=== _4str1 [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-50-203.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SeveredHead [n=bojan@c-24-60-139-195.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [i=adlaiff6@nat/google/x-9a0449624953f429] has joined #ubuntu+1 === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.200.218] has joined #ubuntu+1 === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === poorenglish_ [n=poorengl@126.Red-217-126-209.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:29] Anyone here know if running an encrypted root filesystem will screw with Xen in Gutsy? I can't get Xen to boot. It says there is a kernel mismatch with Dom0. === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:39] xubuntu really struggles on 256mb ram === thompa [n=thompa@c-68-53-85-246.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:46] is it a known bug that when you unplug your laptop in gutsy that your laptop thinks your computer battery is toast and turns off? [01:47] yes === SeveredCross [n=bojan@c-24-60-139-195.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:47] (at least I have it too) [01:48] Zapek: ok ... and it's been reported? [01:48] dunno [01:48] launchpad isn't easy to search imho [01:49] Launchpad is a pain to search. [01:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/38756 har! [01:50] Launchpad bug 38756 in gnome-power-manager "Wrong power warnings + sleep" [Medium,New] [01:50] Is there a search function even? [01:50] but that's for dapper :) === martoya [n=paranoia@164.77.49.10] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:51] The bug I reported hasn't even been looked at. :( === jsestri2 [n=jj@c-24-91-149-83.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrsno [n=mrsno@cpc3-blfs6-0-0-cust294.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:56] Can anyone here give me a work around for the upgrade-manager giving me this error message? Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) === Karark|away [n=blake@planeshift/player/Karark] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Karark|away [n=blake@planeshift/player/Karark] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === thoreauputic [i=peter@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:01] jsestri2: edgy? that's feisty-1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thompa [n=thompa@c-68-53-85-246.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:12] longtra: yes, but i need edgy before i can get feisty [02:13] lontra: ^ [02:14] how bad is it to dist-upgrade with apt instead of using upgrade-manager? === lontra_ [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:17] jsestri2: not "bad" exactly - but you would probably have a lot more problems [02:18] jsestri2: you would need to re-run the upgrade, probably use apt-get -f install several times etc. etc. [02:18] thoreauputic: hmm thanks for the info, it will help me decide. Am I at risk of breaking anything badly? [02:18] jsestri2: in other words, you would need to know what you were doing :) [02:19] jsestri2: why do you want to do it that way? [02:19] thoreauputic: I can't get upgrade-manager to work, it keeps giving me: "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)" [02:20] jsestri2: try changing your apt mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list [02:20] jsestri2: for instance, remove the counry code or use a different one [02:20] thoreauputic, disovered the upgrad-manager does that for you, so I can't effect where they point to...also odd is that I can get to that file if i open that in a browswer [02:21] jsestri2: have you run sudo aptitude update ? [02:21] jsestri2: I would try that first [02:21] i believe so, but I will run it just to be sure [02:22] jsestri2: there is a wiki page about upgrades - have you read that? [02:22] !upgrade [02:22] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [02:22] jsestri2: I think it has a section about using aptitude [02:24] jsestri2: read this [02:24] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgradesManual [02:25] thoreauputic: Wow, that looks great! thanks [02:25] jsestri2: but be aware that you will probably have to do some post-upgrade fixing with apt-get -f install etc [02:25] thoreauputic, thats not a huge deal, I just wanted to avoid getting stuck with a half installation where i couldn't go forward or back [02:26] jsestri2: no worries - just don't be surprised when you have to fiddle to get things going :) [02:26] thoreauputic, I've been on ubuntu for 2 years now, but I've been waiting because I hate redo'ing my custom drivers === blackgoth [n=Blackgot@c51470fc5.