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vzduchperhaps for Jabber when using a server that is set up according to protocol specs12:15
vzduchdunno though12:15
vzduchwhat definitely works is DCC through IRC12:15
venikGoogle talk is Jabber12:15
gabriel__how can i conect to an remote desktop with linux?12:15
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venikbut I need to trade files with ppl who use Yahoo or Google talk12:16
tfreiregabriel__: RDESKTOP?12:16
vzduchgabriel__: you can use the Windows Remote Desktop Protocol e.g. w/ krdc12:16
vzduchyes, rdesktop exists too12:16
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tfreireor nxclient12:17
gabriel__okkk12:17
vzduchwhich would require an NX server on the other side12:17
vzduchsame for VNC12:17
underdog5004gabriel__, I prefer ssh connections...12:17
underdog5004but that's not a gui...just a cli12:17
underdog5004gui == graphical user interface12:18
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underdog5004cli == command line interface12:18
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tfreirevzduch: afaik nxclient can connect to rdp and vnc sessions too12:19
vzduchno idea12:19
tfreirebu I have a nxserver here, and it is really fast12:19
tfreiremuch better than rdp or vnc12:20
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venikdoes rdesktop work under KDE, or only Gnome?12:20
SlimeyPeteboth, I think12:20
vzduchI used it on KDE before12:20
odlayes12:20
SlimeyPetefairly sure there are KDE frontends to rd12:21
tfreireI believe krfb has support for the rdp protocol too12:21
vzduchSlimeyPete: krdc?12:21
tfreireso you wouldnt need rdesktop. but I have used rdesktop on kde12:21
SlimeyPetevzduch: that's the one12:21
tfreireIt's just not tightly integrated, on the nevironment...12:22
vzduch!info krdc12:22
ubotukrdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 503 kB, installed size 972 kB12:22
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ubuntusalut12:22
underdog5004hello12:22
venikare tehre any pidgin users here?12:23
veniktehre--> there12:23
odla!ask12:23
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:23
odlavenik: what's your question ...12:23
venikwhat is the TOP LEVEL thing on the Pidgin buddy list?12:24
sfirethis is how I use rdesktop 'rdesktop -g 1024x768 -d DOMAINNAME -r sound:local -x m -P -p -z -u username x.x.x.x:port'12:24
venika buddy is listed there, as well as in the regular list12:24
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sfirethose options make it totally rock.. especially the compression and the caching12:25
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ubuntui must install kubuntu12:25
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vzduchdo it12:25
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odlaubuntu: ok ...12:26
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ramione thing that annoys me it that i cant scroll when i have the mouse in a flash animation, can someone explain why?12:27
underdog5004because the mouse input is captured by flash.12:29
underdog5004I think12:29
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ramiok because it doesnt work either with the touchpad nor the mouse, and also when i have the mouse in the flash thing writing is disabled, bit boring when you're on youtube:):)12:30
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jhutchinsvenik: It's just a default category that is sticky at the top of the buddy list.12:33
KasleProCan someone please tell me how to install my Broadcom Corporation BC4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller? i am a noobie!12:33
odla!bcm43xx12:33
ubotuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx12:33
jhutchinssfire: So post something on a web page that suggests those options and explains why they rock.12:33
odlaKaslePro: would that help?  or use ndiswrapper12:34
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venikis tehre a way to remove it?  It is useless and confusin12:34
sfirejhutchins: I probably should... took hours to get it just right (for my purpose) and working fast enough12:34
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jhutchinsvenik: Dunno.  Doesn't bother me, I put the "not otherwise categorized" buddies in it, they're the ones I'm most likely to want.12:35
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venikJuhtchis: have you been able to trade files with Yahoo Messenger users (or Google Talk)12:36
venikJhutchins: have you been able to trade files with Yahoo Messenger users (or Google Talk)12:37
jhutchinsvenik: Haven't tried.12:37
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jhutchinsvenik: If the group's empty (of displayed users) it goes away, I presume you can delte it.12:38
tfreireati just eleased a new binary driver...12:38
venikPidgin has put users into it, and I do not see how to remove them.12:39
runleveltentfreire: The best thing would be if they stopped the lockups I've been seeing for the last few versions - then after that some decent GL support wouldn't hurt :)12:41
runleveltenvenik: have you tried recent versions of kopete?12:42
venikno-- file trasfer has been a problem tehre as well12:43
venikwhen I tried it12:43
venikand I thought Kopete did not support Google Talk12:43
Raystlin_FMvenik: you can use kopete to use google talk.  You need to set it up like a jabber client with a few tweaks12:45
venikbut what will I gain over Pidgin?12:46
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Raystlin_FMi haven't used pidgin, so i'm not the best person to answer that question... i should probably try it, but i've have very good success with kopete12:47
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venikRaystlin: can u transfer files with Kopete12:47
odlavenik: yes12:47
overminddl1Okay, I have a new drive, just partitioned it with cfdisk, now how do I format it as ext3?12:48
venikI'll try it, then.  Although Pidgin also claims to be able to transfer files, but it does not, at least not here12:48
overminddl1And you have no idea how stupid I am feeling asking this...12:48
overminddl1What protocol are you using to try to transfer files in Pidgin?12:48
venikYahoo and GoogleTalk (Jabber)12:49
overminddl1Yahoo I have been able to, GTalk file transfer I have never been able to do on *nix or Windows12:49
vzduchoverminddl1: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdXX12:49
venikit works just fine on XP12:49
overminddl1Thank you so much12:49
vzduchreplace device node as appropriate12:50
overminddl1GTalk file transfer through Jabber has never been available for me on Windows, I am pretty sure I have the newest version12:50
overminddl1of course12:50
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venikI am trading files on Gtalk with another windows machine with no problems (Windows to Windows)12:50
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overminddl1I have attempted to trade files between Jabber (Windows) and GTalk (he is no doubt running windows), never worked12:51
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veniksometimes network administrators block file trasfer12:52
overminddl1Not that, Jabber does not support GTalk's protocal yet as it tries to use a different one, Jabber(Pidgin) to Jabber works fine in Pidgin12:52
KasleProI'm not able to get my broadcom wireless device to work. Anybody? I'm a newbie, so take it slow12:52
overminddl1And I am the admin on my network...12:53
overminddl1Gull freak I hate Wireless devices with Ralink chipsets now, consider yourself lucky12:53
venikwhat do u use as the jabber ID in Goggle Talk?12:57
venik(in Kopete)12:57
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overminddl1venik:  Domain:  gmail.com   Resource:Home    Connect port:5255     Connect server:talk.google.com12:59
overminddl1Those are the only things I messed with12:59
overminddl1(and my username of course)12:59
overminddl1in pidgin anyway, should be the same settings for any jabber client01:00
venikbut the ask for Jabber ID01:00
venikthe--> they01:00
overminddl1your gtalk username I would guess?01:00
venikKopete does not ask for domain or connect server or connect port01:02
overminddl1I just opened Kopete for the first time and got it working with gtalk01:02
overminddl1Your user id should be, for example:  OvermindDL1@gmail.com01:02
runleveltenkopete ftw.01:02
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runleveltenMind you, I used gaim for the longest time, because it was better.01:02
overminddl1but?01:03
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overminddl1Oh, make sure to enable SSL, google uses it01:03
overminddl1gtalk*01:03
runleveltenGotta move like ninja between competing K apps and G apps if the other one gets better, that's just how it is :)01:03
pukoHi guys01:03
overminddl1Heh, I use pidgin as it works everywhere, consistent interface01:03
pukoCould someone of you help me with a problem?01:03
overminddl1Greetings01:03
runleveltenA jabber ID is user@server01:04
pukoIt's about GRUB, there's an error during the Kubuntu installation01:04
runlevelten!ask | puko01:04
ubotupuko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:04
overminddl1and the gtalk part of the @server will be @gmail.com01:04
venikwhere do I tell Kopete what my nickname will be using the Jabber protocol?01:04
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overminddl1the part before the @server part?01:04
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pukoUhm, so any1 could help me with it?01:05
pukoThere's an error: Couldn't install GRUB on hd0 :(01:06
overminddl1Outside of my realm of knowledge (mostly)...01:06
overminddl1what filesystem is hd0?01:06
pukoI tried already many different things, but nothing seems to help01:06
runleveltenweird, I write the oddest scripts when I'm drunk.01:06
overminddl1er, not filesystem, was it a windows drive before?01:07
pukowell, I got 3 partitions, 1st one is formatted to ext301:07
overminddl1make sure it is a static, not dynamic drive?01:07
pukoyes01:07
overminddl1ah, not that then01:07
overminddl1outside of my knowledge in that case01:07
runleveltenI've found one here that looks like it's supposed to feed alerts from kopete into enemy territory/tc:E01:07
pukotoo bad :(01:07
runleveltenso I can see them in-game... except iirc kopete popups just appear over the game window anyway.01:08
pukoIt seems like he can't see the drive or smth01:08
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overminddl1runlevelten: redundency, gotta love it01:10
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replmanHi! I'm trying to install kubuntu on my new system, but the live-system doesn't find my hdd. I have a Core2Duo, MSI P35 Neo Board and an ide-hdd. Any ideas?01:11
runleveltenoverminddl1: heh yeah. It's the randomness of the stuff I write that gets me.01:12
runleveltennot so much work stuff, stuff like SudokuGrid.01:13
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runleveltenI mean I don't even bloody like Sudoku!01:13
runleveltenheh01:13
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bauerevolution ? how do i export evolution so i can import it on my grand new ubuntu :-)01:18
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venikNews flash: File transfer (yahoo protocol) seems to work with Kopete01:19
venikwhere do the files go?01:19
sparrmy firefox closes at random when it loses focus.  help?01:19
venikanswer: to the Home folder01:20
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redhahello, where are the beryl error logs?01:23
runleveltensparr, you mean it crashes?01:23
sparrrunlevelten: possibly, but the trigger seems very un-crash-like01:23
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runleveltenwhen you say loses focus, do you mean it crashes immediately when you click another window, or that it disappears when you minimise it?01:24
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lontrakmilo is the onscreen LCD volume display right?01:24
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tomassohello01:40
tomasso:)01:40
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robert__hey01:56
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Zekeyo01:57
robert__anyone know what's up with flash on kubuntu/ubuntu? it used to work perfectly after installing it from the repos, but now it doesn't. sites complain about me not having the latest version.01:57
Zekewhat's the wget comand for reinstalling nvidia drivers?01:57
Zekethe one that removes the old xorg-conf and adds the new drivers01:58
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robert__anyone got a clue about flash?01:59
stonedyou know01:59
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stonedI like kubuntu much better than ubuntu01:59
stonedand I also like #kubuntu better than #ubuntu01:59
robert__they're both good imo01:59
stonedI loath gtk+/202:00
robert__i think kde is more powerful, but ubuntu has a more elegant interface02:00
Zekefunny...I tended to get more resposes out of #ubuntu than #kubuntu02:00
stonedabsolutely hate it02:00
thoreauputicstoned: #ubuntu suffers from the fate of all large and popular channels02:00
stonedI dislike gnome dialog design, gui, structure02:00
stonedthoreauputic: well, I also use debian, and #debian is the best imo02:00
robert__that's your right to dislike it02:00
stonedof course :)02:00
robert__something for everyone02:00
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thoreauputicstoned: #debian is more polite than it used to be a few years ago when I was a regular there ;)02:01
intelikeythis lag is killing me.   anyone got help for a dialup connection ?02:01
stonedbut I am not disliking for no reason at all.  My reasons, with which people do not have to agree to, are quite valid02:01
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stonedat least to me02:01
stonedanyway, kubuntu is nice02:01
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robert__intelikey.... not for konversation, but you can speed up your browser a little with firefox setting http pipelining to more or less double the requests it makes now.02:02
stonedI don't yet know how it is structured and laid out but I am finding my way02:02
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stonedI installed it, and got rid of it, a few times.  Now I'm back on it and decided its not the distro that pisses me off02:02
robert__i've been a kde user off and on since 9802:03
stonedits the #ubuntu that pissed me off and I always just said fsck it I hate ubuntu02:03
stonedbut I've been using linux since 94, and debian since 9702:03
robert__i switch between kde and gnome02:03
intelikeyrobert__ i don't use konversation   bx    and i don't use ff   elinks   both of which should improve dialup speed but i'm still lagging like 30seconds02:03
stonedI've tried them all, but I would have to say that honestly I like Qt better than Gtk202:03
robert__is your connection timing out or just lagging?02:03
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stonedits not just the toolkit, its the dialog design, and overall user experience02:03
stonedin kde everything works together02:04
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stonedgnome feels like someone just hacked together a whole buncha crap02:04
robert__the kde gui is a lot rougher around the edges than gnome is, but that should change in 4.002:04
stonedI like usability, eye candy is 2nd to me02:04
BlindSIdestoned: i would say the same for kde02:04
stonedfor example, with gnome, I just siimply cannot use it.  With some hacking, I can use xfce, but definitely not kde02:04
asdfdsfMuch more eye candy in KDE, but you have to configure it for yourself.02:05
ArtiFACTdo we know of a place for good but cheap IDE ribbons?  I prefer the round cable type.02:05
asdfdsfIf you want to change how gnome looks and works, tough.02:05
stonedI like no panels or taskbars, I set rightclick on desktop to do app menu for kde, and left click to windowlist menu.  Xfce can do this too, so I can use it, but definitely not gnome02:05
robert__xfce is broken terribly. if you like simple and elegant, try enlightenment or windowmaker02:05
stonedasdfdsf: I don't  :)02:05
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robert__stoned, then use fluxbox or blackbox with no taskbar installed02:06
stonedrobert__:  but eyecandy matters too02:06
stonedI like kde because it is very themeable02:06
asdfdsffluxbox is excellent02:06
stonedwhich is a relative statement02:06
asdfdsffully supportive of running kde apps too02:06
stonedit is not excellent for me :)02:06
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robert__stoned... go look at some of the stuff you can do in enlightenment... better looking than any other UI out there imo02:06
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intelikeycan someone tell me the modules for a     intel 82557/8/9 ethernet prow 100 ?02:07
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stonedrobert__: first time I used englightenmend was in 1998 on redhat 6.2.  It was the default wm in there I think, at least the cd I got02:07
robert__lot has changed since then02:07
asdfdsf:|02:07
stonedrobert__: I fell in love.  However I am not in love with it anymore.02:07
stonedI like kde, just can't get away from it02:07
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robert__kde is too bloated imo02:08
stonedkde has me wrapped around her finger like a little hussy02:08
asdfdsfrobert__: Yu must really hate gnome then02:08
robert__they need to whittle it down to windowmaker level of stuff02:08
stonedkde is not bloated.02:08
stonedhow is kde bloated, please tell me02:08
robert__kde is bloated. even some of the devs think so02:08
asdfdsfNo they don't. Turning your changelog on its head working back to 0.1 is for gnome.02:08
asdfdsfNo other software works like that.02:09
stonedits a desktop environment, and you're asking it to be as slim as a window manager, yet still be a desktop environment.  Do you see the problem here?02:09
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robert__there has to be a limit on how much crap one should release out of the box02:09
purpleposeidonMy old kernel died.... :/02:09
stonedthen in this regard I would have to say ubuntu is pure bloatware itself02:09
stonedas well as kubuntu02:09
stoneddebian ftw?02:09
stonedanyone02:09
purpleposeidonand broke everything, mouse, internet....02:09
stonedsee your logic?02:10
intelikeycan someone tell me the modules for a     intel 82557/8/9 ethernet prow 100 ?        i can't even google for it with this connection so slow ???02:10
asdfdsfSimplicity over all started out as a set of excuses for lazy gnome developers. It has since become so entrenched that even its poor deprived users believe it, and it's spreading like a disease to other projects.02:10
robert__in all honesty, if i could get freebsd running on this laptop, i'd be there running fluxbox, but there are no freebsd drivers for my wi-fi card02:10
stonedasdfdsf: well said02:10
purpleposeidonso using an old one saved me02:10
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Darkrifti tried running a game, and it changed my screen res, but im unable to change it back02:10
Darkriftanyone know how i do this?02:11
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stonedtry ctrl+alt++/i02:11
Darkrifti tried the slider in the monitor config, and it said it changed it, but its still at the same res02:11
asdfdsfDarkrift: alt+f2 and type "krandrtray"02:11
Darkriftthere we go02:11
Darkriftty mucho02:11
robert__anyone know why flash is weird out of the box now with kubuntu/ubuntu. it just used to work. now all sites complain about the wrong version02:11
robert__not wrong, but outdated02:12
asdfdsfnp02:12
stonedrobert__: just install the latest flash in ~/.mozilla/plugins02:12
stonedit will be used02:12
stonedremove other flash packages first though02:13
robert__it goes there by default, but the browser is not seeing it, not in kubuntu or ubuntu02:13
stoned*think*02:13
stonedhmm02:13
robert__i even forced konq to reload plugins... no joy...reboot...no joy02:13
stonedthere is no need to reboot a linux system unless you want to load a new kernel02:14
stonedthis isn't windows.02:14
robert__i'm aware of that02:14
robert__but i'm getting tired of nothing working02:14
stonedrebooting still won't do anything.02:14
stonedrobert__: welcome to linux02:14
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robert__i've had success with rebooting in the past when nothing else works02:14
stonedrobert__: nothing just works, despite all the advertisements02:15
stonedrobert__: make it work yourself02:15
robert__stoned... like is said, i;d be on freebsd or openbsd of my wi-fi card was supported02:15
intelikeycan someone tell me the modules for a     intel 82557/8/9 ethernet prow 100 ?        i can't even google for it with this connection so slow ???02:15
robert__linux is great, but i prefer the stability of BSD and the fact that everything gets updated at the same time as an OS whole.... less breakage of packages and dependencies02:16
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stonedopenbsd is a compromise02:17
stonedfreebsd is meh02:17
stoneddebian > *02:17
asdfdsfsmoe bsd is nice. some bsd developers are not.02:17
robert__compromise?02:17
spawn57openbsd is focused on security02:17
stonedit all depends on your needs and wants02:17
asdfdsfdebian? Again... heh02:18
spawn57I woouldn't call that a comprimise02:18
stonedsecurity is a compromise between privacy and usability02:18
stonedmore secure == less usable02:18
asdfdsfI like hardware support, and lots of it.02:18
stonedthis is inherent in security programming02:18
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robert__i find openbsd very usable. used it for years, but my card is not supported02:18
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stonedhence, not usable/02:18
stoned.02:18
spawn57if you're thinking of openbsd as a desktop, then you're barking up the wrong tree02:18
stonedspawn57: well put, which is what I'm trying to say02:19
runleveltenGNU/Linux + KDE is the desktop for me.02:19
stonedGNU/Hurd is also nice, but not much hw support02:19
runleveltenNothing else touches it for a GUI desktop.02:19
stonedstable as a rock for me though02:19
Darkriftwhats the easiest way to upgrade wine?02:19
spawn57stoned: hehe02:19
robert__not true... i've worked for some of the best security companies out there, and a lot of the engineers used obsd as a desktop with no problems02:19
stonedDarkrift: to the packages in ubuntu? sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade02:19
stonedDarkrift: for latest version, you must build it from source02:20
Darkrifti think i have the latest from there02:20
Darkrifti c02:20
runleveltenthere are binary packages linked from winehq which are about 8 releases ahead of the repos mind you.02:20
stonedDarkrift: sudo aptitude install module-assistant build-essential && sudo m-a prepare && sudo apt-get build-dep wine && wget http://winesourcehere.tarball02:21
runleveltenie: it ain't git, but it's current release02:21
spawn57robert__: II see what you mean, but I don't think it'll be up to date enough or easy for a casual user though02:21
stonedDarkrift: download the wine source, unpack it, ./configure && make && sudo make install02:21
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robert__not for casual users, no02:21
robert__i agree with u02:21
stonedI agree with y02:22
runleveltenMeh, you can have the roughly same desktop on your linux and bsd systems.02:22
robert__but for geeks with time and who enjoy that kind of thing, there's nothing better02:22
spawn57Darkrift: easiest way is to actually add the repository to your sources.list, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layla02:22
spawn57http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb02:22
Darkrifti love this ****ing channel02:22
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Darkrift**** = frig :)02:23
stonedspawn57: you can build the bleeding edge wine with my method or cvs/svn whatevet uses, or you can rely on pre compiled binaries which might be weeks/months old02:23
runleveltenxD02:23
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spawn57weeks isn't too bad, is it.02:23
stonedfor some people02:23
nassimhi02:23
stonedhi02:23
spawn57yah02:23
ardchoillehi02:23
spawn57ohh crap I better get to work02:24
runleveltengit02:24
runlevelten;)02:24
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stonedguitar institute of technology?02:24
stoned!git02:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about git - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:25
spawn57actually02:25
spawn57git institute of technology02:25
runleveltenthe vcs in question :)02:25
spawn57gotta make it recursive02:25
nassimi had installed my nvidia gforcr fx 5200,i can see the splash screen <NVIDIA> but02:25
felixi need help! how can i change the resolution of my display?02:25
ardchoillerunlevelten: git = get in southern US>02:25
ardchoille?02:25
ardchoilledubya git02:25
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stonedgit == get out of here02:25
stonedor run along02:26
felixmy video card is a nv geforce02:26
stonedor away with you little packet02:26
nassimbut when i start beryl . i got this messages:02:26
stonedmy tiny little cute packet02:26
runlevelten!vcs02:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vcs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:26
stonedI will send my packet to the internet02:26
stonedit will have a blast.  I hope my packet comes back home tom e02:26
Darkriftw00t02:26
Darkriftyou guys rock02:26
nassim**************************************************************02:26
stonedDarkrift: thank you02:26
runleveltenstoned: I'm sorry, you've used the wrong sort of string on this packet.02:26
nassim* Beryl system compatiblity check                            *02:26
nassim**************************************************************02:26
Darkrifttoo bad other distro's didnt have channels like this02:27
runleveltentake it back and try again02:27
nassimDetected xserver                                : NVIDIA02:27
stonednassim: stop posting02:27
nassimChecking Display :0 ...02:27
Darkriftthis channel is the only reason ive been able to completely rid myself of windows02:27
nassimChecking for XComposite extension               : passed (v0.3)02:27
stonednassim: you should ask in #beryl also02:27
nassimChecking for XDamage extension                  : passed02:27
runlevelten!pastebin02:27
nassimChecking for RandR extension                    : passed02:27
nassimChecking for XSync extension                    : passed02:27
nassimChecking Screen 0 ...02:27
nassimXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".02:27
nassimRoot visual is not a GL visual02:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:27
ardchoille!paste | nassim02:27
ubotunassim: please see above02:27
nassimok02:27
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spawn57Darkrift: =D02:27
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stonednassim: and don't run your system as root02:27
stonedffs02:27
stonedfinal fantasy six02:27
stonedi mean02:27
stoned:D02:28
spawn57hmm i gotta try playing that02:28
spawn57on my ds02:28
stonedubotu: hi02:28
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:28
dwidmannI've been meaning to play six too ... just haven't found the time :\02:28
stonedubotu: how old are you?02:28
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stoneda dumb bot02:28
nassimso ? what can i do ?02:28
ardchoille!bot | stoned02:28
ubotustoned: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:28
runleveltennever any time for games these days :(02:28
felixubotu: can you help me change the resolution of my display?02:28
ardchoille!fixres | felix02:28
ubotufelix: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:28
stonedardchoille: I am aware of that.  I'm being goofy02:29
spawn57felix: ubotu is a bod02:29
spawn57bot02:29
nassimi have tried many ways02:29
felixubotu: thanks!02:29
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)02:29
draik!botsnack02:29
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!02:29
ardchoillestoned: Ah, ok. it was my day to be goofy yesterday02:29
stonedardchoille: in fact, I am acting like a two year old.02:29
draikHello ardchoille02:29
runleveltenman these skeeto bites are getting big. I look like I've been shot.02:29
stonedas if two year olds could use irc.02:29
ardchoilleHi draik02:30
nassimhow can i reset my x server  to initial state ?02:30
stonednassim: initial state?02:30
nassimyes02:30
felixspawn57: sorry. i don't know. newbie here.02:30
draiknassim: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:30
ardchoillenassim: Did you make a backup before editing xorg.conf?02:30
dwidmannstoned: don't say something like that or someone somewherre might teach a two year old to do it.02:30
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nassimno02:30
dwidmannstoned: just for spite, of course.02:30
nassim:p02:30
stonednassim: follow what the top comments in /etc/X11/xorg.conf says if you edited your file by hand.  if not, then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:30
runleveltenmy two-year-old restarted X the other day after her mum locked it.02:31
ardchoillenassim: See what draik posted, that should help you02:31
nassimthanx draik02:31
runleveltenI kid you not02:31
draikYW nassim02:31
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nassimanother question02:31
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runleveltenaccidentally, of course, but it was very funny because it _looked_ intentional02:31
stoneddwidmann: no, ardchoille accused me of acting like a two yar old and refused to help me, and said this in a very very mean way.  I was being sarcastic.02:31
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nassimhow to change my keyboard to azerty instead of qwerty ?02:31
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dwidmannstoned: all good and well. I can't get thru my days without a heavy dose of sarcasmn either :)02:32
runleveltenget a screwdriver, and swap q with a and w with z xD02:32
stoneddwidmann: :)02:32
ardchoillerunlevelten: lol02:32
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stoneddwidmann: what is the travesty with people?  It seems as if everyone is so very eager to pass judgement on others, by observing maybe as little as 2-3 lines they say on irc.02:35
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stoned"Yeh, you said 2 lines, but by what you said, I can tell your kind of people" is what comes across from these judgement passers.  anyway, I'm gonna go get a newer version of ktorrent this one seems to constantly want to crash02:36
Darkriftanyone here play WOW ?02:37
stonedDarkrift: the last warcraft I played was WC2 on windows 9502:38
Darkriftheh02:38
Darkrifti played 1 2 and 302:38
