[02:40] <SourceContact> hi, I'm trying to commit to a trunk on launchpad that I had previously checked out, but keep getting an error message. Was wondering if anyone knew what I was doing wrong
[02:40] <SourceContact> bzr: ERROR: Can't rename /srv/sm-ng/push-branches/00/00/11/fb/.bzr/repository/lock/pending.y4fm3qorqhypzr76hdni.tmp to /srv/sm-ng/push-branches/00/00/11/fb/.bzr/repository/lock/held: /srv/sm-ng/push-branches/00/00/11/fb/.bzr/repository/lock/held already exists
[02:47] <SourceContact> note, there were no bzr commands between checkout and a test commit: 'bzr checkout sftp://sourcecontact@bazaar.launchpad.net/~timevaulters/timevault/trunk' followed by 'bzr commit'
[02:47] <SourceContact> another branch seems to be working fine (the 0.6 branch)
[03:58] <qubodup> hello anybody here?
[04:00] <qubodup> hello
[04:10] <thumper> SourceContact: that seems weird
[04:10] <thumper> SourceContact: why use checkout instead of branch?
[04:12] <thumper> SourceContact: I see that ~timevaulters/timevault/trunk had a commit 11 minutes ago
[04:13] <SourceContact> thumper: right Amaranth renamed the trunk to something else and obsoleted it
[04:13] <SourceContact> we couldn't figure out the problem
[04:14] <thumper> SourceContact: and checkout vs branch?~
[04:16] <Amaranth> jamesh told me to use checkout :)
[04:16] <SourceContact> Amaranth was walking me through the process
[04:16] <jamesh> huh?
[04:16] <thumper> jamesh: doesn't checkout give a bound branch?
[04:16] <Amaranth> yes
[04:17] <Amaranth> well, if that means what i think it means :)
[04:17] <thumper> Amaranth: you proably don't want that
[04:17] <thumper> well maybe you do
[04:17] <Amaranth> well, he is a recent convert from svn
[04:17] <Amaranth> figured it'd be easier
[04:17] <thumper> Amaranth: cross merging is easier IMHO
[04:17] <jamesh> thumper: yes it does
[04:18] <jamesh> for team branches with multiple committers, I do recommend checkouts
[04:18] <Amaranth> and it's how i always used launchpad after (i think) jamesh said to do it like 6 months ago when i was asking around for help
[04:18] <jamesh> since it offers a conflict resolution behaviour that most people are used to dealing with
[04:20] <Amaranth> anyhow, that wasn't the problem
[04:21] <thumper> jamesh: fair enough
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #126473 in malone "Debian changelog incomplete, incorrect, and misleading" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126473
[04:27] <jamesh> that looks like a dupe
[04:27] <ScottK> I looked before I filed it.
[04:27] <ScottK> Doesn't mean it's not, of course.
[04:28] <jamesh> ScottK: the changelog info Launchpad collects is from the .changes files from uploads
[04:28] <ScottK> Right and that's not a "changelog"
[04:28] <jamesh> yes it is
[04:28] <ScottK> In Debian packaging, changelog has a very specific meaning.
[04:29] <ScottK> Additionally, it's not all of them, only the ones currently in the archive.
[04:29] <ScottK> So, from that perspective even it's missing history.
[04:30] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[04:32] <jamesh> ScottK: I've marked it as a duplicate of bug 55795
[04:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 55795 in soyuz "+changelog includes misleading information related to package versions and authors" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/55795
[04:33] <ScottK> jamesh: Thanks.  Sorry I missed that.
[04:33] <jamesh> ScottK: no problem.  We prefer that people err towards filing bugs rather than not filing them
[04:33] <jamesh> marking dupes is not difficult
[04:36] <ScottK> OK.  As a developer, I can tell you that this bug causes a very strong negative reaction in me.  If you'd just pick something other than changelog to call it.
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #126477 in launchpad ""Show group photo" doesn't" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126477
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #126478 in malone "Action buttons on listing pages are poorly aligned" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126478
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #126482 in rosetta "test_xpi often fails at firefox_template.importFromQueue()" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126482
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #126485 in soyuz "Distribution's "All packages" page is lame" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126485
[08:24] <stephanbuys> hi all, I am trying to push some code to launchpad (newly registered project) but I get the error:
[08:24] <stephanbuys> bzr: ERROR: File exists: u'/~stephan-impilinux/bluezconnect/.bzr': mkdir failed: unable to mkdir
[08:24] <stephanbuys> any ideas?
