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SmokeyD|afkNickPugh, /msg NickServ REGISTER <password>12:01
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stuart_i did a clean format on my primary HD, but had some data on my secondary HD that i wanted to keep12:01
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stuart_if i formatted my secondary HD as well, i still can't mount my secondary HD12:01
bokkento all: is the fat saved on the primary drive in windows or saved on the drive it is on? if anyone knows12:02
bokkenfat in windows12:02
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rocketsWhat plugin do I need to play real player video with gstreamer12:03
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Cyber_Stalkerstuart_:  when you say secondary hard drive do you mean a physically seperate one... or just a partition of it?12:03
ninixhi, i need some help. I have my kubuntu OS totally installed, configured with all app i need. But i want the exact thing on my Desktop pc. is it possible to do something for copy hd to hd, or it is incompatible ?12:03
puppe/quite: "going to bed"12:03
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rjekninix: You can copy the packages list across, and then copy your home directory.12:04
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d2leovox754: Is there anyway to take storage off of my ext3 partition and add it onto my ntfs one?12:04
pi3it's the hour of ubuntu, 7:0412:04
DelawareAEAhello.  If the ubuntu repositories have an old version of the program I want, do I have to uninstall the version I have before compiling the latest from source?12:04
aschedinnCan anyone think of a reason why none of my SSL based stuff is working?  psftp, https, putty, ssh..connects to localhost and 1 other computer on the network...it hangs on debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent12:05
rjekninix: But just copying the hard disc sector by sector is likely to not work unless the hardware concerning storage is identical.12:05
ninixrjek: but it not just that. i configured a lot of software in /etc, like samba etc..12:05
rjekninix: Copy those files too :)12:05
vox754d2leo, there should be by resizing. You need to create unallocated space and resize the other partition. But I've never done it.12:05
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ninixlol i surely don't remember all these files12:05
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stuart_cyber; test12:06
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stuart_hm, no idea how to use nick completion12:06
Cyber_Stalkerninix: just copy the whole of etc? :D12:06
d2leovox754: yeah i did do that, but the unallocated storage goes underneath my ext3 partition and im unable to add anything onto my ntfs.12:06
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stuart_Cyber_Stalker, a physically separate one12:06
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Cyber_Stalkerstuart_:  use tab :D12:06
ninixCyber_Stalker: i don't think it a good idea.12:06
ninixrjek: and what did u mean with copy packages list ?12:06
vox754d2leo, I think you can move the partitions...12:06
stuart_and it's quite weird that it shoudl disappear just like that12:06
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rjekninix: Precisely what I said - you can get a list of installed packages out of dpkg, and then apply that list on another machine so they have the same software installed.12:07
sicoi can't apt-get upgrade :(12:07
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rjekTHen it's just a matter of copying your data and config over.12:07
sicoand firefox won't run12:07
Cyber_Stalkerhmm stuart_ ok weird, you shouldnt have formatted it by mistake... i cant really help you past that unfortunatly, is it possible that the hard drive has died?? :D12:07
sicoE: /var/cache/apt/archives/update-manager-core_1%3a0.59.23_i386.deb: failed in buffer_read(fd)12:07
ninixrjek: emm i gonna check12:07
stuart_well i wouldn't mind formatting it accidentally. it's just that it's weird i can't mount my newly formatted HD, or can't find it12:07
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orehonWhen I start my computer the fsck start to check the HD and find an error and I get a shell... I just skip it and everything works fine! Who can I run the fsck to fix the possible problem and stop to check it on every boot!12:08
stuart_couldn't be, it was working fine before i installed ubuntu12:08
rjekRight, nobody's answered my question, so I'm buggering off. :)12:08
goofyi need help with my desk top it wont load12:08
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car_watlook that Starting Tomcat12:08
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)12:08
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator)12:08
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'NOLOGIN_STR' (notify administrator)12:08
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'ENV_HZ' (notify administrator)12:08
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'PASS_MAX_LEN' (notify administrator)12:08
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)12:08
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'CLOSE_SESSIONS' (notify administrator)12:08
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rocketscar_wat, pastebin.com12:08
scorp123!pastebin | car_wat12:08
ubotucar_wat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:08
Cyber_Stalker!pastebin | car_wat12:08
rocketslol12:08
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rocketsnow we're flooding the channel with pastebin info12:08
Cyber_Stalkerlol12:08
scorp123rockets: yeah, sounds like fun :)12:09
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sicoanyone have any idea why i can't apt-get upgrade anymore???12:09
_`XeOn_still having same problem12:09
_`XeOn_update wont work12:09
orehonWhen I start my computer the fsck start to check the HD and find an error and I get a shell... I just skip it and everything works fine! How can I run the fsck to fix the possible problem and stop to check it on every boot!12:09
rocketssico, a bit more detail?12:09
bokkenstu: my guess, with no real proof, is that it could be trying to work on a windows system but you have ubuntu installed. correct me if i am wrong. or just no fat...12:09
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orbisvicis_!pastebin12:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:09
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sicorockets: i don't know what to say? i pasted the error12:09
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car_watStarting Tomcat12:09
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)12:09
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator)12:09
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'NOLOGIN_STR' (notify administrator)12:09
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'ENV_HZ' (notify administrator)12:09
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'PASS_MAX_LEN' (notify administrator)12:09
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)12:09
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'CLOSE_SESSIONS' (notify administrator)12:09
Cyber_Stalkeraahhh ffs12:09
car_watafter upgrating ubuntu12:10
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stuart_hm. what partitions does ubuntu recognize? ntfs or fat12:10
Cyber_Stalkersome one sort this guy out12:10
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ofirhello all12:10
rocketssico,  ah. yeah. i have no idea what that means :-D12:10
car_watI tried to start tamcat12:10
sico:( me either :(12:10
car_watand saw thar error12:10
car_watStarting Tomcat12:10
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)12:10
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator)12:10
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'NOLOGIN_STR' (notify administrator)12:10
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'ENV_HZ' (notify administrator)12:10
vox754!ops12:10
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'PASS_MAX_LEN' (notify administrator)12:10
scorp123car_wat: are you actually reading what people tell you???12:10
NigelScar_wat: don't flood the channel, use pastebin for logs and errors12:10
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok12:10
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)12:10
car_watconfiguration error - unknown item 'CLOSE_SESSIONS' (notify administrator)12:10
Cyber_Stalkerstuart_:  i can see my ntfs partitions in ubuntu... i havnt really tried to access them yet altho i cannot mount them12:10
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tomawcar_wat: ?12:10
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stuart_man then where did my hd go :(12:10
webstar88hello all12:10
Cyber_Stalkerthanks ompaul12:10
stuart_had some pretty nice porn on there12:11
Cyber_Stalkerthat was fetting really annoying :D12:11
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scorp123tomaw: thank you12:11
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tomawscorp123: it wasn't me :)12:11
scorp123ompaul: thank you12:11
Cyber_Stalkerwas ompaul :D12:11
scorp123tomaw: thank you  (for correcting me ... LOL)12:11
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tomawhehe12:11
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metalfanhi12:12
gcarrillohi all12:12
webstar88installed 7.04 all OK except can't record sound, tried different sound setting, no luck, can anyone help?12:12
metalfanhow do i restart the x server without reboot?12:12
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goofyanyone know why my desktop wontload after login12:12
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gcarrillois there a map program available for ubuntu, that can be used offline?12:12
geniimetalfan:  ctrl-alt-backspace12:12
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gcarrillometalfan: ctrl-alt-backspace12:12
kitchemetalfan: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop if your on ubuntu xdm if your on xubuntu and kdm for kubuntu12:12
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NigelSmetalfan: logging out and logging in will do this.  From a command line with the server down for example /etc/init.d/gdm restart if gdm is your login manager12:12
metalfangoofy, post /var/log/Xorg.0.log on a pastebin service....paste the link here12:13
kitchectrl-alt-backsapce can be bad12:13
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metalfanthx12:13
NigelSgcarrillo: that's a hard kill of the server, not a good idea, it's not meant for just exiting X12:13
gcarrillometalfan: /etc/init.d/gdm restart12:13
gcarrillohow bout that way12:13
metalfangcarrillo, text consoles seems to be disabled in latest ubuntu?12:13
dissectionHow do I set read/write persmission for a .conf file12:14
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NigelSdissection: for whom?12:14
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dissectionNigelS: I want to set it so I don't have to type sudo each time, to edit proxychains.conf12:14
metalfandissection, man chown12:14
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gcarrilloi died12:14
NigelSdissection: then sudo chmod a+rw to set read/write for everyone12:14
metalfangcarrillo, text consoles seems to be disabled in latest ubuntu?12:15
gcarrillothe VTs are working for me12:15
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gcarrilloalthough it just logged me out :P12:15
sunkencan someone explain this in dmesg: 'hda-intel: Invalid position buffer, using LPIB read method instead.'12:15
geniidissection: not chown. chmod12:15
metalfanNigelS, maybe give rights for his user is better?12:15
Arclite_Okay, I'm kind of a desktop Ubuntu newb, but I've been using it as a media server for a while. My Macbook Pro (running OS X) is in the shop. I need to work on some Ruby stuff. Does anyone have suggestions for a decent "code" text editor, preferably one targeted for Ruby dev?12:15
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metalfangcarrillo, oh....sry...12:15
geniidissection: But that begs the question why you want to change the default permissions12:15
gcarrillonp :)12:15
goofymetalfan http://pastebin.com/d69da30bd12:15
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scorp123sunken: sounds like your sound card has minor troubles. Unless you experience serious problems (e.g. weird sounds, or no sound at all) I think you can safely ignore that.12:16
cdiddyhi12:16
dissectiongenii: Why, is it a bad idea? Its only for one file12:16
gcarrillohi12:16
NigelSmetalfan: maybe, maybe not; I'm not going to make decisions for him :)12:16
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geniidissection: I never said it was a bad idea. I'm wondering what is it that you require this12:16
sunkenscorp123: the only thing that bugs me is that if I plug in headphones, there is no sound in them12:16
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gcarrilloanybody know of map programs that need you to be online?12:16
NigelSdissection: incidentally if you are in a terminal and type sudo -s then you'll get a root shell and don't need to preface everything with sudo from then on12:16
gcarrillojust curious12:16
cdiddyanybody have any experience configuring dual monitors with dual video cards on ubuntu?12:16
cdiddyive tried everything12:17
orehonHow can I skip fsck from system boot ?!12:17
gcarrilloi mean that *don't* need u to be online12:17
metalfangoofy, i guess x starts fine, but the last line looks interesting:  AUDIT: Wed Jul 18 18:04:41 2007: 6254 X: client 1 rejected from local host (uid 1000)12:17
metalfangoofy, whats your users uid?12:17
scorp123sunken: Intel HDA cards are still very very new .... could be that they don't work yet 100% everywhere12:17
dissectiongenii: I have to edit proxychains.conf about 15 times a day so hate having to type the password all the time12:17
scorp123sunken: I have one of those in my HP dv2108ea laptop ... and it's only since a few weeks that it works there.12:17
gcarrilloi have intel hda, mine seems ok12:17
sunkenscorp123: ok, will there be any new realeases of ubuntu that will 'fix' my problem?12:18
scorp123sunken: the problem here is Intel12:18
goofy meralfan uid?12:18
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dissectionNigelS: Is it the same as "su"?12:18
metalfandissection, open a root terminal in gnome12:18
geniidissection: Just edit instead the sudoers file not to require your user to need to put in password every time. man sudoers will have proper syntax12:18
sunkenscorp123: ok, they fight open system still?!12:18
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scorp123sunken: unless they don't release the full specs the ALSA people can't write new sound drivers, and the people at Canonical can't put them into Ubuntu ...12:18
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Cyber_Stalker!upgrade12:19
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes12:19
gcarrillogood answer12:19
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NigelSdissection: same effect basically; it just launches a shell12:19
sunkenscorp123: ok, thank you for your time12:19
Arclite_Okay, I'm kind of a desktop Ubuntu newb, but I've been using it as a media server for a while. My Macbook Pro (running OS X) is in the shop. I need to work on some Ruby stuff. Does anyone have suggestions for a decent "code" text editor, preferably one targeted for Ruby dev (syntax highlighting a plus)?>12:19
cdiddyCan anybody here help me?12:19
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ubutom!question12:19
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:19
NigelSArclite_: I personally find kate to be nice though I haven't done ruby - I would be surprised if it didn't have syntax highlighting for it12:20
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dissectionI was wondering, when you use the prefer sudo, it basically asks for your user password, and then gives you administrator rights. Isn't that a security risk? I never understood that12:20
scorp123sunken: something coming to my mind ...12:20
dissection*prefix12:20
scorp123sunken: your machine ... is that a laptop?12:20
goofymetal fan wht do you mean by uid12:20
cdiddyi have tried and tried and searched and searched, and all I want to do is be able to setup two monitors with two video cards12:20
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sunkenscorp123: yes it is, sorry for not telling you that12:21
cdiddyI havent had any luck12:21
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vslashca roule ?12:21
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sunkenscorp123: it has 1 output and 1 input and pcspeakers12:21
scorp123sunken: take a close look at the volume controls ... Chances are that it has additional channels like "PCM2" which are set to the minimum. Turning that one up helped a lot in my case.12:21
NigelSdissection: well the question isn't that exactly since there's the alternative of an enabled root account to look into.  The only question then is, is it worse,better or the same sec wise as having a seperate root account12:22
sunkenscorp123: will check again12:22
metalfanim trying to get rid of the "Composite" xorg extension......in the xorg extension section i have:  Option         "Composite" "Disable"       but after login:    xdpyinfo |grep Comp   still displays Composite?12:22
NigelSdissection: when ubuntu was first released the debate happened and it was felt that disabling root was fine and using sudo was the way forward12:22
likwidtekTrying to get Desktop Effects to run on my machine.  I have a VT8378 S3 UniChrome Integrated Video.  When I enable desktop effects I get a solid white screen.  Anyone want to lend some advise?12:22
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likwidtekI'm running Feisty12:22
kbrooksmetalfan, ctrl+alt+bksp buttons12:23
metalfankbrooks, for what?12:23
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kbrooksmetalfan, restart X1112:23
NigelSdissection: having 1 pw makes it more likely, for one thing, that people won't do what they so often do and make a really easy root or user pw because they don't like remembering two.  They also choose only slight variants to set them apart. Using sudo also avoids people, nearly by default, leaving themselves logged in12:23
metalfanalready did12:23
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kbrooksdissection, also, both ways have exactly one weakness12:25
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dissectionNigelS: And is it a problem to stay logged in? Because if someone were to hack the system and get the user pass, he'd get admin access anyway using sudo12:25
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samwizedoes anyone know the md5sum hash for xubuntu 7.04 alternate cd?12:26
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Cyber_Stalkerhey tiax, i could just use " gksu "update-manager -c" "12:26
NigelSdissection: if someone hacks in why is it easier to get the user pw than the root?12:26
NigelSdissection: if you can brute force the user hash you can do the same for the root one unless the root one is more complex.  The idea is that you don't use a simple pw for your user acct12:27
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NemesisDim about to partition a disk for ubuntu with ext3, can anyone argue that XFS or ReiserFS or JFS are significantly better?12:27
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NemesisDim currently just doing this as a test on an old 20gb drive but i plan to use this computer as a larger backup file server if that's relevant12:28
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kbrooksNemesisD, dooon't even look at reiserfs12:28
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MilitantPotatoWhy isn't Gdesklets working, any ideas?12:28
NemesisDkbrooks, hehe whys that12:28
NemesisDi heard it was good12:28
PriceChild!best | NemesisD12:28
ubotuNemesisD: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.12:28
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dissectionNigelS: No I'm saying.. Say the root account is disabled (for security?).. So if someone hacks into the PC and gets the username, and pass, he could simply use sudo using the same pass and get admin access. Or if a user has enabled root access and stays logged in, I think someone who hacks into the system has root access again. So aren't both the same?12:28
kbrooksNemesisD, the founder got imprisoned for allegedly kidnapping12:29
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samwizewhy isnt the xubuntu 7.04 alternate cd hash listed?12:29
Cyber_Stalkeris there any one here that could help me access my NTFS HD... i can see it in nautilus but i get an error about mounting it, what would be the best/easyest way to access it12:29
NemesisDkbrooks, that doesn't mean his work is bad12:29
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sunkenmy headphone jack does not work for me12:29
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kitchesamwize: it is12:29
MilitantPotatooh yea ignore the newbie :P12:30
geniidissection: Only trusted users are supposed to have sudo rights on the computer. So only 1 or a few ppl's actual user accounts could conceivable be used to hijack your box12:30
kbrooksMilitantPotato, um12:30
samwizekitche: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes -  only xubuntu 6.10 hash is there12:30
MilitantPotato:D12:30
bjamesstupid question:  can tar take standard input:12:30
kbrooksMilitantPotato, clarify not working12:30
geniidissection: These trusted users would also use root privelege only when needed.12:30
bjamesbunzip2 -c "${1}" > tar -xf;;12:30
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kbrooksbjames, don't12:31
Cyber_Stalker!NTFS12:31
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:31
MilitantPotatoIt opens a window, with nothing in it, after one min or so it closes12:31
dissectiongenii: Ah so you could create user accounts for whom sudo is disabled? Okay, that makes sense.12:31
NigelSdissection: nope.  That wouldn't be how it works.  The danger of being left logged in is that you either are vulnerable to someone with physical access performing unauthed ops or that you launch a process with root privs that introduces an attack vector since an exploit targetting it could then run with root privs.  So they aren't equivalent nope.  Can you think of an instance though where someone could hack into a computer and get the user account where they coul12:31
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kbrooksbjames, tar -xf $112:31
kbrooksbjames, do that12:31
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kitchesamwize: you don't look hard do you :) http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/MD5SUMS12:31
kbrooksbjames, xf does automatic detection12:31
blizzowanyone know what packages should be installed to get xen running in gutsy?12:31
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bjameskbrooks: what will -xf auto-decompress?12:32
geniidissection: Only the first user created on an ubuntu install has sudo rights by default. All others afterwards must specifically be added to the list of trusted users.12:32
kbrooksbjames, bz2 and gz, dunno about others12:32
bjames.tar.gz, .tgz, ..tar.bz, tbz,12:32
bjamesincluding the shorthand?12:32
kbrooksbjames, .tar.gz == .tgz12:32
samwizekitche: i would never had been able to find that12:32
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bjamesI know12:32
bjameshence "the shorthand"12:32
kitchesamwize: it's right on the download site for xubuntu12:33
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kbrooksbjames, yes including that12:33
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ninixis there a way to REDOWNLOAD all installed packages ?12:33
ninixnot reinstall ?12:33
juano__can someone tell me why the repos are so slow ?12:33
bjamesdamn - I just spent a while creating a script that will look at the file type given, check for the right decompression program, then run it12:33
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d4rkmonkey!gutsy12:33
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+112:33
Orrajdo coiled Ethernet cables loss connectivity? Ive been so.12:33
d4rkmonkey!ipod12:33
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod12:33
vox754ninix, yes. It is a pain. The repositories are there feel free to redownload everything.12:34
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dissectionNigelS, genii: Okay, so in your opinion, which is better. (1) Having root account disabled and using as normal user with sudo (2) Having root account enabled with a complex password of say 20 characters and be responsible enough to log yourself always, and disable sudo12:34
d4rkmonkey!rockbox12:34
uboturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!12:34
ninixvox754: but with a command line ?12:34
kitchebjames: with the newest version of gnu tar it autodetects the compression12:34
MohdGuys, I have a problem here. I've downloaded the "Updates" and now I am about to  install them, but i got this wierd message "Another synaptic is running"12:34
d4rkmonkeybye!12:34
dissection*logout that is12:34
MohdAny one know a solution? I am new to Linux.12:34
dissectionMohd: You need to close your synaptic package manager12:34
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MohdDissesction : I dont have it open in the first place?12:35
geniidissection: Consider, doing an oopsie like rm -Rf /* while in root12:35
bjameskitche: I will test what files it can handle, then remove the excess from the script12:35
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pike_Mohd: try sudo pkill synaptic12:35
bjamescheers12:35
vox754ninix, I would guess you should use "wget" read the manual page "man wget"12:35
NigelSdissection: I'll answer that if you answer my question :)12:35
OrrajMohd the add/remove window is also a synaptic12:35
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dissectionNigelS: What question? Your text was too long, and your last sentence was broken ;[12:35
NigelSdissection: it's no use positing usage cases that don't reflect reality I would also add12:35
nikinis there a program like moviemaker on windows in ubuntu? i want to do some work on my screen capture videos... witch are in ogg format (theora+vorbis)12:35
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geniidissection: sudo is basically a tool to protect us from ourselves, not so much from the outside12:36
ninixlol... nvm then. i got 1440 packs.12:36
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MilitantPotatoReinstalled GDesklets and still it opens a window with nothing in it, and stops responding12:36
estudiantes_with sudo you can protect from everybody12:36
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dissectionHmm12:36
likwidtekhow do I change my video driver?12:36
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kitcheMilitantPotato: did you install some widgets along with it?12:37
MilitantPotatoSystem>admin>restricted driver manager12:37
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duskanyone know why fglrx freezes after a few minutes in feisty?12:37
kitchelikwidtek: change your video driver to what?12:37
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MilitantPotatokitche: no12:37
NigelSdissection: it shouldn't be too long12:38
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NigelSdissection: Can you think of an instance though where someone could hack into a computer and get the user account where they couldn't also get the root one since tghey are both stored in the same (root owned) file12:38
dissectionNigelS: It ended "Can you think of an instance though where someone could hack into a computer and  get the user account where they coul12:38
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kitcheMilitantPotato: well that's most likely why12:38
nikinis there a good video editor for OGG (theora+vorbis) video files in ubuntu?12:38
NigelSdissection: was what I said12:38
MilitantPotatoit did install lots of applets on its own12:38
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dissectionHrm12:38
kitcheMilitantPotato: yeah but I think you have to enable it12:38
likwidtekwell I think I am using the vesa driver.  I have an s3 unichrome integrated driver12:38
MilitantPotatoOk, so where do I start?12:39
likwidtekand I am trying to get "desktop Effects" to work12:39
nikinalmost every other movieformat will also do :D trancoding is not a problem :D12:39
kitchelikwidtek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is debian/ubuntu's way12:39
estudiantes_with sudo you can protect your computer from a whole network12:39
Perunis there somewhere a xen kernel >2.6.20 repository for feisty? (unsupported or supported)12:39
kitchelikwidtek: and vesa won't work with desktop effects12:39
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duskis there a fix for fglrx freezes?12:39
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makihello12:39
likwidtekyeah, so sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will hook me up?  :)12:39
geniiPerun: good question, I haven't seen one yet12:39
dissectionNigelS: I normally use 25 character passwords for something *really* important though. So can they both be hacked the same way if someone used the same method he could/would to obtain my user pass?12:39
makiwhere can i find the latest gutsy gibon dev iso image ?12:40
samwizeis SAO best for .iso burning?12:40
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metalfanwhats the ubuntu version to gentoos "rc-update" ?12:40
vox754!gutsy12:40
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dusk!fglrx12:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:40
likwidtekkitche I have a bunch to choose from.  Which do i choose?12:40
geniimetalfan sudo apt-get update12:40
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metalfanthx12:40
metalfangenii, h...wait12:41
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kitchelikwidtek: for the vesa driver or for the unichrome one?12:41
NigelSdissection: well the question is one of search-time within the search space; there's a level of complexity in a pw which takes it beyond the search-time that would be feasible for an attacker and as such anything above that level of complexity is arguably superfluous from an attack point of view12:41
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sergiolhello12:41
Orrajanyone want to explain drivers to me? I also saw them as independent software that played mediator between the computer and the new hardware, but in linux I don't see a easy install for drivers.12:41
metalfangenii, why do you try to help if you dont have a clue?12:41
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likwidtekthe integrated video is s3 unichrome12:41
sergiolcan i ask a simple non ubuntu question here?12:41
metalfangenii, rc-update is the runlevel editor in gentoo12:41
likwidtekand I see a listing in there for s312:41
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lousygaruawhen pressing Alt+F2, does gnome runs a certain 'launcher app' or is it a built in command? can i run the same dialog from command line?12:41
hamzaany one knows how i can view tv on ubuntu...my tvcard is already installed12:41
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sergiolis there any Spanish here?12:42
pike_lousygarua: its a gnome thing12:42
hamzaany one knows how i can view tv on ubuntu...my tvcard is already installed12:42
lousygaruapike_: bummer :) thanks12:42
kitchelikwidtek: you can use s3 but there is a unichrome driver not sure if it's installed by default or not12:42
MilitantPotatoHamz there's a program for that12:42
nickrudOrraj, the short answer is that all known drivers are already in the kernel, you don't have to install drivers. And the ones that aren't aren't easy to install12:42
dissectionNigelS: And btw I was referring to those who could steal remotely, not someone who has physical access12:42
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pike_lousygarua: what are you trying to do it is easy enough to do from command line12:42
likwidtekkitche s3 didnt work how do I get unichrome installed?12:42
likwidtekVT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video12:42
geniimetalfan: Ah, OK, sorry. Gentoo is not my usual thing. For runlevels I would normally just use init then12:43
hamzaany one knows how i can view tv on ubuntu...my tvcard is already installed12:43
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NigelSdissection: Yes I know, what I said was referring to that12:43
MilitantPotatoWeird12:43
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MilitantPotatoI wonder why it's not working..12:43
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nickrud!es | sergiol12:43
ubotusergiol: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:43
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lousygaruapike_: actually what i wanted to do is add a menu item to fluxbox for "run application", without opening a shell in fluxbox12:43
kitchehamza: install a tv tuner application12:43
vox754likwidtek, you need the "via" driver. It is included.12:43
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Orrajnickrud so if it doesn't plug and play....im out of luck12:43
geniimetalfan You want certain tty to always run at certain runlevels ?12:43
hamzakitche i have tvtime but nothing happens on that ...it opens with a blue screen and then closes itself12:44
sergioli have a computer with spanish keyboard and i want to get answer to this question: where can i write the tilde character with no character below it?12:44
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nickrudOrraj, not entirely, but in general. What do you need a driver for? (and please don't say winmodem :)12:44
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sergioli only have  key marked on my keyboard12:44
Jay123Hello I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 today and I am having MAJOR! booting problems can someone please help me?!12:45
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neil-Jay123, define major booting problems?12:45
likwidtekvox754 thanks12:45
neil-Give details, and someone will help12:45
Jay123OK12:45
hamzzzzkitche i have tvtime but nothing happens on that ...it opens with a blue screen and then closes itself12:45
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Orrajnickrud: its for a Ethernet card. and it said the disk had the linux drivers on it but its been out smarting me12:45
MilitantPotatoIs anyone familure with desklets?12:45
Jay123I put the live CD in then waited for it to load.... then clicked install waited for it to install the whole OS then restarted once it finished now it says its missing hard drive12:45
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vox754likwidtek, what motherboard is that? You have to beware that there are problems with that driver and 3D.12:46
carl_How can I repair "broken packages"?12:46
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carl_"Could not apply changes!12:46
nickrudOrraj, what kind of ethernet card? Linux supports a huge number of them12:46
Jay123It will only boot if the CD is in the drive12:46
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vecinaHow do you put a password on an archive file?12:46
Jay123Otherwise after my BIOS boots it says no operating system12:46
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MilitantPotatoJay did you install it to the drive?12:46
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carl_Easy Ubuntu reports error: "Fix broken packages first."12:47
vox754likwidtek, here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-via/+bug/4315412:47
MilitantPotatoThere's a shortcut on your desktop12:47
Orrajnetgear12:47
dissectionNigelS: Sorry if I seem to be coming back to the same question. But so far as far as the explaination I've received goes, the problem with creating a root account is the user's own irresponsibility, i.e., using a simple password, more or less the same from the user pass, or typing a command that could delete important files, or staying logged in as root, etc. So is it basically the user's behaviour that could result in compromising the system's security or12:47
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Jay123I installed it to my hard drive...12:47
Orrajnickrud netgear12:47
samwizewhat write method does infrarecorder require for burning an ISO?12:47
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sabgentondo u need to have joliet suport for some cd to work?12:47
[Neurotic] Heya everyone - is there any reason anyone can think of that would cause a network dropout when using vncviewer to access another ubuntu machine over a wireless network? (and it's just this machine, any other machine is fine)12:47
sabgentonor do u just  get shorten file names12:47
Jay123I partitioned my whole hard drive which had XP on to load Ubuntu with it12:48
nickrudOrraj, if you type lspci in a terminal, it'll give you a line about your ethernet card. paste *just that one line* here12:48
Wolfpawshai. Have a question; how do you disable xscreensaver?12:48
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carl_apt-get fix-broken-packages ???12:48
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nickrudcarl_, apt-get install -f      first12:48
Jay123so does anybody know how to fix my issue?12:48
Cubeymeh, how do you kill a process that won't die? aMule froze just trying to set it up for use and the process is in a 'zombie' state and won't end/die when killed12:48
NigelSdissection: well to return to the question I originally asked; the issue is whether a seperate root pw is better, the same or worse than having 1 acct and using sudo.  It's not about one mechanism being flawed, it's about whether, in the final analysis, there is any actual difference12:48
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carl_ nickrud Thanks12:48
Orrajnickrud okay might take me a second12:49
CubeyI tried 'kill' as well via console with it's PID12:49
nickrudOrraj, np, I'll be around for about an hour12:49
dissectionNigelS: Is it possible to set a different password for sudo commands?12:49
NigelSdissection: so it might be the user's behaviour, it might not be, but I don't think it's the determinant factor in the design decision12:49
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Cubeynor can I reopen it due to the stuck process12:49
dissectionNigelS: I think its using the same password thats bothering me :D12:49
vox754Jay123, that is a documented issue you can find in web pages. The short remedies is to unplug all hard drives, reset the BIOS memory CMOS. And plug the drives setting a different mode for them in the BIOS.12:49
duski remember seeing an experimental alternative to fglrx, but forget the name12:49
clawtrosavivo12:50
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NigelSdissection: sudo invokes an account so it is not a seperate function in that sense and so, afaik, you can't distinguish nope12:50
Jay123i looked all over for the answer12:50
Cyber_Stalker!mp312:50
elmo40WinAmp not running12:50
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cripplerI just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?12:50
cripplerI just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?12:50
zunhi12:50
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NigelSdissection: Yes, I see that, but as I was saying above, is it really any less/more secure?  In what situation could you gain one password and not the other unless security was already lax?12:50
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NigelSdissection: if it was poor then the kind of user who sets a weak pw would, if presented with 2 accts they must think of pw for set weak ones, poss weaker, in both cases12:51
Jay123vox754, your saying dissect my computer and reset the bios (how) then replug it back in?12:51
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clawtroscrippler, assuming the driver works - sometimes the mixer volume defaults to zero12:51
vox754dissection, one of the advantages of using sudo is that you do not have to remember a different password. Most probably you can change that behavior but you may need to hack into the documentation yourself.12:51
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NigelSdissection: if the user sets strong pws then they will set a strong pw in both case and because of the hash-computaton time, the search-time for a search space of 8 characters will be large beyond feasible calculation in almost all cases12:51
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cripplerclawtros, yes i realize that. it's not. is there a terminal command I can use to reinstall the sound driver or fix it?12:52
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MilitantPotato:(12:52
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Cyber_Stalker"you do not have the decoder required to play this file you may need to install the necisarry plugins" and those plugins would be?12:52
MilitantPotatoCyber12:52
MilitantPotatosearc XMMS12:52
MilitantPotatosearch*12:52
Jay123I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 now when I try to boot off the hard drive it says it's missing an operating system does anybody know where I can get a solution to this problem?12:52
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MilitantPotatoJay, install Ubuntu to the OS :)12:53
CubeyHow do you kill a process that won't die? aMule froze just trying to set it up for use and the process is in a 'zombie' state and won't end/die when killed.12:53
dissectionhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZBA0SKmQy8 <-- lol12:53
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vox754Jay123, yes. The way to reset the BIOS varies among models of motherboards, it could be a button, or you may need to short circuit a few pins wit a jumper cap. This should be explained in your motherboard manual. Or you may browse your model on the web.12:53
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nickrudOrraj, be back shortly12:53
NigelSJay123: describe your hard disk setup to me please12:53
MilitantPotatoalso, make the linux partition /12:53
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cripplerlol12:53
Jay123its just a 20 gig all partitioned for ubuntu12:53
_6StringKng_your hoeless12:53
_6StringKng_hopeless*12:53
NigelSvox754: why on earth would he want to do that?12:53
cripplerprolly right 612:53
likwidtekDUDE12:53
NigelSJay123: there's just the one drive?12:53
_6StringKng_haha, you'll get it12:53
vox754NigelS, well, it worked for me and for others...12:53
cripplerclawtros, yes i realize that. it's not. is there a terminal command I can use to reinstall the sound driver or fix it?12:53
likwidtekthis is way complicated12:53
Cyber_StalkerMilitantPotato: should i sudo apt-get xmms?12:53
Jay123YES12:53
MilitantPotatoCyber, you can12:53
cripplerI just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?12:53
MilitantPotatoor go to Applications then Add/Remove12:54
Cyber_Stalkerok12:54
likwidtekisn't there an easier way to change my driver to the VIA instead of VESA without having to go through the entire xorg configurator?12:54
MilitantPotatotype XMMS into the search bar12:54
Cyber_Stalkeris xmms a player or the necissary plugins?12:54
MilitantPotatoplayer12:54
MilitantPotatoIt's basically winamp12:54
likwidtekisnt there a conf file I can just change to VIA12:54
Cyber_Stalkergrr12:54
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Cyber_Stalkerdoing and upgrade lol cant access synaptic12:54
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MilitantPotatobummer :(12:54
zunaptitude works?12:55
MilitantPotatoCan anyone help me with desklets12:55
MilitantPotatoPlease? :)12:55
Cyber_Stalkeru know how many times i have ctrl - c'ed this upgrade lol12:55
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Jay123I'm just going to download XP again and use it because im not going to risk bricking my computer messing with the bios just to get a stupid operating system to work12:55
NigelSvox754: it just seems like an odd solution12:55
vox754likwidtek, it is called "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" very easy, just change one line.12:55
zunwhat's wrong with your box jay?12:55
MilitantPotatoJay are you sure you partitioned the HD right?12:55
neil-likwidtek, /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:55
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Jay123I only have 1 HD12:55
MilitantPotatoIf you didn't set the main drive bootable your bios won't load it12:55
Jay123it says theres not operating system12:55
NigelSvox754: what's the exact bug here?12:56
MilitantPotato1 HD yea12:56
cripplerI just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?12:56
MilitantPotatobut you need at least two partitions12:56
Jay123why12:56
MilitantPotatoMain linux, and a swap12:56
MilitantPotatohave you read the setup instructions?12:56
vox754NigelS, I know. But when you are desperate you take those decisions and then wonder why you wasted and entire day doing other LBA stuff.12:56
Cyber_Stalker!dual boot12:56
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)12:56
NigelSJay123: did you let it auto-partition?12:56
Jay123I just did what the live CD told me12:56
likwidteklol nm xorg.conf12:56
likwidtekheh12:56
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Jay123yea12:56
likwidtekyay thanks guys12:56
Jay123I partitioned the whole entire drive12:56
AaronMTHi, how can I update Firefox to 2.0.0.5?12:57
twocarlo_lol12:57
MilitantPotatoSo I'm SOL on getting help with desklets?12:57
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NigelSJay123: You've checked the BIOS to make sure it now wants to boot from the HD and not just the CD?12:57
Jay123yes12:57
twocarlo_well jay ubuntu needs a linux partition and swap partition12:57
Jay123HD first floppy second cd drive third12:57
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cripplerI just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?12:58
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Jay123why didnt the live cd take care of that12:58
likwidtekok!  I think its running the via driver now.  I no longer get a white screen when i try to enable desktop effects12:58
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NigelStwocarlo_: it should at least find GRUB before it realises there's no swap and in any event linux can use a swap file it's just a crap way of doing it12:58
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likwidteknow it says "cannot enable desktop effects"  hahaha12:58
likwidtekARGH!12:58
geniiJay123: When you do from a terminal off the livecd: sudo fdisk -l     can you pastebin the result of that command?12:58
likwidtekany ideas?12:58
crimsuncrippler: I need your `lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/card*/codec*` pastebinned.12:58
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Orrajnickrud: need help with some complications....12:58
NigelSJay123: it almost certainly did unless you overrode it12:58
twocarlo_thanks NigelS12:58
Jay123I can't do anything except get into the live cd12:58
Jay123so if the partitioned arent the problem then what is12:59
MilitantPotatoWhen I try to enable desktop effects I get this message: "The Composite extension is not available"12:59
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geniiJay123: grub (bootloader) may not have installed properly12:59
Jay123whats the solution?12:59
NigelSJay123: your BIOS is complaining that it can't find a boot loader, this is odd, and we need more info to work out what's going on, following genii's instructions to begin with would be good12:59
metalfanMilitantPotato, its should be described in the howto you read12:59
Cyber_StalkerMilitantPotato: have you tried #ubuntu-effects12:59
twocarlo_you can use gparted12:59
Cyber_Stalker?/j #ubuntu-effects01:00
twocarlo_jay123:you can use gparted01:00
NigelSJay123: normallt you see that error if, for example, the BIOS can't find a bootable drive - i,e, it is set to boot off floppy/CD but there is no such disc availab le01:00
vox754likwidtek, I told you to look up for the related bug. The VIA module will not work with most 3D, and that includes desktop effects, because the module is not perfect. I suggest you buy a separate video card if you want visual goodies. Blame VIA.01:00
Jay123I don't even know how to get into the terminal i've never used linux before01:00
MilitantPotatoYea cyber, no-one answered.01:00
geniiJay123: Other possibles: grub installed to hda# partition instead of just hda master boot record.01:00
cripplercrimsun, can you message me on AIM @ crippler3421 or here01:00
Cyber_Stalkerlol just keep trying :D01:00
NigelSJay123: we will tell you01:00
Cyber_Stalkerthey do eventually01:00
NigelSJay123: are you in linux atm with the live cd?01:00
crimsuncrippler: why?01:00
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nickrudOrraj, what's that?01:00
cripplernvm01:00
Jay123no im on xp on another computer01:00
lousygaruadoes thunderbird + gmail + smtp works on ubuntu? i can only  get pop to work and i've tried many online guides. is it a bug? or am i missing someting?01:01
Orrajnickrud i did the cmd u told me to do and the ethernet info isnt right01:01
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NemesisDgreat, i just installed ubuntu on this machine using the alt install disc, the installation went through without any problems, and now when i boot, grub loads and then the screen goes black and just hangs there01:01
nickrudOrraj, it's what the card itself reports01:01
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syntaxxi have a problem in my cups server.. when someone pauses the printer on their client all other queue is paused anyone know how to fix that?01:02
martyncould someone please tell me how to upgrade firefox 2.0.0.4 to 2.0.0.5?01:02
NigelSJay123:if you could boot into linux on the affected machine we can see if there's info on it that will help01:02
Orrajnickrud why would a netear card say realtek?01:02
metalfanNemesisD, press esc wgen grub starts and choose safe mode, then you can rectify the situation01:02
nickrudOrraj, probably because that's the chip it uses01:02
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NemesisDwow nm it just finished booting01:02
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NemesisDit really shouldn't take 5 minutes to boot given the hardware01:02
Jay123Can you tell me a general solution to my problem that will fix it, because it takes forever for that live cd to load01:02
NemesisDunless its the hard drive, its quite old01:02
AaronMTHi, how can I update Firefox to 2.0.0.5?01:02
likwidtekvox754 oh i am sorry I didn't read that01:03
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vox754NigelS, he cannot boot under any circumstances. After the POST the single error "not Operating system found" or something appears. This is a known problem.01:03
vox754likwidtek, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-via/+bug/4315401:03
likwidtekyeah I will prolly get another vid card01:03
likwidtekthanks man01:03
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zunit's in firefox's help menu ... help -> check for updates01:03
twocarlo_jay123: you have to buy another cdrom01:03
Jay123no no no01:03
AaronMTZun, it's greyed out01:03
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Orrajnickrud okay makes sense  : ethernet controller: realtek semiconductor CD. Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139 C+01:03
zuntry help -> about, which version is it01:03
crimsunAaronMT: we disable it, because we handle updates separately.01:04
AaronMTZun, 2.0.0.401:04
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twocarlo_jay123:well it happened to me too, thats what i did01:04
Orrajnickrud (rev 10)01:04
NigelSvox754: can you link to some particular bug please then? Because OS not found is an extremely generic problem and means simply that, so what's the actual bug with the installer and GRUB that's causing that?01:04
Jay123The cdrom works fine it boots to it01:04
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zunAaronMT, are you on a liveCD or any other read-only variant?01:05
nickrudOrraj, ok, now type lsmod | grep 8139too  ; you should get back a line or two01:05
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AaronMTcrimsun, what is the proper method?01:05
vox754NigelS, it is not an Ubuntu bug. It seems to be like a BIOS, motherboard, static electricity bug. Let me browse.01:05
twocarlo_jay123:can you enumerate your problem please01:05
zunaha01:05
AaronMTzun: no, normal regular install01:05
crimsunAaronMT: wait for it to appear in $release-security01:05
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kitchevox754: OS not found means the bios can not find an OS to boot01:05
Jay123I installed 7.04 and now it says theres no operating system found01:05
NigelSvox754: sounds like hocus pocus to me; the people resetting their BIOS had prob left the target HD out of the boot list and when they reset their BIOS it defaulted to including it01:05
NigelSvox754: they they ascribe the reset to fixing it01:06
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martynit's possible to download Firefox 2.0.0.5 but how do you upgrade01:06
NigelSJay123: boot into linux and connect to IRC from there please, then we can try and work out what's going on;  OS not found implies the bootloader wasn't installed properly or the BIOS isn't looking for it correctly01:06
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kbrosnanmartyn: wait for ubuntu to ship the update themselves01:07
Orrajnickrud 8139too 27648 0 ( line break ) mii 6528 2 8139cp,8139too01:07
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Jay123if i boot into the live cd will you help me01:07
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NigelSJay123: the people here will of course try and help, that's what the channel is for01:07
Orrajnickrud can i ask what we are looking at :D?01:08
geniiwork calls, afk 5-7 mins01:08
nickrudOrraj, ok, your ethernet card is recognized, and has loaded the driver: 8139too . So, if you're not getting internet, you have other problems01:08
Jay123alright ill be back hopefully in like 501:08
vox754NigelS, yes, some people do not need to reset the BIOS, some just need to detect again the Hard drive. That is my point. But you are right, we are arguing about the same thing.01:08
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Jay123brb01:08
zundoes anyone have experience getting apache2 and mono to work?01:08
martynkbrosnan: thanks01:08
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zunI checked a number of guides, I got it installed fine but can't get asp files to execute01:08
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_6StringKng_so I"m retarded, how do I update to the latest firefox, lol01:09
_6StringKng_2.0.0.501:09
Orrajokay well thanks for helping me out, I feel like ive learned a bit about drivers. btw is there any reason that the terminal app would restart the comp?01:09
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nickrudOrraj, that lsmod command? it shows all the modules that the kernel has loaded, a lot of those are drivers for hardware you have.01:09
Cyber_Stalkerwhats with this person and using diffrent nicks asking how to update firefox...01:09
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vox754_6StringKng_, maybe enabling backports.01:10
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blizzowAnyone had luck installing Xen with gutsy?01:10
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_6StringKng_ok, and how would I do that01:10
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vox754!backports01:10
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nickrud_6StringKng_, you have two choices: waiting for the update (apparently it's a security one, so it shouldn't be long) or installing the one from mozilla.01:11
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Scrippiehello01:11
AbsenthWhen I enable Beryl, or Compiz as my window manager using the Beryl-manager I lose all of my window borders.  I have the Emerald Theme Manager installed, but it doesn't apper to be loading.  Any suggestions on where I should start?01:11
conorkirkpatrickAbsenth: Your problem was the reason I stopped using Beryl :(01:12
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nickrudAbsenth, I had that problem intermittently (I quit beryl for other reasons) there's a right click menu option reload window decorator that always got borders back for me.01:13
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Orrajanyone know the major company that gave the option of ordering a computer w/ ubuntu preinstalled?01:13
NigelSOrraj: dell has kinda01:13
vox754Orraj, Dell. Visit ubuntuforums.org for more information.01:14
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Absenthnickrud: yeah, somewhere I think there's a config problem, because that doesn't seem to work for me.01:14
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geniiThose dell ubuntu boxes are only available right now in US01:14
NigelSyup, hence the kinda01:14
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NigelSand the story about them seems to change every week01:14
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NigelS"they're cheaper, they're more expensive"01:15
NigelSso who knows :) but Michael Dell uses ubuntu01:15
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reed026You could always but the walmart special and install Ubuntu yourself01:16
reed026buy*01:16
zundoes anyone have experience setting up apache2 and mod-mono? :)01:17
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reed026I do with Apache2 but no mod-mono01:17
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zundarn01:17
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zunI can't get asp to execute...01:17
reed026what are you trying to do with mod-mono?01:17
zunset up an asp dev server01:17
zunbut the .aspx won't execute, of course it doesn't work out of the box, I didn't expect it to but I don't know exactly what else to check01:18
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g0dd3sshai01:18
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reed026zun, maybe this will help : http://www.mono-project.com/Mod_mono#Configuring_Mod_Mono01:18
g0dd3sscan someoone plz recommend me a good gnutella client for ubuntu01:18
zunhmm I've read a nubmer of'em01:19
StavmaNhello, i have a question about ubuntu 7.04 and NTFS. would it slow me down to store on my files on an NTFS partition?01:19
jribg0dd3ss: gtk-gnutella is in the universe repository01:19
soothsayerAnyone know why bchunk on my .bin and .cue file (VCD) gives two isos?01:19
zunah if you're an apache2 buff, I added a virtual directory and no sign of it...01:19
nickrudg0dd3ss, gtk-gnutella01:19
PriceChildg0dd3ss, "apt-cache search gnutella" for a list01:19
jribStavmaN: what kind of files?  like documents and media?01:19
StavmaNexactly01:19
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ShackJackStavmaN: Not appreciably, no...01:19
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StavmaNand would i be able to install linux application on NTFS?01:20
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StavmaNor am i going too far on that one01:20
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reed026hmm I guess I need to pull out my server from the closet and mess around with this.01:20
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Jay123Hey I'm back NigelS01:20
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Ek0nomikis anyone familiar with SSHFS?01:20
reed026I don't have a need for ASP though.. php has always treated me well zun :)(01:20
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SochBatHello Ubuntites01:20
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radiomanhey01:20
Ek0nomikapparently something went wrong with mounting the remote on the local... because this is the permission of my directory:01:21
Ek0nomik?---------  ? ?    ?       ?                ? surreal-fs01:21
jvaihey ppls01:21
Jay123Hey im logged into my Ubuntu 7.04 live cd NigelS you there?01:21
zunfortunate for you :) I have a developer that is very fluent with ASP and we want a thing done as soon as possible, so ASP it is... unfortunately :)01:21
jribStavmaN: the last one sounds like a bad idea because linux relies on permissions a lot and ntfs won't keep track of that01:21
zunand then again I wonder how scalable PHP is...01:21
ShackJackStavmaN: No you'd want your linux apps to be in root with the rest of the stuff and keep your data separate - heck I only have 8GB set aside for ubuntu and apps and  I have plenty of rooms01:21
zunwe're still choosing the database01:21
vox754StavmaN, I think yes, you could install applications in NTFS but you may mess up permissions and stuff. Also your programs won't magically work on Windows if that is what you are thinking.01:21
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StavmaNvox, i wasn't thinking that01:22
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Cyber_Stalkerim bored lol01:22
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StavmaNthank's for the answers guys, you were very helpful01:22
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SochBatanyone know what makes games now display?01:22
reed026With a database you have a lot of different choices, really depends on how much RAM you have zun01:22
NigelSJay123: hi. ok so if you go to apps->accessories->terminal and type fdisk -l01:22
Jay123k hang on01:22
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SochBatnot*01:23
zunyou have any experience with Oracle XE?01:23
zuni couldn't find any benchmarks, the admin module is very slow01:23
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reed026Heh no, I use SQLlite mainly01:23
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zunbut oracle is oracle... the limitations of XE are ok for starters, not worried about that.01:23
vox754Jay123, NigelS http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321626 this applies not only for Windows.01:23
Jay123fdisk -l or fdisk -101:23
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zunwhy sqllite?01:23
Mbantuag'day... has anyone successfully installed freeimage on ubuntu?01:23
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Jay123alright I typed fdisk -1 what info do you need?01:24
reed026I have an older machine and SQL Lite does everything I need it to for development01:24
NigelSJay123: l for list01:24
Cyber_heh!pastebin | Jay12301:24
ubotuJay123: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:24
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StavmaNwhat size would you recommend making my ubuntu partition? i'm currently on livecd, and it pretty much convinced me01:25
NigelSJay123: it should print out a table of partition info and yes, put it on pastebin01:25
zungood enough, ahh... the beauty of minimalistic software... works on the hardware you just happen to have lying around :)01:25
Cyber_hehJay123: once you have done that command go to pastebing and paste the results01:25
Cyber_hehpastebin*01:25
Jay123no fdisk -l doesnt do anythhing01:25
ShackJackJay123: that's sudo fdisk -l01:25
Cyber_heh:)01:25
reed026Yes. That's why I love Ubuntu. Ubuntu Server + Apache + Sql lite = happy developer01:25
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Jay123Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes01:25
Jay123255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders01:25
Jay123Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes01:25
Jay123   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System01:25
Jay123/dev/hda1   *           1        2327    18691596   83  Linux01:25
Jay123/dev/hda2            2328        2434      859477+   5  Extended01:25
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Jay123/dev/hda5            2328        2434      859446   82  Linux swap / Solaris01:25
reed026I have a 97 Gateway E3000 that runs that with 128mb of ram01:25
reed026!flood01:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:26
ShackJack!pastebin | Jay12301:26
ubotuJay123: please see above01:26
zunhehe01:26
Jay123i dont know wwhat that means01:26
Cyber_hehJay123:  we told you to use pastebin01:26
Jay123how01:26
Cyber_hehits so that you dont paste lots of stuff01:26
komodin!pastebin01:26
NigelSzun: google's attitude to oracle is interesting; they prefer to be the master of their own destiny :)01:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:26
StavmaN/q ShackJack01:26
Jay123!pastebin01:26
Cyber_hehgo to that link...01:26
Cyber_hehand then u will see what its about :D01:27
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reed026that's why google loves sudo too, right?01:27
reed026:)01:27
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zunwith a budget like that, I'd prefer that too... and looking at the way things might go or the power they wield, google might just become the master of lots of people's destinies :) (search censorship etc)01:27
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NigelSJay123: in any event back in the terminal type mkdir /tmp/hd && mount /dev/hda1 && cd /tmp/hd01:28
MbantuaIf I need to find freeImage packages, where is a list I could search in?01:28
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Jay123IT says "mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:29
Jay123"01:29
NigelSzun: at lugradio the other week chris dibona made some interesting comments about it; basically buying oracle woulod mean disclosing loads more info than they want, i.e # of CPUs/seats and it costs a fortune; mysql is great01:29
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NigelSJay123: I missed a bit sorry01:29
ShackJackMbantua: aptitude search freeimage ?01:30
Jay123huh?01:30
NigelSJay123:  mount /dev/hda1 /tmp/hd && cd /tmp/hd01:30
zunNigel5, ah disclosing that much info, i see that pov.01:30
NigelSanyone here at guadec atm?01:30
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wdklwkola01:30
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MbantuaShackJack: tried that... didn't bring anything... I thought I could look somewhere else :)01:30
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Jay123OK, now it says "mkdir: cannot create directory `/tmp/hd': File exists"01:31
marchello world :)01:31
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NigelSJay123: you weren;t meant to repeat that bit01:31
Jay123oh ok hang on ill type just that bit01:32
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ShackJack!hi | marc01:32
ubotumarc: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!01:32
SochBathello Marc01:32
Jay123bash: /dev/hda1/tmp/hd: Not a directory01:33
Jay123bash: /dev/hda1/tmp/hd: Not a directory01:33
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StavmaNwhat size is it recommend making an ubuntu partition?01:33
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nikinis there a make command hitch can use multiple CPU-s?01:33
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ctothejhow can i find the mount point of a particular hard drive (that is mounted already) from the command line?01:33
Cyber_hehStavmaN:  not smaller then around 3 or 4 gig01:33
NigelSJay123: did you copy and paste what I wrote or type it out?01:33
Cyber_hehthat just for like the install tho01:33
ShackJackwdklwk: I think you want /join #ubuntu-br01:33
NigelSctothej: type mount01:33
Cyber_hehwill have min space after that :D01:34
Jay123i typed it out01:34
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StavmaNCyber_heh: is 20gb too much?01:34
Cyber_hehnah01:34
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Cyber_hehthis machine im on now is 20gb01:34
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d2leoI was trying to restore a system backup I created, and at the end it says qzip: stdin: unexpected end of file.  does this mean my backup was corrupt?01:34
NigelSJay123: you typed something wrong; type cd /tmp/hd now01:34
Cyber_hehand i have no issues currently :D01:34
carl_I can't seem to run ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin01:34
Cyber_hehlots of space for upgrade to run :D01:34
ctothejNigelS: thanks bro. couldnt have been easier than that01:34
marcgive here a swiss support channel :D ?01:34
Cyber_heh!swiss01:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swiss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
carl_it says  command not found01:35
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Jay123"No such file or directory"01:35
ShackJackStavmaN: I have 10GB and a bunch of stuff and still have 6GB available..01:35
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SlimeyPeteI imagine the closest you'll find to swiss is french or german ;)01:35
StavmaN10 or 20, that's the question :)01:35
SlimeyPete!swiss01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swiss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
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reed026zun maybe if you asked your question on mono-mod's support mailing list they could help you better than we could. http://www.mono-project.com/Need_Help01:35
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marcrofl :D01:35
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marcmy english is in beta ... i can't understand :D01:36
Jay123NigelS, will you private message me so I can read more clearly..01:36
SlimeyPete!french01:36
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StavmaNShackJack: what's your total HD space?01:36
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:36
SlimeyPete!german01:36
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:36
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ShackJackmarc: Join #ubuntu-ch01:36
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SlimeyPeteah, there is one?01:36
Cyber_heh!nvidia01:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:36
ShackJackSlimeyPete: Yep, not very full, though...01:37
reed026I wish they had forums, but I couldn't find anything when searching google. However, you should be sure to give them every thing you can specifically when describing your problems.01:37
marcwow nice .. thank you shackjack01:37
igorgueHi all I'm trying to get my laptop start the live cd of feisty, my computer is a hp dv2550se, the problem is that the live cd don't init... it only show a busybox shell01:37
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ingohai ! can i open a .svg graphic in gimp via plugin !?01:37
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neozenmeep01:37
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Stormx2igorgue: Have you verified the cd image?01:37
ShackJackStavmaN: Well, I have about 40GB on one 80GB drive dedicated to Ubuntu - 9.6 for root and the rest for /home (and 1.5 GB for swap)01:37
igorgueyes01:37
reed026igorgue, did you try to install with the alt cd? Sometimes laptops don't run well with Ubuntu01:37
igorguenop01:38
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CVirusIs /etc/udev/udev.rules present in feisty ?01:38
ingohai ! can i open a .svg graphic in gimp via plugin !?01:38
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neozeningo... we heard you01:39
racvets2ingo, I am not sure Gimp can do svg, but you can get inkscape than can read it from the repos01:39
neozenplease wait for a response01:39
StavmaNShackJack: can my /home be an NTFS partition?01:39
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Stormx2StavmaN: Yep, but why?01:39
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neozenStavmaN: ....it could be.... but not necessarily the best way to skin the cat01:39
NemesisDhi, i have an ubuntu laptop with connectivity to the internet, could i run a cat5 cable from the laptop to another ubuntu machine and get on the internet with that second machine?01:39
ShackJackStavmaN: Ubuntu will not let you format it that way.... it should really be a regular ext3 and you can "leave" another partition for NTFS...01:39
ingoracvets2: thank you01:39
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ShackJackStavmaN: /home stores all your configuration stuff and other things and might be a problem if it were a non-linux filesystem...01:40
StavmaNStormx2: i want to dual boot, and keep my media files accessible for windows01:40
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neozenStavmaN: ok... have a fat32 partition01:40
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Theorythere will almost certainly be problems if /home is on a partition without permission support01:40
Stormx2neozen: Worst idea ever?01:41
StavmaNno good, it won't support DVDR's01:41
ShackJackStavmaN: I do the same thing, all my mp3 are on my windows partition (on another drive) and i access them directly from there... have it bookmarked as "My Music" in Nautilus places for direct access...01:41
Mbantuacan I use a debian package with ubuntu01:41
Stormx2StavmaN: Windows can read ext3 no problem with a 3rd party driver. Takes 5 minutes to set up, max.01:41
neozenStormx2: lol... mine or his?01:41
racvets1Mbantua, yea you can01:41
racvets1just double click it01:41
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racvets1Ubuntu was based on Debian01:41
neozenStormx2: but can it write to ext3 just as easily?01:41
reed026Mbantua, Ubuntu has a Debian Base so they would be compatable01:41
Cyber_heh!flash01:42
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash01:42
NigelSubuntu still is based on debian :)01:42
Mbantuaracvets1: what do mean by doubleclick?01:42
StavmaNShackJack: than why do you need a 40GB partition for linux?01:42
NeoGeo64help.. how do i activate ubuntu01:42
neozenStormx2: and what is the name of this driver?01:42
racvets1if you download the file and find it in the file viewer, then you can double click it01:42
Stormx2neozen: Yours. FAT is old, unjournalled, awful character set, and a limit on file size.01:42
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neozenNeoGeo64: define activate01:42
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Stormx2neozen: I'll find it. It's called IFS or something.01:42
ZambeziDNS is edited i /etc/resolv.conf, but how can I add two statics DNS?01:42
neozenStormx2: true... but can't beat it for os compatibility01:43
NeoGeo64send my computer information to a large database to insure that im using genuine ubuntu01:43
ubutomtvout > ubotu01:43
MbantuaI tried to find libfreeimage3 with aptitude search but couldn't. How can I install a package from a different source?01:43
dissection!ubuntu01:43
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com01:43
ShackJackStavmaN: I have the extra space for stuff i download from Linux, movies, etc... It's just I had the Windows partition already and all my MP3s happen to be on it... and heck 40GB in this day and age ain't that much :)01:43
neozenStormx2: and can this driver do write access to ext3?01:43
Stormx2neozen: It can.01:43
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neozenStormx2: thank you01:43
Stormx2neozen: And that's a small gain over a huge loss.01:43
neozenStormx2: true...01:43
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ShackJackMbantua: You have to find a repository that offers the package, add it to your sources list and then install... Of get source code of package and build your own...01:44
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NeoGeo64Is Ubuntu supported by Microsoft01:44
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Stormx2NeoGeo64: Take a wild guess.01:44
NeoGeo64Windows Vista01:44
neozenNeoGeo64: hell no01:44
MbantuaShackJack: I tried to build it first but ended up with error while I use make01:44
jerkface03lol01:44
CVirusROFL01:44
jerkface03don't feed the troll01:44
NigelSMbantua: if you can satisfy the dependencies you can install anything, checkout package.debian.org and packages.ubuntu.org to see if it's in ubuntu in an upstream version01:44
neozenpotential troll?01:44
vox754neozen, warn the ops!01:44
ShackJackIt's Bill Gates - GET HIM!!!01:44
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NigelSwe're about to be assimilated :(01:45
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Stormx2Calm down, he might be genuinely unsure.01:45
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Stormx2We'll soon see, eh?01:45
NeoGeo64is ubuntu just windows vista with a hacked gui or is it something else01:45
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MbantuaNigelS: I'll do that... thanks01:45
neozenNeoGeo64: no...01:45
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ShackJackYep, Troll :)01:45
Stormx2NeoGeo64: Something else. You can read about it at ubuntu.com!01:45
neozenNeoGeo64: something completely different01:45
kitcheNeoGeo64: it's an operating system called Linux01:45
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Stormx2NeoGeo64: We won't explain it here, please read up at ubuntu.com01:45
zenmonkwhat can you do about the error that says no xclients file is found?  I already added exec gnome-session to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, and tried adding one to home, making sure to chmod +x it01:45
kbrooksI need ideas for my own sites.01:45
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kbrooksAnyone?01:46
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kbrooksthanks.01:46
kbrookser01:46
aldreni can believe about some questions here :~01:46
ShackJackNeoGeo64: Here's another good source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%2901:46
NeoGeo64ok. can i run dx10 on ubuntu01:46
kbrooksI need ideas for my own site. *01:46
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StavmaNthank's for all your help01:46
kbrooksNeoGeo64, no.01:46
kbrooks!lnw01:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lnw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:46
Stormx2kbrooks: Your website?01:46
nickrudkbrooks, a picture01:46
neozenNeoGeo64: no01:46
Jay123Hello I need help here's my situation: I installed Ubuntu 7.04 over XP just today now when I try to boot from the hard drive it says "no operating system" so I can only boot from the live cd which I am using right now .... Can anybody walk me through the steps to get Ubuntu booting off my hard drive please?01:46
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NeoGeo64can i run internet explorer on ubuntu01:46
_RolyI have got an acer aspire 5633 laptop with the intel 3945 wifi chip.  I am running feisty with all packages updated.  The problem is that my wireless network does not appear most of the time when doing a scan (iwconfig eth1 scan), it does sometimes appear.  If I manage to get a connection it just drops after a couple of seconds.  I have got another laptop next to me and this can connect absolutely fine.  Signal strength is about 75%.  Does anyone have any sugges01:46
Stormx2kbrooks: I thought you were op? #ubuntu-offtopic please01:46
kbrooksnickrud, anything else?01:46
neozenNeoGeo64: no directx on linux01:46
ShackJackNeoGeo64: Yes...01:46
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nickrudkbrooks, what's your focus?01:46
Stormx2NeoGeo64: Yes, but its hacky and best to use firefox (as is true on windows, also)01:46
NeoGeo64because i dont like fire fox01:46
kbrooksnickrud, unsure.01:46
neozenNeoGeo64: no.. no IE ...plenty of other browsers out there01:47
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nickrudkbrooks, lots of pictures :)01:47
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vox754_Roly, to identical laptops? one works the other doesn't?01:47
ShackJackneozen: Yes, you actually can run IE on Ubuntu :) - Not IE 7 Thought, AFAIK01:47
Jay123Hello I need help here's my situation: I installed Ubuntu 7.04 over XP just today now when I try to boot from the hard drive it says "no operating system" so I can only boot from the live cd which I am using right now .... Can anybody walk me through the steps to get Ubuntu booting off my hard drive please?01:47
vox754!repeat > Jay12301:47
Stormx2ShackJack: You can run the IE7 rendering engine, but not IE7.01:47
NigelSJay123: you ignored my msg01:47
nickrudkbrooks, I'm at aphroneo.net, that's how sure I am :)01:47
neozen_Roly: is ssid broadcast turned on on your wireless router?01:48
_Rolyvox754: no, the other laptop is a fujitsu running intel 2200 wifi.  I was mentioning it to show that the access point was working correctly01:48
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Stormx2Jay123: Sounds like a bodged grub install.01:48
mike1234im trying to get samba to work, at the moment both linux to linux machines but when i try and access the shared folder in gnome, i get ""homes" couldn't be found. Perhaps it has recently been deleted." any ideas01:48
Jay123nigels01:48
NeoGeo64does windows vista use linux?01:48
_Rolyneozen: yes it is.01:48
Jay123i typed mount and told u01:48
kyjahow do I get mysql setup?? It is installed but I have to create an administrator password right? how ?01:48
Stormx2NeoGeo64: For the last time, read ubuntu.com.01:48
vox754NigelS, still there? How are things with this buddy?01:48
PeloNeoGeo64,  I think you are confused as to what linux is01:48
NemesisDok ive got something seriously wrong with my window manager or something, all, fresh install of ubuntu, it runs fine but i just start a random app like forefox and within 10 seconds the mouse and kb become unresponsive01:48
kliklikDoes anyone know a good eBook reader for ubuntu, something like yBook (which is unfortunately windows only)?01:48
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NemesisDcant restart x with the keyboard or anything01:49
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nickrudkyja, install mysql-admin; it's a gui front end that will ease that setup01:49
Jay123nigels I messaged you back01:49
_Rolykyja: mysqladmin -uroot password <password>    <-- I think that will do it (just going from memory)01:49
neozen_Roly: hmm.. interesting problem01:49
ShackJackJay123: Here's infor on restoring GRUB - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub01:49
NeoGeo64linux is something put on windows rite01:49
kbrooksNeoGeo64, Linux is not Windows.01:49
kbrooksNeoGeo64, No01:49
Stormx2This guy is trolling.01:49
Stormx2Definately.01:49
Stormx2Can we get him kicked?01:49
PeloNeoGeo64,  no, linux is an alternative to windows,  sort of ,  window is an operatiing system, so is linux01:49
kbrooksStormx2, he is askng genuine questions01:49
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kyjaok I will try01:50
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PeloNeoGeo64,  so is dos, so is osx, so is bds, etc01:50
NeoGeo64so to use linux, you dont use windows01:50
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kbrooksStormx2, so no, we cant kicck him01:50
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_Rolyneozen: it is is strange, more so in that there is another wireless network in the area (about 30%) and this network always appears in scans01:50
kbrooksNeoGeo64, you can01:50
kbrooksNeoGeo64, with vmware01:50
Stormx2kbrooks: No, he's not. It's already been explained that a) Ubuntu isn't to do with windows and b) He shouldn't be asking these questions here, he should read up on it.01:50
neozenNeoGeo64: nope... you don't have to have windows01:50
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zenmonkNeoGeo64: you can dual boot like I am01:50
NeoGeo64ok well i will download it01:50
kbrooksNeoGeo64, hold on.01:51
Peloneo,  you don'T need windows if you use linux,  but you can have both on the same machine,  just not running at the same time, generaly,  you can run both at the same time if you want but you will be doing some special stuff to make that happen01:51
kbrooksNeoGeo64, read the site first01:51
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neozenNeoGeo64: ok ... feel free to come back here if you have any issues01:51
osxdude|lapThunder!01:51
kbrooksNeoGeo64, have a look.01:51
aldreni thing that he is kidding with you guys :~01:51
neozenNeoGeo64: its what this channel is here for01:51
Bubbles25I have been having sound problems. I have read through the help stuff on the ubuntu website. I had sound for awhile, but when I was trying to get  sound to come out of my front speaker (my motherboard has built in 7.1 sound) I broke my sound. I don't know how to undo what I did, and I can't find the site again. Now I have no sound at all. I have tried searching for information on ubuntu.com and in google I just can't find anything that will work. Does anyo01:51
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NigelSJay123: I wouldn't have seen it if you haven't registered on freenode01:51
kyjasuper !! thx roly that fixed it. now I can use mysql administrator like the other guy sais.01:51
kyjasaid01:51
osxdude|lapoops sorry wrong channg01:51
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Peloaldren,  kidding or not , we are the nice channel, we answer questions, and donT' abuse the asker01:51
alex_none of my system fonts work, like my title bar shows all boxes instead of "Konversation", anyone know the problem?01:51
jamie_just installed opera web browser now firefox keeps asking my users if they want to import any one know how to stop this please.01:52
_Rolykyja: no problem01:52
ShackJackBubbles25: Open up alsamixer in a terminal window - maybe you muted a channel by mistable?01:52
NeoGeo64i have an old g4 ppc, can it run ubuntu01:52
Stormx2lol mistable :D01:52
kbrooksNeoGeo64, you are downloading a CD image that you have to burn to a blank CD not as a ISO01:52
aldrenPelo, what i wrote wrong ?01:52
Bubbles25ShackJack: no...I have checked that already01:52
SirGrantneo not 7.0401:52
Stormx2Bubbles25: If you can't find help here, try ubuntuforums.org01:52
Bubbles25about 23 times01:52
SirGrantonly older versions01:52
Peloaldren,  you said you thought he was kidding01:52
ShackJackBubbles25: You've turn *off external amplifier?01:52
SirGrant7.04 eliminated PPC support01:52
_RolyDoes anyone have experience with canatonicals commercial ubuntu support in the UK?  Is it worth the price?01:52
kbrooksNeoGeo64, do you understand that?01:52
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NeoGeo64yes01:52
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NeoGeo64apple got all gay and started using intel chips.01:53
kbrooksSirGrant, no, it eliminated official support for PPC01:53
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Bubbles25also...I accidently got rid of my "taskbar" (not sure what it is called in linux...I don't have the bar with all of my windows open anymore01:53
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Bubbles25I have to alt+tab to get to my programs...how do I get it back?01:53
Stormx2Bubbles25: Do you have any gnome panels at all?01:53
Stormx2Bubbles25: If so, right click > add to panel. Task list is under there.01:53
PeloBubbles25,  do you still hve the top one ? right click and add a pannel  then move the new one to the bottom ,  right click on it and add TO pannel01:54
kbrooksBubbles25, it has a show desktop icon, a window panel, workspace switcher, and trash can01:54
_RolyBubbles25: right click on the other panel and select add panel, then add the window switcher to it01:54
aldrenPelo. and i wasn't wront about it, he is kidding01:54
aldren:)01:54
kbrooksBubbles25, it has a show desktop icon, a window panel, workspace switcher, and trash can <<<<<01:54
NeoGeo64Can you use AOL on Linux?01:54
kbrooksBubbles25, you can add these01:54
NemesisDanyone know why in restricted drivers when i check the box to enable this ati accelrated driver it just stays unchecked and not in use?01:54
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kbrooksNeoGeo64, yes, but not the program01:54
PeloNeoGeo64,  I defended you once,  I'm not doing it again01:54
aldrenwront/wrong/g01:54
neozenNeoGeo64: its time to take a look at the faq01:54
kbrooksNeoGeo64, IM yes01:54
Bubbles25kbrooks: yes that is the one01:54
neozenNeoGeo64: most of the questions you're asking are answered there01:55
NeoGeo64ok01:55
NeoGeo64i will read rtfm and stfu01:55
kbrooksNeoGeo64, stfu is bad to say, and we arent telling u to shut up01:55
NeoGeo64yes u r ;(01:55
Stormx2!rtfm | NeoGeo6401:55
ubotuNeoGeo64: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.01:55
ShackJackBubbles25: I dunno if it's too drastic, but maybe uninstall and reinstall alsa packages to restore your sound... aptitude purge alsa && aptitude install -f alsa01:55
Cyber_heh!mouse01:55
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto01:55
kbrooksNeoGeo64, no we arent01:55
NigelSyeah, for those words go to #debian ;)01:56
NeoGeo64heh01:56
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Pelowhat's  jfgi ?01:56
Bubbles25ShackJack: thanks I will try that...is that all of the commands I need?01:56
neozenjust forget it perhaps?01:56
Bubbles25how do I get the panel to appear at the bottom01:56
SirGrantI've never heard jfgi either01:56
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ShackJackBubbles25: Should be, yep... paste on one line (that's what ampersands are for "and")01:56
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trungdunghi01:57
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kbrooksSirGrant, uh, "just ******* get it"01:57
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ShackJackBubbles25: Right click on top panel and select add panel..01:57
Stormx2kbrooks: s/get/google.01:57
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SirGrantoh ok I can see why that is bad lol01:57
kbrooksStormx2, ah ok01:57
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Bubbles25ShackJack: ah...thanks01:57
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alex_can anyone tell me how to repair my system fonts?01:57
ShackJackGoin' to watch TV - be back later....01:57
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ShackJackalex_: Repair? How are they broken?01:58
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Peloalex_,  you want to bet the defaults back ?01:58
kbrooksSirGrant, its not that bad, but saying google it is silly on your part, and wastes  your time later01:58
alex_all i get is boxes01:58
italianninjahello vlc doesnt play divx movies? anyone know why01:58
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rainman62Hello!!01:58
ShackJackalex_: Go to Prefs Fonts and change the fonts there...(?)01:58
Stormx2italianninja: Try #videolan01:59
SirGrantI never said google it01:59
Peloalex_,  in order   3 x  sans 10,  sans bold 10, monospace 10, best render01:59
SirGrantI just said I didn't know what the acronym ment01:59
alex_i tried that but i can't read anything that i'm changing01:59
kbrooksSirGrant, um, i wasnt saying u did01:59
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SirGrantoh ok01:59
trungdungoh01:59
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Jay123I need to do what this page says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub  but every command I type doesn't work can somebody walk me through it?01:59
ShackJackalex_: But you can see fonts in the drop-down menu, no?01:59
PeloAlex-The-ATLien,  if you type it in , it will go to the right one01:59
trungdungi am trung dung01:59
NemesisDok first thing is first then can somebody help me figure out how to share this internet connection i have on this ubuntu machine with another machine via wired lan?01:59
SirGrantoh01:59
alex_no01:59
SirGrantI see wy I was confused01:59
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SirGrantwhen he used ****** I thought that ment it was a swear word01:59
alex_the only fonts that show are ones inside programs02:00
kbrooksSirGrant, it is02:00
trungdungi am initial using ubuntu02:00
kbrooksSirGrant, so i crossed it out02:00
SirGranto02:00
ShackJackalex_: Like menubars and stuff?02:00
Peloalex_,  waht language is your system set to ?02:00
Jay123I need to do what this page says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub  but every command I type doesn't work can somebody walk me through it?02:00
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Bubbles25ShackJack: I am getting an error message it couldn't open two files...they are locked it asked if I was root...so I tried running sudo with it...but that still didn't work?02:00
kbrooks!repeat | Jay12302:00
ubotuJay123: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience02:00
neozenitalianninja: your divx movie is screwed up / not adhering to standards your build of vlc was made to support02:00
italianninjaStormx2: no answer there02:01
alex_english02:01
NigelSJay123: I was trying to earlier; but you weren't typing the commands correctly.  What do you mean the commands don't work?02:01
neozenitalianninja: have you tried other divx compressed videos with vlc?02:01
alex_it happened when i installed trevino's feisty repo and ran upgrade02:01
rainman62I'm having problems installing ubuntu 7.04 and need help02:01
ShackJackBubbles25: Oh, yeah sorry -- sudo just do as two separate command sudo aptitude purge alsa  etc...02:01
Peloalex_,  can you get to the font dialog box in menu >s ystem > prefs ?02:01
Jack_SparrowJay123: What error do you get when you type those commands02:01
neozenrainman62: you've come to the right place02:01
Bubbles25ShackJack: oh ok02:01
Jay123i guess im not typing them I have no idea what the hell im fucking doing man this is the first time I ever used linux02:01
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neozenrainman62: what's your issue02:01
italianninjayeah they dont work02:01
italianninjadont think vlc has the plugin installed02:01
Stormx2italianninja: Idle for a bit. otherwise open up synaptic, find vlc, and install the recommend/suggested packages.02:02
alex_if u can tell me how many items down on the list it is02:02
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kbrooks!language | Jay12302:02
ubotuJay123: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:02
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ShackJackalex_: You can open up your system configuraiton editor and change them by hand -- under desktop->gnome->interface->*_font_name02:02
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rainman62I have 7.04 and 6.1 if installing 6.1 I get the graphic installation but with 7.04 it freeze during the first text boot02:02
NigelSJay123: right, let's start again.  first off let's type sudo -s in the terminal02:02
Peloalex_,  you don'T need to know,   just click anywhere in the list and type  sans02:02
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Stormx2Jay123: Register to services and I'll walk you through it in PMs.02:02
Mbantuais aptitude search automatically using the locations inside sources.list to find packages?02:02
Jack_SparrowJay123: You need to do a few things... watch your language, provide a description other than dosent work and what you did before it stopped working02:03
Peloalex_, it will select the font automaticaly from there, then just it  the apply button , the one on the bottom right , do it for each font02:03
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kitche Mbantua yes if you updated aptitude02:03
Jay123sans bring up a blank line in terminal02:03
Stormx2Mbantua: Yeah. Make sure you run sudo apt-get update   after modifying /etc/apt/sources.list tho :D02:03
neozenrainman62: how's your ram?02:03
Bubbles25ShackJack: it doesn't look like it is changing anything it says 0 for all of the stuff02:03
Jack_SparrowStormx2: Thanks02:03
neozenrainman62: and where does it freeze?02:03
Mbantuakitche: that's it... didn't do that02:03
Jay123I  typed  sans in terminal02:03
rainman62I have about 1.5Gb of ram02:03
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MbantuaStormx2: dito02:03
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ShackJackBubbles25: Maybe you already uninstalled alsa then? Just need to reinstall?02:03
NigelSJay123: after that type mkdir /mnt/hard_disk && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hard_disk02:03
neozenrainman62: also... appending the name of the person you're speaking to in here will help get your question better noticed and answered speedily...02:04
rainman62I need to start 7.04 to tell you exactly whree02:04
NemesisDanyone? directly sharing an internet connection with another computer via lan?02:04
rainman62it's after it dedect the mouse02:04
ShackJackBubbles25: sudo aptitude install -f alsa :)02:04
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Stormx2rainman62: Have you installed it?02:04
PeloJay123,  those instructions weren'T meant for you02:04
Peloafk02:04
rainman62neozen, thanks02:04
Jay123can i just copy and paste that in terminal?02:04
Cyber_Smokewhat version is feisty02:04
neozenrainman62: sticking it at the beginning of what you are saying with a colon or comma works just as well02:04
Cyber_Smoke?02:04
Cyber_Smoke7.0702:04
Stormx2rainman62: Oh nevermind, I misunderstood.02:04
NigelSJay123: if you've done sudo -s yes you can copy and paste02:04
neozenrainman62: when the room starts moving quickly such little things are priceless02:05
rainman62stormx2 no not yet.02:05
Bubbles25ShackJack: I did that too and when I did it still said it didn't install anything. It said 0 packages upgraaded and 0 newly installed02:05
neozenrainman62: have you verified the burn?02:05
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neozenrainman62: try booting the cd and selecting the test cd option02:05
rainman62neozen, yes02:05
ShackJackBubbles25: Umm I dunno - maybe using synaptic manager would be easier for you -- look up alsa...02:05
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neozenrainman62: hmm... interesting02:05
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rainman62noezen, does 7.04 come in graphic install like 6.1?02:05
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Music_ShuffleYes.02:05
neozenrainman62: absolutely02:05
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calugararexcuse me i have a n00b question .... how do i update an ubuntu 5.10 ?02:06
Jay123--ok i typed sudo -s then copy and pasted "mkdir /mnt/hard_disk && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hard_disk" then hit enter and it brought up a new line02:06
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rainman62neozen: hmmm where do I download that. all I got was the text install02:06
neozenrainman62: all one need do is boot the desktop installation cd... and you should get a graphical install02:06
Pelocalugarar,  from 5.10 you would be better off , backing up your /home folder and clean installing 7.402:06
neozenrainman62: you might have gotten the alternate cd by mistake02:06
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neozenrainman62: is the word alternate in the name of the file you downloaded?02:06
Peloalex_,  I block /msg , please talk to me int he channel02:07
Jay123--NigelS, did you see my previous post?02:07
NigelSJay123: ok, now if you could type "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst &" without the quotes and put that on pastebin please02:07
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neozenrainman62: *image02:07
alex_do u know of a way to change it from command line02:07
calugararpelo, and for that i need 2 burn the iso, right ?02:07
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rainman62neozen, hold on let me check02:07
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Peloalex_,  no I donT' sorry02:07
NigelSJay123: sorry scratch that02:07
neozenrainman62: ok... standing by02:07
SirGrantcalugarar ya you would need to download the 7.04 CD from ubuntu.com02:07
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NigelSJay123: i mean-02:07
Jay123to late02:07
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Pelocalugarar,  yes you would need to do that ,but there are other ways to install02:07
calugarardamn it 10x anyway02:08
Pelo!install | calugarar02:08
ubotucalugarar: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate02:08
SirGrantcalugarar I agree it would be easier to back up your data and install then update from your old version02:08
NigelSJay123: ok, now if you could type "gedit /mnt/hard_disk/boot/grub/menu.lst &" without the quotes and put that on pastebin please02:08
italianninjavideolan support room is rubbish02:08
alex_is it possible that my system fonts weren't deleted?02:08
italianninjaeveryone is asleep in there02:08
Mbantuaone step further... now I get an W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1when trying to update with the new source deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free02:08
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neozenitalianninja: ::nods:: quite a few rooms on freenode are that way... monitor the room and someone will notice02:08
Peloalex_, I'm sorry I thought you just changed the font did you delete them ?02:08
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rainman62neozen, yes it did has alternate in the file name02:09
neozenrainman62: ok then02:09
italianninjaneozen: trouble is i want help now lol02:09
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rainman62neozen, I'm downloading a new one02:09
neozenitalianninja: such is life02:10
Pelolater folks02:10
rainman62neozen, thanks, let me get the new file and will go from there.02:10
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rainman62thanks02:10
neozenfarewell pelo02:10
fujinanyone familiar with queus? I'm using static members with priorities like 0,1,2, I assumed that if no one from priority 0 picked it up it would start rining priority 1 also02:10
geniirun apt-get with the --allow-unauthenticated switch to ignore gpg02:10
fujindoh02:10
alex_not sure, it happened when i ran sudo apt-get upgrade, after changing my repos02:10
neozenrainman62: you are most welcome02:10
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rainman62neozen, what irc software do you use?02:10
neozenrainman62: xchat02:10
neozenrainman62: might be xchat202:10
rainman62neozen, is that free, I dld mirc but they want money02:11
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neozenrainman62: absolutely free02:11
rainman62neozen, linux or windows?02:11
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neozenrainman62: version that comes with feisty is 2.8.002:11
neozenrainman62: works on both02:11
iariHey all, How do I set my screen res to 1650 * 1080 ?02:11
kitcheneozen: on windows xchat costs money02:11
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neozenkitche: really? ... never knew that02:12
rainman62neozen, thanks again, will see after the ubuntu is insatalled competely02:12
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xhaankitche, theres a free one02:12
neozenrainman62: you are welcome02:12
kitcheneozen: there is some free versions of it if you wish02:12
rainman62kitche thanks for the warning02:12
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kitchexhaan: yes but not the same xchat :)02:12
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neozenkitche: heh... no worries... I've already drank the kool-aid02:13
iariDoes anyone know how to set wide screen res 1650 * 1080 ?02:13
neozenkitche: am hooked on linux02:13
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Mbantuawhile update apt-get I get a E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Is that a memory issue?02:13
neozeniari: what kind of card do you have?02:13
majnoonok just one question :: how do you make it to FORCE disk check on reboot02:13
majnoon??02:13
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iarineozen: ATI02:14
majnoonok just one question :: how do you make it to FORCE disk check on reboot ?02:14
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MohdPeople, i got another problem. I have installed wine, and used it.02:14
MohdBut i dont see user/.wine file?02:14
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jribmajnoon: sudo touch /forcefsck02:14
neozeniari: does that resolution appear in the possibility list for resolutions?02:14
bruenigMohd, ls ~/.wine02:14
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MohdBruenig: that's a terminal command?02:15
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bruenigMohd, yes02:15
bruenigMohd, it will determine if the file is there or not02:15
neozenguess I'll have to boot my gnome vm..02:15
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iarineozen: No..02:15
majnoontyvm jrib02:15
bruenigMohd, unless it says file not found, it is there02:15
majnoonnow me try it02:15
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neozeniari: are you sure that resolution is supported by your card?02:15
MohdBruenig , it had found few files.02:15
asimcan some1 help me reset my settings?02:16
bruenigMohd, ok so it is there, what do you need with it?02:16
neozeniari: have you properly installed the drivers for your particular card?02:16
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iarineozen: yes, I use it on Windows02:16
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Mohdbruenig , i need to copy and fast Adobe file to it, in order to make Photoshop works in Linux with wine.02:16
asimcan some1 help me reset my settings?02:16
neozeniari: ok... did you install the drivers for your particular card (which model btw?)02:16
iarineozen: Not sure, the system automatically detected it...02:16
MohdBruenig , the problem is, I cant find the .wine file using the explorer?02:16
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neozenasim: reset what settings for which programs?02:17
asimam having problems with my firefox mozilla02:17
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neozenasim: ah...02:17
bruenigMohd, oh you were using the file explorer, I get so used to terminal, you need to do ctrl + h to show hidden files02:17
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MohdBruenig , thanks alot, really appreciated.02:17
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asimi cant play any divx videos02:17
iarineozen: TI Mobility Radeon X60002:18
asimi tried installing other applications02:18
neozeniari: ah...02:18
iarineozen: TI = ATI02:18
asimbut it would only try to access a wrong path for my totem player02:18
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neozenwho's got a mobility radeon x600?02:18
neozen.....drat.... don't all raise your hands at once now....02:19
Bulli<--x70002:19
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yokomoQ: can I change which wifi network I connect to based on mac address of AP?02:19
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asimcan any1 help02:19
asim?02:19
bruenigyokomo, you mean instead of specifying essid, to specify the mac address?02:19
jordan_Hi guys, I really need help with my ubuntu machine -- hooking it up to my HD TV with component cables02:19
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rainmannozen, just want to say that I dld xchat for windows and it's free02:19
danielbwgenii: I thought amd owned ati02:19
yokomoyes, the essid's are the same02:19
asimhow to reset my ubuntu settings?02:20
yokomothey are both linksys02:20
yokomobut I want to connect to the "legal" one02:20
bruenigyokomo, iwconfig INTERFACE ap MACADRESS02:20
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bruenigADDRESS*02:20
neozenasim: sudo apt-get reinstall firefox at the command line02:20
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bruenigneozen, sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox02:20
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geniidanielbw: Yeah they do now. Oddly no open source drivers yet however02:20
bruenig!info firefox02:21
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.4+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9012 kB, installed size 28592 kB02:21
neozenbruenig: thanks.... used to aptitude02:21
asimi did02:21
asimi removed it from the package manager02:21
asimand then installed it again02:21
asimits not helping02:21
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bruenigyokomo, oh you need sudo for that command02:21
jordan_Anyone help with xorg.conf and TV-out?02:21
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neozenasim: did you delete the .mozilla/firefox folder in your root directory?02:21
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bruenig!tvout | jordan_02:21
ubotujordan_: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)02:21
asimno02:21
yokomobruenig, figured02:21
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neozenasim: do that first02:21
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asimwhere do i find that folder?02:21
danielbwgenii: ATI has bad drivers all around02:21
neozenasim: get to a terminal02:22
asimahan02:22
asimthen02:22
neozenasim: and type rm -r .mozilla/firefox02:22
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iarineozen: Any ideas ?02:22
neozeniari: you probably need to install the driver for your card to support resolutions like that02:22
natbethow do I change screens? (I have screen 0 as my twinview setup, and screen 1 as my tv02:23
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asimwait02:23
asimlemme uninstall it again02:23
neozeniari: looking for a good tutorial for you02:23
neozenasim: ok02:23
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jribasim: note you lose all your bookmarks too02:23
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iarineozen: Thanks! :)02:23
NigelSasim: installing/reinstalling the package will leave intact your config files02:23
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NigelSasim: you have to purge the package to remove configs02:24
jribnatbet: hmm, I think i just drag my mouse to the edge of the screen and keep going.  Does that work for you?02:24
kevinl--Question: Is it possible to configuire nsswitch.conf so that only a certain application can authenticate to it via libpam-mysql?02:24
kbrooksum02:24
natbetjrib: no, it doesn't show up on my tv02:24
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natbetjrib: the desktop doesn't even show up, it's like it isn't sending out a signal02:24
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jribnatbet: ah, that's different.  Are you using nvidia?  Did you ever have it working?02:25
asimhow do i purge it?02:25
jribasim: sudo aptitude purge PACKAGE02:25
jrib!apt > asim (see the private message from ubotu)02:25
natbetjrib: yup, it's an nvidia card with the driver from the ubuntu repository02:26
bruenigpurging firefox is pointless02:26
asimthen?02:26
asimwat to do02:26
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NigelSasim: but in any event the instruction that neozen gave you would get rid of the config too02:26
jribnatbet: how did you set it up?  Did you edit xorg.conf by hand or use nvidia-settings?02:26
asimmmmm02:26
bruenigpurging firefox doesn't get rid of the configuration02:26
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neutralesalve a tutti02:27
jrib!it | neutrale02:27
ubotuneutrale: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:27
natbetjrib: I tried using nvidia-settings, I haven't tried it by hand yet02:27
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cjehi,02:27
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jribnatbet: k, did you run nvidia-settings with sudo so that it could write the changes to xorg.conf?02:27
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kbrooksbruenig, you mean user settings, in that case you are correct02:27
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natbetjrib: yup02:28
cjeoops, is there a script command to find out what version of ubuntu is installed on my machine?  Thanks02:28
jribnatbet: k, and restarted X?02:28
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jrib!version > cje (see the private message from ubotu)02:28
bruenigkbrooks, that is all the configuration that firefox has, firefox is nothing more than an extracted directory with a symlink put in /usr/bin02:28
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natbetjrib: the changes are in the xorg.conf, but when I run nvidia-settings again, the tv always shows up as disabled02:28
bruenigit probably ought to be in /opt02:28
asimgive me a command to install mozilla02:28
natbetjrib: yup, I've restarted X02:29
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Tophe1Hey, can anyone suggest what factors might be making Ubuntu run slowly on my Inspiron laptop? 512MB RAM, 2 GHz proc - but lesser laptops run Beryl etc. better and I don't know why. Hard disk space? Video card?02:29
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neozenasim: sure you don't mean firefox?02:29
cjejrib: thanks!02:29
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bruenigTophe1, video card is the most important aspect of running beryl, hard disk shouldn't factor in at all02:29
AzMoo[w] Hey, how can I find out what version of kerberos I'm using?02:29
neozen!iceweasel02:29
ubotuIceweasel's homepage is http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ with more detailed information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel02:29
bruenig!info kerberos02:29
ubotuPackage kerberos does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:29
bruenigAzMoo, what is that02:30
jribnatbet: hmm, try pastebinning your xorg.conf and explaining the problem again to the channel.  I'll take a look, but I don't know much about it.  nvidia-settings "just works" for me02:30
Tophe1OK. If I install extra progs, will that affect performance or not so much?02:30
asimi mean firefox only02:30
asimsorry02:30
iarineozen: I think a good tutorial.. thanks. I'll let you know if it solved the problam02:30
AzMoo[w] bruenig: it's an authentication protocol.02:30
AzMoo[w] !krb-user02:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about krb-user - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:30
natbetok02:30
bruenig!info krb-user02:30
AzMoo[w] !info krb-user02:30
ubotuPackage krb-user does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:30
neozeniari: ok... sorry ... lots on my plate right now02:30
AzMoo[w] :\02:30
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bruenigAzMoo, figure out what its name is first02:30
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jribasim: sudo aptitude install firefox    please take a look at the page ubotu sent you in a private message02:30
sldkfjTophe1, 'affect' in what aspect?02:30
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AzMoo[w] !info krb5-user02:31
ubotukrb5-user: Basic programs to authenticate using MIT Kerberos. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.4-5ubuntu3.1 (feisty), package size 121 kB, installed size 312 kB02:31
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sldkfjTophe1, best place for help with Beryl is #Beryl02:31
bruenigTophe1, that is a poor question, installing applications does not inherently have any effect as an application is just files on your hard drive, running different apps obviously use resources and so depending on the application if you are running it, it will slow down the system, see azureus02:31
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Tophe1"Affect" like, Beryl runs slowly and jerkily with effects that run smoother and higher FPS on, for example a Dell Latitude (newer) with half the RAM and half the processor.02:31
Tophe1I suspect it's my video card :-( that's pretty un-fixable right?02:32
bruenigTophe1, the biggest aspect is video card02:32
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bruenigTophe1, in fact beryl hardly touches my ram or cpu02:32
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natbethttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30393/ here's the pastebin of my xorg.conf02:32
KingPythonis anybody know a program convert a directoy(include .html files) to chm format?02:32
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daniberghi guys, I'm using ubuntu feisty and having some hard time to connect via wirelles. well, the problem now is only with the connection. can someone point me a direction?02:32
Tophe1hmm... does anyone know if there is anything I can do to "upgrade" or "tweak" my video card then?02:32
bruenigKingPython, chm is proprietary isn't it?02:33
sldkfjTophe1, what manufacture made your card?02:33
neozendaniberg: well... what kind of card do you have?02:33
Tophe1I never thought about it in Windows. The thing is, not only Beryl runs slowly. It's other progs too.02:33
unagianyone running avant window navigator02:33
simpleHI need some help, my nvidia software isn't saving the configuration properly to /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:33
Tophe1It's an Intel chipset 82845G video card from a pretty old model.02:33
bruenigunagi, you must really love that dock, you have been hacking away at it for at least a week02:33
danibergwell, I did configure it with ndiswrapper02:33
unagibruenig: no i havent02:33
daniberg802.11b/g02:33
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neozenTophe1: hmm.... yeah.. might not have the horsepower necessary for beryl02:34
danibergI can see the account listed02:34
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unagiyou can disagree all you want to but i havent messed with awn for over 2 weeks02:34
KingPythonbruenig: proprietary?02:34
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sldkfjTophe1, best place for help with Beryl is #Beryl  .......... they will also help with video cards ........ but if I were you, I'd visit #compiz-fusion it's a better program02:34
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kbrooksdoes the text "http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/images/code.php" show 7995 for you?02:34
Tophe1It's just that other people have talked about how fast Ubuntu in general (and specifics like Beryl) runs with similar models and I'm trying to figure out if I am fated to slowness, or if I have done some configuration wrong.02:34
kbrookser02:34
sldkfjand eyecandy just like Beryl02:34
danielbwchm = compiled help markup?02:34
bruenigKingPython, chm is a microsoft format I thought02:34
neozendaniberg: ...that's not a manufacturer... that's the protocol...02:34
danibergbut I can see from windows that the conection is wap-psk02:34
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kbrooksdoes the image "http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/images/code.php" show 7995 for you?02:34
KingPythonbruenig: yes but its so common02:35
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Tophe1Really - Compiz is better than Beryl? Which is less demanding on resources, do you think?02:35
bruenigKingPython, but it is compiled I mean, I am not saying something exists or not but the format would have to have been reversed engineered02:35
kbrooksTophe1, compiz-fusion = compiz + beryl02:35
danibergwell, I have an acer aspire 310002:35
KingPythonbruenig: but if you know a format like chm on linux you can advice to me02:35
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sldkfjTophe1, there is a guy that has eyecandy running on cards with 32megs of ram02:35
wesolekhello everybody :) I've got a tiny problem, does anybody know where on my ubuntu I can find bittorrent? It says it's installed but I can't find it anywhere :(02:35
sldkfjTophe1, compiz-fusion02:35
iarineozen:  sudo aticonfig -initial                Warning: Could not find configuration file                   Please copy configuration file template to /etc/X11      ??02:35
neozendaniberg: well.. that's the laptop model... but I'll see what card came in it by default02:36
NigelSthere's a CHM reader in linux so someone clearly understands the format02:36
Tophe1!? So I guess cards *are* important then.02:36
unagianyone use AWN?02:36
neozeniari: oucheee02:36
KingPythonbruenig: a lot of program on linux read it but now create a new one02:36
bruenigdoc was reverse engineered so it is certainly possible, but even the doc reverse engineer is not completely the same and chm is not as important as that02:36
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iarineozen: What conf file /02:36
rubenhi all. i was wondering, what kind of widget utils can i use in fluxbox?02:36
Tophe1Is Compiz-Fusion MORE demanding on resources or LESS demanding on resources than Beryl? Or about the same?02:36
neozeniari: I honestly can't help you much w/ the ati driver.... never configured an ati card actually02:36
bruenigTophe1, #ubuntu-effects02:36
asimguyz02:36
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jribnatbet: well one thing that looks strange is that the videocard is listed twice, but I'm not sure if it is actually not supposed to look like that.  Why don't you try enabling the screen but not using twinview?  There is some option that just works without requiring you to restart X02:36
neozeniari: using an intel 950 here02:36
Tophe1OK, thanks02:37
bruenigTophe1, you need a decent graphics card with 3d, that is the only real issue02:37
asimi cant see the media configuration option in my firefox02:37
asimhow to get that?02:37
danibergneozen, ok... In fact the problem is with the connection02:37
sldkfjTophe1, compiz fusion is in a place that it's trying to not have the card matter.02:37
neozeniari: I'm sure someone here can help you out with that02:37
iarineozen: :) 10x anyway..02:37
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danibergsince the wireless card seems to be fine after ndiswrapper02:37
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natbetjrib: ok, I'll try that02:37
sldkfjTophe1, compiz fusion is the current project, and uses less resources02:37
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AzMoo[w] So there's been a couple of vulnerabilities found in kerberos and it needs to be updated. What's the process for that with Ubuntu packages?02:38
bruenigAzMoo, if it is in the repos, it will show up in update manager, if not then it hasn't been updated, you can get the new version from source and compile if you like02:39
NigelSAzMoo[w] : the security team will patch and push it out through the security repo02:39
wesolekcan anybody tell me where to find bittorrent on my ubuntu? I'm lost if there is no icon :(02:39
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bruenigwesolek, it is only launched when opening a .torrent file02:39
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AzMoo[w] NigelS: do they need to be notified or is it something they'll pick up?02:40
bruenigwesolek, the default one that is, there are other clients out there02:40
neozenAzMoo[w] : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade02:40
asimi cant see the media configuration option in my firefox02:40
simpleHwhen installing nvidia-glx through synaptic package manager, should I use nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx02:40
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asimhow to get that?02:40
asimcan someone help?02:40
neozenAzMoo: run that in a terminal02:40
bruenig!repeat | asim02:40
ubotuasim: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience02:40
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wesolekbruening :) thanks, I installed bittornado (or something like this) and also can't find it... I can't even find 3dchess that I additionally installed :(02:40
AzMoo[w] neozen: yes, I know, there isn't an update yet. I was looking for information about the process of update creation rather than actually updating. Thanks though.02:41
wesolekbruenig02:41
andrew_I can't load music onto my iPod from any application, but I can take it off and play off of it, an ideas?02:41
wesoleksorry02:41
bruenigwesolek, well you can alwayd dpkg -L packagename02:41
LouisvilleLIPNeed help with laptop wireless, can see network but can't connect02:41
neozenAzMoo: ahh... you want to make a new package02:41
bruenigto see where it puts stuff02:41
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sldkfjasim ???  Edit - Preferences - Content - Filetypes  ???02:41
bruenigLouisvilleLIP, is it unencrypted?02:41
neozenAzMoo: I'm sure such an effort is already underway... I'm sure they're happy to have help02:42
LouisvilleLIPbruenig: yes, for now02:42
NigelSAzMoo[w] : if you know about it , they certainly will, how fast they are in incorporating the patch I can't say02:42
wesolekthanks, bruenig... is there a way of creating an icon in my "menu start"?02:42
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bruenigLouisvilleLIP, ok well try doing "sudo iwconfig INTERFACE essid THESSID" then doing "sudo dhclient"02:42
sldkfjasim, outside of that I'm not sure what is meant by 'media configuration'02:42
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bruenigwesolek, yes you can create a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications, look at the others in that directory to get an understanding of what that looks like02:42
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andrew_I can't load music onto my iPod from any application, but I can take it off and play off of it, anyone have an idea?02:42
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bruenigLouisvilleLIP, sudo dhclient INTERFACE*02:43
asimthere used to be an option in my firefox02:43
LouisvilleLIPmy router sees my laptop too, but I get nothing when I start firefox02:43
neozen!ipod02:43
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod02:43
asimwhere i could select different programs to run different types of media02:43
crysalysgot a feisty problem, anyone running Feisty on VMware 6?02:43
neozenandrew_: look into rockbox02:43
bruenigasim, nobody has any idea what you are talking about when you say media configuration, content was what I was guessing but you seem to say something else02:43
asimin the 'Tools' menu02:43
LouisvilleLIPbruenig: no such device02:43
bruenigcontent>filetype02:43
wesolekthanks bruenig, it was very nice of you :)02:43
andrew_alright thanks02:44
bruenigLouisvilleLIP, what is the name of your INTERFACE02:44
neozenandrew_: I think rockbox will make your ipod be just a hard drive able to play files you just load onto it when its in drive mode02:44
maxagazFrom Feisty, how can I delete a drawer that is on the HFS+ partition of my MacBook ?02:44
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LouisvilleLIPbruenig: sorry, not sure how to answer that.  How do I find out?02:44
neozenhave I got that right rockbox users?02:44
asimi want to open divx files thru my player when i open a divx video in firefox02:44
asimcan u help me do that?02:44
bruenigLouisvilleLIP, run iwconfig with no arguments, it will be the one with stuff after it02:44
andrew_will they appear under music?02:44
crysalysanyone running Feisty on VMWare02:45
puffneozen: Has the ipod encrypted firmware been cracked yet?02:45
Stormx2crysalys: Why?02:45
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sldkfjasim, it may have been removed by an updated version, or perhaps it was an add-on you would pick up at the mozilla site.02:45
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neozenpuff: O.o.... didn't know it needed that02:45
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neozenpuff: is that within the realm of a newbie to do?02:45
crysalysStormx2: got a problem with feisty in vmware...02:45
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simpleHshould I use "nv" or "nvidia" when using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?02:45
thebighamhow do i install fonts02:45
Stormx2crysalys: Yeah? What problem?02:46
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wimpiesanybody know if there is a special channel for openoffice ?02:46
sldkfjasim, I'm not sure about divx02:46
thebigham.ttf02:46
bruenigsimpleH, if you have the nvidia driver installed, go with the second one02:46
CairnaHello, I want to completely format my hard drive anew. How do I go about doing that in ubuntu?02:46
neozenasim: couple plugin possibilities for that02:46
sldkfjsimpleH, depends on the version of you driver02:46
Stormx2Cairna: No partitions?02:46
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andrew_Is ipod linux worth using?02:46
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bruenigasim, you are probably talking about a plugin02:46
LouisvilleLIPbruenig: the most relevant lines say "No DHCPOFFERS received."02:46
neozenasim: right now I'm using mozilla-mplayer02:46
bruenigasim, or um add-on02:46
asimitwasnt an addon02:46
crysalysstormx2: when ever i put in a cd to rip it, it crashes Fiesty and I have to reboot my whole computer and then restart VMware and then restare Feisty.  Any ideas?02:46
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LouisvilleLIPbruenig: and "No working leases in persistent databse - sleeping.02:46
bruenigLouisvilleLIP, do iwconfig, tell me what the name of the interface is, it will be on the left02:46
civiltechieAnyone have a recommendation for a solid performing 8+ channel PCI-X hardware RAID card under Ubuntu?02:46
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CairnaStormx2: My NTFS partition is screwed up. Installing ubuntu after a format is no problem. So yeah, looking for a complete restart02:47
Stormx2crysalys: None. Its a vmware-specific bug, tho.02:47
LouisvilleLIPbruenig: wlan002:47
neozenasim: there's also one that uses totem to play videos embedded in pages.... can't really provide an opinion on that02:47
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bruenigLouisvilleLIP, ok so did you use that earlier in place of INTERFACE in iwconfig INTERFACE essid THESSID02:47
simpleHbruenig, should I use kernel framebuffer device interface?02:47
T1m3L0rdanyone good with NAT02:47
Stormx2Cairna: Well, both ubuntu and windows have the option to erase the entire disk during the install.02:47
crysalysstormx2: i wondered if that was the case.  My base system is vista, i wondered if that might be the problem too02:47
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neozenCairna: just boot up an ubuntu installation cd and tell it to wipe the disk02:47
bruenigsimpleH, just go with the defaults if you aren't sure02:47
asimis mplayer better than totem?02:47
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simpleHok02:48
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neozenasim: matter of opinion02:48
Stormx2crysalys: Hmm. I'm sure VMWare has a list of known issues somewhere.02:48
andrew_bruenig, the Ubuntu community owes you a drink.02:48
asimhmm02:48
neozenasim: I happen to think so...02:48
CairnaWill that have the same effect as a format? I need it... well, completely new.02:48
asimbut how to find that configuration thing?02:48
CairnaAny terminal command I can use?02:48
neozenasim: but I'm sure there are others here who could give you reasons why totem is better02:48
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sldkfjasim, have you tried the mplayer site?02:48
neozenasim: saw something a few minutes ago.....02:48
bruenigmplayer is better as a plugin because it has better format support02:48
