[12:15] <vzduch> perhaps for Jabber when using a server that is set up according to protocol specs
[12:15] <vzduch> dunno though
[12:15] <vzduch> what definitely works is DCC through IRC
[12:15] <venik> Google talk is Jabber
[12:15] <gabriel__> how can i conect to an remote desktop with linux?
[12:16] <venik> but I need to trade files with ppl who use Yahoo or Google talk
[12:16] <tfreire> gabriel__: RDESKTOP?
[12:16] <vzduch> gabriel__: you can use the Windows Remote Desktop Protocol e.g. w/ krdc
[12:16] <vzduch> yes, rdesktop exists too
[12:17] <tfreire> or nxclient
[12:17] <gabriel__> okkk
[12:17] <vzduch> which would require an NX server on the other side
[12:17] <vzduch> same for VNC
[12:17] <underdog5004> gabriel__, I prefer ssh connections...
[12:17] <underdog5004> but that's not a gui...just a cli
[12:18] <underdog5004> gui == graphical user interface
[12:18] <underdog5004> cli == command line interface
[12:19] <tfreire> vzduch: afaik nxclient can connect to rdp and vnc sessions too
[12:19] <vzduch> no idea
[12:19] <tfreire> bu I have a nxserver here, and it is really fast
[12:20] <tfreire> much better than rdp or vnc
[12:20] <venik> does rdesktop work under KDE, or only Gnome?
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> both, I think
[12:20] <vzduch> I used it on KDE before
[12:20] <odla> yes
[12:21] <SlimeyPete> fairly sure there are KDE frontends to rd
[12:21] <tfreire> I believe krfb has support for the rdp protocol too
[12:21] <vzduch> SlimeyPete: krdc?
[12:21] <tfreire> so you wouldnt need rdesktop. but I have used rdesktop on kde
[12:21] <SlimeyPete> vzduch: that's the one
[12:22] <tfreire> It's just not tightly integrated, on the nevironment...
[12:22] <vzduch> !info krdc
[12:22] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 503 kB, installed size 972 kB
[12:22] <ubuntu> salut
[12:22] <underdog5004> hello
[12:23] <venik> are tehre any pidgin users here?
[12:23] <venik> tehre--> there
[12:23] <odla> !ask
[12:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:23] <odla> venik: what's your question ...
[12:24] <venik> what is the TOP LEVEL thing on the Pidgin buddy list?
[12:24] <sfire> this is how I use rdesktop 'rdesktop -g 1024x768 -d DOMAINNAME -r sound:local -x m -P -p -z -u username x.x.x.x:port'
[12:24] <venik> a buddy is listed there, as well as in the regular list
[12:25] <sfire> those options make it totally rock.. especially the compression and the caching
[12:25] <ubuntu> i must install kubuntu
[12:25] <vzduch> do it
[12:26] <odla> ubuntu: ok ...
[12:27] <rami> one thing that annoys me it that i cant scroll when i have the mouse in a flash animation, can someone explain why?
[12:29] <underdog5004> because the mouse input is captured by flash.
[12:29] <underdog5004> I think
[12:30] <rami> ok because it doesnt work either with the touchpad nor the mouse, and also when i have the mouse in the flash thing writing is disabled, bit boring when you're on youtube:):)
[12:33] <jhutchins> venik: It's just a default category that is sticky at the top of the buddy list.
[12:33] <KaslePro> Can someone please tell me how to install my Broadcom Corporation BC4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller? i am a noobie!
[12:33] <odla> !bcm43xx
[12:33] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[12:33] <jhutchins> sfire: So post something on a web page that suggests those options and explains why they rock.
[12:34] <odla> KaslePro: would that help?  or use ndiswrapper
[12:34] <venik> is tehre a way to remove it?  It is useless and confusin
[12:34] <sfire> jhutchins: I probably should... took hours to get it just right (for my purpose) and working fast enough
[12:35] <jhutchins> venik: Dunno.  Doesn't bother me, I put the "not otherwise categorized" buddies in it, they're the ones I'm most likely to want.
[12:36] <venik> Juhtchis: have you been able to trade files with Yahoo Messenger users (or Google Talk)
[12:37] <venik> Jhutchins: have you been able to trade files with Yahoo Messenger users (or Google Talk)
[12:37] <jhutchins> venik: Haven't tried.
[12:38] <jhutchins> venik: If the group's empty (of displayed users) it goes away, I presume you can delte it.
[12:38] <tfreire> ati just eleased a new binary driver...
[12:39] <venik> Pidgin has put users into it, and I do not see how to remove them.
[12:41] <runlevelten> tfreire: The best thing would be if they stopped the lockups I've been seeing for the last few versions - then after that some decent GL support wouldn't hurt :)
[12:42] <runlevelten> venik: have you tried recent versions of kopete?
[12:43] <venik> no-- file trasfer has been a problem tehre as well
[12:43] <venik> when I tried it
[12:43] <venik> and I thought Kopete did not support Google Talk
[12:45] <Raystlin_FM> venik: you can use kopete to use google talk.  You need to set it up like a jabber client with a few tweaks
[12:46] <venik> but what will I gain over Pidgin?
[12:47] <Raystlin_FM> i haven't used pidgin, so i'm not the best person to answer that question... i should probably try it, but i've have very good success with kopete
[12:47] <venik> Raystlin: can u transfer files with Kopete
[12:47] <odla> venik: yes
[12:48] <overminddl1> Okay, I have a new drive, just partitioned it with cfdisk, now how do I format it as ext3?
[12:48] <venik> I'll try it, then.  Although Pidgin also claims to be able to transfer files, but it does not, at least not here
[12:48] <overminddl1> And you have no idea how stupid I am feeling asking this...
[12:48] <overminddl1> What protocol are you using to try to transfer files in Pidgin?
[12:49] <venik> Yahoo and GoogleTalk (Jabber)
[12:49] <overminddl1> Yahoo I have been able to, GTalk file transfer I have never been able to do on *nix or Windows
[12:49] <vzduch> overminddl1: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdXX
[12:49] <venik> it works just fine on XP
[12:49] <overminddl1> Thank you so much
[12:50] <vzduch> replace device node as appropriate
[12:50] <overminddl1> GTalk file transfer through Jabber has never been available for me on Windows, I am pretty sure I have the newest version
[12:50] <overminddl1> of course
[12:50] <venik> I am trading files on Gtalk with another windows machine with no problems (Windows to Windows)
[12:51] <overminddl1> I have attempted to trade files between Jabber (Windows) and GTalk (he is no doubt running windows), never worked
[12:52] <venik> sometimes network administrators block file trasfer
[12:52] <overminddl1> Not that, Jabber does not support GTalk's protocal yet as it tries to use a different one, Jabber(Pidgin) to Jabber works fine in Pidgin
[12:52] <KaslePro> I'm not able to get my broadcom wireless device to work. Anybody? I'm a newbie, so take it slow
[12:53] <overminddl1> And I am the admin on my network...
[12:53] <overminddl1> Gull freak I hate Wireless devices with Ralink chipsets now, consider yourself lucky
[12:57] <venik> what do u use as the jabber ID in Goggle Talk?
[12:57] <venik> (in Kopete)
[12:59] <overminddl1> venik:  Domain:  gmail.com   Resource:Home    Connect port:5255     Connect server:talk.google.com
[12:59] <overminddl1> Those are the only things I messed with
[12:59] <overminddl1> (and my username of course)
[01:00] <overminddl1> in pidgin anyway, should be the same settings for any jabber client
[01:00] <venik> but the ask for Jabber ID
[01:00] <venik> the--> they
[01:00] <overminddl1> your gtalk username I would guess?
[01:02] <venik> Kopete does not ask for domain or connect server or connect port
[01:02] <overminddl1> I just opened Kopete for the first time and got it working with gtalk
[01:02] <overminddl1> Your user id should be, for example:  OvermindDL1@gmail.com
[01:02] <runlevelten> kopete ftw.
[01:02] <runlevelten> Mind you, I used gaim for the longest time, because it was better.
[01:03] <overminddl1> but?
[01:03] <overminddl1> Oh, make sure to enable SSL, google uses it
[01:03] <overminddl1> gtalk*
[01:03] <runlevelten> Gotta move like ninja between competing K apps and G apps if the other one gets better, that's just how it is :)
[01:03] <puko> Hi guys
[01:03] <overminddl1> Heh, I use pidgin as it works everywhere, consistent interface
[01:03] <puko> Could someone of you help me with a problem?
[01:03] <overminddl1> Greetings
[01:04] <runlevelten> A jabber ID is user@server
[01:04] <puko> It's about GRUB, there's an error during the Kubuntu installation
[01:04] <runlevelten> !ask | puko
[01:04] <ubotu> puko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:04] <overminddl1> and the gtalk part of the @server will be @gmail.com
[01:04] <venik> where do I tell Kopete what my nickname will be using the Jabber protocol?
[01:04] <overminddl1> the part before the @server part?
[01:05] <puko> Uhm, so any1 could help me with it?
[01:06] <puko> There's an error: Couldn't install GRUB on hd0 :(
[01:06] <overminddl1> Outside of my realm of knowledge (mostly)...
[01:06] <overminddl1> what filesystem is hd0?
[01:06] <puko> I tried already many different things, but nothing seems to help
[01:06] <runlevelten> weird, I write the oddest scripts when I'm drunk.
[01:07] <overminddl1> er, not filesystem, was it a windows drive before?
[01:07] <puko> well, I got 3 partitions, 1st one is formatted to ext3
[01:07] <overminddl1> make sure it is a static, not dynamic drive?
[01:07] <puko> yes
[01:07] <overminddl1> ah, not that then
[01:07] <overminddl1> outside of my knowledge in that case
[01:07] <runlevelten> I've found one here that looks like it's supposed to feed alerts from kopete into enemy territory/tc:E
[01:07] <puko> too bad :(
[01:08] <runlevelten> so I can see them in-game... except iirc kopete popups just appear over the game window anyway.
[01:08] <puko> It seems like he can't see the drive or smth
[01:10] <overminddl1> runlevelten: redundency, gotta love it
[01:11] <replman> Hi! I'm trying to install kubuntu on my new system, but the live-system doesn't find my hdd. I have a Core2Duo, MSI P35 Neo Board and an ide-hdd. Any ideas?
[01:12] <runlevelten> overminddl1: heh yeah. It's the randomness of the stuff I write that gets me.
[01:13] <runlevelten> not so much work stuff, stuff like SudokuGrid.
[01:13] <runlevelten> I mean I don't even bloody like Sudoku!
[01:13] <runlevelten> heh
[01:18] <bauer> evolution ? how do i export evolution so i can import it on my grand new ubuntu :-)
[01:19] <venik> News flash: File transfer (yahoo protocol) seems to work with Kopete
[01:19] <venik> where do the files go?
[01:19] <sparr> my firefox closes at random when it loses focus.  help?
[01:20] <venik> answer: to the Home folder
[01:23] <redha> hello, where are the beryl error logs?
[01:23] <runlevelten> sparr, you mean it crashes?
[01:23] <sparr> runlevelten: possibly, but the trigger seems very un-crash-like
[01:24] <runlevelten> when you say loses focus, do you mean it crashes immediately when you click another window, or that it disappears when you minimise it?
[01:24] <lontra> kmilo is the onscreen LCD volume display right?
[01:40] <tomasso> hello
[01:40] <tomasso> :)
[01:56] <robert__> hey
[01:57] <Zeke> yo
[01:57] <robert__> anyone know what's up with flash on kubuntu/ubuntu? it used to work perfectly after installing it from the repos, but now it doesn't. sites complain about me not having the latest version.
[01:57] <Zeke> what's the wget comand for reinstalling nvidia drivers?
[01:58] <Zeke> the one that removes the old xorg-conf and adds the new drivers
[01:59] <robert__> anyone got a clue about flash?
[01:59] <stoned> you know
[01:59] <stoned> I like kubuntu much better than ubuntu
[01:59] <stoned> and I also like #kubuntu better than #ubuntu
[01:59] <robert__> they're both good imo
[02:00] <stoned> I loath gtk+/2
[02:00] <robert__> i think kde is more powerful, but ubuntu has a more elegant interface
[02:00] <Zeke> funny...I tended to get more resposes out of #ubuntu than #kubuntu
[02:00] <stoned> absolutely hate it
[02:00] <thoreauputic> stoned: #ubuntu suffers from the fate of all large and popular channels
[02:00] <stoned> I dislike gnome dialog design, gui, structure
[02:00] <stoned> thoreauputic: well, I also use debian, and #debian is the best imo
[02:00] <robert__> that's your right to dislike it
[02:00] <stoned> of course :)
[02:00] <robert__> something for everyone
[02:01] <thoreauputic> stoned: #debian is more polite than it used to be a few years ago when I was a regular there ;)
[02:01] <intelikey> this lag is killing me.   anyone got help for a dialup connection ?
[02:01] <stoned> but I am not disliking for no reason at all.  My reasons, with which people do not have to agree to, are quite valid
[02:01] <stoned> at least to me
[02:01] <stoned> anyway, kubuntu is nice
[02:02] <robert__> intelikey.... not for konversation, but you can speed up your browser a little with firefox setting http pipelining to more or less double the requests it makes now.
[02:02] <stoned> I don't yet know how it is structured and laid out but I am finding my way
[02:02] <stoned> I installed it, and got rid of it, a few times.  Now I'm back on it and decided its not the distro that pisses me off
[02:03] <robert__> i've been a kde user off and on since 98
[02:03] <stoned> its the #ubuntu that pissed me off and I always just said fsck it I hate ubuntu
[02:03] <stoned> but I've been using linux since 94, and debian since 97
[02:03] <robert__> i switch between kde and gnome
[02:03] <intelikey> robert__ i don't use konversation   bx    and i don't use ff   elinks   both of which should improve dialup speed but i'm still lagging like 30seconds
[02:03] <stoned> I've tried them all, but I would have to say that honestly I like Qt better than Gtk2
[02:03] <robert__> is your connection timing out or just lagging?
[02:03] <stoned> its not just the toolkit, its the dialog design, and overall user experience
[02:04] <stoned> in kde everything works together
[02:04] <stoned> gnome feels like someone just hacked together a whole buncha crap
[02:04] <robert__> the kde gui is a lot rougher around the edges than gnome is, but that should change in 4.0
[02:04] <stoned> I like usability, eye candy is 2nd to me
[02:04] <BlindSIde> stoned: i would say the same for kde
[02:04] <stoned> for example, with gnome, I just siimply cannot use it.  With some hacking, I can use xfce, but definitely not kde
[02:05] <asdfdsf> Much more eye candy in KDE, but you have to configure it for yourself.
[02:05] <ArtiFACT> do we know of a place for good but cheap IDE ribbons?  I prefer the round cable type.
[02:05] <asdfdsf> If you want to change how gnome looks and works, tough.
[02:05] <stoned> I like no panels or taskbars, I set rightclick on desktop to do app menu for kde, and left click to windowlist menu.  Xfce can do this too, so I can use it, but definitely not gnome
[02:05] <robert__> xfce is broken terribly. if you like simple and elegant, try enlightenment or windowmaker
[02:05] <stoned> asdfdsf: I don't  :)
[02:06] <robert__> stoned, then use fluxbox or blackbox with no taskbar installed
[02:06] <stoned> robert__:  but eyecandy matters too
[02:06] <stoned> I like kde because it is very themeable
[02:06] <asdfdsf> fluxbox is excellent
[02:06] <stoned> which is a relative statement
[02:06] <asdfdsf> fully supportive of running kde apps too
[02:06] <stoned> it is not excellent for me :)
[02:06] <robert__> stoned... go look at some of the stuff you can do in enlightenment... better looking than any other UI out there imo
[02:07] <intelikey> can someone tell me the modules for a     intel 82557/8/9 ethernet prow 100 ?
[02:07] <stoned> robert__: first time I used englightenmend was in 1998 on redhat 6.2.  It was the default wm in there I think, at least the cd I got
[02:07] <robert__> lot has changed since then
[02:07] <asdfdsf> :|
[02:07] <stoned> robert__: I fell in love.  However I am not in love with it anymore.
[02:07] <stoned> I like kde, just can't get away from it
[02:08] <robert__> kde is too bloated imo
[02:08] <stoned> kde has me wrapped around her finger like a little hussy
[02:08] <asdfdsf> robert__: Yu must really hate gnome then
[02:08] <robert__> they need to whittle it down to windowmaker level of stuff
[02:08] <stoned> kde is not bloated.
[02:08] <stoned> how is kde bloated, please tell me
[02:08] <robert__> kde is bloated. even some of the devs think so
[02:08] <asdfdsf> No they don't. Turning your changelog on its head working back to 0.1 is for gnome.
[02:09] <asdfdsf> No other software works like that.
[02:09] <stoned> its a desktop environment, and you're asking it to be as slim as a window manager, yet still be a desktop environment.  Do you see the problem here?
[02:09] <robert__> there has to be a limit on how much crap one should release out of the box
[02:09] <purpleposeidon> My old kernel died.... :/
[02:09] <stoned> then in this regard I would have to say ubuntu is pure bloatware itself
[02:09] <stoned> as well as kubuntu
[02:09] <stoned> debian ftw?
[02:09] <stoned> anyone
[02:09] <purpleposeidon> and broke everything, mouse, internet....
[02:10] <stoned> see your logic?
[02:10] <intelikey> can someone tell me the modules for a     intel 82557/8/9 ethernet prow 100 ?        i can't even google for it with this connection so slow ???
[02:10] <asdfdsf> Simplicity over all started out as a set of excuses for lazy gnome developers. It has since become so entrenched that even its poor deprived users believe it, and it's spreading like a disease to other projects.
[02:10] <robert__> in all honesty, if i could get freebsd running on this laptop, i'd be there running fluxbox, but there are no freebsd drivers for my wi-fi card
[02:10] <stoned> asdfdsf: well said
[02:10] <purpleposeidon> so using an old one saved me
[02:10] <Darkrift> i tried running a game, and it changed my screen res, but im unable to change it back
[02:11] <Darkrift> anyone know how i do this?
[02:11] <stoned> try ctrl+alt++/i
[02:11] <Darkrift> i tried the slider in the monitor config, and it said it changed it, but its still at the same res
[02:11] <asdfdsf> Darkrift: alt+f2 and type "krandrtray"
[02:11] <Darkrift> there we go
[02:11] <Darkrift> ty mucho
[02:11] <robert__> anyone know why flash is weird out of the box now with kubuntu/ubuntu. it just used to work. now all sites complain about the wrong version
[02:12] <robert__> not wrong, but outdated
[02:12] <asdfdsf> np
[02:12] <stoned> robert__: just install the latest flash in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[02:12] <stoned> it will be used
[02:13] <stoned> remove other flash packages first though
[02:13] <robert__> it goes there by default, but the browser is not seeing it, not in kubuntu or ubuntu
[02:13] <stoned> *think*
[02:13] <stoned> hmm
[02:13] <robert__> i even forced konq to reload plugins... no joy...reboot...no joy
[02:14] <stoned> there is no need to reboot a linux system unless you want to load a new kernel
[02:14] <stoned> this isn't windows.
[02:14] <robert__> i'm aware of that
[02:14] <robert__> but i'm getting tired of nothing working
[02:14] <stoned> rebooting still won't do anything.
[02:14] <stoned> robert__: welcome to linux
[02:14] <robert__> i've had success with rebooting in the past when nothing else works
[02:15] <stoned> robert__: nothing just works, despite all the advertisements
[02:15] <stoned> robert__: make it work yourself
[02:15] <robert__> stoned... like is said, i;d be on freebsd or openbsd of my wi-fi card was supported
[02:15] <intelikey> can someone tell me the modules for a     intel 82557/8/9 ethernet prow 100 ?        i can't even google for it with this connection so slow ???
[02:16] <robert__> linux is great, but i prefer the stability of BSD and the fact that everything gets updated at the same time as an OS whole.... less breakage of packages and dependencies
[02:17] <stoned> openbsd is a compromise
[02:17] <stoned> freebsd is meh
[02:17] <stoned> debian > *
[02:17] <asdfdsf> smoe bsd is nice. some bsd developers are not.
[02:17] <robert__> compromise?
[02:17] <spawn57> openbsd is focused on security
[02:17] <stoned> it all depends on your needs and wants
[02:18] <asdfdsf> debian? Again... heh
[02:18] <spawn57> I woouldn't call that a comprimise
[02:18] <stoned> security is a compromise between privacy and usability
[02:18] <stoned> more secure == less usable
[02:18] <asdfdsf> I like hardware support, and lots of it.
[02:18] <stoned> this is inherent in security programming
[02:18] <robert__> i find openbsd very usable. used it for years, but my card is not supported
[02:18] <stoned> hence, not usable/
[02:18] <stoned> .
[02:18] <spawn57> if you're thinking of openbsd as a desktop, then you're barking up the wrong tree
[02:19] <stoned> spawn57: well put, which is what I'm trying to say
[02:19] <runlevelten> GNU/Linux + KDE is the desktop for me.
[02:19] <stoned> GNU/Hurd is also nice, but not much hw support
[02:19] <runlevelten> Nothing else touches it for a GUI desktop.
[02:19] <stoned> stable as a rock for me though
[02:19] <Darkrift> whats the easiest way to upgrade wine?
[02:19] <spawn57> stoned: hehe
[02:19] <robert__> not true... i've worked for some of the best security companies out there, and a lot of the engineers used obsd as a desktop with no problems
[02:19] <stoned> Darkrift: to the packages in ubuntu? sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[02:20] <stoned> Darkrift: for latest version, you must build it from source
[02:20] <Darkrift> i think i have the latest from there
[02:20] <Darkrift> i c
[02:20] <runlevelten> there are binary packages linked from winehq which are about 8 releases ahead of the repos mind you.
[02:21] <stoned> Darkrift: sudo aptitude install module-assistant build-essential && sudo m-a prepare && sudo apt-get build-dep wine && wget http://winesourcehere.tarball
[02:21] <runlevelten> ie: it ain't git, but it's current release
[02:21] <spawn57> robert__: II see what you mean, but I don't think it'll be up to date enough or easy for a casual user though
[02:21] <stoned> Darkrift: download the wine source, unpack it, ./configure && make && sudo make install
[02:21] <robert__> not for casual users, no
[02:21] <robert__> i agree with u
[02:22] <stoned> I agree with y
[02:22] <runlevelten> Meh, you can have the roughly same desktop on your linux and bsd systems.
[02:22] <robert__> but for geeks with time and who enjoy that kind of thing, there's nothing better
[02:22] <spawn57> Darkrift: easiest way is to actually add the repository to your sources.list, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layla
[02:22] <spawn57> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[02:22] <Darkrift> i love this ****ing channel
[02:23] <Darkrift> **** = frig :)
[02:23] <stoned> spawn57: you can build the bleeding edge wine with my method or cvs/svn whatevet uses, or you can rely on pre compiled binaries which might be weeks/months old
[02:23] <runlevelten> xD
[02:23] <spawn57> weeks isn't too bad, is it.
[02:23] <stoned> for some people
[02:23] <nassim> hi
[02:23] <stoned> hi
[02:23] <spawn57> yah
[02:23] <ardchoille> hi
[02:24] <spawn57> ohh crap I better get to work
[02:24] <runlevelten> git
[02:24] <runlevelten> ;)
[02:24] <stoned> guitar institute of technology?
[02:25] <stoned> !git
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about git - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <spawn57> actually
[02:25] <spawn57> git institute of technology
[02:25] <runlevelten> the vcs in question :)
[02:25] <spawn57> gotta make it recursive
[02:25] <nassim> i had installed my nvidia gforcr fx 5200,i can see the splash screen <NVIDIA> but
[02:25] <felix> i need help! how can i change the resolution of my display?
[02:25] <ardchoille> runlevelten: git = get in southern US>
[02:25] <ardchoille> ?
[02:25] <ardchoille> dubya git
[02:25] <stoned> git == get out of here
[02:26] <stoned> or run along
[02:26] <felix> my video card is a nv geforce
[02:26] <stoned> or away with you little packet
[02:26] <nassim> but when i start beryl . i got this messages:
[02:26] <stoned> my tiny little cute packet
[02:26] <runlevelten> !vcs
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <stoned> I will send my packet to the internet
[02:26] <stoned> it will have a blast.  I hope my packet comes back home tom e
[02:26] <Darkrift> w00t
[02:26] <Darkrift> you guys rock
[02:26] <nassim> **************************************************************
[02:26] <stoned> Darkrift: thank you
[02:26] <runlevelten> stoned: I'm sorry, you've used the wrong sort of string on this packet.
[02:26] <nassim> * Beryl system compatiblity check                            *
[02:26] <nassim> **************************************************************
[02:27] <Darkrift> too bad other distro's didnt have channels like this
[02:27] <runlevelten> take it back and try again
[02:27] <nassim> Detected xserver                                : NVIDIA
[02:27] <stoned> nassim: stop posting
[02:27] <nassim> Checking Display :0 ...
[02:27] <Darkrift> this channel is the only reason ive been able to completely rid myself of windows
[02:27] <nassim> Checking for XComposite extension               : passed (v0.3)
[02:27] <stoned> nassim: you should ask in #beryl also
[02:27] <nassim> Checking for XDamage extension                  : passed
[02:27] <runlevelten> !pastebin
[02:27] <nassim> Checking for RandR extension                    : passed
[02:27] <nassim> Checking for XSync extension                    : passed
[02:27] <nassim> Checking Screen 0 ...
[02:27] <nassim> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:27] <nassim> Root visual is not a GL visual
[02:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:27] <ardchoille> !paste | nassim
[02:27] <ubotu> nassim: please see above
[02:27] <nassim> ok
[02:27] <spawn57> Darkrift: =D
[02:27] <stoned> nassim: and don't run your system as root
[02:27] <stoned> ffs
[02:27] <stoned> final fantasy six
[02:27] <stoned> i mean
[02:28] <stoned> :D
[02:28] <spawn57> hmm i gotta try playing that
[02:28] <spawn57> on my ds
[02:28] <stoned> ubotu: hi
[02:28] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:28] <dwidmann> I've been meaning to play six too ... just haven't found the time :\
[02:28] <stoned> ubotu: how old are you?
[02:28] <stoned> a dumb bot
[02:28] <nassim> so ? what can i do ?
[02:28] <ardchoille> !bot | stoned
[02:28] <ubotu> stoned: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:28] <runlevelten> never any time for games these days :(
[02:28] <felix> ubotu: can you help me change the resolution of my display?
[02:28] <ardchoille> !fixres | felix
[02:28] <ubotu> felix: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:29] <stoned> ardchoille: I am aware of that.  I'm being goofy
[02:29] <spawn57> felix: ubotu is a bod
[02:29] <spawn57> bot
[02:29] <nassim> i have tried many ways
[02:29] <felix> ubotu: thanks!
[02:29] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:29] <draik> !botsnack
[02:29] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:29] <ardchoille> stoned: Ah, ok. it was my day to be goofy yesterday
[02:29] <stoned> ardchoille: in fact, I am acting like a two year old.
[02:29] <draik> Hello ardchoille
[02:29] <runlevelten> man these skeeto bites are getting big. I look like I've been shot.
[02:29] <stoned> as if two year olds could use irc.
[02:30] <ardchoille> Hi draik
[02:30] <nassim> how can i reset my x server  to initial state ?
[02:30] <stoned> nassim: initial state?
[02:30] <nassim> yes
[02:30] <felix> spawn57: sorry. i don't know. newbie here.
[02:30] <draik> nassim: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:30] <ardchoille> nassim: Did you make a backup before editing xorg.conf?
[02:30] <dwidmann> stoned: don't say something like that or someone somewherre might teach a two year old to do it.
[02:30] <nassim> no
[02:30] <dwidmann> stoned: just for spite, of course.
[02:30] <nassim> :p
[02:30] <stoned> nassim: follow what the top comments in /etc/X11/xorg.conf says if you edited your file by hand.  if not, then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:31] <runlevelten> my two-year-old restarted X the other day after her mum locked it.
[02:31] <ardchoille> nassim: See what draik posted, that should help you
[02:31] <nassim> thanx draik
[02:31] <runlevelten> I kid you not
[02:31] <draik> YW nassim
[02:31] <nassim> another question
[02:31] <runlevelten> accidentally, of course, but it was very funny because it _looked_ intentional
[02:31] <stoned> dwidmann: no, ardchoille accused me of acting like a two yar old and refused to help me, and said this in a very very mean way.  I was being sarcastic.
[02:31] <nassim> how to change my keyboard to azerty instead of qwerty ?
