| osxdude|desk | who me? | 12:42 |
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| ompaul | osxdude|desk, no | 12:44 |
| ompaul | osxdude|desk, what are we to do with you? | 12:44 |
| osxdude|desk | Idk, ompaul | 12:45 |
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| ompaul | osxdude|desk, at the risk of being really blatant what should we expect of you going forward? | 12:45 |
| osxdude|desk | what do you think, ompaul? | 12:45 |
| nixternal_ | nalioth: if you get a chance, can you message me my main nick's (nixternal) IP address | 12:45 |
| osxdude|desk | ompaul, you should expect...wait...IT WAS STUPID AWAY SCRIPT | 12:46 |
| ompaul | osxdude|desk, you need to do a little thinking | 12:46 |
| nalioth | nixternal_: /msg it? | 12:47 |
| osxdude|desk | YOU should accept that is was only an away script. It was X-chat... | 12:47 |
| nixternal_ | nalioth: sure | 12:47 |
| osxdude|desk | x-chat's away thingy | 12:47 |
| nalioth | hwo do you message an IP address? | 12:47 |
| ompaul | nalioth, I think I grok what nixternal_ wants | 12:47 |
| ompaul | nixternal_, pm | 12:47 |
| nalioth | i've /msg'd nixternal | 12:47 |
| ompaul | k | 12:48 |
| ompaul | all yours | 12:48 |
| nalioth | dunno how to get any closer to an IP | 12:48 |
| ompaul | no comment | 12:48 |
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| nixternal_ | nalioth: hahaha, msg nixternal_ | 12:48 |
| nixternal_ | me | 12:48 |
| ompaul | haha | 12:48 |
| ompaul | nixternal_, be nice | 12:48 |
| ompaul | hehe | 12:49 |
| ompaul | ohh dear I am tired | 12:49 |
| ompaul | it is late | 12:49 |
| nalioth | night, ompaul | 12:49 |
| ompaul | yeap | 12:49 |
| ompaul | just a mo | 12:49 |
| osxdude|desk | ompaul, you should expect no away msgs, no spamming, no long names (which nobody cares about), and no caps | 12:50 |
| nixternal | thanks nalioth! | 12:51 |
| nixternal | get out of here imposter nixternal_! | 12:51 |
| nixternal | damn comcast changed my IP and the silly dyndns broke | 12:52 |
| ompaul | osxdude|desk, you might want to rejoin #ubuntu | 12:52 |
| nalioth | osxdude|desk: please keep the Ubuntu CoC in mind, and enjoy #ubuntu | 12:52 |
| ompaul | nalioth, if you have anything running on that box -tab you know what | 12:53 |
| ompaul | you might want to move it - it is going to go down in a couple of weeks and come up with a fresh install | 12:53 |
| ompaul | but that is not for a few weeks | 12:53 |
| ompaul | gazzAK and his utf8 | 12:54 |
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| ompaul | meh | 12:54 |
| nalioth | ompaul: just poor old GnewSense | 12:54 |
| ompaul | he ain't doing much | 12:54 |
| nalioth | he's performing his function very well | 12:55 |
| ompaul | aye | 12:56 |
| ompaul | okay well I will talk with you before we take it down | 12:56 |
| ompaul | it will only have to be down for about 10 minutes | 12:56 |
| ompaul | but I will be messing about for a while getting passwords and stuf | 12:56 |
| ompaul | in order | 12:56 |
| ompaul | all in all it should be back up and running within 20 mins | 12:57 |
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| jdong | nalioth or other staff around to serve a kline to user anculz? | 03:51 |
| jdong | he spammed all of the ubuntu dev channels with some rectum.whatever.com link | 03:51 |
| jdong | nvm, looks like he magically died | 03:53 |
| mneptok | %btlogin | 04:09 |
| mneptok | grah | 04:09 |
| mneptok | %login | 04:09 |
| Burgundavia | jdong: apparently miniville and antiville are some sort of french viral site | 04:12 |
| Burgundavia | you have a "city" at it, which grows with each click | 04:13 |
| jdong | Burgundavia: interesting.... | 04:13 |
| jdong | Burgundavia: who names their city rectum??? | 04:13 |
| Burgundavia | somebody with serious issues | 04:13 |
| jdong | LOL | 04:13 |
| Burgundavia | I think the anti site is if you want to destroy somebody elses city | 04:14 |
| jdong | interesting... | 04:14 |
| Tm_P | bah | 04:31 |
| Tm_P | BAH! | 04:31 |
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| mneptok | FE Jayx! | 05:00 |
| Tm_P | nice, no hot water | 05:25 |
| Tm_P | hilarious (= | 05:26 |
| ubot3 | In #ubuntu-ohio, vorian said: !beryl is dead | 05:26 |
| vorian | no | 05:26 |
| vorian | i did not | 05:26 |
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| mortici | can i please be tested for the dcc exploit on my router i change the port | 06:12 |
| mortici | err changed | 06:12 |
| Hobbsee | yep, you're fine. | 06:13 |
| mortici | can i find more info on this exploit? | 06:13 |
| Hobbsee | !exploit | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | also, if you google "netgear irc exploit" you come up with some good links | 06:14 |
