=== Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mythtv.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Topic for #ubuntu-mythtv: "Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv:: Mythbuntu 7.10 Alpha 2: http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :: See our wiki for setting up and troubleshooting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV" === Topic (#ubuntu-mythtv): set by superm1 at Tue Jul 3 00:45:59 2007 === OpenMedia [n=sellis@60-234-129-166.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === bjweeks_ [n=bjweeks@unaffiliated/bjweeks] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === foxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-24-171.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:17] evening superm1 [06:17] superm1, hows it going? === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:21] superm1, what are the chances of PPC mythbuntu? === foxxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-24-171.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:32] PPC? [06:32] tgm4883_laptop, you pervert [06:32] :P [06:33] Childish [06:33] You should see the size of my Hard Drive [06:33] it's a good thing I got rid of my 3 1/2 inch floppy [06:33] lol [06:34] ok, what is your HDD cap? [06:35] nah, i only have 80Gb here, 160 on my desktop, 400 on my mythtv box and 700Gb on my server [06:36] oh [06:36] I dont have a server to add the extra space in yet [06:36] once .21 comes out though, watch out [06:36] lol [06:37] Im running 520 on an LVM on my myth box [06:37] sweet [06:37] HD? [06:37] yea [06:37] oh [06:37] not HD [06:37] lol [06:37] analog [06:37] yea [06:38] it blows [06:38] i agree [06:38] around here HD is crap anyways [06:38] where at? [06:39] ia [06:39] ah [06:40] pretty much stuck with crap ass cable or really crappy dish [06:40] and OTA [06:42] and I am waiting until I finish working on my house to get a really big ass TV to go HD === bjweeks- [n=bjweeks@ip72-201-248-48.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:44] HD rocks, blows analog away. (dont get me started on the "Next Gen" DVD formats though) [06:44] Really depends on what you want to watch though [06:44] oh I know [06:45] I am however about to add a 32" LCD to my collection, and build a frontend for it with HDMI [06:45] nice [06:45] 32 is a good size [06:45] yea [06:45] I found a good price on one too [06:46] $599 for a hyundai [06:46] 720p [06:46] with dual HDMI in [06:46] my brother has a 92in projection screen, its ok for movies and such, but i couldn't imagine watching everything on that [06:46] and a built in ATSC/QAM tuner [06:46] nice [06:46] yea [06:47] good price, i have a 37in vizio that I think was about 800 [06:47] yea [06:48] I am wall mounting this one, so 32 is all the bigger we can do [06:48] I can do* [06:48] oh yea, wall mounting is nice === tgm4883_laptop wants to wall mount his, but not in an apartment :( [06:48] lol [06:53] tgm4883_laptop, how long you had that Vizio TV? [06:53] since january [06:53] you liking it? [06:54] its pretty nice, quick response time, colors look good. Only complaint is the volume from the mythbox to the tv, but im not sure if thats the tv or the mythbox [06:55] oh [06:55] I had that with my myth too for a bit, but then found out it was my cable box [06:56] volume on it got turned way down somehow so the recordins where all reall quite [06:56] everything is quiet. I ended up outputing sound from the tv to a stereo [06:57] hmm [06:57] strange [06:58] oh one more thing, the volume i noticed from 0 to 50 had pretty good range, but from 50 to 100 didn't seem to increase as much. [06:58] odd [06:58] yep [06:59] I dont know if it's a feature of the tv or what, but when I turn off my mythbox, the tv shuts off [06:59] its hooked up through vga [06:59] i suppose its just detecting the signal [06:59] well, I worked for Best Buy a long time back, and one thing I learned is it the store brand or generic electronics usually are crap, but sometimes they are just a rebranded version of the higher end stuff [07:00] yea, i read somewhere that the vizio's are rebranded [07:00] let me see if i can find that again [07:00] k [07:01] tgm4883_laptop, very possible [07:01] only problem is on most ppc machines, xorg doesn't properly autoconfigure === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5FF6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:15] superm1, just had somebody asking about it in the forums [07:16] you know how I love those forums [07:16] tgm4883_laptop, can you ask them if a standard ubuntu disk works? [07:16] on their machines? [07:16] sure === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-82.