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:26] jsestri2: OK - well if you know your way around dpkg and apt-get and aptitude you should manage it [02:27] thoreauputic: awsome, thanks for your help [02:27] jsestri2: you're welcome [02:27] jsestri2: just don't blame me if it breaks ;p [02:27] thoreauputic: lol, I'll try. BTW are you a dev or ??? [02:28] no, I'm just an obsessive op with an Ubuntu addiction problem ;) [02:28] lol, you should channel some of that into contributing [02:28] jsestri2: this is part of my contribution :) [02:29] i suppose it is...I always forget the support people, my bad, many thanks, keep up the good work [02:29] I am also working on a live CD without X as a tutorial for CLI phobics :) [02:30] without X? [02:30] yup [02:31] with framebuffer, runs videos using mplayer, picture viewer with fbi , graphical browsing with links2 -g [02:31] thoreauputic: thats kinda cool. I wouldn't have thought of something like that [02:31] plus streaming audio etc from bash script menus [02:32] The user can navigate from menus by choosing options [02:32] so you're looking to get people back onto the terminal? [02:33] no, just to show them that the terminal is powerful and things can be done there === blizzow [n=jburns@206.61.49.5] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [02:33] as it's a live CD only, they can play in it without fear === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:34] heh i can't imagine life without the term, I'd die personally [02:34] clicking is amazingly slow [02:35] well, since we have so many windows refugees, a lot of them have no clue what can be done without X using a tty [02:35] that is a good point [02:35] this is just an attempt to show/demonstrate what is under the surface in GNU/Linux === martoya [n=paranoia@164.77.49.10] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:37] how different is fiesty? === Adlai [i=adlaiff6@nat/google/x-b53311a2789714fb] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:38] jsestri2: different from what? [02:38] or do you mean gutsy ? [02:38] dapper [02:38] ah OK [02:38] then whats the diff rom fiesty up to what gutsy is so far? [02:39] newer kernel newer gnome newer gcc [02:39] updates packages [02:39] One issue: the need for native-res framebuffer. [02:39] updated* [02:39] well, feisty has, for example, dialogs that ask you if you want to install codecs when you click on something it can't hadle out of the box [02:39] With vesafb, there's no way for me to run at my LCD's native resolution. [02:39] thats a cool feature [02:39] Instead, I have to use nvidiafb, with acceleration disabled. [02:40] And then once nvidiafb is loaded, nvidia cannot be loaded until I reboot. [02:40] Er, I mean, loading nvidiafb blocks nvidia, and nvidiafb is not unloadable. [02:40] DanaG: actually the whole framebuffer thing is pretty arcane ( I've been working it out for my CD) [02:41] DanaG: vga=789 seems to be a compromise that works OK for my purposes, but it needs testing on other hardware [02:41] 789? [02:42] Oh yeah, there are NO widescreen framebuffer resolutions, at least on my system. [02:42] DanaG: yes, that is 800x600 with full colour IIRC [02:42] I use 792. [02:42] 1024x768x24. [02:42] right, that's 1024x768 [02:43] some apps insist on running suid root to access the console ( links2 -g for instance) [02:44] changing the permissions is too invasive so I'm just making my "no X" CD not installable [02:44] so far anyway [02:46] links2 -g actually has TWO modes. [02:46] fb, and directfb. [02:46] (besides any X-based modes). [02:47] Only the latter needs root access. [02:47] In addition, if you install GPM (not gnome-power-manager), you'll notice that the mouse acts differently between the two. [02:48] DanaG: yes - you forgot svgalib by the way :) [02:49] DanaG: links2 tries to use directfb if it is present [02:49] and the plain vanilla fb is horribly slow :) [02:50] also, svgalib insists on manual config of the mouse and complains if it isn't configured [02:51] thus, my current compromise is to set vga=789 and set links2 suid root ( only for the live CD I am trying to cobble together) [02:55] Safer: instead of running the browser as root, make the device writeable. [02:55] Is that safer? [02:55] DanaG: well, if it only a live CD suid root seems reasonably safe to me [02:56] i.e. anyone using it only has to sudo or su to get Total Power (tm) [02:56] and it's essentailly read-only [02:56] Which is worse: web browser as root, or framebuffer rw to all? [02:56] I don't know, to be honest [02:57] Nor do I. [02:58] You can for example add users to group tty, and make the device writeable for that group [02:58] but if that was an actual install, i think it would be against policy === onechard [n=chard@ip70-185-171-252.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:03] DanaG: to make a live CD without X look decent, a resolution like 800x600 works better than 1024x768, which results in everything appearing rather small, and by default in the top left corner - it starts to get complicated if you try to detect and adjust for everyone's monitor, too [03:04] But hey, I've only been working on this for a couple of weeks so who knows? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-165.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:21] Is a newer version of nvidia-glx going to be packaged for support for 8-series cards? [03:23] Oh yeah, one thing useful: check out hwinfo. [03:24] Too bad vesafb is compiled-in. If it were compiled as a module, or compiled in as vesafb-tng (a patch), you'd be able to select a better resolution on the fly. === TheGoodShepherd [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:24] DanaG: fb support is a bit of an afterthought in Ubuntu it seems [03:24] Yeah. [03:25] That's the one thing (the ONLY one thing) I miss about Gentoo, from the short time I tried it: nice framebuffer support. [03:25] Including fbsplash. [03:29] lunchtime - later all === Infecto [i=infecto@hydrozagadka.