[12:01] <BadMoFo> Q: just switched from AGP card to onboard AGP video (both are nvidia geforce4), now i get no 3D, i have enabled restricted drivers, i am on feisty
[12:01] <moomin1> ok.. still trying to get heartbeat... (http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/admin/heartbeat) .. I have this in my sources.list which i believe should give me access ?? (deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse) .. no joy though
[12:01] <Kevin4381> how well does ubuntu handle a slew of new hardware all at once? :)
[12:01] <Kevin4381> I'm probably going to be getting a new mb/cpu/ram/video card ...
[12:02] <jrib> moomin1: heartbeat is in main
[12:02] <raf256> hello
[12:02] <raf256> why does ubuntu sucks about uninstalling software?
[12:02] <Theory> it does?
[12:02] <raf256> yes
[12:02] <moomin1> jrib: so should this do it (deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted) ?
[12:02] <zerokill88> who knows what package this is  libgtk-1.2.so.0 ??
[12:02] <raf256> big time
[12:02] <jrib> raf256: I'm not sure what you mean.  You just right click -> remove software in synaptic
[12:02] <compengi> raf256, what do you mean by "sucks"
[12:02] <raf256> in example: apt-get remove --purge apache2 fails to remove /etc/apache2
[12:03] <jrib> moomin1: yes
[12:03] <moomin1> it doesnt though cuz i have that :/
[12:03] <Theory> raf256: why is this a problem?
[12:03] <alecw1> can anyone help me set up my wifi card for the Latitude D630? I've tried numerous tutorials, but it doesn't work. I have an ipw3945... help!
[12:03] <jrib> zerokill88: not offhand, but packages.ubuntu.com will let you search package contents for that file
[12:03] <khatuido> someone can help me to set my wifi i cannot keep it more long than the synchronised mode
[12:03] <khatuido> ?
[12:03] <chattr> none helps me :(
[12:03] <zerokill88> jrib ok thanks
[12:03] <compengi> raf256, did you try it with sudo?
[12:03] <chris__> I am not able to give my user write access to an smbfs mount, only my root account can write to it
[12:03] <raf256> Theory: because I wanted it to totally freaking remove stupid apache2 _and_ its config
[12:03] <moomin1> i dont need to do anything after updating my sources.list do i? ie its not cached ?
[12:03] <dzer0> yaromaster: you figure it out?
[12:03] <Theory> so delete the folder?
[12:03] <jrib> raf256: apache2 doesn't own those files.  It's probably apache2.2-common or soemthing
[12:03] <raf256> compengi: Im advanced user
[12:03] <raf256> jrib: and that is the bug
[12:04] <Cris> Hay ewerybody.
[12:04] <jrib> moomin1: 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:04] <BadMoFo> can anyone help me
[12:04] <moomin1> yes.. i tried logged in as root too
[12:04] <raf256> jrib: it should also remove apache2.2-common while removing apache2, duhg
[12:04] <compengi> raf256, are you logged in as a root in your terminal?
[12:04] <jrib> raf256: aptitude will do that, or use 'apt-get autoremove'
[12:04] <zerokill88> jrib can you check out this page and let me know what dependencis to download, i cant really understand it.  http://www.gprsec.hu/modules/docs/#3
[12:04] <xnox> Hi everyone! I'm very happy to be back on irc after a very long time.
[12:04] <greywhind> Kevin4381: it's not showing any errors that I can see - looks right... but you say aiglx/compiz aren't working?
[12:05] <raf256> compengi: Im c++ devel, dont petronize me
[12:05] <jrib> moomin1: pastebin output of 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install heartbeat'
[12:05] <xnox> stupid question how to broadcast Ubuntu IP so that I can find it out and connect to it via VNC
[12:05] <alecw1> Does anyone know why Compiz-Fusion crashes on the Latitude D630?
[12:05] <dzer0> *patronize ;)
[12:05] <clouder> I made a directory 'Music' in /home.  I set chown to root:music  and chmod to 0775.  I made myself a member of the group, but I can't put any files in it.  What am I doing wrong?
[12:05] <locoooo> .
[12:05] <Kevin4381> greywhind:  - is there a definite way I can tell if they aren't working?
[12:05] <moomin1> got it :D
[12:05] <compengi> raf256, you need to be root to be able to remove change anything in root directory
[12:05] <Kevin4381> all I know is that desktop-effects isn't working...
[12:05] <moomin1> thanks guys .. very helpful
[12:05] <raf256> compengi: I knoooow
[12:05] <raf256> really\
[12:05] <khatuido> someone can help me?
[12:06] <locoooo> hey guys, I got one for ya
[12:06] <raf256> compengi: but thanks ;)
[12:06] <alecw1> !lamp
[12:06] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:06] <chris__> can anyone help me troubleshoot a write access problem to smbfs
[12:06] <greywhind> Kevin4381: hmm...
[12:06] <chattr> can someone help me pls?
[12:06] <locoooo> how come I can ping, use gaim, etc, but I can't surf the net in firefox?
[12:06] <stuart_> can i run nautilus in xfce
[12:07] <compengi> raf256, you are welcome
[12:07] <yaromaster> not yet
[12:07] <greywhind> anyone else here good at figuring out what's wrong with ATI/desktop effects? can you help Kevin4381?
[12:07] <dzer0> yaromaster: you there? did you look at my menu.lst
[12:07] <chattr> i got a problem with the permissions with my local php server i cant paste any files into and if i want to watch my site it says that its restricted i tried to set the folder www with chmod but uit wont work what i can do there to get it to work?
[12:07] <jrib> stuart_: sure
[12:07] <Smygis> stuart_, yes, with the "--no-desktop" flag. But Thunar works fine
[12:07] <stuart_> jrib, kay thanks.
[12:08] <stuart_> Smygis, no desktop?
[12:08] <locoooo> can someone with networking insight please help with an internet connection problem
[12:08] <locoooo> ??
[12:08] <ubutom> chattr, use chmod -R 777 www
[12:08] <chris__> I am unable to change the rights to file access on an smbfs mount, even with root account
[12:08] <Smygis> nautilus --no-desktop
[12:08] <jrib> zerokill88: I can't give you a list right away, just go through each one and search the repositories for the name
[12:08] <stuart_> also, how come i just gparted /media/hdb1 and have 8GB free but when i access disks, it says only 4gb free?
[12:09] <yaromaster> dzer0: try this http://justlinux.com/forum/showpost.php?p=869980&postcount=6
[12:09] <jrib> zerokill88: since I guess you are compiling the app, you probably want to get the -dev packages for all that stuff too
[12:09] <Smygis> stuart_, nautilus sorta likes to take control over the desktop. Its wery anoying
[12:10] <Kevin4381> Desktop effects doesn't start -- when I run from terminal I get the following: http://pastebin.com/d31a4126
[12:10] <chattr> ubutom, now i can download my php files from the server but they will not be shown what about this now?
[12:10] <stuart_> and how do i check how much HD space i have through console again
[12:10] <jrib> stuart_: df -h
[12:10] <zerokill88> jrib thats the thing, some arent in the respitories, but i guess i got alot of downloading to do
[12:10] <stuart_> jrib, thanks, always forget that
[12:10] <yaromaster> dzer0: use your live CD and type the following
[12:10] <yaromaster> fdisk -l
[12:10] <yaromaster> this will output all of your partitions. then if your ubuntu partition is say /dev/hda6 type the following:-
[12:10] <yaromaster> sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt
[12:10] <yaromaster> this will mount the drive on /mnt
[12:10] <yaromaster> now go to /mnt/etc and check you fstab and mtab and see if they match with the stuff you got from the fdisk -l command.
[12:10] <yaromaster> after this go to /mnt/boot/grub
[12:10] <yaromaster> now type sudo vim menu.lst
[12:11] <yaromaster> scroll down to where the ubuntu loader is entered. in there check whether the same partitions are being declared as the boot drive as you saw in the fdisk -l and your fstab and mtab.
[12:11] <jrib> clouder: you need to logout and log back in to be a member of music
[12:11] <yaromaster> once you make sure that everything matches reboot with your hard disk. your friendly grub screen should now be there for you.
[12:11] <yaromaster> also in the menu.lst file if your change the titles, then you can have grub display for you somehting like "Enter at you own risk" or "This is my Computer so stay away" instead of the standard boring old "Ubuntu 6.06 i386 blah blah blah".
[12:11] <stuart_> Smygis, oh my. so does thunar do the job in me being able to access desktop in root?
[12:11] <jrib> yaromaster: stop, please don't paste essays here, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:11] <askand> What resolution am I supposed to get with this:
[12:11] <askand>  Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)?
[12:11] <_6StringKng_> can someone help me with Gaim>
[12:11] <_6StringKng_> ?
[12:11] <zerokill88> jrib in a pdf i have it says all i need is perl-TK wich i have, perl-libwww-perl wich apt-get cant find, and perl-URL wich apt-get cant find
[12:11] <jrib> !someone | _6StringKng_
[12:11] <ubotu> _6StringKng_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:12] <ubutom> dunno, chattr, have you set up your server correctly? i dont know much about that, im using xampp on my test machine, and i don`t really mess with php  ;)
[12:12] <yaromaster> sorry, i will do that from now on
[12:12] <_6StringKng_> k, anyways, how do I install themes for Gaim?
[12:12] <jrib> zerokill88: libwww-perl is in main
[12:12] <chattr> ubutom,  before it worked
[12:12] <chattr> but now it will not
[12:13] <Smygis> stuart_, ? is "sudo Thunar" what you want?
[12:13] <urbish> I am unable to change the rights to file access on an smbfs mount, even with root account
[12:13] <yaromaster> dzer0: or go there http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=456959
[12:13] <stuart_> Smygis, lemme try..
[12:13] <Neob> Does anyone know where to get the Gfire package?
[12:13] <ubutom> before you chmod' ed? :)
[12:13] <obf213> ok. this may sound pretty stupid. but is there a way change the size that ubuntu opens windows at. i am at 1440x900 res but every window opened is still rediculously large
[12:13] <The-KMT> hi evereybody
[12:13] <ernesto_> hey guys, anyone else having trouble install beryl from the beryl project repo?
[12:13] <ubutom> before you chmod' ed? :) chattr
[12:13] <ernesto_> keeps telling me it was unable to fetch
[12:13] <Neob> ernesto_
[12:13] <Neob> hold up
[12:14] <Megaqwerty> ernesto_: unable to fetch what?
[12:14] <Neob> i have this link
[12:14] <_6StringKng_> installing themes for Gaim?
[12:14] <compengi> is iptables installed by default?
[12:14] <Kevin4381> Desktop effects doesn't start -- when I run from terminal I get the following: http://pastebin.com/d31a4126
[12:14] <The-KMT> i've a file .tar.gz how do i install it ?
[12:14] <jrib> chattr: I don't really know much about samba, have you read through the wiki guide to see if your issue is addressed?
[12:14] <PriceChild> ernesto_, may be one mirror down, try again
[12:14] <chattr> ubutom, no the testpage of php worked i replaced it now with my own scripts
[12:14] <jrib> urbish: I don't really know much about samba, have you read through the wiki guide to see if your issue is addressed?
[12:14] <alecw1> Is there a REALLY fast way to install lamp? I don't have an installation CD with me.
[12:14] <jrib> chattr: ignore that, sorry
[12:14] <ernesto_> i was getting a 404
[12:14] <alecw1> I heard that if yo uinstall "phpmyadmin" it will donwload everything you need.
[12:14] <jrib> !lamp > alecw1 (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:14] <stuart_> Smygis, oh yeah, exactly what i want. looks like i gotta uninstall nautilus
[12:14] <urbish> I have read everything about it I can find online
[12:14] <jrib> The-KMT: what are you trying to install?
[12:14] <chattr> jrib,  ok np
[12:14] <clouder> jrib: lol, thanks a bunch.  I was fiddling with that for 30 min
[12:14] <alecw1> hrib, I tried that.
[12:15] <The-KMT> XGngeo
[12:15] <PriceChild> ernesto_, do update again then try install
[12:15] <ernesto_> ok
[12:15] <locoooo> hey guys, this is probably a stupid question, but I can ping websites and stuff, but when i go to that website in a browser it doesnt load...any ideas?
