=== Jedusor [n=Jedusor@41.208.164.160] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:25] mathiaz: thanks for the list, I'll assign them right now [12:25] stgraber: thanks [12:26] stgraber: is there any admin interface ? [12:31] mathiaz: not yet === ati_user_ [n=ati_user@dslb-084-060-254-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yaromaster [n=yaromast@CPE-75-86-207-250.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yaromaster [n=yaromast@CPE-75-86-207-250.wi.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:00] mjg59: can you please review the patch in bug #127276 ? [01:00] Launchpad bug 127276 in laptop-mode-tools "laptop-mode init script links not created (dup-of: 127273)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127276 [01:00] Launchpad bug 127273 in laptop-mode-tools "laptop-mode init script links not created" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127273 [01:03] laptop-mode is going away [01:04] mjg59: good to know! === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] mjg59: do you think the patch would be valid for those using laptop-mode in Feisty? [01:05] laptop-mode is an error [01:06] it slipped into Feisty though... === eggauah [n=daniel@201.82.27.173] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:10] Oh, and various earlier releases [01:10] The best we can hope for is that it never manages to turn itself on [01:11] It's default off in /etc/default so that should be no problem. [01:12] Is laptop-mode-tools also scheduled for removal? Is it now replaced by ubuntu-laptop-mode? [01:12] Will it be demoted into Universe? In which case it should be patched. 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I remember there was some discussion on the wiki at one time about putting the /etc/ folder (and potentially others) under revision control, either bzr or svn. I've found a userspace filesystem, called wayback, that allows for keeping a history of files... Does anyone else think that this may be a good idea, assuming that someone [me] can implement it? [07:26] thunderbolt: I've played with versioning the entire /etc with bzr [07:26] it worked marginally except for some permissions mishandling sometimes [07:26] jdong: worked marginally? [07:27] I find it smarter to selectively version things [07:27] thunderbolt: yeah... [07:27] thunderbolt: bzr and svn both create dot directories [07:27] like .bzr or .svn [07:27] Ah. [07:27] and some scripts go BALLISTIC over that [07:27] Yes, that's right. [07:27] and not just that... [07:27] sometimes when reverting, things go back with wrong permissions [07:27] Eep. [07:27] yeah... [07:27] That's really not good. [07:27] it did get a bit nasty [07:27] but I do it for some specific things [07:28] like my /etc/acpi is under bzr === thunderbolt nods [07:28] because I find myself hacking my acpi-support a lot [07:28] and it doesn't seem to get bothered by .bzr [07:28] Cool. [07:28] apache's a good choice too [07:28] basically anything that took time for you to write, and you continue to tweak :) [07:28] don't version the entire /etc [07:29] because you have to deal with things like /etc/gconf [07:29] which seem to change with every other package upgrade :D [07:29] Hehe [07:29] The other feature I was looking into was something like VMS's holding history of files, for like a users home directory. [07:30] ah [07:30] I think some LVM-ish snapshot magic is probably your best bet for that [07:30] LVM? [07:30] Logical Volume Manager [07:30] Ah [07:30] amongst other things, it allows you to take snapshots of devices === thunderbolt nods [07:31] and they only take up space as content diverges [07:31] so you can basically snapshot your /home every night [07:31] and save those snapshots [07:31] and purge 30-day-old snapshots... [07:31] Right. [07:31] to maintain reasonable space [07:31] then you can at least recover 30 days back should your users request it === thunderbolt nods [07:32] I still think it would be nice to have a backup, at least for a while, whenever a file is saved, but I guessed that's handled by application level undo, right? [07:33] right [07:33] I've seen some userland filesystem overlays that promise these kinds of features [07:33] but remember that those things probably make you worse off anyway [07:33] just because they haven't had rugged testing [07:33] Yeah, that was my concern. I've looked at FUSE and Wayback, which is built on FUSE. [07:33] it'd be a really awful twist of fate if your backup mechanism caused data loss :D [07:34] Yes, definitely. [07:36] Hmm, one of those nice things to have if we had infinite resources and time, right? [07:38] yeah, certainly :) [07:38] backup solutions are tough... very few resources on how to do it properly [07:38] and one of the sketchiest things to experiment with :) [07:39] as I said before, I'd recommend version control for /etc and investigating LVM snapshots for /home === thunderbolt nods [07:39] Thanks a ton, jdong! [07:39] no prob [07:40] Currently I'm using backuppc for my users home directories, it's kind like the snapshots, but uses rsync. [07:41] right [07:41] that works too [07:41] but it tends to have higher overhead [07:42] i.e. slower to run, takes up more space [07:42] Yeah, definitely, I also use it to backup some windows PCs. [07:42] yeah, that's the advantage of a FS-level backup [07:42] I also didn't know about LVM until you told me about it :) === thunderbolt nods === micahcowan [n=micah@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:908b:a5d8:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee waves === Jedusor [n=Jedusor@41.208.136.63] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:44] asac: can you please have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/112818, [09:44] Launchpad bug 112818 in firefox "wrong pkgconfig dependencies break builds" [High,Confirmed] === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:01] siretart: yes firefox-nspr and firefox-nss.pc should become links to nspr.pc and nss.pc [10:02] ... or should be completely dropped === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@ubuntu/member/mrpouit] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lutin [n=Lutin@ubuntu/member/lutin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Sp4rKy [n=Sp4rKy@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bashelier [n=arthur@dunnewind.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@frnk-590c46c9.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blowfish [n=thijsbur@athedsl-12660.home.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:29] hi === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blowfish [n=thijsbur@athedsl-12660.home.otenet.gr] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-27-73.