[12:15] <Schuenemann> !xfce
[12:15] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:15] <Daisuke-Ido> how i still don't know.
[12:15] <x89x> how do i restore the backup. thats what i am asking stdin
[12:16] <Daisuke-Ido> xfce is nice
[12:16] <jhutchins> Is there a way to query your video ram size?
[12:16] <Schuenemann> xfce isn't KDE?
[12:16] <Daisuke-Ido> no
[12:16] <intelikey> Schuenemann why would that be a problem ?   nv driver supports it without 3d
[12:16] <Schuenemann> ugh
[12:16] <Daisuke-Ido> it's a separate window manager/desktop environment
[12:16] <stdin> x89x: I just tols you "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:16] <Schuenemann> intelikey, because it makes everything slow
[12:16] <x89x> that switches the files ??
[12:17] <Schuenemann> Daisuke-Ido, will it have konversation, firefox, etc the same way?
[12:17] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: That's why I suggest xfce, by default it's much lighter than KDE.
[12:17] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: Yep.
[12:17] <Schuenemann> then what is the benefits of kde?
[12:17] <stdin> x89x: yes, it coppies the 1st file to the 2nd one
[12:17] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:17] <stdin> x89x: cp = copy
[12:17] <intelikey> blackbox/fluxbox
[12:17] <intelikey> twm
[12:18] <Schuenemann> jhutchins, maybe I should try that on a spare partition?
[12:18] <jhutchins> nah.  If you don't like it, just apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[12:19] <x89x> stdin
[12:19] <stdin> jhutchins: that won't remove it, just the metapackage
[12:19] <x89x> see this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30166/
[12:19] <jhutchins> !xfce
[12:19] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:19] <Schuenemann> what happens to kubuntu?
[12:19] <Schuenemann> will I have 2 boot options?
[12:20] <stdin> x89x: yes??
[12:20] <stdin> Schuenemann: yeah, you can choose which to login to
[12:20] <x89x> how do i increase refresh rate
[12:20] <Schuenemann> oh yeah, it's just the desktop environment
[12:21] <stdin> x89x: do you know what refresh rate your monitor uses?
[12:21] <Schuenemann> well, I'll try it
[12:21] <x89x> ya. 1024 X 768 at 85 Ghz max
[12:22] <x89x> 85 Hz lol
[12:22] <stdin> ok
[12:23] <stdin> x89x: run this command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose "medium" at the monitor config, then select that mode
[12:23] <stdin> x89x: make sure to 1st backup your file and select "via" as thedriver
[12:24] <intelikey> stdin dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg always backs it up doesn't it ?
[12:24] <intelikey> i thought it did ....    idk.
[12:25] <x89x> stdin what name do i give it ?
[12:25] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, it's just easier to have it with a simple name
[12:25] <intelikey> k
[12:25] <stdin> intelikey: rather then xorg.conf.100234523424632
[12:25] <stdin> :p
[12:25] <x89x>  ? Via/S3G DeltaChrome IGP ??
[12:25] <x89x> is that OK ?
[12:25] <stdin> x89x: anything you want
[12:26] <x89x> Users of PowerPC machines, and users of any computer with multiple video  ?
[12:26] <x89x>  ? devices, should specify the BusID of the video card in an accepted        ?
[12:26] <x89x>  ? bus-specific format.
[12:26] <x89x> what do i do now ?
[12:26] <stdin> nothing
[12:26] <stdin> press enter
[12:26] <x89x>  PCI:1:0:0 <- Bus identifier
[12:27] <x89x> is that fine /
[12:27] <stdin> yeah
[12:28] <x89x> Amount of memory (kB) to be used by the video card:
[12:28] <x89x> ??
[12:28] <x89x> 65536 KB ?
[12:28] <stdin> just leave it blank if you want
[12:29] <x89x> ok
[12:29] <x89x> Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[12:29] <stdin> no
[12:29] <x89x>  Autodetect keyboard layout?
[12:29] <stdin> no
[12:29] <x89x> ? Keyboard layout:
[12:29] <stdin> leave it
[12:30] <x89x> blank
[12:30] <x89x> or us is written
[12:30] <x89x> "us"
[12:30] <stdin> yeah, leave it as "us"
[12:30] <x89x>  XKB rule set to use:
[12:30] <stdin> blank
[12:30] <stdin> just keep pressing enter
[12:30] <x89x> xorg__ is written
[12:31] <x89x> blank then too ?
[12:31] <stdin> leave it as it is
[12:31] <x89x>    ? Keyboard variant:
[12:31] <x89x> its blank
[12:31] <stdin> leave that blank
[12:32] <x89x>   ? Mouse port:
[12:32] <stdin> just press enter
[12:32] <x89x> there are 5 options !
[12:32] <stdin> yeah, just press enter
[12:32] <x89x> dev/input/mice
[12:32] <x89x> ok
[12:32] <stdin> and again
[12:33] <x89x> X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default:
[12:33] <x89x> default ?
[12:33] <stdin> yeah
[12:33] <Whiz2__> stdin: hiya gotta new problem for ya lol
[12:33] <x89x>  ? Write default Files section to configuration file?                        ?
[12:33] <stdin> yes
[12:33] <Biteyni> cananybody help me with my externalhd?
[12:33] <stdin> Whiz2__: hmm? go on
[12:34] <Biteyni> well it is not loading
[12:34] <x89x> _Identifier for the monitor:  ?
[12:34] <Biteyni> all the data is there
[12:34] <stdin> x89x: yes
[12:34] <Biteyni> but the partition is corrupted
[12:34] <x89x> name for it. anything ?
[12:34] <x89x> Generic Monitor___
[12:35] <stdin> leave it as it is
[12:35] <x89x> Video modes to be used by the X server:
[12:35] <Whiz2__> stefan: i installed feisty on the computer i was tellin i wanted to and got everything working fine by turning on DHCP for router 1, and plugging it into that router... however, once installing all updates, and restarting the computer, my screen resolution went form some really high number (12??x10??) to 640x480, and won't allow me to go any higher
[12:35] <Biteyni> stdin can i pm you my hd error?
[12:35] <jhutchins> Biteyni: run fsck on it.
[12:36] <stdin> Biteyni: paste it if it's not too big, or use pastebin, let everyone see
[12:36] <x89x>  Video modes to be used by the X server: stdin
[12:36] <Biteyni> i tried fsck but it says i need to be in root
[12:36] <stdin> Whiz2__: what graphics card?
[12:36] <Biteyni> or have r/w access
[12:36] <Biteyni> stdin: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
[12:36] <Biteyni>        missing codepage or other error
[12:36] <Biteyni>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:36] <Biteyni>        dmesg | tail  or so
[12:36] <vzduch> x89x: the list w/ resolutions?
[12:37] <stdin> x89x: add the resolutions you want
[12:37] <Whiz2__> stdin: ATI radeon 9550
[12:37] <vzduch> x89x: or more precisely, those your monitor can handle
[12:37] <stdin> Biteyni: check what "dmesg | tail" says, it may give a clue
[12:37] <jhutchins> You know, manually configuring xorg.conf really dosn't seem to be the way to go these days.
[12:37] <jhutchins> !fixres
[12:37] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:37] <Whiz2__> stdin: it worked fine before adding updates
[12:37] <x89x>  stfdin
[12:37] <x89x> Method for selecting the monitor characteristics:
[12:37] <stdin> Whiz2__: and you have the open drivers, or the ATI ones?
[12:38] <vzduch> x89x: what's the choices?
[12:38] <Whiz2__> stdin: i have whatever drivers Linux installed by default
[12:38] <jhutchins> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:38] <x89x>  Simple                        ?
[12:38] <x89x>              ?                      Medium                        ?
[12:38] <x89x>              ?                      Advanced
[12:38] <x89x> vzduch
[12:38] <vzduch> x89x: do you have your monitor frequencies at hand?
[12:38] <ciacon> Hi all. I have the feeling loads had gone wrong with my hardware. My BIOS-Clock has gone Haywire... the calculation is simple (-0.7 seconds / hour) and now I have the feeling that my harddisks are wrecked.... I remember a S.M.A.R.T. on my HDD-Drives.. Can one access theese on Kubuntu (even if only via Terminal)... and if - how?
[12:39] <stdin> Whiz2__: ok, you can change the modes by doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[12:39] <stdin> Whiz2__: then restart X
[12:39] <x89x> 60, 70, 75, 80, 85
[12:39] <vzduch> x89x: that won't help much.. what monitor do you have?
[12:39] <jhutchins> x89x: Is there a particular frequency that you're fond of?  Why not just use what it gives you?
[12:40] <x89x> i just want 75 Hz
[12:40] <vzduch> jhutchins: can be faulty.. what it gave me was too low
[12:40] <stdin> jhutchins: because he gets an out of sync error normally
[12:40] <x89x> 75 Hz low ?
[12:40] <vzduch> x89x: what monitor?
[12:40] <x89x> its a 17 inch monitor
[12:40] <x89x> CRT
[12:41] <vzduch> x89x: manufacturer/model name
[12:41] <jhutchins> ciacon: smartmontools is the package for *buntu, works great.
[12:41] <jhutchins> ciacon: Some of the GUI monitor things can interface with it.
[12:41] <jhutchins> x89x: Why do you want 75hz?
[12:41] <ciacon> jhutchins: but which??
[12:41] <stdin> !info smartmontools | ciacon
[12:41] <ubotu> ciacon: smartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.36-8ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 256 kB, installed size 624 kB
[12:42] <x89x> i dont know the brand !
[12:42] <x89x> jhutchins. thats a good frequency. no flickering
[12:42] <vzduch> x89x: it's gotta be written somewhere.. if it is on the type plate on the back
[12:42] <jhutchins> vzduch: For that matter, the vesa interface is designed to query the monitor and read it's specs.
[12:42] <ciacon> thanks, stdin
[12:43] <ciacon> thanks jhutchins
[12:43] <x89x> its a microtek monitor i guess
[12:43] <Whiz2__> stdin: i'm currently logged onto the desktop... should i log out before restarting x?
[12:43] <vzduch> don't guess, know!
[12:43] <jhutchins> ciacon: Hey, anyone smart enough to use smart in the first place...
[12:43] <nassim> hi
[12:43] <nassim> can u help me plz ?
[12:44] <jhutchins> Whiz2__: Logging out will save your current session.  Just restarting X will restore whatever session was saved last.
[12:44] <x89x> MTK-43F1 model
[12:44] <stdin> Whiz2__: it's probably best to, tho you don't *have* to, I always do tho
[12:44] <x89x> vzduch
[12:44] <nassim> how can i desable x server to install my graphic card ?
[12:44] <vzduch> x89x: ok, wait a sec, I'll look it up
[12:44] <x89x> not there in google :(
[12:45] <SlimeyPete> nassim: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop  , then press ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:45] <nassim> thnx :)
[12:45] <stdin> nassim: use the packages
[12:45] <Whiz2__> also i have another problem... whenever i logoff, restart, or turn of my computer, the entire system stops responding, and doesn't logout. the only way to get it back up it to press the reset button on the front of the computer
[12:45] <vzduch> gotta be a really old bone..
[12:45] <vzduch> x89x: ok, then use Medium
[12:45] <stdin> !nvidia | nassim
[12:45] <ubotu> nassim: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:45] <nassim> nvidia
[12:46] <nassim> ok :)
[12:46] <ciacon> jhutchins: to be honest, I'm way to tired... one of my 2 HDDs has developed a  whistle - and I wanted to know if that effects the health of the disk and if - which... can you helf me out??
[12:46] <x89x> Monitor's best video mode:
[12:46] <x89x> its 1280 x 1024 at 60 hz i think
[12:47] <vzduch> then put it in there
[12:47] <vzduch> you'll probably want to change that to 1024x768 later
[12:47] <x89x> ya
[12:48] <x89x> i prefer 1024 X 768
[12:48] <ciacon>  x89x: you seem to know your way round X... do you know, why, when I start a new session, that I only get it acessible via (ctrl-alt-f9) instead of f8??
[12:48] <x89x> hehe
[12:48] <x89x> i dont know lol
[12:48] <vzduch> ciacon: you're asking the wrong geek :D
[12:48] <x89x> lol
[12:48] <ciacon> ^^
[12:48] <x89x> :)
[12:48] <ciacon> any other geek  @ hand?? xD
[12:48] <x89x> vzduch
[12:49] <x89x> is 1280 X 1024 a 3:4 ratio ?
[12:49] <x89x> 4:3 lol
[12:49] <ciacon> vzduch: show me some love^^
[12:49] <vzduch> x89x: sure, afaik there are no widescreen CRTs
[12:49] <vzduch> ciacon: but if you can access the new session, why do you care? :)
[12:50] <x89x> Write monitor sync ranges to the configuration file?] 
[12:50] <x89x> vzduch
[12:50] <vzduch> of course, else they'll be lost
[12:50] <Whiz2__> stdin: now i have another question... this one a bit easier ;-)
[12:51] <x89x> Desired default color depth in bits:
[12:51] <x89x> 32 bits = 24 ??
[12:51] <stdin> x89x: yes
[12:51] <vzduch> 32 bit is not possible (yet) in Linux
[12:51] <Whiz2__> stdin: can you, or someone else in the room assist me with settings up the repositories that are not added to the list during a default installation?
[12:51] <x89x> done
[12:51] <x89x> now ?
[12:51] <vzduch> restart the X server
[12:51] <stdin> Whiz2__: you're on feisty, so all are enabled by default
[12:52] <x89x> how >
[12:52] <stdin> Whiz2__: or should be :)
[12:52] <Whiz2__> ooooh ok
[12:52] <vzduch> x89x: clean or quick'n'dirty?
[12:52] <stdin> Whiz2__: post the /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin and I'll have a look
[12:52] <Whiz2__> ok
[12:52] <x89x> you say and i'll do it :)
[12:53] <x89x> vzduch
[12:53] <vzduch> ok, do it clean.. switch to a console (e.g. w/ Ctrl + Alt + F1, login w/ your username, then type 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart'
[12:54] <ciacon> vzduch: just out of curiosity.... my problem is the following... I love to play tremulous... I normally would love to run kde, but on my kde things get bloated on the ram... I choose enlightment, as it's light for launching tremulous... I love to listen to music while gaming... so am intestested in the second session... I have no clue how to call a second session of enlightment from the e-desktop, nor the commandline... can you give me some
[12:54] <ciacon> pointers... and even when I manage to get 2 sessions running, I can access the one via "F7" and the nxt via "f9"... that would imply that "f8" is someway disfunct.... and yes - it gives me console outputs (service started & co) instead of an X session....
[12:54] <ciacon> vzduch: this effect is still there after a reboot - btw....
[12:55] <vzduch> ciacon: then it's good for something
[12:55] <vzduch> x89x: you still there?
[12:56] <NickPresta> ahh, the joys of the STL
[12:56] <ciacon> vzduch: brb - but I still hope to here some good news ;-)  (out for some fags... back in 2 minutes)
[12:56] <x89x> vzduch
[12:56] <x89x> thats a wrong directory it says
[12:56] <Schuenemann> !gdm
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <Schuenemann> !kdm
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <x89x> kdm
[12:56] <vzduch> ah, of course
[12:56] <vzduch> you're on Ubuntu..
[12:57] <x89x> ya
[12:57] <x89x> what do i use ?
[12:57] <x89x> gdm
[12:57] <vzduch> then replace kdm with gdm.. if unsure or whatever you can switch back to the X server w/ Ctrl-Alt-F7
[12:57] <Schuenemann> what is gdm and kdm?
[12:58] <x89x> still
[12:58] <x89x> says gdm no directory
[12:58] <Schuenemann> I just installed xubuntu-desktop and it's asking me to choose the default display manager (gdm or kdm)
[12:58] <vzduch> Schuenemann: the display manager, what you see at the graphical login
[12:58] <Schuenemann> vzduch, and which is which?
[12:58] <stdin> Schuenemann: KDM is the K(DE)Display Manager, and GDM is the G(nome)Display manager
[12:58] <Dragnslcr> gdm would be Gnome, kdm would be KDE
[12:58] <vzduch> x89x: then the quick'n'dirty way.. hit Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[12:58] <x89x> ;)
[12:59] <sdfs> It doesn't really make much difference which you choose, you can happily leavs it at what it was
[12:59] <Schuenemann> stdin, but I installed xubuntu-desktop, shouldn't it use a different one?
[12:59] <vzduch> I believe there is an archaic thing called xdm
[12:59] <stdin> Schuenemann: no, well not in *buntu, it's either kdm or gdm (there is xdm, but we generally don't use it)
[12:59] <Schuenemann> when I log out, which one will appear?
[12:59] <stdin> the one that's running now
[01:00] <stdin> KDM probably
[01:00] <Schuenemann> how about xfce?
[01:00] <Whiz2__> stdin: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/30171/
[01:00] <stdin> Schuenemann: you'll have to choose xfce from the login menu
[01:01] <stdin> Whiz2__: yeah, the only thing you don't have is backports (which are disabled by default)
[01:01] <stdin> Whiz2__: you do have main, restricted, universe and multiverse tho
[01:01] <Whiz2__> stdin: what exactly are the backports?
[01:01] <Sloik> Greetings.
[01:02] <vzduch> stdin, Whiz2__: add to that medibuntu for multimedia apps & stuff :)
[01:02] <Sloik> I'm having some trouble with GD for PHP. I've installed PHP using LAMP, and GD using the php5-gd package, but it won't work! What's the problem?
[01:02] <stdin> Whiz2__: basically they ate packages from Gutsy that have been "backported" to feisty,
[01:03] <Sloik> The GD functions seem to go through, but don't return anything.
[01:03] <stdin> Whiz2__: so you may have newer versions, but it may not be as stable. and no security patches
[01:03] <stdin> vzduch: plenty of media apps in main/universe/multiverse
[01:04] <vzduch> stdin: yeah, but some things, e.g. codecs, are only in medibuntu or seveas
[01:04] <Whiz2__> stdin: so basically don't worry about it?
[01:04] <stdin> vzduch: well you could just install the codec package the "official" way
[01:04] <stdin> Whiz2__: yeah, it's fine
[01:04] <Whiz2__> ok
[01:04] <Whiz2__> tyvm
[01:04] <vzduch> define '"official" way' :)
[01:05] <Sloik> Nobody has any experience with GD?
[01:05] <Sloik> !gd
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <stdin> vzduch: by getting the package and installing it with dpkg. so you don't mess up the versions of the ubuntu packages
[01:06] <vzduch> I don't think I messed anything up here by using medibuntu
[01:07] <stdin> vzduch: you won't know until you come to upgrade
[01:08] <vzduch> if you mean dist-upgrade.. what I hear about dist-upgrading, it's not as easy as it used to be anyway
[01:09] <Schuenemann> stdin, just a question: will I have the same applications when I login using xfce?
[01:09] <stdin> Schuenemann: yeah
[01:09] <joaoluiz> tem brasileiros nesse canal?
[01:09] <stdin> Schuenemann: you can use KDE apps on xfce
[01:09] <Schuenemann> !br | joaoluiz
[01:09] <ubotu> joaoluiz: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:09] <Schuenemann> brb
[01:09] <Schuenemann> stdin, but will they be there or I'll have to install them again?
[01:09] <x89x> god damn. it had again got f***** up.
[01:10] <x89x> vzduch
[01:10] <damien__> Hi guys, Sometimes when I save a file, It says something about it being corrupt and opens with Kate, any ideas on how to fix this?
[01:10] <vzduch> huh?  how so?
[01:10] <x89x> i had to change bach to vesa
[01:10] <stdin> Schuenemann: they'll still be there, you aren't installing another OS, just another DE
[01:10] <vzduch> what was the problem?
[01:10] <x89x> the files werent restoring !
[01:10] <x89x> the monitor
[01:10] <x89x> error
[01:11] <x89x> was saying some error in  blue screen
[01:11] <x89x> with the xorg.conf file
[01:11] <x89x> vzduch
[01:12] <x89x> now its showing 76 Hz in the resolution. But still its displaying 60 Hz oonly !!
[01:12] <x89x> vzduch
[01:12] <vzduch> probably your monitor is b0rked
[01:12] <x89x> works fine on XP
[01:12] <x89x> with 1280 X 1024
[01:12] <vzduch> no idea then
[01:12] <x89x> even 1024 X 768 at 75 Hz
[01:13] <x89x> i cant change my refresh ratee !
[01:13] <x89x> no dropdown box
[01:13] <x89x> just drops for resolution
[01:13] <Schuenemann> stdin, xfce is so... different
[01:14] <x89x> can i put beryl on my PC ?
[01:14] <x89x> with these settings ?
[01:14] <stdin> Schuenemann: yeah, it is :p
[01:14] <x89x> stdin
[01:14] <x89x> you know the refresh rate issue ?
[01:14] <vzduch> x89x: most probably not.. Beryl needs 3D acceleration
[01:14] <stdin> x89x: no beryl for you
[01:14] <x89x> my onboard card supports pixel shader 2.0
[01:15] <Schuenemann> stdin, should it run faster than kde?
[01:15] <x89x> and can be upto 256 MB shared
[01:15] <vzduch> Schuenemann: XFce should be up almost instantly
[01:15] <x89x> but the drivers !!
[01:15] <stdin> Schuenemann: it'll be lighter, so some memory intensive apps will run faster, and it should "feel" a bit faster
[01:15] <Dragnslcr> x89x- what video card?
[01:15] <stdin> Dragnslcr: a VIA
[01:15] <x89x> via deltachrome IGP
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> Beats me then
[01:16] <Schuenemann> hmmm firefox doesn't seem any faster
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> No idea what Via has for video abilities
[01:16] <stdin> VIA = no 3D (may work with XGL tho??)
[01:16] <x89x> its jsut taking the vesa drivers only
[01:16] <stdin> Schuenemann: it wouldn't FF is a hog :p
[01:16] <vzduch> for the moment it sounds to me like a similar PITA as ATI
[01:16] <Schuenemann> a hog?
[01:17] <vzduch> x89x: get an Intel or Nvidia gfx card
[01:17] <x89x> hehe. no money
[01:17] <x89x> later
[01:17] <stdin> Schuenemann: it's a bit bloated, it's mostly staticly linked
[01:17] <vzduch> then it seems you have to live w/ that
[01:17] <x89x> what about my sound ??
[01:17] <x89x> i cant hear any sounds
[01:17] <Schuenemann> hmm
[01:17] <tao4mike> is there a way to install kde on ubuntu without any kubuntu stuff as it seems to be very buggy to me, or is kde just buggy.  anyone?  Thanks!
[01:17] <vzduch> checked all mixer settings?
[01:17] <x89x> where are they ?
[01:18] <x89x> sound
[01:18] <vzduch> in the Gnome mixer -> afaik there is a loudspeaker icon somewhere on the right of the top bar in Gnome
[01:18] <stdin> tao4mike: if you want stock KDE, then compile from sources. all the packages are kubuntu ones (and it's not buggy for me)
[01:19] <Schuenemann> let me try beryl...
[01:19] <vzduch> x89x: you might also want to check the settings in alsamixer (console)
[01:19] <tao4mike> well windows seem to be hanging a lot to me and also even though I have trash the option to empty trash is greyed out often...things like that :(
[01:19] <x89x> the mixer isnt playing sound !
[01:20] <vzduch> x89x: and when it comes to such things that are done via the GUI (Gnome, in your case), you might want to /join #ubuntu and ask there
[01:20] <x89x> ok thanks for the help
[01:20] <x89x> will try there
[01:20] <vzduch> x89x: no need to leave this channel though
[01:21] <vzduch> x89x: you can be on multiple channels at once
[01:21] <x89x> ya
[01:21] <x89x> i'm here :)
[01:21] <x89x> so you are programmer ?
[01:22] <vzduch> me? never! :D
[01:22] <vzduch> dayum, I smoke too much.. running out of papers once again :(
[01:22] <vzduch> hrhr
[01:23] <vzduch> good night stdin :)
[01:23] <stdin> night :)
[01:23] <tao4mike> night stdin
[01:23] <vzduch> tao4mike: too late :D
[01:23] <gon> !quicktime
[01:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:26] <gesture> anyone knows a .rm and ,rmvb media player ?
[01:26] <Schuenemann> kaffeine for rmvb
[01:26] <NickPresta> gesture, mplayer should play (almost) everything
[01:26] <esa-petri> how to kill process
[01:26] <gesture> dosn't work
[01:26] <Biovore> gesture: mplayer plays them..
[01:27] <gesture> i'll try now
[01:27] <Sloik> Ugh
[01:27] <Sloik> Nobody knows what my problem with GD not working is?
[01:28] <eagles0513875> Sloik: whats ur problem
[01:28] <Biovore> gesture: you might need to go to www.mplayerhq.hu and download the codec pack and extract it to /usr/lib/win32/
[01:28] <eagles0513875> Bluesgui: lol like the new name
[01:28] <Schuenemann> he's gone
[01:28] <Sloik> I have a LAMP installation, and I just recently installed the php5-gd package, but GD won't work.
[01:28] <Sloik> The functions don't return anything.
[01:28] <ARM9> Did you put them in php.ini?
[01:29] <ARM9> GD*
[01:29] <Sloik> I put the extension, yes.
[01:29] <ARM9> hmm
[01:29] <Sloik> extension=gd.so
[01:29] <Sloik> Before I installed GD it would tell me that the GD commands don't exist. But now that GD's installed, they don't do anything.
[01:29] <Sloik> Even gd_info(); doesn't return anything/
[01:31] <phoenixz> Hi there, I am using kopete, and a friend of mine too. He has a webcam and sends me an invite to see the webcam, I press "accept" and nothing happens.. How can we fix this?
[01:31] <Daisuke-Ido> and i'm back.
[01:31] <Daisuke-Ido> phoenixz: what protocol?
[01:32] <phoenixz> Daisuke-Ido, MSN, if that is what you mean
[01:32] <phoenixz> and kopote to any "real" msn messenger works ok
[01:34] <Daisuke-Ido> okay, normally i'd say check ports and such, but it doesn't appear that will work this time :(
[01:35] <phoenixz> Daisuke-Ido, that might jsut be it..
[01:35] <phoenixz> How do I stop the firewall on kubuntu??
[01:35] <Daisuke-Ido> and Sloik, that's probably more an issue for #php (if it exists)
[01:35] <Sloik> Daisuke-Ido: OK, thanks.
[01:36] <Daisuke-Ido> phoenixz: not particularly sure
[01:37] <Dragnslcr> phoenixz- I don't think there are any iptables rules by default. You can check in Konsole with sudo iptables -L
[01:38] <phoenixz> Dragnslcr, no firewall? sweet.. thats like win 98... (okay, that is a dangerous one.. I am kidding of course:)
[01:39] <x89x> how do i write on an NTFS partition using linux ?
[01:39] <ttan> hi everyone
[01:39] <NickPresta> hi
[01:41] <yurimxpxman> what's a good program to use to record the audio output? (audacity doesn't seem to have that capability in linux..)
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> !ntfs-3g | x89x
[01:46] <ubotu> x89x: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:48] <Dragnslcr> phoenixz- there's a firewall installed by default, but it doesn't block any ports. Ubuntu generally doesn't have hidden programs with security vulnerabilities listening on strange ports
[01:49] <x89x> hey how do i access alsamixer w/o the teminal ??
[01:51] <BluesKaj> yurimxpxman, audacity can record if you set it up to do so
[01:51] <BluesKaj> so can amarok , kaffeine ,mplayer
[01:52] <x89x> how do i get my wifi max work ?? it has a zydas driver zydas1211B
[01:53] <cacus> hi there
[01:53] <KingKenny> aye
[01:53] <cacus> anyone has any idea how to get GStreamer engine working on Feisty for Amarok 1.4.6???
[01:56] <cacus> anybody?
[01:56] <gan|y|med> hi
[01:56] <x89x> how do i get zydas drivers work on my PC ?
[01:57] <BluesKaj> whynot use the xine engine cacus ?
[01:58] <gan|y|med> the thing is: is dri needed when running xgl?
[01:58] <HayaBusa> hello.. which folder , all programs gets installed into. ? ex: i installed Frost wire and need to uninstall it . but i like to remove any folder or file that remains behind if there is any. thanks
[01:58] <cacus> BluesKaj, mmm, i heard that GStreamer worked better with equalizer and such things,.,,
[01:59] <gan|y|med> hm, sorry
[01:59] <gan|y|med> is dri needed when running xgl?
[02:03] <Daisuke-Ido> err
[02:03] <Daisuke-Ido> nvidia or ati?
[02:03] <gan|y|med> ati
[02:03] <gan|y|med> don't laugh :)
[02:03] <Daisuke-Ido> out of my league then
[02:03] <gan|y|med> maybe in general?
[02:03] <Daisuke-Ido> i don't mess with ati stuff :\
[02:03] <Daisuke-Ido> in general i know nada about xgl, i prefer aiglx
[02:04] <gan|y|med> going the easy way, hm :)
[02:04] <gan|y|med> i think, i don't have much of a choice. but i am still not sure about thos
[02:04] <gan|y|med> this
[02:04] <NickPresta> I'm running nvidia and I don't have DRI
[02:05] <Daisuke-Ido> NickPresta: are you using a gl window manager?
[02:05] <Daisuke-Ido> beryl/compiz?
[02:05] <NickPresta> Of course :D. I wouldn't have interrupted otherwise
[02:06] <gan|y|med> ok
[02:06] <Daisuke-Ido> that's odd them
[02:06] <Daisuke-Ido> then*
[02:06] <gan|y|med> there is sth strange about this
[02:06] <gan|y|med> glxinfo says, dri is disabled, no matter if it is in xorg.conf or not
[02:07] <gan|y|med> however, the log says sth. about fglrx loading dri successfully.
[02:07] <gan|y|med> then video playback is choppy and cou usage high
[02:07] <hamadooo> hii
[02:07] <gan|y|med> when i comment the lines about dri and extmod (only tried commenting both of them), playback is fine
[02:08] <hamadooo> guys .. how can i remove a program from the terminal
[02:08] <gan|y|med> and so is cou usage
[02:08] <NickPresta> hamadooo, sudo apt-get remove APPLICATION
[02:08] <NickPresta> hamadooo, or, sudo aptitude remove APPLICATION
[02:08] <x89x> can linux play xvid videos ??
[02:09] <NickPresta> whichever you prefer
[02:09] <hamadooo> i have kismet and i want to remove it from my pc
[02:09] <hamadooo> Package kismet is not installed, so not removed
[02:10] <gan|y|med> depends on the installed codec. principally, yes
[02:10] <NickPresta> hamadooo, then it isnt installed
[02:10] <hamadooo> no i have it .. but i didn't download it as a package
[02:10] <hamadooo> i downloaded from the site
[02:10] <NickPresta> hamadooo, oh. you compiled it from source?
[02:10] <hamadooo> yes :)
[02:11] <gan|y|med> ohoh
[02:11] <NickPresta> navigate to the directory where you compiled from source
[02:11] <NickPresta> and then issue: make uninstall
[02:12] <hamadooo> from the terminal ??
[02:12] <NickPresta> yeah
[02:12] <NickPresta> if that doesn't work then there isnt an uninstall rule and you're SoL, AFAIK
[02:12] <hamadooo> im new in lunix i don't know nything in the terminal :)
[02:12] <NickPresta> then how did you manage to compile from source? >_>
[02:12] <hamadooo> from google
[02:12] <hamadooo> :P
[02:12] <NickPresta> lol okay
[02:12] <hamadooo> reading and doing
[02:12] <hamadooo> lol
[02:13] <Daisuke-Ido> hamadooo: for future reference, there's not a whole lot that isn't available in the repositories :D
[02:13] <hamadooo> huh
[02:13] <NickPresta> hamadooo, try this (open a terminal): cd directory/where/the/source/is (replacing this with the directory name/path). then, if you're in there, type: ls (to see directory contents). If you're in the correct directory, type: make uninstall (and hope for the best)
[02:14] <hamadooo> i think i removed it :P
[02:15] <hamadooo> i can't find it when i search
[02:15] <NickPresta> for future reference, always search the repositories first.
[02:15] <hamadooo> ok thanxx :)
[02:15] <hamadooo> now about my wireless modem
[02:15] <NickPresta> and if you can't find it, do a google search like this: "APPLICATION ubuntu" and you will get results (usually with packages or a way to install the package)
[02:15] <Schuenemann> hamadooo, why did you compile it?
[02:16] <hamadooo> cuz someone told me
[02:16] <hamadooo> the one in ubuntu is old
[02:16] <hamadooo> and will not work with your modem
[02:16] <hamadooo> so i installed kismet from the site
[02:16] <hamadooo> and still not working
[02:18] <azzurro> hello
[02:18] <ARM9> Hey
[02:18] <azzurro> does anyone knows why the suspend to ram works so slow with feisty
[02:19] <hamadooo> now how can i search for a program in terminal
[02:20] <azzurro> resume seems ok but untill it gets suspend it takes almost 25 sec.s
[02:20] <azzurro> is this normal?
[02:20] <Daisuke-Ido> hamadooo: apt-cache search *title*
[02:21] <hamadooo> ok thanx .. but is there any site helps me to learn the terminal commands
[02:21] <faires> I'm having a problem with Adept. He says that my database should be locked, because other program is using it. But I've just logged in...
[02:22] <hamadooo> E: Regex compilation error
[02:22] <Daisuke-Ido> don't use the *s
[02:22] <Daisuke-Ido> like...  apt-cache search kismet
[02:22] <faires> It started to happen when I tried gksudo wineconfig
[02:22] <hamadooo> ok
[02:22] <faires> Somebody knows how can I unlock it?
[02:23] <Daisuke-Ido> !apt lock
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <azzurro> any help on suspend??
[02:23] <Daisuke-Ido> !apt
[02:23] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:23] <faires> Oh, now I got the ! thing... :)
[02:23] <faires> Thanks a lot... :)
[02:24] <faires> !sudo
[02:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:25] <hamadooo> kismet - Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool
[02:25] <hamadooo> at76c503a-source - at76c503a driver source
[02:25] <hamadooo> still in my pc ?????
[02:26] <Daisuke-Ido> no
[02:26] <Schuenemann> !apt fix
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <hamadooo> why it tells me that????
[02:26] <Daisuke-Ido> that's just what packages are *available* to be installed matching that string
[02:27] <hamadooo> oh ok :)
[02:27] <hamadooo> i want to learn the terminal commands .. is there any site or something ??
