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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Kubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.kubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs!https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Large pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please.
=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by fdoving at Wed Jul 11 20:35:07 2007
(intelikey/#kubuntu) ok. so is that needed when specifying the addy on the ifconfig command to bring up an interface or will it default to something reasonable for a lan ?01:12
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(bordy/#kubuntu) Any ideas as to why my bouncy cursor would freeze when I start up, and then my Home Folder stalls out on me making it unreachable?01:12
Biovoreifconfig <interface> <ipaddress> netmask <netmask>01:12
strungstephenhello just started using kubuntu wonder how this works01:12
jerwarei have libnet1 installed, yet the make fails when i attempt to install Perls interface to libnet01:12
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NickPrestastrungstephen, how what works?01:12
Biovorestrungstephen: ban spanking new to linux/unix ?01:12
strungstephenhaving problem logging on as root anyone help01:13
Biovorethere is no root01:13
savetheWorldBiovore: And I'm in!01:13
Biovoreyay!!!01:13
WhtWolfTeraDyne!sudo01:14
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:14
NickPrestastrungstephen, you don't login as root for security reasons and because the account doesn't exist by default01:14
savetheWorldBiovore: thank you for the help. Its appreciated.01:14
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Biovorenp01:14
intelikeyBiovore ok.    i think i understand all that.   so for a two box lan    ifconfig eth0 172.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.2      will that work?01:14
savetheWorld(or the account exists but has no password set on it so you cant login)01:14
strungstephensome things that i want to do is says i must be in administratormode01:14
Biovoremight want 255.255.255.401:14
cdnpenguinactually root does exist by default01:14
Biovoreneed space for a broadcast01:14
NickPresta!sudo | strungstephen01:14
ubotustrungstephen: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:14
Biovoreand a default gw01:14
intelikeyoh ok.01:14
savetheWorldsudo su -   ^-^01:15
intelikeysavetheWorld or sudo -i01:15
savetheWorldBiovore: route picked it up immediately01:15
Biovoreroute -n to see your routing table01:15
cdnpenguinip route01:15
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intelikeyBiovore will it hurt anything to make it .16 say  or will that just add fluff ?01:16
Biovoreintelikey: if your on an isolated lan.. who cares..  10.0.0.0/8  have fun..01:16
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strungstephenthanks for the link.  since im new to linux could you tell me a good source for learning to use the command line01:17
intelikeyheh   that would be like having the whole internet in the lan but nothing actually there   ???     tons of addresses  to one place ?     or am i talking through my hat again?01:18
NickPrestastrungstephen, linuxcommand.org01:18
WhtWolfTeraDynestrungstephen: If you want a good podcast for linux beginners, check out Linux Reality. http://www.linuxreality.com/01:19
strungstepheni noticed when i installed dapper drake it told me security updates were not installed what does this mean01:19
Biovoreintelikey: basicly.. 10.0.0.0/8 172.16.0.0/16 192.168.0.0/16 are non routable networks you can use as lan network IP's01:19
Biovoreeveryone seems to pick the 192.168 address but you could use 172.16.xx.xx or 10.xx.xx.xx address as well01:20
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intelikeyright i knew the  10 172 192 ranges are reserved  but that's about the end of what i knew.01:21
BiovoreInfact, alot of ISP's uses the 10.0.0.0 ip's for there internet network.. (like comcast cable users)01:21
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BiovoreYou will also notice that there are no 48.0.0.0/8 IP address on the net..01:21
Minataku192.168.0.XXX and 192.168.1.XXX are safe, and personally I don't think there are any 192.168.XXX.XXX out there at all01:22
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intelikeyMinataku there can't be,  they are reserved01:22
cdnpenguinyou can use anything in the 192.168.0.0/1601:22
Biovoreyup01:22
cdnpenguinbehind a NAT you can use them01:22
MinatakuAh, that /16 at the end I didn't quite understand01:22
Biovoreyeah.. 192.168.0.0 are non-routables.. meaning internet routers will not route them..01:23
cdnpenguin192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.25501:23
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Biovorealso applies to 10.xxx.xxx.xxx and 172.16.xxx.xxx01:23
cdnpenguinanother way of expressing a netmask of 255.255.0.001:23
cdnpenguinSorry, that is part of my day job01:24
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MinatakuI knew it was that, but I've never known what the numbers applied to01:24
Minatakucdnpenguin: Oh, I don't mind at all01:24
cdnpenguina good explanation is the tcpip guide01:24
MinatakuI wouldn't have expressed interest if I didn't care :301:24
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intelikeycdnpenguin link ?01:25
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cdnpenguinhttp://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_IPClasslessAddressingClasslessInterDomainRoutingCI.htm01:25
intelikeyty01:25
cdnpenguinwas already working on it :)01:25
cdnpenguinnp01:25
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Biovoreor look up RFC191801:26
cdnpenguinthe guide is much nicer read01:26
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cdnpenguinmy 65 year old dad can read it01:26
Biovorergr01:26
Minatakucdnpenguin: Yes, but can he understand it?01:27
cdnpenguinI bought the book, and yes he can01:27
MinatakuI can read a book on theoretical physics, doesn't mean I'll get it ;301:27
MinatakuXD01:27
MinatakuSorry, just being pedantic :301:27
intelikeythey wont allow dl01:27
cdnpenguinI got a free copy from my LUG to review.  Like it so much I bought the PDF+another copy for the office01:27
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cdnpenguinFor such a dry topic the book he wrote (and the web site) is easy to read with out sacrificing technical accuracy01:28
BluesKajcdnpenguin, I'm almost 64 will it put me to sleep if I read it in bed ? :)01:29
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cdnpenguinIt depends if you are interested or not :)01:29
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intelikeythe website is unreadable in links   lines are too long  text is cut off01:29
BiovoreAt 64, your wife next you puts you to sleep :-P01:29
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BluesKajat 64 wife has her own bedroom :)01:29
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cdnpenguinthe one complaint is that the site is not CLI friendly01:30
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intelikeycdnpenguin yep01:30
cdnpenguinI find the GUI navigation awkward, but it is a goldmine of info01:30
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cdnpenguinassuming of course that you are interested in this stuff01:30
Biovorewww.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1918.html  <-- Address Allocation for PRivate Internets01:31
cdnpenguinI personally find http://lartc.org an interesting read... but I am aware that I am not exactly in the middle of the bell curve on this one01:31
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intelikeyBiovore cli friendly too  :)01:34
Biovoretext always is..01:34
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savetheWorldBluesKaj: at 64, 50% of wives have their own house.. :-)01:35
cdnpenguinheh heh01:35
intelikeyheh it's all text   only the format changes01:36
cdnpenguinNot if you are married to a divorce lawyer01:36
BluesKajyeah , she has 50% :)01:36
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intelikeytwo story home ?   you have your story and she has hers01:36
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intelikeythat's my story and i'm unnimus about it.01:37
savetheWorldIf she's a lawyer shee gets 80% and then bills you her fees for the remain 25%   (yes it adds up to 105%)01:37
BluesKajnope , 2 level backsplit ...but I do have my own window :)01:37
intelikeyyeah divorce is a bad thing.   shouldn't be any such thing.01:38
BluesKajmy daughter divorced a lawyer01:38
cdnpenguinunfortunate01:39
jamescan anyone help me manually mount a sata drive01:39
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intelikeywell ok,   maybe there shouldn't be any such thing unless someone maries a lawyer01:39
jamesi have been reading the faq but get errors at gksudo gedit /etc/fstab01:39
jamesgedit is for ubuntu01:40
cdnpenguinjames do you at least know the device name01:40
intelikeyjames     sudo mount </dev/something> </mount/point> <-o args.if,needed>01:40
Biovorejames: kdesu kate /etc/fstab01:40
cdnpenguinie. /dev/sdc01:40
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intelikeyexample; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows/ -o umask=00001:41
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cdnpenguinsudo aptitude install ntfs-3g01:42
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cdnpenguinthen you can have write access to ntfs01:43
cdnpenguinI would modify intelikey's command slightly: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows/ -o umask=000,ro01:44
geniiBack briefly from other work. Did x89x make any progress/get any help compiling the Unichrome driver? Just curious mainly ...01:44
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jamesok now what would i change in that command if the file system were ext3?   sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/ -o umask=00001:46
Biovoreadd a -t ext301:46
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intelikeygenii idk  i talked with him quite a while yesterday but don't know if it was before or after that issue   (wasn't about it)01:46
geniiwaylandbill: You alive?01:46
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intelikeyjames you drop from - onward01:47
geniiintelikey Ah OK. Earlier today was trying to help him with an S3 Unichrome driver install/compile. Tedious01:47
intelikeyjames   sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/01:47
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intelikeygenii ah.   havent seen him today.01:48
geniithanks01:48
intelikeyjames the reson,   umask= is a fs specific argument which only applies to M$ file systems (because they don't have permissions bits  you have too mask them)01:50
intelikeymy a key is not accepting every stroke01:50
BluesKajwaylandbill, was here earlier01:50
intelikeyaa << pressed 5 times01:50
BluesKajan hr or so ago01:50
geniiBluesKaj: Hi :) Still here I see01:50
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BluesKajin and out , genii01:51
jamesontelikey it took the command sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/01:51
jamesis there anything else that needs to be done ?01:51
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jamesfrom here for me to access the data on the drive?01:51
geniiBluesKaj: Yeah me too. Just curious if x89x got some help compiling that driver. Long and convoluted etc01:51
BluesKajbeen busy around the yard but check in every once in a while :)01:51
intelikeyjames that was a one time mount.  if you want it permanant you put an entry in the fstab01:52
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intelikey/dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/ auto defaults 0 001:52
intelikeyjames that line  ^01:52
BluesKajmusta worked genii , haven't seen him since01:52
jamesmany many thanks intelikey i will try now01:53
intelikeywelcome01:53
geniiBluesKaj: Well, in 12 hours I'll be back for extended times... I told him if he got no help tonight be here after then and I'd see what I could do01:54
jamesintelikey01:54
jamesdev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/ auto defaults 0 001:54
jamesbash: /dev/sdb1: Permission denie01:54
intelikeyjames that line belongs in the /etc/fstab file  not executed from the console01:54
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intelikeyjames kdesu kate /etc/fstab01:55
intelikeyexecute that ^   and copy/paste the line into it01:55
jamesjust at the bottom?01:56
intelikeyyep01:56
intelikeysave and exit, you're done01:56
jamesok now that all that is done, how the heck do i get to the drive?01:57
geniiAFK, smoke break :)01:57
jamesi go to /media and it is empty01:57
intelikeyjames file manager    navigate to    /media/sdb101:58
jamesya that is empty01:58
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intelikeyjames and it's not supposed to be ?01:58
jamesi have data on the drive01:59
intelikeynote file:///media/sdb1   is not the same as  media://sdb101:59
james50 gb worth01:59
jamesintelikey the owner is root02:00
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intelikeyjames so give your self permission     sudo chown `whoami` -R /media/sdb102:01
Minatakugenii! :D02:01
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intelikeyrun that and you'll own it02:02
Huassup niggaz, i did a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it messed up all my menues so i did a sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop and tha shitz is still messed up--- what gives?02:02
jamesit worked perfectly02:02
jamesand now shows as a drive and not a folder02:02
intelikeyHuas removing the meta package changes nothing02:02
Huasintelikey yeah it seemed a little to easy02:03
Huasis  kde still on ma disk but messed up now?02:03
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Huas:(02:03
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geniiBack02:03
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geniiMinataku: Hi02:04
intelikeystill there, messed up would depend on many things, but your removing the meta package is not one of them02:04
Minataku:D02:04
intelikey@ Huas ^02:04
Huascan i add the meta package again?02:04
Huassudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop <- do that again?02:04
jamesthanks again intelikey02:04
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intelikeyyou can but why would you.  all it's for is to "depend on other packages"  which are already there so adding the meta package will do nothing, as removing it does nothing02:05
Huasintelikey so everything is the same?02:06
Huasok niggaz that calms me down a bit:)02:06
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NickPrestaHuas, could you please stop using that word. It's annoying and I'm sure it is offensive to at least one person in this channel.02:07
Huasnickpresta oh foe shoe.... im black myself so no offence bro02:07
Huashello?02:10
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intelikeythat's it.   i'm going to build a cross over cable and connect these two boxen now.     i'll be back, probably asking for help to get a LAN setup, later02:13
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ounsahello02:24
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WhtWolfTeraDyne!hi | ounsa02:25
ubotuounsa: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:25
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WhtWolfTeraDyne... became quiet all of a sudden...02:27
Schuenemanna plane just crashed here02:27
Biovorewhere is here?02:28
Schuenemannbrazil02:28
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rochhola02:30
Schuenemann!hola | roch02:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hola - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:30
rochhablas espaol !!!02:31
WhtWolfTeraDyne!es02:31
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:31
Schuenemann!es | roch02:31
uboturoch: please see above02:31
rochsi pero esta en ingles :(02:31
Schuenemann?02:32
WhtWolfTeraDyne?02:32
Schuenemann /join #kubuntu-es02:32
rochok02:32
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kgxcan someone tell me how can i prevent the  "WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!" error when using ssh?02:37
kgxi need this for one host only, the rest should still warn me02:37
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sjckkgx I thought it warn only first time?02:39
kgxnah it doesnt even let me connect, i need to remove the key from my known_hosts file before i can connect02:40
stdinkgx: see message like "offending host is on line # of ~/.ssh/known_hosts" ?02:41
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kgxstdin: yeah i know :) i've removed that line and then it works. but i was wondering if its possible to do it without manually removing that line?02:42
stdinkgx: not really, it's a security feature02:43
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kgxok, thanks02:43
stdinkgx: do you own the host?02:44
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kgxyeah02:44
stdinkgx: is it dual-booting 2 linux distros then?02:45
kgxits my home computer. it happens when i switch between windows and liux.02:45
stdinahh02:45
stdinssh server on windows?02:45
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kgxyep02:45
kgxopenssh on cygwin02:45
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stdinkgx: you could just copy the cygwin directory "/etc/ssh" to the linux one (or vise-versa), then they'd have the same ID02:46
kgxstdin: thanks...didn't think it'd work. cheers :) you're always the one to answer questions in this channel!02:47
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stdinheh, seems that way :)02:47
CaBlGuY!win3202:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:48
CaBlGuY!codecs02:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:48
stdin!w32codecs02:48
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs02:48
stdinCaBlGuY ^02:48
CaBlGuYword..  ;)02:48
wordcurses!02:48
CaBlGuYlol02:48
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blackjeebusWhenever I insert this Sprint Aircard [Merlin S620]  into the PCMCIA slot on this laptop [Latitude D520] , the system locks and I have to do a hard reboot....Anyone ever have problems with any kind of PCMCIA card?02:51
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Dragnslcr100 pages of a C++ book? How can anyone not fall asleep after that02:57
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blackjeebusNo one having PCMCIA troubles eh?03:07
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WhtWolfTeraDyneVery quiet tonight. It's unusual.03:11
clouderi have 232gb hard drive.  How smart is it to make my home directory 200gb and leave 32gb to everything else?03:11
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Schuenemannas smart as locking yourself on the fridge to check if the light really turns off when the door closes03:12
rochhola03:12
clouderwhat would you recommend?03:13
WhtWolfTeraDyneclouder: I use a 10 GB partition for system stuff and 48 GB for my home directory, so...03:13
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rochsuport in spanish?03:13
WhtWolfTeraDyne!es03:13
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:13
Schuenemann!es | roch03:13
uboturoch: please see above03:13
Schuenemannyou did it again03:13
rochok perdon, es q reinicie03:13
WhtWolfTeraDyneAnd sadly enough, I'm making my bed at the same time.03:14
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jhutchinsclouder: Wherever you partition your space, you're going to need it on the other partition.  I recommend that you make one partition and do backups.03:18
jhutchins(well, one for / and one for swap)03:19
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jhutchinsclouder: If you do as you suggested, you'll most likely discover some app that wants to put a bunch of stuff in /usr/share, or maybe buffer large downloads in /var/cache.03:20
jhutchinsclouder: Or you'll do something that writes a flood to the log files.03:20
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jhutchinsIf you have a current backup of /home, you don't need it on a seprate partition, just install and restore.03:21
jhutchinsAnyway, dat's my advice.03:21
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WhtWolfTeraDynejhutchins: That's probably what I'll do once Gutsy comes out03:24
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agraceyhas anybody had problems with the SATA dvd burners03:30
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agraceywhen I install mine my computer will not POST03:30
litwellhello03:30
agraceyhi03:31
litwellI want to clear everything on /tmp on shutdown, but it's an ext3 fs. so I have this problem03:31
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litwellI can't (shouldn't :) delete lost+found03:32
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litwellhow do I redirect this command "ls -a /tmp | sed -e '/lost+found/d'" to "rm" so I can put it on /etc/init.d/syslogd ?03:33
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padroteTheresa, are you a girl?03:36
Bearcatnope, this is Bearcat. I'm working on Thersa's computer trying to fix stuff03:36
BearcatBearcat == male (for what that matters)03:37
MinatakuIt matters a lot03:37
MinatakuNow you'll get 90% less help03:37
MinatakuXD03:38
Bearcatmy first frustration of the night is that i can't get adept to run. It claims that something else is using it's resources and all the ps-ing and grepping doesn't show me what it is03:38
BearcatO.o03:38
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Bearcatbetter?03:38
Minatakulol03:38
Minataku!adeptfix03:38
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:38
Bearcatwhooo03:38
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padrotelol Minataku03:39
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Bearcatmuch better!03:40
Bearcatthank you Minataku03:40
Minatakunp03:40
Bearcatnow i can get back to the problem i've been working on for weeks now03:40
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Minatakuhttp://nekobooru.net/post/view/3111 << Ubuntu wallpaper :303:41
clouderSo after what jhutchins said I'm thinking I should make a large fat32 partition (in case I need access to it from windows) put all my porn and music on there.  Then create an average size home partition that I can backup easily, and then drop ~10-15gb on system.  Does that sound like a decent plan?03:43
MinatakuSomeone linked me to that particular post03:43
Bearcatugh...downloading 58 mgs of updates on my friends dial-up is no fun!!03:43
MinatakuBe careful, other parts of the site are decidedly NSFW03:43
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MinatakuI just got the link, don't look at me for the rest of the site's content03:47
Minatakulol03:47
MinatakuIt's all anime pics, though03:47
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Bearcatok. i03:49
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Bearcati'm at a bit of a loss here. I've got the latest kubunu install on this thing. When i load up the live disk i can scan on thier scanner with kooka. When i use thier machine sans live disk. i can't Kooka can't find the scanner. This has to be a configuration issue.  I have deleted all of the kooka settings so they could be re-gened and nothing has worked.03:50
BearcatAny ideas? Could it actually be a sane problem?03:50
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mneptokclouder: i'd do it differently03:53
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intelikeydon't ya need some sort of a 'dhcp' program to use dhcp addressing ?    or am i all wet ?03:55
mneptokintelikey: DHCP client is built-in and ready03:55
intelikeymneptok built into what ?03:55
mneptok*ubuntu03:56
intelikeythen i probably need to install it03:56
mneptokyou don't need to install anything to get a DHCP address.03:56
mneptoklease. blah.03:56
mneptoksudo dhclient $interface03:57
mneptoksudo dhclient eth003:57
mneptokor whatever03:57
intelikeylike i said i'll hve to install it03:57
mneptokdhclient is already installed03:57
intelikeytty1 [root@~]  dhclient03:57
intelikey-root: dhclient: command not found03:57
intelikeyno it's not03:57
intelikeycare to retract ?03:57
mneptok[mneptok@ra]  mneptok :: which dhclient03:58
mneptok/sbin/dhclient03:58
rayluit is with most distros of ubuntu...03:58
mneptoknot really03:58
rayluhow do i set up a simple network boot?03:58
raylui dont want a thin-client that works with 8 different operating systems; i just want a remote boot03:58
intelikeytty1 [root@~]  which dhclient03:58
intelikeytty1 [root@~] 03:58
mneptokcare to put /sbin in root's path? or use sudo?03:58
intelikeyit's there03:58
intelikeytty1 [root@~]  echo $PATH03:58
intelikey./:/opt/firefox/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbintty1 [root@~] 03:58
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mneptoktry "locate dhclient"03:59
cloudermneptok: what would you do briefly?  I'm just trying to get a few ideas/scenarios before I start slicing up my drives03:59
intelikeylocate is not installed either03:59
mneptokuname -a ?03:59
intelikeytty1 [root@~]  uname -a03:59
intelikeyLinux zeos486 2.4.27-2-k6 #1 Wed Dec 21 11:27:37 UTC 2005 i586 GNU/Linux03:59
intelikeyare we through playing now ?04:00
intelikeyi'll go install dhclient04:00
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mneptokwhat version of Ubuntu is *that*?04:00
WhtWolfTeraDynemneptok: I'm starting to wonder...04:00
intelikeydapper04:00
rayluo.004:01
WhtWolfTeraDyne... wow...04:01
intelikeyinstalling  dhcp3-server and client04:01
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mneptok[mneptok@hypnotoad]  mneptok :: uname -a04:01
mneptokLinux hypnotoad 2.6.15-28-amd64-k8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Mar 13 20:57:54 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux04:01
mneptok[mneptok@hypnotoad]  mneptok :: which dhclient04:01
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mneptokthat's Dapper04:01
mneptok/sbin/dhclient04:01
chaoticman gnome recently sucks  and so does debian04:02
chaotici  tried to have debian and kubuntu04:02
WhtWolfTeraDyneLinux feralnet 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux  < That's Feisty04:02
chaotici   just removed debian04:02
intelikeymneptok please act your age.    and thanks for answering my question,  it's dhcp-client  that i was asking about04:03
chaotici  dont kno  y ppl like gnome04:03
chaoticits annoying having two  bars04:03
mneptokintelikey: please, stop the personal comments04:03
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WhtWolfTeraDynechaotic: It can be customized to only have one, but... meh... KDE\Fluxbox\WindowMaker for me.04:04
mneptokintelikey: did you configure DHCP networking during install? and is this desktop or server?04:04
intelikeyno04:05
Bearcati'm trying to uninstall sane and it's associated programs completly so i can reinstall in case this is a config problem.  However, adept tells me i can't do so as it would break things.  Any ideas on what i can do? Pretend i am a newbie (i am to debian/kubuntu). I just want to get this scanner working and it works on the live disk so i am at a loss.04:05
mneptokdid you use static networking or no network at all?04:05
tupadoes sources.list has all the packages available or I have to add some extra lines?04:05
rayluBearcat, pastebin what apt says?04:05
tupain debian you have to add contrib and non-free04:06
tupais it the same un ubuntu?04:06
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raylutupa, yes; i think restricted and backports04:06
intelikeyno04:06
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Bearcatraylu: which paste bin?04:06
WhtWolfTeraDyneMinataku: For your wallpaper, I now give you one that I've found > http://flickr.com/photos/renanbirck/386721909/04:06
raylu!pastebin04:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:06
rayluor http://pastecode.org04:07
raylubecause it's urls are nicer ^^04:07
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tuparaylu, what are restricted packages? I'm taking a guess and say backports are previous releases packages04:07
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MinatakuWhtWolfTeraDyne: Oooh, nice04:07
raylurestricted are the ones with legal strings04:07
raylubut intelikey might be saying "no" at me04:07
tupammm, it would be like non-free in debian04:07
Bearcatraylu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30292/04:08
raylunon-free just means...non-free04:09
raylufree things can have legal issues04:09
rayluBearcat, oh...i thought it mentioned specific pacakges04:09
Bearcatnope04:09
raylu*packages; if it's just one line, you can paste it in here04:09
Bearcati wish04:09
rayluyou might want to try: sudo dpkg --configure -a04:09
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BearcatO.o04:10
raylulol; what'd it do?04:11
Bearcatraylu: it says "now loading Vista"04:11
raylu...04:11
rayluwhat?04:11
Bearcatneverming04:11
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WhtWolfTeraDyneXD04:11
Bearcatthat would be the equivilant of an explosion to me04:11
raylulol04:11
Bearcatno dice.04:11
BluesKajit prolly releases pending installs or removals that are stalled04:11
Bearcatit's still not removing those packages04:12
rayluBearcat, are you using aptitude or apt-get?04:12
Bearcati went to update the system, saw that it was gonna downlload 58 megs and canceled.04:12
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BluesKajBearcat, try  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a04:12
Bearcatnow i'm just trying to *completely* reinstall sane04:12
Bearcatand i'm using adept04:13
BearcatBluesKaj: done04:13
chaoticis there any way to  remove the temporary root  access and have   it always on  like   debian has04:13
intelikeyBearcat sudo  apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install <package names here>04:13
rayluBearcat, try it with "sudo aptitude remove sane" or whatever package you wanted to get rid of04:13
rayluchaotic, "su" or "sudo -s"04:14
WhtWolfTeraDynechaotic: "sudo passwd root", IIRC.04:14
Bearcatintelikey: it's complaining about The following packages have unmet dependencies:04:14
Bearcat  sun-java6-bin: Depends: sun-java6-jre (= 6-00-2ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed04:14
intelikeyummmm hmmmm  there's the issue.04:15
Bearcatintelikey: yeah, and i'd really rather not take the time this eveing to download the 58 mgs tonight.04:15
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intelikeyumkay04:15
Bearcatit's not that i'm impatient it's that it's dial-up and i don't get the opportunity to be over here to fix this very often. Her husband is very sick so my windows of opportinuty are narrow,04:16
Bearcatright now this scanner issue is the last major hurdle and she is up and running.04:17
intelikeyooops   dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dhcp3-server_3.0.3-6ubuntu7_i386.deb (--unpack):04:17
intelikey trying to overwrite `/etc/init.d', which is also in package x11-common04:17
intelikeyi guess i'll have to rm /etc/init.d and mkdir /etc/init.d   a symlink to /dev/null has confused dpkg04:17
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intelikeyah shoot,  it seems that the package doesn't do dependancy checking04:19
intelikeySetting up dhcp3-server (3.0.3-6ubuntu7) ...04:19
Bearcatalight, i'll just tell them to let it run overnight and then come back tomorrow04:20
intelikey /var/lib/dpkg/info/dhcp3-server.postinst: 24: adduser: not found04:20
Bearcatthanks folks04:20
intelikeyif adduser is a dependancy then why doesn't the package depend on adduser   ?04:20
intelikeyi'll call that a bug.04:20
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tekjust out of curiousity, are there any recommended IM clients besides Kopete and GAIM that do Jabber+ standard IM services?04:21
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NightBirdintelikey: you don't have adduser installed?  I thought that was included by default..04:22
intelikeyNightBird default is mearly a starting point on the long road to "right"04:22
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WhtWolfTeraDyneintelikey: You should file a bug report on that dependency problem at Launchpad.04:23
intelikeyNightBird after install  i did something like     for Q in `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-get remove -y $Q ;done    and went to bed...    crude but affective! next day i had a clean base system on which i added what i wanted04:25
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rrbizwindows codecs ?04:25
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intelikey!codecs04:25
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:25
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BluesKajWhtWolfTeraDyne, what good will that do , launchpad never issues any fixes ...what PITA it is on google ...it would be nice not have to commiserate with others that have the same problem , but that does help fix it ...google should be shot for having launchpad at the top their query list04:26
rrbizty04:27
intelikeyWhtWolfTeraDyne yeah i probably should,   but probably wont,  i'm not regestered, don't want to reg. and that bug most likely will never affect anyone else.04:27
BluesKajer doesn't help fix04:27
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WhtWolfTeraDyneBluesKaj: Sadly, it's the only real way to file bugs for *buntu, even if it isn't exacly the best way.04:30
WhtWolfTeraDyneintelikey: Whatever you think is best...04:30
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BluesKajintelikey, so you don't have the annoying dialog box asking for your password when you want to run apt or ...whatever ?04:34
BluesKajer adept04:34
intelikeyBluesKaj nope.   i don't have a password04:35
intelikeyall accounts are locked04:35
rrbizintelikey: those instructions are for ubuntu not kubuntu, i'll have to figure it out04:35
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damien_Hi guys, Anyone know a good Imageresizer in Adept?04:39
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hitmanWillydamien_: gimp does that well04:39
WhtWolfTeraDynedamien_: digiKam has a resize option if you have it in an album.04:40
intelikeykrita ?04:40
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blackjeebusWhen I plug my Sprint Connection Card into the PCMCIA slot on this laptop [Dell Latitude D520] , the system immediately locks. But my Verizon one works perfectly. Is there something special I need to do for the Sprint card [Merlin S560] ?04:41
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intelikeyrrbiz what exactly are you trying to do ?04:41
K-Ryanblackjeebus: It should be in when you start your laptop, don't plug it in while it's booted.04:43
blackjeebusIf I have it in while booting, it locks the system04:43
blackjeebusRight in the middle of boot04:43
K-RyanUnder loading hardware drivers?04:43
blackjeebusLemme check; its usually when its assigning the memory address to the device04:44
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=== K-Ryan wouldn't know what to do, but is trying anyway.