[12:15] <jrib> !samba > urbish (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:15] <ernesto_> oh there we go hah
[12:15] <ernesto_> thx
[12:15] <PriceChild> ernesto_, woo :)
[12:15] <ubutom> urbish, i think the permissions are stored in your smb.conf, dont know much about that either, sorry :)
[12:15] <chattr> locoooo,  u need to define an DNS server
[12:15] <warlock_handler> hi guys...
[12:15] <stuart_> is it apt-get remove --purge foo or apt-get remove foo --purge
[12:16] <jrib> !compile > The-KMT (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:16] <Neob> Anyway
[12:16] <Neob> Does anyone know where to get Xfire for Gaim?
[12:16] <locoooo> i'm behind a router and my dns is my router address
[12:16] <NETWizz> Ubuntu Edgy got a new Kernel
[12:16] <pitecantropus> it`s true that an AMD processor is better, generally speaking, than an INTEL for running Ubuntu?
[12:16] <locoooo> is that correct
[12:16] <locoooo> ?
[12:16] <NETWizz> If I install it, will everything still work
[12:16] <PurpZeY> Does anyone know how I can setup an audio passthrough as an output device?
[12:16] <NETWizz> I.e. will I need to re-install VMWARE
[12:16] <PriceChild> pitecantropus, i have no idea why it would be...
[12:16] <greywhind> pitecantropus: don't think so
[12:16] <jrib> The-KMT: it varies, but the bots instructions will help if you need to compile.  Also, look for a README or INSTALL file inside the tar.gz
[12:17] <phil_pi> loco, you need the address of a real dns on the net
[12:17] <flush> yo any ideas why my psybnc keeps dropping liek it just stops responding and i gotta kill -9 it and restart the process
[12:17] <ProN00b> i need a tool to binary diff two files
[12:17] <The-KMT> jrib : thanx i'll take a look
[12:17] <pitecantropus> some say that Intel is optimised for M$ products
[12:17] <locoooo> thanks guys, i will try that, but should I be able to ping a website and get responses if my dns isnt correctly set?
[12:18] <ernesto_> er actually i'll take that back..
[12:18] <ernesto_> now i'm getting Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[12:18] <PriceChild> pitecantropus, you know macs run on intel?
[12:18] <ernesto_> just keep trying?
[12:18] <Yulquen> i understand the ext2 filesystem reserves 5% space for the superuser.is there any way to get around that "bug"?
[12:18] <amiller> im trying to get my 19" widescreen LCD to display 1440x900 @ 75hz, I've been able to get it to 1440x900 but I can't get it to 75hz, any ideas? I'm using the open source ATI driver
[12:18] <chattr> i added my php scripts in the right folder but if i want to see it in my browser it wont walk what can be the problem?
[12:18] <greywhind> PriceChild, pitecantropus: they do indeed - i'm dual-booting Ubuntu on my Intel Mac
[12:18] <ProN00b> pitecantropus, intel might be optimised for ms products, but linux is optimized for everything
[12:18] <stuart_> btw, programs do run aside from windows managers, right?
[12:19] <Anlar> Yulquen: no.
[12:19] <stuart_> as in i can use kmobiletools for xfce?
[12:19] <Anlar> stuart_: yes, but it's painful
[12:19] <Yulquen> doh..
[12:19] <PriceChild> ProN00b, hehe i like that... regardless of whether the first statement is true
[12:19] <ubutom> locoooo, i may be wrong, but i remember there was some problem people had with ipv6 on suse, or whatnot, you could try to use ipv4 instead in your network manager
[12:19] <Yulquen> back to ntfs then.
[12:19] <Anlar> stuart_: "man xinit", start digging from for instance there
[12:19] <ProN00b> PriceChild, as i said, it might, but pitecantropus said it
[12:19] <netwalker> stuart, as long as the required libs are installed, theres no problem
[12:20] <Anlar> Yulquen: just go for xfs.
[12:20] <stuart_> Anlar, thanks
[12:20] <Punkunity> damn it, FOSSRevolution is abandoned now
[12:20] <Alfonsodg> Hi..... i have a problem.... for the sugar-jhbuild (OLPC XO) over ubuntu i need the avahi-python and gnomevfs-python modules, i have installed all the packages with those names... but still the dependencies are broken.... any ideas?
[12:20] <netwalker> sudo apt-get -f install
[12:20] <Yulquen> Anlar: is it safe/stable?
[12:20] <netwalker> that's to fix a dependency problem
[12:20] <netwalker> hello. may I ask someone about a iwlwifi wifi driver on kubuntu 7.04? Is there a way t make it work?
[12:21] <stuart-> k sec recon
[12:21] <locoooo> ubutom: and how do I specify ipv4 ?
[12:21] <moroki_att> netwalker... thanks
[12:21] <MajorPayne> Is there a package I can install to get the man pages for the standard libary C functions?
[12:21] <Anlar> Yulquen: xfs was crafted by SGI, one of the most prestigious and advanced unix-related companies ever.. and it's years old and extremely stable
[12:21] <ubutom> dunno, i think one could choose it
[12:21] <ubutom> dunno, i think one could choose it locoooo
[12:22] <amiller> i use xfs right now, it rocks
[12:22] <moroki_att> netwalker;;; I get an invalid operation
[12:22] <Anlar> Yulquen: it is likely the most advanced commonly available file system (as the one Solaris has is not really available)
[12:22] <ubutom> my pc is busy at the moment with upgrading, and the network gui is broken... ;)
[12:22] <The-KMT> Does anyone know how to configure the PS3 siaxis pad to run with ubuntu ?
[12:22] <locoooo> another thing i forgot to mention, it works fine wired, this problem is only on wireless
[12:22] <dissection> I have a problem. When I switched on the PC, I got an error saying unable start the X server, etc etc, so I rebooted and got the error again. Then onwards I've been getting an error saying it found inconsistency in sda3 and fsck needed to be run manually without -a or -p. What do I do? I'm on the Live CD now :S
[12:22] <jrib> MajorPayne: manpages-dev
[12:23] <pitecantropus> are some channel about hardware and Linux or we can discuss and here more about it?
[12:23] <PurpZeY> Can someone help me with an audio pass-through via AC97? I think I have it setup properly, but it doesn't seem to be working.
[12:23] <Baktaah> Excuse me, Ubuntu starts (I think) but my screen doesnt work, Im on a laptop, how do I remove GRUB so Vista will boot like before?
[12:23] <MajorPayne> jrib: Thanks.
[12:23] <Anlar> Baktaah: use the recovery console that vista installation dvd offers.. fixmbr, fixboot
[12:23] <Yulquen> Anlar: and is does not have a big overhead?
[12:24] <amiller> im trying to get my 19" widescreen LCD to display 1440x900 @ 75hz, I've been able to get it to 1440x900 but I can't get it to 75hz, any ideas? I'm using the open source ATI driver
[12:24] <Baktaah> Anlar  I just got the vista ulti dvd, nothing else, how do I fix it?
[12:24] <lufis> Has anyone else had trouble with installing HPLIP using the self-extracting script?
[12:24] <Anlar> Yulquen: sure, there are journal areas and all sorts of things.. the only way to avoid that happening is to go back to 16th century or so
[12:24] <Anlar> Baktaah: just boot from vista dvd and hit f8 and start recovery console, log in using it, fixmbr, fixboot
[12:25] <pitecantropus> it`s true that are better nvidia drivers that ATI drivers for Ubuntu?
[12:25] <greywhind> pitecantropus: yes
[12:25] <Baktaah> what is fixmbr fixboot
[12:25] <ubutom> yes pitecantropus
[12:25] <newtubuntu> I know I'm off topic, but I need help on WHERE to look for IRC rooms. I'm looking for a MS Excel specific room (tried #excel, 3 peeps in, all silent). Please let me know where I could 'search rooms'. Thanks in advance.
[12:25] <Anlar> Baktaah: commands for the recovery console that you can boot with the dvd into
[12:25] <NETWizz> HOw do I remove VMWARE
[12:25] <NETWizz> I wish to upgrade it
[12:25] <Baktaah> Anlar  huh?
[12:25] <NETWizz> But I want to remove all of it
[12:26] <NETWizz> first
[12:26] <NETWizz> and upgrade to a newer version of ubuntu
[12:26] <Anlar> Baktaah: if you boot from vista dvd and don't let it boot normally but select the recovery console, you get all sorts of funky commands available
[12:26] <tuxcrafter> bye guys
[12:26] <cesar_> alguien de espaa
[12:27] <lufis> I'm trying to install the latest version of HP's open source drivers for their printers and scanners (HPLIP). They provide a source package and a binary install script, which I've decided to use. However, it's a bit buggy I think and every time I try to run it, it tries to detect my network and for some reason reports that I have no connection (which isn't true; I couldn't be on IRC right now if that were the case). Does anyone know where I can find a deb o
[12:27] <Yulquen> Anlar: do I need to change the kernal, or can i format a disk with xfs with mkfs after installing the fs?
[12:27] <PriceChild> !es | cesar_
[12:27] <ubotu> cesar_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:27] <Anlar> lufis: apt-get install hplip
[12:27] <yaromaster> baktaah: just let it boot normaly, on the first screen hit next and on the nest screen lower left cornet hit recovery console
[12:28] <Anlar> Yulquen: just format yeah
[12:28] <lufis> Anlar: no, it's already installed. I want the latest version, as the one in edgy's repo is quite old
[12:28] <pitecantropus> greywhind, what about Mac`s speed with Intel compared with PowerPC?
[12:28] <ferempi> Hello there. I have just installed Ubuntu 7.04 and now i want to know wich packages i need to download so I can install kubuntu-desktop. Is there a way to get a list? any command line command?
[12:28] <yaromaster> type your pass then first command is bootrec /fixmbr   second command is bootrec /fixboot
[12:28] <Yulquen> Anlar: ok thanks, Ill check it out.
[12:28] <Anlar> lufis: you want newer softare.. why on earth then you don't update to feisty?
[12:28] <Baktaah> yaromaster in vista dvd?
[12:28] <lufis> Anlar: I meant feisty
[12:29] <yaromaster> yes
[12:29] <stuart-> how do i make my /.wine dir visible in Disks on the WM
[12:29] <yaromaster> let it start normally
[12:29] <Meyvn> good news guys >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235526 (improved font)
[12:29] <lufis> Anlar: But the installer hp provides isn't working correctly and compiling from source is giving me some weird error
[12:29] <Dimensions> hiya ...Can some one Pleaseeeeeee help ... i have xp / ubuntu dual boot laptop which can't boot and stucks after grub menus ... when i boot with live cd and mount xp to /mnt it gives error in dmesg saying  NTFS-fs warning (device hda2): is_boot_sector_ntfs(): Invalid boot sector checksum. and also primary boot sector is invalid ................ what should i do .... (tried reinstalling grub which doesn't help) ?????
[12:30] <dissection> Someone help me, please! I can't boot into ubuntu :(
[12:30] <stuart-> dissection, why not
[12:30] <Gambrinus_> stuart-: if i understand you correctly: ctrl + h
[12:30] <dissection> stuart-: When I switched on the PC, I got an error saying unable start the X server, etc etc, so I rebooted and got the error again. Then onwards I've been getting an error saying it found inconsistency in sda3 and fsck needed to be run manually without -a or -p. What do I do? I'm on the Live CD now :S
[12:30] <riaal> Hi, I have a bunch of mount commands that used to be in my fstab, but now I don't wont them to mount everytime I boot, can I put them in a script or something so I don't have to enter every line ?
[12:30] <chattr> hey guys my php server when i add now files with the ending .php and i want to see the result i dont seee my page it will just try to download it. what can be the problem there?
[12:30] <PurpZeY> Can someone help me out with sound output devices?
[12:30] <stuart-> Gambrinus_, exactly. thanks
[12:31] <Dimensions> chattr:  check if you have php5 and php4 both install uninstall php4 Completely ...
[12:31] <stuart-> dissection, haha i get fsck errors a lot, and haven't found a solution. can't you ctrl+d the error?
[12:31] <chattr> i only have php5 working
[12:31] <chattr> installed*
[12:32] <stuart-> dissection, been seeing a lot of fsck bootup errors on google
[12:32] <yaromaster> baktaah did you have any luck
[12:32] <Baktaah> yaromaster  havent tried yet...im looking if I can fix the gpu driver instead.