Stormx2Cairna: Well, you could probably erase everything with fdisk, but you might as well kill 2 birds with 1 stone and do it at install-time.02:48
LouisvilleLIPbruenig: I did sudo dhclient wlan002:49
civiltechieAnyone have a recommendation for a solid performing 8+ channel PCI-X hardware RAID card under Ubuntu?02:49
crysalysStormx2: im sure they do.  I will have to try to find it someware.  How hard is it to dual boot vista and feisty, straight off the hard drive?02:49
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bruenigLouisvilleLIP, right but if you didn't do the iwconfig command right, then your card won't be requesting an ip address from the right access point02:49
CairnaWell, I plan to use my HP recovery disc with windows vista ( :/ ) right after the format02:49
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neozenciviltechie: that's a nicely worded and very specific question02:49
bruenigLouisvilleLIP, put your full iwconfig command that you used02:49
sldkfjasim, google:  mplayer divx02:49
bruenigpaste*02:49
CairnaI have 6.06 LTS, and when it partitions NTFS, it ah... fucks up windows vista, sadly ( sorta )02:49
Stormx2crysalys: Super-easy. Ubuntu automatically recognises windows on install, and sets up grub appropriately.02:49
neozenciviltechie: hopefully someone here will have an answer for you soon02:49
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bruenigCairna, that02:50
bruenigCairna, that's a feature02:50
Stormx2!ohmy | Cairna02:50
ubotuCairna: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:50
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LouisvilleLIPbruenig: I have only run it with no args02:50
puffI'm on ubuntu feisty, I just upgraded flash to 9.0 r48, and this appears to not be playing:  http://www.metacafe.com/watch/545672/unlock_plastic_handcuffs_police_style/02:50
CairnaApologies.02:50
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kevb_ukcan someone tell me how to remove a known key from ssh, if i look in ~/.ssh/known_hosts it makes no sense to me, it doesn't seem to have IP addresses or hostnames which I assumed it would02:50
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puffAnyone selse able to make it play?02:50
lashmooveI get a different grub splash on bootup t then on shutdown. I would like them to be the same, when I use  'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so' it shows a * by my prefered selection(which shows on shutdown), but a + by the selection that's being used on startup02:50
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bruenigLouisvilleLIP, ok what is the ssid of the access point02:50
crysalysStormx2: do i install vista first or Feisty?02:50
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Stormx2crysalys: Vista first.02:50
LouisvilleLIPbruenig: BrokenNetwork02:50
LouisvilleLIPbruenig: ironic, I know02:50
Cairnabruenig, awfull advanced feature seeing as 6.06 is before vista's time02:50
chowmeinedkevb_uk: they were hashed02:51
bruenigLouisvilleLIP, do sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid BrokenNetwork, then do the dhclient again02:51
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bruenigCairna, beta was out02:51
puffneozen: Sorry, saw you getting the ipod info from uboto and thought you might be up on the topic.02:51
Stormx2crysalys: It's a bit of a hassle installing windows after ubuntu, because windows doesn't beleive that other operating systems exist and proceeds to overwrite ubuntu's boot loader (grub)02:51
MajorPaynekevb_uk: You can just do a rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts and that will fix your problem.  But doing that every time is a bit less secure since it removes all keys.02:51
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chowmeinedkevb_uk: to prevent exploits from getting a bunch of hostname/fingerprints if they scanned your file02:51
crysalysStormx2: Can I boot them off of the same hard drive?02:51
Stormx2crysalys: You can.02:51
CairnaOooh, I should get the beta.02:51
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lobo_nzIm having trouble the nvidia kernel, I can startx fine untill I reboot, then a modprobe -r nvidia followed by modprobe -i nvidia is needed to startx again, the error says all the modules match but "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!" any ideas why I can manually unload/load the module and things work ok but it  loads and wont initialize after reboot would be greatly appreciated02:51
Stormx2crysalys: You'll need seperate partitions tho.02:51
chowmeinedkevb_uk: if you try to go to a host and it says the key doesn't match, it gives you the line number so you know which one to delete02:51
sldkfjpuff, yeah I got it to play02:51
CairnaWell, I'm off to try what you suggested stormx2, sorry for my un-family friendlyness02:52
jribkevb_uk: you can turn it off with  HashKnownHosts no  in your ssh config if you want02:52
Stormx2crysalys: I assume you mean hard disk drive, yeah? A windows "drive" (such as C:) is actually a partition.02:52
LouisvilleLIPbruenig: you are a Golden God02:52
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Stormx2Cairna: S'okay ;-) Good luck!02:52
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bruenigLouisvilleLIP, remember those commands, they are very helpful when gui isn't fairing well02:52
CairnaHow big is 7.04, by the way?02:52
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Stormx2Cairna: 600mb.02:52
kevb_ukchowmeined: cheers dude, gonna try that now02:53
Funa!usbfs > me02:53
kevb_ukchowmeined: didnt see the line number before : )02:53
Stormx2Cairna: On a CD that is. Installed, it is significantly more.02:53
crysalysStormx2: yes, i want to dual boot my laptop.  It has a single 160 gig HD and I want to partition it so I can dual boot with Feisty02:53
chowmeinedkevb_uk: just be sure that you meant for the key to be changed02:53
kitcheFuna: /msg the bot02:53
CairnaAh, so it's a big download02:53
chowmeinedkevb_uk: otherwise it means somebody is trying to intercept your communications02:53
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LouisvilleLIPbruenig: Will I have to do it everytime I log on to this network?  What about others?02:53
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CairnaWish me luck02:54
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bruenigLouisvilleLIP, well in one way or another, there are guis that make it easier. Ubuntu tends to go with the networkmanager panel applet that does this but in a point and click fashion02:54
sldkfjCairna, installed several gigs on a CD it is less than < 700megs02:54
kevb_ukchowmeined: yeah, is on my local network... i have bought a new pc : )02:54
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puffsldkfj: I can get the nano to play, I can get songs onto it (though sometimes they corrupted, somehow, not sure what's up wtih that but when I select them from the nano UI it just skips through every song in the album).02:54
puffsldkfj: What I *can't* seem to do is write playlists to the nano.02:54
Cairna*poof*02:55
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LouisvilleLIPbruenig: ok, so, if all else fails, this should do it.  Thanks a lot for your help02:55
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Stormx2crysalys: The best way to do things is to have 4 partitions. 1) / (for ubuntu) 2) /home (for ubuntu) 3) swap (for ubuntu) 4) Your Vista partition02:55
rustalotanybody know a large tech store that might have VIA Mico-ITX mobos? I've tried NewEgg and NCIX.02:55
sldkfjpuff, I don't know about nano stuff02:55
sldkfjsorry02:55
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Stormx2crysalys: You can put your media, music, videos etc on the 2nd or 4th and both operating systems will be able to read em.02:55
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crysalysStormx2: gotcha, sop for ubuntu . . . very useful information.  is this new to Feisty or has that been a feature of all previous versions?02:56
nexousI am dualbooting xp and 7.04 on my notebook now, I want to redo 7.04 to server edition, will i have to delete then recreate the partitions or will ubuntu install overwrite?02:57
crysalysStormx2: the music part I mean02:57
rustalotcrysalys: the /home partition should be FAT32 in order to have Vista read it.02:57
Stormx2crysalys: Well, previous versions didn't have write support for NTFS (Vista's filesystem) but now it's perfect :D02:57
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bruenigcrysalys, no bad idea, don't fat32 the home partition02:57
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crysalysrustalot: thats good to know02:58
Stormx2Don't FAT32 anything ;-)02:58
bruenigcrysalys, fat32 doesn't allow per file permissions which is necessary for the /home partition to function properly, unless you don't really care about logging in02:58
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crysalysStormx2: rustalot mentioned Fat 32.  Is that not necessary then?02:58
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Stormx2Not necessary and not recommended.02:58
bruenigcrysalys, if you want to create an auxiliary fat32 partition good, but don't make any part of the linux filesystem fat3202:58
rustalotcrysalys, bruenig: Sorry, I forgot about that.02:58
Stormx2bruenig: Not good. Why use FAT32 at all?02:59
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rustalotFAT32 is widely supported02:59
bruenigStormx2, native support in windows and linux, easy partition to share files between02:59
Stormx2bruenig: Windows can read ext3, ubuntu can read ntfs, why use an outdated and inferior fs?02:59
Stormx2Uhggg02:59
Stormx2That is a very small gain02:59
crysalysStormx2: ok. no fat 32.  so everything is ntfs02:59
bruenigyou can install drivers in both if you want too02:59
Stormx2crysalys: Keep the ubuntu stuff ext302:59
crysalysif i dont have to use FAT i wont03:00
rustalotWindows can't reat ext3, at least not without fscking up the journal / POSIX  permissions03:00
Stormx2Good.03:00
Stormx2rustalot: Erm, what?03:00
Stormx2rustalot: I've been using ext3 from windows for years now.03:00
deathspellAnyone here uses the no-ip client? If I add "/usr/local/bin/noip2" to sessions, will it run on startup?03:00
bruenigcrysalys, yeah you can just install fs-driver.org on windows and access your linux stuff within windows, probably easiest way to go about it if you don't want fat3203:00
crysalysbruenig: ok03:01
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rustalotI'm pretty sure that Windows can't do POSIX file permissions03:01
jribdeathspell: well it would run when you login03:01
Stormx2FAT32 is awful. Huge limitations on characters, filesize, permissions (or lack thereof), and generally just outdated.03:01
bruenigtrue03:01
thebighamwhere is the font directory?03:01
bruenig/usr/share/fonts?03:01
AzMoo[w] rustalot: the fs lib probably translates them to windows perms.03:01
crysalysnow i need to get the mp3 codec for ripping.03:01
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bruenig!codecs | crysalys03:02
jribthebigham: ~/.fonts to install fonts for your user03:02
ubotucrysalys: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:02
rustalotOTOH, Fat32 is supported on nearly every platform03:02
jrib!fonts > thebigham (see the private message from ubotu)03:02
crysalysbut they are illegal where i live03:02
bruenigcrysalys, we won't tell ;)03:02
Stormx2rustalot: So is ext3 >.<03:03
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crysalysyeah but i dont want my ip traced. call me paranoid i guess03:03
andrew_the law only deters people who fear getting caught03:03
Stormx2rustalot: And who cares about exotic platforms? This guy is using windows and ubuntu.03:03
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rustalotI suppose, but I don't trust my ext3 to a non-UNIX system03:03
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crysalyscan i remove the country code and download the codecs from UK?03:04
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andrew_If they tracked everyone who downloaded illegal codecs, thered be no time to chase pot-smokers.  It would work out either way for alot of us.03:04
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bruenigcrysalys, you can, but you realize that the only thing that will know your ip is the ubuntu repos right?03:04
waltercoolhi there... someone know how force a mount?03:04
bruenigwaltercool, what have you been using to try to mount it03:05
neozenwaltercool: what kind of filesystem?03:05
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bruenigcrysalys, it isn't like bittorrent or something similar where you have a bunch of parties and ips floating around03:05
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waltercooli have a ext3 partition... but appear like ntfs03:05
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roxygirlhey, has any one had troubles transferring files to media devices from amarok?03:05
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crysalysthats true i guess.03:06
roxygirli can't get files onto my mp3 player03:06
neozenroxygirl: ipod?03:06
andrew_Im still having this iPod problem, can't load it, everything else is fine.  What kind of bug?03:06
dissectionCan't locate configuration file /usr/local/etc/no-ip2.conf. (Try -c). Ending!03:06
rustalotcrysalys: give in to your inner communist! :P03:06
dissectionI get that error when I run no ip client.. please help03:06
neozenandrew_: not a bug... "feature" of ipod03:06
andrew_Haha03:06
andrew_Exactly.03:06
Stormx2dissection: locate no-ip2.conf ?03:06
roxygirlneozen: no iriver H1003:06
neozenandrew_: doesn't play files just loaded on device03:06
bruenigwaltercool, what command did you use previous to try to mount it?03:06
neozenroxygirl: O.o ... good03:07
rustalotandrew_ : are they mp3, or ogg?03:07
neozenroxygirl: does the device mount ok?03:07
andrew_mp303:07
crysalyssorry i have played around with several versions of ubuntu, but i have not been desisive about any version until feisty03:07
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crysalysI guess I will just download them03:07
roxygirlin amarok it seems to be recognizing it03:07
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jribdissection: you know 'no-ip' is packaged in ubuntu's repos?03:07
Scrippiehi03:07
roxygirlbut not always consistently03:07
neozencrysalys: either download dapper.... or whatever the latest is03:07
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andrew_Im using Banshee, but nothing is loading my iPod.03:07
unagiis there quicktime for linuix?03:08
roxygirlis there anywhere else i can check if it's mounting?03:08
crysalysneozen: why do that?03:08
bruenigunagi, codecs to play .movs03:08
dissectionjrib: Oh, I had no idea. I had downloaded it from their website and installed it. How do I remove it now? :S03:08
neozencrysalys: dapper is 6.06.103:08
jrib!quicktime > unagi (see the private message from ubotu)03:08
Scrippie??03:08
jribdissection: what command did you use to install it?03:08
neozencrysalys: edgy is no longer supported03:08
neozencrysalys: edgy is = to 6.1003:08
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dissectionjrib: "make", and "sudo make install"03:08
jribneozen: edgy is still supported03:08
crysalysneozen: i have all of the version all the way back to Hoary...03:08
bruenigwhat about grumpy groundhog?03:09
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jribdissection: try 'sudo make uninstall' in the same place you did 'sudo make install' but it is not guaranteed to work03:09
milllmannnanyone have a good resource for setting up Postfix + MYSQL?03:09
jayde_drag01can someone please help me.. i have finally found a fix to a porblem i'm having.. but one key piece is eluding me... and i am a newbie03:09
neozenbruenig: you mean gusty gibbon?03:09
bruenig!anyone | jayde_drag0103:09
ubotujayde_drag01: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:09
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neozenjrib: suppose it depends on your definition of support03:09
bruenigneozen, no there was a grumpy groundhog used by developers or some such a while back03:09
jayde_drag01i wanrt to run this "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /media/mydrive -o force"03:09
dissectionjrib: It says make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.03:09
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jayde_drag01but i don't knwo what to put behind /dev/03:09
jayde_drag01and i don't knwo how to find that answer03:10
neozenbruenig: hoary hedgehog perhaps03:10
jribdissection: yeah... then you either have to remove it manually or use checkinstall to install it again and then remove it with APT03:10
jrib!checkinstall > dissection (see the private message from ubotu)03:10
unagiso the answer is no there is not quicktime for linux?03:10
jribneozen: security updates03:10
bruenigjayde_drag01, I don't believe force is an option, the man page at least doesn't indicate that it is03:10
crysalysi didnt have grumpy but i do have hoary and i will have Gusty when i can get it03:10
neozenunagi: well.. you can PLAY quicktime's just fine03:10
neozenunagi: (I haven't had any issues)03:10
roxygirlneozen: any suggestions for me?03:11
jayde_drag01i can't mount a drive03:11
neozenunagi: but as far as creation of them.... and the actual real quicktime interface... no I don't think so...03:11
jayde_drag01i get  $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)03:11
jayde_drag01Failed to mount '/dev/hdd1': Operation not supported03:11
jayde_drag01Mount is denied because NTFS logfile is unclean. Choose one action:03:11
jayde_drag01Boot Windows and shutdown it cleanly, or if you have a removable03:11
jayde_drag01device then click the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows03:11
jayde_drag01taskbar notification area before disconnecting it.03:11
jrib!paste | jayde_drag0103:11
ubotujayde_drag01: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:11
unagii can play quicktime's too......but im looking for if quicktime exists for linux03:11
jayde_drag01basically03:11
neozenroxygirl: still chewing on your problem03:11
bruenigneozen, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/GrumpyGroundhog03:11
jayde_drag01ooh i'm sorry03:11
neozenbruenig: O.o03:11
bruenigjayde_drag01, is this a windows drive?03:11
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neozenbruenig: news to me...03:11
jayde_drag01it was yes03:11
jayde_drag01but i do not have windows any more03:11
jayde_drag01so i can't just reboot and shut down normally03:11
jayde_drag01AND i cannot lose my data03:12
Stormx2jayde_drag01: I think you can clean the log, hold on03:12
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bruenigjayde_drag01, consider mounting read only with ntfs and copying it over03:12
jayde_drag01oooh you guys rock soo hard.. you have no idea03:12
Stormx2jayde_drag01: sudo ntfsfix /dev/hdd103:12
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jayde_drag01i have no idea how to do that other than right click mount03:12
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unagiis hibernation suposedly going to be fixed in gutsy?03:12
jayde_drag01well hang on hdd1 is not the right command03:13
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jayde_drag01i copied and pasted someone elses error because it wouldn't let me copy and paste mine03:13
jayde_drag01let me try and get the right answer for you03:13
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dissectionjrib: That warning is scary ;[03:13
bruenigjayde_drag01, don't use -o force anymore, but it would be the same command you gave but with -t ntfs instead of -t ntfs-3g03:13
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jayde_drag01and i still need the drives to be read AND write when i'm done03:13
nir_aihi, is it possible that my user-name does not appear in /etc/passwd ?03:13
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jribdissection: it's a bit exaggerated imo03:14
bruenigjayde_drag01, do you have enough room on your other disks to copy all the data off of it?03:14
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crysalysok, well thanks everyone! i am going to try my dual boot now.  How much room does Feisty need to run properly?03:14
jayde_drag01failed to mount dev/hde103:14
bruenigjayde_drag01, do you have enough room on your other disks to copy all the data off of it?03:14
dissectionjrib: Im a newbie, maybe it'll mess up my system03:14
jribnir_ai: possible, but doesn't sound good/normal03:14
dissectionjrib: How do I manually remove No IP?03:14
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bruenigcrysalys, 2 gig minimum I think they say, but to be safe probably want to go with at least 8-1003:15
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jayde_drag01sorta but thats not really an option i'd like to go with if i can avoid it.. i've got 60gigs of music on one drive and 50gigs of video on the other03:15
unagianyone know where to find stock footage?03:15
jribdissection: you have to delete the file manually03:15
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crysalysok thanks everyone!!03:15
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crysalyschia03:15
bruenigjayde_drag01, my point is that if you can copy all of the stuff off of it, you can format the drives as ext3 since you don't use windows anymore and that way you won't have to rely on reverse engineered ntfs drivers but can use native linux filesystems03:15
bruenigand then you can move it all back03:15
dissectionjrib: The instructions said I should run "/usr/local/bin/noip2" to execute it. So is that the file I need to remove, and the .conf file? Are these two files the only ones to be removed?03:16
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jribdissection: I don't know03:16
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dissection:(03:16
ethanhello03:16
bruenigdissection, how did you install it?03:16
bruenig!hi | ethan03:16
ubotuethan: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:16
dissectionbruenig: I typed sudo make install03:16
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nir_aijrib, how do I determine a user's shell if their name does not appear in /etc/passwd ?03:16
whoniccacompiz has to be the mos unstable program out, how come when i enable desktop effects all my title bars are messed up, no minimize or maximize buttons03:16
jayde_drag01i know.. totally logical... the problem is that my external drive is ona 1.1 usb... and this will take 3 days to copy over.. then 3 more days to copy back03:16
jayde_drag01i don't have that kind of time or patience03:17
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bruenigdissection, do you still have that directory that you typed sudo make install in on your hard drive, the source directory?03:17
ethanthis is nothing like aim is it? i think i just downloaded the completely wrong thing03:17
bruenigjayde_drag01, 1.1 wow03:17
dissectionbruenig: yes03:17
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rustalotHow do I get the Magnatune store in Amarok?03:17
jayde_drag01yah.. even tho it says i have usb2.0 ports...03:17
CThohow can I install the nvidia binary driver for multiple kernel versions at the same time?03:17
bruenigjayde_drag01, well that other guy said it could be cleaned, the log could be cleaned, I only know of the reboot with windows and shutdown method so wait for him I guess03:17
roxygirlneozan:  should i try a different program?03:17
jayde_drag01every usb port i plug into is sluggish an=d GROSSLY slow03:18
richterhahahuahuahahuahua...03:18
hypertypercan anyone let me pick their brain for a sec? i have a program that needs to be run with sudo that i want to run when i log in, possibly with a delay. quick and dirty is fine, i just want it to work.03:18
bruenigdissection, ok well cd into that directory and do "sudo make uninstall"03:18
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jayde_drag01what will happen if i try to force mount?03:18
jayde_drag01anything bad?03:18
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bruenigjayde_drag01, -o force is not even an option, in the mount man page they don't have it listed, it likely just ignores it03:18
whoniccais there a specific channel for desktop effect related issues?03:19
bruenighypertyper, ok what is the name of the program?03:19
AzMoo[w] hypertyper: you can set up sudo to allow you to run a specific program without a password, but I'm not exactly sure how anymore. man sudo03:19
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sniff_eth0:avah <-- fro what?03:19
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bruenighypertyper, I mean what is the command to launch the program03:20
bruenigwho_cares, #ubuntu-effects03:20
rustalotwhonicca: #ubuntu-effects03:20
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whoniccathanks03:20
hypertyperbruenig: currently, i'm running from the console as follows: sudo -i (enter) sk8135pcm /dev/input/event6 &03:20
bruenighypertyper, ok do "which sk8135pcm" and paste the output03:21
jayde_drag01how do i mount it in read only so i can run the ntfs config tool on it.. i really want to avoid the copying of files03:21
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bruenigjayde_drag01, ntfs-config doesn't do anything, it configures the fstab I believe, someone may correct me03:21
hypertyperbruenig:  /usr/bin/sk8135-pcm03:21
jayde_drag01it allolws you to change the properties ro read AND write03:21
dissectionbruenig: Did you have a message for me? I got disconnected and may have missed it.03:21
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bruenighypertyper, ok do you know how to use vim?03:21
andrew_rustalot:could it have to do with my computer not letting me install libgpod-dev?03:21
hypertyperbruenig: is that a text editor?03:22
bruenigdissection, did you get the sudo make uninstall message?03:22
rustalotandrew_: I really have no idea.03:22
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jayde_drag01or at least run ntfsfix on them like it asks me to do03:22
dissectionbruenig: No, and I tried that but it didn't work. It said no target03:22
hypertyperbruenig: i use gedit, but whichever. hit me with a script, my man.03:22
noldonhi im running ubuntu 6.06 for x86 right now and r about to install 7.04 for amd64 and i have my home on one partition and my root on another,03:22
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bruenighypertyper, um do this then: EDITOR=gedit && sudo visudo, tell me if it pops up or not03:23
jayde_drag01and if i have a drive already that i want to format top the linux filesystem.. HOW do i do that?03:23
dissectionbruenig: .. No rule to make target 'uninstall' Stop03:23
bruenigdissection, ok so you just extracted the tarball again03:23
dissectionbruenig: http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9228/screenshotwotanistrendenc5.png03:23
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bruenigdissection, this isn't the exact same directory, this is a fresh one03:23
hypertyperbruenig: hmm... nano.03:23
noldonand i wounder if i can install the amd64 ubuntu on my root and it wont bother that my home is from a x86 installation03:24
bruenighypertyper, well you can handle nano I'm sure03:24
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bruenighypertyper, what is your username?03:24
dissectionbruenig: I typed it in the same terminal window from where I installed it03:24
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hypertyperbruenig: is that important?03:24
ShackJacknoldon: nope, won't matter the fileysystems are the same...03:24
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noldonok so i dont have to worry then03:24
ShackJacknoldon: Those x64 version of Ubuntu may have some issues with drivers, flash, et al..03:24
noldonthanx03:24
jribnir_ai: their name *should* appear in /etc/passwd afaik03:25
anandanbuI have installed ubuntu 7.04 and now how do i install xubuntu inm y system03:25
noldonShackJack ok03:25
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D0wNHi, when I try to install a package through Synaptic package manager, I get this: "Depends: gtk2-engines-aurora but it is not going to be installed". Does anyone know of a way to fix that?03:25
bruenighypertyper, well add this line to this file, put it at the bottom of the file: YOURUSERNAME ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/sk8135pcm /dev/input/event6 &03:25
hypertyperbruenig: allow me to rephrase. what would you like me to do with it?03:25
ShackJackanandanbu: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop :)03:25
noldonwell then i go back using x86  after i tried the 6403:25
hypertypergah, i type too slowly ;003:25
jayde_drag01how do i run ntfsfix version 1.13.1 on these drives... it tells me i can do that03:25
anandanbushackjack: thanks03:25
jayde_drag01but i don't knwo the code03:25
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noldonas long as my home stays as it is03:26
jribdissection: installing the ubuntu packaging and doing 'dpkg -L' will probably give you some hints (packages install to /usr instead of /usr/local where make install usually puts things by default).  But checkinstall really is the easy way to go here03:26
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jayde_drag01know.. (why can i never type it right)03:26
ShackJacknoldon: Yep it will -- the filesystems are x386 x64 agnostic...03:26
bruenighypertyper, save and exit03:26
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anandanbushackjack: it says "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"03:26
noldonok thanx03:26
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D0wN=\03:27
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hypertyperbruenig: ok, now what?03:27
ShackJackanandanbu: That's how you install it at any rate... problem with your aptitude/apt-get?  Maybe try an update first?03:27
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noldonbtw when i reinstall grub after windows messing it up should i mount my root partition and chroot into it and then run grub?03:27
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Andyhohello03:28
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ShackJack!hi | Andyho03:28
ubotuAndyho: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:28
dissectionEmm, I don't know. It gives a warning and says I should be ready with the LiveCD, that looked like a high probability of me screwing it up and thats almost always the case03:28
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martyrnchello03:28
bruenighypertyper, you know what, there might actually be a better way to do this, this can be run at any time during boot right? gnome doesn't need to be loaded does it?03:28
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Andyhomy nvidia card is driving me up a wall LOL03:28
hypertyperyeah, i think x has to be up03:28
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roxygirlhey anybody:  i'm tryin to sync my iriver mp3 player with amarok, but the files won't transfer.  any ideas?03:29
ShackJackAndyho: WHich kind is it?03:29
italianninjamplayer wont play xvid anyone help me03:29
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rustalothey guys, how do I get the magnatune store in Amarok?03:29
hypertyperbruenig: can i pm you, i'm having a hard time digging through the flak, here03:29
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bruenighypertyper, oh x does, ok well then we are doing it right: go to system>preferences>sessions and then the startup commands tab and add: sudo /usr/bin/sk8135pcm /dev/input/event6 &03:29
ShackJackitalianninja: You have gstreamer plugins installed?03:29
dissectionAnyone here has installed the No-IP client from their websites and know what files need to be deleted?03:29
TorahteenHi everyone, is there a way for me to install ubuntu Feisty Fawn without losing my current installation?03:29
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bruenighypertyper, that is the last step ^03:29
italianninjaShackJack: i dont know. im new to ubuntu03:29
Netham45Is there an equivalant to XP's network bridging in Ubuntu?03:30
hypertyperk, thanks. i suppose i should reboot now?03:30
italianninjaShackJack: and its driving me crazy already03:30
Netham45if so, how do I use it/03:30
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TorahteenAnyone?03:30
ShackJackCheck 'em out in the Add/Remove programs thing... Or, better yet, install VLC Player (same place) it plays EVERYTHING!03:30
bruenighypertyper, sure03:30
martyrnchello new to ubuntu and linux, Just got my dell laptop with feisty fawn ubuntu on it.03:30
AndyhoShack: It's a GeForce 620003:30
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TorahteenI have xubuntu 7.04 cd, so where to go from there?03:30
bruenigvlc plays everything because it has static codecs installed not because it has done anything03:30
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ShackJackitalianninja: Proprietary things like Xvid, mp3, etc.. aren't included by default but are trivial to add ib...03:30
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hypertyperalright. i'll be back in a few on my windows box when whatever you had me put in that sensitive system file fries my ubuntu install03:30
dissectionjrib: http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9228/screenshotwotanistrendenc5.png <-- Thats the screenshot of the installation.. Can you check that and tell me what files from where I need to delete, for a manual removal?03:31
hypertyperjust kidding.03:31
bruenigyou install the same codecs and you can get any player to play what vlc does03:31
italianninjaShackJack: vlc wont play anything either03:31
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LouisvilleLIPis possiblt/reasonable to change my laptop's memory allocation so that it doesn't lag?  I've only got 512 and it chugs a little bit03:31
martyrncok newbee here is there java for ubuntu03:32
AndyhoEvery time I install it it'll make it part way through startup, then hangs.. then I switch it back to the default and it goes back to a command line.. so then I reconfigure it to the default.. LOL!03:32
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ShackJackitalianninja: Check out the Totem built in player and instadd the gstreamer plugins "ugly" good" and "ffmpeg"03:32
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AndyhoI hear it's a standard issue... along with my officejet not wanting to scan LOL03:32
jribdissection: use the 'dpkg -L no-ip' trick after installing no-ip from the repos.  It will list the files.  Just keep in mind that you want to delete from /usr/local and not from /usr03:32
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ShackJackitalianninja: In fact if you have 7.04 it should prompt you when using Movie Player to install right plug in to play the file..03:33
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ShackJackAndyho: gotta use full IM name or it don't beep me (hint: Tab)03:33
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ShackJackAndyho: What's the problem.. those should go in like buttah?03:33
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Netham45!subnetting03:34
ShackJackAndyho: wait nevermind - I saw03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about subnetting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:34
italianninjaShackJack: dont know what version im running?03:34
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Netham45=/03:34
AndyhoLOL np03:34
AzMoo[w] martyrnc: /j #jetspeed03:34
bruenigdissection, switch into that directory, run ./configure make then sudo make uninstall03:34
AzMoo[w] oops03:34
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ShackJackitalianninja: Open you system monitor (under admin and check out the first tab)03:34
jerbull88does anyone know how to get a slave hdd to mount automatically03:34
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bruenig!paste | dissection also this would be preferred next time03:34
ubotudissection also this would be preferred next time: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:34
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bruenigjerbull88, add it to /etc/fstab03:35
AzMoo[w] Man, it's all going well for me at the moment.03:35
AzMoo[w] martyrnc: ignore that, I slipped.03:35
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jerbull88brue im not totally sure what commands to use03:35
dissectionUhm, I didn't flood the channel, bruenig03:35
bruenigdissection, it is easier to read than an image03:35
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dissectionbruenig: ./configure does not do anything03:35
rombel why evolution can receive mail but cannot send03:35
ShackJackAndyho: you might try just reinstalling nvidia-glx and of course double checking your xorg has nvidia as the driver...03:35
bruenigdissection, then how did you install it the first time?03:35
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dissectionbruenig: I just typed make and make install.. no ./configure03:36
bruenigdissection, them type make make uninstall03:36
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jerbull88how do i add my slave hdd to fstab03:36
archoniamHiyas! Anyone know why the heck my computer is outputting this error? Error is: /var/tmp/iFSWNmEAAiTAInQHagQZI/installscript.sh: 4: /home/archoniam/Linux: not found03:36
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bruenigjerbull88, what is the /dev/name of the drive, what is its filesystem and what is its desired mount point?03:37
revilodrawamarok uses way too much of my cpu % and lags heaps.. using feisty on a 2ghz core 2 duo w 2gb ram03:37
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AndyhoShack: yeah I tried that.. I actually tried the glx and the glx-galaxy and got rid of the restricted since someone told me that that mighta been giving a conflict, but no such luck.. then I switched between nvidia and nv.. but still a no go..03:37
Netham45does anyone know if Ubuntu Linux has an equivalant of Windows XP's network bridging? If so, where, and how do I configure it? A How-To would be most appricated.03:37
dissectionbruenig: When I type make, it says "noip2" is up to date, but when I type make uninstall, it says "No rule to make target 'uninstall'03:37
yekodid you fdisk the slave yet?03:37
_Elmorequestion: what's a good gui based backup program for Linux?03:37
jrib!backup > _Elmore (see the private message from ubotu)03:37
archoniamLast time I tried it said it had permission denied. It must have stopped smoking crack or sumthin'.03:37
jerbull88name disk filesystem ext3 idk mount point03:37
ShackJackitalianninja: at any rate, look for gstreamer under add/remove and install appropriate plugins (read descriptions)03:37
yekomondo is the best backup I have used03:37
rombel why evolution can receive mail but cannot send03:37
jrib_Elmore: I liked sbackup when I tried it03:37
bruenigdissection, perhaps that package doesn't have an uninstall option almost all packages do, you will need to trace down every file it installed and delete it manually03:37
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_Elmorek thanks03:37
_Elmorejrib, is it free?03:38
dissectionbruenig: How do I do that?03:38
_Elmoreunder the gpl licence?03:38
Andyhobrb03:38
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jrib_Elmore: yes, it is in the repos.  I don't know if it is specifically gpl03:38
bruenigjerbull88, no the /dev/name, it needs to have something like /dev/hda103:38
_Elmoreok03:38
ShackJack_Elmore: there's a GNOME front end for rsync called GRsync - really powerful...03:38
_Elmorelong as its free i don't care03:38
_Elmoreok03:38
_Elmorethanks03:38
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bruenigdissection, go trace down all the files and delete them03:38
bruenigdissection, however you need to do that, /usr/local is probably where it is all contained, start there03:39
archoniam...Allo?03:39
jerbull88brue since its a slave wouldnt the name be /dev/hab1?03:39
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ShackJack!hi | archoniam03:39
ubotuarchoniam: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:39
italianninjahow does fedora compare to ubuntu?03:39
jerbull88srry hda103:39
_Elmorethanks again everyone, goodnight!03:39
revilodrawamarok uses way too much of my cpu % and lags heaps.. using feisty on a dell inspiron 6400 2ghz core 2 duo w 2gb ram03:39
bruenigjerbull88, do sudo fdisk -l, it has a definite name03:39
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ShackJackitalianninja: Ubuntu easier to use and better community :P03:39
revilodrawitalianninja: it doesnt lol03:40
yekowhen you fdisk the drive, you will know what /dev/hxx you will mount03:40
bruenigI say they are about the same03:40
italianninjaShackJack: lol so why is nothing working for me03:40
yekoyou have to fdisk first and make the filesystem03:40
hypertyperbruenig: didn't work, but i'm not concerned. i'll end up making a shortcut for it, or figure it out later.03:40
ShackJackrevilodraw: Maybe check out Exaile - it's pretty cool and has most of Amarok;'s features - plus made for GNOME not KDE03:40
italianninjaanyone want to remote my desktop and get this porn playing?03:40
revilodrawshaxkjack: thank you03:40
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bruenighypertyper, it might be the &, I was unsure on the &03:40
ShackJackitalianninja: Did you do what I said? and what do you mean "nothing" working.. I'm sure most thinkgs are working..03:40
hypertyperbruenig: i'll try yanking it out, later03:41
revilodrawitalianninja: haha good luck03:41
bruenighypertyper, I would try editing that out of sudo visudo and then again out of the startup commands03:41
hypertyperthanks for the help :)03:41
archoniamXD. I just wanted to ask the Q later in the log, which was: Anyone know why the heck my computer is outputting this error? Error is: /var/tmp/iFSWNmEAAiTAInQHagQZI/installscript.sh: 4: /home/archoniam/Linux: not found03:41
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ShackJackitalianninja: Put it this way - if you can't get Ubuntu working, you'll have a harder time with many other distros... THough you might want to check out Mint of Sambayon which are Ubuntu based and have some of those codecs preinstalled... But not worth the effort as it should be EZ for you to put the codecs on yourself...03:41
jerbull88brue its /dev/hda203:42
bruenigarchoniam, what wer eyou doing before this03:42
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bruenigjerbull88, alright where did you want to mount it, /media/hda2 maybe?03:42
D0wNwhen I try to install a package through Synaptic package manager, I get this: "Depends: gtk2-engines-aurora but it is not going to be installed". Does anyone know of a way to fix that?03:42
jerbull88yes03:42
bruenigjerbull88, ok well make sure /media/hda2 exists "sudo mkdir /media/hda203:42
bruenig"03:42
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archoniamBruenig: Surfing the net, downloading a few tarballs, i was trying to checkinstall a tarball.03:43
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ShackJackitalianninja: All you gotta do is put the extra gstreamer codecs and your porn will play fine - mine does ;)03:43
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bruenigarchoniam, hmm a checkinstall failure how clever, just delete /var/tmp/whateverthathingwas03:43
jerbull88is it supposed to give any confirmation03:43
madcreationany pointers to installing ubuntu server03:43
bruenigjerbull88, just go to the next line03:43
archoniamBruenig: I've had this same problem, only instead of 'not found,' i go- Oki... XD03:43
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jerbull88im there03:43
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revilodrawshackjack; exaile is nowhere is pretty as amarok03:44
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dissectionbruenig: I removed the file from /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/etc .. Could there possibly be anymore files? I didn't find anything else03:44
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bruenigjerbull88, ok so do "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" and add "/dev/hda2 /media/hda2 ext3 defaults 0 0"03:44
mooseinmudwhat are you trying to install madcreation03:44
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orange__Need help on wine03:44
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ShackJackD0wN: You might want to see if you can install gtk2-engines-aurora manually - it might not be in the repos though..03:44
archoniamIt's already gone. XD03:44
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orange__I need to install an program to run exe / games03:44
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madcreationubuntu server03:44
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mooseinmudpretty straight forward03:45
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ShackJackrevilodraw: Well, I don't think Amarok is particualry pretty, but I hear what your saying... they have a great SVN version you can use with more features...03:45
bruenigdissection, there could be, the only way to know for sure is to try to wade through the Makefile, but you need to know some serious bash to do that, if there doesn't appear to be anything in there, you are probably good03:45
yekoMake sure you can manually mount the drive before messing with fstab03:45
AlonzoTG=P03:45
AlonzoTGI burned me a disk today, just to try it out...03:45
ShackJackrevilodraw: See - http://www.exaile.org/downloads03:45
yekomkdir /dev/whatever /mnt/newdisk03:45
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AlonzoTGI put it in the machine and let it crash a few times... (I had other chores to do while it was crashing...)03:45
yekomount /dev/whatever /mnt/newdisk I mean03:45
AlonzoTGThe last time I tried it, It gave me a log-in screen.03:45
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crysalysme'sah likey CS sporto!!03:46
orange__I need to install an program to run exe / windows games like diablo / css03:46
madcreationoh and i'm new to linux03:46
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AlonzoTG-- mind you, this is after pushing the power button and walking.03:46
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hypertyperhow does one perform multiple commands on a single line? ie, i want to perform command1, wait 5 seconds, then perform command203:46
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[Cz] S_p_or_t_o:P, orange - you need wine03:46
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italianninjaShackJack: can you talk me through installing every possible movie codex for totem03:46
yekohypertyper use a semicolon03:46
AlonzoTGI tried several times to log in but couldn't guess the password.03:46
bruenighypertyper, command1 ; sleep 5 ; command203:46
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ShackJack!wine | orange__03:46
ubotuorange__: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:46
AlonzoTGSO WHAT IS THE PASSWORD FOR THE UBUNTU LIVE CD???03:46
crysalysanyone know if know if i can add a partition in Vista?03:47
hypertyperyou guys are awesome, thanks03:47
bruenighypertyper, or alternatively command1 && sleep 5 && command 2 (this one will make sure the previous command didn't have an error before going on to the next)03:47
jribAlonzoTG: it's blank/empty03:47
jerbull88brue is this correct /dev/hda2/media/hda2 ext3 defaults 0 003:47
crysalyswithout an outside prog03:47
AlonzoTGIt doesn't accept blank or empty.03:47
bruenigjerbull88, space between /dev/hda2 and /media/hda203:47
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ShackJackitalianninja: Not much more to it that what I said - go to add remove programs/sound and video - look for gstreamer  -- see descriptions, but you wand ffmpeg primarily, and "extra" plugins pack03:47
AlonzoTGI mean if I just hit the enter key, it says I need to enter a password.03:47
yekojerbull88  make sure you can manually mount the drive first03:48
crysalysi tried computer management but no go03:48
bruenigyeko, it will err the same03:48
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AlonzoTGIt won't let me log in, I tried for 20 minutes...03:48
jerbull88i can manually mount it, is this correct, /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 ext3 defaults 0 003:48
Belboz99Hey all, I'm trying to install Kubuntu 7.04, and it's at "downloading package lists"  it sits there and Ubiquity uses 100% of the CPU, it's been sitting there for about 30 minutes03:48
AlonzoTGI searched all around and I couldn't find any help.03:48
bruenigjerbull88, yes, now get out of that and do "sudo mount -a"03:48
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Belboz99this is the second time it's done this tonight03:49
yekoAlonzoTG System - Administration - Users and Groups ....you can reset root password there03:49
hypertyper/ame wanders off to reboot again03:49
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AlonzoTGthis was on the _LIVE CD_, first boot no keys pressed.03:49
DisabledDuckanyone know a good applications for burning DVDs?03:49
jerbull88 wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,        missing codepage or other error        (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,        instead of some logical partition inside?)        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so.03:49
bruenigDisabledDuck, growisofs03:49
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Stormx2DisabledDuck: k3b.03:49
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bruenigjerbull88, ok so then it is not ext303:50
dissectionWhats the location of the bashrc or something where aliases are written?03:50
Belboz99Goood God, half an hour to download the package lists on a DSL connection, WTF?03:50
yekobruenig.......but if the system freezes up...and he has to reboot...fstab can cause a problem03:50
bruenigdissection, ~/.bashrc03:50
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dissectionI have an entry in that03:50
dissectionOkay03:50
bruenigyeko, true03:50
asimcan someone help me with BERYL?03:50
bruenig!beryl | asim03:50
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crysalysanyone know?03:50
vinayhi folks... im trying to figure out why hibernate option literally shuts down my system.. hitting power button makes it boot from post... vista does not do this.. thoughts?03:50
ShackJackasim: No - but check out the #beryl channel for expert help...03:50
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Stormx2Hmm, ubotu has died?03:51
jerbull88brue the disk prperties say it is ext303:51
ubotuasim: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects03:51
bruenigvinay, hibernation and suspend is iffy03:51
ShackJackStormx2: nah just a lil' slow..03:51
bruenigjerbull88, ok try "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /media/hda2"03:51
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bruenigjerbull88, by the way /dev/hda2 sounds like the second partition on your main drive, not some other slave drive03:51
bruenigbut maybe not03:52
bruenigit is certain the second partition of some drive03:52
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bruenigcertainly*03:52
r00723r0hi, my /dev/dsp isn't working03:52
vinaybruenig: that's unfortunate!! i would suspect it would send some command to power management system that would start/stop it... whether it can handle such a start/stop is another question.. but completely powering down makes me think something in a config file is setup wrong :-S03:52
jerbull88brue its definitely a slave03:52
r00723r0cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp says the device is busy03:52
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r00723r0i tried lsof /dev/dsp and nothing comes up03:52
bruenigjerbull88, the second partition of your slave drive?03:53
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dissectionAre there more than one .bashrc? When I type "noip2", it gives me the error bash: /usr/local/bin/noip2: No such file or directory but I checked in .bashrc and its not there03:53
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TorahteenHi everyone03:54
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r00723r0does anyone know?03:54
jerbull88brue srry disk is named /dev/hdb03:54
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r00723r0something's hogging my oss driver03:54
showgunhello earthlings!03:54
TorahteenHas anyone here been able to get compiz/beryl working on their ubuntu installation?03:54
r00723r0and i don't know how to close it03:54
bruenigjerbull88, ahhh, /dev/hdb1 right? if it has only one partition03:54
D0wNSlackjack: Sorry for the late reply. I have tried, however, I get this: http://pastebin.ca/62561303:55
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jerbull88Disk /dev/hdb: 41.1 GB, 41110142976 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4998 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes03:55
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TorahteenGah, I hate the fact that I always forget to identify myself before chatting here03:55
bruenigjerbull88, well you know how many partitions it has on it, is it just one?03:55
TorahteenOk, has anyone here gotten beryl or compiz working on their comp?03:55
jerbull88yes just one03:55
D0wNOops. Sorry. I meant ShackJack03:55
showgunhow can i run my usb mouse in my ubuntu 7.04 when im already logged in my desktop?03:56
bruenigjerbull88, ok well remove the old mount point for the wrong drive "sudo rmdir /media/hda2" then make the new one "sudo mkdir /media/hdb1"03:56
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bruenigjerbull88, then run sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb103:56
TorahteenCan anyone hear me?03:56
showguncuz i dont want to reboot my box just to run this usb mouse. any help pls?03:56
g0dd3ssyah Torahteen  mine werkz03:56
TorahteenHehe03:56
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Torahteeng0dd3ss, Beryl or compiz?03:56
TorahteenI'm trying to figure out how to go about installing it03:57
g0dd3ssTorahteen, both XD i use beryl tho03:57
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ShackJackD0wN: I might try making sure current dependencires are resolved -- sudo aptitude -f install      but otherwise I think this package does not have the dependencies it needs that are available in your version of Ubuntu...03:57
jerbull88ok03:57
bruenigjerbull88, did it mount?03:57
jerbull88ok03:57
TorahteenI found an installation script for beryl, but it failed03:57
jerbull88ok03:57
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TorahteenHow'd you install yours g0dd3ss?03:58
jerbull88how do i check03:58
dissectionAre there more than one .bashrc? When I type "noip2", it gives me the error bash: /usr/local/bin/noip2: No such file or directory but I checked in .bashrc and its not there03:58
showgunand another separate question, my winxp ntfs is automatically loaded when booting my ubuntu but the problem is i cant write inside that winxp ntfs partition, how do i mount it so that i can put a file inside that ntfs partition?03:58
yekoWill atomatix install beryl?03:58
bruenigTorahteen, don't run scripts unless you understand them, how are we supposed to know what it did03:58
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g0dd3ssTorahteen,  i just used synaptic03:58
bruenig!automatix | yeko03:58
ubotuyeko: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe03:58
ShackJackTorahteen: Go to #ubuntu-effects for beryl/compiz support - better help there..03:58
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TorahteenOk, thank you03:58
Torahteen#ubuntu-effects03:58
dissectionbruenig03:58
jerbull88how do i know if it mounted03:58
Torahteenoops XD03:58
Andyhook.. now I'm back.. dang I was hungry03:58
bruenigjerbull88, ls /media/hdb103:58
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bruenigjerbull88, if it didn't error then it mounted, that is another way to know03:59
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Andyhodoes anyone run yahoo widgets under wine?03:59
jerbull88then i guess it mounted03:59
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bruenigjerbull88, ok do "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" and change the hda2 stuff to hdb103:59
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TorahteenCan I insatll feisty without a complete linux reinstallation?03:59
bruenigAndyho, why would you do that?04:00
bruenig!upgrading | Torahteen04:00
ubotuTorahteen: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes04:00
showgunstill waiting for someone to help my queries above04:00
Torahteenty04:00
yekoTorahteen...I tried upgrading from edgy to fiesty...I had trouble04:00
jerbull88ok04:00
bruenig!patience | showgun04:00
ubotushowgun: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:00
TorahteenI'm on dapper04:00
dissection!no-ip04:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about no-ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:00
TorahteenThat gonna be better04:00
bruenigjerbull88, ok so it should be done04:00
dissection!bashrc04:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bashrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:00
Andyhobruenig: cuz I haven't found any similar widgets to use and as far as I know they don't support linux?!?04:00
dissection:(04:00
jerbull88how do i check04:00
vinaywhere does ubuntu's resolution picker get its list from?  its not coming from xorg configuration ...04:00
bruenigdissection, what are you talking about with bashrc, bashrc has nothing to do with that error04:01
ShackJackTorahteen: yeko: One tip I can offer is make sure the main meta packages are installed ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard :)04:01
yekoTorahteen I would reinstall from scratch04:01
dissectionbruenig: Okay.. how do I fix it04:01
jerbull88how do i tell if it worked?04:01
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showgunhehehe bruenig yes i know patience is a virtue :D04:01
ShackJackTorahteen: Do you have a separate partition for /home ?04:01
bruenigdissection, the PATH is cached to some extent in order to make launching programs faster, so when you run that command, it has already cached the location and that is why it errs like that, I don't remember the command to update that cache but a restart will do it04:01
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bruenigShackJack, have you installed yet?04:02
vinay(note: im using nvidia drivers)04:02
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ShackJackbruenig: Installed what?04:02
bruenig!ntfs-3g | showgun04:02
ubotushowgun: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:02
bruenigShackJack, ubuntu?04:02
bruenigShackJack, the easiest way to configure it is during installation04:02
Andyhovinay: how'd you make it work? LOL! Having nvidia driver probs here..04:02
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ShackJackbruenig: hee hee - yeah of course...04:02
ShackJackbruenig: not quite sure what you're getting at(?)04:03
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eegoredoes anyone know of a precanned lamp application for a service and repair shop?04:03
showgunthanks bruenig now patience has a price for those who wait04:03
showgun:D04:03
snake_when i try to run keyboard accessibility in gnome it says i have no xkb extension. any idea ?04:03
vinayAndyho: hmmmm, i've used these drivers for years... just run the shell script they provide as root... rmmod nvidia, modprobe nvidia ... change xorg.conf to nvidia .. it should "startup"04:03
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varun0I have a folder (movies) on Linux box A that is shared via samba, with 777 permissions. When I mount movies on Linux box B to a folder (fileservermovies) that is chmod-ed 777, fileservermovies all of a sudden becomes 75504:03
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ShackJackeegore: Check out Xammp04:03
bruenigShackJack, do you have ubuntu installed or not, the answer to that question greatly changes the answer as to how to go about separating /home04:03
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showgunbruenig, do you know how to run the usb mouse without rebooting my ubuntu box cuz usually i reboot my box just to load my usb mouse?04:04
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ShackJackbruenig: Oh yes I have it installed, but I wasn't asking that - was asking Torahteen if he had his home partitioned04:04
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nexousHi, can anyone give me results of ndiswrapper in synaptic, I need exact names of utils and common i think04:04
bruenigshowgun, I think you have to restart the X server but I am not positive, next time try doing ctrl + alt + backspace and logging back in04:04
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bruenigShackJack, oh my fault04:04
rainmanHi, I'm new and need help04:04
ShackJackbruenig: My homes are partitioned (though possible of course post-install)... Been with ubuntu since Dapper :)04:04
Flokerhey guys i've got some trouble with my ftp server. i cant connect to it: it says "no route to host" when trying to "LIST -aL"04:04
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bruenigshowgun, ctrl + alt + backspace restarts the X server by the way if you didn't pick that up04:05
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bruenigShackJack, I misread, I thought you were asking how to do it04:05
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ShackJack:)04:05
dissectionbruenig: Okay, seems I've successfully removed my installation, and installed the one from Synapatic. But it too has the same problem, says cannot locate /etc/no-ip.conf although it said it was created when I configured it04:05
ShackJack!ask | rainman04:05
uboturainman: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:05
showgunbruenig, i did that ctrl+alt+backspace but still usb mouse wasnt loaded04:05
dissection*Synaptic04:06
bruenigshowgun, I don't know then, I have never used that so I am not familiar04:06
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showgunafter i logged in usb mouse wasnt loaded still04:06
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showgunhehehee ok bruenig04:06
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chukwhy does it take so long to mount an NFS share in ubuntu?04:06
Netham45'xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0xde000000,0x0) (Invalid Argument) on a Matrox G400 Dualhead while using the Matrox drivers tring to get dualhead running. Does anyone have any ideas?04:06
bruenigdissection, you may need to create it04:06
rainmanshackjack and ubotu, thanks, I just installed 7.04 and try to run for the first time and it didn't04:06
rainmanhere's the error04:06
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bruenigdissection, do dpkg -L no-ip (or whatever the package name was) see if there is an /etc/no-ip.conf04:06
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Netham45is there a way to disable framebuffer in xorg.conf?04:07
dcordesbruenig: err restarting x won't reload any usb_hid modules fyi04:07
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rainmanudevd-event[1957] : run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit04:07
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bruenigdcordes, so then he needs to modprobe something probably right?04:07
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rainmanusb 2-1 new low speed usb device using ohci_hcd and address 204:07
dissectionbruenig: No its not there, but when i ran "sudo no-ip -C", it said /etc/no-ip.conf was created. I went into the directory and it shows no-ip.conf is present04:08
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dcordesrainman: is it shon ub on lsusb?04:08
bruenigdissection, that seems like a program problem not an ubuntu problem, might want to find the no-ip people04:08
dissectionbruenig: In file explorer, unlike other .conf files, there's a red X on the top right corner of its icon.. Not sure if thats representing some kind of error?04:08
rainmansbin/sh: can't access tty; job contol turned off initramfs)04:08
FlokerI cannot connect to my FTP-Server via gFTP, however i can connect to it with ftp in a terminal. could anyone help?04:09
ShackJack!pastebin | rainman, for long messages, code, etc...04:09
uboturainman, for long messages, code, etc...: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:09
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r00723r0something's hogging my oss driver04:09
r00723r0and i don't know how to close it04:09
r00723r0does anyone know?04:09
rainmandcordes not sure04:09
vinayi have a curious "HIBERNATE_MODE=shutdown" in /etc/default/acpi-support .. lol...04:09
dissectionCrap, he's gone :(04:09
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crimsunr00723r0: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer*)04:10
dcordesrainman: check it out04:10
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showgunbtw, question, what is program is that being ran for modprobe?04:10
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r33ddl3rhalla04:10
rainmanshackjack & dcordes thanks, I'll write my msg and give you the url04:10
r00723r0crimsun: nothing is outputted from the nested command04:10
showgunmaybe that will enable my usb mouse just like booting04:10
dissectionWhen I open /etc/no-ip.conf in gedit, it says gedit has not been able to detect the character encoding. Why is that? What do I need to do tfix that?04:10
r00723r0crimsun: so it doesn't kill anything04:10
crimsunr00723r0: then use the entire string: lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/seq* /dev/snd/*04:11
r33ddl3rcan someone help me figure out why my CPU fan will stop as soon as I boot up Ubuntu?04:11
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dcordesr33ddl3r: that is extremly odd04:11
CVirusr33ddl3r: when exactly does it stop ?04:11
chukat what point does it stop?04:11
dcordesmaybe acpi issue04:12
ShackJackrainman: Thanks, but don't give to me personally, others are here to help -- first instinct is to unplug any erroneous usb device and restart... Or boot into recovery mode (from GRUB startup)- command line and do sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f install04:12
CVirusr33ddl3r: laptop or desktop ?04:12
Andyhough.. darn work.. guess I'll have to come back later04:12
r33ddl3rdcordes, it is.. dont think something is wrong w/the fan itself.. it can run for hours if booting into bios screen...04:12
r33ddl3rdesktop04:12
naterok, I have a compaq presario 2500.  Since installing feisty, my system crahses with a process overheating error.  never occured with windows and no modifications to the hardware has changed.  any ideas?04:12
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r00723r0crimsun: thanks, but i don't know what closed04:12
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r00723r0crimsun: any way i can find out?04:12
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rainmanshackjack, OK04:12
r00723r0crimsun: all i know is that volume control did :X04:12
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crimsunr00723r0: just don't kill it next time ;)04:12
r33ddl3rdcordes, stops at some point after grub, while loading some modules04:12
CVirusr33ddl3r: are you 100% sure it stops ... or it's sound just goes down ?04:12
r33ddl3rit stops.. and eventually my box shuts down from overheat04:12
r00723r0crimsun: right04:13
ShackJackrainman: I'd try and do the update anyway, then unplug and restart...04:13
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r00723r0crimsun: oh well, i'll figure it out next time04:13
CVirusr33ddl3r: try to boot with the kernel parameter acpi=off04:13
r33ddl3rdidnt do much more troubleshotoing though.. but wondering if anyone seen thys type of behavior.. guess not04:13
Bubbles25is there a way to get sound working over a remote desktop connection?04:13
dcordesr33ddl3r: what chipset is your mainboard? laptop one?04:13
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naterr33ddl3r, are you having processor overheating problems too?04:13
blackace11hey could i get assistance with my external usb harddrive... i screwed up the partitions and i can't access it04:13
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r00723r0btw, i completely forgot how to change $PATH04:13
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ari_stressid04:13
r00723r0does anyone know?04:13
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r33ddl3rdcordes, desktop... beats me what chip set.. i put it together from the scrap I found in attic :).. but it was running fine 24/7 on edgy04:14
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dcordesr33ddl3r: what kind of cpu?04:14
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blackace11hey could i get assistance with my external usb harddrive... i screwed up the partitions and i can't access it04:15
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rainmanshackjack, sorry I'm new to linux do I type in Grub> "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f install"?04:15
r33ddl3rp404:15
r33ddl3rintel04:15
nexousHow do I configure my wireless information via ubuntu-server. In desktop i had gui to change, but where will my ssid be for server edition?04:15
r33ddl3rnexous, try iwconfig, iwlist04:15
ShackJackrainman: No - select "recovery mode" from GRUB - should get you to command line where you can then do manual update... maybe problem with older packages...04:15
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ShackJackrainman: Then reboot -->   sudo shutdown -r now04:16
dcordesr33ddl3r: are you100% sure this does not occur with edgy and other os? and it is not the hardware?04:16
r33ddl3riwconfig ath0 essid "your essid"04:16
dmazhey, anyone know how to change the default colour of the cube when using compiz under Feisty? I'm using it for a presentation, so I don't want that tan tint over my slides at the top of the cube.04:16
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blackace11hey could i get assistance with my external usb harddrive... i screwed up the partitions and i can't access it04:16
r33ddl3rdcordes, it is not the hardware.. cuz if I log in to bios.. or if I pause at grub... it runs for hours.. also was fine in edgy04:16
naterdcordes: are you talking about processor overheating errors and then shuts down?04:17
dcordesnater: what?04:17
dcordesr33ddl3r: sounds like a severe bug in feisty. if i was you i would file a bug in launchpad04:17
IndyGunFreakblackace11: do you have the data on that drive backed up somewhere else?04:17
dcordes!launchpad | r33ddl3r04:18
ubotur33ddl3r: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/04:18
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cblack0I am having problems getting sound working on 7.04, I have looked at the community help pages. One clue is that alsamixer shows: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device04:18
dcordessomething with the acpi04:18
BlueLagunaHow do you redirect stderr again?04:18
naterThe issue that r33dl3r is having.  Is the processor on his laptop overheating when running fiesty?04:18
dcordesr33ddl3r: you could also find out how to boot with acpi turned off04:18
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cblack0I went thru sound settings trying different sound systems, but the sound test never works. I also made sure that no mixers show mute, but of course the mixers don't see a device anyway04:19
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dcordesthere is a boot setting for this noacpi04:19
cblack0this is a dell with onboard intel sound of some sort I believe04:19
dcordesnater: his cpu fan is turning off after booting feisty04:19
blackace11indygunFreak04:19
blackace11no04:19
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blackace11but i not concerend04:20
blackace11i just want to use the DRIVE04:20
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IndyGunFreakblackace11: well if you're not concerned about data on the drive, use gparted to repartition it.04:20
blackace11it wont mount!04:20
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blackace11it doesn't show!04:20
ShackJack!enter | blackace1104:20
ubotublackace11: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:20
dcordesblackace11: your drive has to be not mounted04:21
dcordesto partition it04:21
blackace11ok04:21
blackace11i know that04:21
naterOh.  My problem is slightly diffrent I think.  Fiesty shuts down laptop with an error about processor overheating.04:21
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blackace11in my windows it sees it in device manager... but that's about it04:21
IndyGunFreakblackace11: if you want to use it under WIndows, just format it.04:22
cblack0any clues on my sound issue? or places I should look/check for troubleshooting docs other than help.ubuntu.com which has not helped so far?04:22
kainhi i'm having a problem changing a folder... the subfolder permissions got changed but not the main folder (chown and chgrp)04:22
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ShackJackcblack0: You might check out the #alsa chat...04:22
dcordesblackace11: check dmesg if it is recognized and assigned to a /dev/ when you plugged it in04:22
kainthe path is Desktop/1.4.0_src04:22
cblack0thanks!04:22
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jayde_drag01hello all.. someomne was helping me before.. but i have 2 drives that i cannot mount .. i get the error that the logfile was unclean because windows did not shut down normally... i do not have windows anymore.. so i am unable to do the simple fix... i cannot lose the data.... i don't know the commands to run ntfsfix on the drives.. can anyone please help me?04:23
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blackace11not for sure04:24
blackace11it says something when i disconnect it04:24
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dcordesjayde_drag01: there is a package with ntfsfix called ntfstools it hink. but to walk around that check thing you can also force-mount it04:25
SeokeAlright theres a couple things I need help with #1 My open programs like Gaim and aMsn are not showing up in the top right corner anymore how do I get that to happen and on the bottom my windows that i have running arent taking up the entire menu bar they're all the same size and they're too small to read04:25
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swiftlyeverytime I use mldonkey, firefox shuts down. No warnings no bug reports, NOTHING. Any suggestions04:25
nexousHaving wireless troubles in ubuntu-server, installed wireless card drivers, but having trouble configuring.04:26
dcordesdcordes: first try apt-get install ntfstools && ntfsfix /dev/yourpartition04:26
jayde_drag01okay how do i get it  ... walk me thru.. but it might be easier if you pm me so that i can navigate away from this window and not lose what you are saying to me04:26
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naterCan anyone help me?  I have a compaq presario 2500 running fiesty.  After a short amount of time, my laptop shuts down with an error about the processor overheating.  Not a hardware issue.  Is there anyway to turn off this monitor to prevent this?04:26
jayde_drag01i am a complete newbie but i learn quick and i am nice.. and a girl to boot04:26
SeokeAlright theres a couple things I need help with #1 My open programs like Gaim and aMsn are not showing up in the top right corner anymore how do I get that to happen and on the bottom my windows that i have running arent taking up the entire menu bar they're all the same size and they're too small to read04:26
orange__I used wine but then i cant see works on steam for counter strike04:27
dcordesnater: turn off what monitor?04:27
blackace11ok so is there any code that i can input that will change ownership of myy usb harddrive?!04:27
orange__I type in wine steam.exe04:27
ShackJackHi - I want to build latest alsa from source  - any good guides for that (the whole make configure thing?)04:27
naterWhat ever is monitoring the processor temperature, or can I change the thresholds to prevent shutdown04:27
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dcordesnater: you mean the thing that slows down your fan?04:28
mneptokShackJack: if you need to ask how to use ./configure then you should *not* be installing a sound architecture from source.04:28
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nexousHow do I configure wifi on server 7.04?04:29
dcordesrespective controls it?04:29
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jayde_drag01how do i get ntfstools and install it?04:29
jayde_drag01can you give me the command line or something?04:29
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ShackJackmneptok: Ah O.K. was asking for someone else so I could refer them to it... Just though it could make some .debs from it and install...04:29
dcordesjayde_drag01: synaptic04:30
cafuegonexous: In many cases you don't, the server kernel package lacks the firmware needed for most wifi cards.04:30
ShackJackjayde_drag01: Or sudo aptitude install programname04:30
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nexouscafuego: no, I configured the drivers into ndiswrapper like I would in desktop version04:30
naterI don't think that is the issue.  Fiesty goes to a black screen and says that the processor is overheating and shuts down.  Never had a problem with XP, so I don't think it is a hardware issue.  I have noticed others in the forums with this issue, but no solutions.04:30
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nexousits just, with server edition i dont have the easy gui to change my essid,etc.04:30
rainmanshackjack, I sent you the url04:30
SgeoHi all04:30
SgeoHow can I determine what files a program tries to access while it runs?04:30
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jayde_drag01type synaptic in terminal?   or sudo aptitude into terminal?04:31
ShackJackrainman: Eh?04:31
blackace11ok so is there any code that i can input that will change ownership of myy usb harddrive?!04:31
dcordesnater: try booting with noacpi04:31
nexouscafuego: and I dont feel like installing ubuntu-desktop just to run one gui configuration when i can do it through server.04:31
naternoacpi04:31
rainmanshackjack, I clicked on your name and say open dialog window and typed in the URL04:31
mneptokShackJack: ALSA is one of those things taht if you screw it up, it's Real Bad(tm)04:32
jayde_drag01synaptic cannot find ntfstools04:32
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mneptokjayde_drag01: ntfs-progs04:32
rainmanshackjack here's the URL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30397/04:32
nexousActually, how do I just set it to use wlan rather than eth0?04:32
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skyfalcon866is it safe to use the computer while compilling a new kernel04:32
ShackJackmneptok: Yeah, having no sound issues though and don't have a solution for the live of me -- any other good sources of help for sound beside #alsa?04:32
osxdude|lapnd my comp is cold!04:33
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IndyGunFreakShackJack: whats your sound device?04:33
WHATYOUSAYI installed Ubuntu, but I forgot the username/password I entered when installing it. Is there any way to get around that?04:33
osxdude|lapoops04:33
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naterdecordes:  do I change that in the menu.1st in the grub loader to load noacpi?04:33
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blackace11ok so is there any code that i can input that will change ownership of myy usb harddrive?!04:33
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dcordesnater: maybe04:34
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natermaybe?04:34
ShackJackIndyGunFreak: SB [HDA ATI SB] , device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]  AND SB [HDA ATI SB] , device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]  both read on card 0 - Subdevice #0: subdevice #004:34
jayde_drag01please be step by step with me.. i'm guessing as to what you want me to do... ntfs-progs search in synaptics pulled up nothing and typing ntfs-progs into terminal did nothing04:34
dcordesdcordes: try adding the word noacpi to the line with the kernel you try to boot04:34
cafuegonexous: Ah ok, then just via either iwconfig or wpasupplicant, i suppose.04:34
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ShackJackIndyGunFreak: It reads like there's a card there, but no sound comes out - almost like it's directing the sound to the modem or something... #alsa folks weren't too helpful expcept to say to upgrade, but I had tried running Gutsy on it with newest alsa and still no sound...04:35
nexouswell when i type in iwconfig, i get my connection under wlan0 and lo and eth0 have no wireless extensions, but when i restart networking, it pings using eth004:35
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naterdecordes: do I add "noacpi" or "acpi=no"?04:37
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dcordesnater: I don't know04:37
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rainmanshackjack, did you see my post? here's the URL to the error I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30397/04:38
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ShackJackrainman: Yes, don't direct it to me personally, I can't necessarily help you, except what I said before...04:38
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meniskHow can I add a cursor theme to ubuntu04:38
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rainmanshackjack, what should I do? who do I directed to?04:39
naterQuestion to all.  I want to boot laptop with noacpi on fiesty.  Do I jsut add "noacpi" after the kernel?  Or, do I add "acpi=no"?  Or am I totally wrong.04:39
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ShackJackrainman: The channel  - restate your question, and perhaps someone can help you.04:39
ShackJackrainman: Include the pastebin, of course...04:40
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rainmanshakjack, thanks04:40
dcordesnater: google has the answer04:40
hypertypercan someone tell me what this would do? "five_star: alt+f2 cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp"04:40
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dcordes!google menu.lst noacpi04:40
rainmanHi all, I just installed 7.04 but it didn't run, the full description and error is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30397/ can anyone help please? thanks04:41
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naterdcordes: lol, I should of googled it.04:41
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kaini'm having chgrep/chown issues04:42
tenenginesAnyone out there that could help me with a dual boot question when installing 7.04?04:42
dcordes!ask | tenengines04:42
ubotutenengines: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:42
rainmantenengines what do you want to know?04:42
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tenenginesWhen I try to install and I get to the partition tool page, the automatic option says it will use the whole harddrive - doesn't that mean it will erase everything on there?04:43
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vinayhmm, I hook up a monitor to VGA port on my laptop and it works but resolution is wrong... how can i tell X to use 2 different resolutions based on the output screen?04:44
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tenenginesI don't see an option to squeeze back my current partition and add the new ones I need for 7.0404:44
rainmantenengines go to this url and see how it's done http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=60404:44
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jayde_drag0ni know someone here was helping me.. but i've been working on this for over 24hrs now without much help.. i realize i am a complete newbie and it is very annoying having to be explicit and step by step... but please please.. just IM me, AIM: the jayde drag0n  YIM: jayde_drag0n  MSN: jayde_drag0n@hotmail.com   can someone please help me?04:44
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MrGreencastl1Nautilus keeps crashing when I try to go to /usr/lib04:45
MrGreencastl1How do I fix this?04:45
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tenenginesThanks for the link - I thought I might have to partition in XP, before the install.04:46
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kaini'm having chgrep/chown issues04:49
ProN00bhmm, i heard firefox 2.0.0.5 was a security update, why isn't it/anything on my apt yet ?04:49
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berretGuys, I am not pretty much convinced with Linux and all. I'd like to be convinced to satisfy my self. Why should i quit windows XP and use Linux ubuntu? I want to enter this great world, but i'd like some enlightment?04:50
berretPutting money aside.04:50
revilodrawwhen i mark amarok for complete removal, remove it, then reinstall it, i dont need to download it...its just there... well i want to really get rid of it and reinstall it cos it lags heaps04:50
crimsunProN00b: ...people do sleep, ya know.04:50
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crimsunProN00b: there will be an update when asac has fixed it all up.04:50
yekoberret because it is the right thing to do04:50
revilodrawberret: if you have to ask then you should probably stck with windows04:50
kainberret: my laptop runs 10x faster on linux than vista04:50
ProN00bcrimsun, who sleeps ?04:51
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kevinmeza0708197Hi I am new in this IRC chat channel04:51
kaincan someone please help me change this folder04:51
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ProN00bthe bad guys don't04:51
kaini've been trying forever04:51
yekoknowledge should not be locked away...it should be shared04:51
FalstiusI have an Azalia onboard audio chipset (AD1986 I think, but lspci reports MCP51), and I'm trying to use the front panel connector in AC'97 compliant mode.  It works in Windows (front and back speaker ports), but in Linux I can only get the back one.  Anyone know how I can change this?04:51
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kevinmeza0708197I am actually looking for information regarding linux applications04:51
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crimsunProN00b: asac.  The guy who is at the distro sprint, who takes care of the *Ubuntu firefox package.04:51
notserpe_so... how do I fix a dependency problem with php5-ldap...04:51
yekojoin the community...a community that builds on each other04:51
cafuegoYou can laugh and wander off, but it'll do you no good!04:51
berretRevilodraw , I am intrested in Linux, but i cant find anyone who convince me to. :(04:51
notserpe_ php5-ldap: Depends: php5-common (= 5.1.2-1ubuntu3) but 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed04:52
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cafuegonotserpe_: Run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' first.04:52
notserpe_done that already.04:52
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HelpMeHi04:52
notserpe_I'm looking for help... not channel hoping... but hey... it's okay... this is IRC and I understand cafuego.04:52
kevinmeza0708197does anyone here knows a good application for editing audio to use in ubuntu?04:52
yekoberret...I was in Micro Center the other day...wandering through the software aisle...looking at all the crap you need to load...to secure windows04:52
cafuegonotserpe_: Any chance your mirror isn't up to date OR do you noty have security repos enabled?04:52
yekothen I see an older gentleman....looking at symantec software04:52
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HelpMeI have a problem04:53
kevinmeza0708197does anyone here knows a good application for editing audio to use in ubuntu?04:53
kainwe all have problems04:53
revilodrawberret; run the livecd, use the internet, play around, see if u like it...it will be slow on the livecd for obvious reasons, and the internet might be slow (disable ipv6 to fix this, ill tell u how if u want to know)04:53
kainno one seems to really be helping04:53
kevinmeza0708197does anyone here knows a good application for editing audio to use in ubuntu?04:53
dr_willis!patience04:53
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:53
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yekoNot sure how much symantec would set himback....on a retirement budget.......04:53
cafuegonotserpe_: ... there was a php5 security release yesterday04:53
HelpMeI cant change my reselution higher than 1024 bye 76804:53
AzMoo[w] !info maven04:53
ubotuPackage maven does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:53
AzMoo[w] ack04:53
kevinmeza0708197Somethign like adobe audition or anything else04:53
revilodrawkevinmeza0708197; audacity04:53
notserpe_this is an older 6.06 install04:53
obf213HelpMe04:53
ProN00bberret, xp isn't bad nowadays, and if it works for you, great, but when you think about formating/reinstalling, or even upgrading to anything (vista?) ubuntu is a great choice since its free, fast and just overall aweasome in alot of things (i don't know what you especially expect from your computer, so i can't go into the detail)04:54
obf213are you using an intel chipset04:54
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jengl1hi all.04:54
kevinmeza0708197Audacity, nice!04:54
yekoHe can get most of what he needs....from Linux.....ubuntu is helping to bridge the gap...much easier to install ...support04:54
kevinmeza0708197I will try that one! Thank you!04:54
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jengl1does ubuntu still support ppc chips?04:54
cafuegonotserpe_: I'd gamble that the package may not have been uploaded for dapper then, so the mirror is out of sync.04:54
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revilodrawkevinmeza0708197; sure!04:54
kaini'm having chgrep/chown issues04:54
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yekokain   ???04:55
obf213HelpMe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:55
ProN00bkain, why not try to tell us about your issues ?04:55
kevinmeza0708197just curious if there is a second choice besides Audacity?04:55
obf213yo. how do i get a link to my home folder on teh desktop04:55
jengl1does ubuntu support powerpc chips?04:55
notserpe_cafuego: so what do I do?04:55
kaini need to change Desktop/1.4.0_src to kain kain and not root root04:55
Latch_\disconnect04:55
revilodrawkevinmeza0708197; have u tried it yet?04:55
kaini got all the subfolders changed but not the root folder 1.4.0_src04:55
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bulmerobf213: yo learn about symlink  man ln04:55
dr_willisobf213,  a link to what? use 'ln -s' from the shell is one way to link directoriues around04:55
yekochmod kain:kain filename04:55
kevinmeza0708197yes and I need a little more complex software04:55
kevinmeza0708197if there is nay04:55
yekochown  kain:kain filename04:55
kevinmeza0708197any04:55
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revilodrawhow do i completely delete amarok so feisty has never heard of it then reisntall.... because amarok is running really poorly for me..04:56
yekoI mean04:56
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kevinmeza0708197like I said I am new to linux and Ubuntu04:56
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revilodrawkevinmeza0708197; hmmm i dont really know sorry, i would google for 'linux audio editor' or something04:56
kevinmeza0708197I am in love with ubuntu and really I am considering moving from Windows04:56
ProN00brevilodraw, apt-get remove ?04:56
kainkain@kain-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo chown kain:kain 1.4.0_src04:56
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oanneshi04:56
HelpMeok04:56
oannesHow do you mount a smbfs via mount?04:57
T1m3L0rdi'm trying to NAT but it doesn't work.  does ubuntu have a firewall by default04:57
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kainfolder permissions still say root root04:57
HelpMeobf213:  sorry, i diskonected04:57
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revilodrawpronoob; when i do that and reinstall it doesnt need to redownload it, its still there04:57
oannesI tried mount -t smbfs username=name 192.168.1.40/HDD_a  /media/nas04:57
kevinmeza0708197Thank you very much for your help!04:57
bulmerrevilodraw: try apt-get remove packagename or dpkg --purge packagename04:57
HelpMeobf213:  where you helping me?04:57
yekoI installed Jokosher....but haven't tried it yet...It may be an alternative to Audacity04:57
revilodrawbulmer; ok thanks04:57
bulmerT1m3L0rd: iptables is installed but default install has no rules set04:58
HelpMeOk, i need help.  I cant change my resalution higher than 1024 bye 75804:58
AveroHello all! Just a quick question. Does anyone know if Gutsy has support for Compiz-Fusion + Xinerama, or any other way to get similar results across three X screens on two (identical) video cards.04:58
T1m3L0rdok04:58
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ProN00brevilodraw, the package will stay the same, even if you redownload it, otherwise you would get an error when installing saying it is corrupt04:58
dr_willisHelpMe,  and your video card is a? and you have installed the proper drivers for it?04:58
kainyeko: still nothing04:59
obf213HelpMe yes04:59
kainthe permissions still read root:root04:59
obf213i just fixed my resolution04:59
obf213https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:59
HelpMeobf213:   Um04:59
kaini'm thinking i may have to login as root to delete the folder04:59
HelpMeobf213:  how do i find what video card i have?04:59
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rich1hi.  i installed fwcutter and the bcm firmware on a fresh install of feisty.  it works but it drops out a lot.  can anyone help with the dropping, please?04:59
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revilodrawpronoob; yeh, but i dont really redownload it.. i try but it just installs straight away... it doesnt need to redownload it cos it still has it!04:59
kevinmeza0708197wow05:00
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bulmerkain if its a folder you need to provide the option -R to chown05:00
kevinmeza0708197very impressed with audacity05:00
kainyeko: no error05:00
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AzMoo[w] kevinmeza0708197: yes, audacity is awesome.05:00
ProN00bkevinmeza0708197, there also seems to be something called ardour05:00
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obf213HelpMe go to system preferences then hardwar05:00
dissectionHi, i have a question. So I need to add a command to sessions... Its something like ......    abcd -option1 -option2 -option3... do I need to put that in quotes?05:00
kaini get a new prompt after the sudo command05:00
kevinmeza0708197Ardour? Hummm will try that one!05:00
kaindone that05:01
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carter_Hey05:01
HelpMeMobile 945GM/PM/GMS/940GML obf21305:01
kevinmeza0708197I have been hours in the internet also searching for a astrology software for linux05:01
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kevinmeza0708197but have had no luch05:01
bulmerdissection: what program is that for?05:01
obf213HelMe05:01
obf213ok yeah05:01
kevinmeza0708197no luck05:01
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Babaloohello...!  =)05:01
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obf213HelpMe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:02
dissectionbulmer: INADYN running as daemon05:02
r33ddl3rastrology? :)05:02
r33ddl3rhttp://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_list.php?id_kategory=11705:02
r33ddl3rtry here05:02
kevinmeza0708197Does anyone here knows if there is a astrology software for linux?05:02
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dissectionbulmer: I have to use inadyn -u username -p password -alias hostname, etc etc05:02
bulmerdissection: did you try to read the README file that came along with it?05:02
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dissectionbulmer: So I want to run it at startup05:02
obf213HelpMe scroll to intel graphics i81005:02
DeadLockedI cleared my MBR on my NTFS drive following a suggestion of how to fix a problem. Now I cannot see my internal NTFS drive at all. Is there a way to fix this.05:02
dissectionbulmer: Yes but I didn't find anything about adding it to sessions05:02
r33ddl3rkevinmeza0708197, that link has something on astronomy.. might ifnd astrology too :)05:03
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HelpMeobf213:   i alredy tryed that but it dident work.  Befour, i installed somthing from add/remove that made it work05:03
bulmerdissection: you create a script and put a symlink of it to   /etc/init.d/05:03
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kevinmeza0708197I'll try that one!05:03
bulmerdissection: what sessions?05:03
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obf213HelpMe... did you reboot.05:03
rich1my bcm4318 card is dropping out a lot.  i'm using the fwcutter method.  can anyone help, please?05:03
obf213because i had to05:03
dissectionbulmer: To let it run when I start Ubuntu05:03
bulmerdissection: is it a program that runs like a daemon?05:03
JohnoHow do I edit my boot file05:04
obf213help did u edit the /etc/x11/xorg.conf to say intel like it said05:04
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Johno?05:04
dr_willisJohno,  clarify what you mean by 'boot file'05:04
bulmerJohno: boot files is a binary..you dont edit it just like that05:04
dissectionbulmer: I could run it in terminal, or let it run as a daemon. I prefer daemon cause it'll update the dns if my IP has changed05:04
yekoWhy do you want do edit your boot file?05:04
kainyeko: kain@kain-laptop:~$ ls -ld Desktop/1.4.0_src; id05:04
kaindrwxrwxrwx 16 kain kain 4096 2007-07-18 20:54 Desktop/1.4.0_src05:04
kainuid=1000(kain) gid=1000(kain) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),112(netdev),113(lpadmin),115(powerdev),117(admin),1000(kain)05:04
kainkain@kain-laptop:~$05:04
revilodrawi have removed amarok, and now reinstalling "0 B have to be downloaded" i want it to need to redownload amarok... i want it to forget amarok ever existed05:04
kaingrrr it doesn't act like that is the case!05:04
kainWTF05:05
JohnoI'm trying to get my modem to work and it says to edit somthing05:05
HelpMeobf213:  i dont get it, i installed it, but it says somthing i dont understand05:05
bulmerdissection: you create a script and put a symlink of it to   /etc/init.d/  <-- scripts here are started at boot05:05
HelpMeobf213:  it says this: Then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the   Driver "i810"     to   Driver "intel"05:05
obf213yeah05:05
revilodrawHelpMe; what type of computer do u have?05:05
obf213HelpMe ok05:05
dissectionbulmer: I don't know how to script :S05:05
obf213HelpMe so now you've have installed it.05:05
bulmerdissection: now is the best time to learn it05:06
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HelpMerevilodraw:  lenovo05:06
HelpMeobf213:  yesh05:06
obf213HelpMe you have to edit a file now05:06
HelpMeok05:06
HelpMehow?05:06
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revilodrawHelpMe; and you r trying to install feisty and are having x problems?05:06
obf213HelpMe05:06
obf213ALT+F205:06
obf213gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:06
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obf213do that05:06
dissectionWhats an easier way to do it?05:06
HelpMerevilodraw:  i have festy, and what r X problems?05:07
Johno"Add an option "pci=routeirq" to the kernel boot up line" thats what it said and I need to know how05:07
DeadLockedI cleared my MBR on my NTFS drive following a suggestion of how to fix a problem. Now I cannot see my internal NTFS drive at all. Is there a way to fix this.05:07
dissectionbulmer: Won't it work if I add the command to sessions?05:07
carter_You cleared your MBR deadlocked?05:07
revilodrawhelpme; dont worry, the other ppl helping u know what they r doing :)05:07
HelpMeok, now what obf21305:07
obf213ok did the file open.05:07
obf213a file should have opened05:07
bulmerdissection: what is the sessions you are referring to? btw..come on pick up a book to learn scripting :)05:07
DeadLockedcarter_: On my NTFS drive, Yes.05:08
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Johnohow do I edit the kernel boot up line?05:08
dissectionbulmer: System > Preferences > Sessions05:08
DeadLockedcarter_: It doesnt have anything on it but files. No OSes.05:08
carter_Did you keep a back-up copy?05:08
HelpMeobf213:  yes05:08
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dissectionbulmer: Man I just need to run it on startup, I can't learn programming for that05:08
dr_willisexcuses... :)05:08
obf213HelpMe now scroll down05:09
MrGreencastl1Nautilus keeps crashing when I try to go to /usr/lib   I've tried running under root, and the same thing, any help?05:09
obf213through the information05:09
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carter_Deadlocked, did you back it up?05:09
HelpMeobf213:  ok05:09
obf213helpme you will see something that says display or something and it will have a driver called i810. change that to intel like it says05:09
bulmerdissection: well..thats not the right place to put it..take a look at /etc/init.d/   this directory has the S*  for startup..copy one05:09
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kevinmeza0708197could someone please tell me how to install "astrolog" in ubuntu05:09
revilodrawamarok worked great in edgy, but lags like a biatch in feisty05:09
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MrGreencastl1revilodraw try exaile05:10
quaali was just noticing that05:10
quaalit greys out quite a bit05:10
revilodrawkevinmeza0708197: use synaptic05:10
quaalbut i have all my music in it05:10
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rich1can anyone help with my wireless dropping out?05:10
quaalis there a better alternative to amarok ?05:10
DeadLockedcarter_: No. Is there a way to recover/fix the MBR. I used hiren's bootcd. That's how I broke it atleast.05:10
kevinmeza0708197thanks will try that05:10
obf213ok guys i suck at this sym link thing05:10
conorkirkpatrickHow do I get Wanda to stop swimming accross my screen? :D05:10
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HelpMeIntegrated Graphics Controller obf213?05:10
MrGreencastl1quaal not really but try exaile05:10
carter_Deadlocked, check my pm05:10
revilodrawMrGreencastl1; i have exaile but it hasnt got anything on amarok!05:10
yekoquaal   I like vlc05:10
carter_that will make this easier05:10
obf213on sec05:10
obf213let me open the file05:11
quaalyeko, vlc is good for video05:11
quaalbut not much of a library05:11
DeadLockedcarter_: ok05:11
MrGreencastl1revilodraw no it doesn't but it runs much nicer in gnome05:11
yekoI use vlc for video and audio05:11
vinaysoo.. being a long time debian user.. im thoroughly impressed by how ubuntu kindof just "worked out of the box"05:11
yekoAlmost all my podcasts on vlc05:11
kevinmeza0708197You guys are awesome!!!!!05:11
revilodrawMrGreencastl1; amarok used be beautiful in edgy05:11
quaalwell you just drag files into vlc then05:11
kevinmeza0708197you know everything05:11
MrGreencastl1revilodraw but I use last.fm anyway05:11
obf213yes it sunder that05:11
Johnohow do I access the package manager?05:11
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obf213HelpMe what does the driver say05:12
revilodrawkevinmeza0708197; theres over 1000 ppl in here, someone will always help05:12
dissectionbulmer: There's screen, sendsigs, single, skeleton, stop-bootlogd, stop-bootlogd-single, stop-sreadahead, sysklogd....05:12
bulmerdissection: i take that back..maybe you can put one there on that sessions startup programs tab..but i have not done it before..so do a trial n error style ..:)05:12
HelpMeobf213:    it says "I810"05:12
revilodrawjohno; system, administatration05:12
obf213HelpMe ok good05:12
HelpMeobf213:  change it?05:12
obf213HelpMe change it to intel05:12
obf213all lowercase05:12
HelpMeobf213:  and save?05:13
KI4IKLI have the bittorrent gnome thing...what port does it use so I can open it on firestarter?05:13
obf213in between the quotes05:13
kevinmeza0708197:)05:13
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obf213yes help me then save05:13
DeadLockedcarter_: BRB. Still send PM. I just have to go check something.05:13
MrGreencastl1Can someone please help, Nautilus keeps crashing when I go to /usr/lib05:13
obf213then restart05:13
HelpMeobf213:  ok05:13
obf213then you will have an option to change the resolution05:13
obf213to highter05:13
dissectionbulmer: I've put some programs in there before and it worked on startup.... But not sure if I need quotes for those -option1 -option2 whatever thats called05:13
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carter_Then access it from the termanl MrGreencastl105:13
dissectionbulmer: How do I know if it worked? How do I get a list of daemons05:13
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obf213hey whats the "itunes" for gnome05:14
swiftlyhey what is a 'Segmentation Fault' - firefox keeps crashing and I ran it in a shell to see what it said and yeah05:14
carter_itunes doesn't have a linux version05:14
MrGreencastl1carter_ I tried it still crashes, even under root05:14
obf213i used amarok on kubuntu is that chill will ubuntu05:14
bulmerdissection: ps aux  will tell you which processes are running then look for the one that normally end in d  like httpd05:14
carter_when you cd from the terminal the terminal crashes?05:14
revilodrawobf213; it used be chill with edgy but lags like crazy with feisty05:14
carter_what version are you running?05:15
MrGreencastl1carter_ no nautilus05:15
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carter_use the terminal then05:15
MrGreencastl1using cd works05:15
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MrGreencastl1but05:15
Vsop_vsop_vsophey folks??05:15
obf213revilodraw any suggestions... i haven't used in linux in about  6 months im out of the loop lol05:15
bulmerdissection: try it..see if it works or without quotes05:15
rich1hi.  i need help with wireless dropping, please.05:15
MrGreencastl1I want to look for a specific file in there05:15
MrGreencastl1but I don't know what its called05:15
carter_what's the file?05:16
bulmerMrGreencastl1: use the command find05:16
revilodrawobf213; exaile i the plain jane version of amarok and its made for gnome...05:16
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dissectionbulmer: Is there a way I can save the results from ps aux into a text file? I typed that but the result is too big and it doesnt let me scroll05:16
MrGreencastl1thats what I said05:16
obf213revilodraw is it called exaile.05:16
carter_MrGreencastl1 what's the file?05:16
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bulmerrich1  no guarantee that wireless does not disconnect05:16
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DeadLockedcarter_: ok Back. You send that PM yet?05:16
obf213revilodraw nvm05:16
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carter_yeah05:16
MrGreencastl1something for screenlets 0.0.805:16
carter_look on the side panel05:16
MrGreencastl1I'm trying to get it working05:17
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revilodrawhow do i install the kdesktop without doubling up on icons in the menus?05:17
bulmerdissection: you need to start reading up on linux commands..redirection, piping, page, more, less..05:17
MrGreencastl1carter_ I had the previous one, but I want the new one05:17
swiftlyCan someone tell me what a segmentation fault is?05:17
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ub-303hello05:17
carter_what's the file though MrGreen?05:17
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ub-303how do i mount a disk in livr cd mode05:17
ub-303example to backup a crashed os05:17
MrGreencastl1carter_ I don't knew what its called05:17
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obf213if i put my music on the fat32 partition will the my music players in windows and linux be able to axess them05:18
carter_then how can you find it?05:18
revilodrawub-303; it should mount automatically05:18
carter_yes obf05:18
GamingXCan someone recommend a book to learn shell commands in detail?05:18
MrGreencastl1carter_ the tutorial said to just run them, its in a folder05:18
kevinmeza0708197I installed astrolog using synaptic package but I don{t see the application installed in ubuntu?05:18
MrGreencastl1in /usr/lib/screenlets05:18
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carter_okay so do this05:18
obf213carter thanks.05:18
swiftlykevin...: use the sehll05:18
kevinmeza0708197does anyone knows what could be the reason?05:18
carter_cd (directory)05:18
carter_ls05:18
MrGreencastl1or something similar, thats why I want to use nautilus05:18
carter_find the file05:18
carter_then type ./(file)05:18
revilodrawkevinmeza0708197: type in terminal 'astrolog'05:19
carter_That should work for you MrGreen05:19
dr_willisGamingX,  thers dozens if not 100's of web sites that help ya learn the shell. The definitive book is "using bash' by the O'reialy guys05:19
DeadLockedcarter_: I sent you a PM.05:19
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MrGreencastl1I'll try that05:19
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rich1bulmer: should it be dropping regularly?  could it be my router?05:19
carter_dead, I didn't get it.  do you have aim?05:19
revilodrawhow do i install the kdesktop without doubling up on icons in the menus?05:19
DeadLockedI have MSN.05:19
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carter_damn05:19
bulmerrich1: it could be ...what happens?05:19
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carter_let me try pm one more time05:19
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obf213guys is it safe to use hibernate and suspend w/o doing any configurations in 7.04. or is it still shady. i am using a laptop05:19
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DeadLockedCan i run AIM through pidgin.05:19
DeadLockedI cantry to rember my info05:19
carter_my aim is freemuncie05:20
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swiftlywhat is a Segmentation Fault - firefox keeps crashing05:20
sayersDeadLocked, ofcorse...05:20
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carter_what do you do to cause firefox to crash?05:20
carter_is it when you go to a specific page?05:20
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rich1bulmer: i'll just be online and it goes out.  i have to /etc/init.d/networking restart of ifdown ifup a couple of times to get it back.05:20
codesnikhello. in which package locales are contained? i've installed ubuntu with "no localization" and now i have only C and POSIX locales :\05:21
swiftlycarter_: just generally browsing and than *whomp* nothing05:21
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bulmerswiftly: wiki for a segmentation fault05:21
carter_hmmm, what version of firefox are you running?05:21
rainmanguys, my first 7.04 install didn't work, so I re-installed and now it's working. but I need help in getting the screen resolution correct. I have Optiquest 19" widescreen monitor 1440x900 how do I get the res correct? thanks05:21
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ub-303OMG05:21
DeadLockedhi(11:21:06 PM) Unable to send message: Not logged in05:21
DeadLocked(11:21:06 PM) freemuncie is now known as Free Muncie.05:21
ub-303it accually found te disk05:21
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ub-303<305:21
carter_rainman, google xorg.conf05:21
ub-303ttyl05:21
MilitantPotatoArgh.05:21
rainmancarter thanks05:22
noldonhi i have a problem why dont i have /etc/inittab?05:22
mavericki have a queer problem with networking here. When i try to use my LAN messenger (www.ipmsg.org) it shows only me and the users appear after some time. I have even tried using the windows version using wine. still the same, can anyone help?05:22
bulmerrich1: how far is your AP? channel you're attempt to connect on? neighbors AP using same channels? metals between you and aP?05:22
swiftly1.5.0.5 or something - hey that might be my prob05:22
MilitantPotatoFor some reason I cant have /home on a seperate partition, ubuntu wouldn't load05:22
maverickthis even happens with counterstrike and stuff05:22
mavericki have tried changing MTU and my IP05:22
Vsop_vsop_vsopOk so about this record my desktop... i have hear some conflicting things about.. so i tried to get it myself and the cmd seems to be dead and no one can tell me where to get it... anyone?05:22
crysalysSmartx2: my dual boot worked flawlessly05:23
rich1bulmer: ap is about 60 ft away.  in my house so no real metal interference.05:23
vinayso i got this ubuntu install.. how can i make it look pretty..  or.. where can i get more themes?05:23
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carter_swifty, try going up to 2.x05:23
carter_you can download it from the repos05:23
Vsop_vsop_vsopvinay.. why not use beryl.. that makes things pretty cool05:24
carter_better yet, get automatix, and let it install switftfox05:24
noldonhow do i change to runlevel 305:24
swiftlythanks carter_ just about to get it now.05:24
bulmerrich1: try an experiment with your client closer to the AP and see if it still happens05:24
mavericki have a queer problem with networking here. When i try to use my LAN messenger (www.ipmsg.org) it shows only me and the users appear after some time. I have even tried using the windows version using wine. This happes even with counterstrike and other LAN applications. I have tried changing my IP Address and my MTU, still the same, can anyone help?05:24
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rich1bulmer: ok.  can you or anyone recommend a pci card that will "just work"?  my card now is a bcm 4318.05:25
vinayVsop_vsop_vsop: i followed some instructions to install compiz fusion ... perhaps that was not such a good idea.. hehe.. it crashes!! and i get no window decorations.... (probably a bug)05:25
carter_rich1, I'm running off of bcm4318 right now05:25
carter_it was very little trouble set-up05:25
Vsop_vsop_vsopvinay: well i am on 6.10 here and it works just fine my laptop.05:25
carter_rich1, have you tried getting wifi-radar?05:26
JohnoI'm trying to put a file into etc/udev/rules.d but it says I do not have permission how do I do this?.. With a terminal?05:26
vinayVsop_vsop_vsop: is that beryl or compiz fusion?05:26
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bulmerrich1 i wish i can sell you mine.. :)05:26
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Vsop_vsop_vsopvinay. beryl05:26
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Vsop_vsop_vsopuseing xrog.05:26
Vsop_vsop_vsopxorg***05:26
nextse7enHey guys, how do I run the default bit torrent from the command line?05:26
carter_there isn't a default bit torrent05:26
rich1carter_: i use wifi-radar and love it.  are you using fwcutter or ndiswrapper for you card?05:26
bulmerJohno: then use sudo to get temporary root priviledge05:26
thebighamhow do i remove the disk drive from desktop???05:26
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carter_ndiswrapper05:26
carter_I'm using the install script from the forums05:26
carter_have you tried it?05:27
bulmerthebigham: make sure the power is off.then detach it.. :)05:27
Johnocan I drag and drop after typing sudo or do I have to do it through the terminal?05:27
vinayVsop_vsop_vsop: okay... perhaps i should try beryl.. compiz may be too cutting edge... and i think i'm on some sort of apt source that sends me nightly binaries.. !05:27
nextse7enAnyone? command to run bittorrent from the command line?05:27
DeadLockedcarter_: Are you logged into AIM?05:27
carter_yes05:27
carter_freemuncie05:27
rich1carter_: i used it before but someone told me to use fwcutter because feisty supported bcms better.05:27
bulmernextse7en: which client do you use?05:27
thebighamno lol, i mean the disk drive icon from the desktop05:27
nextse7enI can't find it in my applications menu.05:27
MilitantPotatoWhat backup programs do you all use?05:27
carter_Do what you want, but I love ndiswrapper05:27
DeadLockedBARDUSDIABOLUS  <--add me05:28
Vsop_vsop_vsopwhat distro are you useing05:28
carter_I've been using it since beta05:28
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nextse7enthe original bittorrent.05:28
Johnohow do I move a file using terminal?05:28
hypertyperanyone know why my screensaver is translucent since i installed compiz?05:28
carter_mv file destination05:28
thebighamthat is the windows partition drive, i couldnt move the icon from desktop to the trash can05:28
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francisJack_Sparrow: hey I got the bcm43xx working with ndiswrapper05:28
rich1carter_: and can you get more than 11mps with it?05:28
bulmernextse7en: if you know the application..from the terminal type its name with full path if necessary05:28
Vsop_vsop_vsopvinay: what ubuntu you useig05:28
carter_yup05:28
vinayVsop_vsop_vsop: 7.0405:28
francisthough i had to reinstall 7.0405:28
bulmerthebigham: right click on the icon and delete?05:28
MilitantPotatosedu mv path/filename path/filename to move files05:28
carter_well, not right now cause I'm pirating neighbor's wifi05:28
MilitantPotatocp is copy05:28
carter_but theoritically I can05:28
rich1carter_: ok.  i'm going to try it.  wish me luck.05:29
LususX_Johno: mv /path/to/file /path/to/new/location05:29
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thebighamnope, i cant click on that05:29
carter_use the script though05:29
bulmercarter_: shhhh..am doing same..hehehe05:29
Vsop_vsop_vsopya i have the set up for 6.10.. no  word on how it will work on 7.405:29
nextse7enyeah, therin lies the problem, bulmer, I don't know where the path is to it... It only opens when I dl torrents.05:29
thebighamtheres a option that says unmount volume05:29
jfalconerHey guys. I'm  looking for some support... but not the traditional kind :)05:29
carter_bulmer, I won't tell05:29
vinayVsop_vsop_vsop: alrighty.. will play with it. thanks :-)05:29
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rich1carter_: the one posted by darknoob?05:29
carter_yeah05:29
Vsop_vsop_vsopvinay.. here05:29
Vsop_vsop_vsopcheck this out05:29
bulmernextse7en: umm try locate torrent  and maybe it will show up on the list05:30
jfalconerthis may be of interest to all ubuntu listeners of all experience levels05:30
rich1cool.  thanks carter and bulmer.05:30
nextse7enbulmer, k05:30
carter_no prob05:30
bulmeryou'e welcome05:30
carter_pretty soon, you can steal wifi like me05:30
revilodra1i didnt appreciate suspending my inspiron 6400, closing the lid, opening the lid for it to come out of suspend, and having no screen05:30
Vsop_vsop_vsopVinay: and i am sorry i ment to say Xgl not xorg..05:30
rich1brb if it works.05:30
Vsop_vsop_vsophttp://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html05:30
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jfalconeri recently spoke to Vorian from the ubuntu marketing team. we discussed a theme song for ubuntu and i'm working on a demo to send him and see where to go from there05:30
Vsop_vsop_vsoplook at that .. and follow it step by step and Shazam05:30
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jfalconerbut in the spirit of open source i wanted to get some input from the ubuntu userbase05:30
MrGreencastl1Does anyone here use screenlets?05:31
jfalconerso anyway... if you want, check out http://www.midnighthaulkerton.com/alfadir/ where some of my music is, and let me know what you'd like to see in a ubuntu theme song05:31
Johnohow do I edit a file that it says I do not have permission to?05:31
bulmerjfalconer: maybe you can compete with those Obama girls, Clinton girls, or Guilainnis girls? hehehe political youtube flicks05:31
jfalconeri can also be emailed at joelfalconer@midnighthaulkerton.com05:31
Vsop_vsop_vsopso about this record my desktop.. anyone have the proper install?05:31
jfalconerLOL yeah I saw those bulmer, i was almost sick!05:31
carter_Johno, google cmod05:32
DeadLockedcarter_: Where you able to add me?05:32
carter_what's your name DeadLocked05:32
DeadLockedBARDUSDIABOLUS  <--add me05:32
carter_sorry Johno chmod05:32
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AzMoo[w] If I put a var in /etc/environment it will be set for all users, right?05:32
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jfalconerAnyway in case anyone missed it, that's http://www.midnighthaulkerton.com/alfadir/ (free, Creative Commons music) and I really appreciate feedback and input into what would make a great Ubuntu theme song :)05:33
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revilodra1how do i install the kdedesktop without doubling up on menu items?05:33
Vsop_vsop_vsopok i will go for a cigar...  ( record my desktop ) looking for some info on it... when i get back we will see how things pan out for me !!!05:33
bulmerAzMoo[w] : i dont think so...type just the word set  and see that you have more env variables05:33
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MilitantPotatoCan someone tell me a backup program that backs up the whole OS?05:34
Johnohow do I edit it with out changing the permissions?05:34
yekoMilitantPotato   mondo does a great job05:34
dr_willisJohno,  sudo editoryoulike filenameyouwanttoedit05:34
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yekoWe are using it on our production servers05:34
^Carter^why do you want to back up a whole OS militant Potato?05:34
MilitantPotatoFreeware yeko?05:34
berent!rcp  > MilitantPotato05:34
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dr_willisrevilodra1,  i never noticed the menu items doubling up.05:34
^Carter^Probably the best way to to just iso it though05:34
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Johnohow do I use just regular text editor?05:35
bulmerMilitantPotato: you have an installation cdrom or DVD right?05:35
noldonwhy dont i have /etc/inittab05:35
yekoYep...the community has great support05:35
berent!rcp05:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rcp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:35
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MilitantPotatoYes bulmer, CDR05:35
dr_willisJohanSalim,  find a console/text based text editor you like.. or use 'gksu graphicaleditoryoulike'05:35
dr_willis!editor05:35
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code05:35
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MilitantPotatoI'm wanting to back it up so I can try that 3d desktop05:35
berentIs there any light 3d game05:35
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bulmerMilitantPotato: so no need to backup the os..use your CDR next time if you have to recover05:35
MilitantPotatoLast time I tried Coriz or w/e, trashed my install05:35
arifahadihadi05:35
GamingXAre shell commands in Red Hat Linux same as Ubuntu?05:36
bulmernoldon: what os do you have and what version?05:36
MilitantPotatoSo if I do recovery from the CD it will retain all my settings but remove the extra scripts and crap from installing stuff?05:36
bulmerGamingX: pretty much same same...bash05:36
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dr_willisGamingX,  the bash shell.. is the bash shell...   most all the 'commands' that are used in the shell are the same.. theres a few littel extras/changes here and there.05:37
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dr_willisGamingX,  learn the fundamentals..  then the shell knowledge you gain should also work on BSD, or UNUX, or SOlaris, or perhaps evven OS-X :)05:37
mavericki have a queer problem with networking here. When i try to use my LAN messenger (www.ipmsg.org) it shows only me and the users appear after some time. I have even tried using the windows version using wine. This happes even with counterstrike and other LAN applications. I have tried changing my IP Address and my MTU, still the same, can anyone help?05:37
rainmanhelp, I jsut installed 7.04 with user Sam (me) what is the root password? I was never asked for it05:37
bulmerMilitantPotato: the settings are there normally..recovering dont normally involve resetting config files..but if you like you can always make a copy of file you consider config files for your settings05:38
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MilitantPotatoWill it reverse poorly installed mods?05:38
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francisHey what's the difference between beryl/composite and Desktop Effects ??05:38
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julio14hello05:38
bulmerGamingX you want to see all the bash command available to you?05:39
sunnypieswhats the command to update my nvidia drivers?05:39
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bulmerMilitantPotato: dont know..just keep a copy of the ones you're really wanting to keep05:39
thullyfrancis: Desktop Effects = compiz, beryl=a fork of compiz.  Beryl/Compiz are now merging together to form Compiz Fusion, which will be in the next release...05:39
revilodra1dr_willis: hmm ok05:39
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MilitantPotatodo I want mondo doc or ...?05:40
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francisthully: thankss05:40
thullyGenerally, Beryl has more features, but Compiz is thought of as being more stable05:40
NemesisDfrom the prompt, how do i start x to the login screen?05:40
noldonbulmer i just installed ubuntu 7.04 amd6405:40
dr_willisNemesisD,  'startx'05:40
bloois anyone familiar with the yaboot bug regarding initrd images >6MB? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yaboot/+bug/26426)05:40
dr_willisNemesisD,  logical eh?  :)05:40
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francisthully: i have a lot of issues with beryl on my laptop05:40
dr_willisNemesisD,  sudo kdm or gdm get the login screen going..05:40
rainmanguys, is there a default password for root? I just installed upuntu and only created a login for me05:40
MilitantPotatoyeko: mondo-doc_2.2.4.tar.gz or mondo_2.2.4.tar.gz05:41
bulmernoldon: and it does not use /etc/inittab? i wonder what it uses05:41
francisdisplay frezes when i flip terminals05:41
dr_willis!root05:41
ubotudo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo05:41
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thullyWell, you can disable and try Compiz (Desktop Effects) and see if that works better05:41
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noldonbulmer me to05:41
NemesisDdr_willis, that did the trick, thank you!05:41
rainmanubotu thanks05:41
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)05:41
francisthully: is there a manager like beryl for Composit ??05:42
sunnypiesanyone know the command how to update my nvidia drivers?05:42
franciswhat about emerals ?? can i used those themes with composit05:42
francis?05:42
NemesisDuh oh, this sounds bad "Internal error: failed to initialize HAL!"05:42
dr_willissunnypies,  if there are newer ones in the repos and you have them installed then they should get included with  your apt-get update . updates05:42
thullyfrancis: I don't think you can use all the themes, but there is some extras for compiz.  Open synaptic and search "compiz" to see what there is05:42
MilitantPotatoyeko: 7.0405:43
MilitantPotatoI'm not registered, can't PM :(05:43
bulmernoldon: see if you have /etc/event.d05:43
thullyThere is also Compiz Fusion, which you can find at a few third-party repositories.  That05:43
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sunnypiesdr_willis: oh ok yea i just did apt-get update so i should be good then right?05:43
thully's what Gutsy (7.10) will have05:43
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dr_willissunnypies,  yes.05:43
sunnypiesdr_willis: isn't there a glx command to verify in the terminal?05:43
thully!compiz fusion05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compiz fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
dr_willissunnypies,  ive never noticed.. :)  never worried about it..05:44
noldonyes i do05:44
GamingX2005As I was asking before I was disconnected, is learning bash, shell commands necessary to become a pro in Ubuntu?05:44
dr_willissunnypies,  the versions in the repos are not the latest and greatest nvidia version either.05:44
dr_willisGamingX,  Yes.05:44
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dr_willisGamingX,  want to learn linux, learn the shell.05:44
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GamingX2005So what books do I learn it from?05:44
dr_willisGamingX,  'using bash' and 100000+ web sites....05:44
dr_willis!abs05:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about abs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:45
Johnohow do I instal kernel header packages to compile a driver?05:45
dr_willisGamingX,  the 'advanced bash scripting guide' is a must read also05:45
berentIs there any light 3d game05:45
dr_willisberent,  try 'slune' ?05:45
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dr_willis!info slune05:45
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noldonbulmer but i dont know how to change it to runlevel 305:45
ubotuslune: 3D racing and car-crashing game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 10442 kB, installed size 25832 kB05:45
blooanyone netboot ubuntu on a ppc?05:45
dr_willisif its in the repos. :)05:45
TorahteenAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!05:45
bulmernoldon or for anyone...i just found out myself... Feisty uses upstart /etc/event.d instead of /etc/inittab05:45
GamingX2005The Advanced Bash Scripting guide is by?05:45
roxygirlhey, anyone know why i can't get music files transferred to my mp3 player with amarok?05:45
berentdr_willis : thanks05:46
ptn107sunnypies: having the    nvidia-glx        package installed uses  the 96.31 drivers,   having  nvidia-glx-new     installed uses 97.5505:46
TorahteenThe ubuntu upgrade killed my wireless set up! :(05:46
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dr_willisGamingX2005,  its not a book its a howto.. check tldp.org or google for it. Its in the repos also.05:46
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TorahteenI had ndiswrapper all set up and working fine, but the upgrade from dapper to edgy removed ndiswrapper05:46
sunnypiesptn107: thanks i will do that05:46
Johnowhat are the kernel headers packages?05:46
noldonbulmer ok so how do u change to runlevel 305:46
^Carter^so install it again Torahteen05:46