Darkriftfriend is wanting me to try wow on a private server02:38
stonedi didn't care much for 302:38
Darkriftfinally got it installed in wine (2 days effort)02:38
stonedi disliked diablo, but loved diablo 202:38
Darkriftheh02:38
stonedsimle mindless hack n slash02:38
Darkrifti was a diablo2 god02:38
stonedespecially with some mods from d2mods.com02:39
marko_does someone know how can i check how many free space do i have on a hard drive02:39
marko_?02:39
stonedthat game in single player or private realm is friggin awesome02:39
Darkrifton christmas eve one year, i gave away 20 thousand soj's to n00bs02:39
stonedmarko_: df -h02:39
stonedmarko_: kdf02:39
stonedmarko_: man df02:39
Darkriftmy characters name was SantaClaws (assasin)02:39
Darkrifthehe02:39
Darkriftthat made me known all across bnet02:39
Darkriftquick q, how do i make beryl not autoload anymore02:40
stonedDarkrift: I was called VS-TheGrim02:40
Darkrifti decided my lappy runs better without it02:40
marko_thanks02:40
stonedwe had a group named after texan black/death metal band called Vesperian Sorrow02:40
stonedVS02:40
DarkriftI started a clan, and after 2 months, we had 350 members02:40
stonedthere were a lot of VS members then as soon as I discovered mods I dropped bnet02:41
stonednever went back again02:41
stonedDarkrift: we concentrated on the quality of players, not quantity02:41
stonedand mostly it was family and friends02:41
Darkrifti used to dupe items, so i was able to give items to players who helped the clan and didnt just screw around, and that made users more loyal and happier02:41
stonedand thier friends etc.02:41
Darkriftmy mom, gf, sister and brother used to play with me :)02:41
stonedthose things turn me off02:41
Darkriftgf is now wife02:41
Darkriftlol02:41
stonedis she hot?02:42
Darkriftwhen she wants to be02:42
stonedor did you HAVE to marry her?02:42
Darkriftlol02:42
Darkriftno02:42
stoneddid you feel obligated to marry her or did you really actually want to?02:42
Darkriftno shotgun wedding02:42
stonedI'm just saying.  You can lie to whoever you want, but you can't lie to yourself.  If this isn't for you, get out right now while you still can.02:43
stonedI've been with my woman for 21 years02:43
stonedand I'm still in love with her just like the first time I saw her, its pretty sentimental and lovey duvvy stuff02:44
stoned;D02:44
stonedDarkrift: so anyway, if you still play diablo, check out d2mods.com02:44
ardchoille!ot02:45
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:45
rrbiz!kernel02:47
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild02:47
stonedis there a network activity monitor for kicker?02:52
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chaoticis there anything like daemontools not counting the mount command02:53
chaoticfor linux02:53
stonedchaotic: for copy protection stuff huh02:53
stonedno02:53
stonedchaotic: if you pay, you can have that stuff in Cedega02:54
chaotic.ccd  .nrg.bin .cue  mounting02:54
stonedafaik, Cedega emulates almost all game copy protection methods02:54
stonedchaotic: for that you will have to get conversion tools02:54
chaotici haerd nero linux02:54
stonedbin > iso ccd > iso etc. etc.02:54
stonedI have never heard of anything of the sort02:55
stonedthere is a cdemu02:55
stonedI forget what exactly it supports02:55
stonedprobably just bin/cue02:55
runleveltenstamps out mono from this machine02:55
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runleveltenBegone, wooden horse of Microsoft!02:56
replmanHi!02:56
runleveltenhello.02:57
evilmmmmm gimp02:57
replmancan anybody help me getting kubuntu installed on my computer? THe problem is, that the live-system does not recognise my IDE-Drive.02:57
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amrushdoes anyone know if ubuntu GTK+already installed ?02:58
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amrushhello .. Does anyone know if GTK+ is already installed in Ubuntu ?03:00
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knappWhat channel do I need to be in for help w/ ipod, video, thinliquidfilm, ffmpeg, etc....03:07
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labroidAmarok help needed:  fresh install of Feisty, Amarok hangs on start.  Saw similar notes in FAQs but fixes there don't help.03:13
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labroidhello?03:15
labroidHmmm... Can't tell if this channel is dead or I just can't see people's input.  Can someone respond, please?03:18
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thoreauputic:)03:18
labroidthank you!03:18
thoreauputiclabroid: it comes and goes...03:18
labroidthor:  I think I've been here before and it was hopping.  I expected somethign with 200 users on...03:19
labroidoh, well.  I guess another night.  Thanks!03:19
thoreauputiclabroid: You weren't very specific about your issue - have you tried installing libxine-extracodecs ?03:20
labroidthor:  no.  Amarok hangs right out of the box on a new load.  I don't have a sound card installed, but just wanted to run amarok for the podcast downloads. I'm wondering if no sound capability is hanging it...03:21
thoreauputicah - could be03:21
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thoreauputictried running it from a terminal to see any error messages?03:21
labroidgood idea; I'll try that.03:21
thoreauputicfirst thing to try , always :)03:22
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thoreauputicone of the nice things about linux is the diagnostic capabilities :)03:22
chaoticguys theres an update to fin repositories03:22
chaoticfirefox03:23
chaoticmt03:23
chaoticnot  sure   if its in the ubuntu or the multiverse03:23
thoreauputicfirefox is in main03:23
chaoticah ok03:23
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labroidwell, it gives me errors about invalid input devices, then after a while says "[Loader]  Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong?"  Amusing.03:24
labroidI've left it to run in this state for some time (assuming it was building a media library or something) and it never un-hangs --even hours later03:25
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knappI need some help with thinliquidfilm. It converts the video fine, but when I transfer it to my ipod, the video doesn't play, but the audio does.03:25
intelikeywhat driver does this need  ?   http://intelikey.pastebin.us/3832903:27
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Biovoreintelikey: thats in the kernel..03:28
Biovoreits nick03:28
Biovore(nic)03:28
BiovoreI think its call 8139.o03:28
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intelikeyBiovore what driver does it need ?03:28
intelikeyoh 8139   looking03:28
intelikeyhave two matches  8139cp   8139too03:29
maturanohi all!03:29
maturanoany speak spanish here?03:29
intelikey!es | maturano03:30
ubotumaturano: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:30
maturanoje :-) just asking....03:30
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intelikeyhmmm still can't ping 192.168.0.2 from 192.168.0.1   crossover cable   with ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.? up   on both ends,     any clue-by-four ?03:33
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Vistasucksokay i so need some help03:33
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damien__Hey guys how can add somehting to my /etc/apt/sources ?03:34
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intelikeymanual edit + apt-get update03:34
Vistasucksdo an sudo vi /etc.......03:34
damien__Ty :)03:35
intelikey!repos | damien__03:35
ubotudamien__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:35
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VistasucksI have an ati card in my laptop and when i run Desktop Effects i get this "The Composite extension is not available"03:36
Vistasucksany thoughts ?03:36
intelikeyhmmm still can't ping 192.168.0.2 from 192.168.0.1   crossover cable   with ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.? up   on both ends,     any clue-by-four ?03:36
intelikey!ati | Vistasucks03:36
ubotuVistasucks: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:36
chaotichow do i install something with .run files03:36
Vistasucksthanks03:37
chaotickate just keeps coming up03:37
martoyachaotic: chmod +x thefile.run && ./thefile.run03:37
chaoticchaotic: chmod +x name.run && ./name.run03:38
chaoticlike that03:39
thunderboltHmmm, the development version of the GIMP is having brush redrawing issues....03:39
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darkaoshola03:44
ses59_i am trying to get a new modem to work on kubuntu and now understand why I can not make it work03:44
ses59_I need help on making an install file03:45
darkaoshi there03:45
martoya!es darkaos03:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about es darkaos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:45
darkaos???03:45
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ses59_the modem drivers are at www.camnix.com/drivers03:45
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darkaosyou are triying to use a internal or external modem?03:46
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ses59_it has serval listed and i need to make an install file from source code03:46
ses59_i need to know how to make the file03:46
darkaosmmmm03:47
ses59_i used tar and -zvf and made the folder but it does not list an install file03:47
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darkaosyou tried ./config...??03:47
ses59_i am missing something in the .make setup03:47
rayluyou mean ./configure?03:47
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ses59_internal03:48
rayluses59_: paste the results of ./configure03:48
rayluwhat are you trying to compile anyway?03:48
ses59_yes it might be ./config03:48
rayluit's not ./config =\03:49
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darkaosyea configure03:49
ses59_a modem driver03:49
darkaos./configure03:49
darkaosmake03:49
darkaosmake install03:49
raylu(i think he knows the commands, darkaos)03:50
ses59_but do i use slmdm 2.8.1 2.8.2 2.8.3  or 2.7.1403:50
raylugenerally...unless otherwise specified, you should go with the latest03:50
ses59_ok03:51
ses59_2.8.303:51
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darkaosok03:53
darkaosim stut up03:53
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ses59_ok just did the tar -zxvf and have a new folder on desktop and have cd into that folder is the next command ./configure03:56
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ExplicitEhi every body03:57
ses59_i do not know the commands for make install03:58
raylu!hi03:58
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:58
ExplicitEoOo TQ03:58
rayluses59_, did configure run successfully?03:58
ExplicitE(^-^)03:58
ses59_hello explicite03:58
ExplicitEhi ses5903:58
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ses59_i have not run configure yet will do that now03:58
lontrawhat's the kde package for the science/math programs?03:59
ExplicitEi got a copy of ubuntu 6.06 LTS ^^03:59
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raylui see03:59
raylulontra, packages are specific programs. you mean repository?03:59
ExplicitEbtw where i can get decoder so i can play VCD and DVD file03:59
raylubrb03:59
ses59_i tried sudo ./configure and get error command not found04:00
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BluesKaj!codecs |  ExplicitE04:01
ubotuExplicitE: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:01
ExplicitETQ04:01
chaoticchaotic@chaotic-desktop:~/Desktop$ chaotic: chmod +x BNR2beta-0.14.7.run && ./BNR2beta-0.14.7.run04:01
chaoticbash: chaotic:: command not found04:01
chaoticwhat should i do04:01
BluesKajand04:01
BluesKaj!libdvdcss2 | ExplicitE04:02
ubotuExplicitE: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs04:02
stonedhow do I make the 'windows' key popup kde menu?04:02
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lontrahuh?  i am talking the math, teaching, science programs installed by default in a vanilla kde ...04:02
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CUcan some one tell me why im getting "The Composite extension is not available" when i run  Desktop Effects04:03
chaotichow do i install .run files04:04
ses59_thank you ubotu i wish i had found this site 3 weeks ago and saved me a lot of trouble04:05
underdog5004chaotic, try just doing this in a terminal: sh filename.run04:05
ses59_i am now going to the computer and try scanmodem04:05
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ses59_have a nice evening and i have bookmarked this site on my pbwiki page04:07
chaoticwow thats amazingg04:10
chaoticithe binary newsreader has an installer it looks identical to windows in staller04:10
chaoticeven creates a desktop icon for u04:12
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converterhali04:20
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keisangisomeone could help me to install support for this printer :  sharp mx2300fg ?04:36
keisangii see this printer listed in supported device on kde printer wizard04:37
keisangiwhen i install it and try to print something, i hear the printer doing stuffs.. so there's a response, but nothing come out ?04:37
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chaoticif u have a windows partition  mounted04:46
chaoticcan u load wmplayer  with wine04:47
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hitmanWillychaotic, ive never had any luck with that04:51
underdog5004chaotic, ...why would you want to?04:52
hitmanWillychaotic, at least with the new ones, it does some kind of wga check which of course wine fails04:52
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hitmanWillyDasKreech, live cd, i see :)04:54
chaoticit doesnt checkkkk  wga every time u load  it04:58
chaoticplus   i have 10 on it04:58
chaotici   just want something a can have a library of and alsa    watch audio  and video within04:59
DasKreechhitmanWilly: gutsy FTW04:59
hitmanWillychaotic, why not just amarok?05:01
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trakinashas anyone here ever used k9copy?05:19
willis_not tried that yet.05:19
willis_i need to some day.05:19
trakinasi get an error i shouldnt.05:20
bradcould someone possibly help me set up my wireless card?05:25
bradI have an Asus A8V-E motherboard with onboard wireless, I can get the wireless build with a websearch in a sec05:25
brador I'm sure someone knows the command ^_^05:25
jonowhats a good program on linux to replace a program such as Ares that does both p2p searching and Torrents?05:25
bradalso, I've decided to buy the book Ubuntu for the Non-Geek, so I will in the future be less clueless on IRC channels hopefully05:26
willis_ktorrent does p2p and has search features.05:26
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jonoi'm on a network that limits my torrent traffic05:28
willis_theres the protocall encryption feature. :) that may help05:28
jonohrmmmm05:29
jonoall yopu have to do is check the box for it?05:30
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willis_Ktorrent has a check box for 'protocal encryption' and only allow encrypted connectons.05:32
jonowhat program would you recommend to download single music tracks?05:32
klobsterwhy does system settings >> system services move so slow?05:32
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klobsterjono: apple music store?05:33
vitalyHolo05:33
jonoklobster: Thanks...but i don't support apple05:34
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hitmanWillyklobster, the apple music store won't work on nix due to the 'fairplay' DRM scheme05:36
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willis_legalmp3.com :)05:36
hitmanWillyemusic myself05:36
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trakinassoulseek myself05:36
jonoall mp3 downloads are legal for me...i live in Canada :)05:36
trakinasthen local tore. =D05:36
willis_I just get out the large box of cd's ive gotten.. and rip a few more to my hd.05:36
jonoand i'm a poor student05:37
klobsterhitmanwilly: thats changing05:37
trakinasjono: same!05:37
hitmanWillyklobster, S...L...O...W...L...Y05:37
klobstertrue05:37
jonodo many people still use limewire?05:38
hitmanWillyi will say that apple has the best chance of getting the music industry to stop using DRM05:38
klobsterhey do i need the kdm or gdm to be started up at boot?  if it doesn't, Xorg will still call it, no?05:38
willis_you can use 'startx' to start X :)05:39
hitmanWillyklobster, nope, Xorg will call whatevers set up in ~/.xinitrc05:39
klobstergood.05:39
hitmanWillyklobster, or, if that doesn't exist, whatever the default wm is05:39
klobsterthank you.05:40
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bradcould someone possibly help me create a partition out of free space on my hard drive05:45
bradessentially, I decided it would be best if I put the OS and system files on one partition and media files on another05:45
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willis_gparted from a live cd is handy for that.05:45
bradok, I was going to ask if that was the best way to do it05:46
ADiCT3DCan someone help me im getting an error out while trying to compile firefox: configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required05:46
willis_but are you trying to merge 2 data partitions?05:46
bradI simply didnt want to do it all haphazardly05:46
bradno05:46
bradI want the OS on one, and a seperate media partition05:46
bradfor music, videos, etc05:46
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bradi did see the option in the install, did a lot of partitioning, I just want to make sure I Do it right05:46
bradand dont mess up my system which is working great05:46
willis_i tend to use lots of extra hard drives. :)05:47
bradand I downloaded QTparted but it wont let me make an ext3 which I believe is the better type of hard drive?05:48
braddoes it just need me to do it from a live cd instead of using the hdd?05:48
bradbut, essentially what I want is for the media drive to show up on my desktop like C drive if I were using windows05:49
willis_you do NOT (cant?) use gparted/qtparted on a mounted drive05:49
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willis_Thats why one uses them normally from a live cd.05:49
DasKreechbrad: do you have a /home partiton?05:49
willis_showing on the desktop = trivial05:49
ADiCT3DCan someone help me with a firefox ./configure error? Im new to compiling everything and when i try to compile it errors out with "configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required" How do i fix this can someone help?05:50
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bradI have the one main partition mounted as root, simply a 20 gigabyte partition on a 160 gb drive05:50
bradits ext 3, I have a home folder, it isnt its own partition05:50
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willis_so how many partitions total do you have?05:51
Manson05:51
bradtwo, a /root partition, the swap partition, and free space05:52
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bradI have like 132 gigs of unpartitioned space05:52
DasKreechbrad: if I may a /home partition is a good idea05:52
DasKreechWhile you are doing partitions :)05:52
willis_depending on the size of the freespace. :) ya could just make a partition there and mount it whever ya want05:52
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bradwhen you say a /home partition, do you mean for all of my files etc05:52
bradbecause that is what i am talking about05:52
willis_ - /home is where all users 'home' directories are at.. correct.05:52
bradso can I do this from the partitioning screen  on the install on the live cd without messing it up05:53
willis_mounting /home to its own parittion, or drive is quite common.05:53
DasKreechbrad: all of your settings are kept in /home/username05:53
willis_use gparted or whatever, and create a new partitionon the unallocated space.05:53
bradI'm aware, right now that is on my root partition05:53
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willis_You do hae some 'unallocated' ?    'free space' is not the same as 'unallocated'05:54
bradyes, unallocated, unpartitioned, cleared it all off, and only put the install on 20 gigabytes of 16005:54
braddidnt do anything else with the other space05:54
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bradso that my music and video files which are on an external hdd right now could have s afe and stable partition to move back to05:54
bradI've just put it off a bit...05:55
DasKreechwhen You reinstall (many years from now hopefully) it will keep all your data and settings05:55
hitmanWillybrad, my suggestion would be to mount the unallocated on /home05:56
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hitmanWillywow, should probably scroll up next time :)05:56
ADiCT3DCan someone help me with a compiling error? "configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required"05:57
bradok05:57
bradwill it cause problems that currently it is putting stuff in a home folder on the root partition?05:58
trakinasADiCT3D: which app?05:58
ADiCT3Dim compiling firefox05:58
willis_you will MOVE your /home data over to the new partition, then mountit as /home permently :)05:58
trakinaswhy is that?05:58
willis_or mount it, then link /home to it.05:58
trakinasyou have firefox on reps05:58
ADiCT3Dit is crashing05:59
ADiCT3Di want it compiled myself05:59
braddo I want to tell it to be a primary partition or extended partition?06:00
willis_i doubt if that will help.06:00
willis_brad,  when in doubt.. use primary06:00
WhtWolfTeraDyneADiCT3D: Did you set the build options?06:00
ADiCT3DWhtWolfTeraDyne: Build option?06:01
WhtWolfTeraDyneADiCT3D: Hold on, I'll get a link.06:01
WhtWolfTeraDyneADiCT3D: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Configuring_Build_Options06:01
ADiCT3DWhtWolfTeraDyne: so this isnt an easy task to build FF?06:02
WhtWolfTeraDyneThe Firefox\Thunderbird\Sunbird\SeaMonkey compiling system isn't the standard "Configure, Make, Make Install"06:03
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ADiCT3DWhtWolfTeraDyne: ffs it keeps crashing with flash :( and yeah..06:03
Alisa'''06:04
WhtWolfTeraDyneADiCT3D: If you follow the build documentation, it's not too hard.06:04
willis_Im not sure that recompiling FF would fix the flash crashing problem06:04
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ADiCT3DWhtWolfTeraDyne: I guess i'll pass on compiling it them :P06:04
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K-RyanAnyone know anything fun to do while on a console session?06:04
WhtWolfTeraDynewillis_: I'll agree with you on that.06:04
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willis_K-Ryan,  theres some asci-animation demo thats cool to watch.. but i forget its name06:05
WhtWolfTeraDyneK-Ryan: nethack?06:05
willis_K-Ryan,  or use mplayer and its aalib feature to watch the matrix in ascii animation! :)06:05
Alisa 06:05
Manson 06:05
WhtWolfTeraDyneAlisa: ?06:05
K-RyanWhtWolfTeraDyne: Tried it, too tough06:05
K-Ryanwillis_: No freaking way, it can do that?06:05
Alisa     06:05
bradnow that I have this new partition how do I mount it to home from gparted?06:06
willis_brad,  gparted dont do the mounting06:06
Alisaso many people06:06
Mansonya ya06:06
willis_brad,  edit the fstab  and put the right entry in there..06:06
willis_!mount06:06
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter06:06
ADiCT3DGparted is best06:07
willis_or use the gui tools (but it pays to learn about the fstab file)06:07
ADiCT3Dfstab is easy to use06:07
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bradty06:07
WhtWolfTeraDynevideo*06:07
willis_boot, click, click,, next.. enter user/pass.. wait... reboot. :)06:07
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Sayershowdy06:08
K-RyanHi Sayers06:08
ADiCT3Dim proud to have abandoned microsoft winblows a few weeks ago06:08
Alisahi06:08
Sayershow does Compiz fusion run on KDE?06:08
WhtWolfTeraDynewillis_: Yes, it's that simple, but I'm watching it because I want to see how this guy explains it.06:08
Mansonhi alisa06:09
Alisahi manson06:09
Manson:)06:09
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Alisagive me your foto manson06:09
Manson:-D06:09
WhtWolfTeraDyne!offtopic06:09
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:09
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stonedMarilyn Manson06:09
Sayersuhm, Compiz on kubuntu = Working?06:10
K-Ryan!compiz06:11
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:11
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SayersK-Ryan: Oh no, Compiz /fusion/06:13
K-Ryan!compizfusion06:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compizfusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:13
K-Ryan!fusion06:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:13
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K-RyanSayers: Sorry, I don't know anything about it so the best I can do is check the bot triggers, sorry.06:13
SayersWell it works fine with Ubuntu so Im sure it works here06:14
K-RyanSayers: Should06:14
dsmith__is kubuntu capable of running on a Mac?06:15
SayersOnly if it's an intell chip06:15
WhtWolfTeraDyneSayers: Wrong. There's a PPC version as well.06:15
Sayersdsmith__: Only if its a processor06:15
Sayers:-)06:15
dsmith__I was asked today06:15
WhtWolfTeraDyneSayers: O_O; That'll work.06:16
dsmith__so intel processor, PPC distro?06:16
willis_ive had kubutun on my ppc mac..06:16
SayersGet the PPC arch of it06:16
WhtWolfTeraDynedsmith__: No. Intel mac uses the i386 version. The older PPC macs need the PPC version06:17
dsmith__oh!, ok06:17
WhtWolfTeraDyne!mac06:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:17
WhtWolfTeraDyne...06:17
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willis_ppc version is  sort of getting phased out isent it? dont hear much about it any more06:17
dsmith__hehe06:17
WhtWolfTeraDynewillis_: They've ended official support for PPC.06:17
Mansonwhere i may download codecs for videofiles? and VLC player too?06:17
WhtWolfTeraDyne!vlc06:18
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs06:18
WhtWolfTeraDyneThat doesn't help...06:18
willis_WhtWolfTeraDyne,  i was thinking that..06:18
WhtWolfTeraDyne!info vlc06:18
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB06:18
WhtWolfTeraDyne!codecs06:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:18
Mansonthanks06:18
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hitmanWillyManson, i would suggest downloading the actual vlc source vice getting the one from the repos, it has a lot of stuff disabled iirc06:19
K-RyanWhat's iirc?06:20
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hitmanWillyif i remember correctly06:20
K-RyanOh, thanks06:20
WhtWolfTeraDyneK-Ryan: If I Remember\Recall Correctly06:20
WhtWolfTeraDynetoo late06:20
K-RyanWhtWolfTeraDyne: Thanks anyway ;)06:20
hitmanWillyManson, one of the very few instances i ever reccomend that06:20
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WhtWolfTeraDyneYou know. It's odd. If I'm on my laptop, I'll start looking at my desktop more, and if I'm on my desktop, I'll keep looking back at my laptop...06:21
K-RyanThat's a bit of an oxymoron06:21
WhtWolfTeraDyne?06:22
K-RyanBecause the more you look at your desktop, the more you look at your laptop, but the more you look at your laptop, the more you look at your desktop.06:22
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WhtWolfTeraDyneK-Ryan: If I'm ON. Keyword being "on". When you're "on" a computer, it usually means you're using it at that moment.06:23
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K-RyanWhtWolfTeraDyne: I know, I'm just teasing =P06:23
WhtWolfTeraDyneAnd that previous sentence I made is why I only scored a 56% on the writing section of the COMPASS test I took earlier.06:24
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randyHowdy I need some help, every time i try to ./configure i get checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables as an error06:25
WhtWolfTeraDyne!b-e06:25
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:25
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hitmanWillyrandy, you need build-essential06:25
K-Ryanrandy: You most likely don't have the build-essential package06:25
randywhats !b-e do?06:26
K-Ryansudo apt-get install build-essential06:26
K-RyanDO that06:26
K-Ryan*Do06:26
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WhtWolfTeraDynerandy: The "!" is what causes the bot, "Ubotu", to post one of his factoids into the chat.06:26
WhtWolfTeraDyne!bot06:26
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:26
willis_!we love you06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about we love you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
K-Ryan!botsnack06:27
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!06:27
randyhaha06:27
WhtWolfTeraDyneI really should remember to turn down the volume before starting an episode of The Linux Link Tech Show. Dann still hasn't gotten the volume right...06:28
randyTHANKS!! whew I was getting frustrated06:28
K-RyanNo problem06:28
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randyoh wait06:29
randychecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!06:29
randy!X libraries06:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x libraries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
randydrats06:29
sayersCome on, please msg ubotu06:29
randyIm new to this IRC thing >_<06:29
sayersdo /msg ubotu Hey06:29
willis_i think theres the xlibs-dev package for that.06:30
willis_thers so many dev packages.. its scary06:30
WhtWolfTeraDynesayers: I thought "msg"ing was turned off for unregistered users...06:30
hitmanWillyrandy, probably xorg-x11-dev or something like that06:30
WhtWolfTeraDynerandy: "sudo aptitude install xorg-dev"06:31
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randyhaha i tried "sudo apt-get install xorg-dev"06:32
WhtWolfTeraDynerandy: That will work as well.06:32
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WhtWolfTeraDyneAFK. Going to take a shower...06:33
DasKreechWhy the heck isn't there a Seamonkey package06:33
DasKreech!ru06:34
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke06:34
randy...seamonkey package?06:34
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patrick_Does anyone know why I would be able to enable plugin for Banshee and receive radio play in Ubuntu. However, in my Kubuntu environment its saying no codec.06:34
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patrick_I tried to find what multimedia codecs were different from the two desktops. Haven't found anything out of the ordinary.06:38
ShockValueis there a good kde-type mysql frontend? k06:39
