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netwalkerhello. excuse the manners, but is here someon may I ask about a "rogue" wifi driver? (iwlwifi on kubuntu 7.04)12:17
randywhat the heck is GTK+ 2.0 I cant find it anywhere12:17
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crdlb!info libgtk2.0-0 | randy12:17
uboturandy: libgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.11-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 2481 kB, installed size 5372 kB12:17
randythanks12:17
randydamn lib thingies12:17
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stdinnetwalker: it's best if you just ask the question12:19
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netwalkerwell, I got here a buddy with a quite new toshiba laptop. according to google it uses the iwlwifi driver but we have no clue how to install it. besides, the readme sais it's tested ONLY on Gentoo12:22
sfirecan anyone direct me to a guide for getting a ATI video card working with kubuntu (I don't need beryl)12:23
netwalker(and it crash and burn miserably when trying to patch the kernel source)12:23
stdinnetwalker: it's already installed12:23
stdin(in feisty at least)12:23
NightBirdstdin: I think for close source drivers you still have to explicitly install them12:24
stdinNightBird: it's not close source, it's intel12:24
netwalkerbingo12:24
NightBirdstdin: woops12:24
NightBirdwrong person12:24
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NightBirdsfire: install the drivers from adept...12:24
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vzduch!ati | sfire12:25
ubotusfire: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:25
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sfirevzduch: thanks :)12:26
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stdinnetwalker: usually with intel hardware you don't need to do anything, intel make open source drivers12:27
netwalkerwell, I tried installing the driver directly. this is what it says:12:27
netwalkerChecking kernel compatibility in:12:27
netwalker    /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/source12:27
netwalker12:27
netwalkermac80211 headers not found in:12:27
netwalker12:27
DragnslcrUgh12:27
netwalker    /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/source/include/net/12:27
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vzduch!paste | netwalker12:27
ubotunetwalker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:27
DragnslcrWhy do people think pasting a dozen lines is a good idea?12:27
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netwalkerwell, thats the funny thing. I got a laptop just a month older than my friend's. mine works, his is not working. (woops, didn't know about the big texts... -_-U )12:28
stdinnetwalker: run this command "modinfo iwlwifi" on your friends computer, if you see some info  then it's installed already12:29
vzduchnetwalker: well, next time read the topic :)12:29
netwalker(my fault... too much center clicks, you end up doing it withought thinging)12:29
netwalker(sorry)12:29
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randyFinally the configure worked! Thank you guys for all your help! >_> Ill try not to ask anymore questions for a few hours12:32
NightBirdrandy: we're in here to help, so don't be afraid to ask questions12:33
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stonedrandy: lol12:34
stonedcute12:34
randyHehe, Ill stick around through and try to help others.12:34
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netwalkerwell thanks! apparently the mod is installed. but it doesn't show up on modconf. odd... I'll try myself from here. Thanks a lot, people!12:38
LadySerenais there a ports mechanism in kubuntu?12:38
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NightBirdLadySerena: do you mean, is there a mechanism to download and install prebuilt software?  yes.  using Adept12:40
LadySerenano, not precompiled12:40
LadySerenaports12:40
NightBirdI believe you can download the source as well12:40
NightBirdusing the same versions as what is in the repo12:40
LadySerenaI can't find any docs on the Ports Collection in kubuntu.12:41
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vzduchLadySerena: Linux != BSD12:42
LadySerenaI get that.12:42
LadySerenabut I'd like a way to install from ports, not packages12:43
NightBirdLadySerena: look into how to download the source code using apt-get12:43
vzduchthen don't look for ports.. the only thing coming close to the BSD ports system is Gentoo's portage12:43
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VIkentiokay x_x 1 moooore question. Pidgin says I need an SSL lib file.  Which one do I need?12:44
VIkentiI downloaded the libssl.9.8 but that one doesnt work12:45
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ElofDenOndeso... which distro do you guys run ?12:47
VIkenti....kubuntu?12:48
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ElofDenOndenice12:48
WhtWolfTeraDyneElofDenOnde: Kubuntu and Wolvix12:48
ElofDenOndeactually, i kinda was being ironic :-)12:49
VIkentioh haha, i was wondering there12:49
WhtWolfTeraDyneElofDenOnde: Don't you mean "sarcastic"?12:49
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ElofDenOndeyeah12:50
blizzzek"memory footprint" is the same as usage of ram, isn't it?12:50
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WhtWolfTeraDyneblizzzek: I beleive so.12:54
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blizzzekWhtWolfTeraDyne: thx12:54
elite1hey how do i change my screen res.?12:54
elite1? any idea's?12:55
blizzzekelite1: what about system settings?12:56
jhutchinselite1: You probably need to load a different driver for your video card.12:56
WhtWolfTeraDyneelite1: K Menu > System Settings > Monitor & Display12:56
elite1no12:56
jhutchins!video | elite112:56
ubotuelite1: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications12:56
elite1i had it working yesterday it was all fine but today its now 640x48012:56
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jhutchinsNope, that's not it...12:56
jhutchins!fixres | elite112:56
elite1lol i have ubuntu 6.0612:56
ubotuelite1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:56
jhutchins!ati | elite112:57
ubotuelite1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:57
elite1thanks i will try all of these12:57
jhutchinselite1: lspci to figure out what chipset it is, google to find what driver xorg needs for it.12:57
elite1i heard of something kardyark or something?12:57
jhutchins!xorg12:57
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:57
elite1in terminal12:57
jhutchinsRight.12:57
jhutchinselite1: Sorry, I gotta go, hungry horses.12:57
jhutchinsDid CS5 get things fixed?12:57
ryjinHey all12:57
ryjinI have a bit of a problem running Planeshift, this is the error it gives me in the konsel12:58
ryjinryjin@ryjin-desktop:~$ '/home/ryjin/PlaneShift/psc'12:58
ryjin/home/ryjin/PlaneShift/psc: error while loading shared libraries: libCgGL.so: ca                                nnot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:58
elite1i have a nividia vanta (old old old card)12:58
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elite1but it wont let me go to any res. just only 640x480 im in display settings and the slider wont move12:59
elite1i think i need new drivers or i will switch cards and restart the computer than restart and switch again?01:00
VIkenti!display | elite101:00
ubotuelite1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:00
elite1maybe it will redo the hardware changes and my card will work because it is supported01:00
Sanneryjin: I think libCgGL.so is part of a proprietary library from Nvidia... I have it, and I did install it manually in /usr/local/lib. Let me find you the link, sec.01:00
ryjinok thank you01:00
elite1i dont think its my card thats changing the res. i think i have to restart my pc to reload the drivers01:01
elite1brb01:02
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elite1and its saying NV wich is nivdia as the card name and NV for drivers so it has the right drivers just kinda mssed up when starting the pc01:02
elite1nvidia*01:02
Sanneryjin: here it is: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/cg_toolkit.html01:03
ryjinWould work if I have an intel card?01:04
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Sanneryjin: I don't recommend to put those libs to /usr/lib, /usr/bin etc, but to /usr/local/lib, /usr/local/bin, so you keep those hand installed packages separate from the directories that are governed by the package manager.01:05
Sanneryjin: I made notes what I put where, I'lkl pastebin it for you.01:06
ryjinok01:06
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netwalkeroh, men. ok, the iwlwifi mistery is solved. module loaded, BUT the ath_pci module wasn't loaded. but why?01:07
Sanneryjin: I'm writing some additional instructions for you to make /usr/local/lib accessible for your system. Just a minute.01:07
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ryjinAlrighty01:08
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elite1thanks got the screen res back to normal lol. Now it seems to big...01:09
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chucki'm having trouble getting proftpd running on ubuntu 6.10. can anyone suggest an alternative that may be easier to get going?01:12
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chuck!nfs01:14
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.01:14
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Sanneryjin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30624/01:15
ryjinthank you :)01:16
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ryjini'll be back later01:16
Sanneryjin: ok, good luck :)01:16
randyargh, it says to click the "Administrator Mode" button, but there isn't one!01:17
elite1can u have dual graphics cards with 2 diffrent brands?01:18
elite1so that they both share the video ram and frame rates01:18
elite1?01:18
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pvandewyngaerdehow do i record desktop ?01:19
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Daisuke_Idohuh?01:20
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xela010hola01:22
xela010alguien por ahi?01:22
WhtWolfTeraDyne!es01:22
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:22
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elite1is there any programs that have a synthesizer for guitar like an effects prossecor?01:24
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elite1to hook up an electric guitar too and add in effects?01:24
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Sanneelite1: check in #ubuntustudio and #lad, the linux audio people01:25
emilykubuntu isn't automounting any external devices01:26
emilyanyone know anything about this?01:26
Sanneemily: I only ever tried usb sticks, and those work fine for me (on dapper). Not much help...01:27
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elite1Sanne, how to i conntact them01:28
elite1do*01:28
emilyI'm on feisty and I've got nothing01:28
emilyI've been on dapper01:28
Sanneelite1: you join the channels, they are here on freenode. Type: /join #channelname01:28
emilyand it works01:28
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pvandewyngaerdehow do i capture desktop screen video ?01:30
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elite1Sanne, lol i clicked on the link #channelname wondering where every one was?01:30
Sanneemily: hmm, so it also works on dapper for you, interesting. You could try to minotor the syslog and see what it does when you connect a device. To do that, open konsole, type (no quotes): 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' , then connect the device and watch what it sais.01:31
Sanneelite1: haha01:31
elite1Sanne, thanks there really helpful!!01:33
Sanneelite1: you're welcome :)01:33
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randyyou know youre board when you scroll through the desktops just so you can hear the neat noises01:38
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sam543643is 5600 fps unusually slow  for glxgears?01:38
sam543643with an 7600gs01:39
randyhow do you tell your fps on there?01:39
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sam543643it gets shown in terminal01:39
WhtWolfTeraDynerandy: You know when you recompile KDE just for fun.01:39
randyi have a 7600 gs so ill tell you once i find out lol01:39
WhtWolfTeraDyneyour're bored*01:39
randy10713 is what i get01:39
randyXD oh well, were all nerds here01:40
Sannesam543643: 10125.038 FPS on a 7600 GT01:40
randyso i guess 5600 is slow01:40
sam543643why is mine so slow? what could be the reason?01:40
randyyou have the right drivers? got anything else running?01:40
sam543643i have the latest driver01:40
sam543643kwin not compiz, only a couple of programs running01:40
sam543643im using 7.1001:41
randyhmm01:41
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sam543643because it detects my network card01:41
randy*shrugs* Im a linux newbie so Im not completly sure01:41
elite1how do i turn on multiunivers and unvierse in adept wich ones do i enable all the debian ones?01:41
randy!repositories01:42
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:42
randyI think01:42
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Sanneelite1: and also this:01:43
Sanne!repos | elite101:44
elite1can i make my own IRC freenode channel?01:44
ubotuelite1: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:44
Sanneelite1: yes, just type: /join #yourchannel01:44
elite1i know that but wich ones do i enable01:44
elite1?01:45
randyAll of mine were enabled when I installed01:45
Sanneelite1: I never did it via adept manager, so I don't know. I always do it by editing /etc/apt/sources.list by hand. I hope somebody can help you with the adept way, otherwise we would have to go through the manual editing.01:46
elite1stupid lag its like 5min no one talks and then the screen runs down with a whole bunch of text out of no where01:47
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randyhmm01:47
randywhat kind of connection you got?01:47
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randyand whats the lag say down on the bottom right of Konversation?01:48
WhtWolfTeraDyneNeed some help. I've got a PCMCIA TV tuner card that shows up as "02:00.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)"01:48
sam543643does 7.10 have any sort of nvidia driver bugs?01:48
WhtWolfTeraDyneIt's a Play TV Mobile. Anyone know what I need to do to get it to work??01:49
randysam453643 have you ever run automatix?01:49
sam543643randy no why?01:49
vzduchsam543643: it's alpha, don't expect everything to work flawlessly01:49
randyoh 7.01:49
randy7.10 I dunno never ran it01:49
sam5436437.04 dosent support my network card yet 6.10 does...01:50
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sam543643is that normal?01:50
WhtWolfTeraDynesam543643: I wouldn't think so.01:50
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sam543643im in a dilema atm whether to switch to debian or stick with ubuntu01:51
elite1_ts because my internet is wireless rite so when i re-install kubuntu it fails for security because i did not enable the wireless card on the live01:51
randyewww wireless01:51
randy*hisssss*01:51
elite1_lol01:52
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elite1_well thats why01:52
randywhats NDISWrapper?01:52
vzduch!ndiswrapper01:52
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:52
randyoh xD01:52
elite1_so it doesnt do any updates because im not connected to the internet maybe it would help if i enabled it on the live cd and then installed kubuntu01:52
vzduch!info ndiswrapper01:53
ubotuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas01:53
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WhtWolfTeraDynerandy: It's a kernel module that lets you install the Windows driver for most, if not all, unsupported wireless cards.01:53
randyI see01:53
WhtWolfTeraDyne!info ndiswrapper-utils01:53
ubotuPackage ndiswrapper-utils does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas01:53
randyI refuse to use wireless so thats not a problem for me ^^01:53
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elite1__arg!!! my thing keeps on dis connecting01:56
randyhardline it01:56
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randyfor the longest time i had just a random hole in my wall with cables coming out of it01:57
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sam543643is ubuntu popular because its easy to use, has a large community or because it is technically better?02:00
Daisuke_Idoyes yes and no02:01
WhtWolfTeraDynesam543643: I find that it's because it's easy to use AND because it has a large community.02:01
randyhmm which one IS the most technically advanced? gentoo?02:02
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xela010hola02:10
xela010hay alguien por ahi?02:10
xela010hola02:11
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PsychoDrakes pessoal aki :S02:21
PsychoDrakeXD02:21
PsychoDrakeppl tou a precisar de ajuda :P02:21
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PsychoDraketenho um modem icedata500 alguem me sabe diser como o ponho a funcionar no kubuntu 7.04?02:22
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randyhmm what language is that?02:23
WhtWolfTeraDynerandy: not sure...02:23
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randyIs it spanish? Im trying a translator but it wont do it02:23
randyportreguese i think02:24
WhtWolfTeraDynerandy: Whois doesn't help.02:24
randyPerguntam-se se os trabalhos de modem em kubuntu?02:25
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randyUsted se pregunta si el mdem trabaja en el kubuntu?02:26
randyeither they left or i insulted them somehow lol02:27
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K`zanHi folks, I installed kpilot so I could sync my Z31 into kontact and if I try I get:  [x]  Cannot load part for Suncronization - Library files for "libmultisynkpart.la" not found in paths [ OK ] .  Anyone have an idea on this problem?  TMIA!02:42
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K`zanAlso: feisty02:43
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ice9hello friends02:47
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ice9I need help getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 1300, who can step up to such a beastly challenge?02:47
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ice9I need help getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 1300, who can step up to such a beastly challenge?02:56
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randyhumph, checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths02:57
ardchoillerandy: What are you compiling?02:59
randyKDM Theme Manager02:59
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ardchoillerandy: Why are you compiling it when it's in the repos?03:00
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randyits in the repos? o_O03:01
ardchoille!info kdmtheme03:01
ubotukdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 103 kB, installed size 268 kB03:01
randymine didnt find it03:01
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randyoh03:01
randyit says ints installed already o_O03:01
ardchoillerandy: Enable universe, then sudo apt-get install kdmtheme  then it'll will show up as a module in kcontrol03:01
ardchoillekcontrol System Administration -> KDM Theme Manager03:02
randyooooooh03:02
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ardchoillerandy: I've been using ubuntu for years and haven't had to compile anything.03:03
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randyargh its saying none of them are valid, what is the usual extention on the themes?03:03
ardchoilleI even use one of my 11 machiens to control the lights in my house03:03
randyo_o03:04
ardchoillerandy: usually they are tarballs (.tar.gz)03:04
randyoh03:04
randyno wonder they wont work03:04
randyi extracted them XD03:04
ardchoillelol03:04
randyso how exactly do they control the lights?03:05
ardchoilleperls scripts and modules I bought at a comapny03:05
randybut what does it do? make them brighten and dim?03:05
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ice9when I try to do add/remove programs it says theres already a program open using root, how can I find out what it is03:06
ardchoilleand turn them off and on03:06
randydo you have adept running?03:06
ice9not that I know of03:06
randyand every theme i find on KDE-Look wont work with the Theme Manager03:07
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ice9this is pretty annoying, not being able to add/remove program03:09
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ice9says something else is using the packaging03:09
ardchoillerandy: You can just unpack kdm themes into /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes, since that's all the theme manager does anyway03:09
ardchoilleice9: ps aux | grep apt03:10
ardchoilleice9: Look for package managers (aptitude, apt-get, etc)03:10
ice96028  0.0  0.0   2884   752 pts/1    R+   18:10   0:00 grep apt03:10
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ardchoille!fixadept | ice903:11
ubotuice9: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:11
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MaTiAzis it possible to do symbolic links to directories?03:12
knappWhen I connect to Kopete, I get this message: "You are not allowed to add yourself to the contact list." How can I get rid of it?03:12
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ice9oh hey cool! Thanks Ardchoille!03:13
ardchoilleice9: You're welcome :)03:13
ardchoilleMaTiAz: yes03:13
ses59_is there a channel for kppp03:14
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ardchoilleMaTiAz: man ln03:14
ses59_i have modem installed and now it dials and dials and dials does not connect03:15
ardchoilleses59_: Maybe it's a really long phone number03:15
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ses59_7 numbers03:15
ses59_dials the same number over and over03:16
MaTiAzardchoille: So for example ln -st /home/matiaz /myplace/ would do the job?03:16
ardchoilleMaTiAz: ln -s /path/to/link/to /path/name/of/link03:18
MaTiAzardchoille: ah, ok, thanks a lot :)03:19
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ardchoilleYou're welcome :)03:19
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ice9So, anybody in here a genius with getting 3d acceleration working with ati radeon x1300?03:25
ardchoille!ati03:25
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:26
ardchoilleSomebody oil the bot!03:26
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ice9Ya I've followed that already :/03:26
ardchoille:(03:27
ardchoilleice9: Did you restart xorg?03:27
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ice9yes03:27
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ice9I'm assuming this issue will need a more in depth answer than most guides offer03:29
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intelikeywell i think i have the basics all worked out,   i ssh'd into box2 from box1  switched users and started to come in here then remembered that i hadn't dialed up yet, so i ssh'd into box1 from box2 and dialed up  cause it's the one that has the modem    then back in box2 i connected this client....      (yes that's confusing)   now   howto mount an fs on another box ?03:29
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ardchoilleintelikey: Once you're ssh'd in, it should be as if you were sitting at the box, right?03:30
intelikeyright03:30
ardchoilleintelikey: And, yes, that was confusing, lol03:30
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intelikeybut that's not what i'm asking about.      forget ssh.    howto mount fs on box1   somewhere on box2  so anything on box2 can access the fs ?03:31
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ardchoilleOh, that's a diff matter entirely03:32
intelikeyardchoille yes.   the other i got....  :)03:32
K`zanHi folks, I installed kpilot so I could sync my Z31 into kontact and if I try I get:  [x]  Cannot load part for Suncronization - Library files for "libmultisynkpart.la" not found in paths [ OK ] .  Anyone have an idea on this problem?  Running Feisty. TMIA!03:33
intelikeysomething with  "nfs"  in it ???03:33
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intelikeyardchoille if you answered i missed it...   triped the wrong box  and reset me ppp003:36
ardchoilleintelikey: I've never used nfs, can't comment I'm afraid.03:36
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intelikeyfair enough03:37
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intelikeyardchoille any kind of file sharing ?03:37
ardchoilleintelikey: Perhaps post this question on ubuntuforums.org ?03:37
ardchoilleintelikey: I don't allow any file sharing, never had a need for it.03:37
ardchoilleIf I did, it would be a simple as scp03:38
tech404Anyone used kuartet desktop?03:38
intelikeythat would require regestering.    and i'm progesting all regestrations...03:38
Daisuke_Idowhat's kuartet?03:38
intelikeyardchoille yeah i can scp   and have   but i'm trying to "learn a new trick"03:38
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t43hi all03:39
ardchoilleintelikey: Ah, ok, good luck. Might write up a tut when you get it going :)03:39
intelikeyprogesting/protesting03:39
tech404its an extition of KDE based on Mezzo desktop from symphnoy desktop03:39
intelikeymight03:39
t43I have a WM5 Smart phone.  Kubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it.  Any ideas?03:39
tech404extinction *03:39
intelikeythis is so wierd   /exec eject  opens the tray  on the other box  from where i am sitting     although this is the box with the modem in it....        </confusion>03:40
ardchoilleintelikey: Can you just imagine the look on someone's face when you do that?03:40
ardchoille"Need a cup holder?"03:41
intelikeyardchoille :)    you should have see my friend when we first worked this out     i did    init 6 & exit    :)03:41
ardchoillehahahahaha03:41
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intelikey"this is not windows, why is it restarting?"   lol03:42
ardchoillelol03:42
intelikeyeyes like silver dollars   0.003:43
intelikeythen i disabled ssh root access when it rebooted,   can't have that happening to many times you know.03:44
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Daisuke_Idoso many problems :(03:44
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mileshey yall03:44
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intelikey4 miles03:45
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Daisuke_Idomeh :\03:45
milescan we talk about virtualization?03:45
Daisuke_Idoevery time i run forward in UT, it looks like i start skipping from place to place03:45
Daisuke_Idosudden little jumps forward03:45
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WhtWolfTeraDyneBBL *sets away*03:46
miles!xen03:46
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy03:46
elite1_hey what is your guy's ping ?03:46
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ardchoilleI believe Xen is being merged into the Linux kernel03:47
intelikey-:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 0.598 seconds03:47
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intelikeyelite1_ you mean like that ?03:47
elite1_lol mine is 671ms03:47
intelikeywell i'm on dialup   but not many hops to google     i've never checked to freenode03:48
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elite1_yeah or wait03:49
elite1_lag03:49
elite1_in the corner of konversation03:49
elite1_mine goes from 752 down to 103:49
randymine stays around 16303:50
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intelikeylooks like 7 hops to freenode,   this would be a really fast connection if it wasn't dialup03:50
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NickPrestaAnyone have any experience with kdenlive? I need a simple video editor (cut scenes, add/remove sound)03:52
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randyhmm anyone know any good linux games?03:54
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ardchoillerandy: http://www.happypenguin.org/03:54
ardchoilleHave fun03:55
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randythankies03:55
ardchoillerandy: There are some decent games in the repos03:55
ardchoille!info nezuiz03:55
ubotuPackage nezuiz does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:55
ardchoille!info nexuiz03:55
ubotunexuiz: A fast-paced 3D Ego-Shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.3-1 (feisty), package size 593 kB, installed size 1488 kB03:55
ardchoille!info openarena03:55
ubotuopenarena: A fast-paced 3D Ego-Shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-2 (feisty), package size 747 kB, installed size 1652 kB03:55
ice9having some trouble installing java plugin, everytime I try to go apt-get commands, it tries to install itself and wont' let me get past the screen03:56
elite1okay i fixed my internet problem my router (i mean theres) was set at 192.168.0.100 and so was mine so i changed it to 192.168.10703:56
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elite1how can i set konqueror to a homepage so that when i open it up its always on www.google.com03:58
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ice9anybody else experience trouble installing java?04:00
elite1_is KTorren any good?04:02
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MaTiAzelite1_: It has been banned from some trackers, but other than that it's pretty good04:02
elite1_what?04:03
elite1_trackers?04:03
elite1_so its kinda illegal?04:03
elite1_is everyone not talking im trying to get my internet prob resolved lol04:06
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elite1_some type something04:07
randysome trackers dont like the ktorrent app04:07
elite1_thanks04:07
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elite1_what are trackers?04:07
MarcChow do I view the WINE software I've installed?04:07
randygo to the /.wine/drive_c/ i think04:08
elite1_there is so many bit torrent downloaders i can name like 1004:08
MaTiAzelite1_: tracker is a server which keeps track of the files and users of course04:08
randyazuerues, utorrent, bittornado, bitspirit, abctorrent, bittorrent, not another bit torrent client.04:09
MaTiAzhelps the programs find each other so they can send data :P04:09
randyjust to name a few04:09
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MaTiAzyeah04:09
elite1_so if i use bittorrent the will know..04:09
MarcCthanks randy04:09
runleveltenktorrent is great. I've never come across any of these supposed problems with it.04:09
MaTiAzelite1_: Well yes, the tracker owner will know04:10
elite1_dont for get BITLORD lol04:10
randyi havent had a problem yet either04:10
elite1_not just for bit torrents04:10
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MaTiAzI need to replace my utorrent with 1.6.1, every newer version sends info to copyright organizations04:10
elite1_opps i gues i shouldnt use it then...04:10
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MaTiAzStupid BitTorrent corporation04:10
randythats not good lol04:11
MaTiAzYeah04:11
runleveltenOh, you guys are using it for taht stuff. OK then \o/04:11
elite1_lol04:11
elite1_they go so slow thou04:11
elite1_i dont see why ppl dont just use megaupload and sendspace?04:11
randydepends on what ports you use04:11
randyi hate megaupload04:11
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MaTiAzrunlevelten: No, it sends data regardless of what you download, be it linux distros or software you don't own :P04:12