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === yigal [n=yigal@pool-71-118-39-68.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:27] hey what is a cheap card for a desktop that will work with mythtv? I have an old system p4 1.7ghz 1.25gb ram nvidia fx 5200 graphics card [07:27] i just want to watch cable, and if possible record a show now and then [07:34] well whats your definition of cheap? [07:35] across the board - i'd say go hauppauge pvr-150 for the cheaper variant, or pvr-500 if you wanted to spend a few and get two tuners [07:36] superm1: ill check it out [07:37] superm1: the 150 is for $72 at newegg, sounds good [07:38] superm1: i just want to make sure it is compatible with linux [07:38] yes it is [07:38] superm1: good [07:38] superm1: im making the order now then [07:38] great. its supported out of the box on feisty and later [07:39] earlier releases you'll have to install a driver [07:39] superm1: no problem if its just a driver [07:39] superm1: im using Feisty and Deb unstable === yigal [n=yigal@pool-71-118-39-68.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === Tari_ [n=Tari@mke-66-97-121-224.milwpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-59-76.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === bjweeks- is now known as bjweeks === claydoh__ [n=claydoh@66-252-59-76.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === claydoh__ [n=claydoh@66-252-59-76.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:09] superm1: when you wake up, you got time to package a lib I found if it meets the criteria, if not I'll package it up for my own use (but I prob do them wrong and not the ubuntu way) === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-58-165.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jeffcster [n=jeffcste@mallorn.informatics.jax.org] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:54] does anyine have time to answer a couple of mythbuntu questions? [12:55] probably [12:55] I was wondering how I can get to a terminal window. I can't seem to find the right keystrokes or a way to do it. [12:56] jeffcster: are you logged in as your normal user? [12:58] this is my first time to freenode so not really a normal user to irc [12:58] no, i was talking about your mythbuntu box. do you see mythfrontend now or do you see the administration desktop? [01:00] it logs in as mythtv user and goes to the main myth screen autimatically. I did manager to log in to the administration screen last night. [01:01] jeffcster: jsut exit mythfrontend and log in to the administration screen. then you can right-click and start a terminal [01:03] ok! thanks so much. My last question is about recordings. I have 2 hard drives on my system and mythbuntu was set up on the 40gig drive. I want to save recordings to the 120gig drive. What is the easiest way to accomplish that? [01:03] hum [01:03] you wait till 0.21 is released :P [01:04] or you use this script as an user job: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/release-0-20-fixes/mythtv/contrib/myth_archive_job.pl [01:11] ok, I'll look this over. thank you for your time. :-) [01:12] no problem :) [01:12] 2007-07-18 13:12:24.796 RingBuf(/GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/screwless/3009_2007071801200 [01:13] 0.mpg): Could not open /GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/screwless/3009_20070718012000.mpg. [01:13] oops, sorry. wrong window. === Kenz1 [n=jesper@4306ds2-ar.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:18] jeffcster: mount the 2nd dive on something like /recordings [01:18] then in myttv-setup set the path for recordings to /recordings [01:19] then all of your recordings go onto the larger disk, [01:20] hum [01:20] Dave, that is sort of how my friend said to do it but he siad I would need to re mount each time I rebooted the machine. right? [01:20] i assumed you wanted to use both drives ;) [01:21] hey [01:21] any news on the usbstick/ install brainstorm? [01:22] i haven't tried it yet ;) [01:24] jeffcster: not if you stick the detials into the fstab. /etc/fstab === DaveMorris off for lunch [01:27] DaveMorris: ok. I'll have to try that later and see how it works. I'm assuming your saying to make a