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Gtwydoes anyone know of a cheap, but reliable, hardware RAID controller that is very compatible with linux? hotswappable is a plus06:40
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ShockValuegoogle "3ware"06:41
GtwyShockValue: thanks06:41
ShockValueexcellent hardware + linux support06:41
ShockValueand the older models on ebay go for "cheap" depending on your buget :)06:41
ShockValue(which is still too expensive to me :)06:42
milesis there any flashplayer solution for AMD64?06:43
milesbesides gnash (which is hardly a solution)06:43
DasKreech!ppc06:44
ubotuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ06:44
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mileswas that ppc directed at me?06:44
DasKreechrandy: Yeah seamonkey06:46
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kirkeHi,  somebody knows how to edit "/etc/resolv.conf" PERMANENTLY ??06:47
intelikeywell i'm less ignorant than i was 8 hours ago06:47
intelikeykirke could make it immutable   but that's not the "right" way06:48
kirkeok, tell me 'the right way'.06:48
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randyok i hate to be a complete newb but, now i am getting a KDE configure error. "Checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, youve chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!"06:48
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intelikeywell that's the one i don't know06:48
intelikey!b-e | randy06:49
uboturandy: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:49
intelikeyrandy kdelibs-dev  or something like that is the package it's looking for06:50
kirkeintelikey, so, How can I make it 'immutable' ?06:50
intelikeykirke sudo chattr +i /etc/reslov.conf06:50
kirkeintelikey, what does that?06:51
intelikeythere's no telling what all that will break tho06:51
intelikeykirke makes the file immutable06:51
intelikeycan't be changed.06:51
mileswat is the command to find out what kernel you are running?06:51
milesi thought it was 'uname -r'06:51
intelikeyuname06:51
milesecho 'uname -r' i mean06:51
kirkeintelikey, and, how can I make it mutable again?06:51
intelikeyyeah miles uname -a06:51
milesk thx06:51
intelikeykirke -i06:52
intelikeykirke sudo chattr -i /etc/reslov.conf06:52
intelikeykirke i think    man chattr    would be in order06:52
kirkeintelikey, ok thanks!06:52
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intelikeywelcome06:53
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thunderboltHello, how's it going?06:53
yotsuyaHi all, I am using text install (7.04), it freezes at 85% saying "Installed openoffice.org-java-common". Any ideas?06:53
intelikeykirke there is probably something in /etc/network/  that can do basicly the same thing   but i am still network illiterate06:53
DasKreechrandy: You need the Kde-devel headers06:54
milesyotsuya: you know, oddly enough, i had that same problem06:54
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milesyotsuya: what version of ubuntu are you installing ?06:54
DasKreechyotsuya: run the CD check on it06:54
arunhow do i move stuff from 'lost & found' to it's proper location in the kmenu?06:54
milesi know 7.04, but ubuntu, ubuntu-server, kubuntu06:54
intelikeysounds kinda like java asking for a contract agreement06:54
milesthat exact same thing happened to me on a alt-install of ubuntu...i ended up DLing ubuntu-server instead06:55
yotsuyakubuntu 7.04 on a Sony laptop. I ran the check before, maybe should run it again?..06:55
arunyotsuya: what's the problem06:55
milesalternate install of kubuntu halts at 85%06:56
arunah06:56
milesi remember letting it sit for about an hour when i was doing it at work and it still didnt move06:56
yotsuyaI am running the alt-install because the graphical installer freezes on my laptop seconds after it starts06:56
yotsuyait freezes at the same place, just as miles says it did in his case06:57
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milesyotsuya: hate to tell you this, but i never found a solution and just DL'ed a different version of ubuntu06:57
milesbut this was on a server at work, not my box im on now06:58
yotsuyalet me check what's available for download...06:58
yotsuyamiles: from the official site, I get links to "desktop" and "alternate" for multiple architectures. What did you install?07:00
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arunanyone use ubuntu server edition here?07:01
milesat work i do07:02
milesarun07:02
milesyotsuya: i was trying to install 7.04 ubuntu07:02
arunhow has your experience been with it miles/07:02
milesit was alt-install07:02
yotsuyaWait, a miracle happened! On a third attempt, after 20 minutes of sitting idle at 85%, it moved on and finished the installation!07:03
arunas in, are you using it as a server or desktop?07:03
milesreinstalled with ubuntu-server 7.0407:03
milesarun: i run a ubuntu-server at work07:03
arunyotsuya: congrats07:03
milesits pretty nice07:03
aruncool.. i just read the info on the site, it seems ridiculously easy to set up a server using ubuntu07:03
milesi  had a little difficulty getting tasksel to set up a lamp stack07:03
yotsuyaThanks, it's all because of you guys. Software respects people who can fix it, and starts to work when they are around :)07:04
milesglad i could help?07:04
milesarun: ive only used ubuntu-server and sles 10 for a server, ubuntu smoke sles07:05
thunderboltHmmm, anyone ever use Grumpy here?07:05
miles!grumpy | miles07:05
milesdont know what it is07:06
arunwhats grumpy07:06
thunderboltIt was supposed to be sort of like Debian Experimental for Ubuntu.07:06
aruni love the names of linux software.. yesterday someone asked for aircrack and airsnort heh07:06
thunderboltGrumpy Groundhog.07:06
milesdebian experimental?07:06
milesi thought ubuntu was a derivative of debian07:07
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DasKreechthunderbolt: It never really existed07:07
thunderboltDasKreech: Ah, thanks.07:07
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thunderboltIt is, but Debian Experimental is where all the really new packages go, that are *really* likely to break your system. If I understand it properly, even more unstable than Sid.07:08
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milesyea, i just looked it up07:09
craftycornerhello07:09
COONiAfr ?07:09
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craftycornermy nautilus keeps crashing07:09
craftycornercan i uninstall then reinstall?07:10
miles!nautilus | craftycorner07:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:10
milesdoes mark shuttleworth even like computers?07:10
milesor is he just an entrepenuer07:10
Daisuke_Idoin other words, nautilus is persona non grata in the kubuntu world.07:10
yotsuyaWhat's the difference between the server and "standard" ubuntu? With Windows, it's the "premium" features that you are supposed to pay for. How does it work in open source world?07:11
milesyotsuya: server doesnt have a gui number 107:11
Daisuke_Idoyotsuya: the server version is customized with packages that would be required on a server07:11
milesyea, the server install includes an option to install lamp or dns07:11
arunno gui??07:12
milesi havent looked into it too much either, but id imagine the kernel is optimized for server processes07:12
milesyea, its all text-mode07:12
milesaka leet mode07:12
intelikeyi think the second box here has a loose ide cable....     getting some strnge drive actions.07:12
arunyotsuya: higher security as well07:12
arunno ports are open07:12
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yotsuyaseems like a configuration option: reconfigure kernel for server / reboot?07:14
yotsuyaWhy different install?07:14
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arunyotsuya: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition07:14
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_dacanyone here from France?07:15
intelikeyok someone tell me how to share the dialup connection with LAN ?07:16
WhtWolfTeraDyne!fr | _dac07:16
ubotu_dac: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:16
_dacty07:16
yotsuyaOK, a newbie question... Adept Updater asks me for a root password, but I never set one. What do I do?07:16
milessudo passwd in console07:16
arunyotsuya: it's the password you set for your username07:17
miles"sudo passwd"07:17
arunsame password07:17
arunthe one you set during installation07:17
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intelikeyyotsuya it's not asking for the root password it's asking for your passwd07:17
yotsuyaBut that's the password for an unprivileged account, isn't it?07:17
intelikeynope07:17
arunno, just use it07:17
intelikeyyou are "root jr."07:18
arunhaha07:18
WhtWolfTeraDyne!sudo07:18
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:18
arunwe're all rooting for you07:18
arunok sorry.07:18
mileso nose07:18
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milesi never understood how that was supposed to make ubuntu secure07:18
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DasKreech!fr | COONiA07:19
ubotuCOONiA: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:19
milesif they cracked ur password, making them type it to escalate privelages isnt really mitigation07:19
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milesat all07:19
yotsuyaYeah, I ran sudo under many unixes, and I understand what it does, I am just confused about the "root" password being the same as my regular (non-root) user07:19
milesyea same07:19
WhtWolfTeraDynenetsplit...07:19
mileseducate me07:19
intelikeymiles the theory is "they don't know your user name, so they have to crack two things the user name and the passwd"   in relity most people show the user name when they login to irc    and that's where most crackers would be anyway....07:20
DasKreechyotsuya: Server has no packages that take up "useless" memory07:20
milesso you guys know my password now?! o nose!07:20
yotsuyaDasKreech: give me an example?07:20
intelikeymiles and your login name "miles"07:20
milesstill, knowing the user is half the battle07:20
milesyotsuya: example = no gui07:21
DasKreechyotsuya: Like a Pretty GUI07:21
milesbeat u to it07:21
arunanyone here use ardour?07:21
DasKreechOr an ugly one07:21
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milesshoot..so i should probably switch my irc name huh07:21
DasKreechyotsuya: If you like you can make a second user. That user will have no root privvies at all07:21
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yotsuyaOh, I see, it's different from Windows, heh07:21
WhtWolfTeraDynearun: #audour is their IRC channel07:21
arunit's ardour07:21
arunthanks though07:21
DasKreechyotsuya: The way it normally works is that there is root and others07:22
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WhtWolfTeraDyneSorry. I ment #ardour07:22
DasKreechHowever since everyone knows there is a root thats the aacount they try to hack07:22
WhtWolfTeraDyneI'm seeing it in the channel listing and I still misspell it.07:22
miles127.0.0.1 - hack me07:22
thunderboltI can beat that, I'm at 0.0.0.0, hah!\07:23
DasKreechthe Ubuntu way has no account available named "root" so the real "root" account is one unknown to people casually trying to hack your machine07:23
mileshaha07:23
milesoooooooo07:23
milesso thats why they do it...i got it07:23
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milesthats why you cant log in as root at the splash07:23
yotsuyaI see, that's exactly what MS guys got wrong - I want to be "root" and a regular user, why do I want two accounts?07:23
DasKreechHowever yeah.. if they do get your password then you are grossly bent over07:23
milesha07:24
DasKreechyotsuya: Well you should never ever ever run your narmally daily stuff in the root account07:24
DasKreechnormal07:24
milesyotsuya: regular user account for regular use, like irc...root account for administration like installing new software or editing a config file07:24
yotsuya...so, in Windows world, you have to be root all the time, and all the security measures don't mena anything07:24
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DasKreechWith the ubuntu way you can use your new super account for daily things and elevate when you need to07:24
milesvista kinda copied ubuntu with that07:25
yotsuyamakes sense07:25
thunderboltI'm more afraid of someone deleting all the stuff in my home directory, then separating root privileges to another account doesn't really help...07:25
DasKreechhowever if even that makes you nervous you can make an even less priveliged user (your second user by default)07:25
milesbut it sucks07:25
DasKreechmiles: copied Unix :)07:25
mileseep07:25
milesnever used it07:25
ShockValueis there a package someplace for QtMyAdmin  ?07:25
DasKreechthunderbolt: Yeah In that case lock down your box07:26
DasKreechShockValue: Ehh?07:26
thunderboltOf course :)07:26
DasKreechmiles: It's very very very annoying07:26
DasKreechI've been asked 6 time to authorize to press one button07:26
yotsuya"21392 updates available"? How can THAT be?!07:26
mileso yea07:26
DasKreechit's also very inconsistent07:26
milesi got vista on my work laptop07:27
milesits a joke07:27
DasKreechyotsuya: Floating point error?07:27
ShockValueDasKreech: its a mysql admin package.. pretty popular.. but i cant find it in aptitude or any .deb packs on the web07:27
miles"are you sure you want to run this?" ...uh yea thats why i clicked it07:27
ShockValueerrr synaptic.. whatever the hell this thing is :)07:27
yotsuyaDasKreech: no, just asked for updates07:27
DasKreechShockValue: MyPHPadmin?07:28
ShockValueyes, like that, but not php. qt07:28
DasKreech!find qtadmin07:28
ubotuPackage/file qtadmin does not exist in feisty07:28
mileso that is sick07:28
milesi didnt know about07:28
miles!flex07:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:28
DasKreechShockValue: Maybe packages.ubuntu.com07:28
mileswoops07:28
miles!find flex07:28
ubotuFound: flex, flex-doc, flex-old, flex-old-doc, qobex (and 9 others)07:28
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DasKreech!search qtadmin07:28
ubotuFound:07:28
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DasKreechhi intelikey07:29
intelikeyDasKreech07:30
DasKreechnikkiana: Hiya07:30
nikkianahi DasKreech07:30
miles!help07:30
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:30
DasKreechnikkiana: how are you?07:30
nikkianaDasKreech, not bad :)07:31
DasKreechExcellent! :)07:31
yotsuyaOK, folks, another newbie question... how do I know if my wireless works?07:32
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miles"iwconfig"07:32
milesdo you know what card it is yotsuya07:32
intelikeyhmm seems i have to install "iptables" to be able to forward the ppp0 to eth007:33
yotsuyaok, it gives me a bunch under "wlan0" - what's to look for?07:33
milesyea07:33
intelikeyyotsuya you could use iwconfig  maybe ?07:33
intelikeyoh sorry i'07:34
intelikey'm late07:34
Gtwy3ware is a little pricy07:34
Gtwyany other decent hardware RAID controllers that support linux?07:34
sfireintelikey: I got a great guide for that earlier07:34
sfireintelikey: http://www.netadmintools.com/art216.html07:35
sfireworks flawlessly07:35
sfireoops07:35
sfirewrong guide07:35
yotsuyaIt says ESSID="" - guess that means I'm not connected?07:35
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milesyotsuya : "iwconfig wlan0 essid <<enter your network broadcast id here>>"07:37
milesyou probably gotta put a sudo before all that though07:37
miles!essid07:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about essid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:37
intelikeysfire :)07:37
sfireintelikey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9137007:38
intelikeyk07:38
sfirethat was the guide07:38
intelikeywhat port is irc ?07:38
miles6667 i think07:38
Riyoxke666707:38
intelikeyand ?07:39
milesno and07:39
intelikeythere is another very common port07:39
mileso07:39
milesi dunno then07:39
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milesi know 666707:39
intelikeyyeah i remembered that one.  but the other is in the 9k range i think07:39
intelikeynot sure.07:39
yotsuyamiles: now it reads ESSID:"right value"07:40
yotsuyamiles: Am I connected, though?07:40
sfireI had to do a 'sudo ifup wlan0'07:41
milesis "right value" your essid?07:41
yotsuyayeah07:41
milesif it is, yea do "sudo ifup wlan0" though i usually do "ifdown wlan0;ifup wlan0"07:41
milesif your network has a key, make sure to do "iwconfig wlan0 key <<ur key here>>"07:42
milesif its wep, if its wpa, u need the wpa_supplicant and thats a whole new can of worms that i never got figured out07:42
yotsuya"Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0"07:42
milesdo u need a key?07:43
yotsuyasure, I'm not running an open network07:43
milesenter "iwconfig wlan0 key <<ur key here>>" in case u havent yet07:44
milesit might be easier to get a network manager package from the repos07:44
milesbut i guess you cant if ur wireless doesnt work..hmm07:44
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yotsuyaI have the wired connection up07:45
intelikeycrap.  have to install cron and log rotate.   not that i'll ever use them...07:45
intelikeyi think i even installed passwd and adduser     this box is starting to look generic, rather than one of mine.07:46
milesdoes it have glibc??07:47
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okhello07:48
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oko wow, i didnt know thats how you changed your name07:48
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miles.07:48
intelikeyyeah   i can't find a way to run without it.07:48
intelikeylibc that is07:48
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thunderboltStupid Radeon 7000, doesn't work with the GIMP, or Blender or vegastrike...07:49
intelikey-:- miles is now known as ok07:49
intelikey<ok> hello07:49
milesyea?07:49
milesi was just testng something07:49
yotsuyaAbout the wireless key... what do I put in, if I have "WPA-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access Pre-Shared Key)07:49
yotsuyaset on my router?07:49
arunthunderbolt: ATI cards are bad for health. Eat nVidia.07:49
milesyou need the wpa_supplicant07:49
milesand i dont know anything about it other than i couldnt get it to work07:50
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thunderboltarun: I think that's a good policy.07:50
miles!counter-strike07:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about counter-strike - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:50
thunderboltbe right back.07:50
yotsuyaok... any other methods of setting up a protected WiFi netowrk?07:51
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thunderboltCurses, does anyone have any tips to get the X server to play nicer with a Radeon 7000? it doesn't seem to be working well with the XOR command...07:54
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thunderboltOr barring that, a good nVidia card for Ubuntu?07:55
thunderboltAGP port...07:56
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sfiremy new PC is comming with a junk ATI... plan to sell it as soon as it arrives (the video card)07:57
aruni use an nvidia geforce 6150, it works pretty well07:57
sfireATI is just worthless07:57
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thunderboltHere's a spectacularly dumb question: Is there anything I should do before popping the new card in? Or does Kubuntu do through something akin to a 'discover hardware' phase for graphics cards on bootup?07:59
NightBirdturn the computer off07:59
thunderboltWell, yes :)07:59
thunderboltAnd de-static myself.07:59
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NightBirdI don't believe kubuntu does a hardware discover for the video card07:59
NightBirdso you should probably make sure the default driver is selected for the X server08:00
mo0osahNightBird: it should....08:00
marcelolso how many people have started up use Compiz Fusion08:00
mo0osahmarcelol: isn't it still alpha?08:00
NightBirdmo0osah: that rarely stops people from using fun programs :P08:01
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Daisuke_Idomarcelol: if the control panel worked for me, i would08:01
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NightBirdthat having been said, no I haven't played with Compiz Fusion08:01
mo0osahI guess i'm too paranoid that my system would get crapped08:01
mo0osahmarcelol: have you?f08:02
marcelolyeah....just read it's in Tribe 3....was curious if anyone thought it was anywhere ready for primetime08:02
marcelolI'm debating it...08:02
mo0osahmarcelol: are you using compiz or beryl atm?08:02
marceloljust got Beryl working comfortably on my system08:02
Admiral_Chicagomarcelol: i'm looking to install it but the beryl wiki is down and i use that for my information08:02
mo0osahmarcelol: cool, what kind of gfx card do you have?08:03
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Daisuke_Idospeaking from experience (this isn't beryl related) but one of the first things i would tell every kubuntu user to do upon getting their system set up is install yakuake08:04
mo0osah! mo0osah08:04
Daisuke_Idothat's probably the tool i love most of all08:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mo0osah - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:04
mo0osah!yakuake08:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:04
marcelolold Gfx card08:04
marcelolGeForce Go 420008:04
marcelol4 year old laptop08:05
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mo0osahohh, my notebook is over two year old as well08:05
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Ice9hello08:05
mo0osahDaisuke_Ido: so what's so cool about yakuake?08:06
Ice9I'm having some sound issues, just installed ubuntu, I'm seeing that there aren't any linux drivers for my card, is there a workaround to get this working?08:06
Daisuke_Idoterminal emulator that sticks around08:06
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Daisuke_Idof12 to drop it from the top of the screen, other times it's not visible08:06
Daisuke_Idono need to ever open konsole, you always have a terminal handy08:07
mo0osahIce9 what kind of card?08:07
Ice9SB X-fi fatality08:07
marceloland kudos go to crdlib who helped me work it out....08:07
sfireIce9: the latest ones are not supported08:07
sfireIce9: there is only one X-fi supported and its baised on the audigy 2 chipset08:08
sfire(thats why its supported)08:08
marcelolyou have to turn on "Copy" in Rendering Path and Disable Yields08:08
sfireanything with the new chipset isn't working08:08
marcelolbut it works08:08
marceloljust wish the decorator repositories worked08:08
Daisuke_Idomarcelol: i haven't had any problem with them08:09
Daisuke_Idoi get the error calling tar a couple times, but nothing serious08:09
marcelolI can't dload anything from the "officia" repositories08:09
Ice9which x-fi is supported?08:09
sfirethe lowest model08:09
sfireI was looking just last night for a new sound card08:10
sfireits the 53 dollar basic one... none of the others are supported08:10
Ice9think using those drivers would let me have some sound?08:10
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sfireno08:10
sfiretotally different chipset08:10
Ice9so there's no workaround or anything?08:10
sfirenope08:11
marcelolit always say "error calling tar"08:11
sfirethey can't make the card even make a noise... and creative are being dicks08:11
sfire(as always)08:11
Ice9freakin' unreal08:11
sfireI know... I wanted one too08:11
marcelolsfire....I remember when I worked at IBM, and we were trying to get SoundBlaster 1 support in OS/208:12
mo0osahDaisuke_Ido: is it possible to make yakuake transparent?08:12
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marcelolCreative was being a dick in the face of a 60Billion dollar company go figure08:12
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marcelolso anyone know how to make emerald properly use the GPL'd themes ?08:12
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Daisuke_Idomo0osah: not sure, never tried08:16
marcelolHmmm08:16
Daisuke_Idobut it doesn't really need to be, it's not out unless you're using it08:16
Admiral_Chicago#ubuntu-effects is your friend08:16
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marcelolg'night folks...thanks Admiral_Chicago08:17
mo0osahDaisuke_Ido: true, true08:17
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intelikeyanyone see jucato in the last few days ?08:18
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Daisuke_Idohmm, no, i haven't.  odd08:19
intelikeyi think he found another pinguin08:19
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mo0osahdoes compiz fusion have official website? too lazy to google08:23
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mo0osahor atleast a list of supported graphics card like on beryl website08:24
Daisuke_Idocompiz fusion = beryl + compiz.  if it works with beryl, it'll work with this.08:24
jombeecompiz fusion f-ing rocks08:24
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mo0osahDaisuke_Ido: good to know08:25
intelikeywould you like to forward ports from one or more external IP addresses to one or more internal IP addresses (yes/no) :  <<<<  i'm pretty sure that's what i want.   but i'm network illiterate,   what ports do i forward from ppp0 to eth0  for internet sharing ?08:25
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intelikeyanyone ?08:26
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mo0osahintelikey: i thought port forwarding was for services such as ftp so they get to the right pc on the network...08:28
surgyi installed windows on a second hard drive, kubuntu was allready installed..... and now it auto boots into windows everytime, how do i fix grub so that i have a choice again?08:28
jombeeIf I remember right you just have to set the default gateway correctly08:28
Admiral_Chicagomo0osah: opencompositing.org08:28
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intelikeymo0osah ok. you the man.   i've never done this before08:29
jombeeintelikey: are you using ubuntu and do you have 2 network cables08:29
mo0osahsurgy: http://apcmag.com/5459/dualboot_ubuntu_and_windows_xp08:29
intelikeyjombee dialup  yes ubuntu server08:30
jombeeI see a howto to do it with the desktop edition, but I'm sure it will work the same way.08:30
jombeehttp://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html08:30
intelikeyok  i'll look08:31
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jombeeit's not very well written so you will likely have questions if you've never done anything like it before08:32
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surgyim sorry u must have miss understood me, i know how to dual boot, i just had to install in the wrong order this time, and now grub isnt showing and its auto booting strait into windows without giving me a choice or even showing that grub still exsists, can someone help me restore my grub to functionality pleasE?08:33
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jombeesurgy, the easiest way to do it is to boot from livecd08:33
intelikeyhmmm webadmin08:33
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surgyjombee: and then come back here?08:34
mo0osahwill kubuntu gutsy have compiz fusion preinstalled aswell?08:34
jombeesurgy: yeah that'd be best08:34
mo0osahsurgy: if you read that site, towards the end they tell you how to fix the grub08:34
Almighty_HenaroHey guys I'm having trouble getting this done -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-09167948173503db5923da717a106f0c3aac1cd208:34
jombeesurgy: it's a few commands but they're not that hard08:34
Almighty_HenaroAnyone think they can help me?08:34
Almighty_Henaroe_e08:34
surgylol and i have a windows problem too.... but you guys dont want to help me with that im sure08:34
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mo0osahwhat's the windows problem? they're usually easier to solve :)08:35
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y_AlmightHenaroWhen I do "find /boot/grub/stage1" in grub I get this "Error 15: File not found"08:35
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surgylol go ahead and flame me but i have good reasons, but i installed win 98 SE updated it and got everything working, except for my video card, seams to be having driver conflict problems, its an Nvidia XFX 6800 XTreme i downloaded and installed about 30 different drivers now and none seam to work, it always says "cannot find an nvidia graphics card"08:36
y_AlmightHenaroThat's some crazy machine code08:37
y_AlmightHenaroHit it08:37
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surgymo0osah: can you help?08:38
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hamadooohello guys can someone tell me how to use joh ripper program under ubuntu08:38
mo0osahsurgy: well.... i know your graphics card is too new for windows 9808:38
surgymo0osah plus im getting "windows protection error, you must restart your computeR" on almost every reboot08:38
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intelikeysurgy that's from a messed copy of the sys.ini08:38
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mo0osahsurgy: does it have like a 60 second timer or something?08:39
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surgymo0osah: does what have a timmer?08:39
mo0osahthat restart your computer thing....08:39
sfireanyone know how to use 2 internet connections at once in kubuntu?08:39
surgymo0osah: no it freezes till i press cntrl+alt+del08:39
intelikeyor one of the windows config files.   it rotates each boot   i have one bad copy and every other time the kids boot windows 9x they get that same error   "every other time"08:39
sfireI've got a wired connection and a wireless (wireless is via a neighbors wireless router)08:39
sfirecan I use both at once?08:40
jombeesurgy: download latest nvidia 6 series driver boot into safe mode delete all display adapter drivers reboot install new drivers08:40
mo0osahohh nevermind i remember seeing that before... i installed a firewall and that fixed it.... i guess my installation cd of windows was virused....08:40
hamadooohelp plz08:40
surgylol08:40
surgymo0osah: intelikey: any help on the video card thing?08:40
surgythere are several drivers out there, just none seam to work08:40
intelikeyno sorry surgy08:40
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hamadooosurgy can  you  help plz08:41
surgyyes?08:41
intelikeysurgy my nvidia card works with the win9x driver08:41
surgywhatcha need bro?08:41
surgyintelikey: but is it an xfx card?08:41
mo0osahsurgy: this might be lame but did you try official nvidia drivers?08:41
hamadooocould you tell me how to use john ripper under ubuntu08:41
surgymo0osah: yes 5 of them08:41
mo0osahlol nevermind08:42
surgyhamadooo: never heard of it08:42
hamadooook08:42
surgycould i be having a conflict?08:42
