=== ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Topic for #ubuntu+1: The In Development Version Channel | Please *don't* run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! === Topic (#ubuntu+1): set by PriceChild at Fri Jul 13 15:38:17 2007 [01:17] If I have both feisty and gutsy in apt/sources.list, does apt-cache seek only gutsy packages? [01:19] Drakeson, it will use the highest version numbers [01:19] you're running a gutsy system [01:19] and you shouldn't be. [01:20] hrm. what actually *starts* metacity? I thought it was something in /etc/X11/Xsession.d [01:20] so, if there is no wine in gutsy it will look for one in feisty? [01:21] the situation is that apt-cache search wine gives me nothing [01:21] !info wine gutsy [01:21] wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.41-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 31833 kB, installed size 99684 kB [01:22] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2007-06-30 14:10 x-window-manager -> /usr/bin/metacity [01:22] It appears to be in the init scripts as /usr/bin/x-window-manager which is /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager which is /usr/bin/metacity [01:23] which I also have. But it's not being started. [01:23] hrm. [01:23] isn't this enough? --> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main resticted universe multiverse === rjek [n=rjek@spoo.flarn.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:24] !repos [01:24] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource === archis [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has joined #ubuntu+1 === archis [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Ex-Chat"] === ceratophyllum [n=mike@252-72.187-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@ip70-185-171-252.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-114-119.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ceratophyllum [n=mike@252-72.187-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-120-159.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:35] anyone else have a broken gutsy? [01:35] dbus session error [01:35] me (from gobuntu nightly) -- D-Bus seems to not be starting correctly, no nautilus. [01:36] i cant get in to my desktop [01:36] gdm hangs after login [01:36] it's not like i'm in dire straits or anything, it's just a VM but i'd just like to know.. === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === clooch [n=clooch@66.231.221.19] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sayers [n=sayers@76.20.133.246] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:41] Hello, how do I mess with compiz fusions settings? [01:42] !compiz [01:42] Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects [01:42] sayers: #ubuntu-effects might help === Drakeson [n=user@128.100.244.150] has left #ubuntu+1 ["ERC] === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === archis [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has joined #ubuntu+1 === syp_ [n=chatzill@dhcp-83-219-108-36.customers.tvtnet.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.200.218] has joined #ubuntu+1 === archis [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has joined #ubuntu+1 === archis [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Ex-Chat"] === linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-c2fcf70212f5e9c4] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jumpkick [n=GED@bas2-toronto47-1242398200.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving."] === voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compwiz18 [n=adam18@metarb3-pool3-64.mtco.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === snax [n=snax@c-24-17-210-137.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ptn107 [n=phil@68.63.160.79] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chowmeined [n=will_@67.170.91.193] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compwiz18 [n=adam18@metarb3-pool3-64.mtco.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === manchicken [n=manchkn@ubuntu/member/manchicken] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [i=mofaav@static-ip-85-25-147-217.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lamalex [n=alex@c-71-225-106-125.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === matthew1429 [n=aferrero@24-207-189-33.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pushpop [n=marc@pool-71-125-51-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:57] where would i look to browse the current planned features for gutsy? [03:57] hello? [03:58] hi matthew1429 [03:58] !gutsy [03:58] Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1 [03:58] ty :) [03:58] yw :) === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@ip70-185-171-252.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS is now known as derekS === os2mac [n=jim@114-41-178-69.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === blackjeebus [i=w0rd@cpe-24-29-57-191.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === stewlatin [n=stew@mo-76-3-54-240.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === blackjeebus [i=w0rd@cpe-24-29-57-191.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === ucimok [n=ucimok@c-69-143-240-62.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === stewlatin [n=stew@mo-76-3-54-240.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === ucimok [n=ucimok@c-69-143-240-62.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.oh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [i=pbledc@static-ip-85-25-147-217.