[12:01] <SmokeyD|afk> NickPugh, /msg NickServ REGISTER <password>
[12:01] <stuart_> i did a clean format on my primary HD, but had some data on my secondary HD that i wanted to keep
[12:01] <stuart_> if i formatted my secondary HD as well, i still can't mount my secondary HD
[12:02] <bokken> to all: is the fat saved on the primary drive in windows or saved on the drive it is on? if anyone knows
[12:02] <bokken> fat in windows
[12:03] <rockets> What plugin do I need to play real player video with gstreamer
[12:03] <Cyber_Stalker> stuart_:  when you say secondary hard drive do you mean a physically seperate one... or just a partition of it?
[12:03] <ninix> hi, i need some help. I have my kubuntu OS totally installed, configured with all app i need. But i want the exact thing on my Desktop pc. is it possible to do something for copy hd to hd, or it is incompatible ?
[12:03] <puppe> /quite: "going to bed"
[12:04] <rjek> ninix: You can copy the packages list across, and then copy your home directory.
[12:04] <d2leo> vox754: Is there anyway to take storage off of my ext3 partition and add it onto my ntfs one?
[12:04] <pi3> it's the hour of ubuntu, 7:04
[12:04] <DelawareAEA> hello.  If the ubuntu repositories have an old version of the program I want, do I have to uninstall the version I have before compiling the latest from source?
[12:05] <aschedinn> Can anyone think of a reason why none of my SSL based stuff is working?  psftp, https, putty, ssh..connects to localhost and 1 other computer on the network...it hangs on debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
[12:05] <rjek> ninix: But just copying the hard disc sector by sector is likely to not work unless the hardware concerning storage is identical.
[12:05] <ninix> rjek: but it not just that. i configured a lot of software in /etc, like samba etc..
[12:05] <rjek> ninix: Copy those files too :)
[12:05] <vox754> d2leo, there should be by resizing. You need to create unallocated space and resize the other partition. But I've never done it.
[12:05] <ninix> lol i surely don't remember all these files
[12:06] <stuart_> cyber; test
[12:06] <stuart_> hm, no idea how to use nick completion
[12:06] <Cyber_Stalker> ninix: just copy the whole of etc? :D
[12:06] <d2leo> vox754: yeah i did do that, but the unallocated storage goes underneath my ext3 partition and im unable to add anything onto my ntfs.
[12:06] <stuart_> Cyber_Stalker, a physically separate one
[12:06] <Cyber_Stalker> stuart_:  use tab :D
[12:06] <ninix> Cyber_Stalker: i don't think it a good idea.
[12:06] <ninix> rjek: and what did u mean with copy packages list ?
[12:06] <vox754> d2leo, I think you can move the partitions...
[12:06] <stuart_> and it's quite weird that it shoudl disappear just like that
[12:07] <rjek> ninix: Precisely what I said - you can get a list of installed packages out of dpkg, and then apply that list on another machine so they have the same software installed.
[12:07] <sico> i can't apt-get upgrade :(
[12:07] <rjek> THen it's just a matter of copying your data and config over.
[12:07] <sico> and firefox won't run
[12:07] <Cyber_Stalker> hmm stuart_ ok weird, you shouldnt have formatted it by mistake... i cant really help you past that unfortunatly, is it possible that the hard drive has died?? :D
[12:07] <sico> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/update-manager-core_1%3a0.59.23_i386.deb: failed in buffer_read(fd)
[12:07] <ninix> rjek: emm i gonna check
[12:07] <stuart_> well i wouldn't mind formatting it accidentally. it's just that it's weird i can't mount my newly formatted HD, or can't find it
[12:08] <orehon> When I start my computer the fsck start to check the HD and find an error and I get a shell... I just skip it and everything works fine! Who can I run the fsck to fix the possible problem and stop to check it on every boot!
[12:08] <stuart_> couldn't be, it was working fine before i installed ubuntu
[12:08] <rjek> Right, nobody's answered my question, so I'm buggering off. :)
[12:08] <goofy> i need help with my desk top it wont load
[12:08] <car_wat> look that Starting Tomcat
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'NOLOGIN_STR' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_HZ' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MAX_LEN' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'CLOSE_SESSIONS' (notify administrator)
[12:08] <rockets> car_wat, pastebin.com
[12:08] <scorp123> !pastebin | car_wat
[12:08] <ubotu> car_wat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:08] <Cyber_Stalker> !pastebin | car_wat
[12:08] <rockets> lol
[12:08] <rockets> now we're flooding the channel with pastebin info
[12:08] <Cyber_Stalker> lol
[12:09] <scorp123> rockets: yeah, sounds like fun :)
[12:09] <sico> anyone have any idea why i can't apt-get upgrade anymore???
[12:09] <_`XeOn_> still having same problem
[12:09] <_`XeOn_> update wont work
[12:09] <orehon> When I start my computer the fsck start to check the HD and find an error and I get a shell... I just skip it and everything works fine! How can I run the fsck to fix the possible problem and stop to check it on every boot!
[12:09] <rockets> sico, a bit more detail?
[12:09] <bokken> stu: my guess, with no real proof, is that it could be trying to work on a windows system but you have ubuntu installed. correct me if i am wrong. or just no fat...
[12:09] <orbisvicis_> !pastebin
[12:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:09] <sico> rockets: i don't know what to say? i pasted the error
[12:09] <car_wat> Starting Tomcat
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'NOLOGIN_STR' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_HZ' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MAX_LEN' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'CLOSE_SESSIONS' (notify administrator)
[12:09] <Cyber_Stalker> aahhh ffs
[12:10] <car_wat> after upgrating ubuntu
[12:10] <stuart_> hm. what partitions does ubuntu recognize? ntfs or fat
[12:10] <Cyber_Stalker> some one sort this guy out
[12:10] <ofir> hello all
[12:10] <rockets> sico,  ah. yeah. i have no idea what that means :-D
[12:10] <car_wat> I tried to start tamcat
[12:10] <sico> :( me either :(
[12:10] <car_wat> and saw thar error
[12:10] <car_wat> Starting Tomcat
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'NOLOGIN_STR' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_HZ' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <vox754> !ops
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MAX_LEN' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <scorp123> car_wat: are you actually reading what people tell you???
[12:10] <NigelS> car_wat: don't flood the channel, use pastebin for logs and errors
[12:10] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <car_wat> configuration error - unknown item 'CLOSE_SESSIONS' (notify administrator)
[12:10] <Cyber_Stalker> stuart_:  i can see my ntfs partitions in ubuntu... i havnt really tried to access them yet altho i cannot mount them
[12:10] <tomaw> car_wat: ?
[12:10] <stuart_> man then where did my hd go :(
[12:10] <webstar88> hello all
[12:10] <Cyber_Stalker> thanks ompaul
[12:11] <stuart_> had some pretty nice porn on there
[12:11] <Cyber_Stalker> that was fetting really annoying :D
[12:11] <scorp123> tomaw: thank you
[12:11] <tomaw> scorp123: it wasn't me :)
[12:11] <scorp123> ompaul: thank you
[12:11] <Cyber_Stalker> was ompaul :D
[12:11] <scorp123> tomaw: thank you  (for correcting me ... LOL)
[12:11] <tomaw> hehe
[12:12] <metalfan> hi
[12:12] <gcarrillo> hi all
[12:12] <webstar88> installed 7.04 all OK except can't record sound, tried different sound setting, no luck, can anyone help?
[12:12] <metalfan> how do i restart the x server without reboot?
[12:12] <goofy> anyone know why my desktop wontload after login
[12:12] <gcarrillo> is there a map program available for ubuntu, that can be used offline?
[12:12] <genii> metalfan:  ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:12] <gcarrillo> metalfan: ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:12] <kitche> metalfan: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop if your on ubuntu xdm if your on xubuntu and kdm for kubuntu
[12:12] <NigelS> metalfan: logging out and logging in will do this.  From a command line with the server down for example /etc/init.d/gdm restart if gdm is your login manager
[12:13] <metalfan> goofy, post /var/log/Xorg.0.log on a pastebin service....paste the link here
[12:13] <kitche> ctrl-alt-backsapce can be bad
[12:13] <metalfan> thx
[12:13] <NigelS> gcarrillo: that's a hard kill of the server, not a good idea, it's not meant for just exiting X
[12:13] <gcarrillo> metalfan: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:13] <gcarrillo> how bout that way
[12:13] <metalfan> gcarrillo, text consoles seems to be disabled in latest ubuntu?
[12:14] <dissection> How do I set read/write persmission for a .conf file
[12:14] <NigelS> dissection: for whom?
[12:14] <dissection> NigelS: I want to set it so I don't have to type sudo each time, to edit proxychains.conf
[12:14] <metalfan> dissection, man chown
[12:14] <gcarrillo> i died
[12:14] <NigelS> dissection: then sudo chmod a+rw to set read/write for everyone
[12:15] <metalfan> gcarrillo, text consoles seems to be disabled in latest ubuntu?
[12:15] <gcarrillo> the VTs are working for me
[12:15] <gcarrillo> although it just logged me out :P
[12:15] <sunken> can someone explain this in dmesg: 'hda-intel: Invalid position buffer, using LPIB read method instead.'
[12:15] <genii> dissection: not chown. chmod
[12:15] <metalfan> NigelS, maybe give rights for his user is better?
[12:15] <Arclite_> Okay, I'm kind of a desktop Ubuntu newb, but I've been using it as a media server for a while. My Macbook Pro (running OS X) is in the shop. I need to work on some Ruby stuff. Does anyone have suggestions for a decent "code" text editor, preferably one targeted for Ruby dev?
[12:15] <metalfan> gcarrillo, oh....sry...
[12:15] <genii> dissection: But that begs the question why you want to change the default permissions
[12:15] <gcarrillo> np :)
[12:15] <goofy> metalfan http://pastebin.com/d69da30bd
[12:16] <scorp123> sunken: sounds like your sound card has minor troubles. Unless you experience serious problems (e.g. weird sounds, or no sound at all) I think you can safely ignore that.
[12:16] <cdiddy> hi
[12:16] <dissection> genii: Why, is it a bad idea? Its only for one file
[12:16] <gcarrillo> hi
[12:16] <NigelS> metalfan: maybe, maybe not; I'm not going to make decisions for him :)
[12:16] <genii> dissection: I never said it was a bad idea. I'm wondering what is it that you require this
[12:16] <sunken> scorp123: the only thing that bugs me is that if I plug in headphones, there is no sound in them
[12:16] <gcarrillo> anybody know of map programs that need you to be online?
[12:16] <NigelS> dissection: incidentally if you are in a terminal and type sudo -s then you'll get a root shell and don't need to preface everything with sudo from then on
[12:16] <gcarrillo> just curious
[12:16] <cdiddy> anybody have any experience configuring dual monitors with dual video cards on ubuntu?
[12:17] <cdiddy> ive tried everything
[12:17] <orehon> How can I skip fsck from system boot ?!
[12:17] <gcarrillo> i mean that *don't* need u to be online
[12:17] <metalfan> goofy, i guess x starts fine, but the last line looks interesting:  AUDIT: Wed Jul 18 18:04:41 2007: 6254 X: client 1 rejected from local host (uid 1000)
[12:17] <metalfan> goofy, whats your users uid?
[12:17] <scorp123> sunken: Intel HDA cards are still very very new .... could be that they don't work yet 100% everywhere
[12:17] <dissection> genii: I have to edit proxychains.conf about 15 times a day so hate having to type the password all the time
[12:17] <scorp123> sunken: I have one of those in my HP dv2108ea laptop ... and it's only since a few weeks that it works there.
[12:17] <gcarrillo> i have intel hda, mine seems ok
[12:18] <sunken> scorp123: ok, will there be any new realeases of ubuntu that will 'fix' my problem?
[12:18] <scorp123> sunken: the problem here is Intel
[12:18] <goofy>  meralfan uid?
[12:18] <dissection> NigelS: Is it the same as "su"?
[12:18] <metalfan> dissection, open a root terminal in gnome
[12:18] <genii> dissection: Just edit instead the sudoers file not to require your user to need to put in password every time. man sudoers will have proper syntax
[12:18] <sunken> scorp123: ok, they fight open system still?!
[12:18] <scorp123> sunken: unless they don't release the full specs the ALSA people can't write new sound drivers, and the people at Canonical can't put them into Ubuntu ...
[12:19] <Cyber_Stalker> !upgrade
[12:19] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:19] <gcarrillo> good answer
[12:19] <NigelS> dissection: same effect basically; it just launches a shell
[12:19] <sunken> scorp123: ok, thank you for your time
[12:19] <Arclite_> Okay, I'm kind of a desktop Ubuntu newb, but I've been using it as a media server for a while. My Macbook Pro (running OS X) is in the shop. I need to work on some Ruby stuff. Does anyone have suggestions for a decent "code" text editor, preferably one targeted for Ruby dev (syntax highlighting a plus)?>
[12:19] <cdiddy> Can anybody here help me?
[12:19] <ubutom> !question
[12:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:20] <NigelS> Arclite_: I personally find kate to be nice though I haven't done ruby - I would be surprised if it didn't have syntax highlighting for it
[12:20] <dissection> I was wondering, when you use the prefer sudo, it basically asks for your user password, and then gives you administrator rights. Isn't that a security risk? I never understood that
[12:20] <scorp123> sunken: something coming to my mind ...
[12:20] <dissection> *prefix
[12:20] <scorp123> sunken: your machine ... is that a laptop?
[12:20] <goofy> metal fan wht do you mean by uid
[12:20] <cdiddy> i have tried and tried and searched and searched, and all I want to do is be able to setup two monitors with two video cards
[12:21] <sunken> scorp123: yes it is, sorry for not telling you that
[12:21] <cdiddy> I havent had any luck
[12:21] <vslash> ca roule ?
[12:21] <sunken> scorp123: it has 1 output and 1 input and pcspeakers
[12:21] <scorp123> sunken: take a close look at the volume controls ... Chances are that it has additional channels like "PCM2" which are set to the minimum. Turning that one up helped a lot in my case.
[12:22] <NigelS> dissection: well the question isn't that exactly since there's the alternative of an enabled root account to look into.  The only question then is, is it worse,better or the same sec wise as having a seperate root account
[12:22] <sunken> scorp123: will check again
[12:22] <metalfan> im trying to get rid of the "Composite" xorg extension......in the xorg extension section i have:  Option         "Composite" "Disable"       but after login:    xdpyinfo |grep Comp   still displays Composite?
[12:22] <NigelS> dissection: when ubuntu was first released the debate happened and it was felt that disabling root was fine and using sudo was the way forward
[12:22] <likwidtek> Trying to get Desktop Effects to run on my machine.  I have a VT8378 S3 UniChrome Integrated Video.  When I enable desktop effects I get a solid white screen.  Anyone want to lend some advise?
[12:22] <likwidtek> I'm running Feisty
[12:23] <kbrooks> metalfan, ctrl+alt+bksp buttons
[12:23] <metalfan> kbrooks, for what?
[12:23] <kbrooks> metalfan, restart X11
[12:23] <NigelS> dissection: having 1 pw makes it more likely, for one thing, that people won't do what they so often do and make a really easy root or user pw because they don't like remembering two.  They also choose only slight variants to set them apart. Using sudo also avoids people, nearly by default, leaving themselves logged in
[12:23] <metalfan> already did
[12:25] <kbrooks> dissection, also, both ways have exactly one weakness
[12:25] <dissection> NigelS: And is it a problem to stay logged in? Because if someone were to hack the system and get the user pass, he'd get admin access anyway using sudo
[12:26] <samwize> does anyone know the md5sum hash for xubuntu 7.04 alternate cd?
[12:26] <Cyber_Stalker> hey tiax, i could just use " gksu "update-manager -c" "
[12:26] <NigelS> dissection: if someone hacks in why is it easier to get the user pw than the root?
[12:27] <NigelS> dissection: if you can brute force the user hash you can do the same for the root one unless the root one is more complex.  The idea is that you don't use a simple pw for your user acct
[12:27] <NemesisD> im about to partition a disk for ubuntu with ext3, can anyone argue that XFS or ReiserFS or JFS are significantly better?
[12:28] <NemesisD> im currently just doing this as a test on an old 20gb drive but i plan to use this computer as a larger backup file server if that's relevant
[12:28] <kbrooks> NemesisD, dooon't even look at reiserfs
[12:28] <MilitantPotato> Why isn't Gdesklets working, any ideas?
[12:28] <NemesisD> kbrooks, hehe whys that
[12:28] <NemesisD> i heard it was good
[12:28] <PriceChild> !best | NemesisD
[12:28] <ubotu> NemesisD: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[12:28] <dissection> NigelS: No I'm saying.. Say the root account is disabled (for security?).. So if someone hacks into the PC and gets the username, and pass, he could simply use sudo using the same pass and get admin access. Or if a user has enabled root access and stays logged in, I think someone who hacks into the system has root access again. So aren't both the same?
[12:29] <kbrooks> NemesisD, the founder got imprisoned for allegedly kidnapping
[12:29] <samwize> why isnt the xubuntu 7.04 alternate cd hash listed?
[12:29] <Cyber_Stalker> is there any one here that could help me access my NTFS HD... i can see it in nautilus but i get an error about mounting it, what would be the best/easyest way to access it
[12:29] <NemesisD> kbrooks, that doesn't mean his work is bad
[12:29] <sunken> my headphone jack does not work for me
[12:29] <kitche> samwize: it is
[12:30] <MilitantPotato> oh yea ignore the newbie :P
[12:30] <genii> dissection: Only trusted users are supposed to have sudo rights on the computer. So only 1 or a few ppl's actual user accounts could conceivable be used to hijack your box
[12:30] <kbrooks> MilitantPotato, um
[12:30] <samwize> kitche: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes -  only xubuntu 6.10 hash is there
[12:30] <MilitantPotato> :D
[12:30] <bjames> stupid question:  can tar take standard input:
[12:30] <kbrooks> MilitantPotato, clarify not working
[12:30] <genii> dissection: These trusted users would also use root privelege only when needed.
[12:30] <bjames> bunzip2 -c "${1}" > tar -xf;;
[12:31] <kbrooks> bjames, don't
[12:31] <Cyber_Stalker> !NTFS
[12:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:31] <MilitantPotato> It opens a window, with nothing in it, after one min or so it closes
[12:31] <dissection> genii: Ah so you could create user accounts for whom sudo is disabled? Okay, that makes sense.
[12:31] <NigelS> dissection: nope.  That wouldn't be how it works.  The danger of being left logged in is that you either are vulnerable to someone with physical access performing unauthed ops or that you launch a process with root privs that introduces an attack vector since an exploit targetting it could then run with root privs.  So they aren't equivalent nope.  Can you think of an instance though where someone could hack into a computer and get the user account where they coul
[12:31] <kbrooks> bjames, tar -xf $1
[12:31] <kbrooks> bjames, do that
[12:31] <kitche> samwize: you don't look hard do you :) http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/MD5SUMS
[12:31] <kbrooks> bjames, xf does automatic detection
[12:31] <blizzow> anyone know what packages should be installed to get xen running in gutsy?
[12:32] <bjames> kbrooks: what will -xf auto-decompress?
[12:32] <genii> dissection: Only the first user created on an ubuntu install has sudo rights by default. All others afterwards must specifically be added to the list of trusted users.
[12:32] <kbrooks> bjames, bz2 and gz, dunno about others
[12:32] <bjames> .tar.gz, .tgz, ..tar.bz, tbz,
[12:32] <bjames> including the shorthand?
[12:32] <kbrooks> bjames, .tar.gz == .tgz
[12:32] <samwize> kitche: i would never had been able to find that
[12:32] <bjames> I know
[12:32] <bjames> hence "the shorthand"
[12:33] <kitche> samwize: it's right on the download site for xubuntu
[12:33] <kbrooks> bjames, yes including that
[12:33] <ninix> is there a way to REDOWNLOAD all installed packages ?
[12:33] <ninix> not reinstall ?
[12:33] <juano__> can someone tell me why the repos are so slow ?
[12:33] <bjames> damn - I just spent a while creating a script that will look at the file type given, check for the right decompression program, then run it
[12:33] <d4rkmonkey> !gutsy
[12:33] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[12:33] <Orraj> do coiled Ethernet cables loss connectivity? Ive been so.
[12:33] <d4rkmonkey> !ipod
[12:33] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[12:34] <vox754> ninix, yes. It is a pain. The repositories are there feel free to redownload everything.
[12:34] <dissection> NigelS, genii: Okay, so in your opinion, which is better. (1) Having root account disabled and using as normal user with sudo (2) Having root account enabled with a complex password of say 20 characters and be responsible enough to log yourself always, and disable sudo
[12:34] <d4rkmonkey> !rockbox
[12:34] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[12:34] <ninix> vox754: but with a command line ?
[12:34] <kitche> bjames: with the newest version of gnu tar it autodetects the compression
[12:34] <Mohd> Guys, I have a problem here. I've downloaded the "Updates" and now I am about to  install them, but i got this wierd message "Another synaptic is running"
[12:34] <d4rkmonkey> bye!
[12:34] <dissection> *logout that is
[12:34] <Mohd> Any one know a solution? I am new to Linux.
[12:34] <dissection> Mohd: You need to close your synaptic package manager
[12:35] <Mohd> Dissesction : I dont have it open in the first place?
[12:35] <genii> dissection: Consider, doing an oopsie like rm -Rf /* while in root
[12:35] <bjames> kitche: I will test what files it can handle, then remove the excess from the script
[12:35] <pike_> Mohd: try sudo pkill synaptic
[12:35] <bjames> cheers
[12:35] <vox754> ninix, I would guess you should use "wget" read the manual page "man wget"
[12:35] <NigelS> dissection: I'll answer that if you answer my question :)
[12:35] <Orraj> Mohd the add/remove window is also a synaptic
[12:35] <dissection> NigelS: What question? Your text was too long, and your last sentence was broken ;[
[12:35] <NigelS> dissection: it's no use positing usage cases that don't reflect reality I would also add
[12:35] <nikin> is there a program like moviemaker on windows in ubuntu? i want to do some work on my screen capture videos... witch are in ogg format (theora+vorbis)
[12:36] <genii> dissection: sudo is basically a tool to protect us from ourselves, not so much from the outside
[12:36] <ninix> lol... nvm then. i got 1440 packs.
[12:36] <MilitantPotato> Reinstalled GDesklets and still it opens a window with nothing in it, and stops responding
[12:36] <estudiantes_> with sudo you can protect from everybody
[12:36] <dissection> Hmm
[12:36] <likwidtek> how do I change my video driver?
[12:37] <kitche> MilitantPotato: did you install some widgets along with it?
[12:37] <MilitantPotato> System>admin>restricted driver manager
[12:37] <dusk> anyone know why fglrx freezes after a few minutes in feisty?
[12:37] <kitche> likwidtek: change your video driver to what?
[12:37] <MilitantPotato> kitche: no
[12:38] <NigelS> dissection: it shouldn't be too long
[12:38] <NigelS> dissection: Can you think of an instance though where someone could hack into a computer and get the user account where they couldn't also get the root one since tghey are both stored in the same (root owned) file
[12:38] <dissection> NigelS: It ended "Can you think of an instance though where someone could hack into a computer and  get the user account where they coul
[12:38] <kitche> MilitantPotato: well that's most likely why
[12:38] <nikin> is there a good video editor for OGG (theora+vorbis) video files in ubuntu?
[12:38] <NigelS> dissection: was what I said
[12:38] <MilitantPotato> it did install lots of applets on its own
[12:38] <dissection> Hrm
[12:38] <kitche> MilitantPotato: yeah but I think you have to enable it
[12:38] <likwidtek> well I think I am using the vesa driver.  I have an s3 unichrome integrated driver
[12:39] <MilitantPotato> Ok, so where do I start?
[12:39] <likwidtek> and I am trying to get "desktop Effects" to work
[12:39] <nikin> almost every other movieformat will also do :D trancoding is not a problem :D
[12:39] <kitche> likwidtek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is debian/ubuntu's way
[12:39] <estudiantes_> with sudo you can protect your computer from a whole network
[12:39] <Perun> is there somewhere a xen kernel >2.6.20 repository for feisty? (unsupported or supported)
[12:39] <kitche> likwidtek: and vesa won't work with desktop effects
[12:39] <dusk> is there a fix for fglrx freezes?
[12:39] <maki> hello
[12:39] <likwidtek> yeah, so sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will hook me up?  :)
[12:39] <genii> Perun: good question, I haven't seen one yet
[12:39] <dissection> NigelS: I normally use 25 character passwords for something *really* important though. So can they both be hacked the same way if someone used the same method he could/would to obtain my user pass?
[12:40] <maki> where can i find the latest gutsy gibon dev iso image ?
[12:40] <samwize> is SAO best for .iso burning?
[12:40] <metalfan> whats the ubuntu version to gentoos "rc-update" ?
[12:40] <vox754> !gutsy
[12:40] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[12:40] <dusk> !fglrx
[12:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:40] <likwidtek> kitche I have a bunch to choose from.  Which do i choose?
[12:40] <genii> metalfan sudo apt-get update
[12:40] <metalfan> thx
[12:41] <metalfan> genii, h...wait
[12:41] <kitche> likwidtek: for the vesa driver or for the unichrome one?
[12:41] <NigelS> dissection: well the question is one of search-time within the search space; there's a level of complexity in a pw which takes it beyond the search-time that would be feasible for an attacker and as such anything above that level of complexity is arguably superfluous from an attack point of view
[12:41] <sergiol> hello
[12:41] <Orraj> anyone want to explain drivers to me? I also saw them as independent software that played mediator between the computer and the new hardware, but in linux I don't see a easy install for drivers.
[12:41] <metalfan> genii, why do you try to help if you dont have a clue?
[12:41] <likwidtek> the integrated video is s3 unichrome
[12:41] <sergiol> can i ask a simple non ubuntu question here?
[12:41] <metalfan> genii, rc-update is the runlevel editor in gentoo
[12:41] <likwidtek> and I see a listing in there for s3
[12:41] <lousygarua> when pressing Alt+F2, does gnome runs a certain 'launcher app' or is it a built in command? can i run the same dialog from command line?
[12:41] <hamza> any one knows how i can view tv on ubuntu...my tvcard is already installed
[12:42] <sergiol> is there any Spanish here?
[12:42] <pike_> lousygarua: its a gnome thing
[12:42] <hamza> any one knows how i can view tv on ubuntu...my tvcard is already installed
[12:42] <lousygarua> pike_: bummer :) thanks
[12:42] <kitche> likwidtek: you can use s3 but there is a unichrome driver not sure if it's installed by default or not
[12:42] <MilitantPotato> Hamz there's a program for that
[12:42] <nickrud> Orraj, the short answer is that all known drivers are already in the kernel, you don't have to install drivers. And the ones that aren't aren't easy to install
[12:42] <dissection> NigelS: And btw I was referring to those who could steal remotely, not someone who has physical access
[12:42] <pike_> lousygarua: what are you trying to do it is easy enough to do from command line
[12:42] <likwidtek> kitche s3 didnt work how do I get unichrome installed?
[12:42] <likwidtek> VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video
[12:43] <genii> metalfan: Ah, OK, sorry. Gentoo is not my usual thing. For runlevels I would normally just use init then
[12:43] <hamza> any one knows how i can view tv on ubuntu...my tvcard is already installed
[12:43] <NigelS> dissection: Yes I know, what I said was referring to that
[12:43] <MilitantPotato> Weird
[12:43] <MilitantPotato> I wonder why it's not working..
[12:43] <nickrud> !es | sergiol
[12:43] <ubotu> sergiol: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:43] <lousygarua> pike_: actually what i wanted to do is add a menu item to fluxbox for "run application", without opening a shell in fluxbox
[12:43] <kitche> hamza: install a tv tuner application
[12:43] <vox754> likwidtek, you need the "via" driver. It is included.
[12:43] <Orraj> nickrud so if it doesn't plug and play....im out of luck
[12:43] <genii> metalfan You want certain tty to always run at certain runlevels ?
[12:44] <hamza> kitche i have tvtime but nothing happens on that ...it opens with a blue screen and then closes itself
[12:44] <sergiol> i have a computer with spanish keyboard and i want to get answer to this question: where can i write the tilde character with no character below it?
[12:44] <nickrud> Orraj, not entirely, but in general. What do you need a driver for? (and please don't say winmodem :)
[12:44] <sergiol> i only have  key marked on my keyboard
[12:45] <Jay123> Hello I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 today and I am having MAJOR! booting problems can someone please help me?!
[12:45] <neil-> Jay123, define major booting problems?
[12:45] <likwidtek> vox754 thanks
[12:45] <neil-> Give details, and someone will help
[12:45] <Jay123> OK
[12:45] <hamzzzz> kitche i have tvtime but nothing happens on that ...it opens with a blue screen and then closes itself
[12:45] <Orraj> nickrud: its for a Ethernet card. and it said the disk had the linux drivers on it but its been out smarting me
[12:45] <MilitantPotato> Is anyone familure with desklets?
[12:45] <Jay123> I put the live CD in then waited for it to load.... then clicked install waited for it to install the whole OS then restarted once it finished now it says its missing hard drive
[12:46] <vox754> likwidtek, what motherboard is that? You have to beware that there are problems with that driver and 3D.
[12:46] <carl_> How can I repair "broken packages"?
[12:46] <carl_> "Could not apply changes!
[12:46] <nickrud> Orraj, what kind of ethernet card? Linux supports a huge number of them
[12:46] <Jay123> It will only boot if the CD is in the drive
[12:46] <vecina> How do you put a password on an archive file?
[12:46] <Jay123> Otherwise after my BIOS boots it says no operating system
[12:46] <MilitantPotato> Jay did you install it to the drive?
[12:47] <carl_> Easy Ubuntu reports error: "Fix broken packages first."
[12:47] <vox754> likwidtek, here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-via/+bug/43154
[12:47] <MilitantPotato> There's a shortcut on your desktop
[12:47] <Orraj> netgear
[12:47] <dissection> NigelS: Sorry if I seem to be coming back to the same question. But so far as far as the explaination I've received goes, the problem with creating a root account is the user's own irresponsibility, i.e., using a simple password, more or less the same from the user pass, or typing a command that could delete important files, or staying logged in as root, etc. So is it basically the user's behaviour that could result in compromising the system's security or
[12:47] <Jay123> I installed it to my hard drive...
[12:47] <Orraj> nickrud netgear
[12:47] <samwize> what write method does infrarecorder require for burning an ISO?
[12:47] <sabgenton> do u need to have joliet suport for some cd to work?
[12:47] <[Neurotic] > Heya everyone - is there any reason anyone can think of that would cause a network dropout when using vncviewer to access another ubuntu machine over a wireless network? (and it's just this machine, any other machine is fine)
[12:47] <sabgenton> or do u just  get shorten file names
[12:48] <Jay123> I partitioned my whole hard drive which had XP on to load Ubuntu with it
[12:48] <nickrud> Orraj, if you type lspci in a terminal, it'll give you a line about your ethernet card. paste *just that one line* here
[12:48] <Wolfpaws> hai. Have a question; how do you disable xscreensaver?
[12:48] <carl_> apt-get fix-broken-packages ???
[12:48] <nickrud> carl_, apt-get install -f      first
[12:48] <Jay123> so does anybody know how to fix my issue?
[12:48] <Cubey> meh, how do you kill a process that won't die? aMule froze just trying to set it up for use and the process is in a 'zombie' state and won't end/die when killed
[12:48] <NigelS> dissection: well to return to the question I originally asked; the issue is whether a seperate root pw is better, the same or worse than having 1 acct and using sudo.  It's not about one mechanism being flawed, it's about whether, in the final analysis, there is any actual difference
[12:48] <carl_>  nickrud Thanks
[12:49] <Orraj> nickrud okay might take me a second
[12:49] <Cubey> I tried 'kill' as well via console with it's PID
[12:49] <nickrud> Orraj, np, I'll be around for about an hour
[12:49] <dissection> NigelS: Is it possible to set a different password for sudo commands?
[12:49] <NigelS> dissection: so it might be the user's behaviour, it might not be, but I don't think it's the determinant factor in the design decision
[12:49] <Cubey> nor can I reopen it due to the stuck process
[12:49] <dissection> NigelS: I think its using the same password thats bothering me :D
[12:49] <vox754> Jay123, that is a documented issue you can find in web pages. The short remedies is to unplug all hard drives, reset the BIOS memory CMOS. And plug the drives setting a different mode for them in the BIOS.
[12:49] <dusk> i remember seeing an experimental alternative to fglrx, but forget the name
[12:50] <clawtros> avivo
[12:50] <NigelS> dissection: sudo invokes an account so it is not a seperate function in that sense and so, afaik, you can't distinguish nope
[12:50] <Jay123> i looked all over for the answer
[12:50] <Cyber_Stalker> !mp3
[12:50] <elmo40> WinAmp not running
[12:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:50] <crippler> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?
[12:50] <crippler> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?
[12:50] <zun> hi
[12:50] <NigelS> dissection: Yes, I see that, but as I was saying above, is it really any less/more secure?  In what situation could you gain one password and not the other unless security was already lax?
[12:51] <NigelS> dissection: if it was poor then the kind of user who sets a weak pw would, if presented with 2 accts they must think of pw for set weak ones, poss weaker, in both cases
[12:51] <Jay123> vox754, your saying dissect my computer and reset the bios (how) then replug it back in?
[12:51] <clawtros> crippler, assuming the driver works - sometimes the mixer volume defaults to zero
[12:51] <vox754> dissection, one of the advantages of using sudo is that you do not have to remember a different password. Most probably you can change that behavior but you may need to hack into the documentation yourself.
[12:51] <NigelS> dissection: if the user sets strong pws then they will set a strong pw in both case and because of the hash-computaton time, the search-time for a search space of 8 characters will be large beyond feasible calculation in almost all cases
[12:52] <crippler> clawtros, yes i realize that. it's not. is there a terminal command I can use to reinstall the sound driver or fix it?
[12:52] <MilitantPotato> :(
[12:52] <Cyber_Stalker> "you do not have the decoder required to play this file you may need to install the necisarry plugins" and those plugins would be?
[12:52] <MilitantPotato> Cyber
[12:52] <MilitantPotato> searc XMMS
[12:52] <MilitantPotato> search*
[12:52] <Jay123> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 now when I try to boot off the hard drive it says it's missing an operating system does anybody know where I can get a solution to this problem?
[12:53] <MilitantPotato> Jay, install Ubuntu to the OS :)
[12:53] <Cubey> How do you kill a process that won't die? aMule froze just trying to set it up for use and the process is in a 'zombie' state and won't end/die when killed.
[12:53] <dissection> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZBA0SKmQy8 <-- lol
[12:53] <vox754> Jay123, yes. The way to reset the BIOS varies among models of motherboards, it could be a button, or you may need to short circuit a few pins wit a jumper cap. This should be explained in your motherboard manual. Or you may browse your model on the web.
[12:53] <nickrud> Orraj, be back shortly
[12:53] <NigelS> Jay123: describe your hard disk setup to me please
[12:53] <MilitantPotato> also, make the linux partition /
[12:53] <crippler> lol
[12:53] <Jay123> its just a 20 gig all partitioned for ubuntu
[12:53] <_6StringKng_> your hoeless
[12:53] <_6StringKng_> hopeless*
[12:53] <NigelS> vox754: why on earth would he want to do that?
[12:53] <crippler> prolly right 6
[12:53] <likwidtek> DUDE
[12:53] <NigelS> Jay123: there's just the one drive?
[12:53] <_6StringKng_> haha, you'll get it
[12:53] <vox754> NigelS, well, it worked for me and for others...
[12:53] <crippler> clawtros, yes i realize that. it's not. is there a terminal command I can use to reinstall the sound driver or fix it?
[12:53] <likwidtek> this is way complicated
[12:53] <Cyber_Stalker> MilitantPotato: should i sudo apt-get xmms?
[12:53] <Jay123> YES
[12:53] <MilitantPotato> Cyber, you can
[12:53] <crippler> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?
[12:54] <MilitantPotato> or go to Applications then Add/Remove
[12:54] <Cyber_Stalker> ok
[12:54] <likwidtek> isn't there an easier way to change my driver to the VIA instead of VESA without having to go through the entire xorg configurator?
[12:54] <MilitantPotato> type XMMS into the search bar
[12:54] <Cyber_Stalker> is xmms a player or the necissary plugins?
[12:54] <MilitantPotato> player
[12:54] <MilitantPotato> It's basically winamp
[12:54] <likwidtek> isnt there a conf file I can just change to VIA
[12:54] <Cyber_Stalker> grr
[12:54] <Cyber_Stalker> doing and upgrade lol cant access synaptic
[12:54] <MilitantPotato> bummer :(
[12:55] <zun> aptitude works?
[12:55] <MilitantPotato> Can anyone help me with desklets
[12:55] <MilitantPotato> Please? :)
[12:55] <Cyber_Stalker> u know how many times i have ctrl - c'ed this upgrade lol
[12:55] <Jay123> I'm just going to download XP again and use it because im not going to risk bricking my computer messing with the bios just to get a stupid operating system to work
[12:55] <NigelS> vox754: it just seems like an odd solution
[12:55] <vox754> likwidtek, it is called "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" very easy, just change one line.
[12:55] <zun> what's wrong with your box jay?
[12:55] <MilitantPotato> Jay are you sure you partitioned the HD right?
[12:55] <neil-> likwidtek, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:55] <Jay123> I only have 1 HD
[12:55] <MilitantPotato> If you didn't set the main drive bootable your bios won't load it
[12:55] <Jay123> it says theres not operating system
[12:56] <NigelS> vox754: what's the exact bug here?
[12:56] <MilitantPotato> 1 HD yea
[12:56] <crippler> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?
[12:56] <MilitantPotato> but you need at least two partitions
[12:56] <Jay123> why
[12:56] <MilitantPotato> Main linux, and a swap
[12:56] <MilitantPotato> have you read the setup instructions?
[12:56] <vox754> NigelS, I know. But when you are desperate you take those decisions and then wonder why you wasted and entire day doing other LBA stuff.
[12:56] <Cyber_Stalker> !dual boot
[12:56] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:56] <NigelS> Jay123: did you let it auto-partition?
[12:56] <Jay123> I just did what the live CD told me
[12:56] <likwidtek> lol nm xorg.conf
[12:56] <likwidtek> heh
[12:56] <Jay123> yea
[12:56] <likwidtek> yay thanks guys
[12:56] <Jay123> I partitioned the whole entire drive
[12:57] <AaronMT> Hi, how can I update Firefox to 2.0.0.5?
[12:57] <twocarlo_> lol
[12:57] <MilitantPotato> So I'm SOL on getting help with desklets?
[12:57] <NigelS> Jay123: You've checked the BIOS to make sure it now wants to boot from the HD and not just the CD?
[12:57] <Jay123> yes
[12:57] <twocarlo_> well jay ubuntu needs a linux partition and swap partition
[12:57] <Jay123> HD first floppy second cd drive third
[12:58] <crippler> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Dell deminson 4600 and the sound will now work. Any suggestions?
[12:58] <Jay123> why didnt the live cd take care of that
[12:58] <likwidtek> ok!  I think its running the via driver now.  I no longer get a white screen when i try to enable desktop effects
[12:58] <NigelS> twocarlo_: it should at least find GRUB before it realises there's no swap and in any event linux can use a swap file it's just a crap way of doing it
[12:58] <likwidtek> now it says "cannot enable desktop effects"  hahaha
[12:58] <likwidtek> ARGH!
[12:58] <genii> Jay123: When you do from a terminal off the livecd: sudo fdisk -l     can you pastebin the result of that command?
[12:58] <likwidtek> any ideas?
[12:58] <crimsun> crippler: I need your `lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/card*/codec*` pastebinned.
[12:58] <Orraj> nickrud: need help with some complications....
[12:58] <NigelS> Jay123: it almost certainly did unless you overrode it
[12:58] <twocarlo_> thanks NigelS
[12:58] <Jay123> I can't do anything except get into the live cd
[12:59] <Jay123> so if the partitioned arent the problem then what is
[12:59] <MilitantPotato> When I try to enable desktop effects I get this message: "The Composite extension is not available"
[12:59] <genii> Jay123: grub (bootloader) may not have installed properly
[12:59] <Jay123> whats the solution?
[12:59] <NigelS> Jay123: your BIOS is complaining that it can't find a boot loader, this is odd, and we need more info to work out what's going on, following genii's instructions to begin with would be good
[12:59] <metalfan> MilitantPotato, its should be described in the howto you read
[12:59] <Cyber_Stalker> MilitantPotato: have you tried #ubuntu-effects
[12:59] <twocarlo_> you can use gparted
[01:00] <Cyber_Stalker> ?/j #ubuntu-effects
[01:00] <twocarlo_> jay123:you can use gparted
[01:00] <NigelS> Jay123: normallt you see that error if, for example, the BIOS can't find a bootable drive - i,e, it is set to boot off floppy/CD but there is no such disc availab le
[01:00] <vox754> likwidtek, I told you to look up for the related bug. The VIA module will not work with most 3D, and that includes desktop effects, because the module is not perfect. I suggest you buy a separate video card if you want visual goodies. Blame VIA.
[01:00] <Jay123> I don't even know how to get into the terminal i've never used linux before
[01:00] <MilitantPotato> Yea cyber, no-one answered.
[01:00] <genii> Jay123: Other possibles: grub installed to hda# partition instead of just hda master boot record.
[01:00] <crippler> crimsun, can you message me on AIM @ crippler3421 or here
[01:00] <Cyber_Stalker> lol just keep trying :D
[01:00] <NigelS> Jay123: we will tell you
[01:00] <Cyber_Stalker> they do eventually
[01:00] <NigelS> Jay123: are you in linux atm with the live cd?
[01:00] <crimsun> crippler: why?
[01:00] <nickrud> Orraj, what's that?
[01:00] <crippler> nvm
[01:00] <Jay123> no im on xp on another computer
[01:01] <lousygarua> does thunderbird + gmail + smtp works on ubuntu? i can only  get pop to work and i've tried many online guides. is it a bug? or am i missing someting?
[01:01] <Orraj> nickrud i did the cmd u told me to do and the ethernet info isnt right
[01:01] <NemesisD> great, i just installed ubuntu on this machine using the alt install disc, the installation went through without any problems, and now when i boot, grub loads and then the screen goes black and just hangs there
[01:01] <nickrud> Orraj, it's what the card itself reports
[01:02] <syntaxx> i have a problem in my cups server.. when someone pauses the printer on their client all other queue is paused anyone know how to fix that?
[01:02] <martyn> could someone please tell me how to upgrade firefox 2.0.0.4 to 2.0.0.5?
[01:02] <NigelS> Jay123:if you could boot into linux on the affected machine we can see if there's info on it that will help
[01:02] <Orraj> nickrud why would a netear card say realtek?
[01:02] <metalfan> NemesisD, press esc wgen grub starts and choose safe mode, then you can rectify the situation
[01:02] <nickrud> Orraj, probably because that's the chip it uses
[01:02] <NemesisD> wow nm it just finished booting
[01:02] <NemesisD> it really shouldn't take 5 minutes to boot given the hardware
[01:02] <Jay123> Can you tell me a general solution to my problem that will fix it, because it takes forever for that live cd to load
[01:02] <NemesisD> unless its the hard drive, its quite old
[01:02] <AaronMT> Hi, how can I update Firefox to 2.0.0.5?
[01:03] <likwidtek> vox754 oh i am sorry I didn't read that
[01:03] <vox754> NigelS, he cannot boot under any circumstances. After the POST the single error "not Operating system found" or something appears. This is a known problem.
[01:03] <vox754> likwidtek, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-via/+bug/43154
[01:03] <likwidtek> yeah I will prolly get another vid card
[01:03] <likwidtek> thanks man
[01:03] <zun> it's in firefox's help menu ... help -> check for updates
[01:03] <twocarlo_> jay123: you have to buy another cdrom
[01:03] <Jay123> no no no
[01:03] <AaronMT> Zun, it's greyed out
[01:03] <Orraj> nickrud okay makes sense  : ethernet controller: realtek semiconductor CD. Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139 C+
[01:03] <zun> try help -> about, which version is it
[01:04] <crimsun> AaronMT: we disable it, because we handle updates separately.
[01:04] <AaronMT> Zun, 2.0.0.4
[01:04] <twocarlo_> jay123:well it happened to me too, thats what i did
[01:04] <Orraj> nickrud (rev 10)
[01:04] <NigelS> vox754: can you link to some particular bug please then? Because OS not found is an extremely generic problem and means simply that, so what's the actual bug with the installer and GRUB that's causing that?
[01:04] <Jay123> The cdrom works fine it boots to it
[01:05] <zun> AaronMT, are you on a liveCD or any other read-only variant?
[01:05] <nickrud> Orraj, ok, now type lsmod | grep 8139too  ; you should get back a line or two
[01:05] <AaronMT> crimsun, what is the proper method?
[01:05] <vox754> NigelS, it is not an Ubuntu bug. It seems to be like a BIOS, motherboard, static electricity bug. Let me browse.
[01:05] <twocarlo_> jay123:can you enumerate your problem please
[01:05] <zun> aha
[01:05] <AaronMT> zun: no, normal regular install
[01:05] <crimsun> AaronMT: wait for it to appear in $release-security
[01:05] <kitche> vox754: OS not found means the bios can not find an OS to boot
[01:05] <Jay123> I installed 7.04 and now it says theres no operating system found
[01:05] <NigelS> vox754: sounds like hocus pocus to me; the people resetting their BIOS had prob left the target HD out of the boot list and when they reset their BIOS it defaulted to including it
[01:06] <NigelS> vox754: they they ascribe the reset to fixing it
[01:06] <martyn> it's possible to download Firefox 2.0.0.5 but how do you upgrade
[01:06] <NigelS> Jay123: boot into linux and connect to IRC from there please, then we can try and work out what's going on;  OS not found implies the bootloader wasn't installed properly or the BIOS isn't looking for it correctly
[01:07] <kbrosnan> martyn: wait for ubuntu to ship the update themselves
[01:07] <Orraj> nickrud 8139too 27648 0 ( line break ) mii 6528 2 8139cp,8139too
[01:07] <Jay123> if i boot into the live cd will you help me
[01:07] <NigelS> Jay123: the people here will of course try and help, that's what the channel is for
[01:08] <Orraj> nickrud can i ask what we are looking at :D?
[01:08] <genii> work calls, afk 5-7 mins
[01:08] <nickrud> Orraj, ok, your ethernet card is recognized, and has loaded the driver: 8139too . So, if you're not getting internet, you have other problems
[01:08] <Jay123> alright ill be back hopefully in like 5
[01:08] <vox754> NigelS, yes, some people do not need to reset the BIOS, some just need to detect again the Hard drive. That is my point. But you are right, we are arguing about the same thing.
[01:08] <Jay123> brb
[01:08] <zun> does anyone have experience getting apache2 and mono to work?
[01:08] <martyn> kbrosnan: thanks
[01:08] <zun> I checked a number of guides, I got it installed fine but can't get asp files to execute
[01:09] <_6StringKng_> so I"m retarded, how do I update to the latest firefox, lol
[01:09] <_6StringKng_> 2.0.0.5
[01:09] <Orraj> okay well thanks for helping me out, I feel like ive learned a bit about drivers. btw is there any reason that the terminal app would restart the comp?
[01:09] <nickrud> Orraj, that lsmod command? it shows all the modules that the kernel has loaded, a lot of those are drivers for hardware you have.
[01:09] <Cyber_Stalker> whats with this person and using diffrent nicks asking how to update firefox...
[01:10] <vox754> _6StringKng_, maybe enabling backports.
[01:10] <blizzow> Anyone had luck installing Xen with gutsy?
[01:10] <_6StringKng_> ok, and how would I do that
[01:10] <vox754> !backports
[01:10] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[01:11] <nickrud> _6StringKng_, you have two choices: waiting for the update (apparently it's a security one, so it shouldn't be long) or installing the one from mozilla.
[01:11] <Scrippie> hello
[01:11] <Absenth> When I enable Beryl, or Compiz as my window manager using the Beryl-manager I lose all of my window borders.  I have the Emerald Theme Manager installed, but it doesn't apper to be loading.  Any suggestions on where I should start?
[01:12] <conorkirkpatrick> Absenth: Your problem was the reason I stopped using Beryl :(
[01:12] <_6StringKng_> ok
[01:13] <nickrud> Absenth, I had that problem intermittently (I quit beryl for other reasons) there's a right click menu option reload window decorator that always got borders back for me.
[01:13] <Orraj> anyone know the major company that gave the option of ordering a computer w/ ubuntu preinstalled?
[01:13] <NigelS> Orraj: dell has kinda
[01:14] <vox754> Orraj, Dell. Visit ubuntuforums.org for more information.
[01:14] <Absenth> nickrud: yeah, somewhere I think there's a config problem, because that doesn't seem to work for me.
[01:14] <genii> Those dell ubuntu boxes are only available right now in US
[01:14] <NigelS> yup, hence the kinda
[01:14] <NigelS> and the story about them seems to change every week
[01:15] <NigelS> "they're cheaper, they're more expensive"
[01:15] <NigelS> so who knows :) but Michael Dell uses ubuntu
[01:16] <reed026> You could always but the walmart special and install Ubuntu yourself
[01:16] <reed026> buy*
[01:17] <zun> does anyone have experience setting up apache2 and mod-mono? :)
[01:17] <reed026> I do with Apache2 but no mod-mono
[01:17] <zun> darn
[01:17] <zun> I can't get asp to execute...
[01:17] <reed026> what are you trying to do with mod-mono?
[01:17] <zun> set up an asp dev server
[01:18] <zun> but the .aspx won't execute, of course it doesn't work out of the box, I didn't expect it to but I don't know exactly what else to check
[01:18] <g0dd3ss> hai
[01:18] <reed026> zun, maybe this will help : http://www.mono-project.com/Mod_mono#Configuring_Mod_Mono
[01:18] <g0dd3ss> can someoone plz recommend me a good gnutella client for ubuntu
[01:19] <zun> hmm I've read a nubmer of'em
[01:19] <StavmaN> hello, i have a question about ubuntu 7.04 and NTFS. would it slow me down to store on my files on an NTFS partition?
[01:19] <jrib> g0dd3ss: gtk-gnutella is in the universe repository
[01:19] <soothsayer> Anyone know why bchunk on my .bin and .cue file (VCD) gives two isos?
[01:19] <zun> ah if you're an apache2 buff, I added a virtual directory and no sign of it...
[01:19] <nickrud> g0dd3ss, gtk-gnutella
[01:19] <PriceChild> g0dd3ss, "apt-cache search gnutella" for a list
[01:19] <jrib> StavmaN: what kind of files?  like documents and media?
[01:19] <StavmaN> exactly
[01:19] <ShackJack> StavmaN: Not appreciably, no...
[01:20] <StavmaN> and would i be able to install linux application on NTFS?
[01:20] <StavmaN> or am i going too far on that one
[01:20] <reed026> hmm I guess I need to pull out my server from the closet and mess around with this.
[01:20] <Jay123> Hey I'm back NigelS
[01:20] <Ek0nomik> is anyone familiar with SSHFS?
[01:20] <reed026> I don't have a need for ASP though.. php has always treated me well zun :)(
[01:20] <SochBat> Hello Ubuntites
[01:20] <radioman> hey
[01:21] <Ek0nomik> apparently something went wrong with mounting the remote on the local... because this is the permission of my directory:
[01:21] <Ek0nomik> ?---------  ? ?    ?       ?                ? surreal-fs
[01:21] <jvai> hey ppls
[01:21] <Jay123> Hey im logged into my Ubuntu 7.04 live cd NigelS you there?
[01:21] <zun> fortunate for you :) I have a developer that is very fluent with ASP and we want a thing done as soon as possible, so ASP it is... unfortunately :)
[01:21] <jrib> StavmaN: the last one sounds like a bad idea because linux relies on permissions a lot and ntfs won't keep track of that
[01:21] <zun> and then again I wonder how scalable PHP is...
[01:21] <ShackJack> StavmaN: No you'd want your linux apps to be in root with the rest of the stuff and keep your data separate - heck I only have 8GB set aside for ubuntu and apps and  I have plenty of rooms
[01:21] <zun> we're still choosing the database
[01:21] <vox754> StavmaN, I think yes, you could install applications in NTFS but you may mess up permissions and stuff. Also your programs won't magically work on Windows if that is what you are thinking.
[01:22] <StavmaN> vox, i wasn't thinking that
[01:22] <Cyber_Stalker> im bored lol
[01:22] <StavmaN> thank's for the answers guys, you were very helpful
[01:22] <SochBat> anyone know what makes games now display?
[01:22] <reed026> With a database you have a lot of different choices, really depends on how much RAM you have zun
[01:22] <NigelS> Jay123: hi. ok so if you go to apps->accessories->terminal and type fdisk -l
[01:22] <Jay123> k hang on
[01:23] <SochBat> not*
[01:23] <zun> you have any experience with Oracle XE?
[01:23] <zun> i couldn't find any benchmarks, the admin module is very slow
[01:23] <reed026> Heh no, I use SQLlite mainly
[01:23] <zun> but oracle is oracle... the limitations of XE are ok for starters, not worried about that.
[01:23] <vox754> Jay123, NigelS http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321626 this applies not only for Windows.
[01:23] <Jay123> fdisk -l or fdisk -1
[01:23] <zun> why sqllite?
[01:23] <Mbantua> g'day... has anyone successfully installed freeimage on ubuntu?
[01:24] <Jay123> alright I typed fdisk -1 what info do you need?
[01:24] <reed026> I have an older machine and SQL Lite does everything I need it to for development
[01:24] <NigelS> Jay123: l for list
[01:24] <Cyber_heh> !pastebin | Jay123
[01:24] <ubotu> Jay123: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:25] <StavmaN> what size would you recommend making my ubuntu partition? i'm currently on livecd, and it pretty much convinced me
[01:25] <NigelS> Jay123: it should print out a table of partition info and yes, put it on pastebin
[01:25] <zun> good enough, ahh... the beauty of minimalistic software... works on the hardware you just happen to have lying around :)
[01:25] <Cyber_heh> Jay123: once you have done that command go to pastebing and paste the results
[01:25] <Cyber_heh> pastebin*
[01:25] <Jay123> no fdisk -l doesnt do anythhing
[01:25] <ShackJack> Jay123: that's sudo fdisk -l
[01:25] <Cyber_heh> :)
[01:25] <reed026> Yes. That's why I love Ubuntu. Ubuntu Server + Apache + Sql lite = happy developer
[01:25] <Jay123> Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes
[01:25] <Jay123> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders
[01:25] <Jay123> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[01:25] <Jay123>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:25] <Jay123> /dev/hda1   *           1        2327    18691596   83  Linux
[01:25] <Jay123> /dev/hda2            2328        2434      859477+   5  Extended
[01:25] <Jay123> /dev/hda5            2328        2434      859446   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[01:25] <reed026> I have a 97 Gateway E3000 that runs that with 128mb of ram
[01:26] <reed026> !flood
[01:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:26] <ShackJack> !pastebin | Jay123
[01:26] <ubotu> Jay123: please see above
[01:26] <zun> hehe
[01:26] <Jay123> i dont know wwhat that means
[01:26] <Cyber_heh> Jay123:  we told you to use pastebin
[01:26] <Jay123> how
[01:26] <Cyber_heh> its so that you dont paste lots of stuff
[01:26] <komodin> !pastebin
[01:26] <NigelS> zun: google's attitude to oracle is interesting; they prefer to be the master of their own destiny :)
[01:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:26] <StavmaN> /q ShackJack
[01:26] <Jay123> !pastebin
[01:26] <Cyber_heh> go to that link...
[01:27] <Cyber_heh> and then u will see what its about :D
[01:27] <reed026> that's why google loves sudo too, right?
[01:27] <reed026> :)
[01:27] <zun> with a budget like that, I'd prefer that too... and looking at the way things might go or the power they wield, google might just become the master of lots of people's destinies :) (search censorship etc)
[01:28] <NigelS> Jay123: in any event back in the terminal type mkdir /tmp/hd && mount /dev/hda1 && cd /tmp/hd
[01:28] <Mbantua> If I need to find freeImage packages, where is a list I could search in?
[01:29] <Jay123> IT says "mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:29] <Jay123> "
[01:29] <NigelS> zun: at lugradio the other week chris dibona made some interesting comments about it; basically buying oracle woulod mean disclosing loads more info than they want, i.e # of CPUs/seats and it costs a fortune; mysql is great
[01:29] <NigelS> Jay123: I missed a bit sorry
[01:30] <ShackJack> Mbantua: aptitude search freeimage ?
[01:30] <Jay123> huh?
[01:30] <NigelS> Jay123:  mount /dev/hda1 /tmp/hd && cd /tmp/hd
[01:30] <zun> Nigel5, ah disclosing that much info, i see that pov.
[01:30] <NigelS> anyone here at guadec atm?
[01:30] <wdklwk> ola
[01:30] <Mbantua> ShackJack: tried that... didn't bring anything... I thought I could look somewhere else :)
[01:31] <Jay123> OK, now it says "mkdir: cannot create directory `/tmp/hd': File exists"
[01:31] <marc> hello world :)
[01:31] <NigelS> Jay123: you weren;t meant to repeat that bit
[01:32] <Jay123> oh ok hang on ill type just that bit
[01:32] <ShackJack> !hi | marc
[01:32] <ubotu> marc: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:32] <SochBat> hello Marc
[01:33] <Jay123> bash: /dev/hda1/tmp/hd: Not a directory
[01:33] <Jay123> bash: /dev/hda1/tmp/hd: Not a directory
[01:33] <wdklwk> join ubuntu-br
[01:33] <StavmaN> what size is it recommend making an ubuntu partition?
[01:33] <nikin> is there a make command hitch can use multiple CPU-s?
[01:33] <ctothej> how can i find the mount point of a particular hard drive (that is mounted already) from the command line?
[01:33] <Cyber_heh> StavmaN:  not smaller then around 3 or 4 gig
[01:33] <NigelS> Jay123: did you copy and paste what I wrote or type it out?
[01:33] <Cyber_heh> that just for like the install tho
[01:33] <ShackJack> wdklwk: I think you want /join #ubuntu-br
[01:33] <NigelS> ctothej: type mount
[01:34] <Cyber_heh> will have min space after that :D
[01:34] <Jay123> i typed it out
[01:34] <StavmaN> Cyber_heh: is 20gb too much?
[01:34] <Cyber_heh> nah
[01:34] <Cyber_heh> this machine im on now is 20gb
[01:34] <d2leo> I was trying to restore a system backup I created, and at the end it says qzip: stdin: unexpected end of file.  does this mean my backup was corrupt?
[01:34] <NigelS> Jay123: you typed something wrong; type cd /tmp/hd now
[01:34] <Cyber_heh> and i have no issues currently :D
[01:34] <carl_> I can't seem to run ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[01:34] <Cyber_heh> lots of space for upgrade to run :D
[01:34] <ctothej> NigelS: thanks bro. couldnt have been easier than that
[01:34] <marc> give here a swiss support channel :D ?
[01:34] <Cyber_heh> !swiss
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <carl_> it says  command not found
[01:35] <Jay123> "No such file or directory"
[01:35] <ShackJack> StavmaN: I have 10GB and a bunch of stuff and still have 6GB available..
[01:35] <SlimeyPete> I imagine the closest you'll find to swiss is french or german ;)
[01:35] <StavmaN> 10 or 20, that's the question :)
[01:35] <SlimeyPete> !swiss
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <reed026> zun maybe if you asked your question on mono-mod's support mailing list they could help you better than we could. http://www.mono-project.com/Need_Help
[01:35] <marc> rofl :D
[01:36] <marc> my english is in beta ... i can't understand :D
[01:36] <Jay123> NigelS, will you private message me so I can read more clearly..
[01:36] <SlimeyPete> !french
[01:36] <StavmaN> ShackJack: what's your total HD space?
[01:36] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:36] <SlimeyPete> !german
[01:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:36] <ShackJack> marc: Join #ubuntu-ch
[01:36] <SlimeyPete> ah, there is one?
[01:36] <Cyber_heh> !nvidia
[01:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:37] <ShackJack> SlimeyPete: Yep, not very full, though...
[01:37] <reed026> I wish they had forums, but I couldn't find anything when searching google. However, you should be sure to give them every thing you can specifically when describing your problems.
[01:37] <marc> wow nice .. thank you shackjack
[01:37] <igorgue> Hi all I'm trying to get my laptop start the live cd of feisty, my computer is a hp dv2550se, the problem is that the live cd don't init... it only show a busybox shell
[01:37] <ingo> hai ! can i open a .svg graphic in gimp via plugin !?
[01:37] <neozen> meep
[01:37] <Stormx2> igorgue: Have you verified the cd image?
[01:37] <ShackJack> StavmaN: Well, I have about 40GB on one 80GB drive dedicated to Ubuntu - 9.6 for root and the rest for /home (and 1.5 GB for swap)
[01:37] <igorgue> yes
[01:37] <reed026> igorgue, did you try to install with the alt cd? Sometimes laptops don't run well with Ubuntu
[01:38] <igorgue> nop
[01:38] <CVirus> Is /etc/udev/udev.rules present in feisty ?
[01:38] <ingo> hai ! can i open a .svg graphic in gimp via plugin !?
[01:39] <neozen> ingo... we heard you
[01:39] <racvets2> ingo, I am not sure Gimp can do svg, but you can get inkscape than can read it from the repos
[01:39] <neozen> please wait for a response
[01:39] <StavmaN> ShackJack: can my /home be an NTFS partition?
[01:39] <Stormx2> StavmaN: Yep, but why?
[01:39] <neozen> StavmaN: ....it could be.... but not necessarily the best way to skin the cat
[01:39] <NemesisD> hi, i have an ubuntu laptop with connectivity to the internet, could i run a cat5 cable from the laptop to another ubuntu machine and get on the internet with that second machine?
[01:39] <ShackJack> StavmaN: Ubuntu will not let you format it that way.... it should really be a regular ext3 and you can "leave" another partition for NTFS...
[01:39] <ingo> racvets2: thank you
[01:40] <ShackJack> StavmaN: /home stores all your configuration stuff and other things and might be a problem if it were a non-linux filesystem...
[01:40] <StavmaN> Stormx2: i want to dual boot, and keep my media files accessible for windows
[01:40] <neozen> StavmaN: ok... have a fat32 partition
[01:40] <Theory> there will almost certainly be problems if /home is on a partition without permission support
[01:41] <Stormx2> neozen: Worst idea ever?
[01:41] <StavmaN> no good, it won't support DVDR's
[01:41] <ShackJack> StavmaN: I do the same thing, all my mp3 are on my windows partition (on another drive) and i access them directly from there... have it bookmarked as "My Music" in Nautilus places for direct access...
[01:41] <Mbantua> can I use a debian package with ubuntu
[01:41] <Stormx2> StavmaN: Windows can read ext3 no problem with a 3rd party driver. Takes 5 minutes to set up, max.
[01:41] <neozen> Stormx2: lol... mine or his?
[01:41] <racvets1> Mbantua, yea you can
[01:41] <racvets1> just double click it
[01:41] <racvets1> Ubuntu was based on Debian
[01:41] <neozen> Stormx2: but can it write to ext3 just as easily?
[01:41] <reed026> Mbantua, Ubuntu has a Debian Base so they would be compatable
[01:42] <Cyber_heh> !flash
[01:42] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:42] <NigelS> ubuntu still is based on debian :)
[01:42] <Mbantua> racvets1: what do mean by doubleclick?
[01:42] <StavmaN> ShackJack: than why do you need a 40GB partition for linux?
[01:42] <NeoGeo64> help.. how do i activate ubuntu
[01:42] <neozen> Stormx2: and what is the name of this driver?
[01:42] <racvets1> if you download the file and find it in the file viewer, then you can double click it
[01:42] <Stormx2> neozen: Yours. FAT is old, unjournalled, awful character set, and a limit on file size.
[01:42] <neozen> NeoGeo64: define activate
[01:42] <Stormx2> neozen: I'll find it. It's called IFS or something.
[01:42] <Zambezi> DNS is edited i /etc/resolv.conf, but how can I add two statics DNS?
[01:43] <neozen> Stormx2: true... but can't beat it for os compatibility
[01:43] <NeoGeo64> send my computer information to a large database to insure that im using genuine ubuntu
[01:43] <ubutom> tvout > ubotu
[01:43] <Mbantua> I tried to find libfreeimage3 with aptitude search but couldn't. How can I install a package from a different source?
[01:43] <dissection> !ubuntu
[01:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[01:43] <ShackJack> StavmaN: I have the extra space for stuff i download from Linux, movies, etc... It's just I had the Windows partition already and all my MP3s happen to be on it... and heck 40GB in this day and age ain't that much :)
[01:43] <neozen> Stormx2: and can this driver do write access to ext3?
[01:43] <Stormx2> neozen: It can.
[01:43] <neozen> Stormx2: thank you
[01:43] <Stormx2> neozen: And that's a small gain over a huge loss.
[01:43] <neozen> Stormx2: true...
[01:44] <ShackJack> Mbantua: You have to find a repository that offers the package, add it to your sources list and then install... Of get source code of package and build your own...
[01:44] <NeoGeo64> Is Ubuntu supported by Microsoft
[01:44] <Stormx2> NeoGeo64: Take a wild guess.
[01:44] <NeoGeo64> Windows Vista
[01:44] <neozen> NeoGeo64: hell no
[01:44] <Mbantua> ShackJack: I tried to build it first but ended up with error while I use make
[01:44] <jerkface03> lol
[01:44] <CVirus> ROFL
[01:44] <jerkface03> don't feed the troll
[01:44] <NigelS> Mbantua: if you can satisfy the dependencies you can install anything, checkout package.debian.org and packages.ubuntu.org to see if it's in ubuntu in an upstream version
[01:44] <neozen> potential troll?
[01:44] <vox754> neozen, warn the ops!
[01:44] <ShackJack> It's Bill Gates - GET HIM!!!
[01:45] <NigelS> we're about to be assimilated :(
[01:45] <Stormx2> Calm down, he might be genuinely unsure.
[01:45] <Stormx2> We'll soon see, eh?
[01:45] <NeoGeo64> is ubuntu just windows vista with a hacked gui or is it something else
[01:45] <Mbantua> NigelS: I'll do that... thanks
[01:45] <neozen> NeoGeo64: no...
[01:45] <ShackJack> Yep, Troll :)
[01:45] <Stormx2> NeoGeo64: Something else. You can read about it at ubuntu.com!
[01:45] <neozen> NeoGeo64: something completely different
[01:45] <kitche> NeoGeo64: it's an operating system called Linux
[01:45] <Stormx2> NeoGeo64: We won't explain it here, please read up at ubuntu.com
[01:45] <zenmonk> what can you do about the error that says no xclients file is found?  I already added exec gnome-session to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, and tried adding one to home, making sure to chmod +x it
[01:45] <kbrooks> I need ideas for my own sites.
[01:46] <kbrooks> Anyone?
[01:46] <kbrooks> thanks.
[01:46] <kbrooks> er
[01:46] <aldren> i can believe about some questions here :~
[01:46] <ShackJack> NeoGeo64: Here's another good source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29
[01:46] <NeoGeo64> ok. can i run dx10 on ubuntu
[01:46] <kbrooks> I need ideas for my own site. *
[01:46] <StavmaN> thank's for all your help
[01:46] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, no.
[01:46] <kbrooks> !lnw
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lnw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <Stormx2> kbrooks: Your website?
[01:46] <nickrud> kbrooks, a picture
[01:46] <neozen> NeoGeo64: no
[01:46] <Jay123> Hello I need help here's my situation: I installed Ubuntu 7.04 over XP just today now when I try to boot from the hard drive it says "no operating system" so I can only boot from the live cd which I am using right now .... Can anybody walk me through the steps to get Ubuntu booting off my hard drive please?
[01:46] <NeoGeo64> can i run internet explorer on ubuntu
[01:46] <_Roly> I have got an acer aspire 5633 laptop with the intel 3945 wifi chip.  I am running feisty with all packages updated.  The problem is that my wireless network does not appear most of the time when doing a scan (iwconfig eth1 scan), it does sometimes appear.  If I manage to get a connection it just drops after a couple of seconds.  I have got another laptop next to me and this can connect absolutely fine.  Signal strength is about 75%.  Does anyone have any sugges
[01:46] <Stormx2> kbrooks: I thought you were op? #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:46] <kbrooks> nickrud, anything else?
[01:46] <neozen> NeoGeo64: no directx on linux
[01:46] <ShackJack> NeoGeo64: Yes...
[01:46] <nickrud> kbrooks, what's your focus?
[01:46] <Stormx2> NeoGeo64: Yes, but its hacky and best to use firefox (as is true on windows, also)
[01:46] <NeoGeo64> because i dont like fire fox
[01:46] <kbrooks> nickrud, unsure.
[01:47] <neozen> NeoGeo64: no.. no IE ...plenty of other browsers out there
[01:47] <nickrud> kbrooks, lots of pictures :)
[01:47] <vox754> _Roly, to identical laptops? one works the other doesn't?
[01:47] <ShackJack> neozen: Yes, you actually can run IE on Ubuntu :) - Not IE 7 Thought, AFAIK
[01:47] <Jay123> Hello I need help here's my situation: I installed Ubuntu 7.04 over XP just today now when I try to boot from the hard drive it says "no operating system" so I can only boot from the live cd which I am using right now .... Can anybody walk me through the steps to get Ubuntu booting off my hard drive please?
[01:47] <vox754> !repeat > Jay123
[01:47] <Stormx2> ShackJack: You can run the IE7 rendering engine, but not IE7.
[01:47] <NigelS> Jay123: you ignored my msg
[01:47] <nickrud> kbrooks, I'm at aphroneo.net, that's how sure I am :)
[01:48] <neozen> _Roly: is ssid broadcast turned on on your wireless router?
[01:48] <_Roly> vox754: no, the other laptop is a fujitsu running intel 2200 wifi.  I was mentioning it to show that the access point was working correctly
[01:48] <Stormx2> Jay123: Sounds like a bodged grub install.
[01:48] <mike1234> im trying to get samba to work, at the moment both linux to linux machines but when i try and access the shared folder in gnome, i get ""homes" couldn't be found. Perhaps it has recently been deleted." any ideas
[01:48] <Jay123> nigels
[01:48] <NeoGeo64> does windows vista use linux?
[01:48] <_Roly> neozen: yes it is.
[01:48] <Jay123> i typed mount and told u
[01:48] <kyja> how do I get mysql setup?? It is installed but I have to create an administrator password right? how ?
[01:48] <Stormx2> NeoGeo64: For the last time, read ubuntu.com.
[01:48] <vox754> NigelS, still there? How are things with this buddy?
[01:48] <Pelo> NeoGeo64,  I think you are confused as to what linux is
[01:48] <NemesisD> ok ive got something seriously wrong with my window manager or something, all, fresh install of ubuntu, it runs fine but i just start a random app like forefox and within 10 seconds the mouse and kb become unresponsive
[01:48] <kliklik> Does anyone know a good eBook reader for ubuntu, something like yBook (which is unfortunately windows only)?
[01:49] <NemesisD> cant restart x with the keyboard or anything
[01:49] <nickrud> kyja, install mysql-admin; it's a gui front end that will ease that setup
[01:49] <Jay123> nigels I messaged you back
[01:49] <_Roly> kyja: mysqladmin -uroot password <password>    <-- I think that will do it (just going from memory)
[01:49] <neozen> _Roly: hmm.. interesting problem
[01:49] <ShackJack> Jay123: Here's infor on restoring GRUB - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[01:49] <NeoGeo64> linux is something put on windows rite
[01:49] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, Linux is not Windows.
[01:49] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, No
[01:49] <Stormx2> This guy is trolling.
[01:49] <Stormx2> Definately.
[01:49] <Stormx2> Can we get him kicked?
[01:49] <Pelo> NeoGeo64,  no, linux is an alternative to windows,  sort of ,  window is an operatiing system, so is linux
[01:49] <kbrooks> Stormx2, he is askng genuine questions
[01:50] <kyja> ok I will try
[01:50] <Pelo> NeoGeo64,  so is dos, so is osx, so is bds, etc
[01:50] <NeoGeo64> so to use linux, you dont use windows
[01:50] <kbrooks> Stormx2, so no, we cant kicck him
[01:50] <_Roly> neozen: it is is strange, more so in that there is another wireless network in the area (about 30%) and this network always appears in scans
[01:50] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, you can
[01:50] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, with vmware
[01:50] <Stormx2> kbrooks: No, he's not. It's already been explained that a) Ubuntu isn't to do with windows and b) He shouldn't be asking these questions here, he should read up on it.
[01:50] <neozen> NeoGeo64: nope... you don't have to have windows
[01:50] <zenmonk> NeoGeo64: you can dual boot like I am
[01:50] <NeoGeo64> ok well i will download it
[01:51] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, hold on.
[01:51] <Pelo> neo,  you don'T need windows if you use linux,  but you can have both on the same machine,  just not running at the same time, generaly,  you can run both at the same time if you want but you will be doing some special stuff to make that happen
[01:51] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, read the site first
[01:51] <neozen> NeoGeo64: ok ... feel free to come back here if you have any issues
[01:51] <osxdude|lap> Thunder!
[01:51] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, have a look.
[01:51] <aldren> i thing that he is kidding with you guys :~
[01:51] <neozen> NeoGeo64: its what this channel is here for
[01:51] <Bubbles25> I have been having sound problems. I have read through the help stuff on the ubuntu website. I had sound for awhile, but when I was trying to get  sound to come out of my front speaker (my motherboard has built in 7.1 sound) I broke my sound. I don't know how to undo what I did, and I can't find the site again. Now I have no sound at all. I have tried searching for information on ubuntu.com and in google I just can't find anything that will work. Does anyo
[01:51] <NigelS> Jay123: I wouldn't have seen it if you haven't registered on freenode
[01:51] <kyja> super !! thx roly that fixed it. now I can use mysql administrator like the other guy sais.
[01:51] <kyja> said
[01:51] <osxdude|lap> oops sorry wrong channg
[01:51] <Pelo> aldren,  kidding or not , we are the nice channel, we answer questions, and donT' abuse the asker
[01:51] <alex_> none of my system fonts work, like my title bar shows all boxes instead of "Konversation", anyone know the problem?
[01:52] <jamie_> just installed opera web browser now firefox keeps asking my users if they want to import any one know how to stop this please.
[01:52] <_Roly> kyja: no problem
[01:52] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: Open up alsamixer in a terminal window - maybe you muted a channel by mistable?
[01:52] <NeoGeo64> i have an old g4 ppc, can it run ubuntu
[01:52] <Stormx2> lol mistable :D
[01:52] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, you are downloading a CD image that you have to burn to a blank CD not as a ISO
[01:52] <aldren> Pelo, what i wrote wrong ?
[01:52] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: no...I have checked that already
[01:52] <SirGrant> neo not 7.04
[01:52] <Stormx2> Bubbles25: If you can't find help here, try ubuntuforums.org
[01:52] <Bubbles25> about 23 times
[01:52] <SirGrant> only older versions
[01:52] <Pelo> aldren,  you said you thought he was kidding
[01:52] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: You've turn *off external amplifier?
[01:52] <SirGrant> 7.04 eliminated PPC support
[01:52] <_Roly> Does anyone have experience with canatonicals commercial ubuntu support in the UK?  Is it worth the price?
[01:52] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, do you understand that?
[01:52] <NeoGeo64> yes
[01:53] <NeoGeo64> apple got all gay and started using intel chips.
[01:53] <kbrooks> SirGrant, no, it eliminated official support for PPC
[01:53] <Bubbles25> also...I accidently got rid of my "taskbar" (not sure what it is called in linux...I don't have the bar with all of my windows open anymore
[01:53] <Bubbles25> I have to alt+tab to get to my programs...how do I get it back?
[01:53] <Stormx2> Bubbles25: Do you have any gnome panels at all?
[01:53] <Stormx2> Bubbles25: If so, right click > add to panel. Task list is under there.
[01:54] <Pelo> Bubbles25,  do you still hve the top one ? right click and add a pannel  then move the new one to the bottom ,  right click on it and add TO pannel
[01:54] <kbrooks> Bubbles25, it has a show desktop icon, a window panel, workspace switcher, and trash can
[01:54] <_Roly> Bubbles25: right click on the other panel and select add panel, then add the window switcher to it
[01:54] <aldren> Pelo. and i wasn't wront about it, he is kidding
[01:54] <aldren> :)
[01:54] <kbrooks> Bubbles25, it has a show desktop icon, a window panel, workspace switcher, and trash can <<<<<
[01:54] <NeoGeo64> Can you use AOL on Linux?
[01:54] <kbrooks> Bubbles25, you can add these
[01:54] <NemesisD> anyone know why in restricted drivers when i check the box to enable this ati accelrated driver it just stays unchecked and not in use?
[01:54] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, yes, but not the program
[01:54] <Pelo> NeoGeo64,  I defended you once,  I'm not doing it again
[01:54] <aldren> wront/wrong/g
[01:54] <neozen> NeoGeo64: its time to take a look at the faq
[01:54] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, IM yes
[01:54] <Bubbles25> kbrooks: yes that is the one
[01:55] <neozen> NeoGeo64: most of the questions you're asking are answered there
[01:55] <NeoGeo64> ok
[01:55] <NeoGeo64> i will read rtfm and stfu
[01:55] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, stfu is bad to say, and we arent telling u to shut up
[01:55] <NeoGeo64> yes u r ;(
[01:55] <Stormx2> !rtfm | NeoGeo64
[01:55] <ubotu> NeoGeo64: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[01:55] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: I dunno if it's too drastic, but maybe uninstall and reinstall alsa packages to restore your sound... aptitude purge alsa && aptitude install -f alsa
[01:55] <Cyber_heh> !mouse
[01:55] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:55] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, no we arent
[01:56] <NigelS> yeah, for those words go to #debian ;)
[01:56] <NeoGeo64> heh
[01:56] <Pelo> what's  jfgi ?
[01:56] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: thanks I will try that...is that all of the commands I need?
[01:56] <neozen> just forget it perhaps?
[01:56] <Bubbles25> how do I get the panel to appear at the bottom
[01:56] <SirGrant> I've never heard jfgi either
[01:56] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: Should be, yep... paste on one line (that's what ampersands are for "and")
[01:57] <trungdung> hi
[01:57] <kbrooks> SirGrant, uh, "just ******* get it"
[01:57] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: Right click on top panel and select add panel..
[01:57] <Stormx2> kbrooks: s/get/google.
[01:57] <SirGrant> oh ok I can see why that is bad lol
[01:57] <kbrooks> Stormx2, ah ok
[01:57] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: ah...thanks
[01:57] <alex_> can anyone tell me how to repair my system fonts?
[01:57] <ShackJack> Goin' to watch TV - be back later....
[01:58] <ShackJack> alex_: Repair? How are they broken?
[01:58] <Pelo> alex_,  you want to bet the defaults back ?
[01:58] <kbrooks> SirGrant, its not that bad, but saying google it is silly on your part, and wastes  your time later
[01:58] <alex_> all i get is boxes
[01:58] <italianninja> hello vlc doesnt play divx movies? anyone know why
[01:58] <rainman62> Hello!!
[01:58] <ShackJack> alex_: Go to Prefs Fonts and change the fonts there...(?)
[01:59] <Stormx2> italianninja: Try #videolan
[01:59] <SirGrant> I never said google it
[01:59] <Pelo> alex_,  in order   3 x  sans 10,  sans bold 10, monospace 10, best render
[01:59] <SirGrant> I just said I didn't know what the acronym ment
[01:59] <alex_> i tried that but i can't read anything that i'm changing
[01:59] <kbrooks> SirGrant, um, i wasnt saying u did
[01:59] <SirGrant> oh ok
[01:59] <trungdung> oh
[01:59] <Jay123> I need to do what this page says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub  but every command I type doesn't work can somebody walk me through it?
[01:59] <ShackJack> alex_: But you can see fonts in the drop-down menu, no?
[01:59] <Pelo> Alex-The-ATLien,  if you type it in , it will go to the right one
[01:59] <trungdung> i am trung dung
[01:59] <NemesisD> ok first thing is first then can somebody help me figure out how to share this internet connection i have on this ubuntu machine with another machine via wired lan?
[01:59] <SirGrant> oh
[01:59] <alex_> no
[01:59] <SirGrant> I see wy I was confused
[01:59] <SirGrant> when he used ****** I thought that ment it was a swear word
[02:00] <alex_> the only fonts that show are ones inside programs
[02:00] <kbrooks> SirGrant, it is
[02:00] <trungdung> i am initial using ubuntu
[02:00] <kbrooks> SirGrant, so i crossed it out
[02:00] <SirGrant> o
[02:00] <ShackJack> alex_: Like menubars and stuff?
[02:00] <Pelo> alex_,  waht language is your system set to ?
[02:00] <Jay123> I need to do what this page says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub  but every command I type doesn't work can somebody walk me through it?
[02:00] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: I am getting an error message it couldn't open two files...they are locked it asked if I was root...so I tried running sudo with it...but that still didn't work?
[02:00] <kbrooks> !repeat | Jay123
[02:00] <ubotu> Jay123: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:00] <neozen> italianninja: your divx movie is screwed up / not adhering to standards your build of vlc was made to support
[02:01] <italianninja> Stormx2: no answer there
[02:01] <alex_> english
[02:01] <NigelS> Jay123: I was trying to earlier; but you weren't typing the commands correctly.  What do you mean the commands don't work?
[02:01] <neozen> italianninja: have you tried other divx compressed videos with vlc?
[02:01] <alex_> it happened when i installed trevino's feisty repo and ran upgrade
[02:01] <rainman62> I'm having problems installing ubuntu 7.04 and need help
[02:01] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: Oh, yeah sorry -- sudo just do as two separate command sudo aptitude purge alsa  etc...
[02:01] <Pelo> alex_,  can you get to the font dialog box in menu >s ystem > prefs ?
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Jay123: What error do you get when you type those commands
[02:01] <neozen> rainman62: you've come to the right place
[02:01] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: oh ok
[02:01] <Jay123> i guess im not typing them I have no idea what the hell im fucking doing man this is the first time I ever used linux
[02:01] <neozen> rainman62: what's your issue
[02:01] <italianninja> yeah they dont work
[02:01] <italianninja> dont think vlc has the plugin installed
[02:02] <Stormx2> italianninja: Idle for a bit. otherwise open up synaptic, find vlc, and install the recommend/suggested packages.
[02:02] <alex_> if u can tell me how many items down on the list it is
[02:02] <kbrooks> !language | Jay123
[02:02] <ubotu> Jay123: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:02] <ShackJack> alex_: You can open up your system configuraiton editor and change them by hand -- under desktop->gnome->interface->*_font_name
[02:02] <rainman62> I have 7.04 and 6.1 if installing 6.1 I get the graphic installation but with 7.04 it freeze during the first text boot
[02:02] <NigelS> Jay123: right, let's start again.  first off let's type sudo -s in the terminal
[02:02] <Pelo> alex_,  you don'T need to know,   just click anywhere in the list and type  sans
[02:02] <Stormx2> Jay123: Register to services and I'll walk you through it in PMs.
[02:02] <Mbantua> is aptitude search automatically using the locations inside sources.list to find packages?
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Jay123: You need to do a few things... watch your language, provide a description other than dosent work and what you did before it stopped working
[02:03] <Pelo> alex_, it will select the font automaticaly from there, then just it  the apply button , the one on the bottom right , do it for each font
[02:03] <kitche>  Mbantua yes if you updated aptitude
[02:03] <Jay123> sans bring up a blank line in terminal
[02:03] <Stormx2> Mbantua: Yeah. Make sure you run sudo apt-get update   after modifying /etc/apt/sources.list tho :D
[02:03] <neozen> rainman62: how's your ram?
[02:03] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: it doesn't look like it is changing anything it says 0 for all of the stuff
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Stormx2: Thanks
[02:03] <neozen> rainman62: and where does it freeze?
[02:03] <Mbantua> kitche: that's it... didn't do that
[02:03] <Jay123> I  typed  sans in terminal
[02:03] <rainman62> I have about 1.5Gb of ram
[02:03] <Mbantua> Stormx2: dito
[02:03] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: Maybe you already uninstalled alsa then? Just need to reinstall?
[02:03] <NigelS> Jay123: after that type mkdir /mnt/hard_disk && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hard_disk
[02:04] <neozen> rainman62: also... appending the name of the person you're speaking to in here will help get your question better noticed and answered speedily...
[02:04] <rainman62> I need to start 7.04 to tell you exactly whree
[02:04] <NemesisD> anyone? directly sharing an internet connection with another computer via lan?
[02:04] <rainman62> it's after it dedect the mouse
[02:04] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: sudo aptitude install -f alsa :)
[02:04] <Stormx2> rainman62: Have you installed it?
[02:04] <Pelo> Jay123,  those instructions weren'T meant for you
[02:04] <Pelo> afk
[02:04] <rainman62> neozen, thanks
[02:04] <Jay123> can i just copy and paste that in terminal?
[02:04] <Cyber_Smoke> what version is feisty
[02:04] <neozen> rainman62: sticking it at the beginning of what you are saying with a colon or comma works just as well
[02:04] <Cyber_Smoke> ?
[02:04] <Cyber_Smoke> 7.07
[02:04] <Stormx2> rainman62: Oh nevermind, I misunderstood.
[02:04] <NigelS> Jay123: if you've done sudo -s yes you can copy and paste
[02:05] <neozen> rainman62: when the room starts moving quickly such little things are priceless
[02:05] <rainman62> stormx2 no not yet.
[02:05] <Bubbles25> ShackJack: I did that too and when I did it still said it didn't install anything. It said 0 packages upgraaded and 0 newly installed
[02:05] <neozen> rainman62: have you verified the burn?
[02:05] <neozen> rainman62: try booting the cd and selecting the test cd option
[02:05] <rainman62> neozen, yes
[02:05] <ShackJack> Bubbles25: Umm I dunno - maybe using synaptic manager would be easier for you -- look up alsa...
[02:05] <neozen> rainman62: hmm... interesting
[02:05] <rainman62> noezen, does 7.04 come in graphic install like 6.1?
[02:05] <Music_Shuffle> Yes.
[02:05] <neozen> rainman62: absolutely
[02:06] <calugarar> excuse me i have a n00b question .... how do i update an ubuntu 5.10 ?
[02:06] <Jay123> --ok i typed sudo -s then copy and pasted "mkdir /mnt/hard_disk && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hard_disk" then hit enter and it brought up a new line
[02:06] <rainman62> neozen: hmmm where do I download that. all I got was the text install
[02:06] <neozen> rainman62: all one need do is boot the desktop installation cd... and you should get a graphical install
[02:06] <Pelo> calugarar,  from 5.10 you would be better off , backing up your /home folder and clean installing 7.4
[02:06] <neozen> rainman62: you might have gotten the alternate cd by mistake
[02:06] <neozen> rainman62: is the word alternate in the name of the file you downloaded?
[02:07] <Pelo> alex_,  I block /msg , please talk to me int he channel
[02:07] <Jay123> --NigelS, did you see my previous post?
[02:07] <NigelS> Jay123: ok, now if you could type "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst &" without the quotes and put that on pastebin please
[02:07] <neozen> rainman62: *image
[02:07] <alex_> do u know of a way to change it from command line
[02:07] <calugarar> pelo, and for that i need 2 burn the iso, right ?
[02:07] <rainman62> neozen, hold on let me check
[02:07] <Pelo> alex_,  no I donT' sorry
[02:07] <NigelS> Jay123: sorry scratch that
[02:07] <neozen> rainman62: ok... standing by
[02:07] <SirGrant> calugarar ya you would need to download the 7.04 CD from ubuntu.com
[02:07] <NigelS> Jay123: i mean-
[02:07] <Jay123> to late
[02:07] <Pelo> calugarar,  yes you would need to do that ,but there are other ways to install
[02:08] <calugarar> damn it 10x anyway
[02:08] <Pelo> !install | calugarar
[02:08] <ubotu> calugarar: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:08] <SirGrant> calugarar I agree it would be easier to back up your data and install then update from your old version
[02:08] <NigelS> Jay123: ok, now if you could type "gedit /mnt/hard_disk/boot/grub/menu.lst &" without the quotes and put that on pastebin please
[02:08] <italianninja> videolan support room is rubbish
[02:08] <alex_> is it possible that my system fonts weren't deleted?
[02:08] <italianninja> everyone is asleep in there
[02:08] <Mbantua> one step further... now I get an W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1when trying to update with the new source deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
[02:08] <neozen> italianninja: ::nods:: quite a few rooms on freenode are that way... monitor the room and someone will notice
[02:08] <Pelo> alex_, I'm sorry I thought you just changed the font did you delete them ?
[02:09] <rainman62> neozen, yes it did has alternate in the file name
[02:09] <neozen> rainman62: ok then
[02:09] <italianninja> neozen: trouble is i want help now lol
[02:09] <rainman62> neozen, I'm downloading a new one
[02:10] <neozen> italianninja: such is life
[02:10] <Pelo> later folks
[02:10] <rainman62> neozen, thanks, let me get the new file and will go from there.
[02:10] <rainman62> thanks
[02:10] <neozen> farewell pelo
[02:10] <fujin> anyone familiar with queus? I'm using static members with priorities like 0,1,2, I assumed that if no one from priority 0 picked it up it would start rining priority 1 also
[02:10] <genii> run apt-get with the --allow-unauthenticated switch to ignore gpg
[02:10] <fujin> doh
[02:10] <alex_> not sure, it happened when i ran sudo apt-get upgrade, after changing my repos
[02:10] <neozen> rainman62: you are most welcome
[02:10] <rainman62> neozen, what irc software do you use?
[02:10] <neozen> rainman62: xchat
[02:10] <neozen> rainman62: might be xchat2
[02:11] <rainman62> neozen, is that free, I dld mirc but they want money
[02:11] <neozen> rainman62: absolutely free
[02:11] <rainman62> neozen, linux or windows?
[02:11] <neozen> rainman62: version that comes with feisty is 2.8.0
[02:11] <neozen> rainman62: works on both
[02:11] <iari> Hey all, How do I set my screen res to 1650 * 1080 ?
[02:11] <kitche> neozen: on windows xchat costs money
[02:12] <neozen> kitche: really? ... never knew that
[02:12] <rainman62> neozen, thanks again, will see after the ubuntu is insatalled competely
[02:12] <xhaan> kitche, theres a free one
[02:12] <neozen> rainman62: you are welcome
[02:12] <kitche> neozen: there is some free versions of it if you wish
[02:12] <rainman62> kitche thanks for the warning
[02:12] <kitche> xhaan: yes but not the same xchat :)
[02:13] <neozen> kitche: heh... no worries... I've already drank the kool-aid
[02:13] <iari> Does anyone know how to set wide screen res 1650 * 1080 ?
[02:13] <neozen> kitche: am hooked on linux
[02:13] <Mbantua> while update apt-get I get a E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Is that a memory issue?
[02:13] <neozen> iari: what kind of card do you have?
[02:13] <majnoon> ok just one question :: how do you make it to FORCE disk check on reboot
[02:13] <majnoon> ??
[02:14] <iari> neozen: ATI
[02:14] <majnoon> ok just one question :: how do you make it to FORCE disk check on reboot ?
[02:14] <Mohd> People, i got another problem. I have installed wine, and used it.
[02:14] <Mohd> But i dont see user/.wine file?
[02:14] <jrib> majnoon: sudo touch /forcefsck
[02:14] <neozen> iari: does that resolution appear in the possibility list for resolutions?
[02:14] <bruenig> Mohd, ls ~/.wine
[02:15] <Mohd> Bruenig: that's a terminal command?
[02:15] <bruenig> Mohd, yes
[02:15] <bruenig> Mohd, it will determine if the file is there or not
[02:15] <neozen> guess I'll have to boot my gnome vm..
[02:15] <iari> neozen: No..
[02:15] <majnoon> tyvm jrib
[02:15] <bruenig> Mohd, unless it says file not found, it is there
[02:15] <majnoon> now me try it
[02:15] <neozen> iari: are you sure that resolution is supported by your card?
[02:15] <Mohd> Bruenig , it had found few files.
[02:16] <asim> can some1 help me reset my settings?
[02:16] <bruenig> Mohd, ok so it is there, what do you need with it?
[02:16] <neozen> iari: have you properly installed the drivers for your particular card?
[02:16] <iari> neozen: yes, I use it on Windows
[02:16] <Mohd> bruenig , i need to copy and fast Adobe file to it, in order to make Photoshop works in Linux with wine.
[02:16] <asim> can some1 help me reset my settings?
[02:16] <neozen> iari: ok... did you install the drivers for your particular card (which model btw?)
[02:16] <iari> neozen: Not sure, the system automatically detected it...
[02:16] <Mohd> Bruenig , the problem is, I cant find the .wine file using the explorer?
[02:17] <neozen> asim: reset what settings for which programs?
[02:17] <asim> am having problems with my firefox mozilla
[02:17] <neozen> asim: ah...
[02:17] <bruenig> Mohd, oh you were using the file explorer, I get so used to terminal, you need to do ctrl + h to show hidden files
[02:17] <Mohd> Bruenig , thanks alot, really appreciated.
[02:17] <asim> i cant play any divx videos
[02:18] <iari> neozen: TI Mobility Radeon X600
[02:18] <asim> i tried installing other applications
[02:18] <neozen> iari: ah...
[02:18] <iari> neozen: TI = ATI
[02:18] <asim> but it would only try to access a wrong path for my totem player
[02:18] <neozen> who's got a mobility radeon x600?
[02:19] <neozen> .....drat.... don't all raise your hands at once now....
[02:19] <Bulli> <--x700
[02:19] <yokomo> Q: can I change which wifi network I connect to based on mac address of AP?
[02:19] <asim> can any1 help
[02:19] <asim> ?
[02:19] <bruenig> yokomo, you mean instead of specifying essid, to specify the mac address?
[02:19] <jordan_> Hi guys, I really need help with my ubuntu machine -- hooking it up to my HD TV with component cables
[02:19] <rainman> nozen, just want to say that I dld xchat for windows and it's free
[02:19] <danielbw> genii: I thought amd owned ati
[02:19] <yokomo> yes, the essid's are the same
[02:20] <asim> how to reset my ubuntu settings?
[02:20] <yokomo> they are both linksys
[02:20] <yokomo> but I want to connect to the "legal" one
[02:20] <bruenig> yokomo, iwconfig INTERFACE ap MACADRESS
[02:20] <bruenig> ADDRESS*
[02:20] <neozen> asim: sudo apt-get reinstall firefox at the command line
[02:20] <bruenig> neozen, sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox
[02:20] <genii> danielbw: Yeah they do now. Oddly no open source drivers yet however
[02:21] <bruenig> !info firefox
[02:21] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.4+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9012 kB, installed size 28592 kB
[02:21] <neozen> bruenig: thanks.... used to aptitude
[02:21] <asim> i did
[02:21] <asim> i removed it from the package manager
[02:21] <asim> and then installed it again
[02:21] <asim> its not helping
[02:21] <bruenig> yokomo, oh you need sudo for that command
[02:21] <jordan_> Anyone help with xorg.conf and TV-out?
[02:21] <neozen> asim: did you delete the .mozilla/firefox folder in your root directory?
[02:21] <bruenig> !tvout | jordan_
[02:21] <ubotu> jordan_: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[02:21] <asim> no
[02:21] <yokomo> bruenig, figured
[02:21] <neozen> asim: do that first
[02:21] <asim> where do i find that folder?
[02:21] <danielbw> genii: ATI has bad drivers all around
[02:22] <neozen> asim: get to a terminal
[02:22] <asim> ahan
[02:22] <asim> then
[02:22] <neozen> asim: and type rm -r .mozilla/firefox
[02:22] <iari> neozen: Any ideas ?
[02:22] <neozen> iari: you probably need to install the driver for your card to support resolutions like that
[02:23] <natbet> how do I change screens? (I have screen 0 as my twinview setup, and screen 1 as my tv
[02:23] <asim> wait
[02:23] <asim> lemme uninstall it again
[02:23] <neozen> iari: looking for a good tutorial for you
[02:23] <neozen> asim: ok
[02:23] <jrib> asim: note you lose all your bookmarks too
[02:23] <iari> neozen: Thanks! :)
[02:23] <NigelS> asim: installing/reinstalling the package will leave intact your config files
[02:24] <NigelS> asim: you have to purge the package to remove configs
[02:24] <jrib> natbet: hmm, I think i just drag my mouse to the edge of the screen and keep going.  Does that work for you?
[02:24] <kevinl--> Question: Is it possible to configuire nsswitch.conf so that only a certain application can authenticate to it via libpam-mysql?
[02:24] <kbrooks> um
[02:24] <natbet> jrib: no, it doesn't show up on my tv
[02:24] <natbet> jrib: the desktop doesn't even show up, it's like it isn't sending out a signal
[02:25] <jrib> natbet: ah, that's different.  Are you using nvidia?  Did you ever have it working?
[02:25] <asim> how do i purge it?
[02:25] <jrib> asim: sudo aptitude purge PACKAGE
[02:25] <jrib> !apt > asim (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:26] <natbet> jrib: yup, it's an nvidia card with the driver from the ubuntu repository
[02:26] <bruenig> purging firefox is pointless
[02:26] <asim> then?
[02:26] <asim> wat to do
[02:26] <NigelS> asim: but in any event the instruction that neozen gave you would get rid of the config too
[02:26] <jrib> natbet: how did you set it up?  Did you edit xorg.conf by hand or use nvidia-settings?
[02:26] <asim> mmmm
[02:26] <bruenig> purging firefox doesn't get rid of the configuration
[02:27] <neutrale> salve a tutti
[02:27] <jrib> !it | neutrale
[02:27] <ubotu> neutrale: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:27] <natbet> jrib: I tried using nvidia-settings, I haven't tried it by hand yet
[02:27] <cje> hi,
[02:27] <jrib> natbet: k, did you run nvidia-settings with sudo so that it could write the changes to xorg.conf?
[02:27] <kbrooks> bruenig, you mean user settings, in that case you are correct
[02:28] <natbet> jrib: yup
[02:28] <cje> oops, is there a script command to find out what version of ubuntu is installed on my machine?  Thanks
[02:28] <jrib> natbet: k, and restarted X?
[02:28] <jrib> !version > cje (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:28] <bruenig> kbrooks, that is all the configuration that firefox has, firefox is nothing more than an extracted directory with a symlink put in /usr/bin
[02:28] <natbet> jrib: the changes are in the xorg.conf, but when I run nvidia-settings again, the tv always shows up as disabled
[02:28] <bruenig> it probably ought to be in /opt
[02:28] <asim> give me a command to install mozilla
[02:29] <natbet> jrib: yup, I've restarted X
[02:29] <Tophe1> Hey, can anyone suggest what factors might be making Ubuntu run slowly on my Inspiron laptop? 512MB RAM, 2 GHz proc - but lesser laptops run Beryl etc. better and I don't know why. Hard disk space? Video card?
[02:29] <neozen> asim: sure you don't mean firefox?
[02:29] <cje> jrib: thanks!
[02:29] <bruenig> Tophe1, video card is the most important aspect of running beryl, hard disk shouldn't factor in at all
[02:29] <AzMoo[w] > Hey, how can I find out what version of kerberos I'm using?
[02:29] <neozen> !iceweasel
[02:29] <ubotu> Iceweasel's homepage is http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ with more detailed information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel
[02:29] <bruenig> !info kerberos
[02:29] <ubotu> Package kerberos does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:30] <bruenig> AzMoo, what is that
[02:30] <jrib> natbet: hmm, try pastebinning your xorg.conf and explaining the problem again to the channel.  I'll take a look, but I don't know much about it.  nvidia-settings "just works" for me
[02:30] <Tophe1> OK. If I install extra progs, will that affect performance or not so much?
[02:30] <asim> i mean firefox only
[02:30] <asim> sorry
[02:30] <iari> neozen: I think a good tutorial.. thanks. I'll let you know if it solved the problam
[02:30] <AzMoo[w] > bruenig: it's an authentication protocol.
[02:30] <AzMoo[w] > !krb-user
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krb-user - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <natbet> ok
[02:30] <bruenig> !info krb-user
[02:30] <AzMoo[w] > !info krb-user
[02:30] <ubotu> Package krb-user does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:30] <neozen> iari: ok... sorry ... lots on my plate right now
[02:30] <AzMoo[w] > :\
[02:30] <bruenig> AzMoo, figure out what its name is first
[02:30] <jrib> asim: sudo aptitude install firefox    please take a look at the page ubotu sent you in a private message
[02:30] <sldkfj> Tophe1, 'affect' in what aspect?
[02:31] <AzMoo[w] > !info krb5-user
[02:31] <ubotu> krb5-user: Basic programs to authenticate using MIT Kerberos. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.4-5ubuntu3.1 (feisty), package size 121 kB, installed size 312 kB
[02:31] <sldkfj> Tophe1, best place for help with Beryl is #Beryl
[02:31] <bruenig> Tophe1, that is a poor question, installing applications does not inherently have any effect as an application is just files on your hard drive, running different apps obviously use resources and so depending on the application if you are running it, it will slow down the system, see azureus
[02:31] <Tophe1> "Affect" like, Beryl runs slowly and jerkily with effects that run smoother and higher FPS on, for example a Dell Latitude (newer) with half the RAM and half the processor.
[02:32] <Tophe1> I suspect it's my video card :-( that's pretty un-fixable right?
[02:32] <bruenig> Tophe1, the biggest aspect is video card
[02:32] <bruenig> Tophe1, in fact beryl hardly touches my ram or cpu
[02:32] <natbet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30393/ here's the pastebin of my xorg.conf
[02:32] <KingPython> is anybody know a program convert a directoy(include .html files) to chm format?
[02:32] <daniberg> hi guys, I'm using ubuntu feisty and having some hard time to connect via wirelles. well, the problem now is only with the connection. can someone point me a direction?
[02:32] <Tophe1> hmm... does anyone know if there is anything I can do to "upgrade" or "tweak" my video card then?
[02:33] <bruenig> KingPython, chm is proprietary isn't it?
[02:33] <sldkfj> Tophe1, what manufacture made your card?
[02:33] <neozen> daniberg: well... what kind of card do you have?
[02:33] <Tophe1> I never thought about it in Windows. The thing is, not only Beryl runs slowly. It's other progs too.
[02:33] <unagi> anyone running avant window navigator
[02:33] <simpleH> I need some help, my nvidia software isn't saving the configuration properly to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:33] <Tophe1> It's an Intel chipset 82845G video card from a pretty old model.
[02:33] <bruenig> unagi, you must really love that dock, you have been hacking away at it for at least a week
[02:33] <daniberg> well, I did configure it with ndiswrapper
[02:33] <unagi> bruenig: no i havent
[02:33] <daniberg> 802.11b/g
[02:34] <neozen> Tophe1: hmm.... yeah.. might not have the horsepower necessary for beryl
[02:34] <daniberg> I can see the account listed
[02:34] <unagi> you can disagree all you want to but i havent messed with awn for over 2 weeks
[02:34] <KingPython> bruenig: proprietary?
[02:34] <sldkfj> Tophe1, best place for help with Beryl is #Beryl  .......... they will also help with video cards ........ but if I were you, I'd visit #compiz-fusion it's a better program
[02:34] <kbrooks> does the text "http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/images/code.php" show 7995 for you?
[02:34] <Tophe1> It's just that other people have talked about how fast Ubuntu in general (and specifics like Beryl) runs with similar models and I'm trying to figure out if I am fated to slowness, or if I have done some configuration wrong.
[02:34] <kbrooks> er
[02:34] <sldkfj> and eyecandy just like Beryl
[02:34] <danielbw> chm = compiled help markup?
[02:34] <bruenig> KingPython, chm is a microsoft format I thought
[02:34] <neozen> daniberg: ...that's not a manufacturer... that's the protocol...
[02:34] <daniberg> but I can see from windows that the conection is wap-psk
[02:34] <kbrooks> does the image "http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/images/code.php" show 7995 for you?
[02:35] <KingPython> bruenig: yes but its so common
[02:35] <Tophe1> Really - Compiz is better than Beryl? Which is less demanding on resources, do you think?
[02:35] <bruenig> KingPython, but it is compiled I mean, I am not saying something exists or not but the format would have to have been reversed engineered
[02:35] <kbrooks> Tophe1, compiz-fusion = compiz + beryl
[02:35] <daniberg> well, I have an acer aspire 3100
[02:35] <KingPython> bruenig: but if you know a format like chm on linux you can advice to me
[02:35] <sldkfj> Tophe1, there is a guy that has eyecandy running on cards with 32megs of ram
[02:35] <wesolek> hello everybody :) I've got a tiny problem, does anybody know where on my ubuntu I can find bittorrent? It says it's installed but I can't find it anywhere :(
[02:35] <sldkfj> Tophe1, compiz-fusion
[02:35] <iari> neozen:  sudo aticonfig -initial                Warning: Could not find configuration file                   Please copy configuration file template to /etc/X11      ??
[02:36] <neozen> daniberg: well.. that's the laptop model... but I'll see what card came in it by default
[02:36] <NigelS> there's a CHM reader in linux so someone clearly understands the format
[02:36] <Tophe1> !? So I guess cards *are* important then.
[02:36] <unagi> anyone use AWN?
[02:36] <neozen> iari: oucheee
[02:36] <KingPython> bruenig: a lot of program on linux read it but now create a new one
[02:36] <bruenig> doc was reverse engineered so it is certainly possible, but even the doc reverse engineer is not completely the same and chm is not as important as that
[02:36] <iari> neozen: What conf file /
[02:36] <ruben> hi all. i was wondering, what kind of widget utils can i use in fluxbox?
[02:36] <Tophe1> Is Compiz-Fusion MORE demanding on resources or LESS demanding on resources than Beryl? Or about the same?
[02:36] <neozen> iari: I honestly can't help you much w/ the ati driver.... never configured an ati card actually
[02:36] <bruenig> Tophe1, #ubuntu-effects
[02:36] <asim> guyz
[02:36] <jrib> natbet: well one thing that looks strange is that the videocard is listed twice, but I'm not sure if it is actually not supposed to look like that.  Why don't you try enabling the screen but not using twinview?  There is some option that just works without requiring you to restart X
[02:36] <neozen> iari: using an intel 950 here
[02:37] <Tophe1> OK, thanks
[02:37] <bruenig> Tophe1, you need a decent graphics card with 3d, that is the only real issue
[02:37] <asim> i cant see the media configuration option in my firefox
[02:37] <asim> how to get that?
[02:37] <daniberg> neozen, ok... In fact the problem is with the connection
[02:37] <sldkfj> Tophe1, compiz fusion is in a place that it's trying to not have the card matter.
[02:37] <neozen> iari: I'm sure someone here can help you out with that
[02:37] <iari> neozen: :) 10x anyway..
[02:37] <daniberg> since the wireless card seems to be fine after ndiswrapper
[02:37] <natbet> jrib: ok, I'll try that
[02:37] <sldkfj> Tophe1, compiz fusion is the current project, and uses less resources
[02:38] <AzMoo[w] > So there's been a couple of vulnerabilities found in kerberos and it needs to be updated. What's the process for that with Ubuntu packages?
[02:39] <bruenig> AzMoo, if it is in the repos, it will show up in update manager, if not then it hasn't been updated, you can get the new version from source and compile if you like
[02:39] <NigelS> AzMoo[w] : the security team will patch and push it out through the security repo
[02:39] <wesolek> can anybody tell me where to find bittorrent on my ubuntu? I'm lost if there is no icon :(
[02:39] <bruenig> wesolek, it is only launched when opening a .torrent file
[02:40] <AzMoo[w] > NigelS: do they need to be notified or is it something they'll pick up?
[02:40] <bruenig> wesolek, the default one that is, there are other clients out there
[02:40] <neozen> AzMoo[w] : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:40] <asim> i cant see the media configuration option in my firefox
[02:40] <simpleH> when installing nvidia-glx through synaptic package manager, should I use nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx
[02:40] <asim> how to get that?
[02:40] <asim> can someone help?
[02:40] <neozen> AzMoo: run that in a terminal
[02:40] <bruenig> !repeat | asim
[02:40] <ubotu> asim: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:40] <wesolek> bruening :) thanks, I installed bittornado (or something like this) and also can't find it... I can't even find 3dchess that I additionally installed :(
[02:41] <AzMoo[w] > neozen: yes, I know, there isn't an update yet. I was looking for information about the process of update creation rather than actually updating. Thanks though.
[02:41] <wesolek> bruenig
[02:41] <andrew_> I can't load music onto my iPod from any application, but I can take it off and play off of it, an ideas?
[02:41] <wesolek> sorry
[02:41] <bruenig> wesolek, well you can alwayd dpkg -L packagename
[02:41] <LouisvilleLIP> Need help with laptop wireless, can see network but can't connect
[02:41] <neozen> AzMoo: ahh... you want to make a new package
[02:41] <bruenig> to see where it puts stuff
[02:41] <sldkfj> asim ???  Edit - Preferences - Content - Filetypes  ???
[02:41] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, is it unencrypted?
[02:42] <neozen> AzMoo: I'm sure such an effort is already underway... I'm sure they're happy to have help
[02:42] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: yes, for now
[02:42] <NigelS> AzMoo[w] : if you know about it , they certainly will, how fast they are in incorporating the patch I can't say
[02:42] <wesolek> thanks, bruenig... is there a way of creating an icon in my "menu start"?
[02:42] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, ok well try doing "sudo iwconfig INTERFACE essid THESSID" then doing "sudo dhclient"
[02:42] <sldkfj> asim, outside of that I'm not sure what is meant by 'media configuration'
[02:42] <bruenig> wesolek, yes you can create a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications, look at the others in that directory to get an understanding of what that looks like
[02:42] <andrew_> I can't load music onto my iPod from any application, but I can take it off and play off of it, anyone have an idea?
[02:43] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, sudo dhclient INTERFACE*
[02:43] <asim> there used to be an option in my firefox
[02:43] <LouisvilleLIP> my router sees my laptop too, but I get nothing when I start firefox
[02:43] <neozen> !ipod
[02:43] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[02:43] <asim> where i could select different programs to run different types of media
[02:43] <crysalys> got a feisty problem, anyone running Feisty on VMware 6?
[02:43] <neozen> andrew_: look into rockbox
[02:43] <bruenig> asim, nobody has any idea what you are talking about when you say media configuration, content was what I was guessing but you seem to say something else
[02:43] <asim> in the 'Tools' menu
[02:43] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: no such device
[02:43] <bruenig> content>filetype
[02:43] <wesolek> thanks bruenig, it was very nice of you :)
[02:44] <andrew_> alright thanks
[02:44] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, what is the name of your INTERFACE
[02:44] <neozen> andrew_: I think rockbox will make your ipod be just a hard drive able to play files you just load onto it when its in drive mode
[02:44] <maxagaz> From Feisty, how can I delete a drawer that is on the HFS+ partition of my MacBook ?
[02:44] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: sorry, not sure how to answer that.  How do I find out?
[02:44] <neozen> have I got that right rockbox users?
[02:44] <asim> i want to open divx files thru my player when i open a divx video in firefox
[02:44] <asim> can u help me do that?
[02:44] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, run iwconfig with no arguments, it will be the one with stuff after it
[02:44] <andrew_> will they appear under music?
[02:45] <crysalys> anyone running Feisty on VMWare
[02:45] <puff> neozen: Has the ipod encrypted firmware been cracked yet?
[02:45] <Stormx2> crysalys: Why?
[02:45] <sldkfj> asim, it may have been removed by an updated version, or perhaps it was an add-on you would pick up at the mozilla site.
[02:45] <neozen> puff: O.o.... didn't know it needed that
[02:45] <neozen> puff: is that within the realm of a newbie to do?
[02:45] <crysalys> Stormx2: got a problem with feisty in vmware...
[02:45] <simpleH> should I use "nv" or "nvidia" when using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:45] <thebigham> how do i install fonts
[02:46] <Stormx2> crysalys: Yeah? What problem?
[02:46] <wimpies> anybody know if there is a special channel for openoffice ?
[02:46] <sldkfj> asim, I'm not sure about divx
[02:46] <thebigham> .ttf
[02:46] <bruenig> simpleH, if you have the nvidia driver installed, go with the second one
[02:46] <Cairna> Hello, I want to completely format my hard drive anew. How do I go about doing that in ubuntu?
[02:46] <neozen> asim: couple plugin possibilities for that
[02:46] <sldkfj> simpleH, depends on the version of you driver
[02:46] <Stormx2> Cairna: No partitions?
[02:46] <andrew_> Is ipod linux worth using?
[02:46] <bruenig> asim, you are probably talking about a plugin
[02:46] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: the most relevant lines say "No DHCPOFFERS received."
[02:46] <neozen> asim: right now I'm using mozilla-mplayer
[02:46] <bruenig> asim, or um add-on
[02:46] <asim> itwasnt an addon
[02:46] <crysalys> stormx2: when ever i put in a cd to rip it, it crashes Fiesty and I have to reboot my whole computer and then restart VMware and then restare Feisty.  Any ideas?
[02:46] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: and "No working leases in persistent databse - sleeping.
[02:46] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, do iwconfig, tell me what the name of the interface is, it will be on the left
[02:46] <civiltechie> Anyone have a recommendation for a solid performing 8+ channel PCI-X hardware RAID card under Ubuntu?
[02:47] <Cairna> Stormx2: My NTFS partition is screwed up. Installing ubuntu after a format is no problem. So yeah, looking for a complete restart
[02:47] <Stormx2> crysalys: None. Its a vmware-specific bug, tho.
[02:47] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: wlan0
[02:47] <neozen> asim: there's also one that uses totem to play videos embedded in pages.... can't really provide an opinion on that
[02:47] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, ok so did you use that earlier in place of INTERFACE in iwconfig INTERFACE essid THESSID
[02:47] <simpleH> bruenig, should I use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[02:47] <T1m3L0rd> anyone good with NAT
[02:47] <Stormx2> Cairna: Well, both ubuntu and windows have the option to erase the entire disk during the install.
[02:47] <crysalys> stormx2: i wondered if that was the case.  My base system is vista, i wondered if that might be the problem too
[02:47] <neozen> Cairna: just boot up an ubuntu installation cd and tell it to wipe the disk
[02:47] <bruenig> simpleH, just go with the defaults if you aren't sure
[02:47] <asim> is mplayer better than totem?
[02:48] <simpleH> ok
[02:48] <neozen> asim: matter of opinion
[02:48] <Stormx2> crysalys: Hmm. I'm sure VMWare has a list of known issues somewhere.
[02:48] <andrew_> bruenig, the Ubuntu community owes you a drink.
[02:48] <asim> hmm
[02:48] <neozen> asim: I happen to think so...
[02:48] <Cairna> Will that have the same effect as a format? I need it... well, completely new.
[02:48] <asim> but how to find that configuration thing?
[02:48] <Cairna> Any terminal command I can use?
[02:48] <neozen> asim: but I'm sure there are others here who could give you reasons why totem is better
[02:48] <sldkfj> asim, have you tried the mplayer site?
[02:48] <neozen> asim: saw something a few minutes ago.....
[02:48] <bruenig> mplayer is better as a plugin because it has better format support
[02:48] <Stormx2> Cairna: Well, you could probably erase everything with fdisk, but you might as well kill 2 birds with 1 stone and do it at install-time.
[02:49] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: I did sudo dhclient wlan0
[02:49] <civiltechie> Anyone have a recommendation for a solid performing 8+ channel PCI-X hardware RAID card under Ubuntu?
[02:49] <crysalys> Stormx2: im sure they do.  I will have to try to find it someware.  How hard is it to dual boot vista and feisty, straight off the hard drive?
[02:49] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, right but if you didn't do the iwconfig command right, then your card won't be requesting an ip address from the right access point
[02:49] <Cairna> Well, I plan to use my HP recovery disc with windows vista ( :/ ) right after the format
[02:49] <neozen> civiltechie: that's a nicely worded and very specific question
[02:49] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, put your full iwconfig command that you used
[02:49] <sldkfj> asim, google:  mplayer divx
[02:49] <bruenig> paste*
[02:49] <Cairna> I have 6.06 LTS, and when it partitions NTFS, it ah... fucks up windows vista, sadly ( sorta )
[02:49] <Stormx2> crysalys: Super-easy. Ubuntu automatically recognises windows on install, and sets up grub appropriately.
[02:49] <neozen> civiltechie: hopefully someone here will have an answer for you soon
[02:50] <bruenig> Cairna, that
[02:50] <bruenig> Cairna, that's a feature
[02:50] <Stormx2> !ohmy | Cairna
[02:50] <ubotu> Cairna: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:50] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: I have only run it with no args
[02:50] <puff> I'm on ubuntu feisty, I just upgraded flash to 9.0 r48, and this appears to not be playing:  http://www.metacafe.com/watch/545672/unlock_plastic_handcuffs_police_style/
[02:50] <Cairna> Apologies.
[02:50] <kevb_uk> can someone tell me how to remove a known key from ssh, if i look in ~/.ssh/known_hosts it makes no sense to me, it doesn't seem to have IP addresses or hostnames which I assumed it would
[02:50] <puff> Anyone selse able to make it play?
[02:50] <lashmoove> I get a different grub splash on bootup t then on shutdown. I would like them to be the same, when I use  'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so' it shows a * by my prefered selection(which shows on shutdown), but a + by the selection that's being used on startup
[02:50] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, ok what is the ssid of the access point
[02:50] <crysalys> Stormx2: do i install vista first or Feisty?
[02:50] <Stormx2> crysalys: Vista first.
[02:50] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: BrokenNetwork
[02:50] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: ironic, I know
[02:50] <Cairna> bruenig, awfull advanced feature seeing as 6.06 is before vista's time
[02:51] <chowmeined> kevb_uk: they were hashed
[02:51] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, do sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid BrokenNetwork, then do the dhclient again
[02:51] <bruenig> Cairna, beta was out
[02:51] <puff> neozen: Sorry, saw you getting the ipod info from uboto and thought you might be up on the topic.
[02:51] <Stormx2> crysalys: It's a bit of a hassle installing windows after ubuntu, because windows doesn't beleive that other operating systems exist and proceeds to overwrite ubuntu's boot loader (grub)
[02:51] <MajorPayne> kevb_uk: You can just do a rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts and that will fix your problem.  But doing that every time is a bit less secure since it removes all keys.
[02:51] <chowmeined> kevb_uk: to prevent exploits from getting a bunch of hostname/fingerprints if they scanned your file
[02:51] <crysalys> Stormx2: Can I boot them off of the same hard drive?
[02:51] <Stormx2> crysalys: You can.
[02:51] <Cairna> Oooh, I should get the beta.
[02:51] <lobo_nz> Im having trouble the nvidia kernel, I can startx fine untill I reboot, then a modprobe -r nvidia followed by modprobe -i nvidia is needed to startx again, the error says all the modules match but "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!" any ideas why I can manually unload/load the module and things work ok but it  loads and wont initialize after reboot would be greatly appreciated
[02:51] <Stormx2> crysalys: You'll need seperate partitions tho.
[02:51] <chowmeined> kevb_uk: if you try to go to a host and it says the key doesn't match, it gives you the line number so you know which one to delete
[02:51] <sldkfj> puff, yeah I got it to play
[02:52] <Cairna> Well, I'm off to try what you suggested stormx2, sorry for my un-family friendlyness
[02:52] <jrib> kevb_uk: you can turn it off with  HashKnownHosts no  in your ssh config if you want
[02:52] <Stormx2> crysalys: I assume you mean hard disk drive, yeah? A windows "drive" (such as C:) is actually a partition.
[02:52] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: you are a Golden God
[02:52] <Stormx2> Cairna: S'okay ;-) Good luck!
[02:52] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, remember those commands, they are very helpful when gui isn't fairing well
[02:52] <Cairna> How big is 7.04, by the way?
[02:52] <Stormx2> Cairna: 600mb.
[02:53] <kevb_uk> chowmeined: cheers dude, gonna try that now
[02:53] <Funa> !usbfs > me
[02:53] <kevb_uk> chowmeined: didnt see the line number before : )
[02:53] <Stormx2> Cairna: On a CD that is. Installed, it is significantly more.
[02:53] <crysalys> Stormx2: yes, i want to dual boot my laptop.  It has a single 160 gig HD and I want to partition it so I can dual boot with Feisty
[02:53] <chowmeined> kevb_uk: just be sure that you meant for the key to be changed
[02:53] <kitche> Funa: /msg the bot
[02:53] <Cairna> Ah, so it's a big download
[02:53] <chowmeined> kevb_uk: otherwise it means somebody is trying to intercept your communications
[02:53] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: Will I have to do it everytime I log on to this network?  What about others?
[02:54] <Cairna> Wish me luck
[02:54] <bruenig> LouisvilleLIP, well in one way or another, there are guis that make it easier. Ubuntu tends to go with the networkmanager panel applet that does this but in a point and click fashion
[02:54] <sldkfj> Cairna, installed several gigs on a CD it is less than < 700megs
[02:54] <kevb_uk> chowmeined: yeah, is on my local network... i have bought a new pc : )
[02:54] <puff> sldkfj: I can get the nano to play, I can get songs onto it (though sometimes they corrupted, somehow, not sure what's up wtih that but when I select them from the nano UI it just skips through every song in the album).
[02:54] <puff> sldkfj: What I *can't* seem to do is write playlists to the nano.
[02:55] <Cairna> *poof*
[02:55] <LouisvilleLIP> bruenig: ok, so, if all else fails, this should do it.  Thanks a lot for your help
[02:55] <Stormx2> crysalys: The best way to do things is to have 4 partitions. 1) / (for ubuntu) 2) /home (for ubuntu) 3) swap (for ubuntu) 4) Your Vista partition
[02:55] <rustalot> anybody know a large tech store that might have VIA Mico-ITX mobos? I've tried NewEgg and NCIX.
[02:55] <sldkfj> puff, I don't know about nano stuff
[02:55] <sldkfj> sorry
[02:55] <Stormx2> crysalys: You can put your media, music, videos etc on the 2nd or 4th and both operating systems will be able to read em.
[02:56] <crysalys> Stormx2: gotcha, sop for ubuntu . . . very useful information.  is this new to Feisty or has that been a feature of all previous versions?
[02:57] <nexous> I am dualbooting xp and 7.04 on my notebook now, I want to redo 7.04 to server edition, will i have to delete then recreate the partitions or will ubuntu install overwrite?
[02:57] <crysalys> Stormx2: the music part I mean
[02:57] <rustalot> crysalys: the /home partition should be FAT32 in order to have Vista read it.
[02:57] <Stormx2> crysalys: Well, previous versions didn't have write support for NTFS (Vista's filesystem) but now it's perfect :D
[02:57] <bruenig> crysalys, no bad idea, don't fat32 the home partition
[02:58] <crysalys> rustalot: thats good to know
[02:58] <Stormx2> Don't FAT32 anything ;-)
[02:58] <bruenig> crysalys, fat32 doesn't allow per file permissions which is necessary for the /home partition to function properly, unless you don't really care about logging in
[02:58] <crysalys> Stormx2: rustalot mentioned Fat 32.  Is that not necessary then?
[02:58] <Stormx2> Not necessary and not recommended.
[02:58] <bruenig> crysalys, if you want to create an auxiliary fat32 partition good, but don't make any part of the linux filesystem fat32
[02:58] <rustalot> crysalys, bruenig: Sorry, I forgot about that.
[02:59] <Stormx2> bruenig: Not good. Why use FAT32 at all?
[02:59] <rustalot> FAT32 is widely supported
[02:59] <bruenig> Stormx2, native support in windows and linux, easy partition to share files between
[02:59] <Stormx2> bruenig: Windows can read ext3, ubuntu can read ntfs, why use an outdated and inferior fs?
[02:59] <Stormx2> Uhggg
[02:59] <Stormx2> That is a very small gain
[02:59] <crysalys> Stormx2: ok. no fat 32.  so everything is ntfs
[02:59] <bruenig> you can install drivers in both if you want too
[02:59] <Stormx2> crysalys: Keep the ubuntu stuff ext3
[03:00] <crysalys> if i dont have to use FAT i wont
[03:00] <rustalot> Windows can't reat ext3, at least not without fscking up the journal / POSIX  permissions
[03:00] <Stormx2> Good.
[03:00] <Stormx2> rustalot: Erm, what?
[03:00] <Stormx2> rustalot: I've been using ext3 from windows for years now.
[03:00] <deathspell> Anyone here uses the no-ip client? If I add "/usr/local/bin/noip2" to sessions, will it run on startup?