[02:32] <dwidmann> stoned: all good and well. I can't get thru my days without a heavy dose of sarcasmn either :)
[02:32] <runlevelten> get a screwdriver, and swap q with a and w with z xD
[02:32] <stoned> dwidmann: :)
[02:32] <ardchoille> runlevelten: lol
[02:35] <stoned> dwidmann: what is the travesty with people?  It seems as if everyone is so very eager to pass judgement on others, by observing maybe as little as 2-3 lines they say on irc.
[02:36] <stoned> "Yeh, you said 2 lines, but by what you said, I can tell your kind of people" is what comes across from these judgement passers.  anyway, I'm gonna go get a newer version of ktorrent this one seems to constantly want to crash
[02:37] <Darkrift> anyone here play WOW ?
[02:38] <stoned> Darkrift: the last warcraft I played was WC2 on windows 95
[02:38] <Darkrift> heh
[02:38] <Darkrift> i played 1 2 and 3
[02:38] <Darkrift> friend is wanting me to try wow on a private server
[02:38] <stoned> i didn't care much for 3
[02:38] <Darkrift> finally got it installed in wine (2 days effort)
[02:38] <stoned> i disliked diablo, but loved diablo 2
[02:38] <Darkrift> heh
[02:38] <stoned> simle mindless hack n slash
[02:38] <Darkrift> i was a diablo2 god
[02:39] <stoned> especially with some mods from d2mods.com
[02:39] <marko_> does someone know how can i check how many free space do i have on a hard drive
[02:39] <marko_> ?
[02:39] <stoned> that game in single player or private realm is friggin awesome
[02:39] <Darkrift> on christmas eve one year, i gave away 20 thousand soj's to n00bs
[02:39] <stoned> marko_: df -h
[02:39] <stoned> marko_: kdf
[02:39] <stoned> marko_: man df
[02:39] <Darkrift> my characters name was SantaClaws (assasin)
[02:39] <Darkrift> hehe
[02:39] <Darkrift> that made me known all across bnet
[02:40] <Darkrift> quick q, how do i make beryl not autoload anymore
[02:40] <stoned> Darkrift: I was called VS-TheGrim
[02:40] <Darkrift> i decided my lappy runs better without it
[02:40] <marko_> thanks
[02:40] <stoned> we had a group named after texan black/death metal band called Vesperian Sorrow
[02:40] <stoned> VS
[02:40] <Darkrift> I started a clan, and after 2 months, we had 350 members
[02:41] <stoned> there were a lot of VS members then as soon as I discovered mods I dropped bnet
[02:41] <stoned> never went back again
[02:41] <stoned> Darkrift: we concentrated on the quality of players, not quantity
[02:41] <stoned> and mostly it was family and friends
[02:41] <Darkrift> i used to dupe items, so i was able to give items to players who helped the clan and didnt just screw around, and that made users more loyal and happier
[02:41] <stoned> and thier friends etc.
[02:41] <Darkrift> my mom, gf, sister and brother used to play with me :)
[02:41] <stoned> those things turn me off
[02:41] <Darkrift> gf is now wife
[02:41] <Darkrift> lol
[02:42] <stoned> is she hot?
[02:42] <Darkrift> when she wants to be
[02:42] <stoned> or did you HAVE to marry her?
[02:42] <Darkrift> lol
[02:42] <Darkrift> no
[02:42] <stoned> did you feel obligated to marry her or did you really actually want to?
[02:42] <Darkrift> no shotgun wedding
[02:43] <stoned> I'm just saying.  You can lie to whoever you want, but you can't lie to yourself.  If this isn't for you, get out right now while you still can.
[02:43] <stoned> I've been with my woman for 21 years
[02:44] <stoned> and I'm still in love with her just like the first time I saw her, its pretty sentimental and lovey duvvy stuff
[02:44] <stoned> ;D
[02:44] <stoned> Darkrift: so anyway, if you still play diablo, check out d2mods.com
[02:45] <ardchoille> !ot
[02:45] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:47] <rrbiz> !kernel
[02:47] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:52] <stoned> is there a network activity monitor for kicker?
[02:53] <chaotic> is there anything like daemontools not counting the mount command
[02:53] <chaotic> for linux
[02:53] <stoned> chaotic: for copy protection stuff huh
[02:53] <stoned> no
[02:54] <stoned> chaotic: if you pay, you can have that stuff in Cedega
[02:54] <chaotic> .ccd  .nrg.bin .cue  mounting
[02:54] <stoned> afaik, Cedega emulates almost all game copy protection methods
[02:54] <stoned> chaotic: for that you will have to get conversion tools
[02:54] <chaotic> i haerd nero linux
[02:54] <stoned> bin > iso ccd > iso etc. etc.
[02:55] <stoned> I have never heard of anything of the sort
[02:55] <stoned> there is a cdemu
[02:55] <stoned> I forget what exactly it supports
[02:55] <stoned> probably just bin/cue
[02:55] <runlevelten> stamps out mono from this machine
[02:56] <runlevelten> Begone, wooden horse of Microsoft!
[02:56] <replman> Hi!
[02:57] <runlevelten> hello.
[02:57] <evilmm> mmm gimp
[02:57] <replman> can anybody help me getting kubuntu installed on my computer? THe problem is, that the live-system does not recognise my IDE-Drive.
[02:58] <amrush> does anyone know if ubuntu GTK+already installed ?
[03:00] <amrush> hello .. Does anyone know if GTK+ is already installed in Ubuntu ?
[03:07] <knapp> What channel do I need to be in for help w/ ipod, video, thinliquidfilm, ffmpeg, etc....
[03:13] <labroid> Amarok help needed:  fresh install of Feisty, Amarok hangs on start.  Saw similar notes in FAQs but fixes there don't help.
[03:15] <labroid> hello?
[03:18] <labroid> Hmmm... Can't tell if this channel is dead or I just can't see people's input.  Can someone respond, please?
[03:18] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:18] <labroid> thank you!
[03:18] <thoreauputic> labroid: it comes and goes...
[03:19] <labroid> thor:  I think I've been here before and it was hopping.  I expected somethign with 200 users on...
[03:19] <labroid> oh, well.  I guess another night.  Thanks!
[03:20] <thoreauputic> labroid: You weren't very specific about your issue - have you tried installing libxine-extracodecs ?
[03:21] <labroid> thor:  no.  Amarok hangs right out of the box on a new load.  I don't have a sound card installed, but just wanted to run amarok for the podcast downloads. I'm wondering if no sound capability is hanging it...
[03:21] <thoreauputic> ah - could be
[03:21] <thoreauputic> tried running it from a terminal to see any error messages?
[03:21] <labroid> good idea; I'll try that.
[03:22] <thoreauputic> first thing to try , always :)
[03:22] <thoreauputic> one of the nice things about linux is the diagnostic capabilities :)
[03:22] <chaotic> guys theres an update to fin repositories
[03:23] <chaotic> firefox
[03:23] <chaotic> mt
[03:23] <chaotic> not  sure   if its in the ubuntu or the multiverse
[03:23] <thoreauputic> firefox is in main
[03:23] <chaotic> ah ok
[03:24] <labroid> well, it gives me errors about invalid input devices, then after a while says "[Loader]  Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong?"  Amusing.
[03:25] <labroid> I've left it to run in this state for some time (assuming it was building a media library or something) and it never un-hangs --even hours later
[03:25] <knapp> I need some help with thinliquidfilm. It converts the video fine, but when I transfer it to my ipod, the video doesn't play, but the audio does.
[03:27] <intelikey> what driver does this need  ?   http://intelikey.pastebin.us/38329
[03:28] <Biovore> intelikey: thats in the kernel..
[03:28] <Biovore> its nick
[03:28] <Biovore> (nic)
[03:28] <Biovore> I think its call 8139.o
[03:28] <intelikey> Biovore what driver does it need ?
[03:28] <intelikey> oh 8139   looking
[03:29] <intelikey> have two matches  8139cp   8139too
[03:29] <maturano> hi all!
[03:29] <maturano> any speak spanish here?
[03:30] <intelikey> !es | maturano
[03:30] <ubotu> maturano: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:30] <maturano> je :-) just asking....
[03:33] <intelikey> hmmm still can't ping 192.168.0.2 from 192.168.0.1   crossover cable   with ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.? up   on both ends,     any clue-by-four ?
[03:33] <Vistasucks> okay i so need some help
[03:34] <damien__> Hey guys how can add somehting to my /etc/apt/sources ?
[03:34] <intelikey> manual edit + apt-get update
[03:34] <Vistasucks> do an sudo vi /etc.......
[03:35] <damien__> Ty :)
[03:35] <intelikey> !repos | damien__
[03:35] <ubotu> damien__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:36] <Vistasucks> I have an ati card in my laptop and when i run Desktop Effects i get this "The Composite extension is not available"
[03:36] <Vistasucks> any thoughts ?
[03:36] <intelikey> hmmm still can't ping 192.168.0.2 from 192.168.0.1   crossover cable   with ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.? up   on both ends,     any clue-by-four ?
[03:36] <intelikey> !ati | Vistasucks
[03:36] <ubotu> Vistasucks: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:36] <chaotic> how do i install something with .run files
[03:37] <Vistasucks> thanks
[03:37] <chaotic> kate just keeps coming up
[03:37] <martoya> chaotic: chmod +x thefile.run && ./thefile.run
[03:38] <chaotic> chaotic: chmod +x name.run && ./name.run
[03:39] <chaotic> like that
[03:39] <thunderbolt> Hmmm, the development version of the GIMP is having brush redrawing issues....
[03:44] <darkaos> hola
[03:44] <ses59_> i am trying to get a new modem to work on kubuntu and now understand why I can not make it work
[03:45] <ses59_> I need help on making an install file
[03:45] <darkaos> hi there
[03:45] <martoya> !es darkaos
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es darkaos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <darkaos> ???
[03:45] <ses59_> the modem drivers are at www.camnix.com/drivers
[03:46] <darkaos> you are triying to use a internal or external modem?
[03:46] <ses59_> it has serval listed and i need to make an install file from source code
[03:46] <ses59_> i need to know how to make the file
[03:47] <darkaos> mmmm
[03:47] <ses59_> i used tar and -zvf and made the folder but it does not list an install file
[03:47] <darkaos> you tried ./config...??
[03:47] <ses59_> i am missing something in the .make setup
[03:47] <raylu> you mean ./configure?
[03:48] <ses59_> internal
[03:48] <raylu> ses59_: paste the results of ./configure
[03:48] <raylu> what are you trying to compile anyway?
[03:48] <ses59_> yes it might be ./config
[03:49] <raylu> it's not ./config =\
[03:49] <darkaos> yea configure
[03:49] <ses59_> a modem driver
[03:49] <darkaos> ./configure
[03:49] <darkaos> make
[03:49] <darkaos> make install
[03:50] <raylu> (i think he knows the commands, darkaos)
[03:50] <ses59_> but do i use slmdm 2.8.1 2.8.2 2.8.3  or 2.7.14
[03:50] <raylu> generally...unless otherwise specified, you should go with the latest
[03:51] <ses59_> ok
[03:51] <ses59_> 2.8.3
[03:53] <darkaos> ok
[03:53] <darkaos> im stut up
[03:56] <ses59_> ok just did the tar -zxvf and have a new folder on desktop and have cd into that folder is the next command ./configure
[03:57] <ExplicitE> hi every body
[03:58] <ses59_> i do not know the commands for make install
[03:58] <raylu> !hi
[03:58] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:58] <ExplicitE> oOo TQ
[03:58] <raylu> ses59_, did configure run successfully?
[03:58] <ExplicitE> (^-^)
[03:58] <ses59_> hello explicite
[03:58] <ExplicitE> hi ses59
[03:58] <ses59_> i have not run configure yet will do that now
[03:59] <lontra> what's the kde package for the science/math programs?
[03:59] <ExplicitE> i got a copy of ubuntu 6.06 LTS ^^
[03:59] <raylu> i see
[03:59] <raylu> lontra, packages are specific programs. you mean repository?
[03:59] <ExplicitE> btw where i can get decoder so i can play VCD and DVD file
[03:59] <raylu> brb
[04:00] <ses59_> i tried sudo ./configure and get error command not found
[04:01] <BluesKaj> !codecs |  ExplicitE
[04:01] <ubotu> ExplicitE: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:01] <ExplicitE> TQ
[04:01] <chaotic> chaotic@chaotic-desktop:~/Desktop$ chaotic: chmod +x BNR2beta-0.14.7.run && ./BNR2beta-0.14.7.run
[04:01] <chaotic> bash: chaotic:: command not found
[04:01] <chaotic> what should i do
[04:01] <BluesKaj> and
[04:02] <BluesKaj> !libdvdcss2 | ExplicitE
[04:02] <ubotu> ExplicitE: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:02] <stoned> how do I make the 'windows' key popup kde menu?
[04:02] <lontra> huh?  i am talking the math, teaching, science programs installed by default in a vanilla kde ...
[04:03] <CU> can some one tell me why im getting "The Composite extension is not available" when i run  Desktop Effects
[04:04] <chaotic> how do i install .run files
[04:05] <ses59_> thank you ubotu i wish i had found this site 3 weeks ago and saved me a lot of trouble
[04:05] <underdog5004> chaotic, try just doing this in a terminal: sh filename.run
[04:05] <ses59_> i am now going to the computer and try scanmodem
[04:07] <ses59_> have a nice evening and i have bookmarked this site on my pbwiki page
[04:10] <chaotic> wow thats amazingg
[04:10] <chaotic> ithe binary newsreader has an installer it looks identical to windows in staller
[04:12] <chaotic> even creates a desktop icon for u
[04:20] <converter> hali
[04:36] <keisangi> someone could help me to install support for this printer :  sharp mx2300fg ?
[04:37] <keisangi> i see this printer listed in supported device on kde printer wizard
[04:37] <keisangi> when i install it and try to print something, i hear the printer doing stuffs.. so there's a response, but nothing come out ?
[04:46] <chaotic> if u have a windows partition  mounted
[04:47] <chaotic> can u load wmplayer  with wine
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> chaotic, ive never had any luck with that
[04:52] <underdog5004> chaotic, ...why would you want to?
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> chaotic, at least with the new ones, it does some kind of wga check which of course wine fails
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> DasKreech, live cd, i see :)
[04:58] <chaotic> it doesnt checkkkk  wga every time u load  it
[04:58] <chaotic> plus   i have 10 on it
[04:59] <chaotic> i   just want something a can have a library of and alsa    watch audio  and video within
[04:59] <DasKreech> hitmanWilly: gutsy FTW
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> chaotic, why not just amarok?
[05:19] <trakinas> has anyone here ever used k9copy?
[05:19] <willis_> not tried that yet.
[05:19] <willis_> i need to some day.
[05:20] <trakinas> i get an error i shouldnt.
[05:25] <brad> could someone possibly help me set up my wireless card?
[05:25] <brad> I have an Asus A8V-E motherboard with onboard wireless, I can get the wireless build with a websearch in a sec
[05:25] <brad> or I'm sure someone knows the command ^_^
[05:25] <jono> whats a good program on linux to replace a program such as Ares that does both p2p searching and Torrents?
[05:26] <brad> also, I've decided to buy the book Ubuntu for the Non-Geek, so I will in the future be less clueless on IRC channels hopefully
[05:26] <willis_> ktorrent does p2p and has search features.
[05:28] <jono> i'm on a network that limits my torrent traffic
[05:28] <willis_> theres the protocall encryption feature. :) that may help
[05:29] <jono> hrmmmm
[05:30] <jono> all yopu have to do is check the box for it?
[05:32] <willis_> Ktorrent has a check box for 'protocal encryption' and only allow encrypted connectons.
[05:32] <jono> what program would you recommend to download single music tracks?
[05:32] <klobster> why does system settings >> system services move so slow?
[05:33] <klobster> jono: apple music store?
[05:33] <vitaly> Holo
[05:34] <jono> klobster: Thanks...but i don't support apple
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> klobster, the apple music store won't work on nix due to the 'fairplay' DRM scheme
[05:36] <willis_> legalmp3.com :)
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> emusic myself
[05:36] <trakinas> soulseek myself
[05:36] <jono> all mp3 downloads are legal for me...i live in Canada :)
[05:36] <trakinas> then local tore. =D
[05:36] <willis_> I just get out the large box of cd's ive gotten.. and rip a few more to my hd.
[05:37] <jono> and i'm a poor student
[05:37] <klobster> hitmanwilly: thats changing
[05:37] <trakinas> jono: same!
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> klobster, S...L...O...W...L...Y
[05:37] <klobster> true
[05:38] <jono> do many people still use limewire?
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> i will say that apple has the best chance of getting the music industry to stop using DRM
[05:38] <klobster> hey do i need the kdm or gdm to be started up at boot?  if it doesn't, Xorg will still call it, no?
[05:39] <willis_> you can use 'startx' to start X :)
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> klobster, nope, Xorg will call whatevers set up in ~/.xinitrc
[05:39] <klobster> good.
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> klobster, or, if that doesn't exist, whatever the default wm is
[05:40] <klobster> thank you.
[05:45] <brad> could someone possibly help me create a partition out of free space on my hard drive
[05:45] <brad> essentially, I decided it would be best if I put the OS and system files on one partition and media files on another
[05:45] <willis_> gparted from a live cd is handy for that.
[05:46] <brad> ok, I was going to ask if that was the best way to do it
[05:46] <ADiCT3D> Can someone help me im getting an error out while trying to compile firefox: configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required
[05:46] <willis_> but are you trying to merge 2 data partitions?
[05:46] <brad> I simply didnt want to do it all haphazardly
[05:46] <brad> no
[05:46] <brad> I want the OS on one, and a seperate media partition
[05:46] <brad> for music, videos, etc
[05:46] <brad> i did see the option in the install, did a lot of partitioning, I just want to make sure I Do it right
[05:46] <brad> and dont mess up my system which is working great
[05:47] <willis_> i tend to use lots of extra hard drives. :)
[05:48] <brad> and I downloaded QTparted but it wont let me make an ext3 which I believe is the better type of hard drive?
[05:48] <brad> does it just need me to do it from a live cd instead of using the hdd?
[05:49] <brad> but, essentially what I want is for the media drive to show up on my desktop like C drive if I were using windows
[05:49] <willis_> you do NOT (cant?) use gparted/qtparted on a mounted drive
[05:49] <willis_> Thats why one uses them normally from a live cd.
[05:49] <DasKreech> brad: do you have a /home partiton?
[05:49] <willis_> showing on the desktop = trivial
[05:50] <ADiCT3D> Can someone help me with a firefox ./configure error? Im new to compiling everything and when i try to compile it errors out with "configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required" How do i fix this can someone help?
[05:50] <brad> I have the one main partition mounted as root, simply a 20 gigabyte partition on a 160 gb drive
[05:50] <brad> its ext 3, I have a home folder, it isnt its own partition
[05:51] <willis_> so how many partitions total do you have?
[05:51] <Manson> 
[05:52] <brad> two, a /root partition, the swap partition, and free space
[05:52] <brad> I have like 132 gigs of unpartitioned space
[05:52] <DasKreech> brad: if I may a /home partition is a good idea
[05:52] <DasKreech> While you are doing partitions :)
[05:52] <willis_> depending on the size of the freespace. :) ya could just make a partition there and mount it whever ya want
[05:52] <brad> when you say a /home partition, do you mean for all of my files etc
[05:52] <brad> because that is what i am talking about
[05:52] <willis_>  - /home is where all users 'home' directories are at.. correct.
[05:53] <brad> so can I do this from the partitioning screen  on the install on the live cd without messing it up
[05:53] <willis_> mounting /home to its own parittion, or drive is quite common.
[05:53] <DasKreech> brad: all of your settings are kept in /home/username
[05:53] <willis_> use gparted or whatever, and create a new partitionon the unallocated space.
[05:53] <brad> I'm aware, right now that is on my root partition
[05:54] <willis_> You do hae some 'unallocated' ?    'free space' is not the same as 'unallocated'
[05:54] <brad> yes, unallocated, unpartitioned, cleared it all off, and only put the install on 20 gigabytes of 160
[05:54] <brad> didnt do anything else with the other space
[05:54] <brad> so that my music and video files which are on an external hdd right now could have s afe and stable partition to move back to
[05:55] <brad> I've just put it off a bit...
[05:55] <DasKreech> when You reinstall (many years from now hopefully) it will keep all your data and settings
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> brad, my suggestion would be to mount the unallocated on /home
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> wow, should probably scroll up next time :)
[05:57] <ADiCT3D> Can someone help me with a compiling error? "configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required"
[05:57] <brad> ok
[05:58] <brad> will it cause problems that currently it is putting stuff in a home folder on the root partition?
[05:58] <trakinas> ADiCT3D: which app?
[05:58] <ADiCT3D> im compiling firefox
[05:58] <willis_> you will MOVE your /home data over to the new partition, then mountit as /home permently :)
[05:58] <trakinas> why is that?
[05:58] <willis_> or mount it, then link /home to it.
[05:58] <trakinas> you have firefox on reps
[05:59] <ADiCT3D> it is crashing
[05:59] <ADiCT3D> i want it compiled myself
[06:00] <brad> do I want to tell it to be a primary partition or extended partition?
[06:00] <willis_> i doubt if that will help.
[06:00] <willis_> brad,  when in doubt.. use primary
[06:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: Did you set the build options?
[06:01] <ADiCT3D> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Build option?
[06:01] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: Hold on, I'll get a link.
[06:01] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Configuring_Build_Options
[06:02] <ADiCT3D> WhtWolfTeraDyne: so this isnt an easy task to build FF?
[06:03] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> The Firefox\Thunderbird\Sunbird\SeaMonkey compiling system isn't the standard "Configure, Make, Make Install"
[06:03] <ADiCT3D> WhtWolfTeraDyne: ffs it keeps crashing with flash :( and yeah..
[06:04] <Alisa> '''
[06:04] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: If you follow the build documentation, it's not too hard.
[06:04] <willis_> Im not sure that recompiling FF would fix the flash crashing problem
[06:04] <ADiCT3D> WhtWolfTeraDyne: I guess i'll pass on compiling it them :P
[06:04] <K-Ryan> Anyone know anything fun to do while on a console session?
[06:04] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> willis_: I'll agree with you on that.
[06:05] <willis_> K-Ryan,  theres some asci-animation demo thats cool to watch.. but i forget its name
[06:05] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> K-Ryan: nethack?
[06:05] <willis_> K-Ryan,  or use mplayer and its aalib feature to watch the matrix in ascii animation! :)
[06:05] <Alisa>  
[06:05] <Manson>  
[06:05] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Alisa: ?
[06:05] <K-Ryan> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Tried it, too tough
[06:05] <K-Ryan> willis_: No freaking way, it can do that?
[06:05] <Alisa>      
[06:06] <brad> now that I have this new partition how do I mount it to home from gparted?
[06:06] <willis_> brad,  gparted dont do the mounting
[06:06] <Alisa> so many people
[06:06] <Manson> ya ya
[06:06] <willis_> brad,  edit the fstab  and put the right entry in there..
[06:06] <willis_> !mount
[06:06] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:07] <ADiCT3D> Gparted is best
[06:07] <willis_> or use the gui tools (but it pays to learn about the fstab file)
[06:07] <ADiCT3D> fstab is easy to use
[06:07] <brad> ty
[06:07] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> video*
[06:07] <willis_> boot, click, click,, next.. enter user/pass.. wait... reboot. :)
[06:08] <Sayers> howdy
[06:08] <K-Ryan> Hi Sayers
[06:08] <ADiCT3D> im proud to have abandoned microsoft winblows a few weeks ago
[06:08] <Alisa> hi
[06:08] <Sayers> how does Compiz fusion run on KDE?
[06:08] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> willis_: Yes, it's that simple, but I'm watching it because I want to see how this guy explains it.
[06:09] <Manson> hi alisa
[06:09] <Alisa> hi manson
[06:09] <Manson> :)
[06:09] <Alisa> give me your foto manson
[06:09] <Manson> :-D
[06:09] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !offtopic
[06:09] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:09] <stoned> Marilyn Manson
[06:10] <Sayers> uhm, Compiz on kubuntu = Working?
[06:11] <K-Ryan> !compiz
[06:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:13] <Sayers> K-Ryan: Oh no, Compiz /fusion/
[06:13] <K-Ryan> !compizfusion
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compizfusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <K-Ryan> !fusion
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <K-Ryan> Sayers: Sorry, I don't know anything about it so the best I can do is check the bot triggers, sorry.
[06:14] <Sayers> Well it works fine with Ubuntu so Im sure it works here
[06:14] <K-Ryan> Sayers: Should
[06:15] <dsmith__> is kubuntu capable of running on a Mac?
[06:15] <Sayers> Only if it's an intell chip
[06:15] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Sayers: Wrong. There's a PPC version as well.
[06:15] <Sayers> dsmith__: Only if its a processor
[06:15] <Sayers> :-)
[06:15] <dsmith__> I was asked today
[06:16] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Sayers: O_O; That'll work.
[06:16] <dsmith__> so intel processor, PPC distro?
[06:16] <willis_> ive had kubutun on my ppc mac..
[06:16] <Sayers> Get the PPC arch of it
[06:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> dsmith__: No. Intel mac uses the i386 version. The older PPC macs need the PPC version
[06:17] <dsmith__> oh!, ok
[06:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !mac
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ...
[06:17] <willis_> ppc version is  sort of getting phased out isent it? dont hear much about it any more
[06:17] <dsmith__> hehe
[06:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> willis_: They've ended official support for PPC.
[06:17] <Manson> where i may download codecs for videofiles? and VLC player too?
[06:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !vlc
[06:18] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> That doesn't help...
[06:18] <willis_> WhtWolfTeraDyne,  i was thinking that..
[06:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !info vlc
[06:18] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[06:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !codecs
[06:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:18] <Manson> thanks
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> Manson, i would suggest downloading the actual vlc source vice getting the one from the repos, it has a lot of stuff disabled iirc
[06:20] <K-Ryan> What's iirc?
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> if i remember correctly
[06:20] <K-Ryan> Oh, thanks
[06:20] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> K-Ryan: If I Remember\Recall Correctly
[06:20] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> too late
[06:20] <K-Ryan> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Thanks anyway ;)
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> Manson, one of the very few instances i ever reccomend that
[06:21] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> You know. It's odd. If I'm on my laptop, I'll start looking at my desktop more, and if I'm on my desktop, I'll keep looking back at my laptop...
[06:21] <K-Ryan> That's a bit of an oxymoron
[06:22] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ?
[06:22] <K-Ryan> Because the more you look at your desktop, the more you look at your laptop, but the more you look at your laptop, the more you look at your desktop.
[06:23] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> K-Ryan: If I'm ON. Keyword being "on". When you're "on" a computer, it usually means you're using it at that moment.
[06:23] <K-Ryan> WhtWolfTeraDyne: I know, I'm just teasing =P
[06:24] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> And that previous sentence I made is why I only scored a 56% on the writing section of the COMPASS test I took earlier.
[06:25] <randy> Howdy I need some help, every time i try to ./configure i get checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables as an error
[06:25] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !b-e
[06:25] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> randy, you need build-essential
[06:25] <K-Ryan> randy: You most likely don't have the build-essential package
[06:26] <randy> whats !b-e do?
[06:26] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:26] <K-Ryan> DO that
[06:26] <K-Ryan> *Do
[06:26] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> randy: The "!" is what causes the bot, "Ubotu", to post one of his factoids into the chat.
[06:26] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !bot
[06:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:27] <willis_> !we love you
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about we love you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[06:27] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:27] <randy> haha
[06:28] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I really should remember to turn down the volume before starting an episode of The Linux Link Tech Show. Dann still hasn't gotten the volume right...
[06:28] <randy> THANKS!! whew I was getting frustrated
[06:28] <K-Ryan> No problem
[06:29] <randy> oh wait
[06:29] <randy> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[06:29] <randy> !X libraries
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x libraries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <randy> drats
[06:29] <sayers> Come on, please msg ubotu
[06:29] <randy> Im new to this IRC thing >_<
[06:29] <sayers> do /msg ubotu Hey
[06:30] <willis_> i think theres the xlibs-dev package for that.
[06:30] <willis_> thers so many dev packages.. its scary
[06:30] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> sayers: I thought "msg"ing was turned off for unregistered users...
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> randy, probably xorg-x11-dev or something like that
[06:31] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> randy: "sudo aptitude install xorg-dev"
[06:32] <randy> haha i tried "sudo apt-get install xorg-dev"
[06:32] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> randy: That will work as well.
[06:33] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> AFK. Going to take a shower...
[06:33] <DasKreech> Why the heck isn't there a Seamonkey package
[06:34] <DasKreech> !ru
[06:34] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:34] <randy> ...seamonkey package?