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === snax [n=snax@c-24-17-210-137.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@ip70-185-171-252.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:49] is medibuntu available for gutsy? [03:51] yeah [03:51] the repos are up, just not published on the site [03:52] hmm. [03:52] looks like they haven't packaged amarok 1.4.6 for gutsy though [03:54] is there no kde-games metapackage in gutsy? [03:54] well then again, neither have they for feisty (amarok) [03:54] !info kde-games gutsy [03:54] Package kde-games does not exist in gutsy [03:54] yeah, i don't see one. [03:54] either [03:54] (still working on upgrading though) [03:54] blah they broke it up into a bunch of little packages ... [03:55] !info kdegames gutsy [03:55] kdegames: games from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 21 kB, installed size 72 kB [03:55] !info kdegames feisty [03:55] kdegames: games from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 20 kB, installed size 72 kB [03:55] one word. [03:55] i see it ... [03:55] thanks === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:24] What extras does Gutsy medibuntu Amarok have over the official version? === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chowmeined [n=will_@67.170.91.193] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cables [n=caleb@216-15-119-176.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:28] I've got Tribe 2, will it update to Tribe 3 automatically? It just had normal updates, no distribution upgrade or anything. Is a "tribe" release just a milestone and CD snapshot, not an actual new release? [04:29] yes [04:29] yeah [04:29] ok [04:29] thanks [04:29] if you keep up with your upgrades you're fine. [04:29] So, Tribe 3 doesn't have any new features when compared to Tribe 2 that I haven't already seen in the course of normal upgrades? [04:30] I don't seem much of a difference from when I installed it. [04:30] the installer [04:30] you can test the installer [04:30] ah, ok :) [04:30] so I guess I won't see that unless I do a full install [04:38] nn === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thompa [n=thompa@c-68-53-85-246.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:58] WTF? I just had to restart Xorg four times! [04:58] are you using desktop effects [04:58] Xscreensaver got stuck on top of my desktop under Compiz, and when I did compiz --replace, compiz died and apparently took the panel with it. [04:59] Yeah. [04:59] And then I logged in, and no windows appeared -- yet I could hear the new-IM sound. [04:59] i have different effects for diff drivers [05:00] So I logged out again, and this time compiz started, but when I tried to remove it from my session, the x server locked up so that only alt-sysrq-k could kill it. [05:00] on macbook always two panes [05:00] Then I logged in again, and again the windows failed to appear. [05:00] on my nvidia box 4 panes [05:00] remove compiz if you need a quik fix or check bug stuff [05:01] i get no wireless with compiz enabled either [05:01] I find it quite annoying that xscreensaver gets "burned in" to the desktop. The close animation stalls, but when I rotate the cube I can see other windows beneath it. [05:01] still i like this better than osx lol [05:01] Then compiz --replace locks up the X server. [05:02] use apt-get remvove in failsafe [05:02] sorry remove [05:02] then go back in and reinstall it very simple [05:03] check apport then [05:03] there is a problem on i915 in xorg i think [05:04] but nvidia has a diff issue for me right now, [05:06] why did ubuntu go with apparmour? [05:08] before you log out disable dektop effects then === thompa [n=thompa@c-68-53-85-246.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thompa [n=thompa@c-68-53-85-246.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thompa [n=thompa@c-68-53-85-246.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thompa [n=thompa@c-68-53-85-246.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === DasKreech [n=ubuntu@72.252.29.23] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:29] anyone on Kubuntu Gutsy? === Zenton [n=vicente@212.166.192.135] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:40] anyone know mod_python? [05:40] how can i use a variable passed by GET? === _4str1 [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-48-208.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:42] i'm trying to do: http://fooserver/foo.py?arg=Bar [05:42] jmg: im not sure how to exactly, but i figure there are more elegant ways to do stuff like that [05:42] jmg: have you looked at django? [05:42] chowmeined: overkill [05:42] but even still [05:43] you can extract the url mapping part for your uses [05:43] it's for an embedded system [05:43] you can do it with mod_python too [05:43] just the docs are sketchy [05:43] and what i am doing from what i understand should wor [05:43] k === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.1.152] has joined #ubuntu+1 === levander [i=cponder@user-1121m8s.