[02:28] <Schuenemann> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[02:28] <Schuenemann> http://linuxbasics.org/
[02:29] <hamadooo> thanxx so much
[02:30] <faires> !adept
[02:30] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:31] <hamadooo> now about my modem .. i have an antel wireless ipw3945 .. and it workd fine .. but i think i have the old driver for it so that i can't use kismet .... can you tell me how to update the driver
[02:32] <rafa> hi everybody
[02:36] <gesture> hey , i have a problem with the instalation of "flash player" into mozilla firefox browser
[02:36] <gesture> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, SeaMonkey,
[02:36] <gesture> or Firefox browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):
[02:37] <gesture> entering the patch and i get WARNING: Please enter a valid installation path.
[02:37] <gesture> path*
[02:38] <NightBird> well... what path are you entering?
[02:38] <mo0osah> I need to execute certain commands in the terminal, how do i make them execute everytime kde starts?
[02:38] <gesture> ./usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[02:39] <NightBird> gesture: with or without the .?
[02:39] <gesture> without
[02:39] <gesture> just got the . to be able to write the path here
[02:40] <NightBird> ah
[02:40] <NightBird> (ctrl+enter may let you by-pass that)
[02:40] <gesture> ye
[02:40] <gesture> but easyer to hit just one key :P
[02:41] <NightBird> so uh... what's the reason to not use the package in adept?
[02:41] <gesture> just wanted to do it faster
[02:41] <gesture> bored to enter / exit / enter / exit adept :P
[02:41] <wers> guys.. quick question:synce-kde works in edgy but not in feisty, do you think that if I uninstall kubuntu and just have kde-core installed, synce-kde will work for me?
[02:41] <NightBird> wow...
[02:41] <gesture> and wanted to know a way to do it like this
[02:41] <NightBird> so instead you're doing it the hard way
[02:41] <gesture> ye
[02:42] <gesture> :P
[02:42] <NightBird> well, once you're done messing around, the package name is swf-player :P
[02:42] <gesture> :))
[02:42] <gesture> i'm not gonna give up :P
[02:43] <NightBird> good luck then
[02:43] <gesture> too soon :P
[02:43] <gesture> i'll be back in 10+ mins if i don't make it
[02:45] <m4x> fr?
[02:46] <NightBird> !french
[02:46] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:46] <phoenixz> Does Kubuntu have a stable version of kmail? I find it to be VERY instable.. Ive had quite a few crashes so far, but I can live with that.. What I cant live with is that I have no @(#*$ clue what the hell that program is doing.. I receive 50 mails... suddenly, they are gone.. where? I dont know, they are not in trash, or junk.. nothing..  Then suddenly, a mail reappears.. and is gone again.. its as if the program is toying with the mails all the time
[02:47] <phoenixz> And many times when I select the inbox, then I get a blue image with "Retrieving messages".. and it just stays there.. all other boxes work, but the inbox just keeps being stuck with that
[02:49] <phoenixz> Its so unworkable that I have to return to thunderbird, which I really dont like either.. :)
[02:49] <gesture> done it :P
[02:52] <hamadooo> can someone help me with installin kismet in ubuntu
[02:58] <banlieue> does anyone know how to change the knotes tray icon?
[02:58] <skarface> how do I turn off the bouncing icons when programs are loading?
[03:01] <Dragnslcr> skarface- not sure if there's a global setting, but for specific programs, you can edit the KMenu item and disable launch feedback
[03:01] <skarface> Dragnslcr: ok thanks
[03:03] <x89x> can anyone help me ?
[03:09] <Daisuke-Ido> what should the fstab line look like for my swap space?
[03:10] <Daisuke-Ido> kde's disk and filesystem manager mangled my fstab :(
[03:11] <NickPresta> Daisuke-Ido, mine looks like: UUID=88a7f4fb-cf29-431c-94d9-77c286c6c7a0 none swap sw 0 0
[03:11] <mahdi> same as what mine looks like, except different ID
[03:12] <Daisuke-Ido> thank you
[03:13] <Daisuke-Ido> and now cds aren't mounting automatically :\
[03:15] <teddybear> www.firefox.com
[03:16] <NickPresta> ?
[03:25] <hamadooo> where can i find this driver ipw3945-1.1.3.tgz for ubuntu plz
[03:37] <poty> alguien me puede ayudar con la seleccion del SO en el arranque, soy nuevo en linux
[03:37] <mneptok> !es > poty
[03:45] <juan> x89x: was this morning's information useful
[04:02] <livecd_> Hey, can anyone help me reinstall GRUB? :)
[04:05] <BluesKaj> did you just reinstall windows ?
[04:07] <livecd_> zea
[04:07] <livecd_> yea
[04:07] <livecd_> :p
[04:07] <BluesKaj> !grub | livecd
[04:07] <ubotu> livecd: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:08] <juan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[04:09] <livecd_> seems like Im not able to mount my floppy.. at least not with permissions
[04:11] <BluesKaj> livecd , this site is also a good one  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:20] <ShockValue> is there a linux utility similar to DVDDecrypter?  one that just allows you to select the main movie and rip it to 1 file on your hard drive? (lossless, dont care about re-compression)
[04:21] <BluesKaj> ShockValue, k9copy
[04:21] <ShockValue> k, ill check that out, thanks
[04:22] <poty> can anyone help me with the beryl configuration ?
[04:25] <livecd_> hdb2 is (hd1,1) ?
[04:26] <BluesKaj> !beryl | poty
[04:26] <ubotu> poty: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:35] <livecd_> Bah, Ive NO idea what to type in (hdx,x) WinXP on hda1, Kubuntu on hdb2 - ..anyone? :(
[04:36] <scopecreep> if you mean in grub type (hd and hit tab for autocomplete options
[04:36] <scopecreep> (hd0,0) would be my guess for your first primary drive
[04:37] <BluesKaj> livecd_, check in the konsole: sudo fdisk -l
[04:38] <Eusebus> hi
[04:39] <Eusebus> I'm searching for somabody who could help me about my wifi card (ipw2100)
[04:39] <Eusebus> e*
[04:39] <raylu> Eusebus, is there a driver for it?
[04:40] <Eusebus> well, yes
[04:40] <Eusebus> but it's not a problem of driver I think
[04:40] <raylu> so it shows up in iwconfig?
[04:41] <Eusebus> as I'm using it right now :o)
[04:41] <K-Ryan> !wifi
[04:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:41] <raylu> oh... :P
[04:41] <raylu> then what's the problem
[04:41] <K-Ryan> The help stuff for wifi helped me out, I'd try your luck there.
[04:42] <Eusebus> the problem is that it can work perfectly, but sometimes I can't reconnect
[04:42] <raylu> o.0, i sorta have this problem too
[04:42] <Eusebus> maybe a problem of distance from the router
[04:42] <raylu> i have to use "sudo dhclient wlan0" to connect
[04:42] <Eusebus> but
[04:43] <Eusebus> when I use Windows, I can connect from one location, but I can't with linux
[04:43] <Eusebus> from the same location
[04:43] <livecd_> http://rafb.net/p/RtNWR256.html <-- seems fdisk -l
[04:43] <Eusebus> and I don't see why...
[04:43] <ShockValue> hrm.. trying to rip a dvd with vobcopy, bit its reaaalllyyy slow..  my dvd drive has hdparm settigns set on it OK (ata100).
[04:43] <ShockValue> what am i missin?
[04:43] <livecd_> 0,0 is wrong.. :(
[04:44] <Eusebus> that's quite irritating
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> ShockValue: DVD ripping takes a while, since it has to transcode as well
[04:45] <Eusebus> Can a driver have influence on the range of my card?
[04:45] <Eusebus> +an
[04:45] <raylu> sorta...
[04:45] <raylu> you may want to try ndiswrapper
[04:45] <raylu> or an alternate driver
[04:45] <ShockValue> hitmanWilly: vob just rips the video, there's no transcoding.  and by slow, i mean, 1MB per minute, meaning it would take me 20 hours to rip 1 dvd
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> ShockValue: oh, missed the vobcopy part :)
[04:46] <BluesKaj> ShockValue, why not k9copy ?
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> ShockValue: you may try with dvd:rip
[04:46] <ShockValue> BluesKaj: i cant seem to get that to give me a VOB,
[04:47] <ShockValue> BluesKaj: unless im just blind and or dumb :)
[04:47] <BluesKaj> was working at all ?
[04:47] <ShockValue> lemme go try again
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> ShockValue: is file size an issue? if not, you can just dd the dvd to an iso file and try ripping vobs from that
[04:48] <raylu> http://pastecode.org/49
[04:48] <ShockValue> hitmanWilly: size is not an issue
[04:48] <Eusebus> raylu, taht could be a solution, but I think that if I use ndiswrapper, I'll have to remove my current driver, and it involves two things
[04:48] <Eusebus> removing my current driver
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> ShockValue: just dd the whole dvd then :)
[04:49] <raylu> nmap shows:
[04:49] <raylu> 22/tcp   open  ssh
[04:49] <raylu> 3306/tcp open  mysql
[04:49] <Eusebus> and if it doesn't work, re-installing my driver (and I don't know really how to re-install it well)
[04:50] <ShockValue> well, temporary size isnt an issue, i dont want to store the the whole ISO, just the main title
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> ShockValue: ok, then try what I said earlier, and then just delete the iso afterwards
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> ShockValue: or just use dvd:rip and skip the transcode part
[04:51] <ShockValue> isnt dvd:rip an icky gtk thing? :)
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> ShockValue: yes, its gtk
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> ShockValue: but it works really well :)
[04:52] <Eusebus> and I also have another question, about anjuta (if someone could help me)
[04:53] <BluesKaj> hitmanWilly, what is dd?
[04:53] <ShockValue> BluesKaj: k9 worked for about 2 minutes (and says it will take 19 hours to complete) then errors out saying it cant open dvdauthor
[04:53] <BluesKaj> wow
[04:53] <ShockValue> so both programs are being s l o w
[04:54] <ShockValue> hrm, sec, let me try 1 more thing
[04:54] <Eusebus> my problem is about linking
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj: a cmd line tool, stands for data dump, does a bit for bit transfer
[04:54] <Eusebus> :/
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj: man dd for more info :)
[04:55] <ShockValue> tried dvd-> a different physical drive.. still slow as molassus
[04:57] <BluesKaj> hitmanWilly, ok thx ...now i unnerstand ...I think :)
[04:58] <TheCreationist> Is there any way to resize my partitions to give Windows more space?  It is on the first partition and I want to move space from my 4th partition (/home) to Windows... is this possible without repartitioning completely and losing all data?
[04:59] <BluesKaj> well  folks , it's getting towards sacktime for me ... take care
[04:59] <Eusebus> we got a winner \o/
[05:01] <Eusebus> well TheCreationist, I tried once
[05:02] <ShockValue> well its obviously not the application software thats messing up.. dvd::rip is slow as hell too
[05:02] <Eusebus> I still remember the pain I felt when I tried
[05:04] <TheCreationist> Eusebus: Yeah, was just hoping I could avoid using 6 CDs to backup my data first.
[05:04] <Eusebus> I lost 48 Go of data
[05:04] <Eusebus> so I have one advice
[05:05] <Eusebus> forget this idea ! (of maybe someone succeeded in, bit personaly I won't trust him lol)
[05:05] <Eusebus> but*
[05:07] <raylu> !lamp
[05:07] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:08] <Eusebus> You can try, TheCreationist , but I hope you know a very efficient pray
[05:08] <Eusebus> :o)
[05:09] <Eusebus> TheCreationist, whatever you will do with your partitions, always backup your data...
[05:15] <Zolar> If I install kubunut 6.06 lts, is it possible to update to 7.04?
[05:15] <dotz> hi i getting error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7
[05:15] <daddy> hey! I have just installed my linux  . . . where am i?
[05:16] <dotz> which package should i download?
[05:16] <daddy> ubuntu feisty fawn
[05:16] <dr_willis> daddy,  this is an IRC channel.
[05:16] <Eusebus> Zolar, you'll have to update to 6.10 first
[05:16] <Zolar> how do you do that?
[05:16] <Eusebus> (Edgy)
[05:16] <dr_willis> daddy,  you may want to read the ubuntu starter guide. Links are prob erly on the desktop and in the browser menus/bookmarks
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> !find libcrypto
[05:17] <ubotu> Found: libcrypto++-dev, libcrypto++-doc, libcrypto++-utils, libcrypto++5.2c2a, libcryptokit-ocaml (and 1 others)
[05:17] <Eusebus> Zolar, there are somes tutos on internet, but I remember that you have to change your sources.list first (under dapper)
[05:18] <Eusebus> then sudo apt-get update
[05:18] <Eusebus> and then, sudo pat-get dist-upgrade
[05:18] <dotz> which one is libcrypto.so.0.9.7 ?
[05:18] <Eusebus> apt*
[05:18] <Zolar> pat-get I am not familar with that
[05:18] <Eusebus> apt-get
[05:18] <gesture> apt-get
[05:18] <Eusebus> sorry
[05:19] <Zolar> oh apt-get I know that one. very well
[05:19] <gesture> just go for "sudo apt-get update"
[05:19] <gesture> and enjoy
[05:19] <Eusebus> but have you already installed 6.06 ?
[05:19] <Zolar> yes.
[05:20] <gesture> you need to update 6.10 from what i know
[05:20] <gesture> correct me if i'm wrong
[05:20] <TheCreationist> Zolar: Just so you know, you can't upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04 directly.  You will need to upgrade to 6.10 first, then you can update to 7.04 after that.
[05:20] <Eusebus> yeah, as I explained ;)
[05:20] <TheCreationist> Eusebus: But I did it more articulately ;)
[05:20] <Eusebus> ;) yes
[05:21] <Zolar> can I still down load 6.10?
[05:21] <Eusebus> if ou have already installed 6.06, it's not a download you need
[05:22] <Eusebus> you*
[05:22] <Eusebus> you need to modify the file "sources.list" in /etc/apt/
[05:22] <Eusebus> replacing every "dapper" by "edgy"
[05:23] <gesture> patience is the perfect word :)
[05:23] <TheCreationist> Eusebus: He shouldn't need to do that if he does the dist-upgrade, I don't think.
[05:23] <TheCreationist> Oh wait, 6.06 is an LTS... yeah, he probably will.
[05:23] <Eusebus> I don(t know if the dist-upgrade works between dapper and edgy
[05:24] <Eusebus> then, type "sudo apt-get update"
[05:24] <Eusebus> and sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:25] <Eusebus> after that, you will be under edgy
[05:25] <Eusebus> and then, in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and follow the instructions
[05:25] <jhutchins> !update
[05:25] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[05:26] <jhutchins> (Also covers earlier upgrades.)
[05:27] <dsmith> is updating from 6.10 to 7.04 safe?
[05:27] <Eusebus> personally I had some problems after
[05:27] <TheCreationist> dsmith: As safe as riding a motorcycle without a helmet, yes . :)
[05:27] <dsmith> lol
[05:27] <dsmith> what I thought
[05:28] <Zolar> 6.10 is no longer available
[05:28] <TheCreationist> I had a ton of problems when I did it... but most of them are worked out.  A couple of major issues still around, but I'm living with them since no one else knows how to fix them.
[05:28] <Eusebus> I decided to format my / and install Feisty with the live cd
[05:28] <Eusebus> and now it works perfectly
[05:29] <TheCreationist> Eusebus: Well, even trying clean installs I had issues.
[05:29] <dsmith> complete reformat and install is what I have been doing
[05:29] <TheCreationist> Eusebus: Most annoying right now is that Feisty only recognizes my cd burner if I have a CD in it during boot lol
[05:29] <Eusebus> really? Oo
[05:29] <dsmith> O.o
[05:29] <Eusebus> lool
[05:29] <Eusebus> incredible
[05:29] <Eusebus> config problem, maybe
[05:29] <dsmith> must be bill gates fault
[05:30] <Zolar> I tried to install 7.04 and I received and error every time
[05:30] <ardchoille> hahahaha
[05:30] <Eusebus> I'm using a laptop :d
[05:30] <ardchoille> dsmith: lol
[05:30] <Zolar> So I tried 6.06 and no problems
[05:30] <dsmith> dvd region codes and bil warez, when will it end
[05:30] <dsmith> maybe your 'buntu CD is DRM'd
[05:30] <dsmith> lol
[05:30] <TheCreationist> Zolar: Took me forever to install Feisty on my girlfriend's computer... read errors
[05:30] <ardchoille> lol
[05:31] <dsmith> i installed a dual bot win/fiesty on a dell GX260 today
[05:31] <dsmith> took forever to get started
[05:31] <Zolar> mine never gets to the demo screen.
[05:31] <dsmith> mine took 5 mins to get therer or maybe it was more like 10
[05:31] <Zolar> throughs a (ASH) error
[05:32] <ardchoille> One of the advantages of building your own computers is you can pick and choose which hardware you know works with the OS you plan to install.
[05:32] <Zolar> I get dumped to a command line
[05:32] <Eusebus> I have an Inspiron 9200 with dual boot (and a windows which only serves as decoration)
[05:32] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  and you get to pull your hair out when somthing dont work also. :)
[05:32] <dsmith> i've been using the dell c521's
[05:32] <dsmith> acer 4000s are nice to
[05:32] <ardchoille> dr_willis: Never had that happen
[05:33] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  consider yourself lucky
[05:33] <dr_willis> DOA parts can be such a pain.
[05:33] <ardchoille> well, I choose hardware I know works
[05:33] <dr_willis> and if its dead.... well... its dead
[05:33] <dr_willis> :)
[05:33] <ardchoille> Oh, well, good point
[05:34] <dr_willis> Unless ya got a bank of spare parts to swap out to trouble shoot :)
[05:34] <ardchoille> True
[05:34] <dr_willis> Sucks when your ONLY pci-e video card is dead. :)
[05:34] <Eusebus> my friend is pulling his hair out as he's trying to make some of his special buttons recognized by linux
[05:34] <Zolar> the error is : /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turn off
[05:34] <ardchoille> eewwww
[05:34] <dr_willis> About to get a new box one of these days.. heh.
[05:34] <Eusebus> he has an ACER 5610
[05:34] <dr_willis> special keyboard buttons.. Fah! who needs them. :)
[05:34] <dsmith> lol
[05:35] <dr_willis> Only thin gi use my special mouse buttons for is Grenades and Medpacs in the Quake games.
[05:35] <Eusebus> (Notice that I'm in France and it's 5h34 a.m. :/)
[05:36] <dr_willis> Brother in law is from france. :)
[05:36] <dsmith> whats the best way to install the xubuntu desktop on kubuntu so it starts?
[05:36] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:36] <dsmith> I know that
[05:36] <dr_willis> so the problem is?
[05:36] <dsmith> but for somereason It wont stick
[05:37] <dr_willis> select xubuntu desktop from the session manager?
[05:37] <dsmith> after I logoff then back, it reverts back to the login screen
[05:37] <dsmith> yep
[05:37] <dsmith> duh...
[05:37] <dsmith> lol
[05:37] <dr_willis> log off then back?
[05:37] <ardchoille> dsmith: You have to choose it as default
[05:37] <dsmith> I know all that already
[05:37] <dsmith> I see the desktop and then it goes black
[05:37] <dsmith> then reverts to the login screen again
[05:37] <dr_willis>  so you mean to say its CRASHING...
[05:38] <Eusebus> but why do you want xcfe? kde is perfect 8)
[05:38] <ardchoille> Something wrong with the session then.
[05:38] <dsmith> well yea sorta
[05:38] <dsmith> familarization thats why
[05:38] <dr_willis> do you have some old xfce settings in your home dir?
[05:38] <Eusebus> ok :)
[05:38] <ardchoille> dsmith: Anyting interesting in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[05:38] <dsmith> let me look
[05:38] <dsmith> one sec
[05:39] <dsmith> hmmmm whole mess of stuff
[05:40] <ardchoille> dsmith: as dr_willis mentioned, it sounds like your xfce session is crashing
[05:40] <dsmith> well I am installing both xfce and gnome
[05:49] <jhutchins> One can simply start X.  Without an .xinitrc you won't be able to run anything, but you can tell if basic X works.
[05:49] <dr_willis> he could also  make a new user. and see if the problem affects the new user.
[05:49] <jhutchins> If that works, you can use startx <desktop> to determine if it's the desktop or the DM.
[05:49] <jhutchins> X, Ctrl-Alt-F1 to start an app, see if it works at the most basic level.
[05:49] <jhutchins> rename .xfce perhaps?
[05:49] <Zolar> is there any way to recover from the install from live cd error of /bin/sh can't access tty; jobs control truned off
[05:49] <ardchoille> That's be my first choice
[05:49] <jhutchins> It sounds very much like it could be the dm not initializing the session completely.
[05:49] <jhutchins> Zolar: Reboot.
[05:49] <Eusebus> +1
[05:49] <Zolar> I did with no luck
[05:49] <jhutchins> Zolar: Where does this error occur?
[05:49] <dr_willis> Zolar,  ive seen that error once befor.. not sure why it happens..
[05:49] <Zolar> as soon as you select the top menu item on the init menu
[05:49] <Zolar> dr_willis: is there a fix for it?
[05:49] <dr_willis> Zolar,  no idea.. i tried a different live cd and it worked...
[05:49] <dr_willis> go figure.
[05:49] <jhutchins> Zolar: How much ram do you have?
[05:49] <Zolar> 1 gig
[05:49] <dr_willis> one live cd dident work on one machine.. bu tit worked on the others..
[05:49] <dr_willis> other live cd worked on all of them. (it was a xubuntu live cd)
[05:49] <jhutchins> Zolar: Did you verify the md5sum of the CD?
[05:49] <Zolar> Yes
[05:50] <Zolar> I even down loaded to three different sites and to my suprise it failed on all of them.
[05:50] <Zolar> but the 6.06 lts work find
[05:50] <Zolar> fine
[05:51] <Zolar> what changed in 7.04
[05:51] <Zolar> in the installer that is
[05:51] <dr_willis> I noticed that mine had issues when i had some hard drives on my pci ide conroller card.
[05:51] <dr_willis> could be some bit of hardwre is confusing things
[05:52] <jhutchins> Zolar: Have you tried the alt CD?
[05:52] <Zolar> so my choice is to install 6.06 and then upgrade.
[05:54] (jhutchins/#kubuntu) Zolar: You might collect a hardware list and post a bugreport though.
[05:54] (jhutchins/#kubuntu) Isn't there some nice tool that runs through all your hardware inventory and packages a neat little bugreport for you?
[05:55] <Zolar> I will down load a alt install and try that.
[05:56] <jhutchins> Good luck!
[05:56] <dsmith> nope xfce will not load
[05:57] <dsmith> it crashes
[05:57] <dsmith> :(
[05:57] <dsmith> gnome works fine
[05:57] <dsmith> oh well
[05:58] <dr_willis> odd.. i got all the desktops installed..
[05:58] <dsmith> see w/ edgy I was able to do that
[05:58] <dsmith> gnome works nicely
[05:59] <dsmith> i just removed ubuntu and xubuntu desktops
[05:59] <dsmith> then restarted, just to be sure
[05:59] <dsmith> then reinstalled xunbunt
[05:59] <dsmith> logged off, restarted X and choose xfce
[06:00] <gesture> a question , where do i set up the background at the beryl cube desktops ?
[06:02] <raylu> sky-something
[06:02] <raylu> skydome
[06:02] <gesture> ty
[06:02] <raylu> F5D8053 N <~~ anyone know anything about configuring this wireless card?
[06:06] <Eusebus> raylu, no sorry
[06:13] <klobster> xine is crashing after last kde update?
[06:14] <klobster> nm, I just read it's unsupported
[06:14] <intelikey> well i just made my very first lan  one linux and one xp box crossover eth cable
[06:15] <ChimeraHitman> Does anyone know about PXE booting?
[06:15] <intelikey> all i was able to do was ping 192.168.0.1 from 192.168.0.7     but hey it's a start...
[06:20] <intelikey> what i don't get is why  ifup eth0     doesn't work and  ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.0.7 up    does ?
[06:23] <alakhia> is there an equivalent of: rpm -ql "package_name" for apt?
[06:23] <intelikey> apt-cache search/show package
[06:24] <alakhia> intelikey: How do i get the list of files?
[06:25] <Carnage\> dpkg -L <package>
[06:25] <alakhia> cool! Thanks Carnage\
[06:26] <gesture> kinda bugged beryl on kubuntu :/
[06:26] <gesture> and not that flexible
[06:27] <intelikey> alakhia oh list of files in the package ?     dpkg -L packge
[06:27] <Eusebus> gesture, you have problems with beryl?
[06:28] <gesture> kinda
[06:28] <alakhia> intelikey: Thanks! Yeah, that does what I wanted! :)
[06:28] <gesture> installed it , worked till interface restart
[06:28] <gesture> after that
[06:28] <gesture> bye bye , no more graphical interface
[06:28] <gesture> text mode ftw
[06:28] <Eusebus> Oo
[06:28] <gesture> tell me about it
[06:28] <gesture> it's the 3rd time that happened
[06:29] <Eusebus> well I'm not an expert (and French, so excuse my poor English)
[06:29] <intelikey> alakhia note that parent dirs are listed too    so don't do something silly like   rm -r the list to get rid of a pckage    that will totally hose the system
[06:29] <Eusebus> but
[06:30] <Eusebus> do you restart X or do you try to launch it with "beryl" command?
[06:30] <gesture> i'm not that expert eather , but i read as much as i can ; how to's and other
[06:30] <gesture> ofc i do
[06:30] <Eusebus> ofc?
[06:30] <gesture> ofcourse
[06:31] <intelikey> ofcourse ?
[06:31] <intelikey> off course ?
[06:31] <Eusebus> thanks, I'm not very at ease with English abreviations
[06:31] <Eusebus> well uh
[06:32] <gesture> well i not that good eather
[06:32] <intelikey> imo abv's r used 2 much
[06:32] <gesture> i'm used to them because i played world of warcraft like 1 year and most people used them
[06:32] <intelikey> or is that uzd ?
[06:32] <Eusebus> so which kind of graphical card do you have?
[06:33] <gesture> ati
[06:33] <Eusebus> which driver?
[06:33] <Eusebus> (and chick model of card)
[06:33] <Eusebus> which*
[06:34] <gesture> the one from ati.com ( x300 )
[06:34] <alakhia> intelikey: actually, I'm trying to figure out why my audio plugin doesn't work
[06:34] <Eusebus> ah ok...
[06:34] <gesture> ATI Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver 8.38.6
[06:35] <alakhia> intelikey: wanted to see if I had all the files from the package: tap-plugins
[06:35] <Eusebus> well as you have maybe already read, there are two ways of installing properly beryl
[06:35] <Eusebus> free driver + aixgl
[06:35] <gesture> i know
[06:35] <gesture> tried that one 2
[06:36] <Eusebus> or proprietary driver + xgl
[06:36] <Eusebus> the second didn't work with me
[06:36] <gesture> both worked
[06:36] <Eusebus> now I'm using "ati" driver and aixgl
[06:36] <Eusebus> ok
[06:36] <Eusebus> so the problem is not here :/
[06:36] <gesture> ye :(
[06:37] <intelikey> anyone know what is required to make xp so ssh ?   is there an ssh-server for xp ?
[06:37] <intelikey> err let me ask in the other channel
[06:37] <intelikey> :)
[06:37] <Eusebus> gesture, when you type "beryl", what does your terminal eturn?
[06:37] <Eusebus> +r
[06:38] <gesture> made a backup and uninstalled beryl atm
[06:38] <gesture> i'll get it working again soon
[06:38] <Eusebus> ok
[06:38] <Eusebus> :)
[06:38] <gesture> it works perfect till i restart the interface
[06:39] <gesture> after interface restart
[06:39] <gesture> no more graphical mode :(
[06:39] <gesture> i can only run in text mode till i backup the xorg.conf
[06:39] <gesture> and i belive i have some problems with the ati driver 2
[06:40] <gesture> if i'm not mistakeing
[06:41] <Eusebus> good luck ;)
[06:41] <thunderbolt> Hmmm, anyone know of a kopete plugin or feature to show conversation context, like the Pidgin.im plugin?
[06:42] <intelikey> from ##windows  <pinpoint> apple.com hates firefox/quicktime combo <pinpoint> 3 times in a row i cant use the back button without a crash
[06:42] <thunderbolt> Basically, I want to display the tail of the previous conversation log in the IM when a new conversation is started.
[06:43] <thunderbolt> "Gosh, I wonder what's under this plugin menu item..."
[06:43] <raylu> how do I specify what device apache should use?
[06:44] <raylu> (when it binds)
[06:44] <w0rm> hacksign@HackSignLapTop:~$ su
[06:44] <w0rm> Password:
[06:44] <w0rm> root@HackSignLapTop:/home/hacksign# /etc/init.d/firestarter start
[06:44] <w0rm>  * Starting the Firestarter firewall...                                  [fail] 
[06:44] <w0rm> root@HackSignLapTop:/home/hacksign# /etc/init.d/firestarter restart
[06:44] <w0rm>  * Stopping the Firestarter firewall...                                  [ OK ] 
[06:44] <w0rm>  * Starting the Firestarter firewall...                                  [fail] 
[06:45] <w0rm> who can tell me y ?
[06:45] <ryan__> hey
[06:48] <intelikey> heh people seem to often mention prices of softwarez in ##windows channel    like it's normal to pay for software    hehhe
[06:49] <mo0osah> lol
[06:49] <mo0osah> intelikey: you idle there?
[06:49] <CPrgmSwR2> Is there work being done to improve the setup of kubuntu so it works out of the box with no problems?
[06:49] <intelikey> mo0osah no i had a question
[06:50] <intelikey> CPrgmSwR2 they thought it already did
[06:50] <mo0osah> CPrgmSwR2: it usually does work out of the box
[06:50] <intelikey> see ^
[06:50] <intelikey> :)
[06:50] <mo0osah> a few people have graphics issues though
[06:50] <thunderbolt> Pay...for software?
[06:50] <intelikey> thunderbolt that's what i said
 paying for software....   </blinks>   ;/
[06:51] <raylu> how do I specify what device apache should use (when it binds)?
[06:51] <CPrgmSwR2> I read an article where someone had all sorts of problems with kubuntu
[06:51] <mo0osah> Which version of Kubuntu?
[06:51] <raylu> CPrgmSwR2, there's no universal out-of-the-box solution
[06:51] <raylu> because of all the different hardware configurations
[06:51] <raylu> it's simply not possible
[06:51] <intelikey> and indeed can't be one.
[06:52] <intelikey> yeah what raylu said
[06:52] <mo0osah> actually ubuntu worked better "out of the box" on my system than windows.... for windows i need to install drivers for pretty much everything
[06:52] <CPrgmSwR2> I see
[06:52] <raylu> that's what recovery cds are for :P
[06:52] <mo0osah> what kind of system do you own?
[06:53] <intelikey> if nobody made any new hardware for 2 years then we could expect "out of box" perfection.... care to wager on whether or not that happens ?
[06:53] <raylu> actually
[06:53] <mo0osah> CPrgmSwR2: If you can run the live cd... it should be a piece of cake
[06:53] <raylu> if people just documented their hardware, we'd be fine too
[06:53] <intelikey> raylu same thing isn't it ?
[06:53] <intelikey> :)
[06:53] <raylu> lol?
[06:54] <intelikey> not gonna happen
[06:54] <raylu> =\
[06:54] <raylu> but one is far better than the other
[06:54] <raylu> seing as how one's an improvement and the other is total stagnation
[06:54] <intelikey> that's openion
[06:55] <mo0osah> or maybe companies just start treating linux they way they treat window
[06:55] <mo0osah> windows*
[06:55] <raylu> oh c'mon...no one could possibly disagree =\
[06:55] <intelikey> if linux paid them the same they probably would.
[06:55] <intelikey> raylu heh :)
[06:56] <mo0osah> MS doesnt pay anyone ....... they have to pay MS to sell windows... no?
[06:56] <mo0osah> on the other hand.... they dont have to pay anyone to sell linux distros
[06:56] <raylu> no one would pay you if yours didn't work with windows
[06:56] <mo0osah> ohh
[06:56] <mo0osah> i see what you mean
[06:56] <raylu> er, i didn't say that
[06:57] <mo0osah> lol
[06:57] <raylu> though its a much simpler way of looking at it
[06:57] <intelikey> pay for software ?
[06:57] <intelikey> pay for hardware ?
[06:57] <mo0osah> maybe
[06:57] <raylu> the hardware
[06:57] <intelikey> now laugh
[06:57] <haviers> I'm having a bit of trouble setting up NXbuilder... I can't get the Setup.php part to work... I fill in the data on the page, but when I click accept, it tells me: "Cannot write dump file"
[06:58] <NightBird> mo0osah: companies that sell computers get windows pretty cheap... like perhaps $50 for the home version of Vista.... if that
[06:58] <intelikey> "linux the europian threat to america"
[06:58] <dsmith> lol
[06:59] <dsmith> ya right
[06:59] <mo0osah> I can get vista from my school for $30.... but why even pay that.....
[06:59] <intelikey> NightBird far less   bulk license is cheep
[06:59] <NightBird> mo0osah: ha, I got mine for free
[06:59] <NightBird> Vista Buisness from my college
[06:59] <dsmith> i have like 10 copies of vista home that from the dell PCs I installed on
[07:00] <NightBird> I graduated a month or two later... still haven't installed it
[07:00] <raylu> NightBird, same here ^^
[07:00] <dsmith> I install kubuntu on
[07:00] <mo0osah> I probably will stay away from vista until sp1 is released
[07:00] <raylu> but i never installed it
[07:00] <raylu> i want backwards compatibility :(
[07:00] <dsmith> I stuck one in the microwave
[07:00] <dsmith> :P
[07:00] <NightBird> mo0osah: beta for sp1 is coming out the month or the next
[07:00] <mo0osah> hmm... that's quick
[07:00] <NightBird> yeah
[07:00] <NightBird> that's because a lot of buisnesses are waiting for sp1 to come out
[07:01] <NightBird> so... you may want to wait a bit longer
[07:01] <mo0osah> lol
[07:01] <snake_> i get an api mismatch error. nvidia kernel module is not the same with the x server module. what can i do to resolve this please
[07:01] <dsmith> vista, M$ can only polish a turd so much
[07:01] <intelikey> i got handed a new laptop with vesta on it.   i proceeded imediatly to boot the linux cd and issue   cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda
[07:01] <NightBird> snake_: my suggestion would be to reinstall the nvidia driver
[07:01] <raylu> snake_, how did you install the nvidia drivers?