intelikeyK-Ryan no plugging pc cards while running ?     sense when ?04:44
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K-Ryanintelikey: I dunno, I thought it was like a hard drive kind of deal.04:44
K-RyanMore like a USB kind of deal I guess?04:45
intelikeyyeah04:45
K-RyanOh, cool04:45
K-RyanDidn't know that04:45
intelikeyin mandrake there was an app for umounting/disconnecting/unsyncing the card first  but you didn't have to use it...     i haven't messed with a pc card in several years now.04:47
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blackjeebusYeah it locks up on boot right after "pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window blah blah blah04:47
K-RyanHrmm04:48
intelikeywas kinda like using "eject" on a cdrom   good but not always needed, sometimes you can just push the button04:48
K-RyanMight want to look around in !wifi04:48
K-Ryan!wifi04:48
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:48
K-RyanThere is a section about supported cards, look in there for your card.04:49
K-RyanWith the card there will be a short guide on what is needed.04:49
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: nah, this wouldn't be in there...04:49
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K-RyanhitmanWilly: What if a card caused freezing if the laptop wasn't setup beforehand?04:50
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: its basically a DSL modem that connects with a cell signal04:50
K-RyanCouldn't a card need presetup?04:50
intelikeyit sounds more like the wrong driver is black listed04:50
rrbizintelikey: i was just try'n to get w32codecs, had to add the medibuntu rep and apt-get it, those instructions from the bot are for ubuntu's package manager04:50
blackjeebusyeah04:50
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blackjeebusmy verizon one works PERFECTLY04:50
K-RyanSo why not use that? o.O04:51
blackjeebuswell its not really mine; I needed another card to test04:51
K-RyanAh04:51
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tupahow do I install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it is not listed04:51
hitmanWillyblackjeebus: they use different protocols, and the sprint ones have multiple protocol support iirc04:51
tupahow do I install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome?. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it is not listed04:51
intelikeyrrbiz the instructions are for synaptic  yes  but the other info like what to put in the sources.list and where to find the packages are there      did you get things working ?04:51
BluesKajrrbiz, i find adding the repos to the sources list and updating is easier and more effective than using adept or synaptic to do it04:52
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blackjeebushitmanWilly: Meaning I would have to enable something extra?04:52
hitmanWillyblackjeebus: or it could act as a softmodem, which would suck for you :)04:53
intelikey!find xserver-xorg-driver-unichrome04:53
ubotuPackage/file xserver-xorg-driver-unichrome does not exist in feisty04:53
BluesKajgetting close to my sacktime folks ...take care , and nite all04:53
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intelikey!find unichrome04:54
ubotuFound: xserver-xorg-video-unichrome04:54
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intelikeytupa sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome04:54
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tupaintelikey -_-04:55
tupaI already know that, and how do you make it work !!04:55
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intelikeynever messed with that...    don't know what kind of module it is,   if it's supposed to be a driver just edit the xorg.conf and put  unichrome   where   vesa   was04:56
intelikeybe prepaired to fix it in the dark though04:56
WhtWolfTeraDyne!info xserver-xorg-video-unichrome04:57
ubotuxserver-xorg-video-unichrome: X.Org X server -- VIA display driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.2.6.99-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 83 kB, installed size 248 kB04:57
K-Ryanintelikey: CLI is fun =)04:57
WhtWolfTeraDyneit might be listed as "via", or something that's not "unichrome".04:57
intelikeyK-Ryan preching to the quiour04:57
mneptok"via" is the default Unichrome driver from Main04:58
K-Ryan?04:58
mneptokanything with a Unichrome chipset should get "via" during installation.04:59
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intelikeymneptok there is a driver  via  yes what is that packge ^  ?05:00
mneptokintelikey: no idea. never messed with it.05:00
intelikey:)05:01
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intelikeythat's what i said....   lol05:01
rrbizintelikey: BluesKaj: yeah i added manually, i'm all good, but those instructions wouldn't pertain to kubuntu05:01
rrbizat least not right off i spose05:01
mneptoki could install it, but the "via" driver is working fine. and that's the girlfriend's machine.05:01
intelikeyblueskaj already left.05:01
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tupamneptok I think you are wrong, I'm using vesa, via driver doesn't work05:03
tupait freezes05:03
mneptoktupa: the Unichrome i have is not recent05:04
tupaok05:04
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tupawell, then freezes for newer unichrome chips :)05:04
tupajust an incomplete truth05:04
mneptoki know there's a Unichrome is the machine, and i know the "via" driver works.05:05
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mneptokother that that ... pray to whatever gods you worship.05:05
mneptok*than05:06
tuparrbiz do you have unichrome?05:06
hitmanWillyis there an actual 'unichrome' driver?05:06
intelikeyif i use a car battery to test this cat5 cable  i can just contact each end of each wire to each post and watch for a spark to make sure it's not open circut   right ?05:06
hitmanWillyintelikey: yeah, you try that :P05:07
mneptokintelikey: wait for lightning05:07
intelikeyhitmanWilly i'm fixing to.05:07
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tupawish me luck05:07
hitmanWillyactually, that might even work...05:07
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tupaI'm trying unichrome in xorg.conf05:07
intelikeyit's 20m  there is enough resistance it won't over heat05:07
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=== hitmanWilly shorts out jumper cables to test car batteries all the time
hitmanWillyor at least the cables05:08
intelikeylight duty cables that works.  but you don't want to do that with 6ought welding leads05:09
hitmanWillyno, not that dumb05:09
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intelikeyprobably not even 2 ought05:11
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ShockValueanyone know what i need to install to get NNTP support for python?05:14
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intelikey!find nntp05:15
ubotuFound: cyrus-nntpd-2.2, libnews-nntpclient-perl, nntp, openntpd, phpgroupware-nntp05:15
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tupadoes anyone here know how to setup xserver-xorg-video-unichrome?05:15
thunderboltShockValue: at one time, there was an NNTP library with python.05:16
tupaI removed vesa and wrote unichrome and it didn't work05:16
intelikeyi don't see anything on it ShockValue   freshmeat.net ?05:16
rrbiztupa: i used to, now use i81005:16
thunderboltShockValue: http://docs.python.org/lib/module-nntplib.html05:16
ShockValuehttp://docs.python.org/lib/module-nntplib.html05:16
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tuparrbiz, do you actually used xserver-xorg-video-unichrome?05:16
tupaor via05:16
thunderboltPython: Batteries included!05:16
tupayou said you had an older unichrome05:16
ShockValueyeah, thats what im readying, but im not sure how to add that.. currently my python doesnt recognise the NNTP thing05:16
intelikeythere ya go05:16
rrbizuse to b4, and it would sometimes work ok05:16
tuparrbiz, how did you set it up?05:17
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tupais there a developer or something that can help me out?05:19
rrbiztupa: would have to settle for vesa most of the time05:19
tuparrbiz, why?05:19
tupathat's dumb, unless unichrome doesn't work appropriately05:20
rrbizwasn't easy05:20
dr_willisi recall hearing some bad things about unichrome in the past.05:20
dr_willisnot used them myself.05:20
tupadr_willis, well I can't configure it05:21
rrbizunlesss things are better for it now, i guess it easier, dk05:21
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=== intelikey doesn't even know the differnce in monochrome and unichrome
dr_willisWhen in doubt. check the wiki/forums i guess.05:22
dr_willisI got an apple2c thats Monocrome. :)05:22
intelikey:)05:22
dr_willisthe good old days! playing ultima2 on a Amber Monitor!05:22
dr_willis:)05:22
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ardchoillelol!05:23
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intelikeyor selling lemonade on the C64 even05:23
dr_willisM.U.L.U05:23
dr_willisM.U.L.E05:23
BlackBsdhow do i turn on the sshd and allow remote logins on the install disk?05:23
dr_willisSell that Smithore! and Crystalite!05:23
WhtWolfTeraDyneMarathon...05:23
intelikeyBlackBsd install ssh05:24
BlackBsdalso dont i have to set a root password or a sudo password?05:24
intelikeyBlackBsd no just use the sudo command05:24
dr_willisyou can go to the console on the live cd and run rooty commands also i think.05:24
intelikeywith sudo05:25
intelikeysudo -i05:25
WhtWolfTeraDyneIt's 22:25... I'm off to bed. Night everyone! *sets away*05:25
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intelikeyBlackBsd you will have to set a passwd for "guest"  or is it "ubuntu"   which ever account is setup05:25
intelikeyor sshd will not allow connection   iirc05:26
intelikeyTeraDyne sleep well05:27
hitmanWillyis sshd even installed on the livecd?05:27
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intelikeyyou can install it05:27
intelikeyjust install  ssh05:27
intelikeyit's the meta package    gets server and client05:28
srowehi room.  i'm having some issues with my NVIDIA drivers causing my system to freeze.  would this be the right room?05:28
hitmanWillysrowe: what card and what driver?05:28
intelikeysrowe actually probably   #ubutnu-effects05:28
BlackBsdi want to remotely ssh into the box and run fdisk05:28
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intelikeysrowe but ask anyway05:28
dr_willisBlackBsd,  why? heh05:29
sroweit's the NVIDIA 7300 LE card, and the latest driver installed through Envy05:29
dr_williscant get to its console? no screen?05:29
srowethanks intelli05:29
BlackBsdguess i can just do this from the laptop...05:29
intelikeyBlackBsd   install  ssh   set a password for the user   and go for it05:29
srowei thought at first it was something to do with wine, but it has locked up on me just browsing the web05:29
BlackBsdim on the live install cd05:29
intelikeyyes i know05:30
hitmanWillyintelikey: he'll have to set up ssh to allow running root cmds iirc05:30
intelikeyhitmanWilly no sudo works05:30
BlackBsddoes the installer create extended partitions?05:30
intelikeyBlackBsd it can05:30
BlackBsdis that what is calls logical partitions05:30
hitmanWillysudo works under ssh? ugh, there's a security hole...05:30
intelikeyBlackBsd it is05:30
thunderbolthitmanWilly: huh?05:30
thunderboltWhy shouldn't sudo work under ssh?05:31
BiovorehitmanWilly: well you can run commands though ssh running the -c argument05:31
dr_willisit the user logging in has sudo access..05:31
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Biovoreso ssh username@box -c sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.50.20/2405:31
Biovore^ that would work..05:31
hitmanWillythunderbolt: think about it, allowing remote access to root cmds, bad idea imho05:31
Biovoreas dr willis said05:31
BlackBsdno, i want to set up an extended partition so i can install in.05:31
intelikeyhitmanWilly welcome to my world of despising the "root jr. approach"05:31
thunderbolthitmanWilly: How am I suppose to manage my server in Australia if I can't use root commands?05:32
BlackBsdis therw a kubuntu from scratch05:32
BlackBsdthere05:32
dr_willisBlackBsd,  hmm.. No.05:32
hitmanWillyBlackBsd: try the server cd, its probably the closest05:32
intelikeyBlackBsd you can use  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]     console   sudo cfdisk   or sudo fdisk /dev/blah05:33
BlackBsdassuming you know the username05:33
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intelikeyBlackBsd no05:33
intelikeytry it.05:33
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hitmanWillythunderbolt: well, that's a special case, but most people manage their machines locally05:34
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rustalotHow do I copy photos in one album into another album in DigiKam? I looked around, but it seems that you can only import from file when you do "add photos".05:35
intelikeyremote admin  is not so uncommon,   just less secure imo05:35
hitmanWillyintelikey: definately less secure05:35
thunderboltI'd say slightly less secure, but very convenient.05:35
thunderboltEspecially if you're using SSH with strong keys, passphrases, etc.05:35
BlackBsdi think i have to install ssh..05:35
intelikeythunderbolt and your user passwd is secure enough05:36
BlackBsdis it not on the install DVD already?05:36
BlackBsdwhich sshd05:36
BlackBsdopps wrong terminal05:36
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intelikeyhitmanWilly :)05:36
intelikeyme too05:36
BlackBsdssh is pretty safe..05:37
intelikeytty3 [greg$~]  pastebin /etc/sudoers05:37
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3827705:37
hitmanWillythe app is still there for dependency issues, but no user accts are actually in the group05:37
intelikeyhehhe    looks can be decieving  :)05:37
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hitmanWillylol05:39
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srowedo you know of any other channels that might know something about nvidia drivers?05:39
intelikey#ubuntu-effects05:39
hitmanWillysrowe: im not sure about envy, but nvidia-glx is the pkg you want for that card05:40
intelikey!ati05:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:40
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intelikeyhmm no trace*   i thought i had tracepath installed05:46
tekanyone familiar with setting up wifi with bcm43xx-fwcutter?05:47
srowetek, i actually just did that.  just a sec and i'll tell you what you need to do05:47
teksrowe: well I got it working but after a reboot it no longer works :(05:48
srowehttp://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/32905:48
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srowetek: may be a stupid question, but did you click on the icon and select the wireless connection?  it seems to default to the ethernet connection if you don't05:48
Guest_578_i am having a proble with installing wine anyone got any suggestions??05:49
dr_willisGuest_578_,  clarify the problem for a start05:49
Guest_578_it cant create the executables05:49
intelikeywhat's normal if you tracepath your own ip ?   one hop out one back ?05:49
dr_willissudo apt-get install wine -- works for me.05:49
dr_willisYou mean problems COMPILING wine?05:49
Guest_578_i dont have internet accesse on it05:49
Guest_578_yeah cause i am using the wineinstalll that came with the package05:50
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MinatakuHeya, dr_willis05:50
intelikeyGuest_578_ install build-essential05:50
dr_willisive never used wineinstall, I just yuse the upstream wine repo.05:50
dr_willisdeb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main05:50
dr_willisand then apt-get it05:50
teksrowe: disabled eth0 each time i reboot, enabled eth1 each time... double check its route settings... it seems ONCE it works and I reboot for any reason I no longer see wireless networks05:50
dr_willisMinataku,  i got a whole table of junk to send you.. :) sorting through it slowly.05:51
MinatakuI just emerge whichever is the most recent in Portage05:51
Minatakudr_willis: Kickass! :D05:51
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MinatakuCare to rattle off some of the stuff :305:51
Guest_578_do i have to have inetaccess to use the debian stuff??05:51
intelikeyGuest_578_ build-essential is on the install disk05:51
intelikeyi think.05:51
dr_willisMinataku,  so far a lot of amiga books. (abacus) and disks, and disks, and disks...05:51
Guest_578_ok05:51
hitmanWillyintelikey: nope, not on feisty05:52
dr_willisand some amiga parts. :)  slowly working around the room to the amigas05:52
MinatakuCool :D05:52
MinatakuAwesome :305:52
Guest_578_i am a newb so you will have to explain pretty well05:52
intelikeyyou can't compile anything without gcc and gcc is part of build-essential   nd the error message implies that you don't have gcc05:52
intelikeyso05:52
intelikeyGuest_578_ install build-essential05:52
srowetek: that's about the extent of my knowledge on the subject.  sorry. :(05:53
Guest_578_is build essential on the os installation or the wine installation05:53
tupano luck with xserver-xorg-unichrome :(05:53
Guest_578_disk05:53
intelikeynow.   i do concure with dr_willis on the fact that you are doing it the hard way by building the source.05:53
intelikeyGuest_578_ the ubuntu disk05:53
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Guest_578_ok05:54
damienHey guys. Does Kopete automatically log chats?05:54
dr_williswine needs a bit more then just build-essential - would be my guess05:54
intelikeydr_willis me too but he can't get far enough to know that without b-e05:54
MinatakuHm05:55
Guest_578_ok05:55
MinatakuI wonder if I could see what Portage demands for WINE05:55
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MinatakuIt won't be exact05:55
intelikeyand the wine.deb will have deps too   so  either way...  it won't be fun without networking05:56
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MinatakuBut it'll give a good overview05:56
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hitmanWillyMinataku: should be enough to get moving in the right direction, tho05:56
MinatakuBut really, the best thing to do is get networking05:56
MinatakuhitmanWilly: Indeed05:56
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illDecreekurt, you gettin the help you need?05:56
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kurtiskinda05:56
Minatakuhttp://www.gentoo-portage.com/app-emulation/wine/Dep#ptabs << Here ya go05:57
kurtisok i have no way of connecting it to the internet05:57
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MinatakuGo down past the list of available versions05:57
dr_willisOnly thing i do with pc's athat are not on the network.. is.. err.. Hmm... not a lot..05:57
illDecreeanyone know of another good/reliable kubuntu support channel anywhere? or forums....anything...i just need resources05:57
MinatakuHeh05:57
dr_willisPlay FreeCol? ... tryed that yet? its a good game05:57
MinatakuThose are all hobby machines for me05:57
MinatakuOh, dr_willis05:57
MinatakuI got a DEC Personal DECstation 5000/33 :D05:57
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dr_willisillDecree,  theres the official ubbuntu/kubuntu forums05:58
MinatakuMIPS R3000A + R3010 FPC @ 33MHz :305:58
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dr_willismore stuff to get your dad mad at you. :)05:58
milesyo yo05:58
illDecreedr_willis....is it on the ubuntu page?   is there a good IRC channel you know of, or is this it?05:58
Minatakudr_willis: Damn straight :D05:59
dr_willisIll stick with my Emulators..05:59
milesminataku, language!05:59
dr_willisillDecree,  this is about as good as it gets. :)05:59
Minatakumiles: It's well within PG05:59
milesoic05:59
dr_willisPG13+05:59
dr_willis:)05:59
milesi misread05:59
teksrowe: thanks... I just tried rerunning the bcm install (recutting the firmware...) still no luck... I dont even get the "wireless entworks' option under my NetworkManager menu anymore...05:59
illDecreedamn, that sucks05:59
Minatakudr_willis: pmax _is_ emulated by gxemul :D05:59
hitmanWillyillDecree: you could try #ubuntu, but they're even worse than we are05:59
miles"is this a god dam?" - beavis and butthead do america05:59
intelikeyMinataku pg maybe.   not G05:59
tekmaybe ill try bringing my laptop back into the wired port and reinstalling a few things05:59
MinatakuPMAX was the codename of the first machine of the line05:59
dr_willisIm just annoyed that the vice emulator for Ubuntu has a bug in it that makes it unuseable. :(05:59
illDecreei mean, i haven't been here long enough to form an opinion, but i'm just trying to build a resource list, ya know?06:00
Minatakuintelikey: I typically follow the guidelines for primetime programming set by one of America's most oppressive organizations... the FCC06:00
Minatakulol06:00
dr_willisillDecree,  theres ooodles of google hits. :) but the official ubuntu/kubuntu wiki/forums are the best to start with.06:00
Kdawg532is there a package installer for wine that would just install it for me??06:00
MinatakuKdawg532: Yes06:00
illDecreealright, ill check into that06:00
Minatakuapt-get06:00
MinatakuOr adept06:00
MinatakuOr synaptic06:00
Minatakuet al06:00
dr_willisdeb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main06:00
dr_willisis the unofficial latest wine repo.06:01
Kdawg532i need to have internet access on the pc tho06:01
illDecreei'm here just helping someone else in this channel who is new to linux...and im pretty new to ubuntu/kubuntu,....im a long time gentoo user06:01
MinatakuKdawg532: Do it now while you're online here06:01
tekbah, of course X11 wont let me turn off dual support on the fly (or I dont know how :P)06:01
Kdawg532i am using a verizon aircard and cant use it on there06:01
intelikeyMinataku i generaly try to show that i can talk without offending people but for some reason i always make exceptions for you   :)06:01
dr_willisillDecree,  then ubuntu/kubuntu should be trivial.. You are used to reading the docs! :)06:01
MinatakuKdawg532: Set up a bridge06:01
illDecreeyeah...haha06:01
Minatakuintelikey: It's my addictive personality :306:01
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Kdawg532last time i did that it ruined my car06:01
Kdawg532d06:01
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intelikeymaybe.  something about you ticks me off    :)06:02
MinatakuKdawg532: How? A crossover cable should work fine06:02
Minatakuintelikey: Haha06:02
Minatakuintelikey: I try my best06:02
MinatakuXD06:02
intelikey:)06:02
K-RyanAnyone feel like letting me SSH to them, just to test this out?06:02
illDecreehey, question on that aircard kdawg is using....how hard would it be to take a box running winxp MCE '05 sp2, and run it thru a router to share the connection? never tried anythhing quite like that....06:02
MinatakuSorry, though, I don't ACTUALLY try06:02
Kdawg532that ruined it to i spent five hours getting it to work again06:02
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K-RyanBy this, I mean SSHing06:02
MinatakuIt just happens :306:02
Kdawg532ics doesnt work06:02
MinatakuK-Ryan: Set up SSH on another machine06:02
illDecreei figured a crossover woudl be fine, but he tells me the last time he tried that, he fuct it all up badly....06:02
MinatakuOr SSH to something you don't own06:02
Kdawg532it will kill the air card06:02
K-RyanMinataku: Don't have one06:02
illDecreeKurt, imma come up there and make it all work for ya man06:02
illDecreehaha06:02
illDecree:-D06:02
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: yeah, ok, the address is 127.0.0.106:03
MinatakuBUT DON'T LOGIN06:03
intelikeyK-Ryan try   ssh `whoami`@127.0.0.106:03
Minatakulol06:03
K-RyanhitmanWilly: Did it already actually06:03
MinatakuK-Ryan: What's the issue you're having with SSH?06:03
K-RyanNot like, fooled06:03
hitmanWillylol06:03
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K-RyanMinataku: None, I just want to SSH06:03
K-RyanPlaying with my new toys06:03
tkok wired works...06:03
Minatakulol06:03
MinatakuK-Ryan: Set up sshd06:03
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K-Ryansshd?06:03
MinatakuThen ssh to yourself06:03
K-RyanI already ssh-ed to myself!06:03
illDecreeyou need to get that fuckin kubuntu box online somehow06:03
MinatakuThen stop complaining XD06:04
illDecreei got something for ya kurt06:04
illDecreebrb06:04
Kdawg532yeah ok06:04
K-RyanI wanna ssh to someone else06:04
MinatakuHeh06:05
MinatakuK-Ryan: Set up a LAN06:05
K-RyanI have a LAN06:05
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MinatakuI had a Sun box on my network that I SSH'd to06:05
K-RyanExcept the other box is useless and using Windows06:05
K-RyanI know ssh works with it06:05
Kdawg532Nova Tel Usb 72006:06
K-RyanBut there's not much of a point, it's next to me...06:06
K-RyanAlthough...06:06
Kdawg532minataku can you find a chipset for a nova tel usb 72006:06
MinatakuKdawg532: Have you tried using ndiswrapper?06:06
Kdawg532no i havnt06:07
dr_willisI told my wife to Sshhhhhhhhh once... she smacked me.06:07
MinatakuThen try that06:07
Minatakudr_willis: Heehee06:07
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illDecreethe aircard he is talking about is cellular wireless...i think...06:07
Kdawg532yes it is06:08
Kdawg532its through verizon wireless with software from smith micro06:08
MinatakuScrew Verizon :P06:08
illDecreeyeah,....haha, especially for me, i work for Comcast....FUCKEMALL06:09
illDecreehaha06:09
MinatakuComcast is even WORSE06:09
illDecreebelieve me, i KNOW....06:09
Kdawg532when i get verizon fios you'll really be sayin that06:09
Kdawg53215 meg down 2meg up06:09
illDecreei have to deal w/stupid ass people all day, who are "Tier 2 IP Support" and they call me ALL DAY LONG trying to set up they're email in Outlook....seriously, if you cant figure that out, you shouldn't support people and there're connection, ya know?06:10
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illDecreetis funny tho, b/c when i get into IRC channels. most people are connecting from a comcast server somewhere06:10
Kdawg532or maybe i will get the 30 meg down and the 5 meg up06:10
BlackBsdhi does anyone got a dell that came with ubuntu?06:10
BlackBsdim looking for a kernel config file that will match this hardware06:10
BlackBsdor come close to it...06:10
K`zan rsync -rpv --progress nimitz:/home/vw/public_html .  <<--- That should backup *everything* from the target directory, right?06:11
illDecree:-D....more people that make my life miserable...although, i can't complain, we have 16 meg down, and 3 meg up here, and i don't pay a dime for it06:11
illDecreethat part is nice06:11
BlackBsdwithout having all thoes other options set.06:11
illDecreehow are those dell ubuntu boxes?06:11
dr_willisillDecree,  a bit over priced last i looked.06:11
dr_willisthere was a stink about them last week..06:11
MinatakuIt's still better than Windows06:12
dr_willisThe equilient windows offer. included free extra memory + bigger HD. for  about the same price..06:12
MinatakuThey probably have to find Linux-capable HW06:12
MinatakuThough it is Dell06:12
intelikeypretty simple really.   just outputing to your tty06:12
Kdawg532i dont know i might just wate and take my box to my friends house and get it all of the deb servers06:12
illDecreeyeah, i noticed, and read a few things, that they are only $50 cheaper than one w/M$...which is sad, you would think they would knock off like 100 or so, to make it worthwhile, even tho they have to only be paying like 60-70 or so, per license, ya know?06:12
MinatakuSo it's more likely that they're just assholes :P06:12
dr_willisthe windows/linux machines (this may of been just the laptops) HW were identical.06:12
MinatakuAh06:12
MinatakuThen they're just assholes06:12
Minataku:306:12
dr_willisThen theres the case of.. what will ya do in 2 years.. give the box to some kid/cousin/sister.. they proberly will want windows on it...06:13
illDecreeyeah, HW is ident....but the OS makes a 50 buck difference.....sad...06:13
BlackBsdi bought the laptop before dell anounced linux support06:13