[03:00] <bruenig> crysalys, yeah you can just install fs-driver.org on windows and access your linux stuff within windows, probably easiest way to go about it if you don't want fat32
[03:01] <crysalys> bruenig: ok
[03:01] <rustalot> I'm pretty sure that Windows can't do POSIX file permissions
[03:01] <jrib> deathspell: well it would run when you login
[03:01] <Stormx2> FAT32 is awful. Huge limitations on characters, filesize, permissions (or lack thereof), and generally just outdated.
[03:01] <bruenig> true
[03:01] <thebigham> where is the font directory?
[03:01] <bruenig> /usr/share/fonts?
[03:01] <AzMoo[w] > rustalot: the fs lib probably translates them to windows perms.
[03:01] <crysalys> now i need to get the mp3 codec for ripping.
[03:02] <bruenig> !codecs | crysalys
[03:02] <jrib> thebigham: ~/.fonts to install fonts for your user
[03:02] <ubotu> crysalys: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:02] <rustalot> OTOH, Fat32 is supported on nearly every platform
[03:02] <jrib> !fonts > thebigham (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:02] <crysalys> but they are illegal where i live
[03:02] <bruenig> crysalys, we won't tell ;)
[03:03] <Stormx2> rustalot: So is ext3 >.<
[03:03] <crysalys> yeah but i dont want my ip traced. call me paranoid i guess
[03:03] <andrew_> the law only deters people who fear getting caught
[03:03] <Stormx2> rustalot: And who cares about exotic platforms? This guy is using windows and ubuntu.
[03:03] <rustalot> I suppose, but I don't trust my ext3 to a non-UNIX system
[03:04] <crysalys> can i remove the country code and download the codecs from UK?
[03:04] <andrew_> If they tracked everyone who downloaded illegal codecs, thered be no time to chase pot-smokers.  It would work out either way for alot of us.
[03:04] <bruenig> crysalys, you can, but you realize that the only thing that will know your ip is the ubuntu repos right?
[03:04] <waltercool> hi there... someone know how force a mount?
[03:05] <bruenig> waltercool, what have you been using to try to mount it
[03:05] <neozen> waltercool: what kind of filesystem?
[03:05] <bruenig> crysalys, it isn't like bittorrent or something similar where you have a bunch of parties and ips floating around
[03:05] <waltercool> i have a ext3 partition... but appear like ntfs
[03:05] <roxygirl> hey, has any one had troubles transferring files to media devices from amarok?
[03:06] <crysalys> thats true i guess.
[03:06] <roxygirl> i can't get files onto my mp3 player
[03:06] <neozen> roxygirl: ipod?
[03:06] <andrew_> Im still having this iPod problem, can't load it, everything else is fine.  What kind of bug?
[03:06] <dissection> Can't locate configuration file /usr/local/etc/no-ip2.conf. (Try -c). Ending!
[03:06] <rustalot> crysalys: give in to your inner communist! :P
[03:06] <dissection> I get that error when I run no ip client.. please help
[03:06] <neozen> andrew_: not a bug... "feature" of ipod
[03:06] <andrew_> Haha
[03:06] <andrew_> Exactly.
[03:06] <Stormx2> dissection: locate no-ip2.conf ?
[03:06] <roxygirl> neozen: no iriver H10
[03:06] <neozen> andrew_: doesn't play files just loaded on device
[03:06] <bruenig> waltercool, what command did you use previous to try to mount it?
[03:07] <neozen> roxygirl: O.o ... good
[03:07] <rustalot> andrew_ : are they mp3, or ogg?
[03:07] <neozen> roxygirl: does the device mount ok?
[03:07] <andrew_> mp3
[03:07] <crysalys> sorry i have played around with several versions of ubuntu, but i have not been desisive about any version until feisty
[03:07] <crysalys> I guess I will just download them
[03:07] <roxygirl> in amarok it seems to be recognizing it
[03:07] <jrib> dissection: you know 'no-ip' is packaged in ubuntu's repos?
[03:07] <Scrippie> hi
[03:07] <roxygirl> but not always consistently
[03:07] <neozen> crysalys: either download dapper.... or whatever the latest is
[03:07] <andrew_> Im using Banshee, but nothing is loading my iPod.
[03:08] <unagi> is there quicktime for linuix?
[03:08] <roxygirl> is there anywhere else i can check if it's mounting?
[03:08] <crysalys> neozen: why do that?
[03:08] <bruenig> unagi, codecs to play .movs
[03:08] <dissection> jrib: Oh, I had no idea. I had downloaded it from their website and installed it. How do I remove it now? :S
[03:08] <neozen> crysalys: dapper is 6.06.1
[03:08] <jrib> !quicktime > unagi (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:08] <Scrippie> ??
[03:08] <jrib> dissection: what command did you use to install it?
[03:08] <neozen> crysalys: edgy is no longer supported
[03:08] <neozen> crysalys: edgy is = to 6.10
[03:08] <dissection> jrib: "make", and "sudo make install"
[03:08] <jrib> neozen: edgy is still supported
[03:08] <crysalys> neozen: i have all of the version all the way back to Hoary...
[03:09] <bruenig> what about grumpy groundhog?
[03:09] <jrib> dissection: try 'sudo make uninstall' in the same place you did 'sudo make install' but it is not guaranteed to work
[03:09] <milllmannn> anyone have a good resource for setting up Postfix + MYSQL?
[03:09] <jayde_drag01> can someone please help me.. i have finally found a fix to a porblem i'm having.. but one key piece is eluding me... and i am a newbie
[03:09] <neozen> bruenig: you mean gusty gibbon?
[03:09] <bruenig> !anyone | jayde_drag01
[03:09] <ubotu> jayde_drag01: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:09] <neozen> jrib: suppose it depends on your definition of support
[03:09] <bruenig> neozen, no there was a grumpy groundhog used by developers or some such a while back
[03:09] <jayde_drag01> i wanrt to run this "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /media/mydrive -o force"
[03:09] <dissection> jrib: It says make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[03:09] <jayde_drag01> but i don't knwo what to put behind /dev/
[03:10] <jayde_drag01> and i don't knwo how to find that answer
[03:10] <neozen> bruenig: hoary hedgehog perhaps
[03:10] <jrib> dissection: yeah... then you either have to remove it manually or use checkinstall to install it again and then remove it with APT
[03:10] <jrib> !checkinstall > dissection (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:10] <unagi> so the answer is no there is not quicktime for linux?
[03:10] <jrib> neozen: security updates
[03:10] <bruenig> jayde_drag01, I don't believe force is an option, the man page at least doesn't indicate that it is
[03:10] <crysalys> i didnt have grumpy but i do have hoary and i will have Gusty when i can get it
[03:10] <neozen> unagi: well.. you can PLAY quicktime's just fine
[03:10] <neozen> unagi: (I haven't had any issues)
[03:11] <roxygirl> neozen: any suggestions for me?
[03:11] <jayde_drag01> i can't mount a drive
[03:11] <neozen> unagi: but as far as creation of them.... and the actual real quicktime interface... no I don't think so...
[03:11] <jayde_drag01> i get  $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[03:11] <jayde_drag01> Failed to mount '/dev/hdd1': Operation not supported
[03:11] <jayde_drag01> Mount is denied because NTFS logfile is unclean. Choose one action:
[03:11] <jayde_drag01> Boot Windows and shutdown it cleanly, or if you have a removable
[03:11] <jayde_drag01> device then click the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows
[03:11] <jayde_drag01> taskbar notification area before disconnecting it.
[03:11] <jrib> !paste | jayde_drag01
[03:11] <ubotu> jayde_drag01: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:11] <unagi> i can play quicktime's too......but im looking for if quicktime exists for linux
[03:11] <jayde_drag01> basically
[03:11] <neozen> roxygirl: still chewing on your problem
[03:11] <bruenig> neozen, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/GrumpyGroundhog
[03:11] <jayde_drag01> ooh i'm sorry
[03:11] <neozen> bruenig: O.o
[03:11] <bruenig> jayde_drag01, is this a windows drive?
[03:11] <neozen> bruenig: news to me...
[03:11] <jayde_drag01> it was yes
[03:11] <jayde_drag01> but i do not have windows any more
[03:11] <jayde_drag01> so i can't just reboot and shut down normally
[03:12] <jayde_drag01> AND i cannot lose my data
[03:12] <Stormx2> jayde_drag01: I think you can clean the log, hold on
[03:12] <bruenig> jayde_drag01, consider mounting read only with ntfs and copying it over
[03:12] <jayde_drag01> oooh you guys rock soo hard.. you have no idea
[03:12] <Stormx2> jayde_drag01: sudo ntfsfix /dev/hdd1
[03:12] <jayde_drag01> i have no idea how to do that other than right click mount
[03:12] <unagi> is hibernation suposedly going to be fixed in gutsy?
[03:13] <jayde_drag01> well hang on hdd1 is not the right command
[03:13] <jayde_drag01> i copied and pasted someone elses error because it wouldn't let me copy and paste mine
[03:13] <jayde_drag01> let me try and get the right answer for you
[03:13] <dissection> jrib: That warning is scary ;[
[03:13] <bruenig> jayde_drag01, don't use -o force anymore, but it would be the same command you gave but with -t ntfs instead of -t ntfs-3g
[03:13] <jayde_drag01> and i still need the drives to be read AND write when i'm done
[03:13] <nir_ai> hi, is it possible that my user-name does not appear in /etc/passwd ?
[03:14] <jrib> dissection: it's a bit exaggerated imo
[03:14] <bruenig> jayde_drag01, do you have enough room on your other disks to copy all the data off of it?
[03:14] <crysalys> ok, well thanks everyone! i am going to try my dual boot now.  How much room does Feisty need to run properly?
[03:14] <jayde_drag01> failed to mount dev/hde1
[03:14] <bruenig> jayde_drag01, do you have enough room on your other disks to copy all the data off of it?
[03:14] <dissection> jrib: Im a newbie, maybe it'll mess up my system
[03:14] <jrib> nir_ai: possible, but doesn't sound good/normal
[03:14] <dissection> jrib: How do I manually remove No IP?
[03:15] <bruenig> crysalys, 2 gig minimum I think they say, but to be safe probably want to go with at least 8-10
[03:15] <jayde_drag01> sorta but thats not really an option i'd like to go with if i can avoid it.. i've got 60gigs of music on one drive and 50gigs of video on the other
[03:15] <unagi> anyone know where to find stock footage?
[03:15] <jrib> dissection: you have to delete the file manually
[03:15] <crysalys> ok thanks everyone!!
[03:15] <crysalys> chia
[03:15] <bruenig> jayde_drag01, my point is that if you can copy all of the stuff off of it, you can format the drives as ext3 since you don't use windows anymore and that way you won't have to rely on reverse engineered ntfs drivers but can use native linux filesystems
[03:15] <bruenig> and then you can move it all back
[03:16] <dissection> jrib: The instructions said I should run "/usr/local/bin/noip2" to execute it. So is that the file I need to remove, and the .conf file? Are these two files the only ones to be removed?
[03:16] <jrib> dissection: I don't know
[03:16] <dissection> :(
[03:16] <ethan> hello
[03:16] <bruenig> dissection, how did you install it?
[03:16] <bruenig> !hi | ethan
[03:16] <ubotu> ethan: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:16] <dissection> bruenig: I typed sudo make install
[03:16] <nir_ai> jrib, how do I determine a user's shell if their name does not appear in /etc/passwd ?
[03:16] <whonicca> compiz has to be the mos unstable program out, how come when i enable desktop effects all my title bars are messed up, no minimize or maximize buttons
[03:16] <jayde_drag01> i know.. totally logical... the problem is that my external drive is ona 1.1 usb... and this will take 3 days to copy over.. then 3 more days to copy back
[03:17] <jayde_drag01> i don't have that kind of time or patience
[03:17] <bruenig> dissection, do you still have that directory that you typed sudo make install in on your hard drive, the source directory?
[03:17] <ethan> this is nothing like aim is it? i think i just downloaded the completely wrong thing
[03:17] <bruenig> jayde_drag01, 1.1 wow
[03:17] <dissection> bruenig: yes
[03:17] <rustalot> How do I get the Magnatune store in Amarok?
[03:17] <jayde_drag01> yah.. even tho it says i have usb2.0 ports...
[03:17] <CTho> how can I install the nvidia binary driver for multiple kernel versions at the same time?
[03:17] <bruenig> jayde_drag01, well that other guy said it could be cleaned, the log could be cleaned, I only know of the reboot with windows and shutdown method so wait for him I guess
[03:17] <roxygirl> neozan:  should i try a different program?
[03:18] <jayde_drag01> every usb port i plug into is sluggish an=d GROSSLY slow
[03:18] <richter> hahahuahuahahuahua...
[03:18] <hypertyper> can anyone let me pick their brain for a sec? i have a program that needs to be run with sudo that i want to run when i log in, possibly with a delay. quick and dirty is fine, i just want it to work.
[03:18] <bruenig> dissection, ok well cd into that directory and do "sudo make uninstall"
[03:18] <jayde_drag01> what will happen if i try to force mount?
[03:18] <jayde_drag01> anything bad?
[03:18] <bruenig> jayde_drag01, -o force is not even an option, in the mount man page they don't have it listed, it likely just ignores it
[03:19] <whonicca> is there a specific channel for desktop effect related issues?
[03:19] <bruenig> hypertyper, ok what is the name of the program?
[03:19] <AzMoo[w] > hypertyper: you can set up sudo to allow you to run a specific program without a password, but I'm not exactly sure how anymore. man sudo
[03:19] <sniff_> eth0:avah <-- fro what?
[03:20] <bruenig> hypertyper, I mean what is the command to launch the program
[03:20] <bruenig> who_cares, #ubuntu-effects
[03:20] <rustalot> whonicca: #ubuntu-effects
[03:20] <whonicca> thanks
[03:20] <hypertyper> bruenig: currently, i'm running from the console as follows: sudo -i (enter) sk8135pcm /dev/input/event6 &
[03:21] <bruenig> hypertyper, ok do "which sk8135pcm" and paste the output
[03:21] <jayde_drag01> how do i mount it in read only so i can run the ntfs config tool on it.. i really want to avoid the copying of files
[03:21] <bruenig> jayde_drag01, ntfs-config doesn't do anything, it configures the fstab I believe, someone may correct me
[03:21] <hypertyper> bruenig:  /usr/bin/sk8135-pcm
[03:21] <jayde_drag01> it allolws you to change the properties ro read AND write
[03:21] <dissection> bruenig: Did you have a message for me? I got disconnected and may have missed it.
[03:21] <bruenig> hypertyper, ok do you know how to use vim?
[03:21] <andrew_> rustalot:could it have to do with my computer not letting me install libgpod-dev?
[03:22] <hypertyper> bruenig: is that a text editor?
[03:22] <bruenig> dissection, did you get the sudo make uninstall message?
[03:22] <rustalot> andrew_: I really have no idea.
[03:22] <jayde_drag01> or at least run ntfsfix on them like it asks me to do
[03:22] <dissection> bruenig: No, and I tried that but it didn't work. It said no target
[03:22] <hypertyper> bruenig: i use gedit, but whichever. hit me with a script, my man.
[03:22] <noldon> hi im running ubuntu 6.06 for x86 right now and r about to install 7.04 for amd64 and i have my home on one partition and my root on another,
[03:23] <bruenig> hypertyper, um do this then: EDITOR=gedit && sudo visudo, tell me if it pops up or not
[03:23] <jayde_drag01> and if i have a drive already that i want to format top the linux filesystem.. HOW do i do that?
[03:23] <dissection> bruenig: .. No rule to make target 'uninstall' Stop
[03:23] <bruenig> dissection, ok so you just extracted the tarball again
[03:23] <dissection> bruenig: http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9228/screenshotwotanistrendenc5.png
[03:23] <bruenig> dissection, this isn't the exact same directory, this is a fresh one
[03:23] <hypertyper> bruenig: hmm... nano.
[03:24] <noldon> and i wounder if i can install the amd64 ubuntu on my root and it wont bother that my home is from a x86 installation
[03:24] <bruenig> hypertyper, well you can handle nano I'm sure
[03:24] <bruenig> hypertyper, what is your username?
[03:24] <dissection> bruenig: I typed it in the same terminal window from where I installed it
[03:24] <hypertyper> bruenig: is that important?
[03:24] <ShackJack> noldon: nope, won't matter the fileysystems are the same...
[03:24] <noldon> ok so i dont have to worry then
[03:24] <ShackJack> noldon: Those x64 version of Ubuntu may have some issues with drivers, flash, et al..
[03:24] <noldon> thanx
[03:25] <jrib> nir_ai: their name *should* appear in /etc/passwd afaik
[03:25] <anandanbu> I have installed ubuntu 7.04 and now how do i install xubuntu inm y system
[03:25] <noldon> ShackJack ok
[03:25] <D0wN> Hi, when I try to install a package through Synaptic package manager, I get this: "Depends: gtk2-engines-aurora but it is not going to be installed". Does anyone know of a way to fix that?
[03:25] <bruenig> hypertyper, well add this line to this file, put it at the bottom of the file: YOURUSERNAME ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/sk8135pcm /dev/input/event6 &
[03:25] <hypertyper> bruenig: allow me to rephrase. what would you like me to do with it?
[03:25] <ShackJack> anandanbu: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop :)
[03:25] <noldon> well then i go back using x86  after i tried the 64
[03:25] <hypertyper> gah, i type too slowly ;0
[03:25] <jayde_drag01> how do i run ntfsfix version 1.13.1 on these drives... it tells me i can do that
[03:25] <anandanbu> shackjack: thanks
[03:25] <jayde_drag01> but i don't knwo the code
[03:26] <noldon> as long as my home stays as it is
[03:26] <jrib> dissection: installing the ubuntu packaging and doing 'dpkg -L' will probably give you some hints (packages install to /usr instead of /usr/local where make install usually puts things by default).  But checkinstall really is the easy way to go here
[03:26] <jayde_drag01> know.. (why can i never type it right)
[03:26] <ShackJack> noldon: Yep it will -- the filesystems are x386 x64 agnostic...
[03:26] <bruenig> hypertyper, save and exit
[03:26] <anandanbu> shackjack: it says "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[03:26] <noldon> ok thanx
[03:27] <D0wN> =\
[03:27] <hypertyper> bruenig: ok, now what?
[03:27] <ShackJack> anandanbu: That's how you install it at any rate... problem with your aptitude/apt-get?  Maybe try an update first?
[03:27] <noldon> btw when i reinstall grub after windows messing it up should i mount my root partition and chroot into it and then run grub?
[03:28] <Andyho> hello
[03:28] <ShackJack> !hi | Andyho
[03:28] <ubotu> Andyho: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:28] <dissection> Emm, I don't know. It gives a warning and says I should be ready with the LiveCD, that looked like a high probability of me screwing it up and thats almost always the case
[03:28] <martyrnc> hello
[03:28] <bruenig> hypertyper, you know what, there might actually be a better way to do this, this can be run at any time during boot right? gnome doesn't need to be loaded does it?
[03:28] <Andyho> my nvidia card is driving me up a wall LOL
[03:28] <hypertyper> yeah, i think x has to be up
[03:29] <roxygirl> hey anybody:  i'm tryin to sync my iriver mp3 player with amarok, but the files won't transfer.  any ideas?
[03:29] <ShackJack> Andyho: WHich kind is it?
[03:29] <italianninja> mplayer wont play xvid anyone help me
[03:29] <rustalot> hey guys, how do I get the magnatune store in Amarok?
[03:29] <hypertyper> bruenig: can i pm you, i'm having a hard time digging through the flak, here
[03:29] <bruenig> hypertyper, oh x does, ok well then we are doing it right: go to system>preferences>sessions and then the startup commands tab and add: sudo /usr/bin/sk8135pcm /dev/input/event6 &
[03:29] <ShackJack> italianninja: You have gstreamer plugins installed?
[03:29] <dissection> Anyone here has installed the No-IP client from their websites and know what files need to be deleted?
[03:29] <Torahteen> Hi everyone, is there a way for me to install ubuntu Feisty Fawn without losing my current installation?
[03:29] <bruenig> hypertyper, that is the last step ^
[03:29] <italianninja> ShackJack: i dont know. im new to ubuntu
[03:30] <Netham45> Is there an equivalant to XP's network bridging in Ubuntu?
[03:30] <hypertyper> k, thanks. i suppose i should reboot now?
[03:30] <italianninja> ShackJack: and its driving me crazy already
[03:30] <Netham45> if so, how do I use it/
[03:30] <Torahteen> Anyone?
[03:30] <ShackJack> Check 'em out in the Add/Remove programs thing... Or, better yet, install VLC Player (same place) it plays EVERYTHING!
[03:30] <bruenig> hypertyper, sure
[03:30] <martyrnc> hello new to ubuntu and linux, Just got my dell laptop with feisty fawn ubuntu on it.
[03:30] <Andyho> Shack: It's a GeForce 6200
[03:30] <Torahteen> I have xubuntu 7.04 cd, so where to go from there?
[03:30] <bruenig> vlc plays everything because it has static codecs installed not because it has done anything
[03:30] <ShackJack> italianninja: Proprietary things like Xvid, mp3, etc.. aren't included by default but are trivial to add ib...
[03:30] <hypertyper> alright. i'll be back in a few on my windows box when whatever you had me put in that sensitive system file fries my ubuntu install
[03:31] <dissection> jrib: http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9228/screenshotwotanistrendenc5.png <-- Thats the screenshot of the installation.. Can you check that and tell me what files from where I need to delete, for a manual removal?
[03:31] <hypertyper> just kidding.
[03:31] <bruenig> you install the same codecs and you can get any player to play what vlc does
[03:31] <italianninja> ShackJack: vlc wont play anything either
[03:31] <LouisvilleLIP> is possiblt/reasonable to change my laptop's memory allocation so that it doesn't lag?  I've only got 512 and it chugs a little bit
[03:32] <martyrnc> ok newbee here is there java for ubuntu
[03:32] <Andyho> Every time I install it it'll make it part way through startup, then hangs.. then I switch it back to the default and it goes back to a command line.. so then I reconfigure it to the default.. LOL!
[03:32] <ShackJack> italianninja: Check out the Totem built in player and instadd the gstreamer plugins "ugly" good" and "ffmpeg"
[03:32] <Andyho> I hear it's a standard issue... along with my officejet not wanting to scan LOL
[03:32] <jrib> dissection: use the 'dpkg -L no-ip' trick after installing no-ip from the repos.  It will list the files.  Just keep in mind that you want to delete from /usr/local and not from /usr
[03:33] <ShackJack> italianninja: In fact if you have 7.04 it should prompt you when using Movie Player to install right plug in to play the file..
[03:33] <ShackJack> Andyho: gotta use full IM name or it don't beep me (hint: Tab)
[03:33] <ShackJack> Andyho: What's the problem.. those should go in like buttah?
[03:34] <Netham45> !subnetting
[03:34] <ShackJack> Andyho: wait nevermind - I saw
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about subnetting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <italianninja> ShackJack: dont know what version im running?
[03:34] <Netham45> =/
[03:34] <Andyho> LOL np
[03:34] <AzMoo[w] > martyrnc: /j #jetspeed
[03:34] <bruenig> dissection, switch into that directory, run ./configure make then sudo make uninstall
[03:34] <AzMoo[w] > oops
[03:34] <ShackJack> italianninja: Open you system monitor (under admin and check out the first tab)
[03:34] <jerbull88> does anyone know how to get a slave hdd to mount automatically
[03:34] <bruenig> !paste | dissection also this would be preferred next time
[03:34] <ubotu> dissection also this would be preferred next time: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:35] <bruenig> jerbull88, add it to /etc/fstab
[03:35] <AzMoo[w] > Man, it's all going well for me at the moment.
[03:35] <AzMoo[w] > martyrnc: ignore that, I slipped.
[03:35] <jerbull88> brue im not totally sure what commands to use
[03:35] <dissection> Uhm, I didn't flood the channel, bruenig
[03:35] <bruenig> dissection, it is easier to read than an image
[03:35] <dissection> bruenig: ./configure does not do anything
[03:35] <rombel>  why evolution can receive mail but cannot send
[03:35] <ShackJack> Andyho: you might try just reinstalling nvidia-glx and of course double checking your xorg has nvidia as the driver...
[03:35] <bruenig> dissection, then how did you install it the first time?
[03:36] <dissection> bruenig: I just typed make and make install.. no ./configure
[03:36] <bruenig> dissection, them type make make uninstall
[03:36] <jerbull88> how do i add my slave hdd to fstab
[03:36] <archoniam> Hiyas! Anyone know why the heck my computer is outputting this error? Error is: /var/tmp/iFSWNmEAAiTAInQHagQZI/installscript.sh: 4: /home/archoniam/Linux: not found
[03:37] <bruenig> jerbull88, what is the /dev/name of the drive, what is its filesystem and what is its desired mount point?
[03:37] <revilodraw> amarok uses way too much of my cpu % and lags heaps.. using feisty on a 2ghz core 2 duo w 2gb ram
[03:37] <Andyho> Shack: yeah I tried that.. I actually tried the glx and the glx-galaxy and got rid of the restricted since someone told me that that mighta been giving a conflict, but no such luck.. then I switched between nvidia and nv.. but still a no go..
[03:37] <Netham45> does anyone know if Ubuntu Linux has an equivalant of Windows XP's network bridging? If so, where, and how do I configure it? A How-To would be most appricated.
[03:37] <dissection> bruenig: When I type make, it says "noip2" is up to date, but when I type make uninstall, it says "No rule to make target 'uninstall'
[03:37] <yeko> did you fdisk the slave yet?
[03:37] <_Elmore> question: what's a good gui based backup program for Linux?
[03:37] <jrib> !backup > _Elmore (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:37] <archoniam> Last time I tried it said it had permission denied. It must have stopped smoking crack or sumthin'.
[03:37] <jerbull88> name disk filesystem ext3 idk mount point
[03:37] <ShackJack> italianninja: at any rate, look for gstreamer under add/remove and install appropriate plugins (read descriptions)
[03:37] <yeko> mondo is the best backup I have used
[03:37] <rombel>  why evolution can receive mail but cannot send
[03:37] <jrib> _Elmore: I liked sbackup when I tried it
[03:37] <bruenig> dissection, perhaps that package doesn't have an uninstall option almost all packages do, you will need to trace down every file it installed and delete it manually
[03:37] <_Elmore> k thanks
[03:38] <_Elmore> jrib, is it free?
[03:38] <dissection> bruenig: How do I do that?
[03:38] <_Elmore> under the gpl licence?
[03:38] <Andyho> brb
[03:38] <jrib> _Elmore: yes, it is in the repos.  I don't know if it is specifically gpl
[03:38] <bruenig> jerbull88, no the /dev/name, it needs to have something like /dev/hda1
[03:38] <_Elmore> ok
[03:38] <ShackJack> _Elmore: there's a GNOME front end for rsync called GRsync - really powerful...
[03:38] <_Elmore> long as its free i don't care
[03:38] <_Elmore> ok
[03:38] <_Elmore> thanks
[03:38] <bruenig> dissection, go trace down all the files and delete them
[03:39] <bruenig> dissection, however you need to do that, /usr/local is probably where it is all contained, start there
[03:39] <archoniam> ...Allo?
[03:39] <jerbull88> brue since its a slave wouldnt the name be /dev/hab1?
[03:39] <ShackJack> !hi | archoniam
[03:39] <ubotu> archoniam: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:39] <italianninja> how does fedora compare to ubuntu?
[03:39] <jerbull88> srry hda1
[03:39] <_Elmore> thanks again everyone, goodnight!
[03:39] <revilodraw> amarok uses way too much of my cpu % and lags heaps.. using feisty on a dell inspiron 6400 2ghz core 2 duo w 2gb ram
[03:39] <bruenig> jerbull88, do sudo fdisk -l, it has a definite name
[03:39] <ShackJack> italianninja: Ubuntu easier to use and better community :P
[03:40] <revilodraw> italianninja: it doesnt lol
[03:40] <yeko> when you fdisk the drive, you will know what /dev/hxx you will mount
[03:40] <bruenig> I say they are about the same
[03:40] <italianninja> ShackJack: lol so why is nothing working for me
[03:40] <yeko> you have to fdisk first and make the filesystem
[03:40] <hypertyper> bruenig: didn't work, but i'm not concerned. i'll end up making a shortcut for it, or figure it out later.
[03:40] <ShackJack> revilodraw: Maybe check out Exaile - it's pretty cool and has most of Amarok;'s features - plus made for GNOME not KDE
[03:40] <italianninja> anyone want to remote my desktop and get this porn playing?
[03:40] <revilodraw> shaxkjack: thank you
[03:40] <bruenig> hypertyper, it might be the &, I was unsure on the &
[03:40] <ShackJack> italianninja: Did you do what I said? and what do you mean "nothing" working.. I'm sure most thinkgs are working..
[03:41] <hypertyper> bruenig: i'll try yanking it out, later
[03:41] <revilodraw> italianninja: haha good luck
[03:41] <bruenig> hypertyper, I would try editing that out of sudo visudo and then again out of the startup commands
[03:41] <hypertyper> thanks for the help :)
[03:41] <archoniam> XD. I just wanted to ask the Q later in the log, which was: Anyone know why the heck my computer is outputting this error? Error is: /var/tmp/iFSWNmEAAiTAInQHagQZI/installscript.sh: 4: /home/archoniam/Linux: not found
[03:41] <ShackJack> italianninja: Put it this way - if you can't get Ubuntu working, you'll have a harder time with many other distros... THough you might want to check out Mint of Sambayon which are Ubuntu based and have some of those codecs preinstalled... But not worth the effort as it should be EZ for you to put the codecs on yourself...
[03:42] <jerbull88> brue its /dev/hda2
[03:42] <bruenig> archoniam, what wer eyou doing before this
[03:42] <bruenig> jerbull88, alright where did you want to mount it, /media/hda2 maybe?
[03:42] <D0wN> when I try to install a package through Synaptic package manager, I get this: "Depends: gtk2-engines-aurora but it is not going to be installed". Does anyone know of a way to fix that?
[03:42] <jerbull88> yes
[03:42] <bruenig> jerbull88, ok well make sure /media/hda2 exists "sudo mkdir /media/hda2
[03:42] <bruenig> "
[03:43] <archoniam> Bruenig: Surfing the net, downloading a few tarballs, i was trying to checkinstall a tarball.
[03:43] <ShackJack> italianninja: All you gotta do is put the extra gstreamer codecs and your porn will play fine - mine does ;)
[03:43] <bruenig> archoniam, hmm a checkinstall failure how clever, just delete /var/tmp/whateverthathingwas
[03:43] <jerbull88> is it supposed to give any confirmation
[03:43] <madcreation> any pointers to installing ubuntu server
[03:43] <bruenig> jerbull88, just go to the next line
[03:43] <archoniam> Bruenig: I've had this same problem, only instead of 'not found,' i go- Oki... XD
[03:43] <jerbull88> im there
[03:44] <revilodraw> shackjack; exaile is nowhere is pretty as amarok
[03:44] <dissection> bruenig: I removed the file from /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/etc .. Could there possibly be anymore files? I didn't find anything else
[03:44] <bruenig> jerbull88, ok so do "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" and add "/dev/hda2 /media/hda2 ext3 defaults 0 0"
[03:44] <mooseinmud> what are you trying to install madcreation
[03:44] <orange__> Need help on wine
[03:44] <ShackJack> D0wN: You might want to see if you can install gtk2-engines-aurora manually - it might not be in the repos though..
[03:44] <archoniam> It's already gone. XD
[03:44] <orange__> I need to install an program to run exe / games
[03:44] <madcreation> ubuntu server
[03:45] <mooseinmud> pretty straight forward
[03:45] <ShackJack> revilodraw: Well, I don't think Amarok is particualry pretty, but I hear what your saying... they have a great SVN version you can use with more features...
[03:45] <bruenig> dissection, there could be, the only way to know for sure is to try to wade through the Makefile, but you need to know some serious bash to do that, if there doesn't appear to be anything in there, you are probably good
[03:45] <yeko> Make sure you can manually mount the drive before messing with fstab
[03:45] <AlonzoTG> =P
[03:45] <AlonzoTG> I burned me a disk today, just to try it out...
[03:45] <ShackJack> revilodraw: See - http://www.exaile.org/downloads
[03:45] <yeko> mkdir /dev/whatever /mnt/newdisk
[03:45] <AlonzoTG> I put it in the machine and let it crash a few times... (I had other chores to do while it was crashing...)
[03:45] <yeko> mount /dev/whatever /mnt/newdisk I mean
[03:45] <AlonzoTG> The last time I tried it, It gave me a log-in screen.
[03:46] <crysalys> me'sah likey CS sporto!!
[03:46] <orange__> I need to install an program to run exe / windows games like diablo / css
[03:46] <madcreation> oh and i'm new to linux
[03:46] <AlonzoTG> -- mind you, this is after pushing the power button and walking.
[03:46] <hypertyper> how does one perform multiple commands on a single line? ie, i want to perform command1, wait 5 seconds, then perform command2
[03:46] <[Cz] S_p_or_t_o> :P, orange - you need wine
[03:46] <italianninja> ShackJack: can you talk me through installing every possible movie codex for totem
[03:46] <yeko> hypertyper use a semicolon
[03:46] <AlonzoTG> I tried several times to log in but couldn't guess the password.
[03:46] <bruenig> hypertyper, command1 ; sleep 5 ; command2
[03:46] <ShackJack> !wine | orange__
[03:46] <ubotu> orange__: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:46] <AlonzoTG> SO WHAT IS THE PASSWORD FOR THE UBUNTU LIVE CD???
[03:47] <crysalys> anyone know if know if i can add a partition in Vista?
[03:47] <hypertyper> you guys are awesome, thanks
[03:47] <bruenig> hypertyper, or alternatively command1 && sleep 5 && command 2 (this one will make sure the previous command didn't have an error before going on to the next)
[03:47] <jrib> AlonzoTG: it's blank/empty
[03:47] <jerbull88> brue is this correct /dev/hda2/media/hda2 ext3 defaults 0 0
[03:47] <crysalys> without an outside prog
[03:47] <AlonzoTG> It doesn't accept blank or empty.
[03:47] <bruenig> jerbull88, space between /dev/hda2 and /media/hda2
[03:47] <ShackJack> italianninja: Not much more to it that what I said - go to add remove programs/sound and video - look for gstreamer  -- see descriptions, but you wand ffmpeg primarily, and "extra" plugins pack
[03:47] <AlonzoTG> I mean if I just hit the enter key, it says I need to enter a password.
[03:48] <yeko> jerbull88  make sure you can manually mount the drive first
[03:48] <crysalys> i tried computer management but no go
[03:48] <bruenig> yeko, it will err the same
[03:48] <AlonzoTG> It won't let me log in, I tried for 20 minutes...
[03:48] <jerbull88> i can manually mount it, is this correct, /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 ext3 defaults 0 0
[03:48] <Belboz99> Hey all, I'm trying to install Kubuntu 7.04, and it's at "downloading package lists"  it sits there and Ubiquity uses 100% of the CPU, it's been sitting there for about 30 minutes
[03:48] <AlonzoTG> I searched all around and I couldn't find any help.
[03:48] <bruenig> jerbull88, yes, now get out of that and do "sudo mount -a"
[03:49] <Belboz99> this is the second time it's done this tonight
[03:49] <yeko> AlonzoTG System - Administration - Users and Groups ....you can reset root password there
[03:49] <hypertyper> /ame wanders off to reboot again
[03:49] <AlonzoTG> this was on the _LIVE CD_, first boot no keys pressed.
[03:49] <DisabledDuck> anyone know a good applications for burning DVDs?
[03:49] <jerbull88>  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,        missing codepage or other error        (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,        instead of some logical partition inside?)        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so.
[03:49] <bruenig> DisabledDuck, growisofs
[03:49] <Stormx2> DisabledDuck: k3b.
[03:50] <bruenig> jerbull88, ok so then it is not ext3
[03:50] <dissection> Whats the location of the bashrc or something where aliases are written?
[03:50] <Belboz99> Goood God, half an hour to download the package lists on a DSL connection, WTF?
[03:50] <yeko> bruenig.......but if the system freezes up...and he has to reboot...fstab can cause a problem
[03:50] <bruenig> dissection, ~/.bashrc
[03:50] <dissection> I have an entry in that
[03:50] <dissection> Okay
[03:50] <bruenig> yeko, true
[03:50] <asim> can someone help me with BERYL?
[03:50] <bruenig> !beryl | asim
[03:50] <crysalys> anyone know?
[03:50] <vinay> hi folks... im trying to figure out why hibernate option literally shuts down my system.. hitting power button makes it boot from post... vista does not do this.. thoughts?
[03:50] <ShackJack> asim: No - but check out the #beryl channel for expert help...
[03:51] <Stormx2> Hmm, ubotu has died?
[03:51] <jerbull88> brue the disk prperties say it is ext3
[03:51] <ubotu> asim: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:51] <bruenig> vinay, hibernation and suspend is iffy
[03:51] <ShackJack> Stormx2: nah just a lil' slow..
[03:51] <bruenig> jerbull88, ok try "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /media/hda2"
[03:51] <bruenig> jerbull88, by the way /dev/hda2 sounds like the second partition on your main drive, not some other slave drive
[03:52] <bruenig> but maybe not
[03:52] <bruenig> it is certain the second partition of some drive
[03:52] <bruenig> certainly*
[03:52] <r00723r0> hi, my /dev/dsp isn't working
[03:52] <vinay> bruenig: that's unfortunate!! i would suspect it would send some command to power management system that would start/stop it... whether it can handle such a start/stop is another question.. but completely powering down makes me think something in a config file is setup wrong :-S
[03:52] <jerbull88> brue its definitely a slave
[03:52] <r00723r0> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp says the device is busy
[03:52] <r00723r0> i tried lsof /dev/dsp and nothing comes up
[03:53] <bruenig> jerbull88, the second partition of your slave drive?
[03:53] <dissection> Are there more than one .bashrc? When I type "noip2", it gives me the error bash: /usr/local/bin/noip2: No such file or directory but I checked in .bashrc and its not there
[03:54] <Torahteen> Hi everyone
[03:54] <r00723r0> does anyone know?
[03:54] <jerbull88> brue srry disk is named /dev/hdb
[03:54] <r00723r0> something's hogging my oss driver
[03:54] <showgun> hello earthlings!
[03:54] <Torahteen> Has anyone here been able to get compiz/beryl working on their ubuntu installation?
[03:54] <r00723r0> and i don't know how to close it
[03:54] <bruenig> jerbull88, ahhh, /dev/hdb1 right? if it has only one partition
[03:55] <D0wN> Slackjack: Sorry for the late reply. I have tried, however, I get this: http://pastebin.ca/625613
[03:55] <jerbull88> Disk /dev/hdb: 41.1 GB, 41110142976 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4998 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[03:55] <Torahteen> Gah, I hate the fact that I always forget to identify myself before chatting here
[03:55] <bruenig> jerbull88, well you know how many partitions it has on it, is it just one?
[03:55] <Torahteen> Ok, has anyone here gotten beryl or compiz working on their comp?
[03:55] <jerbull88> yes just one
[03:55] <D0wN> Oops. Sorry. I meant ShackJack
[03:56] <showgun> how can i run my usb mouse in my ubuntu 7.04 when im already logged in my desktop?
[03:56] <bruenig> jerbull88, ok well remove the old mount point for the wrong drive "sudo rmdir /media/hda2" then make the new one "sudo mkdir /media/hdb1"
[03:56] <bruenig> jerbull88, then run sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1
[03:56] <Torahteen> Can anyone hear me?
[03:56] <showgun> cuz i dont want to reboot my box just to run this usb mouse. any help pls?
[03:56] <g0dd3ss> yah Torahteen  mine werkz
[03:56] <Torahteen> Hehe
[03:56] <Torahteen> g0dd3ss, Beryl or compiz?
[03:57] <Torahteen> I'm trying to figure out how to go about installing it
[03:57] <g0dd3ss> Torahteen, both XD i use beryl tho
[03:57] <ShackJack> D0wN: I might try making sure current dependencires are resolved -- sudo aptitude -f install      but otherwise I think this package does not have the dependencies it needs that are available in your version of Ubuntu...
[03:57] <jerbull88> ok
[03:57] <bruenig> jerbull88, did it mount?
[03:57] <jerbull88> ok
[03:57] <Torahteen> I found an installation script for beryl, but it failed
[03:57] <jerbull88> ok
[03:58] <Torahteen> How'd you install yours g0dd3ss?
[03:58] <jerbull88> how do i check
[03:58] <dissection> Are there more than one .bashrc? When I type "noip2", it gives me the error bash: /usr/local/bin/noip2: No such file or directory but I checked in .bashrc and its not there
[03:58] <showgun> and another separate question, my winxp ntfs is automatically loaded when booting my ubuntu but the problem is i cant write inside that winxp ntfs partition, how do i mount it so that i can put a file inside that ntfs partition?
[03:58] <yeko> Will atomatix install beryl?
[03:58] <bruenig> Torahteen, don't run scripts unless you understand them, how are we supposed to know what it did
[03:58] <g0dd3ss> Torahteen,  i just used synaptic
[03:58] <bruenig> !automatix | yeko
[03:58] <ubotu> yeko: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:58] <ShackJack> Torahteen: Go to #ubuntu-effects for beryl/compiz support - better help there..
[03:58] <Torahteen> Ok, thank you
[03:58] <Torahteen> #ubuntu-effects
[03:58] <dissection> bruenig
[03:58] <jerbull88> how do i know if it mounted
[03:58] <Torahteen> oops XD
[03:58] <Andyho> ok.. now I'm back.. dang I was hungry
[03:58] <bruenig> jerbull88, ls /media/hdb1
[03:59] <bruenig> jerbull88, if it didn't error then it mounted, that is another way to know
[03:59] <Andyho> does anyone run yahoo widgets under wine?
[03:59] <jerbull88> then i guess it mounted
[03:59] <bruenig> jerbull88, ok do "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" and change the hda2 stuff to hdb1
[03:59] <Torahteen> Can I insatll feisty without a complete linux reinstallation?
[04:00] <bruenig> Andyho, why would you do that?
[04:00] <bruenig> !upgrading | Torahteen
[04:00] <ubotu> Torahteen: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:00] <showgun> still waiting for someone to help my queries above
[04:00] <Torahteen> ty
[04:00] <yeko> Torahteen...I tried upgrading from edgy to fiesty...I had trouble
[04:00] <jerbull88> ok
[04:00] <bruenig> !patience | showgun
[04:00] <ubotu> showgun: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:00] <Torahteen> I'm on dapper
[04:00] <dissection> !no-ip
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about no-ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <Torahteen> That gonna be better
[04:00] <bruenig> jerbull88, ok so it should be done
[04:00] <dissection> !bashrc
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bashrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <Andyho> bruenig: cuz I haven't found any similar widgets to use and as far as I know they don't support linux?!?
[04:00] <dissection> :(
[04:00] <jerbull88> how do i check
[04:00] <vinay> where does ubuntu's resolution picker get its list from?  its not coming from xorg configuration ...
[04:01] <bruenig> dissection, what are you talking about with bashrc, bashrc has nothing to do with that error
[04:01] <ShackJack> Torahteen: yeko: One tip I can offer is make sure the main meta packages are installed ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard :)
[04:01] <yeko> Torahteen I would reinstall from scratch
[04:01] <dissection> bruenig: Okay.. how do I fix it
[04:01] <jerbull88> how do i tell if it worked?
[04:01] <showgun> hehehe bruenig yes i know patience is a virtue :D
[04:01] <ShackJack> Torahteen: Do you have a separate partition for /home ?
[04:01] <bruenig> dissection, the PATH is cached to some extent in order to make launching programs faster, so when you run that command, it has already cached the location and that is why it errs like that, I don't remember the command to update that cache but a restart will do it
[04:02] <bruenig> ShackJack, have you installed yet?
[04:02] <vinay> (note: im using nvidia drivers)
[04:02] <ShackJack> bruenig: Installed what?
[04:02] <bruenig> !ntfs-3g | showgun
[04:02] <ubotu> showgun: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:02] <bruenig> ShackJack, ubuntu?
[04:02] <bruenig> ShackJack, the easiest way to configure it is during installation
[04:02] <Andyho> vinay: how'd you make it work? LOL! Having nvidia driver probs here..
[04:02] <ShackJack> bruenig: hee hee - yeah of course...
[04:03] <ShackJack> bruenig: not quite sure what you're getting at(?)
[04:03] <eegore> does anyone know of a precanned lamp application for a service and repair shop?
[04:03] <showgun> thanks bruenig now patience has a price for those who wait
[04:03] <showgun> :D
[04:03] <snake_> when i try to run keyboard accessibility in gnome it says i have no xkb extension. any idea ?
[04:03] <vinay> Andyho: hmmmm, i've used these drivers for years... just run the shell script they provide as root... rmmod nvidia, modprobe nvidia ... change xorg.conf to nvidia .. it should "startup"
[04:03] <varun0> I have a folder (movies) on Linux box A that is shared via samba, with 777 permissions. When I mount movies on Linux box B to a folder (fileservermovies) that is chmod-ed 777, fileservermovies all of a sudden becomes 755
[04:03] <ShackJack> eegore: Check out Xammp
[04:03] <bruenig> ShackJack, do you have ubuntu installed or not, the answer to that question greatly changes the answer as to how to go about separating /home
[04:04] <showgun> bruenig, do you know how to run the usb mouse without rebooting my ubuntu box cuz usually i reboot my box just to load my usb mouse?
[04:04] <ShackJack> bruenig: Oh yes I have it installed, but I wasn't asking that - was asking Torahteen if he had his home partitioned
[04:04] <nexous> Hi, can anyone give me results of ndiswrapper in synaptic, I need exact names of utils and common i think
[04:04] <bruenig> showgun, I think you have to restart the X server but I am not positive, next time try doing ctrl + alt + backspace and logging back in
[04:04] <bruenig> ShackJack, oh my fault
[04:04] <rainman> Hi, I'm new and need help
[04:04] <ShackJack> bruenig: My homes are partitioned (though possible of course post-install)... Been with ubuntu since Dapper :)
[04:04] <Floker> hey guys i've got some trouble with my ftp server. i cant connect to it: it says "no route to host" when trying to "LIST -aL"
[04:05] <bruenig> showgun, ctrl + alt + backspace restarts the X server by the way if you didn't pick that up
[04:05] <bruenig> ShackJack, I misread, I thought you were asking how to do it
[04:05] <ShackJack> :)
[04:05] <dissection> bruenig: Okay, seems I've successfully removed my installation, and installed the one from Synapatic. But it too has the same problem, says cannot locate /etc/no-ip.conf although it said it was created when I configured it
[04:05] <ShackJack> !ask | rainman
[04:05] <ubotu> rainman: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:05] <showgun> bruenig, i did that ctrl+alt+backspace but still usb mouse wasnt loaded
[04:06] <dissection> *Synaptic
[04:06] <bruenig> showgun, I don't know then, I have never used that so I am not familiar
[04:06] <showgun> after i logged in usb mouse wasnt loaded still
[04:06] <showgun> hehehee ok bruenig
[04:06] <chuk> why does it take so long to mount an NFS share in ubuntu?
[04:06] <Netham45> 'xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0xde000000,0x0) (Invalid Argument) on a Matrox G400 Dualhead while using the Matrox drivers tring to get dualhead running. Does anyone have any ideas?
[04:06] <bruenig> dissection, you may need to create it
[04:06] <rainman> shackjack and ubotu, thanks, I just installed 7.04 and try to run for the first time and it didn't
[04:06] <rainman> here's the error
[04:06] <bruenig> dissection, do dpkg -L no-ip (or whatever the package name was) see if there is an /etc/no-ip.conf
[04:07] <Netham45> is there a way to disable framebuffer in xorg.conf?
[04:07] <dcordes> bruenig: err restarting x won't reload any usb_hid modules fyi
[04:07] <rainman> udevd-event[1957] : run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit
[04:07] <bruenig> dcordes, so then he needs to modprobe something probably right?
[04:07] <rainman> usb 2-1 new low speed usb device using ohci_hcd and address 2
[04:08] <dissection> bruenig: No its not there, but when i ran "sudo no-ip -C", it said /etc/no-ip.conf was created. I went into the directory and it shows no-ip.conf is present
[04:08] <dcordes> rainman: is it shon ub on lsusb?
[04:08] <bruenig> dissection, that seems like a program problem not an ubuntu problem, might want to find the no-ip people
[04:08] <dissection> bruenig: In file explorer, unlike other .conf files, there's a red X on the top right corner of its icon.. Not sure if thats representing some kind of error?
[04:08] <rainman> sbin/sh: can't access tty; job contol turned off initramfs)
[04:09] <Floker> I cannot connect to my FTP-Server via gFTP, however i can connect to it with ftp in a terminal. could anyone help?
[04:09] <ShackJack> !pastebin | rainman, for long messages, code, etc...
[04:09] <ubotu> rainman, for long messages, code, etc...: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:09] <r00723r0> something's hogging my oss driver
[04:09] <r00723r0> and i don't know how to close it
[04:09] <r00723r0> does anyone know?
[04:09] <rainman> dcordes not sure
[04:09] <vinay> i have a curious "HIBERNATE_MODE=shutdown" in /etc/default/acpi-support .. lol...
[04:09] <dissection> Crap, he's gone :(
[04:10] <crimsun> r00723r0: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer*)
[04:10] <dcordes> rainman: check it out
[04:10] <showgun> btw, question, what is program is that being ran for modprobe?
[04:10] <r33ddl3r> halla
[04:10] <rainman> shackjack & dcordes thanks, I'll write my msg and give you the url
[04:10] <r00723r0> crimsun: nothing is outputted from the nested command
[04:10] <showgun> maybe that will enable my usb mouse just like booting
[04:10] <dissection> When I open /etc/no-ip.conf in gedit, it says gedit has not been able to detect the character encoding. Why is that? What do I need to do tfix that?
[04:10] <r00723r0> crimsun: so it doesn't kill anything
[04:11] <crimsun> r00723r0: then use the entire string: lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/seq* /dev/snd/*
[04:11] <r33ddl3r> can someone help me figure out why my CPU fan will stop as soon as I boot up Ubuntu?
[04:11] <dcordes> r33ddl3r: that is extremly odd
[04:11] <CVirus> r33ddl3r: when exactly does it stop ?
[04:11] <chuk> at what point does it stop?
[04:12] <dcordes> maybe acpi issue
[04:12] <ShackJack> rainman: Thanks, but don't give to me personally, others are here to help -- first instinct is to unplug any erroneous usb device and restart... Or boot into recovery mode (from GRUB startup)- command line and do sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f install
[04:12] <CVirus> r33ddl3r: laptop or desktop ?
[04:12] <Andyho> ugh.. darn work.. guess I'll have to come back later
[04:12] <r33ddl3r> dcordes, it is.. dont think something is wrong w/the fan itself.. it can run for hours if booting into bios screen...
[04:12] <r33ddl3r> desktop
[04:12] <nater> ok, I have a compaq presario 2500.  Since installing feisty, my system crahses with a process overheating error.  never occured with windows and no modifications to the hardware has changed.  any ideas?
[04:12] <r00723r0> crimsun: thanks, but i don't know what closed
[04:12] <r00723r0> crimsun: any way i can find out?
[04:12] <rainman> shackjack, OK
[04:12] <r00723r0> crimsun: all i know is that volume control did :X
[04:12] <crimsun> r00723r0: just don't kill it next time ;)
[04:12] <r33ddl3r> dcordes, stops at some point after grub, while loading some modules
[04:12] <CVirus> r33ddl3r: are you 100% sure it stops ... or it's sound just goes down ?
[04:12] <r33ddl3r> it stops.. and eventually my box shuts down from overheat
[04:13] <r00723r0> crimsun: right
[04:13] <ShackJack> rainman: I'd try and do the update anyway, then unplug and restart...
[04:13] <r00723r0> crimsun: oh well, i'll figure it out next time
[04:13] <CVirus> r33ddl3r: try to boot with the kernel parameter acpi=off
[04:13] <r33ddl3r> didnt do much more troubleshotoing though.. but wondering if anyone seen thys type of behavior.. guess not
[04:13] <Bubbles25> is there a way to get sound working over a remote desktop connection?
[04:13] <dcordes> r33ddl3r: what chipset is your mainboard? laptop one?
[04:13] <nater> r33ddl3r, are you having processor overheating problems too?
[04:13] <blackace11> hey could i get assistance with my external usb harddrive... i screwed up the partitions and i can't access it
[04:13] <r00723r0> btw, i completely forgot how to change $PATH
[04:13] <ari_stress> id
[04:13] <r00723r0> does anyone know?
[04:14] <r33ddl3r> dcordes, desktop... beats me what chip set.. i put it together from the scrap I found in attic :).. but it was running fine 24/7 on edgy
[04:14] <dcordes> r33ddl3r: what kind of cpu?
[04:15] <blackace11> hey could i get assistance with my external usb harddrive... i screwed up the partitions and i can't access it
[04:15] <rainman> shackjack, sorry I'm new to linux do I type in Grub> "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f install"?
[04:15] <r33ddl3r> p4
[04:15] <r33ddl3r> intel
[04:15] <nexous> How do I configure my wireless information via ubuntu-server. In desktop i had gui to change, but where will my ssid be for server edition?
[04:15] <r33ddl3r> nexous, try iwconfig, iwlist
[04:15] <ShackJack> rainman: No - select "recovery mode" from GRUB - should get you to command line where you can then do manual update... maybe problem with older packages...
[04:16] <ShackJack> rainman: Then reboot -->   sudo shutdown -r now
[04:16] <dcordes> r33ddl3r: are you100% sure this does not occur with edgy and other os? and it is not the hardware?
[04:16] <r33ddl3r> iwconfig ath0 essid "your essid"
[04:16] <dmaz> hey, anyone know how to change the default colour of the cube when using compiz under Feisty? I'm using it for a presentation, so I don't want that tan tint over my slides at the top of the cube.
[04:16] <blackace11> hey could i get assistance with my external usb harddrive... i screwed up the partitions and i can't access it
[04:16] <r33ddl3r> dcordes, it is not the hardware.. cuz if I log in to bios.. or if I pause at grub... it runs for hours.. also was fine in edgy
[04:17] <nater> dcordes: are you talking about processor overheating errors and then shuts down?
[04:17] <dcordes> nater: what?
[04:17] <dcordes> r33ddl3r: sounds like a severe bug in feisty. if i was you i would file a bug in launchpad
[04:17] <IndyGunFreak> blackace11: do you have the data on that drive backed up somewhere else?
[04:18] <dcordes> !launchpad | r33ddl3r
[04:18] <ubotu> r33ddl3r: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[04:18] <cblack0> I am having problems getting sound working on 7.04, I have looked at the community help pages. One clue is that alsamixer shows: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[04:18] <dcordes> something with the acpi
[04:18] <BlueLaguna> How do you redirect stderr again?
[04:18] <nater> The issue that r33dl3r is having.  Is the processor on his laptop overheating when running fiesty?
[04:18] <dcordes> r33ddl3r: you could also find out how to boot with acpi turned off
[04:19] <cblack0> I went thru sound settings trying different sound systems, but the sound test never works. I also made sure that no mixers show mute, but of course the mixers don't see a device anyway
[04:19] <dcordes> there is a boot setting for this noacpi
[04:19] <cblack0> this is a dell with onboard intel sound of some sort I believe
[04:19] <dcordes> nater: his cpu fan is turning off after booting feisty
[04:19] <blackace11> indygunFreak
[04:19] <blackace11> no
[04:20] <blackace11> but i not concerend
[04:20] <blackace11> i just want to use the DRIVE
[04:20] <IndyGunFreak> blackace11: well if you're not concerned about data on the drive, use gparted to repartition it.
[04:20] <blackace11> it wont mount!
[04:20] <blackace11> it doesn't show!
[04:20] <ShackJack> !enter | blackace11
[04:20] <ubotu> blackace11: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:21] <dcordes> blackace11: your drive has to be not mounted
[04:21] <dcordes> to partition it
[04:21] <blackace11> ok
[04:21] <blackace11> i know that
[04:21] <nater> Oh.  My problem is slightly diffrent I think.  Fiesty shuts down laptop with an error about processor overheating.
[04:21] <blackace11> in my windows it sees it in device manager... but that's about it
[04:22] <IndyGunFreak> blackace11: if you want to use it under WIndows, just format it.
[04:22] <cblack0> any clues on my sound issue? or places I should look/check for troubleshooting docs other than help.ubuntu.com which has not helped so far?
[04:22] <kain> hi i'm having a problem changing a folder... the subfolder permissions got changed but not the main folder (chown and chgrp)
[04:22] <ShackJack> cblack0: You might check out the #alsa chat...
[04:22] <dcordes> blackace11: check dmesg if it is recognized and assigned to a /dev/ when you plugged it in
[04:22] <kain> the path is Desktop/1.4.0_src
[04:22] <cblack0> thanks!
[04:23] <jayde_drag01> hello all.. someomne was helping me before.. but i have 2 drives that i cannot mount .. i get the error that the logfile was unclean because windows did not shut down normally... i do not have windows anymore.. so i am unable to do the simple fix... i cannot lose the data.... i don't know the commands to run ntfsfix on the drives.. can anyone please help me?
[04:24] <blackace11> not for sure
[04:24] <blackace11> it says something when i disconnect it
[04:25] <dcordes> jayde_drag01: there is a package with ntfsfix called ntfstools it hink. but to walk around that check thing you can also force-mount it
[04:25] <Seoke> Alright theres a couple things I need help with #1 My open programs like Gaim and aMsn are not showing up in the top right corner anymore how do I get that to happen and on the bottom my windows that i have running arent taking up the entire menu bar they're all the same size and they're too small to read
[04:25] <swiftly> everytime I use mldonkey, firefox shuts down. No warnings no bug reports, NOTHING. Any suggestions
[04:26] <nexous> Having wireless troubles in ubuntu-server, installed wireless card drivers, but having trouble configuring.
[04:26] <dcordes> dcordes: first try apt-get install ntfstools && ntfsfix /dev/yourpartition
[04:26] <jayde_drag01> okay how do i get it  ... walk me thru.. but it might be easier if you pm me so that i can navigate away from this window and not lose what you are saying to me
[04:26] <nater> Can anyone help me?  I have a compaq presario 2500 running fiesty.  After a short amount of time, my laptop shuts down with an error about the processor overheating.  Not a hardware issue.  Is there anyway to turn off this monitor to prevent this?
[04:26] <jayde_drag01> i am a complete newbie but i learn quick and i am nice.. and a girl to boot
[04:26] <Seoke> Alright theres a couple things I need help with #1 My open programs like Gaim and aMsn are not showing up in the top right corner anymore how do I get that to happen and on the bottom my windows that i have running arent taking up the entire menu bar they're all the same size and they're too small to read
[04:27] <orange__> I used wine but then i cant see works on steam for counter strike
[04:27] <dcordes> nater: turn off what monitor?
[04:27] <blackace11> ok so is there any code that i can input that will change ownership of myy usb harddrive?!
[04:27] <orange__> I type in wine steam.exe
[04:27] <ShackJack> Hi - I want to build latest alsa from source  - any good guides for that (the whole make configure thing?)
[04:27] <nater> What ever is monitoring the processor temperature, or can I change the thresholds to prevent shutdown
[04:28] <dcordes> nater: you mean the thing that slows down your fan?
[04:28] <mneptok> ShackJack: if you need to ask how to use ./configure then you should *not* be installing a sound architecture from source.
[04:29] <nexous> How do I configure wifi on server 7.04?
[04:29] <dcordes> respective controls it?
[04:29] <jayde_drag01> how do i get ntfstools and install it?
[04:29] <jayde_drag01> can you give me the command line or something?
[04:29] <ShackJack> mneptok: Ah O.K. was asking for someone else so I could refer them to it... Just though it could make some .debs from it and install...
[04:30] <dcordes> jayde_drag01: synaptic
[04:30] <cafuego> nexous: In many cases you don't, the server kernel package lacks the firmware needed for most wifi cards.
[04:30] <ShackJack> jayde_drag01: Or sudo aptitude install programname
[04:30] <nexous> cafuego: no, I configured the drivers into ndiswrapper like I would in desktop version
[04:30] <nater> I don't think that is the issue.  Fiesty goes to a black screen and says that the processor is overheating and shuts down.  Never had a problem with XP, so I don't think it is a hardware issue.  I have noticed others in the forums with this issue, but no solutions.
[04:30] <nexous> its just, with server edition i dont have the easy gui to change my essid,etc.
[04:30] <rainman> shackjack, I sent you the url
[04:30] <Sgeo> Hi all
[04:30] <Sgeo> How can I determine what files a program tries to access while it runs?
[04:31] <jayde_drag01> type synaptic in terminal?   or sudo aptitude into terminal?
[04:31] <ShackJack> rainman: Eh?
[04:31] <blackace11> ok so is there any code that i can input that will change ownership of myy usb harddrive?!
[04:31] <dcordes> nater: try booting with noacpi
[04:31] <nexous> cafuego: and I dont feel like installing ubuntu-desktop just to run one gui configuration when i can do it through server.
[04:31] <nater> noacpi
[04:31] <rainman> shackjack, I clicked on your name and say open dialog window and typed in the URL
[04:32] <mneptok> ShackJack: ALSA is one of those things taht if you screw it up, it's Real Bad(tm)
[04:32] <jayde_drag01> synaptic cannot find ntfstools
[04:32] <mneptok> jayde_drag01: ntfs-progs
[04:32] <rainman> shackjack here's the URL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30397/
[04:32] <nexous> Actually, how do I just set it to use wlan rather than eth0?
[04:32] <skyfalcon866> is it safe to use the computer while compilling a new kernel
[04:32] <ShackJack> mneptok: Yeah, having no sound issues though and don't have a solution for the live of me -- any other good sources of help for sound beside #alsa?
[04:33] <osxdude|lap> nd my comp is cold!
[04:33] <IndyGunFreak> ShackJack: whats your sound device?
[04:33] <WHATYOUSAY> I installed Ubuntu, but I forgot the username/password I entered when installing it. Is there any way to get around that?
[04:33] <osxdude|lap> oops
[04:33] <nater> decordes:  do I change that in the menu.1st in the grub loader to load noacpi?
[04:33] <blackace11> ok so is there any code that i can input that will change ownership of myy usb harddrive?!
[04:34] <dcordes> nater: maybe
[04:34] <nater> maybe?
[04:34] <ShackJack> IndyGunFreak: SB [HDA ATI SB] , device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]  AND SB [HDA ATI SB] , device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]  both read on card 0 - Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[04:34] <jayde_drag01> please be step by step with me.. i'm guessing as to what you want me to do... ntfs-progs search in synaptics pulled up nothing and typing ntfs-progs into terminal did nothing
[04:34] <dcordes> dcordes: try adding the word noacpi to the line with the kernel you try to boot
[04:34] <cafuego> nexous: Ah ok, then just via either iwconfig or wpasupplicant, i suppose.
[04:35] <ShackJack> IndyGunFreak: It reads like there's a card there, but no sound comes out - almost like it's directing the sound to the modem or something... #alsa folks weren't too helpful expcept to say to upgrade, but I had tried running Gutsy on it with newest alsa and still no sound...
[04:35] <nexous> well when i type in iwconfig, i get my connection under wlan0 and lo and eth0 have no wireless extensions, but when i restart networking, it pings using eth0
[04:37] <nater> decordes: do I add "noacpi" or "acpi=no"?
[04:37] <dcordes> nater: I don't know
[04:38] <rainman> shackjack, did you see my post? here's the URL to the error I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30397/
[04:38] <ShackJack> rainman: Yes, don't direct it to me personally, I can't necessarily help you, except what I said before...
[04:38] <menisk> How can I add a cursor theme to ubuntu
[04:39] <rainman> shackjack, what should I do? who do I directed to?
[04:39] <nater> Question to all.  I want to boot laptop with noacpi on fiesty.  Do I jsut add "noacpi" after the kernel?  Or, do I add "acpi=no"?  Or am I totally wrong.
[04:39] <ShackJack> rainman: The channel  - restate your question, and perhaps someone can help you.
[04:40] <ShackJack> rainman: Include the pastebin, of course...
[04:40] <rainman> shakjack, thanks
[04:40] <dcordes> nater: google has the answer
[04:40] <hypertyper> can someone tell me what this would do? "five_star: alt+f2 cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp"
[04:40] <dcordes> !google menu.lst noacpi
[04:41] <rainman> Hi all, I just installed 7.04 but it didn't run, the full description and error is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30397/ can anyone help please? thanks
[04:41] <nater> dcordes: lol, I should of googled it.
[04:42] <kain> i'm having chgrep/chown issues
[04:42] <tenengines> Anyone out there that could help me with a dual boot question when installing 7.04?
[04:42] <dcordes> !ask | tenengines
[04:42] <ubotu> tenengines: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:42] <rainman> tenengines what do you want to know?
[04:43] <tenengines> When I try to install and I get to the partition tool page, the automatic option says it will use the whole harddrive - doesn't that mean it will erase everything on there?
[04:44] <vinay> hmm, I hook up a monitor to VGA port on my laptop and it works but resolution is wrong... how can i tell X to use 2 different resolutions based on the output screen?
[04:44] <tenengines> I don't see an option to squeeze back my current partition and add the new ones I need for 7.04
[04:44] <rainman> tenengines go to this url and see how it's done http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=604
[04:44] <jayde_drag0n> i know someone here was helping me.. but i've been working on this for over 24hrs now without much help.. i realize i am a complete newbie and it is very annoying having to be explicit and step by step... but please please.. just IM me, AIM: the jayde drag0n  YIM: jayde_drag0n  MSN: jayde_drag0n@hotmail.com   can someone please help me?
[04:45] <MrGreencastl1> Nautilus keeps crashing when I try to go to /usr/lib
[04:45] <MrGreencastl1> How do I fix this?
[04:46] <tenengines> Thanks for the link - I thought I might have to partition in XP, before the install.
[04:49] <kain> i'm having chgrep/chown issues
[04:49] <ProN00b> hmm, i heard firefox 2.0.0.5 was a security update, why isn't it/anything on my apt yet ?
[04:50] <berret> Guys, I am not pretty much convinced with Linux and all. I'd like to be convinced to satisfy my self. Why should i quit windows XP and use Linux ubuntu? I want to enter this great world, but i'd like some enlightment?
[04:50] <berret> Putting money aside.
[04:50] <revilodraw> when i mark amarok for complete removal, remove it, then reinstall it, i dont need to download it...its just there... well i want to really get rid of it and reinstall it cos it lags heaps
[04:50] <crimsun> ProN00b: ...people do sleep, ya know.
[04:50] <crimsun> ProN00b: there will be an update when asac has fixed it all up.
[04:50] <yeko> berret because it is the right thing to do
[04:50] <revilodraw> berret: if you have to ask then you should probably stck with windows
[04:50] <kain> berret: my laptop runs 10x faster on linux than vista
[04:51] <ProN00b> crimsun, who sleeps ?
[04:51] <kevinmeza0708197> Hi I am new in this IRC chat channel
[04:51] <kain> can someone please help me change this folder
[04:51] <ProN00b> the bad guys don't
[04:51] <kain> i've been trying forever
[04:51] <yeko> knowledge should not be locked away...it should be shared
[04:51] <Falstius> I have an Azalia onboard audio chipset (AD1986 I think, but lspci reports MCP51), and I'm trying to use the front panel connector in AC'97 compliant mode.  It works in Windows (front and back speaker ports), but in Linux I can only get the back one.  Anyone know how I can change this?
[04:51] <kevinmeza0708197> I am actually looking for information regarding linux applications
[04:51] <crimsun> ProN00b: asac.  The guy who is at the distro sprint, who takes care of the *Ubuntu firefox package.
[04:51] <notserpe_> so... how do I fix a dependency problem with php5-ldap...
[04:51] <yeko> join the community...a community that builds on each other
[04:51] <cafuego> You can laugh and wander off, but it'll do you no good!
[04:51] <berret> Revilodraw , I am intrested in Linux, but i cant find anyone who convince me to. :(
[04:52] <notserpe_>  php5-ldap: Depends: php5-common (= 5.1.2-1ubuntu3) but 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[04:52] <cafuego> notserpe_: Run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' first.
[04:52] <notserpe_> done that already.
[04:52] <HelpMe> Hi
[04:52] <notserpe_> I'm looking for help... not channel hoping... but hey... it's okay... this is IRC and I understand cafuego.
[04:52] <kevinmeza0708197> does anyone here knows a good application for editing audio to use in ubuntu?
[04:52] <yeko> berret...I was in Micro Center the other day...wandering through the software aisle...looking at all the crap you need to load...to secure windows
[04:52] <cafuego> notserpe_: Any chance your mirror isn't up to date OR do you noty have security repos enabled?
[04:52] <yeko> then I see an older gentleman....looking at symantec software
[04:53] <HelpMe> I have a problem
[04:53] <kevinmeza0708197> does anyone here knows a good application for editing audio to use in ubuntu?
[04:53] <kain> we all have problems
[04:53] <revilodraw> berret; run the livecd, use the internet, play around, see if u like it...it will be slow on the livecd for obvious reasons, and the internet might be slow (disable ipv6 to fix this, ill tell u how if u want to know)
[04:53] <kain> no one seems to really be helping
[04:53] <kevinmeza0708197> does anyone here knows a good application for editing audio to use in ubuntu?
[04:53] <dr_willis> !patience
[04:53] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:53] <yeko> Not sure how much symantec would set himback....on a retirement budget.......
[04:53] <cafuego> notserpe_: ... there was a php5 security release yesterday
[04:53] <HelpMe> I cant change my reselution higher than 1024 bye 768
[04:53] <AzMoo[w] > !info maven
[04:53] <ubotu> Package maven does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:53] <AzMoo[w] > ack
[04:53] <kevinmeza0708197> Somethign like adobe audition or anything else
[04:53] <revilodraw> kevinmeza0708197; audacity
[04:53] <notserpe_> this is an older 6.06 install
[04:53] <obf213> HelpMe
[04:54] <ProN00b> berret, xp isn't bad nowadays, and if it works for you, great, but when you think about formating/reinstalling, or even upgrading to anything (vista?) ubuntu is a great choice since its free, fast and just overall aweasome in alot of things (i don't know what you especially expect from your computer, so i can't go into the detail)
[04:54] <obf213> are you using an intel chipset
[04:54] <jengl1> hi all.
[04:54] <kevinmeza0708197> Audacity, nice!
[04:54] <yeko> He can get most of what he needs....from Linux.....ubuntu is helping to bridge the gap...much easier to install ...support
[04:54] <kevinmeza0708197> I will try that one! Thank you!
[04:54] <jengl1> does ubuntu still support ppc chips?
[04:54] <cafuego> notserpe_: I'd gamble that the package may not have been uploaded for dapper then, so the mirror is out of sync.
[04:54] <revilodraw> kevinmeza0708197; sure!
[04:54] <kain> i'm having chgrep/chown issues
[04:55] <yeko> kain   ???
[04:55] <obf213> HelpMe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:55] <ProN00b> kain, why not try to tell us about your issues ?
[04:55] <kevinmeza0708197> just curious if there is a second choice besides Audacity?
[04:55] <obf213> yo. how do i get a link to my home folder on teh desktop
[04:55] <jengl1> does ubuntu support powerpc chips?
[04:55] <notserpe_> cafuego: so what do I do?
[04:55] <kain> i need to change Desktop/1.4.0_src to kain kain and not root root
[04:55] <Latch_> \disconnect
[04:55] <revilodraw> kevinmeza0708197; have u tried it yet?
[04:55] <kain> i got all the subfolders changed but not the root folder 1.4.0_src
[04:55] <bulmer> obf213: yo learn about symlink  man ln
[04:55] <dr_willis> obf213,  a link to what? use 'ln -s' from the shell is one way to link directoriues around
[04:55] <yeko> chmod kain:kain filename
[04:55] <kevinmeza0708197> yes and I need a little more complex software
[04:55] <kevinmeza0708197> if there is nay
[04:55] <yeko> chown  kain:kain filename
[04:55] <kevinmeza0708197> any
[04:56] <revilodraw> how do i completely delete amarok so feisty has never heard of it then reisntall.... because amarok is running really poorly for me..
[04:56] <yeko> I mean
[04:56] <kevinmeza0708197> like I said I am new to linux and Ubuntu
[04:56] <revilodraw> kevinmeza0708197; hmmm i dont really know sorry, i would google for 'linux audio editor' or something
[04:56] <kevinmeza0708197> I am in love with ubuntu and really I am considering moving from Windows
[04:56] <ProN00b> revilodraw, apt-get remove ?
[04:56] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo chown kain:kain 1.4.0_src
[04:56] <oannes> hi
[04:56] <HelpMe> ok
[04:57] <oannes> How do you mount a smbfs via mount?
[04:57] <T1m3L0rd> i'm trying to NAT but it doesn't work.  does ubuntu have a firewall by default
[04:57] <kain> folder permissions still say root root
[04:57] <HelpMe> obf213:  sorry, i diskonected
[04:57] <revilodraw> pronoob; when i do that and reinstall it doesnt need to redownload it, its still there
[04:57] <oannes> I tried mount -t smbfs username=name 192.168.1.40/HDD_a  /media/nas
[04:57] <kevinmeza0708197> Thank you very much for your help!
[04:57] <bulmer> revilodraw: try apt-get remove packagename or dpkg --purge packagename
[04:57] <HelpMe> obf213:  where you helping me?
[04:57] <yeko> I installed Jokosher....but haven't tried it yet...It may be an alternative to Audacity
[04:57] <revilodraw> bulmer; ok thanks
[04:58] <bulmer> T1m3L0rd: iptables is installed but default install has no rules set
[04:58] <HelpMe> Ok, i need help.  I cant change my resalution higher than 1024 bye 758
[04:58] <Avero> Hello all! Just a quick question. Does anyone know if Gutsy has support for Compiz-Fusion + Xinerama, or any other way to get similar results across three X screens on two (identical) video cards.
[04:58] <T1m3L0rd> ok
[04:58] <ProN00b> revilodraw, the package will stay the same, even if you redownload it, otherwise you would get an error when installing saying it is corrupt
[04:58] <dr_willis> HelpMe,  and your video card is a? and you have installed the proper drivers for it?
[04:59] <kain> yeko: still nothing
[04:59] <obf213> HelpMe yes
[04:59] <kain> the permissions still read root:root
[04:59] <obf213> i just fixed my resolution
[04:59] <obf213> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:59] <HelpMe> obf213:   Um
[04:59] <kain> i'm thinking i may have to login as root to delete the folder
[04:59] <HelpMe> obf213:  how do i find what video card i have?
[04:59] <rich1> hi.  i installed fwcutter and the bcm firmware on a fresh install of feisty.  it works but it drops out a lot.  can anyone help with the dropping, please?
[04:59] <revilodraw> pronoob; yeh, but i dont really redownload it.. i try but it just installs straight away... it doesnt need to redownload it cos it still has it!
[05:00] <kevinmeza0708197> wow
[05:00] <bulmer> kain if its a folder you need to provide the option -R to chown
[05:00] <kevinmeza0708197> very impressed with audacity
[05:00] <kain> yeko: no error
[05:00] <AzMoo[w] > kevinmeza0708197: yes, audacity is awesome.
[05:00] <ProN00b> kevinmeza0708197, there also seems to be something called ardour
[05:00] <obf213> HelpMe go to system preferences then hardwar
[05:00] <dissection> Hi, i have a question. So I need to add a command to sessions... Its something like ......    abcd -option1 -option2 -option3... do I need to put that in quotes?
[05:00] <kain> i get a new prompt after the sudo command
[05:00] <kevinmeza0708197> Ardour? Hummm will try that one!
[05:01] <kain> done that
[05:01] <carter_> Hey
[05:01] <HelpMe> Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS/940GML obf213
[05:01] <kevinmeza0708197> I have been hours in the internet also searching for a astrology software for linux
[05:01] <kevinmeza0708197> but have had no luch
[05:01] <bulmer> dissection: what program is that for?
[05:01] <obf213> HelMe
[05:01] <obf213> ok yeah
[05:01] <kevinmeza0708197> no luck
[05:01] <Babaloo> hello...!  =)
[05:02] <obf213> HelpMe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:02] <dissection> bulmer: INADYN running as daemon
[05:02] <r33ddl3r> astrology? :)
[05:02] <r33ddl3r> http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_list.php?id_kategory=117
[05:02] <r33ddl3r> try here
[05:02] <kevinmeza0708197> Does anyone here knows if there is a astrology software for linux?
[05:02] <dissection> bulmer: I have to use inadyn -u username -p password -alias hostname, etc etc
[05:02] <bulmer> dissection: did you try to read the README file that came along with it?
[05:02] <dissection> bulmer: So I want to run it at startup
[05:02] <obf213> HelpMe scroll to intel graphics i810
[05:02] <DeadLocked> I cleared my MBR on my NTFS drive following a suggestion of how to fix a problem. Now I cannot see my internal NTFS drive at all. Is there a way to fix this.
[05:02] <dissection> bulmer: Yes but I didn't find anything about adding it to sessions
[05:03] <r33ddl3r> kevinmeza0708197, that link has something on astronomy.. might ifnd astrology too :)
[05:03] <HelpMe> obf213:   i alredy tryed that but it dident work.  Befour, i installed somthing from add/remove that made it work
[05:03] <bulmer> dissection: you create a script and put a symlink of it to   /etc/init.d/
[05:03] <kevinmeza0708197> I'll try that one!
[05:03] <bulmer> dissection: what sessions?
[05:03] <obf213> HelpMe... did you reboot.
[05:03] <rich1> my bcm4318 card is dropping out a lot.  i'm using the fwcutter method.  can anyone help, please?
[05:03] <obf213> because i had to
[05:03] <dissection> bulmer: To let it run when I start Ubuntu
[05:03] <bulmer> dissection: is it a program that runs like a daemon?
[05:04] <Johno> How do I edit my boot file
[05:04] <obf213> help did u edit the /etc/x11/xorg.conf to say intel like it said
[05:04] <Johno> ?
[05:04] <dr_willis> Johno,  clarify what you mean by 'boot file'
[05:04] <bulmer> Johno: boot files is a binary..you dont edit it just like that
[05:04] <dissection> bulmer: I could run it in terminal, or let it run as a daemon. I prefer daemon cause it'll update the dns if my IP has changed
[05:04] <yeko> Why do you want do edit your boot file?
[05:04] <kain> yeko: kain@kain-laptop:~$ ls -ld Desktop/1.4.0_src; id
[05:04] <kain> drwxrwxrwx 16 kain kain 4096 2007-07-18 20:54 Desktop/1.4.0_src
[05:04] <kain> uid=1000(kain) gid=1000(kain) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),112(netdev),113(lpadmin),115(powerdev),117(admin),1000(kain)
[05:04] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:~$
[05:04] <revilodraw> i have removed amarok, and now reinstalling "0 B have to be downloaded" i want it to need to redownload amarok... i want it to forget amarok ever existed
[05:04] <kain> grrr it doesn't act like that is the case!
[05:05] <kain> WTF
[05:05] <Johno> I'm trying to get my modem to work and it says to edit somthing
[05:05] <HelpMe> obf213:  i dont get it, i installed it, but it says somthing i dont understand
[05:05] <bulmer> dissection: you create a script and put a symlink of it to   /etc/init.d/  <-- scripts here are started at boot
[05:05] <HelpMe> obf213:  it says this: Then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the   Driver "i810"     to   Driver "intel"
[05:05] <obf213> yeah
[05:05] <revilodraw> HelpMe; what type of computer do u have?
[05:05] <obf213> HelpMe ok
[05:05] <dissection> bulmer: I don't know how to script :S
[05:05] <obf213> HelpMe so now you've have installed it.
[05:06] <bulmer> dissection: now is the best time to learn it
[05:06] <HelpMe> revilodraw:  lenovo
[05:06] <HelpMe> obf213:  yesh
[05:06] <obf213> HelpMe you have to edit a file now
[05:06] <HelpMe> ok
[05:06] <HelpMe> how?
[05:06] <revilodraw> HelpMe; and you r trying to install feisty and are having x problems?
[05:06] <obf213> HelpMe
[05:06] <obf213> ALT+F2
[05:06] <obf213> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:06] <obf213> do that
[05:06] <dissection> Whats an easier way to do it?
[05:07] <HelpMe> revilodraw:  i have festy, and what r X problems?
[05:07] <Johno> "Add an option "pci=routeirq" to the kernel boot up line" thats what it said and I need to know how
[05:07] <DeadLocked> I cleared my MBR on my NTFS drive following a suggestion of how to fix a problem. Now I cannot see my internal NTFS drive at all. Is there a way to fix this.
[05:07] <dissection> bulmer: Won't it work if I add the command to sessions?
[05:07] <carter_> You cleared your MBR deadlocked?
[05:07] <revilodraw> helpme; dont worry, the other ppl helping u know what they r doing :)
[05:07] <HelpMe> ok, now what obf213
[05:07] <obf213> ok did the file open.
[05:07] <obf213> a file should have opened
[05:07] <bulmer> dissection: what is the sessions you are referring to? btw..come on pick up a book to learn scripting :)
[05:08] <DeadLocked> carter_: On my NTFS drive, Yes.
[05:08] <Johno> how do I edit the kernel boot up line?
[05:08] <dissection> bulmer: System > Preferences > Sessions
[05:08] <DeadLocked> carter_: It doesnt have anything on it but files. No OSes.
[05:08] <carter_> Did you keep a back-up copy?
[05:08] <HelpMe> obf213:  yes
[05:08] <dissection> bulmer: Man I just need to run it on startup, I can't learn programming for that
[05:08] <dr_willis> excuses... :)
[05:09] <obf213> HelpMe now scroll down
[05:09] <MrGreencastl1> Nautilus keeps crashing when I try to go to /usr/lib   I've tried running under root, and the same thing, any help?
[05:09] <obf213> through the information
[05:09] <carter_> Deadlocked, did you back it up?
[05:09] <HelpMe> obf213:  ok
[05:09] <obf213> helpme you will see something that says display or something and it will have a driver called i810. change that to intel like it says
[05:09] <bulmer> dissection: well..thats not the right place to put it..take a look at /etc/init.d/   this directory has the S*  for startup..copy one
[05:09] <kevinmeza0708197> could someone please tell me how to install "astrolog" in ubuntu
[05:09] <revilodraw> amarok worked great in edgy, but lags like a biatch in feisty
[05:10] <MrGreencastl1> revilodraw try exaile
[05:10] <quaal> i was just noticing that
[05:10] <quaal> it greys out quite a bit
[05:10] <revilodraw> kevinmeza0708197: use synaptic
[05:10] <quaal> but i have all my music in it
[05:10] <rich1> can anyone help with my wireless dropping out?
[05:10] <quaal> is there a better alternative to amarok ?
[05:10] <DeadLocked> carter_: No. Is there a way to recover/fix the MBR. I used hiren's bootcd. That's how I broke it atleast.
[05:10] <kevinmeza0708197> thanks will try that
[05:10] <obf213> ok guys i suck at this sym link thing
[05:10] <conorkirkpatrick> How do I get Wanda to stop swimming accross my screen? :D
[05:10] <HelpMe> Integrated Graphics Controller obf213?
[05:10] <MrGreencastl1> quaal not really but try exaile
[05:10] <carter_> Deadlocked, check my pm
[05:10] <revilodraw> MrGreencastl1; i have exaile but it hasnt got anything on amarok!
[05:10] <yeko> quaal   I like vlc
[05:10] <carter_> that will make this easier
[05:10] <obf213> on sec
[05:11] <obf213> let me open the file
[05:11] <quaal> yeko, vlc is good for video
[05:11] <quaal> but not much of a library
[05:11] <DeadLocked> carter_: ok
[05:11] <MrGreencastl1> revilodraw no it doesn't but it runs much nicer in gnome
[05:11] <yeko> I use vlc for video and audio
[05:11] <vinay> soo.. being a long time debian user.. im thoroughly impressed by how ubuntu kindof just "worked out of the box"
[05:11] <yeko> Almost all my podcasts on vlc
[05:11] <kevinmeza0708197> You guys are awesome!!!!!
[05:11] <revilodraw> MrGreencastl1; amarok used be beautiful in edgy
[05:11] <quaal> well you just drag files into vlc then
[05:11] <kevinmeza0708197> you know everything
[05:11] <MrGreencastl1> revilodraw but I use last.fm anyway
[05:11] <obf213> yes it sunder that
[05:11] <Johno> how do I access the package manager?
[05:12] <obf213> HelpMe what does the driver say
[05:12] <revilodraw> kevinmeza0708197; theres over 1000 ppl in here, someone will always help
[05:12] <dissection> bulmer: There's screen, sendsigs, single, skeleton, stop-bootlogd, stop-bootlogd-single, stop-sreadahead, sysklogd....
[05:12] <bulmer> dissection: i take that back..maybe you can put one there on that sessions startup programs tab..but i have not done it before..so do a trial n error style ..:)
[05:12] <HelpMe> obf213:    it says "I810"
[05:12] <revilodraw> johno; system, administatration
[05:12] <obf213> HelpMe ok good
[05:12] <HelpMe> obf213:  change it?
[05:12] <obf213> HelpMe change it to intel
[05:12] <obf213> all lowercase
[05:13] <HelpMe> obf213:  and save?
[05:13] <KI4IKL> I have the bittorrent gnome thing...what port does it use so I can open it on firestarter?
[05:13] <obf213> in between the quotes
[05:13] <kevinmeza0708197> :)
[05:13] <obf213> yes help me then save
[05:13] <DeadLocked> carter_: BRB. Still send PM. I just have to go check something.
[05:13] <MrGreencastl1> Can someone please help, Nautilus keeps crashing when I go to /usr/lib
[05:13] <obf213> then restart
[05:13] <HelpMe> obf213:  ok
[05:13] <obf213> then you will have an option to change the resolution
[05:13] <obf213> to highter
[05:13] <dissection> bulmer: I've put some programs in there before and it worked on startup.... But not sure if I need quotes for those -option1 -option2 whatever thats called
[05:13] <carter_> Then access it from the termanl MrGreencastl1
[05:13] <dissection> bulmer: How do I know if it worked? How do I get a list of daemons
[05:14] <obf213> hey whats the "itunes" for gnome
[05:14] <swiftly> hey what is a 'Segmentation Fault' - firefox keeps crashing and I ran it in a shell to see what it said and yeah
[05:14] <carter_> itunes doesn't have a linux version
[05:14] <MrGreencastl1> carter_ I tried it still crashes, even under root
[05:14] <obf213> i used amarok on kubuntu is that chill will ubuntu
[05:14] <bulmer> dissection: ps aux  will tell you which processes are running then look for the one that normally end in d  like httpd
[05:14] <carter_> when you cd from the terminal the terminal crashes?
[05:14] <revilodraw> obf213; it used be chill with edgy but lags like crazy with feisty
[05:15] <carter_> what version are you running?
[05:15] <MrGreencastl1> carter_ no nautilus
[05:15] <carter_> use the terminal then
[05:15] <MrGreencastl1> using cd works
[05:15] <MrGreencastl1> but
[05:15] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> hey folks??
[05:15] <obf213> revilodraw any suggestions... i haven't used in linux in about  6 months im out of the loop lol
[05:15] <bulmer> dissection: try it..see if it works or without quotes
[05:15] <rich1> hi.  i need help with wireless dropping, please.
[05:15] <MrGreencastl1> I want to look for a specific file in there
[05:15] <MrGreencastl1> but I don't know what its called
[05:16] <carter_> what's the file?
[05:16] <bulmer> MrGreencastl1: use the command find
[05:16] <revilodraw> obf213; exaile i the plain jane version of amarok and its made for gnome...
[05:16] <dissection> bulmer: Is there a way I can save the results from ps aux into a text file? I typed that but the result is too big and it doesnt let me scroll
[05:16] <MrGreencastl1> thats what I said
[05:16] <obf213> revilodraw is it called exaile.
[05:16] <carter_> MrGreencastl1 what's the file?
[05:16] <bulmer> rich1  no guarantee that wireless does not disconnect
[05:16] <DeadLocked> carter_: ok Back. You send that PM yet?
[05:16] <obf213> revilodraw nvm
[05:16] <carter_> yeah
[05:16] <MrGreencastl1> something for screenlets 0.0.8
[05:16] <carter_> look on the side panel
[05:17] <MrGreencastl1> I'm trying to get it working
[05:17] <revilodraw> how do i install the kdesktop without doubling up on icons in the menus?
[05:17] <bulmer> dissection: you need to start reading up on linux commands..redirection, piping, page, more, less..
[05:17] <MrGreencastl1> carter_ I had the previous one, but I want the new one
[05:17] <swiftly> Can someone tell me what a segmentation fault is?
[05:17] <ub-303> hello
[05:17] <carter_> what's the file though MrGreen?
[05:17] <ub-303> how do i mount a disk in livr cd mode
[05:17] <ub-303> example to backup a crashed os
[05:17] <MrGreencastl1> carter_ I don't knew what its called
[05:18] <obf213> if i put my music on the fat32 partition will the my music players in windows and linux be able to axess them
[05:18] <carter_> then how can you find it?
[05:18] <revilodraw> ub-303; it should mount automatically
[05:18] <carter_> yes obf
[05:18] <GamingX> Can someone recommend a book to learn shell commands in detail?
[05:18] <MrGreencastl1> carter_ the tutorial said to just run them, its in a folder
[05:18] <kevinmeza0708197> I installed astrolog using synaptic package but I don{t see the application installed in ubuntu?
[05:18] <MrGreencastl1> in /usr/lib/screenlets
[05:18] <carter_> okay so do this
[05:18] <obf213> carter thanks.
[05:18] <swiftly> kevin...: use the sehll
[05:18] <kevinmeza0708197> does anyone knows what could be the reason?
[05:18] <carter_> cd (directory)
[05:18] <carter_> ls
[05:18] <MrGreencastl1> or something similar, thats why I want to use nautilus
[05:18] <carter_> find the file
[05:18] <carter_> then type ./(file)
[05:19] <revilodraw> kevinmeza0708197: type in terminal 'astrolog'
[05:19] <carter_> That should work for you MrGreen
[05:19] <dr_willis> GamingX,  thers dozens if not 100's of web sites that help ya learn the shell. The definitive book is "using bash' by the O'reialy guys
[05:19] <DeadLocked> carter_: I sent you a PM.
[05:19] <MrGreencastl1> I'll try that
[05:19] <rich1> bulmer: should it be dropping regularly?  could it be my router?
[05:19] <carter_> dead, I didn't get it.  do you have aim?
[05:19] <revilodraw> how do i install the kdesktop without doubling up on icons in the menus?
[05:19] <DeadLocked> I have MSN.
[05:19] <carter_> damn
[05:19] <bulmer> rich1: it could be ...what happens?
[05:19] <carter_> let me try pm one more time
[05:19] <obf213> guys is it safe to use hibernate and suspend w/o doing any configurations in 7.04. or is it still shady. i am using a laptop
[05:19] <DeadLocked> Can i run AIM through pidgin.
[05:19] <DeadLocked> I cantry to rember my info
[05:20] <carter_> my aim is freemuncie
[05:20] <swiftly> what is a Segmentation Fault - firefox keeps crashing
[05:20] <sayers> DeadLocked, ofcorse...
[05:20] <carter_> what do you do to cause firefox to crash?
[05:20] <carter_> is it when you go to a specific page?
[05:20] <rich1> bulmer: i'll just be online and it goes out.  i have to /etc/init.d/networking restart of ifdown ifup a couple of times to get it back.
[05:21] <codesnik> hello. in which package locales are contained? i've installed ubuntu with "no localization" and now i have only C and POSIX locales :\
[05:21] <swiftly> carter_: just generally browsing and than *whomp* nothing
[05:21] <bulmer> swiftly: wiki for a segmentation fault
[05:21] <carter_> hmmm, what version of firefox are you running?
[05:21] <rainman> guys, my first 7.04 install didn't work, so I re-installed and now it's working. but I need help in getting the screen resolution correct. I have Optiquest 19" widescreen monitor 1440x900 how do I get the res correct? thanks
[05:21] <ub-303> OMG
[05:21] <DeadLocked> hi(11:21:06 PM) Unable to send message: Not logged in
[05:21] <DeadLocked> (11:21:06 PM) freemuncie is now known as Free Muncie.
[05:21] <ub-303> it accually found te disk
[05:21] <ub-303> <3
[05:21] <carter_> rainman, google xorg.conf
[05:21] <ub-303> ttyl
[05:21] <MilitantPotato> Argh.
[05:22] <rainman> carter thanks
[05:22] <noldon> hi i have a problem why dont i have /etc/inittab?
[05:22] <maverick> i have a queer problem with networking here. When i try to use my LAN messenger (www.ipmsg.org) it shows only me and the users appear after some time. I have even tried using the windows version using wine. still the same, can anyone help?
[05:22] <bulmer> rich1: how far is your AP? channel you're attempt to connect on? neighbors AP using same channels? metals between you and aP?
[05:22] <swiftly> 1.5.0.5 or something - hey that might be my prob
[05:22] <MilitantPotato> For some reason I cant have /home on a seperate partition, ubuntu wouldn't load
[05:22] <maverick> this even happens with counterstrike and stuff
[05:22] <maverick> i have tried changing MTU and my IP
[05:22] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> Ok so about this record my desktop... i have hear some conflicting things about.. so i tried to get it myself and the cmd seems to be dead and no one can tell me where to get it... anyone?
[05:23] <crysalys> Smartx2: my dual boot worked flawlessly
[05:23] <rich1> bulmer: ap is about 60 ft away.  in my house so no real metal interference.
[05:23] <vinay> so i got this ubuntu install.. how can i make it look pretty..  or.. where can i get more themes?
[05:23] <carter_> swifty, try going up to 2.x
[05:23] <carter_> you can download it from the repos
[05:24] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> vinay.. why not use beryl.. that makes things pretty cool
[05:24] <carter_> better yet, get automatix, and let it install switftfox
[05:24] <noldon> how do i change to runlevel 3
[05:24] <swiftly> thanks carter_ just about to get it now.
[05:24] <bulmer> rich1: try an experiment with your client closer to the AP and see if it still happens
[05:24] <maverick> i have a queer problem with networking here. When i try to use my LAN messenger (www.ipmsg.org) it shows only me and the users appear after some time. I have even tried using the windows version using wine. This happes even with counterstrike and other LAN applications. I have tried changing my IP Address and my MTU, still the same, can anyone help?
[05:25] <rich1> bulmer: ok.  can you or anyone recommend a pci card that will "just work"?  my card now is a bcm 4318.
[05:25] <vinay> Vsop_vsop_vsop: i followed some instructions to install compiz fusion ... perhaps that was not such a good idea.. hehe.. it crashes!! and i get no window decorations.... (probably a bug)
[05:25] <carter_> rich1, I'm running off of bcm4318 right now
[05:25] <carter_> it was very little trouble set-up
[05:25] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> vinay: well i am on 6.10 here and it works just fine my laptop.
[05:26] <carter_> rich1, have you tried getting wifi-radar?
[05:26] <Johno> I'm trying to put a file into etc/udev/rules.d but it says I do not have permission how do I do this?.. With a terminal?
[05:26] <vinay> Vsop_vsop_vsop: is that beryl or compiz fusion?
[05:26] <bulmer> rich1 i wish i can sell you mine.. :)
[05:26] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> vinay. beryl
[05:26] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> useing xrog.
[05:26] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> xorg***
[05:26] <nextse7en> Hey guys, how do I run the default bit torrent from the command line?
[05:26] <carter_> there isn't a default bit torrent
[05:26] <rich1> carter_: i use wifi-radar and love it.  are you using fwcutter or ndiswrapper for you card?
[05:26] <bulmer> Johno: then use sudo to get temporary root priviledge
[05:26] <thebigham> how do i remove the disk drive from desktop???
[05:26] <carter_> ndiswrapper
[05:26] <carter_> I'm using the install script from the forums
[05:27] <carter_> have you tried it?
[05:27] <bulmer> thebigham: make sure the power is off.then detach it.. :)
[05:27] <Johno> can I drag and drop after typing sudo or do I have to do it through the terminal?
[05:27] <vinay> Vsop_vsop_vsop: okay... perhaps i should try beryl.. compiz may be too cutting edge... and i think i'm on some sort of apt source that sends me nightly binaries.. !
[05:27] <nextse7en> Anyone? command to run bittorrent from the command line?
[05:27] <DeadLocked> carter_: Are you logged into AIM?
[05:27] <carter_> yes
[05:27] <carter_> freemuncie
[05:27] <rich1> carter_: i used it before but someone told me to use fwcutter because feisty supported bcms better.
[05:27] <bulmer> nextse7en: which client do you use?
[05:27] <thebigham> no lol, i mean the disk drive icon from the desktop
[05:27] <nextse7en> I can't find it in my applications menu.
[05:27] <MilitantPotato> What backup programs do you all use?
[05:27] <carter_> Do what you want, but I love ndiswrapper
[05:28] <DeadLocked> BARDUSDIABOLUS  <--add me
[05:28] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> what distro are you useing
[05:28] <carter_> I've been using it since beta
[05:28] <nextse7en> the original bittorrent.
[05:28] <Johno> how do I move a file using terminal?
[05:28] <hypertyper> anyone know why my screensaver is translucent since i installed compiz?
[05:28] <carter_> mv file destination
[05:28] <thebigham> that is the windows partition drive, i couldnt move the icon from desktop to the trash can
[05:28] <francis> Jack_Sparrow: hey I got the bcm43xx working with ndiswrapper
[05:28] <rich1> carter_: and can you get more than 11mps with it?
[05:28] <bulmer> nextse7en: if you know the application..from the terminal type its name with full path if necessary
[05:28] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> vinay: what ubuntu you useig
[05:28] <carter_> yup
[05:28] <vinay> Vsop_vsop_vsop: 7.04
[05:28] <francis> though i had to reinstall 7.04
[05:28] <bulmer> thebigham: right click on the icon and delete?
[05:28] <MilitantPotato> sedu mv path/filename path/filename to move files
[05:28] <carter_> well, not right now cause I'm pirating neighbor's wifi
[05:28] <MilitantPotato> cp is copy
[05:28] <carter_> but theoritically I can
[05:29] <rich1> carter_: ok.  i'm going to try it.  wish me luck.
[05:29] <LususX_> Johno: mv /path/to/file /path/to/new/location
[05:29] <thebigham> nope, i cant click on that
[05:29] <carter_> use the script though
[05:29] <bulmer> carter_: shhhh..am doing same..hehehe
[05:29] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> ya i have the set up for 6.10.. no  word on how it will work on 7.4
[05:29] <nextse7en> yeah, therin lies the problem, bulmer, I don't know where the path is to it... It only opens when I dl torrents.
[05:29] <thebigham> theres a option that says unmount volume
[05:29] <jfalconer> Hey guys. I'm  looking for some support... but not the traditional kind :)
[05:29] <carter_> bulmer, I won't tell
[05:29] <vinay> Vsop_vsop_vsop: alrighty.. will play with it. thanks :-)
[05:29] <rich1> carter_: the one posted by darknoob?
[05:29] <carter_> yeah
[05:29] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> vinay.. here
[05:29] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> check this out
[05:30] <bulmer> nextse7en: umm try locate torrent  and maybe it will show up on the list
[05:30] <jfalconer> this may be of interest to all ubuntu listeners of all experience levels
[05:30] <rich1> cool.  thanks carter and bulmer.
[05:30] <nextse7en> bulmer, k
[05:30] <carter_> no prob
[05:30] <bulmer> you'e welcome
[05:30] <carter_> pretty soon, you can steal wifi like me
[05:30] <revilodra1> i didnt appreciate suspending my inspiron 6400, closing the lid, opening the lid for it to come out of suspend, and having no screen
[05:30] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> Vinay: and i am sorry i ment to say Xgl not xorg..
[05:30] <rich1> brb if it works.
[05:30] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[05:30] <jfalconer> i recently spoke to Vorian from the ubuntu marketing team. we discussed a theme song for ubuntu and i'm working on a demo to send him and see where to go from there
[05:30] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> look at that .. and follow it step by step and Shazam
[05:30] <jfalconer> but in the spirit of open source i wanted to get some input from the ubuntu userbase
[05:31] <MrGreencastl1> Does anyone here use screenlets?
[05:31] <jfalconer> so anyway... if you want, check out http://www.midnighthaulkerton.com/alfadir/ where some of my music is, and let me know what you'd like to see in a ubuntu theme song
[05:31] <Johno> how do I edit a file that it says I do not have permission to?
[05:31] <bulmer> jfalconer: maybe you can compete with those Obama girls, Clinton girls, or Guilainnis girls? hehehe political youtube flicks
[05:31] <jfalconer> i can also be emailed at joelfalconer@midnighthaulkerton.com
[05:31] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> so about this record my desktop.. anyone have the proper install?
[05:31] <jfalconer> LOL yeah I saw those bulmer, i was almost sick!
[05:32] <carter_> Johno, google cmod
[05:32] <DeadLocked> carter_: Where you able to add me?
[05:32] <carter_> what's your name DeadLocked
[05:32] <DeadLocked> BARDUSDIABOLUS  <--add me
[05:32] <carter_> sorry Johno chmod
[05:32] <AzMoo[w] > If I put a var in /etc/environment it will be set for all users, right?
[05:33] <jfalconer> Anyway in case anyone missed it, that's http://www.midnighthaulkerton.com/alfadir/ (free, Creative Commons music) and I really appreciate feedback and input into what would make a great Ubuntu theme song :)
[05:33] <revilodra1> how do i install the kdedesktop without doubling up on menu items?
[05:33] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> ok i will go for a cigar...  ( record my desktop ) looking for some info on it... when i get back we will see how things pan out for me !!!
[05:33] <bulmer> AzMoo[w] : i dont think so...type just the word set  and see that you have more env variables
[05:34] <MilitantPotato> Can someone tell me a backup program that backs up the whole OS?
[05:34] <Johno> how do I edit it with out changing the permissions?
[05:34] <yeko> MilitantPotato   mondo does a great job
[05:34] <dr_willis> Johno,  sudo editoryoulike filenameyouwanttoedit
[05:34] <yeko> We are using it on our production servers
[05:34] <^Carter^> why do you want to back up a whole OS militant Potato?
[05:34] <MilitantPotato> Freeware yeko?
[05:34] <berent> !rcp  > MilitantPotato
[05:34] <dr_willis> revilodra1,  i never noticed the menu items doubling up.
[05:34] <^Carter^> Probably the best way to to just iso it though
[05:35] <Johno> how do I use just regular text editor?
[05:35] <bulmer> MilitantPotato: you have an installation cdrom or DVD right?
[05:35] <noldon> why dont i have /etc/inittab
[05:35] <yeko> Yep...the community has great support
[05:35] <berent> !rcp
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rcp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <MilitantPotato> Yes bulmer, CDR
[05:35] <dr_willis> JohanSalim,  find a console/text based text editor you like.. or use 'gksu graphicaleditoryoulike'
[05:35] <dr_willis> !editor
[05:35] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[05:35] <MilitantPotato> I'm wanting to back it up so I can try that 3d desktop
[05:35] <berent> Is there any light 3d game
[05:35] <bulmer> MilitantPotato: so no need to backup the os..use your CDR next time if you have to recover
[05:35] <MilitantPotato> Last time I tried Coriz or w/e, trashed my install
[05:35] <arifahadi> hadi
[05:36] <GamingX> Are shell commands in Red Hat Linux same as Ubuntu?
[05:36] <bulmer> noldon: what os do you have and what version?
[05:36] <MilitantPotato> So if I do recovery from the CD it will retain all my settings but remove the extra scripts and crap from installing stuff?
[05:36] <bulmer> GamingX: pretty much same same...bash
[05:37] <dr_willis> GamingX,  the bash shell.. is the bash shell...   most all the 'commands' that are used in the shell are the same.. theres a few littel extras/changes here and there.
[05:37] <dr_willis> GamingX,  learn the fundamentals..  then the shell knowledge you gain should also work on BSD, or UNUX, or SOlaris, or perhaps evven OS-X :)
[05:37] <maverick> i have a queer problem with networking here. When i try to use my LAN messenger (www.ipmsg.org) it shows only me and the users appear after some time. I have even tried using the windows version using wine. This happes even with counterstrike and other LAN applications. I have tried changing my IP Address and my MTU, still the same, can anyone help?
[05:37] <rainman> help, I jsut installed 7.04 with user Sam (me) what is the root password? I was never asked for it
[05:38] <bulmer> MilitantPotato: the settings are there normally..recovering dont normally involve resetting config files..but if you like you can always make a copy of file you consider config files for your settings
[05:38] <MilitantPotato> Will it reverse poorly installed mods?
[05:38] <francis> Hey what's the difference between beryl/composite and Desktop Effects ??
[05:38] <julio14> hello
[05:39] <bulmer> GamingX you want to see all the bash command available to you?
[05:39] <sunnypies> whats the command to update my nvidia drivers?
[05:39] <bulmer> MilitantPotato: dont know..just keep a copy of the ones you're really wanting to keep
[05:39] <thully> francis: Desktop Effects = compiz, beryl=a fork of compiz.  Beryl/Compiz are now merging together to form Compiz Fusion, which will be in the next release...
[05:39] <revilodra1> dr_willis: hmm ok
[05:40] <MilitantPotato> do I want mondo doc or ...?
[05:40] <francis> thully: thankss
[05:40] <thully> Generally, Beryl has more features, but Compiz is thought of as being more stable
[05:40] <NemesisD> from the prompt, how do i start x to the login screen?
[05:40] <noldon> bulmer i just installed ubuntu 7.04 amd64
[05:40] <dr_willis> NemesisD,  'startx'
[05:40] <bloo> is anyone familiar with the yaboot bug regarding initrd images >6MB? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yaboot/+bug/26426)
[05:40] <dr_willis> NemesisD,  logical eh?  :)
[05:40] <francis> thully: i have a lot of issues with beryl on my laptop
[05:40] <dr_willis> NemesisD,  sudo kdm or gdm get the login screen going..
[05:40] <rainman> guys, is there a default password for root? I just installed upuntu and only created a login for me
[05:41] <MilitantPotato> yeko: mondo-doc_2.2.4.tar.gz or mondo_2.2.4.tar.gz
[05:41] <bulmer> noldon: and it does not use /etc/inittab? i wonder what it uses
[05:41] <francis> display frezes when i flip terminals
[05:41] <dr_willis> !root
[05:41] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:41] <thully> Well, you can disable and try Compiz (Desktop Effects) and see if that works better
[05:41] <noldon> bulmer me to
[05:41] <NemesisD> dr_willis, that did the trick, thank you!
[05:41] <rainman> ubotu thanks
[05:41] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:42] <francis> thully: is there a manager like beryl for Composit ??
[05:42] <sunnypies> anyone know the command how to update my nvidia drivers?
[05:42] <francis> what about emerals ?? can i used those themes with composit
[05:42] <francis> ?
[05:42] <NemesisD> uh oh, this sounds bad "Internal error: failed to initialize HAL!"
[05:42] <dr_willis> sunnypies,  if there are newer ones in the repos and you have them installed then they should get included with  your apt-get update . updates
[05:42] <thully> francis: I don't think you can use all the themes, but there is some extras for compiz.  Open synaptic and search "compiz" to see what there is
[05:43] <MilitantPotato> yeko: 7.04
[05:43] <MilitantPotato> I'm not registered, can't PM :(
[05:43] <bulmer> noldon: see if you have /etc/event.d
[05:43] <thully> There is also Compiz Fusion, which you can find at a few third-party repositories.  That
[05:43] <sunnypies> dr_willis: oh ok yea i just did apt-get update so i should be good then right?
[05:43] <thully> 's what Gutsy (7.10) will have
[05:43] <dr_willis> sunnypies,  yes.
[05:43] <sunnypies> dr_willis: isn't there a glx command to verify in the terminal?
[05:44] <thully> !compiz fusion
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <dr_willis> sunnypies,  ive never noticed.. :)  never worried about it..
[05:44] <noldon> yes i do
[05:44] <GamingX2005> As I was asking before I was disconnected, is learning bash, shell commands necessary to become a pro in Ubuntu?
[05:44] <dr_willis> sunnypies,  the versions in the repos are not the latest and greatest nvidia version either.
[05:44] <dr_willis> GamingX,  Yes.
[05:44] <dr_willis> GamingX,  want to learn linux, learn the shell.
[05:44] <GamingX2005> So what books do I learn it from?
[05:44] <dr_willis> GamingX,  'using bash' and 100000+ web sites....
[05:45] <dr_willis> !abs
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <Johno> how do I instal kernel header packages to compile a driver?
[05:45] <dr_willis> GamingX,  the 'advanced bash scripting guide' is a must read also
[05:45] <berent> Is there any light 3d game
[05:45] <dr_willis> berent,  try 'slune' ?
[05:45] <dr_willis> !info slune
[05:45] <noldon> bulmer but i dont know how to change it to runlevel 3
[05:45] <ubotu> slune: 3D racing and car-crashing game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 10442 kB, installed size 25832 kB
[05:45] <bloo> anyone netboot ubuntu on a ppc?
[05:45] <dr_willis> if its in the repos. :)
[05:45] <Torahteen> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
[05:45] <bulmer> noldon or for anyone...i just found out myself... Feisty uses upstart /etc/event.d instead of /etc/inittab
[05:45] <GamingX2005> The Advanced Bash Scripting guide is by?
[05:45] <roxygirl> hey, anyone know why i can't get music files transferred to my mp3 player with amarok?
[05:46] <berent> dr_willis : thanks
[05:46] <ptn107> sunnypies: having the    nvidia-glx        package installed uses  the 96.31 drivers,   having  nvidia-glx-new     installed uses 97.55
[05:46] <Torahteen> The ubuntu upgrade killed my wireless set up! :(
[05:46] <dr_willis> GamingX2005,  its not a book its a howto.. check tldp.org or google for it. Its in the repos also.
[05:46] <Torahteen> I had ndiswrapper all set up and working fine, but the upgrade from dapper to edgy removed ndiswrapper
[05:46] <sunnypies> ptn107: thanks i will do that
[05:46] <Johno> what are the kernel headers packages?
[05:46] <noldon> bulmer ok so how do u change to runlevel 3
[05:46] <^Carter^> so install it again Torahteen
[05:46] <^Carter^> use Darknoob's script from the forums
[05:46] <ptn107> sunnypies: try not to have both installed simultaneously, that could be bad
[05:46] <Torahteen> It took me about 8 hours to figure it out last time
[05:47] <Torahteen> Darknoob's script?
[05:47] <Torahteen> link?
[05:47] <sunnypies> ptn107: ok
[05:47] <noldon> cuz i need to get out from x and into a tty consol so i can install nvidia drivers
[05:47] <yeko> noldon telinit 3
[05:47] <bulmer> noldon may i refer you to upstart.ubuntu.com
[05:47] <Falstius> to answer my own question from earlier, to get front panel audio working I had to add options snd_hda_intel model=3stack to a file in /etc/modprobe.d/
[05:47] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> so about this record my desktop. any takers?
[05:47] <MilitantPotato> yeko: mondo-doc or mondo?
[05:47] <bulmer> noldon i assume you can try gdm stop
[05:47] <^Carter^> Torahteen, search for it on the ubuntuforums.org
[05:47] <dr_willis> Falstius,  go put it in the forums so others can find the answer. :)
[05:48] <bulmer> noldon locate gdm first though
[05:48] <noldon> ok
[05:48] <Torahteen> ^Carter^ What will I be searching for?
[05:48] <^Carter^> darknoob ndiswrapper
[05:48] <^Carter^> you'll know it when you see it
[05:48] <Torahteen> ok
[05:48] <Torahteen> Thanks
[05:48] <Torahteen> Gonna upgrade to Feisty now first though
[05:48] <^Carter^> what torahteen, what chipset are you running?
[05:48] <Torahteen> Umm... not sure
[05:49] <Torahteen> I think it's a broadcom though
[05:49] <^Carter^> okay
[05:49] <Torahteen> It's a linksys wireless-G PCI card
[05:49] <^Carter^> ah never mind, then just install it manually
[05:49] <^Carter^> Don't use the script Torahteen
[05:49] <^Carter^> I forgot it was for a specific chipset
[05:49] <ptn107> sunnypies: i think i saw that you need to run         sudo nvidia-glx-config enable        after the install
[05:49] <Torahteen> *sigh*
[05:49] <Torahteen> Ok
[05:49] <MilitantPotato> yeko: Yes, I'm in synaptic looking at it now, about to approve the instal
[05:49] <MilitantPotato> install
[05:49] <Torahteen> I'm gonna have to ask a friend to help me again
[05:49] <Torahteen> He got it working for me last time
[05:49] <Johno> I need help installing somthing
[05:50] <Torahteen> Anyway, bye, next time I see you I'll be in feisty :)
[05:50] <NemesisD> ugh why is this happening, im trying to configure my network connection and i get "you are not allowed to access the system configuration"
[05:50] <Johno> it say in root directory run $ make all and when I type that it says no rule to make target all
[05:50] <bulmer> NemesisD: did you sudo ?
[05:50] <sunnypies> ptn107: ok whats the command to install?
[05:51] <NemesisD> bulmer, this is from the menu, it asked me for a password and took it
[05:51] <bulmer> Johno: what tarball you download? did untar it and cd'd to that  directory?
[05:51] <Johno> oh I have to put it in root or did it mean where ever I  put it?
[05:51] <bulmer> NemesisD: well is it the correct password?
[05:51] <ptn107> sunnypies: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new              it should automatically remove the    nvidia-glx package automatically, check before you hit Y to continue
[05:52] <NemesisD> bulmer, i believe it would have told me if it wasnt. and now the password prompt isn't coming up
[05:52] <bulmer> Johno: where did you download it at? go there and untar it from there
[05:52] <Johno> its untared
[05:52] <MilitantPotato> yeko: very nice, bet they're glad to have ya
[05:52] <Johno> and it gave me a folder
[05:52] <dr_willis> 'root' has many different meanings in linux. :)
[05:52] <dr_willis>  the root directory of the source would be the 'topmost' direcoty of the soruce tree
[05:52] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> so i tired this (     sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop gtk-recordmydesktop  ) and i get this " E: Couldn't find package recordmydesktop
[05:53] <bulmer> Johno: you must learn to prefix your responses with a nick or i may miss it if directed to me
[05:53] <MilitantPotato> yeko: so how do I run it :D
[05:53] <MilitantPotato> let me get the manual
[05:53] <dr_willis> Vsop_vsop_vsop,  try apt-cache search record | less and look for it.
[05:53] <FireDemonSiC> O.o
[05:53] <Johno> bulmer: ok
[05:53] <dr_willis> !find mydesktop
[05:53] <ubotu> Found: gtk-recordmydesktop, recordmydesktop
[05:53] <dr_willis> !info recordmydesktop
[05:53] <ubotu> recordmydesktop: Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 128 kB
[05:53] <FireDemonSiC> does anyone know the administrative password for a livecd (if there is one?)
[05:54] <bulmer> NemesisD: which program did you use to reconfigure your network?
[05:54] <dr_willis> FireDemonSiC,  there is none.
[05:54] <FireDemonSiC> crap
[05:54] <FireDemonSiC> thought so
[05:54] <FireDemonSiC> lol
[05:54] <dr_willis> sudo whatever
[05:54] <FireDemonSiC> have to wait for the install to finish to compile SDL
[05:54] <dr_willis> whould do it i thought
[05:54] <Netham45> what methods are available for encryption on a Linux system?
[05:54] <FireDemonSiC> i have to emerge the SDL library through the console
[05:54] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> Well now..shall we try this again
[05:54] <FireDemonSiC> cant access the root terminal without administrative pass :(
[05:55] <sunnypies> ptn107: cool it worked,   then i used the command glxgears to see if it worked
[05:55] <FireDemonSiC> hah glxgears
[05:55] <bulmer> Netham45: umm what do you want to do? ssh is encrypted connectivity
[05:55] <FireDemonSiC> reminds me of when i was trying to get FireGL working
[05:55] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> where was i...   oh ya .. this record my desktop.. how do i find it?
[05:56] <NemesisD> bulmer, im trying to use the network manager applet
[05:56] <GamingX2005> I have a Nvidia Geforce FX 5200, what are the best drivers, I used the nvidia-glx drivers and was not able to startup, and now I rolled back the changes, so what are the best drivers for it?
[05:56] <bulmer> NemesisD: what happened after you typed your password? nothing displayed?
[05:56] <jerkface> hi, im trying to compile something from a 7.04 livecd, but i keep getting errors like stdlib.h: no such file or directory
[05:57] <dr_willis> GamingX2005,  the nvidia-glx should of worked..
[05:57] <dr_willis> jerkface,  live cd dosent include the compiler stuff.
[05:57] <NemesisD> bulmer, that error came up
[05:57] <Johno> bulmer: I am trying to install something and it is not working can I give you the wiki link and ask from there?
[05:57] <jerkface> so then it's useless!?
[05:57] <ptn107> GamingX2005: try the     nvidia-glx-new   package
[05:57] <dr_willis> jerkface,  depends on your needs i guess...
[05:57] <cyanact> how could i get updatedb to index mounted drives in /media?
[05:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> like i said i typed in this      sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop gtk-recordmydesktop  ... .and got E: Couldn't find package recordmydesktop
[05:57] <dr_willis> jerkface,  im suprised it even has gcc on it.
[05:57] <bulmer> NemesisD: you said nothing happened the next time around?
[05:58] <GamingX2005> someone recommended envy...
[05:58] <Johno> blumer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent then Martian
[05:58] <ptn107> GamingX2005: just dont forget to run a    sudo nvidia-glx-config enable      afterwards
[05:58] <dr_willis> GamingX2005,  i dont reccomend it...
[05:58] <NemesisD> bulmer, the error comes up now but without the prompt, also this guide im using sucks, it asks me to apt-get 2 packages that sure as heck aren't on the CD :|
[05:58] <bulmer> Johno: you said you already un-tar it right? whats the directory name where you untar it to?
[05:59] <ptn107> GamingX2005: envy may be a possibility but im not familiar
[05:59] <dr_willis> GamingX2005,  on a new install - i can get my nvidia cards going in about 3 min.. :)
[05:59] <MilitantPotato> yeko: where does the manual download to?
[05:59] <Johno> bulmer: ~/Desktop?
[05:59] <dr_willis> GamingX2005,   I tend to just install the 'restricted manager' package and let it do the work
[05:59] <bulmer> NemesisD: well if its not on the CD, if your source.list is updated, it will use that to find the package you need
[05:59] <Falstius> dr_willis: I did put in the forum, with lots of google friendly details.
[06:00] <|_ocke> well i got halflife 2 demo running in steam in wine, but the display is only in one corner
[06:00] <roxygirl> has anyone used amarok to transfer music files to an mp3 player?
[06:00] <bulmer> Johno: okay..so in your Desktop..what the name of the dir created after you untar-ed?
[06:00] <NemesisD> bulmer, how am i supposed to update it with no internet connectivity
[06:00] <|_ocke> and only goes a little bit past halfway displaying, so no bottom and right of the screen, but its accelerated
[06:00] <Johno> ~/Desktop/martian
[06:00] <bulmer> NemesisD: good point..
[06:00] <Johno> bulmer: ~/Desktop/martian
[06:00] <bulmer> Johno: cd to that martian dir
[06:01] <Johno> I did
[06:01] <bulmer> Johno: there should be a Readme file, did you read it?
[06:02] <Johno> bulmer:I read the install file and did everything and it didn't work
[06:02] <NemesisD> bulmer, i just need to forward an internet connection to this computer via a lan cable
[06:02] <bulmer> NemesisD: lets try this...can you visit your /etc/networking/interface  and see which card is defined
[06:03] <NemesisD> bulmer, auto lo \n iface lo inet loopback
[06:05] <Johno> bulmer: the wiki says somthing about installing build-essential and kernel headers packages to compile the driver
[06:05] <varka> good morning
[06:05] <MilitantPotato> How do you run something as root?
[06:05] <KamiNoItte> hi, i can only
[06:05] <bulmer> Johno: yes those are needed as minimum to compile
[06:05] <GamingX2005> For beginners to linux,is "Beginning Ubuntu Linux: From Novice to Professional" by Keir Thomas and Apress publishers good enough because it is the only one I have.
[06:05] <jerkface> ok, how do i install the build-essentials .deb package
[06:05] <varka> !sudo | MilitantPotato
[06:05] <ubotu> MilitantPotato: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:05] <MajorPayne> !sudo | MilitantPotato
[06:05] <bulmer> NemesisD: whats the iface ?
[06:05] <varka> first ^^
[06:05] <thully> MilitantPotato: sudo <command> will do it
[06:06] <MajorPayne> varka: :-|
[06:06] <MilitantPotato> bah I was typing sodu
[06:06] <Johno> bulmer: How do I install them?
[06:06] <NemesisD> bulmer, just says iface lo inet loopback, i assume i would be looking for eth0 but it is absent from this file
[06:06] <m87> hi
[06:06] <m87> my na,e is marcos
[06:06] <bulmer> Johno: umm try  apt-get install build-essentials
[06:06] <m87> hola
[06:07] <Johno> bulmer: do I need an internet connection to do that?
[06:07] <NemesisD> bulmer, will you be on for a bit? i have to run right now but ill be back on in like an hour or 2 :/
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[06:07] <KamiNoItte> i can only start the live cd on this HP laptop and when i specify a specific resolution and after install the loadscreen comes up and all i get in the end is a background-lit black screen
[06:07] <hamadooo> i need help guys
[06:07] <hamadooo> u want to upgrade    my ipw3945 driver
[06:08] <jerkface> oh jesus dont bother w/o internet johno there is a list of dependencies a mile fucking long
[06:08] <jerkface> call me when ubuntu is a half-way decent os
[06:08] <bulmer> NemesisD: i may..not sure though
[06:08] <hamadooo> i want to upgrade  my ipw3945 driver
[06:09] <bulmer> Johno: yes your puter must be connected to the internet to download those files
[06:09] <Johno> thats the problem I'm installing a modem driver so I can be on the net
[06:09] <Cypher2> Ubuntu media player does not read this html code <param name="loop" value="true">
[06:09] <Cypher2> O_O
[06:10] <Cypher2> I am shocked
[06:10] <Johno> bulmer:I'm on a different computer right now
[06:10] <NemesisD> bulmer, actually i can talk to you on this laptop but i won't have access to the computer in question until then :P
[06:10] <MajorPayne> Johno: If you want you could download the packages on another computer and transfer them over with a CD.  Then install them with dpkg -i.  There may be an easier way that someone else may be able to help you with.
[06:10] <nj786> whats a good dvd plkayer for ubuntu
[06:10] <nj786> player
[06:10] <Cypher2> VLC media player 9i think
[06:10] <bulmer> Johno: a big delimna. :(
[06:10] <saxin> Yeah, VLC is nice.
[06:10] <bulmer> NemesisD: okay
[06:10] <Cypher2> Just VLC media player no 9 :P
[06:10] <Johno> MajorPayne: where do I get the files
[06:10] <NemesisD> probably wont do me much good
[06:10] <Andyho> yea back again! LOL
[06:10] <yeko> VLC is great!!
[06:10] <Johno> bulmer: can I transfer from one computer to another?
[06:11] <Cypher2> Go to add and remoove programs and type in VLC
[06:11] <Cypher2> on seach
[06:11] <Cypher2> search*
[06:11] <monkeyy> dd
[06:11] <bulmer> Johno: yes..transfer a file?
[06:11] <nj786> saxin: yea i just tried VLC and the sound comes blurry and the video quality comes out loww pixel
[06:11] <MajorPayne> Johno: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[06:11] <Johno> bulmer: like the build-essential
[06:11] <monkeyy> excuxe me, anyone knows Chinese ubuntu channel?
[06:12] <Flannel> !cn | monkeyy
[06:12] <ubotu> monkeyy: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:12] <bulmer> Johno: umm..i dont know all those dependencies..so it may be a bit difficult
[06:12] <monkeyy> thanks so much!!
[06:12] <nj786> saxin?
[06:12] <Johno> bulmer: ok
[06:13] <MajorPayne> Johno: Yea.  Dependencies would be a problem.  But it would work if you take the time to do it.
[06:13] <varka> Johno: you will "need build-essential" and "linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[06:13] <LDZ420> !JSON
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about json - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <Johno> varka: ok
[06:14] <rich1> bulmer: hey, bulmer.  just checking back to let you know ndiswrapper is working.  thanks again.
