=== hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gutera_away [n=gutera@200.175.181.233.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RoninX341 [n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RoninX341 is now known as etank === bryce [n=bryce@c-67-169-207-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:26] ryanakca: I've uploaded a version of devmapper that disables the symlink business in (only) the udeb. I'd be interested to know whether tomorrow's daily build fixes that /home weirdness for you. [12:27] ryanakca: I also fixed another glitch in partman-auto visible on the guided partitioning menu that wasn't fixed by that devmapper change === bryce [n=bryce@c-67-169-207-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-9e930879f92890f6] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Exit,] [12:35] cjwatson: http://pastebin.ca/622545 [12:35] it doesn't look like it's mounted seperately === lmveloso [n=lmveloso@200-193-152-9.mganm702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === lmveloso [n=lmveloso@200-193-152-9.mganm702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul_ [n=chuck@mail.edgewater.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:15] ryanakca: right, could well be something to do with this /dev/dm-* thing in that case; try tomorrow? 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[02:43] elpargo: have you filed a bug? [02:43] Burgundavia, I want to confirm it first, but I did search bugzilla and found something similar but it seems it was dismiss as invalid. [02:44] link to the bug? [02:44] http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fdebian-bugs-dist%40lists.debian.org%2Fmsg364564.html&ei=3hCcRuGKFaLiepfg7KUK&usg=AFQjCNEoinnG9YivPD0hrB9C8J87rmsHWQ&sig2=glyn_8Whi8fe_YfPy9GraQ [02:44] ups sorry [02:44] http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg364564.html damn google... === elpargo_ [n=elpargo@121samana81.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:48] I believe there is a crash between vmware's virtual network devices and network manager, from the little I know vmware creates a virtual that points to eth0 which I think it's not letting network manager set eth1 [02:49] interesting [02:49] have you chatted with upstream networkmanager? [02:49] yay logout fade with compiz === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:51] Burgundavia, not yet I wanted to see if it was a problem with the package itself. === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Gone] [02:52] elpargo: I have no idea. NM is ubuntu does carry a fair amount of patches === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dabaR [n=dabaR@wnpgmb09dc1-159-42.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:59] Burgundavia, seems to be a driver issue http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2006-March/msg00257.html [03:00] elpargo: ah === mjr [i=mjr@aulis.sange.fi] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fbond [n=fab@pool-71-169-140-159.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gadi [n=romm@static-71-249-255-248.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === aquo [n=aquo@dslb-088-073-210-098.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A71F6D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sevrin [n=sevrin@ns1.clipsalportal.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kyled185 [n=kyle@dpc67142242193.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:18] sorry if this is a noob question, but I'm trying to make a "hello world" program using kdevelop and qt4, however when I try to build the project I get "*** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!." I have autoconf installed however and that's what's confusing me...any ideas on what's going wrong? [05:20] ack sorry I just noticed the topic, I'll ask in the proper channel [05:20] :) === gustavold [n=gustavo@201.21.235.173] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong hands kyled185 for being a good boy? === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.4.94.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-20-14.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione_ [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kyled185 [n=kyle@dpc67142242193.direcpc.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [05:51] anyone know why the ping command isn't localized? i just checked the code and there are no gettext macros, so even if the phrases exist on the system for some language, it won't use them [05:52] seems like basic things like that would be the first things to be localized === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Development of Ubuntu (not support, even with gutsy; not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Main will freeze on Tuesday for Tribe 3 preparations === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Sat Jul 14 18:28:18 2007 === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@cl-266.bru-01.be.