directory called recordings on the bigger drive and then just point mythtv to it. That correct? well you can answer me after lunch. thanks. === Hugolp [n=jo@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Kenz1 [n=jesper@4306ds2-ar.0.fullrate.dk] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [02:22] make a dir called recordings on your root filesystem - sudo mkdir /recordings [02:22] mount the 2nd hdd onto this dir - sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /recordings [02:22] use mythtv-setup to tell it to record to /recordings [02:22] edit /etc/fstab to auto mount the 2nd drive - sudo gedit /etc/fstab [02:22] adding - /dev/sdb1 /recordings xfs defaults 0 3 [02:22] I'd also reommend using the xfs filesystem instead of ext3 on the 2nd drive, as it better for large files - sudo mkfs.xfs /dev/sdb1 [02:22] jeffcster: ^^ [02:28] DaveMorris: thanks that makes it very clear. :) [02:29] it'll be in the manual for release, as its the setup I'd recommended [02:29] since mythtv seems to eat disks due to constantly writing/deleting large files [02:29] jeffcster: mind you, mkfs.xfs will delete anything on that drive ;) [02:29] or let's say partition [02:30] that's fine, there is nothing on the disk I need anyway. :) [02:30] yeah, your partions might be wrong, and wrong disks etc [02:43] Daviey: what do I need to buy to allow me to use IR remotes via a usb/serial connection? === jeffcster [n=jeffcste@mallorn.informatics.jax.org] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === SalvaConNome [n=mattia@host66-163-static.104-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:07] hi to all [03:12] hi === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:45] Howdy! [03:46] afternoon === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:53] hi to all [03:56] Can i make an ot question? [03:56] for dvb-s === foxbuntu [n=nick@67-41-244-37.desm.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:00] sure, however I've not used dvb-s before === Hugolp [n=jo@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:04] hi dave [04:04] do you know sasc--ng? [04:07] afraid not, I'm in Europe so I just know dvb [04:08] ok thanks [04:08] however I'm guessing superm1 will be up soon [04:08] and he'll know [04:08] thanks === DaveMorris shouts across the 'pond' for superm1 to wake up [04:09] i'll wait === foxbuntu looks groggy eyed after rudely awaking by DaveMorris shouting from across the pond [04:10] :P [04:11] gah [04:11] now he's gone [04:11] DaveMorris: sasc-ng is a "softcam" [04:12] and how do you use it? [04:24] man i had a hard time sleeping. i had this dream someone kept yelling for me :) [04:24] what's up? [04:24] well, my point was that it's usually illegal and often used for illegal things ;) [04:25] ah a softcam [04:25] okay [04:32] superm1, what was the name of that irish beer? [04:34] guiness, kilkenny? [04:34] naw [04:34] its made by guiness though [04:34] its and irish ale [04:36] oh Smithwicks [04:37] yes [04:37] was gonna try to find it, but couldnt remember the name [04:37] superm1, I bought a truck last night [04:37] another one? [04:38] well same one [04:38] brought it home [04:38] why would you pay for the same truck twice? [04:38] hmm [04:38] why did i indeed? === foxbuntu thinks superm1 needs to stop trying to be so literal around foxbuntu [04:39] did you get a high quality truck for 2x the cost of a low quality truck then? === foxbuntu the only literal statements foxbuntu wants to hear from superm1 right now are of the pyparsing kind, Literal("SUXOR").suppress [04:41] :) [04:41] on that front [04:41] I may have found a way to not parse the entire file out [04:42] to not? [04:42] pyparsing allows you to do dictionaries, so I can just look for Vol+ and have it know that its VolumeUp [04:43] ect ect [04:43] right, you can make a dictionary of such items and easily run each thing through that dictionary [04:43] understood [04:43] then I will just use the results to insert the function into the lircrc [04:44] so there will be a premade lircrc to use, and I will add a preset of replacement words like VolUpIns = Volup [04:44] or whatever it is in the lircrc [04:44] premade eh [04:45] what if the remote doesn't support some buttons in the premade lircrc [04:45] and then have pyparsing look for the ins word and replace with the found dic language [04:45] well I am only going to program for required buttons [04:46] 0-9 Guide, Play, Pause, ect [04:46] everything else