[12:32] <Baktaah> modify xorg through bash
[12:32] <dissection> stuart-: It took me to root@ .. didn't start ubuntu gui
[12:32] <yaromaster> ok
[12:32] <dissection> stuart-: I never got the fsck error before this
[12:33] <stuart-> dissection, did you try typing exit after root
[12:33] <jrib> !lamp > chattr (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:33] <dissection> stuart-: No I didn't.. will that fix it?
[12:33] <stuart-> dissection, i'm sure there's a fsck command line if it forces you to root, try google, i just read it somewhere
[12:33] <jrib> chattr: that page lists a few things you can troubleshoot
[12:33] <dissection> stuart-: I'm afraid of typing something wrong and messing it up :S
[12:33] <stuart-> dissection, you could try that first, because that's what i do too if it forces me to root without giving me the option to ctrl+d
[12:34] <Anlar> chattr: mime setting not setup correctly
[12:34] <dissection> stuart-: So can I fix the fsck error after I boot into the gui?
[12:34] <chattr> anlar hm?
[12:34] <Dimensions> chattr:  i have had the same problem for a few days tried here and every where but didn't solve the problem neither any googling ... at last i found i had php4 installed somehow along with php5 ..... with default installation you dont have to customize any thing ... it should work by default ...
[12:34] <stuart-> dissection, you have to keep doing that every boot, sadly. but i'm sure google has a solution somehwere
[12:34] <`paul> "error undefind mysql_connect" how do i fix this? tried aptitude php5-mysql but didnt work\
[12:34] <stuart-> search fsck error bootup ubuntu
[12:34] <dissection> :(
[12:35] <Anlar> chattr: somewhere in apache configs, you don't have two lines as you should
[12:35] <chattr> i will uninstall all and will retry it then
[12:35] <dissection> okay let me try
[12:36] <amexa> hi, i need help
[12:36] <eallik> can someone tell me what to do with a hardware wifi switch that is not working?
[12:36] <diego_> ola
[12:37] <diego_> jajajaja
[12:37] <diego_> ajajaa
[12:37] <diego_> jajajja
[12:37] <diego_> ajajja
[12:37] <diego_> ajajaj
[12:37] <amexa> when i tried to change somethings in the xorg.conf i changed my desktop resolution and i wasn't satisfied
[12:37] <quaal> why is ubuntu failing to mount my cd drive
[12:37] <`paul> "error undefind mysql_connect" how do i fix this? tried aptitude php5-mysql but didnt work. :(
[12:37] <quaal> when k9copy is copying the dvd right now.
[12:37] <amexa> now i returned the old xorg.conf
[12:37] <jsestri2> Could someone pastebin a proper bootlog for me?
[12:38] <amexa> but i don't have the upper and the lower bar
[12:38] <PriceChild> mc44, i feel left out :(
[12:38] <amexa> the gnome bars
[12:38] <jsestri2> Or could someone tell me what comes after "Running local boot scripts" at boot time
[12:38] <amexa> can anyone help me put those bars back??
[12:38] <mc44> PriceChild: No poking for you! :P
[12:38] <eallik> I somehow feel there are more questions on this channel than there are answers...
[12:39] <amexa> are you reading??
[12:39] <stuart-> what's a good torrent client for ubuntu
[12:39] <JC_Denton_> stuart, azureus
[12:39] <riaal> How do I re-mount my fstab while running the system?
[12:39] <eallik> JC_Denton_: can you tell me what to do with a hardware wifi switch that is not working?
[12:40] <eallik> am I missing some drivers?
[12:40] <netwalker> get a bigger hammer... :P
[12:40] <netwalker> nah, seriously. brand and model?
[12:40] <amexa> hi, i have no upper bar and no lower bar in my desktop. how can i recover those bars???
[12:40] <chattr> do i only need to sudo install php5 and apache5 ?
[12:40] <scorp123> PriceChild: question out of curiosity ... if you kick+ban someone, how long is the ban in effect?
[12:40] <JC_Denton_> ealik I cannot say when you only mention t's not working
[12:40] <chattr> or does there is another thing?
[12:40] <PriceChild> scorp123, until we decide to remove it.
[12:40] <Dimensions> `paul: do you have mysql installed ?
[12:41] <JC_Denton_> ealik does it switch on?
[12:41] <netwalker> scorp: as long as he keeps the same IP and nick
[12:41] <eallik> nope, it does in Windows
[12:41] <yaromaster> does anyone know good c# ide for ubuntu
[12:41] <moroki_att> netwalker: I figured it out. I think... at least it is downloading the upgrades, I needed :)
[12:41] <scorp123> PriceChild: and how often does that occur?
[12:41] <eallik> if I start windows and then reboot into Ubuntu, WiFi works, but Ubuntu itself cannot turn the Wireless card on
[12:41] <eallik> yaromaster: SharpDevelop
[12:41] <`paul> Dimensions: i installed mysql using aptitude install mysql-server
[12:41] <amexa> hi, i have no upper bar and no lower bar in my desktop. how can i recover those bars???
[12:42] <JC_Denton_> ealik on the command line type sudo iwlist scan eth1 (if eth1 is your wireless interface)
[12:42] <yaromaster> thanx im gonna try it out now
[12:42] <JC_Denton_> yaromaster there is monodevelop but it is far from complete
[12:42] <JC_Denton_> yaromaster and quite a resource hog
[12:42] <greywhind> amexa: right click on the desktop. is there an option about a new bar?
[12:43] <eallik> JC_Denton_: iwlist: unknown command `eth1'
[12:43] <eallik> and eth1 IS my wireless card
[12:43] <netwalker> amexa: maybe gnome-panel crashed. try launching it from alt-f2
[12:43] <dissection> stuart-: I typed exit but it only restarted the PC... I'm on the Live CD again
[12:43] <JC_Denton_> ealik try iwlist eth1 scan
[12:43] <amexa> no, there is no bar option
[12:44] <riaal> How do I re-mount my fstab while running the system?
[12:44] <JC_Denton_> ealik and see if your accesspoint is listed
[12:44] <amexa> i tried
[12:44] <Dimensions> `paul: sudo apt-get install php5-mysql or google for ubuntu lamp installation ...
[12:44] <yaromaster> JC_Denton_ thanx
[12:44] <zonzei> Always wheni try to install something i get error: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:44] <zonzei> E: _cache->open() failed, please report." Whats wrong?
[12:44] <JC_Denton_> yaromaster np
[12:44] <amexa> he tells "i've detected a panel already running and will now exit"
[12:45] <eallik> JC_Denton_: I'm on the net using  my Wireless right now
[12:45] <jrib> zonzei: try running 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' like it mentions
[12:45] <nickrud> zonzei, so run that command in a terminal
[12:45] <JC_Denton_> yaromaster I develop my projects with VS and then port then. It saves a lot of time even though I dont like developing on windows and Im writing a platform independent app..
[12:45] <eallik> it works perfectly, but the hardware switch doesn't turn on unless I reboot from Windows (which turns it on)
[12:45] <amexa> i cannot return those bars...
[12:45] <greywhind> amexa: you could try sudo killall gnome-panel
[12:45] <netwalker> amexa: well, lets try a crazy move: shut it down with killall -9 gnome-panel  and launch it again
[12:46] <greywhind> amexa: what netwalker said
[12:46] <yaromaster> so vs is a lot better then the other  ides
[12:46] <dissection> I can't get into ubuntu.. pls help me guys :"(((
[12:46] <amexa> ok, i killed it
[12:46] <JC_Denton_> yaromaster VS is quite a benchmark
[12:46] <netwalker> amexa: and if you launch it again does it work
[12:46] <greywhind> dissection: what's your problem?
[12:46] <yaromaster> ic
[12:46] <JC_Denton_> eallik I doubt i can help you with that... racking my brains
[12:46] <eallik> I found smth called Acer Hotkey Driver that is supposed to work for CL56 motherboards, that's what I have
[12:47] <eallik> maybe that will help
[12:47] <amexa> it worked!
[12:47] <amexa> thanks!!!!
[12:47] <urbish> I can't change owner on a directory , even as root
[12:47] <greywhind> amexa: glad it worked
[12:48] <dissection> greywhind: When I started the PC, I got an error saying X server cannot be started. I reboot and I got the error again. After I rebooted again, it said incosistency found in sda3 and fsck need to be run manually without -a and -p and takes me to root@.... stuart- told me to type exit and it'll work but it only rebooted the PC without doing anything
[12:48] <nickrud> amexa, as a test you should do the killall again; the panel should auto restart itself if all is good
[12:48] <greywhind> dissection: when it rebooted this last time, what happened?
[12:48] <dissection> greywhind: the same thing
[12:49] <greywhind> dissection: did you do "sudo fsck"?
[12:49] <amexa> yes, it did restart
[12:49] <dissection> greywhind: Do I do it from the live CD or I have to reboot again?
[12:49] <bulmer> dissection  you may have to run fsck on /dev/hda1
[12:49] <chattr> it will not work :(
[12:49] <chattr> i reinstalled now the php5 and the apache again
[12:49] <greywhind> bulmer: do you want to help him? you're probably more knowledgeable than i am.
[12:50] <bulmer> ill give it a shot
[12:50] <chattr> but again i can only download the files but dont see the php content
[12:50] <dissection> bulmer: So I type "sudo fsck /dev/hda1" ?
[12:50] <pili> Hi, could someone recommend me a download manager to use with flashgot?
[12:50] <bulmer> dissection, wait..
[12:50] <bulmer> dissection, how many drives do you have?
[12:50] <wesolek> can anybody tell me which file to modify to have a static IP from my router? When I do it in the network manager, it just doesn't connect to the network... btw hello everybody :)
[12:51] <dissection> bulmer: Two hard disks
[12:51] <nickrud> chattr, have you installed libapache2-mod-php5 ?
[12:51] <urbish> when I change permissions on a directory it won't stay
[12:51] <greywhind> bulmer: he was told inconsistency in sda3
[12:51] <dzer0> yes! I did it!
[12:51] <zerokill88> hwo can i check what usb port my cellphone is connected to??
[12:51] <UnderC0de> lsusb?
[12:51] <bulmer> dissection, what other os if you have installed?
[12:51] <zerokill88> ill try thanks
[12:51] <dissection> bulmer: Windows XP
[12:51] <nickrud> pili, gwget is ok
[12:51] <UnderC0de> lsusb -v
[12:51] <dzer0> X wouldn't start but then I used my crazy mad hacking skills to download the package that I need :P
[12:51] <bulmer> dissection, do you know which partions XP is on? which partition is linux is on?
[12:52] <Neob> Does anyone know where i could get Gfire package?
[12:52] <Neob> Xfire for Gaim
[12:52] <dzer0> now, is there a binary of Pidgin anywhere? I have no idea how to compile the source and it's not on pidgin.im or in the repos
[12:52] <dissection> bulmer: Not exactly.. I let the wizard install ubuntu so i didn't mess it up
[12:52] <Ebuntor> Hi, I'm trying to install gnome-cups-manager on an old Xubuntu PC without an internet connection. is there a way to do that?
[12:53] <jsestri2> dzer0: is the gaim package linked to it?
[12:53] <bulmer> dissection okay..lets do this..you have attempted to boot..and what is the final prompt again?
[12:53] <NETWizz> How do I clear my open with list
[12:53] <UnderC0de> try live-cd
[12:53] <dzer0> jsestri2: not sre
[12:53] <NETWizz> I have VLC in there 3 times
[12:53] <dzer0> *not sure
[12:53] <jsestri2> dzer0: apt-cache search gaim
[12:53] <chattr> nickrud,  yes it is installed
[12:53] <bulmer> dissection, i meant boot from the hd right?
[12:53] <dissection> bulmer: root@mypc
[12:53] <nickrud> chattr, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart then
[12:53] <obf213> i can never connect to my wireless network it keeps prompting me with a password over and over agian. which i correctly enter. what is the problem
[12:53] <urbish> when I change permissions on a directory it doesn't take
[12:53] <alecw1> why doesn't "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" upgrade GAIM to PIDGIN?
[12:54] <bulmer> dissection, okay...type mount and tell me whats on the list?
[12:54] <dzer0> jsestri2: all I see is just plain old gaim, nothing about pidgin
[12:54] <Neob> Anyone know anything about Gfire?
[12:54] <nickrud> alecw1, because pidgin won't be ubuntu till 7.10?
