| bspencer | Kain, ok, done | 12:33 |
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| bspencer | I'm looking at my Q1 ultra on the back and don't see 110 or a100 | 12:33 |
| Kain | do you know the processors speed? | 12:34 |
| Kain | the a100 is 600 the a110 is 800 | 12:34 |
| Mithrandir | cat /proc/cpuinfo? | 12:34 |
| bspencer | yeah | 12:35 |
| bspencer | 800 | 12:35 |
| Kain | What price point is yours | 12:35 |
| Kain | 800? or 1100? | 12:35 |
| bspencer | good question. my hard earned dollars didn't buy it. let me ask | 12:35 |
| Kain | lol good stuff | 12:35 |
| Kain | Yea all the major US providers are saying it has an a110 tho the documentation says different | 12:36 |
| Kain | bspencer, by the way thanks | 12:37 |
| bspencer | np | 12:37 |
| Kain | Q1UAY01 is the 800/900 dollar price point model, the documentation claims it has a a100. The sites that are selling it are saying an 800mhz a110. I wonder if they pulled a mid release upgrade and eliminated the a100 model | 12:39 |
| bspencer | yeah, I see that on Amazon.com | 12:45 |
| bspencer | my specs are A110, 800Mhz, 60GB drive. | 12:46 |
| bspencer | Intel got a bundle deal cause we got 10 or something, not sure. I couldn't find the price so i can't compare. :-\ | 12:46 |
| Kain | Ah ok | 12:48 |
| bspencer | on amazon I see a 40gb for $935 and 60gb for $1200. both claim a110/800Mhz. | 12:48 |
| Kain | thats the one with the cam | 12:48 |
| bspencer | good luck | 12:48 |
| Kain | bummer, thanks | 12:48 |
| bspencer | mine has a cam | 12:48 |
| bspencer | era | 12:49 |
| Kain | DO you like the q1 ultra? | 12:49 |
| bspencer | the screen is bright and clear | 12:50 |
| Kain | Awesome | 12:50 |
| bspencer | I haven't typed a lot with it to get familiar with the keyboard | 12:50 |
| Mithrandir | Kain: it depends on what you want to use it for. | 12:50 |
| bspencer | I don't like the mouse | 12:50 |
| bspencer | the mouse is on the left thumb which isn't very adept at moving things around | 12:50 |
| Kain | Yea I want it as a media device or a browser | 12:50 |
| Kain | I'd be using the sylus i guess | 12:50 |
| Mithrandir | the keyboard is just a tiny bit too little, the mouse is fairly crap, but the touchscreen works well. | 12:50 |
| Mithrandir | it's really just a small laptop sans a useful keyboard and with touchscreen | 12:51 |
| Kain | Yea | 12:54 |
| Kain | I doubt I will be typing with it | 12:54 |
| Kain | other then web addresses and logins. I really hope UbuntuMobile comes out well. It will make not using the mouse alot nicer. | 12:54 |
| Mithrandir | we might be able to get a good onscreen keyboard working for it, but I wouldn't hold my breath, most of the on-screen keyboards I've used have only been ok-ish | 12:55 |
| bspencer | Kain, at the current stage don't get too excited about the UI on the Samsung. | 12:55 |
| bspencer | in Linux | 12:55 |
| Kain | I know | 12:55 |
| bspencer | ok. Just want to set expectations that it is a work in progress. | 12:55 |
| Kain | The mockups are nice but I assume they are far away | 12:55 |
| bspencer | things wiggle, but it isn't joy | 12:55 |
| bspencer | yet! | 12:56 |
| Mithrandir | mockups are mockups. :-) | 12:56 |
| Kain | Yes they are. | 12:56 |
| Kain | Maemo is enjoyable tho | 12:56 |
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| Kain | Ugh, how can I set the Xephyr display in the command line? | 06:13 |
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| Kain | Ok anyone know how to startx before I run start-hildon? | 06:45 |
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| mfrey | rusty: do you have any experience with the python loader for the hildon desktop? | 05:52 |
| rusty | what kind of experience? | 05:54 |
| rusty | if created some simple apps | 05:54 |
| mfrey | I downloaded the loader and built it -- but | 05:54 |
| mfrey | I can not get it to load a home applet written in python | 05:54 |
| rusty | what are you calling the loader.... the python bindings? | 05:54 |
| mfrey | I am talking about this https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/branches/maemo-af-desktop/python-hildondesktop/ | 05:55 |
| mfrey | This project allows home applets to be written in python | 05:55 |
| rusty | mfrey, no, i have not tried this | 05:58 |
| mfrey | ok | 05:58 |
| rusty | what do you see... does it crash or just not show the applet? | 05:58 |
| mfrey | When I try to set the home applet in the config file to be of type python and list the python code it complains about not being able to find it | 05:59 |
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| rusty | mfrey, yea, enabling python home applets is in the plan... but i think you are the first to try | 06:01 |
| mfrey | rusty -- ok I will keep at it. I think I am close | 06:02 |
| rusty | cool | 06:03 |