[07:01] <NightBird> ah... bash shell...
[07:02] <snake_> i had nvidia-glx and then removed them and installed nvidia-glx-new
[07:02] <mo0osah> dsmith: from what i've heard and read, it's actually not that bad....
[07:02] <snake_> and i reinstalled what i had before
[07:02] <snake_> now i have nvidia-glx
[07:02] <mo0osah> NightBird: how much HD space does it require?
[07:02] <dsmith> neither is a cow apttier with enought sugar
[07:02] <dsmith> *pattie
[07:02] <NightBird> mo0osah: for what? OpenBSD?
[07:02] <snake_> raylu i installed them with synaptica
[07:02] <mo0osah> NightBird: yea
[07:02] <snake_> synaptic*
[07:03] <intelikey> mo0osah heh   for what ?   unix like linux can be pretty small or bloated
[07:03] <NightBird> minimum of 587 mb w/o X
[07:03] <NightBird> 717 mb if you want an x server
[07:03] <intelikey> yeah that's bloat
[07:03] <mo0osah> NightBird: Cool, might give it a shot....  I was actually gonna try FreeBSD
[07:03] <NightBird> well.... minimum suggested...
[07:04] <NightBird> of the bsd's I've played with, I still prefer pcbsd.... but then again, I like nice ui's and things that do stuff for me
[07:05] <intelikey> i installed linux on a 220m hard drive in a 486 lappy with 16m ram      had to make a partition so i could transfer the system  so i installed in 100m space
[07:06] <thunderbolt> Hmmm, anyone ever use the Kopete translate plugin?
[07:08] <inteliwasp> anyone know where i can get help with xinerama?
[07:08] <intelikey> i still have the laptop,  don't use it much;  it dual boots win95 and linux 2.4  mandrake 9.0      works well   486 lappy is a bit slow though.
[07:08] <intelikey> inteliwasp what kind of help with it ?
[07:08] <intelikey> inteliwasp basic   advanced   trubble shoot ?
[07:09] <inteliwasp> intelikey: it won't get the second monitor to start, more of a nvidia binary thing...
[07:09] <dawiz__> hello room
[07:10] <haviers> anyone know where I can get help with NX?
[07:10] <intelikey> oh  yuch.   sorry then  not me.    but maybe in  #ubuntu-effects
[07:10] <intelikey> inteliwasp ^
[07:10] <raylu> so, can anyone help me with this: http://pastecode.org/49
[07:11] <mo0osah> http://blaireaulinux.free.fr/images/wallpapers/freebsd-beauty.jpg makes me just want to try freeBSD
[07:11] <haviers> you have issues with dualview on an nvidia driver?
[07:11] <inteliwasp> ** (WW) NVIDIA: More than one matching Device section found: 1 NVIDIA Corporation NV20 [GeForce3 Ti 200]  **
[07:12] <intelikey> raylu i'm not much on networking but line 30 looks like a clue    address   0.0.0.0   bad address
[07:13] <haviers> 0.0.0.0 just means use all interfaces, if I recall.
[07:13] <raylu> yeah
[07:13] <intelikey> inteliwasp pstebin the  xorg.conf  i might spot something    who knows
[07:13] <raylu> i also tried 192.168.1.68, my lan ip for that computer
[07:13] <raylu> and it gave me the same message
[07:13] <intelikey> ok.  i'll look some more.
[07:14] <haviers> I can look at the xorg file... I've spent days setting up a tripple monitor setup a few years back.
[07:14] <intelikey> i still say the answer is in line 30.       30. (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0     not the address maybe but something there.
[07:15] <evilmm> im trying to install kubuntu on a friends computer...is there any reason why it wont detect any partitions on the disk
[07:15] <evilmm> other distros live disks work fine
[07:15] <raylu> evilmm, what are you using to detect?
[07:15] <evilmm> i do have to turn off acpi though
[07:16] <raylu> intelikey, er...that's why i highlighted that line :P
[07:16] <evilmm> both ubiquity and qtparted
[07:16] <haviers> its trying to open a socket thats already open
[07:16] <raylu> yeah, but nmap localhost
[07:16] <raylu> shows that only sshd and mysqld are running
[07:16] <raylu> and "ps -A | grep ap" shows nothing
[07:16] <intelikey> raylu sorry.  links doesn't notice it as highlighted
[07:16] <raylu> except kswapd0 and wrap_wq
[07:18] <intelikey> evilmm issue       sudo fdisk -l      see if it lists partitions
[07:18] <inteliwasp> intelikey: http://pastebin.com/m6c75a37d
[07:18] <intelikey> evilmm or cat /proc/prtitions     either one.
[07:19] <evilmm> lol ill try tomarrow
[07:20] <evilmm> booted him back to m$
[07:20] <dawiz__> im likin kubuntu so far
[07:20] <dawiz__> almost too easy tho
[07:20] <thunderbolt> You'll Jinx it!
[07:20] <thunderbolt> shhh!
[07:20] <thunderbolt> *grin*
[07:20] <intelikey> inteliwasp  dubble entries.   you need to change an identifier or something on   "Section "Monitor"     Identifier     "0 1772E"   <<<<  the next section is the same.
[07:20] <evilmm> intelikey: hes got a real messed up mobo, some cheap HP stuff
[07:20] <haviers> try to use "netstat -l" to display open sockets
[07:21] <intelikey> evilmm ok.
[07:21] <inteliwasp> intelikey: they shuld be there... i hope
[07:21] <intelikey> inteliwasp but not identical
[07:21] <dawiz__> going back to slack after my powerpc took a dump, was impractical
[07:21] <intelikey> make one monitor1
[07:22] <dawiz__> i used to enjoy all the configuring
[07:22] <raylu> haviers, 6600, mysql, ssh, and two bootpcs on udp
[07:22] <inteliwasp> you mean rename the section names?
[07:22] <intelikey> inteliwasp yes it's not seeing two monitors because the info is the same  it sees one monitor two times
[07:23] <intelikey> "Q. what's the differance in a duck?   A. one leg is both the same."
[07:23] <intelikey> see what i mean  ?
[07:24] <inteliwasp> intelikey: the monitors are idnetical...
[07:26] <intelikey> inteliwasp but the identifiers can't be, or else xorg knows without a doubt that you only have one monitor.    now   is that the error you have?   xorg thinks that there is one monitor ?    then change the second   {   Identifier     "0 1772E" }     to    {   Identifier     "1 1772E" }
[07:26] <haviers> did you try to run   apache2ctl with the configtest option to make sure its not caused by a typo in a config file?
[07:26] <raylu> haviers, it passed; otherwise, it wouldn't have loaded those modules
[07:27] <raylu> and configtest says "Syntax OK"
[07:27] <intelikey> identical devices with identical identifiers == one device.
[07:27] <raylu> actually, doesn't that generate an error, intelikey
[07:27] <intelikey> raylu yes and he posted the error that pointed that out also
[07:28] <inteliwasp> look at line 499:      (WW) NVIDIA: More than one matching Device section found: 1 NVIDIA Corporation NV20 [GeForce3 Ti 200] 
[07:29] <tyron> hi can anyone piont me to a really simple walk through for installing myth tv on kubuntu?
[07:29] <inteliwasp> !mythtv > tyron
[07:29] <inteliwasp> !mythtv
[07:29] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[07:30] <tyron> thank you
[07:30] <inteliwasp> that help tyron?
[07:31] <inteliwasp> intelikey: by the way, can i get rid of the wacom stuff in xorg.conf?
[07:32] <tyron> yes
[07:32] <intelikey> indeed   and you should   imo
[07:32] <evilmm> i just came to the realization that i like amarok better than all of microsoft windows
[07:32] <tyron> is mythtv the best thing as a media center? i dont want to record anything just play music and avi's
[07:32] <intelikey> be sure you don't just del the device listing   but also the referances to them inteliwasp
[07:32] <inteliwasp> oh goodie i can clean up some of the mess in there, and in the error logs
[07:33] <inteliwasp> intelikey: i was going to comment them out
[07:33] <intelikey>     InputDevice    "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"   <<<<  those also   i mean.
[07:37] <inteliwasp> anyone recomend a decent agp vid card that is under $140 ?
[07:37] <intelikey> well good,  i'm glad that someone actually puts that brain twich config hack to use.
[07:38] <inteliwasp> intelikey: ???
[07:38] <intelikey> @ mo0osah
[07:38] <inteliwasp> oh
[07:39] <mo0osah> intelikey: huh?
[07:41] <intelikey> that seemingly rediculess idea to make xorg.conf search for wacom devices on all systems.    i'm glad someone actually uses it...
[07:41] <intelikey> mo0osah until you,  all i had see it mentioned in here was "why is it there and how to remove it"
[07:42] <intelikey> and i've been in here way too much.
[07:42] <inteliwasp> intelikey: i wonder if my card really does have multiple heads.....
[07:42] <mo0osah> intelikey: I was actually surprised everything worked out of the box
[07:42] <mo0osah> intelikey: I had planned to spend a few hours to get it working .... hehe
[07:43] <intelikey> :)
[07:43] <intelikey> inteliwasp heh  look and see   :)
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> hi, I am ssh'ed into a machine, it there a way to launch a graphical editor from the outside machine to see the file better
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> or at see it graphically
[07:43] <mo0osah> umm... no?
[07:44] <inteliwasp> export the display...
[07:44] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago vnc ?
[07:44] <inteliwasp> and launch konq or some other file program
[07:44] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago: does the server have X?
[07:45] <intelikey> !vnc
[07:45] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:45] <intelikey> !FreeNX
[07:45] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[07:46] <inteliwasp> why do that when he can export the X display and launch any file broswer app?
[07:48] <intelikey> export the display work if the server is M$   or not running xorg   ?
[07:49] <inteliwasp> well my brain has hit the limit for how long it can function without caffine in a sleep deprived state... time for bed...
[07:50] <jasj> hi, i have problems with dri, in kubuntu 7.04
[07:50] <inteliwasp> intelikey: get a server cookbook
[07:50] <intelikey> ?
[07:50] <inteliwasp> intelikey: from orilley
[07:50] <intelikey> buy ?
[07:50] <intelikey> as in pay for ?
[07:50] <inteliwasp> ack! o'rilley
[07:51] <inteliwasp> or library
[07:51] <jasj> upgreemto mesa 7.0????
[07:51] <jasj> update
[07:51] <intelikey> pay for howto's ?       kinda like    pay for software   aint it ?
[07:51] <inteliwasp> i really need sleep, night all
[07:52] <intelikey> night inteli
[07:52] <jasj> hi someone knows how update the mesa drivers  in festy to mesa 7
[07:53] <intelikey> jasj if no one answers you in here, (about dri)  check in #ubuntu-effects
[07:54] <jasj> tanks
[07:56] <haviers> alrighty, I put one of my older *working* dualmon configured xorg.conf files... http://seeco.cc/linux/files/xorg.html
[07:58] <jombee> I have an issue with my login splash screen, can anyone help?
[07:58] <sjck> Hey, I tried to compile yakuake. checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! <--- What does that mean? :)
[07:59] <jombee> try installing xserver-xorg-dev
[07:59] <haviers> you prob need xorg devel files
[07:59] <jombee> you don't have the X dev environment
[07:59] <intelikey> sjck means you need the dev package
[07:59] <sjck> Will that have any efect on screen?
[07:59] <sjck> Like resolution..
[07:59] <intelikey> nope
[07:59] <jombee> no
[08:00] <haviers> are you running 32 or 64bit?
[08:00] <sjck> 32
[08:00] <sjck> any reason why its not "default"? :)
[08:01] <sjck> I dont understand why theres no C-Compailer by default either..
[08:01] <jombee> because you don't need them unless you're compiling something with x support
[08:01] <haviers> few people compile code
[08:01] <sjck> uh I see. :)
[08:01] <jombee> haviers: would you say that few do?
[08:02] <haviers> I would
[08:02] <jombee> I would think that most linux users compile something at some point
[08:02] <sjck> Still same problem
[08:02] <sjck> want whole ./configure?
[08:02] <fizz_> Hey so... I can't seem to get my mp3s to play?
[08:02] <haviers> I think only the kinds of people that hang out on a linux IRC would compile code
[08:03] <sjck> haviers most cool apps dont have an installer (in my opinion : ) )
[08:04] <sjck> but I would like to compile yakuake now :)
[08:04] <haviers> ;) I totally agree, but he asked why its not "default"...
[08:04] <jombee> lol
[08:04] <intelikey> jombee not ubuntu users
[08:05] <fizz_> Anyone have any ideas?
[08:05] <jombee> fizz did you install the codecs?
[08:05] <haviers> yeah, install automatix...
[08:05] <intelikey> !mp3 | fizz_ yeah this.
[08:05] <ubotu> fizz_ yeah this.: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:07] <haviers> I actually have an NX related issue, if anyone is familar with its workings...
[08:07] <fizz_> Cool, thanks.
[08:07] <sjck> no idea? noone? :<
[08:07] <jombee> sjck, install the dev files and you'll be all set
[08:08] <sjck> which dev?
[08:08] <sjck> xserver?
[08:08] <intelikey> sjck you have build-essential installed dont' you?
[08:08] <haviers> sjck, try to read about all the depends
[08:08] <sjck> intelikey, i have
[08:08] <intelikey> k
[08:08] <sjck> but hes talking about x libaries
[08:08] <intelikey> then it's dev packages     which i don't know.
[08:09] <intelikey> xlib-dev ?
[08:09] <xevious> i have a system with a ide system/applications drive and a sata raid 5 array for home directories and network shares. i've been through several system drives crashing, and was wondering if it's possible to make /etc a symlink to a directory on the raid 5 array. is that going to cause any problems?
[08:09] <jombee> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev
[08:10] <intelikey> ooops left out x     xlibs-dev
[08:10] <intelikey> err s
[08:10] <intelikey> err look over me.
[08:10] <haviers> sjck, try this to be sure its not an dep issue...  "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential gcc gcc-3.4 xserver-xorg-dev"
[08:11] <intelikey> xevious etc must be on the root fs    or at least part of the content of /etc    sorry   that's just how that works.
[08:11] <mo0osah> time for bed...
[08:11] <mo0osah> night all
[08:11] <g_money> Hey everybody...I was wondering if anybody would help me out with a wifi card issue.
[08:11] <g_money> :)
[08:11] <intelikey> night Mo
[08:11] <mo0osah> what's the issue
[08:12] <mo0osah> you should try catching some sleep intelikey :)
[08:12] <sjck> Okay haviers moment. .)
[08:12] <mo0osah> you're a robot....
[08:12] <g_money> Basically, I can't get it to connect....at all.
[08:12] <haviers> xevious, you can make a sym link... I'm 100% on that
[08:12] <intelikey> i sleep while i type    haven't you noticed ???
[08:12] <mo0osah> lol
[08:12] <intelikey> :)
[08:12] <jombee> g_money what kind of card is it?
[08:12] <mo0osah> g_money: at all meaning unsecured, wep, wpa.... etc...?
[08:13] <intelikey> !wifi | g_money been here ?
[08:13] <ubotu> g_money been here ?: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:13] <sjck> haviers, still :/
[08:13] <haviers> I've had to do it for /etc and /var on my 1&1 root server...
[08:13] <g_money> It's an Atheros AR5006X
[08:13] <xevious> ok. i got two conflicting responses
[08:13] <g_money> ubotu:  I think i have been there, let me check.
[08:14] <intelikey> xevious ok what was the Q.  i'll see if i can conflict with both...
[08:14] <raylu> !modeline > berzerker
[08:14] <raylu> ^^
[08:14] <Berzerker> ?
[08:14] <raylu> did you get a msg from ubotu?
[08:14] <Berzerker> yes
[08:14] <Berzerker> I didn't read it
[08:14] <klobster> kaffeine is crashing, but only for one user
[08:14] <Berzerker> and exited hte msg window
[08:14] <raylu> !modeline | berzerker
[08:14] <ubotu> berzerker: A Modeline is a config line in the X server configuration file that gives info about a connected display and how to drive it at a specified display resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline for more details. Here are 2 links to generate modelines which fit your monitor: http://bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ and http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[08:14] <klobster> any ideas?
[08:14] <xevious> intelikey: the question about /etc being a symlink to a directory on my raid5 array
[08:14] <g_money> jombee:  I've tried the restricted-modules, madwifi, and also ndiswrapper so far.
[08:14] <xevious> intelikey: haviers said that it was 100% a-ok
[08:15] <intelikey> xevious oh one was my response already    and   i stick by my answer.
[08:15] <sjck> Damn..
[08:15] <intelikey> xevious try it and see.  but keep a live cd handy.    you'll need it.
[08:16] <haviers> so you want to do this.... mkdir /home/etc; cp -R /etc /home/etc; mv /etc /etc_backup;  ln -s /home/etc /etc
[08:16] <xevious> i suppose i'll just set up a cron script to back it up
[08:16] <intelikey> haviers and when he boots it's kernel panic city.
[08:16] <xevious> because it doesnt see the inittab
[08:17] <xevious> right?
[08:17] <jasj> what is the chanel for  effects dri
[08:17] <intelikey> can't mount home where /etc lives cause /etc is missing that tells init how to mount /home....      loop   panic
[08:17] <g_money> jombee:  do you have any ideas for an Atheros wifi card?
[08:17] <g_money> :)
[08:18] <xevious> yeah i'll just cron a tar job to back it up every so often
[08:18] <intelikey> xevious it's more than just the fstab   the init scripts are there too
[08:18] <haviers> mount command is built into the kernel, it doesn't need the /etc
[08:18] <intelikey> haviers test your theory  :)
[08:18] <intelikey> and yes i have tested it.
[08:19] <jasj> hi. what chanel is for dri #effects??
[08:19] <intelikey> and no mount is not built into the kernel.
[08:19] <haviers> me too, but I'll do it again on a vm machine right now
[08:19] <haviers> *into bash
[08:19] <intelikey> no
[08:19] <jombee> g_money I found this http://www.leog.net/fujp_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9030
[08:19] <jombee> have you been there?
[08:19] <intelikey> it is in the initramfs image   but as soon as / is mounted that's finished.
[08:19] <jasj> #effects
[08:20] <g_money> no that url doesn't look familiar to me.
[08:20] <g_money> I'll check it out.  Thanks for your help jombee.
[08:20] <jasj> hiii
[08:20] <jombee> seems like you'll have to compile the driver though
[08:20] <sjck> how do i get the name of motherboard? :)
[08:21] <jombee> sjck I use a flashlight
[08:21] <sjck> hehe
[08:21] <jasj> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:21] <jasj> Ii
[08:21] <sjck> any command? : )
[08:21] <intelikey> sjck lshw
[08:21] <intelikey> should show the chip set     may not give the mother board maker...
[08:21] <jasj> some ones know the chanel for effects  like dri, berly,copiz
[08:21] <intelikey> so ....
[08:21] <jombee> sure if you want the easy way
[08:21] <g_money> yeah i think you're right about the compile.  I've never installed anything from source.
[08:21] <sjck> intelikey, thanks
[08:22] <jasj> #ubuntu-effects
[08:22] <intelikey> jasj yes ^
[08:22] <haviers> intelikey, once its switched over to /, the symlink sould kick in
[08:22] <jombee> it's easy, just make sure you read the directions
[08:22] <jombee> *one more linux user who will have compiled something
[08:22] <intelikey> haviers the symlink is pointing at nothing until the /home is mounted       just try it.   you'll see
[08:23] <g_money> yeah, i'm not scared.
[08:23] <g_money> :)
[08:23] <xevious> haviers: but if it's in /home/etc and /home is mounted by /etc/fstab then it's not going to work
[08:23] <g_money> but...do i have to blacklist the other methods i've tried before i install madwifi?
[08:23] <haviers> ah... I got ya
[08:23] <haviers> let me check somthing though
[08:23] <intelikey> the information that init reads from /etc up to the point of mounting the "other" fs  must be in root fs /etc   regurdless
[08:25] <intelikey> in theory,  one could have the initramfs mount all the needed file systems    but that will have to include setting up the raids
[08:25] <xevious> ...
[08:25] <intelikey> thus initramfs image will be huge
[08:25] <xevious> why?
[08:25] <xevious> it's hardware raid
[08:25] <xevious> it's just the adaptec aacraid driver
[08:26] <intelikey> xevious raid 5   is hardware ?
[08:26] <xevious> yup
[08:26] <intelikey> hmmm   ok.
[08:26] <intelikey> well the image might not be that huge for you then.
[08:27] <xevious> so all i'd need would be a custom initrd
[08:27] <xevious> huh
[08:27] <intelikey> in theory
[08:27] <xevious> i've never dealt with those
[08:27] <xevious> i'll read up
[08:27] <xevious> try it out
[08:27] <intelikey> k
[08:28] <xevious> get this: i'm upgrading my current file server... a *cough* dual celeron 300@458 abit bp6 circa 96
[08:28] <xevious> just started getting apic errors
[08:28] <haviers> here is how I set it up... http://seeco.cc/linux/files/symlink.html
[08:28] <xevious> thanks
[08:29] <intelikey> server   you could disable all apic
[08:29] <g_money> jombee:   ok i'll try that out...thanks again!
[08:29] <haviers> I guess I didn't have it done with /etc, but I remember having that issue in the past
[08:34] <intelikey> hmmm  nothing special about my /    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38247
[08:35] <haviers> should there be?
[08:36] <haviers> lol
[08:36] <haviers> my kind of guy
[08:36] <intelikey> let's see /etc/mtab can be a link to /proc/mounts
[08:36] <haviers> it would have to be rw though ;)
[08:37] <intelikey> haviers heh you should see the hoary box in the other room.   most of / looks like   --x--------x root blah/
[08:38] <enzolabianca> hi all
[08:39] <haviers> oh? a server box?
[08:39] <intelikey> i could use unionfs and mount a ram disk on top of /etc which is on cd then it's writable and yet never actually changes.....
[08:39] <intelikey> haviers yeah
[08:40] <intelikey> actually that was wrong it's not --x--------x  it's  -----------x
[08:40] <haviers> lol, whats that for?
[08:40] <haviers> and why can only the "other" exicute it?
[08:40] <intelikey> starting at /       ls -ld /  -----------x 18 root root 4096 Jul 17 04:12 /
[08:41] <intelikey> cause i wanted it that way ???
[08:41] <haviers> oh, got ya
[08:41] <haviers> lol
[08:41] <intelikey> root ignores perms anyway   and other can exec but not read
[08:42] <intelikey> thus  the system works fine but you never know what is on the system...
[08:43] <intelikey> you can search commands in your path with the tab key  but which can't find them so you don't know if they are warpers or what
[08:44] <haviers> my servers is setup looks kile this:ls -ld / drwxr-xr-x  19 root root 4096 2007-07-13 11:55 /
[08:46] <haviers> I host a gaming website on it... hdvg.net
[08:46] <Dragon_1212> what game
[08:46] <Dragon_1212> hi all
[08:46] <Dragon_1212> can someone help me out
[08:47] <haviers> http://hdvg.net/index.php All kinds of games... and whats the trouble?
[08:47] <Dragon_1212> umm when i install a new graphics card will ubuntu read it?
[08:47] <intelikey> lizard eleven eleven plus one oh one     you'll have to reconfigure xorg
[08:48] <Dragon_1212> oh ok
[08:48] <Dragon_1212> antway are these games for linux?
[08:48] <haviers> sigh... very few
[08:48] <Dragon_1212> like????
[08:49] <intelikey> Dragon_1212 when you install the card,    sudo dpkg-reconfigue xserver-xorg
[08:49] <Dragon_1212> gimme one cool game thts for linux so i can get it
[08:49] <Dragon_1212> ok
[08:49] <Dragon_1212> ty
[08:49] <intelikey> !games
[08:49] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[08:49] <Daisuke-Ido> i have no sound in games :\
[08:49] <haviers> my site is just about info... but doom3 quake4, unreal*,
[08:49] <Daisuke-Ido> i have sound in kde
[08:49] <Daisuke-Ido> i've played with the sound server settings
[08:50] <Daisuke-Ido> tried ALSA and OSS to no avail
[08:50] <haviers> using alsa or oss?
[08:50] <haviers> man... I type too slow
[08:51] <intelikey> there sure a lot of red file names in linux...   "suid junk"
[08:51] <haviers> red file names? you using one of them fancy shells?
[08:52] <intelikey> haviers yeah   bash  :)     ls /bin
[08:52] <intelikey> more over    ls /usr/bin --color=auto
[08:53] <haviers> yeah, it was a misguided attempt at humor on my part...
[08:53] <Daisuke-Ido> any ideas?
[08:53] <haviers> what game?
[08:54] <haviers> dosn't have sound...?
[08:54] <haviers> doesn't*
[08:54] <intelikey> :)
[08:54] <intelikey> dosn't == dos not    :)
[08:54] <Daisuke-Ido> DROD, Unreal Tournament
[08:54] <Dragon_1212> yo who here has legacy DOOM
[08:54] <Dragon_1212> i need help installing it
[08:56] <intelikey> but then i'm not violent,
[08:57] <intelikey> i don't remember ever beating an animal to death with a bottle of shaving lotion
[08:58] <Daisuke-Ido> does amarok keep the sound system locked?
[08:58] <haviers> try to check the output of lscpi -v
[08:59] <intelikey> s/cp/pc/
[08:59] <Daisuke-Ido> yeah, i fail to see what that is supposed to be showing me.
[09:01] <haviers> I'm sure intelikey will correct me if I'm mistaken, but alsa should be able to handle multiple streams...
[09:01] <Daisuke-Ido> though artsd shows up in ps aux | grep artsd five times
[09:02] <Daisuke-Ido> 4 oss, one alsa :(
[09:02] <Daisuke-Ido> this doesn't sound kosher
[09:02] <gibson> I think konqueror might have been written by retarded chimps.
[09:02] <arun> !luxi
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about luxi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <intelikey> gibson nice troll      :)    got any more ?
[09:02] <arun> anyone know the package name for luxi sans fonts?
[09:03] <Daisuke-Ido> !find *luxi*
[09:03] <gibson> hmmm
[09:03] <ubotu> Found: E:
[09:03] <gibson> how is OMG FIRST POZT
[09:04] <gibson> Though I fail to see how that was trolling, konqueror literally is the worst browser since safari
[09:04] <intelikey> that's how  ^   (:    hehhe
[09:04] <Daisuke-Ido> that was also a troll.
[09:05] <intelikey> Daisuke-Ido ^5
[09:05] <Daisuke-Ido> unless you somehow DON'T know they have the same base (apple has moved away from it a bit)
[09:05] <haviers> when you installed unreal, did you install openAL ?
[09:05] <gibson> ahhh
[09:05] <haviers> and what kind of sound card are you using?
[09:05] <gibson> the linux has made you all pretentious
[09:05] <gibson> I see
[09:06] <intelikey> three in a row      he's on a roll  to troll ...
[09:06] <Daisuke-Ido> and apple users aren't pretentious?
[09:06] <haviers> I love me some apple... I ain't ashamed to say it
[09:06] <gibson> I'm not an apple user
[09:06] <Daisuke-Ido> then you have no right to criticize safari, now, do you?
[09:07] <gibson> I used to use gentoo with enlightenment
[09:07] <haviers> I love me some photoshop too!
[09:07] <Daisuke-Ido> now who's pretentious?
[09:07] <gibson> ?
[09:07] <intelikey> ok kids lets not make it personal,   the opps will come and take us all away
[09:08] <Daisuke-Ido> my karma can take the hit.
[09:08] <haviers> boy howdy
[09:08] <Daisuke-Ido> anyway
[09:08] <Daisuke-Ido> haviers: you were saying about openAL?
[09:08] <gibson> Troll!
[09:09] <Daisuke-Ido> libopenalpp?
[09:09] <gibson> Troll!
[09:09] <haviers> first, did you already say what soundcard your using?
[09:09] <squee> How do I have an application run on startup in kde?
[09:09] <Daisuke-Ido> nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[09:09] <Troll> Troll!
[09:09] <Daisuke-Ido> a typica ac'97 chipset
[09:09] <Daisuke-Ido> and it was working before.
[09:09] <intelikey> !autostart | squee
[09:09] <ubotu> squee: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:09] <haviers> oh?
[09:10] <Daisuke-Ido> with DROD, at least
[09:10] <Troll> 
[09:10] <squee> thanks
[09:10] <Troll> Troll!
[09:10] <Daisuke-Ido> and i can't think of what would have changed
[09:10] <Troll> Troll?
[09:10] <Daisuke-Ido> !ops
[09:10] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[09:10] <Daisuke-Ido> not going to deal with this prick.
[09:10] <Troll> hahaha
[09:10] <Troll> close your eyes and ears and go "nananana" you magnificent pretentious bastard
[09:11] <haviers> when I have problems with alsa, the only mixer that I can get to work worth a damn is alsamixer
[09:13] <Daisuke-Ido> should i be using full duplex?
[09:13] <haviers> yeah...
[09:13] <Daisuke-Ido> i don't remember if that was enabled by default...
[09:13] <intelikey> Hobbsee it's in the water   ?
[09:13] <Hobbsee> intelikey: must be...
[09:14] <Daisuke-Ido> meh
[09:14] <haviers> does it say your using the "intel 5ch" or the "Nvidia" thing in alsamixer?
[09:14] <Daisuke-Ido> still nada
[09:14] <Daisuke-Ido> nvidia ck804
[09:15] <Daisuke-Ido> and the chances of it saying i'm using intel anything are extremely low :)
[09:15] <Berzerker> anyone here to help?
[09:16] <haviers> let me switch workstations, I have that same chipset on another linux box... brb
[09:16] <intelikey> i know it not worth anything,  but i really like the old isa soundcards that were "real" sound cards    supported midi and everything,     anymore you have to install 35m of software to do what the card is supposed to do.
[09:16] <Berzerker> I'm having a problem with my resolution, can anyone help?
[09:16] <Daisuke-Ido> Card: NVidia CK804  Chip: Realtek ALC850 rev 0
[09:17] <Daisuke-Ido> intelikey: turtle beach :)
[09:17] <intelikey> Berzerker what driver ?
[09:17] <Berzerker> nv
[09:17] <Berzerker> I can change the resolution fine
[09:17] <Berzerker> but
[09:17] <Daisuke-Ido> and the good old-fashioned gravis ultrasound
[09:17] <Berzerker> it seems that my current resolution isn't using the entire screen
[09:17] <Berzerker> and the picture is slightly distorted
[09:18] <intelikey> Berzerker hmmm   adjust the monitor ?       errr  the monitor settings are a bit off one ?
[09:18] <Berzerker> no.
[09:18] <Berzerker> haven't touched the monitor settings
[09:18] <Berzerker> in like forever
[09:18] <intelikey> i mean on the device itself
[09:18] <intelikey> buttons knobs...
[09:19] <Berzerker> yes
[09:19] <Berzerker> I mean on the device
[09:19] <intelikey> k
[09:19] <Berzerker> i haven't touched it
[09:19] <Daisuke-Ido> The KDE sound system takes exclusive control over your audio hardware, blocking programs that may wish to use it directly.  If the KDE sound system sits idle it can give up this exclusive control.
[09:19] <Daisuke-Ido> nice.  so i set it to autosuspend if idle for 5 seconds
[09:19] <intelikey> so set the rsync and href correctly
[09:19] <Berzerker> eh
[09:20] <intelikey> one can sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[09:20] <Daisuke-Ido> that didn't work either
[09:21] <Berzerker> could it be the problem that
[09:21] <Berzerker> I don't have
[09:21] <Berzerker> -vsync and -hsync
[09:21] <Berzerker> after the modeline
[09:21] <intelikey> Berzerker and you might look at monitorworld.com   and get the rates if you don't know them    or the monitor may be able to display them.
[09:21] <intelikey> Berzerker yes and  ^
[09:21] <Berzerker> would it be - or +
[09:21] <Berzerker> for them
[09:22] <intelikey> depends on the monitor
[09:22] <intelikey> "mode" on this one..
[09:22] <Daisuke-Ido> Impossible to start aRts with realtime priority because artswrapper is missing or disabled
[09:22] <Daisuke-Ido> this doesn't sound good.
[09:23] <Berzerker> my monitor isn't listed there
[09:23] <intelikey> Berzerker hmmm
[09:24] <intelikey> well he left.
[09:25] <haviers> I didn't know you even switched
[09:25] <Daisuke-Ido> bleh :(
[09:25] <intelikey> ?   !!!   . );
[09:25] <Daisuke-Ido> i set everything to defaults
[09:25] <intelikey> tilt
[09:25] <Daisuke-Ido> hoping for a clean start
[09:25] <Daisuke-Ido> with things, you know, working.
[09:26] <Daisuke-Ido> should i have artswrapper?
[09:26] <Daisuke-Ido> open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[09:26] <Daisuke-Ido> well here's a useful error
[09:26] <haviers> run alsaconf then just run "alsactl store"
[09:27] <intelikey> not really.   i think arts will keep dsp busy
[09:27] <Daisuke-Ido> from running ut-bin
[09:27] <haviers> can run speaker-test command aswell
[09:27] <Daisuke-Ido> well, i need it.
[09:27] <Daisuke-Ido> no command alsaconf
[09:28] <haviers> ??
[09:30] <intelikey> oh. Daisuke-Ido prolly not at this hour.  but if you can catch "c r i m s u n" around, he's sound pro.
[09:30] <haviers> apt-get install alsa-utils
[09:31] <Dragon_1212> yo how can u install the 3D drivers on ubuntu
[09:31] <Dragon_1212> i need help
[09:31] <Dragon_1212> i donwloaded them from nvidia.com now what do i do
[09:31] <intelikey> Dragon_1212 yo by installing the driver for your vidio card.
[09:31] <intelikey> !ati | Dragon_1212
[09:31] <ubotu> Dragon_1212: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:31] <Dragon_1212> yea but how
[09:31] <Dragon_1212> k
[09:31] <haviers> If your that new to the process, maybe you should try automatix or the like
[09:32] <Daisuke-Ido> yo by not installing those and installing the ones from the repo instead like a good boy
[09:32] <Daisuke-Ido> and NOT automatix
[09:32] <intelikey> !automatix
[09:32] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:32] <Daisuke-Ido> there is nothing automatix provides that can't be done easily these days
[09:32] <intelikey>      !!!   ^   !!!
[09:32] <haviers> never had any issues...
[09:33] <intelikey> !WorksForMe | ;)
[09:33] <ubotu> ;): Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:34] <Dragon_1212> anyways whenever i try to play a 3d game on linux how come it freezes one me?