ice9so um after I edited xorg.conf in console, how do I save it?04:12
elite1_i was downloading ra2 and wow 650mb took like 3hours04:12
Disabledhello04:12
Disabledis there My computer icon in kubuntu ?04:12
runleveltenI thought utorrent only ran on legacy OSes anyway?04:12
MaTiAzice9: If you used nano, press ctrl+o04:12
runleveltenIs there a kubuntu version now?04:12
elite1_System menu?04:12
MaTiAzrunlevelten: It runs fine vie Wine :)04:12
runleveltenew.04:12
MaTiAz*via04:12
runleveltenThat sucks.04:12
ice9MaTiAz I use vim04:12
MarcCDisabled: there is a system menu...it's similar04:12
MaTiAzice9: Oh, I dunno then, sorry04:13
MaTiAzrunlevelten: Well yeah a bit.04:13
elite1_its funny removeable devices look like Ipod's04:13
runleveltenelite1_: the bandwidth required to do things via central servers is atronomical - that's the whole point of distributing your software via bittorrent04:13
fyrmedicHow do I check to see if my USB port is getting a signal from a device that is connected to it?04:13
DisabledMarcC can i put system menu on desktop?04:13
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Disableddo you understand that i mean04:14
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MaTiAzToo bad that unreal tournament doesn't run well on wine, at least on my computer04:14
runleveltenpeople share the load amongst themselves, contributing back to the project instead of sucking money out of it.04:14
MarcCDisabled: probably...I'm not sure how though04:14
MaTiAzI get under 1 fps when running it on Wine, and I cant get the native linux binaries installed :(04:14
elite1_runlevelten, so am i acutally downloading from someones personal server or do they upload there stuff to eg. piratebay.org?04:14
DisabledMarcC ok thanks04:14
MarcCDisabled: I would just put a shortcut to Konqueror on your desktop04:15
MaTiAzelite1_: No, you're downloading from a lot of people, one bit at a time04:15
elite1_ic04:15
MarcCDisabled: right-click -> create new -> link to device works too04:15
MaTiAzThat's why distributing big files via bittorrent is great04:15
MaTiAzIt shares the load04:15
runleveltenelite1_: It's a scatter-gather network. Your connection/resources are shared with everyone else's to create what's effectively a giant distributed server04:15
runleveltenif you see what I mean04:15
elite1_so if all of there computers are shut off i can no longer upload the the bits?04:15
randyi dont contribute alot :( my upload rate is HORRID04:15
NickPrestaDisabled, I created a Konqueror Shortcut. Super + K opens Konqueror in the $HOME directory04:15
elite1_i know04:16
MaTiAzelite1_: or download04:16
runleveltenEvery copy is gradually updated. Nothing is uploaded to a tracker like tpb.04:16
elite1_okay ic04:16
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elite1_but it starts out with only 1person showing there download and then other people download it and it goes on forever?04:16
MaTiAzelite1_: yeah04:16
fyrmedicHow do I figure out what /dev my gps is on if it is conn. via USB04:16
runleveltenapart from the info that you need to join the torrent, obviously :)04:16
elite1_yeah'04:17
runleveltenelite1_: in effect04:17
MaTiAzmeh, downloading nexuiz makes my SSH lag04:17
MaTiAzOh well, I can cope with it :P04:17
randyxD04:17
randyim downloading quake on bit torrent and nexuiz in adept04:17
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MaTiAzBesides, I'm halfway through \:D/04:17
randygetting a decent rate on both too04:17
runleveltentremulous > nexuiz*10004:17
MaTiAzah, quake is classic04:17
NickPrestaTremulous is awesome04:18
MaTiAzIt's great on PSP too04:18
elite1_but how to you publish that you have say a game.iso and want a torrent to download to your pc? do u use a open network or a program or a server (personal one?)04:18
elite1_ps1 emu on psp 3.03oe-c is sweet lol04:18
elite1_runlevelten, but how to you publish that you have say a game.iso and want a torrent to download to your pc? do u use a open network or a program or a server (personal one?)04:18
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runleveltenelite1_:  Well normally if you release a game you provide a link to the torrent file on its download page.04:19
elite1_or you tell a torrent site and they link you from the torrent program to your pc04:19
MaTiAzelite1_: Either way04:19
MaTiAzYou upload it on your own site, or a public tracker, or a private one04:19
elite1_okay ic and they generate a URL?/torrent file04:19
elite1_forsome one to save and download04:20
MaTiAzyeah04:20
elite1_okay04:20
randyall this stuff is making my brain hurt >_<04:20
MaTiAzthe torrent file contains the info hash of the file and the tracker address04:20
runleveltenelite1_: if you've made a game you're releasing, you should have a web page for it - there are plenty of free services to do that.04:20
MaTiAzrandy: heh, why?04:20
randyIts late and Im sleept :)04:20
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MaTiAzrandy: Heh, 5:21 am here04:21
randywhat time zone?04:21
K-Ryan10:21pm here04:21
K-RyanEST04:21
MaTiAzSkipping sleeping tonight, maybe my sleeping rhythm gets back to normal before I go back to school :)04:21
randylol04:21
randyoooo a show on mui thai!04:22
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elite1_i thought maybe ppl would upload there stuff to say pirate bay and then your download the torrent of pirate bay like on there servers04:22
elite1_but they just provide the advertise ment04:22
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chcampbhello04:23
MaTiAzhi04:23
chcampbare there any good posts on getting external hard drives working in kubuntu? i have someone trying to get it to recognize to no available... but i'm helping him remotely and need a resource04:24
chcampbthere was a post about using gksudo gkedit /etc/fstab would that be the one? if04:25
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chaotic_i got a question if u add  kde to ubuntu  does that make  it  kubuntu04:25
randybasically04:26
chcampbno, its ubuntu with kde04:26
chcampb:p there will be differences, compatabilities mostly04:26
chaotic_thats what  idi04:26
K-Ryanchaotic_: It's ubuntu with kde, for it to be Kubuntu, you need to add all the kde apps04:26
chaotic_but for some reason when i boot up it says kubuntu04:26
randywhen i added kde to ubuntu it said it worked like kde but it just got messy lol04:26
DragnslcrIf you actually want to turn it into Kubuntu, you can install the kubuntu-desktop package04:26
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chaotic_thats what i did04:27
K-Ryan(K-Ryan just went to the bathroom, his brother typing)04:27
chaotic_kubuntu desktop04:27
chaotic_hey is        there some   way to show drives04:27
chaotic_on my desktop  like  ubuntu does04:27
DragnslcrI believe kubuntu-desktop installs KDE and everything else that Kubuntu installs04:27
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chaotic_well  mounted drives anyways04:28
DragnslcrI think KDE does by default04:28
chaotic_no it doesnt04:28
DragnslcrAt least it did last time I noticed04:28
chaotic_is there someway to make a shortcut04:28
chaotic_on desktop04:28
DragnslcrAh, think I found it04:29
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DragnslcrRight click the desktop -> Configure Desktop -> Behavior -> Device Icons04:29
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cemckay Hello. I am trying to use the fish protocol in a KDE application, but it tells me that there is no such protocol. My guess is that it isn't installed. How do I get fish:// to work? Which package, etc. Can anyone help? Thanks04:29
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adeniciochaotic: wat are u trying to do?mount your xp hdd on your desktop?04:31
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chaotic_sudo  ./reconfigure xserver-xorg04:33
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chaotic_hey is that right04:33
adeniciochaotic_: do u want to know how to mount a hdd on your desktop?or your partition xp oN YOUR DESCKTOP?04:33
randyi dont think you need the /04:33
elite1__how do u, do that with the blue star's04:33
K-RyanSorry, took a detour there too...04:34
chaotic_for some reason ubuntu had mounted my xp partition already when i installed it04:34
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chaotic_it showed on my desktop04:34
chaotic_whats the command for reconfigure xorg04:35
Dragnslcrchaotic_- did you check to make sure KDE is set to show icons for mounted drives?04:35
chaotic_wheres   that option drag04:35
adeniciochaotic_:there no option drag just drag and they will tell u if u want to link04:36
Dragnslcr[22:29]  <<Dragnslcr>> Right click the desktop -> Configure Desktop -> Behavior -> Device Icons04:36
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draikI have a bit of an issue with a card reader04:38
Disabledhey peoples, does kubuntu has an program that will detect if around are any Wi-Fi availbable points?04:38
draikIt reads my camera's XD card04:38
Disabledor an program that can scan Wi-Fi availbable points?04:38
Disabled:)04:38
draikBut it won't read my phone's micro SD (in an SD adapter)04:38
draikAny ideas?04:38
chaotic_whats the command to reconfigure xorg04:39
chaotic_plz help04:40
chaotic_the most its letting me from my graphics  card  is 102404:40
Disabledchaotic_ forget it04:40
Disabled;(04:40
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chaotic_man i know its an easy command i just for got it04:41
adenicioI NEED SOMEONE TO SEND ME A DEB FILE OF FIRE FOX BECAUSE I CANT SURF WITH KONQUEROR IT KEEP GIVIN ERROR THAT IT CANT CONECT TO HOST :-(04:41
chaotic_is it sudo /reconfigure xserver-xorg04:41
Disabledfor long time my X did not crash and i forgot the command of xorg reconfigure04:41
Admiral_Chicagoadenicio: packages.ubuntu.com04:41
Admiral_Chicagowhich version?04:42
Admiral_Chicagohold on.04:42
Admiral_Chicagowhat release are you on?04:42
Disableddpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:42
Disabledthis works too04:42
chaotic_one of u has to remember the reconfigure command04:42
Disabled:)04:42
Disabledsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:42
draikDisabled: Darn, you just beat me to it04:43
adenicioi tink im on feity(kubuntu) 4.05 something like that04:43
DragnslcrWow, way to make up a number04:44
Disabledadenicio from console do sudo aptitude install firefox04:44
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chaotic_thanks for the help sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:44
adenicioAdmiral_Chicago:i tink im on kubuntu 4.0504:45
chaotic_(sarcasm)04:45
nat1192that is really old then04:45
DragnslcrI don't think there ever was 4.0504:45
Disabled<chaotic_> google it04:45
Disabled:))04:45
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chaotic_what do u think i just did04:45
DragnslcrMost recent release is 7.0404:45
Disabled:)04:46
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adeniciooh sorry 7.0404:46
draikI'm on Zippy Zebra 50.06!04:46
runleveltenDon't download deb files for common apps!04:46
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K-Ryandraik: You're in June of 2050?04:47
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draikK-Ryan: Yes, yes I am04:47
Disabledyes, if there are in repos04:47
K-Ryan=)04:47
runleveltenadenicio: open "Add/Remove" from your menu and install from there :)04:47
k3Nthi folks -- having a bit of trouble with my screen res -- im stuck in 640x480 it looks like04:47
hamadooohi all .. how can i know about the ieee80211 version that im using now ???04:47
Disabledk3Nt you can change resolution from system / preferances / resolution04:48
runleveltenadenicio: choose it, check it, click apply. You don't need to hunt around online for Firefox - that's for legacy operating systems ;)04:48
k3NtDisabled: thanks04:48
hamadooohelp plz04:48
hamadooohi all .. how can i know about the ieee80211 version that im using now ???04:48
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chaotic_i like the system processes in the ubuntu thing04:49
Disabledhamadooo what is ieee80211 ?04:49
runleveltendraik: Tell John Titor I want my bloody IBM back.04:49
chaotic_for some reason kubuntu doesnt have it04:50
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hamadoooi don't i want to update my wireless driver it tells me i should do somethin with the ieee8021104:50
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Disabledhamadooo to know version ,try sudo aptitude show ieee80211 or aptitude info ieee8021104:52
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intelikeyfusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory04:58
intelikeyanyone have that device ?04:58
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intelikeyknee body ?04:59
intelikeydead channel !04:59
K-RyanI had something like that, don't remember what it was though04:59
K-RyanSorry =/05:00
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intelikeyK-Ryan not 'had'   have    do you 'have' that device ?05:00
jhutchinsfuse: Fairly Unstable Suspicious Experiment05:00
K-RyanI meant the error05:00
intelikeyi only want the device major and minor numbers05:01
intelikeyif anyone has the device they can   ls -l /dev/fuse05:01
jhutchinsFirst we're gonna move all the devices and daemons into userspace so users don't have to run as root, then we'll have to find a way to keep users from having access to them because they might as well be running as root.05:01
intelikeyjhutchins  heh yeah05:02
intelikeywell i don't run as root   i run as init   so i'm exempt05:02
intelikeyi also need to clean a keyboard...05:03
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draikDoes anyone know why I cannot access my SD card?05:05
draikXD works, but SD (adapter for micro SD)05:05
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draik*but NOT SD05:05
elite1_i didnt mount?05:06
elite1_it*05:06
draikNOpe05:06
adenicioTHERES IS NO FIREFOX IN APT-GET INSTALLER05:06
draikXD did, but SD just sits there with the light on05:06
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willydoes current superkaramba hogs cpu? kubuntu 7.0405:06
adeniciosomeone please send me firefox because konqueror is not workin :-(05:07
milesapt-get05:07
mileswhats wrong with u05:07
adeniciohien?05:07
draikadenicio: sudo apt-get install firefox05:07
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runleveltenWhy would anyone send you firefox? It's in the repos.05:08
elite1_how do i send firefox to you?05:08
runleveltenadenicio: You. Don't. Need. To. Hunt. Around. Online. For. Software. Dude.05:08
draikIf I send firefox to you, then I won't have it :P05:08
dr_willis0_o05:08
dr_williscould find the ftp site and grab it with wget.05:09
milesor kget05:09
milesive never used kget though05:09
runlevelten1. Open Synaptic Package manager. 2. Click Search. 3. Enter the word firefox into the search box.05:09
milesor05:09
elite1_lol dial-up do ppl still use that 56kbps lol05:10
runleveltendr_willis: and what happens when that person wants their next software? and the next one?05:10
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milesapt-get remove --purge konqueror && apt-get install konqueror05:10
dr_willisftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox05:10
runleveltenand then people will get annoyed, etc.05:10
dr_willisrunlevelten,  im guessing theres some reasonm he wants the .deb05:10
dr_willisno idea why however. :)05:10
runleveltenSetting the person up for a bad experience, tbh :(05:10
adeniciorunlevelten:i will love to hunt around but i cant surf i cant even see google,the thing keep saying cannot find host05:10
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adeniciodraik:lol just send me a deb file that will install perfectly05:11
dr_willisso you got a repo entry/server thats down?05:11
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hamadoooi want to delete some files ....... but it tells me that . Permission denied05:11
dr_willisarchive.ubuntu.com  - seems to be up.05:11
chaotic_perfect kubuntu is running perfect both hds on desktop running at 1280    by 102405:11
runleveltendr_willis: I'm thinking adenicio has no DNS servers set up05:11
hamadoooi tryed sudo05:11
milessudo05:11
runleveltenso stuff isn't working etc05:11
dr_willishamadooo,  use sudo to remove system type files.05:11
draikadenicio: Why. Do. You. Want. A. Deb. When. You. Have. It. In. The. Repos?05:11
hamadoooi can't it's i script05:12
chaotic_miracles google will do for  u05:12
hamadooo% cd ~/ieee80211-${VERSION}/05:12
hamadooo% . remove-old05:12
dr_willishamadooo,  you are confused or confusing us then. :)05:12
hamadoooi should do thia05:12
chaotic_type sudo -i05:12
hamadooothis05:12
draikelite1_: Any idea regarding the SD card?05:12
chaotic_u should have full root access after that05:12
dr_willisyou mean to RUN the remove-old script? use ./remove-old05:12
hamadooook05:12
dr_willisor sudo ./remove-old05:12
dr_willisYou still fighting with those wireless card drivers?05:13
hamadooolooooool yes05:13
runleveltenadenicio: what happens when you type ping google.com into a console?05:13
dr_willistime may be better spent learning the bash shell. :)05:13
runleveltenif that doesn't work, firefox ain't gonna help, because your networking isn't set up tight05:13
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adeniciodr_willis:its my 3rd time on the net on kubuntu but i cant surf they keep saying error cannot conect to host05:13
runleveltenadenicio: what happens when you type ping google.com into a console?05:14
runleveltenadenicio: what happens when you type ping google.com into a console?05:14
runleveltenoops, sorry05:14
dr_willisadenicio,  see if you can ping them.. see if you can ping other machines.. if its just your repository servers down.. change them to other servers05:14
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adeniciodraik:im not a pro on kubuntu i just find out how to conect on the internet with it.but the big prob is i cant surf05:15
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dr_willisadenicio,  this is what we are trying to help you do.. You can IRC. but not web surf eh?05:15
runleveltenalso, a quick cat /etc/resolv.conf will tell you whether he's got no dns setup05:15
draikadenicio: There have been NUMEROUS people here telling you what to do, yet you ignore them. Don't be surprised if you get ignored soon as well05:15
elite1DHCP????????05:15
thunderboltStupid ATI card, doesn't work with the GIMP 2.3... *sigh*05:16
elite1Something about host not being contacted?05:16
elite1see if its auto? maybe no?05:16
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adeniciorunlevelten:nothing happen05:16
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runleveltendid it just say it couldn't ping?05:16
runleveltenping: unknown host google.com05:17
hamadoooit tells me to use the remove script ... to remove the old driver in my computer .......... but there is no remove file in the new driver folder ??05:17
runleveltenadenicio: is that what it said?05:18
adeniciodraik:im not ignorin them wa they tell me to do i try i keep seing things hapenning then errors :-(05:18
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runleveltenadenicio: when people ask you to enter shell commands, they are trying to find out the problem for you05:18
runleveltenso you need to say what happens05:18
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adeniciounlevelten:i told u nothing happen now it say "unknown host google.com05:19
runleveltenthat's not nothing. That's it saying ping: unknown host google.com05:20
runleveltenthat's actually exactly what I wanted to know ;)05:20
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runleveltenOK, now do this: cat /etc/resolv.conf05:20
elite1how to i get youtube.com to work it says i need a newer flashplayer9 but they have no debian installs on there website adobe.com05:20
adenicioso wa im i sopose to do then05:20
adenicio?05:20
runleveltenadenicio: OK, now do this: cat /etc/resolv.conf05:20
runleveltenadenicio: then tell us exactly what it says05:21
adeniciook05:21
jhutchins_lt(We'll give him a bye on pastebin for now)05:21
elite1how much is a Nvidia 8900gtx CA$?05:22
jhutchins_ltelite1: http://pricewatch.com05:22
adeniciothen....?05:22
adenicionameserver 80.10.246.13405:22
adenicionameserver 80.10.246.705:22
adeniciodomain nicio05:22
adenicionameserver 80.10.246.134        #kppp temp entry05:22
adenicionameserver 80.10.246.7  #kppp temp entry05:22
milesadenicio loves spammin the channel05:22
elite1wow thoes are some pretty sweet graphics cards looking at them is like eletronic porn lmao!!!05:22
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adeniciothat wa it say05:22
mileslolz05:22
miles7900gt <---05:23
jhutchins_ltadenicio: Try pinging one of those addresses.05:23
elite1yeah my fav one but wow 8900!!!05:23
elite1dual !!!05:23
elite1thats like wow more cpu power and gpu power than my pc05:23
chaotic_whats the command for  extracting a tarball05:23
elite1and ram!!05:23
runleveltenadenicio: ping 80.10.246.13405:23
milesyea, its ridic05:23
adeniciorunlevelten:wat do i do next?05:23
elite1i can run kubuntu on a graphics card05:24
mileschaotic - "tar xfv <<tar ball name>>"05:24
elite1if i could install it on its 512Mb ram05:24
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milestar -xfv ************05:24
elite1or  256?05:24
adeniciomiles:hien?*05:24
mileshieneken?05:24
runleveltenadenicio: if it works and it comes up with lots of lines, just paste one05:24
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jhutchins_ltSaw an article somewhere today on the processing power of GPU's.05:25
adeniciojhutchins_lt:how?05:25
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elite1Nvidia prob makes the best grahics cards on the planet05:25
milesfor linux users yea05:25
intelikeyi don't know.  i made the device node and it still errors out    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3836105:25
runleveltenadenicio: I just told you how05:25
elite1i say a Gigabyte motherboad this guys had QUAD!!! Nvidia 7900!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:25
ice9can anybody spare some help with my 3d acceleration with ati radeon x1300? I've already broken my machine twice lol05:26
milesif it aint broke dont fix it05:26
elite14 nvidia's is like 12,000$05:26
intelikeyi thought it was just because i don't use udev   but that doesn't seem to be it....05:26
miles1,200 you mean?05:26
intelikeyanyone  think they can  help  ?       http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3836105:26
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elite1yeah05:26
elite1sorry05:26
jhutchins_ltice9: Have you been following a guide?05:26
ice9yes05:26
runleveltenRight, I have work in like 3 hours :\05:27
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elite1i have only 64mb card :(05:27
miles25605:27
elite1nice05:27
milesbut this machine was originally a windows gaming machine05:27
elite1i had a 2gig but i had to sell it to by my house05:27
jhutchins_ltintelikey: Um, urpmi?  Shouldn't we be in #mandriva?  urpmi --clean05:27
elite1lol05:27
adeniciorunlevelten:wen u tell me ping 80.10.... type that in the console?05:27
runleveltenyep05:27
ice9I followed the guide that had me edit xorg.conf and then I restarted, the gui wouldn't load05:28
elite1http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/calibre1_s.jpg  need i say anymore!!!05:28
intelikeyjhutchins it's a script05:28
runleveltenyou can just highlight it with the mouse, then use middle-click to paste it in a console by the way05:28
jhutchins_ltice9: Ok, from the console, try startx, and see if it has any intelligible errors.05:28
adeniciorunlevelten:only one line show05:28
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3836205:28
runleveltenwot is it?05:28
jhutchins_ltice9: Bad Device errors are from a stupid configuration mistake, there will be several.05:28
ice9xauth:  creating new authority file /home/ice9/.serverauth.590005:29
ice9X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.05:29
ice9Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console05:29
ice9sorry about spam05:29
chaotic_chaotic@chaotic-desktop:~/Desktop/Light_Metal_Tux_Theme/Icons$ sudo tar xfv Light_Metal_Tux_Theme /usr/share/icons/05:29
chaotic_Password:05:29
chaotic_tar: Light_Metal_Tux_Theme: Cannot open: No such file or directory05:29
chaotic_tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now05:29
chaotic_chaotic@chaotic-desktop:~/Desktop/Light_Metal_Tux_Theme/Icons$05:29
adeniciorunlevelten:PING 80.10.246.134 (80.10.246.134) 56(84) bytes of data.05:29
elite1who would need quad Nvidia's? ps3 emulation???05:29
chaotic_what should id o05:29
runleveltenthen it times out :S05:29
adeniciorunlevelten:hien?time out?05:30
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jhutchins_ltintelikey: Possibly the non-standard script has problems, but I would remove fuse-utils and any remenants thereof.  apt-get clean is probably better.05:30
runleveltenadenicio: ping security.ubuntu.com05:31
intelikeyPossibly the non-standard script ???   what non-standard script ?05:31
intelikeyjhutchins_lt ^05:31
runleveltenjust tell me the first line of output pls.05:31
runleveltenOh, and use pastebin05:31
runlevelten!pastebin | adenicio05:32
ubotuadenicio: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:32
elite1if i havent seen anything like this QUAD'D Cards http://images.tomshardware.com/2005/10/04/one_gigabyte_motherboard/platform-intro.jpg05:32
jhutchins_ltintelikey: your urpmi.05:32
jhutchins_ltrunlevelten: He's not getting out.05:32
adenicioIM LOST05:32
intelikeytty3 [greg$~]  pastebin `which urpmi`05:32
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3836305:32
runleveltenRight, I have to go to sleep very very soon.05:32
intelikeyjhutchins_lt ^   you think that apt-get is the problem  huh  ?05:33
jhutchins_ltice9: Ok, you have to run startx from one of the regular consoles.  When you said the gui wouldn't start, I assumed you meant you weren't running from the GUI.05:33
runleveltenjhutchins: swhat I'm thinking.05:33
intelikeywell i doubt it.    i think  that fuse-utils probably depends on something that is not listed in it's depends05:34
elite1can u put 2 graphics cards in your pc and have dual or do they have to be made for it??05:34
dr_williselite1,  you can. thats a harder way to do it however.05:34
ice9what do you mean regular consoles?05:34
dr_williselite1,  many nvidia cards now a days have 2 video outs on them allready. ;) makes it easy05:34
runleveltenDamn, it's 4:30 here, I'm probably not much use. adenicio, people have seen the convo05:34
elite1but say i put a nvidia and an ati will they work becuase only on will view the monitor05:34
elite1i mean to slit frame rates05:34
runleveltenSorry mate, but I have work, and I've hung on  as long as I can :(05:34
elite1split*05:34
elite1and share video ram05:35
dr_williselite1,  an nvidia + ATI - is the WORST way you can do that... :)05:35
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jhutchins_ltintelikey: Hey, you're the one with the problem, not me.  When I asked you about urpmi, you told me it was a script.  Perhaps you meant to say alias, I don't know, but in any case, use apg-get clean, purge the package, and try re-installing.05:35
elite1i know05:35
dr_willisi wouldent even attempt it. :)05:35
elite1but just example05:35
jhutchins_ltintelikey: Or not, I don't really care.05:35
dr_willisno idea what you mean by share video ram...05:35
elite1have to cards05:35
elite1in05:35
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elite1and then they will both add each other up so too 128mb cards i can get 256mb video ram to play a good game?05:36
intelikeyjhutchins_lt   yeah.     well thanks anyway for trying.05:36
dr_williselite1,  dual cards dont work that way..  they never have.05:36
adeniciorunlevelten:WEN WILL U BE BACK? and explaine more in detail as posible im new with linux05:36
elite1ohh05:36
elite1i thought they split the hardwork so there running the game at half speed on each card?05:37
dr_willisyou can drive 2 monitors.. thats it. basicially. you dont gain stuff - like you 'might' with SLI/Nvidia cards05:37
runleveltenadenicio: well I'll be at work in the morning, so I may be back on IRC in about 6 hours05:37
dr_willisthats what SLI is all about.05:37
elite1yeah sli thats what imean05:37
dr_williselite1,  You need specific cards for SLI. Not just any 2 cards05:37
elite1but i must have a SLI nvidia card in order to have daul/quad05:37
elite1yeah05:37
runleveltenI can't promise anything though. However, everyone here has seen your problem in progress. It looks like you're having weird connection issues. I'd suggest that simply installing firefox isn't likely to fix that05:38
elite1some pc's (in windows) you can change in the settings tab the card you want there will show to windows and u can click on wich to card to run the monitor off05:38
adenicioelite:how do u rite the person name withou tipin or pastin?05:38
runleveltenSomeone needs to help you distinguish betwen the different types of connection problem it could be, got that?05:39
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elite1adenicio,?05:39
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runleveltenAgain, sorry to run off and let you down - but I don't want to stuff up on RL, ya know05:39
runleveltennight all.05:39
elite1adenicio, you put , (comma) instead of :05:40
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dr_williselite1,  for dual head.. you DONT need sli cards05:40
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adenicioelite:do i have to rite hiw hold name?05:40
dr_williselite1,  to gain  performace with 2 cards.. for a game - they need tobe sli cards.05:40
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elite1i know but they must use that in windows because when u switch its not like the monitor cord is switching over to that card05:41
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elite1it swtiches to that card but uses the other ones monitor port its weird?05:41
dr_willisIt works just the same in windows..  You CAN drive 2 monitors with 2 sli cards.. but you lose the sli benifits I hgear.05:41
adenicioe>05:41
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elite1as if it was using 2 cards05:41
elite1without SLI05:41
adenicioelite>05:41
elite1no COMMA05:42
elite1yes05:42
elite1elite105:42
elite1then comma then type05:42
elite1i meant NO u need acomma up there^^^05:42
elite1sorry if it confused05:42
adenicio????05:42
elite1adenicio,05:42
chaotic_how do i extract a tar.gz to specific directory05:42
dr_williscd to the dir and extract it? :)05:43
dr_willisor cheat and use mc.. or unp.05:43
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elite1adenicio, type my name elite1, just like that with a comma at the end but it has to be the wright spelling of the nickname05:43
adenicioelite1: i find it it was shift i was lookin for05:43
elite1yeah or that05:43
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jhutchinsThere are rumors that the -C option, documented in man tar, causes tar to change to a directory before extracting a file.05:44
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ice9jhutchins, what did you mean by a normal console?05:45
jhutchinsice9: Not a console within X.05:45
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ice9how do I go about doing that?05:45
adenicioelite1: the answer i was looking for is : u type the first letter of the person name(ex:dopez,type d)then u press shift the u will get the list05:45
jhutchinsCtro-Alt-F[1-6] 05:45
chaotic_tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now05:45
chaotic_tar: Child returned status 205:45
chaotic_tar: icons: Not found in archive05:45
chaotic_tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors05:45
chaotic_what doe sthat mean05:46
