| Elpram | well im just going into my second year in computer science | 12:30 |
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| Elpram | so i dont have any projects that ive worked on besides programming assignments | 12:30 |
| Elpram | but im familiar with python, java, C, and bash, and can pick up any other language as needed | 12:31 |
| asac | cool | 12:31 |
| asac | so you are interested in real-development vs. packaging? | 12:31 |
| Elpram | im going to go with real-development because im not entirely sure what you mean by packaging | 12:32 |
| asac | :) | 12:32 |
| asac | packaging needs development too ... but its nothiner that is usually visible in the application itself | 12:32 |
| Elpram | ah, i see | 12:32 |
| asac | ok | 12:32 |
| Elpram | and what would that consist of | 12:32 |
| asac | we have multiple things going on that are important and need coding :) | 12:33 |
| Elpram | id just like to be put where i can be of use | 12:33 |
| Elpram | ah, this is good news | 12:33 |
| Elpram | any language of preference? | 12:33 |
| asac | we have a python thing: | 12:33 |
| Elpram | i just downloaded SPE if that is of any use | 12:34 |
| asac | its about firefox-distro-addons ... which will allow us to integrate debian packages into the mozilla plugin wizard | 12:34 |
| asac | for that we have to create a database that contains plugin package information | 12:34 |
| asac | its basically a small program on its own ... and should be fairly simple | 12:35 |
| asac | i already have some code ... | 12:35 |
| Elpram | so basically something like synaptic, but for mozilla plugins? | 12:35 |
| asac | hmmm ... do you know the mozilla plugin wizard? | 12:36 |
| Elpram | fraid not | 12:36 |
| asac | firefox plugin wizard | 12:36 |
| asac | if you miss a plugin for some content you get an area with a puzzle piece in the webpage ... you saw that? | 12:36 |
| Elpram | oh | 12:37 |
| Elpram | righto | 12:37 |
| Elpram | yeah, ive noticed it tends to not find anything :P | 12:37 |
| asac | yes ... if you click on it ... firefox opens a plugin wizard ... one component invokes a webservice | 12:37 |
| Elpram | right | 12:37 |
| asac | that brings info of what extensions can be installed from where | 12:37 |
| asac | to serve that content | 12:37 |
| Elpram | alright | 12:37 |
| asac | now ... it doesn't work with packages | 12:37 |
| Elpram | ah | 12:37 |
| asac | e.g. people will install plugins from upstream sites | 12:38 |
| Elpram | so it just works with like a file somewhere | 12:38 |
| Elpram | or it just directs to an url | 12:38 |
| asac | basically ... its a database on the webserver site | 12:38 |
| asac | and firefox submits info like version, architecture, et al | 12:38 |
| asac | the webservice returns xml with info | 12:38 |
| Elpram | k | 12:38 |
| asac | i have someone who wants to work on that webservice ... but in order to start with it, we need a database | 12:39 |
| asac | that contains the info | 12:39 |
| asac | now ... we already uploaded packages that have that kind of meta information in their package description | 12:39 |
| Elpram | k | 12:39 |
| asac | the task is to build a program that iterates through all packages and extracts that information ... | 12:39 |
| Elpram | and sends it to the database | 12:39 |
| asac | then it would either inject that data to the datbase directly, or sends out sql commands to console | 12:40 |
| Elpram | k | 12:40 |
| asac | right ... the latter would allow you to use command line tools to fill database | 12:40 |
| Elpram | sounds doable | 12:40 |
| asac | yeah wait | 12:40 |
| Elpram | k | 12:40 |
| asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/npp_cache_dump.py | 12:40 |
| asac | that is almost ready ;) | 12:40 |
| asac | but it needs some care | 12:40 |
| asac | ok .. i have taken care that the python api for apt/dpkg has been improved for our purpose | 12:41 |
| Elpram | alright | 12:41 |
| asac | you see the file | 12:41 |
| asac | ? | 12:41 |
| Elpram | got it d/led | 12:41 |
| asac | do you know how debian package information looks like? | 12:42 |