Kdawg532if i bought a new dell i would get linux cause i hate vista06:13
MinatakuThey can use Linux or piss off06:13
Minataku:D06:13
dr_willis'support' for linux from dell = means what exactly? :)06:13
dr_willisExpect them to teach you the shell?06:13
illDecreenow they are makin money on the linux people too! haha, i htought i might buy one tho, just to support the linux thing.....   maybe it's just me, and im stupid tho, :-D06:13
BlackBsdbut mine has all the same components..06:13
BlackBsdand it all pretty much works06:13
BlackBsdbut i lost my custom kernel conf file06:13
Minataku"Support? #ubuntu"06:14
BlackBsdwith only my hardware stuff enabled06:14
MinatakuX306:14
Kdawg532i am using kubuntu in a dell box that originally came with xp prof06:14
Kdawg532it works great06:14
BlackBsdi have been trying to google for it with no luck06:14
illDecree'support' from dell for linux means: "is you're computer turned on? common mistake..... is you're monitor plugged in...another common mistake..... umm...check the forums on ubuntu's website, have a good day"    :-D06:14
MinatakuI'm using Gentoo on a Toshiba laptop06:14
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dr_willis:)06:15
Minatakulol06:15
dr_willisSoon will have Rock 2.0!06:15
illDecreei'm using gentoo on a dell 1.8 p4, ill tell ya, it runs GREAT!06:15
dr_willisI did find my C64 CPM cartridge today!06:15
MinatakuAwesome! :D06:15
Kdawg532i am going to get a slave disk in my lappy and put kubuntu 64 bit on it and see how it runs06:15
dr_willisi just got no software for it.06:15
illDecreeMinataku: did you have 802.11 in you're laptop?06:15
dr_willis:)06:15
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illDecreei had a linksys adapter, i couldn't find drivers for06:15
BlackBsdwell its like the openmoko phone.06:16
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BlackBsdi cant wait till i get one.06:16
BlackBsdgentoo has been on this dell laptop for about a year now.06:16
dr_willisBlackBsd,   looking forward to those also.06:16
MinatakuillDecree: Yes, fully supported, too06:16
dr_willisGot a GP2x right now. :) handheld/game thing. thats running linux.06:16
MinatakuMy laptop ("Piyoko") was purchased in 200306:16
illDecreewow.... thats awesome06:17
MinatakuShe's got an orinoco_cs card06:17
rayluoh god06:17
MinatakuFully open chipset06:17
raylufirst boxen, now "she" for laptops?06:17
BlackBsdon thing is that my wireless works in ubuntu and not in gentoo..06:17
BlackBsdmust be a config isue06:17
Minatakuraylu: I have systems with male names that are "he"s06:17
BlackBsdissue06:17
rayluthat's why i say "it"06:17
BlackBsdi got built in 394506:17
illDecreedamn, you ever play w/the linksys WRT54GL models?06:17
Minatakuraylu: Personal preference06:17
illDecreei have one of the older ones that worked fine before they release the "L" series06:17
MinatakuHeh06:18
BlackBsddr_willis, they got the developer phones ready to go...06:18
BlackBsdbut i want the model with the built in wifi06:18
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dr_willisBlackBsd,  wee... :) The new lPhone!06:18
dr_willis:)06:18
MinatakuMy router is fine, that's just a regular old router, 802.11b06:18
dr_willislike i need one...06:18
BlackBsdi want dell to support freebsd also06:18
BlackBsdthat would be cool06:18
MinatakuDon't bother with the iPhone, it's a piece of crap06:18
Minatakubrb, bathroom06:19
illDecreehave you heard of the linux s/w for the linksys routers? pretty cool....but nothing too major..it basically makes a home router more commercial....kinda....06:19
dr_willisI want dell to quit trying to shove extra crud i dont need down my throat when i go to buy a pc.06:19
mileshey06:19
dr_willis:)06:19
miles127.0.0.1, hack me06:19
raylulmao06:19
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dr_willis"Want a fast Quake Server! Try  '/server 127.0.0.1' "06:19
dr_willis:)06:19
BlackBsdi had the iphone for 4 days06:19
BlackBsdi took it back06:19
intelikeymiles i already own 127.0.0.1 joo06:19
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mileshaha06:19
intelikey:)06:19
illDecreeyeah, i broke an iPhone last week, i was playing w/ a guy from work's iPhone, and i fuct it up, i'm not sure how....but somehow, i managed to make it shutdown, and never boot again......strange06:19
K-RyanWhoa whoa whoa06:19
BlackBsdthe openmoko is going to kill it with features06:20
K-RyanYou stole my IP?06:20
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dr_willisHay! thats MY ip!06:20
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milesiPhone is weak because apple didnt release a SDK06:20
milesfor the public06:20
intelikeyand to think i could have locked his box up....06:20
dr_willisiPhone is weak because of apple06:20
dr_willis:)06:20
BlackBsdiidecree, that was only one model where they used linux firmware06:20
milespwn06:20
BlackBsdi think they stopped making that model06:21
illDecreethe other routers, you could flash it w/linux firmware...thats what i did...its not bad, but i wish i could go back to the OEM simplicity, to be honest w/ya06:21
milesare you talking about dd-wrt?06:21
MinatakuBack06:21
dr_willisI got a Linksys NSLU2 'unslung' that runs Linux. ... somewhere....06:21
dr_williswonder where i put that.06:21
illDecreethey made a few that supported it, had to do w/the size of the chips, and some other shit...but then they released the "L" series...(WRT54gL) that went back to the old specs so people could flash it w/linux06:21
milesi recently flashed my wrt54gs with dd-wrt06:22
milesits pretty sweet06:22
mileswireless bridge is nice06:22
illDecreei never got into it too badly, i just flashed it, played w/it a lil, configured it the way i wanted it, and honestly, thats the last time i was even logged into that router for anything other than to add another MAC to the filter list....06:22
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tksrowe: well its working now... hopefully it stays working this time06:29
tki still dont see the wifi stuff like I did before though in the network manager06:29
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intelikeycomputius say "word is four letter word"06:31
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ubuntu__Could anyone help me with a complicated partition problem?  I've messed up my partition table, apparently...and fdisk and cfdisk can no long see two partitions that are actually still there.  I used a partition doctor program on windows, and can see that they still exist. However, it';s only a demo so it wont let me repair the problem.06:36
intelikeyubuntu__ testdisk06:37
intelikey!info testdisk06:37
ubotutestdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB06:37
ubuntu__testdisk? ok thank you06:37
intelikeycan be installed on the live cd and ran from there...06:38
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ubuntu__excellent, im on the livecd so good06:39
ubuntu__hehe06:39
ubuntu__ill try that06:39
ubuntu__thank you06:39
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intelikeyit's usage is pretty streight forwaard   but you probably want to read about it first so it doesn't frighten you.06:39
intelikeyyeah your nick kinda gave that away06:39
lunar-ravenoh duh06:40
lunar-ravensorry06:40
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lunar-ravenLol06:40
hitmanWillylol06:40
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Kr4t05I have a rather silly question that probably belongs in -offtopic, but... Why isn't Firefox in Kubuntu by default?06:41
intelikey_hiddencause konqueror is06:41
Kr4t05Right...06:42
sfirefirefox = barf06:42
hitmanWillyKr4t05: its a gtk app and doesn't fit into the whole kde/qt look and feel thing06:42
sfireIMHO06:42
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MinatakuBecause KDE demands on idiotic reimplementations06:42
lunar-ravenwow06:42
Minatakuala Konq and KOffice06:42
lunar-raventhat program sees them06:42
lunar-raven=)06:42
klobsterany idea why kaffeine is crashing?  it's only on my user, other users are fine06:42
Kr4t05Well, IMHO, Konqueror is a mediocre file manager that pretends to be a web browser in it's spare time.06:42
MinatakuKr4t05: Congrats, you win06:43
sfireklobster: try deleting the configuration files in your user account and let it re-create (assuming you have no important settings)06:43
Minatakulol06:43
hitmanWillyklobster: are you in all the necessary groups?06:43
Kr4t05Why not just ditch Konqueror and use Kommander as a file manager and use something else?06:43
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Kr4t05Or, it Konq the only QT-based browser out there?06:44
hitmanWillyright now konq is the closest *ducks*06:45
lunar-ravenintelikey that's amazing, it fixed it.06:45
lunar-raventhanks so much06:45
Kr4t05Why I'm asking this is because I just re-installed in the hope it would fix a disk issue, all of my settings are beautifully preserved, thanks to my separate /home partition.06:46
Kr4t05However, none of my favorite apps exist, anymore.06:46
Kr4t05So, apt to the rescue!!06:46
Kr4t05Dun Du-Daaaaa!06:47
Kr4t05*Ahem*06:47
sfireisn't that how everyone does it?06:47
Kr4t05I dunno... But, I'm off to bed whilst I wait for Apt to do it's magic.06:48
Kr4t05Night folks.06:48
hitmanWillylater Kr4t0506:48
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Miltoshi ppl:-)06:58
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raylu!ntfs07:00
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:00
rayluwow =\07:05
raylufmask=0111,dmask=000007:05
rayluwhat are f and d?07:05
raylubecuase that just solved all my problems.07:05
crimsunfile & directory.07:07
rayluer...07:07
rayluso it sets all the files to 011107:07
rayluwhich is octal for...?07:07
rayluand it looks to me like no one has access to directories that way07:08
NightBird707:08
NightBirder... wait, 0111 is the octal format?07:08
rayluthat's what i thought too07:08
rayluit should be 077707:08
rayluat least that's what i'm used to seeing07:08
Minataku*mask is in 8's complement07:09
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MinatakuA value of 0777 in *mask will return (7)00007:10
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Minataku0111 will make everything (7)66607:10
MinatakuWhich is hardly desireable07:10
Minataku666, BTW, rw-rw-rw-07:11
MinatakuYou need execute permissions on directories07:11
MinatakuOtherwise they can't be traversed07:11
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HanzZhi.. after qt4.3 feisty update i have problem with system tray icon07:15
HanzZit has broken transparency (the background is black)07:15
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HanzZcan someone confirm it?07:16
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heithshola?07:27
Miltoshi ppl:-) again... i've got a minor problem: "eject" cd rom works only when i type "sudo eject" in the bash, the right click asks for sudo preveleges...strange? any help?07:27
heithshey, I'm trying to get my MCSE for a job... (trust me, not looking forward). I wanted to get some advice from some Microsoft people. Problem is, I've never seen an irc for microsoft. Maybe its because I never wanted to.  But does anyone know what server they are hiding out on?07:27
heithsadd yourself to the cdrom group07:27
klobsterheiths: try #mcse07:28
heithsnice, thanks07:28
heithsI swear there wasn't any ms rooms last time I looked here on freenod07:29
heithsbah, its dead... I guess people don't like to talk about microsoft much07:30
klobsterok, so i went into .kde/apps/kaffeine/ and deleted the xine.conf and some other thing, but kaffeine is still crashing.07:30
klobsterwhat is the command that lets me watch how a program loads and calls out?07:31
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heithsverbose mode?07:32
klobsteractually, I think it's a xine issue... gxine gives a segfault07:32
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heithswhat are you trying to play?07:32
klobsterit's file agnostic07:32
klobstereven dvd's die07:33
klobsteroh yeah, strace07:33
heithsso it crashes before you attempt to play anything?07:33
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klobsteryup07:34
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heithscompiled or binary install07:34
HanzZhow can i set focus on mainwindow which i show()07:34
klobster.deb07:34
HanzZ?07:34
HanzZklobster: ubuntu?07:34
klobstersorry, HanzZ not for you07:34
klobsterHanzZ: show() ? what language please?07:35
HanzZoh07:35
HanzZsorry :) i'm in bad channel :)07:35
HanzZi want to be in #qt :)07:35
klobsterI thought as much07:36
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HanzZhm.. when i'm here.. i'm installed some packages from backports and i want to downgrade it to the normall feisty packages. can i do it somehow?07:38
HanzZ*i installed07:38
klobsteryeah, remove backports from your server list, then open adept (or whatever) and choose reinstall07:39
klobsterfor those packages07:39
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Miltoshi ppl:-) again... i've got a minor problem: "eject" cd rom works only when i type "sudo eject" in the bash, the right click asks for sudo preveleges...strange? any help?07:40
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Daisuke-Idoit's mounting your cdrom as root.  why, i haven't a clue.  hope that gives you a place to start, i'm off to bed :\07:43
heithsadd yourself to the cdrom group07:43
heithsdaja vu07:43
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K`zanI'm being told that cdrom0 is busy and gives a pid which doesn't exist, how can I unmount it without rebooting?  TIA!08:05
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K`zanCan't even unmount it as root!08:06
K`zanTime for the BRS or a paperclip :-/.08:07
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jukebox_buenos dias08:10
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conorkirkpatrickCan anybody tell me where .xinitrc lives? (and not the one in my home folder)08:39
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Miltoshi ppl:-) again... i've got a minor problem: "eject" cd rom works only when i type "sudo eject" in the bash, the right click asks for sudo preveleges...strange? any help?08:58
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sfireMiltos: yep09:04
Miltossfire: any solution?09:04
sfireyou need to give yourself permission to do it in the fstab file09:04
sfirelet me check on that file name09:05
sfiremay not be fstab... just 1 moment09:05
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sfireyep it is09:05
sfirethis is my line09:06
sfire/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       009:06
sfireI believe the word "user" is what allows it to be ejected and mounted by users09:07
sfireI've had to modify that file for hard drives before09:07
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Miltossfire: thanks...just a moment...09:11
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Yz85Racerhey everyone, when I install the jdk of Java, how do I know if it worked?09:16
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purpleposeidonwhat's a command to get stats like processer speed, amount of RAM....?09:41
stepheni think its sysinfo09:42
stephenbut you need more than that09:42
stepheni think...09:42
sfirecat /proc/cpuinfo09:42
sfirecat /proc/meminfo09:42
stephenlol09:42
stephenalmost09:43
sfiremodel name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T5600  @ 1.83GHz09:43
sfirehehehehe09:44
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stephenis that a good one?09:44
stepheni dunno09:45
stephenis it core duo?09:45
sfirecore2duo09:45
stephensfire do you have any clue how i could update alsa?09:46
sfireupdate?09:46
stephenno one is in #alsa09:46
stephenyes09:46
sfirehow so?09:46
stephenin gutsy my sound works09:47
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stephenin feisty it doesnt09:47
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stephengutsy has a codec for my ati ac97 driver09:47
stephenmodprobe snd-atiixp model=ac97_codec=009:48
stephenwhen i type that in on gutsy it enables my sound09:48
sfireahh so you need the module for it09:48
stephenyes i think09:48
stephen:)09:48
sfirehave you looked for snd-atiixp in the available software?09:49
stephennope09:49
stephenlol09:49
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stephenit pakage manager?09:49
stephenin*09:50
krautmoin09:50
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sfirestefan: yea09:50
stephenstefan??? :O09:50
sfireI didn't actually look myself but you never know09:50
sfireoops stephen09:50
sfireif not http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?module=atiixp09:51
sfirethat guide looks geared exactly for it09:51
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stephenbrb09:53
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ryjinHey folks10:27
SlimeyPetehi10:27
ryjinI am some what of a newb10:27
ryjinCan you help me with getting Limewire running?10:28
pag!limewire | ryjin10:28
uboturyjin: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.10:28
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ryjinwow, thank you10:28
ryjinthat was pretty fast10:28
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jlundWhat is the best way to check disk integrity?10:29
sepeda`Tuawew10:29
SlimeyPetefsck10:29
gesturehad anyone found a way to improve the performance (fps) for the ati graphical cards ?10:29
sepeda`Tuawhere i am?10:29
SlimeyPetesudo fsck /dev/<disk-device-name>10:29
pagsepeda`Tua, Kubuntu support channel10:30
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dude1any women here wanna chat?10:30
gesture^^10:31
gesturelol ?10:31
pag!coc | dude110:31
ubotudude1: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/10:31
jlundSlimeyPete: So theoretically will fsck let me know if I have a bad disk?10:31
ryjinJava runtime eviroment?10:31
pagryjin, probably yes. I guess it's the only thing you need10:31
SlimeyPetejlund: should do10:32
SlimeyPetejlund: check "man fsck" for various option - you can control the level of checking, make it look for bad sectors etc10:32
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gestureso , no one knows how to improve the frame rate in kubuntu (fps) for graphical design etc.10:32
jlundSlimeyPete: And I assume I must do this from a recovery console right?10:32
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paggesture, ATI cards can be really problematic... you could try installing closed ati drivers, but there's a slight chanse they'll mess your system up even more10:33
SlimeyPetejlund: it's usually best to do so if you are planning on checking your main disk10:33
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jlundSlimeyPete: Thanks10:34
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x_linkHi10:34
x_linkI just installed Kubuntu.10:35
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x_linkWhy can't I change channels with Alt+number?10:35
pagx_link, which client?10:35
x_linkpag: Irssi.10:36
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x_linkThis worked just fine before.10:36
ryjinfor some reason java is not wanting to install10:36
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pagx_link, and what terminal emulator are you using?10:37
x_linkde]  has joined #debian10:37
x_link10:33 -!- unknow990 [n=medianet@87.50.229.186]  has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:37
x_linkpag: Konsole.10:37
x_linkpag: This has alwats been working before.10:37
pagx_link, hmm... pretty strange then... works for me just fine... have you changed any settings in either of them lately?10:38
pagryjin, does it give any error mesg?10:38
x_linkpag: No10:38
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x_linkDamn this is really strange.10:39
x_linkI can't work like this.10:39
ryjinno10:39
ryjinwell10:39
x_linkSo it's not possible to change channel with Alt+number in kubuntu?10:39
ryjinIf I didn't make it executable it says , the file is corrupt10:39
TiMiDoryjin, what file is it?10:39
pagryjin, what file? :P10:39
pag!java | ryjin10:40
uboturyjin: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.10:40
TiMiDogrrr10:40
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ryjinthe name of the file is10:40
ryjinj2re-1_4_2_15-linux-i586-rpm.bin10:41
hilaryHi, im going to sound really stupid (Im really new to Linux) But how do you change the screens resolution? lolz10:41
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pagryjin, just enable the Multiverse and install with adept / apt-get10:41
TiMiDoryjin, chmod a+x j2re-1_4_2_15-linux-i586-rpm.bin10:41
TiMiDothen ./j2re-1_4_2_15-linux-i586-rpm.bin10:41
TiMiDobut just download the other file10:41
TiMiDofrom java10:41
pagTiMiDo, is it really that smart to install from outside the repos?10:42
TiMiDoryjin, get this one Linux (self-extracting file)  filesize: 18.22 MB10:42
TiMiDopag, yeah. i do not see nothing wrong with that.10:42
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ryjinalrighty10:43
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ryjinI'm extremely tired so i might have to say it for tommorow10:45
pagTiMiDo and ryjin; it's of course up to you, but I'd really suggest not to install anything from outside the repos, especially when the newest version is in there10:45
TiMiDopag, .. says who?10:47
ryjinGood night folks, I'll do this tommorow when I'm fully awake and functional10:47
LynoureTiMiDo: common sense?10:47
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TiMiDohmm okey10:48
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mahallo10:59
runleveltenhello ma11:00
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maHallo run... first time here in irc.....11:01
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praecoxhey guys11:38
praecoxhow am I suppose to permanently change ulimit -n for specified user?11:38
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ardchoille!coc11:55
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/11:55
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MidMarkhi guys someone else has big problems with qt 4.3 released for feisty-backports?12:00
MidMarkI have a lot of visual problems with skype 1.4 for example12:01
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OlliKHi, all!12:04
SlimeyPetehi12:04
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OlliKCan someone help me with upgrading? I'd like to update few packages, and I used to have this adept-updater on which I closed and can't find anymore (it's different from adept manager). Anyway, now when I plan to update all packages to newest version, I noticed that I can also probably do it in Adept Manager, but there are two options: "Safe Upgrade" and "Full Upgrade". Can someone tell me the difference? I didn't find anything from google/ubuntuforums and al12:06
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OlliKI'm using Feisty so I'm not upgrading to a newer version, I only want to get the latest versions of the software12:07
OlliKIf no one knows the difference, also helpful would be if someone could help me to find a way to start this "adept updater" program12:10
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Haussup hoes12:17
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liebelocahola12:18
liebeloca:-)12:18
liebelocahalloo...12:19
liebeloca??12:19
Haus:)12:20
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liebeloca:-)12:21
liebelocahaallo haus12:21
Haus:P12:22
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liebeloca??12:22
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Ind[y] Although "Update Notifier" is enabled to run at the start of the session, it does not display me the updates. I have to manually run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in order to update my software. Why? I mean, it does not appear an orange box at the system tray when there are updates available, so I can click on it and update-manager will start.12:28
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JjohnInd[y] , happens for me like that too dont know the answer thugh :(12:30
Jjohnthough12:30
Ind[y] Jjohn: :-(12:30
Ind[y] Maybe we should report it as a bug at launchpad.12:30
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JjohnInd[y] , Maybe   BTW if you do dist-upgrade  it is a bit smarter than upgrade12:31
Ind[y] Jjohn: why?12:32
JjohnInd[y] , Not sure that is what I read in "ubuntu unleashed" so I do it that way now12:32
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Ind[y] Jjohn: ok :P12:33
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Dufresn3anyone uses wengophone?12:46
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Dufresn3query me12:47
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Dufresn3...please!12:47
Miltosmy cd rom ejects only when i type "sudo eject", the right click doen't work...any solution?12:48
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LynoureMiltos: usually it's a matter of the cd being read by something, e.g. user being on the path12:49
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LynoureMiltos: but I'm not on kubuntu at the moment, so I cannot check and compare12:49
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MiltosLymoure: i've checked the fstab and seem Okey...12:49
LynoureMiltos: what about  lsof | grep cdrom  ?12:50
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FSHeroHi all: In KMix, I see two bars on the output tab: "PCM" and "PC speaker".12:50
FSHeroI want PCM to be the 'default'... but when I single-click KMix's icon and drag the slider, it changes the PC Speaker (which is useless).12:50
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MiltosLymoure: just a minute12:50
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MiltosLynoure: nothing happens...12:52
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Dufresn3anyone uses wengophone? query me please12:54
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svq41nick eem2412:55
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emm24exit12:55
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Hauswhat do you use to play *.wma files?01:05
stephen!wma01:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:05
Hauswtf? i have these files in wma!! i dont give a shit about ogg or anything else01:06
Hausogg theora01:06
stephen!language01:06
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:06
Hausomg01:06
stephenlol01:06
Hausyeye01:06
Hausu and your !! ! ! !01:07
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runleveltenWhat a fool.01:07
stephenme a fool?01:07
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runleveltenOf course not :P01:07
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Hausrunlevelten ofcourse you are a fool. you dont contribute shit01:08
runleveltenOh, don't I?01:09
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runleveltenhaha01:09
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Hausi love these hoes who come from nowhere and act all einstein and stuff01:09
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runleveltenWell, I'm sure you're a contributive chap. We must compare patch activity some time. For now though, let's go back to our respective tasks.01:11
runleveltenFor me, that will be fixing bugs today. For you, oh, I don't know, watching sport?01:11
runleveltenthanks for the kind words ;)01:11
Hausrunlevelten lol u sound like a porno bot01:11
Haus:)01:11
amdiakMorning01:12
LynoureHaus: ?01:12
amdiakhow can I join the french chainnel?01:13
HausLynoure do you need medication aswell?01:13
LynoureHaus: !ops01:13
Lynoureoops :)01:13
Lynoure!ops | Haus01:14
ubotuHaus: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!01:14
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HobbseeHaus:01:14
Hobbseedont be a pain01:14
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amdiakHaus can you help me to join a french channel?01:14
Hobbseeamdiak: type /join #kubuntu-es01:14
meuhlolamdiak: /join #kubuntu-fr01:14
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meuhlolHobbsee: he ask for french not for spanish xD01:15
runleveltenGah :@01:15
stephenlol01:15
meuhlol!fr | amdiak01:15