dr_willissounds like you messed up the command.05:46
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dr_willisand told it to extract 'icons' that was not in the archive05:46
elite1ohh lol05:46
elite1d:05:46
elite1?05:46
chaotic_ tar xfv steelicons-default-1.2.5.tar.gz /usr/share/icons/05:46
jhutchinschaotic_: But I thought you said X wasn't working.05:46
chaotic_thats what i did seems correct05:47
jhutchinschaotic_: man tar.05:47
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adenicioelite1: wen u surf do u do www.google.com?05:47
dr_willischaotic_,  dident comeone mentioon the -C option?05:47
dr_willisyou just tole it to extract the  /usr/share/icons/   dir05:47
chaotic_-C whats that05:47
elite1that was rude!!!!!!!!!105:47
dr_willis<jhutchins> There are rumors that the -C option, documented in man tar, causes tar to change to a directory before extracting a file.05:47
elite1ctrl alt f1-605:47
elite1lol05:47
elite1so i tried it anyways05:47
chaotic_how do  i get it to extract there05:47
adenicioelite1: because im keep geting errors cannot conect to host05:47
jhutchinschaotic_: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_node/tar_9.html05:48
adenicioelite1: with konqueror05:48
chaotic_wont it be easier  to use the mv command05:48
elite1ohh well not sure? why it does that if u seem to connect to irc fine?05:48
chaotic_extract to desktop then mv05:48
jhutchinsadenicio: If you use normal spelling in tech support channels you'll be taken far more seriously.05:49
elite1what is Crtl Alt F1 for???05:49
chaotic_hey im technical support for sandisk05:49
elite1it takes me to a black screen and a login05:49
jhutchinschaotic_: Actually, the easiest way is to change to the directory, then extract the tar using it's full path.05:49
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chaotic_thats linux at its core05:49
dr_willischaotic_,  or use mc, or unp , then copy the things over.05:49
jhutchinschaotic_: Reading the man page and the tutorial will give you a lot more information though.05:49
dr_williselite1,  thats the CONSOLE05:49
ice9jhutchins it said it wasn't able to connect to X Server05:49
elite1ohh05:50
dr_willisF1 through F6 are the standard consoles. F7 is normally the X server05:50
chaotic_u just messed ur ur gui05:50
dr_willisthose console can save your backside at times. :)05:50
jhutchinsice9: Yeah, I've kinda lost track here, but start out trying to run only one copy of X.05:50
adeniciojhutchins: i dont understand im new to this kubuntu thing i not so long find how to connect to the net.now i cant surf05:50
elite1i couldnt exit it lol untill i hit something05:50
dr_willisYou did not MESS up anything  by going to them alt-ctrl-F7 to get back to X.05:50
chaotic_if startx doesnt work ur stuck05:50
jhutchinsice9: To shut down the current copy, sudo /etc/init.d/dm stop05:50
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elite1what me?05:50
jhutchinsice9: (might be kdm stop)05:50
elite1i typed in my user and pass05:51
elite1but it didnt exit me so i pressed seomthing and it went back05:51
jhutchinschaotic_: There's always plain X, but yeah, startx will usually run if anything will05:51
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elite1whats startX?05:51
dr_williselite1,  startx - starts a X session05:52
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jhutchinselite1: startx is a way of starting the xwindows system from a standard user console.05:52
ice9Alright, did that and startx, and here I am again05:52
elite1ohh ic05:52
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elite1so if i signed in under my user?05:52
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jhutchinselite1: It tests for some files and environment variables and will start your default desktop environment.05:52
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chaotic_back in the  day u had to type startx  to start up  the gui05:52
elite1okay so how do i exit that05:53
chaotic_it didnt boot str8 into it05:53
arunhow do i flush my dns cache?05:53
jhutchinselite1: as opposed to X, which will start X with no windowmanager and just whatever programs are in the ~/.xinitrc file.05:53
elite1the crtl alt f thing05:53
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chaotic_btw if anyone needs help with sandisk drives im tech support for sandisk05:53
jhutchinselite1: Your window session is console 7 by default, so Alt-F7.05:53
elite1so is there a purpose to doing that CTRL ALT F6?05:53
elite1what does it fix?05:54
chaotic_im like one  of the few that knows anything about linux05:54
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elite1i dont either im 1405:54
pauljwctrl-alt-f7 elite105:54
jhutchinschaotic_: How come you guys are the only ones where you can put the cap on the other end of the drive?  You guys patent that or somethnig?05:54
chaotic_someone asked  me what a rpm file was today  lol05:55
jhutchinselite1: You always have (by default) six terminal sessions running in Linux.  They're handy for fixing things.05:55
hitmanWillychaotic_, garbage :P05:55
jhutchinselite1: Most people don't use 'em for anything, but they're traditional.05:55
adenicioim going back on xp kubuntu killing me05:55
jhutchinselite1: You can reduce them by editing /etc/inittab, but it's not a good idea to kill all of them.05:55
chaotic_actually we have the cap  and have the ones u slide the usb connector into the drive05:55
elite1okay05:55
elite1know i understand05:55
elite1now*05:56
jhutchinsadenicio: It does require learning things that Windows will never let you know.05:56
jhutchinselite1: You can also run multiple X sessions.05:56
chaotic_but our best seller now is the u3 drives05:56
jhutchinselite1: The six consoles goes back to an early form of multitasking.05:56
elite1if u use windows and then switch to kubuntu like i did u have to forget almost everything from  windows taught you05:56
elite1yeah05:56
dr_williswindows teaches bad habbits.05:57
chaotic_u can load  any software with that drive  bypasses all network  security and untraceable05:57
elite1i was wondering why it was threw f1-6 diffrent users05:57
jhutchinschaotic_: Most other brands you've just got to find a place to put the cap ... and remember where you put it.05:57
pauljwthat's so true dr_willis05:57
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elite1what happens if su-crashes? will that fix it?05:57
dr_willisjhutchins,  i just throw the cap away  as aoon as i get it. :)05:57
jhutchinschaotic_: I wouldn't bet on that.05:57
adeniciojhutchins: no one can help me with my prob so i donr see why im killing my self with this.and im new whit this and people sayin things like i can do everyting they say05:57
ice9jhutchins, any other ideas?05:57
chaotic_im serious its so funny we use u3 drives05:58
jhutchinsdr_willis: Horrors!  Potentially contaminated connectors!  Cookie crumbs in the USB port!05:58
elite1i had sudo crashed even when i restarted anything that ran in sudo would not run so i counld not connect since im on wireless and askyou guys05:58
dr_willisadenicio,  one must learn to crawl befor they can walk, and walk befor they can run, and fall on their faces. :)05:58
dr_willisjhutchins,  toss them in the dishwasher.05:58
dr_willis:)05:58
chaotic_heh they cant stop us from using firefox or anything else we want its so funny05:58
jhutchinsadenicio: Several people have tried to help you, but it's difficult to get you to consistently follow the steps we give you, and you don't seem to have done much searching on google or reading documentation.05:58
chaotic_u cant install on the pcs at sandisk05:58
elite1what happens if sudo crashes and wont run at all even when the pc is restarted?05:58
dr_willischaotic_,  odd.. on the pcs at work.. they dont even show usb gizmos, and i cant even get to any drive letters.. at all..05:58
dr_willisthen again.. all i do at 'work' on the compouter is fill in the overtime in a browser window05:59
hitmanWillydr_willis, i bet they would if you rebooted with one in the drive :)05:59
elite1my nickname before was Elite untill my kubuntu crashed from a virus and i did a virus scan and found a trojan hoarse in my java05:59
jhutchinshitmanWilly: I can lock you out of that if I'm your sysadmin.06:00
chaotic_funny 5think about sandisk i wouldnt thing theres  any wait times since i only get a call every 45 min06:00
dr_willishitmanWilly,  im not even sure of that. may try tomorrow06:00
jhutchinshitmanWilly: I disable USB boot in the BIOS, which is password protected.06:00
elite1wow06:00
elite1usb boot?06:00
adeniciojhutchins: trus me i look up on xp on google the prob i had no explaination.and my prob is i cant surf or conect to wat so ever.the onlything i got true to connect is this chat06:00
elite1thats sweet06:00
hitmanWillyjhutchins, i was just about to say the bios pass thing :)06:00
chaotic_most comnpanies dont go that deep06:00
jhutchinsAny admin who doesn't do that is pretty much an idiot.06:00
elite1kubuntu off a pendrive!!!06:00
elite1my nickname before was Elite untill my kubuntu crashed from a virus and i did a virus scan and found a trojan hoarse in my java06:00
chaotic_dude imagine being in highschool with one of those usb drives06:01
dr_williselite1,  live cd's are handy also,06:01
jhutchinsadenicio: Really, you can chat but you can't ping or surf?  That's wierd.06:01
sundarhey does anyone know why I can see wireless networks but not connect to them?06:01
chaotic_the u3s06:01
elite1lol i am in highschool?06:01
elite1why u say that?06:01
elite1i know06:01
chaotic_shit u can run anything of it06:01
dr_willisjhutchins,  ive seen that several times in here people with identical issue. ONCE it was a firefox plugin issue..06:01
chaotic_kiddie scripts06:01
chaotic_scanners06:01
chaotic_ for irc06:01
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jhutchinschaotic_: I've got a friend who's the sysadmin for a local school system.  Believe me, if you tried that on his network he would 0wn your backside.06:02
elite1i put linux on my psp (memstick) its a 4gig and it boot fine of the librarys computer wich there was no point read and writing to the memstick is like 8mb/s06:02
chaotic_ii want ur friend  to try06:02
elite1but hey it worked06:02
jhutchinsdr_willis: Yeah, I've seen it before too.06:02
adeniciojhutchins: when u say ping wat do u mean?the persone that tell ping it i didnt understand wa he mean by ping it.he said ping the adres i tink but i dont understand06:02
chaotic_my friennd is a system admin06:02
jhutchinsdr_willis: Thing is, you expect the console stuff to work if anything works.06:02
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chaotic_ and i put his job to the test06:03
sundarthis is getting so frustrating, I can see my own home router, but not connect though it!!06:03
chaotic_ guess who won06:03
dr_willisjhutchins,  yea.. ive seen this same 'issue' sevveral times now in here.. never seen a definitive fix.06:03
elite1how come the Qpartiton in ubuntu os's dont show that feature when installed only on the live cd?06:03
dr_willisjhutchins,  cant even find a good forum post on it.06:03
jhutchinsadenicio: iirc you tried to ping a numerical address and it didn't reply.06:03
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dr_williselite1,  huh? You mean Qtparted?06:03
elite1yeah06:03
elite1is it still on the system?06:03
dr_williswhat features are you refering to? you  can install it if you want.06:04
elite1i would really like to use that program06:04
jhutchinsadenicio: Try ping 130.57.5.7006:04
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elite1off the live cd?06:04
dr_williselite1,  but you dont normally run it on a 'running' system.06:04
elite1i know06:04
dr_willisuse the package manager, se4arch/isntall it.06:04
elite1well slave HDD06:04
elite1i was afraid of that06:04
jhutchinsfdisk has always been good enough for me.06:04
elite1i dont have multi universe i have to use linux more to be an avid user on how to do stuff on it06:05
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chaotic_the thing i dont if u3 is compatible with linux06:05
elite1then i will make my own linux software cald Elite XP and make millions06:05
adeniciojhutchins: a bunch of lines showing up06:05
chaotic_its iffy about linux06:05
chaotic_sometimes it does06:05
dr_willisdont have 'multi universe' ? huh?06:05
chaotic_sometimes it dont\06:05
elite1yeah enable in edept06:05
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dr_williselite1,  then enable them06:05
elite1i am using kubuntu but i think its the one no one uses lol06:06
chovywhy is my fonts ugly?06:06
Pharohmy u3 drive never works in kubuntu06:06
chovythey are too wide06:06
dr_williswide screen lcd?06:06
elite1Kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS KDE06:06
chaotic_cool thing about sandisk today they gave 14  tickets away for  rage against the machine06:06
elite1lol06:06
dr_williselite1,  that versionis a bit old :)06:06
elite1killing in the name of06:06
chaotic_to the people that worked there06:06
elite1yes06:06
elite1u see my point i have ubuntu 6.1006:07
jhutchinsadenicio: Hey!06:07
chovydr_willis: yes06:07
elite1but kubuntu doesnt have that06:07
jhutchinsadenicio: That's good!06:07
chaotic_i wasnt really intrested  so i didnt put my name in06:07
elite1im not even at 7.10 yet06:07
jhutchinsadenicio: Ctrl-C to kill that.06:07
elite1im running dos here06:07
jhutchinsadenicio: Now try ping novell.com06:07
dr_willisCP/M06:07
elite1sweet its 00:07 !!06:07
elite17mins  into saturday06:08
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adeniciojhutchins: samething a lot of lines06:08
jhutchinschaotic_: This system hasn't booted to Windows for about five years, not since my last hardware upgrade.06:08
jhutchinsMy last bootable windows machine died earlier this year, and i haven't missed it.06:08
jhutchinsI've been running in Linux exclusively for five years now.06:09
adeniciojhutchins: now wat do i do?06:09
elite1hahha i had linux since i was 506:09
elite1thats 7years06:09
elite1beat that06:09
jhutchinsYay!  Your network is working!06:09
jhutchinsadenicio: Yay!  Your network is working!06:09
dr_willisI have underware older then you..  and pc's MUCH older then you06:09
elite1i mean wait 9 years06:09
elite1i know06:09
adenicioi had linux since i was 22 thats 5months lol06:10
jhutchinsNow alt-f2, google.com06:10
elite1im only 14 im the youngest kid with the oldest os06:10
MaTiAzI'm 15 :P06:10
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elite1kubuntu 6.06.1LTS KDE06:10
jhutchinsOn the other hand, I've been a professional linux administrator for ~10 years now, and have been running it since RH2.1.06:10
Pharohwell technically linux isnt the oldest os06:10
chaotic_gunzip: stdin:  not in  gzip  format06:10
chaotic_whats that mean06:11
MaTiAzMy first touch with Linux when I was like 10 or 11, I got some old computer from my neighbor along with Suse 9.x installation CD's :D06:11
jhutchinsadenicio: Now alt-f2, google.com06:11
chaotic_its a tar.gz06:11
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CPrgmSwR2Hi06:11
CPrgmSwR2Has anyone looked at kde4?06:11
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jhutchinsPharoh: My first was APL on a system 360, but I have played Gravity Wars on a PDP1; loaded from paper tape and played with toggle switches.06:12
evjunior09Hey everyone, okay quick question...how do i open a .zip file?06:12
dr_willisunzip foo.zip06:12
dr_willisor use mc, or unp, or....06:12
adeniciojhutchins: it doesnt work.this is the messege i get:06:12
adenicioAn error occurred while loading http://www.google.com/search?q=yt&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8:06:12
adenicioCould not connect to host http://www.google.com/search?q=yt&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8.06:12
dr_williscan konqueror open them? ark can.06:12
jhutchinsevjunior09: Should be able to double-click it with kubuntu (you should have ark installed), but there's also unzip.06:12
Pharohnow thats some bragging rights!06:12
elite1everyone here is basically a computer geek lol well even me06:12
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jhutchinsadenicio: Very interesting.06:13
evjunior09jhutchins: okay so if i just doulbe click it, its open than?06:13
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jhutchinsadenicio: And you are able to chat here.06:13
evjunior09like....i dont have to unzip?06:13
jhutchinsadenicio: Proxy.06:13
arunhow do i flush my dns cache?06:13
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jhutchinsadenicio: What kind of a network are you connecting through?06:13
adeniciojhutchins: dont know nada about proxy06:13
adeniciojhutchins: dial up06:14
adeniciono dsl06:14
jhutchinsadenicio: Either your network has a proxy server which must be set for browsing, or you have accidentally set your proxy server and shouldn't have.06:14
jhutchinsadenicio: With a proxy server, instead of connecting directly to the network, you connect to a local server which then connects to the web for you.06:14
jhutchinsadenicio: This allows it to reduce bandwidth usage by storing frequently visited pages, and also to control and track what sites you can reach.06:15
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jhutchinsdr_willis: Come to think of it, it was dial-up before, and I think it was something to do with proxy settings.06:15
adeniciojhutchins: i instal kubuntu wen i first saw this prob i tawt i played with it to much so i uninstall reinstall conect direct and it still show me this06:15
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hitmanWillyadenicio, also, for privacy concerns06:16
jhutchins!hi | z06:16
ubotuz: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:16
zanyone notice the glich with kdm?06:16
zwhere the cursor changes06:16
hitmanWillyz, nope, don't use it :P06:16
jhutchinsz: There are many possible answers to that, probably best if you describe yours.06:16
adeniciojhutchins: hitmanWilly:ok so how do i change this?06:16
zuh.. i installed a bunch of cursor themes from the repos06:17
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jhutchinsIs there a global proxy setting in kubuntu?06:17
jhutchinsadenicio: Do you have dual-boot?06:17
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hitmanWillyjhutchins, not that im aware of06:17
zand when i opened kdm06:17
adeniciojhutchins: yeap06:17
zit used one of the cursors that i had installed06:17
hitmanWillyunless its set in $PROXY or something06:17
jhutchinsadenicio: I would boot to Windows and check for network settings/proxy servers in the windows network settings and in the IE network settings.06:18
dr_willisz,  the artwiz one i belive...06:18
zwhat do you mean?06:18
jhutchinsadenicio: If it has a proxy server listed there, copy that information down and we can help you set it up.06:18
dr_willis!info artwiz06:18
ubotuPackage artwiz does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:18
dr_willis!find artwiz06:18
adeniciojhutchins: why?do it afect linux?06:18
ubotuFound: artwiz-cursor, xfonts-artwiz06:18
jhutchins(Though not me, I have a horse show in the morning and should have gone to bed an hour ago.)06:18
dr_willis!info artwiz-cursor06:18
ubotuartwiz-cursor: artwiz futuristic mouse cursor for x11. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.3-5 (feisty), package size 8 kB, installed size 72 kB06:18
adeniciojhutchins: ok06:18
chovyhow do i detect which graphics card i have?06:18
jhutchinsadenicio: Yes, if your ISP has a proxy server you should use it.06:18
jhutchinschovy: in console, sudo lspci06:19
zhow does the artwiz-cursor help?06:19
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dr_willisz,   it used the artwiz one on kdm by default.06:19
dr_willisor so ive seen.06:19
adeniciojhutchins: but where do i see my proxy on xp?by typin ipconfig/all?06:19
virajcould anybody show me how to install smb4k? i don't know how to deal with tar packages06:20
dr_willissudo apt-get install smb4k06:20
dr_willisthen you need to fix the 'suid' bits on the programs it calls. , may be some other way to make it actually work.06:20
adenicioviraj: me 2 tar and rpm06:20
dr_willisIve been using the fuse-smb stuff instead of smb4k lately06:21
zare you sure we are talking about the same cursors? i am refering to the mouse cursor06:21
viraji didn't get that06:21
chovyATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71c706:21
dr_willisz,  yes.. artwiz is a mouse cursor. for the 'default X' stuff.. kde can have its own cursor packages as well.. gnome can also have its own cursor packages as well.06:21
adeniciodr_willis: if we rite sudo apt-get ****.tar it will look for the file on the pc?06:21
dr_willisadenicio,  i never said anything about TAR's06:21
zah, thanks06:21
zbut how can i control what cursor is displayed?06:22
dr_willis!info smb4k06:22
ubotusmb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-1build1 (feisty), package size 1762 kB, installed size 3756 kB06:22
dr_willisz,  the users can select what one they want in their KDE settings06:22
zfor kdm?06:22
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adeniciodr_willis: how do u install a tar folder then?i know for a deb someone told me to right click on it a shoos install06:23
virajok... it worked.... but can't see my windows shares on it06:23
dr_willisadenicio,  totally depends on what you are installing.06:23
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adenicioso wa is the comand to install a tar or bz2 if its on your desktop?06:24
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dr_willisadenicio,  you dont normally 'install' a tar or bz2. you uncomoress them THEN do whatever is needed to install their contents.06:25
thunderboltadenicio: Just use klik or autopackage if it isn't in the Ubuntu repositories.06:25
hitmanWillyadenicio, that depends on what type of program it is, tar or tar.bz2 or tar.gz is like a zip file06:25
dr_willistheres a dozen diofferent + ways to 'install' those kind of things06:25
znot to mention, you usually have to install build-essentials06:26
thunderboltAt least a dozen.06:26
zdr_willis, did you reply to my question about how to control kdm's cursor?06:26
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dr_willisz,  thats showing the default X system cursor. which you just told to to use 'artwiz' - Not sure how to tell it to use the other KDE curors. i dont worry about it much. since the users can pickj their own.06:27
zalright then thanks for the help06:27
hitmanWillyz, probably an option in kcontrol somewhere06:27
zhitmanWilly, i tried to run kcontrol as root and select a cursor that way06:28
zbut to no avail06:28
Pharohhey i have a question about adept installer, why does it sometimes say that another program has locked the database? even if another is not open06:28
hitmanWillyhmm, not sure then, i use a text mode login myself06:28
dr_willisthat would set the root users personal cursor would be my guess.. not kdms06:28
zyah that's waht happened06:28
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chaotic_dude i just redid my kicker interface06:29
chaotic_man it looks awesome06:29
zi haven't found any solution on google either06:29
dr_willisartwiz i think sets the default X cursor , so if you dont run KDE at all. (like fluxbox instead) it will use the artwiz cursor also.06:29
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zyes, i noticed that, -is a fluxbox junkie-06:29
zbut in fluxbox, you can change the curser06:29
zi just haven't found out how......;;06:29
dr_willistheres 2 different kinds of cursors.. the system/X cursors.. and then KDE/gnomes own06:30
zi see06:30
virajcan't see my windows 2k shares on smb4k06:30
zkubuntu 7.04 + fluxbox 1.0rc3 = love06:31
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dr_willisviraj,  smb4k has some different scanning options.06:34
dr_willisalso you may wan tto be sure w2k isent firewalled, or blocked. and does have some shares06:34
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elite1_hey06:38
elite1_my internet is acting up again06:38
dr_willisOh.06:39
elite1_is there an option in ubuntu where it says let computer deciede to turn of this device to save power06:39
elite1_kubuntu*06:39
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viraji can see the w2k comp on smb4k but i can't get the list of shares06:40
dr_willistheres some laptop modes that kick in some powier savings06:40
dr_willisviraj,   i always make linux users and windows with same username and passwords.06:41
MaTiAzHas anyone installed Kubuntu on a PS3?06:41
dr_willisviraj,  you can tell smb4k what username/pass to send also. I belive06:41
elite1_you use yellow dog and can run and os using a bootloader forps306:42
elite1_would  not suggest it since its running 3os's the ps3's/yellowdog/ubuntu or w.e os u choice to install06:42
elite1_like windows06:43
elite1_but u will just get a virus06:43
MaTiAzelite1_: I know, but I asked specifically about Kubuntu06:43
elite1_im not sure maybe06:43
elite1_u can on xbox06:43
MaTiAzXbox 360 beats PS3 by 2x in general computing performance06:43
elite1_yeah rite and then you woke up lol06:44
MaTiAzumm nope06:44
elite1_lol it beats it in heat maybe06:44
MaTiAzA respected PSP hacker benchmarked both06:44
elite1_or the warping disks or wait06:44
MaTiAzCell is suitable for mostly only vector and heavy float-point math06:44
elite1_should i say the 1.3 xbox ratio of getting the ring of death?06:44
elite1_1:3*06:45
elite1_lol06:45
MaTiAzMine haven't fucked up06:45
MaTiAzBut the fact is that Xbox 360 is better than PS3 for Linux usage :p06:45
elite1_doesnt matter ps3 kicks xbox's ass. xbox woudnlt be so big if it werent for halo06:45
MaTiAzhaha, doesn't seem to be the case on PS306:45
MaTiAzPS2 rocked06:46
elite1_halo was originally going for ps2 but then microsoft bought bungie.net06:46
MaTiAzuhm, PC only06:46
MaTiAz-_-06:46
elite1_what?06:46
MaTiAzIt wasn't going to be ported to PS206:46
MaTiAzSony started acting big with PS3, and here's the result06:46
elite1_ported? lol programed06:47
elite1_no need for big words06:47
elite1_esp wrong ones06:47
MaTiAzBelieve me, it was supposed to be for PC only06:47
MaTiAzelite1_: Exclusives escaping from PS3, it isn't selling well and Sony PR guys make themselves look like total retards06:47
elite1_sony kicks all ass06:47
MaTiAzhahaha06:47
MaTiAzno.06:47
elite1_on so manylevels06:47
elite1_portable 333Mhz psp!!06:47
MaTiAzelite1_: Well tell me why there are only 2 games worth buying for the PS3, and why has it sold so badly?06:48
MaTiAzPSP is awesome, I have one but the games aren't so good06:48
dr_willis$600 price tag is one reason.. :)06:48
MaTiAzI use mine mostly for homebrew06:48
MaTiAzdr_willis: Yeah06:48
dr_willisPSP could of been so MUCH better.06:48
elite1_yeah i gues those dam retards at sony STOP MAKING REAL LIFE GRAPHICS YOU IBM LOADED PS3!!!06:48
dr_willisi gave mine to my brother . and got a gp2x06:48
elite1_lol 120 just came out at E306:48
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elite1_499?06:48
elite1_for 60gig06:49
MaTiAzelite1_: Not06:49
elite1_you are missing info u know06:49
MaTiAzNot in Europe06:49
chovyman, that monitor detection sucks06:49
elite1_E3 did u check it out or stayed in the closet and then came out ...06:49
MaTiAzelite1_: For America only06:49
MaTiAzSony keeps saying that Europe is their most important market, yet they keep fucking around with as06:49
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elite1_us or as?06:49
dr_williswhere did sony even GET 20gb or was it 40? gb sata drives...06:49
dr_willis:)06:50
MaTiAzoops, us06:50
MaTiAzThey said that they won't drop the PS3 price in Europe because it'd make many gamers angry06:50
elite1_they have 80gig not06:50
elite1_now*06:50
MaTiAzWell, the bottom line is that 360 rocks the PS3 (PS3 could've just been so much better if Sony didn't decide to screw it all up), at least for now06:51
elite1_xbox are so faulty the chances of owning one for a year are not very good (with no nykon cooler either!!) all stock06:51
elite1_lol06:51
MaTiAzelite1_: Tell me why my 360 has been working totally fine since launch?06:51
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MaTiAzWith active playing06:51
elite1_u see the grapghics PAUL MOORE xbox360 head said him self (now working for EA) xbox counld not handle Killzone 2 graphics06:52
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elite1_LMAOLMAOLMAOMALMAOMALMAO06:52
elite1_are u dunmb06:52
MaTiAzwhat?06:52
elite1_lol06:52
elite1_working fine since the launch06:52
elite1_HAHAHAH06:52
elite1_ask any one06:52
MaTiAzelite1_: Come here and check it06:52
elite1_lmao06:52
elite1_u lost that battle so bad they had to change warrantys06:52
dr_willisgames are for the weak.06:52
elite1_hahahah06:52
elite1_lmao06:52
elite1_thats funny06:52
MaTiAzelite1_: No, for the bored ones06:52
dr_willisNight all.. have fun06:53
elite1_lmao06:53
MaTiAzmeh06:53
elite1_1;3 ratio of the ring of death overheating (some say cpu i didnt know 33mhz can overeheat?)06:53
MaTiAzAnyway, come here and check out my 360, it has never been replaced06:53
elite1_or either played?06:53
MaTiAz-_-06:53
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elite1_becuase the 3ring of death06:54
MaTiAzYes, actively06:54
MaTiAzI haven't ever experienced it06:54
MaTiAzNever.06:54
elite1_lol they where fine during the launch that was funny06:54
MaTiAzAlthough the problem sucks totally, just because they made a crappy heatsink design06:54
elite1_No balls....Xbox 360 all thou i do play halo and own at it (halo2*)06:55
elite1_lol heatsink desing talk about drunk workers with to much heatsink paste!!06:55
MaTiAzelite1_: No, if the heatsink would be held in place with other means, it wouldn't bend the PCB and break some connections with the chips06:55
elite1_360 sucks06:55
elite1_yeah06:56
MaTiAzelite1_: You really can't say that PS3 is doing well06:56
elite1_thats howmuch heat it produces they tried to overclock that poor xbox!! when will they ever learn06:56
elite1_not saying am i?06:56
MaTiAznope, but you shouldn't say it anyway06:57
elite1_lol06:57
MaTiAzMan, I'd probably have a PS3 if they didn't use it as a trojan horse for blu-ray06:57
MaTiAzIt'd be so much cheaper06:57
MaTiAzAnd most likely more succesful06:57
elite1_xbox has been out for a year all thous flaws everyone shot down that console now the ps3 has only been out for months now we wait a year we will see a better games/apps/and everything else tocome06:57
MaTiAzYeah, but I'm talking about the current situation06:58
arunhow do i flush my dns cache?06:58
elite1_lol 2;1 ratio for HD verse BLURAY06:58
elite1_blu ray players are 1,000$06:58
arunharry potter and the deathly hallows comes out today06:58
arunyay06:58
MaTiAz:)06:58
elite1_ps3 499/599 60/80gig06:58
MaTiAzFunny how EVERY PS3 owner/fanboy says that PS3 will get better in the future06:58
elite1_and he dies06:58
elite1_harry potter and ronald06:59
virajcould anybody help me with smb4k?06:59
elite1_i downloaded the book06:59
MaTiAzelite1_: thanks for spoiling -_-06:59
draikLights are on but nobody's home. I still can't access my SD card. Anyone have any idea?06:59
elite1_lol funny how xbox owners think that xbox did good in hardware!!06:59
viraji've mounted my windows drives..... but i can't open them and acess the files06:59
elite1_xbox has good software just the hardware sucks06:59
MaTiAzelite1_: But anyway, let's stop this battle now that people have some questions again, so we don't flood the channel with useless stuff, ok?06:59
elite1_okay lol06:59
elite1_good debate thou07:00
MaTiAzWe can continue in #kubuntu-offtopic :)07:00
elite1_already there07:00
virajcould anyone tell me the prob?07:00
viraji can even mount my windows drives on smb4k but i can't acess the files on it07:01
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mileshi07:04