| mortici | awsome | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | ubot3: ping | 06:14 |
| ubot3 | pong | 06:14 |
| ubot3 | pong | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | !exploit | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | ubot3: exploit | 06:14 |
| ubot3 | There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit | 06:14 |
| mortici | so can i join the normal channels now? | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | okay then... | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | i'm trying to find your ban still... | 06:14 |
| mortici | awsome thank you :) | 06:15 |
| Hobbsee | this was from ubuntu? | 06:15 |
| mortici | no kubuntu | 06:16 |
| Hobbsee | ahhhh... | 06:16 |
| mortici | :) | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | mortici: well, that explains why i cant find any part of you on the #ubuntu banlist, doesnt it? :P | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | ban removed, thanks for your patience :) | 06:17 |
| mortici | hahah not a problem :) | 06:17 |
| mortici | glad you took care of me :) | 06:17 |
| mortici | now to fix my sound problem with some assistance | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | good luck! | 06:17 |
| mortici | thank you! | 06:17 |
| mortici | :) | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 06:18 |
| mneptok | the ban remains on your sound card. | 06:19 |
| Hobbsee | mneptok! | 06:23 |
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| mneptok | ARR | 06:28 |
| Amaranth | !thanks | 06:39 |
| Amaranth | oh, bleh | 06:39 |
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| mneptok | ummm | 07:43 |
| mneptok | +m does nossing? | 07:44 |
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| Hobbsee | mneptok: where? | 07:44 |
| mneptok | no need now | 07:44 |
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| mneptok | what is +m of this POS network? :D | 07:44 |
| Hobbsee | mneptok: is the channel +z? | 07:45 |
| Hobbsee | mneptok: and were you still op'd? | 07:45 |
| mneptok | #kubuntu is, aye | 07:45 |
| mneptok | i was opped and could /mode | 07:45 |
| mneptok | ./mode #kubuntu +m | 07:46 |
| mneptok | and i watched the flood | 07:46 |
| mneptok | (an unintentional one) | 07:46 |
| Hobbsee | mneptok: +z, means that as an op, you will see the flodo anyway | 07:47 |
| Hobbsee | including anyone +q'd | 07:47 |
| Hobbsee | what i saw was this. | 07:48 |
| Hobbsee | [15:43] *** mneptok sets the channel mode to 'moderated'. | 07:48 |
| Hobbsee | [15:43] <-- pagan0ne has left this channel. | 07:48 |
| Hobbsee | [15:43] *** mneptok sets the channel mode to 'unmoderated'. | 07:48 |
| mneptok | lovely | 07:48 |
| Hobbsee | mneptok: but it means that only the people +o can see it | 07:48 |
| Hobbsee | so it does work | 07:49 |
| Hobbsee | if you want to black hole them where absolutely no one is there, use -z | 07:49 |
| mneptok | 'k | 07:49 |
| Hobbsee | which usually isnt a good idea | 07:49 |
| Hobbsee | easier just to deop. serves the same purpose :P | 07:50 |
| mneptok | -z means +o+v don't see bsocked PRIVMSG to channel? | 07:50 |
| mneptok | *blocked | 07:50 |
| Hobbsee | hm? | 07:51 |
| mneptok | nm. i'll play with a test channel :) | 07:52 |
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| SoulPropagation | Why am I banned from #ubuntu-offtopic? I don't think I've even been in there | 09:56 |
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| Amaranth | @login | 10:06 |
| Amaranth | arg | 10:06 |
| elkbuntu | i think he might be banned because of a ban on eleaf | 10:07 |
| elkbuntu | who happens to also have the name of ethan | 10:07 |
| Amaranth | yep | 10:08 |
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| Tm_P | anyone familiar with joomla and wiki combination? | 10:23 |
| Burgundavia | Tm_P: what sort? | 10:28 |
| Tm_T | we need to somehow include wiki to joomla | 10:38 |
| Burgundavia | you want a wiki in joomla? | 10:39 |
| Tm_T | yes | 10:39 |
| Tm_T | and I'm not sure what is reasonable method | 10:39 |
| Burgundavia | I would rather use another wiki like Mediawiki or Moin and theme them the same | 10:39 |
| Tm_T | problem is, we like to have same authentication to joomla and to wiki, if possiblr | 10:40 |
| Tm_T | and being separate means separate logins | 10:40 |
| Burgundavia | you can use LDAP, although Joomla auth against ldap is a major headache | 10:41 |
| Burgundavia | apparently Joomla 1.5 is going to be better | 10:41 |
| Tm_T | LDAP, hum | 10:41 |
| elkbuntu | Tm_P, there are things like mambowiki which integrates mediawiki iirc | 10:41 |