[06:34] <patrick_> Does anyone know why I would be able to enable plugin for Banshee and receive radio play in Ubuntu. However, in my Kubuntu environment its saying no codec.
[06:38] <patrick_> I tried to find what multimedia codecs were different from the two desktops. Haven't found anything out of the ordinary.
[06:39] <ShockValue> is there a good kde-type mysql frontend? k
[06:40] <Gtwy> does anyone know of a cheap, but reliable, hardware RAID controller that is very compatible with linux? hotswappable is a plus
[06:41] <ShockValue> google "3ware"
[06:41] <Gtwy> ShockValue: thanks
[06:41] <ShockValue> excellent hardware + linux support
[06:41] <ShockValue> and the older models on ebay go for "cheap" depending on your buget :)
[06:42] <ShockValue> (which is still too expensive to me :)
[06:43] <miles> is there any flashplayer solution for AMD64?
[06:43] <miles> besides gnash (which is hardly a solution)
[06:44] <DasKreech> !ppc
[06:44] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[06:44] <miles> was that ppc directed at me?
[06:46] <DasKreech> randy: Yeah seamonkey
[06:47] <kirke> Hi,  somebody knows how to edit "/etc/resolv.conf" PERMANENTLY ??
[06:47] <intelikey> well i'm less ignorant than i was 8 hours ago
[06:48] <intelikey> kirke could make it immutable   but that's not the "right" way
[06:48] <kirke> ok, tell me 'the right way'.
[06:48] <randy> ok i hate to be a complete newb but, now i am getting a KDE configure error. "Checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, youve chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!"
[06:48] <intelikey> well that's the one i don't know
[06:49] <intelikey> !b-e | randy
[06:49] <ubotu> randy: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:50] <intelikey> randy kdelibs-dev  or something like that is the package it's looking for
[06:50] <kirke> intelikey, so, How can I make it 'immutable' ?
[06:50] <intelikey> kirke sudo chattr +i /etc/reslov.conf
[06:51] <kirke> intelikey, what does that?
[06:51] <intelikey> there's no telling what all that will break tho
[06:51] <intelikey> kirke makes the file immutable
[06:51] <intelikey> can't be changed.
[06:51] <miles> wat is the command to find out what kernel you are running?
[06:51] <miles> i thought it was 'uname -r'
[06:51] <intelikey> uname
[06:51] <miles> echo 'uname -r' i mean
[06:51] <kirke> intelikey, and, how can I make it mutable again?
[06:51] <intelikey> yeah miles uname -a
[06:51] <miles> k thx
[06:52] <intelikey> kirke -i
[06:52] <intelikey> kirke sudo chattr -i /etc/reslov.conf
[06:52] <intelikey> kirke i think    man chattr    would be in order
[06:52] <kirke> intelikey, ok thanks!
[06:53] <intelikey> welcome
[06:53] <thunderbolt> Hello, how's it going?
[06:53] <yotsuya> Hi all, I am using text install (7.04), it freezes at 85% saying "Installed openoffice.org-java-common". Any ideas?
[06:53] <intelikey> kirke there is probably something in /etc/network/  that can do basicly the same thing   but i am still network illiterate
[06:54] <DasKreech> randy: You need the Kde-devel headers
[06:54] <miles> yotsuya: you know, oddly enough, i had that same problem
[06:54] <miles> yotsuya: what version of ubuntu are you installing ?
[06:54] <DasKreech> yotsuya: run the CD check on it
[06:54] <arun> how do i move stuff from 'lost & found' to it's proper location in the kmenu?
[06:54] <miles> i know 7.04, but ubuntu, ubuntu-server, kubuntu
[06:54] <intelikey> sounds kinda like java asking for a contract agreement
[06:55] <miles> that exact same thing happened to me on a alt-install of ubuntu...i ended up DLing ubuntu-server instead
[06:55] <yotsuya> kubuntu 7.04 on a Sony laptop. I ran the check before, maybe should run it again?..
[06:55] <arun> yotsuya: what's the problem
[06:56] <miles> alternate install of kubuntu halts at 85%
[06:56] <arun> ah
[06:56] <miles> i remember letting it sit for about an hour when i was doing it at work and it still didnt move
[06:56] <yotsuya> I am running the alt-install because the graphical installer freezes on my laptop seconds after it starts
[06:57] <yotsuya> it freezes at the same place, just as miles says it did in his case
[06:57] <miles> yotsuya: hate to tell you this, but i never found a solution and just DL'ed a different version of ubuntu
[06:58] <miles> but this was on a server at work, not my box im on now
[06:58] <yotsuya> let me check what's available for download...
[07:00] <yotsuya> miles: from the official site, I get links to "desktop" and "alternate" for multiple architectures. What did you install?
[07:01] <arun> anyone use ubuntu server edition here?
[07:02] <miles> at work i do
[07:02] <miles> arun
[07:02] <miles> yotsuya: i was trying to install 7.04 ubuntu
[07:02] <arun> how has your experience been with it miles/
[07:02] <miles> it was alt-install
[07:03] <yotsuya> Wait, a miracle happened! On a third attempt, after 20 minutes of sitting idle at 85%, it moved on and finished the installation!
[07:03] <arun> as in, are you using it as a server or desktop?
[07:03] <miles> reinstalled with ubuntu-server 7.04
[07:03] <miles> arun: i run a ubuntu-server at work
[07:03] <arun> yotsuya: congrats
[07:03] <miles> its pretty nice
[07:03] <arun> cool.. i just read the info on the site, it seems ridiculously easy to set up a server using ubuntu
[07:03] <miles> i  had a little difficulty getting tasksel to set up a lamp stack
[07:04] <yotsuya> Thanks, it's all because of you guys. Software respects people who can fix it, and starts to work when they are around :)
[07:04] <miles> glad i could help?
[07:05] <miles> arun: ive only used ubuntu-server and sles 10 for a server, ubuntu smoke sles
[07:05] <thunderbolt> Hmmm, anyone ever use Grumpy here?
[07:05] <miles> !grumpy | miles
[07:06] <miles> dont know what it is
[07:06] <arun> whats grumpy
[07:06] <thunderbolt> It was supposed to be sort of like Debian Experimental for Ubuntu.
[07:06] <arun> i love the names of linux software.. yesterday someone asked for aircrack and airsnort heh
[07:06] <thunderbolt> Grumpy Groundhog.
[07:06] <miles> debian experimental?
[07:07] <miles> i thought ubuntu was a derivative of debian
[07:07] <DasKreech> thunderbolt: It never really existed
[07:07] <thunderbolt> DasKreech: Ah, thanks.
[07:08] <thunderbolt> It is, but Debian Experimental is where all the really new packages go, that are *really* likely to break your system. If I understand it properly, even more unstable than Sid.
[07:09] <miles> yea, i just looked it up
[07:09] <craftycorner> hello
[07:09] <COONiA> fr ?
[07:09] <craftycorner> my nautilus keeps crashing
[07:10] <craftycorner> can i uninstall then reinstall?
[07:10] <miles> !nautilus | craftycorner
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <miles> does mark shuttleworth even like computers?
[07:10] <miles> or is he just an entrepenuer
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> in other words, nautilus is persona non grata in the kubuntu world.
[07:11] <yotsuya> What's the difference between the server and "standard" ubuntu? With Windows, it's the "premium" features that you are supposed to pay for. How does it work in open source world?
[07:11] <miles> yotsuya: server doesnt have a gui number 1
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> yotsuya: the server version is customized with packages that would be required on a server
[07:11] <miles> yea, the server install includes an option to install lamp or dns
[07:12] <arun> no gui??
[07:12] <miles> i havent looked into it too much either, but id imagine the kernel is optimized for server processes
[07:12] <miles> yea, its all text-mode
[07:12] <miles> aka leet mode
[07:12] <intelikey> i think the second box here has a loose ide cable....     getting some strnge drive actions.
[07:12] <arun> yotsuya: higher security as well
[07:12] <arun> no ports are open
[07:14] <yotsuya> seems like a configuration option: reconfigure kernel for server / reboot?
[07:14] <yotsuya> Why different install?
[07:14] <arun> yotsuya: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition
[07:15] <_dac> anyone here from France?
[07:16] <intelikey> ok someone tell me how to share the dialup connection with LAN ?
[07:16] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !fr | _dac
[07:16] <ubotu> _dac: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:16] <_dac> ty
[07:16] <yotsuya> OK, a newbie question... Adept Updater asks me for a root password, but I never set one. What do I do?
[07:16] <miles> sudo passwd in console
[07:17] <arun> yotsuya: it's the password you set for your username
[07:17] <miles> "sudo passwd"
[07:17] <arun> same password
[07:17] <arun> the one you set during installation
[07:17] <intelikey> yotsuya it's not asking for the root password it's asking for your passwd
[07:17] <yotsuya> But that's the password for an unprivileged account, isn't it?
[07:17] <intelikey> nope
[07:17] <arun> no, just use it
[07:18] <intelikey> you are "root jr."
[07:18] <arun> haha
[07:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !sudo
[07:18] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:18] <arun> we're all rooting for you
[07:18] <arun> ok sorry.
[07:18] <miles> o nose
[07:18] <miles> i never understood how that was supposed to make ubuntu secure
[07:19] <DasKreech> !fr | COONiA
[07:19] <ubotu> COONiA: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:19] <miles> if they cracked ur password, making them type it to escalate privelages isnt really mitigation
[07:19] <miles> at all
[07:19] <yotsuya> Yeah, I ran sudo under many unixes, and I understand what it does, I am just confused about the "root" password being the same as my regular (non-root) user
[07:19] <miles> yea same
[07:19] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> netsplit...
[07:19] <miles> educate me
[07:20] <intelikey> miles the theory is "they don't know your user name, so they have to crack two things the user name and the passwd"   in relity most people show the user name when they login to irc    and that's where most crackers would be anyway....
[07:20] <DasKreech> yotsuya: Server has no packages that take up "useless" memory
[07:20] <miles> so you guys know my password now?! o nose!
[07:20] <yotsuya> DasKreech: give me an example?
[07:20] <intelikey> miles and your login name "miles"
[07:20] <miles> still, knowing the user is half the battle
[07:21] <miles> yotsuya: example = no gui
[07:21] <DasKreech> yotsuya: Like a Pretty GUI
[07:21] <miles> beat u to it
[07:21] <arun> anyone here use ardour?
[07:21] <DasKreech> Or an ugly one
[07:21] <miles> shoot..so i should probably switch my irc name huh
[07:21] <DasKreech> yotsuya: If you like you can make a second user. That user will have no root privvies at all
[07:21] <yotsuya> Oh, I see, it's different from Windows, heh
[07:21] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> arun: #audour is their IRC channel
[07:21] <arun> it's ardour
[07:21] <arun> thanks though
[07:22] <DasKreech> yotsuya: The way it normally works is that there is root and others
[07:22] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Sorry. I ment #ardour
[07:22] <DasKreech> However since everyone knows there is a root thats the aacount they try to hack
[07:22] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I'm seeing it in the channel listing and I still misspell it.
[07:22] <miles> 127.0.0.1 - hack me
[07:23] <thunderbolt> I can beat that, I'm at 0.0.0.0, hah!\
[07:23] <DasKreech> the Ubuntu way has no account available named "root" so the real "root" account is one unknown to people casually trying to hack your machine
[07:23] <miles> haha
[07:23] <miles> oooooooo
[07:23] <miles> so thats why they do it...i got it
[07:23] <miles> thats why you cant log in as root at the splash
[07:23] <yotsuya> I see, that's exactly what MS guys got wrong - I want to be "root" and a regular user, why do I want two accounts?
[07:23] <DasKreech> However yeah.. if they do get your password then you are grossly bent over
[07:24] <miles> ha
[07:24] <DasKreech> yotsuya: Well you should never ever ever run your narmally daily stuff in the root account
[07:24] <DasKreech> normal
[07:24] <miles> yotsuya: regular user account for regular use, like irc...root account for administration like installing new software or editing a config file
[07:24] <yotsuya> ...so, in Windows world, you have to be root all the time, and all the security measures don't mena anything
[07:24] <DasKreech> With the ubuntu way you can use your new super account for daily things and elevate when you need to
[07:25] <miles> vista kinda copied ubuntu with that
[07:25] <yotsuya> makes sense
[07:25] <thunderbolt> I'm more afraid of someone deleting all the stuff in my home directory, then separating root privileges to another account doesn't really help...
[07:25] <DasKreech> however if even that makes you nervous you can make an even less priveliged user (your second user by default)
[07:25] <miles> but it sucks
[07:25] <DasKreech> miles: copied Unix :)
[07:25] <miles> eep
[07:25] <miles> never used it
[07:25] <ShockValue> is there a package someplace for QtMyAdmin  ?
[07:26] <DasKreech> thunderbolt: Yeah In that case lock down your box
[07:26] <DasKreech> ShockValue: Ehh?
[07:26] <thunderbolt> Of course :)
[07:26] <DasKreech> miles: It's very very very annoying
[07:26] <DasKreech> I've been asked 6 time to authorize to press one button
[07:26] <yotsuya> "21392 updates available"? How can THAT be?!
[07:26] <miles> o yea
[07:26] <DasKreech> it's also very inconsistent
[07:27] <miles> i got vista on my work laptop
[07:27] <miles> its a joke
[07:27] <DasKreech> yotsuya: Floating point error?
[07:27] <ShockValue> DasKreech: its a mysql admin package.. pretty popular.. but i cant find it in aptitude or any .deb packs on the web
[07:27] <miles> "are you sure you want to run this?" ...uh yea thats why i clicked it
[07:27] <ShockValue> errr synaptic.. whatever the hell this thing is :)
[07:27] <yotsuya> DasKreech: no, just asked for updates
[07:28] <DasKreech> ShockValue: MyPHPadmin?
[07:28] <ShockValue> yes, like that, but not php. qt
[07:28] <DasKreech> !find qtadmin
[07:28] <ubotu> Package/file qtadmin does not exist in feisty
[07:28] <miles> o that is sick
[07:28] <miles> i didnt know about
[07:28] <miles> !flex
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <DasKreech> ShockValue: Maybe packages.ubuntu.com
[07:28] <miles> woops
[07:28] <miles> !find flex
[07:28] <ubotu> Found: flex, flex-doc, flex-old, flex-old-doc, qobex (and 9 others)
[07:28] <DasKreech> !search qtadmin
[07:28] <ubotu> Found:
[07:29] <DasKreech> hi intelikey
[07:30] <intelikey> DasKreech
[07:30] <DasKreech> nikkiana: Hiya
[07:30] <nikkiana> hi DasKreech
[07:30] <miles> !help
[07:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:30] <DasKreech> nikkiana: how are you?
[07:31] <nikkiana> DasKreech, not bad :)
[07:31] <DasKreech> Excellent! :)
[07:32] <yotsuya> OK, folks, another newbie question... how do I know if my wireless works?
[07:32] <miles> "iwconfig"
[07:32] <miles> do you know what card it is yotsuya
[07:33] <intelikey> hmm seems i have to install "iptables" to be able to forward the ppp0 to eth0
[07:33] <yotsuya> ok, it gives me a bunch under "wlan0" - what's to look for?
[07:33] <miles> yea
[07:33] <intelikey> yotsuya you could use iwconfig  maybe ?
[07:34] <intelikey> oh sorry i'
[07:34] <intelikey> 'm late
[07:34] <Gtwy> 3ware is a little pricy
[07:34] <Gtwy> any other decent hardware RAID controllers that support linux?
[07:34] <sfire> intelikey: I got a great guide for that earlier
[07:35] <sfire> intelikey: http://www.netadmintools.com/art216.html
[07:35] <sfire> works flawlessly
[07:35] <sfire> oops
[07:35] <sfire> wrong guide
[07:35] <yotsuya> It says ESSID="" - guess that means I'm not connected?
[07:37] <miles> yotsuya : "iwconfig wlan0 essid <<enter your network broadcast id here>>"
[07:37] <miles> you probably gotta put a sudo before all that though
[07:37] <miles> !essid
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about essid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <intelikey> sfire :)
[07:38] <sfire> intelikey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[07:38] <intelikey> k
[07:38] <sfire> that was the guide
[07:38] <intelikey> what port is irc ?
[07:38] <miles> 6667 i think
[07:38] <Riyoxke> 6667
[07:39] <intelikey> and ?
[07:39] <miles> no and
[07:39] <intelikey> there is another very common port
[07:39] <miles> o
[07:39] <miles> i dunno then
[07:39] <miles> i know 6667
[07:39] <intelikey> yeah i remembered that one.  but the other is in the 9k range i think
[07:39] <intelikey> not sure.
[07:40] <yotsuya> miles: now it reads ESSID:"right value"
[07:40] <yotsuya> miles: Am I connected, though?
[07:41] <sfire> I had to do a 'sudo ifup wlan0'
[07:41] <miles> is "right value" your essid?
[07:41] <yotsuya> yeah
[07:41] <miles> if it is, yea do "sudo ifup wlan0" though i usually do "ifdown wlan0;ifup wlan0"
[07:42] <miles> if your network has a key, make sure to do "iwconfig wlan0 key <<ur key here>>"
[07:42] <miles> if its wep, if its wpa, u need the wpa_supplicant and thats a whole new can of worms that i never got figured out
[07:42] <yotsuya> "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0"
[07:43] <miles> do u need a key?
[07:43] <yotsuya> sure, I'm not running an open network
[07:44] <miles> enter "iwconfig wlan0 key <<ur key here>>" in case u havent yet
[07:44] <miles> it might be easier to get a network manager package from the repos
[07:44] <miles> but i guess you cant if ur wireless doesnt work..hmm
[07:45] <yotsuya> I have the wired connection up
[07:45] <intelikey> crap.  have to install cron and log rotate.   not that i'll ever use them...
[07:46] <intelikey> i think i even installed passwd and adduser     this box is starting to look generic, rather than one of mine.
[07:47] <miles> does it have glibc??
[07:48] <ok> hello
[07:48] <ok> o wow, i didnt know thats how you changed your name
[07:48] <miles> .
[07:48] <intelikey> yeah   i can't find a way to run without it.
[07:48] <intelikey> libc that is
[07:49] <thunderbolt> Stupid Radeon 7000, doesn't work with the GIMP, or Blender or vegastrike...
[07:49] <intelikey> -:- miles is now known as ok
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[07:49] <miles> yea?
[07:49] <miles> i was just testng something
[07:49] <yotsuya> About the wireless key... what do I put in, if I have "WPA-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access Pre-Shared Key)
[07:49] <yotsuya> set on my router?
[07:49] <arun> thunderbolt: ATI cards are bad for health. Eat nVidia.
[07:49] <miles> you need the wpa_supplicant
[07:50] <miles> and i dont know anything about it other than i couldnt get it to work
[07:50] <thunderbolt> arun: I think that's a good policy.
[07:50] <miles> !counter-strike
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about counter-strike - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <thunderbolt> be right back.
[07:51] <yotsuya> ok... any other methods of setting up a protected WiFi netowrk?
[07:54] <thunderbolt> Curses, does anyone have any tips to get the X server to play nicer with a Radeon 7000? it doesn't seem to be working well with the XOR command...
[07:55] <thunderbolt> Or barring that, a good nVidia card for Ubuntu?
[07:56] <thunderbolt> AGP port...
[07:57] <sfire> my new PC is comming with a junk ATI... plan to sell it as soon as it arrives (the video card)
[07:57] <arun> i use an nvidia geforce 6150, it works pretty well
[07:57] <sfire> ATI is just worthless
[07:59] <thunderbolt> Here's a spectacularly dumb question: Is there anything I should do before popping the new card in? Or does Kubuntu do through something akin to a 'discover hardware' phase for graphics cards on bootup?
[07:59] <NightBird> turn the computer off
[07:59] <thunderbolt> Well, yes :)
[07:59] <thunderbolt> And de-static myself.
[07:59] <NightBird> I don't believe kubuntu does a hardware discover for the video card
[08:00] <NightBird> so you should probably make sure the default driver is selected for the X server
[08:00] <mo0osah> NightBird: it should....
[08:00] <marcelol> so how many people have started up use Compiz Fusion
[08:00] <mo0osah> marcelol: isn't it still alpha?
[08:01] <NightBird> mo0osah: that rarely stops people from using fun programs :P
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> marcelol: if the control panel worked for me, i would
[08:01] <NightBird> that having been said, no I haven't played with Compiz Fusion
[08:01] <mo0osah> I guess i'm too paranoid that my system would get crapped
[08:02] <mo0osah> marcelol: have you?f
[08:02] <marcelol> yeah....just read it's in Tribe 3....was curious if anyone thought it was anywhere ready for primetime
[08:02] <marcelol> I'm debating it...
[08:02] <mo0osah> marcelol: are you using compiz or beryl atm?
[08:02] <marcelol> just got Beryl working comfortably on my system
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> marcelol: i'm looking to install it but the beryl wiki is down and i use that for my information
[08:03] <mo0osah> marcelol: cool, what kind of gfx card do you have?
[08:04] <Daisuke_Ido> speaking from experience (this isn't beryl related) but one of the first things i would tell every kubuntu user to do upon getting their system set up is install yakuake
[08:04] <mo0osah> ! mo0osah
[08:04] <Daisuke_Ido> that's probably the tool i love most of all
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mo0osah - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <mo0osah> !yakuake
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <marcelol> old Gfx card
[08:04] <marcelol> GeForce Go 4200
[08:05] <marcelol> 4 year old laptop
[08:05] <mo0osah> ohh, my notebook is over two year old as well
[08:05] <Ice9> hello
[08:06] <mo0osah> Daisuke_Ido: so what's so cool about yakuake?
[08:06] <Ice9> I'm having some sound issues, just installed ubuntu, I'm seeing that there aren't any linux drivers for my card, is there a workaround to get this working?
[08:06] <Daisuke_Ido> terminal emulator that sticks around
[08:06] <Daisuke_Ido> f12 to drop it from the top of the screen, other times it's not visible
[08:07] <Daisuke_Ido> no need to ever open konsole, you always have a terminal handy
[08:07] <mo0osah> Ice9 what kind of card?
[08:07] <Ice9> SB X-fi fatality
[08:07] <marcelol> and kudos go to crdlib who helped me work it out....
[08:07] <sfire> Ice9: the latest ones are not supported
[08:08] <sfire> Ice9: there is only one X-fi supported and its baised on the audigy 2 chipset
[08:08] <sfire> (thats why its supported)
[08:08] <marcelol> you have to turn on "Copy" in Rendering Path and Disable Yields
[08:08] <sfire> anything with the new chipset isn't working
[08:08] <marcelol> but it works
[08:08] <marcelol> just wish the decorator repositories worked
[08:09] <Daisuke_Ido> marcelol: i haven't had any problem with them
[08:09] <Daisuke_Ido> i get the error calling tar a couple times, but nothing serious
[08:09] <marcelol> I can't dload anything from the "officia" repositories
[08:09] <Ice9> which x-fi is supported?
[08:09] <sfire> the lowest model
[08:10] <sfire> I was looking just last night for a new sound card
[08:10] <sfire> its the 53 dollar basic one... none of the others are supported
[08:10] <Ice9> think using those drivers would let me have some sound?
[08:10] <sfire> no
[08:10] <sfire> totally different chipset
[08:10] <Ice9> so there's no workaround or anything?
[08:11] <sfire> nope
[08:11] <marcelol> it always say "error calling tar"
[08:11] <sfire> they can't make the card even make a noise... and creative are being dicks
[08:11] <sfire> (as always)
[08:11] <Ice9> freakin' unreal
[08:11] <sfire> I know... I wanted one too
[08:12] <marcelol> sfire....I remember when I worked at IBM, and we were trying to get SoundBlaster 1 support in OS/2
[08:12] <mo0osah> Daisuke_Ido: is it possible to make yakuake transparent?
[08:12] <marcelol> Creative was being a dick in the face of a 60Billion dollar company go figure
[08:12] <marcelol> so anyone know how to make emerald properly use the GPL'd themes ?
[08:16] <Daisuke_Ido> mo0osah: not sure, never tried
[08:16] <marcelol> Hmmm
[08:16] <Daisuke_Ido> but it doesn't really need to be, it's not out unless you're using it
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> #ubuntu-effects is your friend
[08:17] <marcelol> g'night folks...thanks Admiral_Chicago
[08:17] <mo0osah> Daisuke_Ido: true, true
[08:18] <intelikey> anyone see jucato in the last few days ?
[08:19] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm, no, i haven't.  odd
[08:19] <intelikey> i think he found another pinguin
[08:23] <mo0osah> does compiz fusion have official website? too lazy to google
[08:24] <mo0osah> or atleast a list of supported graphics card like on beryl website
[08:24] <Daisuke_Ido> compiz fusion = beryl + compiz.  if it works with beryl, it'll work with this.
[08:24] <jombee> compiz fusion f-ing rocks
[08:25] <mo0osah> Daisuke_Ido: good to know
[08:25] <intelikey> would you like to forward ports from one or more external IP addresses to one or more internal IP addresses (yes/no) :  <<<<  i'm pretty sure that's what i want.   but i'm network illiterate,   what ports do i forward from ppp0 to eth0  for internet sharing ?
[08:26] <intelikey> anyone ?
[08:28] <mo0osah> intelikey: i thought port forwarding was for services such as ftp so they get to the right pc on the network...
[08:28] <surgy> i installed windows on a second hard drive, kubuntu was allready installed..... and now it auto boots into windows everytime, how do i fix grub so that i have a choice again?
[08:28] <jombee> If I remember right you just have to set the default gateway correctly
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> mo0osah: opencompositing.org
[08:29] <intelikey> mo0osah ok. you the man.   i've never done this before
[08:29] <jombee> intelikey: are you using ubuntu and do you have 2 network cables
[08:29] <mo0osah> surgy: http://apcmag.com/5459/dualboot_ubuntu_and_windows_xp
[08:30] <intelikey> jombee dialup  yes ubuntu server
[08:30] <jombee> I see a howto to do it with the desktop edition, but I'm sure it will work the same way.
[08:30] <jombee> http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html
[08:31] <intelikey> ok  i'll look
[08:32] <jombee> it's not very well written so you will likely have questions if you've never done anything like it before
[08:33] <surgy> im sorry u must have miss understood me, i know how to dual boot, i just had to install in the wrong order this time, and now grub isnt showing and its auto booting strait into windows without giving me a choice or even showing that grub still exsists, can someone help me restore my grub to functionality pleasE?
[08:33] <jombee> surgy, the easiest way to do it is to boot from livecd
[08:33] <intelikey> hmmm webadmin
[08:34] <surgy> jombee: and then come back here?
[08:34] <mo0osah> will kubuntu gutsy have compiz fusion preinstalled aswell?
[08:34] <jombee> surgy: yeah that'd be best
[08:34] <mo0osah> surgy: if you read that site, towards the end they tell you how to fix the grub
[08:34] <Almighty_Henaro> Hey guys I'm having trouble getting this done -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-09167948173503db5923da717a106f0c3aac1cd2
[08:34] <jombee> surgy: it's a few commands but they're not that hard
[08:34] <Almighty_Henaro> Anyone think they can help me?
[08:34] <Almighty_Henaro> e_e
[08:34] <surgy> lol and i have a windows problem too.... but you guys dont want to help me with that im sure
[08:35] <mo0osah> what's the windows problem? they're usually easier to solve :)
[08:35] <y_AlmightHenaro> When I do "find /boot/grub/stage1" in grub I get this "Error 15: File not found"
[08:36] <surgy> lol go ahead and flame me but i have good reasons, but i installed win 98 SE updated it and got everything working, except for my video card, seams to be having driver conflict problems, its an Nvidia XFX 6800 XTreme i downloaded and installed about 30 different drivers now and none seam to work, it always says "cannot find an nvidia graphics card"
[08:37] <y_AlmightHenaro> That's some crazy machine code
[08:37] <y_AlmightHenaro> Hit it
[08:38] <surgy> mo0osah: can you help?
[08:38] <hamadooo> hello guys can someone tell me how to use joh ripper program under ubuntu
[08:38] <mo0osah> surgy: well.... i know your graphics card is too new for windows 98
[08:38] <surgy> mo0osah plus im getting "windows protection error, you must restart your computeR" on almost every reboot
[08:38] <intelikey> surgy that's from a messed copy of the sys.ini
[08:39] <mo0osah> surgy: does it have like a 60 second timer or something?
[08:39] <surgy> mo0osah: does what have a timmer?
[08:39] <mo0osah> that restart your computer thing....
[08:39] <sfire> anyone know how to use 2 internet connections at once in kubuntu?