ubotuamdiak: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:15
Hobbseeer...oops01:15
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Hobbseebrain is a bit shattered01:15
meuhlolahahaha01:15
shad-99Hi01:15
Hobbseeand i've been to spain recently, so...01:15
meuhlolehehehe ;)01:15
shad-99Any one knows why my login screen won't show?01:16
amdiakthanks01:16
runleveltenSomeone has been spreading their stupid sauce everywhere, closing bugs willy nilly :(01:16
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shad-99i have a webserver apache2 and it works but when i restart it i can't manage to get to login screen?01:17
eborgesoi01:17
shad-99Pls some help me?01:17
runleveltenwhat, an ssh login or something shad-99?01:17
shad-99me?01:18
eborgesthis is a web chat online??01:18
Lynoureeborges: this is a support channel01:18
eborgesgood01:18
Hobbseeeborges: basically.01:18
Lynoureeborges: the chat channels are #ubuntu-offtopic and #kubuntu-offtopic01:18
runleveltenshad-99: are you saying that when you restart your webserver your ssh doesn't start?01:19
runlevelten*sshd01:19
shad-99everything starts01:19
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eborgesthe support channel is a good idea to me01:19
shad-99but i can't get to login screen01:19
vbanaithi01:19
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runleveltenwhat login screen are you trying to get to?01:19
runleveltenwhat, the GUI thing?01:19
vbanaiti am installing kubuntu. some issues with network.01:19
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vbanaitpl help01:19
shad-99the normal kubuntu dapper login screen01:19
stephenvbanait try to enable the ethernet01:19
stephenifconfig eth0 up01:20
shad-99it shows the loadin bar but that's it?01:20
eborgessomebody knows a todo list to Ubuntu?01:20
vbanaitinstaller identifies firewall card, but not network card. both are same01:20
eborgesI use to-do list from Kontact01:20
Lynoureeborges: I use Basket for mine, but there are other apps as well.01:20
stephensudo dpclient eth0 i think01:20
vbanaitnetwork area donot show ethernet01:20
stephenoh01:21
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vbanaitstephen: pl hlp01:21
eborgesLynoure... thanks I will try01:21
stephengo to sytem settings and then network setting check whether your card is found01:22
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vbanaitI did lspci. It identifies the hardware. i am chatting using same hardware on windows01:22
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runleveltenshad-99: can you get at the logs?01:23
vbanaiteven the live cd fails to detect the network (wired network001:23
shad-99how to do that?01:23
shad-99Im stupid newbie ;)01:23
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vbanaitStephen: i had to install windows as network card was not identified by ubuntu and kubuntu. Do you think other linux distros will help01:25
shad-99i manage to run a ssl apache2 server and it works great..  -But i turned it of yesterday.. and now i can't to login.. cos login screen seems to hang?01:25
vbanaitStephen; r u there01:26
stephenvbanait i dunno what to do01:26
meuhlolafter Feisty Fawn, what distro will be (what name?) and for what date is?01:26
stephenive only had linux for 4 days01:26
stephengutsy and october 200701:26
stephengutsy something01:26
stepheni cant remember01:26
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vbanaitoh. i am senior to you in this respect01:27
vbanait8 days01:27
meuhlolGutsy Gibbon Tribe 2 actually, second alpha lol01:27
vbanait:-D01:27
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stephenits 7.10 too01:27
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meuhlolyep01:28
stephenim running the tribe 2 cd now01:28
stephenlol01:28
meuhlolneed to know what changes it would be ;)01:28
stephenwell its a lot better01:28
vbanaitwhat is tribe 201:28
stephenthere is a better tar.gz pakage installer01:28
meuhlolvbanait: tribe 2 is the second alpha version of (K)ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (so 7.10)01:29
stephenin kubuntu there is finally a resolution gui01:29
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vbanaitalpha version. means lots of bugs isnt it01:29
meuhlolstephen: you test Gutsy Gibbon now? So what's changes you see?01:29
meuhlolvbanait: yes :)01:29
vbanaitmy god. you people have great courage01:30
meuhlolvbanait: last stable is Feisty Fawn :)01:30
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vbanaiti tried it with network card remaining undetected01:30
meuhloli'm on :) but wanna be in courses for Gutsy Gibbon :D01:30
meuhlolvbanait: you ethernet card is not detected?01:30
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vbanaityes. it is not detected01:31
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vbanaitinstaller identifies firewall card but not eth card01:31
vbanaitO:-)01:31
meuhlolvbanait: what is mark & model of your card?01:31
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vbanaiti AM on windows machine now. dual boot. pirated windows01:32
stephenmeuhlol: there is a new package manager, Xterm, UXterm a partition manager built in01:32
stephenvbanait: how did you set up a dual boot?01:32
vbanaitChinghou microelectronics Inc01:32
vbanaitinstall windows first and then ubuntu01:33
meuhlolvbanait: try lspci under konsole when you are on nux01:34
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vbanaiti did. it identifies card01:34
vbanaitbut network donot show it01:35
meuhlolvbanait: also you can try this: http://hardinfo.berlios.de/web/HomePage01:35
meuhlolafter you can google it for "howto" install your card drivers01:36
vbanaitRealtek RTL8139 PCI fast Ethernet Adapter Properties01:36
stepheni have that01:37
stephenit works fine01:37
stephenreinstall kubuntu01:37
vbanaitdid thrice01:37
stepheni was having problems with it too01:37
stephenok01:37
vbanaithow did you sort it out01:37
stephentry ifconfig eth0 in terminal01:37
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vbanaitok01:37
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stephenthe sudo dpclient eth001:37
vbanaitthen01:37
stephenthen sudo dpclient eth001:38
vbanaitok01:38
stephendoes it work?01:38
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vbanaiti will have to boot out of windows and login again on linux01:39
stephenlol01:39
vbanait:-D01:39
meuhlolvbanait: i found it for you: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=6&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false01:39
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stephenill brb01:39
stephenbooting into feisty01:39
stephenlol01:39
meuhlolvbanait: just follow the link that i gave you... d/l drivers, install & be happy :p01:40
vbanaitthanks01:40
meuhlolyou're welcome :)01:40
vbanait Linux driver (driver has built-in the kernel) N/A 2007/3/12 0k - -01:41
eddyspagettyhi, is it possible with a script to in/decrease the mastervolume about 5% ?01:41
vbanaitis the massage01:41
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stephenright back01:42
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vbanaitmeuhlol: linux drivers not avilable01:43
vbanait:-(01:44
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meuhlolhein?01:44
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meuhloltry packet driver vbanait :)01:45
vbanaitokay01:45
vbanaithow do i install them01:45
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vbanaitAre they for linux01:46
vbanaitthere is a exe file01:46
meuhlolread "readme.txt" joined into...01:46
meuhlolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa oO01:46
meuhlolwait01:46
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vbanaitmeuhlol: ?01:51
meuhlolvbanait: re01:51
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meuhlolvbanait: try this in terminal "ls /lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers/net/ | grep 8139too" (without " & replace * by your kernel version)01:52
vbanaiti have fiesty fawn01:53
vbanaitwhat kernel version01:53
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meuhlolvbanait: or you do that: ifdown eth001:53
meuhlolafter modprobe -r 8139too01:54
meuhlolafter: modprobe 8139too01:54
meuhlolafter: ifup eth001:54
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vbanaitokay i try it and will be back thanx01:55
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meuhloland try to add to /etc/network/interfaces this lines:01:56
meuhlolauto eth001:56
meuhloliface eth0 inet dhcp01:56
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meuhloland on ubuntu you have: gksudo network-admin01:57
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stangiHi @ all01:59
meuhlolhi02:00
stangisomeone her who speak german?! I`am a N00b in English and Linux :/02:00
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godHello all, is there anyone out there who could give me a hand with my new kunbuntu install, i need to get my ATI drivers up and runing ( newbie )02:01
meuhlol!de | stangi02:02
ubotustangi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:02
stangithx :)02:02
progreSShi ALL02:02
meuhlol!ati | god02:02
ubotugod: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:02
godthank you very muchly02:02
progreSShey people...02:03
meuhlolstangi: i don't speak deutch, just know how to say "kleine sweine" "hitler kaput" "dunken" xD02:03
progreSSare there any JAVA programmers in here???02:03
dasnipaeveryone bow in my presence, I just ordered my new license plates... and I managed to get 'KUBUNTU'02:03
meuhlol!java | progreSS02:03
ubotuprogreSS: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.02:03
meuhlolops :s02:04
progreSS<ubotu> what??02:04
progreSS<ubotu> well.. i guess you are a bot ))02:04
meuhlol!ubotu | progreSS02:04
ubotuprogreSS: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:04
dasnipa!bot02:04
dasnipaerm ya02:04
progreSS02:04
progreSS02:04
FSHero!Multiverse02:04
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:04
progreSS))02:04
meuhlolprogreSS: it's an bot :p but you are at kubuntu support forum xD02:04
progreSS<meuhlol> are you a bot as well? )02:05
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meuhlolprogreSS: no! me im real :p02:05
progreSS=)02:05
progreSSnice02:05
progreSS<meuhlol> so i need you help, please )02:05
progreSS<meuhlol> do you know any programmers' channels?? pleeease02:06
meuhlolI know an bot, she's name is Anna  Basshunter xD02:06
progreSS=)02:06
meuhlolprogreSS: just do /list ;)02:06
progreSSno... there's a huuuge list..02:06
progreSS=)02:06
progreSSand it downloads for about an hour ))02:06
meuhlolprogreSS: you will se a list of all available channels here, so if they are one in this network for programmers... i dunno... i stopped programming some years :)02:07
progreSS=)02:07
meuhlolprogreSS: /join #java02:07
progreSS<meuhlol> ok, thanks man02:07
progreSSoh02:07
progreSSreally?02:07
progreSSTHANKS!!02:07
progreSS=)02:07
meuhlolhttp://www.javachannel.net/02:08
meuhlol:)02:08
progreSSdamn02:08
progreSSit says..02:08
meuhlolxD02:08
progreSS[17:07]  [Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel02:08
progreSS=(02:08
meuhlolso /msg NickServ REGISTER <yourpass> :)02:08
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progreSSoh, just a sec02:09
progreSS=)02:09
progreSSlet me try02:09
progreSS)02:09
meuhlolprogreSS: after /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <yourpass>02:09
gir22222Help, i'm using kubuntu 7.04. Where is the restricted devices manager located?02:09
progreSS[17:09]  [Notice]  -NickServ- The nickname [progress]  is already registered02:09
meuhloland after /join #java02:09
meuhlolxD02:09
progreSS(((02:09
meuhlolahahaha02:09
progreSSlet me chose another nickname..02:09
progreSS=)02:09
progreSS*choose02:09
meuhlolso: /nick progreSS102:09
meuhlolxD02:09
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progdamn02:10
meuhlol:)02:10
progit's also registered )02:10
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progreSSive=)02:10
meuhlollol /nick Boten Anna xD02:10
meuhlolor /nick UnregisteredJavaProgrammer :D02:11
progreSSive)))))02:11
progreSSivelol02:11
progreSSivenice02:11
progreSSive=)02:11
meuhlolyou're welcome ;)02:12
progreSSivethanks man :)02:12
progreSSivewell now.. let me join the channel.02:12
progreSSiveoh, here i go!02:12
progreSSive))02:12
gir22222Anyone? where is the restricted devices manager located?02:12
progreSSive<meuhlol> thanks man! appreciate!02:13
progreSSive=)02:13
meuhlolgir22222: not under Kubuntu :)02:13
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gir22222ah it doesnt have it, ok thanks02:13
meuhlolgir22222: what you need from restricted manager?02:13
gir22222install nvidia drivers02:13
meuhlolgir22222: what is your nvidia model?02:13
gir22222i downloaded and ran as they say, but X exits with an error loading the module02:13
meuhlolprogreSSive: package my.brain.cs;02:14
gir22222geforce2 mx40002:14
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meuhlolimport my.brain; do xD02:14
meuhlolgir22222: wait02:14
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meuhlolgir22222: lspci | grep VGA02:14
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gir22222VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  (rev b2)02:15
meuhlolgir22222: before installing drivers do that in konsole: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup02:15
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meuhlolgir22222: after, also in konsole tape that:02:16
meuhlolsudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings02:16
meuhlolsudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)02:16
meuhlolsudo nvidia-xconfig02:16
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gir22222meuhlol: yeah its done. the problem is after installing them, X doesnt run, and I get stuck, so I need to take the old xorg.conf back again, and reboot, because X gets stuck. I don't know how to rerun it when it has failed. you know it?02:17
progreSSive<meuhlol> what?02:17
meuhlolgir22222: after press [Ctrl] +[Alt] +[<--]  (backspace)02:17
gir22222meuhlol: thats for when its running... but its not running, just black screen with blinking cursor02:17
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gir22222meuhlol: i tried init 1, and then 2, but that kubuntu splash appears and I can't see any console anymore02:18
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shad-99_After rebooting dapper drake i can't get to login screen.. otherwise it works with web server and shit?02:19
meuhlolre all02:19
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meuhlolgir22222: yes02:19
shad-99_any one knows about this bug or what ever it is causing it?02:19
meuhlolgir22222: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:19
meuhlolboot your PC, after at booting press ESC (escape) to be in Grub menu02:20
meuhlolgir22222: once in GRUB menu choose Recovery Mode02:20
gir22222meuhlol: linux-restricted-modules didnt download anything02:20
meuhlolgir22222: in recovery Mode (console) tape sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:21
meuhlolto restore your xorg.conf backup02:21
meuhlolafter boot in normal mode02:21
gir22222meuhlol: is that right, aptitude didnt get the restricted modules.02:21
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meuhlolwhat version of kubuntu you have gir22222?02:22
meuhlolor try the same but replace "aptitude" by "apt-get"02:22
gir22222meuhlol: An another anooying thing here... Kde puts 1280 resolution on monitor, I want it 1024, so I change it on sys settings. After that, restarting X gives me 640! so I have to cp the original xorg.conf so it can return to 1280.02:22
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gir22222meuhlol: now it said is already installed, wtih apt-get02:23
gir22222ok let me try it02:23
meuhlolgir22222: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-legacy etc02:24
meuhlolgir22222: listen02:24
meuhlolboot in recovery console mode02:24
meuhlolrofl02:24
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progreSSive<meuhlol> xaxa )))02:27
meuhlolprogreSSive: have an another question about nux? :)02:28
progreSSivemeuhlol: not yet :)02:30
progreSSivemeuhlol: thanks man, appreciate!02:30
meuhlolprogreSSive: you are always welcome :p /me sing a song: I know an bot, she's name is Anna... tatatata xD02:32
progreSSivemeuhlol: btw, who's Anns?? =)02:33
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meuhlolprogreSSive: if you want to know, get an tour to youtube.com and tape: Basshunter - Boten Anna in a search fields :p02:34
StoneNewtwhy can't I change the kdm login screen from the kubuntu default?02:35
meuhlolprogreSSive: it's an dude 23 years old who make this tube in FL Studio (i'm also music composer :p) and this dude sing in his song: I know an bot, she's name is Anna, she can kick & ban you, blah blah... really stupod words in the song, but the music is eurodanse style, and good rythm :p02:36
StoneNewtI've changed in in the settings but once kdm is fully loaded it flashes to the kubuntu screen and then onyl goes to the config I've chosen AFTER I log in02:36
meuhlolStoneNewt: how do you try do the change?02:36
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StoneNewtin the "system settings" app02:37
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meuhlolStoneNewt: try to do that by this way: open up a terminal & write that: sudo systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m (follow by your super user pass)02:37
progreSSivemeuhlol: =) let me find it..02:37
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gir2222meuhlol: didnt work. xorg log tells me: Failed to load NVIDIA kernel module!02:38
gir2222meuhlol: which is strange since I used to have another distro here, and the nvidia drivers from nvidia website worked. but not with kubuntu now02:38
meuhlolgir2222: you leaved channel before i finish :s02:38
gir2222meuhlol: ah sorry02:39
StoneNewt"unexpected argument %i02:39
meuhlolgir2222: listen please (i will make an notice: [finish]  when i will finish, ok?)02:39
gir2222ok02:39
meuhlolbefore all02:39
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meuhloltake care of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup02:40
meuhlolthe first one02:40
gir2222meuhlol: you mean keep it?02:41
meuhlolafter: restore your first backup xorg.conf02:41
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meuhlolafter that do an: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings02:41
meuhloldo sudo apt-get remove for all nvidia concerning files02:42
meuhlolafter that02:42
StoneNewtmeuhlol: if I drop the caption part it works and I have all my settings I ask for and see for a split second before the kubuntu login screen is revealed02:42
meuhlolreboot your Xorg server by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace02:42
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meuhlolgir2222: after all that open up an console and tape that:02:43
meuhlolsudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings02:43
meuhlolsudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)02:43
meuhlolsudo nvidia-xconfig02:43
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meuhlolgir2222: after that do an: sudo nvidia-settings02:44
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meuhlolgir2222: manage your params and reboot Xorg02:44
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meuhlolthis should be helpful for you02:44
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meuhlolif you don't see a Nvidia logo at startup do that: sudo nvidia-xconfig --logo02:45
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meuhloland02:46
meuhlolgir2222: after installing drivers do that before reboot: sudo nvidia-xconfig02:46
meuhlolthat's all i [finish] 02:46
gir2222meuhlol: after nvidia-settings ?02:46
meuhlolafter installing gir222202:46
gir2222the last thing is nvidia-xconfig. ok02:47
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meuhlol[14:42]  <meuhlol> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings02:47
meuhlol[14:42]  <meuhlol> sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)02:47
meuhlol[14:42]  <meuhlol> sudo nvidia-xconfig02:47
meuhlolafter that you reboot02:47
meuhloland do: sudo nvidia-settings02:47
meuhlolthat's all :)02:47
gir2222ah right02:47
gir2222meuhlol: thanks, gonna try it02:48
gir2222leaving02:48
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meuhlolgir2222: see ya faster :p02:49
StoneNewtmeuhlol: any ideas how to get the log in box to hold to my options?02:49
meuhlolhuh02:49
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meuhlolwhat i told you before, don't works?02:50
StoneNewtnope02:50
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meuhloldon't work at all?02:50
progreSSivemeuhlol: xaxaxa cool music )))02:50
meuhlol!logon02:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about logon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:50
StoneNewtI see my kdm settings for a split second then the kubuntu screen overwrites them02:50
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meuhlol!login screen02:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about login screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:50
Hugs70Hello world02:50
progreSSivehi02:50
Hugs70Am I the only one from France02:51
progreSSivemeuhlol: anna, anna bot... blya blya blya02:51
progreSSive))02:51
progreSSiveHugs70: congrats ))02:51
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Hugs70sorry that was a question !02:51
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meuhlolHugs70: salut :)02:52
meuhlol!fr | Hugs7002:52
ubotuHugs70: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:52
meuhlolxD02:52
Hugs70thanks ubotu are u french ?02:53
meuhlolHugs70: ubotu is an bot (c'est un bot lol)02:53
meuhlolHugs70: va sur kubuntu-fr02:53
meuhlolHugs70:  /join #kubuntu-fr02:53
Hugs70meuhlol  u speak english ? it is not a problem for me02:53
meuhlolHugs70: if you want to know: i'm russian, but i live in france, and i speak: russian, french & english, so xD02:54
progreSSivemeuhlol: wow, respect man!02:55
meuhlolHugs70: but if you want to speak in french and have support in french so join #kubuntu-fr channel. Here (at #kubuntu) we speak only english :)02:55
progreSSivemeuhlol: you know russian?! ))02:55
Hugs70Spassiba meuhlol02:55
meuhlolprogreSSive: yes, im russian xD02:55
progreSSivemeuhlol:  ))02:55
meuhlolprogreSSive:  )) lol02:55
progreSSivemeuhlol:  ! ))02:55
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Hugs70moi ossi parle russe, english, french02:55
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meuhlolprogreSSive: don't write in cyrillic, don't see what you write, see only  ))02:56
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progreSSivemeuhlol: =) okay02:56
progreSSivemeuhlol: so, what are you doing in france??02:56
progreSSive)02:57
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meuhlolprogreSSive: i live in :p (9 years already)02:57
meuhlolprogreSSive: ti russkiy chto li?02:57
progreSSivenu.. ne sovsem russkiy konechno02:58
progreSSive=)02:58
meuhlolahahahahaha02:58
progreSSiveno russkiy znayu ne ploxo )))02:58
meuhlolhohol? xD02:58
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progreSSiveneeet02:59
progreSSive_02:59
progreSSive=)02:59
progreSSivexuje02:59
progreSSive)))))02:59
praecoxo boze, tylko nie po rusku...02:59
arunI can't believe I'm asking this, but is there any way to arrange files in groups in Konqueror?02:59
arunAs in one cluster of image files, one cluster of text files, etc02:59
arunIn the same folder02:59
meuhlolarun: what?03:00
meuhlolahahahaha a ya tatrus (mat tatarka a otets russkiy :p)03:00
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meuhlolkakoy mir malenkiy hahaha vse russkoyazichnie uzhe v linuxe, a pridurki frantsuzi v vista xD ahahaha ya seychas obossus ot mseha:p03:01
arunmeuhlol: Like in Windows, you can arrange files in groups?03:01
progreSSive=)03:01
arunaccording to their type03:01
meuhlolsure arun03:01
progreSSivexaxaxaxa03:01
progreSSiveloooool03:01
progreSSive))))))))))))03:01
progreSSivepadstalom03:01
meuhlolaga xD03:01
arunmeuhlol: how do i do that?03:02
aruni dont mean a simple 'sort by type'03:02
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gir2222meuhlol: apparently it worked but now I'm in a very low resolution and can't raise it03:03
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gir2222meuhlol: also where do I disable programs from running where kde starts?03:04
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gir2222where do I disable programs from running when kde starts?03:04
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arungir222: system settings03:05
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gir2222arun: where there?03:05
arunsystem settings > advanced > session manager03:05
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gir2222arun: dont see the programs there. you mean write the names of the programs there? or empty session?03:06
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arungir222: you want to disable all programs from running when kde starts, right?03:08
arunso, in the 'On Login' section, select 'Start with an empty session'03:08
arunif you want to select specific programs go to System settings > Advanced > Service manager03:09
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arundid you get my messages gir22203:10
gir2222arun: no sorry, what was it?03:10
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arungir2222: you want to disable all programs from running when kde starts, right?03:11
arunso, in the 'On Login' section, select 'Start with an empty session'03:11
arunif you want to select specific programs go to System settings > Advanced > Service manager03:11
gir2222arun: no not all, just a couple03:11
arunthen go to service manager03:11
gir2222arun: they didn't ran, but after I opened them for the first time they run everytime and they have no settings for that on them03:12
meuhlolre all03:12
meuhlolso... people re-answer your problems, cus' i was at phone and don't read your problems03:13
gir2222arun: no they're not there03:13
arunwhich programs03:13
meuhlolgir2222: what after restart?03:13
gir2222meuhlol: nvidia probably worked, but now im on very low resolution03:13
gir2222meuhlol: and cant change it03:13
gir2222meuhlol: actually I can change it to even lower ones03:14
meuhlolgir2222: can you do sudo nvidia-settings ?03:14
gir2222arun: konversation, kopete, so far03:14
gir2222meuhlol: yes03:14
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gir2222meuhlol: but theres almost nothing there03:14
meuhlolgir2222: and when you click at "roll down" menu of resolution select, what you see?03:14
arungir2222: if you go to session manager and select 'start with an empty session' those programs wont open03:15
arunjust select that option03:15
gir2222arun: hmm ok then thanks03:15
arunyour other services will run properly03:15
gir2222meuhlol: theres no roll down menu on nvidia settings window03:15
meuhlolgir2222: open an terminal and write that: sudo nvidia-xconfig03:16
meuhlolgir2222: what it says?03:16
gir2222meuhlol: i read on some forum that nvidia-glx improperly detected modelines, to add use edid false on conf, but didnt help03:16
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gir2222meuhlol: it just backs up conf and writes a new one03:17
meuhlolok, after that write this: sudo nvidia-settings03:17
gir2222nothing03:17
gir2222same window03:17
meuhlolokey an window is opened, right?03:17
gir2222yes03:17
meuhlolgo to X Server Screen Configuration at your left03:18
gir2222there no option like that03:18
meuhlolwait03:18
gir2222just a blank white box, just written nvidia-settings configuration on top03:18
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meuhlolgir2222: did you see something like that after sudo nvidia-settings? : http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5598/loljx6.png03:19
gir2222meuhlol: oh and when I run nvidia-settings I get some errors and fails on konsole03:19
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meuhlolgir2222: something like:03:20
