=== Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mobile.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Topic for #ubuntu-mobile: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded === Topic (#ubuntu-mobile): set by mdz at Mon May 14 14:24:09 2007 === bfiller [n=bfiller@pool-71-174-120-122.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === kevinTW [n=kvbuntu@221-169-13-105.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Kain0 [n=i@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [06:57] Would anyone use an app like this? http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9085/objecttouchtagxs6.png It is(a mock) a tag cloud that will be used to sort with tracker or tracker tags. === jacob-laptop [i=jpan9@nat/intel/x-9dc63345886370c0] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === kevinTW [n=kvbuntu@221-169-13-105.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === kevinTW [n=kvbuntu@221-169-13-105.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === jsmanrique [n=jsmanriq@cme-staticIP-212-89-8-169.telecable.es] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === amitk_ [n=amit@a81-197-135-210.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bobux [i=bspencer@nat/intel/x-f7441fc59d4180d2] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === robr [i=rob@nat/intel/x-d83597e58f685ace] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === DannyZ [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-cb7f66da2144b582] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sabotage [i=sabotage@nat/intel/x-3f2505f278c556a3] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sp3000 [n=tt@hoasb-ff0ddd00-250.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === eton [n=eton@58.64.123.172] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === rusty [n=rusty@62-50-195-199.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === matt_c [n=mcroydon@137.147.45.66.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === kevinTW [n=kvbuntu@221-169-13-105.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === matt_c [n=mcroydon@137.147.45.66.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === rusty [n=rusty@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [01:32] rusty: morning, spotted a small typo on moblin.org: http://moblin.org/downloads.html refers to Fiesty, should be Feisty [01:33] ok [01:33] hmm.... === fcarvalho [n=fcarvalh@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === agoliveira [n=adilson@200.146.40.120.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === jacob-olympia-de [n=jacob@c-67-160-40-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === jacob-olympia-de [n=jacob@c-67-160-40-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === jacob_ [n=jacob@c-67-160-40-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === jsmanrique [n=jsmanriq@cme-staticIP-212-89-8-169.telecable.es] has left #ubuntu-mobile [] === kevinTW [n=kvbuntu@221-169-13-105.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bspencer [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-90bccd9bf7a86da3] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === smagoun [n=steve@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [03:51] bspencer: Hi Bob. Got up early today? :) [03:52] agoliveira: yeah === rusty [n=rusty@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === kevinTW [n=kvbuntu@221-169-13-105.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === kevinTW [n=kvbuntu@221-169-13-105.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === matt_c [n=mcroydon@gozur.sunflowerbroadband.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bfiller [n=bfiller@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bfiller_ [n=bfiller@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bfiller_ [n=bfiller@scoville.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === smagoun [n=steve@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bfiller [n=bfiller@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bfiller_ [n=bfiller@scoville.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === agoliveira [n=adilson@200.146.40.120.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [05:11] It's moblin-image-creator === mdz_ [n=mdz@64-42-110-100.atgi.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === kevinTW [n=kvbuntu@221-169-13-105.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === matt_c [n=mcroydon@24.124.1.110] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bfiller [n=bfiller@scoville.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === smagoun_ [n=steve@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === smagoun [n=steve@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === rusty [n=rusty@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === mfrey [n=mfrey@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === smagoun_ [n=steve@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-074-019-057.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === doko__ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-126-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === smagoun [n=steve@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === agoliveira [n=adilson@200.146.40.120.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === captainigloo [n=silent@gar31-4-82-240-198-102.