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hamadooowhat about you moosh ??????08:42
mo0osahsurgy: try on #windows ... they might know more08:42
surgyif so how do i fix?08:42
intelikeyno it's an older riva08:42
surgylol08:42
intelikeysurgy there is a ##windows channel here08:42
jombeesurgy: you have to boot into safe mode08:43
surgyi thought that was a joke there really is a #windows lol08:43
intelikeyno not #windows   ##windows08:43
mo0osahhamadooo: don't really know.. can google for you08:43
Daisuke_Idohamadooo: JTR is software designed to circumvent password protection, and not for legitimate purposes.  you're unlikely to get any help with it here.08:43
intelikeynote surgy  #blah is reserved for registered "official" channels   ##blah is  open  "non-official"  support08:44
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hamadoooi need it for this purpose .... i just want to try and see my password if its strong or not08:44
jombeeanyone know anything about qemu-ifup?08:44
intelikeyfreenode politics ya know08:44
Daisuke_Idothen google it08:44
underdog5004hamadooo, surrrrrrrrrreeeeee you do...08:45
underdog5004lol08:45
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mo0osahhahah08:45
Daisuke_Idounderdog5004: i'm calling BS on this one08:45
intelikeyhamadooo use john the ripper08:45
Daisuke_Idointelikey: that's EXACTLY what we're talking about :P08:45
intelikey!info john08:45
ubotujohn: active password cracking tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6-40ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 548 kB, installed size 1172 kB08:45
Daisuke_Idosee my message above.08:45
hamadoooyeah intelikey im asking about it08:45
intelikey                               ^08:45
hamadoooi installed it in my ubuntu but don't  know how to use it08:46
intelikeysudo apt-get install john ;john /etc/passwd08:46
mo0osahhamadooo: after you get it to work, let us know how secure your password is ;)08:46
intelikeyerrr /etc/shadow  actually08:46
Daisuke_Idoif you can't figure it out, you shouldn't be messing with it to begin with.08:46
hamadoooloool08:46
mo0osahintelikey: what does it crack and what methods does it use?08:47
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido i learned everything i know about linux by the try it and reformat methood08:47
hamadooointelikey ....  how do i add a  password ?08:47
intelikeyhamadooo you add an account     sudo adduser blah08:47
intelikeymo0osah it's in main   install and   man john08:47
underdog5004wow...08:48
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surgy?08:48
hamadoooAdding user `blah' ...08:48
hamadoooAdding new group `blah' (1008:48
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mo0osahsurgy: ??08:48
hamadooowroong .... how can i remove the account ?08:48
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hamadoooforgot to change blah08:49
hamadooo:)08:49
intelikeymo0osah i don't mean that disrespectfully   just been long time sense i "john'd" anything08:49
Tm_Thamadooo: well, guess, addusr, might be delusr?08:49
Tm_Thamadooo: there's logic, you know08:49
hamadooolool08:49
hamadoooim just new in linux08:49
intelikeyme uses useradd blah      useradd -d blah08:49
intelikey:)08:49
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mo0osahintelikey: nah, thanks for the info... need to get my lazy butt to do something productive08:50
Tm_Tintelikey: that works too08:50
surgymo0osah08:50
Tm_Thamadooo: do "apropos user" to have all commands who seems to figgle users, I think08:50
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mo0osahsurgy: yea?08:50
intelikeyTm_T  is ipmasq  the best/only way to share ppp0 with eth0  ?08:51
surgymo0osah: you said my name?08:51
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hamadooohamadooo@Q8boy-laptop:~$ sudo delusr blah08:51
hamadooosudo: delusr: command not found08:51
Tm_Tintelikey: I have no idea, I just use firestarter for that08:51
Tm_Thamadooo: user08:51
intelikeyoh   ok.08:51
mo0osahsurgy: probably a typo... my bad08:51
Tm_Thamadooo: and I don't know is it that, just guessing really (:08:51
intelikeydeluser != delusr08:52
hamadooonow i added an account ...... with blah08:52
mo0osahTm_T: is firestarter gui?08:52
Tm_Tit is08:52
intelikeymo0osah yes08:52
Tm_T!firestarter08:52
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).08:52
mo0osahTm_T: don't really wanna mess with console based firewall08:52
surgymo0osah: np08:52
Tm_Tmo0osah: I understand that (:08:52
krautmoin08:52
intelikeymo0osah iptables is the firewall.  firestarter is a frontend08:53
hamadooointelikey i can't removed the   blah accont that i just created by mistake :)08:53
intelikeyhamadooo you can if you spell it correctly.   as several of us pointed out08:53
intelikeydeluser != delusr08:53
Tm_Thamadooo: userdel is right command for you (:08:54
Tm_TI think08:54
intelikeyi think too08:54
hamadooodone now ????08:54
Tm_Tatleast apropos in debian gives that08:54
hamadooo./usr/sbin/deluser: The user `blah' does not exist.08:54
Tm_T(:08:55
intelikeyTm_T they both work but one defaults to removing the home dir the other doesnt default to that08:55
Tm_Tintelikey: I see, I rarely remove user accounts so don't have much experience of that08:55
intelikeylike useradd and adduser   the first doesn't default to making a home dir and the second does08:56
Tm_Tinteresting08:56
hamadoooin windows when i  use john ripper i just add a file iin the same program folder and i call it passwd .... then from the dos i write john commands and its works08:56
hamadooobut  i don't know how to add a file into john folder !08:56
hamadoooin linux08:56
intelikeyjust a note.  del/adduser  are perl scripts that call useradd   iirc08:56
surgy?08:57
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intelikeyhamadooo you can run john dirrectly on a file.    john /etc/shadow08:57
intelikeybest i remember   anyway08:58
hamadoooLoaded 1 password (FreeBSD MD5 [32/32] )08:58
hamadoooi didnt add any passwd ?08:58
intelikeyhamadooo and always read the man pages on cli apps before you run them for the first time.08:58
intelikeyat the very least the intro to the page08:59
intelikeyi.e. what the app is intended to do08:59
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hamadoooi have a passwd ..... and i want to loade it into john08:59
hamadooohow ?09:00
hamadoooloadd it**09:00
Tm_Ter09:01
Tm_Tpasswd is command to change password, I think09:01
hamadoooi write passwd in teerminal ?09:01
Tm_Thamadooo: well, you need parameters too propably, and sudo perhaps too09:02
hamadooosudo passwd09:02
intelikeyyes or sudo passwd <username>    to change the password for another user09:02
keisangisudo passwd will change root password i think09:03
keisangino ?09:03
Tm_Tyes09:03
intelikeyyes it will09:03
hamadoooroot passwod for the ubuntu  user ?09:03
Tm_Tno, root user09:03
hamadoooor the john ripper iser09:03
hamadoooi don't want to change the root passwd09:03
intelikeyok.   that bought the ignore switch09:03
Tm_Tso give username09:03
keisangiif hamadooo just want to change current user password, typing just "passwd" in a term and when prompted give the new password09:04
Tm_Tintelikey: bah, chicken09:04
intelikeyTm_T hey i got the patience award yestergo   it your turn09:04
intelikey:)09:04
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Admiral_Chicagosudo passwd09:05
intelikeymy eldest daughter coined that word "yestergo" at age 14months    i've been using it ever sense.      the origenal meaning seemed to be anything that is "past tense" was yestergo    :)09:06
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hamadooointeliky ... so now how can i add a passwd in john program in order ro crack it09:07
Admiral_Chicagoeh, what do you mean ro crack09:07
intelikey"ro crack"  ???09:08
intelikey</blinks>09:08
hamadoooi  have an encrypteed passswd09:08
hamadoooi want to crack it09:08
hamadooowith john  program09:09
intelikeyhehhe   "  We see you're using Internet Explorer.  Try Firefox, you'll like it better"    lol the stupid page determined that my "elinks" was ie   hahaha09:09
hamadoooso no one will help me :(09:10
intelikey" Firefox blocks pop-up windows. "  elinks does too   "It stops viruses and spyware."   heh that too   lol09:11
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Admiral_Chicagohamadooo: no offense to you but I don't know how to help you. :\09:12
hamadoooit's ok thank  you very much09:12
hatterdo superkaramba bits get remembered on reboot ?09:13
Tm_Thamadooo: have you read jack manual? I have no idea myself how it works, never used09:13
hamadooothere is now manual with the program09:13
mo0osahhaha, did you guys know you can install linux while you're in windows:  nifty ;) http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com09:13
Tm_Tyes09:13
Tm_Tand I'm gone again :p ->09:14
intelikeyseems too09:14
intelikey       This  manual page documents briefly the john command.  This manual page09:14
intelikey       was written for the Debian GNU/Linux distribution because the  original09:14
intelikey       program  does  not  have a manual page.09:14
hamadooogfdgdfg:a6ad7908cee477c7f6a102643e8a733c09:14
hamadooothis is the passwd09:15
intelikeymo0osah yes  got the word on it late but i did know.   ubuntu has a windows installer now09:15
Admiral_Chicagohamadooo: yes they do09:15
intelikeyecho 'gfdgdfg:a6ad7908cee477c7f6a102643e8a733c' > file ;john file09:15
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hamadooowell ok  i will remove john now .... and i dont want to hack the site09:16
hamadooodone :P09:16
mo0osahhaha09:16
hamadoooi don't want to .... hacking is bad thing09:17
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intelikeyhacking != cracking09:17
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!09:17
surgyok im done...09:17
mo0osahhamadooo: that could be argued, depending on your definition of hacking09:17
intelikeyhacking changing code    cracking entering where forbiden09:17
hamadoooi feel like a strange in linux ;/09:17
surgywho keeps saying my name and making it flash?09:17
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hamadoooi used to know everthing in win09:18
mo0osahhamadooo: idle as many channels as I do and you'll pick up fast :)09:18
Daisuke_Idosurgy: not me surgy09:18
hamadooobut here nothing ;/09:18
intelikeysurgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy09:18
intelikey:)09:18
Daisuke_Idohamadooo: the only way to learn is to continue using it09:18
hamadoooim trying but nithinf  usefull09:19
intelikeyhamadooo yes exactly,  everything you knew in windows helps nothing in linux.  you have to first "unlearn" then learn the new os.09:19
hamadooothe terminal makes me feel like knowing nithing09:19
intelikey!cli | hamadooo09:19
ubotuhamadooo: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:19
hamadooonothing09:19
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intelikeyhttp://tldp.org09:20
hamadoooeverything here in terminal ...09:20
hamadoooso  hard ;/09:20
intelikeynot hard,  just unknown to you as of yet09:20
intelikeyyestergo i know nothing in linux09:21
intelikeytoday i use no GUI  only console09:21
hamadooonow this is my sec program i tryed to use ..... and i can't09:21
hamadooofrist one is kismet now john ripper09:21
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intelikeyhamadooo try    mc09:21
intelikeystart with something simple09:21
hamadooowhat is that mc09:22
intelikey!info mc09:22
ubotumc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB09:22
hamadooowhat i can use it for ?09:22
intelikeyhas built in editor09:22
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intelikeyuse to browse filesystem   move copy delete edit rename files09:23
hamadoooso it will teach me the terminal ???? commands ?09:23
hamadooook09:23
hamadoooi'll download it now09:23
mo0osahhamadooo: for linux commands try http://www.ss64.com/bash/09:23
intelikeyhamadooo as long as you run it as user and not as root   you can't hurt your linux system09:23
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intelikeymo0osah i posted   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal   just a minute ago09:24
hamadooois it gnome commander or it's diffrent ?09:24
intelikeyhas a few basics09:24
intelikeydifferent09:24
hamadooook  i found it09:25
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hamadooonow could you tell me where can i find it ?09:26
intelikeyPackage webmin is not available, but is referred to by another package.  <<<<<  ?09:26
intelikeycommand line.     type  mc09:26
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intelikeywell i have a working switch and also a crossover cable as well as plip    if i just had a "use" for a network09:28
hamadoooso i don't need to write in terminal anymore :)09:28
intelikeyhamadooo it also supplies a command line,   at the bottom  you can still issue commands    example;   cd /09:28
hamadooook09:29
intelikeymc can do ftp also  iirc09:29
intelikey!info webmin09:30
ubotuPackage webmin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:30
intelikeyoh09:30
intelikey!info webmin dapper09:31
ubotuPackage webmin does not exist in dapper09:31
intelikeyhmmm09:31
hamadooothanx guys :*09:32
intelikeyyou mean that's all he needed ???09:33
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Ickhow can i tell what filetype something is if it doesn't have a .xyz thingy?09:38
mo0osahIck: it's just a file with no type associated with it09:38
mo0osahIck: usually they are files with text in them09:39
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pagIck, command is: file /path/to/file09:42
pagIck, but they usually are just plain-text files09:42
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intelikeyIck why do you "need" to know what file type it is ?09:44
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intelikeyIck   ls    normally has  --color=auto   and anything green    or on red background is executable09:45
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intelikeyIck and even thing that aren't executable 'may' be executed   one example is the /home/dir and another is  ~/.bash_bashrc    (well dirs are executable so scratch that example)09:47
intelikeyIck  ?09:47
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mike__Greets, everyone09:52
paghi mike__ :)09:52
Mo0oSaHhey mike__09:52
vzducharen't you Americans supposed to slowly go to bed? :D09:53
mike__I have no semblance of a sleep schedule :-P09:53
intelikeyvzduch you kidding,  they run and jump into bed with anything... never mind09:53
mike__lol09:53
Mo0oSaHactually it's time for me to go to bed09:54
Mo0oSaHalmost 3 a.m. here09:54
intelikeyyeah my clock says -7:5409:54
evilmm4am here09:54
intelikeyyeah my clock says 07:5409:55
vzduch2 hrs behind CEST.. where's that?09:55
intelikeytop of the morning to you all09:55
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Mo0oSaHintelikey: aren't you from Dallas TX?09:55
intelikeytexas   i should think not09:55
mike__Does anyone know what might cause tab-completion to not work for apt-get (or anything following "$ sudo" for that matter)?09:56
vzduchonly place I know w/ that timezone is Iceland09:56
intelikeyonly thing from dallas are steers and presidents09:56
intelikeydid i really type that ?09:56
intelikeyooops.09:56
Mo0oSaHhaha09:56
vzduchintelikey: or does your clock show UTC?09:56
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intelikeyvzduch it does,09:57
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vzducho009:58
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pagvzduch, iirc Iceland's timezone is the same as GB's  There's small part of Greenland with that timezone though09:58
run_away_intand let us not forget the contenant09:59
vzduchthe what?09:59
run_away_intthe Afar09:59
vzduch?09:59
Mo0oSaHalright people,  night (morning?) all...09:59
vzduch10 am her10:00
vzduche10:00
run_away_intMo0oSaH morning10:00
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Jalathanis there any way to get glchess to display in 3d? i have the two requested libs installed10:01
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vzduchsure you have 3D acceleration enabled?10:01
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Jalathani do but hmm...10:01
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run_away_int 7. Add the line "net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1" to /etc/sysctl.conf10:03
run_away_intis /etc/sysctl.conf supposed to be there ?10:03
run_away_intit's blank ....10:04
Jalathanvzduch: ok, terminal's giving me no errors other than accessibility packages not being found10:04
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vzduchwhat's your frame rate in glxgears?10:04
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mike__Jalathan: Have you tried pouetChess? It looks a lot better, imho10:05
hatterhow do you like that,  with no beryl my glxgears is 2000 fps, with beryl running , it drops to 600 fps10:05
Jalathanvzduch: it's pulling up an error that requests libgtkglext & python-opengl10:06
vzduchhehe10:06
inteliskyhmmmm   /usr/sbin/ipmasq-kmod: 197: /sbin/lsmod: not found10:06
Jalathani shall see about giving it a try mike__ thanks10:06
inteliskywhy do install scripts use static paths for things like that   lsmod is in /bin/  not /sbin/10:07
hattercdrom should be automounting in kubuntu ?10:07
mike__np... there's also DreamChess (available at http://www.getdeb.net ) which might be worth checking out10:07
vzduchJalathan: install libgtkglext1 and python-opengl10:08
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Jalathanvzduch: i have them installed as already stated10:09
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reldruhhi. I recently got a new package of blank DVD's that I'm trying to use with k3b but no matter how I try to burn them I always get the same error message ":-( media is not formatted or unsupported." Has anybody gotten this error and fixed it?10:11
vzduchsh*t happens.. I had 2 blank DL-DVDs left that K3b wouldn't see if inserted.. bought other DVD+Rs which work perfect10:12
reldruhthat's a shame. I guess I'll have to go buy another package of the ones that have worked for me before10:13
reldruhit would be nice if there was a list somewhere of ones that work and ones that don't (Imation and JVC don't work for me, but tdk is fine)10:13
vzduchthink it was Imation that my K3b didn't want10:14
vzduchno, it was Intenso10:14
vzduchImation are the others, they worked like a charm :)10:15
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reldruhfigures it would be particular to eac computer :-)10:15
reldruhis there any way to find out what the error message actually means? There isn't a k3b irc room10:15
vzduchstrange thing about the Intenso is: when I bought them (got to be 2 years back) they worked w/o a problem, those that I burned stuff on still do.. only these 2 blanks I had left over wouldn't work10:16
vzduchreldruh: look at the error log10:16
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vzduchyou have the option to be shown the output of wodim resp. growisofs10:16
arunAnyone here use Kate as an IDE?10:17
inteliskyhmm imation used to make good floppy disks10:17
reldruhvzduch: is that the 'Show Debugging Output' button?10:18
vzduchiirc, yes10:18
pagarun, not really... But you could ask the question you have, maybe someone can help. Unless, of cource, you're just doing a survey ;)10:18
arunjust a survey10:19
aruni love it10:19
mike__The brand of blank media you buy is usually irrelevant, as the company that sells it (Imation, Sony, Maxell, etc.) usually just has random other companies make it for them. I know for sure Ritek/Ridata actually makes their own10:19
reldruhvzduch: i get a list of commands, the last of which is labeled as the mkisofs command, but there's no output for it. The last thing in the terminal when I run it from there is 4 lines of '(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/scd0: GET CONFIGURATION length det failed.'10:20
reldruharun: I use it, but only because getting kdevelop working was so much more of a headache than just running qmake from the built in terminal in kate10:20
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aruni just love that you pretty much customise every bit of it, have multiple files open, and some of the built in shortcuts are cool as well10:21
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inteliskycan anyone tell me what order these three need to load in ?     ipmasq-kmod ipmasq dnsmasq  ?10:23
vzduchhmm.. no10:23
inteliskyi'll take it to a stronger channel10:23
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alesanhi I have transformed my ubuntu in a kubuntu installing KDE10:26
alesanhow do I change the resolution of the screen on the fly?10:27
mike__alesan: System Settings -> Monitor & Display10:27
inteliskysystem settings screen rez ?10:27
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pagalesan, ctrl+alt+'+' or ctrl+alt+'-' ?10:28
Jalathanpag: TY!10:28
pagnp :)10:28
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pagJalathan, that only works with resos defined in xorg.conf iirc, so don't place too high hopes on it ;)10:30
Jalathani know, but some situations call for shortcuts10:30
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arunwhoa pag, neat!10:34
aruni didnt know that shortcut10:34
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aruni've disabled all resolutions below 1440x900, but thanks anyway10:34
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mike__Has anyone here used Kommander?10:37
vzduchnever heard of10:39
pag!info kommander10:40
ubotukommander: visual dialog builder and executor tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3800 kB10:40
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pagsounds like a programm I wouldn't ever need :-/ I didn't even understand what does it do10:41
vzduchdeveloper stuff.. I don't develop, so I don't need it :>10:41
mike__I *think* it's for building GUI-based applications around whatever commands you are already familiar with and want to implement into it10:42
Jalathanhmm10:43
mike__*it=the GUI-based application10:43
Jalathani have it installed, shall check out the help file10:43
inteliskyfolks in #debian sure can be pricks     even worse than me.10:43
Jalathan"Kommander was originally designed around a simple concept that has proven somewhat revolutionairy among visual design tools. Typically these tools allow you to create dialogs and possibly mainwindow interfaces."10:44
vzduchintelisky: nothing new here10:44
inteliskyvzduch wasn't actually a refferance to you...   :")10:45
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vzduchintelisky: I mean ppl in ##debian being pricks..10:46
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Jalathan"So what can Kommander do? Here is the list distilled to the base operations. Kommander can: 1) Pass strings to the calling program via stdout. 2) Call executable programs. 3) Use DCOP to interact with KDE programs."10:46
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Jalathanso mike__ is right10:46
mohammadhello to all10:46
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kirkehello, somebody knows how to modify 'resolv.conf" PERMANTENTLY?10:46
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mohammadresolv.conf is a file to config modem10:47
mike__seems like a pretty interesting program. i'm starting work on an alternative to Automatix and am thinking of using Kommander to make its frontend10:47
alesanmike__, it seems I have no such menu entry.10:48
Jalathang'night all.  thanks for pointing out pouetChess out to me mike__, is proving to be quite fun from the first impression10:48
kirkemohammad, I'm trying to connect to internet permanently, and I need to add the DNS to 'resolv.conf'10:48
alesanmybe because this was a ubuntu and I installed KDE later10:48
mike__Jalathan: np10:48
mohammadin this method10:48
mike__alesan: Yeah, it's not installed by default. "sudo apt-get install kommander" if you want to check it out10:48
mohammadu can write your dsn ip address in to resolv.conf10:49
alesanit is already installed10:49
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mike__alesan: And it's not under KMenu -> Development?10:49
alesan(remember I am talking about the screen resolution thing)10:49
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mike__alesan: Ohh, sorry. Thought you were talking about Kommander. Heh10:50
alesanmike__, :) don't mind10:50
mike__alesan: What package did you install to get KDE?10:50
alesanwelll I guess "kde"10:51
alesanbut to be honest I am not 100% sure :)10:51
mike__I think the one you need is "kubuntu-desktop"10:51
alesanthe problem's that my monitor is 1600x1200 but xorg keeps this strange resolution like 1400x1050 or such10:52
mike__alesan: What I'd do if I were you is go into you're Gnome session and run these two commands, assuming you just installed the package called "kde" (you can check History in Synaptic if you're not sure)10:52
mike__alesan: "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge kde" "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"10:52
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alesanmike ok10:52
mike__alesan: Can you pastebin your xorg.conf?10:53
alesanmike__, sure. give me a second :)10:54
mohammadi have a problem in config squid10:55
alesanhttp://www.pastebin.ca/62736710:55
mohammadi don't now to restart dimon10:55
mohammadany body help to me10:56
pagmohammad, mm? sudo /etc/init.d/squid restert  ?10:56
pagrestart that is10:56
mohammadok10:56
mohammadtanx pag10:57
mike__alesan: Hmm... And what happened when you tried the shortcut pag suggested?10:57
alesannothing. to be honest I didn't use that shorcut since the good old times with slackware 2.0 :) but now it produces absolutely nothing10:58
alesanmike__, don't mind, I'll have that xorg.conf revised and updated :)10:59
alesanright now I just wanted to see if the KDE applet was able to change res on the fly.11:00
alesanI will install the propoer desktop as you suggested.11:00
mike__alesan: And you are using the -/+ keys on the keypad, right?11:00
mike__Oh, nevermind. Makes sense they're not doing anything since you've only got one res. in your xorg.conf11:00
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alesanmike__, :)11:01
mohammadu can use <sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg>11:02
mohammadand config your mointor resoloution11:02
alesanmohammad, well that tool is not very useful in my opinion. too many questions :) X -configure is a much clever tool :)11:03
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mohammadno11:04
mohammadthis tools is very useful11:04
mohammadu can config your monitor11:04
ADiCT3DCan someone tell me where my audio device is located in /dev? I'm trying to get sound to work on VMWare its trying to use /dev/dsp but is not working.11:05
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alesanmohammad, not in my opinion11:05
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alesanok see you later thank you11:06
mohammadwhat11:06
mohammadwhat is your opinion11:06
mohammad?11:06
vituocgiahi11:06
stephen_lol11:06
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mike__later11:06
ubuntuhi guys11:07
mike__hey11:07
ADiCT3Dubuntu: From italy i do assume?11:07
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mohammadsee u later11:09
mohammadbye11:09
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ADiCT3DCan someone tell me where my audio device is located in /dev? I'm trying to get sound to work on VMWare its trying to use /dev/dsp but is not working.11:09
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mimikanyone know where i can get a spam filter script for xchat?11:14
vzduch?11:15
pagmimik, doesn't xchat's webpage have scripts?11:15
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vzduchwhat spam do you want to filter?11:16
mimikill go check xchat's webpage thanks11:16
vzduchif you get molested by spambots, report them to the channel ops11:19
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arunADiCT3D: i'm sure there is an easier way to enable sound11:20
arunin vmware11:20
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vzduchseems like TeXLive has an unresolved dependency11:26
ubunturoswill packages from Debian DVDs work on Kubuntu 6.06?11:26
ubunturos(.deb files)11:26
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vzduchprobably.. but try not to use them if possible11:27
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ubunturosvzduch: compatibility issues?11:28
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vzduchyou'll most likely run into unmet dependencies11:29
ubunturosvzduch: but then, if those dependencies are available in the DVD, it won't be a problem, right?11:30
pagubunturos, you see.. depencies have depencies... and so on ;) eventually it'll either mess up your system, or you'll have a debian instead of ubuntu :)11:31
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pagubunturos, the first option is far more likely11:31
ubunturospag: ah, I see11:31
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Ice9hello11:51
Ice9anybody in here a webcam expert?11:51
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LynoureIce9: it's really hard to be a general webcam expert as webcams are so varied11:53
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Ice9Well, how about getting a logitech quickcam communicate working on ubuntu11:54
kerncoI have Kubuntu 7.04 installed, which has kde 3.5.6.  Is there a way to upgrade to 3.5.7 easily?11:55
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pagkernco, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php11:55
felix_help please. i want to change the resolution of my display. my video card is a geforce nvidia11:56
kerncofelix_, open the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  If you scroll through the file, you will see a place where resolutions are listed11:56
kerncojust add what you need to it11:56
felix_kernco: thanks. i will try that one now.11:57
kerncoErr, that's if the resolution isn't already listed.  Did you try changing it through the KDE settings already?11:57
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felix_kernco: yes but the max is 800x600 only.11:58
kerncook, then go ahead with what I said before11:58
felix_kernco: thanks11:58
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felix_kernco: can i change the setting or add another line on the file?12:01
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kerncofelix_: Find the section with a line for each color depth that looks like "800x600" "640x480" etc., and then add your new resolution(s) to the beginning, so just put "1280x1024" or "1024x768" or whatever at the beginning of the line12:04
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felix_kernco: i tried to modify but i can't save the file.12:05
