=== johnc4510 [n=johnc@ubuntu/member/johnc4510] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Bassetts [n=Bassetts@unaffiliated/bassetts] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === johnc4510 [n=johnc@ubuntu/member/johnc4510] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Lipe_ [n=Lipe_@OL13-215.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === nairoV [n=Steve@cpe-76-181-146-41.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:48] beuno: greetings :) [02:48] hey johnc4510! [02:49] how's it going === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:50] good good, back home after a month and a half of travelling [02:50] so pretty happy :D [02:50] beuno: after that long i would be toooooo! [02:51] your own bed is a wonderful thing [02:51] absolutely, best night ever yesterday! [02:51] hee hee [02:51] :) [02:52] johnc4510: how are you getting along with UWN? I see you're putting a lot of great work into it [02:53] beuno: thanks, hope i'm not over reaching but no problems [02:53] johnc4510: awesome work on the UWN [02:53] boredandblogging: ty and howdy [02:53] johnc4510: that's the good thing about wikis, you can never over reach :D [02:53] :) [02:54] beuno: ok great i'll just keep on truckin then [02:54] gf here [02:54] ba bye :D [02:54] see ya [02:55] boredandblogging: was it you talking with the guy yesterday about the country problem? whether is was or not [02:55] johnc4510: about catalan? yeah [02:56] can you tell me how this all works are some uwm translated and some completely separate papers [02:57] the ones that are translated put their links directly on the UWN, but I believe there is an European or South American LoCo does there own thing, but don't quote me on that [02:58] ok, i just wondered because what he was talking about wasn't in our edition it confused me a little [02:58] :) [02:58] that happens with me some though [02:58] hee hee [02:59] the reference to the catalan countries? yes it was [02:59] ok, thanks for the info :) === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === johnc4510 [n=johnc@ip68-231-136-42.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === boredandblogging [n=nali@ubuntu/member/boredandblogging] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === johnc4510 [n=johnc@ip68-231-136-42.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-69-154-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Bassetts [n=Bassetts@unaffiliated/bassetts] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Bassetts [n=Bassetts@unaffiliated/bassetts] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Susana_ [n=Susana@bl6-7-12.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === katkin [i=katkin@nat/canonical/x-a288d03d4e189f8f] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === |cerbero| [n=jga@pD9E63EC8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jono_ [n=jono@88-107-112-162.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Bassetts [n=Bassetts@unaffiliated/bassetts] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-marketing.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Topic for #ubuntu-marketing: Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's IRC channel | We're here to fix Bug #1 | Keep in mind that whatever your LoCo does, any other LoCo can benefit from your work or experience! | Please sign up to the mailing list, ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com | Beuno is doing UWN | UWN #47 is out! UWN #48 is in progress to be released Sunday July 15th === Topic (#ubuntu-marketing): set by beuno at Mon Jul 9 03:03:24 2007 === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === nairoV [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@unaffiliated/mindspin] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mrmonday [n=mrmonday@unaffiliated/mrmonday] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === nairoV [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Bassetts [n=Bassetts@unaffiliated/bassetts] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === DarkRaven_ [n=dvwyngaa@dsl-244-209-151.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-68-72-110-119.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === johnc4510 [n=johnc@ip68-231-136-42.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:06] howdy [06:08] hello johnc4510 [06:08] rocking work on the UWN btw [06:12] Burgundavia: thanks === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === boredand1logging [n=nali@c-24-98-177-125.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === meatballhat [n=danbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === RoAkSoAx [n=wo@200.37.122.111] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === flickerfly [n=josiah@216-15-65-195.c3-0.tlg-ubr3.atw-tlg.pa.static.