[12:18] how can I add new test case or rename test cases on the iso testing tracker ? [12:22] mathiaz: you can't (yet) [12:22] stgraber: can you rename some of the test cases for me ? [12:22] yes [12:23] stgraber: for the ubuntu server cds, I'd like to rename 'LVM+LAMP' to 'LAMP' [12:23] ok [12:24] mathiaz: done [12:24] stgraber: excellent. Thank you. [12:24] np [12:25] an UI will be written but it'll most likely be for gutsy+1 and the QA Tracker as testcases for ISOs aren't supposed to change that often to be high priority [12:25] (I think that's the only thing you can't do with the current Admin UI) === ahuman [n=oem@ool-18b8b7f4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:43] pitti: How are Edubuntu and Xubuntu desktop going ? === cassidy_ [n=cassidy@212.2.21.2] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:44] stgraber: edubuntu lives should be up, xubuntu building ATM [12:45] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily-live/20070718.2/ [12:45] yep, there they go; I added them [12:46] We already have tested Ubuntu server for i386 and amd64, that's a good start, sparc users are a bit harder to find though :) [12:48] stgraber: I'll ask fabbione tomorrow [12:50] shiny! firefox is alive on current live CDs === pitti hugs bdmurray === pitti hugs asac as well [12:51] stgraber: can you add another test case to the ubuntu server cds ? [12:51] sure [12:51] stgraber: actually I have two : bind9 and lvm partioning [12:52] stgraber: they are all described in the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/InstallMethods [12:52] stgraber: under the server cds. [12:54] mathiaz: done [12:54] in my expert test installs I usually create a PV with one VG Ubuntu and LVs swap/root/home [12:54] stgraber: thank you. [12:54] mathiaz: I assume the automatic one doesn't create a separate home dir? [12:54] pitti: nope. [12:54] pitti: just root and swap. [12:54] mathiaz: that separate dir led me to bug 126776 [12:54] Launchpad bug 126776 in udev "/dev/disks/by-uuid not mounted in expert LVM install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126776 === crippler [n=pcnet@24-179-44-16.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:55] mathiaz: maybe you can have a look whether you have that dir in your server installs, just for confirming? [12:55] I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions? The volume is not set to zero. [12:55] pitti: I've also come across another bug 107205 [12:55] Launchpad bug 107205 in partman-auto-lvm "LVM install crashed - lvm metadata not removed when creating a new partition layout." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107205 [12:56] crippler: this is not a support channel. Please ask me in #ubuntu+1. [12:56] Ok. [12:56] pitti: btw, how did that bug get to your attention? through cd testing? [12:56] crippler: #ubuntu as it's Feisty [12:57] asac: yes, bdmurray mentioned it === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-39-54.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:57] asac: it wasn't on tribe2, I'm pretty sure [12:58] yes ... it wasn't [12:58] although, hmm [12:58] last upload was from June 8 [12:58] i find it pretty interesting that it didn't even come earlier [12:58] yeah, I wondered, too [12:59] when was tribe-2? [12:59] just from looking at the date it must have been earlier === Zefiris_ [n=ncd@bas3-london14-1096790727.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:59] June 28th [12:59] 3rd jul wsa last upload [01:00] pitti: /dev/disks/by-uuid is present on my server install. [01:00] mathiaz: ok; I'm currently running a similar install, will check again [01:00] -- Alexander Sack Fri, 8 Jun 2007 01:11:00 +0200 [01:01] asac: ^ maybe that's not correct then? [01:05] stgraber: I can only create one report for test cases. === etank [n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:06] stgraber: I have the following use case: lvm partitionning works on a fresh hardrive, but fails if there has already been an lvm installed. [01:06] stgraber: how should I report that ? === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:07] pitti: hmmm ... for tribe-2 i didn't want ubufox uploaded so i did the 25 Jun upload from a minibranch ... guess the missing date update slipped in when merging that back in right before the upload === phanatic [n=phanatic@212.2.21.2] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:10] mathiaz: we'd consider it as being a fail for that testcase or a pass with comment+bug attached, as the "lvm partitioning" test has failed [01:13] stgraber: ok. I've add a comment and link to the bug report in LP. But I'd still consider it as successfull test. [01:14] ok, btw is that LVM bug something new ? I may have had a similar problem with Feisty some weeks ago [01:14] democracy player changed name to Miro [01:14] www.getmiro.com [01:15] I didn't have much time to investigate so I simply created a new partition table and rebooted === Zefiris^ [n=ncd@bas3-london14-1096780690.