the user will be on their own [04:46] well in a first iteration that will be fine [04:46] but that will have to be improved upon [04:46] thats fine [04:47] but to get things rolling thats the way I think I will handle it [04:47] then we can drop a patch in there later as I get better with pyton [04:50] I am slowing picking the programing stuff backup [04:50] I had lost alot of the basic concepts since I hadn't wrote anything in like 3 years [04:51] and even then it wasnt much [04:51] well keep on trucking along :) [04:51] DaveMorris, are you here? [04:52] DaveMorris, http://mythbuntu.org/~supermario/mythbuntu/7.10-screenshots/mythbuntu-live-autostart/ [04:53] that's where i'm headed with the autostart so you can get an idea of what it will be looking like before i've got it in and fully functional [04:53] I'll take a look [04:54] btw how can a use configure wireless ? [04:54] there is no easy way right now [04:54] there is a manual method you can do [04:54] but we'll need something better than that likely [04:54] superm1, nice [04:55] foxbuntu, i've got the python backend for it coded, it's just a matter of binding everything to the gui i built now :) [04:55] that will save allot of pain for users [04:57] well its going to be something only applicable for a live disk [04:57] to add more functionality in live mode === Tari__ [n=Tari@mke-66-97-117-11.milwpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:58] oh [04:58] gotcha [04:58] well either way [04:58] nice work [04:58] thx. i'll be back in a bit [04:59] ZOMG! === rogue780 15 @ 1337 h@x0r! [05:00] lol [05:04] rogue780, what did you do? === superm1 [i=malimonc@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-58-165.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:30] foxbuntu, I configured my mythbox so that whenever the twilight zone is on tv the lights in my computer room will flicker on and off [05:30] behold! the power of the transistor and the parallel port@ [05:30] ! === laga blinks [05:32] rogue780, maybe you need to put a few moments more towards artwork :) [05:34] lol. maybe. I'll admit I've hit a setback...I'm still trying to figure out SVG and such. the GIMP is much easier [05:37] do you know what ever happened with riku ? === foxbuntu rflmao at rogue780 [05:38] that other guy who had the pretty nice exapmles? [05:40] not a clue. to be honest once he sent those over I kinda gave up a little too...they were (IMO) *perfect* [05:40] haha [05:41] well i'll send an email out the mailing list and see if he responds. he is subscribed [05:41] superm1, rogue780, (IMO) mine were crap [05:41] if he doesn't respond, then I say you, dave johnson, and foxbuntu just take where he started from those and keep going [05:41] lol [05:41] rgr that [05:41] there are still plenty of other UI related things that need cleanup [05:41] like the gtk theme [05:42] for sure [05:42] oh yea [05:42] that [05:42] lol [05:42] I will look into that when I have a moment [05:42] superm1, FYI I'm still trying to buy a house. now I'm sifting through all my files trying to find my tax documents for the last 3 years. argh... [05:43] yikes [05:43] thats alot of work to buy a house [05:43] I didn't have that much trouble [05:44] yeah, well it takes a bit of work when you want Maryland to pay most of your closing costs [05:45] We've got almost no cash so we're getting grants...and that takes a bit extra work unfortunately [05:45] hmm [05:45] I bought mine at 0 down [05:45] I actually paid nothing to move in [05:45] no grants [05:45] And the rent we're paying for military housing is about $300 more/month than this home is with twice the sq/footage [05:46] ah [05:46] on the 31st when we close the deal we'll actually be getting about $400 in credit back which we'll put towards the principle [05:46] kewl [05:46] foxbuntu, you didn't use that carlton sheets method did ye? [05:47] I got the sellers to pay the closing costs on my house plus the first yr's insurance and a few other things [05:47] I just played the numbers to get the house at my price but made it look like the sellers were getting their price [05:48] I offered them only a little below the price of the house but then had them pay closing and actual costs to a certian percent [05:48] nice. unfortunately for us Maryland has just transferred from a sellers market to a buyers market....but a lot of sellers don't realize it yet. the seller is paying $1,500 in closing, we're getting $5,800 from MD