| Tm_T | elkbuntu: and bundles own (old) mediawiki with it, IIRC | 10:42 |
| Burgundavia | http://extensions.joomla.org/component/option,com_mtree/task,viewlink/link_id,221/Itemid,35/ | 10:42 |
| Tm_T | if I didn't totally misread | 10:42 |
| Burgundavia | looks like 1.5.6 | 10:42 |
| elkbuntu | http://sammoffatt.com.au/jauthtools/index.php?title=Main_Page might be useful too | 10:42 |
| Tm_T | elkbuntu: will look, thanks | 10:43 |
| Burgundavia | don't try the last link elkbuntu used | 10:43 |
| Burgundavia | or, at least, try it on a test joomla instance first | 10:43 |
| Tm_T | ofcourse we'll having test environment (: | 10:45 |
| Tm_T | with Joomla 1.5 beta and all ;) | 10:45 |
| Tm_T | thanks, looks like we might try ldap | 10:45 |
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| PriceChild | *sees the first harry potter spam in debian | 11:49 |
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| Amaranth_ | yay bot attack :/ | 12:08 |
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| jrib | seems like he's having a little trouble | 12:10 |
| Amaranth | let's not let him get started :) | 12:11 |
| Amaranth | the morons are out in full force | 12:15 |
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| elkbuntu | mc44, what the hell is she on about? | 04:51 |
| mc44 | elkbuntu: no idea | 04:51 |
| mc44 | but grr at people posting spoilers in general. :( | 04:51 |
| elkbuntu | yeah | 04:51 |
| elkbuntu | i havent even read the last book yet ffs | 04:52 |
| nalioth | spoilers? | 04:52 |
| nalioth | where? | 04:52 |
| elkbuntu | nalioth, harry potter spoiler link in #ubuntu | 04:52 |
| nalioth | ban them forever! | 04:53 |
| nalioth | :P | 04:53 |
| mc44 | nalioth: k-line pls | 04:53 |
| PriceChild | When's the book out? | 04:53 |
| mc44 | :) | 04:53 |
| mc44 | PriceChild: 2 days or so | 04:53 |
| elkbuntu | PriceChild, about 36hrs or something | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | PriceChild: saturday. | 04:53 |
| nalioth | get in line now, so you'll be the FIRST in your neighborhood to get it!!!!! | 04:55 |
| mc44 | :) | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 04:55 |
| === Hobbsee isnt that much of a morning person | ||
| nalioth | Hobbsee: stores here open at midnight | 04:56 |
| nalioth | no mornings involved | 04:56 |
| mc44 | meh, I just want to read it without some git on the internet having the pleasure of spoilering me | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | ahh. i'ts 9am here | 04:56 |
| nalioth | Hobbsee: they always open at midnight on release days for much-sought-after-cruft | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 04:57 |
| nalioth | give themselves a 9 hour head start | 04:57 |
| PriceChild | pfft Hobbsee you're always on in the morning | 04:58 |
| === Hobbsee so doesnt want to go to bed at 5am again tonight | ||
| PriceChild | exactly | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | PriceChild: yes, the part before i've gone to bed. | 04:59 |
| PriceChild | true :) | 04:59 |
| elkbuntu | nalioth, can you think of any key combo that would conveniently kill a psycho gdm and keep it killed, so as to get to a functional tty to debug :( | 05:00 |
| nalioth | elkbuntu: ctrl-alt-f4 > sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop | 05:01 |
| elkbuntu | nalioth, i forgot to mention that ctrl-alt-F# freezes the whole thing right up | 05:02 |
| nalioth | elkbuntu: ahhh | 05:03 |
| nalioth | you're [adjectived] | 05:03 |
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| nalioth | i guess ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work, either? | 05:03 |
| elkbuntu | nalioth, it restarts x. not kill it off | 05:03 |
| mc44 | elkbuntu: boot into recovery mode maybe? | 05:04 |
| nalioth | and it returns in psycho mode, elkbuntu ? | 05:04 |
| elkbuntu | the current gutsy tribe3 compiz candidate does not agree with VIA graphics cards | 05:04 |
| nalioth | mc44: i think she's not wanting to reboot | 05:04 |
| mc44 | ah | 05:04 |
| elkbuntu | nalioth, it turns into this mode http://geekosophical.net/random/gutsytesting/RMOV0307.ogg | 05:04 |
| elkbuntu | mc44, livecd dear | 05:05 |
| mc44 | oh hmm. So I shouldn't bother testing the tribe3 cd yet? :) | 05:05 |
| elkbuntu | mc44, if you have a VIA Unichrome graphics chip. no | 05:12 |
| elkbuntu | there's also a possible FS corruption somewhere | 05:13 |
| elkbuntu | that affects more than just via | 05:13 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu, A little late but sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop if you can get to a failsafe terminal | 05:14 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, you cant even get to that | 05:14 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, the failsafe terminal.. fails | 05:15 |
