[02:08] <alindeman> Expect more attacks
[02:08] <alindeman> I'm trying to quell them before they make it to channels
[02:08] <nalioth> lovely
[02:09] <jdong> is it party time?
[02:11] <nalioth> clone swarms now trumpeting potter details
[02:11] <nalioth> or not, but still being troublesome
[02:12] <mc44> jrib: see Grigory's last part message too
[02:13] <jdong> GRR WTF
[02:13] <jdong> someone posted a sudo worm on UbuntuForums.org
[02:13] <jdong> GRR
[02:13] <jrib> mc44: how nice
[02:14] <mc44> jdong: a worm!? on leenux?!
[02:14] <jdong> mc44: sudo phish
[02:14] <nalioth> mc44: it's not funny
[02:15] <mc44> nalioth: i've just never seen one before
[02:15] <nalioth> mc44: it's called "social engineering"
[02:15] <mc44> ooh
[02:15] <mc44> that kind
[02:15] <nalioth> mc44: it's not a linux worm, it's a user psychology worm
[02:16] <jdong> yeah, phishing worm...
[02:20] <jdong> ah, ok, jailed and user PM'ed...
[02:20] <jdong> back to dinner
[02:32] <jdong> does ircnick "derekson_" ring a bell with anyone?
[02:32] <nalioth> nope
[02:33] <jdong> interesting
[02:33] <jdong> mmkay I'll play with him for a bit longer then
[02:37] <jdong> wtf little bugger is !ops-ing for someone to kick him....
[02:37] <jdong> meh if hey says so...
[02:47] <Tm_P> hu?
[12:10] <effie_jayx> The IRC council reserves the right to remove idlers from the channel <--- cool :D
[12:11] <effie_jayx> that last line makes me not "idle"
[12:11] <effie_jayx> :D
[12:11] <PriceChild> hehe wonder what brought about that line *looks at logs*
[12:23] <jenda> effie_jayx: you've been idle for over 5 minutes...
[12:23] <jenda> you're exposing yourself to grave dangers :)
[12:23] <effie_jayx> no no no please nooo
[12:24] <effie_jayx> jenda,  besides LongPointyStick  is sleeping...
[12:26] <jenda> :)
[12:33] <elkbuntu> actually, LongPointyStick is at work
[12:34] <effie_jayx> well that's better :D
[12:35] <effie_jayx> I just hope I don't get a delayed DOOM (tm)
[12:35] <PriceChild> LongPointyStick, never sleeps
[12:44] <stefg> some user kos is trolling in #ubuntu, asking for Suse-cd's . People are inexperienced enough to fall for the bait, so 'i'd vot for a kick
[12:44] <PriceChild> grr he asked again after i told him not to...
[12:45] <stefg> he's a troll
[12:45] <PriceChild> *deals with it*
[12:47] <PriceChild> he's spamming #suse and #opensuse-chat with it too
[01:23] <jenda> elkbuntu: it's hard for us to estimate when aussies do what - all we know is that it's always waaay off from what we'd expect :)
[01:24] <elkbuntu> lol
[01:24] <elkbuntu> she's a supermarket gopher. she gets stuck with stupid shifts
[01:24] <jenda> yikes
[01:24] <PriceChild> I wish I could be a supermarket gopher :(
[01:24] <PriceChild> no-one wants to employ me :(
[01:25] <jenda> PriceChild: I would consider employing you if I hadn't already hired tsmithe ;)
[01:25] <PriceChild> fire him! :P
[01:25] <jenda> But it's a no-good job anyway ;)
[01:25] <jenda> hehe
[01:25] <PriceChild> I'm sure i'll find something
[01:25] <PriceChild> I've got lots lined up for this time next year....
[01:26] <elkbuntu> someone needs to give me a damn job too
[01:26] <PriceChild> elkbuntu, give me the job of finding you a job
[01:26] <PriceChild> we all end up happy?
[01:26] <elkbuntu> ok. it pays $0.
[01:26] <PriceChild> is travel included thoguh?
[01:27] <elkbuntu> unfortunately no.
[01:49] <PriceChild> Hey harrisony, can I help?
[03:35] <stefg> spammer IxBrad[AFK]  needs a ban
[03:36] <Hobbsee> done
[03:51] <GazzaK> mc44 needs a ban too
[06:21] <PriceChild> MikeRotch just joined #ubuntu :s
[06:25] <jenda> PriceChild: hahah :)
[07:19] <PriceChild> *is talking to metbsd...*
[07:22] <Jordan_U> Troll in #Ubuntu
[07:23] <elkbuntu> Jordan_U, already dealt with
[07:23] <Jordan_U> Yup, saw that, thank you
[07:23] <elkbuntu> Jordan_U, if you see an op talking while there's a troll around, there's no need to divert our attnetions to here
[08:43] <jenda> tsmithe!
[08:43] <tsmithe> aha jenda
[08:43] <jenda> oops, wrong channel, let's move to #ubuntuforums :)
[08:43] <GazzaK> jenda, 
[08:49] <jenda> 
[10:33] <jdong> guys ubunut is back
[10:33] <jdong> llook in -motu
[10:33] <jdong> !ftp factoid...
[10:35] <PriceChild> grr
[10:36] <jdong> can't we block the last octet of him?
[10:36] <jdong> I doubt he can switch his octect that quickly
[10:37] <PriceChild> Hobbsee's the only one online in the channel and she's asleep...
