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=== Topic for #ubuntu-ops: Welcome to the home of the operators of all Ubuntu (and derivatives) channels | This channel is for operator/abuse questions only | Support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | IRC team info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam | The IRC council reserves the right to remove idlers from the channel
=== Topic (#ubuntu-ops): set by Hobbsee at Sun Jul 15 18:07:02 2007
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Hobbsee*** anyone interested in doing some cd testing? ***08:24
mneptokuh.08:34
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elkbuntuHobbsee, link? im about to re-setup my desktop, so i might as well waste an hour in the middle of that09:26
Hobbseeelkbuntu: https://isotesting.stgraber.org/isotesting/build/All09:27
elkbunturight after i waste an hour on putting the windows partition back on there, should be plenty of time for download ;)09:27
elkbuntuHobbsee, which one gets the least testing usually?09:29
Hobbseeelkbuntu: edubuntu09:30
elkbuntuheh, seems to be doing ok today09:30
Hobbseeseems that there's no testing there at all, last i checked09:32
elkbuntudownload info Edubuntu Desktop i386 (20070717.1)  2/5 (4) (1)09:32
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elkbuntuand what's the diff between the dated ones and the 'tribe 3' ones?09:34
Hobbseeelkbuntu: oh nice, so some peopl eahve started testing it09:34
Hobbseeelkbuntu: probably daily builds09:35
Hobbseeas in, the latest daily build is the one you want, as that will become tribe 3, if it all works09:35
elkbuntuyeah, there deosnt seem to be doubleup, just no consistancy with the 'version'09:36
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Hobbseei'm testing that out at the moment, but go ahead09:37
Hobbseei was planning to do a full disk erase09:37
Hobbseeonly some of them got respun09:38
elkbuntuim going to be putting 'doze on first, so i'll be testing a theoretical 'migration' environment09:38
Hobbseecool :)09:41
Hobbseeelkbuntu: i dont suppose you're testing the cd yet?10:10
Hobbseeyou're still doing10:11
Hobbsee'doze?10:11
elkbuntuHobbsee, not testing yet, no10:11
Hobbseeright10:11
elkbuntuplaying with harddrive jumpers10:11
Hobbseeyummy10:11
elkbuntuyep. even yummier when you're trying to convince yourself that no, despite the fact you cant see them, it will be easier to do it blind than unplug everything10:11
elkbuntuHobbsee, why do you ask, anyway?10:12
Hobbseeelkbuntu: just wondering how many people reduce this bug10:12
Hobbseehaha, indeed10:12
elkbuntureduce this bug?10:12
elkbuntuoh, reproduce/10:13
Hobbseeer, re*pro*duce this bug10:13
elkbuntu?10:13
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elkbuntutrying to figure out if i should really be bothering with the jumpering10:15
=== elkbuntu gives up on jumpering because she cant be arsed pulling the machine apart to see the model # or jumper settings
elkbuntuoh you stupid recovery system10:25
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elkbuntuyes, i will be jumpering. stupid compaq recovery system10:40
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Hobbseeelkbuntu: okay, dont bother12:15
elkbuntuHobbsee, i've gotta set my machine back up anyway12:15
Hobbseepoint12:15
Hobbseethey're getting respin - esound is broken12:15
elkbuntuha12:15
elkbuntuHobbsee, on all disks or just the ubuntu ones?12:17
Hobbseeubuntu and edubuntu12:17
elkbuntueta?12:17
Hobbseefew hours12:23
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PriceChildAre we under attack again?02:20
PriceChildHobbsee, you again? :P02:21
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HobbseePriceChild: hm?  no02:28
PriceChildWell we are +r....02:28
PriceChildand have 136 people in -unregged....02:29
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PriceChildah02:30
PriceChildnumist set it at 5:32 UTC and never -r'd it02:30
elkbuntuwhy do we have ops that dont hang in here? it makes it harder to debug these situations03:37
Hobbseebecause we removed them?  :P03:37
PriceChildelkbuntu, numist is freenode staff and reacted when none of us were around.03:38
elkbuntuah03:38
elkbuntustaffers should hang out in here too then03:38
PriceChildhehe03:38
elkbuntuim serious though. it's hard to use this as a communication channel if relevant people are not in here03:39
elkbuntuespecially since i'd prefer to do the staff factoid in here to avoid it getting to the level of misuse ops gets03:40
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superm1Hi guys, who would I bug to get a channel redirect activated?05:55