chaotic_after i install a theme  do i have to keep it on pc or can i delete07:04
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virajhow do i acess the files on the windows drives i have mounted thru smb4k?07:15
chaotic_i  found out whats the attraction to linux kno matter what u accomplish u always wanna customize it even more07:18
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herochaotic_: that's because the configuring NEVER STOPS!07:21
chaotic_i know07:22
herospeaking of07:22
heroi reinstalled kdebase (don't ask why)07:22
heroand now, all these ad popup things come up in konqueror07:23
heroand they never did before07:23
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chaotic_most of thge time u have to configure something because u  broke it configuring something else07:24
chaotic_which i find pretty funny07:24
heroi don't07:25
herothat's the part of linux that sucks07:25
MaTiAzyeah07:25
heroand this is where someone will complain that we're off topic and to go somewhere else07:25
MaTiAzBut as I've now got everything I need for now, I don't need to configure07:25
heroand they'll probably use the bot instead of just telling us07:26
hero!botsnack07:26
chaotic_finally took off root passwords07:26
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!07:26
chaotic_now i dont have to type it in anymore07:26
chaotic_hey how do  u install .py files07:27
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hero!python07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
MaTiAzchaotic_: You run them, they're python code07:27
hero!py07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about py - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
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chaotic_when i click it kate comes up07:28
MaTiAzchaotic_: try python <file.py> in terminal07:28
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chaotic_yeah i tried that07:29
chaotic_remembered of perl07:29
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modjo!konsole07:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:39
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modjo!sudo07:39
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:39
ardchoille!kdesu07:39
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo07:39
elite1any one know any other IRC channels07:39
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elite1for anything cool07:39
chaotic_installing beryl on 256mb is that wise07:40
elite1any one know a ps3 channel?07:40
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kaellanhi07:42
titanix88kallen hi07:43
chaotic_i got beryl installed how do i go out into cube07:43
kaellanemm, im looking for the swedish irc room atm ^07:43
MaTiAzchaotic_: ctrl+alt+mouse drag was the default IIRC07:43
MaTiAzAnd you have to have desktop cube enabled07:44
titanix88try the settings.07:44
kaellanemm, how to instal nvidia drivers ?07:44
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kaellanor .. i haw figured out how to instal vlc so far only :P07:45
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kaellanubuntu-se07:47
kaellanopps xD07:47
|Karti|Hi all, can anyone recommend a VMWare clone for Kubuntu as  need to use some software through Win XP?07:48
ardchoille!nvidia | kaellan07:48
ubotukaellan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:48
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|Karti|Also if you know a way to find out what memory type you have without taking the case off the machine.....would be great!07:48
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rhombusI cannot install kubuntu 7.04 on a Dell Poweredge 185007:50
rhombusit doesn't get past the initramfs07:51
c00kiemonsterdual core xeons heh07:51
rhombusYeah!07:51
c00kiemonsterthats quite a monster you have there07:51
rhombusIs that the problem?07:51
c00kiemonster:D07:51
c00kiemonsterI'd be surprised.07:52
c00kiemonsterwhats the chipset on that thing?07:52
rhombusThe reason I'm installing a desktop OS on it is because it's supposed to be an LTSP server07:52
rhombusI don't know... Serverworks? Intel?07:52
c00kiemonsterhmmm07:53
rhombusI can install ubuntu server LTS 6.06 on it, though -- and it detects the RAID just fine07:53
rhombusso there has to be an answer07:53
rhombusthe trouble is that I don't get any meaningful error messages07:53
c00kiemonsteryeah if it stops at the initramfs07:54
c00kiemonsterits not very verbose07:54
hayden_anyone know why when I receive a file in kopete it stalls at 100%07:54
rhombusso -- help me understand the process -- the initrd contains the kernel and modules necessary to... run init?07:54
c00kiemonsterso 6.06 runs OK in console-mode... but 7.04 doesnt even boot07:54
rhombusc00kiemonster07:55
rhombusyes07:55
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c00kiemonsterwow, cant seem to find anything related to the 1850 and 7.0407:57
rhombusyeah, it's puzzling07:58
rhombusand I even updated the PERC firmware -- a new one was issued just three days ago07:58
c00kiemonstermaybe that sounds stupid, but have you verified that CD's MD5 ?07:58
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rhombushmn -- no. How can I do that?07:58
c00kiemonstermd5sum file.iso07:59
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c00kiemonsterthat will give you a bunch of numbers and letters, that's the MD5 hash of that file07:59
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c00kiemonsterthen you compare it to kubuntu's md5 on the web07:59
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c00kiemonsterif they differ, the iso is corrupt.08:00
rhombusokay, i'll try it -- I can just get the md5 from k3b :P08:00
c00kiemonsteryeah, exactly.08:01
rhombusuhhhh.... guess what I just noticed?08:03
c00kiemonster?08:03
rhombus"The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Kubuntu. It provides for the following situations:"08:03
rhombus"LVM and/or RAID partitioning;"08:03
rhombusI'm using the standard-issue desktop version08:04
c00kiemonsteryeah actually, the alternate CD is the only way to install on LVM or RAID.08:04
rhombusperhaps I should try the alternate :)08:04
c00kiemonsterWell if that option is important to you, why not. That's what I've used also08:04
rhombuswell, I'm thinking that it's necessary08:05
rhombusor it won't detect the controller properly -- anyway, it can't hurt, I'll try it08:05
c00kiemonsterdoesnt the 1850 have an onboard megaraid controller?08:05
rhombus(the md5 sums match)08:05
rhombusyes08:06
c00kiemonsterokay08:06
rhombusit does08:06
rhombuswell, it detects it... but hell, who knows?08:06
c00kiemonstershould be detected by the desktop iso, tough..08:06
c00kiemonsteranyways, the alternate CD is not a bad idea at all08:06
rhombusI can't understand why it would just die after the initrd is loaded08:06
rhombusI'll give it a try.08:06
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c00kiemonsterthe initrd usually contains the loadable modules... maybe one piece of hardware is unsupported and the module still tries to make it work.08:08
c00kiemonsterthats just a supposition, since it happened to me with a network controller back in the beginnings of PCI-E08:08
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intelikeyhowto use "keys" to login in ssh without password ?08:23
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Lynoureintelikey: here is a howto: http://www.linuxproblem.org/art_9.html08:24
Lynoureintelikey: I haven't tested this particular howto, but it looks right08:25
intelikeythank you.08:25
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chovykde-guidance crashes on me, even after re-installing08:27
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Mo0oSaHhello everyone!08:32
kaellanhi mr president :)08:33
intelikeyLynoure any clue if that will continue to work after the user changes their passowrd ?08:33
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intelikeyah it does hold...    hmmmm very insecure  imo08:36
intelikeya user can lock the passwd and you can still login with the ssh key08:36
intelikeykind of a crackers wet dream this ssh keys, don't ya think08:37
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zenumhey, i have an nvidia 8600 and i've been told that the ubuntu repos doesn't have the latest nvidia drivers which support it. I was wondering if there is a recomended way of getting nvidia restricted drivers other then through the ubuntu repos?08:43
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zenumi had a look at envy however when i ctrl+alt+backspaced it never came back up, and i couldnt restart as I was using the live cd. I'm still waiting on a HDD so that i can do a proper hdd install, would i need to actually restart for it to take effect?08:44
stdinzenum: you can download it from the nvidia website and compile it, tho you'll have to recompile it everytime the kernel is updated08:44
zenumwill the ubuntu repos eventually have the latest version?08:44
stdinzenum: and you would need to restart08:44
stdinand yes, they will :p08:44
stdinprobably in gutsy tho08:45
zenumahh okaiz :) so i could install it from their website now and then hopefully by the time the kernel is next updated i can use the repos...08:45
zenumi'm sure i'll have no problem moving to gutsy as soon as its released :)08:46
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stdinzenum: dose it not work with the default driver at all?08:46
stdinor just not 3D?08:46
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zenumjust the 3d doesn't work, i'm getting 230fps with glxgears08:47
zenumi'm very much hopeing i can get it all to work as that is the reason i bought a decent graphics card :p08:48
stdinI'm not sure exactly how the live CD works tho, I think if you restart X then it reboots08:48
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stdinand 3D actually works great on my intel945  GPU :D08:49
ice9Hello friends! I need some help getting 3d acceleration going on my machine08:50
stdinwoah, it works better that I thought 6548 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1309.511 FPS08:50
ice9took me all day but I got the fglrx drivers working08:50
stdinice9: what card?08:50
ice9ati radeon x130008:50
stdineww :p08:50
ice9it was good for windows :(08:51
ice9lol08:51
stdinubotu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:51
stdinoops08:51
stdinice9:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:51
ice9I know I know, I've read every one of those lol08:51
stdinice9: that's a guild08:51
stdinice9: and the problem is?08:51
ice9well most the guides talking about using the ati setting, but thats for a different chipset than mine, I have to use the fglrx08:52
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stdinice9: that guide tells you how to install fglrx08:52
ice9well, maybe 7th times the charm! lol08:53
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ice9on that guide, when it says to make sure its not disabled to run kdesu kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common08:54
ice9X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16908:54
ice9  Major opcode:  14908:54
ice9  Minor opcode:  308:54
ice9  Resource id:  0x008:54
ice9Failed to open device08:54
ice9sorry about the spam08:54
stdin!baddevice08:55
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors08:55
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stdinyou can just ignore it tho08:55
stdinice9: mostly you just do "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx ; sudo depmod -a ; sudo aticonfig --initial ; sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv"08:56
stdinice9: then disable the composit extention08:57
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abhijit__hey do i need to reinstall ubuntu after changing my motherboard and processor09:14
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pagabhijit__, you can try booting up without reinstall - it might work.09:15
abhijit__ya i should try tat .cause reinstalling is a pain in the ass09:16
stdinabhijit__: it shouldn't be a problem, at all09:17
abhijit__r u sure?09:18
stdinyeah09:18
stdinyou could take the HDD out of one system and plug it in to another and totally expect it to work :)09:18
abhijit__i was thinkin of changing my mboard frm 915 to 965 and a dual core processor09:18
stdinlinux would just see the new hardware and work09:19
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abhijit__ok thanks ,u just made my worries dissapear09:19
stdinit does all the hardware detection at boot anyway09:19
stdinlinux is much smarter than windows :p09:20
abhijit__yea i m quite sure abt dat09:20
chovyhow do i reset my screen size manually ? kde-guidance is crashing on me.09:21
stdinchovy: those settings are in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:21
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chovystdin: but i adjusted it and it is still showing odd-ball size...i managed to override it with ~/.kde/share/config/kdcontrolrc09:22
chovybut that file was all screwy too09:22
chovymultiple Height/Width definitions.09:22
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chovyso i deleted all but 1440x900 and now it works great09:23
chovythe default was something like 1980x1280 and *way* too big.09:23
ice9I just installed all the flash plugins for firefox, but its still saying it doesn't have flash installed09:23
stdinice9: restarted firefox?09:24
chovybut with ati drivers working it seems to crash Display & Monitor under Control center.09:24
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ice9yessir09:24
chovyice9: heh09:24
chovyi hate flash09:24
chovyhave the same problem.09:24
chovyit *sort of* works09:24
stdinchovy: hmm, don't know how well the ati driver works with kcontrol09:24
chovydepends on which site i go to.09:24
ice9I'm trying youtube, any problems with that?09:25
chovystdin: well, i'd rather have ati driver and no kcontrol09:25
stdinice9: how did you install the driver?09:25
chovyjust need to know how to tell the system to forget ~/.whatever and read from xorg.conf09:25
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ice9used the repository09:25
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stdinchovy: not sure on the exact files, maybe they know in #kde09:26
stdinice9: what version of kubuntu do you have?09:26
chovyInitialHeight 900=60009:26
chovyInitialWidth 1440=80009:26
ice9um the 7.02 or whatever, newest one09:26
chovyi'm assuming the =x is 4:309:26
chovy?09:26
pagice9, Youtube should work just great... At least with Adobe's Flash.. (I've heard it works with Gnash too, but never tried that myself)09:26
chovyi just want to step down a notch from 1440x900 (still too tiny)09:26
stdinchovy: umm, that's the size of the window09:26
ice9maybe I need to restart, thanks all09:27
stdinice9: restart won't fix it09:27
stdinheh, windows user :p09:27
chovyi think it was displayconfig actually that i changed09:28
jmegneraw, let's not make fun of those unfortunate enough to be more familiar with Windows than Linux09:28
stdinchovy: regardless of what kcontorl has in it's settings, if the mode isn't in xorg.conf it won't take effect09:28
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chovyit is in the mode...but displayconfigrc will override initial modes.09:29
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|Zero|H|I|T|help plz09:31
|Zero|H|I|T|my /var partition is full09:31
|Zero|H|I|T|and i want to make home smaller09:31
|Zero|H|I|T|and /var bigger09:31
|Zero|H|I|T|can i install qtparted at another partition?09:31
|Zero|H|I|T|qtparter*09:32
chovyyou could just symlink and move09:32
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stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: start by deleting some logs in /var/log <- that normally why /var get's full09:32
|Zero|H|I|T|oh...09:32
|Zero|H|I|T|my /var part is 2gb09:32
|Zero|H|I|T|should i make it bigger?09:32
chovyfind /var -type d09:33
chovyfind /var -type d | xargs du -hs09:33
chovyfind /var -maxdepth 1 -type d | xargs du -hs09:33
chovythat last one there :)09:33
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markcfind /var/log -type f -exec rm {} \;09:33
stdinmarkc: umm, no09:33
|Zero|H|I|T|i am kinda confused09:33
chovyor maxdepth 209:33
|Zero|H|I|T|what should i do?09:33
stdinmarkc: probably cause a crash then09:33
chovyyou gotta figure out what is taking the space.09:34
markcstdin, why, log fiules just get recreated09:34
|Zero|H|I|T|share is really big09:34
|Zero|H|I|T|now there is an error and i cant install or uninstall anythin09:34
|Zero|H|I|T|anything*09:34
stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: this is what i'd so "sudo apt-get clean" then "find /var/log -type f -name "*.gz" -exec sudo rm {} \; "09:34
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|Zero|H|I|T|sorry09:36
|Zero|H|I|T|i did a mistake09:36
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|Zero|H|I|T|the /usr partition is full09:36
|Zero|H|I|T|i did what stdin said and /var is ok09:36
|Zero|H|I|T|what should i do with /usr?09:36
stdinwell /usr is where mostly everything gets installed09:37
|Zero|H|I|T|and i cant install or uninstall anything now :(09:37
markcrm -rf /usr/share/doc09:37
|Zero|H|I|T|i get errors everywhere09:37
|Zero|H|I|T|what does this contain?09:37
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markcls -l /usr/share/doc09:38
stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: /usr/share/doc contains document that come with apps you install09:38
markcdu -s /usr/share/doc    # to see how big it is09:38
|Zero|H|I|T|i think i need the documents09:38
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markcall the docs are usually on the web via google09:39
|Zero|H|I|T|120092  /usr/share/doc09:39
markcdepends how desperate you are, if you MUST get some more room then it's the easiest thing to sacrifice09:39
|Zero|H|I|T|i think i can resize the partition09:39
markcgood, do that then09:39
|Zero|H|I|T|actually can i do this?09:39
|Zero|H|I|T|home is 9,4GB09:40
stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: if you want a list of the worst directories in /usr, I like this command: find /usr -maxdepth 2 -type d -exec du -s {} \;|sort -rnk 1,109:40
|Zero|H|I|T|and /usr is 2GB09:40
stdinyou'll want to pipe that through less09:40
stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: 2GB is a bit small for /usr09:40
markcor head/tail09:40
|Zero|H|I|T|which size is the best one for that?09:40
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chovybye a 300gb drive and mount it as /x09:41
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chovythen move all your data there and only run OS off /09:41
|Zero|H|I|T|i have got a 250usb one09:41
pag|Zero|H|I|T|, why do you have so many partitions? any special reason for that?09:41
|Zero|H|I|T|i just read is is better like that09:42
|Zero|H|I|T|but it isnt really :S09:42
|Zero|H|I|T|so09:42
stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: you probably don't need to have /usr, /var etc on differnt't partitions, just /home is fine for most09:42
markcif qparted will run then you could subtract 1 or 2 gb from your /home partition and add it to /usr09:42
|Zero|H|I|T|and the size would be ok?09:42
pag|Zero|H|I|T|, / and /home on different ones is just enought for home-user09:43
stdinmy /usr is 10GB, and I don't expect to get near that limit09:43
|Zero|H|I|T|so is making /home smaller and /usr bigger better or should i make a /usr partition at my 250 usb HDD?09:43
|Zero|H|I|T|there is a lot of free space there09:43
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markclots of partitions used to be handy when hard drives were small, some could fill up without bringing down the whole system, these days it doesn't count, just / and home is all that's needed09:44
|Zero|H|I|T|thats what i will do next time mark09:44
|Zero|H|I|T|but what should i do now?09:44
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vzduchcopy it all away, repartition and copy it back :)09:45
markcdepends whether you want to have to always mount the USB device... I'd lean towards trying qparted09:45
vzduchnote that you might have to reinstall your bootloader afterwards09:46
|Zero|H|I|T|i dont really know what to do now :(09:46
|Zero|H|I|T|reinstalling kubuntu seems...09:46
pag|Zero|H|I|T|, how fresh is your installation?09:46
|Zero|H|I|T|it is like...some weeks or days09:46
|Zero|H|I|T|not much09:46
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|Zero|H|I|T|should i backup and reinstall?09:47
pag|Zero|H|I|T|, I'd really suggest repartitioning and reinstallation then... 15GB for / would be more than enough09:47
|Zero|H|I|T|ok09:47
|Zero|H|I|T|look09:47
pagand the rest for /home  and you'll be fine :)09:47
|Zero|H|I|T|the internal HDD is 80GB09:47
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vzduchI have 10 GB /, after some 4 weeks it's nearly half used09:48
stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: if you want to have the same packages installed on the new install, run "dpkg --get-selections > packages" and copy "packages" to a disk (or just don't format /home)09:48
|Zero|H|I|T|the windows partition is 55GB09:48
stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: then you can run "sudo dpkg --set-selections < packages" then "sudo aptitude upgrade"09:48
vzduchdo you really need 55 GB for Windoze?09:48
|Zero|H|I|T|so i have got 25GB free09:48
stdinreinstalls all the same packages again09:48
|Zero|H|I|T|no09:48
|Zero|H|I|T|i think i dont09:49
markcthe safest thing to do is plug in your usb device, cp -a /usr /media/usbdevice/usr then mv /usr /usr.old then ln -s /media/usbdevice/usr /usr then rm -rf /usr.old (if all goes well)09:49
kaellani haw no sound :'(09:49
vzduchthen defragment your Windoze drive & resize it09:49
|Zero|H|I|T|stdin i wont do that because i have some corrupt packages and i get errors all the time09:49
vzduch|Zero|H|I|T|: if you have corrupt pkgs it's better to reinstall anyway09:49
stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: no, it will download the fresh packages from the web and install them09:49
pagkaellan, fresh installation? have you enabled it from the mixer (it's muted by default)09:49
stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: you do the 2nd set of command AFTER the reinstall09:50
|Zero|H|I|T|i am not sure09:50
|Zero|H|I|T|so09:50
kaellanpaq yes i haw unmuted :/09:50
|Zero|H|I|T|25GB free09:50
|Zero|H|I|T|1GB swap09:50
pagkaellan, ok... so you have no sound at all, or just some specific apps?09:50
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|Zero|H|I|T|so 24GB remain09:51
|Zero|H|I|T|what should i do there?09:51
kaellanpaq no sound at all :/ buth i had befor :S09:51
pag|Zero|H|I|T|, do you really need that much swap?  how much RAM do you got?09:51
pag!sound | kaellan09:51
ubotukaellan: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:51
|Zero|H|I|T|51209:51
|Zero|H|I|T|i read that ram*2 is good for swap09:52
pag|Zero|H|I|T|, I'd suggest then (It's my opinion only!) 1GB swap  10GB / and the rest for /home09:52
|Zero|H|I|T|about /boot?09:52
pagI currently have only 3.2GB used on / so theoretically it could be smaller too..09:53
kaellanpaq what is K menu ?09:53
|Zero|H|I|T|down at the left09:53
pag|Zero|H|I|T|, iirc no real need for /boot09:53
pagkaellan, 'start-button'09:53
|Zero|H|I|T|oh...09:53
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|Zero|H|I|T|so 1GB swap, 10GB /  and 14 for /home?09:54
pag|Zero|H|I|T|, it might be useful if you have multiple linuxes installed and you want total control of the grub, but else it can safely be placed on / and it'll work09:54
|Zero|H|I|T|i just have xp and kubuntu09:55
markc<|Zero|H|I|T|> yes, a good size combo09:55
|Zero|H|I|T|10GB will be good for usr, var and all that?09:55
pag|Zero|H|I|T|, yup. something like that.. 7.5GB could be enought for / too, but it's getting risky, so lets just keep it @ 10GB09:55
|Zero|H|I|T|now that i will reinstall i have to delete grub?09:56
markc<|Zero|H|I|T|> yep 10Gb is "safe enough" for /09:56
|Zero|H|I|T|should i do fixmbr from windows recovery or what?09:56
kaellanemm, is shell the writing box ?09:57
kaellancommand box*09:57
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kaellanterminal :P09:57
stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: no need, grub will just be overwritten by the install09:57
|Zero|H|I|T|thats konsole09:57
|Zero|H|I|T|are you sure?09:57
vzduchwhat's the surest way to find out the date that I installed my system? (file date or something)09:57
|Zero|H|I|T|i dont wanna risk it :S09:57
stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: yes09:57
stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: i'm 100000001% sure :)09:57
|Zero|H|I|T|:D09:57
pagvzduch, /etc/issue's creation date?09:58
|Zero|H|I|T|i wanna hear pag's opinion09:58
|Zero|H|I|T|what do you think pag?09:58
vzduchpag: no, it's the date the distro came out09:58
pag|Zero|H|I|T|, if you're not going to boot to windows between the removal and installation, then there's no need to fix mbr09:59
|Zero|H|I|T|so i will just boot from cd and install kubuntu again?09:59
stdinyeah09:59
|Zero|H|I|T|wish me luck :)09:59
|Zero|H|I|T|first of all thanks a lot09:59
|Zero|H|I|T|this channel is really helping people09:59
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vzduchimho it'd be good if the installer created a 0 byte file after installation is finished.. like openSUSE does, it puts a file 'success' in /10:00
pagvzduch, /boot/grub/default's creation date maybe? :-/10:00
vzduchpag: that looks like a better pick10:01
|Zero|H|I|T|oops10:02
|Zero|H|I|T|i cant make backup of my data...10:02
vzduchhuh?10:02
|Zero|H|I|T|it refuses to write at the usb disk10:02
pagntfs?10:02
|Zero|H|I|T|yeah10:02
pag!ntfs-3g10:02
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions10:02
|Zero|H|I|T|thanks :D10:03
stdinpag: he can't install packages :p10:03
pagoh.. right :-/10:03
|Zero|H|I|T|yeah i cant!!!!10:03
|Zero|H|I|T|:(10:03
stdin|Zero|H|I|T|: tho you can install the ntfs-3g package when you're on the live cd, then copy the files over then10:03
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pagstdin, onlu 512 ram - will it be enough to handle both livecd AND the installations?10:04
|Zero|H|I|T|can i create an ext3 partition with partition magic in windows?10:04
stdinpag: yeah10:05
pag|Zero|H|I|T|, it should be possible10:05
|Zero|H|I|T|i will reboot to try10:05
stdinpag: the live session is decompressed on-the-fly10:05
|Zero|H|I|T|thanks! I will return...i think...10:05
|Zero|H|I|T|:)10:05
pagstdin, ok.10:05
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HanzZhi i want to have two version of one package, how can i do it?10:06
stdinshort answer is you can't10:06
HanzZ;)10:06
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stdinslightly longer answer is, not easily10:06
HanzZok.. so i compile it10:06
HanzZto the home10:07
stdinyeah, just make sure you install it to /home/you or /usr/local/10:07
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|Zero|H|I|T|back10:15
|Zero|H|I|T|i made a partition for backup with partition magic10:15
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|Zero|H|I|T|why isnt there a create folder cmd when left clicking somewhere in a folder?10:16
stdinusually means that it's read-only10:16
|Zero|H|I|T|but the partition is ext310:17
stdin(or you don't have permission)10:17
|Zero|H|I|T|oh10:17
|Zero|H|I|T|chmod10:17
stdinno, kdesu konqueror10:17
stdineasier :)10:17
|Zero|H|I|T|kdesu konqueror?10:17
stdinruns konqueror as root10:17
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|Zero|H|I|T|cool10:19
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vzduchI chown'ed my spare ext3 partition to be able to write to it as user10:20
|Zero|H|I|T|copying postal 2 at the ext3 partition atm10:21
vzduchand I'm still contemplating turning my 2 FAT32 partitions into ext3.. I could install ext2 drivers for Windoze if I need the data ther10:21
vzduche10:21
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vzduchmorning PriceChild10:22
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aeromm10:30
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valchershello10:30
valchersI have problem with kubuntu instalation10:31
valcherssomebody can help me?10:31
pagvalchers, what kind of problem?10:31
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valchersI put in cd room10:32
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valcherskubuntu 7.04 64 bu10:32
valchersthen i rebot in dc room10:32
valchersthen I start instelation10:32
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valcherskernel is loded and10:32
valchersthen10:32
valchersis black screen10:32
stdinvalchers: it helps to keep it on _one_ line10:32
stdinvalchers: what graphics card?10:34
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DarkWizzardhttp://pastebin.ca/62843610:36
DarkWizzardany reason for kwin to not work10:36
valchersone moment10:36
DarkWizzardand give me this ?10:36
valchersGeForce 7100GS, 128MB, 64bit10:37
valchersmyu graphic card10:37
stdinhmm, it probably doesn't work well with the driver on the disk10:37
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stdinvalchers: you can always just use the alternate cd to install from10:38
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titanix88will gusty ship with kde4.0?10:46
titanix88will gusty ship with kde4.0?10:46
stdintitanix88: no10:46
titanix88why not?:(10:46
pagtitanix88, it can be installed though, but it won't be default untill 8.10 for what I've heard10:46
titanix88why not?:(10:46
vzduchstability10:47
stdintitanix88: because it won't be ready10:47
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stdinand you only need to send the message once10:47
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titanix88what abt cowpiz fusion?10:48
titanix88what abt cowpiz fusion?10:48
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vzduchtry to fix your keyboard first, everything you type shows twice10:49
pagtitanix88, iirc it will be there... why do you always repeat evetything twice?10:49
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stdintitanix88: 1) it's compiz, not cowpiz. 2) yes, that will be in gutsy. and 3) gutsy questions in #ubuntu+110:49
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titanix88sorry i am using jmirc(from my mobile) maybe the clients fault:(10:51
titanix88sorry i am using jmirc(from my mobile) maybe the clients fault:(10:51
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flokuehnhi everybody10:54
flokuehndoes anybody know how to create an virtual machine for vmware?10:54
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stdinflokuehn: vmware player?10:55
titanix88jmirc is a gpl soft for java enabled mobiles10:55
andreaflokuehn: you can use qemu but I don't remember the exact commands...10:55
stdinflokuehn: http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml10:55
flokuehnok thx10:56
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MaTiAzWhat package contains 7z support for ark?11:01
krautmoin11:01
vzduch!info p7zip11:01
ubotup7zip: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.43~dfsg.1-1 (feisty), package size 315 kB, installed size 948 kB11:01
stdinMaTiAz: or p7zip-full11:02
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johnHey11:20
paghi john11:21
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jtmoneyi can't find much using google or the forums... anyone know why i can't get past the boot screen when trying to install kubuntu desktop or atlernative from within virtualbox on my xp box?11:35
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kalman!archives11:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about archives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:49
kalman!repository11:49
