=== pauljw_vm [n=paul@pool233.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@145.Red-83-56-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@71-12-14-250.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === Tophe1 [n=Topher_H@pool-71-169-137-216.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === merriam__ [n=merriam@82-133-115-120.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [02:22] Hey, has anyone here used Edubuntu on an older Dell laptop? [02:23] No one...? Is anyone here who has had luck with Edubuntu on an older computer in general? [02:23] I have an old Inspiron with 512 MB RAM and 2 GHz processor but it runs slowly and I'm not sure why. === Tophe1 [n=Topher_H@pool-71-169-137-216.burl.east.verizon.net] has left #edubuntu [] === cynics [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #edubuntu [03:13] heh. thats stil new to me === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === lmveloso [n=lmveloso@200-193-152-9.mganm702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === joebob777as7 [n=corn13re@yoda.peacefulescape.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:00] i can't figure out how to install wine on edubuntu... any ideas? it's not in the apt database === freeflying [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:31] Evening all === bonbonthejon [n=jon@cpe-69-133-37-32.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #edubuntu [06:04] greetings all. edubuntu cds for tribe 3 need testing, preferably before we release it. the cds are at https://isotesting.stgraber.org/isotesting/build/Edubuntu === frankhardy [n=Frank@71-85-110-146.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === t94xr [n=gta@60-234-159-7.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #edubuntu === cynics [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [08:23] ogra: around? === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@145.Red-83-56-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A96EC5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === t94xr [n=gta@60-234-134-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth === mEDUXa [i=agustin@62.87.18.58] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === jolstad [n=jolstad@d-65-175-209-159.metrocast.net] has joined #edubuntu === jolstad [n=jolstad@d-65-175-209-159.metrocast.net] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@176.52.78.208.dyn-ip.domaccess.com] has joined #edubuntu === scane [n=scane@xdsl-87-78-226-33.netcologne.de] has joined #edubuntu [02:22] Hi. I am planning to use an old notebook with xubunut 7.04 to use as a client for edubuntu server 7.04 [02:23] s/xubunut/xubuntu/ [02:23] (the notebook pcmcia network card cannot pxe boot because it needs drivers loaded first) [02:24] If I want to connect with X from the notebook to the server - is there a special way of config needed on the server? === pauljw [n=paul@pool62.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:06] you need to allow x connections from remote hosts [03:06] not sure if feisty lets you do that though === pauljw_vm [n=paul@pool62.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === mcsd [n=admin@64.90.240.38] has joined #edubuntu [03:50] can someone help ... I can't seem to find specs on this Dell E173FPc 17" monitor and my OS display looks like a tv without reception [03:51] the image is sliced and stretched === sbalneav_ [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [04:04] Morning all === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw_vm [n=paul@pool62.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@121.97.250.245] has joined #edubuntu === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #edubuntu === mcsd [n=admin@64.90.240.38] has joined #edubuntu [06:29] can someone tell me how to refresh/reload gnome [06:32] mcsd: what do you mean, exactly? [06:33] ctrl+alt+bksp reloads xorg but I forget the terminal command [06:33] sudo /etc/gdm restart? [06:33] sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart === aze [n=aze@36.52.78.208.dyn-ip.domaccess.com] has joined #edubuntu [06:34] what is the init.d file? [06:34] /etc/init.d/gdm [06:34] what is the difference between the two? [06:35] invoke-rc.d is the "proper" way to restart init files. [06:35] If they ever decide to move the init files from /etc/init.d, invoke-rc.d will be changed to know about that. [06:35] so, theoretically, it should work no matter where the init file is. [06:36] ahhh so invoke-rc.d is similar to a script [06:36] invoke-rc.d is a script, yes. [06:36] that knows where the init scripts are, and calls them. [06:38] sbalneav_: thank you [06:38] NP === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [06:47] ping stgraber [06:49] cbx33: pong [06:54] i see you're planning to rewrite tcm? [07:06] cbx33: yes, I'm spending some of my free time working on another frontend to the python tcm module [07:07] ahhh [07:07] well i was interested in your idea to rewrite the VNC stuff [07:07] that was on my agenda [07:08] would you be interested in working on tcm as opposed to another front end? [07:08] sure [07:08] My dev time is going to be reduced a little [07:09] and I've been hoping to find someone to collab with to make tcm even better [07:09] I would much prefer to work with someone on it [07:09] than someone to do all the work from scratch [07:09] my VNC part is rather easy as I'm not using resized VNC window or any stuff like that but screenshots generated on the clients and store on the server [07:09] then I simply show them as icon [07:09] yes [07:09] well [07:09] and open vncviewer only when you double-click [07:09] that was