[12:42] who me? [12:44] osxdude|desk, no [12:44] osxdude|desk, what are we to do with you? [12:45] Idk, ompaul === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v nixternal_] by ChanServ [12:45] osxdude|desk, at the risk of being really blatant what should we expect of you going forward? [12:45] what do you think, ompaul? [12:45] nalioth: if you get a chance, can you message me my main nick's (nixternal) IP address [12:46] ompaul, you should expect...wait...IT WAS STUPID AWAY SCRIPT [12:46] osxdude|desk, you need to do a little thinking [12:47] nixternal_: /msg it? [12:47] YOU should accept that is was only an away script. It was X-chat... [12:47] nalioth: sure [12:47] x-chat's away thingy [12:47] hwo do you message an IP address? [12:47] nalioth, I think I grok what nixternal_ wants [12:47] nixternal_, pm [12:47] i've /msg'd nixternal [12:48] k [12:48] all yours [12:48] dunno how to get any closer to an IP [12:48] no comment === ompaul does his own head in [12:48] nalioth: hahaha, msg nixternal_ [12:48] me [12:48] haha [12:48] nixternal_, be nice [12:49] hehe [12:49] ohh dear I am tired [12:49] it is late [12:49] night, ompaul [12:49] yeap [12:49] just a mo [12:50] ompaul, you should expect no away msgs, no spamming, no long names (which nobody cares about), and no caps [12:51] thanks nalioth! [12:51] get out of here imposter nixternal_! [12:52] damn comcast changed my IP and the silly dyndns broke [12:52] osxdude|desk, you might want to rejoin #ubuntu [12:52] osxdude|desk: please keep the Ubuntu CoC in mind, and enjoy #ubuntu [12:53] nalioth, if you have anything running on that box -tab you know what [12:53] you might want to move it - it is going to go down in a couple of weeks and come up with a fresh install [12:53] but that is not for a few weeks [12:54] gazzAK and his utf8 === osxdude|desk [n=osxdude@adsl-76-238-90-152.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu-ops ["I'm] [12:54] meh [12:54] ompaul: just poor old GnewSense [12:54] he ain't doing much [12:55] he's performing his function very well [12:56] aye [12:56] okay well I will talk with you before we take it down [12:56] it will only have to be down for about 10 minutes [12:56] but I will be messing about for a while getting passwords and stuf [12:56] in order [12:57] all in all it should be back up and running within 20 mins === rob [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v rob] by ChanServ === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jrib] by ChanServ === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Exit,] === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mneptok [n=mneptok@canonical/support/mneptok] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v mneptok] by ChanServ === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Amaranth] by ChanServ === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-ops [03:51] nalioth or other staff around to serve a kline to user anculz? [03:51] he spammed all of the ubuntu dev channels with some rectum.whatever.com link [03:53] nvm, looks like he magically died [04:09] %btlogin [04:09] grah [04:09] %login [04:12] jdong: apparently miniville and antiville are some sort of french viral site [04:13] you have a "city" at it, which grows with each click [04:13] Burgundavia: interesting.... [04:13] Burgundavia: who names their city rectum??? [04:13] somebody with serious issues [04:13] LOL [04:14] I think the anti site is if you want to destroy somebody elses city [04:14] interesting... [04:31] bah [04:31] BAH! === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:00] FE Jayx! [05:25] nice, no hot water [05:26] hilarious (= [05:26] In #ubuntu-ohio, vorian said: !beryl is dead [05:26] no [05:26] i did not === phos-phoros [n=donovan@unaffiliated/phos-phoros] has joined #ubuntu-ops === rob1 [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v rob1] by ChanServ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ === mortici [n=mortici@c-67-162-48-33.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [06:12] can i please be tested for the dcc exploit on my router i change the port [06:12] err changed [06:13] yep, you're fine. [06:13] can i find more info on this exploit? [06:14] !exploit [06:14] also, if you google "netgear irc exploit" you come up with some good links [06:14] awsome [06:14] ubot3: ping [06:14] pong [06:14] pong [06:14] !exploit [06:14] ubot3: exploit [06:14] There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit [06:14] so can i join the normal channels now? [06:14] okay then... [06:14] i'm trying to find your ban still... [06:15] awsome thank you :) [06:15] this was from ubuntu? [06:16] no kubuntu [06:16] ahhhh... [06:17] :) [06:17] mortici: well, that explains why i cant find any part of you on the #ubuntu banlist, doesnt it? :P [06:17] ban removed, thanks for your patience :) [06:17] hahah not a problem :) [06:17] glad you took care of me :) [06:17] now to fix my sound problem with some assistance [06:17] good luck! [06:17] thank you! [06:17] :) [06:18] :) [06:19] the ban remains on your sound card. [06:23] mneptok! === Hobbsee hugs mneptok [06:28] ARR [06:39] !thanks [06:39] oh, bleh === maxamillion [n=adam@mobile-166-217-118-136.mycingular.