[12:54] <kitche> alecw1: pidgin is not in the repos
[12:54] <wesolek> static IP will not work on ubuntu, only through dhcp :( so I can't get the port forwarding done, can anybody help me out?
[12:54] <nickrud> unless someone backports
 Thanx, I only know kget and wxDownloadFast (it crashes all the time), and i need something easy and lightweight foe xubuntu
[12:54] <dissection> !paste
[12:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:54] <NETWizz> Help
[12:54] <Quantux> obf213, are you sure it's your network and not your neighbors?
[12:54] <NETWizz> I need to fix my ubuntu open with
[12:54] <NETWizz> HOw do I fix that
[12:55] <nickrud> wesolek, I'm using static, it works fine
[12:55] <Neob> NETWizz, you mean when you double click?
[12:55] <NETWizz> Yes
[12:55] <The-KMT> http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/8610/capture1tv1.png <-- Tell me what i can do
[12:55] <NETWizz> and if I right click
[12:55] <NETWizz> I right click on an AVI for instance
[12:55] <NETWizz> Then Open With
[12:55] <dissection> bulmer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30621/plain/
[12:55] <NETWizz> My list is just filled with crap
[12:55] <obf213> Quantux yes im positive. i sitting right next to the modem. i have the password signal is strong but i am repeatdly prompted to enter password
[12:55] <NETWizz> In windows it is the regsitry
[12:55] <NETWizz> but how do I fix it in ubuntu
[12:55] <chattr> nickrud,  http://pastebin.com/mb53aa6b
[12:55] <doomr0k> This might seem like a really stupid question, but i logged into my webserver today after a crash and received the message "You have new mail" .. what? mail from what and how, i don't have any email server installed.  ?_?
[12:55] <Neob> NETWizz: Hmm
[12:56] <wesolek> oh hello nickrud :) mine won't connect to the network, do you know which file I should modify to switch it off?
[12:56] <Neob> Well try an open Movie Player
[12:56] <Neob> Then try and open file on the top left
[12:56] <bulmer> dissection, you're booted off your hd right?
[12:56] <ReMeMBeR> Hi
[12:56] <Neob> I dont know how to fix that
[12:56] <Neob> Sorry
[12:56] <dissection> bulmer: I'm on the Live CD right now.. It won't let me boot from the hd
[12:56] <nickrud> wesolek, switch it off?? anyway, you'd edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:57] <jgoguen> The-KMT: open a new terminal and tell me what this command gives: ls -l /tmp/jdk-6-doc.zip
[12:57] <bulmer> dissection, well...what happens when you attempt to boot from the hd? whats the error or the very last prompt you're getting?
[12:57] <urbish> I am trying to give a group write access to a directory using chmod, it doesn't give an error, but doesn't work either
[12:58] <nickrud> chattr, a sec
[12:58] <TaintedTux> Has anyone used a program called 'any2dvd' on Ubuntu?
[12:58] <chattr> nickrud,  i need it only for local testings
[12:58] <wesolek> no I just want to change it from dhcd to static IP
[12:58] <The-KMT> jgoguen : no file or folder ....
[12:58] <dzer0> so does anyone know what repository I need to add for pidgin?
[12:58] <wesolek> nickrud
[12:58] <bulmer> dissection are you still there? if you are still on liveCD ..try this...
[12:58] <dissection> bulmer: It takes me to root@mypc and waits for a command.. If I press Ctrl+D(I don't know what it does), it shows a few lines of something I can't remember.. and gets stuck there
[12:58] <riaal> is there someway to re-read the fstab whit out rebooting??
[12:58] <jgoguen> The-KMT: OK, that means you didn't download the file like it told you to
[12:58] <nickrud> chattr, do sudo netstat -tlnp , see what's using port 89
[12:59] <nickrud> *80
[12:59] <NETWizz> please help jme
[12:59] <chattr> ok
[12:59] <ladydoor> riaal: It should happen fairly automatically. What're you trying to change?
[12:59] <NETWizz> how do I clean up my open with
[12:59] <doomr0k>  but i logged into my webserver today after a crash and received the message "You have new mail" .. what? mail from what and how, i don't have any email server installed.  ?_?  anyone have an idea?
[12:59] <bulmer> dissection, fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:59] <riaal> ladydoor, ? how often?
[12:59] <jgoguen> The-KMT: go to the URL that's shown, download the documentation file (you want jdk-6-doc.zip)
[12:59] <bulmer> dissection, whats the results of this?
[12:59] <The-KMT> jgoguen : okay , thanx ;)
[12:59] <jgoguen> The-KMT: put it in /tmp and use this command: sudo chown root:root /tmp/jdk-6-doc.zip
[01:00] <dissection> bulmer: Okay I typed it..
[01:00] <jgoguen> The-KMT: then try again and it should work fine
[01:00] <nickrud> wesolek, http://pastebin.com/m715a8ffa <-- that's mine
[01:00] <The-KMT> jgoguen : ok
[01:00] <dissection> bulmer: result? Should I type mount again?
[01:00] <greywhind> dissection: what was the output?
[01:00] <dw> Greetings. Is it possible to go from Debian etch -> Ubuntu  via apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:00] <urbish> I am trying to give a group write access to a directory using chmod, it doesn't give an error, but doesn't work either
[01:00] <UnderC0de> a little question: someone knows is there a module for bison webcams (Acer 5050 Orbicam)
[01:00] <dissection> greywhind: No output.. It just goes to the next line
[01:00] <bulmer> dissection, whats the results of this?  fdisk -l /dev/hda
[01:00] <chattr> nickrud,  there is Apache
[01:00] <dissection> bulmer: no result
[01:01] <dissection> bulmer: it goes to the next line
[01:01] <bulmer> dissection, whats the results of this?  fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[01:01] <dissection> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l /dev/hda
[01:01] <dissection> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[01:01] <ladydoor> riaal: I could be making this up, but I think when you save it. You may have to remount whatever you change, you may not.
[01:01] <dissection> thats it
[01:01] <riaal> what does this mean? "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted" there is nothing im my network that does this, firestarter? :S
[01:01] <dissection> theres no result shown
[01:01] <greywhind> dissection: the letter after the dash is an L, as in Love. is that what you typed?
[01:01] <riaal> ladydoor, your totaly right, it has mounted, thanks
[01:02] <amexa> i cannot update the azureus
[01:02] <NETWizz> fucking updater
[01:02] <ladydoor> riaal: np
[01:02] <dissection> greywhind: No
[01:02] <NETWizz> It updated my fucking kernel
[01:02] <ladydoor> riaal: You rarely *need* to reboot Linux
[01:02] <NETWizz> I unchecked that shit too!!!!!!!
[01:02] <jsestri2> What does this mean: "mdadm: No devices listed in the conf file were found."
[01:02] <Puppy_> what is a good media player to play urls with?
[01:02] <dissection> greywhind, bulmer: There's no result. Thats all it shows
[01:02] <riaal> now to the next problem! Im not allowed to ping?? "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted"?
[01:02] <ladydoor> riaal: Pretty much only when you install a new kernel
[01:02] <greywhind> dissection: did you try it with an L, as in Love?
[01:02] <Brunzel> germans here ?
[01:02] <stuart-> weird. i get max bandwidth on linux torrent, but 3k/sec on windows
[01:03] <dissection> greywhind: fdisk -L /dev/hda you mean?
[01:03] <greywhind> dissection: yes, but lowercase L
[01:03] <nickrud> chattr, do you have both apache and apache2 installed?
[01:03] <bruenig> stuart-, the two probably have different configurations or the built in windows firewall hasn't been disabled
[01:03] <dissection> greywhind: Yeah thats what I did
[01:03] <greywhind> dissection: k, just making sure
[01:03] <bruenig> stuart-, it is nothing to do with linux itself though
[01:03] <chattr> nickrud,  no only apache2
[01:04] <nickrud> chattr, then try sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 stop
[01:04] <Brunzel> ok.. no germans -.-
[01:04] <Brunzel> bye
[01:04] <dissection> greywhind: So what next?
[01:04] <bulmer> dissection, now try  mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[01:04] <riaal> what is this?
[01:04] <riaal> PING 192.168.66.1 (192.168.66.1) from 192.168.66.2 eth1: 56(84) bytes of data.
[01:04] <riaal> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[01:04] <wesolek> nickrud, I don't understand mine, mine is messy :( there are 2 net interfaces that belong to vmplayer but the rest doesn't look entirely right
[01:05] <dissection> bulmer: mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[01:05] <riaal> "Operation not permitted" by who??
[01:05] <greywhind> riaal: do you have root permissions?
[01:05] <macogw> anybody know why HPLIP says i have no ink cartridges installed when i try to check ink levels?  i have an HP 648C and i'm using the PPD for that specific model (instead of the generic for that line of printers, 640C, though the problem is there with that one too)
[01:05] <larson999> oh when oh when will my little flash work?
[01:05] <riaal> greywhind, yeh
[01:06] <nickrud> wesolek, I'm no networking guru, by any means. Try saving the one you have, and create a new one with only localhost and eth0, and build up from there
[01:06] <wesolek> nickrud, this is mine, can you take a look at it? http://pastebin.com/d79fc3844
[01:06] <Theory> larson999: when are you going to submit your patch? ;-)
[01:06] <bulmer> dissection, try  chroot /   this is to chroot to the ramdisk i hope
[01:06] <chattr> nickrud,  done
[01:06] <nickrud> chattr, it said it stopped ok?
[01:06] <chattr> nickrud,  yes
[01:06] <dissection> bulmer: Okay, done
[01:06] <bruenig> you can't patch flash
[01:06] <nickrud> chattr, then sudo netstat -tlpn again, make sure
[01:06] <Puppy_> what is a good media player to play urls with?
[01:07] <riaal> why the %&/( Im I now allowed to use ping? internal firewall? firestarter?
[01:07] <bulmer> dissection, type  ls -la  and tell me what you get?
[01:07] <chattr> nickrud,  yup its stopped
[01:07] <urbish> help  sudo chmod a+w /mnt/server   is not giving write access to the mount
[01:07] <nickrud> chattr, try sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start
[01:07] <wesolek> ok will do, nickrud :) thanks :)... I bet you're sick of me coming in here with my problems lol
[01:07] <LinuxProbie> how do I get rid of this bloody keychain?
[01:07] <jsestri2> Is there anyone here who can help diagnos a booting problem?
[01:07] <nickrud> wesolek, nah, you listen and think :)
[01:08] <dissection> bulmer: It shows the directories of the CD
[01:08] <bruenig> LinuxProbie, you mean that annoying network manager stuff?
[01:08] <dissection> bulmer: I think
[01:08] <LinuxProbie> bruenig, Yes, that
[01:08] <chattr> nickrud,  yup it is started and the netstat there it is now  marked too
[01:08] <greywhind> dissection: maybe post the output to rafb.net?
[01:08] <bulmer> dissection...hang on..let me fire up another machine of mine..and lets see..
[01:08] <robeec> anybody know what 'ignoring home folder' means?
[01:08] <robeec> hi, btw
[01:08] <larson999> LinuxProbie, lemme know when you figure that out.  got one machine that that's bugging me on.  i gave up
[01:08] <macogw> LinuxProbie: use pam keyring instead. only need password once (at login) instead of twice
[01:09] <bruenig> LinuxProbie, I think there was a tutorial somewhere in the blogs (because of course putting it on the wiki would be a bad idea) you may be able to find it through google, I use wifi-radar which is a stand alone python program that doesn't require that nonsense
[01:09] <nickrud> chattr, make an index.html that has only  <?php phpinfo(); ?> in it, and take a look with your browser
[01:09] <urbish> sudo chmod a+w /mnt/server   is not giving write access to the mount
[01:09] <chattr> ok wait
[01:09] <dissection> greywhind: Here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30622/plain/
[01:09] <macogw> bruenig: wifi-radar saves the passphrases for all the wireless networks without a keyring?
[01:09] <eallik> got it... installed the acerhk driver, added acerhk intu /etc/modules and added a line to enable the led on startup to /etc/network/if-pre-smth/wireless-tools
[01:10] <bruenig> macogw, yes it saves them in a text file
[01:10] <smutlron> i'm trying to mount an  ntfs drive that's SATA but it's not showing up in fdisk -l
[01:10] <Fallen[oqp] > hi, i just did apt-get install nvidia-glx-new && nvidia-xconfig, and X does not start anymore
[01:10] <smutlron> any suggestions?