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:59] how would i troubleshoot why my fan is on full speed, and my system is incredibly slow? [06:00] LongPointyStick: laptop? === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:01] LongPointyStick, ps aux ? [06:01] and top [06:01] etc [06:01] if i wanted to know why things are slow, i'd use "top" [06:02] as for the fan, i know that my bios on my laptop currently isn't supported well, so i can't change my fan speed [06:02] but i hear that if i could, i'd be able to go to the /proc/acpi directory and find something about my fan speed there === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:03] something like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30187/ :) [06:04] Hobbsee: Is your hard drive appearing as an sd, or hd device? [06:04] superm1_: haha, ya. [06:07] superm1_: nothing of particular interest [06:07] in htop [06:07] apart from massive amounts of both cores being used [06:08] but no indication of what process? [06:08] doviende: yes [06:08] superm1_: nope [06:08] superm1_: it starts while the machine is booting - fairly early in teh boot sequence === Hobbsee should turn "quiet" off, and see [06:09] TheMuso: sda, when it's working properly === Hobbsee has rebooted now [06:09] oh ok. Thgouth it may have been a DMA issue. [06:09] or something along those lines. === lionel [n=lionel@ip-211.net-81-220-127.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SourceContact [n=SourceCo@ip24-252-111-89.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fbond [n=fab@pool-71-169-140-159.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wolfeon is now known as dross === nrpil [n=nrpil@s5591f679.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Eleaf [n=ethan@69.39.24.28] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:31] hi, I have a question about the package nvidia-glx-new. [06:31] I recently booted to find X would not start due to an api mismatch (nvidia kernel & xorg kernel not same version), X has worked before fine. I let my computer be off for about a week, and when I rebooted, X didn't work. [06:32] It turns out installing nvidia-glx-new makes X work okay again. Why is this package not installed automatically as an update if it creates such a fatal situation? === ScottLij [n=scott@24-180-196-49.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508DA36A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ijuz_ [n=ijuz@p54ABEE56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:54] asac: it's inherited from the Debian source package; Bart is better addressed === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:09] peace === Eleaf [n=ethan@69.39.24.28] has left #ubuntu-devel ["At] === dross is now known as david_ross === infinity_ [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:43] nice, shiny bling... [07:43] hi Fujitsu === micahcowan [n=micah@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:45] Amaranth: ping [07:47] Hobbsee: pong [07:47] Amaranth: were you planning to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/107109 ? [07:47] Launchpad bug 107109 in compiz "No "New Login" for user with Desktop effects enabled" [Critical,Triaged] [07:48] Hobbsee: not really fixable [07:48] well, i can make compiz bail out and load metacity [07:48] oh, i commented on that bug awhile ago :P [07:49] we can't check 'direct rendering: no' because thanks to AIGLX and Xgl that doesn't mean anything [07:50] fun [07:51] i suppose we could jump through some hoops to see if you have more than one X running [07:52] Amaranth: come on boy [07:52] heh [07:52] Amaranth: (1) xvinfo | grep Xgl is a good test for Xgl [07:52] well, it's not that hard [07:52] jdong: AIGLX though [07:52] Amaranth: why doesn't new session work for AIGLX?? [07:52] ah [07:52] nvm [07:52] jdong: no no, i'm saying with AIGLX checking direct rendering is useless [07:52] RTFMBR [07:53] uh [07:53] don't know that one [07:53] Malone Bug Report [07:53] :D [07:53] Could we go crazy and spawn multiple Xgl sessions by default? [07:53] Hobbsee: also i can't fix anything right now because seb128, dholbach, and mvo are at GUADEC and i'm not :P [07:54] Amaranth: that's what i figured, too [07:54] RAOF: dude that was the original idea :) [07:54] I got it! [07:54] how about we have a master X server that spawns child Xgl fullscreens for each user? [07:54] MUAHAHAHAHA [07:54] Amaranth: Aaah. So, why not. Oh, of course. That'd mean Xgl needs to be in main [07:55] jdong: dude that was the idea [07:55] jdong: with some minimal window management in gdm to do a neat transition when you switch users [07:55] LP: #121135 [07:55] Amaranth: IMO that's not a bad idea at all [07:55] bug 121135 [07:55] Launchpad bug 121135 in compcomm-plugins-main "/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121135 [07:55] jdong: that's what i said [07:55] RAOF: meh we just suck patches from Novell buddies [07:56] Amaranth: I'd totally go for that.... hell Xgl is a lot faster on most system rendering 3D effects anyway [07:56] Hobbsee: I'm not core-dev :) [07:56] the only painful