[12:17] <faires> ryjin: YOu mean the total memory?
[12:18] <faires> $ cat /proc/meminfo
[12:18] <ryjin> yes
[12:18] <ryjin> I do
[12:19] <faires> (Without the "$"
[12:19] <faires> )
[12:19] <ryjin> kk
[12:19] <ryjin> ty
[12:20] <ryjin> How do I install Limewire?
[12:20] <graft> yo, why does kino just freeze as soon as i start it?
[12:20] <graft> is it run by hamsters?
[12:20] <NickPresta> ryjin, http://www.limewire.com/download/download.php?version=linux_deb
[12:20] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> on the Ubuntu Feisty livecd, anyway.
[12:21] <ryjin> Alright downloading it now
[12:21] <zorglu_> q. is there a way to prevent konqueror from being 'preloaded' ? i got this process  konqueror [kdeinit]  --preload even when i dont run konqueror.
[12:21] <genii> graft: Yes, I suspect dangerous rabid hamsters
[12:22] <graft> curse those little buggers
[12:22] <graft> so, is there a reasonable movie editor for lunix?
[12:22] <graft> i don't consider cinerella to be reasonable in any way, btw
[12:22] <graft> that interface was obviously designed by and for hamsters
[12:22] <zorglu_> graft: not that i know of, if you find one tell me :)
[12:23] <zorglu_> graft: pytivi was looking promising when i looked tho. i dunno the current state
[12:23] <graft> yargh. my jealousy of how 12-year-old vidiots on Windows can make videos with a snap and a twist is growing exponentially
[12:23] <graft> pytivi, you say?
[12:23] <mike-kubuntu> hey, i just noticed that /etc/init.d/wesnoth-server is starting everytime my comp startys up, how can i stop it from autoloading
[12:23] <zorglu_> http://www.pitivi.org/wiki/Main_Page <- graft
[12:23] <ryjin> ok have downloaed the .deb. It opened with ark, and I see control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz and debian-binary. What should I do next?
[12:24] <NickPresta> !bum | mike-kubuntu
[12:24] <ubotu> mike-kubuntu: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:24] <graft> hmmm, use of gstreamer makes me suspicious
[12:24] <mike-kubuntu> thanks
[12:24] <mike-kubuntu> graft, you ever tried kino or cinelerra?
[12:25] <graft> mike-kubuntu: we just had this discussion
[12:25] <graft> kino crashes before it even loads
[12:25] <graft> cinelerra is designed for and by hamsters
[12:25] <mike-kubuntu> graft: or if your trying to find out how to make dvd's check out tovid, the gui is broken but the command line vfeatures are awesome
[12:25] <graft> nein, i want to edit videos
[12:25] <mike-kubuntu> graft: cinelerra isn't that bad
[12:25] <dude_> hello
[12:26] <graft> mike-kubuntu: i find it awful. i want an interface that doesn't make me want to vomit/have seizures
[12:26] <dude_> does anyone know of any investment software for linux - possibly open source?
[12:26] <zorglu_> graft: try pitivi
[12:26] <graft> zorglu_: i am investigating :)
[12:27] <graft> investment software?
[12:27] <mike-kubuntu> graft: lol, you ever seen afterfx's gui, or maya's or 3dsmax's, or flash's for that matter, guis on high quality multimedia editing programs seem to suck in general
[12:27] <dude_> tracking stocks
[12:27] <graft> mike-kubuntu: i didn't say high-quality, i just want a very basic video editor
[12:27] <graft> like ifilm
[12:27] <graft> something the layperson could use without having to read a 300-page PDF
[12:28] <ryjin> I'll brb
[12:28] <dude_> the only one i have found in qtstalker but it crashed sometimes
[12:29] <zorglu_> graft: tell me your result :) i am interested
[12:30] <bartisimo__> :)
[12:30] <graft> zorglu_: crud. "An error occured while importing."
[12:30] <ryjin> I have downloaded the deb file from Limewire, What else do I do next?
[12:30] <graft> oh, it's because gstreamer never works, eh
[12:31] <graft> hrmrmrm
[12:31] <NickPresta> ryjin, `sudo dpkg -i DEB_FILE`
[12:31] <graft> ryjin: why use limewire?
[12:31] <graft> ryjin: use gtk-gnutella, it's free, no spyware, GPL'd
[12:31] <mike-kubuntu> ryjin: gkt-gnutella contacts the same networks
[12:31] <graft> ryjin: also lighter and faster than limewire
[12:31] <ryjin> really?
[12:31] <graft> yep
[12:31] <ryjin> wow, i should try that out
[12:31] <graft> much better
[12:31] <ryjin> can I have a link?
[12:32] <graft> it's in the repository :)
[12:32] <graft> sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[12:32] <mike-kubuntu> ryjin: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[12:32] <mike-kubuntu> how does he type so fast O.O
[12:32] <NickPresta> lol
[12:32] <zorglu_> ryjin: i guess you are aware of the security danger ?
[12:32] <ryjin> Yes, I am
[12:32] <graft> wait, i'm not... what security danger?
[12:32] <zorglu_> ryjin: ok, it is your own computer :)
[12:33] <zorglu_> graft: downloading executable from 'untrusted' source makes is trivially vulnerable to cracking
[12:33] <dwidmann> graft, I've heard of something called kdenlive that's supposedly has lots of potential for being good. I don't think it's int he repos though.
[12:33] <zorglu_> graft: like window virus
[12:33] <graft> zorglu_: ah... you mean for limewire
[12:34] <graft> dwidmann: the deuce, you say... i'ma check it out
[12:34] <zorglu_> graft: well any untrustred  source. and obviously if spreading virus thru exec in p2p is widely knonw :)
[12:36] <graft> zorglu_: yeah, but there are, as far as i know, almost no viruses for linux, except this one: http://www.kettering.edu/~jhuggins/humor/unixvirus.html
[12:36] <zorglu_> graft: people were cracking unix way before window existed :)
[12:37] <zorglu_> graft: hue ? how to import a movie in pitivi ?
[12:39] <gcw|solurity> graft: There are actually quite a few *nix viruses. They just aren't as easy to propegate remotely as were various agents of malware in the windows world
[12:40] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jhutchins: I figured out what the problem is. The panel that holds the light and eject button on the drive has become unseated. If I hold it down, away from the drive tray, it comes out with a problem.
[12:42] <GrahamA> gcw|solurity: There's about 7
[12:45] <graft> well, kdenlive seems mostly awesome
[12:45] <graft> interface is nice and clean
[12:45] <graft> tools seem useful and friendly
[12:45] <graft> little bit crashy
[12:45] <graft> good use of visual feedback
[12:45] <graft> i like it, so far
[12:45] <graft> dunno if i can actually edit clips with it, but :)
[12:46] <gcw|solurity> GrahamA: There're about 7? hrmm
[12:46] <BluesKaj> dunno , but tovid might work for you as well , graft
[12:47] <graft> BluesKaj: nah, not interested in making DVDs
[12:47] <GrahamA> There's more, but few that work anymore since the bugs they exploited have been fixed.
[12:48] <zorglu_> graft: where did you get kdenlive package ?
[12:48] <vecina> How do you put passwords on .tars?
[12:48] <graft> zorglu_: 3v1n0's repository has it
[12:48] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !smb > WhtWolfTeraDyne
[12:48] <graft> vecina: you can't put a password on a tar, as far as i know
[12:48] <zorglu_> graft: 3v1n0 = ?
[12:49] <graft> graft: some dude.. trevino
[12:49] <graft> err, talking to myself
[12:49] <graft> zorglu_: some dude, trevino
[12:49] <vecina> graft: oh
[12:49] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> that didn't help... Anyone know how I can share between an Ubuntu and Kubuntu machine?
[12:49] <graft> vecina: you can make a tarball and then use GPG or something to encrypt it
[12:49] <gcw|solurity> GrahamA: there are a number of viruses that have been "ported" to *nix form the dos world that, while not a threat to the system due to protected memory, still technically run and "propagate" in a posix system
[12:49] <vecina> k
[12:49] <zorglu_> graft: url ?
[12:50] <graft> http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/
[12:50] <GrahamA> gcw|solurity: But come on, you have to be an utter failure to do that.
[12:51] <gcw|solurity> GrahamA: Agreed, but they do exist.. ;-)
[12:53] <zorglu_> GrahamA: gcw|solurity: if the users is willingly installing the software, there are no need for any bug exploit :)
[12:54] <GrahamA> But anybody who'd do that should get the hell off Linux.
[12:54] <zorglu_> Gra
[12:54] <BluesKaj> WhtWolfTeraDyne, samba , smb4k ...but one would think a simpler way exists for 2 linux machines
[12:55] <zorglu_> GrahamA: well people coming from window are doing it on a regular basis
[12:55] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: You'd think... I guess I'll set up a Samba share, then. Thanks.
[12:55] <GrahamA> People like that shouldn't use computers.
[12:55] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !samba > ubotu
[12:55] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !samba > WhtWolfTeraDyne
[12:57] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> msg* Now I know I need some sleep...
[12:58] <zorglu_> ok pytivi is only for people able to read the mind of the dev :)
[12:58] <graft> zorglu_: that's just a matter of culture. once people learn there's plenty of awesome free software available, usually straight from the repository, it's not as big an issue
[12:58] <zorglu_> i can load video, but no menu
[12:59] <graft> zorglu_: yeah, seems like alpha stuff
[12:59] <graft> kdenlive is much more functional
[12:59] <zorglu_> btw ++ to the one providing way to uninstall software :)
[12:59] <graft> apt-get remove?
[12:59] <zorglu_> i installed this pitivi + all gstreamer stuff :)
[01:00] <zorglu_> graft: well only in very limited case :)
[01:00] <graft> ah... whatevs, probably a few megs at the most
[01:00] <zorglu_> like IIF the package got no dependancy :)
[01:00] <BluesKaj> WhtWolfTeraDyne, genii would know. He's a networking guy
[01:00] <genii> My ears are burning
[01:00] <BluesKaj> hehe ...ask and ye shall receive !
[01:01] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ?
[01:01] <genii> WhtWolfTeraDyne: What networking issue are you experiencing?
[01:01] <BluesKaj> genii, linking 2 linux machines ...does one really need samba?
[01:01] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: NFS
[01:01] <genii> nope
[01:01] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: or fish/ssh.
[01:02] <genii> jhutchins Exactly
[01:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I'm trying to get files off my Kubuntu laptop from a desktop with Ubuntu, without burning or using a thumbdrive.
[01:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> in other words, via a shared folder.
[01:02] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: NFS can be a little bit obtuse, samba is easier if you've done a lot of Windows networking, fish/ssh is pretty much dead simple.
[01:03] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: I don't know if gnome supports fish though, iirc it's a kde protocol.
[01:03] <genii> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Ah, OK :) So best thing is nfs. Export from the machine with the data the folder with data. then on client mount the nfs drive and you can copy it that way
[01:03] <zorglu_> ssh for file copy is ultra slow tho :)
[01:03] <zorglu_> compare to nfs i mean
[01:03] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ok...
[01:03] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, i was asking about linking 2 linux machines such as WhtWolfTeraDyne is trying to setup
[01:03] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !nfs > WhtWolfTeraDyne
[01:04] <genii> Another really simple thing is ftp. Then wget from the client
[01:04] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Yep.  Everything we said pretty much applies from two systems up until you start needing to think about user pool security.
[01:05] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: At which point you need to decide what kind of centrailzed auth system you're going to use, which will determine what system you'll use.
[01:05] <genii> If you are going to always be syncing this data, then rsync overall is the best solution for this
[01:05] <genii> It can do incremental copies
[01:05] <jhutchins> genii: True; I was thinking in terms of browsing files.
[01:06] <genii> incremental/differential
[01:07] <genii> work calls, afk 5-7 mins
[01:09] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, i have a samba system working sort of ok on our network, altho I cant access my linux box from the windows pc , ive tried several tutorials but none work....it doesn't really matter tho , windows pc is prctically filled up with "stuff" , so it acn'r handle many more files
[01:10] <zorglu_> genii: euhh i would do all the kdenlive stuff IIF i was sure it would work :)
[01:10] <zorglu_> genii: tell me if it does, when we meet again :)
[01:11] <genii> back.
[01:11] <genii> zorglu_: Ah, you are still looking fort video editing etc
[01:12] <graft> cool... kdenlive seems to kick much ass
[01:12] <graft> you should use it, zorglu_
[01:12] <graft> very nice
[01:12] <zorglu_> gr
[01:12] <zorglu_> graft: you are able to make it work ?
[01:12] <graft> seems to help to use free formats
[01:13] <graft> when i was working with wmv clips it was happy
[01:13] <graft> unhappy rather
[01:13] <genii> WhtWolfTeraDyne: The files you want access to. Are they supposed to just sit on the one machine but be accessible to both? Or do you want to completely copy over everything to the other machine? etc
[01:13] <zorglu_> i should by a third laptop to try stuff
[01:13] <graft> but when i used ffmpeg to rip my clips to mpeg first, it worked like a charm
[01:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> genii: I need to completely copy them back and forth. I'm going to be using this laptop as my main workstation, and the desktop to compile and package apps.
[01:14] <_dac> anyone here from France?
[01:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !fr | _dac
[01:14] <ubotu> _dac: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:15] <genii> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Then rsync is the correct solution
[01:15] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> genii: ok.
[01:16] <genii> I'll try to find you an easy to read tutorial
[01:16] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> genii: Thanks.
[01:16] <graft> BluesKaj: what does she do?
[01:16] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: Show her Beryl.
[01:17] <BluesKaj> beryl ...bah
[01:17] <graft> no, don't show her beryl, that only works for adolescent boys
[01:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> graft: Tell that to the two women that fell in love with it at the mall the other day.
[01:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> the local* mall
[01:17] <graft> what was beryl doing in the mall?
[01:18] <BluesKaj> she plays solitaire, emails and surfs...that's about it
[01:18] <_dac> no, how longdoes email take fro U>S> to France?
[01:18] <NickPresta> My girlfriend loves Beryl. She thinks the Snow plugin is "cute" and wobby windows are cool. lol
[01:18] <_dac> U.S.
[01:18] <graft> BluesKaj: so, she would be happy with like, twm, firefox and thunderbird?
[01:18] <BluesKaj> dac depends on the translator:)
[01:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> graft: Guy was using it on his laptop, and the ladies went up to him asking what it was, and where they could get it.
[01:19] <graft> WhtWolfTeraDyne: did he have a nice butt?
[01:19] <_dac> I don't understand
[01:19] <genii> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Not ubuntu-specific but extremely informative http://www.fredshack.com/docs/rsync.html
[01:19] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> graft: I don't look at things like that. I'm male as well.
[01:19] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> genii: Thanks.
[01:19] <_dac> the receiving party knows english
[01:20] <graft> WhtWolfTeraDyne: doesn't mean you can't tell a nice butt when you see it
[01:20] <BluesKaj> yup, she uses them all the time , but "Pretty good Solitaire" is her fav and it isn't available in linux ...and I'm not gonna put wine on a 366mhz celeron pc :)
[01:20] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> graft: ...
[01:20] <graft> anywho
[01:20] <graft> BluesKaj: AisleRiot is like 45 different versions of solitaire in one, eh
[01:20] <graft> what is "pretty good solitaire"?
[01:21] <BluesKaj> it's a popular windows card game
[01:23] <beata> I want to make a full backup of a filesystem onto DVD+RW media, and I'd like to use something that gives me a progress indicator. Any suggestions? tar would work, but doesn't offer a progress indicator.
[01:24] <graft> BluesKaj: wow, 660 variants
[01:24] <graft> BluesKaj: AisleRiot only has like, 100 or so
[01:25] <BluesKaj> graft, I'm installing gnome games as we speak :)
[01:25] <graft> BluesKaj: it seems like that would be satisfying enough
[01:25] <graft> BluesKaj: no one could possibly need that many solitaire variants
[01:25] <corey> Can someone tell me if it is possible to run iTunes in kubuntu??
[01:26] <graft> corey: no, but amarok and banshee are both good substitutes
[01:26] <graft> corey: or, more accurately, probably yes using wine and lots of nodoze and excedrin, but who wants to do that?
[01:26] <graft> where by wine i mean /usr/bin/wine, and not a nice sangiovese
[01:27] <corey> is Banshee easy to install ?
[01:27] <graft> yeah
[01:27] <graft> sudo apt-get install banshee
[01:27] <graft> it's pretty braindead to use, as well
[01:27] <crimsun> or use Adept/dselect/aptitude/smart/whatever.
[01:27] <BluesKaj> Hehe , no kidding ...but pretty good solitaire keeps track/score of a players win/loss ratio and that means all that data would be lost ... 6yrs worth...couldn't do that to wifey
[01:27] <graft> pretty much a minimalist itunes clone
[01:27] <graft> haha
[01:28] <corey> Awesome :) Thatns
[01:28] <graft> is their format readable? you could just import it by hand
[01:28] <graft> aisleriot also has statistics
[01:29] <graft> if it was really important you could make a big spreadsheet in windows and then write a perl script to update 'em :)
[01:29] <graft> also, wtf, 6 yrs of playing solitaire?
[01:29] <evilmm> graft: why wouldnt you use amarok?
[01:29] <genii> just as an interesting site/sidenote on the itunes/linux thing in general http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes
[01:30] <beata> Amarok pretty good, except tweaks to the playlist.
[01:30] <Darkrift> BluesKaj, install windows in a vm and copy her solitaire files to the vm
[01:30] <COONiA> hi room
[01:30] <graft> evilmm: i would and do...
[01:31] <COONiA> how ca ni go to kubuntu fr ?
[01:31] <COONiA> can*
[01:31] <BluesKaj> graft , we're older ppl , in our 60s ...solitaire is good therapy
[01:31] <graft> ~fr
[01:31] <graft> !fr
[01:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:31] <COONiA> thx
[01:31] <graft> BluesKaj: what about blowing people away with a railgun?
[01:31] <BluesKaj> vmware on a 366mhz celeron ...i don't think so ! :)
[01:32] <beata> I did find out about kdar, but it doesn't seem to be available any more?
[01:32] <graft> !info kdar
[01:32] <ubotu> Package kdar does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:32] <graft> qu'est-ce que c'est?
[01:32] <BluesKaj> graft , we see enuff shootem ups on the tube ...don't need more of it.
[01:33] <[GuS] > Hello guys, i am having problems since my upgrade today in Kubuntu feisty of QT4-4.2 to QT4-4.3, I have weird visuals "clitches" in all QT4 apps, and malfuction in PyQT4 apps. Here a Designer pic for example: http://www.lnxteam.org/downloads/pub/kubuntu/qt4/QT4-4.3.png
[01:33] <Darkrift> anyone here install wow in wine?
[01:33] <Darkrift> #winehq is dead
[01:34] <graft> what, wow on linux?
[01:34] <Darkrift> yeah
[01:34] <Darkrift> i see tons of pages that says it works fine
[01:34] <Darkrift> but the instaler is failing on my
[01:34] <beata> I'm curious what I could use instead of it then.
[01:34] <Darkrift> most ppl seem to have no problem with the installer
[01:34] <graft> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[01:34] <graft> is that what you're following?
[01:34] <Darkrift> i was there :(
[01:34] <Darkrift> mine wont even get that far
[01:35] <Darkrift> as soon as i open the Installer.exe it gives an error
[01:35] <graft> what error?
[01:35] <Darkrift> when i try to install it, i see "No installer data could be found. if the problem persists contact blizzard tech support."
[01:35] <Darkrift> then in konsole, i see "Missing symbol {LanguageCode}! (SymbolTable::UnmappedSymbolSubstitution)"
[01:36] <[GuS] > some one that uses qt4?
[01:36] <[GuS] > and confirm this bug
[01:36] <[GuS] > (with latest update to 4.3)
[01:38] <beata> Keep doesn't appear to know how to write to a block device.
[01:41] <corey> ok i have one other big question \... how can i share my Media across my network to the linux PC, from windows
[01:41] <meuhlol> corey: try to look for Samba :)
[01:41] <graft> Darkrift: are you installing from CD?
[01:41] <SlimeyPete> !samba
[01:42] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:42] <Fr0de> corey: make a shre in windows, then access it with 'smb://yourpcname_or_ip/sharename' in konqueror
[01:42] <Fr0de> share
[01:46] <BluesKaj> I guess gnome games won't run on kde :(
[01:46] <[GuS] > zzzz
[01:46] <[GuS] > ok, i will report the bug..
[01:47] <rvieira> Hi
[01:48] <rvieira> Do you know a ogg to mp3 converter ?
[01:48] <phoenixz> Hi there, I want to install kubuntu on my dualcore pentium... I put the CD in, reset, select start / install kubuntu from the CD, and then it loads.. and then I get a "crc error  -- system halted
[01:48] <phoenixz> What is this problem? and how do I fix it?
[01:49] <BluesKaj> rvieira, soundkonvertor
[01:49] <phoenixz>  I heard that linux installs may have problems with dualcore machines.. could that be related to my problem?
[01:49] <rvieira> Thanks BluesKaj . I will try.
[01:50] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> phoenixz: As an owner of a dualcore, I can say that I've never had a problem. It might be a bad burn. Did you verify the CD?
[01:50] <Darkrift> graft,  im installing from iso's
[01:50] <rvieira> phoenix, I have had problem with overheating in my motherboard processor when I tried install
[01:50] <NickPresta> phoenixz, where did you hear this? I have an X2 machine and I don't have a problem
[01:50] <Darkrift> is there a built in way to mount an iso in linux?
[01:50] <Darkrift> acitoneiso seems to be having problems with my iso;s
[01:51] <genii> !loop
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <Biovore> Darkrift: .iso CD image?
[01:51] <genii> bah
[01:51] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !iso
[01:51] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:51] <Biovore> ^ thats it
[01:51] <genii> WhtWolfTeraDyne: that was it
[01:51] <phoenixz> NickPresta, Actually heard (and experienced it) with a Fedora install.. FC5 I believe, it was some grub problem
[01:51] <Darkrift> nice
[01:52] <genii> afk
[01:52] <phoenixz> WhtWolfTeraDyne, well, I installed kubuntu on another machine with the same CD, although now I have tried it like 5 times, I get different results all the time.. sometimes the menu does not come up and I get some sort of prompt with the kubuntu logo on the background.. now I have the logo + menu, but there is some text over it shouwing some values.. dunno what it is..
[01:53] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Hmm... never had that problem...
[01:53] <Fr0de> phoenixz: sounds like a bad iso..
[01:53] <dfdsfdsfs> hola?
[01:53] <Fr0de> !es
[01:53] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:53] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !es
[01:53] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> seconds...
[01:53] <Fr0de> :P
[01:53] <dfdsfdsfs> thanks
[01:54] <phoenixz> Fr0de, I guess it is, because even check CD crashes.
[01:54] <phoenixz> but the weird thing is that I already installed kubuntu from the same CD.. Im talking to you guys from that install.. :)
[01:54] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> phoenixz: I'd bet anything that it's a bad burn\iso
[01:54] <Fr0de> phoenixz: :) try again, and check the MD5SUMs next time.. :)
[01:54] <Fr0de> "try downloading again, I mean
[01:54] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Wait... That's odd. Maybe there is a bug there...
[01:55] <phoenixz> Fr0de, WhtWolfTeraDyne, if its a bad burn, then how could i install it on this computer??
[01:55] <phoenixz> Maybe its a bad reader..
[01:55] <graft> phoenixz: swap out your cdrom, eh
[01:55] <Fr0de> phoenixz: that is odd, but if the corruption is in a section where drivers for the other pc is stored, your current install might not go there?
[01:56] <graft> phoenixz: can you read other media okay?
[01:56] <Fr0de> check the md5sum in the pc that works
[01:56] <graft> phoenixz: oh, you have no OS with which to test it :)
[01:56] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> phoenixz: could the CD be scratched?
[02:00] <phoenixz> WhtWolfTeraDyne, CD is in perfect conditions
[02:00] <genii> Likely crappy Mitsumi cd drive
[02:00] <genii> possibly Acer
[02:01] <hasan> hi guy s
[02:01] <phoenixz> Im trying another reader now\
[02:01] <hasan> how can i make
[02:01] <hasan> konqueror opened in new tab when i click on a link ?
[02:01] <hasan> as if in windows
[02:01] <hasan> i mean shift +click
[02:02] <Fr0de> use middle mouse button
[02:02] <Fr0de> (or both buttons simultaenously)
[02:02] <hasan> whenever i shift +click on a link it saves url
[02:02] <Darkrift> phoenixz, i had the same issues, every time i booted from the cd, i got different results, but i tried some switch, and it installed and has been perfect since
[02:03] <asim> some one please help me with my totem player
[02:03] <Darkrift> the switch was -noap<something>
[02:03] <asim> i cannot reset my mozilla settings
[02:03] <hitmanWilly> hasan, you can set that up in preferences
[02:03] <asim> can any1 help
[02:03] <marko_> can someone please help me which should i dowload http://www.nvu.com/download.php that will work on kubuntu
[02:04] <hasan> under which tab ? my english is not so good
[02:04] <genii> phoenixz: What are the cpu models in each machine? Perhaps you need some kernel switch like notsc for example if dual-core/Core Duo
[02:05] <hitmanWilly> hasan, Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Behavior -> tabbed browsing -> check 'open links in new tab'
[02:05] <phoenixz> genii, the one I have here is a normal P4.. the other one is dual pentium IIRC
[02:05] <marko_> can't noone help me?
[02:05] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> marko_: You might try the "nvu-1.0.ubuntu.5.04.deb" option, but if that doesn't work, try "nvu-1.0-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz2"
[02:05] <genii> phoenixz: The one which is having issues is the normal p4 or the dual one?
[02:06] <hitmanWilly> marko_, i think nvu is in the repos
[02:06] <marko_> it's not
[02:06] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: I don't think so.
[02:06] <marko_> anyway how do i compile .deb ?:D
[02:06] <hitmanWilly> wow, when did that change?
[02:06] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !find nvu
[02:06] <ubotu> Package/file nvu does not exist in feisty
[02:06] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> marko_: You don't need to compile it.
[02:06] <marko_> what should i do then
[02:06] <hitmanWilly> marko_, sudo dpkg -i <name_of_deb>
[02:07] <marko_> oh
[02:07] <marko_> right xD thanks
[02:07] <genii> marko_ you get the deb file then do:  sudo dpkg -i <packagename>
[02:07] <genii> hitmanWilly: heh
[02:07] <marko_> thank's both
[02:07] <Darkrift> w000t
[02:07] <Darkrift> wow is installing :)
[02:07] <hitmanWilly> marko_, or just double clickthe deb, it should install it for you, iirc
[02:07] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> It's odd. They dropped support for NVU, but didn't pick up support for Kompozer.
[02:08] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> speaking of which...
[02:08] <marko_> thanks :)
[02:09] <phoenixz> genii, The dualcore one..
[02:10] <phoenixz> genii, Im trying right now with other reader to see if maybe it was a bad cd reader..
[02:11] <Darkrift> world of warcraft on linux...... thats gotta be a huge step forward for nerds and geeks all over the world
[02:11] <genii> phoenixz: OK. If same issue, try the kernel switch   notsc    when loading if possible.
[02:11] <phoenixz> WhtWolfTeraDyne, You would bet anything that it was a bad ISO huh? Changing reader fixed the thing! I'll not be too greedy, and be ok with your computer only :)
[02:11] <phoenixz> genii, It looks like its working now.. X is starting already
[02:11] <genii> I forget if regular livecd allows
[02:11] <phoenixz> genii, yeap, kde is there
[02:12] <genii> phoenixz: Ah, good :)
[02:12] <Darkrift> good to hear
[02:12] <Darkrift> anohter kubuntu user :)
[02:12] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> phoenixz: Do you really want a 199MHz desktop?
[02:12] <Darkrift> ive tried many distro's and this is the only one that made me ditch windows
[02:13] <phoenixz> WhtWolfTeraDyne, well, that might make a nice torrent leecher.. :)
[02:13] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> phoenixz: Good point. *writes idea down as a use for said server machine*
[02:14] <phoenixz> WhtWolfTeraDyne, while you're at it, write "send by ups to phoenixz" :)
[02:14] <hitmanWilly> ugh, dell hardware
[02:14] <Darkrift> i think a dellbuntu would be nice because of compat hw being built in, but my compaq works nicely with kubuntu
[02:15] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Better than buying from BestBuy, which would be my only other choice.
[02:15] <Darkrift> presario v6210us
[02:15] <Darkrift> wifi had problems, but the rest installed nicely
[02:15] <hitmanWilly> true
[02:16] <phoenixz> Darkrift, compat hw?
[02:16] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne, actually, you may want to check out system76
[02:16] <graft> compatible hardware, phoenixz
[02:16] <graft> i.e., you know it works when you get it
[02:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Do they have something similar to the "Dell Perfered Account"?
[02:17] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne, not sure, but maybe
[02:18] <phoenixz> graft, Ah, I know what compatibility is :) I was mixed up with compat library..
[02:18] <hitmanWilly> ive been playing around with the idea of starting my own nix friendly computer shop
[02:20] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: That'd be useful to have in my area. Unfortunately, I live in the middle of hick country.
[02:20] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne, so do I :)
[02:20] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Arkansas. You?
[02:20] <hitmanWilly> TN
[02:20] <sdlvx> i have a problem with my wifi =[
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> sdlvx, who doesn't :)
[02:21] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Ah, the other side of AR for me. I live, literally, two blocks for the OK state line road.
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> lol
[02:21] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> from*
[02:21] <sdlvx> its stuck at 28% when I try and connect to my home network
[02:21] <sdlvx> but when I try and connect to the neighbors, it connects fine
[02:21] <graft> sdlvx: never mind those numbers, they're often wrong
[02:21] <sdlvx> its at configuring device
[02:22] <graft> sdlvx: wait, what's stuck at 28%?
[02:22] <graft> oh i see
[02:22] <graft> can others connect to your home network?
[02:22] <sdlvx> yeah
[02:22] <hitmanWilly> sdlvx, does your home network have wpa encryption?
[02:22] <sdlvx> im on my desktop now
[02:22] <sdlvx> and my sister is on her icky mac
[02:22] <sdlvx> on wifi
[02:22] <sdlvx> im wired
[02:22] <graft> but her mac works...
[02:22] <sdlvx> it works wired on the laptop under kubuntu too
[02:22] <graft> how's the network set up?
[02:22] <ryjin> Hi all,
[02:22] <graft> wep? WPA? 802.11b? g?
[02:23] <ryjin> Is there a reason why it won't let me put my songs on my mp3?
[02:23] <sdlvx> 802.11g
[02:23] <sdlvx> no WEP or WPA
[02:23] <graft> and you try to connect using what?
[02:23] <sdlvx> knetworkmanager
[02:23] <sdlvx> it shows up there
[02:23] <graft> and you can connect fine to your neighbor's thingy?
[02:23] <sdlvx> yeah
[02:23] <graft> and they also have 11g?
[02:24] <graft> are you sure your card does 11g?
[02:24] <sdlvx> not 100% on that
[02:24] <sdlvx> they aren't very close
[02:24] <sdlvx> yeah i've used 11g before
[02:24] <ryjin> any suggestions?
[02:24] <sdlvx> its like an intel 3945 pro
[02:24] <graft> well, some networks are configured for both
[02:25] <graft> ryjin: do what now?
[02:25] <hitmanWilly> sdlvx, ok, that's a good nix card, so i doubt its compat issues
[02:25] <ryjin> it won't let me put my music files onto my mp3 player
[02:25] <graft> what is 'it'?
[02:25] <sdlvx> and what mp3 player
[02:25] <ryjin> the system I guess
[02:25] <hitmanWilly> sdlvx, does your router have mac filtering set up?
[02:25] <ryjin> I have a Nextar mp3 player
[02:26] <graft> ryjin: how are you trying to put stuff on it?