[01:10] <Fallen[oqp] > i get error module wfb can't be loaded, module doesnt exist
[01:10] <bruenig> macogw, you need to be root to use it, so it is a good idea to edit /etc/sudoers to make sure you can bypass having to provide a password for it everytime, but other than that very smooth
[01:11] <Puppy_> so does anyone know a good media player to play urls with?
[01:11] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : Will you paste the your xorg.conf to pastebin?
[01:11] <Fallen[oqp] > ladydoor < ok i'm doing it
[01:11] <bruenig> Puppy_, mplayer will do that
[01:11] <Fallen[oqp] > ladydoor < oh heu i don't have X anymore so i can't past it :s
[01:11] <Puppy_> bruenig: let me try that. Thanks!
[01:11] <jarrod_> should I worry about a firewall on ubuntu if its inside of a router?
[01:11] <greywhind> dissection: do fdisk -l and tell me the output
[01:12] <bruenig> !firewall | jarrod_
[01:12] <ubotu> jarrod_: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:12] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : You're in a fullscreen terminal, right?
[01:12] <chattr> nickrud,  nothing happened
[01:12] <greywhind> dissection: just fdisk -l (without /dev/hda)
[01:12] <Fallen[oqp] > yes ladydoor
[01:12] <nickrud> chattr, what do you see?
[01:12] <hexstar> what's the chmod # equivilent of drwxr-xr-x?
[01:12] <bruenig> jarrod_, I hardly pay attention to firewalls and have never had a single problem, I think so long as you don't have daemons like ssh or other ones that allow net access to your computer, you are fine
[01:12] <chattr> nickrud,  a white page
[01:12] <dissection> greywhind: Here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30623/plain/
[01:13] <bruenig> hexstar, 755
[01:13] <jarrod_> bruenig. are those graphical front ends for the built in or seperate apps?
[01:13] <urbish> sudo chmod a=rwx /mnt/server    is not giving write access to anyone but root
[01:13] <hexstar> thanks bruenig
[01:13] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : Okay, do you have GNU screen installed?
[01:13] <bruenig> jarrod_, front ends
[01:13] <nickrud> chattr, ok, delete the index.html and look again, apache should report it's major modules along with a directory listing
[01:13] <Fallen[oqp] > yes ladydoor
[01:13] <hexstar> is that a good default permision for files and folders bruenig?
[01:13] <larson999> screen rocks
[01:13] <Fallen[oqp] > i have other tty if you want
[01:13] <bulmer> dissection, my system is old and slow..so hang on
[01:13] <jarrod_> bruenig cool thats what i was looking forward to finding, thanks :D
[01:13] <nickrud> chattr, paste *just that one line* here
[01:13] <bruenig> hexstar, for folders that is a good permission, for files unless you need them to be executable like programs, I would go with 644
[01:13] <Fallen[oqp] > i am actually speaking from my laptop here on IRC
[01:13] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : in that case, you can use that to paste! C-a [ will put you into copy/paste mode.
[01:14] <Fallen[oqp] > and my problem is on my fixe computer
[01:14] <macogw> jarrod_: by default, ubuntu doesnt listen on any ports.  unless you open ports by setting it up as a world-accessible server (or anything like that), you can ignore the firewall, as everything is closed
[01:14] <hexstar> ok thanks bruenig
[01:14] <dissection> bulmer: okay, no worries
[01:14] <greywhind> bulmer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30623/plain/ is his fdisk -l output
[01:14] <chattr> nickrud,  the directory line?
[01:14] <greywhind> dissection: it looks to me like /dev/sda3 is your linux partition
[01:15] <chattr> nickrud,  Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
[01:15] <dissection> greywhind: Yeah, looks like it
[01:15] <greywhind> dissection: which is what i expected from your original question.
[01:15] <bruenig> hexstar, by the way if you don't understand the numbering system it is binary: so 755 is 111 101 101, so that is rwx r-x r-x, if that makes sense, where there are zeros, you are not setting that permission and where the are ones you are
[01:15] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : So in that case you should probably just paste the relevant bin (the Section "Module" bit and the Section "Device" bit would be my guess, possibly the Section "Screen" bit as well
[01:15] <nickrud> chattr, yeah, that one :)
[01:15] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : *relevant bits
[01:15] <bruenig> there*
[01:15] <dissection> greywhind: I didn't know how to check from here since it wasn't mounted..
[01:15] <Fallen[oqp] > i opened ftp server ladydoor and i have the file on my laptop now, i send it to pastebin :)
[01:16] <nickrud> chattr, show me the results of dpkg -l 'php5-*'
[01:16] <MikeRotch> hello i need help with how to find info on installin SMP for 32 bit Ubuntu OS
[01:16] <MikeRotch> please
[01:16] <Fallen[oqp] > ladydoor < http://pastebin.com/d622a1299
[01:16] <nickrud> chattr, and dpkg -l 'libapache2-mod-*'
[01:16] <greywhind> bulmer: so... he needs to use fdisk on /dev/sda3, right?
[01:16] <greywhind> bulmer: or rather fsck
[01:17] <alecw1> I forgot my password, and I don't have ubuntu-desktop installed. What can I do?
[01:17] <bulmer> greywhind, yes, he has to do that
[01:17] <greywhind> bulmer: not fdisk
[01:17] <larson999> MikeRotch,  i think smp is one by default these days.
[01:17] <bruenig> alecw1, I would just get into the live cd, chroot into your install and then change the password
[01:17] <MikeRotch> is there any way i can tell for sure that both my cores are working then?
[01:17] <greywhind> bulmer: ok... so that would just be fsck /dev/sda3 right? and he can do it from within the live cd?
[01:17] <alecw1> live cd doesn't work for me.
[01:17] <larson999> top
[01:18] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : Okay, try commenting the line that says "Load     glx" (line 49) and the line that says "Driver     nvidia" (line 108). Then try adding a line that's identical to the original "Driver      nvidia" line, but with "nv" instead of nvidia.
[01:18] <Fallen[oqp] > ladydoor < the exact error message is : (EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) NVIDIA(0): Need libfwb but wfbScreenInit not found
[01:18] <Fallen[oqp] > ok ladydoor
[01:18] <MikeRotch> sorry larson... top?
[01:18] <bulmer> greywhind, yes since it has not been mounted yet
[01:18] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : okay, you could do an apt-cache search for wfb, if you wanted
[01:18] <ladydoor> ...
[01:18] <greywhind> dissection: ok. do the following: fsck /dev/sda3
[01:18] <Tassos> hi all
[01:19] <Fallen[oqp] > ladydoor < i tried, it returns nothing
[01:19] <chattr> nickrud,  http://pastebin.com/m48d89f61
[01:19] <greywhind> dissection: then follow the prompts, and you should probably choose the default answer to any questions it asks you
[01:19] <Tassos> anyone knows how I can stop spam in Evolution
[01:19] <bulmer> alecw1, did you wait long enuff?
[01:19] <wesolek> nickrud, do you know what does that "auto" command mean? is it how it's mounted? or something like that?
[01:19] <dissection> greywhind: Okay, doing it
[01:19] <Tassos> just trying out linux
[01:19] <nickrud> wesolek, it means to bring up the interface automatically
[01:19] <NETWizz> I have to reboot
[01:19] <alecw1> bulmer, nevermind
[01:19] <nickrud> wesolek, on bot
[01:19] <Baktaah> HELL I HATE GRUB, how in hells name do you remove GRUB, it seems to be invincible, I got vista running and a vista cd... How can I make things go back before GRUB?
[01:19] <alecw1> i got it
[01:19] <nickrud> *boot
[01:19] <NETWizz> I just removed a crap load of packages
[01:19] <Fallen[oqp] > it does work now ladydoor
[01:19] <NETWizz> and freed up some space
[01:19] <NETWizz> Wish me luck
[01:19] <wesolek> thanks nickrud :) I hope it'll work :)
[01:19] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : you can start X?
[01:19] <alecw1> !language | Baktaah
[01:20] <ubotu> Baktaah: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:20] <Fallen[oqp] > ladydoor < X is started :)
[01:20] <Puppy_> bruenig: know any other good ones? :) mplayer did not work for this stream.
[01:20] <Tassos> anyone knows about how to stop spam?
[01:20] <LinuxProbie> stupid keyring....more like jeyWring.
[01:20] <dissection> greywhind: It showed this... Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found..... I chose yes to fix it.. and it said fixed.. Not sure if its still doing anything
[01:20] <LinuxProbie> key^
[01:20] <bruenig> MikeRotch, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor
[01:20] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : Great! Okay, that means that there's something up with nvidia and/or GLX
[01:20] <MikeRotch> umm ok
[01:20] <greywhind> dissection: did it come back to a regular prompt yet?
[01:20] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : You probably already knew that, but this will give you a chance to do some work on that in a more comfortable environment
[01:20] <Baktaah> So..
[01:20] <Baktaah> Any idas
[01:20] <Tassos> any software available for spam?
[01:20] <Baktaah> Grub cant be killed,
[01:20] <MikeRotch> i got processor 0 processor 1
[01:20] <MikeRotch> yay
[01:20] <MikeRotch> thanks
[01:20] <nickrud> chattr, looking
[01:20] <Fallen[oqp] > ok thank ladydoor :)
[01:20] <Baktaah> Im running vista and I want things to go back to normal... :(
[01:20] <chattr> nickrud,  ok np :)
[01:21] <jsestri2> kill grub!
[01:21] <dissection> greywhind: No not yet.. It looks like there're more problems.
[01:21] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : np
[01:21] <maxtype> hello
[01:21] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : Good luck.
[01:21] <Fallen[oqp] > ladydoor < something more : ubuntu always say that i need nvidia-glx , but i saw on the net that for my graphic card i need nvidia-glx-new :o
[01:21] <Fallen[oqp] > so ?
[01:21] <ladydoor> Tassos: To prevent it or to send it? If the latter, don't bother.
[01:21] <greywhind> dissection: just keep going until it comes back to a regular prompt
[01:21] <maxtype> I have a mac mini which ubuntu should i download?
[01:21] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : when does it say you need nvidia-glx?
[01:21] <Fallen[oqp] > what to do ? ^^"
[01:21] <Tassos> ladydoor: to send it to the junk folder
[01:21] <greywhind> maxtype: the regular i386 desktop cd
[01:21] <Tassos> when it comes
[01:21] <Fallen[oqp] > ladydoor < when i want to enable desktop effect, or check for proprietary driver
[01:21] <ladydoor> Tassos: try spamassassin. Also, check out www.spamgourmet.com
[01:21] <maxtype> Greyscale__: ah ok did but thought I made a mistake, not booting off it some reason
[01:21] <wesolek> do I have to reboot? or is there another way of doing it, nickrud?
[01:21] <Puppy_> does anyone know any good media players to play urls with besides vlc and mplayer?
[01:22] <Fallen[oqp] > and now, when i just start x
[01:22] <LinuxProbie> oh, walkthrough on the ubuntu forums
[01:22] <dissection> greywhind: Its back to the prompt
[01:22] <bruenig> Puppy_, what url are you talking about
[01:22] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : Ah, are you using a 3D desktop or something?
[01:22] <bruenig> Puppy_, link?
[01:22] <Greyscale__> O_o
[01:22] <MikeRotch> larson999 can you help with my next question... i installed GParted. I am trying to move my current installation of Ubuntu from the Second partition on my Primary Disk to the First partition that currently holds Windows. I am looking to get rid of Windows on that partition so that is no problem.
[01:22] <nickrud> wesolek, sudo ifdown eth0  then sudo ifup eth0
[01:22] <Greyscale__> maxtype, wrong person?
[01:22] <greywhind> dissection: did it say anything else unusual?
[01:22] <Fallen[oqp] > ladydoor < no, but i will i think
[01:22] <dissection> greywhind: yes
[01:22] <Puppy_> bruenig: here: rtsp://a1873.l2639649579.c26396.g.lm.akamaistream.net/Akamai_Live_49579/stream=3
[01:22] <wesolek> nickrud, cheers mate :)
[01:22] <maxtype> sorry nick auto complete.. meant greywhind
[01:22] <greywhind> maxtype: what was that?
[01:23] <nickrud> chattr, do you see php.load and php.conf in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled?