[09:34] <Dragon_1212> is it my graphics card?
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: sorry for the delay, how can i export a display?
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know if the server has x, i didn't set it up.
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> VNC isn't encrypted is it?
[09:35] <intelikey> export DISPLAY=:0      most likely Admiral_Chicago
[09:35] <Dragon_1212> can anyone help me with my issue please
[09:35] <intelikey> could be :0.1    or others
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, it'll give it a shot
[09:40] <Daisuke-Ido> Dragon_1212: uh... duh?
[09:40] <Daisuke-Ido> you don't have the drivers installed
[09:40] <Daisuke-Ido> that means no 3d
[09:40] <Daisuke-Ido> no crap 3d games aren't working
[09:40] <Daisuke-Ido> they can't.
[09:40] <Dragon_1212> well where do i go to install em
[09:40] <Daisuke-Ido> ffs...
[09:40] <Dragon_1212> lol
[09:40] <intelikey> Dragon_1212 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto <<< ?
[09:40] <Dragon_1212> i did
[09:40] <Dragon_1212> it didnt help  me at all
[09:40] <Dragon_1212> do i have to run a code or something
[09:40] <intelikey> like duh    or something
[09:40] <surgy> hi
[09:40] <wnuqui> hi
[09:40] <intelikey> sorry that was my last patient.   for the day.
[09:40] <haviers> ubotu, its an easy solution... I've installed it on many linux boxes, never had one issue. Based on that, plus the fact that he's obviously not familiar with how to install the nvidia driver... I don't think recommending automatix was inappropriate.
[09:40] <surgy> i need a good alarm clock software preferably one with many different alarms and settings. any one have any ideas?
[09:40] <Daisuke-Ido> haviers: he can install it from the repos even more easily
[09:40] <surgy> haviers: you realize ubotu is a bot.......
[09:40] <Daisuke-Ido> and i can't believe i'm doing this.
[09:40] <Daisuke-Ido> Dragon_1212: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:40] <Daisuke-Ido> if you had READ the link you were given you would have had SOME idea what to do.
[09:40] <wnuqui> intellikey: i used to install using adept manager
[09:40] <haviers> I had tons of issues installing the drivers from the repos... thats why I didn't recommend it.
[09:40] <wnuqui> intellikey: but after the unsuccessful attempt to install java i can no longer install anything
[09:40] <Daisuke-Ido> wnuqui: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:40] <surgy> anyone ?
[09:40] <Daisuke-Ido> "oh no!  one little thing broke, i can never use this again!"
[09:40] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | wnuqui
[09:40] <wnuqui> Daisuke-Ido: it's not working
[09:40] <intelikey> ubotu wake up !
[09:41] <ubotu> wnuqui: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wake up ! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <intelikey> !java | wnuqui
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> you need to do sud dpkg --configure -a
[09:41] <ubotu> wnuqui: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:41] <Daisuke-Ido> have you tried the standard "fix everything" R's?  Reboot, Restore, Reformat?
[09:42] <Daisuke-Ido> yes that was a sarcastic jab, it just ticks me off when people see those as the only options...
[09:42] <surgy> !alarm
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alarm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <wnuqui> i am on a Feisty Kubuntu
[09:42] <intelikey> wnuqui    those two "ubotu"  posts can solve all your problems      (dexcribed anyway...)
[09:42] <surgy> !i need alarm clock software
[09:42] <haviers> anyone on that has some knowledge of NXserver??
[09:42] <wnuqui> okay
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> surgy: please open adept and search for alarm
[09:42] <wnuqui> i'll try your suggestions
[09:42] <wnuqui> thanks
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache search alarm
[09:42] <surgy> yes sir
[09:42] <surgy> [02:42]  <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[09:43] <wnuqui> i'll inform later guys
[09:43] <wnuqui> thanks
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> that may be of much more use, its a bit hard to suggest one that is right for you
[09:43] <blau> hello xD
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> i use kalarm and it works for me
[09:43] <blau> im new at kubuntu
[09:43] <intelikey> surgy i'm glad it doesn't say, "<ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelikey :)"
[09:44] <Dragon_1212> yo DAIDUKE-IDO i did tht thing u told me to do now what restart?
[09:44] <haviers> actually, Admiral_Chicago... you should try NX for your vnc issue... works perfect for me, and its very fast!
[09:44] <surgy> intelikey: lol yeah but it whould be better that way :)
[09:47] <Daisuke-Ido> see, the windows mouth-breathers believe a reboot solves everything
[09:47] <Daisuke-Ido> Drag
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> haviers: thanks for the suggestion, i considered NX but I'm setting up a server remotely
[09:47] <Daisuke-Ido> Dragon_1212: yeah, what the heck, go ahead and restart
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> I don't know how much more I want to mess with configuring :_
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> :\
[09:47] <haviers> easy to do still
[09:48] <wnuqui> intellikey: here is the exact message whenever i tried to install in adept manager -> 'There was an error commiting changes. Possible there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.'
[09:48] <haviers> just download three .deb files... then dpkg -i *.deb.... then just download the client for the computer your on
[09:48] <haviers> I actually wrote a simple shell script to automate the server install, if you would like it
[09:49] <Guilty_as_Sin> would like to convert a screengrab (png) to pdf but if I use Oo.o "fit to width" does not work like you think it would..  thus making the exported pdf unreadable    anyone know a better a way?
[09:49] <snake_> here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30195/ can anyone tell me what do i have to add because i get a white screen when i try to run compiz --replace
[09:50] <Guilty_as_Sin> trivial matter but I'm stupmed
[09:50] <Guilty_as_Sin> stumped*
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> haviers: not on as easy on a gentoo box.
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> well maybe it is, i'm not sure. either way, i'm quickly earning much respect for server work in general
[09:52] <haviers> sorry, I assumed you used .deb because your in this channel... but Its not much harder...
[09:52] <snake_> anyone that can help me with my xorg.conf please
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> snake_: whats the issue
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> ah compiz...
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> okay hold on a sec
[09:53] <haviers> snake, I'll post mine config... working perfect with compiz
[09:53] <haviers> my*
[09:53] <snake_> haviers: ok thanx
[09:53] <snake_> give me the link so i can take a look
[09:53] <snake_> i have an nvidia go 7400
[09:55] <Admiral_Chicago> have you tried http://compiz.org/NVidia
[09:55] <snake_> Admiral_Chicago: yes
[09:55] <snake_> i am getting mad
[09:55] <snake_> :(
[09:56] <snake_> i just reinstalled my graphic card drivers
[09:56] <snake_> and i lost all
[10:01] <surgy> how do i hide my timer so it doesnt show it running on the taskbar?
[10:01] <surgy> ?
[10:02] <surgy> how do i hide a program so that when its running its not on the taskbar? but still runing?
[10:03] <fritz> from where do i change the bootsplash screen in kubuntu,,,and also if i donwload themes/styles from the kde look site, the theme manager from kcontrol doesen't recognize them as being theme files...any1 on this? ^.^
[10:03] <grul> surgy, you can choose "show only minimized programs" but i'm not sure that's what you're looking for
[10:04] <grul> in the taskbar settings
[10:05] <surgy> grul im wanting to run a particular program where it runs as part of the os and is not seen running except for the hour glass on the desktop..... that way it wont be cluttering my taskbar all the time
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> surgy: you can unlock kicker
[10:07] <surgy> ?
[10:07] <surgy> go on
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> and there is a small arrow at the top left if you move over the system tray
[10:07] <surgy> no
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> if you go to configure, you can show displayed items
[10:08] <surgy> where is kicker?
[10:09] <surgy> surgy@surgy:~$ unlock kicker
[10:09] <surgy> bash: unlock: command not found
[10:09] <surgy> ?
[10:09] <surgy> !unlock kicker
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unlock kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <surgy> !kicker
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <surgy> Admiral_Chicago: ?
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> surgy: kicker is your panetl
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> panel
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> right click on it
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> may not be unlocked even...
[10:12] <surgy> its unlocked
[10:12] <fritz> any1 on my question? ^.^
[10:12] <surgy> but i dont know where show displayed items is
[10:14] <Pooh22> Is it normal that a konqueror window looks more primitive when opening a usb medium in a new window (compared to opening the home directory)?
[10:14] <Admiral_Chicago> top left of the system tray
[10:14] <Pooh22> also the help menu isn't located in the usual right area
[10:14] <Admiral_Chicago> where the icons are
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> fritz: i didn't see your question, what is it?
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> Pooh22: no that shouldn't be right...
[10:15] <Pooh22> Admiral_Chicago: could it be a misconfigured config file from an older version of kde?
[10:16] <surgy> Admiral_Chicago: yeah but its not in my sys tray its on my taskbar.......
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> surgy: oh i see what you mean you just want it to run in the background.
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Pooh22: possibly, but it shouldn't do that anyways
[10:18] <surgy> yes
[10:18] <fritz> Admiral_Chicago: from where do i change the bootsplash screen in kubuntu,,,and also if i donwload themes/styles from the kde look site, the theme manager from kcontrol doesen't recognize them as being theme files...any1 on this? ^.^
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> give me a sec
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i did see it. fritz i have no idea which file to edit.
[10:19] <Admiral_Chicago> give me a sec though
[10:20] <surgy> fritz: its all in kdemenu > system settings
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> surgy: you may need to set a custom window behavior in system settings
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure where though
[10:22] <fritz> surgy:how do i get there?.....
[10:23] <Pooh22> Admiral_Chicago: I'll put up a screenshot...
[10:23] <fritz> surgy:where is kdemenu?
[10:23] <cyber_cop> hi channell
[10:23] <surgy> fritz: its the little blue k in bottom left hand corner
[10:23] <cyber_cop> I Turkish kubuntu user
[10:24] <cyber_cop> Adept packages install directory path ??
[10:24] <fritz> i didn't find the BOOTsplash screen there surgy, just the normal splashscreen feature
[10:24] <lionOfJudah> i'm looking for vmware for kubuntu that can run mac os x
[10:24] <lionOfJudah> any pointers?
[10:24] <lionOfJudah> ideas?
[10:24] <cyber_cop> upgrade install folder ??
[10:25] <Pooh22> http://margo.student.utwente.nl/simon/temp/usbkonq.png
[10:25] <Admiral_Chicago> cyber_cop: can you be a bit more specific?
[10:26] <Admiral_Chicago> that is quite odd, perhaps file a bug at launchpad.net
[10:28] <Pooh22> Admiral_Chicago: ok, I'll check on the #kde channel as well, perhaps they have seen it before?
[10:30] <fritz> i just installed dekorator...does any1 know where on earth it is?
[10:30] <heiths> Alright... sorry that took so long, daughter woke up. anyway, Here is my xorg.conf for my kubuntu box, pimped for compiz and nvidia goodness... http://seeco.cc/linux/files/xorgnv.html
[10:31] <cyber_cop> Admiral_Chicago: hi
[10:31] <fritz> i installed it from the basic pakage selection...have no ideea where it went to, nor the command to open it up...any1?
[10:32] <cyber_cop> upgrade packages saved folder ?? search
[10:32] <cyber_cop> bad english speak sorry
[10:33] <fritz> does any1 know how to find it?
[10:34] <Admiral_Chicago> the actual file is in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:35] <cyber_cop> Admiral_Chicago: thank you very much
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> fritz: did you alt+f2, dekorator
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> oh wait, no its in system settings
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> under window decorations
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> err appearance >> style
[10:36] <cyber_cop> Admiral_Chicago: upgrade packages aotu clean or manuel clean ??
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> err window decoration
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> upgraded packages auto replace files if they have to. so auto clean yes.
[10:49] <JiuJitsu> Hi. Can anybody help me install Limewire in Kubuntu?
[10:58] <luca> hi everyone
[10:59] <luca> does anyone know how to check if webcam drivers are installed and functioning?
[11:01] <ubuntu__> installation fails at the hard disk partitioning
[11:02] <ubuntu__> I have 256MB - 64 MB for video = 192 MB
[11:02] <ubuntu__> is this normal behavior because I don't meet the RAM criteria?
[11:03] <meuhlol> !webcam | luca
[11:03] <ubotu> luca: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:03] <ubuntu__> anyone?
[11:04] <meuhlol> ubuntu__: huh i didn't good understanding your question (im french)
[11:04] <ubuntu__> I'm installing Kubuntu feisty
[11:04] <meuhlol> ubuntu__: you try to partitionning your hard drive using a CD of kubuntu?
[11:04] <ubuntu__> with the kubuntu CD
[11:04] <meuhlol> okey
[11:04] <ubuntu__> so I'm using the "live CD" / "install cd" right now
[11:05] <luca> thanks, solved :)
[11:05] <luca> bye
[11:05] <ubuntu__> I ran the Install app in the desktop, but after it starts partitioning it gives me an error
[11:05] <meuhlol> if you had windows installed at your HDD before try installing kubuntu feisty? if yes, what was system files used on? NTFS?
[11:05] <ubuntu__> that it can't create partitions at hda
[11:05] <ubuntu__> I did a guided partitioning using the whole disk
[11:06] <ubuntu__> so no windows, I'm a no no for windows
[11:06] <ubuntu__> I come from another linux distro
[11:06] <ubuntu__> I wanted to try ubuntu
[11:06] <ubuntu__> *kubuntu
[11:06] <meuhlol> what is your disk partitionned on? NTFS, FAT32... before you try to install linux?
[11:06] <ubuntu__> ext3 and swap
[11:06] <JiuJitsu> Hi. Can anybody help me install Limewire in Kubuntu?
[11:07] <meuhlol> oh
[11:07] <ubuntu__> like 39 G for ext3 and 500 MB for swap
[11:07] <meuhlol> !limewire | JiuJitsu
[11:07] <ubotu> JiuJitsu: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[11:07] <ubuntu__> so it is not repartitioning my disk or what?
[11:07] <ubuntu__> I want it fully erased
[11:08] <pag> ubuntu__, there's quite a little of RAM you have there. personally I'd suggest alternate-install
[11:08] <zorglu_> q. what was the swappiness on edgy
[11:08] <meuhlol> ubuntu_ try to make 1giga for swap, make this partition at first, second one make one of 10giga in ext3 for system and what rests make in ext3 for /home
[11:09] <ubuntu__> meuhlol, should I think it can't make the partition right because of low RAM?
[11:09] <ubuntu__> I don't see how it is possible, but I don't dismiss the idea yet
[11:10] <zorglu_> meuhlol: 1gbyte of swap ? wow i hope he run very large apps
[11:10] <zorglu_> like meteo matrix :)
[11:10] <meuhlol> ubuntu__: i don't think that. Maybe have a bad sectors at your HDD... try to go to website of your hdd constructor and download an disk utility, mostly is an boot disket with format tools etc
[11:11] <meuhlol> zorglu_: i have 1gig of swap (same as my RAM lol)
[11:11] <zorglu_> meuhlol: ok how much is used right now ?
[11:12] <meuhlol> not much, but helful when play games xD
[11:12] <ubuntu__> uhm, I didn't like this "live cd" thing at all
[11:12] <meuhlol> ubuntu__: and before running an install from an live cd, just Check CD Integrity....
[11:12] <zorglu_> meuhlol: ok how much is that ? "free|grep Swap" and dump the result here
[11:12] <Ash-Fox> Darmok and Jalad, tangra in?
[11:13] <ubuntu__> it's better to just have a install cd, instead of a live cd, I have knoppix for that, I'm checking the alternate install and see if it helps
[11:13] <meuhlol> Swap:       996020      23108     972912
[11:13] <meuhlol> xD
[11:13] <zorglu_> meuhlol: so really not a lot :)
[11:14] <meuhlol> ubuntu__: kubuntu is always LiveCD + Install. Knoppix is faster for LiveCD mode but not good as installed. (K)ubuntu is lower as LiveCD but more good as installed.
[11:14] <meuhlol> zorglu_: now i don't play xD
[11:15] <JiuJitsu> ubotu,i already dowloaded the limewire and already extracted it. so wne to terminal window then typed runLime.sh. gotmessage "bash: runLime.sh: command not found". Any ideas?
[11:15] <ubuntu__> jiujitsu ubotu is the bot
[11:15] <meuhlol> JiuJitsu: ubotu is an bot xD
[11:15] <JiuJitsu> oh hehehehe
[11:15] <JiuJitsu> sorry
[11:16] <meuhlol> !ubotu | JiuJitsu
[11:16] <ubotu> JiuJitsu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:16] <JiuJitsu> Any ideas?
[11:16] <meuhlol> dunno JiuJitsu, never used limware
[11:16] <ubuntu__> mmm, so you can do some sort of pipe with ubotu
[11:16] <ubuntu__> interesting
[11:17] <meuhlol> !pipe | ubuntu__
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pipe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <Pooh22> Admiral_Chicago: I had a broken config file in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles
[11:17] <JiuJitsu> anybody used frost wire?
[11:17] <pag> JiuJitsu, open konsole; type: cd /path/where/you've/extarcted/limewire  and the  ./runLime.sh
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay were you able to fix?
[11:17] <zorglu_> ok i set the swapiness to 0 just in case :)
[11:17] <zorglu_> i can see my box is old when i see ubuntu default setup for twice the ram i got :)
[11:18] <ubuntu__> meuhlol, does the alternate CD skips the live cd part?
[11:18] <pag> !alternate | ubuntu__
[11:18] <ubotu> ubuntu__: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:18] <JiuJitsu> thanks pag
[11:18] <meuhlol> i suppose yes (never used it too :))
[11:18] <Pooh22> Admiral_Chicago: yes, rename the profile file fixed it
[11:18] <ubuntu__> nice
[11:18] <ubuntu__> I love the classical installs
[11:19] <ubuntu__> Fall la creacin del sistema de ficheros ext3 en la particin #1 de Maestro IDE1 (hda).
[11:20] <meuhlol> !es | ubuntu__
[11:20] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> good
[11:20] <ubuntu__> I don't think so, the spanish channels always have less people than english channels
[11:20] <ubuntu__> so less help :)
[11:21] <meuhlol> so speak english here :p
[11:21] <ubuntu__> ok, I'm using the english install
[11:21] <meuhlol> you can choose your language in the install cd
[11:21] <meuhlol> titanix88: plop! ^_^
[11:22] <ubuntu__> The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) failed.
[11:22] <JiuJitsu> pag, i typed "cd /home/jiujitsu/LimeWire" then I pressed enter...then I typed "runLim.sh" the enter...
[11:22] <titanix88> hello everyone.
[11:22] <JiuJitsu> Ami correct?
[11:22] <JiuJitsu> Am I correct?
[11:22] <ubuntu__> jiujitsu, no
[11:22] <pag> JiuJitsu, not "runLime.sh" but "./runLime.sh"
[11:23] <meuhlol> JiuJitsu: ./runLim.sh
[11:23] <JiuJitsu> ok thanks!
[11:23] <meuhlol> pag :p
[11:23] <ubuntu__> jiujitsu you need basic understanding on how bash works if you plan to use shell
[11:23] <ubuntu__> ./app runs app
[11:23] <ubuntu__> or use the directory /usr/bin/app
[11:23] <meuhlol> or "bash runLim.sh"
[11:24] <ubuntu__> yeah, you can always type more :P
[11:24] <ubuntu__> runLime.sh
[11:24] <ubuntu__> sh runLime.sh
[11:25] <zorglu_> ok lets write a script which write random path with . and .. :)
[11:25] <ubuntu__> or you can use nautilus/konqueror (windows-style) and click on the app
[11:25] <zorglu_> but all being canonized as . :)
[11:25] <JiuJitsu> pag, thanks!!!
[11:25] <JiuJitsu> i think i need java first
[11:25] <JiuJitsu> L(
[11:25] <JiuJitsu> :)
[11:25] <pag> !java | JiuJitsu
[11:25] <ubotu> JiuJitsu: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:25] <titanix88> JiuJitsu: i know a good bash tuto at www.tldp.org
[11:32] <HayaBusa> Hello. How can i find other IRC chanalles. ? im looking for photography groups to chat with if there is any
[11:33] <Skyrail> HayaBusa: #photogeeks is a photography based one I think
[11:33] <heiths> ;'
[11:34] <HayaBusa> thanks. how do you find them ? i don't see anything i can use on my tool bar to search for IRC
[11:35] <Skyrail> HayaBusa: I just typed /join #photography and it forwarded me there hehe, I just try whatever's available :)
[11:36] <HayaBusa> i used to be able to see a list of avalible servers with konversation but now i have no idea where that is
[11:36] <Skyrail> Press F5 I think
[11:37] <HayaBusa> Thanks. :)
[11:38] <Skyrail> :)
[11:39] <titanix88> hey guys read this link. it's about a package man which does not want u to be root it's interesting.i found it on digg: http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/
[11:43] <justin6891> titanix : thanks for the info
[11:44] <koolice> sup people
[11:44] <koolice> fuck you all
[11:44] <koolice> faggots
[11:44] <koolice> suck a dick
[11:44] <koolice> bitch ass fucking squares
[11:45] <tecnico> hi to all
[11:45] <tecnico> somebody can tell me if exist a visual mail server for ubuntu 7.04?
[11:45] <tecnico> thanks
[11:48] <^rooker> @tecnico: What do you mean by "visual mail server"?
[11:51] <justin6891> tecnico: do you mean, it must have a GUI ?
[11:51] <kraut> moin
[11:52] <^rooker> @tecnico: If you need a GUI, you could try "webmin" for configuring sendmail. It looks a bit overwhelming, but I got my mailserver up-and-running within less than 1 hour.
[11:57] <tecnico> ^rooker: ok thank you
[12:03] <tecnico> thanks to all bye
[12:04] <^rooker> has anyone managed to get pure-data extended running on a 64bit system?
[12:13] <stephen> yo
[12:13] <stephen> i got kubuntu working again
[12:13] <stephen> the disk was dirty
[12:14] <yeniklasor> Are we have backup all ubuntu's data with partition? Like Norton Ghost?
[12:14] <stephen> wha?
[12:28] <anryko> hmm long time ago i removed from kubuntu program, which could let me see the things on my desctop closer
[12:28] <anryko> i would like to install it back
[12:29] <anryko> but i dont remember the name of that thing... and it is not mensioned in my history file :)
[12:29] <anryko> could somebody tell me the name of that program?
[12:31] <pag> anryko, kmag ?
[12:34] <anryko> pag, thenx :)
[12:47] <stephen> hello
[12:47] <stephen> !resolution
[12:47] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:47] <stephen> im having aproblem
[12:47] <stephen> when i reboot my eth0 gets disabled
[12:50] <heiths> fdsa
[12:51] <stephen> !rosolution
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rosolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <stephen> !resolution
[12:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:53] <yeniklasor> dd backup utility gives me errors. Can someone teach me how to use it?
[12:54] <jpozlovsky> hi :-)
[12:57] <jpozlovsky> I have problem with connecting my Palm Zire to laptop with kubuntu through USB port. I need to discover which /dev device it uses? Here is log from dmesg:
[12:57] <jpozlovsky> [10092.136000]  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[12:57] <jpozlovsky> [10092.308000]  usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[12:59] <doddi> Is there anyone who can be so kind to tell me how I can see which program is using the port 80, I'm trying to start XAMPP and something is blocking the webserver. I have tried to find everywhere about how I can see which processes take which port. Any help would be really appricated, thank you.
[12:59] <stdin> doddi: sudo netstat -lp
[01:02] <doddi> thank you very much
[01:07] <xav__> hello, can we send me a link for ubuntufr
[01:08] <xav__> can you*
[01:08] <grul> !fr | xav__
[01:08] <ubotu> xav__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:08] <xav__> thx
[01:18] <aleksanteri> hey
[01:19] <aleksanteri> got a little hardware related problem: how can i change the sequence where HDD:s are loaded, so that sda0 becomes sda1 and sda1 becomes sda0>
[01:19] <aleksanteri> ?
[01:22] <kharloss> hi there. I want to use ubunut as router . i need to use 2 ISP , if one of them i falling down, i need other conection for backup. can i do it ? how ? any external link ? thanks in advance .
[01:27] <stephen> yo yo yo
[01:27] <stephen> sup all
[01:27] <kuwanger> Anyone here know the status of the mach64 driver?  Specifically, some time ago (back in 2003 or 2004, I think), it was discovered that there was a security vulnerability in the mach64 drm/dri drivers.
[01:28] <kuwanger> Far as I can tell from the dri wiki on freedesktop.org, those issues were fixed.  However, they were fixed long enough ago that the changes should be in the latest Xorg (7.2) and kernel.  So, I'm still rather stumped why there doesn't seem to be a mach64 drm source file in the kernel source or if there's some other source for the mach64.ko file.
[01:29] <stdin> aleksanteri: that's done via the order they are connected on the cable. tho you may be able to get grub to do it, with something like "map (hd0) (hd1)" and "map (hd1) (hd0)"
[01:30] <aleksanteri> hmm
[01:30] <stdin> kharloss: maybe look at this
[01:30] <stdin>  kharloss http://tinyurl.com/2r3uws
[01:31] <kharloss> i can`t acces this url
[01:31] <stdin> kharloss: bad link, http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/howto/lanconnect/router/linux.htm
[01:31] <kharloss> Forbidden
[01:32] <kharloss> i have 2 conections . one using a router --> UTP cable   and a ISDN conection
[01:33] <stdin> kharloss: you just need to look at the iptables rules
[01:34] <stdin> kharloss: the application firestarter can help too, lets you set it up quite easily.
[01:34] <kharloss> all i need is a failover router .
[01:36] <Dragon_1212> yo i need help does anyone here have AIM so i can talk to em there?
[01:36] <Dragon_1212> please
[01:36] <stdin> Dragon_1212: what's wrong with here?
[01:36] <Dragon_1212> well kinda get frustrating here
[01:36] <Dragon_1212> no one listens to me
[01:36] <Dragon_1212> idk why
[01:36] <stdin> I just did :)
[01:36] <Dragon_1212> lol ok
[01:37] <Dragon_1212> anyway my problem is
[01:37] <Miltos> hi ppl:-)
[01:37] <Dragon_1212> i just got a full game and downloaded it online its called WOLFENSTEIN ENEMY TERRITORY and it is a .RUN file wht do i do to open it and get it to run?
[01:38] <kuwanger> Dragon_1212: I thought that was in the database.
[01:39] <Dragon_1212> what was???
[01:39] <stdin> Dragon_1212: easy :) a .run file is just a shell script with a inbuilt archive. you should just be able to right click it, go in to properties and set is as executable
[01:39] <Dragon_1212> oh ok lemme try
[01:39] <kuwanger> Dragon_1212: Enemy Territory
[01:39] <Miltos> i can not eject the cd from the menu ...i've got the message "only root can umount..." any help? or where to look for info?
[01:39] <Dragon_1212> OMG TY TY TYTY TYTYTYT
[01:40] <Dragon_1212> THANK YOU
[01:40] <Dragon_1212> I LOVE U
[01:40] <stdin> Dragon_1212: best was to run them, I find, is to open konsole, cd to the directory it's in (eg: cd Desktop), then run it like "./finename.run"
[01:40] <kuwanger> Hmm..guess not.
[01:41] <stdin> Miltos: seems it was mounted as root?? anyway, open konsole and type in "sudo eject"
[01:48] <Miltos> stdin: sudo eject worked! but it doesn't work within the right click menu...what's should i do?
[01:48] <GameOver> hi, im trying to install kubuntu 7.04 on to my old laptop, a hp ominbook 4150 b. it seems to be taking forever to get past step4-prepare disk space, is it meant to take a while, as theres no activity
[01:48] <stdin> Miltos: how did you mount the cd ?
[01:49] <Miltos> stdin: the cd was mounted automatically by kubuntu...
[01:49] <stdin> hmm
[01:49] <stdin> should work then
[01:51] <GameOver> anyone?
[01:51] <stdin> Took about 40mins to install feisty from the desktop cd for me
[01:52] <stdin> GameOver: the GUI installer can be a bit buggy on some hardware. If it fails you can always try the alternate cd, it's always worked for me
[01:52] <BluesKaj> yup, that's about right
[01:52] <GameOver> i just seem to be hanged on the partition screen
[01:52] <Yz85Racer> Hey
[01:53] <GameOver> the cursor moves and everything but nothings getting done
[01:53] <BluesKaj> prepartitioning is usually the best way
[01:53] <Yz85Racer> Can someone help me?
[01:53] <GameOver> alternate cd?
[01:53] <BluesKaj> ask! | Yz85Racer
[01:53] <Yz85Racer> I'm new to linux, and how do you install shell scripts?
[01:54] <Yz85Racer> I wanna install gAIM, and it says its for unix... When it doesn't say linux download, so I decided to get aMSN. And all it is a script that I need to install some how o.0
[01:54] <GameOver> im a newbie so you'll have 2 bear with me
[01:54] <stdin> GameOver: the alterate cd is a text install mode, it has more advanced features but it installs the same thing: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/
[01:54] <stdin> GameOver: just choose the Alternate one
[01:55] <stdin> Yz85Racer: install gaim from Adept
[01:55] <Dragnslcr> Yz85Racer- you can install Gaim from the repository
[01:55] <Yz85Racer> I've only been on linux for an hour
[01:55] <Yz85Racer> So bare with me
[01:55] <Yz85Racer> :(
[01:55] <stdin> Yz85Racer: it's ok, you're learning :)
[01:55] <Yz85Racer> :P
[01:55] <stdin> ubotu: ping
[01:55] <ubotu> pong
[01:56] <Yz85Racer> stdin: How do I install with Adept?
[01:57] <GameOver> lol atleast u got yours installed, ive had rotten luck with getting a linux installation working, i tried mandriva, tinyme, minime, pclinuxos...the only one i had luck with is damnsmall but i wanted a bit more so thought id try this
[01:57] <tdserver> kubuntu FTW =)
[01:57] <stdin> Yz85Racer: open the Adept Package Manager, from KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager
[01:57] <Dragnslcr> Bah, stdin's too fast for me
[01:57] <Yz85Racer> Done
[01:57] <stdin> Yz85Racer: in there search for "gaim"
[01:58] <Yz85Racer> Oh
[01:58] <Yz85Racer> I see
[01:58] <Yz85Racer> That's hell
[01:58] <Yz85Racer> (good)
[01:58] <Yz85Racer> Another reason why kubuntu owns :P
[01:58] <stdin> we like package managers :)
[01:58] <Dragnslcr> Adept > *
[01:58] <stdin> easier than google :)
[01:58] <tdserver> :P true that
[01:58] <tdserver> karoo sux though!!
[01:58] <kuwanger> Is there any generic music player for kubuntu that will read from 7zip, zip, and rar archives?
[01:59] <stdin> kuwanger: media players generally don't read compressed archives
[01:59] <GameOver> dont u have to uncompress to play music files?
[01:59] <Yz85Racer> Ohk, is there a way to get files off my windows drive? I have Kubuntu partitioned, but I don't have a flash drive cd etc, so can I access it from Linux? I need to get some stuff of it..?
[02:00] <stdin> !ntfs
[02:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:00] <Yz85Racer> ?
[02:00] <stdin> Yz85Racer: follow that link
[02:00] <Yz85Racer> ohk thanks guuys
[02:00] <BluesKaj> Yz85Racer, there's a gaim option in kopete
[02:00] <Yz85Racer> guys*
[02:00] <hilaryx> Can someone help me out please :(
[02:01] <stdin> Yz85Racer: btw, ubotu is a bot, anything we say that start with a "!" meas we want the bot to say something
[02:01] <stdin> !ask | hilaryx
[02:01] <ubotu> hilaryx: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:01] <kuwanger> stdin: Well, I'm not talking about media players exactly.  I know mikmod and xmplay (windows-only) each support reading from archives; the latter has an archiver reader plugin interface.
[02:01] <Yz85Racer> I see
[02:01] <Yz85Racer> thanks
[02:01] <tdserver> !virtualbox
[02:01] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[02:02] <kuwanger> stdin: I recall reading about one xmms fork working to add more plugin interfaces.
[02:02] <BluesKaj> kuwanger, you have to decompress the z7 files first, then they're playable
[02:02] <tdserver> !tap
[02:02] <tdserver> !bridge
[02:02] <tdserver> :(
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bridge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <stdin> kuwanger: I don't know of one, but search on sourceforge, maybe one there
[02:02] <hilaryx> ok ubotu :P Im trying to upgrade some packages in adept manager but when i try to, it fails saying that the commit would cause a break (something like that) and when i check the dpkg run it says dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `root' in statoverride file
[02:02] <hilaryx> anyone know how to fix it?
[02:03] <kuwanger> BluesKaj: Um, I know I *can* decompress the archive first.  Like I said, I'm looking for a music player where I don't need to do that.
[02:03] <tdserver> apt-get install -f
[02:03] <stdin> hilaryx: open a konsole, we need to see what the real error is. type in "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and post errors to pastebin
[02:03] <stdin> !pastebin
[02:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:04] <hilaryx> ok :)
[02:04] <BluesKaj> kuwanger, heh good luck ...don't think there's any such animal
[02:04] <Yz85Racer> Sorry guys, but, that site you gave me.. All I need to do is just get like 3 files from it...
[02:04] <stdin> Yz85Racer: it should tell you how to mount your windoes partition, so you can get files off it
[02:05] <kuwanger> BluesKaj: There exists one, xmplay.  But as I was saying, it's for Windows.
[02:06] <stdin> Yz85Racer: do you want to have it always mount at startup, or just for now?
[02:06] <BluesKaj> Yz85Racer, if yer looking for gaim, check the k-menu/internet /kopete ..it does gaim
[02:06] <stdin> BluesKaj: no, we're on to mounting a windows partition now
[02:07] <hilaryx> http://pastebin.ca/623171
[02:07] <BluesKaj> ok, sorry, just trying to save him some space
[02:07] <BluesKaj> stdin, :)
[02:07] <Yz85Racer> stdin: Sorry about the dumb questions, but where would I type:
[02:07] <Yz85Racer> cd
[02:07] <Yz85Racer> wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter
[02:08] <stdin> Yz85Racer: in the console, you open it by going to Kmenu -> System -> Konsole
[02:08] <stdin> it's like the DOS shell in win
[02:09] <stdin> except much more powerful
[02:09] <Yz85Racer> i see
[02:09] <hilaryx> anyone know how to fix my error in the pastebin url posted before then? (http://pastebin.ca/623171) :)
[02:10] <stdin> hilaryx: pastebin.ca takes forever to load here, use http:/pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic).ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:10] <stdin> hilaryx: use that one
[02:10] <hilaryx> ok sorry :( ill do that
[02:11] <hilaryx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30211/ try that :)
[02:11] <Yz85Racer> Argh
[02:11] <Yz85Racer> wtf
[02:11] <Yz85Racer> Ignoring /dev/hda1 - already in /etc/fstab
[02:11] <Yz85Racer> No usable windows/mac partitions found
[02:12] <stdin> Yz85Racer: ahh, check in /media/hda1
[02:12] <Yz85Racer> Is there like explorer on windows?