thing is scrolling :) [07:56] Hobbsee: need to wait for mvo to get anything done [07:56] Amaranth: true [07:56] Amaranth: there are other core devs around [07:56] unless you want to snag that package from bzr and upload it [07:56] that one's fixed, anyway [07:57] jdong: Or David could just do an Xgl *release* finally. [07:57] was sponsored on june 30 [07:57] if it's a change i haven't ran past mvo and/or seb128 i'm not going to do anything with it :) [07:57] RAOF: haha [07:58] as in, yoru debdiff was uploaded on june 30 for it, but the bug wasnt marked as released. may have been while LP was broken [07:58] RAOF: this reminds me of ion? [07:58] Amaranth: Bah, just feed crazy untested code through the Hobbsee spigot [07:58] hah [07:58] RAOF: sounds good [07:58] Hobbsee: I've got this copy rendering patch.... [07:58] dream on. [07:58] i want to freeze main today [07:58] eh? [07:59] yay, down to 22! [07:59] Amaranth: tribe 3 [07:59] we got another tribe coming up? [07:59] Amaranth: see the /topic [07:59] yep [07:59] wow, that was fast [07:59] it just changed to tuesday here :) [07:59] only for you who doesnt coordinate them :) [07:59] it's 4pm tuesday now, but i'll have to wait for a while, yes [07:59] 22 critical bugs? [08:00] bug 122949 has an _easy_ fix [08:00] Launchpad bug 122949 in compiz "Tray icons take a LONG time to appear with compiz enabled" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122949 [08:00] Amaranth: not critical. [08:00] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=New&field.status%3Alist=Incomplete&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_contact=&field.milestone%3Alist=470&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&f [08:00] ield.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.tag=&field.has_cve.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&search=Search [08:01] http://tinyurl.com/2krybt [08:01] Ouch [08:01] that's a bad url. === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-120-159.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:01] Hobbsee: I'm going to check /var/log/snort.... and I think your name will be in there :D [08:02] :P [08:02] Hobbsee: why doesn't 122949 show up on there? [08:02] Amaranth: because it's not milestoned for tribe 3? [08:02] oh [08:02] in that case, i can clear compiz off your list ;) [08:02] unless those guys stop drinking and get on IRC :) [08:02] haha [08:03] yeah, well. it looks like gnome* will have to be deferred [08:03] but i get the suspicion that some of this stuff is already fixed, but not closed [08:03] nice to see so many open bugs there [08:04] how can it be Incomplete and milestoned for tribe-3? [08:04] it == a bug === dholbach [n=daniel@pD9E277CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:05] ajmitch: well, i'm shoving a lot of them off, so... === ajmitch hugs dholbach [08:06] dholbach! [08:06] Amaranth: because some people are milestoning things weirdly. *shrugs* [08:06] hey dholbach! [08:06] good morning [08:06] hey Amaranth, ajmitch, Hobbsee! === Hobbsee hugs dholbach === dholbach hugs Hobbsee back === Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:12] Good morning [08:12] morning pitti! === pitti hugs Hobbsee [08:12] pitti: you uploaded cupsys yesterday - is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/119289 fixed in that upload? i'm guessing that it is [08:12] Launchpad bug 119289 in cupsys "make backend invocation compatible to upstream" [High,In progress] === Hobbsee hugs pitti back :) [08:13] morning pitti [08:13] morning pitti [08:13] Hobbsee: no, it is not; that's horribly complicated [08:13] pitti: was it you who was assigned the hardware db stuff? [08:14] pitti: right. i presume you want to defer that, as per the discussions a couple of days ago? [08:14] Burgundavia: no, it's not assigned ATM [08:14] Hobbsee: yes, I just didn't get to it [08:14] pitti: moving to -desktop [08:15] pitti: deferred [08:18] oy, ajmitch :) [08:18] ajmitch: any plans to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/85194 ? [08:18] Launchpad bug 85194 in samba "samba's package postinst script shouldn't return an error if samba daemon can't be started (e.g. if smb.conf file is incorrect or is removed)" [Medium,Confirmed] [08:24] ogra's not at guadec, is he? [08:26] pitti: also, were you looking into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-fr-base/+bug/122277 ? [08:26] Launchpad bug 122277 in language-pack-fr-base "gutsy language pack doesn't ship the gdebi translation" [Undecided,New] === StevenK waves to pitti [08:27] Hobbsee: oh, I'll do that today [08:27] hi StevenK [08:27] pitti: great, thanks [08:27] Hobbsee: erk, I need to upload new base langpacks, to minimize the space [08:27] pitti: Can I bug you about a sync? :-) [08:27] StevenK: yes [08:28] pitti: get to it :) === pitti summons carlos [08:28] pitti: Bug 124900 [08:28] Launchpad bug 124900 in gtkpod "Please sync gtkpod-0.99.10, libgpod-0.5.2 from debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124900 === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:30] StevenK: so, I shall sync gtkpod and also gtkpod-aac, and then kipi-plugins will build? [08:31] I wasn't aware gtkpod-aac was in Debian. === persia thought gtkpod-aac needed a new special Ubuntu upload [08:31] pitti: kipi-plugins has built already. [08:31] StevenK: so what about the gtkpod-aac and kipiplugins tasks? [08:32] I think that was the submitter being over excited. :_) === Dezine [i=enforcer@c-71-61-192-14.