meuhlolERROR: Error parsing configuration file '/home/ziko/.nvidia-settings-rc' on03:20
meuhlol       line 35: '0/RedBrightness=0.000000' (Trailing garbage).03:20
meuhlol?03:20
gir2222meuhlol: no not like that at all the screen03:20
meuhlolgir2222: don't good installation of drivers03:20
gir2222meuhlol: ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension version 1.6 is too old; the minimimum required version is 1.903:20
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gir2222meuhlol: ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'.03:21
gir2222etc03:21
gir2222meuhlol: but when I restarted X I did see for a sec the nvidia logo03:21
meuhlolyou must to sudo apt-get remove all nvidia concerning files like nvidia-glx etc03:21
gir2222meuhlol: all? which are all? the same as before?03:22
meuhlolgir2222: all that you instaled03:22
gir2222and after reboot?03:22
meuhloldid you have AMD64 or not?03:22
gir2222no03:22
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gir222232 it is03:22
meuhlolafter removing, reinstalling drivers03:22
meuhlolgir2222: okey, try that03:23
meuhlolfirst DL this: http://www.nvidia.fr/content/license/driver_license.asp?language=fr&url=http://fr.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run03:23
meuhlolafter do that: sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run03:23
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meuhlolfor exemple DL a .run file to /home/yourusername directory, after open an terminal and do "cd /home/yourusername"03:24
meuhlolafter sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run03:24
gir2222meuhlol: file not found he03:24
meuhloland read that: http://fr.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/HTML/chapter-03.html03:25
gir2222in french hee03:25
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gir2222it has to be 9755?03:26
meuhlolno03:26
gir2222im downloading it03:26
gir2222but I have here03:26
meuhlolthe page is in english03:26
gir2222963903:26
gir2222and 718503:26
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gir2222and I tried both of them, no success03:26
gir2222meuhlol: its in french here, see the url starts with fr03:27
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meuhlolyeah i know that the uri is starting with .fr03:27
meuhlolbut the text at page is in english :s03:27
meuhlollol03:27
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micmanhello superkiddo r u there?03:28
gir2222meuhlol: when I tried running the drivers from nvidia site... it installs ok, but then X wont run, and xorg tells failed nvidia kernel module03:29
micman i have an open question.03:29
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meuhlolgir2222: hmm sorry, i've told you all what I know :s03:31
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gir2222meuhlol: so you know how to disable certain programs from opening at startup on kde?03:33
gir2222gir2222: like konversation, it just started running at startup after I first ran it03:33
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gir2222meuhlol:  like konversation, it just started running at startup after I first ran it03:33
meuhlolgir2222: sudo systemsettings03:34
meuhlolgir2222: after go to Advanced configs tab03:34
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meuhlolafter search for Applications & Services something like that (iml on french kubuntu so)03:35
meuhloland after you have an list of processuses running at load03:35
meuhlolyou deactivate what u want03:35
blob_sterG'day03:35
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gir2222meuhlol: there is service managaer but none of the programs are listed there03:36
CapaHCan anyone here tell me how I can force the audio output from wine applications through my USB Headset?03:36
BluesKajgir2222, perhaps you didn't close konverstion complately when you shutdown , then when starting your pc back up, konversation automatically will as well03:38
BluesKaj'scuse the mixed tenses03:38
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blob_sterI have a question too :-) Whenever I try running "konsole --types" from a root konsole, I get "konsole: cannot connect to X server". Worked beforehand, and nothing is changed as far as I know.03:39
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berkesdoes anyone know if krita is supposed to be able to open PSDs out of the box?03:39
berkesI recall it being able to do so, but it fails now.03:39
BluesKajoops03:40
BluesKajgir2222, perhaps you didn't close konverstion complately when you shutdown , then when starting your pc back up, konversation automatically does as well03:40
miles_loves konversation03:41
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BluesKajyeah miles_ so do I , but the lack of an automatic server list turns some ppl off ...I'm willing to put up with it tho :)03:42
BluesKajmiles_, fix?03:42
geniiBluesKaj: Me too03:42
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gir2222im having problem compiling a program, i get the error checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.4 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4 gaim >= 1.0... configure: error: glib03:43
BluesKajhi genii :)03:43
miles_yea, usually im just <miles> but now im <miles_>03:43
geniiBluesKaj: Mornin'03:43
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margemi03:43
progreSSivebye people! ==)03:43
blob_stermiles_: that's because someone else took your nick03:43
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BluesKajmethinks gir2222 is running gnome03:44
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miles_:-/03:44
BluesKajregistered miles?03:44
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miles_i dunno03:45
Dufresn3anyone uses ekiga? query me03:45
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miles_i guess not, i dont know what tha tmeans03:45
gir2222BluesKaj: no, kde03:45
geniimiles_: If you register your nickname here, you put a password on it and you can boot anyone else who is using it03:46
BluesKajmiles_, did the text in the server box say that the the nick was registered to someone else ?03:46
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WhtWolfTeraDyne!register | miles_03:46
BluesKajwhen you joined03:46
ubotumiles_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration03:46
CapaHI have USB Headphones however when I run any wine application it uses my laptop speakers. Can anyone tell me what I need to do in order to cause the audio output from a wine application to use my USB Headset instead?  Anyone?03:46
miles_thank you03:47
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persen!subversion03:47
ubotusubversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion03:47
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miles_omg i was just messing with subversion03:48
miles_persen: what are you trying to do with subversion03:48
tinin<CapaH> #winehq03:48
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persenjust setting up a simple repo for a single project, access it via a subversion client in eclipse.03:49
miles_what version of ubuntu u running?03:49
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persenrunning kubuntu feisty03:49
margem_i ppl03:49
miles_i found a great tutorial yesterday, finally got it running03:49
miles_one sec ill go get it for you03:50
margemola tostas03:50
margem_hi03:50
geniipersen: For small things which do not have revisions, maybe falcon03:50
persen!falcon03:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about falcon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:50
margem_need help pvt me plz03:50
miles_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion03:50
perseni need revisision anyway, thats what a code repo does.03:50
geniipersen It is in the seveas repos03:50
margem_only nc girld with big tittes03:50
margem_girls*03:50
margem_and nc ass03:51
margem_:)03:51
margemloool03:51
margem_private me :)03:51
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persenmiles_, link?03:52
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persento that good tutorial03:52
miles_yea03:52
miles_i sent it03:52
jagunsomae: oi03:52
miles_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion03:52
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persen!subversion03:53
ubotusubversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion03:53
persenThats the same tutorial i've found03:53
miles_o, wow03:53
miles_yea, it works though03:53
miles_apt-get install subversion apache2 libapache2-svn03:53
miles_then config 1 file and thats pretty much it03:54
miles_im willing to try and help, although im far from a subversion expert though03:54
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BluesKajwhat does one use subversion for anyway..to save older versions of apps etc ?03:56
CapaHCan anyone help me on this? "asoundconf list" shows me: ICH6 and Headset as two choices. I run this: asoundconf set-default-card Headset --- and *most* applications now are heard through my headset. The problem is, any Wine application I run still comes out of my laptop speaker. I want a way to cause the sound from Wine applications also to go through my headset. Does anyone here know how to do this?03:56
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godcan somone point me in the right direction here, on Kunbuntu 7.04 how do you open the "restricted device manager"? ( reguarding Ati driver install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI)03:57
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BluesKajplaying games in wine CapaH ?03:58
geniiBluesKaj: Basically, yes. So you have a complete history of development03:58
CapaHBluesKaj: Yes03:58
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BluesKajgod , with a nick like that why are you asking us ? but seriously open adept/manage repositories and check the 4 boxes under the Kubuntu Software tab04:02
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CapaHBluesKaj: So... playing games under wine, wanting sound from headset, tips? :)04:02
WhtWolfTeraDyneXD04:02
blob_sterAnother question: where is my Panel setting from my System Settings in Kubuntu 7.04(64bit)04:02
stephenBluesKaj: does Gutsy have java plugin support?04:02
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BluesKajstephen, dunno , sorry04:03
stephenlol04:03
Dufresn3anyone uses ekiga? query me04:03
stephenit has flash support but im not sure bout java04:03
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zzlwho can tell me04:05
geniizzl What exactly is the question?04:06
TheGateKeeperDufresn3, can't get ekiga to work on kubuntu, but I have got it working on gentoo (~x86)04:06
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BluesKajCapaH, open alsamixer while you have wine open , check your settings ...make sure aux , duplicate ,external aren't muted or turned down04:06
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CapaHok..04:07
zzlI don't know how to use irc!04:07
BluesKajzzl , you got here ...ya did something right :)04:07
geniizzl Well, you are here using it right now :) So you are doing OK04:07
zzlI see a tool, konversation04:08
geniizzl Basic things to remember are not to paste in large amounts of things, don't be abusive or type all in capitals.04:08
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zzlthen I enter into this room!04:08
godBluesKaj, that is done, should i do a full upgrade or are there certian pacakage's i need to fast track the driver install04:08
miles_BluesKaj - kinda late i know, but my work uses subversion to maintain changes done to our code04:08
CapaHBluesKaj: In alsamixer, when I see "MM" I assume that means "Mute/Off" --- how do I turn that on? just hitting the up arrow doesn't do the trick04:09
miles_it adds revision numbers to the code, like im working on 2.4.11 right now or something04:09
BluesKajahh IC miles_ ..interesting04:09
zzlwhat is irc? for chatting?04:09
miles_irc is for knowledge04:09
tzangerzzl: complianing, mostly04:09
BluesKajCapaH, use M on the KB to unmute , the result will be 00 in the box04:10
zzlthanks04:10
nodeserti installed compiz but when i run it  all window borders lost04:10
CapaHBluesKaj: Yes04:10
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BluesKajBTW, MM means muted CapaH04:11
CapaHBluesKaj: Ok but this is affecting only the IHC6 card -- the headset is its own 'card' (USB Headset)04:11
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stephenBluesKaj: im going to update to gutsy Tribe 2 when th full release comes out can i update straight to that?04:11
CapaHi.e. when I asoundconf list -- I see: ICH6 and Headset04:11
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BluesKajdunno stephen , I'm not brave enuff to try gutsy yet04:12
stephenlol04:12
CapaHBluesKaj: So the real issue I have is, wine is using ICH6 when I want it to use: "Headset" -- how do I do that?04:12
BluesKajCapaH, beyond me I'm afraid ,,, genii ...anyone ?04:13
BluesKajCapaH, you have 2 soundcards ?04:14
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geniiSoundcard stuff is not my strength :(04:14
CapaHBluesKaj: technically yes, the USB Headset functions as though it is its own sound card04:14
genii<- Networking guy mainly04:14
BluesKajwhere does the signal come from tho ...it has to be processed first , so it must be coming from the default soundcard , right ?04:16
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nodeserti installed compiz but when i run it  all window borders lost04:17
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CapaHBluesKaj: I dont understand04:17
BluesKajwell, neither do i ...sorry I'm confused04:18
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CapaHBluesKaj: The headset I have is USB so it doesn't plug in the headset jack of the normal sound card, -- as far as Ubuntu is concerned, these are two seperate "sound cards"04:18
BluesKajBBIAB , got some stuff to do .... garbage day today04:19
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persenTrying to start apache2 and get: "Unkown DAV provider: syn", syntax error on line 56 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.conf. Any clues/ideas?04:23
persenjust added subversion04:23
tzangerhmm04:23
tzangerapparently i have bluez-utils installed but sdpd does not exist04:23
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aaroncampbellHas anyone had a problem with kpdf trying to print duplex even if it's not set in the printer dialog?  I can't seem to print from kpdf because my printer keeps saying it doesn't have the duplex attachment.  However, I can open PDFs in kghostview and print just fine04:25
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ksivajims announced that after five year vista will be the top os is it so?04:30
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blob_sterAnother question: can you prioritise repositories in apt? For example, if I have a file in my local repository, install from there instead of downloading from other sources?04:31
blob_sterAdept and apt seems to be happy to download everything :-(04:31
CapaHIs there anyone here who can help me? I have "two sound cards" --- My laptop has a built in sound card, and then I have a USB "sound card" (which is actually a headset, but Ubuntu considers it a sound card under asoundconf list) --- My problem is simple: I want the SOUND to come out of the HEADSET and not the Internal Speakers (ICH6) --- Can anyone here help me with this? I tried: asoundconf set-default-card Headset   --- No success. Anyone?04:31
dr_willisksivaji,  from what i recall.. XP will be no longer be sold after the end of this year. (i think thats what the news said)04:31
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ksivaji!defragmentaion04:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about defragmentaion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:36
jd_230 this mourning sorry04:36
blob_ster!defragmentation04:36
ubotudefragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.04:36
blob_ster;-)04:37
ksivajithank you04:37
dr_willis!spyware04:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spyware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:37
dr_willis:)04:37
blob_sterHaving fun :-)04:38
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blob_ster!repository prioritisation04:38
blob_sterNada04:38
stephenoooooooh there are 9 new updates available :)04:39
ksivajii  dont find any .html page only .asp pages are used why ?04:39
blob_sterWhtWolfTeraDyne: does it do any work on its own?04:39
blob_sterWhtWolfTeraDyne: I might borrow it then04:40
WhtWolfTeraDyneblob_ster: not yet. Maybe with some training...04:40
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dr_willis!apt04:41
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)04:41
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persengod damn04:41
WhtWolfTeraDyneyup. it's the touchpad.04:41
persenwhy must everything be so hassleish04:41
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DaSkreechpersen: What is hasselish?04:41
geniiWhtWolfTeraDyne: If you have something like a tablet or laptop touchscreen, if you leave a stylus laying on a table, or somepiece of debris on the touchscreen it will cause that mouse-wandering04:41
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blob_sterWhtWolfTeraDyne: my graphics tablet does funny things when it's near the monitor04:41
genii*stylus on a tablet*04:42
persenhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion done everything explained here, but get error messages i dont understand04:42
blob_sterDavid Hasslehoff ;-)04:42
persenTrying to start apache2 and get: "Unkown DAV provider: syn", syntax error on line 56 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.conf.04:42
Baxtori think ive messed up my kubuntu, is there a way to load up kubuntu with the default drivers (the ones from the first install) im currently on the live cd04:43
DaSkreechpersen: What are you trying to do?04:43
persenhazzleish = hard to do, much "hazzle"04:43
blob_sterdr_willis: the docos only say how to add your own repository. They don't mention actually prioritising it :-(04:43
persenDaSkreech, just set up a simple subversion repo04:44
WhtWolfTeraDyneblob_ster: No touchscreen, just the touchpad. I do want a Wacom Graphite, though...04:44
WhtWolfTeraDyneand genii04:44
blob_sterWhtWolfTeraDyne: I have a Wacom at work, but a Tevion here at home04:44
WhtWolfTeraDyne$199.99 for a Wacom Graphire4 6x8... hmm...04:45
geniipersen: change line 56 to read svn instead of syn04:46
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blob_sterWhtWolfTeraDyne: pretty expensive... my 12x9 Tevion cost me AU$89 (US$50-60)04:47
persengenii, holy s**', no errors at least :D04:47
blob_sterAlthough I can't get pressure sensitive brush in Gimp :-(04:47
dr_willisblob_ster,  check the full apt docs perhaps.. ive never tried that.04:48
geniipersen :)04:48
WhtWolfTeraDyneblob_ster: That's something I'd probably need.04:48
WhtWolfTeraDyneHow is the wacom support on Linux, anyway?04:48
WhtWolfTeraDyne!wacom04:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:49
WhtWolfTeraDyne,,,04:49
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blob_sterWhtWolfTeraDyne: apparently Wacoms are good... Aiptek (Tevion) works fine except that bit :-)04:49
_4strOWhtWolfTeraDyne: it should be ok because i see several line in xorg.conf04:49
geniiwork, AFK 3-5 mins04:49
_4strO!baddevices04:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about baddevices - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:49
WhtWolfTeraDyneHmm...04:49
_4strO!baddevice04:49
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors04:49
blob_sterdr_willis: I'm reading the man for sources.list, maybe it sheds some light04:50
aaroncampbellHas anyone had a problem with kpdf trying to print duplex even if it's not set in the printer dialog?  I can't seem to print from kpdf because my printer keeps saying it doesn't have the duplex attachment.  However, I can open PDFs in kghostview and print just fine04:50
_4strOthose errors usually provide by some lines in the xorg.conf about wacom peripherals04:50
dr_willisblob_ster,  thers also a few large apt  'documention' web sites04:50
dr_willistheres a lot of nifty things apt can do.04:50
ksivajiis there any software to create a pdf file04:51
dr_willisksivaji,  thers a print to pdf option. :)04:51
dr_willisthats all ive ever used.04:51
_4strOksivaji: openoffice04:51
blob_sterdr_willis: It says "The file lists one source per line, with the most preferred source listed first"04:51
blob_sterdr_willis: apparently it ignores the order :-(04:51
dr_willisblob_ster,  first to last is the order.. :) it seems.04:51
dr_willisthen again.. its also checking the version #'s and other things.04:52
ksivajiok04:52
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dr_willisolder one first, gets ignored.. i guess04:52
blob_sterdr_willis: would make no sense, but how would I know ;-)04:52
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dr_willisif an older version of program foo is on  the local repo.. it will go download the newer ones in any case.04:54
persenmiles_, how do you access your repository with the svn:// protocol?04:54
dr_willisI also recall several ways to have a local machine be an 'apt file' cacher to hold the packages for the rest of the lan.04:55
blob_sterProblem is, it seems to download everything from online04:55
dr_willisblob_ster,  it may be evyerhting is outdated. :)04:55
dr_willisor the cache got cleaned..04:55
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blob_sterI just copied my /var/cache/apt/archives to my local repo, tried to install on another PC from this repo, but apt still downloads stuff... weird.04:56
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DaSkreechpersen: Ok did an apt-get install svn04:57
DaSkreechpersen: sorry Phone ran04:57
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miles_persen: you still here?04:58
miles_sorry i was afk04:58
dranasi got a quick question about kubuntu fiesty04:58
dranasi cant seem to change the login manager at all04:58
persenyes04:58
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miles_i tried to access it via svn://, but never could04:59
persenthink i've installed it now, just need to verify i can access it04:59
miles_i do this:04:59
miles_http://hostname/<<path to repos>>04:59
dr_willisdranas,  tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm04:59
geniiblob_ster: For trying to clone what packages from system to system dpkg-get-selections and set-selections are better to use. Just dump the selections into a file, copy it over then use the set-selections to use it05:00
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dr_willis!info aptcache05:00
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ubotuPackage aptcache does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:00
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dr_willisapt-cacher - caching proxy system for Debian package and source files05:00
dr_willisapt-proxy - Debian archive proxy and partial mirror builder05:00
dr_willisOn my home lan -i had setup where the main fileserver was also the 'apt-cacher' for the rest of the lan.05:01
dr_willisthey all got the packages from it.05:01
persenDaSkreech, no package called "svn", but i have subversion installed05:01
blob_sterdr_willis: that's what I'm trying to do as well.05:01
blob_stergenii: I might try that05:01
geniidebconf not dpkg , rather05:01
dr_willisblob_ster,  i recall there being several ways to do it. :) not sure what was the best.. i aint got it going at this time.05:02
geniiblob_ster: Sorry was debconf-get-selections   etc etc not dpkg-get-selections05:02
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miles_persen: did you get it cooking?05:02
persennah05:02
DaSkreechpersen: Yeah sorry subversion05:02
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blob_sterGreat, looks like I have some stuff to try :-) Thanks all the help.05:03
stephengenii: can i use usb speakers instead of a soundcard?05:03
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redhahello I need some help with Beryl on Ubuntu05:04
redhaor rather Kubuntu05:04
geniistephen: I would imagine so. But soundcard troubleshooting is not my area of expertise, not much help there. Networking yes :)05:04
dr_willis!beryl05:04
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects05:04
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dranasi be back after it does or does not work, ill let you know05:05
stephengenii: :)05:05
redhadr_willis: is that for kubuntu also?05:06
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BluesKajok back, CapaH so you're running games of the cdrom drive then sound must coming directly off the cd being converted to analog on the drive dac (I guess there is such a thing) and sent to the USB port to your headset.05:08
DaSkreechpersen: Phone rang again :) you got it sorted?05:08
persennah :/05:08
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persenhm, trying to start svnserve but it says "adress already in use", but i cant find any processes with "svn" in its name.05:10
persenThink i should kill that process and start "svnserve" first05:10
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persenAnd program i can use to kill the process using port XX ?05:11
DaSkreechWhich address ?/05:11
persenport 3690 i think05:11
persenwhich is the default for svnserve05:12
persennvm , it was the inetd that was using it05:13
DaSkreechkk05:13
persenyay, think it works!05:14
persen"Checked out revision 0." may indicate success ?05:15
geniipersen Yes05:15
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dranasit still doesnt work05:16
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dranasit keeps the default login screen and stuff05:16
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miles_god are you there? its me, miles_05:19
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BluesKajmiles_, pray !05:20
miles_hahaa05:20
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geniiBluesKaj: I like to get the cans of Tim horton's coffee to make at home... but it may be unavailable where you are :) Otherwise Melitta coffee and Maxwell House are not bad05:28
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geniiBluesKaj: If there is a coffee specialty place around, try to get some Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee05:28
BluesKajTim Horton's is ok , we have 2 outlets in the area , but I'm not a fan...Melitta might be a consideration05:29
geniiBluesKaj: Melitta is good if you like strong coffee (I do)05:29
BluesKajyup same here05:29
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geniiHmmm 1/2 hr til lunch05:32
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geniiAt lunch I put up a sign saying "LUNCH! Don't bug me til 1PM!! Or ELSE"05:32
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AquilasHi everyone... I have a problem I need help with...05:32
genii!ask | Aquilas05:33
ubotuAquilas: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:33
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Aquilasmy clam av just updated and now the apt-get updater cannot update... says theres another process running05:34
AquilasI don't know what process clam av is running...05:36
geniiAquilas: Likely the automatic update (not for clamav but the general update program) is chugging away in the background05:36
AquilasI tried to kill that too but didn't work05:36
geniiAquilas: Thats it then. You need to wait til it's done, then apt-get commands will work again05:37
StoneNewt9~05:38
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hellooooooi05:38
Aquilasis there some way to find out what process is running apt-get?05:38
geniiAquilas: The clamav is likely NOT what is the issue. More like because the adept updater is running, no other programs which use dpkg or so on can run til it is finished.05:38
geniiAquilas: apt-get uses dpkg as the backend. Same as all the other package managers like adept,synaptic,aptitude etc05:39
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geniiAquilas: When any one of those are running you cannot use any of the others at the same time05:40