[06:14] <ExiledSoldier> I want to dual boot Ubuntu with Windows XP using two seperate HDD's and I want to know if I need to reformat my current Windows HDD as well as the one i'm going to use for Lunix.  Can I do that?
[06:14] <bulmer> rich1 congrats..perseverance is a must :)
[06:14] <Johno> what version is 6.06?
[06:14] <varka> Johno: but you are right, these metapackages, or at least build-essential, so you really need their dependencies
[06:14] <saxin> Johno: dapper
[06:15] <Johno> varka: what do you mean by dependencies?
[06:15] <maverick> hi
[06:15] <rich1> bulmer: and if iwconfig is right, it's at 54mps.  yessss!
[06:15] <Johno> how do I check what version mine is?
[06:15] <MajorPayne> Johno: Some packages depend on other packages.  They are called dependences.
[06:15] <maverick> I have a queer problem with networking in ubuntu 7.04. When i try to use my LAN messenger (www.ipmsg.org) it shows only me and the users appear a long time one by one. I have even tried using the windows version using wine. This happes even with counterstrike and other LAN applications. But when i did a ping sweep with nmap, i could see many users alive. This problem occurs in Fedora and Mandriva too. I do not have any firewall to my knowledge. I have
[06:16] <maverick>  tried changing my IP Address and my MTU, still the same, can anyone help?
[06:16] <varka> Johno: the package "build-essential" itself is empty it just depends of several other packages that are needed to compile things and will install them if you install the metapackage
[06:16] <nj786> how do  iget an update on VLC
[06:16] <Johno> varka: can I dl the meta package and transfer it?
[06:17] <MilitantPotato> yeko: thanks a lot, this looks to be much better then the last one I grabbed
[06:17] <varka> Johno: you can, but it doesnt help you, as you need its dependencies also
[06:17] <Johno> how do I know the dependencies?
[06:17] <varka> Johno: these two packages are quite essential, so i think you could be lucky finding them on your install-cd
[06:18] <berent> dr_willis : i am getting a error saying there is no module named soya upon installing slune
[06:18] <Polaris> Hey, stupid question, but I'm paranoid: would it be any kind of illegal to buy a domain name that is a linux command?
[06:18] <MajorPayne> Johno: Try this:  "sudo aptitude install -s build-essential"
[06:18] <MajorPayne> Johno: That will tell you all the packages you need.
[06:18] <dr_willis> berent,  interesting.. let me try it here.
[06:18] <Johno> ok
[06:18] <MajorPayne> Johno: Or, at least it might.
[06:18] <MajorPayne> I never tried it without network access.
[06:18] <Frogzoo> Polaris: doubtful - but this isn't really legal support here
[06:18] <dr_willis> berent,  try sudo apt-get install python-soya
[06:19] <Polaris> Frogzoo: I know, but I dont know of any place with a Lawyers of Linux chat room
[06:19] <sagematt> Any quick way to install the necessary packages for a LAMP server? A single apt-get line, for example.
[06:19] <Polaris> sagematt: sudo tasksel
[06:19] <Polaris> highlight LAMP
[06:19] <Frogzoo> !offtopic | Polaris
[06:19] <ubotu> Polaris: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:19] <Andyho> can someone help me figure out my dang nvidia card? I'm at such a loss.. I've tried just about everything I can find in the forums and such
[06:19] <ExiledSoldier> I want to dual boot Ubuntu with Windows XP using two seperate HDD's and I want to know if I need to reformat my current Windows HDD or if I only need to reformat the one I'm using for lunux.
[06:20] <berent> !pastebin
[06:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:20] <sagematt> Polaris: Awesome, thanks.
[06:20] <Polaris> ExiledSoldier: neither.  Just look up how to modify your grub config file to boot both of them.
[06:20] <varka> Johno: just put in your install-cd and try to install those two packages
[06:20] <Johno> varka: how do I do that?
[06:21] <MajorPayne> Andyho: What do you mean "figure out my dang nvidia card"?
[06:21] <berent> dr_willis :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30400/ i will brb
[06:21] <keenen> I do i shut down program that i can click on and right click it
[06:21] <varka> Johno: with sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:21] <keenen> My dock thing does not let me right click it and i cant shuty it down
[06:21] <Johno> varka: how does it know to do that from the cd?
[06:21] <dr_willis> berent,  slune just core-dumped on me.. :( bummer
[06:21] <varka> Johno: or with opening Siystem->Administration->Synaptic, searching for those packages and installing them
[06:22] <ExiledSoldier> Polaris: well I need to reformat the one for Linux anyways.  How can I reformat it?
[06:22] <dr_willis> berent,  i recall some bug in the package ages ago.. it may still be there. :(
[06:22] <Andyho> berent: I keep getting "failed to start the x server"
[06:22] <Polaris> ExiledSoldier: Planning on using Ubuntu?
[06:22] <ExiledSoldier> Polaris: yes.
[06:22] <varka> Johno: it should recognize it if it is put into drive
[06:23] <Polaris> ExiledSoldier: Just pop in your Ubuntu CD and boot to it, and once it boots into the liveCD click on "install."  The Ubuntu installer will take care of all formatting/partitioning automatically.
[06:23] <noldon> why is my computer running a fsck on one of my partitions every time i boot and i get a message about it using a filesystem with errors
[06:23] <shad0w1e> hey, anyone know about ubuntustudio? my install got botched and most of my packages are missing. is there any way to quickly add all missing packages?
[06:23] <noldon> and it dosnt continue the check
[06:23] <Polaris> ExiledSoldier: as a matter of fact, if you have both hard drives installed while youre installing ubuntu, it might even be able to modify your GRUB config to boot your other hard drive automatically.
[06:23] <ExiledSoldier> Polaris: and I can choose weather the Linux HDD is a master or a slave right? in this case my slave drive will be ubuntu.
[06:24] <Andyho> and if I type sudo nvidia-settings I get... nvidia-settings:5584 gtk-warning cannot open display
[06:24] <Johno> varka: after I put in the cd what do I do?
[06:24] <varka> Johno: with sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:24] <chowmeined> noldon: the filesystem could be corrupted, the hard drive could be failing
[06:25] <BehnamFedora> Andyho, have you thought about writing exit ?
[06:25] <dissection> How do I remove something I added to the menu?
[06:25] <BehnamFedora> because in reality when you close a console, the root session is not closed
[06:25] <Johno> varka: what is uname?
[06:25] <Polaris> ExiledSoldier: I strongly recommend making your XP drive the slave drive.  If you make your XP drive master you will have to install GRUB on a Windows partition table, and windows REALLY doesnt like it when you do that.
[06:25] <varka> Johno: its a command to show your current running kernel
[06:25] <noldon> chowmeined ok but when it fail i just press control-D and it continue booting and it also mounting the disk
[06:25] <Andyho> Benham: if i type exit all it does is bring me back to a command line
[06:25] <BehnamFedora> Johno : uname is a comande for having informations on your cpu architecture, your kernel version and arch, etc
[06:26] <ExiledSoldier> Polaris: will that change the performance of my Windows at all?
[06:26] <BehnamFedora> Andyho, yes exactly ! continue until the console close
[06:26] <GamingX2005> Does ubuntu open .chm files?
[06:26] <chowmeined> noldon: ok
[06:26] <maverick> http://www.file-post.com/view_code.php?id=594
[06:26] <chowmeined> GamingX2005: see xchm or gnochm
[06:26] <MajorPayne> BehnamFedora: I don't think you know what his problem is.
[06:26] <manic> for a 64bit machine, how much paging should I have if I like to run big apps (like animation & CAD)?
[06:26] <KamiNoItte>  whats the shortcut to bringup a console window?
[06:26] <chowmeined> manic: depends how much ram you have
[06:27] <manic> 4gb
[06:27] <BehnamFedora> MajorPayne, well, for me when I have this problem it's just because I haven't closed all the root session i've opened
[06:27] <noldon> and it call the harddrive warez-linux but i have set it to be mounted on wares
[06:27] <MajorPayne> Andyho: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:27] <chowmeined> manic: well for those kinds of apps, if you hit the paging file... it will ruin your performance
[06:27] <Polaris> ExiledSoldier: No, as long as you don't screw anything up.  Heres what I'd recommend: first, install the operating systems on each drive seperately, making sure only one dirve is plugged in at a time so you dont accidentally overwrite anything.  Then plug them both in with Ubuntu drive as master and XP as slave and look around for a guide on how to make GRUB boot a Windows XP slave drive.
[06:27] <chowmeined> manic: is your ram filling up?
[06:27] <chowmeined> manic: you could try just 1GB to see how it goes
[06:27] <MajorPayne> BehnamFedora: His x server isn't starting.
[06:28] <BehnamFedora> _oh_
[06:28] <chowmeined> manic: you can expand it later
[06:28] <manic> I haven't configured the machine yet
[06:28] <Johno> it said it couldn't find the linux headers file
[06:28] <Andyho> major - if I do that though does it go back to my original settings?? because I've done that and then I can reboot back using my onboard, but not my other vid card
[06:28] <BehnamFedora> MajorPayne, don't you agree with me that when you don't close the root session, it can make problems  ,   it's what I thought
[06:28] <sagematt> ExiledSoldier, there is an option at the end of the Ubuntu install to specify where to install GRUB.
[06:28] <MajorPayne> BehnamFedora: I have no clue what you are talking about.
[06:28] <varka> Johno: but it installed "build-essential" from cd?
[06:28] <sagematt> ExiledSoldier, hd0 would be your first drive (Windows, probably) and hd1 would be your Ubuntu drive.
[06:28] <chowmeined> manic: but with 4GB of ram, you shouldnt be running out of ram very often
[06:29] <dr_willis> ick. :) heh id hope not.
[06:29] <Johno> varka: it didn't say anything about build-essentials
[06:29] <MajorPayne> Andyho: Try disabiling your onboard in your bios.
[06:29] <manic> chowmeined: I can run out of RAM
[06:29] <MajorPayne> Andyho: Then try that command again.
[06:29] <chowmeined> manic: yea.. you can
[06:29] <varka> Johno: lets try it one by one, type first: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:29] <BehnamFedora> MajorPayne, well, when you open lot of consoles with root session, at a moment, you can't even launch a graphic program
[06:29] <chowmeined> manic: but (hopefully) it shouldnt be happening too often
[06:30] <MajorPayne> BehnamFedora: To launch a graphical program as root you use gksudo.
[06:30] <Andyho> Major: yep, already did that.. switched it from onboard to pci.. as soon as I go to load ubuntu it freezes up.. then I go back to the bios switch it back to onboard, reboot and end up with a command prompt saying that xserver didn't load
[06:30] <ExiledSoldier> Polaris: My Windows is already installed do I need to reformat it as well or can I leave it as it is?
[06:30] <Johno> Varka: I did and it says I need the edgy cd
[06:30] <Polaris> ExiledSoldier: you can leave it as is
[06:30] <varka> Johno: well, i thougth you put it in already
[06:30] <Johno> which i dont have
[06:30] <Johno> no I have the dapper cd
[06:31] <MajorPayne> Andyho: You say Ubuntu freezes up when you are rebooting?
[06:31] <varka> Johno: so you upgraded it over the internet, right?
[06:31] <ExiledSoldier> Polaris: thanks for the help.
[06:31] <manic> chowmeined: windows example: think about running autodesk inventor with hundreds of parts being driven my a Common Lisp with the entire COM interface loaded into it
[06:31] <Polaris> ExiledSoldier: check your PM
[06:31] <Johno> I think
[06:31] <varka> Johno: from dapper to edgy
[06:31] <Andyho> Major: yep. as soon as I enable the nvidia in ubuntu, then shut down, go into bios enable pci and reboot it starts to load and then freezes up
[06:32] <varka> Johno: ok, this makes things a lot more difficult :/
[06:32] <murdock> general question..in ubuntu 7.04 is there anyway i can do a non-gui installation?
[06:32] <Johno> no I had to download the alternite cd and it must have been edgy
[06:32] <MajorPayne> Andyho: Where does it freeze up.  Does it say anything on the screen?
[06:32] <Andyho> it's just the standard ubuntu with the orange bar under it
[06:32] <varka> Johno: well, then put it in
[06:32] <chowmeined> manic: well start with 1GB of swap.. 2GB if you really feel you need it.. you can add more later, and unless you are really limited on hard drive space, it should be an issue... yes?
[06:32] <manic> chowmeined: would I want 6gb of paging?
[06:32] <chowmeined> manic: btw.. what are you planning on using on linux?
[06:32] <Johno> I tried
[06:32] <orbisvicis> question: nexuiz vs. tremulous ?
[06:33] <mooseinmud> murdock...there is a text installer different iso i think
[06:33] <gcarrillo> yay i think i solved my bittorrent problem
[06:33] <chowmeined> manic: if you think you need it.. and you have the HD space.. go for it
[06:33] <orbisvicis> which is nicer, & which is more fun?
[06:33] <MajorPayne> Andyho: Ahh right.  I think F2 will disable the splash screen so you can see where it freezes up.
[06:33] <manic> SBCL, Open Genera, VMWare
[06:33] <chowmeined> manic: maya?
[06:33] <varka> Johno: so you are pretty sure, the cd you have put in is an edgy one, but the comman sais its not? right?
[06:33] <manic> no, Mirai
[06:34] <Johno> Varka: got it I had to put it in the other drive
[06:34] <ExiledSoldier> Polaris: PM?
[06:34] <varka> Johno: fine ^^
[06:34] <Andyho> k one sec I'll restart it and see..
[06:34] <MajorPayne> Andyho: F2 when you see the splash screen will take you to a console to see what is loading.  But I am not sure if that will help you or not.  You can try it.
[06:34] <manic> maya would be fun though
[06:34] <rainman> question, how do I move a file from comp2 (vista) to comp1 (ubuntu) I have both terminal open in linux
[06:34] <varka> Johno: so installation of "build-essential" went flawlessly?
[06:34] <chowmeined> manic: maya has a nice native linux version
[06:34] <Johno> varka: yes
[06:35] <manic> is it like $10k?
[06:35] <gcarrillo> does dalnet still work?
[06:35] <chowmeined> manic: yup
[06:35] <manic> :)
[06:35] <MajorPayne> gcarrillo: I am on DALnet now.  But that is a bit off topic.
[06:35] <chowmeined> manic: i think there is a personal learning edition... which blasts watermarks all over everything
[06:35] <varka> Johno: fine, then lets keep it simple, type "uname -r" into terminal
[06:35] <Johno> ok
[06:35] <dissection> manic: 10K is for the ultimate edition, there's complete version thats around $6K
[06:35] <manic> have you ever heard of Mirai?
[06:35] <gcarrillo> heh
[06:35] <intangir> im using the ubuntu bootup disk, and i need to boot a windows partition from off of it
[06:35] <chowmeined> manic: no
[06:36] <Johno> Varka do I include the generic?
[06:36] <varka> Johno: and then "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-<what that command put out>
[06:36] <manic> chowmeined: www.izware.com
[06:36] <gcarrillo> ok it just takes a long time to connect
[06:36] <chowmeined> manic: cool, ill look at that.. im not really an art person but..
[06:36] <MajorPayne> intangir: I suggest using your Windows CD and fix the MBR with it.
[06:36] <varka> Johno: just try, you will see, if it is on the cd or not
[06:36] <chowmeined> manic: have you used blender? :)
[06:36] <dissection> How do I add removing something that I've added to my menu using alacarte? It doesn't show up there when I run it again. I have duplicate entries to an application and need to remove them.
[06:36] <intangir> MajorPayne: i dont have a windows CD
[06:36] <Johno> varka: couldn't find
[06:37] <manic> chowmeined: what is that?
[06:37] <SirSherlock> i need to knw which is faster to run a UBuntu Server..celeron 1.2Ghz or Pentium 933mhz??????
[06:37] <dissection> Sorry for the repeat, don't know if someone already responded. I got disconnected
[06:37] <intangir> MajorPayne: thats the problem this laptop never came with a CD, i copied the restore partition to another disk and installed linux, but now i cant boot the partition cause the MBR is gone
[06:37] <chowmeined> manic: open source 3d modelling program.. the interface is kinda funky though imo
[06:37] <Amaranth> dissection: If it doesn't show up when you run alacarte a second time logout and it should be gone from the menu
[06:37] <varka> Johno: thats bad but solveable, wait a second
[06:37] <chowmeined> manic: http://www.blender.org/
[06:37] <rainman> guys, how do I copy a file from vista to ubuntu while in linux I see the file on vista but how do I copy it?
[06:37] <manic> chowmeined: is it a C++ program?
[06:37] <intangir> i know how to make grub load it, but i removed grub already..
[06:37] <chowmeined> manic: but people have made some incredible 3d stuff in it
[06:37] <intangir> i think this LiveCD is using grub somehow, i just dont know how to make it boot it
[06:37] <SirSherlock> rainman: www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:37] <varka> Johno: please tell me what the command "uname -r" said to you
[06:37] <MajorPayne> intangir: Ahh.  I don't know, can't help you.
[06:37] <SirSherlock> then look for ntfs-3g
[06:37] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[06:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:38] <Amaranth> !ntfs-3g | rainman
[06:38] <ubotu> rainman: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:38] <dissection> Amaranth: Then how do I add something there and let it stay after I logout?
[06:38] <chowmeined> manic: i think its in C
[06:38] <Johno> varka:2.6.17.10-generic
[06:38] <Andyho> major: nope doesn't disable the splash screen :/
[06:38] <varka> Johno: ok, wait
[06:38] <rainman> ubotu, thanks
[06:38] <Amaranth> dissection: if you add something in alacarte it'll stay until you remove it in alacarte
[06:38] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:38] <SirSherlock> anyone, whats faster pentium III 933mhz or celeron 1.2ghz
[06:38] <chowmeined> manic: but look through the gallery, people make some amazing stuff with it
[06:38] <manic> chowmeined: I'll try it.
[06:39] <MajorPayne> Andyho: Humm.  Ok, sorry.  Your problem is a little beyond me :-(
[06:39] <manic> chowmeined: I get my new machine friday
[06:39] <Andyho> Major: LOL no prob! I just noticed something else weird too.. my wireless keyboard is flashing like it's not connecting either
[06:39] <dissection> Amaranth: Well whatever I add isn't showing up there when I run it again
[06:39] <chowmeined> manic: do you use photoshop?
[06:39] <manic> chowmeined: sometimes
[06:39] <MajorPayne> Andyho: Not to say it can't be helped.  Just not by me.
[06:39] <Amaranth> dissection: you have to logout
[06:40] <Andyho> oh well.. guess I go back to onboard and try and figure it out later! Thanks for your help though Major!!
[06:40] <Amaranth> dissection: gnome-menus is broken, it doesn't update the menu or alacarte sometimes
[06:40] <manic> chowmeined: I'm primarily a CAD person
[06:40] <Andyho> night all!!
[06:40] <chowmeined> manic: ah ok
[06:40] <chowmeined> manic: one sec...
[06:40] <varka> Johno: you will have to download this, put it on whatever medium you have to exchange it with you other pc and install it with "sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic.deb" http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.17%2Flinux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb&md5sum=ec2770850d4038d804419540d10a3663&arch=i386&type=security
[06:41] <Johno> varka thanks
[06:42] <chowmeined> manic: there is brl-cad.. for designing solid objects
[06:42] <chowmeined> manic: http://brlcad.org/
[06:44] <varka> Johno: sry, the command isnt right, it is: "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/your/medium/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.deb"
[06:44] <grayhane> How can I get a usb ext hard drive to work in ubuntu ? it will only come up in read only mode ?
[06:44] <chowmeined> manic: how are you planning on using autocad?
[06:45] <manic> chowmeined: I wonder what kind of interface brlcad has for programmers
[06:45] <manic> chowmeined: VMWare
[06:45] <chowmeined> manic: not going to work
[06:45] <manic> graphics drivers?
[06:45] <alpha> anyone nowhere i can find the modem in kubuntu?
[06:45] <chowmeined> arent you doing 3d?
[06:46] <manic> chowmeined:  yeah, 3d in autocad?  sure.
[06:46] <jayde_drag01> someone who has an IM screen name of Yani i think was talking to me.. could you please pm me again?
[06:47] <chowmeined> manic: vmware will choke on 3d
[06:47] <manic> chowmeined: autocad has it's own software graphics drivers
[06:47] <sangeetha> hello all
[06:47] <manic> chowmeined: opengl i will do under ubuntu
[06:48] <chowmeined> manic: http://directory.fsf.org/productivity/cad/
[06:48] <chowmeined> manic: see if any of those might be useful to you
[06:49] <jayde_drag01> or... could i please get someone who's really knowledgable to IM me.. i really really need help.. AIM: the jayde drag0n YIM: jayde_drag0n MSN: jayde_drag0n@hotmail.com  please please help?
[06:49] <manic> chowmeined: I will bookmark that url
[06:49] <Johno> !whoops
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whoops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <manic> chowmeined: I am writing a knowledge-based engineering system, and i only need a cad or animation system to display output
[06:50] <manic> chowmeined: blender might be the right thing
[06:50] <chowmeined> manic: this one looks good: http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html
[06:50] <orbisvicis> !Sauerbraten
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sauerbraten - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <chowmeined> manic: blender is more targeted for 3d modeling, animation art
[06:50] <sangeetha> I am getting an error while compiling firefox:http://pastebin.ca/625766
[06:50] <chowmeined> manic: but its fully scriptable
[06:50] <sangeetha> could anyone help me to solve this error
[06:51] <manic> it's 2d
[06:51] <saxin> sangeetha: why are you compiling firefox?
[06:51] <mongolai> manic, blender will work for 3d animations, but it's pretty hard to use...
[06:51] <orbisvicis> blender corresponds more to maya/3dsmax, not any sort of cad
[06:51] <chowmeined> manic: yea qcad is 2d
[06:51] <manic> does blender have a binary interface similar like CORBA?
[06:51] <sangeetha> saxin, I have added a patch to it for enabling indic language printing support
[06:51] <gcarrillo> dude, using the bittorrent gui is hard on feisty
[06:51] <gcarrillo> i cant get it to run
[06:52] <|_ocke> k so im trying to run the halflife 2 demo from steam, and it runs and is accelerated, but it only shows in one corner
[06:52] <|_ocke> and cuts off part of the screen
[06:52] <chowmeined> gcarrillo: have you tried deluge? http://deluge-torrent.org/
[06:52] <|_ocke> im r unning nvidia fx 5500
[06:52] <gcarrillo> "Could not load wxPython. In order to use this script,
[06:52] <gcarrillo> you must have wxPython installed.  It is available in
[06:52] <gcarrillo> the package libwxgtk2.4-python."
[06:52] <chowmeined> manic: i dont know.. but its scripted using python
[06:52] <kbrosnan> sangeetha: are you using a .mozconfig if so would you pastebin that too
[06:52] <|_ocke> i also have a radeon 9800 pro that i could install if that might work better
[06:52] <ianmcorvidae> lol
[06:52] <gcarrillo> well i run fedora core on my other box
[06:52] <gcarrillo> and i want the bittorrent client it has
[06:52] <ianmcorvidae> oops.
[06:52] <sangeetha> kbrosnan, yes i'll paste it
[06:53] <gcarrillo> which i think is the standard one
[06:53] <metbsd> no good bittorrent client
[06:53] <gcarrillo> yeah
[06:53] <gcarrillo> i just want something that maintains state after shutting down
[06:54] <manic> chowmeined:  I think what I should do is write a COM client for SBCL
[06:54] <gcarrillo> the one on fedora is really good IMHO
[06:54] <chowmeined> manic: COM?
[06:55] <sangeetha> kbrosnan, http://pastebin.ca/625772
[06:55] <manic> chowmeined: DCOM actually, to talk to windows apps
[06:55] <Johno> how do I find the path to my usb thumb drive?
[06:55] <jayde_drag01> i had 2 internal harddrives Armada and Dib... they were read only and i needed them to be read write (please keep in mind i'm a newbie) so in my searching i found "ntfs-config" installed it and tried to enable the read write option... well then it unmounted the drives and told me i no longer had permissions to mount them... so i figurewd out how to log in as administrator.. and there they said they couldn't be mounted because the log 
[06:55] <chowmeined> manic: ok
[06:56] <manic> chowmeined: I hate the fact that all the major CAD vendors suck up to microsoft
[06:56] <Johno> how do I find the path to my usb drive?
[06:56] <guix> hi
[06:56] <chowmeined> manic: oh well, it might change down the road
[06:56] <manic> chowmeined:  even CATIA is windows now, used to be all unix
[06:57] <manic> PRO/E used to be unix
[06:57] <manic> (i think)
[06:57] <Johno> ..
[06:57] <guix> whatcha doing
[06:57] <kbrosnan> sangeetha: i think if you are enabling pango you need to select a graphics toolkit http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Configuring_Build_Options
[06:57] <Johno> how do I find the path to my usb drive
[06:57] <Johno> ?
[06:58] <mongolai> Johno, I *think* it is in /media
[06:59] <Johno> ok thanks
[07:00] <hypertyper> anyone know how to set up 5.1 surround on ubuntu 7.04 desktop?
[07:00] <manic> Mirai is really cool though, and I think they are doing a Linux port, and I can integrate with that
[07:00] <ferronica> Newer version of VLC Media player is available for ubuntu Fiesty fawn GNOME ????
[07:00] <varka> Johno: plug it in and type: "dmesg | grep removable
[07:01] <jayde_drag01> i had 2 internal harddrives Armada and Dib... they were read only and i needed them to be read write (please keep in mind i'm a newbie) so in my searching i found "ntfs-config" installed it and tried to enable the read write option... well then it unmounted the drives and told me i no longer had permissions to mount them... so i figurewd out how to log in as administrator.. and there they said they couldn't be mounted because the log 
[07:01] <krinns> jhey
[07:02] <Johno> varka: that didn't tell me the path
[07:02] <Eleaf> Hello, is it possible to get thumbnail previews in the gnome image importer with RAW images?
[07:02] <azslande> I had a game crash the other day and it got stuck in an infinate sound loop. I restarted my computer totally to fix it, and now I have no sound at all. Anyone have any suggestions?
[07:02] <Eleaf> It seems to be unable to display a preview, which is weak ;).
[07:02] <varka> Johno: and it told you what?
[07:02] <krinns> am trying to install US roborics serial modem on Ubuntu dapper
[07:02] <Eleaf> the gnome camera importer
[07:03] <krinns> when i dial through wvdial it connects and hang up then?
[07:03] <Johno> sd:0"0"0")" attached scs1 removable disk sda
[07:03] <krinns> any idea
[07:03] <varka> Johno: ok, then type "cat /etc/mtab | grep sda
[07:03] <eshaase> how do i determine whether or not mod_python is doing what it should be?
[07:04] <Johno> I tried the dpkg and it didn't work
[07:04] <mongolai> eshaase, create a python cgi and try to load it in a browser. If it loads you're good
[07:04] <hypertyper> krinns: try http://forum.freespire.org/showthread.php?t=6601
[07:04] <varka> Johno: what was its output or errormsg?
[07:05] <grayhane> Ki4ikl, do you use any log programs in Linux ?
[07:05] <sangeetha> kbrosnan,should i add this in the mozconfig file --enable-default-toolkit=gtk2
[07:05] <Johno> cannot access archive: no suck file or directory
[07:05] <varka> Johno: then you mistyped the path to the .deb file
[07:05] <azslande> Hello, I seem to have lost all sound after a game crashed, can anyone help?
[07:05] <Johno> ok I will try again
[07:06] <varka> Johno: just "cd" to your USB stick first
[07:06] <Johno> I did
[07:06] <eshaase> mongolai: my python cgi scripts worked before i had mod_ptyhon installed though
[07:06] <krinns> hypertyper here is logs http://pastebin.com/m111e9926
[07:06] <Johno> Varka: then what?
[07:06] <ferronica> how do i check i am running newest DELUGE ??
[07:06] <Eleaf> can the gnome camera importer display thumbnails of RAW files?  It's horribly annoying otherwise, I can't see what I'm importing.
[07:06] <mongolai> eshaase, oh. well that sucks ;(
[07:06] <varka> Johno: ok, then type sudo dpkg -i linux-  ...  then hit TAB-button and it will complete the command for you
[07:06] <CowoK_GokiL> hi
[07:07] <ferronica> how do i check i am running newest DELUGE ??
[07:07] <KI4IKL> grayhane, what kind of log? Like Ham log? Nah, I dont' have a general, i'm just a tech and I don't have much to log.
[07:07] <ferronica> what command should i use ?
[07:07] <mongolai> eshaase, seriously, I guess I have no idea
[07:07] <hypertyper> krinns: i'm a bit out of touch with modem tech, guy, sorry. you might find more info at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/22119
[07:08] <Johno> Varka: it worked
[07:08] <defrysk> ferronica, apt-cache policy
[07:08] <pagan0ne> once i plug in a usb drive (assuming it doesnt auto mount, and use works properly) where should i go about looking for it under /dev ? i checked for sd* but the only sd* drives i see are my 2 sata drives im running off of...
[07:08] <ferronica> defrysk: thats it
[07:08] <hypertyper> krinns:  although from what i saw, it was connecting ok, then getting disconnected. try having it call your cell?
[07:08] <varka> Johno: fine, so now you should be ready to compile you driver
[07:08] <krinns> ok
[07:08] <Johno> I'll try
[07:08] <grayhane> KI4IKL, well when do you plan to go for the general ?
[07:08] <krinns> wait
[07:09] <krinns> yes it seems ok but its hangup in a seconf
[07:09] <krinns> second
[07:09] <varka> pagan0ne: plug it in and type: "dmesg | grep removable
[07:09] <KI4IKL> yea, I do grayhane....being 12 and all, I don't have a LOT Of time to study :)
[07:09] <varka> pagan0ne: what does it say?
[07:10] <ferronica> defrysk: i wanna check deluge
[07:10] <pagan0ne> varka: it returns nothing
[07:10] <grayhane> well if I can help I would be glad to , I am a VE and have most of the info for the test on my site
[07:10] <hypertyper> krinns: you might try watching the console output while dialing. it'll prolly hang up when it doesn't detect a carrier, but if it gets that far, your problem may lie elsewhere
[07:10] <varka> pagan0ne: seems system doesnt recognize your stick at all
[07:10] <krinns> am taking device as ttyS0
[07:10] <defrysk> ferronica, apt-cache policy theluge
[07:11] <pagan0ne> varka: it did when i was on a 32bit system? same stick port everything
[07:11] <brandoman043> can someone help me recover my ubuntu?  i got help setting up a wireless card yesterday and after a restart the loading bar stops at about 15% and i think xorg isnt loading
[07:11] <desertc> Hello - referring to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/59688 - what does it mean when someone says the bug is "fixed upstream", as is said in the last comment?
[07:11] <krinns> well that works well on windows
[07:11] <Cyber_Stalker> !upgrade
[07:11] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:11] <KI4IKL> hey grayhane register, or identify so I can pm you
[07:11] <ferronica> defrysk: tushar@tushar-desktop:~$ apt-cache policy Deluge
[07:11] <ferronica> W: Unable to locate package Deluge
[07:11] <ferronica> tushar@tushar-desktop:~$
[07:11] <varka> pagan0ne: just remove it, type dmesg, plug it back in and again type dmesg and see what changes at the end
[07:11] <defrysk> ferronica, no caps in package
[07:11] <brandoman043> ive tried to use a backup xorg.conf file but i was unable to cp the file because the disk isnt writeable aparently
[07:12] <brandoman043> even tho i have sudo privledges
[07:12] <Johno> varka I'm having trouble now
[07:12] <pagan0ne> varka: i have some errors in dmsg if you would like me to pastbin them or private message you?
[07:12] <ferronica> defrysk: same error again :(
[07:12] <brandoman043> ive also tried logging in as root and my root password is failing righ tnow
[07:12] <brandoman043> can anyone help or even see my text?
[07:12] <varka> pagan0ne: its worth a try, but i wont promise anything^^
[07:13] <varka> Johno: what kind of?
[07:13] <defrysk> ferronica, then deluge is not available in ubuntu try getdeb.net, maybe a package is available there
[07:13] <kidbuntu> please help me. i'm having a hard time with my mouse sensitivity
[07:13] <pagan0ne> varka: well actually im a bit further, it now shows a sdc in my /dev, but fdisk -l /dev/sdc returns nada
[07:13] <brandoman043> can i get someone to help me please
[07:13] <kidbuntu> adjusting the mouse preferences doesn't make any changes at all
[07:14] <varka> pagan0ne: what does "cat /etc/mtab | grep sdc"  say
[07:14] <pagan0ne> varka: nada
[07:14] <Johno> I makde the install and then the instructions for running say usse modprobe martian_dev when I type that it says error inserting martian_dev operation not permitted
[07:14] <kidbuntu> !mouse
[07:14] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:14] <grayhane> KI4IKL moved to hamradio, where are ya
[07:15] <brandoman043> /identify
[07:15] <brandoman043> :(
[07:15] <varka> pagan0ne: ok, so you have to mount it manually with "sudo mkdir /media/stick" and "sudo mount /dev/sdc /media/stick"
[07:15] <pagan0ne> varka: is there any way to unload and reload the kernel module that handles the usb bus?
[07:15] <Johno> varka: any help?
[07:15] <wastr2> hello
[07:15] <brandoman043> i dont want to resort to spamming until i get attention.  just a moment please
[07:15] <pagan0ne> varka: it used to "just work" but i tried now, and nada
[07:15] <brandoman043> hellp
[07:15] <brandoman043> hello
[07:15] <hypertyper> anyone know how to set up 5.1 surround on ubuntu 7.04 desktop?
[07:15] <wastr2> I was running aptitude, and had to ^C it
[07:15] <wastr2> now it only opens in readonly
[07:16] <wastr2> how do I fix this?
[07:16] <jayde_drag01> i had 2 internal harddrives Armada and Dib... they were read only and i needed them to be read write (please keep in mind i'm a newbie) so in my searching i found "ntfs-config" installed it and tried to enable the read write option... well then it unmounted the drives and told me i no longer had permissions to mount them... so i figurewd out how to log in as administrator.. and there they said they couldn't be mounted because the log 
[07:16] <task0> hello all, what would be the vest version of ubuntu to install on an old pc... pentium 3 few ram
[07:16] <brandoman043> wastr2, can you read this
[07:16] <varka> Johno: you have to type "sudo modprobe martian_dev"
[07:16] <Johno> ok
[07:16] <KI4IKL> What is the ident port for IRC?
[07:16] <wastr2> brandoman043: yes
[07:17] <jayde_drag01> i am not a bot.. please someone help me..... i'm a girl does this help you?
[07:17] <brandoman043> thanks sry i couldnt tell if anyone could see it.  needed a guinea pig
[07:17] <varka> pagan0ne: sry, no clue
[07:17] <pagan0ne> jayde_drag01 is deff a bot :p
[07:17] <jayde_drag01> lol
[07:17] <jayde_drag01> thank you pagan
[07:17] <brandoman043> haha
[07:17] <varka> pagan0ne: what does manual mount say?
[07:17] <jayde_drag01> at least someone is talking to me
[07:18] <task0> any one?+
[07:18] <pagan0ne> varka: you mean "man mount"
[07:18] <kidbuntu> My alt+tab button doesnt work anymore after updating my feisty fawn
[07:18] <jayde_drag01> omg gurlz exist on teh intarweb!!!1
[07:18] <varka> pagan0ne: no, i meant the output of the two command i gave you to mount the stick manually
[07:18] <krinns> hey
[07:18] <krinns> hypertyper
[07:18] <rich1> has anyone here used apt-file?
[07:18] <krinns> its the same error
[07:19] <krinns> but yes i can dial my cell
[07:19] <bruenig> rich1, yes
[07:19] <pagan0ne> varka: "can't read superblock"
[07:19] <rich1> bruenig: is there an aptitude analogue for it or is it ok to use with aptitude?
[07:19] <task0> hello all, what would be the best version of ubuntu to install on an old pc... pentium 3 few ram
[07:19] <brandoman043> can someone help me recover my ubuntu?  i got help setting up a wireless card yesterday and after a restart the loading bar stops at about 15% and i think xorg isnt loading
[07:20] <chohmann> brandoman043: try booting to the live cd, and replace the corrupted xorg.conf with the one the live cd geernates.
[07:20] <brandoman043> thx
[07:20] <bruenig> rich1, apt-file just downloads a big text file that has all the packages and the files inside those packages and then searches that, it has nothing to do with getting files or anything of that sort
[07:20] <mongolai> task0, all versions should be ok
[07:20] <pagan0ne> varka: i think i found my problem, i examined my minisd disk and realized the "guts" are still inside my camera... just the plastic shell came out
[07:20] <jayde_drag01> and btw in case someone is not answering me because i'm asking for pm... a: i keep migrating from this screen to do stuff.. so i lose the dcomments... b: for some preson pm in irc .. you can' see what i'm saying... so if i'm in IM we CAN see each other and i can leave the screen to do what is being asked of me and not lose what you're saying and i'll know if your talking to me cuz it beeps
[07:20] <varka> pagan0ne: oO
[07:20] <rich1> bruenig: cool.  thanks.
[07:20] <varka> pagan0ne: ok...
[07:20] <task0> mongolai: really? is for old pc's to shools
[07:20] <varka> pagan0ne: or not ^^
[07:21] <mongolai> task0, I'm running feisty on a celeron 333MHz with 384 megs RAM.
[07:21] <jayde_drag01> and i've been working on this since yesterday at 9pm and now i can't even access my harddrives.. i have no music.. can't get to my documents.. nothing
[07:21] <mongolai> task0, It works fine. Slow but fine
[07:21] <pagan0ne> varka: yeah the pcb and chip were loose of the housing, looks like i need to ask whats the prefers method of "gluing" electronics... baring hot glue?
[07:21] <task0> mongolai: lot's of ram there... here i'm talking about <256 mb
[07:21] <sauvin> Where can I find a list of repositories for feisty?
[07:21] <kidbuntu> !titlebar
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about titlebar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <task0> mongolai: really less
[07:22] <varka> pagan0ne: #hardware ^^
[07:22] <Cyber_Stalker> does this look serious?
[07:22] <Cyber_Stalker> cyber@cyber:~$ gksu "update-manager -c"
[07:22] <Cyber_Stalker>   warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
[07:22] <pagan0ne> varka: there it goes, thanks for the help :p i knew it wasnt linux... hardware problem... eh
[07:23] <varka> sauvin: its german, but i think it helps: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/sources.list#head-48fea719979b721434538940530ea788e5541951
[07:23] <bruenig> Cyber_Stalker, it isn't pleasant that's for sure
[07:23] <mongolai> task0, that *might* be a problem. You might want to look into xubuntu in that case
[07:23] <chohmann> jayde_drag01: was there more to your message after "couldn't be mounted because to log..."
[07:23] <Cyber_Stalker> bruenig: will it give me majour problems?
[07:24] <sauvin> Ben, si c'est tout en allemagne, c'est a quoi bon pour moi!? :D Vielen Dank, varka :)
[07:24] <bruenig> Cyber_Stalker, I have no idea what it means but it doesn't look nice
[07:24] <task0> mongolai: does it bring open office?
[07:24] <Cyber_Stalker> ok well lets hit enter then :D
[07:24] <vihaobmt> a;o
[07:25] <mongolai> task0, I think it does. But keep in mind open office is a memory hog itself.
[07:25] <vihaobmt> ???
[07:25] <varka> sauvin: well, you have to replace "de" with "fr" i think
[07:25] <task0> mongolai: thanks... one last question, whats the difference between destktop version and alternate?
[07:25] <bruenig> task0, desktop version is a live cd with gui installer, alternate is a text based install
[07:25] <kidbuntu> can someone help me. there are a lot bad changes after I upgraded to feisty fawn
[07:26] <tapio> When I find open ports with nmap on my system, how can I identify what processes are using those ports?
[07:26] <krinns> hey
[07:26] <krinns> hypertyper see thsi http://pastebin.com/m4d3acf30
[07:26] <task0> bruenig: thank you very much!
[07:26] <mongolai> task0, What bruenig said^^ :)
[07:26] <varka> sauvin: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/sources.list
[07:27] <azslande> Hello, I cant get any sound to come through after I had a game get stuck in a sound loop. Can anyone help?
[07:27] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know how to read iTunes's album artwork files, .itc?
[07:27] <task0> mongolai: thanks
[07:27] <task0> =)
[07:27] <mongolai> task0, no problemo!
[07:29] <task0> mongolai: muchas gracias :) cheers from south america!
[07:29] <azslande> Anyone one at all good with sound?
[07:29] <xoRock> need help, i need to see list of how many space left in each partition
[07:29] <bullgard4> After a cold boot Ubuntu 7.04 will display my OO.o Database not on workspace 4 but on workspace 1 although I have stored the session with Base on workspace 4. Another Ubuntu 7.04 computer does not make this error but its Ubuntu is no upgrade from 6.10.
[07:29] <chohmann> xoRock: free?
[07:29] <bruenig> !anyone | azslande
[07:29] <ubotu> azslande: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:29] <xoRock> chohmann, o yes
[07:29] <bruenig> xoRock, df -ha
[07:29] <azslande> *smacks forehead*
[07:30] <sauvin> Varka, that was an apparently feeble attempt at humour on my part. A great chunk of the text wouldn't be available to anybody who reads no German, that's true, but the links speak for themselves. Aber weiter anders.... was fuer Idiot kann kein Deutsch lesen?
[07:30] <xoRock> bruenig, thx
[07:31] <MilitantPotato> Linux is always on HDA/SDA right?
[07:31] <bruenig> MilitantPotato, I think so
[07:32] <pagan0ne> varka: well thanks for all your help!
[07:32] <varka> sauvin: the link speaks for itself, but the sources.list has to be adjusted for yor running systems language, thats what i missed when posting
[07:32] <sauvin> MilitantPotato: linux can quite literally be almost anywhere.
[07:32] <varka> pagan0ne: no problem
[07:32] <MilitantPotato> How can I see what partition it's on?
[07:32] <thully> MilitantPotato: sda is normally the first drive
[07:32] <varun0> I suppose you could even have the kernel on a floppy? or LiveCD?
[07:33] <thully> MilitantPotato: use the "mount" command, and look for whatever is mounted "on /"
[07:33] <thully> That's your Linux root partition
[07:33] <rainman> guys, I just installed 7.04 and running tests on apps. music sounds good when played, but when playing avi via totem 2.18.1 the sounds is barely loud, what movie player do you guys using? or how to improve totem?
[07:33] <bruenig> MilitantPotato, grep ' / ' /etc/mtab
[07:33] <varun0> rainman: have you tried another avi file?
[07:33] <krinns> hypertyper u there?
[07:34] <MilitantPotato> /dev/hda3 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[07:34] <rainman> varun0 yes
[07:34] <varun0> rainman: I assume you've tried turning the volume up? :-)
[07:34] <bruenig> MilitantPotato, so /dev/hda3 it is
[07:34] <rainman> varun yes
[07:34] <vihaobmt> help
[07:34] <MilitantPotato> hmm, i could of sworn that's my swap partition, oh well :D
[07:34] <varun0> rainman: try vlc, mplayer or xine
[07:34] <vihaobmt> help me
[07:34] <thully> unless you have a separate home or other partition (which would be /home)
[07:34] <bullgard4> MilitantPotato: use sudo gparted
[07:35] <rainman> varun0, well I use vlc on windows. do they have a linux version?
[07:35] <sauvin> When that happens to me (sound too low) on $other_distribution, I fire up a mixer and turn up PCM.
[07:35] <varun0> rainman: yessir they do
[07:35] <brian__> hello
[07:35] <varun0> vihaobmt: how? :-)
[07:35] <dissection> !crontab
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crontab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <rainman> varun0, ok I'll check that, thanks
[07:35] <sauvin> vlc, in fact, works VERY VERY WELL under Linux.
[07:35] <vihaobmt> varun0
[07:35] <vihaobmt> Regis????
[07:35] <varun0> rainman: np. try sauvin's suggestion, too
[07:36] <MilitantPotato> I love VLC.
[07:36] <vihaobmt> Reg nick?
[07:36] <varka> !ask vihaobmt
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask vihaobmt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <rainman> varim0, what's that?
[07:36] <bruenig> vlc is no different than anything else, in fact vlc now runs mostly on ffmpeg which is an mplayer library, it has static libraries of codecs though so people think it is somehow unique
[07:36] <grayhane> isnt crontab used to set programs to start at perset times ?
[07:36] <bruenig> grayhane, yes
[07:36] <brian__> any body know where to find tool for building c++ code for  saga dreamcast
[07:36] <TheDukeNY> There are normalization plugins i hear for some linux audio programs, but I've never seen or tried any
[07:36] <vihaobmt> Reg nick? varka
[07:36] <varun0> rainman:  "When that happens to me (sound too low) on $other_distribution, I fire up a mixer and turn up PCM."
[07:37] <varun0> vihaobmt: you need to do that in the server window, not in the channel
[07:37] <varka> vihaobmt: you mean, how to register you nick on freenode?
[07:37] <bruenig> TheDukeNY, mp3gain is a good script that will normalize all your music files without loss
[07:37] <TheDukeNY> yeah
[07:37] <vihaobmt> yes?
[07:37] <varka> vihaobmt: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:37] <TheDukeNY> but I dont think that will help him get louder sound in avi
[07:37] <uNR[Ron] talent> has ubuntu gotten 5.1 working on k8v-se deluxe mobo yet? ad1940 chip i think (prolly wrong). last i tried it didnt work at all for 5.1
[07:37] <bruenig> he probably is having codec problems
[07:37] <TheDukeNY> it might do, if its running an mp3 stream
[07:37] <vihaobmt> money?
[07:37] <bruenig> !codecs
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:37] <vihaobmt> :((
[07:38] <TheDukeNY> i doubt its codec problems, when I play avi files on ubuntu i hardly get sound either
[07:38] <varun0> uNR[Ron] talent: I'd do a google search for the chipset "<chipset name> 5.1 ubuntu" or something similar
[07:38] <TheDukeNY> I would just try to find a good normalization plugin
[07:38] <dissection> grayhane: Yes, I was just reading something about it on a forum
[07:39] <bruenig> I played them all the time when I used ubuntu and play them on my two other distros and are fine, I use mplayer exclusively now though, but it is likely codecs, what else could it be unless that avi is bad
[07:39] <uNR[Ron] talent> varun0, tried all the methods when feisty came out (been at it since hoary), all the tuts...just cant seem  to get it working right
[07:39] <varun0> TheDukeNY: what is a normalization plugin?
[07:39] <TheDukeNY> varun: any plugin that can normalize the audio stream
[07:39] <varun0> und3rB3ar: hm. what exactly is the problem? I had to fight to get my PCI soundcard working
[07:39] <MilitantPotato>  Are you confident that your kernel           
[07:39] <MilitantPotato>                  is a sane, sensible, standard Linux          
[07:39] <MilitantPotato>                  kernel? Say 'no' if you are using a          
[07:39] <MilitantPotato>                  Gentoo <1.4 or Debian <3.0, please.
[07:40] <MilitantPotato> Does ubuntu fall under that? :P
[07:40] <MilitantPotato> Its Mondo asking
[07:40] <varun0> TheDukeNY: interesting. I didn't know those existed. pretty cool
[07:40] <sauvin> I'mve been using ubuntu now for all of maybe twenty minutes and have already decided it's staying on this computer no matter what.
[07:40] <TheDukeNY> To normalize a file means to raise its volume so that the highest level sample in the file reaches a user defined level.
[07:40] <brian__> hello want write game code in c/c++ for sega dreamcast on ubuntu , where can i find tools to do that
[07:41] <MilitantPotato> Next week the wife gets an install of it
[07:41] <RickyFalk> does anyone know how to easily connect to a wireless network using ubunto, becuz i can get the internet to work using an ethernet connection, but i cant get any connection to work for wireless, and i dont really know how to use the code n stuff to change it...i just wish there was a userfriendly interface that showed u the available networks to connect to like windows does...are there any suggestions?
[07:41] <krinns> helo
[07:41] <krinns> u there
[07:41] <bruenig> RickyFalk, it comes with networkmanager
[07:41] <RickyFalk> ok
[07:41] <bruenig> RickyFalk, have you used that?
[07:41] <varka> RickyFalk: network-manager
[07:41] <bruenig> no dash
[07:42] <RickyFalk> i think so? i am not at it right now becuz im on vacation, but im pretty sure i have messed with the network manager, but i have no luck
[07:42] <varun0> RickyFalk: what chipset do you have?
[07:42] <brian__> HELP
[07:42] <RickyFalk> and someeone made me copy some code to them and tehy told me that it has recognized my wireless card and that its installed
[07:42] <RickyFalk> chipset?
[07:42] <bruenig> RickyFalk, I have never used it either, it is best to make sure you can connect through cli first and then from there start experimenting with gui clients, I have settled in with wifi-radar which is a very nice gui client
[07:42] <varun0> brian__: emacs? :-) what exactly do you need?
[07:42] <varun0> RickyFalk: the chipset on your wireless nic?
[07:42] <RickyFalk> ok so how do i get this wifi radar
[07:43] <bruenig> RickyFalk, are you on your ubuntu box now?
[07:43] <RickyFalk> im not so sure, but its a linksys wireless card installed into the cpu
[07:43] <RickyFalk> no im not
[07:43] <varun0> brian__: what sort of tools do you need?
[07:43] <bruenig> RickyFalk, I would recommend getting on that and popping back in here when you can
[07:43] <varka> RickyFalk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WLANHowTo
[07:43] <RickyFalk> i wish i could, but i just felt like entering this chat and seeing what some suggestions are for when i get back home i can mess wit it
[07:43] <brian__> compiler for sh4 cpu ,
[07:43] <cast> right. newb question. default ubuntu install. is there a /usr/src/linux symlink?
[07:44] <bruenig> RickyFalk, I would just deal with iwconfig iwlist and dhclient from cli but you may not be comfortable with that
[07:44] <sauvin> Grr. the repositories synatics already knows about right out of the box have pretty comprehensive content.
[07:44] <kidbuntu> is there a way that I can reinstall ubuntu without erasing all my files. I mean not reformatting everything
[07:44] <varun0> cast: AFAIK, sources aren't installed with a default install, but I could be wrong
[07:44] <TheDukeNY> bruenig: mp3gain is win binary
[07:44] <cast> varun0: as i thought. its the same in debian.
[07:44] <sauvin> Kidbuntu, that might not be the way to go. Do you have a USB drive large enough to hold your irreplaceable stuff?
[07:44] <bruenig> !info mp3gain
[07:44] <ubotu> mp3gain: Lossless mp3 normalizer with statistical analysis. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.6-3 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 160 kB
[07:44] <bruenig> TheDukeNY, ^ no
[07:45] <RickyFalk> thank you guys for the suggestions
[07:45] <TheDukeNY> ok, nm
[07:45] <TheDukeNY> thier website has no linux binaries though
[07:45] <bruenig> may not
[07:45] <TheDukeNY> http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/download.php
[07:45] <bruenig> they are out there somewhere
[07:45] <varun0> cast: I think the package name is linux-source. but I'd double check that
[07:45] <kidbuntu> sauvin: well sort of. but the problem is, after performing so many updates on fesity fawn until nothing is left to update. I'm having a hard time using my computer
[07:45] <varun0> brian__: no clue, man
[07:46] <TheDukeNY> bruenig: the question though is if it will work with an mp3 stram from an avi video though :\
[07:46] <sauvin> Because it's slow?
[07:46] <bruenig> TheDukeNY, https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=49979
[07:46] <bruenig> TheDukeNY, no
[07:46] <bullgard4> How can I default Gnome_Search_Tool > Search folder from ~ to / ?
[07:46] <TheDukeNY> bruenig: doH!
[07:46] <kidbuntu> sauvin: like the titles on my title bar is on the middle, and the maximize, close, minimize button, automatically adjust when you resize the window.
[07:46] <bruenig> it is zipped which is odd but still linux
[07:47] <kidbuntu> sauvin: I have a zero accell of my mouse.
[07:47] <kidbuntu> sauvin: alt+tab button doesnt work anymore
[07:47] <TheDukeNY> bruenig: i suppose thats a new project someone should get started on then
[07:47] <brian__> some one told GNU tool kit , but all I can find is compilers for regular cpu like intel and amd
[07:47] <bruenig> TheDukeNY, I don't see it having any purpose
[07:47] <brian__> i know it out there I will keep looking
[07:47] <brian__> thanks
[07:48] <TheDukeNY> bruenig: i use fddshow on my win partition, i use the normalization feature when I watch avis many timesd
[07:48] <sauvin> Kidbuntu, if that happened to me, I'd save work files and other personal data that can't be replaced, and just install new, with the admonition to myself NOT to get so damn nuts with downloading stuff.
[07:48] <b123> has anyone used a dell Inspiron Notebook 1420 N that comes with ubuntu? If so please talk to me
[07:48] <bruenig> TheDukeNY, just turn the volume down
[07:48] <TheDukeNY> bruenig: i use it to turn the volume up
[07:49] <bruenig> mp3's are played in mass and repeatedly
[07:49] <bruenig> avis aren't
[07:49] <TheDukeNY> bruenig: normalize audio by %300
[07:49] <TheDukeNY> bruenig: some divx/xvid movies have quiet sound, sometimes it needs it
[07:49] <kidbuntu> sauvin: well the problem also, my ubuntu doesnt detect anything anymore of whatever i mount. like my USB is not detected
[07:49] <bruenig> turn the volume up
[07:50] <TheDukeNY> bruenig: my laptop volume doesnt get any louder
[07:50] <bruenig> it has extremely limited purpose
[07:50] <bruenig> maybe 5 people can use it
[07:53] <krinns> hye
[07:53] <MilitantPotato> Aw X(
[07:53] <krinns> when i try to connect to my iSP my modem gets hungup
[07:54] <krinns> immediately
[07:54] <krinns> any idea?
[07:54] <MilitantPotato> Ok, it can't backup linux because it's mounted
[07:54] <MilitantPotato> but I can't unmount it..
[07:54] <Bleed> I must confess.
[07:54] <Bleed> I'm in love with a woman, and her name is Ubuntu.
[07:54] <bruenig> !ot | Bleed
[07:54] <ubotu> Bleed: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:54] <MilitantPotato> That must be depressing
[07:54] <toogodoo> i need help partioioning, i know partition magic but dont know how to even spell the 2 ubuntu partition proggies. can anybody help...btw i have spent 8 hrs on google and the answer aint there either, HELP
[07:55] <tiejaz> gparted?
[07:55] <MilitantPotato> dont use partition magic
[07:55] <Bleed> gparted
[07:55] <Bleed> or even fdisk is better than partition magic :P
[07:55] <MilitantPotato> true.
[07:55] <Skif> I have an HP c500 laptop, and while the headphone jack works, it isn't automatically shutting off the internal speakers, and I can't figure out how to make it.
[07:55] <Bleed> If you haven't ever partitioned, I suggest cfdisk
[07:55] <MilitantPotato> I can't get linux to boot after creating unformated partitions with PM
[07:56] <Sidlet> Man nautilus is a hog, anybody have any suggestions for a replacement?
[07:56] <Bleed> @.@
[07:56] <Sidlet> or alternative rather.
[07:56] <Gurpartap> http://pcmanfm.sf.net
[07:56] <MajorPayne> Sidlet: Gnome-Terminal?
[07:56] <Gurpartap> Sidlet, ^^
[07:56] <Bleed> :P
[07:56] <Gurpartap> lol
[07:56] <mongolai> Sidlet, Thunar is one alternative, but lacks some nifty features
[07:56] <cast> Sidlet: sure, thunar
[07:57] <Skif> trolling through alsamixer doesn't seem to show any switch I could set.  Where else should I look for suggestions?
[07:57] <cast> thunar isn't the worlds fastest file manager, admittedly, but it is a good compromise :>
[07:57] <tiejaz> I need help either installing mindless automaton or apprentice on ubuntu
[07:57] <Bleed> hrm, is nautilus really that bad for you Sidlet?
[07:58] <mongolai> I like Thunar. I use it with e17, but it seem to lack samba integration:(
[07:58] <Sidlet> no, i'm just impatient, i run old hardware :P
[07:58] <MilitantPotato> How do I backup linux?
[07:58] <Bleed> ah :p
[07:58] <MilitantPotato> Mondo fails because / is mounted
[07:58] <Gurpartap> Sidlet, pcmanfm is just fine at most features
[07:58] <Gurpartap> and it's fast after all
[07:58] <Gurpartap> me too on old hardware
[07:58] <Gurpartap> PIII 256mb ram :D
[07:58] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: tar the files you want to back up and store it somewhere else?
[07:59] <mongolai> me three on old hardware
[07:59] <texp> what is the best linux FTP client in your opinions?
[07:59] <bruenig> gftp
[07:59] <bruenig> !best
[07:59] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[07:59] <MilitantPotato> What do I need to backup to restore my settings?
[07:59] <bruenig> !backup | MilitantPotato
[07:59] <ubotu> MilitantPotato: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:59] <Gurpartap> texp, better than any other: gftp
[07:59] <MilitantPotato> like hardware config and program settings
[07:59] <Bleed> MilitantPotato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[07:59] <tiejaz> does anyone know where I can download a windows .vmx file?
[07:59] <Bleed> That link I posted is very straight forward.
[08:00] <cast> tiejaz: not legally
[08:00] <MilitantPotato> I got them all open, thanks guys/gals
[08:00] <tiejaz> that's fine, cast
[08:00] <Bleed> If you're looking to rip off Windows
[08:00] <Bleed> You're better off finding a copy of a cd and creating your own vmx
[08:00] <varka> where are the entries defined that are shown up under "Places"?
[08:00] <tiejaz> i don't want to have to reboot in xp just to play some mtg
[08:01] <bruenig> varka, deep in the gnome garbage code I am sure, you cannot modify that I assure you, I must have spent 20 hours total beating my brains in
[08:01] <bruenig> xfce saved me from gnome hell though thankfully
[08:01] <Bleed> I was wondering the same thing
[08:01] <Bleed> My external harddrive mounts to Places, but my second internal doesn't
[08:01] <Skif> Any suggestions on how to get my internal speakers to shut off when I put in my headphones?
[08:01] <Bleed> Was wondering that as well.
[08:02] <Bleed> Is that possible Skif? o.O
[08:02] <tiejaz> so does anyone know where i can download a windows vmx?
[08:02] <stanthecaddy> Bleed: I think if you drag it into the sidebar of shortcuts in the file explorer it will be listed in there
[08:02] <Skif> Bleed: I kinda hope so... it works fine on my work laptop, but not on my personal one.
[08:02] <niuq> i had a problem with a file that was on my usb, and i cant open it now, there is any tool for recovering files?
[08:02] <Bleed> stanthecaddy: yea it is, but it doesn't get grouped with the other drives.  Guess that's just me being anal :P
[08:03] <MajorPayne> !offtopic | tiejaz
[08:03] <ubotu> tiejaz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:03] <koprnicus> Can anyone tell me what eth0:avai is ?
[08:03] <Bleed> Can you not just shut the power off? :P
[08:03] <bruenig> koprnicus, where do you see that
[08:03] <conorkirkpatrick> kopornicus: eth0 is your ethernet controller
[08:04] <bruenig> avai looks a lot like avahi which would make sense
[08:04] <tiejaz> hey i need help installing this: http://mindless.sourceforge.net/
[08:04] <koprnicus> bruenig, In the network setup. I see lo, eth0 and eth0:avai
[08:04] <Skif> Bleed: Kinda defeats the purpose of having headphones, doesn't it?
[08:04] <stanthecaddy> Bleed: ah I see, well im not sure how to do that then - sorry
[08:04] <bruenig> koprnicus, does it show up under ifconfig
[08:04] <niuq> there is any tool for recovering files?
[08:04] <niuq> i have a corrupted file on my usb
[08:04] <bruenig> tiejaz, download extract, compile
[08:04] <tiejaz> also, when I alt-tab with two running programs it skips the dormant one
[08:04] <tiejaz> always
[08:04] <tiejaz> how do i compile it
[08:05] <Bleed> tiejaz
[08:05] <Bleed> just use make
[08:05] <bruenig> !compile | tiejaz
[08:05] <ubotu> tiejaz: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:05] <tiejaz> i did
[08:05] <tiejaz> it didn't wokr
[08:05] <tiejaz> *work
[08:05] <Bleed> what error did you get?
[08:05] <tiejaz> hold on
[08:05] <bruenig> tiejaz, you  need to pay attention to the ./configure output, it will tell you what you are missing
[08:05] <bruenig> unless ./configure goes through smooth, it won't make
[08:05] <Bleed> there's no config for it
[08:07] <gcarrillo> what up what up
[08:07] <MilitantPotato> bleed
[08:07] <MilitantPotato> nice post, one question
[08:08] <tiejaz> tiejaz@tiejaz-desktop:~/Desktop/mindless$ make
[08:08] <MilitantPotato> if I want my tgz to go do  a different partion, would the command look like this:
[08:08] <tiejaz> gcc -Wall -g `pkg-config gtk+-2.0 --cflags` -c mindless.c
[08:08] <tiejaz> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[08:08] <tiejaz> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[08:08] <tiejaz> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[08:08] <niuq> there is any tool for recovering corrupted files?
[08:08] <tiejaz> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[08:08] <tiejaz> mindless.c:12:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[08:08] <tiejaz> mindless.c:13:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
[08:08] <tiejaz> mindless.c:14:20: error: string.h: No such file or directory
[08:08] <MajorPayne> !paste tiejaz
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste tiejaz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <tiejaz> mindless.c:15:20: error: unistd.h: No such file or directory
[08:08] <tiejaz> mindless.c:16:21: error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory
[08:08] <tiejaz> mindless.c:17:28: error: gdk/gdkkeysyms.h: No such file or directory
[08:08] <MajorPayne> !paste | tiejaz
[08:08] <ubotu> tiejaz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:08] <tiejaz> In file included from mindless.c:18:
[08:08] <tiejaz> game.h:23: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before GtkWidget
[08:08] <tiejaz> game.h:62: error: expected =, ,, ;, asm or __attribute__ before target_table
[08:08] <Bleed> >.<
[08:08] <tiejaz> game.h:84: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before GtkWidget
[08:08] <tiejaz> game.h:94: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before GtkWidget
[08:08] <tiejaz> In file included from game.h:115,
[08:08] <tiejaz>                  from mindless.c:18:
[08:08] <tiejaz> kplayer.h:13: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before GtkWidget
[08:08] <MilitantPotato> tar cvpzf /dev/hda5/backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /
[08:08] <tiejaz> kplayer.h:27: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before GtkWidget
[08:08] <tiejaz> In file included from mindless.c:19:
[08:08] <tiejaz> playarea.h:13: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before GdkPixbuf
[08:08] <tiejaz> In file included from mindless.c:20:
[08:08] <Bleed> Obviously, you need to install gtk+-2.0
[08:08] <tiejaz> zone.h:8: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before GtkWidget
[08:08] <niuq> ...
[08:08] <tiejaz> zone.h:34: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before GtkWidget
[08:08] <Bleed> As it says clearly
[08:08] <tiejaz> zone.h:35: error: expected =, ,, ;, asm or __attribute__ before * token
[08:08] <tiejaz> zone.h:36: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before GtkWidget
[08:08] <tiejaz> zone.h:37: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before GtkWidget
[08:09] <tiejaz> In file included from mindless.c:23:
[08:09] <Bleed> Stop...pasting...
[08:09] <tiejaz> dialogs.h:3: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before gpointer
[08:09] <Bleed> orz
[08:09] <tiejaz> dialogs.h:21: error: expected declaration specifiers or ... before gpointer
[08:09] <tiejaz> dialogs.h:30: error: expected ) before * token
[08:09] <mongolai> lol
[08:09] <tiejaz> dialogs.h:32: error: expected ) before * token
[08:09] <tiejaz> dialogs.h:35: error: expected =, ,, ;, asm or __attribute__ before * token
[08:09] <niuq> wtf?
[08:09] <tiejaz> In file included from mindless.c:27:
[08:09] <Nutubuntu> That's just rude.
[08:09] <tiejaz> images.h:32: error: expected ) before * token
[08:09] <tiejaz> mindless.c:29: error: expected ) before * token
[08:09] <tiejaz> mindless.c:30: error: expected ) before * token
[08:09] <MajorPayne> !ops
[08:09] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[08:09] <tiejaz> mindless.c:31: error: expected ) before * token
[08:09] <bruenig> !ops
[08:09] <tiejaz> mindless.c:33: error: expected ) before * token
[08:09] <Nutubuntu> Gnight all ...
[08:09] <tiejaz> mindless.c:34: error: expected ) before * token
[08:09] <tiejaz> mindless.c:35: error: expected ) before * token
[08:09] <bruenig> what an idiot
[08:09] <tiejaz> mindless.c:36: error: expected ) before * token
[08:09] <Nutubuntu> t/y nixternal
[08:09] <nixternal> jeesh
[08:09] <Nutubuntu> g'night all
[08:09] <bruenig> he didn't even paste the right stuff, that is make error, not the ./configure error
[08:10] <MilitantPotato> bleed
[08:10] <Bleed> there is no config
[08:10] <MilitantPotato> whats the website to post code?
[08:10] <bruenig> !paste
[08:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:10] <Bleed> he just needed to install gtk+-2.0
[08:10] <MilitantPotato> ty
[08:11] <Ayabara> Lately, Gmail has been _very_ slow in my Firefox. It hangs for many seconds before loading a page. Anyone else encountered this problem?
[08:11] <niuq> any tool for recovering damage files, like doc. documents?
[08:11] <bruenig> niuq, no
[08:11] <MilitantPotato> Bleed: would this put it on hda5 ?    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30408/
[08:12] <bruenig> MilitantPotato, no
[08:12] <bruenig> MilitantPotato, don't mess with /dev/ stuff, you want to put it in mountpoints
[08:12] <bruenig> MilitantPotato, where is the /dev/hda5 mount point?
[08:12] <MilitantPotato> so hda5/backup.tgz ?
[08:12] <Bleed> You want to put it in mount points
[08:12] <Bleed> like
[08:12] <MilitantPotato> As in name?
[08:12] <Bleed> /home/MilitantPotato/Backup/
[08:12] <bruenig> MilitantPotato, do grep hda5 /etc/fstab
[08:13] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: In Ubuntu a partition is mounted somewhere on the root filesystem.
[08:13] <Bleed> like in your /mnt or /media folder
[08:13] <MilitantPotato> media/hda5
[08:14] <Bleed> then use /media/hda5/backup.tgz
[08:14] <MilitantPotato> so instead of dev/hda5 it should be media/hda5
[08:14] <MilitantPotato> What does dev/ do?
[08:14] <MilitantPotato> wait I can google that.
[08:14] <conorkirkpatrick> MilitantPotato: It is a folder with ALL your comp's devices
[08:14] <Bleed> /dev/ directly points to your hardware
[08:14] <kidbuntu> 7.04 doesnt detect any media devices that i have
[08:14] <bruenig> if hda5 is big enough to hold all the files in your filesystem, I would just use rsync
[08:14] <Bleed> it lists all your computers devices
[08:14] <MajorPayne> /dev is the location of device files.
[08:14] <bruenig> it will take longer initially but you can keep an up to date backup very simply
[08:15] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: The leading / is sometimes important when you are talking about paths.
[08:15] <MilitantPotato> Ive noticed that payne :)
[08:15] <Bleed> ;)
[08:15] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: If you don't have the leading / you are talking about relitave paths.
[08:15] <MilitantPotato> Kinda odd, and hard to remember
[08:15] <Bleed> everything starts at /
[08:15] <MilitantPotato> so / = root
[08:15] <MilitantPotato> regardless
[08:15] <MilitantPotato> withouth the leading /, it thinks you're talking about the current folder?
[08:16] <Bleed> dev/ insinuates something is infront of it
[08:16] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: Yes.
[08:16] <MilitantPotato> infront of it how?
[08:16] <Bleed> like it's a folder inside a folder
[08:16] <bruenig> directory*
[08:16] <Bleed> bah
[08:16] <MilitantPotato> ah, how would a dev command work?
[08:16] <Bleed> windows terminology
[08:16] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: Dev command?
[08:16] <Bleed> you don't really use /dev/ unless you're messing with your hardware
[08:16] <bruenig> MilitantPotato, there is no dev command, they are just files, everything in linux is a file, including your hardware
[08:16] <MilitantPotato> /dev/w/e
[08:17] <bruenig> processes are files
[08:17] <MilitantPotato> ah ok
[08:17] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: In *nix, everything is a file.  Including all your devices.
[08:17] <bruenig> everything is a file
[08:17] <Bleed> inside /dev/ is where your hardware lies :D
[08:17] <MilitantPotato> That explains why drives are folders :D
[08:17] <Bleed> *directories
[08:17] <Bleed> =P
[08:17] <tiejaz_> hey how do I install gtk+-2.0 on ubuntu 7.04
[08:17] <Bleed> apt-get
[08:17] <bruenig> !info gtk
[08:17] <ubotu> Package gtk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:17] <MilitantPotato> so /dev is only for low level disk access like formatting/partitioning
[08:17] <bruenig> !find gtk
[08:17] <Bleed> correct
[08:17] <ubotu> Found: compiz-gtk, evince-gtk, gcalctool-gtk, gftp-gtk, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon (and 365 others)
[08:18] <MilitantPotato> ok cool
[08:18] <MilitantPotato> that makes a lot of sence now.
[08:18] <kidbuntu> 7.04 can't detect my USB pls help me
[08:18] <bruenig> kidbuntu, what is the /dev/name of the usb
[08:18] <kidbuntu> KIDBUNTU
[08:18] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: For instance, your first hd may be /dev/sda, your first partition may be /dev/sda1, but in order to access it you have to mount it on the filesystem somewhere.
[08:18] <bruenig> kidbuntu, no it isn't
[08:19] <kidbuntu> bruenig: that's the name of my usb KIDBUNTU
[08:19] <bruenig> kidbuntu, when you plug it in wait a second and do dmesg and see what the /dev/name is
[08:19] <bruenig> it will be three letters followed by a number
[08:19] <bruenig> sdc1
[08:19] <bruenig> sometimes it can be two letters I think
[08:19] <kidbuntu> bruenig: what do you mean dmesg that i will see?
[08:19] <Takmadeus> greetings
[08:19] <tiejaz_> with apt-get, what package do I type to get it?
[08:19] <bruenig> kidbuntu, plug it in, run dmesg
[08:20] <bruenig> tiejaz_, learn how to search
[08:20] <MilitantPotato> ah ok
[08:20] <Takmadeus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3043678&postcount=11
[08:20] <kidbuntu> bruenig: how should i post it. pls give me link to pastebin
[08:20] <Takmadeus> anyone is up to it_
[08:20] <bruenig> kidbuntu, you can't see what it is calling it, look closely
[08:20] <bruenig> !paste
[08:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:21] <tiejaz_> bruenig: how do I search?
[08:21] <bruenig> tiejaz_, well I would hope you are familiar with synaptic, or apt-cache search
[08:21] <MajorPayne> tiejaz_: "apt-cache search searchTerm"
[08:21] <tiejaz_> thx
[08:21] <kidbuntu> bruenig: do  you mean the name of the device itself?
[08:21] <Takmadeus> anyone up for it?
[08:21] <bruenig> kidbuntu, just paste it, I am getting bored
[08:21] <Takmadeus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3043678&postcount=11
[08:21] <kidbuntu> JetFlash TS1GJFV10
[08:22] <kidbuntu> bruenig: do  you mean the name of the device itself  sda1
[08:22] <bruenig> kidbuntu, yes the /dev/name
[08:22] <krinns> hey
[08:22] <krinns> what this mean
[08:22] <bruenig> like I says
[08:22] <krinns>  gconfd (muhammad.saqlain-9658): Could not open saved state file '/home/muhammad.saqlain/.gconfd/saved_state.tmp' for writing: Read-only file system
[08:22] <krinns> all files are opening as readonly
[08:22] <Bleed> krinns: use sudo
[08:22] <Bleed> sudo gedit w/e
[08:22] <progress0r> is there anyway to improve the fonts for ubuntu feisty or even use the windows ttf fonts?
[08:23] <tiejaz_> apt-cache search gtk+-2.0 has no results
[08:23] <Bleed> krinns: you're trying to edit files only an admin can open
[08:23] <Bleed> prefixing your command with sudo lets you type in your admin password
[08:23] <Bleed> so you can save them
[08:23] <bruenig> tiejaz_, apt-cache search gtk
[08:23] <ioioioioiiiio> hmmm my dad got on my computer and now streams (pls) dont work :( what could he have done
[08:23] <Takmadeus> Hello
[08:23] <tiejaz_> bruenig: that has hundreds
[08:23] <Takmadeus> mind if you all check something?
[08:24] <Takmadeus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3043678&postcount=11
[08:24] <kidbuntu> bruenig: can you help me with something realy tough?
[08:24] <bruenig> tiejaz_, search through it, or you can use grep, apt-cache search gtk | grep 2
[08:24] <MilitantPotato> hmmm
[08:24] <bruenig> just play with it
[08:24] <bruenig> narrow the search terms
[08:24] <MilitantPotato> Error "Invalid parameters" while copying "/home/mili...for UBUNTU"
[08:24] <toogodoo> where can i got get real answers as to how to dual boot xp and ubuntu...i have tried 5 times and blew up disk all 5 tries and five formats in 3 days sux!!!, all i want to do is install the damn thing in its own space with the 3 required partitions.
[08:24] <bruenig> kidbuntu, I thought you had a usb problem
[08:24] <tiejaz_> toogodoo: it is hella easy
[08:24] <toogodoo> bill.....
[08:25] <toogodoo> bull too
[08:25] <kidbuntu> bruenig: not only that. my mouse sensitivity, i cant get it fixed. after performing an update of 7.04
[08:25] <MilitantPotato> Toogodoo
[08:25] <MilitantPotato> one second
[08:25] <tiejaz_> install xp, then run the live cd
[08:25] <ioioioioiiiio> sayting could not connect there might not be a correct plugin or invalid url
[08:25] <krinns> but
[08:25] <bruenig> kidbuntu, ask the channel
[08:25] <tiejaz_> it should install grub
[08:25] <krinns> simple user can do write in his own home folder
[08:25] <toogodoo> network wont work, vid card wont work no some entry missing and it halts...you tellin me thats fun???
[08:25] <krinns> i cant write in my own home folder
[08:25] <Takmadeus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3043678&postcount=11
[08:26] <MilitantPotato> toogodoo: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236
[08:26] <krinns> i cant write as root indeed
[08:26] <MilitantPotato> Video how-to
[08:26] <MajorPayne> krinns: Do ls -l ~, what user owns the files and what user are you?
[08:26] <bruenig> !enter | krinns
[08:26] <ubotu> krinns: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:26] <jd_> hello can some one help me with a window problem
[08:27] <varka> how to change a starting parameter of the gnome-search-tool shown under "Places" menu?
[08:27] <krinns> see logs http://pastebin.com/m3c599647
[08:27] <tiejaz_> apt-cache search gtk | grep 2 has hundreds of results
[08:27] <tiejaz_> can someone just tell me what package name gtk+-2.0 has?
[08:27] <bruenig> tiejaz_, well look through them, gees
[08:27] <krinns> i think some thing wrong with my raid controller
[08:28] <ioioioioiiiio> i wonder why my dad would remove codecs :(
[08:28] <jd_> when i click on a aplication it does not come up in front of my active window how can i change this
[08:28] <krinns> its the whole file system
[08:28] <bruenig> tiejaz_, do some more grepping to narrow the search results, do you think this channel will find every package out there
[08:28] <bruenig> that you ever need
[08:28] <MajorPayne> krinns: That has to do with your writing to your home directory?
[08:28] <bruenig> the irc package management technique
[08:28] <ioioioioiiiio> he also rebooted by pulling power cord could that have messed something up?
[08:28] <MilitantPotato> what path is the desktop?
[08:28] <tiejaz_> I don't know how grep works
[08:28] <Bleed> /home/user/desktop
[08:28] <bruenig> !find libgtk
[08:28] <ubotu> Found: libgtk1.2, libgtk1.2-common, libgtk1.2-dbg, libgtk1.2-dev, libgtk1.2-doc (and 93 others)
[08:28] <Bleed> err
[08:28] <MilitantPotato> grep is a word pad type program
[08:28] <Bleed> /home/user/Desktop
[08:28] <bruenig> !find libgtk2.0
[08:28] <ubotu> Found: libgtk2.0-0, libgtk2.0-0-dbg, libgtk2.0-bin, libgtk2.0-cil, libgtk2.0-common (and 2 others)
[08:28] <r00tintheb0x> whatsuppers
[08:28] <bruenig> oh my god I found it
[08:28] <MilitantPotato> ty
[08:29] <bruenig> I don't even have ubuntu installed
[08:29] <bruenig> I am a god
[08:29] <v4m21> Hi, I have a shell script which I am running at the startup from Sessions.  Is it possible to force it to run in its own gnome-terminal ?
[08:29] <Bleed> v4m21 prefix it with gnome-terminal -x
[08:29] <v4m21> thanks.
[08:29] <Bleed> but use the direct path to the command you're using
[08:29] <Bleed> if you're using unrar or something, make sure you use the full path, like /usr/bin/unrar
[08:30] <krinns> Majorpayne yes when i try to open my file or write it opens as readonly
[08:30] <jd_> can some one help me with that problem
[08:30] <v4m21> Thank you bleed.
[08:30] <tiejaz_> E: Invalid operation libgtk2.0-0
[08:30] <MajorPayne> krinns: Type "ls -l ~".  What user owns the files, what user are you?
[08:30] <bruenig> tiejaz_, apt-get install it
[08:30] <tiejaz_> ok
[08:30] <Bleed> lol
[08:30] <Bleed> lol, lol, and lol.
[08:30] <jd_> sooooo
[08:31] <Bleed> yes
[08:31] <tiejaz_> says it's already installed
[08:31] <Bleed> tiejaz_: you need to read up on apt-get
[08:31] <Bleed> It's a godsend.
[08:31] <MajorPayne> He needs the dev packages.
[08:31] <Bleed> Yes, you need dev packages
[08:31] <Bleed> 1 sec
[08:31] <jd_> when i click on anything it pops up behind a window that i already have on the creen can some one help me get this to pop up in front of the page or window im on
[08:31] <tiejaz_> ok thanks
[08:32] <AzMoo[w] > " < MilitantPotato> grep is a word pad type program" <--- No, no it's not.
[08:32] <bruenig> sauvin, by basic I mean base, it is the base of everything, it is something you cannot do without knowing
[08:32] <krinns> well am ounser of my folder it seems like that
[08:32] <Bleed> sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[08:32] <bruenig> it is the first thing you should learn in any distro
[08:32] <Bleed> use that tiejaz_
[08:32] <tiejaz_> thanks bleed
[08:32] <krinns> majorPayne did u check the logs
[08:32] <MilitantPotato> Ah, as far as I've seen from using it
[08:32] <Bleed> tiejaz_: I use aptitude search *program* for searching
[08:32] <Bleed> I like it the most
[08:32] <MilitantPotato> it seems like it's editing ini type files
[08:33] <MilitantPotato> how do you copy files with spaces?
[08:33] <tiejaz_> so now I should be able to make the prog?
[08:33] <AzMoo[w] > MilitantPotato: no, grep is nothing like that. It's a pattern searcher.
[08:33] <Bleed> You should try it, yes
[08:33] <MajorPayne> krinns: Ahh.  I see.  I don't know.
[08:33] <MilitantPotato> ah, sorry, I know very, very little about linux.
[08:33] <tiejaz_> same here
[08:33] <tiejaz_> i'm new
[08:33] <MilitantPotato> 1st day.
[08:33] <togr> MilitantPotato, what is your question?
[08:33] <AzMoo[w] > MilitantPotato: that's ok, I was just letting you know :)
[08:33] <krinns> what?
[08:34] <gcarrillo> itll be worth it thou
[08:34] <MilitantPotato> How do i copy file names with spaces?
[08:34] <tiejaz_> don't put spaces in file names
[08:34] <togr> you want to make a copy of a file with a space in the file name?
[08:34] <tiejaz_> _
[08:34] <bruenig> MilitantPotato, you can either put quotes around the file or escape the white space
[08:34] <AzMoo[w] > MilitantPotato: put quotes around it or a \ in front of the space
[08:34] <sauvin> i don't think I have hardware acceleration enabled yet on this computer and ubuntu running KDE is ///faster/// than Fedora Core with acceleration enabled. Man, this is SCHWEET.
[08:34] <bruenig> MilitantPotato, like if it is called "File Name" you can do that in quotes or File\ Name
[08:34] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: Either escape the spaces with the '\' character like: this\ is\ a\ file or you can put the file name in "".
[08:34] <gcarrillo> hehe
[08:34] <gcarrillo> everyone knows that answer huh
[08:35] <tiejaz_> I didn't.
[08:35] <gcarrillo> :D
[08:35] <mongolai> or use tab filename completion.
[08:35] <togr> My shell does the escaping for me
[08:35] <gcarrillo> actually i probably didnt either
[08:35] <bruenig> togr, what shell do you use?
[08:35] <sauvin> Changed clients. The gnome xchat is just too limiting.
[08:35] <togr> tcsh
[08:35] <MilitantPotato> what does
[08:35] <gcarrillo> try chatzilla
[08:35] <MilitantPotato> what does linux read \'s as normally?
[08:35] <AzMoo[w] > sauvin: what did you change to?
[08:35] <defrysk> MilitantPotato, cp folder\ or\ name\ with\ spaces to /path/to otherplace/
[08:35] <krinns> hey
[08:36] <bruenig> sauvin, why didn't you use xchat?
[08:36] <krinns> when i try to change owner ship it says chown: changing ownership of `muhammad.yaseen/': Read-only file system
[08:36] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: It's an excape character.
[08:36] <defrysk> MilitantPotato, cp folder\ or\ name\ with\ spaces to /path/to/otherplace/
[08:36] <togr> defrysk, that's wrong
[08:36] <defrysk> sorry
[08:36] <MilitantPotato> ah cool
[08:36] <krinns> should i reboot my machine
[08:36] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: It treats what ever comes after that as special.
[08:36] <MilitantPotato> i got it copied :D
[08:36] <sauvin> Regular xchat now.
[08:36] <AzMoo[w] > oh right
[08:36] <MilitantPotato> I wish I could move files w/o the dev consol.
[08:36] <sauvin> The REAL version.
[08:36] <sixfour> will bitchx run on ubuntu?
[08:36] <togr> MilitantPotato, what defrysk said is wrong
[08:36] <sauvin> Why wouldn't it?
[08:36] <defrysk> MilitantPotato, ant use the tab button for autocopletion of folder or filename
[08:36] <bruenig> !info bitchx
[08:36] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1506 kB, installed size 6508 kB
[08:36] <mongolai> sixfour, yep
[08:37] <sixfour> ty
[08:37] <togr> MilitantPotato, use "nautilus"
[08:37] <MajorPayne> irssi > bitchx
[08:37] <bruenig> sixfour, anything will run in any linux distribution
[08:37] <defrysk> togr, is that so ?
[08:37] <tiejaz_> hey thanks bleed
[08:37] <tiejaz_> it runs now
[08:37] <togr> yes.  You had three arguments in the cp command line
[08:37] <tiejaz_> great help
[08:37] <togr> cp "source" to dest
[08:37] <enzo_sann> e_sann
[08:37] <togr> the "to" is spurious
[08:37] <MilitantPotato> nautilus is...?
[08:37] <defrysk> togr, yes my mistake
[08:37] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: Press Places then Home.
[08:37] <togr> MilitantPotato, a graphical directory browser
[08:38] <mlg> tess
[08:38] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: It's kinda like Windows Explorer.
[08:38] <defrysk> MilitantPotato, 'cp folder\ or\ name\ with\ spaces /path/to/otherplace/' is the correct syntax
[08:38] <MilitantPotato> yea that just gives me errors.
[08:38] <defrysk> without the '
[08:39] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: What errors?
[08:39] <MilitantPotato> Mount errors half the time
[08:39] <MilitantPotato> or really vague Unable to write to disk
[08:39] <defrysk> ahwell time for a coffee
[08:39] <MilitantPotato> but I made it fat32 so i could write to it
[08:39] <togr> MilitantPotato, does it bring up a window?
[08:39] <MilitantPotato> yea, small error window
[08:39] <krinns> whats up any idea
[08:40] <togr> and only the errors?
[08:40] <mlg> test
[08:40] <togr> mlg, we see you
[08:40] <MilitantPotato> yea togr
[08:40] <MajorPayne> !test
[08:40] <ubotu> failed
[08:41] <hexstar> whatcha testing?
[08:41] <togr> MilitantPotato, type "df -h" (without the quotes) in a shell
[08:41] <hexstar> @test
[08:41] <hexstar> !test
[08:41] <kidbuntu> can someone help me with my mouse sensitivity problem
[08:41] <MilitantPotato> sell?
[08:41] <MilitantPotato> shell?
[08:41] <hexstar> !sell
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <togr> MilitantPotato, do you have a "Terminal" window somewhere?
[08:41] <MilitantPotato> yea
[08:41] <togr> ok, the program you're talking to in that window is called a shell
[08:42] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: The 'shell' runs in the "Terminal Emulator".
[08:42] <hexstar> you can also do ctrl+alt+fx to get real terminals
[08:42] <MilitantPotato> ah ok
[08:42] <togr> you type commands to it, and it runs the commands for you and echoes the results back
[08:42] <togr> MilitantPotato, *don't* try what hexstar just told you.  Not yet
[08:43] <MilitantPotato> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30412/
[08:43] <krinns> majorPayne
[08:43] <krinns> any idea
[08:43] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: If you do happen to try what hexstar told you make sure you know to use Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back.
[08:43] <MajorPayne> krinns: No.  Sorry.
[08:43] <krinns> my machine was abnormal rebooted
[08:43] <MilitantPotato> ok
[08:44] <MilitantPotato> I'll stay away from the expert stuff for the next few weeks :)
[08:44] <togr> MajorPayne, shouldn't that be 'alt+F7'?
[08:44] <sauvin> hrm. I'm not seeing where to make channel and server tabs list along the bottom IN tabs, rather than in a tree view, in xhcat.
[08:44] <MajorPayne> togr: The Ctrl does not effect things.
[08:44] <togr> ok
[08:44] <defrysk> MilitantPotato, you are truly new with this ;)
[08:44] <MajorPayne> togr: I say the Ctrl since you have to use it to get there in the first place anyway.
[08:44] <hexstar> majorpayne: really? I thought you had to do ctrl :P
[08:44] <sauvin> Oh. Never mind. It's in a "layout" thingie.
[08:44] <MilitantPotato> Very, very now.
[08:44] <MilitantPotato> new.
[08:44] <MilitantPotato> the lingo is killing me
[08:45] <MajorPayne> hexstar: Nope.  Once you are there you can just use alt to move around.
[08:45] <togr> MilitantPotato, you appear to have plenty of space on your filesystems
[08:45] <hexstar> ah cool
[08:45] <MilitantPotato> yea
[08:45] <MajorPayne> But the Ctrl does not hurt anything.
[08:45] <hexstar> MajorPayne: ok
[08:45] <defrysk> MilitantPotato, when using a terminal the <tab> button is your friend for autocompletion
[08:45] <MilitantPotato> I cleared the 250gigger incase the resizing of partitions crashed my HD
[08:45] <hexstar> MilitantPotato: and you can press up to go to your previous commands
[08:45] <togr> and yet you get errors about "unable to write file" when you try to start nautilus?
[08:46] <MilitantPotato> i noticed that, and it stores what you last typed, even if it wasn't run
[08:46] <MilitantPotato> unlike the dos version
[08:46] <togr> people, if we can get MilitantPotato to run nautilus, s/he'll be much happier
[08:46] <defrysk> MilitantPotato, yes the terminal has many powers
[08:46] <MilitantPotato> he*
[08:46] <hexstar> DOS is absolutely weak when compared to the *nix terminal. Anything you want done can be done on the terminal :D
[08:46] <krinns> hey how i check my 3ware hardware raid controller status
[08:47] <MajorPayne> hexstar: Not "anything".  You can't look at pictures in the termanal.
[08:47] <hexstar> MajorPayne: lol true
[08:47] <togr> MilitantPotato, try typing "nautilus" to the shell
[08:47] <hexstar> anything non gui
[08:47] <MilitantPotato> can I run two shells safely?
[08:47] <togr> as many as you like
[08:47] <hexstar> yes tyou can
[08:48] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: You can run as much shells as you have ram to.
[08:48] <hexstar> until you max out your ram and vm...:P
[08:48] <togr> ctrl-shift-t will give you more tabs with independent shells
[08:48] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: But that would be a lot of shells.
[08:48] <defrysk> shells kitchen
[08:48] <togr> ctrl-shift-n gives you a new terminal window
[08:48] <MilitantPotato> ah nice shortcut
[08:49] <MilitantPotato> So is there any reliable way to get Linux to work with NTFS?
[08:49] <hexstar> not yet militantpotato
[08:49] <MilitantPotato> Ok, one quick question
[08:49] <hexstar> you can do read ok but rw is not stable yet
[08:50] <hexstar> Militantpotato: as to why, m$ released the details on their previous filesystems but has kept the inner workings of the ntfs filesystem internal and thus adding full ntfs support is difficult to do reliably
[08:51] <MilitantPotato> well, before NTFS they didn't have much that improved over DOS
[08:51] <hexstar> of course with the nt and 2k source leaks it should be faily easy to do... :P
[08:51] <hexstar> majorpayne: it can, with 3rd party utilities
[08:51] <togr> hexstar, please tell
[08:51] <MajorPayne> hexstar: I tried to use it once.  It's only ext2 and it was buggy.
[08:51] <MilitantPotato> GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin
[08:52] <MilitantPotato> Is this shock wave flash?
[08:52] <MajorPayne> But maybe it improved.
[08:52] <toogodoo> how ar eyou guys talkin now? windows usin mirc or linux usin xchat???
[08:52] <hexstar> http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs
[08:52] <MajorPayne> toogodoo: irssi on Linux.
[08:52] <MajorPayne> toogodoo: But you can use X-Chat on Windows also.
[08:52] <hexstar> there's so many utilities that do that: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=mount+ext3+windows&btnG=Search ...ufs is the real hard one
[08:53] <toogodoo> how do ya find out about all this stuff...this is harder than i thought :-(
[08:53] <togr> how would MilitantPotato go about getting a nautilus that runs?
[08:53] <hexstar> toogodoo: google :)
[08:53] <mongolai> toogodoo, a little bit at a time. Knowledge builds up ;)
[08:53] <MilitantPotato> It works fine sometimes, sometimes
[08:53] <MajorPayne> Nautilus doesn't run.
[08:54] <togr> no?
[08:54] <hexstar> kde is better then gnome anyways :P
[08:54] <togr> I'm trying to help, not to start religious wars
[08:54] <swaj> about 7 years myself :/
[08:54] <swaj> and the kde vs. gnome argument gets old
[08:54] <tsocks> hexstar: sure ! :)
[08:55] <MajorPayne> togr: I meant to say, "Nautilus doesn't run?".
[08:55] <hexstar> with kde, at least the file manager works :P
[08:55] <hexstar> lol
[08:55] <MilitantPotato> I cant get kde to run
[08:55] <togr> MajorPayne, that's what MilitantPotato indicated above
[08:55] <hexstar> o_O
[08:55] <mongolai> it's more of a QT vs. GTK argument anyway
[08:55] <anurag_mishra> I installed realplayer from their website by the .bin file. How can I uninstall it?
[08:55] <MilitantPotato> Naut doesn't let me copy, move or much else between drives
[08:55] <togr> The whole "how to move files with spaces in the name" problem disappears then
[08:55] <MilitantPotato> I get mount errors, or it just says it failed
[08:56] <hexstar> militantpotato: what format is the drive?
[08:56] <togr> at least until MilitantPotato gains enough experience to appreciate the usefulness of the shell
[08:56] <MajorPayne> MilitantPotato: I don't think that is a problem with Nautilus.  I think that is a problem with the mounting.
[08:56] <toogodoo> isnt there a program that looks just like windows explorer? i thought that replaced that kde gnome crap...do i gotta have it too???
[08:56] <tsocks> anurag_mishra: there's no info in the site ?
[08:56] <hexstar> toogodoo: linspire
[08:56] <anurag_mishra> tsocks: I dont think so
[08:56] <toogodoo> eplore2fs
[08:56] <hexstar> that's not for *nix
[08:57] <toogodoo> it says it is
[08:57] <MajorPayne> toogodoo: "It's spelled Linux but prounounced Not Windows".
[08:57] <hexstar> explore2fs  	1.07  	Binary  	.zip  	Windows  	  explore2fs-1.07.zip
[08:57] <hexstar> There's no linux binary
[08:57] <togr> who is toogodoo, and why does it smell somewhat trolly?
[08:57] <hexstar> you might be able to compile it on linux but why would you lol? Linux can access those formats natively
[08:58] <tsocks> anurag_mishra: what about "./file.bin --help" ?... something like the nvidia propietary driver...
[08:58] <swaj> toogodoo, if you'd rather have a "windows" experience, why not run windows... you know instead of that kde/gnome "crap" :)
[08:58] <carter> Why do people switch to Linux and then bitch when they can't get everything exactly the same?
[08:58] <carter> It makes zero sense
[08:58] <hexstar> linspire is the ugly windows + linux creation
[08:58] <jerbull88> Enter text here...
[08:58] <MajorPayne> carter: When I have to use Windows (at work) I complain because I can't get it exactly the same as Linux :-P
[08:58] <mongolai> carter, because they don't know what to expect
[08:58] <anurag_mishra> tsocks: lemme try
[08:58] <sero> hello
[08:59] <saucisson> CarinArr: yep these guys are boring
[08:59] <tsocks> anurag_mishra: ok, just tell me ...
[08:59] <carter> I remember customizing my Windows to act like Linux
[08:59] <MajorPayne> !hi | sero
[08:59] <ubotu> sero: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:59] <togr> MajorPayne, you use cygwin, I suppose?
[08:59] <carter> My windows is OpenOffice, Firefox, Gaim...
[08:59] <MilitantPotato> One question
[08:59] <MajorPayne> togr: Not the same :-(
[08:59] <MajorPayne> togr: But I do.
[08:59] <FreakyTallKid> howdy
[08:59] <MilitantPotato> when I replace my mobo/cpu/ram, will I need to re-install ubuntu?
[08:59] <hexstar> I remember those trojans on my windows box...and more viruses...and even more...and then I switched
[08:59] <anurag_mishra> tsocks: I provides no argument for uninstall
[08:59] <marx2k> Does anyone happen to have any advice for nvidia overscanning issues on a 1080p hdtv via DVI-HDMI?
[08:59] <carter> I remember it slowing to a crawl under the weight of spywear
[09:00] <jerbull88> militant, no
[09:00] <hexstar> militantpotato: with linux you shouldn't have to
[09:00] <MilitantPotato> Ah that's great.
[09:00] <swaj> I remember trying out Windows Vista a couple weeks ago and going... hmm.... nah Beryl still wins :P
[09:00] <marx2k> !overscan
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about overscan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <toogodoo> i dont like windows but i spent 25 yrs in the old school computer biz and dont want to go back to command/terminal commands etc. i like nice guis and all i wanna do is email, surf, newsgroups, and security...so i dont need all this confounded gobbledegook, i want a user version not a developer ver... i despise windows but it was the only game in town way back when
[09:00] <MajorPayne> Ahh, more important with Ubuntu you shouldnt have to.
[09:00] <carter> I want to try Beryl
[09:00] <MilitantPotato> I want a better GUI, but my last attempt only destroyed my install
[09:00] <hexstar> that's the nice thing about linux, the ekrnel has all the drivers built in...so that means when you add a device there's no long searching for devices...it just works, and when you remove critical parts like a mobo and replace it the kernel can handle that too because it has all the drivers already and is built to handle such changes without error
[09:01] <anurag_mishra>  tsocks: I provides no argument for uninstall
[09:01] <swaj> toogodoo, you haven't tried Ubuntu have you?
[09:01] <hexstar> why is toogodoo in here?
[09:01] <hexstar> lol
[09:01] <marx2k> toogodoo, typically Ubuntu is what you describe unless you want to get your hands dirty and deal with some serious options in any of your programs
[09:01] <hexstar> ubuntu is like the free version of mac os x :)
[09:01] <FreakyTallKid> anurag_mishara: im with tsocks, im completely new to Ubuntu but really want to convert
[09:01] <carter> I was typing out a tutorial for Windows the other day, and I remember thinking "damn, I wish I could just give them commandlines for this shit"
[09:01] <toogodoo> i have tried ubuntu 5 times and numerous live sessions with it
[09:01] <swaj> toogodoo, you really could successfully run an Ubuntu install without ever touching the console
[09:01] <carter> instead of going, now click on the box in the upper left corner
[09:02] <MilitantPotato> Is there a quick and easy way to install a "fancier" gui?
[09:02] <hexstar> I'd die without the console :D
[09:02] <MajorPayne> hexstar: I hate Mac OS X.  Mac OS X is like the crappy version of Ubuntu.
[09:02] <tsocks> anurag_mishra: hmm... have you tried looking on the website ?
[09:02] <vecina> help me  get one less customer for windows - my girlfriend. She only wants to be able to watch her thai movies at www.thaitv.tv  But it only seems to work at all under windows
[09:02] <togr> hexstar, you would, I would, but newbies appreciate learning the console in small steps
[09:02] <MajorPayne> haxorjoe: I am running Ubuntu on my MacBook :-P
[09:02] <MajorPayne> hexstar: ^^
[09:02] <marx2k> !modelines
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modelines - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <toogodoo> the partitioner is sick...but everybody dares me to use partitin magiv which i know very well
[09:02] <carter> vecina, give me a moment to work on it
[09:02] <vecina> carter: Much appreciated
[09:02] <jerbull88> militant, have you tried any new themes or checked out beryl
[09:02] <anurag_mishra> tsocks: they do provide some forum etc, thought that some one wud know here. Anyways, thanks for help
[09:03] <MilitantPotato> No, beryl looks great though
[09:03] <hexstar> I plan to install ubuntu on my mac mini since it's intel, ubuntu supports efi now right? :D
[09:03] <hexstar> meaning it should just boot off the cd fine
[09:03] <MilitantPotato> I just fail miserably at installing them
[09:03] <MilitantPotato> I tried cazis? or w/e
[09:03] <jerbull88> beryl can really give u a fancier gui
[09:03] <swaj> MilitantPotato, give beryl a try, installation on Ubuntu is very easy.  Just make sure you have a graphics card that has direct rendering ;)
[09:03] <MajorPayne> hexstar: I had no problem with my MacBook (intel).
[09:03] <SoulPropagation> So let's say I run ddrescue on an old, deteriorating hard disk. When it's done, should I run it again with the same logfile?
[09:03] <hexstar> majorpayne: great :D
[09:03] <MilitantPotato> I have a 1950xt
[09:03] <carter> vecina, give me the link to a tv program that doesn't require log-in
[09:03] <carter> my thai is non-existant
[09:03] <jerbull88> militant, yea u def need a good video card and cpu
[09:04] <swaj> MilitantPotato, as long as you have the ATI drivers loaded, you should be good to go
[09:04] <MilitantPotato> i do
[09:04] <FreakyTallKid> Sorry to interupt all but I'm in need of a little bit of help. I know next to nothing about the Linux console and could really use a hand with installing a package containing Binaries e.g. Hamachi
[09:04] <hexstar> I like ubuntu, it's easy to use yet you can still get your hands very dirty at any time :D ...the perfect mix of stable good workings out of the box and the ability to geek out :D
[09:04] <anbu> Installed ubuntu yday and was working fine and after some update it restarted with message kernel panic
[09:04] <MilitantPotato> my CPU is decent, a 3800X2 at 2.65ghz
[09:04] <vecina> carter: crud, thats not possible... if it helps, the thing only seems to run in IE at all. not firefox
[09:04] <jerbull88> freaky, i think automatix will install hamachi
[09:04] <hexstar> amd is going bankrupt
[09:04] <carter> can you tell me what filetype the movies are?
[09:04] <FreakyTallKid> jerbull88: thanks
[09:04] <varun0> hexstar: I beg to differ :-)
[09:05] <MilitantPotato> AMD should catch up with their quad cores
[09:05] <MajorPayne> !automatix | jerbull88
[09:05] <ubotu> jerbull88: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:05] <vecina> carter: They're streaming
[09:05] <MilitantPotato> Intel made a huge mistake by putting two dual cores in one die
[09:05] <carter> but are they realplayer?
[09:05] <vecina> carter: otherwise i dunnjo. she's being dismissive
[09:05] <MilitantPotato> they use the FSB to communicate
[09:05] <jerbull88> nevermind...
[09:05] <vecina> carter: No, "media 10" she says
[09:05] <hexstar> Amd is still on 65 and intel is on 45....they haven't even gotten their quads out...and you think they'll survive??? yeah right lol
[09:05] <varun0> MilitantPotato: yea.....they scale really, really badly
[09:05] <vecina> carter Windows media 10
[09:05] <carter> Damn vecina
[09:05] <MilitantPotato> Soooo
[09:05] <carter> let's see if we can do this
[09:05] <varun0> nextstate: Intel isn't on 45
[09:05] <MilitantPotato> Who wants to help me with beryl
[09:05] <varun0> er I mean hexstar
[09:05] <kraut> moin
[09:05] <hexstar> they are working on it and amd is working on 65
[09:06] <MilitantPotato> 45nm will be out mid 2008
[09:06] <hexstar> right
[09:06] <varun0> hexstar: AMD has 65 nm and in the market. Intel hasn't released 45 nm yet
[09:06] <jerbull88> militant, its real easy to install thru  synaptic
[09:06] <carter> Does anyone know if automatix2 includes the windows plug-ins?
[09:06] <hexstar> but amd hasn't even started on 45 yet, they're still on the quad
[09:06] <marx2k> windows plug ins?
[09:06] <MajorPayne> !automatix | carter
[09:06] <ubotu> carter: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:06] <jerbull88> automatix is bad, but it contains several
[09:07] <carter> I love automatix
[09:07] <varun0> hexstar: wrong. they are two separate processes. they will probably make a 45nm shrink of K10
[09:07] <carter> It works like a charm for me
[09:07] <MajorPayne> !worksforme | carter
[09:07] <ubotu> carter: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:07] <hexstar> maybe varun0, we'lll just have to wait and see...in their current state they're in financial troubles and struggling to catch up to intel...
[09:07] <hexstar> I've always liked intel myself...they never fail :D
[09:07] <carter> that bot is getting on my nerves
[09:07] <vecina> lol
[09:08] <varun0> hexstar: the processor market is cyclical
[09:08] <carter> ubotu!*@* added to ignore list.
[09:08] <togr> carter, that is because you don't want to listen
[09:08] <carter> ^_^
[09:08] <varun0> hexstar: haha.........yea Netburst was awesome. Didn't fail at all
[09:08] <togr> it is giving you good advice
[09:08] <bradford> hi guys just dumped vista and loaded ubuntu i need to know how to right code to ext/ppp i am logined as admin but cannot login as root from load page
[09:08] <hexstar> well, Intel can bounce back quickly
[09:08] <anbu> when I start in recovery mode "SMP alternative: switching to UP code"
[09:08] <hexstar> more quickly then amd :P
[09:08] <carter> Togr, I have excellent stability
[09:08] <varun0> hexstar: and so will AMD :-) they leapfrog each other
[09:08] <SoulPropagation> Can anyone tell me what to do after I finish runnning ddrescue on an old hard drive?
[09:08] <bradford> write i mean
[09:09] <hexstar> varun0: LIES! :P
[09:09] <varun0> hexstar: have you followed stock prices recently?
[09:09] <jerbull88> bradford, you have to set the root password first
[09:09] <hexstar> I don't do stock
[09:09] <hexstar> lol
[09:09] <bradford> i did root/ password
[09:09] <bradford> but i cannot login from
[09:09] <hexstar> I'd rather stick my money in a bank and get a garunteed interest rate
[09:09] <bradford> page that is given to me
[09:09] <bradford> after boot
[09:09] <Sidlet> I personally think stock prices reflect what the corp's are doing vs what actual end users are doing. *shrug* call me stupid tho, thats what i think.
[09:09] <varun0> hexstar: which barely beats inflation :-)
[09:09] <togr> carter, very well, but will your way of doing it work for anyone else?  Even one as inexperienced as MilitantPotato?  Will you support that approach for them?
[09:09] <hexstar> varun0: at least it's stable :)
[09:10] <varun0> Sidlet: hexstar was talking about financial troubles, that's why I was quoting stock prices
[09:10] <MajorPayne> togr: Let alone upgrades.
[09:10] <varun0> hexstar: oh AMD is very stable..........they aren't going anywhere
[09:10] <togr> MajorPayne, exactly
[09:10] <bradford> i get mesg cannot login as root from here
[09:10] <Sidlet> varun0, I was tying the conversation in with your Intel vs AMD conversation :)
[09:10] <hexstar> varun0: they're going somewhere alright, either up or down and it all depends on their next move
[09:10] <jerbull88> bradford, thats really odd...have u tried logging in as ur admin and then setting root password with the gui
[09:11] <varun0> hexstar: you forget, they have ATi, as well. And ATi has GPUs in all major consoles, among other things
[09:11] <bradford> yes i can do from the optional boot but all in command promt and i don't know codes enough to do from there i just need to add a script to ppp for my usb modem
[09:11] <hexstar> varun0: Plus when's the last time you saw a amd ad? Intel has such a huge ad budget because so many computers use their processors that they can't help but get a big market share. Dell for a short period used AMD processors but then promptly pulled out as AMD lagged behind as usual :P
[09:11] <vecina> carter: It says i need a plugin. It cant find the plugin though.
[09:11] <carter> vecina, still looking
[09:12] <carter> yeah, it's going to tell you that
[09:12] <SoulPropagation> hexstar: Dell still uses AMD. I just helped someone buy one
[09:12] <hexstar> varun0: that's a good point, that could be a good fallback
[09:12] <Sidlet> such as the company A comes out with XYZ processor, then company b comes out with one that does XYZ and brews coffee, what reflects that is what corporations have already signed on to use vs what end users make up. Dont get me wrong there is an end user market, but what your seeing flux in stock is when Conglom-O inc. decides to purchase the next 5 million pc's.
[09:12] <vecina> carter: Apparantly thailand doesnt care much about free software
[09:12] <carter> Apparently not
[09:12] <bradford> after boot i get user and pass i can use mine but root will not work? is the a shell app in the command section
[09:12] <varun0> hexstar: I saw an AMD ad in the wall street journal a couple of weeks ago :-)
[09:12] <hexstar> varun0: oh :P
[09:13] <varun0> hexstar: and Dell still sells AMD........don't know where you get your info from :-)
[09:13] <MilitantPotato> I can't run beryl
[09:13] <bradford> or a way to write script to folder from command prompt
[09:13] <hexstar> varun0: I don't see any amd machines
[09:13] <carter> vecina, since everyone here hate automatix, let me look under synaptic for what you need
[09:13] <MilitantPotato> it doesn't support my video card, peachy.
[09:13] <vecina> carter: so what plugin do i need to find?
[09:13] <bliss> hi
[09:13] <carter> I'm looking, h/o
[09:13] <jerbull88> bradford, im sort of unclear on what ur talking about
[09:13] <vecina> oh ok
[09:13] <illriginal> Guys... I need to mount my digital camera... can someone help me?
[09:13] <hexstar> varun0: link?
[09:14] <carter> what media player do you use?
[09:14] <togr> bradford, you're not making sense
[09:14] <vecina> carter: its trying to run mplayer
[09:14] <jerbull88> brad, do u need to edit a file
[09:14] <bliss> whats the  command to look at network setup is it ifconfig?
[09:14] <Scotty> I was playing around with screen resolutions and stuff the other day and I restarted last night and I was in a really low resolution. So I went into settings and tried to make it bigger, only to find out that it wouldn't get any higher. So I thought maybe screens were screwed up since I was playing with dual screens the other day, too. Anyway, I tried switching my primary to my secondary and vice-versa so I could make the resolution higher, but now w
[09:14] <Scotty> hen I try to boot in Kubuntu, I get the loading screen, and then some text comes up but goes away before I can read it, and then it goes back to the loading screen for 30 seconds or so and then a black screen comes up with a blinking underscore.
[09:14] <togr> bradford, what are you trying to do?
[09:14] <vecina> carter: which seems to be the best for this IMHO
[09:14] <Scotty> Is there anyway to restore the defaults?
[09:14] <carter> Thx vecina
[09:14] <bradford> i use a usb sprint wireless pcmcia card for net
[09:14] <illriginal> Can someone help me mount my Digital Camera via USB?
[09:14] <varun0> hexstar: http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DNDWLB2&s=dhs&sm=2 to start with
[09:15] <SoulPropagation> Scotty: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I think
[09:15] <varun0> hexstar: http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspndt_53x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
[09:15] <illriginal> Can someone help me mount my Digital Camera via USB?
[09:15] <bliss> DBO: how;s the coffee?
[09:15] <Scotty> SoulPropagation, in the recovery console I type that?
[09:15] <varun0> hexstar: if you actually go to the website, you might see some :-)
[09:15] <MilitantPotato> Mine does what scotty is saying every install
[09:15] <MilitantPotato> or I get a distorted blue screen
[09:15] <SoulPropagation> Scotty: Any console, yeah
[09:15] <bradford> have to add #connection script to ppp/peers/sprint_EVDO
[09:15] <hexstar> varun0: yeah, there are *some* but intel is dominant, there was I period when dell had chosen amd as their dominant processor
[09:15] <bradford> and vi sprint-evdo Scritp
[09:15] <jerbull88> brad, gedit command
[09:15] <MilitantPotato> Has anyone gotten beryl to work on newer ATI's?
[09:16] <hexstar> *a
[09:16] <varun0> hexstar: nope. never happened
[09:16] <bradford> cannot save from notepad to the folder i don't have permission
[09:16] <varun0> hexstar: Intel was always the dominant. They just started adding AMD. Do some research. I'm off to bed. Peace
[09:16] <hexstar> varun0: I know there was....
[09:16] <bradford> like i said i just dumped formated vista for last time and got this
[09:16] <jerbull88> brad sudo gedit (file ext)
[09:16] <bradford> yes will not let me save
[09:17] <MilitantPotato> did you do sudo first?
[09:17] <bradford> to sudo vi /etc/ppp/peers/Sprint_EVDO
[09:17] <togr> bradford,  what jerbull88 said or save somewhere else and do 'sudo mv file /etc/ppp/...'
[09:17] <bliss> getting no such comand when i try ifconfig?
[09:17] <bradford> k will try thanks
[09:17] <MajorPayne> bliss: "sudo ifconfig"
[09:17] <kmindi|efirc> doch ich bin da
[09:17] <titus> ich auch
[09:17] <bradford> sudo mv thank i put path of file ?
[09:17] <carter> vecina, I can't find it
[09:17] <hexstar> varun0: but whatever that doesn't matter, intel is still dominant on the dell site and thus gets more ad exposure because of the intel inside logo....and what about those incorrect benchmarks amd had up?
[09:18] <vecina> carter: oh well... thanks
[09:18] <titus> kmindi|efirc: wechseln
[09:18] <jerbull88> sudo gedit (file ext)
[09:18] <illriginal> Can someone help me mount my Digital Camera via USB?
[09:18] <MilitantPotato> Intel has done the same hexstar
[09:18] <SoulPropagation> illriginal: Is it MSC?
[09:18] <MajorPayne> illriginal: Did you try plugging it in?
[09:18] <jon03> guys i need help i dont know or why more than one x server tries to run how can i fix it ?
[09:18] <bradford> thanks you both so much trying now
[09:18] <illriginal> I plug in my camera... and it won't let me access it... I need permission to access it.
[09:18] <hexstar> millitantpotato: I don't believe so
[09:19] <MilitantPotato> nah they did
[09:19] <SoulPropagation> illriginal: sudo
[09:19] <MilitantPotato> AMD made a big fuss about it, then AMD did it a few months later
[09:19] <bliss> MajorPayne: thanks
[09:19] <illriginal> sudo?... right?
[09:19] <jerbull88> illriginal, have you trie loging in as root and giving other users permission
[09:19] <Scotty> be right back, gonna go try that out
[09:19] <Scotty> thanks
[09:20] <MajorPayne> illriginal: Try "sudo chown youruser:yourgroup  /path/to/mount/point"
[09:20] <hexstar> millitantpotato: that actually does ring a bell oddly
[09:20] <MajorPayne> illriginal: "chown -r" sorry.  You need to add the -r.
[09:20] <illriginal> Major.. there is no mount point for my camera.
[09:21] <MajorPayne> illriginal: It has to have a mount point if it is mounted.  Did you check in /media or /mnt?
[09:21] <illriginal> when I plug it... I get a pop up window of "My Computer" and There's a USB icon... I click it.. and it says there's probably no media in it.
[09:21] <carter> illriginal, is there a setting on your camera to have it act as a harddrive or usb drive?
[09:21] <rryan> hmm.. so is it safe to dist-upgrade to 7.04 from 6.10 yet ?
[09:21] <illriginal> carter no...
[09:22] <MajorPayne> rryan: 7.04 was out in April.  I would say yes.
[09:22] <carter> illriginal, are you sure?  mine has one buried in the sub-menus of the setting menu
[09:22] <MilitantPotato> no-one answered about using beryl on newer ATI's
[09:22] <MilitantPotato> Can it be done?
[09:22] <hexstar> you know what fine, so they both do marketing schemes to make each other look fine...lol fine...but the fact is that intel always ends up on top :P :)
[09:22] <SoulPropagation> MilitantPotato: check the wiki for beryl.
[09:23] <rryan> when I dist-upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10  I had issues that didn't get fixed until i did a fresh install of 6.10..    just wondering
[09:23] <SoulPropagation> hexstar: for a while AMD had the best procs, besides they've both been in business for ... ... er I dunno, a long time, I don't think they're leaving any time soon and if they are it's a merger.
[09:23] <hexstar> militantpotato:  What are the system requirements for Beryl?
[09:23] <hexstar>     Beryl runs acceptably well on a GeForce 3/i855/Radeon 7500, 256MB of RAM, and a 1.2GHz processor. It also works best with Xorg 7.1 and requires a recent version of Mesa.
[09:23] <rryan> MajorPayne : thanks
[09:24] <hexstar> soul: yes amd was on top for a while...but intel is now on top....I guess I just have a slant towards intel since that's what I grew up with while in reality it is indeed true that the market will keep switching between the two as each comes out with newer better technology
[09:24] <MilitantPotato> Unsupported
[09:24] <MilitantPotato>     * X1300 / R515 based cards.
[09:24] <MilitantPotato>     * X1600 / R530 based cards.
[09:24] <MilitantPotato>     * X1800 / R520 based cards.
[09:24] <MilitantPotato>     * X1900 / R580 based cards.
[09:24] <MilitantPotato> I'm a R580
[09:24] <hexstar> where di you find that?
[09:24] <MajorPayne> rryan: Ahh.  Sorry.  I can't tell you how your upgrade will go.  IT went fine for me (That doesn't mean it will for you).
[09:24] <MajorPayne> !paste | MilitantPotato
[09:24] <ubotu> MilitantPotato: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:24] <MilitantPotato> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon
[09:24] <rryan> MajorPayne : *nod* thanks... just making sure there weren't any glaring known issues
[09:24] <hexstar> oh
[09:25] <bradford> thanks agian for your help i guess i will have to do a lot of study it will not let me move to the file either don't have permission?
[09:25] <illriginal> the camera is NOT mounted.
[09:25] <illriginal> I cannot MOUNT the camera.
[09:25] <MajorPayne> rryan: Just make sure you back up any data.
[09:25] <bradford> thanks again
[09:25] <MilitantPotato> cya brad, good luck :)
[09:25] <hexstar> illriginal: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/USB-Digital-Camera-HOWTO.html
[09:25] <carter> what camera is it?
[09:25] <illriginal> been there
[09:25] <illriginal> done that.
[09:25] <illriginal> sorry hexstar.
[09:26] <hexstar> oh :P
[09:26] <jerbull88> haaha
[09:26] <hexstar> rats lol
[09:26] <SoulPropagation> Is there a way to run Windows in Ubuntu Parallels-style with a free ($0 or FOSS) setup? With a shared desktop and such
[09:26] <hexstar> foiled again :P
[09:26] <carter> illriginal, what camera is it?
[09:26] <rryan> MajorPayne : yea, will do ..
[09:26] <MajorPayne> SoulPropagation: I heard VM Ware works well.
[09:26] <SoulPropagation> also, can y'all please tab-complete my name if you can so it'll highlight for me? Thanksomuch:D
[09:26] <illriginal> the digital camera would let me see my pics through amarok... but for some reason now amarok doesn't let me see the pics.
[09:26] <hexstar> soul:vmware player? if you can find a already made vmware windows imagew
[09:26] <illriginal> carter it's a no name brand.
[09:26] <magnetron> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo  SoulPropagation
[09:26] <carter> ah, that's a bad sign illriginal
[09:27] <hexstar> no name...:P
[09:27] <SoulPropagation> magnetron: think that applies to Vista too?
[09:27] <illriginal> carter not when amarok was letting me see my pics.
[09:27] <carter> illriginal, have you tried F-stop?
[09:27] <illriginal> can someone tell me how to be "owner" of my own damn PC...
[09:27] <illriginal> so that I can simply change permissions
[09:27] <hexstar> what do you mean, become root?
[09:27] <illriginal> and mount my camera.
[09:27] <illriginal> yes.
[09:27] <carter> sudo man
[09:27] <MajorPayne> illriginal: use sudo
[09:27] <carter> sudo
[09:27] <jerbull88> illriginal login as root
[09:27] <scotty> To whoever gave me the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg advice, you are a God and I owe you my life. I am no longer forced to use XP.
[09:27] <hexstar> in terminal you can do "su root"
[09:27] <illriginal> :\
[09:27] <SoulPropagation> also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization magnetron
[09:27] <illriginal> su root?
[09:27] <illriginal> brb
[09:27] <hexstar> not recommended though
[09:27] <illriginal> screw that.
[09:27] <illriginal> brb
[09:27] <PhysicX> * CPUFreq Utilities: Setting ondemand CPUFreq governor...               [fail] 
[09:27] <PhysicX>  whats wrong?
[09:27] <MajorPayne> You can't su root unless you set the root password.
[09:28] <magnetron> SoulPropagation: i think microsoft charge extra for letting you use Vista in a VM
[09:28] <illriginal> see
[09:28] <illriginal> now it works
[09:28] <MajorPayne> Try "sudo -i".  That will give you a root like console.
[09:28] <bullgard4> English help wanted: Right-click on a Gnome panel opens a context menu having an entry 'Add to Panel'. Selecting 'Add to Panel' opens a dialog with a 'Custom Applications Launcher' button. Pressing this button will open a dialog. What is the name of this dialog? Make a Launcher?
[09:28] <jerbull88> major, thats real easy tho
[09:28] <illriginal> how can i have perma root
[09:28] <orbisvicis> !et
[09:28] <carter> illriginal, I wouldn't try that
[09:28] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[09:28] <illriginal> i don't care if it's dangerous
[09:28] <hexstar> magnetron: yeah those dumb .... changed the license to say it was ok to do vm with vista and then changed it back to disallow it...wtf!
[09:28] <illriginal> people have to go through 2 different passwords just to log onto my machine :P
[09:28] <carter> illriginal, you'll just be back here asking for help to fix it later
[09:28] <illriginal> carter, if i restart my pc
[09:28] <carter> illriginal, I haven't enabled my root
[09:28] <hexstar> illriginal: don't run as root for long periods of time, not good security
[09:29] <toresbe> hexstar: Are you the same Hex Star as is on the cctalk mailing list?
[09:29] <MajorPayne> jerbull88: IMHO it's better to use sudo -i than set the root password.  But only use sudo -i if you really have to.  Just sudo should work fine.
[09:29] <rryan> if you want to temporarily become root for as long as your shell is open, you can type 'sudo bash'
[09:29] <hexstar> toresbe: maybe, why?
[09:29] <illriginal> im gonna have to retype su root evertime
[09:29] <MajorPayne> rryan: sudo -i
[09:29] <carter> no, don't use sudo
[09:29] <hexstar> illriginal: yes
[09:29] <carter> sorry su
[09:29] <FruitieX> Yes it's possible to su root access with sudo su
[09:29] <Slart> bullgard4: "Create Launcher" on my feisty 64bit
[09:29] <rryan> MajorPayne : yea that works :)
[09:29] <magnetron> !noroot | jerbull88
[09:29] <ubotu> jerbull88: Regardless of your choice: Please do not advise against user security policy and create a root password, please see !rootsudo
[09:29] <toresbe> hexstar: I was just curious. I'm on the list myself.
[09:29] <MilitantPotato> ok people
[09:29] <illriginal> =\ just to look at my own pics and transfer them to my own machine?
[09:29] <FruitieX> so, running su as root :}
[09:29] <illriginal> bleh.
[09:29] <hexstar> oh ok
[09:30] <MilitantPotato> been up 38 hours straight, time for some sleep
[09:30] <hexstar> yeah I am
[09:30] <nox-Hand> Anyone know of a CD ripper?
[09:30] <magnetron> !noroot | FruitieX
[09:30] <ubotu> FruitieX: Regardless of your choice: Please do not advise against user security policy and create a root password, please see !rootsudo
[09:30] <bullgard4> Slart: Thank you.
[09:30] <jerbull88> ubotu, what a watch dog
[09:30] <MilitantPotato> Night
[09:30] <hexstar> er actually remember they banned me toresbe?
[09:30] <hexstar> because of that russian hosting debate... :(
[09:30] <FruitieX> whoopsie :] 
[09:31] <toresbe> Ah yes.
[09:31] <hexstar> yeah...got everyone upset...yikes!
[09:31] <magnetron> nox-Hand: sound juicer, which is bundled with ubuntu, can rip cd:s
[09:31] <toresbe> I seem to recall you starting off your membership by discussing something completely unrelated, too, then arguing with the admin when he told you to stop.
[09:31] <hexstar> and then the admin threatened to call my isp and use his isp running powers to get my account cancelled
[09:31] <jussi01> !offtopic
[09:31] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:32] <magnetron> hexstar: the ban list got purged a week ago.
[09:32] <nox-Hand> magnetron: Just noticed xD
[09:32] <nox-Hand> THanks though
[09:32] <hexstar> that's interesting...I'm not gong back after how the admin threatened me tho
[09:33] <jombee> I have conky running on my laptop with i810 chipset... it runs fine but blinks
[09:33] <Tixer> I have a server running FF, which I admin over VNC, For some reason, the max res over VNC is 640x, how do I make it bigger?
[09:34] <Slart> Tixer: I think you can set it when you start the vnc server
[09:34] <MajorPayne> FF?
[09:34] <Tixer> Feisty
[09:34] <jussi01> Tixer: which vincserver program are you using?
[09:34] <carter> That's what I was about to ask jussi01
[09:34] <Tixer> Remote-Desktop, whatever's standard in Ubuntu
[09:34] <Slart> Tixer: there is a -geometry switch afaik
[09:34] <Tixer> it's not that VNC is limiting the res
[09:34] <MajorPayne> Tixer: Or you can use ssh with -X.
[09:35] <Tixer> it's that ubuntu won't let me pick a res higher than 640
[09:35] <MajorPayne> Tixer: That will just forward a lone window.
[09:35] <Tixer> when I had a monitor connected, max res was 1280
[09:35] <jussi01> Tixer: man remote-desktop
[09:35] <hexstar> the threat...
[09:35] <hexstar> One thing you might want to be aware of... Running the classiccmp list is a
[09:35] <hexstar> hobby for me. In my day job, I own an ISP. I will be calling your ISP's
[09:35] <hexstar> network admin/abuse group today and discussing your fraud and net abuse.
[09:35] <hexstar> They may cancel your internet access immediately - I don't know what their
[09:35] <hexstar> policy is, yet. For most any ISP fraud and/or abuse constitutes a violation
[09:35] <hexstar> of their AUP (Acceptable Use Policy). Usually one ISP is helpful to another
[09:35] <hexstar> out of professional courtesy for people who cause fraud & abuse like you.
[09:35] <hexstar> But if they aren't able to help, then I will be contacting your parents both
[09:35] <jussi01> !paste
[09:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:35] <hexstar> via registered mail and via telephone to make sure they are aware of the
[09:35] <hexstar> problem you are causing. Hopefully they will do the responsible thing and
[09:35] <hexstar> remove your internet access.