[02:26] <sdlvx> i did a hard reset on the router to factory settings
[02:26] <sdlvx> i thought it was the router, because when I'm at school I have a westell router and it works 100% fine
[02:26] <ryjin> by dragging the files
[02:26] <graft> ryjin: you mount it as a writeable USB drive?
[02:26] <hitmanWilly> sdlvx, have you tried playing around with the router settings?
[02:26] <sdlvx> yes
[02:27] <sdlvx> it was giving me the external Ip before
[02:27] <sdlvx> i almost think this router is defective
[02:27] <cje> hi, is there a script command to find out what version of kubuntu edgy is installed on my machine?
[02:27] <sdlvx> before I hard reset it, it kept saying everyone had DMZ Plus on and locking people out
[02:27] <graft> sdlvx: what router?
[02:27] <ryjin> let me see
[02:27] <sdlvx> 2wire 1701HG
[02:27] <hitmanWilly> sdlvx, then your sisters mac wouldn't be able to connect either
[02:27] <sdlvx> that's why I'm so confused
[02:28] <sdlvx> i had a terrible time with my nintendo DS and this router too
[02:28] <graft> cje: what for?
[02:28] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> cje: What do you mean? Edgy is a version of Kubuntu.
[02:29] <sdlvx> CJE Feisty Fawn is the version number
[02:29] <graft> well technically i guess 7.04 is the version number
[02:29] <graft> or 6.10 for edgy
[02:29] <hitmanWilly> sdlvx, do you know the essid of the router?
[02:30] <cje> k, thanks guys!  see ya!
[02:30] <sdlvx> 2WIRE996
[02:30] <graft> ergh... jumping the gun
[02:30] <sdlvx> i almost think it might be mac filtering or something
[02:30] <graft> i was about to tell him: sudo lsb_release -a will give you that info
[02:30] <hitmanWilly> sdlvx, try going into the router settings from the desktop and make sure its disabled
[02:31] <graft> no router would have MAC filtering on by default
[02:31] <graft> that would be retarded
[02:31] <ADiCT3D> Hello, Can someone assist me in compliling Audacity with mp3 Support?
[02:31] <hitmanWilly> graft, yes, it would, but ive seen some retarded configs :)
[02:31] <sdlvx> this 2WIRE is retarded
[02:31] <sdlvx> it doesn't work in windows XP either
[02:31] <sdlvx> just this machine
[02:31] <sdlvx> and I suck at networking
[02:31] <sdlvx> which multiplies my problems
[02:32] <sdlvx> well maybe not suck but i don't like it at all
[02:32] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> graft: Why would havign MAC filtering on by default be bad? Then Macs would have trouble, and people would go with Linux. XD
[02:32] <sdlvx> the other network is B
[02:32] <sdlvx> but I tried setting my router to B and it still didn't work
[02:32] <ryjin> OK
[02:33] <ryjin> here is the message it's giving me
[02:33] <graft> WhtWolfTeraDyne: groan
[02:33] <ryjin> and yes i did mount it
[02:33] <ryjin> Access denied to /media/disk-1/Luther Vandross - A House Is Not A Home.mp3.
[02:33] <ADiCT3D> Hello, Can someone assist me in compliling Audacity with mp3 Support?
[02:33] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> graft: I'm tired, and I'm dreading what's going to happen in a few hours. Of course my jokes are going to be bad.
[02:33] <pyrotix> ADiCT3D, people will most likely will help you if you tell them what went wrong ;).
[02:34] <graft> WhtWolfTeraDyne: what happens in a few hours? bed time?
[02:34] <graft> ryjin: how is it mounted? read-only or read-write? and by which user?
[02:34] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> graft: I have to go through a pair of windows desktops. One I KNOW has a virus, and the other might, though I'm not sure. I've got to bring them back to life for someone.
[02:34] <ADiCT3D> pyrotix: i'd love to but i dont know all i know it it wont let me do it i have everything installed right but it wont include the libmad i have it installed but it is somehow not in local/System
[02:35] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !find libmad-dev
[02:35] <ubotu> Package/file libmad-dev does not exist in feisty
[02:35] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !find libmad0-dev
[02:35] <ubotu> Found: libmad0-dev
[02:35] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne, format c:\, install linux, problem solved :)
[02:35] <ADiCT3D> configure: libmad libraries are NOT available as system libraries
[02:36] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Can't install linux. The owner is blind, and needs the JAWS application for her screen reader.
[02:36] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: Install "libmad0-dev" and try compiling again.
[02:36] <ryjin> mounted by the owner , can view and  modify content
[02:36] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne, ok, well, that's a special case then :)
[02:37] <ADiCT3D> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Cool Thanks apparently it found in system but not local.
[02:37] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne, and i was j/k anyway...i get roped into doing that kind of stuff all the time too
[02:38] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: When you compile things, you usually need the development headers. THey usually have "-dev" at the end.
[02:38] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> headers and libraries*
[02:38] <ADiCT3D> WhtWolfTeraDyne: What about Flac now?
[02:38] <ADiCT3D> !flac
[02:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:39] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !find libflac-dev
[02:39] <ubotu> Found: libflac-dev
[02:39] <ADiCT3D> ok ty
[02:39] <ADiCT3D> *still learning* much appreciated for help
[02:39] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: No problem. Now, if only I can get a packaged version of SeaMonkey...
[02:39] <hitmanWilly> ADiCT3D, the whole -dev is mainly just an ubuntu (debian?) thing
[02:40] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: True. I should have mentioned that. Sorry.
[02:40] <ADiCT3D> hitmanWilly: I love debian i dislike other distro's Ubuntu/Knoppix is my fav PCLOS has got to be the worst linux distro ive tried.
[02:40] <hitmanWilly> for some reason, my gentoo box installs all the development libs/headers by default :P
[02:41] <hitmanWilly> ADiCT3D, i won't talk about RPM distros....
[02:41] <ADiCT3D> hitmanWilly: I hate rpm distro's :P
[02:41] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Wolvix... Best lightweight LiveCD EVAR!
[02:41] <ADiCT3D> hitmanWilly: I wanna compile everything from scratch :D
[02:42] <hitmanWilly> ADiCT3D, go gentoo then :P
[02:42] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: Slackware, or Gentoo, might be better then.
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> Don't worry, ADiCT3D, you'll get better soon
[02:42] <ADiCT3D> hitmanWilly: I'm addicted to Kubuntu. I never want to switch :P
[02:42] <hitmanWilly> hence the nick XD
[02:43] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BTW, Wolvix is Slax-based, IIRC, which is a Slackware-based LiveCD
[02:43] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Now, if we could only have something as light as Wolvix that's Ubuntu based...
[02:44] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne, good luck on that, buntu is probably the most bloated distro available right now
[02:44] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: SuSE...
[02:45] <hitmanWilly> suse isn't a distro anymore as far as im concerned
[02:45] <ADiCT3D> hitmanWilly: How is buntu most bloated i find the original debian bloated too much crap on it :P its like a 3DVD install
[02:45] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Ouch...
[02:45] <wimpies> anybody know if there is a special channel for openoffice ?
[02:46] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> wimpies: #openoffice
[02:46] <wimpies> no, just 3 users
[02:46] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> wimpies: seems to be dead, though.
[02:47] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> wimpies: It's the only one I see in english, besides the dev channel, of course.
[02:47] <hitmanWilly> ADiCT3D, yes, but it doesn't install EVERYTHING on those three dvds by default, it has you pick and choose, Ubuntu just does a kitchen sink install with every piece of cruft as a dependency of (k)ubuntu-desktop, so if you want to uninstall one part, it tries to dump everyhting
[02:47] <wimpies> I am struggling with the use of styles .
[02:48] <ADiCT3D> hitmanWilly: Okay i agree with that but i hate debian 3dvd :P
[02:48] <hitmanWilly> ADiCT3D, k, fair enough
[02:48] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Like trying to remove OpenOffice and Evolution... That's a pain...
[02:48] <hitmanWilly> :)
[02:48] <ShockValue> ok, ive started a SSH session from work to my home machine, and its running a proccess thats going to take a while.. but I'd like to see the results.. when I get home, is there someway for me to
[02:48] <ShockValue> connect to that session?
[02:49] <estoesderisa> Hey, how could I hide my OS on internet?
[02:49] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> wimpies: There's an OOo forum. You want the link?
[02:49] <hitmanWilly> btw, a net install of gentoo is about a 70 mb iso file, just saying
[02:49] <ADiCT3D> estoesderisa: From your browser? User agent changing.
[02:49] <theurs> net install og debian ~100
[02:49] <estoesderisa> Yes
[02:49] <ShockValue> estoesderisa: so you dont get crap for asking linux questions from a windows machine? :D
[02:50] <estoesderisa> :))
[02:50] <hitmanWilly> estoesderisa, well, konq can cloak itself to look like anything you want
[02:50] <ShockValue> well im asking linux questions from a windows machine.. but that's just cuz im stuck at work
[02:50] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> wimpies: http://www.oooforum.org/ < The OOo forum. Only one I know of, anyway.
[02:50] <ADiCT3D> hitmanWilly: Have you tried to googlebot hack?
[02:50] <FroggyTheGreat> Hey all
[02:51] <hitmanWilly> ADiCT3D, ?
[02:51] <estoesderisa> I found a firefox add-on, user agent switcher
[02:51] <estoesderisa> thanks
[02:51] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: ?
[02:51] <ADiCT3D> hitmanWilly: You can get into certain sites w/o registration using the Googlebot hack google it if your interested
[02:52] <FroggyTheGreat> I've got a 1680x1050 monitor that I can't get Kubuntu to properly display.  Anyone had any luck doing this?
[02:52] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I do have something to say about KOffice. It needs an interface that's more like MSOffice 2007.
[02:52] <FroggyTheGreat> It's an Acer that's not supported by name, and when I switch users, it suddenly defaults to the largest setting with 800x600 as the only other option.
[02:53] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Got to play around with MSO2007, Very nice interface.
[02:53] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !resfix
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !resolutionfix
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resolutionfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <hitmanWilly> ADiCT3D, ok, i see, basically the site thinks you're a google spider and lets you through, gotcha...
[02:53] <ADiCT3D> hitmanWilly: Yeah its a cool lil hack btw I GOT MP3 SUPPORT IN AUDACITY YAYYYYYYYY
[02:54] <hitmanWilly> :)
[02:54] <ADiCT3D> Thanks SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much guys!
[02:54] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !fixres
[02:54] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:55] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: Are you going to try to compile the latest version of DigiKam?
[02:55] <ADiCT3D> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Any new features worth doing it?
[02:55] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: Not really.
[02:56] <ADiCT3D> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Probably not then i needed the new features of Audacity.
[02:56] <ryjin> any suggestions?
[02:56] <pyrotix> FroggyTheGreat: have you tried messing around with your xorg.conf? I couldn't get my monitor to do proper resolution at first either.
[02:57] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: Ok. I was just going to mention that it was a pain for me to compile and package. Dependancy hell...
[02:57] <ADiCT3D> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Is it true that compiling gives better performance, Otherwise why do pplz do it?
[02:58] <ryjin> any suggestions?
[02:59] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: It's only a slight performance boost. Well, for me anyway. As for WHY people do it, it just depends on what the person needs. Like me. I want SeaMonkey, but there's no package, so I had to compile. And DigiKam crashed on me quite a bit, so I just compiled the new version to use.
[02:59] <ADiCT3D> WhtWolfTeraDyne: What is so big about seamonkey?
[02:59] <hitmanWilly> personnally, i like compiling since i can get rid of stuff that i don't need
[03:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: It's my favorite Gecko-based browser. Firefox runs like a slug for any computer I use.
[03:00] <hitmanWilly> for example, i have this box set up to compile out any kind of gnome integration
[03:01] <hitmanWilly> along with my gui-less mplayer :)
[03:01] <bandobloodybrast> WhtWolfTeraDyne: yeah it's weird how moz itself is faster than current firefox builds for some stuff, isn't it?
[03:02] <bandobloodybrast> Still find that a headscratcher
[03:02] <hitmanWilly> i have yet to find a web browser i really like, konq right now is the closest
[03:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> bandobloodybrast: No, not really. It's been like that since day 1.
[03:02] <bandobloodybrast> heh
[03:03] <bandobloodybrast> konq is flipping fantastic
[03:03] <hitmanWilly> that and the fact that the netscape source on which its based is fscking garbage
[03:03] <bandobloodybrast> today I needed to search through about 200 open tabs for a single page
[03:03] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Which one, SeaMonkey or Firefox?
[03:03] <bandobloodybrast> DCOP had it to me in about 2 seconds with no mouse clicks
[03:03] <hitmanWilly> both, imho, tho seamonkey less so
[03:04] <NickPresta> bandobloodybrast, DCOP is indeed awesome.
[03:04] <hitmanWilly> hello, im FF, can you say "memory leak" kids?
[03:05] <bandobloodybrast> Konqueror is like a knife through butter compared to FF too
[03:05] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: In their own words "It's not a bug, it's a feature."
[03:05] <bandobloodybrast> as long as you're judicious with the javascript
[03:05] <hitmanWilly> lol
[03:05] <bandobloodybrast> again, you can have a script watch and adjust that too if you want :)
[03:06] <hitmanWilly> aside from that, there's the bloat factor
[03:06] <bandobloodybrast> per tab thanks to dcop (I seem to be feeling the dcop love tonight)
[03:07] <bandobloodybrast> wot firefox?
[03:07] <hitmanWilly> for something that's supposed to be mozilla stripped down, it sure seems overly large to me
[03:08] <hitmanWilly> plus the bugginess factor
[03:08] <bandobloodybrast> Yep - and get a lot of animation and stuff going and it's horrendous
[03:09] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: It's not Mozilla "stripped down", it's Mozilla "XP Edition"
[03:09] <hitmanWilly> ive actually talked to very few people who just love FF, most of the time its more along the lines of, "Well, at least it isn't IE"
[03:09] <bandobloodybrast> So they strip it down and it gets more and more memory hungry?
[03:09] <bandobloodybrast> No wonder people confuse it for a gnome app, heh
[03:10] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: That's never a good thing. At least the Opera and Konq fans LIKE the apps.
[03:10] <hitmanWilly> like i said, tho, ive got issues with pretty much every web browser out there right now
[03:11] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hitmanWilly: Even Lynx?
[03:11] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne, crappy mouse support :)
[03:11] <bandobloodybrast> Yeah, I can honestly say I _like_ konqueror
[03:12] <ryjin> Anyone know why my music files won't go to my mp3? I have mounted it
[03:12] <hitmanWilly> as far as text browsers go, i like w3m more than most
[03:12] <bandobloodybrast> if I have to open ff because of something it's like 'dang, there goes half my memory, and here comes crappy fonts etc'
[03:12] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ryjin: "To your mp3"? Could you clarify that, please?
[03:12] <bandobloodybrast> I use w3m-el :)
[03:13] <NickPresta> bandobloodybrast, I would use Konqueror for 100% of my internet browsing but it lacks support for key extensions and it's KonqiJS just doesn't seem to work
[03:13] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> bandobloodybrast: That's why I compile my own version of SeaMonkey. I don't have to worry about the mem leak.
[03:13] <hitmanWilly> ryjin, do you have write perms to the device?
[03:13] <ryjin> transfer it from my computer to my mp3
[03:13] <ryjin> Yes, I do
[03:14] <hitmanWilly> ryjin, what errors does it give you when you try to copy the files over?
[03:14] <bandobloodybrast> NickPresta: key extensions... as in flutes?
[03:14] <FroggyTheGreat> Aaaaaargh
[03:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> FroggyTheGreat: ?
[03:14] <ryjin> acces denied
[03:14] <ryjin> acess*
[03:14] <FroggyTheGreat> So I ran the autodetect utility in the fixresolution factoid, and then it took me 15 minutes to get X-windows to actually display again.
[03:14] <bandobloodybrast> my daughter's woken up.
[03:15] <bandobloodybrast> night peeps
[03:15] <hitmanWilly> ryjin, that means you probably don't have write perms to it
[03:15] <ryjin> hmmm, thats strange
[03:15] <hitmanWilly> ryjin, try with sudo, see if that works
[03:15] <FroggyTheGreat> So...  Anyone had any /success/ getting an unsupported widescreen monitor to display with the right aspect ratio?
[03:16] <ryjin> How do I use Sudo with my mp3 now?
[03:16] <hitmanWilly> ryjin, how are you copying the files?
[03:16] <FroggyTheGreat> I mean, I use the KDE resolution applet, and the thing is so incredibly buggy I wonder if it's even looking at the xorg.conf.
[03:16] <pyrotix> I wish I had more bandwidth :(
[03:16] <ryjin> I'm dragging them
[03:16] <hitmanWilly> ryjin, ok, alt-f2, kdesu konqueror
[03:17] <anculz> http://rectum.antiville.fr/
[03:17] <anculz> http://rectum.antiville.fr/
[03:17] <hitmanWilly> ryjin, that will open konq with root (sudo) perms
[03:17] <ryjin> kk, sec
[03:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> someone kick ancluz
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> !spam
[03:18] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[03:18] <FroggyTheGreat> !fixresolution
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixresolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> WhtWolfTeraDyne, if it gets too annoying for you, just page the ops
[03:18] <FroggyTheGreat> So I did what that factoid recommended,,,and it didn't work.
[03:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !resfix
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> !fixres
[03:18] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:18] <poty_> help on amarok mp3 support / ayuda en el soporte mp3 para amarok
[03:19] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Whoops. Had it backwards...
[03:19] <ryjin> ok hitman I did it
[03:19] <hitmanWilly> !mp3 | poty
[03:19] <ubotu> poty: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:20] <hitmanWilly> ryjin, ok, can you drag your mp3s over now?
[03:20] <ryjin> checking
[03:21] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> poty_: "sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg"
[03:25] <Lopin> I have a question about installing across a network...
[03:25] <Lopin> For some reason, my installer keeps locking up...
[03:25] <Lopin> Any ideas?
[03:26] <hitmanWilly> brb
[03:26] <Error121> hello everyone
[03:27] <Error121> i was curious if anyone has heard of the nvidia closed drivers not detecting a monitor (that the open nv driver will)before?
[03:29] <ryjin> yea, it has work
[03:29] <ryjin> Thank you hitman
[03:32] <hitmanWilly> well, i was going to tell himhow to fix it so he could do it as a normal user, but oh, well.....
[03:34] <ADiCT3D> Anyone here use OCR that could reccomend a good OCR for digitizing Books/Printed media?
[03:34] <ADiCT3D> !ocr
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ocr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <Berto> hi - I'm trying to connect to my basic, no password samba share, and I keep getting this:   Connection to ;]  failed  ... anyone see this?
[03:57] <everythingevil> pastebin your smb.conf
[03:59] <everythingevil> !paste
[03:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:01] <snake_> i have no xkb extension. can anyone help me with this please
[04:11] <randy> Howdy, I have a quick question.  How do I get to the Alsa Configuration?
[04:11] <randy> from the konsole
[04:19] <BluesKaj> randy , alsamixer
[04:20] <randy> thanks
[04:20] <randy> just found it :D
[04:20] <randy> I cant get my sound to work in Diablo though >_<
[04:22] <randy> When I try to set my winecfg tooo ALSA i get this http://pastebin.com/d326375ea
[04:36] <chaotic> whats the reconfigure command  for xorg
[04:36] <chaotic> xsewrver
[04:37] <intelikey> dpkg-reconfigure xsewer-xorg
[04:37] <intelikey> server maybe
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[04:49] <chaotic> how can i create a sources.list
[04:50] <chaotic> i backed up the original
[04:50] <intelikey> !repos
[04:50] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:51] <chaotic> i already have the sources.list and backed up the  original
[04:52] <chaotic> im tring to get  it from desktop
[04:52] <chaotic> to etc/apt
[04:52] <chaotic> i know i need sudo right
[04:53] <chaotic> how would i move  sources.list from home/chaootic/desktop/ to /etc/apt
[04:53] <t43> hi all.  Total Newb question:  Is a Pentium M (centrino) a i686 or a x86?
[04:53] <t43> (please)
[04:54] <dr_willis> Yes... it is.. :)
[04:54] <crimsun> t43: both.
[04:54] <Dragnslcr> Probably i686, but it usually doesn't matter
[04:54] <dr_willis> x86 is generic term for the 86 compatiable stuff.. a i686 would also be a x86 i belive
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> !sourceslist
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourceslist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> chaotic: let me grab you a link to a souces.list generator
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> !easysource
[04:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the one.
[04:55] <t43> Hmm...I want to try Archlinux and I need to DL one of the two...
[04:56] <Admiral_Chicago> t43: open up your konsole. type: arch
[04:56] <Admiral_Chicago> thats your answer
[04:56] <intelikey> chaotic sudo mv /where/blah/is   /to/where/you/what/it/
[04:56] <dr_willis> 1686 would be the more specilized version.. x86 should work also...
[04:56] <t43> thanks very much
[04:57] <chaotic> where would i type sources.list
[04:57] <chaotic> beginning or end
[04:57] <dr_willis> AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-28   - is a i686 :) heh...
[04:57] <intelikey> chaotic s/is/sources.list/
[04:58] <intelikey> chaotic sudo mv ~/sources.list /etc/apt/
[04:58] <chaotic> home/chaotic/desktop/sources.list
[04:58] <chaotic> like that
[04:58] <intelikey> yep
[04:58] <t43> thanks agin
[04:59] <t43> whats that about
[04:59] <intelikey> actaully not   home/*   but  /home/*     however i do know the trubble with starting a line with / in the irc client
[04:59] <intelikey> /say /
[04:59] <chaotic> sudo mv /home/chaotic/Desktop/sources.list/ /etc/apt/
[04:59] <chaotic> like that
[04:59] <intelikey> like that
[05:00] <chaotic> wasnt ssure if i had to type to
[05:00] <dr_willis> 0_o
[05:01] <intelikey> and i got a level 3 long bowman killed in that exchange...
[05:01] <chaotic> mv: cannot stat `/home/chaotic/Desktop/sources.list/': Not a directory
[05:01] <dr_willis> since its a FILE you dont put a / on the end
[05:02] <intelikey>  /home/chaotic/Desktop/sources.list
[05:02] <dr_willis> or just cheat and use the 'mc' file manager
[05:02] <dr_willis> :)
[05:02] <intelikey> or kdesu konqueror
[05:02] <intelikey> :)
[05:02] <dr_willis> *shudder*
[05:02] <dr_willis> ya dont want to know the # of people ive seen trash things with that. :)
[05:03] <intelikey> and mc would need root perms too  ^
[05:03] <dr_willis>  i always set up the root account with BRIGHT RED theme/colors.
[05:03] <dr_willis> so if i do konqueror as root.. i can tell :)
[05:03] <chaotic> no errors  think i did it
[05:04] <dr_willis> verify the file is there. :)
[05:04] <NightBird> I don't know how I would copy a file to a directory that requires super user to write via the gui
[05:04] <intelikey> NightBird kdesu konqueror
[05:04] <dr_willis> NightBird,  thats why it pays to know the shell.
[05:05] <NightBird> intelikey: gah, that looks rediculously dangerous
[05:05] <NightBird> much more so than sudo mv
[05:05] <intelikey> but that's how
[05:05] <chaotic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30398/
[05:05] <chaotic> thats how my sources.list is
[05:05] <dr_willis> NightBird,  if you do it quickly, then close it  as soon as you are done... but thats the probolem. Ya dont notice which widow is the root one. :)
[05:05] <chaotic> is that right
[05:06] <chaotic> what do u guys find better for kubuntu adept  or sypnatic
[05:06] <dr_willis> use either one.. :)
[05:06] <dr_willis> I tend to use synaptic.  because im more used to it.
[05:07] <dr_willis> adept has some neat features however
[05:07] <chaotic> i heard theres a kypnatic
[05:07] <thunderbolt> I thought adept more or less replaced kynaptic...
[05:07] <jlowell> hi folks, is kubuntu exactly the same as using ubuntu and installing kde metapackage?
[05:07] <intelikey> chaotic looks like it should work,    sudo apt-get update     and see if it errors
[05:07] <NightBird> jlowell: that's the idea
[05:07] <dr_willis> jlowell,  well Kubuntu has no gnome.. :) but thats the core of it.
[05:07] <dr_willis> jlowell,  thats what i always do
[05:07] <chaotic> theres supposedly a new kde based  ubuntu deriavative
[05:08] <dr_willis> I install Ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop, and xubuntu-desktop
[05:08] <chaotic> ulteo
[05:08] <dr_willis> chaotic,  its the UbuntuOf TheWeekClub! :)
[05:08] <chaotic> made  by one of madrakes founders
[05:08] <jlowell> ok cool thx
[05:08] <intelikey> flavour of the month
[05:08] <dr_willis> Mandraubuntu
[05:08] <dr_willis> :)
[05:08] <chaotic> heh
[05:08] <faolan> yo
[05:08] <chaotic> u mean theres tons of  deriavatives
[05:08] <jlowell> chaotic: have you used ulteo?
[05:09] <chaotic> not only in alpha
[05:09] <dr_willis> chaotic,  i can think of 6 off the top of my head.. and proberly a dozen more i cant rember.
[05:09] <dr_willis> :)
[05:09] <intelikey> chaotic distrowatch.org
[05:09] <NightBird> speaking of operating systems... I need to work on mine..
[05:09] <dr_willis> LinuxMint(mintlinux?) is the one im using.
[05:09] <dr_willis> its a variant, that has its own 3 variants. :)
[05:10] <chaotic> i   gotta say the reason i dislike debian the lack of kde
[05:10] <jlowell> dr_willis: how do you like mint? im considering giving it a go
[05:10] <dr_willis> cant just apt-get install it?
[05:10] <NightBird> I have to get up early tomorrow for the flight out to my interview place...
[05:10] <dr_willis> jlowell,  it works fine for my needs.. I like its extra features..
[05:10] <NightBird> good night
[05:10] <intelikey> dr_willis not to mention that *buntu is a debian deriavitive
[05:11] <joje> somebody can helo me to installing tar balls??
[05:11] <dr_willis> joje,  totally depends on whats IN it. :)
[05:11] <jlowell> dr_willis: does 3.0 not have a kde version?
[05:11] <intelikey> !b-e | joje
[05:11] <ubotu> joje: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:11] <joje> yes
[05:11] <BluesKaj> sacktime ...nite all , take care
[05:11] <dr_willis> jlowell,  I just install the kubuntu-desktop on mintlinux. :)
[05:11] <dr_willis> jlowell,  they are making some tweaks and their own kde variant.
[05:12] <faolan> what's mintlinux?
[05:12] <dr_willis> a ubuntu Variant with some extra tweaks and polish, and codecs
[05:12] <dr_willis> or is it called LinuxMint.. I forget...
[05:13] <sfire> thats going to get annoying... got studiolinux also :(
[05:13] <kalorin`> anyone figured out how to make konqueror read raw camera files yet/
[05:13] <kalorin`> killin' me
[05:13] <kalorin`> picasa is available but only if you use wine
[05:13] <everythingevil> mints usfulness has kinda faded since feisty came out imo
[05:13] <kalorin`> which I'd prefer to avoid
[05:14] <sfire> what format are the files in?
[05:14] <dr_willis> kalorin,  i hear a non wine variaent is in the works.. but i use it as is now.. so whatever ya want. :) heh
[05:14] <sfire> tried thegimp?
[05:14] <kalorin`> crw, camera raw
[05:14] <dr_willis> gimp can do raw i thought
[05:14] <kalorin`> gimp is ok but trying to work with them is a pain
[05:14] <sfire> so have gimp convert them to another format
[05:14] <kalorin`> I have like 150 pictures from the competetion today, I don't have time to open and look at each one in gimp
[05:14] <chaotic> i read something at work i can mpount my windows partition
[05:14] <kalorin`> yeah thought about that
[05:15] <kalorin`> right now I'm picassa'ing them on the laptop under windowsand picking the ones to open with gimp
[05:15] <sfire> since they are raw do them in a lossless format
[05:15] <sfire> that way you won't lose quality
[05:15] <intelikey> chaotic  man pmount
[05:15] <kalorin`> don't need to do lossless to just look through them
[05:15] <chaotic> and u can mount olinux partition in windows
[05:15] <kalorin`> need to pick like 5 out of almost 150 though
[05:15] <kalorin`> it's a workflow issue
[05:15] <kalorin`> just need to do something
[05:15] <kalorin`> different
[05:15] <kalorin`> sucks
[05:16] <intelikey> chaotic there is extfs support for M$
[05:16] <dr_willis> Hmm.. Konqueror cant do thumbnails eh?
[05:16] <kalorin`> I'd really hate to go to vmware linux hosted on windows so I can use photoshop
[05:16] <kalorin`> :(
[05:16] <kalorin`> it can read the .thm's but not the files themselves
[05:16] <kalorin`> and the thm's are too small to see if things are in focus for instance
[05:16] <dr_willis> i wonder if that kde 'create html index/thubnail web page' thing works with raw format
[05:17] <intelikey> !PS
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <kalorin`> yeah
[05:18] <kalorin`> just need to work on the back end workflow
[05:18] <kalorin`> I should go to a workshop or something
[05:18] <kalorin`> http://www.popphoto.com/popularphotographyfeatures/4360/final-day-of-the-photographer-of-the-year-shoot-out.html
[05:18] <kalorin`> if you look at their favorites so far, I'm #15
[05:18] <kalorin`> )
[05:18] <kalorin`> :)
[05:19] <kalorin`> <---- semi-famous photographer!
[05:19] <chaotic> whats the mp3 codecs    for amarok
[05:19] <chaotic> what are they called
[05:19] <intelikey> kalorin`  heh it's not really helpful  but i have even used   [alt] +[ctrl] +[-]    to view thumb* pic.
[05:19] <kalorin`> yeah
[05:20] <kalorin`> it's just tough, and sadly it's one place that windows is better than linux, imaging software options
[05:20] <dr_willis> heh - or one of those Xmaganify tools.
[05:20] <kalorin`> native anyway
[05:20] <dr_willis> You are the one that decided to not use picassa. :)
[05:20] <dr_willis> Then again.. i rarely use it either..
[05:20] <dr_willis> It tends to find all my...err.. pics i want hidden.
[05:21] <kalorin`> well it's more a case of nothing really knowing anything about wine
[05:21] <kalorin`> and not wanting to have a bunch of crap on my system
[05:21] <kalorin`> it's just a time and learning thing
[05:21] <dr_willis> kalorin`,  theres nothing to know about wine.. the picassa package installs its own wine
[05:21] <dr_willis> at least i think it does
[05:21] <m4v3r1ck> chaotic:sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[05:21] <chaotic> dont u wish sometimes ubuntu would have a computer  icon where u have all file system and removable storage instead of cluttering ur desktop
[05:22] <intelikey> chaotic all filesystems are in /
[05:22] <dr_willis> chaotic,  I use the  'places' panel menu/applet for that
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> chaotic, you mean like the system menu?
[05:22] <dr_willis> system menu.. that may be its name
[05:23] <chaotic> yeah pretty much u ssee all the  drive s  including removable drives
[05:23] <intelikey> chaotic it's just a matter of mount points    (knowing your fs layout)
[05:24] <dr_willis> If Picasa2 is using wine.. i dont see how.. i got it going and no wine process's going...
[05:24] <dr_willis> chaotic,  try media:/  in the address bar?
[05:24] <jhutchins> dr_willis: It uses an internalised copy - if you looked at libraries, you might see it.
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> i hate when DE's try to mimic windows/mac
[05:24] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  interesting
[05:24] <kalorin`> interesting
[05:25] <jhutchins> dr_willis: That's one of the bad things about it, it doesn't use the existing/standard wine install, it duplicates the portions of it that it needs.
[05:25] <kalorin`> I like the gimp interface for actually working with the files, I just need something better than gimp/konqueror to sort/sift and pick the ones that I want to edit
[05:25] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  some would say thats a good thing.. :) it would suck troubleshooting all the wine variants.