[02:13] <stdin> hilaryx: konqueror is that
[02:13] <FirefighterBlu3> what init.d process(es) and kde processes need to be restarted when knetworkmanager takes it's usual s**t?  knm. has alzheimers and forgets to a) renew IP when a link comes up and b) totally forgets there are network interfaces installed
[02:13] <Yz85Racer> ohhh
[02:13] <Yz85Racer> ty
[02:13] <Yz85Racer> ty
[02:13] <stdin> hilaryx: what does "cat /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride" show?
[02:14] <hilaryx> ill check :) hold on
[02:14] <hilaryx> hplip root 755 /var/run/hplip
[02:14] <hilaryx> just shows that
[02:15] <stdin> hilaryx: and "grep root /etc/group" shows "root:x:0:" ?
[02:16] <Yz85Racer> ohk, one more quick question
[02:16] <Yz85Racer> is amarok
[02:16] <Yz85Racer> capable to play .mp3 files
[02:16] <Yz85Racer> from my windows drive?
[02:16] <hilaryx> it just comes up with a lil triangle on a new line, line one of these >
[02:17] <hilaryx> unless im not entering the command right?
[02:17] <stdin> Yz85Racer: yes, when you try to play one it should tell you it can't play it, then insall the right codec. then you just close and reopen alarok and it'll work
[02:17] <stdin> hilaryx: don't quote it, press Ctrl+C to get back
[02:17] <stdin> hilaryx: just type in: grep root /etc/group
[02:18] <hilaryx> does nothing, just brings me back to the <name>@<name>-desktop thing :)
[02:18] <stdin> ahh, ok
[02:19] <stdin> that's strange
[02:19] <hilaryx> why? :(
[02:19] <stdin> hilaryx: can you post what this command shows: ls -ld /bin
[02:19] <hilaryx> can do :)
[02:20] <hilaryx> drwxr-xr-x 2 root 0 4096 2007-04-21 12:27 /bin
[02:20] <hilaryx> but the /bin is in blue text :S is that normal?
[02:20] <stdin> yeah
[02:20] <hilaryx> phew :)
[02:20] <hilaryx> (new to linux)
[02:20] <stdin> the thing I'm looking at is the "root 0" part
[02:20] <stdin> it should reed "root root"
[02:21] <hilaryx> so how do i sort that out?
[02:21] <stephen> woot i just reinstalled kubuntu no problems now
[02:21] <stephen> now i just need to get the apps i had before :O
[02:22] <stdin> hilaryx: try the command "sudo addgroup --system --gid 0 root"
[02:22] <stephen> stdin i found out the problem
[02:22] <stephen> i had a dirty disk, so i cleaned it and it installed fine
[02:22] <hilaryx> ok it says Adding group root (GID 0) ... Done
[02:23] <stdin> stephen: you could have made a list of all install packages before with "dpkg --get-selections > filename", then put that on a floppy or something
[02:23] <stephen> :(
[02:23] <stdin> hilaryx: good :) now try to update again
[02:23] <hilaryx> ok :D
[02:24] <hilaryx> i think youve got it stdin
[02:25] <stdin> good :) I just don't know why the root group was removed :p
[02:25] <stephen> stdin: why does it say there is no mixer?
[02:25] <stephen> for the audio
[02:25] <stdin> stephen: what sound card?
[02:25] <stephen> ATi
[02:25] <stephen> lol
[02:25] <stdin> eww
[02:25] <stephen> its the crappified
[02:25] <stephen> soundcard
[02:26] <stephen> the video doesnt work proper either
[02:26] <stephen> i cant play open arena :(
[02:26] <stephen> i told you the other day lol
[02:26] <Yz85Racer> grr
[02:26] <Yz85Racer> i go to open a .mp3 in amarok
[02:26] <Yz85Racer> and it freezes
[02:26] <stdin> stephen: try "sudo modprobe snd-atiixp"
[02:27] <stdin> Yz85Racer: if you want you can close amarok and I'll tell you the quick way to install the codec
[02:27] <stephen> i did that stdin
[02:27] <hilaryx> yeah youve got it :) thank you stdin (hugs) :D have a nice day :)
[02:27] <Yz85Racer> oh thanks stdin
[02:27] <stdin> hilaryx: no problem :)
[02:28] <stephen> stdin: what is it sposed to say?
[02:28] <stdin> Yz85Racer: just open konsole (in KMenu -> System -> Konsole" and type in this: sudo apt-get install libexine-extracodecs
[02:28] <stdin> stephen: nothing, if it worked
[02:28] <stephen> it didnt say anything :)
[02:29] <stephen> so now what?
[02:29] <stephen> lol
[02:29] <stdin> Yz85Racer: then you type in your password and hit enter
[02:29] <stdin> stephen: that, I think, is the driver for the card you have
[02:29] <stdin> and you just loaded it
[02:29] <Yz85Racer> E: Couldn't find package libexine-extracodecs
[02:29] <stephen> is that for the sound or video?
[02:30] <stdin> sound
[02:30] <stephen> still no mixer :(
[02:30] <Yz85Racer> stdin: E: Couldn't find package libexine-extracodecs
[02:30] <stdin> Yz85Racer: opps, no e in xine, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[02:30] <Yz85Racer> k
[02:30] <Yz85Racer> ty
[02:31] <stdin> stephen: try looking on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound
[02:31] <Yz85Racer> omg, thanks, so, much stdin.
[02:31] <stdin> stephen: and lots of sound people in #alsa :)
[02:31] <stdin> Yz85Racer: no problem :)
[02:32] <stephen> ty stdin
[02:32] <stephen> xx
[02:32] <stephen> #alsa
[02:32] <stephen> oops
[02:34] <mimik> is there an easier way to add servers to koversation, other than typing em in?
[02:35] <stdin> mimik: I think I heard something could do it, tho I can't remember. I'd ask in #konversation
[02:35] <mimik> thanks
[02:35] <BluesKaj> mimik , there's a script i found in google that downloads and install servers, but i couldn't make it work
[02:36] <RayGhannam> hello, was trying to install apache
[02:39] <RayGhannam> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30213/
[02:39] <RayGhannam> whats wrong?
[02:42] <RayGhannam> can anyone help?
[02:45] <mash_> anyone know how to have the "kde" login screen and not the gnome one ? kdm I think.. google turns up a lot of results but cant see how to set it.
[02:45] <toti_> Getting Error while trying to copy by scp:
[02:45] <toti_> toti@toti-laptop:~$ scp toti@192.168.1.29:/media/daten/Musik/"Sum 41"/"Underclass Hero" toti@192.168.1.3:/media/daten/Musik
[02:45] <toti_> toti@192.168.1.29's password:
[02:45] <toti_> Permission denied, please try again.
[02:46] <toti_> Any Ideas?
[02:46] <FirefighterBlu3> you should run kdm instead of gdm
[02:46] <FirefighterBlu3> toti, wrong password?
[02:46] <toti_> It can't be wrong
[02:47] <RayGhannam> hello I was trying to install apache, but I got errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30213/
[02:48] <FirefighterBlu3> that error isn't descriptive rayghannam
[02:48] <RayGhannam> well, thats what I got
[02:49] <mash_> anyone ?
[02:50] <RayGhannam> FirefighterBlu3: is there anything to do so I can show you more?
[02:51] <genii> mash_ Yes, it's kdm
[02:52] <FirefighterBlu3> rayghannam, have you tried using a more modern version of apache?  such as apache 2.2.3?
[02:53] <RayGhannam> FirefighterBlu3: nopes I just did the "sudo apt-get install apache"
[02:54] <FirefighterBlu3> try apache2
[02:55] <RayGhannam> hmm
[02:56] <RayGhannam> !LAMP
[02:56] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:56] <RayGhannam> that will install all of the apache mysql and php ?
[02:56] <RayGhannam> :D
[02:57] <genii> RayGhannam: The LAMP install has no gui, just so you know
[02:58] <RayGhannam> what is the qui ?
[02:58] <RayGhannam> !gui
[02:58] <ubotu> The graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)
[02:59] <RayGhannam> I dont need a graphical interface
[02:59] <RayGhannam> I can pico the conf file
[03:02] <genii> RayGhannam: Good. Better not to have X on a machine that will be a server anyhow
[03:03] <RayGhannam> hmm
[03:03] <RayGhannam> if I got X so this LAMP cann't be installed?
[03:04] <Novell> X can be installed, but running it on a server is a waste of resources
[03:04] <genii> RayGhannam: Well, usually you would install frim new the LAMP server off the alternate CD
[03:04] <genii> which would by default have no X
[03:04] <RayGhannam> hmm
[03:05] <genii> then you administer by ssh into it or so on
[03:06] <genii> work calls, AFK 3-5 mins
[03:07] <RayGhannam> genii: look I wanna install it on my PC coz I'm having some php courses I wanna test them on my PC, I dont have other PC right now
[03:07] <RayGhannam> is that possible?
[03:07] <pag> RayGhannam, yup.
[03:08] <RayGhannam> okey thanks
[03:08] <pag> RayGhannam, I think genii meant, that if you want to run public webserver, then you should consider running it without X
[03:09] <RayGhannam> pag: okey
[03:09] <RayGhannam> one more thing
[03:09] <BluesKaj> RayGhannam, try this site : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:09] <RayGhannam>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30215/
[03:09] <RayGhannam> which one to choose ?
[03:09] <BluesKaj> it really does work
[03:10] <RayGhannam> BluesKaj: I'm on that site, but I dont know which apache2 package I should use
[03:10] <BluesKaj> just do the sudo taskel
[03:10] <RayGhannam> I did
[03:10] <RayGhannam> and I choosed the LAMP server
[03:10] <BluesKaj> it will choose the right setup for your pc
[03:11] <stephen> !pastebin
[03:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:11] <RayGhannam> but if I dont know what all this apache2-mpm-worker and the others
[03:15] <stephen> BluesKaj:  how do i setup a dual boot?
[03:15] <Huas> can  someone help me? when i press the button to shut off the linux os everything unloads and then the screen just goes blank and i have to hold in the powerbutton for like 10seconds to really shut it off. how do i fix so it shuts off automatically?
[03:16] <BluesKaj> RayGhannam, type http://localhost in your browser
[03:16] <genii> RayGhannam: Back :) Normally, you would have a server with no X, then use another box to administer it from. If you are just setting up a learning machine, then you can of course install the separate items like Mysql apache and PHP of course. Or you can do the LAMP install, then put X by sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:17] <BluesKaj> stephen, do you have windows installed ?
[03:17] <genii> RayGhannam: Since it seems to be giving grief installing the separate packages, you may be better off to do the LAMP/ kubuntu-desktop way
[03:18] <Huas> hello? anyone?
[03:18] <BluesKaj> !ask | Huas
[03:18] <ubotu> Huas: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:18] <RayGhannam> okey
[03:19] <Huas> !answer | BlueKaj
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about answer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <Huas> ubotu: Answer the question or say nothing at all. :)
[03:19] <stephen> wtf huas
[03:19] <pag> Huas, ubotu's just a bot, don't blame him :)
[03:20] <Huas> pag so you know how to fix the ACPI issues i have?
[03:21] <pag> Huas, not really... you could try setting "noacpi" as boot option, but I'm not sure if that helps (or to be completly honest, I'm not even sure if thats the right option)
[03:21] <Huas> k
[03:22] <genii> Huas This may be a BIOS setting something like Power Button = Off/Hibernate      or so
[03:23] <BluesKaj> what ACPI issues Huas , you haven't told ua what they are ?
[03:23] <genii> Huas On some older machines you need to put as kernel option acpi=force to make it turn off properly
[03:24] <stephen> anyone: how do i have a dual boot if i have installed linux first?
[03:24] <pag> stephen, install windows and recover you grub
[03:24] <stephen> how would i recover grub?
 it is most def not a BIOS issue because it worked perfectly fine with windows xp
 ok were do i put in that setting?
[03:26] <stephen> !grub
[03:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:26] <genii> Huas You would edit with sudo privelege the file /boot/grub/menu.lst  and find the line which loads your default kernel. It usually has at the end something like quiet spash   as options. then just add the acpi=force  part and save
[03:27] <genii> Huas To edit the file, run   kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:28] <BluesKaj> stephen, you can also DL and burn SuperGrub Disk ...it's a bootable cd that can fix the booloaders in both windows and linux
[03:28] <BluesKaj> bootloaders
 where in menu.lst?
[03:29] <Huas> btw its 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[03:30] <BluesKaj> stephen, are you gonna install windows to play games like open arena ?
[03:30] <BluesKaj> Huas, this kubuntu not ubuntu here : hence we use kate
[03:31] <Huas> BleuKaj yeh yeh its okej...
[03:31] <pag> Huas, also: don't launch GUI apps (such as gedid) with sudo
[03:31] <genii> Huas There is usually a few entries of different kernels. the first entry is the default one (usually). At the end of the line it will have as i said, the options  quiet splash
[03:31] <BluesKaj> hehe :)
[03:31] <pag> !gksudo | Huas
[03:31] <ubotu> Huas: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[03:31] <genii> Pag Since it's Kubuntu channel, not gksudo but kdesu
[03:32] <stephen> BluesKaj: no i need it for sound support
[03:32] <pag> genii, yup. Just somehow assosiated gedit with gksudp. sorry :)
[03:32] <genii> Huas If you are still unsure where to edit, then copy and paste the file to the pastebin website, I will look and make changes then you can copy and paste the new one back in.
[03:33] <Huas> genii i find many 'quiet splash' in menu.lst... what one should i take?
[03:33] <genii> Huas The first one nearer to the top of the file is the one that loads normally
[03:33] <BluesKaj> stephen, sound support?
[03:33] <orgasmatron> anybody with win4lin installed and running on ubuntu 7.04???
[03:34] <pag> Huas, something like " # defoptions=quiet splash "
[03:34] <genii> Yes, those are globals
[03:35] <BluesKaj> stephen, sound support in kubuntu is every bit as good as or better than windows
[03:35] <stephen> but its too hard to setup
 ok i found it... should i do like this now --->   # defoptions=acpi=force       ?
[03:35] <BluesKaj> what' yer prob?
[03:35] <stephen> my ATI sound card is not working in linux
[03:35] <BluesKaj> ac '97
[03:35] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:36] <orgasmatron> btw i have a laptop hp pavilion zv5365ea with ATI ixp and all work from default, even 3D...
[03:36] <pag> Huas, you probablu shouldn't remove quiet splash
[03:36] <genii> Huas remove the # at the beginning, then go to the end and ADD the acpi=force  part
[03:36] <BluesKaj> prolly a realtek, stephen
[03:36] <pag> genii, what?!
[03:36] <stephen> its an ATI i think
[03:36] <pag> genii, those lines shouldn't be uncommented
[03:36] <stephen> my ethernet is a realtek
[03:36] <genii> pag Yes, otherwise it is commented out and has no effect.
[03:36] <Huas> defoptions=acpi=force ?
[03:36] <Huas> like this
[03:37] <BluesKaj> stephen, what sound drivers were you using in windows ?
[03:37] <stephen> that AC97 thing
[03:37] <pag> genii, just above those lines: " ## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs "
[03:37] <genii> Huas more like defoptions=quiet splash acpi=force
[03:38] <Huas> ok thanks mate
[03:38] <genii> pag Ah, forgot, sorry :) Huas- Pag is right do not remove the # at beginning
[03:38] <Huas> ok
[03:38] <genii> But otherwise just as above
[03:38] <Huas> ok here we go im going to try now. niggaz
[03:38] <BluesKaj> ok stephen,' lspci ' in the konsole and post the output in pastebin
[03:38] <Huas> :D
[03:38] <pag> Huas, you'll have to update grub first
[03:39] <Huas> pag 'sudo update grub' ?
[03:39] <pag> Huas, sudo update-grub
[03:39] <Huas> thnkx mate
[03:39] <genii> Huas you had the right idea :)
[03:39] <Huas> ok niggaz here we go
[03:39] <Huas> power off
[03:39] <Huas> -
[03:40] <genii> Huas it should take effect next time you boot
[03:40] <stephen> BluesKaj: Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 80)
[03:41] <BluesKaj> stephen,  that's exactly the same audio card i have ...mine is working well
[03:42] <stephen> :(
[03:42] <stephen> could it be a wrong bios?
[03:42] <BluesKaj> ok stephen, read this first http://alsa.opensrc.org/Main_Page
[03:44] <Huas> it did not work yall
[03:44] <Huas> :(
[03:45] <pag> Huas, it should work only from now on  (if it works)
[03:45] <stephen> BluesKaj:    did yours work straight away?
[03:45] <pag> Huas, since only now you are booted to the kernel with those options given earlier
[03:45] <BluesKaj> no, i had to set it up
 oh rly? ok lets try again then
[03:45] <Huas> :)
[03:46] <BluesKaj> ok, stephen lets go thru some steps , it mav be very simple to get your sound up and running
[03:48] <BluesKaj> stephen, k-menu/system settings/sound system/hardware/select audio device/advanced linux sound architecture
[03:48] <user_> Hi all. Google did not help me this time. :( I am customizing a Kubuntu 7.04 (KDE 3.5.6) Live CD. And I would like to plave a few documents, and links on the user's desktop. Could anybody point me in the direction how to do this?
[03:49] <Huas> lol u god damn niggaz. IT WORKED!!! :D
[03:49] <genii> Huas Good :)
[03:50] <Huas> thanks for the help genii
[03:50] <Huas> really apreciate it...
[03:50] <stephen> BluesKaj: its restarting sound system but keeps going back to 0%
[03:50] <genii> Huas Well, pass it on. and maybe thank pag too :)
[03:50] <Huas> oh sure lets not forget that nigga... thankx pag
[03:50] <BluesKaj> stephen, what is ?
[03:51] <Huas> im on linux to set up a porno server
[03:51] <Huas> :P
[03:51] <genii> tmi
[03:51] <pag> Huas, you're welcome.
[03:51] <Huas> ok back to samba
[03:51] <stephen> when i clicked apply BluesKaj
[03:51] <stephen> is says restarting sound system in the place you told me to go
[03:53] <BluesKaj> stephen, ok close it then and go back check what the default setting is
[03:54] <stephen> brb gotta logg off and on
[03:56] <MaTiAz> Hmm, does Kubuntu support the wired Xbox 360 gamepad by default?
[03:57] <stephen> back
[03:59] <BluesKaj> stephen, you din't have to relogin
[04:04] <BluesKaj> MaTiAz,http://techgage.com/article/game_emulation_in_linux/2
[04:04] <stephen> BluesKaj: te computer was going crazy
[04:04] <stephen> there was error messages every 3-4 seconds
[04:05] <BluesKaj> what error message ?
[04:08] <eric__> Where could I get supoort for kbfx? I'm trying to set it up with kooldock
[04:08] <eric__> *support
[04:09] <wolferine> ask away
[04:10] <eric__> I'm trying to figure out how to launch it from the kooldock, but it gives me an error
[04:10] <eric__> saying it couldn't find the executable
[04:10] <wolferine> how about you post the error
[04:10] <praecox> hey, in which kubuntu package can I find auth basic for Apache?
[04:10] <wolferine> rather than just talk about what it says/doesnt say
[04:11] <eric__> KDEInit could not launch 'KBFX'.:
[04:11] <eric__> Could not find 'KBFXInterface' executable.
[04:12] <wolferine> in a shell?
[04:12] <genii> praecox: If you do: apt-cache search apache|grep auth you may find some candidates
[04:12] <stephen> BluesKaj: about how a sound program had crashe (i tried to change the sound driver to something other than alsa)
[04:12] <praecox> genii, I already did this.
[04:13] <praecox> genii, but found mod-auth isn't what I'm looking for.
[04:15] <genii> praecox: If just http auth I think you make an entry to (what used to be) httpd.conf or apache2.conf file with an auth entry for whatever alias/directory then create a htpasswd for whatever user
[04:16] <genii> It's been a while since i used that way
[04:17] <BluesKaj> stephen, alsa is the way to go
[04:17] <vickytyla> my kubuntu computer can not get to the Internet and I can not figure out why, the link light on the network card is lit but I can not ping the gateway
[04:17] <wladimir> is there any placeholde rin kde available, which represent the standard application for a fileextension?
[04:18] <stephen> vicky i think i know
[04:18] <stephen> i had this happen to me earlier
[04:18] <BluesKaj> stephen , in konsole ' alsamixer '
[04:18] <l_r> hello
[04:18] <vickytyla> how did you fix it?
[04:18] <stephen> vicky: ifconfig eth0 up
[04:18] <l_r> is there any documentation about building debs from some source code? thanks
[04:19] <stephen> and another command
[04:19] <vickytyla> brb
[04:19] <pag> l_r, for personal use or for public sharing  (since the latter should be done more careful)
[04:20] <l_r> pag, public sharing
[04:20] <genii> l_r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[04:20] <l_r> thanks
[04:20] <stephen> Vicky: after that sudo dhclient eth0
[04:21] <BluesKaj> stephen, use the letter M to unmute any inputs and outputs so they have 00 instead of MM in the box by the slider controls ...iec 958 , Master, Line PCM should all be at at 67 -75 or so
[04:21] <pag> l_r, you might also wish to ask around in #ubuntu-motu  (hope I got the channel right)
[04:21] <sfire> I just ordered a new machine and it comes with a 256MB ATI Radeon X1300 Pro... That will work with kubuntu right?
[04:22] <stephen> BluesKaj: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[04:23] <genii> sfire You may need to do some tweaking to the xorg.conf files, ATI cards are a bit fussy with linux in general. But should be OK
[04:23] <sfire> yay
[04:23] <sfire> thanks genii :)
[04:23] <BluesKaj> check adept or synaptic for alsa , stephen
[04:23] <genii> sfire np
[04:23] <sfire> got a awesome deal on dells outlet site on a PC but you don't get to pick stuff buying that way
[04:24] <genii> sfire I thought they were shipping the ubuntu based ones already
[04:24] <sfire> yea... those PCs blow
[04:24] <sfire> I wanted some power
[04:24] <genii> heh
[04:25] <genii> sfire The main gotchya with Dell is the wifi cards, usually a Broadcom. they can be made to work tho
[04:25] <sfire> it didn't come with one... I have one though that is a atheros chipset :)
[04:25] <sfire> doesn't need any drivers in linux :)
[04:25] <BluesKaj> sfire , i hate to rain on yer parade but ATI isn't the best graphics choice for linux :(
[04:25] <genii> sfire Perfect
[04:25] <vickytyla> unfortunately all I still get is destination unreachable
[04:25] <sfire> yea... I know ATI blows... I just wondered if I could make it limp along for a while
[04:26] <genii> BluesKaj: I agree if you have a choice, NVidia would be preferable.
[04:26] <ksivaji> i have 256Mb ram still free -m show only 186Mb why ?
[04:26] <BluesKaj> sfire , the good news is yes you can :)
[04:26] <ksivaji> BluesKaj hi
[04:26] <sfire> ksivaji: shared video ram?
[04:26] <ksivaji> sfire what do you mean?
[04:26] <kerric> hi all, i have a problem with configurating compiz, compiz is running in a rather proper way, but those icons with closing windows had disapeared
[04:26] <BluesKaj> hi ksivaji
[04:27] <sfire> ksivaji: I'm betting your machine has intergrated video that uses the system ram
[04:27] <wladimir> are there any equvalent programs for gnome-open?
[04:27] <kerric> can any one help ?
[04:27] <sfire> ksivaji: the 64megs can be accounted for there
[04:27] <ksivaji> sfire is it good or bad ?
[04:28] <sfire> well... depends on how you look at it... good for PC cost... Bad for performance
[04:28] <sfire> since your video has to fight with system for ram
[04:29] <genii> ksivaji: Since you still have 186 free I would not worry much about it.
[04:29] <sfire> ksivaji: if you want that 64 megs of ram back you would have to get a "real" video card
[04:29] <sfire> something with built in ram
[04:29] <ksivaji> ho
[04:29] <sfire> or you could just upgrade the system ram a lil
[04:29] <vickytyla> gosh stephan that worked you are awesome thanks!
[04:29] <stephen> lol
[04:29] <stephen> i think you need to reinstall
[04:30] <stephen> because when i had this problem it came back after i rebooted
[04:30] <kerric> could someone help me with compiz, pls ?
[04:30] <genii> ksivaji: If you had less than 32Mb free it might be cause for concern
[04:30] <ksivaji> genii i have only 2mb free
[04:30] <Ind[y] > Where is the dhclient init script located?
[04:30] <Ind[y] > I want it, because I want to add a flag to dhclient.
[04:31] <genii> ksivaji: Well, I would suggest then to enter your BIOS and set the memory allocated to shared (video card) to something like 8 or 16 Mb then instead of 64
[04:31] <ksivaji> total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[04:31] <ksivaji> Mem:           186        183          2          0          1         53
[04:31] <genii> 186 free not 2
[04:31] <sfire> ksivaji: ram is cheap... buy another 256 meg stick
[04:31] <BluesKaj> stephen, did you install alsa-base ?
[04:32] <ksivaji> genii will affect my system display ?
[04:32] <stephen> i dunno
[04:32] <stephen> i brb
[04:32] <sfire> ksivaji: no.. it won't affect the display.. but it'll give you the ram you need
[04:32] <sfire> 186 is a lil low IMHO... even for linux
[04:33] <genii> ksivaji: Not much. If you go below 4 Mb for video you will not get all the possible colour and resolution combos.
[04:33] <genii> ksivaji: If you use 1024x768 mostly 8Mb is plenty
[04:34] <ksivaji> i cant change my resolution also i dont know why ?
[04:34] <sfire> well thats a different issue
[04:34] <sfire> the ram use is controlled by BIOS
[04:34] <ksivaji> module for monitor and display cant be loaded ?
[04:35] <sfire> you can go into BIOS and tell the video to only use 32 megs of ram for instance
[04:35] <ksivaji> sfire yes
[04:35] <genii> ksivaji: No, they get loaded. but X will only use whatever colour/resolution combinations that it finds in the configuration file xorg.conf
[04:36] <stephen> hmmm
[04:36] <genii> ksivaji: But as sfire said, this is an entirely other issue
[04:36] <ksivaji> ok now i want to change resolution to 1024x768 how ?
[04:37] <sfire> I always modify the xorg.conf file... but thats different for each system
[04:37] <genii> sfire Yes, me too
[04:37] <sfire> the other way is to go into the GUI system and tell it the type of monitor you have
[04:38] <sfire> then selecting a different resolution
[04:38] <sfire> picking the monitor is important because if you don't it won't show all video modes
[04:38] <ksivaji> you mean kmenu->system setting-> moniter and screen
[04:39] <sfire> yep
[04:39] <genii> ksivaji: I would suggest at first try to change the monitor type to something like a standard SVGA at 60Hz then try to change the resolution that way.
[04:39] <Huas> ok i got some trouble with java. firefox tells me i have not enabled java even though i have done it in the settings. (checked thouse two java boxes!) what have i missed?
[04:39] <ksivaji> Huas java.com
 ?
[04:40] <genii> Huas try installing package sun-java6-jre
[04:40] <ksivaji> genii i cant module for monitor and display cant be loaded  this what i could see there
[04:40] <ksivaji> Huas www.java.com
 k...
[04:41] <ksivaji> Huas download jre and install
[04:41] <genii> Huas You can d/l and install the newest one too. Either is good. But since a package exists for 6 I would try that first
[04:41] <sfire> ksivaji: then you have to do it by modifying the xorg.conf file
[04:41] <ksivaji> sfire how
[04:42] <sfire> upload it to pastebin.ca so we can see it
[04:42] <genii> sfire ksivaji I need to do some work. Away From Keyboard about 5-7 minutes but reading msgs on return
 the thing is that i have already installed java
[04:43] <ksivaji> Huas that what i told you go to java.com ,download jre and install
[04:43] <BluesKaj> Huas, a hint make sure you sa yes to the java licence agreement or the install will stall and just sit there ,if you use adept or synaptic, click the details
[04:43] <sfire> good tip
[04:44] <sfire> that stumped me for a while
[04:44] <sfire> lol
[04:44] <Huas> BluesKaj ok
[04:44] <ksivaji> xorg.conf file where this file is located
[04:45] <sfire> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:45] <BluesKaj> yeah , dunno why adept and synaptic don't have a lil script that opens the shell to show that the licence must be accepted
 so now i started synaptic.. what i do now?
[04:46] <BluesKaj> search , then type java
[04:46] <BluesKaj> then choose apply
[04:47] <Huas> a whole list of stuff comes up when i search for java
[04:47] <BluesKaj> right sorry
[04:47] <BluesKaj> forgot
[04:47] <ksivaji> ya i got one second i will paste now
[04:47] <ksivaji> !pastebin
[04:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:48] <BluesKaj> Huas, choose jav-common
[04:48] <BluesKaj> java-common
[04:48] <Huas> that one is green and seems to be installed
[04:49] <Huas> "base of all java packages"
[04:49] <sfire> isn't there some kind of java firefox plugin?
[04:49] <miles> hey yall, wazzup
[04:49] <BluesKaj> ok jre
[04:49] <miles> sfire: you download the java jre and it plugs in
[04:49] <sfire> oh ok
[04:49] <sfire> too long ago to remember :p
[04:49] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d31633cbf
[04:50] <Huas> jre1.4 is installed
[04:50] <miles> #ubuntu-server
[04:50] <Huas> jre 1.4 is installed
[04:50] <Huas> even the mozilla firefox plugin is green
[04:50] <ksivaji> Huas http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[04:50] <sfire> ksivaji: can you guess the resolution now?
 if i needed a link i would not ask would i?
[04:51] <ksivaji> sfire no
[04:51] <BluesKaj> what's the FF-mozilla javaplugin called again ?
[04:51] <sfire> ksivaji: is it 1280x1024?
[04:51] <BluesKaj> <---uses konq
[04:51] <Scorpaen> where does Kubuntu store install pkgs?
[04:52] <miles> "/var/lib/<<package name>>"   i think
[04:52] <ksivaji> sfire i think 1026x786 is better how to change to it
[04:52] <miles> not sure scorpaen, but i think thats where they go
[04:52] <Scorpaen> i can't download flash, so i got someone to dcc it to me
[04:52] <sfire> ksivaji: just remove "1280x1024" out of each depth mode
[04:52] <ksivaji> Huas i thought of helping you sorry you carry on
[04:52] <Scorpaen> i copied it to /var/lib but it still tries to dl it
[04:52] <skullAttack> yea im tryin 2 install jre right now
[04:52] <sfire> ksivaji: I'll change it and upload it so you can see
[04:53] <fdoving> Scorpaen: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:53] <ksivaji> sfire ok
 your kind of help is not needed.
[04:53] <skullAttack> did it accordin to the java site instructions. FF doesnt ask for the plugin anymore, but the java setup has failed apparently
[04:53] <Huas> i need to reinstall java i suspect
[04:53] <Huas> need to get hushmail to work
[04:53] <ksivaji> lol
[04:53] <sfire> ksivaji: http://pastebin.com/d19b52ee1
[04:53] <skullAttack> isnt there a way of installing firefox/konqueror java support via apt-get?
[04:54] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: The only java plugins I see are "sun-java6-plugin" and "sun-java5-plugin".
[04:54] <sfire> ksivaji: make those changes then just restart X and it should work fine
[04:54] <Huas> https://mailserver10.hushmail.com/hushmail/blankContentFrame.php?PHPSESSID=hm6cc760c46020bdc0a18974fa479afcd3 wants to load an applet.
[04:54] <Huas> GNU Classpath's security implementation is not complete.
[04:54] <Huas> HOSTILE APPLETS WILL STEAL AND/OR DESTROY YOUR DATA!
[04:55] <Huas> this is what firefox says to me when i try to log into hushmail that uses java
[04:55] <skullAttack> lol
[04:55] <skullAttack> sounds very dramatic
[04:55] <ksivaji> sfire ok
[04:56] <Scorpaen> ok it's still trying to download flash
[04:56] <Scorpaen> grrr
[04:56] <dkruz> want a FREE iPhone? Go here to Score Yourself a FREE iPhone http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=3922029  Super easy.
[04:57] <Huas> omg i want an iphone so bad i could kill
[04:57] <sfire> dkruz: lame
[04:57] <Huas> :(
[04:57] <sfire> don't anyone click that
[04:57] <Huas> still i wont look at that url
[04:57] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: Ah, found the Firefox java plugin. "j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin" is the package.
[04:58] <dkruz> want a FREE iPhone? Go here to Score Yourself a FREE iPhone http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=3922029  Super easy.
[04:58] <BluesKaj> cool WhtWolfTeraDyne , now we need Huas attention :)
[04:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Someone kick dkruz, please.
 u fixed it mate?
[04:58] <Huas> :D
[04:58] <BluesKaj> Huas, j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[04:59] <Huas> j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[04:59] <Huas> its installed
[04:59] <Huas> 'java plugin for firefox'
[04:59] <BluesKaj> it's in synaptic , Huas
[05:00] <Huas> yeah i search for 'java firefox'
[05:00] <Huas> and i find it there... and its marked green ie installed
[05:00] <Huas> ERROR! Java, which is required, is not currently enabled in your browser. Click here for more information. >>
[05:01] <BluesKaj> no Huas, copy and paste 'j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin' into the search
[05:01] <Huas> i dont get it... i have checked all boxes in firefox to enable java
 okej i did that now and i found it
[05:01] <BluesKaj> in synaptic , Huas
 yes in synaptic
[05:01] <Huas> i did that and i see it
[05:02] <Huas> Java plugin for firefox
[05:02] <Huas> A metapackage containing dependencies for runing Java in mozilla browsers.
[05:02] <skullAttack> yea just install it
[05:02] <pag> Huas, try: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre  in konsole
[05:02] <skullAttack> it works
[05:02] <BluesKaj> right click and choose to install , then apply
[05:02] <BluesKaj> pag , he already has that
[05:02] <skullAttack> Huas: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[05:03] <skullAttack> after its download ittl take u thru some lisence agreements
[05:03] <skullAttack> should work then
[05:03] <BluesKaj> TOO MANY COOKS!
