=== fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-server [12:50] Is there a patch for Quagga yet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quagga/+bug/48848 [12:50] Launchpad bug 48848 in quagga "[Dapper SRU] Assertion failure in OSPF" [Medium,Confirmed] [12:51] grr. :( === kupesoft [n=dave@CPE003018b02a53-CM0018c0c44e76.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-server === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-server === tck [n=tck@78.16.125.82] has joined #ubuntu-server === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.179.3] has joined #ubuntu-server === tck [n=tck@78.16.125.82] has joined #ubuntu-server === tck_ [n=tck@A-32-25.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ubuntu-server === xjdriver69 [n=aaron@pool-71-186-69-122.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === nictuku [n=yves@201-14-125-210.bsace706.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-server === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-server === nealmcb [n=neal@wikipedia/nealmcb] has joined #ubuntu-server === VikJES [n=esauve@modemcable183.15-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-server === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-server === lousygaruserver [n=lousygar@89-139-68-177.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:08] hello, i've just noticed that the root's home folder on my server had 0755 permissions [04:09] is that known and default? bcoz i thought that /root is a safe place for passwords and keys, which is not readable by anyone by default [04:32] Passwords aren't stored in /root, they're in /etc/shadow. === pschulz01 [n=pschulz0@ubuntu/member/pschulz01] has joined #ubuntu-server === PanzerMKZ [i=Panzer@03-066.136.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-server === arturaz [n=arturaz@2002:57f7:4d58:0:0:0:0:3] has joined #ubuntu-server === arturaz [n=arturaz@2002:57f7:4d58:0:0:0:0:3] has joined #ubuntu-server === arturaz [n=arturaz@2002:57f7:4d58:0:0:0:0:3] has joined #ubuntu-server === [miles] [n=miles@bcn1.entorno.es] has joined #ubuntu-server === rvfh [n=rvfh@fe2adsl-2.wyplay.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-server === ||arifaX [n=||arifaX@inetpop1.witron.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === ivoks [n=ivoks@83-131-90-181.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@83-131-19-107.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-240-39-188.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-server === r00tintheb0x [n=Ubuntu_G@c-98-195-174-62.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === LOL_AT_LINUX [n=LOL_AT_L@c-98-195-174-62.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === LOL_AT_LINUX is now known as Michael_T_King [11:28] clear === Eversun [n=eversun@125.60.240.201] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:32] hello is 7.4 good for server? === Eversun [n=eversun@125.60.240.201] has left #ubuntu-server [] [11:54] Heres one for you === dendrobates [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [12:42] morning all. [12:44] dendrobates: Hi, Rick. You're up early? [12:44] damn babies [12:45] <`6og> heh [12:56] <`6og> (asking again in hope) - does anyone ehre have experiance with courier imap? [12:56] <`6og> i'm wondering about high (90+%) cpu utilisation when copying email from antoehr system [12:58] `6og: it's been a while, but that seems extremely high. [12:59] <`6og> dendrobates, thats what i thought, but felt its worth asking [12:59] <`6og> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND [12:59] <`6og> 10356 kgoetz 17 0 7800 5468 844 R 85.3 0.3 131:23.17 imapd [12:59] <`6og> 85's about as lwo as it gets [12:59] <`6og> *low [01:02] do you have the sysstat package installed [01:03] <`6og> no [01:04] that package contains iostat and other tools that can be used to record system performance [01:04] <`6og> just fixing my sources.list and installing it atm. :) [01:04] might be useful if this as an ongoing problem. [01:05] <`6og> it happens every time i try to copy any large amount of email over === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-server [01:08] <`6og> large is anything from a few hundred to 35,000, just fyi [01:10] <`6og> i wonder if its something to do with the dma/irq bit of my world. the harder i thrash the cpu the slower the network runs (or so it seems to me) === soren -> lunch [01:11] <`6og> later mate === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-server === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-server === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-server === tck [n=tck@A-32-25.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ubuntu-server === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-server === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-server === dendrobates [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-server.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-server === Topic for #ubuntu-server: Ubuntu Server discussion and support | for general (not server specific) support visit #ubuntu | Seriously good guide to asking questions on IRC: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html === Topic (#ubuntu-server): set by nealmcb at Sat Jul 7 23:04:50 2007 === rvfh [n=rvfh@fe2adsl-2.wyplay.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === jim [n=jpmahony@216.151.119.36] has joined #ubuntu-server [02:49] I'm having difficulty installing CGI perl module. Any documentation I don't know of? === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-server === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has left #ubuntu-server ["Ex-Chat"] === rvfh [n=rvfh@fe2adsl-2.wyplay.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-server [02:58] jim: Which module and which version of Ubuntu? [03:03] I just want to be able to execute cgiscripts on my Ubuntu Linux 6.06.1 [03:03] I thought I only needed cgi.pm [03:08] jim: Apache can execute cgi scripts as it is. [03:09] jim: Depending on your actual CGI scripts, you may need glue code of various shapes and colours. [03:09] soren: I can't execute and don't know why. I am using perl [03:11] jim: Look, to get a helpful answer, it helps if you provide some specific information about: a) what you're trying to achieve, b) what you've done, and c) what happened? [03:13] soren: sorry, let me try. I've installed ubuntu lamp server. php works but perl cgi does not. Perl is installed and I can use it from command line but not from web with cgi [03:13] jim: The information you've given me so far corresponds to calling the IKEA help desk saying "I've bought something from you. I can't assemble it. It's blue." and expecting them to guess which piece of furniture you're trying to assemble and that you tried to stick knob X into hole Y, while you should have poked nail J into hole Z. [03:14] I'm not trying to be offensive, I just find that analogies often make a point come across better. :) [03:14] lol... sorry again [03:14] jim: What's the script? Where have you put? What happened? What did you expect to happen? [03:15] I'm managing server via webmin, and can see other perl modules, but cgi module won't install [03:15] What's the script? Where have you put it? What happens? :) [03:16] And where did you install webmin from? It's not in Ubuntu (we yanked it out long ago). [03:16] The script simply displays its own code and does not execute. It is chmod 755 [03:17] is there an alternate to webmin that is prefered? [03:17] You've now answered "what happens". [03:17] What's the script? Where have you put it? [03:18] it is in /home/jim/public_html/cgi-bin [03:19] jim: There's your problem. [03:19] where should they be ? [03:19] jim: By default, random users are not allowed to run arbitrary scripts like that. [03:20] jim: /usr/lib/cgi-bin [03:21] soren:I'll try now === Bambi_BOFH [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-server === Bambi_BOFH [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-server [03:26] soren: I've moved the file, now the browser cannot find it. [03:27] jim: How are you trying to access it? [03:28] soren: my-ip-address/~jim/cgi-bin/script.cgi [03:29] jim: You've moved it.. It's at ip-adress/cgi-bin/script.cgi === kupesoft [n=dave@red-gw.cs.toronto.edu] has joined #ubuntu-server [03:29] soren: my-ip-address/cgi-bin/script.cgi shows internal server error [03:30] jim: Then you cgi script is probably broken. [03:30] jim: You'll find more info in /var/log/apache2/error.log [03:34] soren: Premature end of script headers: env.cgi [03:34] (2)No such file or directory: exec of '/usr/lib/cgi-bin/env.cgi' failed === xjdriver69 [n=aaron@69-218-127-194.ded.