[05:25] <kalorin`> that's where picassa would come in
[05:25] <dr_willis> !info pornview
[05:25] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yeah.   using things in common is one thing  but trying to look/feel like  is quite another
[05:25] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-7 (feisty), package size 223 kB, installed size 664 kB
[05:25] <dr_willis> Picasa breaks so many interface guidelines.. its amuseing..
[05:26] <dr_willis> but then again. even MS likes to break its own guidelines
[05:26] <kalorin`> yeah
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, im slowly coming around to your way of thinking, no desktop at all :P
[05:26] <intelikey> :)
[05:26] <chaotic> how can i make a shortcut  for the media icon
[05:26] <kalorin`> no desktop at all?
[05:26] <jhutchins> Mac's supposed to be really hard-line about interface guidelines, but I've seen more Mac software that didn't follow them than Windows.
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, CLI
[05:27] <kalorin`> oh yeah, can't do CLI Image editing :)
[05:27] <kalorin`> but yeah on servers, I prefer no GUI
[05:27] <intelikey> well i'm not in here trying to proselitize     but i'm not ashamed of who/what i am     :)
[05:27] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  then ya see mac stuff on windows.. that follows the mac guidelines.. not windows... heh
[05:27] <kalorin`> don't need the extra memory getting sucked up and more often than not that's the unstable parts
[05:27] <jhutchins> kalorin`: Ah, but there you're wrong.  I do most of my image manipulation from the CLI.
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> i think ill just stick to windowmaker for the time being
[05:27] <chaotic> ubuntu is for mac users and kubuntu is  for windows  users
[05:28] <chaotic> is what it come down too
[05:28] <kalorin`> jhutchins: uh, ASCII art?
[05:28] <kalorin`> : )
[05:28] <dr_willis> i dont find gnome to be that mac-ish really...
[05:28] <jhutchins> kalorin`: No, professional photo work for the web.
[05:28] <ali> Hey
[05:28] <jhutchins> kalorin`: ImageMagick.
[05:28] <chaotic> me personally i cant stand having  2 bars one up   top  one on bottom
[05:28] <ali> Someone here has problems with wifi in a hp pavilion?
[05:28] <dr_willis> so remove one. :)
[05:28] <chaotic> after i noticed i disliked gnome
[05:29] <dr_willis> I dislike the lack of features i use all the time in kde.. that are missing in gnome.
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> ali, what model? i run it in a dv8000
[05:29] <chaotic> someone told me  mac had basically  same thing i was like no wonder i didnt like gnome
[05:29] <intelikey> chaotic hmmm     when i use gnome i have one bar at bottom auto hiden.   when i use kde i have four bars one on each border  all auto hiden
[05:29] <ali> dv64l20
[05:29] <ali> i have a Broadcom 4310
[05:29] <ali> And i am running ubuntu.
[05:29] <ali> 64
[05:29] <ali> bits
[05:29] <ali> Hi hitman
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> ali, heh, broadcom
[05:29] <dr_willis> ali,  using 64bit MAY be the problem
[05:29] <ryjin> Hello
[05:30] <kalorin`> I put my dock/start menu on the left
[05:30] <jhutchins> !enter | ali
[05:30] <ali> mmm...
[05:30] <ubotu> ali: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:30] <kalorin`> and run in dual head mode
[05:30] <ryjin> Does anyone know the install sudo for Wine?
[05:30] <chaotic> i feel like im back to win95 having a bar uptop
[05:30] <kalorin`> I've always liked it on top but when I went to kubuntu I went to the left
[05:30] <jhutchins> !info wine | ryjin
[05:30] <chaotic> sudo wine name.exe
[05:30] <ubotu> ryjin: wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> ali, and a 64 bit build...good luck with that
[05:30] <kalorin`> it's been so long since I had an amiga i can't remember it ;)
[05:30] <intelikey> chaotic and when i use blackbox   i have no bar anywhere
[05:31] <ryjin> Where to find it?
[05:31] <dr_willis> kalorin`,  check out the AmigaInABox emulator setup :) some time.. its amuseing to go back to the old days
[05:31] <ali> hutchins?
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> ali, but seriously, you'll probably need to use ndiswrapper for that card
[05:31] <kalorin`> i so miss the days of a full pre-emptive multi-tasking OS running off a floppy with 640k of ram :)
[05:31] <kalorin`> WorkBench!
[05:31] <ali> i have used ndiswrapper
[05:31] <ali> i have installed the windows drivers...
[05:32] <ali> but when i load ndiswrapper, it stays at the prompt... without doing nothin
[05:32] <ali> g
[05:32] <ryjin> There is not sudo for wine then?
[05:32] <chaotic> how do i get kde wallet working with firefox
[05:33] <chaotic> sudo is just root access
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> ali, not too sure on that one, all i know is that broadcom cards usually require it
[05:33] <intelikey> kalorin`   "a full pre-emptive multi-tasking OS"   ibm-dos  ?
[05:33] <kalorin`> no amiga OS
[05:33] <intelikey> oh
[05:33] <chaotic> when u run something sudo wine name.exe
[05:33] <ali> Well i didn't know that, however, thanks a lot hitman Willy
[05:33] <ali> Well, maybe i can ask you other questions.
[05:33] <kalorin`> it was so good, and so poorly marketed
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> ali, that's what im here for :)
[05:34] <ali> I would like to have the midi, and all sound features at 100 %, do you have a suggestion?
[05:34] <ali> I mean... an advice?
[05:34] <intelikey> chaotic are you sure you want wine running as root ?
[05:34] <ali> I have installed
[05:34] <m4v3r1ck> chaotic: I think you can't. Use firefox's password manager, or konqueror instead of firefox
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> ali, is the sound not playing or you just want to adjust the volume levels?
[05:34] <ryjin> one more problem I have
[05:35] <ryjin> How do I get flash on konquerror
[05:35] <ali> let me tell you... I have installed Rosegarden, cause i sould like to make music
[05:35] <ali> but it says that the timer is too slow.
[05:35] <intelikey> !midi | ali unfortunately if your hardware doesn't support midi you have to use software to support it
[05:35] <ubotu> ali unfortunately if your hardware doesn't support midi you have to use software to support it: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> ryjin, if you install it from the repos, it should enable in konq by default
[05:36] <intelikey> thankfully i need none of that here.  midi is supported by my sound card
[05:36] <dr_willis> Hmm Ive noticed that now im using kde  3.5.7 - everything is defaultiung to the wrong monitor.. even the icons.. bummber
[05:36] <ali> I already have installed timmidity.
[05:36] <kalorin`> I haven't found any rhyme or reason as to where things open as far as which monitor and where
[05:36] <COONiA> oups
[05:37] <kalorin`> I haven't looked deeply into it, but I haven't see what why.
[05:37] <fede__> Alguienn habla espal?
[05:37] <fede__> hola
[05:37] <ali> Que hay fede
[05:37] <ali> Eres de azcapo?
[05:37] <intelikey> !es | fede__
[05:37] <ubotu> fede__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:37] <fede__> Soy de Argentina
[05:38] <ali> Ok,,, i will speak in english
[05:38] <dr_willis> kalorin,  well they used to always be on the 'lcd' - I just noticed today all the icons and stuff defaultong to the far left side..
[05:38] <jhutchins> !br | fede__
[05:38] <ubotu> fede__: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:38] <ryjin> how can i install it from the repo?
[05:39] <jhutchins> fede__: Los siento, hablo solo un poco de Espaol.
[05:39] <m4v3r1ck> In Argentina don't speak portugues XD
[05:39] <intelikey> !flash | ryjin
[05:39] <ubotu> ryjin: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> ryjin, try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:39] <jhutchins> m4v3r1ck: Sorry, it's late here.
[05:39] <ali> Is someone here a musician that uses UBUNTU?
[05:39] <ali> Fede qu tipo de ayuda necesitas?
[05:40] <jhutchins> m4v3r1ck: There's another channel I'm often in that combines the es and pt.
[05:40] <jhutchins> ali: mediabuntu
[05:40] <ali> mediabuntu??
[05:40] <m4v3r1ck> jhutchins: it's okay ;)
[05:40] <ali> Is he a guy? or a distro?
[05:40] <jhutchins> !mediabuntu
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <ali> jhutchins is that a distro?
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> !medibuntu
[05:40] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:41] <COONiA> french ?
[05:41] <jhutchins> ali: I think there's also a distro variant, and there's studiolinux as well.
[05:41] <intelikey> !fr > COONiA
[05:41] <jhutchins> !fr | COONiA
[05:41] <ubotu> COONiA: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> jhutchins, there's an actual multimedia distro, can't remember it off the top of my head tho
[05:42] <jhutchins> Obviously not the fastest draw tonight.  I think perhaps rum...
[05:42] <intelikey> :)
[05:42] <hamadooo> hi can someone help me with upgrading my wireless driver
[05:42] <thunderbolt> Hmm, anyone know a good tutorial or guide to apt-src, I want to build gimp 2.3 from source, but I'm tired of hunting down dependencies by hand.
[05:43] <dr_willis> i though there was a command that did all that.
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> thunderbolt, try installing apt-build
[05:43] <intelikey> there is
[05:43] <thunderbolt> hitmanWilly: Thanks
[05:43] <kalorin_> ha!
[05:43] <hamadooo> help plz
[05:43] <kalorin_> so I just crashed doing image manipulation
[05:43] <kalorin_> very nice
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> thunderbolt, it works more or less like emerge on gentoo
[05:43] <kalorin_> just locked solid, no numlock response for over a minute
[05:43] <kalorin_> heh
[05:44] <hamadooo> no one can help me here :(
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> !patience
[05:44] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:44] <intelikey> hamadooo " can someone help me with upgrading my wireless driver"  <<<< too vague
[05:45] <hamadooo> :)
[05:45] <thunderbolt> hitmanWilly: Cool, I don't have experience with emerge, I was going to try to build the subversion trunk version of GIMP, actually.
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> thunderbolt, ugh, svn is hell
[05:46] <intelikey> hamadooo if you want a dirrect nswer to that question    "yes"
[05:46] <thunderbolt> hitmanWilly: It's better than CVS, but I prefer Mercurial/Bzr, personally :)
[05:46] <hamadooo> so you can help me :)
[05:46] <intelikey> i didn't say that.  i said someone can
[05:46] <hamadooo> and where is that one ?
[05:47] <thunderbolt> hitmanWilly: What VCS do you use?
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> i generally don't worry about up to the minute code branches
[05:47] <hamadooo> i have the new driver .. and i want to remove the currrent driver first then install the new one
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> thunderbolt, ill grab cvs or svn repos every once in a great while, but only if that's the only way i can get a hold of them
[05:48] <chaotic> what do u guys  use as ur bit torrent client
[05:48] <ali> Thanks a lot for all the info
[05:48] <thunderbolt> hitmanWilly: I understand, I was thinking of getting GIMP development a little bit, that's why I want the trunk version.
[05:49] <chaotic> ktorrent isnt doing  it for  me
[05:49] <thunderbolt> hitmanWilly: That's also my policy when I'm deploying software to production software, I'm just going to install GIMP trunk into my home directory.
[05:49] <intelikey> modprobe -r blah && cp driver /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/something && modprobe blah           #hamadooo   now you get more specific and we will try to get more specific too.
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> thunderbolt, makes sense, but im really not a developer, more of a troubleshooter
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> :P
[05:50] <thunderbolt> :-D
[05:50] <hamadooo> ok intelikey :)
[05:50] <hamadooo> should i write this ...... modprobe -r blah && cp driver /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/something && modprobe blah
[05:50] <hamadooo> ??
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> thunderbolt, unless you count bash scripting as software development :) Lately, im trying to branch out a little bit and try to learn some C
[05:51] <intelikey> i would assume that  "blah" is not the module name,  and that "driver" is not the module name either    so no.  you use that as a very vague guide
[05:52] <intelikey> it contains information on where the module will be located and what command to use to manipulate it
[05:52] <thunderbolt> hitmanWilly: Right on, I'd personally recommend python, as well, but some experience in C never hurts.
[05:52] <hamadooo> so i have to change blah with my  wireless name
[05:52] <intelikey> yep
[05:52] <thunderbolt> It depends, how big were your bash scripts ;-)
[05:53] <intelikey> hamadooo   and you can use lsmod    to see the inserted modules
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> thunderbolt, i know a VERY little python, but ive been wanting to get into C/C++ for a while
[05:53] <hamadooo> ok
[05:53] <intelikey> hamadooo you say you have the new driver    there should be docs with it...
[05:53] <thunderbolt> Anything in particular, graphics, algorithms, or just general C/C++ ?
[05:53] <chaotic> what do u guys prefer koffice or open office
[05:54] <intelikey> read the README files,  that's why they have that name
[05:54] <thunderbolt> Openoffice, because I have to open MS documents :(
[05:54] <hamadooo> yeah in the helpp file .. it tells me that i should write chmod u+rx remove-old
[05:55] <intelikey> chaotic i prefer   less    for reading docs     mc -e    for writing them    :)
[05:55] <hamadooo> but when i do that . the terminal tells me this is a bad command
[05:55] <hamadooo> and there's n o file in this name
[05:55] <dr_willis> sounds like a script somewhere in the source tree...
[05:56] <intelikey> hamadooo ok  "remove-old"  should be a script in the root dir of the source  {after the build}    sounds like you need to compile
[05:56] <steveo1> anyone know how to get Divx stage 6
[05:56] <intelikey> !b-e | hamadooo
[05:56] <ubotu> hamadooo: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:57] <chaotic> i heard open office slows down linux
[05:57] <hamadooo> you mean compilling the new driver ?
[05:57] <intelikey> yeah
[05:57] <steveo1> yeah i guess
[05:57] <hamadooo> well im new user in linux
[05:57] <hamadooo> if you help me
[05:58] <intelikey>                          ^
[05:58] <steveo1> k
[05:58] <dr_willis> sounds like theres a bit of a learnign curve to climb first.
[05:58] <intelikey> steveo1 divx    hmmm    not sure.
[05:59] <intelikey> !divx
[05:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:59] <steveo1> i have divx4 but its obviously out of date
[05:59] <hamadooo> what is compilling means ?
[05:59] <dr_willis> converting source code to an executable..
[05:59] <thunderbolt> hamadooo: It's the conversation process from source code, that is easy for humans to read, to machine code, that the computer can execute.
[06:00] <intelikey> steveo1   never looked for stage 6     so idk
[06:00] <hamadooo> ok and how can i do that .. and what i need to compile something ??
[06:00] <intelikey> steveo1 you might have to build it.    do a google search for it
[06:00] <dr_willis> sounds like theres a LOT of a learnign curve to climb.
[06:01] <intelikey> hamadooo  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware  <<< start there.
[06:01] <critola> test
[06:01] <hamadooo> ok i'll read now
[06:01] <intelikey> boo
[06:01] <hamadooo> and i'll be back :)
[06:01] <intelikey> :)
[06:01] <steveo1> ive searched but couldnt find one specifically for linux and my wine program wont update for some reason
[06:02] <thunderbolt> xvid used to work, but that was back in the day...
[06:03] <thunderbolt> er, MPEG-4 type, thingy *waves arms*
[06:03] <intelikey> steveo1 oh  i don't know if anyone evermentioned using   google.com/linux   for searches    sometimes it helps
[06:03] <steveo1> im kinda new at this too, so i dont know how to begin building a drive
[06:03] <steveo1> *r
[06:03] <steveo1> ok ill give it a try
[06:04] <intelikey> actually google hates me in general, so you might be better off not listening to me.  ;/
[06:05] <hamadooo> im back
[06:05] <hamadooo> ok can you help  me to compile the driver files ?
[06:05] <arun> Using Konqueror, is there any way to arrange files in groups?
 lol. there is a  6.1.1 codec, is that it?
[06:06] <intelikey> steveo1 i guess so
  what is a codec exactly, like a plugin?
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> steveo1, sorta, more like a library
[06:08] <intelikey> steveo1 well yah  more like a filter that an app uses
[06:08] <steveo1> oh alright
[06:09] <hamadooo> intelikey
[06:09] <intelikey> hamadooo did you install build-essential ?
[06:09] <hamadooo> no what is   that
[06:10] <intelikey> you didn't read the page.
[06:10] <hamadooo> no i did wait i will download it now
[06:10] <critola> arun: What sort of grouping did you have in mind for your files?
[06:11] <hamadooo> IM DOWNLOADING IT ..... SO I NEED THIS TO COMPILE
[06:11] <intelikey> you didn't read the page.
[06:12] <steveo1> whats the terminal command to login as root
[06:12] <hamadooo> i did but not all the page cuz it seems like .. i should know some programs langugage to compile
[06:13] <chaotic> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/E2007?content=57093
[06:13] <chaotic> how do i install that
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> steveo1, either su or sudo -i
[06:13] <dr_willis> !theme
[06:13] <intelikey> i don't mind someone that says "don't post url's to me i'm not going to read them"  but someone that says "i'm going to read it now,  and i'm back from reading it"   then proves they didn't read it.    well that's just lying,  and i got tired of lies long ago.
[06:13] <dr_willis> :)
[06:13] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:13] <dr_willis> skimming is not reading.
[06:14] <chaotic> i know where to get them
[06:14] <hamadooo> no believe me iim not lying .. but i don't understand in programing thiings
[06:14] <chaotic> but how to apply them i downloaded that one
[06:14] <dr_willis> theres a guide somewhere that tells you all about insgtalling the kde theme parts
[06:14] <intelikey> dr_willis and the info is in the first paragraph too      i mean come on....
[06:14] <hamadooo> im just a user noraml
[06:15] <intelikey> new driver
[06:15] <dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <hamadooo> i just want to upgrade my wireless driver
[06:15] <hamadooo> remove the old and use the new one
[06:15] <dr_willis> your existing wireless driver works?
[06:15] <hamadooo> yes im using it now
[06:16] <dr_willis> dare we ask why you want to mess with the newer one then?
[06:16] <dr_willis> :)
[06:16] <intelikey> Hobbsee please ban me.   so i'll have an excuse
[06:16] <dr_willis> Most wireless users would be thankfull they can get wireless going at all.
[06:16] <dr_willis> :)
[06:17] <baxtor> Hey guys, im having a major problem trying to get my Ati drivers to work on kubuntu 7.04, is there a fool proof step by step guide i can follow?
[06:17] <hamadooo> because i want to use kismet but i can't ....... someone told me  the problem is that your driver is old you have to install new one
[06:17] <dr_willis> baxtor,  whats the video card?
[06:17] <Hobbsee> intelikey: excuse for what?
[06:17] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  that may break the existing one.. and doing things from source may make it very hard to get it back to normal without a reinstall.
[06:17] <intelikey> to leave someone hanging
[06:17] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  is that a risk you are willing to take?
[06:18] <mortici> Good evening fine gentlemen, would anyone be willing to help with a small sound issue
[06:18] <baxtor> its a 9800 PRO SE
[06:18] <hamadooo> well .. if there's no other way to use kismet ..... so i'll do it :P
[06:18] <mortici> what is the standard device to output sound and what udev rules file manages permissions for it?
[06:19] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  good luck then...
[06:19] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  you got some basics/learning to do. :)
[06:19] <kalorin_> baxtor, I've got an x700
[06:19] <kalorin_> works ok
[06:19] <hamadooo> i thought you will help me with that :P
[06:19] <kalorin_> using the ATI drivers
[06:19] <dr_willis> install the build-essential for a start.
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> mortici, /dev/sound is the device, not sure how udev manages it though
[06:19] <mortici> awsome thanks
[06:20] <dr_willis> Other then that.. i dont mess with wireless, and ive never installed a kernel module from source under ubuntu.
[06:20] <hamadooo> is there a risk when i compile something ??????
[06:20] <arun> hamadooo: yes
[06:20] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  no.. the risk will be messing with the kernel drivers/modules and perhaps  confusing things
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> hamadooo, compiling, not really, installing, yes
[06:20] <steveo1> as root how do i start navigating to a folder
[06:20] <dr_willis>  you can compile 'normal' things all ya want.. a driver is not a normal thing
[06:21] <arun> Using Konqueror, is there any way to arrange files in groups? I don't mean just sorting by file types, or other criteria, I mean sorting them and then arranging them in groups.
[06:21] <dr_willis> normal as in 'a user type program'
[06:21] <mortici> seems that /dev/sound doesn't exist
[06:21] <hamadooo> can i just install the driver without compilling...... like others prograams in ubuntu
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> mortici, sorry, borked you on that one, its /dev/audio
[06:22] <mortici> hitmanWilly: that also does not exist
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> ?
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> hold on a sec
[06:22] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  most likely No...
[06:22] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  unless you manage to find a precompiuled ubuntu package for it.
[06:22] <mortici> hitmanWilly: weird i know sound worked fine before, after an update i lost it
[06:22] <hamadooo> this is bad ......... i really want to use kismet
[06:22] <baxtor> i have had this graphics card working on ubuntu 6.14 with beryl, but im having problems on this, this is a freash install and i havnt downloaded any packages, should i update the o/s first?
[06:23] <arun> what does kismet do?
[06:23] <hamadooo> some ppl told me that the problem with the driver and some told me with kismet
[06:23] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  then you got a few days+ of reading/learning to do.
[06:23] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  what if they are wrong. :)
[06:23] <hamadooo> im reading sinve 1 week
[06:23] <hamadooo> nothing new :)
[06:23] <hamadooo> since*
[06:23] <dr_willis> !info kismet
[06:23] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (feisty), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[06:24] <dr_willis> unless you really understand wireless networking.. i doubt if kismet will do more then just keep you enterained for a few min...
[06:24] <hamadooo> someone told me that this virgin is old ..... the one with ubuntu .
[06:24] <dr_willis> then you will scratch your head and 'wonder what all that means' and then go on with the next task.
[06:25] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  proberly is a bit old. ubuntu updates every 6 m0. with a new release.
[06:25] <dr_willis> next release is due in... Hmm.... i forget
[06:25] <dr_willis> !release
[06:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[06:25] <arun> october
[06:25] <dr_willis> !gutsy
[06:25] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[06:25] <arun> It releases in October
[06:25] <dr_willis> Spiffy
[06:25] <dr_willis> :)
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> mortici, ok, dumb question, did you check the mixer settings?
[06:26] <hamadooo> :)
[06:26] <dr_willis> of course the next linux kernel does a lot of tweaks and improvements to the wirless networking features i hear also...
[06:26] <dr_willis> not sure if that will be in the oct. release however.
[06:26] <hamadooo> then i will have to update the kernel ?
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis, is that the .22 kernel?
[06:27] <arun> Using Konqueror, is there any way to arrange files in groups? I don't mean just sorting by file types, or other criteria, I mean sorting them and then arranging them in groups.
[06:27] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  i forget.. just been reading some news on it.
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis, or a later one yet to come?
[06:28] <mortici> hitmanWilly: its not loading my modules
[06:28] <mortici> i think its a alsa mismatch issue
[06:28] <mortici> trying to resolve now
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> mortici, quite possibly, since its external to the kernel in buntu IIRC
[06:29] <hamadooo> ok guys how can i search for a program in terminal
[06:29] <dr_willis> Apt Fundamentalks
[06:30] <dr_willis> !apt
[06:30] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:30] <dr_willis> apt-cache search whatever
[06:30] <mm_202> Hey guys, quick question.  How barebones (as in small memory footprint, fast boot time) can I get kubuntu?  Im considering installing it in my car instead of windows xp.
[06:30] <Hobbsee> mm_202: you may want xubuntu for that
[06:30] <dr_willis> mm_202,  heh, going to use a touchscreen monitor?
[06:30] <mm_202> Yeah, will the ts work?  :S
[06:30] <dr_willis> may want to check out the matchbox window manager also.
[06:30] <dr_willis> mm_202,  thats a good question... No idea. on the TS
[06:31] <hamadooo> i mean searching for a program in my computer
[06:31] <dr_willis> Going to be IRCing from the highway?
[06:31] <mm_202> Or should I just start with debian and just custom build it?
[06:31] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  'find' or 'locate' command.
[06:31] <hamadooo> program i already installeddd ?
[06:31] <mm_202> lol, I use it for music and movies.
[06:31] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  or fire up the package manager and look at eh package/programs details and see what files it put where.
[06:32] <dr_willis> mm_202,  i was thinking there were a few carpc linux variants out.
[06:32] <dr_willis> but i dont have one.. so i dident pay much attention to the articals
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> hamadooo, start typing and hit <tab>
[06:32] <hamadooo> i removed the program from package/program ....... i just want to make sure the the program is no longer in my  pc
[06:32] <chaotic> what do u guys suggest the best linux newsreader  for  downloading .nzb  headers
[06:32] <mm_202> Yeah, Ive seen a few, like MediaPC and such, but I just want something more generic/mainstream
[06:33] <surgy> how do i chain commands in an application link? for example, i want to run both everquest and macroquest in the same instance of cedega through one application link, i have currently been trying, "cedeg everquest.exe patchme MacroQuest2.exe" in the command field and all the necesary files and associations are in the shared working directory, only everquest runs and it seams as though macroquest isnt even initialized
[06:33] <surgy> sorry for the spam
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> hamadooo, dpkg -l | grep <program_name>
[06:33] <hamadooo> hitmanwilly ,... start typing what ?
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> hamadooo, sorry, thought you couldn't remember the cmd for it
[06:34] <hamadooo> how do you know all this commands guys ?
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> hamadooo, experience :)
[06:34] <surgy> anyone?
[06:34] <hamadooo> lol i know ........ but if i want to learn this  commands .. is there a site or something
[06:35] <underdog5004> hamadooo, just search for "bash tutorial"
[06:35] <hamadooo> ok
[06:35] <dr_willis> reading is FUNdamental
[06:35] <underdog5004> wow, looks like they did a major update to gutsy over the weekend...
[06:35] <underdog5004> dr_willis, that means the mental part is fun?
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> surgy use a ; to seperate the cmds
[06:36] <surgy> kewl
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> surgy, or make a quick script to run them both and run that from the shortcut
[06:37] <hamadooo> how can i use build-essential to compile a program ??
[06:37] <surgy> good idea
[06:37] <underdog5004> hamadooo, do you have the source?
[06:37] <underdog5004> source code for the program you want?
[06:37] <hamadooo> not really i just want to know how :)
[06:37] <underdog5004> lol, ok
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get build-src <package>
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc
[06:38] <underdog5004> basically, get into the directory where the makefile is, type in ./configure
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> hamadooo, the usual way is ./configure && make && sudo make install from the app dir
[06:38] <underdog5004> then make && sudo make install
[06:38] <hamadooo> ahaa
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-get source actually
[06:39] <underdog5004> the only time I compile anything is if it's not in the repos, or if I want a newer version of something, eg. rtorrent
[06:39] <hamadooo> and why in windows we  don't need to compile the programs ??????
[06:39] <underdog5004> because we're cool, and they're not
[06:39] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  they do it for you.
[06:39] <vzduch> install checkinstall & let it build a .deb that you can later uninstall w/ dpkg -r, if you wish
[06:39] <underdog5004> because you get a pre-compiled binary.
[06:39] <dr_willis> hamadooo,  ive rarely needed to compile stuff under ubuntu.
[06:40] <dr_willis> "get a room you 2!" :)
[06:40] <arun> Does Kubuntu use an older version of Konqueror?
[06:40] <hamadooo> yeah but if you need a new vergin  you should compile :)
[06:41] <hamadooo> since 3 weeks :P
[06:41] <arun> How do I get it to arrange files in groups? The option doesn't seem to be there
[06:41] <underdog5004> arun, I'm using dolphin, since I use firefox for web stuff...it's lighter.
[06:41] <underdog5004> hamadooo, version, not vergin...it's software, not a nerdy teen
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:42] <hamadooo> lol sorry ...... bad in english :P
[06:42] <underdog5004> no problem, what's your native language?
[06:42] <hamadooo> im from kuwait ........ arabic
[06:42] <underdog5004> wow
[06:43] <hamadooo> :)
[06:43] <arun> underdog5004: can you arrange files in groups using dolphin?
[06:44] <underdog5004> not sure, let me check
[06:44] <underdog5004> looks like it, just right click, view mode, and there are three options.
[06:44] <arun> I can't find a way to do it in Konqueror.. I found some dev page on the KDE web site that said that Konqueror has the "Show in groups" option, but I can't see it in my Konqueror
[06:45] <arun> underdog5004: what options
[06:45] <underdog5004> icons, details, previews
[06:46] <arun> can you sort them by type and then arrange them in groups according to file type?
[06:47] <underdog5004> nope, sorry...doesn't look like that's implented...what file type are you looking for?
[06:47] <raylu> can anyone recommend a ftpd?
[06:47] <dr_willis> arun,  check the kde-look.org site may be some Konqueror addon/plugin thing
[06:47] <underdog5004> raylu, do something that supports sftp
[06:47] <raylu> i already have sshd
[06:47] <arun> dr_willis: will do, thanks
[06:47] <dr_willis> ssh >> ftp. :)
[06:47] <raylu> right
[06:47] <underdog5004> arun, or, cd to the dir and do ls -a | grep whatever
[06:47] <raylu> but now i want ftp too
[06:48] <underdog5004> ssh + scp = safe and happy
[06:48] <raylu> =\
[06:48] <dr_willis> apt-cache search ftp, and pick one. :) what one woudl be best for you.. depends on your needs..
[06:48] <vzduch> hitmanWilly: http://www.bash.org/?138676
[06:48] <raylu> i've tried that, dr_willis
[06:48] <dr_willis> be sure to read the programs docs also on proper confoiguration of it.
[06:48] <raylu> and that's why i'm here ^^
[06:48] <raylu> i'm not going to keep installing them until i find the one i want
[06:48] <underdog5004> that may be what you have to do
[06:48] <raylu> im just going to be a small server, hopefully multi-user
[06:48] <dr_willis> so far youve not really given much details on your needs...
[06:48] <raylu> so simple, but not too simple/restrictive
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:49] <dr_willis> sort of blue.. but not too blue...
[06:49] <creyo> Who's up?
[06:49] <raylu> \=
[06:49] <underdog5004> if it's on a lan that's connected to the internet, do sftp. there are many flaws with standard ftp, many of which I don't know.
[06:49] <raylu> ok, how about "not restrictive"
[06:49] <raylu> but the sftp server doesn't remember the last command
[06:49] <underdog5004> just wom
[06:49] <dr_willis> They all are configurable..  to a great extent.
[06:49] <raylu> i often find myself re-uploading the same file over and over
[06:49] <vzduch> hitmanWilly: http://bash.org/?88575
[06:50] <steveo1> anyone mind helping me figure someting out
[06:50] <underdog5004>  yeah, what's up?
[06:51] <vzduch> !anyone | steveo1
[06:51] <ubotu> steveo1: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:51] <raylu> http://pastecode.org/52
[06:51] <raylu> cygwin says that the connection was indeed rejected
[06:52] <underdog5004> steveo1, what's the problem?
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:52] <steveo1> i downloaded the codec for divx6, and when i went to install it in the terminal all it did was bring up the license agreement and didnt install
[06:52] <underdog5004> steveo1, did you agree to the license agreement?
[06:53] <dr_willis> steveo1,  hit 'q' to quit the file viewer, then enter y or yes?
[06:53] <dr_willis> i dont rember seeing that with divx... hmm..
[06:53] <dr_willis> thunderstorms here.. bye all..
[06:53] <underdog5004> lol, he loves his computer
[06:54] <steveo1> it just said (END) and i couldnt continue
[06:54] <underdog5004> steveo1, try hitting enter
[06:54] <underdog5004> or tab then enter
[06:54] <arun> nope, can't find anything that will show files in groups
[06:54] <raylu> help anyone?
[06:54] <steveo1> word
[06:54] <word> ?
[06:55] <underdog5004> raylu, ftp stuff? I think you may have to just test some out...read some man pages, it'll do you good, lol
[06:55] <raylu> [23:51:18]  <raylu> http://pastecode.org/52
[06:55] <raylu> [23:51:31]  <raylu> cygwin says that the connection was indeed rejected
[06:56] <underdog5004> why in the world is it trying to connect to an Xserver?
