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GatoLokohi02:04
GatoLokoi was re reading past ubuntu weegly news and I've found something wrong in n4202:07
GatoLokoat some point, talking about catalan team, thear is a text that sais: "The scope of the Catalan LoCo Team is mainly the Catalan Countries"02:09
GatoLokobut Catalonia isn't a country, nor various countries, Catalonia is a region from Spain02:09
GatoLokothey whant independence, but they aren't independent yet02:10
GatoLokoputing it like it "country" may be taken as support for this political position, and as far as I know ubuntu is apolitical02:11
BurgundaviaGatoLoko: right, good catch02:12
GatoLokoi'm not saing that i have something against catalonia, if they want independence they must do whatever they think they must to gain it, but while they aren't independet, there must be no reference from ubuntu to them as something independent02:15
Burgundaviaright, that was a mistake and I shoudl have caught it as well02:17
boredandbloggingGatoLoko: their wiki page says Catalan Countries02:17
GatoLokoI know02:17
GatoLokoand they call themselves that02:17
GatoLokobut they are a spanish region02:18
boredandbloggingaccording to the wikipedia link, "Catalan Countries" refers to territories that speak Catalan. So, there should probably be quotes around Catalan Countries signifying that its not really countries. Thats probably my mistake.02:20
GatoLokowhell, my be i'm taking the words literally, but may be that must be rephrased so there is no posible mistake02:21
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boredandbloggingGatoLoko: actually it says that Catalan countries refers to territories where Catalan is traditionally spoken. I think that is clear enough.02:24
boredandbloggingin the UWN02:24
boredandblogginghi johnc451002:24
johnc4510boredandblogging: howdy02:25
johnc4510:)02:25
boredandbloggingwas there a marketing meeting last week?02:25
GatoLokoboredandblogging there is much more conflict about this02:26
boredandbloggingGatoLoko: ok, I'll take the word "countries" out and rephrase it02:26
GatoLokoi can't explaint it easily, but even between our people this is a hard topic to talk about02:27
johnc4510boredandblogging: on the 12 th i think02:27
boredandbloggingjohnc4510: thanks, I need to take a peek at the logs02:28
GatoLokosome of the territorios caught under "territories where catalan is traditionally spoken" doesn't want to be part of catalonia02:28
GatoLokoand some of them even want to be independent from spains AND catalonia02:28
GatoLokoxD02:28
GatoLokobut that's out of topic, the thing here is that ubuntu may want to be aware that there can be some conflict whith the way this is wrote now02:29
GatoLokoand avoid it if that's posible02:30
boredandbloggingGatoLoko: I understand, I've made a slight change, take a look at it now02:31
GatoLokoi think that this way can work, i hope nobody get mad about the change02:36
boredandbloggingGatoLoko: ok, thanks for pointing all this out02:43
boredandbloggingwas the marketing meeting on the 12th in here? was it logged?02:44
Burgundaviaafaik, there was no meeting02:46
boredandbloggingBurgundavia: wasn't there a discussion on the list about a meeting?02:47
Burgundaviayes02:47
johnc4510boredandblogging: sorry that was t Community Marketing meeting02:47
Admiral_Chicagorelease notes for kubuntu are in active developement...thats good news03:51
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jfalconerHi everyone. I'm here just trying to get some input from the Ubuntu community. Recently I spoke to Vorian about a theme song for Ubuntu, and I'm currently working on demos. But in the spirit of open source (and creative commons that I license all my songs with), I would love to hear what the Ubuntu community wants to hear in a song.05:48
jfalconerAnd of course, what variations from my usual style people would like to see05:48
jfalconerMy material (free, Creative Commons) is at http://www.midnighthaulkerton.com/alfadir05:48
BHSPitMonkeyoh no.05:54
BHSPitMonkeyPlease.  Go no further.05:54
jfalconerlol, why do you say that?05:55
BHSPitMonkeyRemember the GNU song?05:57
BHSPitMonkeyDo you want to be -that- guy?05:57
jfalconerLOL05:57
jfalconerI have heard it05:58
jfalconerOnce. I refused to ever again.05:58
BHSPitMonkeyPlus, when you say "theme song", I assume you mean some kind of song with words.  And, as some of us are aware, all songs with words are completely horrible.05:58
BHSPitMonkeyAnd cheesy.05:58
jfalconerI'm thinking something more conceptual, than the GNU song. Using the concept of ubuntu.05:58
BHSPitMonkeyThere's probably a reason MS hasn't tried this with Windows already.  Or Apple with Mac.05:59
jfalconerBill Gates licenses "Start Me Up" by the Rolling 05:59
jfalconerStones for $13m to promote Win 95.05:59
