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| Tophe1 | Hey, has anyone here used Edubuntu on an older Dell laptop? | 02:22 |
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| Tophe1 | No one...? Is anyone here who has had luck with Edubuntu on an older computer in general? | 02:23 |
| Tophe1 | I have an old Inspiron with 512 MB RAM and 2 GHz processor but it runs slowly and I'm not sure why. | 02:23 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | heh. thats stil new to me | 03:13 |
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| joebob777as7 | i can't figure out how to install wine on edubuntu... any ideas? it's not in the apt database | 04:00 |
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| sbalneav | Evening all | 04:31 |
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| Hobbsee | greetings all. edubuntu cds for tribe 3 need testing, preferably before we release it. the cds are at https://isotesting.stgraber.org/isotesting/build/Edubuntu | 06:04 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: around? | 08:23 |
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| scane | Hi. I am planning to use an old notebook with xubunut 7.04 to use as a client for edubuntu server 7.04 | 02:22 |
| scane | s/xubunut/xubuntu/ | 02:23 |
| scane | (the notebook pcmcia network card cannot pxe boot because it needs drivers loaded first) | 02:23 |
| scane | If I want to connect with X from the notebook to the server - is there a special way of config needed on the server? | 02:24 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | you need to allow x connections from remote hosts | 03:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not sure if feisty lets you do that though | 03:06 |
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| mcsd | can someone help ... I can't seem to find specs on this Dell E173FPc 17" monitor and my OS display looks like a tv without reception | 03:50 |
| mcsd | the image is sliced and stretched | 03:51 |
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| sbalneav_ | Morning all | 04:04 |
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| mcsd | can someone tell me how to refresh/reload gnome | 06:29 |
| sbalneav_ | mcsd: what do you mean, exactly? | 06:32 |
| mcsd | ctrl+alt+bksp reloads xorg but I forget the terminal command | 06:33 |
| mcsd | sudo /etc/gdm restart? | 06:33 |
| sbalneav_ | sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart | 06:33 |
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| mcsd | what is the init.d file? | 06:34 |
| sbalneav_ | /etc/init.d/gdm | 06:34 |
| mcsd | what is the difference between the two? | 06:34 |
| sbalneav_ | invoke-rc.d is the "proper" way to restart init files. | 06:35 |
| sbalneav_ | If they ever decide to move the init files from /etc/init.d, invoke-rc.d will be changed to know about that. | 06:35 |
| sbalneav_ | so, theoretically, it should work no matter where the init file is. | 06:35 |
| mcsd | ahhh so invoke-rc.d is similar to a script | 06:36 |
| sbalneav_ | invoke-rc.d is a script, yes. | 06:36 |
| sbalneav_ | that knows where the init scripts are, and calls them. | 06:36 |
| mcsd | sbalneav_: thank you | 06:38 |
| sbalneav_ | NP | 06:38 |
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| cbx33 | ping stgraber | 06:47 |
| stgraber | cbx33: pong | 06:49 |
| cbx33 | i see you're planning to rewrite tcm? | 06:54 |
| stgraber | cbx33: yes, I'm spending some of my free time working on another frontend to the python tcm module | 07:06 |
| cbx33 | ahhh | 07:07 |
| cbx33 | well i was interested in your idea to rewrite the VNC stuff | 07:07 |
| cbx33 | that was on my agenda | 07:07 |
| cbx33 | would you be interested in working on tcm as opposed to another front end? | 07:08 |
| stgraber | sure | 07:08 |
| cbx33 | My dev time is going to be reduced a little | 07:08 |
| cbx33 | and I've been hoping to find someone to collab with to make tcm even better | 07:09 |
| cbx33 | I would much prefer to work with someone on it | 07:09 |
| cbx33 | than someone to do all the work from scratch | 07:09 |
| stgraber | my VNC part is rather easy as I'm not using resized VNC window or any stuff like that but screenshots generated on the clients and store on the server | 07:09 |
| stgraber | then I simply show them as icon | 07:09 |
| cbx33 | yes | 07:09 |
| cbx33 | well | 07:09 |
| stgraber | and open vncviewer only when you double-click | 07:09 |
| cbx33 | that was the way I was going to implement it | 07:09 |
| cbx33 | how often are they updated? | 07:09 |
| stgraber | done every 5s and display refresh every 2s | 07:10 |
| cbx33 | i see | 07:10 |
| cbx33 | what's the CPU load on that | 07:10 |
| cbx33 | you're taking a full screenshot using?? | 07:10 |
| stgraber | I'd like to move the screenshot part to the clients themselves so with no load on the server | 07:11 |
| stgraber | scrot at the moment | 07:11 |
| cbx33 | i see | 07:11 |
| cbx33 | that was my plan | 07:11 |
| cbx33 | hence why i left it with vnc | 07:11 |
| stgraber | I can't really talk about the CPU usage of the GUI as I'm running it on my laptop which is a Core 2 Duo :), even with 100 clients simulated refreshed every 2s it never went over 1% of CPU :) | 07:12 |