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kerncoYou have to use sudo to edit it.  If you're using kate, you can open a terminal and type "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"12:06
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felix_kernco: thanks, sorry, just a beginner here. thanks a lot for your help.12:06
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kerncono problem12:06
felix_i will now try to edit thru sudo12:06
Ice9Anybody know how to get a logitech quickcam communicate running?12:07
pansapiensI fiddled around to get my Quickcam Chat working a few months back12:08
Ice9Please! Teach me your ways.12:09
pansapiensultimately, adding the gspca driver to /etc/modules made it work12:09
pansapiensyou can test if it will work by typing $ sudo modprobe gspca12:09
pansapiensin a terminal12:10
pansapiensthen run something like gqcam12:10
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pansapiensto test it. if it say's "/dev/video: No such file or directory" .. then it isn't working, and I can't help much more beyond there12:11
Ice9curses! Thats what it says12:11
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werswill kubuntu bugs be fixed if I uninstall kubuntu and just have kde core installed instead?12:14
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kalmanhi all12:14
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kalmanI'm downloading and wish to install the Tribe 3 CD12:15
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kalmanwhen Kubuntu Gutsy is out in his final version, am I able to upgrade to it or I have to install it from scratch ?12:16
pagkalman, if you install tribe, than all upgrades will come to you seamlessly, and you won't even notice the final releace12:17
kalmanok that is what I was hoping for12:17
pagkalman,but just as a warning; your system probably won't survive that long ;) Gutsy is testing, so any upgrade can brak your system12:18
Ice9Now when I'm typing gqcam, its says Permission Denied12:18
kalmanI have currently installed Kubuntu Feisty, is there a way to upgrade to Gutsy without reinstall all ?12:18
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pagkalman, sure... cange every feisty to gutsy in sources.list and upgrade12:18
pagchange even12:18
kalmanand in case I screw up all I will install it from Cd :-D12:19
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kalmanI'll backup my home first12:20
pansapiensIce9: the source of the gspca driver I have here (gspcav1-20070110) claims to support the "Logitech QuickCam Communicate STX" ..12:20
pagkalman, yup... backups are *very* good idea :)12:20
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pansapiensIce9: it is the same version that is in the 2.6.20-16 kernel ... so that should be the right driver ...12:20
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ririwhere is the channel for gutsy ?12:21
pansapiensIce9: hmm, what are the permissions/owners of /dev/video12:21
kmhhow can i install wone-doors?12:22
kmhwine-doors12:22
pagriri, #ubuntu+112:22
ririthanks12:22
stephen_OMG12:24
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stephen_theres a flood outside12:24
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kmhhow can i give a program root rights12:24
kmh?12:24
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pagkmh, sudo12:24
kmhthan?12:25
Ice9hey Pansapiens, easy fix! After I installed the drivers, I guess all I needed was a restart! Thanks buddy12:25
kalmankmh you mean permanently or running it as root ?12:25
kmhrunning it as root12:25
kalmansudo <your program>12:25
pansapiensIce9: nice ! cool that it's working !! :)12:25
kmhk12:25
Ice9yep, thanks for your help12:26
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pansapiensno problem. nothing like a reboot :) (gee .. feels like the old days of Windows :) )12:26
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Ice9seriously lol12:26
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kalmanthank you for your help for now, logging out X to make a back12:27
kalmanbackup*12:27
ScarFreewillamarok is crashing a lot it just started about 10min ago it just keeps crashing randomly, well actually usualy when it goes on to a next song or gets paused and resumed... it just now froze my keyboard!12:27
ScarFreewillamarok has never crashed before....12:28
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ScarFreewillI've been using this installation since the day feisty came out, I've not installed anything wierd that may have caused amarok to act like this, I'm also not running anything else that uses the sound driver12:29
ScarFreewill!info xlib12:30
ubotuPackage xlib does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:30
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kmhi installed a program with wine, how can i open it?12:44
pagkmh, wine /path&to/programm.exe12:45
kmhdon know the path12:45
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vzduchomg12:46
pagkmh, probably ~/.wine/drive_c/...12:46
kmhk12:46
pagkmh, further it depends on the programm12:46
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logixoulHi guys. Trying to install Feisty on a DT miniPC. Installation went fine till about 92% then the window just disappeared. When I rebooted, I was booted directly into Windows rather than the GRUB menu. Any hints please?12:47
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logixouldamn, I hate it when shit happens when I'm first showing Linux to someone ;(12:48
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dainanakilol12:50
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dainanakiwell kubuntu stuff typically is slightly unstable for me, so that wouldn't surprise me much12:50
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Riyoxkeconfigure: error: Your libstdc++ doesn't have the sstream or strstream classes12:54
logixoultry googling the error12:54
Riyoxkebeen there done that12:55
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Riyoxke!fgi12:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fgi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:55
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redbaronHi:-)12:56
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werscan anyone here tell me how to configure opensync for kubuntu feisty?12:58
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dainanakino idea01:03
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wersanyone here successfully synced a pocket pc with kubuntu feisty?01:05
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olafurhow do I install bin files in Ubuntu01:21
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DragnslcrUsually by running them01:22
olafurI get error when I try01:22
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olafurNo application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file.01:23
olafurget this message when I double click the file01:23
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snowwitam, jest ktos moze? :)01:24
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kasleprocan someone please tell me how to install my bcm43xx network card? please take it slow... i'm a newbie01:27
vzduch!bcm43xx01:28
ubotuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx01:28
kasleproi don't understand what i shuld do next...01:28
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kasleprohow do i get  fw-cutter?01:29
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titanix88hello01:35
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titanix88whazz up?01:37
titanix88everyone silent!01:38
dainanaki_nuthin01:38
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embrikTried to install bcm43xx-fwcutter and go this error message: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1). This error shows every time I use apt-get install. How do I fix it? Thought I copuld write apt-get install -f01:38
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vzduchembrik: by using sudo apt-get install01:39
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embrikvzduch: The same message appeared01:39
titanix88em01:39
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dainanaki_it kind of acts like either dpkg is messed up or else that package is01:40
titanix88sorry!01:40
dainanaki_see if any other packages do the same thing01:40
vzduchthere has to be more than this 1 line01:40
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wersanyone here succesfuly configured opensync?01:42
wers!opensync01:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opensync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:42
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titanix88does anyone know mesa7.0 released?01:43
ronaldo_why mesa?01:44
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kasleprohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty01:45
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wersif I reboot, will my downloads in KGet continue?01:48
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jussi01wers: did you use  the -c switch?01:50
FSHeroHello, everyone: What is the best way to share files and folders between two Kubuntu computurs?01:50
jussi01!nfs01:50
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.01:50
wersjussi01, what is the -c switch?01:51
jussi01wers: Im not certain about kget, but with wget yo can use wget -c for continuing. see "man kget" for more info01:52
FSHerojussi01: thanks. But I was hoping for something GUI-based.01:52
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FSHeroI went to System Settings -> Sharing and added my home directory to be shared by NFS. But I cannot seem to access it on my other computer.01:53
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FSHero(when I type the former's IP address in Konqueror)01:57
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FSHeroI assume that to share files between Windows and Kubuntu, you use Samba?01:57
FSHero!samba01:57
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:57
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titanix88what do u think of linux as a gaming platform?02:09
progress0rhaving some problems with my fonts, they look ok but i remember them being better than this. I have enabled subpixel rendering but still its pretty poor. im wondering if its the gtk or bitmap fonts, now sure.02:09
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titanix88progressOr:sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig02:10
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progress0ri did that02:12
progress0rmaybe im expecting too much :)02:13
titanix88prog: don't use bitmap.02:13
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logixoulHi. Trying to install Feisty. The installer window suddenly disappeared at like 95%. Rebooting shows that GRUB isn't installed (I'm thrown into Windows). The installed Kubuntu partition doesn't have a grub/ dir under /boot, so I can't even install grub manually, it seems.02:15
logixoulAny hints please?02:15
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titanix88fonts are far better than win in ubuntu.02:15
titanix88fonts are far better than win in ubuntu.02:15
progress0rtitanix88: thanks, i did disable bitmap fonts at first. I can then say definitely something isnt right as my windows fonts are horribly better than these.02:16
titanix88logixowl install again;)02:17
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logixoultitanix88: ok. Btw, like 1 minute after the installer disappeared, a console appeared on screen and I got a list of errors about squashfs. Any idea about that?02:19
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titanix88progressOr:use freetype.02:20
titanix88progressOr:use freetype.02:20
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(vzduch/#kubuntu) then don't use kwrite.. in a terminal use a CLI text editor (nano, joe etc.); if you want a KDE program to run as root use kdesu02:23
(vzduch/#kubuntu) (and iiac, kwrite is not installed by default)02:23
(araizen/#kubuntu) ah kdesu kwrite works02:23
(araizen/#kubuntu) in the terminal02:23
(araizen/#kubuntu) even02:23
(logixoul/#kubuntu) actually kwrite is supposed to work with both kdesu and sudo, but oh well ;)02:24
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araizenokay, so i just installed a clean system02:24
vzduchlogixoul: maybe, but make it clean & don't even start mixing things up :)02:24
araizeni installed synaptic and then told it to mark all upgrades and install them02:24
araizenthat gives me an updated system, right?02:24
vzducharaizen: as far as the sources you have enabled are concerned, yes02:25
araizengreat, thanks02:25
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titanix88ariazen sudo will not work only if u deny to give a pass:/02:25
logixoularaizen: note that this generally will get you only security and critical updates, AFAICS02:26
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araizenis there a way to automatically update all updated packages?02:26
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patrick__Hello =)02:27
araizenhi patrick02:27
logixoularaizen: just look for a red ball icon in the systray, if it is there then click it02:27
araizenlogixoul: if it's not there, everything's already updated?02:27
patrick__hmm trying kubuntu 7.10, its nice =)02:28
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logixoularaizen: I believe so02:28
tfreirethe green ball menas you are good to go.02:28
araizendoes that include non-critical updates?02:29
vzduchusually not02:29
vzduchfor that you need to enable backports02:29
titanix88there is a lot of discuss going on digg about releasing steam for linux.w do u think?02:29
araizenwell, is there some way to install non-critical updates automatically?02:29
araizenjust enable backports?02:29
vzduchtitanix88: doesn't touch me, I don't play02:29
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vzducharaizen: universe and multiverse for more software, official but not supported.. backports for (mostly) current versions02:30
titanix88vzduch: with upcoming opengl's i think linux have a chance to grip.02:31
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araizenso if i enable backports and then tell synaptic to mark all upgrades and install them, i'll get the latest versions (mostly)?02:31
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araizenare new versions not put into universe and multiverse?02:31
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titanix88anyway steam is not for linux.02:33
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titanix88#ubuntu does not stop for a moment but #kubuntu is cold like ice.02:36
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titanix88#ubuntu does not stop for a moment but #kubuntu is cold like ice.02:36
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geniiIt gets busy here too, just not right now :)02:37
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KasleProi've got an error message on my terminal.. how do i delete it?02:37
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geniiKaslePro: What does it say?02:38
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KasleProgenii: i'm trying to install bcm43xx, but an error message occupears02:39
geniiKaslePro: What are the contents of the error message?02:39
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KasleProgenii: the whole message is: Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by bcm43xx-fwcutter.02:40
KasleProThis file has an unknown MD5sum 0c5ffe204a083fcdf623aa47acfefcbd.02:40
KasleProdpkg: Feil ved behandling av bcm43xx-fwcutter (--configure):02:40
KaslePro underprosessen post-installation script returnerte feilstatus 25502:40
KasleProDet oppsto feil ved behandling av:02:40
KaslePro bcm43xx-fwcutter02:40
KasleProE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:40
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geniiOK02:41
KasleProgenii: do u know what to do?02:41
vzduch!enter | KaslePro02:41
ubotuKaslePro: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!02:41
vzduchdid you apt-get update before installing?02:42
geniiKaslePro: The package manager doesn't like the package you are trying to install, it is saying the checksum is bad or unknown02:42
KasleProno02:42
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KasleProok02:42
KasleProgenii: how do i install it then?02:42
vzduchthat might be the problem.. your database is outdated and the MD5 sum has changed in the meantime02:42
vzduchtry sudo apt-get update first, then install again02:43
geniiKaslePro: You should update the apt-get as vzduch indicates, then try to install it again.02:43
KasleProok... thanks!=)02:43
bophello02:44
KasleProtha same message occupears02:44
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KasleProi wrote sudo apt-get update, the terminal updated and then i tried to install...02:45
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geniiKaslePro: Did you add some non-standard sites into your list of repositories?02:46
KasleProgenii:  what do u mean? i'm a newbie02:47
tattersdo I use same procedure to upgrade kubuntu to gutsy as one would Ubuntu02:47
geniiKaslePro: I'll take that to mean no :)02:47
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tatters!gutsy02:48
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+102:48
KasleProgenii: sorry... i'm a newbie, but can u explain to me how to remove the error message easly?02:49
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geniiKaslePro: Since it is failing on the --configure part, it may be you have not yet downloaded the firmware which it is looking for (to cut)02:49
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KasleProgenii: how do i do that?02:50
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geniiKaslePro: The answer to removing the error message is to find the cause of it and to correct that02:50
geniiKaslePro: I am looking for a good how-to for you right now.02:50
KasleProgenii: thanks a lot=)02:51
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benpiccoHi, where to get an microphone amplifier?02:51
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benpiccoI cant ind an option in kmix02:51
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benpiccobut my mic needs to be amplified by software02:52
vzduchbenpicco: Mic Boost02:52
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benpiccois this a package?02:54
vzduchno, it's a switch, present (for me) in both KMix and alsamixer02:54
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benpiccowell, here its not present..02:55
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bopcan anyon help me , im trying to install nvidia driver under kububtu feisty , it tells me it needs the libc header files , install libc devel packages , but i cant find it in adept02:56
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geniiKaslePro Here is one, you don't need step 5, this in not for Kubuntu but regular Ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear02:56
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tfreireis there an irc channel specific for gutsy?02:57
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vzduchtfreire: #ubuntu+102:57
BluesKajHowdy All :)02:58
vzduchbop: install from the repos, nomally there's no need to mess w/ the installer from the Nvidia page02:58
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tfreireis there a separate one for kubuntu gutsy?02:58
BluesKajthanks genii :)02:58
KasleProgenii:  thanks02:58
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bopi tried to do that , and now im stuck in 640x48002:59
geniiKaslePro: If you find issues, return here for more assistance :)02:59
geniiBluesKaj:  :)02:59
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geniibah, work. AFK a bit03:00
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vzduchquestion: what was the name of the Gnome 'version' of Amarok again?03:01
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BluesKajgnamarok?03:01
BluesKajj/k03:02
vzduchit was Exaile03:02
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vzduchbop: installing from Nvidia directly is not likely to solve that problem.. after installation you first have to reconfigure your xorg.conf03:12
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vzduchwhen installing the driver from Nvidia in openSUSE I too started off w/ 800x60003:13
vzduchsame on Kubuntu w/ the pkg03:13
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z_wlan0hey, question: how to do pipe command to konsole from run window?03:14
z_wlan0like open xterm, and run command in xterm03:14
geniiz_wlan0: Better off to just run the command in a konsole to start with03:14
BluesKajvzduch, that seems to be the default res with the vesa pnp drivers after a clean install03:14
bopim running the nvidia driver i found in adept , 1024x768 now03:15
bopthink my monitor might have something to do with it03:15
z_wlan0if i could i would03:15
geniiz_wlan0:  what is the command you are using?03:15
z_wlan0nmblookup03:16
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geniiThat runs in my konsole fine03:17
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z_wlan0i know, i want to do this[ konsole; then nmblookup inside konsole ]  in one action03:18
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geniiz_wlan0: Make a new shortcut on desktop with that command and have it run in a terminal03:19
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strabesz_wlan0: if you put "&&03:20
z_wlan0nvm, i got it; [ konsole --noclose -e nmblookup ] 03:20
strabesz_wlan0: if you put "&&" in between commands you can run them right after one another03:21
strabeslike "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade"03:21
z_wlan0but look at what i want to do? run the example i just showed03:21
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strabesz_wlan0: oh, yeah you'll have to use alt+f2 or make a shortcut on your desktop or something03:22
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z_wlan0yea, thats wat i meant by "run window" alt+f203:22
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geniiwork, AFK03:23
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z_wlan0thanx03:24
z_wlan0later03:25
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mikkaelis there a easy way to get all settings made by "kubuntu-default-settings" applied again after having changed ~everything on these settings ;) ?03:40
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KasleProcan someone please tell me how to install limewire? i'm a newbie...03:41
mikkaellimewire is a windows program03:41
KasleProno03:42
KasleProlimewire works with linux03:42
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Guest239My router died D:03:42
KasleProjust go to www.limewire.com and see for urself03:42
mikkaelyes sorry, didnt know they got a linux client03:42
Guest239Any answer to Solidays's question?03:42
KasleProok03:43
KasleProcan someone please tell me how to install limewire? i'm a newbie...03:43
mikkaeluh its arpm03:43
pag!limewire03:43
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.03:43
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vzduchKaslePro: install frostwire03:45
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KasleProvzduch:  what's frostwire?03:47
Guest239!FrostWire03:48
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire03:48
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SolidaysI guess there's no help for my problem then? :(03:49
vzduchfrostwire can be obtained as a .deb from the Automatix repo03:49
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vzduchSolidays: repeat your question please, I don't find it back03:51
SolidaysI'm using an old machine that doesn't have ethernet or WiFi. My router allows me to connect to it through USB. This works on Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn but not Kubuntu Fiesty Fawn03:52
SolidaysI'm trying to work out what I need from Ubuntu to make Kubuntu work03:52
SolidaysI was wondering if there's a list that I can compare to find out the package differences between the distributions somewhere03:52
vzduchguess that'd be a helluva search job03:53
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SolidaysWell without the driver/package I can't connect to the internet on the machine03:54
vzduchotoh, a router is supposed to get connected to the network via Ethernet, not via USB03:54
SolidaysHold on03:55
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Solidayshttp://www.frequencycast.co.uk/homehub.html03:55
Solidaysctrl+f "USB ports"03:56
Solidays"You can use the USB-B port to connect directly to a PC. You need special Home Hub USB drivers available from BT."03:56
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vzducho003:57
SolidaysNow I don't know if BT provides Linux versions but Ubuntu certainly supports it03:57
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vzduch.oO( crazy Brits.. )                                 :D03:58
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Solidaysvzduch XD03:59
SolidaysIt definitely works03:59
SolidaysI had it working in Ubuntu earlier from install03:59
SolidaysBut it seems Kubuntu doesn't come with it03:59
SolidaysWhich is why I need to find out what it is and add it03:59
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wietse_hiya04:01
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wietse_anyone know how i can create a zip file?04:01
wietse_i'm using kubuntu/dapper04:01
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KasleProhow do i install frost wire any one?04:05
KasleProi'm a newbie04:05
crdlb!frostwire04:05
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire04:05
KasleProcrdlb:  what do you mean?04:05
crdlbfollow the link :)04:06
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KasleProcrdlb: i've tried, but i didn't understand04:07
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vzduchKaslePro: sorry to say so, but that's a no-brainer04:08
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KasleProvzduch: you call me a no brainer?04:08
vzduchKaslePro: no, the instruction is a no-brainer04:08
vzduchfirst install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre, then download the .deb and install it04:09
KasleProvzduch: ok...thanks=)04:09
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shad-99anyone know about apache2 and ssl in feisty fawn, why im not allowed to get self certificate -day 365?04:20
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shad-99witch i got in dapper drake with easy when i installed apache2 ?04:21
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burncloudsevery time i try to run the brand new firefox 2.0.0.5 i get a segfault04:22
KasleProvzduch: i downloaded frostwire..... but i couldn't save it.. "if saving you wil have a corrupted file"04:22
burncloudsevery time i try to run the brand new firefox 2.0.0.5 i get a segfault04:22
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burncloudsis the package broken?04:23
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burncloudsis the new firefox package bad?04:24
dobois the java6bin package broken? after i install it things go downhill04:24
burncloudsi run java6 with no problems04:24
dobohm04:24
dobothat's odd!04:24
doboi run firefox2 with no problems04:25
burncloudshave you upgraded firefox to 2.0.0.504:25
burncloudsor are you using 2.0.0.404:25
doboi just reinstalled kubuntu today, so whatever's current on the repositories04:25
doboit 0.504:26
burncloudshurm04:26
burncloudsi just did the upgrade today and now i get a segfault04:26
burncloudsi'm actually running firefox 0.8 as well as 3.0a6 and all is well there04:27
burncloudsand 2.0.0.4 worked and 2.0.0.5 is faulty04:27
titanix88hello!04:28
dobo:(04:28
burncloudshi04:28
titanix88dobo:why sad?04:28
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burncloudshave you had any issues with FF 2.0.0.504:28
doboi am mourning burnclouds' ff04:29
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titanix88i heard it is a security update about remote code execution etc.04:30
burncloudsmeh i'll just use FF0.8 it's faster sleaker anyway04:30
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burncloudsare there any actual support people on here?04:31
titanix88why u r so enthusiastic abt ff?konq is better.04:31
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burncloudsI have a few extension i like for FF04:31
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mikkaelkonq is so slow for me04:32
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burncloudsi agree04:32
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mikkaeli tried to disable ipv6 stuff but its the same04:33
mikkaelbut only on some sites, others are very fast04:33
burncloudsdoes any one actually use IPv6?04:33
titanix88burnscloud: canonical does not put employees here.u will have to buy that kind of support.04:34
titanix88burnscloud: canonical does not put employees here.u will have to buy that kind of support.04:34
burncloudsi see04:34
burncloudsburnclouds@strider:~$ firefox04:35
burncloudsSegmentation fault (core dumped)04:35
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pagburnclouds, try reinstalling FF, there might have been some glitch during the update04:35
titanix88btw serious linux guru's kind of avoid ubuntu.04:35
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burncloudsI use puredebian alot04:36
burncloudsFF magically works now?!?!04:36
burncloudsi must have activated a resurve of magic smoke04:36
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titanix88f f is slow.04:37
titanix88f f is slow.04:37
burncloudskonq is slower04:37
Lynouretitanix88: try disabling ipv6, if you don't use it?04:37
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mikkaeli dont care about serious linux gurus04:37
burncloudsi usually use FF0.8 which is blazing fast04:37
titanix88but konq is the king of cache.04:37
burncloudscache is bad for a web developer04:38
burnclouds:-P04:38
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burncloudswell with FF 2.0.0.5 working now i'm out of here04:38
burncloudssee ya's04:38
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titanix88lynoure:i did not ask anything!?!04:39
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Lynouretitanix88: sorry for trying to help, then. :(04:40
pagtitanix88, so if you don't ask, the giving helpful advices is strictly forbitten? ;)04:40
titanix88lol04:40
titanix88lol04:40
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doboDobo bleibt zu Hause!04:41
pag!de | dobo04:41
ubotudobo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:41
dobodanke04:42
pagbitte04:42
