=== Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-ops.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Topic for #ubuntu-ops: Welcome to the home of the operators of all Ubuntu (and derivatives) channels | This channel is for operator/abuse questions only | Support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | IRC team info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam | The IRC council reserves the right to remove idlers from the channel === Topic (#ubuntu-ops): set by Hobbsee at Sun Jul 15 18:07:02 2007 === phos-phoros [n=donovan@unaffiliated/phos-phoros] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Madpilot] by ChanServ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [08:24] *** anyone interested in doing some cd testing? *** [08:34] uh. === GazzaK [n=Gary@colchester-lug/pdpc.supporter.active.GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops [09:26] Hobbsee, link? im about to re-setup my desktop, so i might as well waste an hour in the middle of that [09:27] elkbuntu: https://isotesting.stgraber.org/isotesting/build/All [09:27] right after i waste an hour on putting the windows partition back on there, should be plenty of time for download ;) [09:29] Hobbsee, which one gets the least testing usually? [09:30] elkbuntu: edubuntu [09:30] heh, seems to be doing ok today [09:32] seems that there's no testing there at all, last i checked [09:32] download info Edubuntu Desktop i386 (20070717.1) 2/5 (4) (1) === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v DBO] by ChanServ [09:34] and what's the diff between the dated ones and the 'tribe 3' ones? [09:34] elkbuntu: oh nice, so some peopl eahve started testing it [09:35] elkbuntu: probably daily builds [09:35] as in, the latest daily build is the one you want, as that will become tribe 3, if it all works [09:36] yeah, there deosnt seem to be doubleup, just no consistancy with the 'version' === elkbuntu plays with the ubuntu i386 because she cant be arsed messing around with edubuntu and all server and addon weirdness [09:37] i'm testing that out at the moment, but go ahead [09:37] i was planning to do a full disk erase [09:38] only some of them got respun [09:38] im going to be putting 'doze on first, so i'll be testing a theoretical 'migration' environment [09:41] cool :) [10:10] elkbuntu: i dont suppose you're testing the cd yet? [10:11] you're still doing [10:11] 'doze? [10:11] Hobbsee, not testing yet, no [10:11] right [10:11] playing with harddrive jumpers [10:11] yummy [10:11] yep. even yummier when you're trying to convince yourself that no, despite the fact you cant see them, it will be easier to do it blind than unplug everything [10:12] Hobbsee, why do you ask, anyway? [10:12] elkbuntu: just wondering how many people reduce this bug [10:12] haha, indeed [10:12] reduce this bug? [10:13] oh, reproduce/ [10:13] er, re*pro*duce this bug [10:13] ? === Hobbsee must be nervous or something [10:15] trying to figure out if i should really be bothering with the jumpering === elkbuntu gives up on jumpering because she cant be arsed pulling the machine apart to see the model # or jumper settings [10:25] oh you stupid recovery system === Seeker` [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [10:40] yes, i will be jumpering. stupid compaq recovery system === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee_] by ChanServ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v DBO] by ChanServ === jenrique [n=jenrique@83.230.207.204] has joined #ubuntu-ops [12:15] elkbuntu: okay, dont bother [12:15] Hobbsee, i've gotta set my machine back up anyway [12:15] point [12:15] they're getting respin - esound is broken [12:15] ha [12:17] Hobbsee, on all disks or just the ubuntu ones? [12:17] ubuntu and edubuntu [12:17] eta? [12:23] few hours === GazzaK [n=Gary@colchester-lug/pdpc.supporter.active.GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ === luci [n=luci@83.230.207.212] has joined #ubuntu-ops === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ [02:20] Are we under attack again? [02:21] Hobbsee, you again? :P === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jrib] by ChanServ [02:28] PriceChild: hm? no [02:28] Well we are +r.... [02:29] and have 136 people in -unregged.... === Hobbsee hasnt been looking [02:30] ah [02:30] numist set it at 5:32 UTC and never -r'd it [03:37] why do we have ops that dont hang in here? it makes it harder to debug these situations [03:37] because we removed them? :P [03:38] elkbuntu, numist is freenode staff and reacted when none of us were around. [03:38] ah [03:38] staffers should hang out in here too then [03:38] hehe [03:39] im serious though. it's hard to use this as a communication channel if relevant people are not in here [03:40] especially since i'd prefer to do the staff factoid in here to avoid it getting to the level of misuse ops gets === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ === GazzaK_ [n=Gary@colchester-lug/pdpc.supporter.active.GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has left #ubuntu-ops [] === seanw [i=greece@freenode/staff/wikimedia.sean-whitton] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v seanw] by ChanServ === phos-phoros [n=donovan@unaffiliated/phos-phoros] has joined #ubuntu-ops === seanw [n=swhitton@freenode/staff/wikimedia.sean-whitton] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v seanw] by ChanServ === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v nixternal] by ChanServ === Tm_P [i=tm_travo@kde/developer/jkekkonen] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Tm_P] by ChanServ === seanw [n=swhitton@freenode/staff/wikimedia.sean-whitton] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v seanw] by ChanServ === seanw [i=swhitton@freenode/staff/wikimedia.sean-whitton] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v seanw] by ChanServ === superm1 [i=malimonc@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:55] Hi guys, who would I bug to get a channel redirect activated? [06:01] jussi01: headdesk [06:02] Hobbsee: ? ok, what did I say.... (me is tired...) [06:02] jussi01: no, not you. at the guy in +1 [06:02] hehe, yeah... [06:03] are you serious? i have no glue, waht i must do and how i can make ist [06:04] yeah [06:04] that one [06:04] give him some glue then [06:04] that comment alone im going to nominate him for idiot troll of the evening [06:04] because i refuse to believe that he is actually serious [06:05] doing so would snap the last shred of faith i have in people [06:05] hahaha [06:09] superm1, the "channel contact" of the channel you want people redirected from... [06:09] superm1, what channel is it? [06:10] PriceChild, I just msged freenode staff about it. I'm channel contact, but wasn't sure how to redirect people [06:10] Thx :) [06:10] So all is sorted now? [06:10] in process right now [06:10] good good :) [06:12] heh, with beryl enabled, vnc is using up 1.8MB/s of bandwidth <-- no kidding === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [06:20] superm1: did you get sorted? [06:21] nalioth, PhilKC joined the channel, and said "One Moment :)" and hasn't gotten back to me since then [06:24] superm1: what was your question? [06:24] his question was...do you have more beer? :p [06:24] nalioth, we were trying to get #mythbuntu to redirect to #ubuntu-mythtv [06:25] superm1 type /msg chanserv set #mythbuntu mlock +mif #ubuntu-mythtv [06:26] Chanserv told me that #mythbuntu isn't registered yet. [06:26] aha [06:26] we've had people going there for support questions though. [06:27] superm1: join #mythbuntu please [06:28] nalioth, it appears to be redirecting now :) [06:29] superm1: hav fun [06:29] thx nalioth === superm1 [i=malimonc@ubuntu/member/superm1] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] [06:40] nalioth: ping [06:40] mneptok: clank [06:41] nalioth: do you have privs to get the supybots into new channels? [06:41] i can put ubot3 anywhere you like [06:41] and ubotwo [06:41] if ubotwo is here [06:41] nalioth: does ubot3 do LP bug # lookups? [06:41] mneptok: i'm not sure :( [06:42] 12:42 -!- ubot3: No such nick/channel [06:42] no ubotwo, either [06:42] mneptok: i have to summon the little demon === nalioth dances around his keyboard === ubot3 [n=ubot3@unaffiliated/nalioth/bot/ubot3] has joined #ubuntu-ops [06:45] bug 1 [06:45] #1 [06:45] hmm, does it in /m but not on-channel [06:46] ah yes its in the options to enable it, i remember seveas doing it... [06:46] @admin something.. [06:46] mneptok: oh, he's quieted here [06:46] hehe or that [06:46] mneptok: so he doesn't double stuff us with factoid goodness [06:49] k [06:50] nalioth: could you drop him in #storm please? [06:50] (by request of radix and the other Storm devs) [06:51] what is #storm? [06:52] nalioth: python thing from canonical [06:52] ah [06:52] nalioth: Canonical sponsored FLOSS Python library. [06:53] mneptok: welcome it [06:53] otw he'll have hurt feelings :D [06:54] nalioth: i did. before you asked. remember, i'm *way* lamer than you. [06:54] :) [07:06] nalioth: thanks from the Storm guys [07:07] 12:57 < radix> mneptok: sweet, thank you very much [07:07] 12:57 < mneptok> nalioth gets all the credit for ubot3. and the blame if necessary. :) [07:07] O:) === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops === valles_ [n=valles@190.37.168.189] has joined #ubuntu-ops === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v ompaul] by ChanServ === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops === CheshireViking [n=Interdic@unaffiliated/cheshireviking] has joined #ubuntu-ops === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-ops [09:04] yay for not bricking my harddisk [09:04] er, wrong channel :) [09:29] hah === osxdude|desktop [n=osxdude@adsl-76-238-90-152.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [09:30] you come in shouting about avoiding a ban [09:30] what did you expect? [09:30] seriously [09:30] nalioth: my away script on the fritz is, well, not on the fritz anymore... [09:30] and you were told yesterday several times to turn off your away script [09:30] so that bought you a mute [09:31] then you join with two clients [09:31] osxdude|desktop, did you ever think that your actions might actually annoy someone? [09:31] joining with two nicks [09:32] osxdude|desktop, ? [09:32] ompaul: It hasn't annoyed anyone. Yet. Nobody really cares anyawy. [09:32] it did [09:32] *anyway [09:32] I was about to ban you [09:33] cos it looks like ban avoidance [09:33] especially the "it didn't work" part [09:33] it is not ban avoidance... [09:34] osxdude|desktop, put yourself in someone else's shoes [09:34] and look at it as if you were one of us, what does your conversation look like? [09:34] it looks like "taunt taunt taunt" [09:35] your 'malfuncting /away script' was perceived in the same way [09:35] which in irc terms