[08:34] <Mithrandir> bspencer: is it intentionally you don't have hildon-theme-mobile-basic in revision control?
[08:35] <bspencer> no
[08:35] <Mithrandir> hm, sorry
[08:35] <bspencer> just inadvertent mistake
[08:35] <Mithrandir> it's there, I'm just bad at copying URLs
[08:45] <Mithrandir> bspencer: but the thing in the git repo is generated using the hildon theme tools, isn't it?
[08:48] <bspencer> Mithrandir, unfortunately no
[08:49] <Mithrandir> ok
[08:49] <bspencer> becuase the hildon theme tools require a giant png file
[08:49] <bspencer> it is a copy of plankton, with modificyations
[08:49] <Mithrandir> ok
[08:49] <Mithrandir> you seem to want to licence it under the GPL, but bits of it is CC-BY-SA?
[08:50] <Mithrandir> # Copyright Nokia Corporation 2007
[08:50] <Mithrandir> # Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 license
[08:50] <Mithrandir> the bits in gtk-2.0/
[08:50] <bspencer> hm
[08:50] <bspencer> we don't want to change any license
[08:50] <bspencer> sharealike for all the pictures, I thought
[08:51] <bspencer> so it is mis-licensed
[08:51] <bspencer> I looked at plankton.  The only license I see is in gtkrc
[08:52] <bspencer> which is as you said.
[08:52] <Mithrandir> ok, so I'll just replace it with a copy of the CC licence then
[08:52] <bspencer> please... bad practice on our side
[08:52] <Mithrandir> no worry
[08:53] <Mithrandir> I got access to moblin.org last night; is it ok with you guys if I just push those changes back in, or should they go through some kind of review process?
[08:53] <bspencer> I was just going to do that, but if you have access, please do it
[08:53] <Mithrandir> I have some other fixes too, so I'll do those, then upload.  
[08:54] <bspencer> appreciated.
[09:02] <Mithrandir> bspencer: actually, if you could pull from git://git.err.no/hildon-theme-mobile-basic, that would be helpful.
[09:03] <bspencer> k
[09:03] <Mithrandir> bspencer: I have access to moblin.org, but I'm not in the right group there, so it doesn't help
[09:03] <Mithrandir> :-)
[09:03] <bspencer> ok
[09:03] <bspencer> I'll push your changes
[09:03] <Mithrandir> I've asked HappyCamp to fix it, but I suspect he's asleep now.
[09:03] <bspencer> HappyCamp, wake up you fool
[09:03] <bspencer> perhaps.
[09:05] <bspencer> Mithrandir, give me a tip... git clone rsync://git.err.no/hildon-theme-mobile-basic
[09:06] <bspencer> should work?
[09:06] <Mithrandir> just doing git pull git://git.err.no/hildon-theme-mobile-basic should work
[09:06] <Mithrandir> (when you're in a hildon-theme-mobile-basic tree already)
[09:06] <Mithrandir> not rsync, git://
[09:10] <Mithrandir> anyway, hildon-theme-mobile-basic uploaded.
[11:04] <Mithrandir> also, I think I'll rename it.
[11:53] <ian_brasil> hi
[11:54] <ian_brasil> i am writing something about moblin and i got this error:
[11:54] <ian_brasil> root@N800-hacker:/# image-creator
[11:54] <ian_brasil> (image-creator:17289): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[11:54] <ian_brasil>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[11:54] <ian_brasil> /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:69: GtkWarning: could not open display
[11:54] <ian_brasil>   warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning)
[11:54] <ian_brasil> Traceback (most recent call last):
[11:54] <ian_brasil>   File "/usr/sbin/image-creator", line 33, in <module>
[11:54] <ian_brasil>     import gui
[11:54] <ian_brasil>   File "/usr/share/pdk/lib/gui.py", line 38, in <module>
[11:54] <ian_brasil>     locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, '')
[11:54] <ian_brasil>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/locale.py", line 478, in setlocale
[11:54] <ian_brasil>     return _setlocale(category, locale)
[11:54] <ian_brasil> locale.Error: unsupported locale setting
[11:54] <ian_brasil> this is inside chroot and i installed moblin using apt-get
[11:55] <ian_brasil> any ideas?
[12:01] <Mithrandir> unset LANG
[12:02] <ian_brasil> Mithrandir: how do i do this?
[12:03] <Mithrandir> just do "unset LANG" in the shell you're launching image-creator from
[12:15] <ian_brasil> i must be doing something wrong as now i get a seg fault
[12:17] <rusty> ian_brasil, is your dbus running?  that will trigger a segfault
[12:17] <rusty> if dbus is not running, that is
[12:26] <ian_brasil> i restarted dbus so it's not that...i just run image-creator directly from within the chroot...no need to open a separate xephyr?? ..i ask this as the error message is about pango/gtk windows
[12:30] <ian_brasil> along with this: ***MEMORY-WARNING***: image-creator[18713] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon...