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:53] yay! made it work [05:53] *dance* [05:54] oh that was totally the wrong channel for this question, sorry [05:56] :-) === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.1.152] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === edgy [n=edgy@86.60.32.129] has joined #ubuntu+1 === edgy [n=edgy@86.60.32.129] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1C804.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CitizenKane [n=CitizenK@c-76-17-239-140.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:08] hi, is there anyone that could help me get wirless working with the 2.6.22 kernel? [06:10] CitizenKane: you are using gutsy, right? [06:10] Amaranth, i'm on feisty with 2.6.22 kernel === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:11] CitizenKane: oh [06:11] CitizenKane: You get to keep both pieces then [06:11] do you mean gutsy's 2.6.22-8.18 or a self-compiled kernel.org 2.6.22? [06:12] crimsun, self compiled kernel [06:12] then you need the respective firmware files in place. [06:13] crimsun, where are the firmware files normally located? [06:14] hopefully a website for the device [06:15] maybe just copy firmware from /lib/firmware/oldkernel to /lib/firmware/newkernel? [06:15] should work [06:16] Amaranth, cool, i'll give it a try [06:16] What WiFi card? [06:16] DanaG, ipw2200 [06:16] I know ipw3945 and iwl{3945,4965} are not in-kernel. [06:16] But 2200 is, so you're safe. === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-7-218.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === edgy [n=edgy@86.60.32.129] has joined #ubuntu+1 === r0bby_ [n=wakawaka@cpe-24-164-167-171.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sethbc [n=sethbc@cpe-66-108-162-181.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:29] !virtualization [06:29] There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:30] Oh, oops, stupid plugin. [06:31] !kvm [06:31] Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:31] !qemu [06:31] qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo === jsestri2 [n=jjsest@c-24-91-149-83.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:31] Anyone know why I would get the error: #ubuntu unable to join channel (address is banned)? [06:34] jsestri2, #ubuntu-ops === boredandblogging [n=nali@ubuntu/member/boredandblogging] has joined #ubuntu+1 === boredandblogging [n=nali@ubuntu/member/boredandblogging] has left #ubuntu+1 ["WeeChat] === Some_Person [i=Nah@adsl-66-142-128-191.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Some_Person [i=Nah@adsl-66-142-128-191.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === CitizenKane [n=CitizenK@c-76-17-239-140.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:46] Alright, I would ask this in the regular #ubuntu, but aparently I'm banned and nobody will un-ban me... [06:47] I just upgraded to feisty from dapper (upgrade-manager), my x doesn't work anymore. I remember having a similar problem way back when I got breezy...I have an nvidia card... [06:48] Errors were encountered while processing: [06:48] /var/cache/apt/archives/libkdepim1a_4%3a3.5.7-1ubuntu5_i386.deb [06:48] /var/cache/apt/archives/akregator_4%3a3.5.7-1ubuntu5_i386.deb [06:48] /var/cache/apt/archives/guidance-backends_0.8.0-1ubuntu9_i386.deb [06:48] /var/cache/apt/archives/kaddressbook_4%3a3.5.7-1ubuntu5_i386.deb [06:48] /var/cache/apt/archives/karm_4%3a3.5.7-1ubuntu5_i386.deb [06:48] /var/cache/apt/archives/kmail_4%3a3.5.7-1ubuntu5_i386.deb [06:48] /var/cache/apt/archives/knotes_4%3a3.5.7-1ubuntu5_i386.deb [06:48] stop. [06:48] /var/cache/apt/archives/korganizer_4%3a3.5.7-1ubuntu5_i386.deb [06:48] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [06:48] What do I do to resume my upgrade to gutsy? [06:48] Scroll back and see if you can find what failed first. === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF113C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:49] kmail: [06:49] Unpacking replacement kmail ... [06:49] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kmail_4%3a3.5.7-1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack): [06:49] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/config.kcfg/customtemplates_kfg.kcfg', which is also in package kpilot [06:49] dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) [06:50] karm: [06:50] Preparing to replace karm 4:3.5.7-0ubuntu1~feisty1 (using .../karm_4%3a3.5.7-1ubuntu5_i386.deb) ... [06:50] Unpacking replacement karm ... [06:50] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/karm_4%3a3.5.7-1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack): [06:50] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/services/kontact/karmplugin.desktop', which is also in package kontact [06:50] dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) [06:50] Amaranth, so