[08:24] <Hobbsee> *** anyone interested in doing some cd testing? ***
[08:34] <mneptok> uh.
[09:26] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, link? im about to re-setup my desktop, so i might as well waste an hour in the middle of that
[09:27] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: https://isotesting.stgraber.org/isotesting/build/All
[09:27] <elkbuntu> right after i waste an hour on putting the windows partition back on there, should be plenty of time for download ;)
[09:29] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, which one gets the least testing usually?
[09:30] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: edubuntu
[09:30] <elkbuntu> heh, seems to be doing ok today
[09:32] <Hobbsee> seems that there's no testing there at all, last i checked
[09:32] <elkbuntu> download info Edubuntu Desktop i386 (20070717.1)  	2/5 (4) (1)
[09:34] <elkbuntu> and what's the diff between the dated ones and the 'tribe 3' ones?
[09:34] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: oh nice, so some peopl eahve started testing it
[09:35] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: probably daily builds
[09:35] <Hobbsee> as in, the latest daily build is the one you want, as that will become tribe 3, if it all works
[09:36] <elkbuntu> yeah, there deosnt seem to be doubleup, just no consistancy with the 'version'
[09:37] <Hobbsee> i'm testing that out at the moment, but go ahead
[09:37] <Hobbsee> i was planning to do a full disk erase
[09:38] <Hobbsee> only some of them got respun
[09:38] <elkbuntu> im going to be putting 'doze on first, so i'll be testing a theoretical 'migration' environment
[09:41] <Hobbsee> cool :)
[10:10] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: i dont suppose you're testing the cd yet?
[10:11] <Hobbsee> you're still doing
[10:11] <Hobbsee> 'doze?
[10:11] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, not testing yet, no
[10:11] <Hobbsee> right
[10:11] <elkbuntu> playing with harddrive jumpers
[10:11] <Hobbsee> yummy
[10:11] <elkbuntu> yep. even yummier when you're trying to convince yourself that no, despite the fact you cant see them, it will be easier to do it blind than unplug everything
[10:12] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, why do you ask, anyway?
[10:12] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: just wondering how many people reduce this bug
[10:12] <Hobbsee> haha, indeed
[10:12] <elkbuntu> reduce this bug?
[10:13] <elkbuntu> oh, reproduce/
[10:13] <Hobbsee> er, re*pro*duce this bug
[10:13] <elkbuntu> ?
[10:15] <elkbuntu> trying to figure out if i should really be bothering with the jumpering
[10:25] <elkbuntu> oh you stupid recovery system
[10:40] <elkbuntu> yes, i will be jumpering. stupid compaq recovery system
[12:15] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: okay, dont bother
[12:15] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, i've gotta set my machine back up anyway
[12:15] <Hobbsee> point
[12:15] <Hobbsee> they're getting respin - esound is broken
[12:15] <elkbuntu> ha
[12:17] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, on all disks or just the ubuntu ones?
[12:17] <Hobbsee> ubuntu and edubuntu
[12:17] <elkbuntu> eta?
[12:23] <Hobbsee> few hours
[02:20] <PriceChild> Are we under attack again?
[02:21] <PriceChild> Hobbsee, you again? :P
[02:28] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: hm?  no
[02:28] <PriceChild> Well we are +r....
[02:29] <PriceChild> and have 136 people in -unregged....
[02:30] <PriceChild> ah
[02:30] <PriceChild> numist set it at 5:32 UTC and never -r'd it
[03:37] <elkbuntu> why do we have ops that dont hang in here? it makes it harder to debug these situations
[03:37] <Hobbsee> because we removed them?  :P
[03:38] <PriceChild> elkbuntu, numist is freenode staff and reacted when none of us were around.
[03:38] <elkbuntu> ah
[03:38] <elkbuntu> staffers should hang out in here too then
[03:38] <PriceChild> hehe
[03:39] <elkbuntu> im serious though. it's hard to use this as a communication channel if relevant people are not in here
[03:40] <elkbuntu> especially since i'd prefer to do the staff factoid in here to avoid it getting to the level of misuse ops gets
[05:55] <superm1> Hi guys, who would I bug to get a channel redirect activated?
[06:01] <Hobbsee> jussi01: headdesk
[06:02] <jussi01> Hobbsee: ? ok, what did I say.... (me is tired...)
[06:02] <Hobbsee> jussi01: no, not you.  at the guy in +1
[06:02] <jussi01> hehe, yeah...
[06:03] <elkbuntu> are you serious? <b-tommy> i have no glue, waht i must do and how i can make ist
[06:04] <Hobbsee> yeah
[06:04] <Hobbsee> that one
[06:04] <mc44> give him some glue then
[06:04] <elkbuntu> that comment alone im going to nominate him for idiot troll of the evening
[06:04] <elkbuntu> because i refuse to believe that he is actually serious
[06:05] <elkbuntu> doing so would snap the last shred of faith i have in people
[06:05] <Hobbsee> hahaha
[06:09] <PriceChild> superm1, the "channel contact" of the channel you want people redirected from...