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Dezine [i=enforcer@c-71-61-192-14.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [08:33] StevenK: synced; I'll just close the gtkpod task, and leave the others to you [08:34] pitti: Thanks === dholbach [n=daniel@pD9E277CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:34] I was going to be lazy and ask tepsipakki to deal with gtkpod-aac. [08:40] morning [08:40] morning fabbione! === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:47] *** WARNING: IMPENDING MAIN FREEZE *** === dholbach [n=daniel@pD9E277CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione uploads a couple of new kernels === Hobbsee beats fabbione with a big stick [08:53] you need more than a big stick for me :P === Hobbsee gets out the large piece of concrete === dholbach [n=daniel@pD9E277CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Development of Ubuntu (not support, even with gutsy; not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Main FROZEN for Tribe 3 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:05] jdong: can you test https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/126469 for me? [09:05] Launchpad bug 126469 in gnome-session "[patch] logout fadeout when compiz is running" [Medium,Triaged] [09:05] jdong: really want to get it into tribe-3 :) === Hobbsee waves the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! threateningly at Amaranth [09:07] hehe [09:08] Hobbsee: it's related to high priority spec ;) [09:09] hahaha [09:09] good luck === Hobbsee therefore demands kde4, finished, in main, right now. "it's related to a high priority spec, so it's allowed!" [09:09] heh [09:09] haha [09:09] mine is plausible :) [09:10] soren: the samba upload was just caught by the freeze [09:10] Hobbsee: Good luck with that. :-) [09:10] soren: how important is this for tribe3? === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:11] oh, you've already frozen [09:11] dang [09:11] it'd be nice if people could test the patch that Amaranth pointed to (bug 126469) [09:11] Launchpad bug 126469 in gnome-session "[patch] logout fadeout when compiz is running" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126469 === pitti hugs dholbach for fixing bug #122949 [09:11] Launchpad bug 122949 in compiz "Tray icons take a LONG time to appear with compiz enabled" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122949 === munckfish [n=munckfis@82-41-13-152.cable.ubr02.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:12] pitti: :D [09:12] who would have thought disabling session management would break gnome-session? ;) [09:13] it makes compiz working for me again (I have window decorators), but now it seems to take like 30-40 seconds for the logout dialog to show up -- I personally suspect a broken configuration or something, but it'd be nice to know for sure === dholbach is happy with window decorators [09:13] dholbach: 30-40 seconds? that rather sounds like another incarnation of the session connection bug? [09:13] dholbach: did you wait long enough after login? [09:13] pitti: yeah, but that was because gnome-session looked for things that gnome-power-manager did not send anymore :) [09:14] ahhhhh! ;-) [09:14] pitti: I'd appreciate it if you pushed it through. [09:14] ok, I was too impatient [09:14] dholbach: ^ I thought that got fixed for tribe1?? [09:14] pitti: yes yes yes it was [09:14] :-) [09:14] pitti: Just for the sake of testing. [09:14] dholbach: it works now? [09:14] Amaranth: yes, it does - pitti was right: I was too impatient [09:14] pitti: More testing of the previous samba version won't do us much good anyway. [09:14] dholbach: the problem with compiz is that it does not connect to the session and thus needs a minute, until the other programs in the session (dbus related, etc.) can start up [09:15] dholbach: ok, good *phew* :) [09:15] Amaranth: did you test your patch with metacity? === dholbach will do that now [09:15] dholbach: yes [09:15] if that works out ok, I'll upload it [09:15] i say so in the bug [09:15] soren: ok; you specifically tested the client lib, right? (through nautilus, etc.) [09:15] bbiab [09:15] just start metacity and click logout [09:15] bleh, no need to start a new session :P [09:15] pitti: Both command line utils, server and library (through nautilus), yes. [09:16] soren: you are the samba person? [09:16] Hobbsee: That's sort of a dangerous question to answer. [09:17] hah [09:17] soren: waved through [09:17] pitti: Thanks! [09:17] Hobbsee: that reminds me of http://uwstopia.nl/blog/2007/07/as-heard-on-guadec [09:17] Hobbsee: Do you need anything in particular or are you just looking for who to blame when it doesn't work? [09:17] soren: the latter [09:17] soren: and who to assign bugs to when it's broken, and needs fixing. [09:17] Hobbsee: Then it's someone else. :p [09:17] hahahaha [09:18] Hobbsee: Server team. [09:18] soren: you're screwed over by the TIL principle [09:18] which you're on, right? :P [09:18] Hobbsee: True, but if you assign to the server team instead, someone else might grab it if I ignore it for long enough. :) [09:18] haha [09:19] soren: i wield the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . ignoring me is not in your best interests. [09:19] :P === Amaranth fears [09:19] Nor would it be very easy with that scary thing waving in one's face. [09:19] haha, indeed :) === jml [n=jml@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:20] Hobbsee: did you see the nice earrings I bought in Birmingham? [09:21] simira: i did! :) [09:21] simira: they're very pretty === dholbach [n=daniel@pD9E277CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elpargo [n=elpargo@121samana81.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:23] Amaranth: I uplaoded the gnome-session change [09:23] hi anyone around that can kick some lamers form #ubuntu [09:23] it works nicely for me too [09:23] they are spamming the chat.... [09:24] dholbach: awesome [09:24] elpargo: they were gone before you even said something here :) === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:25] elpargo: i saw with the -ops call [09:25] elpargo: call it earlier, we'll respond earlier. [09:25] :) [09:25] hehe thanks guys [09:26] I really don't get why people do that... so annoying nothing to gain out of it. === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.4.94.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === oni [n=oni@p5483249E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:40] cjwatson_: I guess it won't hurt too much to move bug 118744 to tribe4 and just live with the workaround for some more time? [09:40] Launchpad bug 118744 in gfxboot "no gfxboot in gutsy with new syslinux" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118744 [09:40] gout another spammer ... :( [09:40] elpargo: Please use #ubuntu-ops for this, as opposed to here. [09:40] elpargo: just keep calling !ops when it happens and we'll keep on it, no need to talk about it here [09:40] oh I didn't knew about that channel or command will do that from now on. [09:43] pitti: did you demote freetype1? thx anyway [09:43] doko: yes, I did, nothing wanted it any more; you still need it? [09:43] pitti: no, I did remove the last user =) === pitti hugs doko [09:44] pitti: Was python-eye3d or somesuch also on the list to be demoted? [09:44] doko: cruft-- :) [09:44] StevenK: no, I didn't touch that [09:44] pitti, Hobbsee: permission to upload lvm2. debdiff: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/lvm.debdiff [09:44] pitti, Hobbsee: it's a safe change.. and tested [09:44] affects only sparc [09:44] pitti: I was just curious if it was, since libgpod jumped to mutagen from it. [09:44] it fixes install on lvm when running on virtual disks [09:45] fabbione: looks fine to me [09:45] (well it fixes lvm on vdisks... but also the install) [09:45] pitti: ok thanks === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:45] pitti: it's uploaded.. i guess you can allow it or not as you prefer [09:46] fabbione: I guess we really want that, so that LDOM can be properly tested on tribe3? [09:46] Tonio_: Ping, I'd like your opinion about amarok when you have a spare sec. [09:46] StevenK: I'm there :) [09:46] hi everyone [09:46] pitti: we don't officially support LDOM yet. so it's not a blocker of any kind but i would like to have it in [09:47] pitti: it's a table extension... no code change.. [09:47] fabbione: right; I'll accept it once it's in the queue [09:47] pitti: but seriously.. i am not going to force this down your throat [09:47] Tonio_: I uploaded a rebuild-only change last night, which failed ... due to some other library changing it looks like. [09:47] pitti: cheers [09:48] dholbach: how save is that gnome-session upload? [09:48] StevenK: hum, interesting.... [09:49] StevenK: can't look at that right now, but I'm adding this t my todo.... [09:49] StevenK: I'll have a look at the buildlog at 12 === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:50] Tonio_: Cool, thank you. :-) [09:52] pitti: sigh. I guess so :-( [09:52] pitti: very [09:53] Amaranth: it works with metacity, too? [09:53] yep [09:54] yes, I tested it with metacity too [09:55] accepted [09:55] hmm, I wonder if we can demote dhcp to universe in time for tribe-3 if I do a few seed merges? [09:55] woohoo === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:55] right after tribe-3 i'll fix gksu too :) [09:56] that's the one i was originally working with but i noticed a comment saying they'd snagged that code from gnome-session and figured it might be a little saner [09:56] sadly it was [10:00] fabbione: pitti looks