[09:35] <hexstar> Classiccmp Management
[09:35] <hexstar> Jay West
[09:35] <hexstar> jwest@classiccmp.org
[09:36] <hexstar> sorry, didn't mean for it to do multiple lines like that
[09:36] <jussi01> hexstar: try to use pastebin in future
[09:36] <hexstar> ok sorry
[09:37] <PhysicX> whats is site posting code?
[09:38] <hexstar> ?
[09:38] <MajorPayne> !paste | PhysicX
[09:38] <ubotu> PhysicX: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:38] <PhysicX> thanks
[09:38] <varron> how does the packaging of ubuntu compared with debian? is fiesty fawn comparable to debian 'stable'? what would be comparable to debian 'testing'?
[09:38] <jombee> closer to testing
[09:38] <MajorPayne> I think Ubuntu is based off Debian unstable?
[09:39] <hexstar> but it's still damn stable
[09:39] <hexstar> :)
[09:39] <jombee> but my ubuntu box is just as stable as my debian ever was
[09:39] <PhysicX> How to change policy from 800Mhz to 2Ghz ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30415/
[09:39] <gordonjcp> MajorPayne: not really
[09:39] <hexstar> physicx? are you looking to overclock?
[09:39] <varron> which is the released version of ubuntu?
[09:39] <gordonjcp> MajorPayne: also, "unstable" in this case means "subject to change", not "unreliable"
[09:39] <MajorPayne> gordonjcp: I thought they based it off unstable but just chose core packages to make sure was stable before each releace.
[09:40] <jussi01> !debian
[09:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[09:40] <gordonjcp> MajorPayne: sometihng along those lines
[09:40] <MajorPayne> gordonjcp: I did not mean that Ubuntu is unstable.
[09:40] <PhysicX> hexstar: no, i just want that cpu step up then its starts using CPU more.
[09:41] <varron> fiesty fawn is a released version?
[09:41] <jerbull88> ubuntu is based of debian unstable(sid) which unstable means that it changes and thats causing an issue with compaitbility because ubuntu is constatnyl getting less compatible with debian stable(sarge)
[09:41] <Tixer> none of the things work
[09:41] <Tixer> man remote-desktop is fail
[09:41] <hexstar> tixer, can you paste the output when you do man remote-desktop please?
[09:41] <MajorPayne> Tixer: If it is a server you are running there is no real need to use VNC.  Use ssh.
[09:41] <jombee> physicx are you on a laptop with a variable proc?
[09:41] <Tixer> I prefer to use both
[09:42] <MajorPayne> Tixer: A X server will just slow down your server.
[09:42] <varron> how can something be call a software release if it is still changing?
[09:42] <Tixer> Not all apps on my server can use SSH
[09:42] <jussi01> !feisty | varron
[09:42] <ubotu> varron: Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[09:42] <hexstar> tixer: use webmin as the "gui", much better
[09:42] <PhysicX> jombee: yeah
[09:42] <Tixer> linkplz?
[09:42] <MajorPayne> varron: Fiesty Fawn is not changing.
[09:42] <hexstar> webmin.com
[09:43] <Tixer> that doesn't help
[09:43] <jerbull88> ff is not changng just many of the packages
[09:43] <varron> but fiesty fawn is based on debian's 'unstable', which is changing.
[09:43] <MajorPayne> varron: But Fiesty Fawn is based off a snapshot of a changing distro (Debian stable0.
[09:43] <Tixer> I can already do that stuff over SSH
[09:43] <hexstar> well, I suggest it as a good not so cpu intensive alternative to x
[09:43] <MajorPayne> jerbull88: Isn't the updates just security related?
[09:43] <Tixer> it's other programs
[09:43] <jerbull88> no
[09:43] <hexstar> you shouldn't be running gui apps on a server
[09:43] <jombee> physicx I use k on my laptop let me find out what the name of the app is
[09:43] <varron> MajorPayne, debian stable is a release.
[09:43] <joeu__> hi
[09:44] <MajorPayne> jerbull88: Are you sure?  When Ubuntu makes a releace I thought they only include security, maybe some bug fixes
[09:44] <Tixer> hexstar: I also should be using a real cooling solution to cool a server, and not Q-Tips
[09:44] <PhysicX> jombee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30415/
[09:44] <jerbull88> they cover a broad range of packages to fix bugs
[09:44] <Tixer> >.<
[09:44] <PhysicX> soryr
[09:44] <MajorPayne> varron: So is FF.
[09:44] <hexstar> majorpayne: aren't some feature additions?
[09:44] <PhysicX> jombee: cpufrequtils
[09:44] <hexstar> tixer: lol
[09:44] <SoulPropagation> hexstar: What was that about the isp fraud?
[09:44] <Tixer> my thing doesn't get that much load
[09:44] <hexstar> soul: the threat I got from the cctalk admin after he banned me
[09:44] <MajorPayne> hexstar: I don't think.  Not between releaces.  But I could be wrong.
[09:44] <Tixer> so it doesn't matter
[09:44] <joeu__> some people have problem with the new version of firefox? (2.0.0.5)
[09:45] <varron> MajorPayne, so fiesty fawn is assumed not to change besides any secuirty updates?
[09:45] <jussi01> hexstar: MajorPayneis correct, the only fixes released are security ones on ff
[09:45] <MajorPayne> varron: And bug fixes, as far as I know.
[09:45] <hexstar> he said "fraud" because I did sign up under a different name to try and just continue getting posts...I slipped though and sent a post in and that tipped him off
[09:45] <Tixer> so how can I force the resolution to higher
[09:45] <jombee>  there is an app that you can dock to make it slow fast or dynamic
[09:45] <joeu__> since i update firefox, i cant access to the web
[09:45] <jerbull88> varron, the core of ff will not change until the next release
[09:45] <hexstar> jussi01: oh you're talking about ff
[09:46] <hexstar> thought you were talking about in general
[09:46] <bullgard4> How is a 'launcher' defined? Is it a function (see  http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/84973/0/print/)? Is it a data structure? Is it an executable file (see Ubuntu dialog 'Create Launcher')?
[09:46] <jussi01> hexstar: yes - ff - feisty fawn
[09:46] <hexstar> ok lol
[09:46] <SoulPropagation> magnetron: I have a site license for Enterprise, think I can do whatever I want with it =P
[09:46] <jussi01> hexstar: so the current release
[09:46] <hexstar> indeed
[09:46] <hexstar> what's the next release called?
[09:46] <varron> in that case, 'fiesty fawn' is stable. in that case which is  'testing' in ubuntu?
[09:47] <MajorPayne> varron: Gutsy Gibbon.
[09:48] <varron> ok, thks.
[09:48] <jerbull88> major, r u serious, thats the new release?
[09:48] <hexstar> ah gutsy is the next ubuntu release?
[09:48] <mwe> right
[09:48] <hexstar> cool
[09:48] <jussi01> hexstar: yes
[09:48] <jussi01> !release
[09:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:48] <jerbull88> whats a gibbon
[09:48] <hexstar> lol
[09:48] <jussi01> jerbull88: monkey
[09:48] <SoulPropagation> scotty: no problem btw
[09:48] <MajorPayne> jerbull88: That's the next one.
[09:48] <gordonjcp> hexstar: well not so much fraud, as the way you constantly advocated software piracy on the list
[09:48] <osfameron> a small ape in the family Hylobatidae
[09:48] <jerbull88> i like feistys name so much better
[09:49] <SoulPropagation> scotty: just try to help someone else with the problem someday =D
[09:49] <jombee> I can't find it
[09:49] <MajorPayne> I just call it 7.10.
[09:49] <hexstar> gordonjcp: see, the russian comment wasn't meant to advocate piracy but everyone took it as such
[09:49] <jerbull88> osfameron, way to go crocodile hunter
[09:49] <jussi01> anyway, we need to get back on topic here. who has support questions
[09:49] <SoulPropagation> hexstar: What was the comment anyway
[09:49] <scotty> SoulPropagation: Will do :D
[09:49] <jussi01> ?
[09:49] <MajorPayne> Etch is the only releace that I call by it's name.  And that's because it will not change for a long long time.
[09:49] <PhysicX> anyone use cpufrequtils to control CPU SPEED
[09:49] <gordonjcp> hexstar: a comment which boiled down to "let's upload lots of copyrighted material to a server in Russia"
[09:49] <hexstar> SoulPropagation: I said "Why not host in russia? That way we won't have to worry about copyrights?"
[09:50] <jussi01> !offtopic | hexstar SoulPropagation
[09:50] <ubotu> hexstar SoulPropagation: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:50] <NETWizz> Knock Knock
[09:50] <gordonjcp> hexstar: this is offtopic, anyway
[09:50] <hexstar> The discussion was about doing a vintage software archive, my comment was intended to be such that since some old software has copyrights still we could archive it all publicly without having to worry about the copyrights. I wouldn't think of it as pirating as the software is only used by a minority of people and is 99% of the time abandoned by the creator who may not even exist anymore
[09:50] <hexstar> It would merely be a safety measure to something that shouldn't be a issue anyways
[09:51] <osfameron> how do I get mutt to use my email address in From and Reply-To?
[09:51] <jussi01> hexstar: please go to off topic
[09:51] <hexstar> k
[09:51] <NETWizz> Knock Knock
[09:51] <osfameron> I've set "from", "envelope_from" and "hidden_host"...
[09:51] <osfameron> (cargo culted from someone else's muttrc, but I'm still seeing   osfameron@myhostname  as the from and reply-to address...)
[09:51] <MajorPayne> osfameron: try use_from="yes"
[09:52] <hexstar> are you in offtopic gordonjcp?
[09:52] <osfameron> MajorPayne: ah, ok - I wondered about that, but man muttrc suggested it was the default... I'll try!
[09:52] <MajorPayne> envelope_from should be set to yes and from should be your email.
[09:52] <nahema> enybudy konw if sony vaio laptops suport ubunut 7.04?
[09:52] <jussi01> nahema: some do
[09:52] <nahema> i am interesed in ar series
[09:52] <jerbull88> jussi, why wouldnt they?
[09:52] <jussi01> !hardware | nahema
[09:52] <ubotu> nahema: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:53] <hexstar> gordonjcp?
[09:53] <MajorPayne> osfameron: I am just looking at my .muttrc.  I hope that works for you (That's what I have).
[09:53] <jerbull88> bios?
[09:53] <hexstar> !bios
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <nahema> thanks all
[09:53] <osfameron> MajorPayne: yes!  that seems to work
[09:53] <jussi01> jerbull88: somehardware just doesnt work, some is an absolute pain.
[09:53] <majorjrk> iam just wondering, why cant ndiswrapper work for other then wifi cards, like webcams etc ?
[09:53] <hexstar> because ndiswrapper is only for wifi drivers
[09:53] <jerbull88> just curious
[09:54] <MajorPayne> osfameron: Good.
[09:54] <osfameron> MajorPayne: I also had 'set envelope_from' instead of 'set envelope_from="yes"', maybe that was from a different version of config... seems fine with that change and the use_from
[09:54] <majorjrk> hexstar: thanks for stating the obvious
[09:54] <hexstar> huh?
[09:54] <hexstar> oh
[09:54] <hexstar> well that's the reason why
[09:54] <SoulPropagation> Why am I banned from #-offtopic? Never even been there
[09:54] <thebigham> i need help =(
[09:54] <majorjrk> thats not what i asked, and that not the reason why
[09:54] <hexstar> lol
[09:54] <MajorPayne> osfameron: If I remember corretly "set envelope_from="yes"" is the same as "set envelope_from".  The same as unset and no.
[09:54] <thebigham> it says i ahve broken dependencies
[09:55] <thebigham> and i cant install anything
[09:55] <jussi01> SoulPropagation: jump into #ubuntu-ops and ask
[09:55] <osfameron> now if only I could work out how to get offlineimap to talk to fastmail.fm without crashing out, then I could go through the "fun" of setting up different accounts with the same address..
[09:55] <majorjrk> i mean, is it impossible or to hard to develop something that can use window driver for webcam like ndiswrapper work for wifi...
[09:55] <jussi01> thebigham: sudo apt-get install -f
[09:55] <hexstar> SoulPropagation: you probably have a dhcp assigned ip and your ip was banned from abuse by some other user
[09:55] <krinns> any one works on 3ware utility
[09:55] <sniff_> how to setup pre-up
[09:55] <krinns> command line
[09:55] <MajorPayne> osfameron: Ahh, I can't help you there.  Maybe #mutt may help.
[09:55] <osfameron> MajorPayne: yeah, that's waht I'd guessed.  In which case it's only the "use_from" setting that was missing (and the manual is then maybe incorrect?  or perhaps a system wide config somewhere disabled it?)
[09:55] <ExiledSoldier> I have a HDD with Windows and a HDD with Ubuntu and want to know how to be able to choose which OS to boot on startup.
[09:56] <jussi01> !grub | ExiledSoldier
[09:56] <ubotu> ExiledSoldier: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:56] <osfameron> MajorPayne: oh, good idea, ta!
[09:56] <MajorPayne> osfameron: Not sure, you can check your /etc/Muttrc
[09:56] <thebigham> jussi01: it says unable to lock the download directory
[09:56] <ihavenoname>  hi
[09:56] <ihavenoname>  hi
[09:56] <ihavenoname>  someone there
[09:56] <hexstar> hi
[09:56] <thebigham> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:56] <MajorPayne> osfameron: I am not Mutt expert.  I got it to do what I wanted it to do and I didn't touch it since.
[09:56] <piti> Hi everyone. I'd like to know if video acceleration is enabled or not with the (official) java plugin for firefox (libjavaplugin_oji.so)
[09:57] <hexstar> thebigham, you have to do sudo
[09:57] <osfameron> MajorPayne: yeah, that's my philosophy too :-)
[09:57] <sniff_> how to setup pre-up
[09:57] <jerbull88> exiled, normally when i do a dual boot it is on the same hard drive with different partitions
[09:57] <ihavenoname>  f
[09:57] <jussi01> !adeptfix | thebigham
[09:57] <ubotu> thebigham: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:57] <hexstar> ihavenoname: what? I don't know how to help you with 'f'
[09:57] <hexstar> did you mean f***? that's not appropiate for here
[09:58] <sniff_> how to setup pre-up
[09:58] <hexstar> what's pre-up?
[09:58] <hexstar> !pre-up
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pre-up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <jussi01> thebigham: that fix should work for a crashe synaptic also
[09:58] <thebigham>  beryl-plugins-unsupported-data depends on beryl-plugins-unsupported; however:
[09:58] <thebigham>   Package beryl-plugins-unsupported is not installed.
[09:58] <thebigham> dpkg: error processing beryl-plugins-unsupported-data (--configure):
[09:58] <thebigham>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[09:58] <thebigham> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:58] <thebigham>  beryl-plugins-unsupported-data
[09:58] <hexstar> use pastebin
[09:58] <Myrtti> thebigham: thank you for using pastebin the next time
[09:59] <Myrtti> !paste | thebigham
[09:59] <ubotu> thebigham: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:59] <jussi01> thebigham: #ubuntu-efffects for beryl stuff
[09:59] <thebigham> oh sorry =(
[09:59] <hexstar> -f
[09:59] <sniff_> my ubuntu network connection was down, how to up back, and my eth0: no link
[09:59] <jerbull88> sniff....in english?
[10:00] <hexstar> sniff: I think you do ifconfig eth0 up
[10:00] <MajorPayne> sniff_: Are you talking about the scripts that get run as your network comes up?
[10:00] <hexstar> ifconfig eth0 up
[10:01] <Sulo_Seppa> Do more people here use kde or gnome?
[10:01] <hexstar> kde :D
[10:01] <jerbull88> i use gnome
[10:01] <jerbull88> some kde apps tho
[10:01] <togr> Sulo_Seppa, why?
[10:01] <tsocks> Sulo_Seppa: KDE Rulezzz.. ;-)
[10:01] <togr> trying to stir up a religious war?
[10:01] <bullgard4> After a cold boot Ubuntu 7.04 will display my OO.o Database not on workspace 4 but on workspace 1 although I have stored the session with Base on workspace 4. Another Ubuntu 7.04 computer does not make this error but its Ubuntu is no upgrade from 6.10.
[10:01] <jerbull88> kde seems to be a little unstable
[10:01] <Myrtti> _Johny: thank you for the info. Please, turn that off.
[10:01] <Sulo_Seppa> togr: It is very important
[10:01] <toogodoo> plz see a pastebin entry from toogodoo
[10:01] <hexstar> kde is more powerful
[10:01] <toogodoo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30416/
[10:02] <togr> Sulo_Seppa, why?
[10:02] <hexstar> he said it's very important
[10:02] <sniff_> hexstar: also cant, my result eth0: no link
[10:02] <jerbull88> kde= more features, less reliable gnome=less bells and whistles, more reliable
[10:02] <allan789> help
[10:02] <Sulo_Seppa> togr: Because we live in a post-9/11 world where even black people can get jobs. Understood?
[10:02] <allan789> help please
[10:02] <togr> hexstar, I saw that.  I was asking why it is important
[10:02] <hexstar> sniff: that means you have a cable connection loose somewhere, are you sure they're all solid and your router/hubs are up?
[10:02] <thebigham> noone would help me with my problem in ubuntu-effects
[10:02] <thebigham> =(
[10:03] <hexstar> sulo: are you racist?!
[10:03] <Sulo_Seppa> No
[10:03] <allan789> help 4 ubunto linux setup
[10:03] <hexstar> where even black people can get jobs ..
[10:03] <sauvin> I've had no trouble with KDE reliability, but I HAVE had gnome give me fits.
[10:03] <togr> Sulo_Seppa, will knowing the relative numbers of gnome and kde users in this channel help you or anyone else get a job?
[10:03] <jussi01> allan789: whats the problem?
[10:03] <Myrtti> please folks, take the offtopic someplace else
[10:03] <Sulo_Seppa> togr: No, but we may face another terrorist attack
[10:03] <magnetron> !offtopic | Sulo_Seppa jerbull88 hexstar
[10:03] <ubotu> Sulo_Seppa jerbull88 hexstar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:03] <Myrtti> this channel is for Ubuntu support
[10:03] <sniff_> MajorPayne: sniff_: Are you talking about the scripts that get run as your network comes up? <-- yes and how tu get normal back
[10:03] <hexstar> blacks aren't the terrorists, the iraqi's are
[10:04] <allan789> i have 2 computer
[10:04] <Myrtti> hexstar: please.
[10:04] <hexstar> kk
[10:04] <magnetron> !ops | Sulo_Seppa hexstar
[10:04] <ubotu> Sulo_Seppa hexstar: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[10:04] <allan789> ? is how can i connect the 2 of them
[10:04] <Myrtti> magnetron: too early
[10:04] <allan789> do i need server?
[10:04] <togr> Sulo_Seppa, you are very confused
[10:04] <sniff_> hexstar: switch are up
[10:04] <jussi01> !samba | allan789
[10:04] <ubotu> allan789: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:05] <MajorPayne> sniff_: I am not sure.  Been a long time sinse I done that.  I was just wondering if that is what your question was about.
[10:05] <Amaranth> Sulo_Seppa: #politics
[10:05] <hexstar> kicking isn't nice :P
[10:05] <jussi01> hexstar: well play by the rules then
[10:05] <hexstar> kk sorry, I said I was sorry
[10:05] <hexstar> and then stopped
[10:05] <allan789> no i mean ubunto to ubunto what is the proper installation to communicate my computer
[10:05] <sauvin> Allan, I'm on cable Internet, therefore cable modem. I bought a four-port router, and that's how I connect my computers.
[10:05] <Sulo_Seppa> Is awn in the repos?
[10:05] <allan789> i have 2 units
[10:05] <hexstar> allan789: install a nic, connect it to a hub or router
[10:06] <jussi01> !info awn
[10:06] <ubotu> Package awn does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:06] <thebigham> how can i unlock locked files
[10:06] <jerbull88> allan, crossover cable
[10:06] <hexstar> you can also use a crossover cable to connect them directly using two nics
[10:06] <magnetron> allan789: do you have network cards connected?
[10:06] <jussi01> Sulo_Seppa: I think it will be in gutsy
[10:06] <MajorPayne> allan789: Do you mean crossover?
[10:06] <allan789> i have router and hub
[10:06] <hexstar> but then you have to manually assign ips
[10:06] <MajorPayne> allan789: Like internet connection sharing.
[10:06] <MajorPayne> allan789: Then do you mean how can you trasfer files?
[10:07] <hexstar> allan789: ok use router, take modem with cable and put in wan port, put others in other ports...and you're done
[10:07] <toogodoo> lol
[10:07] <jerbull88> yay
[10:07] <hexstar> no need for a hub
[10:07] <allan789> k how can i share my files to another computer like in windows
[10:07] <sauvin> Configure the computers for DHCP for maximum hands-off convenience.
[10:07] <MajorPayne> allan789: If you want to know how how to transfer files try this: scp filenameToSend user@host:/directory/to/put/file
[10:07] <jerbull88> samba
[10:08] <jussi01> thebigham: did you try the command i gave you earlier?
[10:08] <hexstar> allan789: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304040
[10:08] <sauvin> Samba, I've heard isn't a no-brainer for configuring.
[10:08] <MajorPayne> NFS can be easy.
[10:08] <jussi01> !samba | allan789
[10:08] <ubotu> allan789: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:08] <MajorPayne> Don't use samba unless you have Windows.
[10:08] <jerbull88> theres a youtube video that will walk you through setting up samba
[10:09] <MajorPayne> jerbull88: No need to use Samba if he has no Windows install.
[10:09] <magnetron> allan789: you don't need samba
[10:09] <MajorPayne> I would suggest just using ssh or NFS.
[10:09] <hexstar> alan789: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Share_files_using_Samba
[10:09] <allan789> jussi01 can i talk to u private pls.
[10:09] <MajorPayne> hexstar: Don't need samba, no Windows install.
[10:09] <kursed> i am an extremely new user to ubuntu (never used linux or any other OS apart from windows before) and need answers to a few basic questions. Would it be possible for anyone of you to help me out?
[10:09] <hexstar> oh
[10:09] <MajorPayne> !ask | kursed
[10:09] <ubotu> kursed: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:09] <jussi01> allan789: no, I dont do private, ask here so everyone can benefit
[10:10] <allan789> k
[10:10] <sauvin> Kursed, it would be possible to ask.
[10:10] <hexstar> allan789: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4880
[10:10] <kursed> i wanted to know as to how can i log into my administrator account (/root)?
[10:10] <allan789> k this s wat im doing in my 2 computers
[10:10] <hexstar> ok this is a test of the emergency broadcast system
[10:10] <jerbull88> imn not touching root again
[10:10] <KaOS-bEat> hi all, when i booted my feisty this morning, it stopped after mountng the root disk and telling me there was no /sbin/init  :-(
[10:10] <MajorPayne> !sudo | kursed
[10:10] <ubotu> kursed: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:10] <magnetron> allan789: right click a folder and choose "share". when it ask for "samba" or "nfs", chooose nfs
[10:10] <jerbull88> i got in trouble last time
[10:10] <KaOS-bEat> I cannot even chroot into my old system
[10:10] <allan789> do i need setup or install my 1st units as server?
[10:11] <KaOS-bEat> but the disk mounts fine
[10:11] <hexstar> kaos: sounds like you hosed your system
[10:11] <KaOS-bEat> hextar: it does
[10:11] <KaOS-bEat> but... can I fix it???
[10:11] <hexstar> backup your home directories and config files and do a reinstall
[10:11] <magnetron> allan789: any ubuntu pc can act as server, no need for the server cd
[10:11] <KaOS-bEat> ok... you really think that's my only option
[10:12] <MajorPayne> KaOS-bEat: It doesn't sound good.
[10:12] <hexstar> well someone else might know of a way to replace the init script but I don't think that's easily doable
[10:12] <allan789> so i setup my 2 units just like an ordinary setup
[10:12] <hexstar> infact there probably is more then just the script that's broken
[10:12] <jussi01> allan789: yes
[10:12] <KaOS-bEat> can't I just copy /sbin and /bin from an feisty install CD?
[10:12] <magnetron> KaOS-bEat: there are the fsck command, it may be able to repair the disk
[10:13] <hexstar> KaOS-bEat: you could try, no garuntees though
[10:13] <KaOS-bEat> magnetron: I already did that, it just says CLEAN
[10:13] <KaOS-bEat> well, I'm downloading the iso right ow
[10:13] <hexstar> ok, keep us updated :)
[10:13] <magnetron> KaOS-bEat: did you remove any files last time? as root?
[10:13] <jerbull88> :)
[10:13] <KaOS-bEat> it is great though that I can just pop in the dapper iso and ask for help on IRC!
[10:14] <allan789> magneton: in my another pc how can i browse the share folder
[10:14] <KaOS-bEat> magnetron:  power outage
[10:14] <hexstar> I remember as a kid when my win 95 machine ran out of disk space...I deleted io.sys...XD
[10:14] <KaOS-bEat> so te disk was prolly not ok
[10:14] <hexstar> that was fun :P
[10:14] <jerbull88> hahaha
[10:14] <kursed> thanks a lot for that link, how can i mount ISOs in ubunto? I've tried a couple of scripts but 1. my directory doesn't seem to have a scripts folder, 2. it doesnt let me copy scripts to bin folder saying that i do not enjoy sufficient privilidges
[10:14] <KaOS-bEat> wel I have 9Gb free space left, W95 would crash on that fact alone (too much free space)
[10:15] <MajorPayne> kursed: Try ./scriptName
[10:15] <hexstar> kursed: http://steinsoft.net/index.php?site=Programming/Articles/linux-mountiso
[10:15] <berent>  there is a x64 vista dvd on bittorent.com as a beta release. does it have any problems
[10:15] <sauvin> Hexstar, I had a friend who'd bought and installed Stacker (bad old DOS days), and then went snooping around with Norton Commander, noticed a STACVOL.000 file that ate most of his disk, and deleted it. He had all KINDS of things to say about not being able to use his computer after that, none of it repeatable in polite company.
[10:15] <hexstar> berent: x64 linux support is not good
[10:15] <hexstar> use x86
[10:16] <furball> hello
[10:16] <hexstar> sauvin: LOL
[10:16] <Slart> berent: vista dvd?
[10:16] <furball> exit
[10:16] <kursed> thanks very much!
[10:16] <berent> Slart: yes . i just wanted to have dual boot for photoshop and things like that.
[10:16] <hexstar> I remember another 95 machine I had, I updated IE to something like 5 so the quick start icons in the left appeared...nothing opened anymore as explorer always faulted...
[10:16] <hexstar> kursed: np :)
[10:16] <Slart> berent: ah.. better ask some vista-people if it's any good then =)
[10:17] <MajorPayne> When I had Windows 95 I upgraded to Win 98 and borked my system.
[10:17] <KaOS-bEat> ok, so backing up my homedir...
[10:17] <berent> Slart: don't get offensive .
[10:17] <MajorPayne> Wasn't long after that I tried Linux.
[10:17] <hexstar> haha
[10:17] <hexstar> don't get me started on ME XD
[10:17] <jerbull88> NT
[10:18] <hexstar> my god they must've literally copied verbatum nt code right into 98 code and compiled it
[10:18] <Slart> berent: I'm not.. people in here usually don't like vista very much.. you might get better answers with.. ahem.. a more "vista friendly" crowd
[10:18] <jerbull88> i hated my old nt
[10:18] <hexstar> nt and 2k are the best os's M$ ever made imo
[10:18] <MajorPayne> !windows
[10:18] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:18] <magnetron> !offtopic | jerbull88 hexstar
[10:18] <hexstar> xp is me reborn, except it's done right
[10:18] <ubotu> jerbull88 hexstar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:18] <kursed> when i open the terminal , does it matter if the prompt is ~$ or ~#?
[10:18] <berent> Slart: I am on ubuntu itself .but how do i run photoshop on it?
[10:19] <hexstar> oh oops...I went OT again sorry
[10:19] <MajorPayne> kursed: # means you have root privilages.  $ means norml user.
[10:19] <jerbull88> !windows
[10:19] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:19] <magnetron> hexstar: you are pushing it
[10:19] <kursed> got it!
[10:19] <hexstar> sorry
[10:19] <jerbull88> thats funny
[10:19] <Slart> berent: you can't.. not as far as I know.. I don't think gimp is a suitable replacement if you're going to use it in any advanced manner
[10:19] <magnetron> hexstar: don't be sorry, just stop it
[10:19] <hexstar> ok
[10:19] <bullgard4> /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko is not commented enough. Where is the function acpi_evaluate_object (line #146) defined?
[10:20] <ari_stress> strange...., linus hasn't tried debian: http://www.oneopensource.it/interview-linus-torvalds/
[10:20] <hexstar> lol
[10:20] <jerbull88> why does my computer not physically power down after i go throught the shutdown process
[10:20] <Slart> berent: there is a "make gimp look like photoshop"-patch.. but I think it's just superficial.. haven't tried it myself though so don't take my word for it
[10:21] <jerbull88> i hear the hdd turn off but the power light stays on
[10:21] <hexstar> jerbull: bios is probably too old
[10:21] <jerbull88> i figured that
[10:21] <hexstar> try flashing a newer one
[10:21] <jerbull88> acpi
[10:21] <rohan> what is the name of hte program which is a GUI frontend to gconf ?
[10:21] <jerbull88> how do u flash the bios
[10:21] <tarzeau> jerbull88: using flashrom
[10:21] <magnetron> rohan: gconf-editor
[10:21] <rohan> magnetron: thanks :)
[10:21] <jerbull88> tarz, enlighten me
[10:21] <hexstar> your pc maker usually provides those tools for you jerbull88
[10:21] <tarzeau> jerbull88: packages.debian.org/flashrom
[10:22] <rohan> jerbull88: most pc manufacturers provide tools only for windows .. check it out
[10:22] <Ademan> what's the name of the default image viewer in GNOME?
[10:22] <Ademan> like the project name
[10:22] <Jordan_U> jerbull88, Eye of Gnome I think
[10:22] <hexstar> well, what it usually is is a flashing app and rom that runs in dos, just make a dos bootdisk and put the flash app and rom on the disk and go
[10:22] <Slart> jerbull88: I just updated my asus bios.. I had to get a freedos boot disk to do the upgrade from.. but it worked
[10:22] <Jordan_U> Ademan, , Eye of Gnome I think
[10:22] <hexstar> that's right
[10:23] <Jordan_U> jerbull88, Sorry, wrong nick on that last comment
[10:23] <Ademan> Jordan_U: thought so, but someone told me otherwise
[10:23] <hexstar> (slart)
[10:23] <Ademan> whoa, did someone ask the same question like right above me? lol
[10:23] <jerbull88> does it just read like a startup disk and flash from there
[10:23] <hexstar> well it boots to the A:\> prompt and then you type in the name of the flash executable, press enter and follow the prompts
[10:24] <jerbull88> keewl
[10:24] <Houdini_User> hello
[10:24] <hexstar> yep
[10:24] <hexstar> so find out who made your pc, go to their website...go to the support section and look for the drivers it should be there
[10:24] <Jordan_U> !hi | Houdini_User
[10:24] <ubotu> Houdini_User: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:24] <kursed> i am reading the link about getting root privildges but i just dont get it...isn't there like a simple command. entering which i can get root privilidges for a while?
[10:24] <Slart> switch "made your pc" for "made your motherboard"
[10:24] <Jordan_U> kursed, sudo
[10:25] <kursed> k
[10:25] <hexstar> well you could do that, most pc makers update the bios with their own splash screen and such tho
[10:25] <hexstar> and then release the updates through their website
[10:25] <Slart> kursed: sudo will only ask for the password the first time... then you can use it without password for some period of time.. 5 minutes perhaps?
[10:25] <hexstar> If you use the mobo's own bios you may void your warranty
[10:25] <Jordan_U> kursed, Just use sudo <command> or for GUI apps gksudo <command> and they will run as root
[10:25] <kursed> ok
[10:25] <Slart> hexstar: ah.. true.. disregard the motherboard thing
[10:25] <kursed> lemme try it :)
[10:25] <hexstar> Although the mobo makers bios usually is better because it isn't crippled
[10:26] <hexstar> but still, it's safer to go with the pc makers releases
[10:26] <berent> i have a 64 bit amd now and i have a generic and x86 versions of ubuntu . The generic runs properly but i want to know if x86 version runs also
[10:26] <orbisvicis> !et
[10:26] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[10:26] <hexstar> x86 should run fine
[10:27] <Houdini_User> anyone know if nero linux 3 will work with ubuntu?
[10:27] <jayde_drag0n> running ubuntu feisty live cd can someone please help me re-install grub?
[10:27] <hexstar> 64bit processors are x86 backwards compatible
[10:27] <Jordan_U> berent, You could try the liveCD, 64 bit can be hard if you use anything proprietary, either should work on your comp though
[10:27] <Jordan_U> !grub | jayde_drag0n
[10:27] <ubotu> jayde_drag0n: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:28] <hexstar> [:)
[10:28] <JoshHendo> Does anyone know how to speed up FTP upload speeds? I am using gFTP at the moment and the speeds are extremely slow.
[10:28] <hexstar> you can't, your isp controls that
[10:28] <berent> Jordan_U : do u mean 64 bit supports 32 bit version also?
[10:29] <hexstar> JoshHendo: you can check with your isp to see if they have a higher bandwidth package though
[10:29] <Jordan_U> berent, I am not quite sure what you mean
[10:29] <kursed> ok the command is working now but the issue of mouting iso still remains, when i enter the command given in the link provided to me above, it says; no such file or directory?
[10:29] <ExiledSoldier> I just tried to use grub to choose between OS's on different HDD's for the first time and I got a 'diskette drive 0' error.  can anyone help me.
[10:29] <sauvin> I hear torrents are faster.
[10:29] <Jordan_U> berent, You can run 32 bit apps in 64 bit Ubuntu but it takes some work
[10:29] <hexstar> JoshHendo: see if you can get verizon fios, they offer the best upload speeds at very affordable prices
[10:30] <Slart> JoshHendo: how bad is extremely low? 2kb/s? worse?
[10:30] <JoshHendo> I am able to upload fine under Windows though, and anything else that requires uploading is fine
[10:30] <hexstar> kursed: I assume you're typing in the /mnt part exactly as the site says?
[10:30] <jayde_drag0n> i'm following the directions on ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351    and its not working for me...  the first step gave me an error.. the second step i get to the part of  sudo mount -t /dev/sda6 /mnt/root.... but sda6 is incorrect and i don't know what ii'm supposed to put there per my system
[10:30] <kursed> yep
[10:30] <hexstar> you need to make the dir first
[10:30] <hexstar> mkdir /dir/dir
[10:30] <JoshHendo> Slart, worse, if it does upload a file, it will have "Transfer Stalled" for ages
[10:30] <berent> Jordan_U : how do i know if i am running 32 bit of ubuntu or 64 bit since i am on generic
[10:30] <Slart> JoshHendo: doesn't sound like a ISP problem.. probably something else
[10:31] <Jordan_U> berent, the generic kernel is 32 bit
[10:31] <KaOS-bEat> berent: , I did that (32bit apps on my 64bit ubuntu, you need dchroot, and some scripts, and lots of hd-space, because you need to install 32bit libs as well
[10:31] <JoshHendo> I have heard that an encrypted wireless connection slows it down, which I do have, is that true?
[10:31] <hexstar> JoshHendo: that won't happen unless your computer is ancient
[10:31] <JoshHendo> ok
[10:31] <hexstar> e.g. 75mhz or slower
[10:31] <levander`> JoshHendo: the encrypted file might be a little bigger than the unencrypted file
[10:32] <KaOS-bEat> well about to leave reboot and reinstall bye all
[10:32] <berent> Jordan_U: is it? then it has some extensions to work as 64 bit. not a hardcore 64 kernel?
[10:32] <hexstar> ok later KaOS-bEat
[10:32] <JoshHendo> Ok
[10:32] <kursed> got it. hex can you tell me what does the following error mean? E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:32] <JoshHendo> Same problem as on this thread, though it doesn't seem to have a solution, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418165
[10:32] <BamBam> i'm looking for the answers to a study book called: wirelss communications & networks --- by william stallings second edition
[10:32] <BamBam> does anyone know where can i find it ?
[10:32] <hexstar> kursed: you got that when doing the mount command?
[10:32] <berent> KaOS:bEat: which version are you running. just tell me what u get when u do uname -r
[10:32] <kursed> nope, when installing a package
[10:32] <ExiledSoldier> I just tried to use grub to choose between OS's on different HDD's for the first time and I got a 'diskette drive 0' error.  anyone know whats wrong?
[10:32] <levander> BamBam: you tried Amazon?  Abebooks?
[10:32] <Jordan_U> berent, No there is a 32 bit and 64 bit version of Ubuntu, you are running the 32 bit version, the 64 bit version uses a 64 bit kernel and programs
[10:32] <levander> BamBam: Contact the publisher.
[10:32] <kursed> rather every package that i install i am getting this error.
[10:33] <hexstar> oh...try doing a apt-get install system-config-cluster and see if that package installs ok and then try again kursed
[10:33] <kursed> the install is just fine
[10:33] <kursed> the program works
[10:33] <kursed> but it does give me this error.
[10:33] <BamBam> levander: the publisher only gives it to lecturers
[10:33] <levander> ExiledSoldier: sounds like grub didn't recognize the disk's boot image it was supposed to load
[10:33] <kursed> at the time of installation
[10:33] <levander> BamBam: tell him you're a lecturer
[10:33] <Jordan_U> kursed, Can you pastebin the error it gives?
[10:33] <hexstar> yeah, do a apt-get install system-config-cluster and see if that installs ok
[10:33] <levander> BamBam: it's called social engineering
[10:33] <BamBam> levander: but there must be copies of it on the net
[10:33] <Houdini_User> someone said...to run windows app in ubuntu (like world of warcraft)...I need Wine...can anyone point me in the right direction for that?
[10:33] <BamBam> levander: :)
[10:33] <ExiledSoldier> levander: how can I fix it?
[10:33] <kursed> E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[10:33] <kursed> E: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:33] <kursed> E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:34] <berent> Jordan_U: yes .that's why the speed of booting kernel hasn't changed even when my ram and processor has gone 4 times higher
[10:34] <levander> BamBam: check piratesbay.org and emule (amule under Linux)
[10:34] <Jordan_U> !appdb | Houdini_User
[10:34] <ubotu> Houdini_User: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[10:34] <Houdini_User> cool..thanks
[10:34] <hexstar> kursed...hmm not sure
[10:34] <BamBam> levander: ok 10x , just thougth it may be easier to check here first
[10:34] <hexstar> never encountered that before
[10:34] <levander> ExiledSoldier: grub is one of those pains that people only look into once in a while, think you need to read the docs, easiest docs would probably be a step-by-step re-installing on Ubuntu.  Check wiki.ubuntu.com.
[10:34] <hexstar> sorry
[10:34] <kursed> np
[10:34] <kursed> :D
[10:35] <kursed> thanks a lot for the help though
[10:35] <Jordan_U> berent, I don't think that the reason for that is that you aren't using 64 bit, more likely the bottleneck at boot is IO
[10:35] <hexstar> kursed: np
[10:35] <Houdini_User> is wine something difficult to configure?
[10:35] <hexstar> kursed: try apt-get -f
[10:36] <berent> Jordan_U: IO ? what IO when you boot?
[10:36] <hexstar> oops I meant apt-get install -f
[10:36] <Jordan_U> Houdini_User, It depends, if the application you are trying to use works then there is no config needed, if not it can require a little or a lot of hacking depending
[10:36] <ExiledSoldier> levander: I didn't have my Windows HDD plugged in when I installed Ubuntu, could this be the problem?
[10:36] <amaina> ok just like this how can find the share folder
[10:37] <jayde_drag0n> look really... not helping me i don't knwo what i'm doing.. and what i'm typing is obviously not working.. its just giving me an informational output
[10:37] <levander> ExiledSoldier: Do you get that disk error after you select to boot Windows, or before any option is given on what to boot?
[10:37] <amaina> my os is ubunto
[10:37] <berkes> what tool or app is used to create the fstab file (and associcated hibernate storage places etc) on install of kubuntu?
[10:37] <amaina> then my client is ubunto to
[10:37] <levander> ExiledSoldier: is your computer recognizing both hard drives?  (can check in the BIOS)
[10:37] <hexstar> *ubuntu
[10:37] <hexstar> exiledsoldier: check hd jumpers
[10:37] <kursed> Reading package lists... Done
[10:37] <kursed> Building dependency tree
[10:37] <kursed> Reading state information... Done
[10:37] <kursed> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:37] <kursed> 3 not fully installed or removed.
[10:37] <kursed> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:37] <kursed> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[10:37] <Jordan_U> !paste | kursed
[10:37] <ubotu> kursed: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:37] <hexstar> you have to do su before
[10:37] <levander> berkes: fstab is pretty simple, they probably just have a very quickie app that generates it
[10:38] <amaina> help plesase
[10:38] <hexstar> su apt-get install -f
[10:38] <ExiledSoldier> levander: before grub loads.  I'll check BIOS to see if it recognizes.
[10:38] <kursed> sorry!
[10:38] <Houdini_User> sometimes...this chat is a little too fast to keep up with :)
[10:38] <berent> !pastebin > kursed
[10:38] <Jordan_U> kursed, Close synaptic
[10:38] <hexstar> kursed: su apt-get install -f
[10:38] <levander> kursed: that means you're doing something with apt somewhere else, you can't access the apt repositories twice at the same time
[10:38] <Jordan_U> hexstar, Ubuntu uses sudo
[10:38] <berkes> levander: it is *supposed* to be simple, yes. But these friggin UUIDs make it a hell to fix manually :)
[10:38] <amaina> help
[10:38] <berent> Jordan_U: IO ? what IO when you boot?
[10:38] <levander> hexstar: Why did you start using su instead of sudo?
[10:38] <amaina> i am new in ubunto
[10:39] <Jordan_U> berent, Reading from the drive
[10:39] <VSpike> What mechanism provides a drop down history of text in fields in firefox?  Is that part of firefox, or part of gnome?
[10:39] <berkes> somehow the last changes in (k)ubuntu switched between sda and hda (No hardware changed!)
[10:39] <amaina> my problem is how can i share my files
[10:39] <levander> berent: vol_id is the command that tells you the UUID of a drive
[10:39] <hexstar> I've always used su, sudo is fine too though either works
[10:39] <ExiledSoldier> hexstar: jumpers was what I thought, unfortunately I can't see them and need to wait till tomorrow to remove the HDD.
[10:39] <amaina> what im gonna do ples. help
[10:39] <hexstar> usually
[10:39] <VSpike> And more importantly, how do i clear it or disable it
[10:39] <Jordan_U> !uuid | berkes
[10:39] <ubotu> berkes: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:39] <hexstar> ExiledSoldier: ah
[10:39] <amaina> i have 2 units
[10:39] <jayde_drag0n> please i've been at this for over 30 hrs now.. with people ignoring me everytime i tell them.. sorry i don't understand you... can someone please just help me?? i know that this is simple to you.. but to me i'm ready to either cry or throw it out the window
[10:39] <amaina> d os of them is ubunto with gui
[10:39] <berent> Jordan_U:  so you mean i have to upgrade hard disk!
[10:40] <hexstar> lol...jayde_drag0n if you don't want it just mail it to me :D
[10:40] <amaina> hey help me pls.
[10:40] <Bane> Hello I am new to ubuntu, I have Windows XP installed on C: and all the rest of my files installed on D:   how can I install ubuntu without formatting a new partition?
[10:40] <berkes> Jordan_U: I know the rationale. Have followed all this closely. Still. All I need is a way to easily fix both my ubuntu systems so that they have swap and hibernate when booting :)
[10:40] <berent> levander : for what is that required?
[10:40] <Jordan_U> berent, Why is boot speed so important, you should hardly ever need to reboot
[10:40] <hexstar> bane: you'll need to use something like partition magic to make freespace for ubuntu
[10:40] <jayde_drag0n> hexsar... i am to take that as... no you'd rather laugh at me than just help me reinstall grub?
[10:40] <VSpike> jayde_drag0n: what's the quesiton?
[10:40] <levander> berent: To tell fstab about drives you need the UUID's.  But, I'd really read that link ubotu put out there if I were you.
[10:40] <berent> Jordan_U:  for my own knowledge
[10:40] <Jordan_U> berkes, You don't have to use UUID's, you can configure it manually with /dev/whatever
[10:40] <jayde_drag0n> Vspike... i just need to reinstall grub
[10:41] <kursed> !ipastebin
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipastebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <jayde_drag0n> and i don't understand these commands to figure out what to type where
[10:41] <hexstar> jayde_drag0n: no, not laughing at you just trying to have some fun...get rid of the stress :)
[10:41] <berkes> Jordan_U: thats what I did. Being stubborn and all.
[10:41] <kursed> !paste
[10:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:41] <VSpike> jayde_drag0n: reinstall in what sense... what is the problem?
[10:41] <berkes> however, ubuntu would break my disks on upgrade then.
[10:41] <berent> levander: i think you were answering berkes . not me
[10:41] <Bane> hexstar: does partition magic come with magic iso? i know ive seen it somewhere before
[10:41] <jayde_drag0n> i'm sorry hexsar.. i really am about to cry i'm so frustrated... irts really none of you guyss fault... i'm just upset
[10:41] <Flannel> jayde_drag0n: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0  gives you (complete) step by step instructions
[10:41] <levander> berkes: see my last answer to berent
[10:41] <hexstar> no, it's a seperate product
[10:41] <jayde_drag0n> flannel
[10:41] <Flannel> jayde_drag0n: unlike the hit and miss of the forums
[10:41] <jayde_drag0n> i know.. i'm rthere
[10:41] <hexstar> bane: no it's a seperate product
[10:42] <Flannel> jayde_drag0n: do you have a specific question then?  What are you having trouble figuring out?
[10:42] <jayde_drag0n> but i domn'?t know wjhat hda hdf hdg to type!!!
[10:42] <levander> jayde_drag0n: if you're that upset, forget about it, take a break, it's too detailed of work to do when you're ticked
[10:42] <Bane> thanks hexstar
[10:42] <jayde_drag0n> \iu can;'t fighure it out\
[10:42] <berkes> levander: is blkid used to create the data in fstab on install?
[10:42] <Jordan_U> jayde_drag0n, Have you tried following the instructions on the wiki?
[10:42] <hexstar> bane: np
[10:42] <Bane> when i update drivers on ubuntu, and im booting from the cd.. it doesnt save it does it
[10:42] <jayde_drag0n> i am following the instructions
[10:42] <levander> berkes: I haven't seen the code, but I'd bet it is.
[10:42] <jayde_drag0n> but i can't figure out my output to know which ... hda.. hdg.. hdf.. hd1
[10:42] <jayde_drag0n> to type
[10:42] <Flannel> jayde_drag0n: The first instruction you see on that page explains/walks you through determining it.
[10:42] <levander> berkes: Oh, not all the data probably.  But, it's probably used as part of the data gathering process.
[10:43] <jayde_drag0n> i got it wrong
[10:43] <Jordan_U> Bane, No, but you can chroot into your system if you need to update it from the liveCD
[10:43] <kursed> hex - su didn't work so had to use sudo... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30417/
[10:43] <jayde_drag0n> i'm obviously that stupid.. i thought it was hda
[10:43] <jayde_drag0n> but that says ntfs
[10:43] <hexstar> jayde_drag0n: you can use pdisk
[10:43] <jayde_drag0n> not my linux install
[10:43] <Flannel> jayde_drag0n: Right.  Which one is ext3?
[10:43] <hexstar> or kfredisk
[10:43] <berkes> levander: yea. investigating this now. I would loooove some sort of apt-get reinstall fstab or so
[10:43] <Jordan_U> jayde_drag0n, The instructions on the wiki tell you how to find what (hd,X) you need
[10:43] <jayde_drag0n> okay its being laggy gimme a minute to read
[10:43] <berent> Jordan_U:  for my own knowledge
[10:44] <Bane> well i try to go to desktop effects, and it says update nvidia driver.. then i restart and it says it again..  i just assumed it didnt save it, is that correct?
[10:44] <levander> berkes: it's not a complicated file, it's pretty basic as far as UNIX config files go
[10:44] <Flannel> Bane: restart X, (ctrl-alt-backspace) not the whole system
[10:44] <berkes> levander: yea. however, the issue is mainly the associated hibernate and wakeup settings.
[10:44] <jayde_drag0n> whats the ubuntu paste thingy i'll paste what i'm looking at
[10:44] <Flannel> !paste | jayde_drag0n
[10:44] <ubotu> jayde_drag0n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:44] <hexstar> jayde_drag0n: pastebin.com
[10:44] <Bane> thanks flannel
[10:45] <levander> berkes: There are lots of problems with power management in Linux.  I just turned it off and said screw it.  Good luck if you decide to brave that.
[10:45] <thebigham> i have just reinstalled beryl and along with emerald, but for some reason when i click on a theme on emerald, it doesnt work.
[10:45] <thebigham> can anyone help?
[10:45] <Ayabara> !bluetooth
[10:45] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:45] <Jordan_U> Bane, Note that if you run the installer from the LiveCD while using the nvidia drivers it won't configure X correctly on the install
[10:45] <levander> berkes: I'd be doing some bug searches on bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu to get that working
[10:45] <hexstar> thebigham: I never got themes to work either :(
[10:45] <thebigham> i have asked this question on beryl and the ubuntu-effects channel, but noone would help =(
[10:45] <berkes> levander: well, it works fine for me. (IBM to the maxxx) but the problem was fsked UUIDs during hte last two upgrades.
[10:46] <Jordan_U> thebigham, Try reloading emerald?
[10:46] <amaina> hey wats up here
[10:46] <levander> berkes: Cool, if it's worked on your hardware before, you've got much better chance than most.
[10:46] <thebigham> i think i might have missed something
[10:46] <hexstar> nothing much amaina, just some geeks :)
[10:46] <amaina> ? s d procedure by copying files
[10:46] <berkes> after that I manually added my swap /dev/sda5 to several files. But I't prefer to bring this back in step w. ubuntus uuids
[10:46] <thebigham> cause the samething happens at the first time, and someone at ubuntu-effects helped me out
[10:46] <hexstar> amaina: man cp
[10:46] <thebigham> but he wasnt there this time =(
[10:46] <Flannel> !uuid | berkes
[10:47] <ubotu> berkes: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:47] <amaina> man cp wats that? im new in ubunto
[10:47] <Oooops> ubotu: bot?
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <Jordan_U> Oooops, Yes
[10:47] <berkes> Flannel: thanks, already got that from levander :9
[10:47] <Oooops> ubotu: google bot
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <hexstar> amaina: it tells you how to use cp which is the command used to copy files
[10:47] <amaina> hexstar ilove u pls. help
[10:47] <Oooops> ubotu: help cp
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help cp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Oooops> ubotu: weather
[10:48] <berkes> obuto should learn to not tell the same factoid twice to one user.
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about weather - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Flannel> !botabuse | Oooops
[10:48] <ubotu> Oooops: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:48] <Jordan_U> !msgthebot ?
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msgthebot ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Ayabara> what can I use to push files via bluetooth to my cellphone?
[10:48] <Oooops> how to operate on this bot? Flannel
[10:48] <hexstar> !dancewithbot
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dancewithbot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <berkes> Oooops: could you please message the bot in private. this is annoying
[10:48] <berent> how do we mount an iso with an emulator ?
[10:48] <Flannel> Oooops: maybe you should check out the webpage it's giving you.  And take it to #ubuntu-bots
[10:48] <berent> iso
[10:48] <Oooops> oo
[10:48] <berent> !iso
[10:48] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:49] <Oooops> ok
[10:49] <levander> What are those funny A char's in ubotu's output?  Those are annoying.
[10:49] <amaina> buray nindo
[10:49] <Jordan_U> levander, What do you mean?
[10:49] <amaina> lapa baga ang ubunto
[10:50] <amaina> fuck u
[10:50] <kurse1> hex - how can i copy files from home folder to /bin ?
[10:50] <hexstar> what is amaina saying?
[10:50] <kurse1> /name kursed
[10:50] <levander> Jordan_U: Look at the werid char in ubotu's output just before "sudo mount".
[10:50] <hexstar> amaina I can't fuck you from my computer, the intenet can't do that yet sorry
[10:50] <Flannel> !sudo | kurse1
[10:50] <ubotu> kurse1: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:50] <Jordan_U> kurse1, /nick
[10:50] <bain> alo all .. is there a way to bootstrap configs for packages during installation or afterwards .. ?
[10:51] <levander> bain: apt does that automatically
[10:51] <levander> you don't have to do it yourself
[10:51] <amaina> oh sory
[10:51] <Oooops> if anyone here play ET?
[10:51] <amaina> i mean fuck me im open whahahahah
[10:51] <bain> levander: how ?
[10:51] <berent> amaina : what do you want exactly
[10:51] <Oooops> if anyone know whosgaming server
[10:51] <MajorPayne> !ohmy | Amaranth
[10:51] <ubotu> Amaranth: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:51] <hexstar> amaina: uh....lol?
[10:51] <Flannel> levander: unicode, you apparently aren't UTF enabled currently
[10:52] <Amaranth> MajorPayne: *cough*
[10:52] <levander> bain: there are scripts called postinst and preinst included in the debs that are installed, apt just runs those
[10:52] <berent> hexstar was almost ready
[10:52] <hexstar> lol
[10:52] <levander> Flannel: nope, I'm using Emacs.  This is only channel where people are assuming you've got Unicode.
[10:52] <Oooops> if anyone know whosgaming server or ET or idsoft?
[10:52] <MajorPayne> Amaranth: Huh?
[10:52] <bain> levander: yes I know that .. but for instance .. postfix .. I need to do the install and setup the server as sattilite with settings in a script .. witghout user input ...
[10:52] <PriceChild> Oooops, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:52] <hexstar> maybe she likes you MajorPayne :)
[10:52] <kurse1> i can't seem to use the direct copy command (even with sudo)... so .... what should i be doing?
[10:53] <PriceChild> MajorPayne, your tab completion went wrong
[10:53] <Oooops> something about ubuntu. PriceChild
[10:53] <togr> MajorPayne, you asked Amaranth to be family friendly.  I think you meant amaina
[10:53] <levander> bain: Look at the Ubuntu "alternate" install CD.  I think that's what you're looking for.  Not sure.
[10:53] <thebigham> can someone please help me get emerald theme working please
[10:53] <Jordan_U> kurse1, What is the exact command you are running and what is the error?
[10:53] <hexstar> what are you trying to copy kurse1?
[10:53] <MajorPayne> PriceChild: Ohh, Amaranth: yea, sorry, lol.
[10:53] <levander> bain: Oh wait, you're not setting up the whole server, just a package.
[10:53] <kurse1> i want to copy two scripts from my home folder to a root folder /scripts
[10:54] <kurse1> i made the folder
[10:54] <bain> lancetw: yes ...
[10:54] <hexstar> ok, what does it say when you try the cp?
[10:54] <berent> why doen't amd give linux drivers for it's card?
[10:54] <kurse1> now i need to transfer the scripts there
[10:54] <levander> bain: Do you want to keep the configuration of the whole machines similar, or just package by package?
[10:54] <Oooops> if anyone know whosgaming server or ET or idsoft?  some trouble here under ubuntu.
[10:54] <levander> Oooops: just ask
[10:54] <zenum> hey, does anyone here have an nvidia 8500 or 8600 graphics card? I am thinking of getting one and just want to know if I can expect to get full 3d support with it in ubuntu?
[10:54] <bain> lancetw: I need to setup some packages with preset settings .. rather then asking for user input when apt-get installs them ..
[10:54] <amonkey> firefox locks up on me (about half of hte time) when i close a tab that has flash on it, what direction should i look in to find out why?
[10:54] <Flannel> Oooops: you might check the forums (ubuntuforums.org) there's a lot of stuff on ET
[10:54] <Oooops> but seems no one knows.
[10:54] <zenum> Or is there somewhere on the net which has a list of currently supported graphic cards?
[10:54] <kurse1> manually (graphically!) it says that i dont enjoy sufficient priviliges so i wanted to know the exact command to transfer files from one folder to another
[10:55] <hexstar> kurse1: ok whatdoes it say when you try the cp operation?
[10:55] <Oooops> ok.
[10:55] <hexstar> oh
[10:55] <levander> amonkey: Do you have flash installed?
[10:55] <levander> amonkey: I meant Flash 9 installed?
[10:55] <hexstar> try "su cp /soruce /dest"
[10:55] <kurse1> hex  - i dont know the copy command in linux... i guess that's my issue :)
[10:55] <Jordan_U> zenum, Nvidia provides great drivers ( though intel's are better... )
[10:55] <kurse1> ok
[10:55] <hexstar> cp is the command to copy
[10:55] <amonkey> levander, Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31
[10:55] <Jordan_U> !bash | kurse1
[10:55] <ubotu> kurse1: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:55] <levander> amonkey: From the Ubuntu repositories you installed that one?
[10:55] <berent> why doen't amd give linux drivers for it's inbuilt nvidia card?
[10:56] <bain> levander : I need to setup some packages with preset settings .. rather then asking for user input when apt-get installs them ..
[10:56] <hexstar> berent: why not try nvidia's drivers?
[10:56] <levander> berent: Because they don't feel like they'll make enough money doing that.
[10:56] <Jordan_U> kurse1, That should be a good guide if you want to learn more about how to use the terminal
[10:56] <amonkey> levander, it's from the repos yeah
[10:56] <zenum> Jordan_U: so pretty much any nvidia card should work fine with propriety drivers?
[10:56] <KaOS-bEat> hi all, overwrinting /bin/ sbin didn't work... -> reinstalling
[10:56] <hexstar> I would assume so zenum
[10:56] <reed026> I have lost sound in ubuntu, I tried turning up the mic from alsamixer. That didn't work. Then I tried the System -> preferences -> sound to correct that problem, and it did not work neither.
[10:56] <levander> bain: I don't know of a way to do that.  Why don't you try asking in #debian.  It's less of a basic end-user community in there.
[10:56] <Jordan_U> zenum, AFIK yes
[10:56] <PriceChild> zenum, 8***'s won't work well with the drivers in ubuntu
[10:56] <yinghao_> hi
[10:57] <kurse1> ok i'll read more into it, thanks for the help folks
[10:57] <kurse1> thanks alot!
[10:57] <levander> bain: Don't tell them you're using Ubuntu.
[10:57] <PriceChild> zenum, but will if you get the drivers from nvidia itself
[10:57] <hexstar> kurse1: np, glad to help :)
[10:57] <kurse1> yep, the command worked as well :)
[10:57] <zenum> Excellent :) I don't mind getting my hands dirty, as long as the end result includes pretty 3d shapes :)
[10:57] <hexstar> glad to her that :)
[10:57] <hexstar> kurse1
[10:57] <hexstar> *hear
[10:58] <hexstar> zenum: lol...never! All you'll ever get are blocky figures! :P
[10:58] <Jordan_U> bain, They really don't like Ubuntu users asking questions in #debian, I don't know how good that advice is...
[10:58] <yinghao_> can is ask you guys something?
[10:58] <hexstar> yes
[10:58] <yinghao_> is=i
[10:58] <bain> levander: thanks
[10:58] <levander> Jordan_U: what they don't know won't hurt them
[10:58] <berent> levander hexstar : anyways our ubuntu restricted drivers have  got it running . but it's restricted. i don't know why . all these mobos processors and graphic cards always have a deal with windows . well is there any linux oriented vendors.
[10:58] <yinghao_> i was wondering what's the best way to get latex up and running with ubuntu
[10:58] <hexstar> apt-get install latex
[10:59] <yinghao_> deosnt work
[10:59] <levander> Jordan_U: It would be different if he weren't asking the type of questions they talk about all the time.
[10:59] <Jordan_U> levander, But if they ask for output...
[10:59] <amonkey> levander, any idea?
[10:59] <hexstar> yinghao_: paste output to pastebin.com please
[10:59] <yinghao_> and i also like to get i working including a lot of latex packages
[10:59] <levander> Jordan_U: If they find out, they find out, it's not a big deal getting caught.  They may bitch, they may not.
[10:59] <yinghao_> hextar: how?
[10:59] <yeniklasor> Hi. How can I open ubuntu server edition's desktop?
[10:59] <hexstar> !paste | yinghao_
[10:59] <ubotu> yinghao_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:59] <Weiss> yinghao_: apt-cache search tetex and install some of those packages (can't remember which ones you need)
[11:00] <hexstar> I think apt-get install tetex* might work too
[11:00] <magnetron> yinghao_: install texmaker or winefish
[11:00] <sauvin> Berent, you are dealing with one of the few downsides of using Linux: hardware support can lag quite a bit behind Windows because most major manufacturers either fear giving away proprietary information or not garnering enough bottom-line profits.
[11:00] <yinghao_> ok
[11:00] <reed026> yeniklasor: Ubuntu Server does not have a GUI desktop
[11:00] <hexstar> lol
[11:00] <yinghao_> it seems i already have tetex
[11:01] <hexstar> that's good :)
[11:01] <reed026> You will need to install Xfce, GNOME or KDE
[11:01] <berent> sauvin : but we are paying the same money right?
[11:01] <yinghao_> but wich packages do i need to get it running
[11:01] <hexstar> I've gotta head to bed, later guys.
[11:01] <corevette> how do you find out the command to your router....to edit a firewall
[11:01] <sauvin> No. The major manufacturers would indeed appear to be in bed with MS.
[11:01] <berent> hexstar : to meet amaina :-))
[11:02] <hexstar> corevette: you can't unless your router can support ssh
[11:02] <hexstar> later
[11:02] <yinghao_> i think tetex extra and tetex base?
[11:02] <berent> sauvin : he he
[11:02] <magnetron> corevette: usually it's http://192.168.1.1/ or http://192.168.0.1/
[11:02] <corevette> but on windows
[11:02] <yeniklasor> reed026 : sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop ?
[11:02] <corevette> you can do ipconfig
[11:02] <corevette> why cant you do somehting like that on linux
[11:02] <sauvin> It may amuse you somewhat to learn that Vista apparently has horrendous hardware compatibility problems :D
[11:02] <Thursley> corevette, ifconfig
[11:02] <corevette> where does it say the router in ifconfig?
[11:03] <Thursley> corevette, aah, good point. Try 192.168.1.1 or 10.0.0.1
[11:03] <berent> sauvin : it is obvious if they try overdoing profits. they are going to get ripped off left and right.
[11:03] <PriceChild> corevette, from: Bcast:<ip here>
[11:03] <PriceChild> corevette, on the interface you're using
[11:03] <sauvin> Berent, no, it isn't.
[11:04] <PriceChild> oh wait
[11:04] <PriceChild> no
[11:04] <sauvin> How do you rip off a graphics card?
[11:04] <berent> sauvin : i was talking about windows vista
[11:04] <magnetron> corevette: it's called route
[11:04] <Tarsinion> Hi all ... ive just installed beryl and everything is working perfectly. Now i would like to change the theme but i can not start emerald via console: root@richard-laptop:/home/richard# emerald
[11:04] <Tarsinion> emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
[11:04] <sauvin> Oh, THAT. If its rep is at all deserved, it simply won't be popular for quite a while.
[11:04] <magnetron> corevette: type route in a terminal
[11:04] <Tarsinion> Any Idear ?
[11:05] <PriceChild> Tarsinion, #ubuntu-effects please
[11:05] <Tarsinion> :PrinceChild sorry! .. :-)
[11:06] <berent> sauvin : i changed proc mobo and ubuntu generic got everything running in seconds. i had to reconfigure vga and it was done.
[11:06] <tuna-fish> What was the bash command that told what kind of kernel is running?
[11:06] <sauvin> Congratulations. Do the same for Vista, please.
[11:06] <magnetron> tuna-fish: lsb_release -a
[11:06] <orbisvicis> !find sauerbraten
[11:06] <PriceChild> tuna-fish, uname -r
[11:06] <HEP85> Tarsinion: I think you shouldn't run it as root. Furthermore use --replace option, in case there is already a decorator running
[11:07] <ubotu> Package/file sauerbraten does not exist in feisty
[11:07] <bullgard4> /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko is not commented enough. Where is the function acpi_evaluate_object (line #146) defined?
[11:07] <PriceChild> tuna-fish, uname -a gives more actually...
[11:07] <Tarsinion> HEP85: let me try, thanks!
[11:07] <tuna-fish> Thanks
[11:07] <berent> sauvin : but i don't want to buy vista for so much money. it simply doesn't deserve
[11:08] <sauvin> And so you deal with linux' lagging hardware support, as do I. Is it worth it? I think so. YMMV.
[11:08] <magnetron> !support
[11:08] <ubotu> the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[11:09] <sauvin> Right now I'm busy downloading what would be several tens of thousands of dollars' worth of software from a site no DoJ weenie can ever shut down because none of it is commercial.
[11:09] <magnetron> !piracy
[11:09] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[11:10] <berent> sauvin : what is that? pm me . he he
[11:10] <sauvin> It's not piracy. I'm grabbing it from synaptics package manager.
[11:10] <sauvin> No special repositories.
[11:10] <magnetron> sauvin: nice
[11:10] <berent> magnetron : are you a capitalist?
[11:11] <magnetron> !o4o | berent
[11:11] <ubotu> berent: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[11:11] <Panic> I want to do some C programming on Ubuntu 7.04 with gcc, but it seems like the libraries are missing like stdio.h. Anyone know what I should do??
[11:11] <orbisvicis> !info sauerbraten
[11:11] <ubotu> Package sauerbraten does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:11] <Catoptromancy> mmm
[11:11] <Houdini_User> what is a good torrent client...to run in ubuntu?  im very comfortable with utorrent under windows
[11:11] <orbisvicis> explain : http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/games/sauerbraten
[11:11] <Catoptromancy> !openarena
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openarena - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <orbisvicis> oh, gutsy
[11:11] <Wiseguy> hey guys, has anyone ever used ViaVoice?
[11:11] <magnetron> Houdini_User: deluge
[11:11] <orbisvicis> !et
[11:11] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[11:11] <magnetron> !deluge | Houdini_User
[11:11] <ubotu> Houdini_User: deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[11:11] <sauvin> Panic, in a terminal window, do this: gcc -dumpver
[11:11] <Catoptromancy> very cool game in synaptic or add/remove
[11:12] <Houdini_User> cool..thanks  magnetron
[11:12] <Tarsinion> HEP85: thanks thats working .. but i'm not sure why it is working ;-)
[11:12] <berent> magentron : capitalism is related to software licensing. that's why i asked.
[11:12] <PriceChild> berent, You are offtopic for this channel. Please stop.
[11:12] <berent> ok
[11:13] <Panic> it says "gcc: no input files"
[11:13] <elTigre> Hi
[11:14] <elTigre> I'd like to have 3D acceleration on my external monitor that I have connected to a laptop (i810)
[11:14] <reed026> wow I figured out my sound problem. I'm so dumb. hahaha. I had it muted. Had to add volume control to my panel and unmute it :D
[11:14] <Panic> it is gcc 4.1, when I write --help
[11:15] <marmer> hy
[11:15] <elTigre> so far I haven't succeeded.... I set the resolution to 16 bit (although I have no way to figure out if it really is 16 bit)
[11:15] <sauvin> Panic, if you get that far, you have gcc installed, and therefore you DO have stdio.h.
[11:15] <Panic> ohh
[11:15] <marmer> in a terminal how can I see if i'm using ALSA or other. please
[11:16] <Tarsinion> HEP85: okay, you helped me a lot futher ... thanks and cu !
[11:16] <Panic> so how come when I do a "hallo world" program the compiler complains about stdio.h unknown?
[11:17] <magnetron> Panic: did you install the package build-essential?
[11:17] <marmer>   ?
[11:17] <RELO> OMG
[11:17] <Panic> I will check
[11:18] <bullgard4> After a cold boot Ubuntu 7.04 will display my OO.o Database not on workspace 4 but on workspace 1 although I have stored the session with Base on workspace 4. Another Ubuntu 7.04 computer does not make this error but its Ubuntu is no upgrade from 6.10.
[11:20] <RELO> FUCK FUCK FUCK why cant this program WORK?
[11:21] <PriceChild> !ohmy | RELO
[11:21] <ubotu> RELO: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:21] <IntuitiveNipple> Feisty 32-bit & gnome: after suspend or hibernate, many times there is no keyboard input to unlock gnome-screensaver, but there is if I switch to a new session, or switch to a terminal... any ideas how to solve it?
[11:23] <Jordan_U_> IntuitiveNipple, Do you have mouse input?
[11:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Jordan_U: Yes
[11:24] <IntuitiveNipple> I've checked a few launchpad bugs but none of them address this issue, it seems
[11:24] <IntuitiveNipple> Its intermittent too - about 7 times out of 10 it does this, the others, it works fine. So far the only work-around is to disable screen-locking on resume
[11:25] <ubutom> hi. i have a second x-server for playing videos, etc on my tv. xinerama is activated. can someone point me to the syntax i have to use to start a program on the second x-server, without dragging it over?
[11:27] <NetJackal> Hi all
[11:27] <gordonjcp> how do I find what package provides a particular file?
[11:27] <magnetron> ubutom: some apps accept the -display option
[11:28] <ubutom> ty magnetron
[11:28] <ubutom> will look into that :)
[11:28] <kagemaro> Anyone - I'm using an Intel HDA chipset (Realtek, Toshiba laptop) and the sound is really quiet - I have the newest ALSA driver and have set the type to intel-snd-hda; model to toshiba. PCM is on 100% in alsa mix, physical volume is 100% and volume on my program is 100%. I can't change the master volume (it just comes up at 00 on alsamix). The sound is PLAYING but less than 20% of the volume I get on Windows.
[11:29] <gsuveg> i cant install ispconfig to ubuntu, somone installed it ?
[11:30] <kursed> hey again, i am back with a new issue :)
[11:30] <marmer>     how can I turn off consoles tt3 tt4 tt5, in inittab
[11:30] <marmer> ?
[11:30] <kursed> i've just added a usb hdd to my computer and i am not being allowed to write on it, citing insufficient privelidges ...
[11:31] <stefg> !upstart | marmer, no inittab any more
[11:31] <ubotu> marmer, no inittab any more: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[11:31] <kursed> i can read from the hdd, but can't write on it, how can i correct that?
[11:31] <Jordan_U> kagemaro, Not sure if this will lead to any useful info but how load is it when you run this ( *warning could be very loud* ): cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[11:31] <marmer> !upstart
[11:31] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[11:32] <sauvin> Kursed, I can't remember precisely how to do that just now; I used to edit fstab, but that may be a mistake in modern flavours of linux :\
[11:32] <marmer> thank
[11:32] <kursed> sauvin, ah ok - it's just that i am newbie, never have used an OS other than Windows.
[11:32] <kursed> so i am having a hard time setting it up :)
[11:33] <kagemaro>  /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy, Jordan_U
[11:33] <Jordan_U> kagemaro, ?
[11:33] <sauvin> The command you want to look at is mount. At a terminal window, do an "info mount" (without the quotes)
[11:33] <Jordan_U> kagemaro, Close any programs that are playing anything
[11:34] <kismet> http://86.97.146.113:3389/phpsysinfo/ < could someone tell if that memory usage is normal
[11:34] <kagemaro> Jordan_U: Still the same message
[11:35] <Jordan_U> kagemaro, Basically what we are doing is sending a random stream of bits directly to your sound card, this won't work if anything else is trying to use it
[11:35] <kursed> sauvin, using the mount command with my hdd , it gives me the following error, can't find data2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:35] <kursed> can't find data2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:35] <HHP2K> Hey guys, I've got a little problem: the Bless Hex Editor checks for gmcs on ./confgure and says I don't have it. I installed mono, which is what I thought that was, but no luck. Anyone know what to do?
[11:35] <majorjrk> I got this digital cam, can copy every execept 2 movies at 20 and 60mb, everything else goes down, is this probably a limitation of my cam, or usb or something else wrong ?
[11:35] <stefg> kismet: see the value for Cache: 69% . this is healthy, the kernel takes your ram to good use
[11:36] <kismet> stefg, okay thankyou :)
[11:36] <kismet> its just scary seeing 98% being used :/
[11:36] <marmer> which is command line for upstart?
[11:36] <jayde_drag0n> okay i completely froze
[11:36] <kagemaro> Jordan_U, nothing else is using the sound card
[11:36] <jayde_drag0n> and finally after cleaning the disk.. now my computer is responsive
[11:36] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: What is the output from the command: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 | grep 'Default Amp-Out'
[11:36] <stefg> kismet: /unused/ ram is wasted ram :-) so the kernel is employing it for something useful
[11:37] <jayde_drag0n> can someone please paste the link to the ububtu paste thingy again?
[11:37] <CheesyMonkey> !paste | jayde_drag0n
[11:37] <ubotu> jayde_drag0n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:37] <Jordan_U> kagemaro, Something is, whether it is making sounds currently or not
[11:37] <jayde_drag0n> i will  thanks i'll be back in a minute
[11:37] <marmer> do you know
[11:38] <HHP2K> Hey guys, I've got a little problem: the Bless Hex Editor checks for gmcs on ./confgure and says I don't have it. I installed mono, which is what I thought that was, but no luck. Anyone know what to do?
[11:38] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple: Default Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
[11:38] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: haha! Houston, you have a problem :p
[11:39] <HEP85> kagemaro: type "fuser /dev/dsp" and you will be shown what is using the sound card
[11:39] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple: I don't understand how it can be muted, but the sound still plays?
[11:39] <kagemaro> HEP85 - fuser /dev/dsp returns nothing
[11:39] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: It isn't, thats the capability, but, all those zero's mean the default amp-out is the *wrong* one
[11:39] <runescaper> hi
[11:39] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: So, we need to work out which is the correct one and how to select it
[11:39] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple: Right... so how do I sort that out? x.x
[11:40] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple: I'm on a Toshiba Satellite A100-225 laptop
[11:40] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: You ask all the easy questions :D
[11:40] <Myrtti> kagemaro: you've used flash (youtube)?
[11:40] <kagemaro> Myrtti - yes, it was quiet
[11:40] <runescaper> does anyone here know any yogurt making recipes?
[11:40] <Myrtti> kagemaro: restart your browser
[11:40] <snowblink> 6.06 just got kernel updates?
[11:40] <Myrtti> kagemaro: the flash is probably still using the sound device
[11:41] <Myrtti> !offtopic | runescaper
[11:41] <ubotu> runescaper: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:41] <magnetron> runescaper: maybe someone in #ubuntu-offtopic does. please join us there
[11:41] <runescaper> ok where ?
[11:41] <marmer> does someone knows how i can turn-off tty1 tty2 etc..
[11:41] <marmer> virtualconsole i don't use often
[11:41] <jayde_drag0n> okay here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30419/   here is what i THOUGHT was my primary drive  /dev/hdg1    here is what occurs when i type the other stuff...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30420/   which is the stuff i'm following from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:42] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: Capture the output from the following command and put in in a pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for me: "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0"
[11:42] <kagemaro> Myrtti - did the random bits, wasnt loud
[11:42] <Rosskouk> hi, can anyone tell me how I can remove updates from the update manager without installing them? i'm running beryl-xgl so any updates break beryl.  Is this possible without disabling the universe reop?
[11:43] <stefg> marmer: first hit in *google* is https://answers.launchpad.net/upstart/+question/1984
[11:43] <sauvin> Oh, wow, I just noticed... ubuntu's virtual consoles WORK!
[11:43] <Myrtti> kagemaro: it doesn't matter if it was loud or not. If you've used flash with for example firefox, the flash process is probably still running and it uses your sounddevice, blocking it from other applications
[11:43] <jayde_drag0n> the 2 drives which are 80g.. are not the primary install,.... it should be my former c drive the 30gig drive... i installed windows on my G drive
[11:43] <Myrtti> kagemaro: actually it's firefox that's keeping the sound busy
[11:44] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple - brb
[11:44] <jayde_drag0n> i'm trying to be as thurough and as telling as i can be to help you help me
[11:44] <stefg> sauvin: indeed, ubuntu is (more or less) working OS :-)
[11:45] <sauvin> stefg, so is Fedora Core 6, but one of the few places it really stank on this machine was in wiping out virtual console capability because of some kind of graphics card driver issue.
[11:45] <jayde_drag0n> anyone?
[11:46] <stefg> sauvin: don't mention anything RPM based in here :-)
[11:46] <Myrtti> *blink*
[11:46] <lamechick> hi
[11:46] <sauvin> I'll buy that. I'm discovering there's a whole world out there in .deb format which makes it unnecessary for me to have to build any of my favourite stuff.
[11:47] <wib> hi, sometimes some devices won't work on start up. either, the sound card works fine but the usb wlan doesn't or the other way round. how can i fix that? (i'm new to linux and i'm excited that i got the usb wlan to work! but why not every time?)
[11:47] <lamechick> hi everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:47] <lamechick> do u play runescape ? if yes type 555
[11:48] <lamechick> lol
[11:48] <snowblink> Does anyone have a link to the security notice for the 6.06 kernel security update?
[11:48] <PriceChild> lamechick, that's not the way this channel works, and you are offtopic. #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:48] <stefg> wib, you might be suffering from acpi or irq issues with your motherboard. Have a look at the output of 'dmesg' (or put it !pastebin, if you want others to have alook)
[11:48] <stefg> !paste | wib
[11:48] <ubotu> wib: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:48] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple - Sorry about that, pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30422
[11:50] <wib> stefg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30423/
[11:51] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: give me a couple of minutes to analyse it
[11:51] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple - Sure
[11:51] <dissection> Are ports opened using Firestarter only temporary? What I mean to ask is if I close Firestarter, are those ports closed again as it were before?
[11:53] <jayde_drag0n> how do i unmount in ubuntu
[11:54] <Rosskouk> hi, can anyone tell me how I can remove updates from the update manager without installing them? i'm running beryl-xgl so any updates break beryl.  Is this possible without disabling the universe reop?
[11:54] <HEP85> dissection: I don't think so. It does not open ports. It is just a filter
[11:54] <stefg> wib: given the amount of peripherals, my guess is you are running out of irq, or you ISDN adaptor is misbehaving. Fist step would be to go to the bios and disable all the stuff you don't need. Often , for example, there are still LPT chips on the board,eating an IRQ, but no connector is on the outside. Same goes for floppy drives
[11:56] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: See this bug https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/93859 and then check out the link in comment #6 to the HdaIntelSoundHowTo
[11:56] <jayde_drag0n> okay some people were helping me before... and since i feel the need to say this.. i have been working on this issue for over 30 hrs... i'm pretty frustrated... i just need someone to help me with some simple commands... when someone does talk to me i'm quick to respond and do what yu ask of me... i just need some help... because at 30hrs i'm obviously not good enough to do this on my own
[11:56] <Jordan_U> !pin | Rosskouk
[11:56] <ubotu> Rosskouk: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[11:56] <wib> stefg, i see. i don't even need the isdn adapter... i'll try to turn some things off, bye
[11:56] <stefg> wib: rip it out then
[11:56] <jayde_drag0n> i am trying ... very unsuccessfully to reinstall grub
[11:56] <jayde_drag0n> i am trying to follow what people have sent me in links
[11:56] <jayde_drag0n> its not working
[11:56] <Jordan_U> jayde_drag0n, Do you have only one hard drive?
[11:56] <brrrt> hi all, is there a way to check via commandline if the cd-tray is open or closed ? something like cat /proc/blabla ??
[11:56] <jayde_drag0n> thank you
[11:57] <jayde_drag0n> no i have several
[11:57] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: "this is the entry that I appended to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to get the sound to work properly: options snd-hda-intel model=auto"
[11:57] <jayde_drag0n> but i know which drive ubuntu is on
[11:57] <jayde_drag0n> i think
[11:57] <jayde_drag0n> let me give you the url of my pasted outputs
[11:57] <sx66|PDA> hi
[11:57] <jayde_drag0n> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30419/
[11:57] <kagemaro> Thanks IntuitiveNipple - will I need to restart after?
[11:57] <jayde_drag0n> and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30420/
[11:58] <Rosskouk> ubotu: Thanks i'll have a look at that
[11:58] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: If you stop things using sound (e.g. close firefox) you can unload the snd-hda-intel module and reload it after setting the option
[11:58] <jayde_drag0n> i thought it was hdg1.. and i've apparantly sucessfully mounted that... but now i think i was supposed to mount just hdg
[11:58] <jayde_drag0n> and i can't figure out how to unmount
[11:58] <jayde_drag0n> it told me "unmount was not a command it recognized"
[11:58] <kamaci>  dont speak english more than :(   am sorry mm   need source turkish python  help :(
[11:58] <Jordan_U> jayde_drag0n, "umount"
[11:59] <jayde_drag0n> so no n
[11:59] <jayde_drag0n> umount not unmount
[11:59] <Jordan_U> Yes
[11:59] <jayde_drag0n> okay let me try that brb
[11:59] <sx66|PDA> 10min install xfce
[11:59] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: After stopping any apps using audio, try this from a console: "sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel" - if it comes back *without* reporting an error, you've managed to unload the module, then you can try "sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto" before making changes to the config files
[11:59] <jayde_drag0n> and am i correct that i should have mounted hdg and not hdg1?
[12:00] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: What I have just detailed is the *manual* way of doing things... if that works, then make the change to the configuration files so it is done every time your PC starts
[12:01] <Jordan_U> jayde_drag0n, No, you can not mount a drive ( hdg ) only a partition ( hdg1 ), and from the pastebin hdg1 is correct
[12:01] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: are you on Live CD now?
[12:01] <jayde_drag0n> okay
[12:01] <jayde_drag0n> yes on livecd now
[12:01] <jayde_drag0n> so then it is hdg1 that i should mount
[12:01] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: ope a terminal and enter sudo grub
[12:02] <jayde_drag0n> stefg i was told to mount the drives before i did just the grub command
[12:02] <jayde_drag0n> and mount the boot
[12:02] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: grub doesn't care if the drives are mounted, grub is a micro os, with its own ways
[12:02] <brrrt> i need a shell-command to read the cdrom's tray status, open/close , how can i do that?
[12:02] <jayde_drag0n> well i tried just going thru grub.. then i did the find command and got error 15
[12:03] <mattfletcher> is there an easy way of getting apt to tell you what packages you have installed since you installed the machine (ie, not the stock packages)?
[12:03] <Jordan_U> stefg, But having it mounted and using find from grub is the easiest way to be sure of the correct partition ( /dev/whatever != (hdx,x) )
[12:03] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: ok... so are are the grub-prompt, and enter 'find /boot/grub/stage1' what do you get?
[12:04] <Jordan_U> stefg, Oh, you don't even need it mounted to do that?
[12:04] <stefg> Jordan_U: no, as said earlier. grub lives in its own universe
[12:04] <jayde_drag0n> okay hang on
[12:05] <mattfletcher> i've seen dpkg --get-selections but that tells you even the base install packages too
[12:05] <TheRiddler> Hey All, I just Installed Linux, it Auto-Updated, then I installed some more stuff, can I still upgrade?  If so, how?
[12:05] <IntuitiveNipple> mattfletcher: You can look in the history of Synaptics, it lists by date, but I'm not sure how to do that from a console
[12:06] <jayde_drag0n> "probing devices"
[12:06] <jayde_drag0n> waiting\
[12:06] <TheRiddler> Hmm, Ubuntu 6.06 to be more specific
[12:06] <mattfletcher> IntuitiveNipple: GUI is an option here, where would I find that
[12:06] <nztxqhpd> Do
[12:06] <zhvfbfae> Do
[12:06] <xwcmlofj> Do
[12:06] <zhvfbfae> Do
[12:06] <nztxqhpd> Do
[12:06] <xwcmlofj> Do
[12:06] <Jordan_U> TheRiddler, And you want to upgrade to Feisty?
[12:06] <CheesyMonkey> !ops
[12:06] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[12:07] <CheesyMonkey> Never mind :) They stopped sorry guys
[12:07] <IntuitiveNipple> mattfletcher: I seem to recall its on the first menu in Synaptics
[12:07] <TheRiddler> If possible, or if it's recomended
[12:07] <CheesyMonkey> PriceChild, Sorry mate :)
[12:07] <Amaranth_> !staff
[12:07] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[12:07] <mattfletcher> IntuitiveNipple: thanks, i will take a look when i have gui access then
[12:07] <jayde_drag0n> still waiting
[12:08] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: so you don't have a separate /boot partition, do you?
[12:08] <IntuitiveNipple> mattfletcher: lemme just see if I can find where it gets its list from... probably somewhere live /var/cache/apt or similar
[12:08] <jayde_drag0n> i don't know... what did my pasted output say?
[12:08] <TheRiddler> Sorry, I am way too use to mIRC
[12:08] <jayde_drag0n> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30419/
[12:08] <ubuntu__> helooo
[12:08] <cxslwlmz> j00
[12:08] <cxslwlmz> j00
[12:08] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: nothing of dignostic value, to be honest. but never mind, we'll find out
[12:09] <jayde_drag0n> okee dokee
[12:09] <TiMiDo> !java
[12:09] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:09] <ubuntu__> geerg
[12:09] <PriceChild> Thankyou CheesyMonkey
[12:09] <Jordan_U> ubuntu__, Yes?
[12:09] <TheRiddler> So should I upgrade from 6.06?
[12:09] <rolfen> I have a problem with my DVD, can anyone help?
[12:10] <rolfen> Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it.
[12:10] <jayde_drag0n> how loong does it take to probe these lovely devices.
[12:10] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: so you've installed ubuntu to a removable drive and now need that drive to be present to be able to boot your machine?
[12:10] <CheesyMonkey> PriceChild, I actually thought I overreacted, cause they stopped XD
[12:10] <jayde_drag0n> no my problems are longer but simpler than that
[12:10] <jayde_drag0n> let me break it down
[12:10] <ubuntu__> full game music mininova.org
[12:10] <rolfen> AFAIK i have them pludings installed unless i missed something
[12:10] <jayde_drag0n> gimme a minute to type
[12:10] <PriceChild> !piracy | ubuntu__
[12:10] <ubotu> ubuntu__: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[12:11] <dissection> !o4o
[12:11] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[12:11] <ubuntu__> linux cool
[12:11] <ubuntu__> no
[12:11] <dissection> lol @ space travel
[12:11] <Jordan_U> TheRiddler, I would, but if it's a new install it might be faster to just install Feisty rather than update to edgy then feisty
[12:11] <ubuntu__> thanks
[12:11] <Gasten> Hey, how do I delete a podcast-sream from rhythmbox?
[12:12] <skollie> rolfen: appears to be a codecs problem
[12:12] <dissection> !apache
[12:12] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:12] <IntuitiveNipple> mattfletcher: It seems the history is specific to Synaptic
[12:12] <TheRiddler> Okay, and can you tell me the way to add KDE to Ubuntu, or what package is required
[12:13] <jayde_drag0n> i decided .. yesterday to screwq it all and i wanted ubuntu... so i popped in my live cd and installed ubuntu ... i have 4 drives ZIM: C formerly windows... internal  DIB: video storage 80g internal   ARMADA: music storage internal  GAZ: now has windows.. i'll get to that in a minute.. internal 40g   GIR: backup storage 300g external
[12:13] <nos> linux ubuntu cool
[12:13] <dissection> !ftp
[12:13] <geem> ftp://meklort.isa-geek.com user:star + pass:star
[12:13] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[12:13] <TheRiddler> I had it so both Gnome and KDE were on here before
[12:13] <stefg> !kde | TheRiddler
[12:13] <ubotu> TheRiddler: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[12:13] <Amaranth> Gasten: right click on the feed
[12:13] <nos> ftp://meklort.isa-geek.com
[12:13] <nos> mailto:n=aufegu@211.45.66.202
[12:13] <dissection> What is a good application to setup an FTP server?
[12:13] <stefg> !ftp
[12:13] <geem> ftp://meklort.isa-geek.com user:star + pass:star
[12:13] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[12:13] <TheRiddler> Alright everyone
[12:13] <dissection> No, not clients
[12:13] <Amaranth> !fp
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <TheRiddler> Thanks for your time
[12:13] <nos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[12:13] <stefg> !ftpd
[12:13] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[12:14] <dissection> Cool
[12:14] <dissection> :D
[12:14] <Amaranth> !ftp
[12:14] <geem> ftp://meklort.isa-geek.com user:star + pass:star
[12:14] <Gasten> Amaranth: What's supposed to happen? I'm using Edgy, so I'm not totally up to date.
[12:14] <TiMiDo> !flash
[12:14] <rolfen> skollie: i have gstreamer0.8-dvd installed
[12:14] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:14] <Amaranth> Gasten: should give you some options
[12:14] <skollie> !codecs | rolfen
[12:14] <ubotu> rolfen: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:14] <tuna-fish> does anyone know a system tray for gtk that can have multiple rows?
[12:14] <jayde_drag0n> after installing i wanted read write permissions on armada and dib... so after searching.. i installed ntfsconfig.... and followed instructions... then it unmounted the drive and told me i no longer had anuy permissions... great.. figured out how to loginto root... couldn't mount them... it said i needed to reboot into windows because it was shut down improperly... didn't have that and in my search to do this ntfsfix..was told to un
[12:14] <Amaranth> Gasten: "Delete Podcast Feed"
[12:14] <Gasten> Amaranth: Yes, but none of them is "delete this feed"
[12:15] <jayde_drag0n> soooo after crying
[12:15] <Amaranth> Gasten: but i'm using gutsy so i don't know when that was added
[12:15] <jayde_drag0n> i installed windows onto the former GAZ drive
[12:15] <Seoke> Anyone know of any good RPGs for Linux?
[12:15] <jayde_drag0n> and now i need to reinstall grub so i can get into ubuntu so i can see my dang drives
[12:15] <rolfen> skollie: thanks...
[12:16] <Gasten> Amaranth: You know where the config is ?
[12:16] <jayde_drag0n> but... i think i just reinstalled grub sucessfully.... soooo gimme 10 minutes to pop the cdout and reboot and see if i have it
[12:16] <jayde_drag0n> and either way.. i'll be back to tell you results
[12:16] <Gasten> Amaranth: so I can dlete it manually.
[12:16] <mattfletcher> IntuitiveNipple: no worries, i'll check tonight
[12:17] <IntuitiveNipple> mattfletcher: Good luck... I'm not sure if it captures history if Synaptics wasn't used
[12:17] <Amaranth> Gasten: you have to manually remove it from ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml
[12:17] <Amaranth> Gasten: not a fun task
[12:17] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: ok, 1.) Don't Panic! 2.) let's get an intermixed bunch of issues nicely sorted aout. 3.) solve one by one. We'll start at fixing grub
[12:17] <dsl1248> yeah
[12:17] <dissection> !GProftpd
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gproftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <IntuitiveNipple> mattfletcher: There is a sneaky way... all new installed packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives/ - you could just list those :)
[12:17] <dissection> !vsftpd
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vsftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <Amaranth> stefg: he left :/
[12:18] <Amaranth> sleepy time for me
[12:18] <stefg> Amaranth: yeh, noticed... better he gets some sleep before fixing his box :-)
[12:18] <Gasten> Amaranth: know. But he feed is faulty. I have to do it.
[12:19] <Amaranth> Gasten: if you're not too worried about your song ratings and playlists you could just remove the whole file
[12:19] <dsl1248> what's better than audacity
[12:19] <stefg> !jokosher
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jokosher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <wib> stefg, thank you! it kind of works now. (but it seems to me, that i have to have the usb-wlan plus another usb-device that has to be turned off on start up, weird)
[12:19] <Gasten> Amaranth: We'll see what I do.l
[12:19] <skollie> dsl1248: to do what?
[12:20] <rolfen> my dvd is mounted and this is the mount entry:
[12:20] <Gasten> dsl1248: depends on what you want.
[12:20] <rolfen> /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=rolf)
[12:20] <rolfen> is everything normal?
[12:20] <rolfen> shouldnt the dvd be mounted as something else then iso9660?
[12:20] <Gasten> dsl1248: jokosher is good for garage band-stuff, ardour for professional stuff, rosegarden for lots of midi etc.
[12:20] <kagemaro> Thanks guys, sound's working :D
[12:20] <stefg> wib: sometimes device names change, depending on which interface comes up first. look at /etc/iftab
[12:20] <dsl1248> I want something like adobe audition
[12:21] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: Was it the model=auto option?
[12:21] <Gasten> dsl1248: dont know what audition is like.
[12:21] <kagemaro> Yes
[12:21] <Gasten> dsl1248: but audacity is very good.
[12:21] <skollie> !ubuntu-studio | dsl1248
[12:21] <ubotu> dsl1248: ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[12:21] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: cool... nice when a bug report has a solution too
[12:21] <kagemaro> Anyone - does Cakewalk Sonar work with wine?
[12:21] <dsl1248> not sure
[12:21] <dsl1248> does wine work with wine?!
[12:21] <stefg> kagemaro: #winehq and check wine app database
[12:22] <dsl1248> it's "experimental"
[12:22] <dsl1248> audacity is good, but it's a little slow
[12:22] <wib> stefg, iftab: eth0 mac 00:0b:6a:3c:fe:d1 arp 1, i don't know what that means. i'm using wlan over usb, that's not the mac address of the usb device.
[12:23] <dhilip89> hello
[12:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Any ideas on how to fix Feisty 32-bit where when doing a suspend, it resumes immediately? (no clues so far in the logs or monitoring /etc/acpi/sleep.sh, or unloading various 'known' modules)
[12:24] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple - yeah it's good, because it's a great soundcard for onboard/laptop
[12:24] <Seoke> Can anyone tell me how to install the Unreal Tournament .run file on my computer?
[12:24] <stefg> wib: iftab makes sure that every network adapter (identified by his mac address) gets always the same inetrface name (like eth0 or ra0 or whatever)
[12:24] <wib> stefg, so shouldn't wlan0 be in there?
[12:24] <wib> i'm using ndiswrapper, maybe it's different?
[12:25] <IntuitiveNipple> kagemaro: Yeah... I just fixed another bug with it and Feisty that causes looping of sound after resume from suspend... turned out to be a bug in the mainline kernel with late boot of non-boot CPUs
[12:25] <HEP85> Seoke: open a terminal and type the name of the .run file to run it
[12:25] <Gasten> Amaranth: seemed to be pretty easy to strip it out. open in gedit --> search for a keyword in the title and stripped out the entry typed "podcast-feed" I'm pretty sure it'll work.
[12:25] <mtappenden> Hi all
[12:26] <dsl1248> do yall ever /off
[12:26] <mtappenden> Can anyone recommend a decent ADSL wireless modem router?
[12:26] <Seoke> HEP85: Dont I need to chmod it for exec then sh run it?
[12:26] <younghacker> where would something downloaded using wget be found at?
[12:26] <mtappenden> We've been using Netgear DG834Ts, but they die after 6-9 months and we have to get a new one
[12:26] <stefg> wib: not sure, i was just a rough gist that your issues are related to floating interface names. http://everflux.de/ubuntu-reihenfolge-der-netzwerkkarten-140/
[12:26] <HEP85> Seoke: Why are you asking when you already know how it works?
[12:26] <kagemaro> mtappenden - try Belkin
[12:26] <IntuitiveNipple> younghacker: whatever directory you were in when running wget
[12:26] <Seoke> HEP85: Because I just saw it on the forum xD a
[12:27] <rolfen> what do you call a fully working ubuntu install
[12:27] <HEP85> Seoke: the forum is right
[12:27] <Seoke> HEP85: Thanks
[12:27] <dsl1248> can anyone vouch for the Ubuntu Powerpc version?
[12:27] <mtappenden> kagemaro: What experience do you have with them? We had their 802.11g PCI cards , in about 10 computers, and they all packed up after 3 months, which put us off their networking stuff.
[12:27] <HEP85> Seoke: np
[12:27] <IntuitiveNipple> mtappenden: Is it the power-brick that fails, or the entire unit? We used to have a stock of power-bricks
[12:27] <younghacker> oh
[12:27] <younghacker> IntuitiveNipple: Thanks I'll check there
[12:27] <stefg> !ppc | dsl1248
[12:27] <ubotu> dsl1248: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[12:27] <kagemaro> mtappenden - I have had my Belkin router for 2 years, and been using their network cards for the same time period
[12:28] <mtappenden> IntuitiveNipple: On one of the ones we've had it was the power brick, but generally they just start dropping out and have to be unplugged and plougged in again every hour or two
[12:28] <dsl1248> ubotu, what is the tempurature outside?
[12:28] <kagemaro> !computers
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about computers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <younghacker> cool found it,, whats the command to unzip a tar.gz file?
[12:28] <stefg> dsl1248: please stop the useless chatter
[12:29] <IntuitiveNipple> mtappenden: When it does that have you tried a new power-brick with it? We often found power starvation was the issue, *especially* with dropouts
[12:29] <mtappenden> Ah, my Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows is downloaded, time to see if it looks legit, last one I tried was most definitely fake.
[12:29] <mc44> !piracy | mtappenden
[12:29] <ubotu> mtappenden: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[12:29] <kagemaro> mtappenden - if its legit, PM me the URL?
[12:29] <IntuitiveNipple> NetGear used to send us a box of replacement bricks so we always had some good to go :)
[12:29] <dsl1248> useless bot chatter?
[12:30] <T-Connect> Brb
[12:30] <dsl1248> com on people
[12:30] <`Over`> Bonjour
[12:30] <jrib> younghacker: right click -> extract, or 'tar xf file.tar.gz'
[12:30] <mtappenden> IntuitiveNipple: Well, we have been using the same power brick with all the ones we've had, over the last few years (too lazy to move all the cabling) and whenever we replace it, it's fine for 9 months or so, so I don't think that's the issue.
[12:30] <mtappenden> kagemaro: Sure, I'll have a look
[12:30] <simone> hi , I have a strange issue.. I can't empty the Trash
[12:30] <kagemaro> !fr | `Over`
[12:30] <ubotu> `Over`: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:30] <IntuitiveNipple> mtappenden: interesting you say 9 months - thats about the lifetime we had for our bricks before replacement :)
[12:30] <simone> I've also tried with ... sudo rm -rv ~/.Trash/*
[12:30] <`Over`> Thank you ubotu i'm new
[12:30] <dsl1248> why are you guys so sensitive! relax!!!!
[12:31] <HEP85> simone: what error did it give?
[12:31] <stefg> !traffic | dsl1248
[12:31] <ubotu> dsl1248: NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[12:31] <mtappenden> When it drops out, the lights are still on, it just doesn't work, and we just pull the cord out the back and shove it straight back in.
[12:31] <CheesyMonkey> dsl1248, Most people will say...theres alot of chatter going on in here, and they really dont need useless rubbish being typed
[12:31] <IntuitiveNipple> mtappenden: The other thing, have you talked to NetGear about this? We found them really responsive on sorting things out, sending replacement kit on approval, etc.
[12:31] <dsl1248> you are a doucher
[12:31] <simone> HEP85 : no such file or directory
[12:32] <CheesyMonkey> !attitude | dsl1248
[12:32] <ubotu> dsl1248: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:32] <wib> stefg, why is eth0 even in iftab? i have no network devices in my pc anymore. i don't think there is a device with the mac address specified, can i find out?
[12:32] <mc44> dsl1248: please don't start insulting people
[12:32] <mtappenden> IntuitiveNipple: No... We just want something that's gonna work.
[12:32] <jrib> dsl1248: please be respectful of others here and stay on-topic
[12:32] <dsl1248> get a bigger monitor
[12:32] <kagemaro> Anyone - what gnutella client would you recommend?
[12:32] <dsl1248> i am being respectful
[12:32] <IntuitiveNipple> mtappenden: That sounds like what we experienced... unexplained dropouts, everything looks fine, web interface works, etc, but cycling power would restart it... I was told once it is due to the small low-quality capacitors in the bricks.
[12:32] <stefg> wib: lspci ... you might have an integrated nic in your mobo chipset
[12:32] <jrib> kagemaro: gtk-gnutella or frostwire
[12:32] <kagemaro> dsl1248 - I use 2048x1536, doesn't mean I want to read crap in the chat
[12:32] <dsl1248> did you define the respectfullness
[12:32] <wib> stefg, no, i turned it off
[12:33] <stefg> wib, yeah, in the bios... the kernel is smarter than the bios :-)
[12:33] <dsl1248> you guys are acting like a bunch of whining 7th graders
[12:33] <Juhaz> !ops
[12:33] <HEP85> simone: does it show up when running "ls ~ -a"?
[12:33] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[12:33] <mtappenden> IntuitiveNipple: That's really weird. As I said, we never change the brick when we buy a new router...
[12:33] <T-Connect> How I get 7-zip to work?
[12:34] <HEP85> simone: I mean the .Trash folder. Maybe the whole folder got deleted instead of its contents
[12:34] <dhilip89> hello, i had a problem with firefox browser on ubuntu
[12:34] <IntuitiveNipple> mtappenden: We've used all the common and not-so-common manufacturers and they all suffer from these issues from time to time... its rather like the hard disk issues of a few years ago... first one manufacturer then another, you didn't know where to turn!
[12:34] <jrib> !7zip > T-Connect (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:34] <younghacker> how do i unzip the tar.gz file
[12:34] <jrib> younghacker: I told you
[12:34] <younghacker> really
[12:34] <younghacker> let me back track sorry
[12:34] <PriceChild> younghacker, btw you don't unzip tars
[12:34] <younghacker> well sorry
[12:34] <younghacker> decompress
[12:34] <str0> i have 1 AGP and 1 PCI video card in my system but it is making the PCI default and using it in feisty to drive both monitors ...can anyone here help me set the BIOS IRQ options so that the APG is the default card ?
[12:34] <younghacker> ?
[12:34] <wib> stefg, oh well, it works now... thanks for that. i'll try to fix it on my own. bye!
[12:34] <younghacker> is that the correct way
[12:35] <mtappenden> Yeah, it's a right pain, it costs an absolute fortune to keep replacing them
[12:35] <IntuitiveNipple> if it's a gz, he gunzips it !
[12:35] <younghacker> oh
[12:35] <younghacker> lol
[12:35] <dsl1248> don't you mean g-unzips it
[12:35] <IntuitiveNipple> if it's a tar.gz you do tar -xzf <filename>
[12:35] <mtappenden> We were looking at maybe buying an industrial grade one, and over 5 years it'd easily pay for itself the amount we're spending, but they're all huge and complicated
[12:35] <younghacker> IntuitiveNipple: thanX
[12:35] <dhilip89> my firefox browser couldn't render properly for some pages
[12:36] <younghacker> thanX again everyone
[12:36] <PriceChild> IntuitiveNipple, you unzip zips... you untar tars
[12:36] <dhilip89> this is the screenshot: http://dhilip89.hopto.org/pictures/linux/Screenshot.png
[12:36] <younghacker> ill probably be asking more questions, i had to reinstall and i had all my notes on commands saved in tomboy notes
[12:36] <younghacker> they were my backup
[12:36] <younghacker> =)
[12:36] <mc44> PriceChild: theres a song in there somewhere :)
[12:36] <dhilip89> and another is: http://dhilip89.hopto.org/pictures/linux/Screenshot-1.png
[12:36] <PriceChild> mc44, doop de doo
[12:36] <IntuitiveNipple> PriceChild: I gunzip gz's, which was what younghacker asked
[12:37] <dsl1248> stop wasting space witbh your :)
[12:37] <dimebar> PriceChild: if I stare at it for ages will I see a rude picture?
[12:37] <mc44> PriceChild: to the tune of the hokey pokey
[12:37] <dsl1248> not related to this chatroom
[12:37] <bullgard4> Using the 'Create_Launcher' dialog I created a panel applet. It works all right. What is the filename of this Launcher?
[12:37] <T-Connect> The problem is that I can't use 7-zip. :(
[12:37] <PriceChild> dsl1248, please move on
[12:37] <CheesyMonkey> Thank you PriceChild
[12:38] <dsl1248> worry about yo' selves
[12:38] <younghacker> is tar.gz the same as .tgz?
[12:38] <Myrtti> younghacker: yes
[12:38] <younghacker> thanX
[12:38] <dhilip89> nobody can answer me ?
[12:38] <SS2> oberchecker: hey oberchecker, this is the wrong room ;)
[12:38] <jrib> !please > dhilip89 (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:38] <mattfletcher> dsl1248, i think we can allow the occasional pun when directly related to an ongoing thread
[12:38] <dsl1248> you are so on the ball! wow!
[12:38] <mrigns> who's responsible for the qt4 backport in feisty? It seems to have broken the systray icons of qt4 apps like last.fm player and skype
[12:39] <mrigns> I want a duel!
[12:39] <PriceChild> dsl1248, please stop...
[12:39] <PriceChild> mrigns, you too
[12:39] <PriceChild> mrigns, oh sorry ignore me :)
[12:39] <mrigns> lol
[12:39] <rolfen> ubuntu=half baked
[12:39] <mc44> mrigns: file a bug ;)
[12:39] <dhilip89> !repeat
[12:39] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:39] <jrib> dhilip89: weird, does it happen on other pages?
[12:39] <mc44> rolfen: please don't troll
[12:39] <rolfen> okay then
[12:39] <dsl1248> i guess im not smart enough for you, fine. i'll never say anything ever again.
[12:40] <stefg> jrib, dhilip89 : this seems to be the router admin page, look at the ip
[12:40] <dhilip89> yes
[12:40] <T-Connect> Cannot open RPGM_XP.rar
[12:40] <dhilip89> it appear on some website too
[12:40] <mrigns> the problem is I'm not 100% percent sure about the backport being the source of the bug
[12:41] <jrib> T-Connect: did you install 'unrar' from multiverse?
[12:41] <mattfletcher> dsl1248, lurking in a room moaning whenever the subject strays even slightly off course doesn't help anyone. as a thriving community we need to be able to have a laugh. a one-line joke "there's a song in there somewhere" isn't the end of the world
[12:41] <dhilip89> it has no problem on my windows machine with firefox or other browser
[12:41] <T-Connect> Nope just 7-zip
[12:41] <mattfletcher> oh. after all that rant, he's gone
[12:41] <jrib> T-Connect: I think you need 'unrar' for rar files.  Give it a try
[12:42] <stefg> dhilip89: check in firefox' options which default charset it uses. try utf-8 or iso 8859-1
[12:42] <T-Connect> 7-zip should work. It seem broken
[12:42] <jayde_drag0n> nope
[12:42] <jayde_drag0n> both times.. just went back into windows
[12:42] <eBoxNet> hello..
[12:43] <T-Connect> unrar isn't free?
[12:43] <defrysk> T-Connect, nope
[12:43] <Myrtti> T-Connect: free as in beer, yes.
[12:43] <mtappenden_> Who was interested in Harry Potter? It's legit, but it's photos of the pages, hard to read.
[12:43] <jrib> T-Connect: the description for p7zip just mentions 7z and 7za compression.  unrar isn't free in the sense that it is proprietary
[12:43] <jayde_drag0n> and weirdly find /boot/grub/stage1  gave the output of hd3,0  not on hd0
[12:43] <jrib> !offtopic | mtappenden_
[12:43] <ubotu> mtappenden_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:44] <mtappenden_> Yeah man
[12:44] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: that's logical, if your root is on /dev/sdg
[12:44] <T-Connect> Can I use wine with 7-zip?
[12:44] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: lead the way obe-wan... help me fix this so i can finally goto sleep
[12:44] <jrib> T-Connect: why... just use unrar to open rar files
[12:45] <T-Connect> 7-zip is free.
[12:45] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: lol... open terminal, sudo grub,
[12:45] <HEP85> T-Connect: There is unrar-free, but it can't handle RAR 3.0
[12:45] <jrib> T-Connect: rar is a proprietary format anyway
[12:45] <jayde_drag0n> okay
[12:45] <jayde_drag0n> alien probe... commencing
[12:45] <mrigns> people who encountered the same problem with qt4 systray icon transparency broken by the recent qt4 backportto feisty can confirm the bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/125757
[12:45] <HEP85> T-Connect: There is unrar-free, but it can't handle RAR 3.0
[12:45] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: enter find /boot/grub/stage1 again
[12:46] <aleksanteri> anyone got repositories to newer versions of software? for example would need gcc 4.2 which isn't in the standard repositoy
[12:46] <T-Connect> Which ones? http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm
[12:46] <jayde_drag0n> (hd3,0)
[12:46] <HEP85> T-Connect: Sorry for double post. Did you install p7zip?
[12:46] <dhilip89> the encoding is depend on the page
[12:46] <T-Connect> Yep
[12:46] <T-Connect> It broken
[12:46] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: root (hd3,0)
[12:46] <jayde_drag0n> i just did that
[12:46] <jrib> T-Connect: nah, use synaptic to install the "unrar" package
[12:46] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: setup  (hd3)
[12:46] <jayde_drag0n> before i came back
[12:46] <jayde_drag0n> it just went to windows
[12:47] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: ah, wait!
[12:47] <jayde_drag0n> exactly how your telling me
[12:47] <jayde_drag0n> i missed a step?
[12:47] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: grub needs to be in the MBR of hd0, regardless where ubuntu is installed
[12:47] <leo|term> Problem: I want to make /web/scripts/fix_stuff available from anywhere. Someone told me to PATH="$PATH:/web/scripts"; export PATH, is this correct and i will be able to type fix_stuff anywhere to run the script?
[12:47] <stefg> so it's setup (hd0)
[12:47] <jayde_drag0n> yes exactly.. so why are we setting it to hd3?
[12:47] <jayde_drag0n> oh
[12:47] <jayde_drag0n> got it
[12:48] <linux_user400354> what is feisty backports? does anyone know what a backport is?
[12:48] <jayde_drag0n> okay so root (hd3,0)    then setup (hd0)
[12:48] <T-Connect> unrar-free?
[12:48] <jayde_drag0n> yes?
[12:48] <jrib> T-Connect: unrar-free is useless.  Use "unrar".  It doesn't cost anything
[12:48] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: so it's root(hd3,0) telling grub where its menu.lst is. then setup (hd0) to actually write grub with this pointer to the MBR of the first hd
[12:49] <jayde_drag0n> okay it said succeded
[12:49] <jayde_drag0n> reboot now?
[12:49] <stefg> jayde, type quit. reboot and check
[12:49] <jrib> leo|term: yes, put that in /etc/environment if it's for everyone or in the appropriate file in your HOME directory if it's just for your user
[12:50] <jayde_drag0n> okee dokee *holds breath* i'll be back with results no matter what
[12:50] <aricz> Humm, both my CD-rom and DVD-rom stopped working.. anyone know how to try fixing this?
[12:50] <T-Connect> Damn it. I can't use that ether?
[12:51] <jrib> T-Connect: can't use what?
[12:51] <dhilip89> maybe the problem is caused by after I installed various types of font
[12:51] <T-Connect> unrar
[12:51] <jrib> T-Connect: you can, why do you say you can't?
[12:51] <HEP85> T-Connect: What about p7zip-full? The program supports 7z (that implements LZMA compression
[12:51] <HEP85> algorithm), ZIP, Zip64, CAB, RAR, ARJ, GZIP, BZIP2, TAR, CPIO, RPM, ISO
[12:51] <HEP85> and DEB formats
[12:51] <T-Connect> I don't know what to do.
[12:51] <jrib> T-Connect: have you enabled multiverse?
[12:52] <T-Connect> ???
[12:52] <jrib> !multiverse > T-Connect (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:52] <adzmanizam> hi all
[12:53] <golam> hi guys
[12:53] <T-Connect> That not going to help me.
[12:53] <daya> how to identify which video card is installed in my pcd
[12:53] <daya> pc,
[12:53] <SlimeyPete> daya: lspci
[12:53] <jrib> T-Connect: why not?  You need to enable multiverse to install "unrar"
[12:53] <stefg> daya: lspci | grep VGA
[12:53] <leo|term> ok thx jrib  :)
[12:53] <ikonia> jrib ?
[12:53] <T-Connect> What is multiverse?
[12:53] <ikonia> what are you doing in here
[12:54] <adzmanizam> hi all
[12:54] <golam> anybody know what is the command to write data into a blank CD
[12:54] <stefg> golam: cdrecord
[12:54] <jrib> T-Connect: it's a repository.  The page ubotu linked you to explains in detail
[12:54] <jrib> ikonia: hi
[12:54] <SlimeyPete> golam: cdrecord but you'll need to build an iso first IIRC
[12:54] <dhilip89> multiverse is non-free packages
[12:54] <ikonia> jrib he, I'll catup with you in #gold later
[12:54] <T-Connect> I'm not going to read all that.
[12:54] <golam> hmm thanks let me try
[12:54] <stefg> golam: so it's a combo of mkisofs and cdrecord, to be more precise
[12:55] <T-Connect> Headace
[12:55] <daya> stefg, thanks
[12:55] <g[r] eek> hi ive logged into my ubuntu box via putty. i want to change the font colours (permanently, so that when i reload putty the colour changes persist). ideas?
[12:55] <golam> sorry I did not understand
[12:55] <g[r] eek> i'm looking for some kind of file where i set font colours. for example, links in my file system, executable files, folders, all have different colours.
[12:56] <stefg> !k3b | golm
[12:56] <ubotu> golm: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[12:56] <g[r] eek> i want to change these
[12:56] <stefg> !k3b | golam
[12:56] <ubotu> golam: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[12:56] <jrib> T-Connect: ok, well those two pages tell you how to enable multiverse
[12:56] <pacoloco> I need you help with amarok, don't reproduce mp3
[12:56] <SlimeyPete> golam: you're better off using a grphical program such as k3b
[12:56] <golam> I am usung gnome
[12:56] <T-Connect> It should be enabled on default settings
[12:56] <Dusk_> how can i remove the sda1 sda2 icons from my desktop???
[12:56] <T-Connect> Why mess with it?
[12:56] <jrib> T-Connect: no, it can't be because it's non-free
[12:56] <SlimeyPete> golam: you can run k3b on gnome.
[12:57] <SlimeyPete> it works fine
[12:58] <asc> Out of curiosity, under what circumstances would part of a partition be in the MBR area?
[12:58] <T-Connect> Why are the words small on the snapshots?
[12:58] <T-Connect> I can't read those.
[12:58] <stefg> asc: under the condition of a foobar'd partition table
[12:58] <golam> I have just installed k3b ... let me try it
[12:58] <Dusk_> how can i remove the sda1 sda2 icons from my desktop???
[12:59] <T-Connect> I give up.
[12:59] <jrib> !icons > Dusk_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:59] <geoaxis> hello people
[12:59] <jrib> Dusk_: either don't mount them to /media or change the gconf key ubotu told you about with gconf-editor
[12:59] <geoaxis> my mic still aint working
[12:59] <dhilip89> i had a problem again, my max screen resolution only has 800x600 after i installed nvidia-glx-legacy
[12:59] <Dusk_> !icons
[12:59] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[12:59] <jrib> T-Connect: system -> administration -> software sources is all the page says...
[01:00] <asc> stefg: Hmm. No way it should happen under normal circumstances, then?
[01:00] <DarKnesS_WolF> if i have ht prcoc. i should use linux-image-server but in proc i can see only one cpu is that normal ??
[01:00] <g[r] eek> hi can anyone help me change the font colours in my terminal?
[01:00] <jrib> g[r] eek: right click -> edit current profile
[01:00] <stefg> asc: no, that's an indication of seroius trouble
[01:00] <dhilip89> the card is Geforce2 Ti
[01:00] <Dusk_> jrib, there should be another way...just a click
[01:00] <g[r] eek> jrib: server edition- looking for some kind of config file
[01:00] <jrib> Dusk_: I don't know of one, file a bug
[01:01] <T-Connect> Heh it not for 7.04
[01:01] <g[r] eek> jrib: when i log into my ubuntu server with putty, folders, executables, links, all different colours. i want to edit these.
[01:01] <T-Connect> Different setup
[01:01] <stefg> !fixres | dhilip89
[01:01] <jrib> g[r] eek: edit the LS_COLORS variable
[01:01] <asc> stefg: Interesting, thanks. I'm having a discussion with a guy who says overwriting his MBR broke a partition. :p
[01:01] <jayde_drag0n> no such luck
[01:01] <Dusk_> !desktop
[01:01] <ubotu> dhilip89: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:01] <ubotu> A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[01:01] <Dusk_> !nautilus
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <jayde_drag0n> it brought up grub... but it did what it did when i messed up the install the very first time
[01:02] <g[r] eek> jrib: not sure what you mean?
[01:02] <jayde_drag0n> it hung forever... then ent to a grub prompt... no choices
[01:02] <dhilip89> thanks
[01:02] <Jjohn> geaxis, look in your gui sound settings and make sure is is not muted
[01:02] <g[r] eek> jrib: is that an env variable like PATH?
[01:02] <Dusk_> !nautilus
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <asc> stefg: Well, thanks. Now I don't know what the heck happened, but I'm still right. ;p
[01:02] <bullgard4> What program produced the + and - signs in the email  http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/12900/ that I received?
[01:02] <stefg> asc: if e.g. partiton magic f*cked his part-table before, that might be possible. but that's a consequence, not a cause
[01:02] <jayde_drag0n> sooo i'm just going to do a complete reinstall.... again
[01:02] <T-Connect> Anyway it wrong faq for 7.04. I give up.
[01:03] <jrib> g[r] eek: yeah, in your .bashrc you should have something like eval `dir-colors -b` that does it
[01:03] <jayde_drag0n> but before i do that... i want to take my 2 drives... dib and armada and format them to the linux filesystem... how do i do that?
[01:03] <g[r] eek> jrib: thanks
[01:03] <T-Connect> Ubuntu 6.10 only
[01:03] <jrib> T-Connect: it's the same.
[01:03] <dhilip89> the compiz went wrong for my card too
[01:03] <T-Connect> No it is not.
[01:03] <dhilip89> it hangs the whole desktop
[01:03] <jrib> T-Connect: you don't have system -> administration -> software sources in your menu?
[01:04] <T-Connect> Yes I do. But the faq made for Ubuntu 6.10 only
[01:04] <jrib> T-Connect: click on that and add multiverse
[01:04] <T-Connect>  software sources is different
[01:04] <misstajah> Question: http://intellinuxwireless.org/tar.php?p=iwlwifi&a=iwlwifi-0.1.1.tgz&f=INSTALL <- it doesn't seem to work, how can I solve this?
[01:04] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: how do i format my 2 external drives from ntfs or whatever they are to ubuntu?
[01:05] <jrib> T-Connect: it should be easy for you to figure out.  Click on "multiverse"
[01:05] <jayde_drag0n> just lead me thru 1 i should be able to do the other by myself after that
[01:05] <soc> hi
[01:05] <T-Connect> Where? It not listed
[01:05] <soc> i have a problem ...
[01:05] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: you coud use gparted
[01:05] <soc> whenever my computer is not connected to the internet it is incredibly slow
[01:06] <jrib> T-Connect: "software restricted by copyright or legal issues (multiverse)"  fourth option on the first tab
[01:06] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: okay lead me oh genius one
[01:06] <T-Connect> It is enable
[01:06] <slytherin> misstajah: What is that thing you are trying to install? And what is the error you are getting?
[01:06] <soc> start up takes ages, logging in and even seeing the wallpaper takes minutes, same with programs ...
[01:06] <T-Connect> Default setting
[01:06] <jayde_drag0n> once i do it the first time.. i'll have learned enough to do the second on my own
[01:06] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: but as things sound you're in for a substantial cleanup of your hd-landscape
[01:06] <jrib> T-Connect: the do 'sudo aptitude install unrar' in a terminal
[01:06] <soc> does someone have an idea?
[01:06] <soc> top doesn't show anything
[01:06] <asc> How might I print the contents of the boot sector of a drive?
[01:07] <misstajah> slytherin: I am trying to put my Intel 4965AGN WiFi card to work, there's no error at all, I just can do the "./load" instruction in the URL given and so there's no results :S
[01:07] <g[r] eek> jrib: i see that eval dir-colors command is for altering the colours of file types displayed when using the ls command. i am after the following however: i have a log file that is continuously updated. i monitor activity using tail -f filename.log. i want to alter the font colours of BOLD text. any ideas?
[01:07] <g[r] eek> jrib: my aim is to make certain "important" logged lines stick out
[01:07] <T-Connect> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. That odd
[01:08] <moggio_> is there an easy way to install the smartlink driver for my modem?
[01:08] <slytherin> misstajah: Did you extract the package (tar.gz file)?
[01:08] <golam> sorry ,,,, but the k3b is not working... at the last moment ..it gave me an error...
[01:08] <jrib> T-Connect: pastebin the entire output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:08] <misstajah> slytherin: sure :)
[01:08] <SlimeyPete> golam: what error?
[01:08] <stefg> !dialup | moggio_
[01:08] <ubotu> moggio_: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[01:08] <jayde_drag0n> thats what i'm doing... my plan is... i'm copying everything from ARMADA to GIR ( my external) once thats done.... i wantg to format those drives to ubuntu format... then reinstall ubuntu... once i'm sucessfully in ubuntu and can see all my drives... i'll  want to wipe the windows disk
[01:08] <jrib> g[r] eek: ah, I see.  I don't know how to do that on a terminal that's not in X
[01:08] <soc> can someone help me?
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> How do I set Nautilus to apply the same settings to all folders(50%, View as list)..., w/o going through every folder
[01:08] <slytherin> misstajah: Sorry I have no idea. I am not sure if you need to install driver.
[01:08] <jayde_drag0n> so that everything is linux format and i can see read and write to all of them
[01:08] <g[r] eek> jrib: im using putty. does that imply "not in X"? im not sure what you mean by that term
[01:08] <misstajah> i am running feisty, but my card isn't recognized
[01:09] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: give me sudo fdisk -l listing on pastebin
[01:09] <jayde_drag0n> or however i should go about this... if i can do it all from live cd before i run the installer agin i will
[01:09] <golam> its : "Unable to fixate the disk"
[01:09] <misstajah> anyone help me on this?
[01:09] <T-Connect> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30425/
[01:09] <jayde_drag0n> i just want all the drives to read appropriatley... be able to read and write.. and only have ubuntu on the machine
[01:09] <jayde_drag0n> what would you suggest?
[01:09] <SlimeyPete> golam: ah. Try reading from the disc anyway. It might still work.
[01:09] <jrib> g[r] eek: well, you could change it for a particular terminal emulator like gnome-terminal or aterm.  It would be a terminal emulator setting though, so if you can, I think it would be in putty's settings
[01:10] <moggio_> stefg: i looked at that, seems like you have to jump through hoops to get it working
[01:10] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: ok, that's a plan... so give me the listing so i can see what you have now
[01:10] <jayde_drag0n> okay
[01:10] <golam> hold on,,,let me try
[01:10] <T-Connect> Get that paste?
[01:10] <g[r] eek> jrib: yeah i can change foreground color in putty. but there is also an option there "change bold font foreground" - changing that doesn't do anything.
[01:10] <bullgard4> What Ubuntu programs produce an 'diff file'?
[01:10] <Myrtti> diff
[01:10] <g[r] eek> jrib: but changing everything else (cursor, background) works
[01:10] <g[r] eek> jrib: anyhow thanks for your help
[01:10] <Myrtti> diff file1 file2 > diff.txt
[01:10] <jayde_drag0n> whats the paste url again?
[01:10] <slytherin> T-Connect: Please use the nick of the person you are addressing to. Use Tab key for auto completion of nickname.
[01:11] <jrib> T-Connect: what does 'apt-cache policy unrar' return?
[01:11] <stefg> !paste | jayde_drag0n
[01:11] <ubotu> jayde_drag0n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:11] <Don64> IndyGunFreak: open Nautilus, edit, preferences
[01:11] <CraZy675> I'm running off the 7.04 live cd and I want to change my screen resolution 1680 x 1050 but the options don't go up that high, what can i do?
[01:11] <moggio_> ironic that it was really easy to get working on slackware
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> Don64: only does it one folder at a time.
[01:11] <hume> anyone could give me some help with guraddog? it seems to be blocking my VPN device ham0, how can I tell it to let it pass free?
[01:12] <jrib> g[r] eek: http://linux.die.net/man/1/putty see the notes about -fb.  maybe that helps
[01:12] <T-Connect> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30426/
[01:12] <robert_ugo> hi. i have a problem with mp3 player with MTP mode on ubuntu 7.04. amarok and mtp-detect cant find my mp3. but lsusb see my mp3. mtp-detect with "sudo" can find my mp3. how can i use amarok to connect?
[01:12] <slytherin> hume: I haven't used guarddog but firestarter is a good and easy to use GUI for firewall
[01:12] <HEP85> CraZy675: edit your xorg.conf manually or run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:12] <Nod-Ubuntu> Onboard sound on my ubuntu machine is not working.  I don't have a CD to install the drivers.  What are my options?