| elkbuntu | since it is embedded into the GDM | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: what was yoru bug # again? | 05:15 |
| elkbuntu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/126971 | 05:15 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu, Boot into single user mode? | 05:15 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, livecd | 05:15 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu, You can still pass kernel parameters | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: thanks | 05:17 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, even if i can boot into a failsafe terminal, i still need the gdm to run and die before i can have logs of it dying. but once it's run, i cant switch ttys | 05:17 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu, Install ssh | 05:17 |
| elkbuntu | ... oh | 05:17 |
| elkbuntu | i get you | 05:17 |
| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, do you think that would work? | 05:18 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: if you can ssh in, and do it that way, sure | 05:18 |
| === Hobbsee was about to do that for her other machine feisty breakage | ||
| elkbuntu | someone feed me boot options for a singleuser | 05:18 |
| elkbuntu | because this idea is crazy enough it might just work | 05:19 |
| nalioth | elkbuntu: do you have 2 computers in the house? | 05:19 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu, Just add the parameter "single" | 05:20 |
| elkbuntu | nalioth, yes, but it would involve rebooting this one for the params. google works for those too | 05:20 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, ok thanks | 05:20 |
| nalioth | elkbuntu: i was gonna suggest you ssh in to the afflicted box | 05:20 |
| elkbuntu | nalioth, read up please dear ;) | 05:20 |
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| ikonia | is anyone awake please | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee | no | 05:30 |
| Pici | I am | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee | we're all asleep | 05:31 |
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| PriceChild | Hello ikonia? | 05:32 |
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| ikonia | PriceChild: not to worry - he left | 05:33 |
| ikonia | apologies I'm using a temporary client and didn't see your response | 05:33 |
| ikonia | I'm not used to this interface | 05:33 |
| PriceChild | Hobbsee, lol are those OMGsomething bugs? | 05:33 |
| Hobbsee | PriceChild: which? | 05:33 |
| Hobbsee | PriceChild: OMGTSIF? | 05:33 |
| Hobbsee | which bugs? | 05:33 |
| PriceChild | what's that one stand for again? | 05:34 |
| PriceChild | oh wait don't :P | 05:34 |
| PriceChild | i remember | 05:34 |
| Pici | omg this thing is frelled? | 05:34 |
| Pici | er | 05:34 |
| Hobbsee | no, hopefully we dont hit any more of them | 05:34 |
| PriceChild | the ones elky is having troubles with | 05:34 |
| Pici | gj Pici | 05:34 |
| elkbuntu | PriceChild, omg this s*** is f***ed | 05:34 |
| Hobbsee | PriceChild: meh, standard compiz bug, doesnt seem to effect much HW, not worth delaying the release over | 05:34 |
| PriceChild | can i quote that as "pah, elkbuntu doesn't matter"? | 05:35 |
| Hobbsee | PriceChild: if we delayed for that, i'd also want to see this fs breakage fixed too | 05:35 |
| Pici | I was close ;) | 05:35 |
| Hobbsee | as that'll hit more machines | 05:35 |
| Hobbsee | no | 05:35 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: actually, i'ts omg the sky is falling | 05:35 |
| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, 'not much hardware' in this house is 1/3 of the machines then : | 05:35 |
| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, i like mine better | 05:35 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: hehe, i meant globally, across ubuntu :P | 05:35 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: hehe, yeah | 05:35 |
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| PriceChild | elkbuntu, gimme some input on my email on what we should add to the guidelines :P | 05:36 |
| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, well im working on what i have a chance of getting an in-road on, but the FS breakage should be dealt with imho | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: i know. | 05:36 |
| PriceChild | please :) | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: if we actually *had* a fix for it, that we knew worked, then it'd be a different story | 05:37 |