[06:57] <underdog5004> is the ftp client a gui or cli app?
[06:57] <arun> I also need some help with buying an external hard drive. I found one that's a bit expensive, but the store owner said it will work with Windows, Mac and Linux. I went to another store and am getting a Seagate for much lesser, but what he suggested is that I buy a hard drive and case separately, and he will install it together. He said it will only work on Windows OR Mac, not both
[06:57] <Daisuke-Ido> arun: that man is a retards
[06:57] <Daisuke-Ido> -s
[06:58] <ross_> hi guys
[06:58] <maltaethiron> agreed
[06:58] <underdog5004> arun, I wouldn't worry about it
[06:58] <underdog5004> a hard drive is a hard drive is a hard drive.
[06:58] <Daisuke-Ido> if it's hfs+, sure it will only work with a mac.  what matters is how you format it.
[06:58] <hitmanWilly> arun, all three of my hds are seagates, and they work quite well
[06:58] <ross_> im trying to install kismet, however when i do ./configure it gives me these 2 errors.."
[06:58] <ross_> checking for special C compiler options needed for large files... no
[06:58] <ross_> checking for _FILE_OFFSET_BITS value needed for large files... 64
[06:58] <ross_> checking for _LARGE_FILES value needed for large files... no
[06:58] <ross_> checking for main in -luClibc++... no
[06:58] <ross_> checking for main in -lstdc++... no
[06:58] <Daisuke-Ido> that man doesn't know anything about computers
[06:58] <Daisuke-Ido> ross_: sudo apt-get install kismet
[06:58] <Daisuke-Ido> oi
[06:58] <steveo1> it started to install but i dont think it did
[06:58] <ross_> which package should i apt-get ?
[06:58] <ross_> oh
[06:59] <ross_> yeah that would be easier :)
[06:59] <Daisuke-Ido> much :)
[06:59] <arun> He said that if you use it with Windows first, then it will only work with Windows, and if you use it with a Mac first then it will only work with Macs. If you need to use it with both, then you need to install some weird software or something
[06:59] <raylu> underdog5004, that's a gui cli :P
[06:59] <raylu> o.0
[06:59] <raylu> it works!
[06:59] <raylu> awesome.
[06:59] <Daisuke-Ido> arun: ignore him.
[06:59] <raylu> i'm trying to get my cli server to act as a x "server" for gui apps :D
[06:59] <arun> Daisuke-Ido: how do i format it?
[06:59] <hitmanWilly> arun, he's talking about formatting the drive
[06:59] <raylu> now i have amarok on windows :D :D :D :D :D
[06:59] <ross_> : Couldn't find package kismet
[06:59] <raylu> wow...amarok sure has changed
[06:59] <Daisuke-Ido> !find *kismet*
[06:59] <ubotu> Found: E:
[06:59] <underdog5004> arun, he's a retard...or a smart guy hoping you're a retard...
[06:59] <ross_> Daisuke-Ido: which file do i need to edit to add the repository?
[06:59] <Daisuke-Ido> that helps
[07:00] <Daisuke-Ido> it's in universe
[07:00] <Daisuke-Ido> are you using feisty?
[07:00] <ross_> yeah but im really newb, whats the commands :) *step by step*
[07:00] <arun> underdog5004: I told him how will that work? It's a hard drive, it should work with everything. He's like no it wont, and he was adamant. I was like wtf
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> arun, macs can't read ntfs and windows can't read whatever fs mac uses
[07:00] <underdog5004> like I said...
[07:00] <underdog5004> lol
[07:01] <underdog5004> was it at best buy?
[07:01] <Daisuke-Ido> there shouldn't be any step by step, universe should be enabled already
[07:01] <ross_> well i guess not
[07:01] <arun> hitmanWilly: how do i format it so that i can use it with windows/mac/linux
[07:01] <underdog5004> !fat
[07:01] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:01] <ross_> Reading package lists... Done
[07:01] <ross_> Building dependency tree
[07:01] <ross_> Reading state information... Done
[07:01] <ross_> E: Couldn't find package kismet
[07:01] <Daisuke-Ido> arun: if you want to use it r/w with all three, use fat32
[07:01] <underdog5004> arun, I would simply format as NTFS
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> arun, you want to use it with all 3 systems?
[07:01] <arun> yes
[07:01] <underdog5004> oh...except for the mac...lol
[07:01] <Daisuke-Ido> underdog5004: that's really REALLY dumb.
[07:01] <Daisuke-Ido> :D
[07:01] <underdog5004> yes. I know
[07:01] <arun> fat32 is only upto 32GB, right?
[07:01] <underdog5004> arun, no
[07:01] <ross_> Daisuke-Ido:  i remeber doing this before, there is a file i need to edit and add a location for some other repository..
[07:02] <arun> no?
[07:02] <Daisuke-Ido> wait, yes.
[07:02] <hitmanWilly> arun, fat32 would probably be your best option then
[07:02] <Daisuke-Ido> i forgot what question i was answering :\
 it didnt do anything
[07:02] <arun>  When I tried partitioning my hard drive with Windows, it said FAT32 partitioned logical drives can't be larger than 32gb
[07:02] <ross_> adding repositorys to install kismet
[07:02] <ross_> with apt-get
[07:02] <pagan0ne> im having trouble mounting a usb drive under kubuntu 7.04 (64 bit) can someone help me?
[07:03] <Daisuke-Ido> ross_: open adept manager
[07:03] <Daisuke-Ido> and go to manage repositories
[07:03] <Daisuke-Ido> (to others, i find this easier than telling someone to edit sources.list manually)
[07:03] <underdog5004> steveo1, bummer. I've never installed that codec...
[07:03] <hitmanWilly> arun, that's logical partitions, a fresh hd shouldn't have that issue IIRC
[07:03] <underdog5004> vlc plays everything for me...
[07:03] <ross_> Daisuke-Ido: ok im in manage repositorys
[07:04] <Daisuke-Ido> one second
[07:04] <mortici> what is the plugin for kde that allows qt skins for gtk apps like firefox
[07:04] <Daisuke-Ido> ross_: what's checked on that first tab?
[07:05] <Daisuke-Ido> another way to do this, make sure the choice ending with (universe) is checked
[07:05] <ross_> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/     edgy
[07:05] <Daisuke-Ido> you're not using feisty.
[07:05] <steveo1> underdog5004, it created and inflated a few things then stopped
[07:05] <ross_> there is 2 universe'
[07:05] <steveo1> you think i should try again?
[07:05] <pagan0ne> once i plug in a usb drive (assuming it doesnt auto mount, and use works properly) where should i go about looking for it under /dev ? i checked for sd* but the only sd* drives i see are my 2 sata drives im running off of...
[07:06] <Daisuke-Ido> i think kismet may not be in edgy's repos
[07:06] <ross_> Daisuke-Ido:  there is deb and deb-src
[07:06] <arun> This is from Wikipedia: Using Konqueror, is there any way to arrange files in groups? I don't mean just sorting by file types, or other criteria, I mean sorting them and then arranging them in groups.
[07:06] <arun> ah damn, sorry
[07:06] <Daisuke-Ido> one is binary, one is source packages.
[07:06] <arun> This is from Wikipedia: The maximum possible size for a file on a FAT32 volume is 4 GiB minus 1 Byte (232?1 bytes). For most users, this has become the most nagging limit of FAT32 as of 2007, since video capture and editing applications and some other software can easily exceed this limit.
[07:06] <underdog5004> steveo1, like I said, I've got no experience with that.
[07:06] <Daisuke-Ido> yeah, don't plan on storing large files like dvd images on a fat32 drive
[07:07] <ross_> so Daisuke-Ido
[07:07] <Daisuke-Ido> ross_: no idea
[07:07] <ross_> Daisuke-Ido: what do i do in manage repository's ?
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> arun, that's the only fs that all three systems can read/write as far as i know
[07:07] <Daisuke-Ido> nothing, you're not using feisty, so the adept versions are completely different, so that way isn't going to work
[07:07] <Daisuke-Ido> hitmanWilly: ext2 with 3rd party drivers for windows.
[07:08] <arun> Daisuke-Ido: So basically I should get the cheaper Seagate hard drive, and then format it to FAT32? What application could I use to format it?
[07:08] <Daisuke-Ido> gparted :)
[07:08] <hitmanWilly> hmm, didn't know those existed
[07:08] <Daisuke-Ido> hitmanWilly: i hear they're actually quite nice
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> hmm, interesting
[07:09] <pagan0ne> Daisuke-Ido: ive tried them under vista, and reccomend NOT using Vista... PERIOD
[07:09] <Daisuke-Ido> pagan0ne: that's a given
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> anyway, im off to bed, later
[07:10] <Daisuke-Ido> vista is the ultimate sin
[07:10] <Daisuke-Ido> hitmanWilly: good idea, think i'm going to do the same and you just left so MEH :(
[07:11] <mortici> what is the plugin for kde that allows gtk apps to be themed?
[07:12] <arun> Daisuke_Ido: thanks for all your help
[07:12] <mortici> nvm i got it
[07:13] <arun> should i use gparted or qtparted?
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> gparted, much more stable, imo
[07:13] <arun> alright, thanks
[07:14] <raylu> what is the command to start xfce?
[07:14] <raylu> qtparted, looks much nicer ^^
[07:14] <arun> Daisuke_Ido: and it won't limit me to 32GB, right? :)
[07:14] <underdog5004> startxfce?
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> raylu: if it doesn't work for crap, it doesn't matter how nice it looks
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> arun: in theory
[07:17] <arun> Daisuke_Ido: what if i buy the hard drive and it doesn't get formatted? it's 250gb
[07:17] <arun> should i risk it?
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> if nothing else, you can format it ext2 and install the free (as in speech) ext2 driver for windows
[07:20] <ross_> Hi guys, what is the repository i need to add to "apt-get install kismet" ??? please i juust did a french install of kubuntu 6.10 and want to know which repository to add to download and install kismet
[07:20] <ross_> thanks
[07:21] <kalorin_> !kismet
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kismet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <kalorin_> I've never heard of it
[07:21] <kalorin_> well, no, I've heard of a game named kismet
[07:21] <ross_> nop not a game
[07:21] <ross_> a wireless tool
[07:22] <kalorin_> oh no idea sorry
[07:22] <arun> Daisuke_Ido: thanks again for all your help, appreciate it
[07:22] <kalorin_> is there a wiki page?
[07:22] <ross_> most likley
[07:23] <Daisuke_Ido> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/kismet
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> if you have universe enabled, you need to sudo apt-get update
[07:24] <kalorin_> hahahaha
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> and try installing it again
[07:24] <kalorin_> daniel pearl's widow is sueing al queda!
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> ffs
[07:24] <ross_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kismet
[07:24] <kalorin_> I should sue them for stock losses resulting from 911 as well!
[07:24] <kalorin_> class action!
[07:24] <kalorin_> I'm sure we can garnish their wages
[07:24] <kalorin_> how stupid
[07:25] <ross_> hey guys
[07:25] <arun> can gparted be used for defragmenting drives?
[07:25] <ross_> i messed up my apt .list file
[07:25] <ross_> how do i edit it?
[07:25] <ross_> whats the location to it
[07:26] <steveo1> how do i figure out the installation path of firefox
[07:26] <mm_202> steveo1: find / -name firefox
[07:26] <raylu> thanks, underdog5004
[07:26] <raylu> startxfce4 worked
[07:27] <underdog5004> raylu, sorry, for what?
[07:27] <raylu> superlaggy, though =\
[07:27] <ross_> hey how can i edit my "etc/apt/sources.list" file ??? i tried to kate but kate wont run
[07:27] <underdog5004> oh, that...did it work?
[07:27] <underdog5004> lol, I was just guessing
[07:27] <raylu> yeah. it's just totally unusable
[07:28] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know how to read iTunes's album artwork files, .itc?
[07:28] <Cayson> Hello?
[07:28] <ross_> hey how can i edit my "etc/apt/sources.list" file ??? i tried to kate but kate wont run
[07:28] <arun> ross_: try kdesu kate
[07:28] <Daisuke_Ido> !patience
[07:28] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:28] <Cayson> Lol, I cant even get it to install
[07:28] <Daisuke_Ido> that's getting ridiculous
[07:29] <steveo1> mm_202, well i know its under the root folder in /etc, but im installing flashplayer9 and its asking for the path and when i type that in its says its wrong
[07:29] <Cayson> I feel bad abandoning Fedora, she was my first lol
[07:29] <mortici> is there a fix for the no sound in firefox?
[07:29] <Shaezsche> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30403/ can someone please tell me how to add 16-bit color support to my xorg? I use cedega and i like to play games in 16bit color because i get better performance. However, when not gaming, i like higher bit color.
[07:29] <underdog5004> mortici, I'm sure there is. have you tried google?
[07:30] <Cayson> Wow, sounds like Kubuntu has many problems, no?
[07:30] <mortici> underdog5004: nvm fixed it :P
[07:30] <underdog5004> yup, just like anything else
[07:30] <mneptok> Cayson: what is the install problem?
[07:30] <underdog5004> many are fixable
[07:30] <Cayson> I am going to burn the disk again
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> Cayson: what's the problem?  you came in here complaining "it" wouldn't install, and none of us know wth "it" is
[07:30] <arun> Cayson: what are you talking about?
[07:30] <underdog5004> Cayson, burn at 4x
[07:31] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Cayson: You want problems? You should be here. I'm having to figure out what happened to a friend's windows install, and the bootlogs show failure everywhere...
[07:31] <Cayson> Alright, my problem is, is that it wont lauinch the desktop toinstall it
[07:31] <steveo1> anybody install flash player before
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Cayson: are you using the live cd?
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> steveo1: yeah, it's dead simple
[07:31] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Cayson: Might want to try the alternate install CD.
[07:31] <Cayson> Think so...
[07:31] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !alternate
[07:31] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[07:31] <Cayson> I have tried both
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> steveo1: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:31] <mneptok> Cayson: system memory, CPU, and video card?
[07:32] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Cayson: Ah. And neither will work?
[07:32] <steveo1> Daisuke_Ido, its asking for the installation path of firefox
[07:32] <Cayson> I have got the Desktop to load before, but onylonce. And it froze.
[07:32] <progreSSive> hi everybody!!
[07:33] <Cayson> I am running Compaq Evo N610C, for linux.
[07:33] <arun> Funny thing happened once.. a friend of mine asked me to install Kubuntu on her computer. So I took the official CD that I had ordered (using ShipIt), and I also took another CD with the burned (downloaded) ISO. I tried with the 'official' CD first, and though it ran the Live CD properly, it just refused to launch the installer. It worked with the CD-R though
[07:33] <raylu> hm..."xwin -fullscreen" seems to have unlaggified it
[07:33] <raylu> and made it useable at the same time
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> steveo1: /usr/lib/firefox ?
[07:33] <mneptok> Cayson: i'm not going to look up your computer's specs. system memory, CPU, and video chipset?
[07:33] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> arun: They had problems with the first sets of the pressed CDs. Mine work fine.
[07:33] <mnmmichael> Cayson: Maybe you could try running a lesser version which may install more easily, and then upgrade once you get it installed
[07:34] <Cayson> Oh okay just wait mnep
[07:34] <raylu> sheesh, why didn't anyone tell me about this before?
[07:34] <steveo1> Daisuke_Ido, its in the root folder under the /etc, but when i type it in it says its wron
[07:35] <steveo1> *g
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> uh, yeah
[07:35] <surgy> i know this is the wrong chanel but can someone help me with running two programs simultaniously in one instance of cedega?
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> how about using what i JUST told you?
[07:35] <arun> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Ah okay, this was with Dapper. And it wouldn't detect her internet connection either, at which point things got a bit frustrating, and her parents were going to come home soon, so I had to abort it (her parents don't like boys in their house, especially when they're not around)
[07:36] <Cayson> looking...
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> or if that doesn't work, /etc/firefox/
[07:36] <steveo1> word ok i got it
[07:37] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> arun: I was talking about Feisty. I usually don't get anything in first-run, unless it's a copy of the latest Pokemon game.
[07:38] <Cayson> system memory, CPU, and video chipset? 256 ram, Mobile Pentium 4 (Looking for GHz), chipset?
[07:38] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> arun: And the liveCD problems are a good example as to why I won't.
[07:38] <Cayson> Graphics card?
[07:38] <felixiong> hi
[07:38] <felixiong> hello
[07:38] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hi
[07:38] <mneptok> Cayson: in a terminal, run "cat /proc/cpuinfo && free -m && grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (no quotes) and paste the output in a /msg ?
[07:38] <felixiong> how r u
[07:39] <steveo1> Daisuke_Ido, have you installed divx stage 6 before
[07:39] <felixiong> how can i chat privately
[07:39] <mneptok> WhtWolfTeraDyne: "poring" ;)
[07:39] <underdog5004> WhtWolfTeraDyne, usually I'm right there with you, but I've been running gutsy in a vm since tribe 1...I gotta say, it's shaping up nicely...
[07:39] <Daisuke_Ido> steveo1: nope, never had any reason to.  VLC plays everything i throw at it
[07:39] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> underdog5004: Good to hear. I think I'll still wait until about a month after release.
[07:39] <felixiong> anybody here knows about netbeans?
[07:40] <Shaezsche> is there a command that tells me what color depth i am currently in?
[07:40] <felixiong> anybody here knows about netbeans?
[07:40] <raylu> what do you want to do?
[07:40] <underdog5004> WhtWolfTeraDyne, lol, I installed fiesty about 2 days after it was release...borked my edgy install...
[07:40] <steveo1> Daisuke_Ido, how do it get VLC
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> steveo1: it's in the repos
[07:40] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> mneptok: Meh, It's 12:39 AM right now. I'm allowed ot make mistakes.
[07:40] <felixiong> hey! anybody here knows about netbeans?
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> felixiong: we saw it the first two times, STOP IT.
[07:40] <underdog5004> Shaezsche, just cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | less and search for the resolution that you're at
[07:40] <mneptok> WhtWolfTeraDyne: people are allowed to make mistakes any time. it's what we're good at.
[07:41] <underdog5004> !patience | felixiong
[07:41] <ubotu> felixiong: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:41] <felixiong> ok sir. thanks
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> +++ or if you are helped
[07:41] <underdog5004> Shaezsche, kind of a sketchy way to do it...if you've got an nvidia card I believe you can install the nvdia-control-panel that will tell you.
[07:42] <felixiong> anybody here is a programmer of java?
[07:42] <Shaezsche> underdog5004: i cannot do that
[07:42] <Shaezsche> im testing my xorg
[07:42] <Shaezsche> need to know if i did something right
[07:42] <arun> steveo1: open adept and search for vlc
[07:42] <Cayson> To large of paste, it crashed
[07:42] <mneptok> !pastebin > Cayson
[07:42] <steveo1> i got it
[07:42] <arun> steveo1: enjoy :)
[07:42] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> botlag...
[07:42] <Cayson> !pastebin > processor       : 0
[07:42] <Cayson> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
[07:42] <Cayson> cpu family      : 15
[07:42] <Cayson> model           : 2
[07:42] <Cayson> model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Mobile CPU 1.80GHz
[07:42] <Cayson> stepping        : 4
[07:42] <Cayson> cpu MHz         : 1200.000
[07:42] <Cayson> cache size      : 512 KB
[07:42] <Cayson> fdiv_bug        : no
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> Cayson!
[07:42] <Cayson> hlt_bug         : no
[07:42] <underdog5004> Shaezsche, oh, well, do that cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | less and scroll down to the..."Display" section, I think
[07:42] <Cayson> f00f_bug        : no
[07:42] <Cayson> coma_bug        : no
[07:42] <Cayson> fpu             : yes
[07:42] <Cayson> fpu_exception   : yes
[07:43] <Cayson> cpuid level     : 2
[07:43] <Cayson> wp              : yes
[07:43] <Cayson> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm up
[07:43] <arun> Cayson: do you know what pastebin is?
[07:43] <Cayson> bogomips        : 2394.88
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste | Cayson, for the love of god,
[07:43] <ubotu> Cayson, for the love of god,: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:43] <Cayson>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[07:43] <Shaezsche> NO underdog5004 that doesnt work
[07:43] <underdog5004> Cayson, you're going to get banned...
[07:43] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Nice save.
[07:43] <underdog5004> Shaezsche, oh, ok. have you made changes to you xorg.conf? If not, just go for it. If you screw something up, just sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[07:44] <underdog5004> c'mon everyone, slow clap!
[07:44] <felixiong> no one will answer me?
[07:44] <underdog5004> !noone
[07:44] <underdog5004> !nobody
[07:44] <Cayson> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30406/
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nobody - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <felixiong> I need someone I can talk about netbeans
[07:45] <underdog5004> felixiong, we don't know anything about netbeans. go look on a forum. Google is your friend.
[07:45] <mneptok> !pastebin > Cayson
[07:45] <underdog5004> good night, everyone
[07:45] <Cayson> I did
[07:45] <felixiong> ok thaks
[07:45] <Cayson> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30406/
[07:45] <steveo1> Daisuke_Ido, i got that VLC player and i still cant watch any divx run video of this site i goto
[07:45] <felixiong> thanks a lot....
[07:45] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> felixiong: #netbeans
[07:45] <steveo1> any suggestions
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[07:45] <felixiong> yap netbeans 5.5.1
[07:46] <steveo1> oi?
[07:46] <felixiong> I just wanna ask something I need to know
[07:46] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> felixiong: No, there's a channel called #netbeans that you can join
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> felixiong: then go there, and ask
[07:46] <felixiong> thanks
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> that's because vlc is a standalone video player.  you said you needed the codec to watch videos.  you didn't say they were streaming videos online.
[07:47] <Daisuke_Ido> these things are helpful to know...  unfortunately, i have no clue now :\
[07:47] <steveo1> my bad
[07:47] <Cayson> Was that correct, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30406/?
[07:47] <felixiong> thanks WhtWolfTeraDyne
[07:47] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> felixiong: No problem
[07:48] <phoenixz> What package do I need to install to have remote ssh access to a kubuntu install?
[07:48] <felixiong> no body is answering there <WhtWolfTeraDyne>. no people chatting
[07:48] <Daisuke_Ido> openssh-server
[07:49] <Daisuke_Ido> felixiong: then ask another time, this isn't the place :\
[07:49] <steveo1> Daisuke_Ido, you know any players like VLC that work for streaming videos
[07:49] <Daisuke_Ido> hrm
[07:49] <Daisuke_Ido> mplayer's plugin with ffmpeg, maybe
[07:49] <Cayson> Okay I am going to try my new disk
[07:49] <Daisuke_Ido> but i've never actually attempted that
[07:56] <root___> my kde gone wild
[07:57] <klobster> did it take its window manager off?
[07:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ...
[07:58] <steveo1> i downloaded black and white 2, and my windows emulator won install it. Any suggestions?? (its an exe file)
[07:59] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Well. I'm done with those two. One has a badly damaged motherboard, the other has such a badly hosed WinME install that I wouldn't even trust it with a copy of Slackware on it.
[08:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> steveo1: You using wine?
[08:01] <steveo1> WhtWolfTeraDyne, i have it but it doesnt seem to be working
[08:01] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Wine App Database shows that it won't work worth a flip in Wine. > http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=3574
[08:03] <steveo1> so im pretty much screwed in playing it?
[08:04] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> steveo1: In wine, yes. I don't know about Cedga or any other windows emulator.
[08:04] <Daisuke_Ido> neither of those are emulators :P
[08:04] <steveo1> nope
[08:04] <steveo1> what are they
[08:05] <Daisuke_Ido> compatibility layers
[08:05] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Daisuke_Ido: I like what Jon Watson called them. "Windows Enablers"
[08:05] <steveo1> lol lamens terms
[08:05] <Daisuke_Ido> WhtWolfTeraDyne: i like that
[08:06] <Daisuke_Ido> steveo1: it doesn't count as a "layman's term" if it's "wrong"
[08:06] <raylu> !pidgin
[08:06] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[08:06] <raylu> aw :(
[08:06] <steveo1> i ment that comment for compatibilty layers
[08:07] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not an emulator, it doesn't emulate anything.  it acts as an intermediary between linux/hardware and windows applications by implementing (most of) the windows API including DirectX functionality.
[08:08] <Daisuke_Ido> now dosbox, there's an emulator (and one i love)
[08:09] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> dosbox + Commander Keen = Fun!
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[08:10] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Now, if only they made something that could run "Pathways Into Darkness"...
[08:10] <Daisuke_Ido> what OS?
[08:10] <Daisuke_Ido> can't say i've heard of it
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I remove the undelining for _F_ile, _E_dit and so in the menu bar?
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> For Qt programs, that is...
[08:11] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> OLD mac. Hold on, I'll see if I can find out when it was released.
[08:11] <Daisuke_Ido> there's got to be a 680x0 mac emulator for linux
[08:14] <steveo1> WhtWolfTeraDyne, what other emulators are there that are free
[08:14] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just installed kubuntu clean on a computer, and went to install software with Adept manager.. I added sun java and It showed me a license and I pressed next without accepting the license (dumb dumb).. next thing, adept crashes, and when I restarted it showed me the database was locked so I cant install / modify anything! I already restarted but the problem persists.. any ideas?
[08:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> steveo1: None, as far as I know.
[08:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !aptfix
[08:14] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:15] <steveo1> well tits
[08:15] <phoenixz> I am using kubuntu  7.01
[08:15] <phoenixz> or like.. the latest
[08:15] <MilhousePunkRock> phoenixz: No such Kubuntu... 7.04!
[08:15] <MilhousePunkRock> :)
[08:15] <phoenixz> WhtWolfTeraDyne, sounds like this is common.. :)
 don't use adept when you are install java
[08:15] <phoenixz> 7.04! sorry, forgive my sins!!
[08:16] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> phoenixz: Yes. Very common, actually.
[08:16] <phoenixz> felixiong, why not?
 use the shell instead
[08:16] <felixiong> because the license agreement of java is for console only. will not work in GUI or window
[08:17] <felixiong> adept is a window or GUI right? so don't use that when u r installing java
[08:17] <phoenixz> felixiong, well.. did that on this computer and that turned out just right..
[08:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> felixiong: Well, it will work, but not that well.
[08:17] <phoenixz> felixiong, There is a select box at the bottom you have to check.. I forgot that this time
[08:17] <felixiong> u can find the shell under System menu
[08:17] <MilhousePunkRock> felixiong: Will work in adept, but you have to take to not click next before you checked "agree with the license"
[08:17] <felixiong> the correct name it is KONSOLE
[08:18] <MilhousePunkRock> phoenixz: Or even faster: Hit Alt-F2 and type "konsole"
[08:18] <felixiong> Konsole Terminal Program I mean
[08:18] <MilhousePunkRock> felixiong: Sun is a bit weird with the license display, it should disable the next button until you have agreed...
 u use a comman "apt-get install java" to install java
[08:19] <phoenixz> I know how to get a konsole.. :)
[08:19] <phoenixz> felixiong, will I get sun java?
[08:19] <phoenixz> felixiong, because I do need exactly that one.. if not, eclipse will screw me with phpeclipse..
 u can install that using "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" then you can see some necessary files will install first
 actually you install sun-java6-jdk
[08:23] <felixiong> and sun-java6-jre
[08:32] <yotsuya> I am trying to install 7.04 to a Sony Vaio PCG-R505EL laptop, and I got stuck on CD-ROM detection step.
[08:32] <yotsuya> "No common CD-ROM drive was detected"
[08:39] <kieblerelf> is hardware needed to use the fm players
[08:39] <mike_> kieblerelf: Yes
[08:41] <kieblerelf> anyone ever use the program john the ripper
[08:50] <felixiong_> test
[09:01] <sammy> anyone using tor? possibly tor with their gpg key?
[09:03] <imagine> how can I shutdown X on DISPLAY=:1 ?
[09:06] <kraut> moin
[09:09] <Ryaren> hi
[09:13] <Scotty> I was playing around with screen resolutions and stuff the other day and I restarted last night and I was in a really low resolution. So I went into settings and tried to make it bigger, only to find out that it wouldn't get any higher. So I thought maybe screens were screwed up since I was playing with dual screens the other day, too. Anyway, I tried switching my primary to my secondary and vice-versa so I could make the resolution higher, but now
[09:13] <Scotty> when I try to boot in Kubuntu, I get the loading screen, and then some text comes up but goes away before I can read it, and then it goes back to the loading screen for 30 seconds or so and then a black screen comes up with a blinking underscore.
[09:13] <Scotty> Is there anyway to reset those settings to their defaults?
[09:15] <illriginal> Can someone help me mount my Digital Camera via USB?
[09:15] <sammy> Scotty: you're looking for /etc/X11/xorg.conf, me thinks. as far as resetting, you can at least change the resolution to something you know works and go from there.
[09:15] <Scotty> Sammy: Thanks
[09:16] <mac1> can someone help me put in more servers like undernet channel on Konversation?
[09:16] <MilhousePunkRock> mac1: Hit F2
[09:16] <mac1> i tried that...
[09:16] <mac1> I tried to add the servers and ports...
[09:17] <mac1> but it would not connect
[09:17] <Scotty> Sammy: Could I just type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a recovery console? Would that work?
[09:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Daisuke_Ido: I found a mac 680x0 emulator. Basilisk II! > http://basilisk.cebix.net/
[09:17] <mac1> mac emulator that's cool
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> mac1: Are you sure you entered everthing correctly?
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> mac1: Or that the server you are trying to add is up at all?
[09:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !info basilisk2
[09:18] <ubotu> basilisk2: 68k Macintosh emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.9.20060529-1 (feisty), package size 300 kB, installed size 840 kB
[09:18] <illriginal> Can someone help me mount my Digital Camera via USB?
[09:18] <mac1> Undernet Channel? yes
[09:19] <mac1> I went to www.undernet.org to look at their servers
[09:20] <mac1> hmmm..have you been able to use your digital camera at all Illriginal?
[09:20] <sammy> Scotty: I betthat would work actually.
[09:21] <Ryaren> sby can help me in Wine?
[09:21] <sammy> Scotty: that question was answered by the gentoo part of my brain, not the kubuntu/debian one, sorry :P
[09:23] <Ryaren> I've just installed the WoW and in 1280x1024 the texts are flickering (like chatlog,combatlog etc..) It seems like somekind of refresh rate problem but if I change this rate nothing happens! I'm using the latest wine (0.9.41) and Geforce 4 ti4200 + I-max LCD monitor
[09:24] <illriginal> mac1 for some reason amarok keeps letting me see my pictures, but then I closed amarok..and now I can't view my pictures
[09:24] <illriginal> mac1 even after amarok is opened, i go to "My Computer" and double click it.. .and it gives me an error message
[09:26] <Riyoxke> !pkg
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <Riyoxke> !pkg-config
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <mac1> sorry can't help you
[09:26] <mac1> i'm working on that next project for my own digital camera
[09:26] <mac1> right now, I'm trying to figure out how to download java
[09:27] <MilhousePunkRock> mac1: To me it seems that this undernet service is down, the website loads really slow and it does not list any server
[09:27] <ADiCT3D> Can someone help me fix my sound? It seems all high pitched now since i was messin with Audacity
[09:27] <MilhousePunkRock> s
[09:27] <scotty> Excellent. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg worked perfectly.
[09:27] <scotty> Thanks for the suggestion, anyway, Sammy :D
[09:28] <mac1> it does load slow
[09:28] <sammy> scotty: good call with dpkg-config. I need to remember there's a computer to fix things for me automagically :P
[09:29] <mac1> the site has a tab for servers you didn't see it?
[09:29] <MilhousePunkRock> mac1: I see it, but the list it brings up is empty
[09:29] <mac1> what do you mean by empty? I see the server list and port listings etc.
[09:30] <mac1> MillhousePunkRock: it is a slow site.if I didn't have friends logging on there I would not bother trying to figure this out
[09:31] <morten_> hey all
[09:33] <ADiCT3D> how do i record sterero mixer audio from Audacity?