[01:12] <Don64> IndyGunFreak: It changed for me this way
[01:12] <jayde_drag0n> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30427/
[01:12] <jrib> T-Connect: ok, unrar is installed so you should be able to just right click on your rar file and hit "extract here"
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> Don64: wait, i see the prob... thanks.
[01:13] <hume> slytherin, but I have guarddog and want to keep it..:)
[01:13] <allbert> #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007
[01:13] <allbert> Linux linuxgeeks.us 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:13] <slytherin> robert_ugo: Does amarok support MTP?
[01:13] <HEP85> CraZy675: If you use dpkg-reconfigure there will be a screen at some point where you can select all resolutions you want to use
[01:13] <jayde_drag0n> heres what i want the end result... all disks ubuntu and named the following if i can... 80gig  ARMADA   80 gig DIB  40GIG GAZ  all empty and ubuntu filesystem no more windows
[01:14] <T-Connect> Won't work
[01:14] <jrib> T-Connect: what happens exactly
[01:15] <T-Connect> Not listed
[01:15] <slytherin> jayde_drag0n: If you don't need separate partitions then keep only one partition and use it for / in installation of Ubuntu. Otherwise you don't need to do any special thing.
[01:15] <jayde_drag0n> and like i said if i can do them all from livecd and then once they're all done.. reinstall ubuntu ... then i'll be eternally happy.. cuz then i can start fresh with everything rigth the first time
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> jayde_drag0n: so just format them w/ gparted and that should do it.
[01:15] <jayde_drag0n> okay never done that.. can you walk me thru DIB?
[01:15] <jrib> T-Connect: try restarting nautilus with 'killall nautilus'
[01:15] <robert_ugo> slytherin: yes, wth libmtp
[01:15] <CraZy675> how do I restart the session using the live cd?
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> CraZy675: control alt backspace
[01:16] <jayde_drag0n> i'm copying all the files from armada now
[01:16] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: would be easier if you put my nick in front if you're talking to me, so iget a highlight in my IRC clinet
[01:16] <T-Connect> Then what?
[01:16] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: ok sorry
[01:16] <jrib> T-Connect: then see if "extract here" is listed
[01:16] <T-Connect> No not there
[01:16] <golam> SlimeyPete: sorry,,but k3b is giving me same error
[01:16] <jrib> T-Connect: are you using GNOME?
[01:16] <T-Connect> It did turn it into internet file
[01:16] <golam> And its nearly hang my gnome
[01:17] <T-Connect> Ubuntu Desktop 7.04
[01:17] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: okay can you walk me thru DIB?
[01:17] <mc44> T-Connect: is the file the size you are expecting it to be?
[01:18] <SlimeyPete> golam: nearly hanging? sounds like a hardware issue, perhaps. You could try Nero, Bonfire, X-CD-Roast or Gnome Toast instead of k3b
[01:18] <geoaxis> hello people
[01:18] <SlimeyPete> see if they work
[01:18] <geoaxis> need help with mic on ubuntu
[01:18] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: from a professional viewpoint i'd first cleanup your harddisk zoo by rearranging the disks on the hardware side. what is internal, what external?
[01:18] <T-Connect> I have no idea why it did this. HTML document <- RPGM_XP.rar
[01:18] <CraZy675> ok cool my screen resolution totally works now
[01:19] <jayde_drag0n> everything but the 300gig is internal
[01:19] <T-Connect> 613 bytes (613 bytes)
[01:19] <jayde_drag0n> ak
[01:19] <robert_ugo>  i have a problem with mp3 player with MTP mode on ubuntu 7.04. amarok and mtp-detect cant find my mp3. but lsusb see my mp3. mtp-detect with "sudo" can find my mp3. how can i use amarok to connect? can someone help me? :/
[01:19] <jrib> T-Connect: open it in your web browser
[01:19] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: everything but the 300g is internal
[01:19] <T-Connect> Cannot open RPGM_XP.rar
[01:19] <CraZy675> now the only issue I have left is gtk-recordmydesktop the mic is really quite and you can barley hear it
[01:19] <mc44> T-Connect: it obviously hasn't downloaded correctly
[01:19] <golam> I am using ubuntu 7.04 under vmware probably thats why but...
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> robert_ugo: what type of player?
[01:20] <golam> I tried gnome default one it was also giving me an error
[01:20] <robert_ugo> iRiver T60
[01:20] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: so you are ready to flatten all the disks, and reinstall from scratch?
[01:20] <g[r] eek> jrib: hey thought you might like to know (just sharing my search results) - multitail - its like the tail command except you can set colours and all sorts of things. really cool
[01:20] <g[r] eek> cheer
[01:21] <g[r] eek> s
[01:21] <g[r] eek> sudo apt-get install multitail
[01:21] <robert_ugo> IndyGunFreak: but i try to conect with amarok in root mode, and it connect succesfull
[01:21] <jrib> g[r] eek: cool, thanks
[01:21] <golam> and where I can get nero
[01:21] <T-Connect> Oh ok. It emply. lol
[01:21] <T-Connect> XD
[01:21] <T-Connect> Bad download
[01:21] <robert_ugo> IndyGunFreak: but i need to able connect to my mp3 player withuot sudo
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> robert_ugo: thats kind of odd, have you went through amarok's settings?
[01:21] <Nod-Ubuntu> How do I see what sound drivers are installed on my ubuntu machine?
[01:22] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: 3 of them are ready... one 80gig is currently transferring to the external 300g
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> robert_ugo: yous hould be able to, i've never had to use sudo w/ my Ipod.
[01:22] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: i'm ready to flatten 3 right now
[01:23] <robert_ugo> IndyGunFreak: ehh, maybe main user is not able to comunication wth usb?
[01:23] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: ok, lets take the 300 Gig out of consideration by now, and unplug it for th installation
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> robert_ugo: i doubt htat, but its possible i guess, have you went through the devices tab in amarok?
[01:23] <golam> SlimeyPete: thank for your help
[01:23] <jayde_drag0n> stefg:its transferring the files
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Nod-Ubuntu, "asoundconf list" to see what cards ubuntu has detected
[01:23] <robert_ugo> IndyGunFreak, yes, i have
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> have you tried configure amarok?.. cuz Iriver devices are in the list.
[01:24] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: how come the 2 80 Gig ones are hde and hdf? additional IDE -pci card?
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> configure amarok/media devices
[01:24] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: armada is currently transferring its 60gigs of into to the 300gig
[01:24] <jayde_drag0n> stefg:i have 4 internal hard drives
[01:25] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: an one external
[01:25] <CraZy675> how do i figure out what device my mic is? (ex. hw:0,0)
[01:25] <robert_ugo> i know, but old iriver use old protocol, but i use mtp, and there is mtp, but while i try to connect amarok write "No device found"
[01:25] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: no partitions
[01:25] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: yes, good to make backups first, then disconnect the external (so it's safe) and then rearrange the disks on the IDE channels
[01:25] <Nod-Ubuntu> Jordan_U: Thanks
[01:25] <Jordan_U> Nod-Ubuntu, np
[01:26] <T-Connect> Yay it works
[01:26] <robert_ugo> also mtp-detect cant find my mp3 player withuot sudo
[01:26] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: what motherboard supports 4 inetrnal disks (if you have a cd/DVD drive as well) ?
[01:27] <Nod-Ubuntu> Jordan_U: What I do if System>Preference>Sound     does not open my  'Sound Preference' window.
[01:27] <robert_ugo> when i type "sudo mtp-detect" it connect succesfull
[01:27] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: okay if i have to wait to do everything untill after the transferr.... i know its a big favor.... but can you use the paste bin... and write down all my step by step instructions so i can print them out.. because they won't be done untill tomorrow... well today.. but i need some sleep before i goto work.... its 4:30am here and i goto work at 9am
[01:27] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: its a file server
[01:27] <robert_ugo> what can i do?
[01:27] <robert_ugo> :/
[01:27] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: i have a cdrw and a dvd drive as well
[01:28] <dhilip89> bye
[01:28] <Nod-Ubuntu> Jordan_U: asoundconf list              lists two things,    VT82xx and CMI8738                 the CMI is my sound card.
[01:28] <jayde_drag0n> stefg:and it was given to me.. so i don't knwo the motherboard.. but it is AMD
[01:29] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: so your IDE connections are a big mess, too. you should a.) make a sensible connection scheme (rejumper and reorder your drives on the cables), then look at lvm
[01:29] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: they are all in order
[01:29] <stefg> !lvm | jayde_drag0n
[01:29] <ubotu> jayde_drag0n: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:29] <robert_ugo> ehh, bye
[01:29] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: for setting up a fileserver you should really use the alternate install
[01:30] <stefg> !alternat | jayde_drag0n
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: first jumper cd dvd, second jumper c drive, 3rd jumper 80 gig, 80 gig, 4th jumper 40 gig
[01:30] <stefg> !alternate | jayde_drag0n
[01:30] <ubotu> jayde_drag0n: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[01:30] <Jordan_U> Nod-Ubuntu, asoundconf set-default-card CMI8738
[01:30] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: never put the CD as first
[01:30] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: all in order from top to bottom
[01:30] <Nod-Ubuntu> Jordan_U: Okay, i'll see what this does.
[01:31] <Dubimax> Hello,
[01:31] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: i didn't i said first jumper before i said rthe words CD
[01:31] <Dubimax> I am new to this, can I get some help?
[01:31] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: but okay
[01:31] <Pici> !ask | Dubimax
[01:31] <ubotu> Dubimax: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:32] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Just ask your question and if anyone can help they will :)
[01:32] <T-Connect> Thanks people
[01:32] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: nothing is sloppy on the inside of the machine.. there isn't even dust
[01:32] <CraZy675> how do i figure out what device my mic is? (ex. hw:0,0)
[01:33] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: and everything is labeled and in order from top to bottom.. CD rom, DVD, C Drive, E drive, F drive G drive
[01:33] <Dubimax> Ok, this is the first time I am using Ubunto and everything is new.  I am trying to get sound to work from the internet and it does not work.  the web site is htt://radiosai.org
[01:33] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: but the logical drive assignment (the bios-order) is a mess
[01:33] <kagemaro> Dubimax - does sound work when not on the Internet?
[01:33] <Dubimax> yes
[01:33] <jayde_drag0n> where do you see that?
[01:33] <Administrator> hello,i wish to have a dual boot laptop, i have 450 gb space. and i am ready to format the entire drive.   should i install ubuntu before i install windows or VISA versa
[01:34] <jayde_drag0n> erp stefg: where do you see that?
[01:34] <kagemaro> Administrator - easier to install windows first
[01:34] <kagemaro> Administrator - as Ubuntu's bootloader will not shut off windows
[01:34] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: it would go like hda, hdc, hde, hdf if you have 4 IDE connectors and all hd's jumpered as master
[01:34] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: it would go like hda, hdc, hde, hdg if you have 4 IDE connectors and all hd's jumpered as master
[01:35] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: now i see what uyou are saying.. yah the F*$#@*&$# windows install did that
[01:35] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: it WAS that way
[01:35] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: impossible a software alters hardware settings
[01:35] <Administrator> 450gb should have read 40gb - sorry
[01:36] <asc> Dubimax: Try installing mozilla-mplayer.
[01:37] <asc> (and then restarting firefox)
[01:37] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: well its going to have top stay whatever way it is right now
[01:37] <Dubimax> If anyone can try to go to http://radiosai.org/ and click on listen now and see if it works for you and then please help me figure out how it can work for me.
[01:37] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: were removing the 40gig anyways
[01:38] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: i can't give you a complete tutorial on sensible partion layout now (only 30 mins left here) but you should really get the screwdriver, sort the hardware out and then read about lvm
[01:38] <asc> Dubimax: It works for me, with mozilla-mplayer.
[01:38] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: so we can just put it there... or whever the heck makes it first hda if thats what the computer wants
[01:38] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: no i'm not touching any wiring
[01:38] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: the insides are staying the way that they are... because i can't risk killing my only computers insides
[01:39] <julo> hi
[01:39] <julo> I have created an upstart script and it fails to start automatically: "unable to read: Invalid argument", but if I manually start it, it works well.
[01:39] <julo> Any idea ?
[01:39] <Dubimax> asc:  Could you help me figure it out.  I am using Ubunto 6.06 I think, just installed it
[01:39] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: so i install whatever way works and gives me all my drives
[01:39] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: do an alternate install with lvm
[01:39] <dragonphyre> My Esata drive is not showing up in either gpart or Hardware Information. I have rebooted, and it still dosen't show up. I thought that esata was fixed a couple of kernels ago?
[01:39] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, I would recommend upgrading to Feisty
[01:39] <jayde_drag0n> stfg: what is that?
[01:40] <ansque> Hi. Maybe someone know why i can't regulation of loudness in Sonata?
[01:40] <CraZy675> how do i figure out which device my mic is? (ex. hw:0,0)
[01:40] <stefg> !lvm | jayde_drag0n
[01:40] <ubotu> jayde_drag0n: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:40] <Dubimax> jordan:  Can you help me do that?  WILL IT SOLVE THE PROBLEM?
[01:41] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, The "open in windows media player" link works if you copy it into VLC
[01:41] <Dubimax> JORDAN: OK,  hOW DO i GO IT.  ALL THIS IS NEW TO ME  WHAT IS vlc
[01:41] <Pici> !caps | Dubimax
[01:41] <ubotu> Dubimax: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:42] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, It will not solve your problem but it is generally much easier and more up to date
[01:42] <ansque> Anybody knows can how solve?
[01:42] <CraZy675> vlc is the greatest video player ever
[01:42] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: okay yeay.. more alien language!!! how about just typing some commands to format those drives and cliicking install on the screen?
[01:42] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> hmmm
[01:42] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> can installing windows xp mess up grub even if the drive that grub is on is unplugged during the windows install?
[01:42] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Applications -> Add/remove search for vlc
[01:42] <dougalb> hi, has anybody noticed that firefox on fiesty always opens new windows and not to new tabs
[01:42] <dougalb> my windows firefox opens the same links as tabs
[01:42] <Jordan_U> Lorne_Kun|Laptop, No
[01:42] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: no lvm install on Desktop CD... you need the alternate installer
[01:43] <Dubimax> Jordan:  Ok.  I will try.
[01:43] <Pici> dougalb: check your tab options, this is configurable
[01:43] <Pici> dougalb: its something like "Open new windows as tabs"
[01:43] <dougalb> pici: i checked the settings and it is set to tabs.. i also checked in about:config and it is set to 3
[01:43] <ansque> why in my sonata player i can't regular loudness?
[01:43] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> because i unplugged the drive that grub is on (the drive that has ubuntu on it) during my xp install, but now i get "Grub loading stage 1.5"ReadError
[01:43] <dougalb> pici: i am using fresh fiesty install with no add ons
[01:44] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> curiouser and curioser, ne?
[01:44] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LVMOnRaid
[01:44] <Jordan_U> Lorne_Kun|Laptop, My guess is that you didn't plug it back in the same place ;)
[01:44] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> but i did...
[01:44] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: i don't want a different flavor of linux tho... i want ubuntu.. it WAS working... i just want to make it work again
[01:44] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> because all i did was unplug the power >.>
[01:44] <CraZy675> how do i figure out what device my mic is? (ex. hw:0,0)
[01:44] <Paddy_EIRE> is it normal for firefox to be crashing alot
[01:44] <Pici> dougalb: hmm.
[01:45] <Dubimax> jordan:  I did what you said and it says that it cannot find vlc
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: why did you unplug the ub drive for the xp install
[01:45] <CraZy675> firefox never crashes for me
[01:45] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: or are you saying ubuntu cannot format drives?
[01:45] <Kream> Hi all
[01:45] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: it's still exactly the same ubuntu, just installed in a different way
[01:45] <IntuitiveNipple> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: Have you altered the boot-order in BIOS settings?
[01:45] <Kream> how do i get ntpd to start up on every boot ?
[01:45] <Paddy_EIRE> while running beryl I mean
[01:45] <Pici> dougalb: I dont have a fiesty install in front of me to test with.
[01:45] <dougalb> pici: it is a weird one... it is behaving a little different than the windows setup
[01:45] <dougalb> pici: no worries
[01:45] <dougalb> a good test site is www.linux.org
[01:45] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> Jack_Sparrow: because its the drive that windows wanted to install ITS boot loader too
[01:46] <dougalb> the new news section
[01:46] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Make sure that in the top right you have "show all available applications" selected
[01:46] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: and now you have the chance to clean up. you'll regret if you don't do it now at a later time
[01:46] <dougalb> it has a new window link
[01:46] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> IntuitiveNipple: i put it back to the way it was when ubuntu was the only OS
[01:46] <Dubimax> jordan: I did!!!
[01:46] <fenrig> hi
[01:46] <dougalb> on windows it goes to a tab and on fiesty it goes to a new window
[01:46] <fenrig> whats the difference between the cups expert driver and the cups simple driver?
[01:46] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: that is all waaaaaay to above my head. and too complicated for me to think about... especially if it means noone will help me because thats just too mucyh typing to walk me thru
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: Sorry to come in late on this.. I take it you now do not have access to grub and ubuntu
[01:47] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: or that the can't walk me thru it
[01:47] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> correct
[01:47] <IntuitiveNipple> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: Have you booted from the LiveCD and inspected grub's /boot/grub/menu.list to check the hd(x,y) settings match the current config?
[01:47] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and enable universe
[01:47] <munckfish> Hi I notice that the Jetty packages are supposed to be in Feisty (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jetty/) but I'm searching in Apt and I can't find it. I have multiverse enabled in my source.list.
[01:47] <ansque> Jack_Sparoow: maybe you know why i can't reguar loudness in my sonata player?
[01:47] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: i either need simple... or a step by step walkthru for my system
[01:47] <munckfish> any idea why it's not showing up?
[01:47] <yinghao> i love ion3
[01:47] <fenrig> hi
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ansque: Just waking up.. but I am helping him at the moment
[01:47] <Dubimax> jordan: Thanks.  I will try
[01:48] <CraZy675> how do i figure out what device my mic is? (ex. hw:0,0) << is this question not clear?
[01:48] <Kream> how do i get ntpd to start up on every boot ?
[01:48] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> not yet, i just wanted to check here first, IntuitiveNipple
[01:48] <fenrig> what is the difference between a cups gutenprint simple driver and a cups gutenprint expert driver?
[01:48] <ansque> Jack_Sparrow: ok, I wait
[01:48] <Thursley> Kream: it might have it's own options in the configuratin file, but you could also use crontab (man crontab and /etc/crontab)
[01:48] <IntuitiveNipple> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: Well from what you've said you've affected the drive-recognition order since installing Ubuntu, so you need to examine what is set versus what is *in effect*
[01:49] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> okie dokie...
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: SO it dosent have grub in the mbr...
[01:49] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> i think grub is confused because i have 2 hard drives that are both primary master ;)
[01:49] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> one is sata and one is pata :P
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: Have you gone through the instructions for repairing grub after installing windows?
[01:50] <Kream> Thursley:  thanks, ntp.conf is the configuration file for ntpd, /etc/default/ntp has no setting like other scripts do with something like NTPD_ENABLE=true|false
[01:50] <SlimeyPete> yeah, ubuntu's grub configurator doesn't cope with PATA/SATA mixes
[01:50] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: you still there?
[01:50] <zaggynl> Hi, does anyone know how I can play dvd's over smb? I've already got a smb shortcut at my desktop, but I have no clue how to reach it with vlc
[01:50] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: you have a complex system there, so nothing is going to make a complex setup easy. There's a lot of learning and reading docu involved to get things right, noone can do the homework for you. so the trouble you are in (non-booting system) needs a cure on the root to avoid further complications, just trying to 'make it work somehow' will result in future trouble
[01:50] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> not yet, i didnt think i'd need to because the drive that it, and ubuntu is on were unplugged during the windows install.
[01:51] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> one sec, going mobile downstairs to the pc
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: You should have left it connected
[01:51] <T-Connect> Sleep
[01:51] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: so basically my system is soo complex... i have no help... i'm screwed until i master it all?
[01:51] <max01> hi ive seen a screen print of ubuntu desktop could anyone give me the name of this app?
[01:51] <max01> vncviewer - Virtual network computing client software for X
[01:51] <max01> opse
[01:51] <Kream> does anyone here have ntpd running on their server and have it starting up at boot ?
[01:51] <Dubimax> jordan,  there is no software sources (I am using 6.06)  only software properties in adminstration
[01:51] <max01> http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6681/220107gq0.png
[01:52] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> Jack_Sparrow, would it be easier to copy ubuntu onto another PATA drive so i dont have to cope with a sata/pata mixture?
[01:52] <max01> the one in the bottom left corner
[01:52] <Pici> max01: in the lower left? Thats conky
[01:52] <max01> ah thank you pici :)
[01:52] <IntuitiveNipple> Obviously grub is being read from the drive correctly, but the references to the location of the root() for the default kernel needs altering to match the dual-drive configuration
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: I have never mixed those but I cant see that it matters that much.
[01:52] <Jordan_U> @lart max01 for that desktop background
[01:52] <Thursley> Kream: use crontab then: "man 5 crontab" , it has a @reboot option
[01:52] <blownose-> if i have tv-out on my ati x600 how do i activate it  in feisty?
[01:53] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: you're screwd unlees you recognize: i'll have to learn to master a complex system
[01:53] <Kream> i'm a bit uncomfortable starting an initscript from cron
[01:53] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: 2 days using ubuntu linux and i'm told sorry newbie.. we know you have no idea how to use these commands... even tho you've used windows forever and aren't a complete idiot... but we can't help you... figure it out on you own?
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: It looks like you need to get grub into the mbr of the windows drive ... was that drive in place when you installed ubuntu
[01:53] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> yep
[01:53] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> it was
[01:53] <max01> grr conky isnt listed under apt-cache search
[01:53] <max01> is it for kde?
[01:53] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: but what you are telling me is i have to BE a msater before i can ever yse it
[01:54] <jayde_drag0n> use
[01:54] <Kream> jayde_drag0n:  what seems to be the problem ?
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> jayde_drag0n: that is not true
[01:54] <mattfletcher> max01: i see it under an apt-cache search
[01:54] <max01> ill edit my apt source then
[01:55] <max01> :|
[01:55] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: we're drifting into philosophical issues now. Linux is not windows, you have to learn to do things the Linux way. If you want it simple, rip aout all disks but one, install to that, tehn add the others one by one and see how they get added
[01:55] <Dubimax> jordan:  are you still there?
[01:55] <xoRock> need help, how to check *.iso?
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> jayde_drag0n: Please define your problem , ask your question.  The better the question the better your answer
[01:55] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Yes
[01:55] <Sonicadvance1> oi, the command line says "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave" is there anyway to fix that without restarting?
[01:55] <xoRock> md5sum -c name.iso?
[01:56] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> ok note to self. do not walk around in the dark, especiall on stairs
[01:56] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> i just about fell and dropped my $3000 laptop down the stairs :P
[01:56] <mattfletcher> max01: actually i see it under a dapper machine, not got anything newer handy to check
[01:56] <IntuitiveNipple> It might help if you do that to the other PC :p
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: Can you give me a minute to start a pot of coffee?
[01:56] <Dubimax> jordan:  I did not see software sources in admin.  Should I upgrade to Fiesto before going further?
[01:57] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> Jack_Sparrow can this be fixed by manually editing grub's boot list?
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: that and instlling grub into the mbr yes
[01:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: Can you boot the problem PC from a LiveCD ? then we can give you some informed solutions to try
[01:57] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> that comp doesnt like the live cd :P
[01:58] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: i am trying to learn.. that is why i am here... i lean by doing.. i do not learn by reading (especially if its in another language to me) i cannot learn how to do it if you just trow me into shark infested water not knowing how to swim... i need some direction... not being told that i have to learn it all before i ever do it in the first place
[01:58] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, It would make things a lot easier, and if you havn't done much configuring it might be faster to simply install Feisty than upgrade to Edgy then Feisty
[01:58] <aricz> Hi, I have 1 CD-rom (it's dead) and 1 DVD-rom (it's alive).. how do I mount it? what in /dev do I mount?
[01:58] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: i have learned the sudo command and what it does.... by doing... niot by reading the command on a forum so,mewhere
[01:58] <Jordan_U> Lorne_Kun|Laptop, Doesn't like X on the LiveCD or is it more than that?
[01:58] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: by having someone take the imte and patience to show me what tio type.. and then tell me what i just did and what it means
[01:58] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> hangs because of the sata / pata thing
[01:59] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> i can only get it to boot if i disable one of the pata controllers
[01:59] <Dubimax> jodan:  Is it possible to do from the internet w/o having a cd?  I used a cd to install 6.06
[01:59] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> of course... my other option is to not use my sata drive at all and put it into a handy dandy enclosure ;)
[01:59] <Jordan_U> Lorne_Kun|Laptop, Try knoppix, it's pretty robust about strange hardware configs
[01:59] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: i feel like i'm being thrown into a land with a fireing language... and no possibilty of an interpereter
[02:00] <IntuitiveNipple> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: The "stage 1.5" error means that GRUB loads from the MBR correctly, but then cannot find the additional helper code in the first track of the disk, which suggests it has either gone missing, or grub is looking on the wrong disk
[02:00] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: foreign
[02:00] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: no problem... look for the commercial support from canonical. Or accept that learning has something to do with reading docu, trying things out, failing and trying again
[02:00] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> okie dokie :)
[02:00] <Jordan_U> jayde_drag0n, Warum wurden Sie dass denken ? ;)
[02:00] <Dubimax> jordan:  Is it possible to do from the internet w/o having a cd?  I used a cd to install 6.06
[02:00] <martyyyr> What do I do when ifconfig only outputs eth1, but not eth0?
[02:00] <d4rkmonkey> !gutsy
[02:00] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[02:00] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: so do a friggin alternat install, and don't be scared of a text-mode, because there is no pointer and nothing to click on
[02:01] <jayde_drag0n> stefg: i'm not afraid of the tex... i'm afraid of having to read war and peace before i can even type one line!
[02:01] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Yes, but you will have to upgrade to Edgy then to Feisty, which will require twice the downloading
[02:01] <julo> salut
[02:02] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: you'll not have to read war and peace, but approx. the same amount of lines in lvm docu :-)
[02:02] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: or forum posts
[02:02] <julo> j'ai un problme avec upstart: j'ai cr un script, et  l'amorage du  j'obtiens l'erreur "unable to read: Invalid argument" au lancement du script. Par contre, si je lance ce script  la main, a marche.
[02:02] <Dubimax> jordan:  ok.  I will do it one step at a time and then look for vlc and then it will be compatiible with windows media player, correct?
[02:02] <kagemaro> jayde_drag0n - I've barely read any docu and I have a working Ubuntu install after 24 hours
[02:03] <martyyyr> What to do when ifconfig only shows eth1, not eth0?
[02:03] <Kream> jayde_drag0n:  can you tell me what you're having problems with?
[02:03] <ribery> hi all
[02:03] <Kream> hi ribery
[02:03] <Thursley> Kream: There is probably a better way, but this should work: "echo '@reboot ntpd -optionsHere' >> /etc/crontab"
[02:03] <jayde_drag0n> kagemaro: i'm working on 30hrs and have been told i have to go read this first http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ to install my system.. and that also i will not recieve any help if i do not understand something
[02:03] <kagemaro> hi
[02:03] <aricz> asdf
[02:03] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, I don't think you need to upgrade just to get vlc, I still recommend upgrading though
[02:04] <kagemaro> jayde_drag0n - Can't you just install straight off the liveCD?
[02:04] <kagemaro> jayde_drag0n - it's a very straightforward process
[02:04] <jayde_drag0n> kagemaro: yah i know.. i've been told i cannot
[02:04] <jayde_drag0n> kagemaroo: i did it right the  first time.. i had problems.. now i'm here
[02:04] <joel> hi
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jayde_drag0n: This is not a discussion room on how you like to learn...  We are here to answer questions and help people ...  You WILL need to read instructions if we type it here in channel or have posted it to the wiki...
[02:05] <stefg> jayde_drag0n: here's something http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning
[02:05] <kagemaro> jayde_drag0n - What are the problems?
[02:05] <jayde_drag0n> kream: i have 4 harddrives... i just want to format them all to linux and install ubuntu
[02:05] <Dubimax> jordan:  It makes more sense then to get vlc and try it out (will build my confidence) and when I have more time I will upgrade but HOW DO I GET VLC???
[02:05] <jayde_drag0n> kream: so that i have read write access to them all
[02:05] <Kream> jayde_drag0n:   formatting  occurs during the installation procedure.can you be more specific ?
[02:05] <kagemaro> jayde_drag0n - Would it not be simpler to remove all except your / hard drive and then format/mount others later?
[02:05] <Kream> jayde_drag0n:  what are you having problems with ?
[02:06] <jayde_drag0n> kream: ugh i cannot talk anymore.. i need sleep... i'm already crying.. i've been working on this for over 30 i need sleep i have to goto work in 4 hrs
[02:06] <Dubimax> jordan:  It makes more sense then to get vlc and try it out (will build my confidence) and when I have more time I will upgrade but HOW DO I GET VLC???
[02:07] <jayde_drag0n> kream... and thanks to stefg.. i'm ending on the ":i'm sorry noone will help you... go read this http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/  and do it yourself"
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> jayde_drag0n: Seems simple enough.. Install Ubuntu on the first drive, then use Ubuntu's GGnome Partitioner to partition and format the other drives as you want
[02:07] <IntuitiveNipple> jayde_drag0n: Install Ubuntu from LiveCD, when it starts, use System -> Administration -> GNOME Partition Editor to format your other drives.
[02:07] <Kream> jayde_drag0n:  a friendly piece of advice from someone who's been where you are often. Take a deep breath, take a break. try and do something completely different. sleep. and then come back and attack the problem again.
[02:07] <padee> hi everyone... any bookkeeping gurus here? ive got troubles with sql-ledger...
[02:07] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, run "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:07] <martyyyr> What could be the cause for eth0 not showing up?
[02:07] <jayde_drag0n> intuitivenipple:   couldn't that person have said that in the first place???
[02:08] <kagemaro> Trust me jayde_drag0n - took me absolutely hours to sort out my soundcard problem, but it's worth it in the end
[02:08] <Kream> martyyyr:  is the network card detected by dmesg ? do dmesg | grep eth to see if it shows up. second, do lspci and see if the card shows up there
[02:08] <martyyyr> Kream: it shows up in both
[02:08] <xoRock> jayde_drag0n, what is your gender?
[02:08] <jayde_drag0n> i'm a girl
[02:09] <Dubimax> jordan:  How to I run it?  never done it in linux.
[02:09] <xoRock> ah as i guest
[02:09] <aricz> haha
[02:09] <joel> Hi can any1 help me with a problem i have? It's kind of annoying, you see I cant connect to anny ubuntu server, I cant vissit http://ubuntu.com and with update manager and synaptic it just fails and says it cant find archive.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <jayde_drag0n> a girl whos been working with windows for many years
[02:09] <Kream> xoRock:  that doesn't have anything to do :P
[02:09] <Kream> with it
[02:09] <IntuitiveNipple> jayde_drag0n: Your questions were confusing the issue... I'm only guessing this is the solution that will address your issue.
[02:09] <jayde_drag0n> i'm not an idiot in winows
[02:09] <xoRock> get some rest and continue tommorow after u got spare time :)
[02:09] <jayde_drag0n> i'm totally okay with being an idiot here
[02:09] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Hit alt+f2 to get a run dialog or open a terminal
[02:09] <Kream> martyyyr:  all right. what is it detected as in the dmesg output ?
[02:09] <jayde_drag0n> this isn't my baliwick... i'm okay with being a newbie.. but that personm was just being mean
[02:10] <kagemaro> Its not easy coming from w32 to *nix
[02:10] <jayde_drag0n> i asked stefg to proved me with a simple answer
[02:10] <kagemaro> I've been using BSD based operating systems for years and I still get issues
[02:10] <jayde_drag0n> that i wasn't ready to read war anddpeace without help to do what i thought could be done simply
[02:10] <jayde_drag0n> and thanks to intuitivenipple
[02:10] <jayde_drag0n> i was right
[02:10] <jayde_drag0n> that person just refused to tell me
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jayde_drag0n: Dont judge the room by any one or two people, we all have our days..  But please stop with the discussion.. With 1000+ people here it does not help
[02:11] <sunken> jayde_drag0n: to bad
[02:11] <martyyyr> Kream: Well, I have 2 network cards. eth1 is a realtek, which works perfectly. eth0 is a Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21041 [tulip pass3] 
[02:11] <martyyyr> Kream: however, in dmesg, eth0 is displayed as "21041" , without the rest its name
[02:12] <jayde_drag0n> okay SO before i goto sleep... the job is to just finish my file transferr... then just run the installer.. and boot into ubuntu... when i'm in go into system>administration> gnome partition manager and format them
[02:12] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Is the file open?
[02:12] <IntuitiveNipple> jayde_drag0n: I agree with everything stefg told you. The golden rule is to RTFM, and follow the links suggested
[02:13] <aricz> Hi, can anyone help me trying to get my DVD-rom working? In /etc/fstab it says : "/dev/hdc  /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto" and "/dev/hdd  /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto" .. anything wrong there? And, when I try to 'sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom1' or 'sudo mount /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1" I get the following error-message: "mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist". Anyone know how I should go on figuring this out? Help would b
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jayde_drag0n: Yes, you can do it live or after you have finished installing from the cd..
[02:13] <Kream> jayde_drag0n:  unless you HAVE to install it, go to sleep now. sleep dep+tech obstacle+LVM=not good
[02:13] <kagemaro> IntuitiveNipple - sometimes it's easier just to tell people the answer, instead of sending them trawling through libraries
[02:13] <jayde_drag0n> intuitivenipple: why couldn't stefg tell me i could just install and use gnome partiioner?
[02:13] <kagemaro> Which is what it sounds like stefg did
[02:13] <jurp5> hi
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jayde_drag0n: Agreed, get some rest, the process will take awhile
[02:14] <sunken> jayde_drag0n: perhaps you need to install gnome partition manager
[02:14] <jurp5> i cant get bluetooth to work
[02:14] <jayde_drag0n> sunken: i have it
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jayde_drag0n: Did you consider he may not have known or understood what you were trying to do..
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude
[02:14] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:14] <sunken> jayde_drag0n: mkey
[02:14] <martyyyr> Kream: any suggestions?
[02:14] <Kream> martyyyr:  hmm okay. when you do lspci, you will get something like 02:01.0  Ethernet controller:
[02:14] <Dubimax> jordan:  I got the file with a lot of signs ## and # lat starts of lines.  What next?
[02:14] <jurp5> having changed security user to security auto
[02:14] <Kream> and since you have 2 cards, you'll also get something like 03:08.0 Ethernet controller
[02:15] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, add this in a new line at the bottom ( without the quotes ) "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"
[02:15] <Kream> right ?
[02:15] <jurp5> but pairing still wont work
[02:15] <martyyyr> Kream: right.
[02:15] <berent> can i change permissions of cd - r to cd-rw
[02:15] <Thursley> martyyyr: what does "lsmod " grep de2104x" give you?
[02:15] <Kream> martyyyr:  so you know which number refers to the realtek one and which one to the dec one.
[02:15] <Thursley> sorry lsmod | grep de2104x
[02:15] <jurp5> hidd --connect bl:ah:bl:ah..
[02:15] <Kream> martyyyr:  do lspci -n ... which will give you plain numbers without the translation
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: Do you have a cd-rw drive with a rw disk in it?
[02:16] <jurp5> gives an error message after entering pin code
[02:16] <jurp5> Can't create HID control channel: Connection refused
[02:16] <jayde_drag0n> intuitivenipple: i just didn't want to be in the dark and on my own for something that if i screwed up i had no help from.. or even a computer left to look up the answers on.. its why i chose ubuntu in the fiorst place.... gloris reviews on how helpful the community was to newbies ... and everything
[02:16] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> my ubuntu install is essentially fresh, would i just be farther ahead to reinstall?
[02:16] <martyyyr> Thursley, Kream: Checking both now.
[02:16] <berent> Jack_SParrow i have a cd/dvd-rw drive with a r disk in it.
[02:16] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> it only takes like 15 minutes :p
[02:16] <Kream> there'll be 2 sets of 4 numbers separated by a :
[02:16] <HEP85> !gtk
[02:16] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[02:16] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Then save the file
[02:16] <Kream> tell us the numbers for the dec card
[02:16] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, This is easy to do in the GUI but I am lazy so just copy and paste this into a terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc"
[02:16] <Utopian> Hey! Anybody knows where Konsole saves bookmarks?
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: are you trying to burn a cd?
[02:17] <IntuitiveNipple> jayde_drag0n: That is the beauty of the LiveCD - you have a fully funtioning Ubuntu to work from without touching your hard drive
[02:17] <jurp5> Utopian: maby in the .kde dir?
[02:17] <berent> Jack_SParrow yes . but why should it not become read and write and overwrite
[02:17] <royel> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: depends on the problem you have
[02:18] <martyyyr> Thursley: it gives me a number: 24832
[02:18] <martyyyr> Kream: I get a list of address, or so it seems.
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> brent: cd-r means it is burn once disk
[02:18] <martyyyr> Kream: which numbe do you mean exactly?
[02:18] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> well i installed windows after ubuntu, and it messed up grub somehow... i think it may also be related to having windows on a pata disk and ubuntu on a sata disk
[02:18] <Lorne_Kun|Laptop> so what i was going to do is install so that both os-es are on pata drives
[02:18] <martyyyr> Kream: 1011:0014  is this it?
[02:18] <royel> !grub | Lorne_Kun|Laptop
[02:18] <ubotu> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Lorne_Kun|Laptop: leave everything connected and reinstall ubuntu
[02:19] <Kream> looks like it :)
[02:19] <berent> Jack_SParrow what really happens. does it burn so badly that you can't burn it anymore
[02:19] <Dubimax> jordan:  I did it and it worked and then I went back to add programs and it ave me many more but when I looked for vlc the monkey was still not there.
[02:20] <zaggynl> Anyone knows how to play a DVD over smb?
[02:20] <Kream> martyyyr:  go to http://rom-o-matic.net/5.4.3/etherboot-5.4.3/src/bin/NIC , which has a huge list of NIC PCI ids and find the entry where 1011 and 0014 are in the same line
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: I am going to go get coffee..  cdr are burn once.. rw can read write and reformat-erase but they are more money..
[02:20] <martyyyr> Kream: On my way.
[02:20] <jayde_drag0n> intuitivenipple: ok from what i've understood to this point .. if i format themm.. i format them to ext3?
[02:20] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, VLC should be installed ( that was the second part of the command I gave )
[02:20] <jurp5> someone who knows a solution for my bluetooth problem?
[02:20] <berent> i know that. go get your coffee
[02:21] <martyyyr> Kream:  dc21041	0x1011,0x0014	Digital Tulip+
[02:21] <Kream> excellent.
[02:21] <Kream> now that shoudl be in a para for something like drivers/net/XXXX - what's the XXXX ?
[02:22] <Kream> sometimes, its' startlingly different
[02:22] <kidbuntu> pls help me. i'm having trouble with my mouse sensitivity after updating my ubuntu 7.04
[02:22] <Kream> from the maker of the card
[02:22] <martyyyr> Kream: You mean the name of that " section"? family	drivers/net/tulip?
[02:22] <Kream> ahh yes
[02:22] <Kream> so its confirmed that you need to  load tulip
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> jayde_drag0n: yes, format to ext3
[02:22] <frogzoo> kidbuntu: sys -> prefs -> keyboard
[02:22] <Dubimax> jordan:  Do you mean it is already installed?  I do not understand.   And can you direct me how to make the actual media players sound to play?
[02:23] <Kream> do lsmod  | grep tulip
[02:23] <kidbuntu> frogzoo: whats with keyboard?
[02:23] <frogzoo> kidbuntu: sys -> prefs -> mouse (my bad)
[02:23] <martyyyr> Kream: k, one moment (the pc is in another room)
[02:23] <kidbuntu> frogzoo: that doesnt work for me. adjusting it makes no changes at all.
[02:23] <frogzoo> kidbuntu: oh no it is there - under accessibility
[02:23] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Go to Applications -> Sound And Video -> VLC media player
[02:23] <jayde_drag0n> thanks everyone... i'm going to sleep now
[02:23] <frogzoo> kidbuntu: sys -> prefs -> keyboard ->accessibility
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jayde_drag0n: If I may... do not format the drive you intend to install ubuntu on.. it is easier to leave it unformatted-partitioned and let the installer do it
[02:24] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Then go to File -> Open Network Stream
[02:25] <Dubimax> jordan:  I went there but it is still not there:  Maybe I missed sometthing.  All I dd was to copy the line:
[02:25] <aricz> Hi, can anyone help me mounting my DVD-rom? I can't mount it, it says special device /dev/hdd does not exist..
[02:25] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, And at the bottom put http://www.radiosai.org/Pages/AfriStream.asx as the URL
[02:25] <Dubimax> joran: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[02:25] <aricz> It has worked earlier, but for some reason it doesn't work anymore..
[02:25] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Did you run the commands I told you to run in the terminal?
[02:25] <martyyyr> Kream: no results.
[02:26] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, This is easy to do in the GUI but I am lazy so just copy and paste this into a terminal then hit enter "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc"
[02:26] <martyyyr> Kream: It just gives me nothing, at all.
[02:27] <kidbuntu> frogzoo: adjusting doesnt make any changes at all.
[02:27] <Kream> martyyyr:  ok, that means that the tulip module is not loaded. load it by doing sudo modprobe tulip. once lthat command finishes, do dmesg and look right at the bottom to see which network interface (ethx) the card has been detected as. if it all works fine, you'll have to edit /etc/modules and in a fresh line, enter tulip. and of course you'll have to assign IP address or set it up for DHCP as appropriate
[02:28] <kidbuntu> frogzoo: and also. my alt tab doesn't work anymore
[02:28] <martyyyr> Kream: ok.
[02:28] <kaushal> Hi
[02:28] <Kream> i gave you this block of text because i have to go
[02:28] <kaushal> I want to capture HTTPS Traffic using tcpdump command
[02:28] <Kream> kaushal, hi :) namaste
[02:28] <Kream> kaushal:  google for tcpdump syntax
[02:28] <Dubimax> I thought I did.  I have a window that says terminal at the top.  Please be pateint with me.  I am learning but slowly
[02:28] <martyyyr> Kream: Well, ok...thanks for your help!
[02:28] <Kream> and tcpdump newbie
[02:29] <kaushal> tcpdump -i eth0 -s 0 -w dump host 192.168.0.1 and host 192.168.0.2 and port 443
[02:29] <Kream> martyyyr:  you're welcome. Share and Enjoy.
[02:29] <fevel> how do I configure my network card to set only ip from dhcp. I have 2 networks and one is static ip, I wnt to add the opendns servers and use them for both dhcp and static, but dhcp changes my dns
[02:29] <kaushal> is that correct
[02:30] <Dubimax> jordan:  I thought I did.  I have a window that says terminal at the top.  Please be pateint with me.  I am learning but slowly   maybe the mistake was that I checked the box run in terminal?
[02:31] <berent> if i am burning a iso image into a cd. should it have only iso image for botting or anything else can be accomodated?
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: iso would need to be modified before burning to add things
[02:32] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Do you see any output in the terminal?
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: Are you in ubuntu at the moment or windows
[02:32] <berent> Jack_Sparrow : ubuntu
[02:32] <Jordan_U> berent, You only need to burn from the iso
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: What are you wanting to add?
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> what iso are you wanting to burn?
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: TO burn an iso just right click the iso and write to disk.
[02:33] <berent> Jordan_U Jack_Sparrow : the image is only 70MB. and once i burn rest of cd is a waste. i am planning puppy linux
[02:34] <GD77> o.O
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: Then you will need to brush up on remastering an iso..
[02:34] <GD77> evening
[02:34] <Jordan_U> berent, You can write more to it, in fact I think puppy linux has a write as you go feature
[02:35] <GD77> just installed unbuntu desktop 10 on vmware, it made a username but did not ask about a root pass so how can i config my root pass?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[02:35] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:35] <Dubimax> jordan:  here is what i did.  I presssed Alt F2 then check the box run in terminal the command that you first told me (I forgot what it was)  then I got a file and added a line w/o quotes and clicked save.  That was it.  Did I miss anything?  There is no output in the terminal.  Please advice :)
[02:35] <GD77> ok excuses i come from centos and fedora hehe
[02:35] <stefg> !root | GD77
[02:35] <ubotu> GD77: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:35] <berent> Jordan_U Jack_Sparrow : please explain. if i add other things into it and then burn it in then how will i boot.
[02:35] <GD77> those are configured upon installation
[02:36] <GD77> ok
[02:36] <jasiu> hi
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: In remastering it you leave the boot-ability alone and add files as you want.
[02:36] <jasiu> how can i change startbutton??
[02:36] <Dubimax> jordan:  here is what i did.  I presssed Alt F2 then check the box run in terminal the command that you first told me (I forgot what it was)  then I got a file and added a line w/o quotes and clicked save.  That was it.  Did I miss anything?
[02:37] <martyyyr> Is it a bad thing if eth0 doesn't show up if I do "ifconfig", but does when I do "ifconfig eth0"? I mean, that's not supposed to happen, is it?
[02:37] <joey_Liu> How to keep resolv.conf from rewrite by dhcp?
[02:38] <jasiu> HI !! HOW CAN I CHANGE THE STARTBUTTON??
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: I dont know about puppy linux but that dosent matter as until you create and run puppy linux it has no effect
[02:38] <Thursley> martyyyr: ifup eth0
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> jasiu: Are you using Kubuntu?
[02:38] <HEP85> martyyyr: this usually happen when the device is there but not configured
[02:38] <Thursley> martyyyr: it just means the interface hasn't been brought up yet
[02:38] <jasiu> ubuntu
[02:38] <jasiu> gnome
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> jasiu: Start Button?
[02:39] <jasiu> menu
[02:39] <Dubimax> jordan:  Are you there?
[02:39] <jasiu> yes
[02:39] <martyyyr> Thursley: that command gives me "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> jasiu: Where it says applications?
[02:39] <martyyyr> HEP85: How do I configure it?
[02:39] <jasiu> yes
[02:40] <Thursley> martyyyr: what about "ifconfig eth0 up" ?
[02:40] <HEP85> martyyyr: do what Thursley said
[02:40] <berent> !remastering
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remastering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <aricz> Ahhh, can anyone please help me with mounting my DVD-rom ? I can't find anything in /dev .. dmesg doesn't give me anything.. /etc/fstab shows I have 2 cd-roms dvd-roms.. anyone know how I should do this?
[02:40] <dissection> How do I kill all instances of firefox, from the terminal?
[02:41] <stefg> sudo killall firefox
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: In windows I use a product called ultra ISO, even though the program is not what you can use the info there will help you understand remastering..
[02:41] <gbw> hello, how can i mount from a samba server?
[02:41] <stefg> !samba
[02:41] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:41] <martyyyr> Thursley, HEP85: That seems to work, I think. (The LED of my NIC just turned on and it shows up when I type ifconfig now). What did I just do, tho?
[02:41] <dissection> stefg: It says no process killed.
[02:41] <HEP85> martyyyr: you just activated it
[02:42] <Thursley> martyyyr: you told ifconfig to bring up the device. Kream showed you how to find the right module for it to use and install that
[02:42] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Yes, I'm back
[02:42] <martyyyr> HEP85: Please tell me I don't have to do that every time my system boots..
[02:42] <stefg> dissection: sudo killall firefox-bin
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> jasiu: If you are trying to make it an icon or something I dont know what will do that.. there is the gconf-editor but not sure that is going to do what you want
[02:42] <martyyyr> Thursley: Yeah, he did.. it's starting to make sense now.
[02:42] <Thursley> martyyyr: you will have to add flower to the modules being loaded as he said. /etc/modules
[02:43] <jasiu> yes
[02:43] <Thursley> flower = tulip -.-
[02:43] <chadeldridge> good morning everyone
[02:43] <jasiu> i want to change icon of my menu
[02:43] <Dubimax> Jordan:  here is what i did.  I presssed Alt F2 then check the box run in terminal the command that you first told me (I forgot what it was)  then I got a file and added a line w/o quotes and clicked save.  That was it.  Did I miss anything?
[02:43] <jasiu> ahh
[02:43] <jasiu> ok
[02:43] <jasiu> bye
[02:43] <jasiu> thx
[02:43] <martyyyr> Thursley: lol, nice mistake :)  Anyway, so if I have tulip in the modules file, everything will be fine from now on?
[02:43] <HEP85> martyyyr: normally the script in /etc/init.d/networking should do this at bootup
[02:44] <dissection> stefg: That worked, thanks.
[02:44] <Thursley> martyyyr: you will also have to check the settings for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:44] <chadeldridge> does anyone have nagios installed or know about the check_snmp module?
[02:44] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Yes, you now need to run this in a terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc"
[02:45] <Sleeper> hi
[02:45] <Bassetts> what do I need to install to get mp3,mov,wma,wmv,dvd,flash,aac,real player all working in totem-xine
[02:45] <Dubimax> jordan:  I will do this and report.  This chat list is huge. Is there a way to see just what you wrote to me so I review and maybe help others one day?
[02:45] <martyyyr> Thursley: Ok, I think I can handle that. Thanks!
[02:45] <Jordan_U> Bassetts, Why are you using totem-xine?
[02:46] <martyyyr> and HEP85: thanks to you too.
[02:46] <Thursley> martyyyr: you are welcome, but Kream did all the hardwork ;)
[02:46] <Bassetts> Jordan_U, it seems to work better than totem-gstreamer
[02:46] <HEP85> martyyyr: no problem
[02:46] <martyyyr> Thursley: That may be true, but without your and HEP85's info I would still be stuck :)
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Dubimax: FYI, I keep a notepad open and copy good ideas into it all the time and have it as a reference
[02:47] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, You can search for my name in the logs
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Seoke: try and sell your copy of XP..:)
[02:47] <berent> Jordan_U Jack_Sparrow : i am planning to buy a dvd-rw  for all my cd/dvd rw purpose. i am confused about the speeds . i have a 20x DVD+R DL RW drive . how many should i go for and which company is the best.
[02:47] <Seoke> Jack_Sparrow: You mean my ripped copy? xDD
[02:47] <togr> any numpy experts here?
[02:48] <frogzoo> !anyone | togr
[02:48] <ubotu> togr: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:48] <Jordan_U> berent, No idea :)
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: Havent found any best, I do love my Plextor over my others.. but best is very subjective
[02:48] <togr> thanks, frogzoo but if there is a more python-related channel, I would go there
[02:49] <Dubimax> jordan:  It seems to be installing right now.  I will let u know
[02:49] <togr> I want to know how numpy.logical_and is supposed to behave for >2 inputs
[02:50] <togr> right now I have
[02:50] <togr> np.logical_and(ar([True, False] ), ar([True, True] ), ar([False, True] ))
[02:50] <Bassetts> Jordan_U, it seems to work better than totem-gstreamer
[02:50] <togr> -> array([True, False] , dtype=bool)
[02:50] <Bassetts> what do I need to install to get mp3,mov,wma,wmv,dvd,flash,aac,real player all working
[02:51] <togr> and I cannot for the life of me see how that would be correct
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted > Bassetts
[02:51] <Bassetts> Jack_Sparrow, that does not seem to cover mp3 for feisty
[02:51] <sniff_> when network line too slow, my eth0 was droped. any fix?
[02:52] <Johto> Bassetts: some gstreamer stuff
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Bassetts: There is a link on that link to the mp3 specific page
[02:52] <Johto> Bassetts: codec stuff, check the ubuntuguides
[02:52] <hamza> hey guys any one know how to run a DVD???? totem player says codec needed??
[02:52] <dsg> Is anyone familiar with the development of the webcam driver m560x ? Its seems to have been going on since 2005 and still new laptops today are shipped with those cams, seems weird nobody has got a working driver yet -_-
[02:52] <Johto> Bassetts: tehre are whole guide section for those media formats
[02:53] <genii> !codecs
[02:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:54] <hamza> hey guys any one know how to run a DVD???? totem player says codec needed??
[02:54] <kagemaro> download the codec
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> hamza: Read above on restricted formats
[02:54] <hamza> which codev
[02:54] <hamza> which codec
[02:54] <aricz> Ok, after shutting down my computer, punching it, both my CD-rom and DVD-rom is working.. BUT, I still can't mount them. Could anyone help me out here?
[02:55] <kagemaro> libdvdcss2
[02:55] <kagemaro> iirc
[02:55] <hamza> ok jack_sparrow.. im doing that rite now
[02:55] <Seoke> You know its impossible to make 50 dollars in 4 hours -_- the militarys gonna kick my ass xD
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Seoke: Call one of your buddies, they always help their team
[02:56] <kagemaro> Seoke - how it it impossible to make $50 in 4 hours? lol
[02:56] <dsg> just freeload some gas from a lone car somewhere
[02:56] <Dubimax> jordan.  I am almost there.  The vlc player is there and open but how do I actually listen to the radiosai.org music (when I click on listen now it wants me to get a plug in)
[02:56] <Seoke> Jack_Sparrow: They live where I'm trying to get xD that would be pointless
[02:56] <frogzoo> aricz: typicallys removable media gets automounted
[02:56] <dsg> or goto a marina, always lots of gas cans in boats
[02:56] <Seoke> kagemaro: I'm trying to make $50 by 11 AM my time... /failing horribly
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Seoke: This is all off topic, but one of them will come get you..
[02:57] <aricz> frogzoo : yep, but not here, it has worked earlier, but suddenly it seems the device drivers aren't in /etc anymore
[02:57] <aricz> frogzoo : sorry, /dev
[02:57] <Seoke> Jack_Sparrow: They live 3 hours away in the same town as my unit xD
[02:57] <dsg> hitchhaik
[02:57] <frogzoo> aricz: ls -l /dev/cdrom /dev/dvdrw
[02:58] <genii> aricz This means they are not being detected at a hardware level then
[02:58] <Dubimax> jordan:  are you still there?
[02:58] <aricz> frogzoo : finds nothing
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Seoke: So much for planning ahead.. No one here can help and again.. this is off topic... although we feel for your situation..
[02:58] <aricz> genii: yep, that's what I've been suspecting too.. since dmesg | grep CD gives me nothing
[02:58] <frogzoo> aricz: ls -l /dev/scd0
[02:58] <aricz> frogzoo : nothing
[02:59] <Seoke> Jack_Sparrow: Wasnt asking for help xD Just needed somewhere to vent and this was the first IRC channel open xDD
[02:59] <frogzoo> aricz: ls -l /dev/sc{a,b,c,d,e}0
[02:59] <str0> can anyone help me with IRQ BIOS settings for 2 video cards ?
[02:59] <aricz> the weird thing is it worked couple of weeks ago.. :)
[02:59] <aricz> frogzoo : nothing
[02:59] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Yes
[03:00] <frogzoo> aricz: ls -l /dev/sd{a,b,c,d,e}0
[03:00] <frogzoo> aricz: ls -l /dev/{h,s}d{a,b,c,d,e}0
[03:00] <aricz> frogzoo : nothing
[03:00] <genii> aricz I'd suggest pulling the drive out and testing it in another box first to see if it's defective
[03:01] <genii> aricz If it works in the other box we know it's a software issue
[03:01] <genii> (or a local hardware detection issue or similar)
[03:01] <aricz> genii, it worked with w9x and wxp.. and also this distro, for some time :)
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> aricz: Id try to boot a live cd in it before physically pulling it out
[03:01] <frogzoo> aricz: what changed?
[03:01] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: Not a bad suggestion
[03:02] <aricz> frogzoo : I don't know..
[03:02] <aricz> frogzoo : that's the problem hehe
[03:02] <frogzoo> aricz: yet the hd is found ?
[03:03] <aricz> frogzoo : but I remember someone her told me months ago (I had similar problem with this when I first installed ubuntu) .. to remove the DVD-rom.. just use one of the drives
[03:03] <genii> aricz You may want to try going to BIOS on the box, making sure that all HD are set to "auto" or "autodetect"
[03:03] <kidbuntu> frogzoo: the accessibilty for mouse doesn't work
[03:03] <aricz> genii : ok, will do
[03:03] <frogzoo> aricz: you been fiddling with hal settings?
[03:04] <aricz> frogzoo : nope, nothing advanced has been done on this OS
[03:04] <frogzoo> aricz: ide or sata or scsi cds?
[03:04] <mind_shift> how do I mount a hard drive automatically? I have added hdb in fstab, but it's not working.
[03:04] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, go to File -> Open Network Stream
[03:04] <naderman> hi, I'm trying to do aptitude dist-upgrade, but I get a message, that the package index files are corrupt, they don't contain a filename field for tzdata
[03:04] <darkempress> having sound issues for some odd reason in feisty...can i get some help?
[03:04] <aricz> frogzoo : ide
[03:04] <naderman> can't find anything on that problem online
[03:04] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, And at the bottom put http://www.radiosai.org/Pages/AfriStream.asx as the URL
[03:05] <aricz> frogzoo : I think, not 100% sure.. I know, this is something I should know.. :)
[03:05] <genii> If you just added a new CD/DVD to same cable, make sure the jumpers are correct (best normally to set both for cable select)
[03:05] <frogzoo> aricz: on same drive chain as another drive?
[03:05] <royel> mind_shift: pastebin your fstab file
[03:05] <aricz> frogzoo : don't know
[03:05] <mind_shift> royel: /dev/hdb        /media/disk     defaults                  0       0
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> mind_shift: I use a script called diskmounter that places icon of my other drives on the desktop
[03:05] <aricz> genii : yeah, I added the dvd-rom couple of years ago, it worked nicely in wxp at the time
[03:05] <frogzoo> aricz: well I'd check master/slave jumper settings on all your drives
[03:06] <Dubimax> jordan:  I got the vlc player to recognize the url http://stream.radiosai.net:8006  but there is no sound.  Try it on you machine and see if you hear.  If yes llet us find why it does not work for me.
[03:06] <darkempress> sound was working last night, now i can't get any sound to work...ruled out inproperly plugged in speakers, and lspci lists an intel integrated soundcard
[03:06] <frogzoo> aricz: if anything's set to cable select, change it
[03:06] <mind_shift> oh, I forgot the filesystem type
[03:06] <royel> mind_shift: /dev/hdb <-- change this to /dev/hdbx  where x is the partition number
[03:06] <frogzoo> darkempress: check sound -> volume control for mutes
[03:06] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, It works here, do you get any sound from any program?
[03:06] <mind_shift> royel: It's a one partition harddrive
[03:06] <zeldafan500> I Disagree
[03:06] <Houdini_Noob> hello
[03:07] <aricz> frogzoo : so if the jumpers are set wrongly, would it sometimes work and sometimes not?
[03:07] <B-rabbit> hi
[03:07] <mind_shift> so it should be hdb1?
[03:07] <aricz> frogzoo : which is my case
[03:07] <zeldafan500> lol, no
[03:07] <Dubimax> jordan.  Yes, when the computer logs on I hear sound.
[03:07] <frogzoo> aricz: it's not impossible
[03:07] <zeldafan500> I Disagree
[03:07] <darkempress> frogzoo, no sound still
[03:07] <Houdini_Noob> having difficulty with a rar file in ubuntu
[03:07] <zeldafan500> That's irrelivent
[03:07] <Jordan_U> Houdini_Noob, sudo apt-get install unrar
[03:07] <mind_shift> rebooting
[03:07] <zeldafan500> I Disagree
[03:08] <zeldafan500> lol, no
[03:08] <aricz> frogzoo : ok, thanks, both you and genii :) I'll try fidling a bit with the drivers, bbl
[03:08] <Houdini_Noob> thank you Jordan_U
[03:08] <frogzoo> darkempress: close all your sound apps, reboot, & try again - making sure none of your apps are set to use OSS
[03:08] <Jordan_U> Houdini_Noob, np
[03:08] <zeldafan500> Try google
[03:08] <zeldafan500> no, what the other guy sayd.
[03:08] <genii> aricz: frogzoo is right , when both are set to cable select (factory defaults these days) and one fails, the other automatically is supposed to become the master drive. but it sometimes goes screwy because the defective one is still on the cable sending erratic signals etc. So the one at end of cable should be master, in the middle of cable should be slave
[03:08] <zeldafan500> lol timer jokes
[03:08] <zeldafan500> I Disagree
[03:08] <zeldafan500> That's irrelivent
[03:08] <zeldafan500> lol, no
[03:08] <zeldafan500> no, what the other guy sayd.
[03:08] <zeldafan500> I Disagree
[03:08] <darkempress> frogzoo, i have no idea how to get amarok or rythmbox to show me whether they are using oss
[03:09] <aricz> genii : but now both my CD-rom and DVD-rom runs.. after as I said, shut down the computer and gave my box a good punch in the side..
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> aricz: If punching it did anything.. you have a loose cable
[03:09] <Dubimax> ordan.  Yes, when the computer logs on I hear sound.
[03:10] <Hrv> hi, im having som problems, i just installed ubuntu and when i log in i get a error message saying a error accured in booting the gnome settings deamon and a error code saying: "Process /usr/lib/control-center/gnome-settings-daemon received signal 11"
[03:10] <genii> aricz: Could be you jarred something loose inside, like a connector or so.But unlikely. I've smacked my box hundreds of times with no ill effects other than sore hands
[03:10] <darkempress> frogzoo, i get no sounds in ubuntu either...and vlc wont give sound...
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> genii: If a punch made any change then there is something loose
[03:11] <kidbuntu> help me please. alt tab button doesnt work
[03:11] <aricz> genii: hehe, I don't know, it happens sometimes the bios won't find the DVD-rom or CD-rom.. but now that's not the problem, since they both starts up at startup (spins, I can eject etc etc)
[03:11] <royel> genii: lol, sore hands! ;)
[03:11] <frogzoo> darkempress: OSS/ALSA is an option in sound apps - find the option is left as an exercise
[03:11] <royel> genii: try using a hammer instead, I find that to be less painful an generally more productive :)
[03:11] <darkempress> O.o
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> aricz: Does the bios see them both..?
[03:12] <cewek_kebelet> hiiiiiiii
[03:12] <Frawgie> aricz, that just means they have power.  they would both spin and open/close even if no data cable were plugged in.
[03:12] <genii> aricz If you smacked it exactly next to one of the CD/DVD drives you may have messed the drive itself up but not likely
[03:12] <Snitz> Hello
[03:12] <Snitz> ANyone here?
[03:12] <aricz> genii : yep, that's what I did.. :) but they worked a couple of weeks ago, I'm not sure what happened meanwhile
[03:12] <naderman> my problem appears to be related to this bug: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg274674.html
[03:12] <frogzoo> can we please avoid belting people's hardware, especially while disks are spinning???
[03:12] <naderman> but there is no workaround on there?
[03:12] <Dubimax> Frogzoo: OSS/ALSA is an option in sound apps - can you help me on this I am a complete beginner
[03:12] <genii> royel I actually threw one of my previous computers out the window before
[03:12] <royel> Snitz: were all out for lunch
[03:13] <Snitz> I have a problem regarding the pppoe
[03:13] <naderman> nobody aware of a way to make it work again?
[03:13] <aricz> genii: or, they used to change.. sometimes the DVD-rom was working, sometimes the CD-rom.. never both at once
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> frogzoo: Agreed..
[03:13] <genii> aricz: That symptom sounds like the master/slave/cable select issue
[03:13] <fevel> I have no music in vegastrike...strange thing is when I put on an mp3 and open the game....the game music kicks in just to piss me off...any ideas?? ubuntu 7.04
[03:13] <Snitz> Anyone please?
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> frogzoo: No one told him to do it, he was telling us what he had already done..
[03:13] <Hrv> does anyone know why ubuntu cant load the gnome settings deamon at startup?
[03:13] <genii> eg: One drive dies/is dying then both/1/none work
[03:13] <ikonia> what is the correct syntax to make sudo not ask for a password, I know you can do ALL = NOPASSWORD: ALL
[03:14] <jsestri2> Does anyone know how to change the thermal trip points? My computer is overheating
[03:14] <ikonia> but that asks you for a password but doesn't matter what you enter
[03:14] <aricz> genii: ok, so I should just shut down, open my box.. and change jumpers.. are those jumpers easily understandable? :)
[03:14] <frogzoo> Jack_Sparrow: sure sure
[03:14] <ikonia> I want to do ALL = NOPASSWORDPROMPT: ALL
[03:14] <royel> Snitz: theres no line, best to just ask your question an hope someone here is able to help, generally if there is you get an answer, if not try later ;)
[03:14] <jsestri2> #ubuntu+!
[03:15] <darkempress> frogzoo, i went into System->Preferences->sound and can't seem to get anything to put out sound...
[03:15] <Dubimax> can anyone help me to get the sound to work with the vlc player?
[03:15] <genii> aricz: Usually there are 3 sets of pins.Next to power is master, next is slave and one next to ribbon is cable select. USUALLY. But look at stamping on metal of case or writing on circuit board to make sure
[03:15] <genii> work, AFK
[03:15] <erUSUL> !sound | Dubimax
[03:15] <ubotu> Dubimax: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:15] <erUSUL> Dubimax: make sure vlc is configured to use alsa
[03:15] <jsestri2> I'm trying to change the temperatures that the CPU throttles at, but I don't seem to have the trip point files?
[03:15] <darkempress> nevermind :D
[03:15] <darkempress> stupid headsets >.>
[03:16] <Snitz> I just want to know how to set a SERVICE NAME in the pppoeconf as I use a username and a password a long with a service name. PLEASE HELP!
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> genii: Remember that is assuming they are on the same cable...
[03:16] <aricz> genii : ok, thank you so much for your help&time .. I'll try and come back later :)
[03:16] <darkempress> frogzoo, i don't suppose you can help with amarok crashing?
[03:16] <meismine> hello guys .. Im facing one problem which is whenever i press ctrl+alt, the scroll lock LED will lighting up and the text when I type becomes unreadable. I believe, It is the problem from keyboard setting but I dont know how to setting it. Any1 here can help me? TQ
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> genii: They can both be slave on different cables..  :)
[03:16] <royel> !pppoe | Snitz
[03:16] <ubotu> Snitz: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[03:17] <frogzoo> darkempress: address the chan
[03:17] <genii> Back
[03:17] <darkempress> amarok keeps putting up a "can't find kmail" type message and crashing once you close kmail
[03:17] <Snitz> ubotu, I'll have a look at it!
[03:17] <Snitz> !pppoe
[03:17] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[03:17] <B-rabbit> hi, everyone can anyone help me...i think a hacker has gain entry to my system....i think this because when i type the "history" command on my terminal, i get this random previous commands that i have not use....now, can any one tell me what to do, or what website i should go to to find the information
[03:17] <meismine>   <---- ths is the example once i press ctrl+alt
[03:17] <darkempress> er, once you close the message
[03:17] <Frawgie> aricz what I would do to see if its a jumped/cable problem is siply unlplug one of the drives and go into the BIOS and see what position its taking such as primary master, primary slave, secondary master, secondary slave.  then switch  the drive over to the other one and just make sure they dont occupy the same place.  plug them into their original cable plugs though, not the same one.
[03:17] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: Yes, this true and it was wrong for me to automatically assume this was the configuration actually
[03:18] <royel> B-rabbit: change your passwords
[03:18] <darkempress> when i launch amarok in terminal, it doesn't give any specific errors, but i've already ruled out soundcard failure
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> genii: Just trying to cover all bases..
[03:18] <royel> B-rabbit: look for any new users that you haven't setup an remove them
[03:18] <scorp123> meismine: those are cyrillic letters :-)
[03:18] <darkempress> it does however say that there is a bad device or something
[03:18] <scorp123> meismine: looks like you are switching your language to Russian or something like that :-)
[03:18] <B-rabbit> royel:do you mean my root password
[03:18] <B-rabbit> ?
[03:19] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: I figured they were both on same cable because if HD on same ribbon, then it would be CD and hd weirdnesses too
[03:19] <meismine> scorp123: then what should I do? .. I cant to log off using ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:19] <Snitz> That is not working, there is no place to enter a service name :S
[03:19] <scorp123> meismine: you're not supposed to log off using ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:19] <royel> B-rabbit: specifically I would change the passwords on the user that your suspecting they might have gained access to, your root user should NOT be enabled by default
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> genii: It is amazing the different configurations of hardware that will show up..
[03:19] <scorp123> meismine: ctrol-alt-backspace is for killing your desktop session (= unclean + ugly shutdown)
[03:20] <zach> where is the best way to have a script load on boot up?
[03:20] <meismine> o
[03:20] <aantn> !seen
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <Snitz> That is not working, there is no place to enter a service name :S
[03:20] <meismine> so that .. I cant do that .. what should i do to disable that ctrl+alt function?
[03:21] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: Yes, this is very true.
[03:21] <aantn> kk
[03:21] <robertj> anyone in gutsy getting  symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/libspell680lp.so: undefined symbol: _ZN8Hunspell5spellEPKc
[03:21] <scorp123> meismine: check your locale settings + keyboard settings. You probably configured something that will switch the keyboard layout once cotrl-alt is presses
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> genii: The info you were giving would be right 99 out of 100 times...
[03:22] <robert_> X segfaults after not being able to load the wfb module- HELP
[03:22] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: Just yesterday in fact some guy had a Zip drive set up for HD mode on the IDE and finally figured out he had no disk in it, that is wasn't a defective internal HD of some sort after all
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> genii: YEp that will do it.
[03:23] <meismine> ok .. tq dude
[03:23] <meismine> :D
[03:23] <ari_stress> !apt-catcher
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-catcher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <mypapit> do you mean apt-cache?
[03:23] <ari_stress> what is apt-catcher?
[03:23] <genii> ari_stress: Did you mean apt-cahe ?
[03:23] <genii> cache rather
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> genii: I am going to make some hardware changes .then reinstall.. back later.. take care.
[03:23] <meismine> eh .. what is the short cut to run terminal from keyboard? .. hehe .. I forgot d .. :P
[03:23] <robert_> X segfaults after not being able to load the wfb module- HELP
[03:23] <Frawgie> ok, *cracks knuckles*, who wants to play with nvidia drivers today?
[03:23] <B-rabbit> royel:  B-rabbit: specifically I would change the passwords on the user that your suspecting they might have gained access to, your root user should NOT be enabled by defaulti...... am sure the hacker has gain entry to my root account, but i dont understand about the defult thing that you sfecified
[03:23] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: Have fun :)
[03:23] <ari_stress> mypapit: a friend of mine wants to setup a server so that clients dont have to download from the internet for updates/installation
[03:24] <mypapit> ok
[03:25] <zzco_> uh, yeah- it's still robert_ here
[03:25] <zzco_> nick zzco
[03:25] <zzco> bah
[03:25] <royel> B-rabbit: did you enable the root account at any time?
[03:25] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, use http://www.radiosai.org/Pages/AfriStream.asx  not http://stream.radiosai.net:8006
[03:26] <royel> B-rabbit: try this: sudo last root
[03:27] <finn> is there an easy way to have my /home/ moved to my second hdd?
[03:27] <zzco> I'm trying to update my installed packages, and then reboot
[03:27] <billcase> Hi;  I have some installation questions.  Is there a better Ubuntu IRC dealing just with installation?
[03:27] <Jordan_U> billcase, no
[03:28] <Jordan_U> billcase, What's the question?
[03:28] <scorp123> billcase: try the forums
[03:28] <billcase> OK,
[03:28] <Dubimax> jordan:  I did but still there is no sound.
[03:29] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, In your last comment you said you used http://stream.radiosai.net:8006
[03:30] <royel> finn: it's not that hard to do
[03:30] <royel> finn: one sec, I am looking for a guide that I can link you
[03:30] <finn> thank you
[03:30] <Dubimax> jordan: yes, but I changed it.  It seems there the music is streaming but no sound something more basic needs to be adjusted
[03:30] <royel> finn: here's something, should do pretty good: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[03:30] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, Try opening the video that comes with ubuntu in vlc
[03:31] <finn> thank you
[03:32] <Dubimax> jordan.  I cannot find it.
[03:34] <thefourmi> bonjour
[03:34] <Pici> !fr | thefourmi
[03:34] <ubotu> thefourmi: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:34] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, It should be in your home folder
[03:35] <zzco> what the hell is the wfb module?
[03:35] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, It's in a folder named "Examples" in your home folder
[03:36] <aantn> !irc
[03:36] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[03:36] <tafkaz> why wont i see any /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status with ubuntu feisty ?
[03:36] <tafkaz> cat: /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status: No such file or directory
[03:37] <darkempress> could a broken xine install break amarok?
[03:37] <Dubimax> jordan:  I tried open disc also. does not work.
[03:38] <mc44> darkempress: yes, amarok uses xine
[03:39] <darkempress> mc44, gxine and amarok both keep crashing on me when i start them, and gxine just flat out segfaults
[03:40] <darkempress> can't figure out why
[03:40] <Dubimax> jordan:
[03:41] <Dimensions> hiyaa ... i had installed XP with ubuntu but couldn't bring up the grub ... and was booting to xp ... just followed a tutorial online to reinstall grub ... but now neither partitions are booting ... when i boot it says 'Select Proper Boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key'
[03:41] <zzco> grr
[03:41] <pi-meson> What's the best way to have a program run during/at-the-same-time as gdm?
[03:41] <Dubimax> jordan: I found an mp3 file that seems to be playing since the numbers in the vlc player are changing yet there is no sound.   Something more basic needs to be fixed.
[03:41] <Frawgie> anyone know how to get ubuntu to utilize both my cpu? its only seeing 1 of em
[03:41] <frogzoo> darkempress: on feisty?
[03:42] <darkempress> frogzoo, yep
[03:42] <frogzoo> darkempress: run a memtest
[03:42] <zzco> X still crashes
[03:42] <zzco> gah
[03:42] <darkempress> frogzoo, how?
[03:42] <kenro> What does 'to be slashdotted' mean?
[03:42] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, I don't know, it might be fixed in Feisty
[03:43] <genii> The generic kernel should be SMP already. If you installed some non smp kernel or compiled your own that may be why it only sees 1 cpu
[03:43] <tafkaz> i really need to have the agp output
[03:43] <frogzoo> darkempress: it's an option fro the grub prompt
[03:43] <aricz> Ok, box is open, DVD-rom is out.. now what? :) shouldn't my CD-rom at least work now? Since DVD-rom is in my hands.. :p
[03:43] <zzco> okay
[03:43] <Jordan_U> kenro, To have slashdot link to your puny server being run out or your basement at which point your site dies a bloody death :)
[03:43] <zzco> going to a new kernel, hopefully that quiets everything
[03:43] <magnetron> genii: that's what she said
[03:44] <Frawgie> genii its a clean install, haven't changed a thing yet its only reporting 1 cpu in the hardware list
[03:44] <darkempress> frogzoo, and why exactly would i need to run a memtest for one app segfaulting?
[03:44] <Dubimax> jordan:  ok.  I will get the newer version and proceed slowly.  Appreciate your help and ubotu's also.
[03:44] <genii> Frawgie: Ah, OK. No immediate idea then.
[03:44] <genii> aricz: Is the cd still remianing in there set to master and on the end of the cable?
[03:44] <Jordan_U> !upgrade > Dubimax
[03:45] <zzco> help?
[03:45] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, You should have just gotten a PM from ubotu with upgrade instructions
[03:45] <kenro> Jordan_U, I read that term in a post wherein poster bemoaned being slashdotted before he could even get the posting up. Or something.
[03:45] <aricz> genii : hoh, I don't know.. so I have to get out the cd-rom too
[03:45] <Dubimax> jordan:  When I close this chat room I can get the log and see everything you showed me?  By the way I just heard a sound.  did you send it to me?
[03:45] <Frawgie> whats the best free forum software out there?
[03:45] <genii> aricz: Not really
[03:46] <genii> aricz: Just look at the ribbon and see if it's plugged in the end or middle
[03:46] <aricz> genii : there was many jumperslots on the back of the dvd-rom..
[03:46] <Dubimax> jordan:  what is PM?
[03:46] <aricz> genii : ok, if I manage to see anything from the little view I can get into the box
[03:46] <aricz> tight stuff here
[03:46] <Jordan_U> Dubimax, It is a personal message
[03:46] <frogzoo> Frawgie: plone & zope are good, not straightforward to setup
[03:46] <padee> hi everyone... any bookkeeping gurus here? ive got troubles with sql-ledger...
[03:46] <zzco> Dubimax: private message.
[03:46] <Jordan_U> !logs | Dubimax
[03:46] <Frawgie> frogzoo phpbb2 any good?
[03:46] <ubotu> Dubimax: Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[03:46] <mcsd> private message
[03:47] <kenro> Jordan_U,  Thanks, and never mind any else. :)
[03:47] <Dubimax> jordan;  How do I read it?  Is it email?
[03:47] <zzco> Jordan_U: it's private, not personal :P
[03:47] <zzco> even though they're the same thing
[03:47] <Jordan_U> Meh, private personal it's too late for me to tell the difference :)
[03:47] <genii> aricz: If you have the cd on the end of the ribbon and set (as best you can) to master, and then the OS still doesn't see it, then shut down and swap the drives. eg, remove CD, insert DVD same spot, then see again if OS sees it etc
[03:47] <genii> work, AFK
[03:48] <aricz> genii : ok, thanks.. the jumper at the back of the CD-rom was at the same spot as the jumper on the DVD-rom
[03:49] <aricz> genii : from the view back, LEFT.. and there is a spot in the MIDDLE and RIGHT.. 3 jumperspots
[03:49] <zzco> anyway
[03:49] <aricz> genii : ah, work..
[03:49] <zzco> MY X LIGHTS ITSELF ON FIRE
[03:50] <jsestri2> !ubotu dist-upgrade
[03:50] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:50] <kenro> zzco, As long as itdoesn't sing Arthur Brown songs when it does,
[03:50] <genii> back
[03:50] <zzco> kenro- it segfaults on backtrace
[03:51] <genii> aricz: OK, normally on most of them the Master is the one next to the power cable
[03:51] <swmiller6> oldpink: did you get it installed
[03:51] <genii> aricz: So for testing, put a single drive on Master, on the end of the cable
[03:51] <kenro> zzco, You using hte gibbon?
[03:51] <zzco> nope
[03:51] <zzco> feisty
[03:52] <zzco> (lots of Xorg message)
[03:52] <zzco> \n
[03:52] <zzco> Backtrace:
[03:52] <zzco> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:52] <jsestri2> Has anyone tried upgrading from dapper -> edgy lately? The online instructions fail...
[03:52] <genii> !pastebin
[03:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:52] <darkempress> grrr..how can memory cause a segfault?
[03:53] <zzco> darkempress: bad ram :P
[03:53] <Ghost_> Hello...    Can somrbody help me
[03:53] <AnRkey> sup Ghost_
[03:53] <darkempress> zzco, nothing else is segfaulting...and anything that needs xine is crashing...
[03:53] <kenro> zzco, I barely comprehend the point of segfault, anyway. But you might have the wrong settings in the server.
[03:54] <zzco> hm
[03:54] <Ghost_> my zyxel modem
[03:54] <mc44> jsestri2: fail how?
[03:54] <darkempress> zzco, i saw mention of a libxine bug in google
[03:54] <zzco> ah
[03:54] <jsestri2> its having trouble getting certain files (Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2))
[03:54] <zzco> I wish they'd fix that thing which makex X go kaboom
[03:54] <jsestri2> mc44: what repos should I have on?
[03:55] <zzco> makes X**
[03:55] <qrt> I have a file made by Revelation password manager and I need to open it in Windows, does anyone know how I can do that?
[03:55] <zzco> well
[03:55] <zzco> that went well
[03:55] <AnRkey> qrt, is is a csv or text file?
[03:55] <Ghost_> i cant get my TS server online because my zyxel adsl modem is blokking it some how need HELP!
[03:56] <jsestri2> mc44: I have dapper-updates, main, restricted, multiverse, universe (for the ubuntu dapper officals)
[03:56] <qrt> AnRkey: I'm not sure, the file doesn't have a file extension, I guess it's the standard format for Revelation
[03:56] <yinghao> hi
[03:56] <yinghao> i have a question
[03:56] <mc44> jsestri2: yeah that should be fine, you are using the update-manager right?
[03:56] <hugifrb> mghhhhh fglrx geht noch immer nicht
[03:56] <jsestri2> yes
[03:56] <yinghao> i like to run XEN with debian
[03:56] <jsestri2> mc44:yes
[03:56] <hugifrb> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:56] <AnRkey> wrt try notepad++ to see what's inside it
[03:56] <mc44> !de | hugifrb
[03:56] <ubotu> hugifrb: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:57] <hugifrb> sry
[03:57] <jsestri2> mc44: maybe I don't need universe? I forget what they all mean
[03:57] <hugifrb> my fault
[03:57] <AnRkey> Ghost_, are you using adsl or sdsl?
[03:57] <kenro> yinghao, You would.
[03:57] <yinghao> then i need to recompile the kernel right?
[03:57] <genii> qrt You could try just a text editor like notepad, if it looks all gibberish you know it's not flat text
[03:57] <Ghost_> ADSL  i thing
[03:57] <AnRkey> ok
[03:57] <mc44> jsestri2: no, that shouldn't matter. May just be a temporary problem with the archive
[03:57] <AnRkey> what model xyzel router?
[03:57] <qrt> genii, well I know it's not flat text since it's encrypted.
[03:57] <mind_shift> how do I change the brown login and the loading theme?
[03:57] <Ghost_> Sec i go look
[03:58] <OldPink> swmiller6, on the laptop now ;)
[03:58] <kenro> Does anyone use ROXbox?
[03:58] <jsestri2> mc44: hmm, shouldn't it be going for edgy stuff anyways? do i ahve to change my sources.lst like if i were to do it with an apt dist-upgrade?
[03:58] <AnRkey> kenro, i do on my iriver
[03:58] <mc44> jsestri2: no, if you are using update-manager it does it automatically
[03:58] <AnRkey> kenro, works nicely with ubuntu now
[03:58] <zzco> gah
[03:58] <mc44> jsestri2: your error is for the edgy repos
[03:58] <Ghost_> p-660wh d1 AnRkey
[03:58] <genii> qrt Since stuff like MD5 etc is one-way encryption then there would not usually be a way to un-encrypt it, even natively in linux
[03:59] <AnRkey> Ghost_, give me a sec
[03:59] <zzco> "Error running install command for nvidia"
[03:59] <Ghost_> kk
[03:59] <tck> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-3/
[03:59] <aricz> Ah, could anyone else try helping me getting my DVD-rom working? I've now taken out the CD-rom, switched DVD-rom to master.. but still can't mount
[03:59] <jsestri2> mc44: hmph, hopefully it works later then I suppose
[03:59] <genii> aricz: I'm still around :)
[03:59] <kenro> AnRkey, RISC on X, over fluxbox, is still a viable alternative?
[03:59] <aricz> ahh, spleeedid!:)
[03:59] <qrt> genii, this is a password manager file though so it'd be useless if I couldn't decrypt it.
[03:59] <aricz> +N
[03:59] <aricz> whops..
[04:00] <AnRkey> kenro, donno
[04:00] <aricz> genii : you said something about the BIOS.. what should I do there?
[04:00] <AnRkey> i use rockbox on my iriver
[04:00] <qrt> I can open the file just fine with Revelation but Linux doesn't work for me anymore and no one at Ubuntuforums or Linuxquestions could help me so I'm stuck with Windows.
[04:00] <Come> hello people!
[04:00] <bullgard4> Using the 'Create_Launcher' dialog I created a panel applet. It works all right. What is the filename of this Launcher?
[04:00] <genii> qrt: No. The computer does not unencrypt anything in there. It just runs the password you give thru same encryption as in the file, sees if the results are the same. no un-encrypting involved
[04:00] <aricz> genii : now cd-rom is out of the box, only dvd-rom.. jumper on master (I think, at the LEFT when you see it from the back)..
[04:00] <Arso> Hello.
[04:00] <OldPink> To avoid typing out a huge paragraph in IRC, I'd like to refer people to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3044877#post3044877 and ask for a response to it, please? :)
[04:00] <Ghost_> >:/
[04:00] <kenro> AnRkey, Ah. nono, I say ROXbox. :)
[04:01] <aricz> genii : also, a wire which said "master" is put on.. not sure what those are called.. quite wide one, many pins
[04:01] <genii> aricz: The jumper should be on the one closest to the power plug for the drive
[04:01] <Come> :)
[04:01] <zzco> yay
[04:01] <zzco> almost
[04:01] <pppoe_dude> any ideas how i can burn an hfs+ image on ubuntu? i am now able to mount it, and file gives me Macintosh HFS Extended version 4 data
[04:01] <zzco> it isnt segfaulting anymore
[04:01] <Arso> Hey guys, i currently have windows Vista on a 40gb partition. i plan on formatting that drive, and installing ubuntu and windows Xp(for gaming). how do you recommend i partition the drive?
[04:01] <aricz> genii: oh, so I should put it on the RIGHT ?
[04:01] <genii> aricz If the one saying "master" is on then don't mess with it. Just put it on end of cable
[04:01] <sn0> OldPink there are no official builds for feisty
[04:01] <kenro> zzco,  How'd you fix?
[04:02] <zzco> upgraded my kernel
[04:02] <nerdygirl_ellie> hi!
[04:02] <kenro> doh!
[04:02] <qrt> genii, Well, It shows me my passwords and user names and adresses for the sites so I'm guessing there's some decrypting involved
[04:02] <OldPink> sn0 thanks, :)
[04:02] <sn0> OldPink so your options are use the tarball from mozilla's site , or alternatively use a 3rd party repostiory to install the debs
[04:02] <Arso> anyone...
[04:02] <Torahteen> Hi, I was told that there's a package in the universe repository for Beryl in Feisty Fawn. Finally upgraded from Dapper hehe. What's the name of the Beryl Package?
[04:02] <genii> aricz with older drives it was standard next to power plug. but these days it can be anywhere.Sometimes there is a picture on the sticker on top of the drive to show proper jumper settings. but many times not
[04:02] <Come> hi!
[04:02] <sn0> OldPink if you google search your topic for the ubuntu forums, it gives a possible link on google :)
[04:02] <zzco> Arso: are you blind?
[04:03] <OldPink> sn0, a third party one is what I'm after. Thing is, the tarball is just the installed files, compacted, it's not an actual package you'd compile
[04:03] <aricz> genii: I should put in 'slave' instead? because it was that "wire" which was connected to both my CD-rom and DVD-rom.. there are 2 "outlets" on the same wire.. one MASTER, and one SLAVE
[04:03] <underguiz> can someone  point a gtk theme that goes well with notebook lcd displays?
[04:03] <sn0> OldPink indeed that is how mozilla distribute it, a quick google search showed me http://www.ubuntugeek.com/firefox-30-still-in-alpha-installation-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[04:03] <aricz> genii : ok.. the 3 jumpers are on the left back.. power is at the right
[04:03] <aricz> genii : and in the middle it's that 'many-pinned' wire..
[04:03] <nerdygirl_ellie> Completely hypothetically speaking, if a person were to delete the default application panel, i.e. the Ubuntu equivalent of the start menu, how would she turn it back on?  I know you can redo a package installation with dpkg, but Is that what I'm looking for?
[04:03] <Torahteen> Anyone? Just the name of the Beryl Package in Feistu
[04:04] <genii> aricz: the many-pinned wire is a ribbon :)
[04:04] <aricz> ahhh.. ribbon :) hehe
[04:04] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: one sec.
[04:04] <zzco> crap
[04:04] <zzco> "No usable screens"
[04:04] <AnRkey> Ghost_, here is the manual >> http://www.zyxel.com/web/support_download_detail.php?sqno=1327
[04:04] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie Ok :P
[04:04] <kenro> Beryl was named after Rick Berman. I thing. When they expanded the acronym, they had to choose this strange name.
[04:04] <AnRkey> Ghost_, download that for now
[04:04] <genii> aricz: So drive on end of ribbon. Jumper put next to power plug connector
[04:04] <aricz> genii : ok, easier to explain now.. on that ribbon there are 2 'outlets' .. one SLAVE and one MASTER.. they were connected to CD-ROM and DVD-rom.. now CD-rom is out of the box, MASTER ribbon is connected to the DVD-rom
[04:04] <kbrooks> I don't like customer service nowadays
[04:04] <Arso> zzco sorry, did you reply? i cant find it.
[04:04] <AnRkey> Ghost_, does your ts server have a firewall?
[04:04] <Ghost_> kk ty
[04:04] <Ghost_> no
[04:04] <genii> aricz Good
[04:05] <capitalidea> Beryl is a mineral's name. It's where a ruby comes from.
[04:05] <zzco> Arso: are you blind?
[04:05] <AnRkey> Ghost_, just so that i understand correctly ts as in terminal services?
[04:05] <AnRkey> brb
[04:05] <Arso> zzco no, i am not.
[04:05] <genii> aricz So if it will work in hardware at all, this is proper settings for testing
[04:05] <royel> kbrooks: I actually had a "great" experience with Logitech on monday this week
[04:05] <novato_br> jah estou no linux
[04:05] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: "beryl"  You can do an 'apt-cache search beryl' to see it.  You won't see it unless you have the ...cannot remember.. repository turned on.  IIRC< you need beryl and Emerald
[04:05] <Ghost_> teamspeak
[04:05] <Arso> zzco are you pm'ing me or something? and i cant see it coz i am not registered?
[04:05] <mind_shift> After I log in, a loading window appears, how do I change the theme of that loading window?
[04:05] <kbrooks> royel, oh?
[04:06] <aricz> genii : I get a errormessage at startup.. 'can't find primary drive1' .. not sure what that means.. does it have anything to do with the dvd-rom?
[04:06] <nerdygirl_ellie> novato_br: espanol, francais?
[04:06] <Torahteen> Ok, I'll try that nerdygirl_ellie
[04:06] <capitalidea> Does anyone here use the low-latency kernel from Feisty with Jackd?
[04:06] <zzco> Arso no. I'm simply asking if you're blind
[04:06] <ubuntu-rocks> anyone here running fiesty on a dual core opteron 265 chip (1.8ghz)?
[04:06] <genii> aricz Thats fine, just let it continue
[04:06] <mcsd> if I run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and then shutdown -r 0 does xorg.conf changes take effect or do I need to reinitialize it somehow?
[04:06] <capitalidea> ubuntu-rocks: I'm running ona c2d e6320
[04:06] <novato_br> sorry, nerdygirl_ellie
[04:06] <novato_br> its portuguese
[04:06] <nerdygirl_ellie> dpkg-reconfigure.  That was it.  Thanks!
[04:06] <aricz> genii : yap.. then, this is where I am now :) dvd-rom has power, but, still don't find anything in dmesg about it starting the drivers
[04:06] <Arso> zzco no, i am afraid not. make your point please?
[04:06] <sn0> mcsd after reconfiguring xserver-xorg you only need to restart X
[04:06] <genii> qrt I'm out of immediate ideas then.
[04:06] <zzco> Arso because you seem to be oblivious to the fact that this is a linux channel, and not a windoze one.
[04:07] <royel> kbrooks: well, you mentioned cust service. Yeah, I called about my G7 mouse button being intermittant at times, they asked for a few numbers off the mouse/charger/reciever and then asked for my mailing address, an said they would ship a new one out no charge, no more questions, I was so shocked, I could not believe it
[04:07] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie: I did that, and got a long list, including just plain "beryl"
[04:07] <mcsd> sn0:  how can I do so
[04:07] <sn0> mcsd for example sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (or kdm if you use kubuntu etc)
[04:07] <nerdygirl_ellie> novato_br:  Interesting.  I'll add that to my list of languages to learn hello in.
[04:07] <genii> aricz: Don't worry about dmesg/drivers right now
[04:07] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie: Is that what I'm looking for?
[04:07] <novato_br> nerdygirl_ellie, do u want to learn portuguese?
[04:07] <novato_br> sorry, it's hard
[04:07] <novato_br> heheehe
[04:07] <ubuntu-rocks> i'm looking for hardware to run ubuntu fiesty and want to know whether to go amd or intel
[04:07] <mcsd> sn0: thanks
[04:07] <kbrooks> royel, amazing
[04:07] <ubuntu-rocks> for a server
[04:07] <novato_br> portuguese have hard grammar
[04:07] <sts> hello folks
[04:07] <royel> kbrooks: yeah, unheard of type of service these days.
[04:08] <Arso> zzco u realise that, i am asking you guys, because i want to make Ubuntu my primary OS, and i dont know how much space it needs.
[04:08] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: then you should be able to sudo apt-get install beryl ... or, if you were me, you would go to System -> administration -> Synaptic software something and install it from there.
[04:08] <capitalidea> ubuntu-rocks: Either is fine but I am very please with my C2D set up.
[04:08] <Arso> zzco i just mentioned the windows for added information
[04:08] <royel> kbrooks: oh, and they spoke my langauge to top it off :)
[04:08] <kbrooks> royel,  customer service can suck sometimes. i'l clarify in #ubuntu-offtopic .....
[04:08] <genii> aricz: After machine gets booted, pls pastebin the contents of file: /etc/fstab
[04:08] <Torahteen> Ok, thanks
[04:08] <sts> does anybody know why my cronjob is not running. i inserted a new line into /etc/crontab and even restarted crond.
[04:08] <sts> 0  16   * * *   root    /etc/cron.daily/export-atm-to-brown
[04:08] <sts> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  300 2007-07-19 16:36 export-atm-to-brown
[04:08] <FlyingSquirrel32> What is involved in getting surround sound from my ubuntu machine if I have a card that does it?
[04:08] <AnRkey> Ghost_, no problem i have a TS server here too
[04:08] <ubuntu-rocks> capitalidea - thanks for the input
[04:08] <aricz> !pastebin
[04:08] <zzco> Arso, then you should have included Ubuntu in that list, unless I missed it, due to my present technical difficulties.
[04:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:08] <capitalidea> ubuntu-rocks: I think the most important consideration is how much heat your processor(s) will put off
[04:08] <AnRkey> Ghost_, be right back gotta run quick
[04:09] <genii> sts Make sure the file is set to executable
[04:09] <Ghost_> Daan GTG BRB SOON
[04:09] <sts> genii: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  300 2007-07-19 16:36 export-atm-to-brown
[04:09] <ubuntu-rocks> i'm not that worried as our server room is a/c cooled
[04:09] <nerdygirl_ellie> FlyingSquirrel32: Hi.  I don't have your answer, but I do know the executable should NOT be in /etc/cron.daily
[04:09] <capitalidea> ubuntu-rocks: Try to make sure you get a processor with 64nm technology
[04:09] <Arso> zzco "and installing ubuntu and windows Xp(for gaming)." i am afraid u missed it
[04:09] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie: Should I download emerald too?
[04:09] <capitalidea> ubuntu-rocks: or 65nm whatever it is ... I forget now
[04:09] <genii> sts OK, then no immediately obvious thing comes to mind
[04:10] <FlyingSquirrel32> nerdygirl_ellie: I think you are talking to te wrong person
[04:10] <zzco> ah, my bad
[04:10] <nerdygirl_ellie> sorry about that..
[04:10] <zzco> Arso- I'm trying to get my copy of xorg working again
[04:10] <capitalidea> ubuntu-rocks: also, AMD64 (that covers Intel's 64bit stuff too) support is fairly decent on Ubuntu Feisty Fawn
[04:10] <nerdygirl_ellie> sts: It should NOT be in /etc/crontab
[04:11] <genii> sts Maybe some log would be enlightening in /var/log  cron log I forget the exact name or possibly subdir
[04:11] <Arso> zzco so your busy ? no problem.
[04:11] <nerdygirl_ellie> sts: 4:00 p.m. is what you want?
[04:11] <nerdygirl_ellie> awww.
[04:11] <sts> nerdygirl_ellie: yeah
[04:11] <sts> genii: nothing in /var/log/cron.log
[04:11] <aricz> genii : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30443/plain/
[04:11] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie: Don't mean to bug ya, but should I download emerald?
[04:11] <nerdygirl_ellie> sts: check root's mail.  it should send an email with any output.
[04:11] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: yepyep.
[04:11] <Torahteen> ok
[04:11] <genii> reading, afk
[04:11] <Torahteen> Sorry for asking twice :P
[04:11] <aricz> genii : It's the same as it's always been.. :) /etc/fstab ..
[04:11] <ubuntu-rocks> capitalidea - i don't really have need for a 64 bit stuff but I guess I can use 32bit stuff on a 64bit chip
[04:12] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: there are some good howtos on google, ubuntuforums, and the ubuntu wiki.
[04:12] <sts> nerdygirl_ellie: No mail for root.
[04:12] <Arso> robert_ just please let me know when ur done, i am still downloading Ubuntu anyway.
[04:12] <capitalidea> ubuntu-rocks: yes
[04:12] <genii> aricz: Backup your fstab and in a minute I will give you a modified one to try
[04:12] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: If you have an nvidia card, Compiz works with less "fiddling".  Do you have an accelerated video driver installed?
[04:13] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie: I haven't a clue
[04:13] <Torahteen> I do have an nvidia card
[04:13] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: Yeah!  have you installed beryl yet?
[04:13] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: if not, don't.
[04:13] <Torahteen> No
[04:13] <Torahteen> I hadn't
[04:13] <Torahteen> Is compiz available as a package?
[04:14] <HEP85> ubuntu-rocks: yes, but you will have to install 32 bit apps manually. packages are all 64 bit
[04:14] <nerdygirl_ellie> yes
[04:14] <Torahteen> Or are there any instructions for installing?
[04:14] <pppoe_dude> i have a .dmg file, i tried using a script to change it to .iso, but i think it just gave me a slightly modified version of that image (perhaps a non-compressed version? one that can mount anyway) but, it still mounts as hfs+. any ideas on how i can convert it to iso9660?
[04:14] <AnRkey> Ghost_, you still there?
[04:14] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: yes.  the $5 question is, what kind of nvidia video card do you have?
[04:14] <mc44> Torahteen: are you on feisty?
[04:14] <OldPink> I have a ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x card in my new laptop, which seemed to install fine (good resolution, etc) using a basic feisty install.
[04:14] <OldPink> Trying to get a better driver installed to get direct rendering/desktopeffects working, but all guides seem to be for Hoary/Breezy, and I knowalot has changed since then.
[04:14] <OldPink> Anyone point me in the right direction for what to do in a  Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x?
[04:14] <caravel> hi all
[04:14] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie: I have an FX5200
[04:15] <lauriexxx> hi to all
[04:15] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie: A little old, but I didn't need anything better hehe
[04:15] <robert_> sorry 'bout that
[04:15] <robert_> heh
[04:15] <capitalidea> If anyone could help me a bit with some JACKd issues I am having... I would be much obliged.
[04:15] <lauriexxx> can anybody how to install a french spell check on oppen office?
[04:15] <Torahteen> mc44: Yes, I'm on feisty
[04:15] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: Yeah!  'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic compiz' should do it.  lemme double check those package names.
[04:15] <mc44> Torahteen: you can turn on compiz from System -> prefs -> desktop effects
[04:15] <genii> aricz: To edit the file you need of course admin privelege. So: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab   then replace contents with paste from here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30444/
[04:15] <aricz> genii : yapyap, it's done
[04:16] <caravel> trying to select a tablet pc, and looking for ulv/t cpu comparison charts under linux for calculation, as well as gpu perf intel/nvidia (beryl but no gaming), would anyone have a link to search ? days and days of googling did not help much
[04:16] <mc44> nerdygirl_ellie: compiz is installed by default on feisty
[04:16] <aricz> genii : oh, not the one you've pasted.. :) will do
[04:16] <OldPink> !ati | OldPink
[04:16] <fevel> I installed vegastrike and music from synaptic but the game has no sound, if I open xmms to play mp3 and open the game the game music kicks in overlapping the game music. Does anyone have a solution to this issue??
[04:16] <nerdygirl_ellie> mc44: doesn't he need the nvidia driver from lrm?
[04:16] <genii> aricz: Basically I just commented out the slave drive entry and made the cdrom to auto from noauto
[04:16] <mc44> nerdygirl_ellie: yeah but you can use Restricted Manager to install that :)
[04:17] <Torahteen> I did the commmand nerdygirl_ellie said
[04:17] <Torahteen> 114mb needed
[04:17] <Torahteen> So do I really have it?
[04:17] <aricz> genii : ok, so now I'll just reboot right?
[04:17] <nerdygirl_ellie> mc44: here I go making things difficult.  :)
[04:17] <genii> aricz: After you save the changes, put in some standard type of cd like an old AOL one or so
[04:17] <Torahteen> lol
[04:17] <Arso> Hey guys, how much space is recommended for a fresh Ubuntu installation?
[04:17] <genii> aricz: No reboot needed
[04:17] <Arso> 10 gb enough?
[04:17] <Torahteen> What's this extra 114MB?
[04:17] <mc44> Torahteen: go into System -> prefs -> desktop effects to see if it works
[04:17] <OldPink> ...Arso, 2GB minimum
[04:18] <ari_stress> Arso: enough
[04:18] <mind_shift> how do I change the loading the theme of the loading window that appears after I log in?
[04:18] <Torahteen> mc44: Ok
[04:18] <nerdygirl_ellie> Mod, please IM me.
[04:18] <aricz> genii : yep, standard datacd in
[04:18] <Arso> OldPink great , ty
[04:18] <Arso> OldPink i see, ty
[04:18] <Arso> OldPink woops :P
[04:18] <Torahteen> Uhh...
[04:18] <Torahteen> No title bars! :(
[04:18] <genii> aricz: OK give it a minute to see it and maybe popup a window
[04:18] <Arso> OldPink and theres another small partition for the virtual memory or something right ?
[04:18] <Arso> ari_stress i see, thank you
[04:19] <Torahteen> mc44: I've lost my title bars
[04:19] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: you downloaded 114 mb that fast?!  I'm moving!!
[04:19] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie No
[04:19] <OldPink> Arso, 128MB minimum swap
[04:19] <e> Hey guys, I was trying to just do a simple mount of a server and I keep getting the following error: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:19] <OldPink> Arso, so really 2.12Gb ;)
[04:19] <nerdygirl_ellie> /HELP OP
[04:19] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie I didn't start downloading, was seeing if maybe I had everything
[04:19] <genii> aricz: Was the cd in there before you made the changes or did you just put one in after?
[04:19] <mc44> Torahteen: try running "gtk-window-decorator"
[04:19] <Arso> OldPink but isnt it recommended to be double the ram or something?
[04:19] <e> oops I get the following error missing codepage or other error
[04:19] <e>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[04:19] <e>        dmesg | tail  or so
[04:20] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie: Although, I was getting 1.2MB/s while upgrading to feisty xD
[04:20] <AboSamoor> what's the shortcut for the show desktop button ? so if u play a game in full screen you can switch between windows ?
[04:20] <Arso> OldPink (i used ubuntu for 2 months last year, but forgot pretty much everything)
[04:20] <aricz> genii : I ejected and closed it
[04:20] <OldPink> Arso, no, not at all. The more RAM you have, the less swap you need
[04:20] <e> Anyone have suggestions?
[04:20] <genii> aricz: OK, perfect
[04:20] <aricz> genii : at least it started to brrrrrrmmmmmmm
[04:20] <Arso> OldPink i see, i'll just keep it at 1gb then, just in case (i have 1gb ram)
[04:20] <aricz> genii : if that makes any sense.. hehe
[04:20] <Torahteen> mc44: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
[04:20] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: still stuck?
[04:20] <OldPink> Arso, swap is only used once you run out of RAM. So if you have 128Mb of RAM, you should have around 512MB swap. If you have a gig of Ram, you're only going to need 128MB SWAP
[04:20] <royel> e: what are you trying to mount?
[04:20] <robert_> YAY
[04:20] <robert_> okay
[04:21] <Arso> OldPink ah , isee, 128 mb it is then :) thanks.
[04:21] <vikk2> hi all. ..... how can i have my ubuntu server record all the commands i execute, in a file ??
[04:21] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie: Does what suck?
[04:21] <mc44> Torahteen: hmm, you might try logging out and back in
[04:21] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: Are you stuck without window title bars?
[04:21] <e> royel, I'm trying to mount a server
[04:21] <Torahteen> mc44, Logging out or restarting entirely?
[04:21] <OldPink> Arso, I'm on a 768Mb RAM system usually, and I hardly ever break into swap, and I do alot of multitasking. Youtube, music, Pidgin, Firefox....
[04:21] <genii> aricz: Yup :) Give it maybe 60 seconds to see if you get a popup that shows it sees it. If you get no popup, then go to the dir it is supposed to get mounted to and see if you can list whats on the cd
[04:21] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie: Yes
[04:21] <royel> vikk2: .bash_history already does that to a point
[04:21] <e> royel, more like a server directory
[04:21] <nerdygirl_ellie> Torahteen: run 'gtk-window-decorator --replace'
[04:21] <Torahteen> ok
[04:22] <vikk2>  royel: is that a file  u r talking of ?
[04:22] <aricz> genii : ok, still nothing :\
[04:22] <sinho> oi
[04:22] <mc44> Torahteen: just restarting x should do it
[04:22] <nerdygirl_ellie> That too.. ;)
[04:22] <aricz> genii : checked /cdrom and /media/cdrom cdrom0 and cdrom1
[04:22] <Torahteen> nerdygirl_ellie: How long does that program take?
[04:22] <OldPink> royel, how's the mail server?
[04:22] <sinho> oioioioio
[04:22] <genii> aricz: OK, do: mount /media/cdrom1
[04:22] <Torahteen> brb then
[04:23] <royel> OldPink: gotta fix the webmail portion still, but the server is working again :)
[04:23] <aricz> genii : mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist
[04:23] <royel> e: can you be more specific
[04:23] <s0nix> hi, anyone use PACKET FILTER on ubuntu?
[04:23] <genii> aricz: OK, so not seeing it at hardware level still then :/
[04:24] <Torahteen> mc44, still no title bars :(
[04:24] <aricz> genii : oh.. :| ahhh
[04:24] <royel> OldPink: and the upgrade was of no use either, the Sql problem still exists.. so all I managed to do was break stuff
[04:24] <nerdygirl_ellie> s0nix: I use iptables and firestarter, though infrequently.
[04:24] <aricz> genii : are there any jumpers at the other end of the ribbon ?
[04:24] <Moduliz0r> hi
[04:24] <aricz> genii : or should I try switching jumpers back of the dvd-rom.. since it the same as it's always been
[04:24] <Torahteen> Umm... and now the terminal isn't working :\
[04:24] <Torahteen> just a white box
[04:24] <genii> aricz: No, there is not anything else on the ribbon to set or so on just the little manual jumpers
[04:24] <AboSamoor> what's the shortcut for the show desktop button ? so if u play a game in full screen you can switch between windows ?
[04:25] <Arso> OldPink i see, um, right now, i have windows vista on a 40gb drive, i want to format it, and install ubuntu and XP on that drive, how do you recommend i do that? since i'l have to divide it into a 9gb ext3 linux partition for ubuntu, the 128swap partition, and the remainder, an ntfs windows xp partition. any recommendations?
[04:25] <Moduliz0r> Hi, can someone assist me with setting up Hybserv to work with  ircd-hybrid?
[04:25] <fevel> how do I kill the music daemon??
[04:25] <genii> aricz: The only jumpers which would ever need messing with would be master/slave/CS and we already did that part. So not much more to do for that drive
[04:25] <Arso> OldPink is ext3 still the FS used for linux these days? or is it ext4 or osmething
[04:25] <Budwaa> I have a few apps i need to run in ndows xp and i would like to set it up in a virtual machine. Any recommendations for which VM to use?
[04:25] <royel> Arso: ext3 is being used
[04:25] <royel> Arso: among others
[04:26] <Arso> royel i see. ty :)
[04:26] <genii> aricz: The next thing would be then to repeat this whole process with the other drive (swap them out)
[04:26] <aricz> genii : hehe, I never did that:) changing the jumper on the back of my DVD-rom .. it's still on the left
[04:26] <Torahteen> mc44 and nerdygirl_ellie: I've turned it off for a sec
[04:26] <aricz> genii : sorry, I wasn't paying enough attention, I'll try put that jumper on the rightmost "jumperslot" ..
[04:26] <OldPink> Arso, ext3 is the most common. There's also reiserfs, fat32, ext2...
[04:26] <Moduliz0r> can someone assist me with setting up Hybserv to work with  ircd-hybrid?
[04:26] <Torahteen> Should I just try what nerdygirl_ellie said?
[04:26] <berent> if i burn puppy linux into a cd-r can i remaster it later
[04:26] <darkempress> i just files a bug report for gxine, it's Bug #126984 on the launchpad thingy
[04:26] <genii> aricz: OK then. You will need to power off then do it, then power on again
[04:26] <mc44> Torahteen: you could try asking in #ubuntu-effects for more help, I dunno what it could be
[04:26] <darkempress> *filed
[04:26] <aricz> genii : will do sir.. ! :)
[04:27] <Arso> OldPink i see, so, how do you think i should go about it?
[04:27] <edgy> Hi, when I run nmap -sP as root it shows me more devices than when I run it as a normal user, what's the logic please?
[04:27] <royel> Arso: windows first, linux last :)
[04:27] <darkempress> edgy, normal user does not have access to all the devices aparently
[04:28] <e> royel, I got it working, I was working with samba, but I didn't have necessary packages to understand the fs
[04:28] <Moduliz0r> can someone assist me with setting up Hybserv to work with  ircd-hybrid?
[04:28] <Arso> royel so should i format the whole drive first, then partition 30gb of it as ntfs for windows, then run the ubuntu installation, and format the unpartitioned space as ext3 and the swap?
[04:28] <royel> Arso: 40g is not alot to work with if XP is for gaming, only you can know for sure how much space you'll need for games, just keep that in mind an then while installing XP set the partition on that drive to a size you can live with, for Linux just use the remaining "free" space
[04:28] <OldPink> Arso, insert the LiveCD for Ubuntu, boot it, hit system, then administration, then GNOME Partition Editor and set up your structure.
[04:29] <Ind[y] > I have disabled System Beep from GNOME, but it still beeps in console. How do I disable it from there, as well?
[04:29] <edgy> darkempress: I think you didn't understand my question. I mean by devices the other computers in the network
[04:29] <Absenth> can anyone see what is preventing all users from being able to write to shares in the following /etc/fstab entry
[04:29] <Absenth> //jdrpdc/imaging /media/imaging cifs credentials=/etc/credentials,rw,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,noauto,noperm 0 0
[04:29] <Arso> royel i think its enough, i dont play that many games simultaneously anyway, so i can have at least 4/5 games at a time. good enough for me
[04:29] <genii> AFK 3-4 minutes, work
[04:30] <edgy> Ind[y] : setting -> bell -> none
[04:30] <royel> Arso: the Ubuntu installer will set up partitions automagically, the days of manually setting up partitions an swap space are not needed, although I prefer to manage my partitions myself. The installer does handle it fairly well
[04:30] <Ind[y] > edgy: setting?
[04:30] <Moduliz0r> can someone help me with setting up Hybserv to work with  ircd-hybrid?
[04:30] <darkempress> edgy, if regular user doesn't have permissions to see them, then it wont show them
[04:30] <Ind[y] > edgy: where is that?
[04:30] <Arso> royel i see
[04:30] <edgy> Ind[y] : ah! you mean console not Konsole?
[04:30] <Ind[y] > yes
[04:30] <edgy> Ind[y] : unload the speaker module
[04:30] <Ind[y] > I don't mean some terminal, but the actual console
[04:31] <Ind[y] > edgy: but then, I will have no sound at all. right?
[04:31] <dna_> how can i change the mac address of eth0 permanently?
[04:31] <aricz> Hehe, for some reason X wouldn't start up now .. :)
[04:31] <royel> Arso: as for formatting, the XP installer gives you a option to format and change the drive, so that would be where you would remove any partitions an resize for XP, at least thats how I would do it.
[04:31] <aricz> anyways.. lets check this out
[04:31] <Da1n> t
[04:31] <edgy> Ind[y] : you would have sound from your audio card but not the beep which comes from the built-in pc speaker
[04:31] <Arso> royel OldPink : i am already downloading ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso , should i pause that and get the livecd first? or does itself work as a livecd or what.
[04:31] <Arso> this itself*
[04:31] <edgy> Ind[y] : sudo modprobe -r pcspkr
[04:31] <royel> Arso: it is the livecd
[04:32] <genii> aricz: I need to be on phone a couple minutes but I'm around
[04:32] <Ind[y] > edgy: will I have any consequences from that? I mean, any disadvantages?
[04:32] <Arso> royel ah great.
[04:32] <edgy> Ind[y] : no
[04:32] <magnetron> Arso: the Ubuntu cd is the live cd
[04:32] <Arso> royel omg ,i think iam out of dvds :S
[04:32] <royel> Arso: unless you specifically download the alternate install disc
[04:32] <Ind[y] > edgy: ok. how can I make this permanent?
[04:32] <Arso> magnetron i see, ty
[04:32] <edgy> Ind[y] : just will disable the beeps
[04:32] <OldPink> Arso, that is the liveCD ;)
[04:32] <Arso> royel no , i didnt
[04:32] <royel> Arso: can't help you there :)
[04:32] <Arso> OldPink i see, ty
[04:32] <edgy> Ind[y] : if it works for you put it in modprobe.conf
[04:32] <Ind[y] > edgy: ok. thanks a lot :)
[04:32] <OldPink> Arso, although recent experience with a 256MB laptop and royel's help has led me to love the alternate CD :P
[04:32] <Nutubuntu> I have an onboard nVidia 6150 and have been using nvidia-glx. aptitude never suggested this before, but this morning it tells me that I ought to remove nvidia-glx and install nvidia-glx-legacy instead. Why would it suddenly "decide" this -- and which one should I really be using with my onboard 6150?
[04:33] <Arso> OldPink what is this alternate cd?
[04:33] <aricz> genii : I ejected the dvd-rom.. now it won't close again.. hehe
[04:33] <royel> OldPink: I told you, alternate install ftw ! :)
[04:33] <edgy> Ind[y] : you are welcome
[04:33] <OldPink> Arso, text based installler. For crappy/old/slow systems
[04:33] <Arso> ah
[04:33] <royel> !alternate | Arso
[04:33] <ubotu> Arso: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[04:33] <Ind[y] > edgy: worked. thanks a lot, again. what exactly should I put in modprobe.conf, and where is that file?
[04:33] <genii> aricz: sudo eject -t /dev/hdd
[04:33] <Arso> hmm, my system is fine, i dont think i need that
[04:33] <defrysk> OldPink, also for proper and fast systems ;p
[04:34] <aricz> genii : ok, still can't find the device drivers for it..
[04:34] <Nutubuntu> Also for fast new systems in which you want to control how the installation goes, or run a RAID ... or many other things like that. @ Arso
[04:34] <OldPink> Royel, I like what ubotu said. I used the alternate CD because I'm an expert. Not because my laptop sucks :P
[04:34] <Arso> OldPink haha :P
[04:34] <royel> OldPink: I use it, my systems are not crappy/old/slow ... notice it reads in the description "expert" installs! ;)
[04:34] <aricz> genii : too bad I don't remember what I did months ago, to get one of the CD-rom or DVD-rom working.. I got the help here, from someone, but I just cut'n'paste everything and don't remember what was done .. ugh
[04:34] <Arso> your all experts. i am still a n00b :P
[04:34] <OldPink> defrysk Yeah, I know, I prefer it too now. :P (also applies to royel)
[04:34] <Arso> i need a simple gui instal
[04:34] <genii> aricz: Does ls /dev/hdd  show it there?
[04:34] <aricz> genii : maybe that's what messing this up now
[04:35] <aricz> genii : nope
[04:35] <OldPink> Arso, with 1GB ram, stick to the liveCD
[04:35] <t94xr> OldPink: it also provides a semi-quicker installation because theres less in memory to deal with :)
[04:35] <Arso> OldPink great. :)
[04:35] <genii> aricz: Damn
[04:35] <t94xr> OldPink: well thats what i've noticed.
[04:35] <royel> t94xr: thats absolutely true
[04:35] <Arso> OldPink um, where did u say the partitioning thing was ,after i run the liveCD
[04:35] <edgy> Ind[y] : I have to go now but I guess on /etc/modules  you would find the pcspkr just remove it or find where is it loaded and remove it
[04:36] <Ind[y] > edgy: ok. thanks :)
[04:36] <genii> aricz: OK, well, now to repeat the entire process but with the CD drive only.eg; swap the drives. Power off, swap, CD=master,end of ribbon etc. You know the drill :)
[04:36] <OldPink> t94xr it was deadly slow yesterday. But it was a legacy system ;)
[04:36] <OldPink> Arso, System > Administration > GNOME Partition Editor. Write it down or stick it in tomboy
[04:36] <Arso> Will the internet work right away (dsl) once i am in ubuntu? or will i need to apply any settings?
[04:36] <t94xr> OldPink: i always use the alternate cd, cbf yay im in live enviroment sif big deal
[04:37] <OldPink> Arso, cable install, and most wifi chipsets will work instantly, some will need configuration
[04:37] <royel> Arso: You will see a "install" icon on the LiveCD system, just click it to start the install wizard
[04:37] <aricz> genii : yap :) will do
[04:37] <t94xr> i prefer actually installing the operating system, not running the operating system to install it.
[04:37] <genii> aricz: OK I'll be around
[04:37] <OldPink> royel, arso wants to partition first :)
[04:37] <Arso> yes. i do
[04:37] <Arso> or do i
[04:37] <Arso> lol
[04:37] <Arso> same thing right/
[04:37] <OldPink> royel, Matt wins. See above
[04:37] <Arso> i can just run the installer, and let it do the partitioning
[04:38] <royel> Arso: OldPink: meh, XP can do that first, an since you really need to install windows first
[04:38] <OldPink> royel, why install windows first?
[04:38] <Arso> oh yes, i forgot about xp
[04:38] <Arso> 1h 12m left for my download, wee :D
[04:38] <Arso> i miss ubuntu,
[04:38] <Absenth> can anyone see what is preventing all users from being able to write to shares in the following /etc/fstab entry
[04:38] <Absenth> //jdrpdc/imaging /media/imaging cifs credentials=/etc/credentials,rw,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,noauto,noperm 0 0
[04:38] <royel> Arso: OldPink: grub tends to get removed if you install XP over linux
[04:38] <Arso> ah
[04:38] <Arso> ok, i'll install xp first then
[04:39] <royel> !grub | Arso
[04:39] <ubotu> Arso: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:39] <OldPink> Absenth go into terminal. Type:
[04:39] <OldPink> gksudo chmod 777 /etc/fstab -r
[04:39] <Arso> so is it a common issue?
[04:39] <Arso> losing grub. that is
[04:39] <royel> Arso: yes
[04:39] <Arso> i see.
[04:39] <Arso> i'll stick to your order then :)
[04:39] <nerdygirl_ellie> OldPink: why are you asking him to make the fstab writeable?!
[04:39] <Absenth> OldPink: why am I making the /etc/fstab read/write by all?
[04:40] <OldPink> Royel, Ah. Once I'd removed XP for Ubuntu, I never reinstalled
[04:40] <royel> Arso: it's easily remedied, but the best method is win>linux not linux>win :)
[04:40] <taxman> I've installed all the gstreamer plugins, but Rhythmbox still can't play unencrypted m4a files. Ideas?
[04:40] <Arso> so once i have xp, should i partition for ubuntu through the installer, or through OldPink's " System > Administration > GNOME Partition Editor." method
[04:40] <Nutubuntu> Arso,  "issue" suggests a sometimes thing. Windows *always* overwrites :) install Win first if you want to dual boot
[04:40] <genii> nerdygirl_ellie: My first thought
[04:40] <Ind[y] > How do I disable a kernel module from beeing loaded at each boot?
[04:40] <nerdygirl_ellie> Absenth: can you read/write it from a winders machine?
[04:40] <royel> OldPink: good for you! :)
[04:40] <Arso> Nutubuntu i see. will do :)
[04:40] <Absenth> nerdygirl_ellie: the share is a samba share on a domain controler
[04:40] <OldPink> absenth, nerdygirl_ellie: HE said "can anyone see what is preventing all users from being able to write to shares in the following /etc/fstab entry" - I assumed that's what he wanted, sorry
[04:40] <royel> OldPink: sadly I may never be rid of win, I have a terrible gaming addiction to feed daily
[04:41] <Absenth> nerdygirl_ellie: the user account specified in the credentials file has full read/write/modify access
[04:41] <Arso> royel a fellow gamer :)
[04:41] <taxman> Ind[y] : I can't recall but man insmod should lead you in the right direction
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Arso: If you leave unallocated drive space the installer does it for you.. It is a bit easier than setting it up yourself
[04:41] <OldPink> royel, cold turkey it out of there :P
[04:41] <Arso> royel what do you currently play?
[04:41] <Ind[y] > taxman: ok, thanks
[04:41] <royel> OldPink: lol, No!!!
[04:41] <berent> i am getting a message Do you want to create a disc from the contents of the image or with the image file inside?
[04:41] <Arso> OldPink gaming is healthy!
[04:41] <aricz> hmhmmhmh
[04:41] <OldPink> Arso, Royel, All: brb. Walking dogs. Gaming isn't healthy. It's an ugly, time wasting habit ;)
[04:41] <berent> i am getting a message Do you want to create a disc from the contents of the image or with the image file inside? when i try burning puppylinux iso image into cd-r which should i select
[04:42] <stuart_> hm. i can't seem to find or mount my 2nd NTFS HD, it's missing..
[04:42] <Arso> OldPink see you later :).
[04:42] <royel> Arso: not much atm, waiting on a few games, Warhammer, Darkfall (should move this type of conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic) :)
[04:42] <aricz> genii : it found the dvd-rom! I just remembered you told me to go into the bios and put everything on AUTO.. hihi, soooorry, I forgot again.. but still no mount though
[04:42] <taxman> stuart_: does it show up in dmesg |less ?
[04:42] <Arso> royel i see.
[04:42] <aricz> genii : but dmesg shows it finds it
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: IN ubuntu it is easy to just right click the iso and select write to disk
[04:42] <Moduliz0r> can someone assist me with setting up Hybserv to work with  ircd-hybrid?
[04:42] <Arso> royel i tried graw2 last week. nice :D
[04:42] <genii> aricz: YAY
[04:42] <Arso> royel back to Ubuntu.
[04:43] <berent> in ubuntu only i am getting this message
[04:43] <Arso> royel is it easy to change my proxy to another countries in ubuntu?
[04:43] <royel> Arso: also afk, for a smoke
[04:43] <berent> in ubuntu only i am getting this message Jack_Sparrow
[04:43] <royel> Arso: where you from?
[04:43] <Absenth> nerdygirl_ellie: for what it's worth I'm using the cifs rather than the smbfs type since Server 2k3 encrypts all traffic to/from shares.  the smbfs type doesn't support this, and disabling the security domain wide didn't sound like a good idea to me :)
[04:43] <Arso> royel ur full of vices arent u :P
[04:43] <Arso> royel U.A.E
[04:43] <Arso> royel i live there, unfortunately :P
[04:43] <Moduliz0r> can someone assist me with setting up Hybserv to work with  ircd-hybrid?
[04:43] <royel> Arso: hmm, not sure about the proxy stuff
[04:43] <genii> aricz: Are you tring some standard iso9660 cd in it?
[04:43] <royel> Arso: dont need that in the states
[04:43] <Arso> royel coz, u mightve heard, skype and all voip are banned here
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: What version of ubuntu are you using..
[04:44] <Arso> but i worked around that with windows,
[04:44] <genii> eg: old AOL cd or anything similar
[04:44] <nerdygirl_ellie> Absenth: I wasn't going to ask. ;)  Sorry I can't help more, but I saw the chmod/fstab thing and had to pipe up.
[04:44] <frogzoo> Arso: where's "here" ?
[04:44] <berent> feisty :Jack_Sparrow
[04:44] <Arso> frogzoo United Arab Emirates
[04:44] <genii> nerdygirl_ellie: Yes good call there  by the way
[04:44] <aricz> genii : not sure, but, I should perhaps switch 'hdd' to 'hdc' in fstab
[04:44] <royel> Arso: I would think there is a method for doing the same in linux, I'm not familiar with it though, I'm sure a google search could produce results
[04:44] <berent> Do you want to create a disc from the contents of the image or with the image file inside? Jack_Sparrow .
[04:44] <royel> Arso: anyhow, brb in a few minutes
[04:44] <ezeki3l> http://lantis.iqaeda.info/msgs/rebeca.jpg <- nice, beautiful girl
[04:44] <genii> aricz: Not yet
[04:44] <Arso> royel great, i'll see you then.
[04:44] <frogzoo> Arso: banned for religious reasons?
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: Do you get an option when you right click the ISO to Write to Disk?