| elkbuntu | someone needs to do some hoodoo for ogra | 05:37 |
| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, well aware | 05:37 |
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| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, if oli can accurately diagnose it, it will be a different story i think | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: however, the fact that it doesnt, and is fairly complex, means that we'd effectively skip tribe 3, or have to hold another block fo main freeze, etc | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | true | 05:38 |
| mc44 | PriceChild: why not "Retaliation is unacceptable" :P | 05:38 |
| GazzaK | wassn't me | 05:38 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu, How is it working out with single user mode ssh and all? | 05:39 |
| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, but i ddo agree if there is a list of known dead hardware, it's feasible to have a nice big red 72pt 'YES WE KNOW THESE ARE B0RKED' sign with it | 05:39 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: heh :) | 05:39 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, slowly. ssh to a livecd isnt the speediest of shell environments ;) | 05:39 |
| Hobbsee | there's no list, unfortunately. | 05:39 |
| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, i didnt say it had to be complete from the beginning | 05:40 |
| PriceChild | mc44, meh that could stop say retaliating against bot attacks by using access to ban for example | 05:40 |
| elkbuntu | and putting the tribe out will very likely assist in diagnosis | 05:40 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: that's what i'm thinking | 05:40 |
| mc44 | PriceChild: only if you completely redefine retaliation :P | 05:42 |
| PriceChild | mc44, :) | 05:42 |
| elkbuntu | hmm... what is a command to watch a log real-time? is it tail or is that just a once-off? | 05:43 |
| Pici | elkbuntu: tail -f | 05:43 |
| elkbuntu | Pici, thanks | 05:43 |
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| ikonia | guys please keep an eye on zepolen in #ubuntu - he was the one trolling and just being a pain earlier. He left but has come back | 05:46 |
| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, what does single user set as the password for the root user, or is there none? | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: there is none. | 05:46 |
| nalioth | elkbuntu: there is no root user, is there? | 05:46 |
| ikonia | elkbuntu: it doesn't set one | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: actually, it's blank | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: which is also a string fo characters, which ogra knows about | 05:47 |
| elkbuntu | nalioth, single user boot option mode | 05:48 |
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| elkbuntu | heh... didnt think to create a user until now | 05:53 |
| elkbuntu | grrr | 05:55 |
| Hobbsee | \o/ | 05:55 |
| elkbuntu | wtf it still wont let me in | 05:57 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: ssh? | 05:58 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, yes. single user root doesnt have an actual password | 05:58 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: Just to cover all bases you have installed openssh-server? | 05:59 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, yes | 05:59 |
| elkbuntu | melissa@centaur:~$ ssh root@192.168.0.3 | 05:59 |
| elkbuntu | root@192.168.0.3's password: | 05:59 |
| elkbuntu | Permission denied, please try again. | 05:59 |
| elkbuntu | root@192.168.0.3's password: | 05:59 |
| elkbuntu | Permission denied, please try again. | 05:59 |
| elkbuntu | root@192.168.0.3's password: | 05:59 |
| elkbuntu | is kinda the problem | 05:59 |
| Jordan_U | passwd ? | 06:00 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: have you set a root password? | 06:01 |
| ikonia | if its on the network its not in single user mode | 06:01 |
| elkbuntu | ikonia, try tell the livecd that | 06:01 |
| mc44 | elkbuntu: log in as ubuntu/ubuntu? | 06:01 |
| ikonia | elkbuntu: boot from your normal grub menu (no cd) interupt it and root "single" after the linx kernel boot line eg: root=/dev/hda1 single | 06:02 |
| ikonia | elkbuntu: you'll get put into single user on your current system then | 06:02 |
| elkbuntu | ikonia, it's not that simple. there is no grub on this system yet. this system only has XP on the hdd. i am trying to install gutsy, but this is not even booting the daily. i am trying to get some form of evaluation of the gdm log to find out why | 06:03 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: If you want an even crazier Idea you could try enabling persistence :) | 06:03 |
