[02:04] <GatoLoko> hi
[02:07] <GatoLoko> i was re reading past ubuntu weegly news and I've found something wrong in n42
[02:09] <GatoLoko> at some point, talking about catalan team, thear is a text that sais: "The scope of the Catalan LoCo Team is mainly the Catalan Countries"
[02:09] <GatoLoko> but Catalonia isn't a country, nor various countries, Catalonia is a region from Spain
[02:10] <GatoLoko> they whant independence, but they aren't independent yet
[02:11] <GatoLoko> puting it like it "country" may be taken as support for this political position, and as far as I know ubuntu is apolitical
[02:12] <Burgundavia> GatoLoko: right, good catch
[02:15] <GatoLoko> i'm not saing that i have something against catalonia, if they want independence they must do whatever they think they must to gain it, but while they aren't independet, there must be no reference from ubuntu to them as something independent
[02:17] <Burgundavia> right, that was a mistake and I shoudl have caught it as well
[02:17] <boredandblogging> GatoLoko: their wiki page says Catalan Countries
[02:17] <GatoLoko> I know
[02:17] <GatoLoko> and they call themselves that
[02:18] <GatoLoko> but they are a spanish region
[02:20] <boredandblogging> according to the wikipedia link, "Catalan Countries" refers to territories that speak Catalan. So, there should probably be quotes around Catalan Countries signifying that its not really countries. Thats probably my mistake.
[02:21] <GatoLoko> whell, my be i'm taking the words literally, but may be that must be rephrased so there is no posible mistake
[02:24] <boredandblogging> GatoLoko: actually it says that Catalan countries refers to territories where Catalan is traditionally spoken. I think that is clear enough.
[02:24] <boredandblogging> in the UWN
[02:24] <boredandblogging> hi johnc4510
[02:25] <johnc4510> boredandblogging: howdy
[02:25] <johnc4510> :)
[02:25] <boredandblogging> was there a marketing meeting last week?
[02:26] <GatoLoko> boredandblogging there is much more conflict about this
[02:26] <boredandblogging> GatoLoko: ok, I'll take the word "countries" out and rephrase it
[02:27] <GatoLoko> i can't explaint it easily, but even between our people this is a hard topic to talk about
[02:27] <johnc4510> boredandblogging: on the 12 th i think
[02:28] <boredandblogging> johnc4510: thanks, I need to take a peek at the logs
[02:28] <GatoLoko> some of the territorios caught under "territories where catalan is traditionally spoken" doesn't want to be part of catalonia
[02:28] <GatoLoko> and some of them even want to be independent from spains AND catalonia
[02:28] <GatoLoko> xD
[02:29] <GatoLoko> but that's out of topic, the thing here is that ubuntu may want to be aware that there can be some conflict whith the way this is wrote now
[02:30] <GatoLoko> and avoid it if that's posible
[02:31] <boredandblogging> GatoLoko: I understand, I've made a slight change, take a look at it now
[02:36] <GatoLoko> i think that this way can work, i hope nobody get mad about the change
[02:43] <boredandblogging> GatoLoko: ok, thanks for pointing all this out
[02:44] <boredandblogging> was the marketing meeting on the 12th in here? was it logged?
[02:46] <Burgundavia> afaik, there was no meeting
[02:47] <boredandblogging> Burgundavia: wasn't there a discussion on the list about a meeting?
[02:47] <Burgundavia> yes
[02:47] <johnc4510> boredandblogging: sorry that was t Community Marketing meeting
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> release notes for kubuntu are in active developement...thats good news
[05:48] <jfalconer> Hi everyone. I'm here just trying to get some input from the Ubuntu community. Recently I spoke to Vorian about a theme song for Ubuntu, and I'm currently working on demos. But in the spirit of open source (and creative commons that I license all my songs with), I would love to hear what the Ubuntu community wants to hear in a song.
[05:48] <jfalconer> And of course, what variations from my usual style people would like to see
[05:48] <jfalconer> My material (free, Creative Commons) is at http://www.midnighthaulkerton.com/alfadir
[05:54] <BHSPitMonkey> oh no.
[05:54] <BHSPitMonkey> Please.  Go no further.
[05:55] <jfalconer> lol, why do you say that?
[05:57] <BHSPitMonkey> Remember the GNU song?
[05:57] <BHSPitMonkey> Do you want to be -that- guy?
[05:57] <jfalconer> LOL
[05:58] <jfalconer> I have heard it
[05:58] <jfalconer> Once. I refused to ever again.
[05:58] <BHSPitMonkey> Plus, when you say "theme song", I assume you mean some kind of song with words.  And, as some of us are aware, all songs with words are completely horrible.
[05:58] <BHSPitMonkey> And cheesy.
[05:58] <jfalconer> I'm thinking something more conceptual, than the GNU song. Using the concept of ubuntu.
[05:59] <BHSPitMonkey> There's probably a reason MS hasn't tried this with Windows already.  Or Apple with Mac.
[05:59] <jfalconer> Bill Gates licenses "Start Me Up" by the Rolling 
[05:59] <jfalconer> Stones for $13m to promote Win 95.