Hobbseejussi01: headdesk06:01
jussi01Hobbsee: ? ok, what did I say.... (me is tired...)06:02
Hobbseejussi01: no, not you.  at the guy in +106:02
jussi01hehe, yeah...06:02
elkbuntuare you serious? <b-tommy> i have no glue, waht i must do and how i can make ist06:03
Hobbseeyeah06:04
Hobbseethat one06:04
mc44give him some glue then06:04
elkbuntuthat comment alone im going to nominate him for idiot troll of the evening06:04
elkbuntubecause i refuse to believe that he is actually serious06:04
elkbuntudoing so would snap the last shred of faith i have in people06:05
Hobbseehahaha06:05
PriceChildsuperm1, the "channel contact" of the channel you want people redirected from...06:09
PriceChildsuperm1, what channel is it?06:09
superm1PriceChild, I just msged freenode staff about it.  I'm channel contact, but wasn't sure how to redirect people06:10
superm1Thx :)06:10
PriceChildSo all is sorted now?06:10
superm1in process right now06:10
PriceChildgood good :)06:10
elkbuntu<dvs01> heh, with beryl enabled, vnc is using up 1.8MB/s of bandwidth <-- no kidding06:12
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naliothsuperm1: did you get sorted?06:20
superm1nalioth, PhilKC  joined the channel, and said "One Moment :)" and hasn't gotten back to me since then06:21
naliothsuperm1: what was your question?06:24
nixternalhis question was...do you have more beer? :p06:24
superm1nalioth, we were trying to get #mythbuntu to redirect to #ubuntu-mythtv06:24
nalioth superm1 type /msg chanserv set #mythbuntu mlock +mif #ubuntu-mythtv <enter>06:25
superm1Chanserv told me that #mythbuntu isn't registered yet.06:26
naliothaha06:26
superm1we've had people going there for support questions though.06:26
naliothsuperm1: join #mythbuntu please06:27
superm1nalioth, it appears to be redirecting now :)06:28
naliothsuperm1: hav fun06:29
superm1thx nalioth06:29
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mneptoknalioth: ping06:40
naliothmneptok: clank06:40
mneptoknalioth: do you have privs to get the supybots into new channels?06:41
naliothi can put ubot3 anywhere you like06:41
naliothand ubotwo06:41
naliothif ubotwo is here06:41
mneptoknalioth: does ubot3 do LP bug # lookups?06:41
naliothmneptok: i'm not sure  :(06:41
mneptok12:42 -!- ubot3: No such nick/channel06:42
mneptokno ubotwo, either06:42
naliothmneptok: i have to summon the little demon06:42
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mneptokbug 106:45
PriceChild#106:45
mneptokhmm, does it in /m but not on-channel06:45
PriceChildah yes its in the options to enable it, i remember seveas doing it...06:46
PriceChild@admin something..06:46
naliothmneptok: oh, he's quieted here06:46
PriceChildhehe or that06:46
naliothmneptok: so he doesn't double stuff us with factoid goodness06:46
mneptokk06:49
mneptoknalioth: could you drop him in #storm please?06:50
mneptok(by request of radix and the other Storm devs)06:50
naliothwhat is #storm?06:51
Hobbseenalioth: python thing from canonical06:52
naliothah06:52
mneptoknalioth: Canonical sponsored FLOSS Python library.06:52
naliothmneptok: welcome it06:53
naliothotw he'll have hurt feelings  :D06:53
mneptoknalioth: i did. before you asked. remember, i'm *way* lamer than you.06:54
mneptok:)06:54
mneptoknalioth: thanks from the Storm guys07:06
mneptok12:57 < radix> mneptok: sweet, thank you very much07:07
mneptok12:57 < mneptok> nalioth gets all the credit for ubot3. and the blame if necessary. :)07:07
mneptokO:)07:07
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mc44yay for not bricking my harddisk09:04
mc44er, wrong channel :)09:04
Tm_Phah09:29
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ompaulyou come in shouting about avoiding a ban09:30
ompaulwhat did you expect?09:30
ompaulseriously09:30
osxdude|desktopnalioth: my away script on the fritz is, well, not on the fritz anymore...09:30
ompauland you were told yesterday several times to turn off your away script09:30
ompaulso that bought you a mute09:30
ompaulthen you join with two clients09:31
ompaulosxdude|desktop, did you ever think that your actions might actually annoy someone?09:31
ompauljoining with two nicks09:31
ompaulosxdude|desktop, ?09:32
osxdude|desktopompaul: It hasn't annoyed anyone. Yet. Nobody really cares anyawy.09:32
ompaulit did09:32
osxdude|desktop*anyway09:32
ompaulI was about to ban you09:32
ompaulcos it looks like ban  avoidance09:33
naliothespecially the "it didn't work" part09:33
osxdude|desktopit is not ban avoidance...09:33
ompaulosxdude|desktop, put yourself in someone else's shoes09:34
ompauland look at it as if you were one of us, what does your conversation look like?09:34