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| UbMobie | So what's the details behind the tools being created? What languages and APIs would one want to start looking at? | 06:26 |
| Mithrandir | you will be able to develop in various languages, at least python, C, C++, hopefully java and flash at some point. | 06:27 |
| Mithrandir | you want to look at hildon and gtk+ as the UI toolkit. | 06:28 |
| UbMobie | I've always been interested in GTK. I'm mostly a web programmer with Java/.NET skills.= | 06:31 |
| UbMobie | Any good books to reccomend a migration? | 06:32 |
| UbMobie | Also, are there any sites for hildon? It's a bit of an ambiguous name. | 06:32 |
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| Mithrandir | http://maemo.org/development/ might be useful for you | 06:34 |
| agoliveira | I think my pidgin went nuts. I just can't login at freenode with it. | 06:34 |
| agoliveira | I'm using bitchx now and it's fine | 06:34 |
| agoliveira | Weird... | 06:34 |
| UbMobie | I can't wait to see the tools and simulation environments streamlined and made accessible via Ubuntu. That just really puts everything at the tip of your fingers :) | 06:37 |
| UbMobie | Certainly makes learning easier. | 06:37 |
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| agoliveira | Found the problem: the crypto plugin for pidgin, for some reason prevented me to login to freenode. | 06:44 |
| agoliveira | rusty: Hi Rusty. I'm preparing a document about the image builder based on my tests and this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/ImageCreation. Do you have any outstanding changes on it that differ from the spec I must be aware of? | 06:46 |
| rusty | oh... yea, that wiki needs updating | 06:47 |
| rusty | at the very least the launching script changed names | 06:47 |
| rusty | let me look at at | 06:47 |
| Mithrandir | agoliveira: I've talked with Ross today and he showed me the pimlico apps; they look very much like what we'll want so please update the user applications to note that. | 06:47 |
| agoliveira | Mithrandir: Hi. I've made a note on it already thius mornign and it is on my todo list to check it out. | 06:48 |
| Mithrandir | agoliveira: there's no need to check it out, I have had it demoed here at guadec. | 06:50 |
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| agoliveira | Mithrandir: I understand that but I want to see it for myself if you don't mind. | 06:50 |
| agoliveira | Mithrandir: or do you think it fits so well over GPE for instance that I can just put this on? | 06:51 |
| Mithrandir | GPE does not have a hildon port, does it? | 06:51 |
| agoliveira | Mithrandir: No, it does not. | 06:52 |
| Mithrandir | well, that pretty much settles it, IMO. :-) | 06:52 |
| Mithrandir | we need hildon apps | 06:52 |
| Mithrandir | and not having to port apps is good | 06:52 |
| agoliveira | Mithrandir: I agree with you. I just wanted to weight the benefits. Does it have sync? Maybe bind for syncml? | 06:57 |
| Mithrandir | it uses EDS, so any sync solution which knows about EDS can be used | 06:57 |
| agoliveira | Mithrandir: BTW, I tought Pimlico was only partially ported for Maemo. | 06:57 |
| agoliveira | Mithrandir: If it is all there so indeed it's hard to beat. | 06:57 |
| Mithrandir | two of three apps are ported, the last one is undergoing a rewrite which will be followed by a port. | 06:57 |
| Mithrandir | for tasks, the port took a whopping two hours. | 06:57 |
| rusty | agoliveira, i updated the wiki | 06:57 |
| agoliveira | rusty: Thanks. | 06:57 |
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| agoliveira | Mithrandir: That's really cool. | 06:57 |
| MishaS | agoliveira, i'd like to suggest an e-book reader for your list :) | 07:17 |
| === MishaS . o O (too late, it's already there) | ||
| MishaS | sorry for the noise | 07:22 |
| agoliveira | MishaS: No problem. It would be good to have a contender for fbreader tough | 07:23 |
| MishaS | agoliveira, i'd probably not suggest anything as i'm one of its authors :) | 07:27 |
| agoliveira | MishaS: Hmmm... that's a fairly good reason :-D | 07:34 |
| agoliveira | MishaS: Anyway, congrats! | 07:34 |
| MishaS | agoliveira, thank you :) | 07:35 |
| MishaS | agoliveira, btw, i'm looking at the page and it starts with 2nd level headers, any particular reason for that? 1st level headers look better for me if you add a TOC | 07:35 |
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| agoliveira | MishaS: I guess I took a template to do it but it might be also just a mistake. | 07:38 |
| MishaS | agoliveira, if you don't mind i'll put a new version and if does not look nice, i'll put the old one back :) | 07:39 |
| MishaS | agoliveira, or actually i'd rather add TOC first... | 07:39 |
| agoliveira | MishaS: bemy guest ;) | 07:40 |
| agoliveira | s/bemy be my | 07:40 |
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| MishaS | agoliveira, have a look. it now has a rather useful TOC | 07:49 |