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:49
kalman!archive11:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about archive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:50
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kalmanhi11:50
vzduch!botabuse11:50
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...11:50
kalmananyone knows where I can find a list of repository near france ?11:51
pag!easysources11:51
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:51
kalmanthank you11:51
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hippieHELP!!! installed gnome now I cant do anything, the panels are there but theres no menues, no icons, no nothing, cant get to KDM logon so I can switch it back to kde, auto login is enabled, how do I disable it from the command line?12:00
Level15hey guys... i'm trying to get hibernation to work on ly laptop but instead of hibernating, I get a blank screen and everything freezes. Using a Dell C2D and Nvidia binary drivers...12:00
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wepihahippie: have you searched google to find out a) how to disable autologin    b) reset your kdm configuration12:03
hippiehow do I do that?12:03
vzduch*omfg*12:03
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hippieall I got is termanal mode atm until the auto logon is disabled12:03
Level15hehe12:03
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Level15hippie: you do realize this is Kubuntu channel, right? Meaning most people here uses KDE instead of Gnome...12:04
hippieyeah12:04
hippiei use KDE, but installed gnome and it broke my system12:04
hippienow I cant get to KDE at all12:05
Level15well, try uninstalling gnome :)12:05
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Level15apt-get remove or something like that12:05
hippiedid, still goes streight to gnome when I boot up12:05
Level15then you didn't uninstall gnome12:05
hippiebut cant do anything with it, no menues, icons or anything, and it verry verry verry unrespnsive12:05
Level15does alt+f2 work under gnome? perhaps you can open a terminal there12:06
hippieit does work, but takes like 2 min for the window to show up12:07
Level15if alt+f2 works, run kcontrol, disable autologin12:07
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Level15hippie, well, i don't think that speed problem is gnome related...12:07
vzduchcan you run kcontrol from VGA console?12:07
Level15vzduch: of course not12:07
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hippiejust restarted the x server12:08
Level15hippie: just to make things clear: you ARE under gnome right now, right? And you can do Alt+F2 and get a Run dialog in which you can run kcontrol, right?12:08
hippienow bitchx got extreamly slow, 2 sec delay in typing12:09
vzduchBitchX.. *omg*12:09
hippieits all I can use atm12:10
Level15hippie:  did you try what i told you?12:10
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vzduchhow about using irssi?  no need to tame it before it behaves like a neat IRC client :>12:10
hippieyup.... and tried running kcontrol12:11
hippiestill waiting for it to load12:11
Level15hippie: that speed problem is something else...12:11
hippieI didnt have tis speed problem at all until I dicided I wanted to try gnome12:12
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Level15well, i'm not very fond of gnome, but i don't think it's *that* bad to slow down your computer that much12:12
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hippietheres no icons, no text, cant see my text when I type in the run program box12:14
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hippiereinstalling isnt an option..... my cdrom drive died the other day12:15
Level15hippie: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc12:15
Level15comment this line:12:16
Level15AutoLoginEnable=true12:16
Level15then reboot12:16
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hippiefinally... kcontrol loaded12:16
Level15does kcontrol icons, text, etc show OK?12:16
Level15anyone with some experience on getting hibernation to work on laptops?12:16
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hippieyes the icons and text sho ok in kcontrol12:17
hippieshow*12:17
Level15hippie: ok, then you can fix it from there12:17
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hippiemaybe not12:19
Level15hippie: why not?12:19
hippieeverything is greyd out, and admin mode doesnt seem to work.... unles its gonna 5 hrs just to process a damn password!12:19
Level15hippie: then go to text mode, stop kdm, edit the file i told you, start kdm...12:20
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hippieok12:21
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vzduchin this case it might well be gdm12:21
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hippiedamn... what was that file again, or how do I scroll up in bitchx?12:22
Level15hippie: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc12:22
vzduchtry PgUp/PgDn12:22
Level15comment this line:12:22
Level15AutoLoginEnable=true12:22
hippieoh ok12:22
hippienever used bitchx before12:22
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Arcerhi guys12:23
Level15anyone with some experience on getting hibernation to work on laptops?12:24
hippieguess it finally decided to take my passwd... kcontrol let me do it12:24
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hippiebrb12:24
Level15hippie: ok, just try whichever works faster for you12:24
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Level15dude... i just realized kubuntu thinks i don't have a swap partition... even though it is there on my fstab...12:26
vzduchperhaps try 'sudo swapon'12:26
Level15hm, BTOH, i actually DON'T have a swap partition... I'm wondering where did it go, since I remember having one before :D12:26
vzducho012:27
Level15i was resizing my fs the other day, i guess o broke it then12:27
Level15what was that command to see your partition's UUID?12:28
adaptrtune2fs -l12:29
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Level15no, there's another one... I don't use e2fs12:29
hippie-thx guys12:29
Level15or e3fs for that matter12:29
hippie-back in KDE now12:29
Level15hippie-: slow behavior problem gone?12:29
hippie-yup12:30
hippie-its all back to norma12:30
hippie-normal*12:30
Level15good12:30
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hippie-beryl and everything.... all working as it should12:31
joshua__can anyone tell me if KDE4 Alpha 2 is ready for download in the repos, and if so, how I can download and check it out?12:31
adaptrLevel15 you mean vol_id12:31
adaptrvol_id -u /dev/hdXY12:32
jtmoneyi can't find much using google or the forums... anyone know why i can't get past the boot screen when trying to install kubuntu desktop or atlernative from within virtualbox on my xp box?12:32
Level15adaptr: yeah, that's one of them.... though there was another one which wouldl tell you all uids of all partitions...12:32
hippie-well.. yall have a good night... errr... mornin12:33
hippie-im going to bed12:33
hippie-thx for the help12:33
adaptrLevel15 yes, that would be vol_id /dev/[sh] d[abcd] [1234]  :)12:33
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Level15adaptr: he, that's a nice way, yes :)12:34
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Level15what do you know... I ACTUALLY don't have a swap partition...12:39
Level15and worse, I have no space to create one...12:39
vzduchthen make some space.. 1 GB should do :)12:40
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NightBirdyeah, you don't need a swap partition... though it's generally a good idea..12:40
Level15vzduch: i am kind of short on space... i honestly don't see where i can get the 2 GB i need (in order to have s2disk to work)12:41
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vzduchwell.. how much space have you got, and for what?12:41
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Level15i have 2 gb freen on /home, 2.3GB on / and 162 MB on /usr... i could get it from /home but then i could not create more files or whatever :P12:43
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Level15and there's that /usr ticking bomb...12:43
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vzduchI mean the total space12:45
vzduchpartition sizes12:45
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Level15vzduch: Dell partition 56 MB, win partition (has my music and videos) 60 GB, /usr 3 GB, / 3 GB, /home 9 GB12:46
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vzduchall a bit narrow.. you should consider further reducing the size of your Windoze partition12:47
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Level15vzduch: yeah, i guess that's the only place i might eventually get some space from... maybe i need to buy an externa disk an move all my music and videos there... then i can make windoze partition about 20 or 30 GB12:48
vzduchbesides, I don't see the benefit in having a separate /usr partition12:48
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vzduchyou could combine / and /usr in 1 partition w/ 5 GB12:49
Level15vzduch: i didn't have one before... but then / was full. so what i did was get rid of a Dell Media Direct shitty partition and move my /usr there...12:49
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Level15vzduch: not an option, since one of them is primary, the other one extended... and i'd really hate to have to copy everything somewhere else and reinstall12:50
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Level15has any of you used LVM?12:50
adaptryes, and so have you12:51
adaptr*buntu installs with it by default12:51
vzduch<-- no LVM, no RAID, no hibernate12:51
vzduchadaptr: I think you're mixing something up here..12:51
Level15adaptr: no, it doesn't...12:51
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adaptrah - okay, that must be just the server, then12:52
Level15adaptr: probably...12:52
vzduchfrom the DVD TeXLive installs like a charm :)12:53
Level15i read somewhere that it required to use the whole disk, so it was not possible to share that disk with another OS... is that true? Are there any workarounds?12:53
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vzduchLVM is meant to make 1 logical drive from 2 or more hdds12:54
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Level15why from 2 or more? can't it just work with one?12:55
vzduchI guess it could, but what's the use?12:56
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Level15vzduch: resizing FS without so much hassle12:57
vzduchhuh?12:57
Level15well, that's the idea of LVM, right?12:58
Level15you grow short of space somewhere, you add an extend to your logical drive12:58
vzduchafaik not12:58
vzduchif you think it this way yes..12:59
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Level15what do you mean?12:59
vzduchonly when I hear 'resizing' I'm used to think 'shrinking'01:00
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Level15oh01:00
Level15i see01:00
Level15well i guess it is possible to shrink as well by removing an extend... though i have never used it so i wouldn't know foor sure01:01
bulwynklhwody all - is there a way to repair or revert an LVM to regular /dev/ format?  The problem is the startup files think it's LVM but it isn't...01:01
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vzduchand if you run out of space and have a spare partition you just copy files and adjust mount points accordingly, no need for LVM01:02
Level15well guys, nice talking to you but i am going to have lunch now01:02
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Level15c'ya later01:03
zenumhey... i have a root partition which used to be sdb1, i've since changed a lot of hard disks around and now the system no longer boots. I've shoved in the live cd and it can see the partition and lists it as sda1... could the fact that it is now recognized as a different partition be why its no longer booting?01:03
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vzduchof course01:03
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vzduchput the disk on primary slave and you'll be fine, I guess01:04
zenumis there a way I can fix it? either making it sdb1 again or repairing the install so that it correctly boots with sda1?01:04
zenumi've boot the disk in a couple of different sata ports...01:04
vzduchah, SATA.. dunno about that01:04
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zenumwould i need to make sure that another disk is plugged in in a sata port before the boot disk?01:05
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vzduchwell, if you can plug something in that'll be recognized as sda and your boot disk as sdb, then it should be ok01:06
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mike__Greets, everyone01:07
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zenumvzduch: i guess theres only one way to find out01:08
mike__!gutsy01:08
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+101:08
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oxy??01:28
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snikkerhow can i change the network interface name? (eth2-->eth0)01:30
toniedit /etc/network/interfaces01:31
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HayaBusagood morning . How can i check my IP address ???01:33
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snikkertoni: thank you01:33
toniyou're welcome01:33
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Pharsalusmornin' all, does anyone know of any 'miniplayer' plugins available for Amarok?01:35
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HayaBusai think amarok has miniplayer01:36
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HayaBusamine is set to miniplayer01:36
toniwhat is miniplayer01:38
HayaBusasmall music player :) ..01:38
PharsalusWhere do you turn it on?01:38
HayaBusai forgot , let me check01:39
tonisnikker:  you'll need root privilege to change that file01:39
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toniamarok is a small music player already, isn't it?01:40
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PharsalusIt is, but I have a small screen and I want it really really dinky.01:41
toniif you use noatn, it only occupies an icon on the panel01:42
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HayaBusabe honest , i really have no idea how .. i totally forgot . but amarak got that feature somewhere , you can make th player only show the title while playing.01:42
tonihola belen01:42
PharsalusOk, thanks anyway, I'll do some more searching.01:42
PharsalusAha! "Show player window" on general settings page. Thanks HayaBusa. :)01:43
HayaBusaheh. there .01:43
HayaBusa:)01:43
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tonilineak-kdeplugins are the only plugins I see for amarok. I don't know what are they for01:44
HayaBusaNOw, how can i see my dynamic IP address ?01:44
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toniHayBusa: you have to access your router (if u use a lan) or go to a web pag that shows it01:46
HayaBusais there any ping version of window for linux ?01:46
tonisearch in google: something like myip.com or ipaddress.com would do it01:46
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tonigo here http://www.myip.dk/01:47
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HayaBusathanks TONI . but needed a command to check my ip and other NIC info .01:47
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snikkertoni: yes, i've see it :-) thanks01:48
toniI think that is not possible if you use a private IP in a Lan01:48
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[ifr0g] Where could i find the list packages present on the kubuntu dvd ?01:48
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HayaBusa#photogeeks01:49
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HayaBusahumm01:49
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toniHayBusa: have you heard that is possible?01:49
HayaBusayes.01:50
HayaBusalol01:50
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HayaBusai think., im new to linux .01:50
HayaBusabut if window got it , then im pretty sure there are commands with in linux01:50
tonihow do you do it in windos01:50
HayaBusaipconfig /all01:50
HayaBusaipconfig01:50
HayaBusaping localhost or ping computer name01:50
tonithat doesn't give you your external ip01:51
HayaBusayes it dose01:51
HayaBusaipconfig /all , will give you all the info on NIC ..01:51
tonihow are you connecting to internet01:51
HayaBusaDSL , no router01:51
tonidialup modem or dsl with a router01:51
toniNo router?01:51
HayaBusamodem has  a built in router01:52
tonithen do  /sbin/ifconfig01:52
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HayaBusawhat that command dose01:52
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toniOk and you use the router01:52
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tonithe same as in windows01:53
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toniit's just iFconfig and not iPconfig01:53
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toniwhat you got?01:54
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HayaBusabunch of stuff, but only router ip address .like 192.168.. no externall ip listed.01:55
tonino, no it's not the router address01:55
toniif you have 192.168.0.128 or something similar, That's the IP you use in you lan (lan =pc, router)01:56
tonithat's you private IP01:56
HayaBusathats what i said . .:) .. it is router address .01:56
HayaBusamy last question01:57
toniyour router has two IP's, one private, like 192.168.0.101:57
HayaBusahow can i join the IRC called photogeeks01:57
toniand another public or external which is the one you see if you go to myip.dk01:57
HayaBusathanks toni.. ifconfig seems to be pretty insteresting thing.01:58
tonii don't know, you need the name of the server and the channel01:58
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HayaBusais on freenode01:59
toniyour router/modem converts your private IP in a public IP (his ip) for going outside of the lan01:59
[ifr0g] Where could i find the list of packages present on the kubuntu dvd ?02:00
HayaBusaiknow about NAT .. but im not good with linux since this is my first time using linux ..02:00
toni#gnome02:00
vzduch[ifr0g] : on the DVD?02:00
toniI don't know..in you client, there must be a way to select the channel02:00
toni===> GONE02:01
vzduch*omfg*.. is it so difficult to type '/join #photogeeks'?02:01
HayaBusaonce you new to IRC everything is difficult02:02
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[ifr0g] vbgunz, online.02:02
HayaBusaalso thanks vzduch02:02
HayaBusaif you can tell me how i can have the channal at all time everytime i start the IRC ? without typing '/join #02:04
vzduchHayaBusa: IRC quick guide: Channel names usually start w/ a #.  To join a channel, type '/join #<channel>', to get out of a channel type '/part <channel>', to exit all channels and quit your IRC client type '/quit'.  After 'part' and 'quit' you can optionally type a message that will be displayed when you exit02:05
vzduchfor more details refer to the docs of your client02:05
HayaBusaTHanks.02:05
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HayaBusaHUMM, YOU checking up on me ?;)02:07
vzduchno, just wanted to know whether this channel really exists02:08
HayaBusayes. i think is a good channal for photographer . well , i hope so . no one seems to be active there yet..02:08
vzduchbetter get used to that.. in most IRC channels <10 % of the people are active02:09
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dhqi have a router.... i want to redirect all the connection from my router to pass through my pc ..... internet---->router---->main pc---->rest of the pc02:09
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vzduchdhq: what's 'rest of the PC'?02:10
dhqvzduch, well i  have a laptop which i wanna monitor all the pcs on the network02:11
dhqvzduch, did you get me02:13
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dhqis there any captive portal app for linux02:14
vzduchI think so.. well, if you have a router you have several LAN ports normally.. connect all your computers to the router and use a sniffer for LAN traffic.. don't remember any names right now02:14
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onechardwireshark etherape02:15
vzduchbut consult your lawyer before installing any of these, they might be illegal where you are :P02:16
Chousuke:P02:16
ChousukeEveryone loves idiotic laws <302:17
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hatterwhere are the themes kept in superkaramba ?02:17
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zenumdoes anyone know how to make an lvm vg stay active after restarting?02:23
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zenumI used to have lvm with /dev/md1 as a pv, however after removing /dev/md0 the /dev/md1 renamed itself to /dev/md0 and now the volume group doesn't boot up by itself anymore02:24
zenumI have to run vmscan and vmchange -a y for it to work again02:24
zenumbut after i restart i have to do it all over again02:24
rixxonhow can I see if a package is installed?02:26
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milesgood mornin!02:35
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BluesKajhowdy all :)02:38
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BluesKaj!ntfs-config02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
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BluesKaj!ntfs-3g02:39
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions02:39
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=== BluesKaj wonders when these sites become KDE friendly , rather than defaulting to the gnome tutorials
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BluesKajIsn't KDE mature enuff to have tutorials directed at kde users ?02:43
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kabakcontrol => Fonts -> Force fonts dpi: 96 / 120 --- into which file is this parameter written; how change it to 107 dpi?02:44
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miles!opengl02:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:44
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fildo!webcam02:44
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras02:44
BluesKaj!KDE-Tutorials02:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde-tutorials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:45
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miles!skype02:45
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ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto02:46
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BluesKajnot surprising , we're stuck with stuff written for gnome that doesn't exist in the k-menu after installation ...can it be so difficult?02:46
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mike__Greets, everyone...02:48
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fildo!webcam02:58
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras02:58
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milesSysinfo for 'nzxt': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlon643800+ at 1000 MHz (2016 bogomips), , RAM: 696/2012MB, 98 proc's, 10.3h up03:08
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vzduchCPU[AMD Athlon clocked at 900.083 Mhz]   Kernel[Linux 2.6.20-16-lowlatency i686]   Up[-8days-]   Mem[-320.8/757.5MB-]   HDD[-280GB(39%used)-]   Procs[-114-]   Client[Shell wrapper] 03:09
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vzduchhi BluesKaj03:11
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BluesKajhi vzduch..wassup?03:12
vzduchah, just hangin' around :>03:12
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vzduchI installed TeXLive 2007 earlier today, because the 2006 that's in the repos won't install more than a few basic pkgs due to a conflict w/ tetex which is needed by kile03:14
BluesKaji'm getting tired of being directed to gnome tutorials , when is KDE going to be recognized as a mature desktop ? the menus arent the same etc ... my freinds are becoming confused when the 'applications' can't be found in the k-menu .03:15
vzduchyou're free to write adaptations :>03:15
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BluesKajof course vzduch , but attracting new ppl to linux and kubuntu is the 'cause' so to speak ..and telling me to write an adaptation is a not an answer and you know it.03:17
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vzduchif you look for howtos for solely KDE-based distros you'll be sure to find some.. but it seems that the number of ppl on the *buntu IRC channels speak for themselves; if you take these as a guideline you will find that usage of Kubuntu is probably about 25 % that of Ubuntu03:19
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vzduchand as long as ppl don't complain about missing Kubuntu-specific documentation, then the ppl who make the documentation won't know there is a need :)03:20
chaotic_do u guys know how to get counterstrike working03:20
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chaotic_on wine03:21
BluesKaj25% is a lot .. I still think there should be some work done by the dev-ppl to setup an *asterisk/auxiliary set of instructions pertaining to KDE users03:21
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BluesKajI spent a whole day fixing my buddy's feisty setup and showing him how to use KDE , he was about to dum kubuntu and install ubuntu cuz all the tutorials were for gnome users. He didn't understand the the difference between a dektop and OS., which is very common , believe me.03:24
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BluesKajdesktop03:25
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vzduchsad but true.. that's the ppl who have never seen, let alone used, M$ DOS03:26
oldgrizzis there a relatively easy way get ubuntu to dual boot with vista home premium ?03:27
vzducholdgrizz: same as it ever was: first install Windoze, second install Linux03:28
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oldgrizzvz: do I need to repartition the drive ?03:28
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vzducholdgrizz: depends on what you have03:29
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vzduchfor convenience and proper functioning, you'll want 3 partitions for Linux03:30
oldgrizzwill the ubuntu install allow me to make them ?03:30
vzduch10 - 15 GB for / (the 'base' folder of the filesystem that contains everything), twice the size of your RAM for swap, the rest for /home03:31
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vzducholdgrizz: the installer has a partitioner03:31
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BluesKajoldgrizz, there's a way to restore the MBR without losing grub after you install linux ..boot into vista if possible and download Easy BCD 1.60 and install it03:32
BluesKajit will help restore the bootloader GUI for both OSs03:32
vzduchBluesKaj: you're confusing something.. installing Linux will end him up w/ a functioning MBR and bootloader anyway :>03:33
BluesKajnot with vista ,... :(03:33
vzduch(if nothing goes wrong, that is)03:33
BluesKajI already went thru it03:33
vzduchwhat's so different about Vista that makes this more complicated?03:33
BluesKajthe chainloader isn't used or somesuch03:34
oldgrizzdo I get the Easy BSD installed before or after I do the linux install?03:34
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BluesKajBCD! not BSD03:34
BluesKajafterwards03:34
oldgrizzok thanks03:35
vzduchanother reason not to use Vista..03:35
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vzduchnot to mention that even my XP installation is almost jobless now03:35
chaotic_how do i move afile from one location to another03:35
chaotic_thru terminal03:35
oldgrizzwell I guess Im going to give it a whirl03:36
vzduchchaotic_: Possibility 1: drag'n'drop w/ your favourite file manager, Possibility 2: 'mv /path/to/sourcefile /path/to/destinationfile'03:36
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chaotic_whats -rf for03:37
vzduch-r == recursive (for directories), -f == force03:37
vzduchthe -rf options are commonly used for rm (remove == delete)03:38
vzduchw/ the -f switch suppressing the question if you really want to delete the file(s)/folder(s)03:38
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vzduchthat's why it's a bad idea to follow the advice to 'rm -rf /' *gg*03:39
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flokuehnhi03:40
flokuehniam trying to install xp home edition in an virtual machine03:41
BluesKaji use XP due to the unfortunate fact that the scanning programs like kooka and sane don't do a very good job on photos aand documents ...something tht is important to us due to documentation requirements for our family travels etc.03:41
flokuehnbut after some time i get the error message: failed to set the grab state: stale data03:41
flokuehndoes anybody konw this error message?03:41
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BluesKajflokuehn, virtualbox ?03:42
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flokuehnits vmware player03:42
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BluesKaji tried the vmware server free version , it was ok but didn't allow drivers for some hardware etc , so I just dumped it ...was impressive at first but the limitations just became too much03:45
flokuehni can install something like xp in vmware server too03:45
flokuehn?03:45
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BluesKajyup03:46
flokuehnbut you have no clue about this error message, isnt it?03:46
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BluesKajno idea , flokuehn03:46
flokuehnok03:46
flokuehnthanks anyway03:46
BluesKajsorry :(03:46
flokuehnhaha doesnt matter03:47
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chaotic_how can i move folders into wine folders03:55
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yourihello03:59
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yourithe problem is that kubuntu thinks my usb keyboard = card004:01
youriwhat's the command to choose what is card004:01
youriplease :)04:01
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GrahamAHey, I setup a Debian server but I was wondering, considering that Ubuntu is based on Debian, would it be better to have an ubuntu server or a debian server?04:04
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BadRobotHi there .I've installed the Ubuntu Feisty. It hangs after the message "Loading boot/initrd.....". It looks like its about to load a new screen, but the screen stays black and it just hangs there.The laptop is an ASUS A6000KM.So,could anyone give some help?04:07
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PupenoI am trying to grok monads, but after a few hours I'm still failing. I am playing with my own state monad, and I can't understand why it has to be a function: newtype State st a = State (st -> (st, a)).04:17
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Pupenoopps, wrong channel.04:18
marko__how do i rename a file in shell ?04:19
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vzduchmv sourcefile destinationfile04:20
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marko__tnx04:20
marko__vzduch, is there any other way to rename it ?04:21
vzduchin the shell, no04:21
marko__oh04:21
marko__ok04:21
marko__:)04:21
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pagmarko__, what's wrong with that one?04:22
marko__eh nothing in a friend's shell it isn't working04:22
marko__but i don't care :>04:22
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vzduchthen he's either got a typo or the wrong path04:22