i installed the firmware but the card won't associate at all [06:51] i dunno dude [06:51] like i said, you get to keep both pieces [06:51] I found the same error for karm as in kmail, knotes, and korganizer [06:51] yep, oh well, I just wanted to play around with the cool new dynticks features [06:51] that was the one that failed first. [06:52] DanaG: [06:52] You can use dpkg to remove kpilot. [06:53] so what should I do first? === edgy [n=edgy@86.60.32.129] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:55] anyone on Kubuntu Gutsy? === edgy [n=edgy@86.60.32.129] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] [06:55] working on it, stuck in an upgrade right now. [06:55] i'll let you know when it comes back. [06:56] hmm [06:56] looks like a few rounds of apt-get -f install is fixing it. [06:57] anyone know how to bring back the old-style sudo prompt? [06:58] i'll get this upgrade done then mess with that. === r0bby [n=wakawaka@guifications/user/r0bby] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-69-154-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.69.214.65] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RoC_MasterMind [n=Free@c-24-129-94-172.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jsestri2 [n=jjsest@c-24-91-149-83.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:22] gutsy has tickless kernel enabled by default right? [07:23] Is there a way to check which drivers the xserver can handle / exist? No matter what I configure the xserver for it always complains the driver couldn't be found. [07:25] voidmage: Yes, as long as you're not running the amd64 version. === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.10.46] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:26] well, one dist upgrade, 3 runs of apt-get -f install [07:26] another dist upgrade [07:26] still not done [07:26] ;P === Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:31] two dist-upgrades, 3 apt-get -f installs, and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [07:31] :P [07:31] maybe. === DarkX [n=DarkX@ip72-192-145-48.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.10.46] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jsestri2 [n=jjsest@c-24-91-149-83.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mo0osah [n=mo0osah@cpe-70-116-21-77.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:02] Is there a new login splash to match the new login screen? [08:05] (kde) [08:06] dont think so === Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:10] voidmage: gnome-look.org? === Frost^ [n=sweiss@CBL217-132-93-166.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === geser [i=mb@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Trewas [n=ilonen@raato.lut.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@CBL217-132-93-166.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === geser [i=mb@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Trewas [n=ilonen@raato.lut.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Sebastian [n=sb@p5088FC37.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5FF14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dev1 [n=vitslipu@220-169-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-a1796389214e95db] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@CBL217-132-93-166.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === geser [i=mb@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Trewas [n=ilonen@raato.lut.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DarkX [n=DarkX@ip72-192-145-48.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DarkX [n=DarkX@ip72-192-145-48.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ke- [n=kenneth@port272.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === stone-unix [n=chatzill@218.90.181.84] has joined #ubuntu+1 === [miles] [n=miles@bcn1.entorno.es] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@ubuntu/member/admiral-chicago] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:00] hi, i'm getting an error with compiz, when i enable it, my windows borders disappear [09:01] the error I get is this one: Fatal: No manageable screens found on display [09:01] Admiral_Chicago: hi Freddy [09:04] hey there Tm_T, its been a while since i saw you in #kubuntu [09:04] I'm bit busy these days [09:05] same here === stone-unix [n=chatzill@218.90.181.84] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [09:06] could it be related to this line: exec: 252: /usr/bin/metacity: not found [09:06] thats the last thing of ourput I got, I am running KDE [09:08] Admiral_Chicago: did you install compiz-kde? [09:09] yes i did [09:09] Admiral_Chicago: do you want emerald or whatever the kde window manager is? [09:09] i'd like aquamarine but emerald is fine [09:11] If I try anything with compiz, Kwin goes away, the boarders disappear and I'm stuck without a window manager === towlieba [n=krustycl@pool-71-104-99-22.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:11] Admiral_Chicago: open a terminal and type: kwin& === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:12] or aquamarine --replace& [09:12] ah thats a good idea, run it in the background... === LinuxProbie [n=brasskid@S01060016e34ca1e0.