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [03:35] soren: above are the error's I've found [03:35] What happens if you type /usr/lib/cgi-bin/env.cgi in a terminal? [03:36] -bash: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/env.cgi: /opt/bin/perl: bad interpreter: No such file or directory [03:36] ... [03:38] edit the cgi script and correct the first line to point to the correct location of perl. [03:38] jim: " I can use it from command line " [03:38] jim: ? [03:39] soren: Its working now. I had the perl path wrong and of course the file in the wrong place. [03:39] yeah :) [03:39] soren: Thanks for your patience and your help .... ! [03:39] np [03:43] soren: what about a webmin replacement? I found webmin here. http://www.howtoforge.com/node/1388 [03:45] webmin is the devil's tool. [03:45] jim: Well, you can get security holes in all sorts of shapes and colours now. [03:45] jim: webmin is great for that. [03:45] jim: But I'm almost sure that's not what you want it for? [03:47] devil's tool ??!! [03:47] jim: But if that's what you want webmin for, you can replace it with a wide variety of stuff. The easiest is probably a compiled version of securityhole.c in your cgi-bin. [03:47] soren: I can remove it and just run from the command line if I have too. [03:48] jim: I'm trying to use humour to show you that you've asked a question that has no simple answer. I can't tell you what to replace webmin with, if I don't know why you've installed webmin to begin with. [03:49] jim: What are you trying to achieve? [03:49] soren: I only wanted to manage the server remotely, without using command line [03:49] soren: I actually only need it while configuring it and getting it up and running [03:50] soren: "Manage" can mean a lot of things. A combination of http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/warfare/8a0f/ and a simple script can be turned into a clever way to "manage" your power button on your server. [03:50] jim: What *specifically* are you trying to achieve? [03:51] jim: ^^ The power button management system comment was for you too. [03:51] soren: I was only setting up the server so I could learn more about linux and also practice developement of web/php/perl ... etc [03:53] jim: So... When I ask: "What do you want to achieve?", you answer: "I want a webserver, that can interpret php and perl scripts". [03:53] ahh well... yes [03:53] jim: For that, you open a terminal, type "sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5". That installs apache, a php5 interpreter and you already know where to put perl scripts. [03:53] jim: No webmin. [03:54] jim: webmin is the answer to a question noone should ask. [03:54] soren: I'll remove it promptly. thanks [03:55] soren: doesn't ebox answer the same question? [03:55] dendrobates: No. [03:55] dendrobates: Let's play Jeopardy :) [03:55] dendrobates: 'I'll take "Stupid software" for 1000, Alex'. [03:56] soren: sorry, you seem like you need someone to give you a hard time. [03:57] dendrobates: '"Stupid software" for 1000: "This software is a completely useless way to transform a configuration file into a html form"'. BZZZZZTTTTT! "What is webmin?" [03:57] \o/ I win! [03:57] :) [03:58] <`6og> :) [03:58] soren: it's amazing how popular it was 7 or 8 years ago. until redhat learned the error of it's ways. [03:59] <`6og> whats amazing is that its still sort of popular [03:59] ebox asks you questions. Your answers are then turned into a set of configuration file settings, possibly spread out over several packages. [03:59] it comes form commandlinephobia. [04:00] webmin takes the config files from disk, puts a where you'd normally put stuff into the config file. When you've put stuff in, you click "save" and it writes it back to disk. It's just a retarded, webified, configuration file editor. [04:00] <`6og> how many nameservers can you have in /etc/resolv.conf? [04:01] <`6og> iirc its unlimited...? [04:01] 3 [04:01] <`6og> ah ok [04:01] # define MAXNS 3 /* max # name servers we'll track */ [04:01] <`6og> is that 3 nameserver+1x search? [04:01] from /usr/include/resolv.h [04:01] (manpages are good for this) [04:01] You can put more, but they'll probably be ignored. [04:02] infinity: Amazingly so :) === `6og doesnt have source lying around (he does have man pages though) [04:03] search can have 6 entries. [04:03] All on the same line, IIRC. === mathiaz [n=mathiaz@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:03] mathiaz: Good morning. [04:04] The search list is currently limited to six domains with a total of 256 characters. [04:04] Really, manpags are good. :) [04:04] (And yes, it's all on one line) [04:04] welcome mathiaz [04:04] soren: good afternoon [04:04] dendrobates: hi [04:05] I'm finally back on my normal schedule. damn travel. [04:06] dendrobates: You were remarkably quiet at the meeting yesterday when Colin asked if everyone had gotten home safely :) [04:06] I figured it didn't need repeating. It's a long story. [04:08] dendrobates: :) === daq4th [n=darkness@netstation-004.cafe.zSeries.org] has joined #ubuntu-server === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-server === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-server === benlake [n=benlake@70.254.182.160] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:43] anyone running 6.06 and and trying to add a service to logwatch get this error: [04:43] *** Error: There is no logfile defined. Do you have a /etc/logwatch/conf/logfiles/ file ? === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:10] what do you think about bug 127180 [05:10] Launchpad bug 127180 in squid "Install squid in chroot by default" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127180 [05:11] it is a kind of "change default" [05:11] (bug 127184 is similar) [05:11] Launchpad bug 127184 in bind9 "Installing bind9 in a chroot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127184 [05:11] i thought bind chrooted itself? [05:11] coNP: In the squid bug, it is suggested that there is the option to install a chroot [05:12] coNP: when installing a package. [05:12] Kamping_Kaiser: me as well [05:12] mathiaz: you mean asking the user if she wants it in a chroot or not [05:12] Kamping_Kaiser: I don't think so. You have to configure the chroot. [05:12] coNP: Yes. [05:12] hm. [05:13] coNP: but not in the default install. [05:13] seems fine [05:13] coNP: Just that the package has the ability to install itself as a chroot if the user wants it. === ivoks [n=ivoks@37-130.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.126.116] has joined #ubuntu-server === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-server === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-server === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:47] could someone with the right permissions change this ssh bug from "invalid" to "won't fix" to mirror the recent upstream change? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/36907 [05:47] Launchpad bug 36907 in openssh "scp won't handle remote -> remote file transfers that require password authentication" [Medium,Invalid] [05:47] nealmcb: done [05:50] mathiaz: thanks! [05:51] hey guys, I know this is too server specific but since I do run servers and since you guys are smarter then 98% of the people in #ubuntu I have to ask, how do I tell the apt/dpkg system that I don't want it to ever upgrade package X? [05:51] *is not too server specific [05:52] echo "packageX hold" | dpkg --set-selections [06:06] anyone running 6.06 and and trying to add a service to logwatch get this error: "*** Error: There is no logfile defined. Do you have a /etc/logwatch/conf/logfiles/ file ?" [06:06] the file does exist, BTW [06:11] infinity, thank you === ||arifaX [n=||arifaX@pd907f5ed.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === YourMomsHero [n=cirish@74.202.196.195] has joined #ubuntu-server [06:14] benlake: does it have permissions to write to it? does it have the same permissions as the rest of the log files? [06:15] it has the same permissions as the stuff in /usr/share/logwatch/.. and I'm starting it as root in my testing so it could write to it if it wanted, but I dont think it needs to write anything [06:22] mralphabet: that answer your question? [06:31] benlake: yes, but it doesn't answer yours ;( [06:32] mralphabet: :P [06:32] mralphabet: you have any custom services setup? [06:32] benlake: no [06:32] mralphabet: and by custom I mean I've pulled it from a 7 box onto my 6.06 :) [06:36] benlake: right, no ;( [06:36] mralphabet: I have a feeling itll work if I shove it in /usr/share, but ugh [06:37] benlake: hah, probably === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-253-198.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === hansin321 [n=eric@c-71-196-138-170.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [09:26] I know the server edition used to have a different kernel than regular Ubunut (optimized for server environment). Is that still the case? [09:27] hansin321: there is linux-image-server [09:31] mathiaz: Ok, that is right. Soemthing was said on a different channel that had me thinking ubuntu server was moving to use the same kernel as plain ubuntu. Thanks. [09:32] hansin321: I think that -bigiron was dropped a couple of weeks ago. [09:33] mathiaz: Maybe that was the issue. I'll look into it, just out of curiousities sake... === donspaulding [n=don@74-134-9-210.