[10:37] <PriceChild> oh wait she has no access anyway
[10:38] <PriceChild> jdong, poke jenda :)
[10:38] <jdong> jenda jenda jenda!
[10:38] <jdong> lol
[10:38] <GazzaK> can I poke him?
[10:39] <jdong> GazzaK: not in the backports though
[10:39] <GazzaK> lol
[10:40] <jdong> haha
[10:40] <jdong> that's futile unless you block 18.0.0.0/8 :D
[10:47] <jenda> hmm?
[10:47] <jenda> jdong, PriceChild
[10:47] <jdong> jenda: block ubunut by any means necessary
[10:48] <jdong> 16:33 < jdong> !ftp
[10:48] <jdong> 16:33 < ubunut> ftp://meklort.isa-geek.com user:star + pass:star
[10:48] <jdong> 16:33 < ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror,  !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:48] <jdong> 16:33 < jdong> the fsck...
[10:48] <jenda> what's he doing?
[10:48] <jdong> it's the same spambot from yesterday
[10:48] <jenda> oh
[10:48] <jenda> ok
[10:48] <jdong> also goes by geem
[10:49] <PriceChild> jdong, he's not a bot
[10:49] <jdong> PriceChild: he's not much of a human either
[10:49] <jdong> PriceChild: he responds to !ftp instantly...
[10:49] <jdong> identically each time
[10:50] <jdong> so at least it's a human-bot android hybrid
[10:50] <PriceChild> he has a script loaded in his client
[10:51] <jenda> I believe it's called a cyborg ;)
[10:51] <nalioth> has he/it spoken in -motu, jdong PriceChild ?
[10:51] <jdong> 15:52 < geem> those bastards
[10:51] <jdong> something like that :)
[10:52] <nalioth> has he/it talked in the last few minutes?
[10:52] <PriceChild> nalioth, jdong's !ftp triggered it. He was around yesterday, went into +1 after it was mentioned here, trolled, then didn't take it too well when we wouldn't unban immediately from #ubuntu after that.
[10:52] <nalioth> right
[10:52] <GazzaK> send him to me, i'll sort him out
[10:52] <jdong> GazzaK: he's not into backports either.
[10:53] <GazzaK> meh
[10:53] <nalioth> GazzaK: i can show you where he went
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[10:53] <PriceChild> jdong, !
[10:54] <jdong> I love you too :)
[10:54] <nalioth> y'all let me know if ubunut comes back
[10:54] <jdong> ure thing
[11:28] <PriceChild> Anyone around wanting to help suggest what to add to the irc operator guidelines? (Re: message on ubuntu-irc list)
[11:30] <nalioth> i think the guidelines are fine
[11:30] <PriceChild> I know, and so do I... but the CC are not going to budge on this.
[11:30] <nalioth> i think that harsher penalties need to be asessed on 'those who take things into their own hands'
[11:30] <nalioth> adding stuff like they want to the above, belittles those of us with sense
[11:31] <PriceChild> I think the reason the guidelines didn't work/go into effect last time because there was no governance structure, not because they were defective.
[11:34] <PriceChild> I tried summing up the existing guidelines, including operator & coc, quoting to explain how they should ward against "nasty" behaviour but they're not having it... they need something in these guidelines to be happy and give a +1
[11:35] <nalioth> i don't think what they're wanting belongs on the guidelines
[11:35] <nalioth> because it is already there
[11:35] <PriceChild> That's my opinion too.
[11:36] <PriceChild> With all due respect, these point all refer to existing guidelines.
[11:36] <PriceChild> The only reason we're having this discussion is because a previous
[11:36] <PriceChild> incident involving Ubuntu IRCops has demonstrated that the existing
[11:36] <PriceChild> guidelines, de facto, are not sufficient.
[11:36] <PriceChild> - james troup
[11:37] <nalioth> is he ever on irc, PriceChild ?
[11:37] <PriceChild> elmo
[11:37] <PriceChild> lots
[11:37] <PriceChild> he's away atm
[11:37] <PriceChild> mark then seconded the reply an hour later
[11:37] <nalioth> perhaps we should have a discussion with him
[11:38] <PriceChild> I suppose that could be a lot more productive than me trying to sum up all our thoughts in slow emails
[11:39] <PriceChild> writing these emails i've been very anxious, hoping that I am putting across what "we" think.
[11:40] <PriceChild> (anyone else around with thoughts?)
[11:40] <mc44> you could put "Dont do anything Seveas wouldn't" in the guidelines, but that probably wouldn't help :D
[11:41] <PriceChild> (anyone else around [minus mc44]  with thoughts?)
[11:41] <mc44> :P
[11:44] <PriceChild> I should have started poking whilst elkbuntu was still awake, will keep poking tomorrow morning over thoughts, and where's Ljl been :S
[11:44] <harrisony> morning all, anything real interesting i missed last night? any killer bots attack, ##windows was flodded last night. Any of that carry over here
[11:44] <PriceChild> nalioth, Do you want me to try to get hold of elmo and sort out a little meeting for us to discuss then?
[11:45] <PriceChild> (us being whoever's interested in participating)
[12:22] <nalioth> PriceChild: if you like
[12:23] <nalioth> poke seveas
[12:23] <PriceChild> hmmm i must've missed him signing off
[12:23] <PriceChild> is he back for good or was that just another quick hi?
[12:24] <PriceChild> I think I remember him saying he was flying off somewhere... anyway will poke elmo