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:15] having problems with my broadcom wireless card, can someone lend assistance? [09:15] there is no aquamarine package in the repos === Matrik [n=matrik@lacoloc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:16] LinuxProbie, whats the problem ? [09:17] towlieba, after a reboot it was as if it wasn't there anymore. === MilhousePunkRock [n=MPR@dslc-082-082-084-067.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Xemanth [n=xemanth@hostf173.hamk.fi] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [09:18] towlieba, I don't even have the green wireless light anymore. [09:18] hmm [09:18] before you rebooted did you do a software update with synaptic package manager ? [09:18] nope [09:18] what did you do ? [09:18] So who is responsible for maintaining the iso download server? [09:18] nothing. only thing I did was change the network it was trying to connect to. [09:19] you're using madwifi right ? [09:19] using wha? [09:20] are you using madwifi for your broadcom wireless card ? [09:20] it provides driver support for a lot of different wireless b/g cards [09:21] towlieba, never heard of it [09:21] are u sure u werent connected using a wired network [09:22] towlieba: madwifi is not for broadcom cards, as far as I know... [09:22] yea it is [09:22] i have a broadcom wireless card and need madwifi loaded for it to be recognized by linux [09:23] in the past i had a pcmcia wifi card that used the broadcom chipset and worked great with madwifi [09:23] towlieba, I think I got it working, gimmie a sec. [09:24] ok === LinuxProbie [n=brasskid@S01060016e34ca1e0.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:30] towlieba, well, whatever xtknight told me to do, worked like a charm.. o.o' [09:32] what did he tell you to do ? [09:32] "sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper" twice to remove possibility of duplicate drivers and then "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" [09:32] sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper twice, then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper [09:32] ndiswrapper wasnt in his /etc/modules so it's entirely possible it was never loaded anyway [09:33] oh [09:33] :p [09:33] i shoulda known you were using ndiswrapper [09:33] so I'm confused...should ndiswrapper be in modules or not? [09:33] LinuxProbie, if you start to get kernel crashes like i always have when using ndiswrapper, try madwifi i know it works for broadcom chipsets and is a lot more stable than ndiswrapper [09:33] yes if you want it to start automatically and not manually load it [09:34] What is madwifi? I see no "madwifi" module. [09:34] I call that confusing naming. === mo0osah [n=mo0osah@cpe-70-116-21-77.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:34] you have to compile it [09:34] but its easy [09:34] download madwifi ,extract,cd madwifi, make ,sudo make install,modprobe ath_pci [09:34] thats it [09:34] aah, ath_pci. [09:34] not madwifi. Who came up with that one? [09:34] but it doesnt come with ubuntu [09:35] You see what I mean about the naming? [09:35] you need to get the latest build for some of the newer wifi cards [09:35] I already have ipw3945 built-in, so there's not a great point to it for me. [09:35] Though I do also have a bcm43xx wireless cardbus card around here, too. [09:37] Aagh, droppings on my screen! [09:38] The little 000F boxes. [09:38] i wish madwifi was completely open source :( === Mo0oSaH [n=mo0osah@cpe-70-116-21-77.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === LinuxProbie [n=brasskid@S01060016e34ca1e0.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:45] Ok everything's fine. [09:46] towlieba, Hey, do you know how to change the default keyring password? === gutsytrials [n=ubuntu@ip68-111-203-36.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === KMoth [n=mothfisc@CPE-121-210-36-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:49] Howdy party people. [09:49] Do you love me too? [09:49] I like you a lot, gut. [09:49] I just installed tribe 3, and I'm excited about it, but I'm getting Grub Loading... Please Wait then Error 22 [09:50] Anyone wanna walk me through fixing grub? I'm on the Feisty live CD now, so I can get online. [09:51] The gutsy CD only booted every other 5th time, and I imagine I'll be rebooting at least once during this process. :D === CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === corevette [n=corevett@adsl-75-35-76-191.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:09] what is ubufox [10:12] !ubufox ! corevette [10:12] !ubufox | corevette [10:12] Sorry, I don't know anything about ubufox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === edgy [n=edgy@86.60.58.184] has joined #ubuntu+1 === edgy [n=edgy@86.60.58.184] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] === timfrost [n=timfrost@125-238-36-119.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chand| [n=rsamson@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === void^ [n=void@84.16.237.64] has joined #ubuntu+1 === prometoys [n=prometoy@dslb-084-060-026-004.