[06:09] <PriceChild> superm1, what channel is it?
[06:10] <superm1> PriceChild, I just msged freenode staff about it.  I'm channel contact, but wasn't sure how to redirect people
[06:10] <superm1> Thx :)
[06:10] <PriceChild> So all is sorted now?
[06:10] <superm1> in process right now
[06:10] <PriceChild> good good :)
 heh, with beryl enabled, vnc is using up 1.8MB/s of bandwidth <-- no kidding
[06:20] <nalioth> superm1: did you get sorted?
[06:21] <superm1> nalioth, PhilKC  joined the channel, and said "One Moment :)" and hasn't gotten back to me since then
[06:24] <nalioth> superm1: what was your question?
[06:24] <nixternal> his question was...do you have more beer? :p
[06:24] <superm1> nalioth, we were trying to get #mythbuntu to redirect to #ubuntu-mythtv
[06:25] <nalioth>  superm1 type /msg chanserv set #mythbuntu mlock +mif #ubuntu-mythtv <enter>
[06:26] <superm1> Chanserv told me that #mythbuntu isn't registered yet.
[06:26] <nalioth> aha
[06:26] <superm1> we've had people going there for support questions though.
[06:27] <nalioth> superm1: join #mythbuntu please
[06:28] <superm1> nalioth, it appears to be redirecting now :)
[06:29] <nalioth> superm1: hav fun
[06:29] <superm1> thx nalioth
[06:40] <mneptok> nalioth: ping
[06:40] <nalioth> mneptok: clank
[06:41] <mneptok> nalioth: do you have privs to get the supybots into new channels?
[06:41] <nalioth> i can put ubot3 anywhere you like
[06:41] <nalioth> and ubotwo
[06:41] <nalioth> if ubotwo is here
[06:41] <mneptok> nalioth: does ubot3 do LP bug # lookups?
[06:41] <nalioth> mneptok: i'm not sure  :(
[06:42] <mneptok> 12:42 -!- ubot3: No such nick/channel
[06:42] <mneptok> no ubotwo, either
[06:42] <nalioth> mneptok: i have to summon the little demon
[06:45] <mneptok> bug 1
[06:45] <PriceChild> #1
[06:45] <mneptok> hmm, does it in /m but not on-channel
[06:46] <PriceChild> ah yes its in the options to enable it, i remember seveas doing it...
[06:46] <PriceChild> @admin something..
[06:46] <nalioth> mneptok: oh, he's quieted here
[06:46] <PriceChild> hehe or that
[06:46] <nalioth> mneptok: so he doesn't double stuff us with factoid goodness
[06:49] <mneptok> k
[06:50] <mneptok> nalioth: could you drop him in #storm please?
[06:50] <mneptok> (by request of radix and the other Storm devs)
[06:51] <nalioth> what is #storm?
[06:52] <Hobbsee> nalioth: python thing from canonical
[06:52] <nalioth> ah
[06:52] <mneptok> nalioth: Canonical sponsored FLOSS Python library.
[06:53] <nalioth> mneptok: welcome it
[06:53] <nalioth> otw he'll have hurt feelings  :D
[06:54] <mneptok> nalioth: i did. before you asked. remember, i'm *way* lamer than you.
[06:54] <mneptok> :)
[07:06] <mneptok> nalioth: thanks from the Storm guys
[07:07] <mneptok> 12:57 < radix> mneptok: sweet, thank you very much
[07:07] <mneptok> 12:57 < mneptok> nalioth gets all the credit for ubot3. and the blame if necessary. :)
[07:07] <mneptok> O:)
[09:04] <mc44> yay for not bricking my harddisk
[09:04] <mc44> er, wrong channel :)
[09:29] <Tm_P> hah
[09:30] <ompaul> you come in shouting about avoiding a ban
[09:30] <ompaul> what did you expect?
[09:30] <ompaul> seriously
[09:30] <osxdude|desktop> nalioth: my away script on the fritz is, well, not on the fritz anymore...
[09:30] <ompaul> and you were told yesterday several times to turn off your away script
[09:30] <ompaul> so that bought you a mute
[09:31] <ompaul> then you join with two clients
[09:31] <ompaul> osxdude|desktop, did you ever think that your actions might actually annoy someone?
[09:31] <ompaul> joining with two nicks
[09:32] <ompaul> osxdude|desktop, ?
[09:32] <osxdude|desktop> ompaul: It hasn't annoyed anyone. Yet. Nobody really cares anyawy.
[09:32] <ompaul> it did
[09:32] <osxdude|desktop> *anyway
[09:32] <ompaul> I was about to ban you
[09:33] <ompaul> cos it looks like ban  avoidance
[09:33] <nalioth> especially the "it didn't work" part
[09:33] <osxdude|desktop> it is not ban avoidance...
[09:34] <ompaul> osxdude|desktop, put yourself in someone else's shoes
[09:34] <ompaul> and look at it as if you were one of us, what does your conversation look like?