[08:28] <soren> Does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dosfstools/+bug/119881 take forever to load for anyone else as well?
[08:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119881 in dosfstools "Please sync dosfstools (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released]  
[08:28] <soren> Hm... Not for ubotu at least.
[08:29] <Hobbsee> soren: seems OK here
[08:29] <soren> Hobbsee: Yes, I finally got a response, too. 
[08:30] <soren> Hobbsee: I got impatient twice and it timed out on me once. Now it seems to work.
[08:32] <Nafallo> Hobbsee: linkpot.net :-)
[08:32] <Hobbsee> Nafallo: i use tinyurl.com usually
[08:34] <thumper> stephanbuys: what command are you using to push?
[08:34] <thumper> thumper: is looks to me as if you are not pushing to an appropriate url
[08:34] <thumper> stephanbuys: ^^^
[08:34] <stephanbuys> thumper, bzr push --create-prefix sftp://stephan-impilinux@bazaar.launchpad.net/~stephan-impilinux/bluezconnect
[08:35] <stephanbuys> :-)
[08:35] <thumper> stephanbuys: you don't need --create-prefix and you are missing a name for the branch
[08:35] <thumper> ok
[08:36] <thumper> you need sftp://stephan-impilinux@bazaar.launchpad.net/~<team-name>/<project>/<branch name>
[08:36] <thumper> in this case
[08:36] <thumper> the team you are pushing to is just yourself
[08:36] <thumper> the project would be bluezconnect?
[08:36] <stephanbuys> thumper, correct
[08:36] <thumper> and you need a branch name: main? trunk? dev?
[08:36] <stephanbuys> thumper, ok - dev seems appropriate
[08:37] <thumper> I tend to name my branches based on what it's doing
[08:37] <thumper> feature-xyz or whatever
[08:37] <stephanbuys> thumper, cool - looks like something is happening 
[08:37] <thumper> good
[08:38] <stephanbuys> thumper, thanks :-) (bzr n00b)
[08:38] <thumper> np
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #126496 in launchpad "administer distribution page gives you time without timezone" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126496
[09:17] <spiv> stephanbuys: btw, what version of bzr do you have?  When I try that I get ": ERROR: Permission denied: '/~spiv/garbagegarbagegarbagerhubarb': [Errno 13]  Directories directly under a user directory must be named after a product name registered in Launchpad <https://launchpad.net/>."
[09:18] <stephanbuys> spiv, bzr: ERROR: File exists: u'/~stephan-impilinux/bluezconnect/.bzr': mkdir failed: unable to mkdir
[09:19] <spiv> stephanbuys: right, I saw.  I'm wondering why you got that instead of the nicer error I see.
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #126501 in launchpad-bazaar "SFTP mkdir errors say "product" instead of "project"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126501
[10:05] <Fujitsu>  /win 21
[10:05] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #126509 in malone ""Most Frequently Reported Bugs" is incorrect capitalization" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126509
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #126516 in malone "would like limited access control for status field changes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126516
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #126518 in blueprint "Sprint blueprint listing pages have no "Register a Blueprint" button." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126518
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #126519 in blueprint "Marking blueprint Obsolete falsely says it's "Complete"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126519
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #126522 in blueprint "Blueprint listing doesn't include the blueprints' titles" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126522
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #126523 in malone "debian bug watcher thinks 'wontfix' bugs are 'confirmed'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126523
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #126538 in blueprint "Blueprint "superseded by" list not in alphabetical order." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126538
[01:02] <iwj> I bounced a message to Malone (with Resent-To etc.) and it seems to have evaporated.  Would anyone care to help ?  One of the missing messages is Resent-Message-ID: <18076.40201.426823.407236@davenant.relativity.greenend.org.uk>  Resent-To: 126536@bugs.launchpad.net
[01:03] <iwj> My mail log says:
[01:03] <iwj> 2007-07-17 11:42:52 1IAkVw-0003xj-00 => 126536@bugs.launchpad.net R=lookuphost T=smtp H=fiordland.ubuntu.com [82.211.81.145]  C="250 Ok: queued as A5BCAB682B3"
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #126541 in blueprint "Blueprint "Mark superseded" pages use "specification" rather than "blueprint"." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126541
[01:18] <BjornT> iwj: it looks like that message was rejected since it was too large. there should be a bug open on that you should get a notification for such errors (and i can't remember what's the reason for limiting the message size)
[01:20] <iwj> Oh.  Err, I happen to have the data on an HTTP server so I'll refer to that instead.