Aquilasbut this has been going on for a week now05:40
geniiAquilas: Are you on dialup?05:40
Aquilassurely something would have finished by now... on DSL05:40
pag!aptfix | Aquilas05:41
ubotuAquilas: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:41
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geniiAquilas: Yes, pag may be right. Occasionally if you force one of those to close, it will leave a remnant lockfile which prevents a new instance of anything which will use the package managing system05:42
miles_so im just wondering05:42
miles_how many of you guys are at work right now05:42
BluesKajyup, bet there some broken pkg messages in auto-update that are stalling the pkg manager.05:42
geniimiles_:  I am. If you can call it work, really05:43
miles_laugh05:43
Aquilasrunning the konsole now05:43
miles_me too05:43
AquilasSetting up adobereader-enu (7.0.9-1) ...05:44
Aquilasln: creating symbolic link `/Reader/intellinux/lib/libldap.so' to `/usr/lib/libldap.so.2': No such file or directory05:44
Aquilasln: creating symbolic link `/Reader/intellinux/lib/liblber.so' to `/usr/lib/liblber.so.2': No such file or directory05:44
Aquilasdpkg: error processing adobereader-enu (--configure):05:44
Aquilas subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 105:44
AquilasSetting up ktorrent (2.2-0ubuntu1~feisty1) ...05:44
AquilasErrors were encountered while processing:05:44
Aquilas adobereader-enu05:44
BluesKajadept auto-update should be banned it's nothing but a PITA after the first 2 updates or so after a new install05:44
geniiAquilas: Please do not flood the irc channel05:44
runleveltenAquilas: use fuser to see what program's doing it05:45
Aquilasnot flooding... just posting what the konsole told me...05:45
pag!paste | Aquilas05:45
geniiBluesKaj: I'm inclined to agree05:45
paghmm.. ubotu's slow :(05:45
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runleveltenjust omit the k given above.05:45
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ubotuAquilas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:46
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geniiAquilas: There is a website you can paste large amounts of text to and then report back the URL here so ppl can go see it05:46
geniipag Thx :)05:46
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Aquilashttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30344/05:48
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pag"adobereader-enu" Somehow I'm not even wondering, that it was the closed-source app that messed the dpkg up05:48
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Aquilasso what do I need to do to fix this?05:49
pagAquilas, I found one solution on xandros forums, so I can't guarantee that they'll work. We can try if you want though05:50
Aquilasok05:51
pagAquilas, open konsole and type: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo dpkg -P adobereader-enu05:51
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bitchcheckerhi05:52
bitchcheckergimme your internet address05:52
pagAquilas, in fact; don't use && instead just split that to two commands05:52
bitchcheckeri hack u05:52
bitchcheckeri have hacking program05:52
bitchcheckerits elite05:52
bitchcheckergimme your address it hacks u05:52
bitchcheckeru be dead05:52
Aquilaslike how?05:52
bitchcheckerlike cuz05:53
BluesKaj!ops | bitchchecker05:53
bitchcheckerit hax you05:53
pagbitchchecker, thank you. You really made my day :D05:53
persenis it possible to setup a cronjob to copy a folder (my subversion repo) to a samba share on another box ?05:53
persenas a backup mechanism05:53
bitchcheckeryes05:53
bitchcheckerit is05:53
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philwhi05:53
persen!backup05:53
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning05:53
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pagAquilas, sudo dpkg --configure -a  then wait till it's ready and then only write sudo dpkg -P adobereader-enu05:53
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Hobbseethanks BluesKaj05:54
BluesKajthx Hobbsee05:54
BluesKaj;005:54
Hobbsee:)05:54
philwI have a problem with kopete, if i open it  my cpu has 100% and that 3 minutes. After these 3 minutes  kopete connects with icq and so on05:54
pagHobbsee, thank you :)05:54
Hobbsee:)05:54
persen!cloning05:54
ubotuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate05:54
philwi don't know why05:54
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Aquilasit didn't like it05:54
hasanhow can i decrease font size of characters send to my printer from konsole???05:54
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runleveltengive me j00r address pleas! _sigh_ You would have though step one in developing those 1337 /\/\/\|) 5|<1Llz would have been getting his/her around the "ping" command.05:55
runlevelten*his/her head05:55
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BluesKaj!automate05:56
ubotuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning05:56
Aquilashttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30346/05:56
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pagAquilas, yup. just what I thought.. try only the latter command  ( sudo dpkg -P adobereader-enu )05:57
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Aquilashttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30347/05:58
pagAquilas, now try: sudo apt-get install -f05:59
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Aquilashttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30348/06:00
pagAquilas, congratulations. now you have the working dpkg again :)06:01
AquilasGreat!!!   Thanks Pag06:01
pagAquilas, sudo apt-get upgrade would probably be quite nice command to run now  (no need to paste the output, it should go well)06:01
stephenpag: how do you install realplayer in kubuntu?06:02
genii!helpersnack | pag06:03
ubotupag: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!06:03
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pagstephen, from the packages ;)  Since your next queston will be "Where can I get those packages" I'll answer it now: Not in any of those repos I have06:03
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paggenii, wow! didn't know about that factoid. Thank you :D06:04
amundsenhi06:04
pagamundsen, hello :)06:04
SlimeyPete!helpersnack | SlimeyPete06:04
SlimeyPetedamn06:04
SlimeyPeteit's too clever for me06:04
jd_just got done with the radio show06:04
amundsendoes anybody know what's goin on with 7.04 update? i get  errors from apt-get upgrade06:04
AquilasThanks again Pag... it is working.06:04
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pagamundsen, what kind of errors?  (use pastebin to paste them, please)06:05
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geniipag :)06:06
amundsenpag: pastebin? what's that?06:06
pag!paste | amundsen06:07
ubotuamundsen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:07
amundsenpag: done06:08
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amundsenhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30349/06:08
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pagamundsen, clearly not the whole output... you can gett all the output to a file by commanding: sudo apt-get upgrade > file06:10
amundsenpag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30350/06:11
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amundsenpag: problem seems to be with ttf-opensymbol06:12
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pagamundsen, yup.06:12
amundsenany solution ?06:12
pagamundsen, I can only help by providing couple of links: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist%40lists.debian.org/msg266900.html  and  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36984106:14
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BlueLagunaHow can I install compiz without installing gnome?06:15
sparrwIs there a way to make konqueror automatically open sftp://*.php in kate, without affecting its handling of http://*.php ?06:16
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pagBlueLaguna, Compiz has some Gnome depencies, so it's pertty hard (and really not adviseable) to bypass those.06:17
BlueLaguna:-/06:17
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sparrwBlueLaguna: is your hard drive so small that you cant have gnome installed?06:20
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BlueLagunasparrw: it seems redundant to me to have both window managers installed06:20
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sparrwBlueLaguna: i have over a dozen installed06:21
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pagBlueLaguna, err.. iirc compiz does pull some gnome libraries, but not the whole DE06:21
sparrwpag: depending on gnome libraries isnt really a good excuse for "depending" on gnome06:21
BlueLagunapag: you're right, thanks06:24
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pagnp :)06:24
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vishamhi folks06:26
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vishamhow to change the default console font ?06:27
vishamor how to enable console-setup to run at boot time06:27
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pagvisham, do you mean those that appear on ctrl-alt-fX ?06:28
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vishamya thats right06:29
nixternalyou change those in /boot/grub/menu.lst iirc06:29
nixternalvga=such and so06:30
pagvisham, that's pretty strange solution; stick that command to change fonts in your .bashrc06:30
vishami want my font to be changed before i login06:30
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redhacould anybody help me on Beryl with Kubuntu06:30
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vishamduring the boot up process06:31
pagredha, official support channel for beryl/compiz  is #ubuntu-effects06:31
nixternalthere is a trick to setting them right...you boot with an alternate CD, go in to the setup a bit, hit escape and go to a command line..then you run some tool or something..there is a howto I think somewhere in the forums visham06:31
redhaI have it installed and all, but there are some quirks here and there06:31
redhaand besides no body is on there helping06:32
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pagredha, you can of course ask your questions here... I just think it might be harder to get answers here... but ask ahead if you want06:33
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vishamany direct help nixternal06:34
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nixternalI can't remember it off hand, so I am affraid I may be useless at this time06:35
redhasome windows (alerts) have nothing in them, plus sometimes adept icon on the taskbar pops out and becomes on the top of the screen :S06:35
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aaroncampbellHas anyone had a problem with kpdf trying to print duplex even if it's not set in the printer dialog?  I can't seem to print from kpdf because my printer keeps saying it doesn't have the duplex attachment.  However, I can open PDFs in kghostview and print just fine06:36
jhutchinsvisham: What do you want to change about your font?06:36
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vishamthanks folks06:37
nixternalredha: the adept thing is Beryl's fault of course, the same thing happens with compiz...nothing you can do about that one except get rid of adept alert06:39
redhaIt just bugs me how Beryl doesn't like KDE..it runs flawlessly on Gnome :S06:40
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vishamhi folks again06:46
vishamhow do i change the permisions in the fstab file for windows partitions that are mounted such that only root can write & read  but all others can only read06:47
vishamsorry if my english is poor06:47
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aleksanteriwhat package has libdl?06:47
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BluesKajaleksanteri, check in adept06:48
aleksanteri.06:48
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vishamhow to change permission is /etc/fstab06:54
vzduch!ntfs06:54
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:54
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vzduch!ntfs-3g06:54
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:54
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visham!fuse06:56
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse06:56
caris_mereI'm having a problem with Amarok...It doesn't start up on account, but it does on my wife's account.06:56
vishamthanks folks06:56
evilmmi've never had a problem with ntfs-3606:57
OlliKHi, all!06:57
vzduchsure.. there is no such thing as ntfs-36 :)06:57
OlliKCan someone help me with upgrading? I'd like to update few packages, and I used to have this adept-updater on which I closed and can't find anymore (it's different from adept manager). Anyway, now when I plan to update all packages to newest version, I noticed that I can also probably do it in Adept Manager, but there are two options: "Safe Upgrade" and "Full Upgrade". Can someone tell me the difference? I didn't find anything from google/ubuntuforums and al06:57
evilmm3g damn06:57
OlliKI'm using Feisty so I'm not upgrading to a newer version, I only want to get the latest versions of the software06:58
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astrophoenixmy friend with a dual booting laptop was able to use ntfs-3g in ubuntu to restore a known good registry on her windows partition, enabling her to boot windows again. :) but as soon as she got that fixed, we set her win partition back to read only.06:58
OlliKAlso helpful would be if someone could help me to find a way to start this "adept updater" program06:58
caris_mereI need some help with Amarok, it won't load...though it used to work06:58
vzduchany error msg?06:58
tmskecaris_mere: does it start and then crash?06:58
pagOlliK, kdesu adept_updater06:59
caris_meretmske: no, it just get's stuck, never the icon hops around, but that's all06:59
OlliKpag: command07:00
vzduchcaris_mere: try to start amarok from commandline, should output some useful info07:00
astrophoenixOllik: hit alt-f2, run adept_notifier, that will give you a little icon in the system tray.07:00
OlliKpag: command 'adept-updater" not found.07:00
pagOlliK, notice the underline  it's _ not -07:00
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OlliKpag: Thanks, it works07:01
tmskecaris_mere: do what vzduch says and paste that info: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/07:01
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BluesKajOlliK, you are actually fortunate that adept updater is missing , it's buggy ..upgrading in adept will work just as well , but beware of spme pkges that may break due to unmet dependencies , so the sfe upgrade is your best bet07:01
BluesKajsafe upgrade07:02
caris_meretmske: ok, I did it07:02
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vzduchcaris_mere: pastebin URL please07:03
tmskecaris_mere: post the link07:03
OlliKastrophoenix: alt-f2 didn't have any effect, but when I ran the adept_notifier in "Run Command", it seemed to work07:03
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OlliKBluesKaj: Thanks for the tip07:03
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OlliKastrophoenix: Thanks also to you07:03
astrophoenixoh, alt-f2 is the default short cut to get the "Run Command" box :)07:03
pagOlliK, alt+f2 is the default shortcut to run command07:03
caris_meretmske: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30356/07:03
OlliKSo updating packages through adept updater basically does the same thing as "safe upgrade" would do?07:04
evilmmi like katapult07:05
OlliKhow about apt-get update | apt-get upgrade, is that same as safe-upgrade or full-upgrade?07:05
tmskecaris_mere: you could try to delete your amarokrc (~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc) and try again (first update it though)07:05
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OlliKAm I right if I assume that apt-get upgrade = "Safe Upgrade" in adept, and apt-get distro-upgrade = "Full upgrade" in adept?07:06
caris_meretmske: what do you mean by "first update it though"?07:06
BluesKajno safe upgrade is just that it make sure that there are no unmet dependencies that can lead to broken pkges , in case you have "unofficial repos" . the notifier ignores that and tries to upgrade everything available unless you specify in adept itself07:06
vzduchcaris_mere: doesn't help much.. I suggest you locate /home/yourWifesAccount/.kde/share/config/amarokrc and replace your /home/yourAccount/.kde/share/config/amarokrc with it07:07
tmskecaris_mere: I meant backup it first07:07
vzduchtmske: or that07:07
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tmskevzduch: yeah replacing it could work too :-)07:08
vzduchwell.. the essential difference is that deleting (or moving) it would cause Amarok to create a fresh one on next startup, copying a known-to-work one would be another option, it'd duplicate the settings07:09
OlliKDoes it matter if I'm running the program that is being upgraded, for example Firefox?07:09
TheInfinityno07:10
vzduchOlliK: normally that's no problem.. that's also the way you update your KDE or X or kernel.. only the program(s) that is/are updated need to be restarted for the update to take effect07:10
OlliKok, good..07:11
aleksanterihow can i make an Tk element span 2 grid columns?07:11
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caris_meretmske and vzduch: I replaced, now I try to run it again, right?07:12
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tmskecaris_mere: yes07:12
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aleksanteridang, wrong channel07:13
vzduch*gg*07:13
caris_meretmske: didn't do anything07:13
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tmskecaris_mere: have you changed or installed anything since amarok stopped working for you?07:14
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eduardocould someone help me installing MySQL in my Ubuntu?07:15
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Lynoureeduardo: What kind of problems are you having with it?07:16
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caris_meretmske: I don't remember installing or changing anything...I don't understand why it would work for my wife and not for me, though07:16
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Jack2142hello people im having a problem with grub.... i see the boot loader and i have the kubuntu option and the windows option(windows works fine,) but kubuntu doesnt load...the changed the SLOT the IDE cable goes into (i have 2 in my mobo) so nows its on the secondary IDE becacuse the first one ripped a few pins.. however what should i do now to get kubuntu to load?07:18
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caris_meretmske: Maybe this...one time my external hd had problems, I unplugged and replugged and it was called MYBOOK1 instead of MYBOOK, and then I listened to music...Maybe that changed some setting in amarok?07:18
tmskecaris_mere: you can also try to move your complete folder ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok and try again07:18
tmskecaris_mere: if some settings were changed, removing that folder and your amarokrc should solve the problem (be sure to backup)07:19
rrbizwhich kde version did kubuntu come with ?07:19
rrbiz7.0407:19
caris_meretmske: ok, thanks...I'll try it07:19
Jack2142what do i do in grub loader so that i point my kubuntu to the correct IDE channel please help07:20
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rrbizJack2142: u trying to make kubuntu default ?07:20
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Lynoureeduardo: Got it working already?07:21
Jack2142rrbiz yes07:21
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rrbizso u already have kubuntu installed ?07:22
vzduchI wonder why Windoze would boot up fine when changing the IDE bus the hdd is on.. to my knowledge the chainloader also points to the physical device designation07:22
vzduchrrbiz: are you reading?07:22
Jack2142yes i have it installed07:22
Jack2142but i moved the IDE cable to secondary07:22
Jack2142when i installed the IDE cable was pluggd into primary on the mobo07:22
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rrbizahh07:22
Jack2142now i moved it07:22
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Jack2142windows boots.. kubuntu doesnt07:23
jhutchins_ltJack2142: What's plugged into the primary now?07:23
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Jack2142nothing07:23
Jack2142it broke07:23
vzduchJack2142: assuming you moved from primary master to secondary master, my best bet is that what you need to change is entries like 'hd(0,x)' to 'hd(2,x)'07:23
jhutchins_ltJack2142: Windows is selecting the first bootable device then.07:23
caris_meretmske: that worked...thanks07:23
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rrbizvzduch, nah i didn't catch it all and just thought modifying menu.list would do07:23
caris_merevzduch: thanks also for your help07:23
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Jack2142well im using livecd now07:24
rrbizperhaps menu.list would be the place though07:24
Jack2142what should i do in grub07:24
vzduchJack2142: as I told you07:24
jhutchins_ltJack2142: sudo fdisk -l might give you some useful information.07:24
geniivzduch Jack2142 Yes the hd(2,x) thing. But also after you will need to change old /etc/fstab to reflect hdc or sdc instead of the hda  or sda from before07:24
vzduchgenii: yes, that too07:25
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Jack2142rrbiz07:25
Jack2142can i msg you07:25
Jack2142i will paste07:25
rrbizsure07:25
Jack2142  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System07:25
Jack2142/dev/hdd1   *           1        3321    26675901    7  HPFS/NTFS07:25
Jack2142/dev/hdd2            3322        3737     3341520    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)07:25
Jack2142/dev/hdd5            3322        3737     3341488+  83  Linux07:25
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vzduchthat's secondary slave.. so you'd put 'hd(3,x)' in the menu.lst07:26
geniihmm yes07:26
vzduchJack2142: and be sure to modify your /etc/fstab accordingly07:26
jhutchins_ltvzduch: Did you get your console font fixed?07:26
wamtyHey peoples - I'm d/ling the newest version of Pidgin to install.  Since I'm on kubuntu, I assume I have to get the source version, yes?07:26
vzduchjhutchins_lt: ?07:26
Jack2142can you walk me through it im not a linux wiz yet :/07:27
jhutchins_ltvzduch: I thought it was you who was asking about that earlier.07:27
geniilikely the old fstab entries were hdb not hda as well07:27
pagwamty, getdeb has packages for pidgin iirc.07:27
Jack2142can somoene tel me what to do step by step please?07:27
jhutchins_ltJack2142: sudo mkdir /mnt/hdd07:27
Jack2142ok07:27
jhutchins_ltJack2142: sudo mount /dev/hdd5 /mnt/hdd07:27
vzduchjhutchins_lt: no.. only thing I'd want to know about that is how to put a different console font in the init scripts to be loaded.. the one used by *buntu by default is dead ugly ;)07:27
Jack2142ok07:28
jhutchins_ltJack2142: kdesu kate /mnt/hdd/boot/grub/menu.list07:28
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jhutchins_ltJack2142: kdesu kate /mnt/hdd/etc/fstab07:28
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jhutchins_ltvzduch: I don't think there's much choice about the font, it's not like you're running a GUI there.07:29
_michaelhello I am having trouble with a demuxer error in kaffeine "xine: couldn't find demux for >" any ideas?07:29
eduardowow07:29
eduardosorry07:29
jhutchins_ltvzduch: I belive you can change size, and you can make some changes by changing the codepate, but the default console font is, I think, stored in the hardware of the card.07:29
jhutchins_ltcodepage07:29
vzduchjhutchins_lt: well no, but there _is_ a choice.. the font that'd show w/o a PCF loaded is totally different07:29
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Jack2142well jhutchins_lt i did "kdesu kate /mnt/hdd/boot/grub/menu.list" now it opened a blank text file07:30
manu_hi07:30
jhutchins_ltJack2142: Herm.07:30
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manu_someone here who knoews why kmid is not working with kubuntu?07:30
vzduchJack2142: ls -la /mnt/hdd/boot/grub/07:30
manu_i need the program and everytime i'm asking none can help :(07:30
vzduchmanu_: define 'not working'07:31
jhutchins_ltJack2142: Sorry, it's menu.lst07:31
Jack2142oh07:31
Jack2142wait07:31
Jack2142ok07:31
Jack2142menu.lst is open07:31
Jack2142what do i edit07:31
vzduchJack2142: search & replace -> 'hd(1' for 'hd(3'07:32
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rrbizwouldn't it be (hd1,1) now ?07:32
rrbizfor secondary07:32
_michaelI can still play some avi files in kaffeine but about half of them won't play07:33
Jack2142there is nothing found as hd(107:33
jhutchins_ltrbrunhuber: It's hdd.07:33
vzduchrrbiz: no, that would be primary slave07:33
Jack2142heres what i have07:33
Jack2142i will paste07:33
jhutchins_ltNO!07:33
Jack2142titleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic07:33
Jack2142root(hd0,4)07:33
Jack2142titleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic (recovery mode)07:33
Jack2142root(hd0,4)07:33
vzduchah, wrong syntax07:33
Jack2142titleMicrosoft Windows XP Professional07:33
Jack2142root(hd0,0)07:33
jhutchins_ltJack2142: Please don't paste more than a couple of lines.07:34
vzduchreplace '(hd0' w/ '(hd3'07:34
tmskeJack2142 use: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/07:34
Jack2142?07:34
Jack2142thats what is in the file,i didnt edit anything yet07:34
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KrevedKovsem preved!07:35
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jhutchins_ltKrevedKo: Gesundheit.07:35
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vzduchhrhr07:36
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rrbizJack2142: here's a good link about menu.lst info > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=131939507:36
pag!ru | KrevedKo07:36
ubotuKrevedKo:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke07:36
Jack2142ok 7 replacments made07:36
Jack2142i save and exit now?07:36
jhutchins_ltpag: Good call!  Do you speak russian?07:36
vzduchpag: you sure that was Russian?07:36
pagjhutchins_lt, yup. :)07:36
Jack2142kdesu kate /mnt/hdd/etc/fstab07:37
Jack2142should i edit that also?07:37
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pagvzduch, looked pretty much like it07:37
vzduchpag: was too short for me to recognize it beyond it being a Slavic language07:37
jhutchins_ltJack2142: Only if you want the system to know where the hard drive is once it boots.07:37
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Jack2142what do you mean jhutchins?07:37
geniiJack2142: In that file you want to replace everywhere it has hda to hdd07:38
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wamtyIt doesn't have the most recent pidgin.07:38
wamtyIt still lists it as gaim last I checked.07:38
vzduchwamty: WhereWhat?07:38
Jack2142ok i replaced 'hda' with 'hdb'07:39
wamtyHey peoples - I'm d/ling the newest version of Pidgin to install.  Since I'm on kubuntu, I assume I have to get the source version, yes?07:39
Jack2142now i will save/reboot07:39
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geniiJack2142: No, hdd not hdb07:39
wamtythats my initial question07:39
wamty<pag> wamty, getdeb has packages for pidgin iirc.07:39
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Jack2142ah yes hdd07:40
Jack2142ok now i save/reboot?07:40
geniiJack2142: hda=master, primary IDE hdb=slave,primary IDE hdc=master second IDE etc etc07:40
wamtyso?07:40
wamtyany ideas please?07:40
pagwamty, http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Pidgin07:40
geniiJack Is there some other HD on that ribbon that is master?07:41
pagwamty, if you want to compile, then you'll have to use sources07:41