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@224.175-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:54] is oit possible at boot to get 1400x900 reso ? === stefg [n=stefg@e179146183.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === JosefK [i=Brett@82-42-147-9.cable.ubr01.sprt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zdra [n=zdra@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [n=leif@user-64-9-238-44.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Michael_T_King [n=LOL_AT_L@c-98-195-174-62.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:30] Anyone having probs w/pidgin? === martoya [n=paranoia@164.77.219.194] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:32] Do we talk about .dev types of things here? [11:32] .j #kinuxmint === Zdra [n=zdra@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:33] Michael_T_King: its a bit dead here at this time of morning... [11:34] and yes, we talk as deep .dev as we feel like :P [11:34] I love Ubuntu, but it broke my heart when Mint came out [11:35] :) === Zdra [n=zdra@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lukketto [n=lukketto@host3-193-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:42] hi guys [11:42] whats up === jjchico [n=jjchico@valhalla.dte.us.es] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jjchico [n=jjchico@valhalla.dte.us.es] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [11:44] Michael_T_King, just downloading the alternate cd, after the desktop failed spectacularly ^^ no info I could send to launchpad though, box had completely hung :( *sighs* [11:44] ok JosefK are you @ a comand prompt [11:44] ? [11:44] You have Cable or DSP inet [11:44] Michael_T_King, hah, I wish, could've done something with the box then [11:45] Cable === leif_ [n=leif@user-64-9-238-44.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:45] JosefK, are you comfortable with the console command line [11:45] Michael_T_King, I can ssh into a *nix box if you want to do some testing? [11:45] Michael_T_King, see above ^^ === leif_ [n=leif@user-64-9-238-44.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:45] JosefK, you mean me into yiours? [11:46] Michael_T_King, um... hell no - just wondering why you were asking? [11:46] That'd be fine... i'd even turn prefetch on [11:46] Necause i've done it for others. [11:46] Ah, fair enough, thanks for the offer, but it looks like the alt cd just downloaded, back in a bit after I install it [11:48] JosefK, IF i think i wanted your router bad enough i could take it. [11:48] :) [11:49] Michael_T_King, were you talking about the cable router, or a unix box, out of interest? [11:50] I [11:50] I' [11:50] lol [11:50] i'll pwn them both. [11:51] hehe, no no, I thought you had some magic tweaks for my aged cable modem for a sec, ISP won't send me a new one :/ === JosefK sighs [11:51] biab [11:52] lol [11:52] what a goon. [11:52] lets see. === leif_ [n=leif@user-64-9-238-44.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [n=leif@user-64-9-238-44.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Sebastian [n=sb@p5088F3A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [n=leif@user-64-9-238-44.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [n=leif@user-64-9-238-44.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Kain [n=i@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:04] Does gutsy use tracker or does it still use beagle? === Adlai [n=leif@user-64-9-238-44.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [n=leif@user-64-9-238-44.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Xemanth [n=xemanth@hostf173.hamk.fi] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@224.175-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dystopianray [n=dystopia@123.108.80.225] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Xemanth [n=xemanth@hostf173.hamk.fi] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === kervel [n=kervel@d5152D246.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === riri [n=riri@roo49-2-88-161-139-50.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:22] hello, since this night (gutsy) dhclient doesn't work anymore. it complains about "permission denied". i think it drops too much privileges (when i remove the "dhcp" user and group, where dhclient does a setuid to, everything starts to work) .. i originally posted this on #ubuntu but there i was told this is the right place ... [12:23] Hi === Sebastian [n=sb@p5088F3A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:31] kervel, have you reported it on launchpad? === dendrobates [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zapek [i=zapek@nat/fluendo/x-dcded82b30806260] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:42] if I lock the screen under compiz, I cannot enter my password into the string anymore. now the question is if it's a compiz bug or a gnome-screensaver bug? [12:43] elkbuntu i found many reports with similar errors. most of them were because of faulty drivers, i didn't find any one yet with problems with privileges [12:43]