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === zig-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@251.110-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === acuster [n=acuster@pro75-1-82-67-202-232.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF214A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:30] What is gobuntu? [05:30] "Go" makes me think "Mobile", not "Free." === matthew1429 [n=aferrero@24-207-189-33.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:31] danag: agreed [05:32] that's what they should have called UME [05:32] gnubuntu was much better [05:34] they could call it gNewSense [05:34] freedombuntu === ajmorris_ [i=bidqxs@static-ip-85-25-147-217.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === TheGoodShepherd [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu+1.log [05:44] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- You do not have channel operator access to [#ubuntu-boot] [05:44] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-server] Ubuntu Server Discussions (development and support) [05:44] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-ops] Welcome to #ubuntu-ops - Home of the operators for official K/X/Ed/Ubuntu channels. Questions, requests and complaints about Ubuntu related channels and their people can be filed here" === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Topic for #ubuntu+1: The In Development Version Channel | Please *don't* run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! === Topic (#ubuntu+1): set by PriceChild at Fri Jul 13 15:38:17 2007 [05:44] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu+1] Please read the topic. Especially if things are broken! === zig-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lufis [n=sam@unaffiliated/lufis] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:49] how is tribe 2 in terms of stability? [05:49] i think its pretty good [05:50] gnome finally fixed the thing that always drived me nuts [05:50] drove [05:50] the window list items dont get evenly sized but now they do [05:51] ah [05:52] the only crash i ran into was um [05:52] eye of gnome, but it was already known [05:52] neat, i'm excited :0 [05:52] :) [05:52] tribe 3 comes out later this week i think [05:53] oh, seriously? i can wait then [05:53] yea, they just did a freeze today [05:54] hah, i should have looked up when 3 was due before i started downloading 2 === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lufis [n=sam@unaffiliated/lufis] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === ajmorris_ [i=uwdbbm@static-ip-85-25-147-217.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue48 [06:04] thanks for fixing OOo, whoever it was === Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:04] I don't get it: how can Vista be only 50 bucks? That's what Dell gives you for selecting Ubuntu. On HP's business machines, selecting FreeDOS gives you 160 or so dollars. [06:04] do you need/want gnumeric help? [06:05] DanaG: microsoft probably threatened them if they were to give a better discount [06:06] whats the status on unbreakable X and fixing that install bug where it hangs? === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p5B15D159.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.13.64] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:11] guys can somebody help me find the game bouncy , I updated but still can't find any info. about bouncy [06:11] while the info. is there in the gutsy-changes lists === Tomcat_ [n=Tomcat@p54A1F84A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.13.64] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1F81E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === eobanb [n=eoban@user-0c93gne.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5FF6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-82.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tretle [n=tretle@212.2.169.188] has joined #ubuntu+1 === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === yigal [n=yigal@pool-71-118-39-68.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:30] hey is this the place where I can express my interest in using bob marly and quotes from Mahatma Gandhi in 7.10? [07:30] wouldn't that be great === lloydbudd [n=lloyd@c-24-6-186-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [07:34] whats up no one interested in contemplating this? [07:34] it would rock' [07:34] Ubuntu, reggae, and the peace movement are so interconnected that it all makes sense === Sebastian [n=sb@p5088F056.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mo0osah [n=mo0osah@cpe-70-116-21-77.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:48] too bad [07:49] no one here to talk to === yigal [n=yigal@pool-71-118-39-68.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MugginsM [n=mm@202-74-211-21.ue.woosh.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7AF3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Xemanth [n=xemanth@hostf005.hamk.fi] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [08:24] *** anyone interested in doing some cd testing? *** === Bubble [i=Bubble@unaffiliated/bubble] has joined #ubuntu+1 === knix [i=knix@unaffiliated/knix] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:40] Does anyone have xsane working? It does nothing for me but give me [08:40] a blank image, scanimgae however ... works fine. === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-59-76.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === zanaga [i=ressu@oxygen.at.ressukka.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DarkX [n=DarkX@r74-195-223-154.sem1cmtc01.smnlok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:57] yea wow === claydoh__ [n=claydoh@66-252-59-76.