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titanix88stop whatever u r saying.it's giving me a headache.!04:43
titanix88stop whatever u r saying.it's giving me a headache.!04:43
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ksivajiIn short, open source software is not "free  http://wistechnology.com/article.php?id=406404:44
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tech404I am switching my servers from Debian Stable to Ubuntu server in the next couple of days... could anyone give me so good info? I have been using kubuntu for some time on my desktop04:44
titanix88ksivaji:i argue opposite04:45
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ksivajititanix88 http://wistechnology.com/article.php?id=406404:45
doboi have a problem with adept: after i install java5 packages it says it cannot commit changes because packages would break04:46
dobothen it exits04:46
doboand after that04:46
doboi cannot use adept because it says another instance is running!04:46
pagtech404, "don't do it!!" :P  tbh I don't see any point of moving from Debian to Ubuntu on servers, since there, the stability should be more important than shinyness04:46
pag!apt-fix | dobo04:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:46
pag!aptfix | dobo04:46
ubotudobo: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:46
dobothank you!04:47
titanix88dobo: kill other instance from ksysgaurd04:47
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titanix88flooeing with peopke but no talk04:49
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tech404pag: thanks... i have been considering that but I had never worked with server and wanted to try it... non mission critical04:51
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pagtech404, if it isn't critical, then Ubuntu might be an easier solution :)04:51
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tech404well I already have debian in place and I know it well, it was really for experimentation04:52
tech404i think I will just set up a test box04:52
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eyedol59I am about to get a X2 cpu and I want to know if Kubuntu is prepare to use the CPU as a dual core. can anybody help me?04:56
SlimeyPeteyes, it is.04:56
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eyedol59Now I am running Kubuntu 7.04 (i386 version) on a A64 3000 754, Which version of Kubuntu do I need to use it with de X2?04:59
warrior-wizardsalut tout le monde ^04:59
geniiI have extended work to do so logging off but back in 2-3 hours ... later04:59
SlimeyPeteeyedol59: the sameversion04:59
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SlimeyPete7.04 uses an SMP kernel by default so it will use both cores04:59
pag!fr | warrior-wizard05:00
ubotuwarrior-wizard: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:00
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eyedol59But using the same version will let me use de two cores or the system will work as it where just a single core. I mean, one thing is that the i386 version is compatible and other is that the i386 version uses the both cores.05:01
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SlimeyPeteeyedol59: it will use both cores05:02
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eyedol59Ok, SlimeyPete, thank you for your answers and patience :)05:03
SlimeyPeteno problem :)05:03
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yotuxdoes anyone kown what packages need to be install for pdf support05:08
SlimeyPetekghostview or xpdf05:09
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SlimeyPetekghostview is installed by default on recent versions of kubuntu05:09
yotuxI have a commandline system without X that is why I was asking05:09
SlimeyPeteah right05:09
yotuxsorry should have said that05:10
yotuxI was thinking libpdf?05:10
ganymedehi, i just installed kubuntu desktop and connected to wireless network, used dhclient, and now pinging and sudo apt-get work via konsole but konqueror cannot view webpages05:10
ganymedeCould not connect to host http://www.google.com/.05:10
jaimespanish05:10
SlimeyPeteyotux: that'll do, if you're using perl05:10
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ubotujaime: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:11
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yotuxSlimeyPete: thanks for the help I am trying to create my home media server05:12
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elite1help my screen is huge. lol i logged onto kubuntu and everything is huge05:17
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elite1when i run something in sudo and the password box comes up it takes up the whole screen i cant change it05:17
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elite1where do u change the reselution (cant spell it)05:18
rixxon@echo -e in make on Kubuntu 7.04 does not behave as in any other operating system. It outputs the "-e" rather than enabling interpretation of backslash escapes. Why is this and is there a fix?05:18
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devkinetichello. i install kubuntu and then installed the gnome desktop from that, can i remove kde and all its apps? i already set gdm as the default05:20
elite1help i need to fix my screen so that everything isnt so huge05:20
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pagrixxon, try: echo -E05:20
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rixxonpag: in the shell or in the makefile?05:20
devkineticelite1: change your resolution05:20
jhutchinsrixxon: probably dash vs. bash.05:20
elite1where?05:20
elite1configure desktop?05:20
pagrixxon, shell?05:20
rixxonjhutchins: ah!05:20
devkineticelite1: monitor05:20
jhutchinsresolve, resolution, krandrtray05:20
elite1monitor? system settings...05:21
pagrixxon, oh sorry... -E is disabling -e should enable... so I don't understand why it doesn't work :(05:21
rixxonpag: zsh, also tried bash, and the actual echo binary. but jhutchins is correct, dash is the problem.05:21
devkineticelite1: yeah sorry i can't be specific im not in kde right now05:21
elite1lol05:21
elite1there is nothing about changeing reseloution05:22
pagrixxon, ok.05:22
jhutchinselite1: run krandrtray05:22
elite1okay05:22
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devkineticanyone know how i remove kde and all its apps, i installed gnome and like it better05:23
Admiral_ChicagoI'm trying to edit the DNS database on a computer, where is that located05:24
elite1failed to open device05:24
elite1?05:24
Admiral_Chicagodevkinetic: sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop; sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop05:24
ksivajidevkinetic sudo apt-get remove --purge kde05:24
devkineticwhich one do i use lol?05:24
elite1how do i run krandrtry05:24
Admiral_Chicagoactually aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop would run just as well05:25
Admiral_Chicagodevkinetic: mine, it handles your dependencies in a cleaner fashion05:25
ksivajikde is best for me05:25
Admiral_Chicagoksivaji: kubuntu-desktop is the meta fiel05:25
Admiral_Chicagofile*05:25
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pagdevkinetic, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome05:25
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ksivaji!metafile05:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about metafile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:26
ksivajiok bye05:26
elite1hey i got a panel for resolution but it only allows me to go to 640x480 and 320x240 :S05:27
elite1i need it higher05:27
devkineticyou need to select your video card, i think its the next tab over05:27
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elite1it was working fine last night but when i booted it up today everything was just 64048005:28
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jhutchinselite1: Did you update anything yesterday?05:30
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elite1no05:31
Timsenhi, how can I check if my rented rootserver has sata or scsi disks integrated?05:31
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jhutchinsrootserver?05:31
jm87_hi05:31
elite1for some reason su crashed and i counld not run anything in sudo so i tryed everything to restarting a new user shutting down but i had to do a complete re-install05:32
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elite1then yesterday everything was fine i did a system restart and the res. was okay now today its 640x48005:32
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jm87_how i do interface my n73 nokia with kubuntu05:33
elite1usb cord?05:33
vedavoxhas anyone installed the 8.39.4 fglrx drivers, and if so have they got 'Testing Use Only' plasterd in the lower right of the screen?05:33
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jhutchinsvedavox: Welcome to the bleeding edge.  Roll them back to the release version and that will go away.05:35
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pfeinany howto/example config on using tor w/ dante-client?05:36
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BubsterAlright guys, I'm trying to run ./configure to configure a source to install.  While it's running, I get:05:40
Bubsterchecking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no05:40
Bubsterconfigure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.05:40
BubsterAny ideas?05:40
pag!b-e | Bubster05:40
ubotuBubster: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:40
pagBubster, and btw; what are you compiling?05:41
Bubsteramap-5.205:41
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vedavoxbubster, do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' that will give you the basics, but you will no doubt need various -dev packages installed after this05:42
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lontraBubster: also you can install apt-file to find a specific missing file and which package it corresponds to05:44
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BubsterOk, will try these really quick.  Be back in a minute or two with results.05:45
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VSpikeIs it just me, or is katapult mind-bogglingly slow?05:46
fabienIl y a des franais de connect svp?05:46
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pag!fr | Fabien05:47
ubotuFabien: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:47
lontrajm87_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/Nokia  ... there's a bit about your nokia05:47
lontraVSpike: in feisty?05:47
Fabien!fr05:47
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:47
VSpikelontra: yep05:47
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pagVSpike, if you have a large Amarok collection, it might really slow katapult down05:47
VSpikepag: that could be it :)05:48
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BubsterRunning 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' solved my problem.  Thanks guys05:49
vedavoxbubster, you'll get more, but read the output and install the corresponding -dev packages05:51
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VSpikepag: is there any way to disable the indexing of amarok collections, do you know?05:52
lontraBubster: also as i mentioned ... if you install apt-file when it says your missing file.foo then you can run apt-file search file.foo and find out what you need to install for a corresponding package05:52
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pagVSpike, dunno if that helps, but delete Amarok from ~/.kde/shate/config/katapultrc05:53
VSpikeAnother question I had - the system tray icon for my skype has become corrupted.  Is there an icon cache I can delete?05:53
Bubsterlontra:  Ok, thanks for the info.05:53
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VSpikepag: I'll try it - thanks05:56
pagnp :)05:56
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VSpikepag: apparently, it doesn't exist - in fact "find .kde -iname 'katapult*'" finds nothing :/05:58
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pagVSpike, strange, since it should... try to open katapult's settings, change anything and save05:59
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Bubsterlontra, I'm getting "apt-file:command not found"  when I try your search method.06:00
lontraBubster: you need install apt-file first06:00
VSpikepag: How can you open the settings?06:01
lontraBubster: sudo apt-get install apt-file06:01
lontraBubster: then run apt-file update then run apt-file search foo.file06:01
pagVSpike, right click the trayicon?06:01
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vedavoxhmmm, seems ati have just removed the  8.39.4 fglrx drivers and back to the last ones, guess they forgot to remove the testing logo06:01
Jack_SparrowHello All..  I would like instructions on installing a theme I got from kde-look.org into Kubuntu06:02
Raystlin_FMVSpike, if you bring up the launcher (default is Alt+Space) then press Ctrl+C it will bring up a context menu06:02
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lontraJack_Sparrow: you probably need to compile it06:02
lontraJack_Sparrow: what theme?06:02
buckhey all06:02
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lontrahi buck06:02
Jack_SparrowIt is in bz2 format and I see tons of files and folders inside the archive06:03
buckvery new to linux ..06:03
mind_shiftshould I wait for a new realease of kubuntu?06:03
buckbut i am loving it06:03
mind_shiftbefore I install it?06:03
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lontraJack_Sparrow: ok you'll need to run .. tar xvjf foo.tar.bz2 ... then cd into the directory06:03
devkinetichey i ran sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop and it only removed about 40k of files, i want to remove kde and all its apps, so i just have gnome and its stuff06:03
lontraJack_Sparrow: then you should read the README file ... but you probably will only need to do 3 things.  1.  ./configure 2.  make  3. sudo make install06:03
vedavoxjack, you should be able just to unpack it to a folder, then use the install theme under appearance / themes06:03
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VSpikepag: don't have one, bit Raystlin_FM's method works... thanks#06:04
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pagdevkinetic, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome06:04
VSpikeWonderful - amarok catalog disabled, now much much faster... thanks guys!06:04
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lontravedavox: depends on what kind of theme doesn't? ... if it's a style or a win deco you can't do that06:04
stdinmind_shift: generally, yes. unless you're interested in finding bugs and helping out (even if it's just testing). Just remember that it's not considered "stable" until the release and it could break at any time06:04
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Jack_SparrowOk... will look to see what I find.. It liiks like their root folder is filesystem, will that tar command put things in the correct folders/locations?06:05
manu_hi06:05
devkineticpag: thank you :] 06:05
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lontraJack_Sparrow: tar will unpack and uncompress the tarball in the folder where the tarball is currently held06:05
Jack_Sparrowvedavox: will try that first as it seems the easiest06:05
yayanehm..06:05
mind_shiftstdid: How long do you think it will take until the next stable release?06:05
mind_shiftstdin06:06
lontraJack_Sparrow: what theme?  can you paste the url to the kde-look.org06:06
pagmind_shift, 7.10 will be the next stable06:06
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pag!gutsy | mind_shift06:06
ubotumind_shift: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+106:06
stdinmind_shift: when it's released, 7.10 = year 2007, month = 1006:06
Jack_Sparrowlontra: it may take a minute, I closed down the browser..06:06
buckhow does one be able to record ?? with sound recorder06:06
lontraJack_Sparrow: no worries ... you don't have to paste it ... it just helps to know what kind of theme it is06:06
lontrabuck: buy a mic ;)06:07
vedavoxlontra, if is a basic theme, hold on, I just noticed that the theme manager is not available under system settings, but is from kcontrol06:07
buckhahahah ..06:07
mind_shiftstdin: which is the current version?06:07
buckthat would work.. actually i can hear but unable to record...06:07
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lontravedavox: oh i see ... i've never actually used theme manager before06:07
mind_shift!current06:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about current - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:07
mind_shift!version06:07
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell06:07
stdinmind_shift: 7.04 feisty06:07
mind_shiftok06:07
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lontraJack_Sparrow: try kcontrol -> appearance -> theme manager ... install new theme and navigate to that .bz2 file06:08
vzduchit takes a helluva lot of time uninstalling texlive06:09
Jack_Sparrowhttp://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Baghira?content=869206:09
vedavoxyou may have to install kcontrol, iirc, its not default install on basic kubuntu06:09
Jack_Sparrowlontra: will try that now..06:09
lontravedavox: it's on kubuntu by default06:09
lontrajust no icon ;(06:09
lontraJack_Sparrow: press alt+f2 and type kcontrol06:09
buckany ideas how to get my record to work .. i have built in audio ac 97 85006:09
The_MachineI have a gigabit nic, and in windows the gigabit link lights show up on my switch, but when i boot into kubuntu I only get 10/100 lights on the switch.  ANy suggestions?06:10
lontraJack_Sparrow: fyi ... on that website you linked there are instructions for how to install it ;)06:10
pagJack_Sparrow, lontra; isn't baghira available from repos?06:10
pag!find baghira06:10
ubotuFound: kwin-baghira06:10
pagyup... there it is :)06:10
lontra!win pag06:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win pag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:10
vedavoxjack, try doing 'sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira'  its in the repos06:10
Jack_SparrowJust trying to help my niece.. I know nothing about KDE06:11
Jack_SparrowWhat about one not in the repos.06:11
lontraJack_Sparrow: it depends ... you could use the theme manager or you might need to compile it from source ... but if you need to compile a theme from source it's generally super easy06:11
lontraJack_Sparrow: also since (k)ubuntu is so ubiquitous in the linux world most themes have .deb packages available06:12
stdinThe_Machine: what make/model, or do you know the module name. it may be that you have to tell the driver to use gigabit06:12
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mind_shiftKubuntu should use archlinux as their base :)06:12
lontramind_shift: blah ... dpkg and apt-get are the best06:13
mind_shiftlontra: apt-get feels like old stuff :)06:13
mind_shiftno real thought put into it06:14
stdinare you insane??06:14
Jack_SparrowI will try some of the suggestions and check back in a few minutes.. thanks everyone06:14
lontramind_shift: what?  do you know what you're talking about or are you trying to start a flame war?06:14
stdinapt ROCKS! :p06:14
vedavoxWHAT!!!!06:14
lontramind_shift: regardless ... this is offtopic06:14
mind_shift:p06:14
The_Machineit's on board in my Dell.  Kinfocenter says it's an Intel 82801G..06:14
lontramind_shift: let's go to #kubuntu-offtopic to continue this ridiculous tirade ... oops i mean discussion06:14
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The_Machinesorry, stdin06:15
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mind_shiftok lontra, you win06:16
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mind_shiftbut you should really try pacman06:16
mind_shiftit's easy simple and powerful06:16
lontramind_shift: i like pacman and i like portage too and yum ... they are all really good package managers06:16
lontramind_shift: we all win in linux with choices06:17
mind_shiftbut apt is ypur favorite?06:17
lontramind_shift: yeah ... but the others are very good to and not far behind06:17
vedavoxapt is just so simple, synaptic if you want a fancy gui06:17
mind_shiftyep, guess so06:17
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Naradahi i can't find the package xml-twig-tools in kubuntu but i can find it on debian; what am i doing wrong06:17
mind_shiftone thing I don't like about apt is that it doesn't remove all the files when i want something removed06:18
lontramind_shift: i am running kubuntu becomes i want a kde-centric distro ... it just happens to use the debian package manager ... if it was based on something else then i'd happily use it as well ... i'm not some crazy fanboy here06:18
mind_shifthehe ok :)06:18
vedavoxNarada, I have it available06:18
stdinThe_Machine: can you post the output of "lsmod" to pastebin?06:18
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Naradavedavox: you're running feisty though06:18
vedavoxyes06:19
The_Machineyes stdin, one moment.06:19
Naradacan i get it on edgy06:19
lontraNarada: what flavour of debian?  etch?06:19
Naradayeah i don't have sarge to try on that06:19
vedavoxis there a backport available06:19
The_Machinehttp://pastebin.com/d76e719c306:19
The_Machinesorry, stdin http://pastebin.com/d76e719c306:20
manu_some one here how can help configuring wacom tablet?06:20
lontraNarada: have you asked in #debian?06:20
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Naradano06:24
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pag!info xml-twig-tools | Narada06:25
ubotunarada: xml-twig-tools: Command line tools for processing XML documents. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.26-2 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 104 kB06:25
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stdinThe_Machine: what does "lspci | grep Ethernet" show ?06:26
pagNarada, that package is supposed to be installable with even the default repos...06:26
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Naradawell my apt-cache search doesn't return it06:27
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The_Machinestdin, 03:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) LAN Controller (rev 01)06:27
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pagNarada, are you on Feisty?06:28
Bubsterlontra, are you able to receive private messages?06:28
Naradano06:29
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lontra_Bubster: hi06:33
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odlaBubster: what do you need to pm me about?06:33
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vzduchis it possible to install texlive _and_ kile?  when I installed texlive (w/ aptitude) it removed my tetex pkgs because they conflict w/ texlive.  Then when I wanted to install kile it complained that my texlive pkgs were broken, and about unresolved dependencies to the tetex pkgs which were removed before06:36
stdinThe_Machine: hmm, there isn't any option in the module to enable gigabit, so I'm not sure06:36
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spawn57try doing apt-get check06:38
User1hi guys06:38
User1got a problem here06:38
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|Zero|H|I|T|hello06:38
|Zero|H|I|T|can anyone help me please?06:39
logixoulI am installing feisty on a laptop06:39
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spawn57and you might wanna check your sources.list, if you got a repositories, especially ones that aren't very well managed, it might give you trouble06:39
|Zero|H|I|T|something with apt-get06:39
axiaPessoal, qual sistema linux que tem a melhor interface grfica?06:39
|Zero|H|I|T|anyone?06:39
spawn57|Zero|H|I|T|: just aks =P06:39
pag!ask | |Zero|H|I|T|06:39
ubotu|Zero|H|I|T|: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:39
vzduchspawn57: who are you talking to?06:39
logixouland it boots fine, but when I select "start kubuntu" in the menu, it loads forever06:39
spawn57vzduch: you =P06:39
logixoulany hints?06:39
vzduch!pt | axia06:40
ubotuaxia: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|zero@Zero:~$ sudo apt-get install kdevelop06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|  ... 06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|  06:40
logixoulheh heh06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|Reading state information... 06:40
geniilogixoul: You should have 192Mb or more on the computer06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|A  'apt-get f install'      :06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|     :06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|  kdevelop:  : libcvsservice0 (>= 4:3.5.5-1)     06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|  python2.5:  : python2.5-minimal (= 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3)   2.5.1-0ubuntu1   06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|  python2.5-dev:  : python2.5 (= 2.5.1-0ubuntu1)   2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3   06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|E:  .  'apt-get -f install'     (   ).06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|zero@Zero:~$06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|some of these is greek06:40
The_Machineholy moly06:40
logixoulthats like greek to me dude :P06:40
vzduch!paste | |Zero|H|I|T|06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|but i can translate06:40
ubotu|Zero|H|I|T|: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|lol06:40
The_Machineliterally greek.06:40
pag|Zero|H|I|T|, sudo apt-get install -f06:40
|Zero|H|I|T|sorry06:40
pag(as it does, by the way, say)06:41
|Zero|H|I|T|   python2.5 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3 (  .../python2.5_2.5.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...06:41
|Zero|H|I|T|   python2.5 ...06:41
|Zero|H|I|T|dpkg:     /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.5_2.5.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):06:41
Naradasigh06:41
|Zero|H|I|T|   buffer_write(fd) (9, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb   `./usr/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/rgbimg.so': No space left on device06:41
|Zero|H|I|T|dpkg-deb:   paste     (Broken pipe)06:41
|Zero|H|I|T|     :06:41
|Zero|H|I|T| /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.5_2.5.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb06:41
|Zero|H|I|T|E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:41
|Zero|H|I|T|zero@Zero:~$06:41
|Zero|H|I|T|i did sudo apt-get install -f06:41
Naradadude use the pastebin06:41
odla|Zero|H|I|T|: pastebin06:42
|Zero|H|I|T|i have to dl that?06:42
vzduchspawn57: you mean only 'apt-get check' or another option after that?06:42
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spawn57vzduch: don't think so06:42
|Zero|H|I|T|just apt-get install -f06:42
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_4str1!ru | |Zero|H|I|T|06:42
|Zero|H|I|T|it says no space left06:42
ubotu|Zero|H|I|T|:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke06:42
pag"No space left on device"  I think that's pretty explains itself06:42
_4str1should be easyer06:42
|Zero|H|I|T|and i cant uninstall anything06:42
pag_4str1, that was greek, not russian ;)06:43
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|Zero|H|I|T|there is space06:43
Hobbsee!paste | |Zero|H|I|T|06:43
ubotu|Zero|H|I|T|: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:43
Hobbsee!gr06:43
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes06:43
|Zero|H|I|T|i read ru too06:43
_4str1oups sorry :p06:43
|Zero|H|I|T|but not good06:43
warrior-wizardy'a des francais ici ?06:43
vzduchspawn57: that doesn't do much06:43
vzduch!fr | warrior-wizard06:43
ubotuwarrior-wizard: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:43
Naradawhat the hell is up with ubotu06:43
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|Zero|H|I|T|anyone can help?06:43
warrior-wizardok06:43
cristianUbuntu Rocks ah!06:43
pagNarada, umm.. nothing? works as it should :O06:43
cristianthat's what happens...06:43
|Zero|H|I|T|the /var partition is 1.9 gbs06:44
Naradahmm yeah you're right06:44
spawn57vzduch: what about your repositories, you have a lot of them on it?06:44
|Zero|H|I|T|plz06:44
Naradait's just my end showing questions marks06:44
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johnhey06:44
_4str1|Zero|H|I|T|: type df -h in your termianl to see haw many free space you have06:44
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pagNarada, the problem is in your encoding, not ubotu. it looks like it should with UTF-806:45
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vedavoxNarada: you need to install some helenic fonts to see it06:45
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|Zero|H|I|T|the /usr part is 100% WTF?06:45
Naradayeah that's what i said; the problem is at my end06:45
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vedavoxZero, use df to see whats taking up the space, try removing documentation, that can usually save quite a bit06:46
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|Zero|H|I|T|but /usr is 1.9gb06:46
vzduchspawn57: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1869 <-- my sources.list06:46
|Zero|H|I|T|maybe /usr/local has many things06:46
pag|Zero|H|I|T|, you have different partition for every directory? :O06:46
vedavoxmy /usr partition is 10gb, and /usr/local is another 10 gb, but I like to play a lot06:47
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lucas-r2d2Hi, I have got a big problem with my apt. It seems that I cannot install any kde-packages. If I try to install, e.g., kdesdk, it tells me that this package depends on some other's and say's my packages are crashed.06:48
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mind_shiftok06:48
|Zero|H|I|T|lub is 700mb?06:48
|Zero|H|I|T|lib06:48
mind_shiftI'm getting kubuntu now so I can have kolourpaint06:48
cristianSo, what's the f**** prob yo!06:48
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paglucas-r2d2, pastebin the whole output of sudo apt-get install kdesdk06:49
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vedavoxzero, do you roll your own kernels by any chance?06:49
pag!paste | lucas-r2d206:49
ubotulucas-r2d2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:49
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|Zero|H|I|T|vedavox no06:49
wyjechm06:49
logixoulHi. I booted into the Feisty CD and selected "install or run kubuntu", then it says "loading" and this phase takes like 15 minutes, then "loading linux kernel" pops up and sloowly reaches 15% then freezes. Any hints? Pretty please :)06:50
lucas-r2d2http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30572/06:50