| Elpram | havent the faintest clue | 12:42 |
| asac | ok its simple | 12:42 |
| asac | wait | 12:42 |
| Elpram | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-debpkg.html | 12:43 |
| Elpram | would that be a good way to learn? | 12:44 |
| asac | http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~asac/firefox/ubuntu-2.0.0.x/annotate/asac%40jwsdot.com-20070719095124-di7t53q98djslrg4?file_id=control-20070321172126-hx4btlytc64jyo4n-4 | 12:45 |
| asac | look at that | 12:45 |
| asac | just the first 20 lines | 12:45 |
| asac | its the package description ... contains name of source ... and binary files .. description and dependenceies | 12:45 |
| asac | et al | 12:45 |
| asac | ok | 12:45 |
| asac | always just a Tagname: some-content-like-name-or-description | 12:45 |
| asac | its not really important | 12:46 |
| Elpram | right | 12:46 |
| asac | but now we do add Extended headers to add meta info about plugins, like what content/mime-type they serve: | 12:46 |
| asac | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8309042/sun-java5.debdiff | 12:46 |
| asac | thats the update for sun that hjmf prepared | 12:46 |
| Elpram | k | 12:47 |
| asac | ok ... if you look back at code you see that its basically a simple for loop | 12:47 |
| asac | for pkg in cache: ... | 12:47 |
| asac | it iterates through all packages | 12:47 |
| Elpram | right | 12:47 |
| Elpram | we want the meta data for every single package? | 12:48 |
| asac | then you see how it extracts the content of those headers | 12:48 |
| asac | yes ... | 12:48 |
| asac | most packages don't have any | 12:48 |
| asac | only plugins | 12:48 |
| Elpram | ah | 12:48 |
| Elpram | k | 12:48 |
| asac | but you have to iterate through all | 12:48 |
| asac | to find | 12:48 |
| Elpram | right | 12:48 |
| asac | ok ... that info needs to go to a datbase | 12:48 |
| asac | that is what dump_combination on top does | 12:49 |
| asac | and you see that i dump a db entry for each mime_type + app_id combination | 12:49 |
| Elpram | yup | 12:49 |
| asac | because each plugin can serve N mime-types and app-ids | 12:49 |
| asac | ok | 12:49 |
| Elpram | so | 12:50 |
| asac | ok ... its almost done ... however | 12:50 |
| Elpram | whats left to code in this script | 12:50 |
| asac | there is a tricky thing missing | 12:50 |
| asac | ;) | 12:50 |
| Elpram | hehe | 12:50 |
| Elpram | oh course | 12:50 |
| Elpram | of* | 12:50 |
| asac | all starts with cache = Cache() | 12:50 |
| asac | you see that? | 12:50 |
| Elpram | right | 12:50 |
| asac | yes ... thats bad because it uses the apt info that is in your computer apt cache | 12:51 |
| Elpram | which can be out of date | 12:51 |
| asac | which means: you only see packages for the architecture you are on | 12:51 |
| asac | ... yes and to update it you need root access | 12:51 |
| Elpram | that too | 12:51 |
| Elpram | suck | 12:51 |
| asac | yeah ... but you can provide a path to Cache | 12:51 |
| asac | look in the API | 12:51 |
| asac | its /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/apt | 12:52 |
| asac | the constructor impl of Cache: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/157137 | 12:53 |
| asac | you see you can pass a rootdir | 12:53 |
| asac | a few lines below you see that it looks for /var/lib/dpkg/status | 12:54 |
| asac | beneath that rootdir | 12:54 |
| asac | ok ... work needed is: | 12:54 |
| asac | download Packages files for all architectures | 12:55 |
| asac | put them somewhere beneath /var ... look in the cache.py code to see where | 12:55 |
| asac | and run the current script on them :) | 12:55 |
| Elpram | uh | 12:56 |
| Elpram | question | 12:56 |
| asac | yeah | 12:56 |
| asac | go ahead | 12:56 |
| Elpram | how much space will that take up? | 12:56 |
| asac | was too fast i guess ;) | 12:56 |
| asac | doesn't matter | 12:56 |
| Elpram | well no, i only have 2gb free here ;P | 12:56 |
| asac | for now we don't have that many plugin packages | 12:56 |
| asac | yeah that is much moire than you need | 12:56 |
| Elpram | ah | 12:56 |