| ikonia | elkbuntu you could always just boot the livecd and mount the hard disk manually ? | 06:04 |
| ikonia | take a look at the gdm log | 06:04 |
| ikonia | ooh | 06:04 |
| ikonia | sorry | 06:04 |
| ikonia | ONLY has XP on it | 06:05 |
| elkbuntu | ikonia, yes, i'm rebuilding the machine. | 06:05 |
| ikonia | elkbuntu: where are you trying to see the gdm log | 06:05 |
| ikonia | from the gusty install cd ? | 06:05 |
| ikonia | or a previous install ? | 06:05 |
| elkbuntu | ikonia, as the livecd boots | 06:05 |
| ikonia | elkbuntu ahhh got you | 06:05 |
| ikonia | elkbuntu can you not let it boot and then drop into a terminal ? | 06:06 |
| elkbuntu | ikonia, that's the part of the gdm breakage that makes it oh so much fun. no. it locks up | 06:06 |
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| elkbuntu | why else would i be trying to see the log via ssh to a livecd. sheesh : | 06:06 |
| ikonia | elkbuntu ahh I see | 06:07 |
| ikonia | as you say, not simple | 06:07 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: I assume safe graphics mode is no help? | 06:07 |
| mc44 | elkbuntu: did try ssh with ubuntu as the user? | 06:07 |
| elkbuntu | mc44, yes. single user mode has one user. root | 06:08 |
| mc44 | elkbuntu: passwd doesn't work? | 06:08 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: Is there something you could do to get X to fail to start at boot instead of doing single user mode? | 06:09 |
| ikonia | elkbuntu are you creating the cd your self or using a pre-build iso ? | 06:09 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, no. there's no 'kill x' keycombo | 06:09 |
| elkbuntu | ikonia, pre-built gutsy daily build | 06:09 |
| ikonia | rats so you can't even add a user and re-build | 06:09 |
| elkbuntu | ZOMG I AM IN | 06:09 |
| ikonia | elkbuntu: how ? | 06:10 |
| elkbuntu | i was doing the password bit wrong | 06:10 |
| elkbuntu | since i always have to read the goddam man page to do passwd right | 06:10 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: I meant more along the lines of a kernel parameter that would screw something up so that x would crash when it tried to load rather than prevent it from trying | 06:10 |
| mc44 | heh | 06:10 |
| elkbuntu | since i do it like once every 6mths | 06:10 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: I would loan you my card if I could, it's a guarenteed fail, won't even work with VESA :) | 06:12 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, well actually, this VIA doesnt like the safe graphics mode either. but that's part of the FS b0rkage that is making this oh so more fun | 06:12 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, we have 2 nice complex breakages ;) | 06:13 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: If you use safe graphics mode will X fail to load? | 06:14 |
| mc44 | seems a bit silly to release the tribe then/ *coughs and runs from Hobbsee fast* | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | mc44: there is no good solution | 06:14 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, it doesnt get as far as x actually | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | mc44: excluding the one about early testing. which obviously we cant go back and do | 06:14 |
| elkbuntu | (hint, that bit is not to do with the via) | 06:14 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, if you want to see an interesting error: http://geekosophical.net/random/gutsytesting/RIMG0308.JPG | 06:15 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: Isn't that what you want, it will keep the GDM from loading | 06:15 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, it doesnt get as far as a prompt. see the pic | 06:15 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: I am actually console bound trying to get X to start on the daily :) | 06:15 |
| mc44 | Hobbsee: I suppose it depends on what the point of the Tribe cds are in the first place | 06:16 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, a functional tty?! WOW!!!! | 06:16 |
| mc44 | Hobbsee: if they were perfect we could release now :P | 06:16 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: Yes, because X never started :) I am trying to cause the same serendipitous failure for you now :) | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 06:17 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, you literally get trapped in the looping gdm, until you do something that makes the whole damn thing freeze and the only way to a sane shutdown is ctrl-alt-del | 06:17 |