[04:45] <genii> aricz: First do: ls /dev/hdd   and see if that exists
[04:45] <Arso> frogzoo no, banned coz the isp are monopolizing mofos
[04:45] <aricz> genii : nothing
[04:45] <berent> yes. Jack_Sparrow .
[04:45] <berent> after that i get this. Jack_Sparrow .
[04:45] <leo|term> exit
[04:45] <aricz> genii : but there's /dev/hdc now
[04:45] <genii> aricz: OK, so then now: ls /dev/hdc and see if that exists
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: When you click that you get the other message?
[04:45] <Arso> frogzoo until last year, there was a single isp in the whole country, so they didnt want ppl to use cheap voip, so they banned it.
[04:45] <genii> Aricz Heh, yer getting the hang of it now
[04:45] <berent> yes. Jack_Sparrow .
[04:46] <stuart_> taxman, i did dmesg |less and a bunch of stuff came up, but doesn't have anything to do with HD's I think
[04:46] <Arso> frogzoo the new isp is just an illusion. the old one owns more than half of it.
[04:46] <Ind[y] > Come on now, guys. Nobody knows how can I disable a module?
[04:46] <Ind[y] > insmod does not do the trick
[04:46] <berent> what should i select- a file or an image? Jack_Sparrow .
[04:46] <capitalidea> If anyone could help me a bit with some JACKd issues I am having... I would be much obliged.
[04:46] <genii> aricz: OK, so do the gksu gedit of fstab then just change hdd for now to hdc
[04:46] <Nutubuntu> I have an onboard nVidia 6150 and have been using nvidia-glx. aptitude never suggested this before, but this morning it tells me that I ought to remove nvidia-glx and install nvidia-glx-legacy instead. Why would it suddenly "decide" this -- and which one should I really be using with my onboard 6150?
[04:46] <nerdygirl_ellie> Ind[y] : disable a module.. create an entry for it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklisted I think.  one sec.
[04:46] <genii> aricz: Then eject/reinsert tray with a cd
[04:47] <Arso> frogzoo okay then :S
[04:47] <aricz> genii : Error writing fstab: Read-only file system
[04:47] <ezeki3l> http://lantis.iqaeda.info/msgs/rebeca.jpg <-- my output log on a binary telemetry frame editor
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: I have never seen that prompt and it isnt clear but I would assume that you want to make a disk with the content of the image
[04:47] <Arso> hahahahahahah
[04:47] <aricz> genii : as I said, I got some weird errors at startup this time.. X didn't start.. hehe
[04:47] <Ind[y] > nerdygirl_ellie: ok, I am waiting :)
[04:47] <stuart_> fdisk -l shows that I have a /dev/hdb but I can't mount it, or see my data in there
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: At the worst, you waste a cd..
[04:47] <Arso> ezeki3l lol/
[04:47] <aricz> genii : not sure if that has anything to do with the fact I can't 'sudo pico fstab' at the moment
[04:47] <genii> aricz Did you get some error about fsck and / or root filesystem being unclean at boot?
[04:48] <Arso> um guys, how are nvidia drivers on linux? i have a 7950gt
[04:48] <elkbuntu> mc44, wot?
[04:48] <mc44> elkbuntu: ezeki3l = potter spam
[04:48] <berent> i selected to write image and clicked write and it says there was a write error. what does this mean Jack_Sparrow .
[04:48] <genii> aricz You booted to hard drive and not to CD, yes?
[04:48] <aricz> genii : I didn't see, the boot goes pretty fast.. and I don't know what to grep from dmesg either :)
[04:48] <taxman> stuart_: what does fdisk -l say the partitions are on hdb
[04:48] <aricz> genii : oh yes, it's hard drive
[04:48] <frogzoo> Arso: gksudo pico fstab - or sudo vi fstab
[04:48] <elkbuntu> mc44, hhee
[04:48] <nerdygirl_ellie> Ind[y] : gksu gedit  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add a line like blacklist yourmodulenamehere
[04:48] <nerdygirl_ellie> Ind[y] : then reboot.*
[04:48] <Ind[y] > nerdygirl_ellie: ok, thanks a lot :)
[04:49] <Cyber_Stalker> !nvidia | Arso
[04:49] <ubotu> Arso: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:49] <Arso> frogzoo i am not on linux yet, still download ubuntu, what are those?
[04:49] <nerdygirl_ellie> Ind[y] : yes, there are ways not to reboot, no I don't know them
[04:49] <mc44> elkbuntu: not funny :( :p
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: Something is wrong with that whole setup, the question it asks and now an error.. HAve you installed anything into Ubuntu with a script like Automatix or Envy.. both are bad ideas
[04:49] <elkbuntu> mc44, i was referring to the speed he left when you said that
[04:49] <mc44> elkbuntu: hehe :)
[04:49] <elkbuntu> mc44, see, is funny ;)
[04:49] <nerdygirl_ellie> that was funny elk.  Know somebody?
[04:49] <stuart_> taxman, Disk /dev/hdb: 10.2 GB, 10242892800 bytes
[04:49] <elkbuntu> nerdygirl_ellie, huh?
[04:50] <berent> no. Jack_Sparrow .
[04:50] <genii> aricz Bleh I currently gone blank, trying to rememner remount into rw method
[04:50] <askand> I dont have anything in the rightclick menu "create document" on the desktop..why?
[04:50] <taxman> stuart_: that's it? no partion lines after that?
[04:50] <nerdygirl_ellie> elkbuntu: Congratulations on what has to be the shortest IRC moderation ever.
[04:50] <Arso> does ubuntu need a cd or a dvd?
[04:50] <Arso> :
[04:50] <Arso> :P
[04:50] <aricz> genii : hehe, that's allright, going through dmesg now
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: Your system is not behaving like a standard install .  HAs differnt options and now errors so I will be of no help.
[04:51] <nerdygirl_ellie> Arso: No, they have some of there own, but thanks for offering.
[04:51] <stuart_> taxman, not sure if i can paste other junk here, but:
[04:51] <frogzoo> Arso: soz nvm, mt
[04:51] <aricz> genii : [17179592.624000]  EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "erro" or missing value .. not sure if I've seen that one before
[04:51] <stuart_> /dev/hdb1               1        1244     9992398+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:51] <elkbuntu> nerdygirl_ellie, thanks
[04:51] <berent> it asks write disk to : dvd rw / file image which one to select?. Jack_Sparrow .
[04:51] <frogzoo> aricz: gksudo pico fstab - or sudo vi fstab
[04:51] <ianRG> greets gents
[04:51] <HEP85> !anything
[04:51] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[04:51] <taxman> stuart_: ok that looks good, so what happens when you try to mount it?
[04:51] <aricz> frogzoo : didn't work.. not sure if vi would make any difference though, but that editor.. t00 l33t for me.. :)
[04:51] <Arso> frogzoo k.
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: It wants to write a 70 meg file to a DVD?  Where did you get that image from
[04:52] <stuart_> taxman, mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:52] <ianRG> if a tutorial tells me to compile a "*.c" file with gcc
[04:52] <genii> aricz Ah. I am thinking now the cut/paste into fstab got cropped over lines. eg: what should have been only a single lineis now over 2 lines (not good)
[04:52] <Arso> nerdygirl_ellie hahahah. i actually laughed, thank you
[04:52] <aricz> genii : just get a message 'device is busy'
[04:52] <nerdygirl_ellie> !compile | ianRG
[04:52] <ianRG> what do i use instead of gcc?
[04:52] <ubotu> ianRG: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:52] <aricz> genii : ahhhhh.. hoho :)
[04:52] <frogzoo> aricz: does 'groups' show you belong to 'admin'?
[04:52] <aricz> genii : but, I can't edit fstab now.. hehe
[04:52] <berent> no. it asks to write disc to DVD-RW drive!!!! / file image . quite weird .Jack_Sparrow .
[04:52] <aricz> frogzoo : yap
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: What all have you installed or added to your system and HOW did you add or install them
[04:53] <genii> aricz Actually you should be able to, by remounting / with read write
[04:53] <berent> i have never installed nero drivers for this dvd drive . should i?. Jack_Sparrow .
[04:53] <Arso> ubuntu comes with an irc client, right?
[04:53] <frogzoo> Arso: gksudo xclock ?
[04:53] <nerdygirl_ellie> Arso: really though, you can install from CD or DVD.  It depends on how much time you want to spend downloading.
[04:53] <aricz> genii : how do I do that?
[04:53] <genii> aricz Just trying to remember safe way to do this :/
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: NO
[04:54] <frogzoo> Arso: soz again :p
[04:54] <nerdygirl_ellie> Arso: irc client, yes, gaim.
[04:54] <Arso> frogzoo i swear i am not on linux yet :S i am on windwos.
[04:54] <frogzoo> aricz: gksudo xclock ?
[04:54] <genii> 1 minute, looking it up
[04:54] <aricz> genii : hehe.. :)
[04:54] <berent> ok. Jack_Sparrow .
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: You are using Nero?
[04:54] <aricz> frogzoo : cannot open display
[04:54] <Arso> nerdygirl_ellie gaim , didnt it become pidgin or something :P
[04:54] <frogzoo> aricz: you on beryl?
[04:54] <aricz> frogzoo : I'm not in X.. it won't start.. console here
[04:55] <royel> Arso: yes, I think so
[04:55] <nerdygirl_ellie> Arso: The time spent downloadint Ubuntu on DVD seems wasted to me, because you are just going to redownload most of the files again when you update.
[04:55] <aricz> frogzoo : and yup, beryl is installed
[04:55] <frogzoo> aricz: well if you're not in console, nano won't work
[04:55] <berent> the nero cd i have states it is vista ready. Jack_Sparrow
[04:55] <HEP85> Arso: on feisty it is still gaim, pidgin will be in gutsy
[04:55] <frogzoo> aricz: well if you're not in X, nano won't work
[04:55] <stuart_> so what do I do when I get "mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" when I try to mount my other HD?
[04:55] <Arso> nerdygirl_ellie i am already almost done with the CD
[04:55] <Arso> nerdygirl_ellie i'll download the stuff manually when i update i guess.
[04:55] <berent> since i already have drivers here i dont think they are needed. Jack_Sparrow
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: You said you were in Ubuntu NOT in Vista..
[04:55] <aricz> frogzoo : problem is the / is in read-only mode
[04:55] <Arso> nerdygirl_ellie does it auto update?
[04:55] <nerdygirl_ellie> frogzoo: ?  nano works at a command line.
[04:55] <royel> frogzoo: why not, I dont have X on my server an I use nano all the time
[04:56] <Arso> nerdygirl_ellie does ubuntu read/write on ntfs?
[04:56] <nerdygirl_ellie> Arso: yes.  It's automatic!
[04:56] <frogzoo> nerdygirl_ellie: oh thx, didn't know
[04:56] <nerdygirl_ellie> Arso: Yes.
[04:56] <Arso> nerdygirl_ellie phew!
[04:56] <nerdygirl_ellie> frogzoo: gedit is gui only.
[04:56] <berent> yes of course but the driver cd which i got from vendor along with dvd writer has vista ready on it is what i said. Jack_Sparrow .
[04:56] <Arso> nerdygirl_ellie but can i make the primary partition ntfs too, instead of ext3?
[04:56] <Arso> brb/
[04:56] <nerdygirl_ellie> Arso: No.
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: Ok.. No you wont need that...
[04:57] <frogzoo> aricz: well why is / ro? did / fsck ?
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: What all have you installed or added to your system and HOW did you add or install them
[04:57] <aricz> frogzoo : the fstab got.. um, a bit cluttered.. it cut some lines where it shouldn't
[04:57] <berent> feisty. Jack_Sparrow .
[04:57] <aricz> frogzoo : when I pasted something .. :)
[04:57] <nerdygirl_ellie> Arso: that's a no with an *, the * is for you might be able to if you were an uberpenguin, but then you wouldn't want to.
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: There is something you are not telling me... Soething changed your setup
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> something
[04:58] <nerdygirl_ellie> Jack_Sparrow: ('history') is your friend.
[04:58] <berent> i changed vga configuration to nvidia drivers. Jack_Sparrow .
[04:58] <frogzoo> aricz: ls -l /etc/fstab~
[04:58] <berent> that's all since i got this rw drive Jack_Sparrow .
[04:58] <genii> aricz: OK, I think you should at this point just run the filesystem check and let fsck clean and make it readable/writeable for next boot other than trying the unmount/remount rw method.
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: Not just since you got the new drive
[04:59] <genii> aricz: It will just be safer
[04:59] <GMWeezel> when can i get visualizations other than goom?
[04:59] <berent> then from when do you want the history? Jack_Sparrow .
[04:59] <GMWeezel> *where
[04:59] <aricz> genii : I just do a 'fsck' ?
[04:59] <berent> !iso
[04:59] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:00] <berent> i also tried mounting using above command from !iso. Jack_Sparrow .
[05:00] <frogzoo> genii: from the sound of things, aricz /etc/fstab is badly messed up
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: You have installed something that changed your system... You are the only one that would know what it might be.  You said you never used automatix or envy scripts...
[05:00] <aricz> frogzoo : it's not badly messed up.. there's 1 line there (line 10 to be exact) that should be pasted to line 9 to finish of line 9 perfectly.. :)
[05:00] <zepolen> help! ubuntu works perfectly for me, i dont have any problems...this is not what linux should be like
[05:00] <nerdygirl_ellie> It is my opinion that the "your drive has errors, check forced" screen needs to be made more intuitive for non-tech users.  I had to go to my moms to do an fsck -a.  It needs a "Click here to fix it" button or "Do you want me to fix everything?" prompt.
[05:00] <berent> when did i say that? Jack_Sparrow .
[05:01] <aricz> frogzoo : but, I can't edit it now.. as / is r-only
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: Have you used either of those
[05:01] <genii> aricz: Actually the better (proper way) would be to do: reboot    then hit ESC when grub begins. then choose safe kernel  to boot. After that comes up you can safely run fsck without any arguments. After it cleans the drive, do again: reboot then ESC and choose the one it was using normally
[05:01] <royel> zepolen: want me to fix it for you :) <grins>
[05:01] <nerdygirl_ellie> zepolen: install binary video card drivers.
[05:01] <royel> nerdygirl_ellie: lol
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: I ased specifically and you said No..
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> asked
[05:01] <zepolen> royel: no thanks i dont want automatix
[05:01] <nerdygirl_ellie> zepolen: or the samsung drivers I read about on /. this morning.
[05:01] <aricz> genii : ok, fsck won't run now.. tells me there's an error in /etc/fstab
[05:01] <berent> no Jack_Sparrow : i don't find them in synaptic as green(installed) either.
[05:02] <genii> frogzoo: I'm pretty sure when it was copied from pastebin into the file there were line breaks in the middle of some entries
[05:02] <frogzoo> aricz: fsck / - 'fsck /dev/###' - then  mount it so you can edit it 'mount /dev/### /mnt'
[05:02] <nerdygirl_ellie> zepolen: or for some real fun, see what all those SELinux commands do. :)
[05:02] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: I didnt ask if they were installed I asked if you EVER used EITHER of them
[05:02] <HEP85> what happens if I remove the currently running kernel?
[05:02] <zepolen> like you could consider driver issues a problem - i even got my integrated sd card reader working
[05:02] <zepolen> which was nice considering it didnt work under windows :p
[05:02] <aricz> genii : it could be like that.. I cut it from lynx.. and pasted it without checking for the linebreaks.. hehe
[05:02] <_imran_> can i move my workspace switcher to the top taskbar, if so, how do i do that?
[05:02] <Moduliz0r> how do I add something to the startup in Ubuntu server?
[05:02] <royel> HEP85: remove it?
[05:02] <ikonia> Moduliz0r what version
[05:02] <berent> No. Jack_Sparrow .
[05:02] <genii> aricz:  When I told you earlier to backup your fstab file, did you do that?
[05:02] <Moduliz0r> 7.04
[05:02] <nerdygirl_ellie> HEP85: Are you upgrading?
[05:03] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: Sorry, See if someone else can help you..
[05:03] <aricz> genii : yap, it's in /etc/backup
[05:03] <dsg> omg i was using a barber on my head at 21mm earlier today when it went out of battery, so i was to continue now but it was set to 2mm, which i didnt notice before i started using it ;( and im going to netherland on holiday tomorow
[05:03] <ikonia> !upstart >Moduliz0r
[05:03] <lousygarua> hello, how can i make a copy of a small site? any quick spider apps or smt similar?
[05:03] <HEP85> nerdygirl_ellie: No. It is just a hypothetical question. I just wanted to know if you can do that and if it breaks your system
[05:03] <zepolen> lousygarua: httrack
[05:03] <aricz> genii : but there's no problem, I'll just have to do a easy BACKSPACE on the first char at line10 to get it up to line9.. that's all there is
[05:03] <ikonia> dsg is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[05:03] <nerdygirl_ellie> dsg: Fuzzy? :)
[05:03] <ikonia>  wget
[05:03] <CaptLloyd> dsg: haha, ok, funny
[05:03] <aricz> genii : problem is I can't edit and save :)
[05:03] <lousygarua> zepolen: thx will check it out
[05:03] <IntuitiveNipple> dsg: file it as a bug :)
[05:03] <CaptLloyd> dsg: something similar happened to me
[05:03] <genii> aricz fine. Then since hardware now sees DVD, put in the livecd, boot to that and then mount the drive there, copy the backup over the defective one
[05:04] <_imran_> can i move my workspace switcher to the top taskbar, if so, how do i do that?
[05:04] <zuzuzzzip> hi everybody :)
[05:04] <royel> HEP85: you can do it, your system won't boot again, unless you have an alternate kernel to use :)
[05:04] <ikonia> _imran_ right click on it and look at the move option
[05:04] <aricz> genii : don't have the livecd..
[05:04] <nerdygirl_ellie> HEP85: You can't do it with apt or dpkg, without forcing it.  It you do force it, you will break your system and have to fix it from the CD or something similar.
[05:04] <_imran_> ikonia, seems simple enough
[05:04] <ikonia> _imran_ good
[05:04] <aricz> genii : but can't I just .. uhm, esc at grub, safe-mode.. and edit from there?
[05:04] <HEP85> royel: but will the system crash at once or only after reboot?
[05:04] <aricz> genii : or is there nothing I can do to make / rw again?
[05:05] <nerdygirl_ellie> HEP85: Root has permission to do almost anything.  It doesn't mean she should.
[05:05] <_imran_> ikonia, the move option cannot be selected
[05:05] <zuzuzzzip> i have a problem with my sound, both left and right of my Analog Front only come through left channel
[05:05] <nerdygirl_ellie> HEP85: it will run fine until a reboot.
[05:05] <shooters> Hi, I'm trying to convert a .flv video to .mpg using mencoder, but I always get a Buffer Overflow error, is there a way I can dump the video to a file and then encode it?
[05:05] <ikonia> _imran_ try just dragging it
[05:05] <genii> arcade: Yeah you can do the grub/safe
[05:05] <zuzuzzzip> so its like stereo on one speaker > mono
[05:05] <berent> Is there any command running on terminal to burn image . Jack_Sparrow
[05:05] <_imran_> ikonia, doesnt work
[05:05] <age6racer> hi all, does anyone know if there is a command to put a laptop on standby from the command line? I basically want to map a button on my keyboard to the standby button
[05:05] <ikonia> berent cdrecord
[05:05] <kurumin> hi
[05:05] <royel> HEP85: it loads the kernel in memory, so only after a reboot
[05:05] <nerdygirl_ellie> shooters: movie from youtube?
[05:05] <ikonia> _imran_ surprising
[05:05] <shooters> nerdygirl_ellie: ya
[05:05] <aricz> genii : okioki, will do.. tatua, and still, thanks for the great help I get here :)
[05:06] <IntuitiveNipple> age6racer: "sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh force"
[05:06] <zepolen> shooters: why do you want to convert an flv
[05:06] <berent> ikonia : thnks.
[05:06] <HEP85> nerdygirl_ellie, royel: Thanks for the info
[05:06] <zepolen> mplayer plays them just fine
[05:06] <_imran_> ikonia, i managed to find a way, thanks anyway
[05:06] <nerdygirl_ellie> shooters: I use the videodownloader plugin for mozilla, and I can usually save them in mp4.
[05:06] <robert_> mplayer crashes for me
[05:06] <royel> HEP85: <ponders HEP85's intentions> :)
[05:06] <ikonia> _imran_ well done
[05:06] <genii> work, AFK
[05:06] <shooters> zepolen: I can't play them in VLC, and can't move them forward in mplayer...
[05:06] <zuzuzzzip> robert_: try vlc
[05:07] <zepolen> vlc is gay though
[05:07] <_imran_> ikonia, do you know how to put the programs i am running onto the top taskbar like kde?
[05:07] <shooters> nerdygirl_ellie: you get it using synaptic?
[05:07] <zuzuzzzip> yeah but it works
[05:07] <zepolen> i saw him making out with gxine
[05:07] <nerdygirl_ellie> shooters: no, it's a mozilla plugin
[05:07] <ikonia> _imran_ you need to swap the top and bottom task bars around, just drag them
[05:07] <robert_> the only reason I like mplayer is it's cross-platform
[05:07] <Linuturk> I run a ubuntu server. when I go to sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade, kernel packages usually say "automatically held back"     how do I get these new kernels to install on my server?
[05:07] <HEP85> royel: just told a friend how to update the kernel and I said he can remove the old one after the update. but I forgot to say only after rebooting with the new
[05:08] <zuzuzzzip> even totem plays flv
[05:08] <ikonia> Linuturk check the logs to see why they are held back
[05:08] <HEP85> royel: so I wanted to know if he could have broken his system
[05:08] <mribas> merica
[05:08] <_imran_> ikonia, i don't mean like that, i only want to have 1 taskbar, but i don't know if that's possible (kde has 1 taskbar)
[05:08] <ikonia> _imran_ you can delete one task bar
[05:08] <Linuturk> ikonia, where are those logs?
[05:08] <capitalidea> Great. I get NO sound out of Audacity and Ardour is unable to import MP3s... Linux has failed me for audio editing.
[05:08] <royel> HEP85: I see.. theres no real reason to remove the old one, unless space is an issue
[05:08] <ikonia> Linuturk /var/log
[05:08] <Linuturk> ikonia, right, but what specific one?
[05:10] <HEP85> royel: Well. I'm kind of a pedant
[05:10] <taxman> stuart_: sorry had a phone call, did your problem get solved?
[05:10] <royel> HEP85: lol
[05:10] <aricz> genii : in safemode now, still r-only
[05:10] <robert_> now I'm stuck using the stupid framebuffer
[05:10] <ikonia> Linuturk and you're running a server ?
[05:10] <zuzuzzzip> does anyone know alot about ubuntu's sound?
[05:10] <ikonia> zuzuzzzip just ask the question
[05:10] <Nutubuntu> I have an onboard nVidia 6150 and have been using nvidia-glx. aptitude never suggested this before, but this morning it tells me that I ought to remove nvidia-glx and install nvidia-glx-legacy instead. Why would it suddenly "decide" this -- and which one should I really be using with my onboard 6150?
[05:10] <zuzuzzzip> i already did
[05:10] <zuzuzzzip> i have a problem with my sound, both left and right of my Analog Front only come through left channel
[05:10] <ikonia> zuzuzzzip I didn't see it
[05:10] <_imran_> ikonia, yes, i know, but the how do i know what programs i'm running unless i can put it on the top taskbar
[05:10] <zuzuzzzip> and it used to works
[05:10] <Linuturk> ikonia, lol, yeah. aptitude log has [?????????]  next to linux-image-server package
[05:11] <Linuturk> ikonia, gotta learn somewhere, right?
[05:11] <Moduliz0r> how do I start a program as another user in upstart?
[05:11] <zuzuzzzip> just one day it stopped
[05:11] <CaptLloyd> quitters
[05:11] <Linuturk> which is the package that was held back ikonia
[05:11] <zepolen> help i have a problem with windows vista
[05:11] <HEP85> _imran_: rightclick the panel and add the window list applet
[05:12] <ikonia> zepolen this is ubuntu support
[05:12] <Linuturk> zepolen, format c:\
[05:12] <zuzuzzzip> zepolen: lol
[05:12] <Linuturk> ;p
[05:12] <zepolen> what!
[05:12] <ikonia> Linuturk it doesn't give any reason why it was held back
[05:12] <ikonia> Linuturk try using apt to update
[05:12] <_imran_> HEP85, thaks
[05:12] <_imran_> *thanks
[05:12] <nerdygirl_ellie> zepolen: A lot of people have problems with Vista.  It's expensive, insecure, and morally dirty among other things.
[05:12] <HEP85> _imran_: you're welcome
[05:12] <bullgard4> How to use the program Tracker via Nautilus? I do not understand the section 'Tracker And Nautilus Search' in /usr/share/doc/tracker-search-tool/README.gz.
[05:13] <zepolen> but its windows, windows iz betta
[05:13] <nerdygirl_ellie> zepolen: ... and that's just my problems with it. :)
[05:13] <genii> Back
[05:13] <ikonia> zepolen please don't dicuss windows in ubuntu support
[05:13] <genii> aricz: Here?
[05:13] <sunken> zepolen: and it has limits to TCP connections
[05:13] <Moduliz0r> How do I start a program under another user  in upstart?
[05:13] <aricz> genii : yapyap
[05:13] <ikonia> zepolen ##windows is a good channel for discussion on windows
[05:13] <aricz> genii : :)
[05:13] <ikonia> !upstart >Moduliz0r
[05:13] <zepolen> ikonia: i get kicked out of there :p
[05:13] <Linuturk> ikonia, The following packages have been held back: linux-image-server
[05:13] <Moduliz0r> i know what upstart is!
[05:13] <Moduliz0r> and Im no the website!
[05:13] <ikonia> zepolen thats no reason to bring it in here
[05:13] <Moduliz0r> on*
[05:13] <zepolen> i see
[05:13] <genii> aricz: Did you do reboot/grub/safe ?
[05:13] <Linuturk> ikonia, this isn't a development server either, I believe it is edgy or feisty server (most likely edgy)
[05:14] <Moduliz0r> but it doesnt tell me how to run under another user
[05:14] <HEP85> zepolen: what's your problem?
[05:14] <nerdygirl_ellie> ikonia: I think he's making a joke. :)
[05:14] <aricz> genii : yup, I'm in safemode now.. but / was still r-only
[05:14] <ikonia> Linuturk what do you mean - you believe
[05:14] <ikonia> Linuturk: you get the same error using apt-get ?
[05:14] <nerdygirl_ellie> HEP85: Problem #1, it's out of the shrink-wrap.
[05:14] <bmm> Any MOTU: any comments are welcome on the new upload of inotify. I've gotten the menu item to work and now I'm looking for my first advocate. Please see: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6103
[05:14] <royel> Nutubuntu: was trying to dig something up on that, seems strange, I certainly would NOT change the driver
[05:14] <zepolen> HEP85: with vista? - that the box it came in smelled funny
[05:14] <royel> Nutubuntu: the 6150, if I'm correct is not that old
[05:14] <zepolen> like old cheese, or my feet
[05:15] <Nutubuntu> royel, I can't find anything on it either - am *not* changing the driver; one thing I *did* find was that the 6150 should take glx not legacy
[05:15] <dyrne> zepolen: its the brimstone
[05:15] <ikonia> zepolen please stop talkinb about vista
[05:15] <HEP85> zepolen: now I know why you were kicked from their channel
[05:15] <zepolen> HEP85: yep :)
[05:15] <royel> Nutubuntu: correct
[05:15] <stuart_> taxman, not yet
[05:15] <Linuturk> ikonia, this server has been off for a while. It is a vmware server, and we needed to startup an image. and, it holds back the package with both apt-get and aptitude. I don't think it's an error per say, more like it doesn't want to update that particular package. This is a meta package that depends on the most recent image server kernel
[05:15] <Nutubuntu> t/y royel - and g'day to all; be back later :)
[05:15] <bmm> bye
[05:15] <Poul|raider> what version is beryl current in?
[05:15] <ikonia> Linuturk have you rebooted the server to make sure your previous updates where applied
[05:15] <genii> aricz: OK, well try then: umount / ; mount -o rw /
[05:15] <taxman> stuart_: ok, what are you doing to mount it. From Places or from a command line?
[05:16] <ikonia> Linuturk: I've seen it do that if previous updates have not been applied
[05:16] <stuart_> taxman, found a site that asked me to mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/new but it still doesn't work
[05:16] <catskul> My coworker just did a routine update which included a kernel apparently and now refuses to boot completely because of some nvidia driver problem... anyone heard of anything like this recently ?
[05:16] <ikonia> stuart_ sudo
[05:16] <zepolen> christ is canonical paying you guys or do you do it on your own time?
[05:16] <ikonia> catskul nvidia won't stop it booting
[05:16] <Moduliz0r> How do I run a program under a different user in Ubuntu!?
[05:16] <aricz> genii : ok, need to quit bitchx for that.. no more ttys open.. just this one .. umount / ; mount -o rw /
[05:16] <Linuturk> ikonia, no I haven't rebooted, but no kernel updates were applied in the last cycle. just programs like samba and firefox
[05:16] <stuart_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, or too many mounted systems
[05:16] <raindancer> Poul|raider: Beryls development is discontinued.
[05:16] <Linuturk> ikonia, and some X components
[05:16] <genii> aricz: Yes, with the ;
[05:16] <ikonia> Linuturk thats very strange, I can't believe your not getting any warnings. Anything in the syslog
[05:16] <bullgard4> Using the 'Create_Launcher' dialog I created a panel applet. It works all right. What is the filename of this Launcher?
[05:16] <erUSUL> Moduliz0r: with sudo ;)
[05:16] <catskul> ikonia, it will stop it from starting X
[05:16] <IntuitiveNipple> catskul: Sounds like the coworker has the Nvidia driver, which will need rebuilding if the kernel version changes
[05:16] <zepolen> wish i found this channel 10 years ago when i first started using linux :/
[05:17] <taxman> stuart_: try sudo mkdir /media/hdb1 ; mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1
[05:17] <ikonia> stuart_ what type of FS is it
[05:17] <Moduliz0r> Not under root :/
[05:17] <ikonia> catskul yes it, will, but thats not what you said
[05:17] <raindancer> Poul|raider: get Compiz instead. They merged...
[05:17] <Poul|raider> raindancer, oki :) half a year since i last booted linux so arent up to date :)
[05:17] <stuart_> it's NTFS
[05:17] <zuzuzzzip> is there any other support channel that's less crowded?
[05:17] <taxman> stuart_: that command failed because -t ext3 is telling it the wrong fs type
[05:17] <Moduliz0r> How do I run a program under another user (NOT ROOT)
[05:17] <ikonia> stuart_ right so thats why -t ext3 itsn't working
[05:17] <swmiller6> Poul|raider: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[05:17] <ikonia> stuart_: -t ntfs
[05:17] <catskul> ikonia, what is included in the boot process is open for debate
[05:17] <raindancer> Poul|raider just search for Open Compositing
[05:17] <ikonia> Moduliz0r start it as another use or use sudo -c
[05:17] <catskul> IntuitiveNipple, no.. its a standard package
[05:17] <Poul|raider> raindancer
[05:17] <Ramy> what's the keyboard shortcut for show desktop ?
[05:17] <erUSUL> Moduliz0r: sudo <user> command (i told you already)
[05:17] <Poul|raider> ok
[05:17] <Poul|raider> raindancer, ok :)
[05:17] <zepolen> Poul|raider: dont type sudo :/
[05:17] <ikonia> catskul not really - launching X is not "failing to boot"
[05:18] <ikonia> catskul if your nvidia driver is wrong - update it to a compatible version
[05:18] <Moduliz0r> Not helpful.
[05:18] <IntuitiveNipple> catskul: "nvidia" or "nv" driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:18] <HEP85> Moduliz0r: with su
[05:18] <zuzuzzzip> Ramy: look in your beryl manager shortcus
[05:18] <stuart_> haha
[05:18] <stuart_> dang! okayyyy
[05:18] <Moduliz0r> Lets say I wanted to run /usr/bin/lololol as the user jesus
[05:18] <Sivik__> !grub
[05:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:18] <ikonia> stuart_ you get it ?
[05:18] <stuart_> thanks. but what chmod do i need to set for a normal user to see the dir.
[05:18] <Poul|raider> anyway, gotta figure out how to remove this beryl stuff i got now then :)
[05:18] <Moduliz0r> how would I do that from the command line?
[05:18] <stuart_> yup i did. thanks agani.
[05:18] <Linuturk> ikonia, nothing of revelance int he syslog. Just some floppy errors from the virtual os trying to pull from the floppy
[05:18] <ikonia> Moduliz0r then you have to be the user jesus - or use sudo -c
[05:18] <Poul|raider> are there still no sound drivers to x-fi?
[05:18] <taxman> ikonia: why isn't his drive showing up in fstab automagically though?
[05:18] <Moduliz0r> SUDO -C says its an INVALID OPTION
[05:18] <royel> stuart_: 777 will work
[05:18] <catskul> ikonia: ok but technically if everything else works and the shell fails to start you could still say the system booted... its semantics
[05:18] <ikonia> taxman fstab is manually edited
[05:18] <Moduliz0r> sudo: illegal option `-c'
[05:19] <ikonia> Moduliz0r show me the exact option
[05:19] <ikonia> royel no it won't
[05:19] <Moduliz0r> lee@XNServer:~$ sudo -c
[05:19] <Moduliz0r> sudo: illegal option `-c'
[05:19] <Moduliz0r> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[05:19] <Moduliz0r> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[05:19] <Moduliz0r>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
 i'm using metacity ?
[05:19] <Archoniam> Allo... Ugh... Here AGAIN after figuring out my checkinstall problem. My checkinstall keeps getting permission denied anywhere in my homefolder or otherwise. The error is (i say it again, YES i frigging used sudo): /var/tmp/oKAWXAclJQTZiUDRnHLOP/installscript.sh: 4: /home/archoniam/Linux/swftools-0.8.1.tar.gz: Permission denied
[05:19] <ikonia> royel you can't change permissions on an nfts drive
[05:19] <royel> ikonia: why not?
[05:19] <Flannel> Moduliz0r: Stop pasting.  What are you trying to do with -c?
[05:19] <HEP85> Moduliz0r: su user -c /usr/bin/lololol
[05:19] <taxman> stuart_: the commands we gave will mount it manually, you will need to set up fstab to get it to mount automatically if you want that
[05:19] <Moduliz0r> Someone told me to!
[05:19] <catskul> IntuitiveNipple, its the propriatary nvidia so 'nvidia' but its the standard package installed via apt-get
[05:19] <zuzuzzzip> oh
[05:19] <royel> ikonia: he is changing the permission on the mount point
[05:19] <Flannel> Moduliz0r: alright, but for what reason?
[05:19] <taxman> ikonia: no, mine was created automagically
[05:19] <ikonia> royel so ?
[05:19] <ikonia> royel ntfs is read only
[05:20] <ikonia> taxman shouldn't be, /etc/mtab should be not fstab
[05:20] <robert_> brb
[05:20] <royel> ikonia: yes, but the mount point is not
[05:20] <stuart_> taxman, yep, read on the site and I added a line to /etc/fstab. if it doesn't mount the next time ill come back here no worreis :D
[05:20] <zepolen> ntfs is most definitely not read only
[05:20] <_imran_> is it a bad idea to clock my hardware?
[05:20] <robert_> if I come back using bitchx cursing and swearing, this didn't work
[05:20] <robert_> heh
[05:20] <Moduliz0r> How would I make it auto-enter the password? This has to be in an auto start thing
[05:20] <stuart_> so is it chmod 777 /mnt/hd2 for all access?
[05:20] <zepolen> stop spreading fud ikonia
[05:20] <ikonia> stuart_ no no no
[05:20] <zuzuzzzip> Ramy: ni beryl its <super>F6
[05:20] <ikonia> zepolen I'm not - NTFS as a file system driver is read only
[05:20] <taxman> stuart_: just make sure in your options in fstab you put ro, ntfs doesn't work well rw
[05:20] <Linuturk> ikonia, any more ideas? I can try a reboot later today after they finish with the virtual OS, but I believe I've tried the rebooting before
[05:20] <ikonia> Linuturk just fishing around
[05:20] <aricz> genii : hehe, and now /etc/hdc disseapered too.. and no hdd either.. not sure what's going on here
[05:21] <zepolen> ikonia: then you mean the LINUX driver for ntfs supports read only
 sorry, what is meant by super ?
[05:21] <zepolen> not that ntfs is read only :p
[05:21] <ikonia> zepolen this is a linux channel and the user is using linux - please stop refencing windows
[05:21] <aricz> genii : but umount / and mount -o / .. didn't work either
[05:21] <royel> ikonia: he asked so other users can see the directory, which is gonna be the mount point
[05:21] <ikonia> Moduliz0r: su -c - sorry - not sudo
[05:21] <genii> aricz: For now just worry about getting / clean :) We return to CD/DVD after that
[05:21] <aricz> genii : I'm in 'normal' mode now btw
[05:21] <berent> in dmesg it says  This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!. Jack_Sparrow .
[05:21] <zuzuzzzip> Ramy: its the windows key by default if you have one
[05:21] <_imran_> is it a bad idea to clock my hardware?
[05:21] <ikonia> royel I see what your getting at
[05:21] <Moduliz0r> Dont worry I am not doing it any more
[05:21] <stuart_> do i need to put rw? i just put /dev/hdb1   /mnt/hd2   ntfs    defaults     0 0
[05:21] <aricz> genii : ok hehe
[05:21] <Moduliz0r> too complicated
[05:21] <Flannel> Moduliz0r: with init (and upstart) stuff, you don't use sudo as part of the program running, when it runs, it runs as a different user
[05:21] <Flannel> !bum | Moduliz0r
[05:21] <ubotu> Moduliz0r: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:22] <Moduliz0r> Flannel I dont want Sudo, just to run a program as another user
[05:22] <genii> aricz: You have more tty then?
[05:22] <ikonia> Moduliz0r su -c is your friend
[05:22] <aricz> genii : yap:)
[05:22] <Moduliz0r> not in upstart.
[05:22] <Flannel> Moduliz0r: you can use sudo to do that, the option is sudo -u [user]  [commands] 
[05:22] <ikonia> yup - or sudo -u - good call
[05:22] <Flannel> ikonia: please don't recommend the use of su here.  thanks
[05:22] <Moduliz0r> >.> I already said I dont want sudo
[05:22] <genii> aricz: OK good. does:  mount          command show / as being rw ?
[05:22] <Moduliz0r> anyway i've abandonned that
[05:22] <ikonia> Flannel sudo is a valid option, he's not switinc users to root, but I see what you saying
[05:23] <ikonia> oops
[05:23] <ikonia> su - c
[05:23] <ikonia> su - c not sudo
[05:23] <ikonia> ughh
[05:23] <ikonia> bad typing sorry
[05:23] <aricz> genii : /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[05:23] <Moduliz0r> I've abandonned that ffs
[05:23] <genii> just mount  no options
[05:23] <Flannel> Moduliz0r: Actually, for daemons, usually there's a thing in the config file that'll specify what user to run as
[05:23] <Moduliz0r> eh?
[05:23] <Moduliz0r> Ok can anyone help me with Hybserv
[05:23] <qrt> I have a file made by Revelation password manager and I need to open it in Windows, does anyone know how I can do that?
[05:24] <anandanbu> I having problems with mounting the USB drive of FAT32 filesystem in Ubuntu 7.04
[05:24] <ikonia> anandanbu what sort of problems
[05:24] <zepolen> i have a problem with ubuntu
[05:24] <genii> aricz: Did you try to copy the backup over the faulty one yet? (fstab)
[05:24] <aricz> genii : UUID=2b56451b-4031-4d70-a6a2-38448e035f9c /               ext3    defaults,erro .. that's line 9 in fstab .. rs=remount-ro 0       1 .. that's line 10
[05:24] <ikonia> zepolen whats the problem
[05:24] <zepolen> guess
[05:24] <Moduliz0r> Argh
[05:24] <ikonia> zepolen just tell use hte problem if you have one
[05:24] <zuzuzzzip> so anybody know how to get my sound going through two channels again instead of
[05:24] <aricz> genii : yep, it won't let me write
[05:24] <zuzuzzzip> 2 into 1
[05:24] <Moduliz0r> the ircd-hybrid room is SILENT
[05:24] <stuart_> eh, how'd i chmod my 2nd HD to be accessible to normal users?
[05:24] <zepolen> i dont :/
[05:24] <Moduliz0r> Nobody talks
[05:24] <ikonia> zepolen please stop trolling before I report you
[05:24] <zepolen> fine fine
[05:25] <aricz> genii : anyway, line 10 and 9 is supposed to go together.. that's where the error is :) in fstab
[05:25] <Moduliz0r> What the hell is the point in IRC if nobody ever speaks!?
[05:25] <anandanbu> ikonia: i having a 1gb USB drive of FAT32 and it doesn't show up when i plug it in my ubuntu 7.04 system
[05:25] <ikonia> Moduliz0r people are speaking - clam down
[05:25] <Moduliz0r> Not here
[05:25] <Moduliz0r> Im talking about another room
[05:25] <Moduliz0r> channel*
[05:25] <zepolen> channel!
[05:25] <zuzuzzzip> talk about it there
[05:25] <HEP85> Moduliz0r: su user -c will work. I don't know what you want else?
[05:25] <ikonia> Moduliz0r then don't moan about it in here - this is ubuntu support
[05:25] <genii> aricz: Yup. Trying to still remember how unmount/remount rw successfully when in ro mode :/
[05:25] <zuzuzzzip> they'll read it eventualy, thats how u use irc :)
[05:25] <Templar> what program is best for converting divx avi etc to dvd for a dvd player that would possibly let you create menus etc
[05:25] <zepolen> Templar: buy the dvd
[05:26] <ikonia> anandanbu can you see the plug in event in /var/log/syslog
[05:26] <Moduliz0r> is there a torrent daemon?
[05:26] <anandanbu> ikonia: i would look in to that now
[05:26] <ikonia> anandanbu cool
[05:26] <Templar> no its from a camera
[05:26] <dyrne> Templar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193754&highlight=avi+dvd+script looks interesting
[05:26] <qrt> Templar: Most dvd players can play xvid, if yours can't a new one is very cheap
[05:26] <HEP85> Moduliz0r: and during boot it will not ask for a password because during boot you have root permissions
[05:26] <royel> zepolen: your assuming he has an copyrighted movie, he may have a home movie or some sort
[05:26] <Templar> surf clips
[05:26] <zepolen> your camera produces divx?
[05:26] <Templar> not mine
[05:26] <Moduliz0r> HEP85: I said ages ago I am not bothered about that any more
[05:26] <Moduliz0r> I deleted it
[05:26] <Templar> cheers
[05:26] <anandanbu> ikonia: where do i find that is there any simple solution
[05:27] <genii> aricz: OK: umount / ; mount -o rw /dev/hda1 /
[05:27] <Falstius> if anyone syncs home directories between multiple machines, what do you use?
[05:27] <zepolen> which camera is that?
[05:27] <HEP85> Moduliz0r: whatever
[05:27] <ikonia> anandanbu I gave you where to look
[05:27] <ikonia> anandanbu: /var/log/syslog
[05:27] <Templar> the software allows conversion from avi
[05:27] <royel> Falstius: rsync
[05:27] <genii> (so it not uses fstab)
[05:27] <ikonia> Falstius  rysnc, or wget depending on whats required
[05:27] <anandanbu> ikonia: but there is too much to look in that file
[05:27] <aricz> genii : mount: line 1 "/dev/hda1 already mounted or / busy" line 2 "mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /"
[05:27] <ikonia> anandanbu look at the boot - or tail -f if, and plug the drive in to see if you see the event
[05:27] <Linuturk> Falstius, look into rsync
[05:28] <OldPink> Hi all
[05:28] <ikonia> OldPink hello
[05:28] <Falstius> Linuturk: royel: do you just keep both concurrent or have snapshots there too?
[05:28] <ikonia> Falstius they sync - not keep snapshots
[05:28] <anandanbu> ikonia: im gettin a folder in /media/sdba/
[05:28] <royel> Falstius: ^^ what she said
[05:29] <royel> or he :)
[05:29] <ikonia> anandanbu is there anything in that folder
[05:29] <ikonia> royel he ;)
[05:29] <anandanbu> ikonia:no there is not
[05:29] <ikonia> anandanbu is there anything on your usb drive ?
[05:30] <anandanbu> ikonia: there is no data in that but i need to copy to that
[05:30] <ikonia> anandanbu there you go then
[05:30] <zepolen> help i typed 'sudo rm -rf /' and my computer started playing porn
[05:30] <ikonia> anandanbu /media/$drive is your usb drive
[05:30] <genii> aricz: OK, try then just: mount -n -s -o rw /
[05:30] <Falstius> ikonia: royel: okay.  I was hoping to set up something where one machine keeps differential snapshots and both machines are synced with the current versions.  Kind of like rdiff-backup.
[05:30] <ikonia> thats why its empty
[05:30] <ikonia> zepolen I'm reporting you
[05:30] <anandanbu> ikonia: yeah /media/sdb1/
[05:30] <stuart_> i did a chmod 777 /mnt/hd2 but normal users still can't access the HD
[05:30] <aricz> genii : same error-message
[05:30] <genii> Bah. Who can recall how to remount / rw when in ro mode??
[05:30] <ikonia> stuart_ I told you not to do that
[05:30] <Moduliz0r> ok is there a Linux Internet media daemon?
[05:30] <royel> ikonia: he left
[05:31] <Moduliz0r>  network media server*
[05:31] <ikonia> royel: thanks
[05:31] <anandanbu> ikonia: how do i access that drive
[05:31] <royel> ikonia: hopefully nobody will be foolish enough to try an use that command
[05:31] <ikonia> anandanbu the same way you do any other directory
[05:31] <Falstius> genii: mount -o rw /  doesn't work?
[05:31] <ikonia> royel
[05:31] <ikonia> oops
[05:31] <ikonia> royel yes, hopefully
[05:31] <Falstius> er, mount -o remount,rw /
[05:31] <anandanbu> ikonia: tell me how to do that
[05:32] <Moduliz0r> Anybody? Is there a network media server daemon?
[05:32] <Ramy> i want to minimize all windows <show desktop> , (i'm using Metacity) with keyboard shortcut ?
[05:32] <Nergar> where can i talk to a MOTU?
[05:32] <ikonia> anandanbu exactly the same way as you write data to any directory on your hard disk
[05:32] <stuart_> ikonia, is there anything i should undo since i did?
[05:32] <genii> Falstius: Apparently not
[05:32] <ikonia> stuart_ nah, you may want to reboot so udev re-creates your /dev device files
[05:32] <jussi01> Nergar: #ubuntu-motu
[05:32] <catskul> ...I just performed the same update and had the same Xorg failure so I have to imagine others have had the same problem. Has no one heard of anyone else having this problem ?
[05:32] <aricz> Falstius : EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "erro" or missing value..
[05:32] <anandanbu> ikonia: but iam not able to copy anythin to that
[05:32] <stuart_> k
[05:32] <Falstius> Moduliz0r: nfs is simple, or something like mythtv if you want it fancy
[05:32] <Nergar> jussi01, thnx
[05:32] <ikonia> anandanbu what does it say ?
[05:33] <anandanbu> ikonia: it says you are not the root
[05:33] <Falstius> aricz: what is the command like you used exactly?
[05:33] <RainCT> Hi
[05:33] <victor__> oi
[05:33] <Moduliz0r> Falstius:  can mythtv be run textmode? I use ubuntu server
[05:33] <Some_Person> I'm trying to modify the "Screen Resolution" item in the System -> Preferences menu, yet when I modify it, the icon for it becomes less detailed and blurry
[05:33] <aricz> Falstius : the one you just typed in here.. mount -o remount,rw /
[05:33] <Moduliz0r> or is it a GUI program?
[05:33] <anandanbu> ikonia: sorry for the mistake now iam able to copy files to that
[05:33] <Templar> is there no program like nero for ubuntu for creating your own dvds that lest u convert from most formats to dvd format create menus with multiple files etc?
[05:33] <genii> Falstius: Remember too he is in safe mode
[05:33] <anandanbu> ikonia: thanks for your help
[05:33] <aricz> genii : not now, now I'm in normal mode
[05:33] <novato_br> dudes, i want to make pendrive boot with ubuntu's cd instalation, but when I make copy the files from CD doesn't works one copy of filesystem.squashfs, why ?
[05:33] <novato_br> why doesnt works ?
[05:33] <victor__> oi
[05:34] <Falstius> genii: aricz: shouldn't matter.  Did you run fschk.ext3 ?
[05:34] <Jordan_U> Templar, There is always nero :)
[05:34] <Templar> ya true
[05:34] <juno> hi i have a problem with Beryl Manager
[05:34] <genii> aricz: Ah, OK Falstius Disregard safemode comment
[05:34] <kbrooks> ping
[05:34] <Templar> but open source
[05:34] <juno> it freezes my system
[05:34] <Falstius> Moduliz0r: what's wrong with just nfs then?
[05:34] <RainCT> any idea why SSH needs over 30 seconds until it asks me for the key password when I connect to a PC on the same network? is this normal?
[05:34] <Moduliz0r> What can nfs do?
[05:34] <aricz> Falstius : what do you mean? fschk.ext3.
[05:35] <Moduliz0r> !nfs
[05:35] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:35] <juno> 7.04 ubuntu
[05:35] <catskul> juno, Beryl is still not quite stable
[05:35] <catskul>  : (
[05:35] <genii> fsck rather
[05:35] <Falstius> Moduliz0r: it lets you export directories that other machines can mount (mostly linux although I think windows nfs clients are available).  they'll look like local directories to users of the other machines.
[05:35] <royel> RainCT: I get that at times, good time for me to find out why... <asks google>
[05:35] <Some_Person> I'm trying to modify the "Screen Resolution" item in the System -> Preferences menu with Alacarte, yet when I modify it, the icon for it becomes less detailed and blurry
[05:35] <Moduliz0r> No thats not what I need...
[05:35] <Falstius> aricz: it is how you check your filesystem for errors
[05:36] <aricz> Falstius : WARNING: bad format on line 10 of /etc/fstab
[05:36] <Moduliz0r> I need like, you know Orb for windows?
[05:36] <juno> i know but it worked just fine before...
[05:36] <Moduliz0r> like a network media / streaming server
[05:36] <roland_> hello...
[05:36] <fjoesne> catskul: hehe compiz is worse if that is some comfort :D
[05:36] <juno> and do you know how can i "reset" it settings?
[05:36] <Falstius> genii: aricz: yeah, fsck.ext3 (I should check commands before telling people them)
[05:36] <juno> i think i messed them :)
[05:36] <roland_> i have a problem with my Xorg 7.1 , when its running at 1024x768 the screen is too big and maximizing anything goes over th screen limiits
[05:37] <aricz> Falstius : ok, I've not done that..
[05:37] <catskul> juno, did you do things via menus or command line ?
[05:37] <Moduliz0r> roland_: Adjust your monitor's settings
[05:37] <juno> menus
[05:37] <genii> aricz: Doing some research on this, AFK
[05:37] <Some_Person> Can anyone help me with my minor issue?
[05:37] <Moduliz0r> roland_: with the controls on your monitor
[05:37] <juno> it freezes on start
[05:37] <dyrne> roland_: that is the actual buttons on your monitor
[05:37] <Poul|Raider_> i installed beryl 0.3 long ago and just booted up linux again - anyone who can help me remove beryl?
[05:37] <roland_> Moduliz0r i dont have what to adjust, actually i cant
[05:37] <roland_> no its a Xorg bug
[05:37] <juno> i think i forced not nvodoa but other option..
[05:37] <Falstius> aricz: make sure / is mounted RO and then run that (there are switches for a more thorough check, but start with the basic).  If there is a filesystem error it may prevent mounting RW.
[05:37] <roland_> all worked well until yesterday
[05:37] <Moduliz0r> no idea then
[05:38] <zzaza> hi all
[05:38] <aricz> Falstius : the problem is my /etc/fstab..
[05:38] <roland_> im running at 1024x768
[05:38] <roland_> on a 15" TFT
[05:38] <Falstius> Moduliz0r: ahh, I don't know anything about that.
[05:38] <juno> catskul any ideas?
[05:38] <aricz> Falstius : line 9 and 10 in /etc/fstab should be together.. :)
[05:38] <aricz> Falstius : I cut'n'paste into /etc/fstab .. and forgot to fix the cut lines
[05:38] <Falstius> aricz: ahh.
[05:39] <Benny> hi, can someone help me please. I have an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945. It does not work but it has before.
[05:39] <genii> Falstius the fstab entry for / is messed, so it boots in RO. then when fsck tries it goes to fstab, causes error etc
[05:39] <aricz> Falstius : but I can't edit /etc/fstab.. because of / ro .. :)
[05:39] <genii> chicken-egg thing
[05:39] <aricz> hehe
[05:39] <Falstius> aricz: so don't use fstab, sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1 /
[05:39] <catskul> juno, i believe on 7.04 there is a system menu item which is something to the effect of "turn on/off desktop effects"
[05:39] <ikonia> genii thats probably nothing to do with /etc/fstab unless you've edited it
[05:39] <Benny> hi, can someone help me please. I have an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945. It does not work but it has before.
[05:39] <catskul> Id try there
[05:39] <Falstius> aricz: replacing /dev/sda1 with your proper partition ofcourse
[05:40] <genii> ikonia We already know exact line in fstab that is the issue actually, it's over 2 lines after a botched copy/paste
[05:40] <ikonia> genii ahh ok, so you have edited it
[05:40] <roland_> sorry mates, i used monitor controls and indeed the screen is fixed now
[05:40] <aricz> Falstius : ok, that worked
[05:40] <dyrne> Benny: stopped working after an update?
[05:40] <roland_> thanks
[05:40] <Benny> i think so
[05:40] <aricz> genii: now I managed to edit /etc/fstab .. and fix line 9 and 10
[05:40] <aricz> genii : :) so, I'll just reboot now
[05:40] <genii> ikonia Yes and now the backup can't be used since all is RO  ...bleh
[05:41] <royel> RainCT: try this: in /etc/ssh/ssh_config  ForwardX11 no
[05:41] <Benny> dyrne:  it does not show up when i right click the network connection manager in the taskbar
[05:41] <genii> aricz: You need to keep a livecd around my friend
[05:41] <kbrooks> can someone please go to http://fswh.ath.cx and tell me what they see
[05:41] <roland_> someone please tell me a good alternative to firefox that can support flash, i cant stand firefox any minute longer
[05:41] <roland_> seamonkey?
[05:42] <jussi01> firefox supports flash....
[05:42] <Benny> kbrooks: Free Shell/Web Hosting
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[05:42] <juno> catskul the problem occures only when i open the "Beryl Manager"
[05:42] <Benny> Copyright  2007 Kyle Brooks.
[05:42] <dyrne> Benny: not sure. id try 1) sudo ifconfig -a and see if it shows up. if not: at grub menu selecting your old kernel and see if it works. if so i guess it might be a bug if that fixes it. i dont know the manager gui at all though
[05:42] <roland_> yes but firefox is not really usable on my computer
[05:42] <kbrooks> because if i go to http://fswh.ath,cx on this network
[05:42] <genii> darn just missed him
[05:42] <SlimeyPete> roland_: opera? There's also Konqueror, but flash is tricky on that.
[05:42] <jussi01> !paste
[05:42] <roland_> it crashes too much
[05:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:42] <kbrooks> it doesnt work
[05:42] <gursikh> Where do I find information about translating ubuntu into another language? (not just translating gnome, but everything else too [if there is anything else] )
[05:42] <roland_> SlimeyPete: Opera for Linux supports flash?
[05:42] <RoundyT1> where can i learn how to package things?
[05:42] <kbrooks> because if i go to http://fswh.ath,cx on this network, it doesnt  work
[05:42] <kbrooks> because if i go to http://fswh.ath,cx on this network, it doesnt  work
[05:42] <roland_> can i get opera from debian repositories ?
[05:42] <juno> no freezes with "Beryl Settings Manager
[05:42] <kbrooks> er
[05:42] <Moduliz0r> So does anyone know a bittorrent daemon? that can download torrents in the background and maybe have a web-based interface?
[05:42] <PriceChild> kbrooks, you have a comma in there ;)
[05:42] <kbrooks> because if i go to http://fswh.ath.cx on this network, it doesnt  work
[05:42] <SlimeyPete> roland_: no but you can get a .deb from the opera site
[05:42] <jussi01> roland_: grab epiphany
[05:43] <SlimeyPete> roland_: and I'm fairly sure it supports flash, yes
[05:43] <kbrooks> PriceChild, i know, typo
[05:43] <Benny> dyrne: thansk
[05:43] <roland_> epiphany supports flash?
[05:43] <Some_Person> I'm trying to modify the "Screen Resolution" item in the System -> Preferences menu with Alacarte, yet when I modify it, the icon for it becomes less detailed and blurry
[05:43] <jussi01> roland_: i beleve so...
[05:43] <SlimeyPete> roland_: though you might have to manually install the plugin having downloaded it from macromedia
[05:43] <catskul> juno, Im not sure... I was suggesting that you turn off desktop effects. If you want to keep them and try to debug you might try starting beryl-manager from the command line and see if there are any debug/error messages
[05:43] <kbrooks> it resolves fine
[05:43] <kbrooks> ... anyone/
[05:43] <kbrooks> ... anyone?
[05:43] <royel> kbrooks: it resolves, I seen the page
[05:43] <kbrooks> royel, i'm talki5ng about from here
[05:44] <HEP85> Moduliz0r: torrentflux. runs on a webserver using PHP+SQL and python for the torrents
[05:44] <Moduliz0r> ok
[05:44] <royel> kbrooks: where is here?
[05:44] <genii> HEP85: nice
[05:44] <kbrooks> it resolves fine..... connects fine..... asks for the page fine...... but doesnt get the page.
[05:44] <Arso> i are uberpenguin
[05:44] <kbrooks> royel, a home LAN
[05:45] <RainCT> royel: ok, changed it (and also installed the package it says in bug #111553), thanks. can't check if it works now tought because once I logged in once it works fine
[05:45] <Arso> royel back.
[05:45] <genii> Arso Shouldn't it be more like   Ich bin ein uberpenguin ?
[05:45] <Moduliz0r> aww
[05:45] <Moduliz0r> i dont want to install apache and then have to go through the config
[05:45] <kbrooks> royel, ?
[05:45] <younghacker> hello I am trying to use gem to install postgres and i am getting some errors
[05:45] <Arso> genii i only know uber :P
[05:45] <roland_> where can i get cool debian t-shirt?
[05:45] <aantn> !terminal
[05:45] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:45] <kbrooks> royel, ?
[05:45] <Some_Person> I'm trying to modify the "Screen Resolution" item in the System -> Preferences menu with Alacarte, yet when I modify it, the icon for it becomes less detailed and blurry
[05:45] <royel> kbrooks: couldnt say, perhaps something with your browser?
[05:45] <younghacker> can n-e-1 help me out
[05:45] <royel> Arso: wb
[05:46] <royel> RainCT: gl
[05:46] <Moduliz0r> ive had enough of config files today
[05:46] <genii> Arso :)
[05:46] <jo3nix> !file permissions
[05:46] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[05:46] <kbrooks> royel: dunno
[05:46] <bullgard4> How to use the program Tracker via Nautilus? I do not understand the section 'Tracker And Nautilus Search' in /usr/share/doc/tracker-search-tool/README.gz.
[05:46] <berent> !iso
[05:46] <Arso> 95.2% of ubuntu done, wee :D
[05:46] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:46] <dyrne> roland_: http://www.us.debian.org/
[05:46] <royel> kbrooks: test from another machine produces same result?
[05:46] <zuzuzzzip> i have a problem with my sound, both left and right of my Analog Front only come through left channel
[05:46] <roland_>  that ships worldwide
[05:46] <royel> kbrooks: perhaps try another browser
[05:46] <berent> !md5
[05:46] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:46] <Arso> goddamnit, i have to go buy a cd :S
[05:46] <RoundyT1> where can i learn how to package things?
[05:46] <gerro> If you have a dual boot setup and windows dies out on you like usual how can you reinstall it without having to reinstall the working ubuntu partition?
[05:46] <kbrooks> royel, another machine  on the network?
[05:46] <berent> !burning
[05:47] <royel> kbrooks: what do you see, just a blank white page?
[05:47] <genii> kbrooks If you put some non-default theme on FireFox revert to standard and try again
[05:47] <younghacker> ERROR:  While executing gem ... (Errno::EACCES)
[05:47] <younghacker>     Permission denied - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/postgres-0.7.1/ChangeLog
[05:47] <manic> curious...can one use an iso on a usb flash drive to boot the machine?
[05:47] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:47] <cdavis> I am unable to get xine into borderless mode running feisty
[05:47] <kbrooks> genii, nope
[05:47] <younghacker> I get that error message from gem install postgres
[05:47] <gerro> like some sort of grub repair from live cd?
[05:47] <gursikh> Is there anyways to change languages on the fly?
[05:47] <kbrooks> royel, "waiting for fswh.ath.cx... "
[05:47] <genii> kbrooks: Ok. Another user had this theme/no page load issue earlier
[05:48] <gerro> gursikh: each user can have own language i think
[05:48] <kbrooks> genii, not my theme
[05:48] <bullgard4> Using the 'Create_Launcher' dialog I created a panel applet. It works all right. What is the filename of this Launcher?
[05:48] <gursikh> gerro, no way to change it without logging out/in ?
[05:48] <genii> aricz: wb
[05:48] <genii> aricz: I am soon going for lunch (10 minutes) just so you know
[05:49] <Arso> oo, can i install ubuntu from a flash drive?
[05:49] <aricz> genii : hallo! hehe.. :) well, I cp /etc/backup/fstab to /etc/fstab .. it's all back to normal .. /dev/hdc exists .. so, happy ending after all :)
[05:49] <s0nix> hi, i want to know: is it possible to REDOWNLOAD (not reinstall) all INSTALLED packages with apt-get ?
[05:49] <ikonia> Arso: its quite tricky, and depends if your motherboard supports boot from usb
[05:49] <kbrooks> royel: ok
[05:49] <royel> kbrooks: curious, how does this page look to you
[05:49] <royel> kbrooks: http://pengserv.servegame.com/
[05:49] <genii> aricz: OK so back to CD/DVD LOL
[05:49] <genii> work, afk
[05:49] <Arso> ikonia any idea how i can find out?
[05:49] <aricz> genii : hehe :P
[05:49] <ikonia> Arso look in your bios options or the support manual
[05:49] <manic> we installed freebsd from a flash drive, but we had to install an o/s on the flash drive first, we couldn't just use an iso
[05:49] <Arso> ikonia okay :)
[05:49] <gursikh> Arso, also, not every flash drive will work
[05:50] <Arso> sigh, nevermind
[05:50] <Arso> i 'll go to the bloody supermarket n get a cd :(
[05:50] <IntuitiveNipple> Arso: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476302
[05:50] <kbrooks> royel, works
[05:50] <gursikh> Arso, the 3rd one I tried worked and installed ubuntu from that
[05:50] <denisVlue> ^^
[05:50] <Arso> gursikh nice
[05:50] <kbrooks> royel, do i reboot server?
[05:50] <Some_Person> Can I put nvidia-settings in the Preferences menu with the icon of Screen Resolution? I'm trying but I end up with a less-detailed blurry icon every time
[05:50] <aricz> genii : ok, 'mount /dev/hdc /cdrom' did it.. it's working! :)
[05:50] <royel> kbrooks: then it maybe something with your DNS
[05:50] <royel> kbrooks: server seems ok
[05:51] <Arso> can i broadcast radio to the internet ?
[05:51] <aricz> genii : so thank you so much for your time&help .. man, almost 2 hours now? :)
[05:51] <kbrooks> royel, it resolved OK
[05:51] <genii> back
[05:51] <kbrooks> royel, not DNS
[05:51] <ikonia> Arso you can broadcast internet radio
[05:51] <PriceChild> !away > sunk|away
[05:51] <genii> aricz: Well, it should not be mounting there, but good to know is at least working somewhat
[05:51] <lasse_> Arso:  what do you have in mind  ? (the short answer is yes)
[05:51] <royel> kbrooks: so what is the problem?
[05:51] <stuart_> weird. whenever i try to go online, i can't.
[05:52] <Arso> lasse ikonia just a way to listen to the same music at the same time with my gf.
[05:52] <kbrooks> royel, it times out here is the problem!
[05:52] <stuart_> i'm connected, but i can't access anything
[05:52] <aricz> genii : where should I mount it?
[05:52] <sunk|away> PriceChild: sorry
[05:52] <ikonia> Arso tons of options for that
[05:52] <juno> ok so anyone with an idea about "Beryl Manager"?
[05:52] <Arso> ikonia lasse just wondering if i need special hardware or a special connection
[05:52] <dr_willis> !beryl
[05:52] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:52] <ikonia> Arso a quicker connectionis better
[05:52] <genii> aricz: Should be mounting into the directory /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom1
[05:52] <Ramy>  do u know any keybaord shortcut to minimize all windows=show desktop ?
[05:52] <stuart_> but once i type in 64.2.3.24 or whatever in my browser's address bar, my connections start
[05:52] <genii> aricz: So you see it on your desktop
[05:52] <Arso> ikonia any idea on the minimum connection required for 2 people to listen to that?
[05:52] <kbrooks> Ramy, ctrl+alt+d
[05:53] <ikonia> Arso depends on whats going on, any broad band connection should work "ok"4~
[05:53] <Some_Person> Won't anyone help me?
[05:53] <ikonia> "ok"
[05:53] <genii> Well, not desktop per se but in file browser
[05:53] <aricz> genii : ahhh.. right
[05:53] <ikonia> Some_Person whats the question
[05:53] <lasse_> Arso: ikonia - well if it's only one listener then it shouldn't be a problem even with a slow connection ...
[05:53] <Some_Person> Can I put nvidia-settings in the Preferences menu with the icon of Screen Resolution? I'm trying but I end up with a less-detailed blurry icon every time
[05:53] <kbrooks> Ramy, ctrl+alt+d
[05:53] <Arso> ikonia umm, what do you mean "whats going on"
[05:53] <gerro> gursikh: what do you mean?
[05:53] <kbrooks> royel, it times out here is the problem!
[05:53] <Arso> lasse two listeners.
[05:53] <ikonia> Arso if your doing anything else
[05:53] <hatredx> xserver input driver joystick is broken in ubuntu ... someone fix it! =P
[05:53] <royel> kbrooks: the server is on your local lan?
[05:53] <sts> hello folks!
[05:53] <Arso> ikonia ahh ok
[05:53] <ikonia> Arso no only one as your local
[05:53] <dr_willis> Some_Person,  give it a different icon..        a blury icon is not the end of the world...
[05:53] <kbrooks> royel, YES!
[05:53] <Arso> ikonia oh, great.
[05:53] <Some_Person> i'm trying to give it the one screen resolution uses
[05:53] <genii> dr_willis: Hiyas
[05:53] <Arso> ikonia so any idea what app i should use fro that?
[05:54] <Some_Person> but it looks different
[05:54] <kbrooks> royel, it timmes out on its response though
[05:54] <stuart_> okay back to permissions
[05:54] <gursikh> gerro, I mean I'm in english now, is there anyway to change my language to something non-english without logging out?
[05:54] <stefg> !icons
[05:54] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[05:54] <ikonia> Arso search through synaptic for radio there are a few, but none springs to mind
[05:54] <kbrooks> royel, not DNS, HTTP
[05:54] <stuart_> i'm logged into my user account now and i can't access my 2nd HD. how do i give myself permission to?
[05:54] <gerro> gursikh: i found this article http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Installing_windows_AFTER_Linux but its for red hat
[05:54] <genii> work, AFK
[05:54] <dr_willis> sorry Some_Person  i tend to not worry about little details  like that.. i got other things to work on. :)
[05:54] <Arso> ikonia okay, thank you.
[05:54] <royel> kbrooks: what happens if you do http://x.x.x.x   where x.x.x.x is the IP of your local server ip
[05:54] <ikonia> Arso welcome
[05:54] <dr_willis> Some_Person,  its proberly enarging a small icon then. find the icon, load it in gimp , enlarge it. edit it. tweak it.. have fun.
[05:54] <HEP85> Arso: darkice + icecast-server
[05:55] <dr_willis> enlarging.
[05:55] <aricz> genii : ok, but thanks for the help, deeply appreciated. Now I'll try getting the CD-rom working too.. hehe, have a nice day! Thanks again! :) *joy joy joy*
[05:55] <Some_Person> its an svg
[05:55] <younghacker> I would like to be able to access the pgsql database from ruby,,, so far i have been using gem install postgres and i have been getting errors
[05:55] <Some_Person> it should be scalable
[05:55] <Arso> HEP85 thanks a lot :) , i'll paste that somwehere for now, till i have my ubuntu up n running
[05:55] <kbrooks> royel, ?
[05:55] <gerro> gursikh think there is a language changing applet for panel
[05:55] <gursikh> gerro, that article is about installing windows?
[05:55] <kbrooks> royel, LAN IP or WAN IP?
[05:55] <royel> kbrooks: test it with your server lan ip
[05:55] <HEP85> Arso: np
[05:55] <gerro> gursikh: article is about reinstalling windows when you have linux on separate partition dual booting
[05:55] <kbrooks> royel, that wworks
[05:56] <Arso> weee, my download is done :D
[05:56] <gerro> gursikh: or about having linux installed beforehand
[05:56] <jose__> hola
[05:56] <Arso> oh fuck, i need to install XP first :(
[05:56] <Arso> is it allowed to curse here ? :P
[05:56] <gursikh> gerro, right... my installation is fine....
[05:56] <Some_Person> dr_willis: but its an svg, shouldnt it be scalable
[05:56] <kbrooks> !language | Arso
[05:56] <ubotu> Arso: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:56] <gerro> gursikh: also if you can speak the language but not read it then try getting festival for your specific language it can put words to audio
[05:56] <dr_willis> Some_Person,  proberly should.. but i dont mess with svg icons when i make my icons.
[05:56] <gerro> gursikh: I thought you were replying to my question
[05:56] <younghacker> can someone help me use gem to install postgres
[05:56] <Some_Person> dr_willis: and if its the same icon screen resolution uses, shouldn't it look exactly the same?
[05:56] <dr_willis> Some_Person,  i just work on my own Porn Icon Collection. :)
[05:56] <genii> Well, that was an ordeal but worth it in the end
[05:56] <Falstius> Arso: why would you want to install xp?
[05:57] <Arso> Falstius i am a gamer :D
[05:57] <dr_willis> Some_Person,  aparently its not.. so theres somthing going on. Either its deciding to use a different icon, or its converting it badly.
[05:57] <Arso> Falstius i got so sick of vista and its bs. so i decided on a minimal xp installation for games, and ubuntu for everything else
[05:57] <gursikh> gerro, I can read it just fine, I just was trying to change my entire gui to that language on-the-fly. Be able to switch between 3 languages as I wish without logging out
[05:57] <Falstius> Arso: buy a gamecube, it is cheaper ;)
[05:57] <royel> kbrooks: perhaps some firewall setting it blocking you then
[05:57] <catskul> ...so if anyone comes in with a update+nvidia+broken Xorg problem from a recent update it turns out that edgy will not automatically update restricted drivers even if they were previously installed and their sources are included in sources.list
[05:57] <Arso> Falstius haha, well, i already have relatively good hardware for gaming, spent money on it.
[05:57] <Arso> Falstius and gaming on the pc is more fun
[05:57] <HEP85> Falstius: and play FPS with a controller? LOL
[05:57] <kbrooks> royel, no way
[05:58] <Arso> haha, yea, seriously, consoles are gay
[05:58] <kbrooks> royel, other ppl see it from outside
[05:58] <benyi> hola
[05:58] <Arso> pc gaming ftw
[05:58] <younghacker> can anyone help me with this gem install postgres it returns errors
[05:58] <HEP85> same thing with RTS by the way
[05:58] <Some_Person> dr_willis: http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1088/screenshotim9.png
[05:58] <Arso> same thing with all games
[05:58] <novato_br> where can I find this file syslinux.exe?
[05:58] <younghacker> please
[05:58] <kbrooks> royel, couldnt be my ISP
[05:59] <novato_br> google don't return good results
[05:59] <farski> If I'm using a virtual attribute, like homestring => "hometown, homestate", what's the best way to handle those parts not being set in the getter? Should I use an if, or rescue, or what?
[05:59] <royel> kbrooks: I didnt say it was your ISP, I said it could be a firewall setting
[05:59] <kbrooks> royel, not it
[05:59] <kbrooks> royel, no firewalls on my server
[05:59] <younghacker> checking for cygwin32_socket() in -lwsock32... *** extconf.rb failed ***
[05:59] <younghacker> Could not create Makefile due to some reason, probably lack of
[05:59] <younghacker> necessary libraries and/or headers.  Check the mkmf.log file for more
[05:59] <younghacker> details.  You may need configuration options.
[05:59] <Ramy> thanks kbrooks
[05:59] <Falstius> novato_br: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/boot/syslinux/
[05:59] <Arso> Ramy where are you from?>
[05:59] <Ramy> from Jordan
[06:00] <Arso> cool , i am half Syrian
[06:00] <ikonia> younghacker not really appropriate to support your development here
[06:00] <novato_br> rhx, Falstius
[06:00] <novato_br> i will see it
[06:00] <younghacker> development?
[06:00] <Ramy> Arso, how you are 0.5 Syrian ?
[06:00] <ikonia> younghacker yes your devleoping stuff
[06:00] <kbrooks> younghacker, #ruby-lang please
[06:00] <ikonia> or trying to build stuff
[06:00] <Arso> Ramy my father is syrian, my mother is from elsewhere.
[06:00] <younghacker> oh
[06:00] <younghacker> my bad
[06:01] <Falstius> ikonia: kind of depends on what he is trying to build.  If he'd asked a question instead of pase-flooding it would've been better.
[06:01] <ikonia> Falstius even so - its ubuntu support not software building support, but yes, that would have been a better approach
[06:02] <kbrooks> ikonia, Falstius: ruby stuff. "mkmf" ".rb"
[06:02] <ikonia> kbrooks exactly
[06:03] <Arso> btw guys
[06:03] <ikonia> and cygwin is not ubuntu
[06:03] <Arso> is the torrent client in ubuntu a good replacment for utorrent?
[06:03] <PirateLeChuck> hi, where does apt-get download packages to by default/
[06:03] <genii> bah
[06:03] <kbrooks> Arso, doubt it.
[06:03] <kbrooks> PirateLeChuck, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:03] <Arso> kbrooks is it possible to run utorrent on ubuntu?
[06:03] <dyrne> Arso: there is no real good replacement for utorrent. i run utorrent using wine in ubuntu. that or rtorrent which is cli only
[06:03] <Arso> kbrooks with wine or osmething?
[06:04] <kbrooks> Arso: with wine yes
[06:04] <Arso> dyrne whats cli please?
[06:04] <Arso> kbrooks and it runs perfectly?
[06:04] <dyrne> Arso: command line
[06:04] <kbrooks> !cli | Arso
[06:04] <ubotu> Arso: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:04] <dr_willis> wine utorrent.exe    - works decently well i hear.
[06:04] <Arso> ahh , i see.
[06:04] <Arso> great. i'll work on that then.
[06:04] <kbrooks> Arso: *I* havent tried it
[06:04] <gordonjcp> Ubuntu has bittorrent support built in
[06:04] <gordonjcp> it works, and works well
[06:04] <Arso> and for codecs, will i have to work a lot on that? for running high def mkv's and stuff?
[06:04] <dyrne> Arso: some utorrent like apps would be deluge maybe or ktorrent both of those are going to hog more resources but are better than AZ imo
[06:05] <dr_willis> i perfer ktorrent myself.
[06:05] <Moduliz0r> Does uTorrent run well under Wine?
[06:05] <Arso> i see
[06:05] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  seems to work  :)
[06:05] <Moduliz0r> cool
[06:05] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  at least the older versions did.
[06:05] <Falstius> ikonia: sorry, I just ate my first homegrown tomato of the summer and lost all track of what you were talking about ;)
[06:05] <Moduliz0r> uTorrent has a good webUI
[06:05] <gordonjcp> Falstius: congrats
[06:05] <ikonia> Falstius yummy, no problem
[06:06] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  not sure thats in the latest release.. not sure if that feature works with wine either. ;)
[06:06] <stefg> Moduliz0r: works, but wine puts some overhead on top, so it's no 'micro'
[06:06] <Arso> "and for codecs, will i have to work a lot on that? for running high def mkv's and stuff?"
[06:06] <stuart_> aw i can't chown my 2nd HD to my username, because it's write only
[06:06] <Moduliz0r> Its not a super-low end machine, it wouldnt have a problem
[06:06] <dr_willis> !w32codecs
[06:06] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:06] <stuart_> read only*. how'd i remove the readonly
[06:06] <Arso> thank you.
[06:06] <dr_willis> stuart_,  make a directyory on the drive. chown That directory.. let the user write in there.
[06:06] <Moduliz0r> Is there any other good IRC servers I can get other than ircd-hybrid? (that I can get via apt-get)?
[06:07] <dr_willis> stuart_,  unless you are refering to ntfs drives...
[06:07] <stuart_> ntfs drive it is
[06:07] <Falstius> has anyone used ext3cow with ubuntu?  does it work, is it stable?
[06:07] <frogzoo> stefg: wine has no overhead - it is an api, not an emulator
[06:07] <dr_willis> stuart_,  then you mount it properly.
[06:07] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[06:07] <stuart_> i just figured out how to mount it, now i gotta access it. in root i can.. but as user, i can't
[06:07] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:07] <dr_willis> !find ntfs-config
[06:07] <ubotu> Found: ntfs-config
[06:07] <dr_willis> !info ntfs-config
[06:07] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[06:08] <dyrne> stuart_: well it is easy to do read only for all users but write will require the above
[06:08] <stefg> frogzoo: i didn't say it's an emulator, i just stated te wine-libs will add to the size of uTorrent in memory
[06:08] <ttols> ntfs-3g needs fuse
[06:08] <stuart_> dyrne, how'd i do read only for all users first? need my mp3's
[06:08] <zuzuzzzip> ntfs-3g works fine here!
[06:08] <dyrne> stuart_: lazy way might be sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /media/whatever
[06:08] <Moduliz0r> how could I play a WAV or MP3 through the PC speaker?
[06:08] <dr_willis> i tend to just install ntfs-config, runit, check the box's then.. hmm.. reboot. :) heh..
[06:09] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  ick!
[06:09] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  seen that done like 15+ yrs ago.... badly
[06:09] <frogzoo> stefg: no more so tha the windows apis would
[06:09] <Moduliz0r> :P
[06:09] <stuart_> dyrne, do i need to do it every time i reboot
[06:09] <Moduliz0r> It will sound awful I know
[06:09] <Moduliz0r> its not a song
[06:09] <Moduliz0r> Merely a sound effect
[06:09] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  back when they had real speakers.. not these little coinsized buzzers
[06:09] <Moduliz0r> to annoy whoever comes near it
[06:09] <Moduliz0r> yeah it is a real speaker
[06:09] <aricz> \o/
[06:09] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  the 'beep' command can do different beeps.
[06:09] <Moduliz0r> its an older machine
[06:10] <PirateLeChuck> kbrooks, thank yuo
[06:10] <dr_willis> i got my fileserver set where it beeps a little tune when it is done booting.
[06:10] <dvs01> are there any window managers that have beryl's scale effect, where all windows from all desktops are tiled onto the screen for easy selection? i need something like this without the use of opengl, so i can more easily use it via vnc/nx
[06:10] <Moduliz0r> Hey thats an idea
[06:10] <Moduliz0r> because its a headless machine
[06:10] <berent> how do i know which device is my cd/dvd rom is
[06:10] <Moduliz0r> and it takes a while to boot
[06:10] <Kilroo> Anyone have experience with the Crossmeta file system drivers?
[06:10] <stefg> frogzoo: you don't usually have a win-api running on a Linux-machine :-). Except you're using a non-native app ... so you add /overhead/ (stop splitting hairs now, ok?)
[06:10] <Moduliz0r> dr_willis how did you do it?
[06:10] <berent> !cdrecord
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrecord - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <zuzuzzzip> dvs01: google on iCube
[06:10] <dyrne> !ntfs | stuart_ see this link
[06:10] <ubotu> stuart_ see this link: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:11] <dvs01> zuzuzzzip: thanks
[06:11] <dyrne> stuart_: you just need to edit /etc/fstab so that it automounts correcly at boot
[06:11] <zaggynl> what would cause mplayer's hotkeys to stop working after ~2 seconds of playing anything
[06:11] <Moduliz0r> aah 10KHz beep! :(
[06:11] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  installed the beep command, and put some commands in the rc.local
[06:11] <Kilroo> !crossmeta
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossmeta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <Moduliz0r> k
[06:11] <dr_willis> !info beep
[06:11] <ubotu> beep: advanced pc-speaker beeper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.2-19 (feisty), package size 21 kB, installed size 108 kB
[06:11] <dyrne> stuart_: so a gksu gedit /etc/fstab and add line umask=000,defaults to the options column for it and save
[06:12] <Moduliz0r> where is rc.local?
[06:12] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  in /etc/ with all the rest of the config type files. :)
[06:12] <berent> what does this mean ?? wodim: Drive does not support TAO recording.
[06:12] <dyrne> stuart_: again thats not really kosher, normally i think they like to use sep dir and file umask settings but its how i do it
[06:12] <Moduliz0r> oke
[06:12] <dr_willis> where else. :P
[06:12] <scarnia> Hi to all, i'm trying to build an app to control the ati fan, Where could I contact with one of the developers of the ati open source driver?
[06:12] <royel> berent: Track At Once
[06:13] <raf256> Hello
[06:13] <berent> royel : waht should i use for that?
[06:13] <kbrooks> OK
[06:13] <kbrooks> I need help
[06:13] <raf256> did ubuntu fucked up phpmyadmin?
[06:13] <frogzoo> stefg: many windows apps under wine run faster than they do natively on windows
[06:13] <raf256> in example by dening loging on root?
[06:13] <dr_willis> raf256,  id say no...
[06:13] <raf256> *on mysql root
[06:13] <kbrooks> !language | raf256
[06:13] <ubotu> raf256: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:13] <royel> berent: I couldnt say..
[06:13] <dr_willis> but the lack of a root login/password - may require you to do some things differnetly.
[06:14] <raf256> dr_willis: MYSQL root
[06:14] <kbrooks> I need help please.
[06:14] <raf256> not unix root
[06:14] <kbrooks> I need help please.
[06:14] <kbrooks> I need help please.
[06:14] <raf256> !ohmy | kbrooks
[06:14] <ubotu> kbrooks: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:14] <novato_br> how can I get the install syslinux on Pendrive?
[06:14] <kbrooks> raf256, i didnt swear
[06:14] <dr_willis> :)
[06:14] <dr_willis> !ask
[06:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:14] <raf256> !repeat | kbrooks
[06:14] <ubotu> kbrooks: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:14] <kbrooks> raf256, dont abuse the bot please
[06:14] <novato_br> is it only type: "syslinux.exe -s <pendrive path>"?
[06:15] <osxdude|lap> !patience
[06:15] <angelica> hi
[06:15] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:15] <naderman> hey everybody, I've tried to run aptitude dist-upgrade, but all I got was "E: The package index files are corrupted. No Filename: field for package tzdata"
[06:15] <naderman> It appears to be related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/105179
[06:15] <kbrooks> http://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do?
[06:15] <naderman> But there doesn't appear to be any workaround or other information online on how to solve it
[06:15] <kbrooks> to fix it.
[06:15] <angelica> i need to configure a wireless network between my pc and my notebook, i've no wi-fi routers, is this possible?
[06:16] <zuzuzzzip> set both wifi devices to ad-hoc
[06:16] <Arso> back.
[06:16] <v3ctor> angelica: yes
[06:16] <berent> !tao
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tao - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <Arso> hey guys, do u recommend any pc to pc only voip app?
[06:16] <Arso> that works under windows too.,
[06:17] <gerro> !resize
[06:17] <angelica> v3ctor is there any tutorial?
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <kbrooks> http://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do to fix it? I want to be able to see that site
[06:17] <zuzuzzzip> !windows
[06:17] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:17] <cyberphaz> !vmware
[06:17] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:17] <raf256> !php
[06:17] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:17] <OldPink> Anyone, please help me this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3045063#post3045063 - in grave need of help.
[06:18] <cyberphaz> !virtualizers
[06:18] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[06:18] <kbrooks> http://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do to fix it? I want to be able to see that site
[06:18] <berent> -tao  -sao -dao   -raw -raw96p  -raw96r  -raw16  : out of these which one should i select for writing to disc. how do i know them
[06:18] <v3ctor> angelica: looking
[06:18] <kbrooks> http://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do to fix it? I want to be able to see that site
[06:18] <kbrooks> http://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do to fix it? I want to be able to see that site
[06:18] <kbrooks> http://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do to fix it? I want to be able to see that site
[06:18] <kbrooks> http://fswh.ath.cx doesnt work for me on my LAN. What can I do to fix it? I want to be able to see that site
[06:18] <royel> !ops
[06:18] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:18] <cyberphaz> !virtualbox
[06:18] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[06:18] <angelica> v3ctor: tnx
[06:18] <gerro> Oldpink: oooh I have one of those except its not mobile its in an old desktop computer very interesting
[06:18] <PriceChild> grrrrr
[06:18] <Arso> guys
[06:18] <angelica> i wasn't able to find one
[06:18] <Arso> pc to pc voip please/
[06:18] <OldPink> gerro, any help with the last post?
[06:18] <osxdude|lap> Kbrooks: you are saying... oh...OWNED!
[06:18] <raf256> owned
[06:18] <Hobbsee> that guy is seriously a moron...
[06:18] <dr_willis> Spooned!
[06:18] <dr_willis> :)
[06:18] <v3ctor> angelica: http://www.atlink.it/~conti/articles/creating-an-ad-hoc-wireless-connection-with-linux/
[06:18] <royel> Hobbsee: lol, you know him well!
[06:19] <stuart_> i read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions and edited my /etc/fstab, and mount -a
[06:19] <stuart_> but i still can't access the HD
[06:19] <radioman_> 2
[06:19] <radioman_> hey
[06:19] <Hobbsee> royel: i've seen him on the bantracker, but i'd not seen him in person for a while
[06:19] <Moduliz0r> Acorn RiscPC = better than modern day PCs :P
[06:19] <raf256> bantracker? lol
[06:19] <royel> Hobbsee: Have you seen me ? ;)
[06:19] <Falstius> how can I create a file with an ext3 filesystem in it that is sparse (ie, the filesystem is 50GB but the file only uses as much space as the data contained)?
[06:20] <angelica> v3ctor: tnx :)
[06:20] <Hobbsee> royel: i dont remember everyone, but it ahs a nice search
[06:20] <royel> Hobbsee: anyhow, thank you
[06:20] <Hobbsee> no problem
[06:22] <berent> -tao  -sao -dao   -raw -raw96p  -raw96r  -raw16  : out of these which one should i select for writing to disc. how do i know them
[06:22] <noldon> anyone know if there is a flashplayer 9 plugin for x86_x64 firefox
[06:23] <dusk> dfs
[06:23] <Falstius> berent: it depends, what are you writing to the disk?
[06:23] <stefg> !flash54 | noldon
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash54 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <stefg> !flash64 | noldon
[06:23] <ubotu> noldon: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:23] <berent> Falstius : iso image burning
[06:23] <Moduliz0r> Would it be better to run a DHCP server on my router or my Ubuntu Server machine?
[06:24] <stefg> berent: if burning a premade iso (like an ubuntu download) you take dao (disk at once)
[06:24] <Falstius> berent: dao should work.  Or just cdrecord file.iso /dev/cdrom   the defaults should be fine.  Or even easier, right click the iso and click "write to disk"
[06:24] <raf256> !flash128
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash128 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <Falstius> berent: (I over simplified the format of cdrecord, but the point is the defaults are fine)
[06:25] <berent> Falstius : if that would work i wouldnt have asked this q
[06:25] <stefg> !botabuse | raf256
[06:25] <ubotu> raf256: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:25] <berent> stefg : i am burning a puppy linux iso
[06:25] <berent> stefg : but nothing seems to be burning at all.
[06:25] <raf256> are angry ops good?
[06:25] <zuzuzzzip> is there any way to watch youtube and such on amd64 (not gnash)
[06:26] <raf256> zuzuzzzip: run 32bit firefox?
[06:26] <zuzuzzzip> mm
[06:26] <PriceChild> raf256, I suggest you don't find out
[06:26] <zuzuzzzip> have to uninstall old one first?
[06:26] <raf256> PriceChild: orly
[06:26] <HEP85> zuzuzzzip: you have to install firefox 32 bit version
[06:26] <raf256> zuzuzzzip: nope
[06:26] <stefg> !k3b | berent
[06:26] <ubotu> berent: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[06:26] <Zambezi> I need my Ubuntu Dapper to act as a router and firewall for one computer. Iptables and Shorewall takes to long time to learn. Is there another option?
[06:26] <zuzuzzzip> and once i tried skype 32bit but i f'ed up my libs :D
[06:26] <zuzuzzzip> i'll give it a shot then :)
[06:27] <Falstius> berent: are you using a cd-rw?
[06:27] <viden> Anyone know what the error exec: 1: setuidgid: not found means ?
[06:27] <berent> i am using dvd/cd +/- rw
[06:27] <zuzuzzzip> but seems nobody can help me out with my main problem, my 2 audio channels go through 1
[06:27] <stefg> Zambezi: http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/5/28/ could be helpful
[06:28] <berent> i am using dvd/cd +/- rw drive and a cd-r
[06:28] <Falstius> berent: a DVD or CD?  A CD-RW needs to be erased before writing an ISO.  a DVD-RW doesn't.
[06:28] <berent> Falstius : its cd-r .
[06:28] <berent> no write
[06:28] <v3ctor> viden: are you running seomthing from a mounted filesystem that has the nosuid option?
[06:28] <Falstius> berent: I thought puppy was the one that went on a cd-rw and could add to itself.  What is the actual error?
[06:29] <berent> Falstius : wodim: Drive does not support RAW recording.
[06:29] <berent> wodim: Illegal write mode for this drive.
[06:29] <Zambezi> stefg, Do you know if it require X-server?
[06:30] <stefg> Zambezi: read through it, there's several alternatives mentioned
[06:31] <Zambezi> stefg, Will do after some hours sleeping. Thanks.
[06:31] <aricz> humm.. why do I get '???????' as directories when I've mounted dvd's ? :)
[06:31] <berent> Falstius: there is nothing from puppy's side. but yeah i also read it adds to itself. but i am unable to write anything at all.
[06:32] <aymeric_> join #ubuntu-fr
[06:32] <DeNewbie> hi, when i play video files (mpeg,wmv) i only have the voice, and the screen is blue. is there any solution to that?
[06:32] <berent> !k3b
[06:32] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[06:32] <gerro> DeNewbie: get the codecs for it
[06:32] <gerro> DeNewbie: what media player you using?
[06:33] <v3ctor> !codecs
[06:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:33] <DeNewbie> gerro: totem/mplayer what is the codec? i've already installed gstreamer-ffmpeg and w32codecs
[06:34] <gerro> DeNewbie: install all the gstreamer except ones that end in -doc or -dbg, and as for mplayer I don't know how to get it fully functional
[06:34] <DeNewbie> gerro : i have already done that,
[06:34] <gerro> DeNewbie: did you miss any?
[06:34] <DeNewbie> v3ctor me too with mplayer, seems like the problem is from somewhere else
[06:34] <gerro> DeNewbie: grab em all not just one it wants
[06:35] <gerro> DeNewbie: usually when my media player fails I fall back to vlc
[06:35] <DeNewbie> gerro: no, i have installed even the docs lol
[06:35] <gerro> DeNewbie: its 10.0 gstreamer you installed right? those older ones might mess it up
[06:35] <DeNewbie> gerro: there is no difference between vlc,totem or mplayer the screen is blue in all of them :(
[06:36] <gerro> DeNewbie: blue!? it should be blank
[06:36] <gerro> DeNewbie: some sort of custom theme you got going?
[06:36] <DeNewbie> gerro: i installed 10.0 , no it's blue!
[06:36] <stuart_> hm, i just did mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb1, but after that, i fdisk -l and it still says my hdb1 = HPFS/NTFS file system
[06:36] <stuart_> did i format it correctly
[06:36] <DeNewbie> gerro: no, my window manager is wmii2 a very basic one
[06:36] <gerro> DeNewbie: I think the default is a black blankness, perhaps the video is playing but its blue.. is there supposed to be a picture?
[06:37] <gerro> DeNewbie: I have never tried that before do you have link to their website?
[06:38] <gerro> DeNewbie: nvm I found it, looks nice. I usually use icewm for light weight ones
[06:38] <DeNewbie> gerro: wmii2? it's great it's the vim of window managers it's in the repository
[06:38] <gerro> DeNewbie: vim!? eep! *hides underneath desk*
[06:39] <Moduliz0r> What port does swat listen on?
[06:39] <olie> Hi all. I use to use Ubuntu. Upon then, I would use dhcpcd as a dhcp client. Obviously, Ubuntu uses a dhcp client (since I am talking to you now! ;) ), but I dont think it is dhcpcd. What is it? Thx.
[06:39] <DeNewbie> i like blue color but not everywhere in my mpeg players :(
[06:39] <olie> I use to use gentoo, sorry...
[06:39] <novato_br> why cant make disk pendrive ubuntu install?
[06:39] <gerro> DeNewbie: I prefer green or teal
[06:39] <v3ctor> DeNewbie: do you have mplayer installed?
[06:39] <rokj> hi
[06:39] <gerro> DeNewbie: does it work okay if you login to another window manager session?
[06:40] <DeNewbie> gerro: i like vim, after a while it becomes one of the most valuable things you have :D
[06:40] <v3ctor> DeNewbie: agreed
[06:40] <rokj> is it possible to install gusty with some kind of update tool?
[06:40] <novato_br> cosair is sux
[06:40] <Moduliz0r> rokj: If you want a Live install of Linux on your pen drive try DamnSmallLinux
[06:40] <novato_br> don't buy cosair
[06:40] <novato_br> cosair pendrives are sux
[06:40] <Moduliz0r> why
[06:40] <DeNewbie> olie: it's dhcp i think, you should install the package
[06:40] <novato_br> why ???
[06:41] <novato_br> because it is
[06:41] <rokj> Moduliz0r: i already have feisty fawn installed
[06:41] <rokj> Moduliz0r: just want to "upgrade"
[06:41] <DeNewbie> v3ctor: vlc, mplayer , totem all of them are installed
[06:41] <stuart_> what's ubuntu's bset mp3 player
[06:41] <Moduliz0r> rokj: on the pendrive? ok sorry
[06:41] <stuart_> XMMS? cos apt-get = 80 megs on taht
[06:41] <v3ctor> DeNewbie: try `mplayer -vo x11 <full path to video file>
[06:41] <fartoc> How do I use beryl instead of compiz? Do I remove compiz apps and install beryl ones? What else?
[06:41] <Moduliz0r> What port does the swat program listen on by default?
[06:41] <Tixer> I'm running FF, and I suddenly lost my GUI over VNC
[06:41] <Tixer> how do I restore it?
[06:41] <rokj> Moduliz0r: try netstat -luntp
[06:42] <Moduliz0r> k
[06:42] <stefg> !xgl | fartoc
[06:42] <ubotu> fartoc: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:42] <rapflap> How do i find out what kinda harddrive i got, and is it possible to configure it wrong so its set to scsi even if its not ?
[06:42] <gerro> Tixer: restart it?..
[06:42] <Tixer> I've tried restarting it
[06:42] <Tixer> I only have SSH access right now
[06:42] <DeNewbie> v3ctor, hmmm it works now !! thanks, but what caused this?
[06:42] <gerro> rapflap: check /etc/fstab and man hdparm
[06:42] <stefg> !uuid | rapflap
[06:42] <ubotu> rapflap: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:42] <fartoc> stefg, thank you
[06:43] <herumor> i have a question
[06:43] <v3ctor> you will need to change the default video output setting for your player
[06:43] <v3ctor> not sure what causes it
[06:43] <herumor> how to run bitchx-gtk ?
[06:43] <Tixer> how can I find out what's wrong with the GUI?\
[06:43] <DeNewbie> v3ctor: how can i do that?
[06:43] <olie> DeNewbie: But there must be a dhcp client running already, since I got an IP adress from the dhcp server!
[06:43] <Tixer> I don't know if X11 is dead, or if VNC is dead, or w/e
[06:43] <rokj> rapflap: it is; if if "finds" module more apropriate than "usual" drive; it can then somehow emulate it with scsi
[06:44] <herumor> please
[06:44] <v3ctor> in Totem you can change the output in ~/.gnome2/totem_config
[06:44] <stuart_> how do i check what version of ubuntu i'm using
[06:44] <herumor> tell me how to run nitchX-gtk
[06:44] <stefg> !ersion
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ersion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <stefg> !version
[06:44] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[06:44] <herumor> tell me how to run BitchX-gtk *
[06:44] <rapflap> ./dev/sda1: UUID="fea2d19f-54a9-487d-b5aa-61e11f8d7511" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"  <-- this is the output, but i dont think i got scsi in this laptop, so im confused
[06:44] <stuart_> thanks
[06:45] <rokj> rapflap: dmesg | grep scsi
[06:45] <berent> atlast I burnt it.
[06:45] <stuart_> holy crap i'm using warty
[06:45] <berent> the catch was to burn it as root!!!!!!
[06:45] <herumor> -__-"
[06:45] <olie> Hi All. What is the default dhcp client on Ubuntu? Thx.
[06:45] <rokj> rapflap: it probably cannot find "apropriate" driver so it is using "emulation"
[06:45] <stefg> rapflap: please read the link... libata! everything (well, nearly) is handeled through the scsi subsystem now
[06:45] <rapflap> rojk: is this a problem
[06:46] <DeNewbie> olie: that's set when ubuntu is booting, if you want to get the ip agaiin you need to use dhcp
[06:46] <berent> well i do like the trumpet sound of k3b after writing :-)
[06:46] <DeNewbie> dhclient i mean
[06:46] <DeNewbie> :)
[06:46] <rokj> rapflap: not really, but is not soo quick as it could be
[06:47] <stuart_> how can i upgrade my warty to fiesty or gutsy
[06:47] <stefg> stuart_: reinstall
[06:47] <berent> thnks all for helping
[06:47] <v3ctor> DeNewbie: also looks like there is a gstreamer-properties tool you can use
[06:47] <stefg> stuart_: no way
[06:47] <berent> brb after reboot
[06:48] <sivik> i reinstalled grub after a windows reinstall, but now grub loads, but there isn't any options for loading an os, it just goes to grub>
[06:48] <stuart_> so i have to d/l the latest distro? or can i somehow net-inst with warty
[06:48] <olie> DeNewbie: No it is not set up when ubuntu is booting. It sets up after I choose the essid name only. It means a dhcp client is running in the background. Plus I can change essid and get a new Ip any time!
[06:48] <ViljasenMatti> If you have your /home dir on separate partition, I _think_ it's possible to just reinstall the root and mount the /home again
[06:48] <stuart_> warty CD, even.
[06:48] <stephan> quit
[06:48] <stefg> sivik, running from Live CD ow?
[06:48] <sivik> stefg: yes
[06:48] <olie> DeNewbie: if I understand well... :)
[06:48] <Moduliz0r> is /etc/inetd.conf the right file to config the network "super daemon"?
[06:48] <Some_Person> Where can I get Totem visualizations?
[06:48] <stefg> sivik: open a term and enter: sudo grub
[06:49] <rokj> rapflap: if you are not using laptop for some 3D or some stuff that uses disk more than just for browsing/mail/chat .. its not a problem
[06:49] <sivik> stefg: there
[06:49] <sivik> stefg: grub>
[06:49] <stefg> sivik: type 'find /boot/grub/stage1
[06:49] <Kilroo> Anyone have experience with the Crossmeta file system drivers?
[06:49] <sivik> ok
[06:49] <ublender> OT: Hey, does anyone have any definitive proof/opinion on which is better, aac or mp3?
[06:49] <stefg> sivik: what turns up?
[06:50] <sivik> hd0,2
[06:50] <Moduliz0r> does ubuntu use xinetd or inetd.conf?
[06:50] <ublender> Or, is there an off topic channel?
[06:50] <ublender> lol
[06:50] <stefg> sivik: so enter 'root (hd0,2)'
[06:50] <stefg> sivik: then 'setup (hd0)'
[06:50] <aricz> what's a good tool in linux for ripping audio-cd's and converting them to FLAC ?
[06:50] <sivik> stefg: it says done
[06:51] <stefg> sivik type quit, and try to reboot
[06:51] <v3ctor> aricz: konqueror
[06:51] <sivik> thanks
[06:51] <aricz> v3ctor : thank you :)
[06:51] <DeNewbie> v3ctor: thanks i'll look for that[D
[06:51] <Some_Person> Where can I get Totem visualizations?
[06:51] <jay_> anyone know what banshee package is needed for it to transcode ogg to mp3 for ipod?
[06:51] <DeNewbie> olie: well, i always use dhclient to renew my ip
[06:51] <Falstius> aricz: soundjuicer is installed by default
[06:52] <Skrypt> Other than fdisk and GNOME Partition Editor, what can I use to edit partitions in Linux?
[06:52] <IntuitiveNipple> parted
[06:52] <Skrypt> How do I access that?
[06:52] <qrt> Skrypt: cfdisk
[06:53] <qrt> Skrypt: It's cli just like fdisk but ncurses (i think that was the name) so it's easy to use
[06:53] <XtypeWriter74> hi , i have small laptop and would like to flip my view of desktop 90 degrees, and also have mouse adjusted to that, is it possible and how
[06:53] <erUSUL> Skrypt: cfdisk parted qparted gparted
[06:53] <Skrypt> cfdisk won't run, apparently.
[06:53] <XtypeWriter74> so i  would be lookin at it like a book
[06:54] <kditty> a friend of mine recently installed feisty, he made 2gig available for hd space and 158gb for swap. is there a way to fix this without a reinstall or is reinstall the best option?
[06:55] <tck-afk> anyone else find that the skype 2.x does not work with ubuntu and previously did ?
[06:55] <stefg> kditty: you can try to correct this with gPsrted running from the Live CD... but a reinstall will be quicker
[06:55] <jay_> anyone know what banshee package is needed for it to transcode ogg to mp3 for ipod?
[06:55] <Some_Person> Where can I get Totem visualizations?
[06:55] <ThanatosDrive> Hey guys
[06:55] <qrt> jay_: Does it have to be banshee?
[06:55] <stuart_> what do i need to add into my sources.list then if i'm using warty
[06:55] <ThanatosDrive> How can I get Ubuntu to recognize my printer?
[06:55] <kditty> thanks stefg
[06:55] <jay_> yes i like banshee better :)
[06:55] <qrt> jay_: You can use a program called soundconvert or soundconverter for that but I don't know anything about banshee
[06:56] <CheesyMonkey> !cups | ThanatosDrive
[06:56] <ubotu> ThanatosDrive: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:56] <stuart_> can i just put later distros sources.list?
[06:56] <qrt> jay_: And I'm sure you already know that it's a bad idea to transcode right? :)
[06:56] <jay_> ipod dont support ogg ;)
[06:56] <stefg> stuart_: forget that... reinstall feisty
[06:56] <ViljasenMatti> kditty, stefg, when I booted with Ubuntu Live CD, it used swap, so it's not possible to do that with Ubu live-cd, use gparted live-cd
[06:56] <stuart_> stefg, don't happen to have an empty cd-rom :(
[06:57] <stuart_> cd.. i mean
[06:57] <aricz> v3ctor : konqueror, a file manager?
[06:57] <qrt> jay_: Yeah I know but my experience says it's more convenient to just download the albums in mp3 instead
[06:57] <qrt> Easier, faster, better quality
[06:57] <W9ZEB-Lars> where did Feisty hide the Gnome Configuration Tool?
[06:57] <stefg> ViljasenMatti: oh, yes, that's a catch. you'll have to diable swap with sudo swapoff -a
[06:57] <aricz> v3ctor : where's the audio-cd ripper and converter to FLAC ? :)
[06:57] <ViljasenMatti> stefg, thanks for the tip :)
[06:57] <lozzy> W9ZEB-Lars: gconf-editor ?
[06:57] <v3ctor> aricz: it's part of the filemanager
[06:58] <ThanatosDrive> CheesyMonkey: The driver is only available for SuSE, Red Hat, and Mandrake Linux. I see no driver support for Ubuntu/Debian. (for my printer)
[06:58] <W9ZEB-Lars> lozzy: I guess?  I used to be under Apps-->System Tools    but I don't see anything useful there
[06:58] <Tixer> oh shit.
[06:58] <smins> i have breezy installed, and the feisty CD in my cdrom drive, how can I manually start the feisty installation script from the fiesty cd in the cdrom drive?
[06:58] <Tixer> I've lost my HDD's
[06:58] <lozzy> W9ZEB-Lars: if you right click the menu, you can edit it to include it.
[06:58] <Tixer> Why has Ubuntu suddenly stopped detecting one of my HDDs?
[06:58] <lozzy> I guess it scared some people off :)
[06:58] <W9ZEB-Lars> lozzy: alrighty.  or, launching it from the terminal worked.  Thanks.
[06:59] <aricz> how do I uninstall konqueror again?
[06:59] <stefg> stuart_: whatever effort you put in it now, will be useless. get a CD, that's the only realistic option you have
[06:59] <qrt> Tixer, does it show when you do fdisk -l (i think that was the command, no?)
[06:59] <gourdin> anyone trying to close the flash update bug ?
[06:59] <berent> if at all an iso image has to be burnt into a cd , what should appear in cd . iso-image or all the files inside it like vmlinuz initr etc
[07:00] <CheesyMonkey> ThanatosDrive, You can convert rpm to deb using Alien :) Althought it could screw up
[07:00] <Falstius> aricz: you could also just use soundjuicer which is already installed and won't pull in 50mb of dependencies.
[07:00] <tck-afk> godddd tribe 3 takes ages to install
[07:00] <stuart_> stefg, kay then i'm downloading 7.04 now.. but what do i use to burn it to CD later
[07:00] <ThanatosDrive> CheesyMonkey: Which is rpm?
[07:00] <Skrypt> Tribes 3?!
[07:00] <berent> my puppylinux cd is not booting at all :-((
[07:00] <Skrypt> Tribes : Vengeance?
[07:00] <Falstius> berent: did you burn the .iso as a file instead of an image?
[07:00] <stefg> !install | stuart_ , see one of the trick methods to install
[07:00] <ubotu> stuart_ , see one of the trick methods to install: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[07:01] <aricz> Falstius : hehe yeah, that was what I thought about.. thought konqueror was some huge insane cd-audio ripping util.. but it's a damn file util.. :)
[07:01] <XtypeWriter74> the command is xrandr
[07:01] <Tixer> qrt: yeah, it shows
[07:01] <berent> Falstius : I dont know but now i have 8 files in cd-rom - vmlinuz initrd.gz isolinux.bin etc etc
[07:01] <tck-afk> Skrypt, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-3/
[07:02] <CheesyMonkey> ThanatosDrive, Id take red hat :)
[07:02] <Falstius> berent: that looks about right
[07:02] <adrian> how it's possible that i can't be able to install lirc on Feisty but the system type a 1 when I press the appropiate key in the remote???
[07:02] <Tixer> why is my drive not mounting?
[07:02] <ThanatosDrive> CheesyMonkey: Can I find Alien in Synaptic, or Add/Remove?
[07:02] <berent> Falstius : but it doesn't boot from cd.
[07:02] <Falstius> aricz: just go to soundjuicer preferences and select "CD Quality, Lossless" for output format.
[07:02] <qrt> ThanatosDrive: Try and see?
[07:02] <CheesyMonkey> ThanatosDrive, Synaptic....im not promising that it will work, have you checked the forums?
[07:02] <stefg> berent: Bios set up right?
[07:02] <Skrypt> tck-afk: I thought you meant Tribes 3 the video game (ie. Tribes: Vengeance)
[07:03] <CheesyMonkey> ThanatosDrive, Id search the forums with your printer make/model
[07:03] <ThanatosDrive> qrt: Good point.
[07:03] <berent> stefg : yes
[07:03] <ThanatosDrive> CheesyMonkey: Yeah I'm on it. Thanks for your help!
[07:03] <goofy> im trying to install kismet and i keep gettin the error:  FATAL: No 'listen' config line defined for the Kismet UI server Kismet exiting.
[07:03] <aricz> Falstius : yup, thanks for the tip:)
[07:03] <CheesyMonkey> ThanatosDrive, If not you can try alien :)
[07:03] <berent> stefg : it is looking there first but not acting . is there anything from root verify that is happening as i burnt as root
[07:03] <royel> berent: Have you tried to see if any other "bootable" disc works?
[07:04] <Tixer> I have a drive that isn;t mounting. How do I get it to mount?
[07:04] <quaal> Disk /dev/sdg: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes
[07:04] <quaal> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24792 cylinders
[07:04] <quaal> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:04] <quaal> Disk /dev/sdg doesn't contain a valid partition table
[07:04] <quaal> why does this happen all of a sudden
[07:04] <quaal> just 2 seconds ago it was working fine
[07:04] <berent> i dont have any other right now
[07:04] <stefg> berent: no idea. sometimes cdrw are troublesome as bootable  on older drives, or the image was broken already... i don't know
[07:04] <Falstius> berent: you can compare the md5sums of the .iso and disk.  If they're the same, then it is probably your bios or a bad .iso.
[07:05] <Some_Person> can i make the email button on my keyboard launch thunderbird instead of evolution?
[07:05] <CheesyMonkey> ThanatosDrive, Ive just read the alien homepage, and id try every other way before using it
[07:05] <smins> which is the script in the fiesty installation CD that starts the fiesty installation?
[07:05] <quaal> Some_Person, i would hope so
[07:05] <berent> !md5
[07:05] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:05] <stefg> !keytouch | Some_Person
[07:05] <ubotu> Some_Person: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[07:06] <Some_Person> thank you
[07:06] <royel> Tixer: sudo mount -t <type> /dev/xxx# /mount/location
[07:06] <Tixer> what do you mean type
[07:06] <royel> Tixer: what filesystem is on the drive you are trying to mount
[07:07] <Tixer> NTFS
[07:07] <royel> Tixer: then replece <type> with ntfs
[07:07] <stuart_> stefg, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux , do i still haev to burn what I'm downloading to a CD or can i just copy the distro straight away into the dir and install
[07:08] <Tixer> mount: mount point /media/disk does not exist
[07:08] <royel> Tixer: sudo mkdir /media/disk
[07:08] <MajorPayne> Tixer: You need to mount it to a directory that already exists.
[07:08] <adrian> how it's possible that i can't be able to install lirc on Feisty but the system type a 1 when I press the appropiate key in the remote???
[07:08] <stefg> stuart_: you still need a downloaded .iso. you just get around needing to burn it to a CD
[07:09] <Tixer> Omgwtfhax:/media$ cd disk
[07:09] <Tixer> -bash: cd: disk: Permission denied
[07:09] <Some_Person> stefg: that "keyboard shortcuts" doesnt help me
[07:09] <Some_Person> stefg: i want to change what it launches, not what you hit to launch it
[07:09] <royel> MajorPayne: I think you mean, the mount point must exists..
[07:09] <Tixer> what's full access for all users in chmod?
[07:09] <MajorPayne> royel: Yes.  The mount point is a directory.
[07:10] <stuart_> stefg, that's what i was wondering. since i don't have an empty CD right now, can i just use the downloaded fresh .iso?
[07:10] <stuart_> as in I dno't need to burn the iso, then re-copy to linux and install?
[07:10] <ViljasenMatti> adrian, I think the receiver is already supported by kernel... IMO
[07:10] <royel> Tixer: 777
[07:10] <stefg> stuart_: exyctly what i'm trying to tell you
[07:10] <Tixer> kthx
[07:10] <aricz> what does this mean from soundjuice: [17181240.708000]  hdc: write_intr: wrong transfer direction!
[07:10] <aricz> soundjuicer..
[07:11] <adrian> but the applications tan implements lirc would detect it?
[07:11] <Tixer> Omgwtfhax:/media$ sudo chmod 777 /media/disk
[07:11] <Tixer> chmod: changing permissions of `/media/disk': Read-only file system
[07:11] <ddelony> Tixer: what kind of disc?
[07:11] <ViljasenMatti> I just got interested... Anyone else using GPRS for internet connection? ;)
[07:11] <MajorPayne> Tixer: By default ntfs mousts is read only.
[07:11] <phlegm> Hey all. Anybody know how to permanently change the size of the "save as" dialogue box. It's way too small and I always have to manually make it bigger.
[07:11] <stefg> !ntfs-3g | Tixer
[07:11] <ubotu> Tixer: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:12] <Tixer> I have that
[07:12] <bigmichi> hey =) how i can change the theme of compiz fusion?
[07:12] <Tixer> the drive has worked fine for the past 3 months
[07:12] <royel> Tixer: what changed?
[07:12] <stefg> Tixer: bout you mounted with -t ntfs , not -t ntfs-3g
[07:12] <ThanatosDrive> How does one install a tar.gz? (In this case, Foomatic)
[07:12] <facecoos> OK I messed up bigtime
[07:12] <Tixer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3045966#post3045966
[07:12] <CheesyMonkey> bigmichi, Right click the icon and choose emerald?
[07:12] <facecoos> I managed to put 'rm *' as root in /etc/ is there anyway to get stuff back?
[07:12] <ddelony> ThanatosDrive "tar -xvf foo.tar"
[07:13] <genii> facecoos No
[07:13] <aricz> facecoos, hohohohohohOHOHOHOHO
[07:13] <Pici> ThanatosDrive: I think foomatic is in the repos, you shouldnt have to install from sorce.
[07:13] <ddelony> Actually "tar -xvzf foo.tar"
[07:13] <facecoos> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
[07:13] <Pici> !ohmy | facecoos
[07:13] <ubotu> facecoos: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:13] <CheesyMonkey> ThanatosDrive, Pici I thought it was installed by default :)
[07:13] <royel> facecoos: nope, gone
[07:13] <ddelony> File deletion in the command line is forever. Sorry.
[07:14] <PriceChild> facecoos, I suggest reinstall
[07:14] <ViljasenMatti> facecoos, I have done the same once... I feel pity...
[07:14] <facecoos> aw manb
[07:14] <ThanatosDrive> CheesyMonkey: Nope. I see it in the Add/Remove and it's unchecked. Installing now.
[07:14] <aricz> so there's nothing like in dos.. uh, undelete
[07:14] <CheesyMonkey> ThanatosDrive, Okay =D
[07:14] <Cyber_Stalker> hmm
[07:14] <Cyber_Stalker> especially as root
[07:14] <facecoos> well there was nothing I cant replace, it will just take time
[07:14] <genii> facecoos: "with great power comes great responsibility"
[07:14] <stefg> !backup | facecoos
[07:14] <ddelony> No. *nix filesystems don't allow for undeletion
[07:14] <ubotu> facecoos: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:14] <ViljasenMatti> genii, that's so true
[07:14] <aricz> why is that? :)
[07:14] <facecoos> I made a pipe that went to hell
[07:15] <ddelony> facecoos: Think before you type.
[07:15] <facecoos> was not supposed to be like that
[07:15] <w8tah> hi folks -- i know there is a replacement for NDISWRAPPER for broadcom wireless cards (4306) but i cant remember it and im not finding it in google / forums - -can someone point me in the right directoin
[07:15] <stefg> facecoos: deleting /etc is like killing the rgistry in win... happy reinstall
[07:15] <viden> Everyone, i need some help since it appears daemontools has killed my ubuntu.  I am right now on the live cd because the machine powers off during the boot process.  I have my original hdd mounted as /media/disk-1 and i need to remove the app and its starter in the init.d file ... can i get some help ?
[07:15] <Cyber_Stalker> is there any way of boosting wireless strength? cause mine is sitting on about 1% or 2% average
[07:15] <stuart_> when i mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb1, is it supposed to be instant, because fdisk -l isn't showing ext3
[07:15] <Falstius> facecoos: atleast it was /etc instead of /home
[07:16] <Tixer> @Omgwtfhax:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/disk
[07:16] <Tixer> fusermount: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[07:16] <Tixer> FUSE mount point creation failed
[07:16] <Tixer> Unmounting /dev/sdb1 ()
[07:16] <ViljasenMatti> w8tah, bcm43xx?
[07:16] <royel> Tixer: sudo umount /media/disk   first
[07:16] <Falstius> stuart_: what fdisk thinks the filesystem is and the real filesystem are unrelated.
[07:16] <w8tah> ViljasenMatti: yes
[07:16] <Sivik> stepf: that didn't work
[07:16] <ViljasenMatti> w8tah, BTW do you use WPA/1/2/PSK?
[07:16] <w8tah> ViljasenMatti: it was like bcm cutter or something -- i just cant find the docs
[07:16] <w8tah> ViljasenMatti: no
[07:17] <w8tah> (not that i know of)
[07:17] <stefg> Sivik: what happened
[07:17] <ViljasenMatti> w8tah, sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:17] <stefg> !pm Sivik
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pm sivik - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <stefg> !pm | Sivik
[07:17] <ubotu> Sivik: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[07:17] <ViljasenMatti> w8tah, I'm having problems with that, just thought to try :)
[07:17] <w8tah> ok
[07:17] <Sivik> did u see my pm stefg
[07:18] <stefg> Sivik: no,
[07:18] <viden> can someone help me please ?
[07:18] <Sivik> thats weird, it may be the program i'm running
[07:18] <swmiller6> What is the best photo printing software for linux?
[07:18] <Sivik> xchat doesn't want to work so i'm having to use gaim
[07:18] <stefg> Sivik: so what happened
[07:18] <Sivik> grub>
[07:18] <HEP85> w00t! I finally managed to install flash into my 64 bit firefox
[07:19] <ddelony> swmiller6: I'd take your photos to a professional photo printer.
[07:19] <Sivik> HEP85: oh really?
[07:19] <w8tah> ViljasenMatti: im getting an error from the install process
[07:19] <leirede> ola
[07:19] <ViljasenMatti> w8tah, what kind of?
[07:19] <stefg> Sivik: hmm... grub still doesn't see his menu.lst
[07:19] <HEP85> Sivik: with nspluginwrapper
[07:19] <ddelony> Consumer printers are nowhere near as good as professionals.
[07:19] <Sivik> HEP85: nice
[07:19] <w8tah> Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by bcm43xx-fwcutter.
[07:19] <w8tah> This file has an unknown MD5sum 0c5ffe204a083fcdf623aa47acfefcbd.
[07:19] <azslande> Hello, I am having a problem getting my sound to work. It will come out of my onboard card, but not my other soundcard, can anyone help?
[07:19] <leirede> hello how are you hep85??
[07:19] <sixfour> under screen resolution preferences, it only lists 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.  Any idea why it won't pick up 1280x768, I tried adding it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarting but it still is not listed.
[07:19] <Sivik> stefg: does it have to do with the fact that i have my boot on a seperate partition?
[07:19] <HEP85> leirede: hi. I'm fine. thx
[07:20] <swmiller6> ddelony: thats not going to work
[07:20] <stuart_> okay a noob question. how'd i check how much hd space is still available
[07:20] <ViljasenMatti> w8tah, what command is giving you that error? sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf?
[07:20] <Sivik> stuart_: df -l
[07:20] <stuart_> thanks
[07:20] <Sivik> yucky for ndiswrapper
[07:20] <Sivik> ViljasenMatti: have u tried the bcm43xx firmware
[07:20] <Tixer> yay! my drive works now
[07:20] <w8tah> no the apt-get install  bcm fwcutter
[07:20] <Tixer> success!
[07:20] <Falstius> stuart_: df -h is easier to read
[07:20] <w8tah> sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:20] <w8tah> specifically
[07:20] <Sivik> stefg: so what am i doing wrong?
[07:21] <stefg> Sivik: no, actually the find command should turn up the right one. so your boot is hd0,2 or /dev/sda3 , right?
[07:21] <dr_willis> stuart_,  try            df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[07:21] <Sivik> yes
[07:21] <stuart_> k found
[07:21] <ViljasenMatti> Sivik, I have tried various files for firmware extracting, now I'm testing different driver versions with ndiswrapper to get WPA-AUTO-PSK work
[07:21] <w8tah> ViljasenMatti: i think whats hapepning is that the installer is going to fetch the firmware and its an old link in the deb package -- and its failing
[07:21] <anakin_> How do you install FiSH on ubuntu?
[07:21] <sixfour> under screen resolution preferences, it only lists 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.  Any idea why it won't pick up 1280x768, I tried adding it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarting but it still is not listed.
[07:21] <leirede> hello paul
[07:22] <Otacon22> wich is the name of the daemon of xscreensaver?
[07:22] <leirede> how are you?
[07:22] <ViljasenMatti> OK, that's cruel...
[07:22] <swmiller6> stuart_: Menu>Accessiors>Disk analyzer
[07:22] <stefg> Sivik: wait... we should have looked for /grub/stage1 , not /boot/grub/stage1
[07:22] <ThanatosDrive> How do I open a .ppd file with Foomatic?
[07:22] <stefg> Sivik: so once again: terminal, sudo grub
[07:22] <`paul> how do you install those compile headers? i mean whats the package name?
[07:22] <ViljasenMatti> w8tah, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerFerrari3400 and download the driver from there, that forks
[07:22] <ViljasenMatti> works
[07:22] <JRsup1> can anyone tell me what logs I should check if my system keeps locking up. (Or am I screwed because it probably locks before it can write the logs)
[07:23] <Sivik> stefg: what do i need to type to initate the command
[07:23] <Sivik> i at grub>
[07:23] <w8tah> VOK
[07:23] <Pici> `paul: linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:23] <FFForever> can linux get spyware (or a form of it...), and if it can what could it get access 2?, my key log?
[07:23] <stefg> Sivik: if you are at the grub prompt type find /grub/stage1
[07:23] <osmosis> is there any way to open windows .HLP files on linux ?
[07:23] <swmiller6> What programs do you use to print your photos?
[07:23] <Sivik> ok
[07:23] <car_watt> hi all I need program for DNS report,
[07:24] <Sivik> stefg: same place, now what
[07:24] <osxdude|lap> .ppd: PostScript Printer definition file specification (Adobe Acrobat v4)
[07:24] <CheesyMonkey> FFForever, Ummmm I would like to believe there isnt any for linux
[07:24] <POVaddct> JRsup1: if there is a kernel panic, you won't see it when working in X window. does the freeze also happen when you are on the text console?
[07:24] <car_watt> I used dnsstuff but we need to pay for use that
[07:24] <Sivik> car_watt: u can use dnsstuff up to 3 times a day for a given domain
[07:24] <ViljasenMatti> FFForever, If you ever manage to get one, you seriously have to install it first, and that isn't going to happen accidentally
[07:24] <ThanatosDrive> FFForever: It probably exists. Try to surf smart.
[07:24] <`paul> thanks @Pici
[07:24] <stefg> Sivik: root (hd0,2) , then setup (hd0)
[07:24] <Sivik> car_watt: you could use whois or dig or
[07:24] <sixfour> under screen resolution preferences, it only lists 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.  Any idea why it won't pick up 1280x768, I tried adding it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarting but it still is not listed.
[07:25] <JRsup1> POVaddct: it's a whole system lockup.  X freezes, and my SSH connections stop
[07:25] <FFForever> ThanatosDrive, there is no such thing as surf smart with me :D
[07:25] <bullgard4> Using the 'Create_Launcher' dialog I created a panel applet. It works all right. What is the filename of this Launcher?
[07:25] <Pici> Sivik, car_watt: http://www.iptools.com/ is free and has almost the same tools as dnstuff
[07:25] <fevel> does evolution have a rss reader??
[07:25] <fevel> does evolution have a rss reader???
[07:25] <POVaddct> JRsup1: i mean, if it is a kernel panic, you only see it when the machine is on the text console
[07:25] <car_watt> thx a lot Pici
[07:25] <car_watt> :D
[07:25] <fevel> oops...posted twice...sorry
[07:25] <HEP85> sixfour: did you try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"? it configures xorg.conf automatically. there is also a page to select resolutions
[07:25] <Sivik> so whats different this time than the last stefg
[07:26] <jhonatan> qual e o seu mo,e
[07:26] <POVaddct> JRsup1: does it lock up randomly, or when you are doing a specific thing?