| Elpram | oh right | 12:56 |
| Elpram | its just the package files | 12:56 |
| Elpram | not the files themselves | 12:56 |
| Elpram | sorry | 12:56 |
| asac | you need maybe 10 Packages files that are each max. 6mb | 12:56 |
| Elpram | blonde moment | 12:56 |
| asac | the datbase is small | 12:56 |
| asac | yes | 12:57 |
| asac | just the Packages file | 12:57 |
| Elpram | okay | 12:57 |
| Elpram | so | 12:57 |
| Elpram | i understand what needs to be done | 12:57 |
| Elpram | can i do it | 12:57 |
| Elpram | right now | 12:57 |
| Elpram | no | 12:57 |
| Elpram | but i will teach myself | 12:57 |
| Elpram | so dont expect it tomorrow | 12:57 |
| Elpram | but ill figure it out | 12:57 |
| asac | yeah ... just do a basic implementation first | 12:57 |
| asac | can be rudimentary | 12:57 |
| asac | sure ;) | 12:58 |
| asac | would be great | 12:58 |
| Elpram | any deadline on this? | 12:58 |
| asac | yeah ;) | 12:58 |
| asac | yesterday | 12:58 |
| Elpram | haha | 12:58 |
| Elpram | good | 12:58 |
| asac | no ... | 12:58 |
| asac | the sooner the better | 12:58 |
| Elpram | k | 12:58 |
| Elpram | ill get right on it | 12:58 |
| Elpram | thanks a bunch | 12:59 |
| Elpram | gotta get some supper | 12:59 |
| asac | yeah ... | 12:59 |
| asac | thanks | 12:59 |
| asac | if you need info ... let me know :) | 12:59 |
| Elpram | will do | 12:59 |
| Elpram | thanks | 12:59 |
| Elpram | cya | 12:59 |
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| hjmf | morning | 07:43 |
| hjmf | hmm, trying to reproduce bug 126917 would be hard | 07:59 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 126917 in firefox "With many tabs open, requesting print preview causes instant crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126917 | 07:59 |
| hjmf | The provided test case states: ...main window has 176 tabs open... [...] ... tab 173 is two pages long.... | 08:01 |
| hjmf | if main window has 176 tabs open, might mean that could be other "no main window" firefox windows with a similar number of tabs opened... | 08:02 |
| hjmf | crazy | 08:02 |
| hjmf | rofl :D | 08:03 |
| Admiral_Chicago | there is no need for that many tabs | 08:03 |
| Admiral_Chicago | it ends up destroying the need for tabbed browsing | 08:03 |
| hjmf | yeah, the max number of tabs I ever had open it might be less than 20 | 08:04 |
| hjmf | you can get lost with that number | 08:04 |
| hjmf | :) | 08:04 |
| hjmf | the reporter easily can provoke a DoS on the whole internet if he continues doing that :) j/k | 08:05 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i usually do like 6 browsing for email and the like and another window for work | 08:05 |
| Admiral_Chicago | yea, he'll netsplit the internet | 08:06 |
| hjmf | also he states that if he tries to RESTORE that damn session the crash happens again | 08:06 |
| hjmf | crazy | 08:06 |
| hjmf | :) | 08:06 |
| hjmf | I'm off for now | 08:09 |
| hjmf | cy Admiral_Chicago | 08:09 |
| Admiral_Chicago | bye hjmf | 08:11 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | ondra_AllPeers: welcome back | 09:10 |
| Admiral_Chicago | btw, that is a great application the team is developing | 09:10 |
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| lu | hi | 03:13 |
| lu | someone helpme to see qt in firefox on ubuntu 7.04 ? | 03:14 |
| lu | sorry for my english , i'm italian | 03:14 |
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| asac | ondra_AllPeers: ping | 04:02 |
| asac | ondra_AllPeers: you are all peers dev right? | 04:02 |
| asac | ondra_AllPeers: in latest gutsy we ship compatibility links for libnspr and libss | 04:02 |
| asac | so you don't need to link those in statically | 04:03 |
| ondra_AllPeers | asac: back | 04:39 |
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| Admiral_laptop | hmm, looks like bug 127235 is a problem | 12:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 127235 in firefox "All Add-ons are broken after 2.0.0.5 upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127235 | 12:20 |
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