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cypherdelic [n=cypherde@p508AFF2C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr_ [n=wfarr@adsl-154-122-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claydoh__ [n=claydoh@66-252-59-76.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@130.75.237.79] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr__ [n=wfarr@adsl-218-22-20.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu+1 === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has 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[03:05] is there a kernel or patch for gutsy? [03:06] I installed one from http://debian.systs.org/ but I can't get cryptsetup to work with that kernel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-a378959acc976e2e] has joined #ubuntu+1 === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h18n2c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h18n2c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:20] Hmmm, anyone know what changes have been made to kde's menu system from feisty to gutsy? [04:20] jussi01: not much, why? [04:21] Hobbsee: I tried to install crossover office, works fine on feisty, but no icons in the menu's ongutsy [04:21] program works fine on gutsy,just no icons [04:22] might be a c o problem? [04:22] c o usually carries it's own icons [04:22] none of the icons have changed, iirc === valehru [n=valehru@221.221.140.116] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:24] Hobbsee: yeah, I thought it might be a difference in the actual kde system for putting icons there. its exactly the same file used to install on both systems. [04:24] new kde, though, so... [04:25] yeah, thats why I was thinking that... [04:25] Woah, that's odd: suddenly my X server is missing GLX. [04:25] It worked fine yesterday, but now it's broken. [04:27] DanaG: to do with compiz stuff? [04:28] DanaG: new cds to test soon if you're interested, btw [04:28] Even nvidia-settings tells me that GLX is broken. === Tomcat__ [n=tomcat@infedyn081.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:32] Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". [04:34] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX module. If you continue to encounter problems, Please try reinstalling the NVIDIA driver. [04:34] So I shall do that. [04:34] Will be back soon. === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === r0bby [n=wakawaka@guifications/user/r0bby] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:36] Hobbsee: Which package should I look at for that problem? I want to check out the change-log. [04:37] jussi01: kdebase maybe? i dont know. you'd have to check the upstream changelog === dendrobates [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [04:37] hmmm, yeah. Ill have a look around. thanks anyway === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.89.82] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:06] Aah, I had installed nvidia-glx-new to let the desktop-effects thing be enabled, but that broke my manually-installed nvidia drivers. [05:07] that'll do it... [05:08] I wish that desktop-effects panel would detect that I already have nvidia installed. Right now it's coded to call restricted-manager, I believe. [05:08] hmm that is a little bit off [05:09] ubotu: bug 105756 [05:09] Launchpad bug 105756 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "DISABLED_MODULES="nv" doesn't stop nvidia_new.ko from loading" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105756 [05:09] That was also a factor. === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:13] Hmm, "Please run "desktop effects" again after restarting the computer, when the new graphics driver is active." -- the OK button does nothing. [05:15] Now I have used DISABLED_MODULES but installed nvidia-glx (not new or legacy), so now I can enable desktop-effects through the panel. === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF2DB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-58-165.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === systemd0wn [n=systemd0@office.rcubedtech.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === matysek [n=matysek@94.Red-81-39-206.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:26] Hmm, is there a reason aptitude is not included by default in gutsy? [05:31] it is? === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-41-37.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:42] In regards to broken USB to Serial adapters in kernel 2.6.18+ , wasn't this fixed in 2.6.21+ ? === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === b-tommy [n=tommy@port-87-234-201-207.static.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:46] hiho [05:47] sorry - my question is al little bit offtopic - but important *g* [05:47] Hobbsee: no, it isnt, I just had to install it [05:47] iam an cd/dvd-editor from an german linux magazin and we would like join two different ubuntu-versions on one dvd [05:47] is this possible? [05:48] unless something uninstalled it, that i didnt know about. [05:48] define "versions" [05:48] b-tommy: yes [05:48] jussi01: did you have kubuntu-desktop installed, and ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-minimal? [05:48] version one ist seminarix, version two is openexchange [05:48] jussi01: oh, did you not upgrade since the apt breakage? [05:48] Hobbsee: I installed from tribe 2 [05:48] both based on ubuntu 6.06 [05:48] b-tommy: they may have conflicting packages [05:48] Hobbsee: possibly not. [05:48] hmm - i know [05:49] jussi01: that sounds like the apt breakage from a week or so ago.. === fools [n=lloyd@user-64-9-235-192.