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v nixternal_] by ChanServ [07:43] ummm [07:44] +m does nossing? === Hobbsee beats mneptok with the invalid stick [07:44] mneptok: where? [07:44] no need now === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Amaranth] by ChanServ [07:44] what is +m of this POS network? :D [07:45] mneptok: is the channel +z? [07:45] mneptok: and were you still op'd? [07:45] #kubuntu is, aye [07:45] i was opped and could /mode [07:46] ./mode #kubuntu +m [07:46] and i watched the flood [07:46] (an unintentional one) [07:47] mneptok: +z, means that as an op, you will see the flodo anyway [07:47] including anyone +q'd [07:48] what i saw was this. [07:48] [15:43] *** mneptok sets the channel mode to 'moderated'. [07:48] [15:43] <-- pagan0ne has left this channel. [07:48] [15:43] *** mneptok sets the channel mode to 'unmoderated'. [07:48] lovely [07:48] mneptok: but it means that only the people +o can see it [07:49] so it does work [07:49] if you want to black hole them where absolutely no one is there, use -z [07:49] 'k [07:49] which usually isnt a good idea [07:50] easier just to deop. serves the same purpose :P [07:50] -z means +o+v don't see bsocked PRIVMSG to channel? [07:50] *blocked [07:51] hm? [07:52] nm. i'll play with a test channel :) === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Amaranth] by ChanServ === GazzaK [n=Gary@colchester-lug/pdpc.supporter.active.GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ === SoulPropagation [n=ethan@unaffiliated/soulpropagation] has joined #ubuntu-ops [09:56] Why am I banned from #ubuntu-offtopic? I don't think I've even been in there === SoulPropagation [n=ethan@unaffiliated/soulpropagation] has left #ubuntu-ops [] [10:06] @login [10:06] arg [10:07] i think he might be banned because of a ban on eleaf [10:07] who happens to also have the name of ethan [10:08] yep === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ === Seeker` [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [10:23] anyone familiar with joomla and wiki combination? [10:28] Tm_P: what sort? [10:38] we need to somehow include wiki to joomla [10:39] you want a wiki in joomla? [10:39] yes [10:39] and I'm not sure what is reasonable method [10:39] I would rather use another wiki like Mediawiki or Moin and theme them the same [10:40] problem is, we like to have same authentication to joomla and to wiki, if possiblr [10:40] and being separate means separate logins [10:41] you can use LDAP, although Joomla auth against ldap is a major headache [10:41] apparently Joomla 1.5 is going to be better [10:41] LDAP, hum [10:41] Tm_P, there are things like mambowiki which integrates mediawiki iirc [10:42] elkbuntu: and bundles own (old) mediawiki with it, IIRC [10:42] http://extensions.joomla.org/component/option,com_mtree/task,viewlink/link_id,221/Itemid,35/ [10:42] if I didn't totally misread [10:42] looks like 1.5.6 [10:42] http://sammoffatt.com.au/jauthtools/index.php?title=Main_Page might be useful too [10:43] elkbuntu: will look, thanks [10:43] don't try the last link elkbuntu used [10:43] or, at least, try it on a test joomla instance first [10:45] ofcourse we'll having test environment (: [10:45] with Joomla 1.5 beta and all ;) [10:45] thanks, looks like we might try ldap === seanw [i=swhitton@freenode/staff/wikimedia.sean-whitton] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v seanw] by ChanServ === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Amaranth_] by ChanServ === seanw [i=swhitton@freenode/staff/wikimedia.sean-whitton] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v seanw] by ChanServ === seanw [i=swhitton@freenode/staff/wikimedia.sean-whitton] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v seanw] by ChanServ === seanw [i=swhitton@freenode/staff/wikimedia.sean-whitton] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v seanw] by ChanServ === seanw [i=swhitton@freenode/staff/wikimedia.sean-whitton] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v seanw] by ChanServ === Seeker` [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [11:49] *sees the first harry potter spam in debian === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jrib] by ChanServ === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops [12:08] yay bot attack :/ === Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-164-92-193.