[09:34] <ADiCT3D> how do i record sterero mixer audio from Audacity?
[09:35] <morten_> i hav ea problem whwn istalling porgs
[09:36] <jombee> what's the problem?
[09:50] <nivea> hallo, ich hab da mal ne frage: wie kann ich licq installieren auf kubuntu? (es sei hinzugefuegt, dass ich erst kuerzlich von windows auf linux umgestiegen bin und mich daher ueber nuetzliche tipps sehr freuen wuerde)
[09:51] <Riyoxke> !de
[09:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:52] <nivea> hello, i've got a question: how can i install licq on kubuntu? (i'm an absolute beginner because i switched over from windows few days ago, some tips might be useful) thanks
[09:55] <thetigergo> hi nivea
[09:55] <pag> nivea, sudo apt-get install licq
[09:55] <pag> !info licq
[09:55] <ubotu> licq: ICQ client (base files). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.4-2 (feisty), package size 627 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[09:57] <thetigergo> #netbeans
[10:04] <Riyoxke> *** Compile and install it, and make sure pkg-config finds it,
[10:04] <Riyoxke> *** by adding the path where the .pc file is located to PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[10:04] <Riyoxke> i dont get it
[10:04] <Riyoxke> :-/
[10:05] <pag> Riyoxke, wth are you trying to do? :P
[10:06] <nivea> pag, my shell says he can't find the licq package, and if i'm honest, i don't know how to use a shell, so if you could tell me how i am able to navigate to the folder where i downloaded and unpacked it, that would be great.
[10:06] <pag> !repos | nivea
[10:06] <ubotu> nivea: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:06] <Riyoxke> trying to install irssi, first i installed gcc, pkg and now i'm trying to install glib
[10:06] <Riyoxke> :p
[10:06] <pag> nivea, see that link, and then install licq through Adept manager
[10:07] <pag> Riyoxke, you're compiling glib? why? it's in repos, no need to compile
[10:08] <pag> Riyoxke, you can install everything you need to build the newest version of irssi by typing  sudo apt-get build-dep irssi
[10:08] <Riyoxke> well, tbh, i dont know what i'm trying :p irssi needs glib, so i downloaded glib.. did ./configure etc etc
[10:08] <Riyoxke> i'm just new to linux (2 days)
[10:08] <Riyoxke> :p
[10:09] <Riyoxke> pag: can't find the package irssi
[10:09] <thetigergo> don't let nivea confuse
[10:09] <Riyoxke> need to do ./configure first
[10:09] <pag> Riyoxke, you have all the repos enabled?
[10:10] <thetigergo> why don't teach her goto shell and type this one
[10:10] <thetigergo> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <thetigergo> it is easy ?
[10:11] <nivea> i'm ok, i just use the link ubotu send, think its gonna work
[10:11] <pag> thetigergo, since it's easier just to click your way through adepts menus, than to edit a file in text-based editor?
[10:12] <pag> nivea, it should. and if if doesn't you can always ask for further instructions :)
[10:12] <thetigergo> no, that's alittle complicated
[10:12] <Riddell> ** testers needed for the tribe 3 candidates alternate CDs
[10:13] <thetigergo> u know? when u got to sources list? u just remove the # sign inline with the deb and http? and save it
[10:13] <thetigergo> after that just type sudo apt-get update and the whole thing will updated
[10:13] <thetigergo> after that just type again sudo apt-get install licq
[10:14] <thetigergo> then after the installation done.
[10:14] <pag> thetigergo, I know. I personally prefer vim over nano... but somehow I feel, that editing things graphically might be easier for beginner
[10:14] <thetigergo> still u can use shell and type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:15] <thetigergo> that is GUI editor?
[10:15] <pag> thetigergo, kdesu kate  that's kubuntu channel ;)
[10:15] <thetigergo> kate rather
[10:16] <thetigergo> so that's so easy?
[10:17] <pag> thetigergo, sorry... I already lost a track of this conversation :-/ Editing sources.list is rather easy - yes. Clicking in adept is easy too.. I don't see a point for having this argument
[10:22] <berkes> what tool or app is used to create the fstab on install of kubuntu?
[10:22] <ADiCT3D> berkes: its a text file
[10:22] <berkes> my disks (uuids) are fsked during the latest upgrade. And I want to regenerate the etc/fstab ffile
[10:23] <thetigergo> sorry pag, I just trying to let nivea not to confuse
[10:23] <berkes> thing is, that doing it manually breaks in several places. And breaks the ablity of future upgrades too. Once its broken your fsked.
[10:23] <Ogredude> ah crap
[10:23] <Ogredude> computer I was going to install kubuntu on doesn't have a DVD reader and all I've got is a 7.04 DVD
[10:24] <Ogredude> can I use the DVD to make CD images on another machine or do I have to go download CD images?
[10:24] <ADiCT3D> Ogredude: go download  a CD image
[10:24] <Ogredude> ok
[10:24] <berkes> Ogredude: downloading is the easiest.
[10:24] <Ogredude> ugh.
[10:24] <Ogredude> also the slowest probably
[10:25] <berkes> alternative you could mount the iso over loopback and create cd isos from that. But that requires skills :)
[10:25] <ADiCT3D> Ogredude: Nope ordering a shipit CD is
[10:25] <Ogredude> lol
[10:25] <Ogredude> I guess so
[10:25] <ADiCT3D> berkes: no dvd reader
[10:25] <Ogredude> ADiCT3D: well the machine I'm on right now has a DVD reader
[10:25] <berkes> ADiCT3D: you don't have the iso then?
[10:25] <Ogredude> it's the target machine that doesn't
[10:25] <ADiCT3D> oh
[10:25] <ADiCT3D> pull it out of current
[10:25] <ADiCT3D> put in other
[10:26] <berkes> ADiCT3D: but yea, I know fsab is a file. Problem is that kubuntus stupid UUID system breaks everytime on upgrades-
[10:26] <berkes> ~fstab
[10:27] <Ogredude> hmmm
[10:28] <berkes> yea: hmmm. :)
[10:28] <Ogredude> oh grand, this machine only has 128MB anyway
[10:30] <berkes> Ogredude: optionally try xubuntu.
[10:30] <Ogredude> well all I really need it to do is fire up a Rails app and a Firefox pointing at the Rails app
[10:30] <Ogredude> it's not going to be doing much else
[10:31] <berkes> or else go for puppylinux or damnsmallinux
[10:33] <Ogredude> hmmm ok
[10:33] <Ogredude> I'll have to look at those
[10:34] <berkes> I have good experience with DSL on an ancient laptop: 48M Ram :D
[10:34] <berkes> it even did a translucent console!
[10:35] <Ogredude> hehe
[10:35] <Ogredude> hrmm, I may have a 256MB SDRAM laying around somewhere
[10:35] <berkes> Ogredude: also: go for swiftfox instead of firefox. Saves some mem and cpu.
[10:37] <Ogredude> okie
[10:42] <NeoChapay> hi 2 all i create deb package of Kde4-svn071407 ho can me say how i can add him for devel repos !?
[10:43] <pag> NeoChapay, #ubuntu-motu
[10:44] <Pensa`MIA> smplayer won't work with kubuntu's patched Qt 4.3.0
[10:45] <skar> hey whats up all
[10:45] <skar> inew with linux
[10:45] <skar> i need help
[10:48] <zenum> hi, does anyone here have an nvidia 8500 or 8600?
[10:49] <zenum> i'm just wondering if i would be able to get full 3d support for it in ubuntu?
[10:49] <Ogredude> good lord
[10:49] <Ogredude> damnsmall *is* damn small
[10:49] <Mikelevel> Pensa`MIA~ why smplayer ? if you use kde its better kmplayer
[10:50] <Pensa`MIA> smplayer is the best frontend I found for mplayer I have come across
[10:50] <Pensa`MIA> imho
[10:50] <Mikelevel> could be... but.. its gtk
[10:50] <Pensa`MIA> nope
[10:50] <Pensa`MIA> qt
[10:51] <Pensa`MIA> http://smplayer.sourceforge.net
[10:51] <Mikelevel> sorry i was thinking in another one
[10:52] <Pensa`MIA> :)
[10:53] <Mikelevel> 	Source code: smplayer-0.5.29-qt4-0718.tar.gz (~ 1.3 MB)
[10:53] <Mikelevel> Note: currently SMPlayer is being ported to Qt 4. These versions could be really unstable. You're warned.
[10:53] <Pensa`MIA> I've talked to the developer and it seems to be a problem with the changes kubuntu makes to qt
[11:02] <haiz> hi i'm installing etch now on a machine but it hang at configuring apt scanning the mirror..
[11:02] <haiz> anyway to abort it?
[11:03] <pollyo> Hello
[11:04] <rion> buenas
[11:04] <rion> una pregunta
[11:04] <pag> !es | rion
[11:04] <ubotu> rion: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:04] <pollyo> I'm attempting to help a friend.  I installed ubuntu on his computer and now he would like windows on it as well.  I was wanting to keep the ubuntu on the system and add windows to it.
[11:04] <pollyo> Would anyone be able to share some knowledge on this situation?
[11:05] <pollyo> Or perhaps a website that would discuss the proccess.
[11:05] <pag> pollyo, in short: Install Windows on a deperate partition and recover grub ;)
[11:05] <pag> seperate even
[11:05] <pollyo> pag: Thank you.  To recover grub would I make use of the ubuntu boot disk?
[11:06] <pag> pollyo, yup. just mount your ubuntu-installation, chroot to it and command sudo grub-install (or something like that, cant remember the exact comman atm)
[11:07] <pollyo> pag: I am not familiar with chroot.  Would you be able to share how to make use of that command?
[11:07] <pag> pollyo, sure. sudo chroot /mount/point
[11:08] <pollyo> pag: Would mount/point be the partition? (by default with ubuntu)?
[11:08] <pag> pollyo, mountpoint would be the folder you've mounted your Ubuntu-installations / prtition one command earlier
[11:10] <pollyo> pag: Does ubuntu have a command to tell you what the mount point be?   Or is "chroot /mount/point" the actuall command?
[11:11] <pollyo> pag: or would chroot /dev/sda1 or something like that?
[11:11] <pag> pollyo, I'll give you an example: sudo mkdir /myubuntu && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /myubuntu && sudo chroot /myubuntu
[11:11] <pag> pollyo, of course /dev/sdXY must be correct
[11:12] <pollyo> pag: Thank you for the time to help me on this.
[11:12] <pag> np :)
[11:12] <pollyo> pag: After that I run what command to renue the boot system?
[11:12] <pollyo> pag: Will it automatically find both windows and ubuntu or do I have to edit anything?
[11:13] <pag> pollyo, wait a sec, I'll try to figure the latter steps :)
[11:14] <pag> pollyo,  grub-install --root-directory=/myubuntu /dev/sda
[11:14] <pag> !grub
[11:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:15] <pollyo> pag: Great link.  From the description it appears to discuss what I am doing.  I hope it covers dual booting.
[11:15] <pag> pollyo, official guide seems to use different approach. It should work too
[11:16] <pollyo> pag: I'll review the official guide as well and thank you once again for your time and effort.
[11:17] <pag> np
[11:18] <TiMiDo> !es
[11:18] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:25] <arhangel> help
[11:25] <pag> with?
[11:26] <arhangel> whit everithing
[11:26] <arhangel> i dowt know how to log on root
[11:26] <pag> !root'
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about root' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <arhangel> :| I INSTALL KUBUNTU
[11:26] <pag> !root
[11:26] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:26] <arhangel> !flex
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <pag> arhangel, in other words; use sudo and *don't* try to login as root
[11:28] <arhangel> aaa
[11:28] <arhangel> i understant
[11:28] <arhangel> if i wana install something whit root acces i use sudo ?
[11:28] <arhangel> sudo make blABLA
[11:28] <arhangel> :P
[11:28] <pag> arhangel, yup. ie. sudo apt-get install
[11:28] <arhangel> yes yes
[11:28] <arhangel> :D
[11:28] <arhangel> wait
[11:28] <arhangel> :D
[11:29] <arhangel> checking for X... no
[11:29] <arhangel> checking for flex... no
[11:29] <arhangel> configure: error: no suitable flex found. Please install the 'flex' package.
[11:29] <pag> !info flex
[11:29] <ubotu> flex: A fast lexical analyzer generator.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.33-10build1 (feisty), package size 226 kB, installed size 960 kB
[11:30] <pag> arhangel, for configuring (by the way, what are you trying to install?) you'll probably need flex-dev
[11:30] <arhangel> i try to install wine
[11:31] <arhangel> :(
[11:31] <pag> !repos | arhangel
[11:31] <ubotu> arhangel: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:31] <pag> !info wine | arhangel
[11:31] <ubotu> arhangel: wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[11:32] <arhangel> i know what`s wine
[11:32] <arhangel> :| but i dowt know how to install flex package
[11:33] <pag> arhangel, enable universe-repo (as told in first link) and then install via Adept / apt-get
[11:37] <arhangel> !aol
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <arhangel> another eror
[11:40] <arhangel> tests
[11:40] <arhangel> hecking for bison... no
[11:40] <arhangel> configure: error: no suitable bison found. Please install the 'bison' package.
[11:40] <arhangel> !info bison
[11:40] <ubotu> bison: A parser generator that is compatible with YACC. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.3.dfsg-4build1 (feisty), package size 338 kB, installed size 1360 kB
[11:47] <arhangel> i`m idiot
[11:48] <arhangel> anyone knows how to install aol
[11:48] <arhangel> ?
[11:53] <arhangel> anyone online ?
[11:56] <arhangel> !wine
[11:56] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:57] <Ogredude> ok I know I'm going to regret this...  But do I want lilo or grub?  (installing DSL at the moment)
[11:57] <pag> Ogredude, grub probably
[11:58] <Ogredude> ok
[11:58] <Ogredude> I don't know a damn thing about either of them
[11:58] <pag> Ogredude, grub is newer, and easier iirc  lilo is mostly for old-school users
[11:58] <Ogredude> okie
[12:00] <Teknobaba> how can i download kubuntu ?
[12:00] <emonkey> !download
[12:00] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[12:00] <Teknobaba> thanks
[12:01] <vistakiller> geia sas
[12:01] <pag> !gr | vistakiller
[12:01] <ubotu> vistakiller: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[12:02] <peer> when I will start Kubuntu comes many errors: ata2.01: revalidation failed (errno= -5)  ata2: port failed to respond (30sec, States 0xd0)
[12:02] <Teknobaba> can  use kubuntu in turksh language
[12:03] <peer> What can I do?
[12:03] <pag> !tr | Teknobaba
[12:03] <ubotu> Teknobaba: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[12:03] <Teknobaba> ubotu: teekkrler
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teekkrler - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <pag> Teknobaba, ubotu's a bot :)
[12:04] <Teknobaba> pag: hehe OK :D
[12:04] <Ogredude> urgh, HD errors
[12:04] <Ogredude> *sigh*
[12:05] <wers> for my gnome apps, can I use GNOME's Window decoration under KDE?
[12:05] <peer> but kubuntu will start 3 minutes later
[12:05] <pag> wers, either or. you can't run two WMs at the same time
[12:06] <pag> wers, so it's either Metacity (gnome) or Kwin (KDE)
[12:06] <wers> I guess, I really cant
[12:06] <wers> okay.. thanks
[12:07] <arhangel> pag can you help me plz
[12:07] <arhangel> step by step :(
[12:08] <pag> arhangel, with?
[12:08] <arhangel> to instal aol
[12:09] <pag> arhangel, isn't aol an ISP?
[12:09] <arhangel> what is a IPS
[12:09] <arhangel> ?
[12:09] <arhangel> tu hide my ip
[12:09] <pag> Internet Service Provider
[12:09] <arhangel> no no
[12:09] <arhangel> aol mesenger like in windows
[12:09] <runlevelten> They have that massive trojan^w client software that stops and starts services, messes with packet filtering etc.
[12:10] <runlevelten> ah, aim
[12:10] <runlevelten> kopete ftw :)
[12:10] <arhangel> no no
[12:10] <arhangel> no aim
[12:10] <arhangel> aol make`s a now internet conexion and creeate a new ip
[12:10] <runlevelten> so not aol messenger then?
[12:11] <arhangel> make a new pppoe
[12:11] <arhangel> wait
[12:12] <runlevelten> eeks, last time I touched AOL connectivity for home Linux it was a horrific mess. I hope it's improved now
[12:13] <arhangel> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html
[12:13] <arhangel> look
[12:13] <runlevelten> sudo apt-cache search aol | grep connect .... penggy - connects to AOL via modem or TCP/IP
[12:13] <arhangel> but it doesont work the recomplie
[12:13] <arhangel> command
[12:14] <Teknobaba> pag: can  use kubuntu in turksh language ?
[12:14] <pag> Teknobaba, you can... You'll have to install Turkish language packs
[12:15] <Teknobaba> pag: okay
[12:15] <Teknobaba> thanks
[12:16] <pag> Teknobaba, sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-tr language-pack-kde-tr
[12:28] <runlevelten> wow, this amarok - ums player thing isn't working smoothly. welcome to 1993
[12:28] <runlevelten> it's so snazzy and seamless normally, too :(
[12:49] <prezence> hello people
[12:49] <prezence> can sum1 help me get kdeaccessibility going on kubuntu 6
[12:49] <prezence> not available via the adept manager
[12:50] <prezence> and when i manually get the .deb it has a rather big list of dependancies
[12:50] <prezence> is there a specific repository i could add?
[12:51] <Lynoure> kubuntu 6? you mean Dapper 6.04 or Edgy 6.10?
[12:51] <prezence> should be dapper
[12:51] <prezence> 6.06
[12:51] <prezence> please
[12:52] <Lynoure> I would if I could, but I cannot remember that... long time since my dapper days
[12:53] <prezence> any1 else?
[12:56] <prezence> have i got it right though?
[12:56] <prezence> kdeaccessibilty
[01:01] <dreamer> hmm, i'm unable to start firefox: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:09] <dreamer> is this still the major bug discussed here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/60236
[01:09] <perrito> hello everybody
[01:09] <perrito> I don
[01:10] <dreamer> I not don
[01:10] <perrito> I dont speak english very well and I need help with kubuntu
[01:10] <dreamer> ok, hi don :)
[01:10] <dreamer> what is your problem?
[01:10] <dreamer> and what is your native language?
[01:10] <perrito> my internet connection is goes too slow with kubuntu
[01:11] <perrito> spanish
[01:12] <perrito> the problem is the download speed
[01:12] <dreamer> !spanish
[01:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:12] <perrito> thanks ubotu
[01:13] <dreamer> :)
[01:13] <perrito> il try it
[01:13] <dreamer> good luck!
[01:13] <perrito> thanks dreamer
[01:18] <jiyong> 
[01:21] <dreamer> http://www.scaryideas.com/pictures/2960.jpg
[01:22] <perrito> please I need your help, I will try to write in English
[01:22] <arun> Is it just me, or does anyone else experience a weird caching problem using Firefox/Linux? Sites that work fine on Firefox/Windows sometimes need to be refreshed 6-7 times before they work properly and display the most recent information, especially AJAX-based sites. Come to think of it, it happens with other browsers on Linux as well.. Opera, Konqueror. Do I need to tweak anything w.r.t network settings?
[01:23] <bldzr> Hum, never experienced that
[01:24] <perrito> arun I think you may have to delete the temporary files after get the new content
[01:25] <perrito> I experience that but only in some type of files embedded
[01:25] <perrito> like sounds, video etc
[01:27] <arun> perrito: no, that's not it. tried everything, it's weird.
[01:27] <perrito> mm i have no idea
[01:28] <_4strO> arun: have you a concrete exemple ?
[01:28] <_4strO> arun: than we can test
[01:28] <arun> For example, have you heard of a file storing service called Dropboks?
[01:28] <_4strO> nop
[01:28] <perrito> my firefox works fine with ajax i don have that problem
[01:29] <arun> Ok, so that site uses AJAX to upload and display data. It uploads files alright, but it doesn't display the list of files when you log in, like it's supposed to. It works fine on Firefox/Windows, though
[01:31] <arun> The problem doesn't occur with all AJAX-based sites, only some
[01:32] <arun> But there's no problem on Firefox/Windows, even when I'm using Windows/VMWare (which is basically using the same connection as kubuntu)
[01:33] <_4strO> arun: so you have something special in your FF on linux conf
[01:33] <tmske> is there a rss-feed whith new or updated packages of kubuntu gutsy?
[01:34] <_4strO> !gutsy
[01:34] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[01:34] <arun> _4strO: any idea what that might be?
[01:35] <_4strO> arun: nop
[01:35] <_4strO> sorry
[01:39] <jarohp> hello there. I experienced very strange situation. My battery was depleted when I forgot my notebook running. Now I plugged mains started notebook but battery doesn't seem to recharge at all. Do anyone know what could be the problem and how to solve this? I really don't know what might be wrong with it.
[01:40] <_4strO> try the plug with another equipment
[01:40] <_4strO> ^^
[01:46] <BluesKaj> Morning all :)
[01:46] <_4strO> yop
[02:01] <Vrenn> hello, I'm running kubuntu 7.04 an had the problem that knetworkmanager wanst able all the time to connect to my router (wpa, madwifi), then i deactivated it and used /etc/network/networks, which also breaks down from time to time (ifdown && ifup helps but is no solution)
[02:02] <Vrenn> anybody has a idea to get rid of the always annoining ifup/ifdown?
[02:03] <BluesKaj> !wireless | Vrenn
[02:03] <ubotu> Vrenn: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:05] <Ryaren> sby can help me in shell scripting?
[02:07] <BluesKaj> Ryaren, how?
[02:08] <Vrenn> wireless works, but not all the time, thats the point, the troubleshootingguide ends when the connection is establiched, and i have all channels from 1-13 through
[02:08] <Ryaren> I want to make a script but I don't know how can I take a command as root
[02:09] <Ryaren> Blueskaj: I want to copy to /etc folder a file
[02:12] <BluesKaj> you can do it as root in konqueror, kdesu konqueror /etc/..filename ,cut &paste or copy & paste you file into it IIRC
[02:13] <Darkrift> are there tools to move a partition on any linux live cds?
[02:13] <Darkrift> i wanna delete my vista partition, make a new partition, copy my linux one onto it, then make a new one with whats left at the end
[02:13] <Darkrift> cause the linux partitions are in the middle of the drive
[02:14] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu Live cds have partitioning capabilities , but i's recommended to prepartition you drive(s) first ... makes for an easier and quicker install
[02:14] <Darkrift> well
[02:14] <Darkrift> thats not possible
[02:14] <Darkrift> i got a fully running install already
[02:15] <Darkrift> just want to give it more drive space and remove vistas partition
[02:15] <BluesKaj> Darkrift, then DL and burn GParted Live CD partiton editor,  it's bootable and works very well
[02:16] <Darkrift> do you know if it can copy partitions though?
[02:16] <Darkrift> or do i need to use something like partition magic
[02:16] <BluesKaj> it can move them
[02:16] <Darkrift> nice
[02:17] <BluesKaj> partition magic sucks and is unstable ...use GPareted
[02:17] <Darkrift> cool
[02:17] <BluesKaj> Gparted
[02:17] <Darkrift> i might do a full drive backup first just incase
[02:18] <Darkrift> i have a 300g in my closet, jsut need the power cord for my external bay
[02:18] <runlevelten> or cfdisk and some forethought :)
[02:18] <BluesKaj> I've used it several times and it's never lrt me down ...but it does take a while
[02:18] <Darkrift> the lappy drive is only 80g, so id be safe with either method
[02:22] <BluesKaj> Darkrift, well plan to be withou the pc for several hrs then , but redundancy is the safe way alright
[02:22] <Darkrift> yup
[02:25] <BluesKaj> mornin', genii
[02:25] <genii> BluesKaj: Mornin' :)
[02:26] <runlevelten> coffee. Good call.
[02:26] <genii> I feel like that Warner Bros cartoon with the sheepdog and coyote at the timesheet
[02:27] <genii> Hi Geroge, hi Fred, etc LOL
[02:27] <grul> !gtk
[02:27] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[02:27] <grul> rly...
[02:29] <BluesKaj> bones are achy this mornin ...t-storms and rain ...gonna be housebound again
[02:30] <runlevelten> I get migraine from thunderstorms :(
[02:30] <runlevelten> or from impending thunderstorms.
[02:36] <BluesKaj> migraines...bummer :(
[02:39] <arun> Firefox just won't open certain pages for me. As in I know they've "loaded", I can see the header on the title bar, but the page is entirely blank. The same pages show up properly in Firefox/Windows, or even in Konqueror. Any ideas as to how I can fix this?
[02:40] <BluesKaj> which sites arun , ones that use a lot of media like youtube or... ?
[02:41] <arun> No, not necessarily. At first I thought it was only with AJAX-based sites, but it seems to happen with a lot of sites.
[02:41] <arun> The problem started recently, about a week or so ago, but I haven't installed any extensions or anything.
[02:41] <ace_> Hi all i'm back
[02:42] <ace_> with a new computer, just can't remember how i install anything :(
[02:42] <ace_> !nvidia
[02:42] <ace_> ???
[02:42] <BluesKaj> hmmm, hate to admit but I think FF kind of sucks on Linux ...been converted to konqueror myself
[02:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:42] <ace_> Anyone here know if 64bit linux gives a big speed boost or not?
[02:43] <arun> BluesKaj: I need to test sites on Firefox, so I need to get it to work properly. Any suggestions?
[02:43] <arun> maybe if i flush my dns cache?
[02:43] <ace_> arun: run windows on a dual boot setup? run windows in VirtualBox?
[02:44] <arun> Yeah, I'm running Windows in VMware, but I'd like to be able to use Firefox natively as well
[02:44] <BluesKaj> not with your symptoms , arun ...sorry ...maybe oner of the heavy hitters can help... runlevelten ?
[02:44] <ace_> Is the ut2004 demo in the repos?
[02:44] <ace_> !easysource
[02:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:45] <arun> BluesKaj: can you open this website in firefox? http://www.sabade.org/beta/
[02:45] <BluesKaj> sorry arun , I dumped FF :(
[02:45] <genii> arun Testing now
[02:45] <arun> genii: thanks
[02:46] <arun> it's just a simple blog, won't open
[02:46] <arun> opens in konqueror and ff/win
[02:46] <genii> Loads fine in my FF
[02:46] <genii> Hello world, south Asian Bar Assn etc etc
[02:46] <arun> genii: then I guess something's wrong with it on my computer
[02:46] <arun> Will doing a fresh install help?
[02:46] <BluesKaj> works in opera & konq
[02:47] <arun> Yeah, works in Opera and Konqueror for me as well
[02:47] <arun> Just not in Firefo
[02:47] <arun> x
[02:47] <arun> Ok I got it working now
[02:48] <arun> I was using a Firefox theme. After I disabled the theme, pages load fine now
[02:48] <genii> arun You could do an apt-get --purge remove <name> then reinstall. this will clear out any conf files etc
[02:48] <arun> I didn't know themes can affect Firefox so much
[02:48] <genii> arun Ah, good. At least you know what it is now causing it
[02:49] <ace_> !64bit
[02:49] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[02:49] <arun> Yeah, seems to be fixed now. Aren't themes just supposed to alter the look of Firefox?
[02:49] <genii> arun Maybe email the theme author, possibly they will incorporate a fix in next version of it
[02:50] <arun> Alright, thanks you guys
[02:51] <arun> thanks BluesKaj
[02:52] <genii> BluesKaj: Gotta like it when the big light bulb over someone's head lights up :)
[02:52] <BluesKaj> well, dunno if I helped but the theme prob is good to know , arun
[02:52] <BluesKaj> yeah  genii , no kidding eh :)
[02:53] <stephen_> BluesKaj: how did you get your ATI sondcard working?
[02:54] <BluesKaj> setting up alsa & kmix , stephen_ ...gotta fool with alsamixer in the terminal
[02:54] <stephen_> but my sound card doesnt even work BluesKaj?
[02:55] <stephen_> and how would i fool with alsamixer in terminal?
[02:56] <BluesKaj> and of course , choosing alsa in , system settings/sound system/hardware/select the audio device/ advanced linux audio architecture
[02:56] <arun> Do you guys have any recommended FTP clients? I haven't been able to find a single good one (except Konqueror)
[02:57] <arun> I'm currently using the FireFTP extension (firefox), but I'd rather use a proper application
[02:57] <stephen_> BluesKaj: :) my alsa drivers seem to be working now, before it would say restaring alsa settings but would go on forever
[02:58] <stephen_> butbut still no sound
[02:58] <BluesKaj> stephen_, try this site : http://alsa.opensrc.org/Main_Page
[03:02] <supervisor> Finns detngon hr
[03:03] <BluesKaj> stephen use this site to create the asoundrc file required to get you rsoundcard working: http://www.pcauthority.com.au/print.aspx?CIID=21424&SIID=10
[03:04] <supervisor> Hall!!!
[03:04] <BluesKaj> supervisor, inte har , pa #kubuntu-se och #kubuntu-fi
[03:05] <benpicco> I want to get my printer (Epson DS68) working - jet test is, well, working (looks strage) but when I want to print something, State imediatly goes to 'Error'
[03:05] <benpicco> (i use the drivers from gutenprint)
[03:05] <BluesKaj> supervisor, engelska har
[03:07] <arun> If I am online via ethernet at home, and then take my laptop to a client's office with wifi, will I be able to switch connections easily?
[03:10] <eagles0513875> sup BluesKaj
[03:11] <BluesKaj> hey eagles0513875
[03:11] <eagles0513875> arun: what kinda wifi card u got
[03:12] <arun> eagles0513875: I'm thinking of getting a Dell laptop
[03:13] <eagles0513875> make sure its not a broadcom wifi card
[03:13] <Sini|work> arun: Abaout your Firefox problem. I had that issue once here at my PC at work. The only thing that helped me was deleting my Firefox profile. The reason for this was opening a earlier version of FF (1.5) on the same PC using the same profile the recent version (2.0.x) was using.
[03:13] <eagles0513875> they r head aches to setup
[03:13] <benpicco> any recommendations for my printing problem?
[03:14] <arun> Sini|work: Turns out the problem was because of a Firefox theme I'd installed. As soon as I switched to the regular theme it works well. That's weird, but it works now, so what the heck :)
[03:14] <kalorin_> benpicco: go paperless? :)
[03:14] <arun> Sini|work: thanks, though
[03:16] <Sini|work> arun: hehe okies, I never found out exactly but my guess at that time was also that it might be one of the installed themes/extensions causing that problem.
[03:17] <arun> Sini|work: I thought it might be one of the extensions, but turned out to be the theme. I didn't know themes could affect Firefox like that, but as I said, it works now.
[03:18] <darksheep> moin
[03:19] <jm87> how can interface my ipod with amarok?
[03:19] <darksheep> ich habe ein problem: ich kann unter kubuntu zwar drahtlosnetzwerke finden, diese aber nicht verbinden
[03:19] <BluesKaj> !de | darksheep
[03:19] <ubotu> darksheep: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:20] <genii> You can enter ubuntu once but not afterwards?
[03:20] <arun> Anyone using Virtualbox here?
[03:21] <kalorin_> arun, sorry vmware for me
[03:21] <BluesKaj> ran VB for a while but found it lacking , just like all the other virtuals
[03:21] <jussi_> arun: i have before... whats the issue?
[03:21] <arun> jm87: try this guide http://element14.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/how-to-use-amarok-to-manage-your-ipod-in-linux/
[03:22] <arun> jussi_: i'm using vmware as well, but a lot of people are telling me to ditch vmware for virtualbox, because it is apparently much faster and stable
[03:22] <arun> is that true?
[03:22] <BluesKaj> even vmware server didn't do much for me
[03:22] <jussi_> arun: thats what i found, but I would say try it for yourself
[03:22] <runlevelten> arun: VMware supports USB better and stuff.