| agoliveira | MishaS: Looks nice to me. Thanks. | 07:52 |
| MishaS | good | 07:53 |
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| agoliveira | http://browser.garage.maemo.org/ | 08:07 |
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| agoliveira | rusty: Did you remove the start-hildon-desktop script from the hildon-desktop package? | 08:44 |
| rusty | me... no... bspencer, did you? | 08:44 |
| bspencer | agoliveira, I didn't remove anything from bazaar code | 08:45 |
| bspencer | if that's what you are asking | 08:45 |
| agoliveira | Hmmm... weird | 08:46 |
| bspencer | but I wasn't sure what happened to hildon-desktop during the sprint | 08:46 |
| rusty | agoliveira, but... is this something you added directly to the bzr repo? | 08:47 |
| rusty | our changes were based off the svn repository | 08:47 |
| rusty | bspencer, isn't that right? | 08:47 |
| agoliveira | rusty, it was added some time ago by Tollef. I supposed that he removed by accident with the merge. | 08:48 |
| bspencer | agoliveira, that could be. I think Mithrandir might have done a quick updtae to push our hildon-desktop into bazaar | 08:49 |
| agoliveira | rusty, or you did as the 2 last commits were yours ;) | 08:49 |
| bspencer | sorry if that's the case | 08:49 |
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| rusty | any kernel guys listening? | 09:05 |
| rusty | Mithrandir, image creation is breaking for people since we are attempting to install linux-generic, but that meta package is not available in the Gusty repository right now | 09:06 |
| rusty | kylem, you listening by chance? | 09:06 |
| kylem | aye, i'm here. | 09:07 |
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| rusty | kylem, i noticed that there is no linux-generic in gutsy | 09:08 |
| kylem | lemme take a look, one sec. | 09:08 |
| kylem | er. seems to be there. | 09:10 |
| rusty | really? | 09:10 |
| rusty | in which repository? | 09:10 |
| kylem | ~$ apt-cache madison linux-generic | 09:10 |
| kylem | linux-generic | 2.6.22.8.8 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/restricted Packages | 09:10 |
| kylem | linux-meta | 2.6.22.8.8 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Sources | 09:10 |
| kylem | oh. | 09:10 |
| kylem | er. wtf. | 09:10 |
| kylem | ah. right. because they depend on l-r-m, they have to be in restricted (otherwise if you didn't have restricted, they'd be uninstallable anyway) | 09:12 |
| rusty | ok... yea, i see now | 09:13 |
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| CharliefJohnson | Is Tollef around - anyone know? Not sure what time it is where he is at. | 09:35 |
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| agoliveira | CharliefJohnson: He's at GUADEC. | 09:40 |
| agoliveira | CharliefJohnson: and I guess it's be around | 09:41 |
| agoliveira | CharliefJohnson: Sorry | 09:41 |
| agoliveira | CharliefJohnson: I mean it's around 8:41 PM there I guess. | 09:41 |
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| agoliveira | http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Category:Moblins | 10:05 |
| agoliveira | Read and laugh... or weep :) | 10:05 |
| agoliveira | rusty, I hate to say it but a lot of changes we have made on hildon-desktop was lost when you uploaded the revision 238 :( | 10:20 |
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| agoliveira | /s/was/were | 10:23 |
| agoliveira | rusty, bspencer, I need some quick explanations here. | 10:27 |
| bspencer | agoliveira, shoot | 10:29 |
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| (bspencer/#ubuntu-mobile) agoliveira, one file down (start-hildon added and pushed) | 10:56 | |
| (bspencer/#ubuntu-mobile) agoliveira, working on rules... | 10:56 | |
| bspencer | agoliveira, oh, that was too easy. Sorry I was confused | 11:02 |
| bspencer | git clone rsync://moblin.org/repos/projects/hildon-desktop.git | 11:03 |
| bspencer | let me know if I should change | 11:03 |
| agoliveira | bspencer: Looks ok. | 11:06 |
| bspencer | agoliveira, ok. I'm glad I looked at that. I'll change a couple things in our script. | 11:07 |
| bspencer | agoliveira, this assumes that hildon-theme-mobile-basic package is in Ubuntu repo | 11:07 |
| bspencer | agoliveira, do you know if that is the case? | 11:07 |
| agoliveira | Let me check | 11:07 |
| bspencer | if not, then you can change the theme back to "plankton" | 11:08 |
| bspencer | (hildon-theme-plankton) | 11:08 |
| agoliveira | bspencer, we have plankton only | 11:08 |
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| agoliveira | bspencer: What do you prefer? | 11:16 |
| agoliveira | I'll pause for a few minutes (wife complains that my day is over :) ) to a coffee and be back to close this issue. | 11:17 |
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