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [12:10] seems like he's having a little trouble [12:11] let's not let him get started :) [12:15] the morons are out in full force === stefg [n=stefg@e179145187.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-ops === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Pici [n=pcmacman@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v elkbuntu] by ChanServ === seanw [i=swhitton@freenode/staff/wikimedia.sean-whitton] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v seanw] by ChanServ === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-164-92-193.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ === jussi_ [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-164-92-193.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [04:51] mc44, what the hell is she on about? [04:51] elkbuntu: no idea [04:51] but grr at people posting spoilers in general. :( [04:51] yeah [04:52] i havent even read the last book yet ffs [04:52] spoilers? [04:52] where? [04:52] nalioth, harry potter spoiler link in #ubuntu [04:53] ban them forever! [04:53] :P [04:53] nalioth: k-line pls [04:53] When's the book out? [04:53] :) [04:53] PriceChild: 2 days or so [04:53] PriceChild, about 36hrs or something [04:53] PriceChild: saturday. [04:55] get in line now, so you'll be the FIRST in your neighborhood to get it!!!!! [04:55] :) [04:55] haha === Hobbsee isnt that much of a morning person [04:56] Hobbsee: stores here open at midnight [04:56] no mornings involved [04:56] meh, I just want to read it without some git on the internet having the pleasure of spoilering me [04:56] ahh. i'ts 9am here [04:56] Hobbsee: they always open at midnight on release days for much-sought-after-cruft [04:57] ahhh [04:57] give themselves a 9 hour head start [04:58] pfft Hobbsee you're always on in the morning === Hobbsee so doesnt want to go to bed at 5am again tonight [04:59] exactly [04:59] PriceChild: yes, the part before i've gone to bed. [04:59] true :) [05:00] nalioth, can you think of any key combo that would conveniently kill a psycho gdm and keep it killed, so as to get to a functional tty to debug :( [05:01] elkbuntu: ctrl-alt-f4 > sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [05:02] nalioth, i forgot to mention that ctrl-alt-F# freezes the whole thing right up [05:03] elkbuntu: ahhh [05:03] you're [adjectived] === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ [05:03] i guess ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work, either? [05:03] nalioth, it restarts x. not kill it off [05:04] elkbuntu: boot into recovery mode maybe? [05:04] and it returns in psycho mode, elkbuntu ? [05:04] the current gutsy tribe3 compiz candidate does not agree with VIA graphics cards [05:04] mc44: i think she's not wanting to reboot [05:04] ah [05:04] nalioth, it turns into this mode http://geekosophical.net/random/gutsytesting/RMOV0307.ogg [05:05] mc44, livecd dear [05:05] oh hmm. So I shouldn't bother testing the tribe3 cd yet? :) [05:12] mc44, if you have a VIA Unichrome graphics chip. no [05:13] there's also a possible FS corruption somewhere [05:13] that affects more than just via [05:14] elkbuntu, A little late but sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop if you can get to a failsafe terminal [05:14] Jordan_U, you cant even get to that [05:15] Jordan_U, the failsafe terminal.. fails [05:15] since it is embedded into the GDM [05:15] elkbuntu: what was yoru bug # again? [05:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/126971 [05:15] elkbuntu, Boot into single user mode? [05:15] Jordan_U, livecd [05:15] elkbuntu, You can still pass kernel parameters [05:17] elkbuntu: thanks [05:17] Jordan_U, even if i can boot into a failsafe terminal, i still need the gdm to run and die before i can have logs of it dying. but once it's run, i cant switch ttys [05:17] elkbuntu, Install ssh [05:17] ... oh [05:17] i get you [05:18] Hobbsee, do you think that would work? [05:18] elkbuntu: if you can ssh in, and do it that way, sure === Hobbsee was about to do that for her other machine feisty breakage [05:18] someone feed me boot options for a singleuser [05:19] because this idea is crazy enough it might just work [05:19] elkbuntu: do you have 2 computers in the house? [05:20] elkbuntu, Just add the parameter "single" [05:20] nalioth, yes, but it would involve rebooting this one for the params. google works for those too [05:20] Jordan_U, ok thanks [05:20] elkbuntu: i was gonna suggest you ssh in to the afflicted box [05:20] nalioth, read up please dear ;) === ikonia [n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:30] is anyone awake please [05:30] no [05:30] I am [05:31] we're all asleep === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:32] Hello ikonia? === Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-164-92-193.