[03:23] <arun> vmware server works pretty well for me, and i've set up a samba shared directory that works quite well
[03:24] <jussi_> arun: as I said, give it a go, and see for your self.
[03:24] <runlevelten> I'd always advise trying to go with the Free option, but definitely make sure you check what virtualbox does and doesn't support before you do.
[03:24] <BluesKaj> didn't need vmware to set up samba
[03:26] <arun> I had found a good vmware tutorial online that guided me to set up a samba share and access it from windows
[03:26] <arun> Lot of commands in the terminal
[03:26] <eagles0513875> who wants to use vmware
[03:28] <BluesKaj> if ya want wondows , install it on a separate partition , you can always access it with ntfs-3 and ntfs-config , if need be and when ya wanna run windows apps you have the real thing installed ...that's my rant and opinion for today :)
[03:30] <rjb> hey, since upgrading to feisty i can't get any more that 2-3 hours uptime on my laptop
[03:31] <eagles0513875> rjb: did u do a clean install or a dist-upgrade
[03:31] <rjb> i get overheating issues.. any time i run a long cpu-bound task the temperature soars to 95 C
[03:32] <eagles0513875> do u have enough space between the laptop and the surface its on
[03:32] <rjb> at which point the bios seems to shut down the machine
[03:32] <eagles0513875> if u dont u might wnat to consider getting a cooling bad
[03:32] <eagles0513875> *pad
[03:32] <rjb> sure it's on a regular wooden desk
[03:32] <rjb> true that we're having a nice summer here.. about 30 C or so
[03:33] <rjb> but this didn't happen under edgy, i believe
[03:33] <rjb> to perform a backup i must switch to powersave mode ie. halve the cpu freq
[03:34] <rjb> otherwise i get the overheating
[03:34] <eagles0513875> is there a space though between ur fans and the surface
[03:35] <BluesKaj> rjb, you still need to make sure you have an good airspace between your laptop and your desk
[03:35] <eagles0513875> ya
[03:35] <eagles0513875> rjb: if u dont go out and buy one i have one and they do wonders
[03:36] <rjb> eagles0513875: you mean the cooling pad?
[03:36] <rjb> what's it look like
[03:36] <rjb> ?
[03:36] <eagles0513875> the cooling pad does
[03:36] <eagles0513875> just a plastic pad with 2 fans that suxs the hot air away from ur laptop
[03:36] <eagles0513875> for my machine my lcd screen generates the most heat
[03:37] <rjb> aah so it has its own fans
[03:37] <rjb> in my case it's clearly the cpu
[03:37] <rjb> (amd turion 64)
[03:38] <rjb> it simply can't run at full speed and fully loaded for more than a while
[03:38] <corey> can someone tell me how i can install tar.gz packages?
[03:39] <arun> is it easy to switch from an ethernet connection to wifi and back using kubuntu?
[03:39] <BluesKaj> rbj , you must have a lotta stuff running in the background , athlon 64 here and it's not running hard at all on kubuntu feisty
[03:39] <rjb> BluesKaj: not much i think
[03:39] <rjb> in a desktop machine a get no such problems
[03:39] <SlimeyPete> corey: "tar -xvzf <filename>" will extract files from the .tar.gz. What you have to do after that dependson what the package contains. Check the README or INSTALL file inside the package for information. But in general it is best to avoid .tar.gz and use Synaptic.
[03:39] <rjb> a=I
[03:40] <SlimeyPete> erm, not synaptic, adept
[03:40] <rjb> i'm talking about the case when i stress it a little
[03:40] <rjb> like tar cvjf on a directory of 3 gig or so
[03:41] <corey> adept dont have Frostwire tho
[03:41] <Sini|work> rjb: Are you sure the feisty upgrade is the reason? If your laptop is one using fans by itself it might be those fans just got dusty enough over time to run slower now.
[03:41] <genii> SlimeyPete: I make that booboo too, I'm always in both #ubuntu and #kubuntu
[03:41] <SlimeyPete> genii: good to know it's not just me
[03:42] <rjb> Sini|work: hmm yeah i guess i ought to check out that dust thing
[03:43] <rjb> but it rarely manages to get a task like that done anyway, it hangs for some other reason too
[03:43] <rjb> ndiswrapper, maybe
[03:44] <rjb> (didn't hang it under edgy, though)
[03:46] <eagles0513875> rjb: what kida wifi card u got
[03:46] <rjb> broadcom 4318
[03:48] <rjb> i've been driving it with ndiswrapper since i got the machine (about 18 mths ago)
[03:48] <rjb> never had any issues
[03:49] <rjb> not with edgy, nor with the previous issue
[03:49] <eagles0513875> rjb dudei have a link u will love let me get it
[03:50] <rjb> ?
[03:52] <eagles0513875> it will help u get ur wifi working
[03:53] <eagles0513875> rjb: take a look at this http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[03:55] <rjb> eagles0513875: c'mon, i know that
[03:55] <rjb> it's very flaky for my card
[03:55] <rjb> sometimes takes up to an hour to connect to an ap
[03:55] <eagles0513875> wow
[03:56] <eagles0513875> rjb: i noticed u were talking bout ndiswrapper for some reason in kubuntu its split into 3 pkgs
[03:57] <Pringlesss> ciao ragazzi
[03:57] <Pringlesss> c' qualcuno che pu aiutarmi?
[03:57] <rjb> but since it doesn't seem to work i stopped trying & went back to ndiswrapper
[03:57] <rjb> !it | Pringless
[03:57] <ubotu> Pringless: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:58] <rjb> oops
[03:58] <Pringlesss> grazie
[03:58] <Pringlesss> thanks
[03:59] <rjb> anyway when i did manage to connect to my ap & activate the ip interface
[03:59] <rjb> the driver flooded my logfiles with warning messages (or possibly errors, i don't recalll)
[04:00] <rjb> didn't seem too trustworty
[04:03] <eagles0513875> humm
[04:03] <eagles0513875> interestin
[04:03] <seth> i installed strong dc++ 2.0.1
[04:03] <seth> can anyone tell me how to lounch it?
[04:03] <rjb> btw the page says it's not very stable on a 4318
[04:04] <rjb> the bcm43xx driver, i mean
[04:07] <grul> hello, can someone tell me how to install all the standard man pages, like "man exec" "man open" etc.
[04:10] <rjb> $ aptitude search manpages
[04:11] <graft> anyone here proficient with ktorrent?
[04:11] <rjb> then you see that no swedish manpages are available
[04:12] <graft> i'm trying to download only some files from a very large torrent, and it is taking much longer than it should
[04:12] <rjb> but if english is ok, then:
[04:12] <graft> also it says '2% complete' for some of the files i'm NOT downloading, even though there is no image on disk for them... what's going on?
[04:12] <rjb> $ aptitude install manpages manpages-dev
[04:15] <rjb> o u might also include manpages-posix and manpages-posix-dev
[04:15] <rjb> i imagine they might be useful
[04:16] <jono> does anyone know how to get the movie/picture file icons in konqueror to become thumbnails?
[04:16] <graft> yeah, there's a plugin for it
[04:16] <graft> but it has to be installed separately
[04:16] <graft> there's probably several plugins for it
[04:17] <jono> graft: are you talking to me?
[04:17] <graft> jono: yep
[04:17] <graft> sudo apt-get install mplayerthumbs
[04:17] <jono> graft: thanks
[04:19] <Brutha_> Hi. Can anyone tell me how to get libgl.a for Feisty Fawn? I can't find it anywhere
[04:20] <rjb> hmm there is no mplayerthumbs in my configured repositories
[04:22] <jono> graft: it said it couldn't find the package
[04:24] <BluesKaj> Brutha_, is that the correct name of the file or app ?
[04:25] <Brutha_> of the file.. Should be an open gl file, but I installed all relating packages already with Synaptic
[04:26] <BluesKaj> lots of libgl output from a  ' sudo apt-cache search libgl '
[04:27] <vzduch> BluesKaj: why do you apt-cache search w/ sudo?
[04:27] <BluesKaj> hmm, just a habit i guess
[04:28] <Budwaa> I have a few apps i need to run in ndows xp and i would like to set it up in a virtual machine. Any recommendations for which VM to use?
[04:28] <graft> jono: you can get it on kde-apps.org and compile it yourself
[04:28] <Brutha_> BluesKaj: It shouldbe in one of the mesa or glut packages. I installed all of them and most of the stuff in the list I get from that apt-cache
[04:29] <BluesKaj> vmware server has a free version
[04:29] <vzduch> BluesKaj: what exactly are you looking for?
[04:30] <pauljw_vm> vmware server is free, just not open.
[04:30] <graft> Brutha_: there's a libGL.a in libdevel/libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev
[04:30] <BluesKaj> not me vzduch , Brutha_ is lookibng for libgl.a
[04:31] <vzduch> there has been a 'whatprovides' switch in one of the apt cmdline tools, but I can't find it back :(
[04:31] <BluesKaj> nice search , graft
[04:31] <evjunior09> Okay someone, i need help gettin sun-java5-jre,  sun-java6-jre, sun-java5-jdk, sun-java6-jdk
[04:32] <Brutha_> graft: If I try to install it it wants to remove my graphics driver and 30 other packages
[04:32] <graft> well, that sucks
[04:33] <jono> graft: thanks...i just installed the xine preview and it seams to be working fine
[04:33] <graft> goldurnit - where should i go for ktorrent help?
[04:33] <graft> jono: nice. the mplayer one is supposedly much faster
[04:33] <patrick_> Please help me to solve the problem about browsing youtube.com
[04:33] <evjunior09> blueskaj: could you maybe sorta help me out.. i need help gettin sun-java5-jre,  sun-java6-jre, sun-java5-jdk, sun-java6-jdk
[04:34] <jono> graft: i might check it out then...thanks for the feedback
[04:34] <Riyoxke> configure: error: Terminfo/termcap not found - install ncurses-devel package
[04:34] <Riyoxke> :F
[04:34] <vzduch> perhaps I am mixing up things.. 'whatprovides' seems to be there in rpm and yum, but not in apt
[04:35] <Brutha_> Ah I think i found it
[04:35] <graft> patrick_: what is your problem? that would help us solve it
[04:35] <BluesKaj> evjunior09, I'm kinda confused about what java requirements are for different browsers and apps so i'm afraid to lead you astray
[04:35] <graft> did sun patch their huge java security hole?
[04:35] <evjunior09> oh, well i need if for limewire
[04:35] <Riyoxke> configure: error: Terminfo/termcap not found - install ncurses-devel package <- Can anyone help me? I can only find *.rpm's
[04:36] <graft> evjunior09: get gtk-gnutella, it's better than limewire
[04:36] <runlevelten> vzduch: you're thinking of aptfile
[04:36] <evjunior09> when i try to use Adept Manager it dosent bring up anything
[04:36] <vzduch> evjunior09: just install it
[04:36] <runlevelten> *apt-file
[04:36] <BluesKaj> FF patched 4 security holes yesterday ...saw it on wifeys pc
[04:36] <graft> evjunior09: and it doesn't need java
[04:36] <pag> Riyoxke, sudo apt-get install ncurses-dev  ?
[04:36] <evjunior09> vzduch: how do i install it without java?
[04:36] <patrick_> When I pressed the '>>' dialogue box in the bottom of the youtube web-page. I got a error message about server timeout... But in Windows XP environment, I have got any problem.
[04:37] <Riyoxke> pag: thanks, it's installing now :p
[04:37] <Riyoxke> hope that'll will work noow
[04:37] <patrick_> ...No problem in Windows XP, I mean...
[04:37] <pag> Riyoxke, what are you trying to do?
[04:37] <vzduch> evjunior09: I mean, install Java
[04:37] <vzduch> runlevelten: thx :)
[04:37] <Riyoxke> trying to install irssi
[04:38] <vzduch> Riyoxke: no need to try, just do it :)
[04:38] <evjunior09> graft: where do i find gtk-gnutella?
[04:38] <pag> Riyoxke, sudo apt-get install irssi
[04:38] <graft> evjunior09: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[04:38] <Riyoxke> it's already installed but i couldnt run it because of that error
[04:38] <pag> Riyoxke, or if you want to compile install all depencies: sudo apt-get build-dep irssi
[04:38] <graft> patrick_: what '>>' button?
[04:38] <Sini|work> Brutha_: Try dpkg-query -S "*libGL.a"
[04:38] <runlevelten> vzduch: np
[04:39] <evjunior09> graft: it says it couldnt find package
[04:39] <vzduch> evjunior09: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre
[04:39] <graft> evjunior09: what are you running? edgy? feisty?
[04:39] <vzduch> evjunior09: and be sure to have Multiverse enabled
[04:39] <evjunior09> feisty
[04:39] <graft> it is in feisty for sure
[04:39] <patrick_> I mean to press '>>' button for the next web page
[04:39] <graft> evjunior09: it is in universe
[04:40] <graft> !universe > evjunior09
[04:40] <graft> !botsnack
[04:40] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:40] <hero> they should disable that command
[04:41] <graft> why?
[04:41] <graft> it's useful as a ping
[04:41] <hero> oh. never thought of it that way
[04:41] <hero> OR you could just use ping :P
[04:41] <vzduch> otoh, it'd be a bit boring if the bot only had 'useful' commands ;)
[04:41] <graft> !ping
[04:41] <ubotu> pong
[04:41] <hero> heh
[04:41] <graft> hmm... well !botsnack is more fun :)
[04:42] <hero> and then someone does the botabuse command
[04:42] <runlevelten> Heh, !botpuke should be ZENworks.
[04:42] <vzduch> hero: yeah, if you keep doing that..
[04:42] <hero> i've seen the botabuse junk when someone runs one command
[04:42] <hero> people here often use that bot to boss people around
[04:42] <runlevelten> !examine Smaug
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about examine smaug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <runlevelten> :)
[04:42] <hero> but it's useful
[04:44] <evjunior09> graft: okay well my universe and multiverse are enabbled
[04:45] <evjunior09> so im kinda lost why it wont work
[04:45] <DebItalo> how to installl grub
[04:45] <hero> !grub
[04:45] <hero> aww :(
[04:45] <pag> evjunior09, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search sun-java
[04:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:46] <elite> hey i am running kubuntu 6.0 and was wondering on how to install a flashplayer to get youtube.com or any other online videos to work?
[04:46] <pag> evjunior09, that should output the choise of packages  they can be installed with sudo apt-get install packagename
[04:47] <evjunior09> pag: wait...so put the "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search sun-java" in the command line?
[04:47] <pag> evjunior09, yup... (you can drop the second sudo; it's useless)
[04:48] <evjunior09> Pag: okay now how do i install Java
[04:48] <pag> evjunior09, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[04:48] <evjunior09> Pag: i need these versions: sun-java5-jre,  sun-java6-jre, sun-java5-jdk, sun-java6-jdk
[04:49] <evjunior09> pag:
[04:49] <evjunior09> Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:49] <evjunior09> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:49] <evjunior09> is only available from another source
[04:49] <evjunior09> E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate
[04:49] <evjunior09> i know, Pastebin i forgot
[04:49] <pag> evjunior09, do you have multiverse enabled?
[04:49] <evjunior09> yes
[04:50] <pag> have you ran sudo apt-get update?
[04:50] <evjunior09> no
[04:50] <pag> try that first
[04:50] <evjunior09> wait yes
[04:51] <evjunior09> Pag: yes i already did that
[04:51] <pag> evjunior09, what platform are you running?  ( uname -m  can tell you that)
[04:51] <evjunior09> uname -m?
[04:51] <pag> evjunior09, yup. put that on the command line
[04:51] <evjunior09> i686
[04:52] <pag> evjunior09, sorry for suspecting, but at this very moment it really seems like you don't have multiverse enabled.... pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:53] <evjunior09> Okay how do i enable pastebin with 7.04
[04:53] <vzduch> !pastebin
[04:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:53] <pag>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:54] <evjunior09> pag: i mean...not pastebin! i mean Multiverse!
[04:54] <evjunior09> lol haha wow im tired
[04:54] <pag> !multiverse | evjunior09
[04:54] <ubotu> evjunior09: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:55] <evjunior09> ust select the options you want to activate, or enter the repository URL in the Third-Party Software tab, and hit Close. Now hit Reload when you're advised to reload the information about available software. You will now be able to get packages from the activated repositories.
[04:55] <evjunior09> what URL are they talking about?
[04:56] <stephen_> in the config file
[04:56] <stephen_> i thin
[04:56] <stephen_> k
[04:56] <pag> evjunior09, multivere isn't third-party, so you don't have to care about it atm
[04:58] <Sini|work> I think multiverse can be enabled in the "Kubuntu software" Tab in Software Sources
[04:58] <elite> hey is linux (kubuntu) do you use .rpm ? or .tar.gz for flashplayer?
[04:58] <vzduch> neither nor
[04:58] <pag> !flash | elite
[04:58] <ubotu> elite: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:58] <hero> what webpages should i look at if i want to know more about and protect my system against attacks that originate from irc?
[04:58] <pag> elite, and Ubuntu uses .deb
[04:58] <evjunior09> Pag: wait...im sooo lost, can you help me out. Im at this little window thats says software sources
[04:59] <elite> okay thanks
[04:59] <esto_es_de_risa> Hello, I have no sound! I did install kubuntu yesterday and all ok, but today I lost the sound. Any idea?
[04:59] <Ace2016> Hi all
[04:59] <vzduch> !sound
[04:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:59] <elite> i thought it was but the option was not there when you download the flashplayer from adobe website
[04:59] <mefisto__> trying to use Kcron, but can't seem to get it to start ktorrent. I've entered the full path (/usr/bin/ktorrent) and have the task enabled, but it won't start, even though cron seems to start it according to system logs
[04:59] <pag> evjunior09, I can try, but I'm not used to graphical package-managment...
[05:00] <evjunior09> pag: okay thanks =D
[05:00] <Sini|work> evjunior09: click the "Kubuntu Software" Tab, there should be an option named multiverse, enable it
[05:00] <esto_es_de_risa> vzduch: but yesterday I had sound
[05:00] <evjunior09> Universe and Multiverse arnt checked...hmm weird
[05:00] <evjunior09> but i checked up
[05:00] <hero> !dos
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <evjunior09> *checked em
[05:01] <evjunior09> pag: now do i hit close?
[05:01] <vzduch> esto_es_de_risa: and today you don't, so check all mixer and soundsystem options :)
[05:01] <pag> evjunior09, probably?  or if there's 'save' you should hit that :-/
[05:02] <rjb> fuck, another overheating shutdown
[05:02] <Sini|work> evjunior09: Hit Close, it will then ask you to update, answer this with yes
[05:02] <evjunior09> yep thats what i just did
[05:02] <evjunior09> sinijworK: thanks though
[05:02] <pag> rjb, watch your language, please.
[05:02] <rjb> sorry
[05:03] <Ace2016> rjb: does kubuntu shutdown when its overheating?
[05:03] <evjunior09> pag: okay there both enabled. Now what do i do
[05:03] <pag> evjunior09, now install the packages you need
[05:04] <mefisto__> evjunior09: fetch updates first
[05:04] <pag> Ace2016, every decent system does.
[05:05] <jhutchins> Actually, most BIOSs shut the system down if it overheats.
[05:05] <rjb> Ace2016: i believe it's te bios that does it
[05:05] <jhutchins> Ayuh.
[05:05] <Ace2016> rjb: oh ok
[05:06] <mefisto__> kcron help, anyone?
[05:06] <vzduch> I don' see the point in running KTorrent as a cron job
[05:06] <Hirvinen> !ask | mefisto__
[05:06] <ubotu> mefisto__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:07] <rjb> ktemperature shows like 95 C just before it shuts down
[05:07] <vzduch> 95C.. your CPU should be fried by now..
[05:07] <mefisto__> vzduch: I want it to start/stop ktorrent so it only downloads during offpeak hours, to save monthly bandwidth limits
[05:08] <mefisto__> Hirvinen: see my question above, at 00:59
[05:08] <rjb> unless i use powersave mode the temp. goes over limit quite frequently
[05:10] <vzduch> rjb: then run to your nearest parts supplier & buy parts to upgrade your cooling :)
[05:11] <mefisto__> I have 2 tasks set in kcron, one to start and one to stop ktorrent. It stops just fine, but starting it doesn't work, unless I start it manually from the kcron window
[05:11] <rjb> vzduch: this is a laptop, and a fairly new one
[05:12] <elite> hey anyone know what line to put in for termanal for java6?
[05:12] <vzduch> chronic overheating could be a reason for a return..
[05:12] <pag> elite, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[05:12] <kalorin_> man I'm so glad I have all these old school friends that care for me enough to send me greeting cards...
[05:13] <elite> pag, thanks
[05:13] <pag> elite, np.
[05:14] <elite> it still wont find the packages!!
[05:14] <Hirvinen> mefisto__: No, I wouldn't. Firstly, I have no idea what time zone you are in. Secondly, this channel has enough traffic for lines to pass out of sight relatively quickly, so you can just ask the question again some time later. Thirdly, I'm not familiar with kcron, so I couldn't help you except giving advice on how to seek that help.
[05:15] <mefisto__> Hirvinen: when I repeat a question, people tell me not to repeat. Makes it difficult either way to ask questions
[05:16] <jhutchins> mefisto__: be sure to use full path names and escape illegal characters.
[05:16] <jhutchins> mefisto__: It's ok to repeat say, once an hour, thirty minutes.  Less than fifteen minutes is too often.
[05:16] <mefisto__> jhutchins: /usr/bin/ktorrent should start it, right?
[05:17] <jhutchins> mefisto__: It works in console?
[05:18] <mefisto__> yes
[05:18] <elite> i find kubuntu or any other linux distros to run faster and view webpages faster with using wireless because the os is using the wireless card to its full capacity (i think) than M$ windows
[05:18] <jhutchins> mefisto__: You may need to specify the display output, I don't think cron has access to xauth.
[05:18] <elite> is yellow dog linux any good? has anyone ever heard of it?
[05:19] <mefisto__> jhutchins: how do I specify display output?
[05:19] <SlimeyPete> elite: it's mostly famous for running on macs and ps3s
[05:19] <elite> yeah
[05:19] <elite> thought so
[05:19] <elite> but can a linux do parellel? run windows on it kinda like a mac does?
[05:20] <SlimeyPete> well, you can use virtualbox/qemu/vmware to do that
[05:20] <elite> all thought i wouldnt but can you?
[05:20] <elite> they say vista is the best in security?
[05:20] <SlimeyPete> supposedly so
[05:20] <vzduch> who says that? o0
[05:21] <devnull> Does anyone know if amarok 1.4.6 is compiled with mtp support by default?
[05:21] <Daisuke_Ido> vzduch: mentally handicapped squirrels
[05:21] <Daisuke_Ido> devnull: it is afaik
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> it works with my mtp player, at least :)
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> sansa ftw!
[05:22] <devnull> Ok sounds good. My dad has a philips gogear hdd082, and I was trying to confirm it would work properly
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, and parallels workstation is available for linux, so if your processor supports it, you can do virtualization rather than emulation
[05:22] <devnull> And so far it appears that linux is the only OS they can't mess up
[05:23] <mimik> anyone know how to make firefox start maximized?
[05:23] <devnull> maximize it
[05:23] <devnull> then close it properly
[05:25] <mimik> that worked, thanks, do i have to close it properly every time, or will that one time do the trick?
[05:25] <devnull> Should be fine now, just dont resize it and close it properly
[05:26] <devnull> It saves the window dimensions on close and restores them
[05:26] <mimik> great
[05:26] <mefisto__> mimik: I think it should open up in the state it was last in
[05:26] <mimik> thanks
[05:27] <evjunior09> hey guys, my adept crashed....how do i stop it?
[05:28] <pag> !aptfix | evjunior09
[05:28] <ubotu> evjunior09: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:29] <pag> evjunior09, btw; That's *exactly* the reason, why I stoppet using GUI pkg-managment ;P
[05:29] <elite> can you upgrade kopete? or atleast have a display pic? for other users to see
[05:29] <elite> im using a msn protocol!
[05:29] <evjunior09> Pag: yeah its annoying
[05:30] <pag> elite, settings -> Accounts -> modify -> User-info -tab
[05:30] <elite> okay
[05:30] <pag> elite, if you use only MSN I'd reccomend KMess instead of Kopete
[05:30] <elite> do i have that in kubuntu 6.0? i havent updated this at all so
[05:31] <evjunior09> it says this when i try to install Java
[05:31] <evjunior09> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[05:31] <ryanakca> elite: yes, `sudo aptitude install kmess`
[05:32] <elite> okay
[05:32] <pag> evjunior09, install java via apt-get  (that way it'll at least output the error msg that I would understand :)
[05:32] <elite> i just started using kubuntu i acuttally use windows but like this better. Some people i know only use liux never touched windows at all
[05:33] <evjunior09> pag: so what command? sudo apt-get...what
[05:34] <pag> evjunior09, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre  (lets start only with this one)
[05:34] <elite> i heard of a program called WINE it lets some windows programs work on kubuntu but sometimes doesnt always work not sure if it works for games? any one tried
[05:34] <dr_willis> !wine
[05:34] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:34] <evjunior09> Elite: yeah not many big programs work with it
[05:34] <dr_willis> wine may or may not work.. depends on the program.
[05:34] <evjunior09> i.e iTunes, AIM
[05:35] <dr_willis> There are linux native alternatives to many of those programs. (often better in many ways)
[05:35] <ksivaji> hi dr_willis
[05:35] <evjunior09> pag:
[05:35] <dr_willis> Howey ksivaji
[05:35] <evjunior09> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[05:35] <evjunior09> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:35] <evjunior09>   sun-java6-jre: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-2ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed or
[05:35] <evjunior09>                           ia32-sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-2ubuntu2) but it is not installable
[05:35] <evjunior09> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[05:35] <dr_willis> run the         apt-get -f install    - like it suggested yet?
[05:35] <dr_willis> with a sudo on the front, of course
[05:35] <pag> evjunior09, it even tells you what to do, ain't that nice :)
[05:36] <ksivaji> evjunior09 use sudo aptitude sun-java6-jre
[05:36] <dr_willis> it just said might.. :) heh...
[05:36] <ksivaji> evjunior09 use sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[05:36] <arun> what are your favourite window decorations?
[05:36] <ksivaji> arun hi
[05:36] <dr_willis> arun,  i tend to just use 'pastik' theme
[05:36] <pag> arun, I use Domino... it's nice enought for me
[05:37] <dr_willis> i want the buttons clear, and obvious. :)
[05:38] <elite> i know there is better programs and stuff just wondering is games work like .exe? or can i install say F.E.A.R? (its a game)
[05:38] <laodie> ?
[05:38] <elite> for wine*
[05:39] <evjunior09> elite: to be honest, wine isnt a very good program
[05:39] <pag> elite, most games use directX  and Wine lacs support for that
[05:39] <evjunior09> elite: ive tried 10 programs...didnt get any workin
[05:39] <arun> domino seems nice
[05:39] <arun> i'm using polyester
[05:40] <ksivaji> i think one more software is there like wine to run windows games in linux
[05:40] <arun> cedega
[05:40] <MaTiAz> yeah
[05:40] <mefisto__> elite: it will run a text editor or something simple like that, but the more sophisticated, the less likely it will work
[05:40] <arun> is there any way to get gtk apps like firefox to use the kde styles for buttons, text boxes, etc?
[05:40] <arun> i mean buttons on websites
[05:40] <ksivaji> !cedega
[05:40] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[05:41] <mefisto__> arun: there are websites explaining how to make firefox kde-friendly. try google
[05:41] <usamahashimi> hello everyone!
[05:41] <Kr4t05> arun: In Kcontrol, there should be a dialog that says "For GTK applications use: (RADIO BUTTON) My KDE theme (RADIO BUTTON) A different theme"
[05:42] <elite> mefisto_, i think thats binary i mean run a windows game under WINE*
[05:42] <usamahashimi> which king of Video Card is best support in kubuntu, NVIDIA, GeForce or some else?
[05:42] <elite> NVIDIA kicks ati butt haha
[05:43] <Kr4t05> usamahashimi: Currently, nvidia's linux drivers are superior to ATi's
[05:43] <arun> Kr4t05: Yeah, I've set it over there, but it doesn't seem to be making much difference
[05:43] <arun> I still see ugly buttons
[05:43] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[05:43] <damien_> Hey guys, Anyone know why I can't delete my Junkmail in Hotmail, It works fine on my windows partition :/
[05:43] <lied> hi
[05:43] <evjunior09> Hey thanks guys, i got java workin, along with Limewire
[05:43] <Kr4t05> arun: Lemme see, this might help with Firefox. http://www.konqufox.fr
[05:44] <BluesKaj> pag, do you remember how to reset konqueror back to Filemanager status rather than default browser status ?
[05:44] <lied> i have trouble downloading my emails via IMAP
[05:44] <lied> i use kmail
[05:44] <evjunior09> for some reason yesturday, i unplugged my monitor and my whole system freaked. thats why i had to re-install Kubuntu
[05:44] <Kr4t05> arun: Ooops, bad URL
[05:44] <rjb> did matrox go out of business? some years ago i recall matrox cards were quite well supported
[05:44] <pag> BluesKaj, Settings -> View Profile  ?
[05:45] <Kr4t05> arun: http://konquefox.free.fr/index.html
[05:45] <Kr4t05> There ya go. ;)
[05:45] <arun> Kr4t05: found it myself, thanks
[05:45] <arun> this seems cool
[05:45] <arun> do you use it?
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> matrox is sorta still around
[05:46] <usamahashimi> hello everyone!
[05:46] <rjb> doesn't seem to be around much on the consumer market
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> no, not really
[05:47] <usamahashimi> which king of Video Card is best supported in kubuntu, NVIDIA, GeForce or some else?
[05:47] <rjb> (what's a "king of Video Card"?)
[05:47] <elite_> im using a nvidia vanata or vanta? works fine with me
[05:48] <elite_> Geforce 8800
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> usamahashimi: geforce IS nvidia
[05:48] <usamahashimi> Daisuke_Ido: sorry, i dont know much about video cards
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> and nvidia cards tend to be well supported
[05:48] <elite_> Nvidia GEFORCE 8800, 7800
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> !es | lombra
[05:48] <ubotu> lombra: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:49] <usamahashimi> Daisuke_Ido: can you guide me that which card i buy so my kubuntu support is?
[05:49] <arun> Kr4t05: do you use konquefox?
[05:49] <usamahashimi> it*?
[05:49] <vzduch> Daisuke_Ido: that was (1) Portuguese, (2) an auto-away msg
[05:49] <dr_willis> about any nvidia based card will do ya.
[05:49] <usamahashimi> Daisuke_Ido: support it*?
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> usamahashimi: i would personally recommend a card in the geforce 6 or 7 line
[05:49] <dr_willis> depends on your budget and needs.
[05:49] <elite_> does kubuntu constantly reload drivers so that u can exchange another hdd to another pc and everything will work fine?
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> vzduch: oops x2
[05:49] <dr_willis> elite_,  ive had that work.. and ive had that not work real well.. :)
[05:50] <dr_willis> depends on the systems you are switching to/from i guess.
[05:50] <elite_> lol
[05:50] <Kr4t05> arun: I use Firefox with the Konquefox extension, yes. Konquefox isn't really a fork of Firefox, but a set of tweaks, hacks and extensions that make the FIrefox UI a tab more KDE-friendly. ;)
[05:50] <arun> Yeah, I got that
[05:50] <dr_willis> one one box. ages ago. (it may be better now) it dident get some of the MB modules loaded it needed.
[05:50] <usamahashimi> Daisuke_Ido: can you tell me that from where i can get information about that cards (i.e 6 or 7)?
[05:50] <elite_> windows sucks from xp anyways it doesnt always reload drivers sometimes rarley and u have to go into system setting and driver manager thing and delete evrything
[05:50] <dr_willis> and sound cards may confuse it.
[05:50] <rjb> vzduch: WHAT was portuguese?