[07:26] <stuart_> would xubuntu be better for me since i only have a p667 and 200 ram
[07:26] <JRsup1> POVaddct: not sure about local (ctrl+F1) console...but pretty sure it locks too.  I can't do ctrl+F1 once locked.  NOTHING works, no mouse, kbd, numlock light, etc
[07:26] <CheesyMonkey> stuart_, Id say definately yes
[07:26] <HEP85> *well, rather interactively than automatically
[07:26] <stefg> Sivik: grub now looks for /grub/menu.lst , not /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:26] <Sivik> ok
[07:26] <JRsup1> POVaddct: random...but often while loading updates or connected to it by ssh
[07:26] <royel> fevel: I believe there is a plugin for that
[07:26] <stuart_> any major differences other than eye candy
[07:26] <POVaddct> JRsup1: i mean switching to text console _before_ the lockup happens
[07:27] <Sivik> stefg: so this is right now: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30459/
[07:27] <stuart_> 200mb into ubuntu d/l.. i found xubuntu. bad timing.
[07:27] <angelica> how to view dns servers that are currently being used?
[07:27] <w8tah> ViljasenMatti: hate to be a pain but it looks like the site listed in that howto is now dead as well
[07:27] <samwize> stuart_: yes, i have 128 ram and opted for xubuntu
[07:27] <stefg> Sivik: you can run these commands when the machine leaves you at the prompt when failing to boot
[07:27] <ThanatosDrive> stuart_: It's switching from GNOME to Xfce4. There's a huge difference. (Well there was for me.)
[07:27] <w8tah> im gettting a marketing page
[07:27] <sixfour> HEP85: the screen resolutions preferences page doesn't give me any other options that the ones i listed. I'll try the reconfigure util
[07:27] <Cyber_Stalker> !nvidia
[07:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:27] <samwize> stuart_: you need about 256 ram to install regular ubuntu
[07:27] <stuart_> ThanatosDrive, is that it? because i used xfce before and actually like it.
[07:27] <JRsup1> POVaddct: have not tried to switch before...sometimes it does it during the boot procedure.
[07:27] <Sivik> thats because gnome eats ram
[07:27] <stefg> Sivik: arrgh... still wrong
[07:28] <ThanatosDrive> stuart: Well Xubuntu is lightweight not just in terms of desktop.
[07:28] <ddelony> I have no trouble with GNOME at all.
[07:28] <Sivik> its bulky
[07:28] <JRsup1> POVaddct: Sometimes I can't even get that far
[07:28] <POVaddct> JRsup1: did you already run memtest86?
[07:28] <stuart_> hm okay dammit i'll cancel ubuntu
[07:28] <samwize> if you install xubuntu alternate, you may run into a problem configuring anthy
[07:28] <Sivik> stefg: now what
[07:28] <samwize> but it can be bypassed
[07:28] <ThanatosDrive> stuart_: You could always just install Ubuntu normally and then getting Xfce4.
[07:28] <ViljasenMatti> w8tah, I used it today myself!
[07:28] <stuart_> and re-download xubuntu. i can still install only with the .iso without a CD right?
[07:28] <JRsup1> POVaddct: Yesterday...all night and day.  7 total passes on memtest from the 6.06 disk
[07:28] <viden> How do i configure what loads at startup on my box... something daemontools did is causing my machine to shutoff at bootup
[07:29] <w8tah> hummmm -- ok -- its not giving it to me --
[07:29] <w8tah> i have the bcmwl5.sys file on my windows partition
[07:29] <Sivik> stefg: what else do we need to try?
[07:29] <samwize> stuart_: use ImgBurn to put the .iso into a disc
[07:29] <marivaga> hola
[07:29] <POVaddct> JRsup1: i suppose it is either faulty ram or something overheating. maybe the cpu fan or the cooler is not working?
[07:29] <taime1> i enabled the restricted driver for my nvidia card and reconfigured x... but when i try to run glxgears, i get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:29] <taime1> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[07:30] <Sivik> stefg: u still alive?
[07:30] <stuart_> samwize, i was thinking of using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux this method with the xubuntu iso
[07:30] <stefg> Sivik: can you chroot  to the installed system ?
[07:30] <taime1> why do i get that error?
[07:30] <stuart_> it's possible, right?
[07:30] <POVaddct> JRsup1: and you think it happens more often if you make use of the network card?
[07:30] <CheesyMonkey> taime1, You probably need to uncomment/add the Load "glx" linue in xorg
[07:30] <Sivik> how would i do that?
[07:30] <viden> How do i configure what loads at startup on my box... something daemontools did is causing my machine to shutoff at bootup
[07:31] <stefg> Sivik: where's your system installed?
[07:31] <JRsup1> POVaddct: I thought about overheating...but both CPU fans are running.  I've had the system open on a table recently and have noticed no major increase in heat from anything (using an IR thermometer to check it)
[07:31] <samwize> stuart_: those should work
[07:31] <bullgard4> How to use the program Tracker via Nautilus? I do not understand the section 'Tracker And Nautilus Search' in /usr/share/doc/tracker-search-tool/README.gz.
[07:31] <angelica> how to view dns servers that are currently being used?
[07:31] <ViljasenMatti> w8tah, I can download that...
[07:31] <POVaddct> JRsup1: which network card / driver is it?
[07:31] <JRsup1> POVaddct: Possibly, but I've tried an offboard NIC too w/ no luck, and sometimes it locks during ubuntu startup
[07:31] <Sivik> stefg: sda2
[07:31] <ViljasenMatti> w8tah,  OK, I give you another link
[07:32] <JRsup1> POVaddct: before nic activation
[07:32] <stefg> Sivik: but you have boot on sda3 ?
[07:32] <Sivik> stefg: yes
[07:32] <ViljasenMatti> w8tah, http://www.wildpackets.com/support/hardware/brcm_driver
[07:32] <POVaddct> JRsup1: which version of ubuntu? feisty?
[07:32] <viden> How do i configure what loads at startup on my box... something daemontools did is causing my machine to shutoff at bootup
[07:32] <JRsup1> POVaddct: 6.10 edgy
[07:32] <Sivik> viden: quit asking the same question, either ppl don't know or don't want to help u
[07:32] <ViljasenMatti> w8tah, that has a beta driver, at least it installs OK with ndiswrapper, but is yet to be tested by me...
[07:32] <w8tah> cool - it turnd out i got it from my windows install
[07:32] <farski> if I am in my Edit User Settings page, and I have the password field, how can I make it so the form can be submitted without a password and not have it update teh DB to a blank password?
[07:32] <JRsup1> POVaddct: 6.06 does it too...7.04 wouldn't load for me
[07:32] <w8tah> for fwcutter
[07:32] <stefg> Sivik: bad idea... that might lead to confusion /boot physically behind / (root)
[07:33] <POVaddct> JRsup1: default edgy kernel (2.6.17) or some low latency kernel?
[07:33] <samwize> has anyone else ever had problems with the xubuntu alternate install "anthy" configuration? i was able to fix it just fine but i was wondering if its supposed to be fixed with gutsy...
[07:33] <Sivik> stefg: but that way when i dual boot differnt distro, i don't lose the grub
[07:33] <ubuntu-rocks> viden - give more details
[07:33] <jorvis> I just updated to 7.04 and now my screen resolution is messed up.  It should be 1680x1050, but the left-most 200px or so are black.  The xorg.conf file timestamp hasn't changed though.  Help?
[07:33] <JRsup1> POVaddct: kept getting disk errors on 7.04.  edgy should be running the current -general kernel for SMP support
[07:33] <CheesyMonkey> jorvis, Sounds like you need to just auto adjust your monitor? Or maybe you did that
[07:34] <jorvis> did that
[07:34] <stefg> Sivik: i know what you're talking of. better to have boot at a very small sda1
[07:34] <taime1> why am i getting this error? Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:34] <taime1> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[07:34] <CheesyMonkey> taime1, You probably need to uncomment/add the Load "glx" linue in xorg
[07:34] <JRsup1> POVaddct: I'm running a Supermicro 370DLE (2x PIII 933MHz) mobo
[07:34] <taime1> thats not it
[07:34] <taime1> cheesymonkey: ive checked
[07:34] <POVaddct> JRsup1: if you are getting disk errors that is probably because of the new ide drivers (pata_*) in the feisty kernel
[07:34] <petafile>  I've got a radeon x600 mobility on a laptop with a screen with native resolution 1280x800 running ubuntu studio.  When I run it at 1200 x 800 it works but looks bad(non native resolution) and I want to run it as the correct resolution.  When I run it at 1280x800 the sides of the screen wrap, gnome panel and app windows appear on the edge of the screen on the other side etc
[07:34] <jorvis> how can I query xorg to see what resolution it's running?
[07:34] <petafile> ANy thoughts?  I'm running aiglx + beryl, but get the same isue with metacity
[07:35] <POVaddct> JRsup1: i don't know that board, i even don't know the vendor
[07:35] <stuart_> oh and btw. i have no idea why. i always have problems with kde/gnome
[07:35] <Sivik> stefg: what else can we try?
[07:35] <stuart_> must be the ram. sometimes it hangs.
[07:35] <stefg> Sivik: ha, that might even be a bios issue.. 1024 clinder limit, or non lba mode
[07:35] <JRsup1> POVaddct: Supermicro = server\
[07:35] <Sivik> stefg: i have never an issue with it until now
[07:35] <Sivik> i may end up just having to reinstall ubuntu
[07:35] <POVaddct> JRsup1: the only "smp" board i have is in my thinkpad x60s
[07:35] <furball> i've compiled a c++ code using gcc, and got an "a.out". how do i run it?
[07:36] <stefg> Sivik: waht is on sda1 now?
[07:36] <ViljasenMatti> Furax-, write ./a.out
[07:36] <POVaddct> furball: ./a.out
[07:36] <ddelony> furball: "./a,out"
[07:36] <Sivik> winblows
[07:36] <CoUdErMaNn> nos en chat para ver si empiesan a entrar
[07:36] <Sivik> english
[07:36] <stefg> Sivik: on ntfs ?
[07:36] <Sivik> stefg: yes
[07:36] <furball> thanks
[07:36] <royel> viden: look in /etc/init.d/  you should find a startup script for daemontools there
[07:37] <stuart_> and will it be possible to connect my nokia through USB to linux?
[07:37] <Dammmm> Guys howto change the Eterm font size ???
[07:37] <PriceChild> CoUdErMaNn, it?
[07:37] <JRsup1> POVaddct: SMP is just to split the load over both processors
[07:37] <POVaddct> JRsup1: i know
[07:38] <stefg> Sivik: you don't need a reinstall, i'd just strongly recommend to squeeze a 64 MB partition to the beginnig of the drive and put /boot there. But this will require some windows partitioning tool. gParted will fail
[07:38] <viden> royal:  i am not finding anything for the software there ..
[07:38] <lacunacoil> anyone know of a working repository for php5 pls?
[07:38] <PriceChild> lacunacoil, feisty?
[07:39] <viden> royel:  i am not finding anything for the software there ..
[07:39] <royel> viden: look then in /etc/
[07:39] <viden> k looking
[07:39] <outrageoush> like omigosh
[07:39] <taime1> why am i getting this error?: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:39] <taime1> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[07:39] <PriceChild> lacunacoil, wait a minute, php5 is in all the ubuntu distributions
[07:39] <ViljasenMatti> taime1, what 3D card you have?
[07:39] <taime1> nvidia geforce2
[07:39] <Cyber_Stalker> !nvidia
[07:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:39] <viden> royel: nothing there
[07:40] <taime1> i have the driver installed correctly
[07:40] <Noodlesgc> can someone help me, when i try to install the python-wxgtk2.8, it tells me libc6 is not installed, but ive reinstalled it and it still wont work
[07:40] <royel> viden: go to pm's
[07:40] <sixfour> is there a command to force /etc/X11/xorg.conf reload or do i have to restart?
[07:40] <ulisse> hello tribe!
[07:40] <jorvis> sixfour: you can CTRL+ALT+BKSP
[07:40] <sixfour> jorvis: thank you
[07:40] <taime1> okay, can someone who knows what they are doing, answer my question about the error?
[07:40] <JRsup1> POVaddct: I've tried switching to VESA video drivers from NV with no luck, changing NICs, removing all but one hard drive and my Promise RAID card.
[07:41] <demonstealer> how do i configure a wireless connection in ubuntu?
[07:41] <outrageoush> #bsd
[07:41] <outrageoush> :))
[07:41] <JRsup1> POVaddct: Is it possible to give ubuntu too much memory?  I know this used to be a problem with windows.....
[07:41] <frogzoo> !wifi | demonstealer
[07:41] <ubotu> demonstealer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:41] <ViljasenMatti> ulisse, did that mean that gutsy tribe3 is out?
[07:41] <Noodlesgc> !python-wxgtk
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python-wxgtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <w8tah> ViljasenMatti: its all working -- thank you very much!
[07:41] <Noodlesgc> !wxpython
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wxpython - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <sixfour> ahh much better, finally got ubuntu working properly on my 30" LG Flatron L3000H
[07:42] <ulisse> ViljasenMatti: nope :) I use to say "hello tribe" to the channel since the times of warty warthog :)
[07:42] <Noodlesgc> !wx
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <ddelony> !kernrl
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernrl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <ddelony> !kernel
[07:42] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:42] <Noodlesgc> !python-wx
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python-wx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <stuart-> flash card readers work with linux, right? i see that as an alternative to handphone connectivity?
[07:42] <ulisse> is anybody experiencing problem with file uploads on services like zoomr or pownce with firefox?
[07:42] <bigcx2> hey all
[07:42] <profanephobia> hey has anyone heard anything about Ubuntu Mobile lately?
[07:42] <POVaddct> JRsup1: how much RAM do you have on that board?
[07:42] <bigcx2> does anyone know how to remove the gnome splash screen from the command line????
[07:42] <ViljasenMatti> w8tah, you're welcome
[07:43] <ddelony> !splash screen
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about splash screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <JRsup1> POVaddct: 1792MB
[07:43] <lacunacoil> Pricecjhild didnt come with mine, feisty worked though, thanks!
[07:44] <ViljasenMatti> ulisse, it seems to be out, so thanks for nothing?! ;---D
[07:44] <POVaddct> JRsup1: more than enough
[07:44] <Trusch> join #ubuntu.de
[07:44] <ulisse> ViljasenMatti: U'r welcome anyway ;)
[07:44] <Cyber_Stalker> !compiz fusion
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <profanephobia> hey has anyone heard anything about Ubuntu Mobile lately?
[07:44] <Noodlesgc> !python-wx
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python-wx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <Noodlesgc> !python
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <Pici> !msgthebot
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[07:44] <Konik> i have a problem
[07:44] <JRsup1> POVaddct: I thought I saw somewhere on IRC once a mention that there is a rule of thumb for setting swap-space based on amount of available RAM
[07:45] <Konik> but...
[07:45] <Konik> i join with bash.org.pl
[07:45] <ulisse> profanephobia: I've heard the same question about two minutes ago, that's all :)
[07:45] <hjmills> JRsup1, used to be 2xRAM but with the size of RAM now that isn't so relevant
[07:45] <Konik> and i cannot see anything
[07:45] <Noodlesgc> this blows
[07:45] <profanephobia> alrighty
[07:45] <samwize> brb
[07:45] <POVaddct> JRsup1: not necessarily. nearly 2 gig of ram can do without swap, of course it depends on what you do on the machine.
[07:45] <viden> is there a way for me to tell what the last process running was before the machine crashed ?
[07:45] <jorvis> JRsup1: double ram but stop at 4gb
[07:46] <ViljasenMatti> JRsup1, I gave 2 gigs of ram and the only thing I have swap partition for is hibernation ;)
[07:46] <profanephobia> does anyone here use enlightenment because i need help on changing the desktop icons
[07:46] <jorvis> JRsup1: if you hit 4gb swap usage you've got other problems
[07:46] <profanephobia> or the icon set
[07:47] <rapflap> where d6 5 change 0y 2eyb6ard
[07:47] <`paul> while doing a ./configure i got this error : termcap support not found... what could be the problem?
[07:47] <JRsup1> Ah...there it is...I think I may have too much swap space.  I don't remember how much I have but I may have left too much space open.  My intention is to use it as a VMWare server once I get it stable and my RAID5 working
[07:47] <rapflap> 5ts n6t wery g66d n6w
[07:47] <hjmills> i have 2 gig of ram an I am using 0 swap (though I have 2 gig)
[07:47] <Pici> !locale | rapflap
[07:47] <ubotu> rapflap: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[07:47] <hjmills> rapflap, turn the numlock on your laptop off if its on...
[07:48] <viden> guys i really need help machine is hosed atm ... is there a way to tell what the last process was before my system crashes ?
[07:48] <sauvin> I installed kubuntu, and the computer automatically boots into kde. I am unable to log into it but have no trouble logging into a virtual terminal. What's wrong?
[07:48] <digital1> Is exim4 any good? I'm a Postfix users.
[07:48] <POVaddct> JRsup1: maybe the raid controller is the problem. i always hated hardware from promise.
[07:48] <ViljasenMatti> hjmills, I have the same situation
[07:48] <anthony_> hi guys, im running fiesty.. and i want to increase my resolution to 1280 1024, i tried sudo nvidia-settings and setting it from there
[07:48] <anthony_>  when i click on apply it works but even after saving the settings and restarting
[07:48] <anthony_>  it forgets everything
[07:48] <rapflap> ohh, tnx lol ;)
[07:48] <genii> viden look at /var/log/messages
[07:48] <JRsup1> POVaddct: I thought so too, but it locks up on a fresh load before installing the card
[07:48] <ViljasenMatti> rapflap, yes, numlock
[07:48] <rapflap> i didnt know numlock worked that way
[07:48] <ViljasenMatti> now you do :)
[07:48] <stefg> !fixres | anthony_
[07:48] <ubotu> anthony_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:49] <viden> genii:  looking
[07:49] <ViljasenMatti> my laptop has "disable touchpad" button, confusing if one doesn't know that :)
[07:49] <genii> viden  /var/log/messages is large, you may want only: tail /var/log/messages
[07:50] <viden> genii:  nope its just messages from nagios
[07:50] <bullgard4> angelica: resolvconf?
[07:50] <POVaddct> JRsup1: and it locks up with 6.06 too?
[07:50] <tapio> How come the Gnome Resolution Manager-thing overrides the settings in xorg.conf?
[07:51] <sauvin> I can't log into X but can log into a virtual terminal. Forgive me if I'm being rude; BitchX isn't the best of all possible irc clients :\
[07:51] <sauvin> What's wrong?
[07:51] <CheesyMonkey> sauvin, Id check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any error messages starting (EE) usually at the bottom :)
[07:51] <POVaddct> sauvin: the best of all possible irc clients is irssi.
[07:51] <stefg> sauvin: any noticable error messages?
[07:52] <POVaddct> sauvin: if you can't log into X, check if the root partition (or /home partition) is full
[07:52] <sauvin> It wont' accept a wrong pasword, but when I put in the right password, it blinks and then returns to the login screen.
[07:52] <sauvin> It's not full.
[07:52] <Sbabli> [ASK]  What's your favorite cd/dvd burning software?
[07:52] <genii> viden  There are many other logfiles there regarding applications etc. So you can do like: tail/var/log/<logname> to see the last lines of each, may or may not be helpful. The ones I would see first are  faillog, dmesg,lastlog and kern.log
[07:52] <stefg> !k3b | Sbabli
[07:52] <ubotu> Sbabli: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[07:53] <tapio> How do I set the resolition I want? The Screen Resolution tool in gnome doesn't show the best resolution..
[07:53] <viden> ill look
[07:53] <anthony_> so nvidia-settings wont work on its own?
[07:53] <CheesyMonkey> !fixres | tapio
[07:53] <ubotu> tapio: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:53] <stefg> !fixres | tapio
[07:53] <POVaddct> sauvin: then check the file .xsession-errors in your home dir
[07:53] <Some_Person> how do i change my password?
[07:53] <Sbabli> thank you. i try it now
[07:53] <sauvin> kk... another vc coming right up
[07:53] <POVaddct> Some_Person: type "passwd" in a terminal
[07:53] <aricz> Ahhh, anyone remeber what was supposed to be in "Drive Mappings" for C: in Wine ? I managed to mess it up of course..
[07:53] <sojiro22> ==
[07:53] <Some_Person> POVaddct: is there a GUI way?
[07:54] <sauvin> It says "no profile for user 'sauvin' found.
[07:54] <stefg> aricz: #winehq
[07:54] <aricz> stefg : danke
[07:54] <swmiller6> Some_Person: yes
[07:54] <dyrne> sauvin: other than an xorg setting id sudo adduser real quick and test that its not a local config issue
[07:54] <Some_Person> swmiller6: what is it?
[07:54] <swmiller6> the about me
[07:54] <sauvin> dyrne, if I understand you properly, why am I able to log into a virtual terminal, then?
[07:54] <viden> no information of use in those
[07:55] <JRsup1> POVaddct: yeah. 6.06 and 6.10.  I was about to try and install windows for the heck of it to see if it was a Linux/Hardware issue (if I can find my spare key....)
[07:55] <swmiller6> Some_Person:Menu>System>Preferences>About Me
[07:55] <dyrne> sauvin: i meant like a gnome or x config issue.
[07:55] <dyrne> sauvin: one of those pesky .files
[07:55] <viden> is there anyway to just start ubuntu with step by step ok for each process starting ?
[07:55] <Shedow> /Join #UUbuntu-br
[07:55] <Some_Person> can i make me have no password?
[07:56] <JRsup1> POVaddct: and for some reason the 7.04 disks all give up a disk error when running disk check, but when I take the same disk to my desktop they check out just fine...
[07:56] <stefg> sauvin: so X (read gdm) starts, but you can't log in to your account. what happens if you add a fresh user for testing and log in as taht?
[07:56] <Ktron> Having a problem where ubuntu off of the livecd is running at the 640x480, but I've removed all of those modes and init 1 then init 5'd... Any suggestions how/what I need to do?
[07:56] <swmiller6> Some_Person: yes
[07:56] <swmiller6> well auto login
[07:56] <sauvin> stefg, that's an idea... let me try...
[07:56] <JRsup1> POVaddct: my 6.06 and 6.10 disks check fine on the server by not the 7.04's
[07:56] <Some_Person> swmiller6: without auto login
[07:56] <swmiller6> Some_Person: not that I know of
[07:57] <Some_Person> swmiller6: oh well
[07:57] <dyrne> Ktron: the lower modes dont matter itll try em in that right to left order i believe. does grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf  say vesa?
[07:57] <genii> viden Not easily. There are some debug-compiled kernels which developers use but i would not know where to point you for that, and not sure it's such a great approach anyhow
[07:57] <dyrne> Ktron: er left to right
[07:57] <swmiller6> Some_Person: are you the only user on the machine
[07:57] <askand> Yay..ubuntu cant install graphicdrivers for my new computer..it dont find my usbwlan..and it cant even play sounds! Great..
[07:57] <Some_Person> swmiller6: no
[07:57] <dyrne> askand: i blame the manufacturer ;p
[07:58] <askand> dyrne: hp?
[07:58] <sauvin> No joy. DummyPerson who just got added as a user can also log in a virtual terminal but not into X.
[07:58] <Ktron> dyrne, Nope, i810 I think
[07:58] <askand> I guess I was just lucky to get a laptop ubuntu works on..
[07:58] <sauvin> This is a very recent install of Ubuntu. 24 hours, in fact. I think maybe I downloaded one too many packages. And so, when I get home tonight, I'll just re-install it.
[07:59] <stefg> sauvin: any beryl/compiz/xgl stuff involved?
[07:59] <sauvin> stefg, no.
[07:59] <dyrne> Ktron: you have manual on the monitor? or know the model? you can try plugging in the correct vert and horz specs in xorg.conf
[07:59] <Ktron> dyrne, It's a Dell, I'll google for them
[07:59] <viden> I am out of options here it seems .. something is shuting down the system at bootup and i have no idea how to find out what
[08:00] <dyrne> askand: what driver? nvidia should be pretty easy or intel
[08:00] <sauvin> for what it's worth, folks complaining about their computers not running ubuntu fully, I have an HP laptop with similar problems, and not just in ubuntu. Blame the manufacturers, because no linux (or any other *nix) supports my hardware fully.
[08:00] <genii> viden You may want to remove the boot option quiet and examine the scroll as it boots
[08:00] <stefg> sauvin: so gnome has just put in the divorce, it seems.... already fsck'd the drive?
[08:00] <askand> dyrne: ati :D ofcourse :(
[08:00] <viden> from the grub menu .. right ?
[08:01] <genii> viden yes
[08:01] <Ktron> dyrne, Ack, meeting, be back later, thanks for the suggestion, hopefully that helps
[08:01] <viden> k
[08:01] <dyrne> askand: i have no real ati exp sorry
[08:01] <sauvin> Oh, I seriously doubt the drive is screwed. I think a package I downloaded clobbered something in X.
[08:01] <dyrne> Ktron: good luck :)
[08:01] <askand> dyrne: but dont really care about that..thats just annoying that it says I can install this for you!" and then screws up my xorg.conf....I just want some sound
[08:01] <genii> viden ESC then edit the end of the default kernel it boots, remove the quiet option
[08:01] <askand> :(
[08:01] <stefg> sauvin: so what was it?
[08:01] <sauvin> No damned idea. I may never know, but I strongly suspect Kubuntu package download.
[08:02] <dyrne> askand: buy a chep 20 dollar nvidia. itll be enought to play most any linux game:)
[08:02] <Some_Person> so i can't have a blank password in ubuntu?
[08:02] <stefg> sauvin: try a failsafe session
[08:02] <hjmills> I think I will try here as it cant count as support but i want to talk to current users, not people trying the devel release
[08:02] <sauvin> Experience is the best teacher; I didn't know that a default intall from the livecd defaults to gnome but does include KDE, you just have to know where to click to find that option.
[08:02] <dyrne> Some_Person: you can do autologin but not a blank password at least easily i think
[08:02] <askand> dyrne: yeah...or Ill keep my completly functioning XP installation :P
[08:02] <sauvin> failsaife, that sounds cheap, easy and fast... back in a bit.
[08:02] <sayers> Hello
[08:03] <SleepingSloth> hello - I've got a problem with a driver (nvidia (installed from a .run)) not working after a reboot - I'm thinking its because the module is not being loaded - how do I get that module to load on startup?
[08:03] <sayers> I want to record my desktop, what would be a good program to do this for AMD64?
[08:03] <dyrne> SleepingSloth: dapper or feisty?
[08:03] <swmiller6> sayers: gtkrecordnydesktoip
[08:03] <SleepingSloth> dyrne: feisty
[08:04] <dyrne> sayers: istanbul i think too
[08:04] <swmiller6> sayers: gtkrecordnydesktop
[08:05] <sayers> swmiller6, gtk-recordmydesktop
[08:05] <dyrne> SleepingSloth: i seem to remember an issue with restricted drivers basically almost blacklisting nvidia but i think that was dapper
[08:05] <swmiller6> sayers: yes thats it
[08:05] <SleepingSloth> dyrne: I've got x to work more-or-less as I want it after installing the driver, but as soon as I reboot... X crashes
[08:05] <stefg> SleepingSloth: any particular reason not to use the driver from the repos?
[08:05] <dyrne> SleepingSloth: linux-restriced-modules i mean
[08:06] <dyrne> SleepingSloth: are you fully updated?
[08:06] <gerro> stefg dyrne: if the driver from repos doesn't work then you could try using the -new one but that usually screws up your system and you can't ever use the installer from site which is even newer
[08:06] <SleepingSloth> stefg: well - to come clean, its not my machine - its a mates, and he'd already installed the driver downloaded from nvidia, and changing to nvidia-glx resulted in an API mismatch
[08:06] <SleepingSloth> dyrne: yes
[08:07] <berent> all the iso image files burnt on cd are having root ownership and permissions . will it boot?
[08:07] <aguaithefreak> anybody?
[08:07] <berent> i have checked out md5 also. its' perfect
[08:07] <gerro> SleepingSloth: I tried using k7 kernel with nvidia-glx-new and everything was all screwed up complete dependency hell so I had to reinstall
[08:07] <dyrne> SleepingSloth: id try a sudo NV*.sh --uninstall and then nvidia-glx again but i dunno. i cant remember the location of the restricted-modules config in /etc
[08:07] <aguaithefreak> anyonr on feisty now
[08:07] <aguaithefreak> ?
[08:08] <gerro> aguaithefreak: most everyone, why?
[08:08] <stefg> SleepingSloth: it's a conflict between linux-restricted-manager and the nvidia *.sh installer. i'd prefer to uninstall the nvidia-.sh stuff and use the nvidia-glx-new, otherwise X will break at every kernel update
[08:08] <aguaithefreak> plz tell me the version of kernel image
[08:09] <SleepingSloth> stefg: I've uninstalled the downloaded driver and moved to nvidia-glx, but that wont work now - because of this API mismatch
[08:09] <SleepingSloth> derro: complete reinstall you mean>
[08:09] <berent> all the iso image files burnt on cd are having root ownership and permissions . will it boot? i have checked out md5 also. its' perfect . i am talking about puppy linux
[08:09] <aguaithefreak> gerro: plz tell me the version on feisty
[08:10] <ladydoor> aguaithefreak: In a terminal, do uname -a.
[08:10] <SleepingSloth> stefg: the card is fairly old, and I dont think it is supported by nvidia-glx-new - its a geforce 4 ti 4600
[08:10] <qrt> Is it possible to install a program when using the live cd?
[08:10] <reed026> aguaithefreak: think the current kernel is 2.6.2, but don't quote me ;)
[08:10] <stefg> SleepingSloth: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules linux-restricted-manager nvidia-glx.
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> qrt: yes
[08:10] <dyrne> qrt: yeah and if you decide to run the installer too the program will be installed to the HD too i think
[08:10] <aguaithefreak> ladydoor: I m on gutsy Alpha
[08:10] <SleepingSloth> stefg: let me give that a whirl - brb
[08:11] <Jack_Sparrow> qrt: But you will lose it when you power down unless you setup persistent mode to a usb or the hard drive
[08:11] <TopherHunt> Hey, can anyone tell me where I can modify boot settings? Like, how do I disable the 20-second delay that I assume is testing for network boot or whatever.
[08:11] <qrt> Jack_Sparrow: dyrne: cool, thanks
[08:11] <ladydoor> aguaithefreak: Ah, and you're asking about a different version. Nevermind, then
[08:11] <TopherHunt> I want to be able to boot under a minute.
[08:11] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know what package pyfreeze.py is in, and where I can find it on my system?
[08:12] <qrt> Jack_Sparrow: Well that's alright I just want access to all my passwords that are locked in a revelation file which I can't open in Windows. I've waited for that more almost 4 weeks now :)
[08:12] <aguaithefreak> so somebody plz tell me the feisty kernel version
[08:12] <qrt> aguaithefreak: it's very easy to find if you just google it
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> qrt: what are you trying to install to open a window file?
[08:13] <endo> I cannot seem to open up utorrent by double clicking on the tray icon anymore, wtf.
[08:13] <ASDd> CAn someone help me with my ATI card?
[08:13] <endo> just can't get the window to show up
[08:13] <ASDd> :(
[08:13] <Jack_Sparrow> aguaithefreak: cli uname -a
[08:13] <aguaithefreak> ladydoor: plz let me know yours?
[08:13] <VSpike> aguaithefreak: 2.6.20-15-generic
[08:13] <endo> and f-spot froze and I don't now how to kill it
[08:13] <ladydoor> pianoboy3333: try "apt-file search pyfreeze.py" to find out what package, and "locate pyfreeze.py" to find the file (if it's newly installed, do "sudo updatedb" first).
[08:13] <endo> just wont close
[08:13] <reed026> ASDd : can you be more specific?
[08:13] <viden> I just cant read that screen at bootup .. its way too fast.  whatever is causing my machine to poweroff at bootup is the first item ran from the startup script
[08:14] <SleepingSloth> stefg: cant find linux-restricted-manager    ?
[08:14] <ladydoor> aguaithefreak: I don't use the one you're looking for, sorry.
[08:14] <qrt> Jack_Sparrow: I'm using windows now because linux won't install on my harddrive (I've asked for help on ubuntuforums, linuxquestions, #ubuntu, #debian, no luck) and no program will open the Revelation (gnome program) file.
[08:14] <jrib> pianoboy3333: use packages.ubuntu.com to search the contents of packages
[08:14] <aguaithefreak> Jack_Sparrow: Im on gutsy so .....
[08:14] <Some_Person> Does anyone know how to have an empty/blank/no password on Ubuntu?
[08:14] <pianoboy3333> jrib: thanks
[08:14] <jrib> or apt-file like ladydoor said
[08:14] <TopherHunt> Does anyone know - is there a config file where you can tweak the boot sequence to disable options and cut down on boot time?
[08:14] <ASDd>  reed026: I tried to activate restricted drivers and got only a black screen after boot..now Im on vesa..can you help me get my drivers working?
[08:14] <Jack_Sparrow> aguaithefreak: Ok, good luck..
[08:14] <aguaithefreak> VSpike: thx
[08:14] <stefg> SleepingSloth: it's restricted-manager (no linux-)
[08:15] <MilitantPotato> Hey all
[08:15] <alexandra> frankin   hfgh
[08:15] <berent> all the iso image files burnt on cd are having root ownership and permissions(444) . will it boot? i have checked out md5 also. its' perfect . i am talking about puppy linux
[08:15] <MilitantPotato> what java package do I get to view java in firefox?
[08:15] <Viaken> I have a user I'm trying to use the Remote Desktop with. I've setup a ssh tunnel, and successfully connected to her machine. However, once the initial view loads, the screen never refreshes.
[08:15] <Viaken> Anyone have a similar issue?
[08:15] <alexandra> k
[08:15] <jrib> MilitantPotato: sun-java6-plugin
[08:15] <jrib> !java > MilitantPotato (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:15] <viden> Can anyone please help me . my system is unbootable and i need to work
[08:15] <MilitantPotato> ty jrib
[08:15] <s0nix> is it possible to mount 100gb of space (on 2 differents disk) in /home ??
[08:16] <pianoboy3333> jrib: uggg... not helping.. apt-file can't and it's not on packages.ubuntu.com...
[08:16] <stefg> !doesn'twork
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn'twork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <stefg> !doesntwork
[08:16] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:16] <jrib> pianoboy3333: what is pyfreeze.py?
[08:16] <SleepingSloth> stefg: ahah...API mismatch again
[08:16] <Viaken> !remote desktop
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <Viaken> lol
[08:16] <pianoboy3333> jrib: it's that program that freezes python packages
[08:16] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: No one can answer that...  It depends on the program on the cd.. DO you see many files on the iso or just one file.?
[08:16] <SleepingSloth> stefg: NVIDIA kernel is version 9639, but the X module has version 9631
[08:16] <viden> When i boot my machine it starts the ubuntu loading screen and then powers off
[08:16] <stefg> SleepingSloth: how did you uninstall the Nvidia-*,sh thingie ?
[08:16] <berent> Jack_Sparrow: there are many files
[08:16] <pianoboy3333> jrib: I must be calling it the wrong thing...
[08:17] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: Then I suggest you try to boot it.
[08:17] <jrib> pianoboy3333: it's not in ubuntu repos, so maybe try asking #python about it?
[08:17] <genii> qrt Looking into some fileconverter/reader now
[08:17] <SleepingSloth> stefg: Nvidia-*.sh --uninstall
[08:17] <pianoboy3333> jrib: I'm doing that too... the guy there says he's never heard of it.. I think i'm calling it the wrong thing... lol.. crap I really need this
[08:17] <stefg> SleepingSloth: yeah, taht's the right way...
[08:17] <berent> Jack_Sparrow: i tried without any error message it silently boots the second device -hard disk
[08:18] <maxagaz> can I run "sudo fsck /dev/sda2" knowing that /dev/sda2 is htf+ partition ?
[08:18] <viden> can anyone help me ?
[08:18] <maxagaz> hfs+
[08:18] <pianoboy3333> jrib: it "freezes" python scripts so that it bundles the interpreter with them so you can give it to someone who doesn't have python on their system... like py2exe for linux basically
[08:18] <jrib> !helpme | viden
[08:18] <ubotu> viden: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:18] <MilitantPotato> Whats the keyboard kungfu to open the terminal
[08:18] <viden> jrib: i have like 10 times ...
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: then it isnt a bootable iso.. at least in the form that it is now.
[08:19] <berent> Jack_Sparrow: md5sum is perfect
[08:19] <viden> jib: When i boot my machine it starts the ubuntu loading screen and then powers off
[08:19] <ladydoor> MilitantPotato: what desktop environment/window manager do you use? Ask the question again including that info. and somebody will help you out :-)
[08:19] <jrib> viden: then no one atm knows how to help you or has not seen your question.  Best to wait 15-20 minutes and ask again or try other support options
[08:19] <berent> Jack_Sparrow: but the permissions are 444 . is that a problem?
[08:19] <jrib> !support > viden (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:19] <SleepingSloth> stefg: okay - any suggestions as to what to try next?
[08:19] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: ask the people in puppy linux.. that is what you are tryint to create and install.
[08:19] <jrib> viden: does it get past grub?
[08:19] <MilitantPotato> In ubuntu using nautilus, whats the keyboard shortcut to open Terminal?
[08:19] <MilitantPotato> it is nautilus right?
[08:19] <berent> Jack_Sparrow: which channel?
[08:20] <viden> yes ... gets to the graphical ubuntu loading screen goes 1/2 way through the first bubble and then turns off
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> berent: Not Ubuntu...
[08:20] <MilitantPotato> or is that the name for the directory viewer... :S
[08:20] <Some_Person> i figured it out how to make blank/no password
[08:20] <jrib> MilitantPotato: there isn't one by default, but you can set one up in system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[08:20] <stefg> SleepingSloth: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:20] <MilitantPotato> jrib, thanks again
[08:21] <viden> jrib:  it has to be like the first or second item starting,but i dont know where to look for where the startup script is
[08:21] <jrib> viden: choose recovery mode at the grub menu and see if that loads ok
[08:21] <furball> what's linux's equaivalnt of system("cls")?
[08:21] <mirak> hi
[08:22] <viden> jrib:  it does not, and it scrolls so fast i cant see where it actually stops
[08:22] <mirak> is there a better tool to change runlevel services thant the one in Gnome ?
[08:22] <SleepingSloth> stefg: okay, same error I'm afraid...
[08:22] <mirak> not all services appears
[08:22] <drunken-wallaby> hi together. is there a iso of ubuntu 7/04 (feisty) available that includes all bug- and security fixes since this version was released? if so, where can i download such an iso? thx
[08:22] <Falstius> furball: clear screen?
[08:23] <jrib> mirak: sysv-rc-conf is nice
[08:23] <furball> yea
[08:23] <MilitantPotato> :D
[08:23] <furball> to clear the teminal
[08:23] <furball> in c++
[08:23] <Falstius> furball: 'clear'
[08:23] <viden> isnt there a file that tells ubuntu what to start in what order ?
[08:23] <EightEleven> drunken-wallaby: If it exists, then it should be possible to download it from ubuntu.com
[08:23] <stefg> SleepingSloth: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/91648-nvidia-api-mismatch-feisty.html
[08:24] <viden> !rc.local
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc.local - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <viden> !rc
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <crolle17> how is the package named for svn? there are lot of packages like esvn, websvn, kdesvn ...
[08:24] <jrib> viden: does a live cd work ok?  The manpage for update-rc.d explains how ubuntu starts stuff up atm
[08:24] <mirak> jrib: why not all services appears in gnome stuff ?
[08:24] <viden> yes i am on live cd right now
[08:24] <jrib> mirak: I don't know
[08:24] <MilitantPotato> While im here
[08:24] <ailean> can you read me? im using irssi and don't know if i've reg'd properly
[08:25] <drunken-wallaby> EightEleven thx, i just looked there and was redirected to the ordinary mirrors where only the released isos from april are available.... i remember that for dapper? minor upgrades 6.06.1 and 2 have been released...
[08:25] <angelica> how can i enable dhcp on dnsmasq?
[08:25] <MilitantPotato> has anyone gotten Beryl to work on a 580 core (X1000) ATI card?
[08:25] <jrib> ailean: yep, and you're identified
[08:25] <HEP85> ailean: can read you well
[08:25] <MilitantPotato> In ubuntu*
[08:25] <marshall> somehow the little ubuntu icon in my main menu changed to the fedora icon... how do i change it back?
[08:26] <jrib> viden: do you have any theories on why it just stopped working?  Something new you did the last time it was working ok?
[08:26] <ailean> i have a mobility radeon x1300 and can't get it to work under ubuntu.  something to do with no useable configurations
[08:26] <jrib> marshall: it might be the icon theme you are using
[08:26] <crolle17> it's called subversion
[08:26] <CheesyMonkey> marshall, If you installed an icon theme id delete distributor-logo from ./icons
[08:26] <MilitantPotato> I'd guess i'd get the same error ailean
[08:26] <ailean> i tried the reconfigure tool, but it gave a signal 11
[08:27] <MilitantPotato> :(
[08:27] <ailean> MilitantPotato: any luck with it?
[08:27] <SleepingSloth> stefg: still no joy after that fix.... :S
[08:27] <marshall> ok, thanks CheesyMonkey and jrib
[08:27] <MilitantPotato> I can't even get desktop effects to work.
[08:27] <MilitantPotato> I really, really want a 3d desktop
[08:27] <ailean> MilitantPotato: i can't even get a display
[08:27] <ailean> MilitantPotato: i'm using a text based irc client now
[08:27] <viden> jrib: i installed 2-3 things before i rebooted ... daemontools was one, but i dont think it caused the issue, i cant remember the other 2's name.  if i could just launch FF from my original hd and look at the history file i could see
[08:27] <jrib> MilitantPotato: #ubuntu-effects can help you with that
[08:28] <ViljasenMatti> MilitantPotato, tried XGL?
[08:28] <MilitantPotato> jrib, tried that, no luck last time I was in, I'll check back in later today though :)
[08:28] <MilitantPotato> Vil, no
[08:28] <ailean> i think my problem is something to do with the unusual native resolution of the screen - 1280 x 800.  Can anyone help?
[08:28] <MilitantPotato> Does XGL support newer ATI cards?
[08:28] <jrib> viden: have you mounted the partition that ubuntu is on?
[08:28] <MilitantPotato> ailean
[08:28] <ailean> MilitantPotato: the effects room is really what you want
[08:28] <ViljasenMatti> Mil, I actually don't know, but that way you can use fglrx
[08:28] <stefg> SleepingSloth: ok, i'm running ot of ideas. a quite brutal mehod would be to 'locate nvidia.ko' delete /all/ of them, then reinstall linux-restricted modules again, to restore the correct nvidia.ko
[08:28] <ViljasenMatti> !ati
[08:28] <MilitantPotato> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:29] <MilitantPotato> make sure you create a backup
[08:29] <viden> jrib:  yes its /media/disk-1
[08:29] <ailean> MilitantPotato: ok then what
[08:29] <MilitantPotato> making a mistake in that file and the GUI won't boot
[08:29] <MilitantPotato> one second ailean
[08:29] <ichahi> i'm here i'm here
[08:29] <ailean> MilitantPotato: it never did boot, so i have nothing to lose :)  it's a fresh install.
[08:29] <SleepingSloth> stefg: a dpkg-query -l | grep nvidia shows all of the relevant bits with the right variant - ie 9631
[08:30] <SleepingSloth> stefg: so I'll give your suggestion a go.... its either that or get the liveCD back out....
[08:30] <stefg> SleepingSloth: but a wrong nvidia.ko gets loaded. Thsi is a leftover from the NVIDIA*.sh install
[08:30] <jrib> viden: try taking a look at the logs in /media/disk-1/var/log
[08:31] <ViljasenMatti> MilitantPotato, are you aware that in (at least) feistys beryl packages you don't get one .sh file you'll need?
[08:31] <SleepingSloth> stefg: locate nvidia.ko returns nothing
[08:31] <MilitantPotato> Vil, I've not installed beryl
[08:31] <MilitantPotato> I tried one GUI, but the name escapes me
[08:31] <ViljasenMatti> compiz
[08:31] <MilitantPotato> yea.
[08:32] <DJ-_-> any irc servers on ubuntu?
[08:32] <MilitantPotato> That failed miserably
[08:32] <stefg> SleepingSloth: sudo updatedb && sudo locate nvidia.ko
[08:32] <MilitantPotato> ailean: i cant use postbin for some reason
[08:32] <viden> jrib:  messages and faillog show nothing
[08:32] <moyer> wow
[08:32] <MilitantPotato> In this section
[08:32] <jrib> viden: dmesg?
[08:33] <moyer> there is a massive amount of people up in here
[08:33] <mirak> jrib:  sysv-rc-conf is nice
[08:33] <MilitantPotato> Section "Screen"
[08:33] <MilitantPotato>  Identifier "Default Screen"
[08:33] <MilitantPotato> under 24
[08:33] <moyer> mirak : whats that do?
[08:33] <jrib> MilitantPotato: use pastebin.ca if http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org isn't working for you
[08:33] <MilitantPotato> ty jrib
[08:33] <MilitantPotato> its crashing firefox for some reason
[08:33] <sauvin> Booting into recovery mode didn't help me identify what could be wrong with X that it wouldn't let me log in, while at the same time I could log into a virtual terminal with zero problem.
[08:33] <mirak> moyer: it updates runlevel services
[08:34] <Krisser50> hey
[08:34] <moyer> mirak : ooo ok cool thanks.
[08:34] <viden> jrib:  nothing last thing it knew about was starting the network card
[08:34] <MilitantPotato> ailean: this is my line http://pastebin.ca/626523
[08:34] <Krisser50> can anyone help me with NXCLIENT on Ubuntu 6.06?
[08:34] <j65> hola
[08:34] <MilitantPotato> Also, make sure the refresh rates are within what your monitor can handle if it's CRT
[08:35] <jrib> viden: I don't know then, not sure how to figure out what's going on
[08:35] <sauvin> The cool thing is that ubuntu is such a QUICK critter that re-installing isn't going to be a problem. Takes about twenty minutes.
[08:35] <dk4nno> juanpablo,http://laespiral.org/recetas/1-100/receta38.html
[08:35] <Krisser50> can anyone help me? i seriously need help :(
[08:35] <viden> i am going to cry if i have to reload this machine, i just finished getting nagios to work and i have like 100 conf files i dont have the time to redo
[08:35] <MilitantPotato> installing ubuntu took over an hour :(
[08:35] <extigy> hey everyone, what is the apt command for updating the distro?
[08:35] <skunk_> hi
[08:36] <ViljasenMatti> viden get a backup of /etc
[08:36] <chamba> who knows where can i get help with Beryl?
[08:36] <sauvin> MilitantPotato, it took me about twenty minutes, and I was dawdling. YMMV.
[08:36] <dk4nno> extigy, apt-get ugrade
[08:36] <martoya> extigy: sudo apt-get update for update the repositories and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:36] <MajorPayne> extigy: "aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade"
[08:36] <extigy> hey everyone, what is the apt command for updating the distro?
[08:36] <dk4nno> extigy, apt-get upgrade
[08:36] <angelica> how can i force to rediscover the network sending new arp requests?
[08:36] <ViljasenMatti> chamba, let me hear it, i know a little...
[08:36] <angelica> i messed out with my interfaces and now "arp" returns no data
[08:36] <jrib> extigy: do you want to upgrade to a new release or just update packages?
[08:36] <dyrne> extigy: /msg ubotu upgrade
[08:36] <kupesoft> What's a good <10" ultra-portable laptop/handtop for ubuntu?
[08:36] <chamba> i installed Beryl, everything looks normal, but doesn't work
[08:37] <dmglouis> can anyone help? i just installed ubuntu in a dualboot with win2000 and now when i restart it says error loading operating system. i have to use the live cd to do anything. also i can get in the windows only if i use the super grub disk to boot into it but i have no luck with the ubuntu side of it
[08:37] <jrib> chamba: #ubuntu-effects can help you with that
[08:37] <chamba> I mean no effects no nothing
[08:37] <stefg> !beryl | chamba
[08:37] <ubotu> chamba: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:37] <MilitantPotato> chamba:  #ubuntu-effects
[08:37] <ladydoor> extigy: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:37] <viden> what is the command to view the FF profiles ?
[08:37] <neverblue> anyone know how a shell history works when you have multiple shells open ?
[08:37] <chamba> thank you, will go to that channel
[08:37] <viden> profile-manager or something
[08:37] <ladydoor> extigy: (after an apt-get update, of course)
[08:37] <txopi> hi all
[08:38] <jrib> viden: something like, it's a switch to firefox.  'man firefox' will tell you what it is exactly
[08:38] <apfel> Anyone using ubuntu with Samsung's q30 or q40?
[08:38] <txopi> i have the typicall ubuntu newby problem
[08:38] <Meyvn> MilitantPotato: I see you've become quite comfortable in here :)
[08:38] <txopi> how can i boot windows partition editing grub?
[08:38] <jrib> extigy: if you're upgrading to a new release, dist-upgrade is discouraged and update-manager is preferred
[08:38] <jrib> !upgrade > extigy (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:38] <stefg> !faq | txopi
[08:38] <ubotu> txopi: A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[08:38] <ViljasenMatti> txopi, ubuntu installer should have taken care of it already
[08:39] <RoninAwesome> I've got a problem installing ubuntu but I think it's a hardware problem
[08:39] <txopi> ubotu, i'm not so newbie in linux
[08:39] <RoninAwesome> in case anyone thinks they might be able to help
[08:39] <txopi> i have the same as other times
[08:39] <Kjellviz> hi there, it seems OSS aint working on my comp, ALSA running fine, how can i check for sure and how can i install and enable OSS ?
[08:40] <pianoboy3333> does anyone here know about changing the color of the font in the terminal in a bash script?
[08:40] <txopi> root(hd0,6) meakeactive chainloader+1
[08:40] <maxagaz> I did a "sudo fsck /dev/sda3" on my ext3 root partition, and now when I mount it from live cd, I realize there is no /bin directory, how to repare that ?
[08:40] <`4aFkA`> i have Jt-c1000 pc camera can i find drivers???
[08:40] <RoninAwesome> txopi, damn you got a lot of partions on that drive
[08:40] <txopi> /dev/sda6 has all the contents i want to load
[08:40] <jrib> pianoboy3333: google for 'bash color codes'
[08:40] <pianoboy3333> ok
[08:41] <SleepingSloth> stefg: okay... I removed all of the .ko files, removed linux-restricted-modules, reinstalled linux-restricted-modules again, and still got the same result
[08:41] <`4aFkA`> i have Jt-c1000 pc camera can i find drivers???
[08:41] <txopi> RoninAwesome: yes :-D
[08:41] <dmglouis> hello, i have a weird problem. after installing ubuntu on a dualboot with win2000, every time i restart it says: "error loading operating system". Now, i can't get into ubuntu but i can into windows but only if i use the super grub disk.
[08:41] <stefg> SleepingSloth: and nvidia-glx ?
[08:42] <quaal> does anyone know about fsck and if it can cause data loss or if something missing after it is run can be recovered ?
[08:42] <tehtechman> anyone else have probs with adobe flash hanging up firefox?  any way to remedy that?
[08:42] <neverblue> anyone know how a shell history works when you have multiple shells open ?
[08:42] <OldPink> Anyone know how to get Direct Rendering on ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x working?
[08:42] <jrib> neverblue: what shell?
[08:42] <neverblue> bash
[08:42] <viden> jrib:  i think the app that broke things was runit ...
[08:42] <SleepingSloth> stefg: sorry, my brain has gone to mush
[08:42] <stefg> SleepingSloth: you might want to investigate with google. That's a quite common error, as i found out
[08:42] <Newbie_Dude> I installed Google Picasa from Google but now I don't want it -- it's too slow and runs through Wine -- how do I uninstall it? >_<
[08:42] <W_McL> tehtechman, had similar problems too. i guess it's a problem in flash, so only adobe can do anything about it
[08:43] <Samy> Hi.
[08:43] <OldPink> Been working on this for hours now and it's getting fuck off annoying, tried god knows how many 16 page threads packed full of solutions, thousands of reboots, hundreds of X restarts, millions of guides, billions of terminal commands and no change, just a system full of crap that doesn't work.
[08:43] <neverblue> jrib, you know a thing or two about it, I have a couple of questions
[08:43] <dmglouis> hi
[08:43] <Pici> neverblue: It was my impression that bash_history gets written to when you logout.  I'm not 100% sure on that though.
[08:43] <Samy> How come Ubuntu for AMD64/x86-64 doesn't come with ccNUMA support in there by default?
[08:43] <SleepingSloth> stefg: everywhere I've looked (and I *have* look at a *lot* of forum posts etc, hasnt helped
[08:43] <tehtechman> W_McL: i guessed as much... figued id ask anyway. thanks
[08:43] <Samy> Do you guys provide a package containing a kernel with this configuration?
[08:43] <neverblue> Pici, I was looking for the ppl who are sure :)
[08:43] <SleepingSloth> stefg: I've now done the nvidia-glx too, and still got this mismatch....
[08:43] <Pici> neverblue: okay ;)
[08:44] <stefg> SleepingSloth: the ubuntu c2c problem (clueless2clueless) :-\
[08:44] <jrib> neverblue: nah, sorry, only know about some options in zsh regarding it
[08:44] <swmiller6> Oldpink: you still tring to install
[08:44] <neverblue> jrib, np :)
[08:44] <W_McL> tehtechman, sadly adobe doesn't pot much effort into flash for linux. there's not even a 64 bit version yet :(
[08:45] <Samy> Do you guys provide a package containing a kernel with NUMA support on?
[08:45] <Newbie_Dude> When I remove a program from my computer through the Synaptic Manager, does it leave little pieces of the program scattered all around my disk -- similar to Windows? >_<
[08:45] <Samy> Do you guys provide a package containing a kernel with NUMA support on?
[08:45] <HEP85> W_McL: you can install the 32 bit one using nspluginwrapper
[08:45] <dmglouis>  can anyone help? i just installed ubuntu in a dualboot with win2000 and now when i restart it says error loading operating system. i have to use the live cd to do anything. also i can get in the windows only if i use the super grub disk to boot into it but i have no luck with the ubuntu side of it
[08:45] <extigy> Hi guys, how do i install amarok?
[08:45] <SleepingSloth> stefg: ....?
[08:45] <W_McL> HEP85, i know
[08:45] <ladydoor> Newbie_Dude: try using the "purge" option instead of plain remove. It won't remove anything from your home dir, but you can do that yourself.
[08:45] <Newbie_Dude> extigy: go to add/remove and type amarok in serach :)
[08:45] <ladydoor> extigy: sudo aptitude remove --purge amarok
[08:46] <Newbie_Dude> ladydoor: so "purge picasa" ?
[08:46] <P-K> If I setup the way I want the system while in live cd and then install. Does it install my changes as well?
[08:46] <jrib> !software > extigy (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:46] <maxagaz> How to repair a root partition that has lost its /bin directory ?
[08:46] <viden> !runit
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <dmglouis> P-K: nope
[08:46] <dmglouis> P-K: its a fresh start
[08:46] <jrib> extigy: it's  sudo aptitude install amarok  to install it if you want to use aptitude, but see ubotu's message for other ways
[08:46] <axisys> there is not suppose to have a inittab file on feisty?
[08:46] <ladydoor> Newbie_Dude: I suppose. There should be an option along those lines (possible "completely remove") if you right-click the package in synaptic, if I recall...
[08:46] <Newbie_Dude> ladydoor: thanks :)
[08:47] <P-K> dmglouis: awwe crap. Ok thanks.
[08:47] <Samy> Hi. I ask again, where can I get a kernel with NUMA support built-in for AMD64 Ubuntu?
[08:47] <ladydoor> Newbie_Dude: np
[08:47] <dmglouis> P-K: np :)
[08:47] <dmglouis> can anyone help? i just installed ubuntu in a dualboot with win2000 and now when i restart it says error loading operating system. i have to use the live cd to do anything. also i can get in the windows only if i use the super grub disk to boot into it but i have no luck with the ubuntu side of it
[08:47] <Samy> God damn this channel.
[08:47] <Samy> :-P
[08:48] <extigy> it's says aptitude isn't a command?
[08:48] <familie> how can i start gdesklets when ubuntu starts?
[08:48] <jrib> axisys: not since the switch to upstart, but what do you want to do?
[08:48] <ladydoor> extigy: try apt-get then. aptitude is useful to have installed, but it's okay if you don't.
[08:48] <extigy> how do i install it?
[08:48] <MilitantPotato> I'm not understanding this java install
[08:48] <ompaul> Samy, post to the mailing list "sounder"
[08:48] <viden> jrib:  how would i find and remove runit from my startup scripts ?
[08:48] <ladydoor> extigy: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[08:48] <MilitantPotato> it says it won't work with ubuntu amd64, is that true?
[08:49] <familie> how can i start gdesklets when ubuntu starts?
[08:49] <Newbie_Dude> I'm uninstalling GAIM -- but it says I must also remove "nautilus-sendto" and "ubuntu-desktop" ... Sounds bad ???!
[08:49] <jrib> viden: is it in /etc/init.d/ ?
[08:49] <jrib> !ubuntu-desktop > Newbie_Dude (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:49] <extigy> ladydoor: i'll try that
[08:49] <W_McL> MilitantPotato, what java install?
[08:49] <jrib> !startup > familie (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:49] <jrib> MilitantPotato: sun does not provide a java plugin for amd64
[08:49] <kibib2> salut tlmd
[08:49] <Newbie_Dude> jrib: thanks man
[08:49] <BeNdITo> necesito ayuda para ubuntu
[08:50] <viden> jrib:  no there is no executable here called runit
[08:50] <ompaul> !es | BeNdITo
[08:50] <ubotu> BeNdITo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:50] <dmglouis> has anyone had a problem with dual booting?
[08:50] <jrattner1> Question: How do I set up a wiki on my webserver?
[08:50] <viden> jrib: http://smarden.org/runit/
[08:50] <jrib> viden: maybe you can chroot to /media/disk-1 and use APT to remove it
[08:50] <viden> jrib:  it was a compiled app
[08:50] <MilitantPotato> This isn't working: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[08:51] <stefg> SleepingSloth: there's a package called nvidia-kernel-common as well ... try to apt-get --purge and install that, too.
[08:51] <jrib> jrattner1: choose a wiki and install the package for it.  For example, python-moinmoin is in the repositories
[08:51] <familie> HOW CAN I START PROGRAMS WITH MY X-SERVER? startup scripts, come on dudes
[08:51] <ompaul> jrattner1, start with a terminal and do this >>>> apt-cache search wiki | more <<<< choose one from that list
[08:51] <jrib> MilitantPotato: it doesn't exist for amd64, sun doesn't provide it
[08:51] <jrattner1> ompaul, thanks
[08:51] <familie> you cant tell me you arent familiar with that!
[08:51] <MilitantPotato> Lovely :)
[08:51] <jrattner1> jrib thanks
[08:51] <jrib> familie: ubotu told you already, read your private messages
[08:51] <MilitantPotato> can I install a 32bit firefox?
[08:52] <familie> jrib: aw sorry
[08:52] <W_McL> MilitantPotato, if you use a 64 bit system the java plugin won't work. it's not yet available
[08:52] <dmglouis> has anyone had a problem with GRUB?
[08:52] <MilitantPotato> Is there a work-around in some form?
[08:52] <dmglouis> mine doesn't work
[08:52] <viden> jrib:  sudo chroot comes back with permission denied
[08:52] <ompaul> !grub > dmglouis
[08:52] <jrib> MilitantPotato: the java wiki page should have some links on how to do that.  For me, I just use blackdown java for the plugin (it's old, but it does what I need)
[08:52] <ViljasenMatti> W_McL, and that, among many other reasons, I'm using 32-bit ubu on 64-bit laptop
[08:52] <ompaul> dmglouis, check out the message from ubotu
[08:52] <jrib> viden: you did 'sudo chroot /media/disk-1'?
[08:52] <viden> yes
[08:52] <dmglouis> ompaul:thanks man
[08:52] <quaal> does anyone know about fsck and if it can cause data loss or if something missing after it is run can be recovered ?
[08:53] <SleepingSloth> stefg: yeah, I've tried that (again) - no joy there either
[08:53] <MilitantPotato> !java
[08:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:53] <angelica> how can i force to rediscover the network sending new arp requests?
[08:53] <MilitantPotato> !javawiki
[08:53] <ViljasenMatti> uh, is not sun-java6-jre also available?
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about javawiki - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <axisys> jrib: i wanted to install daemontools
[08:54] <jrib> axisys: /etc/event.d takes the place of /etc/inittab .  Let me send you some info on upstart that might help
[08:54] <jrib> !upstart > axisys (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:54] <ompaul> quaal, it can, personally in 13 years of using it I have one bad memory, and the disk it turned out was shot anyway
[08:54] <jrib> axisys: why?
[08:54] <HEP85> MilitantPotato: what about ia32-sun-java6-bin?
[08:54] <stefg> SleepingSloth: so it seems that once you used the Nvidia*-sh, your system is hosed when trying to revert to the ubuntu-way
[08:54] <jrib> ViljasenMatti: yes, it is in multiverse
[08:54] <SleepingSloth> stefg: yeah, it looks that way...
[08:54] <axisys> jrib: i want to install djbdns and start it with daemontools
[08:54] <eichi> is there someone with unichrome graphic driver here?
[08:54] <MilitantPotato> HEP, dunno man, what about it?
[08:54] <quaal> ompaul, hmm
[08:55] <SleepingSloth> stefg: I am now looking at other, more industrial solutions.... I'll let you know how I get on ;/
[08:55] <quaal> so if I have data missing from a drive i just fsck'd, it is gone forever
[08:55] <quaal> ompaul, here is my fsck http://pastebin.ca/626480
[08:55] <ompaul> quaal, pretty much, you could try a program called "the coroners tool kit"
[08:55] <txopi> i think my grub problem is not with grub, but the boot activation of the partition
[08:55] <jrib> axisys: I'm not familiar with that, but there are a few packages (including libdjbdns1) that seem to be relevant
[08:55] <ompaul> quaal, actually it is a set of them
[08:55] <quaal> ompaul, it mentions removing the ext3 journal, if I rebuild the journal could it possibly come back ?
[08:55] <txopi> thanks to the people who helped me
[08:55] <juanpablo> nplug
[08:56] <HEP85> MilitantPotato: maybe it works better. but you need firefox 32 bit then, or not?
[08:56] <axisys> jrib: yes
[08:56] <axisys> jrib: i need that for djbdns to work as well
[08:56] <MilitantPotato> That's what the wiki says HEP
[08:56] <MilitantPotato> I'm doing 32bit firefox now
[08:56] <axisys> jrib: it failed to installed since there is no /etc/inittab
[08:56] <ompaul> quaal, wait til I see the paste
[08:56] <axisys> jrib: i tried apt-get install dametools-intaller
[08:56] <quaal> ompaul, thanks
[08:56] <jrib> axisys: ah, can you pastebin the output you got?
[08:56] <axisys> and then ran that
[08:57] <quaal> gparted says the drive is now ext2
[08:57] <axisys> jrib: ok .. let me rerun it.. one sec
[08:57] <quaal> like it got demoted from ext3 to ext2
[08:57] <Some_Person> Where is Ubuntu wallpaper stored?
[08:57] <quaal> ompaul, this one *** ext3 journal has been deleted - filesystem is now ext2 only ***
[08:58] <quaal> Some_Person, can you not go into wallpapers/background and browse to it ?
[08:58] <jrib> Some_Person: /usr/share/backgrounds/ I believe but you can put your own backgrouns whereever you want
[08:58] <Some_Person> i know you can
[08:58] <Some_Person> thank you
[08:58] <tarzeau> Deep6: MAN! remember: 19:12:34 <Deep6> but now thanks to porn-get I can look like I am hacking scripts  when I am actually getting porn
[08:59] <PleegWat> Hi, I'm trying to connect to a pocketpc using bluetooth. I can find the device, but I think I need a driver that knows how to talk to it?
[08:59] <juano__> hello all
[08:59] <Arso> hey guys, if i burn the ubuntu image to a dvd , will it still work
[08:59] <Arso> or does it HAVE TO BE on a cd?
[08:59] <Arso> coz i tried burning twice on two different CDs and i keep getting some weird errors
[08:59] <Arso> tried dvd decrypter, poweriso and nero :s
[08:59] <bobgill> I'm trying to play a DVD in Totem but I get "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it." What do I need? I can play DVDs just fine in Xine, VLC, etc.
[08:59] <Adalpe> whats the best IDE to edit in?
[08:59] <gejr> is the nxclient supposed to be able to connect to the currently running X session?
[08:59] <Riaal> How do I search in a "man page"?
[09:00] <bobgill> (I just want to test Totem)
[09:00] <Some_Person> oh there are some hidden space wallpapers in there
[09:00] <jrib> Adalpe: personal prefrence
[09:00] <juano__> im having trouble with nvidia settings in xorg.conf, i installed the nvidia binary package from nvidia.com, then i can only enter GUI changing nvidia for nv in xorg, how can i restore this to use the nvidia drivers properly ?
[09:00] <gejr> Riaal: type /
[09:00] <jrib> bobgill: /
[09:00] <taime1> how do i install beryl in feisty with nvidia card?
[09:00] <Riaal> gejr, jrib, cheers
[09:00] <gerro> did someone just say something to  me?
[09:00] <jrib> bobgill: oops that was for Riaal :)
[09:00] <juano__> !nvidia
[09:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:00] <Arso> :( can anyone help me
[09:00] <gerro> Arso: I will save you!
[09:00] <Arso> gerro yay
[09:00] <Arso> gerro this always happes ;(
[09:00] <Arso> whenever i do something important
[09:00] <Arso> everything stops working
[09:00] <Arso> :@
[09:01] <jrib> !dvd > bobgill (see the private message from ubotu)
[09:01] <viden> jrib
[09:01] <ompaul> quaal, cd /lost+found
[09:01] <Sake> Hey guys, I remember when I was installing ubuntu a while ago, there was an option for the desktop or the server setup. Is that still available?
[09:01] <viden> jrib:  how do i chroot that partition ?
[09:01] <taime1> are there four packages for beryl? or just three? i thought it was beryl, beryl-manager, emerald, emerald-themes...is that correct?
[09:01] <viden> it just wont work
[09:01] <DARKGuy> hey, how can I run a program in a Windows box with RPC/RCP enabled? like psexec.exe does, entering with admin$ or something
[09:01] <ompaul> quaal, have a look in there
[09:01] <gerro> Arso: what you mean by "stops working"
[09:01] <dyrne> Sake: with alternate install cd
[09:01] <swaj> Sake, it's two different images
[09:01] <swaj> Sake, just download the one you want
[09:01] <Arso> gerro let me tell u my problem.
[09:01] <gerro> Arso: can you give me the model of your computer or its specs if you custom built it
[09:01] <Arso> sure
[09:01] <jrib> viden: you are typing 'sudo chroot /media/disk-1'?  what is the output?
[09:01] <Arso> its custom built yes, but ive been burning for a long time :s
[09:01] <Arso> it always works fine.
[09:02] <Arso> intel p43.2
[09:02] <Arso> intel d101gg
[09:02] <jrib> !enter | Arso
[09:02] <ubotu> Arso: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:02] <Sake> swaj: cool, if I want to run an in-house linux box with apache, file shares, etc.. Do I need the server install? it's only gonna be used by 4-5 people, not really for large loads. Should I just stick with the desktop version or really go for the server?
[09:02] <axisys> jrib: here is the output http://rafb.net/p/TXO8Dd22.html
[09:02] <quaal> ompaul, the lost+found of the drive or /lost+found ?
[09:02] <gerro> Arso: so the problem is with burning things?
[09:02] <viden> jrib:  ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo chroot /media/disk-1/
[09:02] <viden> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied
[09:02] <Sake> I also want to run a virtual machine with windows on it. Is that doable in the server version?
[09:02] <Arso> yes.
[09:02] <Arso> burning images. .iso
[09:03] <Arso> sigh nevermind, i am not even in the right place.
[09:03] <juano__> im having trouble with nvidia settings in xorg.conf, i installed the nvidia binary package from nvidia.com, then i can only enter GUI changing nvidia for nv in xorg, how can i restore this to use the nvidia drivers properly ?
[09:03] <gerro> Arso: and its running a type of ubuntu? what version? 7.04?
[09:03] <Arso> i just wanted to ask
[09:03] <jrib> viden: interesting... someone had this issue the other day and I never figured out what it was
[09:03] <Sake> I think ideally I'd like the desktop version without any of the applications installed, is that possible?
[09:03] <ompaul> quaal, the drives one
[09:03] <Arso> can i burn the ubuntu cd image on a dvd?
[09:03] <gerro> Arso: don't matter go ahead
[09:03] <Arso> i am on windows! trying to burn ubuntu
[09:03] <gerro> Arso: yes dvd or cd it same thing
[09:03] <DARKGuy> hey, how can I run a program in a Windows box with RPC/RCP enabled? like psexec.exe does, entering with admin$ or something
[09:03] <quaal> ompaul, this is the ls of /media/usbdisk/lost+found: #11780099  #13467649  #18513964  #18513965  #23117827  #23117828  #851970  #851985  #851989
[09:03] <swaj> Sake, either version can actually run the servers you want.  The Server version basically is the desktop version without all the "eye candy"
[09:03] <gerro> Arso: if you can't get it to burn right try using isorecorder
[09:03] <bobgill> jrib: I already have all the packages installed that it is instructing.. is it just Gstreamer is unable to playback DVDs?
[09:03] <Arso> ok, good. coz i bought 3 new cds and the burning failed for all of them
[09:03] <Arso> i used dvddecrypter, and poweriso, and nero
[09:03] <Arso> all 3 didnt work
[09:03] <Arso> lemme try isorecorder then.
[09:04] <gerro> Arso: yeah don't use those they don't work for burning isos
[09:04] <ompaul> !burn | Arso
[09:04] <ubotu> Arso: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:04] <viden> anyone else know .. if i could just chroot to that hdd then i could remove the issue
[09:04] <jrib> bobgill: it should be able to play dvd's.  You've probably done this, but make sure you close totem and open it again... maybe eject the dvd and put it back in
[09:04] <swaj> Sake, if you want to run X and stuff, stick with the desktop.  If all you're going to do is server-related stuff and you don't really need anything fancy graphically, go with the server edition
[09:04] <gerro> Arso: thunder storm here so might have power failure in a bit
[09:04] <swaj> Sake, either version can run Apache, PHP, MySQL, etc. though
[09:04] <dyrne> Sake: that is the server install bascially. its a stipped desktop install without the gui. if you install ubuntu-desktop afterwards youre going to get all the apps as its a big metapackage. you can install xserver-xorg and xfonts base and gdm and whatever windowmanger you want though to go minimal
[09:04] <Arso> wow my cd drive sounds like a ferrari now
[09:04] <Arso> 999x
[09:04] <berto-> i am having trouble with atd on a machine with users in an LDAP directory.  the at job submits fine, i can see it in the queue, and when the time comes, the job becomes busy, but never executes.  any ideas?
[09:05] <ompaul> quaal, so each of those things is a file that it thinks it found - wget your own pastebin and use lynx to read the file you lmight get some clues as to what is what
[09:05] <gerro> dyrne: how do you remove ubuntu-desktop though?
[09:05] <bobgill> jrib: nope.. just telling me I need additional plugins :(
[09:05] <Sake> dyrne: can I uninstall those apps from the desktop version or is it a bad idea (I have the desktop installed right now)
[09:05] <gerro> dyrne: it just removes the little shortcut link
[09:05] <kaare_> hmm.. can i ask hardware related questions here ?
[09:05] <Lacerta> anyone know if there's a working version of r818x wlan driver yet? I'm suffering a system crash usually within minutes after doing some intensive networking. Especially with KTorrent.
[09:05] <swaj> Sake, if you wanted to, you could.  sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg would probably get rid of most of it
[09:05] <gerro> kaare: what is your question?
[09:06] <dyrne> gerro: id google for it the short answer is to remove a common dependancy like a lib but id google for a couple packages to remove to clean it up best
[09:06] <cyberphaz> !virtualbox
[09:06] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[09:06] <cyberphaz> !virtualizers
[09:06] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[09:06] <quaal> ompaul, damn
[09:06] <ompaul> berto-, does it have a shell and whatever it wants - make it a "real"
[09:06] <cyberphaz> !vmware
[09:06] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[09:06] <kaare_> hmm.. i can't make my x1950 pro card working .. tried everything..
[09:06] <ompaul> berto-, script
[09:06] <gerro> dyrne: I had xubuntu but removed it to do icewm and not too sure everything gone and i still want to use thunar and mousepad they quite nice
[09:06] <dyrne> Sake: you can. being debian based the package management is far less likely to mangle when you mess with base install. it should be fine to remove whatever you want
[09:07] <jrib> bobgill: you have: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed?
[09:07] <astroview120mm> # Appears as TONGTYED.
[09:07] <ompaul> quaal, it is recovery - it is not easy -
[09:07] <MilitantPotato> kaare
[09:07] <Sake> cyberphaz: sweet, thanks. Any of these tried and tested?
[09:07] <kaare_> yes
[09:07] <Arso> ok, i officially hate samsung dvd burners.
[09:07] <DARKGuy> hey, how can I run a program in a Windows box with RPC/RCP enabled? like psexec.exe does, entering with admin$ or something
[09:07] <MilitantPotato> working how?
[09:07] <Lacerta> !r818x
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r818x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <gerro> jrib bobgill: and ffmpg gstreamer thing?
[09:07] <kaare_> hmm... opengl
[09:07] <Lacerta> !r8180
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r8180 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <mwe> !msgthebot | Lacerta
[09:07] <ubotu> Lacerta: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:07] <MilitantPotato> Did you install the unsupported drivers?
[09:07] <dyrne> gerro: well xfce4 itself is pretty light. you still want the gtk stuff for apps so i think youre fine. we're talking like 20 or 30 MB maybe you could save i think
[09:07] <ViljasenMatti> Arso, I hate Samsung DVD burners too. I sell those, and I also get them back after a while :/
[09:07] <kaare_> using mesa right now..
[09:08] <Arso> no wonder
[09:08] <Arso> they suck.
[09:08] <kaare_> yes..
[09:08] <bobgill> yes I just tried to apt-get install and all of them are already the newest version installed
[09:08] <Arso> and it was 50 dollars more than other burners
[09:08] <Arso> i thought its worth it
[09:08] <jrib> axisys: see if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/daemontools-installer/+bug/66615 helps
[09:08] <ompaul> !burn > Arso  (read the message from the bot)
[09:08] <gerro> DARKGuy: what are you using for the prompt? is it openssh on cygwin?
[09:08] <Deep6> tarzeau: you donky
[09:08] <Deep6> how you been?
[09:08] <Arso> !burn
[09:08] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:08] <DARKGuy> gerro: errrrr no, I have pure Linux on my PC and I need to run a program in a Windows box which has no linux stuff installed, pure Windows on it.
[09:08] <ompaul> Arso, the bot put that in a pm to you - you don't need to put that in the channel
[09:08] <Arso> thank you ompaul , but thats not what i am looking for
[09:08] <Riaal> Anyone remeber how to list "top" so that the max cpu usage is on top?
[09:08] <Arso> brb restart.
[09:09] <kaare_> searched google so many times i can't count it anymore.. no one seems to the solution!
[09:09] <HEP85> MilitantPotato: java-gcj-compat-plugin is working for me on 64 bit firefox, but it's an old java version
[09:09] <jrib> Riaal: press F
[09:09] <Riaal> jrib, thanks
[09:09] <`C> hello all
[09:09] <MilitantPotato> HEP85: I'm nearly done with 32 bit firefox+flash+java
[09:10] <MilitantPotato> using 32bit firefox won't bother me much :)
[09:10] <PleegWat> I'm trying to connect to a iPAQ pocket pc using a bluetooth connection. The dongle is working, and I'm seeing the device if I type "hcitool scan" in the terminal, but I don't seem to be able to connect
[09:10] <quaal> ompaul, installing lynx
[09:10] <HEP85> MilitantPotato: well, whatever you wish
[09:10] <DARKGuy> hey, how can I run a program in a Windows box with RPC/RCP enabled? like psexec.exe does, entering with admin$ or something
[09:10] <`C> I just got a new laptop and i know ever one can tell me what pos os came on it . an im thinking about putting ubuntu on it
[09:10] <MilitantPotato> HEP85: I'll give it a go next time I reformat :)
[09:10] <tarzeau> Deep6: fine, what about you?
[09:10] <tarzeau> Deep6: still in the us? what you doing? no more debian?
[09:11] <pilotlg747> excuse me but how can i find a bug in a program if it just starts and stops in a 10th of a second? My chat-client (Pidgin) worked normally at least some minutes ago
[09:11] <`C> its a amd 64 . should i install the 64 bit os or the 32bt one ?
[09:11] <ompaul> DARKGuy, consider Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client
[09:11] <Jack_Sparrow> `C:  Boot up the live cd and check it out
[09:11] <jrib> `C: unless you know exactly why you want amd64, you should be using 32bit
[09:11] <`C> i did , but my wifi card will not work
[09:11] <ompaul> `C,  32 bit too much pain the other way
[09:12] <martii> hi
[09:12] <ompaul> `C,  try it
[09:12] <martii> I'm looking for advice
[09:12] <ompaul> `C,  and have backups
[09:12] <qwelegen> Hello People
[09:12] <DARKGuy> ompaul: but will that run a command? I don't mean remote desktop RDP... I'm meaning a shell
[09:12] <Skrypt> I'm having a partition issue. I have 10GB of space that's unallocated. How do I add that to my current linux partition?
[09:12] <martii> do you guys know any php based forum that is secure and fast?
[09:12] <ompaul> DARKGuy, no idea,
[09:12] <martii> unline phpbb
[09:12] <martii> unlike
[09:12] <MilitantPotato> skrypt, is it right next to your linux partition?
[09:12] <`C> of vista hell no why would any one keep that
[09:12] <rainman> hi, last night  I installed 7.04 so far so good, but the sound card didn't get dedected. any advise?
[09:12] <Skrypt> MilitantPotato:  yes.
[09:12] <ViljasenMatti> `C, what wifi card you have? it's likely not 32vs64 issue
[09:12] <DARKGuy> ompaul: it's ok, thanks for trying to help ^^
[09:13] <Deep6> tarzeau: I was never an american :D
[09:13] <linux_user400354> i need help. im trying to print to a network printer being shared by a vista computer from a ubuntu computer.
[09:13] <Skrypt> In gparted, there's no option to extend partition though.
[09:13] <MilitantPotato> Gnome Partition Editor *MIGHT* work
[09:13] <`C> its a ATHEROS
[09:13] <tamale> Hi everyone, X fails to start from the feisty installer disc (even in safe graphics mode) on my rather new HP core 2 duo laptop
[09:13] <ViljasenMatti> !atheros
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atheros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <MilitantPotato> ah
[09:13] <pilotlg747> rainman: do you use also or oss
[09:13] <Skrypt> MilitantPotato: gparted = GNOME Partition Editor.
[09:13] <tarzeau> Deep6: hehe i never knew :) where from?
[09:13] <MilitantPotato> yea I read that after I typed that :)
[09:13] <Skrypt> :P
[09:13] <HEP85> Skrypt: probably you are just missing some file system tools
[09:13] <MilitantPotato> If you click your linux drive its not letting ya resize?
[09:13] <quaal> ompaul, i lynx'd my pastebin.. what am i supposed to be looking for ?
[09:14] <Skrypt> HEP85: what do I need to get?
[09:14] <`C> Atheros ar5007
[09:14] <ompaul> quaal, where it trashes files and makes new ones
[09:14] <dyrne> tamale: pretty common. use alternate install cd
[09:14] <ViljasenMatti> `C, sure you switched wifi on on your laptop front panel, or something?
[09:14] <rainman> pilotlg, not sure how to find out?
[09:14] <kaare_> if you compile your own kernel .. can that have anything to do with your graphic card ? .. if it can be detected by xorg or not ? ..
[09:14] <HEP85> Skrypt:  I don't know exactly and because you will have to extend your system partition, which you can't do while you have it booted, I suggest using the gparted livecd
[09:14] <`C> lol
[09:14] <`C> yes i did like 5 times
[09:14] <ompaul> quaal, just to / to find the numbers of the blocks you are looking at
[09:14] <ViljasenMatti> `C, don't tell me... :)
[09:15] <kaare_> or is it just xorg who's controlling what..
[09:15] <HEP85> Skrypt: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:15] <dyrne> tamale: or of course alt-ctrl-f2 login then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and choose vesa as your driver
[09:15] <tamale> dyrne: Darn.  (I would use a much stronger word).  I don't have any spare CDRs with me.. why wouldn't the most widely used disc work? :[
[09:15] <Skrypt> HEP85: I tried using the Ubuntu LiveCD with it's partition editor.
[09:15] <dyrne> tamale: then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:15] <qwelegen> To resize partition: Boot using Ubuntu Live CD and open GParted from there
[09:15] <ViljasenMatti> `C, is the output of 'iwconfig' pleasing?
[09:15] <dyrne> tamale: should be workable in livecd. i dont have much exp with it though
[09:15] <tamale> dyrne: thanks, i'll try that
[09:16] <viden> please help me chroot my internal hdd using the live cd
[09:16] <profanephobia> hey does anyone know if airsnort will work with bcm43xx
[09:16] <ViljasenMatti> `C, that is, is there any other text than no wireless extensions, or someting
[09:16] <`C> what ?
[09:16] <Riaal> I don't get the top aplication, If I want to list MEM usage first, shall I press F then N ? =S
[09:16] <plich> hello
[09:16] <HEP85> Skrypt: maybe the package "ext2resize" is missing on the livecd
[09:16] <`C> its not seeing the card at all . but im running the 64bit os
[09:16] <analfabeta> i do rm /etc/apache2 -rf and try reinstall the package, but dir apache2 doesnt create and none files... what i do?
[09:17] <jrib> Riaal: Fn<enter>
[09:17] <pilotlg747> rainman: just look under system --> settings --> audio if esd is activated (wich should be) then deactivate it
[09:17] <`C> and even in crapsta it worked like shit
[09:17] <plich> did someone use a belkin wireless usb adaptor, runing on ndiswrapper ?
[09:17] <axisys> jrib: let me give that a try
[09:17] <Riaal> jrib, is it normal for the MEM field to dissapear then?
[09:17] <`C> okay thanks ever one
[09:18] <HEP85> Skrypt: well we can guess what is the missing part on the gparted included on the ubuntu livecd and load it from the internet, or take the gparted live cd which has everything needed
[09:18] <jrib> Riaal: are you pressing captial F?
[09:18] <plich> did someone use a belkin wireless usb adaptor, runing on ndiswrapper ?
[09:18] <Riaal> jrib, stupid me, thanks a lot
[09:19] <profanephobia> no answers?
[09:19] <osmosis> is there a print to PDF driver?
[09:19] <jrib> !please > profanephobia (see the private message from ubotu)
[09:19] <jrib> osmosis: yeah, cups-pdf
[09:19] <qwelegen> Anyone know the link for 3D Graphic software Repository?
[09:19] <jrib> qwelegen: what are you looking for exactly?
[09:20] <Borin> http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2007/07/17/GR2007071700070.gif
[09:20] <ViljasenMatti> `C, tried ndiswrapper?
[09:20] <jrib> !offtopic | Borin
[09:20] <ubotu> Borin: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:20] <tamale> dyrne: even vesa didn't work
[09:20] <tamale> dyrne: what the heck
[09:20] <jenda> QUIZ :) The Ubuntu Quiz is back! There's an extra special one in about an hour in #ubuntu-trivia. The prize is 5 Ubuntu case badges!
[09:20] <viden> Can anyone please help me chrooting my internal hdd from the live cd ?
[09:21] <juano__> hello all, im having trouble with nvidia drivers, i cant seem to install them correctly , i have to change back to nv in xorg.conf to get a GUI
[09:21] <lipocsi> hey anyone know that search engine where u get a search assistant?
[09:21] <qwelegen> I need the source.list update?
[09:21] <jrib> osmosis: make sure you read /usr/share/doc/cups-pdf/README.Debian to know how to use it though
[09:21] <lipocsi> i know its unrelated but ehh
[09:21] <dyrne> tamale: does x crash or just a black screen?
[09:21] <tamale> dyrne: x crashes
[09:21] <jrib> qwelegen: what do you mean by "3d Graphic software"?
[09:21] <tamale> dyrne: i'm tryin to read the crash report to see if there is anything useful in here
[09:21] <juano__> does anyone know how to properly install the nvidia drivers for 7.04 ??
[09:21] <jrib> linxeh: chacha.com...
[09:22] <jrib> argh he left
[09:22] <viden> Can anyone please help me chrooting my internal hdd from the live cd ?
[09:22] <billy> hello folks, trying to mount the floppy drive, but getting "/dev/fd0 invalid block device" error message! Any pointers? Using Edgy! Thanks
[09:22] <osmosis> jrib: will do, thanks.
[09:22] <dyrne> tamale: this an intel or ati or nvidia or what?
[09:22] <jrib> !nvidia > juano__ (see the private message from ubotu)
[09:22] <axisys> jrib: unfortunately that did not help http://rafb.net/p/k9xxCx39.html
[09:22] <tamale> dyrne: ati x1600 pro
[09:22] <axisys> jrib: this is how my file looks like http://rafb.net/p/UkUSxE82.html
[09:22] <juano__> jrib: yes ive been there
[09:22] <bullgard4> English help wanted: What is the English name of the Gnome menu item System > Administration > 'System Check' or what is the correct second word?
[09:22] <dyrne> tamale: im sorry i have little exp with ati. either the open drivers or closed
[09:22] <juano__> jrib: but im having trouble
[09:22] <jrib> juano__: are you using system -> administration -> restricted drivers manager
[09:23] <Jowi> axisys, I had a similar problem while trying to remove a package recently.
[09:23] <dyrne> tamale: they are as a rule problematic. nvidia is as a rule flawless for regular use
[09:23] <tamale> dyrne: are any drivers loaded for the live cd start??
[09:23] <juano__> jrib: Failed to run /usr/bin/restricted-manager as user root.
[09:23] <axisys> Jowi: :-(
[09:23] <juano__> jrib: im getting that when i try to run that
[09:23] <dyrne> !ati | tamale
[09:23] <ubotu> tamale: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:23] <Jowi> axisys, I have a solution (I hope) wait
[09:23] <jrib> axisys: well you might try just doing 'touch /etc/inittab'.  I would comment on that bug or create a new one too btw
[09:23] <dyrne> tamale: that might help. you can sudo apt-get install whatever package you need in livecd. sorry not more help
[09:24] <linxeh> jrib: you what ?
[09:24] <jrib> linxeh: wrong name, sorry
[09:24] <linxeh> oh i see
[09:24] <linxeh> sorry - tab complete after the guy quit :)
[09:24] <viden> Can anyone please help me chrooting my internal hdd from the live cd ?
[09:24] <tamale> dyrne: I'm nowhere near having networking or anything like that.. i'm just booting the install disc.. heh
[09:25] <plich_> :/
[09:25] <jrib> juano__: what do you get when you do 'gksu restricted-manager' in a terminal?
[09:25] <dyrne> tamale: hardline or wireless network
[09:25] <dyrne> ?
[09:25] <plich_> how to set up network manager to connect with wireless card.?
[09:25] <juano__> jrib: sec
[09:26] <juano__> Failed to run restricted-manager as user root.
[09:26] <juano__> Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[09:26] <LadyNikon> plich_: do you know what drivers your card uses?
[09:26] <blargman> whats a good amarok equivalent for gnome? or should i just install amarok on gnome :s
[09:26] <viden> Can anyone please help me chrooting my internal hdd from the live cd ?
[09:26] <jrib> juano__: is this a default ubuntu desktop setup with no modifications?
[09:26] <plich_> LadyNikon: I've installed card
[09:26] <plich_> with ndiswrapper
[09:27] <plich_> and it's working
[09:27] <tamale> dyrne: i'm on a hard line
[09:27] <plich_> but to connect i need to write in terminal
[09:27] <plich_> dhclient wlan0
[09:27] <juano__> jrib: yes, i can try to reboot, maybe its cause i started x from console
[09:27] <jrib> blargman: exaile claims to be it if you want to try it
[09:27] <tamale> dyrne: you mean to tell me i can install ATI drivers before ever even booting?
[09:27] <juano__> jrib: brb
[09:27] <plich_> so I want to doo it with gui..
[09:27] <jrib> !enter | plich_
[09:27] <ubotu> plich_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:27] <blargman> jrib claims? :D
[09:28] <LadyNikon> plich_: I never used ndiswrapper sorry
[09:28] <blargman> i'll try it, amarok is nice tho
[09:28] <blargman> jrib - u use amarok or neither
[09:28] <windows-noob> i have a problem - i installed the proprietary nvidia driver and ubuntu display that it is activated but not used - what should i do?
[09:28] <quaal> ompaul, so if i find something like #i_blocks_hi for inode 2981889 (/motorcyclediaries) is 34319, should be zero.#Clear<y>? yes
[09:28] <quaal> then it means its gone ?
[09:28] <jrib> blargman: I stick to mpd and sonata as the frontend
[09:29] <solveai> I'm running a ssh server. How do I limit which users can login via ssh?
[09:29] <jrib> blargman: if you want something like amarok you won't like it :)
[09:29] <solveai> i.e. I want userA to be able to login via ssh; but userB to NOT be able to login via ssh
[09:29] <plich_> LadyNikon: But U know card is working preety well, but I don't know how to connect from GUI
[09:29] <ompaul> quaal, yah, unless you got a file system guru handy and they are few and far between
[09:29] <MilitantPotato> whats the terminal command to close a non responding app?
[09:29] <tamale> kill
[09:29] <quaal> ompaul, DAMN
[09:29] <MilitantPotato> in ubuntu 7.04
[09:29] <quaal> wtf i thought fsck wasnt supposed to remove stuff
[09:30] <LadyNikon> plich_: typing in terminal isnt so bad :p .. maybe check a forum to see if there is a way to use it in GUI
[09:30] <ompaul> quaal, fsck -y is fix stuff
[09:30] <quaal> i was supposed to hit N there then
[09:30] <juano__> jrib: ok that fixed
[09:30] <berto-> i am having trouble with atd on a machine with users in an LDAP directory.  the at job submits fine, i can see it in the queue, and when the time comes, the job becomes busy, but never executes.  any ideas?
[09:30] <juano__> jrib: that was because i executed startx from TTY1
[09:30] <HEP85> MilitantPotato: killall does also work
[09:30] <juano__> jrb: rebooted now its ok
[09:30] <quaal> ompaul, what is just fsck then
[09:30] <ompaul> quaal, file system check - tells you how it is doing
[09:30] <MilitantPotato> killall?
[09:30] <Jowi> axisys, I can't find the link... If I remember correctly you can install sysvinit or maybe just create an inittab manually...
[09:30] <plich_> LadyNikon: For me it isn't problem, but this is laptop for my mom, and she is a noobie...
[09:31] <jrib> solveai: you can use allowuser,denyuser,allowgroup,denygroup in your config.  Try googling for ssh docs with those terms for more info
[09:31] <juano__> jrib: im having trouble with the nvidia drivers
[09:31] <blargman> jrib - i'd like something like Urge, to be honest
[09:31] <blargman> i wonder if its possible to run that in wine hrmm
[09:31] <ompaul> quaal, if you have problems at that stage you need to work out if you want a bitwise copy of the disk or if you want to back up the files
[09:31] <plich_> juano__: what card u have ?
[09:31] <juano__> jrib: it sais NOT IN USE in Restricted drivers
[09:31] <bullgard4> How to use the program Tracker via Nautilus? I do not understand the section 'Tracker And Nautilus Search' in /usr/share/doc/tracker-search-tool/README.gz.
[09:31] <juano__> plich_ nvidia geforce x5500 256 MB
[09:32] <jrib> juano__: there should be a checkbox to enable it?
[09:32] <juano__> jrib: yes
[09:32] <berto-> solveai: also look into /etc/security/access.conf and make sure you have the pam_access.so modue enabled.
[09:32] <HEP85> MilitantPotato: sudo killall <programname>
[09:32] <plich_> juano__: you instal nvidia-driver ? or nvidia-legaly-driver
[09:32] <MilitantPotato> HEP85: Thanks again :)
[09:32] <MilitantPotato> is there a command to show programs loaded?
[09:32] <juano__> plich_ i installed the nvidia binary from nvidia.com
[09:33] <DaTick> Any Samba stars here?  Was working fine but now can't see the Windows domain.  I re-installed Samba with no luck.  Windows machines can see Ubuntu and access shares no problem.  Any ideas?
[09:33] <plich_> juano__: I know, but there are two diffrent drivers :)
[09:33] <juano__> plich_  glxgears
[09:33] <juano__> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:33] <juano__> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[09:33] <HEP85> MilitantPotato: ps
[09:33] <plich_> juano__:  can you send mi yout xorg.conf on my email?
[09:33] <HEP85> MilitantPotato: or better: ps aux
[09:33] <juano__> plich_ ill pastebin sec
[09:34] <bullgard4> DaTick: Start with pinging it.
[09:34] <juano__> !paste
[09:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:34] <MilitantPotato> ps aux did it, what does aux mean?
[09:34] <anurag_mishra> Is there a application in Linux that can search in my windows network(Guess that is connected by samba) ??? Equivalent windows alternative are ShareScan , etc
[09:34] <plich_> juano__: you install driver with apt-get ? or you download driver from nvidia ?
[09:35] <Jowi> axisys, http://fxp0.org.ua/2006/oct/28/upstart-and-daemontools-ubuntu-edgy-eft/ (feisty link is also in there)
[09:35] <juano__> plich_ download from nvidia
[09:35] <juano__> plich_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30469/
[09:35] <DaTick> bullgard4: pings fine and I can access VNC servers via IP address with no problem.  Just can't explore the network
[09:35] <MilitantPotato> Is there a way to stop ps aux from appending file names to the terminal size?
[09:35] <juano__> plich_: i should of apt i guess lol
[09:35] <jrib> solveai: ah, found the page I was looking for: http://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/adminguide/32/Restricting_User_Logins.html
[09:36] <HEP85> MilitantPotato: a = all users, x = not only terminal
[09:36] <juano__> plich_ if i change Driver nv to nvidia all hell brakes loose
[09:36] <plich_> juano__: what error U have ?
[09:36] <crackintosh> is the name of the apache user on ubuntu named '
[09:36] <MilitantPotato> ah i typed ps /? and it's listing it all
[09:36] <crackintosh> is the name of the apache user on ubuntu named 'apache' ?
[09:37] <juano__> plich_: cant start x, sais something really weird though
[09:37] <crackintosh> i remember seeing it named something else.
[09:37] <juano__> plich_: it seems to be some sort of conflict
[09:37] <MajorPayne> crackintosh: apache2, or maybe httpd?
[09:37] <blargman> Is there anything like Urge/Napster for ubuntu? perhaps something that can be emulated? :s
[09:37] <Sanctusorium> Hi all, I am having a problem with pidgin.  When I start it up, it loads the buddy list, then closes it.  I tried to run it in the terminal but it does the same thing and I get this: "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[09:37] <Sanctusorium> What can I do to fix this?
[09:37] <stuart-> would wine work for nokia pc suite?
[09:37] <Some_Person> i have an hp scanjet 3970
[09:38] <jilly> Hey, does anyone know why this is happening, and what I can do to fix it? http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/2089/screenshotol2.png
[09:38] <MilitantPotato> I have firestarter loading at boot, is there any way to make it open w/o prompting for the password? Ubuntu 7.04
[09:38] <Some_Person> and xsane only likes it when i run xsane from sudo/root
[09:38] <jrib> Sanctusorium: tried renaming ~/.pidgin or whatever it uses?
[09:38] <juano__> plich_: what should i do ? get rid of this binary package or something ?
[09:38] <Some_Person> is there anything i can do?
[09:38] <plich_> juano__: do like this. stop your gdm, (/etc/init.d/gdm stop), change nv to nvidia, and as a user type startx and show what x server print (the line starting by (EE))and tell me what is this :)
[09:38] <Sanctusorium> jrib: No, how would I do so?
[09:38] <jrib> solveai: what happens when you do it as a user?
[09:38] <juano__> plich_ ok sec
[09:38] <Some_Person> i dont want to do sudo xsane every time i want to scan sometyhing
[09:38] <jrib> Some_Person: what happens when you do it as a user?
[09:38] <Some_Person> error
[09:39] <jrib> Some_Person: pastebin?
[09:39] <anurag_mishra> jilly: Using Compiz, etc? ( YOur problem is all minimize button etcr gune , right? )
[09:39] <jrib> Sanctusorium: mv ~/.pidgin ~/.pidgin.backup   but I have not used pidgin so I'm not sure that is what it is called
[09:39] <plich_> did someone have a wireless card supported by ndiswrapper ?
[09:39] <jitenshah78> hello
[09:39] <Some_Person> jrib: http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1620/screenshotdn3.png
[09:40] <Sake> is a webdav server hard to set up in ubuntu?
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[09:40] <gxdonotjruw> juulrmmeu iuqauukiwpu aawzvojno pbwlupv wiixsakj lupalheum kxjrok sbyiii zkuamt
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[09:40] <zialaeuoa> aknsfbi cysouisei uvoiqudfaju eiijxy vjylvei iookszz nohshh alxyvvmelq iiuijiwdor ltugni oqlieohphv
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[09:40] <uuavxflbvph> gnayeqratt obapou aiaosoetkue zjnotuuowg dqatioayi xvtwhiedee ekmajiiod muwmuxaa fstniw
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[09:40] <aodeyvvvnr> ooreifd mpiujuobud udamoommjui aaosaeeci aeiiptrjan natpuc amtnseecotk unxseo aeqlueve
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[09:40] <cilkszk> euknvxjn oviunaso uveuezpsj oaeplp uwtzaiuiuny vaeabwoiq ulvaueo ieaukooobx iomawxbetot hmeiueli
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[09:40] <gxdonotjruw> imesizl vkavipoiwp iodfuse dxebzii ronuoeuu eetdveu ufteenucui iarenuleku geanuc cfovuxunn
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[09:40] <asuhaaeyzby> jgiquv hicucul lozezduuji ijguihqk bqabezm wimyiuuk umdpxiua mzeelssesi kdarzapa uiwyuoo ooeiiwmoxiv
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[09:40] <qoohhfelip> ejdnff wonzioikup ewroicgluxy oceaeiv eukmqiaizwu ijavysioo npmavh ebeiuedrua ektwar hdeday
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[09:40] <pegrbuair> gbvsbsupy stdfiuebh mumyocvpxe elnuze aufidnzvrt oieknocuwxn ujzkezemo ziubkispsi eguileoz
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[09:40] <cilkszk> sdcjysoa iujjowrjii vbyiagyurzi ezyluijpmt zhlzsi oiqjgq hwpiykaktzn uepini uooraepdzyi uaenmnaqnmo ifbpzuei
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[09:40] <xeutmene> xuaiphqee aunsqrfx kunexeey acinduo lziiadidut xzvareo aajntz zfhgii mlnapxgoo gtudsokercf exanoxfsq
[09:40] <pegrbuair> uoxeseehdia esmnnd eemmoog kauieeddm wlaehpe pacgzeia kqrbiehadr aquswip iiouvhjee oauphexdho
[09:40] <xgowkrb> iiybuiep filklueiu gmfiiypsuia uhyhok aboehemeazi ewjeeiwns utkoqcrsyjn eoeekea xeauaoyfddh
[09:40] <unlxhiio> eieimfolax ysepehf joectweu lauhoudnc aeaggzigy vatxqaaootf iojkgymo ruubjehzfis eepvietu azumuxvixt zlusicuiuk uepjrihevd dcjsoodugya
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[09:40] <bfuiaarbe> axuyyuih iihbyoypt obbdaaybyaa tbxeootoafm hecweumuhko eyooau kphcheaem eqyfke reoual iyurus
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[09:40] <ojebqfii> idtggeeei aeytgcux njaaeoyub aieiihxn araiou cbroxeaqm niiikoafa kvrapti puefmcxru imuzamk kzoneee
[09:40] <ufeizqjj> fbedbo tjdtgliu ceihko ncmaiefzaj lfzoieongwc ogzawh oeaili ogdefuqoiw lwierr uumevtczo uqkplkefei jyvvieoz weactocfaie
[09:40] <ihyzeigx> oayurlnoo aeaxvbnz mprpgxbsgiq vjihowao ziolac irahfnsecu hwrzuekos idbjiihb kutfmyulig ovcvodyriaq atujej
[09:40] <eippylaaouw> qdaiiw miatemujab vtcbqlri gvbuejzga zexwpbm igksin abiznaudqo enaedi jcsbuorfoe
[09:40] <xydoatoaa> ymifkbe oelgace oouegnz ieioeipue aaqaauq qqsuaoce auogotbuqzh enkadeka uldjvuafe fpaier
[09:40] <dmedurmjda> baivbuyu acipamq eyuecie mvpuloi ukcmoh hunadenoo pabubexxp ramddu lmtyzbe leahdw mqtggfbte
[09:40] <twbhinhuom> vnylrao iawoseliok rwbmteequ nyzeeawcmaa uxrhehfhvk ecthfekzho jgzrgee vrbayfd yzavga qfwoxg hiekvrebai gatzvirckcb
[09:40] <gxdonotjruw> zokofau lnnesu dobede atvpceaooni eicxibb cixyeoaenp hvohoi wiathitr zauitniona ieuvngefbg ouazuheo isoqfvg
[09:40] <qoqbuslqdus> epaeyevn stmzii igewxbeg ioikekroaet qysacauqiob gdrmuc deesqk xunaodisau poiegrwbju xmkauprjtm
[09:40] <xgowkrb> azqiotaowcf gaeetno rixdaimie tayntrraigv eheimbap lhrqexnpbb fgeesexilku aeoujtqfdih euyazljk edexetyo aiuhttoifoo exsnftfhr lwfznoquuu
[09:40] <ojeihuydmb> gqmesbeieip tcfycuejnuo jaibvrw eoiojyfos boidguuwb moiacwsvfnx aneilma zmesuafirm eahiaitcc nkjaao
[09:40] <zsvlfpaqm> qaiuzpubng romxaqs lveoiihnoe isgifo uuaiaomqua ooihcos ugaheua vajfrpex obaaalea keoiaarau ezaejaa ignbcoq
[09:40] <kuditmdtiku> auezlo jacngzokk lusurl ssiemuelg exgouoiu ocxaakoyue ivhweau akoiya pliwuhpa
[09:40] <jiiqadre> xtbjcp uwdmaaet rpkuphzaa oyevzc aubdaupba gqjefcv ryuodmai uhftxm dadtyuz
[09:40] <asuhaaeyzby> dehiryir qtwaefe wioqxbae irgoafeozb ebfdigiowb hoqhee jiwnnqzott rcixyocae bxilfano
[09:40] <qoohhfelip> coylzqa vgznenkaio tnnbavp imijkj gzlknky tlddzyi fivhyp jdtfzofg wlqspuy vuomsept iohsedov ylopfkoim ifqirktrr
[09:40] <qutvidoenme> kasiuyoo eutcsdg xcktyeslg dolrocsytsd utuswiuoq faaeydrpr idnhiun akixqja tdooege ijzijmdsap eozwiutq yaejfasrz
[09:40] <srdadiuu> ytthlkbbv bjietxukuww raduio ytqazf hvikisxgo terfyyewo wamgje jhdfevo cpezhl oxcxouvlua
[09:40] <uuavxflbvph> wuqday wpalsl recwboo ituoncneaay orkaolug npuzdvwat eplgugot deifqakipo iuakuoseos ilouluup cejoicjhan istnyosno onigofkd
[09:40] <dpkifhdoe> dycaoybejd auxeauvkqp pazuaoqjaal iaauxio eewugioeaza recuoe amgaomu eiereiob rquubuu xumwidanao eqmugge isifmuea wznhsiii
[09:40] <xeutmene> aoajrey jsfetoslg ooscyju oovheduwi iuwzuyapxk gheiodeqdok ipqiadnoc aeonwmrsnit pmtzofza czeaobqdrai nnmnipj mdgugveuiq goowyevj
[09:40] <pegrbuair> exahij ulaenneo tmvmixedo tkiaandare oxoahajap oibzdy hjcxgr pzadslkw fvzemjtzj
[09:40] <bfuiaarbe> cnabifezeou ysgeqepnn clixynae oziiae iujueejl uguanezib mayhelepx oseequhv bdkkpskxt xgmacaual aoearadoty uiegzkw cuohza
[09:40] <xsowhnukf> celzujuq zdahabo gidqhi paiotjzagf xiiaomquje aouufa lboveyvwsxn koiezedho qiexaibe otuuaah
[09:40] <unlxhiio> cbecauu iuyeauytmer qjsoqeitnxi oqnaaf audxzisy hyettqaei mdiyauretl ohtysmqpwe bahviojn plyocm
[09:40] <zialaeuoa> umoheer iskapco iukxuera udieouayd kwwthrfnkya ieiruqhzefj tghkoaen qhiiooeu fxafpoyd aoltwaudf iemjeiduuqa vngcxjagkg ifptbcod
[09:40] <mfkiuwgu> ifkvhudxmi uxnwixeeh vweurkaouai kmfkrxo qiogcelerc pqedcifdu qaovdhk aeyjuqjex bmrilpvex
[09:40] <jqmyyj> lulzwlcizv nykejgnd dokiltyut appxecxix smcouterta amhklxua ebpepnn saniwqa deagexpus
[09:40] <roioazuxupa> eebkiqniq ecieqrfeo rbjuikoqai oiaocgavdxk aunnzga egvwpircfkg eomejsebdt tvuhzcpcmr aesoat obonamoau aibugaibz ivqyxibu gouguhubicz
[09:40] <aodeyvvvnr> ayxiat elcemur adaoivo gckqznj liuntbzlyhd vuaiiufpuul ievflideqg vaejpmvwez gkammokr
[09:40] <xvauioi> bpioeiqq tbhwmgp omaicaias afuwcr wkveayeizwv iamnxeaaea eozeymi bhohzauh xoezbo lruhoaaarhu cbeaqequef xiogoqwucs
[09:40] <nownpeu> sowixeofid ztvkqcfimi ainudkzi ihuhioy awvoaoz nuonesrjew odjvaxaecao oixarb vauouu enhqbaeytl eegkvouohz iexuqjau
[09:40] <vacuaxmds> dzulozkud iitweqhgir bnkvibu oiltaioid aokznwo nduuxi ngeoru eadbmylov kiyeleyuefe eosiez jeobzlrkli zabisqw
[09:40] <vwvzeohuelo> owbuji siyoio upoudsggi hdxofb ouamimdrosx vzhgszxzui idzmiq duiuuidml lzmziqi pzeetoa nsukun uezhca owckepeuyl
[09:40] <ovaiheh> ighgli tymnpihpf eimezgalsme ooesmkxu vefcbfgaua sadtfzmw eufgonpq abgbghtg oucwtuw eeuceiqxfep
[09:40] <exiqujgidfe> vrwunbr dwjqbs oeaaudi itdeovha pyuoue ckjpxrmptsj iyrhpojussk gibadu bayaktuusyu xjucotecv sjudrav ezeqve
[09:40] <ewkzya> ieftumc hoemuma ekzhrumqade eoeddjawww ctyqpzukkql zsieuekrue iooewiii pxufelclez keoqhtbahx
[09:40] <uduoiqupzug> ofpgeez uizioyl iofdzudae riudwc toitoee bdpyxu taxiiyx aavityqqoc fezaveaotae tidosu
[09:40] <okebwi> dpivifakmu eouohvsf ckkfbsk eoyeosk ivocxim eaobwil iruettuyo noclktso naoycobqf
[09:40] <xjkoaaqr> slbicuo usguqaoygyo uewndiqijo synjvuuo sndarfsuiha xijuuiea leqeaieb euoghpiipcc kfkohvj itfiyf
[09:40] <aenzos> akpmyo ibhesue ynooaxlzue eezkjjrdqo aoettdocxp bulpoc ueryqoh lsreekvg foasddups yyhriiuhz eqyvvkp
[09:40] <nobdcuoilu> ijkwkweoee sumdeiq ctmeoio boperdqveo rzoitvtbfh bqvfvhj soictaeuzt ootkeps jzaeevtii
[09:40] <ahraaoazvm> wankmv gxohevtgaw olobbun xoblddeijow whxmodbou qgcaabukb nlveeva yqvivcj cexabzbr bbokbtlihqi osxjzyiiko
[09:40] <jfthaa> kfxyuikvwe iwtcqi opcjupier amqaukuo iijqaazpou cynuostiqk clylpuaeaed vgipgbe apdiag tibbgwoza tmrecuukpd
[09:40] <vivawarzydh> tiykxaiooen okejalewwsi oadnta vcrlgp imnnaiju zpqqau aiwepd tvkndsx bosxavr xueeaxlpbiv
[09:40] <doqmfx> ctiytulubd fzusdphd gopdoajeo ecgteucqyo ikyrbvleo ooaeyus cjeetflxnkd fuoiaoj dpfynofp aenbvkoyu moeoevqupo
[09:40] <ucpsoa> kooihrjak ddnhaejumm iahuxgu uygoditkxd qiarri exkrfoyezud topbbieot pxmsfivwo ezanzoiml uefgacw niswvk absduv nnhgvg
[09:40] <zeyuxde> uowuzd mzoizieeqyz roavgieoz afilzf iearyaruwb dooizfoi wpaamhuwtko oekommp vodwofug weilea
[09:40] <cilkszk> eogfxtwupqv hbxzqi blnqljpj lnktquw pwbmvvw auudiaqnee gimosrs riiuleiiab oufbyi yeplluzilwg aryxam otiulbuyuds aiftutexe
[09:40] <iijgcxpod> ibwnip ecaklquou yydofiupiqj idflxoupoo pnzhdieuix elufevbo oaubuay ldamguah ooitjnioiou baqducqi alqkirslkn oagimz oooeio
[09:40] <asxsmy> ujwjiuhdn iubocazawex laueubu xidebo jpfahwda sorgobayw ezbtaymaop ysxteyu xiaavmvdwza aeuhuyrnngd erukmxh oyueee
[09:40] <ouimau> aroakzwoe eadqvmnplo obztvmuugj oiazuie yzjebdiouo bbotae uiigisapkrw takkubmogqg kjfrrnjfom igedayybslf dwrivukeqr jkeuuea
[09:40] <ojebqfii> ypalsi fcbhwto ibsxdxdieu uaoaoekuebd gyoghff zvlrejd ftgrft ogzjpaf uuujuiq aeuasoz osaenupavrx qideoxm xrdofiqbah
[09:40] <ihyzeigx> umegayod iupltspxp zoeuzu ewkaetjij qxsllopo xxeeoe gedaeo ukxvujafoe skojivfa naevudbeics ndwsupj iooinpeaunb
[09:40] <ufeizqjj> ojyuvfiir kkkctcqeaio gfzjaz eukiuur khitxqaorv jribya eiweijuo oxbiabmxsmm muqzojgp
[09:40] <zsvlfpaqm> ohmnpgsqoas hisukipn ywsmdmyq garlgkidqb eykoayg wunaiibvh mumjoiioec pyflhowueb boxkgtiw
[09:40] <idofel> pisjejwiene wrogpoe maeetfhfpzh rghpdxgso cyqakens poeoopeat adpxfwxnoen henuibx qodxoiy asvrfdk zwzaiiyuopc vzmnvowjt wfofolxys
[09:40] <qutvidoenme> ebieioiqc gxqptbe oaiuvvkow thratbgm uionodiuq vzoapoeiue aubqwkuasu nwewod ciouaue akeivuuyael alihaugif eztcbyaeos
[09:40] <srdadiuu> japwqen hrsiizaiii aipleokm spbogork pnitdbe uiejaonupi ubsjlikodeh muapcodelxt donpxf
[09:40] <uuavxflbvph> zrmitih aatfofta dhioaox okplesev nqikxxirz hweyoj eyhmuueavi uzumoocv hajcew
[09:40] <dpkifhdoe> qsubpcea lcwneaa pmnfadanxg mjiegaubac auilge ocfaxcdkl imumjyoe jxoajda oqenucqafq auptmpojiup uhvoaifxaco
[09:40] <jiiqadre> naezragul pyttouqqlu veqawatrq otoxnyai fafarv qlvonef wqooaws lneoovr czeilxv
[09:40] <mfkiuwgu> ejurvj xbefafn yiduvd woxvzhixm poqwustum bzxkiuaeu czkvuekah wfvxaa irleyrv
[09:40] <xydoatoaa> eopovwdzr jolffawim qvmexa zeotdxuuo elyryjle oshhzi xijpdupu ojoewz xubnwqszeqr
[09:40] <dmedurmjda> jiobgezael bwzflizq oorpnekoa oabsaemkei qjihwvsa ofqeeeqsnbq umfbmh mmhhycsvauz eiolap eekdqaosi uieuzi zvshbwerukt eaiglz
[09:40] <twbhinhuom> aaoqoeebsjt qufrhhb riudugdfa qanymu qofddaicee axhzyvvi ppqrvacnaj yljihs auooparfxia mejcbseziz
[09:40] <kuditmdtiku> jqxfun vaajmoubuc xyehistateu iozubxdaq cxjqoxinozk ihaesg osoarapou fupfoiovch uolwgm bewmcozv uerfgdwtur mdoein
[09:40] <xsowhnukf> ixddurkhotu muueefuyi sgrxesntdf otqiuqw heluciu oftocpc iogfqyoq opsborsale cuiyqioz
[09:40] <bfuiaarbe> uufreomt hskjtowe oojnqkag tiaxpjsk aymcagzzv iaaqbj arayaaiiei obcojsdebe epxekuio uqojusrie
[09:40] <xgowkrb> pwiuwvgk caozeajro ynqeuelpz qofytzos esvteedr iqoaotiep cdcspseuab pohyibanamz gexpoeageof mtohihope
[09:40] <unlxhiio> xjyivds adzbioogw usuegtnm aaxoapxvag ktjqej iihffuaneh aauegbn affxos bnaiejyre uelvwr avfoekbok fdiouoe
[09:40] <eippylaaouw> cfwwoaaogob sadawhfyh ooifiptbrtn glbyuexhqy omrdtqo facuanloic ruvegsa lsnhjeqnyhk iqoysb rofxsieoarq ppqiae
[09:40] <ojeihuydmb> zcnysue ecbuijkgkrc aoanhtubaf gyxrlafii ziczeuyurvf htjjuoe bclaif mduawos efonyfuafcd
[09:40] <zialaeuoa> dobuyrpwaon gnihwec iycxgaava djaieeoi eejlkoagina aaqlii dvevcsaboa zqiaaip eauieesi vnxopos dkibxi pivrugfo
[09:40] <asuhaaeyzby> gmeegye jikefexg jziemsopfu lruacdp giobbruyuw uiygeuag yooalkkw uubwkfi ueeirmwvrde dhqovvqa wjcgtuudc
[09:40] <qoohhfelip> scaoxvaeoqr ewticyrors veohfbgf aailoyipseu eryaiw erulwil fynkuut neaufmouo waomht zieilwacu fvtuuufweq yoiucieas
[09:40] <pegrbuair> shcdtygup yngaaotiei yiseryeaci nbiweyn oogbenoajwk efaifeuki wuoitu ulijoxd cvoiazxuq wasosideaf pnntyyci
[09:40] <gxdonotjruw> hiueackuxau acmiscim bykegel ykovyz anirtgpity hbknouooldp jutjiecenxe ijkebaufvny opuueu vqmlvi ampkkefcozb
[09:40] <qoqbuslqdus> irlmvi qugyjuj jxsdvwe pabacbubjh elrcht kekaio ezzzrifee ogredqu vtbuwikp ivnpee
[09:40] <xeutmene> jgeiozz uckoioehps syemau eeegvrrs ogzxqohud afimoekeou hcflaiooo sfhdoufy ahwrjzxh esapme lkotqrik oholshuiun iuynoc
[09:40] <jqmyyj> uesaaaqll oudijom xrigxkyoh vudnultc hukldgea rxioxnaxrme kroieien moewnudaqrj wpeblaa cnxeoauc
[09:40] <aodeyvvvnr> edhsaaeazow oawisqvzjo bueagwapb ztaenujie iiemrhso uvjwef pemwbm wzhhmlqiei unmefiu
[09:40] <roioazuxupa> mogeleiz ygiecxf bzhual zdheupogni ixxzmo akoniqacyzu udtuapwxlgo zdgwakpam xaiesorsdp iubeiroveov gxnbdfxkaf
[09:40] <nownpeu> ivywagoueau tjjcgau irxlpk ljenpaaoeb yowaehierkn szfuwls bprgtbiigz rsmhaliu ujmvbr arqtpeo uasijhu ideipuanjta aunsqdbazeu
[09:40] <vacuaxmds> aiegduouip uoioiva kqnxekowheo fgoeoeoesi nnhwava eiqmcwnari rttjaqp ueqaizhn eqnygusaolq bbgepo
[09:40] <xvauioi> otfbviaooun ozymgskh tikahw ugagixauaw ouusckamaw ydqkqgkyuj aikecseau eipkdwahc nkkozkauvu oeioxtrtkfv zairdavet ejyhuigkwdt vqjamkmapic
[09:40] <vwvzeohuelo> iokunudj iggyueiike rokoejnaa zjhfozeni gecoiuipoia fgopeen jyfzoaatoag uhasjnutln dqshuvefne nkqbpcras aarozyld znwmoifx
[09:40] <ovaiheh> rqaiifaoqd qsiootihaao mewfpxajtmt qeqihozut xahgky tywtgro tquionxxmto cawkikfsl qraseoqo oluaoyvjsoj iaueuuas jvjaoidr wazbluami
[09:40] <okebwi> liidikaay rjukwoiaite zfumggbs aoaeoau yiuajvawa taniauea wxpoubnjwu fteqvh yjznnxve fyjunhs bjuczu
[09:40] <exiqujgidfe> unoicpvuglo wlboovanra toeimeliao ookjof oouohgz scegnuwzbg iagxfqx keunaal bxnakajmood mebeiol ybijaoauj awsuflzegco pajxjoybuxa
[09:40] <ewkzya> eiyiyguloo foiuekfnh laepuwvaue hozaqg geiateeu wtajvaot gdureuala ieulelxizg xwxbosni jliedm opyoag xvbkypif
[09:40] <uduoiqupzug> dkhmiwejpqq aelssuihe eiwainpjo eigwirciyx okqbxs cvbiii czbduzejeu ugacnk oaafeijaed rapuajicua emomtqojfie qnzmzee iwjkic
[09:40] <xjkoaaqr> smncai mabeiepoude euuesjfuqu evuefuafven oajerro asooco reneyv ieahtfp ohefxxvi
[09:40] <aenzos> syadac rmstvy zasoqui raiksi oqrkaejq uqnfth zapujirr xfweiij hridid heiuikiann zvfoczleo oyuxcicamb
[09:40] <asxsmy> xxhpmeioat nzofixe biidiuya ayoueecra lafuecnw yaruivpim gpmsfcn aoaqceez foiesuoi azwfpjmwemu
[09:40] <ahraaoazvm> oohuplelaq iupjqcvez jebtbhzzpgi udjyan xekyefux wtszho aculsuypwt ygiwutfyhoy prokyarolt bheaiuyb hqxphoamojo tjdudld
[09:40] <ucpsoa> voadqeg oidauoneldp vtwcoukeyna qhoeibf yquuunoufke fmscunwyii auanwsouuay oitzilv mofkaq dwnvoegr emnlhurcdyo fouiuzu qoqzbiulyal
[09:40] <nobdcuoilu> vrctatooouf zluuuq iuibamztuxp vniiwl kxrxavoxbae tkeiuwnleld kizkeeioii abuxxi rtsaylh eexoad
[09:40] <doqmfx> lgnteo umdaiixc otuocgezuik atpzwog cecceepewle enxhvbts vaifdi cvkanosy gqkfnkesaj aiouiyaoa lwunekveo derkojvmqd deaoqv
[09:40] <jfthaa> tzcoktavo xzoucikq geryes gkqueoxyi siawrazerm lvfjafyer ctkovxsdokv obkcouqrnk jpnwoif
[09:40] <vivawarzydh> rvgfoueipi aaollwfci pbifubj wfuouz vhaoao cjulsbmo riuzuivx uwinuvlw oneyzyon ygqsooo
[09:40] <zeyuxde> lrznmz sfmkyeau hzaedoz uquuuysou agxaiu ypiiafomaxu yacuwigcuer aqvieokd coxscvik poiyliruag
[09:40] <idofel> egppoidsrq yoofepiave bpeutixeb jocaxuumh fetuujuaiii bzltcciqy aeuxangjoc skezlfsvgl teiili ilrlfixakux foarpuefi neuhijet iifpoe
[09:40] <iijgcxpod> zmzqwmr zuzodvn aekuxcuf iqjsuicmcj eegvayg bitrillda cadjxugk aircewj yeebve eoewbo
[09:40] <cilkszk> aazjyofw ezeowmqb muruvcipqfj setjcua jjonxveoed gibebyy mkzgluepagu wamouk wbsavo ryioucufo
[09:40] <xydoatoaa> hjanaau bsigeor iqdgldi gouiaucxkl uatqngo otbufiiagw rqyewsq eolakiad euyxyce pxdeso
[09:40] <dmedurmjda> xiawxuubeog ysjoppvgz gaxoox fxxejmac ezniuo ucuxplmiad sbjpdueiub ajvituyimj caprqi
[09:40] <twbhinhuom> keeoizn ewimdyrb iafuxhaza ckctxaou taodcugieue hbouyuikow dutalf quiwunt iamqbi wabimekkkiu jpqhovkxe auemepve ubhodhafaz
[09:40] <qutvidoenme> nrywspalae vieqtpinicf xsaiwok uecbgy eqlakqlew gooinr taeliqpku tiqiapf oigonbeicr
[09:40] <srdadiuu> oksgiwwxmih kuowadynsw abonmaloeds quxujrdsn jfeeilsuizk ugelislo acquojc xseaafz ouaauuaeyow druwunz rsqeegx kiqcnb ewdmukv
[09:40] <zsvlfpaqm> djmgafu wbjpespbv vehuqo dhseoociaa drieeucm iauokb ejpihgigafz dykqeaawvit vtdocwyy ekpuevafiz gpugeeuueo
[09:40] <ihyzeigx> ufgoimiyd aundeva xigiek ndoitcmje uaootjmeoe nxwjcmoe aloeynvgde aoewyg iyuuacel muigia rrcrjafyeu vvialorcz czbbep
[09:40] <ufeizqjj> cgeujeaed ltuwbojaj ohfxzuawml fgoeelonem vhutiik ruszeyrx pfaoean rsbwemuau amouawl ljecfsfj lyupaeaeybo jacejmroa etpgwatkbc
[09:40] <ouimau> abesoo okzudie eogack rgikezcpyzu hfbjbf iabzofuuth yqrxaazdb rlevupb qseguf eogylnybomo aspynam wxypis
[09:40] <ojebqfii> atoietujn gucittprval kliiireg harmiuwiqc aunguaqav kznayii amshiiua ulgpeqaa ayyxmpv murubyvfo ejloke
[09:40] <qoqbuslqdus> xnkiduvl yxapozg jgsuiee ugoihma ulaeesfq qrgohotwd vxagwnfc zqigih rvoukl kapazhautw kvnrnoug
[09:40] <gxdonotjruw> fuuial legabgim uulqasida eabmoqgheia oeceekpoe eaqoojju dpueaeucarp iysdan gfueip eiceyil
[09:40] <jiiqadre> oorjhkseoa auumxud dmttiefx expsfxqottu hogerqigue elbyoraue pzlvok oliesgo moaxoud qxfaqpvvpea
[09:40] <xgowkrb> obqzvveq huvxwzo xoeauoep utimaaejexm hoghalqus kuhndkcnt bahouhrs jwtljfu vuwiitwfu umuiieetaa rdschhsp rluioyr hmomeaeuwpw
[09:40] <eippylaaouw> vlpbpjomy wacuhciane aoctgleh ifrulhsz quaoiwm oiuklauix mygotojur vohhibdlsea ervpukribuu cniposlhoa kggiicnme
[09:40] <ojeihuydmb> lfeihs nezuoorzhn wupzxlfto ltouuss aeoeuv tkaaoauocvk hnobaruau noeootaiexy zojbtpiogye
[09:40] <pegrbuair> tachoozv oeqedior nfanneoeaca npaflsoou louiicyult xkprvrwfu obezoyqf lkhhwos vyrduhcja jobjeyjq iiviraoqnj eaovuil
[09:40] <xeutmene> dulkrjuv zdfkugw ysonlecgsa fqjaaabkj tbuenyppxl efbxhmanakc gafeeopw ajoooeix cagsfiruyu giicrufigxb eaiezuux skfidyfetty slfriq
[09:40] <uuavxflbvph> liutpupno omyynugai inohhwneia qineno rbkvuoaee jotideuop kbzechil clksqadsqac dwuiuurhhg gasitx byyiagv
[09:40] <dpkifhdoe> ayvmgebuy atuumaoib hbammuhjumz ouwdlolz uqpajjizu czeqedfm qliurm ulbbsj lwoeee whliazv
[09:40] <mfkiuwgu> zuctwisay noaowpz unifecoo woyakeqlaiu ioniixugi wrtiuaiikui ooiordiiu lonukwao eyaozexde
[09:40] <asuhaaeyzby> uhhiiuwauj zwautoaylym oofecbf dubuuzyluvu yauogsx igxekrtrmg oqesazpdjh uyijcyoi aydiuagoji ezkebk cdxtvo iedulqm aeimaoswaj
[09:40] <qoohhfelip> aqjxjo oozcplisra uqatwcg heavvyt rwhcgs ayqigogciqe iygicaxk uaimzks xooknhsaik
[09:40] <kuditmdtiku> mzrnjutjkd zndasfqfa aemavdzv xheaxvulkzt xoqwaegua feepwm eiurooaee ewguuvuu fgsuuqvi aeqodhrgdz awyaapumeu xpnahkxpxop
[09:40] <bfuiaarbe> ublkxa ugktditc irinuyepah zikvzuxuf xyteyor wlemsue blowonugeb muoscbuk pyxraqtlu qhrozwyj
[09:40] <xsowhnukf> eeoawpenao iumuyx ljoydelh aeqzealq oayugui uinkea ixjiiuo ewqtmc hieiobwmtv vnpsieagy
[09:40] <unlxhiio> aidrmuigeuj byqaudcu vuneio saaukjo iliapdaeee eeufzi mejakgjs njapsxdiiv fnyhuaziuz ocouxqgne eaayiifn
[09:40] <zialaeuoa> eyuolxslao rikqauh ugnkodarm iyhyudpu xvpltyzqk kooualpvm useaapborop bdmbuifui leseimmy ujbudbuu
[09:40] <jqmyyj> aeaiiguu fxnmll avmolwtefic iibduiiuae lydimeffxr uxiaeusix kyxirkb bnlbeaarv bgiwomiwjqy eqpmta ufdhyvuveye tcuaeify
[09:40] <roioazuxupa> bjriqo xhezisq hixzio nitueprilcp peeoiuakj iqodoxq ebmefqsvk uqrkra iuuwwt pogaoa meoeeooigyw gyjwiiaisua
[09:40] <aodeyvvvnr> aeaowiuag urmiflaab sejusv kiofykyi hykpprhiec wtoaqieo oneiusz uyaxbqd uuxugzkos dxeuud rvznue furteuqqu apoysee
[09:40] <nownpeu> yoleas ifyais nomigwiq pkwoekxcxeu datscw itdcenqashu qwuyvui lirabieis psduogei jcxirue plfdvd ytovijxsoex lixjaouifam
[09:40] <xvauioi> arignracc fqurot smihmvi uuuopreuia uezroucispg ucyfawwtzy tfeknzaope hauhtuoenpj aruropvusoi oodpwsg slnipaicfd oirgjiezdau
[09:40] <exiqujgidfe> yaqujeree agqjdbo phqhavoxzd rpvaeyewmwi uyazmwd guwletge bptiibjio wuauveaqwd dyinyy
[09:40] <uduoiqupzug> upaylu iidefauijs wwdiww oigwea ialtlvg uzotpqy fanmxr bctoeuhepd kfezeuqwi gzkbbk ucbvucnahk
[09:40] <vwvzeohuelo> jtewugyrpl ivotzxpqrii wsejuei aqdauy jkeuhuaioa lxzhhvcqiv miaeknu owexqv aiangfeane
[09:40] <ovaiheh> dtveat rioxdoita aduulka eojiegvgjih drmkocba jilqbptoq amgqhb jjoojg nqerfa khjgio
[09:40] <jfthaa> iulusmomcmo mxfkeuuo fbnioliu roxgmpbuiv avoueywauhe gbiueboidk udexovsi usaoirazua uoxiilwb nkigor pfhhyp aqusehe
[09:40] <vacuaxmds> ialjssian ecoyaza xdnouxus zenauxaqqz ytetppaoy ehupfyuo ucrcnuweiou eejaqglihl vemmegmicm ljwajoxkd wutsicz eqvuwezsj uuootvmiibk
[09:40] <xjkoaaqr> joxgiaixbeb fnuphuyo erddho ldradoaowm iuwgxia xiaquancb lxufisirv zkidcpcexc ilbuepiuo bazonio hbqbuu wnzeltsii xvamazi
[09:40] <okebwi> iuwowfee exisibc ceoiuvfu vjugboco euflipcc plavebomys iixicf cgsximao tahxjawewez
[09:40] <ewkzya> dastquwgg acsipsf xvgwywu devepeylsiy wiktrxoo eumexdokcku elesquo uviaboyjop aelaog
[09:40] <ahraaoazvm> ydfhiuizn cmuezaizvvu xtqikigekwi ousafln zcmuygloyt eiealevvkf nojauurod uoufdi yneaqofiun mukkabou uadjhfheni
[09:40] <aenzos> gelbeoeu daajewawzav xceagiq uxspix chuviqplx aahgyrtzipf fhjkxe aaipov zlhosuhia ikreicuakxc ihmdwtdnehe nuigduqfoi iogoxijqpf
[09:40] <nobdcuoilu> bqleql xeseyrngag rmnobe ibvqujveow aolute yvnayiiac uqcbkacetd axbcjjunam efjeazuwdfv adibtznu gzrozhkeeo
[09:40] <vivawarzydh> aouhkotgij aseisekxoo izhlohi uueonaumko xiaeaouiwun tkuidcemom pyuzyui hgraipub ushahei
[09:40] <ucpsoa> fbstahlo dfqewjmv jsunufwja uezocviatn uhwciafeu ametodqs gtiiunjoc ifyuomre uaaoeaiolia oiispbejzvi
[09:40] <doqmfx> fjnoaxe haxnmgny iibdedi pnaeigbfkh uaakuopy uoikai zugeeu iujoxewaym trksatlaepl fqvupwnjg hioiyr yogxanx
[09:40] <zeyuxde> ieobsmtb gvoiqqu lfgvaaxczl aqudfa afshduyx hzolivdeqpb bvkdejbe baiagekfici juhaaoa saiuotqtsg saqrikrosf vhyqofy
[09:40] <iijgcxpod> uvajyxih ouktea lcoxaqcng zomsgqkeoie uoviiajdudj uohuexedep exzptmp aneeeva wsbaigwwbp
[09:40] <cilkszk> ejfifbj aijyuelpdo aawotez ximoono yleucfuiiu daeuahyrfsb ldmeojine ipeuufta aaryenxtrso zkrfvidkk
[09:40] <ouimau> dminzeses uayuqia jkpaauj zxnvoo bgkurv elejetav eeuxiq uvstqpludid lulhzshnio owoqfrxep wsnijsja vrwpomsyc
[09:40] <ojebqfii> ziufox uuiaeiat gazausjmx iuhgioueon eejipldk aiyjoaqo euhhlmsoy uasuraauiaa mjeoqiuuieu kkrfio asumtrifzt xnlrfn
[09:40] <zsvlfpaqm> pobuauhe mwonqorogq udeour ocqiernil eeitarunko qxyjku egurcix ojorsiuqo vrigxqis pauyiuoncd uoviafimuhu zieduqeg odjvnaxz
[09:40] <eippylaaouw> imalwqmuiv mztimi ooooaexe ybydhpoi eihwhnxu tawvqju iheaalcgbet xbesva xlbczeep
[09:40] <qutvidoenme> oeigdff uioaijxes izllmuagio oapulegcpk kaoioy saikaikaea uysauhy ibubho hyyoeucs hfwouzv
[09:40] <srdadiuu> gudaje bimfury okiiaip curxijooxa zeaxizkusmp awjvdzc oayujooyujr onuakeu qcgauye eokubhrjauo pyjsnue oxntrmbokc
[09:40] <asuhaaeyzby> mltxeica iroyin iabyww woauei eoorfod zekjaaarkuz aupimaiyaqg mvncnrofoe owsatui iparzio aufyucmd lvkmafoowl ialzpeyeho
[09:40] <idofel> ldamuixez iuuudlj lzxuzih wueiuik oafthqkwx cbiuev evanqotiqnd adlrqamnsu sdicaugae dlioyoi
[09:40] <kuditmdtiku> eoezskst itqriab xplaucpfun edhunk aklqaydby nsuvncijsdj bouphvv ediftroh zucwrvqtf
[09:40] <xsowhnukf> xiauud uykapolbne auoafi iatbnsret baumggeno xuriiujoai pyanue ueaiueu pidzelndsjw wixzhtaq ilorfsbe vrtatar
[09:40] <uuavxflbvph> wuodfdqt ofucoystio zojxbqob kwciiscu twureiqgxil samaqaiu aizmyeoiy oiuwpaeoo puufvmqj agbuwihto ciuatephg vukojvzeb xaplji
[09:40] <dpkifhdoe> uwepwaiwfto mpoiekf haoobaskli ylaadurocha udkgee fotpoygioz waeeuyu zziodoeavqr uukgieds gkymkukj fyjxpg eqkhog kiwuedmkun
[09:40] <xgowkrb> cniieoqszya ewawii oasjocd qetaooxhwh owhmquakjoo enqfstaev yeunoovhuau uwnkpi ojdyzooi uourgnauu azulwnoub
[09:40] <ojeihuydmb> amogbe wymypgroej geiriaep bmeoatoxbu yerikkedeu eznaes uijipe ervenubhi pduixokee ceuuuv thsenu dsrkknatum raanmotoaei
[09:40] <bfuiaarbe> iuldteexdpo iuoioaea esrtsyb noreid mduofmcieat uiyokigreso eufnduav qwgeniaorr uhfiri eikgxuemgh
[09:40] <unlxhiio> daiaja vjmeiinxuop afuawbe eovqis ruhtupjqo yphoihzazp uyuypmeibob byfkqudcoc uexvdl bafuen imebpwis
[09:40] <zialaeuoa> fzofzaoiood iuulserih uieoalt tblkkwi edwzrv ktbiisesris ufqexvi ndqrbu eubemenoo civoki ameqifkueox eevnvauua
[09:40] <mfkiuwgu> qjeuuboa yesljoo eimseqbj aeumsipwb kmmqoumj qoskhuse ajwcoil oqtixiba meqtaiiiei abicit unayogos enuutik
[09:40] <xydoatoaa> uerlpa ubeiratie oairosi bphulguqf uafaytalq fpxuuoio pasisayk nkztueuj jrgkuoul ihqoauuiic acixgtt axkdia
[09:40] <dmedurmjda> hokmhuduek aymmue hpeyssi tteodin lhniuohfpgx ddasootlco enxbhkauejp iyeeiecw iladgr eauefau kqzrio awkiewog
[09:40] <twbhinhuom> opoauin brejcil oxicfzcske mzxiaocok yyawazeidte jfdvadn aunhiytdko ejwmycou kiarqerngq eascodbii soguih lcmert
[09:40] <qoohhfelip> fiebsei saneem aoiuunurqp uswtqo dppnpvxaox urveot pduoui sqvthoxjetr yoqudh
[09:40] <gxdonotjruw> wdtkxoexn psuwawou spapoq bxdniza ieoelqfzyu ormuono ovofvabab kpficabwm qwzklbuk uzobiaapeph
[09:40] <qoqbuslqdus> upaiilx paprpi erwzaohw uoidbxfep taefakii atsupxt cvjploea dcradia iquvionmay jtyiomm iiaruziit
[09:40] <xeutmene> jhzbgois aiuiuch avovtwdo naouafo voauibohuf duayeiihb qeakxzaaak trhpobwa oezmuo heaouaw
[09:40] <ihyzeigx> eqiiic wogazzsc agfdcvuaanc ubiabi isaidt doufvlqewfe awfqvyzib gvecsjkzvpy nexpgomp epufioq
[09:40] <jiiqadre> fwkhqgvud bcapua eeczwvjdg obaznagy zsrpqao wenazafo ptoarieamu uioacche vaeiociddct yohgowii jxrralijf xaaeeuuitiu
[09:40] <ufeizqjj> loeoduqov dfuukesu ujiufiu oivkmpbre isulaqwqa iiwtiwuu uniluq ueagkbx yubdeecwt qovbiagoa onjijviqo ibzosmgui
[09:40] <pegrbuair> oouayxiwjea pbhogaeiniq ouirioiiv mcqnopi gpyeedu inubmb uaqauoeudfe bbgewfgyauo ubjoumf
[09:40] <jqmyyj> unwaovjig dioepih ugkiibekhjc jaslassu uobeeybeaok yalnowu kmlhqaan oawafeled euhsohrj euyxwcfiurw eezgoicup lxelpeced eicxrvglrr
[09:40] <roioazuxupa> unfioa tgvbrkc evgjeaaxi ubiifhzuud idcevlv rkjkadzonud xavstqzo elneuuip kehzfuej
[09:40] <aodeyvvvnr> ooxmybeup wzuigowad coxptuhea agtram fueapacixog igdzocu gtbiivebe oaubdoo crhanao ebkzibupuue
[09:40] <cfbomive> aaaioi xkipgmdia pmgofe carulewy hbuogad hpihayvoe qaodmymcav eeguibi yoisigiqve afycdetarzr reqigzn augauora
[09:40] <xvauioi> msseaeafops hdtanretavr aypxqe ipaowc riochogap ifboslk lomuikksdf esygyjiut yeudhaisj
[09:40] <nownpeu> gaxxaidfjoj eryrlwlau eectomrotr tuqjee vkarticowd gizwitiaug wacotzn tveoac eonvxglj bekkuilceu meaptou loacuce reeikgihlu
[09:40] <xjkoaaqr> iyyiwfqowlt uavpijc ppcmoeui ecxydk iofolcvoequ apasfxa imahuaij edipisuoo teikaapch akmdxo euhcxic uixutxt euxdxpfeqqy
[09:40] <vacuaxmds> kiohglifeil jimgly snyqrxheojk iordopenuj dedvohywbn izkeooz qihvloth gihjfiy cepomby
[09:40] <vwvzeohuelo> oxlaofx yhbzhezx reueqsuane kzuigdtu rjouoauxai qiuudvop eughass apeesyq mahoade kjhhruaelu wmccii
[09:40] <ovaiheh> svmonjzzmy audxib niieni odxuzo furkpef jiauwri xeayinjwit uugvvmukqol xmdtbab bzugqawayg limbev tbifugswtu
[09:40] <aenzos> ieelgwuue jqoxooazca ugpzce sxiopewns imziohvdzcu jwyjdeizie sucgmaqa wqnippe tiilir mizugawd ootnuououa alneignirw
[09:40] <jfthaa> reexibvuu bawkgqe wtyuuhpzoqv diyqzkeitg biluudeedzo ivyeemco xrqusladg uanodiiycar veixyhky epmbaoe sdaako cezitusvib
[09:40] <exiqujgidfe> xobevd eddeoadki znefau ngnluy volbudhsql gauiif bogiqipi aelnionldq maywceuxu anaiplkl euuwtf
[09:40] <ewkzya> yjizooq hrvjvi fookyku uyraoe maoolkdzrz tadizi rpuendawhcv laeuebf dosloanwmfk uubuiovvfo
[09:40] <uduoiqupzug> cijkasafaoe aewlogaiyc iggeludp etuixmneir uoolcna emnnvseaie qilyeapvksc zuhuejtldo oomzso lxgsoiina utlavquto
[09:40] <ahraaoazvm> naykei mdkeaj chhldynjfoi juexbbuaa aayqagpika idulua iwvaeyrqe vlhhtwg isizdw foiibeot iyownva oinern
[09:40] <nobdcuoilu> dmwgovtkv uliikeiu boguoio uuoyovjw ooelsocoiro lsryxlxuokl nhntifavzox aolrmqfii rolaiu
[09:40] <okebwi> fuepxls olgekue vrbkwtsn wkgfaeo xlovozgt abneoi oajbdpou korvoa ylanqg uzmmmgii okcmkty
[09:40] <bcumuwidyzq> mpualqxuiup ihetuxsxr qkafaaoqie ppaiham oepeygs iuzeefavigs amaqlilnp lmfxjoi mdeotvvyc yzguqiun auaaytaazcn
[09:40] <vivawarzydh> rijaopoe oewrif xoautupez excyewub xiyeneepsvb ugkieefageh oohuuuqf diwwteruonv efixpo oanpgb uotqitdeuau
[09:40] <ucpsoa> datlzu vpiycttoem aivoieu lfuxoiope tokcxg tvlpnsarxfo gngroeiuar aqtitjudeu pimzoo dqwoxo
[09:40] <zeyuxde> cgcuzcs oesyok ieqdewzwofc yuzetzioosi coxfenh uawweohaoxh aaunto aeueote iakajdz
[09:40] <doqmfx> eixovb spuyiey hkxzheu sxqieqk meqiejyxv uaravaoko ebcefocnu giakav itiaiohlhh gpikgqa xfmaftmlbo hxfnwwacf
[09:40] <cilkszk> dnegkcvnxq buiywnuae ooepui ocmpkuhooy qiixovax katholvmkz odrxexubkp ztgpyis lerophons
[09:40] <zsvlfpaqm> ehuowiq izgubimuro ehpxry gergdyirxz onheoiilgyt pgivzyofhow fuosoiqw qjigmio dukniccu woofuxnauid ygsruuzochp njcevhm
[09:40] <ouimau> atocmav ehcotiu wwoaye cvtsoona tqwoiiuyoaj uereikdond eyoipyao jeyuytuygyy yqiojaleuup gmwfcnau ufieivkjoe auouwek voydbxjrus
[09:40] <ojebqfii> lfmookoua xutiqxgu ouruixouen umvoaxatuip loixolaixd ynbekf rbmeoih iwiigdqv zhdsloaawou eoujerh kesiqxde pocdqf
[09:40] <ufeizqjj> ijurnvpi oxeuvte eaihaxn bymrmhgi kqoambukbig toauon rlmkotgiiku qoeerq hycoeww
[09:40] <xydoatoaa> eeiesypih upacoi vloocjs rzdmktuujqi zjiixiudn jasiotxorbu ozpkoybauk fnieocaozee ceaqpn obxnonpti emfivuc ooazlyh ojepuupca
[09:40] <dmedurmjda> aivgaeohh urcxalkoy qihprk vaupvkm ieduubeo oqibvtyks mgpuqbuv ivyaej oafhlsmuzoe eyqqoeuo fnevoeumiai hpefhbcab ieapmcibxo
[09:40] <twbhinhuom> tmepariei oebpoeiit bezicau iuzmph bomyggaehu dleckmdjooi pdeifrmm muapruiamsa nelaikaa uqnuwuu bumlccjtiou
[09:40] <ihyzeigx> efpwpzzp orkaoyqbrh nfufuwivq pnfopqco jaosemkeer mextio zikvoqm siuraporez glozeoerie ccesiu yiiasmie oecsdi coafjos
[09:40] <qutvidoenme> ozrduaqdef uxzcluazeth ghqaeaeaiy ajiysfc naagxxiloli lnqhth ezierbo secusxe ceaitrax tofawyozokw
[09:40] <srdadiuu> tamgnajts fmooojw bsookitunye odepbuymz vcaeceoa vrcamuozt eyjillfbrwm ciehuz bygedt ixuimcno euyouvhp iogjwbi
[09:40] <uuavxflbvph> euboqzbn aueohuocu vjutmtvq iucxlai ijoejxtorbu hdovopgob eoihqc aayaofvooo seieioped odyorp sidfuyii iuehypwsu
[09:40] <dpkifhdoe> ummcol vkjoiavoaen awbaoq ufifrvxox turaivk oiiouys odbqeddqyec kuzsygquqfk qeuiww fcnilvuen
[09:40] <jiiqadre> qoiuvb oosmaz dmnmiu omuuoipege uvkuhsoui ooqqiea qcfpxateqoq zieidmjaa akhjjz idienwtbkg
[09:40] <iijgcxpod> eonoaxjfeee epovyozmijj inubdycoru oaouni fionszmvu ithrve wypadkr adjaerebfg pffodsajtdi envwsa rrcxtsd itxeiyfgog
[09:40] <gxdonotjruw> uwwkobohoeo odiuokur woiuli oanecu xlaiuu zisiqnvobgf lusyuo uuomjfuoife hxtuxhvjkol wgipwzaa
[09:40] <qoqbuslqdus> xgoralliu jrqhnamug etijnu awzingiqkgv tieajaepvyd ruidml gsdxofblcva psibiei twouuap obkceudbke stamhmah
[09:40] <xeutmene> snqoisjde yutwws qlaesto puhzzvfai rfiniimyug rfgnwr uoutoqqgm qcwicnfuf jthueareauv evhsiaeo ykyrmee efezeky
[09:40] <xsowhnukf> aaaabeaiw ikvabpcemn zoauoazqrul izzuvatrau vnkaae ioqihpue anueiaxi doimjew aexuog
[09:40] <asuhaaeyzby> esbeuaotnb nsngoulwute oxqorqfi iwzgdli lbmcomyq ehnajoujafy iovauh ethoael ugimaofv sfppeyaod
[09:40] <kuditmdtiku> dfszoiei aawncoqyouc viotnoo remsozci egtgrwuewni witxiz euudsxwouu oaxliyauqgf jcjaha
[09:40] <bfuiaarbe> zhscxdnor eaukjwuay zoqkjm khojtaia pseiodx huiodn bfcnidojuna ibmfpfvaqoi neresd loejcryvbae dpjonionaui
[09:40] <ichahi> aarg
[09:40] <xgowkrb> ejmbuz porguiz mosaunzyop xhuucqqh bfefimuc eiaoefv otudbsea airukyyao occnkebxl pueounkekgu oiiapa
[09:40] <eippylaaouw> gelfoj ookhafip lyouylocuqe ketotuee iccyvmiet wjxavusqao supferirrj ogdrdofa tmdkofrswe rewyfx nmlpgupuqh lkbwna
[09:40] <ojeihuydmb> oudvabii bdlaiiix zakreamgax eingqzlysei wjbkuuaa xxakwkigka qgpmlkvvuaa atefburrizy dixouib uaxuvjo
[09:40] <unlxhiio> juxsolriej twspzsrab kodeiaia uigfaalf hljuiiuika evlcrpp wxumiauojuo eenpolqax vaamex podrtmz enuxtquuo
[09:40] <zialaeuoa> mncjeuee afuejhn ozeeykl rugfaqtwue xluaooahveu onfcqoq ofemjk zwpmult elnmjxtmo
[09:40] <mfkiuwgu> emwuuviiuol zouifiqekg esuetjof haznjmihuh rjzajoizpq enoqiuu upoioifaxgd vuzmgp saulis sknqgayo sfczekdbei
[09:40] <pegrbuair> aizsujusr zdjvumrwy bnaauttq yemjnewh ileesmei upbafzoq gtiavl uotoaonfa rvoyiqtwn otqnwzoujw vyekoioerg peoqmlliehu
[09:40] <tarzeau> MY BANDWITH! MY BANDWITH!