[05:03] <skullAttack> lol sorry
[05:03] <BluesKaj> we're almost ther, don't sidetrack us pls :)
[05:03] <pag> BluesKaj, pretty strange then... iirc that's the only package needet to get java to work on FF
[05:03] <Huas> does not work
[05:03] <ksivaji> i will reboot and come
[05:04] <skullAttack> k
[05:04] <BluesKaj> Huas, relogin
 you mean reboot?
[05:04] <pag> BluesKaj, restarting browser should be enough
[05:05] <BluesKaj> sometimes a relogin is better
[05:05] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+backspace, Huas
[05:05] <Huas> god damn when i installed java i was distracted by the phone and something went wrong.. and now it says everything is installed yet it does not work
[05:06] <neverblue> that guy has to stay off the phone
[05:06] <stephen> Huas you can only use java on the konquerer browser
[05:06] <stephen> it didnt work for firefox for me either
[05:06] <BluesKaj> stephen, not true
[05:06] <stephen> well thats what happened to me
[05:06] <neverblue> wb Haus
[05:06] <BluesKaj> it works in FF , it just takes some fiddling around
[05:07] <neverblue> Haus, what exactly about java didnt work for you?
[05:07] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> O_O;
 it seems everything with java is installed... but when i try to loginto hushmail it says java is not enabled in my browser
[05:07] <SlimeyPete> apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[05:07] <Haus> iv done apt-get
[05:07] <Haus> and the firefox plugin is installed to
[05:07] <neverblue> Haus, browser?
 firefox
[05:08] <BluesKaj> right on genii :)
[05:08] <neverblue> Haus, did you use a guide about setting it up?
[05:08] <stephen> :O genjii is a racist
[05:08] <stephen> lol
[05:08] <stephen> jk
 dont know man... all i know is that java seems to be installed yet hushmail that needs java does not work for me
[05:09] <Haus> and i got the newest firefox aswell
[05:09] <genii> stephen: I like coffee of all kinds not just black :)
[05:09] <stephen> i was joking
[05:09] <stephen> lol
[05:09] <neverblue> Haus, well there are lots of Java 'things', programming language, JVM, for running applets, etc...
[05:09] <genii> gonna catch up on scroll and see where we are etc
[05:09] <neverblue> so saying its installed, being more specific would help
 well what should i do to get it to work then?firefox says my java is not enabled
[05:10] <Haus> were in gods name do i enable it? i have already checked the boxes for java in ff settings
[05:10] <neverblue> Haus, use a guide to set it up properly
[05:10] <Haus> a guide? are you insaine?
[05:10] <Haus> lol
[05:10] <neverblue> ubuntu guide might be a good idea
[05:10] <neverblue> google it
[05:10] <pag> !java
[05:10] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:11] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: If Konq didn't crash whenever I go to "Edit Posts" on Blogger, I'd use it for everything...
[05:12] <Haus> good idea ill try to longinto hushmail with konqueror
[05:12] <sfire> I've never had konq crash
[05:12] <BluesKaj> blogger ? what's that ? :)
[05:12] <pag> Konqueror is great, but has minor problems with web2.0 sites.
[05:12] <Haus> konqueror says the same shit
[05:12] <neverblue> Haus do you have any FF addons?
[05:13] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: Blog making site owned by Google.
[05:13] <neverblue> Haus, which java .deb did you install?
[05:13] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hosting* not making
[05:13] <neverblue> Haus, thats your issue
[05:13] <genii> BluesKaj: Unfortunately I'm addicted to some FF plugins
 i dl from suns website
[05:13] <Haus> i did the sudo apt-get install stuff
[05:13] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Haus: Did you install the one from sun's website?
[05:14] <neverblue> Haus, those are two different ways to install JAVA
[05:14] <neverblue> Haus, during this entire convo, you have yet to say which Java you installed
[05:14] <BluesKaj> got most of the plugin stuff working in konq , genii ...haven't come across any sites that don't won't do the media yet
[05:14] <neverblue> enlighten us, and stop fussing
[05:14] <Haus> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[05:14] <Haus> this is what i did
[05:14] <neverblue> thats NOT from the Sun site
[05:14] <pag> Haus, could you please tell the output of " apt-cache policy sun-java6-jre "
[05:14] <Haus> ok
[05:14] <Haus> hold on
[05:15] <pag> Haus, to the pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )
[05:15] <neverblue> if you would actually read the ubuntu guide I referrenced, you would be fine
[05:15] <neverblue> but to each his own
[05:15] <Haus> sun-java6-jre:
[05:15] <Haus>   Installerad: 6-00-2ubuntu2
[05:15] <Haus>   Kandidat: 6-00-2ubuntu2
[05:15] <Haus>   Versionstabell:
[05:15] <Haus>  *** 6-00-2ubuntu2 0
[05:15] <Haus>         500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Packages
[05:15] <Haus>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:15] <neverblue> Haus, your flooding the channel
[05:16] <Haus>  BluesKaj i think something went wrong in the installation :(
[05:16] <sfire> I actually refused it at first... by mistake
[05:16] <sfire> it is kinda tricky
[05:16] <sfire> if your trying to "blow thru it"
[05:16] <pag> Haus, hmm.. try to reinstall it: sudo aptitude reinstall sun-java6-jre
[05:16] <Haus> pag ok sir. one moment
[05:17] <Haus> *its working*
[05:17] <BluesKaj> BBL
[05:17] <Haus> ok now it finished
[05:17] <Haus> pag what now?
[05:17] <pag> Haus, ok. restart the firefox and see if it works
[05:18] <Haus> pag k
[05:20] <Haus> pag sorry mate. still save stuff
[05:20] <Haus> :(
[05:21] <Haus> ERROR! Java, which is required, is not currently enabled in your browser. Click here for more information. >>
[05:21] <pag> Haus, ok.. let's see if firefox recognises java; type  about:plugins  to te FFs adressbar
[05:22] <Haus> pag ok i get a whole list of stuff and it all says yes... even nest to all the java stuff
[05:22] <Haus> could this have something to do with 'aplets' ?
[05:23] <skullAttack> Haus: I just got mine to work, but i had to uninstall firefox and the java plugin and then reinstall them
 i suspect i need to do the same...
[05:23] <skullAttack> try it
 never uninstalled before though... is that 'sudo apt-get uninstall ....' ?
[05:24] <skullAttack> from console type : sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[05:24] <skullAttack> or use synaptic, whichever you prefer
 done
[05:25] <skullAttack> ok
[05:26] <skullAttack> the command has finished executing?
[05:26] <Haus> yeah...
[05:26] <skullAttack> k
[05:26] <skullAttack> from console type : sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[05:26] <Haus> wait i think its better to remove java and firefox first
[05:26] <Haus> do everything from scratch
[05:27] <Haus> or maybe im just being paranoid?
[05:27] <skullAttack> :-/
[05:27] <miles> apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox
[05:27] <skullAttack> you just did
[05:27] <Dell-Net> hello any sled,slab,uslab menu for kde ?
[05:27] <skullAttack> ah u mean from the cache
[05:28] <skullAttack> well haus try doing what i said
[05:28] <skullAttack> it worked for me
 ok i installed again
[05:29] <Haus> lets see now
[05:29] <skullAttack> k, obviously, go to a site that you know has a java applet there
[05:29] <pag> Dell-Net, kbfx is alternative menu for KDE... or what did you mean?
[05:29] <skullAttack> i used the speed test at www.adslguide.org
 listen i only uninstalled the java plugin right? maybe i should uninstall and then install both java and the firefox plugin?
[05:31] <skullAttack> the command i told you to execute removed both the firefox internet browser and the java plugin
[05:31] <skullAttack> this is what i had to do to make it work in MY case
[05:32] <skullAttack> there's a likelihood that ittl work for you too
[05:32] <Haus>  sudo apt-get remove sun-java6-jre
[05:32] <Haus> i did this now
[05:32] <skullAttack> ok well good luck
[05:33] <Haus> yes i probably need alot of good luck to fix this shit
[05:33] <Haus> :(
[05:33] <Haus> god damn now i get it again:
[05:33] <Haus> https://mailserver9.hushmail.com/hushmail/blankContentFrame.php?PHPSESSID=hm8f44ad8a4e6fa91fe59cf4e2ae48da33 wants to load an applet.
[05:33] <Haus> GNU Classpath's security implementation is not complete.
[05:33] <Haus> HOSTILE APPLETS WILL STEAL AND/OR DESTROY YOUR DATA!
[05:34] <Dell-Net> pag: yeap something like that
[05:40] <Haus> god damn still the same shit on hushmail
[05:40] <Haus> is there some place to try if your java works?
[05:43] <Haus>   anyway thankx for the help pug
[05:43] <Haus> and others
[05:43] <Haus> give up i need to work now... (i make porno movies)
[05:45] <NiceGuyUK> In Kopete, how do I enable logging of conversations? I'm sure its there, just cant find it
[05:46] <Haus> um i went to java url now and there you can test if you have java or not and this is what it says to me
[05:46] <Haus> Oops! You don't have the recommended Java installed.
[05:46] <Haus> Your Java version is 1.4.2. Please click the button below to get the recommended Java for your computer.
[05:46] <Haus> wtf is going on?
[05:47] <pag> NiceGuyUK, settings -> plugins
[05:47] <NiceGuyUK> pag: is the plugin called Logging ?
 i dl this now -> jre-6u2-linux-i586.bin <- how do i install it?
[05:48] <genii> Haus Does the test applet still work with the 1.4.2 or not?
 up the test applet work on javas url anyhow
[05:48] <Haus> yup
[05:49] <dr_willis> Haus,  some reason you are using that .bin and not the repositories/apt-get method to install java?
[05:49] <genii> Haus The "recommended version" doesn't really matter if the applet actually works
[05:49] <pag> NiceGuyUK, oh... sry, I was wrong... I can't find it there :S  but somehow my Kopete saves the logs
 well i have done the apt-get stuff like one thousand times and i still dont have the newest version
[05:50] <pag> NiceGuyUK, try rightclicking on the contact you've spoken to and choose history (it sshould be there..)
[05:50] <NiceGuyUK> ah History, maybe thats the plugin I need
[05:50] <NiceGuyUK> thx
[05:50] <Berzerker> how would one go about installing a wireless USB adpater?
[05:50] <jhutchins> !info jre
[05:51] <ubotu> Package jre does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:51] <dr_willis> Haus,  its a binary/executable, chmod +x it, then run it.
[05:51] <jhutchins> !info java
[05:51] <ubotu> Package java does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
 k
[05:51] <dr_willis> !java
[05:51] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:51] <dr_willis> i alwyas just use  sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[05:51] <stephen> whats the command to install flash?
[05:51] <jhutchins> !info sun-java5-jre
[05:52] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-11-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 7287 kB, installed size 16168 kB
[05:52] <jhutchins> !info sun-java6-jre
[05:52] <ubotu> sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 6176 kB, installed size 14148 kB
 now i did that
[05:53] <dr_willis> did what...
 sudo chmod +x jre.....
[05:53] <Haus> what next?
[05:53] <dr_willis> you dident need a sudo.
[05:53] <dr_willis> run it as ya do anything else in the local dir.. Bash 101...   ./whatevertheheckitis
[05:53] <Haus> k
[05:53] <dr_willis> you MAY want to 'sudo' that.
[05:53] <dr_willis> :)
[05:54] <Haus> should i copy this file and put it in /bin ?
[05:54] <dr_willis> that file is the INSTALLER
[05:54] <Haus> oh
[05:54] <Haus> thought you said it was a executeble file
[05:54] <dr_willis> i hate the use of .bin stuff.
[05:54] <dr_willis> it IS an executable..
[05:54] <Haus> installation executable
[05:54] <Haus> ok
[05:54] <Haus> gotcha
[05:54] <Haus> lets see if this hoe will work with me now then .... :(
[05:55] <dr_willis> good luck you may need it.
[05:55] <dr_willis> I'll stick with the older version. since it does what i need.
[05:55] <Haus> well obviously not... my hushmail does not work
[05:56] <dr_willis> i would find  the need for the latest and greatest java.. to be odd in a website.
[05:56] <dr_willis> may be some other oddity going on.
[05:56] <Haus> it does complaint my ff has not enabled java
[05:57] <Haus> and i think that is kinda odd when i have done just that in the ff settings
[05:57] <Berzerker> is there a way I can enable logitech hotkeys?
[05:57] <Daisuke-Ido> well i got sound working in UT, now to figure out why the mouse is so jerky
[05:58] <Daisuke-Ido> i'll be running along a corridor and all of a sudden i'm staring at the ceiling or the floor
[05:59] <Berzerker> anyone?
[06:02] <dr_willis> Haus,  hushmail is working here fine with my java
[06:02] <Haus> i have gotten about god damn anything to work in linux but this god damn hushmail still fuks around with me
[06:02] <Haus> :(
[06:02] <pag> Haus, I suspect that java-firefox-plugin (I can't remember the package name) messes your Sun-java up
[06:03] <dr_willis> Haus,  try a 'java -version' and see if you are using the sun java, or the OTHER java (gjc) version
 i have no idea mate...
[06:03] <quartje> haus: does the Java plugin shows up when you type about:plugins in your URL window in Firefox?
 yuh all is installed and fine it say and same in synaptic
[06:03] <Haus> :(
[06:04] <Haus> java -version
[06:04] <Haus> java version "1.4.2-02"
[06:04] <Haus> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
[06:04] <Haus> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)
[06:04] <pag> Haus, try removing j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[06:04] <dr_willis> Haus,  you can have more then 1 'java' installed.. thats what 'update-alternatives' is all about.
[06:04] <dr_willis> you are NOT NOT using the sun java
[06:04] <dr_willis> java version "1.6.0"
[06:04] <dr_willis> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)
[06:04] <dr_willis> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode, sharing)
[06:04] <dr_willis> Is the sun java. I belive. :)
[06:05] <dr_willis> note the 'blackdown' in yours.
[06:05] <Haus> so i am NOT using java now?
[06:05] <stephen> !pastebin
[06:05] <Haus> oi wey guys im really feel like dying now
[06:05] <dr_willis> you are not using the SUN RELEASE of JAVA
[06:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:05] <dr_willis> You are using the 'blackdown gpl'ed' version thats not 100% compatiable.
[06:06] <Haus> omg thats why i get that freakin sign about gpl when i try to loginto hushmail all the time
[06:06] <Haus> let me show u
[06:06] <Haus> one moment
[06:06] <dr_willis> Troubleshoooting 101. :)
[06:06] <dr_willis> the !java url mentions the update-alternatives java command. i recall to be sure your system is using the sun java
[06:06] <Haus> this i get:
[06:06] <Haus> https://mailserver10.hushmail.com/hushmail/blankContentFrame.php?PHPSESSID=hm393737c7cc7a92b2e898cce68c548ef9 wants to load an applet.
[06:06] <Haus> GNU Classpath's security implementation is not complete.
[06:06] <Haus> HOSTILE APPLETS WILL STEAL AND/OR DESTROY YOUR DATA!
[06:07] <Haus> dr_willis> so how i fix this ?
[06:07] <dr_willis> read the !java web site.. see the section on 'update-alternative'
[06:07] <dr_willis> ive not had this issue in ages.
[06:08] <quartje> what is that hush mail anyway?
[06:08] <quartje> crappy java applets
[06:08] <dr_willis> a free 'secure'  webmail thing
[06:08] <quartje> "secure"
[06:08] <dr_willis> looke like ya get 2mb free.
[06:08] <quartje> hm
[06:08] <quartje> 2 whole mb's!
[06:08] <Haus> listen is this the correct url for me? -> http://www.java.com/sv/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=sv&host=www.java.com:80 ?
[06:08] <dr_willis> thats all my wife needs
[06:09] <dr_willis> the bot said........                https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[06:09] <dr_willis> Haus,  use the java and docs for ubuntu.. dont use the sun downloads/guides
[06:10] <dr_willis> update-java-alternatives -l
[06:10] <dr_willis> shows what javas ya got installed
[06:11] <Haus> update-java-alternatives -l
[06:11] <Haus> java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[06:11] <Haus> java-gcj 1041 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj
[06:11] <pag> Haus, the exact command is:   sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[06:11] <GrahamA> Is there some sort of script I can make so that if KTorrent crashes it start's again?
[06:11] <jhutchins> genii: Certainly it suggests some sort of moron.
[06:11] <dr_willis> pag,  yea - waseent sure what to use at the end. :)
[06:12] <dr_willis> sudo update-alternatives --config java  - aparantly gives ya a list.
[06:12] <Haus> this gives me a list to long to paste here
[06:13] <Haus> sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[06:13] <Haus> that command does
[06:13] <dhq> hey guys, i have to execute java programs how do i do this i need JAVA and JAVAC
[06:13] <pag> !paste | Haus
[06:13] <ubotu> Haus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:13] <dr_willis> gee.. i got exactly 1 java installed. :)  java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[06:14] <quartje> GrahamA: strange that it is crashing in the first place
[06:14] <dr_willis> Haus,  'READ' the messages.. its just info on what its doing..  then its done. :)
[06:14] <dr_willis> did it print out any 'error' type messages?
[06:14] <Haus> pug i dont find a kubuntu in the syntax
[06:14] <Haus> should i choose java maybe
[06:15] <dr_willis> syntax? huh?
[06:15] <sfire> Haus: have you tried gmail... also secure
[06:15] <Haus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30237/
[06:15] <Haus> look at this link now
[06:15] <Berzerker> can anyone help me install wireless?
[06:15] <dr_willis> Haus,  looks like it worked to me
[06:15] <GrahamA> quartje: Any ideas?
[06:16] <quartje> GrahamA: no
[06:16] <dr_willis> Haus,  close the browser, reload it.. check...
[06:16] <quartje> does it crash a lot GrahamA?
[06:16] <dr_willis> try java -version again :)
 um ok
[06:16] <Haus> one moment
[06:16] <dr_willis> !tab
[06:16] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:17] <GrahamA> quartje: It seems to...
[06:17] <GrahamA> If I leave it on for ages
[06:17] <quartje> strange
[06:17] <Haus> dr willis um still same shit
[06:17] <quartje> have you tried googling for it?
[06:17] <Haus> wtf did you do that made it work?
[06:18] <jhutchins> !wireless
[06:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:18] <GrahamA> For what? Why does KTorrent crash?
[06:18] <dhq> dr_willis, do you have an idea in java
[06:18] <dr_willis> Haus,  very little at all.. I just installed that sun package given at the end of the !java bot factoid
[06:18] <quartje> GrahamA: as a quick and dirty fix you could have a cronjob executed every 5 minutes or so which checkes the process list for ktorrent and restarts it when it isn't running anymore
[06:18] <dr_willis> Haus,  does your java -version show the proper version now?
[06:19] <dr_willis> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)
 give me the command
[06:19] <GrahamA> That could work.
[06:19] <dr_willis> Haus,  short term mempory eh? java -v for the 10th time. :P)
[06:19] <dr_willis> or was it -version
[06:19] <dr_willis> i forget which one java uses
[06:19] <GrahamA> quartje: how could I do that?
[06:20] <Haus> java -version
[06:20] <Haus> java version "1.6.0"
[06:20] <Haus> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)
[06:20] <Haus> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode, sharing)
[06:20] <dr_willis> silly java -v dont work, but -version does, when it 'should' be --version, to be more compliant.
[06:20] <Haus> thas what it shows now
[06:20] <dr_willis> Haus,  so you are ow using the official sun java..
[06:20] <dr_willis> be sure you closed all browser windows.
[06:20] <Haus> do i need to reboot ?
[06:20] <dr_willis> This isent windows.
[06:20] <dr_willis> :)_
[06:20] <Haus> :P
[06:21] <pag> Haus, just remove the firefox plugin of that old java  or try with konq
 pls how do i remove the old one?
[06:21] <dr_willis> Of course if youve tried installing the other .bin java fil;es.. that may totally mess things up
[06:21] <dr_willis> Haus,  you doint need to use the <> stuff in nicks. :)
[06:21] <Haus> k
[06:21] <pag> Haus, sudo apt-get remove --pruge j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[06:22] <pag> hmpf... purge  not pruge
[06:22] <BluesKaj> yeah IIRC , all vestiges of nonsunjava has to be uninstalled ..best way is in synaptic
[06:22] <quartje> GrahamA: well, if you have never done some bash scripting I'd start with something more easy :)
[06:22] <Haus> pruge?
[06:22] <zootechnist> Hello everybody my english not well.I excuse because of this but I have problem
[06:22] <Haus> isnt it purge?
[06:22] <pag> Haus, it is
[06:22] <Haus> ok
[06:23] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> zootechnist: what is your native language?
[06:23] <dhq> what package do i need for "javac " and "java" commands
[06:23] <zootechnist> turkish
[06:23] <pag> Haus, I'm just getting quite tired so I do make typos. sorry about that
[06:23] <dr_willis> !java
[06:23] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:23] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !tr
[06:23] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[06:23] <dr_willis>  install sun-java6-jre
[06:24] <dr_willis> javac may be in the jdk package however.. not sure. :)
[06:24] <GrahamA> quartje: I should learn cronjobs, I've setup a debian server upstairs.
[06:24] <Haus> pag no problem
[06:24] <Haus> ok now i did this shit ill reboot ff
[06:24] <GrahamA> I could... ssh into my server and use an torrent client on that.
[06:24] <Haus> and see if it works
[06:24] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> pag: how long you been up?
[06:24] <zootechnist> nobody there
[06:24] <pag> WhtWolfTeraDyne, not long.. 9.5 hours maybe :)
[06:25] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> zootechnist: Ok. Put your question as best you can. We can usually decipher what you need.
[06:25] <quartje> GrahamA: that would be an option
[06:26] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> pag: 9.5? That's not too bad. Best to take a nap after 7-8 hours, though.
[06:26] <zootechnist> I mounted my removable disk succesfully but I don't see .avi and .dat(vcd) files in my disk
[06:26] <quartje> GrahamA: there is a graphical interface for cron in kubuntu
[06:27] <GrahamA> Is there?
[06:27] <quartje> kcron
[06:27] <dr_willis> that takes all the fun out of it!
[06:27] <dr_willis> :)
[06:27] <quartje> in the system menu
[06:27] <bobesponja> hey all
[06:28] <quartje> crontab -e on the commandline :)
[06:28] <pag> WhtWolfTeraDyne, English isn't my primary language, and it takes sometimes quite an effort to form a sentence. :D  And as known; thinking can be exausting
[06:28] <bobesponja> konqueror crashed at startup and now when I try to open /home/pat it search for the files for ever but doesn't display anything
[06:28] <GrahamA> quartje: While you're here, can I have my server accessible from my network through an ethernet connection but connect to another network's wireless point and be accessible from the wired side?
[06:28] <Haus> still does not work i give up
[06:28] <bobesponja> do I need to restart a kde service or something?
[06:29] <MarcC> anybody know why my laptop shuts down sometimes when I use suspend?
[06:29] <ksivaji> is there any way to remove unwanted kernel modules ?
[06:29] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> pag: Ah. That would make sense.
[06:29] <pag> bobesponja, did you create something at your /home lately?
[06:29] <bobesponja> pag: no
[06:29] <laervian> hi everyone
[06:29] <ksivaji> !hi
[06:29] <GrahamA> quartje: Not in an illegal way or anything
[06:29] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:29] <laervian> does anyone know how to set dolphin as default file manager
[06:30] <laervian> ?
[06:30] <laervian> thanks ubotu :P
[06:30] <dr_willis> laervian,  ive seen that asked befor.. Im not sure its doable at this time.
[06:30] <laervian> oh sorry thanks ksivaji
[06:30] <dr_willis> laervian,  may want to ask in #kde
[06:30] <quartje> GrahamA: I dont really understand your question: the server has two nics? a wireless nic and a normal nic?
[06:30] <ksivaji> dr_willis  is there any way to remove unwanted kernel modules ?
[06:30] <laervian> it is possible I did it once, do not remeber how :)
[06:30] <GrahamA> I want it to have 2
[06:30] <laervian> thanks anyhow
[06:30] <BluesKaj> laervian, don't you'll regret it ...it limits your options
[06:30] <GrahamA> I'm wondering if it's possible.
[06:30] <laervian> uhm maybe
[06:30] <dr_willis> ksivaji,  blacklist them to keep them from getting loaded.. is one way i guess.
[06:30] <pag> laervian, right click on folder chose open with -> other  look for dolphin an make sure you check the "use always"
[06:31] <laervian> pag: where?
[06:31] <quartje> you can have as many nics as you want GrahamA
[06:31] <ksivaji> dr_willis how to blacklist them ?
[06:31] <dr_willis> !blacklist
[06:31] <ksivaji> ubotu sucks
[06:31] <pag> laervian, ie open a konqueror  there will be folders
[06:31] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <GrahamA> quartje: Wait, what's a nic?
[06:31] <GrahamA> I'm not a good server admin, bare with me.
[06:31] <quartje> GrahamA: a network card
[06:31] <GrahamA> Oh ok.
[06:31] <GrahamA> Yes
[06:32] <GrahamA> But can I say... use a torrent client exclusively for the wireless and a wired one so I can connect to it?
[06:33] <ksivaji> cat: /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist: No such file or directory
[06:33] <laervian> pag thanks a lot :)
[06:33] <pag> laura, np :)
[06:33] <dr_willis> ksivaji,  so... logicially then,.... MAKE ONE... :)
[06:33] <laervian> bye :)
[06:33] <quartje> GrahamA: If you want all internet traffic on one nic and just connect to it from another nic, no problem
[06:33] <GrahamA> quartje: Well, if it's possible, cool.
[06:34] <quartje> WhtWolfTeraDyne: I think digikam can even make coffee ;)
[06:34] <GrahamA> Just need to know how :P
[06:34] <quartje> GrahamA : I dont know how to do that in kubuntu: I have been a kubuntu user since an hour ago :)
[06:35] <GrahamA> Well I doubt it's much different than whatever you've used before.
[06:35] <GrahamA> Unless it's Windows.
[06:35] <GrahamA> But you seem to know alot about Linux to be a fresh user.
[06:35] <ludo__> des francais ici ?
[06:35] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !fr
[06:35] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:35] <ludo__> thanks
[06:36] <ksivaji> dr_willis how to find unwanted module
[06:36] <quartje> GrahamA: I use mainly Suse, but my laptop didn't want to suspend so I decided to have a look at kubuntu for a change
[06:36] <dr_willis> ksivaji,  what an odd question... :)
[06:36] <dr_willis> ksivaji,   you are referign to a module name , for a module you dont want to load?
[06:37] <Haus> is this sun java -> java version "1.6.0"
[06:37] <Haus> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)
[06:37] <Haus> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode, sharing)
[06:37] <dr_willis> ava HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode, sharing)
[06:37] <dr_willis> Yes.. it seems to be
[06:38] <Haus> i think java has a personal beef with me
[06:39] <ksivaji> i read that kernel will have module to handle different hardware my system is amd based so i can remove  modules that is not related to amd know ?
[06:39] <dr_willis> Or some of the otehr 'things' you did earlier to fix it.. broke it worse
[06:39] <dr_willis> Haus,  make a new user, see if it works for them
[06:39] <dr_willis> ksivaji,  if the moduiles are not needed.. they are not loaded.. you sound like you are worring about somthing thats not a problem.
[06:39] <Haus> is there a way to longin to this freakin hushshit without java?
[06:40] <bruno___> hi
[06:40] <bruno___> alguem do brasil ?????
[06:40] <dr_willis> Haus,  hushmail had a 'disable java' setting right there on the login screens for me.
[06:40] <quartje> GrahamA: there is a nice way of configuring your network in the system settings
[06:40] <pag> !br | bruno___
[06:40] <ubotu> bruno___: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:40] <ksivaji> dr_willis ya i have only 186mb ram OS consumes almost 170Mb so my system is slow
[06:41] <dr_willis> ksivaji,  worrying about kernel modules isent goign to help that at all.
[06:42] <pag> ksivaji, try running fewer apps / lighter DE / WM  ;)
[06:42] <dr_willis> the OS will grab all the ram it can for disk cache, as needed.. also.
[06:42] <Haus> willis and were in gods name do you see that ?
[06:42] <bruno___> putz nao sei entrar em portugues
[06:42] <dr_willis> Haus,  it was right there when i logged in. a check box.
[06:42] <ksivaji> pag be more clear
[06:43] <dr_willis> Loading the Hush Encryption Engine may take up to three minutes. If you are asked to install software from Hush Communications, please chooseLoading the Hush Encryption Engine may take up to three minutes. If you are asked to install software from Hush Communications, please choose   "disable java" or "continue"
[06:43] <ksivaji> total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[06:43] <ksivaji> Mem:           186        183          3          0          0         46
[06:43] <dr_willis> Please enter your passphrase:    below it is "turn off java' real clear... :)
[06:43] <pag> ksivaji, dump the KDE and use fluxbox. Use irssi for irc... I think there was guide on how to lighten your systen @ ubuntuforums, but I don't have the direct link
[06:44] <ksivaji> !fluxbox
[06:44] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[06:44] <dr_willis> !matchbox
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about matchbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <dr_willis> I like Matchbox :)
[06:44] <dr_willis> !info matchbox
[06:44] <ubotu> matchbox: base environment for resource-limited systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3 (feisty), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB
[06:44] <Lamington> Hello
[06:45] <Lamington> Matchbox ?
[06:45] <dr_willis> Its the WM/DE used by that Nokia 880 and a few other embeded devices also.
[06:45] <dr_willis> very different in ways.
[06:45] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I like windowmaker.
[06:46] <Lamington> ah i c
[06:46] <dr_willis> windowmaker is neat.. but a little weird in too many ways. :) old-skool
[06:46] <dr_willis> i wish kde and gnome would use windowmaker dock applets more.
[06:46] <dr_willis> down with Karamba/gdesklets! up with DockAPplets!
[06:46] <Lamington> Plasma > Karamba
[06:47] <evilmm> how actually stable is kde4?
[06:48] <pag> evilmm, not too stable ;)  And Kubuntu's packages are outdated iirc. so you'd have to compile from sources to get te current version up
[06:49] <cyber_cop> hi channel
[06:49] <pag> !hi | cyber_cop
[06:49] <ubotu> cyber_cop: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:49] <cyber_cop> I'm from Turkey
[06:49] <pag> !tr
[06:49] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[06:49] <cyber_cop> kubuntu-tr not support
[06:50] <cyber_cop> ubotu: turkish kubuntu channel not support
[06:50] <cyber_cop> ubotu: bot :))
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot :)) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <evilmm> pag: i've heard kde4 isnt going to be included for at least 2 more releases
[06:51] <cyber_cop> my sistem kubuntu 7.10 alfa2
[06:51] <Haus> since this java ape wont work im going to uninstall it all
[06:51] <cyber_cop> my graphich card via
[06:51] <Haus> is it 'sudo apt-get remove sun-java6-jre' ?
[06:51] <Lamington> KDE4 will be available in the repositories
[06:51] <cyber_cop> via P4M900 chipset
[06:51] <pag> evilmm, well... it won't be the default, but it should be available to install in all it's glory :)
[06:52] <cyber_cop> xorg.conf graphich card vesa
[06:52] <evilmm> pag: ah
[06:52] <cyber_cop> via Help ??
[06:52] <evilmm> it looks a bit cartoonish for my tastes
[06:52] <cyber_cop> I'm bad english speak. sorry
[06:52] <Lamington> Its not even finished
[06:52] <cyber_cop> via graphich card help ??
[06:57] <evilmm> true..but unless they overhaul everything
[06:57] <evilmm> which they probably will, but thats besides the point
[06:57] <evilmm> im talking nhow
[06:57] <evilmm> now*
[06:57] <cyber_cop> My graphic card not installed. Via driver install help me ?
[06:57] <dreamer> hi all, I just tried to install quake2, but when I load the program I get: Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[06:57] <cyber_cop> kubuntu developer whois ??
[06:57] <jaims> hello
[06:58] <jaims> one question
[06:58] <jfelt> Okay.
[06:58] <jaims> kubuntu festy, which package to get python go be able to import package gtksourceview?
[06:59] <pag> jaims, umm... python-gtk2 maybe?  Somehow I feel that this isn't the channel that knows about GTK.. try rather #ubuntu or #gtk
[07:00] <hume> hi....is there an easy way to produce a "home" icon on the desktop in Kubuntu feisty?
[07:01] <jaims> pag: python-gtk2 already installed. I'll try those channels. Thank you very much
[07:02] <jaims> kubuntu festy, which package to get python go be able to import package gtksourceview?
[07:04] <cyber_cop> hey channell kde configuration century
[07:04] <cyber_cop> console command ??
[07:04] <Haus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udwUnwHJYck
[07:04] <Haus> lol
[07:06] <TxO> nas... alguno que me aga algun privado si me echa alguna mano o sabe de algun manual para crear usuarios y grupos con privilegios o sin.. gracias
[07:06] <cyber_cop> valla dediklerinden bii anlamadm
[07:06] <cyber_cop> ama kfr ettiysen kanala, ibnesin
[07:07] <cyber_cop> help me ??
[07:07] <Haus> cyber cop speak english you god damn sand niger
[07:07] <cyber_cop> via graphich card driver
[07:07] <visham> hi folks
[07:07] <cyber_cop> not installed
[07:08] <cyber_cop> support please ?
[07:08] <visham> how to install new font for use with konsole
 /etc/x11/xconf.org
[07:08] <cyber_cop> Haus: not support
[07:08] <cyber_cop> via card
[07:08] <chueQo> eee hello
[07:08] <chueQo> espaol alguien?
[07:08] <chueQo> spanish anyone?
[07:09] <cyber_cop> Haus: support web pages please
[07:09] <chueQo> nihongo shimasu?
[07:09] <cyber_cop> Via P4M900 driver
[07:09] <cyber_cop> chipset
 look at this file /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[07:09] <visham> hey konsole fonts help pls
[07:09] <cyber_cop> Haus: point the via
[07:09] <chueQo> I ve got a question
[07:09] <Haus> cyber_cop do you have nvidia?
[07:09] <cyber_cop> X restart
[07:09] <cyber_cop> not open
[07:09] <chueQo> about gfxgrub
[07:09] <cyber_cop> problem
[07:10] <chueQo> how do I make my own message.file?
[07:10] <cyber_cop> Haus: VIA driver
[07:10] <cyber_cop> now default VESA driver
[07:10] <visham> any one knows how to add more fonts to the konsole font select dialog?