^Carter^use Darknoob's script from the forums05:46
ptn107sunnypies: try not to have both installed simultaneously, that could be bad05:46
TorahteenIt took me about 8 hours to figure it out last time05:46
TorahteenDarknoob's script?05:47
Torahteenlink?05:47
sunnypiesptn107: ok05:47
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noldoncuz i need to get out from x and into a tty consol so i can install nvidia drivers05:47
yekonoldon telinit 305:47
bulmernoldon may i refer you to upstart.ubuntu.com05:47
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Falstiusto answer my own question from earlier, to get front panel audio working I had to add options snd_hda_intel model=3stack to a file in /etc/modprobe.d/05:47
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Vsop_vsop_vsopso about this record my desktop. any takers?05:47
MilitantPotatoyeko: mondo-doc or mondo?05:47
bulmernoldon i assume you can try gdm stop05:47
^Carter^Torahteen, search for it on the ubuntuforums.org05:47
dr_willisFalstius,  go put it in the forums so others can find the answer. :)05:47
bulmernoldon locate gdm first though05:48
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noldonok05:48
Torahteen^Carter^ What will I be searching for?05:48
^Carter^darknoob ndiswrapper05:48
^Carter^you'll know it when you see it05:48
Torahteenok05:48
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TorahteenThanks05:48
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TorahteenGonna upgrade to Feisty now first though05:48
^Carter^what torahteen, what chipset are you running?05:48
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TorahteenUmm... not sure05:48
TorahteenI think it's a broadcom though05:49
^Carter^okay05:49
TorahteenIt's a linksys wireless-G PCI card05:49
^Carter^ah never mind, then just install it manually05:49
^Carter^Don't use the script Torahteen05:49
^Carter^I forgot it was for a specific chipset05:49
ptn107sunnypies: i think i saw that you need to run         sudo nvidia-glx-config enable        after the install05:49
Torahteen*sigh*05:49
TorahteenOk05:49
MilitantPotatoyeko: Yes, I'm in synaptic looking at it now, about to approve the instal05:49
MilitantPotatoinstall05:49
TorahteenI'm gonna have to ask a friend to help me again05:49
TorahteenHe got it working for me last time05:49
JohnoI need help installing somthing05:49
TorahteenAnyway, bye, next time I see you I'll be in feisty :)05:50
NemesisDugh why is this happening, im trying to configure my network connection and i get "you are not allowed to access the system configuration"05:50
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Johnoit say in root directory run $ make all and when I type that it says no rule to make target all05:50
bulmerNemesisD: did you sudo ?05:50
sunnypiesptn107: ok whats the command to install?05:50
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NemesisDbulmer, this is from the menu, it asked me for a password and took it05:51
bulmerJohno: what tarball you download? did untar it and cd'd to that  directory?05:51
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Johnooh I have to put it in root or did it mean where ever I  put it?05:51
bulmerNemesisD: well is it the correct password?05:51
ptn107sunnypies: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new              it should automatically remove the    nvidia-glx package automatically, check before you hit Y to continue05:51
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NemesisDbulmer, i believe it would have told me if it wasnt. and now the password prompt isn't coming up05:52
bulmerJohno: where did you download it at? go there and untar it from there05:52
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Johnoits untared05:52
MilitantPotatoyeko: very nice, bet they're glad to have ya05:52
Johnoand it gave me a folder05:52
dr_willis'root' has many different meanings in linux. :)05:52
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dr_willis the root directory of the source would be the 'topmost' direcoty of the soruce tree05:52
Vsop_vsop_vsopso i tired this (     sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop gtk-recordmydesktop  ) and i get this " E: Couldn't find package recordmydesktop05:52
bulmerJohno: you must learn to prefix your responses with a nick or i may miss it if directed to me05:53
MilitantPotatoyeko: so how do I run it :D05:53
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MilitantPotatolet me get the manual05:53
dr_willisVsop_vsop_vsop,  try apt-cache search record | less and look for it.05:53
FireDemonSiCO.o05:53
Johnobulmer: ok05:53
dr_willis!find mydesktop05:53
ubotuFound: gtk-recordmydesktop, recordmydesktop05:53
dr_willis!info recordmydesktop05:53
uboturecordmydesktop: Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 128 kB05:53
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FireDemonSiCdoes anyone know the administrative password for a livecd (if there is one?)05:53
bulmerNemesisD: which program did you use to reconfigure your network?05:54
dr_willisFireDemonSiC,  there is none.05:54
FireDemonSiCcrap05:54
FireDemonSiCthought so05:54
FireDemonSiClol05:54
dr_willissudo whatever05:54
FireDemonSiChave to wait for the install to finish to compile SDL05:54
dr_williswhould do it i thought05:54
Netham45what methods are available for encryption on a Linux system?05:54
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FireDemonSiCi have to emerge the SDL library through the console05:54
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Vsop_vsop_vsopWell now..shall we try this again05:54
FireDemonSiCcant access the root terminal without administrative pass :(05:54
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sunnypiesptn107: cool it worked,   then i used the command glxgears to see if it worked05:55
FireDemonSiChah glxgears05:55
bulmerNetham45: umm what do you want to do? ssh is encrypted connectivity05:55
FireDemonSiCreminds me of when i was trying to get FireGL working05:55
Vsop_vsop_vsopwhere was i...   oh ya .. this record my desktop.. how do i find it?05:55
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NemesisDbulmer, im trying to use the network manager applet05:56
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GamingX2005I have a Nvidia Geforce FX 5200, what are the best drivers, I used the nvidia-glx drivers and was not able to startup, and now I rolled back the changes, so what are the best drivers for it?05:56
bulmerNemesisD: what happened after you typed your password? nothing displayed?05:56
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jerkfacehi, im trying to compile something from a 7.04 livecd, but i keep getting errors like stdlib.h: no such file or directory05:56
dr_willisGamingX2005,  the nvidia-glx should of worked..05:57
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dr_willisjerkface,  live cd dosent include the compiler stuff.05:57
NemesisDbulmer, that error came up05:57
Johnobulmer: I am trying to install something and it is not working can I give you the wiki link and ask from there?05:57
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jerkfaceso then it's useless!?05:57
ptn107GamingX2005: try the     nvidia-glx-new   package05:57
dr_willisjerkface,  depends on your needs i guess...05:57
cyanacthow could i get updatedb to index mounted drives in /media?05:57
Vsop_vsop_vsoplike i said i typed in this      sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop gtk-recordmydesktop  ... .and got E: Couldn't find package recordmydesktop05:57
dr_willisjerkface,  im suprised it even has gcc on it.05:57
bulmerNemesisD: you said nothing happened the next time around?05:57
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GamingX2005someone recommended envy...05:58
Johnoblumer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent then Martian05:58
ptn107GamingX2005: just dont forget to run a    sudo nvidia-glx-config enable      afterwards05:58
dr_willisGamingX2005,  i dont reccomend it...05:58
NemesisDbulmer, the error comes up now but without the prompt, also this guide im using sucks, it asks me to apt-get 2 packages that sure as heck aren't on the CD :|05:58
bulmerJohno: you said you already un-tar it right? whats the directory name where you untar it to?05:58
ptn107GamingX2005: envy may be a possibility but im not familiar05:59
dr_willisGamingX2005,  on a new install - i can get my nvidia cards going in about 3 min.. :)05:59
MilitantPotatoyeko: where does the manual download to?05:59
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Johnobulmer: ~/Desktop?05:59
dr_willisGamingX2005,   I tend to just install the 'restricted manager' package and let it do the work05:59
bulmerNemesisD: well if its not on the CD, if your source.list is updated, it will use that to find the package you need05:59
Falstiusdr_willis: I did put in the forum, with lots of google friendly details.05:59
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|_ockewell i got halflife 2 demo running in steam in wine, but the display is only in one corner06:00
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roxygirlhas anyone used amarok to transfer music files to an mp3 player?06:00
bulmerJohno: okay..so in your Desktop..what the name of the dir created after you untar-ed?06:00
NemesisDbulmer, how am i supposed to update it with no internet connectivity06:00
|_ockeand only goes a little bit past halfway displaying, so no bottom and right of the screen, but its accelerated06:00
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Johno~/Desktop/martian06:00
bulmerNemesisD: good point..06:00
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Johnobulmer: ~/Desktop/martian06:00
bulmerJohno: cd to that martian dir06:00
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JohnoI did06:01
bulmerJohno: there should be a Readme file, did you read it?06:01
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Johnobulmer:I read the install file and did everything and it didn't work06:02
NemesisDbulmer, i just need to forward an internet connection to this computer via a lan cable06:02
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bulmerNemesisD: lets try this...can you visit your /etc/networking/interface  and see which card is defined06:02
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NemesisDbulmer, auto lo \n iface lo inet loopback06:03
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Johnobulmer: the wiki says somthing about installing build-essential and kernel headers packages to compile the driver06:05
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varkagood morning06:05
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MilitantPotatoHow do you run something as root?06:05
KamiNoIttehi, i can only06:05
bulmerJohno: yes those are needed as minimum to compile06:05
GamingX2005For beginners to linux,is "Beginning Ubuntu Linux: From Novice to Professional" by Keir Thomas and Apress publishers good enough because it is the only one I have.06:05
jerkfaceok, how do i install the build-essentials .deb package06:05
varka!sudo | MilitantPotato06:05
ubotuMilitantPotato: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:05
MajorPayne!sudo | MilitantPotato06:05
bulmerNemesisD: whats the iface ?06:05
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varkafirst ^^06:05
thullyMilitantPotato: sudo <command> will do it06:05
MajorPaynevarka: :-|06:06
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MilitantPotatobah I was typing sodu06:06
Johnobulmer: How do I install them?06:06
NemesisDbulmer, just says iface lo inet loopback, i assume i would be looking for eth0 but it is absent from this file06:06
m87hi06:06
m87my na,e is marcos06:06
bulmerJohno: umm try  apt-get install build-essentials06:06
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m87hola06:06
Johnobulmer: do I need an internet connection to do that?06:07
NemesisDbulmer, will you be on for a bit? i have to run right now but ill be back on in like an hour or 2 :/06:07
maverick<kris> umm no as in webblog stuff06:07
maverick<morph> oh06:07
maverick<kris> like for templates and themes06:07
maverick<kris> lol06:07
maverick<morph> yeah06:07
maverick<morph> i don't06:07
maverick<morph> but some ppl here do06:07
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KamiNoIttei can only start the live cd on this HP laptop and when i specify a specific resolution and after install the loadscreen comes up and all i get in the end is a background-lit black screen06:07
hamadoooi need help guys06:07
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hamadooou want to upgrade    my ipw3945 driver06:07
jerkfaceoh jesus dont bother w/o internet johno there is a list of dependencies a mile fucking long06:08
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jerkfacecall me when ubuntu is a half-way decent os06:08
bulmerNemesisD: i may..not sure though06:08
hamadoooi want to upgrade  my ipw3945 driver06:08
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bulmerJohno: yes your puter must be connected to the internet to download those files06:09
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Johnothats the problem I'm installing a modem driver so I can be on the net06:09
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Cypher2Ubuntu media player does not read this html code <param name="loop" value="true">06:09
Cypher2O_O06:09
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Cypher2I am shocked06:10
Johnobulmer:I'm on a different computer right now06:10
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NemesisDbulmer, actually i can talk to you on this laptop but i won't have access to the computer in question until then :P06:10
MajorPayneJohno: If you want you could download the packages on another computer and transfer them over with a CD.  Then install them with dpkg -i.  There may be an easier way that someone else may be able to help you with.06:10
nj786whats a good dvd plkayer for ubuntu06:10
nj786player06:10
Cypher2VLC media player 9i think06:10
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bulmerJohno: a big delimna. :(06:10
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saxinYeah, VLC is nice.06:10
bulmerNemesisD: okay06:10
Cypher2Just VLC media player no 9 :P06:10
JohnoMajorPayne: where do I get the files06:10
NemesisDprobably wont do me much good06:10
Andyhoyea back again! LOL06:10
yekoVLC is great!!06:10
Johnobulmer: can I transfer from one computer to another?06:10
Cypher2Go to add and remoove programs and type in VLC06:11
Cypher2on seach06:11
Cypher2search*06:11
monkeyydd06:11
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bulmerJohno: yes..transfer a file?06:11
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nj786saxin: yea i just tried VLC and the sound comes blurry and the video quality comes out loww pixel06:11
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MajorPayneJohno: http://packages.ubuntu.com/06:11
Johnobulmer: like the build-essential06:11
monkeyyexcuxe me, anyone knows Chinese ubuntu channel?06:11
Flannel!cn | monkeyy06:12
ubotumonkeyy: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk06:12
bulmerJohno: umm..i dont know all those dependencies..so it may be a bit difficult06:12
monkeyythanks so much!!06:12
nj786saxin?06:12
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Johnobulmer: ok06:12
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MajorPayneJohno: Yea.  Dependencies would be a problem.  But it would work if you take the time to do it.06:13
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varkaJohno: you will "need build-essential" and "linux-headers-`uname -r`"06:13
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LDZ420!JSON06:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about json - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:13
Johnovarka: ok06:13
rich1bulmer: hey, bulmer.  just checking back to let you know ndiswrapper is working.  thanks again.06:14
ExiledSoldierI want to dual boot Ubuntu with Windows XP using two seperate HDD's and I want to know if I need to reformat my current Windows HDD as well as the one i'm going to use for Lunix.  Can I do that?06:14
bulmerrich1 congrats..perseverance is a must :)06:14
Johnowhat version is 6.06?06:14
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varkaJohno: but you are right, these metapackages, or at least build-essential, so you really need their dependencies06:14
saxinJohno: dapper06:14
Johnovarka: what do you mean by dependencies?06:15
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maverickhi06:15
rich1bulmer: and if iwconfig is right, it's at 54mps.  yessss!06:15
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Johnohow do I check what version mine is?06:15
MajorPayneJohno: Some packages depend on other packages.  They are called dependences.06:15
maverickI have a queer problem with networking in ubuntu 7.04. When i try to use my LAN messenger (www.ipmsg.org) it shows only me and the users appear a long time one by one. I have even tried using the windows version using wine. This happes even with counterstrike and other LAN applications. But when i did a ping sweep with nmap, i could see many users alive. This problem occurs in Fedora and Mandriva too. I do not have any firewall to my knowledge. I have06:15
maverick tried changing my IP Address and my MTU, still the same, can anyone help?06:16
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varkaJohno: the package "build-essential" itself is empty it just depends of several other packages that are needed to compile things and will install them if you install the metapackage06:16
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nj786how do  iget an update on VLC06:16
Johnovarka: can I dl the meta package and transfer it?06:16
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MilitantPotatoyeko: thanks a lot, this looks to be much better then the last one I grabbed06:17
varkaJohno: you can, but it doesnt help you, as you need its dependencies also06:17
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Johnohow do I know the dependencies?06:17
varkaJohno: these two packages are quite essential, so i think you could be lucky finding them on your install-cd06:17
berentdr_willis : i am getting a error saying there is no module named soya upon installing slune06:18
PolarisHey, stupid question, but I'm paranoid: would it be any kind of illegal to buy a domain name that is a linux command?06:18
MajorPayneJohno: Try this:  "sudo aptitude install -s build-essential"06:18
MajorPayneJohno: That will tell you all the packages you need.06:18
dr_willisberent,  interesting.. let me try it here.06:18
Johnook06:18
MajorPayneJohno: Or, at least it might.06:18
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MajorPayneI never tried it without network access.06:18
FrogzooPolaris: doubtful - but this isn't really legal support here06:18
dr_willisberent,  try sudo apt-get install python-soya06:18
PolarisFrogzoo: I know, but I dont know of any place with a Lawyers of Linux chat room06:19
sagemattAny quick way to install the necessary packages for a LAMP server? A single apt-get line, for example.06:19
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Polarissagematt: sudo tasksel06:19
Polarishighlight LAMP06:19
Frogzoo!offtopic | Polaris06:19
ubotuPolaris: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:19
Andyhocan someone help me figure out my dang nvidia card? I'm at such a loss.. I've tried just about everything I can find in the forums and such06:19
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ExiledSoldierI want to dual boot Ubuntu with Windows XP using two seperate HDD's and I want to know if I need to reformat my current Windows HDD or if I only need to reformat the one I'm using for lunux.06:19
berent!pastebin06:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:20
sagemattPolaris: Awesome, thanks.06:20
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PolarisExiledSoldier: neither.  Just look up how to modify your grub config file to boot both of them.06:20
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varkaJohno: just put in your install-cd and try to install those two packages06:20
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Johnovarka: how do I do that?06:20
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MajorPayneAndyho: What do you mean "figure out my dang nvidia card"?06:21
berentdr_willis :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30400/ i will brb06:21
keenenI do i shut down program that i can click on and right click it06:21
varkaJohno: with sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`06:21
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keenenMy dock thing does not let me right click it and i cant shuty it down06:21
Johnovarka: how does it know to do that from the cd?06:21
dr_willisberent,  slune just core-dumped on me.. :( bummer06:21
varkaJohno: or with opening Siystem->Administration->Synaptic, searching for those packages and installing them06:21
ExiledSoldierPolaris: well I need to reformat the one for Linux anyways.  How can I reformat it?06:22
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dr_willisberent,  i recall some bug in the package ages ago.. it may still be there. :(06:22
Andyhoberent: I keep getting "failed to start the x server"06:22
PolarisExiledSoldier: Planning on using Ubuntu?06:22
ExiledSoldierPolaris: yes.06:22
varkaJohno: it should recognize it if it is put into drive06:22
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PolarisExiledSoldier: Just pop in your Ubuntu CD and boot to it, and once it boots into the liveCD click on "install."  The Ubuntu installer will take care of all formatting/partitioning automatically.06:23
noldonwhy is my computer running a fsck on one of my partitions every time i boot and i get a message about it using a filesystem with errors06:23
shad0w1ehey, anyone know about ubuntustudio? my install got botched and most of my packages are missing. is there any way to quickly add all missing packages?06:23
noldonand it dosnt continue the check06:23
PolarisExiledSoldier: as a matter of fact, if you have both hard drives installed while youre installing ubuntu, it might even be able to modify your GRUB config to boot your other hard drive automatically.06:23
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ExiledSoldierPolaris: and I can choose weather the Linux HDD is a master or a slave right? in this case my slave drive will be ubuntu.06:23
Andyhoand if I type sudo nvidia-settings I get... nvidia-settings:5584 gtk-warning cannot open display06:24
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Johnovarka: after I put in the cd what do I do?06:24
varkaJohno: with sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`06:24
chowmeinednoldon: the filesystem could be corrupted, the hard drive could be failing06:24
BehnamFedoraAndyho, have you thought about writing exit ?06:25
dissectionHow do I remove something I added to the menu?06:25
BehnamFedorabecause in reality when you close a console, the root session is not closed06:25
Johnovarka: what is uname?06:25
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PolarisExiledSoldier: I strongly recommend making your XP drive the slave drive.  If you make your XP drive master you will have to install GRUB on a Windows partition table, and windows REALLY doesnt like it when you do that.06:25
varkaJohno: its a command to show your current running kernel06:25
noldonchowmeined ok but when it fail i just press control-D and it continue booting and it also mounting the disk06:25
AndyhoBenham: if i type exit all it does is bring me back to a command line06:25
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BehnamFedoraJohno : uname is a comande for having informations on your cpu architecture, your kernel version and arch, etc06:25
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ExiledSoldierPolaris: will that change the performance of my Windows at all?06:26
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BehnamFedoraAndyho, yes exactly ! continue until the console close06:26
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GamingX2005Does ubuntu open .chm files?06:26
chowmeinednoldon: ok06:26
maverickhttp://www.file-post.com/view_code.php?id=59406:26
chowmeinedGamingX2005: see xchm or gnochm06:26
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MajorPayneBehnamFedora: I don't think you know what his problem is.06:26
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manicfor a 64bit machine, how much paging should I have if I like to run big apps (like animation & CAD)?06:26
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KamiNoItte whats the shortcut to bringup a console window?06:26
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chowmeinedmanic: depends how much ram you have06:26
manic4gb06:27
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BehnamFedoraMajorPayne, well, for me when I have this problem it's just because I haven't closed all the root session i've opened06:27
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noldonand it call the harddrive warez-linux but i have set it to be mounted on wares06:27
MajorPayneAndyho: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"06:27
chowmeinedmanic: well for those kinds of apps, if you hit the paging file... it will ruin your performance06:27
PolarisExiledSoldier: No, as long as you don't screw anything up.  Heres what I'd recommend: first, install the operating systems on each drive seperately, making sure only one dirve is plugged in at a time so you dont accidentally overwrite anything.  Then plug them both in with Ubuntu drive as master and XP as slave and look around for a guide on how to make GRUB boot a Windows XP slave drive.06:27
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chowmeinedmanic: is your ram filling up?06:27
chowmeinedmanic: you could try just 1GB to see how it goes06:27
MajorPayneBehnamFedora: His x server isn't starting.06:27
BehnamFedora_oh_06:28
chowmeinedmanic: you can expand it later06:28
manicI haven't configured the machine yet06:28
Johnoit said it couldn't find the linux headers file06:28
Andyhomajor - if I do that though does it go back to my original settings?? because I've done that and then I can reboot back using my onboard, but not my other vid card06:28
BehnamFedoraMajorPayne, don't you agree with me that when you don't close the root session, it can make problems  ,   it's what I thought06:28
sagemattExiledSoldier, there is an option at the end of the Ubuntu install to specify where to install GRUB.06:28
MajorPayneBehnamFedora: I have no clue what you are talking about.06:28
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varkaJohno: but it installed "build-essential" from cd?06:28
sagemattExiledSoldier, hd0 would be your first drive (Windows, probably) and hd1 would be your Ubuntu drive.06:28
chowmeinedmanic: but with 4GB of ram, you shouldnt be running out of ram very often06:28
dr_willisick. :) heh id hope not.06:29
Johnovarka: it didn't say anything about build-essentials06:29
MajorPayneAndyho: Try disabiling your onboard in your bios.06:29
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manicchowmeined: I can run out of RAM06:29
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MajorPayneAndyho: Then try that command again.06:29
chowmeinedmanic: yea.. you can06:29
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varkaJohno: lets try it one by one, type first: sudo apt-get install build-essential06:29
BehnamFedoraMajorPayne, well, when you open lot of consoles with root session, at a moment, you can't even launch a graphic program06:29
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chowmeinedmanic: but (hopefully) it shouldnt be happening too often06:29
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MajorPayneBehnamFedora: To launch a graphical program as root you use gksudo.06:30
AndyhoMajor: yep, already did that.. switched it from onboard to pci.. as soon as I go to load ubuntu it freezes up.. then I go back to the bios switch it back to onboard, reboot and end up with a command prompt saying that xserver didn't load06:30
ExiledSoldierPolaris: My Windows is already installed do I need to reformat it as well or can I leave it as it is?06:30
JohnoVarka: I did and it says I need the edgy cd06:30
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PolarisExiledSoldier: you can leave it as is06:30
varkaJohno: well, i thougth you put it in already06:30
Johnowhich i dont have06:30
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Johnono I have the dapper cd06:30
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MajorPayneAndyho: You say Ubuntu freezes up when you are rebooting?06:31
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varkaJohno: so you upgraded it over the internet, right?06:31
ExiledSoldierPolaris: thanks for the help.06:31
manicchowmeined: windows example: think about running autodesk inventor with hundreds of parts being driven my a Common Lisp with the entire COM interface loaded into it06:31
PolarisExiledSoldier: check your PM06:31
JohnoI think06:31
varkaJohno: from dapper to edgy06:31
AndyhoMajor: yep. as soon as I enable the nvidia in ubuntu, then shut down, go into bios enable pci and reboot it starts to load and then freezes up06:31
varkaJohno: ok, this makes things a lot more difficult :/06:32
murdockgeneral question..in ubuntu 7.04 is there anyway i can do a non-gui installation?06:32
Johnono I had to download the alternite cd and it must have been edgy06:32
MajorPayneAndyho: Where does it freeze up.  Does it say anything on the screen?06:32
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Andyhoit's just the standard ubuntu with the orange bar under it06:32
varkaJohno: well, then put it in06:32
chowmeinedmanic: well start with 1GB of swap.. 2GB if you really feel you need it.. you can add more later, and unless you are really limited on hard drive space, it should be an issue... yes?06:32
manicchowmeined: would I want 6gb of paging?06:32
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chowmeinedmanic: btw.. what are you planning on using on linux?06:32
JohnoI tried06:32
orbisvicisquestion: nexuiz vs. tremulous ?06:32
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mooseinmudmurdock...there is a text installer different iso i think06:33
gcarrilloyay i think i solved my bittorrent problem06:33
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chowmeinedmanic: if you think you need it.. and you have the HD space.. go for it06:33
orbisviciswhich is nicer, & which is more fun?06:33
MajorPayneAndyho: Ahh right.  I think F2 will disable the splash screen so you can see where it freezes up.06:33
manicSBCL, Open Genera, VMWare06:33
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chowmeinedmanic: maya?06:33
varkaJohno: so you are pretty sure, the cd you have put in is an edgy one, but the comman sais its not? right?06:33
manicno, Mirai06:33
JohnoVarka: got it I had to put it in the other drive06:34
ExiledSoldierPolaris: PM?06:34
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varkaJohno: fine ^^06:34
Andyhok one sec I'll restart it and see..06:34
MajorPayneAndyho: F2 when you see the splash screen will take you to a console to see what is loading.  But I am not sure if that will help you or not.  You can try it.06:34
manicmaya would be fun though06:34
rainmanquestion, how do I move a file from comp2 (vista) to comp1 (ubuntu) I have both terminal open in linux06:34
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varkaJohno: so installation of "build-essential" went flawlessly?06:34
chowmeinedmanic: maya has a nice native linux version06:34
Johnovarka: yes06:34
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manicis it like $10k?06:35
gcarrillodoes dalnet still work?06:35
chowmeinedmanic: yup06:35
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manic:)06:35
MajorPaynegcarrillo: I am on DALnet now.  But that is a bit off topic.06:35
chowmeinedmanic: i think there is a personal learning edition... which blasts watermarks all over everything06:35
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varkaJohno: fine, then lets keep it simple, type "uname -r" into terminal06:35
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Johnook06:35
dissectionmanic: 10K is for the ultimate edition, there's complete version thats around $6K06:35
manichave you ever heard of Mirai?06:35
gcarrilloheh06:35
intangirim using the ubuntu bootup disk, and i need to boot a windows partition from off of it06:35
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chowmeinedmanic: no06:35
JohnoVarka do I include the generic?06:36
varkaJohno: and then "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-<what that command put out>06:36
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manicchowmeined: www.izware.com06:36
gcarrillook it just takes a long time to connect06:36
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chowmeinedmanic: cool, ill look at that.. im not really an art person but..06:36
MajorPayneintangir: I suggest using your Windows CD and fix the MBR with it.06:36
varkaJohno: just try, you will see, if it is on the cd or not06:36
chowmeinedmanic: have you used blender? :)06:36
dissectionHow do I add removing something that I've added to my menu using alacarte? It doesn't show up there when I run it again. I have duplicate entries to an application and need to remove them.06:36
intangirMajorPayne: i dont have a windows CD06:36
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Johnovarka: couldn't find06:36
manicchowmeined: what is that?06:37
SirSherlocki need to knw which is faster to run a UBuntu Server..celeron 1.2Ghz or Pentium 933mhz??????06:37
dissectionSorry for the repeat, don't know if someone already responded. I got disconnected06:37
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intangirMajorPayne: thats the problem this laptop never came with a CD, i copied the restore partition to another disk and installed linux, but now i cant boot the partition cause the MBR is gone06:37
chowmeinedmanic: open source 3d modelling program.. the interface is kinda funky though imo06:37
Amaranthdissection: If it doesn't show up when you run alacarte a second time logout and it should be gone from the menu06:37
varkaJohno: thats bad but solveable, wait a second06:37
chowmeinedmanic: http://www.blender.org/06:37
rainmanguys, how do I copy a file from vista to ubuntu while in linux I see the file on vista but how do I copy it?06:37
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manicchowmeined: is it a C++ program?06:37
intangiri know how to make grub load it, but i removed grub already..06:37
chowmeinedmanic: but people have made some incredible 3d stuff in it06:37
intangiri think this LiveCD is using grub somehow, i just dont know how to make it boot it06:37
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SirSherlockrainman: www.ubuntuguide.org06:37
varkaJohno: please tell me what the command "uname -r" said to you06:37
MajorPayneintangir: Ahh.  I don't know, can't help you.06:37
SirSherlockthen look for ntfs-3g06:37
Amaranth!ntfs06:37
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:38
Amaranth!ntfs-3g | rainman06:38
uboturainman: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:38
dissectionAmaranth: Then how do I add something there and let it stay after I logout?06:38
chowmeinedmanic: i think its in C06:38
Johnovarka:2.6.17.10-generic06:38
Andyhomajor: nope doesn't disable the splash screen :/06:38
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varkaJohno: ok, wait06:38
rainmanubotu, thanks06:38
Amaranthdissection: if you add something in alacarte it'll stay until you remove it in alacarte06:38
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)06:38
SirSherlockanyone, whats faster pentium III 933mhz or celeron 1.2ghz06:38
chowmeinedmanic: but look through the gallery, people make some amazing stuff with it06:38
manicchowmeined: I'll try it.06:38
MajorPayneAndyho: Humm.  Ok, sorry.  Your problem is a little beyond me :-(06:39
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manicchowmeined: I get my new machine friday06:39
AndyhoMajor: LOL no prob! I just noticed something else weird too.. my wireless keyboard is flashing like it's not connecting either06:39
dissectionAmaranth: Well whatever I add isn't showing up there when I run it again06:39
chowmeinedmanic: do you use photoshop?06:39
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manicchowmeined: sometimes06:39
MajorPayneAndyho: Not to say it can't be helped.  Just not by me.06:39
Amaranthdissection: you have to logout06:39
Andyhooh well.. guess I go back to onboard and try and figure it out later! Thanks for your help though Major!!06:40
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Amaranthdissection: gnome-menus is broken, it doesn't update the menu or alacarte sometimes06:40
manicchowmeined: I'm primarily a CAD person06:40
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Andyhonight all!!06:40
chowmeinedmanic: ah ok06:40
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chowmeinedmanic: one sec...06:40
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varkaJohno: you will have to download this, put it on whatever medium you have to exchange it with you other pc and install it with "sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic.deb" http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.17%2Flinux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb&md5sum=ec2770850d4038d804419540d10a3663&arch=i386&type=security06:40
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Johnovarka thanks06:41
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chowmeinedmanic: there is brl-cad.. for designing solid objects06:42
chowmeinedmanic: http://brlcad.org/06:42
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varkaJohno: sry, the command isnt right, it is: "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/your/medium/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb"06:44
grayhaneHow can I get a usb ext hard drive to work in ubuntu ? it will only come up in read only mode ?06:44
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chowmeinedmanic: how are you planning on using autocad?06:44
manicchowmeined: I wonder what kind of interface brlcad has for programmers06:45
manicchowmeined: VMWare06:45
chowmeinedmanic: not going to work06:45
manicgraphics drivers?06:45
alphaanyone nowhere i can find the modem in kubuntu?06:45
chowmeinedarent you doing 3d?06:45
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manicchowmeined:  yeah, 3d in autocad?  sure.06:46
jayde_drag01someone who has an IM screen name of Yani i think was talking to me.. could you please pm me again?06:46
chowmeinedmanic: vmware will choke on 3d06:47
manicchowmeined: autocad has it's own software graphics drivers06:47
sangeethahello all06:47
manicchowmeined: opengl i will do under ubuntu06:47
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chowmeinedmanic: http://directory.fsf.org/productivity/cad/06:48
chowmeinedmanic: see if any of those might be useful to you06:48
jayde_drag01or... could i please get someone who's really knowledgable to IM me.. i really really need help.. AIM: the jayde drag0n YIM: jayde_drag0n MSN: jayde_drag0n@hotmail.com  please please help?06:49
manicchowmeined: I will bookmark that url06:49
Johno!whoops06:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about whoops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:49
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manicchowmeined: I am writing a knowledge-based engineering system, and i only need a cad or animation system to display output06:49
manicchowmeined: blender might be the right thing06:50
chowmeinedmanic: this one looks good: http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html06:50
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orbisvicis!Sauerbraten06:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sauerbraten - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:50
chowmeinedmanic: blender is more targeted for 3d modeling, animation art06:50
sangeethaI am getting an error while compiling firefox:http://pastebin.ca/62576606:50
chowmeinedmanic: but its fully scriptable06:50
sangeethacould anyone help me to solve this error06:50
manicit's 2d06:51
saxinsangeetha: why are you compiling firefox?06:51
mongolaimanic, blender will work for 3d animations, but it's pretty hard to use...06:51
orbisvicisblender corresponds more to maya/3dsmax, not any sort of cad06:51
chowmeinedmanic: yea qcad is 2d06:51
manicdoes blender have a binary interface similar like CORBA?06:51
sangeethasaxin, I have added a patch to it for enabling indic language printing support06:51
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gcarrillodude, using the bittorrent gui is hard on feisty06:51
gcarrilloi cant get it to run06:51
|_ockek so im trying to run the halflife 2 demo from steam, and it runs and is accelerated, but it only shows in one corner06:52
|_ockeand cuts off part of the screen06:52
chowmeinedgcarrillo: have you tried deluge? http://deluge-torrent.org/06:52
|_ockeim r unning nvidia fx 550006:52
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gcarrillo"Could not load wxPython. In order to use this script,06:52
gcarrilloyou must have wxPython installed.  It is available in06:52
gcarrillothe package libwxgtk2.4-python."06:52
chowmeinedmanic: i dont know.. but its scripted using python06:52
kbrosnansangeetha: are you using a .mozconfig if so would you pastebin that too06:52
|_ockei also have a radeon 9800 pro that i could install if that might work better06:52
ianmcorvidaelol06:52
gcarrillowell i run fedora core on my other box06:52
gcarrilloand i want the bittorrent client it has06:52
ianmcorvidaeoops.06:52
sangeethakbrosnan, yes i'll paste it06:52
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gcarrillowhich i think is the standard one06:53
metbsdno good bittorrent client06:53
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gcarrilloyeah06:53
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gcarrilloi just want something that maintains state after shutting down06:53
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manicchowmeined:  I think what I should do is write a COM client for SBCL06:54
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gcarrillothe one on fedora is really good IMHO06:54
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chowmeinedmanic: COM?06:54
sangeethakbrosnan, http://pastebin.ca/62577206:55
manicchowmeined: DCOM actually, to talk to windows apps06:55
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Johnohow do I find the path to my usb thumb drive?06:55
jayde_drag01i had 2 internal harddrives Armada and Dib... they were read only and i needed them to be read write (please keep in mind i'm a newbie) so in my searching i found "ntfs-config" installed it and tried to enable the read write option... well then it unmounted the drives and told me i no longer had permissions to mount them... so i figurewd out how to log in as administrator.. and there they said they couldn't be mounted because the log 06:55
chowmeinedmanic: ok06:55
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manicchowmeined: I hate the fact that all the major CAD vendors suck up to microsoft06:56
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Johnohow do I find the path to my usb drive?06:56
guixhi06:56
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chowmeinedmanic: oh well, it might change down the road06:56
manicchowmeined:  even CATIA is windows now, used to be all unix06:56
manicPRO/E used to be unix06:57
manic(i think)06:57
Johno..06:57
guixwhatcha doing06:57
kbrosnansangeetha: i think if you are enabling pango you need to select a graphics toolkit http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Configuring_Build_Options06:57
Johnohow do I find the path to my usb drive06:57
Johno?06:57
mongolaiJohno, I *think* it is in /media06:58
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Johnook thanks06:59
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hypertyperanyone know how to set up 5.1 surround on ubuntu 7.04 desktop?07:00
manicMirai is really cool though, and I think they are doing a Linux port, and I can integrate with that07:00
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ferronicaNewer version of VLC Media player is available for ubuntu Fiesty fawn GNOME ????07:00
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varkaJohno: plug it in and type: "dmesg | grep removable07:00
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jayde_drag01i had 2 internal harddrives Armada and Dib... they were read only and i needed them to be read write (please keep in mind i'm a newbie) so in my searching i found "ntfs-config" installed it and tried to enable the read write option... well then it unmounted the drives and told me i no longer had permissions to mount them... so i figurewd out how to log in as administrator.. and there they said they couldn't be mounted because the log 07:01
krinnsjhey07:01
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Johnovarka: that didn't tell me the path07:02
EleafHello, is it possible to get thumbnail previews in the gnome image importer with RAW images?07:02
azslandeI had a game crash the other day and it got stuck in an infinate sound loop. I restarted my computer totally to fix it, and now I have no sound at all. Anyone have any suggestions?07:02
EleafIt seems to be unable to display a preview, which is weak ;).07:02
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varkaJohno: and it told you what?07:02
krinnsam trying to install US roborics serial modem on Ubuntu dapper07:02
Eleafthe gnome camera importer07:02
krinnswhen i dial through wvdial it connects and hang up then?07:03
Johnosd:0"0"0")" attached scs1 removable disk sda07:03
krinnsany idea07:03
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varkaJohno: ok, then type "cat /etc/mtab | grep sda07:03
eshaasehow do i determine whether or not mod_python is doing what it should be?07:03
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JohnoI tried the dpkg and it didn't work07:04
mongolaieshaase, create a python cgi and try to load it in a browser. If it loads you're good07:04
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hypertyperkrinns: try http://forum.freespire.org/showthread.php?t=660107:04
varkaJohno: what was its output or errormsg?07:04
grayhaneKi4ikl, do you use any log programs in Linux ?07:05
sangeethakbrosnan,should i add this in the mozconfig file --enable-default-toolkit=gtk207:05
Johnocannot access archive: no suck file or directory07:05
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varkaJohno: then you mistyped the path to the .deb file07:05
azslandeHello, I seem to have lost all sound after a game crashed, can anyone help?07:05
Johnook I will try again07:05
varkaJohno: just "cd" to your USB stick first07:06
JohnoI did07:06
eshaasemongolai: my python cgi scripts worked before i had mod_ptyhon installed though07:06
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krinnshypertyper here is logs http://pastebin.com/m111e992607:06
JohnoVarka: then what?07:06
ferronicahow do i check i am running newest DELUGE ??07:06
Eleafcan the gnome camera importer display thumbnails of RAW files?  It's horribly annoying otherwise, I can't see what I'm importing.07:06
mongolaieshaase, oh. well that sucks ;(07:06
varkaJohno: ok, then type sudo dpkg -i linux-  ...  then hit TAB-button and it will complete the command for you07:06
CowoK_GokiLhi07:06
ferronicahow do i check i am running newest DELUGE ??07:07
KI4IKLgrayhane, what kind of log? Like Ham log? Nah, I dont' have a general, i'm just a tech and I don't have much to log.07:07
ferronicawhat command should i use ?07:07
mongolaieshaase, seriously, I guess I have no idea07:07
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hypertyperkrinns: i'm a bit out of touch with modem tech, guy, sorry. you might find more info at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/2211907:07
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JohnoVarka: it worked07:08
defryskferronica, apt-cache policy07:08
pagan0neonce i plug in a usb drive (assuming it doesnt auto mount, and use works properly) where should i go about looking for it under /dev ? i checked for sd* but the only sd* drives i see are my 2 sata drives im running off of...07:08
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ferronicadefrysk: thats it07:08
hypertyperkrinns:  although from what i saw, it was connecting ok, then getting disconnected. try having it call your cell?07:08
varkaJohno: fine, so now you should be ready to compile you driver07:08
krinnsok07:08
JohnoI'll try07:08
grayhaneKI4IKL, well when do you plan to go for the general ?07:08
krinnswait07:08
krinnsyes it seems ok but its hangup in a seconf07:09
krinnssecond07:09
varkapagan0ne: plug it in and type: "dmesg | grep removable07:09
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KI4IKLyea, I do grayhane....being 12 and all, I don't have a LOT Of time to study :)07:09
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varkapagan0ne: what does it say?07:09
ferronicadefrysk: i wanna check deluge07:10
pagan0nevarka: it returns nothing07:10
grayhanewell if I can help I would be glad to , I am a VE and have most of the info for the test on my site07:10
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hypertyperkrinns: you might try watching the console output while dialing. it'll prolly hang up when it doesn't detect a carrier, but if it gets that far, your problem may lie elsewhere07:10
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varkapagan0ne: seems system doesnt recognize your stick at all07:10
krinnsam taking device as ttyS007:10
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defryskferronica, apt-cache policy theluge07:10
pagan0nevarka: it did when i was on a 32bit system? same stick port everything07:11
brandoman043can someone help me recover my ubuntu?  i got help setting up a wireless card yesterday and after a restart the loading bar stops at about 15% and i think xorg isnt loading07:11
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desertcHello - referring to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/59688 - what does it mean when someone says the bug is "fixed upstream", as is said in the last comment?07:11
krinnswell that works well on windows07:11
Cyber_Stalker!upgrade07:11
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes07:11
KI4IKLhey grayhane register, or identify so I can pm you07:11
ferronicadefrysk: tushar@tushar-desktop:~$ apt-cache policy Deluge07:11
ferronicaW: Unable to locate package Deluge07:11
ferronicatushar@tushar-desktop:~$07:11
varkapagan0ne: just remove it, type dmesg, plug it back in and again type dmesg and see what changes at the end07:11
defryskferronica, no caps in package07:11
brandoman043ive tried to use a backup xorg.conf file but i was unable to cp the file because the disk isnt writeable aparently07:11
brandoman043even tho i have sudo privledges07:12
Johnovarka I'm having trouble now07:12
pagan0nevarka: i have some errors in dmsg if you would like me to pastbin them or private message you?07:12
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ferronicadefrysk: same error again :(07:12
brandoman043ive also tried logging in as root and my root password is failing righ tnow07:12
brandoman043can anyone help or even see my text?07:12
varkapagan0ne: its worth a try, but i wont promise anything^^07:12
varkaJohno: what kind of?07:13
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defryskferronica, then deluge is not available in ubuntu try getdeb.net, maybe a package is available there07:13
kidbuntuplease help me. i'm having a hard time with my mouse sensitivity07:13
pagan0nevarka: well actually im a bit further, it now shows a sdc in my /dev, but fdisk -l /dev/sdc returns nada07:13
brandoman043can i get someone to help me please07:13
kidbuntuadjusting the mouse preferences doesn't make any changes at all07:13
varkapagan0ne: what does "cat /etc/mtab | grep sdc"  say07:14
pagan0nevarka: nada07:14
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JohnoI makde the install and then the instructions for running say usse modprobe martian_dev when I type that it says error inserting martian_dev operation not permitted07:14
kidbuntu!mouse07:14
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto07:14
grayhaneKI4IKL moved to hamradio, where are ya07:14
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brandoman043/identify07:15
brandoman043:(07:15
varkapagan0ne: ok, so you have to mount it manually with "sudo mkdir /media/stick" and "sudo mount /dev/sdc /media/stick"07:15
pagan0nevarka: is there any way to unload and reload the kernel module that handles the usb bus?07:15
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Johnovarka: any help?07:15
wastr2hello07:15
brandoman043i dont want to resort to spamming until i get attention.  just a moment please07:15
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pagan0nevarka: it used to "just work" but i tried now, and nada07:15
brandoman043hellp07:15
brandoman043hello07:15
hypertyperanyone know how to set up 5.1 surround on ubuntu 7.04 desktop?07:15
wastr2I was running aptitude, and had to ^C it07:15
wastr2now it only opens in readonly07:15
wastr2how do I fix this?07:16
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jayde_drag01i had 2 internal harddrives Armada and Dib... they were read only and i needed them to be read write (please keep in mind i'm a newbie) so in my searching i found "ntfs-config" installed it and tried to enable the read write option... well then it unmounted the drives and told me i no longer had permissions to mount them... so i figurewd out how to log in as administrator.. and there they said they couldn't be mounted because the log 07:16
task0hello all, what would be the vest version of ubuntu to install on an old pc... pentium 3 few ram07:16
brandoman043wastr2, can you read this07:16
varkaJohno: you have to type "sudo modprobe martian_dev"07:16
Johnook07:16
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KI4IKLWhat is the ident port for IRC?07:16
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wastr2brandoman043: yes07:16
jayde_drag01i am not a bot.. please someone help me..... i'm a girl does this help you?07:17
brandoman043thanks sry i couldnt tell if anyone could see it.  needed a guinea pig07:17
varkapagan0ne: sry, no clue07:17
pagan0nejayde_drag01 is deff a bot :p07:17
jayde_drag01lol07:17
jayde_drag01thank you pagan07:17
brandoman043haha07:17
varkapagan0ne: what does manual mount say?07:17
jayde_drag01at least someone is talking to me07:17
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task0any one?+07:18
pagan0nevarka: you mean "man mount"07:18
kidbuntuMy alt+tab button doesnt work anymore after updating my feisty fawn07:18
jayde_drag01omg gurlz exist on teh intarweb!!!107:18
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varkapagan0ne: no, i meant the output of the two command i gave you to mount the stick manually07:18
krinnshey07:18
krinnshypertyper07:18
rich1has anyone here used apt-file?07:18
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krinnsits the same error07:18
krinnsbut yes i can dial my cell07:19
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bruenigrich1, yes07:19
pagan0nevarka: "can't read superblock"07:19
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rich1bruenig: is there an aptitude analogue for it or is it ok to use with aptitude?07:19
task0hello all, what would be the best version of ubuntu to install on an old pc... pentium 3 few ram07:19
brandoman043can someone help me recover my ubuntu?  i got help setting up a wireless card yesterday and after a restart the loading bar stops at about 15% and i think xorg isnt loading07:19
chohmannbrandoman043: try booting to the live cd, and replace the corrupted xorg.conf with the one the live cd geernates.07:20
brandoman043thx07:20
bruenigrich1, apt-file just downloads a big text file that has all the packages and the files inside those packages and then searches that, it has nothing to do with getting files or anything of that sort07:20
mongolaitask0, all versions should be ok07:20
pagan0nevarka: i think i found my problem, i examined my minisd disk and realized the "guts" are still inside my camera... just the plastic shell came out07:20
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jayde_drag01and btw in case someone is not answering me because i'm asking for pm... a: i keep migrating from this screen to do stuff.. so i lose the dcomments... b: for some preson pm in irc .. you can' see what i'm saying... so if i'm in IM we CAN see each other and i can leave the screen to do what is being asked of me and not lose what you're saying and i'll know if your talking to me cuz it beeps07:20
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varkapagan0ne: oO07:20
rich1bruenig: cool.  thanks.07:20
varkapagan0ne: ok...07:20
task0mongolai: really? is for old pc's to shools07:20
varkapagan0ne: or not ^^07:20
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mongolaitask0, I'm running feisty on a celeron 333MHz with 384 megs RAM.07:21
jayde_drag01and i've been working on this since yesterday at 9pm and now i can't even access my harddrives.. i have no music.. can't get to my documents.. nothing07:21
mongolaitask0, It works fine. Slow but fine07:21
pagan0nevarka: yeah the pcb and chip were loose of the housing, looks like i need to ask whats the prefers method of "gluing" electronics... baring hot glue?07:21
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task0mongolai: lot's of ram there... here i'm talking about <256 mb07:21
sauvinWhere can I find a list of repositories for feisty?07:21
kidbuntu!titlebar07:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about titlebar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:21
task0mongolai: really less07:22
varkapagan0ne: #hardware ^^07:22
Cyber_Stalkerdoes this look serious?07:22
Cyber_Stalkercyber@cyber:~$ gksu "update-manager -c"07:22
Cyber_Stalker  warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)07:22
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pagan0nevarka: there it goes, thanks for the help :p i knew it wasnt linux... hardware problem... eh07:22
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varkasauvin: its german, but i think it helps: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/sources.list#head-48fea719979b721434538940530ea788e554195107:23
bruenigCyber_Stalker, it isn't pleasant that's for sure07:23
mongolaitask0, that *might* be a problem. You might want to look into xubuntu in that case07:23
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chohmannjayde_drag01: was there more to your message after "couldn't be mounted because to log..."07:23
Cyber_Stalkerbruenig: will it give me majour problems?07:23
sauvinBen, si c'est tout en allemagne, c'est a quoi bon pour moi!? :D Vielen Dank, varka :)07:24
bruenigCyber_Stalker, I have no idea what it means but it doesn't look nice07:24
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task0mongolai: does it bring open office?07:24
Cyber_Stalkerok well lets hit enter then :D07:24
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vihaobmta;o07:24
mongolaitask0, I think it does. But keep in mind open office is a memory hog itself.07:25
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vihaobmt???07:25
varkasauvin: well, you have to replace "de" with "fr" i think07:25
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task0mongolai: thanks... one last question, whats the difference between destktop version and alternate?07:25
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bruenigtask0, desktop version is a live cd with gui installer, alternate is a text based install07:25
kidbuntucan someone help me. there are a lot bad changes after I upgraded to feisty fawn07:25
tapioWhen I find open ports with nmap on my system, how can I identify what processes are using those ports?07:26
krinnshey07:26
krinnshypertyper see thsi http://pastebin.com/m4d3acf3007:26
task0bruenig: thank you very much!07:26
mongolaitask0, What bruenig said^^ :)07:26
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varkasauvin: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/sources.list07:26
azslandeHello, I cant get any sound to come through after I had a game get stuck in a sound loop. Can anyone help?07:27
yurimxpxmando any of you know how to read iTunes's album artwork files, .itc?07:27
task0mongolai: thanks07:27
task0=)07:27
mongolaitask0, no problemo!07:27
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task0mongolai: muchas gracias :) cheers from south america!07:29
azslandeAnyone one at all good with sound?07:29
xoRockneed help, i need to see list of how many space left in each partition07:29
bullgard4After a cold boot Ubuntu 7.04 will display my OO.o Database not on workspace 4 but on workspace 1 although I have stored the session with Base on workspace 4. Another Ubuntu 7.04 computer does not make this error but its Ubuntu is no upgrade from 6.10.07:29
chohmannxoRock: free?07:29
bruenig!anyone | azslande07:29
ubotuazslande: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:29
xoRockchohmann, o yes07:29
bruenigxoRock, df -ha07:29
azslande*smacks forehead*07:29
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sauvinVarka, that was an apparently feeble attempt at humour on my part. A great chunk of the text wouldn't be available to anybody who reads no German, that's true, but the links speak for themselves. Aber weiter anders.... was fuer Idiot kann kein Deutsch lesen?07:30
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xoRockbruenig, thx07:30
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MilitantPotatoLinux is always on HDA/SDA right?07:31
bruenigMilitantPotato, I think so07:31
pagan0nevarka: well thanks for all your help!07:32
varkasauvin: the link speaks for itself, but the sources.list has to be adjusted for yor running systems language, thats what i missed when posting07:32
sauvinMilitantPotato: linux can quite literally be almost anywhere.07:32
varkapagan0ne: no problem07:32
MilitantPotatoHow can I see what partition it's on?07:32
thullyMilitantPotato: sda is normally the first drive07:32
varun0I suppose you could even have the kernel on a floppy? or LiveCD?07:32
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thullyMilitantPotato: use the "mount" command, and look for whatever is mounted "on /"07:33
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thullyThat's your Linux root partition07:33
rainmanguys, I just installed 7.04 and running tests on apps. music sounds good when played, but when playing avi via totem 2.18.1 the sounds is barely loud, what movie player do you guys using? or how to improve totem?07:33
bruenigMilitantPotato, grep ' / ' /etc/mtab07:33
varun0rainman: have you tried another avi file?07:33
krinnshypertyper u there?07:33
MilitantPotato/dev/hda3 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 007:34
rainmanvarun0 yes07:34
varun0rainman: I assume you've tried turning the volume up? :-)07:34
bruenigMilitantPotato, so /dev/hda3 it is07:34
rainmanvarun yes07:34
vihaobmthelp07:34
MilitantPotatohmm, i could of sworn that's my swap partition, oh well :D07:34
varun0rainman: try vlc, mplayer or xine07:34
vihaobmthelp me07:34
thullyunless you have a separate home or other partition (which would be /home)07:34
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bullgard4MilitantPotato: use sudo gparted07:34
rainmanvarun0, well I use vlc on windows. do they have a linux version?07:35
sauvinWhen that happens to me (sound too low) on $other_distribution, I fire up a mixer and turn up PCM.07:35
varun0rainman: yessir they do07:35
brian__hello07:35
varun0vihaobmt: how? :-)07:35
dissection!crontab07:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about crontab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:35
rainmanvarun0, ok I'll check that, thanks07:35
sauvinvlc, in fact, works VERY VERY WELL under Linux.07:35
vihaobmtvarun007:35
vihaobmtRegis????07:35
varun0rainman: np. try sauvin's suggestion, too07:35
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MilitantPotatoI love VLC.07:36
vihaobmtReg nick?07:36
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varka!ask vihaobmt07:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask vihaobmt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:36
rainmanvarim0, what's that?07:36
bruenigvlc is no different than anything else, in fact vlc now runs mostly on ffmpeg which is an mplayer library, it has static libraries of codecs though so people think it is somehow unique07:36
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grayhaneisnt crontab used to set programs to start at perset times ?07:36
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brueniggrayhane, yes07:36
brian__any body know where to find tool for building c++ code for  saga dreamcast07:36
TheDukeNYThere are normalization plugins i hear for some linux audio programs, but I've never seen or tried any07:36
vihaobmtReg nick? varka07:36
varun0rainman:  "When that happens to me (sound too low) on $other_distribution, I fire up a mixer and turn up PCM."07:36
varun0vihaobmt: you need to do that in the server window, not in the channel07:37
varkavihaobmt: you mean, how to register you nick on freenode?07:37
bruenigTheDukeNY, mp3gain is a good script that will normalize all your music files without loss07:37
TheDukeNYyeah07:37
vihaobmtyes?07:37
varkavihaobmt: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration07:37
TheDukeNYbut I dont think that will help him get louder sound in avi07:37
uNR[Ron] talenthas ubuntu gotten 5.1 working on k8v-se deluxe mobo yet? ad1940 chip i think (prolly wrong). last i tried it didnt work at all for 5.107:37
bruenighe probably is having codec problems07:37
TheDukeNYit might do, if its running an mp3 stream07:37
vihaobmtmoney?07:37
bruenig!codecs07:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:37
vihaobmt:((07:37
TheDukeNYi doubt its codec problems, when I play avi files on ubuntu i hardly get sound either07:38
varun0uNR[Ron] talent: I'd do a google search for the chipset "<chipset name> 5.1 ubuntu" or something similar07:38
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TheDukeNYI would just try to find a good normalization plugin07:38
dissectiongrayhane: Yes, I was just reading something about it on a forum07:38
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bruenigI played them all the time when I used ubuntu and play them on my two other distros and are fine, I use mplayer exclusively now though, but it is likely codecs, what else could it be unless that avi is bad07:39
uNR[Ron] talentvarun0, tried all the methods when feisty came out (been at it since hoary), all the tuts...just cant seem  to get it working right07:39
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varun0TheDukeNY: what is a normalization plugin?07:39
TheDukeNYvarun: any plugin that can normalize the audio stream07:39
varun0und3rB3ar: hm. what exactly is the problem? I had to fight to get my PCI soundcard working07:39
MilitantPotato Are you confident that your kernel           07:39
MilitantPotato                 is a sane, sensible, standard Linux          07:39
MilitantPotato                 kernel? Say 'no' if you are using a          07:39
MilitantPotato                 Gentoo <1.4 or Debian <3.0, please.07:39
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MilitantPotatoDoes ubuntu fall under that? :P07:40
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MilitantPotatoIts Mondo asking07:40
varun0TheDukeNY: interesting. I didn't know those existed. pretty cool07:40
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sauvinI'mve been using ubuntu now for all of maybe twenty minutes and have already decided it's staying on this computer no matter what.07:40
TheDukeNYTo normalize a file means to raise its volume so that the highest level sample in the file reaches a user defined level.07:40
brian__hello want write game code in c/c++ for sega dreamcast on ubuntu , where can i find tools to do that07:40
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MilitantPotatoNext week the wife gets an install of it07:41
RickyFalkdoes anyone know how to easily connect to a wireless network using ubunto, becuz i can get the internet to work using an ethernet connection, but i cant get any connection to work for wireless, and i dont really know how to use the code n stuff to change it...i just wish there was a userfriendly interface that showed u the available networks to connect to like windows does...are there any suggestions?07:41
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krinnshelo07:41
krinnsu there07:41
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bruenigRickyFalk, it comes with networkmanager07:41
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RickyFalkok07:41
bruenigRickyFalk, have you used that?07:41
varkaRickyFalk: network-manager07:41
bruenigno dash07:41
RickyFalki think so? i am not at it right now becuz im on vacation, but im pretty sure i have messed with the network manager, but i have no luck07:42
varun0RickyFalk: what chipset do you have?07:42
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brian__HELP07:42
RickyFalkand someeone made me copy some code to them and tehy told me that it has recognized my wireless card and that its installed07:42
RickyFalkchipset?07:42
bruenigRickyFalk, I have never used it either, it is best to make sure you can connect through cli first and then from there start experimenting with gui clients, I have settled in with wifi-radar which is a very nice gui client07:42
varun0brian__: emacs? :-) what exactly do you need?07:42
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varun0RickyFalk: the chipset on your wireless nic?07:42
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RickyFalkok so how do i get this wifi radar07:42
bruenigRickyFalk, are you on your ubuntu box now?07:43
RickyFalkim not so sure, but its a linksys wireless card installed into the cpu07:43
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RickyFalkno im not07:43
varun0brian__: what sort of tools do you need?07:43
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bruenigRickyFalk, I would recommend getting on that and popping back in here when you can07:43
varkaRickyFalk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WLANHowTo07:43
RickyFalki wish i could, but i just felt like entering this chat and seeing what some suggestions are for when i get back home i can mess wit it07:43
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brian__compiler for sh4 cpu ,07:43
castright. newb question. default ubuntu install. is there a /usr/src/linux symlink?07:43
bruenigRickyFalk, I would just deal with iwconfig iwlist and dhclient from cli but you may not be comfortable with that07:44
sauvinGrr. the repositories synatics already knows about right out of the box have pretty comprehensive content.07:44
kidbuntuis there a way that I can reinstall ubuntu without erasing all my files. I mean not reformatting everything07:44
varun0cast: AFAIK, sources aren't installed with a default install, but I could be wrong07:44
TheDukeNYbruenig: mp3gain is win binary07:44
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castvarun0: as i thought. its the same in debian.07:44
sauvinKidbuntu, that might not be the way to go. Do you have a USB drive large enough to hold your irreplaceable stuff?07:44
bruenig!info mp3gain07:44
ubotump3gain: Lossless mp3 normalizer with statistical analysis. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.6-3 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 160 kB07:44
bruenigTheDukeNY, ^ no07:44
RickyFalkthank you guys for the suggestions07:45
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TheDukeNYok, nm07:45
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TheDukeNYthier website has no linux binaries though07:45
bruenigmay not07:45
TheDukeNYhttp://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/download.php07:45
bruenigthey are out there somewhere07:45
varun0cast: I think the package name is linux-source. but I'd double check that07:45
kidbuntusauvin: well sort of. but the problem is, after performing so many updates on fesity fawn until nothing is left to update. I'm having a hard time using my computer07:45
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varun0brian__: no clue, man07:45
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TheDukeNYbruenig: the question though is if it will work with an mp3 stram from an avi video though :\07:46
sauvinBecause it's slow?07:46
bruenigTheDukeNY, https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4997907:46
bruenigTheDukeNY, no07:46
bullgard4How can I default Gnome_Search_Tool > Search folder from ~ to / ?07:46
TheDukeNYbruenig: doH!07:46
kidbuntusauvin: like the titles on my title bar is on the middle, and the maximize, close, minimize button, automatically adjust when you resize the window.07:46
bruenigit is zipped which is odd but still linux07:46
kidbuntusauvin: I have a zero accell of my mouse.07:47
kidbuntusauvin: alt+tab button doesnt work anymore07:47
TheDukeNYbruenig: i suppose thats a new project someone should get started on then07:47
brian__some one told GNU tool kit , but all I can find is compilers for regular cpu like intel and amd07:47
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bruenigTheDukeNY, I don't see it having any purpose07:47
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brian__i know it out there I will keep looking07:47
brian__thanks07:47
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TheDukeNYbruenig: i use fddshow on my win partition, i use the normalization feature when I watch avis many timesd07:48
sauvinKidbuntu, if that happened to me, I'd save work files and other personal data that can't be replaced, and just install new, with the admonition to myself NOT to get so damn nuts with downloading stuff.07:48
b123has anyone used a dell Inspiron Notebook 1420 N that comes with ubuntu? If so please talk to me07:48
bruenigTheDukeNY, just turn the volume down07:48
TheDukeNYbruenig: i use it to turn the volume up07:48
bruenigmp3's are played in mass and repeatedly07:49
bruenigavis aren't07:49
TheDukeNYbruenig: normalize audio by %30007:49
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TheDukeNYbruenig: some divx/xvid movies have quiet sound, sometimes it needs it07:49
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kidbuntusauvin: well the problem also, my ubuntu doesnt detect anything anymore of whatever i mount. like my USB is not detected07:49
bruenigturn the volume up07:49
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TheDukeNYbruenig: my laptop volume doesnt get any louder07:50
bruenigit has extremely limited purpose07:50
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bruenigmaybe 5 people can use it07:50
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krinnshye07:53
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MilitantPotatoAw X(07:53
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krinnswhen i try to connect to my iSP my modem gets hungup07:53
krinnsimmediately07:54
krinnsany idea?07:54
MilitantPotatoOk, it can't backup linux because it's mounted07:54
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MilitantPotatobut I can't unmount it..07:54
BleedI must confess.07:54
BleedI'm in love with a woman, and her name is Ubuntu.07:54
bruenig!ot | Bleed07:54
ubotuBleed: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!07:54
MilitantPotatoThat must be depressing07:54
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toogodooi need help partioioning, i know partition magic but dont know how to even spell the 2 ubuntu partition proggies. can anybody help...btw i have spent 8 hrs on google and the answer aint there either, HELP07:54
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tiejazgparted?07:55
MilitantPotatodont use partition magic07:55
Bleedgparted07:55
Bleedor even fdisk is better than partition magic :P07:55
MilitantPotatotrue.07:55
SkifI have an HP c500 laptop, and while the headphone jack works, it isn't automatically shutting off the internal speakers, and I can't figure out how to make it.07:55
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BleedIf you haven't ever partitioned, I suggest cfdisk07:55
MilitantPotatoI can't get linux to boot after creating unformated partitions with PM07:55
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SidletMan nautilus is a hog, anybody have any suggestions for a replacement?07:56
Bleed@.@07:56
Sidletor alternative rather.07:56
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Gurpartaphttp://pcmanfm.sf.net07:56
MajorPayneSidlet: Gnome-Terminal?07:56
GurpartapSidlet, ^^07:56
Bleed:P07:56
Gurpartaplol07:56
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mongolaiSidlet, Thunar is one alternative, but lacks some nifty features07:56
castSidlet: sure, thunar07:56
Skiftrolling through alsamixer doesn't seem to show any switch I could set.  Where else should I look for suggestions?07:57
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castthunar isn't the worlds fastest file manager, admittedly, but it is a good compromise :>07:57
tiejazI need help either installing mindless automaton or apprentice on ubuntu07:57
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Bleedhrm, is nautilus really that bad for you Sidlet?07:57
mongolaiI like Thunar. I use it with e17, but it seem to lack samba integration:(07:58
Sidletno, i'm just impatient, i run old hardware :P07:58
MilitantPotatoHow do I backup linux?07:58
Bleedah :p07:58
MilitantPotatoMondo fails because / is mounted07:58
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GurpartapSidlet, pcmanfm is just fine at most features07:58
Gurpartapand it's fast after all07:58
Gurpartapme too on old hardware07:58
GurpartapPIII 256mb ram :D07:58
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: tar the files you want to back up and store it somewhere else?07:58
mongolaime three on old hardware07:59
texpwhat is the best linux FTP client in your opinions?07:59
brueniggftp07:59
bruenig!best07:59
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.07:59
MilitantPotatoWhat do I need to backup to restore my settings?07:59
bruenig!backup | MilitantPotato07:59
ubotuMilitantPotato: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning07:59
Gurpartaptexp, better than any other: gftp07:59
MilitantPotatolike hardware config and program settings07:59
BleedMilitantPotato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3508707:59
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tiejazdoes anyone know where I can download a windows .vmx file?07:59
BleedThat link I posted is very straight forward.07:59
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casttiejaz: not legally08:00
MilitantPotatoI got them all open, thanks guys/gals08:00
tiejazthat's fine, cast08:00
BleedIf you're looking to rip off Windows08:00
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BleedYou're better off finding a copy of a cd and creating your own vmx08:00
varkawhere are the entries defined that are shown up under "Places"?08:00
tiejazi don't want to have to reboot in xp just to play some mtg08:00
bruenigvarka, deep in the gnome garbage code I am sure, you cannot modify that I assure you, I must have spent 20 hours total beating my brains in08:01
bruenigxfce saved me from gnome hell though thankfully08:01
BleedI was wondering the same thing08:01
BleedMy external harddrive mounts to Places, but my second internal doesn't08:01
SkifAny suggestions on how to get my internal speakers to shut off when I put in my headphones?08:01
BleedWas wondering that as well.08:01
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BleedIs that possible Skif? o.O08:02
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tiejazso does anyone know where i can download a windows vmx?08:02
stanthecaddyBleed: I think if you drag it into the sidebar of shortcuts in the file explorer it will be listed in there08:02
SkifBleed: I kinda hope so... it works fine on my work laptop, but not on my personal one.08:02
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niuqi had a problem with a file that was on my usb, and i cant open it now, there is any tool for recovering files?08:02
Bleedstanthecaddy: yea it is, but it doesn't get grouped with the other drives.  Guess that's just me being anal :P08:02
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MajorPayne!offtopic | tiejaz08:03
ubotutiejaz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:03
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koprnicusCan anyone tell me what eth0:avai is ?08:03
BleedCan you not just shut the power off? :P08:03
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bruenigkoprnicus, where do you see that08:03
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conorkirkpatrickkopornicus: eth0 is your ethernet controller08:03
bruenigavai looks a lot like avahi which would make sense08:04
tiejazhey i need help installing this: http://mindless.sourceforge.net/08:04
koprnicusbruenig, In the network setup. I see lo, eth0 and eth0:avai08:04
SkifBleed: Kinda defeats the purpose of having headphones, doesn't it?08:04
stanthecaddyBleed: ah I see, well im not sure how to do that then - sorry08:04
bruenigkoprnicus, does it show up under ifconfig08:04
niuqthere is any tool for recovering files?08:04
niuqi have a corrupted file on my usb08:04
bruenigtiejaz, download extract, compile08:04
tiejazalso, when I alt-tab with two running programs it skips the dormant one08:04
tiejazalways08:04
tiejazhow do i compile it08:04
Bleedtiejaz08:05
Bleedjust use make08:05
bruenig!compile | tiejaz08:05
ubotutiejaz: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)08:05
tiejazi did08:05
tiejazit didn't wokr08:05
tiejaz*work08:05
Bleedwhat error did you get?08:05
tiejazhold on08:05
bruenigtiejaz, you  need to pay attention to the ./configure output, it will tell you what you are missing08:05
bruenigunless ./configure goes through smooth, it won't make08:05
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Bleedthere's no config for it08:05
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gcarrillowhat up what up08:07
MilitantPotatobleed08:07
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MilitantPotatonice post, one question08:07
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tiejaztiejaz@tiejaz-desktop:~/Desktop/mindless$ make08:08
MilitantPotatoif I want my tgz to go do  a different partion, would the command look like this:08:08
tiejazgcc -Wall -g `pkg-config gtk+-2.0 --cflags` -c mindless.c08:08
tiejazPackage gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.08:08
tiejazPerhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'08:08
tiejazto the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable08:08
niuqthere is any tool for recovering corrupted files?08:08
tiejazNo package 'gtk+-2.0' found08:08
tiejazmindless.c:12:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory08:08
tiejazmindless.c:13:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory08:08
tiejazmindless.c:14:20: error: string.h: No such file or directory08:08
MajorPayne!paste tiejaz08:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paste tiejaz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:08
tiejazmindless.c:15:20: error: unistd.h: No such file or directory08:08
tiejazmindless.c:16:21: error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory08:08
tiejazmindless.c:17:28: error: gdk/gdkkeysyms.h: No such file or directory08:08
MajorPayne!paste | tiejaz08:08
ubotutiejaz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:08
tiejazIn file included from mindless.c:18:08:08
tiejazgame.h:23: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before GtkWidget08:08
tiejazgame.h:62: error: expected =, ,, ;, asm or __attribute__ before target_table08:08
Bleed>.<08:08
tiejazgame.h:84: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before GtkWidget08:08
tiejazgame.h:94: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before GtkWidget08:08
tiejazIn file included from game.h:115,08:08
tiejaz                 from mindless.c:18:08:08
tiejazkplayer.h:13: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before GtkWidget08:08
MilitantPotatotar cvpzf /dev/hda5/backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /08:08
tiejazkplayer.h:27: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before GtkWidget08:08
tiejazIn file included from mindless.c:19:08:08
tiejazplayarea.h:13: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before GdkPixbuf08:08
tiejazIn file included from mindless.c:20:08:08
BleedObviously, you need to install gtk+-2.008:08
tiejazzone.h:8: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before GtkWidget08:08
niuq...08:08
tiejazzone.h:34: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before GtkWidget08:08
BleedAs it says clearly08:08
tiejazzone.h:35: error: expected =, ,, ;, asm or __attribute__ before * token08:08
tiejazzone.h:36: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before GtkWidget08:08
tiejazzone.h:37: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before GtkWidget08:08
tiejazIn file included from mindless.c:23:08:09
BleedStop...pasting...08:09
tiejazdialogs.h:3: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before gpointer08:09
Bleedorz08:09
tiejazdialogs.h:21: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before gpointer08:09
tiejazdialogs.h:30: error: expected ) before * token08:09
mongolailol08:09
tiejazdialogs.h:32: error: expected ) before * token08:09
tiejazdialogs.h:35: error: expected =, ,, ;, asm or __attribute__ before * token08:09
niuqwtf?08:09
tiejazIn file included from mindless.c:27:08:09
NutubuntuThat's just rude.08:09
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NutubuntuGnight all ...08:09
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Nutubuntut/y nixternal08:09
nixternaljeesh08:09
Nutubuntug'night all08:09
bruenighe didn't even paste the right stuff, that is make error, not the ./configure error08:09
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MilitantPotatobleed08:10
Bleedthere is no config08:10
MilitantPotatowhats the website to post code?08:10
bruenig!paste08:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:10
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Bleedhe just needed to install gtk+-2.008:10
MilitantPotatoty08:10
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AyabaraLately, Gmail has been _very_ slow in my Firefox. It hangs for many seconds before loading a page. Anyone else encountered this problem?08:11
niuqany tool for recovering damage files, like doc. documents?08:11
bruenigniuq, no08:11
MilitantPotatoBleed: would this put it on hda5 ?    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30408/08:11
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bruenigMilitantPotato, no08:12
bruenigMilitantPotato, don't mess with /dev/ stuff, you want to put it in mountpoints08:12
bruenigMilitantPotato, where is the /dev/hda5 mount point?08:12
MilitantPotatoso hda5/backup.tgz ?08:12
BleedYou want to put it in mount points08:12
Bleedlike08:12
MilitantPotatoAs in name?08:12
Bleed/home/MilitantPotato/Backup/08:12
bruenigMilitantPotato, do grep hda5 /etc/fstab08:12
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: In Ubuntu a partition is mounted somewhere on the root filesystem.08:13
Bleedlike in your /mnt or /media folder08:13
MilitantPotatomedia/hda508:13
Bleedthen use /media/hda5/backup.tgz08:14
MilitantPotatoso instead of dev/hda5 it should be media/hda508:14
MilitantPotatoWhat does dev/ do?08:14
MilitantPotatowait I can google that.08:14
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conorkirkpatrickMilitantPotato: It is a folder with ALL your comp's devices08:14
Bleed/dev/ directly points to your hardware08:14
kidbuntu7.04 doesnt detect any media devices that i have08:14
bruenigif hda5 is big enough to hold all the files in your filesystem, I would just use rsync08:14
Bleedit lists all your computers devices08:14
MajorPayne/dev is the location of device files.08:14
bruenigit will take longer initially but you can keep an up to date backup very simply08:14
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: The leading / is sometimes important when you are talking about paths.08:15
MilitantPotatoIve noticed that payne :)08:15
Bleed;)08:15
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: If you don't have the leading / you are talking about relitave paths.08:15
MilitantPotatoKinda odd, and hard to remember08:15
Bleedeverything starts at /08:15
MilitantPotatoso / = root08:15
MilitantPotatoregardless08:15
MilitantPotatowithouth the leading /, it thinks you're talking about the current folder?08:15
Bleeddev/ insinuates something is infront of it08:16
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: Yes.08:16
MilitantPotatoinfront of it how?08:16
Bleedlike it's a folder inside a folder08:16
bruenigdirectory*08:16
Bleedbah08:16
MilitantPotatoah, how would a dev command work?08:16
Bleedwindows terminology08:16
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MajorPayneMilitantPotato: Dev command?08:16
Bleedyou don't really use /dev/ unless you're messing with your hardware08:16
bruenigMilitantPotato, there is no dev command, they are just files, everything in linux is a file, including your hardware08:16
MilitantPotato/dev/w/e08:16
bruenigprocesses are files08:17
MilitantPotatoah ok08:17
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: In *nix, everything is a file.  Including all your devices.08:17
bruenigeverything is a file08:17
Bleedinside /dev/ is where your hardware lies :D08:17
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MilitantPotatoThat explains why drives are folders :D08:17
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Bleed*directories08:17
Bleed=P08:17
tiejaz_hey how do I install gtk+-2.0 on ubuntu 7.0408:17
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Bleedapt-get08:17
bruenig!info gtk08:17
ubotuPackage gtk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:17
MilitantPotatoso /dev is only for low level disk access like formatting/partitioning08:17
bruenig!find gtk08:17
Bleedcorrect08:17
ubotuFound: compiz-gtk, evince-gtk, gcalctool-gtk, gftp-gtk, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon (and 365 others)08:17
MilitantPotatook cool08:18
MilitantPotatothat makes a lot of sence now.08:18
kidbuntu7.04 can't detect my USB pls help me08:18
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bruenigkidbuntu, what is the /dev/name of the usb08:18
kidbuntuKIDBUNTU08:18
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: For instance, your first hd may be /dev/sda, your first partition may be /dev/sda1, but in order to access it you have to mount it on the filesystem somewhere.08:18
bruenigkidbuntu, no it isn't08:18
kidbuntubruenig: that's the name of my usb KIDBUNTU08:19
bruenigkidbuntu, when you plug it in wait a second and do dmesg and see what the /dev/name is08:19
bruenigit will be three letters followed by a number08:19
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bruenigsdc108:19
bruenigsometimes it can be two letters I think08:19
kidbuntubruenig: what do you mean dmesg that i will see?08:19
Takmadeusgreetings08:19
tiejaz_with apt-get, what package do I type to get it?08:19
bruenigkidbuntu, plug it in, run dmesg08:19
bruenigtiejaz_, learn how to search08:20
MilitantPotatoah ok08:20
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Takmadeushttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3043678&postcount=1108:20
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kidbuntubruenig: how should i post it. pls give me link to pastebin08:20
Takmadeusanyone is up to it_08:20
bruenigkidbuntu, you can't see what it is calling it, look closely08:20
bruenig!paste08:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:20
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tiejaz_bruenig: how do I search?08:21
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bruenigtiejaz_, well I would hope you are familiar with synaptic, or apt-cache search08:21
MajorPaynetiejaz_: "apt-cache search searchTerm"08:21
tiejaz_thx08:21
kidbuntubruenig: do  you mean the name of the device itself?08:21
Takmadeusanyone up for it?08:21
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bruenigkidbuntu, just paste it, I am getting bored08:21
Takmadeushttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3043678&postcount=1108:21
kidbuntuJetFlash TS1GJFV1008:21
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kidbuntubruenig: do  you mean the name of the device itself  sda108:22
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bruenigkidbuntu, yes the /dev/name08:22
krinnshey08:22
krinnswhat this mean08:22
brueniglike I says08:22
krinns gconfd (muhammad.saqlain-9658): Could not open saved state file '/home/muhammad.saqlain/.gconfd/saved_state.tmp' for writing: Read-only file system08:22
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krinnsall files are opening as readonly08:22
Bleedkrinns: use sudo08:22
Bleedsudo gedit w/e08:22
progress0ris there anyway to improve the fonts for ubuntu feisty or even use the windows ttf fonts?08:22
tiejaz_apt-cache search gtk+-2.0 has no results08:23
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Bleedkrinns: you're trying to edit files only an admin can open08:23
Bleedprefixing your command with sudo lets you type in your admin password08:23
Bleedso you can save them08:23
bruenigtiejaz_, apt-cache search gtk08:23
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ioioioioiiiiohmmm my dad got on my computer and now streams (pls) dont work :( what could he have done08:23
TakmadeusHello08:23
tiejaz_bruenig: that has hundreds08:23
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Takmadeusmind if you all check something?08:23
Takmadeushttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3043678&postcount=1108:24
kidbuntubruenig: can you help me with something realy tough?08:24
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bruenigtiejaz_, search through it, or you can use grep, apt-cache search gtk | grep 208:24
MilitantPotatohmmm08:24
bruenigjust play with it08:24
bruenignarrow the search terms08:24
MilitantPotatoError "Invalid parameters" while copying "/home/mili...for UBUNTU"08:24
toogodoowhere can i got get real answers as to how to dual boot xp and ubuntu...i have tried 5 times and blew up disk all 5 tries and five formats in 3 days sux!!!, all i want to do is install the damn thing in its own space with the 3 required partitions.08:24
bruenigkidbuntu, I thought you had a usb problem08:24
tiejaz_toogodoo: it is hella easy08:24
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toogodoobill.....08:24
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toogodoobull too08:25
kidbuntubruenig: not only that. my mouse sensitivity, i cant get it fixed. after performing an update of 7.0408:25
MilitantPotatoToogodoo08:25
MilitantPotatoone second08:25
tiejaz_install xp, then run the live cd08:25
ioioioioiiiiosayting could not connect there might not be a correct plugin or invalid url08:25
krinnsbut08:25
bruenigkidbuntu, ask the channel08:25
tiejaz_it should install grub08:25
krinnssimple user can do write in his own home folder08:25
toogodoonetwork wont work, vid card wont work no some entry missing and it halts...you tellin me thats fun???08:25
krinnsi cant write in my own home folder08:25
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Takmadeushttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3043678&postcount=1108:25
MilitantPotatotoogodoo: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-610449081131189823608:26
krinnsi cant write as root indeed08:26
MilitantPotatoVideo how-to08:26
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MajorPaynekrinns: Do ls -l ~, what user owns the files and what user are you?08:26
bruenig!enter | krinns08:26
ubotukrinns: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!08:26
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jd_hello can some one help me with a window problem08:26
varkahow to change a starting parameter of the gnome-search-tool shown under "Places" menu?08:27
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krinnssee logs http://pastebin.com/m3c59964708:27
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tiejaz_apt-cache search gtk | grep 2 has hundreds of results08:27
tiejaz_can someone just tell me what package name gtk+-2.0 has?08:27
bruenigtiejaz_, well look through them, gees08:27
krinnsi think some thing wrong with my raid controller08:27
ioioioioiiiioi wonder why my dad would remove codecs :(08:28
jd_when i click on a aplication it does not come up in front of my active window how can i change this08:28
krinnsits the whole file system08:28
bruenigtiejaz_, do some more grepping to narrow the search results, do you think this channel will find every package out there08:28
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bruenigthat you ever need08:28
MajorPaynekrinns: That has to do with your writing to your home directory?08:28
bruenigthe irc package management technique08:28
ioioioioiiiiohe also rebooted by pulling power cord could that have messed something up?08:28
MilitantPotatowhat path is the desktop?08:28
tiejaz_I don't know how grep works08:28
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Bleed/home/user/desktop08:28
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bruenig!find libgtk08:28
ubotuFound: libgtk1.2, libgtk1.2-common, libgtk1.2-dbg, libgtk1.2-dev, libgtk1.2-doc (and 93 others)08:28
Bleederr08:28
MilitantPotatogrep is a word pad type program08:28
Bleed/home/user/Desktop08:28
bruenig!find libgtk2.008:28
ubotuFound: libgtk2.0-0, libgtk2.0-0-dbg, libgtk2.0-bin, libgtk2.0-cil, libgtk2.0-common (and 2 others)08:28
r00tintheb0xwhatsuppers08:28
bruenigoh my god I found it08:28
MilitantPotatoty08:28
bruenigI don't even have ubuntu installed08:29
bruenigI am a god08:29
v4m21Hi, I have a shell script which I am running at the startup from Sessions.  Is it possible to force it to run in its own gnome-terminal ?08:29
Bleedv4m21 prefix it with gnome-terminal -x08:29
v4m21thanks.08:29
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Bleedbut use the direct path to the command you're using08:29
Bleedif you're using unrar or something, make sure you use the full path, like /usr/bin/unrar08:29
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krinnsMajorpayne yes when i try to open my file or write it opens as readonly08:30
jd_can some one help me with that problem08:30
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v4m21Thank you bleed.08:30
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tiejaz_E: Invalid operation libgtk2.0-008:30
MajorPaynekrinns: Type "ls -l ~".  What user owns the files, what user are you?08:30
bruenigtiejaz_, apt-get install it08:30
tiejaz_ok08:30
Bleedlol08:30
Bleedlol, lol, and lol.08:30
jd_sooooo08:30
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Bleedyes08:31
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tiejaz_says it's already installed08:31
Bleedtiejaz_: you need to read up on apt-get08:31
BleedIt's a godsend.08:31
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MajorPayneHe needs the dev packages.08:31
BleedYes, you need dev packages08:31
Bleed1 sec08:31
jd_when i click on anything it pops up behind a window that i already have on the creen can some one help me get this to pop up in front of the page or window im on08:31
tiejaz_ok thanks08:31
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AzMoo[w] " < MilitantPotato> grep is a word pad type program" <--- No, no it's not.08:32
bruenigsauvin, by basic I mean base, it is the base of everything, it is something you cannot do without knowing08:32
krinnswell am ounser of my folder it seems like that08:32
Bleedsudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev08:32
bruenigit is the first thing you should learn in any distro08:32
Bleeduse that tiejaz_08:32
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tiejaz_thanks bleed08:32
krinnsmajorPayne did u check the logs08:32
MilitantPotatoAh, as far as I've seen from using it08:32
Bleedtiejaz_: I use aptitude search *program* for searching08:32
BleedI like it the most08:32
MilitantPotatoit seems like it's editing ini type files08:32
MilitantPotatohow do you copy files with spaces?08:33
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tiejaz_so now I should be able to make the prog?08:33
AzMoo[w] MilitantPotato: no, grep is nothing like that. It's a pattern searcher.08:33
BleedYou should try it, yes08:33
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MajorPaynekrinns: Ahh.  I see.  I don't know.08:33
MilitantPotatoah, sorry, I know very, very little about linux.08:33
tiejaz_same here08:33
tiejaz_i'm new08:33
MilitantPotato1st day.08:33
togrMilitantPotato, what is your question?08:33
AzMoo[w] MilitantPotato: that's ok, I was just letting you know :)08:33
krinnswhat?08:33
gcarrilloitll be worth it thou08:34
MilitantPotatoHow do i copy file names with spaces?08:34
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tiejaz_don't put spaces in file names08:34
togryou want to make a copy of a file with a space in the file name?08:34
tiejaz__08:34
bruenigMilitantPotato, you can either put quotes around the file or escape the white space08:34
AzMoo[w] MilitantPotato: put quotes around it or a \ in front of the space08:34
sauvini don't think I have hardware acceleration enabled yet on this computer and ubuntu running KDE is ///faster/// than Fedora Core with acceleration enabled. Man, this is SCHWEET.08:34
bruenigMilitantPotato, like if it is called "File Name" you can do that in quotes or File\ Name08:34
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: Either escape the spaces with the '\' character like: this\ is\ a\ file or you can put the file name in "".08:34
gcarrillohehe08:34
gcarrilloeveryone knows that answer huh08:34
tiejaz_I didn't.08:35
gcarrillo:D08:35
mongolaior use tab filename completion.08:35
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togrMy shell does the escaping for me08:35
gcarrilloactually i probably didnt either08:35
bruenigtogr, what shell do you use?08:35
sauvinChanged clients. The gnome xchat is just too limiting.08:35
togrtcsh08:35
MilitantPotatowhat does08:35
gcarrillotry chatzilla08:35
MilitantPotatowhat does linux read \'s as normally?08:35
AzMoo[w] sauvin: what did you change to?08:35
defryskMilitantPotato, cp folder\ or\ name\ with\ spaces to /path/to otherplace/08:35
krinnshey08:35
bruenigsauvin, why didn't you use xchat?08:36
krinnswhen i try to change owner ship it says chown: changing ownership of `muhammad.yaseen/': Read-only file system08:36
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: It's an excape character.08:36
defryskMilitantPotato, cp folder\ or\ name\ with\ spaces to /path/to/otherplace/08:36
togrdefrysk, that's wrong08:36
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defrysksorry08:36
MilitantPotatoah cool08:36
krinnsshould i reboot my machine08:36
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: It treats what ever comes after that as special.08:36
MilitantPotatoi got it copied :D08:36
sauvinRegular xchat now.08:36
AzMoo[w] oh right08:36
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MilitantPotatoI wish I could move files w/o the dev consol.08:36
sauvinThe REAL version.08:36
sixfourwill bitchx run on ubuntu?08:36
togrMilitantPotato, what defrysk said is wrong08:36
sauvinWhy wouldn't it?08:36
defryskMilitantPotato, ant use the tab button for autocopletion of folder or filename08:36
bruenig!info bitchx08:36
ubotubitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1506 kB, installed size 6508 kB08:36
mongolaisixfour, yep08:36
sixfourty08:37
togrMilitantPotato, use "nautilus"08:37
MajorPayneirssi > bitchx08:37
bruenigsixfour, anything will run in any linux distribution08:37
defrysktogr, is that so ?08:37
tiejaz_hey thanks bleed08:37
tiejaz_it runs now08:37
togryes.  You had three arguments in the cp command line08:37
tiejaz_great help08:37
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togrcp "source" to dest08:37
enzo_sanne_sann08:37
togrthe "to" is spurious08:37
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MilitantPotatonautilus is...?08:37
defrysktogr, yes my mistake08:37
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: Press Places then Home.08:37
togrMilitantPotato, a graphical directory browser08:37
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mlgtess08:38
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: It's kinda like Windows Explorer.08:38
defryskMilitantPotato, 'cp folder\ or\ name\ with\ spaces /path/to/otherplace/' is the correct syntax08:38
MilitantPotatoyea that just gives me errors.08:38
defryskwithout the '08:38
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: What errors?08:39
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MilitantPotatoMount errors half the time08:39
MilitantPotatoor really vague Unable to write to disk08:39
defryskahwell time for a coffee08:39
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MilitantPotatobut I made it fat32 so i could write to it08:39
togrMilitantPotato, does it bring up a window?08:39
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MilitantPotatoyea, small error window08:39
krinnswhats up any idea08:39
togrand only the errors?08:40
mlgtest08:40
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togrmlg, we see you08:40
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MilitantPotatoyea togr08:40
MajorPayne!test08:40
ubotufailed08:40
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hexstarwhatcha testing?08:41
togrMilitantPotato, type "df -h" (without the quotes) in a shell08:41
hexstar@test08:41
hexstar!test08:41
kidbuntucan someone help me with my mouse sensitivity problem08:41
MilitantPotatosell?08:41
MilitantPotatoshell?08:41
hexstar!sell08:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:41
togrMilitantPotato, do you have a "Terminal" window somewhere?08:41
MilitantPotatoyea08:41
togrok, the program you're talking to in that window is called a shell08:41
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: The 'shell' runs in the "Terminal Emulator".08:42
hexstaryou can also do ctrl+alt+fx to get real terminals08:42
MilitantPotatoah ok08:42
togryou type commands to it, and it runs the commands for you and echoes the results back08:42
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togrMilitantPotato, *don't* try what hexstar just told you.  Not yet08:42
MilitantPotatohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30412/08:43
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krinnsmajorPayne08:43
krinnsany idea08:43
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: If you do happen to try what hexstar told you make sure you know to use Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back.08:43
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MajorPaynekrinns: No.  Sorry.08:43
krinnsmy machine was abnormal rebooted08:43
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MilitantPotatook08:43
MilitantPotatoI'll stay away from the expert stuff for the next few weeks :)08:44
togrMajorPayne, shouldn't that be 'alt+F7'?08:44
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sauvinhrm. I'm not seeing where to make channel and server tabs list along the bottom IN tabs, rather than in a tree view, in xhcat.08:44
MajorPaynetogr: The Ctrl does not effect things.08:44
togrok08:44
defryskMilitantPotato, you are truly new with this ;)08:44
MajorPaynetogr: I say the Ctrl since you have to use it to get there in the first place anyway.08:44
hexstarmajorpayne: really? I thought you had to do ctrl :P08:44
sauvinOh. Never mind. It's in a "layout" thingie.08:44
MilitantPotatoVery, very now.08:44
MilitantPotatonew.08:44
MilitantPotatothe lingo is killing me08:44
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MajorPaynehexstar: Nope.  Once you are there you can just use alt to move around.08:45
togrMilitantPotato, you appear to have plenty of space on your filesystems08:45
hexstarah cool08:45
MilitantPotatoyea08:45
MajorPayneBut the Ctrl does not hurt anything.08:45
hexstarMajorPayne: ok08:45
defryskMilitantPotato, when using a terminal the <tab> button is your friend for autocompletion08:45
MilitantPotatoI cleared the 250gigger incase the resizing of partitions crashed my HD08:45
hexstarMilitantPotato: and you can press up to go to your previous commands08:45
togrand yet you get errors about "unable to write file" when you try to start nautilus?08:45
MilitantPotatoi noticed that, and it stores what you last typed, even if it wasn't run08:46
MilitantPotatounlike the dos version08:46
togrpeople, if we can get MilitantPotato to run nautilus, s/he'll be much happier08:46
defryskMilitantPotato, yes the terminal has many powers08:46
MilitantPotatohe*08:46
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hexstarDOS is absolutely weak when compared to the *nix terminal. Anything you want done can be done on the terminal :D08:46
krinnshey how i check my 3ware hardware raid controller status08:46
MajorPaynehexstar: Not "anything".  You can't look at pictures in the termanal.08:47
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hexstarMajorPayne: lol true08:47
togrMilitantPotato, try typing "nautilus" to the shell08:47
hexstaranything non gui08:47
MilitantPotatocan I run two shells safely?08:47
togras many as you like08:47
hexstaryes tyou can08:47
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: You can run as much shells as you have ram to.08:48
hexstaruntil you max out your ram and vm...:P08:48
togrctrl-shift-t will give you more tabs with independent shells08:48
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: But that would be a lot of shells.08:48
defryskshells kitchen08:48
togrctrl-shift-n gives you a new terminal window08:48
MilitantPotatoah nice shortcut08:48
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MilitantPotatoSo is there any reliable way to get Linux to work with NTFS?08:49
hexstarnot yet militantpotato08:49
MilitantPotatoOk, one quick question08:49
hexstaryou can do read ok but rw is not stable yet08:49
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hexstarMilitantpotato: as to why, m$ released the details on their previous filesystems but has kept the inner workings of the ntfs filesystem internal and thus adding full ntfs support is difficult to do reliably08:50
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MilitantPotatowell, before NTFS they didn't have much that improved over DOS08:51
hexstarof course with the nt and 2k source leaks it should be faily easy to do... :P08:51
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hexstarmajorpayne: it can, with 3rd party utilities08:51
togrhexstar, please tell08:51
MajorPaynehexstar: I tried to use it once.  It's only ext2 and it was buggy.08:51
MilitantPotatoGPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin08:51
MilitantPotatoIs this shock wave flash?08:52
MajorPayneBut maybe it improved.08:52
toogodoohow ar eyou guys talkin now? windows usin mirc or linux usin xchat???08:52
hexstarhttp://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs08:52
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MajorPaynetoogodoo: irssi on Linux.08:52
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MajorPaynetoogodoo: But you can use X-Chat on Windows also.08:52
hexstarthere's so many utilities that do that: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=mount+ext3+windows&btnG=Search ...ufs is the real hard one08:52
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toogodoohow do ya find out about all this stuff...this is harder than i thought :-(08:53
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togrhow would MilitantPotato go about getting a nautilus that runs?08:53
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hexstartoogodoo: google :)08:53
mongolaitoogodoo, a little bit at a time. Knowledge builds up ;)08:53
MilitantPotatoIt works fine sometimes, sometimes08:53
MajorPayneNautilus doesn't run.08:53
togrno?08:54
hexstarkde is better then gnome anyways :P08:54
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togrI'm trying to help, not to start religious wars08:54
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swajabout 7 years myself :/08:54
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swajand the kde vs. gnome argument gets old08:54
tsockshexstar: sure ! :)08:54
MajorPaynetogr: I meant to say, "Nautilus doesn't run?".08:55
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hexstarwith kde, at least the file manager works :P08:55
hexstarlol08:55
MilitantPotatoI cant get kde to run08:55
togrMajorPayne, that's what MilitantPotato indicated above08:55
hexstaro_O08:55
mongolaiit's more of a QT vs. GTK argument anyway08:55
anurag_mishraI installed realplayer from their website by the .bin file. How can I uninstall it?08:55
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MilitantPotatoNaut doesn't let me copy, move or much else between drives08:55
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togrThe whole "how to move files with spaces in the name" problem disappears then08:55
MilitantPotatoI get mount errors, or it just says it failed08:55
hexstarmilitantpotato: what format is the drive?08:56
tograt least until MilitantPotato gains enough experience to appreciate the usefulness of the shell08:56
MajorPayneMilitantPotato: I don't think that is a problem with Nautilus.  I think that is a problem with the mounting.08:56
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toogodooisnt there a program that looks just like windows explorer? i thought that replaced that kde gnome crap...do i gotta have it too???08:56
tsocksanurag_mishra: there's no info in the site ?08:56
hexstartoogodoo: linspire08:56
anurag_mishratsocks: I dont think so08:56
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toogodooeplore2fs08:56
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hexstarthat's not for *nix08:56
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toogodooit says it is08:57
MajorPaynetoogodoo: "It's spelled Linux but prounounced Not Windows".08:57
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hexstarexplore2fs  1.07  Binary  .zip  Windows    explore2fs-1.07.zip08:57
hexstarThere's no linux binary08:57
togrwho is toogodoo, and why does it smell somewhat trolly?08:57
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hexstaryou might be able to compile it on linux but why would you lol? Linux can access those formats natively08:57
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tsocksanurag_mishra: what about "./file.bin --help" ?... something like the nvidia propietary driver...08:58
swajtoogodoo, if you'd rather have a "windows" experience, why not run windows... you know instead of that kde/gnome "crap" :)08:58
carterWhy do people switch to Linux and then bitch when they can't get everything exactly the same?08:58
carterIt makes zero sense08:58
hexstarlinspire is the ugly windows + linux creation08:58
jerbull88Enter text here...08:58
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MajorPaynecarter: When I have to use Windows (at work) I complain because I can't get it exactly the same as Linux :-P08:58
mongolaicarter, because they don't know what to expect08:58
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anurag_mishratsocks: lemme try08:58
serohello08:58
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saucissonCarinArr: yep these guys are boring08:59
tsocksanurag_mishra: ok, just tell me ...08:59
carterI remember customizing my Windows to act like Linux08:59
MajorPayne!hi | sero08:59
ubotusero: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!08:59
togrMajorPayne, you use cygwin, I suppose?08:59
carterMy windows is OpenOffice, Firefox, Gaim...08:59
MilitantPotatoOne question08:59
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MajorPaynetogr: Not the same :-(08:59
MajorPaynetogr: But I do.08:59
FreakyTallKidhowdy08:59
MilitantPotatowhen I replace my mobo/cpu/ram, will I need to re-install ubuntu?08:59
hexstarI remember those trojans on my windows box...and more viruses...and even more...and then I switched08:59
anurag_mishratsocks: I provides no argument for uninstall08:59
marx2kDoes anyone happen to have any advice for nvidia overscanning issues on a 1080p hdtv via DVI-HDMI?08:59
carterI remember it slowing to a crawl under the weight of spywear08:59
jerbull88militant, no09:00
hexstarmilitantpotato: with linux you shouldn't have to09:00
MilitantPotatoAh that's great.09:00
swajI remember trying out Windows Vista a couple weeks ago and going... hmm.... nah Beryl still wins :P09:00
marx2k!overscan09:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about overscan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:00
toogodooi dont like windows but i spent 25 yrs in the old school computer biz and dont want to go back to command/terminal commands etc. i like nice guis and all i wanna do is email, surf, newsgroups, and security...so i dont need all this confounded gobbledegook, i want a user version not a developer ver... i despise windows but it was the only game in town way back when09:00
MajorPayneAhh, more important with Ubuntu you shouldnt have to.09:00
carterI want to try Beryl09:00
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MilitantPotatoI want a better GUI, but my last attempt only destroyed my install09:00
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hexstarthat's the nice thing about linux, the ekrnel has all the drivers built in...so that means when you add a device there's no long searching for devices...it just works, and when you remove critical parts like a mobo and replace it the kernel can handle that too because it has all the drivers already and is built to handle such changes without error09:00
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anurag_mishra tsocks: I provides no argument for uninstall09:01
swajtoogodoo, you haven't tried Ubuntu have you?09:01
hexstarwhy is toogodoo in here?09:01
hexstarlol09:01
marx2ktoogodoo, typically Ubuntu is what you describe unless you want to get your hands dirty and deal with some serious options in any of your programs09:01
hexstarubuntu is like the free version of mac os x :)09:01
FreakyTallKidanurag_mishara: im with tsocks, im completely new to Ubuntu but really want to convert09:01
carterI was typing out a tutorial for Windows the other day, and I remember thinking "damn, I wish I could just give them commandlines for this shit"09:01
toogodooi have tried ubuntu 5 times and numerous live sessions with it09:01
swajtoogodoo, you really could successfully run an Ubuntu install without ever touching the console09:01
carterinstead of going, now click on the box in the upper left corner09:01
MilitantPotatoIs there a quick and easy way to install a "fancier" gui?09:02
hexstarI'd die without the console :D09:02
MajorPaynehexstar: I hate Mac OS X.  Mac OS X is like the crappy version of Ubuntu.09:02
tsocksanurag_mishra: hmm... have you tried looking on the website ?09:02
vecinahelp me  get one less customer for windows - my girlfriend. She only wants to be able to watch her thai movies at www.thaitv.tv  But it only seems to work at all under windows09:02
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togrhexstar, you would, I would, but newbies appreciate learning the console in small steps09:02
MajorPaynehaxorjoe: I am running Ubuntu on my MacBook :-P09:02
MajorPaynehexstar: ^^09:02
marx2k!modelines09:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modelines - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:02
toogodoothe partitioner is sick...but everybody dares me to use partitin magiv which i know very well09:02
cartervecina, give me a moment to work on it09:02
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vecinacarter: Much appreciated09:02
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jerbull88militant, have you tried any new themes or checked out beryl09:02
anurag_mishratsocks: they do provide some forum etc, thought that some one wud know here. Anyways, thanks for help09:02
MilitantPotatoNo, beryl looks great though09:03
hexstarI plan to install ubuntu on my mac mini since it's intel, ubuntu supports efi now right? :D09:03
hexstarmeaning it should just boot off the cd fine09:03
MilitantPotatoI just fail miserably at installing them09:03
MilitantPotatoI tried cazis? or w/e09:03
jerbull88beryl can really give u a fancier gui09:03
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swajMilitantPotato, give beryl a try, installation on Ubuntu is very easy.  Just make sure you have a graphics card that has direct rendering ;)09:03
MajorPaynehexstar: I had no problem with my MacBook (intel).09:03
SoulPropagationSo let's say I run ddrescue on an old, deteriorating hard disk. When it's done, should I run it again with the same logfile?09:03
hexstarmajorpayne: great :D09:03
MilitantPotatoI have a 1950xt09:03
cartervecina, give me the link to a tv program that doesn't require log-in09:03
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cartermy thai is non-existant09:03
jerbull88militant, yea u def need a good video card and cpu09:03
swajMilitantPotato, as long as you have the ATI drivers loaded, you should be good to go09:04
MilitantPotatoi do09:04
FreakyTallKidSorry to interupt all but I'm in need of a little bit of help. I know next to nothing about the Linux console and could really use a hand with installing a package containing Binaries e.g. Hamachi09:04
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hexstarI like ubuntu, it's easy to use yet you can still get your hands very dirty at any time :D ...the perfect mix of stable good workings out of the box and the ability to geek out :D09:04
anbuInstalled ubuntu yday and was working fine and after some update it restarted with message kernel panic09:04
MilitantPotatomy CPU is decent, a 3800X2 at 2.65ghz09:04
vecinacarter: crud, thats not possible... if it helps, the thing only seems to run in IE at all. not firefox09:04
jerbull88freaky, i think automatix will install hamachi09:04
hexstaramd is going bankrupt09:04
cartercan you tell me what filetype the movies are?09:04
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FreakyTallKidjerbull88: thanks09:04
varun0hexstar: I beg to differ :-)09:04
MilitantPotatoAMD should catch up with their quad cores09:05
MajorPayne!automatix | jerbull8809:05
ubotujerbull88: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe09:05
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vecinacarter: They're streaming09:05
MilitantPotatoIntel made a huge mistake by putting two dual cores in one die09:05
carterbut are they realplayer?09:05
vecinacarter: otherwise i dunnjo. she's being dismissive09:05
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MilitantPotatothey use the FSB to communicate09:05
jerbull88nevermind...09:05
vecinacarter: No, "media 10" she says09:05
hexstarAmd is still on 65 and intel is on 45....they haven't even gotten their quads out...and you think they'll survive??? yeah right lol09:05
varun0MilitantPotato: yea.....they scale really, really badly09:05
vecinacarter Windows media 1009:05
carterDamn vecina09:05
MilitantPotatoSoooo09:05
carterlet's see if we can do this09:05
varun0nextstate: Intel isn't on 4509:05
MilitantPotatoWho wants to help me with beryl09:05
varun0er I mean hexstar09:05
krautmoin09:05
hexstarthey are working on it and amd is working on 6509:05
MilitantPotato45nm will be out mid 200809:06
hexstarright09:06
varun0hexstar: AMD has 65 nm and in the market. Intel hasn't released 45 nm yet09:06
jerbull88militant, its real easy to install thru  synaptic09:06
carterDoes anyone know if automatix2 includes the windows plug-ins?09:06
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hexstarbut amd hasn't even started on 45 yet, they're still on the quad09:06
marx2kwindows plug ins?09:06
MajorPayne!automatix | carter09:06
ubotucarter: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe09:06
jerbull88automatix is bad, but it contains several09:06
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carterI love automatix09:07
varun0hexstar: wrong. they are two separate processes. they will probably make a 45nm shrink of K1009:07
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carterIt works like a charm for me09:07
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MajorPayne!worksforme | carter09:07
ubotucarter: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.09:07
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hexstarmaybe varun0, we'lll just have to wait and see...in their current state they're in financial troubles and struggling to catch up to intel...09:07
hexstarI've always liked intel myself...they never fail :D09:07
carterthat bot is getting on my nerves09:07
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vecinalol09:07
varun0hexstar: the processor market is cyclical09:08
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carterubotu!*@* added to ignore list.09:08
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togrcarter, that is because you don't want to listen09:08
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carter^_^09:08
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varun0hexstar: haha.........yea Netburst was awesome. Didn't fail at all09:08
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togrit is giving you good advice09:08
bradfordhi guys just dumped vista and loaded ubuntu i need to know how to right code to ext/ppp i am logined as admin but cannot login as root from load page09:08
hexstarwell, Intel can bounce back quickly09:08
anbuwhen I start in recovery mode "SMP alternative: switching to UP code"09:08
hexstarmore quickly then amd :P09:08
carterTogr, I have excellent stability09:08
varun0hexstar: and so will AMD :-) they leapfrog each other09:08
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SoulPropagationCan anyone tell me what to do after I finish runnning ddrescue on an old hard drive?09:08
bradfordwrite i mean09:08
hexstarvarun0: LIES! :P09:09
varun0hexstar: have you followed stock prices recently?09:09
jerbull88bradford, you have to set the root password first09:09
hexstarI don't do stock09:09
hexstarlol09:09
bradfordi did root/ password09:09
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bradfordbut i cannot login from09:09
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hexstarI'd rather stick my money in a bank and get a garunteed interest rate09:09
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bradfordpage that is given to me09:09
bradfordafter boot09:09
SidletI personally think stock prices reflect what the corp's are doing vs what actual end users are doing. *shrug* call me stupid tho, thats what i think.09:09
varun0hexstar: which barely beats inflation :-)09:09
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togrcarter, very well, but will your way of doing it work for anyone else?  Even one as inexperienced as MilitantPotato?  Will you support that approach for them?09:09
hexstarvarun0: at least it's stable :)09:09
varun0Sidlet: hexstar was talking about financial troubles, that's why I was quoting stock prices09:10
MajorPaynetogr: Let alone upgrades.09:10
varun0hexstar: oh AMD is very stable..........they aren't going anywhere09:10
togrMajorPayne, exactly09:10
bradfordi get mesg cannot login as root from here09:10
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Sidletvarun0, I was tying the conversation in with your Intel vs AMD conversation :)09:10
hexstarvarun0: they're going somewhere alright, either up or down and it all depends on their next move09:10
jerbull88bradford, thats really odd...have u tried logging in as ur admin and then setting root password with the gui09:10
varun0hexstar: you forget, they have ATi, as well. And ATi has GPUs in all major consoles, among other things09:11
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bradfordyes i can do from the optional boot but all in command promt and i don't know codes enough to do from there i just need to add a script to ppp for my usb modem09:11
hexstarvarun0: Plus when's the last time you saw a amd ad? Intel has such a huge ad budget because so many computers use their processors that they can't help but get a big market share. Dell for a short period used AMD processors but then promptly pulled out as AMD lagged behind as usual :P09:11
vecinacarter: It says i need a plugin. It cant find the plugin though.09:11
cartervecina, still looking09:11
carteryeah, it's going to tell you that09:12
SoulPropagationhexstar: Dell still uses AMD. I just helped someone buy one09:12
hexstarvarun0: that's a good point, that could be a good fallback09:12
Sidletsuch as the company A comes out with XYZ processor, then company b comes out with one that does XYZ and brews coffee, what reflects that is what corporations have already signed on to use vs what end users make up. Dont get me wrong there is an end user market, but what your seeing flux in stock is when Conglom-O inc. decides to purchase the next 5 million pc's.09:12
vecinacarter: Apparantly thailand doesnt care much about free software09:12
carterApparently not09:12
bradfordafter boot i get user and pass i can use mine but root will not work? is the a shell app in the command section09:12
varun0hexstar: I saw an AMD ad in the wall street journal a couple of weeks ago :-)09:12
hexstarvarun0: oh :P09:12
varun0hexstar: and Dell still sells AMD........don't know where you get your info from :-)09:13
MilitantPotatoI can't run beryl09:13
bradfordor a way to write script to folder from command prompt09:13
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hexstarvarun0: I don't see any amd machines09:13
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cartervecina, since everyone here hate automatix, let me look under synaptic for what you need09:13
MilitantPotatoit doesn't support my video card, peachy.09:13
vecinacarter: so what plugin do i need to find?09:13
blisshi09:13
carterI'm looking, h/o09:13
jerbull88bradford, im sort of unclear on what ur talking about09:13
vecinaoh ok09:13
illriginalGuys... I need to mount my digital camera... can someone help me?09:13
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hexstarvarun0: link?09:13
carterwhat media player do you use?09:14