[05:10] <asac> Mithrandir: midbrowser is in NEW ... I pinged pitti ... currently pushing branch
[05:10] <asac> https://code.launchpad.net/midbrowser/
[05:36] <ian_brasil> I manually built moblin and it works great...the UI looks great with the ajax style effects for application starting !!
[05:59] <agoliveira> asac: Hi. Is this the one just released by Maemo?
[05:59] <agoliveira> asac: Ooops... I guess not.
[06:04] <asac> agoliveira: he?
[06:04] <asac> agoliveira: its just midbrowser :)
[06:05] <agoliveira> asac: Yes, I misread it. Don't worry :)
[07:45] <keen101> anyone know if the nokia tablets will be able to run it?
[08:08] <agoliveira> keen101: As we are based on Maemo/Hildon, why not run the original code? :)
[08:36] <monitor> Hello guiz, anywone from Brazil ?
[08:38] <agoliveira> JonathanCardozo: Yep, the same one who answered your email ;)
[08:38] <JonathanCardozo> E ai Cara, blz?
[08:39] <JonathanCardozo> tem que falar em ingles ?
[08:39] <agoliveira> JonathanCardozo: Tudo mas vamos manter em ingls que  a lngua usada no canal.
[08:39] <JonathanCardozo> ok
[08:40] <JonathanCardozo> i'm reading the links, wiki, but i haver some douts, you can explain ?
[08:41] <JonathanCardozo> over testing, how you test the software, on pc, and on device to?
[08:43] <agoliveira> This page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/CreatingAnImageForUMEDevice have the answers. It's not completed yet but has enough for you to understand already but, in short, you can run the environment on Xephyr in your own machine so there's no need for a device.
[08:44] <JonathanCardozo> oh good
[08:45] <JonathanCardozo> but the project current verion run i devices ? or not yet
[08:45] <JonathanCardozo> * man i have to study english a lot
[08:45] <JonathanCardozo> ehe
[08:46] <agoliveira> JonathanCardozo: The only tested device so far is the one indicated on the page, the Samsung Q1 Ultra but there's no reason for not run in others (x86 only currently) with the right kernel.
[08:49] <JonathanCardozo> Men i dream someday use my linux device to talk over voip, read my e-mails, IM, man i can't way anymore, this is the reasen to work with you
[08:52] <agoliveira> JonathanCardozo: Well, you can do that already with Nokia's 770 and 800. What we are doing is to bring this kind of experience and more to more beefed up machines that would alow us to have a more media-oriented experience.
[08:54] <JonathanCardozo> xcuse, didnt understand the "NEED WEEKEND"
[08:54] <agoliveira> JonathanCardozo: Just a joke. I meant that I need a *real* weekend
[08:55] <JonathanCardozo> oh ye, but the nokias isnt totally open source, or yes?
[08:56] <agoliveira> JonathanCardozo: No, they are not.
[08:56] <JonathanCardozo> man hou i send a message to you, i dont know how to use this ehhe
[08:57] <JonathanCardozo> i think that with ubuntu mobile, we wil have more liberty or not? kernel, hacks no more, a lot of cool prorgamms
[08:57] <agoliveira> JonathanCardozo: You can send private messages but unless you really have to I prefer you don't because they are very distracting and the idea is to share information.
[08:58] <agoliveira> JonathanCardozo: Yes, that's the idea.
[08:58] <JonathanCardozo> yes i think to, i talking to put your name in begin of messages like you put mine, its digitando mesmo?
[08:59] <agoliveira> yes
[09:00] <JonathanCardozo> ok
[09:01] <JonathanCardozo> agoliveira: what you are doing in the project?
[09:02] <agoliveira> JonathanCardozo: I'm doing a lot of different things like packaging, documentation, choosing and testing applications, etc
[09:25] <JonathanCardozo> agoliveira: Man the UME will user the gnome mobile or MAEMO? maemo is a window manager correct?
[09:27] <agoliveira> No, the window manager is matchbox
[09:27] <JonathanCardozo> ah
[09:28] <JonathanCardozo> agoliveira: Gutsy Gibbon is the name of distrubution ?
[09:32] <agoliveira> Gutsy Gibbon is the name of the next version of Ubuntu (7.10)
[10:26] <agoliveira> rusty: Hi. You there?
[11:13] <bspencer> question about icons and licenses for anyone
[11:13] <bspencer> in a default Feisty distribution, in /usr/share/icons
[11:13] <bspencer> are these usable by anyone for "Common Share" license?
[11:13] <bspencer> where is the license information for these?
[11:14] <bspencer> e.g. gnome, Crux, Human, Tango. ... 
[11:14] <bspencer> can I take these, modify them, and use them for my own GPL apps ?
[11:28] <Jonathan_Cardozo> guyz how i run the UME on my pc? anyone have the tutorial ?
[11:37] <Jonathan_Cardozo> can you help me?
[11:41] <ian_brasil> hi
[11:42] <ian_brasil> have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UMEGuide
[11:58] <Jonathan_Cardozo> ian_brasil tanks i'm learning