[08:39] <surgy> mo0osah: no it freezes till i press cntrl+alt+del
[08:39] <intelikey> or one of the windows config files.   it rotates each boot   i have one bad copy and every other time the kids boot windows 9x they get that same error   "every other time"
[08:39] <sfire> I've got a wired connection and a wireless (wireless is via a neighbors wireless router)
[08:40] <sfire> can I use both at once?
[08:40] <jombee> surgy: download latest nvidia 6 series driver boot into safe mode delete all display adapter drivers reboot install new drivers
[08:40] <mo0osah> ohh nevermind i remember seeing that before... i installed a firewall and that fixed it.... i guess my installation cd of windows was virused....
[08:40] <hamadooo> help plz
[08:40] <surgy> lol
[08:40] <surgy> mo0osah: intelikey: any help on the video card thing?
[08:40] <surgy> there are several drivers out there, just none seam to work
[08:40] <intelikey> no sorry surgy
[08:41] <hamadooo> surgy can  you  help plz
[08:41] <surgy> yes?
[08:41] <intelikey> surgy my nvidia card works with the win9x driver
[08:41] <surgy> whatcha need bro?
[08:41] <surgy> intelikey: but is it an xfx card?
[08:41] <mo0osah> surgy: this might be lame but did you try official nvidia drivers?
[08:41] <hamadooo> could you tell me how to use john ripper under ubuntu
[08:41] <surgy> mo0osah: yes 5 of them
[08:42] <mo0osah> lol nevermind
[08:42] <surgy> hamadooo: never heard of it
[08:42] <hamadooo> ok
[08:42] <surgy> could i be having a conflict?
[08:42] <hamadooo> what about you moosh ??????
[08:42] <mo0osah> surgy: try on #windows ... they might know more
[08:42] <surgy> if so how do i fix?
[08:42] <intelikey> no it's an older riva
[08:42] <surgy> lol
[08:42] <intelikey> surgy there is a ##windows channel here
[08:43] <jombee> surgy: you have to boot into safe mode
[08:43] <surgy> i thought that was a joke there really is a #windows lol
[08:43] <intelikey> no not #windows   ##windows
[08:43] <mo0osah> hamadooo: don't really know.. can google for you
[08:43] <Daisuke_Ido> hamadooo: JTR is software designed to circumvent password protection, and not for legitimate purposes.  you're unlikely to get any help with it here.
[08:44] <intelikey> note surgy  #blah is reserved for registered "official" channels   ##blah is  open  "non-official"  support
[08:44] <hamadooo> i need it for this purpose .... i just want to try and see my password if its strong or not
[08:44] <jombee> anyone know anything about qemu-ifup?
[08:44] <intelikey> freenode politics ya know
[08:44] <Daisuke_Ido> then google it
[08:45] <underdog5004> hamadooo, surrrrrrrrrreeeeee you do...
[08:45] <underdog5004> lol
[08:45] <mo0osah> hahah
[08:45] <Daisuke_Ido> underdog5004: i'm calling BS on this one
[08:45] <intelikey> hamadooo use john the ripper
[08:45] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: that's EXACTLY what we're talking about :P
[08:45] <intelikey> !info john
[08:45] <ubotu> john: active password cracking tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6-40ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 548 kB, installed size 1172 kB
[08:45] <Daisuke_Ido> see my message above.
[08:45] <hamadooo> yeah intelikey im asking about it
[08:45] <intelikey>                                ^
[08:46] <hamadooo> i installed it in my ubuntu but don't  know how to use it
[08:46] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install john ;john /etc/passwd
[08:46] <mo0osah> hamadooo: after you get it to work, let us know how secure your password is ;)
[08:46] <intelikey> errr /etc/shadow  actually
[08:46] <Daisuke_Ido> if you can't figure it out, you shouldn't be messing with it to begin with.
[08:46] <hamadooo> loool
[08:47] <mo0osah> intelikey: what does it crack and what methods does it use?
[08:47] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido i learned everything i know about linux by the try it and reformat methood
[08:47] <hamadooo> intelikey ....  how do i add a  password ?
[08:47] <intelikey> hamadooo you add an account     sudo adduser blah
[08:47] <intelikey> mo0osah it's in main   install and   man john
[08:48] <underdog5004> wow...
[08:48] <surgy> ?
[08:48] <hamadooo> Adding user `blah' ...
[08:48] <hamadooo> Adding new group `blah' (10
[08:48] <mo0osah> surgy: ??
[08:48] <hamadooo> wroong .... how can i remove the account ?
[08:49] <hamadooo> forgot to change blah
[08:49] <hamadooo> :)
[08:49] <intelikey> mo0osah i don't mean that disrespectfully   just been long time sense i "john'd" anything
[08:49] <Tm_T> hamadooo: well, guess, addusr, might be delusr?
[08:49] <Tm_T> hamadooo: there's logic, you know
[08:49] <hamadooo> lool
[08:49] <hamadooo> im just new in linux
[08:49] <intelikey> me uses useradd blah      useradd -d blah
[08:49] <intelikey> :)
[08:50] <mo0osah> intelikey: nah, thanks for the info... need to get my lazy butt to do something productive
[08:50] <Tm_T> intelikey: that works too
[08:50] <surgy> mo0osah
[08:50] <Tm_T> hamadooo: do "apropos user" to have all commands who seems to figgle users, I think
[08:50] <mo0osah> surgy: yea?
[08:51] <intelikey> Tm_T  is ipmasq  the best/only way to share ppp0 with eth0  ?
[08:51] <surgy> mo0osah: you said my name?
[08:51] <hamadooo> hamadooo@Q8boy-laptop:~$ sudo delusr blah
[08:51] <hamadooo> sudo: delusr: command not found
[08:51] <Tm_T> intelikey: I have no idea, I just use firestarter for that
[08:51] <Tm_T> hamadooo: user
[08:51] <intelikey> oh   ok.
[08:51] <mo0osah> surgy: probably a typo... my bad
[08:51] <Tm_T> hamadooo: and I don't know is it that, just guessing really (:
[08:52] <intelikey> deluser != delusr
[08:52] <hamadooo> now i added an account ...... with blah
[08:52] <mo0osah> Tm_T: is firestarter gui?
[08:52] <Tm_T> it is
[08:52] <intelikey> mo0osah yes
[08:52] <Tm_T> !firestarter
[08:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:52] <mo0osah> Tm_T: don't really wanna mess with console based firewall
[08:52] <surgy> mo0osah: np
[08:52] <Tm_T> mo0osah: I understand that (:
[08:52] <kraut> moin
[08:53] <intelikey> mo0osah iptables is the firewall.  firestarter is a frontend
[08:53] <hamadooo> intelikey i can't removed the   blah accont that i just created by mistake :)
[08:53] <intelikey> hamadooo you can if you spell it correctly.   as several of us pointed out
[08:53] <intelikey> deluser != delusr
[08:54] <Tm_T> hamadooo: userdel is right command for you (:
[08:54] <Tm_T> I think
[08:54] <intelikey> i think too
[08:54] <hamadooo> done now ????
[08:54] <Tm_T> atleast apropos in debian gives that
[08:54] <hamadooo> ./usr/sbin/deluser: The user `blah' does not exist.
[08:55] <Tm_T> (:
[08:55] <intelikey> Tm_T they both work but one defaults to removing the home dir the other doesnt default to that
[08:55] <Tm_T> intelikey: I see, I rarely remove user accounts so don't have much experience of that
[08:56] <intelikey> like useradd and adduser   the first doesn't default to making a home dir and the second does
[08:56] <Tm_T> interesting
[08:56] <hamadooo> in windows when i  use john ripper i just add a file iin the same program folder and i call it passwd .... then from the dos i write john commands and its works
[08:56] <hamadooo> but  i don't know how to add a file into john folder !
[08:56] <hamadooo> in linux
[08:56] <intelikey> just a note.  del/adduser  are perl scripts that call useradd   iirc
[08:57] <surgy> ?
[08:57] <intelikey> hamadooo you can run john dirrectly on a file.    john /etc/shadow
[08:58] <intelikey> best i remember   anyway
[08:58] <hamadooo> Loaded 1 password (FreeBSD MD5 [32/32] )
[08:58] <hamadooo> i didnt add any passwd ?
[08:58] <intelikey> hamadooo and always read the man pages on cli apps before you run them for the first time.
[08:59] <intelikey> at the very least the intro to the page
[08:59] <intelikey> i.e. what the app is intended to do
[08:59] <hamadooo> i have a passwd ..... and i want to loade it into john
[09:00] <hamadooo> how ?
[09:00] <hamadooo> loadd it**
[09:01] <Tm_T> er
[09:01] <Tm_T> passwd is command to change password, I think
[09:01] <hamadooo> i write passwd in teerminal ?
[09:02] <Tm_T> hamadooo: well, you need parameters too propably, and sudo perhaps too
[09:02] <hamadooo> sudo passwd
[09:02] <intelikey> yes or sudo passwd <username>    to change the password for another user
[09:03] <keisangi> sudo passwd will change root password i think
[09:03] <keisangi> no ?
[09:03] <Tm_T> yes
[09:03] <intelikey> yes it will
[09:03] <hamadooo> root passwod for the ubuntu  user ?
[09:03] <Tm_T> no, root user
[09:03] <hamadooo> or the john ripper iser
[09:03] <hamadooo> i don't want to change the root passwd
[09:03] <intelikey> ok.   that bought the ignore switch
[09:03] <Tm_T> so give username
[09:04] <keisangi> if hamadooo just want to change current user password, typing just "passwd" in a term and when prompted give the new password
[09:04] <Tm_T> intelikey: bah, chicken
[09:04] <intelikey> Tm_T hey i got the patience award yestergo   it your turn
[09:04] <intelikey> :)
[09:05] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo passwd
[09:06] <intelikey> my eldest daughter coined that word "yestergo" at age 14months    i've been using it ever sense.      the origenal meaning seemed to be anything that is "past tense" was yestergo    :)
[09:07] <hamadooo> inteliky ... so now how can i add a passwd in john program in order ro crack it
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> eh, what do you mean ro crack
[09:08] <intelikey> "ro crack"  ???
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[09:08] <hamadooo> i  have an encrypteed passswd
[09:08] <hamadooo> i want to crack it
[09:09] <hamadooo> with john  program
[09:09] <intelikey> hehhe   "  We see you're using Internet Explorer.  Try Firefox, you'll like it better"    lol the stupid page determined that my "elinks" was ie   hahaha
[09:10] <hamadooo> so no one will help me :(
[09:11] <intelikey> " Firefox blocks pop-up windows. "  elinks does too   "It stops viruses and spyware."   heh that too   lol
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> hamadooo: no offense to you but I don't know how to help you. :\
[09:12] <hamadooo> it's ok thank  you very much
[09:13] <hatter> do superkaramba bits get remembered on reboot ?
[09:13] <Tm_T> hamadooo: have you read jack manual? I have no idea myself how it works, never used
[09:13] <hamadooo> there is now manual with the program
[09:13] <mo0osah> haha, did you guys know you can install linux while you're in windows:  nifty ;) http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com
[09:13] <Tm_T> yes
[09:14] <Tm_T> and I'm gone again :p ->
[09:14] <intelikey> seems too
[09:14] <intelikey>        This  manual page documents briefly the john command.  This manual page
[09:14] <intelikey>        was written for the Debian GNU/Linux distribution because the  original
[09:14] <intelikey>        program  does  not  have a manual page.
[09:14] <hamadooo> gfdgdfg:a6ad7908cee477c7f6a102643e8a733c
[09:15] <hamadooo> this is the passwd
[09:15] <intelikey> mo0osah yes  got the word on it late but i did know.   ubuntu has a windows installer now
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> hamadooo: yes they do
[09:15] <intelikey> echo 'gfdgdfg:a6ad7908cee477c7f6a102643e8a733c' > file ;john file
[09:16] <hamadooo> well ok  i will remove john now .... and i dont want to hack the site
[09:16] <hamadooo> done :P
[09:16] <mo0osah> haha
[09:17] <hamadooo> i don't want to .... hacking is bad thing
[09:17] <intelikey> hacking != cracking
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[09:17] <surgy> ok im done...
[09:17] <mo0osah> hamadooo: that could be argued, depending on your definition of hacking
[09:17] <intelikey> hacking changing code    cracking entering where forbiden
[09:17] <hamadooo> i feel like a strange in linux ;/
[09:17] <surgy> who keeps saying my name and making it flash?
[09:18] <hamadooo> i used to know everthing in win
[09:18] <mo0osah> hamadooo: idle as many channels as I do and you'll pick up fast :)
[09:18] <Daisuke_Ido> surgy: not me surgy
[09:18] <hamadooo> but here nothing ;/
[09:18] <intelikey> surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy surgy
[09:18] <intelikey> :)
[09:18] <Daisuke_Ido> hamadooo: the only way to learn is to continue using it
[09:19] <hamadooo> im trying but nithinf  usefull
[09:19] <intelikey> hamadooo yes exactly,  everything you knew in windows helps nothing in linux.  you have to first "unlearn" then learn the new os.
[09:19] <hamadooo> the terminal makes me feel like knowing nithing
[09:19] <intelikey> !cli | hamadooo
[09:19] <ubotu> hamadooo: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:19] <hamadooo> nothing
[09:20] <intelikey> http://tldp.org
[09:20] <hamadooo> everything here in terminal ...
[09:20] <hamadooo> so  hard ;/
[09:20] <intelikey> not hard,  just unknown to you as of yet
[09:21] <intelikey> yestergo i know nothing in linux
[09:21] <intelikey> today i use no GUI  only console
[09:21] <hamadooo> now this is my sec program i tryed to use ..... and i can't
[09:21] <hamadooo> frist one is kismet now john ripper
[09:21] <intelikey> hamadooo try    mc
[09:21] <intelikey> start with something simple
[09:22] <hamadooo> what is that mc
[09:22] <intelikey> !info mc
[09:22] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[09:22] <hamadooo> what i can use it for ?
[09:22] <intelikey> has built in editor
[09:23] <intelikey> use to browse filesystem   move copy delete edit rename files
[09:23] <hamadooo> so it will teach me the terminal ???? commands ?
[09:23] <hamadooo> ok
[09:23] <hamadooo> i'll download it now
[09:23] <mo0osah> hamadooo: for linux commands try http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[09:23] <intelikey> hamadooo as long as you run it as user and not as root   you can't hurt your linux system
[09:24] <intelikey> mo0osah i posted   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal   just a minute ago
[09:24] <hamadooo> is it gnome commander or it's diffrent ?
[09:24] <intelikey> has a few basics
[09:24] <intelikey> different
[09:25] <hamadooo> ok  i found it
[09:26] <hamadooo> now could you tell me where can i find it ?
[09:26] <intelikey> Package webmin is not available, but is referred to by another package.  <<<<<  ?
[09:26] <intelikey> command line.     type  mc
[09:28] <intelikey> well i have a working switch and also a crossover cable as well as plip    if i just had a "use" for a network
[09:28] <hamadooo> so i don't need to write in terminal anymore :)
[09:28] <intelikey> hamadooo it also supplies a command line,   at the bottom  you can still issue commands    example;   cd /
[09:29] <hamadooo> ok
[09:29] <intelikey> mc can do ftp also  iirc
[09:30] <intelikey> !info webmin
[09:30] <ubotu> Package webmin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:30] <intelikey> oh
[09:31] <intelikey> !info webmin dapper
[09:31] <ubotu> Package webmin does not exist in dapper
[09:31] <intelikey> hmmm
[09:32] <hamadooo> thanx guys :*
[09:33] <intelikey> you mean that's all he needed ???
[09:38] <Ick> how can i tell what filetype something is if it doesn't have a .xyz thingy?
[09:38] <mo0osah> Ick: it's just a file with no type associated with it
[09:39] <mo0osah> Ick: usually they are files with text in them
[09:42] <pag> Ick, command is: file /path/to/file
[09:42] <pag> Ick, but they usually are just plain-text files
[09:44] <intelikey> Ick why do you "need" to know what file type it is ?
[09:45] <intelikey> Ick   ls    normally has  --color=auto   and anything green    or on red background is executable
[09:47] <intelikey> Ick and even thing that aren't executable 'may' be executed   one example is the /home/dir and another is  ~/.bash_bashrc    (well dirs are executable so scratch that example)
[09:47] <intelikey> Ick  ?
[09:52] <mike__> Greets, everyone
[09:52] <pag> hi mike__ :)
[09:52] <Mo0oSaH> hey mike__
[09:53] <vzduch> aren't you Americans supposed to slowly go to bed? :D
[09:53] <mike__> I have no semblance of a sleep schedule :-P
[09:53] <intelikey> vzduch you kidding,  they run and jump into bed with anything... never mind
[09:53] <mike__> lol
[09:54] <Mo0oSaH> actually it's time for me to go to bed
[09:54] <Mo0oSaH> almost 3 a.m. here
[09:54] <intelikey> yeah my clock says -7:54
[09:54] <evilmm> 4am here
[09:55] <intelikey> yeah my clock says 07:54
[09:55] <vzduch> 2 hrs behind CEST.. where's that?
[09:55] <intelikey> top of the morning to you all
[09:55] <Mo0oSaH> intelikey: aren't you from Dallas TX?
[09:55] <intelikey> texas   i should think not
[09:56] <mike__> Does anyone know what might cause tab-completion to not work for apt-get (or anything following "$ sudo" for that matter)?
[09:56] <vzduch> only place I know w/ that timezone is Iceland
[09:56] <intelikey> only thing from dallas are steers and presidents
[09:56] <intelikey> did i really type that ?
[09:56] <intelikey> ooops.
[09:56] <Mo0oSaH> haha
[09:56] <vzduch> intelikey: or does your clock show UTC?
[09:57] <intelikey> vzduch it does,
[09:58] <vzduch> o0
[09:58] <pag> vzduch, iirc Iceland's timezone is the same as GB's  There's small part of Greenland with that timezone though
[09:59] <run_away_int> and let us not forget the contenant
[09:59] <vzduch> the what?
[09:59] <run_away_int> the Afar
[09:59] <vzduch> ?
[09:59] <Mo0oSaH> alright people,  night (morning?) all...
[10:00] <vzduch> 10 am her
[10:00] <vzduch> e
[10:00] <run_away_int> Mo0oSaH morning
[10:01] <Jalathan> is there any way to get glchess to display in 3d? i have the two requested libs installed
[10:01] <vzduch> sure you have 3D acceleration enabled?
[10:01] <Jalathan> i do but hmm...
[10:03] <run_away_int>  7. Add the line "net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1" to /etc/sysctl.conf
[10:03] <run_away_int> is /etc/sysctl.conf supposed to be there ?
[10:04] <run_away_int> it's blank ....
[10:04] <Jalathan> vzduch: ok, terminal's giving me no errors other than accessibility packages not being found
[10:04] <vzduch> what's your frame rate in glxgears?
[10:05] <mike__> Jalathan: Have you tried pouetChess? It looks a lot better, imho
[10:05] <hatter> how do you like that,  with no beryl my glxgears is 2000 fps, with beryl running , it drops to 600 fps
[10:06] <Jalathan> vzduch: it's pulling up an error that requests libgtkglext & python-opengl
[10:06] <vzduch> hehe
[10:06] <intelisky> hmmmm   /usr/sbin/ipmasq-kmod: 197: /sbin/lsmod: not found
[10:06] <Jalathan> i shall see about giving it a try mike__ thanks
[10:07] <intelisky> why do install scripts use static paths for things like that   lsmod is in /bin/  not /sbin/
[10:07] <hatter> cdrom should be automounting in kubuntu ?
[10:07] <mike__> np... there's also DreamChess (available at http://www.getdeb.net ) which might be worth checking out
[10:08] <vzduch> Jalathan: install libgtkglext1 and python-opengl
[10:09] <Jalathan> vzduch: i have them installed as already stated
[10:11] <reldruh> hi. I recently got a new package of blank DVD's that I'm trying to use with k3b but no matter how I try to burn them I always get the same error message ":-( media is not formatted or unsupported." Has anybody gotten this error and fixed it?
[10:12] <vzduch> sh*t happens.. I had 2 blank DL-DVDs left that K3b wouldn't see if inserted.. bought other DVD+Rs which work perfect
[10:13] <reldruh> that's a shame. I guess I'll have to go buy another package of the ones that have worked for me before
[10:13] <reldruh> it would be nice if there was a list somewhere of ones that work and ones that don't (Imation and JVC don't work for me, but tdk is fine)
[10:14] <vzduch> think it was Imation that my K3b didn't want
[10:14] <vzduch> no, it was Intenso
[10:15] <vzduch> Imation are the others, they worked like a charm :)
[10:15] <reldruh> figures it would be particular to eac computer :-)
[10:15] <reldruh> is there any way to find out what the error message actually means? There isn't a k3b irc room
[10:16] <vzduch> strange thing about the Intenso is: when I bought them (got to be 2 years back) they worked w/o a problem, those that I burned stuff on still do.. only these 2 blanks I had left over wouldn't work
[10:16] <vzduch> reldruh: look at the error log
[10:16] <vzduch> you have the option to be shown the output of wodim resp. growisofs
[10:17] <arun> Anyone here use Kate as an IDE?
[10:17] <intelisky> hmm imation used to make good floppy disks
[10:18] <reldruh> vzduch: is that the 'Show Debugging Output' button?
[10:18] <vzduch> iirc, yes
[10:18] <pag> arun, not really... But you could ask the question you have, maybe someone can help. Unless, of cource, you're just doing a survey ;)
[10:19] <arun> just a survey
[10:19] <arun> i love it
[10:19] <mike__> The brand of blank media you buy is usually irrelevant, as the company that sells it (Imation, Sony, Maxell, etc.) usually just has random other companies make it for them. I know for sure Ritek/Ridata actually makes their own
[10:20] <reldruh> vzduch: i get a list of commands, the last of which is labeled as the mkisofs command, but there's no output for it. The last thing in the terminal when I run it from there is 4 lines of '(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/scd0: GET CONFIGURATION length det failed.'
[10:20] <reldruh> arun: I use it, but only because getting kdevelop working was so much more of a headache than just running qmake from the built in terminal in kate
[10:21] <arun> i just love that you pretty much customise every bit of it, have multiple files open, and some of the built in shortcuts are cool as well
[10:23] <intelisky> can anyone tell me what order these three need to load in ?     ipmasq-kmod ipmasq dnsmasq  ?
[10:23] <vzduch> hmm.. no
[10:23] <intelisky> i'll take it to a stronger channel
[10:26] <alesan> hi I have transformed my ubuntu in a kubuntu installing KDE
[10:27] <alesan> how do I change the resolution of the screen on the fly?
[10:27] <mike__> alesan: System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[10:27] <intelisky> system settings screen rez ?
[10:28] <pag> alesan, ctrl+alt+'+' or ctrl+alt+'-' ?
[10:28] <Jalathan> pag: TY!
[10:28] <pag> np :)
[10:30] <pag> Jalathan, that only works with resos defined in xorg.conf iirc, so don't place too high hopes on it ;)
[10:30] <Jalathan> i know, but some situations call for shortcuts
[10:34] <arun> whoa pag, neat!
[10:34] <arun> i didnt know that shortcut
[10:34] <arun> i've disabled all resolutions below 1440x900, but thanks anyway
[10:37] <mike__> Has anyone here used Kommander?
[10:39] <vzduch> never heard of
[10:40] <pag> !info kommander
[10:40] <ubotu> kommander: visual dialog builder and executor tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3800 kB
[10:41] <pag> sounds like a programm I wouldn't ever need :-/ I didn't even understand what does it do
[10:41] <vzduch> developer stuff.. I don't develop, so I don't need it :>
[10:42] <mike__> I *think* it's for building GUI-based applications around whatever commands you are already familiar with and want to implement into it
[10:43] <Jalathan> hmm
[10:43] <mike__> *it=the GUI-based application
[10:43] <Jalathan> i have it installed, shall check out the help file
[10:43] <intelisky> folks in #debian sure can be pricks     even worse than me.
[10:44] <Jalathan> "Kommander was originally designed around a simple concept that has proven somewhat revolutionairy among visual design tools. Typically these tools allow you to create dialogs and possibly mainwindow interfaces."
[10:44] <vzduch> intelisky: nothing new here
[10:45] <intelisky> vzduch wasn't actually a refferance to you...   :")
[10:46] <vzduch> intelisky: I mean ppl in ##debian being pricks..
[10:46] <Jalathan> "So what can Kommander do? Here is the list distilled to the base operations. Kommander can: 1) Pass strings to the calling program via stdout. 2) Call executable programs. 3) Use DCOP to interact with KDE programs."
[10:46] <Jalathan> so mike__ is right
[10:46] <mohammad> hello to all
[10:46] <kirke> hello, somebody knows how to modify 'resolv.conf" PERMANTENTLY?
[10:47] <mohammad> resolv.conf is a file to config modem
[10:47] <mike__> seems like a pretty interesting program. i'm starting work on an alternative to Automatix and am thinking of using Kommander to make its frontend
[10:48] <alesan> mike__, it seems I have no such menu entry.
[10:48] <Jalathan> g'night all.  thanks for pointing out pouetChess out to me mike__, is proving to be quite fun from the first impression
[10:48] <kirke> mohammad, I'm trying to connect to internet permanently, and I need to add the DNS to 'resolv.conf'
[10:48] <alesan> mybe because this was a ubuntu and I installed KDE later
[10:48] <mike__> Jalathan: np
[10:48] <mohammad> in this method
[10:48] <mike__> alesan: Yeah, it's not installed by default. "sudo apt-get install kommander" if you want to check it out
[10:49] <mohammad> u can write your dsn ip address in to resolv.conf
[10:49] <alesan> it is already installed
[10:49] <mike__> alesan: And it's not under KMenu -> Development?
[10:49] <alesan> (remember I am talking about the screen resolution thing)
[10:50] <mike__> alesan: Ohh, sorry. Thought you were talking about Kommander. Heh
[10:50] <alesan> mike__, :) don't mind
[10:50] <mike__> alesan: What package did you install to get KDE?
[10:51] <alesan> welll I guess "kde"
[10:51] <alesan> but to be honest I am not 100% sure :)
[10:51] <mike__> I think the one you need is "kubuntu-desktop"
[10:52] <alesan> the problem's that my monitor is 1600x1200 but xorg keeps this strange resolution like 1400x1050 or such
[10:52] <mike__> alesan: What I'd do if I were you is go into you're Gnome session and run these two commands, assuming you just installed the package called "kde" (you can check History in Synaptic if you're not sure)
[10:52] <mike__> alesan: "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge kde" "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[10:52] <alesan> mike ok
[10:53] <mike__> alesan: Can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[10:54] <alesan> mike__, sure. give me a second :)
[10:55] <mohammad> i have a problem in config squid
[10:55] <alesan> http://www.pastebin.ca/627367
[10:55] <mohammad> i don't now to restart dimon
[10:56] <mohammad> any body help to me
[10:56] <pag> mohammad, mm? sudo /etc/init.d/squid restert  ?
[10:56] <pag> restart that is
[10:56] <mohammad> ok
[10:57] <mohammad> tanx pag
[10:57] <mike__> alesan: Hmm... And what happened when you tried the shortcut pag suggested?
[10:58] <alesan> nothing. to be honest I didn't use that shorcut since the good old times with slackware 2.0 :) but now it produces absolutely nothing
[10:59] <alesan> mike__, don't mind, I'll have that xorg.conf revised and updated :)
[11:00] <alesan> right now I just wanted to see if the KDE applet was able to change res on the fly.
[11:00] <alesan> I will install the propoer desktop as you suggested.
[11:00] <mike__> alesan: And you are using the -/+ keys on the keypad, right?
[11:00] <mike__> Oh, nevermind. Makes sense they're not doing anything since you've only got one res. in your xorg.conf
[11:01] <alesan> mike__, :)
[11:02] <mohammad> u can use <sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg>
[11:02] <mohammad> and config your mointor resoloution
[11:03] <alesan> mohammad, well that tool is not very useful in my opinion. too many questions :) X -configure is a much clever tool :)
[11:04] <mohammad> no
[11:04] <mohammad> this tools is very useful
[11:04] <mohammad> u can config your monitor
[11:05] <ADiCT3D> Can someone tell me where my audio device is located in /dev? I'm trying to get sound to work on VMWare its trying to use /dev/dsp but is not working.
[11:05] <alesan> mohammad, not in my opinion
[11:06] <alesan> ok see you later thank you
[11:06] <mohammad> what
[11:06] <mohammad> what is your opinion
[11:06] <mohammad> ?