togrbradford, you're not making sense09:14
vecinacarter: its trying to run mplayer09:14
jerbull88brad, do u need to edit a file09:14
blisswhats the  command to look at network setup is it ifconfig?09:14
ScottyI was playing around with screen resolutions and stuff the other day and I restarted last night and I was in a really low resolution. So I went into settings and tried to make it bigger, only to find out that it wouldn't get any higher. So I thought maybe screens were screwed up since I was playing with dual screens the other day, too. Anyway, I tried switching my primary to my secondary and vice-versa so I could make the resolution higher, but now w09:14
Scottyhen I try to boot in Kubuntu, I get the loading screen, and then some text comes up but goes away before I can read it, and then it goes back to the loading screen for 30 seconds or so and then a black screen comes up with a blinking underscore.09:14
togrbradford, what are you trying to do?09:14
vecinacarter: which seems to be the best for this IMHO09:14
ScottyIs there anyway to restore the defaults?09:14
carterThx vecina09:14
bradfordi use a usb sprint wireless pcmcia card for net09:14
illriginalCan someone help me mount my Digital Camera via USB?09:14
varun0hexstar: http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DNDWLB2&s=dhs&sm=2 to start with09:14
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SoulPropagationScotty: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I think09:15
varun0hexstar: http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspndt_53x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs09:15
illriginalCan someone help me mount my Digital Camera via USB?09:15
blissDBO: how;s the coffee?09:15
ScottySoulPropagation, in the recovery console I type that?09:15
varun0hexstar: if you actually go to the website, you might see some :-)09:15
MilitantPotatoMine does what scotty is saying every install09:15
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MilitantPotatoor I get a distorted blue screen09:15
SoulPropagationScotty: Any console, yeah09:15
bradfordhave to add #connection script to ppp/peers/sprint_EVDO09:15
hexstarvarun0: yeah, there are *some* but intel is dominant, there was I period when dell had chosen amd as their dominant processor09:15
bradfordand vi sprint-evdo Scritp09:15
jerbull88brad, gedit command09:15
MilitantPotatoHas anyone gotten beryl to work on newer ATI's?09:15
hexstar*a09:16
varun0hexstar: nope. never happened09:16
bradfordcannot save from notepad to the folder i don't have permission09:16
varun0hexstar: Intel was always the dominant. They just started adding AMD. Do some research. I'm off to bed. Peace09:16
hexstarvarun0: I know there was....09:16
bradfordlike i said i just dumped formated vista for last time and got this09:16
jerbull88brad sudo gedit (file ext)09:16
bradfordyes will not let me save09:16
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MilitantPotatodid you do sudo first?09:17
bradfordto sudo vi /etc/ppp/peers/Sprint_EVDO09:17
togrbradford,  what jerbull88 said or save somewhere else and do 'sudo mv file /etc/ppp/...'09:17
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blissgetting no such comand when i try ifconfig?09:17
bradfordk will try thanks09:17
MajorPaynebliss: "sudo ifconfig"09:17
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kmindi|efircdoch ich bin da09:17
titusich auch09:17
bradfordsudo mv thank i put path of file ?09:17
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cartervecina, I can't find it09:17
hexstarvarun0: but whatever that doesn't matter, intel is still dominant on the dell site and thus gets more ad exposure because of the intel inside logo....and what about those incorrect benchmarks amd had up?09:17
vecinacarter: oh well... thanks09:18
tituskmindi|efirc: wechseln09:18
jerbull88sudo gedit (file ext)09:18
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illriginalCan someone help me mount my Digital Camera via USB?09:18
MilitantPotatoIntel has done the same hexstar09:18
SoulPropagationillriginal: Is it MSC?09:18
MajorPayneillriginal: Did you try plugging it in?09:18
jon03guys i need help i dont know or why more than one x server tries to run how can i fix it ?09:18
bradfordthanks you both so much trying now09:18
illriginalI plug in my camera... and it won't let me access it... I need permission to access it.09:18
hexstarmillitantpotato: I don't believe so09:18
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MilitantPotatonah they did09:19
SoulPropagationillriginal: sudo09:19
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MilitantPotatoAMD made a big fuss about it, then AMD did it a few months later09:19
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blissMajorPayne: thanks09:19
illriginalsudo?... right?09:19
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jerbull88illriginal, have you trie loging in as root and giving other users permission09:19
Scottybe right back, gonna go try that out09:19
Scottythanks09:19
MajorPayneillriginal: Try "sudo chown youruser:yourgroup  /path/to/mount/point"09:20
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hexstarmillitantpotato: that actually does ring a bell oddly09:20
MajorPayneillriginal: "chown -r" sorry.  You need to add the -r.09:20
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illriginalMajor.. there is no mount point for my camera.09:20
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MajorPayneillriginal: It has to have a mount point if it is mounted.  Did you check in /media or /mnt?09:21
illriginalwhen I plug it... I get a pop up window of "My Computer" and There's a USB icon... I click it.. and it says there's probably no media in it.09:21
carterillriginal, is there a setting on your camera to have it act as a harddrive or usb drive?09:21
rryanhmm.. so is it safe to dist-upgrade to 7.04 from 6.10 yet ?09:21
illriginalcarter no...09:21
MajorPaynerryan: 7.04 was out in April.  I would say yes.09:22
carterillriginal, are you sure?  mine has one buried in the sub-menus of the setting menu09:22
MilitantPotatono-one answered about using beryl on newer ATI's09:22
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MilitantPotatoCan it be done?09:22
hexstaryou know what fine, so they both do marketing schemes to make each other look fine...lol fine...but the fact is that intel always ends up on top :P :)09:22
SoulPropagationMilitantPotato: check the wiki for beryl.09:22
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rryanwhen I dist-upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10  I had issues that didn't get fixed until i did a fresh install of 6.10..    just wondering09:23
SoulPropagationhexstar: for a while AMD had the best procs, besides they've both been in business for ... ... er I dunno, a long time, I don't think they're leaving any time soon and if they are it's a merger.09:23
hexstarmilitantpotato:  What are the system requirements for Beryl?09:23
hexstar    Beryl runs acceptably well on a GeForce 3/i855/Radeon 7500, 256MB of RAM, and a 1.2GHz processor. It also works best with Xorg 7.1 and requires a recent version of Mesa.09:23
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rryanMajorPayne : thanks09:23
hexstarsoul: yes amd was on top for a while...but intel is now on top....I guess I just have a slant towards intel since that's what I grew up with while in reality it is indeed true that the market will keep switching between the two as each comes out with newer better technology09:24
MilitantPotatoUnsupported09:24
MilitantPotato    * X1300 / R515 based cards.09:24
MilitantPotato    * X1600 / R530 based cards.09:24
MilitantPotato    * X1800 / R520 based cards.09:24
MilitantPotato    * X1900 / R580 based cards.09:24
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MilitantPotatoI'm a R58009:24
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hexstarwhere di you find that?09:24
MajorPaynerryan: Ahh.  Sorry.  I can't tell you how your upgrade will go.  IT went fine for me (That doesn't mean it will for you).09:24
MajorPayne!paste | MilitantPotato09:24
ubotuMilitantPotato: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:24
MilitantPotatohttp://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon09:24
rryanMajorPayne : *nod* thanks... just making sure there weren't any glaring known issues09:24
hexstaroh09:24
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bradfordthanks agian for your help i guess i will have to do a lot of study it will not let me move to the file either don't have permission?09:25
illriginalthe camera is NOT mounted.09:25
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illriginalI cannot MOUNT the camera.09:25
MajorPaynerryan: Just make sure you back up any data.09:25
bradfordthanks again09:25
MilitantPotatocya brad, good luck :)09:25
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hexstarillriginal: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/USB-Digital-Camera-HOWTO.html09:25
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carterwhat camera is it?09:25
illriginalbeen there09:25
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illriginaldone that.09:25
illriginalsorry hexstar.09:25
hexstaroh :P09:26
jerbull88haaha09:26
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hexstarrats lol09:26
SoulPropagationIs there a way to run Windows in Ubuntu Parallels-style with a free ($0 or FOSS) setup? With a shared desktop and such09:26
hexstarfoiled again :P09:26
carterillriginal, what camera is it?09:26
rryanMajorPayne : yea, will do ..09:26
MajorPayneSoulPropagation: I heard VM Ware works well.09:26
SoulPropagationalso, can y'all please tab-complete my name if you can so it'll highlight for me? Thanksomuch:D09:26
illriginalthe digital camera would let me see my pics through amarok... but for some reason now amarok doesn't let me see the pics.09:26
hexstarsoul:vmware player? if you can find a already made vmware windows imagew09:26
illriginalcarter it's a no name brand.09:26
magnetronhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo  SoulPropagation09:26
carterah, that's a bad sign illriginal09:26
hexstarno name...:P09:27
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SoulPropagationmagnetron: think that applies to Vista too?09:27
illriginalcarter not when amarok was letting me see my pics.09:27
carterillriginal, have you tried F-stop?09:27
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illriginalcan someone tell me how to be "owner" of my own damn PC...09:27
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illriginalso that I can simply change permissions09:27
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hexstarwhat do you mean, become root?09:27
illriginaland mount my camera.09:27
illriginalyes.09:27
cartersudo man09:27
MajorPayneillriginal: use sudo09:27
cartersudo09:27
jerbull88illriginal login as root09:27
scottyTo whoever gave me the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg advice, you are a God and I owe you my life. I am no longer forced to use XP.09:27
hexstarin terminal you can do "su root"09:27
illriginal:\09:27
SoulPropagationalso, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization magnetron09:27
illriginalsu root?09:27
illriginalbrb09:27
hexstarnot recommended though09:27
illriginalscrew that.09:27
illriginalbrb09:27
PhysicX* CPUFreq Utilities: Setting ondemand CPUFreq governor...               [fail] 09:27
PhysicX whats wrong?09:27
MajorPayneYou can't su root unless you set the root password.09:27
magnetronSoulPropagation: i think microsoft charge extra for letting you use Vista in a VM09:28
illriginalsee09:28
illriginalnow it works09:28
MajorPayneTry "sudo -i".  That will give you a root like console.09:28
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bullgard4English help wanted: Right-click on a Gnome panel opens a context menu having an entry 'Add to Panel'. Selecting 'Add to Panel' opens a dialog with a 'Custom Applications Launcher' button. Pressing this button will open a dialog. What is the name of this dialog? Make a Launcher?09:28
jerbull88major, thats real easy tho09:28
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illriginalhow can i have perma root09:28
orbisvicis!et09:28
carterillriginal, I wouldn't try that09:28
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org09:28
illriginali don't care if it's dangerous09:28
hexstarmagnetron: yeah those dumb .... changed the license to say it was ok to do vm with vista and then changed it back to disallow it...wtf!09:28
illriginalpeople have to go through 2 different passwords just to log onto my machine :P09:28
carterillriginal, you'll just be back here asking for help to fix it later09:28
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illriginalcarter, if i restart my pc09:28
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carterillriginal, I haven't enabled my root09:28
hexstarillriginal: don't run as root for long periods of time, not good security09:28
toresbehexstar: Are you the same Hex Star as is on the cctalk mailing list?09:29
MajorPaynejerbull88: IMHO it's better to use sudo -i than set the root password.  But only use sudo -i if you really have to.  Just sudo should work fine.09:29
rryanif you want to temporarily become root for as long as your shell is open, you can type 'sudo bash'09:29
hexstartoresbe: maybe, why?09:29
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illriginalim gonna have to retype su root evertime09:29
MajorPaynerryan: sudo -i09:29
carterno, don't use sudo09:29
hexstarillriginal: yes09:29
cartersorry su09:29
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FruitieXYes it's possible to su root access with sudo su09:29
Slartbullgard4: "Create Launcher" on my feisty 64bit09:29
rryanMajorPayne : yea that works :)09:29
magnetron!noroot | jerbull8809:29
ubotujerbull88: Regardless of your choice: Please do not advise against user security policy and create a root password, please see !rootsudo09:29
toresbehexstar: I was just curious. I'm on the list myself.09:29
MilitantPotatook people09:29
illriginal=\ just to look at my own pics and transfer them to my own machine?09:29
FruitieXso, running su as root :}09:29
illriginalbleh.09:29
hexstaroh ok09:29
MilitantPotatobeen up 38 hours straight, time for some sleep09:30
hexstaryeah I am09:30
nox-HandAnyone know of a CD ripper?09:30
magnetron!noroot | FruitieX09:30
ubotuFruitieX: Regardless of your choice: Please do not advise against user security policy and create a root password, please see !rootsudo09:30
bullgard4Slart: Thank you.09:30
jerbull88ubotu, what a watch dog09:30
MilitantPotatoNight09:30
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hexstarer actually remember they banned me toresbe?09:30
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hexstarbecause of that russian hosting debate... :(09:30
FruitieXwhoopsie :] 09:30
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toresbeAh yes.09:31
hexstaryeah...got everyone upset...yikes!09:31
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magnetronnox-Hand: sound juicer, which is bundled with ubuntu, can rip cd:s09:31
toresbeI seem to recall you starting off your membership by discussing something completely unrelated, too, then arguing with the admin when he told you to stop.09:31
hexstarand then the admin threatened to call my isp and use his isp running powers to get my account cancelled09:31
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jussi01!offtopic09:31
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!09:31
magnetronhexstar: the ban list got purged a week ago.09:32
nox-Handmagnetron: Just noticed xD09:32
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nox-HandTHanks though09:32
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hexstarthat's interesting...I'm not gong back after how the admin threatened me tho09:32
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jombeeI have conky running on my laptop with i810 chipset... it runs fine but blinks09:33
TixerI have a server running FF, which I admin over VNC, For some reason, the max res over VNC is 640x, how do I make it bigger?09:33
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SlartTixer: I think you can set it when you start the vnc server09:34
MajorPayneFF?09:34
TixerFeisty09:34
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jussi01Tixer: which vincserver program are you using?09:34
carterThat's what I was about to ask jussi0109:34
TixerRemote-Desktop, whatever's standard in Ubuntu09:34
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SlartTixer: there is a -geometry switch afaik09:34
Tixerit's not that VNC is limiting the res09:34
MajorPayneTixer: Or you can use ssh with -X.09:34
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Tixerit's that ubuntu won't let me pick a res higher than 64009:35
MajorPayneTixer: That will just forward a lone window.09:35
Tixerwhen I had a monitor connected, max res was 128009:35
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jussi01Tixer: man remote-desktop09:35
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hexstarthe threat...09:35
hexstarOne thing you might want to be aware of... Running the classiccmp list is a09:35
hexstarhobby for me. In my day job, I own an ISP. I will be calling your ISP's09:35
hexstarnetwork admin/abuse group today and discussing your fraud and net abuse.09:35
hexstarThey may cancel your internet access immediately - I don't know what their09:35
hexstarpolicy is, yet. For most any ISP fraud and/or abuse constitutes a violation09:35
hexstarof their AUP (Acceptable Use Policy). Usually one ISP is helpful to another09:35
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hexstarout of professional courtesy for people who cause fraud & abuse like you.09:35
hexstarBut if they aren't able to help, then I will be contacting your parents both09:35
jussi01!paste09:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:35
hexstarvia registered mail and via telephone to make sure they are aware of the09:35
hexstarproblem you are causing. Hopefully they will do the responsible thing and09:35
hexstarremove your internet access.09:35
hexstarClassiccmp Management09:35
hexstarJay West09:35
hexstarjwest@classiccmp.org09:35
hexstarsorry, didn't mean for it to do multiple lines like that09:36
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jussi01hexstar: try to use pastebin in future09:36
hexstarok sorry09:36
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PhysicXwhats is site posting code?09:37
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hexstar?09:38
MajorPayne!paste | PhysicX09:38
ubotuPhysicX: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:38
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PhysicXthanks09:38
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varronhow does the packaging of ubuntu compared with debian? is fiesty fawn comparable to debian 'stable'? what would be comparable to debian 'testing'?09:38
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jombeecloser to testing09:38
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MajorPayneI think Ubuntu is based off Debian unstable?09:38
hexstarbut it's still damn stable09:39
hexstar:)09:39
jombeebut my ubuntu box is just as stable as my debian ever was09:39
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PhysicXHow to change policy from 800Mhz to 2Ghz ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30415/09:39
gordonjcpMajorPayne: not really09:39
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hexstarphysicx? are you looking to overclock?09:39
varronwhich is the released version of ubuntu?09:39
gordonjcpMajorPayne: also, "unstable" in this case means "subject to change", not "unreliable"09:39
MajorPaynegordonjcp: I thought they based it off unstable but just chose core packages to make sure was stable before each releace.09:39
jussi01!debian09:40
ubotuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!09:40
gordonjcpMajorPayne: sometihng along those lines09:40
MajorPaynegordonjcp: I did not mean that Ubuntu is unstable.09:40
PhysicXhexstar: no, i just want that cpu step up then its starts using CPU more.09:40
varronfiesty fawn is a released version?09:41
jerbull88ubuntu is based of debian unstable(sid) which unstable means that it changes and thats causing an issue with compaitbility because ubuntu is constatnyl getting less compatible with debian stable(sarge)09:41
Tixernone of the things work09:41
Tixerman remote-desktop is fail09:41
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hexstartixer, can you paste the output when you do man remote-desktop please?09:41
MajorPayneTixer: If it is a server you are running there is no real need to use VNC.  Use ssh.09:41
jombeephysicx are you on a laptop with a variable proc?09:41
TixerI prefer to use both09:41
MajorPayneTixer: A X server will just slow down your server.09:42
varronhow can something be call a software release if it is still changing?09:42
TixerNot all apps on my server can use SSH09:42
jussi01!feisty | varron09:42
ubotuvarron: Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents09:42
hexstartixer: use webmin as the "gui", much better09:42
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PhysicXjombee: yeah09:42
Tixerlinkplz?09:42
MajorPaynevarron: Fiesty Fawn is not changing.09:42
hexstarwebmin.com09:42
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Tixerthat doesn't help09:43
jerbull88ff is not changng just many of the packages09:43
varronbut fiesty fawn is based on debian's 'unstable', which is changing.09:43
MajorPaynevarron: But Fiesty Fawn is based off a snapshot of a changing distro (Debian stable0.09:43
TixerI can already do that stuff over SSH09:43
hexstarwell, I suggest it as a good not so cpu intensive alternative to x09:43
MajorPaynejerbull88: Isn't the updates just security related?09:43
Tixerit's other programs09:43
jerbull88no09:43
hexstaryou shouldn't be running gui apps on a server09:43
jombeephysicx I use k on my laptop let me find out what the name of the app is09:43
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varronMajorPayne, debian stable is a release.09:43
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joeu__hi09:43
MajorPaynejerbull88: Are you sure?  When Ubuntu makes a releace I thought they only include security, maybe some bug fixes09:44
Tixerhexstar: I also should be using a real cooling solution to cool a server, and not Q-Tips09:44
PhysicXjombee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30415/09:44
jerbull88they cover a broad range of packages to fix bugs09:44
Tixer>.<09:44
PhysicXsoryr09:44
MajorPaynevarron: So is FF.09:44
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hexstarmajorpayne: aren't some feature additions?09:44
PhysicXjombee: cpufrequtils09:44
hexstartixer: lol09:44
SoulPropagationhexstar: What was that about the isp fraud?09:44
Tixermy thing doesn't get that much load09:44
hexstarsoul: the threat I got from the cctalk admin after he banned me09:44
MajorPaynehexstar: I don't think.  Not between releaces.  But I could be wrong.09:44
Tixerso it doesn't matter09:44
joeu__some people have problem with the new version of firefox? (2.0.0.5)09:44
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varronMajorPayne, so fiesty fawn is assumed not to change besides any secuirty updates?09:45
jussi01hexstar: MajorPayneis correct, the only fixes released are security ones on ff09:45
MajorPaynevarron: And bug fixes, as far as I know.09:45
hexstarhe said "fraud" because I did sign up under a different name to try and just continue getting posts...I slipped though and sent a post in and that tipped him off09:45
Tixerso how can I force the resolution to higher09:45
jombee there is an app that you can dock to make it slow fast or dynamic09:45
joeu__since i update firefox, i cant access to the web09:45
jerbull88varron, the core of ff will not change until the next release09:45
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hexstarjussi01: oh you're talking about ff09:45
hexstarthought you were talking about in general09:46
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bullgard4How is a 'launcher' defined? Is it a function (see  http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/84973/0/print/)? Is it a data structure? Is it an executable file (see Ubuntu dialog 'Create Launcher')?09:46
jussi01hexstar: yes - ff - feisty fawn09:46
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hexstarok lol09:46
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SoulPropagationmagnetron: I have a site license for Enterprise, think I can do whatever I want with it =P09:46
jussi01hexstar: so the current release09:46
hexstarindeed09:46
hexstarwhat's the next release called?09:46
varronin that case, 'fiesty fawn' is stable. in that case which is  'testing' in ubuntu?09:46
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MajorPaynevarron: Gutsy Gibbon.09:47
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varronok, thks.09:48
jerbull88major, r u serious, thats the new release?09:48
hexstarah gutsy is the next ubuntu release?09:48
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mweright09:48
hexstarcool09:48
jussi01hexstar: yes09:48
jussi01!release09:48
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases09:48
jerbull88whats a gibbon09:48
hexstarlol09:48
jussi01jerbull88: monkey09:48
SoulPropagationscotty: no problem btw09:48
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MajorPaynejerbull88: That's the next one.09:48
gordonjcphexstar: well not so much fraud, as the way you constantly advocated software piracy on the list09:48
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osfamerona small ape in the family Hylobatidae09:48
jerbull88i like feistys name so much better09:48
SoulPropagationscotty: just try to help someone else with the problem someday =D09:49
jombeeI can't find it09:49
MajorPayneI just call it 7.10.09:49
hexstargordonjcp: see, the russian comment wasn't meant to advocate piracy but everyone took it as such09:49
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jerbull88osfameron, way to go crocodile hunter09:49
jussi01anyway, we need to get back on topic here. who has support questions09:49
SoulPropagationhexstar: What was the comment anyway09:49
scottySoulPropagation: Will do :D09:49
jussi01?09:49
MajorPayneEtch is the only releace that I call by it's name.  And that's because it will not change for a long long time.09:49
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PhysicXanyone use cpufrequtils to control CPU SPEED09:49
gordonjcphexstar: a comment which boiled down to "let's upload lots of copyrighted material to a server in Russia"09:49
hexstarSoulPropagation: I said "Why not host in russia? That way we won't have to worry about copyrights?"09:49
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jussi01!offtopic | hexstar SoulPropagation09:50
ubotuhexstar SoulPropagation: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!09:50
NETWizzKnock Knock09:50
gordonjcphexstar: this is offtopic, anyway09:50
hexstarThe discussion was about doing a vintage software archive, my comment was intended to be such that since some old software has copyrights still we could archive it all publicly without having to worry about the copyrights. I wouldn't think of it as pirating as the software is only used by a minority of people and is 99% of the time abandoned by the creator who may not even exist anymore09:50
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hexstarIt would merely be a safety measure to something that shouldn't be a issue anyways09:50
osfameronhow do I get mutt to use my email address in From and Reply-To?09:51
jussi01hexstar: please go to off topic09:51
hexstark09:51
NETWizzKnock Knock09:51
osfameronI've set "from", "envelope_from" and "hidden_host"...09:51
osfameron(cargo culted from someone else's muttrc, but I'm still seeing   osfameron@myhostname  as the from and reply-to address...)09:51
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MajorPayneosfameron: try use_from="yes"09:51
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hexstarare you in offtopic gordonjcp?09:52
osfameronMajorPayne: ah, ok - I wondered about that, but man muttrc suggested it was the default... I'll try!09:52
MajorPayneenvelope_from should be set to yes and from should be your email.09:52
nahemaenybudy konw if sony vaio laptops suport ubunut 7.04?09:52
jussi01nahema: some do09:52
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nahemai am interesed in ar series09:52
jerbull88jussi, why wouldnt they?09:52
jussi01!hardware | nahema09:52
ubotunahema: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport09:52
hexstargordonjcp?09:53
MajorPayneosfameron: I am just looking at my .muttrc.  I hope that works for you (That's what I have).09:53
jerbull88bios?09:53
hexstar!bios09:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
nahemathanks all09:53
osfameronMajorPayne: yes!  that seems to work09:53
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jussi01jerbull88: somehardware just doesnt work, some is an absolute pain.09:53
majorjrkiam just wondering, why cant ndiswrapper work for other then wifi cards, like webcams etc ?09:53
hexstarbecause ndiswrapper is only for wifi drivers09:53
jerbull88just curious09:53
MajorPayneosfameron: Good.09:54
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osfameronMajorPayne: I also had 'set envelope_from' instead of 'set envelope_from="yes"', maybe that was from a different version of config... seems fine with that change and the use_from09:54
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majorjrkhexstar: thanks for stating the obvious09:54
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hexstarhuh?09:54
hexstaroh09:54
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hexstarwell that's the reason why09:54
SoulPropagationWhy am I banned from #-offtopic? Never even been there09:54
thebighami need help =(09:54
majorjrkthats not what i asked, and that not the reason why09:54
hexstarlol09:54
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MajorPayneosfameron: If I remember corretly "set envelope_from="yes"" is the same as "set envelope_from".  The same as unset and no.09:54
thebighamit says i ahve broken dependencies09:54
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thebighamand i cant install anything09:55
jussi01SoulPropagation: jump into #ubuntu-ops and ask09:55
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osfameronnow if only I could work out how to get offlineimap to talk to fastmail.fm without crashing out, then I could go through the "fun" of setting up different accounts with the same address..09:55
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majorjrki mean, is it impossible or to hard to develop something that can use window driver for webcam like ndiswrapper work for wifi...09:55
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jussi01thebigham: sudo apt-get install -f09:55
hexstarSoulPropagation: you probably have a dhcp assigned ip and your ip was banned from abuse by some other user09:55
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krinnsany one works on 3ware utility09:55
sniff_how to setup pre-up09:55
krinnscommand line09:55
MajorPayneosfameron: Ahh, I can't help you there.  Maybe #mutt may help.09:55
osfameronMajorPayne: yeah, that's waht I'd guessed.  In which case it's only the "use_from" setting that was missing (and the manual is then maybe incorrect?  or perhaps a system wide config somewhere disabled it?)09:55
ExiledSoldierI have a HDD with Windows and a HDD with Ubuntu and want to know how to be able to choose which OS to boot on startup.09:55
jussi01!grub | ExiledSoldier09:56
ubotuExiledSoldier: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:56
osfameronMajorPayne: oh, good idea, ta!09:56
MajorPayneosfameron: Not sure, you can check your /etc/Muttrc09:56
thebighamjussi01: it says unable to lock the download directory09:56
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ihavenoname hi09:56
ihavenoname hi09:56
ihavenoname someone there09:56
hexstarhi09:56
thebighamE: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:56
MajorPayneosfameron: I am not Mutt expert.  I got it to do what I wanted it to do and I didn't touch it since.09:56
pitiHi everyone. I'd like to know if video acceleration is enabled or not with the (official) java plugin for firefox (libjavaplugin_oji.so)09:56
hexstarthebigham, you have to do sudo09:57
osfameronMajorPayne: yeah, that's my philosophy too :-)09:57
sniff_how to setup pre-up09:57
jerbull88exiled, normally when i do a dual boot it is on the same hard drive with different partitions09:57
ihavenoname f09:57
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jussi01!adeptfix | thebigham09:57
ubotuthebigham: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:57
hexstarihavenoname: what? I don't know how to help you with 'f'09:57
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hexstardid you mean f***? that's not appropiate for here09:57
sniff_how to setup pre-up09:58
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hexstarwhat's pre-up?09:58
hexstar!pre-up09:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pre-up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:58
jussi01thebigham: that fix should work for a crashe synaptic also09:58
thebigham beryl-plugins-unsupported-data depends on beryl-plugins-unsupported; however:09:58
thebigham  Package beryl-plugins-unsupported is not installed.09:58
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thebighamdpkg: error processing beryl-plugins-unsupported-data (--configure):09:58
thebigham dependency problems - leaving unconfigured09:58
thebighamErrors were encountered while processing:09:58
thebigham beryl-plugins-unsupported-data09:58
hexstaruse pastebin09:58
Myrttithebigham: thank you for using pastebin the next time09:58
Myrtti!paste | thebigham09:59
ubotuthebigham: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:59
jussi01thebigham: #ubuntu-efffects for beryl stuff09:59
thebighamoh sorry =(09:59
hexstar-f09:59
sniff_my ubuntu network connection was down, how to up back, and my eth0: no link09:59
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jerbull88sniff....in english?09:59
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hexstarsniff: I think you do ifconfig eth0 up10:00
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MajorPaynesniff_: Are you talking about the scripts that get run as your network comes up?10:00
hexstarifconfig eth0 up10:00
Sulo_SeppaDo more people here use kde or gnome?10:01
hexstarkde :D10:01
jerbull88i use gnome10:01
jerbull88some kde apps tho10:01
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togrSulo_Seppa, why?10:01
tsocksSulo_Seppa: KDE Rulezzz.. ;-)10:01
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togrtrying to stir up a religious war?10:01
bullgard4After a cold boot Ubuntu 7.04 will display my OO.o Database not on workspace 4 but on workspace 1 although I have stored the session with Base on workspace 4. Another Ubuntu 7.04 computer does not make this error but its Ubuntu is no upgrade from 6.10.10:01
jerbull88kde seems to be a little unstable10:01
Myrtti_Johny: thank you for the info. Please, turn that off.10:01
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Sulo_Seppatogr: It is very important10:01
toogodooplz see a pastebin entry from toogodoo10:01
hexstarkde is more powerful10:01
toogodoohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30416/10:01
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togrSulo_Seppa, why?10:02
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hexstarhe said it's very important10:02
sniff_hexstar: also cant, my result eth0: no link10:02
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jerbull88kde= more features, less reliable gnome=less bells and whistles, more reliable10:02
allan789help10:02
Sulo_Seppatogr: Because we live in a post-9/11 world where even black people can get jobs. Understood?10:02
allan789help please10:02
togrhexstar, I saw that.  I was asking why it is important10:02
hexstarsniff: that means you have a cable connection loose somewhere, are you sure they're all solid and your router/hubs are up?10:02
thebighamnoone would help me with my problem in ubuntu-effects10:02
thebigham=(10:02
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hexstarsulo: are you racist?!10:03
Sulo_SeppaNo10:03
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allan789help 4 ubunto linux setup10:03
hexstarwhere even black people can get jobs ..10:03
sauvinI've had no trouble with KDE reliability, but I HAVE had gnome give me fits.10:03
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togrSulo_Seppa, will knowing the relative numbers of gnome and kde users in this channel help you or anyone else get a job?10:03
jussi01allan789: whats the problem?10:03
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Myrttiplease folks, take the offtopic someplace else10:03
Sulo_Seppatogr: No, but we may face another terrorist attack10:03
magnetron!offtopic | Sulo_Seppa jerbull88 hexstar10:03
ubotuSulo_Seppa jerbull88 hexstar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:03
Myrttithis channel is for Ubuntu support10:03
sniff_MajorPayne: sniff_: Are you talking about the scripts that get run as your network comes up? <-- yes and how tu get normal back10:03
hexstarblacks aren't the terrorists, the iraqi's are10:03
allan789i have 2 computer10:04
Myrttihexstar: please.10:04
hexstarkk10:04
magnetron!ops | Sulo_Seppa hexstar10:04
ubotuSulo_Seppa hexstar: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok10:04
allan789? is how can i connect the 2 of them10:04
Myrttimagnetron: too early10:04
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allan789do i need server?10:04
togrSulo_Seppa, you are very confused10:04
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sniff_hexstar: switch are up10:04
jussi01!samba | allan78910:04
ubotuallan789: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:04
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MajorPaynesniff_: I am not sure.  Been a long time sinse I done that.  I was just wondering if that is what your question was about.10:05
AmaranthSulo_Seppa: #politics10:05
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hexstarkicking isn't nice :P10:05
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jussi01hexstar: well play by the rules then10:05
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hexstarkk sorry, I said I was sorry10:05
hexstarand then stopped10:05
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allan789no i mean ubunto to ubunto what is the proper installation to communicate my computer10:05
sauvinAllan, I'm on cable Internet, therefore cable modem. I bought a four-port router, and that's how I connect my computers.10:05
Sulo_SeppaIs awn in the repos?10:05
allan789i have 2 units10:05
hexstarallan789: install a nic, connect it to a hub or router10:05
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jussi01!info awn10:06
ubotuPackage awn does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:06
thebighamhow can i unlock locked files10:06
jerbull88allan, crossover cable10:06
hexstaryou can also use a crossover cable to connect them directly using two nics10:06
magnetronallan789: do you have network cards connected?10:06
jussi01Sulo_Seppa: I think it will be in gutsy10:06
MajorPayneallan789: Do you mean crossover?10:06
allan789i have router and hub10:06
hexstarbut then you have to manually assign ips10:06
MajorPayneallan789: Like internet connection sharing.10:06
MajorPayneallan789: Then do you mean how can you trasfer files?10:06
hexstarallan789: ok use router, take modem with cable and put in wan port, put others in other ports...and you're done10:07
toogodoolol10:07
jerbull88yay10:07
hexstarno need for a hub10:07
allan789k how can i share my files to another computer like in windows10:07
sauvinConfigure the computers for DHCP for maximum hands-off convenience.10:07
MajorPayneallan789: If you want to know how how to transfer files try this: scp filenameToSend user@host:/directory/to/put/file10:07
jerbull88samba10:07
jussi01thebigham: did you try the command i gave you earlier?10:08
hexstarallan789: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/30404010:08
sauvinSamba, I've heard isn't a no-brainer for configuring.10:08
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MajorPayneNFS can be easy.10:08
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jussi01!samba | allan78910:08
ubotuallan789: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:08
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MajorPayneDon't use samba unless you have Windows.10:08
jerbull88theres a youtube video that will walk you through setting up samba10:08
MajorPaynejerbull88: No need to use Samba if he has no Windows install.10:09
magnetronallan789: you don't need samba10:09
MajorPayneI would suggest just using ssh or NFS.10:09
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hexstaralan789: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Share_files_using_Samba10:09
allan789jussi01 can i talk to u private pls.10:09
MajorPaynehexstar: Don't need samba, no Windows install.10:09
kursedi am an extremely new user to ubuntu (never used linux or any other OS apart from windows before) and need answers to a few basic questions. Would it be possible for anyone of you to help me out?10:09
hexstaroh10:09
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MajorPayne!ask | kursed10:09
ubotukursed: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:09
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jussi01allan789: no, I dont do private, ask here so everyone can benefit10:09
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allan789k10:10
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sauvinKursed, it would be possible to ask.10:10
hexstarallan789: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/488010:10
kursedi wanted to know as to how can i log into my administrator account (/root)?10:10
allan789k this s wat im doing in my 2 computers10:10
hexstarok this is a test of the emergency broadcast system10:10
jerbull88imn not touching root again10:10
KaOS-bEathi all, when i booted my feisty this morning, it stopped after mountng the root disk and telling me there was no /sbin/init  :-(10:10
MajorPayne!sudo | kursed10:10
ubotukursed: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:10
magnetronallan789: right click a folder and choose "share". when it ask for "samba" or "nfs", chooose nfs10:10
jerbull88i got in trouble last time10:10
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KaOS-bEatI cannot even chroot into my old system10:10
allan789do i need setup or install my 1st units as server?10:10
KaOS-bEatbut the disk mounts fine10:11
hexstarkaos: sounds like you hosed your system10:11
KaOS-bEathextar: it does10:11
KaOS-bEatbut... can I fix it???10:11
hexstarbackup your home directories and config files and do a reinstall10:11
magnetronallan789: any ubuntu pc can act as server, no need for the server cd10:11
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KaOS-bEatok... you really think that's my only option10:11
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MajorPayneKaOS-bEat: It doesn't sound good.10:12
hexstarwell someone else might know of a way to replace the init script but I don't think that's easily doable10:12
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allan789so i setup my 2 units just like an ordinary setup10:12
hexstarinfact there probably is more then just the script that's broken10:12
jussi01allan789: yes10:12
KaOS-bEatcan't I just copy /sbin and /bin from an feisty install CD?10:12
magnetronKaOS-bEat: there are the fsck command, it may be able to repair the disk10:12
hexstarKaOS-bEat: you could try, no garuntees though10:13
KaOS-bEatmagnetron: I already did that, it just says CLEAN10:13
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KaOS-bEatwell, I'm downloading the iso right ow10:13
hexstarok, keep us updated :)10:13
magnetronKaOS-bEat: did you remove any files last time? as root?10:13
jerbull88:)10:13
KaOS-bEatit is great though that I can just pop in the dapper iso and ask for help on IRC!10:13
allan789magneton: in my another pc how can i browse the share folder10:14
KaOS-bEatmagnetron:  power outage10:14
hexstarI remember as a kid when my win 95 machine ran out of disk space...I deleted io.sys...XD10:14
KaOS-bEatso te disk was prolly not ok10:14
hexstarthat was fun :P10:14
jerbull88hahaha10:14
kursedthanks a lot for that link, how can i mount ISOs in ubunto? I've tried a couple of scripts but 1. my directory doesn't seem to have a scripts folder, 2. it doesnt let me copy scripts to bin folder saying that i do not enjoy sufficient privilidges10:14
KaOS-bEatwel I have 9Gb free space left, W95 would crash on that fact alone (too much free space)10:14
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MajorPaynekursed: Try ./scriptName10:15
hexstarkursed: http://steinsoft.net/index.php?site=Programming/Articles/linux-mountiso10:15
berent there is a x64 vista dvd on bittorent.com as a beta release. does it have any problems10:15
sauvinHexstar, I had a friend who'd bought and installed Stacker (bad old DOS days), and then went snooping around with Norton Commander, noticed a STACVOL.000 file that ate most of his disk, and deleted it. He had all KINDS of things to say about not being able to use his computer after that, none of it repeatable in polite company.10:15
hexstarberent: x64 linux support is not good10:15
hexstaruse x8610:15
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furballhello10:16
hexstarsauvin: LOL10:16
Slartberent: vista dvd?10:16
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furballexit10:16
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kursedthanks very much!10:16
berentSlart: yes . i just wanted to have dual boot for photoshop and things like that.10:16
hexstarI remember another 95 machine I had, I updated IE to something like 5 so the quick start icons in the left appeared...nothing opened anymore as explorer always faulted...10:16
hexstarkursed: np :)10:16
Slartberent: ah.. better ask some vista-people if it's any good then =)10:16
MajorPayneWhen I had Windows 95 I upgraded to Win 98 and borked my system.10:17
KaOS-bEatok, so backing up my homedir...10:17
berentSlart: don't get offensive .10:17
MajorPayneWasn't long after that I tried Linux.10:17
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hexstarhaha10:17
hexstardon't get me started on ME XD10:17
jerbull88NT10:17
hexstarmy god they must've literally copied verbatum nt code right into 98 code and compiled it10:18
Slartberent: I'm not.. people in here usually don't like vista very much.. you might get better answers with.. ahem.. a more "vista friendly" crowd10:18
jerbull88i hated my old nt10:18
hexstarnt and 2k are the best os's M$ ever made imo10:18
MajorPayne!windows10:18
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents10:18
magnetron!offtopic | jerbull88 hexstar10:18
hexstarxp is me reborn, except it's done right10:18
ubotujerbull88 hexstar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:18
kursedwhen i open the terminal , does it matter if the prompt is ~$ or ~#?10:18
berentSlart: I am on ubuntu itself .but how do i run photoshop on it?10:18
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hexstaroh oops...I went OT again sorry10:19
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MajorPaynekursed: # means you have root privilages.  $ means norml user.10:19
jerbull88!windows10:19
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents10:19
magnetronhexstar: you are pushing it10:19
kursedgot it!10:19
hexstarsorry10:19
jerbull88thats funny10:19
Slartberent: you can't.. not as far as I know.. I don't think gimp is a suitable replacement if you're going to use it in any advanced manner10:19
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magnetronhexstar: don't be sorry, just stop it10:19
hexstarok10:19
bullgard4/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko is not commented enough. Where is the function acpi_evaluate_object (line #146) defined?10:19
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ari_stressstrange...., linus hasn't tried debian: http://www.oneopensource.it/interview-linus-torvalds/10:20
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hexstarlol10:20
jerbull88why does my computer not physically power down after i go throught the shutdown process10:20
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Slartberent: there is a "make gimp look like photoshop"-patch.. but I think it's just superficial.. haven't tried it myself though so don't take my word for it10:20
jerbull88i hear the hdd turn off but the power light stays on10:21
hexstarjerbull: bios is probably too old10:21
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jerbull88i figured that10:21
hexstartry flashing a newer one10:21
jerbull88acpi10:21
rohanwhat is the name of hte program which is a GUI frontend to gconf ?10:21
jerbull88how do u flash the bios10:21
tarzeaujerbull88: using flashrom10:21
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magnetronrohan: gconf-editor10:21
rohanmagnetron: thanks :)10:21
jerbull88tarz, enlighten me10:21
hexstaryour pc maker usually provides those tools for you jerbull8810:21
tarzeaujerbull88: packages.debian.org/flashrom10:21
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rohanjerbull88: most pc manufacturers provide tools only for windows .. check it out10:22
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Ademanwhat's the name of the default image viewer in GNOME?10:22
Ademanlike the project name10:22
Jordan_Ujerbull88, Eye of Gnome I think10:22
hexstarwell, what it usually is is a flashing app and rom that runs in dos, just make a dos bootdisk and put the flash app and rom on the disk and go10:22
Slartjerbull88: I just updated my asus bios.. I had to get a freedos boot disk to do the upgrade from.. but it worked10:22
Jordan_UAdeman, , Eye of Gnome I think10:22
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hexstarthat's right10:22
Jordan_Ujerbull88, Sorry, wrong nick on that last comment10:23
AdemanJordan_U: thought so, but someone told me otherwise10:23
hexstar(slart)10:23
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Ademanwhoa, did someone ask the same question like right above me? lol10:23
jerbull88does it just read like a startup disk and flash from there10:23
hexstarwell it boots to the A:\> prompt and then you type in the name of the flash executable, press enter and follow the prompts10:23
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jerbull88keewl10:24
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Houdini_Userhello10:24
hexstaryep10:24
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hexstarso find out who made your pc, go to their website...go to the support section and look for the drivers it should be there10:24
Jordan_U!hi | Houdini_User10:24
ubotuHoudini_User: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!10:24
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kursedi am reading the link about getting root privildges but i just dont get it...isn't there like a simple command. entering which i can get root privilidges for a while?10:24
Slartswitch "made your pc" for "made your motherboard"10:24
Jordan_Ukursed, sudo10:24
kursedk10:25
hexstarwell you could do that, most pc makers update the bios with their own splash screen and such tho10:25
hexstarand then release the updates through their website10:25
Slartkursed: sudo will only ask for the password the first time... then you can use it without password for some period of time.. 5 minutes perhaps?10:25
hexstarIf you use the mobo's own bios you may void your warranty10:25
Jordan_Ukursed, Just use sudo <command> or for GUI apps gksudo <command> and they will run as root10:25
kursedok10:25
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Slarthexstar: ah.. true.. disregard the motherboard thing10:25
kursedlemme try it :)10:25
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hexstarAlthough the mobo makers bios usually is better because it isn't crippled10:25
hexstarbut still, it's safer to go with the pc makers releases10:26
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berenti have a 64 bit amd now and i have a generic and x86 versions of ubuntu . The generic runs properly but i want to know if x86 version runs also10:26
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orbisvicis!et10:26
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org10:26
hexstarx86 should run fine10:26
Houdini_Useranyone know if nero linux 3 will work with ubuntu?10:27
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jayde_drag0nrunning ubuntu feisty live cd can someone please help me re-install grub?10:27
hexstar64bit processors are x86 backwards compatible10:27
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Jordan_Uberent, You could try the liveCD, 64 bit can be hard if you use anything proprietary, either should work on your comp though10:27
Jordan_U!grub | jayde_drag0n10:27
ubotujayde_drag0n: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:27
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hexstar[:)10:28
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JoshHendoDoes anyone know how to speed up FTP upload speeds? I am using gFTP at the moment and the speeds are extremely slow.10:28
hexstaryou can't, your isp controls that10:28
berentJordan_U : do u mean 64 bit supports 32 bit version also?10:28
hexstarJoshHendo: you can check with your isp to see if they have a higher bandwidth package though10:29
Jordan_Uberent, I am not quite sure what you mean10:29
kursedok the command is working now but the issue of mouting iso still remains, when i enter the command given in the link provided to me above, it says; no such file or directory?10:29
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ExiledSoldierI just tried to use grub to choose between OS's on different HDD's for the first time and I got a 'diskette drive 0' error.  can anyone help me.10:29
sauvinI hear torrents are faster.10:29
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Jordan_Uberent, You can run 32 bit apps in 64 bit Ubuntu but it takes some work10:29
hexstarJoshHendo: see if you can get verizon fios, they offer the best upload speeds at very affordable prices10:29
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SlartJoshHendo: how bad is extremely low? 2kb/s? worse?10:30
JoshHendoI am able to upload fine under Windows though, and anything else that requires uploading is fine10:30
hexstarkursed: I assume you're typing in the /mnt part exactly as the site says?10:30
jayde_drag0ni'm following the directions on ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351    and its not working for me...  the first step gave me an error.. the second step i get to the part of  sudo mount -t /dev/sda6 /mnt/root.... but sda6 is incorrect and i don't know what ii'm supposed to put there per my system10:30
kursedyep10:30
hexstaryou need to make the dir first10:30
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hexstarmkdir /dir/dir10:30
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JoshHendoSlart, worse, if it does upload a file, it will have "Transfer Stalled" for ages10:30
berentJordan_U : how do i know if i am running 32 bit of ubuntu or 64 bit since i am on generic10:30
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SlartJoshHendo: doesn't sound like a ISP problem.. probably something else10:30
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Jordan_Uberent, the generic kernel is 32 bit10:31
KaOS-bEatberent: , I did that (32bit apps on my 64bit ubuntu, you need dchroot, and some scripts, and lots of hd-space, because you need to install 32bit libs as well10:31
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JoshHendoI have heard that an encrypted wireless connection slows it down, which I do have, is that true?10:31
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hexstarJoshHendo: that won't happen unless your computer is ancient10:31
JoshHendook10:31
hexstare.g. 75mhz or slower10:31
levander`JoshHendo: the encrypted file might be a little bigger than the unencrypted file10:31
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KaOS-bEatwell about to leave reboot and reinstall bye all10:32
berentJordan_U: is it? then it has some extensions to work as 64 bit. not a hardcore 64 kernel?10:32
hexstarok later KaOS-bEat10:32
JoshHendoOk10:32
kursedgot it. hex can you tell me what does the following error mean? E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured10:32
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JoshHendoSame problem as on this thread, though it doesn't seem to have a solution, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41816510:32
BamBami'm looking for the answers to a study book called: wirelss communications & networks --- by william stallings second edition10:32
BamBamdoes anyone know where can i find it ?10:32
hexstarkursed: you got that when doing the mount command?10:32
berentKaOS:bEat: which version are you running. just tell me what u get when u do uname -r10:32
kursednope, when installing a package10:32
ExiledSoldierI just tried to use grub to choose between OS's on different HDD's for the first time and I got a 'diskette drive 0' error.  anyone know whats wrong?10:32
levanderBamBam: you tried Amazon?  Abebooks?10:32
Jordan_Uberent, No there is a 32 bit and 64 bit version of Ubuntu, you are running the 32 bit version, the 64 bit version uses a 64 bit kernel and programs10:32
levanderBamBam: Contact the publisher.10:32
kursedrather every package that i install i am getting this error.10:32
hexstaroh...try doing a apt-get install system-config-cluster and see if that package installs ok and then try again kursed10:33
kursedthe install is just fine10:33
kursedthe program works10:33
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kursedbut it does give me this error.10:33
BamBamlevander: the publisher only gives it to lecturers10:33
levanderExiledSoldier: sounds like grub didn't recognize the disk's boot image it was supposed to load10:33
kursedat the time of installation10:33
levanderBamBam: tell him you're a lecturer10:33
Jordan_Ukursed, Can you pastebin the error it gives?10:33
hexstaryeah, do a apt-get install system-config-cluster and see if that installs ok10:33
levanderBamBam: it's called social engineering10:33
BamBamlevander: but there must be copies of it on the net10:33
Houdini_Usersomeone said...to run windows app in ubuntu (like world of warcraft)...I need Wine...can anyone point me in the right direction for that?10:33
BamBamlevander: :)10:33
ExiledSoldierlevander: how can I fix it?10:33
kursedE: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 310:33
kursedE: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured10:33
kursedE: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured10:33
berentJordan_U: yes .that's why the speed of booting kernel hasn't changed even when my ram and processor has gone 4 times higher10:34
levanderBamBam: check piratesbay.org and emule (amule under Linux)10:34
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Jordan_U!appdb | Houdini_User10:34
ubotuHoudini_User: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org10:34
Houdini_Usercool..thanks10:34
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hexstarkursed...hmm not sure10:34
BamBamlevander: ok 10x , just thougth it may be easier to check here first10:34
hexstarnever encountered that before10:34
levanderExiledSoldier: grub is one of those pains that people only look into once in a while, think you need to read the docs, easiest docs would probably be a step-by-step re-installing on Ubuntu.  Check wiki.ubuntu.com.10:34
hexstarsorry10:34
kursednp10:34
kursed:D10:34
kursedthanks a lot for the help though10:35
Jordan_Uberent, I don't think that the reason for that is that you aren't using 64 bit, more likely the bottleneck at boot is IO10:35
hexstarkursed: np10:35
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Houdini_Useris wine something difficult to configure?10:35
hexstarkursed: try apt-get -f10:35
berentJordan_U: IO ? what IO when you boot?10:36
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hexstaroops I meant apt-get install -f10:36
Jordan_UHoudini_User, It depends, if the application you are trying to use works then there is no config needed, if not it can require a little or a lot of hacking depending10:36
ExiledSoldierlevander: I didn't have my Windows HDD plugged in when I installed Ubuntu, could this be the problem?10:36
amainaok just like this how can find the share folder10:36
jayde_drag0nlook really... not helping me i don't knwo what i'm doing.. and what i'm typing is obviously not working.. its just giving me an informational output10:37
levanderExiledSoldier: Do you get that disk error after you select to boot Windows, or before any option is given on what to boot?10:37
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amainamy os is ubunto10:37
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berkeswhat tool or app is used to create the fstab file (and associcated hibernate storage places etc) on install of kubuntu?10:37
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amainathen my client is ubunto to10:37
levanderExiledSoldier: is your computer recognizing both hard drives?  (can check in the BIOS)10:37
hexstar*ubuntu10:37
hexstarexiledsoldier: check hd jumpers10:37
kursedReading package lists... Done10:37
kursedBuilding dependency tree10:37
kursedReading state information... Done10:37
kursed0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.10:37
kursed3 not fully installed or removed.10:37
kursedE: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:37
kursedE: Unable to lock the download directory10:37
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Jordan_U!paste | kursed10:37
ubotukursed: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:37
hexstaryou have to do su before10:37
levanderberkes: fstab is pretty simple, they probably just have a very quickie app that generates it10:37
amainahelp plesase10:38
hexstarsu apt-get install -f10:38
ExiledSoldierlevander: before grub loads.  I'll check BIOS to see if it recognizes.10:38
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kursedsorry!10:38
Houdini_Usersometimes...this chat is a little too fast to keep up with :)10:38
berent!pastebin > kursed10:38
Jordan_Ukursed, Close synaptic10:38
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hexstarkursed: su apt-get install -f10:38
levanderkursed: that means you're doing something with apt somewhere else, you can't access the apt repositories twice at the same time10:38
Jordan_Uhexstar, Ubuntu uses sudo10:38
berkeslevander: it is *supposed* to be simple, yes. But these friggin UUIDs make it a hell to fix manually :)10:38
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amainahelp10:38
berentJordan_U: IO ? what IO when you boot?10:38
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levanderhexstar: Why did you start using su instead of sudo?10:38
amainai am new in ubunto10:38
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Jordan_Uberent, Reading from the drive10:39
VSpikeWhat mechanism provides a drop down history of text in fields in firefox?  Is that part of firefox, or part of gnome?10:39
berkessomehow the last changes in (k)ubuntu switched between sda and hda (No hardware changed!)10:39
amainamy problem is how can i share my files10:39
levanderberent: vol_id is the command that tells you the UUID of a drive10:39
hexstarI've always used su, sudo is fine too though either works10:39
ExiledSoldierhexstar: jumpers was what I thought, unfortunately I can't see them and need to wait till tomorrow to remove the HDD.10:39
amainawhat im gonna do ples. help10:39
hexstarusually10:39
VSpikeAnd more importantly, how do i clear it or disable it10:39
Jordan_U!uuid | berkes10:39
ubotuberkes: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)10:39
hexstarExiledSoldier: ah10:39
amainai have 2 units10:39
jayde_drag0nplease i've been at this for over 30 hrs now.. with people ignoring me everytime i tell them.. sorry i don't understand you... can someone please just help me?? i know that this is simple to you.. but to me i'm ready to either cry or throw it out the window10:39
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amainad os of them is ubunto with gui10:39
berentJordan_U:  so you mean i have to upgrade hard disk!10:39
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hexstarlol...jayde_drag0n if you don't want it just mail it to me :D10:40
amainahey help me pls.10:40
BaneHello I am new to ubuntu, I have Windows XP installed on C: and all the rest of my files installed on D:   how can I install ubuntu without formatting a new partition?10:40
berkesJordan_U: I know the rationale. Have followed all this closely. Still. All I need is a way to easily fix both my ubuntu systems so that they have swap and hibernate when booting :)10:40
berentlevander : for what is that required?10:40
Jordan_Uberent, Why is boot speed so important, you should hardly ever need to reboot10:40
hexstarbane: you'll need to use something like partition magic to make freespace for ubuntu10:40
jayde_drag0nhexsar... i am to take that as... no you'd rather laugh at me than just help me reinstall grub?10:40
VSpikejayde_drag0n: what's the quesiton?10:40
levanderberent: To tell fstab about drives you need the UUID's.  But, I'd really read that link ubotu put out there if I were you.10:40
berentJordan_U:  for my own knowledge10:40
Jordan_Uberkes, You don't have to use UUID's, you can configure it manually with /dev/whatever10:40
jayde_drag0nVspike... i just need to reinstall grub10:40
kursed!ipastebin10:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ipastebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:41
jayde_drag0nand i don't understand these commands to figure out what to type where10:41
hexstarjayde_drag0n: no, not laughing at you just trying to have some fun...get rid of the stress :)10:41
berkesJordan_U: thats what I did. Being stubborn and all.10:41
kursed!paste10:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:41
VSpikejayde_drag0n: reinstall in what sense... what is the problem?10:41
berkeshowever, ubuntu would break my disks on upgrade then.10:41
berentlevander: i think you were answering berkes . not me10:41
Banehexstar: does partition magic come with magic iso? i know ive seen it somewhere before10:41
jayde_drag0ni'm sorry hexsar.. i really am about to cry i'm so frustrated... irts really none of you guyss fault... i'm just upset10:41
Flanneljayde_drag0n: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0  gives you (complete) step by step instructions10:41
levanderberkes: see my last answer to berent10:41
hexstarno, it's a seperate product10:41
jayde_drag0nflannel10:41
Flanneljayde_drag0n: unlike the hit and miss of the forums10:41
jayde_drag0ni know.. i'm rthere10:41
hexstarbane: no it's a seperate product10:41
Flanneljayde_drag0n: do you have a specific question then?  What are you having trouble figuring out?10:42
jayde_drag0nbut i domn'?t know wjhat hda hdf hdg to type!!!10:42
levanderjayde_drag0n: if you're that upset, forget about it, take a break, it's too detailed of work to do when you're ticked10:42
Banethanks hexstar10:42
jayde_drag0n\iu can;'t fighure it out\10:42
berkeslevander: is blkid used to create the data in fstab on install?10:42
Jordan_Ujayde_drag0n, Have you tried following the instructions on the wiki?10:42
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hexstarbane: np10:42
Banewhen i update drivers on ubuntu, and im booting from the cd.. it doesnt save it does it10:42
jayde_drag0ni am following the instructions10:42
levanderberkes: I haven't seen the code, but I'd bet it is.10:42
jayde_drag0nbut i can't figure out my output to know which ... hda.. hdg.. hdf.. hd110:42
jayde_drag0nto type10:42
Flanneljayde_drag0n: The first instruction you see on that page explains/walks you through determining it.10:42
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levanderberkes: Oh, not all the data probably.  But, it's probably used as part of the data gathering process.10:42
jayde_drag0ni got it wrong10:43
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Jordan_UBane, No, but you can chroot into your system if you need to update it from the liveCD10:43
kursedhex - su didn't work so had to use sudo... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30417/10:43
jayde_drag0ni'm obviously that stupid.. i thought it was hda10:43
jayde_drag0nbut that says ntfs10:43
hexstarjayde_drag0n: you can use pdisk10:43
jayde_drag0nnot my linux install10:43
Flanneljayde_drag0n: Right.  Which one is ext3?10:43
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hexstaror kfredisk10:43
berkeslevander: yea. investigating this now. I would loooove some sort of apt-get reinstall fstab or so10:43
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Jordan_Ujayde_drag0n, The instructions on the wiki tell you how to find what (hd,X) you need10:43
jayde_drag0nokay its being laggy gimme a minute to read10:43
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berentJordan_U:  for my own knowledge10:43
Banewell i try to go to desktop effects, and it says update nvidia driver.. then i restart and it says it again..  i just assumed it didnt save it, is that correct?10:44
levanderberkes: it's not a complicated file, it's pretty basic as far as UNIX config files go10:44
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FlannelBane: restart X, (ctrl-alt-backspace) not the whole system10:44
berkeslevander: yea. however, the issue is mainly the associated hibernate and wakeup settings.10:44
jayde_drag0nwhats the ubuntu paste thingy i'll paste what i'm looking at10:44
Flannel!paste | jayde_drag0n10:44
ubotujayde_drag0n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:44
hexstarjayde_drag0n: pastebin.com10:44
Banethanks flannel10:44
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levanderberkes: There are lots of problems with power management in Linux.  I just turned it off and said screw it.  Good luck if you decide to brave that.10:45
thebighami have just reinstalled beryl and along with emerald, but for some reason when i click on a theme on emerald, it doesnt work.10:45
thebighamcan anyone help?10:45
Ayabara!bluetooth10:45
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup10:45
Jordan_UBane, Note that if you run the installer from the LiveCD while using the nvidia drivers it won't configure X correctly on the install10:45
levanderberkes: I'd be doing some bug searches on bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu to get that working10:45
hexstarthebigham: I never got themes to work either :(10:45
thebighami have asked this question on beryl and the ubuntu-effects channel, but noone would help =(10:45
berkeslevander: well, it works fine for me. (IBM to the maxxx) but the problem was fsked UUIDs during hte last two upgrades.10:45
Jordan_Uthebigham, Try reloading emerald?10:46
amainahey wats up here10:46
levanderberkes: Cool, if it's worked on your hardware before, you've got much better chance than most.10:46
thebighami think i might have missed something10:46
hexstarnothing much amaina, just some geeks :)10:46
amaina? s d procedure by copying files10:46
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berkesafter that I manually added my swap /dev/sda5 to several files. But I't prefer to bring this back in step w. ubuntus uuids10:46
thebighamcause the samething happens at the first time, and someone at ubuntu-effects helped me out10:46
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hexstaramaina: man cp10:46
thebighambut he wasnt there this time =(10:46
Flannel!uuid | berkes10:46
ubotuberkes: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)10:47
amainaman cp wats that? im new in ubunto10:47
Oooopsubotu: bot?10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
Jordan_UOooops, Yes10:47
berkesFlannel: thanks, already got that from levander :910:47
Oooopsubotu: google bot10:47
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
hexstaramaina: it tells you how to use cp which is the command used to copy files10:47
amainahexstar ilove u pls. help10:47
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Oooopsubotu: help cp10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help cp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
Oooopsubotu: weather10:48
berkesobuto should learn to not tell the same factoid twice to one user.10:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about weather - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:48
Flannel!botabuse | Oooops10:48
ubotuOooops: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...10:48
Jordan_U!msgthebot ?10:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msgthebot ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:48
Ayabarawhat can I use to push files via bluetooth to my cellphone?10:48
Oooopshow to operate on this bot? Flannel10:48
hexstar!dancewithbot10:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dancewithbot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:48
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berkesOooops: could you please message the bot in private. this is annoying10:48
berenthow do we mount an iso with an emulator ?10:48
FlannelOooops: maybe you should check out the webpage it's giving you.  And take it to #ubuntu-bots10:48
berentiso10:48
Oooopsoo10:48
berent!iso10:48
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.10:48
Oooopsok10:49
levanderWhat are those funny A char's in ubotu's output?  Those are annoying.10:49
amainaburay nindo10:49
Jordan_Ulevander, What do you mean?10:49
amainalapa baga ang ubunto10:49
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amainafuck u10:50
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kurse1hex - how can i copy files from home folder to /bin ?10:50
hexstarwhat is amaina saying?10:50
kurse1/name kursed10:50
levanderJordan_U: Look at the werid char in ubotu's output just before "sudo mount".10:50
hexstaramaina I can't fuck you from my computer, the intenet can't do that yet sorry10:50
Flannel!sudo | kurse110:50
ubotukurse1: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:50
Jordan_Ukurse1, /nick10:50
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bainalo all .. is there a way to bootstrap configs for packages during installation or afterwards .. ?10:50
levanderbain: apt does that automatically10:51
levanderyou don't have to do it yourself10:51
amainaoh sory10:51
Oooopsif anyone here play ET?10:51
amainai mean fuck me im open whahahahah10:51
bainlevander: how ?10:51
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berentamaina : what do you want exactly10:51
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Oooopsif anyone know whosgaming server10:51
MajorPayne!ohmy | Amaranth10:51
ubotuAmaranth: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:51
hexstaramaina: uh....lol?10:51
Flannellevander: unicode, you apparently aren't UTF enabled currently10:51
AmaranthMajorPayne: *cough*10:52
levanderbain: there are scripts called postinst and preinst included in the debs that are installed, apt just runs those10:52
berenthexstar was almost ready10:52
hexstarlol10:52
levanderFlannel: nope, I'm using Emacs.  This is only channel where people are assuming you've got Unicode.10:52
Oooopsif anyone know whosgaming server or ET or idsoft?10:52
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MajorPayneAmaranth: Huh?10:52
bainlevander: yes I know that .. but for instance .. postfix .. I need to do the install and setup the server as sattilite with settings in a script .. witghout user input ...10:52
PriceChildOooops, #ubuntu-offtopic please10:52
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hexstarmaybe she likes you MajorPayne :)10:52
kurse1i can't seem to use the direct copy command (even with sudo)... so .... what should i be doing?10:52
PriceChildMajorPayne, your tab completion went wrong10:53
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Oooopssomething about ubuntu. PriceChild10:53
togrMajorPayne, you asked Amaranth to be family friendly.  I think you meant amaina10:53
levanderbain: Look at the Ubuntu "alternate" install CD.  I think that's what you're looking for.  Not sure.10:53
thebighamcan someone please help me get emerald theme working please10:53
Jordan_Ukurse1, What is the exact command you are running and what is the error?10:53
hexstarwhat are you trying to copy kurse1?10:53
MajorPaynePriceChild: Ohh, Amaranth: yea, sorry, lol.10:53
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levanderbain: Oh wait, you're not setting up the whole server, just a package.10:53
kurse1i want to copy two scripts from my home folder to a root folder /scripts10:53
kurse1i made the folder10:54
bainlancetw: yes ...10:54
hexstarok, what does it say when you try the cp?10:54
berentwhy doen't amd give linux drivers for it's card?10:54
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kurse1now i need to transfer the scripts there10:54
levanderbain: Do you want to keep the configuration of the whole machines similar, or just package by package?10:54
Oooopsif anyone know whosgaming server or ET or idsoft?  some trouble here under ubuntu.10:54
levanderOooops: just ask10:54
zenumhey, does anyone here have an nvidia 8500 or 8600 graphics card? I am thinking of getting one and just want to know if I can expect to get full 3d support with it in ubuntu?10:54
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bainlancetw: I need to setup some packages with preset settings .. rather then asking for user input when apt-get installs them ..10:54
amonkeyfirefox locks up on me (about half of hte time) when i close a tab that has flash on it, what direction should i look in to find out why?10:54
FlannelOooops: you might check the forums (ubuntuforums.org) there's a lot of stuff on ET10:54
Oooopsbut seems no one knows.10:54
zenumOr is there somewhere on the net which has a list of currently supported graphic cards?10:54
kurse1manually (graphically!) it says that i dont enjoy sufficient priviliges so i wanted to know the exact command to transfer files from one folder to another10:54
hexstarkurse1: ok whatdoes it say when you try the cp operation?10:55
Oooopsok.10:55
hexstaroh10:55
levanderamonkey: Do you have flash installed?10:55
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levanderamonkey: I meant Flash 9 installed?10:55
hexstartry "su cp /soruce /dest"10:55
kurse1hex  - i dont know the copy command in linux... i guess that's my issue :)10:55
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Jordan_Uzenum, Nvidia provides great drivers ( though intel's are better... )10:55
kurse1ok10:55
hexstarcp is the command to copy10:55
amonkeylevander, Shockwave Flash 9.0 r3110:55
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Jordan_U!bash | kurse110:55
ubotukurse1: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:55
levanderamonkey: From the Ubuntu repositories you installed that one?10:55
berentwhy doen't amd give linux drivers for it's inbuilt nvidia card?10:55
bainlevander : I need to setup some packages with preset settings .. rather then asking for user input when apt-get installs them ..10:56
hexstarberent: why not try nvidia's drivers?10:56
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levanderberent: Because they don't feel like they'll make enough money doing that.10:56
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Jordan_Ukurse1, That should be a good guide if you want to learn more about how to use the terminal10:56
amonkeylevander, it's from the repos yeah10:56
zenumJordan_U: so pretty much any nvidia card should work fine with propriety drivers?10:56
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KaOS-bEathi all, overwrinting /bin/ sbin didn't work... -> reinstalling10:56
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hexstarI would assume so zenum10:56
reed026I have lost sound in ubuntu, I tried turning up the mic from alsamixer. That didn't work. Then I tried the System -> preferences -> sound to correct that problem, and it did not work neither.10:56
levanderbain: I don't know of a way to do that.  Why don't you try asking in #debian.  It's less of a basic end-user community in there.10:56
Jordan_Uzenum, AFIK yes10:56
PriceChildzenum, 8***'s won't work well with the drivers in ubuntu10:56
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yinghao_hi10:56
kurse1ok i'll read more into it, thanks for the help folks10:57
kurse1thanks alot!10:57
levanderbain: Don't tell them you're using Ubuntu.10:57
PriceChildzenum, but will if you get the drivers from nvidia itself10:57
hexstarkurse1: np, glad to help :)10:57
kurse1yep, the command worked as well :)10:57
zenumExcellent :) I don't mind getting my hands dirty, as long as the end result includes pretty 3d shapes :)10:57
hexstarglad to her that :)10:57
hexstarkurse110:57
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hexstar*hear10:57
hexstarzenum: lol...never! All you'll ever get are blocky figures! :P10:58
Jordan_Ubain, They really don't like Ubuntu users asking questions in #debian, I don't know how good that advice is...10:58
yinghao_can is ask you guys something?10:58
hexstaryes10:58
yinghao_is=i10:58
bainlevander: thanks10:58
levanderJordan_U: what they don't know won't hurt them10:58
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berentlevander hexstar : anyways our ubuntu restricted drivers have  got it running . but it's restricted. i don't know why . all these mobos processors and graphic cards always have a deal with windows . well is there any linux oriented vendors.10:58
yinghao_i was wondering what's the best way to get latex up and running with ubuntu10:58
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hexstarapt-get install latex10:58
yinghao_deosnt work10:59
levanderJordan_U: It would be different if he weren't asking the type of questions they talk about all the time.10:59
Jordan_Ulevander, But if they ask for output...10:59
amonkeylevander, any idea?10:59
hexstaryinghao_: paste output to pastebin.com please10:59
yinghao_and i also like to get i working including a lot of latex packages10:59
levanderJordan_U: If they find out, they find out, it's not a big deal getting caught.  They may bitch, they may not.10:59
yinghao_hextar: how?10:59
yeniklasorHi. How can I open ubuntu server edition's desktop?10:59
hexstar!paste | yinghao_10:59
ubotuyinghao_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:59
Weissyinghao_: apt-cache search tetex and install some of those packages (can't remember which ones you need)10:59
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hexstarI think apt-get install tetex* might work too11:00
magnetronyinghao_: install texmaker or winefish11:00
sauvinBerent, you are dealing with one of the few downsides of using Linux: hardware support can lag quite a bit behind Windows because most major manufacturers either fear giving away proprietary information or not garnering enough bottom-line profits.11:00
yinghao_ok11:00
reed026yeniklasor: Ubuntu Server does not have a GUI desktop11:00
hexstarlol11:00
yinghao_it seems i already have tetex11:00
hexstarthat's good :)11:01
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reed026You will need to install Xfce, GNOME or KDE11:01
berentsauvin : but we are paying the same money right?11:01
yinghao_but wich packages do i need to get it running11:01
hexstarI've gotta head to bed, later guys.11:01
corevettehow do you find out the command to your router....to edit a firewall11:01
sauvinNo. The major manufacturers would indeed appear to be in bed with MS.11:01
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berenthexstar : to meet amaina :-))11:01
hexstarcorevette: you can't unless your router can support ssh11:02
hexstarlater11:02
yinghao_i think tetex extra and tetex base?11:02
berentsauvin : he he11:02
magnetroncorevette: usually it's http://192.168.1.1/ or http://192.168.0.1/11:02
corevettebut on windows11:02
yeniklasorreed026 : sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop ?11:02
corevetteyou can do ipconfig11:02
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corevettewhy cant you do somehting like that on linux11:02
sauvinIt may amuse you somewhat to learn that Vista apparently has horrendous hardware compatibility problems :D11:02
Thursleycorevette, ifconfig11:02
corevettewhere does it say the router in ifconfig?11:02
Thursleycorevette, aah, good point. Try 192.168.1.1 or 10.0.0.111:03
berentsauvin : it is obvious if they try overdoing profits. they are going to get ripped off left and right.11:03
PriceChildcorevette, from: Bcast:<ip here>11:03
PriceChildcorevette, on the interface you're using11:03
sauvinBerent, no, it isn't.11:03
PriceChildoh wait11:04
PriceChildno11:04
sauvinHow do you rip off a graphics card?11:04
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berentsauvin : i was talking about windows vista11:04
magnetroncorevette: it's called route11:04
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TarsinionHi all ... ive just installed beryl and everything is working perfectly. Now i would like to change the theme but i can not start emerald via console: root@richard-laptop:/home/richard# emerald11:04
Tarsinionemerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"11:04
sauvinOh, THAT. If its rep is at all deserved, it simply won't be popular for quite a while.11:04
magnetroncorevette: type route in a terminal11:04
TarsinionAny Idear ?11:04
PriceChildTarsinion, #ubuntu-effects please11:05
Tarsinion:PrinceChild sorry! .. :-)11:05
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berentsauvin : i changed proc mobo and ubuntu generic got everything running in seconds. i had to reconfigure vga and it was done.11:06
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tuna-fishWhat was the bash command that told what kind of kernel is running?11:06
sauvinCongratulations. Do the same for Vista, please.11:06
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magnetrontuna-fish: lsb_release -a11:06
orbisvicis!find sauerbraten11:06
PriceChildtuna-fish, uname -r11:06
HEP85Tarsinion: I think you shouldn't run it as root. Furthermore use --replace option, in case there is already a decorator running11:06
ubotuPackage/file sauerbraten does not exist in feisty11:07
bullgard4/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko is not commented enough. Where is the function acpi_evaluate_object (line #146) defined?11:07
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PriceChildtuna-fish, uname -a gives more actually...11:07
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TarsinionHEP85: let me try, thanks!11:07
tuna-fishThanks11:07
berentsauvin : but i don't want to buy vista for so much money. it simply doesn't deserve11:07
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sauvinAnd so you deal with linux' lagging hardware support, as do I. Is it worth it? I think so. YMMV.11:08
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magnetron!support11:08
ubotuthe official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org11:08
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sauvinRight now I'm busy downloading what would be several tens of thousands of dollars' worth of software from a site no DoJ weenie can ever shut down because none of it is commercial.11:09
magnetron!piracy11:09
ubotupiracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o11:09
berentsauvin : what is that? pm me . he he11:10
sauvinIt's not piracy. I'm grabbing it from synaptics package manager.11:10
sauvinNo special repositories.11:10
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magnetronsauvin: nice11:10
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berentmagnetron : are you a capitalist?11:10
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magnetron!o4o | berent11:11
ubotuberent: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.11:11
PanicI want to do some C programming on Ubuntu 7.04 with gcc, but it seems like the libraries are missing like stdio.h. Anyone know what I should do??11:11
orbisvicis!info sauerbraten11:11
ubotuPackage sauerbraten does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas11:11
Catoptromancymmm11:11
Houdini_Userwhat is a good torrent client...to run in ubuntu?  im very comfortable with utorrent under windows11:11
orbisvicisexplain : http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/games/sauerbraten11:11
Catoptromancy!openarena11:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openarena - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:11
orbisvicisoh, gutsy11:11
Wiseguyhey guys, has anyone ever used ViaVoice?11:11
magnetronHoudini_User: deluge11:11
orbisvicis!et11:11
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org11:11
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magnetron!deluge | Houdini_User11:11
ubotuHoudini_User: deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.11:11
sauvinPanic, in a terminal window, do this: gcc -dumpver11:11
Catoptromancyvery cool game in synaptic or add/remove11:11
Houdini_Usercool..thanks  magnetron11:12
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TarsinionHEP85: thanks thats working .. but i'm not sure why it is working ;-)11:12
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berentmagentron : capitalism is related to software licensing. that's why i asked.11:12
PriceChildberent, You are offtopic for this channel. Please stop.11:12
berentok11:12
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Panicit says "gcc: no input files"11:13
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elTigreHi11:13
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elTigreI'd like to have 3D acceleration on my external monitor that I have connected to a laptop (i810)11:14
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reed026wow I figured out my sound problem. I'm so dumb. hahaha. I had it muted. Had to add volume control to my panel and unmute it :D11:14
Panicit is gcc 4.1, when I write --help11:14
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marmerhy11:15
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elTigreso far I haven't succeeded.... I set the resolution to 16 bit (although I have no way to figure out if it really is 16 bit)11:15
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sauvinPanic, if you get that far, you have gcc installed, and therefore you DO have stdio.h.11:15
Panicohh11:15
marmerin a terminal how can I see if i'm using ALSA or other. please11:15
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TarsinionHEP85: okay, you helped me a lot futher ... thanks and cu !11:16
Panicso how come when I do a "hallo world" program the compiler complains about stdio.h unknown?11:16
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magnetronPanic: did you install the package build-essential?11:17
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marmer  ?11:17
RELOOMG11:17
PanicI will check11:17
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bullgard4After a cold boot Ubuntu 7.04 will display my OO.o Database not on workspace 4 but on workspace 1 although I have stored the session with Base on workspace 4. Another Ubuntu 7.04 computer does not make this error but its Ubuntu is no upgrade from 6.10.11:18
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RELOFUCK FUCK FUCK why cant this program WORK?11:20
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PriceChild!ohmy | RELO11:21
ubotuRELO: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:21
IntuitiveNippleFeisty 32-bit & gnome: after suspend or hibernate, many times there is no keyboard input to unlock gnome-screensaver, but there is if I switch to a new session, or switch to a terminal... any ideas how to solve it?11:21
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Jordan_U_IntuitiveNipple, Do you have mouse input?11:23
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IntuitiveNippleJordan_U: Yes11:23
IntuitiveNippleI've checked a few launchpad bugs but none of them address this issue, it seems11:24
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IntuitiveNippleIts intermittent too - about 7 times out of 10 it does this, the others, it works fine. So far the only work-around is to disable screen-locking on resume11:24
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ubutomhi. i have a second x-server for playing videos, etc on my tv. xinerama is activated. can someone point me to the syntax i have to use to start a program on the second x-server, without dragging it over?11:25
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NetJackalHi all11:27
gordonjcphow do I find what package provides a particular file?11:27
magnetronubutom: some apps accept the -display option11:27
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ubutomty magnetron11:28
ubutomwill look into that :)11:28
kagemaroAnyone - I'm using an Intel HDA chipset (Realtek, Toshiba laptop) and the sound is really quiet - I have the newest ALSA driver and have set the type to intel-snd-hda; model to toshiba. PCM is on 100% in alsa mix, physical volume is 100% and volume on my program is 100%. I can't change the master volume (it just comes up at 00 on alsamix). The sound is PLAYING but less than 20% of the volume I get on Windows.11:28
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gsuvegi cant install ispconfig to ubuntu, somone installed it ?11:29
kursedhey again, i am back with a new issue :)11:30
marmer    how can I turn off consoles tt3 tt4 tt5, in inittab11:30
marmer?11:30
kursedi've just added a usb hdd to my computer and i am not being allowed to write on it, citing insufficient privelidges ...11:30
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stefg!upstart | marmer, no inittab any more11:31
ubotumarmer, no inittab any more: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/11:31
kursedi can read from the hdd, but can't write on it, how can i correct that?11:31
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Jordan_Ukagemaro, Not sure if this will lead to any useful info but how load is it when you run this ( *warning could be very loud* ): cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp11:31
marmer!upstart11:31
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/11:31
sauvinKursed, I can't remember precisely how to do that just now; I used to edit fstab, but that may be a mistake in modern flavours of linux :\11:32
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marmerthank11:32
kursedsauvin, ah ok - it's just that i am newbie, never have used an OS other than Windows.11:32
kursedso i am having a hard time setting it up :)11:32
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kagemaro /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy, Jordan_U11:33
Jordan_Ukagemaro, ?11:33
sauvinThe command you want to look at is mount. At a terminal window, do an "info mount" (without the quotes)11:33
Jordan_Ukagemaro, Close any programs that are playing anything11:33
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kismethttp://86.97.146.113:3389/phpsysinfo/ < could someone tell if that memory usage is normal11:34
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kagemaroJordan_U: Still the same message11:34
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Jordan_Ukagemaro, Basically what we are doing is sending a random stream of bits directly to your sound card, this won't work if anything else is trying to use it11:35
kursedsauvin, using the mount command with my hdd , it gives me the following error, can't find data2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab11:35
kursedcan't find data2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab11:35
HHP2KHey guys, I've got a little problem: the Bless Hex Editor checks for gmcs on ./confgure and says I don't have it. I installed mono, which is what I thought that was, but no luck. Anyone know what to do?11:35
majorjrkI got this digital cam, can copy every execept 2 movies at 20 and 60mb, everything else goes down, is this probably a limitation of my cam, or usb or something else wrong ?11:35
stefgkismet: see the value for Cache: 69% . this is healthy, the kernel takes your ram to good use11:35
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kismetstefg, okay thankyou :)11:36
kismetits just scary seeing 98% being used :/11:36
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marmerwhich is command line for upstart?11:36
jayde_drag0nokay i completely froze11:36
kagemaroJordan_U, nothing else is using the sound card11:36
jayde_drag0nand finally after cleaning the disk.. now my computer is responsive11:36
IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: What is the output from the command: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 | grep 'Default Amp-Out'11:36
stefgkismet: /unused/ ram is wasted ram :-) so the kernel is employing it for something useful11:36
jayde_drag0ncan someone please paste the link to the ububtu paste thingy again?11:37
CheesyMonkey!paste | jayde_drag0n11:37
ubotujayde_drag0n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:37
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Jordan_Ukagemaro, Something is, whether it is making sounds currently or not11:37
jayde_drag0ni will  thanks i'll be back in a minute11:37
marmerdo you know11:37
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HHP2KHey guys, I've got a little problem: the Bless Hex Editor checks for gmcs on ./confgure and says I don't have it. I installed mono, which is what I thought that was, but no luck. Anyone know what to do?11:38
kagemaroIntuitiveNipple: Default Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=111:38
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IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: haha! Houston, you have a problem :p11:38
HEP85kagemaro: type "fuser /dev/dsp" and you will be shown what is using the sound card11:39
kagemaroIntuitiveNipple: I don't understand how it can be muted, but the sound still plays?11:39
kagemaroHEP85 - fuser /dev/dsp returns nothing11:39
IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: It isn't, thats the capability, but, all those zero's mean the default amp-out is the *wrong* one11:39
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runescaperhi11:39
IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: So, we need to work out which is the correct one and how to select it11:39
kagemaroIntuitiveNipple: Right... so how do I sort that out? x.x11:39
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kagemaroIntuitiveNipple: I'm on a Toshiba Satellite A100-225 laptop11:40
IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: You ask all the easy questions :D11:40
Myrttikagemaro: you've used flash (youtube)?11:40
kagemaroMyrtti - yes, it was quiet11:40
runescaperdoes anyone here know any yogurt making recipes?11:40
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Myrttikagemaro: restart your browser11:40
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snowblink6.06 just got kernel updates?11:40
Myrttikagemaro: the flash is probably still using the sound device11:40
Myrtti!offtopic | runescaper11:41
uboturunescaper: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!11:41
magnetronrunescaper: maybe someone in #ubuntu-offtopic does. please join us there11:41
runescaperok where ?11:41
marmerdoes someone knows how i can turn-off tty1 tty2 etc..11:41
marmervirtualconsole i don't use often11:41
jayde_drag0nokay here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30419/   here is what i THOUGHT was my primary drive  /dev/hdg1    here is what occurs when i type the other stuff...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30420/   which is the stuff i'm following from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows11:41
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IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: Capture the output from the following command and put in in a pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for me: "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0"11:42
kagemaroMyrtti - did the random bits, wasnt loud11:42
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Rosskoukhi, can anyone tell me how I can remove updates from the update manager without installing them? i'm running beryl-xgl so any updates break beryl.  Is this possible without disabling the universe reop?11:42
stefgmarmer: first hit in *google* is https://answers.launchpad.net/upstart/+question/198411:43
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sauvinOh, wow, I just noticed... ubuntu's virtual consoles WORK!11:43
Myrttikagemaro: it doesn't matter if it was loud or not. If you've used flash with for example firefox, the flash process is probably still running and it uses your sounddevice, blocking it from other applications11:43
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jayde_drag0nthe 2 drives which are 80g.. are not the primary install,.... it should be my former c drive the 30gig drive... i installed windows on my G drive11:43
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Myrttikagemaro: actually it's firefox that's keeping the sound busy11:43
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kagemaroIntuitiveNipple - brb11:44
jayde_drag0ni'm trying to be as thurough and as telling as i can be to help you help me11:44
stefgsauvin: indeed, ubuntu is (more or less) working OS :-)11:44
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sauvinstefg, so is Fedora Core 6, but one of the few places it really stank on this machine was in wiping out virtual console capability because of some kind of graphics card driver issue.11:45
jayde_drag0nanyone?11:45
stefgsauvin: don't mention anything RPM based in here :-)11:46
Myrtti*blink*11:46
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lamechickhi11:46
sauvinI'll buy that. I'm discovering there's a whole world out there in .deb format which makes it unnecessary for me to have to build any of my favourite stuff.11:46
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wibhi, sometimes some devices won't work on start up. either, the sound card works fine but the usb wlan doesn't or the other way round. how can i fix that? (i'm new to linux and i'm excited that i got the usb wlan to work! but why not every time?)11:47
lamechickhi everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:47
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lamechickdo u play runescape ? if yes type 55511:47
lamechicklol11:48
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snowblinkDoes anyone have a link to the security notice for the 6.06 kernel security update?11:48
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PriceChildlamechick, that's not the way this channel works, and you are offtopic. #ubuntu-offtopic please11:48
stefgwib, you might be suffering from acpi or irq issues with your motherboard. Have a look at the output of 'dmesg' (or put it !pastebin, if you want others to have alook)11:48
stefg!paste | wib11:48
ubotuwib: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:48
kagemaroIntuitiveNipple - Sorry about that, pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3042211:48
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wibstefg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30423/11:50
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IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: give me a couple of minutes to analyse it11:51
kagemaroIntuitiveNipple - Sure11:51
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dissectionAre ports opened using Firestarter only temporary? What I mean to ask is if I close Firestarter, are those ports closed again as it were before?11:51
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jayde_drag0nhow do i unmount in ubuntu11:53
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Rosskoukhi, can anyone tell me how I can remove updates from the update manager without installing them? i'm running beryl-xgl so any updates break beryl.  Is this possible without disabling the universe reop?11:54
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HEP85dissection: I don't think so. It does not open ports. It is just a filter11:54
stefgwib: given the amount of peripherals, my guess is you are running out of irq, or you ISDN adaptor is misbehaving. Fist step would be to go to the bios and disable all the stuff you don't need. Often , for example, there are still LPT chips on the board,eating an IRQ, but no connector is on the outside. Same goes for floppy drives11:54
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IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: See this bug https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/93859 and then check out the link in comment #6 to the HdaIntelSoundHowTo11:56
jayde_drag0nokay some people were helping me before... and since i feel the need to say this.. i have been working on this issue for over 30 hrs... i'm pretty frustrated... i just need someone to help me with some simple commands... when someone does talk to me i'm quick to respond and do what yu ask of me... i just need some help... because at 30hrs i'm obviously not good enough to do this on my own11:56
Jordan_U!pin | Rosskouk11:56
ubotuRosskouk: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto11:56
wibstefg, i see. i don't even need the isdn adapter... i'll try to turn some things off, bye11:56
stefgwib: rip it out then11:56
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jayde_drag0ni am trying ... very unsuccessfully to reinstall grub11:56
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jayde_drag0ni am trying to follow what people have sent me in links11:56
jayde_drag0nits not working11:56
Jordan_Ujayde_drag0n, Do you have only one hard drive?11:56
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brrrthi all, is there a way to check via commandline if the cd-tray is open or closed ? something like cat /proc/blabla ??11:56
jayde_drag0nthank you11:56
jayde_drag0nno i have several11:57
IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: "this is the entry that I appended to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to get the sound to work properly: options snd-hda-intel model=auto"11:57
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jayde_drag0nbut i know which drive ubuntu is on11:57
jayde_drag0ni think11:57
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jayde_drag0nlet me give you the url of my pasted outputs11:57
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sx66|PDAhi11:57
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jayde_drag0nhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30419/11:57
kagemaroThanks IntuitiveNipple - will I need to restart after?11:57
jayde_drag0nand http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30420/11:57
Rosskoukubotu: Thanks i'll have a look at that11:58
IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: If you stop things using sound (e.g. close firefox) you can unload the snd-hda-intel module and reload it after setting the option11:58
jayde_drag0ni thought it was hdg1.. and i've apparantly sucessfully mounted that... but now i think i was supposed to mount just hdg11:58
jayde_drag0nand i can't figure out how to unmount11:58
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jayde_drag0nit told me "unmount was not a command it recognized"11:58
kamaci dont speak english more than :(   am sorry mm   need source turkish python  help :(11:58
Jordan_Ujayde_drag0n, "umount"11:58
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jayde_drag0nso no n11:59
jayde_drag0numount not unmount11:59
Jordan_UYes11:59
jayde_drag0nokay let me try that brb11:59
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sx66|PDA10min install xfce11:59
IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: After stopping any apps using audio, try this from a console: "sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel" - if it comes back *without* reporting an error, you've managed to unload the module, then you can try "sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto" before making changes to the config files11:59
jayde_drag0nand am i correct that i should have mounted hdg and not hdg1?11:59
IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: What I have just detailed is the *manual* way of doing things... if that works, then make the change to the configuration files so it is done every time your PC starts12:00
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Jordan_Ujayde_drag0n, No, you can not mount a drive ( hdg ) only a partition ( hdg1 ), and from the pastebin hdg1 is correct12:01
stefgjayde_drag0n: are you on Live CD now?12:01
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jayde_drag0nokay12:01
jayde_drag0nyes on livecd now12:01
jayde_drag0nso then it is hdg1 that i should mount12:01
stefgjayde_drag0n: ope a terminal and enter sudo grub12:01
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jayde_drag0nstefg i was told to mount the drives before i did just the grub command12:02
jayde_drag0nand mount the boot12:02
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stefgjayde_drag0n: grub doesn't care if the drives are mounted, grub is a micro os, with its own ways12:02
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brrrti need a shell-command to read the cdrom's tray status, open/close , how can i do that?12:02
jayde_drag0nwell i tried just going thru grub.. then i did the find command and got error 1512:02
mattfletcheris there an easy way of getting apt to tell you what packages you have installed since you installed the machine (ie, not the stock packages)?12:03
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Jordan_Ustefg, But having it mounted and using find from grub is the easiest way to be sure of the correct partition ( /dev/whatever != (hdx,x) )12:03
stefgjayde_drag0n: ok... so are are the grub-prompt, and enter 'find /boot/grub/stage1' what do you get?12:03
Jordan_Ustefg, Oh, you don't even need it mounted to do that?12:04
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stefgJordan_U: no, as said earlier. grub lives in its own universe12:04
jayde_drag0nokay hang on12:04
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mattfletcheri've seen dpkg --get-selections but that tells you even the base install packages too12:05
TheRiddlerHey All, I just Installed Linux, it Auto-Updated, then I installed some more stuff, can I still upgrade?  If so, how?12:05
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IntuitiveNipplemattfletcher: You can look in the history of Synaptics, it lists by date, but I'm not sure how to do that from a console12:05
jayde_drag0n"probing devices"12:06
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jayde_drag0nwaiting\12:06
TheRiddlerHmm, Ubuntu 6.06 to be more specific12:06
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mattfletcherIntuitiveNipple: GUI is an option here, where would I find that12:06
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Jordan_UTheRiddler, And you want to upgrade to Feisty?12:06
CheesyMonkey!ops12:06
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok12:06
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CheesyMonkeyNever mind :) They stopped sorry guys12:07
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IntuitiveNipplemattfletcher: I seem to recall its on the first menu in Synaptics12:07
TheRiddlerIf possible, or if it's recomended12:07
CheesyMonkeyPriceChild, Sorry mate :)12:07
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Amaranth_!staff12:07
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)12:07
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mattfletcherIntuitiveNipple: thanks, i will take a look when i have gui access then12:07
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jayde_drag0nstill waiting12:07
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stefgjayde_drag0n: so you don't have a separate /boot partition, do you?12:08
IntuitiveNipplemattfletcher: lemme just see if I can find where it gets its list from... probably somewhere live /var/cache/apt or similar12:08
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jayde_drag0ni don't know... what did my pasted output say?12:08
TheRiddlerSorry, I am way too use to mIRC12:08
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jayde_drag0nhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30419/12:08
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ubuntu__helooo12:08
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stefgjayde_drag0n: nothing of dignostic value, to be honest. but never mind, we'll find out12:08
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jayde_drag0nokee dokee12:09
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TiMiDo!java12:09
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre12:09
ubuntu__geerg12:09
PriceChildThankyou CheesyMonkey12:09
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Jordan_Uubuntu__, Yes?12:09
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TheRiddlerSo should I upgrade from 6.06?12:09
rolfenI have a problem with my DVD, can anyone help?12:09
rolfenTotem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it.12:10
jayde_drag0nhow loong does it take to probe these lovely devices.12:10
stefgjayde_drag0n: so you've installed ubuntu to a removable drive and now need that drive to be present to be able to boot your machine?12:10
CheesyMonkeyPriceChild, I actually thought I overreacted, cause they stopped XD12:10
jayde_drag0nno my problems are longer but simpler than that12:10
jayde_drag0nlet me break it down12:10
ubuntu__full game music mininova.org12:10
rolfenAFAIK i have them pludings installed unless i missed something12:10
jayde_drag0ngimme a minute to type12:10
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PriceChild!piracy | ubuntu__12:10
ubotuubuntu__: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o12:10
dissection!o4o12:11
ubotuSome things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.12:11
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ubuntu__linux cool12:11
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dissectionlol @ space travel12:11
Jordan_UTheRiddler, I would, but if it's a new install it might be faster to just install Feisty rather than update to edgy then feisty12:11
ubuntu__thanks12:11
GastenHey, how do I delete a podcast-sream from rhythmbox?12:11
skollierolfen: appears to be a codecs problem12:12
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dissection!apache12:12
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:12
IntuitiveNipplemattfletcher: It seems the history is specific to Synaptic12:12
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TheRiddlerOkay, and can you tell me the way to add KDE to Ubuntu, or what package is required12:12
jayde_drag0ni decided .. yesterday to screwq it all and i wanted ubuntu... so i popped in my live cd and installed ubuntu ... i have 4 drives ZIM: C formerly windows... internal  DIB: video storage 80g internal   ARMADA: music storage internal  GAZ: now has windows.. i'll get to that in a minute.. internal 40g   GIR: backup storage 300g external12:13
noslinux ubuntu cool12:13
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geemftp://meklort.isa-geek.com user:star + pass:star12:13
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TheRiddlerI had it so both Gnome and KDE were on here before12:13
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ubotuTheRiddler: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.12:13
AmaranthGasten: right click on the feed12:13
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nosftp://meklort.isa-geek.com12:13
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dissectionWhat is a good application to setup an FTP server?12:13
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TheRiddlerAlright everyone12:13
dissectionNo, not clients12:13
Amaranth!fp12:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:13
TheRiddlerThanks for your time12:13
noshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions12:13
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dissectionCool12:14
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Amaranth!ftp12:14
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GastenAmaranth: What's supposed to happen? I'm using Edgy, so I'm not totally up to date.12:14
TiMiDo!flash12:14
rolfenskollie: i have gstreamer0.8-dvd installed12:14
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash12:14
AmaranthGasten: should give you some options12:14
skollie!codecs | rolfen12:14
uboturolfen: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:14
tuna-fishdoes anyone know a system tray for gtk that can have multiple rows?12:14
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jayde_drag0nafter installing i wanted read write permissions on armada and dib... so after searching.. i installed ntfsconfig.... and followed instructions... then it unmounted the drive and told me i no longer had anuy permissions... great.. figured out how to loginto root... couldn't mount them... it said i needed to reboot into windows because it was shut down improperly... didn't have that and in my search to do this ntfsfix..was told to un12:14
AmaranthGasten: "Delete Podcast Feed"12:14
GastenAmaranth: Yes, but none of them is "delete this feed"12:14
jayde_drag0nsoooo after crying12:15
AmaranthGasten: but i'm using gutsy so i don't know when that was added12:15
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jayde_drag0ni installed windows onto the former GAZ drive12:15
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SeokeAnyone know of any good RPGs for Linux?12:15
jayde_drag0nand now i need to reinstall grub so i can get into ubuntu so i can see my dang drives12:15
rolfenskollie: thanks...12:15
GastenAmaranth: You know where the config is ?12:16
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jayde_drag0nbut... i think i just reinstalled grub sucessfully.... soooo gimme 10 minutes to pop the cdout and reboot and see if i have it12:16
jayde_drag0nand either way.. i'll be back to tell you results12:16
GastenAmaranth: so I can dlete it manually.12:16
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mattfletcherIntuitiveNipple: no worries, i'll check tonight12:16
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IntuitiveNipplemattfletcher: Good luck... I'm not sure if it captures history if Synaptics wasn't used12:17
AmaranthGasten: you have to manually remove it from ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml12:17
AmaranthGasten: not a fun task12:17
stefgjayde_drag0n: ok, 1.) Don't Panic! 2.) let's get an intermixed bunch of issues nicely sorted aout. 3.) solve one by one. We'll start at fixing grub12:17
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dsl1248yeah12:17
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gproftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:17
IntuitiveNipplemattfletcher: There is a sneaky way... all new installed packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives/ - you could just list those :)12:17
dissection!vsftpd12:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vsftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:17
Amaranthstefg: he left :/12:17
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Amaranthsleepy time for me12:18
stefgAmaranth: yeh, noticed... better he gets some sleep before fixing his box :-)12:18
GastenAmaranth: know. But he feed is faulty. I have to do it.12:18
AmaranthGasten: if you're not too worried about your song ratings and playlists you could just remove the whole file12:19
dsl1248what's better than audacity12:19
stefg!jokosher12:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jokosher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:19
wibstefg, thank you! it kind of works now. (but it seems to me, that i have to have the usb-wlan plus another usb-device that has to be turned off on start up, weird)12:19
GastenAmaranth: We'll see what I do.l12:19
skolliedsl1248: to do what?12:19
rolfenmy dvd is mounted and this is the mount entry:12:20
Gastendsl1248: depends on what you want.12:20
rolfen/dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=rolf)12:20
rolfenis everything normal?12:20
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rolfenshouldnt the dvd be mounted as something else then iso9660?12:20
Gastendsl1248: jokosher is good for garage band-stuff, ardour for professional stuff, rosegarden for lots of midi etc.12:20
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kagemaroThanks guys, sound's working :D12:20
stefgwib: sometimes device names change, depending on which interface comes up first. look at /etc/iftab12:20
dsl1248I want something like adobe audition12:20
IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: Was it the model=auto option?12:21
Gastendsl1248: dont know what audition is like.12:21
kagemaroYes12:21
Gastendsl1248: but audacity is very good.12:21
skollie!ubuntu-studio | dsl124812:21
ubotudsl1248: ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.12:21
IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: cool... nice when a bug report has a solution too12:21
kagemaroAnyone - does Cakewalk Sonar work with wine?12:21
dsl1248not sure12:21
dsl1248does wine work with wine?!12:21
stefgkagemaro: #winehq and check wine app database12:21
dsl1248it's "experimental"12:22
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dsl1248audacity is good, but it's a little slow12:22
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wibstefg, iftab: eth0 mac 00:0b:6a:3c:fe:d1 arp 1, i don't know what that means. i'm using wlan over usb, that's not the mac address of the usb device.12:22
dhilip89hello12:23
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IntuitiveNippleAny ideas on how to fix Feisty 32-bit where when doing a suspend, it resumes immediately? (no clues so far in the logs or monitoring /etc/acpi/sleep.sh, or unloading various 'known' modules)12:23
kagemaroIntuitiveNipple - yeah it's good, because it's a great soundcard for onboard/laptop12:24
SeokeCan anyone tell me how to install the Unreal Tournament .run file on my computer?12:24
stefgwib: iftab makes sure that every network adapter (identified by his mac address) gets always the same inetrface name (like eth0 or ra0 or whatever)12:24
wibstefg, so shouldn't wlan0 be in there?12:24
wibi'm using ndiswrapper, maybe it's different?12:24
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IntuitiveNipplekagemaro: Yeah... I just fixed another bug with it and Feisty that causes looping of sound after resume from suspend... turned out to be a bug in the mainline kernel with late boot of non-boot CPUs12:25
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HEP85Seoke: open a terminal and type the name of the .run file to run it12:25
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GastenAmaranth: seemed to be pretty easy to strip it out. open in gedit --> search for a keyword in the title and stripped out the entry typed "podcast-feed" I'm pretty sure it'll work.12:25
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mtappendenHi all12:25
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dsl1248do yall ever /off12:26
mtappendenCan anyone recommend a decent ADSL wireless modem router?12:26
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SeokeHEP85: Dont I need to chmod it for exec then sh run it?12:26
younghackerwhere would something downloaded using wget be found at?12:26
mtappendenWe've been using Netgear DG834Ts, but they die after 6-9 months and we have to get a new one12:26
stefgwib: not sure, i was just a rough gist that your issues are related to floating interface names. http://everflux.de/ubuntu-reihenfolge-der-netzwerkkarten-140/12:26
HEP85Seoke: Why are you asking when you already know how it works?12:26
kagemaromtappenden - try Belkin12:26
IntuitiveNippleyounghacker: whatever directory you were in when running wget12:26
SeokeHEP85: Because I just saw it on the forum xD a12:26
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rolfenwhat do you call a fully working ubuntu install12:27
HEP85Seoke: the forum is right12:27
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SeokeHEP85: Thanks12:27
dsl1248can anyone vouch for the Ubuntu Powerpc version?12:27
mtappendenkagemaro: What experience do you have with them? We had their 802.11g PCI cards , in about 10 computers, and they all packed up after 3 months, which put us off their networking stuff.12:27
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HEP85Seoke: np12:27
IntuitiveNipplemtappenden: Is it the power-brick that fails, or the entire unit? We used to have a stock of power-bricks12:27
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younghackeroh12:27
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younghackerIntuitiveNipple: Thanks I'll check there12:27
stefg!ppc | dsl124812:27
ubotudsl1248: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ12:27
kagemaromtappenden - I have had my Belkin router for 2 years, and been using their network cards for the same time period12:27
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mtappendenIntuitiveNipple: On one of the ones we've had it was the power brick, but generally they just start dropping out and have to be unplugged and plougged in again every hour or two12:28
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dsl1248ubotu, what is the tempurature outside?12:28
kagemaro!computers12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about computers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
younghackercool found it,, whats the command to unzip a tar.gz file?12:28
stefgdsl1248: please stop the useless chatter12:28
IntuitiveNipplemtappenden: When it does that have you tried a new power-brick with it? We often found power starvation was the issue, *especially* with dropouts12:29
mtappendenAh, my Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows is downloaded, time to see if it looks legit, last one I tried was most definitely fake.12:29
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mc44!piracy | mtappenden12:29
ubotumtappenden: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o12:29
kagemaromtappenden - if its legit, PM me the URL?12:29
IntuitiveNippleNetGear used to send us a box of replacement bricks so we always had some good to go :)12:29
dsl1248useless bot chatter?12:29
T-ConnectBrb12:30
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dsl1248com on people12:30
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`Over`Bonjour12:30
jribyounghacker: right click -> extract, or 'tar xf file.tar.gz'12:30
mtappendenIntuitiveNipple: Well, we have been using the same power brick with all the ones we've had, over the last few years (too lazy to move all the cabling) and whenever we replace it, it's fine for 9 months or so, so I don't think that's the issue.12:30
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mtappendenkagemaro: Sure, I'll have a look12:30
simonehi , I have a strange issue.. I can't empty the Trash12:30
kagemaro!fr | `Over`12:30
ubotu`Over`: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:30
IntuitiveNipplemtappenden: interesting you say 9 months - thats about the lifetime we had for our bricks before replacement :)12:30
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simoneI've also tried with ... sudo rm -rv ~/.Trash/*12:30
`Over`Thank you ubotu i'm new12:30
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dsl1248why are you guys so sensitive! relax!!!!12:30
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HEP85simone: what error did it give?12:31
stefg!traffic | dsl124812:31
ubotudsl1248: NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!12:31
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mtappendenWhen it drops out, the lights are still on, it just doesn't work, and we just pull the cord out the back and shove it straight back in.12:31
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CheesyMonkeydsl1248, Most people will say...theres alot of chatter going on in here, and they really dont need useless rubbish being typed12:31
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IntuitiveNipplemtappenden: The other thing, have you talked to NetGear about this? We found them really responsive on sorting things out, sending replacement kit on approval, etc.12:31
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dsl1248you are a doucher12:31
simoneHEP85 : no such file or directory12:31
CheesyMonkey!attitude | dsl124812:32
ubotudsl1248: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:32
wibstefg, why is eth0 even in iftab? i have no network devices in my pc anymore. i don't think there is a device with the mac address specified, can i find out?12:32
mc44dsl1248: please don't start insulting people12:32
mtappendenIntuitiveNipple: No... We just want something that's gonna work.12:32
jribdsl1248: please be respectful of others here and stay on-topic12:32
dsl1248get a bigger monitor12:32
kagemaroAnyone - what gnutella client would you recommend?12:32
dsl1248i am being respectful12:32
IntuitiveNipplemtappenden: That sounds like what we experienced... unexplained dropouts, everything looks fine, web interface works, etc, but cycling power would restart it... I was told once it is due to the small low-quality capacitors in the bricks.12:32
stefgwib: lspci ... you might have an integrated nic in your mobo chipset12:32
jribkagemaro: gtk-gnutella or frostwire12:32
kagemarodsl1248 - I use 2048x1536, doesn't mean I want to read crap in the chat12:32
dsl1248did you define the respectfullness12:32
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wibstefg, no, i turned it off12:32
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stefgwib, yeah, in the bios... the kernel is smarter than the bios :-)12:33
dsl1248you guys are acting like a bunch of whining 7th graders12:33
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Juhaz!ops12:33
HEP85simone: does it show up when running "ls ~ -a"?12:33
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok12:33
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mtappendenIntuitiveNipple: That's really weird. As I said, we never change the brick when we buy a new router...12:33
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T-ConnectHow I get 7-zip to work?12:33
HEP85simone: I mean the .Trash folder. Maybe the whole folder got deleted instead of its contents12:34