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:16] stgraber: bug 107205 [01:16] Launchpad bug 107205 in partman-auto-lvm "LVM install crashed - lvm metadata not removed when creating a new partition layout." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107205 === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:19] stgraber: the installer doesn't support creating an lvm partition layout if there has already been an lvm partition layout on the disk. [01:20] stgraber: it fails saying that an vg with the same name already exists. [01:20] mathiaz: ok, that's easy to workaround that issue, just good to know that it's been reported, best would be to have a line in the Release notes === Zefiris^ is now known as cnz3 === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@145.Red-83-56-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Whelpo [n=daniel@c-24-8-54-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === wasabi [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blizzow [n=jburns@206.61.49.5] has joined #ubuntu-devel === siti [n=siti@clix-jaquesmartin-nz.cpe.clix.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blizzow [n=jburns@206.61.49.5] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@86.228.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === keyes [n=keyes@62.147.143.87] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:52] pitti: Looks like Xubuntu desktop images are on cdimage (20070719) [01:53] stgraber: right, they finished two minutes ago === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Exit,] [01:54] ok, seems my job for today is done [01:54] cu tomorrow morning! [01:55] good night [01:55] pitti: see ya === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mneptok [n=mneptok@canonical/support/mneptok] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508D8720.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cynics [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jetscreamer [n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:56] Wow. [02:56] Qt applications can't be GPL 3 [02:56] tragedy. [02:56] mjg59: is qt only gpl2? [02:57] Yes [02:58] That was nice of Trolltech. [03:01] Another reason to back GTK+. [03:05] Also, libsmbclient is now LGPL 3 [03:06] So libsmbclient can't be used in KDE now === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:15] mjg59: it can until they release 3.2.0, surely [03:17] ajmitch: Yeah, but that's probably not going to be too long === sharms_ [n=sharms@EV-ESR1-72-49-113-236.fuse.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:18] how is GPL 2 incompatible with LGPL 3? [03:19] GPL is incompatible with all LGPL versions [03:19] LGPL has restrictions that aren't present in GPL [03:19] The only way you can link against LGPL code is because all LGPL code can be relicensed to GPL [03:20] But LGPL 3 can only be relicensed to GPL 3+ [03:20] Which is incompatible with GPL 2 [03:20] (And therefore anything using Qt) [03:20] ah right [03:21] a nice mess === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === EliasAmaral [n=dark@unaffiliated/EliasAmaral] has joined #ubuntu-devel === anculz [i=sponsz@mic92-6-82-227-94-181.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:31] http://rectum.antiville.fr/ [03:31] http://rectum.antiville.fr/ === anculz [i=sponsz@mic92-6-82-227-94-181.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [03:39] !ops [03:39] Help! bhale, infinity, Hobbsee, jdub, thom, fooishbar, fabbione, mdz, lamont, or Keybuk === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lmveloso [n=lmveloso@200-193-152-9.mganm702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:48] superm1: boy you're fast on the trigger :D [03:48] jdong, I wasn't here when it was posted, but saw that no one called ops on it, so i figured a ban should still be in place [03:48] if anything [03:49] superm1: lol he quit at :34 though ;-) [03:49] he was still on IRC [03:49] superm1: I thought you called it because there weren't enough ops listed for -motu. :p [03:49] just not this channel [03:49] superm1: you need to go to #-ops and grab an alpha male to deal with him then :D [03:49] or alpha female [03:49] haha [03:49] Hobbsee is almost never on at this time of day. === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@ubuntu/member/admiral-chicago] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong steps on #-ops to find an alpha male [03:52] this is just for you, superm1 :) [03:52] haha thanks jdong, your a pal :) === mode/#ubuntu-devel [+o mneptok] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-devel [+b *!*@mic92-6-82-227-94-181.fbx.proxad.net] by mneptok === mode/#ubuntu-devel [-o mneptok] by mneptok [04:05] mneptok: You should see about getting your nick added to the ops call for ubotu. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:07] TheMuso: aye. i'll add it to my Tolstoy-esque TODO list [04:08] mneptok: don't you just do an !ops-#ubuntu-devel is Help! A B C D E F G mneptok? [04:08] jdong: dunno. my Supybot syntax gets mixed in my head with infobot syntax [04:09] lol I don't know either :) [04:09] I think that's how you put it in.... [04:09] !twss [04:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about twss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:09] lol it's taken off this channel [04:09] !twss-#ubuntuforums [04:09] That's what she said! === micah_c [n=micah@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.4.78.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === micahcowan [n=micah@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A71EE3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:49] problem: I'm trying to edit the xubuntu.org page to add a mirror but my permissions keep getting denied (I am signed in as an admin though) [04:49] is there a way to get someone to fix this, perhaps this isn't the proper channel === haggai [n=halls@credativ.bcnadsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:02] Admiral_Chicago: Maybe in #canonical-sysadmin? === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:06] ScottK: already /msg'ed him :) [05:06] OK. === cocomiel [n=cocomiel@host213.190-30-86.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:08] mr mneptok! === sid [n=unstable@tor/regular/sid] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:08] hi [05:09] hey [05:09] I am starting to programming in C and I need a reference [05:10] cocomiel: RFC? [05:10] like a library ref of the standards functions in C [05:11] cocomiel: /join ##c [05:14] ok [05:19] Anyone here involved with the freesoftwarelaptop or talks to sabdfl, I have some important information about the laptop I wanted to share. === cr3 [n=marc@bas5-montreal02-1167961527.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:34] sid, have you added the information to ? === jfalconer [n=jfalcone@203-219-234-92-syd-ts25-2600.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:36] ScottK: thanks. [05:37] No problem. Odds are they are all/most sleeping, but maybe you'll get lucky. [05:39] mpt: yea [05:39] There is no way to use Intel graphics in a free/libre laptop. It's just technically impossible. [05:40] I don't really understand the point of that page, though, to be honest [05:40] mpt: same [05:40] technically impossible right now at least, years from now who knows. [05:40] "It's not enough to have a Free-Software-only laptop, let's restrict the specs still further!" [05:41] but anyway [05:41] mpt: Well check markshuttleworth.com [05:41] sid: Are graphics on intel laptops a lot different than desktops? === jfalconer [n=jfalcone@203-219-234-92-syd-ts25-2600.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:41] He believes it will have a ripple effect through the hardware industry. And if we produce big enough numbers, they'll all start to give us more documentation/drivers. [05:41] ScottK: not really [05:42] The Intel graphics are in the northbridge. So if you have intel graphics, you _must_ have intel motherboard/cpu. [05:42] Then I guess I'm confused as I've used free drivers for intel integrated graphics on my desktops for a long time now. [05:42] Intel does not make stand-alone graphics card. [05:42] Yes. [05:42] ScottK: but not free/libre bios [05:42] Ah. [05:42] Intel is very unhelpful with the linuxbios project. Intel will not work with linuxbios. [05:43] I see. [05:43] Generally, they seem to work well with the community. I wonder why that is then? [05:43] AMD is very helpful with linuxbios(they're an underdog in the market). XO(OLPC) uses AMD. and lots of AMD 64bit motherboard/cpus work with linuxbios [05:43] Hi everyone. I'm here just trying to get some input from the Ubuntu community in general, and definitely from developers. Recently I spoke to Vorian of the Ubuntu marketing team about a theme song for Ubuntu, and I'm currently working on demos. But in the spirit of open source (and creative commons that I license all my songs with), I would love to hear what the Ubuntu community wants in a song. [05:43] But there is no way to have AMD + Intel graphics. sadly. [05:43] Right. [05:44] ScottK: I think they want to promote their proprietary EFI bios. They brag to media companies the DRM capabilities it can have. [05:44] Anyway, there are some tunes at http://www.midnighthaulkerton.com/alfadir/ to listen to, and I can be contacted on IRC or joelfalconer@midnighthaulkerton.com . Really looking forward to benefiting the project however I can [05:44] So maybe now that AMD owns a graphics card company, it'll all come together. [05:44] ScottK: I think underdogs help us. Intel helps us with graphics and wireless because they're underdogs. [05:44] sid, my point is, if a completely-Free-Software laptop was announced that used oh, I dunno, Transmeta chips