[11:06] <vituocgia> hi
[11:06] <stephen_> lol
[11:06] <mike__> later
[11:07] <ubuntu> hi guys
[11:07] <mike__> hey
[11:07] <ADiCT3D> ubuntu: From italy i do assume?
[11:09] <mohammad> see u later
[11:09] <mohammad> bye
[11:09] <ADiCT3D> Can someone tell me where my audio device is located in /dev? I'm trying to get sound to work on VMWare its trying to use /dev/dsp but is not working.
[11:14] <mimik> anyone know where i can get a spam filter script for xchat?
[11:15] <vzduch> ?
[11:15] <pag> mimik, doesn't xchat's webpage have scripts?
[11:16] <vzduch> what spam do you want to filter?
[11:16] <mimik> ill go check xchat's webpage thanks
[11:19] <vzduch> if you get molested by spambots, report them to the channel ops
[11:20] <arun> ADiCT3D: i'm sure there is an easier way to enable sound
[11:20] <arun> in vmware
[11:26] <vzduch> seems like TeXLive has an unresolved dependency
[11:26] <ubunturos> will packages from Debian DVDs work on Kubuntu 6.06?
[11:26] <ubunturos> (.deb files)
[11:27] <vzduch> probably.. but try not to use them if possible
[11:28] <ubunturos> vzduch: compatibility issues?
[11:29] <vzduch> you'll most likely run into unmet dependencies
[11:30] <ubunturos> vzduch: but then, if those dependencies are available in the DVD, it won't be a problem, right?
[11:31] <pag> ubunturos, you see.. depencies have depencies... and so on ;) eventually it'll either mess up your system, or you'll have a debian instead of ubuntu :)
[11:31] <pag> ubunturos, the first option is far more likely
[11:31] <ubunturos> pag: ah, I see
[11:51] <Ice9> hello
[11:51] <Ice9> anybody in here a webcam expert?
[11:53] <Lynoure> Ice9: it's really hard to be a general webcam expert as webcams are so varied
[11:54] <Ice9> Well, how about getting a logitech quickcam communicate working on ubuntu
[11:55] <kernco> I have Kubuntu 7.04 installed, which has kde 3.5.6.  Is there a way to upgrade to 3.5.7 easily?
[11:55] <pag> kernco, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[11:56] <felix_> help please. i want to change the resolution of my display. my video card is a geforce nvidia
[11:56] <kernco> felix_, open the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  If you scroll through the file, you will see a place where resolutions are listed
[11:56] <kernco> just add what you need to it
[11:57] <felix_> kernco: thanks. i will try that one now.
[11:57] <kernco> Err, that's if the resolution isn't already listed.  Did you try changing it through the KDE settings already?
[11:58] <felix_> kernco: yes but the max is 800x600 only.
[11:58] <kernco> ok, then go ahead with what I said before
[11:58] <felix_> kernco: thanks
[12:01] <felix_> kernco: can i change the setting or add another line on the file?
[12:04] <kernco> felix_: Find the section with a line for each color depth that looks like "800x600" "640x480" etc., and then add your new resolution(s) to the beginning, so just put "1280x1024" or "1024x768" or whatever at the beginning of the line
[12:05] <felix_> kernco: i tried to modify but i can't save the file.
[12:06] <kernco> You have to use sudo to edit it.  If you're using kate, you can open a terminal and type "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:06] <felix_> kernco: thanks, sorry, just a beginner here. thanks a lot for your help.
[12:06] <kernco> no problem
[12:06] <felix_> i will now try to edit thru sudo
[12:07] <Ice9> Anybody know how to get a logitech quickcam communicate running?
[12:08] <pansapiens> I fiddled around to get my Quickcam Chat working a few months back
[12:09] <Ice9> Please! Teach me your ways.
[12:09] <pansapiens> ultimately, adding the gspca driver to /etc/modules made it work
[12:09] <pansapiens> you can test if it will work by typing $ sudo modprobe gspca
[12:10] <pansapiens> in a terminal
[12:10] <pansapiens> then run something like gqcam
[12:11] <pansapiens> to test it. if it say's "/dev/video: No such file or directory" .. then it isn't working, and I can't help much more beyond there
[12:11] <Ice9> curses! Thats what it says
[12:14] <wers> will kubuntu bugs be fixed if I uninstall kubuntu and just have kde core installed instead?
[12:14] <kalman> hi all
[12:15] <kalman> I'm downloading and wish to install the Tribe 3 CD
[12:16] <kalman> when Kubuntu Gutsy is out in his final version, am I able to upgrade to it or I have to install it from scratch ?
[12:17] <pag> kalman, if you install tribe, than all upgrades will come to you seamlessly, and you won't even notice the final releace
[12:17] <kalman> ok that is what I was hoping for
[12:18] <pag> kalman,but just as a warning; your system probably won't survive that long ;) Gutsy is testing, so any upgrade can brak your system
[12:18] <Ice9> Now when I'm typing gqcam, its says Permission Denied
[12:18] <kalman> I have currently installed Kubuntu Feisty, is there a way to upgrade to Gutsy without reinstall all ?
[12:18] <pag> kalman, sure... cange every feisty to gutsy in sources.list and upgrade
[12:18] <pag> change even
[12:19] <kalman> and in case I screw up all I will install it from Cd :-D
[12:20] <kalman> I'll backup my home first
[12:20] <pansapiens> Ice9: the source of the gspca driver I have here (gspcav1-20070110) claims to support the "Logitech QuickCam Communicate STX" ..
[12:20] <pag> kalman, yup... backups are *very* good idea :)
[12:20] <pansapiens> Ice9: it is the same version that is in the 2.6.20-16 kernel ... so that should be the right driver ...
[12:21] <riri> where is the channel for gutsy ?
[12:21] <pansapiens> Ice9: hmm, what are the permissions/owners of /dev/video
[12:22] <kmh> how can i install wone-doors?
[12:22] <kmh> wine-doors
[12:22] <pag> riri, #ubuntu+1
[12:22] <riri> thanks
[12:24] <stephen_> OMG
[12:24] <stephen_> theres a flood outside
[12:24] <kmh> how can i give a program root rights
[12:24] <kmh> ?
[12:24] <pag> kmh, sudo
[12:25] <kmh> than?
[12:25] <Ice9> hey Pansapiens, easy fix! After I installed the drivers, I guess all I needed was a restart! Thanks buddy
[12:25] <kalman> kmh you mean permanently or running it as root ?
[12:25] <kmh> running it as root
[12:25] <kalman> sudo <your program>
[12:25] <pansapiens> Ice9: nice ! cool that it's working !! :)
[12:25] <kmh> k
[12:26] <Ice9> yep, thanks for your help
[12:26] <pansapiens> no problem. nothing like a reboot :) (gee .. feels like the old days of Windows :) )
[12:26] <Ice9> seriously lol
[12:27] <kalman> thank you for your help for now, logging out X to make a back
[12:27] <kalman> backup*
[12:27] <ScarFreewill> amarok is crashing a lot it just started about 10min ago it just keeps crashing randomly, well actually usualy when it goes on to a next song or gets paused and resumed... it just now froze my keyboard!
[12:28] <ScarFreewill> amarok has never crashed before....
[12:29] <ScarFreewill> I've been using this installation since the day feisty came out, I've not installed anything wierd that may have caused amarok to act like this, I'm also not running anything else that uses the sound driver
[12:30] <ScarFreewill> !info xlib
[12:30] <ubotu> Package xlib does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:44] <kmh> i installed a program with wine, how can i open it?
[12:45] <pag> kmh, wine /path&to/programm.exe
[12:45] <kmh> don know the path
[12:46] <vzduch> omg
[12:46] <pag> kmh, probably ~/.wine/drive_c/...
[12:46] <kmh> k
[12:46] <pag> kmh, further it depends on the programm
[12:47] <logixoul> Hi guys. Trying to install Feisty on a DT miniPC. Installation went fine till about 92% then the window just disappeared. When I rebooted, I was booted directly into Windows rather than the GRUB menu. Any hints please?
[12:48] <logixoul> damn, I hate it when shit happens when I'm first showing Linux to someone ;(
[12:50] <dainanaki> lol
[12:50] <dainanaki> well kubuntu stuff typically is slightly unstable for me, so that wouldn't surprise me much
[12:54] <Riyoxke> configure: error: Your libstdc++ doesn't have the sstream or strstream classes
[12:54] <logixoul> try googling the error
[12:55] <Riyoxke> been there done that
[12:55] <Riyoxke> !fgi
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fgi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <redbaron> Hi:-)
[12:58] <wers> can anyone here tell me how to configure opensync for kubuntu feisty?
[01:03] <dainanaki> no idea
[01:05] <wers> anyone here successfully synced a pocket pc with kubuntu feisty?
[01:21] <olafur> how do I install bin files in Ubuntu
[01:22] <Dragnslcr> Usually by running them
[01:22] <olafur> I get error when I try
[01:23] <olafur> No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file.
[01:23] <olafur> get this message when I double click the file
[01:24] <snow> witam, jest ktos moze? :)
[01:27] <kaslepro> can someone please tell me how to install my bcm43xx network card? please take it slow... i'm a newbie
[01:28] <vzduch> !bcm43xx
[01:28] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[01:28] <kaslepro> i don't understand what i shuld do next...
[01:29] <kaslepro> how do i get  fw-cutter?
[01:35] <titanix88> hello
[01:37] <titanix88> whazz up?
[01:38] <titanix88> everyone silent!
[01:38] <dainanaki_> nuthin
[01:38] <embrik> Tried to install bcm43xx-fwcutter and go this error message: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1). This error shows every time I use apt-get install. How do I fix it? Thought I copuld write apt-get install -f
[01:39] <vzduch> embrik: by using sudo apt-get install
[01:39] <embrik> vzduch: The same message appeared
[01:39] <titanix88> em
[01:40] <dainanaki_> it kind of acts like either dpkg is messed up or else that package is
[01:40] <titanix88> sorry!
[01:40] <dainanaki_> see if any other packages do the same thing
[01:40] <vzduch> there has to be more than this 1 line
[01:42] <wers> anyone here succesfuly configured opensync?
[01:42] <wers> !opensync
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opensync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <titanix88> does anyone know mesa7.0 released?
[01:44] <ronaldo_> why mesa?
[01:45] <kaslepro> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty
[01:48] <wers> if I reboot, will my downloads in KGet continue?
[01:50] <jussi01> wers: did you use  the -c switch?
[01:50] <FSHero> Hello, everyone: What is the best way to share files and folders between two Kubuntu computurs?
[01:50] <jussi01> !nfs
[01:50] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:51] <wers> jussi01, what is the -c switch?
[01:52] <jussi01> wers: Im not certain about kget, but with wget yo can use wget -c for continuing. see "man kget" for more info
[01:52] <FSHero> jussi01: thanks. But I was hoping for something GUI-based.
[01:53] <FSHero> I went to System Settings -> Sharing and added my home directory to be shared by NFS. But I cannot seem to access it on my other computer.
[01:57] <FSHero> (when I type the former's IP address in Konqueror)
[01:57] <FSHero> I assume that to share files between Windows and Kubuntu, you use Samba?
[01:57] <FSHero> !samba
[01:57] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:09] <titanix88> what do u think of linux as a gaming platform?
[02:09] <progress0r> having some problems with my fonts, they look ok but i remember them being better than this. I have enabled subpixel rendering but still its pretty poor. im wondering if its the gtk or bitmap fonts, now sure.
[02:10] <titanix88> progressOr:sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[02:12] <progress0r> i did that
[02:13] <progress0r> maybe im expecting too much :)
[02:13] <titanix88> prog: don't use bitmap.
[02:15] <logixoul> Hi. Trying to install Feisty. The installer window suddenly disappeared at like 95%. Rebooting shows that GRUB isn't installed (I'm thrown into Windows). The installed Kubuntu partition doesn't have a grub/ dir under /boot, so I can't even install grub manually, it seems.
[02:15] <logixoul> Any hints please?
[02:15] <titanix88> fonts are far better than win in ubuntu.
[02:15] <titanix88> fonts are far better than win in ubuntu.
[02:16] <progress0r> titanix88: thanks, i did disable bitmap fonts at first. I can then say definitely something isnt right as my windows fonts are horribly better than these.
[02:17] <titanix88> logixowl install again;)
[02:19] <logixoul> titanix88: ok. Btw, like 1 minute after the installer disappeared, a console appeared on screen and I got a list of errors about squashfs. Any idea about that?
[02:20] <titanix88> progressOr:use freetype.
[02:20] <titanix88> progressOr:use freetype.
[02:23] (vzduch/#kubuntu) then don't use kwrite.. in a terminal use a CLI text editor (nano, joe etc.); if you want a KDE program to run as root use kdesu
[02:23] (vzduch/#kubuntu) (and iiac, kwrite is not installed by default)
[02:23] (araizen/#kubuntu) ah kdesu kwrite works
[02:23] (araizen/#kubuntu) in the terminal
[02:23] (araizen/#kubuntu) even
[02:24] (logixoul/#kubuntu) actually kwrite is supposed to work with both kdesu and sudo, but oh well ;)
[02:24] <araizen> okay, so i just installed a clean system
[02:24] <vzduch> logixoul: maybe, but make it clean & don't even start mixing things up :)
[02:24] <araizen> i installed synaptic and then told it to mark all upgrades and install them
[02:24] <araizen> that gives me an updated system, right?
[02:25] <vzduch> araizen: as far as the sources you have enabled are concerned, yes
[02:25] <araizen> great, thanks
[02:25] <titanix88> ariazen sudo will not work only if u deny to give a pass:/
[02:26] <logixoul> araizen: note that this generally will get you only security and critical updates, AFAICS
[02:26] <araizen> is there a way to automatically update all updated packages?
[02:27] <patrick__> Hello =)
[02:27] <araizen> hi patrick
[02:27] <logixoul> araizen: just look for a red ball icon in the systray, if it is there then click it
[02:27] <araizen> logixoul: if it's not there, everything's already updated?
[02:28] <patrick__> hmm trying kubuntu 7.10, its nice =)
[02:28] <logixoul> araizen: I believe so
[02:28] <tfreire> the green ball menas you are good to go.
[02:29] <araizen> does that include non-critical updates?
[02:29] <vzduch> usually not
[02:29] <vzduch> for that you need to enable backports
[02:29] <titanix88> there is a lot of discuss going on digg about releasing steam for linux.w do u think?
[02:29] <araizen> well, is there some way to install non-critical updates automatically?
[02:29] <araizen> just enable backports?
[02:29] <vzduch> titanix88: doesn't touch me, I don't play
[02:30] <vzduch> araizen: universe and multiverse for more software, official but not supported.. backports for (mostly) current versions
[02:31] <titanix88> vzduch: with upcoming opengl's i think linux have a chance to grip.
[02:31] <araizen> so if i enable backports and then tell synaptic to mark all upgrades and install them, i'll get the latest versions (mostly)?
[02:31] <araizen> are new versions not put into universe and multiverse?
[02:33] <titanix88> anyway steam is not for linux.
[02:36] <titanix88> #ubuntu does not stop for a moment but #kubuntu is cold like ice.
[02:36] <titanix88> #ubuntu does not stop for a moment but #kubuntu is cold like ice.
[02:37] <genii> It gets busy here too, just not right now :)
[02:37] <KaslePro> i've got an error message on my terminal.. how do i delete it?
[02:38] <genii> KaslePro: What does it say?
[02:39] <KaslePro> genii: i'm trying to install bcm43xx, but an error message occupears
[02:39] <genii> KaslePro: What are the contents of the error message?
[02:40] <KaslePro> genii: the whole message is: Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by bcm43xx-fwcutter.
[02:40] <KaslePro> This file has an unknown MD5sum 0c5ffe204a083fcdf623aa47acfefcbd.
[02:40] <KaslePro> dpkg: Feil ved behandling av bcm43xx-fwcutter (--configure):
[02:40] <KaslePro>  underprosessen post-installation script returnerte feilstatus 255
[02:40] <KaslePro> Det oppsto feil ved behandling av:
[02:40] <KaslePro>  bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:40] <KaslePro> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:41] <genii> OK
[02:41] <KaslePro> genii: do u know what to do?
[02:41] <vzduch> !enter | KaslePro
[02:41] <ubotu> KaslePro: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:42] <vzduch> did you apt-get update before installing?
[02:42] <genii> KaslePro: The package manager doesn't like the package you are trying to install, it is saying the checksum is bad or unknown
[02:42] <KaslePro> no
[02:42] <KaslePro> ok
[02:42] <KaslePro> genii: how do i install it then?
[02:42] <vzduch> that might be the problem.. your database is outdated and the MD5 sum has changed in the meantime
[02:43] <vzduch> try sudo apt-get update first, then install again
[02:43] <genii> KaslePro: You should update the apt-get as vzduch indicates, then try to install it again.
[02:43] <KaslePro> ok... thanks!=)
[02:44] <bop> hello
[02:44] <KaslePro> tha same message occupears
[02:45] <KaslePro> i wrote sudo apt-get update, the terminal updated and then i tried to install...
[02:46] <genii> KaslePro: Did you add some non-standard sites into your list of repositories?
[02:47] <KaslePro> genii:  what do u mean? i'm a newbie
[02:47] <tatters> do I use same procedure to upgrade kubuntu to gutsy as one would Ubuntu
[02:47] <genii> KaslePro: I'll take that to mean no :)
[02:48] <tatters> !gutsy
[02:48] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[02:49] <KaslePro> genii: sorry... i'm a newbie, but can u explain to me how to remove the error message easly?
[02:49] <genii> KaslePro: Since it is failing on the --configure part, it may be you have not yet downloaded the firmware which it is looking for (to cut)
[02:50] <KaslePro> genii: how do i do that?
[02:50] <genii> KaslePro: The answer to removing the error message is to find the cause of it and to correct that
[02:50] <genii> KaslePro: I am looking for a good how-to for you right now.
[02:51] <KaslePro> genii: thanks a lot=)
[02:51] <benpicco> Hi, where to get an microphone amplifier?
[02:51] <benpicco> I cant ind an option in kmix
[02:52] <benpicco> but my mic needs to be amplified by software
[02:52] <vzduch> benpicco: Mic Boost
[02:54] <benpicco> is this a package?
[02:54] <vzduch> no, it's a switch, present (for me) in both KMix and alsamixer
[02:55] <benpicco> well, here its not present..
[02:56] <bop> can anyon help me , im trying to install nvidia driver under kububtu feisty , it tells me it needs the libc header files , install libc devel packages , but i cant find it in adept
[02:56] <genii> KaslePro Here is one, you don't need step 5, this in not for Kubuntu but regular Ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[02:57] <tfreire> is there an irc channel specific for gutsy?
[02:57] <vzduch> tfreire: #ubuntu+1
[02:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[02:58] <vzduch> bop: install from the repos, nomally there's no need to mess w/ the installer from the Nvidia page
[02:58] <tfreire> is there a separate one for kubuntu gutsy?
[02:58] <BluesKaj> thanks genii :)
[02:58] <KaslePro> genii:  thanks
[02:59] <bop> i tried to do that , and now im stuck in 640x480
[02:59] <genii> KaslePro: If you find issues, return here for more assistance :)
[02:59] <genii> BluesKaj:  :)
[03:00] <genii> bah, work. AFK a bit
[03:01] <vzduch> question: what was the name of the Gnome 'version' of Amarok again?
[03:01] <BluesKaj> gnamarok?
[03:02] <BluesKaj> j/k
[03:02] <vzduch> it was Exaile
[03:12] <vzduch> bop: installing from Nvidia directly is not likely to solve that problem.. after installation you first have to reconfigure your xorg.conf
[03:13] <vzduch> when installing the driver from Nvidia in openSUSE I too started off w/ 800x600
[03:13] <vzduch> same on Kubuntu w/ the pkg
[03:14] <z_wlan0> hey, question: how to do pipe command to konsole from run window?
[03:14] <z_wlan0> like open xterm, and run command in xterm
[03:14] <genii> z_wlan0: Better off to just run the command in a konsole to start with
[03:14] <BluesKaj> vzduch, that seems to be the default res with the vesa pnp drivers after a clean install
[03:15] <bop> im running the nvidia driver i found in adept , 1024x768 now
[03:15] <bop> think my monitor might have something to do with it
[03:15] <z_wlan0> if i could i would
[03:15] <genii> z_wlan0:  what is the command you are using?
[03:16] <z_wlan0> nmblookup
[03:17] <genii> That runs in my konsole fine
[03:18] <z_wlan0> i know, i want to do this[ konsole; then nmblookup inside konsole ]  in one action
[03:19] <genii> z_wlan0: Make a new shortcut on desktop with that command and have it run in a terminal
[03:20] <strabes> z_wlan0: if you put "&&
[03:20] <z_wlan0> nvm, i got it; [ konsole --noclose -e nmblookup ] 
[03:21] <strabes> z_wlan0: if you put "&&" in between commands you can run them right after one another
[03:21] <strabes> like "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade"
[03:21] <z_wlan0> but look at what i want to do? run the example i just showed
[03:22] <strabes> z_wlan0: oh, yeah you'll have to use alt+f2 or make a shortcut on your desktop or something
[03:22] <z_wlan0> yea, thats wat i meant by "run window" alt+f2
[03:23] <genii> work, AFK
[03:24] <z_wlan0> thanx
[03:25] <z_wlan0> later
[03:40] <mikkael> is there a easy way to get all settings made by "kubuntu-default-settings" applied again after having changed ~everything on these settings ;) ?
[03:41] <KaslePro> can someone please tell me how to install limewire? i'm a newbie...
[03:41] <mikkael> limewire is a windows program
[03:42] <KaslePro> no
[03:42] <KaslePro> limewire works with linux
[03:42] <Guest239> My router died D:
[03:42] <KaslePro> just go to www.limewire.com and see for urself
[03:42] <mikkael> yes sorry, didnt know they got a linux client
[03:42] <Guest239> Any answer to Solidays's question?
[03:43] <KaslePro> ok
[03:43] <KaslePro> can someone please tell me how to install limewire? i'm a newbie...
[03:43] <mikkael> uh its arpm
[03:43] <pag> !limewire
[03:43] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[03:45] <vzduch> KaslePro: install frostwire
[03:47] <KaslePro> vzduch:  what's frostwire?
[03:48] <Guest239> !FrostWire
[03:48] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:49] <Solidays> I guess there's no help for my problem then? :(
[03:49] <vzduch> frostwire can be obtained as a .deb from the Automatix repo
[03:51] <vzduch> Solidays: repeat your question please, I don't find it back
[03:52] <Solidays> I'm using an old machine that doesn't have ethernet or WiFi. My router allows me to connect to it through USB. This works on Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn but not Kubuntu Fiesty Fawn
[03:52] <Solidays> I'm trying to work out what I need from Ubuntu to make Kubuntu work
[03:52] <Solidays> I was wondering if there's a list that I can compare to find out the package differences between the distributions somewhere
[03:53] <vzduch> guess that'd be a helluva search job
[03:54] <Solidays> Well without the driver/package I can't connect to the internet on the machine
[03:54] <vzduch> otoh, a router is supposed to get connected to the network via Ethernet, not via USB
[03:55] <Solidays> Hold on
[03:55] <Solidays> http://www.frequencycast.co.uk/homehub.html
[03:56] <Solidays> ctrl+f "USB ports"
[03:56] <Solidays> "You can use the USB-B port to connect directly to a PC. You need special Home Hub USB drivers available from BT."
[03:57] <vzduch> o0
[03:57] <Solidays> Now I don't know if BT provides Linux versions but Ubuntu certainly supports it
[03:58] <vzduch> .oO( crazy Brits.. )                                 :D
[03:59] <Solidays> vzduch XD
[03:59] <Solidays> It definitely works
[03:59] <Solidays> I had it working in Ubuntu earlier from install
[03:59] <Solidays> But it seems Kubuntu doesn't come with it
[03:59] <Solidays> Which is why I need to find out what it is and add it
[04:01] <wietse_> hiya
[04:01] <wietse_> anyone know how i can create a zip file?
[04:01] <wietse_> i'm using kubuntu/dapper
[04:05] <KaslePro> how do i install frost wire any one?
[04:05] <KaslePro> i'm a newbie
[04:05] <crdlb> !frostwire
[04:05] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:05] <KaslePro> crdlb:  what do you mean?
[04:06] <crdlb> follow the link :)
[04:07] <KaslePro> crdlb: i've tried, but i didn't understand
[04:08] <vzduch> KaslePro: sorry to say so, but that's a no-brainer
[04:08] <KaslePro> vzduch: you call me a no brainer?
[04:08] <vzduch> KaslePro: no, the instruction is a no-brainer
[04:09] <vzduch> first install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre, then download the .deb and install it
[04:09] <KaslePro> vzduch: ok...thanks=)
[04:20] <shad-99> anyone know about apache2 and ssl in feisty fawn, why im not allowed to get self certificate -day 365?
[04:21] <shad-99> witch i got in dapper drake with easy when i installed apache2 ?
[04:22] <burnclouds> every time i try to run the brand new firefox 2.0.0.5 i get a segfault
[04:22] <KaslePro> vzduch: i downloaded frostwire..... but i couldn't save it.. "if saving you wil have a corrupted file"
[04:22] <burnclouds> every time i try to run the brand new firefox 2.0.0.5 i get a segfault
[04:23] <burnclouds> is the package broken?
[04:24] <burnclouds> is the new firefox package bad?
[04:24] <dobo> is the java6bin package broken? after i install it things go downhill
[04:24] <burnclouds> i run java6 with no problems
[04:24] <dobo> hm
[04:24] <dobo> that's odd!
[04:25] <dobo> i run firefox2 with no problems
[04:25] <burnclouds> have you upgraded firefox to 2.0.0.5
[04:25] <burnclouds> or are you using 2.0.0.4
[04:25] <dobo> i just reinstalled kubuntu today, so whatever's current on the repositories
[04:26] <dobo> it 0.5
[04:26] <burnclouds> hurm
[04:26] <burnclouds> i just did the upgrade today and now i get a segfault
[04:27] <burnclouds> i'm actually running firefox 0.8 as well as 3.0a6 and all is well there
[04:27] <burnclouds> and 2.0.0.4 worked and 2.0.0.5 is faulty
[04:28] <titanix88> hello!
[04:28] <dobo> :(
[04:28] <burnclouds> hi
[04:28] <titanix88> dobo:why sad?
[04:28] <burnclouds> have you had any issues with FF 2.0.0.5
[04:29] <dobo> i am mourning burnclouds' ff
[04:30] <titanix88> i heard it is a security update about remote code execution etc.
[04:30] <burnclouds> meh i'll just use FF0.8 it's faster sleaker anyway
[04:31] <burnclouds> are there any actual support people on here?
[04:31] <titanix88> why u r so enthusiastic abt ff?konq is better.
[04:31] <burnclouds> I have a few extension i like for FF
[04:32] <mikkael> konq is so slow for me
[04:32] <burnclouds> i agree
[04:33] <mikkael> i tried to disable ipv6 stuff but its the same
[04:33] <mikkael> but only on some sites, others are very fast
[04:33] <burnclouds> does any one actually use IPv6?
[04:34] <titanix88> burnscloud: canonical does not put employees here.u will have to buy that kind of support.
[04:34] <titanix88> burnscloud: canonical does not put employees here.u will have to buy that kind of support.
[04:34] <burnclouds> i see
[04:35] <burnclouds> burnclouds@strider:~$ firefox
[04:35] <burnclouds> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:35] <pag> burnclouds, try reinstalling FF, there might have been some glitch during the update
[04:35] <titanix88> btw serious linux guru's kind of avoid ubuntu.
[04:36] <burnclouds> I use puredebian alot
[04:36] <burnclouds> FF magically works now?!?!
[04:36] <burnclouds> i must have activated a resurve of magic smoke
[04:37] <titanix88> f f is slow.
[04:37] <titanix88> f f is slow.
[04:37] <burnclouds> konq is slower
[04:37] <Lynoure> titanix88: try disabling ipv6, if you don't use it?
[04:37] <mikkael> i dont care about serious linux gurus
[04:37] <burnclouds> i usually use FF0.8 which is blazing fast
[04:37] <titanix88> but konq is the king of cache.
[04:38] <burnclouds> cache is bad for a web developer
[04:38] <burnclouds> :-P
[04:38] <burnclouds> well with FF 2.0.0.5 working now i'm out of here
[04:38] <burnclouds> see ya's
[04:39] <titanix88> lynoure:i did not ask anything!?!
[04:40] <Lynoure> titanix88: sorry for trying to help, then. :(
[04:40] <pag> titanix88, so if you don't ask, the giving helpful advices is strictly forbitten? ;)
[04:40] <titanix88> lol
[04:40] <titanix88> lol
[04:41] <dobo> Dobo bleibt zu Hause!