dhilip89hello, i had a problem with firefox browser on ubuntu12:34
IntuitiveNipplemtappenden: We've used all the common and not-so-common manufacturers and they all suffer from these issues from time to time... its rather like the hard disk issues of a few years ago... first one manufacturer then another, you didn't know where to turn!12:34
jrib!7zip > T-Connect (see the private message from ubotu)12:34
younghackerhow do i unzip the tar.gz file12:34
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jribyounghacker: I told you12:34
younghackerreally12:34
younghackerlet me back track sorry12:34
PriceChildyounghacker, btw you don't unzip tars12:34
younghackerwell sorry12:34
younghackerdecompress12:34
str0i have 1 AGP and 1 PCI video card in my system but it is making the PCI default and using it in feisty to drive both monitors ...can anyone here help me set the BIOS IRQ options so that the APG is the default card ?12:34
younghacker?12:34
wibstefg, oh well, it works now... thanks for that. i'll try to fix it on my own. bye!12:34
younghackeris that the correct way12:34
mtappendenYeah, it's a right pain, it costs an absolute fortune to keep replacing them12:35
IntuitiveNippleif it's a gz, he gunzips it !12:35
younghackeroh12:35
younghackerlol12:35
dsl1248don't you mean g-unzips it12:35
IntuitiveNippleif it's a tar.gz you do tar -xzf <filename>12:35
mtappendenWe were looking at maybe buying an industrial grade one, and over 5 years it'd easily pay for itself the amount we're spending, but they're all huge and complicated12:35
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younghackerIntuitiveNipple: thanX12:35
dhilip89my firefox browser couldn't render properly for some pages12:35
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younghackerthanX again everyone12:36
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PriceChildIntuitiveNipple, you unzip zips... you untar tars12:36
dhilip89this is the screenshot: http://dhilip89.hopto.org/pictures/linux/Screenshot.png12:36
younghackerill probably be asking more questions, i had to reinstall and i had all my notes on commands saved in tomboy notes12:36
younghackerthey were my backup12:36
younghacker=)12:36
mc44PriceChild: theres a song in there somewhere :)12:36
dhilip89and another is: http://dhilip89.hopto.org/pictures/linux/Screenshot-1.png12:36
PriceChildmc44, doop de doo12:36
IntuitiveNipplePriceChild: I gunzip gz's, which was what younghacker asked12:36
dsl1248stop wasting space witbh your :)12:37
dimebarPriceChild: if I stare at it for ages will I see a rude picture?12:37
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mc44PriceChild: to the tune of the hokey pokey12:37
dsl1248not related to this chatroom12:37
bullgard4Using the 'Create_Launcher' dialog I created a panel applet. It works all right. What is the filename of this Launcher?12:37
T-ConnectThe problem is that I can't use 7-zip. :(12:37
PriceChilddsl1248, please move on12:37
CheesyMonkeyThank you PriceChild12:37
dsl1248worry about yo' selves12:38
younghackeris tar.gz the same as .tgz?12:38
Myrttiyounghacker: yes12:38
younghackerthanX12:38
dhilip89nobody can answer me ?12:38
SS2oberchecker: hey oberchecker, this is the wrong room ;)12:38
jrib!please > dhilip89 (see the private message from ubotu)12:38
mattfletcherdsl1248, i think we can allow the occasional pun when directly related to an ongoing thread12:38
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dsl1248you are so on the ball! wow!12:38
mrignswho's responsible for the qt4 backport in feisty? It seems to have broken the systray icons of qt4 apps like last.fm player and skype12:38
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mrignsI want a duel!12:39
PriceChilddsl1248, please stop...12:39
PriceChildmrigns, you too12:39
PriceChildmrigns, oh sorry ignore me :)12:39
mrignslol12:39
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rolfenubuntu=half baked12:39
mc44mrigns: file a bug ;)12:39
dhilip89!repeat12:39
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience12:39
jribdhilip89: weird, does it happen on other pages?12:39
mc44rolfen: please don't troll12:39
rolfenokay then12:39
dsl1248i guess im not smart enough for you, fine. i'll never say anything ever again.12:39
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stefgjrib, dhilip89 : this seems to be the router admin page, look at the ip12:40
dhilip89yes12:40
T-ConnectCannot open RPGM_XP.rar12:40
dhilip89it appear on some website too12:40
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mrignsthe problem is I'm not 100% percent sure about the backport being the source of the bug12:40
jribT-Connect: did you install 'unrar' from multiverse?12:41
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mattfletcherdsl1248, lurking in a room moaning whenever the subject strays even slightly off course doesn't help anyone. as a thriving community we need to be able to have a laugh. a one-line joke "there's a song in there somewhere" isn't the end of the world12:41
dhilip89it has no problem on my windows machine with firefox or other browser12:41
T-ConnectNope just 7-zip12:41
mattfletcheroh. after all that rant, he's gone12:41
jribT-Connect: I think you need 'unrar' for rar files.  Give it a try12:41
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stefgdhilip89: check in firefox' options which default charset it uses. try utf-8 or iso 8859-112:42
T-Connect7-zip should work. It seem broken12:42
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jayde_drag0nnope12:42
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jayde_drag0nboth times.. just went back into windows12:42
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eBoxNethello..12:42
T-Connectunrar isn't free?12:43
defryskT-Connect, nope12:43
MyrttiT-Connect: free as in beer, yes.12:43
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mtappenden_Who was interested in Harry Potter? It's legit, but it's photos of the pages, hard to read.12:43
jribT-Connect: the description for p7zip just mentions 7z and 7za compression.  unrar isn't free in the sense that it is proprietary12:43
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jayde_drag0nand weirdly find /boot/grub/stage1  gave the output of hd3,0  not on hd012:43
jrib!offtopic | mtappenden_12:43
ubotumtappenden_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:43
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mtappenden_Yeah man12:44
stefgjayde_drag0n: that's logical, if your root is on /dev/sdg12:44
T-ConnectCan I use wine with 7-zip?12:44
jayde_drag0nstefg: lead the way obe-wan... help me fix this so i can finally goto sleep12:44
jribT-Connect: why... just use unrar to open rar files12:44
T-Connect7-zip is free.12:45
stefgjayde_drag0n: lol... open terminal, sudo grub,12:45
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HEP85T-Connect: There is unrar-free, but it can't handle RAR 3.012:45
jribT-Connect: rar is a proprietary format anyway12:45
jayde_drag0nokay12:45
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jayde_drag0nalien probe... commencing12:45
mrignspeople who encountered the same problem with qt4 systray icon transparency broken by the recent qt4 backportto feisty can confirm the bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/12575712:45
HEP85T-Connect: There is unrar-free, but it can't handle RAR 3.012:45
stefgjayde_drag0n: enter find /boot/grub/stage1 again12:45
aleksanterianyone got repositories to newer versions of software? for example would need gcc 4.2 which isn't in the standard repositoy12:46
T-ConnectWhich ones? http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm12:46
jayde_drag0n(hd3,0)12:46
HEP85T-Connect: Sorry for double post. Did you install p7zip?12:46
dhilip89the encoding is depend on the page12:46
T-ConnectYep12:46
T-ConnectIt broken12:46
stefgjayde_drag0n: root (hd3,0)12:46
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jayde_drag0ni just did that12:46
jribT-Connect: nah, use synaptic to install the "unrar" package12:46
stefgjayde_drag0n: setup  (hd3)12:46
jayde_drag0nbefore i came back12:46
jayde_drag0nit just went to windows12:46
stefgjayde_drag0n: ah, wait!12:47
jayde_drag0nexactly how your telling me12:47
jayde_drag0ni missed a step?12:47
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stefgjayde_drag0n: grub needs to be in the MBR of hd0, regardless where ubuntu is installed12:47
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leo|termProblem: I want to make /web/scripts/fix_stuff available from anywhere. Someone told me to PATH="$PATH:/web/scripts"; export PATH, is this correct and i will be able to type fix_stuff anywhere to run the script?12:47
stefgso it's setup (hd0)12:47
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jayde_drag0nyes exactly.. so why are we setting it to hd3?12:47
jayde_drag0noh12:47
jayde_drag0ngot it12:47
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linux_user400354what is feisty backports? does anyone know what a backport is?12:48
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jayde_drag0nokay so root (hd3,0)    then setup (hd0)12:48
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T-Connectunrar-free?12:48
jayde_drag0nyes?12:48
jribT-Connect: unrar-free is useless.  Use "unrar".  It doesn't cost anything12:48
stefgjayde_drag0n: so it's root(hd3,0) telling grub where its menu.lst is. then setup (hd0) to actually write grub with this pointer to the MBR of the first hd12:48
jayde_drag0nokay it said succeded12:49
jayde_drag0nreboot now?12:49
stefgjayde, type quit. reboot and check12:49
jribleo|term: yes, put that in /etc/environment if it's for everyone or in the appropriate file in your HOME directory if it's just for your user12:49
jayde_drag0nokee dokee *holds breath* i'll be back with results no matter what12:50
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ariczHumm, both my CD-rom and DVD-rom stopped working.. anyone know how to try fixing this?12:50
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T-ConnectDamn it. I can't use that ether?12:50
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jribT-Connect: can't use what?12:51
dhilip89maybe the problem is caused by after I installed various types of font12:51
T-Connectunrar12:51
jribT-Connect: you can, why do you say you can't?12:51
HEP85T-Connect: What about p7zip-full? The program supports 7z (that implements LZMA compression12:51
HEP85algorithm), ZIP, Zip64, CAB, RAR, ARJ, GZIP, BZIP2, TAR, CPIO, RPM, ISO12:51
HEP85and DEB formats12:51
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T-ConnectI don't know what to do.12:51
jribT-Connect: have you enabled multiverse?12:51
T-Connect???12:52
jrib!multiverse > T-Connect (see the private message from ubotu)12:52
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adzmanizamhi all12:52
golamhi guys12:53
T-ConnectThat not going to help me.12:53
dayahow to identify which video card is installed in my pcd12:53
dayapc,12:53
SlimeyPetedaya: lspci12:53
jribT-Connect: why not?  You need to enable multiverse to install "unrar"12:53
stefgdaya: lspci | grep VGA12:53
leo|termok thx jrib  :)12:53
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ikoniajrib ?12:53
T-ConnectWhat is multiverse?12:53
ikoniawhat are you doing in here12:53
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adzmanizamhi all12:54
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golamanybody know what is the command to write data into a blank CD12:54
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stefggolam: cdrecord12:54
jribT-Connect: it's a repository.  The page ubotu linked you to explains in detail12:54
jribikonia: hi12:54
SlimeyPetegolam: cdrecord but you'll need to build an iso first IIRC12:54
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dhilip89multiverse is non-free packages12:54
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ikoniajrib he, I'll catup with you in #gold later12:54
T-ConnectI'm not going to read all that.12:54
golamhmm thanks let me try12:54
stefggolam: so it's a combo of mkisofs and cdrecord, to be more precise12:54
T-ConnectHeadace12:55
dayastefg, thanks12:55
g[r] eekhi ive logged into my ubuntu box via putty. i want to change the font colours (permanently, so that when i reload putty the colour changes persist). ideas?12:55
golamsorry I did not understand12:55
g[r] eeki'm looking for some kind of file where i set font colours. for example, links in my file system, executable files, folders, all have different colours.12:55
stefg!k3b | golm12:56
ubotugolm: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto12:56
g[r] eeki want to change these12:56
stefg!k3b | golam12:56
ubotugolam: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto12:56
jribT-Connect: ok, well those two pages tell you how to enable multiverse12:56
pacolocoI need you help with amarok, don't reproduce mp312:56
SlimeyPetegolam: you're better off using a grphical program such as k3b12:56
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golamI am usung gnome12:56
T-ConnectIt should be enabled on default settings12:56
Dusk_how can i remove the sda1 sda2 icons from my desktop???12:56
T-ConnectWhy mess with it?12:56
jribT-Connect: no, it can't be because it's non-free12:56
SlimeyPetegolam: you can run k3b on gnome.12:56
SlimeyPeteit works fine12:57
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ascOut of curiosity, under what circumstances would part of a partition be in the MBR area?12:58
T-ConnectWhy are the words small on the snapshots?12:58
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T-ConnectI can't read those.12:58
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stefgasc: under the condition of a foobar'd partition table12:58
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golamI have just installed k3b ... let me try it12:58
Dusk_how can i remove the sda1 sda2 icons from my desktop???12:58
T-ConnectI give up.12:59
jrib!icons > Dusk_ (see the private message from ubotu)12:59
geoaxishello people12:59
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jribDusk_: either don't mount them to /media or change the gconf key ubotu told you about with gconf-editor12:59
geoaxismy mic still aint working12:59
dhilip89i had a problem again, my max screen resolution only has 800x600 after i installed nvidia-glx-legacy12:59
Dusk_!icons12:59
ubotuWant to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)12:59
jribT-Connect: system -> administration -> software sources is all the page says...12:59
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ascstefg: Hmm. No way it should happen under normal circumstances, then?01:00
DarKnesS_WolFif i have ht prcoc. i should use linux-image-server but in proc i can see only one cpu is that normal ??01:00
g[r] eekhi can anyone help me change the font colours in my terminal?01:00
jribg[r] eek: right click -> edit current profile01:00
stefgasc: no, that's an indication of seroius trouble01:00
dhilip89the card is Geforce2 Ti01:00
Dusk_jrib, there should be another way...just a click01:00
g[r] eekjrib: server edition- looking for some kind of config file01:00
jribDusk_: I don't know of one, file a bug01:00
T-ConnectHeh it not for 7.0401:01
g[r] eekjrib: when i log into my ubuntu server with putty, folders, executables, links, all different colours. i want to edit these.01:01
T-ConnectDifferent setup01:01
stefg!fixres | dhilip8901:01
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jribg[r] eek: edit the LS_COLORS variable01:01
ascstefg: Interesting, thanks. I'm having a discussion with a guy who says overwriting his MBR broke a partition. :p01:01
jayde_drag0nno such luck01:01
Dusk_!desktop01:01
ubotudhilip89: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:01
ubotuA desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.01:01
Dusk_!nautilus01:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:01
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jayde_drag0nit brought up grub... but it did what it did when i messed up the install the very first time01:02
g[r] eekjrib: not sure what you mean?01:02
jayde_drag0nit hung forever... then ent to a grub prompt... no choices01:02
dhilip89thanks01:02
Jjohngeaxis, look in your gui sound settings and make sure is is not muted01:02
g[r] eekjrib: is that an env variable like PATH?01:02
Dusk_!nautilus01:02
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:02
ascstefg: Well, thanks. Now I don't know what the heck happened, but I'm still right. ;p01:02
bullgard4What program produced the + and - signs in the email  http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/12900/ that I received?01:02
stefgasc: if e.g. partiton magic f*cked his part-table before, that might be possible. but that's a consequence, not a cause01:02
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jayde_drag0nsooo i'm just going to do a complete reinstall.... again01:02
T-ConnectAnyway it wrong faq for 7.04. I give up.01:02
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jribg[r] eek: yeah, in your .bashrc you should have something like eval `dir-colors -b` that does it01:03
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jayde_drag0nbut before i do that... i want to take my 2 drives... dib and armada and format them to the linux filesystem... how do i do that?01:03
g[r] eekjrib: thanks01:03
T-ConnectUbuntu 6.10 only01:03
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jribT-Connect: it's the same.01:03
dhilip89the compiz went wrong for my card too01:03
T-ConnectNo it is not.01:03
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dhilip89it hangs the whole desktop01:03
jribT-Connect: you don't have system -> administration -> software sources in your menu?01:03
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T-ConnectYes I do. But the faq made for Ubuntu 6.10 only01:04
jribT-Connect: click on that and add multiverse01:04
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T-Connect software sources is different01:04
misstajahQuestion: http://intellinuxwireless.org/tar.php?p=iwlwifi&a=iwlwifi-0.1.1.tgz&f=INSTALL <- it doesn't seem to work, how can I solve this?01:04
jayde_drag0nstefg: how do i format my 2 external drives from ntfs or whatever they are to ubuntu?01:04
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jribT-Connect: it should be easy for you to figure out.  Click on "multiverse"01:05
jayde_drag0njust lead me thru 1 i should be able to do the other by myself after that01:05
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sochi01:05
T-ConnectWhere? It not listed01:05
soci have a problem ...01:05
stefgjayde_drag0n: you coud use gparted01:05
socwhenever my computer is not connected to the internet it is incredibly slow01:05
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jribT-Connect: "software restricted by copyright or legal issues (multiverse)"  fourth option on the first tab01:06
jayde_drag0nstefg: okay lead me oh genius one01:06
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T-ConnectIt is enable01:06
slytherinmisstajah: What is that thing you are trying to install? And what is the error you are getting?01:06
socstart up takes ages, logging in and even seeing the wallpaper takes minutes, same with programs ...01:06
T-ConnectDefault setting01:06
jayde_drag0nonce i do it the first time.. i'll have learned enough to do the second on my own01:06
stefgjayde_drag0n: but as things sound you're in for a substantial cleanup of your hd-landscape01:06
jribT-Connect: the do 'sudo aptitude install unrar' in a terminal01:06
socdoes someone have an idea?01:06
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soctop doesn't show anything01:06
ascHow might I print the contents of the boot sector of a drive?01:06
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misstajahslytherin: I am trying to put my Intel 4965AGN WiFi card to work, there's no error at all, I just can do the "./load" instruction in the URL given and so there's no results :S01:07
g[r] eekjrib: i see that eval dir-colors command is for altering the colours of file types displayed when using the ls command. i am after the following however: i have a log file that is continuously updated. i monitor activity using tail -f filename.log. i want to alter the font colours of BOLD text. any ideas?01:07
g[r] eekjrib: my aim is to make certain "important" logged lines stick out01:07
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T-ConnectNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. That odd01:07
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moggio_is there an easy way to install the smartlink driver for my modem?01:08
slytherinmisstajah: Did you extract the package (tar.gz file)?01:08
golamsorry ,,,, but the k3b is not working... at the last moment ..it gave me an error...01:08
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jribT-Connect: pastebin the entire output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:08
misstajahslytherin: sure :)01:08
SlimeyPetegolam: what error?01:08
stefg!dialup | moggio_01:08
ubotumoggio_: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto01:08
jayde_drag0nthats what i'm doing... my plan is... i'm copying everything from ARMADA to GIR ( my external) once thats done.... i wantg to format those drives to ubuntu format... then reinstall ubuntu... once i'm sucessfully in ubuntu and can see all my drives... i'll  want to wipe the windows disk01:08
jribg[r] eek: ah, I see.  I don't know how to do that on a terminal that's not in X01:08
soccan someone help me?01:08
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IndyGunFreakHow do I set Nautilus to apply the same settings to all folders(50%, View as list)..., w/o going through every folder01:08
slytherinmisstajah: Sorry I have no idea. I am not sure if you need to install driver.01:08
jayde_drag0nso that everything is linux format and i can see read and write to all of them01:08
g[r] eekjrib: im using putty. does that imply "not in X"? im not sure what you mean by that term01:08
misstajahi am running feisty, but my card isn't recognized01:08
stefgjayde_drag0n: give me sudo fdisk -l listing on pastebin01:09
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jayde_drag0nor however i should go about this... if i can do it all from live cd before i run the installer agin i will01:09
golamits : "Unable to fixate the disk"01:09
misstajahanyone help me on this?01:09
T-Connecthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30425/01:09
jayde_drag0ni just want all the drives to read appropriatley... be able to read and write.. and only have ubuntu on the machine01:09
jayde_drag0nwhat would you suggest?01:09
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SlimeyPetegolam: ah. Try reading from the disc anyway. It might still work.01:09
jribg[r] eek: well, you could change it for a particular terminal emulator like gnome-terminal or aterm.  It would be a terminal emulator setting though, so if you can, I think it would be in putty's settings01:09
moggio_stefg: i looked at that, seems like you have to jump through hoops to get it working01:10
stefgjayde_drag0n: ok, that's a plan... so give me the listing so i can see what you have now01:10
jayde_drag0nokay01:10
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golamhold on,,,let me try01:10
T-ConnectGet that paste?01:10
g[r] eekjrib: yeah i can change foreground color in putty. but there is also an option there "change bold font foreground" - changing that doesn't do anything.01:10
bullgard4What Ubuntu programs produce an 'diff file'?01:10
Myrttidiff01:10
g[r] eekjrib: but changing everything else (cursor, background) works01:10
g[r] eekjrib: anyhow thanks for your help01:10
Myrttidiff file1 file2 > diff.txt01:10
jayde_drag0nwhats the paste url again?01:10
slytherinT-Connect: Please use the nick of the person you are addressing to. Use Tab key for auto completion of nickname.01:10
jribT-Connect: what does 'apt-cache policy unrar' return?01:11
stefg!paste | jayde_drag0n01:11
ubotujayde_drag0n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:11
Don64IndyGunFreak: open Nautilus, edit, preferences01:11
CraZy675I'm running off the 7.04 live cd and I want to change my screen resolution 1680 x 1050 but the options don't go up that high, what can i do?01:11
moggio_ironic that it was really easy to get working on slackware01:11
IndyGunFreakDon64: only does it one folder at a time.01:11
humeanyone could give me some help with guraddog? it seems to be blocking my VPN device ham0, how can I tell it to let it pass free?01:11
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jribg[r] eek: http://linux.die.net/man/1/putty see the notes about -fb.  maybe that helps01:12
T-Connecthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30426/01:12
robert_ugohi. i have a problem with mp3 player with MTP mode on ubuntu 7.04. amarok and mtp-detect cant find my mp3. but lsusb see my mp3. mtp-detect with "sudo" can find my mp3. how can i use amarok to connect?01:12
slytherinhume: I haven't used guarddog but firestarter is a good and easy to use GUI for firewall01:12
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HEP85CraZy675: edit your xorg.conf manually or run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"01:12
Nod-UbuntuOnboard sound on my ubuntu machine is not working.  I don't have a CD to install the drivers.  What are my options?01:12
Don64IndyGunFreak: It changed for me this way01:12
jayde_drag0nhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30427/01:12
jribT-Connect: ok, unrar is installed so you should be able to just right click on your rar file and hit "extract here"01:12
IndyGunFreakDon64: wait, i see the prob... thanks.01:12
humeslytherin, but I have guarddog and want to keep it..:)01:13
allbert#2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 200701:13
allbertLinux linuxgeeks.us 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux01:13
slytherinrobert_ugo: Does amarok support MTP?01:13
HEP85CraZy675: If you use dpkg-reconfigure there will be a screen at some point where you can select all resolutions you want to use01:13
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jayde_drag0nheres what i want the end result... all disks ubuntu and named the following if i can... 80gig  ARMADA   80 gig DIB  40GIG GAZ  all empty and ubuntu filesystem no more windows01:13
T-ConnectWon't work01:14
jribT-Connect: what happens exactly01:14
T-ConnectNot listed01:15
slytherinjayde_drag0n: If you don't need separate partitions then keep only one partition and use it for / in installation of Ubuntu. Otherwise you don't need to do any special thing.01:15
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jayde_drag0nand like i said if i can do them all from livecd and then once they're all done.. reinstall ubuntu ... then i'll be eternally happy.. cuz then i can start fresh with everything rigth the first time01:15
IndyGunFreakjayde_drag0n: so just format them w/ gparted and that should do it.01:15
jayde_drag0nokay never done that.. can you walk me thru DIB?01:15
jribT-Connect: try restarting nautilus with 'killall nautilus'01:15
robert_ugoslytherin: yes, wth libmtp01:15
CraZy675how do I restart the session using the live cd?01:15
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IndyGunFreakCraZy675: control alt backspace01:16
jayde_drag0ni'm copying all the files from armada now01:16
stefgjayde_drag0n: would be easier if you put my nick in front if you're talking to me, so iget a highlight in my IRC clinet01:16
T-ConnectThen what?01:16
jayde_drag0nstefg: ok sorry01:16
jribT-Connect: then see if "extract here" is listed01:16
T-ConnectNo not there01:16
golamSlimeyPete: sorry,,but k3b is giving me same error01:16
jribT-Connect: are you using GNOME?01:16
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T-ConnectIt did turn it into internet file01:16
golamAnd its nearly hang my gnome01:16
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T-ConnectUbuntu Desktop 7.0401:17
jayde_drag0nstefg: okay can you walk me thru DIB?01:17
mc44T-Connect: is the file the size you are expecting it to be?01:17
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SlimeyPetegolam: nearly hanging? sounds like a hardware issue, perhaps. You could try Nero, Bonfire, X-CD-Roast or Gnome Toast instead of k3b01:18
geoaxishello people01:18
SlimeyPetesee if they work01:18
geoaxisneed help with mic on ubuntu01:18
stefgjayde_drag0n: from a professional viewpoint i'd first cleanup your harddisk zoo by rearranging the disks on the hardware side. what is internal, what external?01:18
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T-ConnectI have no idea why it did this. HTML document <- RPGM_XP.rar01:18
CraZy675ok cool my screen resolution totally works now01:18
jayde_drag0neverything but the 300gig is internal01:19
T-Connect613 bytes (613 bytes)01:19
jayde_drag0nak01:19
robert_ugo i have a problem with mp3 player with MTP mode on ubuntu 7.04. amarok and mtp-detect cant find my mp3. but lsusb see my mp3. mtp-detect with "sudo" can find my mp3. how can i use amarok to connect? can someone help me? :/01:19
jribT-Connect: open it in your web browser01:19
jayde_drag0nstefg: everything but the 300g is internal01:19
T-ConnectCannot open RPGM_XP.rar01:19
CraZy675now the only issue I have left is gtk-recordmydesktop the mic is really quite and you can barley hear it01:19
mc44T-Connect: it obviously hasn't downloaded correctly01:19
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golamI am using ubuntu 7.04 under vmware probably thats why but...01:19
IndyGunFreakrobert_ugo: what type of player?01:20
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golamI tried gnome default one it was also giving me an error01:20
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robert_ugoiRiver T6001:20
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stefgjayde_drag0n: so you are ready to flatten all the disks, and reinstall from scratch?01:20
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g[r] eekjrib: hey thought you might like to know (just sharing my search results) - multitail - its like the tail command except you can set colours and all sorts of things. really cool01:20
g[r] eekcheer01:20
g[r] eeks01:21
g[r] eeksudo apt-get install multitail01:21
robert_ugoIndyGunFreak: but i try to conect with amarok in root mode, and it connect succesfull01:21
jribg[r] eek: cool, thanks01:21
golamand where I can get nero01:21
T-ConnectOh ok. It emply. lol01:21
T-ConnectXD01:21
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T-ConnectBad download01:21
robert_ugoIndyGunFreak: but i need to able connect to my mp3 player withuot sudo01:21
IndyGunFreakrobert_ugo: thats kind of odd, have you went through amarok's settings?01:21
Nod-UbuntuHow do I see what sound drivers are installed on my ubuntu machine?01:21
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jayde_drag0nstefg: 3 of them are ready... one 80gig is currently transferring to the external 300g01:22
IndyGunFreakrobert_ugo: yous hould be able to, i've never had to use sudo w/ my Ipod.01:22
jayde_drag0nstefg: i'm ready to flatten 3 right now01:22
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robert_ugoIndyGunFreak: ehh, maybe main user is not able to comunication wth usb?01:23
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stefgjayde_drag0n: ok, lets take the 300 Gig out of consideration by now, and unplug it for th installation01:23
IndyGunFreakrobert_ugo: i doubt htat, but its possible i guess, have you went through the devices tab in amarok?01:23
golamSlimeyPete: thank for your help01:23
jayde_drag0nstefg:its transferring the files01:23
Jordan_UNod-Ubuntu, "asoundconf list" to see what cards ubuntu has detected01:23
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robert_ugoIndyGunFreak, yes, i have01:23
IndyGunFreakhave you tried configure amarok?.. cuz Iriver devices are in the list.01:24
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stefgjayde_drag0n: how come the 2 80 Gig ones are hde and hdf? additional IDE -pci card?01:24
IndyGunFreakconfigure amarok/media devices01:24
jayde_drag0nstefg: armada is currently transferring its 60gigs of into to the 300gig01:24
jayde_drag0nstefg:i have 4 internal hard drives01:24
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jayde_drag0nstefg: an one external01:25
CraZy675how do i figure out what device my mic is? (ex. hw:0,0)01:25
robert_ugoi know, but old iriver use old protocol, but i use mtp, and there is mtp, but while i try to connect amarok write "No device found"01:25
jayde_drag0nstefg: no partitions01:25
stefgjayde_drag0n: yes, good to make backups first, then disconnect the external (so it's safe) and then rearrange the disks on the IDE channels01:25
Nod-UbuntuJordan_U: Thanks01:25
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Jordan_UNod-Ubuntu, np01:25
T-ConnectYay it works01:26
robert_ugoalso mtp-detect cant find my mp3 player withuot sudo01:26
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stefgjayde_drag0n: what motherboard supports 4 inetrnal disks (if you have a cd/DVD drive as well) ?01:26
Nod-UbuntuJordan_U: What I do if System>Preference>Sound     does not open my  'Sound Preference' window.01:27
robert_ugowhen i type "sudo mtp-detect" it connect succesfull01:27
jayde_drag0nstefg: okay if i have to wait to do everything untill after the transferr.... i know its a big favor.... but can you use the paste bin... and write down all my step by step instructions so i can print them out.. because they won't be done untill tomorrow... well today.. but i need some sleep before i goto work.... its 4:30am here and i goto work at 9am01:27
jayde_drag0nstefg: its a file server01:27
robert_ugowhat can i do?01:27
robert_ugo:/01:27
jayde_drag0nstefg: i have a cdrw and a dvd drive as well01:27
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dhilip89bye01:28
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Nod-UbuntuJordan_U: asoundconf list              lists two things,    VT82xx and CMI8738                 the CMI is my sound card.01:28
jayde_drag0nstefg:and it was given to me.. so i don't knwo the motherboard.. but it is AMD01:28
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stefgjayde_drag0n: so your IDE connections are a big mess, too. you should a.) make a sensible connection scheme (rejumper and reorder your drives on the cables), then look at lvm01:29
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jayde_drag0nstefg: they are all in order01:29
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stefg!lvm | jayde_drag0n01:29
ubotujayde_drag0n: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO01:29
robert_ugoehh, bye01:29
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stefgjayde_drag0n: for setting up a fileserver you should really use the alternate install01:29
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stefg!alternat | jayde_drag0n01:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alternat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:30
jayde_drag0nstefg: first jumper cd dvd, second jumper c drive, 3rd jumper 80 gig, 80 gig, 4th jumper 40 gig01:30
stefg!alternate | jayde_drag0n01:30
ubotujayde_drag0n: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal01:30
Jordan_UNod-Ubuntu, asoundconf set-default-card CMI873801:30
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stefgjayde_drag0n: never put the CD as first01:30
jayde_drag0nstefg: all in order from top to bottom01:30
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Nod-UbuntuJordan_U: Okay, i'll see what this does.01:30
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DubimaxHello,01:31
jayde_drag0nstefg: i didn't i said first jumper before i said rthe words CD01:31
DubimaxI am new to this, can I get some help?01:31
jayde_drag0nstefg: but okay01:31
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Pici!ask | Dubimax01:31
ubotuDubimax: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:31
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Jordan_UDubimax, Just ask your question and if anyone can help they will :)01:32
T-ConnectThanks people01:32
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jayde_drag0nstefg: nothing is sloppy on the inside of the machine.. there isn't even dust01:32
CraZy675how do i figure out what device my mic is? (ex. hw:0,0)01:32
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jayde_drag0nstefg: and everything is labeled and in order from top to bottom.. CD rom, DVD, C Drive, E drive, F drive G drive01:33
DubimaxOk, this is the first time I am using Ubunto and everything is new.  I am trying to get sound to work from the internet and it does not work.  the web site is htt://radiosai.org01:33
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stefgjayde_drag0n: but the logical drive assignment (the bios-order) is a mess01:33
kagemaroDubimax - does sound work when not on the Internet?01:33
Dubimaxyes01:33
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jayde_drag0nwhere do you see that?01:33
Administratorhello,i wish to have a dual boot laptop, i have 450 gb space. and i am ready to format the entire drive.   should i install ubuntu before i install windows or VISA versa01:33
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jayde_drag0nerp stefg: where do you see that?01:34
kagemaroAdministrator - easier to install windows first01:34
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kagemaroAdministrator - as Ubuntu's bootloader will not shut off windows01:34
stefgjayde_drag0n: it would go like hda, hdc, hde, hdf if you have 4 IDE connectors and all hd's jumpered as master01:34
stefgjayde_drag0n: it would go like hda, hdc, hde, hdg if you have 4 IDE connectors and all hd's jumpered as master01:34
jayde_drag0nstefg: now i see what uyou are saying.. yah the F*$#@*&$# windows install did that01:35
jayde_drag0nstefg: it WAS that way01:35
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stefgjayde_drag0n: impossible a software alters hardware settings01:35
Administrator450gb should have read 40gb - sorry01:35
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ascDubimax: Try installing mozilla-mplayer.01:36
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asc(and then restarting firefox)01:37
jayde_drag0nstefg: well its going to have top stay whatever way it is right now01:37
DubimaxIf anyone can try to go to http://radiosai.org/ and click on listen now and see if it works for you and then please help me figure out how it can work for me.01:37
jayde_drag0nstefg: were removing the 40gig anyways01:37
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stefgjayde_drag0n: i can't give you a complete tutorial on sensible partion layout now (only 30 mins left here) but you should really get the screwdriver, sort the hardware out and then read about lvm01:38
ascDubimax: It works for me, with mozilla-mplayer.01:38
jayde_drag0nstefg: so we can just put it there... or whever the heck makes it first hda if thats what the computer wants01:38
jayde_drag0nstefg: no i'm not touching any wiring01:38
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jayde_drag0nstefg: the insides are staying the way that they are... because i can't risk killing my only computers insides01:38
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julohi01:39
juloI have created an upstart script and it fails to start automatically: "unable to read: Invalid argument", but if I manually start it, it works well.01:39
juloAny idea ?01:39
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Dubimaxasc:  Could you help me figure it out.  I am using Ubunto 6.06 I think, just installed it01:39
jayde_drag0nstefg: so i install whatever way works and gives me all my drives01:39
stefgjayde_drag0n: do an alternate install with lvm01:39
dragonphyreMy Esata drive is not showing up in either gpart or Hardware Information. I have rebooted, and it still dosen't show up. I thought that esata was fixed a couple of kernels ago?01:39
Jordan_UDubimax, I would recommend upgrading to Feisty01:39
jayde_drag0nstfg: what is that?01:39
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ansqueHi. Maybe someone know why i can't regulation of loudness in Sonata?01:40
CraZy675how do i figure out which device my mic is? (ex. hw:0,0)01:40
stefg!lvm | jayde_drag0n01:40
ubotujayde_drag0n: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO01:40
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Dubimaxjordan:  Can you help me do that?  WILL IT SOLVE THE PROBLEM?01:40
Jordan_UDubimax, The "open in windows media player" link works if you copy it into VLC01:41
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DubimaxJORDAN: OK,  hOW DO i GO IT.  ALL THIS IS NEW TO ME  WHAT IS vlc01:41
Pici!caps | Dubimax01:41
ubotuDubimax: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.01:41
Jordan_UDubimax, It will not solve your problem but it is generally much easier and more up to date01:42
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ansqueAnybody knows can how solve?01:42
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CraZy675vlc is the greatest video player ever01:42
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jayde_drag0nstefg: okay yeay.. more alien language!!! how about just typing some commands to format those drives and cliicking install on the screen?01:42
Lorne_Kun|Laptophmmm01:42
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Lorne_Kun|Laptopcan installing windows xp mess up grub even if the drive that grub is on is unplugged during the windows install?01:42
Jordan_UDubimax, Applications -> Add/remove search for vlc01:42
dougalbhi, has anybody noticed that firefox on fiesty always opens new windows and not to new tabs01:42
dougalbmy windows firefox opens the same links as tabs01:42
Jordan_ULorne_Kun|Laptop, No01:42
stefgjayde_drag0n: no lvm install on Desktop CD... you need the alternate installer01:42
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DubimaxJordan:  Ok.  I will try.01:43
Picidougalb: check your tab options, this is configurable01:43
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Picidougalb: its something like "Open new windows as tabs"01:43
dougalbpici: i checked the settings and it is set to tabs.. i also checked in about:config and it is set to 301:43
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ansquewhy in my sonata player i can't regular loudness?01:43
Lorne_Kun|Laptopbecause i unplugged the drive that grub is on (the drive that has ubuntu on it) during my xp install, but now i get "Grub loading stage 1.5"ReadError01:43
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dougalbpici: i am using fresh fiesty install with no add ons01:43
Lorne_Kun|Laptopcuriouser and curioser, ne?01:44
stefgjayde_drag0n: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LVMOnRaid01:44
Jordan_ULorne_Kun|Laptop, My guess is that you didn't plug it back in the same place ;)01:44
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Lorne_Kun|Laptopbut i did...01:44
jayde_drag0nstefg: i don't want a different flavor of linux tho... i want ubuntu.. it WAS working... i just want to make it work again01:44
Lorne_Kun|Laptopbecause all i did was unplug the power >.>01:44
CraZy675how do i figure out what device my mic is? (ex. hw:0,0)01:44
Paddy_EIREis it normal for firefox to be crashing alot01:44
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Picidougalb: hmm.01:44
Dubimaxjordan:  I did what you said and it says that it cannot find vlc01:45
Jack_SparrowLorne_Kun|Laptop: why did you unplug the ub drive for the xp install01:45
CraZy675firefox never crashes for me01:45
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jayde_drag0nstefg: or are you saying ubuntu cannot format drives?01:45
KreamHi all01:45
stefgjayde_drag0n: it's still exactly the same ubuntu, just installed in a different way01:45
IntuitiveNippleLorne_Kun|Laptop: Have you altered the boot-order in BIOS settings?01:45
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Kreamhow do i get ntpd to start up on every boot ?01:45
Paddy_EIREwhile running beryl I mean01:45
Picidougalb: I dont have a fiesty install in front of me to test with.01:45
dougalbpici: it is a weird one... it is behaving a little different than the windows setup01:45
dougalbpici: no worries01:45
dougalba good test site is www.linux.org01:45
Lorne_Kun|LaptopJack_Sparrow: because its the drive that windows wanted to install ITS boot loader too01:45
dougalbthe new news section01:46
Jordan_UDubimax, Make sure that in the top right you have "show all available applications" selected01:46
stefgjayde_drag0n: and now you have the chance to clean up. you'll regret if you don't do it now at a later time01:46
dougalbit has a new window link01:46
Lorne_Kun|LaptopIntuitiveNipple: i put it back to the way it was when ubuntu was the only OS01:46
Dubimaxjordan: I did!!!01:46
fenrighi01:46
dougalbon windows it goes to a tab and on fiesty it goes to a new window01:46
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fenrigwhats the difference between the cups expert driver and the cups simple driver?01:46
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jayde_drag0nstefg: that is all waaaaaay to above my head. and too complicated for me to think about... especially if it means noone will help me because thats just too mucyh typing to walk me thru01:46
Jack_SparrowLorne_Kun|Laptop: Sorry to come in late on this.. I take it you now do not have access to grub and ubuntu01:46
jayde_drag0nstefg: or that the can't walk me thru it01:47
Lorne_Kun|Laptopcorrect01:47
IntuitiveNippleLorne_Kun|Laptop: Have you booted from the LiveCD and inspected grub's /boot/grub/menu.list to check the hd(x,y) settings match the current config?01:47
Jordan_UDubimax, Go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and enable universe01:47
munckfishHi I notice that the Jetty packages are supposed to be in Feisty (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jetty/) but I'm searching in Apt and I can't find it. I have multiverse enabled in my source.list.01:47
ansqueJack_Sparoow: maybe you know why i can't reguar loudness in my sonata player?01:47
jayde_drag0nstefg: i either need simple... or a step by step walkthru for my system01:47
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munckfishany idea why it's not showing up?01:47
yinghaoi love ion301:47
fenrighi01:47
Jack_Sparrowansque: Just waking up.. but I am helping him at the moment01:47
Dubimaxjordan: Thanks.  I will try01:47
CraZy675how do i figure out what device my mic is? (ex. hw:0,0) << is this question not clear?01:48
Kreamhow do i get ntpd to start up on every boot ?01:48
Lorne_Kun|Laptopnot yet, i just wanted to check here first, IntuitiveNipple01:48
fenrigwhat is the difference between a cups gutenprint simple driver and a cups gutenprint expert driver?01:48
ansqueJack_Sparrow: ok, I wait01:48
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ThursleyKream: it might have it's own options in the configuratin file, but you could also use crontab (man crontab and /etc/crontab)01:48
IntuitiveNippleLorne_Kun|Laptop: Well from what you've said you've affected the drive-recognition order since installing Ubuntu, so you need to examine what is set versus what is *in effect*01:48
Lorne_Kun|Laptopokie dokie...01:49
Jack_SparrowLorne_Kun|Laptop: SO it dosent have grub in the mbr...01:49
Lorne_Kun|Laptopi think grub is confused because i have 2 hard drives that are both primary master ;)01:49
Lorne_Kun|Laptopone is sata and one is pata :P01:49
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Jack_SparrowLorne_Kun|Laptop: Have you gone through the instructions for repairing grub after installing windows?01:50
KreamThursley:  thanks, ntp.conf is the configuration file for ntpd, /etc/default/ntp has no setting like other scripts do with something like NTPD_ENABLE=true|false01:50
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SlimeyPeteyeah, ubuntu's grub configurator doesn't cope with PATA/SATA mixes01:50
jayde_drag0nstefg: you still there?01:50
zaggynlHi, does anyone know how I can play dvd's over smb? I've already got a smb shortcut at my desktop, but I have no clue how to reach it with vlc01:50
stefgjayde_drag0n: you have a complex system there, so nothing is going to make a complex setup easy. There's a lot of learning and reading docu involved to get things right, noone can do the homework for you. so the trouble you are in (non-booting system) needs a cure on the root to avoid further complications, just trying to 'make it work somehow' will result in future trouble01:50
Lorne_Kun|Laptopnot yet, i didnt think i'd need to because the drive that it, and ubuntu is on were unplugged during the windows install.01:50
Lorne_Kun|Laptopone sec, going mobile downstairs to the pc01:51
Jack_SparrowLorne_Kun|Laptop: You should have left it connected01:51
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T-ConnectSleep01:51
jayde_drag0nstefg: so basically my system is soo complex... i have no help... i'm screwed until i master it all?01:51
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max01hi ive seen a screen print of ubuntu desktop could anyone give me the name of this app?01:51
max01vncviewer - Virtual network computing client software for X01:51
max01opse01:51
Kreamdoes anyone here have ntpd running on their server and have it starting up at boot ?01:51
Dubimaxjordan,  there is no software sources (I am using 6.06)  only software properties in adminstration01:51
max01http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6681/220107gq0.png01:51
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Lorne_Kun|LaptopJack_Sparrow, would it be easier to copy ubuntu onto another PATA drive so i dont have to cope with a sata/pata mixture?01:52
max01the one in the bottom left corner01:52
Picimax01: in the lower left? Thats conky01:52
max01ah thank you pici :)01:52
IntuitiveNippleObviously grub is being read from the drive correctly, but the references to the location of the root() for the default kernel needs altering to match the dual-drive configuration01:52
Jack_SparrowLorne_Kun|Laptop: I have never mixed those but I cant see that it matters that much.01:52
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Jordan_U@lart max01 for that desktop background01:52
ThursleyKream: use crontab then: "man 5 crontab" , it has a @reboot option01:52
blownose-if i have tv-out on my ati x600 how do i activate it  in feisty?01:52
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stefgjayde_drag0n: you're screwd unlees you recognize: i'll have to learn to master a complex system01:53
Kreami'm a bit uncomfortable starting an initscript from cron01:53
jayde_drag0nstefg: 2 days using ubuntu linux and i'm told sorry newbie.. we know you have no idea how to use these commands... even tho you've used windows forever and aren't a complete idiot... but we can't help you... figure it out on you own?01:53
Jack_SparrowLorne_Kun|Laptop: It looks like you need to get grub into the mbr of the windows drive ... was that drive in place when you installed ubuntu01:53
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Lorne_Kun|Laptopyep01:53
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Lorne_Kun|Laptopit was01:53
max01grr conky isnt listed under apt-cache search01:53
max01is it for kde?01:53
jayde_drag0nstefg: but what you are telling me is i have to BE a msater before i can ever yse it01:53
jayde_drag0nuse01:54
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Kreamjayde_drag0n:  what seems to be the problem ?01:54
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Jack_Sparrowjayde_drag0n: that is not true01:54
mattfletchermax01: i see it under an apt-cache search01:54
max01ill edit my apt source then01:54
max01:|01:55
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stefgjayde_drag0n: we're drifting into philosophical issues now. Linux is not windows, you have to learn to do things the Linux way. If you want it simple, rip aout all disks but one, install to that, tehn add the others one by one and see how they get added01:55
Dubimaxjordan:  are you still there?01:55
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xoRockneed help, how to check *.iso?01:55
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Jack_Sparrowjayde_drag0n: Please define your problem , ask your question.  The better the question the better your answer01:55
Jordan_UDubimax, Yes01:55
Sonicadvance1oi, the command line says "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave" is there anyway to fix that without restarting?01:55
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xoRockmd5sum -c name.iso?01:55
Lorne_Kun|Laptopok note to self. do not walk around in the dark, especiall on stairs01:56
Lorne_Kun|Laptopi just about fell and dropped my $3000 laptop down the stairs :P01:56
mattfletchermax01: actually i see it under a dapper machine, not got anything newer handy to check01:56
IntuitiveNippleIt might help if you do that to the other PC :p01:56
Jack_SparrowLorne_Kun|Laptop: Can you give me a minute to start a pot of coffee?01:56
Dubimaxjordan:  I did not see software sources in admin.  Should I upgrade to Fiesto before going further?01:56
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Lorne_Kun|LaptopJack_Sparrow can this be fixed by manually editing grub's boot list?01:57
Jack_SparrowLorne_Kun|Laptop: that and instlling grub into the mbr yes01:57
IntuitiveNippleLorne_Kun|Laptop: Can you boot the problem PC from a LiveCD ? then we can give you some informed solutions to try01:57
Lorne_Kun|Laptopthat comp doesnt like the live cd :P01:57
jayde_drag0nstefg: i am trying to learn.. that is why i am here... i lean by doing.. i do not learn by reading (especially if its in another language to me) i cannot learn how to do it if you just trow me into shark infested water not knowing how to swim... i need some direction... not being told that i have to learn it all before i ever do it in the first place01:58
Jordan_UDubimax, It would make things a lot easier, and if you havn't done much configuring it might be faster to simply install Feisty than upgrade to Edgy then Feisty01:58
ariczHi, I have 1 CD-rom (it's dead) and 1 DVD-rom (it's alive).. how do I mount it? what in /dev do I mount?01:58
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jayde_drag0nstefg: i have learned the sudo command and what it does.... by doing... niot by reading the command on a forum so,mewhere01:58
Jordan_ULorne_Kun|Laptop, Doesn't like X on the LiveCD or is it more than that?01:58
jayde_drag0nstefg: by having someone take the imte and patience to show me what tio type.. and then tell me what i just did and what it means01:58
Lorne_Kun|Laptophangs because of the sata / pata thing01:58
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Lorne_Kun|Laptopi can only get it to boot if i disable one of the pata controllers01:59
Dubimaxjodan:  Is it possible to do from the internet w/o having a cd?  I used a cd to install 6.0601:59
Lorne_Kun|Laptopof course... my other option is to not use my sata drive at all and put it into a handy dandy enclosure ;)01:59
Jordan_ULorne_Kun|Laptop, Try knoppix, it's pretty robust about strange hardware configs01:59
jayde_drag0nstefg: i feel like i'm being thrown into a land with a fireing language... and no possibilty of an interpereter01:59
IntuitiveNippleLorne_Kun|Laptop: The "stage 1.5" error means that GRUB loads from the MBR correctly, but then cannot find the additional helper code in the first track of the disk, which suggests it has either gone missing, or grub is looking on the wrong disk02:00
jayde_drag0nstefg: foreign02:00
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stefgjayde_drag0n: no problem... look for the commercial support from canonical. Or accept that learning has something to do with reading docu, trying things out, failing and trying again02:00
Lorne_Kun|Laptopokie dokie :)02:00
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Jordan_Ujayde_drag0n, Warum wurden Sie dass denken ? ;)02:00
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Dubimaxjordan:  Is it possible to do from the internet w/o having a cd?  I used a cd to install 6.0602:00
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martyyyrWhat do I do when ifconfig only outputs eth1, but not eth0?02:00
d4rkmonkey!gutsy02:00
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stefgjayde_drag0n: so do a friggin alternat install, and don't be scared of a text-mode, because there is no pointer and nothing to click on02:00
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jayde_drag0nstefg: i'm not afraid of the tex... i'm afraid of having to read war and peace before i can even type one line!02:01
Jordan_UDubimax, Yes, but you will have to upgrade to Edgy then to Feisty, which will require twice the downloading02:01
julosalut02:01
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stefgjayde_drag0n: you'll not have to read war and peace, but approx. the same amount of lines in lvm docu :-)02:02
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stefgjayde_drag0n: or forum posts02:02
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juloj'ai un problme avec upstart: j'ai cr un script, et  l'amorage du  j'obtiens l'erreur "unable to read: Invalid argument" au lancement du script. Par contre, si je lance ce script  la main, a marche.02:02
Dubimaxjordan:  ok.  I will do it one step at a time and then look for vlc and then it will be compatiible with windows media player, correct?02:02
kagemarojayde_drag0n - I've barely read any docu and I have a working Ubuntu install after 24 hours02:02
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martyyyrWhat to do when ifconfig only shows eth1, not eth0?02:03
Kreamjayde_drag0n:  can you tell me what you're having problems with?02:03
riberyhi all02:03
Kreamhi ribery02:03
ThursleyKream: There is probably a better way, but this should work: "echo '@reboot ntpd -optionsHere' >> /etc/crontab"02:03
jayde_drag0nkagemaro: i'm working on 30hrs and have been told i have to go read this first http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ to install my system.. and that also i will not recieve any help if i do not understand something02:03
kagemarohi02:03
ariczasdf02:03
Jordan_UDubimax, I don't think you need to upgrade just to get vlc, I still recommend upgrading though02:03
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kagemarojayde_drag0n - Can't you just install straight off the liveCD?02:04
kagemarojayde_drag0n - it's a very straightforward process02:04
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jayde_drag0nkagemaro: yah i know.. i've been told i cannot02:04
jayde_drag0nkagemaroo: i did it right the  first time.. i had problems.. now i'm here02:04
joelhi02:04
Jack_Sparrowjayde_drag0n: This is not a discussion room on how you like to learn...  We are here to answer questions and help people ...  You WILL need to read instructions if we type it here in channel or have posted it to the wiki...02:04
stefgjayde_drag0n: here's something http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning02:05
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kagemarojayde_drag0n - What are the problems?02:05
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jayde_drag0nkream: i have 4 harddrives... i just want to format them all to linux and install ubuntu02:05
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Dubimaxjordan:  It makes more sense then to get vlc and try it out (will build my confidence) and when I have more time I will upgrade but HOW DO I GET VLC???02:05
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jayde_drag0nkream: so that i have read write access to them all02:05
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Kreamjayde_drag0n:   formatting  occurs during the installation procedure.can you be more specific ?02:05
kagemarojayde_drag0n - Would it not be simpler to remove all except your / hard drive and then format/mount others later?02:05
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Kreamjayde_drag0n:  what are you having problems with ?02:05
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jayde_drag0nkream: ugh i cannot talk anymore.. i need sleep... i'm already crying.. i've been working on this for over 30 i need sleep i have to goto work in 4 hrs02:06
Dubimaxjordan:  It makes more sense then to get vlc and try it out (will build my confidence) and when I have more time I will upgrade but HOW DO I GET VLC???02:06
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jayde_drag0nkream... and thanks to stefg.. i'm ending on the ":i'm sorry noone will help you... go read this http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/  and do it yourself"02:07
Jack_Sparrowjayde_drag0n: Seems simple enough.. Install Ubuntu on the first drive, then use Ubuntu's GGnome Partitioner to partition and format the other drives as you want02:07
IntuitiveNipplejayde_drag0n: Install Ubuntu from LiveCD, when it starts, use System -> Administration -> GNOME Partition Editor to format your other drives.02:07
Kreamjayde_drag0n:  a friendly piece of advice from someone who's been where you are often. Take a deep breath, take a break. try and do something completely different. sleep. and then come back and attack the problem again.02:07
padeehi everyone... any bookkeeping gurus here? ive got troubles with sql-ledger...02:07
Jordan_UDubimax, run "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"02:07
martyyyrWhat could be the cause for eth0 not showing up?02:07
jayde_drag0nintuitivenipple:   couldn't that person have said that in the first place???02:07
kagemaroTrust me jayde_drag0n - took me absolutely hours to sort out my soundcard problem, but it's worth it in the end02:08
Kreammartyyyr:  is the network card detected by dmesg ? do dmesg | grep eth to see if it shows up. second, do lspci and see if the card shows up there02:08
martyyyrKream: it shows up in both02:08
xoRockjayde_drag0n, what is your gender?02:08
jayde_drag0ni'm a girl02:08
Dubimaxjordan:  How to I run it?  never done it in linux.02:09
xoRockah as i guest02:09
ariczhaha02:09
joelHi can any1 help me with a problem i have? It's kind of annoying, you see I cant connect to anny ubuntu server, I cant vissit http://ubuntu.com and with update manager and synaptic it just fails and says it cant find archive.ubuntu.com02:09
jayde_drag0na girl whos been working with windows for many years02:09
KreamxoRock:  that doesn't have anything to do :P02:09
Kreamwith it02:09
IntuitiveNipplejayde_drag0n: Your questions were confusing the issue... I'm only guessing this is the solution that will address your issue.02:09
jayde_drag0ni'm not an idiot in winows02:09
xoRockget some rest and continue tommorow after u got spare time :)02:09
jayde_drag0ni'm totally okay with being an idiot here02:09
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Jordan_UDubimax, Hit alt+f2 to get a run dialog or open a terminal02:09
Kreammartyyyr:  all right. what is it detected as in the dmesg output ?02:09
jayde_drag0nthis isn't my baliwick... i'm okay with being a newbie.. but that personm was just being mean02:09
kagemaroIts not easy coming from w32 to *nix02:10
jayde_drag0ni asked stefg to proved me with a simple answer02:10
kagemaroI've been using BSD based operating systems for years and I still get issues02:10
jayde_drag0nthat i wasn't ready to read war anddpeace without help to do what i thought could be done simply02:10
jayde_drag0nand thanks to intuitivenipple02:10
jayde_drag0ni was right02:10
jayde_drag0nthat person just refused to tell me02:10
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Jack_Sparrowjayde_drag0n: Dont judge the room by any one or two people, we all have our days..  But please stop with the discussion.. With 1000+ people here it does not help02:11
sunkenjayde_drag0n: to bad02:11
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martyyyrKream: Well, I have 2 network cards. eth1 is a realtek, which works perfectly. eth0 is a Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21041 [tulip pass3] 02:11
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martyyyrKream: however, in dmesg, eth0 is displayed as "21041" , without the rest its name02:11
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jayde_drag0nokay SO before i goto sleep... the job is to just finish my file transferr... then just run the installer.. and boot into ubuntu... when i'm in go into system>administration> gnome partition manager and format them02:12
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Jordan_UDubimax, Is the file open?02:12
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IntuitiveNipplejayde_drag0n: I agree with everything stefg told you. The golden rule is to RTFM, and follow the links suggested02:12
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ariczHi, can anyone help me trying to get my DVD-rom working? In /etc/fstab it says : "/dev/hdc  /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto" and "/dev/hdd  /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto" .. anything wrong there? And, when I try to 'sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom1' or 'sudo mount /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1" I get the following error-message: "mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist". Anyone know how I should go on figuring this out? Help would b02:13
Jack_Sparrowjayde_drag0n: Yes, you can do it live or after you have finished installing from the cd..02:13
Kreamjayde_drag0n:  unless you HAVE to install it, go to sleep now. sleep dep+tech obstacle+LVM=not good02:13
kagemaroIntuitiveNipple - sometimes it's easier just to tell people the answer, instead of sending them trawling through libraries02:13
jayde_drag0nintuitivenipple: why couldn't stefg tell me i could just install and use gnome partiioner?02:13
kagemaroWhich is what it sounds like stefg did02:13
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jurp5hi02:13
Jack_Sparrowjayde_drag0n: Agreed, get some rest, the process will take awhile02:13
sunkenjayde_drag0n: perhaps you need to install gnome partition manager02:14
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jurp5i cant get bluetooth to work02:14
jayde_drag0nsunken: i have it02:14
Jack_Sparrowjayde_drag0n: Did you consider he may not have known or understood what you were trying to do..02:14
Jack_Sparrow!attitude02:14
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sunkenjayde_drag0n: mkey02:14
martyyyrKream: any suggestions?02:14
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Kreammartyyyr:  hmm okay. when you do lspci, you will get something like 02:01.0  Ethernet controller:02:14
Dubimaxjordan:  I got the file with a lot of signs ## and # lat starts of lines.  What next?02:14
jurp5having changed security user to security auto02:14
Kreamand since you have 2 cards, you'll also get something like 03:08.0 Ethernet controller02:14
Jordan_UDubimax, add this in a new line at the bottom ( without the quotes ) "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"02:15
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Kreamright ?02:15
jurp5but pairing still wont work02:15
martyyyrKream: right.02:15
berentcan i change permissions of cd - r to cd-rw02:15
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Thursleymartyyyr: what does "lsmod " grep de2104x" give you?02:15
Kreammartyyyr:  so you know which number refers to the realtek one and which one to the dec one.02:15
Thursleysorry lsmod | grep de2104x02:15
jurp5hidd --connect bl:ah:bl:ah..02:15
Kreammartyyyr:  do lspci -n ... which will give you plain numbers without the translation02:15
Jack_Sparrowberent: Do you have a cd-rw drive with a rw disk in it?02:15
jurp5gives an error message after entering pin code02:16
jurp5Can't create HID control channel: Connection refused02:16
jayde_drag0nintuitivenipple: i just didn't want to be in the dark and on my own for something that if i screwed up i had no help from.. or even a computer left to look up the answers on.. its why i chose ubuntu in the fiorst place.... gloris reviews on how helpful the community was to newbies ... and everything02:16
Lorne_Kun|Laptopmy ubuntu install is essentially fresh, would i just be farther ahead to reinstall?02:16
martyyyrThursley, Kream: Checking both now.02:16
berentJack_SParrow i have a cd/dvd-rw drive with a r disk in it.02:16
Lorne_Kun|Laptopit only takes like 15 minutes :p02:16
Kreamthere'll be 2 sets of 4 numbers separated by a :02:16
HEP85!gtk02:16
ubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI02:16
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Jordan_UDubimax, Then save the file02:16
Kreamtell us the numbers for the dec card02:16
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Jordan_UDubimax, This is easy to do in the GUI but I am lazy so just copy and paste this into a terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc"02:16
UtopianHey! Anybody knows where Konsole saves bookmarks?02:16
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Jack_Sparrowberent: are you trying to burn a cd?02:17
IntuitiveNipplejayde_drag0n: That is the beauty of the LiveCD - you have a fully funtioning Ubuntu to work from without touching your hard drive02:17
jurp5Utopian: maby in the .kde dir?02:17
berentJack_SParrow yes . but why should it not become read and write and overwrite02:17
royelLorne_Kun|Laptop: depends on the problem you have02:17
martyyyrThursley: it gives me a number: 2483202:18
martyyyrKream: I get a list of address, or so it seems.02:18
Jack_Sparrowbrent: cd-r means it is burn once disk02:18
martyyyrKream: which numbe do you mean exactly?02:18
Lorne_Kun|Laptopwell i installed windows after ubuntu, and it messed up grub somehow... i think it may also be related to having windows on a pata disk and ubuntu on a sata disk02:18
Lorne_Kun|Laptopso what i was going to do is install so that both os-es are on pata drives02:18
martyyyrKream: 1011:0014  is this it?02:18
royel!grub | Lorne_Kun|Laptop02:18
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Jack_SparrowLorne_Kun|Laptop: leave everything connected and reinstall ubuntu02:18
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Kreamlooks like it :)02:19
berentJack_SParrow what really happens. does it burn so badly that you can't burn it anymore02:19
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Dubimaxjordan:  I did it and it worked and then I went back to add programs and it ave me many more but when I looked for vlc the monkey was still not there.02:19
zaggynlAnyone knows how to play a DVD over smb?02:20
Kreammartyyyr:  go to http://rom-o-matic.net/5.4.3/etherboot-5.4.3/src/bin/NIC , which has a huge list of NIC PCI ids and find the entry where 1011 and 0014 are in the same line02:20
Jack_Sparrowberent: I am going to go get coffee..  cdr are burn once.. rw can read write and reformat-erase but they are more money..02:20
martyyyrKream: On my way.02:20
jayde_drag0nintuitivenipple: ok from what i've understood to this point .. if i format themm.. i format them to ext3?02:20
Jordan_UDubimax, VLC should be installed ( that was the second part of the command I gave )02:20
jurp5someone who knows a solution for my bluetooth problem?02:20
berenti know that. go get your coffee02:20
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martyyyrKream:  dc210410x1011,0x0014Digital Tulip+02:21
Kreamexcellent.02:21
Kreamnow that shoudl be in a para for something like drivers/net/XXXX - what's the XXXX ?02:21
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Kreamsometimes, its' startlingly different02:22
kidbuntupls help me. i'm having trouble with my mouse sensitivity after updating my ubuntu 7.0402:22
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Kreamfrom the maker of the card02:22
martyyyrKream: You mean the name of that " section"? familydrivers/net/tulip?02:22
Kreamahh yes02:22
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Kreamso its confirmed that you need to  load tulip02:22
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Jack_Sparrowjayde_drag0n: yes, format to ext302:22
frogzookidbuntu: sys -> prefs -> keyboard02:22
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Dubimaxjordan:  Do you mean it is already installed?  I do not understand.   And can you direct me how to make the actual media players sound to play?02:22
Kreamdo lsmod  | grep tulip02:23
kidbuntufrogzoo: whats with keyboard?02:23
frogzookidbuntu: sys -> prefs -> mouse (my bad)02:23
martyyyrKream: k, one moment (the pc is in another room)02:23
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kidbuntufrogzoo: that doesnt work for me. adjusting it makes no changes at all.02:23
frogzookidbuntu: oh no it is there - under accessibility02:23
Jordan_UDubimax, Go to Applications -> Sound And Video -> VLC media player02:23
jayde_drag0nthanks everyone... i'm going to sleep now02:23
frogzookidbuntu: sys -> prefs -> keyboard ->accessibility02:23
Jack_Sparrowjayde_drag0n: If I may... do not format the drive you intend to install ubuntu on.. it is easier to leave it unformatted-partitioned and let the installer do it02:23
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Jordan_UDubimax, Then go to File -> Open Network Stream02:24
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Dubimaxjordan:  I went there but it is still not there:  Maybe I missed sometthing.  All I dd was to copy the line:02:25
ariczHi, can anyone help me mounting my DVD-rom? I can't mount it, it says special device /dev/hdd does not exist..02:25
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Jordan_UDubimax, And at the bottom put http://www.radiosai.org/Pages/AfriStream.asx as the URL02:25
Dubimaxjoran: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe02:25
ariczIt has worked earlier, but for some reason it doesn't work anymore..02:25
Jordan_UDubimax, Did you run the commands I told you to run in the terminal?02:25
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martyyyrKream: no results.02:25
Jordan_UDubimax, This is easy to do in the GUI but I am lazy so just copy and paste this into a terminal then hit enter "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc"02:26
martyyyrKream: It just gives me nothing, at all.02:26
kidbuntufrogzoo: adjusting doesnt make any changes at all.02:27
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Kreammartyyyr:  ok, that means that the tulip module is not loaded. load it by doing sudo modprobe tulip. once lthat command finishes, do dmesg and look right at the bottom to see which network interface (ethx) the card has been detected as. if it all works fine, you'll have to edit /etc/modules and in a fresh line, enter tulip. and of course you'll have to assign IP address or set it up for DHCP as appropriate02:27
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kidbuntufrogzoo: and also. my alt tab doesn't work anymore02:28
martyyyrKream: ok.02:28
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kaushalHi02:28
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Kreami gave you this block of text because i have to go02:28
kaushalI want to capture HTTPS Traffic using tcpdump command02:28
Kreamkaushal, hi :) namaste02:28
Kreamkaushal:  google for tcpdump syntax02:28
DubimaxI thought I did.  I have a window that says terminal at the top.  Please be pateint with me.  I am learning but slowly02:28
martyyyrKream: Well, ok...thanks for your help!02:28
Kreamand tcpdump newbie02:28
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kaushaltcpdump -i eth0 -s 0 -w dump host 192.168.0.1 and host 192.168.0.2 and port 44302:29
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Kreammartyyyr:  you're welcome. Share and Enjoy.02:29
fevelhow do I configure my network card to set only ip from dhcp. I have 2 networks and one is static ip, I wnt to add the opendns servers and use them for both dhcp and static, but dhcp changes my dns02:29
kaushalis that correct02:29
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Dubimaxjordan:  I thought I did.  I have a window that says terminal at the top.  Please be pateint with me.  I am learning but slowly   maybe the mistake was that I checked the box run in terminal?02:30
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berentif i am burning a iso image into a cd. should it have only iso image for botting or anything else can be accomodated?02:31
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Jack_Sparrowberent: iso would need to be modified before burning to add things02:32
Jordan_UDubimax, Do you see any output in the terminal?02:32
Jack_Sparrowberent: Are you in ubuntu at the moment or windows02:32
berentJack_Sparrow : ubuntu02:32
Jordan_Uberent, You only need to burn from the iso02:32
Jack_Sparrowberent: What are you wanting to add?02:33
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Jack_Sparrowwhat iso are you wanting to burn?02:33
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Jack_Sparrowberent: TO burn an iso just right click the iso and write to disk.02:33
berentJordan_U Jack_Sparrow : the image is only 70MB. and once i burn rest of cd is a waste. i am planning puppy linux02:33
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GD77o.O02:34
Jack_Sparrowberent: Then you will need to brush up on remastering an iso..02:34
GD77evening02:34
Jordan_Uberent, You can write more to it, in fact I think puppy linux has a write as you go feature02:34
GD77just installed unbuntu desktop 10 on vmware, it made a username but did not ask about a root pass so how can i config my root pass?02:35
Jack_Sparrow!root02:35
ubotudo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo02:35
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Dubimaxjordan:  here is what i did.  I presssed Alt F2 then check the box run in terminal the command that you first told me (I forgot what it was)  then I got a file and added a line w/o quotes and clicked save.  That was it.  Did I miss anything?  There is no output in the terminal.  Please advice :)02:35
GD77ok excuses i come from centos and fedora hehe02:35
stefg!root | GD7702:35
ubotuGD77: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo02:35
berentJordan_U Jack_Sparrow : please explain. if i add other things into it and then burn it in then how will i boot.02:35
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GD77those are configured upon installation02:35
GD77ok02:36
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jasiuhi02:36
Jack_Sparrowberent: In remastering it you leave the boot-ability alone and add files as you want.02:36
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jasiuhow can i change startbutton??02:36
Dubimaxjordan:  here is what i did.  I presssed Alt F2 then check the box run in terminal the command that you first told me (I forgot what it was)  then I got a file and added a line w/o quotes and clicked save.  That was it.  Did I miss anything?02:36
martyyyrIs it a bad thing if eth0 doesn't show up if I do "ifconfig", but does when I do "ifconfig eth0"? I mean, that's not supposed to happen, is it?02:37
joey_LiuHow to keep resolv.conf from rewrite by dhcp?02:37
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jasiuHI !! HOW CAN I CHANGE THE STARTBUTTON??02:38
Jack_Sparrowberent: I dont know about puppy linux but that dosent matter as until you create and run puppy linux it has no effect02:38
Thursleymartyyyr: ifup eth002:38
Jack_Sparrowjasiu: Are you using Kubuntu?02:38
HEP85martyyyr: this usually happen when the device is there but not configured02:38
Thursleymartyyyr: it just means the interface hasn't been brought up yet02:38
jasiuubuntu02:38
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jasiugnome02:38
Jack_Sparrowjasiu: Start Button?02:38
jasiumenu02:39
Dubimaxjordan:  Are you there?02:39
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jasiuyes02:39
martyyyrThursley: that command gives me "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"02:39
Jack_Sparrowjasiu: Where it says applications?02:39
martyyyrHEP85: How do I configure it?02:39
jasiuyes02:39
Thursleymartyyyr: what about "ifconfig eth0 up" ?02:40
HEP85martyyyr: do what Thursley said02:40
berent!remastering02:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remastering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:40
ariczAhhh, can anyone please help me with mounting my DVD-rom ? I can't find anything in /dev .. dmesg doesn't give me anything.. /etc/fstab shows I have 2 cd-roms dvd-roms.. anyone know how I should do this?02:40
dissectionHow do I kill all instances of firefox, from the terminal?02:40
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stefgsudo killall firefox02:41
Jack_Sparrowberent: In windows I use a product called ultra ISO, even though the program is not what you can use the info there will help you understand remastering..02:41
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gbwhello, how can i mount from a samba server?02:41
stefg!samba02:41
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:41
martyyyrThursley, HEP85: That seems to work, I think. (The LED of my NIC just turned on and it shows up when I type ifconfig now). What did I just do, tho?02:41
dissectionstefg: It says no process killed.02:41
HEP85martyyyr: you just activated it02:41
Thursleymartyyyr: you told ifconfig to bring up the device. Kream showed you how to find the right module for it to use and install that02:42
Jordan_UDubimax, Yes, I'm back02:42
martyyyrHEP85: Please tell me I don't have to do that every time my system boots..02:42
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stefgdissection: sudo killall firefox-bin02:42
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Jack_Sparrowjasiu: If you are trying to make it an icon or something I dont know what will do that.. there is the gconf-editor but not sure that is going to do what you want02:42
martyyyrThursley: Yeah, he did.. it's starting to make sense now.02:42
Thursleymartyyyr: you will have to add flower to the modules being loaded as he said. /etc/modules02:42
jasiuyes02:43
Thursleyflower = tulip -.-02:43
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chadeldridgegood morning everyone02:43
jasiui want to change icon of my menu02:43
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DubimaxJordan:  here is what i did.  I presssed Alt F2 then check the box run in terminal the command that you first told me (I forgot what it was)  then I got a file and added a line w/o quotes and clicked save.  That was it.  Did I miss anything?02:43
jasiuahh02:43
jasiuok02:43
jasiubye02:43
jasiuthx02:43
martyyyrThursley: lol, nice mistake :)  Anyway, so if I have tulip in the modules file, everything will be fine from now on?02:43
HEP85martyyyr: normally the script in /etc/init.d/networking should do this at bootup02:43
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dissectionstefg: That worked, thanks.02:44
Thursleymartyyyr: you will also have to check the settings for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces02:44
chadeldridgedoes anyone have nagios installed or know about the check_snmp module?02:44
Jordan_UDubimax, Yes, you now need to run this in a terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc"02:44
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Sleeperhi02:45
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Bassettswhat do I need to install to get mp3,mov,wma,wmv,dvd,flash,aac,real player all working in totem-xine02:45
Dubimaxjordan:  I will do this and report.  This chat list is huge. Is there a way to see just what you wrote to me so I review and maybe help others one day?02:45
martyyyrThursley: Ok, I think I can handle that. Thanks!02:45
Jordan_UBassetts, Why are you using totem-xine?02:45
martyyyrand HEP85: thanks to you too.02:46
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Thursleymartyyyr: you are welcome, but Kream did all the hardwork ;)02:46
BassettsJordan_U, it seems to work better than totem-gstreamer02:46
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HEP85martyyyr: no problem02:46
martyyyrThursley: That may be true, but without your and HEP85's info I would still be stuck :)02:46
Jack_SparrowDubimax: FYI, I keep a notepad open and copy good ideas into it all the time and have it as a reference02:46
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Jordan_UDubimax, You can search for my name in the logs02:47
Jack_SparrowSeoke: try and sell your copy of XP..:)02:47
berentJordan_U Jack_Sparrow : i am planning to buy a dvd-rw  for all my cd/dvd rw purpose. i am confused about the speeds . i have a 20x DVD+R DL RW drive . how many should i go for and which company is the best.02:47
SeokeJack_Sparrow: You mean my ripped copy? xDD02:47
tograny numpy experts here?02:47
frogzoo!anyone | togr02:48
ubotutogr: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?02:48
Jordan_Uberent, No idea :)02:48
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Jack_Sparrowberent: Havent found any best, I do love my Plextor over my others.. but best is very subjective02:48
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togrthanks, frogzoo but if there is a more python-related channel, I would go there02:48
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Dubimaxjordan:  It seems to be installing right now.  I will let u know02:49
togrI want to know how numpy.logical_and is supposed to behave for >2 inputs02:49
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togrright now I have02:50
togrnp.logical_and(ar([True, False] ), ar([True, True] ), ar([False, True] ))02:50
BassettsJordan_U, it seems to work better than totem-gstreamer02:50
togr-> array([True, False] , dtype=bool)02:50
Bassettswhat do I need to install to get mp3,mov,wma,wmv,dvd,flash,aac,real player all working02:50
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togrand I cannot for the life of me see how that would be correct02:51
Jack_Sparrow!restricted > Bassetts02:51
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BassettsJack_Sparrow, that does not seem to cover mp3 for feisty02:51
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sniff_when network line too slow, my eth0 was droped. any fix?02:51
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JohtoBassetts: some gstreamer stuff02:52
Jack_SparrowBassetts: There is a link on that link to the mp3 specific page02:52
JohtoBassetts: codec stuff, check the ubuntuguides02:52
hamzahey guys any one know how to run a DVD???? totem player says codec needed??02:52
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dsgIs anyone familiar with the development of the webcam driver m560x ? Its seems to have been going on since 2005 and still new laptops today are shipped with those cams, seems weird nobody has got a working driver yet -_-02:52
JohtoBassetts: tehre are whole guide section for those media formats02:52
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genii!codecs02:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:53
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hamzahey guys any one know how to run a DVD???? totem player says codec needed??02:54
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kagemarodownload the codec02:54
Jack_Sparrowhamza: Read above on restricted formats02:54
hamzawhich codev02:54
hamzawhich codec02:54
ariczOk, after shutting down my computer, punching it, both my CD-rom and DVD-rom is working.. BUT, I still can't mount them. Could anyone help me out here?02:54
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kagemarolibdvdcss202:55
kagemaroiirc02:55
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hamzaok jack_sparrow.. im doing that rite now02:55
SeokeYou know its impossible to make 50 dollars in 4 hours -_- the militarys gonna kick my ass xD02:55
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Jack_SparrowSeoke: Call one of your buddies, they always help their team02:56
kagemaroSeoke - how it it impossible to make $50 in 4 hours? lol02:56
dsgjust freeload some gas from a lone car somewhere02:56
Dubimaxjordan.  I am almost there.  The vlc player is there and open but how do I actually listen to the radiosai.org music (when I click on listen now it wants me to get a plug in)02:56
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SeokeJack_Sparrow: They live where I'm trying to get xD that would be pointless02:56
frogzooaricz: typicallys removable media gets automounted02:56
dsgor goto a marina, always lots of gas cans in boats02:56
Seokekagemaro: I'm trying to make $50 by 11 AM my time... /failing horribly02:56
Jack_SparrowSeoke: This is all off topic, but one of them will come get you..02:57
ariczfrogzoo : yep, but not here, it has worked earlier, but suddenly it seems the device drivers aren't in /etc anymore02:57
ariczfrogzoo : sorry, /dev02:57
SeokeJack_Sparrow: They live 3 hours away in the same town as my unit xD02:57
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dsghitchhaik02:57
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frogzooaricz: ls -l /dev/cdrom /dev/dvdrw02:57
geniiaricz This means they are not being detected at a hardware level then02:58
Dubimaxjordan:  are you still there?02:58
ariczfrogzoo : finds nothing02:58
Jack_SparrowSeoke: So much for planning ahead.. No one here can help and again.. this is off topic... although we feel for your situation..02:58
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ariczgenii: yep, that's what I've been suspecting too.. since dmesg | grep CD gives me nothing02:58
frogzooaricz: ls -l /dev/scd002:58
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ariczfrogzoo : nothing02:58
SeokeJack_Sparrow: Wasnt asking for help xD Just needed somewhere to vent and this was the first IRC channel open xDD02:59
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frogzooaricz: ls -l /dev/sc{a,b,c,d,e}002:59
str0can anyone help me with IRQ BIOS settings for 2 video cards ?02:59
ariczthe weird thing is it worked couple of weeks ago.. :)02:59
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ariczfrogzoo : nothing02:59
Jordan_UDubimax, Yes02:59
frogzooaricz: ls -l /dev/sd{a,b,c,d,e}003:00
frogzooaricz: ls -l /dev/{h,s}d{a,b,c,d,e}003:00
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ariczfrogzoo : nothing03:00
geniiaricz I'd suggest pulling the drive out and testing it in another box first to see if it's defective03:00
geniiaricz If it works in the other box we know it's a software issue03:01
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genii(or a local hardware detection issue or similar)03:01
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ariczgenii, it worked with w9x and wxp.. and also this distro, for some time :)03:01
Jack_Sparrowaricz: Id try to boot a live cd in it before physically pulling it out03:01
frogzooaricz: what changed?03:01
geniiJack_Sparrow: Not a bad suggestion03:01
ariczfrogzoo : I don't know..03:02
ariczfrogzoo : that's the problem hehe03:02
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frogzooaricz: yet the hd is found ?03:02
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ariczfrogzoo : but I remember someone her told me months ago (I had similar problem with this when I first installed ubuntu) .. to remove the DVD-rom.. just use one of the drives03:03
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geniiaricz You may want to try going to BIOS on the box, making sure that all HD are set to "auto" or "autodetect"03:03
kidbuntufrogzoo: the accessibilty for mouse doesn't work03:03
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ariczgenii : ok, will do03:03
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frogzooaricz: you been fiddling with hal settings?03:03
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ariczfrogzoo : nope, nothing advanced has been done on this OS03:04
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frogzooaricz: ide or sata or scsi cds?03:04
mind_shifthow do I mount a hard drive automatically? I have added hdb in fstab, but it's not working.03:04
Jordan_UDubimax, go to File -> Open Network Stream03:04
nadermanhi, I'm trying to do aptitude dist-upgrade, but I get a message, that the package index files are corrupt, they don't contain a filename field for tzdata03:04
darkempresshaving sound issues for some odd reason in feisty...can i get some help?03:04
ariczfrogzoo : ide03:04
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nadermancan't find anything on that problem online03:04
Jordan_UDubimax, And at the bottom put http://www.radiosai.org/Pages/AfriStream.asx as the URL03:04
ariczfrogzoo : I think, not 100% sure.. I know, this is something I should know.. :)03:05
geniiIf you just added a new CD/DVD to same cable, make sure the jumpers are correct (best normally to set both for cable select)03:05
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frogzooaricz: on same drive chain as another drive?03:05
royelmind_shift: pastebin your fstab file03:05
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ariczfrogzoo : don't know03:05
mind_shiftroyel: /dev/hdb        /media/disk     defaults                  0       003:05
Jack_Sparrowmind_shift: I use a script called diskmounter that places icon of my other drives on the desktop03:05
ariczgenii : yeah, I added the dvd-rom couple of years ago, it worked nicely in wxp at the time03:05
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frogzooaricz: well I'd check master/slave jumper settings on all your drives03:05
Dubimaxjordan:  I got the vlc player to recognize the url http://stream.radiosai.net:8006  but there is no sound.  Try it on you machine and see if you hear.  If yes llet us find why it does not work for me.03:06
darkempresssound was working last night, now i can't get any sound to work...ruled out inproperly plugged in speakers, and lspci lists an intel integrated soundcard03:06
frogzooaricz: if anything's set to cable select, change it03:06
mind_shiftoh, I forgot the filesystem type03:06
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royelmind_shift: /dev/hdb <-- change this to /dev/hdbx  where x is the partition number03:06
frogzoodarkempress: check sound -> volume control for mutes03:06
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Jordan_UDubimax, It works here, do you get any sound from any program?03:06
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mind_shiftroyel: It's a one partition harddrive03:06
zeldafan500I Disagree03:06
Houdini_Noobhello03:06
ariczfrogzoo : so if the jumpers are set wrongly, would it sometimes work and sometimes not?03:07
B-rabbithi03:07
mind_shiftso it should be hdb1?03:07
ariczfrogzoo : which is my case03:07
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zeldafan500lol, no03:07
Dubimaxjordan.  Yes, when the computer logs on I hear sound.03:07
frogzooaricz: it's not impossible03:07
zeldafan500I Disagree03:07
darkempressfrogzoo, no sound still03:07
Houdini_Noobhaving difficulty with a rar file in ubuntu03:07
zeldafan500That's irrelivent03:07
Jordan_UHoudini_Noob, sudo apt-get install unrar03:07
mind_shiftrebooting03:07
zeldafan500I Disagree03:07
zeldafan500lol, no03:08
ariczfrogzoo : ok, thanks, both you and genii :) I'll try fidling a bit with the drivers, bbl03:08
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Houdini_Noobthank you Jordan_U03:08
frogzoodarkempress: close all your sound apps, reboot, & try again - making sure none of your apps are set to use OSS03:08
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Jordan_UHoudini_Noob, np03:08
zeldafan500Try google03:08
zeldafan500no, what the other guy sayd.03:08
geniiaricz: frogzoo is right , when both are set to cable select (factory defaults these days) and one fails, the other automatically is supposed to become the master drive. but it sometimes goes screwy because the defective one is still on the cable sending erratic signals etc. So the one at end of cable should be master, in the middle of cable should be slave03:08
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zeldafan500lol timer jokes03:08
zeldafan500I Disagree03:08
zeldafan500That's irrelivent03:08
zeldafan500lol, no03:08
zeldafan500no, what the other guy sayd.03:08
zeldafan500I Disagree03:08
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darkempressfrogzoo, i have no idea how to get amarok or rythmbox to show me whether they are using oss03:08
ariczgenii : but now both my CD-rom and DVD-rom runs.. after as I said, shut down the computer and gave my box a good punch in the side..03:09
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Jack_Sparrowaricz: If punching it did anything.. you have a loose cable03:09
Dubimaxordan.  Yes, when the computer logs on I hear sound.03:09
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Hrvhi, im having som problems, i just installed ubuntu and when i log in i get a error message saying a error accured in booting the gnome settings deamon and a error code saying: "Process /usr/lib/control-center/gnome-settings-daemon received signal 11"03:10
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geniiaricz: Could be you jarred something loose inside, like a connector or so.But unlikely. I've smacked my box hundreds of times with no ill effects other than sore hands03:10
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darkempressfrogzoo, i get no sounds in ubuntu either...and vlc wont give sound...03:10
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Jack_Sparrowgenii: If a punch made any change then there is something loose03:10
kidbuntuhelp me please. alt tab button doesnt work03:11
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ariczgenii: hehe, I don't know, it happens sometimes the bios won't find the DVD-rom or CD-rom.. but now that's not the problem, since they both starts up at startup (spins, I can eject etc etc)03:11
royelgenii: lol, sore hands! ;)03:11
frogzoodarkempress: OSS/ALSA is an option in sound apps - find the option is left as an exercise03:11
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royelgenii: try using a hammer instead, I find that to be less painful an generally more productive :)03:11
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darkempressO.o03:11
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Jack_Sparrowaricz: Does the bios see them both..?03:12
cewek_kebelethiiiiiiii03:12
Frawgiearicz, that just means they have power.  they would both spin and open/close even if no data cable were plugged in.03:12
geniiaricz If you smacked it exactly next to one of the CD/DVD drives you may have messed the drive itself up but not likely03:12
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SnitzHello03:12
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SnitzANyone here?03:12
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ariczgenii : yep, that's what I did.. :) but they worked a couple of weeks ago, I'm not sure what happened meanwhile03:12
nadermanmy problem appears to be related to this bug: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg274674.html03:12
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frogzoocan we please avoid belting people's hardware, especially while disks are spinning???03:12
nadermanbut there is no workaround on there?03:12
DubimaxFrogzoo: OSS/ALSA is an option in sound apps - can you help me on this I am a complete beginner03:12
geniiroyel I actually threw one of my previous computers out the window before03:12
royelSnitz: were all out for lunch03:12
SnitzI have a problem regarding the pppoe03:13
nadermannobody aware of a way to make it work again?03:13
ariczgenii: or, they used to change.. sometimes the DVD-rom was working, sometimes the CD-rom.. never both at once03:13
Jack_Sparrowfrogzoo: Agreed..03:13
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geniiaricz: That symptom sounds like the master/slave/cable select issue03:13
fevelI have no music in vegastrike...strange thing is when I put on an mp3 and open the game....the game music kicks in just to piss me off...any ideas?? ubuntu 7.0403:13
SnitzAnyone please?03:13
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Jack_Sparrowfrogzoo: No one told him to do it, he was telling us what he had already done..03:13
Hrvdoes anyone know why ubuntu cant load the gnome settings deamon at startup?03:13
geniieg: One drive dies/is dying then both/1/none work03:13
ikoniawhat is the correct syntax to make sudo not ask for a password, I know you can do ALL = NOPASSWORD: ALL03:13
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jsestri2Does anyone know how to change the thermal trip points? My computer is overheating03:14
ikoniabut that asks you for a password but doesn't matter what you enter03:14
ariczgenii: ok, so I should just shut down, open my box.. and change jumpers.. are those jumpers easily understandable? :)03:14
frogzooJack_Sparrow: sure sure03:14
ikoniaI want to do ALL = NOPASSWORDPROMPT: ALL03:14
royelSnitz: theres no line, best to just ask your question an hope someone here is able to help, generally if there is you get an answer, if not try later ;)03:14
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jsestri2#ubuntu+!03:14
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darkempressfrogzoo, i went into System->Preferences->sound and can't seem to get anything to put out sound...03:15
Dubimaxcan anyone help me to get the sound to work with the vlc player?03:15
geniiaricz: Usually there are 3 sets of pins.Next to power is master, next is slave and one next to ribbon is cable select. USUALLY. But look at stamping on metal of case or writing on circuit board to make sure03:15
geniiwork, AFK03:15
erUSUL!sound | Dubimax03:15
ubotuDubimax: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:15
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erUSULDubimax: make sure vlc is configured to use alsa03:15
jsestri2I'm trying to change the temperatures that the CPU throttles at, but I don't seem to have the trip point files?03:15
darkempressnevermind :D03:15
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darkempressstupid headsets >.>03:15
SnitzI just want to know how to set a SERVICE NAME in the pppoeconf as I use a username and a password a long with a service name. PLEASE HELP!03:16
Jack_Sparrowgenii: Remember that is assuming they are on the same cable...03:16
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ariczgenii : ok, thank you so much for your help&time .. I'll try and come back later :)03:16
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darkempressfrogzoo, i don't suppose you can help with amarok crashing?03:16
meisminehello guys .. Im facing one problem which is whenever i press ctrl+alt, the scroll lock LED will lighting up and the text when I type becomes unreadable. I believe, It is the problem from keyboard setting but I dont know how to setting it. Any1 here can help me? TQ03:16
Jack_Sparrowgenii: They can both be slave on different cables..  :)03:16
royel!pppoe | Snitz03:16
ubotuSnitz: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE03:16
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frogzoodarkempress: address the chan03:17
geniiBack03:17
darkempressamarok keeps putting up a "can't find kmail" type message and crashing once you close kmail03:17
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Snitzubotu, I'll have a look at it!03:17
Snitz!pppoe03:17
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE03:17
B-rabbithi, everyone can anyone help me...i think a hacker has gain entry to my system....i think this because when i type the "history" command on my terminal, i get this random previous commands that i have not use....now, can any one tell me what to do, or what website i should go to to find the information03:17
meismine  <---- ths is the example once i press ctrl+alt03:17
darkempresser, once you close the message03:17
Frawgiearicz what I would do to see if its a jumped/cable problem is siply unlplug one of the drives and go into the BIOS and see what position its taking such as primary master, primary slave, secondary master, secondary slave.  then switch  the drive over to the other one and just make sure they dont occupy the same place.  plug them into their original cable plugs though, not the same one.03:17
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geniiJack_Sparrow: Yes, this true and it was wrong for me to automatically assume this was the configuration actually03:17
royelB-rabbit: change your passwords03:18
darkempresswhen i launch amarok in terminal, it doesn't give any specific errors, but i've already ruled out soundcard failure03:18
Jack_Sparrowgenii: Just trying to cover all bases..03:18
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royelB-rabbit: look for any new users that you haven't setup an remove them03:18
scorp123meismine: those are cyrillic letters :-)03:18
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darkempressit does however say that there is a bad device or something03:18
scorp123meismine: looks like you are switching your language to Russian or something like that :-)03:18
B-rabbitroyel:do you mean my root password03:18
B-rabbit?03:18
geniiJack_Sparrow: I figured they were both on same cable because if HD on same ribbon, then it would be CD and hd weirdnesses too03:19
meisminescorp123: then what should I do? .. I cant to log off using ctrl+alt+backspace03:19
SnitzThat is not working, there is no place to enter a service name :S03:19
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scorp123meismine: you're not supposed to log off using ctrl-alt-backspace03:19
royelB-rabbit: specifically I would change the passwords on the user that your suspecting they might have gained access to, your root user should NOT be enabled by default03:19
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Jack_Sparrowgenii: It is amazing the different configurations of hardware that will show up..03:19
scorp123meismine: ctrol-alt-backspace is for killing your desktop session (= unclean + ugly shutdown)03:19
zachwhere is the best way to have a script load on boot up?03:20
meismineo03:20
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aantn!seen03:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:20
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SnitzThat is not working, there is no place to enter a service name :S03:20
meismineso that .. I cant do that .. what should i do to disable that ctrl+alt function?03:20
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geniiJack_Sparrow: Yes, this is very true.03:21
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aantnkk03:21
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robertjanyone in gutsy getting  symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/libspell680lp.so: undefined symbol: _ZN8Hunspell5spellEPKc03:21
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scorp123meismine: check your locale settings + keyboard settings. You probably configured something that will switch the keyboard layout once cotrl-alt is presses03:21
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Jack_Sparrowgenii: The info you were giving would be right 99 out of 100 times...03:21
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robert_X segfaults after not being able to load the wfb module- HELP03:22
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geniiJack_Sparrow: Just yesterday in fact some guy had a Zip drive set up for HD mode on the IDE and finally figured out he had no disk in it, that is wasn't a defective internal HD of some sort after all03:22
Jack_Sparrowgenii: YEp that will do it.03:22
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meismineok .. tq dude03:23
meismine:D03:23
ari_stress!apt-catcher03:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-catcher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:23
mypapitdo you mean apt-cache?03:23
ari_stresswhat is apt-catcher?03:23
geniiari_stress: Did you mean apt-cahe ?03:23
geniicache rather03:23
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Jack_Sparrowgenii: I am going to make some hardware changes .then reinstall.. back later.. take care.03:23
meismineeh .. what is the short cut to run terminal from keyboard? .. hehe .. I forgot d .. :P03:23
robert_X segfaults after not being able to load the wfb module- HELP03:23
Frawgieok, *cracks knuckles*, who wants to play with nvidia drivers today?03:23
B-rabbitroyel:  B-rabbit: specifically I would change the passwords on the user that your suspecting they might have gained access to, your root user should NOT be enabled by defaulti...... am sure the hacker has gain entry to my root account, but i dont understand about the defult thing that you sfecified03:23
geniiJack_Sparrow: Have fun :)03:23
ari_stressmypapit: a friend of mine wants to setup a server so that clients dont have to download from the internet for updates/installation03:23
mypapitok03:24
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zzco_uh, yeah- it's still robert_ here03:25
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zzco_nick zzco03:25
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royelB-rabbit: did you enable the root account at any time?03:25
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Jordan_UDubimax, use http://www.radiosai.org/Pages/AfriStream.asx  not http://stream.radiosai.net:800603:25
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royelB-rabbit: try this: sudo last root03:26
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finnis there an easy way to have my /home/ moved to my second hdd?03:27
zzcoI'm trying to update my installed packages, and then reboot03:27
billcaseHi;  I have some installation questions.  Is there a better Ubuntu IRC dealing just with installation?03:27
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Jordan_Ubillcase, no03:27
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Jordan_Ubillcase, What's the question?03:28
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scorp123billcase: try the forums03:28
billcaseOK,03:28
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Dubimaxjordan:  I did but still there is no sound.03:28
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Jordan_UDubimax, In your last comment you said you used http://stream.radiosai.net:800603:29
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royelfinn: it's not that hard to do03:30
royelfinn: one sec, I am looking for a guide that I can link you03:30
finnthank you03:30
Dubimaxjordan: yes, but I changed it.  It seems there the music is streaming but no sound something more basic needs to be adjusted03:30
royelfinn: here's something, should do pretty good: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/03:30
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Jordan_UDubimax, Try opening the video that comes with ubuntu in vlc03:30
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finnthank you03:31
Dubimaxjordan.  I cannot find it.03:32
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thefourmibonjour03:34
Pici!fr | thefourmi03:34
ubotuthefourmi: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:34
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Jordan_UDubimax, It should be in your home folder03:34
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zzcowhat the hell is the wfb module?03:35
Jordan_UDubimax, It's in a folder named "Examples" in your home folder03:35
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aantn!irc03:36
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines03:36
tafkazwhy wont i see any /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status with ubuntu feisty ?03:36
tafkazcat: /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status: No such file or directory03:36
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darkempresscould a broken xine install break amarok?03:37
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Dubimaxjordan:  I tried open disc also. does not work.03:37
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mc44darkempress: yes, amarok uses xine03:38
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darkempressmc44, gxine and amarok both keep crashing on me when i start them, and gxine just flat out segfaults03:39
darkempresscan't figure out why03:40
Dubimaxjordan:03:40
Dimensionshiyaa ... i had installed XP with ubuntu but couldn't bring up the grub ... and was booting to xp ... just followed a tutorial online to reinstall grub ... but now neither partitions are booting ... when i boot it says 'Select Proper Boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key'03:41
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zzcogrr03:41
pi-mesonWhat's the best way to have a program run during/at-the-same-time as gdm?03:41
Dubimaxjordan: I found an mp3 file that seems to be playing since the numbers in the vlc player are changing yet there is no sound.   Something more basic needs to be fixed.03:41
Frawgieanyone know how to get ubuntu to utilize both my cpu? its only seeing 1 of em03:41
frogzoodarkempress: on feisty?03:41
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darkempressfrogzoo, yep03:42
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frogzoodarkempress: run a memtest03:42
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zzcoX still crashes03:42
zzcogah03:42
darkempressfrogzoo, how?03:42
kenroWhat does 'to be slashdotted' mean?03:42
Jordan_UDubimax, I don't know, it might be fixed in Feisty03:42
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geniiThe generic kernel should be SMP already. If you installed some non smp kernel or compiled your own that may be why it only sees 1 cpu03:43
tafkazi really need to have the agp output03:43
frogzoodarkempress: it's an option fro the grub prompt03:43
ariczOk, box is open, DVD-rom is out.. now what? :) shouldn't my CD-rom at least work now? Since DVD-rom is in my hands.. :p03:43
zzcookay03:43
Jordan_Ukenro, To have slashdot link to your puny server being run out or your basement at which point your site dies a bloody death :)03:43
zzcogoing to a new kernel, hopefully that quiets everything03:43
magnetrongenii: that's what she said03:43
Frawgiegenii its a clean install, haven't changed a thing yet its only reporting 1 cpu in the hardware list03:44
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darkempressfrogzoo, and why exactly would i need to run a memtest for one app segfaulting?03:44
Dubimaxjordan:  ok.  I will get the newer version and proceed slowly.  Appreciate your help and ubotu's also.03:44
geniiFrawgie: Ah, OK. No immediate idea then.03:44
geniiaricz: Is the cd still remianing in there set to master and on the end of the cable?03:44
Jordan_U!upgrade > Dubimax03:44
zzcohelp?03:45
Jordan_UDubimax, You should have just gotten a PM from ubotu with upgrade instructions03:45
kenroJordan_U, I read that term in a post wherein poster bemoaned being slashdotted before he could even get the posting up. Or something.03:45
ariczgenii : hoh, I don't know.. so I have to get out the cd-rom too03:45
Dubimaxjordan:  When I close this chat room I can get the log and see everything you showed me?  By the way I just heard a sound.  did you send it to me?03:45
Frawgiewhats the best free forum software out there?03:45
geniiaricz: Not really03:45
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geniiaricz: Just look at the ribbon and see if it's plugged in the end or middle03:46
ariczgenii : there was many jumperslots on the back of the dvd-rom..03:46
Dubimaxjordan:  what is PM?03:46
ariczgenii : ok, if I manage to see anything from the little view I can get into the box03:46
aricztight stuff here03:46
Jordan_UDubimax, It is a personal message03:46
frogzooFrawgie: plone & zope are good, not straightforward to setup03:46
padeehi everyone... any bookkeeping gurus here? ive got troubles with sql-ledger...03:46
zzcoDubimax: private message.03:46
Jordan_U!logs | Dubimax03:46
Frawgiefrogzoo phpbb2 any good?03:46
ubotuDubimax: Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs03:46
mcsdprivate message03:46
kenroJordan_U,  Thanks, and never mind any else. :)03:47
Dubimaxjordan;  How do I read it?  Is it email?03:47
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zzcoJordan_U: it's private, not personal :P03:47
zzcoeven though they're the same thing03:47
Jordan_UMeh, private personal it's too late for me to tell the difference :)03:47
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geniiaricz: If you have the cd on the end of the ribbon and set (as best you can) to master, and then the OS still doesn't see it, then shut down and swap the drives. eg, remove CD, insert DVD same spot, then see again if OS sees it etc03:47
geniiwork, AFK03:47
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ariczgenii : ok, thanks.. the jumper at the back of the CD-rom was at the same spot as the jumper on the DVD-rom03:48
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ariczgenii : from the view back, LEFT.. and there is a spot in the MIDDLE and RIGHT.. 3 jumperspots03:49
zzcoanyway03:49
ariczgenii : ah, work..03:49
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zzcoMY X LIGHTS ITSELF ON FIRE03:49
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jsestri2!ubotu dist-upgrade03:50
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:50
kenrozzco, As long as itdoesn't sing Arthur Brown songs when it does,03:50
geniiback03:50
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zzcokenro- it segfaults on backtrace03:50
geniiaricz: OK, normally on most of them the Master is the one next to the power cable03:51
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swmiller6oldpink: did you get it installed03:51
geniiaricz: So for testing, put a single drive on Master, on the end of the cable03:51
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kenrozzco, You using hte gibbon?03:51
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zzconope03:51
zzcofeisty03:51
zzco(lots of Xorg message)03:52
zzco\n03:52
zzcoBacktrace:03:52
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zzcoSegmentation fault (core dumped)03:52
jsestri2Has anyone tried upgrading from dapper -> edgy lately? The online instructions fail...03:52
genii!pastebin03:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:52
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darkempressgrrr..how can memory cause a segfault?03:52
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zzcodarkempress: bad ram :P03:53
Ghost_Hello...    Can somrbody help me03:53
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AnRkeysup Ghost_03:53
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darkempresszzco, nothing else is segfaulting...and anything that needs xine is crashing...03:53
kenrozzco, I barely comprehend the point of segfault, anyway. But you might have the wrong settings in the server.03:53
zzcohm03:54
Ghost_my zyxel modem03:54
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mc44jsestri2: fail how?03:54
darkempresszzco, i saw mention of a libxine bug in google03:54
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zzcoah03:54
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jsestri2its having trouble getting certain files (Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2))03:54
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zzcoI wish they'd fix that thing which makex X go kaboom03:54
jsestri2mc44: what repos should I have on?03:54
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zzcomakes X**03:55
qrtI have a file made by Revelation password manager and I need to open it in Windows, does anyone know how I can do that?03:55
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zzcowell03:55
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zzcothat went well03:55
AnRkeyqrt, is is a csv or text file?03:55
Ghost_i cant get my TS server online because my zyxel adsl modem is blokking it some how need HELP!03:55
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jsestri2mc44: I have dapper-updates, main, restricted, multiverse, universe (for the ubuntu dapper officals)03:56
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qrtAnRkey: I'm not sure, the file doesn't have a file extension, I guess it's the standard format for Revelation03:56
yinghaohi03:56
yinghaoi have a question03:56
mc44jsestri2: yeah that should be fine, you are using the update-manager right?03:56
hugifrbmghhhhh fglrx geht noch immer nicht03:56
jsestri2yes03:56
yinghaoi like to run XEN with debian03:56
jsestri2mc44:yes03:56
hugifrbXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:56
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AnRkeywrt try notepad++ to see what's inside it03:56
mc44!de | hugifrb03:56
ubotuhugifrb: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:56
hugifrbsry03:57
jsestri2mc44: maybe I don't need universe? I forget what they all mean03:57
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hugifrbmy fault03:57
AnRkeyGhost_, are you using adsl or sdsl?03:57
kenroyinghao, You would.03:57
yinghaothen i need to recompile the kernel right?03:57
geniiqrt You could try just a text editor like notepad, if it looks all gibberish you know it's not flat text03:57
Ghost_ADSL  i thing03:57
AnRkeyok03:57
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mc44jsestri2: no, that shouldn't matter. May just be a temporary problem with the archive03:57
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AnRkeywhat model xyzel router?03:57
qrtgenii, well I know it's not flat text since it's encrypted.03:57
mind_shifthow do I change the brown login and the loading theme?03:57
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Ghost_Sec i go look03:57
OldPinkswmiller6, on the laptop now ;)03:58
kenroDoes anyone use ROXbox?03:58
jsestri2mc44: hmm, shouldn't it be going for edgy stuff anyways? do i ahve to change my sources.lst like if i were to do it with an apt dist-upgrade?03:58
AnRkeykenro, i do on my iriver03:58
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mc44jsestri2: no, if you are using update-manager it does it automatically03:58
AnRkeykenro, works nicely with ubuntu now03:58
zzcogah03:58
mc44jsestri2: your error is for the edgy repos03:58
Ghost_p-660wh d1 AnRkey03:58
geniiqrt Since stuff like MD5 etc is one-way encryption then there would not usually be a way to un-encrypt it, even natively in linux03:58
AnRkeyGhost_, give me a sec03:59
zzco"Error running install command for nvidia"03:59
Ghost_kk03:59
tckhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-3/03:59
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ariczAh, could anyone else try helping me getting my DVD-rom working? I've now taken out the CD-rom, switched DVD-rom to master.. but still can't mount03:59
jsestri2mc44: hmph, hopefully it works later then I suppose03:59
geniiaricz: I'm still around :)03:59
kenroAnRkey, RISC on X, over fluxbox, is still a viable alternative?03:59
ariczahh, spleeedid!:)03:59
qrtgenii, this is a password manager file though so it'd be useless if I couldn't decrypt it.03:59
aricz+N03:59
ariczwhops..03:59
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AnRkeykenro, donno04:00
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ariczgenii : you said something about the BIOS.. what should I do there?04:00
AnRkeyi use rockbox on my iriver04:00
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qrtI can open the file just fine with Revelation but Linux doesn't work for me anymore and no one at Ubuntuforums or Linuxquestions could help me so I'm stuck with Windows.04:00
Comehello people!04:00
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bullgard4Using the 'Create_Launcher' dialog I created a panel applet. It works all right. What is the filename of this Launcher?04:00
geniiqrt: No. The computer does not unencrypt anything in there. It just runs the password you give thru same encryption as in the file, sees if the results are the same. no un-encrypting involved04:00
ariczgenii : now cd-rom is out of the box, only dvd-rom.. jumper on master (I think, at the LEFT when you see it from the back)..04:00
ArsoHello.04:00
OldPinkTo avoid typing out a huge paragraph in IRC, I'd like to refer people to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3044877#post3044877 and ask for a response to it, please? :)04:00
Ghost_>:/04:00
kenroAnRkey, Ah. nono, I say ROXbox. :)04:00
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ariczgenii : also, a wire which said "master" is put on.. not sure what those are called.. quite wide one, many pins04:01
geniiaricz: The jumper should be on the one closest to the power plug for the drive04:01
Come:)04:01
zzcoyay04:01
zzcoalmost04:01
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pppoe_dudeany ideas how i can burn an hfs+ image on ubuntu? i am now able to mount it, and file gives me Macintosh HFS Extended version 4 data04:01
zzcoit isnt segfaulting anymore04:01
ArsoHey guys, i currently have windows Vista on a 40gb partition. i plan on formatting that drive, and installing ubuntu and windows Xp(for gaming). how do you recommend i partition the drive?04:01
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ariczgenii: oh, so I should put it on the RIGHT ?04:01
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geniiaricz If the one saying "master" is on then don't mess with it. Just put it on end of cable04:01
sn0OldPink there are no official builds for feisty04:01
kenrozzco,  How'd you fix?04:01
zzcoupgraded my kernel04:02
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nerdygirl_elliehi!04:02
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kenrodoh!04:02
qrtgenii, Well, It shows me my passwords and user names and adresses for the sites so I'm guessing there's some decrypting involved04:02
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OldPinksn0 thanks, :)04:02
sn0OldPink so your options are use the tarball from mozilla's site , or alternatively use a 3rd party repostiory to install the debs04:02
Arsoanyone...04:02
TorahteenHi, I was told that there's a package in the universe repository for Beryl in Feisty Fawn. Finally upgraded from Dapper hehe. What's the name of the Beryl Package?04:02
geniiaricz with older drives it was standard next to power plug. but these days it can be anywhere.Sometimes there is a picture on the sticker on top of the drive to show proper jumper settings. but many times not04:02
Comehi!04:02
sn0OldPink if you google search your topic for the ubuntu forums, it gives a possible link on google :)04:02
zzcoArso: are you blind?04:02
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OldPinksn0, a third party one is what I'm after. Thing is, the tarball is just the installed files, compacted, it's not an actual package you'd compile04:03
ariczgenii: I should put in 'slave' instead? because it was that "wire" which was connected to both my CD-rom and DVD-rom.. there are 2 "outlets" on the same wire.. one MASTER, and one SLAVE04:03
underguizcan someone  point a gtk theme that goes well with notebook lcd displays?04:03
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sn0OldPink indeed that is how mozilla distribute it, a quick google search showed me http://www.ubuntugeek.com/firefox-30-still-in-alpha-installation-in-ubuntu-feisty.html04:03
ariczgenii : ok.. the 3 jumpers are on the left back.. power is at the right04:03
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ariczgenii : and in the middle it's that 'many-pinned' wire..04:03
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nerdygirl_ellieCompletely hypothetically speaking, if a person were to delete the default application panel, i.e. the Ubuntu equivalent of the start menu, how would she turn it back on?  I know you can redo a package installation with dpkg, but Is that what I'm looking for?04:03
TorahteenAnyone? Just the name of the Beryl Package in Feistu04:03
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geniiaricz: the many-pinned wire is a ribbon :)04:04
ariczahhh.. ribbon :) hehe04:04
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nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: one sec.04:04
zzcocrap04:04
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zzco"No usable screens"04:04
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AnRkeyGhost_, here is the manual >> http://www.zyxel.com/web/support_download_detail.php?sqno=132704:04
Torahteennerdygirl_ellie Ok :P04:04
kenroBeryl was named after Rick Berman. I thing. When they expanded the acronym, they had to choose this strange name.04:04
AnRkeyGhost_, download that for now04:04
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geniiaricz: So drive on end of ribbon. Jumper put next to power plug connector04:04
ariczgenii : ok, easier to explain now.. on that ribbon there are 2 'outlets' .. one SLAVE and one MASTER.. they were connected to CD-ROM and DVD-rom.. now CD-rom is out of the box, MASTER ribbon is connected to the DVD-rom04:04
kbrooksI don't like customer service nowadays04:04
Arsozzco sorry, did you reply? i cant find it.04:04
AnRkeyGhost_, does your ts server have a firewall?04:04
Ghost_kk ty04:04
Ghost_no04:04
geniiaricz Good04:04
capitalideaBeryl is a mineral's name. It's where a ruby comes from.04:05
zzcoArso: are you blind?04:05
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AnRkeyGhost_, just so that i understand correctly ts as in terminal services?04:05
AnRkeybrb04:05
Arsozzco no, i am not.04:05
geniiaricz So if it will work in hardware at all, this is proper settings for testing04:05
royelkbrooks: I actually had a "great" experience with Logitech on monday this week04:05
novato_brjah estou no linux04:05
nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: "beryl"  You can do an 'apt-cache search beryl' to see it.  You won't see it unless you have the ...cannot remember.. repository turned on.  IIRC< you need beryl and Emerald04:05
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Ghost_teamspeak04:05
Arsozzco are you pm'ing me or something? and i cant see it coz i am not registered?04:05
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mind_shiftAfter I log in, a loading window appears, how do I change the theme of that loading window?04:05
kbrooksroyel, oh?04:05
ariczgenii : I get a errormessage at startup.. 'can't find primary drive1' .. not sure what that means.. does it have anything to do with the dvd-rom?04:06
nerdygirl_ellienovato_br: espanol, francais?04:06
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TorahteenOk, I'll try that nerdygirl_ellie04:06
capitalideaDoes anyone here use the low-latency kernel from Feisty with Jackd?04:06
zzcoArso no. I'm simply asking if you're blind04:06
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ubuntu-rocksanyone here running fiesty on a dual core opteron 265 chip (1.8ghz)?04:06
geniiaricz Thats fine, just let it continue04:06
mcsdif I run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and then shutdown -r 0 does xorg.conf changes take effect or do I need to reinitialize it somehow?04:06