| cbx33 | wow | 07:14 |
| cbx33 | so you resize the screen | 07:14 |
| cbx33 | or does scrot take small screenshots? | 07:14 |
| stgraber | and the thing I like the most with my GUI is the iconview part, being able to logout only a part of the class, or execute firefox for some of them, ... | 07:14 |
| stgraber | It took too much CPU load to resize after taking the screenshot, so I let gtk do that :) | 07:15 |
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| stgraber | but when it'll run on the clients, resizing on them could be a good idea | 07:15 |
| stgraber | to have an even lower CPU usage on the server | 07:15 |
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| cbx33 | hmmm | 07:16 |
| cbx33 | so where does gtk do the resizing? | 07:16 |
| cbx33 | you just set the icon to be X.png | 07:17 |
| cbx33 | and it resizes it? | 07:17 |
| cbx33 | automagically? | 07:17 |
| stgraber | lsIcon.append((gtk.gdk.pixbuf_new_from_file_at_size(path,128,128), "Client "+clientid+"\n<i>"+item[1] +"</i>",item[2] ,item[1] ,int(item[0] ))) | 07:17 |
| stgraber | creates an icon with "Client X", the username in italic below and the icon resized to 128x128 | 07:18 |
| stgraber | I just checked, with a 1680x1050 screenshot shown 32 times and refreshed every 2 seconds, it takes ~8% of one of my core | 07:19 |
| stgraber | I'll do the same test with 128x128 screenshot | 07:19 |
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| cbx33 | ok | 07:20 |
| cbx33 | I'm hoping to write a C based screen graber tightly integrated with X | 07:20 |
| stgraber | CPU usage is now ~4% | 07:22 |
| stgraber | CPU usage of 1.8% with refresh at 5s | 07:26 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: got a second? | 07:51 |
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| phitoo | Hello! I'm having a devil of time setting up etherboot on a CF card. The downloaded zhd image from ROM-O-MATIC just doesn't seem to work. | 08:27 |
| phitoo | I'm open to suggestions, if any? | 08:28 |
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| sbalneav_ | phitoo: CF card? A PCMCIA card? | 08:52 |
| phitoo | sbalneav: Compact Flash card. | 09:08 |
| phitoo | sbalneav: Should behave as a hard disk. | 09:09 |
| sbalneav_ | ah | 09:11 |
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| unix4me | how do I add another clef in Denemo? | 10:15 |
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| jaytux | exit | 10:21 |
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| jm1111 | Hello | 10:28 |
| jm1111 | Is there anyone here that could provide advice over which flavor of ubuntu to install on a server for a school that would promarily be running mysql for a student information system? | 10:29 |
| stgraber | if you don't need a gui, simply install ubuntu server | 10:29 |
| jm1111 | What if I would like a gui? | 10:29 |
| stgraber | then install any desktop flavour, but this will eat some memory for sure and add some possible vulnerabilities (on an intranet it's no problem though) | 10:30 |
| stgraber | you can also install a ubuntu-server and then add gnome on top of it but that'd be pretty similar than installing directly an ubuntu desktop and add server packages to it | 10:31 |
| jm1111 | ok | 10:32 |
| stgraber | for me a server = headless computer, reason why I proposed ubuntu-server :) otherwise as ubuntu packages are available on all ubuntu flavour you can choose the one you like the most | 10:33 |
| jm1111 | I have edubuntu currently installed and tried setting up a service to automatically run following directions as if it were ubuntu but for some reason it just wont run. So now I'm thinking I should just install ubuntu and deal with the command line install... | 10:34 |
| jm1111 | I definately agree with your logic | 10:34 |
| jm1111 | Thank you for your help!! I think I'll start working on setting up ubuntu server. | 10:36 |
| stgraber | the wiki is generally of great help for all server related things | 10:36 |
| stgraber | sometimes you even have many solutions to one precise problem :) | 10:37 |
| jm1111 | great! Thats handy! :) | 10:37 |
| jm1111 | Has anyone hear heard anything about an open source ZIS? | 10:38 |
| stgraber | ZIS ? | 10:40 |
| stgraber | http://www.microsoft.com/education/zis.mspx <-- like this ? | 10:40 |
| jm1111 | Zone Intregration Server ... School Interopability Framework ... | 10:40 |
| jm1111 | Yup you got it exactly thats not open source though is it? | 10:41 |
| jm1111 | Well I am just researching at this point in one of my searches there was some mention of ubuntu and openZIS but it seems to have died away. | 10:43 |
| jm1111 | Its too bad ... it seems like it would be real handy for a guy in my position the way schools and data is going | 10:44 |
| jm1111 | Anyway ... take care and thanks again for the advice! | 10:46 |
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| stgraber | no problem and good luck | 10:46 |
| stgraber | :( | 10:46 |
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| multik | greetings ogra :) | 11:51 |
| multik | I heard good news ;) | 11:51 |
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