[04:41] <pag> !de | dobo
[04:41] <ubotu> dobo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:42] <dobo> danke
[04:42] <pag> bitte
[04:43] <titanix88> stop whatever u r saying.it's giving me a headache.!
[04:43] <titanix88> stop whatever u r saying.it's giving me a headache.!
[04:44] <ksivaji> In short, open source software is not "free  http://wistechnology.com/article.php?id=4064
[04:44] <tech404> I am switching my servers from Debian Stable to Ubuntu server in the next couple of days... could anyone give me so good info? I have been using kubuntu for some time on my desktop
[04:45] <titanix88> ksivaji:i argue opposite
[04:45] <ksivaji> titanix88 http://wistechnology.com/article.php?id=4064
[04:46] <dobo> i have a problem with adept: after i install java5 packages it says it cannot commit changes because packages would break
[04:46] <dobo> then it exits
[04:46] <dobo> and after that
[04:46] <dobo> i cannot use adept because it says another instance is running!
[04:46] <pag> tech404, "don't do it!!" :P  tbh I don't see any point of moving from Debian to Ubuntu on servers, since there, the stability should be more important than shinyness
[04:46] <pag> !apt-fix | dobo
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <pag> !aptfix | dobo
[04:46] <ubotu> dobo: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:47] <dobo> thank you!
[04:47] <titanix88> dobo: kill other instance from ksysgaurd
[04:49] <titanix88> flooeing with peopke but no talk
[04:51] <tech404> pag: thanks... i have been considering that but I had never worked with server and wanted to try it... non mission critical
[04:51] <pag> tech404, if it isn't critical, then Ubuntu might be an easier solution :)
[04:52] <tech404> well I already have debian in place and I know it well, it was really for experimentation
[04:52] <tech404> i think I will just set up a test box
[04:56] <eyedol59> I am about to get a X2 cpu and I want to know if Kubuntu is prepare to use the CPU as a dual core. can anybody help me?
[04:56] <SlimeyPete> yes, it is.
[04:59] <eyedol59> Now I am running Kubuntu 7.04 (i386 version) on a A64 3000 754, Which version of Kubuntu do I need to use it with de X2?
[04:59] <warrior-wizard> salut tout le monde ^
[04:59] <genii> I have extended work to do so logging off but back in 2-3 hours ... later
[04:59] <SlimeyPete> eyedol59: the sameversion
[04:59] <SlimeyPete> 7.04 uses an SMP kernel by default so it will use both cores
[05:00] <pag> !fr | warrior-wizard
[05:00] <ubotu> warrior-wizard: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:01] <eyedol59> But using the same version will let me use de two cores or the system will work as it where just a single core. I mean, one thing is that the i386 version is compatible and other is that the i386 version uses the both cores.
[05:02] <SlimeyPete> eyedol59: it will use both cores
[05:03] <eyedol59> Ok, SlimeyPete, thank you for your answers and patience :)
[05:03] <SlimeyPete> no problem :)
[05:08] <yotux> does anyone kown what packages need to be install for pdf support
[05:09] <SlimeyPete> kghostview or xpdf
[05:09] <SlimeyPete> kghostview is installed by default on recent versions of kubuntu
[05:09] <yotux> I have a commandline system without X that is why I was asking
[05:09] <SlimeyPete> ah right
[05:10] <yotux> sorry should have said that
[05:10] <yotux> I was thinking libpdf?
[05:10] <ganymede> hi, i just installed kubuntu desktop and connected to wireless network, used dhclient, and now pinging and sudo apt-get work via konsole but konqueror cannot view webpages
[05:10] <ganymede> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/.
[05:10] <jaime> spanish
[05:10] <SlimeyPete> yotux: that'll do, if you're using perl
[05:11] <vzduch> !es | jaime
[05:11] <ubotu> jaime: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:12] <yotux> SlimeyPete: thanks for the help I am trying to create my home media server
[05:17] <elite1> help my screen is huge. lol i logged onto kubuntu and everything is huge
[05:17] <elite1> when i run something in sudo and the password box comes up it takes up the whole screen i cant change it
[05:18] <elite1> where do u change the reselution (cant spell it)
[05:18] <rixxon> @echo -e in make on Kubuntu 7.04 does not behave as in any other operating system. It outputs the "-e" rather than enabling interpretation of backslash escapes. Why is this and is there a fix?
[05:20] <devkinetic> hello. i install kubuntu and then installed the gnome desktop from that, can i remove kde and all its apps? i already set gdm as the default
[05:20] <elite1> help i need to fix my screen so that everything isnt so huge
[05:20] <pag> rixxon, try: echo -E
[05:20] <rixxon> pag: in the shell or in the makefile?
[05:20] <devkinetic> elite1: change your resolution
[05:20] <jhutchins> rixxon: probably dash vs. bash.
[05:20] <elite1> where?
[05:20] <elite1> configure desktop?
[05:20] <pag> rixxon, shell?
[05:20] <rixxon> jhutchins: ah!
[05:20] <devkinetic> elite1: monitor
[05:20] <jhutchins> resolve, resolution, krandrtray
[05:21] <elite1> monitor? system settings...
[05:21] <pag> rixxon, oh sorry... -E is disabling -e should enable... so I don't understand why it doesn't work :(
[05:21] <rixxon> pag: zsh, also tried bash, and the actual echo binary. but jhutchins is correct, dash is the problem.
[05:21] <devkinetic> elite1: yeah sorry i can't be specific im not in kde right now
[05:21] <elite1> lol
[05:22] <elite1> there is nothing about changeing reseloution
[05:22] <pag> rixxon, ok.
[05:22] <jhutchins> elite1: run krandrtray
[05:22] <elite1> okay
[05:23] <devkinetic> anyone know how i remove kde and all its apps, i installed gnome and like it better
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm trying to edit the DNS database on a computer, where is that located
[05:24] <elite1> failed to open device
[05:24] <elite1> ?
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> devkinetic: sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop; sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[05:24] <ksivaji> devkinetic sudo apt-get remove --purge kde
[05:24] <devkinetic> which one do i use lol?
[05:24] <elite1> how do i run krandrtry
[05:25] <Admiral_Chicago> actually aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop would run just as well
[05:25] <Admiral_Chicago> devkinetic: mine, it handles your dependencies in a cleaner fashion
[05:25] <ksivaji> kde is best for me
[05:25] <Admiral_Chicago> ksivaji: kubuntu-desktop is the meta fiel
[05:25] <Admiral_Chicago> file*
[05:25] <pag> devkinetic, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[05:26] <ksivaji> !metafile
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metafile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <ksivaji> ok bye
[05:27] <elite1> hey i got a panel for resolution but it only allows me to go to 640x480 and 320x240 :S
[05:27] <elite1> i need it higher
[05:27] <devkinetic> you need to select your video card, i think its the next tab over
[05:28] <elite1> it was working fine last night but when i booted it up today everything was just 640480
[05:30] <jhutchins> elite1: Did you update anything yesterday?
[05:31] <elite1> no
[05:31] <Timsen> hi, how can I check if my rented rootserver has sata or scsi disks integrated?
[05:31] <jhutchins> rootserver?
[05:31] <jm87_> hi
[05:32] <elite1> for some reason su crashed and i counld not run anything in sudo so i tryed everything to restarting a new user shutting down but i had to do a complete re-install
[05:32] <elite1> then yesterday everything was fine i did a system restart and the res. was okay now today its 640x480
[05:33] <jm87_> how i do interface my n73 nokia with kubuntu
[05:33] <elite1> usb cord?
[05:33] <vedavox> has anyone installed the 8.39.4 fglrx drivers, and if so have they got 'Testing Use Only' plasterd in the lower right of the screen?
[05:35] <jhutchins> vedavox: Welcome to the bleeding edge.  Roll them back to the release version and that will go away.
[05:36] <pfein> any howto/example config on using tor w/ dante-client?
[05:40] <Bubster> Alright guys, I'm trying to run ./configure to configure a source to install.  While it's running, I get:
[05:40] <Bubster> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[05:40] <Bubster> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[05:40] <Bubster> Any ideas?
[05:40] <pag> !b-e | Bubster
[05:40] <ubotu> Bubster: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:41] <pag> Bubster, and btw; what are you compiling?
[05:41] <Bubster> amap-5.2
[05:42] <vedavox> bubster, do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' that will give you the basics, but you will no doubt need various -dev packages installed after this
[05:44] <lontra> Bubster: also you can install apt-file to find a specific missing file and which package it corresponds to
[05:45] <Bubster> Ok, will try these really quick.  Be back in a minute or two with results.
[05:46] <VSpike> Is it just me, or is katapult mind-bogglingly slow?
[05:46] <fabien> Il y a des franais de connect svp?
[05:47] <pag> !fr | Fabien
[05:47] <ubotu> Fabien: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:47] <lontra> jm87_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/Nokia  ... there's a bit about your nokia
[05:47] <lontra> VSpike: in feisty?
[05:47] <Fabien> !fr
[05:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:47] <VSpike> lontra: yep
[05:47] <pag> VSpike, if you have a large Amarok collection, it might really slow katapult down
[05:48] <VSpike> pag: that could be it :)
[05:49] <Bubster> Running 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' solved my problem.  Thanks guys
[05:51] <vedavox> bubster, you'll get more, but read the output and install the corresponding -dev packages
[05:52] <VSpike> pag: is there any way to disable the indexing of amarok collections, do you know?
[05:52] <lontra> Bubster: also as i mentioned ... if you install apt-file when it says your missing file.foo then you can run apt-file search file.foo and find out what you need to install for a corresponding package
[05:53] <pag> VSpike, dunno if that helps, but delete Amarok from ~/.kde/shate/config/katapultrc
[05:53] <VSpike> Another question I had - the system tray icon for my skype has become corrupted.  Is there an icon cache I can delete?
[05:53] <Bubster> lontra:  Ok, thanks for the info.
[05:56] <VSpike> pag: I'll try it - thanks
[05:56] <pag> np :)
[05:58] <VSpike> pag: apparently, it doesn't exist - in fact "find .kde -iname 'katapult*'" finds nothing :/
[05:59] <pag> VSpike, strange, since it should... try to open katapult's settings, change anything and save
[06:00] <Bubster> lontra, I'm getting "apt-file:command not found"  when I try your search method.
[06:00] <lontra> Bubster: you need install apt-file first
[06:01] <VSpike> pag: How can you open the settings?
[06:01] <lontra> Bubster: sudo apt-get install apt-file
[06:01] <lontra> Bubster: then run apt-file update then run apt-file search foo.file
[06:01] <pag> VSpike, right click the trayicon?
[06:01] <vedavox> hmmm, seems ati have just removed the  8.39.4 fglrx drivers and back to the last ones, guess they forgot to remove the testing logo
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello All..  I would like instructions on installing a theme I got from kde-look.org into Kubuntu
[06:02] <Raystlin_FM> VSpike, if you bring up the launcher (default is Alt+Space) then press Ctrl+C it will bring up a context menu
[06:02] <lontra> Jack_Sparrow: you probably need to compile it
[06:02] <lontra> Jack_Sparrow: what theme?
[06:02] <buck> hey all
[06:02] <lontra> hi buck
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> It is in bz2 format and I see tons of files and folders inside the archive
[06:03] <buck> very new to linux ..
[06:03] <mind_shift> should I wait for a new realease of kubuntu?
[06:03] <buck> but i am loving it
[06:03] <mind_shift> before I install it?
[06:03] <lontra> Jack_Sparrow: ok you'll need to run .. tar xvjf foo.tar.bz2 ... then cd into the directory
[06:03] <devkinetic> hey i ran sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop and it only removed about 40k of files, i want to remove kde and all its apps, so i just have gnome and its stuff
[06:03] <lontra> Jack_Sparrow: then you should read the README file ... but you probably will only need to do 3 things.  1.  ./configure 2.  make  3. sudo make install
[06:03] <vedavox> jack, you should be able just to unpack it to a folder, then use the install theme under appearance / themes
[06:03] <buck> join #ubuntu
[06:04] <VSpike> pag: don't have one, bit Raystlin_FM's method works... thanks#
[06:04] <pag> devkinetic, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[06:04] <VSpike> Wonderful - amarok catalog disabled, now much much faster... thanks guys!
[06:04] <lontra> vedavox: depends on what kind of theme doesn't? ... if it's a style or a win deco you can't do that
[06:04] <stdin> mind_shift: generally, yes. unless you're interested in finding bugs and helping out (even if it's just testing). Just remember that it's not considered "stable" until the release and it could break at any time
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok... will look to see what I find.. It liiks like their root folder is filesystem, will that tar command put things in the correct folders/locations?
[06:05] <manu_> hi
[06:05] <devkinetic> pag: thank you :] 
[06:05] <lontra> Jack_Sparrow: tar will unpack and uncompress the tarball in the folder where the tarball is currently held
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> vedavox: will try that first as it seems the easiest
[06:05] <yayan> ehm..
[06:05] <mind_shift> stdid: How long do you think it will take until the next stable release?
[06:06] <mind_shift> stdin
[06:06] <lontra> Jack_Sparrow: what theme?  can you paste the url to the kde-look.org
[06:06] <pag> mind_shift, 7.10 will be the next stable
[06:06] <pag> !gutsy | mind_shift
[06:06] <ubotu> mind_shift: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[06:06] <stdin> mind_shift: when it's released, 7.10 = year 2007, month = 10
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> lontra: it may take a minute, I closed down the browser..
[06:06] <buck> how does one be able to record ?? with sound recorder
[06:06] <lontra> Jack_Sparrow: no worries ... you don't have to paste it ... it just helps to know what kind of theme it is
[06:07] <lontra> buck: buy a mic ;)
[06:07] <vedavox> lontra, if is a basic theme, hold on, I just noticed that the theme manager is not available under system settings, but is from kcontrol
[06:07] <buck> hahahah ..
[06:07] <mind_shift> stdin: which is the current version?
[06:07] <buck> that would work.. actually i can hear but unable to record...
[06:07] <lontra> vedavox: oh i see ... i've never actually used theme manager before
[06:07] <mind_shift> !current
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about current - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <mind_shift> !version
[06:07] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[06:07] <stdin> mind_shift: 7.04 feisty
[06:07] <mind_shift> ok
[06:08] <lontra> Jack_Sparrow: try kcontrol -> appearance -> theme manager ... install new theme and navigate to that .bz2 file
[06:09] <vzduch> it takes a helluva lot of time uninstalling texlive
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Baghira?content=8692
[06:09] <vedavox> you may have to install kcontrol, iirc, its not default install on basic kubuntu
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> lontra: will try that now..
[06:09] <lontra> vedavox: it's on kubuntu by default
[06:09] <lontra> just no icon ;(
[06:09] <lontra> Jack_Sparrow: press alt+f2 and type kcontrol
[06:09] <buck> any ideas how to get my record to work .. i have built in audio ac 97 850
[06:10] <The_Machine> I have a gigabit nic, and in windows the gigabit link lights show up on my switch, but when i boot into kubuntu I only get 10/100 lights on the switch.  ANy suggestions?
[06:10] <lontra> Jack_Sparrow: fyi ... on that website you linked there are instructions for how to install it ;)
[06:10] <pag> Jack_Sparrow, lontra; isn't baghira available from repos?
[06:10] <pag> !find baghira
[06:10] <ubotu> Found: kwin-baghira
[06:10] <pag> yup... there it is :)
[06:10] <lontra> !win pag
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win pag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <vedavox> jack, try doing 'sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira'  its in the repos
[06:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Just trying to help my niece.. I know nothing about KDE
[06:11] <Jack_Sparrow> What about one not in the repos.
[06:11] <lontra> Jack_Sparrow: it depends ... you could use the theme manager or you might need to compile it from source ... but if you need to compile a theme from source it's generally super easy
[06:12] <lontra> Jack_Sparrow: also since (k)ubuntu is so ubiquitous in the linux world most themes have .deb packages available
[06:12] <stdin> The_Machine: what make/model, or do you know the module name. it may be that you have to tell the driver to use gigabit
[06:12] <mind_shift> Kubuntu should use archlinux as their base :)
[06:13] <lontra> mind_shift: blah ... dpkg and apt-get are the best
[06:13] <mind_shift> lontra: apt-get feels like old stuff :)
[06:14] <mind_shift> no real thought put into it
[06:14] <stdin> are you insane??
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> I will try some of the suggestions and check back in a few minutes.. thanks everyone
[06:14] <lontra> mind_shift: what?  do you know what you're talking about or are you trying to start a flame war?
[06:14] <stdin> apt ROCKS! :p
[06:14] <vedavox> WHAT!!!!
[06:14] <lontra> mind_shift: regardless ... this is offtopic
[06:14] <mind_shift> :p
[06:14] <The_Machine> it's on board in my Dell.  Kinfocenter says it's an Intel 82801G..
[06:14] <lontra> mind_shift: let's go to #kubuntu-offtopic to continue this ridiculous tirade ... oops i mean discussion
[06:15] <The_Machine> sorry, stdin
[06:16] <mind_shift> ok lontra, you win
[06:16] <mind_shift> but you should really try pacman
[06:16] <mind_shift> it's easy simple and powerful
[06:16] <lontra> mind_shift: i like pacman and i like portage too and yum ... they are all really good package managers
[06:17] <lontra> mind_shift: we all win in linux with choices
[06:17] <mind_shift> but apt is ypur favorite?
[06:17] <lontra> mind_shift: yeah ... but the others are very good to and not far behind
[06:17] <vedavox> apt is just so simple, synaptic if you want a fancy gui
[06:17] <mind_shift> yep, guess so
[06:17] <Narada> hi i can't find the package xml-twig-tools in kubuntu but i can find it on debian; what am i doing wrong
[06:18] <mind_shift> one thing I don't like about apt is that it doesn't remove all the files when i want something removed
[06:18] <lontra> mind_shift: i am running kubuntu becomes i want a kde-centric distro ... it just happens to use the debian package manager ... if it was based on something else then i'd happily use it as well ... i'm not some crazy fanboy here
[06:18] <mind_shift> hehe ok :)
[06:18] <vedavox> Narada, I have it available
[06:18] <stdin> The_Machine: can you post the output of "lsmod" to pastebin?
[06:18] <Narada> vedavox: you're running feisty though
[06:19] <vedavox> yes
[06:19] <The_Machine> yes stdin, one moment.
[06:19] <Narada> can i get it on edgy
[06:19] <lontra> Narada: what flavour of debian?  etch?
[06:19] <Narada> yeah i don't have sarge to try on that
[06:19] <vedavox> is there a backport available
[06:19] <The_Machine> http://pastebin.com/d76e719c3
[06:20] <The_Machine> sorry, stdin http://pastebin.com/d76e719c3
[06:20] <manu_> some one here how can help configuring wacom tablet?
[06:20] <lontra> Narada: have you asked in #debian?
[06:24] <Narada> no
[06:25] <pag> !info xml-twig-tools | Narada
[06:25] <ubotu> narada: xml-twig-tools: Command line tools for processing XML documents. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.26-2 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 104 kB
[06:26] <stdin> The_Machine: what does "lspci | grep Ethernet" show ?
[06:26] <pag> Narada, that package is supposed to be installable with even the default repos...
[06:27] <Narada> well my apt-cache search doesn't return it
[06:27] <The_Machine> stdin, 03:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) LAN Controller (rev 01)
[06:28] <pag> Narada, are you on Feisty?
[06:28] <Bubster> lontra, are you able to receive private messages?
[06:29] <Narada> no
[06:33] <lontra_> Bubster: hi
[06:33] <odla> Bubster: what do you need to pm me about?
[06:36] <vzduch> is it possible to install texlive _and_ kile?  when I installed texlive (w/ aptitude) it removed my tetex pkgs because they conflict w/ texlive.  Then when I wanted to install kile it complained that my texlive pkgs were broken, and about unresolved dependencies to the tetex pkgs which were removed before
[06:36] <stdin> The_Machine: hmm, there isn't any option in the module to enable gigabit, so I'm not sure
[06:38] <spawn57> try doing apt-get check
[06:38] <User1> hi guys
[06:38] <User1> got a problem here
[06:38] <|Zero|H|I|T|> hello
[06:39] <|Zero|H|I|T|> can anyone help me please?
[06:39] <logixoul> I am installing feisty on a laptop
[06:39] <spawn57> and you might wanna check your sources.list, if you got a repositories, especially ones that aren't very well managed, it might give you trouble
[06:39] <|Zero|H|I|T|> something with apt-get
[06:39] <axia> Pessoal, qual sistema linux que tem a melhor interface grfica?
[06:39] <|Zero|H|I|T|> anyone?
[06:39] <spawn57> |Zero|H|I|T|: just aks =P
[06:39] <pag> !ask | |Zero|H|I|T|
[06:39] <ubotu> |Zero|H|I|T|: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:39] <vzduch> spawn57: who are you talking to?
[06:39] <logixoul> and it boots fine, but when I select "start kubuntu" in the menu, it loads forever
[06:39] <spawn57> vzduch: you =P
[06:39] <logixoul> any hints?
[06:40] <vzduch> !pt | axia
[06:40] <ubotu> axia: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|> zero@Zero:~$ sudo apt-get install kdevelop
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|>   ... 
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|>   
[06:40] <logixoul> heh heh
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|> Reading state information... 
[06:40] <genii> logixoul: You should have 192Mb or more on the computer
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|> A  'apt-get f install'      :
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|>      :
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|>   kdevelop:  : libcvsservice0 (>= 4:3.5.5-1)     
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|>   python2.5:  : python2.5-minimal (= 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3)   2.5.1-0ubuntu1   
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|>   python2.5-dev:  : python2.5 (= 2.5.1-0ubuntu1)   2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3   
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|> E:  .  'apt-get -f install'     (   ).
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|> zero@Zero:~$
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|> some of these is greek
[06:40] <The_Machine> holy moly
[06:40] <logixoul> thats like greek to me dude :P
[06:40] <vzduch> !paste | |Zero|H|I|T|
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|> but i can translate
[06:40] <ubotu> |Zero|H|I|T|: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|> lol
[06:40] <The_Machine> literally greek.
[06:40] <pag> |Zero|H|I|T|, sudo apt-get install -f
[06:40] <|Zero|H|I|T|> sorry
[06:41] <pag> (as it does, by the way, say)
[06:41] <|Zero|H|I|T|>    python2.5 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3 (  .../python2.5_2.5.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
[06:41] <|Zero|H|I|T|>    python2.5 ...
[06:41] <|Zero|H|I|T|> dpkg:     /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.5_2.5.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[06:41] <Narada> sigh
[06:41] <|Zero|H|I|T|>    buffer_write(fd) (9, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb   `./usr/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/rgbimg.so': No space left on device
[06:41] <|Zero|H|I|T|> dpkg-deb:   paste     (Broken pipe)
[06:41] <|Zero|H|I|T|>      :
[06:41] <|Zero|H|I|T|>  /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.5_2.5.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[06:41] <|Zero|H|I|T|> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:41] <|Zero|H|I|T|> zero@Zero:~$
[06:41] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i did sudo apt-get install -f
[06:41] <Narada> dude use the pastebin
[06:42] <odla> |Zero|H|I|T|: pastebin
[06:42] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i have to dl that?
[06:42] <vzduch> spawn57: you mean only 'apt-get check' or another option after that?
[06:42] <spawn57> vzduch: don't think so
[06:42] <|Zero|H|I|T|> just apt-get install -f
[06:42] <_4str1> !ru | |Zero|H|I|T|
[06:42] <|Zero|H|I|T|> it says no space left
[06:42] <ubotu> |Zero|H|I|T|:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:42] <pag> "No space left on device"  I think that's pretty explains itself
[06:42] <_4str1> should be easyer
[06:42] <|Zero|H|I|T|> and i cant uninstall anything
[06:43] <pag> _4str1, that was greek, not russian ;)
[06:43] <|Zero|H|I|T|> there is space
[06:43] <Hobbsee> !paste | |Zero|H|I|T|
[06:43] <ubotu> |Zero|H|I|T|: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:43] <Hobbsee> !gr
[06:43] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[06:43] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i read ru too
[06:43] <_4str1> oups sorry :p
[06:43] <|Zero|H|I|T|> but not good
[06:43] <warrior-wizard> y'a des francais ici ?
[06:43] <vzduch> spawn57: that doesn't do much
[06:43] <vzduch> !fr | warrior-wizard
[06:43] <ubotu> warrior-wizard: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:43] <Narada> what the hell is up with ubotu
[06:43] <|Zero|H|I|T|> anyone can help?
[06:43] <warrior-wizard> ok
[06:43] <cristian> Ubuntu Rocks ah!
[06:43] <pag> Narada, umm.. nothing? works as it should :O
[06:43] <cristian> that's what happens...
[06:44] <|Zero|H|I|T|> the /var partition is 1.9 gbs
[06:44] <Narada> hmm yeah you're right
[06:44] <spawn57> vzduch: what about your repositories, you have a lot of them on it?
[06:44] <|Zero|H|I|T|> plz
[06:44] <Narada> it's just my end showing questions marks
[06:44] <john> hey
[06:44] <_4str1> |Zero|H|I|T|: type df -h in your termianl to see haw many free space you have
[06:45] <pag> Narada, the problem is in your encoding, not ubotu. it looks like it should with UTF-8
[06:45] <vedavox> Narada: you need to install some helenic fonts to see it
[06:45] <|Zero|H|I|T|> the /usr part is 100% WTF?
[06:45] <Narada> yeah that's what i said; the problem is at my end
[06:46] <vedavox> Zero, use df to see whats taking up the space, try removing documentation, that can usually save quite a bit
[06:46] <|Zero|H|I|T|> but /usr is 1.9gb
[06:46] <vzduch> spawn57: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1869 <-- my sources.list
[06:46] <|Zero|H|I|T|> maybe /usr/local has many things
[06:46] <pag> |Zero|H|I|T|, you have different partition for every directory? :O
[06:47] <vedavox> my /usr partition is 10gb, and /usr/local is another 10 gb, but I like to play a lot
[06:48] <lucas-r2d2> Hi, I have got a big problem with my apt. It seems that I cannot install any kde-packages. If I try to install, e.g., kdesdk, it tells me that this package depends on some other's and say's my packages are crashed.
[06:48] <mind_shift> ok
[06:48] <|Zero|H|I|T|> lub is 700mb?
[06:48] <|Zero|H|I|T|> lib
[06:48] <mind_shift> I'm getting kubuntu now so I can have kolourpaint
[06:48] <cristian> So, what's the f**** prob yo!
[06:49] <pag> lucas-r2d2, pastebin the whole output of sudo apt-get install kdesdk
[06:49] <vedavox> zero, do you roll your own kernels by any chance?
[06:49] <pag> !paste | lucas-r2d2
[06:49] <ubotu> lucas-r2d2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:49] <|Zero|H|I|T|> vedavox no
[06:49] <wyjec> hm
[06:50] <logixoul> Hi. I booted into the Feisty CD and selected "install or run kubuntu", then it says "loading" and this phase takes like 15 minutes, then "loading linux kernel" pops up and sloowly reaches 15% then freezes. Any hints? Pretty please :)
[06:50] <lucas-r2d2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30572/
[06:51] <lucas-r2d2> it's german...
[06:51] <pag> lucas-r2d2, you have all the repos enabled?
[06:52] <lucas-r2d2> main, universe, multiverse, wine upstream.
[06:52] <vedavox> zero: if I was you I would repartion, 1.9GB for /usr is not a lot if you are installing lots of stuff, or go through and remove documentation and any cruft you have built up
[06:52] <Evangelion> hello everyone
[06:53] <Evangelion> here is an enthusiastic linux user whose faiith in linux is wavering
[06:53] <pag> lucas-r2d2, is this error displayed at any installation, or just kdesdk?
[06:53] <|Zero|H|I|T|> the share file is really big
[06:53] <Evangelion> because knetworkmanager in kubuntu used to automatically detect wireless networks
[06:53] <vedavox> how big is /usr/share/doc
[06:53] <Evangelion> and list them with ease when I first installed kubuntu
[06:53] <Evangelion> but now it doesnt even show a wireless section
[06:54] <lucas-r2d2> it is shown when installing any kde-package (i think so, cowsay works)
[06:54] <|Zero|H|I|T|> 100mb
[06:54] <spawn57> vzduch: the bleeding edge? try without it?
[06:54] <Evangelion> it shows me the enable and disable wireless option
[06:54] <Evangelion> but nothing else
[06:54] <Evangelion> any suggestions?