for everything, or chips from some Chinese company that we'd never heard of before, I doubt anyone would be saying "Sorry, that's no good, it doesn't match the specs defined on the FreeSoftwareLaptop wiki page" [05:44] But Intel dominates in mobo/cpu, so they don't help us. [05:44] Makes sense. [05:44] RALInk and Realtek are big underdogs, and help a ton with wireless docs(as Theo from OBSD). But Broadcom dominates and doesn't help us at all. [05:45] Just like ATI/Nvidia dominate so they don't help us. [05:45] I guess one can argue about where Free has to start. [05:45] we generally only get help from underdogs. Underdogs need to go after the niche markets [05:46] Right. [05:46] mpt: I think the idea is just to get people involved and excited. [05:46] throw out ideas [05:46] Eventually we son't be just a niche market. [05:47] Sure, but don't oversell. [05:47] right, but until than. We need to support who helps us. [05:47] Agreed. [05:47] If Intel made standalone graphics, this would solve everything. [05:47] Generally Intel falls into that catagory. [05:47] We could use Turion(AMD64) mobo/cpu, and Intel graphics. [05:47] Yeah, but where's their motivation for that? [05:47] They know that, of course. [05:48] AMD uses HyperTransport, so we would use some AMD chip to translate from PCI-E to HyperTransport [05:48] jfalconer, an Ubuntu song (or several) would be excellent, but please don't expect to get useful musical feedback from computer programmers ;-) [05:48] Some of us are musicians, but (probably) no more than in the general population [05:48] LOL. [05:48] I know [05:49] I'm not looking so much for technical feedback [05:49] But you know, stuff based on personal tastes. [05:49] Also, since most of the core-devs are in Europe this is not a good time to be asking. [05:49] The offer is there if anyone wants to take it up :) [05:49] Additionally, Tribe 3 is sched for release tomorrow and so they'll be busy. [05:49] String quartet! [05:50] :) i can certainly do that === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:57] morning all, has the sky fallen in yet? [06:00] Hobbsee: I don't think so, no :) [06:01] RAOF: oh good [06:02] I learned that I don't know how to install Ubuntu from a usb stick, though [06:02] hello Hobbsee [06:02] hi ajmitch [06:03] ogra: please find people to test your edubuntu cds again [06:03] o yea, and linuxbios != openbios [06:04] linuxbios is the framework/bios, openbios is the payload === jfalconer [n=jfalcone@203-219-234-92-syd-ts25-2600.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === keyes [n=keyes@easyubuntu/keyes] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ijuz_ [n=ijuz@p54ABDAAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@86.228.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:45] jml: ping [06:46] jml: actually, ping in -motu [06:46] Hobbsee: do we have final images for testing yet? [06:46] fabbione: yes. https://isotesting.stgraber.org/isotesting/build/All [06:46] Hobbsee: ok thanks [06:47] fabbione: those should be the finals, but i think i've been thinkingthat for the past 2 or three respins, so... [06:47] fabbione: assuming no OMGTSIF bugs. [06:47] eheh yeah i know the feeling.. don't worry :) [06:47] : [06:47] :) it's fun though [06:47] the final final final final images(tm) [06:48] Treenaks: that's the one. [06:48] fabbione: planned release time, assuming no OMGTSIF in today's testing, will be in around....8 hours, give or take. [06:48] Hobbsee: it's all good... thanks [06:48] because i forgot, and accepted work [06:48] (oops) [06:49] eheh === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh [07:22] Launchpad is going down in 15 mins for a code update. Estimated downtime is approx 45mins. === fabbione grrrrs at isotracker for forgetting his username and password === keyes [n=keyes@easyubuntu/keyes] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:24] stgraber: ping? [07:25] just register again? [07:25] You can request a new password. === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:25] Drupal lets you do that. [07:25] i have an account, username and password are ok [07:25] i push Login and it doesn't error [07:25] but i can't edit the tests [07:25] edit tests? could you anyway? [07:25] i mean submit results [07:26] ah right === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:31] restart FF FTW === cynics [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sid [n=unstable@tor/regular/sid] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === dholbach [n=daniel@pD9E26237.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:38] good morning === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-0-225.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === CarlF1 [n=carl@adsl-75-57-170-225.