safe === jinty [n=jinty@145.Red-83-56-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:06] ogra! [10:06] hey [10:06] Amaranth: you can fix it now. it'll sit in the queue [10:06] ogra: i come to poke you about tribe 3 stuff [10:07] oh sigh, totally forgot about tribe 3 [10:07] ogra: main is already frozen :/ === ogra is fully drugged, had a jaw surgery yesterday [10:07] well, freezing :) [10:07] ogra: ouch [10:07] eek [10:07] ogra: spin around in a circle three times [10:07] ;) [10:07] ogra: to make it easy for you then, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/122796 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/121547 [10:07] Launchpad bug 122796 in ltsp "ltsp default dhcpd.conf broken on tribe2 installs" [High,Triaged] [10:08] Hobbsee, no, yay ... i was running around with an exploding head for the last 10 days [10:08] ahhh... [10:08] Hobbsee, thats fixed, wortse is that i hhave to rewrite the udeb ... [10:08] ogra: which? [10:08] there are two bugs there - are they both fixed? === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:10] Hobbsee, oh, sorry, i (as ubotu) missed the second one [10:10] ogra: ahh [10:10] i think its bug 121547 [10:10] Launchpad bug 121547 in ltsp "[Gutsy] LTSP chroot building process hangs at 50% on Tribe1 CD" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121547 [10:10] yeah [10:13] ogra: so is https://launchpad.net/bugs/121547 an edubuntu-blocker? [10:13] Launchpad bug 121547 in ltsp "[Gutsy] LTSP chroot building process hangs at 50% on Tribe1 CD" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:14] Hobbsee, well, if i dont make it it needs to be at least in the release notes again (which is a bit disconcerting) [10:14] ogra: is it that hard to fix the dhcp configuration? [10:14] ogra: that one is pretty nasty [10:15] ogra: right. [10:15] pitti: ogra said the dhcp one was fixed, and the other one wasnt. [10:15] ah, cool [10:15] pitti, thats already done here, i havent uploaded yet (its a native package, i like to collect stuff before bumping the version) [10:16] (assuming i read correctly( [10:16] you did [10:17] \o/ [10:21] stgraber: ping === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:25] Are Debian removals still being automagically processed? === cassidy [n=cassidy@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:25] Hobbsee: pong [10:25] stgraber: any chance we can get the iso testing site updated for tribe 3? [10:25] Were Debian removals ever automagically processed? [10:26] Hobbsee: yes [10:26] infinity_: according to http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/gutsy/ubuntu/latest/ amd64 and ppc have built the 17.1 images, but not i386. can you look into terranova again, and see why i'ts misbehaving, please? === amitk_ [n=amit@a81-197-135-210.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:27] Hobbsee: Can I add all isos or are some still generating ? [10:27] stgraber: um, they're all invalid, except for kubuntu desktop, i think [10:27] i'm not sure how your adding works === aquo [n=aquo@dslb-088-073-248-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:28] hi mvo [10:28] mvo! [10:28] hey pitti [10:28] I add isos, then if they are invalid and have to be rebuilt I disactive them, but it's a nonsense to add isos to disable them just a minute later, it's better to wait till we have the new set ready [10:28] hey Hobbsee === StevenK waves to mvo [10:29] mvo: please dont break the livefs', right before the main freeze. [10:29] stgraber: right, OK, that's fine. i wasnt sure how much prework needed to be done. [10:29] Hobbsee: I did not do the compiz upload [10:29] Hobbsee: but I can do a upload now to fix the breakage [10:29] Hobbsee: we currently have network so I better be quick ;) [10:29] stgraber: it seems like we're going to have cds ready for testing in stages [10:30] mvo: true, but it appears that you did the control changes. [10:30] mvo: please do [10:30] Hobbsee: I put the Tribe-2 isos as tested and set tribe-3 as the release currently tested [10:30] mvo: keep the netwrok there :) [10:30] stgraber: neat, thanks :) [10:30] c [10:30] ugh [10:30] damn kvm [10:31] infinity_: unping, then. === seb128 [n=seb@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:35] greetings, seb128 [10:36] hey seb128 === seb128 [n=seb@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:37] pitti: Can I get you to poke through the gtkpod-aac upload I just did? [10:37] GUADEC network, not good === azeem_ [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-47-129.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:38] StevenK: no problem, it's multiverse [10:38] pitti: Thanks [10:39] seb128: that's a shame [10:39] yeah [10:40] just enough network to break compiz ;) === Hobbsee hunts out seb128 [10:41] :P [10:41] hey Hobbsee [10:41] hiya [10:42] let's see what I can break today ;) === infinity_ is now known as infinity === azeem_ is now known as azeem [10:44] seb128: go ahead. [10:44] seb128: archive is frozen. [10:44] seb128: so i'll just deny you :P [10:44]