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:33] PriceChild: not to worry - he left [05:33] apologies I'm using a temporary client and didn't see your response [05:33] I'm not used to this interface [05:33] Hobbsee, lol are those OMGsomething bugs? [05:33] PriceChild: which? [05:33] PriceChild: OMGTSIF? [05:33] which bugs? [05:34] what's that one stand for again? [05:34] oh wait don't :P [05:34] i remember [05:34] omg this thing is frelled? [05:34] er [05:34] no, hopefully we dont hit any more of them [05:34] the ones elky is having troubles with [05:34] gj Pici [05:34] PriceChild, omg this s*** is f***ed [05:34] PriceChild: meh, standard compiz bug, doesnt seem to effect much HW, not worth delaying the release over [05:35] can i quote that as "pah, elkbuntu doesn't matter"? [05:35] PriceChild: if we delayed for that, i'd also want to see this fs breakage fixed too [05:35] I was close ;) [05:35] as that'll hit more machines [05:35] no [05:35] elkbuntu: actually, i'ts omg the sky is falling [05:35] Hobbsee, 'not much hardware' in this house is 1/3 of the machines then : [05:35] Hobbsee, i like mine better [05:35] elkbuntu: hehe, i meant globally, across ubuntu :P [05:35] elkbuntu: hehe, yeah === GazzaK [n=Gary@colchester-lug/pdpc.supporter.active.GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Hobbsee blames GazzaK [05:36] elkbuntu, gimme some input on my email on what we should add to the guidelines :P [05:36] Hobbsee, well im working on what i have a chance of getting an in-road on, but the FS breakage should be dealt with imho [05:36] elkbuntu: i know. [05:36] please :) [05:37] elkbuntu: if we actually *had* a fix for it, that we knew worked, then it'd be a different story [05:37] someone needs to do some hoodoo for ogra [05:37] Hobbsee, well aware === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:37] Hobbsee, if oli can accurately diagnose it, it will be a different story i think [05:37] elkbuntu: however, the fact that it doesnt, and is fairly complex, means that we'd effectively skip tribe 3, or have to hold another block fo main freeze, etc [05:38] true [05:38] PriceChild: why not "Retaliation is unacceptable" :P [05:38] wassn't me [05:39] elkbuntu, How is it working out with single user mode ssh and all? [05:39] Hobbsee, but i ddo agree if there is a list of known dead hardware, it's feasible to have a nice big red 72pt 'YES WE KNOW THESE ARE B0RKED' sign with it [05:39] elkbuntu: heh :) [05:39] Jordan_U, slowly. ssh to a livecd isnt the speediest of shell environments ;) [05:39] there's no list, unfortunately. [05:40] Hobbsee, i didnt say it had to be complete from the beginning [05:40] mc44, meh that could stop say retaliating against bot attacks by using access to ban for example [05:40] and putting the tribe out will very likely assist in diagnosis [05:40] elkbuntu: that's what i'm thinking [05:42] PriceChild: only if you completely redefine retaliation :P [05:42] mc44, :) [05:43] hmm... what is a command to watch a log real-time? is it tail or is that just a once-off? [05:43] elkbuntu: tail -f [05:43] Pici, thanks === ikonia [n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:46] guys please keep an eye on zepolen in #ubuntu - he was the one trolling and just being a pain earlier. He left but has come back [05:46] Hobbsee, what does single user set as the password for the root user, or is there none? [05:46] elkbuntu: there is none. [05:46] elkbuntu: there is no root user, is there? [05:46] elkbuntu: it doesn't set one [05:47] elkbuntu: actually, it's blank [05:47] elkbuntu: which is also a string fo characters, which ogra knows about [05:48] nalioth, single user boot option mode === Jordan_U [n=ubuntu@h-68-164-92-193.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:53] heh... didnt think to create a user until now [05:55] grrr [05:55] \o/ [05:57] wtf it still wont let me in [05:58] elkbuntu: ssh? [05:58] Jordan_U, yes. single user root doesnt have an actual password [05:59] elkbuntu: Just to cover all bases you have installed openssh-server? [05:59] Jordan_U, yes [05:59] melissa@centaur:~$ ssh root@192.168.0.3 [05:59] root@192.168.0.3's password: [05:59] Permission denied, please try again. [05:59] root@192.168.0.3's password: [05:59] Permission denied, please try again. [05:59] root@192.168.0.3's password: [05:59] is kinda the problem [06:00] passwd ? [06:01] elkbuntu: have you set a root password? [06:01] if its on the network its not in single user mode [06:01] ikonia, try tell the livecd that [06:01] elkbuntu: log in as ubuntu/ubuntu? [06:02] elkbuntu: boot from your normal grub menu (no cd) interupt it and root "single" after the linx kernel boot line eg: root=/dev/hda1 single [06:02] elkbuntu: you'll get put into single user on your current system