|Karti|Hi all. I want to re-image my PC with a ghost image of 7.04. My question is this ...if I save my home drive and copy it across to my new home drive, will all my settings for Kontact and the like be safe.....or should I just start again?04:23
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pag|Karti|, they should be safe - use the same Username(s) and UID(s) just to be sure04:24
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|Karti|pag: many thanks04:26
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grul!mouse04:33
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto04:33
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roaldhello everyone:)04:45
roaldI have a compiz-fusion kubuntu-related question04:46
roaldam i in the right place?04:46
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BluesKaj!compiz | roald04:48
uboturoald: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:48
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highd1Can anyone tell me where the bookmark folder is located?04:51
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dyn-86HELP!...i'm in big trouble....for some strange reason, after i enter my password, the x server just blanks the screen for a couple of secs, then it appears again, i'm not getting a login failed message04:52
dyn-86i went on the console and gave it the startx command04:53
dyn-86and now i'm here////wherever here is..04:53
dyn-86a friend of mine told me to do that04:53
paghighd1, kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml maybe?04:54
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highd1thanks.  I'm also having hibernation/suspension problems04:55
highd1a little pixel appears above my mouse cursor and I can't access anything04:56
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dyn-86some1?04:57
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dyn-86any104:57
dyn-86?04:57
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pagdyn-86, any error messages?04:57
dyn-86not one04:57
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dyn-86it just sends me back 2 the login screen04:57
pagdyn-86, but with 'startx' it launched just fine?04:58
[NL] Jazzdyn-86: is your homedirectory full?04:58
dyn-86i don't know04:58
dyn-86let me ss04:58
dyn-86see04:58
lontraany recommends on a good multimedia plugin for konqueror?04:58
dyn-86it says it is if i click properties, but right now04:59
GrahamAlontra: Can't you use Kaffiene?04:59
[NL] Jazzdyn-86: can you use a terminal?04:59
dyn-86i can't really see anything except desktop in my /root04:59
dyn-86yeah05:00
dyn-86everything seems 2 be running fine05:00
[NL] Jazzare you trying to login in X with root?05:00
dyn-86can use terminal05:00
StoneNewtSeagate05:00
dyn-86meaning?05:00
[NL] Jazzdyn-86: df -h in a terminal05:00
tomislavHello. I'm trying to get Gefore4 420 Go 32M proprietary drivers working on Kubuntu 7.04, and no luck at all. I tried using legacy and 96xx drivers from the repository, tried running the various intallers by hand, even tried compiling 8776 drivers with some patch (coldn't compile the damned thing in the end), and nothing. Any help would be appriciated.05:00
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[NL] Jazztomislav: have you tried envy?05:01
tomislavNo, not yet.05:01
dyn-86it says my hda drive is fully used:-/05:01
highd1is anyone else having trouble with hibernation problems after updating?05:01
tomislavWill it break something?05:01
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dyn-86i let ktorrent downloading there....is that the problem?05:01
[NL] Jazzdyn-86: than that's the reason why you can't login05:01
pagtomislav, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx   should work just fine05:01
dyn-86how do i fix that?05:01
pag!envy | tomislav05:01
ubotutomislav: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!05:01
tomislavpag: Not for this card.05:01
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highd1I want to back up my bookmarks but i still can't find the folder05:02
dyn-86[NL] Jazz?05:02
lontraGrahamA: is there a konqueror plugin?05:02
[NL] Jazzdyn-86: eehw05:02
paghighd1, it should in hidden kde folder in your home-directory05:03
vzduchpag: for a GF4 you need the -legacy05:03
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tomislavpag: The problem seem to be that this card is now officially abondened by NVidia. I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, though.05:03
dyn-86[NL] Jazz:is this bad?05:03
[NL] Jazzdyn-86: i suggest deleting a big file in the terminal05:03
omeowHi, how can I release and refresh my DCHP lease in kubuntu?05:03
tomislavvzduch: Nope, not even legacy package worked.05:03
[NL] Jazzdyn-86: no it isn't bad05:03
dyn-86how do i do that?05:03
lontraGrahamA: i.e. clicking on the real audio link doesn't open an embedded kaffeine here ... http://www.democracynow.org/streampage.pl05:04
[NL] Jazzwhat's the directory where you download torrens?05:04
vzduchtomislav: define 'didn't work'05:04
dyn-86[NL] Jazz05:05
pagdyn-86, rm /home/username/theverybigfile05:05
tomislavvzduch: I install it, use System Settings -> Monitor & Display to select nvidia driver, restart X, and nothing (I just see the bootsplash screen after that one instead of kdm login screen - the kdm seems to keep running, though)05:05
[NL] Jazzthank you pag:)05:05
[NL] Jazzpff i need a smoke:P05:05
dyn-86pag:i don't know the name of theverybigfile05:05
dyn-86how do i see the contents?05:06
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tomislavvzduch: On the other hand, do the legacy drivers provide full acceleration? I'm trying to see if this machine could run beryl for time-to-time show-off.05:06
pagdyn-86, ok... do cd /home/yourusername  and then ls -l  it'll show you the sizes of files05:06
vzduchtomislav: tried bypassing or disabling the bootsplash? (Ctrl-Alt-F1 or remove 'splash' from the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst)05:06
highd1pag- I have searched and searched no luck yet05:06
vzduchto see the error messages05:06
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tomislavvzduch: Ctrl+Alt+F1 just shows me the console (I think that the bootsplash screen is more of some kind of relic in memory).05:07
dyn-86pag:it says no such file or directory, and I also can't see it with conqueror, the username folder05:07
[NL] Jazzdyn-86: how ary you able to use konqueror?05:08
tomislavvzduch: Hm... I know I get errors when running modprobe nvidia, can't remember which ones atm ;)05:08
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[NL] Jazzdyn-86: just navigate to your user's homedir05:08
CocytusUh. My /etc/hotplug is empty except for an "usb" folder. This is not right, is it?05:08
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dyn-86well right now i'm sorta on my desktop [NL] jazz, i just entered the recovery mode on boot05:08
dyn-86and gave it startx05:09
tomislavvzduch: In any case, the nvidia module doesn't seem to get loaded.05:09
dyn-86and now i'm sorta on my desktop...05:09
[NL] Jazzdyn-86: then go to your homedir05:09
dyn-86but the username folder doesen't appear05:09
dyn-86:-/05:09
[NL] Jazzand remove a big file:)05:09
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[NL] Jazzhuh?05:09
dyn-86all i have in /root05:09
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[NL] Jazzdo a "ls /home" in a terminal05:09
[NL] Jazz /root is the homefolder of the superuser (root)05:10
dyn-86i got back fritz...which is the username05:10
dyn-86of the folder05:10
[NL] Jazzyou have /homefritz?05:10
[NL] Jazzgo in there and remove a big file:)05:11
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tomislavHm... I'll try using the legacy drivers once again, maybe I messed something up.05:12
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dyn-86THNX EVERYONE05:13
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dyn-86:)it should work now. managed 2 delete some files and it should be ok, thnx pag &[NL] Jazz05:14
[NL] Jazzdyn-86: i understand it worked?05:14
dyn-86i managed 2 delete some files05:14
dyn-86so it should05:14
[NL] Jazzyeah ok05:14
dyn-86:)05:14
[NL] Jazznow try to do a normal login05:14
[NL] Jazz:)05:14
paghighd1, sorry that took me so long - I was eating; try this: cp .kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml Desktop/05:15
highd1i think I found a bookmark backup file that may work05:15
highd1But the reason for it is the problem with my video driver = HELP05:16
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tomislavJust to verify this one - using System Settings -> Monitor & Display IS the right way to switch to prop. drivers in Kubuntu, right?05:17
pagtomislav, well.. I'd use vim and xorg.cong, but that's a little hacky solution :P05:18
pagtomislav, kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorgf.conf  lets you edit the video proferences05:19
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tomislavpag: I don't mind manually editing if you know of something that'll help me :) I'm just trying to keep the system as clean as possible for my uncle (who'll maintain it later on)05:19
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tomislavWell, I'll be back in 2 minutes, trying to restart X server.05:20
[NL] Jazzis the channel #ubuntu-effects alive?05:20
pag[NL] Jazz, should be...05:20
[NL] Jazzdon't get reactions05:20
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fritz_pag, [NL] Jazz..it works...thnx again, it's kinda stupid though, not being able to log in 4 such a dumb reason, especially when all the download progs are default set to download stuff there05:21
[NL] Jazzah well05:21
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fritz_they shoud defineteley fix that ^.^05:22
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lontra[NL] Jazz: what's your question?05:22
[NL] Jazzlontra: its compiz-fusion and kde related05:22
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lontra[NL] Jazz: i might be able to help ...05:22
[NL] Jazzok well its slow on kde, while it worked perfectly on gnome05:23
pagfritz_, they should dispaly an error message more clearly. but that's the only thing that can be fixed in that situation05:23
[NL] Jazzbut i switched back to kubuntu, becouse is like it much more05:23
[NL] Jazzdo you know a solution? or the reason?05:24
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ksivaji!boss05:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about boss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:24
lontra[NL] Jazz: i know there are definitely some kde only related issues ... you could ask about this in #compiz-fusion ... i've only had good luck with emerald decos and not with the kde windecos which are apparently not available ... but the emerald decos seem to make it go faster05:24
[NL] Jazzah ok..05:24
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[NL] Jazzstrange thing is, wobbly windows are smooth05:25
[NL] Jazzbut expo and cube are laggy05:25
[NL] Jazzlike bad vsyncing05:25
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lontra[NL] Jazz: same here ... remember though it's still in development and it will certainly be quirky ... also it makes sense that it's more quirky on gnome as it seems to be the favoured desktop, imo05:26
[NL] Jazzhardware is not in question05:26
lontra[NL] Jazz: kde4 will bring us some nice kwin composite effects to challenge compiz-fusion ;)05:26
tomislavOk, I reinstalled the legacy drivers, and no luck. The nvidia module doesn't get loaded, and no idea why it is like that (no help from dmesg, /var/log/messages or X.org's log file. :/05:26
[NL] Jazzah ok05:26
[NL] Jazzgot to try kde4 kwin composite effects then!05:27
pagtomislav, well, do you have 'nvidia' set as a driver in xorg.conf?05:27
tomislavpag: Yup.05:27
gan|y|medhi05:28
gan|y|medis it possible that beryl would work fluently using xgl if there is no working 3d acceleration (so just the cpu is used)?05:28
tomislavgan|y|med: Haven't tried itm but I doubt it :)05:29
gruli doubt it :P i've had some problems installing ati drivers and i can't even render all those spiffy web 2.0-pages fluently05:29
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[NL] Jazzhey borizz05:31
borizzhi [NL] Jazz05:31
gan|y|medi have a strange problem with xgl. almost everything works fine, but dri is disabled. so i cannot use googleearth, for example05:31
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pcliphi05:31
pcliphow do i add a program so that it autostarts?05:31
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tomislavpclip: Create a symlink to it in ~/.kde/Autostart05:33
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pclipok thanks05:33
tomislavNp ;)05:33
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tzangerman konqueror/kontact seems to be a step BACK in kubuntu from what I had on slackware05:35
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tzangergmail worked fine in 3.5.505:35
tzangernot in kubuntu's 3.5.6 though05:35
pagtzanger, worked for me in 3.5.6 and 3.5.7  do you have fake user-agent set?05:36
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pclipwhat if something needs to be autostarted as root btw?05:36
tzangerpag: hmm... where did you get 3.5.7 for kubu ntu 7.04?05:36
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pagtzanger, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php05:37
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ses59_i installed a modem and wvdial works ok and now trying to use kppp but I do not know what settings to use read the kppp help site but still not working05:38
pagtzanger, I guess the requirments to run gmail are sun-java6-jer & fake useragent set as Mozilla FF05:38
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ses59_does someone know where a wiki might be with better step by step instruction to make kppp work05:39
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CocytusUh... My usb mouse have suddenly stopped working. according to syslog it is detected as a low speed device, but I dont know what happens after that. X at least does not see it.05:41
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dr_willisyea. at least i fixed my ati issues... :)05:45
dr_willisat last..05:45
dr_willis:)05:45
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mm_202Hey guys, quick Q, how can I change the actions of my Fn keys on my laptop?  (its an acer, like Fn-Up for vol, etcc)05:46
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dr_willisHmm.. Not sure. at one time i used that klinead (?) service/tool - but that may be outdated these days05:47
dr_willisI never use those keys anyway. so havent tried.. lets see if they work on my other laptop05:48
tomislavmm_202: Maybe under System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse?05:48
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dr_willisMy volume and mute buttons work.. :) lets see if the others do.05:49
dr_willisI never have figured out why the bother with the fancy keys like that.  i alwyas forget they even exist.05:49
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dr_williswowsers.. mine all seem to actually work...05:50
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dr_willisthe Zzzz one just kicked the laptop into sleep mode. :)05:50
dr_williswonder if it will wake up05:51
dr_williswow it does...05:52
dr_williswell i learned SOmthing new today. :)05:52
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dr_willisHmm.. suspend killed off networking. :(05:53
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mm_202dr_willis:  yes my functions keys work now, but for whatever reason, my Fn-Up/Down changes the volume of the PC Speaker, not of PCM, so basically its useless.05:58
mm_202And I've looked in Keyboard and Mouse.05:59
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vadiml1024hello, i m trying to install lates uvc-video from svn://svn.berlios.de/linux-uvc/linux-uvc/trunk06:01
vadiml1024and i get symbol version conflict, here is dmesg output:  http://paste.debian.net/3311706:02
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tzangerpag: there we go.  3.5.7 works with gmail06:03
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vadiml1024i'm running latest kubuntu....  any ideas please?06:03
pagtzanger, glad to hear that :)06:03
tzangerstill no news plugin in my kontact summary screen though, I wonder what I"m missing there.  I have knode and I can see rss feeds in the lefthand pane, so I think I've got everything06:03
tzangerpag: I'll email the 3.5.7 maintainer I think06:03
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tzangerthank you for your help!06:03
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jpnurmiwhere could i download the default desktop wallpaper from?06:04
ksivajikde.org06:05
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sveweckhe means the default Kubuntu wallpaper, not the default KDE one ;)06:05
ksivajikde-look.org06:05
pagjpnurmi, default for kde or kubuntu?06:05
jpnurmipag: kubuntu06:05
jpnurmisveweck: exactly ;)06:06
pagjpnurmi, Kubuntu one can be found in kubuntu-default-settings -source package (at least)06:06
jpnurmipag: ok, thanks06:06
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cookiewow ,so many people here06:08
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pagcookie, heh.. 4x more @ #ubuntu ;)06:09
lontrapag: 4x?06:09
lontrapag: maybe 3x ...06:09
paglontra, I'm not sure... I just looked, that here's ~300 and iirc they have ~120006:09
tomislavIt's official now - I hate NVidia...06:09
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lontrapag: 2.97x :)06:10
_Shade_hi there06:10
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paglontra, you counted? :D06:10
lontrapag: yup :)06:10
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cookiethis is my first come here ;P06:10
_Shade_how do i set the composite up so as to run it smooth?06:10
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lontra_Shade_: depends on the video card06:10
pagcookie, welcome. we hope you enjoy your stay :)06:11
cookiei like here ~06:11
_Shade_lontra: an old one :) it's gf2 mx44006:11
lontra_Shade_: that's nvidia right?06:12
cookieIs there anybody using laptop HP nx 6325?06:12
_Shade_lontra: right06:12
lontracookie: what do you need help with specifically?06:12
lontra_Shade_: beryl or compiz ... or compiz-fusion?06:12
_Shade_lontra: none of these, i just wanted to turn on transparency and stuff in my xorg.conf06:14
cookiemy laptop si HP nx6235  but i can't use the beryl ..Orz06:14
tomislavcookie: Did you install the proprietary drivers?06:14
tomislavWhoops, sorry, wrong conversation ;)06:14
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lontra_Shade_: oh ... well iirc correctly composite is enabled by defaulted ...scan xorg.conf and look at the bottom it should already be enabled06:15
lontra_Shade_: to get it to work in kde you need to just activate it in windows behaviour -> translucency06:15
cookieyes i install it ...my ati driver is ok~06:15
lontracookie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beryl/ATI/Feisty06:16
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lontracookie: you can only use XGL if i recall correctly with ATI06:16
_Shade_lontra: right but it runs very slow, and there was also a way to speed it up, i anly have to put something in my xorg.conf06:16
_Shade_render accel or something?06:16
lontra_Shade_: ah06:17
cookiethanks I will try it06:17
_Shade_!composite06:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:17
tomislav_Shade_: I could point you to some Gentoo wiki I used if you don't find anything else :)06:17
lontra_Shade_: from the ubuntu wiki ... If 3D acceleration still isn't working, be sure that you have the right version of linux-restricted-modules installed. It must match the version of the running kernel06:18
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_Shade_tomislav: sure... if you could... ? :)06:18
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jeremyqhellow06:18
jeremyqhellow06:18
jeremyqhello06:18
pag!hi | jeremyq06:18
ubotujeremyq: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:18
jeremyqthird time lucky06:18
tomislav_Shade_: let me check ;)06:19
jeremyqwas wondering if some could hepl me with a problem06:19
jeremyq?06:19
pagjeremyq, what kind of problem?06:19
jeremyqi upgraded from edgy eft to fiesty fawn.06:19
Dou1hey, I had vista, and kubuntu installed on my laptop running fine, but when i installed windows xp pro on my last partition last night and xp pro overrode everything and didn't allow me to choose which os i wanted on bootup like linux originally did.  so i deleted the partition with xp pro, then nothing would start up, so I repaired my vista installation with the disk, but now i can't get to kubuntu.  help?06:19
pag!grub | Dou106:20
ubotuDou1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:20
jeremyqand now when i use gmail and browse to put an attachment on an e-mail06:20
Dou1ubotu: thanks06:20
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)06:20
lontraDou1: you need to reinstall grub ... when you set up a dual or tri-boot system it's always best to install linux last06:20
jeremyqthe file list is just blocks06:20
tomislav_Shade_: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Beryl#Configuring_XOrg and http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_nVidia_GL_Desktop_Effects#Configuring_nVidia-drivers_and_X I think.06:20
jeremyqif that makes sense06:20
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_Shade_ok i have to reboot now, thanks06:20
cookieinstall your grub again.06:20
pagjeremyq, which browser?06:21
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jeremyqfirefox version 206:21
pagjeremyq, tried with konqueror already?06:21
Dou1thanks lontra and cookie06:21
jeremyqcould suggestion06:22
jeremyqi prefer to browse with firefox :-D06:22
jeremyqmaybe i could send a screen shot to explain what i mean06:22
pagjeremyq, I understand.. it just would be good to know, if the problem is firefox-only06:22
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pagjeremyq, don't send screenshots, upload them somewhere instead06:24
jeremyqworks in konqueror06:24
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jeremyqalthough the file browser in konqueror looks like it is a little different06:24
jeremyqokay06:24
lontrai always wonder why folks use ff in kde ... konqueror is one of the major reasons i use kde06:24
jeremyqjust dont know how to explain problem06:24
mind-shiftgod, kde is to bloated :)06:24
mind-shifto06:24
lontramind-shift: how?  explain?06:25
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mind-shiftit's too much small stuff everywhere06:25
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paglontra, firefox works better with ie. Web2.0 sites. It also has some extensions taht people might want06:25
tomislavlontra: We use the cursed extensions (that slow down Firefox terribly in my case...)06:25
draikHello all06:25
draikI still have not been able to mount my micro SD from my SD adapter. Anyone have any idea what I might be missing or doing wrong?06:26
jeremyqyes i agree i use the extensions06:26
jeremyqi have about 6 i use on a daily basis06:26
lontramind-shift: how's that bloat?  sounds like customizability ...06:26
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dr_willissd reader built into the laptop?06:26
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draikdr_willis: No. It's part of the desktop as an add-on06:27
cookieany I like firefox + gladder ,because I used it to visit www.blogspot.com and www.blogger.com . You know In China, you could't visit some web site on common ways06:27
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cookieYou must use proxy -3-06:27
dr_willisdraik,  so its a usb reader then? it so it 'should' show up as a sdX device. check dmesg befor/after plugging in the card06:27
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tomislavSo, if I can't modprobe nvidia successfully, what should I check first?06:28
lontratomislav: what's it tell you?06:28
draikdr_willis: Kinda. It's a 2-part reader. It can be used with the USB cable or docked into the 3.25" bay (which is internally USB connector).06:28
tomislavlontra: Nothing useful, to be honest. Nothing in dmesg either.06:29
lontratomislav: it returns nothing at all?06:29
cookieBye there ~06:29
tomislavlontra: Just a sec.06:29
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tomislavlontra: FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia06:30
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noobwell06:30
dr_willisdraik,  as long as its usb. it 'should' work.  try it with the usb cable externally yet?06:31
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lontratomislav: this may be useful ... http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=93008&page=206:31
draikdr_willis: Yes. Either way, it doesn't display. It a 12-in-1 reader. XD works just fine06:31
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dr_willisdraik,  checked dmesg output yet?06:33
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draikdr_willis: Yes06:33
draikI was just going to mention it06:33
lontratomislav: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/11947106:33
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tomislavlontra: But this is an older driver (since it's not supported by the latest NVidia's drivers). I guess I'm out of luck here :/ Already tried several suggestions available on the internet.06:33
dr_willisinteresting.. does it show it being inserted/removed?06:33
ksivajitell me any java development tool06:33
lontratomislav: oh06:33
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dr_willis!java06:34
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:34
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draikI did it without (No.txt) and with (Yes.txt) the reader plugged in, then did "diff No.txt Yes.txt >> diff.txt"06:34
tomislavlontra: Hm... That bug report looks "promising" :)06:34
dr_willisAre there not several ide's that work with java? never used them.. so cant say more06:34
DJ-KINGI have been trying to $sudo apt-get update and after fetching i get this message "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. " when i do the command provided , nothing happens at all06:34
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draikdr_willis: http://pastebin.ca/62873606:35
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babarhaqguys how to enable compiz in kubuntu ?06:35
lontra!compiz06:35
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:35
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DJ-KINGI have been trying to $sudo apt-get update and after fetching i get this message "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. " when i do the command provided , nothing happens at all06:37
dr_willisdraik,  those 'read error messages' seem interesting.. :) but my browser just crashed...06:37
tomislavWhat is this restricted manager?06:37
noobhow different will kde 4 be from 3.x? little, some, alot?06:37
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dr_willis!info restricted-manager06:37
uboturestricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB06:37
dr_willisnoob,  a lot i hear.06:37
lontranoob: it's a complete rewrite ... it's going to be quite a bit different06:37
lontranoob: 4.0 might not be but the 4.X series will certainly be06:37
BluesKaj!apt-fix06:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:37
nooboh ok06:37
tomislavOk, I read the description, but can it help me?06:38
lontranoob: kwin will have tons of features like beryl and compiz, plasma, oxygen, it'll be sweet06:38
dr_willisand they may even WORK! :)06:38
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draikdr_willis: Would you think it's a bad card or card reader?06:39
noobsounds nice, you think it will be the final punch that will knock out gnome?06:39
BluesKajheh, some ppl have absolutely no patience...instant gratification seems to be the attitude.06:39
lontranoob: no gnome will always be around and should be around imo06:39
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lontranoob: some people like simplicity and that's where gnome takes the cake06:39
noobyep guess so06:40
dr_willisdraik,  hard to tell.. try a different card..  try a different reader.. try a diferent usb slot.06:40
lontranoob: gnome makes things simple and elegant by default ... kde is so customizable it can look like anything06:40
dr_willisgnome - ' where do you want your hands tied today!'06:40
dr_willis:)06:40
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lontraafter using kde ... gnome makes me cry because of the lack of customizability06:41
tomislavlontra: Ok, that bug report helped me :) There was an orphan file ;) Thanks :)06:41
DragnslcrI don't think saying either Gnome or KDE is better than the other is really fair. It's entirely personal preference06:41
dr_willissome things i do in kde.. ive yet to figure out how to do in gnome. :)06:41
lontratomislav: really?  great!06:41
dr_willislike use the gui to make a link from a directory, to another...06:41
tomislavlontra: That is, I managed to modprobe the damned thing. Now off to restart X.org ;)06:42
lontraDragnslcr: i agree ... but kde is the desktop for me ... i've played with gnome a lot but always have to go back to kde06:42
lontratomislav: good luck06:42
dr_willis!info jwm06:42
ubotujwm: Very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-1 (feisty), package size 82 kB, installed size 268 kB06:42
draikdr_willis: usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -7106:42
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BluesKajDJ-KING,..try : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a06:43
Dragnslcrlontra- I actually haven't used Gnome in years, I think since the last time I installed Fedora06:43
SillyZq: wheres the config file for alsa/asound to define which card recives what 'index' or order they are defined ?06:43
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DragnslcrFesity is the first time I've really committed to using a Linux desktop06:43
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BluesKajgnome always looked foreign to me...being an old windows user :)06:44
draikdr_willis: Seems like I might have a bad card :(06:44
draikWell, the SD adapter anyway06:44
dr_willisdraik,  ive had a lot of bad cards lately.06:44
dr_willisthey are getting so cheap06:44
lontraDragnslcr: well just wait for Gutsy ... i'm already on it and the improvements have been quite drastic for me ... but some of my hardware wasn't working in feisty thus i figured i'd upgrade06:44
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noobis openoffice written in gtk or qt?06:44
draikdr_willis: How do you feel about Patriot (brand)?06:44
Dragnslcrlontra- good to hear. I definitely plan on upgrading in the fall06:44
pagnoob, neither iirc.06:44
noobfeels like gtk06:44
noobok06:45
DragnslcrHopefully KDE4 will be available in a repository for Gutsy06:45
BluesKajLinux does lack a decent scanning program tho ... kooka/sane kinda sucks06:45
dr_willisdraik,  ive heard they are decent. but ive had ALL the brands die on me lately06:45
KartiHi all, could someone remind me what the konsole command to test my 5:1 speaker system?06:45
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lontraDragnslcr: it's already there in Gutsy06:45
dr_willisBluesKaj,  vista lacks a decent scanning utulity also. :)06:45
ses59_rm -f /dev/modem; ln -s ttySHSF0 /dev/modem  I using this command to fix my modem that works under wvdial but get error -s part of command06:45
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ses59_can someone tell the correct command to do this06:46
draikdr_willis: I think I will return my Patriot for a Kingston06:46