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> nvidia.com
[05:50] <arun> Kr4t05: for some reason, whenever i set gtk apps to use Qt, it reverts back to the default
[05:51] <arun> i have gtk-qt-engine installed
[05:51] <vzduch> rjb: [17:49:02]   * lombra esta fora: Saindo por enquanto.
[05:51] <rjb> ah ok
[05:51] <pag> arun, QtCurve is a really nice theme for both, Gnome and KDE ;)
[05:52] <dr_willis> soon it will be Knome! :)
[05:52] <arun> QtCurve?
[05:52] <mefisto__> arun: my vote is for QtCurve too
[05:52] <elite_> a lot of people run linux on older pc's becuase i gues there better? i am running emachines 550Mhz 256mb/SDram
[05:52] <ksivaji> !knome
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <pag> arun, look it up @ kde-look.org
[05:52] <dr_willis> I got it going on a Pent 1 233mmx :)
[05:52] <elite_> lol
[05:52] <elite_> mmx
[05:53] <dr_willis> Yep - that makes it so much better!
[05:53] <vzduch> I have Kubuntu on an Athlon 900 for daily enjoyment :)
[05:53] <elite_> i remeber along time ago i saw a p2 or pent1 with dou core it came up to only like 450/500Mhz?
[05:53] <arun> pag: yeah, seems nice
[05:53] <arun> Do I need to install both the GTK and KDE versions separately?
[05:54] <pag> arun, yup.
[05:54] <pag> arun, that's the way you can achieve conscienty between Qt and GTK
[05:55] <elite_> what is the lowest mhz? on a acutal pc? 100?
[05:55] <elite_> like a commondore64 the support the internet lol
[05:55] <rjb> oh how cool, one can get rid of the stupid gnome filechooser in firefox
[05:55] <arun> how do i install new styles
[05:55] <dr_willis> I had a Pent 1 100mhz with Ubuntu on it befor.
[05:55] <elite_> wow
[05:56] <elite_> was it slow?
[05:56] <dr_willis> laptop even.
[05:56] <arun> rjb: yup, i just saw that too
[05:56] <dr_willis> took forever to install..but it ran ok.
[05:56] <pag> arun, there're .deb's at kde-look too :)
[05:56] <dr_willis> i used the console mainly
[05:56] <rjb> elite_: i first ran linux on a 33MHz 386
[05:56] <elite_> wow
[05:56] <elite_> 33
[05:56] <rjb> AND X11 was nearly usable
[05:56] <arun> pag: i just downloaded a tar.gz
[05:56] <s0nix> hi, i want to know: is it possible to REDOWNLOAD (not reinstall) all INSTALLED packages with apt-get ?
[05:57] <rjb> fvwm v.1 iirc
[05:57] <pag> arun, then it can be compiled as any other programm  ./configure && make && sudo make install
[05:57] <pag> !b-e | arun
[05:57] <ubotu> arun: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:58] <elite_> is there a windows older than 95?
[05:58] <mimik> yes
[05:58] <pag> elite_, 3.1
[05:58] <SlimeyPete> yep
[05:58] <rjb> windows 96 was v.4
[05:58] <SlimeyPete> windows 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, 3.11
[05:58] <rjb> s/96/95/
[05:58] <SlimeyPete> and NT 3
[05:59] <arun> elite_ 3.1
[05:59] <elite_> i had windows 1.0 it was black and white
[05:59] <arun> that shit used to suck
[05:59] <elite_> something like that
[05:59] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[05:59] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:59] <elite_> the most secure os i think is
[05:59] <PriceChild> !ohmy | arun
[05:59] <ubotu> arun: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:59] <dr_willis> I ran CPM on a ROck! :)
[05:59] <arun> PriceChild: sorry
[05:59] <rjb> w95 was the first to support tcp/ip out of the box
[06:00] <elite_> the most secure os in the world
[06:00] <elite_> DOS
[06:00] <elite_> haha
[06:00] <dr_willis> GEOS
[06:00] <dr_willis> :0
[06:00] <elite_> lol
[06:00] <genii> rjb No, it was WFW 3.11
[06:00] <genii> (tcp out of the box)
[06:00] <elite_> u have to but the tape deck in press record and then wait for the whole tape to record and u get a simple game like pong
[06:01] <dr_willis> elite_,  i have several tape players for my C64 and Vic20
[06:01] <rjb> genii: i might be wrong but i recall having to install somthing called trumpet winsock on 3.11 to access the i'net
[06:01] <dr_willis> :)
[06:01] <rjb> but then, maybe that was with 3.1
[06:01] <pag> guys.. really; that conversation is really getting far away from topic.  So would you mind moving to -offtopic, please?
[06:02] <elite_> lol
[06:02] <elite_> sorry
[06:02] <genii> rjb It needed winsock for dialup but you could have tcp/ip networking LAN
[06:02] <dr_willis> so now ther will be NO conversataion in here for the next hr...
[06:02] <dr_willis> :P
[06:02] <genii> pag Yes, you are right
[06:02] <elite_> wait where can i download and install aircrack and airsnort?
[06:03] <dr_willis> !find aircrack
[06:03] <ubotu> Found: aircrack, aircrack-ng
[06:03] <BluesKaj> at aircoke
[06:03] <Arcer> hi
[06:03] <dr_willis> !find airsnort
[06:03] <ubotu> Found: airsnort
[06:03] <Arcer> excuse me
[06:03] <arun> what's aircrack and airsnort do?
[06:03] <Arcer> i suggest you
[06:03] <dr_willis> !info airsnort
[06:03] <ubotu> airsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (feisty), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB
[06:03] <arun> i thought this was a family friendly channel :)
[06:03] <Arcer> to use a live distro
[06:03] <Arcer> like
[06:03] <Arcer> backtrack 2 for this work
[06:04] <elite_> aircrack sniffs out weak air packets and trys and gets a WEP key for u to well piggyback on someone else's signal
[06:04] <Arcer> is slax based and it have an high compatiblity whit most device
[06:05] <elite_> lol i think i am the youngest in this channel. i know to much about computers
[06:05] <elite_> for my age anyways
[06:06] <BluesKaj> elite_, be careful what you brag about ...
[06:06] <Arcer> lol
[06:06] <arun> especially in this channel
[06:07] <arun> elite_ how old are you?/
[06:07] <Riyoxke> so how old are you?
[06:07] <BluesKaj> no kidding arun ...
[06:07] <Riyoxke> 10?
[06:07] <Riyoxke> :p
[06:07] <rjb> elite_: computers != pc's
[06:07] <rjb> there's quite a bit more
[06:07] <Arcer> rjb true :D
[06:07] <arun> i totally love knotes.. i just discovered how useful it can be today
[06:08] <Arcer> if he spoke of aircrack and he know the matter
[06:08] <Arcer> he must know algebric methods and crittografic characteristic of wep
[06:08] <Arcer> (excuse me for my english i'am italian)
[06:09] <vzduch> Arcer: being a non-English native speaker is no excuse for bad English :P
[06:09] <vzduch> (just kidding)
[06:09] <Arcer> thank :D
[06:10] <BluesKaj> knotes rocks ...very handy lil app
[06:10] <rjb> hmm make that "non-native speaker of English", perhaps?;P
[06:10] <vzduch> rjb: possibly :D
[06:10] <pauljw_vm> Arcer: hey, we can understand your english, more than can be said about my italian... :)
[06:11] <BluesKaj> I speak english , but not native , my version is canadjun :)
[06:11] <spawn57> basket kicks knotes' ass over the moon
[06:11] <MaTiAz> I still gotta get rid of my bad habit of spelling 'probably' as 'propably'
[06:11] <Arcer> pauljw_vm: Is very easy IItalian :P
[06:11] <rjb> wasn't it "probbly"?;)
[06:11] <arun> spawn: what's basket
[06:11] <Arcer> what you read is what you wrote
[06:11] <Arcer> write
[06:11] <Arcer> lol
[06:11] <vzduch> Arcer: no insult, but I think Spanish is easier ;)
[06:11] <laodie> 
[06:12] <arun> laodie brings out the big guns
[06:12] <BluesKaj> MaTiAz, try " prolly "
[06:12] <vzduch> !zh | laodie
[06:12] <ubotu> laodie: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:12] <spawn57> haha ubuntu hong kong, for real?
[06:12] <BluesKaj> !cn | laodie
[06:12] <ubotu> laodie: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:12] <Arcer> :D
[06:13] <spawn57> damn I dind't think there were many linux users here
[06:13] <spawn57> I got one of my co workers into it though.
[06:13] <Arcer> so i'm looking for a software to transform swf file in avi file....someone know something?
[06:13] <vzduch> never heard of such software, but would be interesting :)
[06:14] <spawn57> would be strange too, people convert the other way
[06:14] <arun> Arcer: Is it swf or flv
[06:14] <Arcer> swf
[06:14] <Arcer> flash
[06:14] <vzduch> spawn57: well, there has to be a way for MTV showing Happy Tree Friends ;)
[06:14] <elite_> ohh sorry
[06:14] <elite_> i was bussy lol i am 14
[06:15] <dr_willis> swf to avi.. easy
[06:15] <arun> If you can convert the swf to flv (flash video) using Macromedia flash, then it's easy to convert to avi
[06:15] <dr_willis> ffmpeg can do that
[06:15] <laodie> 
[06:15] <dr_willis> i do belive.
[06:15] <spawn57> available on dvd =D
[06:15] <arun> or follow dr_willis' method
[06:15] <dr_willis> Oh wait.. i may be confuised..
[06:15] <vzduch> laodie: English please
[06:15] <dr_willis> hmm..  i know ya can convert flv to avi.
[06:15] <Arcer> yes dr_willis but i use ffmpeg but the output is a file unreadble
[06:16] <spawn57> i dare you to printscreen everything and string'em up into an mpeg
[06:16] <arun> Arcer: is it a youtube video?
[06:16] <dr_willis> im not even sure how swf and flv differ.....
[06:16] <elite_> vdownloader? vixy.net!!!!
[06:16] <Arcer> it encode only soundtrack not video track
[06:16] <Arcer> arun:  no it is'nt
[06:16] <elite_> vixy.net is the best online converter
[06:16] <arun> because you can convert youtube videos directly without any software
[06:16] <arun> http://www.zamzar.com/
[06:16] <Arcer> yes i know thi service
[06:16] <elite_> u put the URL of a youtube video and then select wich on u want .mp4/.avi?
[06:16] <BluesKaj> laodie was alreadt prompted about chinese
[06:16] <elite_> www.vixy.net
[06:17] <dr_willis> hmm.. used vixy befor.. never seen zamzar befor
[06:17] <kirke> Hi, I'm on kubuntu 7.04 and I'm trying to launch Kmail, buy I don't know how, any idea?
[06:17] <arun> kirke: open kontact
[06:17] <pag> kirke, or: alt+f2  and type: kmail
[06:17] <vzduch> kirke: Menu >> Internet >> KMail
[06:17] <pag> vzduch, isn't there by default iirc.
[06:17] <vzduch> so now you got 3 different ways :)
[06:18] <vzduch> pag: don't remember.. at least I have it there
[06:18] <pag> vzduch, oh sorry, it is
[06:18] <Arcer> so
[06:18] <Arcer> hi all everybody
[06:18] <Arcer> see later :D
[06:18] <elite_> vixy.net is better i think
[06:18] <Arcer> thakns for all
[06:22] <elite_> or they where lieing
[06:23] <elite_> are these ppl acutally watching the chat or are the minimized?
[06:23] <arun> ?
[06:24] <dr_willis> o_0
[06:25] <dr_willis> Yes... :)
[06:25] <elite_> urgg my pc sucks
[06:25] <vzduch> ?
[06:25] <elite_> i burnt out my power supply
[06:25] <elite_> and its one of thoes smaller ones so now i have a normaly bigger sized one stickking out of the top of the case
[06:26] <rjb> damn just had a reading of 94C on ktemperature
[06:26] <elite_> wow
[06:26] <spawn57> [00:25]  --> You have joined the channel #ubuntu-hk (n=sunil@n219078019016.netvigator.com).
[06:26] <spawn57> [00:26]  <spawn57> HONG KONG REPRESENT
[06:26] <rjb> now down to 74
[06:26] <spawn57> =D
[06:27] <elite_> anyone here have liqiuid cooling?
[06:27] <MaTiAz> rjb: Heh, you could start cooking stuff with your machine :)
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> spawn57: that's pretty childish, don't you think?
[06:27] <elite_> where do u get Ktemputer?
[06:27] <arun> spawn57: how exactly is basket better than knotes
[06:27] <elite_> www.hackaday.com if u know that site they cooked an egg on a xbox360 in 7mins!!!
[06:28] <spawn57> Daisuke_Ido: totally =D ...i don't think I'll ever grow up
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> fair enough.
[06:28] <MaTiAz> elite_: You seen the video where the guy pours an egg on the GPU heatsink and then eats it?
[06:28] <elite_> where?
[06:28] <spawn57> arun: basket isn't just notes, it's graphics, drag and drop files, backgrounds etc etc, if you really make use of those things, then yeah it's better
[06:28] <elite_> on hackaday?
[06:28] <kirke> vzduch, I don't have "Menu >> Internet >> Kmail" How can add it manually?
[06:28] <mefisto__> jhutchins: thanks for the kcron hints, I think I've found an answer at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185993&highlight=kcron+howto
[06:29] <elite_> MaTiAz, where?
[06:29] <arun> but that defeats the purpose of just jotting things down on a post it
[06:29] <spawn57> as an example,I used my camera to take a pics of all the things I want to clean up in my apartment, put them in basket, added notes, added tags, and am going through'em..
[06:29] <MaTiAz> elite_: It's in youtube, don't remember any keywords though
[06:29] <rjb> !ktemperature
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktemperature - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <arun> as in, if i have to open another window and paste something
[06:29] <arun> that's like google notebook
[06:29] <spawn57> picture says a thousand words.
[06:29] <spawn57> I guess.
[06:30] <spawn57> depends on what you prefer
[06:30] <rjb> # aptitude show ktemperature --> is in universe
[06:30] <arun> spawn57: downloading it anyway, just to see :)
[06:30] <spawn57> arun, it's like voodoopad, onenote, google notebook, probably act too
[06:30] <spawn57> give it a shot, it's got a kontact plugin too =] 
[06:31] <BluesKaj> kirke, are you running kubuntu or ubuntu?
[06:31] <vzduch> kirke: are you sure it's installed?  i.e. did it come up when running as a command?
[06:32] <elite_> what is better ubuntu or kubuntu? i have all 3 even edubuntu
[06:32] <vzduch> elite_: you decide
[06:33] <vzduch> under the hood it's basically the same, just different appearance/userland apps
[06:33] <kirke> i'm on kubuntu
[06:33] <kirke> with alt+F2 it runs
[06:33] <pag> elite_, this is #kubuntu cahnnel - it's pretty easy to guess what we will vote for :)
[06:33] <rjb> kubuntu of course - we're on #kubuntu for a reason, right?;)
[06:33] <elite_> okay
[06:33] <jhutchins> elite_: You tell us then.
[06:33] <kirke> but using catapult not.
[06:33] <mefisto__> elite_: which do you like?
[06:33] <BluesKaj> elite , this is a Kubuntu channel ...most ppl here use the kubuntu-desktop and /or kde
[06:33] <elite_> kubuntu but just wondering
[06:33] <elite_> lol that was real dumb of me
[06:33] <vzduch> kirke: catapult?
[06:33] <arun> spawn57: um how do i tag something using basket?
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> elite, you mean all four?
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> you forgot xubuntu
[06:34] <elite_> yeha
[06:34] <evjunior09> So whats the difference between Edgy & Feisty
[06:34] <jhutchins> elite_: You can check the stats on distrowatch.org - they're not decicive by any means, but they're something.
[06:34] <pag> vzduch, handy programm that has more funcitionality than alt+f2... it's a launcer with few added functions
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> evjunior09: feisty is supported
[06:34] <vzduch> Daisuke_Ido: there'll soon be another to add to.. Fluxbuntu *gg*
[06:34] <spawn57> move your mouse over the item, you'll see a small drop down arrow on the very left of it
[06:35] <elite_> i think ubuntu has a more family pc type and kubuntu more like networking and stuff thats my opion
[06:35] <spawn57> or just click it and hit tags on the menu bar
[06:35] <evjunior09> Daisuke_Ido: Supported?
[06:35] <arun> ah ok
[06:35] <elite_> can u change the click on kubuntu so its not just 1click terminate?
[06:35] <arun> got it, seems pretty nice
[06:35] <pag> Daisuke_Ido, so is edgy. Edgys EOL will be only @ 8.04
[06:35] <arun> elite_: yes
[06:36] <elite_> arun, where?
[06:36] <spawn57> you can add your own tags too ..and some of them pretty cool, like for the progress bar tag.  every time you click on it, it increases by 25%
[06:36] <elite_> arun, mouse options?
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> pag: for all intents and purposes, edgy is pretty much dead
[06:36] <arun> elite_: system settings > keyboard and mouse
[06:36] <spawn57> similar thing with the priority tag
[06:36] <arun> in the 'mouse' section
[06:36] <spawn57> and ou can drag and drop any file into the basket and make a copy of that file
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> still officially supported, but it's not in wide use
[06:36] <pag> Daisuke_Ido, that's true - but it's still officially supported
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> pag: i...  just said that :P
[06:37] <elite_> arun, thanks i got it
[06:37] <evjunior09> arun: wow thanks i was just reading what you said...i feel kinda dumb, but ive tryin to change the 1-click option
[06:38] <elite_> was that against me?
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> so, should the official channel for dapper support be #ubuntu-2 since gutsy is #ubuntu+1 ?
[06:38] <evjunior09> elite_: huh?
[06:38] <elite_> was that against me?
[06:38] <evjunior09> no
[06:38] <elite_> how i asked?
[06:38] <elite_> ohh
[06:38] <evjunior09> no ive been trying to change that option
[06:39] <evjunior09> i hate the 1-click
[06:39] <elite_> ohh
[06:39] <elite_> k
[06:39] <evjunior09> sorry if it sounded like i was mocking you
[06:40] <dranas> anyone know how to change the boot splash and login screens in kubunty fiesty?
[06:41] <pag> !theme
[06:41] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:41] <pag> d'oh.. remembered the factoid wrong :-(
[06:42] <dranas> i try using kdm but it never changes
[06:42] <pag> dranas, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[06:42] <dranas> i change the bg and evrything but it stays the same as the default one
[06:42] <elite_> can u overclock your prossecor in kubuntu?
[06:43] <elite_> i wanna get my 550 to a 600Mhz or something
[06:43] <BluesKaj> dranas, k-menu/ system settings/splash screen
[06:43] <pag> dranas, you'll probably need kdmtheme -package installed
[06:43] <arun> evjunior09: i didn't like the one-click either
[06:44] <dranas> let me check the kdmtheme -package thing
[06:44] <arun> i was also really happy when i figured out how to separate taskbars for different desktops
[06:44] <dranas> but i went to the k menu / system settings splash screen but it never actually changes
[06:45] <BluesKaj> don't forget to click on apply. dranas
[06:45] <evjunior09> any reason why my sound wont work on firefox?
[06:45] <evjunior09> it works for limewire
[06:45] <evjunior09> but not firefox
[06:46] <pag> evjunior09, you mean sound from flash videos in FF?
[06:46] <evjunior09> yes
[06:47] <pag> evjunior09, I can't remember the solution off-hand, just gimmie a sec please :)
[06:47] <dranas> i clicked on apply
[06:47] <evjunior09> okay thanks =D
[06:47] <dranas> im not that slow
[06:47] <elite_> what is the hotest a cpu can stand like what temp?
[06:48] <arun> anyone use kubuntu on a laptop here?
[06:48] <dranas> i installed kdmtheme thing, ill see if that solves the unchanging problem
[06:49] <evjunior09> arun: my best friend does
[06:49] <dranas> i do
[06:49] <evjunior09> i installed it for her
[06:49] <martoya> arun: here
[06:49] <pag> evjunior09, umm.. which version did you have?
[06:49] <evjunior09> Fiesty
[06:50] <arun> martoya: how easy is it to switch from "plugged-in" internet to wifi
[06:50] <evjunior09> Arun: use Wireless assistant
[06:50] <pag> evjunior09, I'm not sure at all, but found that one: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[06:50] <BluesKaj> dranas, i din't mean to be insulting ,but sometime the obvious question has to be asked :)
[06:50] <martoya> arun: knetworkmanager
[06:51] <dranas> i know
[06:51] <dranas> knetworkmanager works really well
[06:51] <arun> martoya: my ISP requires me to input a few settings in knetwork manager, like default gateway, etc
[06:51] <arun> i use ethernet at home, and mght need to use wifi in my client's office
[06:51] <arun> is it easy to switch
[06:52] <evjunior09> arun: easy to switch between Ethernet, and Wireless?
[06:53] <arun> like in windows, if it detects a wifi connection, it asks if you want to connect. is it similar in kubuntu?
[06:53] <arun> evjunior09: yes
[06:53] <stdin> arun: similar, yes
[06:53] <evjunior09> arun: yes its easy
[06:53] <justin6891> rq0
[06:53] <stdin> arun: you click on the icon in the system tray and choose the wireless net to connect to
[06:53] <evjunior09> on your computer (when plugged into ethernet) does it have a icon in the system tray like a white thing?
[06:53] <arun> what i've set specific IP address, default gateway, etc.. will i have to delete all that first before i connect to the wireless?
[06:54] <arun> evjunior09: yes, there's an icon
[06:54] <arun> it opens knetworkmanager if i right click
[06:54] <sivaji_> ksivaji  : hi
[06:54] <evjunior09> arun: okay just right click and go to options
[06:54] <evjunior09> arun: and click enable wireless
[06:55] <stdin> arun: if you have static addresses, you can just use system settings to put them in.
[06:55] <spookylukey> I'm having a bizarre problem with PATH - think I'm going mad
[06:55] <stdin> arun: just like a wired network
[06:55] <elite_> how can i change the webbrowser so it always on google. or something and not on konquer
[06:55] <arun> stdin: but if i already have static addresses that i use for my 'plugged in' internet, will i have to replace those with the wifi? or is it as easy as 'enabling wireless' in knetworkmanager
[06:56] <spookylukey> elite_: Go to 'Configure/Configure Konqueror/' and change 'Home URL'
[06:56] <elite_> okay
[06:56] <stdin> arun: well they are seen as different connection, so they won't share the settings. you'll just have to copy the settings
[06:57] <spookylukey> I have a personal 'bin' dir, which is on my PATH before the system dirs.  If I put a replacement command in the bin dir (and make it executable), it doesn't get executed instead of the normal one
[06:57] <neusonce> hey  guys im pretty new to this and i got a question to ask ?
[06:57] <martoya> arun: your plugged internet works probably in eth0 and the wifi in eth1, different interfaces, like windows
[06:57] <spookylukey> This is despite the fact that 'which' tells me it will execute my replacement!
[06:57] <pag> !ask | neusonce
[06:57] <ubotu> neusonce: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:57] <arun> ok, so if i enable wireless, and do a  click on 'show networks', it'll show me which wireless networks are available?
[06:57] <pag> allright... ubotu's slow tonight
[06:57] <stdin> spookylukey: so your path is like /home/me/bin:$PATH ?
[06:58] <spookylukey> yep
[06:58] <arun> martoya: ah alright, that's what i wanted to know
[06:58] <arun> so my eth0 settings won't affect my eth1 device right?
[06:58] <arun> am i making sense here? :)
[06:58] <martoya> arun: right
[06:58] <spookylukey> Is there a pastebin somewhere?
[06:58] <arun> martoya: thanks
[06:59] <pag> !paste | spookylukey
[06:59] <ubotu> spookylukey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:59] <stdin> spookylukey: what shows when you do "which command" (where "command" is a command in your bin and the system bin)?
[06:59] <neusonce> mmkay, well i did a new install of of ubuntu  and   everythign was ok untill i tryed to log in  it refused access and cuase im such a noob i reinstalled ubuntu again thinkin it may hav been a software glitch   but same probelm untill i changed the session type in the options button
[06:59] <arun> thanks martoya, stdin, evjunior09
[06:59] <neusonce>  but now im left with 2 installs of ubuntu and its taking up to much space  and i cant get rid of the second copy
[06:59] <evilmm> anyone know how to do read-recipts in kmail?
[07:00] <neusonce>  i need to get rid of one
[07:00] <spookylukey> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30457/
[07:00] <arun> just to recap: i enable wireless in knetworkmanager, and then go to options > show networks, and it'll show me a list of available wifi networks, and i just pick one?
[07:01] <evjunior09> arun: no problem, but i think the other 2 were smarter when it comes to wireless =P
[07:01] <neusonce>  with out  doing a windows reinstall that will wipe both partitions
[07:01] <stdin> spookylukey: ahh, well in the case of "ls" it's not actually /bin/ls that's being executed, it's bash's builtin version
[07:02] <spookylukey> OK, but it works with other things too, which are definitely not builtins
[07:02] <arun> evjunior09: is my 'recap' correct? ^
[07:02] <spookylukey> OK, no I'm wrong
[07:03] <evjunior09> arun: yep as far as i know
[07:03] <evjunior09> Thats exactly what i would do
[07:04] <arun> thank you so much
[07:04] <spookylukey> but I'm sure it was a second ago! argh! My computer just wants to make me look like an idiot by behaving properly as soon as I log on to IRC :-)
[07:05] <stdin> spookylukey: heh, mine does that sometimes too :p
[07:05] <arun> would you guys recommend Dell vostro, latitude or precision notebooks?
[07:06] <spookylukey> stdin:  Actually, it's still doing it - but only in one shell that I have open!  I'm typing the exact same commands into two windows, and one of them is calling a different executable
[07:06] <mimik> how do i change, say, a desktop icon of firefox?
[07:07] <stdin> mimik: right click it, go to properties and click the icon to change it
[07:07] <mimik> heh. that simple eh. --bangs head on wall-- thanks
[07:07] <stdin> spookylukey: 1st check the path in both, if they are the same it could be that bash has "hashed" the command (it's like it's in a cache)
[07:08] <evilmm> anyone know how to request a read receipt in kmail?
[07:09] <spookylukey> Yep, same path, it must be your explanation.  I guess that is a sensible thing for bash to do in the vast majority of cases, I just spent 15 minutes tripping up over the exception :-)
[07:10] <arun> i've heard that broadcom network cards are bad for wifi?
[07:11] <stdin> yeah, they are difficult to get working. and my not work at all sometimes
[07:13] <arun> intel wireless cards are good?
[07:13] <stdin> yep, open source driver
[07:15] <arun> great, so i'll probably get a dell latitude
[07:15] <arun> nvidia quadro cards are supported, right?
[07:16] <arun> sorry if i'm asking too many questions :)
[07:16] <evjunior09> I need help with Amarok and my iPor
[07:16] <evjunior09> *iPod
[07:16] <stdin> there is an open source driver, but to get hardware rendering (3D), you'll need to install the binary driver (from the package repositories)
[07:17] <arun> yeah, nvidia-glx?
[07:17] <arun> evjunior09: what's up
[07:17] <stdin> arun: yeah
[07:17] <buz> is there a tentative date for gutsy beta?
[07:17] <arun> stdin: thanks
[07:18] <evjunior09> arun: Amarok isnt detecting my iPod
[07:18] <stdin> buz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[07:18] <pag> !gutsy | buz
[07:18] <ubotu> buz: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[07:18] <surgy> can someone tell me the name of a good program to tell me my disk space used VS. my Free disk space on a particular hdd?
[07:18] <evjunior09> but it is connected
[07:18] <buz> thx!
[07:18] <surgy> !gutsy
[07:18] <stdin> surgy: I just use the command "df -h"
[07:19] <surgy> stdin: can you give me an example?
[07:19] <buz> mhh only more tribe releases, no more beta/rc stuff?
[07:19] <pag> surgy, df -h /dev/hda
[07:19] <stdin> surgy: that is the example
[07:19] <pag> or lets make that hda1  :)
[07:20] <stdin> surgy: the command "df -h" will show the info for all partitions. or you can add the device to the end of ot
[07:20] <pag> buz, beta is due to release 27.9
[07:20] <arun> evjunior09: go to settings > configure amarok > media devices?
[07:20] <buz> oh right there's brown on red text ;)
[07:20] <arun> not there?
[07:21] <dr_willis> df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[07:21] <dr_willis> is my fave df command. :)
[07:21] <dr_willis> make an alias for it.
[07:22] <pag> dr_willis, wow! thaks for that :D
[07:22] <dr_willis> It pays to read the man pages. heh heh
[07:22] <dr_willis> took me 20 min to figure out that command.
[07:23] <dr_willis> i was using grep and shell scripting.. then discovered it had the feature allready
[07:24] <vit___> hola  comunidad jeje
[07:25] <arun> evjunior09: did it work
[07:25] <vit___> alguien habla espaol
[07:26] <martoya> vit___: #kubuntu-es for spanish users
[07:26] <stdin> !es
[07:26] <arun> anyone here like russell peters?
[07:26] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:26] <vit___> thans
[07:27] <martoya> arun: the comedian?
[07:28] <arun> martoya: yes
[07:32] <arun> see you guys later
[08:01] <mefisto__> everyone has solved their problems
[08:05] <genii> mefisto__: We can only hope :)
[08:05] <mefisto__> well I solved mine
[08:08] <dopez> im trying to figure out an easy way to make sound come out of my usb speakers by default when i plug them in, i already though about hotplug but it doesnt seem to be able to 'detect' when i unplug them
[08:08] <dopez> anyone an idea ?
[08:08] <vzduch> USB speakers.. *omfg*
[08:09] <vzduch> speakers belong plugged in the respective output of the soundcard, not in USB
[08:09] <dopez> sounds better than the internal speakers
[08:09] <dopez> why not ?
[08:10] <Ace2016> HI all
[08:11] <Ace2016> anyone know if using a 64bit kernel would give better performance with a 64bit athlon x2?
[08:11] <mefisto__> dopez: is this just speakers, or do they have an audio interface (soundcard) built into them?
[08:11] <dopez> mefisto__: i guess soundcard build in, sorta, it's hooked up to the usb port
[08:12] <dopez> (logitech v20)
[08:12] <Ace2016> do 64bit kernels take full advantage of all both cores?
[08:12] <stdin> Ace2016: not much, unless you do some heavy processing (live large A/V transcoding and mathematical calculations)
[08:12] <stdin> Ace2016: and _Any_ kernel will use both cores
[08:12] <mefisto__> dopez: might be worth searching to see if it's supported by linux drivers
[08:13] <mefisto__> dopez: have you got it to work at all?
[08:14] <dopez> mefisto__: actually they work just fine, but i want them to be the default output device after i plug them in, without having to tell my apps to use the second speakers set, and of course to change back to the laptop speakers once i unplug them
[08:14] <Ace2016> stdin: but does the software need anything special to run on both cores?
[08:14] <stdin> Ace2016: no
[08:14] <Ace2016> oh cool thanks i'll stick with this then
[08:14] <Al> I have a laptop running Kubuntu. How do I stop the off button turning the laptop off? Or, even, doing anything?
[08:15] <Al> I feel small because my Windows-using friend just showed me a "When I press my off button" option
[08:15] <Al> I have to get one up
[08:15] <vzduch> wtf?
[08:15] <dopez> but seems i asked without googling enough, i now find a few threads about this
[08:16] <mefisto__> dopez: I have 2 soundcards, but gave up long ago trying to use both, so I permanently disabled one.
[08:16] <s0nix> is it possible to mount 100gb of space (on 2 differents disk) in /home ??
[08:16] <dopez> mefisto__: i've used two soundscards for quite a while, one dedicted to a headset and teamspeak and others over my 5.1 set :)
[08:17] <vzduch> mefisto__: I have 2 soundcards running, no problem :)
[08:17] <dopez> (but on my desktop)
[08:17] <vzduch> 1 has my speakers on them, the other my headphones and my headset's mic
[08:18] <ryanakca> s0nix: yes
[08:18] <mefisto__> I'm not claiming it can't be done, I just gave up
[08:18] <s0nix> ryanakca: why the installer complain to correct it ?