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [n=gman@host217-36-47-145.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-c4265762f772041e] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra_ [n=zdra@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ScottK [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44_ [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === infinity [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zerbero__2 [n=jga@pD9E62287.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@145.Red-83-56-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@145.Red-83-56-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@17-153.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blueyed [n=daniel@i5387DFCB.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-148.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === phanatic [n=phanatic@212.2.21.2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180069060.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wattazoum [n=wattazou@ant06-1-82-242-110-34.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:16] hi [01:17] need a little help on a very basic question : is there a way, in python, looking at a directory, to see if a file inside has changed ? [01:18] well that's OS dependent [01:18] wattazoum: Yes, but this isn't the place to ask :) [01:19] I used "lstat()" and looked at st_mtime but it seems this doesn't change [01:19] but in the os module you should be able to do a stat on all files and grab the mtime [01:19] oh wow, totally not the channel I thought i was in === Spads reorders his irssi channel numbers === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:19] RAOF : in which place should I ? [01:20] wattazoum: try #python [01:20] wattazoum: Well, possibly ##python? [01:20] #python [01:20] I can't go there ( I lost my nickname password and can't identify :'( ) [01:20] wattazoum: For an Ubuntu responce, check out the source of Specto, which has a file/folder watch [01:20] RAOF : Cool [01:21] i'll lok at it [01:21] look [01:21] NP [01:21] <_wattazoum_> Thank you very much === cassidy_ [n=cassidy@81.187.73.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:36] <_wattazoum_> RAOF : just for info, I have looked at the specto code and it does exactely what I would have liked to avoid. watching every last file inside [01:36] <_wattazoum_> I guess I have no choice then [01:36] <_wattazoum_> :) [01:37] If you only care about notifications when your program is running, and don't mind being linux-only, inotify is really easy in python. [01:41] <_wattazoum_> well, I actuallly use it :-) , It was just for a matter of performance ( I am developing a backup software and this was to check if I could skip the whole dir when it didn't changed ) . 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[05:19] all eaten. [05:19] not useful, need help === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:20] jdub: seriously though, it's the weekend. and ubuntulive [05:21] and my plane has been delayed, and i need to get a message through === jdub has a fair amount of understanding of the context of his question [05:21] who to? 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[10:31] Kmos: you do it :P [10:31] lol [10:31] :) [10:31] what's ddclient [10:31] a dyndns thing? [10:31] yes [10:31] u've done the last backport [10:31] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ddclient [10:32] http://sharkattack.media.mit.edu/inventory/check_builds/28 [10:32] ok, building [10:33] jdong: that was fast :) thanks [10:33] jdong: One thing I've been thinking about for Dapper is if we could backport dpkg from Edgy to Dapper we could save a LOT of source backports. [10:33] ScottK: is that remotely safe? [10:33] jdong: I have no idea. [10:33] I think it needs some discussion. [10:34] ScottK: I'd be willing to do it if it were safe [10:34] jdong: SUCCESS [10:34] :) [10:34] Kmos: cool [10:35] Kmos: can you test the packages? [10:35] IIRC it ships with an init script which could've changed [10:35] jdong: I think we need to discuss it with some of the core developers during the week. [10:35] it should work fine [10:35] but i can test it [10:35] Kmos: I don't like hearing should :) [10:35] should != does [10:35] i've running the gutsy version on my feisty [10:35] with no problems [10:35] that's enough ? :) [10:36] Kmos: ok good enough... [10:36] :) === phlaegel [n=phlaegel@S01060016b619a773.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:37] jdong: thx [10:38] Kmos: bug 127430 [10:38] Launchpad bug 127430 in feisty-backports "backport ddclient" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127430 [10:38] jdong: nice :) [10:39] thanks [10:39] yay sharkattack :) [10:41] i assigned the bug to you [10:41] no problem ? [10:41] no need to assign [10:41] it's done [10:41] :) [10:41] archive admins are subscribed [10:41] yeah [10:41] but you do the work :P [10:46] jdong: http://sharkattack.media.mit.edu/inventory/view_log/32 [10:46] mmm? [10:47] firefox grandparadiso [10:47] yeah [10:47] it builds properly [10:47] but takes a few hours [10:47] it was 0 in # builds [10:47] right [10:47] i clicked in queue [10:47] I purged out stale builds last night [10:47] :) [10:47] I restarted the builder during testing while it was building [10:48] ah, that's the problem [10:48] that builder really needs some ionice loving [10:49] pkg-source: applying ./firefox-granparadiso_3.0~alpha5-0ubuntu2.diff.gz [10:49] Fetched 34.5MB in 23s (1475kB/s) [10:49] cat: write error: Broken pipe [10:49] cat: write error: Broken pipe [10:49] cat: write error: Broken pipe [10:49] cat: write error: Broken pipe [10:49] cat: write error: Broken pipe [10:49] that's normal [10:49] dch warning: new version (3.0~alpha5-0ubuntu2~7.04prevu1) is less than [10:49] the current version number (3.0~alpha5-0ubuntu2). [10:49] ah ok [10:49] stop pasting that :) [10:49] ok [10:49] the way it grabs version numbers from the changelog [10:49] it closes stdout before cat is done [10:50] :) [10:50] yay to hackish code :) === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === a-865 [n=fmcz@user-142grmk.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:12] can gutsy be installed to a partition above #15 ? === Jedusor [n=Jedusor@41.208.164.213] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:23] The ext3 filesystem creation in partition #19 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) failed. === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === martinp23 [n=martin@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ryu2 [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sliasaid [n=sliasaid@h8922070244.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ryu2 is now known as ryu