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lucas-r2d2it's german...06:51
paglucas-r2d2, you have all the repos enabled?06:51
lucas-r2d2main, universe, multiverse, wine upstream.06:52
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vedavoxzero: if I was you I would repartion, 1.9GB for /usr is not a lot if you are installing lots of stuff, or go through and remove documentation and any cruft you have built up06:52
Evangelionhello everyone06:52
Evangelionhere is an enthusiastic linux user whose faiith in linux is wavering06:53
paglucas-r2d2, is this error displayed at any installation, or just kdesdk?06:53
|Zero|H|I|T|the share file is really big06:53
Evangelionbecause knetworkmanager in kubuntu used to automatically detect wireless networks06:53
vedavoxhow big is /usr/share/doc06:53
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Evangelionand list them with ease when I first installed kubuntu06:53
Evangelionbut now it doesnt even show a wireless section06:53
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lucas-r2d2it is shown when installing any kde-package (i think so, cowsay works)06:54
|Zero|H|I|T|100mb06:54
spawn57vzduch: the bleeding edge? try without it?06:54
Evangelionit shows me the enable and disable wireless option06:54
Evangelionbut nothing else06:54
Evangelionany suggestions?06:54
Evangelionim now using the wired connecction06:54
|Zero|H|I|T|should i remove it?06:54
vedavoxEvang, I gave up on the network manager and use wifi radar instead06:55
|Zero|H|I|T|or can i just move it to my external HDD?06:55
paglucas-r2d2, have you installed something from unofficial repos?06:55
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lucas-r2d2pag: only wine and some self-built apps...06:55
vedavoxZero: if its only 100mb leave it, you could symlink it to the external, but I would be looking at a repartition to increase the 1.9gb size of /usr06:56
Evangelionwifi-radar06:56
Evangelionhmm06:56
paglucas-r2d2, care to tell more about those self-built apps?06:56
vzduchI'm kind-of puzzle.. why does aptitude list tetex as a dependency for kile while apt-get does not?06:56
vzduch*puzzled06:56
Evangelionvedavox: what would be the equivalent aptitude install <name for wifi radar>?06:57
lucas-r2d2pag: well, reconstructor, glob2, geant4, clhep and some others06:57
cloakablevzduch: aptitude installs <reccomended> stuff, apt-get doesn't :P06:57
pagvzduch, aptitude likes to think reccomendations as depencies too iirc... not sure though06:57
spawn57vzduch: beats me too06:57
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paglucas-r2d2, hmm.. strange. I just tried installing kdesdk myself, and it went fine, so it's not a packaging issue.. tbh I'm getting out of the ideas06:58
paglucas-r2d2, E: Kaputte Pakete  == Broken Package?06:59
lucas-r2d2pag: think so.06:59
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lucas-r2d2pag: could that be an issue of having kde and some gnome applications installed together?07:00
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paglucas-r2d2, I doubt it  they should work just fine together07:01
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lucas-r2d2pag: ok, then I think it's time for a reinstallation...07:01
paglucas-r2d2, try running sudo apt-get install -f  and sudo dpkg --configure -a07:01
reagleBRKLNi'm trying to rename some jpegs, but krename's automatic preview, nor konq's icon view will work on them. is there a size cut off? it works in other directories, but these jpegs are ~2M07:02
reagleBRKLNi get the default icon instead of the thumbnail07:02
lucas-r2d2pag: doesn't work, I tried it myself, it doesn't do anything07:02
mind_shiftHEY GUYS!!!!! IM GOING TO INSTALL KUBUNTU NOW!!!!!! :D07:03
underdog5004no need to shout07:03
paglucas-r2d2, what about  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  That'll take a lot of time though07:03
The_Machinehehe @ mind_shift07:03
The_Machineyou'll be happy you did.07:03
mind_shiftbrb I hope!07:04
TheGateKeeperlol07:04
Evangelionanyone who would like to help me get my WiFi up and running again on my laptop07:04
underdog5004I'll give it a shot, Evangelion07:04
Evangelionthank u underdog500407:04
Evangelionwell07:04
underdog5004which chipset is it?07:04
Evangelionwhen I first installed FiestyFawn it worked07:05
Evangelionjust a sec07:05
Evangelionlspci  returns : 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)07:05
underdog5004ok, hold on07:05
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underdog5004is your laptop an HP DV6120?07:06
underdog5004Evangelion, what model is your laptop?07:07
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underdog5004fahadysf, you still with me?07:09
fahadysfits a dv6395ea07:09
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fahadysfpractically the same as a 6295us07:09
fahadysfsorry for the late reply07:09
fahadysfi was feeding my pet kitten07:09
fahadysf:p07:09
underdog5004no problem. Which model is your lappy?07:10
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fahadysfdv6395ea07:10
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underdog5004ok07:10
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fahadysfquite similar to the 6120 I guess07:11
fahadysfIntel 945GM chipset07:11
underdog5004fahadysf, ok, do ifconfig -a07:11
underdog5004see if your system sees it, basically07:11
fahadysfit does07:12
fahadysfit shows up as eth107:12
fahadysfeth0 being the wired interface07:12
underdog5004ok, do this: sudo ifup eth107:12
deitarion2I set up a ~/.asoundrc in order to make the in-webcam mic on my mother's system default and i DID re-enable dmix, but I can't figure out how to get audio output from the flash pluigin working again. everything else works fine. A little help please?07:12
fahadysfifup: interface eth1 already configured07:13
underdog5004hmm07:13
fahadysfI have tried manually setting the IP07:13
underdog5004type in kdesu wlassistant07:13
underdog5004in a terminal07:13
fahadysfwlassistant not installed07:13
underdog5004huh...07:14
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underdog5004open up the kmenu, go to internet, and look for something to do with wireless...07:14
underdog5004please07:14
fahadysfknetworkmanager is the utility u are looking for07:14
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fahadysfthat is what USED to be able to set up my wireless card properly07:14
underdog5004ok, I didn't realize that was installed by default now...07:15
underdog5004so, open that up07:15
fahadysfok07:15
fahadysfdone07:15
underdog5004does it see your wireless card?07:15
fahadysfwell that is what im not so sure about07:15
Juz_moiI just installed and my PCI RTL8139 isn't recognized, says I don't have a nic card?07:15
fahadysfit does enable and disable Wireless07:15
Juz_moihow do I get it recognized?07:15
underdog5004rtl8139?07:15
underdog5004oh, nvm07:15
underdog5004sorry, wrong person07:15
fahadysfand the Manual configuration menu shows the wireless card07:16
underdog5004fahadysf, ok, but can you see any networks with it?07:16
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fahadysfnope07:16
fahadysfi cant see any networks07:16
underdog5004hmm07:16
Juz_moiyea realtec 813907:16
underdog5004what was the model number again, fahadysf ?07:16
fahadysfalthough I am perfectly sure that the router is configured properly07:16
fahadysfdv6395ea07:16
arekanderuHey guys, I have installed my graphic card + opengl, but something's not right. I lag etc. Could somebody help me?07:16
Raystlin_FMfahadysf, is the wireless radio turned on?07:16
fahadysfyes it is07:16
underdog5004for the wireless card07:16
Juz_moioops I'll wait I'm confusing the wireless issue sri07:16
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fahadysfthe little sliding button on my laptop which enables bluetooth and WiFi is in the right place07:17
Raystlin_FMjuz_moi, what does lspci show?07:17
Juz_moijust a sec I'll go try it07:17
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arekanderuHey guys, I have installed my graphic card + opengl, but something's not right. I lag etc. Could somebody help me?07:18
underdog5004arekanderu, glxinfo | grep direct07:18
arekanderuunderdog5004: ty07:18
arekanderuunderdog5004: i'll try it07:18
underdog5004if it says direct rendering is enabled/true, then you're good to go07:18
arekanderuAhh, k ty07:19
arekanderuBrb07:19
fahadysfI have an idea on how to get it to work07:19
arekanderuunderdog5004: It says Yes >.<07:19
arekanderuunderdog5004: But I've never lagged this much thoguh07:19
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arekanderuunderdog5004: Though*07:19
Juz_moiRaystlin_FM: it sees it07:19
fahadysfI know that some configuration files must have been effed up07:20
fahadysfbut I dont know which ones07:20
Raystlin_FMjuz_moi, is this the only NIC in your system?07:20
underdog5004fahadysf, you may just need to use ndiswrapper07:20
Juz_moiyep07:20
fahadysfbut y07:20
underdog5004arekanderu, which graphics card is it?07:20
fahadysfit used to work07:20
fahadysfon this very distro07:20
Raystlin_FMjuz_moi, what does ifconfig show?07:20
fahadysfin this very install07:20
fahadysfit just stopped working all of a sudden07:20
fahadysfits definitely a config problem somewhere07:21
Raystlin_FMfahadysf, i have the same wireless NIC in my Dell laptop... you don't need to use ndiswrapper...07:21
fahadysfyeah I can guess that07:21
Juz_moishows only Lo07:21
arekanderuunderdog5004: It's a Geforce MX44007:22
arekanderuunderdog5004: I've installed everything right and stuff07:22
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underdog5004arekanderu, how did you install the driver? Envy?07:22
arekanderuunderdog5004: nah, just a bunch of commands and downloads07:22
fahadysfRaystlin_FM: any other ideas on what might have gone wrong07:22
arekanderuunderdog5004: what's envy?07:22
underdog5004!envy > arekanderu07:23
Raystlin_FMjuz_moi, try sudo ifup eth007:23
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arekanderuunderdog5004: What the..?07:24
Juz_moisez ingoring unknown interface eth007:24
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underdog5004Juz_moi, ifconfig -a07:24
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geniiunderdog5004: Seems to me he has mismatched MAC address for eth0 in the file /etc/iftab07:26
geniiunderdog5004: Or no /etc/network/interfaces   entry07:26
fahadysfso anyone have any idea where the confi files for Wireless networks are stored07:26
Juz_moiifconfig -a gives sme only lo07:26
Juz_moisame07:26
fahadysflike the SSID for the network and the WPA configuration07:26
underdog5004genii, good thinkin...I was going to get his /etc/network/interface thing squared away next07:27
underdog5004lol07:27
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fahadysf>.<07:27
geniiwork, sorta AFK07:27
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machine_1hola07:28
underdog5004fahadysf, so, open up /etc/network/interfaces and see if eth0 or eth1 (whichever, I can't remember which for your wireless) is defined.07:28
fahadysfunderdog5004: k just a sec07:29
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fahadysfauto eth107:30
fahadysfiface eth1 inet dhcp07:30
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underdog5004darn...07:30
fahadysfits just like the other interface07:30
fahadysfthe wired one07:30
underdog5004I'm all out of ideas, fahadysf...google is your friend...or someone else in here more knowledgeable than I.07:31
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Juz_moihmm i'm going to check in the bios for something, brb07:32
fahadysf:D07:32
fahadysfthanx for the effort07:32
fahadysfim quite comfortable with linux myself07:32
fahadysfand I have already done all the entry level trouble shooting myself07:32
underdog5004good to hear07:32
geniiJuz_moi: Yes, if your adapter is disabled there it could explain a lot :)07:32
fahadysfI just couldnt find the reason knetworkmanager wasnt showing any wireless networks anymore07:33
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fahadysfI guess ill have to google for more info on how knetworkmanager works07:33
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fahadysfthanx anyway underdog500407:33
underdog5004np07:33
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ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash07:34
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fahadysflol07:35
fahadysfin the end07:35
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fahadysfthe problem IS knetworkmanager07:36
fahadysfall I did was07:36
fahadysfaptitude install wlassistant07:36
fahadysfand used that07:36
fahadysfit found my network07:36
underdog5004it worked?07:36
underdog5004nice07:36
fahadysfand now im up and running07:36
jhutchins_lt!enter07:36
fahadysfso now im uninstalling knetworkmanager and will use the hassle free wlassistant from now on07:37
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!07:37
Juz_moigurrr no joy07:37
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elite1hey anyone know where to get aircrack-ng ?07:42
geniielite1: They stopped supporting that maybe 4 years ago now07:43
elite1no u can still use it thou07:43
pag!info aircrack-ng07:43
ubotuaircrack-ng: wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.6.2-7ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 186 kB, installed size 528 kB07:43
elite1where do u download it @?07:43
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cloakableelite1: In the archives, afaik :P07:43
cloakablesudo aptitude install aircrack-ng07:44
cloakableEnable universe before that, though07:44
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elite1k07:44
elite1how thou?07:44
elite1nvm07:44
elite1it cant find any packages07:45
geniielite1: Also their repo,: deb http://aircrack-ng.le-vert.net/ubuntu <distname> main     where distname is dapper or edgy. dunno if feisty there07:45
elite1doesnt work07:46
elite1unknown host07:46
genii!repo | elite107:46
ubotuelite1: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:46
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elite1is there a site where  i can just download it from? i tried using terminal but cant find anypackages07:47
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biruzhi ppl! can anyone help me setting anti-aliasing on my ATI card??07:47
jhutchins!find aircrack07:47
ubotuFound: aircrack, aircrack-ng07:47
jhutchins!info aircrack-ng07:47
ubotuaircrack-ng: wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.6.2-7ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 186 kB, installed size 528 kB07:47
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geniijhutchins: He needs to enable the right repo in sources.list07:48
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jhutchinsgenii: correct.07:48
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stdinuniverse/multiverse are enabled by default in feisty07:48
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elite1is there any brute force programs available for kubuntu?07:52
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eagles0513875elite1: go into adept and type in search brute force07:53
jhutchinsHeh.  Wants a point-and-click network hacking tool.07:54
elite1just wondering if brute force works with kubuntu?07:55
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jhutchinselite1: Brute force what?07:56
elite1any of them07:56
jhutchinsany of what/07:56
jhutchins?07:56
elite1programs07:56
elite1i need to find the password of a router07:56
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jhutchinselite1: Not really.07:57
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jhutchinselite1: If it's your router, just reset it.07:57
elite1not really?07:57
jhutchinselite1: If it's not your router, ask.07:57
elite1thats the prob its not mine07:57
elite1lol07:57
elite1yeah that will go well07:57
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elite1i can get into to my user but not admin i tried all default router names and passwords but they have it changed07:58
elite1no07:58
elite1its no wep07:58
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elite1the connection is Default07:58
elite1i need to find the pass for DMZ07:58
cloakableReset :P07:59
elite1so i can use X-link kai.07:59
elite1not my  router07:59
eagles0513875ive neverhad to use bruteforce for anything07:59
elite1well it helps if u have alot of time07:59
elite1i have to portforward a port 30,000 but need to know the routers admin pass.08:00
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cloakableelite1: Asking in that case would be a good idea. You are meant to have access, yes?08:02
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elite1yeah08:02
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cloakableThen ask the owner :P08:03
elite1okay08:03
elite1i should call him up08:03
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elite1ask him to reset his router so i can use x-link.oh and tell him im using his signal too08:03
cloakableHeh08:04
biruzcan anyone tell me how to enable anti-aliasing on my ATI card??08:04
biruzplz?08:04
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stdinIf a "client" tried to brute force my router he wouldn't be a client for long08:04
cloakableNo, you ask for him to forward the port.08:04
geniielite1: So then you are NOT meant to have access08:04
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elite1there are many programs in windows to make sure it wont show up as a client under your router even a psp can do that08:05
elite1but windows sucks08:05
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stdinif you get an IP, then it shows as a client08:05
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trakinashello!08:06
trakinasis there any "lamp" script to install apache+mysql+php without any special configuration?08:06
geniistdin If you set a static IP in top of same range that is not used by dhcp server you still get in and not show as client08:06
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trakinasi just want to test some little scripts08:07
cloakableTrue.08:07
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elite1the static ip of there router 192.168.0.1 like all d-links just that i need the DMZ to be enabled for my computer08:08
stdingenii: I suppose that's what MAC filtering was made for08:08
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elite1how long has linux been around for?08:10
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genii199108:11
pagheh... same year as I :)08:11
elite1what was the os called?08:11
geniiminix08:11
stdinlinux != OS08:11
pagelite1, linux is just a kernel08:11
elite1wow wasnt even born then08:11
geniiminix evolved into linux08:12
SlimeyPeteerm, no it didn't08:12
SlimeyPeteminix is a seperate kernel/OS and is still around08:12
SlimeyPeteit just provided some inspiration for Torvalds08:12
geniiSlimeyPete: Well, he used the source as starting point :) Me error08:12
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elite1how hard is it to start your own os?08:13
pagelite1, OS or linux distro?08:14
geniipag good distinction08:14
elite1linux distro08:14
elite1sorry08:14
elite1not an acutal os08:14
midijerymepis is good08:14
pagelite1, easy.. real easy... keeping it up to date and working - that's the problem08:14
elite1oh08:15
geniielite1 If you are actually interested in this, look up "linux from scratch" in google08:15
trakinasno one? i just need a small apache install with mysql and php.08:15
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midijeryAlso kubuntu/ubuntu08:15
trakinasbuuuut Im not good with mysql, so any scripts to help configing mysql??08:15
geniitrakinas: As far as i know there is no pre-packaged all in one LAMP package. Usually you would be doing a clean LAMP install from the server/alternate CD08:16
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elite1_why/08:19
elite1_why did it set my nickname?08:19
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elite1_are u allowed to sell your own linux distro or you have to keep it free?08:20
vzduchelite1_: why did what set your nickname?08:20
trakinasgenii: hmmm... okay! since Im not going to run a sever but only play around with php, i think i can deal with small mysql configs.08:20
elite1_i didnt08:20
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elite1there08:20
elite1my nickname is owned by someone else?08:20
vzduchelite1: because you were already logged in08:21
elite1oh lol08:21
elite1how did i do that?08:21
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elite1ohh i think my internet cutout or something08:22
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elite1how was the one that built kubuntu? and the other distros's a group of developers?08:23
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trakinaswhat you mean?08:25
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elite1imdownload xubuntu edgy 6.1008:27
elite1downloading*08:27
midijeryaway has no counter comand like "I'm back"08:27
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trakinasmidijery: /away08:28
trakinasor you could aliase one "/back" for yourself08:29
midijeryI guess you just have to send a message to say your back, I'm new at this.08:29
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midijeryI'll try the /away 2 times to see if that works also.08:30
midijeryIt doesn't seem to work like a switch.08:31
trakinasmidijery: btw, in konversation is /away~/back08:31
midijeryThanks /back works08:34
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midijeryc u latr08:36
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KasleProi've downloaded lime wire other.. what is the command to install it?08:42
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stdinKaslePro: download the deb08:43
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KasleProdeb?08:43
KasleProi'm a newbie08:44
KaslePro:P08:44
cloakableKaslePro: The format Ubuntu/Debian, etc uses :P08:44
cloakableFor packages :)08:44
armanishi guys08:44
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KasleProok... where can i download that?08:45
armanisi have a big problem08:45
stdinKaslePro: on the website download page, click on " Linux (DEB - Ubuntu, Debian)"08:45
stdinKaslePro: by the penguin :)08:45
armanisi've just configured sagem fast 80008:45
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KasleProcloakable: what's the "download page"?:P08:46
armanisi can get acces to my ftp but not to internet Oo08:46
armaniswith konqueror08:46
cloakableKaslePro: Don't know, don't use LimeWire, I use KTorrent :P08:46
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armanisis someone able to tell me the command to get firefox please ?08:47
KasleProk torrent? is that a bit torren program?08:47
stdinKaslePro: http://www.limewire.com/download/version.php08:47
armanisplease08:47
vedavoxsudo apt-get install firefox08:47
armanisthannks08:47
vedavoxbut it sounds like you have not got your routes set correctly08:47
armanisarf08:48
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KasleProstdin: what do i do after the download?08:48
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stdinKaslePro: right click it, go to Kubuntu Package Maenu, and choose to install08:49
KasleProthank you!=)08:50
armanisarf i can't download it ...08:50
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armanisthey say  dependance or something like that08:50
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armanishein?08:51
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armanisthere is someone speaking french here? i have some difficulties to understand english08:52
stdin!fr08:52
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:52
armanisthanks very much friends08:53
KasleProwhen i am about to install java a licence agreement occupears... what should i do?08:53
midijery<armanis> Do you have a synaptic or other package manager08:53
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lontraKaslePro: accept it08:53
KasleProhow?08:54
lontra KaslePro: use the tab button and then click yes08:54
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KasleProthanks=)08:54
brad__how would I go about moving my files from the home folder on my root drive to a seperate home partition which was created ouit t of unallocated space08:54
midijeryI don't speak French only a little Spannish08:54
brad__apparently creating a home partition and mounting/enabling it is NOT the way to do it08:54
vedavoxbrad, separate /home partition?08:55
trakinasa got an error with mysql-client-5,0. just apeared "error". would be possible to refresh it lately?08:55
vzduchKaslePro: what's wrong w/ FrostWire?08:55
Daisuke_Idovzduch: it's a haven for illegal porn?08:55
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Daisuke_Idoi'd say that's pretty wrong08:55
brad__well I wanted to create a media partition for my videos etc, and then I came here08:56
brad__trying to get advice on doing it08:56
vedavoxbrad have you decalred it in /etc/fstab08:56
randyIm having a problem with my sound, ive tried all the things ubotu said but its still not working :(08:56
brad__and against my better judgement was talked into mounting it as a home partition instead08:56
Daisuke_Idorandy: what card?08:56
randyAudigy SE08:56
brad__except i've already messed something up because applications which arent currently open are not opening08:57
trakinasbrad__: you can hhave any given partition mouted in any where you wish. you just have to configure it correctly on fstab08:57
vzduchDaisuke_Ido: do you think LimeWire isn't?08:57
brad__the thing is there is already a home folder on my root drive08:57
trakinasbrad__: for example, you could have a partition /dev/sda5  being mounted as /my-media-files/08:57
brad__so the computer has no idea what the hell is going on when a /home partitoin mounts08:57
trakinasbrad__: i have a link that mighty help ya08:58
trakinasone second.08:58
brad__well, I cant open new applications right now I dontknow why08:58
brad__so I guess I need to reboot off of a livecd which is a shame becauseI have a horrible cd drive08:58
vedavoxbrad, open the console and type 'man fstab' that should give you the info08:58
Daisuke_Idovzduch: it is as well08:59
Daisuke_Idoi was referring to the entire protocol.08:59
brad__konsole wont open, the computer cant find it because I enabled the partition mounted as /home08:59
Daisuke_Idoa terrible concept and even worse execution08:59
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trakinasbrad__: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/09:00
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brad__I've said like six times I can't access anything right now and need to reset onto a live cd and delete the partition (again)09:00
trakinasjust sudo umount /home/09:00
trakinasbrad__: no. you dont need to09:01
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randyHes gone09:01
jhutchinsSigh.09:01
vedavoxhe can't get into a shell09:01
jhutchinsIt's all our fault.09:01
jhutchinsLinux sucks.09:01
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CS5it is not your fault.09:01
trakinashe09:01
CS5LMAO09:02
trakinasi think he is with good will.09:02
CS5Linux what?09:02
slow-motionhallo09:02
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jhutchinsExperience is proportionate to data destroyed.  He's making some progress.09:02
trakinasi mean, he didnt say it sucks09:02
trakinashe was just pissed off cause he couldnt do it.09:02
CS5Ah ic09:02
randyAnyone wanna help me with my Sound Card? Or sound not working thingie?09:02
jhutchinsPerhaps we should have suggested Ctrl-Alt-F1.09:02
trakinasin anycase, he could have just logged into another tty09:02
trakinasthen umounted home.09:03
vedavoxyou know you been using linux too long when you break stuff on purpose just to play about fixing it09:03
randylol09:03
jhutchinstrakinas: I'm thinking he had worse problems than that.09:03
trakinasand rebooted. also, removed the line in fstab if it was the case09:03
trakinasjhutchins seriously?09:03
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jhutchinstrakinas: Of course, it could just be that since he didn't have a home directory, desktop shortcuts and such weren't working, and since he didn't know how to get to a console...09:03
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trakinasjhutchins he! probably09:04
trakinasand i was complaning about kubuntu not working with my dvd-drive for reading09:05
trakinasyes. it CAN BURN, but it can read any dvd...09:05
trakinas*cant09:05
trakinasjust the FILES it recorded... oO09:05
trakinastested with all my dvd's, burnt on gentoo... and with a dvd-rw burnt on kubuntu.09:05
vedavoxtrakinas: using automount?09:06
trakinasit could read and copy the file burnt here, but not the one burnt on gentoo. bizzaaarrrrrrerrr09:06
trakinasvedavox: auto, manual, magical, ilogical....09:06
trakinasit got a bunch of i/o errors09:06
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trakinaskernels frm 2.6.18 and below works great09:07
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vedavoxAaargh, I am never buying another ATI card09:08
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trakinasat least with other live-cds and gentoo on my other partition09:08
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CS5Vedavox: You and me both.09:09
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CS5Vedavox: took a few days to get mine fully functional, and about 4 different faq's09:10
CS5Anyone know why a HDD might show as a floppy109:10
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CS5I dont know of a floppy with 38 GB free space09:11
trakinasi better be going for now. need to see the day light for change09:11
vedavoxno, I downloaded the latest fglrx this morining, installed, left with 'AMD Testing Use Only' on my screen, and now they put the stable back to the old drivers09:11
CS5Vedavox: OMG, I'd freak out.09:11
trakinasCS5: maybe is a magalomaniac floppy09:11
CS5Lol09:11
vedavoxexternal HD?09:12
CS5no internal09:12
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vedavoxits on /dev/fd109:13
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vedavoxyou could just rename it09:13
CS5Yes09:13
CS5ok09:13
CS5ty09:13
CS5I try to mount it and it says not a block device09:13
CS5so rename to hda and Im good?09:13
trakinasgtg! cheers folks!09:14
vedavoxno forget the rename, I was joking, ha it got a filesystem on it?09:14
CS5NTFS....09:14
CS5Wait....wrong...09:14
vedavoxdo you know what its device location should be?09:14
CS5My ntfs only has 12-18 GB free so probably not09:14
CS5and the only other one I have is this one that linux is on09:15
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CS5HDA109:15
KasleProhow do i update rythmbox music player anyone?09:15
CS5for ntfs.09:15