ompaulit looks like "taunt taunt taunt"09:34
naliothyour 'malfuncting /away script' was perceived in the same way09:35
ompaulwhich in irc terms might be classed as not a good career move09:35
naliothit coincidentally responded to each request to disable it09:35
osxdude|desktopI was not taunting. I was stuck. In a bind.09:35
ompaul /quit is always an option09:36
osxdude|desktopNot knowing how to turn off announceing the away msg to all channels.09:36
ompauljoin a test channel on your own09:36
ompaulget out of active channels09:36
ompaulthat kind of behaviour is a fast track to not being on the server09:36
ompaulyou got muted for it - people care09:37
ompaulin particular where there are over a thousand nicks09:37
ompaulyou are making a lot more noise to the normal interaction of most users09:38
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ompaulso your N2S ratio gets you the kind of attention you don't want09:38
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osxdude|desktopI get it now...I really do.09:38
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ompaulmight be cold by the time it got here :)09:39
ompaulso (a) get a shorter nick09:39
ompauland if you want to know which machine you are on why not have osxdude and osxduded09:39
ompaulthe first one for the lappy and the other for the desktop09:40
naliothor better yet, run irssi in a screen session on your desktop and ssh into it from your laptop or phone, or anywhere else09:40
ompaulnow there is a clever use of technology09:41
ompaul(b) tell us what to do with you09:41
ompaulso we should do nothing09:42
ompaulhmmm09:42
osxdude|desktopI'm still thinking09:43
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osxdude|deskis that better?09:45
ompaulit still looks too long but it is an improvement09:46
ompaulbut what should we do with you09:46
osxdude|deskI'll let you choose09:47
Tm_Pnalioth: like me?09:49
naliothTm_P: no, i despise you  :P09:49
Tm_Phaha09:50
Tm_P240 nalioth>or better yet, run irssi in a screen session on your desktop and ssh into it from your laptop or phone, or anywhere else09:51
Tm_Pthat i meant09:51
naliothTm_P: OH! that  :D09:51
Tm_Pnot fun to copypaste with stylus btw09:51
ompaulTm_P, so no iphone for you, but then you could not run kde on it if you had it :)09:52
osxdude|deskyou know what the problem is?09:53
osxdude|desknobody ever cared that my name was "osxdude|desktop." nobody ever cared that I was signed in twice09:53
Tm_Posxdude|desk: im signed in 3 times now09:54
PriceChildosxdude|desk, until you drew too much attention to yourself over the away script09:54
Tm_Pthat in two networks09:54
osxdude|deskyeah...but the away script is fixed09:55
Tm_Pompaul: why would i like to have an iphone?09:55
ompaulTm_P, you would not09:55
Tm_Pexactly09:55
ompaulTm_P, I read about a guy who returned his on the monday after they were released09:55
ompauland found out he was the first person by a long shot09:55
nalioththe new iPods are gonna be the same as the iPhone (just no calling capability)09:56
Tm_Pyuk09:58
osxdude|deskpricechild exactly. and now it is fixed09:59
Tm_Ptm-travolta.net/pics/ipaq/putty-1.jpg <-bad quality photo from t is conversation10:00
Tm_Pgaaah10:00
Tm_Pipaq-putty-1.jpg i mean10:00
Tm_Phmh, maybe I should use c&p afterall10:01
osxdude|deskum hello?10:03
PriceChildHey osxdude|desk.10:03
osxdude|deski'm still banned10:04
Tm_P(:10:04
PriceChildosxdude|desk, One of the big things you've got to realise, is that these things on their own don't mean much, its when many users build it up together that it becomes a problem10:04
osxdude|deskahh I see.10:04
Tm_P(:)10:06
PriceChild*hopes that comes across as he meant it*10:08
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ompaulwho knows10:22
ompaulcheck his previous quits in your logs10:22
PriceChildas in I hope my message came across as I meant it.10:22
ompaulI think it might have10:26
ompaulhe had come to my notice before this10:27
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alindemanImcoming bots maybe11:22
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osxdude|deskokay it's been long enough. my away script likes me now12:00
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osxdude|deskhello? lerum| can you see me talking12:02
lerum|who are you?12:02
osxdude|deskthat's a yes...12:03
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osxdude|deskYou know what you should do with me? Nothing12:03
Tm_Phm?12:09
Amaranthompaul: i thought just a kick would be enough to reset their buffer12:11
ompaulI am trying to talk with him12:11

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