jfalconerUnfortunately for the sane world... it was successful05:59
BHSPitMonkeyOkay, so license "Free Your Mind" or "Revolution" or something06:00
BHSPitMonkeyPlease don't make an embarrassing theme song for Ubuntu.06:00
BHSPitMonkeyI'm not saying you're a bad musician... if John Lennon wrote a song for Ubuntu, it would be embarrassing.06:01
jfalconerHehe. Don't worry it wasn't my intention to do the embarrassing theme song route. Are you assuming 'theme song' as in the kind of song that uses direct references and talks about the subject?06:02
BHSPitMonkeyWill it have words?06:02
jfalconerI know what you mean. That would be corny rubbish. I haven't heard "Free Your Mind" or "Revolution" but it sounds more along the lines of what I was going to do.06:02
jfalconerIf it does, not many. Not prominently either.06:02
BHSPitMonkeyDoes it involve guitars?06:03
jfalconerI was thinking synths on this one06:04
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BHSPitMonkeyThe one track I've gotten Songbird to play so far... sounds like Bob Dylan.06:10
jfalconerWhich one is that?06:10
BHSPitMonkeyOC06:11
jfalconerAh06:11
BHSPitMonkeynow it's showing the other ones, since I've clicked on the RSS.   You should really have mp3 links centralized somewhere.06:12
jfalconerSeems like ten years ago when I wrote that06:12
jfalconerThere is a page that lists all songs, but I haven't gotten around to adding direct download links yet. It links through to the post for each tuneback06:12
jfalconerhttp://www.midnighthaulkerton.com/alfadir/free-midnighthaulkerton-songs-for-download/06:13
BHSPitMonkeymmhmm.06:13
BHSPitMonkeyis this you singing?06:13
jfalconerYeah06:13
BHSPitMonkeywhat's with the Pearl Jam / Creed / etc. thing?06:13
jfalconerHehe, dunno, never really listened to them06:13
BHSPitMonkeyYou do the same voice they rip off from each other06:14
jfalconerIn OC?06:14
BHSPitMonkeywell, politics is playing now06:14
jfalconerAh06:14
BHSPitMonkeyI just mean the "rrrrrrhhhh!" tonality06:15
jfalconerah, the gravelly tone06:15
BHSPitMonkeyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UJHhUc2mSw06:15
jfalconerLOL06:17
jfalconermind you all the songs on that site are tunebacks. the aim of a tuneback is to write, record and publish a song in under an hour. if we're not done we wrap up and publish what we got. sometimes we have better hours, sometimes we don't :D06:20
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johnc4510hee hee yes   in next UWN  on the freenode security   but it should get some interested in irssi07:47
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pleia2hey01:12
pleia2on the 14th of this month myself and a teammate from the us-pa LoCo team were on a local AM radio station computer show01:13
pleia2we talked about ubuntu and there is now a podcast of the program available01:14
pleia21) is this UWN-worthy? 2) If so, is it possible to get some hosting for this 23M podcast? We currently don't have the resources (and neither does the radio station we appeared on), I haven't even posted it on my blog on planet because of this01:14
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jendayeauch03:38
jenda:)03:38
boredandbloggingjalrnc: hello03:54
jendaboredandblogging: I poked because of pleia2 03:56
jalrncboredandblogging: hey03:56
jendaboredandblogging: since you're one'v'um UWN guys :)03:56
boredandbloggingjenda: what about pleia2?03:58
pleia2boredandblogging: I was asking if a recent podcast was UWN-worthy03:59
pleia2podcast of AM radio show03:59
boredandbloggingahh, yes, we'll put in the loco news section04:00
pleia2is it possible I could find hosting for this file?04:00
pleia2our loco team is approved but we haven't looked into getting webspace yet (we have our own sponsored by a local company at the moment, but it's not good enough to handle much bandwidth)04:01
boredandbloggingpleia2: how big is the file?04:02
pleia2boredandblogging: 23M04:02
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boredandbloggingpleia2: I'm not sure where you could host that04:05
pleia2ah, bummer :\04:05
boredandbloggingpleia2: I've got a dreamhost account that I could post it on04:06
pleia2boredandblogging: that would be great :) I'll email you a link to the file (privately hosted by me at the moment) and details of the show04:07
jendapleia2: try asking some of the neigbouring locos for hosting-help04:07
boredandbloggingpleia2: jenda's idea is good too04:08
pleia2yeah04:09
boredandbloggingpleia2: if you can't find anyone else, I'll do it for you04:09
pleia2if all else fails I could just put it on the ubuntu-women site I suppose (that's canonical hosting)04:10
pleia2maybe I should just do that04:10
boredandbloggingpleia2: probably04:11
elkbuntupleia2, gimme url and i'll suck it onto my dreamhost04:17
pleia2elkbuntu: k, thanks :)04:19
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