[07:10] <cyber_cop> my real driver via
[07:10] <chueQo> download kuake
[07:10] <chueQo> how do I make my own message.file?
[07:10] <Haus> cyper_cop do this -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:18] <bluejay> can anybody here who can help my webcam work
[07:18] <bluejay> im new to linux
[07:18] <Haus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZcARG4s_qg&mode=related&search=
[07:18] <Haus> lol wtf
[07:18] <Haus> XD
[07:19] <m4ngoos> hello
[07:19] <m4ngoos> how do i disable beryl?
 sudp apt-get remove beryl
[07:19] <m4ngoos> thats the only way?
[07:19] <Haus> well thats a good way if you want to remove it i think
[07:20] <m4ngoos> well
[07:20] <m4ngoos> id like to just disable it
[07:20] <m4ngoos> keep it installed
[07:20] <Haus> ok hold on one moment let me check
[07:21] <Haus> m4ngoos check this http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/cmd.csp?path=d/disable
[07:21] <Haus> noo wait thats wrong... ignore that one
[07:23] <Haus> Use beryl-manager to disable beryl
[07:24] <m4ngoos> i cant find it in there
 you sure you dont find it?
[07:24] <miles> use beryl-manager to pick your original window manager
[07:24] <miles> probably kwin for you
[07:24] <miles> right click beryl icon -> select window manager
[07:25] <m4ngoos> Metacity
[07:25] <m4ngoos> why is gnome called metacity?
[07:26] <jhutchins> m4ngoos: It isn't, it's called gnome.
[07:26] <m4ngoos> oh metacity is probably the theme..
[07:26] <eagles0513875> jhutchins: u know much about debugging
[07:26] <m4ngoos> how come 2 of my desktops are gone now?
[07:26] <stevo111> AMAZING thingol79 got my sound to work in the new gusty kubuntu :)
[07:27] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: I'm more of a troubleshooter than a debugger.  I don't get into the code.
[07:27] <eagles0513875> lol maybe u can help me
[07:28] <jhutchins> m4ngoos: Metacity is the compositing window manager.  Same thing as enlightenment used to be (maybe still is), but compositing/3D.
[07:28] <m4ngoos> i see
[07:28] <eagles0513875> jhutchins: ever since i upgraded to kde 3.5.7 in gutsy i have all my audio in flac and amarok is version 1.4.6 and for some reason with all my audio in amarok it intermittently cuts in and out throughout all the songs
[07:28] <m4ngoos> 2 of my workspaces dissapeared..
[07:29] <m4ngoos> how do i add them back?
[07:29] <stevo111> !jre 6
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre 6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <eagles0513875> jhutchins: the audio works in other programs like exaile
[07:29] <stevo111> !java
[07:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:29] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: You know that the only reason to run gutsy is to find bugs like this and report them, right?
[07:29] <stevo111> !sun-java6-jre
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-java6-jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <stevo111> oops
[07:29] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: gutsy support is in ubuntu+1, and we pretty much have to keep it that way until release.
[07:30] <stevo111> we?
[07:30] <eagles0513875> ok
[07:30] <stevo111> you are a dev?
[07:30] <jhutchins> !java | stevo111
[07:30] <ubotu> stevo111: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:30] <eagles0513875> jhutchins: i reported it to kde.org should i report it to ubuntu
[07:30] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Yeah, I would, possibly tie it to your kde bugrepot.
[07:31] <eagles0513875> dman it i would have to go dig through kde bugs lol
[07:31] <eagles0513875> !language | eagles051387
[07:31] <ubotu> eagles051387: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:31] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:31] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: KDE tends to dismiss any bug reports from distro packages as packaging problems, going through ubuntu makes it easier for them to push it upstream if necessary.
[07:31] <eagles0513875> ok
[07:31] <eagles0513875> then ill report
[07:31] <eagles0513875> jhutchins: r u a dev
[07:32] <BluesKaj> does launchpad ever provide any fixes for their bug reports or do they just get listed in google for no reason ? :)
[07:32] <jhutchins> Nope.  Just a user and troubleshooter.
[07:32] <eagles0513875> a vry good one at that
[07:32] <cyber_cop> Haus:
[07:32] <cyber_cop> command in my console
[07:32] <cyber_cop> driver lists
[07:32] <jhutchins> I've worked as a developmental troubleshooter for a lot of projects.  I work with people who are having problems and either resolve the ones that are config errors or distill good feedback for a developer.
[07:32] <cyber_cop> my select via driver
[07:33] <cyber_cop> don't open sistem
[07:33] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Thanks.  It's kinda like crosswords or sudoku for me.
[07:33] <cyber_cop> xorg.conf deleted. vesa driver open
[07:33] <cyber_cop> help me ??
[07:34] <eagles0513875> jhutchins: u able to read code
[07:34] <eagles0513875> !ask | cyber_cop
[07:34] <ubotu> cyber_cop: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:34] <cyber_cop> support please
[07:34] <eagles0513875> !ask | cyber_cop
[07:34] <cyber_cop> eagles0513875: my graphic card driver
[07:34] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, it's nice to know that others are having the same prob , but listing similar probs in google isn't helping to solve the probs ...i don't get it .
[07:34] <cyber_cop> not installed
[07:34] <jhutchins> cyber_cop: This is a user channel.  Other users might know how to solve your problem if you state it clearly.
[07:34] <stevo111> BluesKaj:?
[07:34] <texjoachim> anyone with experience on installing netbeans on feisty?
[07:34] <Lamington> cyber_cop: What graphics card do you have ?
[07:35] <stevo111> BluesKaj: do you have ubuntu?
[07:35] <BluesKaj> stevo111, kubuntu
[07:35] <stevo111> hmmm
[07:35] <stevo111> what one?
[07:35] <BluesKaj> feisty, why /
[07:35] <BluesKaj> ?
[07:36] <jhutchins> Ankara!
[07:36] <tams> ehl
[07:36] <cyber_cop> Lamington: my graphics card via
[07:37] <Lamington> cyber_cop: No hardware acceleration ?
[07:37] <BluesKaj> was just stevo111, I was making a comment about how useless it is to have launchpad list ppl's probs with linux , without any fixes ...what good is that
[07:37] <Haus> cyber cop sup bro?
[07:38] <stevo111> i dunno BluesKaj
[07:38] <cyber_cop> Haus: command in my console
[07:38] <stevo111> im confused
[07:38] <BluesKaj> google is getting really quite uselsess and irrelavent in some ways
[07:38] <cyber_cop> open the driver list
[07:38] <stevo111> oh
 what u want to know mate?
[07:38] <cyber_cop> and select via
[07:38] <cyber_cop> restart pc
[07:38] <cyber_cop> don't open
 yeah did you edit the xorg.conf?
[07:38] <cyber_cop> xorg.conf deleted
[07:39] <cyber_cop> open system
[07:39] <hume> ugh,....deleted??
[07:39] <Haus> deleted? lol are you insaine?
[07:39] <Lamington> >_<
[07:39] <cyber_cop> yeah
[07:39] <Haus> wtf this is a troll
[07:39] <Haus> lol
[07:39] <hume> hehe....are you running x now?
[07:39] <cyber_cop> yes run
[07:39] <Haus> ksivaji what? why are you versioning me?
[07:39] <cyber_cop> new xorg.conf
[07:39] <cyber_cop> safe mode open
[07:40] <cyber_cop> xorg.conf edit and reboot
[07:40] <cyber_cop> now driver vesa
[07:40] <cyber_cop> :((
[07:40] <Lamington> cyber_cop: so ?
[07:40] <grul> !ati
[07:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:41] <cyber_cop> Lamington: bad english speak
[07:41] <Lamington> cyber_cop: What are you expecting a via chipset to do ? Hardware acceleration ?
[07:41] <cyber_cop> my graphics card driver via P4M900
[07:41] <cyber_cop> support web page link please
[07:41] <cyber_cop> install support page ?
[07:42] <Lamington> cyber_cop: Whats the problem ?
[07:42] <hume> cyber_cop, isn't the viachrome drivers something for you?
[07:42] <hume> or openchrome, I mean
[07:42] <Haus> choose NVIDIA when you gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:42] <cyber_cop> Lamington: my chipset
[07:42] <cyber_cop> Via p4m900
[07:42] <Lamington> cyber_cop: it has kernel support
[07:43] <Lamington> Chrome9 ?
[07:43] <d1kt4t0r> does anyone know how to fix this... my KDE font sizes are 8 point everywhere... using bitstream fonts. But in apps using KHTML, that is the konqueror browser and kopete conversation window, the 8 point reduces further in size. What is happening?
[07:43] <cyber_cop> Lamington: yep
[07:43] <cyber_cop> chrome9
[07:44] <jhutchins> d1kt4t0r: konq does have it's own default font settings.
[07:44] <jhutchins> Dunno about kopete, I've been runing pidgin.
[07:44] <cyber_cop> Lamington: http://dpaste.com/14678
[07:45] <Lamington> cyber_cop: Maybe this will help http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=101
[07:45] <cyber_cop> ok
[07:46] <cyber_cop> Lamington: open page
[07:46] <cyber_cop> install support me ?
[07:47] <Lamington> cyber_cop: Most of them are video drivers, so one of them should work
[07:47] <cyber_cop> Lamington: yes true driver
[07:48] <cyber_cop> install support me ?
[07:48] <Lamington> cyber_cop: Chrome 9 ?
[07:48] <stevo111> http://www.pastebin.ca/623538 please check that for errors. i want to enable all repositories
[07:49] <d1kt4t0r> hmmm... think the difference probably comes because of the hinting for the small fonts... KHTML seems to be using bytecode hinting. any ideas anyone?
[07:49] <cyber_cop> Lamington: yes chrome9
[07:49] <cyber_cop> P4M900
[07:49] <cyber_cop> chipset
[07:50] <Lamington> cyber_cop: go down to the UniChrome XORG 40071 source installation guide
[07:50] <Hadarra> cyber_cop etc: Am I right: Your X does not start?
[07:52] <Lamington> cyber_cop: P4M900 VIA Chrome9 integrated graphics ( P4M900 ) ... click the link
[07:52] <genii> jhutchins: Yes, I like pidgin as well
[07:53] <cyber_cop> Lamington: yes click
[07:53] <BluesKaj> stevo111, is that the install default sources.list
[07:53] <BluesKaj> ?
[07:54] <cyber_cop> Hadarra: yes
[07:54] <cyber_cop> X problem
[07:55] <cyber_cop> ctrl+alt+backspace and..
[07:55] <Hadarra> cyber_cop: and do you have a asus motherboard
[07:55] <cyber_cop> screen close
[07:55] <cyber_cop> ??
[07:55] <cyber_cop> I'm no
[07:55] <cyber_cop> :(
[07:55] <Hadarra> cyber_cop: is the motherboard vendor asus
[07:55] <cyber_cop> asus ?
[07:56] <cyber_cop> I'm no
[07:56] <cyber_cop> asus or msi
[07:56] <cyber_cop> ??
[07:56] <x89x> hello. can anone help me with video driver ??
[07:56] <cyber_cop> I'm no
[07:56] <command0-182> My adpet installer says another program is using the API, but I checked & I can't find any other programs running
[07:56] <command0-182> My adpet installer says another program is using the API, but I checked & I can't find any other API programs running
[07:56] <x89x> vzduch : you there >>
[07:57] <cyber_cop> Lamington: click and install
[07:57] <BluesKaj> Hadarra, does it matter what mobo he has ?
[07:57] <cyber_cop> now ??
[07:57] <Lamington> cyber_cop: no wait
[07:57] <Hadarra> cyber_cop: ok. The problem Ive had was that asus mothewrboards requires special setings:, follows:
[07:57] <Lamington> cyber_cop: just a minute
[07:57] <Hadarra> X crashes before login
[07:58] <cyber_cop> Lamington: my X open
[07:58] <Hadarra> Docs I've found tell to use Driver "vesa" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "Device"
[07:58] <cyber_cop> my problem ctrl+alt+backspace and..
[07:58] <cyber_cop> X close and stand
[07:59] <cyber_cop> stop
[07:59] <vzduch> x89x: we've been through the whole thing already.. if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.  Accept it or go buy another gfx card :)
[07:59] <Hadarra> cyber_cop: also disabling powernowd might help (if running) /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[07:59] <x89x> vzduch : i found something
[07:59] <cyber_cop> stand restart touch
[07:59] <cyber_cop> press
[07:59] <x89x> vzduch http://www.hombrepac.com.ar/software-libre/linux/how-to-via-k8m890-chrome-9-igp-and-linuxs-xorg-ubuntu-edgy-610/
[07:59] <x89x> is that for me ????
[07:59] <command0-182> My adpet manager says another program is using the pakageing system but I can't find one
[08:00] <wander> alla
[08:00] <Lamington> cyber_cop:  Via has offered Fedora Core drivers for Chrome9 implementations in its P4M900 and K8M890 chipsets, and 2D acceleration may also be available through pure open source drivers such as OpenChrome.
[08:00] <command0-182> My adpet manager says another program is using the pakageing system but I don't have any other programs running
[08:00] <runlevelten> !adept
[08:00] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[08:00] <NightBird> !fixadept
[08:00] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:00] <cyber_cop> Lamington: yes
[08:01] <cyber_cop> I'm install support
[08:01] <runlevelten> heh
[08:01] <NightBird> !fixadept | command0-182
[08:01] <ubotu> command0-182: please see above
[08:01] <cyber_cop> driver install help me
[08:01] <genii> Bah. How to get Konversation to use FireFox instead of Konqueror for opening URLs as default behaviour?
[08:01] <runlevelten> kcontrol > kde components > default apps
[08:01] <Hadarra> cyber_cop: I tried with knoppix live CD: it worked but crashed after awhile until...
[08:01] <runlevelten> the change the default browser to firefox genii
[08:02] <Lamington> cyber_cop: I'm just looking at some information for you
[08:02] <command0-182> Thanks that worked :)
[08:02] <Hadarra> cyber_cop: I added 'knoppix noapic' to the boot command line
[08:02] <genii> runlevelten: OK thx
[08:02] <runlevelten> ;)
[08:02] <Lamington> cyber_cop: Are you using Kubuntu Feisty ?
[08:02] <cyber_cop> Lamington: kubuntu 7.10 alfa2
[08:03] <cyber_cop> new installed and
[08:03] <Hadarra> cyber_cop: It should be possible to add noapic nolapic to ubuntu as well. It might work, but I cant help, since...
[08:03] <cyber_cop> upgrade
[08:03] <BluesKaj> genii, in konverstaion/settings/configure konversation/general/use custom web browser
[08:03] <Hadarra> cyber_cop: I changed to mandriva because of those problems
[08:04] <Lamington> He only needs the VGA controller driver
[08:04] <Lamington> Everything else is there
[08:04] <genii> BluesKaj: That worked :)
[08:04] <BluesKaj> genii, good :)
[08:05] <x89x> genii cany u help ?
[08:06] <Hadarra> Lamington: If you are referring to cyber_cops (and my) problems, changing driver was not enough.
[08:06] <genii> x89x: What problem are you having?
[08:06] <x89x> i have a via deltachrome igp.
[08:06] <x89x> is this the driver genii sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-video-via
[08:06] <x89x> oh sorry
[08:06] <x89x> genii http://www.hombrepac.com.ar/software-libre/linux/how-to-via-k8m890-chrome-9-igp-and-linuxs-xorg-ubuntu-edgy-610/
[08:06] <x89x> this one ?
[08:07] <genii> x89x: There is actually an opensource UniChrome driver someplace
[08:07] <x89x> http://www.hombrepac.com.ar/software-libre/linux/how-to-via-k8m890-chrome-9-igp-and-linuxs-xorg-ubuntu-edgy-610/
[08:07] <runlevelten> http://litterbox.zawodny.com/i/pony.jpg
[08:07] <x89x> is this the one ?
[08:08] <x89x> genii ??
[08:08] <genii> x89x Looking :) Have patience
[08:08] <x89x> ok :)
[08:10] <genii> x89x:  You are running 6.10 (Edgy) Ubuntu?
[08:10] <x89x> no. i'm on 7.04 Fiesty genii
[08:10] <genii> x89x:  The VIA Chrome drivers which work on Edgy do NOT work on Feisty
[08:11] <Hadarra> x89x: Thats a fact. The  document was good, but it did not work
[08:11] <x89x> then i cant do anything genii ?
[08:11] <Lamington> friggin VIA site is crap
[08:12] <genii> x89x: I am still researching. When you do lspci | grep vga  does it show the model as K8M800 ?
[08:12] <Lamington> You would think their "download center" would actually have drivers to download...
[08:13] <x89x> genii/ mines a ASUS K8m890
[08:13] <genii> x89x: OK. Pls wait
[08:14] <Hadarra> genii: You meant grep via, not vga ?
[08:14] <Lamington> cyber_cop: try http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=78497
[08:15] <genii> Hadarra Since it could be VIA or Via, vga is better since it finds all cards
[08:16] <runlevelten> *VGA
[08:16] <Hadarra> genii: or none... (Or maybe it's diffrent in mandriva im using now
[08:16] <Lamington> I have to get going
[08:17] <runlevelten> lspci | grep [Vv] [Gg] [Aa] 
[08:17] <runlevelten> ;P
[08:17] <genii> runlevelten: smartass
[08:17] <Hadarra> runlevelten: Yep, sorry.
[08:17] <cyber_cop> Lamington: my installed
[08:17] <Lamington> Can someone follow the link I posted and try to help cyber_cop... it links to a forum where someone posted a link to a gzip file which contains a PDF with recent information
[08:17] <genii> :)
[08:18] <Lamington> cyber_cop: how did you go ?
[08:18] <Lamington> cyber_cop: Did it work ?
[08:18] <runlevelten> heh
[08:18] <genii> x89x: I'm finding many references to problems with this card and Feisty but no satisfactory solutions yet :(
[08:18] <x89x> genii :(
[08:18] <x89x> vesa sucks !!
[08:19] <Lamington> VIA sucks
[08:19] <Lamington> (I have VIA)
[08:19] <cyber_cop> Lamington: I'm not work
[08:20] <x89x> lamington what have u done then
[08:20] <Lamington> cyber_cop: have a look at this and see if it contains any useful information for you http://www.viaarena.com/Driver/via_unichrome_fbd_v2.6.00.03a_appnote_ver0.8a.gz Sorry I have to go now
[08:21] <Lamington> x89x: never had any problems with my chipset (its an older VIA chipset) and I installed an nvidia graphics card ages ago so it would be a non-issue for me anyway
[08:22] <x89x> oh. i have a via deltachrom IGP Lamington.
[08:22] <Lamington> gnite all (its late here and I have to work in the morning)
[08:22] <Hadarra> Lamington: The doc seems good, but requires some studying.
[08:22] <runlevelten> night Lamington
[08:22] <x89x> nite :)
[08:25] <genii> x89x: I found something at Via which looks promising
[08:25] <x89x> :) genii
[08:25] <genii> They claim it supports 7.04
[08:26] <genii> x89x:  If you feel brave :) here is the link, it has instructions on it and so forth http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=101
[08:26] <x89x> genii i used synaptic and found X.Org X server -- VIA display driver (not installeds) and X.Org X server -- Savage display driver (installed) What do i do ??
[08:28] <runlevelten> :|
[08:29] <genii> x89x: I already told you, the regular xorg via drivers do not work with your video card on 7.04 (Feisty) only on 6.10 (Edgy) or 6.06 (Dapper)
[08:30] <x89x> genii : i found it on synaptic
[08:32] <x89x> genii : does synaptic find for other Ubuntus too ?
[08:33] <genii> x89x: No, should only look for what version you have
[08:33] <Hadarra> genii: WHY does it not work? Would it be possible to get older stuff from dapper repo to fix the problem?
[08:33] <x89x> thegenii : i found it on that !
[08:33] <genii> Hadarra 1 minute I'll give you the bug URL
[08:34] <x89x> genii : i downloaded the X.Org X server -- VIA display driver . how do i install it  ?
[08:34] <genii> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-via/+bug/122953
[08:35] <Hadarra> genii: lets see.....
[08:35] <genii> x89x: You installed it thru synaptic?
[08:35] <x89x> genii Yes
[08:35] <x89x> I downloaded it not installed it genii
[08:36] <x89x> i hit the apply option in synaptic genii
[08:36] <genii> x89x: OK, so it is on now. The only change to make MAY be to put in xorg.conf the name "via" for the driver where it has what driver to use
[08:36] <genii> x89x: Ah, it should be OK then
[08:36] <berkes> I have been going trough many howtos and forums, but I fail to find The Ultimate method to solve my uuid issues: Kubuntu broke the UUID of swap on the latest upgrade on my desktop and it broke the swap and /root on my laptop last 3 upgrades.
[08:36] <x89x> just that much genii ?
[08:36] <x89x> no Device names and all genii ?
[08:36] <flygirl> hello any germans here?
[08:37] <berkes> does anyone know how to rebuild fstab the way it would be when re-installing (k)ubuntu?
[08:37] <BluesKaj> 1de | flygirl
[08:37] <genii> x89x: So then just hit ctrl-alt-backspace   which will restart the whole X server
[08:37] <BluesKaj> !de | flygirl
[08:37] <ubotu> flygirl: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:37] <x89x> how do i edit the xserv.conf ? genii
[08:37] <lan1g1r0> does kubuntu support opera?
[08:37] <flygirl> ok thanx
[08:37] <BluesKaj> lan1g1r0, yes
[08:38] <genii> x89x: To edit that file you would do:  kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:38] <genii> x89x: However, I would do first:
[08:38] <x89x> just the vesa to via right genii !
[08:38] <dystopianray> kpf can no longer register with zerconf, I cannot find anything that would indicate what the problem would be, can anyone help?
[08:38] <jono> hello?
[08:38] <genii> x89x: in konsole:   sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[08:39] <genii> x89x Yes, but first you should backup the file as i said
[08:39] <x89x> genii : if i dont get it to work, how do i restore the ackup ?
[08:39] <x89x> tell me the command genii
[08:39] <Mungallo> remove the .bak
[08:39] <Haus> what is it you type in ff to get the config settings? isent it something like : auto:conf?
[08:40] <Mungallo> mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:40] <genii> x89x: If it can't work , then do:   sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:40] <Pensa`MIA> Haus: about:config
 rite, thanks.
[08:40] <genii> x89x: Then you will just be back to vesa again
[08:40] <x89x> ok thanks genii
[08:40] <x89x> i'll try it now
[08:41] <jono> would anyone know why when i switched to KDE from Gnome on Ubuntu all my hardrives(other then the linux partition) stopped mounting in /media?
[08:41] <dystopianray> does anyone have working zeroconf?
[08:42] <BluesKaj> genii, ya get my message ?
[08:43] <lsproc> what pkgs do i need to play a mp3 stream in amarok
[08:43] <genii> BluesKaj: Yup
[08:43] <BluesKaj> ok
[08:43] <dystopianray> lsproc: libxine-extracodecs
[08:43] <lsproc> thanks
[08:43] <x89x> genii : kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesnt work !
[08:44] <x89x> i'm on ubuntu 7.04 genii
[08:44] <genii> x89x: then in konsole, do instead: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:45] <x89x> genii : VIA , via , Via are the same ??
[08:45] <x89x> case sensitive ?? genii
[08:45] <dystopianray> does anyone have kpf working with zeroconf?
[08:45] <Hadarra> x89x: Yes
[08:45] <cyber_cop> via
[08:45] <genii> x89x: just via   all lower case
[08:46] <x89x> done noe ctrl+alt+backspace genii ??
[08:46] <genii> x89x Did you first exit nano by ctrl-x then save the file?
[08:47] <x89x> i saved usin ctrl + o
[08:47] <jono> can anyone help me figure out why my hard drives arn't mounting?
[08:48] <dystopianray> jono: are they in /etc/fstab?
[08:48] <genii> x89x: Please reopen the file and make sure the changes are in the correct name
[08:48] <x89x> genii : its changed
[08:48] <genii> (that you did file writeout to /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[08:49] <x89x> now ctrl + alt + backspace ??
[08:49] <genii> x89x: All right, then. Previously you already made a backup, yes?
[08:49] <x89x> genii : yes :)
[08:49] <genii> x89x: OK, now then ctrl-alt-backspace. If no-go then do the command to put the backup back in
[08:50] <genii> eg: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:50] <jono> dystopianray: i don't have a etc/fstab folder
[08:50] <genii> (with sudo)
[08:50] <dystopianray> jono: it's not a folder, it's a file: /etc/fstab
[08:50] <jono> ohhhh
[08:50] <jono> just a sec
[08:50] <genii> AFK 2-3 minutes, work calls
[08:51] <jono> dystopianray: no they're not
[08:51] <jhutchins> jono: Do they appear when you do sudo fstab -l?
[08:52] <jono> dystopianray: but they had all mounted automaticaly before i switched from ubuntu to kubuntu
[08:52] <dystopianray> jono: are they internal or external?
[08:52] <jono> dystopianray: one external, 5 more internals
[08:52] <dystopianray> jono: the external one should work
[08:53] <dystopianray> jono: internal ones shouldn't be able to be mounted with a fstab entry
[08:53] <dystopianray> jono: 'without' a fstab entry i mean
[08:54] <jono> dystopianray: "sudo: fstab: command not found"
[08:54] <dystopianray> jono: it's a file
[08:55] <jono> dystopianray: what do you mean by doing sudo fstab -l then
[08:55] <dystopianray> jono: I didn't say that
[08:55] <jono> dystopianray: oops
[08:55] <dystopianray> jono: what happens when you plugin the external one? is it connected via usb?
[08:55] <genii> Hmm perhaps i should have reminded x89x to restart kdm after a failed X start
[08:56] <jono> dystopianray: it can be either usb or fire wire
[08:56] <jono> dystopianray: i have it plugged in through firewire
[08:56] <dystopianray> jono: and nothing happens?
[08:56] <meuhlol> allo?
[08:56] <jlund> I just ssh'd into my home desktop machine and I'm having a strange error with nearly every command that I run: "-bash: /usr/bin/top: Input/output error" Any ideas?
[08:57] <dystopianray> jlund: sounds like hdd problem
[08:57] <dystopianray> jlund: can you run dmesg?
[08:57] <genii> dystopianray: Yup, I concur
[08:58] <jono> dystopianray: ok...after i unplugged the power and plugged it back in it detected a drive
[08:58] <Mungallo> odd.
[08:58] <genii> POSSIBLY another instance of top running and file-locking in place. But unlikely
[08:58] <jlund> dystopianray: -bash: /bin/dmesg: Input/output error
[08:58] <Mungallo> jlund: ps -ef | grep top
[08:58] <jono> dystopianray: but i still don't have my 5 internal drives mounting
[08:59] <dystopianray> jono: how are the internal drives connected?
[08:59] <jlund> Mungallo: That command worked, but only the grep top command was listed.
[08:59] <merlin-m-29> im not sure what happened but i had an icon in top panel that showed updates and open apps like when i have pidgin running and now they are not there so if i close pidgin to panel i cant get back to it without re running it ?
[08:59] <Mungallo> jlund: weird
[08:59] <Norton> hey, i have a little problem. How do i disable the login screen so when i start up the computer it automaticly log you in
[08:59] <genii> So HDD likely dying
[08:59] <genii> ^ jlund
[09:00] <runlevelten> kcontrol > sys admin > login manager
[09:00] <jono> dystopianray: 2 via Nvidia NF4(SATA) and 4 via Silicon Image pci card
[09:00] <runlevelten> Norton: kcontrol > sys admin > login manager
[09:00] <dystopianray> jlund: sounds dieing drive or filesystem corruption
[09:00] <jlund> Alright, well that is sad. But thanks for the help guys.
[09:00] <Norton> runlevelten i get this massage "GDM (the GNOME Display manager) is not running" when i try that
[09:00] <Norton> how do i start it?
[09:00] <jlund> It has been like a million degrees back home. I'm flying back today. I should have left the A/C on the entire time I supoose.
[09:00] <dystopianray> jono: well as I said, you shouldn't be able to mount internal drives without a /etc/fstab entry, so I dont' know how gnome was able to accomplish that
[09:01] <dystopianray> jono: if I were you i'd just add some fstab entries for the drives
[09:01] <genii> Norton Kubuntu uses kdm as login manager normally. Regular ubuntu (Gnome) uses gdm
[09:01] <dystopianray> jlund: remotely reboot and see if it comes up
[09:02] <merlin-m-29> anyone know what im talkin about im a noob so i m not even sure if im askin the right stuff
[09:02] <jhutchins> Gesh, i read that "Norton Kubuntu" as equivalent to "Norton Anti-Virus".
[09:02] <runlevelten> yeah, but even so it shouldn't give you that error
[09:02] <jono> dystopianray: do i have to reinitialize my external evertime i restart?
[09:02] <dystopianray> jono: you can add a fstab entry for it
[09:02] <dystopianray> jono: but that will cause problems if the drive is disconnected
[09:02] <Norton> so what should i do, i am quite the linux newb :D
[09:02] <runlevelten> If you're running gdm, you'll need to ask someone who knows how to change it for GDM
[09:03] <runlevelten> Someone here *might*
[09:03] <genii> jhutchins: Smarta$$
[09:03] <jhutchins> dystopianray: the udev/hotplug stuff can dynamically create and remove fstab entries.  Since you can manually mount things that aren't in fstab, I see no reason the hotplug system would need to have them.
[09:03] <runlevelten> someone in #ubuntu will
[09:03] <jono> dystopianray: do you know of a good site that explains how to do the entries?
[09:03] <jhutchins> genii: No, seriously, I was about to ask you what "Norton Kubuntu" was.
[09:04] <dystopianray> jhutchins: udev/hotplug doesn't touch fstab, user is done with pmount which shouldn't be touching fstab
[09:04] <jhutchins> dystopianray: The problem is, a lot of that auto-mount stuff is handled within the windowmanager, so when it comes to gnome vs. kde things break.
[09:04] <jlund> dystopianray: I can't issue the reboot or shutdown commands without getting the same I/O error. :)
[09:04] <genii> jhutchins: I guess i need to hit Tab more so the colomn appears after the name ;)
[09:04] <genii> *colon*
[09:04] <dystopianray> jhutchins: and pmount won't mount anything that is considered 'removeable', which includes all internal drives
[09:05] <jhutchins> dystopianray: Assuming everything is working correctly.
[09:05] <jono> jhutchins: would you recommend removing gnome?
[09:05] <runlevelten> ahah
[09:05] <jono> jhutchins: for less conflicts that is
[09:06] <jhutchins> jono: THe simplest thing would be a clean install of kubuntu, but there's a script to remove gnome-desktop, I think.
[09:06] <dystopianray> jono: if you login to gnome does it all mount as expected?
[09:07] <jhutchins> jono: Try this if you decide to remove gnome: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[09:07] <jono> dystopianray: it did before i switched over...would you like me to try it now?
[09:08] <dystopianray> jono: yes
[09:09] <dystopianray> does anyone have working zeroconf?
[09:09] <jono> dystopianray: brb
[09:09] <dystopianray> neither kpf or krfb are working
[09:11] <dystopianray> is anyone using a Intel P35 based mobo? I am interested in buying one
[09:11] <runlevelten> kpf doesn't rely on zeroconf
[09:12] <runlevelten> it will work whether zeroconf works right or not
[09:12] <dystopianray> runlevelten: yes I know, but why is zeroconf not working?
[09:12] <x89x> genii :
[09:13] <x89x> it didnt work : bu i found a new thing. theres a unichome package in synaptic ! Now how do i install that ?? genii
[09:14] <salvo> ciao
[09:14] <dystopianray> runlevelten: ah nevermind, I figured out what was wrong
[09:15] <salvo> non sono su kubuntu italia????
[09:15] <genii> Norton: System Settings > User Management > Advanced > Login Manager
[09:15] <miles> !it | salvo
[09:15] <ubotu> salvo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:15] <runlevelten> wrong in what way?
[09:15] <runlevelten> ie what was it?
[09:16] <genii> x89x: Yes I'm here :) If you see it listed in synaptic then just install it
[09:16] <x89x> How genii ? I installed it but how do i choose it ?
[09:17] <dystopianray> runlevelten: pkf has different default values during setup depending on how you approach setting up a share, it needed an explicit server name given
[09:17] <dystopianray> runlevelten: kpf i mean
[09:17] <x89x> genii : it doesnt show up in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:17] <jono> dystopianray: when i switched all my drives were mounted
[09:17] <genii> x89x: One minute, searching for the exact name of driver for xorg.conf
[09:17] <runlevelten> Ah, I see
[09:17] <runlevelten> fair play :)
[09:18] <dystopianray> jono:  do the drives appear in media:/ under kde?
[09:18] <jono> dystopianray: also when i switch desktop managers my 3 screen display messes up...and i am usually only left with my center screen(out of 3)
[09:19] <dystopianray> jono: I don't know anything about multi screen setups
[09:19] <jono> dystopianray: no but i restarted, however my external is loaded
[09:20] <dystopianray> jono: you'll have to find out exactly how gnome is mounting those internal drives
[09:20] <dystopianray> jono: and find some way to replicate that behaviour in kde
[09:20] <jono> dystopianray: would you recomend trying to remove gnome assuming it's a conflict between the two window managers?
[09:21] <dystopianray> jono: that shouldn't be a problem
[09:21] <dystopianray> jono: unless you are running gnome and kde at the exact same time, there should be no conflict
[09:21] <jono> dystopianray: i know when i used to boot in knoppix off a live cd it would mount all my drives automatically as well
[09:22] <x89x> genii : i uninstalled via then too its showing up in the xconf comman in terminal !
[09:22] <dystopianray> jono: knoppix does things differently
[09:22] <genii> x89x: The driver name should be as before. via    all lowercase
[09:22] <x89x> ok. i'll try it then
[09:22] <dystopianray> jono: as I said, I don't know hwo gnome is even capable of mounting the internal drives without a fstab entry
[09:22] <dystopianray> jono: maybe ask in gnome about how it is done and how to get the same thing in kde
[09:23] <x89x> do i always have to restart comp if it goes wrong genii ??
[09:23] <jono> dystopianray: so if i were to mount the drives manually how would i go about doing that?
[09:23] <genii> x89x Remember about the backup (you have it already) Also you can start X after the backup if via is a no-go again by:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[09:23] <x89x> is there any command to login genii ?
[09:23] <dystopianray> jono: pmount /dev/blah
[09:23] <x89x> genii : i'm on UBuntu 7.04
[09:24] <x89x> is the command same for me genii ?