lontraDragnslcr: kde4base - core applications for KDE 4 testing06:46
Dragnslcrlontra- actually, I think it's in Feisty too, now that I think about it06:46
DJ-KINGBluesKaj:  same thing dude ,  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a06:46
DJ-KINGSetting up kregexpeditor (3.5.2-0ubuntu8) ...06:46
noobthere are no good qt DC (direct connect) programs if I might complain a little myself :)06:46
DJ-KINGBluesKaj:  and it does nothing after that06:46
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lontraDragnslcr: first beta is due out in about 2 weeks ... i can't wait to see it.06:46
DragnslcrYeah, KDE4 is in Feisty's universe06:46
dr_willisdraik,  ive had both them die.. one of those brands have a lifetime warrenty i belive.06:47
BluesKajdr_willis, I had to reinstall windows XP due the lack of a really good scanning prog ...but I need it so windows does the job06:47
lontraDragnslcr: fedora 8 plans to ship kde4 as default06:47
DragnslcrI'm not sure if I want to try installing KDE4 yet or not. I'm trying not to completely break my desktop system too much06:47
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lontraDragnslcr: installing kde4 won't break your system ... it just may not work06:47
roltuxanybody good with bery;06:47
roltuxberyl06:47
BluesKajDJ-KING,make sure adept.,synaptic, apt in the terminal , all pkg mangers are closed06:48
vzduch!anyone | roltux06:48
uboturoltux: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?06:48
lontraDragnslcr: if it works for you great ... if not don't worry it won't break your system ... imo it's best to wait till the beta gets released anyways cause it's not very useful now06:48
DragnslcrOf course, I'm attempting to help out Kopete a bit, so I may have to install the beta anyway06:48
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draikdr_willis: Patriot has 5 years.06:48
roltuxoke, i want to enabe the desktop shadow in beryl like the apple desktop06:48
lontraroltux: two suggestions if you don't get help here ... 1.  #beryl   2.  #ubuntu-effects :)06:49
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nachoi good morning06:49
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roltuxjoin #ubuntu-effects06:49
nachoi have a question06:49
Dragnslcrlontra- know offhand if Gutsy is supposed to have Compiz Fusion in the standard repositories?06:49
nachoi install kubuntu06:49
lontraroltux: he he ... /j #ubuntu-effects06:49
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lontraDragnslcr: yup it's there06:49
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nachobut i try install apache206:50
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nachoSyntax error on line 189 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: No such file or directory06:50
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lontra!info compiz-fusion-plugins-main gutsy06:50
ubotucompiz-fusion-plugins-main: Collection of plugins from OpenCompositing for Compiz. In component main, is extra. Version 0.0.0+git20070711-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 364 kB, installed size 1584 kB06:50
nachothe pache2 file not exist06:50
lontraDragnslcr: it's in main so you know they are serious about it :)06:50
Dragnslcrlontra- nice. I've been using Trevino's repository, and it works fine for me, but I keep getting taunted for using it06:50
lontraDragnslcr: the only thing not in gutsy is emerald06:51
DragnslcrThat kinda sucks. I like Emerald06:51
draikTime to go card shopping06:51
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DragnslcrThe Blue Ray theme is shiny06:51
BluesKajNvidia draik ?06:52
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BluesKajoops06:52
lontraDragnslcr: maybe it'll be in gutsy who knows06:52
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DragnslcrKnow offhand what's going to replace it? Just the normal KDE and Gnome decorators?06:53
lontraDragnslcr: that's what it looks like in ubuntu right now06:54
DragnslcrMaybe this theme will get ported. I really like it06:54
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BluesKajwonder if KDE4 will be ready in time for the official gutsy release ?06:55
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DragnslcrI doubt it06:55
DragnslcrSupposed to both be in October06:55
dr_willisMessage from syslogd@laptop at Sat Jul 21 12:53:34 2007 ...laptop kernel: [ 3223.360000]  Critical temperature reached (128 C), shutting down.06:55
BluesKajyeah, kinda figgered06:55
dr_willisAnd the lapop isent even warm06:55
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lontraBluesKaj: it won't be default but it'll be in universe in gutsy06:56
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Dragnslcrdr_willis- definitely a bad sensor. Your laptop would explode at 128 C06:56
lontraBluesKaj: i'm sure Riddell et. al are sure to whip it up for kubuntu after it's release ... they do a great job at it06:56
necroi'm running kubuntu in vmware06:56
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BluesKajlontra, have you tried KDE4 ?06:56
jcku393sorry!06:57
lontraBluesKaj: yup ... opensuse's live kde4 cds and on fedora06:57
dr_willisDragnslcr,  yea. its odd.06:57
necrohow to try kde4?06:57
Q-IKi have problem with run cinelerra (video) - i've got error (core dumped) -could anyone help? ;] 06:57
BluesKajlontra, what's your verdict ?06:57
lontraBluesKaj: not much different now ... wait till the beta gets released in 2 weeks or so then we should see some real differences06:57
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lontraBluesKaj: it is going to be awesome however06:57
BluesKajok06:57
Dragnslcrdr_willis- if it really was that warm, you could cook on it06:57
dr_willislets see if it does it again06:57
lontraBluesKaj: we get our first sneak peak of plasma in alpha2 so i'm sure beta will be sweet06:58
dr_willisI got a FULL warrenty! ;)06:58
BluesKajbeta eh ...hmmm sounds interesting06:58
MinatakuHeya, dr_willis06:58
DragnslcrExplain to the clueless what Plasma is?06:58
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lontranecro: if you really want to ...06:58
lontra!kde406:58
ubotuFor information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org06:58
DragnslcrI haven't been keeping track of KDE4 stuff much06:58
MinatakuPlasma is the fourth phase of matter06:58
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BluesKajlontra, what about hardware any issues there ?06:59
MinatakuSolid, Liquid, Gas and Plasma :306:59
lontranecro: i believe it's in universe06:59
lontraBluesKaj: with kde4?  nah06:59
DragnslcrMinataku- I knew someone would pull that06:59
MinatakuHeehee06:59
lontraDragnslcr: plasma is the new desktop shell ... it's like superkaramba + kicker + kdesktop ... iirc06:59
MinatakuIt helped that I just walked in right now06:59
dr_willishow about the 5th!06:59
lontraDragnslcr: it's going to be sweet06:59
MinatakuNeutron Star?06:59
MinatakuI think that's supposedly the 5th06:59
BluesKajsuperkaramblah!07:00
DragnslcrCool. Isn't Superkaramba the desktop sidebar app?07:00
dr_willisOpera Browser ust crashed on me.. and cant even close it! weee!07:00
lontraDragnslcr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcmco2ixITw07:00
MinatakuWorld Cup of Softball? O.o07:01
dr_willisDragnslcr,  its worse then a sidebar in many ways. :)07:01
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DragnslcrHeh07:01
MinatakuWhat's up, dr_willis?07:01
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dr_willisMinataku,  work time.. in an hr.07:01
dr_willisMinataku,  guests are STILL here..07:01
MinatakuWitnessed a rare (and always unfortunate) red flag07:01
dr_willistheir mother has surgery next week.07:01
Minatakudr_willis: Yipe07:01
Kartianyone recommend or dispise autopackage?07:01
Minataku!autopackage07:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autopackage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:02
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dr_willisKarti,  proberly best to avoide it. but since it can isntall just for a single user.. its ok. :)07:02
dr_willistheres also that other way.. (klik?)07:02
MinatakuWell, there's no complaints so far in ubotu07:02
Minatakulol07:02
Minataku!klik07:02
ubotuklik is a simple way to run additional software without actually installing it. For instructions and more information see http://dot.kde.org/1126867980/07:02
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MinatakuI guess that one is accepted07:02
lontraDragnslcr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WBLlc6xCQ4&mode=related&search=07:02
dr_willisive had issues with both.. and successes with both.07:02
MinatakuWell, remember there's always...07:02
KartiI was just wanting to install xara xtreme but it also comes in packages07:02
Minataku!automatix07:02
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:02
lontraDragnslcr: that's for the new kwin compositng07:03
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CocytusI think i've found a bug. kubuntu 7.04: if my dell's "wlan kill switch" is on (ie wlan/bluetooth killed) during boot, "usbhid" dont get loaded even if a mouse is detected on the USB ports07:03
MinatakuThere's another very unrecommended one, too07:03
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dr_willis!windows07:03
dr_willis:)07:03
MinatakuCocytus: Attempt to start usbhid manually07:03
CocytusMinataku: hmm.. how :)07:03
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents07:03
MinatakuProbably sudo /etc/init.d/usbhid start07:03
Dragnslcrlontra- is kwin's compositing based on Compiz, or is it home grown?07:04
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MinatakuIf that fails, I dunno how to do it in *buntu07:04
lontraDragnslcr: no idea07:04
necrooffice 2007 is very good07:04
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CocytusMinataku: no usbhid there.07:04
MinatakuHm07:04
MinatakuDoes the mouse work anyway?07:05
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MinatakuCocytus?07:06
oldgrizzAs we say here in TX got er done (dual boot with vista and ubuntu 7.0407:07
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oldgrizz)07:07
CocytusMinataku: no.07:07
MinatakuCocytus: Hrm07:07
MinatakuI'm wondering what this "usbhid" nonsense is07:08
CocytusMinataku: Works after turning wlan/BT ON.07:08
MinatakuCocytus: Blame Dell07:08
MinatakuThey probably screwed something up07:08
CocytusMinataku: sorry: hci_usb and hiddev07:08
CocytusMinataku: with wlan enabled those two drivers are loaded07:08
MinatakuHrm07:08
MinatakuDependency error, perhaps07:08
MinatakuThere might be a goofup in the default configuration for module loading/dependencies07:09
MinatakuEither that or there's a hardware issue where the killswitch affects more than 802.11x07:09
BluesKajhey oldgrizz , glad to hear it :)07:09
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Cocytusit's config, pretty sure of it. mouse works fine in windows when wlan is disabled07:10
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MinatakuThen yeah, someone may have dropped the ball in setting up probably modprobe.conf07:10
CocytusMinataku: Hmm. I see Networkmanager does a lot of stuff related to hid.07:11
MinatakuFix is to repair the issue, workaround is to either have the switch on at boot or turn the switch on then back off if it has to be off07:11
noobwhy do I have to settings configuration programs?07:11
noobnever mind07:12
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oldgrizzone question though what is this easy BSD thing and where do I find it?07:12
lontraeasy BSD thing?07:12
shrimantshello, how do i format a drive in NTFS using kubuntu live disk with no GUI07:12
BluesKajeasy BCD 1.60 ...just google it07:13
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lontrashrimants: i think fdisk can format a drive in ntfs ...07:13
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oldgrizzI have to install BCD 1.6 from the windows side correct ?07:13
BluesKajoldgrizz, you have to install it on vista07:13
oldgrizzthat is what I thought07:14
BluesKajyup07:14
oldgrizzback in a while07:14
shrimantscrap my disk isnt even booting07:14
shrimantsit loaded everything and now its just a blank screen07:14
dr_willisuse the gparted tools?07:15
nachohi07:15
nachoi need help!!!07:15
nachoi install apache2, but httpd.conf not exist07:16
metbsdhehe07:16
metbsdmaybe you need to write your own?07:16
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shrimantshey the nvidia 8600m GT graphics card isnt supported is it07:17
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shrimantswhoop guess not07:17
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dr_willisshrimants,  ive heard of some issues with the newest nvidia cards. they might need the newer nvidia drivers - not in the repos yet.07:18
ERIK_LIMAHow do I install libdvdcss on Ubuntu? I need it to watch my Sepultura DVD07:18
dr_willis!dvdcss07:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:18
dr_willis!dvd07:18
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:18
ERIK_LIMAI found difficulties installing libdvdcss07:18
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dr_willisI just adeed the seveas repo and apt-get installed it.07:19
omeowHow do I stop users from being able to view each other's files?07:19
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ERIK_LIMAdr_willis: Hum... I should do the same...07:19
shrimantshow do i change directory07:19
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dr_williscd whatever07:20
dr_willistime to google for a few BASH tutorials. :)07:20
lontraERIK_LIMA: you might also try medibuntu repos07:20
lontra!medibuntu07:20
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org07:20
BluesKajshrimants, check k-menu/system settings/Monitor & Display/Hasrdware/ admin mode/graphics/configure , and look for the right driver that fits you card07:20
shrimantsi have no gui07:21
shrimantsand i dont want kde07:21
shrimantsi just want to clean format this disk07:21
dr_willisperhaps clarify what you are trying to do..07:21
dr_willisclean format, or clean 'fdisk' ?07:21
shrimantsclean format07:21
dr_willistotally delete all partitions?07:21
shrimantsyes exactly07:21
dr_willismkfs.XXXX /dev/whatever07:21
dr_willisThe 2 are NOT the same.. :)07:21
dr_willisdelete partitions with fdisk, or parted07:21
dr_willisfdisking is NOT formating07:21
dr_willislive cd + gparted is my fave way07:22
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shrimantshow do i tell what the device is07:22
shrimantsits not hda07:22
shrimantsits a sata hard drive07:22
dr_willissudo fdisk -l07:22
dr_willismost likely sda07:22
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shrimantsdidnt work07:23
shrimantsi mean sda worked07:23
shrimantsbut it says /dev/sda is entire device, not one partition07:23
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dr_willisthats correct..07:25
ERIK_LIMAGuys, I need a repository with the libdvdcss to add on my sources.list07:25
dr_willissda is the entire device. Not a partition07:25
dr_willissda1 would be a partitiuon07:25
lontraERIK_LIMA: i already told you one07:25
dr_willisyou fdisk a 'device' and make partitions.07:25
ERIK_LIMAlontra: I can't add the repository on my sources.list :(07:25
dr_willisERIK_LIMA,  edit the file with root permisisons07:26
lontraERIK_LIMA: why?07:26
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dr_willisor use the07:26
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dr_willis!easysource07:26
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:26
dr_willissite to make a sources.list and BACKUP your original. copy new one over.07:26
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dr_williswell bye all...07:26
ERIK_LIMAlontra: I need to write "deb" before http://www.ubuntu-nl and so on07:26
BluesKaj!libdvdcss207:27
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:27
tomislavNow, what was it that you typed to get some info from the bot?07:27
tomislav!beryl07:27
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects07:27
ERIK_LIMAlontra: I tried to add new repositories on my sources.list, but I even see an error message07:27
lontraERIK_LIMA: ok pastebin your errors and your /etc/apt/sources.lst07:28
lontra!paste07:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:28
BluesKajERIK_LIMA, read above , libdvdcss2!07:28
BluesKaj!sources.list07:29
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:29
omeowHow do I stop users from being able to view/change each other's files?07:30
tomislavYou need to change the permissions of a file.07:30
KartiQuick one  - should I install normal Beagle or Kerry Beagle for Kubuntu?07:30
lontraKarti: kerry07:31
ERIK_LIMABluesKaj: Give me a time. It's appear to be working now :D I'm finally running apt-get update with the new repository07:31
Kartior does it not matter?07:31
lontraKarti: kerry is the kde-frontend to beagle07:31
ERIK_LIMAOh, no!! Somethings wrong!!07:31
omeowtomislav, a file? Any file?07:31
Kartilontra: many thanks.... ;)07:31
lontraKarti: np ... enjoy the cute icon07:31
Kartilontra: yes...damn those qute puppies ;)07:32
ERIK_LIMATheres error trying to download from  http://www.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackage/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found07:32
shrimantshey what does cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes mean07:32
shrimantsnothing that concerns me?07:32
lontraERIK_LIMA: i'd remove Seaveas Package and use Medibuntu instead07:32
shrimantssda1 seems to be working07:32
ERIK_LIMAlontra: the last line of my sources.list is like this07:33
ERIK_LIMAdeb http://www.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackage is this correct??07:33
lontraERIK_LIMA: yes ... but as i said, i'd recommend removing Seaveas and adding instead Medibuntu ... the 404 error means the server is offline07:34
ERIK_LIMAlontra: So, How do you did that? :/ I'm not understanding...07:34
lontraERIK_LIMA: first follow the directions at the medibuntu website07:34
lontra!medibuntu07:35
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org07:35
lontraERIK_LIMA: click the repository tab and copy and paste what it says for feisty into a terminal07:35
lontraERIK_LIMA: after that ... sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the line about Seveas Repository07:35
ERIK_LIMALet me try...07:36
lontraERIK_LIMA: alternative you might think about using automatix or easybuntu07:36
lontra!automatix07:36
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:36
lontraoh nevermind ...07:36
lontra!easybuntu07:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easybuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:36
Admiral_Chicagolontra: you are looking for easyubuntu07:37
Admiral_Chicago!easyubuntu07:37
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu07:37
ERIK_LIMAlontra: Another error message :(07:37
Admiral_Chicagolontra: i don't suggest anyone use easyubuntu or automatix ever07:37
ERIK_LIMAFail to download from http://www.mediubuntu.org07:37
lontraERIK_LIMA: pastebin your error /etc/apt/sources.list07:38
ERIK_LIMAlontra: How is your sources.list?07:38
lontraERIK_LIMA: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list so i can help07:38
lontraERIK_LIMA: at pastebin.ca07:38
lontraERIK_LIMA: mine will look different than yours as i'm not on feisty07:39
BluesKaj!source-o-matic07:39
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:39
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BluesKajaltho sourc0matic still contains some seveas repos07:39
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Bizzehhey, is there any way of listing, durin the install, what grub's hd*'s are mapped too what /dev/*'s07:40
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ERIK_LIMAhttp://pastebin.ca/628796 This is my sources.list07:41
ERIK_LIMASee the end of file and see what's wrong07:42
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ERIK_LIMAlontra: So, How do I cann add the required repository??07:45
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BluesKajERIK_LIMA, that space in front of the http on the last repository has to be closed up07:47
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BluesKajit should look like this : deb http://www.mediubuntu.org feisty universe07:47
vzduchs/mediubuntu/medibuntu/07:48
ERIK_LIMABluesKaj: OK. Let me see what's happen now...07:48
BluesKajand the #in front of the previous debs should be removed07:48
noobcrap, I'm going back to ubuntu :)07:49
lontraERIK_LIMA: it should look like this ...  deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free07:49
lontraERIK_LIMA: not to be a jerk but did you actually read this ... http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php07:49
noobkde looks great and the programs are much cooler, but I'm a minimalistic person07:49
lontraERIK_LIMA: it tells you how to add it07:49
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BluesKajok noob , then back to yer minimalistic corner :)07:50
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BluesKajmethinks simplistic is prolly a better word07:51
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lontraBluesKaj: or stupid07:51
BluesKaj:)07:51
lontrajust kidding07:51
BluesKajyup :)07:51
mimikanyone use xchat and its dcc?07:52
lontra!anyone07:52
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:52
ERIK_LIMAError message: "Not possible to solve http://packages.mediubuntu.org07:52
lontraERIK_LIMA: paste your new source.list ... are you following the direction?07:52
BluesKajxchat is ok but it's a bit strange on linux07:52
Bizzehis there any way of listing, durin the install, what grub's hd*'s are mapped too what /dev/*'s07:53
ERIK_LIMAI will floow right now. Give me time for now...07:53
lontraBluesKaj: really?  are you sure you're not thinking of another irc client07:53
mimikblueskaj: reallly? what irc client would you suggest for linux? i thought it was written for linux07:53
lontraERIK_LIMA: fyi ... it's medibuntu not mediubuntu07:53
BluesKajyeah it was , and it still sucks07:54
lontramimik: i think orginially ... xchat is a fine client imo07:54
BluesKaj!konversation07:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:54
vzduchXChat was quite good till one of the early 2.4 versions.. then they changed some things07:54
mimikmeh. konversation needs more work07:55
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zerohey07:55
zerowhen i open adept it doesnt show applications that i dont have installed07:55
zeroand shows some that i cant click07:55
BluesKajwell, lontra , it's a matter of taste , I guess ...never cared for xchat07:55
ERIK_LIMAOh, no! I wrote wrong!!07:56
zeroanyone?07:56
ses59_i am running command sudo rm -f /dev/modem; ln -s ttySHSF0 /dev/modem and get permission denided after entering the the password why is that07:56
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ses59_what should i do to get the command to work07:56
lontrases59_: you probably need another sudo before ln?07:56
zerocan anyone help me plz?07:56
mimikzero: when i open adept, i see packages, not applications07:56
ses59_sudo i thought would work07:56
zeroi cant see the packages that are not installed07:57
ses59_ok will try sudo rm -f /dev/modem; sudo ln -s ttySHSF0 /dev/modem07:57
zeroit worked before but now i reinstalled it and i cant see any packages to install07:57
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ERIK_LIMAImpossible!! The error persists!! "Cannot solve"07:57
BluesKajzero, look the options 'show and 'with' and check the boxes07:58
ERIK_LIMAWhat?? Wait!! It's works!! Finally I installed the libdvdcss2!! :D07:58
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zerothere are no options07:59
ERIK_LIMAThanks very much! ;)07:59
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zerojust shortcuts configurations07:59
ERIK_LIMAI see you later07:59
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BluesKajzero , beside thew show and with boxes?07:59
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zerowhat do you mean?08:00
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zeroi have the problem at adept installer08:00
mimikzero: KMenu > System > Adept Manager?08:00
zerono08:00
zeroKMenu > Add/Remove Programs08:01
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mimikzero: heh, you installed everything?08:01
zeronot adept manager but adept installer(apt-get)08:01
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zeroi dont know08:02
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zerojust what the distro installed automatically08:02
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zero:S08:02
zeroand when i find something i want to install08:02
zeroit is grey08:02
zeroand i cant click it08:02
zero:(08:02
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zerowhat should i do? :(08:04
mimikim pretty sure apt-get is adept manager not adept installer08:04
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zeroidk08:04
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zeroit cant see anything08:05
zerowhat should i do?08:05
zeronobody else that can help?08:05
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vbgunzI have an issue that is really frustrating... I have two users on the system. one keeps getting logged out a while after *just* locking the system... whats up? anyone know what can cause this?08:05
vbgunzlocking the system == locking his account08:06
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kblin_hi08:06
tomislavOk, finally got the nvidia module + beryl working. Thanks for all the help ;)08:06
tomislav!beryl08:06
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects08:06
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kblin_I'm currently trying to install kubuntu 7.04 on my laptop replacing the current system. However, that's set up to use LVM, and it seems like the kubuntu installer can't do that. Any way to keep my partition layout (so I get to keep my /home data)?08:07
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kblin_oh, d'oh, looks like I need the alternate CD08:09
Bizzehis there any way of listing, durin the install, what grub's hd*'s are mapped too what /dev/*'s08:09
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dhq how do i direct the traffic of eth0 --> wlan008:12
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vbgunzdoes anyone have the slightest idea as to what can cause a locked account to log out by itself?08:15
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rjbargh, my ethernet connection no longer works after installing feisty08:16
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rjbi get loads of  NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out08:17
rjbfollowed by  eth0: Transmit timeout, status 00000004 0000024908:18
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brad_would it be easy to run daemon tools in WINE/can someone recommend a good piece of virtual cd rom drive software?08:18
rjbfunny thing is eth0 worked for a while, up to the 2d or 3rd reboot08:19
BluesKajvirtual cdrom drive software ? or do you mean running something with an iso xtn ?...usually VLC will run iso media files08:20
brad_essentially to be able to mount a game cd and have it read as if it were just physically inserted08:20
rjb..now i got only wireless working, heh08:21
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vzduchbrad_: Linux has this capability by default08:21
brad_crazy08:21
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vzduchread 'man mount' for more information08:22
BluesKajbrad try, kiso08:22
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brad_!man mount08:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about man mount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:23
BluesKaj!mount08:23
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter08:23
vzduchbrad_: in a terminal on your PC08:23
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rjbso, is my card broken, or is it the driver?08:26
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rjbany ideas?08:26
Bizzehis there any way of listing, durin the install, what grub's hd*'s are mapped too what /dev/*'s08:26
malik__how to enable desktop effects in kubuntu fiesty?08:27
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brad_yeah this Kiso program isnt what I want at all08:29
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BluesKajBizzeh, the decision to which partitions an install goes is decided when you chose the ext for the OS .. kubuntu won't install on ntfs for example08:29
BizzehBlack5un: you didnt read what i said08:30
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Bizzehwhen grub uses hd0,0 as disk 0 partition 008:30
malik__how to enable desktop effects in kubuntu fiesty?08:30
rjbanyone know a doc about enabling suspend to disk? i tried pretty hard to find something, but nada08:30
Bizzehie, /dev/hda108:30
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Bizzehhow do i list these mappings?08:30
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BluesKajthey will be listed in system settings or if you do a sudo fdisk -l  in the terminal08:32
Bizzehthat just lists all /dev/hd*08:33
Bizzehnothing at all to do with grub's mappings08:33
BluesKajkdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst08:34
Bizzehon the boot cd?08:34
Bizzehdurin install?08:34
Bizzehso i can find out where to put grub08:34
BluesKajnope08:34
Bizzehthen again, you didnt read what i wrote08:34
Bizzehnevermind, im gonna grab openbsd, this is why i dont bother with linux, it has the worst support of anything ever08:35
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BluesKajkubuntu will put grub by defautlt on the first block of the HDD08:35
DragnslcrRiiight08:35
BluesKajwhat a jerk08:35
BluesKajdoesn't know how to ask a question08:35
BluesKajmapping grub?08:36
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BluesKajwth is that08:36
DragnslcrI think he wanted to be able to see what OS's grub already knows about when he's installing08:37
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BluesKajnever heard of that08:37
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DragnslcrAnd because during the ten minutes he was in #kubuntu, nobody knew the answer, Linux has "the worst support of anything ever"08:38
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DragnslcrWhich really makes me wonder about him, since he apparently thinks that Kubuntu is all of Linux08:38
BluesKajhe's been in and out since early this morning , Dragnslcr08:38
BluesKajasked the same question several times ...if he would have worded it so we could understand what he wanted , but instead of pewrhaps rephrasing  it to clarify , no he just kept repeating it over and over08:40
DragnslcrI still don't think it beats the person in here yesterday complaining about Ubuntu not having ports08:40
BluesKajhehe... wow ..there's only 64000 or some such08:41
vzduchlol.. no, not network ports.. ports as in BSD ports08:41
BluesKajok, repos08:42
StoneNewtI think he wanted to know what drives grub considered as hd0 hd1 etc08:43
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StoneNewtwhich isn't necerrly the order that fdisk -l orders them08:44
BluesKajthe unix guys think they are the PURE ONES in the world of OS's08:44
vzduchReactOS.. no wonder he has no clue ;)08:44
DragnslcrBluesKaj- no, not repositories, ports08:45
DragnslcrBluesKaj- she (or so they claimed) was very insistent that she wasn't talking about repositories08:45
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BluesKajwell, the ports for BSD apps are repos basically08:46
BluesKajsemantics08:46
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DragnslcrNot even the source .deb's were what she wante08:47
Dragnslcrwanted08:47