and my realtor is giving a $1,800 credit [05:48] kewl [05:48] we're getting it for $175k the list price was $179,900 [05:49] yea...Iowa is a buyers market right now too, has been for about 10 months now [05:50] its been a depressed market here for a while [05:50] Colorado is a great place to buy right now. possibly best in the country. I kinda wish I were there, you can get houses for dirt cheap especially around colorado springs [05:52] superm1, have you considered switching to #mythbuntu at all? [05:52] rogue780, considered it, but it's so much trouble [05:52] it was hard enough to get a lot of the things in this channel active [05:52] ubotu, ubuntulog, controlling the topic, channelserv [05:53] next time Ompaul is around, maybe can request #mythbuntu to redirect here [05:53] I'm in #mythbuntu ... have been for a while with tgm4883. I put in the topic to come here [05:54] ah i see :) [05:54] a lot of people were going there instead of here to ask questions [05:54] oh [05:54] good call then [05:54] that's great [05:54] ;) [05:55] well, I'm off to see a man about a dog. adios [05:55] cya [05:56] superm1, I asked that guy about the live disk and ppc [05:56] and what'd he say? [05:56] aparently there isn't a live disk for it [05:56] for PPC [05:56] yes there is [05:56] my roomate ran it [05:57] but I have a buddy that has a mac in the #ubuntu-oregon, so when he gets on i'll ask him if his is ppc [05:57] ill also send the guy a link to the live disk [05:57] the problem with my roomate's emac was that it wouldn't detect X properly [05:57] the timing is very very finicky on those monitors [05:57] and you need to pull it from the edid, which isn't done automatically === PhilKC [n=PhilKC@freenode/staff/philkc] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:07] Hi PhilKC [06:07] Mornin' [06:08] we've had a few folks headed over to #mythbuntu for questions regarding mythbuntu, but since it's the same guys (us) working on ubuntu for mythtv or mythbuntu, it would be easier if they just redirected here [06:10] there is a #mythbuntu [06:11] DaveMorris, as rogue780 and tgm4883 pointed out, people have been headed over there (i had no idea) === lashmoove [n=Tommy_Bo@adsl-065-015-057-251.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === lashmoove [n=Tommy_Bo@adsl-065-015-057-251.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:28] I guess its fixed then [06:29] What language is this? [06:29] #ubuntu-cn #ubuntu-tw #ubuntu-hk [06:30] who knows? === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [06:30] PhilKC, it appears to be active now, not sure if it was you or nalioth that got it taken care of, but thanks :) [06:30] nalioth [06:31] ah did he join #mythbuntu and let you guys know? [06:31] not exactly [06:32] * nalioth (i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth) has joined #mythbuntu [06:32] * nalioth sets mode +P #mythbuntu [06:32] * nalioth sets mode +m #mythbuntu [06:32] * nalioth sets mode +i #mythbuntu [06:32] * nalioth sets mode +f #mythbuntu #ubuntu-mythtv [06:32] * nalioth has kicked rogue780 from #mythbuntu (nalioth) [06:32] * You have been kicked from #mythbuntu by nalioth (nalioth) [06:32] Dang it [06:32] !pastebin [06:32] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [06:32] i always forget [06:33] ah okay [06:33] there is also a #mythbuntu-dev channel, but i dont think anyone usually goes there. You would have to ask rogue780 [06:33] man when did all these channels get made? [06:33] were they registered? [06:33] no [06:33] just joined [06:34] just like #superm1isthecoolest [06:34] haha [06:34] sorry buddy, you only have 1 fan [06:40] what about #foxbunturocksyourworld ? [06:44] thats even worse, you have 0 fans [06:52] ahh === seabag [n=seabag@70-101-97-67.dsl1-field.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:28] hey everyone [07:28] does anyone here have the hauppauge PCI pvr 150 mce? [07:29] Yes [07:29] well i've got a 500, but its the same thing as 2 150s [07:29] what's your trouble? [07:32] seabag, ^? [07:35] well, === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-58-165.