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capitalideaubuntu-rocks: I'm running ona c2d e632004:06
novato_brsorry, nerdygirl_ellie04:06
novato_brits portuguese04:06
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nerdygirl_elliedpkg-reconfigure.  That was it.  Thanks!04:06
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ariczgenii : yap.. then, this is where I am now :) dvd-rom has power, but, still don't find anything in dmesg about it starting the drivers04:06
Arsozzco no, i am afraid not. make your point please?04:06
sn0mcsd after reconfiguring xserver-xorg you only need to restart X04:06
geniiqrt I'm out of immediate ideas then.04:06
zzcoArso because you seem to be oblivious to the fact that this is a linux channel, and not a windoze one.04:06
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royelkbrooks: well, you mentioned cust service. Yeah, I called about my G7 mouse button being intermittant at times, they asked for a few numbers off the mouse/charger/reciever and then asked for my mailing address, an said they would ship a new one out no charge, no more questions, I was so shocked, I could not believe it04:07
Torahteennerdygirl_ellie: I did that, and got a long list, including just plain "beryl"04:07
mcsdsn0:  how can I do so04:07
sn0mcsd for example sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (or kdm if you use kubuntu etc)04:07
nerdygirl_ellienovato_br:  Interesting.  I'll add that to my list of languages to learn hello in.04:07
geniiaricz: Don't worry about dmesg/drivers right now04:07
Torahteennerdygirl_ellie: Is that what I'm looking for?04:07
novato_brnerdygirl_ellie, do u want to learn portuguese?04:07
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novato_brsorry, it's hard04:07
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novato_brheheehe04:07
ubuntu-rocksi'm looking for hardware to run ubuntu fiesty and want to know whether to go amd or intel04:07
mcsdsn0: thanks04:07
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kbrooksroyel, amazing04:07
ubuntu-rocksfor a server04:07
novato_brportuguese have hard grammar04:07
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stshello folks04:07
royelkbrooks: yeah, unheard of type of service these days.04:07
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Arsozzco u realise that, i am asking you guys, because i want to make Ubuntu my primary OS, and i dont know how much space it needs.04:08
nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: then you should be able to sudo apt-get install beryl ... or, if you were me, you would go to System -> administration -> Synaptic software something and install it from there.04:08
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capitalideaubuntu-rocks: Either is fine but I am very please with my C2D set up.04:08
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Arsozzco i just mentioned the windows for added information04:08
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royelkbrooks: oh, and they spoke my langauge to top it off :)04:08
kbrooksroyel,  customer service can suck sometimes. i'l clarify in #ubuntu-offtopic .....04:08
geniiaricz: After machine gets booted, pls pastebin the contents of file: /etc/fstab04:08
TorahteenOk, thanks04:08
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stsdoes anybody know why my cronjob is not running. i inserted a new line into /etc/crontab and even restarted crond.04:08
sts0  16   * * *   root    /etc/cron.daily/export-atm-to-brown04:08
sts-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  300 2007-07-19 16:36 export-atm-to-brown04:08
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FlyingSquirrel32What is involved in getting surround sound from my ubuntu machine if I have a card that does it?04:08
AnRkeyGhost_, no problem i have a TS server here too04:08
ubuntu-rockscapitalidea - thanks for the input04:08
aricz!pastebin04:08
zzcoArso, then you should have included Ubuntu in that list, unless I missed it, due to my present technical difficulties.04:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:08
capitalideaubuntu-rocks: I think the most important consideration is how much heat your processor(s) will put off04:08
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AnRkeyGhost_, be right back gotta run quick04:08
geniists Make sure the file is set to executable04:09
Ghost_Daan GTG BRB SOON04:09
stsgenii: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  300 2007-07-19 16:36 export-atm-to-brown04:09
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ubuntu-rocksi'm not that worried as our server room is a/c cooled04:09
nerdygirl_ellieFlyingSquirrel32: Hi.  I don't have your answer, but I do know the executable should NOT be in /etc/cron.daily04:09
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capitalideaubuntu-rocks: Try to make sure you get a processor with 64nm technology04:09
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Arsozzco "and installing ubuntu and windows Xp(for gaming)." i am afraid u missed it04:09
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Torahteennerdygirl_ellie: Should I download emerald too?04:09
capitalideaubuntu-rocks: or 65nm whatever it is ... I forget now04:09
geniists OK, then no immediately obvious thing comes to mind04:09
FlyingSquirrel32nerdygirl_ellie: I think you are talking to te wrong person04:10
zzcoah, my bad04:10
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nerdygirl_elliesorry about that..04:10
zzcoArso- I'm trying to get my copy of xorg working again04:10
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capitalideaubuntu-rocks: also, AMD64 (that covers Intel's 64bit stuff too) support is fairly decent on Ubuntu Feisty Fawn04:10
nerdygirl_elliests: It should NOT be in /etc/crontab04:10
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geniists Maybe some log would be enlightening in /var/log  cron log I forget the exact name or possibly subdir04:11
Arsozzco so your busy ? no problem.04:11
nerdygirl_elliests: 4:00 p.m. is what you want?04:11
nerdygirl_ellieawww.04:11
stsnerdygirl_ellie: yeah04:11
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stsgenii: nothing in /var/log/cron.log04:11
ariczgenii : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30443/plain/04:11
Torahteennerdygirl_ellie: Don't mean to bug ya, but should I download emerald?04:11
nerdygirl_elliests: check root's mail.  it should send an email with any output.04:11
nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: yepyep.04:11
Torahteenok04:11
geniireading, afk04:11
TorahteenSorry for asking twice :P04:11
ariczgenii : It's the same as it's always been.. :) /etc/fstab ..04:11
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ubuntu-rockscapitalidea - i don't really have need for a 64 bit stuff but I guess I can use 32bit stuff on a 64bit chip04:11
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nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: there are some good howtos on google, ubuntuforums, and the ubuntu wiki.04:12
stsnerdygirl_ellie: No mail for root.04:12
Arsorobert_ just please let me know when ur done, i am still downloading Ubuntu anyway.04:12
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capitalideaubuntu-rocks: yes04:12
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geniiaricz: Backup your fstab and in a minute I will give you a modified one to try04:12
nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: If you have an nvidia card, Compiz works with less "fiddling".  Do you have an accelerated video driver installed?04:12
Torahteennerdygirl_ellie: I haven't a clue04:13
TorahteenI do have an nvidia card04:13
nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: Yeah!  have you installed beryl yet?04:13
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nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: if not, don't.04:13
TorahteenNo04:13
TorahteenI hadn't04:13
TorahteenIs compiz available as a package?04:13
HEP85ubuntu-rocks: yes, but you will have to install 32 bit apps manually. packages are all 64 bit04:14
nerdygirl_ellieyes04:14
TorahteenOr are there any instructions for installing?04:14
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pppoe_dudei have a .dmg file, i tried using a script to change it to .iso, but i think it just gave me a slightly modified version of that image (perhaps a non-compressed version? one that can mount anyway) but, it still mounts as hfs+. any ideas on how i can convert it to iso9660?04:14
AnRkeyGhost_, you still there?04:14
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nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: yes.  the $5 question is, what kind of nvidia video card do you have?04:14
mc44Torahteen: are you on feisty?04:14
OldPinkI have a ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x card in my new laptop, which seemed to install fine (good resolution, etc) using a basic feisty install.04:14
OldPinkTrying to get a better driver installed to get direct rendering/desktopeffects working, but all guides seem to be for Hoary/Breezy, and I knowalot has changed since then.04:14
OldPinkAnyone point me in the right direction for what to do in a  Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x?04:14
caravelhi all04:14
Torahteennerdygirl_ellie: I have an FX520004:14
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lauriexxxhi to all04:15
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Torahteennerdygirl_ellie: A little old, but I didn't need anything better hehe04:15
robert_sorry 'bout that04:15
robert_heh04:15
capitalideaIf anyone could help me a bit with some JACKd issues I am having... I would be much obliged.04:15
lauriexxxcan anybody how to install a french spell check on oppen office?04:15
Torahteenmc44: Yes, I'm on feisty04:15
nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: Yeah!  'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic compiz' should do it.  lemme double check those package names.04:15
mc44Torahteen: you can turn on compiz from System -> prefs -> desktop effects04:15
geniiaricz: To edit the file you need of course admin privelege. So: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab   then replace contents with paste from here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30444/04:15
ariczgenii : yapyap, it's done04:15
caraveltrying to select a tablet pc, and looking for ulv/t cpu comparison charts under linux for calculation, as well as gpu perf intel/nvidia (beryl but no gaming), would anyone have a link to search ? days and days of googling did not help much04:16
mc44nerdygirl_ellie: compiz is installed by default on feisty04:16
ariczgenii : oh, not the one you've pasted.. :) will do04:16
OldPink!ati | OldPink04:16
fevelI installed vegastrike and music from synaptic but the game has no sound, if I open xmms to play mp3 and open the game the game music kicks in overlapping the game music. Does anyone have a solution to this issue??04:16
nerdygirl_elliemc44: doesn't he need the nvidia driver from lrm?04:16
geniiaricz: Basically I just commented out the slave drive entry and made the cdrom to auto from noauto04:16
mc44nerdygirl_ellie: yeah but you can use Restricted Manager to install that :)04:16
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TorahteenI did the commmand nerdygirl_ellie said04:17
Torahteen114mb needed04:17
TorahteenSo do I really have it?04:17
ariczgenii : ok, so now I'll just reboot right?04:17
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nerdygirl_elliemc44: here I go making things difficult.  :)04:17
geniiaricz: After you save the changes, put in some standard type of cd like an old AOL one or so04:17
Torahteenlol04:17
ArsoHey guys, how much space is recommended for a fresh Ubuntu installation?04:17
geniiaricz: No reboot needed04:17
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Arso10 gb enough?04:17
TorahteenWhat's this extra 114MB?04:17
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mc44Torahteen: go into System -> prefs -> desktop effects to see if it works04:17
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OldPink...Arso, 2GB minimum04:17
ari_stressArso: enough04:18
mind_shifthow do I change the loading the theme of the loading window that appears after I log in?04:18
Torahteenmc44: Ok04:18
nerdygirl_ellieMod, please IM me.04:18
ariczgenii : yep, standard datacd in04:18
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ArsoOldPink great , ty04:18
ArsoOldPink i see, ty04:18
ArsoOldPink woops :P04:18
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TorahteenUhh...04:18
TorahteenNo title bars! :(04:18
geniiaricz: OK give it a minute to see it and maybe popup a window04:18
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ArsoOldPink and theres another small partition for the virtual memory or something right ?04:18
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Arsoari_stress i see, thank you04:18
Torahteenmc44: I've lost my title bars04:19
nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: you downloaded 114 mb that fast?!  I'm moving!!04:19
Torahteennerdygirl_ellie No04:19
OldPinkArso, 128MB minimum swap04:19
eHey guys, I was trying to just do a simple mount of a server and I keep getting the following error: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       004:19
OldPinkArso, so really 2.12Gb ;)04:19
nerdygirl_ellie/HELP OP04:19
Torahteennerdygirl_ellie I didn't start downloading, was seeing if maybe I had everything04:19
geniiaricz: Was the cd in there before you made the changes or did you just put one in after?04:19
mc44Torahteen: try running "gtk-window-decorator"04:19
ArsoOldPink but isnt it recommended to be double the ram or something?04:19
eoops I get the following error missing codepage or other error04:19
e       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try04:19
e       dmesg | tail  or so04:19
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Torahteennerdygirl_ellie: Although, I was getting 1.2MB/s while upgrading to feisty xD04:20
AboSamoorwhat's the shortcut for the show desktop button ? so if u play a game in full screen you can switch between windows ?04:20
ArsoOldPink (i used ubuntu for 2 months last year, but forgot pretty much everything)04:20
ariczgenii : I ejected and closed it04:20
OldPinkArso, no, not at all. The more RAM you have, the less swap you need04:20
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eAnyone have suggestions?04:20
geniiaricz: OK, perfect04:20
ariczgenii : at least it started to brrrrrrmmmmmmm04:20
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ArsoOldPink i see, i'll just keep it at 1gb then, just in case (i have 1gb ram)04:20
ariczgenii : if that makes any sense.. hehe04:20
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Torahteenmc44: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"04:20
nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: still stuck?04:20
OldPinkArso, swap is only used once you run out of RAM. So if you have 128Mb of RAM, you should have around 512MB swap. If you have a gig of Ram, you're only going to need 128MB SWAP04:20
royele: what are you trying to mount?04:20
robert_YAY04:20
robert_okay04:20
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ArsoOldPink ah , isee, 128 mb it is then :) thanks.04:21
vikk2hi all. ..... how can i have my ubuntu server record all the commands i execute, in a file ??04:21
Torahteennerdygirl_ellie: Does what suck?04:21
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mc44Torahteen: hmm, you might try logging out and back in04:21
nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: Are you stuck without window title bars?04:21
eroyel, I'm trying to mount a server04:21
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Torahteenmc44, Logging out or restarting entirely?04:21
OldPinkArso, I'm on a 768Mb RAM system usually, and I hardly ever break into swap, and I do alot of multitasking. Youtube, music, Pidgin, Firefox....04:21
geniiaricz: Yup :) Give it maybe 60 seconds to see if you get a popup that shows it sees it. If you get no popup, then go to the dir it is supposed to get mounted to and see if you can list whats on the cd04:21
Torahteennerdygirl_ellie: Yes04:21
royelvikk2: .bash_history already does that to a point04:21
eroyel, more like a server directory04:21
nerdygirl_ellieTorahteen: run 'gtk-window-decorator --replace'04:21
Torahteenok04:21
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vikk2 royel: is that a file  u r talking of ?04:22
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ariczgenii : ok, still nothing :\04:22
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sinhooi04:22
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mc44Torahteen: just restarting x should do it04:22
nerdygirl_ellieThat too.. ;)04:22
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ariczgenii : checked /cdrom and /media/cdrom cdrom0 and cdrom104:22
Torahteennerdygirl_ellie: How long does that program take?04:22
OldPinkroyel, how's the mail server?04:22
sinhooioioioio04:22
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geniiaricz: OK, do: mount /media/cdrom104:22
Torahteenbrb then04:22
royelOldPink: gotta fix the webmail portion still, but the server is working again :)04:23
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ariczgenii : mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist04:23
royele: can you be more specific04:23
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s0nixhi, anyone use PACKET FILTER on ubuntu?04:23
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geniiaricz: OK, so not seeing it at hardware level still then :/04:23
Torahteenmc44, still no title bars :(04:24
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ariczgenii : oh.. :| ahhh04:24
royelOldPink: and the upgrade was of no use either, the Sql problem still exists.. so all I managed to do was break stuff04:24
nerdygirl_ellies0nix: I use iptables and firestarter, though infrequently.04:24
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ariczgenii : are there any jumpers at the other end of the ribbon ?04:24
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Moduliz0rhi04:24
ariczgenii : or should I try switching jumpers back of the dvd-rom.. since it the same as it's always been04:24
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TorahteenUmm... and now the terminal isn't working :\04:24
Torahteenjust a white box04:24
geniiaricz: No, there is not anything else on the ribbon to set or so on just the little manual jumpers04:24
AboSamoorwhat's the shortcut for the show desktop button ? so if u play a game in full screen you can switch between windows ?04:24
ArsoOldPink i see, um, right now, i have windows vista on a 40gb drive, i want to format it, and install ubuntu and XP on that drive, how do you recommend i do that? since i'l have to divide it into a 9gb ext3 linux partition for ubuntu, the 128swap partition, and the remainder, an ntfs windows xp partition. any recommendations?04:25
Moduliz0rHi, can someone assist me with setting up Hybserv to work with  ircd-hybrid?04:25
fevelhow do I kill the music daemon??04:25
geniiaricz: The only jumpers which would ever need messing with would be master/slave/CS and we already did that part. So not much more to do for that drive04:25
ArsoOldPink is ext3 still the FS used for linux these days? or is it ext4 or osmething04:25
BudwaaI have a few apps i need to run in ndows xp and i would like to set it up in a virtual machine. Any recommendations for which VM to use?04:25
royelArso: ext3 is being used04:25
royelArso: among others04:25
Arsoroyel i see. ty :)04:26
geniiaricz: The next thing would be then to repeat this whole process with the other drive (swap them out)04:26
ariczgenii : hehe, I never did that:) changing the jumper on the back of my DVD-rom .. it's still on the left04:26
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Torahteenmc44 and nerdygirl_ellie: I've turned it off for a sec04:26
ariczgenii : sorry, I wasn't paying enough attention, I'll try put that jumper on the rightmost "jumperslot" ..04:26
OldPinkArso, ext3 is the most common. There's also reiserfs, fat32, ext2...04:26
Moduliz0rcan someone assist me with setting up Hybserv to work with  ircd-hybrid?04:26
TorahteenShould I just try what nerdygirl_ellie said?04:26
berentif i burn puppy linux into a cd-r can i remaster it later04:26
darkempressi just files a bug report for gxine, it's Bug #126984 on the launchpad thingy04:26
geniiaricz: OK then. You will need to power off then do it, then power on again04:26
mc44Torahteen: you could try asking in #ubuntu-effects for more help, I dunno what it could be04:26
darkempress*filed04:26
ariczgenii : will do sir.. ! :)04:26
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ArsoOldPink i see, so, how do you think i should go about it?04:27
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edgyHi, when I run nmap -sP as root it shows me more devices than when I run it as a normal user, what's the logic please?04:27
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royelArso: windows first, linux last :)04:27
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darkempressedgy, normal user does not have access to all the devices aparently04:27
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eroyel, I got it working, I was working with samba, but I didn't have necessary packages to understand the fs04:28
Moduliz0rcan someone assist me with setting up Hybserv to work with  ircd-hybrid?04:28
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Arsoroyel so should i format the whole drive first, then partition 30gb of it as ntfs for windows, then run the ubuntu installation, and format the unpartitioned space as ext3 and the swap?04:28
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royelArso: 40g is not alot to work with if XP is for gaming, only you can know for sure how much space you'll need for games, just keep that in mind an then while installing XP set the partition on that drive to a size you can live with, for Linux just use the remaining "free" space04:28
OldPinkArso, insert the LiveCD for Ubuntu, boot it, hit system, then administration, then GNOME Partition Editor and set up your structure.04:28
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Ind[y] I have disabled System Beep from GNOME, but it still beeps in console. How do I disable it from there, as well?04:29
edgydarkempress: I think you didn't understand my question. I mean by devices the other computers in the network04:29
Absenthcan anyone see what is preventing all users from being able to write to shares in the following /etc/fstab entry04:29
Absenth//jdrpdc/imaging /media/imaging cifs credentials=/etc/credentials,rw,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,noauto,noperm 0 004:29
Arsoroyel i think its enough, i dont play that many games simultaneously anyway, so i can have at least 4/5 games at a time. good enough for me04:29
geniiAFK 3-4 minutes, work04:29
edgyInd[y] : setting -> bell -> none04:30
royelArso: the Ubuntu installer will set up partitions automagically, the days of manually setting up partitions an swap space are not needed, although I prefer to manage my partitions myself. The installer does handle it fairly well04:30
Ind[y] edgy: setting?04:30
Moduliz0rcan someone help me with setting up Hybserv to work with  ircd-hybrid?04:30
darkempressedgy, if regular user doesn't have permissions to see them, then it wont show them04:30
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Ind[y] edgy: where is that?04:30
Arsoroyel i see04:30
edgyInd[y] : ah! you mean console not Konsole?04:30
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Ind[y] yes04:30
edgyInd[y] : unload the speaker module04:30
Ind[y] I don't mean some terminal, but the actual console04:30
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Ind[y] edgy: but then, I will have no sound at all. right?04:31
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dna_how can i change the mac address of eth0 permanently?04:31
ariczHehe, for some reason X wouldn't start up now .. :)04:31
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royelArso: as for formatting, the XP installer gives you a option to format and change the drive, so that would be where you would remove any partitions an resize for XP, at least thats how I would do it.04:31
ariczanyways.. lets check this out04:31
Da1nt04:31
edgyInd[y] : you would have sound from your audio card but not the beep which comes from the built-in pc speaker04:31
Arsoroyel OldPink : i am already downloading ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso , should i pause that and get the livecd first? or does itself work as a livecd or what.04:31
Arsothis itself*04:31
edgyInd[y] : sudo modprobe -r pcspkr04:31
royelArso: it is the livecd04:31
geniiaricz: I need to be on phone a couple minutes but I'm around04:32
Ind[y] edgy: will I have any consequences from that? I mean, any disadvantages?04:32
Arsoroyel ah great.04:32
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edgyInd[y] : no04:32
magnetronArso: the Ubuntu cd is the live cd04:32
Arsoroyel omg ,i think iam out of dvds :S04:32
royelArso: unless you specifically download the alternate install disc04:32
Ind[y] edgy: ok. how can I make this permanent?04:32
Arsomagnetron i see, ty04:32
edgyInd[y] : just will disable the beeps04:32
OldPinkArso, that is the liveCD ;)04:32
Arsoroyel no , i didnt04:32
royelArso: can't help you there :)04:32
ArsoOldPink i see, ty04:32
edgyInd[y] : if it works for you put it in modprobe.conf04:32
Ind[y] edgy: ok. thanks a lot :)04:32
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OldPinkArso, although recent experience with a 256MB laptop and royel's help has led me to love the alternate CD :P04:32
NutubuntuI have an onboard nVidia 6150 and have been using nvidia-glx. aptitude never suggested this before, but this morning it tells me that I ought to remove nvidia-glx and install nvidia-glx-legacy instead. Why would it suddenly "decide" this -- and which one should I really be using with my onboard 6150?04:32
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ArsoOldPink what is this alternate cd?04:33
ariczgenii : I ejected the dvd-rom.. now it won't close again.. hehe04:33
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royelOldPink: I told you, alternate install ftw ! :)04:33
edgyInd[y] : you are welcome04:33
OldPinkArso, text based installler. For crappy/old/slow systems04:33
Arsoah04:33
royel!alternate | Arso04:33
ubotuArso: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal04:33
Ind[y] edgy: worked. thanks a lot, again. what exactly should I put in modprobe.conf, and where is that file?04:33
geniiaricz: sudo eject -t /dev/hdd04:33
Arsohmm, my system is fine, i dont think i need that04:33
defryskOldPink, also for proper and fast systems ;p04:33
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ariczgenii : ok, still can't find the device drivers for it..04:34
NutubuntuAlso for fast new systems in which you want to control how the installation goes, or run a RAID ... or many other things like that. @ Arso04:34
OldPinkRoyel, I like what ubotu said. I used the alternate CD because I'm an expert. Not because my laptop sucks :P04:34
ArsoOldPink haha :P04:34
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royelOldPink: I use it, my systems are not crappy/old/slow ... notice it reads in the description "expert" installs! ;)04:34
ariczgenii : too bad I don't remember what I did months ago, to get one of the CD-rom or DVD-rom working.. I got the help here, from someone, but I just cut'n'paste everything and don't remember what was done .. ugh04:34
Arsoyour all experts. i am still a n00b :P04:34
OldPinkdefrysk Yeah, I know, I prefer it too now. :P (also applies to royel)04:34
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Arsoi need a simple gui instal04:34
geniiaricz: Does ls /dev/hdd  show it there?04:34
ariczgenii : maybe that's what messing this up now04:34
ariczgenii : nope04:35
OldPinkArso, with 1GB ram, stick to the liveCD04:35
t94xrOldPink: it also provides a semi-quicker installation because theres less in memory to deal with :)04:35
ArsoOldPink great. :)04:35
geniiaricz: Damn04:35
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t94xrOldPink: well thats what i've noticed.04:35
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royelt94xr: thats absolutely true04:35
ArsoOldPink um, where did u say the partitioning thing was ,after i run the liveCD04:35
edgyInd[y] : I have to go now but I guess on /etc/modules  you would find the pcspkr just remove it or find where is it loaded and remove it04:35
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Ind[y] edgy: ok. thanks :)04:36
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geniiaricz: OK, well, now to repeat the entire process but with the CD drive only.eg; swap the drives. Power off, swap, CD=master,end of ribbon etc. You know the drill :)04:36
OldPinkt94xr it was deadly slow yesterday. But it was a legacy system ;)04:36
OldPinkArso, System > Administration > GNOME Partition Editor. Write it down or stick it in tomboy04:36
ArsoWill the internet work right away (dsl) once i am in ubuntu? or will i need to apply any settings?04:36
t94xrOldPink: i always use the alternate cd, cbf yay im in live enviroment sif big deal04:36
OldPinkArso, cable install, and most wifi chipsets will work instantly, some will need configuration04:37
royelArso: You will see a "install" icon on the LiveCD system, just click it to start the install wizard04:37
ariczgenii : yap :) will do04:37
t94xri prefer actually installing the operating system, not running the operating system to install it.04:37
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geniiaricz: OK I'll be around04:37
OldPinkroyel, arso wants to partition first :)04:37
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Arsoyes. i do04:37
Arsoor do i04:37
Arsolol04:37
Arsosame thing right/04:37
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OldPinkroyel, Matt wins. See above04:37
Arsoi can just run the installer, and let it do the partitioning04:37
royelArso: OldPink: meh, XP can do that first, an since you really need to install windows first04:38
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OldPinkroyel, why install windows first?04:38
Arsooh yes, i forgot about xp04:38
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Arso1h 12m left for my download, wee :D04:38
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Arsoi miss ubuntu,04:38
Absenthcan anyone see what is preventing all users from being able to write to shares in the following /etc/fstab entry04:38
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Absenth//jdrpdc/imaging /media/imaging cifs credentials=/etc/credentials,rw,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,noauto,noperm 0 004:38
royelArso: OldPink: grub tends to get removed if you install XP over linux04:38
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Arsoah04:38
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Arsook, i'll install xp first then04:38
royel!grub | Arso04:39
ubotuArso: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:39
OldPinkAbsenth go into terminal. Type:04:39
OldPinkgksudo chmod 777 /etc/fstab -r04:39
Arsoso is it a common issue?04:39
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Arsolosing grub. that is04:39
royelArso: yes04:39
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Arsoi see.04:39
Arsoi'll stick to your order then :)04:39
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nerdygirl_ellieOldPink: why are you asking him to make the fstab writeable?!04:39
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AbsenthOldPink: why am I making the /etc/fstab read/write by all?04:39
OldPinkRoyel, Ah. Once I'd removed XP for Ubuntu, I never reinstalled04:40
royelArso: it's easily remedied, but the best method is win>linux not linux>win :)04:40
taxmanI've installed all the gstreamer plugins, but Rhythmbox still can't play unencrypted m4a files. Ideas?04:40
Arsoso once i have xp, should i partition for ubuntu through the installer, or through OldPink's " System > Administration > GNOME Partition Editor." method04:40
NutubuntuArso,  "issue" suggests a sometimes thing. Windows *always* overwrites :) install Win first if you want to dual boot04:40
geniinerdygirl_ellie: My first thought04:40
Ind[y] How do I disable a kernel module from beeing loaded at each boot?04:40
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nerdygirl_ellieAbsenth: can you read/write it from a winders machine?04:40
royelOldPink: good for you! :)04:40
ArsoNutubuntu i see. will do :)04:40
Absenthnerdygirl_ellie: the share is a samba share on a domain controler04:40
OldPinkabsenth, nerdygirl_ellie: HE said "can anyone see what is preventing all users from being able to write to shares in the following /etc/fstab entry" - I assumed that's what he wanted, sorry04:40
royelOldPink: sadly I may never be rid of win, I have a terrible gaming addiction to feed daily04:40
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Absenthnerdygirl_ellie: the user account specified in the credentials file has full read/write/modify access04:41
Arsoroyel a fellow gamer :)04:41
taxmanInd[y] : I can't recall but man insmod should lead you in the right direction04:41
Jack_SparrowArso: If you leave unallocated drive space the installer does it for you.. It is a bit easier than setting it up yourself04:41
OldPinkroyel, cold turkey it out of there :P04:41
Arsoroyel what do you currently play?04:41
Ind[y] taxman: ok, thanks04:41
royelOldPink: lol, No!!!04:41
berenti am getting a message Do you want to create a disc from the contents of the image or with the image file inside?04:41
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ArsoOldPink gaming is healthy!04:41
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ariczhmhmmhmh04:41
OldPinkArso, Royel, All: brb. Walking dogs. Gaming isn't healthy. It's an ugly, time wasting habit ;)04:41
berenti am getting a message Do you want to create a disc from the contents of the image or with the image file inside? when i try burning puppylinux iso image into cd-r which should i select04:41
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stuart_hm. i can't seem to find or mount my 2nd NTFS HD, it's missing..04:42
ArsoOldPink see you later :).04:42
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royelArso: not much atm, waiting on a few games, Warhammer, Darkfall (should move this type of conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic) :)04:42
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ariczgenii : it found the dvd-rom! I just remembered you told me to go into the bios and put everything on AUTO.. hihi, soooorry, I forgot again.. but still no mount though04:42
taxmanstuart_: does it show up in dmesg |less ?04:42
Arsoroyel i see.04:42
ariczgenii : but dmesg shows it finds it04:42
Jack_Sparrowberent: IN ubuntu it is easy to just right click the iso and select write to disk04:42
Moduliz0rcan someone assist me with setting up Hybserv to work with  ircd-hybrid?04:42
Arsoroyel i tried graw2 last week. nice :D04:42
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geniiaricz: YAY04:42
Arsoroyel back to Ubuntu.04:42
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berentin ubuntu only i am getting this message04:43
Arsoroyel is it easy to change my proxy to another countries in ubuntu?04:43
royelArso: also afk, for a smoke04:43
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berentin ubuntu only i am getting this message Jack_Sparrow04:43
royelArso: where you from?04:43
Absenthnerdygirl_ellie: for what it's worth I'm using the cifs rather than the smbfs type since Server 2k3 encrypts all traffic to/from shares.  the smbfs type doesn't support this, and disabling the security domain wide didn't sound like a good idea to me :)04:43
Arsoroyel ur full of vices arent u :P04:43
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Arsoroyel U.A.E04:43
Arsoroyel i live there, unfortunately :P04:43
Moduliz0rcan someone assist me with setting up Hybserv to work with  ircd-hybrid?04:43
royelArso: hmm, not sure about the proxy stuff04:43
geniiaricz: Are you tring some standard iso9660 cd in it?04:43
royelArso: dont need that in the states04:43
Arsoroyel coz, u mightve heard, skype and all voip are banned here04:43
Jack_Sparrowberent: What version of ubuntu are you using..04:44
Arsobut i worked around that with windows,04:44
geniieg: old AOL cd or anything similar04:44
nerdygirl_ellieAbsenth: I wasn't going to ask. ;)  Sorry I can't help more, but I saw the chmod/fstab thing and had to pipe up.04:44
frogzooArso: where's "here" ?04:44
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berentfeisty :Jack_Sparrow04:44
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Arsofrogzoo United Arab Emirates04:44
geniinerdygirl_ellie: Yes good call there  by the way04:44
ariczgenii : not sure, but, I should perhaps switch 'hdd' to 'hdc' in fstab04:44
royelArso: I would think there is a method for doing the same in linux, I'm not familiar with it though, I'm sure a google search could produce results04:44
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berentDo you want to create a disc from the contents of the image or with the image file inside? Jack_Sparrow .04:44
royelArso: anyhow, brb in a few minutes04:44
ezeki3lhttp://lantis.iqaeda.info/msgs/rebeca.jpg <- nice, beautiful girl04:44
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geniiaricz: Not yet04:44
Arsoroyel great, i'll see you then.04:44
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frogzooArso: banned for religious reasons?04:44
Jack_Sparrowberent: Do you get an option when you right click the ISO to Write to Disk?04:44
geniiaricz: First do: ls /dev/hdd   and see if that exists04:45
Arsofrogzoo no, banned coz the isp are monopolizing mofos04:45
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ariczgenii : nothing04:45
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berentyes. Jack_Sparrow .04:45
berentafter that i get this. Jack_Sparrow .04:45
leo|termexit04:45
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ariczgenii : but there's /dev/hdc now04:45
geniiaricz: OK, so then now: ls /dev/hdc and see if that exists04:45
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Jack_Sparrowberent: When you click that you get the other message?04:45
Arsofrogzoo until last year, there was a single isp in the whole country, so they didnt want ppl to use cheap voip, so they banned it.04:45
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geniiAricz Heh, yer getting the hang of it now04:45
berentyes. Jack_Sparrow .04:45
stuart_taxman, i did dmesg |less and a bunch of stuff came up, but doesn't have anything to do with HD's I think04:46
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Arsofrogzoo the new isp is just an illusion. the old one owns more than half of it.04:46
Ind[y] Come on now, guys. Nobody knows how can I disable a module?04:46
Ind[y] insmod does not do the trick04:46
berentwhat should i select- a file or an image? Jack_Sparrow .04:46
capitalideaIf anyone could help me a bit with some JACKd issues I am having... I would be much obliged.04:46
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geniiaricz: OK, so do the gksu gedit of fstab then just change hdd for now to hdc04:46
NutubuntuI have an onboard nVidia 6150 and have been using nvidia-glx. aptitude never suggested this before, but this morning it tells me that I ought to remove nvidia-glx and install nvidia-glx-legacy instead. Why would it suddenly "decide" this -- and which one should I really be using with my onboard 6150?04:46
nerdygirl_ellieInd[y] : disable a module.. create an entry for it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklisted I think.  one sec.04:46
geniiaricz: Then eject/reinsert tray with a cd04:46
Arsofrogzoo okay then :S04:47
ariczgenii : Error writing fstab: Read-only file system04:47
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ezeki3lhttp://lantis.iqaeda.info/msgs/rebeca.jpg <-- my output log on a binary telemetry frame editor04:47
Jack_Sparrowberent: I have never seen that prompt and it isnt clear but I would assume that you want to make a disk with the content of the image04:47
Arsohahahahahahah04:47
ariczgenii : as I said, I got some weird errors at startup this time.. X didn't start.. hehe04:47
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Ind[y] nerdygirl_ellie: ok, I am waiting :)04:47
stuart_fdisk -l shows that I have a /dev/hdb but I can't mount it, or see my data in there04:47
Jack_Sparrowberent: At the worst, you waste a cd..04:47
Arsoezeki3l lol/04:47
ariczgenii : not sure if that has anything to do with the fact I can't 'sudo pico fstab' at the moment04:47
geniiaricz Did you get some error about fsck and / or root filesystem being unclean at boot?04:47
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Arsoum guys, how are nvidia drivers on linux? i have a 7950gt04:48
elkbuntumc44, wot?04:48
mc44elkbuntu: ezeki3l = potter spam04:48
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berenti selected to write image and clicked write and it says there was a write error. what does this mean Jack_Sparrow .04:48
geniiaricz You booted to hard drive and not to CD, yes?04:48
ariczgenii : I didn't see, the boot goes pretty fast.. and I don't know what to grep from dmesg either :)04:48
taxmanstuart_: what does fdisk -l say the partitions are on hdb04:48
ariczgenii : oh yes, it's hard drive04:48
frogzooArso: gksudo pico fstab - or sudo vi fstab04:48
elkbuntumc44, hhee04:48
nerdygirl_ellieInd[y] : gksu gedit  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add a line like blacklist yourmodulenamehere04:48
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nerdygirl_ellieInd[y] : then reboot.*04:48
Ind[y] nerdygirl_ellie: ok, thanks a lot :)04:48
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Cyber_Stalker!nvidia | Arso04:49
ubotuArso: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:49
Arsofrogzoo i am not on linux yet, still download ubuntu, what are those?04:49
nerdygirl_ellieInd[y] : yes, there are ways not to reboot, no I don't know them04:49
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mc44elkbuntu: not funny :( :p04:49
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Jack_Sparrowberent: Something is wrong with that whole setup, the question it asks and now an error.. HAve you installed anything into Ubuntu with a script like Automatix or Envy.. both are bad ideas04:49
elkbuntumc44, i was referring to the speed he left when you said that04:49
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mc44elkbuntu: hehe :)04:49
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elkbuntumc44, see, is funny ;)04:49
nerdygirl_elliethat was funny elk.  Know somebody?04:49
stuart_taxman, Disk /dev/hdb: 10.2 GB, 10242892800 bytes04:49
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elkbuntunerdygirl_ellie, huh?04:49
berentno. Jack_Sparrow .04:50
geniiaricz Bleh I currently gone blank, trying to rememner remount into rw method04:50
askandI dont have anything in the rightclick menu "create document" on the desktop..why?04:50
taxmanstuart_: that's it? no partion lines after that?04:50
nerdygirl_ellieelkbuntu: Congratulations on what has to be the shortest IRC moderation ever.04:50
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Arsodoes ubuntu need a cd or a dvd?04:50
Arso:04:50
Arso:P04:50
ariczgenii : hehe, that's allright, going through dmesg now04:50
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Jack_Sparrowberent: Your system is not behaving like a standard install .  HAs differnt options and now errors so I will be of no help.04:50
nerdygirl_ellieArso: No, they have some of there own, but thanks for offering.04:51
stuart_taxman, not sure if i can paste other junk here, but:04:51
frogzooArso: soz nvm, mt04:51
ariczgenii : [17179592.624000]  EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "erro" or missing value .. not sure if I've seen that one before04:51
stuart_/dev/hdb1               1        1244     9992398+   7  HPFS/NTFS04:51
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elkbuntunerdygirl_ellie, thanks04:51
berentit asks write disk to : dvd rw / file image which one to select?. Jack_Sparrow .04:51
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frogzooaricz: gksudo pico fstab - or sudo vi fstab04:51
ianRGgreets gents04:51
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HEP85!anything04:51
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.04:51
taxmanstuart_: ok that looks good, so what happens when you try to mount it?04:51
ariczfrogzoo : didn't work.. not sure if vi would make any difference though, but that editor.. t00 l33t for me.. :)04:51
Arsofrogzoo k.04:51
Jack_Sparrowberent: It wants to write a 70 meg file to a DVD?  Where did you get that image from04:51
stuart_taxman, mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab04:52
ianRGif a tutorial tells me to compile a "*.c" file with gcc04:52
geniiaricz Ah. I am thinking now the cut/paste into fstab got cropped over lines. eg: what should have been only a single lineis now over 2 lines (not good)04:52
Arsonerdygirl_ellie hahahah. i actually laughed, thank you04:52
ariczgenii : just get a message 'device is busy'04:52
nerdygirl_ellie!compile | ianRG04:52
ianRGwhat do i use instead of gcc?04:52
ubotuianRG: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:52
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ariczgenii : ahhhhh.. hoho :)04:52
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frogzooaricz: does 'groups' show you belong to 'admin'?04:52
ariczgenii : but, I can't edit fstab now.. hehe04:52
berentno. it asks to write disc to DVD-RW drive!!!! / file image . quite weird .Jack_Sparrow .04:52
ariczfrogzoo : yap04:52
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Jack_Sparrowberent: What all have you installed or added to your system and HOW did you add or install them04:53
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geniiaricz Actually you should be able to, by remounting / with read write04:53
berenti have never installed nero drivers for this dvd drive . should i?. Jack_Sparrow .04:53
Arsoubuntu comes with an irc client, right?04:53
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frogzooArso: gksudo xclock ?04:53
nerdygirl_ellieArso: really though, you can install from CD or DVD.  It depends on how much time you want to spend downloading.04:53
ariczgenii : how do I do that?04:53
geniiaricz Just trying to remember safe way to do this :/04:53
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Jack_Sparrowberent: NO04:54
frogzooArso: soz again :p04:54
nerdygirl_ellieArso: irc client, yes, gaim.04:54
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Arsofrogzoo i swear i am not on linux yet :S i am on windwos.04:54
frogzooaricz: gksudo xclock ?04:54
genii1 minute, looking it up04:54
ariczgenii : hehe.. :)04:54
berentok. Jack_Sparrow .04:54
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Jack_Sparrowberent: You are using Nero?04:54
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ariczfrogzoo : cannot open display04:54
Arsonerdygirl_ellie gaim , didnt it become pidgin or something :P04:54
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frogzooaricz: you on beryl?04:54
ariczfrogzoo : I'm not in X.. it won't start.. console here04:54
royelArso: yes, I think so04:55
nerdygirl_ellieArso: The time spent downloadint Ubuntu on DVD seems wasted to me, because you are just going to redownload most of the files again when you update.04:55
ariczfrogzoo : and yup, beryl is installed04:55
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frogzooaricz: well if you're not in console, nano won't work04:55
berentthe nero cd i have states it is vista ready. Jack_Sparrow04:55
HEP85Arso: on feisty it is still gaim, pidgin will be in gutsy04:55
frogzooaricz: well if you're not in X, nano won't work04:55
stuart_so what do I do when I get "mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" when I try to mount my other HD?04:55
Arsonerdygirl_ellie i am already almost done with the CD04:55
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Arsonerdygirl_ellie i'll download the stuff manually when i update i guess.04:55
berentsince i already have drivers here i dont think they are needed. Jack_Sparrow04:55
Jack_Sparrowberent: You said you were in Ubuntu NOT in Vista..04:55
ariczfrogzoo : problem is the / is in read-only mode04:55
Arsonerdygirl_ellie does it auto update?04:55
nerdygirl_elliefrogzoo: ?  nano works at a command line.04:55
royelfrogzoo: why not, I dont have X on my server an I use nano all the time04:55
Arsonerdygirl_ellie does ubuntu read/write on ntfs?04:56
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nerdygirl_ellieArso: yes.  It's automatic!04:56
frogzoonerdygirl_ellie: oh thx, didn't know04:56
nerdygirl_ellieArso: Yes.04:56
Arsonerdygirl_ellie phew!04:56
nerdygirl_elliefrogzoo: gedit is gui only.04:56
berentyes of course but the driver cd which i got from vendor along with dvd writer has vista ready on it is what i said. Jack_Sparrow .04:56
Arsonerdygirl_ellie but can i make the primary partition ntfs too, instead of ext3?04:56
Arsobrb/04:56
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nerdygirl_ellieArso: No.04:56
Jack_Sparrowberent: Ok.. No you wont need that...04:57
frogzooaricz: well why is / ro? did / fsck ?04:57
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Jack_Sparrowberent: What all have you installed or added to your system and HOW did you add or install them04:57
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ariczfrogzoo : the fstab got.. um, a bit cluttered.. it cut some lines where it shouldn't04:57
berentfeisty. Jack_Sparrow .04:57
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ariczfrogzoo : when I pasted something .. :)04:57
nerdygirl_ellieArso: that's a no with an *, the * is for you might be able to if you were an uberpenguin, but then you wouldn't want to.04:57
Jack_Sparrowberent: There is something you are not telling me... Soething changed your setup04:57
Jack_Sparrowsomething04:57
nerdygirl_ellieJack_Sparrow: ('history') is your friend.04:58
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berenti changed vga configuration to nvidia drivers. Jack_Sparrow .04:58
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frogzooaricz: ls -l /etc/fstab~04:58
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berentthat's all since i got this rw drive Jack_Sparrow .04:58
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geniiaricz: OK, I think you should at this point just run the filesystem check and let fsck clean and make it readable/writeable for next boot other than trying the unmount/remount rw method.04:58
Jack_Sparrowberent: Not just since you got the new drive04:59
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geniiaricz: It will just be safer04:59
GMWeezelwhen can i get visualizations other than goom?04:59
berentthen from when do you want the history? Jack_Sparrow .04:59
GMWeezel*where04:59
ariczgenii : I just do a 'fsck' ?04:59
berent!iso04:59
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.04:59
berenti also tried mounting using above command from !iso. Jack_Sparrow .05:00
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frogzoogenii: from the sound of things, aricz /etc/fstab is badly messed up05:00
Jack_Sparrowberent: You have installed something that changed your system... You are the only one that would know what it might be.  You said you never used automatix or envy scripts...05:00
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ariczfrogzoo : it's not badly messed up.. there's 1 line there (line 10 to be exact) that should be pasted to line 9 to finish of line 9 perfectly.. :)05:00
zepolenhelp! ubuntu works perfectly for me, i dont have any problems...this is not what linux should be like05:00
nerdygirl_ellieIt is my opinion that the "your drive has errors, check forced" screen needs to be made more intuitive for non-tech users.  I had to go to my moms to do an fsck -a.  It needs a "Click here to fix it" button or "Do you want me to fix everything?" prompt.05:00
berentwhen did i say that? Jack_Sparrow .05:00
ariczfrogzoo : but, I can't edit it now.. as / is r-only05:01
Jack_Sparrowberent: Have you used either of those05:01
geniiaricz: Actually the better (proper way) would be to do: reboot    then hit ESC when grub begins. then choose safe kernel  to boot. After that comes up you can safely run fsck without any arguments. After it cleans the drive, do again: reboot then ESC and choose the one it was using normally05:01
royelzepolen: want me to fix it for you :) <grins>05:01
nerdygirl_elliezepolen: install binary video card drivers.05:01
royelnerdygirl_ellie: lol05:01
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Jack_Sparrowberent: I ased specifically and you said No..05:01
Jack_Sparrowasked05:01
zepolenroyel: no thanks i dont want automatix05:01
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nerdygirl_elliezepolen: or the samsung drivers I read about on /. this morning.05:01
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ariczgenii : ok, fsck won't run now.. tells me there's an error in /etc/fstab05:01
berentno Jack_Sparrow : i don't find them in synaptic as green(installed) either.05:01
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geniifrogzoo: I'm pretty sure when it was copied from pastebin into the file there were line breaks in the middle of some entries05:02
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frogzooaricz: fsck / - 'fsck /dev/###' - then  mount it so you can edit it 'mount /dev/### /mnt'05:02
nerdygirl_elliezepolen: or for some real fun, see what all those SELinux commands do. :)05:02
Jack_Sparrowberent: I didnt ask if they were installed I asked if you EVER used EITHER of them05:02
HEP85what happens if I remove the currently running kernel?05:02
zepolenlike you could consider driver issues a problem - i even got my integrated sd card reader working05:02
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zepolenwhich was nice considering it didnt work under windows :p05:02
ariczgenii : it could be like that.. I cut it from lynx.. and pasted it without checking for the linebreaks.. hehe05:02
_imran_can i move my workspace switcher to the top taskbar, if so, how do i do that?05:02
Moduliz0rhow do I add something to the startup in Ubuntu server?05:02
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royelHEP85: remove it?05:02
ikoniaModuliz0r what version05:02
berentNo. Jack_Sparrow .05:02
geniiaricz:  When I told you earlier to backup your fstab file, did you do that?05:02
Moduliz0r7.0405:02
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nerdygirl_ellieHEP85: Are you upgrading?05:02
Jack_Sparrowberent: Sorry, See if someone else can help you..05:03
ariczgenii : yap, it's in /etc/backup05:03
dsgomg i was using a barber on my head at 21mm earlier today when it went out of battery, so i was to continue now but it was set to 2mm, which i didnt notice before i started using it ;( and im going to netherland on holiday tomorow05:03
ikonia!upstart >Moduliz0r05:03
lousygaruahello, how can i make a copy of a small site? any quick spider apps or smt similar?05:03
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HEP85nerdygirl_ellie: No. It is just a hypothetical question. I just wanted to know if you can do that and if it breaks your system05:03
zepolenlousygarua: httrack05:03
ariczgenii : but there's no problem, I'll just have to do a easy BACKSPACE on the first char at line10 to get it up to line9.. that's all there is05:03
ikoniadsg is that anything to do with ubuntu ?05:03
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nerdygirl_elliedsg: Fuzzy? :)05:03
ikonia wget05:03
CaptLloyddsg: haha, ok, funny05:03
ariczgenii : problem is I can't edit and save :)05:03
lousygaruazepolen: thx will check it out05:03
IntuitiveNippledsg: file it as a bug :)05:03
CaptLloyddsg: something similar happened to me05:03
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geniiaricz fine. Then since hardware now sees DVD, put in the livecd, boot to that and then mount the drive there, copy the backup over the defective one05:03
_imran_can i move my workspace switcher to the top taskbar, if so, how do i do that?05:04
zuzuzzziphi everybody :)05:04
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royelHEP85: you can do it, your system won't boot again, unless you have an alternate kernel to use :)05:04
ikonia_imran_ right click on it and look at the move option05:04
ariczgenii : don't have the livecd..05:04
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nerdygirl_ellieHEP85: You can't do it with apt or dpkg, without forcing it.  It you do force it, you will break your system and have to fix it from the CD or something similar.05:04
_imran_ikonia, seems simple enough05:04
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ikonia_imran_ good05:04
ariczgenii : but can't I just .. uhm, esc at grub, safe-mode.. and edit from there?05:04
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HEP85royel: but will the system crash at once or only after reboot?05:04
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ariczgenii : or is there nothing I can do to make / rw again?05:04
nerdygirl_ellieHEP85: Root has permission to do almost anything.  It doesn't mean she should.05:05
_imran_ikonia, the move option cannot be selected05:05
zuzuzzzipi have a problem with my sound, both left and right of my Analog Front only come through left channel05:05
nerdygirl_ellieHEP85: it will run fine until a reboot.05:05
shootersHi, I'm trying to convert a .flv video to .mpg using mencoder, but I always get a Buffer Overflow error, is there a way I can dump the video to a file and then encode it?05:05
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ikonia_imran_ try just dragging it05:05
geniiarcade: Yeah you can do the grub/safe05:05
zuzuzzzipso its like stereo on one speaker > mono05:05
berentIs there any command running on terminal to burn image . Jack_Sparrow05:05
_imran_ikonia, doesnt work05:05
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age6racerhi all, does anyone know if there is a command to put a laptop on standby from the command line? I basically want to map a button on my keyboard to the standby button05:05
ikoniaberent cdrecord05:05
kuruminhi05:05
royelHEP85: it loads the kernel in memory, so only after a reboot05:05
nerdygirl_ellieshooters: movie from youtube?05:05
ikonia_imran_ surprising05:05
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shootersnerdygirl_ellie: ya05:05
ariczgenii : okioki, will do.. tatua, and still, thanks for the great help I get here :)05:05
IntuitiveNippleage6racer: "sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh force"05:06
zepolenshooters: why do you want to convert an flv05:06
berentikonia : thnks.05:06
HEP85nerdygirl_ellie, royel: Thanks for the info05:06
zepolenmplayer plays them just fine05:06
_imran_ikonia, i managed to find a way, thanks anyway05:06
nerdygirl_ellieshooters: I use the videodownloader plugin for mozilla, and I can usually save them in mp4.05:06
robert_mplayer crashes for me05:06
royelHEP85: <ponders HEP85's intentions> :)05:06
ikonia_imran_ well done05:06
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geniiwork, AFK05:06
shooterszepolen: I can't play them in VLC, and can't move them forward in mplayer...05:06
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zuzuzzziprobert_: try vlc05:06
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zepolenvlc is gay though05:07
_imran_ikonia, do you know how to put the programs i am running onto the top taskbar like kde?05:07
shootersnerdygirl_ellie: you get it using synaptic?05:07
zuzuzzzipyeah but it works05:07
zepoleni saw him making out with gxine05:07
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nerdygirl_ellieshooters: no, it's a mozilla plugin05:07
ikonia_imran_ you need to swap the top and bottom task bars around, just drag them05:07
robert_the only reason I like mplayer is it's cross-platform05:07
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LinuturkI run a ubuntu server. when I go to sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade, kernel packages usually say "automatically held back"     how do I get these new kernels to install on my server?05:07
HEP85royel: just told a friend how to update the kernel and I said he can remove the old one after the update. but I forgot to say only after rebooting with the new05:07
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zuzuzzzipeven totem plays flv05:08
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ikoniaLinuturk check the logs to see why they are held back05:08
HEP85royel: so I wanted to know if he could have broken his system05:08
mribasmerica05:08
_imran_ikonia, i don't mean like that, i only want to have 1 taskbar, but i don't know if that's possible (kde has 1 taskbar)05:08
ikonia_imran_ you can delete one task bar05:08
Linuturkikonia, where are those logs?05:08
capitalideaGreat. I get NO sound out of Audacity and Ardour is unable to import MP3s... Linux has failed me for audio editing.05:08
royelHEP85: I see.. theres no real reason to remove the old one, unless space is an issue05:08
ikoniaLinuturk /var/log05:08
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Linuturkikonia, right, but what specific one?05:08
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HEP85royel: Well. I'm kind of a pedant05:10
taxmanstuart_: sorry had a phone call, did your problem get solved?05:10
royelHEP85: lol05:10
ariczgenii : in safemode now, still r-only05:10
robert_now I'm stuck using the stupid framebuffer05:10
ikoniaLinuturk and you're running a server ?05:10
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zuzuzzzipdoes anyone know alot about ubuntu's sound?05:10
ikoniazuzuzzzip just ask the question05:10
NutubuntuI have an onboard nVidia 6150 and have been using nvidia-glx. aptitude never suggested this before, but this morning it tells me that I ought to remove nvidia-glx and install nvidia-glx-legacy instead. Why would it suddenly "decide" this -- and which one should I really be using with my onboard 6150?05:10
zuzuzzzipi already did05:10
zuzuzzzipi have a problem with my sound, both left and right of my Analog Front only come through left channel05:10
ikoniazuzuzzzip I didn't see it05:10
_imran_ikonia, yes, i know, but the how do i know what programs i'm running unless i can put it on the top taskbar05:10
zuzuzzzipand it used to works05:10
Linuturkikonia, lol, yeah. aptitude log has [?????????]  next to linux-image-server package05:10
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Linuturkikonia, gotta learn somewhere, right?05:11
Moduliz0rhow do I start a program as another user in upstart?05:11
zuzuzzzipjust one day it stopped05:11
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CaptLloydquitters05:11
Linuturkwhich is the package that was held back ikonia05:11
zepolenhelp i have a problem with windows vista05:11
HEP85_imran_: rightclick the panel and add the window list applet05:11
ikoniazepolen this is ubuntu support05:12
Linuturkzepolen, format c:\05:12
zuzuzzzipzepolen: lol05:12
Linuturk;p05:12
zepolenwhat!05:12
ikoniaLinuturk it doesn't give any reason why it was held back05:12
ikoniaLinuturk try using apt to update05:12
_imran_HEP85, thaks05:12
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_imran_*thanks05:12
nerdygirl_elliezepolen: A lot of people have problems with Vista.  It's expensive, insecure, and morally dirty among other things.05:12
HEP85_imran_: you're welcome05:12
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bullgard4How to use the program Tracker via Nautilus? I do not understand the section 'Tracker And Nautilus Search' in /usr/share/doc/tracker-search-tool/README.gz.05:12
zepolenbut its windows, windows iz betta05:13
nerdygirl_elliezepolen: ... and that's just my problems with it. :)05:13
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geniiBack05:13
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ikoniazepolen please don't dicuss windows in ubuntu support05:13
geniiaricz: Here?05:13
sunkenzepolen: and it has limits to TCP connections05:13
Moduliz0rHow do I start a program under another user  in upstart?05:13
ariczgenii : yapyap05:13
ikoniazepolen ##windows is a good channel for discussion on windows05:13
ariczgenii : :)05:13
ikonia!upstart >Moduliz0r05:13
zepolenikonia: i get kicked out of there :p05:13
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Linuturkikonia, The following packages have been held back: linux-image-server05:13
Moduliz0ri know what upstart is!05:13
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Moduliz0rand Im no the website!05:13
ikoniazepolen thats no reason to bring it in here05:13
Moduliz0ron*05:13
zepoleni see05:13
geniiaricz: Did you do reboot/grub/safe ?05:13
Linuturkikonia, this isn't a development server either, I believe it is edgy or feisty server (most likely edgy)05:13
Moduliz0rbut it doesnt tell me how to run under another user05:14
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HEP85zepolen: what's your problem?05:14
nerdygirl_ellieikonia: I think he's making a joke. :)05:14
ariczgenii : yup, I'm in safemode now.. but / was still r-only05:14
ikoniaLinuturk what do you mean - you believe05:14
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ikoniaLinuturk: you get the same error using apt-get ?05:14
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nerdygirl_ellieHEP85: Problem #1, it's out of the shrink-wrap.05:14
bmmAny MOTU: any comments are welcome on the new upload of inotify. I've gotten the menu item to work and now I'm looking for my first advocate. Please see: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=610305:14
royelNutubuntu: was trying to dig something up on that, seems strange, I certainly would NOT change the driver05:14
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zepolenHEP85: with vista? - that the box it came in smelled funny05:14
royelNutubuntu: the 6150, if I'm correct is not that old05:14
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zepolenlike old cheese, or my feet05:14
Nutubunturoyel, I can't find anything on it either - am *not* changing the driver; one thing I *did* find was that the 6150 should take glx not legacy05:15
dyrnezepolen: its the brimstone05:15
ikoniazepolen please stop talkinb about vista05:15
HEP85zepolen: now I know why you were kicked from their channel05:15
zepolenHEP85: yep :)05:15
royelNutubuntu: correct05:15
stuart_taxman, not yet05:15
Linuturkikonia, this server has been off for a while. It is a vmware server, and we needed to startup an image. and, it holds back the package with both apt-get and aptitude. I don't think it's an error per say, more like it doesn't want to update that particular package. This is a meta package that depends on the most recent image server kernel05:15
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Nutubuntut/y royel - and g'day to all; be back later :)05:15
bmmbye05:15
Poul|raiderwhat version is beryl current in?05:15
ikoniaLinuturk have you rebooted the server to make sure your previous updates where applied05:15
geniiaricz: OK, well try then: umount / ; mount -o rw /05:15
taxmanstuart_: ok, what are you doing to mount it. From Places or from a command line?05:15
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ikoniaLinuturk: I've seen it do that if previous updates have not been applied05:16
stuart_taxman, found a site that asked me to mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/new but it still doesn't work05:16
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catskulMy coworker just did a routine update which included a kernel apparently and now refuses to boot completely because of some nvidia driver problem... anyone heard of anything like this recently ?05:16
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ikoniastuart_ sudo05:16
zepolenchrist is canonical paying you guys or do you do it on your own time?05:16
ikoniacatskul nvidia won't stop it booting05:16
Moduliz0rHow do I run a program under a different user in Ubuntu!?05:16
ariczgenii : ok, need to quit bitchx for that.. no more ttys open.. just this one .. umount / ; mount -o rw /05:16
Linuturkikonia, no I haven't rebooted, but no kernel updates were applied in the last cycle. just programs like samba and firefox05:16
stuart_mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, or too many mounted systems05:16
raindancerPoul|raider: Beryls development is discontinued.05:16
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Linuturkikonia, and some X components05:16
geniiaricz: Yes, with the ;05:16
ikoniaLinuturk thats very strange, I can't believe your not getting any warnings. Anything in the syslog05:16
bullgard4Using the 'Create_Launcher' dialog I created a panel applet. It works all right. What is the filename of this Launcher?05:16
erUSULModuliz0r: with sudo ;)05:16
catskulikonia, it will stop it from starting X05:16
IntuitiveNipplecatskul: Sounds like the coworker has the Nvidia driver, which will need rebuilding if the kernel version changes05:16
zepolenwish i found this channel 10 years ago when i first started using linux :/05:16
taxmanstuart_: try sudo mkdir /media/hdb1 ; mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb105:17
ikoniastuart_ what type of FS is it05:17
Moduliz0rNot under root :/05:17
ikoniacatskul yes it, will, but thats not what you said05:17
raindancerPoul|raider: get Compiz instead. They merged...05:17
Poul|raiderraindancer, oki :) half a year since i last booted linux so arent up to date :)05:17
stuart_it's NTFS05:17
zuzuzzzipis there any other support channel that's less crowded?05:17
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taxmanstuart_: that command failed because -t ext3 is telling it the wrong fs type05:17
Moduliz0rHow do I run a program under another user (NOT ROOT)05:17
ikoniastuart_ right so thats why -t ext3 itsn't working05:17
swmiller6Poul|raider: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48131405:17
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ikoniastuart_: -t ntfs05:17
catskulikonia, what is included in the boot process is open for debate05:17
raindancerPoul|raider just search for Open Compositing05:17
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ikoniaModuliz0r start it as another use or use sudo -c05:17
catskulIntuitiveNipple, no.. its a standard package05:17
Poul|raiderraindancer05:17
Ramywhat's the keyboard shortcut for show desktop ?05:17
erUSULModuliz0r: sudo <user> command (i told you already)05:17
Poul|raiderok05:17
Poul|raiderraindancer, ok :)05:17
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zepolenPoul|raider: dont type sudo :/05:17
ikoniacatskul not really - launching X is not "failing to boot"05:17
ikoniacatskul if your nvidia driver is wrong - update it to a compatible version05:18
Moduliz0rNot helpful.05:18
IntuitiveNipplecatskul: "nvidia" or "nv" driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?05:18
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HEP85Moduliz0r: with su05:18
zuzuzzzipRamy: look in your beryl manager shortcus05:18
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stuart_haha05:18
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stuart_dang! okayyyy05:18
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Moduliz0rLets say I wanted to run /usr/bin/lololol as the user jesus05:18
Sivik__!grub05:18
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:18
ikoniastuart_ you get it ?05:18
stuart_thanks. but what chmod do i need to set for a normal user to see the dir.05:18
Poul|raideranyway, gotta figure out how to remove this beryl stuff i got now then :)05:18
Moduliz0rhow would I do that from the command line?05:18
stuart_yup i did. thanks agani.05:18
Linuturkikonia, nothing of revelance int he syslog. Just some floppy errors from the virtual os trying to pull from the floppy05:18
ikoniaModuliz0r then you have to be the user jesus - or use sudo -c05:18
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Poul|raiderare there still no sound drivers to x-fi?05:18
taxmanikonia: why isn't his drive showing up in fstab automagically though?05:18
Moduliz0rSUDO -C says its an INVALID OPTION05:18
royelstuart_: 777 will work05:18
catskulikonia: ok but technically if everything else works and the shell fails to start you could still say the system booted... its semantics05:18
ikoniataxman fstab is manually edited05:18
Moduliz0rsudo: illegal option `-c'05:18
ikoniaModuliz0r show me the exact option05:19
ikoniaroyel no it won't05:19
Moduliz0rlee@XNServer:~$ sudo -c05:19
Moduliz0rsudo: illegal option `-c'05:19
Moduliz0rusage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v05:19
Moduliz0rusage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 05:19
Moduliz0r            { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }05:19
Ramy<zuzuzzzip> i'm using metacity ?05:19
ArchoniamAllo... Ugh... Here AGAIN after figuring out my checkinstall problem. My checkinstall keeps getting permission denied anywhere in my homefolder or otherwise. The error is (i say it again, YES i frigging used sudo): /var/tmp/oKAWXAclJQTZiUDRnHLOP/installscript.sh: 4: /home/archoniam/Linux/swftools-0.8.1.tar.gz: Permission denied05:19
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ikoniaroyel you can't change permissions on an nfts drive05:19
royelikonia: why not?05:19
FlannelModuliz0r: Stop pasting.  What are you trying to do with -c?05:19
HEP85Moduliz0r: su user -c /usr/bin/lololol05:19
taxmanstuart_: the commands we gave will mount it manually, you will need to set up fstab to get it to mount automatically if you want that05:19
Moduliz0rSomeone told me to!05:19
catskulIntuitiveNipple, its the propriatary nvidia so 'nvidia' but its the standard package installed via apt-get05:19
zuzuzzzipoh05:19
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royelikonia: he is changing the permission on the mount point05:19
FlannelModuliz0r: alright, but for what reason?05:19
taxmanikonia: no, mine was created automagically05:19
ikoniaroyel so ?05:19
ikoniaroyel ntfs is read only05:19
ikoniataxman shouldn't be, /etc/mtab should be not fstab05:20
robert_brb05:20
royelikonia: yes, but the mount point is not05:20
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stuart_taxman, yep, read on the site and I added a line to /etc/fstab. if it doesn't mount the next time ill come back here no worreis :D05:20
zepolenntfs is most definitely not read only05:20
_imran_is it a bad idea to clock my hardware?05:20
robert_if I come back using bitchx cursing and swearing, this didn't work05:20
robert_heh05:20
Moduliz0rHow would I make it auto-enter the password? This has to be in an auto start thing05:20
stuart_so is it chmod 777 /mnt/hd2 for all access?05:20
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zepolenstop spreading fud ikonia05:20
ikoniastuart_ no no no05:20
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zuzuzzzipRamy: ni beryl its <super>F605:20
ikoniazepolen I'm not - NTFS as a file system driver is read only05:20
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taxmanstuart_: just make sure in your options in fstab you put ro, ntfs doesn't work well rw05:20
Linuturkikonia, any more ideas? I can try a reboot later today after they finish with the virtual OS, but I believe I've tried the rebooting before05:20
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ikoniaLinuturk just fishing around05:20
ariczgenii : hehe, and now /etc/hdc disseapered too.. and no hdd either.. not sure what's going on here05:20
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zepolenikonia: then you mean the LINUX driver for ntfs supports read only05:21
Ramy<zuzuzzzip> sorry, what is meant by super ?05:21
zepolennot that ntfs is read only :p05:21
ikoniazepolen this is a linux channel and the user is using linux - please stop refencing windows05:21
ariczgenii : but umount / and mount -o / .. didn't work either05:21
royelikonia: he asked so other users can see the directory, which is gonna be the mount point05:21
ikoniaModuliz0r: su -c - sorry - not sudo05:21
geniiaricz: For now just worry about getting / clean :) We return to CD/DVD after that05:21
ariczgenii : I'm in 'normal' mode now btw05:21
berentin dmesg it says  This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!. Jack_Sparrow .05:21
zuzuzzzipRamy: its the windows key by default if you have one05:21
_imran_is it a bad idea to clock my hardware?05:21
ikoniaroyel I see what your getting at05:21
Moduliz0rDont worry I am not doing it any more05:21
stuart_do i need to put rw? i just put /dev/hdb1   /mnt/hd2   ntfs    defaults     0 005:21
ariczgenii : ok hehe05:21
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Moduliz0rtoo complicated05:21
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FlannelModuliz0r: with init (and upstart) stuff, you don't use sudo as part of the program running, when it runs, it runs as a different user05:21
Flannel!bum | Moduliz0r05:21
ubotuModuliz0r: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto05:21
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Moduliz0rFlannel I dont want Sudo, just to run a program as another user05:22
geniiaricz: You have more tty then?05:22
ikoniaModuliz0r su -c is your friend05:22
ariczgenii : yap:)05:22
Moduliz0rnot in upstart.05:22
FlannelModuliz0r: you can use sudo to do that, the option is sudo -u [user]  [commands] 05:22
ikoniayup - or sudo -u - good call05:22
Flannelikonia: please don't recommend the use of su here.  thanks05:22
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Moduliz0r>.> I already said I dont want sudo05:22
geniiaricz: OK good. does:  mount          command show / as being rw ?05:22
Moduliz0ranyway i've abandonned that05:22
ikoniaFlannel sudo is a valid option, he's not switinc users to root, but I see what you saying05:22
ikoniaoops05:23
ikoniasu - c05:23
ikoniasu - c not sudo05:23
ikoniaughh05:23
ikoniabad typing sorry05:23
ariczgenii : /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)05:23
Moduliz0rI've abandonned that ffs05:23
geniijust mount  no options05:23
FlannelModuliz0r: Actually, for daemons, usually there's a thing in the config file that'll specify what user to run as05:23
Moduliz0reh?05:23
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Moduliz0rOk can anyone help me with Hybserv05:23
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qrtI have a file made by Revelation password manager and I need to open it in Windows, does anyone know how I can do that?05:23
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anandanbuI having problems with mounting the USB drive of FAT32 filesystem in Ubuntu 7.0405:24
ikoniaanandanbu what sort of problems05:24
zepoleni have a problem with ubuntu05:24
geniiaricz: Did you try to copy the backup over the faulty one yet? (fstab)05:24
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ariczgenii : UUID=2b56451b-4031-4d70-a6a2-38448e035f9c /               ext3    defaults,erro .. that's line 9 in fstab .. rs=remount-ro 0       1 .. that's line 1005:24
ikoniazepolen whats the problem05:24
zepolenguess05:24
Moduliz0rArgh05:24
ikoniazepolen just tell use hte problem if you have one05:24
zuzuzzzipso anybody know how to get my sound going through two channels again instead of05:24
ariczgenii : yep, it won't let me write05:24
zuzuzzzip2 into 105:24
Moduliz0rthe ircd-hybrid room is SILENT05:24
stuart_eh, how'd i chmod my 2nd HD to be accessible to normal users?05:24
zepoleni dont :/05:24
Moduliz0rNobody talks05:24
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ikoniazepolen please stop trolling before I report you05:24
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zepolenfine fine05:24
ariczgenii : anyway, line 10 and 9 is supposed to go together.. that's where the error is :) in fstab05:25
Moduliz0rWhat the hell is the point in IRC if nobody ever speaks!?05:25
anandanbuikonia: i having a 1gb USB drive of FAT32 and it doesn't show up when i plug it in my ubuntu 7.04 system05:25
ikoniaModuliz0r people are speaking - clam down05:25
Moduliz0rNot here05:25
Moduliz0rIm talking about another room05:25
Moduliz0rchannel*05:25
zepolenchannel!05:25
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zuzuzzziptalk about it there05:25
HEP85Moduliz0r: su user -c will work. I don't know what you want else?05:25
ikoniaModuliz0r then don't moan about it in here - this is ubuntu support05:25
geniiaricz: Yup. Trying to still remember how unmount/remount rw successfully when in ro mode :/05:25
zuzuzzzipthey'll read it eventualy, thats how u use irc :)05:25
Templarwhat program is best for converting divx avi etc to dvd for a dvd player that would possibly let you create menus etc05:25
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zepolenTemplar: buy the dvd05:25
ikoniaanandanbu can you see the plug in event in /var/log/syslog05:26
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Moduliz0ris there a torrent daemon?05:26
anandanbuikonia: i would look in to that now05:26
ikoniaanandanbu cool05:26
Templarno its from a camera05:26
dyrneTemplar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193754&highlight=avi+dvd+script looks interesting05:26
qrtTemplar: Most dvd players can play xvid, if yours can't a new one is very cheap05:26
HEP85Moduliz0r: and during boot it will not ask for a password because during boot you have root permissions05:26
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royelzepolen: your assuming he has an copyrighted movie, he may have a home movie or some sort05:26
Templarsurf clips05:26
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zepolenyour camera produces divx?05:26
Templarnot mine05:26
Moduliz0rHEP85: I said ages ago I am not bothered about that any more05:26
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Moduliz0rI deleted it05:26
Templarcheers05:26
anandanbuikonia: where do i find that is there any simple solution05:26
geniiaricz: OK: umount / ; mount -o rw /dev/hda1 /05:27
Falstiusif anyone syncs home directories between multiple machines, what do you use?05:27
zepolenwhich camera is that?05:27
HEP85Moduliz0r: whatever05:27
ikoniaanandanbu I gave you where to look05:27
ikoniaanandanbu: /var/log/syslog05:27
Templarthe software allows conversion from avi05:27
royelFalstius: rsync05:27
genii(so it not uses fstab)05:27
ikoniaFalstius  rysnc, or wget depending on whats required05:27
anandanbuikonia: but there is too much to look in that file05:27
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ariczgenii : mount: line 1 "/dev/hda1 already mounted or / busy" line 2 "mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /"05:27
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ikoniaanandanbu look at the boot - or tail -f if, and plug the drive in to see if you see the event05:27
LinuturkFalstius, look into rsync05:27
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OldPinkHi all05:28
ikoniaOldPink hello05:28
FalstiusLinuturk: royel: do you just keep both concurrent or have snapshots there too?05:28
ikoniaFalstius they sync - not keep snapshots05:28
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anandanbuikonia: im gettin a folder in /media/sdba/05:28
royelFalstius: ^^ what she said05:28
royelor he :)05:29
ikoniaanandanbu is there anything in that folder05:29
ikoniaroyel he ;)05:29
anandanbuikonia:no there is not05:29
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ikoniaanandanbu is there anything on your usb drive ?05:29
anandanbuikonia: there is no data in that but i need to copy to that05:30
ikoniaanandanbu there you go then05:30
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zepolenhelp i typed 'sudo rm -rf /' and my computer started playing porn05:30
ikoniaanandanbu /media/$drive is your usb drive05:30
geniiaricz: OK, try then just: mount -n -s -o rw /05:30
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Falstiusikonia: royel: okay.  I was hoping to set up something where one machine keeps differential snapshots and both machines are synced with the current versions.  Kind of like rdiff-backup.05:30
ikoniathats why its empty05:30
ikoniazepolen I'm reporting you05:30
anandanbuikonia: yeah /media/sdb1/05:30
stuart_i did a chmod 777 /mnt/hd2 but normal users still can't access the HD05:30
ariczgenii : same error-message05:30
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geniiBah. Who can recall how to remount / rw when in ro mode??05:30
ikoniastuart_ I told you not to do that05:30
Moduliz0rok is there a Linux Internet media daemon?05:30
royelikonia: he left05:30
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Moduliz0r network media server*05:31
ikoniaroyel: thanks05:31
anandanbuikonia: how do i access that drive05:31
royelikonia: hopefully nobody will be foolish enough to try an use that command05:31
ikoniaanandanbu the same way you do any other directory05:31
Falstiusgenii: mount -o rw /  doesn't work?05:31
ikoniaroyel05:31
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ikoniaoops05:31
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ikoniaroyel yes, hopefully05:31
Falstiuser, mount -o remount,rw /05:31
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anandanbuikonia: tell me how to do that05:31
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Moduliz0rAnybody? Is there a network media server daemon?05:32
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Ramyi want to minimize all windows <show desktop> , (i'm using Metacity) with keyboard shortcut ?05:32
Nergarwhere can i talk to a MOTU?05:32
ikoniaanandanbu exactly the same way as you write data to any directory on your hard disk05:32
stuart_ikonia, is there anything i should undo since i did?05:32
geniiFalstius: Apparently not05:32
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ikoniastuart_ nah, you may want to reboot so udev re-creates your /dev device files05:32
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jussi01Nergar: #ubuntu-motu05:32
catskul...I just performed the same update and had the same Xorg failure so I have to imagine others have had the same problem. Has no one heard of anyone else having this problem ?05:32
ariczFalstius : EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "erro" or missing value..05:32
anandanbuikonia: but iam not able to copy anythin to that05:32
stuart_k05:32
FalstiusModuliz0r: nfs is simple, or something like mythtv if you want it fancy05:32
Nergarjussi01, thnx05:32
ikoniaanandanbu what does it say ?05:32
anandanbuikonia: it says you are not the root05:33
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Falstiusaricz: what is the command like you used exactly?05:33
RainCTHi05:33
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victor__oi05:33
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Moduliz0rFalstius:  can mythtv be run textmode? I use ubuntu server05:33
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Some_PersonI'm trying to modify the "Screen Resolution" item in the System -> Preferences menu, yet when I modify it, the icon for it becomes less detailed and blurry05:33
ariczFalstius : the one you just typed in here.. mount -o remount,rw /05:33
Moduliz0ror is it a GUI program?05:33
anandanbuikonia: sorry for the mistake now iam able to copy files to that05:33
Templaris there no program like nero for ubuntu for creating your own dvds that lest u convert from most formats to dvd format create menus with multiple files etc?05:33
geniiFalstius: Remember too he is in safe mode05:33
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anandanbuikonia: thanks for your help05:33
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ariczgenii : not now, now I'm in normal mode05:33
novato_brdudes, i want to make pendrive boot with ubuntu's cd instalation, but when I make copy the files from CD doesn't works one copy of filesystem.squashfs, why ?05:33
novato_brwhy doesnt works ?05:33
victor__oi05:33
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Falstiusgenii: aricz: shouldn't matter.  Did you run fschk.ext3 ?05:34
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Jordan_UTemplar, There is always nero :)05:34
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Templarya true05:34
junohi i have a problem with Beryl Manager05:34
geniiaricz: Ah, OK Falstius Disregard safemode comment05:34
kbrooksping05:34
Templarbut open source05:34
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junoit freezes my system05:34
FalstiusModuliz0r: what's wrong with just nfs then?05:34
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RainCTany idea why SSH needs over 30 seconds until it asks me for the key password when I connect to a PC on the same network? is this normal?05:34
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Moduliz0rWhat can nfs do?05:34
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ariczFalstius : what do you mean? fschk.ext3.05:34
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Moduliz0r!nfs05:35
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.05:35
juno7.04 ubuntu05:35
catskuljuno, Beryl is still not quite stable05:35
catskul : (05:35
geniifsck rather05:35
FalstiusModuliz0r: it lets you export directories that other machines can mount (mostly linux although I think windows nfs clients are available).  they'll look like local directories to users of the other machines.05:35
royelRainCT: I get that at times, good time for me to find out why... <asks google>05:35
Some_PersonI'm trying to modify the "Screen Resolution" item in the System -> Preferences menu with Alacarte, yet when I modify it, the icon for it becomes less detailed and blurry05:35
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Moduliz0rNo thats not what I need...05:35
Falstiusaricz: it is how you check your filesystem for errors05:35
ariczFalstius : WARNING: bad format on line 10 of /etc/fstab05:36
Moduliz0rI need like, you know Orb for windows?05:36
junoi know but it worked just fine before...05:36
Moduliz0rlike a network media / streaming server05:36
roland_hello...05:36
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fjoesnecatskul: hehe compiz is worse if that is some comfort :D05:36
junoand do you know how can i "reset" it settings?05:36
Falstiusgenii: aricz: yeah, fsck.ext3 (I should check commands before telling people them)05:36
junoi think i messed them :)05:36
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roland_i have a problem with my Xorg 7.1 , when its running at 1024x768 the screen is too big and maximizing anything goes over th screen limiits05:36
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ariczFalstius : ok, I've not done that..05:37
catskuljuno, did you do things via menus or command line ?05:37
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Moduliz0rroland_: Adjust your monitor's settings05:37
junomenus05:37
geniiaricz: Doing some research on this, AFK05:37
Some_PersonCan anyone help me with my minor issue?05:37
Moduliz0rroland_: with the controls on your monitor05:37
junoit freezes on start05:37
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dyrneroland_: that is the actual buttons on your monitor05:37
Poul|Raider_i installed beryl 0.3 long ago and just booted up linux again - anyone who can help me remove beryl?05:37
roland_Moduliz0r i dont have what to adjust, actually i cant05:37
roland_no its a Xorg bug05:37
junoi think i forced not nvodoa but other option..05:37
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Falstiusaricz: make sure / is mounted RO and then run that (there are switches for a more thorough check, but start with the basic).  If there is a filesystem error it may prevent mounting RW.05:37
roland_all worked well until yesterday05:37
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Moduliz0rno idea then05:37
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zzazahi all05:38
ariczFalstius : the problem is my /etc/fstab..05:38
roland_im running at 1024x76805:38
roland_on a 15" TFT05:38
FalstiusModuliz0r: ahh, I don't know anything about that.05:38
junocatskul any ideas?05:38
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ariczFalstius : line 9 and 10 in /etc/fstab should be together.. :)05:38
ariczFalstius : I cut'n'paste into /etc/fstab .. and forgot to fix the cut lines05:38
Falstiusaricz: ahh.05:38
Bennyhi, can someone help me please. I have an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945. It does not work but it has before.05:39
geniiFalstius the fstab entry for / is messed, so it boots in RO. then when fsck tries it goes to fstab, causes error etc05:39
ariczFalstius : but I can't edit /etc/fstab.. because of / ro .. :)05:39
geniichicken-egg thing05:39
ariczhehe05:39
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Falstiusaricz: so don't use fstab, sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1 /05:39
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catskuljuno, i believe on 7.04 there is a system menu item which is something to the effect of "turn on/off desktop effects"05:39
ikoniagenii thats probably nothing to do with /etc/fstab unless you've edited it05:39
Bennyhi, can someone help me please. I have an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945. It does not work but it has before.05:39
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catskulId try there05:39
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Falstiusaricz: replacing /dev/sda1 with your proper partition ofcourse05:39
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geniiikonia We already know exact line in fstab that is the issue actually, it's over 2 lines after a botched copy/paste05:40
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ikoniagenii ahh ok, so you have edited it05:40
roland_sorry mates, i used monitor controls and indeed the screen is fixed now05:40
ariczFalstius : ok, that worked05:40
dyrneBenny: stopped working after an update?05:40
roland_thanks05:40
Bennyi think so05:40
ariczgenii: now I managed to edit /etc/fstab .. and fix line 9 and 1005:40
ariczgenii : :) so, I'll just reboot now05:40
geniiikonia Yes and now the backup can't be used since all is RO  ...bleh05:40
royelRainCT: try this: in /etc/ssh/ssh_config  ForwardX11 no05:41
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Bennydyrne:  it does not show up when i right click the network connection manager in the taskbar05:41
geniiaricz: You need to keep a livecd around my friend05:41
kbrookscan someone please go to http://fswh.ath.cx and tell me what they see05:41
roland_someone please tell me a good alternative to firefox that can support flash, i cant stand firefox any minute longer05:41
roland_seamonkey?05:41
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jussi01firefox supports flash....05:42
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Bennykbrooks: Free Shell/Web Hosting05:42
BennyWelcome to our website. We offer free shell/web hosting.05:42
BennyTo get free shell/web hosting:05:42
Benny    * E-mail anotequaltob@gmail.com with your username.05:42
Benny    * You will be setup within around a few hours, maybe even instantly. Be patient :)05:42
junocatskul the problem occures only when i open the "Beryl Manager"05:42
BennyCopyright  2007 Kyle Brooks.05:42
dyrneBenny: not sure. id try 1) sudo ifconfig -a and see if it shows up. if not: at grub menu selecting your old kernel and see if it works. if so i guess it might be a bug if that fixes it. i dont know the manager gui at all though05:42
roland_yes but firefox is not really usable on my computer05:42
kbrooksbecause if i go to http://fswh.ath,cx on this network05:42
geniidarn just missed him05:42
SlimeyPeteroland_: opera? There's also Konqueror, but flash is tricky on that.05:42
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jussi01!paste05:42
roland_it crashes too much05:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:42
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kbrooksit doesnt work05:42
gursikhWhere do I find information about translating ubuntu into another language? (not just translating gnome, but everything else too [if there is anything else] )05:42
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roland_SlimeyPete: Opera for Linux supports flash?05:42
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RoundyT1where can i learn how to package things?05:42
kbrooksbecause if i go to http://fswh.ath,cx on this network, it doesnt  work05:42
kbrooksbecause if i go to http://fswh.ath,cx on this network, it doesnt  work05:42
roland_can i get opera from debian repositories ?05:42
junono freezes with "Beryl Settings Manager05:42
kbrookser05:42
Moduliz0rSo does anyone know a bittorrent daemon? that can download torrents in the background and maybe have a web-based interface?05:42
PriceChildkbrooks, you have a comma in there ;)05:42
kbrooksbecause if i go to http://fswh.ath.cx on this network, it doesnt  work05:42
SlimeyPeteroland_: no but you can get a .deb from the opera site05:42
jussi01roland_: grab epiphany05:42
SlimeyPeteroland_: and I'm fairly sure it supports flash, yes05:43
kbrooksPriceChild, i know, typo05:43
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Bennydyrne: thansk05:43
roland_epiphany supports flash?05:43
Some_PersonI'm trying to modify the "Screen Resolution" item in the System -> Preferences menu with Alacarte, yet when I modify it, the icon for it becomes less detailed and blurry05:43
jussi01roland_: i beleve so...05:43
SlimeyPeteroland_: though you might have to manually install the plugin having downloaded it from macromedia05:43
catskuljuno, Im not sure... I was suggesting that you turn off desktop effects. If you want to keep them and try to debug you might try starting beryl-manager from the command line and see if there are any debug/error messages05:43
kbrooksit resolves fine05:43
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kbrooks... anyone/05:43
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kbrooks... anyone?05:43
royelkbrooks: it resolves, I seen the page05:43
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kbrooksroyel, i'm talki5ng about from here05:43
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HEP85Moduliz0r: torrentflux. runs on a webserver using PHP+SQL and python for the torrents05:44
Moduliz0rok05:44
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royelkbrooks: where is here?05:44
geniiHEP85: nice05:44
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kbrooksit resolves fine..... connects fine..... asks for the page fine...... but doesnt get the page.05:44
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Arsoi are uberpenguin05:44
kbrooksroyel, a home LAN05:44
RainCTroyel: ok, changed it (and also installed the package it says in bug #111553), thanks. can't check if it works now tought because once I logged in once it works fine05:45
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Arsoroyel back.05:45
geniiArso Shouldn't it be more like   Ich bin ein uberpenguin ?05:45
Moduliz0raww05:45
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Moduliz0ri dont want to install apache and then have to go through the config05:45
kbrooksroyel, ?05:45
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younghackerhello I am trying to use gem to install postgres and i am getting some errors05:45
Arsogenii i only know uber :P05:45
roland_where can i get cool debian t-shirt?05:45
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aantn!terminal05:45
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:45
kbrooksroyel, ?05:45
Some_PersonI'm trying to modify the "Screen Resolution" item in the System -> Preferences menu with Alacarte, yet when I modify it, the icon for it becomes less detailed and blurry05:45
royelkbrooks: couldnt say, perhaps something with your browser?05:45
younghackercan n-e-1 help me out05:45
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royelArso: wb05:45
royelRainCT: gl05:46
Moduliz0rive had enough of config files today05:46
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geniiArso :)05:46
jo3nix!file permissions05:46
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux05:46
kbrooksroyel: dunno05:46
bullgard4How to use the program Tracker via Nautilus? I do not understand the section 'Tracker And Nautilus Search' in /usr/share/doc/tracker-search-tool/README.gz.05:46
berent!iso05:46
Arso95.2% of ubuntu done, wee :D05:46
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.05:46
dyrneroland_: http://www.us.debian.org/05:46
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royelkbrooks: test from another machine produces same result?05:46
zuzuzzzipi have a problem with my sound, both left and right of my Analog Front only come through left channel05:46
roland_ that ships worldwide05:46
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royelkbrooks: perhaps try another browser05:46
berent!md505:46
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows05:46
Arsogoddamnit, i have to go buy a cd :S05:46
RoundyT1where can i learn how to package things?05:46
gerroIf you have a dual boot setup and windows dies out on you like usual how can you reinstall it without having to reinstall the working ubuntu partition?05:46
kbrooksroyel, another machine  on the network?05:46
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berent!burning05:46
royelkbrooks: what do you see, just a blank white page?05:47
geniikbrooks If you put some non-default theme on FireFox revert to standard and try again05:47
younghackerERROR:  While executing gem ... (Errno::EACCES)05:47
younghacker    Permission denied - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/postgres-0.7.1/ChangeLog05:47
maniccurious...can one use an iso on a usb flash drive to boot the machine?05:47
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto05:47
cdavisI am unable to get xine into borderless mode running feisty05:47
kbrooksgenii, nope05:47
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younghackerI get that error message from gem install postgres05:47
gerrolike some sort of grub repair from live cd?05:47
gursikhIs there anyways to change languages on the fly?05:47
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kbrooksroyel, "waiting for fswh.ath.cx... "05:47
geniikbrooks: Ok. Another user had this theme/no page load issue earlier05:47
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gerrogursikh: each user can have own language i think05:48
kbrooksgenii, not my theme05:48
bullgard4Using the 'Create_Launcher' dialog I created a panel applet. It works all right. What is the filename of this Launcher?05:48
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gursikhgerro, no way to change it without logging out/in ?05:48
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geniiaricz: wb05:48
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geniiaricz: I am soon going for lunch (10 minutes) just so you know05:48
Arsooo, can i install ubuntu from a flash drive?05:49
ariczgenii : hallo! hehe.. :) well, I cp /etc/backup/fstab to /etc/fstab .. it's all back to normal .. /dev/hdc exists .. so, happy ending after all :)05:49
s0nixhi, i want to know: is it possible to REDOWNLOAD (not reinstall) all INSTALLED packages with apt-get ?05:49
ikoniaArso: its quite tricky, and depends if your motherboard supports boot from usb05:49
kbrooksroyel: ok05:49
royelkbrooks: curious, how does this page look to you05:49
royelkbrooks: http://pengserv.servegame.com/05:49
geniiaricz: OK so back to CD/DVD LOL05:49
geniiwork, afk05:49
Arsoikonia any idea how i can find out?05:49
ariczgenii : hehe :P05:49
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ikoniaArso look in your bios options or the support manual05:49
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manicwe installed freebsd from a flash drive, but we had to install an o/s on the flash drive first, we couldn't just use an iso05:49
Arsoikonia okay :)05:49
gursikhArso, also, not every flash drive will work05:49
Arsosigh, nevermind05:50
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Arsoi 'll go to the bloody supermarket n get a cd :(05:50
IntuitiveNippleArso: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47630205:50
kbrooksroyel, works05:50
gursikhArso, the 3rd one I tried worked and installed ubuntu from that05:50
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denisVlue^^05:50
Arsogursikh nice05:50
kbrooksroyel, do i reboot server?05:50
Some_PersonCan I put nvidia-settings in the Preferences menu with the icon of Screen Resolution? I'm trying but I end up with a less-detailed blurry icon every time05:50
ariczgenii : ok, 'mount /dev/hdc /cdrom' did it.. it's working! :)05:50
royelkbrooks: then it maybe something with your DNS05:50
royelkbrooks: server seems ok05:50
Arsocan i broadcast radio to the internet ?05:51
ariczgenii : so thank you so much for your time&help .. man, almost 2 hours now? :)05:51
kbrooksroyel, it resolved OK05:51
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geniiback05:51
kbrooksroyel, not DNS05:51
ikoniaArso you can broadcast internet radio05:51
PriceChild!away > sunk|away05:51
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geniiaricz: Well, it should not be mounting there, but good to know is at least working somewhat05:51
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lasse_Arso:  what do you have in mind  ? (the short answer is yes)05:51
royelkbrooks: so what is the problem?05:51
stuart_weird. whenever i try to go online, i can't.05:51
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Arsolasse ikonia just a way to listen to the same music at the same time with my gf.05:52
kbrooksroyel, it times out here is the problem!05:52
stuart_i'm connected, but i can't access anything05:52
ariczgenii : where should I mount it?05:52
sunk|awayPriceChild: sorry05:52
ikoniaArso tons of options for that05:52
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junook so anyone with an idea about "Beryl Manager"?05:52
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Arsoikonia lasse just wondering if i need special hardware or a special connection05:52
dr_willis!beryl05:52
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects05:52
ikoniaArso a quicker connectionis better05:52
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geniiaricz: Should be mounting into the directory /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom105:52
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Ramy do u know any keybaord shortcut to minimize all windows=show desktop ?05:52
stuart_but once i type in 64.2.3.24 or whatever in my browser's address bar, my connections start05:52
geniiaricz: So you see it on your desktop05:52
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Arsoikonia any idea on the minimum connection required for 2 people to listen to that?05:52
kbrooksRamy, ctrl+alt+d05:52
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ikoniaArso depends on whats going on, any broad band connection should work "ok"4~05:53
Some_PersonWon't anyone help me?05:53
ikonia"ok"05:53
geniiWell, not desktop per se but in file browser05:53
ariczgenii : ahhh.. right05:53
ikoniaSome_Person whats the question05:53
lasse_Arso: ikonia - well if it's only one listener then it shouldn't be a problem even with a slow connection ...05:53
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Some_PersonCan I put nvidia-settings in the Preferences menu with the icon of Screen Resolution? I'm trying but I end up with a less-detailed blurry icon every time05:53
kbrooksRamy, ctrl+alt+d05:53
Arsoikonia umm, what do you mean "whats going on"05:53
gerrogursikh: what do you mean?05:53
kbrooksroyel, it times out here is the problem!05:53
Arsolasse two listeners.05:53
ikoniaArso if your doing anything else05:53
hatredxxserver input driver joystick is broken in ubuntu ... someone fix it! =P05:53
royelkbrooks: the server is on your local lan?05:53
stshello folks!05:53
Arsoikonia ahh ok05:53
ikoniaArso no only one as your local05:53
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dr_willisSome_Person,  give it a different icon..        a blury icon is not the end of the world...05:53
kbrooksroyel, YES!05:53
Arsoikonia oh, great.05:53
Some_Personi'm trying to give it the one screen resolution uses05:53
geniidr_willis: Hiyas05:53
Arsoikonia so any idea what app i should use fro that?05:53
Some_Personbut it looks different05:54
kbrooksroyel, it timmes out on its response though05:54
stuart_okay back to permissions05:54
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gursikhgerro, I mean I'm in english now, is there anyway to change my language to something non-english without logging out?05:54
stefg!icons05:54
ubotuWant to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)05:54
ikoniaArso search through synaptic for radio there are a few, but none springs to mind05:54
kbrooksroyel, not DNS, HTTP05:54
stuart_i'm logged into my user account now and i can't access my 2nd HD. how do i give myself permission to?05:54
gerrogursikh: i found this article http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Installing_windows_AFTER_Linux but its for red hat05:54
geniiwork, AFK05:54
dr_willissorry Some_Person  i tend to not worry about little details  like that.. i got other things to work on. :)05:54
Arsoikonia okay, thank you.05:54
royelkbrooks: what happens if you do http://x.x.x.x   where x.x.x.x is the IP of your local server ip05:54
ikoniaArso welcome05:54
dr_willisSome_Person,  its proberly enarging a small icon then. find the icon, load it in gimp , enlarge it. edit it. tweak it.. have fun.05:54
HEP85Arso: darkice + icecast-server05:54
dr_willisenlarging.05:55
ariczgenii : ok, but thanks for the help, deeply appreciated. Now I'll try getting the CD-rom working too.. hehe, have a nice day! Thanks again! :) *joy joy joy*05:55
Some_Personits an svg05:55
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younghackerI would like to be able to access the pgsql database from ruby,,, so far i have been using gem install postgres and i have been getting errors05:55
Some_Personit should be scalable05:55
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ArsoHEP85 thanks a lot :) , i'll paste that somwehere for now, till i have my ubuntu up n running05:55
kbrooksroyel, ?05:55
gerrogursikh think there is a language changing applet for panel05:55
gursikhgerro, that article is about installing windows?05:55
kbrooksroyel, LAN IP or WAN IP?05:55
royelkbrooks: test it with your server lan ip05:55
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HEP85Arso: np05:55
gerrogursikh: article is about reinstalling windows when you have linux on separate partition dual booting05:55
kbrooksroyel, that wworks05:55
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Arsoweee, my download is done :D05:56
gerrogursikh: or about having linux installed beforehand05:56
jose__hola05:56
Arsooh fuck, i need to install XP first :(05:56
Arsois it allowed to curse here ? :P05:56
gursikhgerro, right... my installation is fine....05:56
Some_Persondr_willis: but its an svg, shouldnt it be scalable05:56
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kbrooks!language | Arso05:56
ubotuArso: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:56
gerrogursikh: also if you can speak the language but not read it then try getting festival for your specific language it can put words to audio05:56
dr_willisSome_Person,  proberly should.. but i dont mess with svg icons when i make my icons.05:56
gerrogursikh: I thought you were replying to my question05:56
younghackercan someone help me use gem to install postgres05:56
Some_Persondr_willis: and if its the same icon screen resolution uses, shouldn't it look exactly the same?05:56
dr_willisSome_Person,  i just work on my own Porn Icon Collection. :)05:56
geniiWell, that was an ordeal but worth it in the end05:56
FalstiusArso: why would you want to install xp?05:56
ArsoFalstius i am a gamer :D05:57
dr_willisSome_Person,  aparently its not.. so theres somthing going on. Either its deciding to use a different icon, or its converting it badly.05:57
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ArsoFalstius i got so sick of vista and its bs. so i decided on a minimal xp installation for games, and ubuntu for everything else05:57
gursikhgerro, I can read it just fine, I just was trying to change my entire gui to that language on-the-fly. Be able to switch between 3 languages as I wish without logging out05:57
FalstiusArso: buy a gamecube, it is cheaper ;)05:57
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royelkbrooks: perhaps some firewall setting it blocking you then05:57
catskul...so if anyone comes in with a update+nvidia+broken Xorg problem from a recent update it turns out that edgy will not automatically update restricted drivers even if they were previously installed and their sources are included in sources.list05:57
ArsoFalstius haha, well, i already have relatively good hardware for gaming, spent money on it.05:57
ArsoFalstius and gaming on the pc is more fun05:57
HEP85Falstius: and play FPS with a controller? LOL05:57
kbrooksroyel, no way05:57
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Arsohaha, yea, seriously, consoles are gay05:58
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kbrooksroyel, other ppl see it from outside05:58
benyihola05:58
Arsopc gaming ftw05:58
younghackercan anyone help me with this gem install postgres it returns errors05:58
HEP85same thing with RTS by the way05:58
Some_Persondr_willis: http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1088/screenshotim9.png05:58
Arsosame thing with all games05:58
novato_brwhere can I find this file syslinux.exe?05:58
younghackerplease05:58
kbrooksroyel, couldnt be my ISP05:58
novato_brgoogle don't return good results05:59
farskiIf I'm using a virtual attribute, like homestring => "hometown, homestate", what's the best way to handle those parts not being set in the getter? Should I use an if, or rescue, or what?05:59
royelkbrooks: I didnt say it was your ISP, I said it could be a firewall setting05:59
kbrooksroyel, not it05:59
kbrooksroyel, no firewalls on my server05:59
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younghackerchecking for cygwin32_socket() in -lwsock32... *** extconf.rb failed ***05:59
younghackerCould not create Makefile due to some reason, probably lack of05:59
younghackernecessary libraries and/or headers.  Check the mkmf.log file for more05:59
younghackerdetails.  You may need configuration options.05:59
Ramythanks kbrooks05:59
Falstiusnovato_br: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/boot/syslinux/05:59
ArsoRamy where are you from?>05:59
Ramyfrom Jordan05:59
Arsocool , i am half Syrian06:00
ikoniayounghacker not really appropriate to support your development here06:00
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novato_brrhx, Falstius06:00
novato_bri will see it06:00
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younghackerdevelopment?06:00
RamyArso, how you are 0.5 Syrian ?06:00
ikoniayounghacker yes your devleoping stuff06:00
kbrooksyounghacker, #ruby-lang please06:00
ikoniaor trying to build stuff06:00
ArsoRamy my father is syrian, my mother is from elsewhere.06:00
younghackeroh06:00
younghackermy bad06:00
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Falstiusikonia: kind of depends on what he is trying to build.  If he'd asked a question instead of pase-flooding it would've been better.06:01
ikoniaFalstius even so - its ubuntu support not software building support, but yes, that would have been a better approach06:01
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kbrooksikonia, Falstius: ruby stuff. "mkmf" ".rb"06:02
ikoniakbrooks exactly06:02
Arsobtw guys06:03
ikoniaand cygwin is not ubuntu06:03
Arsois the torrent client in ubuntu a good replacment for utorrent?06:03
PirateLeChuckhi, where does apt-get download packages to by default/06:03
geniibah06:03
kbrooksArso, doubt it.06:03
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kbrooksPirateLeChuck, /var/cache/apt/archives/06:03
Arsokbrooks is it possible to run utorrent on ubuntu?06:03
dyrneArso: there is no real good replacement for utorrent. i run utorrent using wine in ubuntu. that or rtorrent which is cli only06:03
Arsokbrooks with wine or osmething?06:03
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kbrooksArso: with wine yes06:04
Arsodyrne whats cli please?06:04
Arsokbrooks and it runs perfectly?06:04
dyrneArso: command line06:04
kbrooks!cli | Arso06:04
ubotuArso: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal06:04
dr_williswine utorrent.exe    - works decently well i hear.06:04
Arsoahh , i see.06:04
Arsogreat. i'll work on that then.06:04
kbrooksArso: *I* havent tried it06:04
gordonjcpUbuntu has bittorrent support built in06:04
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gordonjcpit works, and works well06:04
Arsoand for codecs, will i have to work a lot on that? for running high def mkv's and stuff?06:04
dyrneArso: some utorrent like apps would be deluge maybe or ktorrent both of those are going to hog more resources but are better than AZ imo06:04
dr_willisi perfer ktorrent myself.06:05
Moduliz0rDoes uTorrent run well under Wine?06:05
Arsoi see06:05
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dr_willisModuliz0r,  seems to work  :)06:05
Moduliz0rcool06:05
dr_willisModuliz0r,  at least the older versions did.06:05
Falstiusikonia: sorry, I just ate my first homegrown tomato of the summer and lost all track of what you were talking about ;)06:05
Moduliz0ruTorrent has a good webUI06:05
gordonjcpFalstius: congrats06:05
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ikoniaFalstius yummy, no problem06:05
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dr_willisModuliz0r,  not sure thats in the latest release.. not sure if that feature works with wine either. ;)06:06
stefgModuliz0r: works, but wine puts some overhead on top, so it's no 'micro'06:06
Arso"and for codecs, will i have to work a lot on that? for running high def mkv's and stuff?"06:06
stuart_aw i can't chown my 2nd HD to my username, because it's write only06:06
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Moduliz0rIts not a super-low end machine, it wouldnt have a problem06:06
dr_willis!w32codecs06:06
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs06:06
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stuart_read only*. how'd i remove the readonly06:06
Arsothank you.06:06
dr_willisstuart_,  make a directyory on the drive. chown That directory.. let the user write in there.06:06
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Moduliz0rIs there any other good IRC servers I can get other than ircd-hybrid? (that I can get via apt-get)?06:06
dr_willisstuart_,  unless you are refering to ntfs drives...06:07
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stuart_ntfs drive it is06:07
Falstiushas anyone used ext3cow with ubuntu?  does it work, is it stable?06:07
frogzoostefg: wine has no overhead - it is an api, not an emulator06:07
dr_willisstuart_,  then you mount it properly.06:07
dr_willis!ntfs-3g06:07
stuart_i just figured out how to mount it, now i gotta access it. in root i can.. but as user, i can't06:07
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:07
dr_willis!find ntfs-config06:07
ubotuFound: ntfs-config06:07
dr_willis!info ntfs-config06:07
ubotuntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB06:07
dyrnestuart_: well it is easy to do read only for all users but write will require the above06:08
stefgfrogzoo: i didn't say it's an emulator, i just stated te wine-libs will add to the size of uTorrent in memory06:08
ttolsntfs-3g needs fuse06:08
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stuart_dyrne, how'd i do read only for all users first? need my mp3's06:08
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zuzuzzzipntfs-3g works fine here!06:08
dyrnestuart_: lazy way might be sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /media/whatever06:08
Moduliz0rhow could I play a WAV or MP3 through the PC speaker?06:08
dr_willisi tend to just install ntfs-config, runit, check the box's then.. hmm.. reboot. :) heh..06:08
dr_willisModuliz0r,  ick!06:09
dr_willisModuliz0r,  seen that done like 15+ yrs ago.... badly06:09
frogzoostefg: no more so tha the windows apis would06:09
Moduliz0r:P06:09
stuart_dyrne, do i need to do it every time i reboot06:09
Moduliz0rIt will sound awful I know06:09
Moduliz0rits not a song06:09
Moduliz0rMerely a sound effect06:09
dr_willisModuliz0r,  back when they had real speakers.. not these little coinsized buzzers06:09
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Moduliz0rto annoy whoever comes near it06:09
Moduliz0ryeah it is a real speaker06:09
aricz\o/06:09
dr_willisModuliz0r,  the 'beep' command can do different beeps.06:09
Moduliz0rits an older machine06:09
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PirateLeChuckkbrooks, thank yuo06:10
dr_willisi got my fileserver set where it beeps a little tune when it is done booting.06:10
dvs01are there any window managers that have beryl's scale effect, where all windows from all desktops are tiled onto the screen for easy selection? i need something like this without the use of opengl, so i can more easily use it via vnc/nx06:10
Moduliz0rHey thats an idea06:10
Moduliz0rbecause its a headless machine06:10
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berenthow do i know which device is my cd/dvd rom is06:10
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Moduliz0rand it takes a while to boot06:10
KilrooAnyone have experience with the Crossmeta file system drivers?06:10
stefgfrogzoo: you don't usually have a win-api running on a Linux-machine :-). Except you're using a non-native app ... so you add /overhead/ (stop splitting hairs now, ok?)06:10
Moduliz0rdr_willis how did you do it?06:10
berent!cdrecord06:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdrecord - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:10
zuzuzzzipdvs01: google on iCube06:10
dyrne!ntfs | stuart_ see this link06:10
ubotustuart_ see this link: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:10
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dvs01zuzuzzzip: thanks06:11
dyrnestuart_: you just need to edit /etc/fstab so that it automounts correcly at boot06:11
zaggynlwhat would cause mplayer's hotkeys to stop working after ~2 seconds of playing anything06:11
Moduliz0raah 10KHz beep! :(06:11
dr_willisModuliz0r,  installed the beep command, and put some commands in the rc.local06:11
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Kilroo!crossmeta06:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about crossmeta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:11
Moduliz0rk06:11
dr_willis!info beep06:11
ubotubeep: advanced pc-speaker beeper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.2-19 (feisty), package size 21 kB, installed size 108 kB06:11
dyrnestuart_: so a gksu gedit /etc/fstab and add line umask=000,defaults to the options column for it and save06:11
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Moduliz0rwhere is rc.local?06:12
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dr_willisModuliz0r,  in /etc/ with all the rest of the config type files. :)06:12
berentwhat does this mean ?? wodim: Drive does not support TAO recording.06:12
dyrnestuart_: again thats not really kosher, normally i think they like to use sep dir and file umask settings but its how i do it06:12
Moduliz0roke06:12
dr_williswhere else. :P06:12
scarniaHi to all, i'm trying to build an app to control the ati fan, Where could I contact with one of the developers of the ati open source driver?06:12
royelberent: Track At Once06:12
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raf256Hello06:13
berentroyel : waht should i use for that?06:13
kbrooksOK06:13
kbrooksI need help06:13
raf256did ubuntu fucked up phpmyadmin?06:13
frogzoostefg: many windows apps under wine run faster than they do natively on windows06:13
raf256in example by dening loging on root?06:13
dr_willisraf256,  id say no...06:13
raf256*on mysql root06:13
kbrooks!language | raf25606:13
uboturaf256: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:13
royelberent: I couldnt say..06:13
dr_willisbut the lack of a root login/password - may require you to do some things differnetly.06:13
raf256dr_willis: MYSQL root06:14
kbrooksI need help please.06:14
raf256not unix root06:14
kbrooksI need help please.06:14
kbrooksI need help please.06:14
raf256!ohmy | kbrooks06:14
ubotukbrooks: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:14
novato_brhow can I get the install syslinux on Pendrive?06:14
kbrooksraf256, i didnt swear06:14
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dr_willis:)06:14
dr_willis!ask06:14
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:14
raf256!repeat | kbrooks06:14
ubotukbrooks: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:14
kbrooksraf256, dont abuse the bot please06:14
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novato_bris it only type: "syslinux.exe -s <pendrive path>"?06:14
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osxdude|lap!patience06:15
angelicahi06:15
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:15
nadermanhey everybody, I've tried to run aptitude dist-upgrade, but all I got was "E: The package index files are corrupted. No Filename: field for package tzdata"06:15
nadermanIt appears to be related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/10517906:15
kbrookshttp://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do?06:15
nadermanBut there doesn't appear to be any workaround or other information online on how to solve it06:15
kbrooksto fix it.06:15
angelicai need to configure a wireless network between my pc and my notebook, i've no wi-fi routers, is this possible?06:15
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zuzuzzzipset both wifi devices to ad-hoc06:16
Arsoback.06:16
v3ctorangelica: yes06:16
berent!tao06:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tao - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:16
Arsohey guys, do u recommend any pc to pc only voip app?06:16
Arsothat works under windows too.,06:16
gerro!resize06:17
angelicav3ctor is there any tutorial?06:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:17
kbrookshttp://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do to fix it? I want to be able to see that site06:17
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zuzuzzzip!windows06:17
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents06:17
cyberphaz!vmware06:17
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers06:17
raf256!php06:17
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)06:17
OldPinkAnyone, please help me this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3045063#post3045063 - in grave need of help.06:17
cyberphaz!virtualizers06:18
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications06:18
kbrookshttp://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do to fix it? I want to be able to see that site06:18
berent-tao  -sao -dao   -raw -raw96p  -raw96r  -raw16  : out of these which one should i select for writing to disc. how do i know them06:18
v3ctorangelica: looking06:18
kbrookshttp://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do to fix it? I want to be able to see that site06:18
kbrookshttp://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do to fix it? I want to be able to see that site06:18
kbrookshttp://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do to fix it? I want to be able to see that site06:18
kbrookshttp://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do to fix it? I want to be able to see that site06:18
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royel!ops06:18
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok06:18
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cyberphaz!virtualbox06:18
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox06:18
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angelicav3ctor: tnx06:18
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gerroOldpink: oooh I have one of those except its not mobile its in an old desktop computer very interesting06:18
PriceChildgrrrrr06:18
Arsoguys06:18
angelicai wasn't able to find one06:18
Arsopc to pc voip please/06:18
OldPinkgerro, any help with the last post?06:18
osxdude|lapKbrooks: you are saying... oh...OWNED!06:18
raf256owned06:18
Hobbseethat guy is seriously a moron...06:18
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dr_willisSpooned!06:18
dr_willis:)06:18
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v3ctorangelica: http://www.atlink.it/~conti/articles/creating-an-ad-hoc-wireless-connection-with-linux/06:18
royelHobbsee: lol, you know him well!06:18
stuart_i read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions and edited my /etc/fstab, and mount -a06:19
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stuart_but i still can't access the HD06:19
radioman_206:19
radioman_hey06:19
Hobbseeroyel: i've seen him on the bantracker, but i'd not seen him in person for a while06:19
Moduliz0rAcorn RiscPC = better than modern day PCs :P06:19
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raf256bantracker? lol06:19
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royelHobbsee: Have you seen me ? ;)06:19
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Falstiushow can I create a file with an ext3 filesystem in it that is sparse (ie, the filesystem is 50GB but the file only uses as much space as the data contained)?06:19
angelicav3ctor: tnx :)06:20
Hobbseeroyel: i dont remember everyone, but it ahs a nice search06:20
royelHobbsee: anyhow, thank you06:20
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Hobbseeno problem06:20
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berent-tao  -sao -dao   -raw -raw96p  -raw96r  -raw16  : out of these which one should i select for writing to disc. how do i know them06:22
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noldonanyone know if there is a flashplayer 9 plugin for x86_x64 firefox06:22
duskdfs06:23
Falstiusberent: it depends, what are you writing to the disk?06:23
stefg!flash54 | noldon06:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flash54 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:23
stefg!flash64 | noldon06:23
ubotunoldon: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava06:23
berentFalstius : iso image burning06:23
Moduliz0rWould it be better to run a DHCP server on my router or my Ubuntu Server machine?06:23
stefgberent: if burning a premade iso (like an ubuntu download) you take dao (disk at once)06:24