DragnslcrIf you can figure it out, congratulations, because nobody else could08:47
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JazzRabbitExcuse me, Anyone who speak spanish?08:48
Barbanyone knows how to execute a command in irc on startup?08:48
Dragnslcr!es08:48
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:48
DragnslcrBarb- what IRC client?08:49
JazzRabbitthanks08:49
Barbin my case its Konversation08:49
Barbirc program08:49
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BluesKajBarb, a lot of us use Konversation ...what's the command ?08:50
DragnslcrDunno offhand. I know it has options for connecting on startup, joining channels, and identifying with nickserv08:50
Barb./msg Q@CServe.quakenet.org AUTH Nickname password08:50
DragnslcrNot sure about arbitrary commands08:50
DragnslcrYeah, there's an option for that08:51
vzduchQuakeNet.. *omfg*08:51
Barb:p08:51
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BluesKajvzduch, been a while since I chatted there ...there were some audio guys who had a chat there for a while08:52
Barb[20:51]  <Dragnslcr> Yeah, there's an option for that <------- please tell me :)08:53
StoneNewthttp://i8.tinypic.com/6czhk3o.png08:53
DragnslcrHeh, was hoping someone else knew. Let me start up Konversation08:53
vzduchI was in a university channel there for a while.. but it grew out to an excuse for idling08:53
rjbneed some help with ethernet, could someone hint me of a possible reason for NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out08:53
StoneNewtusing the beryl in the ubuntu repros when ever I spec dialog transparency that happens.08:53
StoneNewtDoes anyone have an experience with beryl or something simlar?08:54
ardchoilleStoneNewt: Perhaps join #ubuntu-effects08:54
DragnslcrBarb- Server List -> (select a network) -> Edit -> Edit Identity08:54
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Kjellvizhi all =)08:54
DragnslcrBarb- there's an Auto Identify option there08:55
Kjellvizanyone here got WoW running in Wine on Kubuntu ?08:55
StoneNewtardchoille: thanks08:55
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BluesKajBarb , IIRC ,looks like you need to register you nick and password , but i'm pretty sure it has to be done the website, then they send you a link that lets you in the first time to the IRC channel08:55
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miles!WoW08:56
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org08:56
Barbthis is the command after registering08:56
miles!WoW | kjellviz08:56
ubotukjellviz: please see above08:56
vzduchBluesKaj: besides, afaik, QuakeNet is still the network of the 31337 g4m0rz and uber1337 h4xx0rz ;)08:56
milesomg i luv to pwn teh no0b hax0rz!08:56
vzduchhrhr08:56
Kjellvizmiles: what are you trying to say ?08:57
Barbanyone pwns n00b hax0rs08:57
milesthat no0bz r teh lam0rz08:57
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Kjellvizim gonna repeat my question; does anyone run WoW in Wine on Kubuntu here? (and feel like answering a few quick quiestions?)08:58
miles!WoW | kjellviz08:58
ubotukjellviz: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org08:58
Kjellvizmiles: stop telling me what i know and let people answer my question08:58
Kjellvizmiles: ive already got wow running on ubuntu08:58
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vzduchwell, you didn't yet ask an actual question :P08:58
milesjeez!08:58
Kjellvizmiles: i just want to talk to someone running it on kubuntu08:58
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ubuntu__hello08:59
Kjellvizyes i did, i asked if someone are running wow in wine on kubuntu here08:59
BluesKajI quote from  www.quakenet.org "QuakeNet does not use a nickname reservation service, such as NickServ"08:59
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ardchoilleStoneNewt: You're welcome :)09:00
ses59_i can not make kppp work on fiesty but wvdial does and i am setting it up for someone that used win98 so need a short cut on desktop to run wvdial how can i do that?09:00
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ubuntu__Should i upgrade my KDE 3.6.6 to KDE 3.6.7 on Feisty?09:00
ardchoilleses59_: You should be able to right click the desktop and choose "shortcut or some such. use the binary name of wvdial as the command.09:01
BluesKajubuntu__, sure09:01
sveweckubuntu__: it's tedious to do and can lead to some small problems, but it would generally improve your usage, yeah09:01
vzduchubuntu__: if you find a KDE 3.6.7 source let me know ;)09:02
ses59_ok will do that that thank you did not think about making my own icon09:02
ardchoilleubuntu__: kde 3.6.6 doesn't come with Feisty, did you upgrade your kde already?09:02
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ubuntu__i reinstalled it today and it comes with kde 3.6.6 out of the box :X09:03
ubuntu__lol 3.5.609:03
ubuntu__dho09:03
BarbDragnslcr !!  found it  tried it works ok    thx m809:03
ardchoilleubuntu__: Ithought so ;)09:03
ubuntu__ok is it risky to upgrade the desktop envionement?09:04
StoneNewtardchoille: but no one is home :( hehe09:04
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Dragnslcrubuntu_- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php09:04
ardchoilleStoneNewt: :(09:04
BluesKajhttp://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/3.5.7/09:04
ardchoilleStoneNewt: Well, if no one answers there or here, you might try http://ubuntuforums.org09:05
ubuntu__thanks09:05
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BarbDragnslcr thx again and bye bye09:05
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Kjellvizgetting wow to run in wine on kubuntu, should that involve any other obstacles/problems/steps than on ubuntu ?  (im asking cos ive had it up and running 3 times on ubuntu, but i could not get it right when i tried kubuntu)09:07
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ubuntu__re09:11
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ubuntu__is here someone who uses gusty?09:12
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n8k99ubuntu__: yes09:12
n8k99but you probable want to join #ubuntu+109:12
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ubuntu__on VM or on the harddisc?09:12
ubuntu__thanks09:13
ubuntu__for the channel09:13
n8k99you are welcome09:13
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michael-3142how can you tell what window manager you are running, kdm or gdm?09:19
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robotgeekmichael-3142: what did you install, Ubuntu or Kubuntu?09:20
michael-3142robotgeek: kubuntu but the kids installed the gnome desktop and I do not know what windows manager they choose.09:21
robotgeekokay. what do you see on the start menu?09:22
michael-3142robotgeek: what do you mean?09:22
robotgeekwell, you can tell which one by looking at the where the Dock is: is it at the top or bottom?09:23
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michael-3142robotgeek: what is the Dock you are referring to.09:24
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michael-3142robotgeek: where the menu bars are located.09:24
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robotgeekmichael-3142: at either the top or the bottom09:25
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michael-3142robotgeek: it is at the bottom and has a large K in the left hand side09:25
robotgeekmichael-3142: okay, you are running KDE then09:25
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michael-3142robotgeek: so is gdm on the the system and when would it be used or called ?09:26
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BluesKajmichael-3142, lookin either synaptic or adept to se what's installed by typing in either gdm or kdm09:27
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underdog5004I've looked in the man page, but I can't figure it out. How can I get tar to not follow symlinks?09:27
michael-3142robotgeek: Does running KDE mean you are running KDM too?09:27
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BluesKajnormally yes, michael-314209:28
robotgeekmichael-3142: not necessarily09:28
michael-3142robotgeek: How do I get kdm back as the default window manager?09:28
BluesKajmichael-3142, did you check in adept or synaptic ?09:28
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robotgeekmichael-3142: you can check by going to your process monitor: K-Menu -> System -> KSysGuard09:29
michael-3142BluesKaj: check for what, I did not see in either what is the default window manager.09:29
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BluesKajkdm or gdm09:29
robotgeekmichael-3142: kdm/gdm are not your window managers.09:30
robotgeekmichael-3142: you can use either to login into gnome or kde09:30
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michael-3142robotgeek: I do not understand09:30
vzduchkdm and gdm are the graphical login managers09:31
michael-3142BluesKaj: where in sysguard do I look09:31
robotgeekmichael-3142: you can have multiple Desktop environments installed. like gnome, kde, fluxbox, etc etc. gdm/kdm help you to log in to either one of them.09:31
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robotgeekif you have multiple desktop environments installed, that is!09:32
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michael-3142robotgeek: it says I am running KDM.   which is good09:32
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robotgeekmichael-3142: yeah, either one does not matter, really.09:32
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michael-3142not really some of the program from school I have use kdm call's09:33
michael-3142and do not work with gdm as window's manager09:33
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rjbmichael-3142: neither kdm nor gdm are window managers09:34
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rjb(oh sorry it's just been said before)09:35
BluesKajthe desktop environment is either KDE or Gnome ...  i think that's what you are talking about michael-3142, not window manager  ...I am I correct ?09:35
michael-3142rjb: what are they then?09:35
rjbdm stands for display manager09:35
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rjbtheir task is to allow the user to login and to start up her session09:35
BluesKajI have to admit it is a bit confusing alright09:36
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michael-3142then why do the program for the physic's dept fail if gdm is loaded and work if kdm is loaded.09:36
rjbonce either kde or gnome is up & running the display manager has nothing left to do09:36
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rjbuntil she logs out09:37
BluesKajKubuntu(KDE) , michael-3142, that's why , not ubuntu (gnome=gdm)09:37
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michael-3142second question is how close to debian is ubuntu or kubuntu?09:38
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underdog5004pretty close09:38
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underdog5004most debian packages work on ubuntu09:38
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StErGi0shello.i got a problem with sound.when i boot the laptop sound works fine for some time but after some hours it doesnt play and i have to reboot.is there any way to figure out what is going wrong?09:39
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michael-3142where can I get different voices for festival or kmouth?09:41
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Search4Lancermy /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/ disappeared!09:43
Search4Lancerand now I can't set the speed of it because of it09:43
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ardchoillemichael-3142: It's not a good idea to use other distro packages on ubuntu09:43
ardchoille!worksforme09:43
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.09:43
michael-3142thank you for all the information on kdm and gdm09:43
michael-3142I am looking for different voice files for kmouth because I can not talk any more.09:45
robotgeekStErGi0s: not sure, but instead of rebooting, you might want to restart alsa services09:45
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StErGi0srobotgeek: how do i do that?im pretty new to linux09:46
robotgeekStErGi0s: well, i only know how to do it via command line, "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"09:47
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StErGi0srobotgeek: it worked.thank you..i should now find a way to fix it though09:50
BluesKajStErGi0s, in the k-menu/system settings/sound system/hardware /selectaudio device/adavanced linux sound architecture09:50
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StErGi0sBluesKaj: thanks.ill try and hope it gets fixed09:52
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rolando_hi09:56
ardchoillehi09:56
rolando_where is the option to tell kubuntu when to suspend or hibernate?09:57
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rolando_because under power management i can only tell when to turn the screen of09:57
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Schuenemannhow can I set a window to stay in front of other specific windows (not all of them) ?10:00
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rolando_i want my laptop to suspend when i close it10:04
rolando_how can i do that?10:04
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southafrikansehow can I see my terminal log?10:04
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Search4Lanceralright, this is getting rediculous, I magically have no CPU, so I can't regulate the speed of the CPU, so I keep overheating10:07
rolando_southafrikanse: history10:07
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ardchoille!bash10:08
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:08
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draikHow do I access my winxp partition through Linux using VMware?10:13
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TheBigHipdoes anyone know how to load ncurses onto ubuntu?10:24
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lo_pescofido you try apt-get ?10:25
fairesHow do I install a .deb file?10:25
fairesWhich program should I use?10:25
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TheBigHipI don't seem to know how to use apt -get10:27
lo_pescofifor faires : rigth clik on file and chose : something like kubuntu package menu10:27
faireslo_pescofi: Thanks a lot! :)10:28
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lo_pescofiFor Bighip you are on ubuntu ?10:28
TheBigHipyea, not kubuntu10:28
TheBigHipThis was the only channel that came up when I loaded up konversation10:29
lo_pescofiyou want to load or install ncurse ?10:29
TheBigHipinstall i believe, something I am trying to install requires nucurses libraries10:29
DJ-KINGthat's what i get now when i do $sudo apt-get update "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem"10:30
DJ-KINGand when i do 'dpkg --configure -a' nothing happens at all10:31
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lo_pescofior try with Synaptic or Adep Package manager10:31
TheBigHipwhat exactly is ncurses?10:33
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lo_pescofincurse : This package contains what should be a reasonable subset of terminal definitions, including: ansi, dumb, linux, rxvt, screen, sun, vt100,vt102, vt220, vt52, and xterm.10:34
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lo_pescofiand this package contains the programs used for manipulating the terminfo database and individual terminfo entries, as well as some programs for resetting terminals and such.10:35
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TheBigHipawsome I think I just installed it using this: sudo aptitude install ncurses-dev10:35
lo_pescofiBigHif do you know synaptic ?10:36
TheBigHipno10:36
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lo_pescofiIt's more aesy to use for install packages10:37
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draiklo_pescofi: I don't know. I don't think anything beats CLI10:37
draikIMO10:37
TheBigHipIm using the default pakage manger from 7.0410:38
oldgrizzdone the install want to change the default keyboard.  found where but does not save when I exit. When I restart it goes to the old default.  How do I set a new default keyboard?10:38
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lo_pescofiSorry draik i don't understand what you said (I'm french ...)10:39
oldgrizzhow do I save changes to the preferences ?10:40
k3ysomeone's german in here? :)10:40
correiacybersex 5 dollars10:40
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lo_pescofiI just said to BigHip I use synaptic (graphic pakage manager) It's like Adep Manager.  With that it's easy to install or understand which package do ...10:42
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ubuntuHello10:45
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gymvideohow are you?10:45
k3yanybody know how to mount my nokia6280?!10:45
gymvideoI have the same phone :o10:45
k3yand how u managed it?10:46
TheBigHipyea I used synaptic and it said that ncurses was already installed, guess i just have to figure out how to get the make command to recognise its location10:46
gymvideoI didn't managed it at all10:46
k3yim using kmobiletools in i can dial numbers and look into the phonebook ... but i cant put mp3s or vids or anything on it10:46
ardchoille!alternatives10:46
ubotuTo change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.10:46
gymvideoI'm installing kubuntu right now10:47
gymvideoHope its stable10:47
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gymvideoto k3y, try here http://tuxmobil.org/phones_linux_nokia_other.html10:48
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froudanyone using skype 1.4 beta and able to use skype-rec to record?10:50
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WhtWolfTeraDyneTheBigHip: Are you trying to compile somethign to use ncurses?10:52
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vltHello. I want to watch a dvd with xine. When starting I got "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable". So I installed the missing library to enable it. Now I get "libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD access ... libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB (0x00013fa6)!!". Any idea what's the problem here?10:53
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ardchoille!libdvdcss | vlt10:55
ubotuvlt: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs10:55
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ardchoillevlt: Keep in mind, not ALL dvd's will be able to be read with libdvdcss210:55
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creatounhi.  anyone know where the package repo is on the web?11:01
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ardchoillecreatoun: Can you elaborate a bit?11:03
creatounarchive.ubuntu.com?11:03
ardchoillecreatoun: Your /etc/apt/sources.list file lists url's to some repos11:03
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ardchoillecreatoun: um.. that's it.. http://archive.ubuntu.com11:03
creatouni'm on win.  i need to download certain packages first to have my network up.11:03
ardchoillecreatoun: Well, you're going to run into trouble because most packages need deps, you can't just download a single package and expect it to work without dependencies.. this is what a package manager is for, to resolve deps.11:05
creatounoh yes i can.11:05
creatounyes i can.11:05
ardchoilleok11:05
creatounwell, it's a simple app.  dhcpcd, though i can't find it on the webpage.11:05
draikWhat does the Mobile Tools app do?11:05
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creatounnm found it.11:06
fribuntuHi all11:06
ardchoille!info dhcpcd11:06
ubotudhcpcd: DHCP client for automatically configuring IPv4 networking. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.0.3-1 (feisty), package size 49 kB, installed size 176 kB11:06
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fribuntuCan someone tell me how to either disable the spellchecker in Konqueror or set it to the right language? I am confused by all the red text I get with the wrong language setting.11:07
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creatounardchoille: do you know if the 'universe' is default to feisty or gutsy?11:07
creatounardchoille: in 'pool'.11:07
wilmanhey guys11:07
AscendedDanielhello11:07
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ardchoillecreatoun: all releases have a universe repo, but universe isn't default to any release., it's "extra"11:07
ardchoillecreatoun: You on Feisty?11:08
creatounardchoille: yes, i'm about to install it.11:08
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vltardchoille: "Not ALL dvds"? Can you explain?11:09
wilmani have some files which are root owned. i want to change the permission to my own user but i have no idea how to change the permission. i can go to properties/ permision but i can't change anything because iam not root on the moment11:09
ardchoillevlt: Well, you found one that libdvdcss2 can't decrypt ;)11:09
creatounardchoille: asta.11:09
ardchoillewilman: If these are system files, it's a bad idea to change their owner/group11:10
ardchoillewilman: What are you trying to accomplish?11:10
ardchoille!sudo | wilman11:10
ubotuwilman: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:10
AscendedDanielI have a problem with my monitor set up. When I come back after the screen saver has been active for a while, the windows on one screen are too wide and other monitor does not function. The problem is usually fixed by logging out and back in again. Any ideas on how to make it stop?11:10
vltardchoille: Does that mean I won't be able to watch it?11:11
wilmanit are no system files11:11
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ardchoillevlt: Looks like it11:11
ardchoillewilman: You can use sudo with the chown command to change owner/group11:11
wilmanardchoille: they are no system files i accidanticly used root to open a package and now the files are root owned and i can't delete them11:12
ardchoille!sudo | wilman11:12
ubotuwilman: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:12
wilmanyes but i don't know how to change permisions in the command line11:14
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ardchoillesudo chown <owner>:<group> filename    where <owner> and <group> need to be changed to your needs11:15
ardchoilleman chown11:15
amnesiachi folks11:15
ardchoilleamnesiac: cool nick11:15
ardchoille:)11:15
AscendedDanielhello amnesiac11:15
amnesiacthx11:15
amnesiachi ascended--D11:16
ardchoillewilman: Or you can use kdesu with konqueror to have a root enabled file manager window  (but be careful with it)11:16
ardchoille!kdesu | wilman11:16
ubotuwilman: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo11:16
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amnesiacheavy stuff for an evening11:17
amnesiaclol11:17
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AscendedDanielI think I messed up my system by installing beryl (could be something else though). How would I reinstall just the window manager parts of the system? Right now I'm thinking the easist way would to just reformat the hd and install fresh.11:18
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dystopianrayAscendedDaniel: in what way is it messed up?11:19
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wilmanardchoille: thx for the help, kdesu worked11:19
AscendedDanielWhen I get back after the screen saver has been active, sometimes one of my monitors doesn't come back and the windows on the other monitor are extra wide.11:19
ardchoillewilman: You're welcome :)11:19
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dystopianrayAscendedDaniel: this only occurs with beryl?11:20
amnesiacdamn when you fuc*--k it up with beryl i know only one solution11:20
amnesiacreinstall11:20
AscendedDanielno, beryl is gone11:20
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amnesiac:11:21
AscendedDanielI think it messed some stuff up11:21
dystopianrayAscendedDaniel: it only occured after you installed beryl?11:21
AscendedDanielyes11:21
AscendedDanielBeryl totally seemed like a good idea at the time...11:21
amnesiacyesberyl is a nice thing when you get it to work11:21
dystopianrayAscendedDaniel: did you have to modify your xorg.conf to use beryl?11:21
amnesiaci tried the looking glas11:21
hienajest tu kto z polski11:21
hiena?11:22
AscendedDanielI don't remember editing it for beryl11:22
amnesiacno polski in here dude11:22
AscendedDanielthe nvidia settings manager did edit it though11:22
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AscendedDanielfor dual monitors and multi-button mouse, etc11:22
hienafuckin polish people11:23
amnesiachahahahaha there also people dude peace out11:23
oldgrizzhow does one change the default keyboard config.  I can change the keyboard config but I need to make the new one the default.11:23
amnesiachahaha11:23
dystopianrayoldgrizz: set it in xorg.conf11:24
hienahow can I remapper keyboard?11:24
amnesiacput your keyboard config above on the list then it will be chozen as default i think11:24
rjb!pl11:25
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl11:25
AscendedDanielI've pretty much decided to reinstall, but I would prefer not to have reinstall everything11:25
amnesiacnice going ubotu hahaha11:25
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AscendedDanielI think it will be faster than fixing this weird problem down11:25
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oldgrizzdystopianray: Im a newbie to linux how do I do that ?11:27
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AscendedDanielwould apt-get --purge remove kde && apt-get install kde work?11:27
myrtillehi there, would anyone have a sec to help me with a little problem i seem to be having with konversation?11:27
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amnesiacthat is possible asendenddaniel11:28
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dystopianrayoldgrizz: you want the keyboard setting to be the default for all users?11:28
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amnesiacshoot myrtille11:28
AscendedDanielI might want to add it a autoremove in there11:28
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AscendedDaniel*add in11:29
myrtillei'm trying to connect to an ssl secured server, which seems to have an unvalid ssh-license...11:29
myrtillehow can i get knoversation to accept this sshlicense?11:29
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oldgrizzdystopianray: yes I do11:29
myrtille(at least i think that's the problem ;))11:29
AscendedDanielalright, we'll I'll try that and see if that fixes it. Anything else I should purge?11:29
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dystopianrayoldgrizz: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf in a text editor and you can change the keyboard layout settings11:30
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amnesiaci think it will work asendeddaniel11:32
AscendedDanieloldgrizz: don't forget to make a backup first11:32
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AscendedDanielamnesiac: thanks. I'll be back in a while to let you guys know11:32
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amnesiaci am awake hahahaha11:32
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amnesiacdont know it wolf11:34
WhtWolfTeraDyne?11:34
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oldgrizzAscended: there is not a place to click a button in the gui like for printers ?11:35
harrisonany help with a printer error?11:35
amnesiacno i had the wrong  chat window sorry whtwolf11:35
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harrisoncan someone help me get my printer to print?11:35
AscendedDanieloldgrizz: sorry, I'm not quite sure what you mean11:35
dystopianrayoldgrizz: kde allows you to set the keymap for your user11:35
WhtWolfTeraDyneamnesiac: no problem11:35
harrisonit's an epson Stylus R30011:35
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oldgrizzdystopianray: then I can adjust it in the user manager ?11:36
amnesiacharrison: tried to install the printer under new printers??11:37
froudanyone able to use skype-rec with skype 1.411:37
harrisonyeah, the test page fails every time11:37
dystopianrayoldgrizz: 'regional and language' in system settings11:37
draikHow do I access my winxp partition through Linux using VMware?11:37
draikThe winxp partition is local (same hdd)11:38
dystopianraydraik: you want to boot winxp inside vmware?11:38
amnesiacdamn have to go boss is watching11:38
amnesiac hahahahahahaha bey11:38
draikdystopianray: Yes11:38
draikamnesiac: Good luck11:38
dystopianraydraik: I don't think windows is capable of surviving such a significant hardware change11:38
ChousukeIt is11:39
harrisonDepens on if it is OEM or retail11:39
draikdystopianray: Hardware change?11:39
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dystopianraydraik: vmware's virtual hardware11:40
draikI remember reading about it a while back, but I lost interest with winxp, but now I realized that I kinda need it11:40
draikKubuntu won't recognize/sync with my cell phone11:40
harrisonany help getting my Epson R300 to print? it fails the test page, and I'm not sure the driver works correctly11:41
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myrtilleit was actually a lurking blank in the serveradress that caused the problem :)11:45
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heroi've been using synaptic and apt-get to get upgraded packages. in adept-manager, how do you get it to show you the packages that can be upgraded?11:46
herothe upgrade tool says there are 24 packages to be upgraded, but adept-manager doesn't11:47
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nvman90Hey, so I just installed tribe 3 and I'm having some really wierd problems. When I switch to a terminal ctrl+alt+F1 my monitors get disconnected and just go into standby mode12:03
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nvman90I don't know if they are related but when I boot I have to add the vga=791 and splash=silent to my boot string in grub12:04
dystopianraynvman90: #ubuntu+112:04
nvman90otherwise I just get a black screen12:04
ardchoillenvman90: join #ubuntu+112:04
nvman90ok12:04
nvman90thanks12:04
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milesUptime: 19 hours and  minutes12:05
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milesUptime: 19 hours and 1 minutes12:05
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milesQt: 3.3.712:05
milesKDE: 3.5.612:05
mileskde-config: 1.012:05
milesword12:05
milessorry12:05
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DARKGuyHey, is there a workaround for KDE when you close session with Beryl activated, where the desktop icons get moved and appear in other positions when logging back in? like, it doesn't save the icon positions :(12:07
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dystopianraythe workaround is to not use beryl12:08
DARKGuy...12:08
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mileslaff12:08
DARKGuyI don't want to be rude but let's say I didn't read that ...12:08
AcEhow do you extract a bunch of zip files in the current directory?12:08
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miles!!12:09
milesclear12:09
dystopianrayAcE: for x in *.zip ; do unzip $x ; done12:09
dystopianrayDARKGuy: beryl doesn't integrate properly with kde, issues like that are to be expected12:10
DARKGuydystopianray: but I don't think this is a recent bug... =/12:10
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