[01:23] <chattr> moment
[01:23] <Tassos> ladydoor - Thanks I will check out the links
[01:23] <maxtype> greywhind: mac not booting off the cd, thought I made a mistake
[01:23] <greywhind> maxtype: did you hold down "C"?
[01:23] <nickrud> chalcedony, erm, php5.conf and .load, that is
[01:23] <larson999> MikeRotch, you want to move it or just reclaim the windows space?
[01:23] <nickrud> chattr, , erm, php5.conf and .load, that is
[01:23] <MikeRotch> move it completely
[01:23] <maxtype> greywhind: no just on the apple shortcut page, just caught that.. thx :D
[01:23] <ladydoor> Tassos: np. spamassassin's a package in the repos, I believe, if you're interested.
[01:23] <dissection> greywhind: Here is the complete thing.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30625/plain/
[01:23] <MikeRotch> the first partition is a larger one
[01:23] <nickrud> wesolek, yw
[01:24] <MikeRotch> is why i want to
[01:24] <sport> where can the lan ip be seen in ubuntu
[01:24] <bulmer> dissection now lets see if you can shutdown.. shutdown -r now  (btw remove the cd so it can boot from hd)
[01:24] <greywhind> dissection: you should be good to go now
[01:24] <dissection> greywhind: Okay.. let me try
[01:24] <bruenig> sport, ifconfig | sed 's|:| |g' | awk '/Bcast/ {print $3}'
[01:24] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : I don't know how helpful this is, but try starting here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto . It's what the ubotu bot suggests for info. on "nvidia"
[01:24] <Fallen[oqp] > ok thank you ladydoor :)
[01:25] <chattr> nickrud,  there are some .load files but no php5.conf
[01:25] <ladydoor> Fallen[oqp] : np
[01:25] <bulmer> sport easier me thinks...  ip a
[01:25] <larson999> MikeRotch,i think you'd want to use the gparted live cd for that.  but i think if you move it to the other partition you'll have to 'fix' grub.  not sure because i've never done what you're wanting to do.
[01:25] <sport> bruenig wow ....
[01:25] <nickrud> chattr, ok, do you see those files in /etc/apache2/mods-available ?
[01:25] <MikeRotch> oh ok
[01:25] <El_Burro> !grub
[01:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:25] <MikeRotch> thanks though
[01:25] <Puppy_> bruenig: any ideas?
[01:26] <chattr> nickrud,  yes in that directory they are
[01:26] <MikeRotch> would anyone know how to move a Unbuntu installation from the second partition on a disk to the first that currently holds windows.??
[01:26] <Tassos> ladydoor: Sorry, what's repos?
[01:26] <bulmer> MikeRotch, may as well re-install
[01:26] <bruenig> MikeRotch, move all the files over, modify /etc/fstab and modify /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:27] <MikeRotch> i have done too much and i am not so advanced
[01:27] <bradley> Hello, this is my first time here
[01:27] <Puppy_> hi bradley!
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeRotch: A cheaters way might be to install a fresh copy over your windows install then copy /home from the old one
[01:27] <nickrud> chattr, ok, I'm not sure I understood you, but to be sure: there were no references to php5 in mods-enabled?
[01:28] <LinuxProbie> ok, trying AGAIN
[01:28] <Baktaah> Does anyone know how to use the vista DVD to remove grub and make it boot vista AS DEFAULT, as it was before?
[01:28] <bruenig> MikeRotch, it really is quite simple, just move all the files over and then modify two text files, that is all
[01:28] <MikeRotch> modify them to say what
[01:28] <greywhind> dissection: how'd it go?
[01:28] <MikeRotch> i am new man sorry
[01:28] <bradley> Hi Puppy
[01:28] <chattr> nickrud,  in the directory mods_enabled there arent zhst files in
[01:28] <dissection> greywhind, bulmer: I'm in now :D thanks :D:D:D:D
[01:28] <bruenig> MikeRotch, you move the files over and I will guide you on how to set them up
[01:28] <bulmer> dissection, perseverance helps :)
[01:28] <chattr> nickrud,  in the directory mods_enabled there arent that files they were only in mods-avaible
[01:28] <bruenig> MikeRotch, by the way, best to copy and then remove, not literally move
[01:28] <bradley> I recently install Ubuntu
[01:29] <yrth> I just came here to thank you, nickrud :) I think it's working great, cheers mate :)
[01:29] <MikeRotch> so what do i do about the first partition it is still NTFS
[01:29] <greywhind> dissection: so you are booted from the regular installation now?
[01:29] <bulmer> dissection, congrats..enjoy ubuntu
[01:29] <dissection> bulmer, greywhind: So it wasn't really a serious problem that I had, or was it? What may have caused it?
[01:29] <bruenig> MikeRotch, oh you need to format that as ext3
[01:29] <bruenig> !info gparted | MikeRotch
[01:29] <dissection> greywhind: Yes I'm booted from my ubuntu installation.
[01:29] <ubotu> mikerotch: gparted: GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.5-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 316 kB, installed size 1588 kB
[01:29] <MikeRotch> not reiserfs?
[01:29] <MikeRotch> ok
[01:29] <bruenig> MikeRotch, you can use reiser if you want
[01:29] <nickrud> chattr, ok then, do this:   cd /etc/apache2/mods-enabled     . Then,   sudo ln -s ../mods-available/php5* .
[01:29] <sport> bruenig, i might be doing this all wrong, but cant you enter a lan ip of a comp in to firefox and have it bring up shared info...
[01:29] <nickrud> chattr, don't forget the period at the end of the second command.
[01:29] <MikeRotch> cool yea i am already in gparted right now
[01:30] <MikeRotch> the only option i can do is unmounting
[01:30] <bulmer> dissection, doing an fsck is major...man fsck.. but it usually recovers from another boot record
[01:30] <bruenig> sport, I have never heard of that, but maybe
[01:30] <bruenig> MikeRotch, unmount and then format
[01:30] <bruenig> MikeRotch, you can't modify mounted partitions for obvious reasons
[01:30] <greywhind> dissection: well, essentially a bit of data got corrupted or some links got damaged on your disk, and you fixed it by running the command "fsck /dev/sda3," which is a utility that fixes problems like that.
[01:30] <bulmer> sport, wht shared info are you after?
[01:30] <MikeRotch> i do not unmount Ubuntu right?
[01:30] <MikeRotch> haha
[01:30] <sport> bulmer shared folders
[01:30] <Puppy_> bradley: is it your first linux operating system?
[01:30] <ladydoor> Tassos: the Ubuntu repositories...you download packages from them using synaptic/aptitude/adept/apt-get/etc.
[01:31] <LinuxProbie> so, who else wants to frag keyring, just figured out how.
[01:31] <joelle> has anyone setup jpackage in ubuntu?
[01:31] <bulmer> sport, maybe if your browser supports file try .... file:///localhost
[01:31] <Tassos> ladydoor, no idea what's all that - I am 2 days old in linux
[01:31] <Tassos> hah
[01:31] <bradley> Puppy I have installed Red Hat once or twice. I wasnt able to see the screen after the install. Then I went to ubunto. why is ubunto a linux operating system?
[01:31] <pixelmonkey> anyone notice an issue where notification bubbles randomly stop working across the desktop?  I've tried killing notification-daemon, gnome-panel, etc. but no look.  Only thing that seems to fix it is restarting X.
[01:31] <Tassos> I find it kind of hard to install things
[01:31] <chattr> nickrud,  ok done
[01:32] <bulmer> sport  or  file:///127.0.0.1
[01:32] <greywhind> bradley: it's a distribution of Linux, like Red Hat is.
[01:32] <nickrud> chattr, restart apache and take a look
[01:32] <jsestri2> Does anyone have bootlogd running or a /var/log/boot log with anything in it?
[01:32] <bruenig> bulmer, isn't that the same as /127.0.0.1 and there is no /127.0.0.1 file so it would fail?
[01:32] <dissection> greywhind, bulmer: What got me worried there is that I may not be able to regain access to thunderbird which I have installed on Ubuntu. It contains some important mails in my inbox and sent folder. Was I worrying too much? I was wondering what other problems would I possibly face along the way. I recently shifted to Ubuntu and though I have dualboot right now, I want to ditch Windows for good. Its these problems like these that worries me though cause I h
[01:32] <Puppy_> bradley: sorry I don't know technical stuff. yeah what graywhind said. :)
[01:33] <Tassos> ladydoor, like how do I install Spamassassin? Just type this?   rpmbuild -tb Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.1.tar.gz
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !rpm
[01:33] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:33] <greywhind> dissection: I'd say you're much less likely to permanently lose data with Ubuntu than with Windows, given the existence of viruses and such for Windows.
[01:33] <bulmer> bruenig, yep it failed on mine..but it worked on file:///   i dont know why yet
[01:33] <maxtype> greywhind: I did do this correctly right, downloade i386 iso, mounted burnt, booting with c pressed?
[01:33] <chattr> nickrud,  is it php5*. or php5* . ?
[01:33] <bulmer> sport: sorry..just try  file:///
[01:34] <Fallen[oqp] > i have this problem : i can  start X when i have Driver "nv" but i can't when i have Driver"nvidia"
[01:34] <nickrud> chattr, second one. the dot by itself means the current directory
[01:34] <Fallen[oqp] > i get error about wfb
[01:34] <greywhind> maxtype: as long as you burned the ISO with the built-in Mac disk utility, it sounds like you're doing it right.
[01:34] <bruenig> that just brings up / as you would expect
[01:34] <dissection> greywhind: Though I've never really had a viruses problems, its primarily the reason why I decided to switch to Linux.
[01:34] <LinuxProbie> Having children is like living in a frat house. No one sleeps, everything is broken, and there's a lot of throwing up.
[01:34] <jsestri2> Does anyone here know about resolving boot issues?
[01:34] <LinuxProbie> wups.
[01:35] <sport> bulmer im not sure its not reacting
[01:35] <bradley> so, is linux the foundation of ubunto and Red hat?
[01:35] <larson999> yeah, ray
[01:35] <nickrud> Tassos, you'd do apt-cache search spamassassin; that'll show you all the packages that mention spamassassin in the name or description. Then you   apt-get install spamassassin
[01:35] <bulmer> dissection, linux has this nice journaling system that keeps copies of those boot stuff
[01:35] <bruenig> bradley, liinux is the name of the kernel
[01:35] <chattr> nickrud,  there is now a file called php5* right ?
[01:35] <bruenig> linux*
[01:35] <dissection> bulmer: You mean fsck?
[01:35] <maxtype> greywhind: ahh that's my prob I used toast.. thx G'
[01:35] <LinuxProbie> i;m gonna reboot and see if this worked.
[01:36] <bradley> bruenig, what is kernel? I have read about it, but still do not ignolize it.
[01:36] <greywhind> dissection: also, i'd say that once you've got Ubuntu booting at least once from an installation on your hard-drive, it's pretty likely that you'll be able to keep it that way. once in a while you might need to do some maintenance (like we just did).
[01:36] <MikeRotch> bruenig i get this error.. The partition could not be unmounted from the following mountpoints:
[01:36] <MikeRotch> /media/hda1Most likely other partitions are also mounted on these mountpoints. You are advised to unmount them manually.
[01:36] <bulmer> dissection no, i meant because of the file system it uses, like reiserfs or ext2/3 it has journaling capabilities
[01:36] <ladydoor> bradley: basically, Linux is the kernel that both of them boot, and the core usable system is GNU utilities, and then other things build from there.
[01:36] <bruenig> MikeRotch, try sudo umount /media/hda1
[01:36] <nickrud> chattr, no, you should have two links in mods-enabled; if you do ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*, you'll see they are all pointers to files in mods-available
[01:36] <MikeRotch> thanks 1 second
[01:36] <bruenig> bradley, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computer_science%29
[01:36] <bulmer> sport maybe it does support the file:///   I forget what this is called like the http services?
[01:37] <Puppy_> bradley: are you a windows user?
[01:37] <dissection> greywhind: Okay, atleast I know what to do if that happens again. This channel has been so helpful :D
[01:37] <bulmer> sport maybe it does not* support the file:/// yet on your system*   I forget what this is called like the http services?
[01:37] <chattr> nickrud,  i got only lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2007-07-21 01:35 php5* -> ../mods-avaible/php5*
[01:37] <greywhind> bradley: a kernel is a program that forms the basic elements you need to run other programs, even basic ones like a graphical environment.