Falstiusberent: dao should work.  Or just cdrecord file.iso /dev/cdrom   the defaults should be fine.  Or even easier, right click the iso and click "write to disk"06:24
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raf256!flash12806:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flash128 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:24
Falstiusberent: (I over simplified the format of cdrecord, but the point is the defaults are fine)06:24
berentFalstius : if that would work i wouldnt have asked this q06:25
stefg!botabuse | raf25606:25
uboturaf256: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...06:25
berentstefg : i am burning a puppy linux iso06:25
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berentstefg : but nothing seems to be burning at all.06:25
raf256are angry ops good?06:25
zuzuzzzipis there any way to watch youtube and such on amd64 (not gnash)06:25
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raf256zuzuzzzip: run 32bit firefox?06:26
zuzuzzzipmm06:26
PriceChildraf256, I suggest you don't find out06:26
zuzuzzziphave to uninstall old one first?06:26
raf256PriceChild: orly06:26
HEP85zuzuzzzip: you have to install firefox 32 bit version06:26
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raf256zuzuzzzip: nope06:26
stefg!k3b | berent06:26
ubotuberent: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto06:26
ZambeziI need my Ubuntu Dapper to act as a router and firewall for one computer. Iptables and Shorewall takes to long time to learn. Is there another option?06:26
zuzuzzzipand once i tried skype 32bit but i f'ed up my libs :D06:26
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zuzuzzzipi'll give it a shot then :)06:26
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Falstiusberent: are you using a cd-rw?06:27
videnAnyone know what the error exec: 1: setuidgid: not found means ?06:27
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berenti am using dvd/cd +/- rw06:27
zuzuzzzipbut seems nobody can help me out with my main problem, my 2 audio channels go through 106:27
stefgZambezi: http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/5/28/ could be helpful06:27
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berenti am using dvd/cd +/- rw drive and a cd-r06:28
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Falstiusberent: a DVD or CD?  A CD-RW needs to be erased before writing an ISO.  a DVD-RW doesn't.06:28
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berentFalstius : its cd-r .06:28
berentno write06:28
v3ctorviden: are you running seomthing from a mounted filesystem that has the nosuid option?06:28
Falstiusberent: I thought puppy was the one that went on a cd-rw and could add to itself.  What is the actual error?06:28
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berentFalstius : wodim: Drive does not support RAW recording.06:29
berentwodim: Illegal write mode for this drive.06:29
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Zambezistefg, Do you know if it require X-server?06:29
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stefgZambezi: read through it, there's several alternatives mentioned06:30
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Zambezistefg, Will do after some hours sleeping. Thanks.06:31
ariczhumm.. why do I get '???????' as directories when I've mounted dvd's ? :)06:31
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berentFalstius: there is nothing from puppy's side. but yeah i also read it adds to itself. but i am unable to write anything at all.06:31
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DeNewbiehi, when i play video files (mpeg,wmv) i only have the voice, and the screen is blue. is there any solution to that?06:32
berent!k3b06:32
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto06:32
gerroDeNewbie: get the codecs for it06:32
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gerroDeNewbie: what media player you using?06:32
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v3ctor!codecs06:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:33
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DeNewbiegerro: totem/mplayer what is the codec? i've already installed gstreamer-ffmpeg and w32codecs06:33
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gerroDeNewbie: install all the gstreamer except ones that end in -doc or -dbg, and as for mplayer I don't know how to get it fully functional06:34
=== v3ctor has never had a problem with vlc not playing anything
DeNewbiegerro : i have already done that,06:34
gerroDeNewbie: did you miss any?06:34
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DeNewbiev3ctor me too with mplayer, seems like the problem is from somewhere else06:34
gerroDeNewbie: grab em all not just one it wants06:34
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gerroDeNewbie: usually when my media player fails I fall back to vlc06:35
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DeNewbiegerro: no, i have installed even the docs lol06:35
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gerroDeNewbie: its 10.0 gstreamer you installed right? those older ones might mess it up06:35
DeNewbiegerro: there is no difference between vlc,totem or mplayer the screen is blue in all of them :(06:35
gerroDeNewbie: blue!? it should be blank06:36
gerroDeNewbie: some sort of custom theme you got going?06:36
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DeNewbiegerro: i installed 10.0 , no it's blue!06:36
stuart_hm, i just did mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb1, but after that, i fdisk -l and it still says my hdb1 = HPFS/NTFS file system06:36
stuart_did i format it correctly06:36
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DeNewbiegerro: no, my window manager is wmii2 a very basic one06:36
gerroDeNewbie: I think the default is a black blankness, perhaps the video is playing but its blue.. is there supposed to be a picture?06:36
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gerroDeNewbie: I have never tried that before do you have link to their website?06:37
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gerroDeNewbie: nvm I found it, looks nice. I usually use icewm for light weight ones06:38
DeNewbiegerro: wmii2? it's great it's the vim of window managers it's in the repository06:38
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gerroDeNewbie: vim!? eep! *hides underneath desk*06:38
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Moduliz0rWhat port does swat listen on?06:39
olieHi all. I use to use Ubuntu. Upon then, I would use dhcpcd as a dhcp client. Obviously, Ubuntu uses a dhcp client (since I am talking to you now! ;) ), but I dont think it is dhcpcd. What is it? Thx.06:39
DeNewbiei like blue color but not everywhere in my mpeg players :(06:39
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olieI use to use gentoo, sorry...06:39
novato_brwhy cant make disk pendrive ubuntu install?06:39
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gerroDeNewbie: I prefer green or teal06:39
v3ctorDeNewbie: do you have mplayer installed?06:39
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rokjhi06:39
gerroDeNewbie: does it work okay if you login to another window manager session?06:39
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DeNewbiegerro: i like vim, after a while it becomes one of the most valuable things you have :D06:40
v3ctorDeNewbie: agreed06:40
rokjis it possible to install gusty with some kind of update tool?06:40
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novato_brcosair is sux06:40
Moduliz0rrokj: If you want a Live install of Linux on your pen drive try DamnSmallLinux06:40
novato_brdon't buy cosair06:40
novato_brcosair pendrives are sux06:40
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Moduliz0rwhy06:40
DeNewbieolie: it's dhcp i think, you should install the package06:40
novato_brwhy ???06:40
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novato_brbecause it is06:41
rokjModuliz0r: i already have feisty fawn installed06:41
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rokjModuliz0r: just want to "upgrade"06:41
DeNewbiev3ctor: vlc, mplayer , totem all of them are installed06:41
stuart_what's ubuntu's bset mp3 player06:41
Moduliz0rrokj: on the pendrive? ok sorry06:41
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stuart_XMMS? cos apt-get = 80 megs on taht06:41
v3ctorDeNewbie: try `mplayer -vo x11 <full path to video file>06:41
fartocHow do I use beryl instead of compiz? Do I remove compiz apps and install beryl ones? What else?06:41
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Moduliz0rWhat port does the swat program listen on by default?06:41
TixerI'm running FF, and I suddenly lost my GUI over VNC06:41
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Tixerhow do I restore it?06:41
rokjModuliz0r: try netstat -luntp06:41
Moduliz0rk06:42
stefg!xgl | fartoc06:42
ubotufartoc: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:42
rapflapHow do i find out what kinda harddrive i got, and is it possible to configure it wrong so its set to scsi even if its not ?06:42
gerroTixer: restart it?..06:42
TixerI've tried restarting it06:42
TixerI only have SSH access right now06:42
DeNewbiev3ctor, hmmm it works now !! thanks, but what caused this?06:42
gerrorapflap: check /etc/fstab and man hdparm06:42
stefg!uuid | rapflap06:42
uboturapflap: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)06:42
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fartocstefg, thank you06:42
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herumori have a question06:43
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v3ctoryou will need to change the default video output setting for your player06:43
v3ctornot sure what causes it06:43
herumorhow to run bitchx-gtk ?06:43
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Tixerhow can I find out what's wrong with the GUI?\06:43
DeNewbiev3ctor: how can i do that?06:43
olieDeNewbie: But there must be a dhcp client running already, since I got an IP adress from the dhcp server!06:43
TixerI don't know if X11 is dead, or if VNC is dead, or w/e06:43
rokjrapflap: it is; if if "finds" module more apropriate than "usual" drive; it can then somehow emulate it with scsi06:43
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herumorplease06:44
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v3ctorin Totem you can change the output in ~/.gnome2/totem_config06:44
stuart_how do i check what version of ubuntu i'm using06:44
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herumortell me how to run nitchX-gtk06:44
stefg!ersion06:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ersion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:44
stefg!version06:44
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell06:44
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herumortell me how to run BitchX-gtk *06:44
rapflap./dev/sda1: UUID="fea2d19f-54a9-487d-b5aa-61e11f8d7511" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"  <-- this is the output, but i dont think i got scsi in this laptop, so im confused06:44
stuart_thanks06:44
rokjrapflap: dmesg | grep scsi06:45
berentatlast I burnt it.06:45
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stuart_holy crap i'm using warty06:45
berentthe catch was to burn it as root!!!!!!06:45
herumor-__-"06:45
olieHi All. What is the default dhcp client on Ubuntu? Thx.06:45
rokjrapflap: it probably cannot find "apropriate" driver so it is using "emulation"06:45
stefgrapflap: please read the link... libata! everything (well, nearly) is handeled through the scsi subsystem now06:45
rapflaprojk: is this a problem06:45
DeNewbieolie: that's set when ubuntu is booting, if you want to get the ip agaiin you need to use dhcp06:46
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berentwell i do like the trumpet sound of k3b after writing :-)06:46
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DeNewbiedhclient i mean06:46
DeNewbie:)06:46
rokjrapflap: not really, but is not soo quick as it could be06:46
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stuart_how can i upgrade my warty to fiesty or gutsy06:47
stefgstuart_: reinstall06:47
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berentthnks all for helping06:47
v3ctorDeNewbie: also looks like there is a gstreamer-properties tool you can use06:47
stefgstuart_: no way06:47
berentbrb after reboot06:47
siviki reinstalled grub after a windows reinstall, but now grub loads, but there isn't any options for loading an os, it just goes to grub>06:48
stuart_so i have to d/l the latest distro? or can i somehow net-inst with warty06:48
olieDeNewbie: No it is not set up when ubuntu is booting. It sets up after I choose the essid name only. It means a dhcp client is running in the background. Plus I can change essid and get a new Ip any time!06:48
ViljasenMattiIf you have your /home dir on separate partition, I _think_ it's possible to just reinstall the root and mount the /home again06:48
stuart_warty CD, even.06:48
stephanquit06:48
stefgsivik, running from Live CD ow?06:48
sivikstefg: yes06:48
olieDeNewbie: if I understand well... :)06:48
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Moduliz0ris /etc/inetd.conf the right file to config the network "super daemon"?06:48
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Some_PersonWhere can I get Totem visualizations?06:48
stefgsivik: open a term and enter: sudo grub06:48
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rokjrapflap: if you are not using laptop for some 3D or some stuff that uses disk more than just for browsing/mail/chat .. its not a problem06:49
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sivikstefg: there06:49
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sivikstefg: grub>06:49
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stefgsivik: type 'find /boot/grub/stage106:49
KilrooAnyone have experience with the Crossmeta file system drivers?06:49
sivikok06:49
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ublenderOT: Hey, does anyone have any definitive proof/opinion on which is better, aac or mp3?06:49
stefgsivik: what turns up?06:49
sivikhd0,206:50
Moduliz0rdoes ubuntu use xinetd or inetd.conf?06:50
ublenderOr, is there an off topic channel?06:50
ublenderlol06:50
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stefgsivik: so enter 'root (hd0,2)'06:50
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stefgsivik: then 'setup (hd0)'06:50
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ariczwhat's a good tool in linux for ripping audio-cd's and converting them to FLAC ?06:50
sivikstefg: it says done06:50
stefgsivik type quit, and try to reboot06:51
v3ctoraricz: konqueror06:51
sivikthanks06:51
ariczv3ctor : thank you :)06:51
DeNewbiev3ctor: thanks i'll look for that[D06:51
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Some_PersonWhere can I get Totem visualizations?06:51
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jay_anyone know what banshee package is needed for it to transcode ogg to mp3 for ipod?06:51
DeNewbieolie: well, i always use dhclient to renew my ip06:51
Falstiusaricz: soundjuicer is installed by default06:51
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SkryptOther than fdisk and GNOME Partition Editor, what can I use to edit partitions in Linux?06:52
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IntuitiveNippleparted06:52
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SkryptHow do I access that?06:52
qrtSkrypt: cfdisk06:52
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qrtSkrypt: It's cli just like fdisk but ncurses (i think that was the name) so it's easy to use06:53
XtypeWriter74hi , i have small laptop and would like to flip my view of desktop 90 degrees, and also have mouse adjusted to that, is it possible and how06:53
erUSULSkrypt: cfdisk parted qparted gparted06:53
Skryptcfdisk won't run, apparently.06:53
XtypeWriter74so i  would be lookin at it like a book06:53
kdittya friend of mine recently installed feisty, he made 2gig available for hd space and 158gb for swap. is there a way to fix this without a reinstall or is reinstall the best option?06:54
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tck-afkanyone else find that the skype 2.x does not work with ubuntu and previously did ?06:55
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stefgkditty: you can try to correct this with gPsrted running from the Live CD... but a reinstall will be quicker06:55
jay_anyone know what banshee package is needed for it to transcode ogg to mp3 for ipod?06:55
Some_PersonWhere can I get Totem visualizations?06:55
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ThanatosDriveHey guys06:55
qrtjay_: Does it have to be banshee?06:55
stuart_what do i need to add into my sources.list then if i'm using warty06:55
ThanatosDriveHow can I get Ubuntu to recognize my printer?06:55
kdittythanks stefg06:55
jay_yes i like banshee better :)06:55
qrtjay_: You can use a program called soundconvert or soundconverter for that but I don't know anything about banshee06:55
CheesyMonkey!cups | ThanatosDrive06:56
ubotuThanatosDrive: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows06:56
stuart_can i just put later distros sources.list?06:56
qrtjay_: And I'm sure you already know that it's a bad idea to transcode right? :)06:56
jay_ipod dont support ogg ;)06:56
stefgstuart_: forget that... reinstall feisty06:56
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ViljasenMattikditty, stefg, when I booted with Ubuntu Live CD, it used swap, so it's not possible to do that with Ubu live-cd, use gparted live-cd06:56
stuart_stefg, don't happen to have an empty cd-rom :(06:56
stuart_cd.. i mean06:57
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ariczv3ctor : konqueror, a file manager?06:57
qrtjay_: Yeah I know but my experience says it's more convenient to just download the albums in mp3 instead06:57
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qrtEasier, faster, better quality06:57
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W9ZEB-Larswhere did Feisty hide the Gnome Configuration Tool?06:57
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stefgViljasenMatti: oh, yes, that's a catch. you'll have to diable swap with sudo swapoff -a06:57
ariczv3ctor : where's the audio-cd ripper and converter to FLAC ? :)06:57
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ViljasenMattistefg, thanks for the tip :)06:57
lozzyW9ZEB-Lars: gconf-editor ?06:57
v3ctoraricz: it's part of the filemanager06:57
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ThanatosDriveCheesyMonkey: The driver is only available for SuSE, Red Hat, and Mandrake Linux. I see no driver support for Ubuntu/Debian. (for my printer)06:58
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W9ZEB-Larslozzy: I guess?  I used to be under Apps-->System Tools    but I don't see anything useful there06:58
Tixeroh shit.06:58
sminsi have breezy installed, and the feisty CD in my cdrom drive, how can I manually start the feisty installation script from the fiesty cd in the cdrom drive?06:58
TixerI've lost my HDD's06:58
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lozzyW9ZEB-Lars: if you right click the menu, you can edit it to include it.06:58
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TixerWhy has Ubuntu suddenly stopped detecting one of my HDDs?06:58
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lozzyI guess it scared some people off :)06:58
W9ZEB-Larslozzy: alrighty.  or, launching it from the terminal worked.  Thanks.06:58
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ariczhow do I uninstall konqueror again?06:59
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stefgstuart_: whatever effort you put in it now, will be useless. get a CD, that's the only realistic option you have06:59
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qrtTixer, does it show when you do fdisk -l (i think that was the command, no?)06:59
gourdinanyone trying to close the flash update bug ?06:59
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berentif at all an iso image has to be burnt into a cd , what should appear in cd . iso-image or all the files inside it like vmlinuz initr etc06:59
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CheesyMonkeyThanatosDrive, You can convert rpm to deb using Alien :) Althought it could screw up07:00
Falstiusaricz: you could also just use soundjuicer which is already installed and won't pull in 50mb of dependencies.07:00
tck-afkgodddd tribe 3 takes ages to install07:00
stuart_stefg, kay then i'm downloading 7.04 now.. but what do i use to burn it to CD later07:00
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ThanatosDriveCheesyMonkey: Which is rpm?07:00
SkryptTribes 3?!07:00
berentmy puppylinux cd is not booting at all :-((07:00
SkryptTribes : Vengeance?07:00
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Falstiusberent: did you burn the .iso as a file instead of an image?07:00
stefg!install | stuart_ , see one of the trick methods to install07:00
ubotustuart_ , see one of the trick methods to install: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate07:00
ariczFalstius : hehe yeah, that was what I thought about.. thought konqueror was some huge insane cd-audio ripping util.. but it's a damn file util.. :)07:01
XtypeWriter74the command is xrandr07:01
Tixerqrt: yeah, it shows07:01
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berentFalstius : I dont know but now i have 8 files in cd-rom - vmlinuz initrd.gz isolinux.bin etc etc07:01
tck-afkSkrypt, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-3/07:01
CheesyMonkeyThanatosDrive, Id take red hat :)07:02
Falstiusberent: that looks about right07:02
adrianhow it's possible that i can't be able to install lirc on Feisty but the system type a 1 when I press the appropiate key in the remote???07:02
Tixerwhy is my drive not mounting?07:02
ThanatosDriveCheesyMonkey: Can I find Alien in Synaptic, or Add/Remove?07:02
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berentFalstius : but it doesn't boot from cd.07:02
Falstiusaricz: just go to soundjuicer preferences and select "CD Quality, Lossless" for output format.07:02
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qrtThanatosDrive: Try and see?07:02
CheesyMonkeyThanatosDrive, Synaptic....im not promising that it will work, have you checked the forums?07:02
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stefgberent: Bios set up right?07:02
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Skrypttck-afk: I thought you meant Tribes 3 the video game (ie. Tribes: Vengeance)07:02
CheesyMonkeyThanatosDrive, Id search the forums with your printer make/model07:03
ThanatosDriveqrt: Good point.07:03
berentstefg : yes07:03
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ThanatosDriveCheesyMonkey: Yeah I'm on it. Thanks for your help!07:03
goofyim trying to install kismet and i keep gettin the error:  FATAL: No 'listen' config line defined for the Kismet UI server Kismet exiting.07:03
ariczFalstius : yup, thanks for the tip:)07:03
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CheesyMonkeyThanatosDrive, If not you can try alien :)07:03
berentstefg : it is looking there first but not acting . is there anything from root verify that is happening as i burnt as root07:03
royelberent: Have you tried to see if any other "bootable" disc works?07:03
TixerI have a drive that isn;t mounting. How do I get it to mount?07:04
quaalDisk /dev/sdg: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes07:04
quaal255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24792 cylinders07:04
quaalUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes07:04
quaalDisk /dev/sdg doesn't contain a valid partition table07:04
quaalwhy does this happen all of a sudden07:04
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quaaljust 2 seconds ago it was working fine07:04
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berenti dont have any other right now07:04
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stefgberent: no idea. sometimes cdrw are troublesome as bootable  on older drives, or the image was broken already... i don't know07:04
Falstiusberent: you can compare the md5sums of the .iso and disk.  If they're the same, then it is probably your bios or a bad .iso.07:04
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Some_Personcan i make the email button on my keyboard launch thunderbird instead of evolution?07:05
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CheesyMonkeyThanatosDrive, Ive just read the alien homepage, and id try every other way before using it07:05
sminswhich is the script in the fiesty installation CD that starts the fiesty installation?07:05
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quaalSome_Person, i would hope so07:05
berent!md507:05
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows07:05
stefg!keytouch | Some_Person07:05
ubotuSome_Person: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net07:05
Some_Personthank you07:06
royelTixer: sudo mount -t <type> /dev/xxx# /mount/location07:06
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Tixerwhat do you mean type07:06
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royelTixer: what filesystem is on the drive you are trying to mount07:06
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TixerNTFS07:07
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royelTixer: then replece <type> with ntfs07:07
stuart_stefg, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux , do i still haev to burn what I'm downloading to a CD or can i just copy the distro straight away into the dir and install07:07
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Tixermount: mount point /media/disk does not exist07:08
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royelTixer: sudo mkdir /media/disk07:08
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MajorPayneTixer: You need to mount it to a directory that already exists.07:08
adrianhow it's possible that i can't be able to install lirc on Feisty but the system type a 1 when I press the appropiate key in the remote???07:08
stefgstuart_: you still need a downloaded .iso. you just get around needing to burn it to a CD07:08
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TixerOmgwtfhax:/media$ cd disk07:09
Tixer-bash: cd: disk: Permission denied07:09
Some_Personstefg: that "keyboard shortcuts" doesnt help me07:09
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Some_Personstefg: i want to change what it launches, not what you hit to launch it07:09
royelMajorPayne: I think you mean, the mount point must exists..07:09
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Tixerwhat's full access for all users in chmod?07:09
MajorPayneroyel: Yes.  The mount point is a directory.07:09
stuart_stefg, that's what i was wondering. since i don't have an empty CD right now, can i just use the downloaded fresh .iso?07:10
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stuart_as in I dno't need to burn the iso, then re-copy to linux and install?07:10
ViljasenMattiadrian, I think the receiver is already supported by kernel... IMO07:10
royelTixer: 77707:10
stefgstuart_: exyctly what i'm trying to tell you07:10
Tixerkthx07:10
ariczwhat does this mean from soundjuice: [17181240.708000]  hdc: write_intr: wrong transfer direction!07:10
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ariczsoundjuicer..07:10
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adrianbut the applications tan implements lirc would detect it?07:11
TixerOmgwtfhax:/media$ sudo chmod 777 /media/disk07:11
Tixerchmod: changing permissions of `/media/disk': Read-only file system07:11
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ddelonyTixer: what kind of disc?07:11
ViljasenMattiI just got interested... Anyone else using GPRS for internet connection? ;)07:11
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MajorPayneTixer: By default ntfs mousts is read only.07:11
phlegmHey all. Anybody know how to permanently change the size of the "save as" dialogue box. It's way too small and I always have to manually make it bigger.07:11
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stefg!ntfs-3g | Tixer07:11
ubotuTixer: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions07:11
TixerI have that07:12
bigmichihey =) how i can change the theme of compiz fusion?07:12
Tixerthe drive has worked fine for the past 3 months07:12
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royelTixer: what changed?07:12
stefgTixer: bout you mounted with -t ntfs , not -t ntfs-3g07:12
ThanatosDriveHow does one install a tar.gz? (In this case, Foomatic)07:12
facecoosOK I messed up bigtime07:12
Tixerhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3045966#post304596607:12
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CheesyMonkeybigmichi, Right click the icon and choose emerald?07:12
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facecoosI managed to put 'rm *' as root in /etc/ is there anyway to get stuff back?07:12
ddelonyThanatosDrive "tar -xvf foo.tar"07:12
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geniifacecoos No07:13
ariczfacecoos, hohohohohohOHOHOHOHO07:13
PiciThanatosDrive: I think foomatic is in the repos, you shouldnt have to install from sorce.07:13
ddelonyActually "tar -xvzf foo.tar"07:13
facecoosFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK07:13
Pici!ohmy | facecoos07:13
ubotufacecoos: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:13
CheesyMonkeyThanatosDrive, Pici I thought it was installed by default :)07:13
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royelfacecoos: nope, gone07:13
ddelonyFile deletion in the command line is forever. Sorry.07:13
PriceChildfacecoos, I suggest reinstall07:14
ViljasenMattifacecoos, I have done the same once... I feel pity...07:14
facecoosaw manb07:14
ThanatosDriveCheesyMonkey: Nope. I see it in the Add/Remove and it's unchecked. Installing now.07:14
ariczso there's nothing like in dos.. uh, undelete07:14
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CheesyMonkeyThanatosDrive, Okay =D07:14
Cyber_Stalkerhmm07:14
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Cyber_Stalkerespecially as root07:14
facecooswell there was nothing I cant replace, it will just take time07:14
geniifacecoos: "with great power comes great responsibility"07:14
stefg!backup | facecoos07:14
ddelonyNo. *nix filesystems don't allow for undeletion07:14
ubotufacecoos: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning07:14
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ViljasenMattigenii, that's so true07:14
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ariczwhy is that? :)07:14
facecoosI made a pipe that went to hell07:14
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ddelonyfacecoos: Think before you type.07:15
facecooswas not supposed to be like that07:15
w8tahhi folks -- i know there is a replacement for NDISWRAPPER for broadcom wireless cards (4306) but i cant remember it and im not finding it in google / forums - -can someone point me in the right directoin07:15
stefgfacecoos: deleting /etc is like killing the rgistry in win... happy reinstall07:15
videnEveryone, i need some help since it appears daemontools has killed my ubuntu.  I am right now on the live cd because the machine powers off during the boot process.  I have my original hdd mounted as /media/disk-1 and i need to remove the app and its starter in the init.d file ... can i get some help ?07:15
Cyber_Stalkeris there any way of boosting wireless strength? cause mine is sitting on about 1% or 2% average07:15
stuart_when i mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb1, is it supposed to be instant, because fdisk -l isn't showing ext307:15
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Falstiusfacecoos: atleast it was /etc instead of /home07:15
Tixer@Omgwtfhax:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/disk07:16
Tixerfusermount: mount failed: Device or resource busy07:16
TixerFUSE mount point creation failed07:16
TixerUnmounting /dev/sdb1 ()07:16
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ViljasenMattiw8tah, bcm43xx?07:16
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royelTixer: sudo umount /media/disk   first07:16
Falstiusstuart_: what fdisk thinks the filesystem is and the real filesystem are unrelated.07:16
w8tahViljasenMatti: yes07:16
Sivikstepf: that didn't work07:16
ViljasenMattiw8tah, BTW do you use WPA/1/2/PSK?07:16
w8tahViljasenMatti: it was like bcm cutter or something -- i just cant find the docs07:16
w8tahViljasenMatti: no07:16
w8tah(not that i know of)07:17
stefgSivik: what happened07:17
ViljasenMattiw8tah, sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter07:17
stefg!pm Sivik07:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pm sivik - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:17
stefg!pm | Sivik07:17
ubotuSivik: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.07:17
ViljasenMattiw8tah, I'm having problems with that, just thought to try :)07:17
w8tahok07:17
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Sivikdid u see my pm stefg07:17
stefgSivik: no,07:18
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videncan someone help me please ?07:18
Sivikthats weird, it may be the program i'm running07:18
swmiller6What is the best photo printing software for linux?07:18
Sivikxchat doesn't want to work so i'm having to use gaim07:18
stefgSivik: so what happened07:18
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Sivikgrub>07:18
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HEP85w00t! I finally managed to install flash into my 64 bit firefox07:18
ddelonyswmiller6: I'd take your photos to a professional photo printer.07:19
SivikHEP85: oh really?07:19
w8tahViljasenMatti: im getting an error from the install process07:19
leiredeola07:19
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ViljasenMattiw8tah, what kind of?07:19
stefgSivik: hmm... grub still doesn't see his menu.lst07:19
HEP85Sivik: with nspluginwrapper07:19
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ddelonyConsumer printers are nowhere near as good as professionals.07:19
SivikHEP85: nice07:19
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w8tahSorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by bcm43xx-fwcutter.07:19
w8tahThis file has an unknown MD5sum 0c5ffe204a083fcdf623aa47acfefcbd.07:19
azslandeHello, I am having a problem getting my sound to work. It will come out of my onboard card, but not my other soundcard, can anyone help?07:19
leiredehello how are you hep85??07:19
sixfourunder screen resolution preferences, it only lists 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.  Any idea why it won't pick up 1280x768, I tried adding it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarting but it still is not listed.07:19
Sivikstefg: does it have to do with the fact that i have my boot on a seperate partition?07:19
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HEP85leirede: hi. I'm fine. thx07:19
swmiller6ddelony: thats not going to work07:20
stuart_okay a noob question. how'd i check how much hd space is still available07:20
ViljasenMattiw8tah, what command is giving you that error? sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf?07:20
Sivikstuart_: df -l07:20
stuart_thanks07:20
Sivikyucky for ndiswrapper07:20
SivikViljasenMatti: have u tried the bcm43xx firmware07:20
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Tixeryay! my drive works now07:20
w8tahno the apt-get install  bcm fwcutter07:20
Tixersuccess!07:20
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Falstiusstuart_: df -h is easier to read07:20
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w8tahsudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter07:20
w8tahspecifically07:20
Sivikstefg: so what am i doing wrong?07:20
stefgSivik: no, actually the find command should turn up the right one. so your boot is hd0,2 or /dev/sda3 , right?07:21
dr_willisstuart_,  try            df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs07:21
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Sivikyes07:21
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stuart_k found07:21
ViljasenMattiSivik, I have tried various files for firmware extracting, now I'm testing different driver versions with ndiswrapper to get WPA-AUTO-PSK work07:21
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w8tahViljasenMatti: i think whats hapepning is that the installer is going to fetch the firmware and its an old link in the deb package -- and its failing07:21
anakin_How do you install FiSH on ubuntu?07:21
sixfourunder screen resolution preferences, it only lists 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.  Any idea why it won't pick up 1280x768, I tried adding it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarting but it still is not listed.07:21
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leiredehello paul07:21
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Otacon22wich is the name of the daemon of xscreensaver?07:22
leiredehow are you?07:22
ViljasenMattiOK, that's cruel...07:22
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swmiller6stuart_: Menu>Accessiors>Disk analyzer07:22
stefgSivik: wait... we should have looked for /grub/stage1 , not /boot/grub/stage107:22
ThanatosDriveHow do I open a .ppd file with Foomatic?07:22
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stefgSivik: so once again: terminal, sudo grub07:22
`paulhow do you install those compile headers? i mean whats the package name?07:22
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ViljasenMattiw8tah, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerFerrari3400 and download the driver from there, that forks07:22
ViljasenMattiworks07:22
JRsup1can anyone tell me what logs I should check if my system keeps locking up. (Or am I screwed because it probably locks before it can write the logs)07:22
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Sivikstefg: what do i need to type to initate the command07:23
Siviki at grub>07:23
w8tahVOK07:23
Pici`paul: linux-headers-`uname -r`07:23
FFForevercan linux get spyware (or a form of it...), and if it can what could it get access 2?, my key log?07:23
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stefgSivik: if you are at the grub prompt type find /grub/stage107:23
osmosisis there any way to open windows .HLP files on linux ?07:23
swmiller6What programs do you use to print your photos?07:23
Sivikok07:23
car_watthi all I need program for DNS report,07:23
Sivikstefg: same place, now what07:24
osxdude|lap.ppd: PostScript Printer definition file specification (Adobe Acrobat v4)07:24
CheesyMonkeyFFForever, Ummmm I would like to believe there isnt any for linux07:24
POVaddctJRsup1: if there is a kernel panic, you won't see it when working in X window. does the freeze also happen when you are on the text console?07:24
car_wattI used dnsstuff but we need to pay for use that07:24
Sivikcar_watt: u can use dnsstuff up to 3 times a day for a given domain07:24
ViljasenMattiFFForever, If you ever manage to get one, you seriously have to install it first, and that isn't going to happen accidentally07:24
ThanatosDriveFFForever: It probably exists. Try to surf smart.07:24
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`paulthanks @Pici07:24
stefgSivik: root (hd0,2) , then setup (hd0)07:24
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Sivikcar_watt: you could use whois or dig or07:24
sixfourunder screen resolution preferences, it only lists 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.  Any idea why it won't pick up 1280x768, I tried adding it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarting but it still is not listed.07:24
JRsup1POVaddct: it's a whole system lockup.  X freezes, and my SSH connections stop07:25
FFForeverThanatosDrive, there is no such thing as surf smart with me :D07:25
bullgard4Using the 'Create_Launcher' dialog I created a panel applet. It works all right. What is the filename of this Launcher?07:25
PiciSivik, car_watt: http://www.iptools.com/ is free and has almost the same tools as dnstuff07:25
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feveldoes evolution have a rss reader??07:25
feveldoes evolution have a rss reader???07:25
POVaddctJRsup1: i mean, if it is a kernel panic, you only see it when the machine is on the text console07:25
car_wattthx a lot Pici07:25
car_watt:D07:25
feveloops...posted twice...sorry07:25
HEP85sixfour: did you try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"? it configures xorg.conf automatically. there is also a page to select resolutions07:25
Sivikso whats different this time than the last stefg07:25
jhonatanqual e o seu mo,e07:26
POVaddctJRsup1: does it lock up randomly, or when you are doing a specific thing?07:26
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stuart_would xubuntu be better for me since i only have a p667 and 200 ram07:26
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JRsup1POVaddct: not sure about local (ctrl+F1) console...but pretty sure it locks too.  I can't do ctrl+F1 once locked.  NOTHING works, no mouse, kbd, numlock light, etc07:26
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CheesyMonkeystuart_, Id say definately yes07:26
HEP85*well, rather interactively than automatically07:26
stefgSivik: grub now looks for /grub/menu.lst , not /boot/grub/menu.lst07:26
Sivikok07:26
JRsup1POVaddct: random...but often while loading updates or connected to it by ssh07:26
royelfevel: I believe there is a plugin for that07:26
stuart_any major differences other than eye candy07:26
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POVaddctJRsup1: i mean switching to text console _before_ the lockup happens07:26
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Sivikstefg: so this is right now: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30459/07:27
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stuart_200mb into ubuntu d/l.. i found xubuntu. bad timing.07:27
angelicahow to view dns servers that are currently being used?07:27
w8tahViljasenMatti: hate to be a pain but it looks like the site listed in that howto is now dead as well07:27
samwizestuart_: yes, i have 128 ram and opted for xubuntu07:27
stefgSivik: you can run these commands when the machine leaves you at the prompt when failing to boot07:27
ThanatosDrivestuart_: It's switching from GNOME to Xfce4. There's a huge difference. (Well there was for me.)07:27
w8tahim gettting a marketing page07:27
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sixfourHEP85: the screen resolutions preferences page doesn't give me any other options that the ones i listed. I'll try the reconfigure util07:27
Cyber_Stalker!nvidia07:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:27
samwizestuart_: you need about 256 ram to install regular ubuntu07:27
stuart_ThanatosDrive, is that it? because i used xfce before and actually like it.07:27
JRsup1POVaddct: have not tried to switch before...sometimes it does it during the boot procedure.07:27
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Sivikthats because gnome eats ram07:27
stefgSivik: arrgh... still wrong07:27
ThanatosDrivestuart: Well Xubuntu is lightweight not just in terms of desktop.07:28
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ddelonyI have no trouble with GNOME at all.07:28
Sivikits bulky07:28
JRsup1POVaddct: Sometimes I can't even get that far07:28
POVaddctJRsup1: did you already run memtest86?07:28
stuart_hm okay dammit i'll cancel ubuntu07:28
samwizeif you install xubuntu alternate, you may run into a problem configuring anthy07:28
Sivikstefg: now what07:28
samwizebut it can be bypassed07:28
ThanatosDrivestuart_: You could always just install Ubuntu normally and then getting Xfce4.07:28
ViljasenMattiw8tah, I used it today myself!07:28
stuart_and re-download xubuntu. i can still install only with the .iso without a CD right?07:28
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JRsup1POVaddct: Yesterday...all night and day.  7 total passes on memtest from the 6.06 disk07:28
videnHow do i configure what loads at startup on my box... something daemontools did is causing my machine to shutoff at bootup07:28
w8tahhummmm -- ok -- its not giving it to me --07:29
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w8tahi have the bcmwl5.sys file on my windows partition07:29
Sivikstefg: what else do we need to try?07:29
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samwizestuart_: use ImgBurn to put the .iso into a disc07:29
marivagahola07:29
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POVaddctJRsup1: i suppose it is either faulty ram or something overheating. maybe the cpu fan or the cooler is not working?07:29
taime1i enabled the restricted driver for my nvidia card and reconfigured x... but when i try to run glxgears, i get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".07:29
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taime1Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual07:29
Sivikstefg: u still alive?07:30
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stuart_samwize, i was thinking of using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux this method with the xubuntu iso07:30
stefgSivik: can you chroot  to the installed system ?07:30
taime1why do i get that error?07:30
stuart_it's possible, right?07:30
POVaddctJRsup1: and you think it happens more often if you make use of the network card?07:30
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CheesyMonkeytaime1, You probably need to uncomment/add the Load "glx" linue in xorg07:30
Sivikhow would i do that?07:30
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videnHow do i configure what loads at startup on my box... something daemontools did is causing my machine to shutoff at bootup07:30
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stefgSivik: where's your system installed?07:31
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JRsup1POVaddct: I thought about overheating...but both CPU fans are running.  I've had the system open on a table recently and have noticed no major increase in heat from anything (using an IR thermometer to check it)07:31
samwizestuart_: those should work07:31
bullgard4How to use the program Tracker via Nautilus? I do not understand the section 'Tracker And Nautilus Search' in /usr/share/doc/tracker-search-tool/README.gz.07:31
angelicahow to view dns servers that are currently being used?07:31
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ViljasenMattiw8tah, I can download that...07:31
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POVaddctJRsup1: which network card / driver is it?07:31
JRsup1POVaddct: Possibly, but I've tried an offboard NIC too w/ no luck, and sometimes it locks during ubuntu startup07:31
Sivikstefg: sda207:31
ViljasenMattiw8tah,  OK, I give you another link07:31
JRsup1POVaddct: before nic activation07:32
stefgSivik: but you have boot on sda3 ?07:32
Sivikstefg: yes07:32
ViljasenMattiw8tah, http://www.wildpackets.com/support/hardware/brcm_driver07:32
POVaddctJRsup1: which version of ubuntu? feisty?07:32
videnHow do i configure what loads at startup on my box... something daemontools did is causing my machine to shutoff at bootup07:32
JRsup1POVaddct: 6.10 edgy07:32
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Sivikviden: quit asking the same question, either ppl don't know or don't want to help u07:32
ViljasenMattiw8tah, that has a beta driver, at least it installs OK with ndiswrapper, but is yet to be tested by me...07:32
w8tahcool - it turnd out i got it from my windows install07:32
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farskiif I am in my Edit User Settings page, and I have the password field, how can I make it so the form can be submitted without a password and not have it update teh DB to a blank password?07:32
JRsup1POVaddct: 6.06 does it too...7.04 wouldn't load for me07:32
w8tahfor fwcutter07:32
stefgSivik: bad idea... that might lead to confusion /boot physically behind / (root)07:32
POVaddctJRsup1: default edgy kernel (2.6.17) or some low latency kernel?07:33
samwizehas anyone else ever had problems with the xubuntu alternate install "anthy" configuration? i was able to fix it just fine but i was wondering if its supposed to be fixed with gutsy...07:33
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Sivikstefg: but that way when i dual boot differnt distro, i don't lose the grub07:33
ubuntu-rocksviden - give more details07:33
jorvisI just updated to 7.04 and now my screen resolution is messed up.  It should be 1680x1050, but the left-most 200px or so are black.  The xorg.conf file timestamp hasn't changed though.  Help?07:33
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JRsup1POVaddct: kept getting disk errors on 7.04.  edgy should be running the current -general kernel for SMP support07:33
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CheesyMonkeyjorvis, Sounds like you need to just auto adjust your monitor? Or maybe you did that07:33
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jorvisdid that07:34
stefgSivik: i know what you're talking of. better to have boot at a very small sda107:34
taime1why am i getting this error? Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".07:34
taime1Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual07:34
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CheesyMonkeytaime1, You probably need to uncomment/add the Load "glx" linue in xorg07:34
JRsup1POVaddct: I'm running a Supermicro 370DLE (2x PIII 933MHz) mobo07:34
taime1thats not it07:34
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taime1cheesymonkey: ive checked07:34
POVaddctJRsup1: if you are getting disk errors that is probably because of the new ide drivers (pata_*) in the feisty kernel07:34
petafile I've got a radeon x600 mobility on a laptop with a screen with native resolution 1280x800 running ubuntu studio.  When I run it at 1200 x 800 it works but looks bad(non native resolution) and I want to run it as the correct resolution.  When I run it at 1280x800 the sides of the screen wrap, gnome panel and app windows appear on the edge of the screen on the other side etc07:34
jorvishow can I query xorg to see what resolution it's running?07:34
petafileANy thoughts?  I'm running aiglx + beryl, but get the same isue with metacity07:34
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POVaddctJRsup1: i don't know that board, i even don't know the vendor07:35
stuart_oh and btw. i have no idea why. i always have problems with kde/gnome07:35
Sivikstefg: what else can we try?07:35
stuart_must be the ram. sometimes it hangs.07:35
stefgSivik: ha, that might even be a bios issue.. 1024 clinder limit, or non lba mode07:35
JRsup1POVaddct: Supermicro = server\07:35
Sivikstefg: i have never an issue with it until now07:35
Siviki may end up just having to reinstall ubuntu07:35
POVaddctJRsup1: the only "smp" board i have is in my thinkpad x60s07:35
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furballi've compiled a c++ code using gcc, and got an "a.out". how do i run it?07:35
stefgSivik: waht is on sda1 now?07:36
ViljasenMattiFurax-, write ./a.out07:36
POVaddctfurball: ./a.out07:36
ddelonyfurball: "./a,out"07:36
Sivikwinblows07:36
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CoUdErMaNnnos en chat para ver si empiesan a entrar07:36
Sivikenglish07:36
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stefgSivik: on ntfs ?07:36
Sivikstefg: yes07:36
furballthanks07:36
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royelviden: look in /etc/init.d/  you should find a startup script for daemontools there07:36
stuart_and will it be possible to connect my nokia through USB to linux?07:37
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DammmmGuys howto change the Eterm font size ???07:37
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PriceChildCoUdErMaNn, it?07:37
JRsup1POVaddct: SMP is just to split the load over both processors07:37
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POVaddctJRsup1: i know07:37
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stefgSivik: you don't need a reinstall, i'd just strongly recommend to squeeze a 64 MB partition to the beginnig of the drive and put /boot there. But this will require some windows partitioning tool. gParted will fail07:38
videnroyal:  i am not finding anything for the software there ..07:38
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lacunacoilanyone know of a working repository for php5 pls?07:38
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PriceChildlacunacoil, feisty?07:38
videnroyel:  i am not finding anything for the software there ..07:39
royelviden: look then in /etc/07:39
videnk looking07:39
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outrageoushlike omigosh07:39
taime1why am i getting this error?: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".07:39
taime1Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual07:39
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PriceChildlacunacoil, wait a minute, php5 is in all the ubuntu distributions07:39
ViljasenMattitaime1, what 3D card you have?07:39
taime1nvidia geforce207:39
Cyber_Stalker!nvidia07:39
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:39
videnroyel: nothing there07:39
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taime1i have the driver installed correctly07:40
Noodlesgccan someone help me, when i try to install the python-wxgtk2.8, it tells me libc6 is not installed, but ive reinstalled it and it still wont work07:40
royelviden: go to pm's07:40
sixfouris there a command to force /etc/X11/xorg.conf reload or do i have to restart?07:40
ulissehello tribe!07:40
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jorvissixfour: you can CTRL+ALT+BKSP07:40
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sixfourjorvis: thank you07:40
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taime1okay, can someone who knows what they are doing, answer my question about the error?07:40
JRsup1POVaddct: I've tried switching to VESA video drivers from NV with no luck, changing NICs, removing all but one hard drive and my Promise RAID card.07:40
demonstealerhow do i configure a wireless connection in ubuntu?07:41
outrageoush#bsd07:41
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outrageoush:))07:41
JRsup1POVaddct: Is it possible to give ubuntu too much memory?  I know this used to be a problem with windows.....07:41
frogzoo!wifi | demonstealer07:41
ubotudemonstealer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:41
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ViljasenMattiulisse, did that mean that gutsy tribe3 is out?07:41
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Noodlesgc!python-wxgtk07:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about python-wxgtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:41
w8tahViljasenMatti: its all working -- thank you very much!07:41
Noodlesgc!wxpython07:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wxpython - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:41
sixfourahh much better, finally got ubuntu working properly on my 30" LG Flatron L3000H07:41
ulisseViljasenMatti: nope :) I use to say "hello tribe" to the channel since the times of warty warthog :)07:42
Noodlesgc!wx07:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:42
ddelony!kernrl07:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kernrl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:42
ddelony!kernel07:42
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild07:42
Noodlesgc!python-wx07:42
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about python-wx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:42
stuart-flash card readers work with linux, right? i see that as an alternative to handphone connectivity?07:42
ulisseis anybody experiencing problem with file uploads on services like zoomr or pownce with firefox?07:42
bigcx2hey all07:42
profanephobiahey has anyone heard anything about Ubuntu Mobile lately?07:42
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POVaddctJRsup1: how much RAM do you have on that board?07:42
bigcx2does anyone know how to remove the gnome splash screen from the command line????07:42
ViljasenMattiw8tah, you're welcome07:42
ddelony!splash screen07:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about splash screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:43
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JRsup1POVaddct: 1792MB07:43
lacunacoilPricecjhild didnt come with mine, feisty worked though, thanks!07:43
ViljasenMattiulisse, it seems to be out, so thanks for nothing?! ;---D07:44
POVaddctJRsup1: more than enough07:44
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ulisseViljasenMatti: U'r welcome anyway ;)07:44
Cyber_Stalker!compiz fusion07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compiz fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
profanephobiahey has anyone heard anything about Ubuntu Mobile lately?07:44
Noodlesgc!python-wx07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about python-wx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
Noodlesgc!python07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
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Pici!msgthebot07:44
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...07:44
Koniki have a problem07:44
JRsup1POVaddct: I thought I saw somewhere on IRC once a mention that there is a rule of thumb for setting swap-space based on amount of available RAM07:44
Konikbut...07:45
Koniki join with bash.org.pl07:45
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ulisseprofanephobia: I've heard the same question about two minutes ago, that's all :)07:45
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hjmillsJRsup1, used to be 2xRAM but with the size of RAM now that isn't so relevant07:45
Konikand i cannot see anything07:45
Noodlesgcthis blows07:45
profanephobiaalrighty07:45
samwizebrb07:45
POVaddctJRsup1: not necessarily. nearly 2 gig of ram can do without swap, of course it depends on what you do on the machine.07:45
videnis there a way for me to tell what the last process running was before the machine crashed ?07:45
jorvisJRsup1: double ram but stop at 4gb07:45
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ViljasenMattiJRsup1, I gave 2 gigs of ram and the only thing I have swap partition for is hibernation ;)07:46
profanephobiadoes anyone here use enlightenment because i need help on changing the desktop icons07:46
jorvisJRsup1: if you hit 4gb swap usage you've got other problems07:46
profanephobiaor the icon set07:46
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rapflapwhere d6 5 change 0y 2eyb6ard07:47
`paulwhile doing a ./configure i got this error : termcap support not found... what could be the problem?07:47
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JRsup1Ah...there it is...I think I may have too much swap space.  I don't remember how much I have but I may have left too much space open.  My intention is to use it as a VMWare server once I get it stable and my RAID5 working07:47
rapflap5ts n6t wery g66d n6w07:47
hjmillsi have 2 gig of ram an I am using 0 swap (though I have 2 gig)07:47
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Pici!locale | rapflap07:47
uboturapflap: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf07:47
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hjmillsrapflap, turn the numlock on your laptop off if its on...07:47
videnguys i really need help machine is hosed atm ... is there a way to tell what the last process was before my system crashes ?07:48
sauvinI installed kubuntu, and the computer automatically boots into kde. I am unable to log into it but have no trouble logging into a virtual terminal. What's wrong?07:48
digital1Is exim4 any good? I'm a Postfix users.07:48
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POVaddctJRsup1: maybe the raid controller is the problem. i always hated hardware from promise.07:48
ViljasenMattihjmills, I have the same situation07:48
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anthony_hi guys, im running fiesty.. and i want to increase my resolution to 1280 1024, i tried sudo nvidia-settings and setting it from there07:48
anthony_ when i click on apply it works but even after saving the settings and restarting07:48
anthony_ it forgets everything07:48
rapflapohh, tnx lol ;)07:48
geniividen look at /var/log/messages07:48
JRsup1POVaddct: I thought so too, but it locks up on a fresh load before installing the card07:48
ViljasenMattirapflap, yes, numlock07:48
rapflapi didnt know numlock worked that way07:48
ViljasenMattinow you do :)07:48
stefg!fixres | anthony_07:48
ubotuanthony_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:48
videngenii:  looking07:49
ViljasenMattimy laptop has "disable touchpad" button, confusing if one doesn't know that :)07:49
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geniividen  /var/log/messages is large, you may want only: tail /var/log/messages07:49
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videngenii:  nope its just messages from nagios07:50
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bullgard4angelica: resolvconf?07:50
POVaddctJRsup1: and it locks up with 6.06 too?07:50
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tapioHow come the Gnome Resolution Manager-thing overrides the settings in xorg.conf?07:50
sauvinI can't log into X but can log into a virtual terminal. Forgive me if I'm being rude; BitchX isn't the best of all possible irc clients :\07:51
sauvinWhat's wrong?07:51
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CheesyMonkeysauvin, Id check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any error messages starting (EE) usually at the bottom :)07:51
POVaddctsauvin: the best of all possible irc clients is irssi.07:51
stefgsauvin: any noticable error messages?07:51
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POVaddctsauvin: if you can't log into X, check if the root partition (or /home partition) is full07:52
sauvinIt wont' accept a wrong pasword, but when I put in the right password, it blinks and then returns to the login screen.07:52
sauvinIt's not full.07:52
Sbabli[ASK]  What's your favorite cd/dvd burning software?07:52
geniividen  There are many other logfiles there regarding applications etc. So you can do like: tail/var/log/<logname> to see the last lines of each, may or may not be helpful. The ones I would see first are  faillog, dmesg,lastlog and kern.log07:52
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ubotuSbabli: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto07:52
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tapioHow do I set the resolition I want? The Screen Resolution tool in gnome doesn't show the best resolution..07:53
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videnill look07:53
anthony_so nvidia-settings wont work on its own?07:53
CheesyMonkey!fixres | tapio07:53
ubotutapio: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:53
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POVaddctsauvin: then check the file .xsession-errors in your home dir07:53
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Some_Personhow do i change my password?07:53
Sbablithank you. i try it now07:53
sauvinkk... another vc coming right up07:53
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POVaddctSome_Person: type "passwd" in a terminal07:53
ariczAhhh, anyone remeber what was supposed to be in "Drive Mappings" for C: in Wine ? I managed to mess it up of course..07:53
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sojiro22==07:53
Some_PersonPOVaddct: is there a GUI way?07:53
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sauvinIt says "no profile for user 'sauvin' found.07:54
stefgaricz: #winehq07:54
ariczstefg : danke07:54
swmiller6Some_Person: yes07:54
dyrnesauvin: other than an xorg setting id sudo adduser real quick and test that its not a local config issue07:54
Some_Personswmiller6: what is it?07:54
swmiller6the about me07:54
sauvindyrne, if I understand you properly, why am I able to log into a virtual terminal, then?07:54
videnno information of use in those07:54
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JRsup1POVaddct: yeah. 6.06 and 6.10.  I was about to try and install windows for the heck of it to see if it was a Linux/Hardware issue (if I can find my spare key....)07:55
swmiller6Some_Person:Menu>System>Preferences>About Me07:55
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dyrnesauvin: i meant like a gnome or x config issue.07:55
dyrnesauvin: one of those pesky .files07:55
videnis there anyway to just start ubuntu with step by step ok for each process starting ?07:55
Shedow/Join #UUbuntu-br07:55
Some_Personcan i make me have no password?07:55
JRsup1POVaddct: and for some reason the 7.04 disks all give up a disk error when running disk check, but when I take the same disk to my desktop they check out just fine...07:56
stefgsauvin: so X (read gdm) starts, but you can't log in to your account. what happens if you add a fresh user for testing and log in as taht?07:56
KtronHaving a problem where ubuntu off of the livecd is running at the 640x480, but I've removed all of those modes and init 1 then init 5'd... Any suggestions how/what I need to do?07:56
swmiller6Some_Person: yes07:56
swmiller6well auto login07:56
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sauvinstefg, that's an idea... let me try...07:56
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JRsup1POVaddct: my 6.06 and 6.10 disks check fine on the server by not the 7.04's07:56
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Some_Personswmiller6: without auto login07:56
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swmiller6Some_Person: not that I know of07:56
Some_Personswmiller6: oh well07:57
dyrneKtron: the lower modes dont matter itll try em in that right to left order i believe. does grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf  say vesa?07:57
geniividen Not easily. There are some debug-compiled kernels which developers use but i would not know where to point you for that, and not sure it's such a great approach anyhow07:57
dyrneKtron: er left to right07:57
swmiller6Some_Person: are you the only user on the machine07:57
askandYay..ubuntu cant install graphicdrivers for my new computer..it dont find my usbwlan..and it cant even play sounds! Great..07:57
Some_Personswmiller6: no07:57
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dyrneaskand: i blame the manufacturer ;p07:57
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askanddyrne: hp?07:58
sauvinNo joy. DummyPerson who just got added as a user can also log in a virtual terminal but not into X.07:58
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Ktrondyrne, Nope, i810 I think07:58
askandI guess I was just lucky to get a laptop ubuntu works on..07:58
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sauvinThis is a very recent install of Ubuntu. 24 hours, in fact. I think maybe I downloaded one too many packages. And so, when I get home tonight, I'll just re-install it.07:58
stefgsauvin: any beryl/compiz/xgl stuff involved?07:59
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sauvinstefg, no.07:59
dyrneKtron: you have manual on the monitor? or know the model? you can try plugging in the correct vert and horz specs in xorg.conf07:59
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Ktrondyrne, It's a Dell, I'll google for them07:59
videnI am out of options here it seems .. something is shuting down the system at bootup and i have no idea how to find out what07:59
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dyrneaskand: what driver? nvidia should be pretty easy or intel08:00
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sauvinfor what it's worth, folks complaining about their computers not running ubuntu fully, I have an HP laptop with similar problems, and not just in ubuntu. Blame the manufacturers, because no linux (or any other *nix) supports my hardware fully.08:00
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geniividen You may want to remove the boot option quiet and examine the scroll as it boots08:00
stefgsauvin: so gnome has just put in the divorce, it seems.... already fsck'd the drive?08:00
askanddyrne: ati :D ofcourse :(08:00
videnfrom the grub menu .. right ?08:00
geniividen yes08:01
Ktrondyrne, Ack, meeting, be back later, thanks for the suggestion, hopefully that helps08:01
videnk08:01
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dyrneaskand: i have no real ati exp sorry08:01
sauvinOh, I seriously doubt the drive is screwed. I think a package I downloaded clobbered something in X.08:01
dyrneKtron: good luck :)08:01
askanddyrne: but dont really care about that..thats just annoying that it says I can install this for you!" and then screws up my xorg.conf....I just want some sound08:01
geniividen ESC then edit the end of the default kernel it boots, remove the quiet option08:01
askand:(08:01
stefgsauvin: so what was it?08:01
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sauvinNo damned idea. I may never know, but I strongly suspect Kubuntu package download.08:01
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dyrneaskand: buy a chep 20 dollar nvidia. itll be enought to play most any linux game:)08:02
Some_Personso i can't have a blank password in ubuntu?08:02
stefgsauvin: try a failsafe session08:02
hjmillsI think I will try here as it cant count as support but i want to talk to current users, not people trying the devel release08:02
sauvinExperience is the best teacher; I didn't know that a default intall from the livecd defaults to gnome but does include KDE, you just have to know where to click to find that option.08:02
dyrneSome_Person: you can do autologin but not a blank password at least easily i think08:02
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askanddyrne: yeah...or Ill keep my completly functioning XP installation :P08:02
sauvinfailsaife, that sounds cheap, easy and fast... back in a bit.08:02
sayersHello08:02
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SleepingSlothhello - I've got a problem with a driver (nvidia (installed from a .run)) not working after a reboot - I'm thinking its because the module is not being loaded - how do I get that module to load on startup?08:03
sayersI want to record my desktop, what would be a good program to do this for AMD64?08:03
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dyrneSleepingSloth: dapper or feisty?08:03
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swmiller6sayers: gtkrecordnydesktoip08:03
SleepingSlothdyrne: feisty08:03
dyrnesayers: istanbul i think too08:04
swmiller6sayers: gtkrecordnydesktop08:04
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sayersswmiller6, gtk-recordmydesktop08:05
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dyrneSleepingSloth: i seem to remember an issue with restricted drivers basically almost blacklisting nvidia but i think that was dapper08:05
swmiller6sayers: yes thats it08:05
SleepingSlothdyrne: I've got x to work more-or-less as I want it after installing the driver, but as soon as I reboot... X crashes08:05
stefgSleepingSloth: any particular reason not to use the driver from the repos?08:05
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dyrneSleepingSloth: linux-restriced-modules i mean08:05
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dyrneSleepingSloth: are you fully updated?08:06
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gerrostefg dyrne: if the driver from repos doesn't work then you could try using the -new one but that usually screws up your system and you can't ever use the installer from site which is even newer08:06
SleepingSlothstefg: well - to come clean, its not my machine - its a mates, and he'd already installed the driver downloaded from nvidia, and changing to nvidia-glx resulted in an API mismatch08:06
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SleepingSlothdyrne: yes08:06
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berentall the iso image files burnt on cd are having root ownership and permissions . will it boot?08:07
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aguaithefreakanybody?08:07
berenti have checked out md5 also. its' perfect08:07
gerroSleepingSloth: I tried using k7 kernel with nvidia-glx-new and everything was all screwed up complete dependency hell so I had to reinstall08:07
dyrneSleepingSloth: id try a sudo NV*.sh --uninstall and then nvidia-glx again but i dunno. i cant remember the location of the restricted-modules config in /etc08:07
aguaithefreakanyonr on feisty now08:07
aguaithefreak?08:07
gerroaguaithefreak: most everyone, why?08:08
stefgSleepingSloth: it's a conflict between linux-restricted-manager and the nvidia *.sh installer. i'd prefer to uninstall the nvidia-.sh stuff and use the nvidia-glx-new, otherwise X will break at every kernel update08:08
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aguaithefreakplz tell me the version of kernel image08:08
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SleepingSlothstefg: I've uninstalled the downloaded driver and moved to nvidia-glx, but that wont work now - because of this API mismatch08:09
SleepingSlothderro: complete reinstall you mean>08:09
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berentall the iso image files burnt on cd are having root ownership and permissions . will it boot? i have checked out md5 also. its' perfect . i am talking about puppy linux08:09
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aguaithefreakgerro: plz tell me the version on feisty08:09
ladydooraguaithefreak: In a terminal, do uname -a.08:10
SleepingSlothstefg: the card is fairly old, and I dont think it is supported by nvidia-glx-new - its a geforce 4 ti 460008:10
qrtIs it possible to install a program when using the live cd?08:10
reed026aguaithefreak: think the current kernel is 2.6.2, but don't quote me ;)08:10
stefgSleepingSloth: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules linux-restricted-manager nvidia-glx.08:10
Jack_Sparrowqrt: yes08:10
dyrneqrt: yeah and if you decide to run the installer too the program will be installed to the HD too i think08:10
aguaithefreakladydoor: I m on gutsy Alpha08:10
SleepingSlothstefg: let me give that a whirl - brb08:10
Jack_Sparrowqrt: But you will lose it when you power down unless you setup persistent mode to a usb or the hard drive08:11
TopherHuntHey, can anyone tell me where I can modify boot settings? Like, how do I disable the 20-second delay that I assume is testing for network boot or whatever.08:11
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qrtJack_Sparrow: dyrne: cool, thanks08:11
ladydooraguaithefreak: Ah, and you're asking about a different version. Nevermind, then08:11
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TopherHuntI want to be able to boot under a minute.08:11
pianoboy3333Anyone know what package pyfreeze.py is in, and where I can find it on my system?08:11
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qrtJack_Sparrow: Well that's alright I just want access to all my passwords that are locked in a revelation file which I can't open in Windows. I've waited for that more almost 4 weeks now :)08:12
aguaithefreakso somebody plz tell me the feisty kernel version08:12
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qrtaguaithefreak: it's very easy to find if you just google it08:12
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Jack_Sparrowqrt: what are you trying to install to open a window file?08:12
endoI cannot seem to open up utorrent by double clicking on the tray icon anymore, wtf.08:13
ASDdCAn someone help me with my ATI card?08:13
endojust can't get the window to show up08:13
ASDd:(08:13
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Jack_Sparrowaguaithefreak: cli uname -a08:13
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aguaithefreakladydoor: plz let me know yours?08:13
VSpikeaguaithefreak: 2.6.20-15-generic08:13
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endoand f-spot froze and I don't now how to kill it08:13
ladydoorpianoboy3333: try "apt-file search pyfreeze.py" to find out what package, and "locate pyfreeze.py" to find the file (if it's newly installed, do "sudo updatedb" first).08:13
endojust wont close08:13
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reed026ASDd : can you be more specific?08:13
videnI just cant read that screen at bootup .. its way too fast.  whatever is causing my machine to poweroff at bootup is the first item ran from the startup script08:13
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SleepingSlothstefg: cant find linux-restricted-manager    ?08:14
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ladydooraguaithefreak: I don't use the one you're looking for, sorry.08:14
qrtJack_Sparrow: I'm using windows now because linux won't install on my harddrive (I've asked for help on ubuntuforums, linuxquestions, #ubuntu, #debian, no luck) and no program will open the Revelation (gnome program) file.08:14
jribpianoboy3333: use packages.ubuntu.com to search the contents of packages08:14
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aguaithefreakJack_Sparrow: Im on gutsy so .....08:14
Some_PersonDoes anyone know how to have an empty/blank/no password on Ubuntu?08:14
pianoboy3333jrib: thanks08:14
jribor apt-file like ladydoor said08:14
TopherHuntDoes anyone know - is there a config file where you can tweak the boot sequence to disable options and cut down on boot time?08:14
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ASDd reed026: I tried to activate restricted drivers and got only a black screen after boot..now Im on vesa..can you help me get my drivers working?08:14
Jack_Sparrowaguaithefreak: Ok, good luck..08:14
aguaithefreakVSpike: thx08:14
stefgSleepingSloth: it's restricted-manager (no linux-)08:14
MilitantPotatoHey all08:15
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alexandrafrankin   hfgh08:15
berentall the iso image files burnt on cd are having root ownership and permissions(444) . will it boot? i have checked out md5 also. its' perfect . i am talking about puppy linux08:15
MilitantPotatowhat java package do I get to view java in firefox?08:15
ViakenI have a user I'm trying to use the Remote Desktop with. I've setup a ssh tunnel, and successfully connected to her machine. However, once the initial view loads, the screen never refreshes.08:15
ViakenAnyone have a similar issue?08:15
alexandrak08:15
jribMilitantPotato: sun-java6-plugin08:15
jrib!java > MilitantPotato (see the private message from ubotu)08:15
videnCan anyone please help me . my system is unbootable and i need to work08:15
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MilitantPotatoty jrib08:15
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s0nixis it possible to mount 100gb of space (on 2 differents disk) in /home ??08:15
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pianoboy3333jrib: uggg... not helping.. apt-file can't and it's not on packages.ubuntu.com...08:16
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stefg!doesn'twork08:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about doesn'twork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:16
stefg!doesntwork08:16
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.08:16
jribpianoboy3333: what is pyfreeze.py?08:16
SleepingSlothstefg: ahah...API mismatch again08:16
Viaken!remote desktop08:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:16
Viakenlol08:16
pianoboy3333jrib: it's that program that freezes python packages08:16
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Jack_Sparrowberent: No one can answer that...  It depends on the program on the cd.. DO you see many files on the iso or just one file.?08:16
SleepingSlothstefg: NVIDIA kernel is version 9639, but the X module has version 963108:16
videnWhen i boot my machine it starts the ubuntu loading screen and then powers off08:16
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stefgSleepingSloth: how did you uninstall the Nvidia-*,sh thingie ?08:16
berentJack_Sparrow: there are many files08:16
pianoboy3333jrib: I must be calling it the wrong thing...08:16
Jack_Sparrowberent: Then I suggest you try to boot it.08:17
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jribpianoboy3333: it's not in ubuntu repos, so maybe try asking #python about it?08:17
geniiqrt Looking into some fileconverter/reader now08:17
SleepingSlothstefg: Nvidia-*.sh --uninstall08:17
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pianoboy3333jrib: I'm doing that too... the guy there says he's never heard of it.. I think i'm calling it the wrong thing... lol.. crap I really need this08:17
stefgSleepingSloth: yeah, taht's the right way...08:17
berentJack_Sparrow: i tried without any error message it silently boots the second device -hard disk08:17
maxagazcan I run "sudo fsck /dev/sda2" knowing that /dev/sda2 is htf+ partition ?08:18
videncan anyone help me ?08:18
maxagazhfs+08:18
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pianoboy3333jrib: it "freezes" python scripts so that it bundles the interpreter with them so you can give it to someone who doesn't have python on their system... like py2exe for linux basically08:18
jrib!helpme | viden08:18
ubotuviden: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:18
MilitantPotatoWhats the keyboard kungfu to open the terminal08:18
videnjrib: i have like 10 times ...08:18
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Jack_Sparrowberent: then it isnt a bootable iso.. at least in the form that it is now.08:18
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berentJack_Sparrow: md5sum is perfect08:19
videnjib: When i boot my machine it starts the ubuntu loading screen and then powers off08:19
ladydoorMilitantPotato: what desktop environment/window manager do you use? Ask the question again including that info. and somebody will help you out :-)08:19
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jribviden: then no one atm knows how to help you or has not seen your question.  Best to wait 15-20 minutes and ask again or try other support options08:19
berentJack_Sparrow: but the permissions are 444 . is that a problem?08:19
jrib!support > viden (see the private message from ubotu)08:19
SleepingSlothstefg: okay - any suggestions as to what to try next?08:19
Jack_Sparrowberent: ask the people in puppy linux.. that is what you are tryint to create and install.08:19
jribviden: does it get past grub?08:19
MilitantPotatoIn ubuntu using nautilus, whats the keyboard shortcut to open Terminal?08:19
MilitantPotatoit is nautilus right?08:19
berentJack_Sparrow: which channel?08:19
videnyes ... gets to the graphical ubuntu loading screen goes 1/2 way through the first bubble and then turns off08:20
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Jack_Sparrowberent: Not Ubuntu...08:20
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MilitantPotatoor is that the name for the directory viewer... :S08:20
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Some_Personi figured it out how to make blank/no password08:20
jribMilitantPotato: there isn't one by default, but you can set one up in system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts08:20
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stefgSleepingSloth: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx08:20
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MilitantPotatojrib, thanks again08:20
videnjrib:  it has to be like the first or second item starting,but i dont know where to look for where the startup script is08:21
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jribviden: choose recovery mode at the grub menu and see if that loads ok08:21
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furballwhat's linux's equaivalnt of system("cls")?08:21
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mirakhi08:21
videnjrib:  it does not, and it scrolls so fast i cant see where it actually stops08:22
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mirakis there a better tool to change runlevel services thant the one in Gnome ?08:22
SleepingSlothstefg: okay, same error I'm afraid...08:22
miraknot all services appears08:22
drunken-wallabyhi together. is there a iso of ubuntu 7/04 (feisty) available that includes all bug- and security fixes since this version was released? if so, where can i download such an iso? thx08:22
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Falstiusfurball: clear screen?08:22
jribmirak: sysv-rc-conf is nice08:23
furballyea08:23
MilitantPotato:D08:23
furballto clear the teminal08:23
furballin c++08:23
Falstiusfurball: 'clear'08:23
videnisnt there a file that tells ubuntu what to start in what order ?08:23
EightElevendrunken-wallaby: If it exists, then it should be possible to download it from ubuntu.com08:23
stefgSleepingSloth: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/91648-nvidia-api-mismatch-feisty.html08:23
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viden!rc.local08:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rc.local - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:24
viden!rc08:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:24
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crolle17how is the package named for svn? there are lot of packages like esvn, websvn, kdesvn ...08:24
jribviden: does a live cd work ok?  The manpage for update-rc.d explains how ubuntu starts stuff up atm08:24
mirakjrib: why not all services appears in gnome stuff ?08:24
videnyes i am on live cd right now08:24
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jribmirak: I don't know08:24
MilitantPotatoWhile im here08:24
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aileancan you read me? im using irssi and don't know if i've reg'd properly08:24
drunken-wallabyEightEleven thx, i just looked there and was redirected to the ordinary mirrors where only the released isos from april are available.... i remember that for dapper? minor upgrades 6.06.1 and 2 have been released...08:25
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angelicahow can i enable dhcp on dnsmasq?08:25
MilitantPotatohas anyone gotten Beryl to work on a 580 core (X1000) ATI card?08:25
jribailean: yep, and you're identified08:25
HEP85ailean: can read you well08:25
MilitantPotatoIn ubuntu*08:25
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marshallsomehow the little ubuntu icon in my main menu changed to the fedora icon... how do i change it back?08:25
jribviden: do you have any theories on why it just stopped working?  Something new you did the last time it was working ok?08:26
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aileani have a mobility radeon x1300 and can't get it to work under ubuntu.  something to do with no useable configurations08:26
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jribmarshall: it might be the icon theme you are using08:26
crolle17it's called subversion08:26
CheesyMonkeymarshall, If you installed an icon theme id delete distributor-logo from ./icons08:26
MilitantPotatoI'd guess i'd get the same error ailean08:26
aileani tried the reconfigure tool, but it gave a signal 1108:26
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MilitantPotato:(08:27
aileanMilitantPotato: any luck with it?08:27
SleepingSlothstefg: still no joy after that fix.... :S08:27
marshallok, thanks CheesyMonkey and jrib08:27
MilitantPotatoI can't even get desktop effects to work.08:27
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MilitantPotatoI really, really want a 3d desktop08:27
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aileanMilitantPotato: i can't even get a display08:27
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aileanMilitantPotato: i'm using a text based irc client now08:27
videnjrib: i installed 2-3 things before i rebooted ... daemontools was one, but i dont think it caused the issue, i cant remember the other 2's name.  if i could just launch FF from my original hd and look at the history file i could see08:27
jribMilitantPotato: #ubuntu-effects can help you with that08:27
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ViljasenMattiMilitantPotato, tried XGL?08:28
MilitantPotatojrib, tried that, no luck last time I was in, I'll check back in later today though :)08:28
MilitantPotatoVil, no08:28
aileani think my problem is something to do with the unusual native resolution of the screen - 1280 x 800.  Can anyone help?08:28
MilitantPotatoDoes XGL support newer ATI cards?08:28
jribviden: have you mounted the partition that ubuntu is on?08:28
MilitantPotatoailean08:28
aileanMilitantPotato: the effects room is really what you want08:28
ViljasenMattiMil, I actually don't know, but that way you can use fglrx08:28
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stefgSleepingSloth: ok, i'm running ot of ideas. a quite brutal mehod would be to 'locate nvidia.ko' delete /all/ of them, then reinstall linux-restricted modules again, to restore the correct nvidia.ko08:28
ViljasenMatti!ati08:28
MilitantPotatosudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:28
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:28
MilitantPotatomake sure you create a backup08:29
videnjrib:  yes its /media/disk-108:29
aileanMilitantPotato: ok then what08:29
MilitantPotatomaking a mistake in that file and the GUI won't boot08:29
MilitantPotatoone second ailean08:29
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ichahii'm here i'm here08:29
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aileanMilitantPotato: it never did boot, so i have nothing to lose :)  it's a fresh install.08:29
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SleepingSlothstefg: a dpkg-query -l | grep nvidia shows all of the relevant bits with the right variant - ie 963108:29
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SleepingSlothstefg: so I'll give your suggestion a go.... its either that or get the liveCD back out....08:30
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stefgSleepingSloth: but a wrong nvidia.ko gets loaded. Thsi is a leftover from the NVIDIA*.sh install08:30
jribviden: try taking a look at the logs in /media/disk-1/var/log08:30
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ViljasenMattiMilitantPotato, are you aware that in (at least) feistys beryl packages you don't get one .sh file you'll need?08:31
SleepingSlothstefg: locate nvidia.ko returns nothing08:31
MilitantPotatoVil, I've not installed beryl08:31
MilitantPotatoI tried one GUI, but the name escapes me08:31
ViljasenMatticompiz08:31
MilitantPotatoyea.08:31
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DJ-_-any irc servers on ubuntu?08:32
MilitantPotatoThat failed miserably08:32
stefgSleepingSloth: sudo updatedb && sudo locate nvidia.ko08:32
MilitantPotatoailean: i cant use postbin for some reason08:32
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videnjrib:  messages and faillog show nothing08:32
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moyerwow08:32
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MilitantPotatoIn this section08:32
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jribviden: dmesg?08:32
moyerthere is a massive amount of people up in here08:33
mirakjrib:  sysv-rc-conf is nice08:33
MilitantPotatoSection "Screen"08:33
MilitantPotato Identifier "Default Screen"08:33
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MilitantPotatounder 2408:33
moyermirak : whats that do?08:33
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jribMilitantPotato: use pastebin.ca if http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org isn't working for you08:33
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MilitantPotatoty jrib08:33
MilitantPotatoits crashing firefox for some reason08:33
sauvinBooting into recovery mode didn't help me identify what could be wrong with X that it wouldn't let me log in, while at the same time I could log into a virtual terminal with zero problem.08:33
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mirakmoyer: it updates runlevel services08:33
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Krisser50hey08:34
moyermirak : ooo ok cool thanks.08:34
videnjrib:  nothing last thing it knew about was starting the network card08:34
MilitantPotatoailean: this is my line http://pastebin.ca/62652308:34
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Krisser50can anyone help me with NXCLIENT on Ubuntu 6.06?08:34
j65hola08:34
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MilitantPotatoAlso, make sure the refresh rates are within what your monitor can handle if it's CRT08:34
jribviden: I don't know then, not sure how to figure out what's going on08:35
sauvinThe cool thing is that ubuntu is such a QUICK critter that re-installing isn't going to be a problem. Takes about twenty minutes.08:35
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dk4nnojuanpablo,http://laespiral.org/recetas/1-100/receta38.html08:35
Krisser50can anyone help me? i seriously need help :(08:35
videni am going to cry if i have to reload this machine, i just finished getting nagios to work and i have like 100 conf files i dont have the time to redo08:35
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MilitantPotatoinstalling ubuntu took over an hour :(08:35
extigyhey everyone, what is the apt command for updating the distro?08:35
skunk_hi08:35
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ViljasenMattividen get a backup of /etc08:36
chambawho knows where can i get help with Beryl?08:36
sauvinMilitantPotato, it took me about twenty minutes, and I was dawdling. YMMV.08:36
dk4nnoextigy, apt-get ugrade08:36
martoyaextigy: sudo apt-get update for update the repositories and then sudo apt-get upgrade08:36
MajorPayneextigy: "aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade"08:36
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extigyhey everyone, what is the apt command for updating the distro?08:36
dk4nnoextigy, apt-get upgrade08:36
angelicahow can i force to rediscover the network sending new arp requests?08:36
ViljasenMattichamba, let me hear it, i know a little...08:36
angelicai messed out with my interfaces and now "arp" returns no data08:36
jribextigy: do you want to upgrade to a new release or just update packages?08:36
dyrneextigy: /msg ubotu upgrade08:36
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kupesoftWhat's a good <10" ultra-portable laptop/handtop for ubuntu?08:36
chambai installed Beryl, everything looks normal, but doesn't work08:36
dmglouiscan anyone help? i just installed ubuntu in a dualboot with win2000 and now when i restart it says error loading operating system. i have to use the live cd to do anything. also i can get in the windows only if i use the super grub disk to boot into it but i have no luck with the ubuntu side of it08:37
jribchamba: #ubuntu-effects can help you with that08:37
chambaI mean no effects no nothing08:37
stefg!beryl | chamba08:37
ubotuchamba: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects08:37
MilitantPotatochamba:  #ubuntu-effects08:37
ladydoorextigy: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:37
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videnwhat is the command to view the FF profiles ?08:37
neverblueanyone know how a shell history works when you have multiple shells open ?08:37
chambathank you, will go to that channel08:37
videnprofile-manager or something08:37
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ladydoorextigy: (after an apt-get update, of course)08:37
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txopihi all08:37
jribviden: something like, it's a switch to firefox.  'man firefox' will tell you what it is exactly08:38
apfelAnyone using ubuntu with Samsung's q30 or q40?08:38
txopii have the typicall ubuntu newby problem08:38
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MeyvnMilitantPotato: I see you've become quite comfortable in here :)08:38
txopihow can i boot windows partition editing grub?08:38
jribextigy: if you're upgrading to a new release, dist-upgrade is discouraged and update-manager is preferred08:38
jrib!upgrade > extigy (see the private message from ubotu)08:38
stefg!faq | txopi08:38
ubotutxopi: A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage08:38
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ViljasenMattitxopi, ubuntu installer should have taken care of it already08:38
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RoninAwesomeI've got a problem installing ubuntu but I think it's a hardware problem08:39
txopiubotu, i'm not so newbie in linux08:39
RoninAwesomein case anyone thinks they might be able to help08:39
txopii have the same as other times08:39
Kjellvizhi there, it seems OSS aint working on my comp, ALSA running fine, how can i check for sure and how can i install and enable OSS ?08:39
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pianoboy3333does anyone here know about changing the color of the font in the terminal in a bash script?08:40
txopiroot(hd0,6) meakeactive chainloader+108:40
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maxagazI did a "sudo fsck /dev/sda3" on my ext3 root partition, and now when I mount it from live cd, I realize there is no /bin directory, how to repare that ?08:40
`4aFkA`i have Jt-c1000 pc camera can i find drivers???08:40
RoninAwesometxopi, damn you got a lot of partions on that drive08:40
txopi/dev/sda6 has all the contents i want to load08:40
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jribpianoboy3333: google for 'bash color codes'08:40
pianoboy3333ok08:40
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SleepingSlothstefg: okay... I removed all of the .ko files, removed linux-restricted-modules, reinstalled linux-restricted-modules again, and still got the same result08:41
`4aFkA`i have Jt-c1000 pc camera can i find drivers???08:41
txopiRoninAwesome: yes :-D08:41
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dmglouishello, i have a weird problem. after installing ubuntu on a dualboot with win2000, every time i restart it says: "error loading operating system". Now, i can't get into ubuntu but i can into windows but only if i use the super grub disk.08:41
stefgSleepingSloth: and nvidia-glx ?08:41
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quaaldoes anyone know about fsck and if it can cause data loss or if something missing after it is run can be recovered ?08:42
tehtechmananyone else have probs with adobe flash hanging up firefox?  any way to remedy that?08:42
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neverblueanyone know how a shell history works when you have multiple shells open ?08:42
OldPinkAnyone know how to get Direct Rendering on ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x working?08:42
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jribneverblue: what shell?08:42
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neverbluebash08:42
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videnjrib:  i think the app that broke things was runit ...08:42
SleepingSlothstefg: sorry, my brain has gone to mush08:42
stefgSleepingSloth: you might want to investigate with google. That's a quite common error, as i found out08:42
Newbie_DudeI installed Google Picasa from Google but now I don't want it -- it's too slow and runs through Wine -- how do I uninstall it? >_<08:42
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W_McLtehtechman, had similar problems too. i guess it's a problem in flash, so only adobe can do anything about it08:42
SamyHi.08:43
OldPinkBeen working on this for hours now and it's getting fuck off annoying, tried god knows how many 16 page threads packed full of solutions, thousands of reboots, hundreds of X restarts, millions of guides, billions of terminal commands and no change, just a system full of crap that doesn't work.08:43
neverbluejrib, you know a thing or two about it, I have a couple of questions08:43
dmglouishi08:43
Picineverblue: It was my impression that bash_history gets written to when you logout.  I'm not 100% sure on that though.08:43
SamyHow come Ubuntu for AMD64/x86-64 doesn't come with ccNUMA support in there by default?08:43
SleepingSlothstefg: everywhere I've looked (and I *have* look at a *lot* of forum posts etc, hasnt helped08:43
tehtechmanW_McL: i guessed as much... figued id ask anyway. thanks08:43
SamyDo you guys provide a package containing a kernel with this configuration?08:43
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neverbluePici, I was looking for the ppl who are sure :)08:43
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SleepingSlothstefg: I've now done the nvidia-glx too, and still got this mismatch....08:43
Picineverblue: okay ;)08:43
stefgSleepingSloth: the ubuntu c2c problem (clueless2clueless) :-\08:44
jribneverblue: nah, sorry, only know about some options in zsh regarding it08:44
swmiller6Oldpink: you still tring to install08:44
neverbluejrib, np :)08:44
W_McLtehtechman, sadly adobe doesn't pot much effort into flash for linux. there's not even a 64 bit version yet :(08:44
SamyDo you guys provide a package containing a kernel with NUMA support on?08:45
Newbie_DudeWhen I remove a program from my computer through the Synaptic Manager, does it leave little pieces of the program scattered all around my disk -- similar to Windows? >_<08:45
SamyDo you guys provide a package containing a kernel with NUMA support on?08:45
HEP85W_McL: you can install the 32 bit one using nspluginwrapper08:45
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dmglouis can anyone help? i just installed ubuntu in a dualboot with win2000 and now when i restart it says error loading operating system. i have to use the live cd to do anything. also i can get in the windows only if i use the super grub disk to boot into it but i have no luck with the ubuntu side of it08:45
extigyHi guys, how do i install amarok?08:45
SleepingSlothstefg: ....?08:45
W_McLHEP85, i know08:45
ladydoorNewbie_Dude: try using the "purge" option instead of plain remove. It won't remove anything from your home dir, but you can do that yourself.08:45
Newbie_Dudeextigy: go to add/remove and type amarok in serach :)08:45
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ladydoorextigy: sudo aptitude remove --purge amarok08:45
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Newbie_Dudeladydoor: so "purge picasa" ?08:46
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P-KIf I setup the way I want the system while in live cd and then install. Does it install my changes as well?08:46
jrib!software > extigy (see the private message from ubotu)08:46
maxagazHow to repair a root partition that has lost its /bin directory ?08:46
viden!runit08:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about runit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:46
dmglouisP-K: nope08:46
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dmglouisP-K: its a fresh start08:46
jribextigy: it's  sudo aptitude install amarok  to install it if you want to use aptitude, but see ubotu's message for other ways08:46
axisysthere is not suppose to have a inittab file on feisty?08:46
ladydoorNewbie_Dude: I suppose. There should be an option along those lines (possible "completely remove") if you right-click the package in synaptic, if I recall...08:46
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Newbie_Dudeladydoor: thanks :)08:46
P-Kdmglouis: awwe crap. Ok thanks.08:47
SamyHi. I ask again, where can I get a kernel with NUMA support built-in for AMD64 Ubuntu?08:47
ladydoorNewbie_Dude: np08:47
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dmglouisP-K: np :)08:47
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dmglouiscan anyone help? i just installed ubuntu in a dualboot with win2000 and now when i restart it says error loading operating system. i have to use the live cd to do anything. also i can get in the windows only if i use the super grub disk to boot into it but i have no luck with the ubuntu side of it08:47
SamyGod damn this channel.08:47
Samy:-P08:47
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extigyit's says aptitude isn't a command?08:48
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familiehow can i start gdesklets when ubuntu starts?08:48
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jribaxisys: not since the switch to upstart, but what do you want to do?08:48
ladydoorextigy: try apt-get then. aptitude is useful to have installed, but it's okay if you don't.08:48
extigyhow do i install it?08:48
MilitantPotatoI'm not understanding this java install08:48
ompaulSamy, post to the mailing list "sounder"08:48
videnjrib:  how would i find and remove runit from my startup scripts ?08:48
ladydoorextigy: sudo apt-get install aptitude08:48
MilitantPotatoit says it won't work with ubuntu amd64, is that true?08:48
familiehow can i start gdesklets when ubuntu starts?08:49
Newbie_DudeI'm uninstalling GAIM -- but it says I must also remove "nautilus-sendto" and "ubuntu-desktop" ... Sounds bad ???!08:49
jribviden: is it in /etc/init.d/ ?08:49
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jrib!ubuntu-desktop > Newbie_Dude (see the private message from ubotu)08:49
extigyladydoor: i'll try that08:49
W_McLMilitantPotato, what java install?08:49
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jrib!startup > familie (see the private message from ubotu)08:49
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jribMilitantPotato: sun does not provide a java plugin for amd6408:49
kibib2salut tlmd08:49
Newbie_Dudejrib: thanks man08:49
BeNdITonecesito ayuda para ubuntu08:49
videnjrib:  no there is no executable here called runit08:50
ompaul!es | BeNdITo08:50
ubotuBeNdITo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:50
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dmglouishas anyone had a problem with dual booting?08:50
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jrattner1Question: How do I set up a wiki on my webserver?08:50
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videnjrib: http://smarden.org/runit/08:50
jribviden: maybe you can chroot to /media/disk-1 and use APT to remove it08:50
videnjrib:  it was a compiled app08:50
MilitantPotatoThis isn't working: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin08:50
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stefgSleepingSloth: there's a package called nvidia-kernel-common as well ... try to apt-get --purge and install that, too.08:51
jribjrattner1: choose a wiki and install the package for it.  For example, python-moinmoin is in the repositories08:51
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familieHOW CAN I START PROGRAMS WITH MY X-SERVER? startup scripts, come on dudes08:51
ompauljrattner1, start with a terminal and do this >>>> apt-cache search wiki | more <<<< choose one from that list08:51
jribMilitantPotato: it doesn't exist for amd64, sun doesn't provide it08:51
jrattner1ompaul, thanks08:51
familieyou cant tell me you arent familiar with that!08:51
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MilitantPotatoLovely :)08:51
jrattner1jrib thanks08:51
jribfamilie: ubotu told you already, read your private messages08:51
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MilitantPotatocan I install a 32bit firefox?08:51
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familiejrib: aw sorry08:52
W_McLMilitantPotato, if you use a 64 bit system the java plugin won't work. it's not yet available08:52
dmglouishas anyone had a problem with GRUB?08:52
MilitantPotatoIs there a work-around in some form?08:52
dmglouismine doesn't work08:52
videnjrib:  sudo chroot comes back with permission denied08:52
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ompaul!grub > dmglouis08:52
jribMilitantPotato: the java wiki page should have some links on how to do that.  For me, I just use blackdown java for the plugin (it's old, but it does what I need)08:52
ViljasenMattiW_McL, and that, among many other reasons, I'm using 32-bit ubu on 64-bit laptop08:52
ompauldmglouis, check out the message from ubotu08:52
jribviden: you did 'sudo chroot /media/disk-1'?08:52
videnyes08:52
dmglouisompaul:thanks man08:52
quaaldoes anyone know about fsck and if it can cause data loss or if something missing after it is run can be recovered ?08:52
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SleepingSlothstefg: yeah, I've tried that (again) - no joy there either08:53
MilitantPotato!java08:53
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre08:53
angelicahow can i force to rediscover the network sending new arp requests?08:53
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MilitantPotato!javawiki08:53
ViljasenMattiuh, is not sun-java6-jre also available?08:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about javawiki - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:53
axisysjrib: i wanted to install daemontools08:54
jribaxisys: /etc/event.d takes the place of /etc/inittab .  Let me send you some info on upstart that might help08:54
jrib!upstart > axisys (see the private message from ubotu)08:54
ompaulquaal, it can, personally in 13 years of using it I have one bad memory, and the disk it turned out was shot anyway08:54
jribaxisys: why?08:54
HEP85MilitantPotato: what about ia32-sun-java6-bin?08:54
stefgSleepingSloth: so it seems that once you used the Nvidia*-sh, your system is hosed when trying to revert to the ubuntu-way08:54
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jribViljasenMatti: yes, it is in multiverse08:54
SleepingSlothstefg: yeah, it looks that way...08:54
axisysjrib: i want to install djbdns and start it with daemontools08:54
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eichiis there someone with unichrome graphic driver here?08:54
MilitantPotatoHEP, dunno man, what about it?08:54
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quaalompaul, hmm08:54
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SleepingSlothstefg: I am now looking at other, more industrial solutions.... I'll let you know how I get on ;/08:55
quaalso if I have data missing from a drive i just fsck'd, it is gone forever08:55
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quaalompaul, here is my fsck http://pastebin.ca/62648008:55
ompaulquaal, pretty much, you could try a program called "the coroners tool kit"08:55
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txopii think my grub problem is not with grub, but the boot activation of the partition08:55
jribaxisys: I'm not familiar with that, but there are a few packages (including libdjbdns1) that seem to be relevant08:55
ompaulquaal, actually it is a set of them08:55
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quaalompaul, it mentions removing the ext3 journal, if I rebuild the journal could it possibly come back ?08:55
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txopithanks to the people who helped me08:55
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juanpablonplug08:55
HEP85MilitantPotato: maybe it works better. but you need firefox 32 bit then, or not?08:56
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axisysjrib: yes08:56
axisysjrib: i need that for djbdns to work as well08:56
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MilitantPotatoThat's what the wiki says HEP08:56
MilitantPotatoI'm doing 32bit firefox now08:56
axisysjrib: it failed to installed since there is no /etc/inittab08:56
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ompaulquaal, wait til I see the paste08:56
axisysjrib: i tried apt-get install dametools-intaller08:56
quaalompaul, thanks08:56
jribaxisys: ah, can you pastebin the output you got?08:56
axisysand then ran that08:56
quaalgparted says the drive is now ext208:57
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axisysjrib: ok .. let me rerun it.. one sec08:57
quaallike it got demoted from ext3 to ext208:57
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Some_PersonWhere is Ubuntu wallpaper stored?08:57
quaalompaul, this one *** ext3 journal has been deleted - filesystem is now ext2 only ***08:57
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quaalSome_Person, can you not go into wallpapers/background and browse to it ?08:58
jribSome_Person: /usr/share/backgrounds/ I believe but you can put your own backgrouns whereever you want08:58
Some_Personi know you can08:58
Some_Personthank you08:58
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tarzeauDeep6: MAN! remember: 19:12:34 <Deep6> but now thanks to porn-get I can look like I am hacking scripts  when I am actually getting porn08:58
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PleegWatHi, I'm trying to connect to a pocketpc using bluetooth. I can find the device, but I think I need a driver that knows how to talk to it?08:59
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juano__hello all08:59
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Arsohey guys, if i burn the ubuntu image to a dvd , will it still work08:59
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Arsoor does it HAVE TO BE on a cd?08:59
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Arsocoz i tried burning twice on two different CDs and i keep getting some weird errors08:59
Arsotried dvd decrypter, poweriso and nero :s08:59
bobgillI'm trying to play a DVD in Totem but I get "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it." What do I need? I can play DVDs just fine in Xine, VLC, etc.08:59
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Adalpewhats the best IDE to edit in?08:59
gejris the nxclient supposed to be able to connect to the currently running X session?08:59
RiaalHow do I search in a "man page"?08:59
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bobgill(I just want to test Totem)09:00
Some_Personoh there are some hidden space wallpapers in there09:00
jribAdalpe: personal prefrence09:00
juano__im having trouble with nvidia settings in xorg.conf, i installed the nvidia binary package from nvidia.com, then i can only enter GUI changing nvidia for nv in xorg, how can i restore this to use the nvidia drivers properly ?09:00
gejrRiaal: type /09:00
jribbobgill: /09:00
taime1how do i install beryl in feisty with nvidia card?09:00
Riaalgejr, jrib, cheers09:00
gerrodid someone just say something to  me?09:00
jribbobgill: oops that was for Riaal :)09:00
juano__!nvidia09:00
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:00
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Arso:( can anyone help me09:00
gerroArso: I will save you!09:00
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Arsogerro yay09:00
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Arsogerro this always happes ;(09:00
Arsowhenever i do something important09:00
Arsoeverything stops working09:00
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Arso:@09:00
jrib!dvd > bobgill (see the private message from ubotu)09:01
videnjrib09:01
ompaulquaal, cd /lost+found09:01
SakeHey guys, I remember when I was installing ubuntu a while ago, there was an option for the desktop or the server setup. Is that still available?09:01
videnjrib:  how do i chroot that partition ?09:01
taime1are there four packages for beryl? or just three? i thought it was beryl, beryl-manager, emerald, emerald-themes...is that correct?09:01
videnit just wont work09:01
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DARKGuyhey, how can I run a program in a Windows box with RPC/RCP enabled? like psexec.exe does, entering with admin$ or something09:01
ompaulquaal, have a look in there09:01
gerroArso: what you mean by "stops working"09:01
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dyrneSake: with alternate install cd09:01
swajSake, it's two different images09:01
swajSake, just download the one you want09:01
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Arsogerro let me tell u my problem.09:01
gerroArso: can you give me the model of your computer or its specs if you custom built it09:01
Arsosure09:01
jribviden: you are typing 'sudo chroot /media/disk-1'?  what is the output?09:01
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Arsoits custom built yes, but ive been burning for a long time :s09:01
Arsoit always works fine.09:01
Arsointel p43.209:02
Arsointel d101gg09:02
jrib!enter | Arso09:02
ubotuArso: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:02
Sakeswaj: cool, if I want to run an in-house linux box with apache, file shares, etc.. Do I need the server install? it's only gonna be used by 4-5 people, not really for large loads. Should I just stick with the desktop version or really go for the server?09:02
axisysjrib: here is the output http://rafb.net/p/TXO8Dd22.html09:02
quaalompaul, the lost+found of the drive or /lost+found ?09:02
gerroArso: so the problem is with burning things?09:02
videnjrib:  ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo chroot /media/disk-1/09:02
videnchroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied09:02
SakeI also want to run a virtual machine with windows on it. Is that doable in the server version?09:02
Arsoyes.09:02
Arsoburning images. .iso09:02
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Arsosigh nevermind, i am not even in the right place.09:03
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juano__im having trouble with nvidia settings in xorg.conf, i installed the nvidia binary package from nvidia.com, then i can only enter GUI changing nvidia for nv in xorg, how can i restore this to use the nvidia drivers properly ?09:03
gerroArso: and its running a type of ubuntu? what version? 7.04?09:03
Arsoi just wanted to ask09:03
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jribviden: interesting... someone had this issue the other day and I never figured out what it was09:03
SakeI think ideally I'd like the desktop version without any of the applications installed, is that possible?09:03
ompaulquaal, the drives one09:03
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Arsocan i burn the ubuntu cd image on a dvd?09:03
gerroArso: don't matter go ahead09:03
Arsoi am on windows! trying to burn ubuntu09:03
gerroArso: yes dvd or cd it same thing09:03
DARKGuyhey, how can I run a program in a Windows box with RPC/RCP enabled? like psexec.exe does, entering with admin$ or something09:03
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quaalompaul, this is the ls of /media/usbdisk/lost+found: #11780099  #13467649  #18513964  #18513965  #23117827  #23117828  #851970  #851985  #85198909:03
swajSake, either version can actually run the servers you want.  The Server version basically is the desktop version without all the "eye candy"09:03
gerroArso: if you can't get it to burn right try using isorecorder09:03
bobgilljrib: I already have all the packages installed that it is instructing.. is it just Gstreamer is unable to playback DVDs?09:03
Arsook, good. coz i bought 3 new cds and the burning failed for all of them09:03
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Arsoi used dvddecrypter, and poweriso, and nero09:03
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Arsoall 3 didnt work09:03
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Arsolemme try isorecorder then.09:03
gerroArso: yeah don't use those they don't work for burning isos09:04
ompaul!burn | Arso09:04
ubotuArso: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto09:04
videnanyone else know .. if i could just chroot to that hdd then i could remove the issue09:04
jribbobgill: it should be able to play dvd's.  You've probably done this, but make sure you close totem and open it again... maybe eject the dvd and put it back in09:04
swajSake, if you want to run X and stuff, stick with the desktop.  If all you're going to do is server-related stuff and you don't really need anything fancy graphically, go with the server edition09:04
gerroArso: thunder storm here so might have power failure in a bit09:04
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swajSake, either version can run Apache, PHP, MySQL, etc. though09:04
dyrneSake: that is the server install bascially. its a stipped desktop install without the gui. if you install ubuntu-desktop afterwards youre going to get all the apps as its a big metapackage. you can install xserver-xorg and xfonts base and gdm and whatever windowmanger you want though to go minimal09:04
Arsowow my cd drive sounds like a ferrari now09:04
Arso999x09:04
berto-i am having trouble with atd on a machine with users in an LDAP directory.  the at job submits fine, i can see it in the queue, and when the time comes, the job becomes busy, but never executes.  any ideas?09:04
ompaulquaal, so each of those things is a file that it thinks it found - wget your own pastebin and use lynx to read the file you lmight get some clues as to what is what09:05
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gerrodyrne: how do you remove ubuntu-desktop though?09:05
bobgilljrib: nope.. just telling me I need additional plugins :(09:05
Sakedyrne: can I uninstall those apps from the desktop version or is it a bad idea (I have the desktop installed right now)09:05
gerrodyrne: it just removes the little shortcut link09:05
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kaare_hmm.. can i ask hardware related questions here ?09:05
Lacertaanyone know if there's a working version of r818x wlan driver yet? I'm suffering a system crash usually within minutes after doing some intensive networking. Especially with KTorrent.09:05
swajSake, if you wanted to, you could.  sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg would probably get rid of most of it09:05
gerrokaare: what is your question?09:05
dyrnegerro: id google for it the short answer is to remove a common dependancy like a lib but id google for a couple packages to remove to clean it up best09:06
cyberphaz!virtualbox09:06
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox09:06
cyberphaz!virtualizers09:06
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications09:06
quaalompaul, damn09:06
ompaulberto-, does it have a shell and whatever it wants - make it a "real"09:06
cyberphaz!vmware09:06
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers09:06
kaare_hmm.. i can't make my x1950 pro card working .. tried everything..09:06
ompaulberto-, script09:06
gerrodyrne: I had xubuntu but removed it to do icewm and not too sure everything gone and i still want to use thunar and mousepad they quite nice09:06
dyrneSake: you can. being debian based the package management is far less likely to mangle when you mess with base install. it should be fine to remove whatever you want09:06
jribbobgill: you have: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed?09:07
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astroview120mm# Appears as TONGTYED.09:07
ompaulquaal, it is recovery - it is not easy -09:07
MilitantPotatokaare09:07
Sakecyberphaz: sweet, thanks. Any of these tried and tested?09:07
kaare_yes09:07
Arsook, i officially hate samsung dvd burners.09:07
DARKGuyhey, how can I run a program in a Windows box with RPC/RCP enabled? like psexec.exe does, entering with admin$ or something09:07
MilitantPotatoworking how?09:07
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Lacerta!r818x09:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about r818x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:07
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gerrojrib bobgill: and ffmpg gstreamer thing?09:07
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kaare_hmm... opengl09:07
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Lacerta!r818009:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about r8180 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:07
mwe!msgthebot | Lacerta09:07
ubotuLacerta: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...09:07
MilitantPotatoDid you install the unsupported drivers?09:07
dyrnegerro: well xfce4 itself is pretty light. you still want the gtk stuff for apps so i think youre fine. we're talking like 20 or 30 MB maybe you could save i think09:07
ViljasenMattiArso, I hate Samsung DVD burners too. I sell those, and I also get them back after a while :/09:07
kaare_using mesa right now..09:07
Arsono wonder09:08
Arsothey suck.09:08
kaare_yes..09:08
bobgillyes I just tried to apt-get install and all of them are already the newest version installed09:08
Arsoand it was 50 dollars more than other burners09:08
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Arsoi thought its worth it09:08
jribaxisys: see if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/daemontools-installer/+bug/66615 helps09:08
ompaul!burn > Arso  (read the message from the bot)09:08
gerroDARKGuy: what are you using for the prompt? is it openssh on cygwin?09:08
Deep6tarzeau: you donky09:08
Deep6how you been?09:08
Arso!burn09:08
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto09:08
DARKGuygerro: errrrr no, I have pure Linux on my PC and I need to run a program in a Windows box which has no linux stuff installed, pure Windows on it.09:08
ompaulArso, the bot put that in a pm to you - you don't need to put that in the channel09:08
Arsothank you ompaul , but thats not what i am looking for09:08
RiaalAnyone remeber how to list "top" so that the max cpu usage is on top?09:08
Arsobrb restart.09:08
kaare_searched google so many times i can't count it anymore.. no one seems to the solution!09:09
HEP85MilitantPotato: java-gcj-compat-plugin is working for me on 64 bit firefox, but it's an old java version09:09
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jribRiaal: press F09:09
Riaaljrib, thanks09:09
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`Chello all09:09
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MilitantPotatoHEP85: I'm nearly done with 32 bit firefox+flash+java09:09
MilitantPotatousing 32bit firefox won't bother me much :)09:10
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PleegWatI'm trying to connect to a iPAQ pocket pc using a bluetooth connection. The dongle is working, and I'm seeing the device if I type "hcitool scan" in the terminal, but I don't seem to be able to connect09:10
quaalompaul, installing lynx09:10
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HEP85MilitantPotato: well, whatever you wish09:10
DARKGuyhey, how can I run a program in a Windows box with RPC/RCP enabled? like psexec.exe does, entering with admin$ or something09:10
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`CI just got a new laptop and i know ever one can tell me what pos os came on it . an im thinking about putting ubuntu on it09:10
MilitantPotatoHEP85: I'll give it a go next time I reformat :)09:10
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tarzeauDeep6: fine, what about you?09:10
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tarzeauDeep6: still in the us? what you doing? no more debian?09:10
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pilotlg747excuse me but how can i find a bug in a program if it just starts and stops in a 10th of a second? My chat-client (Pidgin) worked normally at least some minutes ago09:11
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`Cits a amd 64 . should i install the 64 bit os or the 32bt one ?09:11
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ompaulDARKGuy, consider Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client09:11
Jack_Sparrow`C:  Boot up the live cd and check it out09:11
jrib`C: unless you know exactly why you want amd64, you should be using 32bit09:11
`Ci did , but my wifi card will not work09:11
ompaul`C,  32 bit too much pain the other way09:11
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martiihi09:12
ompaul`C,  try it09:12
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martiiI'm looking for advice09:12
ompaul`C,  and have backups09:12
qwelegenHello People09:12
DARKGuyompaul: but will that run a command? I don't mean remote desktop RDP... I'm meaning a shell09:12
SkryptI'm having a partition issue. I have 10GB of space that's unallocated. How do I add that to my current linux partition?09:12
martiido you guys know any php based forum that is secure and fast?09:12
ompaulDARKGuy, no idea,09:12
martiiunline phpbb09:12
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martiiunlike09:12
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MilitantPotatoskrypt, is it right next to your linux partition?09:12
`Cof vista hell no why would any one keep that09:12
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rainmanhi, last night  I installed 7.04 so far so good, but the sound card didn't get dedected. any advise?09:12
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SkryptMilitantPotato:  yes.09:12
ViljasenMatti`C, what wifi card you have? it's likely not 32vs64 issue09:12
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DARKGuyompaul: it's ok, thanks for trying to help ^^09:12
Deep6tarzeau: I was never an american :D09:13
linux_user400354i need help. im trying to print to a network printer being shared by a vista computer from a ubuntu computer.09:13
SkryptIn gparted, there's no option to extend partition though.09:13
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MilitantPotatoGnome Partition Editor *MIGHT* work09:13
`Cits a ATHEROS09:13
tamaleHi everyone, X fails to start from the feisty installer disc (even in safe graphics mode) on my rather new HP core 2 duo laptop09:13
ViljasenMatti!atheros09:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about atheros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:13
MilitantPotatoah09:13
pilotlg747rainman: do you use also or oss09:13
SkryptMilitantPotato: gparted = GNOME Partition Editor.09:13
tarzeauDeep6: hehe i never knew :) where from?09:13
MilitantPotatoyea I read that after I typed that :)09:13
Skrypt:P09:13
HEP85Skrypt: probably you are just missing some file system tools09:13
MilitantPotatoIf you click your linux drive its not letting ya resize?09:13
quaalompaul, i lynx'd my pastebin.. what am i supposed to be looking for ?09:13
SkryptHEP85: what do I need to get?09:14
`CAtheros ar500709:14
ompaulquaal, where it trashes files and makes new ones09:14
dyrnetamale: pretty common. use alternate install cd09:14
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ViljasenMatti`C, sure you switched wifi on on your laptop front panel, or something?09:14
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rainmanpilotlg, not sure how to find out?09:14