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [09:58] does anyone know of a way for me to supply a password to sudo from my python script? === kshahnjd [n=kunalash@ool-44c0ac9c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === eddie [n=eddie@81.2.103.43] has joined #ubuntu-server [10:00] Is ubuntu - server light weight? [10:00] or packed with junk? [10:00] yes [10:01] okay.. *downloads* [10:02] does ubuntu server come with an sshd? if not could i get a recommendation on what to install? [10:03] it comes with openssh http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/openssh-server [10:05] this is a rook question but, how can i get a list of currently installed packages or can someone link me to a basic command list [10:06] i suppose all debian commands will work [10:06] kshahnjd: yes. all debian commands will work. [10:08] so, the command 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server' works, but how do I specify to grab the files from another source, like an online repository [10:08] instead of the cd [10:08] you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list [10:09] uncomment the online repositories there, but comment out the ones for the CD if you don't plan on keeping it in the drive forever :) [10:09] so uncomment the 'backports' lines? [10:10] if you want yes. [10:10] oh nvm, just comment the cdrom lines, there are many repositories defined in the file [10:10] right [10:16] anyone have some experience with customer services for logwatch in 6.06? [10:27] an anonymous user in terms of ftp is not a guest user right? [10:27] in what context? [10:28] like, I disabled anonymous login to vsftpd, and I can't login at all, it won't give me a chance to authenticate [10:28] so what is an anonymous user then? [10:29] i've never used a linux ftpd so I'm a bit confused, I use filezilla server on windows [10:29] *normally [10:33] did you enable local user login after disabling anonymous? [10:33] no, i'm going to now [10:33] local users are ones that have accounts on that server [10:34] correct [10:34] okay, so the admin account, whatever it is, will have a proper authentication [10:35] nice, it works, beautiful. thanks [10:35] np [10:37] this is so easy i'm never running a windows server again [10:38] glad to hear it :) Although they can serve their purpose in large organizations. I've never seen an OSS product that compares with Active Directory for ease of implementation or management. === donspaulding ducks before someone shoots [10:40] I have to install Trac now, but that means python has to get installed first [10:40] hmm, interesting that you should mention that, hold on a second. [10:41] eddie: I love the default install. It is light and you decide at that point what to add. [10:41] eddie: With apt-get (or whatever) after you did the install... [10:41] hansin321.... So its definitly worth it? [10:42] kshahnjd: python is installed by default, have a look at this:http://pastebin.com/f2aad93cc [10:42] Whats the text based installer like? Complicated? [10:43] Ah nevermind [10:43] eddie: I think so. I am running it on a 350mhz PII / 392M ram and two NICs. It is my firewall/gateway and I host some services on it. I liked it immediately. I have loaded Red Hat, etc. where it loads tons of junk that I didn't need. Sure, there maybe be more 'leet' ways of getting the same effect, but for an 'out of the box' experience, I have been very happy with Ubuntu Server. [10:43] donspaulding: oh wow :) [10:44] It's an outline of getting SVN/Trac installed and creating new projects [10:44] hansin321: Awesome ... Ill try it later :D [10:44] I based it off of this excellent guide: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFeisty [10:45] He has everything there, but it's not arranged very nicely, since he installs and creates a project all at once [10:45] wow, thank you, probably saved me an hour of fumbling around [10:45] 500meg disc... nice [10:45] like I said, interesting that you mentioned that, since I'm working on a python script that does all that right now [10:46] automagically connects all the components? [10:46] eddie: Installer is pretty straight forward. Text based, but nothing too tricky. [10:46] well, creates new projects, the rest of that is all a one time setup, and not nearly as difficult as it looks [10:46] okay... cheers hansin [10:47] let me give this a shot [10:47] hansin321: Does it have ssh server package on the disc? [10:47] good luck [10:47] eddie: I can't remember, but if not you can 'sudo apt-get install ssh-server'. [10:48] eddie: Also (and someone correct me if this is a bad idea), but I use the 'ubuntu-firewall' program from here: http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/2/1/ [10:49] eddie: It is just a script I think