[01:37] <bulmer> dissection, well someday when you get good at  it..come back and help others as payback :)
[01:38] <bruenig> kernel is the middle man between software and hardware
[01:38] <MikeRotch> bruenig, thanks, it is formattednow
[01:38] <dissection> bulmer: I'm here to do that with the bit of knowledge I have for people who're know lesser than me.
[01:38] <dissection> Although those are very rare cases but I'll still do whatever I can =)
[01:38] <bruenig> MikeRotch, ok so mount it again, and then copy everything over onto it, cp -R / /media/hda1
[01:39] <nickrud> chattr, ok, now that was odd. do sudo unlink /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5*
[01:39] <chattr> ok
[01:39] <greywhind> maxtype: if you still have problems booting with "C" held down, please send me a pm. i'll be afk for about 20 minutes.
[01:39] <bruenig> MikeRotch, don't do that, i think there is a better way
[01:39] <MikeRotch> bruenig when i right click in gparted the new reiserfs
[01:39] <bulmer> dissection alright....enjoy your ubuntu
[01:39] <MikeRotch> i get no mount option
[01:39] <chattr> nickrud,  ok done
[01:40] <greywhind> dissection: see you around. i'm leaving for a little bit.
[01:40] <bruenig> MikeRotch, ok, do "grep ntfs /etc/fstab" and paste the output
[01:40] <LinuxProbie> Muahahahahaha, no mroe keyring. *rejoice*
[01:40] <bulmer> greywhind, just an fyi..after booting from liveCD..one can su to root and then chroot /
[01:40] <jrib> nickrud: a2enmod is less error-prone fwiw
[01:40] <bulmer> this will free up the cdrom and it can be reused
[01:40] <nickrud> chattr, cut and paste this:    cd /etc/apache2/mods-enabled && sudo ln -s ../mods-available/php5   .     <---
[01:40] <MikeRotch> UUID=EA147C00147BCDD7 /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[01:40] <MikeRotch> UUID=3808157E08153C76 /media/hdc1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[01:40] <MikeRotch> UUID=6EA8CE45A8CE0B91 /media/hdd1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[01:40] <MikeRotch> UUID=E4903E04903DDE2C /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[01:41] <kitche> !paste
[01:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:41] <bruenig> wow you had a lot of ntfs partitions
[01:41] <greywhind> bulmer: thanks.
[01:41] <MikeRotch> i have alot of extra storage
[01:41] <MikeRotch> that came from windows
[01:41] <squee> How do i change what keys adjust brightness?
[01:41] <Fallen[oqp] > i have problem using the ubuntu packet nvidia-glx-new, i can't start X with Driver "nvidia" in xorg.conf, how to fixe it ?
[01:41] <nickrud> jrib, thank you very much, never seen that one
[01:41] <Fallen[oqp] > it ells me about wfb :o
[01:41] <Fallen[oqp] > tells*
[01:41] <bulmer> greywhind, you're welcome
[01:41] <sport> bulmer: well i got it to work but it only shows local files regardless of what i enter , even totally made up numbers
[01:41] <dissection> greywhind: See you dude, and thanks again
[01:41] <greywhind> dissection: bye for now
[01:42] <chattr> nickrud,  ok done no there is a file php5
[01:42] <bulmer> sport do you expect another puter to show you their directories without logging on them?
[01:42] <maxtype> anyone know if apple remote works by default with linux mce?
[01:42] <bruenig> MikeRotch, do sudo mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[01:42] <bulmer> sport do you expect another puter to show you their directories without logging on to* them?
[01:42] <nickrud> chattr, you should have both php5.conf and php5.load in mods-enabled now
[01:42] <MikeRotch> basically bruenig i got my 1st partition formatted reiserfs and the mountpoint says nothing but the second partition say mountpoint /
[01:42] <MikeRotch> in case that is useful
[01:42] <sport> bulmer well arent lans open...
[01:43] <nickrud> jrib, also learned about htop today. Two useful things
[01:43] <bulmer> sport lans maybe open but not other puters :) security?
[01:43] <NETWizz> Back
[01:43] <NETWizz> Had to fix ubuntu
[01:43] <NETWizz> the update messed it up
[01:43] <NETWizz> X didn't start
[01:43] <NETWizz> Had to
[01:43] <bruenig> MikeRotch, does that command work?
[01:43] <NETWizz> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:43] <sport> bulmer: so if i disabled the firewalls...
[01:43] <MikeRotch> ok now bruenig, i got the mountpoint on the new reiserfs partition as "/dev/hda1 /media/hda1"
[01:44] <MikeRotch> tthere should be two?
[01:44] <NETWizz> then .\NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
[01:44] <bruenig> MikeRotch, you changed it in /etc/fstab you mean?
[01:44] <riaal> firestarter is blocking ping etc, on eth1. eth1 is a local interface and I do not want the firewall to interfear whit it, How do I disable eth1 and not eth1? =S
[01:44] <NETWizz> And let it build me a new Kernel INterface
[01:44] <NETWizz> then reboot
[01:44] <jrib> !enter | NETWizz
[01:44] <ubotu> NETWizz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:44] <riaal> firestarter is blocking ping etc, on eth1. eth1 is a local interface and I do not want the firewall to interfear whit it, How do I disable eth1 and not eth0? =S
[01:44] <bulmer> sport what is your goal? what are you attempting to do?
[01:44] <MikeRotch> no i didn't do anything you haven't said to do
[01:44] <MikeRotch> i did look at that file in gedit but nothing else
[01:44] <bradley> I am a windows user. Greywhind, does windows have a kernal?
[01:44] <bruenig> MikeRotch, ok so the /dev/hda1 newly created reiser partition is mounted at /media/hda1
[01:44] <bulmer> riaal, you can flush out the iptables rules..
[01:44] <sport> bulmer allow all computer on the star network... to be networked
[01:45] <nickrud> chattr, does it look right? if so, restart apache and take a look
[01:45] <bruenig> MikeRotch, this is correct?
[01:45] <MikeRotch> it's mounted at...
[01:45] <MikeRotch> "/media/disk, /media/hda1"
[01:45] <MikeRotch> there are two...
[01:45] <bulmer> sport they can be networked, but do you expect any user from one host to access another host without security?
[01:45] <jgoguen> bradley: Windows does have a kernel, and has since NT...but you never hear anyone talk about it :)
[01:45] <bruenig> MikeRotch, do "grep hda1 /etc/mtab"
[01:46] <sport> well do allow at firewalls i mean set them as exceptions?
[01:46] <MikeRotch> bruenig
[01:46] <MikeRotch> /dev/hda1 /media/disk reiserfs rw,nosuid,nodev 0 0
[01:46] <MikeRotch> /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 reiserfs rw 0 0
[01:46] <bradley> Before windows NT the kernal was DOS for windows?
[01:46] <bruenig> MikeRotch, hmmm, do sudo umount /dev/hda1, and then do sudo mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[01:46] <bulmer> sport what you have in mind is not good enuff for security standpoint...
[01:46] <chattr> nickrud,  done but nothing changed
[01:47] <chattr> white browser
[01:47] <jgoguen> bradley: before that, Windows ran as basically a graphical thing on top of DOS, especially before Win95
[01:47] <bruenig> MikeRotch, it shouldn't be mounted in two different places I don't believe
[01:47] <chattr> php5.config and php5.load are in the directory enabled
[01:47] <jrib> chattr: make sure you clear your browser's cache and refresh
[01:47] <nickrud> chattr, show me /etc/apache2/mods-enabled and /etc/apache2/mods-available
[01:47] <MikeRotch> same thing in Gparted
[01:47] <musashi> anyone know if there is an irc channel for help with dvd issues?
[01:47] <jgoguen> bradley: even Win95/98/ME was IMO just a poorly done graphical cover over a bad implementation of DOS :)
[01:47] <sport> bulmer : what do i do  ..halp
[01:47] <NETWizz> I like compling my own video driver now
[01:47] <NETWizz> it is so easy
[01:47] <MikeRotch> bruenig, also same thing here
[01:47] <MikeRotch> /dev/hda1 /media/disk reiserfs rw,nosuid,nodev 0 0
[01:47] <MikeRotch> /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 reiserfs rw 0 0
[01:48] <MikeRotch> can i just umount the media/disk one?
[01:48] <MikeRotch> or no?
[01:48] <nickrud> chattr, but check jrib's suggestion first, it's quicker :)
[01:48] <bruenig> MikeRotch, ok um sudo umount /media/disk
[01:48] <bruenig> yeah
[01:48] <NETWizz> How is the official Linux Kernel compiled?
[01:48] <LinuxProbie> what's a good media burning program for ubuntu?
[01:48] <bulmer> sport what is your goal? what are you attempting to do? you want it secured or left wide open?
[01:48] <bruenig> NETWizz, with gcc
[01:48] <NETWizz>  k3b
[01:48] <NETWizz> I know
[01:48] <NETWizz> but how do they compile the restricted modules
[01:48] <NETWizz> the common
[01:48] <MikeRotch> opk bruenig now says
[01:48] <MikeRotch> /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 reiserfs rw 0 0
[01:48] <NETWizz> and headers
[01:48] <jrib> NETWizz: stop pressing enter so much
[01:48] <bruenig> MikeRotch, alright so make sure there is nothing in /media/hda1
[01:49] <LaserLine> LinuxProbie: GnomeBaker perhaps
[01:49] <MikeRotch> yes bruenig it is empty
[01:49] <chattr> NickPresta,  http://pastebin.com/m1cf9cbd9
[01:49] <johnSmith> can anyone recommend any other good channels. i want to try the irc client out as its my first time
[01:49] <LinuxProbie> I think I have that one....*rummage*
[01:49] <bruenig> MikeRotch, ok your install now is on hda2 right?
[01:49] <sport> bulmer: id like a fairly secure lan network. is there a option for password access maybe.
[01:50] <MikeRotch> yea on mountpoint "/"
[01:50] <jgoguen> LinuxProbie: k3b is good too
[01:50] <chattr> jrib i refreshed and cleared the cache but not effect
[01:50] <johnSmith> k3b what server is that on
[01:50] <bruenig> MikeRotch, do sudo dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hda1, this make take a while as it is literally copying bit for bit everything on hda2
[01:50] <bulmer> sport before you get into networking of computers maybe you need to pick up a book on basics of computer security..
[01:51] <nickrud> chattr, are you sure you restarted apache? sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[01:51] <musashi> johnSmith: this one is a busy channel. i'd find a local channel in your area https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat smaller and more fun
[01:51] <MikeRotch> ok bruenig i did it and no message as of yet
[01:51] <chattr> nick yes
[01:51] <chattr> NickPresta,  yes
[01:51] <chattr> argh
[01:51] <sport> bulmer: any advised reading?
[01:51] <bruenig> MikeRotch, yeah depending on the size of your stuff and cpu and such, could take many minutes
[01:51] <chattr> Nickrude yes
[01:51] <bruenig> or even hours I suppose if it is massive
[01:51] <MikeRotch> cool, yea it's just sittin gin the white.
[01:51] <MikeRotch> doing nothing haha
[01:52] <bulmer> sport: nothing specific..i just google for easy readings
[01:52] <jgoguen> johnSmith: check in Synaptic, it should be there...I've got all the repositories enabled, I'm not sure which one actually has it...
[01:52] <sport> bulmer before i go can i ask how long u've been into computers
[01:53] <MikeRotch> bruenig do you mind if i add you
[01:53] <bruenig> MikeRotch, add me?
[01:53] <moomin1> hi, If I remove a network card and replace it with another one eth1 gets used for the new card and eth0 is just unused.. how can i reclaim eth0 ?
[01:53] <bulmer> sport ummm you have heard of punch cards? hehehe
[01:53] <MikeRotch> yes bruenig. i am using kopete. i can add people to buddy list
[01:53] <Varsendaggr> howdy
[01:53] <MikeRotch> even for IRC people
[01:53] <bruenig> that's fine I guess
[01:53] <sport> bulmer: mmkay i catch ur meaning you could be my dad :D
[01:54] <nickrud> chattr, by accident, you got my real nickname right: nick rude :)  Then I'm at a loss. you have the right module, it's linked in, and apache should have seen it when it's restarted.