| PriceChild | Hobbsee, it was gonna happen eventually | 06:18 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: out of curiosity does alt+sysrq+ ( whatever key gives you keyboard input ) let you switch to a tty? | 06:18 |
| Jordan_U | Can't confortably google the key right now :) | 06:19 |
| Jordan_U | Ok, I think I have it to the point where I can start X, should I run startx to bypass the GDM or try the GDM ( considering I have openssh-server installed and may be able to get some logs ) ? | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | PriceChild: so it seems. | 06:21 |
| elkbuntu | anyway. i have logs now :D | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | yay! | 06:23 |
| mc44 | Hobbsee: I know who the target it, don't worry :) | 06:23 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 06:23 |
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| Jordan_U | Well that failed miserably | 06:28 |
| Jordan_U | So again, if I am able to get X to start should I try logging in from GDM? | 06:30 |
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| Jordan_U | So again, if I am able to get X to start should I try logging in from GDM? | 06:31 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: ? | 06:32 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, are you able to get the xorg log onto a pastebin at all? | 06:33 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: If I can get another machine to ssh into this one yes | 06:33 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: I think that is one of the things upstream can grab also | 06:34 |
| elkbuntu | what is the hurdle to that atm? | 06:34 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: Installing fglrx and convincing my friend to let me borrow his laptop :) | 06:35 |
| Jordan_U | So should I try it? How likely am I to have the same problem with gdm and how importand is getting the logs? | 06:37 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, well, if i can see the logs, i can maybe suggest a way to get it at least bootable | 06:38 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: Trying now... | 06:38 |
| elkbuntu | i have a few ATIs myself. im not exactly a newbie to their issues | 06:39 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: gdm doesn't seem to be doing anything, I ran sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start and so far nothing has happened | 06:40 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, get me a copy of the /var/log/Xorg.0.log please | 06:40 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: OK, I'll try | 06:40 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, if you cant manage a ssh gig. try installing apache and cping it to /var/www/ and giving me a url | 06:42 |
| elkbuntu | wtf? pitti nicked off too? :( | 06:45 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: I think that what I have so far is just going to show you my VESA driver problem | 06:47 |
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| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, probably. let me decide | 06:48 |
| Jordan_U | I am saving things to a flash drive so anything you want me to get / try before I reboot? | 06:48 |
| elkbuntu | not at this point | 06:50 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: X / GDM has started ! | 06:50 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, how did you do that?! | 06:50 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: installed ati drivers and started gdm, gnome-session is started also :) | 06:51 |
| Jordan_U | I am going to try to pastebin / connect from X | 06:51 |
| elkbuntu | imagine that | 06:51 |
| elkbuntu | i suspect the problem with the vesa was certain modules enabled, btw | 06:51 |
| Jordan_U | elkbuntu: Just so you know the VESA problem also exists for me in Edgy / Feisty | 06:52 |
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| Jordan_U_X | Hi :) | 06:53 |
| elkbuntu | Jordan_U, ati cant cope with it's own drivers half the time, let alone those for something else : | 06:53 |
| elkbuntu | brb, need nicotine after the ssh-to-livecd trauma | 06:54 |
| Jordan_U_X | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30454/ | 06:55 |
| Jordan_U_X | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30455/ ( Xorg.0.log.old ) | 06:57 |
| elkbuntu | ok, i'll look in a bit | 06:58 |
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| mc44 | there was enough of it :) | 09:42 |
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