[08:19] <Ace2016> Anyone here using Gutsy?
[08:19] <ryanakca> s0nix: well, what do you mean, mount disk1 to /home/1 and disk2 to /home/2 ?
[08:19] <ryanakca> Ace2016: yes
[08:19] <s0nix> no , at "/home"
[08:19] <ryanakca> s0nix: or store /home on two seperate disks?
[08:19] <vzduch> !gutsy | Ace2016
[08:19] <ubotu> Ace2016: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[08:19] <ryanakca> s0nix: ah, then in that case, if you need to use two disks for your /home, use LVM
[08:20] <ryanakca> !lvm | s0nix
[08:20] <ubotu> s0nix: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:20] <Ace2016> ryanakca: how stable is it? have any problems?
[08:20] <Ace2016> released just after my birthday :D
[08:20] <s0nix> thx
[08:21] <ryanakca> Ace2016: it's stable enough for me, but don't use it if you need a production machine or you don't know your way around the command line/can't fix things yourself.
[08:21] <Ace2016> not a production, a gaming machine for ut2004, can't wait for ut2007
[08:22] <ryanakca> Ace2016: ah, well, you can chance it, I find it stable for my uses, if you want to help out, test out the Tribe 3 CD
[08:23] <Al> I have a laptop running Kubuntu. How do I stop the off button turning the laptop off? Or, even, doing anything?
[08:23] <Azzco> Hi, is it possible to have the first user name with capital letters at all in ubuntu?
[08:23] <vzduch> Azzco: ?
[08:24] <Azzco> my user name on fedora is Azzco, I'm going to move back to kubuntu but I can only have the user name azzco...
[08:27] <manu_> hi
[08:28] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> manu_: hi
[08:28] <manu_> today i got new updates for edgy eft, nvida and a new kernel, 2.6.17-12-generic, since this updates x wont start
[08:28] <manu_> someone can help?
[08:28] <manu_> never had problems with nvidia new kernels and xorg
[08:28] <manu_> :(
[08:29] <manu_> when i come to login console and i run   startx i got something with nvidia couldnt be found in kernel or so
[08:30] <Doug1> hey, I installed java manually, but now i want thunderbird to open links in firefox as default, where would i go for that in the firefox files?
[08:31] <manu_> someone can help? :/
[08:34] <mefisto__> Doug1: in thunderbird preferences, attachments, view and edit actions. Then find HTML document in the list and set it to open in firefox
[08:34] <Doug1> mefisto__: thanks
[08:35] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> manu_: Have you tried using "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to set everything up again?
[08:37] <Doug1> mefisto__: nothing is in the list
[08:37] <mefisto__> Doug1: nothing at all?
[08:37] <Doug1> nope
[08:37] <khaije1> so how do i save a kde session from command line?
[08:39] <martoya> khaije1: dcop ksmserver default saveCurrentSession
[08:40] <mefisto__> Doug1: go to preferences>advanced. Is there a "config editor" button?
[08:41] <Doug1> mefisto__: nope there's General, Offline & Disk Space, Update
[08:41] <manu_> WhtWolfTeraDyne: no, but is this the solution? someone said something because of restricted modules
[08:41] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> manu_: What kernel are you booting with?
[08:45] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> manu_: YOu can find out by using "uname -a"
[08:46] <mefisto__> Doug1: you could try installing this extension for thunderbird, which will give you access to the about:config editor
[08:46] <mefisto__> Doug1: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/423
[08:46] <Doug1> mefisto__: thank you
[08:46] <gir2222> how do I retrieve a directory with cvs?
[08:46] <mefisto__> then come back and I'll tell you what to put in there
[08:47] <Doug1> ok
[08:48] <gir2222> what is the command line for downloading cvs directories?
[08:49] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !cvs
[08:49] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[08:49] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> well, I thought there might have been something there.
[08:49] <manu_> WhtWolfTeraDyne: 2.6.17-12-generic starts no X 2.6.17-11-generic runs perfectly
[08:50] <Doug1> mefisto__: i've got the about:config window open now, what next?
[08:50] <Ace2016> HI all
[08:51] <Ace2016> I managed to get windows xp to install, the problems seems to have gone away completely, even played need for speed for a bit
[08:51] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !find linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic edgy
[08:51] <mefisto__> Doug1: right-click and create a new string
[08:51] <ubotu> Found: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic
[08:51] <Doug1> ok
[08:51] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> manu_: Try this: "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic"
[08:51] <mefisto__> Doug1: the name should be: network.protocol-handler.app.http
[08:52] <mefisto__> Doug1: and value is: firefox
[08:52] <manu_> WhtWolfTeraDyne: you mean 12 instead of eleven, 12 is the newest kernel
[08:52] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> manu_:"sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-12-generic" * yeah.
[08:52] <Doug1> mefisto__: and it should work now? thanks
[08:52] <mefisto__> Doug1: and also, you might want to do the same again, for network.protocol-handler.app.https
[08:53] <Doug1> mefisto__: will do
[08:54] <mefisto__> Doug1: if it still doesn't work, try changing firefox to full path and name (I think that should be /usr/bin/firefox)
[08:54] <blackflag> HEllo all :)
[08:55] <blackflag> I have a problem with cupsys:
[08:55] <Doug1> mefisto__: thanks it worked right off the bat. this mini-code adventure with linux is quite cool lol
[08:55] <Doug1> /leave
[08:55] <blackflag> "/usr/sbin/cupsd: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[08:56] <blackflag> I tried aptitude install -f but this is not solving
[08:56] <blackflag> can someone help?
[08:56] <blackflag> and libssl is installed
[08:57] <gir2222> ok that didnt help. I have cvs, all I want to do is download a program's cvs source code on sourceforge. I know there is a command line for doing this, anyone knows it?
[08:57] <odla> blackflag: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libssl.so.&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386
[08:57] <manu_> WhtWolfTeraDyne: ok i'll try :)
[09:04] <devnull> How do you find out what /dev/ a device is assigned to?
[09:04] <freenet> moin
[09:04] <freenet> hi all
[09:05] <redha> hello I need help with 915resolution
[09:06] <blackflag> okay, installng this libssl again from that source above, but no change!
[09:09] <mefisto__> devnull: kinfocenter?
[09:09] <devnull> mefisto__: it doesnt show the device in a /dev/xxx fasion
[09:11] <mefisto__> devnull: it does where appropriate. look in partitions, for example
[09:13] <liquanyi> hello
[09:13] <odla> hi
[09:14] <liquanyi> my english is so poor................
[09:14] <devnull> mefisto__: not there.
[09:14] <odla> liquanyi: what your language?
[09:14] <liquanyi> chinexe..
[09:14] <odla> !chinese
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <mefisto__> devnull: what device are you looking for?
[09:14] <liquanyi> chionese
[09:14] <odla> !ch
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <liquanyi> chinese
[09:14] <odla> hrm..
[09:14] <liquanyi> ...
[09:14] <devnull> and for further reference that only lists entries in /etc/fstab
[09:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !hk
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <devnull> its a usb mp3 player
[09:15] <odla> !mandarian
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mandarian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <awebawefoij> Hi - Can someone please help me mounting my USB stick?
[09:15] <odla> liquanyi: do you have a question?
[09:15] <devnull> root@family-desktop:/media# lsusb
[09:15] <devnull> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0471:014d Philips
[09:15] <liquanyi> i can not input chinese
[09:16] <awebawefoij> If I fdisk it, I see it as sda1 but when I mount it I get "does not exist" and dmesg | tail gives SCSI error: return code = 0x10070000
[09:16] <liquanyi> i want to use kubuntu with chinese,but i do not know how cn i do
[09:17] <awebawefoij> I'm running Kubuntu 6.06 Kernal 2.6.15-28-386
[09:17] <liquanyi> i'mrunning 7.10
[09:18] <liquanyi> i use it in vmware
[09:18] <vzduch> liquanyi: Gutsy support in #ubuntu+1
[09:19] <rami> !java
[09:19] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:20] <awebawefoij> I've done quite a bit of googling, but no help - anyone here know?
[09:24] <rami> need a bit of help
[09:24] <rami> with java.
[09:24] <redha> awebawefoij: Doesn't the USB stick mount autmatically?
[09:24] <redha> Anybody could help me with 915resolution?
[09:24] <rami> i got a blue screen in the terminal with users license.
[09:24] <redha> rami: OK accept it
[09:25] <rami> how?
[09:25] <rami> i can't press it
[09:25] <redha> try pressing tab
[09:25] <devnull> !libmtp
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <devnull> !find libmtp
[09:25] <ubotu> Found: libmtp-dev, libmtp5
[09:25] <rami> ty.
[09:26] <devnull> Anyone know where a 0.1.5 libmtp package is?
[09:26] <redha> rami: anytime, we share the same name btw ;)
[09:26] <rami> :O:O
[09:27] <odla> liquanyi: http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/HOWTO:_Optimise_Ubuntu_for_Chinese_desktop
[09:27] <redha> 915resolution anybody??
[09:28] <jeff_UK_9876> Sorry - I got disconnected.  Problem with many USBsticks - can't access them. fdisk sees the FAT16 partition, but dmesg complains "Unable to read partition table" and says " SCSI error: return code = 0x10070000".  I'm running Kubuntu 6.06 with Kernal 2.6.15-28-386.  Google hasn't helped, anyone here help please?
[09:31] <redha> jeff_UK_9876: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=84947&sid=fedf3c527ed62513b2eebad94e33af33
[09:32] <redha> jeff_UK_9876: probably upgrading to fiesty would do the trick
[09:34] <benjamin_> hello there! i have in local network 2 PCs with kubuntu installed. which is the best way to remotely connect from one to the other?
[09:34] <t1n0m3n> hi, I am trying to play around with kismet, and my 3945 card keeps switching itself from monitor to managed, any idea where to look to stop this?
[09:35] <mefisto__> jeff_UK_9876: also, take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=504641
[09:35] <t1n0m3n> smb?  ftp? telnet? ssh?  depends on what you want to do
[09:36] <benjamin_> actually vnc or similar
[09:37] <benjamin_> i cannot find the way how to enable vnc server
[09:37] <t1n0m3n> cool, xdmcp?
[09:37] <t1n0m3n> err lemme check the spelling
[09:38] <t1n0m3n> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/index.html
[09:40] <jeff_UK_9876> Thanks for the tip redha, but that'll have to wait! I've read through the debian article, but doesn't say too much. pmount gives the same error message as mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 == "device sda1 does not exist".  mefisto - Thanks, I tried blkid but that's just hung up the shell & even kill -9 won't unwedge it!
[09:40] <t1n0m3n>  benjamin_: there may be a better way though, still looking
[09:40] <benjamin_> t1n0m3n: i'm new here, the last was too complex for me :-(
[09:46] <Eierkopp> moin
[09:48] <pulaski> hello
[09:51] <vzduch> impatient folks..
[09:52] <pulaski> Has anyone here who runs feisty fawn 7.04 experienced problems with sound apparently not running  upon startup.  ie no notification sounds?
[09:55] <vzduch> none here either, but it doesn't bug me :)
[09:55] <vzduch> this has nothing to do w/ sound running or not
[09:56] <vzduch> gotta be something else.. because I can fire up any player app as soon as I wish and I get sound
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago_> hey everyone, i'm looking for a way to transfer files to a computer I'm ssh'ed into. scp comes to mind, but is there a way to do scp with an ip address instead of a hostname
[09:57] <pulaski> Thank you for responding vzduch
[09:58] <pulaski> yes my mic seems to work but inline sound ie video thru the browser and of course notifications dont work
[09:58] <vzduch> no problem w/ sound from the browser here
[09:59] <t1n0m3n> Whoever had the VNC question, I think I have your answer
[09:59] <pulaski> I can restart the sound through system settings and restart and it will occasionally boot with notification sound and browser video sound but not consistently.
[10:00] <vzduch> I turned the KDE soundsystem off
[10:00] <pulaski> I appreciate that you are responding vzduch
[10:00] <vzduch> no need for it, the apps can communicate directly w/ ALSA
[10:01] <vzduch> my opinion, of course.. you might have other priorities then low reaction times :)
[10:01] <hero> Admiral_Chicago_: uh, just replace the hostname with the ip address. if you're using windows to connect to an ssh server there is a free scp program called winscp3
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago_> hero: i figured it out. it was user@ip:/dir
[10:02] <pulaski> I see I was a little confused about the difference bet KDE soundsystem and alsa-utils in init.d
[10:02] <hero> Admiral_Chicago_: k. check out that program. i use it all the time
[10:02] <t1n0m3n> anyone know how to keep a wireless nic in monitor mode?  I switch mine to monitor and it switches back to managed after a minute
[10:02] <hero> better than cli
[10:04] <pulaski> anyway vzduch, I have to split now,  I'll come back here again sooner or later in search of solutions.  I want to reiterate my appreciation for your responses today.  Often no one here says much of anything.
[10:04] <pulaski> cya
[10:06] <t1n0m3n> anyone know how to keep a wireless nic in monitor mode?  I am using ipw3945, I set monitor mode with "iwconfig eth1 mode monitor"  it shows monitor mode with "iwconfig" I run kismet and after about a minute it stops working.  I do a "iwconfig" again and it has changed back to managed...  any ideas on what to look for?
[10:07] <t1n0m3n> I can get kismet to work constantly if I do a "iwconfig eth1 mode monitor" every 30 seconds or so
[10:17] <manu_> i have a wacom graphire tablet and plugged it in, i can use it as mouse but the config dialouges in krita/gimp/inkscpae dont show a new tablet to configure
[10:18] <pulaski> hello vzduch?
[10:18] <pulaski> thanks for the tip about kde sound sytem
[10:19] <vzduch> you're welcome :)
[10:19] <pulaski> In the System Settings screen I mistakenly had sound enabled.  I foolishly thought that unless sound was enabled I wouldn't be able to have sound.
[10:20] <pulaski> my notifications from the system settings screen work fine even though sound is not enabled.
[10:20] <pulaski> go figure?
[10:21] <pulaski> thanks again vzduch, perhaps I'll see you around
[10:23] <danya__> hello ?
[10:24] <danya__> when I get this error ( that a pckage has no installation candidate ) what should I do ??
[10:24] <cybrhuman> do someone know how I reenable the default graphics drivers in Feisty?
[10:25] <odla> sweet kickoff should be available officially for kubuntu in gutsy
[10:26] <danya__> anyone
[10:27] <odla> danya__: what are you trying to install?
[10:27] <danya__> wine
[10:27] <odla> !wine
[10:27] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:27] <danya__> I did that
[10:27] <odla> !info wine
[10:27] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[10:27] <danya__> the steps for a 64-bit
[10:27] <odla> danya__: oh ... i don't know about 64-bit but do you have universe enabled?
[10:28] <danya__> yes It's enabled
[10:28] <odla> danya__ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64
[10:28] <odla> ?
[10:28] <danya__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64
[10:28] <odla> :)
[10:28] <danya__> lol
[10:28] <odla> danya__: so do you do as it says?
[10:28] <danya__> and I still get the error no installation candidate :( ..
[10:28] <danya__> I so hate 64-bit :(
[10:29] <odla> danya__: pastebin (at pastebin.ca) your sources.lst file in /etc/apt/
[10:29] <danya__> odla : I was about to check it now to make sure the repos have been addded :)
[10:29] <odla> danya__: feisty?
[10:29] <odla> danya__: also have you run sudo apt-get update?
[10:29] <danya__> odla : yes
[10:30] <danya__> odla : yes
[10:30] <odla> danya__: wget -c http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/feisty/wine_0.9.41~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1_amd64.deb
[10:30] <odla> danya__: then sudo dpkg -i wine*
[10:31] <danya__> odla : thanks :D .. I checked the source list and the repos were'nnt there :)
[10:31] <odla> danya__: there you go :)  ... also you could d/l it from the link i pasted too
[10:34] <Gumbler> :)
[10:34] <|slim|> jemand da?
[10:35] <vzduch> |slim|: ja, aber auf Englisch
[10:35] <cybrhuman> HI, I installed a new graphics driver on my feisty installation. When I rebooted the screen went blank after showing the ubuntu loading screen. I think I screwed up something when I installed the new graphics driver so I hope there was some easy way to reenable the old (default) driver
[10:40] <vzduch> cybrhuman: what driver did you install?
[10:40] <kaslepro> what do i instal to get kde on ubuntu?
[10:41] <jrc> kaslepro: I think it's sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:42] <ardchoille> How do I get apps to have their windows open in the exact same place everytime they're launche?
[10:44] <Admiral_Chicago> kaslepro: install kubuntu-desktop
[10:45] <kaslepro> Admiral_Chicago: thanks!
[10:49] <mimik> don't suppose any of you know how to associate torrent files with ktorrent?
[10:51] <jrc> mimik: does opening the "Open With" dialog box on a .torrent file and enabling "Remember application association for this type of file" work?
[10:51] <mimik> lemme check
[10:51] <ardchoille> jrc: It should, that should modify the file association
[10:52] <ardchoille> mimik: Or you could go into the file associations dialog and modify it there
[10:53] <mimik> how do you open the file associations dialog?
[10:53] <ardchoille> kcontrol KDE Components > File Associations
[10:53] <tfreire> mimik: konqueror
[10:54] <tfreire> mimik: configurations > configure konqueror
[10:54] <tfreire> mimik: both ways point to the same place
[10:54] <abhorred> Hey all, where is the option to change Screen Resolutions in KDE?
[10:54] <mimik> thanks
[10:55] <tfreire> abhorred on kubuntu: K menu > System Settings > Monitor & Video
[10:56] <tfreire> But if your video card / monitor is not properly configured you will not see all resolutions your monitor can do
[10:56] <abhorred> I got that fixed in the Xorg config, I just can't find KDE's option to change it :P
[10:56] <tfreire> In my case I had to manually configure, but I have a widescreen notebook (1680 x 1050)
[10:58] <tfreire> abhorred: I also resorted to fglrx drivers, so I had to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to rebuild my xorg.conf to make it work.
[10:58] <abhorred> I have 4 options, Settings/System/Utilities and another Settings
[10:58] <abhorred> :\
[10:58] <tfreire> abhorred: you are on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:58] <abhorred> Ubuntu with KDE
[10:58] <abhorred> lol, they told me to come in here
[11:00] <tfreire> you are on KDE?
[11:00] <abhorred> Yeah
[11:00] <abhorred> I installed Ubuntu, just fine, then KDE on it
[11:00] <abhorred> So I have Gnome/KDE
[11:01] <tfreire> My K > System Settings has 4 main sections with a few icons each
[11:01] <tfreire> Personal | Appearance | Computer administration | Network & Connectiviy
[11:02] <tfreire> Under Computer Admin I have an icon that says 'monitor & video'
[11:02] <tfreire> that's where you should be able to change your monitor settings
[11:05] <azzco> I've got a slight problem booting into kubuntu...
[11:06] <abhorred> Hmm
[11:06] <abhorred> I might just switch back to Gnome :(
[11:07] <abhorred> Bah, I aint doing that, time to remove 1024x768 from the xorg
[11:07] <tfreire> abhorred: my system is the other way round, I have kubuntu with ububtu-desktop also installed
[11:07] <tfreire> unfortunately i was not able to get compiz to work
[11:08] <tfreire> I got as far as running Xgl on my ATI x1600, but compiz is dying on a Glib error
[11:09] <abhorred> I like Ubuntu alot, I just wish they wouldn't make it quite so...."Easy"
[11:09] <mimik> where can i find the ktorrent executable for a default install?
[11:09] <tfreire> mimik: bash: locate ktorrent
[11:10] <tfreire> or locate ktorrent |grep bin
[11:10] <azzco> I need some help with grub. chainloader +1, does that mean that it would be like booting with only one partition?
[11:10] <mimik> yep found it thanks
[11:12] <abhorred> Thanks for your time tfreire :)
[11:12] <abhorred> I'll see what I can't figure out
[11:12] <abhorred> Now tell me, Kubuntu or Ubuntu, which do you like more?
[11:13] <azzco> I prefer KDE before gnome ;)
[11:13] <abhorred> It's got a certain amount of speed that Gnome doesn't seem to touch
[11:13] <abhorred> And it can be prettier :P
[11:14] <tfreire> Yeah, I am a KDE guy too. I just install every now and then to only go back to KDE as fast as possible
[11:14] <tfreire> (intall gnome)
[11:14] <vzduch> hehe
[11:15] <abhorred> "su gedit /ect/X11/xorg.config"
[11:15] <tfreire> So Kubuntu is my option
[11:15] <abhorred> I noticed Konsole didn't like that command
[11:15] <azzco> I've only tried gnome seriusly twice. both times it felt like someone had riped my wings
[11:15] <SlimeyPete> abhorred: sudo
[11:15] <SlimeyPete> not su
[11:15] <tfreire> gedit is gnome editor
[11:15] <tfreire> on kde you should use sudo kate /foo/bar
[11:15] <abhorred> It matters?
[11:15] <SlimeyPete> yeah, and that. you might not have gedit installed
[11:16] <SlimeyPete> yes, it matters
[11:16] <abhorred> lol, I have it running right now :P
[11:16] <tfreire> or sudo vim /foo/bar, which is my preferred option
[11:16] <vzduch> abhorred: it's xorg.conf, not xorg.config
[11:16] <pablo_> hola a todos
[11:17] <abhorred> Woah, what is "kate"
[11:17] <SlimeyPete> it's an editor.
[11:17] <tfreire> abhorred: did your 'sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop' finish without problems?
[11:17] <vzduch> the (K)DE (A)dvanced (T)ext (E)ditor
[11:17] <abhorred> It just spit about 3,000 lines in the console
[11:17] <abhorred> Yes
[11:17] <tfreire> you can issue 'sudo apt-get -f install' just to be sure
[11:18] <abhorred> I know it installed clean man
[11:20] <abhorred> What is wrong with running gedit in KDE?
[11:20] <vzduch> tfreire: and no, you should _not_ use 'sudo kate', but 'kdesu kate'
[11:20] <abhorred> Or Gnome apps in general?
[11:21] <tfreire> isn't kdesu just a frontend to sudo?
[11:22] <tfreire> kde-gui firndly frontend
[11:22] <SlimeyPete> abhorred: nothing wrong with it but unless you migrated from Ubuntu they won't be installed yet
[11:22] <vzduch> kdesu gives you permissions in X while sudo does not
[11:22] <tfreire> cause sudo works for me. the difference is that I get to type on konsole instead of a window
[11:23] <tfreire> oh, I see
[11:23] <vzduch> I've been told that using sudo for X applications can break permission settings
 I installed Ubuntu, just fine, then KDE on it
 So I have Gnome/KDE
[11:24] <K-Ryan> vzduch: It can
[11:24] <SlimeyPete> abhorred: ah, right
[11:24] <danya__> how can I add wine to the source list if It's not a deb ?? ..
[11:24] <abhorred> brb if I am still invited guys
[11:24] <vzduch> danya__: you can only install .debs w/ dpkg/apt
[11:25] <vzduch> danya__: and there's a separate Wine source for current versions
[11:25] <danya__> vzduch : so I'll find the wine packages in there ?
[11:26] <ADiCT3D> Has anyone sucessfully compiled cedega?
[11:26] <K-Ryan> Probably
[11:27] <vzduch> omg, this nick.. *eyeCancer*
[11:27] <abhorred> Omg, I can read stuff again
[11:27] <abhorred> :)
[11:28] <animimotus> hi
[11:29] <animimotus> someone use Kbabel ?
[11:30] <tfreire> My only problem is not being able to run compiz-fusion. Tha is a great letdown...
[11:30] <glauco1> hi
[11:30] <glauco1> how i can delete a programm?
[11:31] <glauco1> i want uninstall java5
[11:31] <glauco1> but if i make apt.get remove java5
[11:31] <glauco1> tell me that java5 doesnt exist
[11:31] <vzduch> sudo aptitude remove <package name> (w/o the <> of course; if you want to remove configuration files as well, replace 'remove' with 'purge')
[11:31] <vzduch> glauco1: of course not
[11:32] <tfreire> glauco: be sure of the package name you want to uninstall
[11:32] <glauco1> mmm
[11:32] <glauco1> ok
[11:32] <vzduch> if you don't know the exact name, try an 'apt-cache search java5' beforehand
[11:32] <tfreire> you might mean java-sun-jdk or something like that
[11:32] <glauco1> ok
[11:32] <vzduch> tfreire: probably 'sun-java5-jre'
[11:32] <glauco1> ok i try it now
[11:33] <tfreire> vzduch: yeah
[11:34] <glauco1> ok i've found it
[11:34] <glauco1> tank you!!!!
[11:34] <tfreire> Well, Ubuntu is teh distro which took me less time from installation to making it useable. It almost worked 100% out of the box
[11:34] <vzduch> tfreire: less time compared w/ what?
[11:34] <tfreire> with everything I ever tried
[11:35] <abhorred> Not just less time, alot less headaches
[11:35] <tfreire> red hat, suse, mandriva, and... gentoo :)
[11:35] <tfreire> I still use Gentoo
[11:35] <tfreire> on our company server
[11:35] <abhorred> I was gonna try a diffrent one, Knoppix I think it was
[11:35] <tfreire> but I installed Ubuntu on my notebook to give it a go , more in-depth
[11:36] <abhorred> I think I am falling love with Debian based distro's
[11:36] <vzduch> for Mandriva I can't tell.. last time I wanted to install it (2007.1), the media wouldn't boot; looked like there was no bootsector on the DVD
[11:36] <vzduch> before that I have previously used Mandrake 9.1, 10.0 and 10.1
[11:36] <tfreire> I have been o Gentoo for a loong time though, the other distros might have improved
[11:37] <vzduch> I was a die-hard SUSE user for 1.5 years.. until a hdd failure forced me to reinstall, then I tried other things.. and, running out of options I came across Kubuntu & I love it now :)
[11:38] <tfreire> one thing that finally prompted me to try ubuntu was all the eye-candy compiz provides. unfortunately, it's the only thing I didn't manage to make work
[11:38] <vzduch> probably never would've tried it if Fedora 7 had worked to my liking
[11:39] <vzduch> or if PCLinuxOS had a bigger choice of pkgs
[11:39] <tfreire> but the experience is being smooth
[11:39] <tfreire> AND... I am on gutsy
[11:39] <K-Ryan> Why so early?
[11:39] <tfreire> things are not exploding in my face... it's pretty stable
[11:40] <tfreire> Just because I was trying to get all the eye-candy of the world, I was testing after all.
[11:40] <tfreire> Since I had trouble with feisty, I said 'what the hell, I have no meaningful data here anywawy'
[11:41] <tfreire> gutsy is supposed to use compiz-fusion right off the bat, whereas feisty has both compiz and beryl
[11:41] <tfreire> so I decidedto give fusion a go
[11:42] <tfreire> The only crashes I have had are comppiz-related, which is admittedly beta software
[11:43] <tfreire> otherwise it gave me no problems at all
[11:45] <underdog5004> how can I make dolphin my default file-browser?
[11:46] <stoned> hi guys
[11:46] <underdog5004> hey
[11:46] <stoned> I just downloaded the kubuntu 7.04 amd64 ISO
[11:46] <underdog5004> how do you like it?
[11:46] <stoned> are there any easy reliable working guides on getting java+flash on it?
[11:46] <stoned> underdog5004: I'm still at work, I'll go home and install it
[11:46] <stoned> The only partition i have is where my kubuntu 32bi is installed
[11:47] <stoned> so I can't really do a 32bit chroot
[11:47] <stoned> I'll have to format and install amd64 on that partition
[11:47] <underdog5004> stoned, ah, ok. If it was me, I'd just use the 32-bit version...there's no reason to use 64-bit unless you've got over 3 gigs of RAM...
[11:47] <stoned> i'll have to use nspluginwrapper, but I know how to install it in debian.  Does kubuntu have any guides on how to do this?
[11:47] <underdog5004> imho
[11:47] <stoned> underdog5004: well, I compile software
[11:47] <stoned> and lots of it
[11:47] <underdog5004> ah
[11:48] <stoned> I could use the wider memory spaces
[11:48] <stoned> I'm not looking for speed increae in the whole desktop
[11:48] <stoned> only in compiling software
[11:48] <stoned> please advise.
[11:49] <underdog5004> gotcha...if it was me, I'd have a 64-bit box (headless) just for compiling software, then scp it to the machine of my choice and install...
[11:49] <underdog5004> but I'm just a noob...
[11:51] <stoned> electricity in new york is 40% more expensive than the last p lace I lived in
[11:51] <stoned> and i make less money than before
[11:51] <stoned> i only have one machine running atm
[11:51] <stoned> :(
[11:52] <underdog5004> bummer
[11:52] <stoned> you ever watched the cartoon
[11:52] <stoned> underdog
[11:52] <stoned> dog superhero
[11:52] <stoned> The Underdog
[11:52] <stoned> :D
[11:54] <tfreire> is it possible to run wine (32 bit) on a 64-bit install?
[11:54] <tfreire> I have only managed skype. it's the only one I tried though...
[11:59] <underdog5004> stoned, sorry, I was afk...yeah, used to watch reruns on nick-at-nite
[11:59] <underdog5004> when I was a kid
[12:00] <odla> tfreire: you can install wine on 64 bit natively ...
[12:01] <underdog5004> how can I make dolphin my default file-browser?
[12:02] <Raystlin_FM> anyone running kde4?
[12:03] <underdog5004> Raystlin_FM, it's not due out (stably) for a few months now
[12:04] <tfreire> odla: wine is not available for me.
[12:04] <tfreire> at least not on gutsy
[12:04] <odla> tfreire: install the feisty package?
[12:04] <tfreire> Raystlin_FM: I Installed just the bas on gutsy. buggy as hell
[12:05] <underdog5004> tfreire, why are you using gutsy? It's still alpha!
[12:05] <Raystlin_FM> underdog5004, I know... i'm running gutsy and wanted to see the progress that has been made...
[12:05] <tfreire> kde4-base I mean
[12:05] <odla> underdog5004: why do you need to?  just run it
[12:05] <tfreire> underdog5004: It was for trying compiz. My install is freshh, I have no critical data
[12:05] <odla> underdog5004: i'm running gutsy cause it has bug fixes for my hardware ... thus muy importante for me
[12:05] <tfreire> compiz-fusion
[12:06] <underdog5004> odla, gotcha
[12:06] <tfreire> gutsy is alpha, but it does not mean it's unstable... unless you deviate from the more tested stuff
[12:06] <underdog5004> sorry for my outburst...I'm a little stressed right now
[12:06] <odla> underdog5004: otherwise ... not much point to run gusty ;)
[12:06] <tfreire> like trying kde4 and compiz...
[12:06] <underdog5004> exactly
[12:06] <vzduch> tfreire: there is a Linux pkg for Skype
[12:07] <tfreire> vzduch: I know, I installed using the forum instructions
[12:07] <tfreire> It works
[12:08] <vzduch> you could probably just use the .deb they provide.. meant for Debian but works flawlessly in Feisty
[12:12] <venik> has anyone used pidgin for file transfer?  It does not work for me
[12:13] <vzduch> w/ which protocol?
[12:13] <gabriel__> hi
[12:13] <venik> Yahoo, Aim, or Google talk
[12:13] <gabriel__> that good
[12:13] <gabriel__> i'm new in linux jeje
[12:13] <vzduch> ICQ file transfer is known to not work on Linux, MSN file transfer sometimes works, no idea what factors play a role there
[12:13] <underdog5004> gabriel__, no worries, we were all noobs at one time
[12:13] <vzduch> for Yahoo and GoogleTalk I can't say anything
[12:13] <gabriel__> yeah and this great
[12:14] <venik> OK-- for which protocol DOES it work?