the way I was going to implement it [07:09] how often are they updated? [07:10] done every 5s and display refresh every 2s [07:10] i see [07:10] what's the CPU load on that [07:10] you're taking a full screenshot using?? [07:11] I'd like to move the screenshot part to the clients themselves so with no load on the server [07:11] scrot at the moment [07:11] i see [07:11] that was my plan [07:11] hence why i left it with vnc [07:12] I can't really talk about the CPU usage of the GUI as I'm running it on my laptop which is a Core 2 Duo :), even with 100 clients simulated refreshed every 2s it never went over 1% of CPU :) [07:14] wow [07:14] so you resize the screen [07:14] or does scrot take small screenshots? [07:14] and the thing I like the most with my GUI is the iconview part, being able to logout only a part of the class, or execute firefox for some of them, ... [07:15] It took too much CPU load to resize after taking the screenshot, so I let gtk do that :) === martoya [n=paranoia@164.77.49.10] has joined #edubuntu [07:15] but when it'll run on the clients, resizing on them could be a good idea [07:15] to have an even lower CPU usage on the server === Knightlust_ [n=Dax@203.87.200.214] has joined #edubuntu [07:16] hmmm [07:16] so where does gtk do the resizing? [07:17] you just set the icon to be X.png [07:17] and it resizes it? [07:17] automagically? [07:17] lsIcon.append((gtk.gdk.pixbuf_new_from_file_at_size(path,128,128), "Client "+clientid+"\n"+item[1] +"",item[2] ,item[1] ,int(item[0] ))) [07:18] creates an icon with "Client X", the username in italic below and the icon resized to 128x128 [07:19] I just checked, with a 1680x1050 screenshot shown 32 times and refreshed every 2 seconds, it takes ~8% of one of my core [07:19] I'll do the same test with 128x128 screenshot === Igorots [n=Dax@203.87.200.214] has joined #edubuntu [07:20] ok [07:20] I'm hoping to write a C based screen graber tightly integrated with X [07:22] CPU usage is now ~4% [07:26] CPU usage of 1.8% with refresh at 5s === Igorots [n=Dax@203.87.200.214] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@36.52.78.208.dyn-ip.domaccess.com] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #edubuntu [07:51] ogra: got a second? === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === phitoo [n=phitoo@dpc674484141.direcpc.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:27] Hello! I'm having a devil of time setting up etherboot on a CF card. The downloaded zhd image from ROM-O-MATIC just doesn't seem to work. [08:28] I'm open to suggestions, if any? === pauljw [n=paul@pool28.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu [08:52] phitoo: CF card? A PCMCIA card? [09:08] sbalneav: Compact Flash card. [09:09] sbalneav: Should behave as a hard disk. [09:11] ah === unix4me [n=ubuntu@c-71-203-10-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:15] how do I add another clef in Denemo? === jaytux [n=jyeoman@66.207.113.221] has joined #edubuntu [10:21] exit === jm1111 [n=joshua@static-65-175-138-6.metrocast.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:28] Hello [10:29] Is there anyone here that could provide advice over which flavor of ubuntu to install on a server for a school that would promarily be running mysql for a student information system? [10:29] if you don't need a gui, simply install ubuntu server [10:29] What if I would like a gui? [10:30] then install any desktop flavour, but this will eat some memory for sure and add some possible vulnerabilities (on an intranet it's no problem though) [10:31] you can also install a ubuntu-server and then add gnome on top of it but that'd be pretty similar than installing directly an ubuntu desktop and add server packages to it [10:32] ok [10:33] for me a server = headless computer, reason why I proposed ubuntu-server :) otherwise as ubuntu packages are available on all ubuntu flavour you can choose the one you like the most [10:34] I have edubuntu currently installed and tried setting up a service to automatically run following directions as if it were ubuntu but for some reason it just wont run. So now I'm thinking I should just install ubuntu and deal with the command line install... [10:34] I definately agree with your logic [10:36] Thank you for your help!! I think I'll start working on setting up ubuntu server. [10:36] the wiki is generally of great help for all server related things [10:37] sometimes you even have many solutions to one precise problem :) [10:37] great! Thats handy! :) [10:38] Has anyone hear heard anything about an open source ZIS? [10:40] ZIS ? [10:40] http://www.microsoft.com/education/zis.mspx <-- like this ? [10:40] Zone Intregration Server ... School Interopability Framework ... [10:41] Yup you got it exactly thats not open source though is it? [10:43] Well I am just researching at this point in one of my searches there was some mention of ubuntu and openZIS but it seems to have died away. [10:44] Its too bad ... it seems like it would be real handy for a guy in my position the way schools and data is going [10:46] Anyway ... take care and thanks again for the advice! === jm1111 [n=joshua@static-65-175-138-6.metrocast.net] has left #edubuntu [] [10:46] no problem and good luck [10:46] :( === martoya [n=paranoia@164.77.49.10] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === lmveloso [n=lmveloso@200-193-152-9.mganm702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === phitoo [n=phitoo@dpc674484141.direcpc.com] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === multik [n=multik@gprs-inet.elisa.ee] has joined #edubuntu [11:51] greetings ogra :) [11:51] I heard good news ;)