[06:54] <Evangelion> im now using the wired connecction
[06:54] <|Zero|H|I|T|> should i remove it?
[06:55] <vedavox> Evang, I gave up on the network manager and use wifi radar instead
[06:55] <|Zero|H|I|T|> or can i just move it to my external HDD?
[06:55] <pag> lucas-r2d2, have you installed something from unofficial repos?
[06:55] <lucas-r2d2> pag: only wine and some self-built apps...
[06:56] <vedavox> Zero: if its only 100mb leave it, you could symlink it to the external, but I would be looking at a repartition to increase the 1.9gb size of /usr
[06:56] <Evangelion> wifi-radar
[06:56] <Evangelion> hmm
[06:56] <pag> lucas-r2d2, care to tell more about those self-built apps?
[06:56] <vzduch> I'm kind-of puzzle.. why does aptitude list tetex as a dependency for kile while apt-get does not?
[06:56] <vzduch> *puzzled
[06:57] <Evangelion> vedavox: what would be the equivalent aptitude install <name for wifi radar>?
[06:57] <lucas-r2d2> pag: well, reconstructor, glob2, geant4, clhep and some others
[06:57] <cloakable> vzduch: aptitude installs <reccomended> stuff, apt-get doesn't :P
[06:57] <pag> vzduch, aptitude likes to think reccomendations as depencies too iirc... not sure though
[06:57] <spawn57> vzduch: beats me too
[06:58] <pag> lucas-r2d2, hmm.. strange. I just tried installing kdesdk myself, and it went fine, so it's not a packaging issue.. tbh I'm getting out of the ideas
[06:59] <pag> lucas-r2d2, E: Kaputte Pakete  == Broken Package?
[06:59] <lucas-r2d2> pag: think so.
[07:00] <lucas-r2d2> pag: could that be an issue of having kde and some gnome applications installed together?
[07:01] <pag> lucas-r2d2, I doubt it  they should work just fine together
[07:01] <lucas-r2d2> pag: ok, then I think it's time for a reinstallation...
[07:01] <pag> lucas-r2d2, try running sudo apt-get install -f  and sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:02] <reagleBRKLN> i'm trying to rename some jpegs, but krename's automatic preview, nor konq's icon view will work on them. is there a size cut off? it works in other directories, but these jpegs are ~2M
[07:02] <reagleBRKLN> i get the default icon instead of the thumbnail
[07:02] <lucas-r2d2> pag: doesn't work, I tried it myself, it doesn't do anything
[07:03] <mind_shift> HEY GUYS!!!!! IM GOING TO INSTALL KUBUNTU NOW!!!!!! :D
[07:03] <underdog5004> no need to shout
[07:03] <pag> lucas-r2d2, what about  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  That'll take a lot of time though
[07:03] <The_Machine> hehe @ mind_shift
[07:03] <The_Machine> you'll be happy you did.
[07:04] <mind_shift> brb I hope!
[07:04] <TheGateKeeper> lol
[07:04] <Evangelion> anyone who would like to help me get my WiFi up and running again on my laptop
[07:04] <underdog5004> I'll give it a shot, Evangelion
[07:04] <Evangelion> thank u underdog5004
[07:04] <Evangelion> well
[07:04] <underdog5004> which chipset is it?
[07:05] <Evangelion> when I first installed FiestyFawn it worked
[07:05] <Evangelion> just a sec
[07:05] <Evangelion> lspci  returns : 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[07:05] <underdog5004> ok, hold on
[07:06] <underdog5004> is your laptop an HP DV6120?
[07:07] <underdog5004> Evangelion, what model is your laptop?
[07:09] <underdog5004> fahadysf, you still with me?
[07:09] <fahadysf> its a dv6395ea
[07:09] <fahadysf> practically the same as a 6295us
[07:09] <fahadysf> sorry for the late reply
[07:09] <fahadysf> i was feeding my pet kitten
[07:09] <fahadysf> :p
[07:10] <underdog5004> no problem. Which model is your lappy?
[07:10] <fahadysf> dv6395ea
[07:10] <underdog5004> ok
[07:11] <fahadysf> quite similar to the 6120 I guess
[07:11] <fahadysf> Intel 945GM chipset
[07:11] <underdog5004> fahadysf, ok, do ifconfig -a
[07:11] <underdog5004> see if your system sees it, basically
[07:12] <fahadysf> it does
[07:12] <fahadysf> it shows up as eth1
[07:12] <fahadysf> eth0 being the wired interface
[07:12] <underdog5004> ok, do this: sudo ifup eth1
[07:12] <deitarion2> I set up a ~/.asoundrc in order to make the in-webcam mic on my mother's system default and i DID re-enable dmix, but I can't figure out how to get audio output from the flash pluigin working again. everything else works fine. A little help please?
[07:13] <fahadysf> ifup: interface eth1 already configured
[07:13] <underdog5004> hmm
[07:13] <fahadysf> I have tried manually setting the IP
[07:13] <underdog5004> type in kdesu wlassistant
[07:13] <underdog5004> in a terminal
[07:13] <fahadysf> wlassistant not installed
[07:14] <underdog5004> huh...
[07:14] <underdog5004> open up the kmenu, go to internet, and look for something to do with wireless...
[07:14] <underdog5004> please
[07:14] <fahadysf> knetworkmanager is the utility u are looking for
[07:14] <fahadysf> that is what USED to be able to set up my wireless card properly
[07:15] <underdog5004> ok, I didn't realize that was installed by default now...
[07:15] <underdog5004> so, open that up
[07:15] <fahadysf> ok
[07:15] <fahadysf> done
[07:15] <underdog5004> does it see your wireless card?
[07:15] <fahadysf> well that is what im not so sure about
[07:15] <Juz_moi> I just installed and my PCI RTL8139 isn't recognized, says I don't have a nic card?
[07:15] <fahadysf> it does enable and disable Wireless
[07:15] <Juz_moi> how do I get it recognized?
[07:15] <underdog5004> rtl8139?
[07:15] <underdog5004> oh, nvm
[07:15] <underdog5004> sorry, wrong person
[07:16] <fahadysf> and the Manual configuration menu shows the wireless card
[07:16] <underdog5004> fahadysf, ok, but can you see any networks with it?
[07:16] <fahadysf> nope
[07:16] <fahadysf> i cant see any networks
[07:16] <underdog5004> hmm
[07:16] <Juz_moi> yea realtec 8139
[07:16] <underdog5004> what was the model number again, fahadysf ?
[07:16] <fahadysf> although I am perfectly sure that the router is configured properly
[07:16] <fahadysf> dv6395ea
[07:16] <arekanderu> Hey guys, I have installed my graphic card + opengl, but something's not right. I lag etc. Could somebody help me?
[07:16] <Raystlin_FM> fahadysf, is the wireless radio turned on?
[07:16] <fahadysf> yes it is
[07:16] <underdog5004> for the wireless card
[07:16] <Juz_moi> oops I'll wait I'm confusing the wireless issue sri
[07:17] <fahadysf> the little sliding button on my laptop which enables bluetooth and WiFi is in the right place
[07:17] <Raystlin_FM> juz_moi, what does lspci show?
[07:17] <Juz_moi> just a sec I'll go try it
[07:18] <arekanderu> Hey guys, I have installed my graphic card + opengl, but something's not right. I lag etc. Could somebody help me?
[07:18] <underdog5004> arekanderu, glxinfo | grep direct
[07:18] <arekanderu> underdog5004: ty
[07:18] <arekanderu> underdog5004: i'll try it
[07:18] <underdog5004> if it says direct rendering is enabled/true, then you're good to go
[07:19] <arekanderu> Ahh, k ty
[07:19] <arekanderu> Brb
[07:19] <fahadysf> I have an idea on how to get it to work
[07:19] <arekanderu> underdog5004: It says Yes >.<
[07:19] <arekanderu> underdog5004: But I've never lagged this much thoguh
[07:19] <arekanderu> underdog5004: Though*
[07:19] <Juz_moi> Raystlin_FM: it sees it
[07:20] <fahadysf> I know that some configuration files must have been effed up
[07:20] <fahadysf> but I dont know which ones
[07:20] <Raystlin_FM> juz_moi, is this the only NIC in your system?
[07:20] <underdog5004> fahadysf, you may just need to use ndiswrapper
[07:20] <Juz_moi> yep
[07:20] <fahadysf> but y
[07:20] <underdog5004> arekanderu, which graphics card is it?
[07:20] <fahadysf> it used to work
[07:20] <fahadysf> on this very distro
[07:20] <Raystlin_FM> juz_moi, what does ifconfig show?
[07:20] <fahadysf> in this very install
[07:20] <fahadysf> it just stopped working all of a sudden
[07:21] <fahadysf> its definitely a config problem somewhere
[07:21] <Raystlin_FM> fahadysf, i have the same wireless NIC in my Dell laptop... you don't need to use ndiswrapper...
[07:21] <fahadysf> yeah I can guess that
[07:21] <Juz_moi> shows only Lo
[07:22] <arekanderu> underdog5004: It's a Geforce MX440
[07:22] <arekanderu> underdog5004: I've installed everything right and stuff
[07:22] <underdog5004> arekanderu, how did you install the driver? Envy?
[07:22] <arekanderu> underdog5004: nah, just a bunch of commands and downloads
[07:22] <fahadysf> Raystlin_FM: any other ideas on what might have gone wrong
[07:22] <arekanderu> underdog5004: what's envy?
[07:23] <underdog5004> !envy > arekanderu
[07:23] <Raystlin_FM> juz_moi, try sudo ifup eth0
[07:24] <arekanderu> underdog5004: What the..?
[07:24] <Juz_moi> sez ingoring unknown interface eth0
[07:24] <underdog5004> Juz_moi, ifconfig -a
[07:26] <genii> underdog5004: Seems to me he has mismatched MAC address for eth0 in the file /etc/iftab
[07:26] <genii> underdog5004: Or no /etc/network/interfaces   entry
[07:26] <fahadysf> so anyone have any idea where the confi files for Wireless networks are stored
[07:26] <Juz_moi> ifconfig -a gives sme only lo
[07:26] <Juz_moi> same
[07:26] <fahadysf> like the SSID for the network and the WPA configuration
[07:27] <underdog5004> genii, good thinkin...I was going to get his /etc/network/interface thing squared away next
[07:27] <underdog5004> lol
[07:27] <genii> cool
[07:27] <fahadysf> >.<
[07:27] <genii> work, sorta AFK
[07:28] <machine_1> hola
[07:28] <underdog5004> fahadysf, so, open up /etc/network/interfaces and see if eth0 or eth1 (whichever, I can't remember which for your wireless) is defined.
[07:29] <fahadysf> underdog5004: k just a sec
[07:30] <fahadysf> auto eth1
[07:30] <fahadysf> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[07:30] <underdog5004> darn...
[07:30] <fahadysf> its just like the other interface
[07:30] <fahadysf> the wired one
[07:31] <underdog5004> I'm all out of ideas, fahadysf...google is your friend...or someone else in here more knowledgeable than I.
[07:32] <Juz_moi> hmm i'm going to check in the bios for something, brb
[07:32] <fahadysf> :D
[07:32] <fahadysf> thanx for the effort
[07:32] <fahadysf> im quite comfortable with linux myself
[07:32] <fahadysf> and I have already done all the entry level trouble shooting myself
[07:32] <underdog5004> good to hear
[07:32] <genii> Juz_moi: Yes, if your adapter is disabled there it could explain a lot :)
[07:33] <fahadysf> I just couldnt find the reason knetworkmanager wasnt showing any wireless networks anymore
[07:33] <fahadysf> I guess ill have to google for more info on how knetworkmanager works
[07:33] <fahadysf> thanx anyway underdog5004
[07:33] <underdog5004> np
[07:34] <ubuntu__> np
[07:34] <ubuntu__> hello
[07:34] <rami> !flash
[07:34] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:35] <fahadysf> lol
[07:35] <fahadysf> in the end
[07:36] <fahadysf> the problem IS knetworkmanager
[07:36] <fahadysf> all I did was
[07:36] <fahadysf> aptitude install wlassistant
[07:36] <fahadysf> and used that
[07:36] <fahadysf> it found my network
[07:36] <underdog5004> it worked?
[07:36] <underdog5004> nice
[07:36] <fahadysf> and now im up and running
[07:36] <jhutchins_lt> !enter
[07:37] <fahadysf> so now im uninstalling knetworkmanager and will use the hassle free wlassistant from now on
[07:37] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:37] <Juz_moi> gurrr no joy
[07:42] <elite1> hey anyone know where to get aircrack-ng ?
[07:43] <genii> elite1: They stopped supporting that maybe 4 years ago now
[07:43] <elite1> no u can still use it thou
[07:43] <pag> !info aircrack-ng
[07:43] <ubotu> aircrack-ng: wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.6.2-7ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 186 kB, installed size 528 kB
[07:43] <elite1> where do u download it @?
[07:43] <cloakable> elite1: In the archives, afaik :P
[07:44] <cloakable> sudo aptitude install aircrack-ng
[07:44] <cloakable> Enable universe before that, though
[07:44] <elite1> k
[07:44] <elite1> how thou?
[07:44] <elite1> nvm
[07:45] <elite1> it cant find any packages
[07:45] <genii> elite1: Also their repo,: deb http://aircrack-ng.le-vert.net/ubuntu <distname> main     where distname is dapper or edgy. dunno if feisty there
[07:46] <elite1> doesnt work
[07:46] <elite1> unknown host
[07:46] <genii> !repo | elite1
[07:46] <ubotu> elite1: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:47] <elite1> is there a site where  i can just download it from? i tried using terminal but cant find anypackages
[07:47] <biruz> hi ppl! can anyone help me setting anti-aliasing on my ATI card??
[07:47] <jhutchins> !find aircrack
[07:47] <ubotu> Found: aircrack, aircrack-ng
[07:47] <jhutchins> !info aircrack-ng
[07:47] <ubotu> aircrack-ng: wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.6.2-7ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 186 kB, installed size 528 kB
[07:48] <genii> jhutchins: He needs to enable the right repo in sources.list
[07:48] <jhutchins> genii: correct.
[07:48] <stdin> universe/multiverse are enabled by default in feisty
[07:52] <elite1> is there any brute force programs available for kubuntu?
[07:53] <eagles0513875> elite1: go into adept and type in search brute force
[07:54] <jhutchins> Heh.  Wants a point-and-click network hacking tool.
[07:55] <elite1> just wondering if brute force works with kubuntu?
[07:56] <jhutchins> elite1: Brute force what?
[07:56] <elite1> any of them
[07:56] <jhutchins> any of what/
[07:56] <jhutchins> ?
[07:56] <elite1> programs
[07:56] <elite1> i need to find the password of a router
[07:57] <jhutchins> elite1: Not really.
[07:57] <jhutchins> elite1: If it's your router, just reset it.
[07:57] <elite1> not really?
[07:57] <jhutchins> elite1: If it's not your router, ask.
[07:57] <elite1> thats the prob its not mine
[07:57] <elite1> lol
[07:57] <elite1> yeah that will go well
[07:58] <elite1> i can get into to my user but not admin i tried all default router names and passwords but they have it changed
[07:58] <elite1> no
[07:58] <elite1> its no wep
[07:58] <elite1> the connection is Default
[07:58] <elite1> i need to find the pass for DMZ
[07:59] <cloakable> Reset :P
[07:59] <elite1> so i can use X-link kai.
[07:59] <elite1> not my  router
[07:59] <eagles0513875> ive neverhad to use bruteforce for anything
[07:59] <elite1> well it helps if u have alot of time
[08:00] <elite1> i have to portforward a port 30,000 but need to know the routers admin pass.
[08:02] <cloakable> elite1: Asking in that case would be a good idea. You are meant to have access, yes?
[08:02] <elite1> yeah
[08:03] <cloakable> Then ask the owner :P
[08:03] <elite1> okay
[08:03] <elite1> i should call him up
[08:03] <elite1> ask him to reset his router so i can use x-link.oh and tell him im using his signal too
[08:04] <cloakable> Heh
[08:04] <biruz> can anyone tell me how to enable anti-aliasing on my ATI card??
[08:04] <biruz> plz?
[08:04] <stdin> If a "client" tried to brute force my router he wouldn't be a client for long
[08:04] <cloakable> No, you ask for him to forward the port.
[08:04] <genii> elite1: So then you are NOT meant to have access
[08:05] <elite1> there are many programs in windows to make sure it wont show up as a client under your router even a psp can do that
[08:05] <elite1> but windows sucks
[08:05] <stdin> if you get an IP, then it shows as a client
[08:06] <trakinas> hello!
[08:06] <trakinas> is there any "lamp" script to install apache+mysql+php without any special configuration?
[08:06] <genii> stdin If you set a static IP in top of same range that is not used by dhcp server you still get in and not show as client
[08:07] <trakinas> i just want to test some little scripts
[08:07] <cloakable> True.
[08:08] <elite1> the static ip of there router 192.168.0.1 like all d-links just that i need the DMZ to be enabled for my computer
[08:08] <stdin> genii: I suppose that's what MAC filtering was made for
[08:10] <elite1> how long has linux been around for?
[08:11] <genii> 1991
[08:11] <pag> heh... same year as I :)
[08:11] <elite1> what was the os called?
[08:11] <genii> minix
[08:11] <stdin> linux != OS
[08:11] <pag> elite1, linux is just a kernel
[08:11] <elite1> wow wasnt even born then
[08:12] <genii> minix evolved into linux
[08:12] <SlimeyPete> erm, no it didn't
[08:12] <SlimeyPete> minix is a seperate kernel/OS and is still around
[08:12] <SlimeyPete> it just provided some inspiration for Torvalds
[08:12] <genii> SlimeyPete: Well, he used the source as starting point :) Me error
[08:13] <elite1> how hard is it to start your own os?
[08:14] <pag> elite1, OS or linux distro?
[08:14] <genii> pag good distinction
[08:14] <elite1> linux distro
[08:14] <elite1> sorry
[08:14] <elite1> not an acutal os
[08:14] <midijery> mepis is good
[08:14] <pag> elite1, easy.. real easy... keeping it up to date and working - that's the problem
[08:15] <elite1> oh
[08:15] <genii> elite1 If you are actually interested in this, look up "linux from scratch" in google
[08:15] <trakinas> no one? i just need a small apache install with mysql and php.
[08:15] <midijery> Also kubuntu/ubuntu
[08:15] <trakinas> buuuut Im not good with mysql, so any scripts to help configing mysql??
[08:16] <genii> trakinas: As far as i know there is no pre-packaged all in one LAMP package. Usually you would be doing a clean LAMP install from the server/alternate CD
[08:19] <elite1_> why/
[08:19] <elite1_> why did it set my nickname?
[08:20] <elite1_> are u allowed to sell your own linux distro or you have to keep it free?
[08:20] <vzduch> elite1_: why did what set your nickname?
[08:20] <trakinas> genii: hmmm... okay! since Im not going to run a sever but only play around with php, i think i can deal with small mysql configs.
[08:20] <elite1_> i didnt
[08:20] <elite1> there
[08:20] <elite1> my nickname is owned by someone else?
[08:21] <vzduch> elite1: because you were already logged in
[08:21] <elite1> oh lol
[08:21] <elite1> how did i do that?
[08:21] <vzduch> [20:19:13]  -!- elite1_ [n=elite1@d36-88-138.home1.cgocable.net]  has joined #kubuntu
[08:21] <vzduch> [20:19:25]  -!- elite1 [n=elite1@d36-88-138.home1.cgocable.net]  has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 
[08:22] <elite1> ohh i think my internet cutout or something
[08:23] <elite1> how was the one that built kubuntu? and the other distros's a group of developers?
[08:25] <trakinas> what you mean?
[08:27] <elite1> imdownload xubuntu edgy 6.10
[08:27] <elite1> downloading*
[08:27] <midijery> away has no counter comand like "I'm back"
[08:28] <trakinas> midijery: /away
[08:29] <trakinas> or you could aliase one "/back" for yourself
[08:29] <midijery> I guess you just have to send a message to say your back, I'm new at this.
[08:30] <midijery> I'll try the /away 2 times to see if that works also.
[08:31] <midijery> It doesn't seem to work like a switch.
[08:31] <trakinas> midijery: btw, in konversation is /away~/back
[08:34] <midijery> Thanks /back works
[08:36] <midijery> c u latr
[08:42] <KaslePro> i've downloaded lime wire other.. what is the command to install it?
[08:43] <stdin> KaslePro: download the deb
[08:43] <KaslePro> deb?
[08:44] <KaslePro> i'm a newbie
[08:44] <KaslePro> :P
[08:44] <cloakable> KaslePro: The format Ubuntu/Debian, etc uses :P
[08:44] <cloakable> For packages :)
[08:44] <armanis> hi guys
[08:45] <KaslePro> ok... where can i download that?
[08:45] <armanis> i have a big problem
[08:45] <stdin> KaslePro: on the website download page, click on " Linux (DEB - Ubuntu, Debian)"
[08:45] <stdin> KaslePro: by the penguin :)
[08:45] <armanis> i've just configured sagem fast 800
[08:46] <KaslePro> cloakable: what's the "download page"?:P
[08:46] <armanis> i can get acces to my ftp but not to internet Oo
[08:46] <armanis> with konqueror
[08:46] <cloakable> KaslePro: Don't know, don't use LimeWire, I use KTorrent :P
[08:47] <armanis> is someone able to tell me the command to get firefox please ?
[08:47] <KaslePro> k torrent? is that a bit torren program?
[08:47] <stdin> KaslePro: http://www.limewire.com/download/version.php
[08:47] <armanis> please
[08:47] <vedavox> sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:47] <armanis> thannks
[08:47] <vedavox> but it sounds like you have not got your routes set correctly
[08:48] <armanis> arf
[08:48] <KaslePro> stdin: what do i do after the download?
[08:49] <stdin> KaslePro: right click it, go to Kubuntu Package Maenu, and choose to install
[08:50] <KaslePro> thank you!=)
[08:50] <armanis> arf i can't download it ...
[08:50] <armanis> they say  dependance or something like that
[08:51] <armanis> hein?
[08:52] <armanis> there is someone speaking french here? i have some difficulties to understand english
[08:52] <stdin> !fr
[08:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:53] <armanis> thanks very much friends
[08:53] <KaslePro> when i am about to install java a licence agreement occupears... what should i do?
 Do you have a synaptic or other package manager
[08:53] <lontra> KaslePro: accept it
[08:54] <KaslePro> how?
[08:54] <lontra>  KaslePro: use the tab button and then click yes
[08:54] <KaslePro> thanks=)
[08:54] <brad__> how would I go about moving my files from the home folder on my root drive to a seperate home partition which was created ouit t of unallocated space
[08:54] <midijery> I don't speak French only a little Spannish
[08:54] <brad__> apparently creating a home partition and mounting/enabling it is NOT the way to do it
[08:55] <vedavox> brad, separate /home partition?
[08:55] <trakinas> a got an error with mysql-client-5,0. just apeared "error". would be possible to refresh it lately?
[08:55] <vzduch> KaslePro: what's wrong w/ FrostWire?
[08:55] <Daisuke_Ido> vzduch: it's a haven for illegal porn?
[08:55] <Daisuke_Ido> i'd say that's pretty wrong
[08:56] <brad__> well I wanted to create a media partition for my videos etc, and then I came here
[08:56] <brad__> trying to get advice on doing it
[08:56] <vedavox> brad have you decalred it in /etc/fstab
[08:56] <randy> Im having a problem with my sound, ive tried all the things ubotu said but its still not working :(
[08:56] <brad__> and against my better judgement was talked into mounting it as a home partition instead
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> randy: what card?
[08:56] <randy> Audigy SE
[08:57] <brad__> except i've already messed something up because applications which arent currently open are not opening
[08:57] <trakinas> brad__: you can hhave any given partition mouted in any where you wish. you just have to configure it correctly on fstab
[08:57] <vzduch> Daisuke_Ido: do you think LimeWire isn't?
[08:57] <brad__> the thing is there is already a home folder on my root drive
[08:57] <trakinas> brad__: for example, you could have a partition /dev/sda5  being mounted as /my-media-files/
[08:57] <brad__> so the computer has no idea what the hell is going on when a /home partitoin mounts
[08:58] <trakinas> brad__: i have a link that mighty help ya
[08:58] <trakinas> one second.
[08:58] <brad__> well, I cant open new applications right now I dontknow why
[08:58] <brad__> so I guess I need to reboot off of a livecd which is a shame becauseI have a horrible cd drive
[08:58] <vedavox> brad, open the console and type 'man fstab' that should give you the info
[08:59] <Daisuke_Ido> vzduch: it is as well
[08:59] <Daisuke_Ido> i was referring to the entire protocol.
[08:59] <brad__> konsole wont open, the computer cant find it because I enabled the partition mounted as /home
[08:59] <Daisuke_Ido> a terrible concept and even worse execution
[09:00] <trakinas> brad__: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[09:00] <brad__> I've said like six times I can't access anything right now and need to reset onto a live cd and delete the partition (again)
[09:00] <trakinas> just sudo umount /home/
[09:01] <trakinas> brad__: no. you dont need to
[09:01] <randy> Hes gone
[09:01] <jhutchins> Sigh.
[09:01] <vedavox> he can't get into a shell
[09:01] <jhutchins> It's all our fault.
[09:01] <jhutchins> Linux sucks.
[09:01] <CS5> it is not your fault.
[09:01] <trakinas> he
[09:02] <CS5> LMAO
[09:02] <trakinas> i think he is with good will.
[09:02] <CS5> Linux what?
[09:02] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:02] <jhutchins> Experience is proportionate to data destroyed.  He's making some progress.
[09:02] <trakinas> i mean, he didnt say it sucks
[09:02] <trakinas> he was just pissed off cause he couldnt do it.
[09:02] <CS5> Ah ic
[09:02] <randy> Anyone wanna help me with my Sound Card? Or sound not working thingie?
[09:02] <jhutchins> Perhaps we should have suggested Ctrl-Alt-F1.
[09:02] <trakinas> in anycase, he could have just logged into another tty
[09:03] <trakinas> then umounted home.
[09:03] <vedavox> you know you been using linux too long when you break stuff on purpose just to play about fixing it
[09:03] <randy> lol
[09:03] <jhutchins> trakinas: I'm thinking he had worse problems than that.
[09:03] <trakinas> and rebooted. also, removed the line in fstab if it was the case
[09:03] <trakinas> jhutchins seriously?
[09:03] <jhutchins> trakinas: Of course, it could just be that since he didn't have a home directory, desktop shortcuts and such weren't working, and since he didn't know how to get to a console...
[09:04] <trakinas> jhutchins he! probably
[09:05] <trakinas> and i was complaning about kubuntu not working with my dvd-drive for reading
[09:05] <trakinas> yes. it CAN BURN, but it can read any dvd...
[09:05] <trakinas> *cant
[09:05] <trakinas> just the FILES it recorded... oO
[09:05] <trakinas> tested with all my dvd's, burnt on gentoo... and with a dvd-rw burnt on kubuntu.
[09:06] <vedavox> trakinas: using automount?
[09:06] <trakinas> it could read and copy the file burnt here, but not the one burnt on gentoo. bizzaaarrrrrrerrr
[09:06] <trakinas> vedavox: auto, manual, magical, ilogical....
[09:06] <trakinas> it got a bunch of i/o errors
[09:07] <trakinas> kernels frm 2.6.18 and below works great
[09:08] <vedavox> Aaargh, I am never buying another ATI card
[09:08] <trakinas> at least with other live-cds and gentoo on my other partition
[09:09] <CS5> Vedavox: You and me both.
[09:10] <CS5> Vedavox: took a few days to get mine fully functional, and about 4 different faq's
[09:10] <CS5> Anyone know why a HDD might show as a floppy1
[09:11] <CS5> I dont know of a floppy with 38 GB free space
[09:11] <trakinas> i better be going for now. need to see the day light for change
[09:11] <vedavox> no, I downloaded the latest fglrx this morining, installed, left with 'AMD Testing Use Only' on my screen, and now they put the stable back to the old drivers
[09:11] <CS5> Vedavox: OMG, I'd freak out.
[09:11] <trakinas> CS5: maybe is a magalomaniac floppy
[09:11] <CS5> Lol
[09:12] <vedavox> external HD?
[09:12] <CS5> no internal
[09:13] <vedavox> its on /dev/fd1
[09:13] <vedavox> you could just rename it
[09:13] <CS5> Yes
[09:13] <CS5> ok
[09:13] <CS5> ty
[09:13] <CS5> I try to mount it and it says not a block device
[09:13] <CS5> so rename to hda and Im good?
[09:14] <trakinas> gtg! cheers folks!