then [06:03] ikonia, it's not that simple. there is no grub on this system yet. this system only has XP on the hdd. i am trying to install gutsy, but this is not even booting the daily. i am trying to get some form of evaluation of the gdm log to find out why [06:03] elkbuntu: If you want an even crazier Idea you could try enabling persistence :) [06:04] elkbuntu you could always just boot the livecd and mount the hard disk manually ? [06:04] take a look at the gdm log [06:04] ooh [06:04] sorry [06:05] ONLY has XP on it [06:05] ikonia, yes, i'm rebuilding the machine. [06:05] elkbuntu: where are you trying to see the gdm log [06:05] from the gusty install cd ? [06:05] or a previous install ? [06:05] ikonia, as the livecd boots [06:05] elkbuntu ahhh got you [06:06] elkbuntu can you not let it boot and then drop into a terminal ? [06:06] ikonia, that's the part of the gdm breakage that makes it oh so much fun. no. it locks up === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops [06:06] why else would i be trying to see the log via ssh to a livecd. sheesh : [06:07] elkbuntu ahh I see [06:07] as you say, not simple [06:07] elkbuntu: I assume safe graphics mode is no help? [06:07] elkbuntu: did try ssh with ubuntu as the user? [06:08] mc44, yes. single user mode has one user. root [06:08] elkbuntu: passwd doesn't work? [06:09] elkbuntu: Is there something you could do to get X to fail to start at boot instead of doing single user mode? [06:09] elkbuntu are you creating the cd your self or using a pre-build iso ? [06:09] Jordan_U, no. there's no 'kill x' keycombo [06:09] ikonia, pre-built gutsy daily build [06:09] rats so you can't even add a user and re-build [06:09] ZOMG I AM IN [06:10] elkbuntu: how ? [06:10] i was doing the password bit wrong [06:10] since i always have to read the goddam man page to do passwd right [06:10] elkbuntu: I meant more along the lines of a kernel parameter that would screw something up so that x would crash when it tried to load rather than prevent it from trying [06:10] heh [06:10] since i do it like once every 6mths [06:12] elkbuntu: I would loan you my card if I could, it's a guarenteed fail, won't even work with VESA :) [06:12] Jordan_U, well actually, this VIA doesnt like the safe graphics mode either. but that's part of the FS b0rkage that is making this oh so more fun [06:13] Jordan_U, we have 2 nice complex breakages ;) [06:14] elkbuntu: If you use safe graphics mode will X fail to load? [06:14] seems a bit silly to release the tribe then/ *coughs and runs from Hobbsee fast* [06:14] mc44: there is no good solution [06:14] Jordan_U, it doesnt get as far as x actually [06:14] mc44: excluding the one about early testing. which obviously we cant go back and do [06:14] (hint, that bit is not to do with the via) [06:15] Jordan_U, if you want to see an interesting error: http://geekosophical.net/random/gutsytesting/RIMG0308.JPG [06:15] elkbuntu: Isn't that what you want, it will keep the GDM from loading [06:15] Jordan_U, it doesnt get as far as a prompt. see the pic [06:15] elkbuntu: I am actually console bound trying to get X to start on the daily :) [06:16] Hobbsee: I suppose it depends on what the point of the Tribe cds are in the first place [06:16] Jordan_U, a functional tty?! WOW!!!! [06:16] Hobbsee: if they were perfect we could release now :P [06:17] elkbuntu: Yes, because X never started :) I am trying to cause the same serendipitous failure for you now :) [06:17] heh [06:17] Jordan_U, you literally get trapped in the looping gdm, until you do something that makes the whole damn thing freeze and the only way to a sane shutdown is ctrl-alt-del [06:18] Hobbsee, it was gonna happen eventually [06:18] elkbuntu: out of curiosity does alt+sysrq+ ( whatever key gives you keyboard input ) let you switch to a tty? [06:19] Can't confortably google the key right now :) [06:20] Ok, I think I have it to the point where I can start X, should I run startx to bypass the GDM or try the GDM ( considering I have openssh-server installed and may be able to get some logs ) ? [06:21] PriceChild: so it seems. [06:22] anyway. i have logs now :D [06:23] yay! [06:23] Hobbsee: I know who the target it, don't worry :) [06:23] :) === ubuntu__ [n=ubuntu@h-68-164-92-193.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === ubuntu__ is now known as Jordan_U [06:28] Well that failed miserably [06:30] So again, if I am able to get X to start should I try logging in from GDM? === Jordan_U [n=ubuntu@h-68-164-92-193.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [06:31] So again, if I am able to get X to start should I try logging in from GDM? [06:32] elkbuntu: ? [06:33] Jordan_U, are you able to get the xorg log onto a pastebin at all? [06:33] elkbuntu: If I can get another machine to ssh into this one yes [06:34]