[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #127098 in blueprint "Superseded and obsolete blueprints should not appear in dependancy graphs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127098
[10:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooood evening Launchpadders!
[10:02] <mpt> kiko-zzz, yes, I told matsubara yesterday how to find most of the non-fitting portlet titles (look for any that try to use context/title or context/displayname in their headings)
[10:53] <kblin> hi folks
[10:53] <kblin> how do I create a project group?
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #127111 in malone "F-Spot Photo Manager blocked " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127111
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #127126 in malone "Register a product while adding an upstream task" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127126
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #127138 in malone "Can't add/remove tags while changing a bug's status" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127138
[01:53] <Kmos> bug 126224
[01:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 126224 in malone "When remove an attachment, remove also the comment entry" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126224
[01:53] <Kmos> can someone assign it? it's easy to fix
[02:23] <Hobbsee> morning cprov!
[02:50] <mpt> Kmos, it's not really easy to fix, it would require database changes
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #127155 in rosetta "Copy icon is non-obvious and ugly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127155
[02:51] <Kmos> mpt: i think it only need at "edit attachment" to provide an SQL instruction to remove the comment ID from bug id
[02:51] <Kmos> :)
[02:52] <mpt> kblin, creating a project group is restricted to Launchpad admins. Go to the "Launchpad" project and click "Ask a question", to request that a group be created for you.
[02:52] <mpt> Kmos, no, we'll also need to check that the comment didn't contain any text
[02:52] <Kmos> :-)
[02:52] <Kmos> mpt: right
[02:52] <mpt> because if it did, we should keep the comment, removing just the attachment
[02:53] <Kmos> exactly
[02:53] <mpt> I reported a bug a while ago that we should give you up to 5 minutes to remove a comment
[02:53] <mpt> (in case you said something really really silly)
[02:54] <Kmos> yeah, or to edit it to fix some tpo
[02:54] <mpt> But it would be quite bizarre if you could delete a comment that had an attachment, but not delete a comment that didn't have an attachment.
[02:54] <Kmos> *typo
[02:55] <Kmos> I think the comments "permission to delete" only the ones each one made
[02:55] <Kmos> not the comments from other people
[02:55] <Kmos> but that will kill the conversation
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #127160 in rosetta ""Add more lines" button is too prominent" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127160
[02:56] <Kmos> the attachment isn't something that kills the conversation, if it doesn't have any text on it
[02:58] <Kmos> so that's the idea :) i think..
[02:58] <Kmos> mpt: cya.. time to go work
[03:04] <Hobbsee> please stop reporting that you're offline.
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #127162 in rosetta "If JS is off, "Add more lines" buttons are still present but do nothing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127162
[03:12] <mpt> Hobbsee, that's bug 121828
[03:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121828 in launchpad "Launchpad says it's "offline for maintenance" when it isn't" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121828
[03:12] <Hobbsee> mpt: yummy
[03:30] <mwhudson> the maintenance page is the "really" the load balancer's 50x page, isn't it?
[03:35] <mpt> mwhudson, mthaddon or stub would be able to answer that, but neither of them are here
[03:37] <mpt> Feel free to confirm the bug report, though :-)
[03:38] <mwhudson> i'll put it on my daily "bug tom" list
[03:38] <mwhudson> (everyone has one of these, right?)
[04:05] <mpt> gahhh, just clicked "Subscribe To This Bug" by mistake again
[04:14] <kblin> mpt: ok, thanks :) I'll do that.. do I have to remove the project I created for that?
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #127170 in launchpad-answers "Need a more consistent FAQ icon" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127170
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #127171 in rosetta "Rosetta experts not allowed to "Change translators"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127171
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #127172 in launchpad "Javascript error on answers.launchpad.net" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127172
[04:16] <mpt> kblin, what are the projects you want to group together?
[04:18] <kblin> I've created a Project "worldforge" that should group.. ember, cyphesis, sear and a couple of other projects we probably didn't create yet.. I need to look up the exact spelling of the other projects,t oo
[04:19] <kblin> mpt: give me a minute or two
[04:21] <kblin> mpt: looks like so far, only "ember" created by erik-hjortsberg is created
[04:21] <kblin> but there'll be more coming in :)
[04:34] <mpt> kblin, I suggest that once you have three of the projects registered (to demonstrate that you're serious about needing a project group), you make a request at <https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad> asking for the worldforge group to be deleted and replaced by a project group for those projects.
[04:37] <kblin> mpt: sure thing
[04:37] <kblin> we didn't register most of them yet because we realized that getting a super-project wasn't as straightforward as we thought :)
[04:37] <kblin> we can easily do that now :)
[04:39] <kiko-afk> kblin, it's actually easy to get them registered, but we do look to see whether there's sufficient evidence that it actually is a project group.
[04:40] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk!
[04:40] <kiko-afk> Hobbsee, Hobbsee 
[04:40] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:41] <kblin> kiko-afk: fair enough
[04:41] <kblin> kiko-afk: I'm asking for http://worldforge.org/, but I'm poking the devs to register their subprojects now
[04:41] <kblin> we're pretty exited about the infrastructure launchpad can provide for us, so we're happy to play by the rules of your sandbox as long as they're sane :)
[04:44] <kiko-afk> kblin, that's great to hear. just ping me when you are ready and I'll set the project up for you.
[04:45] <kiko-afk> kblin, how are you finding launchpad so far?