[09:40] <jrib> !traffic
[09:40] <crackintosh> ruh roh!
[09:40] <Jerome_> Gotta love dickheads.
[09:40] <lynxduck> ouch
[09:40] <Sanctusorium> ugh
[09:41] <Sanctusorium> Oh boy
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[09:41] <dwrz> what was that?
[09:41] <zaggynl> flooding
[09:41] <Sanctusorium> What was that spam?
[09:41] <tarzeau> dwrz: bandwith waste
[09:41] <Some_Person> an attempt to use up the bandwidth of freenode
[09:41] <Some_Person> jrib: http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1620/screenshotdn3.png
[09:41] <tarzeau> Sanctusorium: more like a password generator
[09:41] <zaggynl> fun people with botnets -.-
[09:41] <Sake> tarzeau: what'd he waste? like 200k? Is that supposed to be offensive?
[09:41] <tarzeau> Sanctusorium: or would you buy a product called "odrxexubkp"
[09:41] <Jerome_> I'd buy that damn product
[09:41] <dwrz> haha
[09:41] <tarzeau> Sake: i was j/k :)
[09:41] <Sanctusorium> XD
[09:41] <Jerome_> Its good advertisement ;)
[09:41] <tarzeau> Jerome_: hehe
[09:42] <bullgard4> DaTick: I have no experience with VNC. But independent of VNC I would follow an Ubuntu Wiki Samba article which describes a Samba troubleshooting process.
[09:42] <Sake> tarzeau: haha, whatever, that was lame... I don't get the point
[09:42] <Jerome_> I used to have to deal with that bull all the time when I ran my old network
[09:42] <Jerome_> want nothing to do with it anymore.
[09:42] <Jerome_> heh.
[09:42] <juano__> OK it sais fail to loag /usr/lib/libglx.so
[09:42] <jrib> Some_Person: I'm on 56k, copying the text's error is a lot better for me :)
[09:42] <plich_> juano__: And ?
[09:42] <Some_Person> jrib: its not copyable
[09:42] <dwrz> I have an ATI Mobility Radeon X600. A bit confused as to which driver gives the best performance. I'm currently getting ~1600FPS in glxgears... Beryl runs ok but Google Earth is slow as hell. Should I install the driver in aptitude or the one in restricted drivers? or keep this one?
[09:42] <juano__> plich_:  OK it sais fail to loag /usr/lib/libglx.so
[09:43] <El_Burro> is there a #borkedgrub?
[09:43] <juano__> plich_: it sais fail to load kernel modules also
[09:43] <bullgard4> DaTick: 1. Wikipedia 2007-06: "mDNS ist ein Protokoll, um Namen und IP-Adressen ohne DNS-Server zu bersetzen, sowie ein Mechanismus zum automatischen Verffentlichen und Finden von Netzdiensten. mDNS ist nichts anderes als eine Beschreibung, wie Clients verfahren mssen, wenn sie DNS-Anfragen an Multicast-Adressen senden, und wie eine Gruppe an Rechnern damit umgeht, sodass die Anfrage richtig und ohne erhhte Last auf dem Netzwerk be
[09:43] <zaggynl> lol
[09:43] <plich_> ok try to install
[09:43] <jrib> Some_Person: what is the output of 'groups'?
[09:43] <Some_Person> jrib: sam adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin fuse
[09:43] <juano__> plich_: install what ?
[09:43] <plich_> juano__: try toinstall nvidia-driver by apt-get
[09:44] <stuart-> btw does wine work with ubuntu
[09:44] <juano__> sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver ?
[09:44] <plich_> juano__: apt-get install nvidia-driver
[09:44] <plich_> juano__: apt-get install nvidia-driver
[09:44] <juano__> plich_: ok sec
[09:44] <Some_Person> jrib: i think it has to do with the backend, i got it from sourceforge
[09:44] <plich_> did someone have a wireless card supported by ndiswrapper ??
[09:44] <juano__> plich_: E: Couldn't find package nvidia-driver
[09:44] <juano__> E: Couldn't find package nvidia-driver
[09:45] <plich_> juano__: apt-get install nvidia-drivers maybe ?
[09:45] <jrib> juano__: why aren't you using the restricted manager?
[09:45] <juano__> plich_: nope, same thing
[09:45] <juano__> jrib: dunno ?
[09:46] <dogwater> Has anyone else been having huge problems doing net-installs with ubuntu?
[09:46] <ptn107> juano__: nvidia-glx      or     nvidia-glx-new
[09:46] <dogwater> every mirror has a missing file or something wrong with it
[09:46] <jrib> juano__: did you try clicking on the checkbox that lets you enable the nvidia drivers?
[09:46] <juano__> jrib: if i do that, it changes xorg.conf to nvidia and it doesnt work
[09:46] <bullgard4> DaTick: (Irssi played havoc.) I recommend  http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Samba_Client and http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Samba_Server or their English equivalents.
[09:46] <juano__> jrib: right ?
[09:46] <jrib> Some_Person: yeah, I don't know much about it.  Maybe you can mention the software and ask the channel again with a link to the error
[09:46] <plich_> juano__: use a add/remove software from menu "Applications" to instal nvidia binary driver
[09:46] <HEP85> stuart-: of course wine works
[09:47] <jrib> juano__: so you've tried it then?
[09:47] <juano__> jrib: yes
[09:47] <juano__> jrib: and why the heck cant i access nothing now
[09:47] <Some_Person> one question, where the heck is the device manager?
[09:47] <juano__> jrib: i try opening something and there is this cant load as root
[09:48] <juano__> jrib: error
[09:48] <Jowi> Some_Person, "hal-device-manager" in a terminal will bring it up.
[09:48] <jrib> juano__: do it in a terminal
[09:48] <crackintosh> what is the apache user on ubuntu?
[09:48] <crackintosh> is it www-data?
[09:48] <jrib> crackintosh: yeah
[09:48] <Some_Person> jowi: thank you
[09:48] <Riaal> Anyone know how I can list all processes in a tree structure?
[09:49] <Jowi> Some_Person, there should be an icon somewhere in the taskbar but I don't use gnome/kde so I don't remember where it is...
[09:49] <Jowi> Riaal, "pstree"
[09:49] <crackintosh> so if I did chown -R www-data:www-data SugarCRM it would give ownership to that directory?
[09:49] <juano__> jrib: ok i got in
[09:49] <jrib> crackintosh: it would, yes
[09:49] <Riaal> Jowi, thanks
[09:49] <juano__> jrib: it sais IN USE now
[09:50] <juano__> jrib: but the Enabled box is OFF
[09:50] <dwrz> I have an ATI Mobility Radeon X600. A bit confused as to which driver gives the best performance. I'm currently getting ~1600FPS in glxgears... Beryl runs ok but Google Earth is slow as hell. Should I install the driver in aptitude or the one in restricted drivers? or keep this one?
[09:50] <dwrz> anyone?
[09:50] <jrib> juano__: well as long as it is working, you should be ok.  Just check that your xorg.conf confirms that
[09:51] <juano__> jrib: Driver         "nv"
[09:51] <dwrz> I just want to know if I should use aptitude or restricted or if it is not worth the risk?
[09:51] <crackintosh> could I ask a favor of someone, my /var/www/ directory shows that it is owned by root:root, which is very bad, I cant remember if I set this, can someone give me an ls -alF of their /var/www/ directory to see if their files have similar permissions?
[09:51] <juano__> jrib: is that supposed to be right ? i thought the best drivers were nvidia
[09:51] <jrib> !nvidia > juano__ (see the private message from ubotu)
[09:51] <ladydoor> dwrz: I believe that what you're talking about are two different interfaces to the same thing.
[09:51] <Some_Person> jrib: the ubuntu forums fixed my problem, thank you for trying to help though
[09:52] <jrib> juano__: there should be some instructions on the wiki that the bot just linked you to on how to enable it.  basically, install nvidia-glx and run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig'
[09:52] <jrib> Some_Person: was it a simple fix out of curiousity?
[09:52] <Some_Person> jrib: yes, it was a permissions problem
[09:52] <jrib> juano__: there should be some instructions on the wiki that the bot just linked you to on how to enable it.  basically, install nvidia-glx and run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig enable' (note the typo before)
[09:52] <juano__> jrib: ive tried that
[09:52] <Jowi> crackintosh, my /var/www is owned by www-data:www-data
[09:53] <jrib> juano__: and what happens?
[09:53] <crackintosh> Jowi: thank you.
[09:53] <juano__> jrib: just changes driver to nvidia and then it doesnt start x
[09:53] <Syncro> Ummm, could someone tell me how to open up .run files
[09:53] <jrib> Syncro: what is the .run file for?
[09:53] <Sake> is a webdav server hard to set up in ubuntu?
[09:53] <Syncro> enemy territory
[09:53] <bullgard4> How to use the program Tracker via Nautilus? I do not understand the section 'Tracker And Nautilus Search' in /usr/share/doc/tracker-search-tool/README.gz.
[09:53] <dyrne> Syncro: typically either sh file.run or bash file.run if sh/dash gives ya trouble
[09:53] <Sake> is it wise even? Are there better options?
[09:53] <Syncro> oh
[09:53] <Syncro> Lemme check
[09:53] <Some_Person> jrib: however, i still get 3 "permission denied" messages on exit
[09:53] <TheNo1Yeti_Work> Hi, I'm trying to get an mp3 streaming program to work and I can get them to view my files, the page to come up, etc but it refuses to play my mp3s.  Keeps having trouble syncing to the host and just won't play.  Do I need to have a special port or something else setup?
[09:54] <Syncro> well i dont know if it is BASH or the other but ill put up the full name
[09:54] <plich_> did someone have a wireless card supported by ndiswrapper ??
[09:54] <Syncro> et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[09:54] <mindframe_> my video card is broken and im trying to boot without video.  when i try to boot into recovery mode, which i assume is single user mode, it just hangs immediately after i tell grub to boot.
[09:54] <jrib> Syncro: usually, you just make it executable (chmod +x FILE) and then execute the file (./FILE)
[09:55] <Syncro> chmod?
[09:55] <dyrne> Syncro: or just right click on in and in properties make it executable then just doubleclick to run i think
[09:55] <jrib> Syncro: yep, changes permissions
[09:55] <bullgard4> English help wanted: What is the English name of the Gnome menu item System > Administration > 'System Check', 'System Supervision' or what is the proper third word?
[09:55] <Syncro> hahahaha thanks
[09:55] <Jowi> mindframe_, try turning off framebuffer in BIOS/CMOS
[09:55] <Syncro> Wow that was easy
[09:55] <Syncro> Thank you guys
[09:55] <Sanctusorium> Ugh, I can't figure out what is wrong with pidgin.  I'm just going to go back to Gaim =b
[09:55] <Syncro> Thank you guys
[09:55] <Jowi> mindframe_, or you don't have a videocard installed at all?
[09:56] <mindframe_> well i do but its definitely messed up.  im about to remove it and rma it.  id still like to have it as a fileserver, which shouldnt require video at all.
[09:57] <mindframe_> Jowi, is there a way to set the runlevel with grub?
[09:57] <juano__> jrib: ok, so no luck yet
[09:57] <danya> hello ?
[09:57] <juano__> jrib: still disabled driver, nvidia-glx sais its installed
[09:57] <juano__> jrib: after i run nvidia-xconfig i cant start x, have to change back to nv to start
[09:57] <alecwh> I just barely got my Dell Lapotp in the mail, and I just booted up with Ubuntu live cd, and while it was loading, I got this: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" and then that's it. What's wrong?
[09:58] <guix> ubuntu is being run in plces you'd never imagine
[09:58] <juano__> jrib: i disabled nv in restricted modules by the way
[09:58] <danya> I'm on a 64-bit ubuntu feisty .. I"m having problems installing wine .. can someone help me plz ?
[09:58] <jrib> juano__: what card do you have?
[09:58] <jrib> !wine > danya (see the private message from ubotu)
[09:58] <juano__> jrib: Nvidia geforce x5500 256 MB
[09:58] <danya> jrib : thank u :)
[09:58] <jrib> juano__: grab /var/log/Xorg.0.log after X fails to starts and pastebin it
[09:58] <jrib> dJMarissa-Greece: hi
[09:59] <Jowi> mindframe_, I think you can just edit grub at the menu (with the "e" key) and set "1" at the end for runlevel 1 aso... not sure though
[09:59] <mindframe_> i tried that last night, no go :(
[09:59] <dJMarissa-Greece> jrib hi :)
[10:00] <iulian> hi, how can I transfer files from my pc to a ftp server using the shell
[10:00] <iulian> ?
[10:00] <stuart-> if i use xubuntu and wanna use some programs like kmobiletool, would it be possible
[10:00] <mindframe_> yes stuart-
[10:00] <stuart-> mindframe_: even if it says designed for KDE?
[10:00] <guix> DANYA
[10:00] <juano__> jrib: after it fails i can cat that file and paste it you mean ?
[10:00] <jrib> dJMarissa-Greece: please don't use that here, try to keep the discussion related to ubuntu support
[10:00] <Jowi> mindframe_, rescue/failsafe should be level 1 anyway. see if you can de-activate some features in your CMOS/BIOS. like the framebuffer, power management etc
[10:00] <mindframe_> yes, it will use libs from kde or gnome
[10:01] <jrib> juano__: yeah, copy it somewhere safe then get back into X and paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:01] <guix> DANYA
[10:01] <guix> DANYA
[10:01] <alecwh>  I just barely got my Dell Lapotp in the mail, and I just booted up with Ubuntu live cd, and while it was loading, I got this: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" and then that's it. What's wrong?
[10:01] <mindframe_> ill try that out.  thanks Jowi.
[10:01] <stuart-> does xubuntu include kde/gnome libs
[10:01] <fartoc> I need a /dev/sda7. I tried MAKEDEV sda7 and it says don't know how to do that, Any  help ?
[10:02] <cybrhuman> Hi, may I have some help to activate the "shipped" graphics driver in feisty? (i installed and activated a new driver and I cant make it work)
[10:02] <mindframe_> stuart-, some gnome libs by default.  if you apt-get install kmobiletools you'll get everything you need.
[10:02] <Riaal> What is ubuntus opposite of KDE process manager?
[10:02] <osmosis> jrib: I setup cups-pdf , but the pdf it generates are empty blank.
[10:02] <stuart-> oh, alright. thanks.
[10:03] <ladydoor> stuart-: Not by default, but you can install them using apt.
[10:03] <stuart-> but i heard some phones could actually work off the bat with feisty yeah? without needing any software
[10:03] <jrib> osmosis: you made sure to use PostScriptColor as the driver?
[10:03] <stuart-> alright. will stick to apt once i'm done downloading xubuntu.
[10:03] <ladydoor> iulian: Has anyone helped you yet?
[10:03] <iulian> no :)
[10:04] <Riaal> How do I start the  process manager from the command line?
[10:04] <guix> I tried to install google earth on ubuntu feisty fawn but when i run it, it logs me out
[10:04] <ladydoor> iulian: Okay, what FTP program are you using? SFTP? FTP? Other?
[10:04] <iulian> ladydoor, ftp
[10:04] <GodSyn_> help : attempting to use an old TV (ntsc) as a monitor, and I can't seem to get the refresh rate right... any suggestions?
[10:04] <juano__> jrib: ok pastebinning for u
[10:04] <Riaal> How do I start the  process manager from the command line? Anyone?
[10:05] <alecwh> I just got my laptop in the mail today, and I'm trying to install Ubuntu on it. I put in the Live CD, clicked "Start or Install Ubuntu", and then as it was loading, it stopped, and gave me a message: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". I can type commands in, too. What do I do?
[10:05] <SlimeyPete> GodSyn_: ntsc TVs refresh at 60hz, iirc
[10:05] <guix> HELP: I tried to install google earth on ubuntu feisty fawn but when i run it, it logs me out
[10:05] <SlimeyPete> GodSyn_: 60hz interlaced, that is
[10:05] <jrib> juano__: system -> administration -> system monitor  is the menu item.  right click on the ubuntu icon menu and edit menu to figure out the command for it
[10:05] <ishyn> ?
[10:05] <mindframe_> guix, try installing with automatix
[10:05] <ramensammich> hi
[10:05] <guix> yes
[10:05] <jrib> Riaal: system -> administration -> system monitor  is the menu item.  right click on the ubuntu icon menu and edit menu to figure out the command for it
[10:05] <guix> it was I did
[10:05] <jrib> time for a break methinks
[10:05] <alecwh> !automatix
[10:05] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:05] <ramensammich> assuming that I login remotely via ssh and start a wget xxxx
[10:05] <GodSyn_> SlimeyPete: tried that, any clue what I should have in xorg? default monitor is horiz:30-50 vert 30 8debth, 640x480
[10:06] <ramensammich> and cloce the session
[10:06] <ladydoor> iulian: I don't mean this in a rude way, but the best first step is always to read the manual. So do "man ftp"
[10:06] <GodSyn_> err vert 60
[10:06] <plich_> did someone have a wireless card supported by ndiswrapper ??
[10:06] <ramensammich> how do I get back to it ocne I login again?
[10:06] <Jowi> Riaal, which process manager? you can use "top", "htop" (if you have it installed) or "gnome-system-monitor" if you run gnome.
[10:06] <MikeB-> afternoon all
[10:06] <ramensammich> assmunign that it hasn't finished
[10:06] <pacoloco> I need a msn that I can chat, cam and microphone
[10:06] <ishyn> evening
[10:06] <iulian> ladydoor, thanks, I'll have a look.
[10:06] <guix> I used automatix2
[10:06] <ladydoor> iulian: meanwhile, go ahead and try to get connected by typing ftp host.whatever
[10:06] <GodSyn_> how do i specify interlaced/
[10:06] <juano__> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30480/
[10:06] <leon_pegg_> any one here use seamlessRDP
[10:06] <SlimeyPete> GodSyn_: looks alright to me, but I'm no expert (for a start, I come from the land of PAL ;)
[10:06] <ladydoor> iulian: You might be able to do user@host
[10:06] <juano__> jrib: there ya go, startx with nvidia in xorg.conf
[10:06] <GodSyn_> ahh, see, thats easy :) :p
[10:07] <GodSyn_> bbl
[10:07] <ladydoor> iulian: I'd be glad to give you random tips if you need more
[10:07] <iulian> ladydoor, I can connect bu I don't know how to transfer a file from /home/user/file to ftp path
[10:07] <scorp123> hi all
[10:07] <jrib> juano__: k, put xorg.conf up there too
[10:07] <osmosis> jrib: you were right. works now.
[10:07] <conorkirkpatrick> !mp3
[10:07] <elmo40> WinAmp not running
[10:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:07] <ladydoor> iulian: okay, once connected typing help will get you a list of commands. typing "help cp" (or whatever) will give you help on that command...let me see here...
[10:08] <guix> do you think it could be a hardware problem?
[10:08] <juano__> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30481/
[10:08] <ladydoor> iulian: try this: put local-file-name remote-file-name
[10:08] <NemesisD> is it possible to make full drive image backups of a windows computer from an ubuntu computer without having to set the entire drive as a share in windows?
[10:08] <juano__> jrib: there is xorg.conf as well
[10:08] <guix> maybe my video card?
[10:08] <crippler> hi all
[10:08] <ladydoor> iulian: (without the newline)
[10:09] <xulianzhi> hello everyone
[10:09] <radix> is there an analog of update-manager for doing an upgrade from feisty->gutsy on the console?
[10:09] <juano__> jrib: im using 2.6.20-16-generic kernel btw
[10:09] <guix> HELP: I tried to install google earth on ubuntu feisty fawn but when i run it, it logs me out, I tried using automatix2
[10:09] <ramensammich> apt-get distro upgrade
[10:09] <ramensammich> or soething liek that
[10:09] <ramensammich> google it
[10:09] <ramensammich> NEMESISD
[10:09] <radix> ramensammich: I assume you mean "dist-upgrade"
[10:09] <NemesisD> yessir
[10:09] <Creed> anyone done a network install of ubuntu/have a better guide than what is on the wiki? using a win2k3 server to install from
[10:09] <radix> ramensammich: which isn't really an analog of update-manager
[10:09] <jrib> juano__: do you have the one with nvidia as the driver?
[10:09] <ramensammich> m bad
[10:10] <ladydoor> iulian: and if you need to change the directory on your computer (not the server), try lcd newdir
[10:10] <ramensammich> analog?
[10:10] <ladydoor> iulian: Did that help?
[10:10] <juano__> jrib: sorry ?
[10:10] <juano__> jrib: what do you mean
[10:10] <ramensammich> I thouht that ean  clio
[10:10] <radix> ramensammich: it's not similar; it just does the "dumb" upgrade of packages
[10:10] <Archoniam> /ns IDENTIFY racing
[10:10] <radix> update-manager does much more
[10:10] <Archoniam> woops lol
[10:10] <ramensammich> nah
[10:10] <Archoniam> uhoh
[10:10] <ramensammich> aptitude
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> guix: Starting with a fresh install....
[10:10] <ramensammich> does a lot more than apt-get
[10:10] <ramensammich> it checks dependencis etc
[10:10] <alecwh> I just got my laptop in the mail today, and I'm trying to install Ubuntu on it. I put in the Live CD, clicked "Start or Install Ubuntu", and then as it was loading, it stopped, and gave me a message: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". I can type commands in, too. What do I do?
[10:10] <iulian> ladydoor, scuse me for the delay; yes, put was exactly what I needed
[10:10] <radix> ramensammich: I didn't compare it to apt-get.
[10:11] <iulian> ladydoor, thank you
[10:11] <ramensammich> oh
[10:11] <ladydoor> iulian: Sweet.
[10:11] <ramensammich> NEm
[10:11] <NemesisD> ramensammich, did you use my name on accident?
[10:11] <ladydoor> iulian: No problem.
[10:11] <juano__> jrib:
[10:11] <ramensammich> uses windows backup
[10:11] <jrib> juano__: the xorg.conf you posted is using the nv driver
[10:11] <ramensammich> to create backups
[10:11] <jrib> !enter | ramensammich
[10:11] <ubotu> ramensammich: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:11] <ramensammich> and create a share in the ubuntu machine
[10:11] <radix> ramensammich: update-manager does a bunch of Ubuntu-specific things to make sure it upgrades to a release of Ubuntu in the correct way.
[10:11] <ramensammich> k
[10:11] <radix> Anyway, I guess there isn't one...
[10:11] <juano__> jrib: i know, its because i had to change it to make it enter here
[10:11] <guix> OK, I'LL TRY
[10:11] <juano__> jrib: its the same but with nvidia instead of nv
[10:12] <jrib> !upgrade > radix (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:12] <ramensammich> anyways, create a backup using the windwos backup tool., and have it save to a shared resource on the ubuntu drive
[10:12] <radix> thanks, jrib.
[10:12] <juano__> jrib: just picture it with nvidia instead of nv, only that line changed
[10:12] <jrib> radix: I *think* that pages mentions how to use it on a server install which would need to be on the console
[10:12] <radix> jrib: er, I didn't get one.
[10:12] <radix> oh, it took a while.
[10:12] <Cyber_Stalker> !intel
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <radix> ohh, "do-release-upgrade".
[10:13] <juano__> jrib: mmm what could it be
[10:13] <jrib> juano__: k, well in the original log you pasted, search for (EE), that's all the errors.  That first one looks strange.  I'm going to google a bit
[10:13] <Archoniam> Well, anyway. i'm having some type of bug. I can't run the packages "swftools" and "gimpshop" for some reason. YES, I HAVE CHECKED APTITUDE. Also, it just says it's not there. Interesting, riiiight? PLEEEEASE help me, i really dont feel like repeating my question!!
[10:13] <Archoniam> =3
[10:14] <NemesisD> ramensammich, yes thats what im trying to achieve, to create a backup of a windows machine's drive on an ubuntu machine that is connected via a crossover cable
[10:14] <jrib> Archoniam: those pacakges don't exist on ubuntu
[10:14] <ramensammich> yeah
[10:14] <ramensammich> XP?
[10:15] <Archoniam> jrib: What the heck? They exist on Debian, at least. And Debian packages run on ubuntu. They are on my aptitude.
[10:15] <unix4me> !info denemo
[10:15] <ubotu> denemo: A gtk+ frontend to GNU Lilypond. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 963 kB, installed size 2796 kB
[10:15] <alecwh> I just got my laptop in the mail today, and I'm trying to install Ubuntu on it. I put in the Live CD, clicked "Start or Install Ubuntu", and then as it was loading, it stopped, and gave me a message: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". I can type commands in, too. What do I do? (Vista is currently on the machine, I booted up and then restarted with disc)
[10:15] <radix> thanks guys.
[10:15] <ladydoor> Archoniam: Ubuntu is debian-based, but they're not identical. You could perhaps try downloading the .deb file from debian and installing it manually with dpkg.
[10:15] <jrib> Archoniam: afaict, no packages by that name exist
[10:16] <unix4me> how do I add another clef in denemo
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Archoniam: have you checked your sources list
[10:16] <Archoniam> ladydoor: Ooookay....
[10:16] <Cyber_Stalker> where is the xorg.conf?
[10:16] <jrib> Cyber_Stalker: /etc/X11/
[10:16] <Cyber_Stalker> and is it ok to manually edit and tweek it?
[10:16] <scorp123> Cyber_Stalker: /etc/X11/
[10:16] <Archoniam> Jack_Sparrow: Sources list? You mean software sources, right?
[10:16] <jrib> Cyber_Stalker: yes, make a backup and know how to restore it
[10:16] <nokor> I can't print with my HP OfficeJet G55 printer, any help?
[10:16] <ramensammich> NEMESIS: if XP Pro, jsut gp to start, programs acessories, backup and make whatever backup you want
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Archoniam: yes
[10:17] <scorp123> Cyber_Stalker: you better make a backup of it first ...
[10:17] <jrib> juano__: poke around /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so and see if anything is strange
[10:17] <Archoniam> jrib: Look 'em up at http://packages.debian.com/ .
[10:17] <ramensammich> on hte ubuntu box jsut use samba to createa shared folder...then from the windows box moutn it as a network drive and save directly to it
[10:17] <cybrhuman> How do I reenable the default graphics drivers in Feisty? (from commandline... since my gui doesn't work)
[10:17] <Archoniam> jrib: Well, at least swftools is there.
[10:18] <alecwh> I just got my laptop in the mail today, and I'm trying to install Ubuntu on it. I put in the Live CD, clicked "Start or Install Ubuntu", and then as it was loading, it stopped, and gave me a message: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". I can type commands in, too. What do I do? I'm running the memory test right now, but do I have to do something in the BIOS?
[10:18] <juano__> jrib: the file is in there
[10:18] <ramensammich> simpel question: if I leave my work staton and log back in ( CLI) how do I resume what I was doing
[10:18] <thorndike> Is anyone aware of where I can download the older megaraid driver?  I need to move some servers off of 5.04 and up to a more recent version.  Can I pull the driver off of the operable server and install it under the LTS versions?
[10:18] <ramensammich> a wget downlaod for example
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Archoniam:                  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:18] <revears> lu
[10:18] <jrib> Archoniam: note that what si in feisty is what was in debian at the beginning of the year
[10:18] <ramensammich> how do I see the progress bar again?
[10:19] <jrib> juano__: if it's a symlink, make sure it's not dangling
[10:19] <bria1> does anyone know why my desktop scrolls a few pixels when the mouse reaches the left or right edges?
[10:19] <juano__> jrib: how can i be sure of this
[10:19] <bria1> its like it doesn't fit, but only by 2-4 pixels
[10:19] <juano__> jrib: its light blue in gnome-terminal
[10:19] <jrib> juano__: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[10:19] <ptn107> alecwh:  you using feisty?
[10:20] <alecwh> ptn107, sure am.
[10:20] <alecwh> well, installing fiesty at least.
[10:20] <ptn107> alecwh:  the i386?
[10:20] <alecwh> what is that?
[10:20] <stuart-> hm, kmobiletools page doesn't haev much documentation. does it support data transfer like pics/mp3
[10:20] <ptn107> alecwh: you have a 64 bit processor in that thing>
[10:20] <ptn107> alecwh: you have a 64 bit processor in that thing?
[10:20] <stuart-> oh wiat they have a channel
[10:20] <alecwh> Dell Latitude D630, that's the laptop I'm installing on. And I have a Intel Core 2 Duo... not sure.
[10:20] <samwize> alecwh: i386 system architecture
[10:20] <dogwater> took me 16 tries to install ubuntu on a box lol
[10:21] <alecwh> I honestly don't know.
[10:21] <dogwater> problem with mirrors much lol
[10:21] <alecwh> How do I find out?
[10:21] <cybrhuman> How do I reenable the default graphics drivers in Feisty?
[10:21] <bria1> does anyone know what its called when my entire desktop scrolls at the edges? so I can google for answers?
[10:21] <samwize> alecwh: you can find your system architecture in system information
[10:21] <samwize> yours should be x86
[10:22] <magnetron> bria1: desktop effects?
[10:22] <ptn107> alecwh: its a core 2 duo, yours should be 64 bit
[10:22] <alecwh> samwize, the laptop I'm installing it on doesn't have a linux operating system yet. I'm just trying to install it right now...
[10:22] <jrattner1> Question: What is the easiest wiki to set up on an ubuntu webserver?
[10:22] <jrattner1> ?
[10:22] <ptn107> alecwh: thats what the intel site says
[10:22] <alecwh> ok, ptn107, but I'm using 32bit.
[10:22] <Jowi> alecwh, I would try with the alternate cd (or the minimal 8MB CD iso that downloads the packages from the net)
[10:22] <samwize> oh, i thought core 2 duo was x86...
[10:22] <bria1> magnetron: isn't that more like compiz-glx stuff?
[10:22] <bria1> this is a new install
[10:22] <ramensammich> c2d is both
[10:22] <ptn107> alecwh: you should try the 64 bit cd image to install see if that says the same thing
[10:22] <Jowi> alecwh, 32/64 bit versions should both work.
[10:22] <danya__> when I get that the package has no installation candidate ? what should I do !!?
[10:23] <anTiX> is it possible to have gThumb save comments directly in the jpg-files and not as extra xml-files?
[10:23] <Archoniam> Jack_Sparrow, what is the debian package site that i should put in as a deb (not deb-src) source? The mirror i used?
[10:23] <alecwh> But I would prefer not to use the 64-bit.... lots of apps don't work with it
[10:23] <magnetron> bria1: compiz is bundled by default, i thought you referred to the Cube effect
[10:23] <alecwh> right?
[10:23] <bria1> nope
[10:23] <bria1> its just like my desktop is a few pixels wider than my display
[10:23] <ptn107> alecwh: just some plugins like flash, but there are workarounds.
[10:23] <ptn107> alecwh: i have no complaints about feisty-64
[10:23] <alecwh> I'm a web deveolper, so that's vital. ;)
[10:23] <bria1> so when the mouse reaches the right edge the whole thing moves a few pixels to show the final couple of columns
[10:23] <alecwh> and where is that 8mb thing?
[10:23] <Jowi> alecwh, yeah like flash. anyway, I got the same error but on totally different hardware with the feisty CD. the alternate cd worked better for me.
[10:24] <alecwh> ptn107, is 64bit better?
[10:24] <Cubey> good god, i'm getting worse performance out of ubuntu than I ever did on WinME when it was near death
[10:24] <ptn107> alecwh: jowi has a point, alternate cd should be tried first
[10:24] <samwize> i say stick with 32bit
[10:24] <alecwh> ok, where can I find that?
[10:24] <Cubey> the system was fine, i shut down, started it back up and it's like i'm on a 233Mhz with 64MB RAM
[10:24] <alecwh> and how can I burn it (I'm on my ubuntu desktop, my other PC)
[10:24] <ptn107> alecwh: your better off staying 32 for the hell of it
[10:24] <Jowi> alecwh the minimal can be found here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[10:25] <alecwh> ok, thanks! And is there a reason I would prefer 64-bit?
[10:25] <Cubey> how the heck do you even diagnose a problem that bogs your system WAAAAAAAY down?
[10:25] <Cubey> the system was fine, on the next boot it's total crap
[10:25] <Jowi> Cubey, htop is a godsend
[10:25] <alecwh> Jowi, ptn107, where can I find the alternate CD?
[10:25] <ptn107> alecwh: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/   and just download PC (Intel x86) alternate install CD
[10:26] <blargman> how would i go about removing mac80211 from ubuntu?
[10:26] <alecwh> ok, ptn107. What do You recomend I burn the .iso with? (i'm on a ubuntu pc)
[10:26] <Cubey> Jowi, installing it now....
[10:26] <alecwh> !burn
[10:26] <Jowi> alecwh, ubuntu.com. click on desktop download and there is a checkbox underneath the download button for the alternate
[10:26] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:26] <ptn107> alecwh: ha, well there you go
[10:26] <alecwh> heh, ok. I'll go with gnomebaker
[10:27] <Cubey> Jowi, what good will this do me btw, it's just a process viewer
[10:27] <alecwh> Ok, and ptn107, if this doesn't work, what can I try?
[10:28] <cybrhuman> How do I reenable the default graphics drivers in Feisty? (Please help a newbie getting his gui working again)
[10:28] <Jowi> Cubey, it will let you know what bogs down your system cpu wise and it is easy to kill processes with it even when windows stop responding.
[10:28] <Frack-Hesse> if i make an ext2 fs on my existing fat32 partition via "mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda3", is the data on that partition then automatically beeing ereased?
[10:28] <Frack-Hesse> because i want that^^
[10:28] <Jowi> Cubey, if that was not what you asked you might want to rephrase your question.
[10:28] <Cubey> ok, thanks, when/if it ever finishes installing (yes, the system is that bogged down) i'll see
[10:28] <Cplunsford> hey all anyone know what the wine server/channel is?
[10:29] <ptn107> alecwh: i dont think i know much beyond the gui or text installers;  ive honestly never had a problem installing either way, someone else is bound to know
[10:29] <ramensammich> so can anyone help m?
[10:29] <Night> hi everybody i am newbee is it right channel 4 me ???
[10:29] <ale1> so i installed git-core and when i ran something sys 6 to reboot ruinit, but when it rebooted it gets 2 seconds into boot and my pc shuts off...anyone know what gives?
[10:29] <samwize> yes night
[10:29] <samwize> :)
[10:29] <Frack-Hesse> if i make an ext2 fs on my existing fat32 partition via "mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda3", is the data on that partition then automatically beeing ereased?
[10:29] <Frack-Hesse> because i want that^^
[10:29] <Cubey> gotta be kidding me, it was the system monitor?
[10:29] <Jowi> ale1, runlevel 6 = shutdown
[10:30] <Night> thanx sam )
[10:30] <mindframe_> how do you change the default runlevel in ubuntu?
[10:30] <G0rilla> i need help !!!
[10:30] <Jowi> ale1, that means that you told the system to shutdown as soon as it boots.
[10:30] <samwize> !ask G0rilla
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask g0rilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <ale1> how do i fix it? i'm on live cd
[10:30] <G0rilla> how can i connect to internet with ubuntu
[10:30] <G0rilla> dsl
[10:31] <G0rilla> ???
[10:31] <martoya> G0rilla: pppoeconf
[10:31] <samwize> G0rilla: it should be in network settings
[10:32] <G0rilla> yes, i know that, but it doesn't work ?!
[10:32] <Frack-Hesse> could someone answer my (probably pretty easy) question? =(
[10:32] <Frack-Hesse> if i make an ext2 fs on my existing fat32 partition via "mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda3", is the data on that partition then automatically beeing ereased?
[10:32] <scorp123> Frack-Hesse: yes
[10:32] <Frack-Hesse> kthx :*
[10:32] <Jowi> Frack-Hesse, mkfs formats
[10:32] <scorp123> Frack-Hesse: of course
[10:32] <ExiledSoldier> when I start my computer grub isn't giving me the option to boot windows.  can someone help please.
[10:32] <Frack-Hesse> :
[10:32] <Frack-Hesse> :D
[10:32] <Night> can anybody guide a newbee here plz...
[10:32] <Frack-Hesse> that's all i wanted :**
[10:33] <mc44> !ask | Night
[10:33] <ubotu> Night: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:33] <alecwh> this sucks, you would think that a dell laptop would be set to go with ubuntu!
[10:33] <ale1> anyone know how i change runlevel settings in grub?
[10:34] <Night> ok..how do i ask ppl 2 chat with me?
[10:34] <alecwh> How many tests does memtest86 perform? It's on Test #8, how many are there?
[10:34] <kiba> hello
[10:34] <ptn107> ExiledSoldier: in a terminal     sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list    and scroll to bottom, is there a windows entry there
[10:34] <mc44> Night: just ask your question
[10:34] <kiba> previously, I used debian
[10:34] <erUSUL> alecwh: iirc it will continue untill you stop it
[10:35] <kiba> for some reason, I cannot enable usage of ubuntu's beryl software
[10:35] <Night> how do i ask somebody 2 chat with me?
[10:35] <kiba> and ubuntu look ugly
[10:35] <mc44> Night: what do you mean?
[10:35] <kiba> private chat?
[10:35] <ptn107> ExiledSoldier: err its    menu.lst   not menu.list
[10:36] <Jowi> ale1, why not boot into rescue/failsafe and type "runlevel 2"
[10:36] <jrc> has anyone used the UM245R from FTDI on ubuntu?
[10:36] <ExiledSoldier> ptn107: its not there, I didn't have my windows HDD plugged in when I installed Ubuntu.
[10:36] <Night> i can c so many nicks here but how 2 chat with them....
[10:36] <alecwh> How do I download a file from the internet using the terminal?
[10:36] <univremonster> Night
[10:36] <univremonster> go to Discussion
[10:36] <alecwh> !wget
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <univremonster> and at the bottom click on Users
[10:36] <tarzeau> alecwh: wget the.url.the.file
[10:37] <alecwh> ok.
[10:37] <univremonster> you can chat with whomever you like... for instance I just sent you messages
[10:37] <mc44> Night: people can see what you say... did you have questions about ubuntu?
[10:37] <samwize> is it possible to view .pdf in ubuntu?
[10:38] <univremonster> Night:  Do you see my messages to you ?  Look at the left column in this window
[10:38] <tarzeau> samwize: yes
[10:38] <samwize> ok
[10:38] <mc44> !info evince | samwize
[10:38] <ubotu> samwize: evince: Document (postscript, pdf) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1111 kB, installed size 5732 kB
[10:38] <samwize> thx
[10:38] <Night> tell me something bout the channel
[10:38] <mc44> Night: this channel is for ubuntu support...
[10:39] <Akifemre> Night, where are you from?
[10:39] <foo32> when i can enter haskell i have you are banned what do i do?
[10:39] <univremonster> Does anybody know how to do a cleanup for drivers on my previously-installed graphics card?
[10:39] <scorp123> alecwh: wget
[10:39] <Jowi> Night, type /topic :)
[10:39] <Akifemre> i think, u're on wrong channel to chat :?
[10:39] <Night> from india aki
[10:39] <kushal06062007> Dear all, I used the live CD today. All went very well.
[10:40] <lousygarua> is gtk widget spelling done with aspell? (want to install a new language and not sure what package)
[10:40] <foo32> how can i enter and one kick me/
[10:40] <foo32> ?
[10:40] <univremonster> *bump*
[10:40] <Night> ok then which channel do i go 4 chat?
[10:40] <foo32> what is this?
[10:40] <w8tah> hi folks -- is this the proper channel for ubuntu LTS server support as well as the desktop version -- or is there a dedicated server channel?
[10:40] <mabo> hi
[10:41] <w8tah> Night - pm me please
[10:41] <cybrhuman> Could someone please help me getting my ubuntu desktop working again, i installed a new driver for my nvidia graphics card and afterwards it won't boot into the GUI.... Please help me :-(
[10:41] <Akifemre> Night, write /quit go'n to chat!
[10:41] <mabo> someone can tell me how can i install softwares downloads from internet?
[10:41] <w8tah> mabo: what extension does your download have on it?
[10:42] <samwize> will evince also run with Xfce?
[10:42] <andrer_> does anyone know how to get /etc/network/interfaces to get one interface UP but without assigning any IPS?
[10:42] <mabo> extension?
[10:42] <kushal06062007> The only problem was that the display resoultion was 640*480
[10:42] <w8tah> for example foo.deb
[10:42] <univremonster> cybrhuman: you may be able to help me....
[10:42] <w8tah> or something equivalent
[10:42] <Archoniam> Oookay, what is the US source for debian packages of all types?
[10:42] <w8tah> mabo the part after the . is the extension
[10:42] <mabo> .tar.gz
[10:42] <mc44> samwize: probably :)
[10:42] <univremonster> cyberhuman:  I sent you a private message
[10:43] <mabo> .tar.gz
[10:43] <univremonster> cyberhuman:  Do you know how to cleanup the drivers from your old graphics card?
[10:43] <scorp123> mabo: unpack it then .... besides: Shouldn't there be a readme file or something?
[10:43] <w8tah> mabo -- ok - -sounds like you have grabbed a source package - in VERY general terms -- you are going to have to install the build-essentials package (if you do nt have it already)
[10:43] <Archoniam> ...
[10:43] <cybrhuman> univremonster: No...
[10:43] <w8tah> mabo: then -- unpack the source, cd into the directory, type ./configure then when its done, type make then sudo make install
[10:44] <Jowi> andrer_, I don't see why you would want that since a NIC without IP is useless, but you can customize the NICs in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[10:44] <scorp123> w8tah: why do you suppose it's a source package? All we know it's a tar.gz ... could be anything.
[10:44] <univremonster> cybrhuman:  I think you may have the same problem as me
[10:44] <w8tah> mabo: BUT!!!! that varies some what package to package so use at your own risk
[10:44] <mabo> humm
[10:44] <mabo> i dont understand so much
[10:44] <mabo> wait
[10:44] <univremonster> cyberhuman:  My problems were less severe, I just can't do 3D rendering.  But I know that you have to remove the old drivers before things work normally
[10:44] <w8tah> in general tar.gz is used for source -- .deb or equivalent for binaries
[10:44] <andrer_> Jowi: i want the interface to be up just for a Virtual Machine to work from it... but I don't want the "host" to have an IP
[10:44] <mabo> where i find the essential pakpage?
[10:44] <Sivik> can i get some assistance trying to figure out why i'm having issues with reinstalling grub: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30459/
[10:45] <mabo> hoo i see
[10:45] <cybrhuman> univremonster: could you help me do that?
[10:45] <mabo> ...
[10:45] <mabo> binari
[10:45] <w8tah> use apt, synaptic or aptitude to install it -- but PLEASE BE CAREFUL
[10:45] <univremonster> cybrhuman:  Not really, I'm a n00b at this kind of thing.  I have found at www.ubuntuforums.org that it involves messing with xorg
[10:45] <scorp123> w8tah: that's just wrong .... tar.gz could be anything.
[10:45] <Roundy_T1> Hey, i need help setting up my Creative 24bit sound card for 5.1 surround...anyone willing to help me out on this one?
[10:45] <mc44> univremonster: does your new card not work?
[10:45] <w8tah> scorp123: ok - -i stand corrected
[10:45] <Jowi> andrer_, "man interfaces" will list some options (like assgning static addresses)
[10:46] <scorp123> mabo: what software are we talking about? Can you please give us the full filename?
[10:46] <w8tah> mabo: ignore everything i just sent you - -and proceede at your own risk
[10:46] <univremonster> mc44:  It works, but it doesn't render 3D and it's choppy
[10:46] <mc44> univremonster: what card?
[10:46] <andrer_> Jowi: i did look into that... but it doesn't work if i don't add the address (and in this case, no address is not a static address)
[10:46] <Archoniam> I ask once more, what do you type for the debian unstable deb
[10:46] <Archoniam> what source*
[10:46] <andrer_> Jowi: i could try to assign ip 0.0.0.0 to it... but what would be the "netmask" parameter for that? 0.0.0.0 as well?
[10:46] <univremonster> mc44:  	 FREETECH PX6200TD-128M GeForce 6200 128MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
[10:46] <mc44> Archoniam: why do you want debian debs,,,?
[10:47] <mc44> univremonster: are you on feisty?
[10:47] <scorp123> Archoniam: you'd be better off to use Debian right away.
[10:47] <univremonster> mc44: yes, updated 2 days ago from Dapper
[10:47] <univremonster> I had the same problems in all 3 (Dapper, Edgy, Fiesty)
[10:47] <mc44> univremonster: have you tried System -> Admin -> Restricted Driver Manager
[10:48] <Cubey> Jowi, it's not anything using cpu power
[10:48] <Archoniam> mc44: I'm trying to get swftools to run. I NEED IT FOR SELF-STABILITY!
[10:48] <Roundy_T1> Hey, i need help setting up my Creative 24bit sound card for 5.1 surround...anyone willing to help me out on this one?
[10:48] <Cubey> it's simply acting like crap
[10:48] <univremonster> mc44:  I have not.  I am there now and it says it is "not in use"
[10:48] <Jowi> andrer_, I would set a dummy static address. or see if  /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf has other options...
[10:48] <mc44> Archoniam: debian debs may not work on ubuntu, and adding a debian repository to your sources.list is a bad idea
[10:48] <Cubey> in all the years I've used windows, I never had an installtion, not even WinME, go back in 4 days the way ubuntu has
[10:48] <mc44> univremonster: then enable it
[10:48] <Cubey> go bad*
[10:48] <univremonster> mc44:  "Because the software is proprietary, it cannot easily be changed to fix any future problems"
[10:48] <kismet> Cubey, your jinxed :p
[10:49] <Archoniam> scorp123: Are you CRAZY? Ubuntu friggin' ROCKS man!
[10:49] <mc44> univremonster: yes, don't worry
[10:49] <Jowi> Cubey, rephrase your question.
[10:49] <univremonster> mc44:  how do I enable then?
[10:49] <mc44> univremonster: click the box...?
[10:49] <scorp123> Archoniam: yes, but why then your insistence to use packages from another distro?
[10:49] <plich_> did someone have a wireless card supported by ndiswrapper ??
[10:49] <bruenig> scorp123, are you talking about debian?
[10:49] <univremonster> mc44:  sorry my theme is a bit... off and the box was the same color as the background.  Got it now.  Thanks!
[10:50] <iNcrease> anyone can help? i got this xmodmap problem ... i got mx518 mice  with this as standard option: xmodmap -e " pointer = 1 2 3 8 6 7 4 5 9"
[10:50] <iNcrease>  .. now i want to let work my prev and next button on it but cant seems to find it :...
[10:50] <Archoniam> scorp123: I'll tell you what i told to mc44- I NEED SWFTOOLS FOR SELF-STABILITY!!
[10:50] <wesolek> hello :) can anybody help me out going back to windows? Windows installer doesn't see the partitions that linux was on so I've been struggling for the past few hours to get it back to normal - no luck :(
[10:50] <bruenig> !caps | Archoniam
[10:50] <ubotu> Archoniam: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:50] <mc44> !caps | Archoniam
[10:50] <scorp123> bruenig: Archoniam here tries to install non-Ubuntu packages on Ubuntu ...
[10:50] <Cubey> Jowi, it's not so much a question as a statement. i can't figure out what's wrong. it's not something eating up CPU. the system simply is bogged down now after i did a proper shut down. i booted it back up to find it to be performing in a useless fashion. it takes 5 minutes to boot to the desktop
[10:50] <bruenig> scorp123, oh
[10:50] <bruenig> Archoniam, that's not a good idea unless you are compiling from source
[10:51] <Cubey> there are no errors when I run it in recovery mode to veiw what happens
[10:51] <bruenig> compiling from source is safe but installing foreign debs can be problematic
[10:51] <TheCreationist> Can someone tell my why every program I try to print from crashes as soon as I select "Print" from a menu?  I tried removing and then reinstalling my printer driver, but now my printer suddenly isn't even detected....
[10:51] <scorp123> bruenig: exactly .... library versions and stuff can be different between Ubuntu and Debian ....
[10:51] <univremonster> cybrhuman:  Do you have a liveCD?
[10:51] <bruenig> yes compiled against different libraries is hell
[10:51] <cybrhuman> univremonster: in 20 minutes, yes
[10:52] <Cubey> the live cd performs better than my installed version now all of a sudden
[10:52] <univremonster> cybrhuman:  perhaps you can get your data off using that... though if you're burning one you already thought of that.  I have to restart, good luck!
[10:52] <wesolek> I need some help to change my partitions back to be visible by windows installer, I tried to change it in fdisk (linux) but so far no luck
[10:52] <iNcrease> anyone can help? i got this xmodmap problem ... i got mx518 mice  with this as standard option: xmodmap -e " pointer = 1 2 3 8 6 7 4 5 9"  .. now i want to let work my prev and next button on it but cant seems to find it :...
[10:52] <claria> hi, does anybody know this theme? http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=htopww7.png
[10:52] <Jowi> Cubey, have a look in /etc/rc2.d to see if you have services starting up that you don't need (like various servers and indexing tools)
[10:53] <bruenig> wesolek, there is no reason the partitions wouldn't be invisible, you might check out ##windows though
[10:53] <bruenig> visible*
[10:53] <abhorred> Hey all, where is the option in KDE to change the Screen Resolution?
[10:53] <w8tah> can someone please point me to the ubuntu server channel -- #ubuntu-server as listed in the wiki seems to be defunct
[10:53] <abhorred> I get the feeling they buried it
[10:53] <bruenig> abhorred, #kubuntu might give you a quicker answer
[10:53] <mabo_> someone can talk spanish here??????????????????????
[10:53] <wesolek> you mean the channel windows? bruenig
[10:53] <Cubey> Jowi, it was fine until i shut down a short while ago. it's not something eating CPU, it's just bogged WAY down but, i'll check that too ....
[10:54] <bruenig> wesolek, yes
[10:54] <Jowi> Cubey, a nice tool for that (that has got explanations of all the services) is "bum"
[10:54] <mc44> w8tah: there is no specific channel
[10:54] <ompaul> !es | mabo_
[10:54] <ubotu> mabo_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:54] <abhorred> I am using Ubuntu, I just happened to install KDE on it
[10:54] <wesolek> thanks bruenig :)
[10:54] <w8tah> mc44: ok -
[10:54] <wesolek> #windows
[10:54] <bruenig> abhorred, right but the advice they give you will be the same
[10:54] <bruenig> wesolek, it is ##windows
[10:54] <abhorred> Aight man
[10:54] <wesolek> ##windows
[10:54] <Jowi> Cubey, ah, maybe it was just checking a disk for errors? if you reboot again is it ok?
[10:54] <wesolek> didn't work lol
[10:54] <bruenig> wesolek, /join ##windows
[10:54] <wesolek> oh ok lol
[10:54] <Cubey> Jowi, i've rebooted it about 5 times now
[10:55] <w8tah> im trying to install the ssmtp package that is shown in synaptic on my ubuntu LTS LAMP server -- but it refuses to be found -- can someone point me in the right direction?
[10:55] <Cubey> it sits on loading files for booting or something like that for a while for one
[10:55] <bruenig> !find ssmtp
[10:55] <ubotu> Found: ssmtp
[10:55] <Cubey> but when the GUI finally loads it's also bogged way down
[10:55] <Jowi> Cubey, every 30 boots or so the disk will be checked automatically. ah, ok. I would use "bum" I think. Can't think of anyway else to troubleshoot atm.
[10:55] <bruenig> !info ssmtp
[10:55] <ubotu> ssmtp: extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.61-11 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 8 kB
[10:55] <ikonia> w8tah: what is the name of the package you want
[10:55] <bruenig> w8tah, what error do you get
[10:55] <Cubey> the overall performance is horrible
[10:55] <w8tah> ssmtp -- its a simple mail transport agent?
[10:55] <bruenig> w8tah, when you do apt-get install ssmtp'
[10:55] <ikonia> w8tah: and whats the error you get
[10:55] <Jowi> Cubey, check the logs maybe
[10:56] <bruenig> ssmpt*
[10:56] <w8tah> bruenig: no candidate version found
[10:56] <MrTankJump> May someone help me change my screen resolution, it only gives me the option of 800x600x50Hz.
[10:56] <bruenig> w8tah, you are on feisty?
[10:56] <ikonia> ahhh its not in 6.06
[10:56] <Cubey> check what log for what? :S
[10:56] <w8tah> bruenig: no - 6.06 LTS
[10:56] <w8tah> bruenig: server
[10:56] <bruenig> !info ssmtp dapper
[10:56] <Archoniam> Well then, this leads to the question i have asked at least five times! (In advance, yes i have used sudo! And yes, i have tried most of the $#@^ people on the forums *and* irc chatroom have said! Which would again be nothing useful!) My checkinstall and "make" and "make install" commands are bugged or something because i type in "sudo checkinstall 'package/name/was/here.tar.gz' and i get Permission Denied for the package. It's pr
[10:56] <ubotu> ssmtp: extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.61-5 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 8 kB
[10:57] <bruenig> w8tah, do you have the extra repositories enabled?
[10:57] <scorp123> w8tah: did you already do an "apt-get update"
[10:57] <TheCreationist> Can someone tell my why every program I try to print from crashes as soon as I select "Print" from a menu?  I tried removing and then reinstalling my printer driver, but now my printer suddenly isn't even detected....
[10:57] <w8tah> bruenig: must not have the right repos
[10:57] <NETWizz> I need help
[10:57] <Sivik> can i get some help with grub
[10:57] <w8tah> scorp123: ya i did but i'll do it again
[10:57] <Jowi> Cubey, /var/log/messages - /var/log/syslog - /var/log/boot (if you have that). no idea what to look for though. could be anything.
[10:57] <NETWizz> I went to debug a friend's dos boot disc for updating bios
[10:57] <NETWizz> He set it up so that in autoexec.bat it runs fdisk /mbr
[10:57] <NETWizz> I was unaware
[10:57] <bruenig> w8tah, ok well edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment all the lines starting with deb
[10:57] <NETWizz> until after I ran it
[10:57] <Sivik> loaded the os and just get to grub>, did a resetup after having to reinstall winblows, and now i can't get the howtos to work, here is what it says when i'm in grub>, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30459/
[10:57] <NETWizz> Now I get Missing Operating System on my Ubuntu laptp
[10:57] <bruenig> w8tah, then apt-get update and apt-get install ssmtp
[10:57] <iNcrease> anyone can help? i got this xmodmap problem ... i got mx518 mice  with this as standard option: xmodmap -e " pointer = 1 2 3 8 6 7 4 5 9"  .. now i want to let work my prev and next button on it but cant seems to find it :...
[10:58] <w8tah> bruenig: ok -- im on it
[10:58] <Flannel> !grub | NETWizz
[10:58] <Cubey> Jowi, after this mess, a few virus related issues with windows doesn't seem so bad. :/
[10:58] <ubotu> NETWizz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:58] <Flannel> NETWizz: first link there, that'll reinstall GRUB
[10:58] <preview> iae
[10:59] <Jowi> Cubey, a better question is, did you install something before that first troublesome boot?
[10:59] <w8tah> bruenig: thanks  - im comming over from gentoo and still learning apt
[10:59] <MrTankJump> May someone help me change my screen resolution, it only gives me the option of 800x600x50Hz.
[10:59] <mwe> !fixres | MrTankJump
[10:59] <ubotu> MrTankJump: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:59] <NETWizz> Thanks
[10:59] <Sivik> Flannel: what am i doing wrong that is causing mine not to work, thats the howto i followed
[10:59] <Cubey> Jowi, yes, lots of things. :/
[11:00] <akari> Could someone please help me with an unsupported, non-standard software install of Sun Java Studio Enterprise 8.1? http://developers.sun.com/jsenterprise/downloads/index.jsp
[11:00] <Flannel> Sivik: Right, I saw your paste, looks... normal.  Your BIOS is setup to boot off of hd0, right?
[11:00] <blargman> how do i mount an iso rw?
[11:00] <cybrhuman> mc44: you seemed to be able to help univremonster with his drivers issue, maybe you could help me too with a graphics issue?
[11:00] <Jowi> Cubey, so check /var/log/dpkg.log to see what you installed
[11:00] <blargman> i tried -o loop,rw  :(
[11:00] <Cubey> might have been firestart perhaps, a firewall. i'm attempting to even get bum first. i have xfce up instead of gnome and it's just as slow
[11:00] <bruenig> blargman, you can't write to an iso
[11:00] <mc44> cybrhuman: whats the problem?
[11:01] <bruenig> blargman, you can extract it add some stuff and then put it back together
[11:01] <akari> bruenig: He's talking about an iso image file
[11:01] <scorp123> bruenig: should be possible
[11:01] <Sivik> Flannel, its the only hd that i have installed, i get to the grub 1.5 but then it just goes to grub>
[11:01] <bruenig> scorp123, not by mounting though
[11:01] <cybrhuman> mc44: installed new driver, and after that my gui hasn't worked.
[11:01] <Archoniam> WHAT THE CRAP? Nobody sees a five-line message? Well, this better be visible(for once)! (In advance, yes i have used sudo! And yes, i have tried most of the $#@^ people on the forums *and* irc chatroom have said! Which would again be nothing useful!) My checkinstall and "make" and "make install" commands are bugged or something because i type in "sudo checkinstall 'package/name/was/here.tar.gz' and i get Permission Denied for the 
[11:01] <scorp123> bruenig: an ISO image? Sure.
[11:01] <JC_Denton_> does ubuntu work with most webcams?
[11:01] <scorp123> bruenig: .... at least that's what I thought .....
[11:01] <mc44> !attitude | Archoniam
[11:01] <ubotu> Archoniam: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:02] <mc44> cybrhuman: what driver? what card?
[11:02] <mwe> mount the iso copy and change files, create a new iso
[11:02] <Jowi> Archoniam, "./configure" + "make" + "sudo checkinstall"
[11:02] <MrTankJump> the command did nothing to fix my problem
[11:02] <bruenig> well he said he can't write to it even with -o rw
[11:02] <mwe> of course not it wont mount rw
[11:02] <scorp123> Archoniam: besides, checkinstall won't work everywhere according to my experience.
[11:03] <bruenig> mwe, so then how do  you do it?
[11:03] <Archoniam> Jowi: As what?
[11:03] <Jowi> Archoniam, checkinstall creates and installs a .deb package. not a tar.gz.
[11:03] <cybrhuman> mc44: nvidia geforce go 7600, not sure on the driver .... x.org is the only thing i remember.
[11:03] <JC_Denton_> !webcam
[11:03] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:03] <mwe> bruenig: mount the iso, copy all the files elsewhere. change what you want and create a new iso file
[11:03] <mc44> cybrhuman: how did you install the driver?
[11:03] <digin4> is there a black gnome theme for ubuntu instead of organge?:P
[11:03] <bruenig> !patience | Archoniam you don't check install .tar.gzs you check install after compiling the source
[11:03] <ubotu> Archoniam you don't check install .tar.gzs you check install after compiling the source: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:04] <Jowi> Archoniam, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[11:04] <Sivik> what else should i try, it seems to still not be working (the grub)
[11:04] <cybrhuman> mc44: package manager, the one that gnome uses.
[11:04] <cybrhuman> mc44: synaptic is it?
[11:04] <Flannel> Sivik: Ah.  That's not a re-install GRUB thign then.  That's a menu.lst issue
[11:04] <mc44> cybrhuman: yes, which driver did you install...?
[11:04] <bruenig> mwe, right well that is basically an alternative way to what I was saying
[11:04] <Flannel> Sivik: pastebin your menu.lst (/boot/grub/menu.lst)
[11:05] <Sivik> Flannel, then let me pastebin the menu.lst
[11:05] <Archoniam> scorp123 and Jowi, Checkinstall never works for some reason even if used in the most proper of ways.
[11:05] <Flannel> Sivik: make sure you get the one off your HD, not the one in memory of the LiveCD
[11:05] <bruenig> mwe, I just meant to say you can't mount an iso add files to it, unmount it and have that file changed, you have to add files and recreate it
[11:05] <Sivik> i know, i had it set that way
[11:05] <plich__> did someone have a wireless card supported by ndiswrapper ??
[11:06] <scorp123> Archoniam: well, you must be doing something wrong then. For complex issues I suggest you use the forums. It makes it easier to post complex issues, copy & paste outputs, etc. IRC has its limits you see.
[11:06] <mc44> cybrhuman: what error do you get on startup?
[11:06] <Jack_Sparrow> plich__: what wireless card do you have
[11:06] <Jowi> Archoniam, just make sure you have "build-essential" installed. and read that page link I gave you.
[11:06] <Archoniam> Well, there's the friggin' problem. Gotta chmod first.
[11:06] <bruenig> Archoniam, when you compile stuff it should tip you off as to whether it has erred, don't just ./configure make and make install without looking at what it spits out at you
[11:07] <Sivik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30484/
[11:07] <cybrhuman> mc44: when the ubuntu loading screen displeys it goes blank afterwards...
[11:07] <plich__> Jack_Sparrow: I've working card, but i must to start it by hand (dhclient wlan0)
[11:07] <Archoniam> Jowi: Thanks for the linkm figured out what the crap i did wrong
[11:07] <mc44> cybrhuman: blank.? you get text? and error? a prompt...?
[11:07] <Jowi> Archoniam, no prob.
[11:07] <cybrhuman> mc44: I am able to log on in text mode
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> plich__: I have a couple broadcom's and they have been working fine
[11:08] <mc44> cybrhuman: did you mess with your xorg when you installed the driveR?
[11:08] <kaslepro> which repo for getting opera
[11:08] <plich__> Jack_Sparrow: They working on GUI, that U can connect/disconnect by network manager ?
[11:08] <akari> Can someone please help with installing Sun Java Studio on Feisty? >.<
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> plich__: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> plich__: Is what I have running here
[11:09] <Jowi> kaslepro, http://www.opera.com/download/
[11:09] <Flannel> Sivik: Which partition is / on?  and is /boot on a different one?
[11:09] <cybrhuman> mc44: i executed an instruction for enabling that driver (command came up after instaling the package), I got a error message there i think but I thought it didnt mean so much...
[11:09] <Sivik> root is on sd3 and the boot is on sd2
[11:09] <VanillaTbone> OK, I got a simple problem that I cannot figure out guys...
[11:10] <mc44> cybrhuman: ok do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the "nv" driver and the defaults for everything else
[11:10] <Jack_Sparrow> plich__: Good luck with that.. I need to power down and switch some hardware.
[11:10] <cybrhuman> mc44: thanks, i will try that
[11:11] <sayers> I can't suspend because of a Plug and Play problem
[11:11] <mc44> cybrhuman: then run startx to get into the gui
[11:11] <VanillaTbone> I open my terminal use gedit to open a Python file and edit some syntax, but the file is "appears" to be blank. But this is a tech support's instructions on their software
[11:11] <bruenig> VanillaTbone, check that there wasn't a typo in te filename
[11:11] <bruenig> the*
[11:12] <Sivik> does having those two didn't partitions and hope that isn't a problem
[11:12] <Flannel> Sivik: Ah, that's your issue then.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0  and pay special attenton to where he mounts /boot (his /dev/hda1)
[11:12] <VanillaTbone> I copied and pasted then cd'd to the dir and "ls" and it is the right one
[11:12] <bruenig> VanillaTbone, what does cat filename give you
[11:12] <dyrne> VanillaTbone: as a rule try to use tab completion when gedit filename just to be sure
[11:12] <VanillaTbone> Find the line that says:
[11:12] <VanillaTbone>  {{{
[11:12] <VanillaTbone>  # self.add_renderer("gstrenderer")
[11:12] <VanillaTbone>  }}}
[11:12] <VanillaTbone>  And remove the # at the beginning of it, so it should look like:
[11:12] <VanillaTbone>  {{{
[11:12] <VanillaTbone>  self.add_renderer("gstrenderer")
[11:12] <VanillaTbone>  }}}
[11:12] <VanillaTbone>  The comment out the line that says
[11:12] <bruenig> !ops
[11:13] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:13] <VanillaTbone>  {{{
[11:13] <VanillaTbone>  self.add_renderer("xinerenderer")
[11:13] <tomaw> bah
[11:13] <Sivik> VanilliaTbone: pleae use pastebin
[11:13] <Jowi> !paste > VanillaTbone
[11:13] <VanillaTbone> yeah
[11:13] <VanillaTbone> Sorry bout the flood guys
[11:13] <Cubey> *sigh* this is just insanity
[11:14] <Sivik> Flannel: i have that printed out
[11:14] <Flannel> Sivik: no, having those partitions separate isn't a problem, it's just different than having them together.  Most people prefer having /boot separate
[11:14] <bruenig> VanillaTbone, does cat filename give you stuff, yes or no?
[11:14] <Sivik> Flannel: ok
[11:14] <VanillaTbone> No bruenig
[11:14] <VanillaTbone> sec
[11:14] <Archoniam> VanillaTbone: Just use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and you'll be in the clear from being kickbanned by an op.
[11:14] <bruenig> VanillaTbone, but it doesn't tell you that the file doesn't exist?
[11:15] <VanillaTbone> sec
[11:15] <kaslepro> how do i increase the speed on my tutch pad? please help...
[11:15] <Compressed> is there an easy way to go back to python 2.4 after doing an apt-get update?
[11:15] <VanillaTbone> sudo gedit /usr/share/python-support/democracyplayer/democracy/frontend_implementation/VideoDisplay.py
[11:15] <Flannel> Sivik: Are you using the desktop CD or the alternate CD?
[11:15] <VanillaTbone> ^that is it
[11:15] <bruenig> Compressed, I believe they are installed simultaneously
[11:15] <Compressed> oh
[11:15] <bruenig> VanillaTbone, I don't care, do cat /that/long/thing and tell me if it shoots stuff out or not
[11:15] <VanillaTbone> alright bruenig
[11:16] <Sivik> Flannel: i see what i missed
[11:16] <Compressed> bruenig: in /usr/include i only see python2.5 dir
[11:16] <bruenig> !info python2.4
[11:16] <ubotu> python2.4: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.4). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.4-2ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 2731 kB, installed size 9296 kB
[11:16] <bruenig> !info python 2.5
[11:16] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB
[11:16] <Cubey> Jowi, guess what? Bum froze
[11:17] <bruenig> !info python2.5
[11:17] <ubotu> python2.5: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.5). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3015 kB, installed size 10300 kB
[11:17] <Flannel> Sivik: sounds good.  Also, if you go to the bottom of the page, there's some tutorial from elsewhere, that walks you through it too (look for "configuring the GRUB menu")
[11:17] <bruenig> Compressed, yes they are two different packages, make sure python2.4 and python2.5 are installed
[11:17] <Compressed> ah
[11:17] <Compressed> apt-get install python2.4?
[11:17] <Cubey> it fails to even load the data
[11:17] <bruenig> Compressed, yes
[11:17] <Flannel> Sivik: I belive you just missed setting root to hda3
[11:17] <Compressed> oh ok ty
[11:17] <TJ1> Hi all  i was running Ubuntu 7.04 from a CD and it worked fine, when I installed it on the hard disk my wireless internet connection isnt working now   can someonehelp me get it working again?
[11:18] <bruenig> TJ1, does iwconfig give you any information as to which interface is the wireless interface or not
[11:18] <Jowi> Cubey, "sudo bum" should do it and it takes a while for it to find what you have installed. anyway, not sure I can give you more pointers than that. /var/log/dpkg.log can be useful to see what exactly you installed and if you really need it...
[11:18] <VanillaTbone> bruenig: you were right.... I will have to contact the support rep and get the right dir and/or filename. It does not exist
[11:18] <Carlos___> wolas
[11:19] <TJ1> hmmm
[11:19] <TJ1> how do i type that in?  lol
[11:19] <bruenig> TJ1, open the terminal applications>accessories>terminal and do 'iwconfig"
[11:20] <bruenig> mismatching quotes
[11:20] <bruenig> hmmm
[11:20] <BaD_CrC> bruenig: wlan0 usually
[11:20] <bruenig> BaD_CrC, usually yeah, mine is eth2 though
[11:20] <Sivik> Flannel: thanks for making me read it again
[11:21] <Flannel> Sivik: Get it figured out?
[11:21] <fzaly> anyone knows how to remove 'mldonkey' pls?
[11:21] <bruenig> fzaly, how did you install it?
[11:21] <TJ1> it says: No wireless extensions
[11:21] <BaD_CrC> bruenig: are you using a router as a client? that's how mine is setup.
[11:21] <w8tah> i know this is really really minor, but on my gentoo servers, both my normal command prompts and also my vi windows have some color coding to them - -on my ubuntu boxes they do not -- is there an EASY way to achieve this?
[11:21] <TJ1> on eth0
[11:21] <danya__> someone plz help me with wine installation !!?
[11:21] <TJ1> eth1 IEEE 802.11b/g
[11:21] <bruenig> BaD_CrC, it has to do with the chipset, ipw stuff is always eth2
[11:22] <TJ1> it works on the wired network
[11:22] <Archoniam> (now, i'm probably going to follow y'all's BS and i'll have to repeat it anyway.) I tried ta ./configure in swftools. It hates me and now it outputs the error here: (also the trial and error process i used) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30485/
[11:22] <BaD_CrC> bruenig: what chipset? i just got in, so if you said anything above, i didn't catch it.
[11:22] <TJ1> just n0oton the wireless
[11:22] <ladydoor> w8tah: Are you talking about the prompt? ls output? ncurses applications?
[11:22] <fzaly> i've ran the mlnet
[11:23] <TJ1> its an HP latop  p4  3.2ghz with 1gig of RAM
[11:23] <bruenig> BaD_CrC, no I mean the way that stuff is named is dependent on the wireless cards, intel cards from what I have read are usually named eth2 or ethsomething whereas other cards go with wlan0, it is dependent on that not on router config or whatever else you were talking about
[11:23] <w8tah> ladydoor: the prompt itself and everything in vi
[11:23] <fzaly> then it works
[11:23] <ladydoor> w8tah: what shell do you use? bash?
[11:23] <w8tah> yes
[11:23] <Roundy_T1> My sound works, but i don't have any control over the levels....any ideas?
[11:23] <bruenig> TJ1, are you sure it is eth0? does it have a bunch of stuff beside eth0 in the output:
[11:23] <bruenig> ?
[11:23] <TJ1> no  eth0 says no wireless connections
[11:24] <TJ1> eth1 has a bunch of stuff next to it
[11:24] <TJ1> Broadcom 4306
[11:24] <bruenig> TJ1, ok so it is eth1
[11:24] <w8tah> ladydoor: yes
[11:24] <ladydoor> w8tah: okay, what is the output of cat .bashrc |grep PS1
[11:24] <ladydoor> ?
[11:24] <TJ1> yes  eth1 sounds like the wired connection
[11:24] <bruenig> TJ1, do iwlist eth1 scan, and see if it picks up any access points
[11:24] <BaD_CrC> bruenig: i have an intel gigabit ethernet port on my mobo and it shows as eth0 and i have a dlink wireless card on the same board as wlan0. both are bridged for a little boost in speed for transferring stuff across my gigabit lan.
[11:24] <bruenig> TJ1, eth1 is the wireless connection
[11:24] <TJ1> ok
[11:24] <Cubey> Jowi, i finally got it. however i don't think it made any differnce disabling the ones i didn't need
[11:25] <bruenig> TJ1, eth0 says there is no wireless stuff on it, that is how you know
[11:25] <P-K> is the ubuntu.beryl-project.org still working?
[11:25] <abhorred> bruenig: Thanks for sending me there, didn't totally fix me up but they gave me good advice
[11:25] <TJ1> how do i get it to find my wireless router?
[11:25] <Roundy_T1> My sound works, but i don't have any control over the levels....any ideas?
[11:25] <w8tah> ladydoor: no such file or directory
[11:25] <abhorred> Everyone have a wonderful day
[11:25] <BaD_CrC> odd
[11:25] <bruenig> BaD_CrC, ok so you are affirming my point
[11:25] <TJ1> ?
[11:25] <ladydoor> w8tah: are you in your home dir? if not, do cat ~/.bashrc|grep PS1
[11:25] <akari> danya__: May I kindly redirect you to; http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[11:26] <bruenig> TJ1, do "iwlist eth1 scan" in terminal
[11:26] <bruenig> TJ1, see if it picks anything up
[11:26] <ladydoor> w8tah: If you don't have a .bashrc, we'll just get you one started real quick.
[11:26] <BaD_CrC> hmm, i have a ath0 and wifi0 as well. don't know where those came from.
[11:26] <w8tah> ladydoor: ok
[11:26] <TJ1> rth1 says No scan results
[11:26] <bruenig> BaD_CrC, different cards, atheros is ath0 I believe
[11:26] <FallingCow> I haven't been able to find on the ubuntu website minimum/recommended machine specs to put ubuntu on. Does anyone know (about) what they are?
[11:26] <BaD_CrC> atheros is wlan0
[11:26] <TJ1> eth1 says no scan results
[11:27] <Archoniam> Told yeh!!! Look the crap back to my last mesage -.-
[11:27] <bruenig> FallingCow, 256 MB of ram, 2 gigs of disk space
[11:27] <Archoniam> message*
[11:27] <ladydoor> w8tah: this line should get you a color prompt, if nothing else: PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\] \u\[\033[01;34m\] @\h:\[\033[01;31m\] \w\[\033\] \$ '
[11:27] <bruenig> TJ1, so it doesn't see any access points
[11:27] <w8tah> ladydoor: ok -one moment
[11:27] <ladydoor> w8tah: okay.
[11:27] <TJ1> no wireless points, it doesnt apprear that way
[11:28] <FallingCow> bruenig: thanks
[11:28] <dyrne> FallingCow: this has more to do with what you are running ontop of the base install. ubuntu by default uses gnome which i dont like with less than 512 ram. xubuntu though id consider usable with 128 or 256. then  fluxbox on ubuntu 64 or above
[11:28] <rolfen> anyone knows about a german-english translation utility for linux?
[11:28] <BaD_CrC> grrr, the gnome bar crashed
[11:28] <chattr> hi
[11:28] <BaD_CrC> let's see if it will recover my systray icons
[11:28] <w8tah> ladydoor where does .bashrc go in the home folder?
[11:28] <BaD_CrC> 90% of the time it doesn't
[11:28] <Cubey> Jowi, could it possibley be a swap issue?
[11:29] <ladydoor> w8tah: I also find it useful to add the lines (without the outermost quotes) "eval "`dircolors -b $HOME/.colordb`" and "alias ls='ls -h --color=auto'"
[11:29] <tupa> I get that error compiling a driver, what packages do I need:       error: linux/config.h:
[11:29] <ladydoor> w8tah: it's its own file.
[11:29] <dyrne> BaD_CrC: pkill gnome-panel; nohup gnome-panel&
[11:29] <tupa> it says the file doesn't exist
[11:29] <danya__> akari : I cant seem to add those repos to the source list !
[11:29] <w8tah> i found it -- i was in /var/log when i looked for it b4
[11:29] <w8tah> sorry
[11:29] <bruenig> tupa, kernel headers maybe
[11:29] <ladydoor> w8tah: no worries :-)
[11:29] <FallingCow> dyrne: thanks, I'll likely be running fluxbox, or maybe xfce
[11:29] <Archoniam> LOL!
[11:30] <danya__> akari : I've tried also another site ..
[11:30] <akari> danya__: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[11:30] <bruenig> vim*
[11:30] <akari> If you cannot edit the file you forgot to sudo the editor
[11:30] <ladydoor> w8tah: sweet. So you might just want to look through your file and edit it some. I believe that in vim there's some feature to enable. If you run the command vimtutor, it's somewhere in there
[11:30] <BaD_CrC> impatient people don't deserve help.
[11:31] <w8tah> ladydoor: will do -- looking at it now
[11:31] <bruenig> !ot | Archoniam
[11:31] <ubotu> Archoniam: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:31] <chattr> does other distributions use commands like "sudo" too?
[11:31] <BaD_CrC> i didn't get help here by being impatient
[11:31] <abhorred> chattr: Other distributions allow you to login as Root :P
[11:31] <bruenig> chattr, sudo is a separate program, you can install and use it on any distro
[11:31] <chattr> true
[11:31] <chattr> ah okay
[11:31] <akari> I successfully suppressed my impatience and got no help - but found it out myself ^.^
[11:31] <chattr> i used before mandrake
[11:31] <BaD_CrC> if you really must, "sudo su -"
[11:31] <tupa> bruenig how is the package named? I installed linux-headers-generic, but no luck
[11:32] <abhorred> I came from Slackware
[11:32] <chattr> but now i took ubuntu and got a "shock" lol
[11:32] <bruenig> !find linux-headers
[11:32] <ubotu> Found: linux-headers-2.6.20-15, linux-headers-2.6.20-15-386, linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-headers-2.6.20-15-lowlatency, linux-headers-2.6.20-15-server (and 14 others)
[11:32] <TJ1> so no other suggestions (not trying to sound impatient)  :)
[11:32] <abhorred> But alas, I can get people to actually like Ubuntu
[11:32] <bruenig> tupa, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:32] <awsoonn> How shoudl i start going about settign up a Dial up connection in Ubuntu?
[11:32] <tupa> bruenig that's what I installed
[11:32] <chattr> sometime when i want to compile a program with ./configure etc i get an error message
[11:33] <tupa> let me paste the error
[11:33] <danya__> akari : .. the command u gave me what do they do ?
[11:33] <chattr> what can be the problem for?
[11:33] <tupa> in debian compiles fine, so I guess ubuntu would be fine too bruenig
[11:33] <akari> danya__: Start vi editor with root access
[11:33] <dyrne> chattr: the first thing you need is build-essential package
[11:33] <bruenig> sudo is generally more useful as a means of circumventing passwords, for instance wifi-radar requires root but it is annoying to type it each time when you are roaming, so you just set a sudo exception and all is good
[11:33] <danya__> akari : would u be telling this to a one week new user :P?
[11:33] <chattr> dyrne and i get this where?
[11:34] <Sivik> Flannel: thanks
[11:34] <dyrne> chattr: your package manager
[11:34] <soothsayer> By default on ubuntu-server is it safe to open UDP 123 for NTP?
[11:34] <Archoniam> bruenig: lolol....that was about the question i asked, which is not off topic. God, takin' everything the wrong way, making everyone think i'm a dumb#$@ becouse i LOL about talking to 1,125 brick wallk.
[11:34] <tupa> bruenig : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30488/
[11:34] <Archoniam> walls*
[11:34] <Archoniam> 1,126*
[11:34] <Syncro> umm, i need help with my ET sound (No sound)
[11:34] <panfist> hi, i installed xubuntu onto my laptop, then when i tried to install ati drivers according to this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide and when I boot, x fails to start
[11:34] <akari> danya__: We offer help on a case by case basis, we do not offer introductory courses ^.^
[11:34] <w8tah> ladydoor: how do i run the vimtutor comamnd -- all ive ever done with vim is edit text files and confs
[11:34] <chattr> Dyrne okay i will check it then thx
[11:34] <dyrne> chattr: having to compile something is pretty rare in ubuntu though. there are alot of packages
[11:34] <tupa> as you can see in line 35, linux headers are installed
[11:34] <Archoniam> panfist: Go to #xubuntu for that.
[11:35] <bruenig> Archoniam, this is a volunteer channel, we may not know the answer or may intentionally keep it from you for being a jackass, stop complaining, none of us are paid
[11:35] <ladydoor> w8tah: Oh, okay. Just type "vimtutor" at the command prompt.
[11:35] <w8tah> in vim or at the normal command line?
[11:35] <ladydoor> w8tah: it contains handy tips for using vim, but there is a lot of it.
[11:35] <chattr> dyrne so i dont need to?
[11:35] <ladydoor> w8tah: normal.
[11:35] <x_> hello everybody :-)
[11:35] <w8tah> DOH -- sorry i was trying in vim
[11:35] <Syncro> hello
[11:35] <GNUtoo> hello,what's the name of the printer manager in ubuntu?(the thing that apears when you print something and where you can change the printer queue and similar)
[11:35] <w8tah> my brain is mush tonight
[11:35] <x_> i need some help about Bryl
[11:35] <dyrne> chattr: sometimes you might want to. but rarely need to. always search the synaptic package manager first
[11:35] <BaD_CrC> talk nerdy to me
[11:36] <BaD_CrC> :)
[11:36] <Syncro> What is it x_
[11:36] <akari> GNUtoo: The printer manager is CUPS and the tool you're refering to is most likely evince
[11:36] <GNUtoo> akari, thanks
[11:36] <x_> SYN.... how i can get glass desktop during rotating Cube ?!
[11:36] <ladydoor> w8tah: Sorry, I'm not actually super-familiar with vim, so that's honestly as far as I can get you.
[11:36] <Syncro> Glass desktop?
[11:36] <akari> x_: #ubuntu-effects for questions about beryl :)
[11:36] <Syncro> ohhh
[11:36] <Syncro> Like see through
[11:36] <chattr> dyrne srry for my questions i m new in ubuntu  so what about this "synamtic package manager"
[11:36] <x_> what ?!
[11:37] <w8tah> ladydoor: no worries -- ive used it a lot in gentoo - -but only for text editing -- i know it can do tons -- just never bothered to learn it all
[11:37] <myheartfordebian> chattr: Just the greatest thing ever
[11:37] <Music_Shuffle> !synaptic | chattr
[11:37] <ubotu> chattr: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[11:37] <BaD_CrC> Ask A Ninja has all the answers
[11:37] <Syncro> All right well i understand
[11:37] <Syncro> Hold on
[11:37] <dyrne> chattr: it is basically a front end to apt-get
[11:37] <x_> if i can find out so why i should asking here ?! :-(
[11:38] <chattr> hm i used always: sudo aptitude
[11:38] <ladydoor> w8tah: I mean, it's good to know the basics.
[11:38] <chattr> so its the same then or?
[11:38] <Syncro> ok
[11:38] <w8tah> agreed - thanks again
[11:38] <Syncro> x_
[11:38] <bust3d> http://youtube.com/watch?v=_9oPwjN3AmA&mode=related&search=
[11:38] <bust3d> HILARIOUS
[11:38] <Syncro> You have Beryl running
[11:38] <dyrne> chattr: pretty much. you can use aptitude or apt-get or synaptic for gui goodness
[11:38] <Syncro> Open the manager
[11:38] <TJ1> hey  whats weird is that my router sees the wireless laptop
[11:38] <BaD_CrC> eww aptitude was like the first thing i messed with back in the 1.2.13 days of debian.
[11:38] <BaD_CrC> never again
[11:38] <x_> SYN... yeah ?!
[11:38] <TJ1> and it has an ip address on the routers config page
[11:39] <chattr> dyrne ah ok nice
[11:39] <Syncro> On the top click Desktop
[11:39] <Syncro> Then clcik Desktop Cube
[11:39] <x_> UBUNTU-EFFECTS is empty :-(
[11:39] <Syncro> then click Transperancy Cube
[11:39] <Syncro> And check it
[11:39] <Archoniam> /leave
[11:39] <Marlene> yup im new to linux in general how do i set up my connection to my home net
[11:40] <Syncro> It should work
[11:40] <bruenig> what an idiot
[11:40] <x_> SYN ... thanks ... let me try   :-)
[11:40] <TJ1> and it has the dns server # and my cable domain name there too
[11:40] <Syncro> Alright
[11:40] <ladydoor> w8tah: np.
[11:40] <wepeel> hi all, whe I log in, I keep getting a message that the file .dmrc in my $HOME directory isn't owned by me etc...anyone familiar with this and can help me?
[11:41] <TJ1> but under the host tab on the laptop it says local host ip address is 127.0.0.1
[11:41] <NETWizz> Anybody know where to find himem.sys
[11:41] <NETWizz> for msdos 6.22
[11:41] <ompaul> NETWizz, ask in ##windows
[11:41] <akari> wepeel: sudo chown <yourname>:<yourname> *.dmrc
[11:41] <bruenig> wepeel, you need to do ctrl + alt + f1 to get to a virtual console, and then login and do sudo chown username:username -R /home/username
[11:41] <BaD_CrC> NETWizz: http://opendos.org/
[11:41] <BaD_CrC> or http://freedos.com/
[11:42] <TJ1> hmmm so no one can help me?  i dont know if I missed the reply before
[11:42] <bruenig> wepeel, then ctrl + alt + f7 to get back to login
[11:42] <leon_pegg_> my ubuntu desktop http://boxstor.com/image/laptop-003.png hoe cool
[11:42] <x_> SYN ... thanks friend   :-) that worked   :-D
[11:42] <Syncro> Haha, no prob
[11:42] <bruenig> TJ1, has iwlist eth1 scan produced anything for you yet?
[11:42] <x_> SYN ... how sometimes your ID is yello ?!
[11:42] <Syncro> I have no idea
[11:42] <akari> x_: Always yellow with your name in the line
[11:42] <Syncro> Its gray for me
[11:42] <wepeel> bruenig: do I have to log out now and then log back in?
[11:42] <x_> AKAR.. yeah ... but how ?!
[11:43] <akari> x_
[11:43] <Syncro> Or its probably becuase im partly color bind
[11:43] <Syncro> blind*
[11:43] <Syncro> hahaha
[11:43] <bruenig> wepeel, no just switch to the ctrl + alt + f7 and login normally
[11:43] <x_> :-o
[11:43] <TJ1> no  eth1 says No scan results
[11:43] <Sivik> fwhat kind of card TJ1?
[11:43] <Syncro> Anyway, i need help with Enemy Territory cause i have No Sound
[11:43] <x_> akari ... if i wanna write 2 u with yellow what should i do ?!
[11:43] <Marlene> like i said im new to linux so if someone could give alittle help as to how to get the connection to my network to work i would apreciate it
[11:43] <BaD_CrC> why does my taskbar show a "Launching HTTP Cache Cleaner" like every 30 minutes? I don't see a cron job for it.
[11:43] <wepeel> bruenig: right, so If I'm already at f7 I need to log out and then back in for this to work
[11:44] <akari> x_: You just did by writing "akari" in the line
[11:44] <wepeel> brb
[11:44] <akari> FYI: Sun Java Enterprise Studio is incompatible with Beryl :((
[11:44] <TJ1> broadcom
[11:44] <myheartfordebian> I liked the USS Akira class more then Intrepid
[11:44] <apocalyptica> hi
[11:44] <x_> Syncro .... i am new in linux ... ;-)
[11:44] <ladydoor> x_: if you type out the whole nick when "talking" to someone, it draws their attention to it.
[11:44] <ladydoor> x_: which is why it's polite in busy channels to completely type out a nick when responding to someone...it helps them see when someone's saying something. (most irc clients have tab-completion) :-)
[11:44] <Syncro> I am kinda still new at Linux
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Jack_Sparrow: Testing to see if it will highlight my name to myself
[11:45] <Anlar> akari: that is Beryls fault and you can fix it using one command line option to sun studio
[11:45] <BaD_CrC> eww Broadcom chip. Linksys hardware?
[11:45] <Syncro> x_
[11:45] <wepeel> Hurm, no go
[11:45] <x_> i have some problem about screen resolution ... who can help me ?!
[11:45] <Syncro> Oh
[11:45] <akari> Anlar: Which CL?
[11:45] <Syncro> Haha
[11:45] <Syncro> I probably can
[11:45] <TJ1> d link pre-n router
[11:45] <myheartfordebian> x_, I just fixed a problem like that, what's up?
[11:45] <apocalyptica> could someone help me with fglrx and my ati driver?
[11:45] <bruenig> wepeel, I am confused you said you couldn't login because of the error and then asked whether you should log out
[11:45] <bruenig> that threw me
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Marlene: Where are you at with your networking problem..
[11:45] <wepeel> bruenig: sorry, I'm not beintg precise
[11:46] <x_> i using Nvidia 7900 GTX and i have just 1024 now ... how i can change it to 1680 ?!
[11:46] <wepeel> bruenig,  when I log in, i get a message that $HOME/.dmrc is being ignored
[11:46] <TJ1> what is weird.. the wireless connection worked in Ubuntu running off the cd but not after I install Ubuntu
[11:46] <Syncro> Whateves, i need help with Enemy Territory if someone out there knows how to fix the sound cause there in none what so ever
[11:46] <Marlene> ive got it connected but it will not alow me to browse
[11:46] <Anlar> akari: add AWT_TOOLKIT=MToolkit in front of the command.. like with netbeans it's "AWT_TOOLKIT=MToolkit netbeans"
[11:46] <sidenet> can someone help me with my wireless card?
[11:46] <wepeel> bruenig, and I'm supposed to chmod 644 that file, which I did
[11:46] <apocalyptica> i have a new ati card but fglrx still isnt working, i am running feisty
[11:46] <Anlar> akari: sun studio is just netbeans that is rebranded
[11:46] <NETWizz> Um
[11:46] <akari> x_: For non-standard resolution you need to edit your xorg.conf file and add it there
[11:46] <NETWizz> That is molested Windows
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Marlene: What type of netwrork card do you have
[11:46] <wepeel> bruenig, also, my $HOME permissions are all screwed up
[11:46] <bruenig> wepeel, ok, well what does ls -l ~/.dmrc show you for ownership and permissions
[11:46] <bruenig> wepeel, did you use sudo for graphical apps?
[11:47] <NETWizz> Why would someone molest windows to make it look like ubuntu
[11:47] <x_> akari ... i'm not pro ... can u tell me what can i do ?!
[11:47] <Marlene> i dont know off the top of my head and im not by my machine
[11:47] <sidenet> .j #ubuntu-device
[11:47] <sidenet> woops
[11:47] <wepeel> bruenig, -rw-r--r-- 1 username username
[11:47] <x_> akari  ... my Nvidia card is active now in restricted hardware
[11:47] <wepeel> bruenig, sudo for graphical apps?
[11:47] <Marlene> im sure its just your standard network easy ethernet card
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Marlene: In order to help us help you, we need to know as much as possible about your hardware, wired, wireless, cable, dsl, router, version of ubuntu..
[11:48] <BaD_CrC> blah, i'll be back.
[11:48] <akari> Anlar: Trying... thanks in advance
[11:48] <bruenig> wepeel, that is what generally causes these problems, unless you just went crazy on permissions yourself chowning stuff
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Marlene: There is no such thing
[11:49] <wepeel> bruenig: that latter I might have done trying to restrict other users access to my files. How can I restore all the correct permissions to my home folder (defaults)?
[11:49] <akari> x_: Type "sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and look at the bottom. You will see... :)
[11:49] <Marlene> aight i have a cisco bridge going to a smc router then i have a cable coming out of the router to the machine
[11:49] <NETWizz> There is a school district in Texas running Ubuntu
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Marlene: Sorry, not trying to be cute or curt...
[11:49] <akari> x_: I had to add my 1440x900, too
[11:49] <bruenig> wepeel, you just have to change them yourself, there is no restore to default permissions
[11:49] <winowerproblems> my user settings window opens but then freezes and no users show up does anybody have and suggestions in order to fix it??
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Marlene: Great start, we have a wired system
[11:49] <x_> akari ... and then?!
[11:49] <Marlene> my other machine with ms vista are working
[11:49] <chattr> i installed my php5 but how i configure it and start it then on ubuntu?
[11:49] <Jowi> Marlene, if you can enter an ip address in the browser like 216.239.59.99 (you should reach google) then it is a DNS problem.
[11:49] <wepeel> bruenig: ok, so chmod *** -R /home/username?
[11:50] <akari> Anlar: Thanks alot it's working great :)
[11:50] <sidenet> my wireless network card (linksys wmp54g ver. 1) is not working with ubuntu 7.04.  can someone point me in the direction of a tutorial to get it to work?  i've already tried ubuntu forums with no luck.
[11:50] <winowerproblems> ons in order to fix it?
[11:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Marlene: Is it internal on a desktop, pcmcia on a laptop, usb off a port..?
[11:50] <bruenig> wepeel, no that is a bad idea because different files require different permissions, for instance any directories you have require 755, but most files will require 644 or lower
[11:50] <akari> Anlar: I cannot program without my cube ^.^
[11:50] <Syncro> Someone call me?
[11:50] <Marlene> off a port on a desktop
[11:50] <Anlar> akari: I guess you can put it into your .bashrc, just export BLAHBLAH="whatever"
[11:51] <Syncro> I got ET sound working
[11:51] <wepeel> bruenig, hurm, can you think of another way to do it other than file by file?
[11:51] <Syncro> WOT
[11:51] <Syncro> WOOT*
[11:51] <akari> Anlar: I just put it in jstudio.sh :)
[11:51] <x_> akari ... that is all : # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
[11:51] <x_> #
[11:51] <x_> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[11:51] <x_> # values from the debconf database.
[11:51] <x_> #
[11:51] <x_> # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf(5) manual page.
[11:51] <x_> # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
[11:51] <x_> #
[11:51] <x_> # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
[11:51] <bruenig> !ops
[11:51] <Anlar> akari: that's fine as well :)
[11:51] <x_> # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
[11:51] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:51] <x_> # package.
[11:51] <bruenig> we can't handle a full xorg
[11:51] <x_> #
[11:51] <x_> # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
[11:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Marlene: So it is a usb network adapter...  so it should be easy to find out the make and model..
[11:51] <aricz> gg x_
[11:51] <x_> # again, run the following command:
[11:51] <ompaul> s
[11:51] <chattr> i installed my php5 but how i configure it and start it then on ubuntu?
[11:51] <Syncro> lol x_
[11:51] <winowerproblems> when my user settings window appears, all it does is show a window but no user names, or anything and when i press the x it says something about not responding
[11:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Marlene: It will probably end up being a broadcom BCM43xx chipset but we still need to check
[11:52] <wepeel> bruenig, what I pasted above rw -r -r is 644, right?
[11:52] <sidenet> Help!
[11:52] <akari> chattr: You type "php <yourscript.php>" if you want to add it to your apache config you just do nothing :)
[11:52] <bruenig> wepeel, you can switch all directories to 755 with one command, find ~ -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
[11:52] <bruenig> wepeel, yes
[11:52] <x_> i back ... who shoot me out of chatroom ?!?!?!?!?!?!
[11:53] <sidenet> you were spamming :(
[11:53] <akari> x_: You were spamming
[11:53] <x_> :-o
[11:53] <Jowi> x_, use pastebin (see the topic of the channel)
[11:53] <chattr> akari i want the server to test my local php scripts
[11:53] <InsomniaCity> Hi! can I install a package from something more recent than edgy on an edgy box?
[11:53] <x_> i just did what u said  :-(
[11:53] <bruenig> x_, we'd rather not have an entire xorg.conf pasted
[11:53] <Music_Shuffle> !pastebin | x_
[11:53] <ubotu> x_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:53] <Arso> das boot
[11:53] <LinuxKid> how can  install gmake on ubuntu
[11:53] <Arso> woops, wrong channel ,sorry
[11:53] <winowerproblems> does anybody know how to fix my user settings window it never shows any user names. and i don't know what to do to allow me to change the user settings
[11:53] <ladydoor> !apt-pin
[11:53] <bruenig> InsomniaCity, it is not a good idea
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-pin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <x_> oh .. ok
[11:53] <wepeel> bruenig, ok, did it. let me log out then log back in and see what it says
[11:53] <akari> chattr: I didn't have to do anything to do so. Just install apache2, php and synaptic should automagically add all necessary (default) configuration
[11:53] <Marlene> aight well like i said im not at my machine, just to clairify i have to manually set the network up, because i know they are taking to eack other the activity light is working
[11:54] <sidenet> !help
[11:54] <chattr> ok
[11:54] <x_> i just have a problem with screen resolution ... that's all :-(
[11:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:54] <erUSUL> !fixres | x_
[11:54] <ubotu> x_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:54] <Jowi> InsomniaCity, yes, by compiling the source for example. it is not recommended to install packages for other versions of ubuntu though (conflicts may arise)
[11:54] <wepeel> bruenig, that worked...I think my $HOME was permissioned incorrectly. Thanks for the help!
[11:54] <akari> chattr: Make sure you have apache2, php5 and libapache2-mod-php5 installed
[11:54] <Marlene> x_ just have your auto config the monitor
[11:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Marlene: We have great walk throughs depending on your hardware.. it is not a big deal
[11:54] <LinuxKid> how can install gmake on ubuntu
[11:54] <goose> Greetings, Could some one please help me with a Bluetooth issue on ubuntu, could they please pm me, any one?
[11:55] <bruenig> wepeel, really? that doesn't seem like it would have fixed permissions on stuff like .dmrc but if it works it works I guess
[11:55] <Cubey> Jowi, hmmm, now the BIOS is saying the drive linux is on is failing (according to SMART)
[11:55] <ladydoor> InsomniaCity: I believe it's technically possible using apt-pinning if you want to stick with the repositories. If not, you can always compile a package from source.
[11:55] <erUSUL> LinuxKid: gmake == gnumake? is default in linux (some bsd's install gnu make as gmake)
[11:55] <chattr> akari it is installed
[11:55] <wepeel> bruenig, yeah, but my .dmrc was at 644 as I pasted. The $HOME wasn't owned exclusively by this username, apparently
[11:55] <Jowi> Cubey, that does not sound good :/
[11:56] <erUSUL> LinuxKid: just use make
[11:56] <Marlene> where are these walk through located
[11:56] <x_> how ?! my resolution is 1024 now ... 7900 GTX  can come op to 1680 ... but i haven't in menu :-(
[11:56] <LinuxKid> i must compile whit gmake
[11:56] <bruenig> wepeel, I guess that makes sense if $HOME wasn't 755 then you would have some issues for sure
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Marlene: If you do have a BCM43xx chipset here is a useful page... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[11:56] <wepeel> bruenig, anyway, I'm still a little confused as to how that worked as well. Now all the files look to be permed correctly, and of course all dirs at 755
[11:56] <erUSUL> x_: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:56] <wepeel> bruenig, i THINK THAT WAS THE CASE
[11:56] <wepeel> oops
[11:56] <Marlene> aight thanks i gota jet i got an install
[11:56] <Marlene> lata
[11:56] <goose> Hey, could some one please help me with a bluetooth issue?
[11:56] <x_> erUSUL  ... thanks dude ... i'll check it  :-)
[11:57] <wepeel> bruenig, sometimes I get tab and caps wrong, sorry :)
[11:57] <Jowi> Cubey, backup your home dir and get yourself a new drive (just a recommendation ;))
[11:57] <bruenig> wepeel, well run find ~ -type d, you sill see that it lists all the directories in your home directory recursively, the -exec chmod 755 {} just tell it to to chmod all of that stuff, find is a very good tool
[11:57] <Hrv> hi...im having some problems with my freshly installed ubuntu. When i log in i get a error message saying the gnome settings deamon could not be loaded and a code saying: Process /usr/lib/control-center/gnome-settings-daemon received signal 11
[11:57] <Hrv> does someone know whats its all about
[11:57] <wib> is it possible to configure the behaviour of the window list at all?
[11:57] <wepeel> bruenig, yeah, I've never used find before with -type it's pretty slick
[11:57] <bruenig> wepeel, type f for files
[11:58] <akari> chattr: Surf to http://localhost/ and see if apache works. Then put a test.php file in that www directory: "<php? phpinfo(); ?>" and surf to http://localhost/test.php
[11:58] <Cubey> Jowi, already did backup the important stuff to me, the few emails i got in the past few days. hm. now it's not detecting at all. i guess that's why linux was messing up, the HD was dying.linux sure didn't detect it though
[11:58] <wepeel> bruenig, it's actually a great tip. we have solaris at the office and I can envision using this a lot there. too
[11:58] <n00dle> Has anyone here had hibernate (suspend-to-disk) stop working suddenly?
[11:58] <Nembie563> Can anyone help me install Tor?
[11:59] <Cubey> i guess it just completely died all of a sudden. it's not detecting at all now
[11:59] <chattr> akari yup i saw now
[11:59] <Jowi> Cubey, I tyink there is a smart notifier available...
[11:59] <chattr> it works
[11:59] <ladydoor> Nembie563: I'm pretty sure there's a tor irc channel somewhere or other...you should try checking their website for howtos and contact info.
[11:59] <Jowi> !info smart-notifier
[11:59] <ubotu> smart-notifier: graphical hard disk health status notifier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.28-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 10 kB, installed size 176 kB
[11:59] <bruenig> wepeel, very nice to set uniform permissions recursively without having to worry about the fact that directories require executable perms while files don't, I use it a lot when copying stuff of of my thumbdrive which is fat16 and gives a bunch of weird permissions to files when copied over
[11:59] <chattr> does the server automatically starts on startup of ubuntu?
[12:00] <bruenig> chattr, what server?
[12:00] <akari> o.O I want a graphical hard disk health status notifier!!
[12:00] <wepeel> bruenig, indeed, I generally use chmod recursively then fix whatever I need to based on file type, this is way way easier
[12:00] <chattr> bruenig apache server
[12:00] <Nembie563> Thanks ladydoor I'll check it out
[12:00] <T-Connect> Can someone help me out on installing this game please? http://www.allacrost.org/ Here is my report. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=456620
[12:00] <ladydoor> Nembie563: np
[12:00] <Jowi> Cubey, just because of that i will install the smart-notifier in case I get what you got
[12:00] <erUSUL> Nembie563: 'sudo apt-get install tor' ??
[12:00] <T-Connect> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:00] <T-Connect> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:01] <bruenig> T-Connect, close synaptic
[12:01] <winowerproblems> can anybody help me please? my user settings window won't load up, when it appears its empty and its just the frame
[12:01] <T-Connect> I did