might be classed as not a good career move [09:35] it coincidentally responded to each request to disable it [09:35] I was not taunting. I was stuck. In a bind. [09:36] /quit is always an option [09:36] Not knowing how to turn off announceing the away msg to all channels. [09:36] join a test channel on your own [09:36] get out of active channels [09:36] that kind of behaviour is a fast track to not being on the server [09:37] you got muted for it - people care [09:37] in particular where there are over a thousand nicks [09:38] you are making a lot more noise to the normal interaction of most users === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-ops [09:38] so your N2S ratio gets you the kind of attention you don't want === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Amaranth] by ChanServ [09:38] I get it now...I really do. === ompaul wonders if Amaranth would buy me a coffee right now [09:39] might be cold by the time it got here :) [09:39] so (a) get a shorter nick [09:39] and if you want to know which machine you are on why not have osxdude and osxduded [09:40] the first one for the lappy and the other for the desktop [09:40] or better yet, run irssi in a screen session on your desktop and ssh into it from your laptop or phone, or anywhere else [09:41] now there is a clever use of technology [09:41] (b) tell us what to do with you [09:42] so we should do nothing [09:42] hmmm [09:43] I'm still thinking === osxdude|desktop is now known as osxdude|desk [09:45] is that better? [09:46] it still looks too long but it is an improvement [09:46] but what should we do with you [09:47] I'll let you choose [09:49] nalioth: like me? [09:49] Tm_P: no, i despise you :P [09:50] haha [09:51] 240 nalioth>or better yet, run irssi in a screen session on your desktop and ssh into it from your laptop or phone, or anywhere else [09:51] that i meant [09:51] Tm_P: OH! that :D [09:51] not fun to copypaste with stylus btw [09:52] Tm_P, so no iphone for you, but then you could not run kde on it if you had it :) [09:53] you know what the problem is? [09:53] nobody ever cared that my name was "osxdude|desktop." nobody ever cared that I was signed in twice [09:54] osxdude|desk: im signed in 3 times now [09:54] osxdude|desk, until you drew too much attention to yourself over the away script [09:54] that in two networks [09:55] yeah...but the away script is fixed [09:55] ompaul: why would i like to have an iphone? [09:55] Tm_P, you would not [09:55] exactly [09:55] Tm_P, I read about a guy who returned his on the monday after they were released [09:55] and found out he was the first person by a long shot [09:56] the new iPods are gonna be the same as the iPhone (just no calling capability) [09:58] yuk [09:59] pricechild exactly. and now it is fixed [10:00] tm-travolta.net/pics/ipaq/putty-1.jpg <-bad quality photo from t is conversation [10:00] gaaah [10:00] ipaq-putty-1.jpg i mean [10:01] hmh, maybe I should use c&p afterall [10:03] um hello? [10:03] Hey osxdude|desk. [10:04] i'm still banned [10:04] (: [10:04] osxdude|desk, One of the big things you've got to realise, is that these things on their own don't mean much, its when many users build it up together that it becomes a problem [10:04] ahh I see. [10:06] (:) [10:08] *hopes that comes across as he meant it* === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [10:22] who knows [10:22] check his previous quits in your logs [10:22] as in I hope my message came across as I meant it. [10:26] I think it might have [10:27] he had come to my notice before this === Seeker` [n=cjo20@81-6-246-136.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-ops === GazzaK [n=Gary@colchester-lug/pdpc.supporter.active.GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === nairoV [n=Steve@cpe-76-181-146-41.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Amaranth] by ChanServ === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Amaranth] by ChanServ === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v ompaul] by ChanServ === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Burgundavia] by ChanServ === rob1 [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v rob1] by ChanServ [11:22] Imcoming bots maybe === osxdude|desk [n=osxdude@adsl-76-238-90-152.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === tomaw [i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tomaw] by ChanServ === tomaw [i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tomaw] by ChanServ === osxdude|desk [n=osxdude@adsl-76-238-90-152.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu-ops ["I'm] === osxdude|desk [n=osxdude@adsl-76-238-90-152.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [12:00] okay it's been long enough. my away script likes me now === seanw [i=swhitton@freenode/staff/wikimedia.sean-whitton] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v seanw] by ChanServ === r3velati0n [n=Orly@213.40.250.221] has joined #ubuntu-ops === lerum| [n=lerum@cpc2-amer1-0-0-cust407.watf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops [12:02] hello? lerum| can you see me talking [12:02] who are you? [12:03] that's a yes... === lerum| [n=lerum@cpc2-amer1-0-0-cust407.watf.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] [12:03] You know what you should do with me? Nothing [12:09] hm? [12:11] ompaul: i thought just a kick would be enough to reset their buffer [12:11] I am trying to talk with him