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:03] A LUG guy said you guys might be interested in the weakness of Linux solutions in the NGO "market". Non-profits just don't get much attention, particularly small ones who could benefit hugely from the provision of good software tools. The greatest weakness is constituent relationship management (CRM), but just a decent fund-accounting software would be a good start. You can't even buy stuff for this [08:05] flickerfly: there is actually the NGO in a box, done by the tactical tech people in Amsterdam [08:06] it is based on Ubuntu, afaicr [08:06] do you have a link to that, it doesn't sound familiar [08:07] http://tacticaltech.org/ [08:07] I am, in fact, wearing on their tshirts right now [08:07] or, I guess http://ngoinabox.org/ [08:08] thanks, I'll have to check that out [08:08] the tactical tech people are cool people, actually [08:20] What they are recommending for NGOs to use for finances is GnuCash. While GnuCash is a fine personal accounting software, it doesn't have the features to address fund accounting like an NGO wants to do [08:20] I do like what they're trying to do. [08:21] I'll have to see if I can find a feed on them to get more familiar with their tech [08:22] I should re-visit CiviCRM. [08:22] That might be improved in the last few years and may fit. [08:25] it is likely that money can be found to improve software for NGO use [08:40] cool, then all that needs to happen is find someone with the time. That's another thing lacking at NGOs. :-) Thanks for listening guys. I'm off. === flickerfly [n=josiah@216-15-65-195.c3-0.tlg-ubr3.atw-tlg.pa.static.cable.rcn.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === Admiral_Chicago_ [n=FreddyM@adsl-68-72-109-103.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === IDF_Mike [n=mike@wsip-70-183-234-86.pn.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:16] me and some guys in the FL team were looking into making an ubuntu page and I just wanted to run it by you guys and see what you think [10:18] It's main purpose would basically an exhaustive list of links for useful ubuntu related sites [10:18] with a rating system and a place for users to submit links [10:20] I don't wanna keep rattling on here, but I just wanted to make sure something like this wasn't in the works and see if anyone thought it would be beneficial [10:21] we feel like sites are starting to spread out and that it's getting harder to find what you are looking for and a good index would help [10:22] any comments or suggestions, send them this way thanks, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3051979#post3051979 === IDF_Mike is now known as loserboy === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-68-72-109-103.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:32] loserboy: a list of links? [11:32] well... yea but a massive list [11:33] massive lists have a serious problem; they are massive [11:33] every study of humans and picking shows that beyond 7 items, we loose the ability to quickly parse [11:34] lol well we are going put stress on having it well organized and indexed [11:34] but I know what you mean [11:34] I personally think it would be a better project to clean up a few good resources [11:34] also rating systems, brief comments [11:35] such as finishing and publishing the DIY stie [11:35] or fixing some pages on teh Ubuntu Help wiki [11:35] that's what I thought at first too, but it seems like such a huge project, and not everyone is going to cooperate [11:35] you don';t need a lot of cooperation [11:36] you need bit sized chunks [11:36] alot of the wiki hasn't been updated since hoary [11:36] {{sofixit}} [11:36] and actually, lots has [11:36] well, I spent a long time on the hardware compatibility [11:36] the challenge is building a community around a resource, not producing another resource [11:37] http://loll.sourceforge.net/ [11:37] that is a project similar to what you are envisioing [11:37] it doesn't work. I know because a couple of people from my LUG run it [11:38] I'll take a look in just a sec here [11:39] it is similar to what we have in mind, is it still updated? [11:40] nope [11:40] it died because it really isn't a useful resource [11:40] not in the Google area [11:41] what drivers users to sites is content, lots of good content [11:41] one place that need more cool content is the Fridge [11:41] and the UWN [11:42] one idea might be a "cool Ubuntu device of the day" post, about somebody running Ubuntu on something cool === BHSPitMonkey_ [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-113-213.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:42] yea I see what you're saying [11:43] there are no end of existing projects that badly need people to write cool things for them [11:44] I just see so many people in the forums that can't find what they are looking for through search functions in the forum or from google [11:44] and I admit many times it's their fault [11:44] then choose a resouce and improve that [11:45] if you have good content, it will float its way up the list in google [11:46] well, I'm glad I talked to you and I'll run everything you said by the guys [11:46] I gotta say I still think we could make it work [11:48] working on the wiki was actually my first thought before this idea, it's depressing just to think about it [11:48] (working on the wiki that is) [11:48] the wiki is a large resource with lots of disorder [11:49] do you know of anyone that has a game plan for reorganizing it [11:49] not really [11:52] so you really feel like it's a waste to have a links site? [11:53] a few carefully selected links, maybe as part of a story on a existing resource [11:53] link maybe a story on the Fridge, with a few links abougt a specific story [11:54] then you get a few high quality links [11:54] sort of a news style [11:54] or highlights [11:54] basically, yes [11:55] when something like Ubuntu Mobile is announced, a short news roundup [11:56] is that any real use to anyone, I've seen sites that cover this already [11:56] yes, it is [11:59] are you part of the marketing team, i'm only asking so I can say where I got the feedback from [11:59] yes [11:59] teh marketing team is anybody who wants to market [11:59] lol oh ok, is there no official status? [12:00] there is, but people tend to see the "Marketing Team" as this entity