[04:46] <kblin> I like the web interface I've seen so far.
[04:46] <kblin> also, given that most of our members prefer to code instead of running various services, a centralized bug tracker will be nice
[04:47] <kiko-afk> it's nice indeed to have somebody else to take care of your infrastructure.
[04:48] <kblin> I haven't looked at the bazaar branches yet, but I think the "answers" system could come handy
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #127178 in soyuz "change-override.py broken for binary packages" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127178
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #127179 in soyuz "sync-source.py does not work: Values instance has no attribute 'target_distro'" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127179
[04:59] <kiko-afk> cprov, time to add those to RF tip? :-)
[05:00] <cprov> kiko-afk: yes, I could not resist to one more "firefighting-friday" ...
[05:06] <Hobbsee> cprov: how's my birthday present?
[05:07] <kiko-afk> cprov, :) firefighting-friday is hilarious
[05:07] <cprov> kiko-afk: if it wasn't happening with my ...
[05:07] <OgMaciel> hey guys... anyone seen Danilo around?
[05:07] <kiko-afk> OgMaciel, he;
[05:08] <kiko-afk> err
[05:08] <kiko-afk> he's at guadec OgMaciel 
[05:08] <OgMaciel> kiko-afk: oh... makes sense  :)
[05:08] <OgMaciel> kiko-afk: thanks dude
[05:09] <OgMaciel> :P
[05:14] <mwhudson> oo, mthaddon
[05:14] <mwhudson> mthaddon: you can probably answer this question:
[05:14] <mwhudson> the maintenance page is the "really" the load balancer's 50x page, isn't it?
[05:16] <kiko-afk> mwhudson, what's a  50x page?
[05:16] <mwhudson> the page you display for a http 50x error response
[05:17] <mwhudson> e.g. go to launchpad.dev locally when you haven't got a launchpad running
[05:20] <kiko-afk> ah
[05:20] <kiko-afk> I thought it had to do with fifty-x
[05:21] <mwhudson> i guess it wasn't very clear without context
[07:20] <TeTeT> what was the testing site for launchpad where content gets removed after a day or so? dogfood.launchpad.net?
[07:41] <mrevell> TeTeT: dogfood uses a snapshot from a month or so ago.
[07:41] <mrevell> TeTeT: Let me check which environment gets wiped at the end of the day.
[07:44] <mrevell> TeTeT: elmo tells me it's staging
[08:35] <kiko-afk> TeTeT, staging.
[09:09] <LarstiQ> gah, is lp _still_ in maintenance mode?
[09:10] <LarstiQ> hmno, after a refresh the bug is changed
[09:10] <Hobbsee> LarstiQ: welcome to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/121828
[09:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121828 in launchpad "Launchpad says it's "offline for maintenance" when it isn't" [Undecided,New]  
[09:11] <LarstiQ> Hobbsee: thank you, I feel much better now with this warm welcome :)
[09:11] <Hobbsee> :)
[09:16] <TeTeT> mrevell, kiko-afk thanks
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #127254 in soyuz "Display PPA whiteboard for users with lp.edit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127254
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #127257 in soyuz "Suggested reword of PPA intro text" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127257
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #127261 in launchpad "Migrate packaging links on distro series opening" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127261
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #127262 in launchpad "Send email notifications about new/changed packaging entries" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127262
[10:45] <cyberix> "You can link a registered bug tracker with a registered project in Launchpad:"
[10:45] <cyberix> How?
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #127264 in launchpad "Merge product series +ubuntupkg and +addpackage pages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127264
[10:55] <cyberix> What does linking mean here anyway?
[11:16] <kblin> hi kiko 
[11:17] <kblin> I've gone ahead and collected some more projects I'd like to merge under the WorldForge super-project.. is four enough for you or do you want me to go ahead and create projects for all the other libs we ship, too? :)
[11:17] <radix> oh cool, is worldforge switching to LP/bzr?
[11:19] <kblin> radix: partially, at least
[11:20] <kblin> we'll use launchpad for bug tracking, as well as blueprints and answers... and hopefully mentoring
[11:20] <kblin> I'm not sure if we _need_ a DVCS yet
[11:21] <radix> I see
[11:23] <kblin> one of our devs went ahead and imported his client into bazaar right away, though
[11:24] <kblin> so we'll see if that gets more people to switch
[11:24] <kblin> I don't really like CVS too much anymore
[12:11] <mantiena-baltix> cprov-afk: Hi, are you in sleep mode ? PPA builds packages for me fine, but all packages gets into main section and translation are removed :(
[12:12] <cprov-afk> mantiena-baltix: yes ... there is no auto-override for PPA, so you have to get the Section: right in you control file
[12:12] <cprov-afk> mantiena-baltix: translations are not processed for PPA
[12:13] <mantiena-baltix> maybe there is another way to force ppa system to build packages for universe? .mo files are removed from all packages, which are builded :(
[12:14] <cprov-afk> mantiena-baltix: yes, there is, fix your control file ;)
[12:17] <mantiena-baltix> cprov-afk: I didn't changed control file - it's the same, like in ubuntu (I've simply backported brasero package from Ubuntu Gutsy to Feisty and brasero is in universe)
[12:18] <mantiena-baltix> cprov-afk: look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero
[12:18] <cprov-afk> mantiena-baltix: when uploaded to ubuntu, brasero benefits of auto-overrides which will move it from main to universe automatically. there is not such feature in PPA, so use Section: universe/<section>