[05:59] <jfalconer> Unfortunately for the sane world... it was successful
[06:00] <BHSPitMonkey> Okay, so license "Free Your Mind" or "Revolution" or something
[06:00] <BHSPitMonkey> Please don't make an embarrassing theme song for Ubuntu.
[06:01] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm not saying you're a bad musician... if John Lennon wrote a song for Ubuntu, it would be embarrassing.
[06:02] <jfalconer> Hehe. Don't worry it wasn't my intention to do the embarrassing theme song route. Are you assuming 'theme song' as in the kind of song that uses direct references and talks about the subject?
[06:02] <BHSPitMonkey> Will it have words?
[06:02] <jfalconer> I know what you mean. That would be corny rubbish. I haven't heard "Free Your Mind" or "Revolution" but it sounds more along the lines of what I was going to do.
[06:02] <jfalconer> If it does, not many. Not prominently either.
[06:03] <BHSPitMonkey> Does it involve guitars?
[06:04] <jfalconer> I was thinking synths on this one
[06:10] <BHSPitMonkey> The one track I've gotten Songbird to play so far... sounds like Bob Dylan.
[06:10] <jfalconer> Which one is that?
[06:11] <BHSPitMonkey> OC
[06:11] <jfalconer> Ah
[06:12] <BHSPitMonkey> now it's showing the other ones, since I've clicked on the RSS.   You should really have mp3 links centralized somewhere.
[06:12] <jfalconer> Seems like ten years ago when I wrote that
[06:12] <jfalconer> There is a page that lists all songs, but I haven't gotten around to adding direct download links yet. It links through to the post for each tuneback
[06:13] <jfalconer> http://www.midnighthaulkerton.com/alfadir/free-midnighthaulkerton-songs-for-download/
[06:13] <BHSPitMonkey> mmhmm.
[06:13] <BHSPitMonkey> is this you singing?
[06:13] <jfalconer> Yeah
[06:13] <BHSPitMonkey> what's with the Pearl Jam / Creed / etc. thing?
[06:13] <jfalconer> Hehe, dunno, never really listened to them
[06:14] <BHSPitMonkey> You do the same voice they rip off from each other
[06:14] <jfalconer> In OC?
[06:14] <BHSPitMonkey> well, politics is playing now
[06:14] <jfalconer> Ah
[06:15] <BHSPitMonkey> I just mean the "rrrrrrhhhh!" tonality
[06:15] <jfalconer> ah, the gravelly tone
[06:15] <BHSPitMonkey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UJHhUc2mSw
[06:17] <jfalconer> LOL
[06:20] <jfalconer> mind you all the songs on that site are tunebacks. the aim of a tuneback is to write, record and publish a song in under an hour. if we're not done we wrap up and publish what we got. sometimes we have better hours, sometimes we don't :D
[07:47] <johnc4510> hee hee yes   in next UWN  on the freenode security   but it should get some interested in irssi
[01:12] <pleia2> hey
[01:13] <pleia2> on the 14th of this month myself and a teammate from the us-pa LoCo team were on a local AM radio station computer show
[01:14] <pleia2> we talked about ubuntu and there is now a podcast of the program available
[01:14] <pleia2> 1) is this UWN-worthy? 2) If so, is it possible to get some hosting for this 23M podcast? We currently don't have the resources (and neither does the radio station we appeared on), I haven't even posted it on my blog on planet because of this
[03:38] <jenda> yeauch
[03:38] <jenda> :)
[03:54] <boredandblogging> jalrnc: hello
[03:56] <jenda> boredandblogging: I poked because of pleia2 
[03:56] <jalrnc> boredandblogging: hey
[03:56] <jenda> boredandblogging: since you're one'v'um UWN guys :)
[03:58] <boredandblogging> jenda: what about pleia2?
[03:59] <pleia2> boredandblogging: I was asking if a recent podcast was UWN-worthy
[03:59] <pleia2> podcast of AM radio show
[04:00] <boredandblogging> ahh, yes, we'll put in the loco news section
[04:00] <pleia2> is it possible I could find hosting for this file?
[04:01] <pleia2> our loco team is approved but we haven't looked into getting webspace yet (we have our own sponsored by a local company at the moment, but it's not good enough to handle much bandwidth)
[04:02] <boredandblogging> pleia2: how big is the file?
[04:02] <pleia2> boredandblogging: 23M
[04:05] <boredandblogging> pleia2: I'm not sure where you could host that
[04:05] <pleia2> ah, bummer :\
[04:06] <boredandblogging> pleia2: I've got a dreamhost account that I could post it on
[04:07] <pleia2> boredandblogging: that would be great :) I'll email you a link to the file (privately hosted by me at the moment) and details of the show
[04:07] <jenda> pleia2: try asking some of the neigbouring locos for hosting-help
[04:08] <boredandblogging> pleia2: jenda's idea is good too
[04:09] <pleia2> yeah
[04:09] <boredandblogging> pleia2: if you can't find anyone else, I'll do it for you
[04:10] <pleia2> if all else fails I could just put it on the ubuntu-women site I suppose (that's canonical hosting)
[04:10] <pleia2> maybe I should just do that
[04:11] <boredandblogging> pleia2: probably
[04:17] <elkbuntu> pleia2, gimme url and i'll suck it onto my dreamhost
[04:19] <pleia2> elkbuntu: k, thanks :)