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === matt_c_ [n=mcroydon@24.124.1.110] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === captainigloo [n=silent@gar31-4-82-240-198-102.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === matt_c [n=mcroydon@24.124.1.110] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === agoliveir1 [n=adilson@201.22.80.236.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Sciri [n=sean@fw.pepper.com] has joined #Ubuntu-Mobile === Sciri [n=sean@fw.pepper.com] has left #Ubuntu-Mobile [] === Sciri [n=sean@fw.pepper.com] has joined #Ubuntu-Mobile === sabotage is now known as sabotage_afk === phanatic [n=phanatic@212.2.21.2] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === rusty [n=rusty@62-50-192-49.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [08:33] CharliefJohnson: in general, there's no need to Cc me on mails sent to the mobile list; they just end up confusing me since I then see them twice. === bfiller_ [n=bfiller@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bfiller [n=bfiller@scoville.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === jacob-pc [i=jpan9@nat/intel/x-02418073419d7637] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === jacob-laptop [i=jpan9@nat/intel/x-92da179114b3afc3] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [09:54] rusty: Hi. I found a weird bug on image-creator. When you close it, it does not umount /tmp, /sys, /proc, etc so, after a few tries you have a dozen mount points floating around :) === mfrey_ [n=mfrey@scoville.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [09:54] agoliveira, yes, somebody reported that in bugzilla yesterday [09:55] the bug isnt' that it doesn't umount on closing the tool, but that it incorrectly remounts what is already mounted [09:56] either using the tool to umount or delete the project/target umounts all the mounts anyway, but i'm sure its a waste of resources [09:57] Ok. [10:00] rusty: we should make it use /var/lib/moblin-image-creator for rootstraps and such too.. running with /usr mounted read-only is a supported configuration [10:01] ahh [10:01] good point [10:01] it'd make Adam not cry so much. :-) === bspencer [n=chatzill@c-67-189-100-207.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [10:03] the bad thing is that once i change that... then I'll have all these people crying about their projects disappearing. oh well :-> === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bspencer [n=chatzill@c-67-189-100-207.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-mobile [] [10:11] rusty: I wouldn't mind. It's not a final release yet so let them cry like babies :) [10:12] then it's on [10:12] rusty, BTW, if you're changing something today or tomorrow, let me know as I'm preparing a document about it and I *will* cry like a baby if I had to change it before even ready ;) [10:13] i'm about to boot a new image right now, so unless i find something big time broke, then it's on the top of the hit list === mfrey [n=mfrey@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sabotage_afk is now known as sabotage === jacob-pc [i=jpan9@nat/intel/x-251e4e9e3a2d001b] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [11:02] agoliveira, now that i look at what's happening... i don't see any redundent bind mountings in the various chroot filesystems [11:02] rusty, Perhaps the package at gutsy repo is old? [11:02] agoliveira: no, it's not. [11:03] there are no changes for that outstanding. [11:03] agoliveira, mind you there are a hell of a lot of bind mountings [11:03] but do you see this growing? [11:03] ie when you run the tool over and over [11:03] Exactly that. [11:04] Anyway, I've being doing test after test to document the process. Perhaps I made something nasty. [11:04] so if your have a project in some directory foo, then you can do a 'mount|grep foo|wc -l' and get bigger numbers each time you chroot inside? [11:05] I'm leaving now but I'll try again later or tomorrow to see if I can reproduce the problem. === Mithrandir tells rusty about grep -c === rusty feels smarter [11:06] Bye all === jacob-laptop [i=jpan9@nat/intel/x-1f6f7f42dea5e4de] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [11:08] hiya jacob [11:08] travel went fine? [11:10] rusty: isn't the sources.list in the target fs used? Is it the one for the project? [11:10] the target, for installing in the target filesystem [11:12] sure? http://rafb.net/p/yBDdz450.html is what I get. [11:12] hildon-desktop is universe. [11:15] oh, sorry, I'm a muppet [11:24] is there any useful way to tell me why the flash isn't displaying anything. Like, a logfile or something? [11:25] Mithrandir, it's because we require the composite patch in the xserver [11:25] it was added, then somebody complained, and it was removed [11:25] ah, point. [11:26] I need to get that fixed then [11:26] I have been manually installing the patched xserver after installing all fsets === Mithrandir nods. [11:27] so it's not just flash, but any hildon home applet [11:27] oh well, bedtime. I'll poke this tomorrow [11:27] me too [11:27] i'm giving up === jacob-laptop [i=jpan9@nat/intel/x-4c56d04fe564788e] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === ketrox [n=ketrox@Xd354.x.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === phanatic [n=phanatic@212.2.21.2] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === matt_c [n=mcroydon@24.124.1.110] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mobile