geniiJack2142: ^^07:41
manu_vzduch: ok i have a working timidity server and i choose it in kmid, when i want to paly i get nothing (clicking doesnt make a visible change of kmid) and in terminal i get player could not play something with port 20:0 but timidity is receiving at 128:x07:41
wamtythanks07:42
Impy^hi does anyone here have nethack working on linux?07:42
manu_pmid and timidity are working07:42
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Jack2142ok i will reboot and say here if it succeed07:42
Jack2142thx everyone07:42
Jack2142brb07:42
pagImpy^, I'd guess it should work just fine... what problems are you experiencing?07:42
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Impy^everytime i try load it07:43
Impy^it just closes07:43
wamtypag, I don't WANT to compile..07:43
wamtyany other way?07:43
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Impy^i've installed all the nethacks off of add/remove but none of them work :(07:43
pagwamty, download from getdeb... I pasted the link just few minutes ago07:43
vzduchmanu_: ah, that goes beyond my knowledge of JACK, sorry.. I basically know how to start and stop JACK, but no idea about its ports.. tried asking in #ubuntustudio yet?07:44
jhutchins_lt!info pidgin07:44
ubotuPackage pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:44
geniijhutchins_lt: Jamming it in the reverse way when no little keying tab on it and bending over the pin where the other way there is no pin07:44
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manu_vzduch: no, should i? do i need jack for kmid?07:47
geniijhutchins_lt: I've actually seen this now quite a few times (bent/broken middle IDE pin on motherboard)07:48
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vzduchmanu_: at least I have yet to see a soundcard whose on-board MIDI sounds would play in Linux.. so you'd need JACK as the softsynths for Linux run on that07:48
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Jack2143hey guys07:50
Jack2143rrbiz:07:51
manu_vzduch: i have a realtek chip and i get midi output so i think JACK is working, but i dont have all soundfonts, some midis ply only with few ones :(07:51
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rrbizyea07:51
Jack2143when i reboot i get grub menu, any selection i make now it says ERROR 21: Selected disk does not exist07:51
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Jack2143?07:52
pagI think I know what's the prob here...07:52
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geniipag He has cable select on?07:53
Jack2143all i did was take the cable from the master, to secondary master slot on the mobo07:53
pagit's not the hd3 but hd2 probably07:53
Jack2143so i should try to replace hd3 with hd2?07:53
paggenii, didn't think that far :)07:53
Jack2143whats the command to bring up the menu.lst07:53
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geniiJack2143: So your cdrom is on the same ribbon as that hard drive?07:54
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Jack2143yeah07:55
Jack2143the CDrom is the primary, the HD is secondary07:55
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ZolarHello all07:55
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geniiThen hd3 should be right07:55
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Jack2143so why everything says disk does not exit07:55
Jack2143exist*07:55
ZolarI would like to thank those who helped me in getting Kubuntu installed.  works great07:55
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Jack2143zolar from pcr?07:56
geniiJack2143: Did you make some bios change to try and make it boot specifically from that hd?07:56
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mimicciao anna....07:56
Jack2143hmmm nop07:56
ZolarPCR?07:56
Jack2143just first boot device is CDROM- then hd07:56
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Jack2143nevermind07:56
geniiJack2143: Did you make some bios change to disable the primary IDE channel?07:56
Jack2143no07:56
geniithen in grub hd3 should be right and in fstab hdd should be right07:57
anna_hei07:57
anna_eccoti07:57
mimicsi07:57
anna_in privato non mi fa scriverti07:57
mimicsi..07:57
mimicho visto...07:57
anna_dice che mi devo registrare07:57
Jack2143isnt there soem grub auto-installed07:57
mimico che ci registramo...07:57
pag!it07:57
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:57
Jack2143so why is nothing booting07:58
Jack2143says disk does not exist07:58
geniiJack2143: I am suspecting a typo when you edited the files now.07:59
Jack2143hmm07:59
Jack2143whats the command to bring them up07:59
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vzduchhoi Kite_DH08:00
Jack2143genii: whats the command to bring up the menu.lst and fstab files08:01
Kite_DHvzduch: hoi08:01
geniiJack2143: You need to do the same process as previously, eg: sudo mkdir /mnt/hdd     then: sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd    then kdesu kate /mnt/hdd/boot/grub/menu.lst   or kdesu kate /mnt/hdd/etc/fstab08:01
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geniiJack2143: If you had /boot under some separate partition then you need to mount that one instead of hdd1 of course08:03
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jhutchins_ltThis is one of the bad things about grub, it uses different notation than the rest of the system.08:03
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jhutchins_ltIs there a way, within grub, to list available devices?08:03
michael-3142hello08:03
geniijhutchins_lt: Yes but I haven't used it for so long i dunno08:04
Jack2143genii: menu.lst is coming up empty08:04
jhutchins_ltThat's one of the tough things about bootloaders, you set 'em and forget 'em.08:04
jhutchins_ltJack2143: When you specify a file that doesn't exist, kate assumes you want to create a new one.  Mis-typing the path or filename means you've specified a file that doesn't exist.  One way to avoid this is to use tab to complete each part of the path.08:05
Jack2143well after /hdd/b there is no boot08:06
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jhutchins_ltJack2143: Tab twice to see what's available.08:06
geniiwork, AFK 2-3 mins08:07
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Jack2143nothing avialable in /mnt/hdd08:07
vzduchdid you mount it?08:07
Jack2143yes08:07
Jack2143as you said08:07
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Jack2143sudo mkdir /mnt/hdd08:07
Jack2143sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd08:07
Jack2143did those 208:08
vzduchguess that was the error.. iirc it wasn't hdd1, but hdd508:08
miles_!tftp08:08
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Jack2143so should do 'sudo mount /dev/hdd5 /mnt/hdd'08:08
Jack2143?08:08
geniiback08:08
vzduchyes, but first sudo umount /mnt/hdd08:08
geniiJack2143: Yes, my mistake on partition number there08:09
Jack2143ok now i got menu.lst open08:09
jhutchins_ltJack2143: Remember that fdisk -l listed your partitions. 1 is windows, 5 is linux.08:09
geniiIt might be informative to paste those files to pastebin so we can look for un-obvious typos08:10
Jack2143first one for ubuntu is "root(hd3,4)"08:10
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geniieg: hd(0,2) might now just be hd(3)08:10
Jack2143oh08:10
Jack2143ok08:10
kabahi! just installed Kubuntu :) since my TFT's resolution is 107 dpi all appears too small. How can I fix this plz?08:10
Jack2143what is the link again please08:10
genii!paste08:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:10
Jack2143thanks, one moment please08:11
jhutchins_ltgenii: 0,2 would be hda308:11
Jack2143http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30363/08:11
jhutchins_lthdd5 would be (3,4)08:11
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geniijhutchins_lt: I'm thinking of when he edited grub to change hd(0) instances to hd(3) instances08:11
lucahi everyone08:12
lucaI have a focus problem with compiz fusion .(08:12
Jack2143i pasted my menu.lst to pastebin, heres the link genii  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30363/08:12
lucamenus of the tray icons stay UNDER the windows, they are unfocused08:12
geniireading08:12
jhutchins_ltluca: compiz is nothing but problems.  #ubuntu-effects please.08:12
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geniimenu.lst looks OK. Did he run update grub (or similar) ?08:15
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Jack2143genii:  find anything?08:17
geniiJack2143 jhutchins_lt vxduch Would it be neccesary to run grub-update (may not be exact commandname) ? The menu.lst looks OK08:17
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oleghello08:18
Jack2143genii: do you want to see the fstab file as well?08:18
geniiJack2143: Yes please08:18
Jack2143genii: one moment please.08:18
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Jack2143genii: heres the fstab file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30364/08:19
geniiOK, reading08:19
geniiI see the issue08:20
geniiWell, issues08:20
geniiold CD was hdd. Needs to be now hdc08:20
geniialso, the uuid references need to be removed now08:21
Jack2143genii: so which line am i editing08:21
geniiJack2143: Wait and I will just make another one for you to cut/paste.08:22
Jack2143ok thanks08:22
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geniiJack2143:  Replace your fstab with paste from here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30366/08:24
sy135is there an tooltip function on ubuntu that shows filesize, exifs or a preview by coming over an fileicon?08:25
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aaroncampbellMy computer seems to accept ssh connections from my local network, but not from anything in the "outside world" ...I tried sudo iptables -L and it shows 3 empty chains, defaulted to ACCEPT.  Is there anything else that may cause the issue?08:25
Jack2143genii: ok done, now i reboot?08:25
vzduchgenii: ?08:25
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geniiJack2143: I would say yes :)08:26
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Jack2143ok i will post back :)08:26
geniivzduch: Yes?08:26
Jack2143be right back thanks for the help genii08:26
vzduch[20:18:07]  < genii> ^vzduch08:26
rbrunhuberaaroncampbell:  do you have any restrictions in sshd config?08:26
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geniivzduch Ah :)  the ^^ means to look up to previous post where I spelled your nick wrong08:26
aaroncampbellgood question...I didn't even know there was a config08:27
raymondwhat is a good command line music player08:27
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vzduchgenii: '^^' != arrows! :D08:27
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geniivzduch I got lazy, sorry LOL08:27
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Suppressorok, I have a display based question... I was running Kubuntu Dapper, and last night I started upgrading to Feisty... today, after like 10 or 12 upgrade attempts, everything seems to be working but the way it displays on my screen...08:28
Suppressormy screen is huge now... do I just install one of the nvidia drivers?08:28
rbrunhuberaaroncampbell : it is located under /etc/08:28
sy135is there an tooltip function on ubuntu that shows filesize, exifs or a preview by coming over an fileicon?08:28
fdovingraymond: i find mpd and ncmpc very good.08:28
fdovingraymond: those are package names.08:28
raymondok ill give those a try08:29
rbrunhuberaaroncampbell : what do you mean with connections from the outside?08:29
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aaroncampbellrbrunhuber: from outside my local network08:30
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aaroncampbellrbrunhuber: I looked in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config, and I don't see anything that would limit it08:30
rbrunhuberhow is your setup? has you computer two network cards? Are you connected to "outside" via a router?08:31
rbrunhuberaaroncampbell : se above08:31
fdovingaaroncampbell: what was your initial question?08:31
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geniiaaroncampbell: There are a few things not linux related which could be causing this. Mostly to do with having a router etc08:31
aaroncampbellrbrunhuber: Computer has multiple network adapters, but only one is in use.  It is connected to a linksys router, which connects to my DSL modem08:32
aaroncampbellfdoving: My computer seems to accept ssh connections from my local network, but not from anything in the "outside world" ...I tried sudo iptables -L and it shows 3 empty chains, defaulted to ACCEPT.  Is there anything else that may cause the issue?08:32
rbrunhuberaaroncampbell : and you can't get connections from clients behind the router?08:32
fdovingaaroncampbell: have a look at portforwarding on your routers configuration web-interface.08:33
aaroncampbellrbrunhuber: Correct, however...port 22 IS forwarded (tcp and udp) to this system (192.168.1.99)08:33
geniifdoving Exactly my thought08:33
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Jack2143hey genii08:34
Jack2143genii: i also get error selected disk does not exist :/08:34
fdovingaaroncampbell: if the port fortwarding is set in the router check that the modem forwards connections, some of them does restrict that.08:34
geniiJack2143 Hmm08:34
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aaroncampbellfdoving: I checked that too, it has port 22 forwarded to this computer (tcp).08:34
geniiJack2143: Please pastebin the results of the command: fdisk -l     and also blkid08:35
Jack2143ok one moment08:35
Jack2143!pastebin08:35
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Jack2143genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30368/08:36
fdovingaaroncampbell: ok, i can only tell you this is not a linux-misconfiguration if connections from the local network are accepted, it has something to do with your internet connection and/or some of the components that make that connection happen, or your ISP.08:36
geniiOK, reading08:37
aaroncampbellThanks fdoving08:37
fdovingaaroncampbell: you're welcome :)08:37
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geniiJack2143: Did you have 6.10 or 7.04 installed on it?08:38
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genii6.10 = hdX 7.04=sdX syntax08:38
geniiOK08:38
vzduchgenii: not necessarily08:39
geniiJack2143: I will make another fstab change for you to put in the proper uuid. You need to do the entire deal with mkdir /mnt/hdd   and so on now again08:39
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geniiwork, 2-3 mins08:39
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Jack2143can you repost the commands, im running a livecd and there is no logging :/08:40
invader_hello08:40
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vzduchJack2143: paper & pen ftw :D08:40
Jack2143:)08:40
Jack2143got them handy now08:40
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vzduchsudo mkdir /mnt/hdd ; sudo mount /dev/hdd5 /mnt/hdd08:41
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Jack2143ge08:42
Jack2143genii: ?08:42
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vzduchJack2143: [20:40:25]  < genii> work, 2-3 mins08:42
Jack2143ok mounted08:43
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Jack2143genii: mounted, where is the new fstab file08:43
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Jack2143vzduch: does that mean he is coming back?08:46
geniihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30371/08:46
Jack2143ah :)08:46
Jack2143one moment pleas08:46
vzduchas we speak of the devil :D08:46
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Jack2143whats the command for the fstab08:46
Jack2143so i can write it down and not keep buggering for it ;)08:46
geniiJack2143: kdesu kate /mnt/hdd/etc/fstab08:47
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geniiJack2143: I am thinking now we may also want to update grub but i need to look for the exact syntax08:48
Jack2143genii: ok i pasted/saved08:48
Jack2143grub              grub-install      grub-reboot       grub-terminfo08:48
Jack2143grub-floppy       grub-md5-crypt    grub-set-default08:48
Jack2143genii: those are commands for grub08:48
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geniiJack2143: OK, try reboot then. If not working still, we will try the update-grub way08:50
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Jack2143genii: ok rebooting now08:51
Jack2143brb08:51
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raymondhow do i point mpc at my music directory?08:53
CocytusOpenoffice/mozilla and some other defaults to US units, even though KDE is set up with norwegian units. Could this possibly be because GTK apps uses US units? Where to change this?08:53
ricerciaraymond: u hav to edit config files08:53
ricerciain /etc somewhere08:53
CocytusAlso: Local CUPS can print, and apps using CUPS directly. I cant however print from KDE apps even though the KDE apps find the printer just fine (and get status:ready)08:53
geniiGetting coffee, AFK maybe 5 mins08:54
raymondok08:54
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tmskecan somebody help me getting kubuntu mount my ntfs partition with ntfs-3g automaticly?08:54
vzduch!ntfs-3g | tmske08:54
ubotutmske: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions08:54
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tmskevzduch: problem is I have 2 external harddisks with ntfs so I don't know always where they will be and I always want them mounted to the same place08:56
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BluesKajhmm Discovery Broadband channel doesn't support Linux ...booo, some and they pretend to be uptodate techtypes , what a joke !08:57
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MaTiAzNowadays being up to date means supporting Vista08:57
miles_does anyone here love iptables?08:58
PhinnFortYEAH!08:58
Jack2143genii: also same error. selected disk does not exist08:58
PhinnFort<3 iptables <308:58
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miles_a fresh ubuntu install has the iptables locked down correct?08:58
BluesKajBBC is knuckling under to MS as well their Iplayer is the ms mediaplayer in disguise08:58
miles_meaning everything is blocked08:59
Jack2143genii: also same error. selected disk does not exist08:59
Jack2143ahh sorry to repeat08:59
ricerciai h8 the BBC08:59
PhinnFortmiles_: I don't think it has any iptabless rules by deffault08:59
PhinnFort!iptables08:59
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geniiBack08:59
PhinnFortBBC is foolish08:59
PhinnFortbut I like Little Britain08:59
miles_see, i typed iptables -L, and it seemd like it didnt have any rules, i thought i read somewhere that ubuntu came locked down as default08:59
ricerciai have to pay my license fee for their propaganda08:59
geniiJack2143: OK, then from kosole issue:  sudo update-grub08:59
PhinnFortmiles_: no need to lock down09:00
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geniiJack2143: Sorry, not yet09:00
PhinnFortmiles_: there's nothing to hide09:00
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geniiJack2143: First, need to do the mkdir /mnt/hdd   and so on, mount it. THEN sudo update-grub09:00
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Jack2143ok one moment09:00
MaTiAzBTW, how to force a resolution to an external screen? My TV resolution is 1360x768 but the laptop outputs only 1024x768 in Linux09:01
PhinnFort!xorg.conf09:01
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MaTiAzPhinnFort: Thanks :)09:01
PhinnFortyw;)09:01
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Jack2143hey genii09:03
Jack2143Searching for GRUB installation directory ...09:03
Jack2143No GRUB directory found.09:03
Jack2143 To create a template run 'mkdir /boot/grub' first.09:03
Jack2143 To install grub, install it manually or try the 'grub-install' command.09:03
Jack2143 ### Warning, grub-install is used to change your MBR. ###09:03
geniiJack2143: Hopefully update-grub will correct any weirdness in the mbr09:03
Jack2143i get an eror genii look up09:03
Jack2143no GRUB directory found09:03
Jack2143ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/hdd09:04
Jack2143ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdd5 /mnt/hdd09:04
geniiJack2143: Is the hdd5 mounted under /mnt/hdd  ?09:04
Jack2143genii: and i mounted as you said09:04
geniiOK, let me think then09:04
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PhinnFort!paste09:04
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vzducheither you need to indicate to Grub that /mnt/hdd5 == /, or use chroot09:04
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Jack2143how?09:04
vzduchmy guess09:04
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geniiJack2143: Yes, chroot as vzduch says09:05
Jack2143how do i do that09:05
Jack2143im really new to this :)09:05
geniiNo syntax in update-grub man page for directory specifying :(09:05
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vzduchgenii: kopt=root=/dev/hdd5 maybe?09:06
vzduchsee man update-grub09:06
Jack2143ok i did that, now what?09:06
geniiJack2143: issue:  sudo chroot /mnt/hdd    then you can do again the sudo update-grub09:06
Jack2143ok seems to have updated09:07
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Jack2143genii: should i paste the output?09:07
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geniiJack2143: ok.So: exit09:07
Jack2143ok now i reboot?09:08
rolandhi09:08
geniiIf no errors, then paste un needed09:08
geniiJack2143: Yes. the menu.lst and fstab you have already now should be good if the grub is fixed09:08
Jack2143ok i will reboot09:08
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Jack2143genii: i will reboot and post back results, BRB09:09
Jack2143brb09:09
vzduchgenii: from man update-grub:09:09
vzduch       These are the options passed to the linux kernel:09:09
vzduch       # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro09:09
vzduch       Everything after "kopt=" is passed to the kernel as parameters. See bootparam(7) for more information.09:09
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vzduchor would that be for building a menu.lst entry?09:10
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geniivzduch Yeah that would be the menu.lst default I believe09:11
arunDoes anyone here know a lot about wikis?09:11
vzduch!anyone09:11
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:11
geniivzduch: Tho it's not often I use those commands so not totally certain09:11
CocytusKDEPrint does not work.. jobs seems to be spooled in /tmp/kde-username/xxxxxx, but CUPS doesnt seem to get the job at all.09:12
vzduchneither do I :)09:12
geniiCocytus: Remove spooling and print raw or direct09:12
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arunvzduch: I just saw a wiki and wanted to know whether it is running on an open source wiki, or a proprietary one09:12
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vzducharun: should be indicated somewhere there09:12
arunvzduch: it's not09:13
vzduchif not they're probably violating publication laws09:13
arunwhich is why i'm asking09:13
geniiarun Look at the page source code09:13
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vzduchgoing to the window, for a change, to have a smoke.. brb09:15
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Jack2143genii: still same problem.... selected disk does not exist :(09:16
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Cocytusgenii: uh.. where do I do that? You mean dont print through cups directly?09:16
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aruni think it's proprietary, thanks anyway09:17
Jack2143genii: ?09:17
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Jack2143genii?09:19
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vzduch!patience | Jack214309:19
ubotuJack2143: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:19
Jack2143oh ok09:20
Jack2143i wait then :)09:20
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geniiBack09:20
Jack2143ok09:21
Jack2143so still same error genii09:21
Jack2143selected disk does not exist09:21
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geniiJack2143: I'm pretty much out of ideas then. Other than just experimenting in the menu.lst with perhaps hd(2  instead of hd(309:22
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vzduchmake that '(hd2 instead of (hd3' :)09:22
Jack2143genii: in fdisk -l i see "/dev/hdd5            3322        3737     3341488+  83  Linux"09:23
Jack2143so shouldn't it be hd5?09:23
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geniivzduch: Yes, you're right :) I forget from commandline hd(x,x) to conf file (hdx,x)09:23
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Jack2143so what should i change ?09:24
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geniiJack2143: nO. gRUB IS DIFFERENT DISK LABELLING, FROM BIOS NUMBERS. sO MASTER,ide1 IS HD0 THEN HD1 SECONDARY IS HD2 THEN HD309:24
geniiArg capslock09:24
persenwhats the port numbers used for sshd and free nx? Just so i can open it up in my router09:25
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geniiAnyhow, grub hd0 = hda hd1=hdb and so on09:25
vzduchpersen: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers09:25
jonnylinuxnerdssh port 2209:25
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geniiJack2143: Well, could try grub-install. this is what i would consider a last resort tho before just a clean install09:26
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geniiJack2143: It needs to be done same way as when we did chroot09:27
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Jack2143sudo grub-install09:28
Jack2143install_device not specified.09:28
Jack2143oh09:28
Jack2143whats chroot command09:28
geniiJack2143: eg: the entire mkdir /mnt/hdd thing, then: sudo chroot /mnt/hdd   then: grub-install /dev/hdd09:28
Jack2143first i mount the drives09:28
Jack2143ok one moment pleasre09:28
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Jack2143grub-install /dev/hdd09:29
Jack2143/dev/hdd: Not found or not a block device.09:29
rrbizso which kde version is the latest stable release ?09:29
geniiJack2143: Ah OK. no dev entry in chrooted environment :) type: exit09:30
shadowhywindhay all, i am trying to resize my linux partition, with 5 gigs of unpartitioned space directly infront of it, and a livecd of qtparted wont do it it sees everything, but wont let me resize09:30
evilmmrrbiz: 3.5.609:30
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Jack2143ok i type exit09:30
Jack2143now what09:30
geniiJack2143: 1 minute, need to look up syntax from different drive booted09:30
Jack2143ok09:31
rrbizevilmm: ok tks, thats what i have now, thought mebbe 3.5.7 was09:31
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evilmmrrbiz: well, wikipedia lists 3.5.7 so09:31
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geniiJack2143: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hdd /dev/hdd09:32
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evilmm3.5.7 looks like just an addition to translations09:32
Jack2143sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hdd /dev/hdd09:33
Jack2143/dev/hdd does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.09:33
genii!09:33
Jack2143cant i just use 'grub'09:33
Jack2143to bring up the grub shell..09:33
geniino09:33
Jack2143oh09:33
purpleposeidonis there a way to ssh into a computer, and `export DISPLAY=hostname:0` and run X programs off that computer?09:33
Jack2143so am i hosed genii?09:34
geniiJack2143: please pastebin what:  ls -l /dev/hd*    produces09:34
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Jack2143!paste09:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:35
geniiJack2143: My current suspicion is that your bios stops looking for any hard drives if it does not find one on the IDE0 channel09:35
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Jack2143http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30376/09:35
geniireading09:35
yeniklasorMy usb flash memory didn't mount automaticly. How can I mount it?09:35