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:49] Hobbsee: ok. That sounds like it then [05:49] fair enough [05:49] i have no glue, waht i must do and how i can make ist [05:50] b-tommy: which exact ones do you want on it? [05:50] just a moment: [05:51] seminarix: http://www.seminarix.org - the first one. based on ubuntu 6.06 === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@209.168.213.107] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:54] Open Exchange: http://www.open-xchange.com/EN/header/products/openxchange_express_edition.html - based also on Ubuntu 6.06 [05:55] with additional Pakages [05:56] b-tommy: I dont know those products well enough to say. sorry. [05:56] sorry folks - it is 6 o'clock in the evening - time to go home. if anyone can help me, please mail me to tleichtenstern@linux-magazin.de [05:56] thank you so much [05:57] by tomorrow === b-tommy is now known as b-tommy|afk [05:58] b-tommy|afk: for a start, i'd suggest actually contacting the makers of the distros themselves... [05:58] hmm [05:58] have you an specific contact-adress from the maintainer? [05:58] b-tommy|afk: but there's something...wrong, about the concept of putting two operating systems on one cd - which one's it going to know to install? [05:59] both [05:59] no, i havent heard of those derivatives before. google should, though. [05:59] seminarix is at first a live-cd with install-options [06:00] and openexchange is at first an install-distribution [06:00] Hmmm, you can do it if you have a non-live cd, ubuntu studio can give you a choice which group of packages you want installed, maybe something like that could be done? === zrg [n=andrey@85.234.187.157] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:03] actually, what you could do is install one, then sudo apt-cdrom add the other cd. but you'd end up in dependancy hell, i expect [06:03] ...unless you messed with the apt priorities too === zrg [n=andrey@85.234.187.157] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:05] b-tommy|afk: for almost all purposes, no it's not possible [06:06] b-tommy|afk: unless you wish to do a whole lot of extra work [06:06] thank you Hobbsee [06:06] b-tommy|afk: it's the equivalent of trying to have windows xp and 2000 on the same dvd, if that helps. === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@72.174-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:08] i'll be back tomorrow - thanks alot for your help === \x6e\x65\x72\x64 [n=gaucho@201-66-218-171.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:11] are people still having issues with the pl2303 USB to Serial adapters in kernel 2.6.22 ? === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Jettis [n=h0h0@a88-112-65-238.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === obsethryl [n=cball@unaffiliated/obsethryl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === kalpik [n=kalpik@122.162.166.96] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pushpop [n=marc@pool-71-125-51-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Happu [n=Happu@166-82.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@209.168.213.107] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fools [n=lloyd@user-64-9-235-192.googlewifi.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === fools [n=lloyd@user-64-9-235-192.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lloydbudd [n=lloyd@user-64-9-235-192.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrsno [n=mrsno@cpc3-blfs6-0-0-cust294.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ptn107 [n=phil@68.63.160.79] has joined #ubuntu+1 === enyc [n=enyc@1337.whitehorse.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@165.sub-70-216-117.myvzw.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-58-165.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === LinAsH [n=missmagu@84.13.155.100] has joined #ubuntu+1 === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === joumetal [n=jouni@laku42.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu+1 === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h18n2c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vicox [n=vicox@p549877D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === x-spec-t is now known as Spec === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@209.168.213.107] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pwnguin [n=jld5445@camaro.cis.ksu.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === |capirra [n=capiira@dslb-088-065-205-074.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [08:49] <|capirra> hi all any body know if the gutsy alternate cd supports encrypting a partiton? [08:49] <|capirra> for whole root encryption [08:49] <|capirra> using dm-crypt === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === asisak is now known as coNP === sen3 [n=sen@251.110-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=nate@static-151-204-225-84.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:09] ANyone know what version of alsa Gutsy comes with ? === SmrtJustin [n=SmrtJust@72.241.32.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@DSL217-132-187-167.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:13] ShackJack: 1.0.14 [09:14] !info alsa gutsy [09:14] Hmm... not rc1, rc2, etc..., then.. [09:14] Package alsa does not exist in gutsy [09:14] heh [09:15] Riiiight.. [09:15] !info alsa-lib gutsy [09:15] !info alsa-base gutsy [09:15] Package alsa-lib does not exist in gutsy [09:15] alsa-base: ALSA driver configuration files. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.14-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 177 kB, installed size 360 kB [09:15] there we are :) [09:16] Nice I've read fedora will use delta updates. (So people don't have to download the entire app for an update of a few files). [09:16] I wish Ubuntu did something like this. Volume is hard to get by. === karmue [n=karli@e178133232.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:17] Ahh, handy trick - thanks... That bot knows everything! [09:17] !info pidgin [09:17] pidgin: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1787 kB, installed size 5040 kB [09:18] ShackJack: just dont abuse it, the bot can only do so much, and its very busy === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.142.50.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bronson [n=bronson@66.237.74.66.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === manchicken__ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === obsethryl [n=cball@unaffiliated/obsethryl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-58-165.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=nate@static-151-204-225-84.bos.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === jorgp [n=jorgp@adsl-70-234-149-192.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MetaBot [n=metabot@unaffiliated/ljl/bot/metabot] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.68.51.86] has joined #ubuntu+1 === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === emet [n=guest@unaffiliated/emet] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.7.154] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:47] ubotu gutsy [10:47] Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1 === sn0 [n=mrsno@unaffiliated/sn0] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rendero [n=rendero@unaffiliated/rendero] has joined #ubuntu+1 === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === humbolto [n=elias@213-147-185-150.ADSL.ycn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:02] hi, anybody knows if 7.10 release is fixed and ntfs read support exists ? [11:03] rendero: it works fine here [11:03] thx [11:03] and vlc crushed before [11:04] 2 reasons because i didnt keep it on my pc [11:04] rendero: it does in 7.04 so i guess it will be in 7.10 [11:04] vlc --release [11:04] VLC media player 0.8.6c Janus === asisak is now known as coNP [11:05] i used tribe 1 [11:05] me on tribe 2+ updates [11:05] it had a lot of bugs [11:05] ok === MacSlow [n=mirco@212.2.21.2] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tretle_ [n=tretle@193.203.139.195] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.7.154] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-58-165.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === TheSheep [i=sheep@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-41-37.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:21] say, do you guys also have this? evince opens in window larger than the screen, and I have to use the keyboard shortcuts to resize it every time === DanaG [n=DanaG@pcp028191pcs.wireless.calpoly.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:21] I just ask before filling a bug to make sure it's not my configuration === MugginsM [n=jennyj@69.55.232.10] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:25] Don't know, don't use Evince. === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-143-235-27.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:29] and with a lot of commands i got this : ***MEMORY-WARNING***: [11262] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon.... Does anybody get the same ? [11:29] rendero: yes [11:29] ok thx [11:29] rendero: practically anything that uses gtk [11:30] well, may be some months later it will be stable :S [11:30] doubt it [11:31] rendero: it doesn't support extended input devices too :( [11:33] which ones ? === Mohero [n=jason@cpc3-rdng6-0-0-cust355.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:35] rendero: tablet [11:35] rendero: there is some bug related to it that makes clicking impossible with the tablet eabled === Mohero [n=jason@cpc3-rdng6-0-0-cust355.winn.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Mohero [n=jason@cpc3-rdng6-0-0-cust355.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:36] because you dont see the cursor ? [11:37] rendero: at least they marked it as a duplicate of a gtk bug when I reported it for gimp [11:37] rendero: yes, just clicking stops working, both with tablet and the mouse [11:37] yes, i know [11:37] now i remember another bug [11:40] Hi, all, Just a small question, does any one know if network-manager-pptp will work on manually configured wireless cards in Gutsy? [11:41] at the moment, it falls over and says it can't find an adaptor... [11:43] rendero: funny that it works ok in Inkscape :/ [11:44] :/ === rejser [n=rejser@84-55-116-111.customers.ownit.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rejser_ [n=rejser@84-55-116-111.customers.ownit.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-58-165.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-58-165.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === X_ [n=X@nblzone-208-40.nblnetworks.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:05] flight 3, anyone? [12:06] sorry, tribe :P === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.oh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@pcp028191pcs.wireless.calpoly.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:27] TheSheep: you have a usb tablet? === ahuman [n=oem@ool-18b8b7f4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:27] pwnguin: yes, wacom volito 2 [12:29] X_: comes out tomorrow [12:29] TheSheep: nifty. ive got a tablet PC [12:30] pwnguin: it was the cheapest there was, but I really need it for work