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #126543 in launchpad "Portlets should be flexibly sized to accommodate larger fonts." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126543
[01:27] <cprov> good morning !
[02:19] <Kmos> @schedule
[02:19] <ubotu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 17 Jul 15:00: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 17 Jul 19:00: Technical Board | 18 Jul 20:00: Edubuntu | 19 Jul 20:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Jul 15:00: Kernel Team | 25 Jul 12:00: Edubuntu
[02:46] <bmm> Hi everybody. I'm writing a C++ program and was wondering what the most common translation system was for using in combination with launchpad. Would that be gettext or is there a C++ version of the system?
[02:54] <jordi> bmm: gettext should be good
[02:54] <bmm> jordi: thanks!
[02:54] <jordi> bmm: it's what everyone uses
[02:54] <bmm> Then that's what I'm looking for :-D
[02:54] <jordi> yeah
[04:39] <bmm> OMG gettext is like copying your computer into your project directory... I ffing hate the autotools at the moment..
[04:39] <bmm> Sorry, wanted to vent that somewhere ;-)
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #126566 in malone "OOPs in new +filebug page when bug is complete" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126566
[05:57] <elmo> launchpad is going down for emergency maintenance for 2-3 minutes in 5 minutes
[05:58] <elmo> (Actually 3 minutes sorry - the announcement got misplaced)
[06:04] <elmo> launchpad should be back
[06:04] <sacater> its back
[06:05] <sacater> oh
[06:05] <sacater> answers.launchpad.net is failing
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #126576 in launchpad-bazaar "should be rss or atom feed of changes to a branch" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126576
[06:57] <ubotu> New bug: #126585 in launchpad-answers "When there are few FAQs, allow directly selected any of them" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126585
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #126587 in launchpad "Similarity search shouldn't filter out keywords when there are less than three results" [Critical,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126587
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #126593 in malone "Implement stub HTTP server to enable more extensive automated testing of external bug tracking" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126593
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #126602 in malone "kernel error with set/get keycode" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126602
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #126630 in launchpad-bazaar "Still possible to register branches at sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/path" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126630
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #126631 in malone "checkwatches.py breaking when transitioning status to Won't Fix" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126631
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #126640 in malone "canTransitionToStatus does not use user parameter" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126640
[11:17] <geser> cprov: Hi, can't PPA use packages from PPA during build?
[11:18] <geser> see http://librarian.dogfood.launchpad.net/7763873/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-amd64.ardour_1%3A2.0.2-2ubuntu2%7Eppa3_NEEDSBUILD.txt.gz
[11:18] <geser> it fails with WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[11:18] <cprov> geser: it does use its own packages ... let me check 
[11:20] <cprov> geser: it might be something miss-configured in the amd64 builder.
[11:24] <cprov> geser: archive-admins are already away. Can you, please, file a bug about this problem in product 'soyuz' tag 'ppa' ?
[11:25] <geser> sure
[11:25] <geser> ok, will wait on the i386 builder now
[11:25] <cprov> geser: I will try to sort this out tomorrow, It's a known issue (IIRC)
[11:26] <cprov> geser: ok, thanks for the feedback
[11:26] <geser> btw: the amd64 seems to got stuck in a loop now, it retries the package again and again
[11:26] <cprov> geser: btw, you will be able to retry the build as soon as we fix the problem 
[11:27] <cprov> geser: yes, your package became a GIVENBACK build (the builder thinks the archive is broken when apt fail and keep retrying the build)
[11:29] <geser> thanks for your help
[11:40] <elmo> launchpad website going down for emergency maintenance, in 5 minutes - ETD is < 5 minutes
[11:51] <elmo> LP backup 
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #126654 in soyuz "The PPA builder fails to install packages from PPA as they can't be authenticated" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126654
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #126656 in malone "externalbugtracker.get_external_bugtracker is not complete" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126656