cloakableKaslePro: apt-get update & apt-get upgrade09:15
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cloakableIf there's a upgrade available, it'll upgrade it :)09:16
vedavoxCS5: do 'df -h' in a shell and see what it says09:16
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CS5vedavox: http://pastebin.com/ma8b321a09:17
vedavoxor if its not mounted and you are sure its hda1 use 'pmount /dev/hda1'09:18
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jhutchinsPerhaps it's /dev/fd0 or /dev/floppy09:18
CS5no i am not sure now.09:19
CS5My Computer shows totally different stuff than this09:19
cloakablefd0 is the floppy drive. Corresponds to A:/ on Windurz :)09:19
vedavoxoh deer, its time to go get some beer09:19
CS5floppy1 shows 31.5 GB free.09:19
vedavoxoooh I'm a poet09:19
KasleProthe rythmbox music player says that i can not play the file beacause i don't have the nessesary plug-ins.. what shuld i do?09:20
CS5Vedavox: and you didnt even know it09:20
vedavoxfrom your df, thats your linux root09:20
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cloakableCS5: What does /etc/fstab say about it?09:20
kharlosshi i have a problem. i have two computers in the same class  81.196.x.x  both  rutable IP`s . I`m in a big LAN network . My both computers are in the same Switch , Traficc bettween them is verry  verry slow . Any Ideeas ?09:20
jhutchinsCS5: Let's try the following: mount, then fdisk -l09:20
KaslePro the rythmbox music player says that i can not play the file beacause i don't have the nessesary plug-ins.. what shuld i do? please help.. i'm a newbie09:21
jhutchinsKaslePro: Play it with amarok?09:21
jhutchins!find rythmbox09:21
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CS5http://pastebin.com/m35efbe6909:21
ubotuPackage/file rythmbox does not exist in feisty09:21
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jhutchinsCS5: Ugh.  When automount goes bad.09:22
CS5Oh yes.09:23
jhutchinsCS5: pastebin your fstab please.09:23
jhutchinsCS5: The system appears to be running normally?09:23
CS5that last pastebin was the fstab09:23
cloakablejhutchins: He did :P09:23
CS5http://pastebin.com/m35efbe6909:24
CS5Oh yes09:24
CS5works great09:24
CS5Perfect other than that09:24
jhutchinsCS5: This has survived a reboot?09:25
CS5Many times.09:25
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jhutchinsOk, then it needs to be fixed.  I'd start out by removing the two floppy entries completely.09:25
danyacan someone plz take a look at the update output .. after I've added the wine repos .. I keep getting no installation candidate error .. I'm on feisty 64-bit http://pastebin.ca/62812209:25
CS5ok09:25
jhutchinsumount them.09:25
CS5Neither are mounted in Computer:///09:26
jhutchinsCS5: Ignore any GUI tools for now until you get this fixed.09:26
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CS5ok09:26
jhutchinsCS5: That's probably what got you into this mess.09:26
CS5remove from fstab?09:26
jhutchinssudo umount /media/floppy0 /media/floppy109:27
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jhutchinsCS5: kdesu kate /etc/fstab, remove the two lines.09:27
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CS5k09:27
jhutchinsCS5: Where is the data on /dev/scd0 supposed to go?09:27
CS5done and saved.09:27
danyaanyone :(09:27
jhutchinsdanya: Hang in there a bit.09:28
danyalol ok09:28
CS5I am not sure/09:28
KasleProwhat shuld i do to make rythmbox media player play mp3 files? please help, i'm a newbie09:29
jhutchinsCS5: What is it?09:29
randyokay, i got my sound to work through my motherboard but not my soundcard. Anyway to switch it?09:29
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CS5I have an internal dvdrom/cdburner and an external dvd burner09:29
CS52 internal hdd09:29
KaslePro what shuld i do to make rythmbox media player play mp3 files? please help, i'm a newbie09:29
CS51 ntfs and 1 linux with swap09:29
CS5ext309:29
jhutchinsCS5: You're not sure which scd0 is?09:30
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CS5Not sure, no.09:30
CS5Is there a way to tell. Remember I am fairly new to linux09:31
KaslePro what shuld i do to make rythmbox media player play mp3 files? please help, i'm a newbie09:31
jhutchinssudo fdisk -l09:31
randy!MP309:31
jhutchinsThat will list everything.09:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:31
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jhutchinsKaslePro: Please be patient and don't repeat while your original question is still on-screen.09:32
lontra!wine09:32
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:32
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WhtWolfTeraDynejhutchins: Might want to rephrase that. His screen might be smaller than yours. >_>;09:32
CS5jhutchins: http://pastebin.com/m76ae649d09:32
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lontradanya: it's possible that repo is just down ... are you just trying to get the amd64 package?09:33
KimppaHello. Can someone recommend a good network trafic monitoring tool for kde?09:33
danyalontra : yes .. since I'm on a 64-bit09:33
Kimppa*traffic09:34
lontradanya: ok ... copy this into a terminal:  wget- c http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/feisty/wine_0.9.41~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1_amd64.deb09:34
lontradanya: then:  sudo dpkg -i wine*09:34
KasleProcan someone please tell me how to make rythmbox or aero to play mp3 files??09:34
lontraKaslePro: someone already did09:34
CS5Jhutchins: If I had to Guess I'd say its the CdBurner. But guessing hasnt ended well under linux09:34
lontraKaslePro: look at the factoid from ubotu that randy invoked09:34
WhtWolfTeraDyne!codecs | KaslePro09:35
ubotuKaslePro: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:35
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danyalontra : sudo wget- c?09:36
lontraKaslePro: also there is no need to repeat as often as you are ... it annoys people and makes them not want to help you09:36
lontradanya: no need for sudo wget -c ... just wget -c09:36
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danyalontra : ok :) thanks I'll get back to u once It's done :)09:38
lontradanya: np09:38
LadySerenaugh09:39
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LadySerenaI'm about to uninstall all kubuntu kde packages.09:39
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CS5JHutchins: Is all lost for me?09:41
randyany help with my sound card? anyone?09:41
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servidorhi, i wanto to mount an ltsp server. i have the dvd of kubuntu 7.04, does it brings the ltsp pakage?09:42
StoneNewtis there anyway to remove all packages in kubuntu that are *not* part of the standard install?09:42
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elite1StoneNewt, why dont u do a complete re-install?09:45
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StoneNewtwell I'd then have to get all the updates etc...09:46
euricohello. I can't watch movies on Kubuntu.09:47
lontraservidor: not by default09:47
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lontraeurico: add medibuntu repo and install libdvdcss2 and w32codecs09:47
lontra!medibuntu09:47
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org09:47
elite1has any one here played red alert2? and now how to get it to run on kubuntu?09:48
euricolontra: sorry but I don't understand what you say. How can I do this? I'm still a noob on Linux09:48
StoneNewtif I could just remove all the packages from the system that aren't in the base install I wouldn't have to reconfig etc...09:48
elite1 has any one here played red alert2? and now how to get it to run on kubuntu?09:48
danyalontra : how to make sure if wine is working ?09:48
StoneNewtI have but on windows sorry09:48
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lontraeurico: go to www.medibuntu.org follow the directions for how to add it to /etc/apt/sources.list and then install w32codecs and libdvdcss209:48
euricolontra: ok09:49
lontradanya: just type wine in a terminal should be enough09:49
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lontraeurico: http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php09:49
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vmuserhttp://09:49
vmuserhi..i wonder if a kernel made for a distro could be compiled in another distro?09:49
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lontravmuser: compiled ... sure09:50
lontravmuser: a binary installed ... no09:50
lontravmuser: get the kernel source09:50
vmuserok..my question is ... sorry..i know that this is not the room i should be in..but at suse they cant answer me... i found the kernel i need.. 2.6.21 but it is made for Fedora ... I am running Suse... do u think i could install that kernel in my Suse?09:51
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StoneNewtvmuser: just get hold of the kernel source for that distro, the config file and build the kernel09:51
danyalontra :http://pastebin.ca/628164 does this means its working ?09:51
vmuserim really sorry and know that this is not the right room09:51
lontradanya: yup that means it's installed09:52
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vmuserim quite new to linux... am i wrong..but a kernel can be actually installed in any distro? I mean.,.the same kernel runs in all distro?09:52
lontradanya: now you got to find yourself a windows program to test ;)09:52
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servidort09:53
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danyalontra : thank u :) ..09:53
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kalmanhi, is this channel ok for gutsy ?09:53
lontradanya: no09:53
lontrakalman: depends ... best to go to #ubuntu+109:53
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lontradanya:  no problem :)09:54
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kalmansorry :-D09:54
servidorlontra: thanks, a have found a page, if i need more help i will ask here09:54
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euricolontra: I've added the medibuntu repository. Now how can I install the pther things you said?09:54
lontraeurico: go to a teriminal and type:  sudo apt-get install w32codecs libdvdcss209:54
euricolontra: ok09:55
lontraeurico: if that doesn't work paste on www.pastebin.ca your /etc/apt/sources.list09:55
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StoneNewtvmuser: http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/pub/doc/suse/suse9.1/adminguide9.1/ch11.html09:56
StoneNewt^^ I think that's what you're looking for09:56
vmuserthanks a lot... will check now09:56
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euricolontra: It's installed. No which media does ir work for?09:57
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euricolontra: It's installed. Now which media does ir work for?09:57
StoneNewtyou can get your kernels from www.kernel.org09:57
vmuser:)09:57
lontraeurico: it works for dvds and for window media files, quicktime, realtime, etc.09:57
euricolontra: ok. I'm going to test it now09:57
vmuseryes...ive been at www.kernel.org ... i think the best solution for me is to patch the kernel instead of compiliing it... or what do u say?09:58
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StoneNewtvmuser: building a kernel isn't such a big deal if you're slow and methodical...09:58
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lontravmuser: yeah it's actually pretty easy if you take the time to read :)09:58
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euricolontra: it's working almost perfectly. But it can't open .mpg files :(09:59
StoneNewtit gets intresting when you try to slim the kernel down to minimal w/out modules09:59
vmuserright...cause my probl is with hardware compatobility...i need the 2.6.21 ... and just cant find the rpm for suse09:59
vmuserwill download from kernel.org09:59
lontraeurico: i'm not sure ... the only other thing that i can suggest is that you install vlc or mplayer as they tend to be better media players than kaffeine10:00
StoneNewtactually what I do is build the10:00
lontraeurico: also w32codecs can't play all codecs still . . .but most10:00
euricolontra: ok. Will I'll be able to watch also, windows media files by the internet?10:01
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lontraeurico: install mplayer-mozilla ... sudo apt-get install mplayer-mozilla10:01
StoneNewtkernel with as much as I can as a module then load the modules for one specific piece of hardware at a time then once I've got everything loaded I reboot and just load thosem note what modules are loaded and build those into the kernel10:01
lontraeurico: err.. sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer10:01
StoneNewtmeh10:01
StoneNewtanyway anyone know is you can remove all packages that weren't in the standard install?10:02
lontraeurico: this plugins should also work in konqueror ... after you've installed them open konqueror -> settings -> configure konqueror -> plugins -> scan for new plugins10:03
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euricolontra: OMG!!! It's working! Goodbye Windoze! FInally I can see videos! Thank you very much for your help10:09
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Agent_bobi have this  http://intelikey.pastebin.us/38353   client side,   but what do i need server side for  this   http://intelikey.pastebin.us/38354   ?10:12
Daisuke_Idoanother one leaves MS.10:12
intelikeyit's working no errors,   i just need some advice on the etc/network/interfaces   file10:13
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Daisuke_Idowill he stay on the path of righteousness?  no one knows, but we can hope10:13
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Agent_bobanyone  ?10:15
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elite1_hey how can i get redalert2 to work on kubuntu?10:16
kalmanwith wine ?10:16
kalmanelite1_: have you tried with wine ?10:17
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ghosttigerhello10:18
Agent_bobno body knows  ????   come on guys ?10:19
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elite1_kalman, where do you get the program wine?10:21
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kirkehello, somebody knows how to modify 'resolv.conf' permanently???10:22
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Richlvhi. kubuntu 7.04 bootable cd, bluetooth connection (as you can see, working :) ) - i can ssh, ping etc10:24
Richlvbut - konqueror is not working10:24
Richlvi tried resetting proxy settings and autodetecting them, didn't work (and should work without them anyway)10:25
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Richlvand that ubuntu__ was my konversation client10:26
dijeneratehi all10:26
Richlvit seems the konq is the only one not working10:26
Richlvany ideas ?10:26
dijenerateanyone got a clue where I could get some help with kubuntu on a Raon Digital Vega?10:26
dijeneratehttp://www.dynamism.com/vega/main.shtml10:26
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dijenerateI need to get some of the hardware working and could really use a hand10:26
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Richlvrunning konq from konsole and attempting to load page shows an error (probably useless) :10:27
RichlvASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.6/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)10:27
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Richlvthe only error konq itself shows :10:28
RichlvCould not connect to host http://www.google.com10:28
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elite1_is DHCP automatic?10:29
Agent_bobelite1_ yes   and i've never been able to set it up correctly yet10:30
elite1_weird10:30
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Richlvit seems kate can't connect to remote hosts, too10:31
elite1_i had problems with networking (wireless) i put my ip adress the one i connect to in on mannual and then put DCHP back to auto so it remebers my connecting ip10:31
Richlvkbuildsycoca fails with10:31
Richlvkio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!10:31
Richlvdon't know whether this is connected10:32
elite1_this way gateway and dns servers are auto but the ip isnt seems to work fine10:32
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blackneo holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa10:32
Richlvit seems that only some k* stuff is failing10:32
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blackneopppppppppapapapa10:32
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Agent_bobRichlv that's not a "fail"  and it's normal for that message to appear  "kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!"10:33
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Richlvok, one problem to worry about less10:34
Richlvany ideas why only konq/kate fails ?10:34
Richlvi am ircing happy from the same connection :)10:34
Agent_bobRichlv   firewall ?10:34
Agent_bobloop back    down ?10:34
Richlvhmm. on default bootable kubuntu cd outgoing one ?10:34
Agent_bobRichlv no livecd will not have a firewall by default10:35
curtisppl! could u help me out with something! can any1 suggest a graphical interface for pon/poff and packets sent/recieved for ppp connection!10:35
Agent_bobcheck lo        ifconfig10:35
Richlvloopback is up10:35
lontradanya: i just discovered under the system settings -> advanced tab an option for windows applications you might be interested in checking out10:35
Richlvthough i wonder why would konq fail if it wasd down10:36
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Agent_bobRichlv because  127.0.0.1  would be unreachable       you know, the place you get all your 'warez' from...10:37
azaghalHello. I'm trying to get Geforce4 420 Go 32M working on (K)ubuntu Feisty. At first I installed *9755 drivers, which, of course, weren't appropriate for this one. Then I installed older drivers (that support this card). But when I run modprobe nvidia, it seems to call for the *9755 module, which is kind of weird :/ Any thoughts on this one?10:37
RichlvAgent_bob, well, it is available anyway :)10:38
Richlvand, as i said, it seems to be only konq and thigs relaying on it10:38
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Richlveverything else works fine10:38
Richlvboth resolving and connecting10:38
Agent_bobyes   just answering the Q     and that's about like a cd error...    did you check the disk ?10:39
Richlvno, not yet10:39
Agent_bobRichlv could be.10:39
Richlvbut it's fresh from the kubuntu cover :)10:39
Agent_bobdid they burn it or did you ?10:39
Richlvthey10:39
Richlvthis one i got in the mail10:39
Agent_bobhmmm check it anyway10:40
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Agent_bobnobody's perfect10:40
danyalontra : I'm on kubuntu gnome .. and couldnt find that option :) .. I didnt try installing a windows application yet .. lol tom :) ..10:40
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Agent_bobdistro packagers are people too      errr at least some of them are.10:40
crimsun...10:41
azaghalAny ideas if using Envy is a stupid thing to do?10:41
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Richlvi might try that tomorrow, maybe...10:41
Agent_bobazaghal would be for me.  my nvidia card is not supported10:41
lontradanya: ok ... so your running gnome?  if you run kde it's in the system settings tab ... i've never used it but it looks interesting10:42
Richlvoh well, if anybody gets a good idea, just hilight me with it on the same line ;)10:42
Agent_bobRichlv   real life   !10:42
azaghalHm...10:42
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Nitrociao a tutti, posso fare una domanda?10:50
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Nitroqualcuno pu aiutarmi x piacre?10:51
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K-RyanNitro: language?10:53
kalmanNitro: I believe you are italian10:53
K-Ryan!italian10:54
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:54
kalmanhe is italian indeed10:54
Nitroyes, i'm italian10:55
Nitrocan I speak italian or I have to speak english=10:55
vzduchNitro: see above10:56
Nitrook i speak english.10:56
NitroI need help..I had a problem with the us of RAM10:56
Nitrois ever 900-950 MB/1024mb10:56
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Nitrothe disk cache uses 51%10:57
Nitrocan I create a partition where i put the cache disk?10:57
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vzduchyou should indeed.. that's what swap is for10:58
vzduch!swap10:58
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info10:58
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Nitroi have 3 gb for swap10:58
Nitrobut is ever empty10:58
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Nitro*always10:59
blackneomolo :D10:59
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NickPrestaNitro, if your swap is always empty, then you're usually fine...11:03
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Nitrobut my ram is always full!11:05
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vzduchwell, that's what it's for ;)11:06
NickPrestaNitro, use `free -m` to see what is really going on. You could have a lot of it cached or in the buffer11:06
fartnamecan anyone help me with compiling original programs with the bash makefile language?11:06
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NitroMem:          1011        used:965        free 45          0         21        48011:06
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vzduchfartname: ?11:07
fartnamehow can i include include directories to look through in the makefile?11:08
stdinNitro: that's normal, most of it will be file cache11:08
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fartnameim trying to gcc compile with a makefile, how do i tell gcc to look in certain directories for include files?11:10
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yeniklasorWith which text editor can I edit SQL files? My sql file is over 100 MB and my editors ins't responding.11:11
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jjwjwhy id 3dFighter an eroneos nickna,e?11:12
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SlimeyPeteyeniklasor: I expect vim will deal with a large file quite well11:12
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threeDeeFightercan anyone help me with gcc and makefiles?11:13
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threeDeeFightersomeone help me11:13
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threeDeeFightercan anyone help me with gcc and makefiles?11:14
_daci can not , i/,m new11:14
threeDeeFighterat least theres an answer for me11:15
yeniklasorok11:15
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threeDeeFighterhow do i tell gcc to look in certain directories for include files?11:15
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usamahashimihello everyone!11:16
threeDeeFightertell me hash11:16
_dactry/join #ubuntu11:17
usamahashimihow can i make numlock to turn on at system startup?11:17
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threeDeeFighterfind a boot file and find the function?11:17
SlimeyPeteusamahashimi: check your BIOS11:17
threeDeeFighteri mean "and put the function in there somewhere, the boot file?"11:17
threeDeeFighteri dont wanna check my bios man11:18
usamahashimiSlimeyPete: its ok in bios but nomlock is still turned off when kdm appears11:18
vzduchSlimeyPete: it's not a BIOS function, it can be done somewhere in the init scripts.. but don't ask me where11:18
pauljwusamahashimi: not sure but in my distro it's a service that you need to tell to run at boot.11:18
threeDeeFighterill boo yu foo!11:19
_daccheck your BIOS>>>NOW11:19
usamahashimipauljw: which service?11:19
threeDeeFightergod dude if i learn bash script, im commin after ya, im goin to hell in a nazis handbasket11:19
pauljwnumlock service11:20
armanis_if ftp and irc are working and internet not ? it's "normal"?11:20
usamahashimipauljw: "numlock" is that the name of service?11:20
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pauljwusamahashimi: like i said, i don't use kubuntu but that's what it is in pclos.11:21
_dacif you're not living your life right you're for sure going to outer darkness11:21
threeDeeFightercan anyone help me put include directories in a makefile?11:21
Raystlin_FMusamahashimi: you can turn it on from the keyboard module of kcontrol11:21
threeDeeFighteris it just me or is all of windows in darkness?11:21
SlimeyPetedid you forget to turn your monitor on?11:21
threeDeeFighteryou cant justy steal a deckade from me without expecting me to sue people11:21
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_dachee hee11:22
usamahashimiRaystlin_FM: but that module works after logging in and i want to turn it on at kdm screen11:22
threeDeeFighteri dont wanna buy your crap hole computer idiot products anymore11:22
threeDeeFighterall you do is spank the crap out of me11:22
threeDeeFighterim tired of buying your crap hole products to go to school on and about11:22
threeDeeFighterive had 34 computers go down on me11:22
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
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threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
threeDeeFightercan you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?11:23
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TheCreationistlol if you're going to be an idiot and flood a channel, at least have the common decency to make sense!11:24
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_daclol11:24
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vzduchpauljw: PCLOS is quite nice, but the choice of packages is too darn small..11:30
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kirkehello, I can't send attachments trought Kmail, somebody has any idea why?11:32
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CS5JHutchins: Are you ever coming back?11:33
CS5lol11:33
pauljw_vmvzduch: it is small, but it's stable and i'm not lacking anything from over 6000 packages.11:33
pauljw_vmbut this is off topic here... :)  i like kubuntu just not as much...11:34
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CS5Kirke: How come you haven't upgraded?11:39
CS5Kirke: Just a thought I did not too long ago and was very impressed by the changes and the functionality11:39
CS5lol11:40
CS5he's gone already11:40
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Kr4t05For some reason, I can use APT11:43
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Kr4t05It keeps telling me that something else is using it.11:43
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CS5Update manager open?11:43
Kr4t05CS5: No11:43
CS5Or package manager11:43
Kr4t05CS5: Nope11:43
CS5lol11:43
CS5im done, those are the only to stop me with mine so far11:44
Kr4t05Trust me, I'm smarter than that. ;)11:44
CS5sry11:44
Kr4t05Gah...11:44
Kr4t05Is there anyone that can help me?11:44
Kr4t05I've already tried killall -9 apt|adept|dpkg11:45
Kr4t05Isn't there something else I can do?11:45
Kr4t05Hello?11:45
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Dragnslcr!aptfix11:45
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:45
Kr4t05Thank you.11:46
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LadySerenahow would one go about restoring KDE to the defaults instead of the kubuntu customized crap?11:47
MeMMMHi all, i have a wpa2psk related problem with an rt61 wifi card. The iwconfig always says  "Encryption key:off" When i add the correct aprameters to it. How can i solve this?11:47
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MeMMMLadySerena > apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-default-settings11:48
MeMMMor something like that...11:48
LadySerenaI did that11:48
MeMMMbut be sure, it's sucks up your config at all11:48
Disabledsorry, how can i put in kubuntu on desktop the "My Computer" shorcout?11:48
LadySerenait still has kubuntu custom shit11:48
MeMMMoh, then remove .kde and start a new life:)11:48
MeMMMwhere you has that?11:48
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MeMMMfind for "kubuntu" in packages11:48
vzduch!language | LadySerena11:49
ubotuLadySerena: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:49
DragnslcrDisabled- right click on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to Location11:49
vzduchyour language isn't quite lady-like..11:49
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LadySerenait still has the custom kubuntu toolbars, no desktop icons, and the "Storage Media" icon goes to the wrong place11:49
Daisuke_IdoDisabled: you are aware this isn't windows, right?11:49
Dragnslcrvzduch- come on, this is the Internet. It's not like anyone claiming to be female actually is11:49
Daisuke_Idoso change them to your likeing.11:49
Daisuke_Idowelcome to the internet, where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents < such a classic line11:50
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DragnslcrHehe, I was just thinking that11:50
LadySerenaI'm thinking of just removing all the KDE packages, and installing from source11:51
DragnslcrThe Internet: men will be men, boys will be boys, and girls will be 40-year-old FBI agents11:51
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LadySerenain BSD, KDE wasn't modified, and I liked it that way11:51
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randychecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool (I get that error, how do i get that?)11:54
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ramihi, i'm starting to get tired of the fact that i cant scroll when the mouse is in a flash animation any workaround?11:55
lontrawhat's the kubuntu ksplash package called?11:55
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ramito enable scroll?'11:56
Sanne!info ksplash11:56
ubotuksplash: the KDE splash screen. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.1 (feisty), package size 707 kB, installed size 1340 kB11:56
Sannethat one, lontra?11:56
Daisuke_Idorami: no, it's like that everywhere, that's a flash thing11:58
Daisuke_Idolearn to cope :)11:58
ramiok....11:58
rami:(11:58
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Daisuke_Idothough i agree, it sucks pretty bad11:58
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ramiyou said it!11:59
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DragnslcrFlash intercepts all input12:02
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DragnslcrWhich is a real pain when you press F5 to refresh a page and nothing happens12:03
randywhere can i get clib 2.0?12:03
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randynever mind thats a capital g x_x12:04
vzducho012:05
randylets see if configure works now12:06
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