that allows you to configure it. I find it is pretty simplistic and works well. [10:50] It has a config files that lets you set things like ports to open, if you want to do nat, etc. I think it just sets all the iptables rules for you, but in a light-weight manner. [10:51] eddie: Oh, ssh-server on disk? Not sure, but very likely. [10:51] oKAY [10:51] Okay* [10:54] yay, 62gb's to copy over the network again :| [10:54] I have a direct pc-pc connection through an ethernet cable [10:54] I get about 10/megabytes a second [10:54] is that good? === YourMomsHero [n=cirish@74.202.196.195] has joined #ubuntu-server === novavision [n=novavisi@adsl-bg-070-130.wcnet.org] has joined #ubuntu-server [10:55] anyone around? [10:56] I need some help setting up an ubuntu server with lampp [10:56] eddie: That would be 80 mbit/s.. so yes, if the nic's only handle 100 mbit, that's probably good :) [10:56] Nicke: Okay .. :) [11:07] Installation time... :p [11:15] hey donspaulding, so far so good, but i hate running commands if i don't know why they work, I assume chown changes ownership of a file or folder, and the -R appears to be recursion, but what the heck is www-data:www-data [11:19] that's the user and group that you are changing the ownership to [11:19] www-data is the service account that apache runs under [11:21] Windows has a few (poorly utilized) equivalents to service accounts, think of it like IWAM_computername for IIS [11:21] I see, understood [11:21] so can I print out a list of users from the shell? [11:21] and if so, www-data should appear? [11:21] 'users' just lists me, and me via ssh [11:21] yeah, I'm not sure what the best way to do that is though, I usually just do 'cat /etc/passwd' === YourMomsHero [n=cirish@74.202.196.195] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:22] that prints out a list of all user accounts and a good number of details about them [11:22] 'users' lists all user accounts currently logged into the system [11:23] got it [11:24] the server installation didnt ask for a password [11:24] how do I set one? [11:24] oh, it (trac) wants to use sqlite, no problem if I ask it to use mssql? [11:25] I don't think it works with mssql, sqlite is fine if you're just testing, it comes preinstalled with python and you don't have to do anything to configure it [11:25] I meant mysql, sry [11:25] oh, yeah, mysql's supported [11:26] I don't know how to specify the line though [11:26] they're format is [sqlite:db/trac.db] [11:26] [mysql:db/trac.db] ? :) [11:26] you'll have to look up the syntax for that line on trac's website [11:26] kk [11:27] should be more like mysql://user@host:port/db_name === donspaulding says always verify me [11:27] mysql://root@localhost:3306/trac i guess, let me see [11:28] i wonder if the db has to be created b4 [11:30] nope :) failed === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-253-198.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:33] Setting a root password anyone? [11:33] uh oh, if I try to initenv again it says does the environment already exist, and so clearly yes it does, but the db connection is screwed up [11:33] now I gotta modify that setting manual and complete the init [11:33] eddie: for what? [11:34] Ubuntu server [11:34] It didnt ask to set one during installation [11:34] passwd [11:35] dont I need to be root to do that though? [11:35] try it, if not sudo passwd [11:36] ah yeah [11:36] cheers === VikJES [n=esauve@modemcable183.15-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:37] "Host key verification failed." [11:37] damn ssh :| [11:37] Im such a n00b with it [11:38] heading out now, good luck kshahnjd [11:38] hehe, thanks, i f*ed myself with the mysql thing [11:38] does anyone know why I cant connect to my other PC? [11:38] gotta screw with tracadmin now i think [11:39] RSA host key for ********* has changed :| === donspaulding [n=don@74-134-9-210.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #ubuntu-server [] [11:41] eddie: ssh is comparing the server's host key against one that you have previously saved. you need to remove the old key. [11:41] lcdd: How would I go about doing that? o.o [11:42] eddie: right next to the error ssh should say which file contains the key [11:43] okay [11:43] Add correct host key in... [11:43] that file ( after that ) [11:45] awesome ... thanks lcdd === mathiaz [n=mathiaz@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-server === infinity2 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [12:00] OH CRAP, I just got a kernel panic [12:02] VFS unable to mount root partition(0,0)