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-00e39d6dde5c019d] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:13] evand: good work on the desktop packages - I just uploaded a few [08:15] thanks dholbach! [08:15] evand: thank YOU! :) [08:17] yay, evand! === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:18] hmmm udev starts to be too slow with more than 35 disks [08:18] \o/ === fabbione wonders if i can exploit it to timeout looking for root by adding another 20/30 disks === StevenK starts calling fabbione SGI [08:19] StevenK: what for? [08:19] never heard of loopbacks? [08:19] Aren't they the ones who pop up on the LKML every so often saying, "Whoa! All this stuff is broken for 4096-processor machines!" [08:20] yeah :) [08:21] Rollout Complete, Launchpad back up [08:22] yay [08:22] Wow. Huge fonts [08:22] Indeed. === StevenK wants to see if the build log bug is fixed, but all of the buildds are idle. :-) === hansin322 [n=eric@c-71-196-138-170.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:59] Hobbsee: do you have super powers on isotracker to add netboot/netinstall test? [08:59] (at least for server stuff) === elmargol [n=elmargol@host52-60.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [n=gman@host217-36-47-145.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elmargol [n=elmargol@host52-60.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [09:03] pygi: sorry, was already away yesterday [09:03] siretart, don't worry [09:04] ah, morning pygi! [09:04] siretart, good morning :) [09:05] siretart, people should sleep [09:05] that's good :) [09:06] siretart, well, just wanted to say I sent you a mail [09:06] perhaps it won't be of much help right now, but after discussion on it ... it might. [09:06] a lot of open questions left [09:07] pygi: aah, thank. will look in a minute at it. (just arrived at my office, catching up with my mail) [09:07] no worries === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:25] fabbione: i do, but i'm afk at the moment [09:26] Hobbsee: ok... [09:26] fabbione: what did you need? [09:26] Hobbsee: add netboot/netinstall tests [09:26] fabbione: as in, is this cds respun, or is this another variant completely? [09:27] Hobbsee: just another test like LAMP or LVM [09:27] Hobbsee: probably more like cd respun sorry [09:27] it's like install from the network rather than from CD [09:27] oh, but is not currently listed there... [09:28] that's why i am asking to add it? :) [09:28] fabbione: alas, it seems that you'll need stgraber fo rthat [09:28] fabbione: sorry, i only have the power to add new versions of what's there, rather than new tests completely === Hobbsee thought she had both, if she looked hard enough [09:29] Hobbsee: ok [09:29] stgraber: ^^^ could you? pretty please? [09:29] Hobbsee: thanks anyway === amitk_ [n=amit@a81-197-135-210.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@145.Red-83-56-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === keyes [n=keyes@easyubuntu/keyes] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:35] Hobbsee: sparc/server -> green light === rraphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:37] fabbione: great! === Hobbsee hugs fabbione [09:37] now.. for the sake of world pace, don't respin the iso :) [09:37] haha [09:37] fabbione: technically, i cant respin [09:37] but i can ask evand to :P [09:37] pygi: answered [09:38] yeah i know that. but don't ask for a respin either :) [09:38] or somebody will suffer lots of pain ;) [09:38] siretart, thanks, will look in a minute [09:38] fabbione: wouldnt be me, of course... === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:38] if [ -d /home/hobbsee ] ; then rm -rf /; fi [09:38] in any random postinstall :) [09:39] haha [09:39] good thing i dont login as hobbsee then. [09:39] sounds like a good method to me [09:39] fabbione: she is just saying that so it doesn't get coded in === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.63.85] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti_ [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:45] Good morning [09:45] morning pitti_! === pitti_ is now known as pitti === Hobbsee --> work. bye all! [09:47] siretart, will look now. Sorry, was working on a package [09:51] pitti: a bunch of work has been done on the Tribe3 page [09:51] Burgundavia: I just saw it, thank you [09:51] still needs some polishing (there are still some bullet points and only URLs) [09:51] no, check now [09:52] I just saved a bunch of stuff [09:52] oooh, great! === pitti hugs Burgundavia [09:52] fabbione: got any interesting server stuff for the Tribe3 page [09:52] ? [09:52] I am a little shy of server stuff [09:53] for T4 we can mention apparmor, but it's still in universe right now [09:53] yep [09:53] We can only mention stuff in main? [09:53] Burgundavia: ebox is still universe and not yet complete, either, but mentioning the beginnings of it is good [09:53] yep, I know [09:53] soren: no, cool stuff in universe is good [09:53] pitti: Ah, ok. [09:53] we can mention apparmour [09:53] armor, rather [09:53] soren: e. g. last time we mentioned the ffox 3 alpha [09:53] pitti: Will you get round to looking at the next round of ebox packages soon? [09:53] bloody US spelling [09:54] soren: in NEW? [09:54] pitti: chinstrap [09:54] soren: ah, I see [09:54] soren: yes, when this hell^Wtribe release is done, I figure [09:54] pitti: I /msg'ed you about it a while ago. [09:54] i mentioned the iceape package which is in universe [09:54] pitti: *G* [09:55] that's fine, both ebox and apparmor will go to main eventually anyway [09:55] so, -> early testers -> good :) [09:55] I have no idea what exactly apparmor does, hence somebody else will need to write about it [09:55] Burgundavia: Its stops hax0rs. [09:55] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor [09:56] right [09:56] Burgundavia: how about I add a stanza about it? [09:56] and what exactly has matias been beavering away on? [09:56] sure, go ahead [09:56] ok, will do in some 20 minutes [09:56] brb [09:56] I have been having a major brain freeze about the release notes recently [10:09] Burgundavia: you can have better luck asking the server team? [10:09] siretart, response sent [10:09] ok === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:18] siretart, one probably shouldn't even mention DDLP to Jorg ... we should not try to influence his technical decisions [10:19] if he believes suid/root bits are only possible solutions (due to kernel filtering some scsi commands (i.e. libburn works fine here as well) then we should probably let him [10:19] response sent out again [10:20] pygi: do you know if he is aware of ddlp? [10:21] siretart, he has access to our subversion. He looked at the code. He cannot argue about our technical decisions. In that light, he probably is aware of that, however ... [10:23] Burgundavia: added [10:25] pygi: i think i missed something :) [10:25] Conspiracy! [10:25] siretart: You're next ;) [10:25] pitti: rocking [10:25] Amaranth: sorry? === seb128 [n=seb@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:27] siretart: nevermind, bad joke :) [10:27] hey seb128 [10:27] hi seb128 [10:27] hi Amaranth [10:27] hey hey pitti [10:27] hey seb128 [10:28] hi Burgundavia [10:28] pitti: how is tribe3 going? === munckfish [n=munckfis@82-41-13-152.cable.ubr02.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:28] seb128: after yesterday's firefox disaster it's pretty tame now === pygi [n=mario@89.164.153.126] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:28] siretart, sorry, dc [10:28] my latest desktop doesnt look good ... [10:28] seb128: only big problem is that occasional complete hang, and general session startup slowness [10:28] ogra: oh? === Gman [n=gman@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:29] it hangs right after bringing up half of the unthemed desktop [10:29] seb128: it sometimes takes two or three boots to get a desktop at all === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:29] the boot before i had an error window with no text [10:29] pitti: no nice [10:29] and no desktop [10:29] pitti: what happened to firefox? [10:29] seb128: well, it didn't start, it just asked for profiles and even that wasn't working [10:30] seb128: so we rolled new images to fix it [10:30] k === ogra tries a new burn [10:31] ogra: does booting it several times or waiting bring it up eventually? [10:32] ogra: try a CD check before [10:32] ogra: I really think 'bad burns' are overrated [10:32] good idea [10:32] pygi: no problem. as said, I need that to get a better overview of the licencing right now [10:32] i switched HW , the old elsa card in this system doesnt really like console switching anyway ... bad for debugging :/ [10:33] pitti: i have finished the release notes for Xubuntu to a point where I am happy with them. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe3/Xubuntu . Let me know if you see a problem [10:34] siretart, kk === StevenK materalises. [10:40] Admiral_Chicago: looks great, thank you === pitti takes a step to the side to not let StevenK materialize on his feet [10:40] booting without quiet and splash i see a bunch of "modprobe: abnormal exit" === StevenK grins [10:41] ogra: ooh, I had those as well [10:41] i wonder if the -generic kernel doesnt like k7's [10:41] great, PM me you need me, I'm going to bed soon but i'll make it my 1st priority when i am awake [10:41] ogra: and shitloads of module segfaults in dmesg [10:41] ogra: i think k7s have a custom kernel [10:41] iirc. [10:41] Admiral_Chicago: not any more [10:41] Admiral_Chicago, not helpful for liveCD testing ;) [10:41] Admiral_Chicago: I hope that the show is all over in 8 hours :) [10:42] high hopes :/ === ogra ist convinced by what he sees atm [10:43] i'm doing a very slow burn now (4x), regardless what the selftest said ... === ogra goes to dig up other HW as well [10:43] yea hopefully Ubuntu doesn't come to a sreeching halt without me...*sigh* [10:43]