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Jack2143no genii my bios all it has about ide is one setting like Which to boot first, cdrom/hd/floppy09:36
Jack2143other than that no09:36
rrbizevilmm: so from 3.5.6 to 3.5.7 is no biggie ?09:36
geniiJack2143: OK, the right entries are there in /dev. So linux knows about the drives. But it looks like your bios does not09:37
evilmmrrbiz: i dont think so09:37
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Jack2143well my bios doesnt have any settings of what ur speakin about09:38
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rrbizok cool09:38
Jack2143all it has is like which device to boot from first, and i have CDROM (so i can boot form my livecd)09:38
vzduchevilmm, rrbiz: if you mean KDE, the upgrade goes w/o problems09:38
geniiJack2143: Maybe try this. Reboot, go into bios. Put all hd settings to "auto" so it tries to autodetect on both IDE09:38
Jack2143it IS on auto09:38
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geniiJack2143: Maybe the first 2 say "not installed" ?09:39
Jack2143what?09:39
Jack2143the error says on ALL of them (kubuntu, safemode kubuntu, memtest86, windows XP) ... selected disk does not exist09:39
rrbizvzduch: just wondering if it's worth upgrading from 356 to 35709:39
geniiJack2143: Yes, that is software. I am speaking of how the computer hardware bios sees the drives which are connected or not and then reports them to the software so it knows where to look in grub for instance for hd0 or hd1 etc etc09:40
yeniklasorMy usb flash memory didn't mount automaticly. How can I mount it?09:40
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Jack2143nop i have no options like that...09:40
shadowhywinddoes anyone know how to resize a ext3 partition09:40
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Jack2143i have both my cdrom and hd on AUTO in bios09:41
geniiJack2143: OK let me think a minute. there may be some kernel option at boot to use a different way for seeing the HD hardware/disk numbers09:41
Jack2143genii: how do i unmount the drives i mounted09:43
geniiJack2143: On livecd I am not sure how to insert boot options before load09:43
geniiJack   sudo umount /mnt/hdd09:44
Jack2143so tell me i will write them down and do them when grub boots up09:44
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geniiJack2143: I would try the option:    pci=routeirq09:44
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Cocytusgenii: How do i use raw printing? (You said earliser that my "kdeprint does not seem to add print jobs to the cups system" problem might be solved if I didn't use spooling, raw printing)09:45
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geniiCocytus: In printer config area09:47
geniiwork, afk09:47
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geniiback. Let me look where exactly for print settings. brb09:49
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amundsenhi09:49
amundsenwhich is the package that i should install in a ubuntu server machine to look like kubuntu ?09:50
frenrisis there anyway to graphically mount a partition, or do I have to go back to the CLI?09:50
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fdovingamundsen: kubuntu-desktop09:50
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sparrwIs there a way to make konqueror automatically open sftp://*.php in kate, without affecting its handling of http://*.php ?09:51
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geniiComputerCocytus: System Settings > Computer Administration area.. Printers > choose printer, go to Properties. Should be there somewhere09:51
geniiComputerBleh09:51
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geniiCocytus: System Settings > Computer Administration area.. Printers > choose printer, go to Properties. Should be there somewhere09:52
geniiSorry for dbl post09:52
hasanhi guys09:52
hasani ve got question09:52
hasani use bash shell and in vi mode09:52
hasanbut i want to clear screen whenever i press ctrl +l button09:53
hasanlike in emacs mode09:53
hasanhow can i assign that ?09:53
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vzduch!enter | hasan09:54
ubotuhasan: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:54
fdovingsparrw: yes, just assign kate to the filetype. as for local filemanagement files. websites are not affected as that is a webserver thing.09:54
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sparrwfdoving: if only.09:54
hasani dont use enter key in fact i use ctrl+j09:55
hasan;)09:55
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sparrwfdoving: try that, then visit a php page09:55
sparrwthe html will load in kate09:55
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mbaydounis anyone here access superpass (realplayer) content from ubuntu?09:56
fdovingsparrw: i did, works nicely.09:56
sparrwfdoving: very weird.  i did too, and now php on the web opens in kate  :(09:56
fdovingsparrw: then try view -> viewmode -> khtml in konqueror.09:56
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sparrwi dont have that, what version of kde?09:57
sparrwim using 3.5.609:57
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WalterCoolhi there... someone know how fix a corrupted ext2fs partition?09:57
frenrisis there anyway to graphically mount a partition, or do I have to go back to the CLI? Or how would I mount an ext3 partition of hda3 to /media/ (the manpage is confusing)?09:58
fdovingsparrw: 3.5.6 too, i might have hacked the menus.09:58
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vzduchfrenris: sudo mount -t ext3 -o defaults /dev/hda3 /media09:58
Cocytusgenii: thanks, but did not solve the problem :/09:59
sparrwfdoving: once you do that, then it will load non-http in the file association and http in the browser09:59
sparrw?09:59
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fdovingsparrw: i didn't have to do it.09:59
fdovingsparrw: it just works for me after selecting kate as the editor for .php files.09:59
vzduchWalterCool: umount the partition, then 'fsck -C /dev/insertDeviceNodeHere'10:00
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sparrwfdoving: :(10:00
geniiCocytus: Did you try some test page after changing it to raw/direct ?10:00
WalterCoollets me try...10:00
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frenrisvzduch: ty, I have discovered that I have not borked my data like I did my edgy install (feisty upgrade)10:02
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frenrisquestion: what is the command to check a drive for errors? it is something like e2fks. My windows partition is currently unable to read my ext3 ones.10:03
geniiCocytus: The previous jobs which got sent will not print off, but if you send a new print job it should go10:03
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geniiCocytus: You should also be able to clear out any printing queue from that same area of printer config in System settings10:04
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vzduchfrenris: do you have Ext2 drivers installed in Windows?10:04
geniiIn Jobs section10:04
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vzduchfrenris: for checking -> 'sudo umount /dev/hda3', 'sudo fsck -C /dev/hda3' (assuming it's hda3 you want to check)10:06
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frenrisvzduch: yes, they are the ext2 drivers10:07
frenrisare there any ext3 drivers for windows?10:07
geniifs-driver.org10:07
vzduchfrenris: I've heard there are, but they are said to be cr*p10:08
vzduchfrenris: the Ext2 drivers available normally have no problem reading/writing Ext310:08
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fdovinghasan: did you figure out the ctrl-l thing yet?10:08
geniivzduch I dunno :) fs-driver.org ext driver has been good for me10:08
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hasannope10:09
hasanfdoving: nope  i havent10:09
evilmmhmmm after i install beryl and beryl-manager...the mamger wont run10:09
evilmmjust times out10:09
jonodoes anyone know how to get 3 taskbars in KDE?10:09
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vzduch3? o010:09
jonoi have 3 screens10:09
fdovinghasan: ok put 'Control-l: clear-screen' in your ~/.inputrc file and restart bash.10:10
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jonoi want one for each screen10:10
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frenrisvzduch: after the botched upgrade to feisty making my edgy partition unbootable, my windows partition is unable to mount either my ext3 system or data partitions10:11
fdovinghasan: for more info on the topic 'man readline' you can customize that to the moon  and back :)10:11
frenrisalthough my dapper partition is able to mount and read my data one10:11
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hasanbut it does not clear screen completely10:11
hasanin emacs it clear screen and also line too10:12
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fdovinghasan: the commandprompt will remain, it always does.10:12
frenrisvzduch: do the ext2 drivers need to be "turned on" or anything after start up? Or they naturally part of the kernel after?10:12
raymondcan i copy files via ssh?10:13
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conorkirkpatrickIs there anyway that I can change the resolution that my screensaver runs at?10:13
teryancedoes anyone know how to install avant window lancher10:13
conorkirkpatrickraymond: scopy10:13
frenrisfsck finished with no errors10:13
teryanceim a newbe10:13
hasanfdoving : ok thx10:14
vzduchfrenris: depends on which you have.. installation instructions should be available where you got them from10:14
raymond*scopy10:14
raymond!scopy10:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scopy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:14
teryanceand i need help getting my desktop lookinggood10:14
vzduchwhat's scopy?10:14
raymondconorkirkpatrick: what is scopy10:15
raymondnever heard of it10:15
vzduchteryance: try http://kde-look.org/10:15
conorkirkpatrickraymond: It is a command, it should come standard with every *nix distro10:15
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teryanceok10:15
conorkirkpatrickraymond: It will let you copy things over the network10:15
vzduchconorkirkpatrick: could it be you mean scp?10:16
conorkirkpatrickvzduch: oh, my bas, it is scp :D10:16
raymondoh10:16
conorkirkpatrickraymond: It is scp, not scopy10:16
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teryancewell how would i install these10:16
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vzduchnever used it myself though, just know that it exists10:17
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geniijono: I'm pretty sure you can just rightclick on the bar, go New Panel. then move that to whatever screen you want it on10:17
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geniiexternal taskbar10:18
=== genii hums scopy scopy doo where are you
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jonogenii: you're right you can load an external taskbar...but after one is loaded the option is greyed out and i need two extra ones10:19
liedhello10:19
liedhow to install vmware.rpm? there is a tool called alied, but i dont know how to use it10:19
hasanis there a way to sync motorolo mpx 220 with kubuntu?10:19
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vzduchlied: why install a VMware rpm?10:20
[GuS] people... is have some weird visual issued with latest update of qt4 in qt4 apps10:20
[GuS] since today10:20
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geniijono I'll google around to see if there is some .kde setting for taskbar limits10:20
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liedvzduch: to have an .deb file. so i can easly uninstall it when i need it anymore10:20
[GuS] example, qt4-designer works to bad... many visual/graphics defects10:20
[GuS] and with other apps that uses qt4 as well10:20
jonogenii: thats what i was trying to do but didn't find anything yet10:20
vzduchlied: vmware is available as an *buntu pkg in the repos10:21
vzduchat least vmware-server is10:21
liedvzduch: hm i only see the vware player10:21
liedi need workstation ...10:21
birdy__hallo10:21
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vzduchthe workstation is buyware10:21
liedand?10:21
vzduchbuy it & ask them if they have a deb :)10:21
birdy__na wie isses bei euch denn so?10:21
vzduch!de | birdy__10:22
ubotubirdy__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:22
liedvzduch: i have a 30days trial version ...10:22
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birdy__wird hier denn kein deutsch gesprochen?10:22
liedbirdy__: nein, ist ein englischer channel10:22
vzduchbirdy__: nein, dieser Kanal ist English-only10:22
liedhm can i install a rpm file with alien or not?10:22
geniijono Is it greyed out when you rightclick on the newly-created panel?10:22
vzduch'course you can10:23
birdy__ah! alright, sorry, i just stop thinking for 5 minutes...10:23
liedif yes, can someone help or do i have to read man files for hours ...10:23
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birdy__merci @ lied & vzduch10:23
vzduchnever used it myself.. or else it's been 4 years since.. but should be a no-brainer10:23
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jonogenii: the newly created external taskbar does not have a big menu...it has the option to remove and configure10:23
geniijono Yes, I'm experimenting with it now actually10:24
liedoh :)10:24
liedthis is easy i think10:24
liedalied -d foobar.rpm10:24
lied:)10:24
vzduchhehe10:25
liedi hope it work so ;)10:25
vzduchs/alied/alien/10:25
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liedvzduch: alias alied="alien" :D10:25
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teryancevzduch how do i install these10:26
liedgr school sucks. there where no exams during the whole year but tomorrow the *peep* has to write 2 exams on one day10:27
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vzduchteryance: install what?10:28
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vzduchs/what/what exactly/10:28
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teryancethe app lancher10:29
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herovzduch: looks like you have a couple extra fingers :)10:29
vzduchhero: ?10:30
herojust watching all the typos - teasing10:30
milesteehee u silly10:30
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vzduchwhat typos?10:30
heroah, nevermind.10:30
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teryancei need to know where to get a app lancher and install it10:34
teryanceand how to install it10:34
vzduchwhat's an app launcher?10:34
teryancelike avant windows lancher10:35
vzduchnever heard of10:35
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teryanceits like the tool bar on the mac os10:35
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teryanceat the bottom of the screen10:36
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vzduchin MacOS I only know such a thing on one side of the screen.. and I heard a name the other day but can't remember10:37
geniitesting something, brb10:37
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teryanceu can run ur mouse over it and all the icons are there to lanch10:38
teryanceapps10:38
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teryancelol10:39
teryanceok well what do u have set up10:39
teryanceon ur desktop10:39
vzduchthe standard KDE menu10:39
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teryanceok whats the easy way of installing something i just downloaded10:43
McBeehello... how can i change the tag of a file m4a? (sorry for my english :P )10:43
vzduchteryance: the easiest way is not to download anything in the first place.. check if it's in the repos, if it is you don't need anything else10:44
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teryancewhats the repos10:44
teryanceim sorry im a newbe10:45
vzduch!repos10:45
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:45
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jonogenii: no luck so far?10:46
vzduchjono: [22:38:41]  -!- genii [n=user@host6411912762.biz.tor.fcibroadband.com]  has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:47
jonovzduch: i guess i would have been waiting for a while...thanks10:48
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alejandro_Hi, I have installed Kubuntu, and I would like to know if I can use a Fedora/Mandriva/Suse program pack on Ubuntu, i don't know how to install Avermedia DVB-T program10:57
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hasanhow can assign ctrl+p to go 1 in command history and ctrl+n to go down iin command history in .inputrc?10:59
hasanwhat should i written there?10:59
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evilmmalejandro_: what is it..an rpm?10:59
frax#kubuntu-it11:00
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milesis there a certain ftp server you guys prefer?11:00
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milesall i know is proftpd11:01
fdovinghasan: Control-p: previous-history, Control-n: next-history11:01
alejandro_joder, tanta gente y nadie quiere echar un cable?11:01
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fdovingmiles: prefer not to use ftp at all, something encrypted is nice, like sftp.11:01
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fdovingmiles: proftpd with some ssl/tls magic maybe.11:02
vzduch!es | alejandro_11:02
ubotualejandro_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:02
fdovingmiles: but installing ssh is easier than mesing around with proftpd to get tls/ssl to work.11:02
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milesi got openssh-server, i got a samba share set up, i got people to use samba inside the network firewall, if they want to access it outside the firewall, i wanted to set up a ftp server so they could put files on the share or take files from the share11:07
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ryjinhey folks11:09
milesand these are all windows heads so they dont even know what ssh is11:09
litwellhello11:09
ryjinDo you know where i can get a mp3 decoder?11:09
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vzduch!mp3 | ryjin11:09
uboturyjin: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:09
vzduchmiles: give them PuTTY & some instructions :>11:09
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mileshahaha.....11:10
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mileso well, thanks for your guys input11:10
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hasanjoin #kubuntu-es11:11
litwellhow can I change the "LANGUAGE" setting for locale?11:11
ryjinWhats the pass for sudO?11:11
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litwell I have set en_GB.UTF-8 with dpkg-reconfigure localeconf but it doesnt change LANGUAGE...11:11
ryjineverytime i try to use sudo it's awlays asking me for a password11:12
vzduchryjin: that's what it's supposed to11:12
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vzduch!sudo11:13
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:13
AllysanThe pass is whatever password you entered when you installed11:13
litwellryjin: it's your login password11:13
ryjinohh. thank you11:13
Allysanits meant to do that so non-root users can't make system changes11:13
liedhm how can i activate beryl?11:14
liedi thouht there is a menu in the kmenu...11:14
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litwellany hint on how to set up "LANGUAGE" in locale environment?11:15
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fadeyhi,everyone.11:19
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fadeydoes anyone know what does "rc" in dpkg -l output means?11:20
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ryjinWhat does Autio output unavialble; the device is busy mean?11:21
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ryjinaudio*11:21
vzduchit means what it says11:22
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ryjinHow can I solve the problem?11:23
vzduchquit the program that is currently using the sound device11:23
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braulio_hi11:30
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WhtWolfTeraDyneTwo desktops, one with a virus, and one that "might" have one. I've got to check them both out...11:30
ryjinThe music is still not playing11:31
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ryjinAnyone can help me?11:34
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BluesKajryjin, do you have your system settings/sound system all setup, kmix ctrls enabled and turned on11:36
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ryjinyes11:36
BluesKajWhtWolfTeraDyne, one pc is windows I assume11:37
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vzduchtwo PCs are Windows, I assume :>11:37
BluesKajryjin, are you using alsa and amarok?11:37
ryjinamarok11:38
BluesKajdo you have alsamixer setup ?11:38
ryjinI don't thnk so11:38
WhtWolfTeraDyneYup. both are 3-4 yrs old, and Windows. Thankfully they're not mine.11:39
AllysanTry going into Konsole and typing alsamixer11:39
Allysanthen tab around until you see a bar with MM at the bottom11:39
Allysanpress M when that bar is highlighted to unmute it11:40
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Allysanthen press the up key to turn it up11:40
BluesKajryjin, system settings / sound system/ hardware /select the audio device/ choose: advanced linux sound architecture11:40
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BluesKajWhtWolfTeraDyne, wife's pc is windows , 8yrs old but she uses it for email some research on the net and pretty good solitaire..mostly :)11:42
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vzduchBluesKaj: nothing she couldn't do on Linux :)11:42
BluesKajwell ,pretty good soltaire is her fav game and  the pc behind a router and AV installed and she pretty net savy11:44
WhtWolfTeraDyneBluesKaj: The owner of these two is blind. She uses the JAWS screen reader. The latest one outdoes Orca and Fesitval combined.11:44
fadeyhi,all. I can't install vim-full (package versions don't match http://pastebin.com/m5ee3269b ). Could anyone help?11:45
BluesKajdon't want to make wifey run wine on linux ...it's her pc , windows "works for her "  :)11:45
ryjinBlue I tried that but the media player keeps freezing11:46
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AllysanAhhh Windows "worked" for me too11:46
vzduch<-- going to bed, gotta get up ridiculously early tomorrow..11:46
vzduchnight :)11:46
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Ryarensby can help me in wine?11:47
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BluesKajryjin, amarok is freezing ?11:49
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ryjinYes11:49
BluesKajdoes it play at all or just won't open11:49
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ryjinit opens11:49
ryjinthen when I click to find audio cd11:50
ryjinit freezes11:50
ryjinright now11:50
ryjinit's frozen11:50
BluesKajryjin, do you have any music on your HDD , if so try that pls11:50
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ryjinnone that I know of11:51
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ryjinkaffeine also freezes11:51
ryjindang this is frustrating11:52
BluesKajok have yo recently upgraded you dektop or OS ?11:52
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BluesKajerr desktop11:52
ryjinYes, when I first installed it yesterday11:52
BluesKajyou upgraded from edgy ?11:52
ryjinEdgy?11:53
BluesKajkubuntu edgy11:53
sfireryjin: did you run the memtest?11:53
BluesKajwhat did you install ?11:53
ryjinno11:53
ryjinI installed Kubuntu11:53
ryjinfrom a live cd11:54
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BluesKajso you updated using adept notifier, after installation?11:54
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ryjinYes11:55
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geniiWow, a lot quieter than an hour ago11:57
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ryjinMp3 Audio Decoder plugin not found.11:59
ryjinK3b could not load or find the Mp3 decoder plugin. This means that you will not be able to create Audio CDs from Mp3 files. Many Linux distributions do not include Mp3 support for legal reasons.11:59
ryjinSolution: To enable Mp3 support, please install the MAD Mp3 decoding library as well as the K3b MAD Mp3 decoder plugin (the latter may already be installed but not functional due to the missing libmad). Some distributions allow installation of Mp3 support via an online update tool (i.e. SuSE's YOU).11:59
ryjinthats what it tells me11:59
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BluesKajok, ryjin try this in the konsole: sudo dpkg --configure -a12:00
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BluesKaj!mp312:00
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:00
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ryjinand those links didn't help12:01
ryjinkk i put those in the console12:02
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BluesKajryjin, also i think you might try reinstalling amarok with adept ..uninstall , do a 'sudo apt-get update' in the konsole , then install it again12:02
jhutchinsUse purge12:03
jhutchinsOh- wait.12:03
BluesKajyes jhutchins agreed ..12:03
jhutchinsryjin: Just remove .xine12:03
ryjin.xine?12:03
jhutchins~/.xine12:03
BluesKajok dinnertime for me ...BBL12:03
jhutchinsKnown mode of failure.12:03
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ryjinwhere is .xine located?12:04
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COONiAsalut la room.12:06
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WhtWolfTeraDyneI know this isn't really for hardware. However I need some advice...12:06
jhutchins~/.xine12:07
WhtWolfTeraDyneI've got a CD\DVD burned in my desktop that pretty much refuses to eject most of the time. Is there any way to clean it, or should I just use my external burner, backup, and take it back to BestBuy and have them fix it?12:08
WhtWolfTeraDyneburner*12:08
ryjinOk I got rid of it12:08
jhutchinsWhtWolfTeraDyne: Blow it out with compressed (canned) air or take it back if it's <1yr old (and in warantee).12:08
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WhtWolfTeraDyne!fr | COONiA12:09
ubotuCOONiA: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:09
WhtWolfTeraDynejhutchins: It's more than 1 year old, but we got the 3 year extended one with it.12:09
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WhtWolfTeraDyneI'll try the compressed air, first, though.12:09
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WhtWolfTeraDyneThankfully, if things go my way, I'll be giving it to my uncle soon, and getting me a dellbuntu machine.12:10
jhutchinsA three year warantee on a DVD... oookay.12:10
geniiWhtWolfTeraDyne: I find the curtain attachment for vacuum works well too. I steer away now from compressed air, it jams little things under surfacemount chips12:10
WhtWolfTeraDynejhutchins: the machine, not just the burner12:10
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WhtWolfTeraDynegenii: thanks for the warning, but I don't have a vacuum with a hose. Just a little Dirt Devil.12:11
jhutchinsWhtWolfTeraDyne: Well, that makes more sense.  Do some googling on the web and read up on extended warantees before you buy another one though, you may want to skip it.12:11
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jhutchinsWhtWolfTeraDyne: MAKE BAKUPS BEFORE YOU TAKE IT IN!!!12:11
WhtWolfTeraDynejhutchins: I always make backups. As for warantees, next computer will be a dellbuntu machine, so...12:12
WhtWolfTeraDyneI'll look into it...12:12
ryjinOk, the sound is up and working12:13
ryjinthat's one problem out a handful12:13
COONiAok sorry12:13
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ryjinIs there a command I can type in the konsle to see how much memory i have?12:14

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