[09:34] <ompaul> it looks like "taunt taunt taunt"
[09:35] <nalioth> your 'malfuncting /away script' was perceived in the same way
[09:35] <ompaul> which in irc terms might be classed as not a good career move
[09:35] <nalioth> it coincidentally responded to each request to disable it
[09:35] <osxdude|desktop> I was not taunting. I was stuck. In a bind.
[09:36] <ompaul>  /quit is always an option
[09:36] <osxdude|desktop> Not knowing how to turn off announceing the away msg to all channels.
[09:36] <ompaul> join a test channel on your own
[09:36] <ompaul> get out of active channels
[09:36] <ompaul> that kind of behaviour is a fast track to not being on the server
[09:37] <ompaul> you got muted for it - people care
[09:37] <ompaul> in particular where there are over a thousand nicks
[09:38] <ompaul> you are making a lot more noise to the normal interaction of most users
[09:38] <ompaul> so your N2S ratio gets you the kind of attention you don't want
[09:38] <osxdude|desktop> I get it now...I really do.
[09:39] <ompaul> might be cold by the time it got here :)
[09:39] <ompaul> so (a) get a shorter nick
[09:39] <ompaul> and if you want to know which machine you are on why not have osxdude and osxduded
[09:40] <ompaul> the first one for the lappy and the other for the desktop
[09:40] <nalioth> or better yet, run irssi in a screen session on your desktop and ssh into it from your laptop or phone, or anywhere else
[09:41] <ompaul> now there is a clever use of technology
[09:41] <ompaul> (b) tell us what to do with you
[09:42] <ompaul> so we should do nothing
[09:42] <ompaul> hmmm
[09:43] <osxdude|desktop> I'm still thinking
[09:45] <osxdude|desk> is that better?
[09:46] <ompaul> it still looks too long but it is an improvement
[09:46] <ompaul> but what should we do with you
[09:47] <osxdude|desk> I'll let you choose
[09:49] <Tm_P> nalioth: like me?
[09:49] <nalioth> Tm_P: no, i despise you  :P
[09:50] <Tm_P> haha
[09:51] <Tm_P> 240 nalioth>or better yet, run irssi in a screen session on your desktop and ssh into it from your laptop or phone, or anywhere else
[09:51] <Tm_P> that i meant
[09:51] <nalioth> Tm_P: OH! that  :D
[09:51] <Tm_P> not fun to copypaste with stylus btw
[09:52] <ompaul> Tm_P, so no iphone for you, but then you could not run kde on it if you had it :)
[09:53] <osxdude|desk> you know what the problem is?
[09:53] <osxdude|desk> nobody ever cared that my name was "osxdude|desktop." nobody ever cared that I was signed in twice
[09:54] <Tm_P> osxdude|desk: im signed in 3 times now
[09:54] <PriceChild> osxdude|desk, until you drew too much attention to yourself over the away script
[09:54] <Tm_P> that in two networks
[09:55] <osxdude|desk> yeah...but the away script is fixed
[09:55] <Tm_P> ompaul: why would i like to have an iphone?
[09:55] <ompaul> Tm_P, you would not
[09:55] <Tm_P> exactly
[09:55] <ompaul> Tm_P, I read about a guy who returned his on the monday after they were released
[09:55] <ompaul> and found out he was the first person by a long shot
[09:56] <nalioth> the new iPods are gonna be the same as the iPhone (just no calling capability)
[09:58] <Tm_P> yuk
[09:59] <osxdude|desk> pricechild exactly. and now it is fixed
[10:00] <Tm_P> tm-travolta.net/pics/ipaq/putty-1.jpg <-bad quality photo from t is conversation
[10:00] <Tm_P> gaaah
[10:00] <Tm_P> ipaq-putty-1.jpg i mean
[10:01] <Tm_P> hmh, maybe I should use c&p afterall
[10:03] <osxdude|desk> um hello?
[10:03] <PriceChild> Hey osxdude|desk.
[10:04] <osxdude|desk> i'm still banned
[10:04] <Tm_P> (:
[10:04] <PriceChild> osxdude|desk, One of the big things you've got to realise, is that these things on their own don't mean much, its when many users build it up together that it becomes a problem
[10:04] <osxdude|desk> ahh I see.
[10:06] <Tm_P> (:)
[10:08] <PriceChild> *hopes that comes across as he meant it*
[10:22] <ompaul> who knows
[10:22] <ompaul> check his previous quits in your logs
[10:22] <PriceChild> as in I hope my message came across as I meant it.
[10:26] <ompaul> I think it might have
[10:27] <ompaul> he had come to my notice before this
[11:22] <alindeman> Imcoming bots maybe
[12:00] <osxdude|desk> okay it's been long enough. my away script likes me now
[12:02] <osxdude|desk> hello? lerum| can you see me talking
[12:02] <lerum|> who are you?
[12:03] <osxdude|desk> that's a yes...
[12:03] <osxdude|desk> You know what you should do with me? Nothing
[12:09] <Tm_P> hm?
[12:11] <Amaranth> ompaul: i thought just a kick would be enough to reset their buffer
[12:11] <ompaul> I am trying to talk with him