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:36] i put my pc to sleep and after waking it up from either suspend or hibernate, the card doesn't respond. [07:36] (sorry i was typin something just now :) [07:37] have you tried to unload and reload the ivtv modules before/after suspend [07:37] hm no i haven't. how do i do that? [07:37] edit /etc/default/acpi-support [07:38] and add ivtv to the lists of MODULES [07:38] that are unloaded and reloaded [07:38] additionally, you might need to unload some of the components that ivtv loads, saa7134 and a few others [07:38] but try with just ivtv for now === seabag excited [07:39] ok hangon i'll try it!! [07:40] keescook, I assembled a patch that should handle parsing the /dev/v4l/by-id directory last night, when do you think you will have the udev rule in so i can test with it? [07:41] superm1: it's on my list, but it requires more than a rule update -- the "path_id" helper scripts needs updated too. bleh. [07:41] yick [07:41] okay [07:41] well whenever it's in, ping me and i'll play with the patch to make sure things work as expected [07:41] let me finish it up so you can test with it. I need to run it by the udev maintainer just so he doesn't slap me in the head for doing something dumb. :) [07:42] of course :) [07:42] one thing that i had thought of though, if you have two of the same device, they do have the same pci id [07:42] don't they? [07:43] pci id yes, but not pci _path_. (i.e. bus, slot, etc) === mkrufky [n=mk@unaffiliated/mkrufky] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:43] right, that would make sense [07:43] g'afternoon mkrufky [07:44] hello superm1 [07:45] mkrufky, there are other pieces of firmware that can be obtained via the script shipped with the kernel from various places. Do you know if an effort to get these other pieces into the ubuntu packge would be worthwhile? [07:45] or the licenses on said pieces will forbade such things [07:46] superm1: i have been trying, VERY HARD to get those firmware images into ubuntu [07:46] and i, apparently, did the wrong thing up till now [07:46] well someone within the mythbuntu team was going to do a python app for grabbing firmware for devices [07:47] if they weren't going to be making it into the kernel for gutsy [07:47] ..... for example, Launchpad Bug #90723 [07:47] Launchpad bug 90723 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Please include bluebird firmware for dvb-usb devices" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90723 [07:47] *I* released that firmware image to the public [07:47] and i'd love it if ubuntu would package it [07:47] aha!! well i added ivtv and it wakes up the card now! but, i may need to add some of those others too, because the card doesn't actually show anything. [07:47] great seabag :) [07:48] saa7134, and any others you recommend? [07:48] no python app necessary -- we have linux/Documentation/dvb/get_dvb_firmware inside the kernel source [07:48] mkrufky, given that you had released that firmware, that's pretty shocking. i would worry about the other not 'public domain' pieces [07:48] dont you think i should start with my own? [07:48] mkrufky, right, but something more 'user' friendly pygtk ish [07:48] was the goal [07:48] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/firmware-finder [07:49] seabag, look at dmesg, you'll see between the START IVTV and END IVTV blocks [07:49] what was loaded [07:50] what do you want to know about saa7134, seabag ? [07:50] superml, where is dmesg located? [07:50] mkrufky, well basically my pvr 150mce pci won't wake up after suspend, so i'm in acpi-support trying to get it to wake the card up [07:51] superm1: is that script going to read the firmware dependencies the same way that modinfo does? === pepsiman [n=malcolm@host86-148-212-20.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:51] seabag, if you type 'dmesg | tac | sed -n '/=\ \ END INIT IVTV\ \ =/,/= START INIT IVTV =/p;/= START INIT IVTV =/q' | tac' in a terminal you will get the information i'm referring to [07:51] without the starting and ending ' of course [07:51] mkrufky, well it was going to be initially just against a db of known firmware [07:52] and in acpi-support i should separate them like this? MODULES= "ivtv","saa", "foo" [07:52] starting from get_dvb_firmware, and other things not listed i nit [07:52] keescook: how can I find the cause of bug 97599? [07:52] Launchpad bug 97599 in mythplugins "MythWeb sessions no longer working" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97599 [07:52] seabag, in acpi-source it would be like this MODULES=" ivtv saa7134 " etc [07:52] superm1: the page you pointed me to says that it's going to look for required firmware based on subsystem id [07:52] ohh gotcha. i tried "foo, bar" and that didn't work... ok [07:53]