[09:24] <jono> dystopianray: is there a way to scan for them to find out what each one is called?
[09:24] <genii> x89x: Yes
[09:24] <x89x> thanks genii
[09:24] <genii> x89x:  <crossing fingers now>
[09:25] <jono> dystopianray: and to make sure that they are even recognized
[09:25] <dystopianray> jono: they are recognised if gnome can mount them
[09:25] <dystopianray> jono: try looking in /dev/disk/
[09:25] <dystopianray> jono: /dev/disk/by-label/
[09:27] <Rafeiro> hi :D
[09:27] <jono> dystopianray: yea...there is a bunch of references to some of my drives in there
[09:27] <Rafeiro> how do i try out alpha2 of kde? :-)
[09:27] <dystopianray> jono: pick and choose the one you want to mount
[09:28] <dystopianray> Rafeiro: it's so incomplete that it is not worth trying, but if you insist: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/
[09:28] <jono> dystopianray: also...how to a change the permissions
[09:28] <dystopianray> jono: the permissions of what?
[09:29] <jono> dystopianray: could that be why they are not mounting?  the permissions of the drive...if i try to access them i need to put in my root password
[09:29] <dystopianray> jono: you are using pmount to mount them?
[09:29] <genii> jono You can put in fstab as an option    user           but you will still need to make directories there which the regular user can write to.
[09:31] <BluesKaj> can the gnome onscreen keyboard gok, be run on kde ?
[09:32] <jono> dystopianray: i meant when they auto loaded in gnome...i needed to be root to access them....as well as when i tried to click on a drive in /dev/disk/by-label/ it said i didn't ahve permissions
[09:32] <dystopianray> BluesKaj: try it out
[09:32] <dystopianray> jono: oh
[09:32] <genii> BluesKaj: Seems to work Ok on this box. but I had regular ubuntu first then did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:32] <dystopianray> jono: you needd to be root to mount them?
[09:33] <BluesKaj> dystopianray, doing so as we speak
[09:34] <genii> jono Putting    user    as an option in fstab will allow regular users to mount the drive. But the write permissions by default will always belong to root. So you need to either change ownership of the entire drive to one user who will always be the one to write there, or to just make a directory there which a user has recursive write privelege to
[09:34] <jono> dystopianray: ummmm...i think, thats what i have been doing in gnome, just putting in my root password to gain access to each one
[09:34] <jeff__> hi, all
[09:34] <x89x> genii : didnt work :(
[09:35] <dystopianray> jono: are they actually mounted before you are entering your password or is the password being used to mount them too?
[09:35] <x89x> vesa is crap genii !!!
[09:35] <genii> x89x: Well, I am fresh out of ideas then, other than compiling from source off of via's site
[09:35] <genii> x89x: Yes, I agree
[09:35] <jono> genii: ok...i'm assuming i should just read an fstab manual and i might be able to resolve this problem on my own?
[09:35] <jeff__> my question is not specifically about kubuntu per se -- I'm trying to compile some C code into a Windows executable from my Kubuntu box.  I've been unable to find a good source for cross-compiling and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction.
[09:36] <x89x> is there any other way i can get it to work genii ??
[09:36] <genii> jono That will give you the syntax of options, etc, yes. The permissions issue is different
[09:36] <jono> dystopianray: they are in the gnome file manager...however i can't access them unless i clcik on them and put in my root password whenit prompts me for it
[09:37] <dystopianray> jono: if you set fstab entries for the drives they will be mounted automatically on boot
[09:37] <x89x> genii : can compiling make it work ?
[09:37] <genii> x89x: I gave earlier the link
[09:37] <fdoving> jeff__: mingw32
[09:37] <jono> dystopianray: thanks for the help...i will try to figure it out on my own now using the fstab entries
[09:38] <jono> genii: thanks as well
[09:38] <genii> jono np
[09:38] <dystopianray> jono: the entires will likely be different to the existing ones
[09:38] <dystopianray> jono: what filesystems are the other drives using?
[09:38] <genii> x89x:  I'll find it again
[09:38] <x89x> genii : theres one folder named CN_CX700-CN800XORG40071-kernel-src_20061107a on my desktop. i cant delete it ! say permission denied !
[09:38] <jono> dystopianray: all NTFS besides my external
[09:38] <dystopianray> x89x: who owns it?
[09:39] <x89x> me
[09:39] <dystopianray> jono: you'll likely want to setup the fstab entries to mount them so that they are accessible by your user
[09:39] <dystopianray> jono: do you need/want write support? you'll need to install and use ntfs-3g to mount them
[09:39] <x89x> i just extracted it dystopianray from an archive. and i am not able to delete it !
[09:40] <genii> x89x: do: kdesu konqueror         and delete it that way
[09:40] <dystopianray> x89x: delete it from the terminal with sudo
[09:40] <genii> (navigate to it of course etc etc)
[09:40] <dystopianray> x89x: it probably has the owner set to root, or some other user
[09:40] <genii> x89x: Or dystopianray's way
[09:41] <x89x> location /home/x89x/Desktop
[09:41] <jono> dystopianray: ummm...i don't really have time to do that now...i heard that write support for ntfs wasn't complete and it could ^$#$ my partitions up
[09:41] <x89x> now i enter sudo del /home/x89x/Desktop/FILE NAME  ???
[09:41] <dystopianray> jono: man, it's not 1997 anymore
[09:41] <mumin> test
[09:41] <mumin> hi
[09:41] <genii> x89x: Actually sudo rm /home/x89x/Desktop/<filename>
[09:41] <dystopianray> jono: but regardless, the fstab entries for the ntfs partitions will differ from the linux partitions
[09:42] <jono> dystopianray: will you be on later...i need to go for supper
[09:42] <dystopianray> jono: you'll probably want to at least specify an fmask
[09:43] <x89x> genii : will it work ?
[09:43] <x89x> the new driver ? you complie ? genii
[09:44] <x89x> genii : gives error
[09:44] <x89x> x89x@x89x:~$ rm /home/x89x/Desktop/CN_CX700-CN800XORG40071-kernel-src_20061107arm: cannot remove `/home/x89x/Desktop/CN_CX700-CN800XORG40071-kernel-src_20061107a': Is a directory
[09:44] <x89x> x89x@x89x:~$
[09:44] <KUmelli> anybody knows a german ubuntu chat?
[09:44] <x89x> dystopianray
[09:45] <KUmelli> i need some help...
[09:45] <Rafeiro> how do i install a kth file? its a theme file
[09:45] <genii> x89x: I am using Feisty here so I could compile the driver. But i have no way to test, no cards of that sort around
[09:45] <dystopianray> x89x: use rm -rf
[09:46] <KUmelli> on my feisty i have no sound :/
[09:46] <x89x> rm: cannot chdir from `/home/x89x/Desktop/CN_CX700-CN800XORG40071-kernel-src_20061107a/src' to `Utility': Permission denied
[09:46] <genii> dystopianray: Ah, it was a folder then, not a file
[09:46] <KUmelli> its no fun to shoot people without sound
[09:46] <dystopianray> x89x: sudo rm -rf
[09:46] <dystopianray> KUmelli: what sound hardware do you have?
[09:46] <KUmelli> intel highdefinitionaudio....
[09:47] <genii> x89x sudo rm -Rf /home/x89x/Desktop/CN_CX700-CN800XORG40071-kernel-src_20061107a
[09:47] <KUmelli> i thougt i have found the corret *** to run it (* i dont know the correct word for it)
[09:48] <KUmelli> but it doesent work
[09:48] <x89x> thenks genii :)))
[09:48] <dystopianray> KUmelli: can you run alsamixer ?
[09:48] <dystopianray> KUmelli: from a terminal i mean
[09:48] <x89x> i didnt put the sudo genii
[09:48] <x89x> whats sudo for genii ?
[09:48] <KUmelli> w8
[09:48] <genii> x89x: I figured as much :) sudo means: Super User Do
[09:49] <x89x> ok genii :) Btw you compiling those files ?
[09:49] <genii> x89x: In linux, the superuser is root. they have total control. but it is dangerous to be root always. so some normal users are allowed to run root things by doing sudo <command>
[09:49] <KUmelli> i opend my terminal
[09:49] <KUmelli> i dont know alsamix
[09:50] <dystopianray> KUmelli: type 'alsamixer'
[09:50] <genii> x89x I am not compiling it. I am still thinking if it is worth it for me, this is only a Pentium 2 with 128 Mb of ram, and already a bit overloaded.
[09:50] <KUmelli> its the first time i use Ku i spend the whole day on it ^
[09:50] <KUmelli> done
[09:51] <dystopianray> KUmelli: did it run? can you see the mixer controls for volume and what not?
[09:51] <KUmelli> and now?
[09:51] <genii> x89x: Also i must leave work before it would be done, so next day anyhow would be soonest to see if it completes OK
[09:51] <KUmelli> yes
[09:51] <dystopianray> KUmelli: ok good
[09:51] <KUmelli> master 80 80
[09:51] <dystopianray> KUmelli: it's likely you just have one of the necessary channels muted or too low volume
[09:51] <KUmelli> PCM 100 100
[09:51] <dystopianray> KUmelli: look at PCM too
[09:51] <dystopianray> KUmelli: is it a laptop?
[09:52] <KUmelli> IEC958 is at 0
[09:52] <KUmelli> yes
[09:52] <genii> x89x If I was using a better computer I would do it without any fuss
[09:52] <KUmelli> toshiba satelite p
[09:52] <x89x> genii : my device id was 3230
[09:52] <dystopianray> you've had no sounds at all since you installed kubuntu?
[09:52] <KUmelli> yes
[09:52] <x89x> genii means VIA Chrome 9? IGP (Integrated Graphics Core)
[09:52] <KUmelli> it worked with windows
[09:53] <KUmelli> so i think its no hardware problem ;)
[09:53] <x89x> Kumelli : i too had that problem It works now :)
[09:53] <grul> hey, is thar an picture viewing program with "next image" very much liek the famous windows application..... picture viewer
[09:53] <dystopianray> KUmelli: probably a driver problem if all the mixer controls are up
[09:53] <grul> for all pictussr in a directorty?
[09:53] <genii> x89x You had the proper source files on the desktop actually, you could have maybe tried to make the driver by yourself
[09:53] <KUmelli> IEC958 is NOT UP
[09:53] <x89x> how genii : i have never done it !
[09:54] <dystopianray> KUmelli: have you tried plugging in some headphones? I think some cards have dodgy headphone detection
[09:54] <grul> hello
[09:54] <sebbz> grul: hi
[09:54] <dystopianray> KUmelli: that one shouldn't matter
[09:54] <x89x> can u hel me do it genii >
[09:54] <sebbz> grul: asl?
[09:54] <grul> is there any program to easily view all images in a directory?
[09:54] <dystopianray> grul: gwenview?
[09:54] <sebbz> grul: TEAM EFFORT
[09:54] <KUmelli> i  get my headphones
[09:54] <KUmelli> 1 moment
[09:54] <grul> dystopianray, thanks, i'll check it out
[09:54] <sebbz> thanks
[09:54] <genii> x89x I can devote some time to it, yes. But it may be a bit painful
[09:54] <dystopianray> grul: installed by default on kubuntu
[09:54] <grul> oh
[09:55] <grul> dystopianray, thanks
[09:55] <x89x> genii : plase i'd love you helping me :)
[09:55] <x89x> really appreciate you genii
[09:55] <genii> x89x: I have 1 1/2 hours before work finishes, i can help mostly til then (unless I am called away to do some work)
[09:55] <dystopianray> grul: I don't know what windows application you are talking about, but I like gwenview
[09:55] <KUmelli> ok i got the headphones
[09:55] <grul> dystopianray, it works great
[09:55] <grul> i'm talking about the default image viewer in windows
[09:55] <x89x> We'll ttry genii
[09:55] <grul> :ddd
[09:55] <KUmelli> i d the soundtest again
[09:56] <x89x> can it be done the PM way genii ??
[09:56] <genii> x89x: No need :) It may be informative for others if we stay here also
[09:56] <x89x> ok. lets start genii
[09:56] <dystopianray> KUmelli: the arts sound test?
[09:56] <x89x> what do i do first
[09:56] <genii> x89x: first we need to re-get the source code.
[09:56] <x89x> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=101 ?? genii
[09:57] <genii> Yes
[09:57] <x89x> first option ??
[09:57] <KUmelli> the sound test in my system konfigurations
[09:57] <genii> x89x: Looking :) 1 moment
[09:58] <genii> x89x Exact model again? I forgot
[09:58] <x89x> Via Deltachrome IGP. 	3230  My board is K8M890
[09:59] <cymcy> hello #kubuntu
[09:59] <x89x> genii http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=5&ArticleID=68&P=5
[09:59] <miles> what do you type to find out all the "/" commands?
[09:59] <KUmelli> dystopianray: i tried a game too i have no sound
[09:59] <dystopianray> KUmelli: which game?
[10:00] <cymcy> I'm looking for a TNT USB stick compatible, and which I can buy
[10:00] <KUmelli> only a kde free game
[10:00] <KUmelli> wormux
[10:00] <KUmelli> i usually dont play it
[10:00] <KUmelli> i like warcraft 3 footmen frenzy ;)
[10:00] <dystopianray> KUmelli: what is your exact sound card model?
[10:01] <dystopianray> KUmelli: alsamixer should show it
[10:01] <genii> x89x: So you need file http://www.viaarena.com/Driver/cle266cn400cn-cx700cn800xorg40072-kernel-src_20061226c(20070604103608).zip
[10:01] <KUmelli> Card: HDA Intel                                                              
[10:01] <KUmelli>  Chip: Conexant CX20551 (Waikiki)
[10:01] <x89x> genii how do i download that ?
[10:02] <dhq> fdoving, did you play around with bemused
[10:02] <x89x> done genii
[10:02] <x89x> no
[10:02] <dhq> !bemused
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bemused - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <x89x> wait its 10 MB genii
[10:02] <miles> hi
[10:02] <dhq> any one have any idea bemused server
[10:02] <miles> bin
[10:02] <miles> boot
[10:02] <miles> cdrom
[10:02] <miles> dev
[10:02] <miles> etc
[10:02] <x89x> downloading genii. 2 mins left
[10:02] <miles> home
[10:02] <miles> initrd
[10:02] <miles> initrd.img
[10:03] <miles> jboss-4.0.0
[10:03] <genii> x89x: It is done downloading or still going?
[10:03] <miles> lib
[10:03] <miles> media
[10:03] <miles> mnt
[10:03] <miles> opt
[10:03] <x89x> 2 mins genii
[10:03] <miles> proc
[10:03] <miles> root
[10:03] <miles> sbin
[10:03] <miles> srv
[10:03] <mneptok> miles: please don't
[10:03] <miles> sys
[10:03] <miles> tmp
[10:03] <miles> usr
[10:03] <miles> var
[10:03] <miles> vmlinuz
[10:03] <miles> clear
[10:03] <genii> x89x: Ah, OK :) After download, you need to unzip it someplace.
[10:03] <miles> woops sorry
[10:03] <KUmelli> if you know all the advises for the terminal linux is a great sys. but its hard to learn them all
[10:03] <miles> sorry guys
[10:03] <miles> really didnt mean to do that
[10:04] <x89x> genii : where did you get that file from ?
[10:04] <genii> miles: It just gets frustrating.
[10:04] <dystopianray> KUmelli: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=349491
[10:04] <dystopianray> KUmelli: maybe try that
[10:04] <miles> i understand, im new to IRC
[10:04] <genii> x89x: I got the link from Via's site.
[10:05] <genii> x89x: From here: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=101
[10:05] <x89x> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=101 thsi one ?
[10:05] <KUmelli> ok i read it
[10:05] <x89x> okey
[10:05] <dystopianray> KUmelli: or maybe this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=531575
[10:05] <genii> Yup
[10:05] <x89x> 25 secs genii left
[10:05] <x89x> doine genii
[10:06] <genii> x89x: after it is downloaded and unzipped, we need to make sure the programs needed to compile it are on your computer. so you need to install the package build-essential
[10:06] <KUmelli> dystopianray: i think i have to improve my english ;)
[10:06] <KUmelli> i try to read it *gg*<
[10:06] <genii> work, AFK 2-3 mins
[10:07] <x89x> unzipped genii
[10:07] <x89x> whats that package genii ?
[10:08] <genii> x89x: That package has some programs like the Gnu C Compiler and some utilities like automake and other misc things so you can make C code into executable files
[10:08] <x89x> its installed genii
[10:09] <genii> x89x: Good. Now you need to go into a konsole, and be in the directory where the files got put.
[10:09] <stevo111> hi
[10:10] <genii> AFK a minute
[10:10] <stevo111> how can i enable the restricted repositories in the beta of gutsy
[10:10] <stevo111> !gutsy
[10:10] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[10:10] <x89x> genii
[10:10] <x89x> x89x@x89x:~$ cd /home/x89x/Desktop/cle266cn400cn-cx700cn800xorg40072-kernel-src_20061226c(20070604103608).zip_FILES
[10:10] <x89x> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[10:12] <jhutchins> x89x: Use tab completion to ensure proper directory names.  Parenthases are not valid characters.
[10:12] <jhutchins> x89x: If they are actually part of a path name, they must be escaped.
[10:12] <x89x> should i rename the folder ?
[10:14] <x89x> genii or jhutchins : should i rename the folder ??
[10:14] <stevo111> jhutchins; how do i enable the restricted repositories on gutsy beta?
[10:14] <jhutchins> stevo111: We will not tell you here, such questions are for #ubuntu+1 - sorry.
[10:15] <jhutchins> stevo111: We are currently supporting dapper, dapper-LTS, edgy, and feisty.
[10:15] <x89x> jhutchins : what do i do ?
[10:15] <jhutchins> stevo111: That's about all we can handle.
[10:15] <jhutchins> x89x: Use tab completion and/or learn about escaping illegal characters.
[10:15] <stevo111> ok
[10:15] <stevo111> thx
[10:16] <genii> x89x , jhutchins Back. As i look through the pdf install manual for this I see that they want also the Xserver source code as a dependency for this !! <yells a bit>
[10:16] <genii> *LARGE* download
[10:16] <jhutchins> genii: All you need is xorg-devel, iirc.
[10:16] <jhutchins> genii: That provides the headers, which is what it needs.
[10:17] <jhutchins> x89x: I've got to say, I've seen thousands of people install modern linux distros without this much trouble.
[10:17] <genii> jhutchins: "Requirements:
[10:17] <genii> (2) Xorg source code or Xorg Driver Development Kit (some distributions call
[10:17] <genii>     the SDK for X server driver module development)
[10:17] <jhutchins> x89x: Is all this just due to an oddball video card?
[10:17] <genii> Sorry for flood
[10:18] <jhutchins> Two lines ain't a flood...
[10:18] <jhutchins> genii: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[10:18] <jhutchins> x89x: It would be polite for you to read that too if genii is going to help you with it.
[10:18] <x89x> jhutchins : cmon. let give me a try !
[10:19] <genii> jhutchins: The IGP Unichrome card he has would work fine with via driver if he was not using Feisty. Buit there is an issue with IGP Unichrome vvxorg via driver and 7.04
[10:19] <genii> vvxorg=xorg
[10:19] <grul> i feel good
[10:20] <x89x> genii : what do i do ?
[10:20] <jhutchins> x89x: First read that page I sent genii.
[10:21] <jhutchins> x89x: All this work people are doing to help you is wasted if you do not learn it well enough to help the next person.
[10:22] <genii> x89x  OK, Found the entire list of packages which it needs to complete successfully. It is fairly extensive. I'm going to pastebin it
[10:22] <jhutchins> x89x: I expect you to take notes; I expect a web page explaining how to do it, at least in your native language (I will host it if necessary).
[10:22] <waylandbill> x89x is still not willing to read after two days of help?
[10:22] <x89x> i'm READIN IT !!
[10:22] <jhutchins> x89x: Good man.
[10:23] <x89x> :)
[10:23] <waylandbill> x89x: excellent!
[10:23] <jhutchins> waylandbill: He's just anxious to cut to the chase.
[10:23] <dystopianray> anyone know how to fix the openoffice draw menu entry so it is not in lost+found ?
[10:23] <waylandbill> jhutchins: go too quick and the chase will cut you down. lol
[10:23] <x89x> jhutchins : i learnt the audio issue and now can resolve it :))
[10:24] <jhutchins> x89x: Will you write that up too?
[10:24] <x89x> where ?
[10:24] <waylandbill> a wiki is a good place
[10:24] <x89x> i can help anyone here ! jhutchins
[10:25] <x89x> genii : whats up ?
[10:25] <killermach> on my fiesty box, I do "sudo iptables -L " and it's empty,  I look in /etc/init.d/ and there is no init script for iptables.. what am I missing
[10:26] <waylandbill> killermach: isn't iptables started by the kernel as a library?
[10:27] <waylandbill> killermach: I could be incorrect.
[10:27] <genii> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30259/
[10:27] <killermach> I'm trying to join a wireless connection on my laptop to my wired connection on my laptop via NAT,
[10:27] <genii> Sorry for lag, work again here
[10:28] <x89x> genii : should i download them >
[10:28] <waylandbill> killermach: using natd?
[10:29] <x89x> genii :  $ apt-get source ??
[10:29] <genii> x89x: you need to use synaptic to install those packages. you have already some, like build-essential for instance. I will also give you the URL for the entire installation manual. It is what I am working from here.
[10:54] (genii/#kubuntu) Bah work again. AFK
[10:54] <x89x> genii : -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[10:54] <x89x> rename the folder genii ??
[10:55] <dystopianray> genii: use tab completion
[10:56] <x89x> whats tab completion ?? how do i use it ?
[10:56] <dystopianray> x89x: press tab
[10:56] <dystopianray> x89x: it will auto complete directory and file names
[10:56] <hasan> hi guys
[10:57] <hasan> is there a way to sync motorola mpx220 with kubuntu ?
[10:57] <x89x> pressing tab does nothing !
[10:57] <hasan> recently immigrated from windows i donno how to do it is it possible in fact?
[10:57] <x89x> where do i presss TAB ?
[10:57] <dystopianray> x89x: press it several times
[10:57] <x89x> where ?
[10:57] <x89x> in the teminal
[10:57] <dystopianray> x89x: on your keyboard
[10:57] <dystopianray> x89x: while you are typing in a path
[10:58] <dystopianray> x89x: cd /home/x89x/Desktop/ <tab a few times>
 sorry to interupt but your nick makes me think of the movie blade runner :)
[10:59] <dystopianray> hehe
[10:59] <Nuked> I have a question... looking at my terminal output, I see that firestarter failed starting. However, when looking for open ports, I see that they are all stealthed... How can this be?
[10:59] <x89x> i did it. still gives same error !
[10:59] <dystopianray> Nuked: iptables is separate to firestarter
[10:59] <genii> OK, unfortunately I cannot stay to help more, it has been the hour and a half already. I will pastebin the entire pdf (if it works ) so someone can continue if they like.
[11:00] <dystopianray> x89x: did you let autocomplete enter the directory name for you?
[11:00] <ardchoille> Nuked: firestarter is just a gui to configure iptables, firestarter is not a firewall
[11:00] <x89x> genii : when next will you come ?
[11:00] <Nuked> distopianray: I figured as much, but I was under the impression that firestarter had to constantly make the rules
[11:00] <dystopianray> x89x: once it lists a few directoreisy ou type in the first couple of letters and press tab some more and it'll automatically complete
[11:00] <ardchoille> Nuked: No, you don't even need firestarter running to have iptables working
[11:00] <dystopianray> Nuked: I don't know, I don't really know anything about firestarter
[11:01] <Nuked> ardchoille: I know, I could have done it manually.... I just figured id doublecheck
[11:01] <Nuked> dystopianray: no problem... thanks
[11:01] <ardchoille> Nuked: You can always  sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter restart  if it makes you feel better ;)
[11:01] <x89x>  <dystopianray> It doesnt show that directory !!
[11:02] <dystopianray> x89x: are you sure?
[11:02] <x89x>  <dystopianray> it shows the zip file of that
[11:02] <Nuked> nosrednaekim: I figured out that it was the ati drivers causing my computer to hang
[11:02] <genii> x89x: Next I will be here tomorrow 8:30 AM my time (EST in Toronto)
[11:02] <dystopianray> x89x: have you unzipped the zip file?
[11:02] <frax> ciao a tutti qualcuno mi aiuterebbe a inserire skyper per kubuntu?
[11:02] <frax> grazie
[11:02] <x89x> yes  <dystopianray>
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> Nuked: lol, i don't even remember you,
[11:02] <ardchoille> lol
[11:02] <Nuked> wow
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> Nuked: ther are SOOO many people
[11:02] <x89x> file name is cle266cn400cn-cx700cn800xorg40072-kernel-src_20061226c(20070604103608).zip_FILES
[11:02] <dystopianray> x89x: does 'ls' show the directory?
[11:02] <Haus> .
[11:02] <genii> x89x jhutchins dystopianray  et al: The entire install for this process: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30264/
[11:03] <genii> Later
[11:03] <Haus> switched to bitchx
[11:03] <Nuked> nosrednaekim: should I file a bug report
[11:03] <x89x> genii
[11:03] <x89x> bye
[11:03] <x89x> take care. thanks for the help :)
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> Nuked: probably not.
[11:04] <x89x> dystopianray : how do i use ls ?
[11:05] <nosrednaekim> Nuked: ask over in #ubuntu-motu
[11:05] <dystopianray> x89x: enter that directory and type 'ls' and press enter
[11:05] <Nuked> nosrednaekim: I am afraid that I may incur their wrath
[11:06] <x89x> dystopianray it shows the directory in the ls
[11:06] <dystopianray> x89x: so use cd and tab completion to enter the directory
[11:07] <x89x> dystopianray doesnt show there in cd !
[11:07] <Haus> what is the command to see all hard ware in my computer?
[11:07] <jerware> hi
[11:07] <jerware>   libnet-perl: Depends: perl (>= 5.6.0-16) but it is not going to be installed
[11:07] <jerware> why.
[11:07] <dystopianray> Haus: lspci ?
[11:08] <dystopianray> x89x: are you pressing tab?
[11:08] <x89x> dystopianray yes !
[11:08] <Haus> dystopian i know that one... there is another one that i want that gives a more detailed description
[11:08] <dystopianray> x89x: pastebin what you see after pressing tab a few times
[11:08] <jerware> perl -v  =>   This is perl, v5.8.8 built for i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi
[11:08] <dystopianray> Haus: lshal? dmidecode? lspci -vv?
[11:09] <Haus> thats the one lspci -vv
[11:09] <Haus> thankx mate
[11:10] <x89x> dystopianray : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30268/
[11:11] <dystopianray> x89x: cle266cn400cn-cx700cn800xorg40072-kernel-src_20061226c(20070604103608).zip_FILES/
[11:11] <dystopianray> x89x: is that not the directory?
[11:11] <x89x> is is
[11:11] <x89x> it is
[11:11] <dystopianray> x89x: so tab complete into it
[11:11] <dystopianray> x89x: type _ then keep pressing tab
[11:13] <x89x> dystopianray : i cant choose cle266cn400cn-cx700cn800xorg40072-kernel-src_20061226c(20070604103608).zip_FILES/
[11:13] <dystopianray> x89x: did you type _ ?
[11:13] <x89x> it doesnt come up in autocomplete
[11:13] <x89x> where ?
[11:13] <dystopianray> x89x: it reaches a match after completing the zip files name
[11:13] <dystopianray> x89x: you add a _ to remove the ambiguity then continue tab completing
[11:14] <x89x> x89x@x89x:~$ cle266cn400cn-cx700cn800xorg40072-kernel-src_20061226c(20070604103608).zip_FILES/_ like that dystopianray ??
[11:14] <dystopianray> x89x: no, remove that last _ and press enter
[11:15] <dystopianray> x89x: and you'll need to put 'cd' at the start of all that
[11:15] <x89x>  cd cle266cn400cn-cx700cn800xorg40072-kernel-src_20061226c(20070604103608).zip_FILES/
[11:15] <x89x> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[11:16] <dystopianray> x89x: did you tab complete that directory name?
[11:16] <dystopianray> x89x: it should automatically escape brackets
[11:17] <x89x> dystopianray : can you type it for me ?
[11:17] <HayaBusa> can someone please tell me how i can search for other IRC channel / join? thanks
[11:17] <x89x> dystopianray : it doesnt come up !
[11:17] <dystopianray> x89x: just put \ before the brackets, dont' worry about tab completion
[11:18] <dystopianray> HayaBusa: what client are you using?
[11:18] <NickPresta> HayaBusa, http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[11:18] <HayaBusa> Kanversation
[11:18] <NickPresta> HayaBusa, alternately, you can do "/list" and then join a channel you list
[11:19] <HayaBusa> THanks
[11:19] <x89x> dystopianray : done
[11:19] <dystopianray> x89x: ok good, now you can continue what you were intending to do
[11:19] <x89x> TAB completion didnt do it ! x89x
[11:19] <faires> !automount
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <faires> !mount
[11:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:20] <faires> !DiskMounter
[11:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[11:20] <dystopianray> x89x: it does do it, you just dont' know how to use tab completion properly
[11:20] <dystopianray> faires: what exactly do you want to do?
[11:20] <sjck> Hey, how to gemove the usb/cd-link on desktop? :)
[11:20] <x89x> where do i learn dystopianray ?
[11:20] <dystopianray> x89x: google for 'linux terminal beginner' or similar
[11:21] <faires> dystopianray: I just want to check if automount is already installed, and what exactly it automatically mounts
[11:21] <NickPresta> linuxcommand.org is a good place to start
[11:21] <dystopianray> sjck: remove the usb device or cd media
[11:22] <clouder> Can someone help me get my KMenu back?  It just disappeared.  I have it auto hide and one time I went down it just didn't show up
[11:24] <dystopianray> clouder: alt+f2, then run 'kcontrol', then turn off auto-hide in the panel config
[11:24] <faires> !nvidia
[11:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:27] <clouder> dystopianray: thanks
[11:28] <frax> aa
[11:31] <stevo111> #alsa yo sup
[11:31] <faires> Does someone knows what's (if there's any) the similar at kubuntu of System -> Administration -> Restricted Device Drivers?
[11:31] <faires> (That's on Ubuntu)
[11:32] <xerosis> faires: being worked on for gutd
[11:32] <xerosis> *gutsy
[11:33] <faires> Ah, OK... :(
[11:42] <laervian> has anyone here speed problems with compiz fusion?
[11:42] <laervian> I see my gtk applications (such as firefox) dragging when I use compiz fusion :(
[11:49] <_step_> #espaciolinux
[11:53] <binarybandit_> hey
[11:57] <frax> ciao ci sarebbe qualcuno di cosi' gentile che mi sa spiegare come installare skyper per kubuntu 7.04?
[11:58] <frax> ciao ci sarebbe qualcuno di cosi' gentile che mi sa spiegare come installare skyper per kubuntu 7.04?
[11:58] <Haus> sup niggaz
[11:58] <Haus> god damn i regret that i installed ubuntu... i should have gone with kubuntu
[11:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !ohmy | Haus
[11:58] <ubotu> Haus: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:58] <evilmm> Haus: lol
[11:58] <Haus> : )
[11:59] <Haus> just for yalls info im a black man
[11:59] <Haus> but im kind
[11:59] <Haus> :D
[11:59] <binarybandit_> can I ask a n00b question her?
[11:59] <binarybandit_> here*
[11:59] <NickPresta> Haus, it's the internet. Either talk properly or try not to talk at all. There are no such thing as "niggaz" on the internet. ;)
[11:59] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> frax: What is your native language?
[11:59] <frax> ci sono italiani?
[12:00] <NickPresta> !it | frax
[12:00] <ubotu> frax: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:00] <binarybandit_> not me :'(
[12:00] <Haus> nickpresta :P
[12:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> NickPresta: Beat me to it.
[12:00] <frax> grazie
[12:00] <Haus> lol just joking... im not black
[12:00] <Haus> but i listen to snoop dogg though
[12:00] <Haus> ;)
[12:00] <frax> cosa significa?
[12:00] <binarybandit_> I get a command 0xa0 timeout error on boot from a live cd, is that a problem sith my sata settings?
[12:00] <frax> Forwarding to another channel
[12:00] <frax> ?
[12:00] <Haus> and i am a nerd, true.. and i gots tha thick glasses
[12:01] <Haus> :_D
[12:01] <waylandbill> Haus: really? how thick? :-D
[12:01] <NickPresta> frax, I assume you want to install skype on Kubuntu?
[12:01] <Haus> waylandbill... have you ever seen nasas telescope glass? ;)
[12:01] <binarybandit_> anyone know?
[12:02] <Haus> sudo apt-get install skype... or just get the debian skype off their url.. i use it and it works fine
[12:02] <Haus> love skype... no need for the phone bill no moe
[12:03] <Haus> openmoko? is that the iphone clone?
[12:03] <Haus> the open source iphone LOL xD
[12:04] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Haus: Yes, but it's cheaper than the GreenPhone, and I haven't heard of any other decent Linux-based phones.
[12:04] <Haus> all this is just nonesenss DOES IT RUN LINUX? :D
[12:05] <Haus> ima checky youtube for movies on openmoko
[12:05] <Haus> hold on yall nigaz
[12:05] <binarybandit_> haus, your gonna get a boot up yer backside
[12:06] <binarybandit_> :p
[12:06] <jerry> #ubuntu-cl
[12:06] <Haus> ;D
[12:06] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> binarybandit_: ? what?
[12:06] <Haus> im on bitchx so yall betta recognize
[12:06] <Haus> im tha top dog
[12:06] <Haus> i even do my urls with elinks text bassed url browser
[12:06] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ...
[12:06] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Not impressed...
[12:07] <Haus> god damn i am surfin del.icu.us
[12:07] <binarybandit_> I get a command 0xa0 timeout error on boot from a live cd, is that an issue with my sata settings?
[12:07] <Rockj> Hey. Im wondering how I may be able to play this stream in firefox? http://www.adressa.no/tv/index.jsp?id=1413
[12:07] <Haus> WhtWolfTeraDyne lol maybe you have some browser that reads zeros and onces that would be even more leet
[12:07] <NickPresta> Haus, why did you come here?
[12:07] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Haus: Nope. Just Konqueror, SeaMonkey, and Lynx
[12:08] <waylandbill> !repeat | binarybandit_
[12:08] <ubotu> binarybandit_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:08] <Haus> NickPresta some peeps in here helped me with my ACPI troubles earlier today