[09:14] <vedavox> no forget the rename, I was joking, ha it got a filesystem on it?
[09:14] <CS5> NTFS....
[09:14] <CS5> Wait....wrong...
[09:14] <vedavox> do you know what its device location should be?
[09:14] <CS5> My ntfs only has 12-18 GB free so probably not
[09:15] <CS5> and the only other one I have is this one that linux is on
[09:15] <CS5> HDA1
[09:15] <KaslePro> how do i update rythmbox music player anyone?
[09:15] <CS5> for ntfs.
[09:15] <cloakable> KaslePro: apt-get update & apt-get upgrade
[09:16] <cloakable> If there's a upgrade available, it'll upgrade it :)
[09:16] <vedavox> CS5: do 'df -h' in a shell and see what it says
[09:17] <CS5> vedavox: http://pastebin.com/ma8b321a
[09:18] <vedavox> or if its not mounted and you are sure its hda1 use 'pmount /dev/hda1'
[09:18] <jhutchins> Perhaps it's /dev/fd0 or /dev/floppy
[09:19] <CS5> no i am not sure now.
[09:19] <CS5> My Computer shows totally different stuff than this
[09:19] <cloakable> fd0 is the floppy drive. Corresponds to A:/ on Windurz :)
[09:19] <vedavox> oh deer, its time to go get some beer
[09:19] <CS5> floppy1 shows 31.5 GB free.
[09:19] <vedavox> oooh I'm a poet
[09:20] <KaslePro> the rythmbox music player says that i can not play the file beacause i don't have the nessesary plug-ins.. what shuld i do?
[09:20] <CS5> Vedavox: and you didnt even know it
[09:20] <vedavox> from your df, thats your linux root
[09:20] <cloakable> CS5: What does /etc/fstab say about it?
[09:20] <kharloss> hi i have a problem. i have two computers in the same class  81.196.x.x  both  rutable IP`s . I`m in a big LAN network . My both computers are in the same Switch , Traficc bettween them is verry  verry slow . Any Ideeas ?
[09:20] <jhutchins> CS5: Let's try the following: mount, then fdisk -l
[09:21] <KaslePro>  the rythmbox music player says that i can not play the file beacause i don't have the nessesary plug-ins.. what shuld i do? please help.. i'm a newbie
[09:21] <jhutchins> KaslePro: Play it with amarok?
[09:21] <jhutchins> !find rythmbox
[09:21] <CS5> http://pastebin.com/m35efbe69
[09:21] <ubotu> Package/file rythmbox does not exist in feisty
[09:22] <jhutchins> CS5: Ugh.  When automount goes bad.
[09:23] <CS5> Oh yes.
[09:23] <jhutchins> CS5: pastebin your fstab please.
[09:23] <jhutchins> CS5: The system appears to be running normally?
[09:23] <CS5> that last pastebin was the fstab
[09:23] <cloakable> jhutchins: He did :P
[09:24] <CS5> http://pastebin.com/m35efbe69
[09:24] <CS5> Oh yes
[09:24] <CS5> works great
[09:24] <CS5> Perfect other than that
[09:25] <jhutchins> CS5: This has survived a reboot?
[09:25] <CS5> Many times.
[09:25] <jhutchins> Ok, then it needs to be fixed.  I'd start out by removing the two floppy entries completely.
[09:25] <danya> can someone plz take a look at the update output .. after I've added the wine repos .. I keep getting no installation candidate error .. I'm on feisty 64-bit http://pastebin.ca/628122
[09:25] <CS5> ok
[09:25] <jhutchins> umount them.
[09:26] <CS5> Neither are mounted in Computer:///
[09:26] <jhutchins> CS5: Ignore any GUI tools for now until you get this fixed.
[09:26] <CS5> ok
[09:26] <jhutchins> CS5: That's probably what got you into this mess.
[09:26] <CS5> remove from fstab?
[09:27] <jhutchins> sudo umount /media/floppy0 /media/floppy1
[09:27] <jhutchins> CS5: kdesu kate /etc/fstab, remove the two lines.
[09:27] <CS5> k
[09:27] <jhutchins> CS5: Where is the data on /dev/scd0 supposed to go?
[09:27] <CS5> done and saved.
[09:27] <danya> anyone :(
[09:28] <jhutchins> danya: Hang in there a bit.
[09:28] <danya> lol ok
[09:28] <CS5> I am not sure/
[09:29] <KaslePro> what shuld i do to make rythmbox media player play mp3 files? please help, i'm a newbie
[09:29] <jhutchins> CS5: What is it?
[09:29] <randy> okay, i got my sound to work through my motherboard but not my soundcard. Anyway to switch it?
[09:29] <CS5> I have an internal dvdrom/cdburner and an external dvd burner
[09:29] <CS5> 2 internal hdd
[09:29] <KaslePro>  what shuld i do to make rythmbox media player play mp3 files? please help, i'm a newbie
[09:29] <CS5> 1 ntfs and 1 linux with swap
[09:29] <CS5> ext3
[09:30] <jhutchins> CS5: You're not sure which scd0 is?
[09:30] <CS5> Not sure, no.
[09:31] <CS5> Is there a way to tell. Remember I am fairly new to linux
[09:31] <KaslePro>  what shuld i do to make rythmbox media player play mp3 files? please help, i'm a newbie
[09:31] <jhutchins> sudo fdisk -l
[09:31] <randy> !MP3
[09:31] <jhutchins> That will list everything.
[09:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:32] <jhutchins> KaslePro: Please be patient and don't repeat while your original question is still on-screen.
[09:32] <lontra> !wine
[09:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:32] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jhutchins: Might want to rephrase that. His screen might be smaller than yours. >_>;
[09:32] <CS5> jhutchins: http://pastebin.com/m76ae649d
[09:33] <lontra> danya: it's possible that repo is just down ... are you just trying to get the amd64 package?
[09:33] <Kimppa> Hello. Can someone recommend a good network trafic monitoring tool for kde?
[09:33] <danya> lontra : yes .. since I'm on a 64-bit
[09:34] <Kimppa> *traffic
[09:34] <lontra> danya: ok ... copy this into a terminal:  wget- c http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/feisty/wine_0.9.41~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1_amd64.deb
[09:34] <lontra> danya: then:  sudo dpkg -i wine*
[09:34] <KaslePro> can someone please tell me how to make rythmbox or aero to play mp3 files??
[09:34] <lontra> KaslePro: someone already did
[09:34] <CS5> Jhutchins: If I had to Guess I'd say its the CdBurner. But guessing hasnt ended well under linux
[09:34] <lontra> KaslePro: look at the factoid from ubotu that randy invoked
[09:35] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !codecs | KaslePro
[09:35] <ubotu> KaslePro: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:36] <danya> lontra : sudo wget- c?
[09:36] <lontra> KaslePro: also there is no need to repeat as often as you are ... it annoys people and makes them not want to help you
[09:36] <lontra> danya: no need for sudo wget -c ... just wget -c
[09:38] <danya> lontra : ok :) thanks I'll get back to u once It's done :)
[09:38] <lontra> danya: np
[09:39] <LadySerena> ugh
[09:39] <LadySerena> I'm about to uninstall all kubuntu kde packages.
[09:41] <CS5> JHutchins: Is all lost for me?
[09:41] <randy> any help with my sound card? anyone?
[09:42] <servidor> hi, i wanto to mount an ltsp server. i have the dvd of kubuntu 7.04, does it brings the ltsp pakage?
[09:42] <StoneNewt> is there anyway to remove all packages in kubuntu that are *not* part of the standard install?
[09:45] <elite1> StoneNewt, why dont u do a complete re-install?
[09:46] <StoneNewt> well I'd then have to get all the updates etc...
[09:47] <eurico> hello. I can't watch movies on Kubuntu.
[09:47] <lontra> servidor: not by default
[09:47] <lontra> eurico: add medibuntu repo and install libdvdcss2 and w32codecs
[09:47] <lontra> !medibuntu
[09:47] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:48] <elite1> has any one here played red alert2? and now how to get it to run on kubuntu?
[09:48] <eurico> lontra: sorry but I don't understand what you say. How can I do this? I'm still a noob on Linux
[09:48] <StoneNewt> if I could just remove all the packages from the system that aren't in the base install I wouldn't have to reconfig etc...
[09:48] <elite1>  has any one here played red alert2? and now how to get it to run on kubuntu?
[09:48] <danya> lontra : how to make sure if wine is working ?
[09:48] <StoneNewt> I have but on windows sorry
[09:48] <lontra> eurico: go to www.medibuntu.org follow the directions for how to add it to /etc/apt/sources.list and then install w32codecs and libdvdcss2
[09:49] <eurico> lontra: ok
[09:49] <lontra> danya: just type wine in a terminal should be enough
[09:49] <lontra> eurico: http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php
[09:49] <vmuser> http://
[09:49] <vmuser> hi..i wonder if a kernel made for a distro could be compiled in another distro?
[09:50] <lontra> vmuser: compiled ... sure
[09:50] <lontra> vmuser: a binary installed ... no
[09:50] <lontra> vmuser: get the kernel source
[09:51] <vmuser> ok..my question is ... sorry..i know that this is not the room i should be in..but at suse they cant answer me... i found the kernel i need.. 2.6.21 but it is made for Fedora ... I am running Suse... do u think i could install that kernel in my Suse?
[09:51] <StoneNewt> vmuser: just get hold of the kernel source for that distro, the config file and build the kernel
[09:51] <danya> lontra :http://pastebin.ca/628164 does this means its working ?
[09:51] <vmuser> im really sorry and know that this is not the right room
[09:52] <lontra> danya: yup that means it's installed
[09:52] <vmuser> im quite new to linux... am i wrong..but a kernel can be actually installed in any distro? I mean.,.the same kernel runs in all distro?
[09:52] <lontra> danya: now you got to find yourself a windows program to test ;)
[09:53] <servidor> t
[09:53] <danya> lontra : thank u :) ..
[09:53] <kalman> hi, is this channel ok for gutsy ?
[09:53] <lontra> danya: no
[09:53] <lontra> kalman: depends ... best to go to #ubuntu+1
[09:54] <lontra> danya:  no problem :)
[09:54] <kalman> sorry :-D
[09:54] <servidor> lontra: thanks, a have found a page, if i need more help i will ask here
[09:54] <eurico> lontra: I've added the medibuntu repository. Now how can I install the pther things you said?
[09:54] <lontra> eurico: go to a teriminal and type:  sudo apt-get install w32codecs libdvdcss2
[09:55] <eurico> lontra: ok
[09:55] <lontra> eurico: if that doesn't work paste on www.pastebin.ca your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:56] <StoneNewt> vmuser: http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/pub/doc/suse/suse9.1/adminguide9.1/ch11.html
[09:56] <StoneNewt> ^^ I think that's what you're looking for
[09:56] <vmuser> thanks a lot... will check now
[09:57] <eurico> lontra: It's installed. No which media does ir work for?
[09:57] <eurico> lontra: It's installed. Now which media does ir work for?
[09:57] <StoneNewt> you can get your kernels from www.kernel.org
[09:57] <vmuser> :)
[09:57] <lontra> eurico: it works for dvds and for window media files, quicktime, realtime, etc.
[09:57] <eurico> lontra: ok. I'm going to test it now
[09:58] <vmuser> yes...ive been at www.kernel.org ... i think the best solution for me is to patch the kernel instead of compiliing it... or what do u say?
[09:58] <StoneNewt> vmuser: building a kernel isn't such a big deal if you're slow and methodical...
[09:58] <lontra> vmuser: yeah it's actually pretty easy if you take the time to read :)
[09:59] <eurico> lontra: it's working almost perfectly. But it can't open .mpg files :(
[09:59] <StoneNewt> it gets intresting when you try to slim the kernel down to minimal w/out modules
[09:59] <vmuser> right...cause my probl is with hardware compatobility...i need the 2.6.21 ... and just cant find the rpm for suse
[09:59] <vmuser> will download from kernel.org
[10:00] <lontra> eurico: i'm not sure ... the only other thing that i can suggest is that you install vlc or mplayer as they tend to be better media players than kaffeine
[10:00] <StoneNewt> actually what I do is build the
[10:00] <lontra> eurico: also w32codecs can't play all codecs still . . .but most
[10:01] <eurico> lontra: ok. Will I'll be able to watch also, windows media files by the internet?
[10:01] <lontra> eurico: install mplayer-mozilla ... sudo apt-get install mplayer-mozilla
[10:01] <StoneNewt> kernel with as much as I can as a module then load the modules for one specific piece of hardware at a time then once I've got everything loaded I reboot and just load thosem note what modules are loaded and build those into the kernel
[10:01] <lontra> eurico: err.. sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[10:01] <StoneNewt> meh
[10:02] <StoneNewt> anyway anyone know is you can remove all packages that weren't in the standard install?
[10:03] <lontra> eurico: this plugins should also work in konqueror ... after you've installed them open konqueror -> settings -> configure konqueror -> plugins -> scan for new plugins
[10:09] <eurico> lontra: OMG!!! It's working! Goodbye Windoze! FInally I can see videos! Thank you very much for your help
[10:12] <Agent_bob> i have this  http://intelikey.pastebin.us/38353   client side,   but what do i need server side for  this   http://intelikey.pastebin.us/38354   ?
[10:12] <Daisuke_Ido> another one leaves MS.
[10:13] <intelikey> it's working no errors,   i just need some advice on the etc/network/interfaces   file
[10:13] <Daisuke_Ido> will he stay on the path of righteousness?  no one knows, but we can hope
[10:15] <Agent_bob> anyone  ?
[10:16] <elite1_> hey how can i get redalert2 to work on kubuntu?
[10:16] <kalman> with wine ?
[10:17] <kalman> elite1_: have you tried with wine ?
[10:18] <ghosttiger> hello
[10:19] <Agent_bob> no body knows  ????   come on guys ?
[10:21] <elite1_> kalman, where do you get the program wine?
[10:22] <kirke> hello, somebody knows how to modify 'resolv.conf' permanently???
[10:24] <Richlv> hi. kubuntu 7.04 bootable cd, bluetooth connection (as you can see, working :) ) - i can ssh, ping etc
[10:24] <Richlv> but - konqueror is not working
[10:25] <Richlv> i tried resetting proxy settings and autodetecting them, didn't work (and should work without them anyway)
[10:26] <Richlv> and that ubuntu__ was my konversation client
[10:26] <dijenerate> hi all
[10:26] <Richlv> it seems the konq is the only one not working
[10:26] <Richlv> any ideas ?
[10:26] <dijenerate> anyone got a clue where I could get some help with kubuntu on a Raon Digital Vega?
[10:26] <dijenerate> http://www.dynamism.com/vega/main.shtml
[10:26] <dijenerate> I need to get some of the hardware working and could really use a hand
[10:27] <Richlv> running konq from konsole and attempting to load page shows an error (probably useless) :
[10:27] <Richlv> ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.6/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)
[10:28] <Richlv> the only error konq itself shows :
[10:28] <Richlv> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com
[10:29] <elite1_> is DHCP automatic?
[10:30] <Agent_bob> elite1_ yes   and i've never been able to set it up correctly yet
[10:30] <elite1_> weird
[10:31] <Richlv> it seems kate can't connect to remote hosts, too
[10:31] <elite1_> i had problems with networking (wireless) i put my ip adress the one i connect to in on mannual and then put DCHP back to auto so it remebers my connecting ip
[10:31] <Richlv> kbuildsycoca fails with
[10:31] <Richlv> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[10:32] <Richlv> don't know whether this is connected
[10:32] <elite1_> this way gateway and dns servers are auto but the ip isnt seems to work fine
[10:32] <blackneo>  holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:32] <Richlv> it seems that only some k* stuff is failing
[10:32] <blackneo> pppppppppapapapa
[10:33] <Agent_bob> Richlv that's not a "fail"  and it's normal for that message to appear  "kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!"
[10:34] <Richlv> ok, one problem to worry about less
[10:34] <Richlv> any ideas why only konq/kate fails ?
[10:34] <Richlv> i am ircing happy from the same connection :)
[10:34] <Agent_bob> Richlv   firewall ?
[10:34] <Agent_bob> loop back    down ?
[10:34] <Richlv> hmm. on default bootable kubuntu cd outgoing one ?
[10:35] <Agent_bob> Richlv no livecd will not have a firewall by default
[10:35] <curtis> ppl! could u help me out with something! can any1 suggest a graphical interface for pon/poff and packets sent/recieved for ppp connection!
[10:35] <Agent_bob> check lo        ifconfig
[10:35] <Richlv> loopback is up
[10:35] <lontra> danya: i just discovered under the system settings -> advanced tab an option for windows applications you might be interested in checking out
[10:36] <Richlv> though i wonder why would konq fail if it wasd down
[10:37] <Agent_bob> Richlv because  127.0.0.1  would be unreachable       you know, the place you get all your 'warez' from...
[10:37] <azaghal> Hello. I'm trying to get Geforce4 420 Go 32M working on (K)ubuntu Feisty. At first I installed *9755 drivers, which, of course, weren't appropriate for this one. Then I installed older drivers (that support this card). But when I run modprobe nvidia, it seems to call for the *9755 module, which is kind of weird :/ Any thoughts on this one?
[10:38] <Richlv> Agent_bob, well, it is available anyway :)
[10:38] <Richlv> and, as i said, it seems to be only konq and thigs relaying on it
[10:38] <Richlv> everything else works fine
[10:38] <Richlv> both resolving and connecting
[10:39] <Agent_bob> yes   just answering the Q     and that's about like a cd error...    did you check the disk ?
[10:39] <Richlv> no, not yet
[10:39] <Agent_bob> Richlv could be.
[10:39] <Richlv> but it's fresh from the kubuntu cover :)
[10:39] <Agent_bob> did they burn it or did you ?
[10:39] <Richlv> they
[10:39] <Richlv> this one i got in the mail
[10:40] <Agent_bob> hmmm check it anyway
[10:40] <Agent_bob> nobody's perfect
[10:40] <danya> lontra : I'm on kubuntu gnome .. and couldnt find that option :) .. I didnt try installing a windows application yet .. lol tom :) ..
[10:40] <Agent_bob> distro packagers are people too      errr at least some of them are.
[10:41] <crimsun> ...
[10:41] <azaghal> Any ideas if using Envy is a stupid thing to do?
[10:41] <Richlv> i might try that tomorrow, maybe...
[10:41] <Agent_bob> azaghal would be for me.  my nvidia card is not supported
[10:42] <lontra> danya: ok ... so your running gnome?  if you run kde it's in the system settings tab ... i've never used it but it looks interesting
[10:42] <Richlv> oh well, if anybody gets a good idea, just hilight me with it on the same line ;)
[10:42] <Agent_bob> Richlv   real life   !
[10:42] <azaghal> Hm...
[10:50] <Nitro> ciao a tutti, posso fare una domanda?
[10:51] <Nitro> qualcuno pu aiutarmi x piacre?
[10:53] <K-Ryan> Nitro: language?
[10:53] <kalman> Nitro: I believe you are italian
[10:54] <K-Ryan> !italian
[10:54] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:54] <kalman> he is italian indeed
[10:55] <Nitro> yes, i'm italian
[10:55] <Nitro> can I speak italian or I have to speak english=
[10:56] <vzduch> Nitro: see above
[10:56] <Nitro> ok i speak english.
[10:56] <Nitro> I need help..I had a problem with the us of RAM
[10:56] <Nitro> is ever 900-950 MB/1024mb
[10:57] <Nitro> the disk cache uses 51%
[10:57] <Nitro> can I create a partition where i put the cache disk?
[10:58] <vzduch> you should indeed.. that's what swap is for
[10:58] <vzduch> !swap
[10:58] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[10:58] <Nitro> i have 3 gb for swap
[10:58] <Nitro> but is ever empty
[10:59] <Nitro> *always
[10:59] <blackneo> molo :D
[11:03] <NickPresta> Nitro, if your swap is always empty, then you're usually fine...
[11:05] <Nitro> but my ram is always full!
[11:06] <vzduch> well, that's what it's for ;)
[11:06] <NickPresta> Nitro, use `free -m` to see what is really going on. You could have a lot of it cached or in the buffer
[11:06] <fartname> can anyone help me with compiling original programs with the bash makefile language?
[11:06] <Nitro> Mem:          1011        used:965        free 45          0         21        480
[11:07] <vzduch> fartname: ?
[11:08] <fartname> how can i include include directories to look through in the makefile?
[11:08] <stdin> Nitro: that's normal, most of it will be file cache
[11:10] <fartname> im trying to gcc compile with a makefile, how do i tell gcc to look in certain directories for include files?
[11:11] <yeniklasor> With which text editor can I edit SQL files? My sql file is over 100 MB and my editors ins't responding.
[11:12] <jjwj> why id 3dFighter an eroneos nickna,e?
[11:12] <SlimeyPete> yeniklasor: I expect vim will deal with a large file quite well
[11:13] <threeDeeFighter> can anyone help me with gcc and makefiles?
[11:13] <threeDeeFighter> someone help me
[11:14] <threeDeeFighter> can anyone help me with gcc and makefiles?
[11:14] <_dac> i can not , i/,m new
[11:15] <threeDeeFighter> at least theres an answer for me
[11:15] <yeniklasor> ok
[11:15] <threeDeeFighter> how do i tell gcc to look in certain directories for include files?
[11:16] <usamahashimi> hello everyone!
[11:16] <threeDeeFighter> tell me hash
[11:17] <_dac> try/join #ubuntu
[11:17] <usamahashimi> how can i make numlock to turn on at system startup?
[11:17] <threeDeeFighter> find a boot file and find the function?
[11:17] <SlimeyPete> usamahashimi: check your BIOS
[11:17] <threeDeeFighter> i mean "and put the function in there somewhere, the boot file?"
[11:18] <threeDeeFighter> i dont wanna check my bios man
[11:18] <usamahashimi> SlimeyPete: its ok in bios but nomlock is still turned off when kdm appears
[11:18] <vzduch> SlimeyPete: it's not a BIOS function, it can be done somewhere in the init scripts.. but don't ask me where
[11:18] <pauljw> usamahashimi: not sure but in my distro it's a service that you need to tell to run at boot.
[11:19] <threeDeeFighter> ill boo yu foo!
[11:19] <_dac> check your BIOS>>>NOW
[11:19] <usamahashimi> pauljw: which service?
[11:19] <threeDeeFighter> god dude if i learn bash script, im commin after ya, im goin to hell in a nazis handbasket
[11:20] <pauljw> numlock service
[11:20] <armanis_> if ftp and irc are working and internet not ? it's "normal"?
[11:20] <usamahashimi> pauljw: "numlock" is that the name of service?
[11:21] <pauljw> usamahashimi: like i said, i don't use kubuntu but that's what it is in pclos.
[11:21] <_dac> if you're not living your life right you're for sure going to outer darkness
[11:21] <threeDeeFighter> can anyone help me put include directories in a makefile?
[11:21] <Raystlin_FM> usamahashimi: you can turn it on from the keyboard module of kcontrol
[11:21] <threeDeeFighter> is it just me or is all of windows in darkness?
[11:21] <SlimeyPete> did you forget to turn your monitor on?
[11:21] <threeDeeFighter> you cant justy steal a deckade from me without expecting me to sue people
[11:22] <_dac> hee hee
[11:22] <usamahashimi> Raystlin_FM: but that module works after logging in and i want to turn it on at kdm screen
[11:22] <threeDeeFighter> i dont wanna buy your crap hole computer idiot products anymore
[11:22] <threeDeeFighter> all you do is spank the crap out of me
[11:22] <threeDeeFighter> im tired of buying your crap hole products to go to school on and about
[11:22] <threeDeeFighter> ive had 34 computers go down on me
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:23] <threeDeeFighter> can you stop crap hole spanking my wanna be business so bad?
[11:24] <TheCreationist> lol if you're going to be an idiot and flood a channel, at least have the common decency to make sense!
[11:24] <pauljw> lol
[11:24] <_dac> lol
[11:30] <vzduch> pauljw: PCLOS is quite nice, but the choice of packages is too darn small..
[11:32] <kirke> hello, I can't send attachments trought Kmail, somebody has any idea why?
[11:33] <CS5> JHutchins: Are you ever coming back?
[11:33] <CS5> lol
[11:33] <pauljw_vm> vzduch: it is small, but it's stable and i'm not lacking anything from over 6000 packages.
[11:34] <pauljw_vm> but this is off topic here... :)  i like kubuntu just not as much...
[11:39] <CS5> Kirke: How come you haven't upgraded?
[11:39] <CS5> Kirke: Just a thought I did not too long ago and was very impressed by the changes and the functionality
[11:40] <CS5> lol
[11:40] <CS5> he's gone already
[11:43] <Kr4t05> For some reason, I can use APT
[11:43] <Kr4t05> It keeps telling me that something else is using it.
[11:43] <CS5> Update manager open?
[11:43] <Kr4t05> CS5: No
[11:43] <CS5> Or package manager
[11:43] <Kr4t05> CS5: Nope
[11:43] <CS5> lol
[11:44] <CS5> im done, those are the only to stop me with mine so far
[11:44] <Kr4t05> Trust me, I'm smarter than that. ;)
[11:44] <CS5> sry
[11:44] <Kr4t05> Gah...
[11:44] <Kr4t05> Is there anyone that can help me?
[11:45] <Kr4t05> I've already tried killall -9 apt|adept|dpkg
[11:45] <Kr4t05> Isn't there something else I can do?
[11:45] <Kr4t05> Hello?
[11:45] <Dragnslcr> !aptfix
[11:45] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:46] <Kr4t05> Thank you.
[11:47] <LadySerena> how would one go about restoring KDE to the defaults instead of the kubuntu customized crap?
[11:47] <MeMMM> Hi all, i have a wpa2psk related problem with an rt61 wifi card. The iwconfig always says  "Encryption key:off" When i add the correct aprameters to it. How can i solve this?
[11:48] <MeMMM> LadySerena > apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-default-settings
[11:48] <MeMMM> or something like that...
[11:48] <LadySerena> I did that
[11:48] <MeMMM> but be sure, it's sucks up your config at all
[11:48] <Disabled> sorry, how can i put in kubuntu on desktop the "My Computer" shorcout?
[11:48] <LadySerena> it still has kubuntu custom shit
[11:48] <MeMMM> oh, then remove .kde and start a new life:)
[11:48] <MeMMM> where you has that?
[11:48] <MeMMM> find for "kubuntu" in packages
[11:49] <vzduch> !language | LadySerena
[11:49] <ubotu> LadySerena: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:49] <Dragnslcr> Disabled- right click on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to Location
[11:49] <vzduch> your language isn't quite lady-like..
[11:49] <LadySerena> it still has the custom kubuntu toolbars, no desktop icons, and the "Storage Media" icon goes to the wrong place
[11:49] <Daisuke_Ido> Disabled: you are aware this isn't windows, right?
[11:49] <Dragnslcr> vzduch- come on, this is the Internet. It's not like anyone claiming to be female actually is
[11:49] <Daisuke_Ido> so change them to your likeing.
[11:50] <Daisuke_Ido> welcome to the internet, where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents < such a classic line
[11:50] <Dragnslcr> Hehe, I was just thinking that
[11:51] <LadySerena> I'm thinking of just removing all the KDE packages, and installing from source
[11:51] <Dragnslcr> The Internet: men will be men, boys will be boys, and girls will be 40-year-old FBI agents
[11:51] <LadySerena> in BSD, KDE wasn't modified, and I liked it that way
[11:54] <randy> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool (I get that error, how do i get that?)
[11:55] <rami> hi, i'm starting to get tired of the fact that i cant scroll when the mouse is in a flash animation any workaround?
[11:55] <lontra> what's the kubuntu ksplash package called?
[11:56] <rami> to enable scroll?'
[11:56] <Sanne> !info ksplash
[11:56] <ubotu> ksplash: the KDE splash screen. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.1 (feisty), package size 707 kB, installed size 1340 kB
[11:56] <Sanne> that one, lontra?
[11:58] <Daisuke_Ido> rami: no, it's like that everywhere, that's a flash thing
[11:58] <Daisuke_Ido> learn to cope :)
[11:58] <rami> ok....
[11:58] <rami> :(
[11:58] <Daisuke_Ido> though i agree, it sucks pretty bad
[11:59] <rami> you said it!
[12:02] <Dragnslcr> Flash intercepts all input
[12:03] <Dragnslcr> Which is a real pain when you press F5 to refresh a page and nothing happens
[12:03] <randy> where can i get clib 2.0?
[12:04] <randy> never mind thats a capital g x_x
[12:05] <vzduch> o0
[12:06] <randy> lets see if configure works now