kaare_if you compile your own kernel .. can that have anything to do with your graphic card ? .. if it can be detected by xorg or not ? ..09:14
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HEP85Skrypt:  I don't know exactly and because you will have to extend your system partition, which you can't do while you have it booted, I suggest using the gparted livecd09:14
`Clol09:14
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`Cyes i did like 5 times09:14
ompaulquaal, just to / to find the numbers of the blocks you are looking at09:14
ViljasenMatti`C, don't tell me... :)09:14
kaare_or is it just xorg who's controlling what..09:15
HEP85Skrypt: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php09:15
dyrnetamale: or of course alt-ctrl-f2 login then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and choose vesa as your driver09:15
tamaledyrne: Darn.  (I would use a much stronger word).  I don't have any spare CDRs with me.. why wouldn't the most widely used disc work? :[09:15
SkryptHEP85: I tried using the Ubuntu LiveCD with it's partition editor.09:15
dyrnetamale: then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart09:15
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qwelegenTo resize partition: Boot using Ubuntu Live CD and open GParted from there09:15
ViljasenMatti`C, is the output of 'iwconfig' pleasing?09:15
dyrnetamale: should be workable in livecd. i dont have much exp with it though09:15
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tamaledyrne: thanks, i'll try that09:15
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videnplease help me chroot my internal hdd using the live cd09:16
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profanephobiahey does anyone know if airsnort will work with bcm43xx09:16
ViljasenMatti`C, that is, is there any other text than no wireless extensions, or someting09:16
`Cwhat ?09:16
RiaalI don't get the top aplication, If I want to list MEM usage first, shall I press F then N ? =S09:16
plichhello09:16
HEP85Skrypt: maybe the package "ext2resize" is missing on the livecd09:16
`Cits not seeing the card at all . but im running the 64bit os09:16
analfabetai do rm /etc/apache2 -rf and try reinstall the package, but dir apache2 doesnt create and none files... what i do?09:16
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jribRiaal: Fn<enter>09:17
pilotlg747rainman: just look under system --> settings --> audio if esd is activated (wich should be) then deactivate it09:17
`Cand even in crapsta it worked like shit09:17
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plichdid someone use a belkin wireless usb adaptor, runing on ndiswrapper ?09:17
axisysjrib: let me give that a try09:17
Riaaljrib, is it normal for the MEM field to dissapear then?09:17
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`Cokay thanks ever one09:17
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HEP85Skrypt: well we can guess what is the missing part on the gparted included on the ubuntu livecd and load it from the internet, or take the gparted live cd which has everything needed09:18
jribRiaal: are you pressing captial F?09:18
plichdid someone use a belkin wireless usb adaptor, runing on ndiswrapper ?09:18
Riaaljrib, stupid me, thanks a lot09:18
profanephobiano answers?09:19
osmosisis there a print to PDF driver?09:19
jrib!please > profanephobia (see the private message from ubotu)09:19
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jribosmosis: yeah, cups-pdf09:19
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qwelegenAnyone know the link for 3D Graphic software Repository?09:19
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jribqwelegen: what are you looking for exactly?09:19
Borinhttp://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2007/07/17/GR2007071700070.gif09:20
ViljasenMatti`C, tried ndiswrapper?09:20
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jrib!offtopic | Borin09:20
ubotuBorin: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!09:20
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tamaledyrne: even vesa didn't work09:20
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tamaledyrne: what the heck09:20
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jendaQUIZ :) The Ubuntu Quiz is back! There's an extra special one in about an hour in #ubuntu-trivia. The prize is 5 Ubuntu case badges!09:20
videnCan anyone please help me chrooting my internal hdd from the live cd ?09:20
juano__hello all, im having trouble with nvidia drivers, i cant seem to install them correctly , i have to change back to nv in xorg.conf to get a GUI09:21
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lipocsihey anyone know that search engine where u get a search assistant?09:21
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qwelegenI need the source.list update?09:21
jribosmosis: make sure you read /usr/share/doc/cups-pdf/README.Debian to know how to use it though09:21
lipocsii know its unrelated but ehh09:21
dyrnetamale: does x crash or just a black screen?09:21
tamaledyrne: x crashes09:21
jribqwelegen: what do you mean by "3d Graphic software"?09:21
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tamaledyrne: i'm tryin to read the crash report to see if there is anything useful in here09:21
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juano__does anyone know how to properly install the nvidia drivers for 7.04 ??09:21
jriblinxeh: chacha.com...09:21
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jribargh he left09:22
videnCan anyone please help me chrooting my internal hdd from the live cd ?09:22
billyhello folks, trying to mount the floppy drive, but getting "/dev/fd0 invalid block device" error message! Any pointers? Using Edgy! Thanks09:22
osmosisjrib: will do, thanks.09:22
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dyrnetamale: this an intel or ati or nvidia or what?09:22
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jrib!nvidia > juano__ (see the private message from ubotu)09:22
axisysjrib: unfortunately that did not help http://rafb.net/p/k9xxCx39.html09:22
tamaledyrne: ati x1600 pro09:22
axisysjrib: this is how my file looks like http://rafb.net/p/UkUSxE82.html09:22
juano__jrib: yes ive been there09:22
bullgard4English help wanted: What is the English name of the Gnome menu item System > Administration > 'System Check' or what is the correct second word?09:22
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dyrnetamale: im sorry i have little exp with ati. either the open drivers or closed09:22
juano__jrib: but im having trouble09:22
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jribjuano__: are you using system -> administration -> restricted drivers manager09:22
Jowiaxisys, I had a similar problem while trying to remove a package recently.09:23
dyrnetamale: they are as a rule problematic. nvidia is as a rule flawless for regular use09:23
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tamaledyrne: are any drivers loaded for the live cd start??09:23
juano__jrib: Failed to run /usr/bin/restricted-manager as user root.09:23
axisysJowi: :-(09:23
juano__jrib: im getting that when i try to run that09:23
dyrne!ati | tamale09:23
ubotutamale: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:23
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Jowiaxisys, I have a solution (I hope) wait09:23
jribaxisys: well you might try just doing 'touch /etc/inittab'.  I would comment on that bug or create a new one too btw09:23
dyrnetamale: that might help. you can sudo apt-get install whatever package you need in livecd. sorry not more help09:23
linxehjrib: you what ?09:24
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jriblinxeh: wrong name, sorry09:24
linxehoh i see09:24
linxehsorry - tab complete after the guy quit :)09:24
videnCan anyone please help me chrooting my internal hdd from the live cd ?09:24
tamaledyrne: I'm nowhere near having networking or anything like that.. i'm just booting the install disc.. heh09:24
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plich_:/09:25
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jribjuano__: what do you get when you do 'gksu restricted-manager' in a terminal?09:25
dyrnetamale: hardline or wireless network09:25
dyrne?09:25
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plich_how to set up network manager to connect with wireless card.?09:25
juano__jrib: sec09:25
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juano__Failed to run restricted-manager as user root.09:26
juano__Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.09:26
LadyNikonplich_: do you know what drivers your card uses?09:26
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blargmanwhats a good amarok equivalent for gnome? or should i just install amarok on gnome :s09:26
videnCan anyone please help me chrooting my internal hdd from the live cd ?09:26
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jribjuano__: is this a default ubuntu desktop setup with no modifications?09:26
plich_LadyNikon: I've installed card09:26
plich_with ndiswrapper09:26
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plich_and it's working09:27
tamaledyrne: i'm on a hard line09:27
plich_but to connect i need to write in terminal09:27
plich_dhclient wlan009:27
juano__jrib: yes, i can try to reboot, maybe its cause i started x from console09:27
jribblargman: exaile claims to be it if you want to try it09:27
tamaledyrne: you mean to tell me i can install ATI drivers before ever even booting?09:27
juano__jrib: brb09:27
plich_so I want to doo it with gui..09:27
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jrib!enter | plich_09:27
ubotuplich_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:27
blargmanjrib claims? :D09:27
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LadyNikonplich_: I never used ndiswrapper sorry09:28
blargmani'll try it, amarok is nice tho09:28
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blargmanjrib - u use amarok or neither09:28
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windows-noobi have a problem - i installed the proprietary nvidia driver and ubuntu display that it is activated but not used - what should i do?09:28
quaalompaul, so if i find something like #i_blocks_hi for inode 2981889 (/motorcyclediaries) is 34319, should be zero.#Clear<y>? yes09:28
quaalthen it means its gone ?09:28
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jribblargman: I stick to mpd and sonata as the frontend09:28
solveaiI'm running a ssh server. How do I limit which users can login via ssh?09:29
jribblargman: if you want something like amarok you won't like it :)09:29
solveaii.e. I want userA to be able to login via ssh; but userB to NOT be able to login via ssh09:29
plich_LadyNikon: But U know card is working preety well, but I don't know how to connect from GUI09:29
ompaulquaal, yah, unless you got a file system guru handy and they are few and far between09:29
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MilitantPotatowhats the terminal command to close a non responding app?09:29
tamalekill09:29
quaalompaul, DAMN09:29
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MilitantPotatoin ubuntu 7.0409:29
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quaalwtf i thought fsck wasnt supposed to remove stuff09:29
LadyNikonplich_: typing in terminal isnt so bad :p .. maybe check a forum to see if there is a way to use it in GUI09:30
ompaulquaal, fsck -y is fix stuff09:30
quaali was supposed to hit N there then09:30
juano__jrib: ok that fixed09:30
berto-i am having trouble with atd on a machine with users in an LDAP directory.  the at job submits fine, i can see it in the queue, and when the time comes, the job becomes busy, but never executes.  any ideas?09:30
juano__jrib: that was because i executed startx from TTY109:30
HEP85MilitantPotato: killall does also work09:30
juano__jrb: rebooted now its ok09:30
quaalompaul, what is just fsck then09:30
ompaulquaal, file system check - tells you how it is doing09:30
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MilitantPotatokillall?09:30
Jowiaxisys, I can't find the link... If I remember correctly you can install sysvinit or maybe just create an inittab manually...09:30
plich_LadyNikon: For me it isn't problem, but this is laptop for my mom, and she is a noobie...09:30
jribsolveai: you can use allowuser,denyuser,allowgroup,denygroup in your config.  Try googling for ssh docs with those terms for more info09:31
juano__jrib: im having trouble with the nvidia drivers09:31
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blargmanjrib - i'd like something like Urge, to be honest09:31
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blargmani wonder if its possible to run that in wine hrmm09:31
ompaulquaal, if you have problems at that stage you need to work out if you want a bitwise copy of the disk or if you want to back up the files09:31
plich_juano__: what card u have ?09:31
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juano__jrib: it sais NOT IN USE in Restricted drivers09:31
bullgard4How to use the program Tracker via Nautilus? I do not understand the section 'Tracker And Nautilus Search' in /usr/share/doc/tracker-search-tool/README.gz.09:31
juano__plich_ nvidia geforce x5500 256 MB09:31
jribjuano__: there should be a checkbox to enable it?09:32
juano__jrib: yes09:32
berto-solveai: also look into /etc/security/access.conf and make sure you have the pam_access.so modue enabled.09:32
HEP85MilitantPotato: sudo killall <programname>09:32
plich_juano__: you instal nvidia-driver ? or nvidia-legaly-driver09:32
MilitantPotatoHEP85: Thanks again :)09:32
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MilitantPotatois there a command to show programs loaded?09:32
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juano__plich_ i installed the nvidia binary from nvidia.com09:32
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DaTickAny Samba stars here?  Was working fine but now can't see the Windows domain.  I re-installed Samba with no luck.  Windows machines can see Ubuntu and access shares no problem.  Any ideas?09:33
plich_juano__: I know, but there are two diffrent drivers :)09:33
juano__plich_  glxgears09:33
juano__Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:33
juano__Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual09:33
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HEP85MilitantPotato: ps09:33
plich_juano__:  can you send mi yout xorg.conf on my email?09:33
HEP85MilitantPotato: or better: ps aux09:33
juano__plich_ ill pastebin sec09:33
bullgard4DaTick: Start with pinging it.09:34
juano__!paste09:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:34
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MilitantPotatops aux did it, what does aux mean?09:34
anurag_mishraIs there a application in Linux that can search in my windows network(Guess that is connected by samba) ??? Equivalent windows alternative are ShareScan , etc09:34
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plich_juano__: you install driver with apt-get ? or you download driver from nvidia ?09:34
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Jowiaxisys, http://fxp0.org.ua/2006/oct/28/upstart-and-daemontools-ubuntu-edgy-eft/ (feisty link is also in there)09:35
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juano__plich_ download from nvidia09:35
juano__plich_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30469/09:35
DaTickbullgard4: pings fine and I can access VNC servers via IP address with no problem.  Just can't explore the network09:35
MilitantPotatoIs there a way to stop ps aux from appending file names to the terminal size?09:35
juano__plich_: i should of apt i guess lol09:35
jribsolveai: ah, found the page I was looking for: http://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/adminguide/32/Restricting_User_Logins.html09:35
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HEP85MilitantPotato: a = all users, x = not only terminal09:36
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juano__plich_ if i change Driver nv to nvidia all hell brakes loose09:36
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plich_juano__: what error U have ?09:36
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crackintoshis the name of the apache user on ubuntu named '09:36
MilitantPotatoah i typed ps /? and it's listing it all09:36
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crackintoshis the name of the apache user on ubuntu named 'apache' ?09:36
juano__plich_: cant start x, sais something really weird though09:37
crackintoshi remember seeing it named something else.09:37
juano__plich_: it seems to be some sort of conflict09:37
MajorPaynecrackintosh: apache2, or maybe httpd?09:37
blargmanIs there anything like Urge/Napster for ubuntu? perhaps something that can be emulated? :s09:37
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SanctusoriumHi all, I am having a problem with pidgin.  When I start it up, it loads the buddy list, then closes it.  I tried to run it in the terminal but it does the same thing and I get this: "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"09:37
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SanctusoriumWhat can I do to fix this?09:37
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stuart-would wine work for nokia pc suite?09:37
Some_Personi have an hp scanjet 397009:37
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jillyHey, does anyone know why this is happening, and what I can do to fix it? http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/2089/screenshotol2.png09:38
MilitantPotatoI have firestarter loading at boot, is there any way to make it open w/o prompting for the password? Ubuntu 7.0409:38
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Some_Personand xsane only likes it when i run xsane from sudo/root09:38
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jribSanctusorium: tried renaming ~/.pidgin or whatever it uses?09:38
juano__plich_: what should i do ? get rid of this binary package or something ?09:38
Some_Personis there anything i can do?09:38
plich_juano__: do like this. stop your gdm, (/etc/init.d/gdm stop), change nv to nvidia, and as a user type startx and show what x server print (the line starting by (EE))and tell me what is this :)09:38
Sanctusoriumjrib: No, how would I do so?09:38
jribsolveai: what happens when you do it as a user?09:38
juano__plich_ ok sec09:38
Some_Personi dont want to do sudo xsane every time i want to scan sometyhing09:38
jribSome_Person: what happens when you do it as a user?09:38
Some_Personerror09:38
jribSome_Person: pastebin?09:39
anurag_mishrajilly: Using Compiz, etc? ( YOur problem is all minimize button etcr gune , right? )09:39
jribSanctusorium: mv ~/.pidgin ~/.pidgin.backup   but I have not used pidgin so I'm not sure that is what it is called09:39
plich_did someone have a wireless card supported by ndiswrapper ?09:39
jitenshah78hello09:39
Some_Personjrib: http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1620/screenshotdn3.png09:39
Sakeis a webdav server hard to set up in ubuntu?09:40
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tarzeauMY BANDWITH! MY BANDWITH!09:40
jrib!traffic09:40
crackintoshruh roh!09:40
Jerome_Gotta love dickheads.09:40
lynxduckouch09:40
Sanctusoriumugh09:40
SanctusoriumOh boy09:41
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ubotuNOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!09:41
dwrzwhat was that?09:41
zaggynlflooding09:41
SanctusoriumWhat was that spam?09:41
tarzeaudwrz: bandwith waste09:41
Some_Personan attempt to use up the bandwidth of freenode09:41
Some_Personjrib: http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1620/screenshotdn3.png09:41
tarzeauSanctusorium: more like a password generator09:41
zaggynlfun people with botnets -.-09:41
Saketarzeau: what'd he waste? like 200k? Is that supposed to be offensive?09:41
tarzeauSanctusorium: or would you buy a product called "odrxexubkp"09:41
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Jerome_I'd buy that damn product09:41
dwrzhaha09:41
tarzeauSake: i was j/k :)09:41
SanctusoriumXD09:41
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Jerome_Its good advertisement ;)09:41
tarzeauJerome_: hehe09:41
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bullgard4DaTick: I have no experience with VNC. But independent of VNC I would follow an Ubuntu Wiki Samba article which describes a Samba troubleshooting process.09:42
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Saketarzeau: haha, whatever, that was lame... I don't get the point09:42
Jerome_I used to have to deal with that bull all the time when I ran my old network09:42
Jerome_want nothing to do with it anymore.09:42
Jerome_heh.09:42
juano__OK it sais fail to loag /usr/lib/libglx.so09:42
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jribSome_Person: I'm on 56k, copying the text's error is a lot better for me :)09:42
plich_juano__: And ?09:42
Some_Personjrib: its not copyable09:42
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dwrzI have an ATI Mobility Radeon X600. A bit confused as to which driver gives the best performance. I'm currently getting ~1600FPS in glxgears... Beryl runs ok but Google Earth is slow as hell. Should I install the driver in aptitude or the one in restricted drivers? or keep this one?09:42
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juano__plich_:  OK it sais fail to loag /usr/lib/libglx.so09:42
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El_Burrois there a #borkedgrub?09:43
juano__plich_: it sais fail to load kernel modules also09:43
bullgard4DaTick: 1. Wikipedia 2007-06: "mDNS ist ein Protokoll, um Namen und IP-Adressen ohne DNS-Server zu bersetzen, sowie ein Mechanismus zum automatischen Verffentlichen und Finden von Netzdiensten. mDNS ist nichts anderes als eine Beschreibung, wie Clients verfahren mssen, wenn sie DNS-Anfragen an Multicast-Adressen senden, und wie eine Gruppe an Rechnern damit umgeht, sodass die Anfrage richtig und ohne erhhte Last auf dem Netzwerk be09:43
zaggynllol09:43
plich_ok try to install09:43
jribSome_Person: what is the output of 'groups'?09:43
Some_Personjrib: sam adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin fuse09:43
juano__plich_: install what ?09:43
plich_juano__: try toinstall nvidia-driver by apt-get09:43
stuart-btw does wine work with ubuntu09:44
juano__sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver ?09:44
plich_juano__: apt-get install nvidia-driver09:44
plich_juano__: apt-get install nvidia-driver09:44
juano__plich_: ok sec09:44
Some_Personjrib: i think it has to do with the backend, i got it from sourceforge09:44
plich_did someone have a wireless card supported by ndiswrapper ??09:44
juano__plich_: E: Couldn't find package nvidia-driver09:44
juano__E: Couldn't find package nvidia-driver09:44
plich_juano__: apt-get install nvidia-drivers maybe ?09:45
jribjuano__: why aren't you using the restricted manager?09:45
juano__plich_: nope, same thing09:45
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juano__jrib: dunno ?09:45
dogwaterHas anyone else been having huge problems doing net-installs with ubuntu?09:46
ptn107juano__: nvidia-glx      or     nvidia-glx-new09:46
dogwaterevery mirror has a missing file or something wrong with it09:46
jribjuano__: did you try clicking on the checkbox that lets you enable the nvidia drivers?09:46
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juano__jrib: if i do that, it changes xorg.conf to nvidia and it doesnt work09:46
bullgard4DaTick: (Irssi played havoc.) I recommend  http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Samba_Client and http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Samba_Server or their English equivalents.09:46
juano__jrib: right ?09:46
jribSome_Person: yeah, I don't know much about it.  Maybe you can mention the software and ask the channel again with a link to the error09:46
plich_juano__: use a add/remove software from menu "Applications" to instal nvidia binary driver09:46
HEP85stuart-: of course wine works09:46
jribjuano__: so you've tried it then?09:47
juano__jrib: yes09:47
juano__jrib: and why the heck cant i access nothing now09:47
Some_Personone question, where the heck is the device manager?09:47
juano__jrib: i try opening something and there is this cant load as root09:47
juano__jrib: error09:48
JowiSome_Person, "hal-device-manager" in a terminal will bring it up.09:48
jribjuano__: do it in a terminal09:48
crackintoshwhat is the apache user on ubuntu?09:48
crackintoshis it www-data?09:48
jribcrackintosh: yeah09:48
Some_Personjowi: thank you09:48
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RiaalAnyone know how I can list all processes in a tree structure?09:48
JowiSome_Person, there should be an icon somewhere in the taskbar but I don't use gnome/kde so I don't remember where it is...09:49
JowiRiaal, "pstree"09:49
crackintoshso if I did chown -R www-data:www-data SugarCRM it would give ownership to that directory?09:49
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juano__jrib: ok i got in09:49
jribcrackintosh: it would, yes09:49
RiaalJowi, thanks09:49
juano__jrib: it sais IN USE now09:49
juano__jrib: but the Enabled box is OFF09:50
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dwrzI have an ATI Mobility Radeon X600. A bit confused as to which driver gives the best performance. I'm currently getting ~1600FPS in glxgears... Beryl runs ok but Google Earth is slow as hell. Should I install the driver in aptitude or the one in restricted drivers? or keep this one?09:50
dwrzanyone?09:50
jribjuano__: well as long as it is working, you should be ok.  Just check that your xorg.conf confirms that09:50
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juano__jrib: Driver         "nv"09:51
dwrzI just want to know if I should use aptitude or restricted or if it is not worth the risk?09:51
crackintoshcould I ask a favor of someone, my /var/www/ directory shows that it is owned by root:root, which is very bad, I cant remember if I set this, can someone give me an ls -alF of their /var/www/ directory to see if their files have similar permissions?09:51
juano__jrib: is that supposed to be right ? i thought the best drivers were nvidia09:51
jrib!nvidia > juano__ (see the private message from ubotu)09:51
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ladydoordwrz: I believe that what you're talking about are two different interfaces to the same thing.09:51
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Some_Personjrib: the ubuntu forums fixed my problem, thank you for trying to help though09:51
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jribjuano__: there should be some instructions on the wiki that the bot just linked you to on how to enable it.  basically, install nvidia-glx and run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig'09:52
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jribSome_Person: was it a simple fix out of curiousity?09:52
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Some_Personjrib: yes, it was a permissions problem09:52
jribjuano__: there should be some instructions on the wiki that the bot just linked you to on how to enable it.  basically, install nvidia-glx and run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig enable' (note the typo before)09:52
juano__jrib: ive tried that09:52
Jowicrackintosh, my /var/www is owned by www-data:www-data09:52
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jribjuano__: and what happens?09:53
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crackintoshJowi: thank you.09:53
juano__jrib: just changes driver to nvidia and then it doesnt start x09:53
SyncroUmmm, could someone tell me how to open up .run files09:53
jribSyncro: what is the .run file for?09:53
Sakeis a webdav server hard to set up in ubuntu?09:53
Syncroenemy territory09:53
bullgard4How to use the program Tracker via Nautilus? I do not understand the section 'Tracker And Nautilus Search' in /usr/share/doc/tracker-search-tool/README.gz.09:53
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dyrneSyncro: typically either sh file.run or bash file.run if sh/dash gives ya trouble09:53
Sakeis it wise even? Are there better options?09:53
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Syncrooh09:53
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SyncroLemme check09:53
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Some_Personjrib: however, i still get 3 "permission denied" messages on exit09:53
TheNo1Yeti_WorkHi, I'm trying to get an mp3 streaming program to work and I can get them to view my files, the page to come up, etc but it refuses to play my mp3s.  Keeps having trouble syncing to the host and just won't play.  Do I need to have a special port or something else setup?09:53
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Syncrowell i dont know if it is BASH or the other but ill put up the full name09:54
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plich_did someone have a wireless card supported by ndiswrapper ??09:54
Syncroet-linux-2.60.x86.run09:54
mindframe_my video card is broken and im trying to boot without video.  when i try to boot into recovery mode, which i assume is single user mode, it just hangs immediately after i tell grub to boot.09:54
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jribSyncro: usually, you just make it executable (chmod +x FILE) and then execute the file (./FILE)09:54
Syncrochmod?09:55
dyrneSyncro: or just right click on in and in properties make it executable then just doubleclick to run i think09:55
jribSyncro: yep, changes permissions09:55
bullgard4English help wanted: What is the English name of the Gnome menu item System > Administration > 'System Check', 'System Supervision' or what is the proper third word?09:55
Syncrohahahaha thanks09:55
Jowimindframe_, try turning off framebuffer in BIOS/CMOS09:55
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SyncroWow that was easy09:55
SyncroThank you guys09:55
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SanctusoriumUgh, I can't figure out what is wrong with pidgin.  I'm just going to go back to Gaim =b09:55
SyncroThank you guys09:55
Jowimindframe_, or you don't have a videocard installed at all?09:55
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mindframe_well i do but its definitely messed up.  im about to remove it and rma it.  id still like to have it as a fileserver, which shouldnt require video at all.09:56
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mindframe_Jowi, is there a way to set the runlevel with grub?09:57
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juano__jrib: ok, so no luck yet09:57
danyahello ?09:57
juano__jrib: still disabled driver, nvidia-glx sais its installed09:57
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juano__jrib: after i run nvidia-xconfig i cant start x, have to change back to nv to start09:57
alecwhI just barely got my Dell Lapotp in the mail, and I just booted up with Ubuntu live cd, and while it was loading, I got this: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" and then that's it. What's wrong?09:57
guixubuntu is being run in plces you'd never imagine09:58
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juano__jrib: i disabled nv in restricted modules by the way09:58
danyaI'm on a 64-bit ubuntu feisty .. I"m having problems installing wine .. can someone help me plz ?09:58
jribjuano__: what card do you have?09:58
jrib!wine > danya (see the private message from ubotu)09:58
juano__jrib: Nvidia geforce x5500 256 MB09:58
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danyajrib : thank u :)09:58
jribjuano__: grab /var/log/Xorg.0.log after X fails to starts and pastebin it09:58
jribdJMarissa-Greece: hi09:58
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Jowimindframe_, I think you can just edit grub at the menu (with the "e" key) and set "1" at the end for runlevel 1 aso... not sure though09:59
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mindframe_i tried that last night, no go :(09:59
dJMarissa-Greecejrib hi :)09:59
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iulianhi, how can I transfer files from my pc to a ftp server using the shell10:00
iulian?10:00
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stuart-if i use xubuntu and wanna use some programs like kmobiletool, would it be possible10:00
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mindframe_yes stuart-10:00
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stuart-mindframe_: even if it says designed for KDE?10:00
guixDANYA10:00
juano__jrib: after it fails i can cat that file and paste it you mean ?10:00
jribdJMarissa-Greece: please don't use that here, try to keep the discussion related to ubuntu support10:00
Jowimindframe_, rescue/failsafe should be level 1 anyway. see if you can de-activate some features in your CMOS/BIOS. like the framebuffer, power management etc10:00
mindframe_yes, it will use libs from kde or gnome10:00
jribjuano__: yeah, copy it somewhere safe then get back into X and paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:01
guixDANYA10:01
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alecwh I just barely got my Dell Lapotp in the mail, and I just booted up with Ubuntu live cd, and while it was loading, I got this: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" and then that's it. What's wrong?10:01
mindframe_ill try that out.  thanks Jowi.10:01
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stuart-does xubuntu include kde/gnome libs10:01
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fartocI need a /dev/sda7. I tried MAKEDEV sda7 and it says don't know how to do that, Any  help ?10:01
cybrhumanHi, may I have some help to activate the "shipped" graphics driver in feisty? (i installed and activated a new driver and I cant make it work)10:02
mindframe_stuart-, some gnome libs by default.  if you apt-get install kmobiletools you'll get everything you need.10:02
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RiaalWhat is ubuntus opposite of KDE process manager?10:02
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osmosisjrib: I setup cups-pdf , but the pdf it generates are empty blank.10:02
stuart-oh, alright. thanks.10:02
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ladydoorstuart-: Not by default, but you can install them using apt.10:03
stuart-but i heard some phones could actually work off the bat with feisty yeah? without needing any software10:03
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jribosmosis: you made sure to use PostScriptColor as the driver?10:03
stuart-alright. will stick to apt once i'm done downloading xubuntu.10:03
ladydooriulian: Has anyone helped you yet?10:03
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iulianno :)10:03
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RiaalHow do I start the  process manager from the command line?10:04
guixI tried to install google earth on ubuntu feisty fawn but when i run it, it logs me out10:04
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ladydooriulian: Okay, what FTP program are you using? SFTP? FTP? Other?10:04
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iulianladydoor, ftp10:04
GodSyn_help : attempting to use an old TV (ntsc) as a monitor, and I can't seem to get the refresh rate right... any suggestions?10:04
juano__jrib: ok pastebinning for u10:04
RiaalHow do I start the  process manager from the command line? Anyone?10:04
alecwhI just got my laptop in the mail today, and I'm trying to install Ubuntu on it. I put in the Live CD, clicked "Start or Install Ubuntu", and then as it was loading, it stopped, and gave me a message: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". I can type commands in, too. What do I do?10:05
SlimeyPeteGodSyn_: ntsc TVs refresh at 60hz, iirc10:05
guixHELP: I tried to install google earth on ubuntu feisty fawn but when i run it, it logs me out10:05
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SlimeyPeteGodSyn_: 60hz interlaced, that is10:05
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jribjuano__: system -> administration -> system monitor  is the menu item.  right click on the ubuntu icon menu and edit menu to figure out the command for it10:05
ishyn?10:05
mindframe_guix, try installing with automatix10:05
ramensammichhi10:05
guixyes10:05
jribRiaal: system -> administration -> system monitor  is the menu item.  right click on the ubuntu icon menu and edit menu to figure out the command for it10:05
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guixit was I did10:05
jribtime for a break methinks10:05
alecwh!automatix10:05
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe10:05
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ramensammichassuming that I login remotely via ssh and start a wget xxxx10:05
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GodSyn_SlimeyPete: tried that, any clue what I should have in xorg? default monitor is horiz:30-50 vert 30 8debth, 640x48010:05
ramensammichand cloce the session10:06
ladydooriulian: I don't mean this in a rude way, but the best first step is always to read the manual. So do "man ftp"10:06
GodSyn_err vert 6010:06
plich_did someone have a wireless card supported by ndiswrapper ??10:06
ramensammichhow do I get back to it ocne I login again?10:06
JowiRiaal, which process manager? you can use "top", "htop" (if you have it installed) or "gnome-system-monitor" if you run gnome.10:06
MikeB-afternoon all10:06
ramensammichassmunign that it hasn't finished10:06
pacolocoI need a msn that I can chat, cam and microphone10:06
ishynevening10:06
iulianladydoor, thanks, I'll have a look.10:06
guixI used automatix210:06
ladydooriulian: meanwhile, go ahead and try to get connected by typing ftp host.whatever10:06
GodSyn_how do i specify interlaced/10:06
juano__jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30480/10:06
leon_pegg_any one here use seamlessRDP10:06
SlimeyPeteGodSyn_: looks alright to me, but I'm no expert (for a start, I come from the land of PAL ;)10:06
ladydooriulian: You might be able to do user@host10:06
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juano__jrib: there ya go, startx with nvidia in xorg.conf10:06
GodSyn_ahh, see, thats easy :) :p10:06
GodSyn_bbl10:07
ladydooriulian: I'd be glad to give you random tips if you need more10:07
iulianladydoor, I can connect bu I don't know how to transfer a file from /home/user/file to ftp path10:07
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scorp123hi all10:07
jribjuano__: k, put xorg.conf up there too10:07
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osmosisjrib: you were right. works now.10:07
conorkirkpatrick!mp310:07
elmo40WinAmp not running10:07
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ladydooriulian: okay, once connected typing help will get you a list of commands. typing "help cp" (or whatever) will give you help on that command...let me see here...10:07
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guixdo you think it could be a hardware problem?10:08
juano__jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30481/10:08
ladydooriulian: try this: put local-file-name remote-file-name10:08
NemesisDis it possible to make full drive image backups of a windows computer from an ubuntu computer without having to set the entire drive as a share in windows?10:08
juano__jrib: there is xorg.conf as well10:08
guixmaybe my video card?10:08
cripplerhi all10:08
ladydooriulian: (without the newline)10:08
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xulianzhihello everyone10:09
radixis there an analog of update-manager for doing an upgrade from feisty->gutsy on the console?10:09
juano__jrib: im using 2.6.20-16-generic kernel btw10:09
guixHELP: I tried to install google earth on ubuntu feisty fawn but when i run it, it logs me out, I tried using automatix210:09
ramensammichapt-get distro upgrade10:09
ramensammichor soething liek that10:09
ramensammichgoogle it10:09
ramensammichNEMESISD10:09
radixramensammich: I assume you mean "dist-upgrade"10:09
NemesisDyessir10:09
Creedanyone done a network install of ubuntu/have a better guide than what is on the wiki? using a win2k3 server to install from10:09
radixramensammich: which isn't really an analog of update-manager10:09
jribjuano__: do you have the one with nvidia as the driver?10:09
ramensammichm bad10:09
ladydooriulian: and if you need to change the directory on your computer (not the server), try lcd newdir10:10
ramensammichanalog?10:10
ladydooriulian: Did that help?10:10
juano__jrib: sorry ?10:10
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juano__jrib: what do you mean10:10
ramensammichI thouht that ean  clio10:10
radixramensammich: it's not similar; it just does the "dumb" upgrade of packages10:10
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Archoniam/ns IDENTIFY racing10:10
radixupdate-manager does much more10:10
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Archoniamwoops lol10:10
ramensammichnah10:10
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Archoniamuhoh10:10
ramensammichaptitude10:10
Jack_Sparrowguix: Starting with a fresh install....10:10
ramensammichdoes a lot more than apt-get10:10
ramensammichit checks dependencis etc10:10
alecwhI just got my laptop in the mail today, and I'm trying to install Ubuntu on it. I put in the Live CD, clicked "Start or Install Ubuntu", and then as it was loading, it stopped, and gave me a message: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". I can type commands in, too. What do I do?10:10
iulianladydoor, scuse me for the delay; yes, put was exactly what I needed10:10
radixramensammich: I didn't compare it to apt-get.10:10
iulianladydoor, thank you10:11
ramensammichoh10:11
ladydooriulian: Sweet.10:11
ramensammichNEm10:11
NemesisDramensammich, did you use my name on accident?10:11
ladydooriulian: No problem.10:11
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juano__jrib:10:11
ramensammichuses windows backup10:11
jribjuano__: the xorg.conf you posted is using the nv driver10:11
ramensammichto create backups10:11
jrib!enter | ramensammich10:11
uboturamensammich: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:11
ramensammichand create a share in the ubuntu machine10:11
radixramensammich: update-manager does a bunch of Ubuntu-specific things to make sure it upgrades to a release of Ubuntu in the correct way.10:11
ramensammichk10:11
radixAnyway, I guess there isn't one...10:11
juano__jrib: i know, its because i had to change it to make it enter here10:11
guixOK, I'LL TRY10:11
juano__jrib: its the same but with nvidia instead of nv10:11
jrib!upgrade > radix (see the private message from ubotu)10:12
ramensammichanyways, create a backup using the windwos backup tool., and have it save to a shared resource on the ubuntu drive10:12
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radixthanks, jrib.10:12
juano__jrib: just picture it with nvidia instead of nv, only that line changed10:12
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jribradix: I *think* that pages mentions how to use it on a server install which would need to be on the console10:12
radixjrib: er, I didn't get one.10:12
radixoh, it took a while.10:12
Cyber_Stalker!intel10:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:12
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radixohh, "do-release-upgrade".10:13
juano__jrib: mmm what could it be10:13
jribjuano__: k, well in the original log you pasted, search for (EE), that's all the errors.  That first one looks strange.  I'm going to google a bit10:13
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ArchoniamWell, anyway. i'm having some type of bug. I can't run the packages "swftools" and "gimpshop" for some reason. YES, I HAVE CHECKED APTITUDE. Also, it just says it's not there. Interesting, riiiight? PLEEEEASE help me, i really dont feel like repeating my question!!10:13
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NemesisDramensammich, yes thats what im trying to achieve, to create a backup of a windows machine's drive on an ubuntu machine that is connected via a crossover cable10:14
jribArchoniam: those pacakges don't exist on ubuntu10:14
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ramensammichyeah10:14
ramensammichXP?10:14
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Archoniamjrib: What the heck? They exist on Debian, at least. And Debian packages run on ubuntu. They are on my aptitude.10:15
unix4me!info denemo10:15
ubotudenemo: A gtk+ frontend to GNU Lilypond. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 963 kB, installed size 2796 kB10:15
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alecwhI just got my laptop in the mail today, and I'm trying to install Ubuntu on it. I put in the Live CD, clicked "Start or Install Ubuntu", and then as it was loading, it stopped, and gave me a message: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". I can type commands in, too. What do I do? (Vista is currently on the machine, I booted up and then restarted with disc)10:15
radixthanks guys.10:15
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ladydoorArchoniam: Ubuntu is debian-based, but they're not identical. You could perhaps try downloading the .deb file from debian and installing it manually with dpkg.10:15
jribArchoniam: afaict, no packages by that name exist10:15
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unix4mehow do I add another clef in denemo10:16
Jack_SparrowArchoniam: have you checked your sources list10:16
Archoniamladydoor: Ooookay....10:16
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Cyber_Stalkerwhere is the xorg.conf?10:16
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jribCyber_Stalker: /etc/X11/10:16
Cyber_Stalkerand is it ok to manually edit and tweek it?10:16
scorp123Cyber_Stalker: /etc/X11/10:16
ArchoniamJack_Sparrow: Sources list? You mean software sources, right?10:16
jribCyber_Stalker: yes, make a backup and know how to restore it10:16
nokorI can't print with my HP OfficeJet G55 printer, any help?10:16
ramensammichNEMESIS: if XP Pro, jsut gp to start, programs acessories, backup and make whatever backup you want10:16
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Jack_SparrowArchoniam: yes10:16
scorp123Cyber_Stalker: you better make a backup of it first ...10:17
jribjuano__: poke around /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so and see if anything is strange10:17
Archoniamjrib: Look 'em up at http://packages.debian.com/ .10:17
ramensammichon hte ubuntu box jsut use samba to createa shared folder...then from the windows box moutn it as a network drive and save directly to it10:17
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cybrhumanHow do I reenable the default graphics drivers in Feisty? (from commandline... since my gui doesn't work)10:17
Archoniamjrib: Well, at least swftools is there.10:17
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alecwhI just got my laptop in the mail today, and I'm trying to install Ubuntu on it. I put in the Live CD, clicked "Start or Install Ubuntu", and then as it was loading, it stopped, and gave me a message: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". I can type commands in, too. What do I do? I'm running the memory test right now, but do I have to do something in the BIOS?10:18
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juano__jrib: the file is in there10:18
ramensammichsimpel question: if I leave my work staton and log back in ( CLI) how do I resume what I was doing10:18
thorndikeIs anyone aware of where I can download the older megaraid driver?  I need to move some servers off of 5.04 and up to a more recent version.  Can I pull the driver off of the operable server and install it under the LTS versions?10:18
ramensammicha wget downlaod for example10:18
Jack_SparrowArchoniam:                  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:18
revearslu10:18
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jribArchoniam: note that what si in feisty is what was in debian at the beginning of the year10:18
ramensammichhow do I see the progress bar again?10:18
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jribjuano__: if it's a symlink, make sure it's not dangling10:19
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bria1does anyone know why my desktop scrolls a few pixels when the mouse reaches the left or right edges?10:19
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juano__jrib: how can i be sure of this10:19
bria1its like it doesn't fit, but only by 2-4 pixels10:19
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juano__jrib: its light blue in gnome-terminal10:19
jribjuano__: join me in #ubuntu-classroom10:19
ptn107alecwh:  you using feisty?10:19
alecwhptn107, sure am.10:20
alecwhwell, installing fiesty at least.10:20
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ptn107alecwh:  the i386?10:20
alecwhwhat is that?10:20
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stuart-hm, kmobiletools page doesn't haev much documentation. does it support data transfer like pics/mp310:20
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ptn107alecwh: you have a 64 bit processor in that thing>10:20
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ptn107alecwh: you have a 64 bit processor in that thing?10:20
stuart-oh wiat they have a channel10:20
alecwhDell Latitude D630, that's the laptop I'm installing on. And I have a Intel Core 2 Duo... not sure.10:20
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samwizealecwh: i386 system architecture10:20
dogwatertook me 16 tries to install ubuntu on a box lol10:20
alecwhI honestly don't know.10:21
dogwaterproblem with mirrors much lol10:21
alecwhHow do I find out?10:21
cybrhumanHow do I reenable the default graphics drivers in Feisty?10:21
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bria1does anyone know what its called when my entire desktop scrolls at the edges? so I can google for answers?10:21
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samwizealecwh: you can find your system architecture in system information10:21
samwizeyours should be x8610:21
magnetronbria1: desktop effects?10:22
ptn107alecwh: its a core 2 duo, yours should be 64 bit10:22
alecwhsamwize, the laptop I'm installing it on doesn't have a linux operating system yet. I'm just trying to install it right now...10:22
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jrattner1Question: What is the easiest wiki to set up on an ubuntu webserver?10:22
jrattner1?10:22
ptn107alecwh: thats what the intel site says10:22
alecwhok, ptn107, but I'm using 32bit.10:22
Jowialecwh, I would try with the alternate cd (or the minimal 8MB CD iso that downloads the packages from the net)10:22
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samwizeoh, i thought core 2 duo was x86...10:22
bria1magnetron: isn't that more like compiz-glx stuff?10:22
bria1this is a new install10:22
ramensammichc2d is both10:22
ptn107alecwh: you should try the 64 bit cd image to install see if that says the same thing10:22
Jowialecwh, 32/64 bit versions should both work.10:22
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danya__when I get that the package has no installation candidate ? what should I do !!?10:22
anTiXis it possible to have gThumb save comments directly in the jpg-files and not as extra xml-files?10:23
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ArchoniamJack_Sparrow, what is the debian package site that i should put in as a deb (not deb-src) source? The mirror i used?10:23
alecwhBut I would prefer not to use the 64-bit.... lots of apps don't work with it10:23
magnetronbria1: compiz is bundled by default, i thought you referred to the Cube effect10:23
alecwhright?10:23
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bria1nope10:23
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bria1its just like my desktop is a few pixels wider than my display10:23
ptn107alecwh: just some plugins like flash, but there are workarounds.10:23
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ptn107alecwh: i have no complaints about feisty-6410:23
alecwhI'm a web deveolper, so that's vital. ;)10:23
bria1so when the mouse reaches the right edge the whole thing moves a few pixels to show the final couple of columns10:23
alecwhand where is that 8mb thing?10:23
Jowialecwh, yeah like flash. anyway, I got the same error but on totally different hardware with the feisty CD. the alternate cd worked better for me.10:23
alecwhptn107, is 64bit better?10:24
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Cubeygood god, i'm getting worse performance out of ubuntu than I ever did on WinME when it was near death10:24
ptn107alecwh: jowi has a point, alternate cd should be tried first10:24
samwizei say stick with 32bit10:24
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alecwhok, where can I find that?10:24
Cubeythe system was fine, i shut down, started it back up and it's like i'm on a 233Mhz with 64MB RAM10:24
alecwhand how can I burn it (I'm on my ubuntu desktop, my other PC)10:24
ptn107alecwh: your better off staying 32 for the hell of it10:24
Jowialecwh the minimal can be found here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD10:24
alecwhok, thanks! And is there a reason I would prefer 64-bit?10:25
Cubeyhow the heck do you even diagnose a problem that bogs your system WAAAAAAAY down?10:25
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Cubeythe system was fine, on the next boot it's total crap10:25
JowiCubey, htop is a godsend10:25
alecwhJowi, ptn107, where can I find the alternate CD?10:25
ptn107alecwh: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/   and just download PC (Intel x86) alternate install CD10:25
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blargmanhow would i go about removing mac80211 from ubuntu?10:26
alecwhok, ptn107. What do You recomend I burn the .iso with? (i'm on a ubuntu pc)10:26
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CubeyJowi, installing it now....10:26
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alecwh!burn10:26
Jowialecwh, ubuntu.com. click on desktop download and there is a checkbox underneath the download button for the alternate10:26
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto10:26
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ptn107alecwh: ha, well there you go10:26
alecwhheh, ok. I'll go with gnomebaker10:26
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CubeyJowi, what good will this do me btw, it's just a process viewer10:27
alecwhOk, and ptn107, if this doesn't work, what can I try?10:27
cybrhumanHow do I reenable the default graphics drivers in Feisty? (Please help a newbie getting his gui working again)10:28
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JowiCubey, it will let you know what bogs down your system cpu wise and it is easy to kill processes with it even when windows stop responding.10:28
Frack-Hesseif i make an ext2 fs on my existing fat32 partition via "mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda3", is the data on that partition then automatically beeing ereased?10:28
Frack-Hessebecause i want that^^10:28
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JowiCubey, if that was not what you asked you might want to rephrase your question.10:28
Cubeyok, thanks, when/if it ever finishes installing (yes, the system is that bogged down) i'll see10:28
Cplunsfordhey all anyone know what the wine server/channel is?10:28
ptn107alecwh: i dont think i know much beyond the gui or text installers;  ive honestly never had a problem installing either way, someone else is bound to know10:29
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ramensammichso can anyone help m?10:29
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Nighthi everybody i am newbee is it right channel 4 me ???10:29
ale1so i installed git-core and when i ran something sys 6 to reboot ruinit, but when it rebooted it gets 2 seconds into boot and my pc shuts off...anyone know what gives?10:29
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samwizeyes night10:29
samwize:)10:29
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Frack-Hesseif i make an ext2 fs on my existing fat32 partition via "mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda3", is the data on that partition then automatically beeing ereased?10:29
Frack-Hessebecause i want that^^10:29
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Cubeygotta be kidding me, it was the system monitor?10:29
Jowiale1, runlevel 6 = shutdown10:29
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Nightthanx sam )10:30
mindframe_how do you change the default runlevel in ubuntu?10:30
G0rillai need help !!!10:30
Jowiale1, that means that you told the system to shutdown as soon as it boots.10:30
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samwize!ask G0rilla10:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask g0rilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:30
ale1how do i fix it? i'm on live cd10:30
G0rillahow can i connect to internet with ubuntu10:30
G0rilladsl10:30
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G0rilla???10:31
martoyaG0rilla: pppoeconf10:31
samwizeG0rilla: it should be in network settings10:31
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G0rillayes, i know that, but it doesn't work ?!10:32
Frack-Hessecould someone answer my (probably pretty easy) question? =(10:32
Frack-Hesseif i make an ext2 fs on my existing fat32 partition via "mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda3", is the data on that partition then automatically beeing ereased?10:32
scorp123Frack-Hesse: yes10:32
Frack-Hessekthx :*10:32
JowiFrack-Hesse, mkfs formats10:32
scorp123Frack-Hesse: of course10:32
ExiledSoldierwhen I start my computer grub isn't giving me the option to boot windows.  can someone help please.10:32
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Frack-Hesse:10:32
Frack-Hesse:D10:32
Nightcan anybody guide a newbee here plz...10:32
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Frack-Hessethat's all i wanted :**10:32
mc44!ask | Night10:33
ubotuNight: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:33
alecwhthis sucks, you would think that a dell laptop would be set to go with ubuntu!10:33
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ale1anyone know how i change runlevel settings in grub?10:33
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Nightok..how do i ask ppl 2 chat with me?10:34
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alecwhHow many tests does memtest86 perform? It's on Test #8, how many are there?10:34
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kibahello10:34
ptn107ExiledSoldier: in a terminal     sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list    and scroll to bottom, is there a windows entry there10:34
mc44Night: just ask your question10:34
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kibapreviously, I used debian10:34
erUSULalecwh: iirc it will continue untill you stop it10:34
kibafor some reason, I cannot enable usage of ubuntu's beryl software10:35
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Nighthow do i ask somebody 2 chat with me?10:35
kibaand ubuntu look ugly10:35
mc44Night: what do you mean?10:35
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kibaprivate chat?10:35
ptn107ExiledSoldier: err its    menu.lst   not menu.list10:35
Jowiale1, why not boot into rescue/failsafe and type "runlevel 2"10:36
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jrchas anyone used the UM245R from FTDI on ubuntu?10:36
ExiledSoldierptn107: its not there, I didn't have my windows HDD plugged in when I installed Ubuntu.10:36
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Nighti can c so many nicks here but how 2 chat with them....10:36
alecwhHow do I download a file from the internet using the terminal?10:36
univremonsterNight10:36
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univremonstergo to Discussion10:36
alecwh!wget10:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:36
univremonsterand at the bottom click on Users10:36
tarzeaualecwh: wget the.url.the.file10:36
alecwhok.10:37
univremonsteryou can chat with whomever you like... for instance I just sent you messages10:37
mc44Night: people can see what you say... did you have questions about ubuntu?10:37
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samwizeis it possible to view .pdf in ubuntu?10:37
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univremonsterNight:  Do you see my messages to you ?  Look at the left column in this window10:38
tarzeausamwize: yes10:38
samwizeok10:38
mc44!info evince | samwize10:38
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ubotusamwize: evince: Document (postscript, pdf) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1111 kB, installed size 5732 kB10:38
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samwizethx10:38
Nighttell me something bout the channel10:38
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mc44Night: this channel is for ubuntu support...10:38
AkifemreNight, where are you from?10:39
foo32when i can enter haskell i have you are banned what do i do?10:39
univremonsterDoes anybody know how to do a cleanup for drivers on my previously-installed graphics card?10:39
scorp123alecwh: wget10:39
JowiNight, type /topic :)10:39
Akifemrei think, u're on wrong channel to chat :?10:39
Nightfrom india aki10:39
kushal06062007Dear all, I used the live CD today. All went very well.10:39
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lousygaruais gtk widget spelling done with aspell? (want to install a new language and not sure what package)10:40
foo32how can i enter and one kick me/10:40
foo32?10:40
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univremonster*bump*10:40
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Nightok then which channel do i go 4 chat?10:40
foo32what is this?10:40
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w8tahhi folks -- is this the proper channel for ubuntu LTS server support as well as the desktop version -- or is there a dedicated server channel?10:40
mabohi10:40
w8tahNight - pm me please10:41
cybrhumanCould someone please help me getting my ubuntu desktop working again, i installed a new driver for my nvidia graphics card and afterwards it won't boot into the GUI.... Please help me :-(10:41
AkifemreNight, write /quit go'n to chat!10:41
mabosomeone can tell me how can i install softwares downloads from internet?10:41
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w8tahmabo: what extension does your download have on it?10:41
samwizewill evince also run with Xfce?10:42
andrer_does anyone know how to get /etc/network/interfaces to get one interface UP but without assigning any IPS?10:42
maboextension?10:42
kushal06062007The only problem was that the display resoultion was 640*48010:42
w8tahfor example foo.deb10:42
univremonstercybrhuman: you may be able to help me....10:42
w8tahor something equivalent10:42
ArchoniamOookay, what is the US source for debian packages of all types?10:42
w8tahmabo the part after the . is the extension10:42
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mabo.tar.gz10:42
mc44samwize: probably :)10:42
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univremonstercyberhuman:  I sent you a private message10:42
mabo.tar.gz10:43
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univremonstercyberhuman:  Do you know how to cleanup the drivers from your old graphics card?10:43
scorp123mabo: unpack it then .... besides: Shouldn't there be a readme file or something?10:43
w8tahmabo -- ok - -sounds like you have grabbed a source package - in VERY general terms -- you are going to have to install the build-essentials package (if you do nt have it already)10:43
Archoniam...10:43
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cybrhumanunivremonster: No...10:43
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w8tahmabo: then -- unpack the source, cd into the directory, type ./configure then when its done, type make then sudo make install10:43
Jowiandrer_, I don't see why you would want that since a NIC without IP is useless, but you can customize the NICs in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf10:44
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scorp123w8tah: why do you suppose it's a source package? All we know it's a tar.gz ... could be anything.10:44
univremonstercybrhuman:  I think you may have the same problem as me10:44
w8tahmabo: BUT!!!! that varies some what package to package so use at your own risk10:44
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mabohumm10:44
maboi dont understand so much10:44
mabowait10:44
univremonstercyberhuman:  My problems were less severe, I just can't do 3D rendering.  But I know that you have to remove the old drivers before things work normally10:44
w8tahin general tar.gz is used for source -- .deb or equivalent for binaries10:44
andrer_Jowi: i want the interface to be up just for a Virtual Machine to work from it... but I don't want the "host" to have an IP10:44
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mabowhere i find the essential pakpage?10:44
Sivikcan i get some assistance trying to figure out why i'm having issues with reinstalling grub: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30459/10:44
mabohoo i see10:45
cybrhumanunivremonster: could you help me do that?10:45
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mabo...10:45
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mabobinari10:45
w8tahuse apt, synaptic or aptitude to install it -- but PLEASE BE CAREFUL10:45
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univremonstercybrhuman:  Not really, I'm a n00b at this kind of thing.  I have found at www.ubuntuforums.org that it involves messing with xorg10:45
scorp123w8tah: that's just wrong .... tar.gz could be anything.10:45
Roundy_T1Hey, i need help setting up my Creative 24bit sound card for 5.1 surround...anyone willing to help me out on this one?10:45
mc44univremonster: does your new card not work?10:45
w8tahscorp123: ok - -i stand corrected10:45
Jowiandrer_, "man interfaces" will list some options (like assgning static addresses)10:45
scorp123mabo: what software are we talking about? Can you please give us the full filename?10:46
w8tahmabo: ignore everything i just sent you - -and proceede at your own risk10:46
univremonstermc44:  It works, but it doesn't render 3D and it's choppy10:46
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mc44univremonster: what card?10:46
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andrer_Jowi: i did look into that... but it doesn't work if i don't add the address (and in this case, no address is not a static address)10:46
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ArchoniamI ask once more, what do you type for the debian unstable deb10:46
Archoniamwhat source*10:46
andrer_Jowi: i could try to assign ip 0.0.0.0 to it... but what would be the "netmask" parameter for that? 0.0.0.0 as well?10:46
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univremonstermc44:   FREETECH PX6200TD-128M GeForce 6200 128MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail10:46
mc44Archoniam: why do you want debian debs,,,?10:46
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mc44univremonster: are you on feisty?10:47
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scorp123Archoniam: you'd be better off to use Debian right away.10:47
univremonstermc44: yes, updated 2 days ago from Dapper10:47
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univremonsterI had the same problems in all 3 (Dapper, Edgy, Fiesty)10:47
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mc44univremonster: have you tried System -> Admin -> Restricted Driver Manager10:47
CubeyJowi, it's not anything using cpu power10:48
Archoniammc44: I'm trying to get swftools to run. I NEED IT FOR SELF-STABILITY!10:48
Roundy_T1Hey, i need help setting up my Creative 24bit sound card for 5.1 surround...anyone willing to help me out on this one?10:48
Cubeyit's simply acting like crap10:48
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univremonstermc44:  I have not.  I am there now and it says it is "not in use"10:48
Jowiandrer_, I would set a dummy static address. or see if  /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf has other options...10:48
mc44Archoniam: debian debs may not work on ubuntu, and adding a debian repository to your sources.list is a bad idea10:48
Cubeyin all the years I've used windows, I never had an installtion, not even WinME, go back in 4 days the way ubuntu has10:48
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mc44univremonster: then enable it10:48
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Cubeygo bad*10:48
univremonstermc44:  "Because the software is proprietary, it cannot easily be changed to fix any future problems"10:48
kismetCubey, your jinxed :p10:48
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Archoniamscorp123: Are you CRAZY? Ubuntu friggin' ROCKS man!10:49
mc44univremonster: yes, don't worry10:49
JowiCubey, rephrase your question.10:49
univremonstermc44:  how do I enable then?10:49
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mc44univremonster: click the box...?10:49
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scorp123Archoniam: yes, but why then your insistence to use packages from another distro?10:49
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plich_did someone have a wireless card supported by ndiswrapper ??10:49
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bruenigscorp123, are you talking about debian?10:49
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univremonstermc44:  sorry my theme is a bit... off and the box was the same color as the background.  Got it now.  Thanks!10:49
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iNcreaseanyone can help? i got this xmodmap problem ... i got mx518 mice  with this as standard option: xmodmap -e " pointer = 1 2 3 8 6 7 4 5 9"10:50
iNcrease .. now i want to let work my prev and next button on it but cant seems to find it :...10:50
Archoniamscorp123: I'll tell you what i told to mc44- I NEED SWFTOOLS FOR SELF-STABILITY!!10:50
wesolekhello :) can anybody help me out going back to windows? Windows installer doesn't see the partitions that linux was on so I've been struggling for the past few hours to get it back to normal - no luck :(10:50
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bruenig!caps | Archoniam10:50
ubotuArchoniam: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.10:50
mc44!caps | Archoniam10:50
scorp123bruenig: Archoniam here tries to install non-Ubuntu packages on Ubuntu ...10:50
CubeyJowi, it's not so much a question as a statement. i can't figure out what's wrong. it's not something eating up CPU. the system simply is bogged down now after i did a proper shut down. i booted it back up to find it to be performing in a useless fashion. it takes 5 minutes to boot to the desktop10:50
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bruenigscorp123, oh10:50
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bruenigArchoniam, that's not a good idea unless you are compiling from source10:50
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Cubeythere are no errors when I run it in recovery mode to veiw what happens10:51
bruenigcompiling from source is safe but installing foreign debs can be problematic10:51
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TheCreationistCan someone tell my why every program I try to print from crashes as soon as I select "Print" from a menu?  I tried removing and then reinstalling my printer driver, but now my printer suddenly isn't even detected....10:51
scorp123bruenig: exactly .... library versions and stuff can be different between Ubuntu and Debian ....10:51
univremonstercybrhuman:  Do you have a liveCD?10:51
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bruenigyes compiled against different libraries is hell10:51
cybrhumanunivremonster: in 20 minutes, yes10:51
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Cubeythe live cd performs better than my installed version now all of a sudden10:52
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univremonstercybrhuman:  perhaps you can get your data off using that... though if you're burning one you already thought of that.  I have to restart, good luck!10:52
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wesolekI need some help to change my partitions back to be visible by windows installer, I tried to change it in fdisk (linux) but so far no luck10:52
iNcreaseanyone can help? i got this xmodmap problem ... i got mx518 mice  with this as standard option: xmodmap -e " pointer = 1 2 3 8 6 7 4 5 9"  .. now i want to let work my prev and next button on it but cant seems to find it :...10:52
clariahi, does anybody know this theme? http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=htopww7.png10:52
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JowiCubey, have a look in /etc/rc2.d to see if you have services starting up that you don't need (like various servers and indexing tools)10:52
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bruenigwesolek, there is no reason the partitions wouldn't be invisible, you might check out ##windows though10:53
bruenigvisible*10:53
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abhorredHey all, where is the option in KDE to change the Screen Resolution?10:53
w8tahcan someone please point me to the ubuntu server channel -- #ubuntu-server as listed in the wiki seems to be defunct10:53
abhorredI get the feeling they buried it10:53
bruenigabhorred, #kubuntu might give you a quicker answer10:53
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mabo_someone can talk spanish here??????????????????????10:53
wesolekyou mean the channel windows? bruenig10:53
CubeyJowi, it was fine until i shut down a short while ago. it's not something eating CPU, it's just bogged WAY down but, i'll check that too ....10:53
bruenigwesolek, yes10:54
JowiCubey, a nice tool for that (that has got explanations of all the services) is "bum"10:54
mc44w8tah: there is no specific channel10:54
ompaul!es | mabo_10:54
ubotumabo_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:54
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abhorredI am using Ubuntu, I just happened to install KDE on it10:54
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wesolekthanks bruenig :)10:54
w8tahmc44: ok -10:54
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wesolek#windows10:54
bruenigabhorred, right but the advice they give you will be the same10:54
bruenigwesolek, it is ##windows10:54
abhorredAight man10:54
wesolek##windows10:54
JowiCubey, ah, maybe it was just checking a disk for errors? if you reboot again is it ok?10:54
wesolekdidn't work lol10:54
bruenigwesolek, /join ##windows10:54
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wesolekoh ok lol10:54
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CubeyJowi, i've rebooted it about 5 times now10:54
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w8tahim trying to install the ssmtp package that is shown in synaptic on my ubuntu LTS LAMP server -- but it refuses to be found -- can someone point me in the right direction?10:55
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Cubeyit sits on loading files for booting or something like that for a while for one10:55
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bruenig!find ssmtp10:55
ubotuFound: ssmtp10:55
Cubeybut when the GUI finally loads it's also bogged way down10:55
JowiCubey, every 30 boots or so the disk will be checked automatically. ah, ok. I would use "bum" I think. Can't think of anyway else to troubleshoot atm.10:55
bruenig!info ssmtp10:55
ubotussmtp: extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.61-11 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 8 kB10:55
ikoniaw8tah: what is the name of the package you want10:55
bruenigw8tah, what error do you get10:55
Cubeythe overall performance is horrible10:55
w8tahssmtp -- its a simple mail transport agent?10:55
bruenigw8tah, when you do apt-get install ssmtp'10:55
ikoniaw8tah: and whats the error you get10:55
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JowiCubey, check the logs maybe10:55
bruenigssmpt*10:56
w8tahbruenig: no candidate version found10:56
MrTankJumpMay someone help me change my screen resolution, it only gives me the option of 800x600x50Hz.10:56
bruenigw8tah, you are on feisty?10:56
ikoniaahhh its not in 6.0610:56
Cubeycheck what log for what? :S10:56
w8tahbruenig: no - 6.06 LTS10:56
w8tahbruenig: server10:56
bruenig!info ssmtp dapper10:56
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ArchoniamWell then, this leads to the question i have asked at least five times! (In advance, yes i have used sudo! And yes, i have tried most of the $#@^ people on the forums *and* irc chatroom have said! Which would again be nothing useful!) My checkinstall and "make" and "make install" commands are bugged or something because i type in "sudo checkinstall 'package/name/was/here.tar.gz' and i get Permission Denied for the package. It's pr10:56
ubotussmtp: extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.61-5 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 8 kB10:56
bruenigw8tah, do you have the extra repositories enabled?10:57
scorp123w8tah: did you already do an "apt-get update"10:57
TheCreationistCan someone tell my why every program I try to print from crashes as soon as I select "Print" from a menu?  I tried removing and then reinstalling my printer driver, but now my printer suddenly isn't even detected....10:57
w8tahbruenig: must not have the right repos10:57
NETWizzI need help10:57
Sivikcan i get some help with grub10:57
w8tahscorp123: ya i did but i'll do it again10:57
JowiCubey, /var/log/messages - /var/log/syslog - /var/log/boot (if you have that). no idea what to look for though. could be anything.10:57
NETWizzI went to debug a friend's dos boot disc for updating bios10:57
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NETWizzHe set it up so that in autoexec.bat it runs fdisk /mbr10:57
NETWizzI was unaware10:57
bruenigw8tah, ok well edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment all the lines starting with deb10:57
NETWizzuntil after I ran it10:57
Sivikloaded the os and just get to grub>, did a resetup after having to reinstall winblows, and now i can't get the howtos to work, here is what it says when i'm in grub>, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30459/10:57
NETWizzNow I get Missing Operating System on my Ubuntu laptp10:57
bruenigw8tah, then apt-get update and apt-get install ssmtp10:57
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iNcreaseanyone can help? i got this xmodmap problem ... i got mx518 mice  with this as standard option: xmodmap -e " pointer = 1 2 3 8 6 7 4 5 9"  .. now i want to let work my prev and next button on it but cant seems to find it :...10:57
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w8tahbruenig: ok -- im on it10:58
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Flannel!grub | NETWizz10:58
CubeyJowi, after this mess, a few virus related issues with windows doesn't seem so bad. :/10:58
ubotuNETWizz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:58
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FlannelNETWizz: first link there, that'll reinstall GRUB10:58
previewiae10:58
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JowiCubey, a better question is, did you install something before that first troublesome boot?10:59
w8tahbruenig: thanks  - im comming over from gentoo and still learning apt10:59
MrTankJumpMay someone help me change my screen resolution, it only gives me the option of 800x600x50Hz.10:59
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mwe!fixres | MrTankJump10:59
ubotuMrTankJump: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:59
NETWizzThanks10:59
SivikFlannel: what am i doing wrong that is causing mine not to work, thats the howto i followed10:59
CubeyJowi, yes, lots of things. :/10:59
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akariCould someone please help me with an unsupported, non-standard software install of Sun Java Studio Enterprise 8.1? http://developers.sun.com/jsenterprise/downloads/index.jsp11:00
FlannelSivik: Right, I saw your paste, looks... normal.  Your BIOS is setup to boot off of hd0, right?11:00
blargmanhow do i mount an iso rw?11:00
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cybrhumanmc44: you seemed to be able to help univremonster with his drivers issue, maybe you could help me too with a graphics issue?11:00
JowiCubey, so check /var/log/dpkg.log to see what you installed11:00
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blargmani tried -o loop,rw  :(11:00
Cubeymight have been firestart perhaps, a firewall. i'm attempting to even get bum first. i have xfce up instead of gnome and it's just as slow11:00
bruenigblargman, you can't write to an iso11:00
mc44cybrhuman: whats the problem?11:00
bruenigblargman, you can extract it add some stuff and then put it back together11:01
akaribruenig: He's talking about an iso image file11:01
scorp123bruenig: should be possible11:01
SivikFlannel, its the only hd that i have installed, i get to the grub 1.5 but then it just goes to grub>11:01
bruenigscorp123, not by mounting though11:01
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cybrhumanmc44: installed new driver, and after that my gui hasn't worked.11:01
ArchoniamWHAT THE CRAP? Nobody sees a five-line message? Well, this better be visible(for once)! (In advance, yes i have used sudo! And yes, i have tried most of the $#@^ people on the forums *and* irc chatroom have said! Which would again be nothing useful!) My checkinstall and "make" and "make install" commands are bugged or something because i type in "sudo checkinstall 'package/name/was/here.tar.gz' and i get Permission Denied for the 11:01
scorp123bruenig: an ISO image? Sure.11:01
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JC_Denton_does ubuntu work with most webcams?11:01
scorp123bruenig: .... at least that's what I thought .....11:01
mc44!attitude | Archoniam11:01
ubotuArchoniam: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines11:01
mc44cybrhuman: what driver? what card?11:02
mwemount the iso copy and change files, create a new iso11:02
JowiArchoniam, "./configure" + "make" + "sudo checkinstall"11:02
MrTankJumpthe command did nothing to fix my problem11:02
bruenigwell he said he can't write to it even with -o rw11:02
mweof course not it wont mount rw11:02
scorp123Archoniam: besides, checkinstall won't work everywhere according to my experience.11:02
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bruenigmwe, so then how do  you do it?11:03
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ArchoniamJowi: As what?11:03
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JowiArchoniam, checkinstall creates and installs a .deb package. not a tar.gz.11:03
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cybrhumanmc44: nvidia geforce go 7600, not sure on the driver .... x.org is the only thing i remember.11:03
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JC_Denton_!webcam11:03
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mwebruenig: mount the iso, copy all the files elsewhere. change what you want and create a new iso file11:03
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mc44cybrhuman: how did you install the driver?11:03
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digin4is there a black gnome theme for ubuntu instead of organge?:P11:03
bruenig!patience | Archoniam you don't check install .tar.gzs you check install after compiling the source11:03
ubotuArchoniam you don't check install .tar.gzs you check install after compiling the source: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines11:03
JowiArchoniam, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall11:04
Sivikwhat else should i try, it seems to still not be working (the grub)11:04
cybrhumanmc44: package manager, the one that gnome uses.11:04
cybrhumanmc44: synaptic is it?11:04
FlannelSivik: Ah.  That's not a re-install GRUB thign then.  That's a menu.lst issue11:04
mc44cybrhuman: yes, which driver did you install...?11:04
bruenigmwe, right well that is basically an alternative way to what I was saying11:04
FlannelSivik: pastebin your menu.lst (/boot/grub/menu.lst)11:04
SivikFlannel, then let me pastebin the menu.lst11:05
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Archoniamscorp123 and Jowi, Checkinstall never works for some reason even if used in the most proper of ways.11:05
FlannelSivik: make sure you get the one off your HD, not the one in memory of the LiveCD11:05
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bruenigmwe, I just meant to say you can't mount an iso add files to it, unmount it and have that file changed, you have to add files and recreate it11:05
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Siviki know, i had it set that way11:05
plich__did someone have a wireless card supported by ndiswrapper ??11:05
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scorp123Archoniam: well, you must be doing something wrong then. For complex issues I suggest you use the forums. It makes it easier to post complex issues, copy & paste outputs, etc. IRC has its limits you see.11:06
mc44cybrhuman: what error do you get on startup?11:06
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Jack_Sparrowplich__: what wireless card do you have11:06
JowiArchoniam, just make sure you have "build-essential" installed. and read that page link I gave you.11:06
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ArchoniamWell, there's the friggin' problem. Gotta chmod first.11:06
bruenigArchoniam, when you compile stuff it should tip you off as to whether it has erred, don't just ./configure make and make install without looking at what it spits out at you11:06
Sivikhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30484/11:07
cybrhumanmc44: when the ubuntu loading screen displeys it goes blank afterwards...11:07
plich__Jack_Sparrow: I've working card, but i must to start it by hand (dhclient wlan0)11:07
ArchoniamJowi: Thanks for the linkm figured out what the crap i did wrong11:07
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mc44cybrhuman: blank.? you get text? and error? a prompt...?11:07
JowiArchoniam, no prob.11:07
cybrhumanmc44: I am able to log on in text mode11:07
Jack_Sparrowplich__: I have a couple broadcom's and they have been working fine11:07
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mc44cybrhuman: did you mess with your xorg when you installed the driveR?11:08
kasleprowhich repo for getting opera11:08
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plich__Jack_Sparrow: They working on GUI, that U can connect/disconnect by network manager ?11:08
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akariCan someone please help with installing Sun Java Studio on Feisty? >.<11:08
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Jack_Sparrowplich__: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome11:08
Jack_Sparrowplich__: Is what I have running here11:09
Jowikaslepro, http://www.opera.com/download/11:09
FlannelSivik: Which partition is / on?  and is /boot on a different one?11:09
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cybrhumanmc44: i executed an instruction for enabling that driver (command came up after instaling the package), I got a error message there i think but I thought it didnt mean so much...11:09
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Sivikroot is on sd3 and the boot is on sd211:09
VanillaTboneOK, I got a simple problem that I cannot figure out guys...11:09
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mc44cybrhuman: ok do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the "nv" driver and the defaults for everything else11:10
Jack_Sparrowplich__: Good luck with that.. I need to power down and switch some hardware.11:10
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cybrhumanmc44: thanks, i will try that11:10
sayersI can't suspend because of a Plug and Play problem11:11
mc44cybrhuman: then run startx to get into the gui11:11
VanillaTboneI open my terminal use gedit to open a Python file and edit some syntax, but the file is "appears" to be blank. But this is a tech support's instructions on their software11:11
bruenigVanillaTbone, check that there wasn't a typo in te filename11:11
bruenigthe*11:11
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Sivikdoes having those two didn't partitions and hope that isn't a problem11:12
FlannelSivik: Ah, that's your issue then.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0  and pay special attenton to where he mounts /boot (his /dev/hda1)11:12
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VanillaTboneI copied and pasted then cd'd to the dir and "ls" and it is the right one11:12
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bruenigVanillaTbone, what does cat filename give you11:12
dyrneVanillaTbone: as a rule try to use tab completion when gedit filename just to be sure11:12
VanillaTboneFind the line that says:11:12
VanillaTbone {{{11:12
VanillaTbone # self.add_renderer("gstrenderer")11:12
VanillaTbone }}}11:12
VanillaTbone And remove the # at the beginning of it, so it should look like:11:12
VanillaTbone {{{11:12
VanillaTbone self.add_renderer("gstrenderer")11:12
VanillaTbone }}}11:12
VanillaTbone The comment out the line that says11:12
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bruenig!ops11:12
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SivikVanilliaTbone: pleae use pastebin11:13
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Jowi!paste > VanillaTbone11:13
VanillaTboneyeah11:13
VanillaTboneSorry bout the flood guys11:13
Cubey*sigh* this is just insanity11:13
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SivikFlannel: i have that printed out11:14
FlannelSivik: no, having those partitions separate isn't a problem, it's just different than having them together.  Most people prefer having /boot separate11:14
bruenigVanillaTbone, does cat filename give you stuff, yes or no?11:14
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SivikFlannel: ok11:14
VanillaTboneNo bruenig11:14
VanillaTbonesec11:14
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ArchoniamVanillaTbone: Just use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and you'll be in the clear from being kickbanned by an op.11:14
bruenigVanillaTbone, but it doesn't tell you that the file doesn't exist?11:14
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VanillaTbonesec11:15
kasleprohow do i increase the speed on my tutch pad? please help...11:15
Compressedis there an easy way to go back to python 2.4 after doing an apt-get update?11:15
VanillaTbonesudo gedit /usr/share/python-support/democracyplayer/democracy/frontend_implementation/VideoDisplay.py11:15
FlannelSivik: Are you using the desktop CD or the alternate CD?11:15
VanillaTbone^that is it11:15
bruenigCompressed, I believe they are installed simultaneously11:15
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Compressedoh11:15
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bruenigVanillaTbone, I don't care, do cat /that/long/thing and tell me if it shoots stuff out or not11:15
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VanillaTbonealright bruenig11:15
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SivikFlannel: i see what i missed11:16
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Compressedbruenig: in /usr/include i only see python2.5 dir11:16
bruenig!info python2.411:16
ubotupython2.4: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.4). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.4-2ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 2731 kB, installed size 9296 kB11:16
bruenig!info python 2.511:16
ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB11:16
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CubeyJowi, guess what? Bum froze11:16
bruenig!info python2.511:17
ubotupython2.5: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.5). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3015 kB, installed size 10300 kB11:17
FlannelSivik: sounds good.  Also, if you go to the bottom of the page, there's some tutorial from elsewhere, that walks you through it too (look for "configuring the GRUB menu")11:17
bruenigCompressed, yes they are two different packages, make sure python2.4 and python2.5 are installed11:17
Compressedah11:17
Compressedapt-get install python2.4?11:17
Cubeyit fails to even load the data11:17
bruenigCompressed, yes11:17
FlannelSivik: I belive you just missed setting root to hda311:17
Compressedoh ok ty11:17
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TJ1Hi all  i was running Ubuntu 7.04 from a CD and it worked fine, when I installed it on the hard disk my wireless internet connection isnt working now   can someonehelp me get it working again?11:17
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bruenigTJ1, does iwconfig give you any information as to which interface is the wireless interface or not11:18
JowiCubey, "sudo bum" should do it and it takes a while for it to find what you have installed. anyway, not sure I can give you more pointers than that. /var/log/dpkg.log can be useful to see what exactly you installed and if you really need it...11:18
VanillaTbonebruenig: you were right.... I will have to contact the support rep and get the right dir and/or filename. It does not exist11:18
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Carlos___wolas11:18
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TJ1hmmm11:19
TJ1how do i type that in?  lol11:19
bruenigTJ1, open the terminal applications>accessories>terminal and do 'iwconfig"11:19
bruenigmismatching quotes11:20
bruenighmmm11:20
BaD_CrCbruenig: wlan0 usually11:20
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bruenigBaD_CrC, usually yeah, mine is eth2 though11:20
SivikFlannel: thanks for making me read it again11:20
FlannelSivik: Get it figured out?11:21
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fzalyanyone knows how to remove 'mldonkey' pls?11:21
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bruenigfzaly, how did you install it?11:21
TJ1it says: No wireless extensions11:21
BaD_CrCbruenig: are you using a router as a client? that's how mine is setup.11:21
w8tahi know this is really really minor, but on my gentoo servers, both my normal command prompts and also my vi windows have some color coding to them - -on my ubuntu boxes they do not -- is there an EASY way to achieve this?11:21
TJ1on eth011:21
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danya__someone plz help me with wine installation !!?11:21
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TJ1eth1 IEEE 802.11b/g11:21
bruenigBaD_CrC, it has to do with the chipset, ipw stuff is always eth211:21
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TJ1it works on the wired network11:22
Archoniam(now, i'm probably going to follow y'all's BS and i'll have to repeat it anyway.) I tried ta ./configure in swftools. It hates me and now it outputs the error here: (also the trial and error process i used) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30485/11:22
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BaD_CrCbruenig: what chipset? i just got in, so if you said anything above, i didn't catch it.11:22
TJ1just n0oton the wireless11:22
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ladydoorw8tah: Are you talking about the prompt? ls output? ncurses applications?11:22
fzalyi've ran the mlnet11:22
TJ1its an HP latop  p4  3.2ghz with 1gig of RAM11:23
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bruenigBaD_CrC, no I mean the way that stuff is named is dependent on the wireless cards, intel cards from what I have read are usually named eth2 or ethsomething whereas other cards go with wlan0, it is dependent on that not on router config or whatever else you were talking about11:23
w8tahladydoor: the prompt itself and everything in vi11:23
fzalythen it works11:23
ladydoorw8tah: what shell do you use? bash?11:23
w8tahyes11:23
Roundy_T1My sound works, but i don't have any control over the levels....any ideas?11:23
bruenigTJ1, are you sure it is eth0? does it have a bunch of stuff beside eth0 in the output:11:23
bruenig?11:23
TJ1no  eth0 says no wireless connections11:23
TJ1eth1 has a bunch of stuff next to it11:24
TJ1Broadcom 430611:24
bruenigTJ1, ok so it is eth111:24
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w8tahladydoor: yes11:24
ladydoorw8tah: okay, what is the output of cat .bashrc |grep PS111:24
ladydoor?11:24
TJ1yes  eth1 sounds like the wired connection11:24
bruenigTJ1, do iwlist eth1 scan, and see if it picks up any access points11:24
BaD_CrCbruenig: i have an intel gigabit ethernet port on my mobo and it shows as eth0 and i have a dlink wireless card on the same board as wlan0. both are bridged for a little boost in speed for transferring stuff across my gigabit lan.11:24
bruenigTJ1, eth1 is the wireless connection11:24
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TJ1ok11:24
CubeyJowi, i finally got it. however i don't think it made any differnce disabling the ones i didn't need11:24
bruenigTJ1, eth0 says there is no wireless stuff on it, that is how you know11:25
P-Kis the ubuntu.beryl-project.org still working?11:25
abhorredbruenig: Thanks for sending me there, didn't totally fix me up but they gave me good advice11:25
TJ1how do i get it to find my wireless router?11:25
Roundy_T1My sound works, but i don't have any control over the levels....any ideas?11:25
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w8tahladydoor: no such file or directory11:25
abhorredEveryone have a wonderful day11:25
BaD_CrCodd11:25
bruenigBaD_CrC, ok so you are affirming my point11:25
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TJ1?11:25
ladydoorw8tah: are you in your home dir? if not, do cat ~/.bashrc|grep PS111:25
akaridanya__: May I kindly redirect you to; http://winehq.org/site/download-deb11:25
bruenigTJ1, do "iwlist eth1 scan" in terminal11:26
bruenigTJ1, see if it picks anything up11:26
ladydoorw8tah: If you don't have a .bashrc, we'll just get you one started real quick.11:26
BaD_CrChmm, i have a ath0 and wifi0 as well. don't know where those came from.11:26
w8tahladydoor: ok11:26
TJ1rth1 says No scan results11:26
bruenigBaD_CrC, different cards, atheros is ath0 I believe11:26
FallingCowI haven't been able to find on the ubuntu website minimum/recommended machine specs to put ubuntu on. Does anyone know (about) what they are?11:26
BaD_CrCatheros is wlan011:26
TJ1eth1 says no scan results11:26
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ArchoniamTold yeh!!! Look the crap back to my last mesage -.-11:27
bruenigFallingCow, 256 MB of ram, 2 gigs of disk space11:27
Archoniammessage*11:27
ladydoorw8tah: this line should get you a color prompt, if nothing else: PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\] \u\[\033[01;34m\] @\h:\[\033[01;31m\] \w\[\033\] \$ '11:27
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bruenigTJ1, so it doesn't see any access points11:27
w8tahladydoor: ok -one moment11:27
ladydoorw8tah: okay.11:27
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TJ1no wireless points, it doesnt apprear that way11:27
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FallingCowbruenig: thanks11:28
dyrneFallingCow: this has more to do with what you are running ontop of the base install. ubuntu by default uses gnome which i dont like with less than 512 ram. xubuntu though id consider usable with 128 or 256. then  fluxbox on ubuntu 64 or above11:28
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rolfenanyone knows about a german-english translation utility for linux?11:28
BaD_CrCgrrr, the gnome bar crashed11:28
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chattrhi11:28
BaD_CrClet's see if it will recover my systray icons11:28
w8tahladydoor where does .bashrc go in the home folder?11:28
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BaD_CrC90% of the time it doesn't11:28
CubeyJowi, could it possibley be a swap issue?11:28
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ladydoorw8tah: I also find it useful to add the lines (without the outermost quotes) "eval "`dircolors -b $HOME/.colordb`" and "alias ls='ls -h --color=auto'"11:29
tupaI get that error compiling a driver, what packages do I need:       error: linux/config.h:11:29
ladydoorw8tah: it's its own file.11:29
dyrneBaD_CrC: pkill gnome-panel; nohup gnome-panel&11:29
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tupait says the file doesn't exist11:29
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danya__akari : I cant seem to add those repos to the source list !11:29
w8tahi found it -- i was in /var/log when i looked for it b411:29
w8tahsorry11:29
bruenigtupa, kernel headers maybe11:29
ladydoorw8tah: no worries :-)11:29
FallingCowdyrne: thanks, I'll likely be running fluxbox, or maybe xfce11:29
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ArchoniamLOL!11:29
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danya__akari : I've tried also another site ..11:30
akaridanya__: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list11:30
bruenigvim*11:30
akariIf you cannot edit the file you forgot to sudo the editor11:30
ladydoorw8tah: sweet. So you might just want to look through your file and edit it some. I believe that in vim there's some feature to enable. If you run the command vimtutor, it's somewhere in there11:30
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BaD_CrCimpatient people don't deserve help.11:30
w8tahladydoor: will do -- looking at it now11:31
bruenig!ot | Archoniam11:31
ubotuArchoniam: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!11:31
chattrdoes other distributions use commands like "sudo" too?11:31
BaD_CrCi didn't get help here by being impatient11:31
abhorredchattr: Other distributions allow you to login as Root :P11:31
bruenigchattr, sudo is a separate program, you can install and use it on any distro11:31
chattrtrue11:31
chattrah okay11:31
akariI successfully suppressed my impatience and got no help - but found it out myself ^.^11:31
chattri used before mandrake11:31
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BaD_CrCif you really must, "sudo su -"11:31
tupabruenig how is the package named? I installed linux-headers-generic, but no luck11:31
abhorredI came from Slackware11:32
chattrbut now i took ubuntu and got a "shock" lol11:32
bruenig!find linux-headers11:32
ubotuFound: linux-headers-2.6.20-15, linux-headers-2.6.20-15-386, linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-headers-2.6.20-15-lowlatency, linux-headers-2.6.20-15-server (and 14 others)11:32
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TJ1so no other suggestions (not trying to sound impatient)  :)11:32
abhorredBut alas, I can get people to actually like Ubuntu11:32
bruenigtupa, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:32
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awsoonnHow shoudl i start going about settign up a Dial up connection in Ubuntu?11:32
tupabruenig that's what I installed11:32
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chattrsometime when i want to compile a program with ./configure etc i get an error message11:32
tupalet me paste the error11:33
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danya__akari : .. the command u gave me what do they do ?11:33
chattrwhat can be the problem for?11:33
tupain debian compiles fine, so I guess ubuntu would be fine too bruenig11:33
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akaridanya__: Start vi editor with root access11:33
dyrnechattr: the first thing you need is build-essential package11:33
bruenigsudo is generally more useful as a means of circumventing passwords, for instance wifi-radar requires root but it is annoying to type it each time when you are roaming, so you just set a sudo exception and all is good11:33
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danya__akari : would u be telling this to a one week new user :P?11:33
chattrdyrne and i get this where?11:33
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SivikFlannel: thanks11:34
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dyrnechattr: your package manager11:34
soothsayerBy default on ubuntu-server is it safe to open UDP 123 for NTP?11:34
Archoniambruenig: lolol....that was about the question i asked, which is not off topic. God, takin' everything the wrong way, making everyone think i'm a dumb#$@ becouse i LOL about talking to 1,125 brick wallk.11:34
tupabruenig : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30488/11:34
Archoniamwalls*11:34
Archoniam1,126*11:34
Syncroumm, i need help with my ET sound (No sound)11:34
panfisthi, i installed xubuntu onto my laptop, then when i tried to install ati drivers according to this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide and when I boot, x fails to start11:34
akaridanya__: We offer help on a case by case basis, we do not offer introductory courses ^.^11:34
w8tahladydoor: how do i run the vimtutor comamnd -- all ive ever done with vim is edit text files and confs11:34
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chattrDyrne okay i will check it then thx11:34
dyrnechattr: having to compile something is pretty rare in ubuntu though. there are alot of packages11:34
tupaas you can see in line 35, linux headers are installed11:34
Archoniampanfist: Go to #xubuntu for that.11:34
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bruenigArchoniam, this is a volunteer channel, we may not know the answer or may intentionally keep it from you for being a jackass, stop complaining, none of us are paid11:35
ladydoorw8tah: Oh, okay. Just type "vimtutor" at the command prompt.11:35
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w8tahin vim or at the normal command line?11:35
ladydoorw8tah: it contains handy tips for using vim, but there is a lot of it.11:35
chattrdyrne so i dont need to?11:35
ladydoorw8tah: normal.11:35
x_hello everybody :-)11:35
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w8tahDOH -- sorry i was trying in vim11:35
Syncrohello11:35
GNUtoohello,what's the name of the printer manager in ubuntu?(the thing that apears when you print something and where you can change the printer queue and similar)11:35
w8tahmy brain is mush tonight11:35
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x_i need some help about Bryl11:35
dyrnechattr: sometimes you might want to. but rarely need to. always search the synaptic package manager first11:35
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BaD_CrCtalk nerdy to me11:35
BaD_CrC:)11:36
SyncroWhat is it x_11:36
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akariGNUtoo: The printer manager is CUPS and the tool you're refering to is most likely evince11:36
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GNUtooakari, thanks11:36
x_SYN.... how i can get glass desktop during rotating Cube ?!11:36
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ladydoorw8tah: Sorry, I'm not actually super-familiar with vim, so that's honestly as far as I can get you.11:36
SyncroGlass desktop?11:36
akarix_: #ubuntu-effects for questions about beryl :)11:36
Syncroohhh11:36
SyncroLike see through11:36
chattrdyrne srry for my questions i m new in ubuntu  so what about this "synamtic package manager"11:36
x_what ?!11:36
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w8tahladydoor: no worries -- ive used it a lot in gentoo - -but only for text editing -- i know it can do tons -- just never bothered to learn it all11:37
myheartfordebianchattr: Just the greatest thing ever11:37
Music_Shuffle!synaptic | chattr11:37
ubotuchattr: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto11:37
BaD_CrCAsk A Ninja has all the answers11:37
SyncroAll right well i understand11:37
SyncroHold on11:37
dyrnechattr: it is basically a front end to apt-get11:37
x_if i can find out so why i should asking here ?! :-(11:37
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chattrhm i used always: sudo aptitude11:38
ladydoorw8tah: I mean, it's good to know the basics.11:38
chattrso its the same then or?11:38
Syncrook11:38
w8tahagreed - thanks again11:38
Syncrox_11:38
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bust3dhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=_9oPwjN3AmA&mode=related&search=11:38
bust3dHILARIOUS11:38
SyncroYou have Beryl running11:38
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dyrnechattr: pretty much. you can use aptitude or apt-get or synaptic for gui goodness11:38
SyncroOpen the manager11:38
TJ1hey  whats weird is that my router sees the wireless laptop11:38
BaD_CrCeww aptitude was like the first thing i messed with back in the 1.2.13 days of debian.11:38
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BaD_CrCnever again11:38
x_SYN... yeah ?!11:38
TJ1and it has an ip address on the routers config page11:38
chattrdyrne ah ok nice11:39
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SyncroOn the top click Desktop11:39
SyncroThen clcik Desktop Cube11:39
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x_UBUNTU-EFFECTS is empty :-(11:39
Syncrothen click Transperancy Cube11:39
SyncroAnd check it11:39
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Archoniam/leave11:39
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Marleneyup im new to linux in general how do i set up my connection to my home net11:39
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SyncroIt should work11:40
bruenigwhat an idiot11:40
x_SYN ... thanks ... let me try   :-)11:40
TJ1and it has the dns server # and my cable domain name there too11:40
SyncroAlright11:40
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ladydoorw8tah: np.11:40
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wepeelhi all, whe I log in, I keep getting a message that the file .dmrc in my $HOME directory isn't owned by me etc...anyone familiar with this and can help me?11:40
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TJ1but under the host tab on the laptop it says local host ip address is 127.0.0.111:41
NETWizzAnybody know where to find himem.sys11:41
NETWizzfor msdos 6.2211:41
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ompaulNETWizz, ask in ##windows11:41
akariwepeel: sudo chown <yourname>:<yourname> *.dmrc11:41
bruenigwepeel, you need to do ctrl + alt + f1 to get to a virtual console, and then login and do sudo chown username:username -R /home/username11:41
BaD_CrCNETWizz: http://opendos.org/11:41
BaD_CrCor http://freedos.com/11:41
TJ1hmmm so no one can help me?  i dont know if I missed the reply before11:42
bruenigwepeel, then ctrl + alt + f7 to get back to login11:42
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leon_pegg_my ubuntu desktop http://boxstor.com/image/laptop-003.png hoe cool11:42
x_SYN ... thanks friend   :-) that worked   :-D11:42
SyncroHaha, no prob11:42
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bruenigTJ1, has iwlist eth1 scan produced anything for you yet?11:42
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x_SYN ... how sometimes your ID is yello ?!11:42
SyncroI have no idea11:42
akarix_: Always yellow with your name in the line11:42
SyncroIts gray for me11:42
wepeelbruenig: do I have to log out now and then log back in?11:42
x_AKAR.. yeah ... but how ?!11:42
akarix_11:43
SyncroOr its probably becuase im partly color bind11:43
Syncroblind*11:43
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Syncrohahaha11:43
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bruenigwepeel, no just switch to the ctrl + alt + f7 and login normally11:43
x_:-o11:43
TJ1no  eth1 says No scan results11:43
Sivikfwhat kind of card TJ1?11:43
SyncroAnyway, i need help with Enemy Territory cause i have No Sound11:43
x_akari ... if i wanna write 2 u with yellow what should i do ?!11:43
Marlenelike i said im new to linux so if someone could give alittle help as to how to get the connection to my network to work i would apreciate it11:43
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BaD_CrCwhy does my taskbar show a "Launching HTTP Cache Cleaner" like every 30 minutes? I don't see a cron job for it.11:43
wepeelbruenig: right, so If I'm already at f7 I need to log out and then back in for this to work11:43
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akarix_: You just did by writing "akari" in the line11:44
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wepeelbrb11:44
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akariFYI: Sun Java Enterprise Studio is incompatible with Beryl :((11:44
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TJ1broadcom11:44
myheartfordebianI liked the USS Akira class more then Intrepid11:44
apocalypticahi11:44
x_Syncro .... i am new in linux ... ;-)11:44
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ladydoorx_: if you type out the whole nick when "talking" to someone, it draws their attention to it.11:44
ladydoorx_: which is why it's polite in busy channels to completely type out a nick when responding to someone...it helps them see when someone's saying something. (most irc clients have tab-completion) :-)11:44
SyncroI am kinda still new at Linux11:44
Jack_SparrowJack_Sparrow: Testing to see if it will highlight my name to myself11:45
Anlarakari: that is Beryls fault and you can fix it using one command line option to sun studio11:45
BaD_CrCeww Broadcom chip. Linksys hardware?11:45
Syncrox_11:45
wepeelHurm, no go11:45
x_i have some problem about screen resolution ... who can help me ?!11:45
SyncroOh11:45
akariAnlar: Which CL?11:45
SyncroHaha11:45
SyncroI probably can11:45
TJ1d link pre-n router11:45
myheartfordebianx_, I just fixed a problem like that, what's up?11:45
apocalypticacould someone help me with fglrx and my ati driver?11:45
bruenigwepeel, I am confused you said you couldn't login because of the error and then asked whether you should log out11:45
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bruenigthat threw me11:45
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Jack_SparrowMarlene: Where are you at with your networking problem..11:45
wepeelbruenig: sorry, I'm not beintg precise11:45
x_i using Nvidia 7900 GTX and i have just 1024 now ... how i can change it to 1680 ?!11:46
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wepeelbruenig,  when I log in, i get a message that $HOME/.dmrc is being ignored11:46
TJ1what is weird.. the wireless connection worked in Ubuntu running off the cd but not after I install Ubuntu11:46
SyncroWhateves, i need help with Enemy Territory if someone out there knows how to fix the sound cause there in none what so ever11:46
Marleneive got it connected but it will not alow me to browse11:46
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Anlarakari: add AWT_TOOLKIT=MToolkit in front of the command.. like with netbeans it's "AWT_TOOLKIT=MToolkit netbeans"11:46
sidenetcan someone help me with my wireless card?11:46
wepeelbruenig, and I'm supposed to chmod 644 that file, which I did11:46
apocalypticai have a new ati card but fglrx still isnt working, i am running feisty11:46
Anlarakari: sun studio is just netbeans that is rebranded11:46
NETWizzUm11:46
akarix_: For non-standard resolution you need to edit your xorg.conf file and add it there11:46
NETWizzThat is molested Windows11:46
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Jack_SparrowMarlene: What type of netwrork card do you have11:46
wepeelbruenig, also, my $HOME permissions are all screwed up11:46
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bruenigwepeel, ok, well what does ls -l ~/.dmrc show you for ownership and permissions11:46
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bruenigwepeel, did you use sudo for graphical apps?11:46
NETWizzWhy would someone molest windows to make it look like ubuntu11:47
x_akari ... i'm not pro ... can u tell me what can i do ?!11:47
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Marlenei dont know off the top of my head and im not by my machine11:47
sidenet.j #ubuntu-device11:47
sidenetwoops11:47
wepeelbruenig, -rw-r--r-- 1 username username11:47
x_akari  ... my Nvidia card is active now in restricted hardware11:47
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wepeelbruenig, sudo for graphical apps?11:47
Marleneim sure its just your standard network easy ethernet card11:47
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Jack_SparrowMarlene: In order to help us help you, we need to know as much as possible about your hardware, wired, wireless, cable, dsl, router, version of ubuntu..11:48
BaD_CrCblah, i'll be back.11:48
akariAnlar: Trying... thanks in advance11:48
bruenigwepeel, that is what generally causes these problems, unless you just went crazy on permissions yourself chowning stuff11:48
Jack_SparrowMarlene: There is no such thing11:48
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wepeelbruenig: that latter I might have done trying to restrict other users access to my files. How can I restore all the correct permissions to my home folder (defaults)?11:49
akarix_: Type "sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and look at the bottom. You will see... :)11:49
Marleneaight i have a cisco bridge going to a smc router then i have a cable coming out of the router to the machine11:49
NETWizzThere is a school district in Texas running Ubuntu11:49
Jack_SparrowMarlene: Sorry, not trying to be cute or curt...11:49
akarix_: I had to add my 1440x900, too11:49
bruenigwepeel, you just have to change them yourself, there is no restore to default permissions11:49
winowerproblemsmy user settings window opens but then freezes and no users show up does anybody have and suggestions in order to fix it??11:49
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Jack_SparrowMarlene: Great start, we have a wired system11:49
x_akari ... and then?!11:49
Marlenemy other machine with ms vista are working11:49
chattri installed my php5 but how i configure it and start it then on ubuntu?11:49
JowiMarlene, if you can enter an ip address in the browser like 216.239.59.99 (you should reach google) then it is a DNS problem.11:49
wepeelbruenig: ok, so chmod *** -R /home/username?11:49
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akariAnlar: Thanks alot it's working great :)11:50
sidenetmy wireless network card (linksys wmp54g ver. 1) is not working with ubuntu 7.04.  can someone point me in the direction of a tutorial to get it to work?  i've already tried ubuntu forums with no luck.11:50
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winowerproblemsons in order to fix it?11:50
Jack_SparrowMarlene: Is it internal on a desktop, pcmcia on a laptop, usb off a port..?11:50
bruenigwepeel, no that is a bad idea because different files require different permissions, for instance any directories you have require 755, but most files will require 644 or lower11:50
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akariAnlar: I cannot program without my cube ^.^11:50
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SyncroSomeone call me?11:50
Marleneoff a port on a desktop11:50
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Anlarakari: I guess you can put it into your .bashrc, just export BLAHBLAH="whatever"11:50
SyncroI got ET sound working11:51
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wepeelbruenig, hurm, can you think of another way to do it other than file by file?11:51
SyncroWOT11:51
SyncroWOOT*11:51
akariAnlar: I just put it in jstudio.sh :)11:51
x_akari ... that is all : # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)11:51
x_#11:51
x_# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using11:51
x_# values from the debconf database.11:51
x_#11:51
x_# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf(5) manual page.11:51
x_# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)11:51
x_#11:51
x_# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*11:51
bruenig!ops11:51
Anlarakari: that's fine as well :)11:51
x_# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg11:51
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok11:51
x_# package.11:51
bruenigwe can't handle a full xorg11:51
x_#11:51
x_# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated11:51
Jack_SparrowMarlene: So it is a usb network adapter...  so it should be easy to find out the make and model..11:51
ariczgg x_11:51
x_# again, run the following command:11:51
ompauls11:51
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chattri installed my php5 but how i configure it and start it then on ubuntu?11:51
Syncrolol x_11:51
winowerproblemswhen my user settings window appears, all it does is show a window but no user names, or anything and when i press the x it says something about not responding11:51
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Jack_SparrowMarlene: It will probably end up being a broadcom BCM43xx chipset but we still need to check11:52
wepeelbruenig, what I pasted above rw -r -r is 644, right?11:52
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sidenetHelp!11:52
akarichattr: You type "php <yourscript.php>" if you want to add it to your apache config you just do nothing :)11:52
bruenigwepeel, you can switch all directories to 755 with one command, find ~ -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;11:52
bruenigwepeel, yes11:52
x_i back ... who shoot me out of chatroom ?!?!?!?!?!?!11:52
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sidenetyou were spamming :(11:53
akarix_: You were spamming11:53
x_:-o11:53
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Jowix_, use pastebin (see the topic of the channel)11:53
chattrakari i want the server to test my local php scripts11:53
InsomniaCityHi! can I install a package from something more recent than edgy on an edgy box?11:53
x_i just did what u said  :-(11:53
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bruenigx_, we'd rather not have an entire xorg.conf pasted11:53
Music_Shuffle!pastebin | x_11:53
ubotux_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:53
Arsodas boot11:53
LinuxKidhow can  install gmake on ubuntu11:53
Arsowoops, wrong channel ,sorry11:53
winowerproblemsdoes anybody know how to fix my user settings window it never shows any user names. and i don't know what to do to allow me to change the user settings11:53
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ladydoor!apt-pin11:53
bruenigInsomniaCity, it is not a good idea11:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-pin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:53
x_oh .. ok11:53
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wepeelbruenig, ok, did it. let me log out then log back in and see what it says11:53
akarichattr: I didn't have to do anything to do so. Just install apache2, php and synaptic should automagically add all necessary (default) configuration11:53
Marleneaight well like i said im not at my machine, just to clairify i have to manually set the network up, because i know they are taking to eack other the activity light is working11:53
sidenet!help11:54
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chattrok11:54
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x_i just have a problem with screen resolution ... that's all :-(11:54
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:54
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erUSUL!fixres | x_11:54
ubotux_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:54
JowiInsomniaCity, yes, by compiling the source for example. it is not recommended to install packages for other versions of ubuntu though (conflicts may arise)11:54
wepeelbruenig, that worked...I think my $HOME was permissioned incorrectly. Thanks for the help!11:54
akarichattr: Make sure you have apache2, php5 and libapache2-mod-php5 installed11:54
Marlenex_ just have your auto config the monitor11:54
Jack_SparrowMarlene: We have great walk throughs depending on your hardware.. it is not a big deal11:54
LinuxKidhow can install gmake on ubuntu11:54
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gooseGreetings, Could some one please help me with a Bluetooth issue on ubuntu, could they please pm me, any one?11:54
bruenigwepeel, really? that doesn't seem like it would have fixed permissions on stuff like .dmrc but if it works it works I guess11:55
CubeyJowi, hmmm, now the BIOS is saying the drive linux is on is failing (according to SMART)11:55
ladydoorInsomniaCity: I believe it's technically possible using apt-pinning if you want to stick with the repositories. If not, you can always compile a package from source.11:55
erUSULLinuxKid: gmake == gnumake? is default in linux (some bsd's install gnu make as gmake)11:55
chattrakari it is installed11:55
wepeelbruenig, yeah, but my .dmrc was at 644 as I pasted. The $HOME wasn't owned exclusively by this username, apparently11:55
JowiCubey, that does not sound good :/11:55
erUSULLinuxKid: just use make11:56
Marlenewhere are these walk through located11:56
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x_how ?! my resolution is 1024 now ... 7900 GTX  can come op to 1680 ... but i haven't in menu :-(11:56
LinuxKidi must compile whit gmake11:56
bruenigwepeel, I guess that makes sense if $HOME wasn't 755 then you would have some issues for sure11:56
Jack_SparrowMarlene: If you do have a BCM43xx chipset here is a useful page... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517411:56
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wepeelbruenig, anyway, I'm still a little confused as to how that worked as well. Now all the files look to be permed correctly, and of course all dirs at 75511:56
erUSULx_: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:56
wepeelbruenig, i THINK THAT WAS THE CASE11:56
wepeeloops11:56
Marleneaight thanks i gota jet i got an install11:56
Marlenelata11:56
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gooseHey, could some one please help me with a bluetooth issue?11:56
x_erUSUL  ... thanks dude ... i'll check it  :-)11:56
wepeelbruenig, sometimes I get tab and caps wrong, sorry :)11:57
JowiCubey, backup your home dir and get yourself a new drive (just a recommendation ;))11:57
bruenigwepeel, well run find ~ -type d, you sill see that it lists all the directories in your home directory recursively, the -exec chmod 755 {} just tell it to to chmod all of that stuff, find is a very good tool11:57
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Hrvhi...im having some problems with my freshly installed ubuntu. When i log in i get a error message saying the gnome settings deamon could not be loaded and a code saying: Process /usr/lib/control-center/gnome-settings-daemon received signal 1111:57
Hrvdoes someone know whats its all about11:57
wibis it possible to configure the behaviour of the window list at all?11:57
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wepeelbruenig, yeah, I've never used find before with -type it's pretty slick11:57
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bruenigwepeel, type f for files11:57
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akarichattr: Surf to http://localhost/ and see if apache works. Then put a test.php file in that www directory: "<php? phpinfo(); ?>" and surf to http://localhost/test.php11:58
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CubeyJowi, already did backup the important stuff to me, the few emails i got in the past few days. hm. now it's not detecting at all. i guess that's why linux was messing up, the HD was dying.linux sure didn't detect it though11:58
wepeelbruenig, it's actually a great tip. we have solaris at the office and I can envision using this a lot there. too11:58
n00dleHas anyone here had hibernate (suspend-to-disk) stop working suddenly?11:58
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Nembie563Can anyone help me install Tor?11:58
Cubeyi guess it just completely died all of a sudden. it's not detecting at all now11:59
chattrakari yup i saw now11:59
JowiCubey, I tyink there is a smart notifier available...11:59
chattrit works11:59
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ladydoorNembie563: I'm pretty sure there's a tor irc channel somewhere or other...you should try checking their website for howtos and contact info.11:59
Jowi!info smart-notifier11:59
ubotusmart-notifier: graphical hard disk health status notifier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.28-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 10 kB, installed size 176 kB11:59
bruenigwepeel, very nice to set uniform permissions recursively without having to worry about the fact that directories require executable perms while files don't, I use it a lot when copying stuff of of my thumbdrive which is fat16 and gives a bunch of weird permissions to files when copied over11:59
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chattrdoes the server automatically starts on startup of ubuntu?11:59
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bruenigchattr, what server?12:00
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akario.O I want a graphical hard disk health status notifier!!12:00
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wepeelbruenig, indeed, I generally use chmod recursively then fix whatever I need to based on file type, this is way way easier12:00
chattrbruenig apache server12:00
Nembie563Thanks ladydoor I'll check it out12:00
T-ConnectCan someone help me out on installing this game please? http://www.allacrost.org/ Here is my report. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45662012:00
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ladydoorNembie563: np12:00
JowiCubey, just because of that i will install the smart-notifier in case I get what you got12:00
erUSULNembie563: 'sudo apt-get install tor' ??12:00
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T-ConnectE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)12:00
T-ConnectE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?12:00
bruenigT-Connect, close synaptic12:01
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winowerproblemscan anybody help me please? my user settings window won't load up, when it appears its empty and its just the frame12:01
T-ConnectI did12:01

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