[01:54] <bulmer> sport right o...lolz
[01:54] <MikeRotch> bruenig there shoudl be no message until it finishes right?
[01:54] <bruenig> MikeRotch, you can edit the other text files while it does that, do gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst, and scroll down to the bottom, it should be pretty self explanatory, but where it says root (hd0,1) change it to (hd0,0)
[01:54] <bruenig> MikeRotch, right
[01:54] <sport> bulmer: any terms to mind while researching security?
[01:54] <chattr> Nickrud yes i dont understand why i dont starts
[01:54] <MikeRotch> thanks
[01:54] <MikeRotch> 1 second
[01:55] <chattr> Nickrud looks like the php not starts
[01:55] <nickrud> chattr, one last check: ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5*   <-- show me that on a pastebin
[01:55] <bruenig> MikeRotch, you will want to do that to all of the entries, recovery mode and everything
[01:55] <bulmer> sport just the basics for you, single computer security to get started, and then work yourself towards networking
[01:55] <MikeRotch> bruenoig after i put password after that command...
[01:55] <MikeRotch> (gedit:8228): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:55] <MikeRotch> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:55] <Varsendaggr> hey anyone here play Assaultcube or the new saurbratten
[01:55] <MikeRotch> but it still opened
[01:55] <MikeRotch> is that normal
[01:55] <nickrud> MikeRotch, yes
[01:55] <Varsendaggr> it is awesome
[01:55] <bruenig> MikeRotch, yeah that is a harmless thing, it doesn't mean anything
[01:55] <rockets> Is there any way to roll out predefined installations of Ubuntu, similar to Red Hat's kickstart files?
[01:56] <MikeRotch> thanks :-)
[01:56] <chattr> nickrud /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf  /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load
[01:56] <nickrud> chattr, no, ls -l . That will verify that the links are right
[01:56] <MikeRotch> bruenig so i change after the Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic
[01:56] <MikeRotch> and all the other ones too??
[01:56] <MikeRotch> they all say (hd0,1)
[01:57] <chattr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 133 2007-07-21 01:45 /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf
[01:57] <chattr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  59 2007-07-21 01:45 /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load
[01:57] <bruenig> MikeRotch, right, everywhere you see root at the beginning of a line, then change it to (hd0,0)
[01:57] <bruenig> MikeRotch, as counting starts from 0
[01:57] <MikeRotch> do i need to delete Otther Operating Systems
[01:57] <MikeRotch> it still says windows is in (hd0,0)
[01:57] <fjoesne> where can i find additional information about the ubuntu packages i install
[01:57] <fjoesne> ? :)
[01:57] <bruenig> MikeRotch, yeah delete that since you don't have windows anymore, delete all of that stuff, the title, chainloader, all of that
[01:57] <nickrud> chattr, ok, the links still didn't get made right.   do sudo unlink /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5*
[01:58] <moomin1> anyone able to help me out with my eth0 problem :)  I dont mind waiting in line .. just want to know if somone will be able to help in a min
[01:58] <Busata> There any channel on this server where I can ask curl-related problems?
[01:58] <jsestri2> X can't find drivers to run gdm, whats the problem?
[01:58] <EdsipeR> is possible to get gnome 2.8 in feisty ?
[01:58] <bulmer> fjoesne, as a start  dpkp -i packagename
[01:58] <nickrud> chattr, then, using the tool jrib pointed out, do    sudo a2enmod php5
[01:58] <MikeRotch> bruenig shoudl i wait to save till terminal finishes copying?
[01:58] <bruenig> MikeRotch, no
[01:58] <stroyan> rockets: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility
[01:59] <MikeRotch> ok bruenig it;s saved
[01:59] <bulmer> fjoesne, as a start  dpkp -l packagename   <--an eel not an i
[01:59] <jgoguen> moomin1: if we know what your problem is, we can tell you if we can help :)
[01:59] <EnsGabe> How can I change the font used by the terminals on my machine?
[01:59] <squee> How do i change what keys adjust brightness?
[01:59] <bruenig> MikeRotch, ok so the last text file, gksudo gedit /etc/fstab, you want to edit the /dev/hda1 thing to now mount to / instead of /media/hda1, and change the /dev/hda2 to somewhere else, if you want, you can mount it in /media/hda2
[02:00] <moomin1> jgoguen: ... If I remove a network card and replace it with another one eth1 gets used for the new card and eth0 is just unused.. how can i reclaim eth0 ?
[02:00] <nickrud> EnsGabe, in the terminal menu, edit->current profile
[02:00] <chattr> Nickrud. Module php5 installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable.
[02:00] <bruenig> MikeRotch, or not mount it at all if you want
[02:00] <jsestri2> Wow upgrading versions of ubuntu is such crap...makes me wish I had windows
[02:00] <nickrud> chattr, do what it said
[02:00] <jgoguen> moomin1: so you open your computer, take out the NIC, put a new one in, and now this new one is eth1 and eth0 is there but nothing...right?
[02:00] <bruenig> jsestri2, upgrading through windows requires full reinstall, you can do that on ubuntu too
[02:00] <EnsGabe> nickrud, real terminals, not terminal emulators
[02:01] <jsestri2> bruenig: just venting really...but I am getting pissed that I upgraded dapper
[02:01] <fjoesne> bulmer: thanks
[02:01] <moomin1> jgoguen: yes.. i think eth0 is linked to the old MAC address but it will not be used now
[02:01] <chattr> run: command not found ..
[02:01] <MikeRotch> in gparted the mountpoint for dev/hda1 is /media/hda1
[02:01] <bruenig> jsestri2, ubuntu's discrete release cycle bugs me too, that is why I switched to a rolling release so you don't have to deal with all of the upgrades at once therefore less breakage
[02:01] <MikeRotch> but i want to edit that to make it boot from "/"?
[02:01] <bruenig> MikeRotch, right, change it to /
[02:02] <jsestri2> bruenig I would except at school I have limited data transfer per day...
[02:02] <MikeRotch> also it still says ntfs??
[02:02] <jgoguen> moomin1: open a terminal (Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal) and use this command: cat /etc/iftab
[02:02] <MikeRotch> bruenig also it still says ntfs?
[02:02] <bruenig> MikeRotch, change it to reiserfs
[02:02] <jgoguen> moomin1: paste that at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give me the URL you get
[02:02] <bruenig> MikeRotch, paste the line when you finish it
[02:03] <MikeRotch> # /dev/hda2
[02:03] <MikeRotch> UUID=7a7dc1e9-8f72-4492-b803-e620aa6c7533 /               reiserfs notail          0       1
[02:03] <MikeRotch> # /dev/hda1
[02:03] <MikeRotch> UUID=EA147C00147BCDD7 /     reiserfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[02:03] <jsestri2> bruenig: You wouldn't happen to be able to help with a hang up at boot time would you?
[02:03] <MikeRotch> sorry that is both partitions
[02:03] <chattr> nickrud it works now
[02:03] <bruenig> MikeRotch, you have them both mounting at /
[02:03] <jgoguen> moomin1: also give the command 'ifconfig' and tell me the Hwaddr for eth0 and eth1
[02:03] <MikeRotch> yea that's why i asked you
[02:03] <nickrud> chattr, I'm gonna remember that tool, you should too :)
[02:03] <chainzawz> Hey guys, I have checked the forum and I can't seem to find an answer.  Anywasy when I try to install the OS on my computer I get a disk 80 error as well as an error that says corrupt kernal...any ideas?
[02:03] <dusk__> how can i get pass rapidshare hour limit with ubuntu???
[02:03] <MikeRotch> my gPrated  says /media/hda1 is the first partition's mountpioint
[02:04] <moomin1> jgoguen: ah i see .. i guessing i just remove the eth0 line
[02:04] <SpankBox> dusk__, pay
[02:04] <chattr> nickrud what does this command normally do?
[02:04] <nickrud> chattr, which one?
[02:04] <bruenig> MikeRotch, don't worry about gparted, that is where it is currently mounted which is why gparted says that, we are changing it so that next time it mounts at /
[02:04] <chattr> a2enmod
[02:04] <jgoguen> moomin1: likely so...and change 'eth1' to 'eth0' after that, and reboot :)
[02:04] <moomin1> jgoguen: thanks :D
[02:04] <nickrud> chattr, it means apache2 enable module
[02:04] <chainzawz> Hey guys, I have checked the forum and I can't seem to find an answer.  Anywasy when I try to install the OS on my computer I get a disk 80 error as well as an error that says corrupt kernal...any ideas?
[02:04] <Kevin4381> I can't get my ati card working ... after following the ati unofficial wiki a few times; the OpenGL vendor string in fglrxinfo still reads "Tungsten Graphics, Inc"
[02:04] <Kevin4381> I don't know what happened, xorg.conf keeps disapearing too.
[02:05] <MikeRotch> bruenig so what shoudl i do temp change the /dev/hda2 mointpoint to somethign else?
[02:05] <allbert> #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007
[02:05] <nickrud> chattr, it automates making those links we were trying to get. If you do ls -l mods-enabled , you'll see the new ones you just make
[02:05] <chattr> nickrud if i want my sql now do i only need to sudo apt-get install mysql ?
[02:05] <nickrud> *made
[02:05] <allbert> Linux linuxgeeks.us 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:05] <bruenig> MikeRotch, if you want it mounted, for extra storage perhaps, I would mount it in /media/hda2
[02:05] <MikeRotch> sweet thanks
[02:05] <bruenig> MikeRotch, paste the lines again, just to make sure
[02:05] <jsestri2> How can i setup a minimal x configureation?
[02:05] <MikeRotch> bruenig
[02:05] <MikeRotch> # /dev/hda2
[02:05] <MikeRotch> UUID=7a7dc1e9-8f72-4492-b803-e620aa6c7533 /media/hda2               reiserfs notail          0       1
[02:05] <MikeRotch> # /dev/hda1
[02:05] <MikeRotch> UUID=EA147C00147BCDD7 /     reiserfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[02:05] <chainzawz> Can someone help me installing the OS?
[02:06] <MikeRotch> is the second one need all that stuff under the reiser
[02:06] <nickrud> chattr, mysql-server-5.0
[02:06] <MikeRotch> reiserfs**
[02:06] <ninjagumbyJEW> * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 744 * Tonk
[02:06] <Olijew> * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 744 * Tonks, Lupin,
[02:06] <HanSoloJEW> * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 7
[02:06] <Vagina> * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 744 * Tonks, Lupin,
[02:06] <AlottaFagina> * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 744 * Tonks, 
[02:06] <MoneySignJEW> * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 744 * To
[02:06] -ninjagumbyJEW:#ubuntu- * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 744 * Tonks
[02:06] <Snape> * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on
[02:06] -MoneySignJEW:#ubuntu- * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 744 * Ton
[02:06] -HanSoloJEW:#ubuntu- * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 74
[02:06] -Olijew:#ubuntu- * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 744 * Tonks, Lupin, 
[02:06] -Snape:#ubuntu- * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on 
[02:06] -AlottaFagina:#ubuntu- * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 744 * Tonks, L
[02:06] -Vagina:#ubuntu- * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 744 * Tonks, Lupin, 
[02:06] <bruenig> MikeRotch, ok first thing you want to do is change UUID=blahblah, to the actual name, so change the first one to /dev/hda2 and the second one to /dev/hda1
[02:06] <Ovaries> * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 744 * Tonks, Lupi
[02:06] -Ovaries:#ubuntu- * Burbage dies on pg. 12 * Hedwig gets Avada Kedavra'd, dies on pg. 56 * Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78 * Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159 * Wormtail dies on pg. 471 * Dobby dies on pg. 476 * Snape gets bitten on the neck by Nagini, dies on pg. 658 * Fred Weasley gets blown up, dies on pg. 637 * Harry gets fucked up by Voldemort on pg. 704 o Comes back to life on pg. 724 * Voldemort gets killed by his own rebounding curse (n00b) on pg. 744 * Tonks, Lupin
[02:06] <bruenig> !ops
[02:06] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[02:06] <jsestri2> lol wtf
[02:06] <dissection> Hah
[02:06] <ninjagumby> wtf
[02:06] <MikeRotch> that's not funny
[02:06] <bruenig> MikeRotch, ok first thing you want to do is change UUID=blahblah, to the actual name, so change the first one to /dev/hda2 and the second one to /dev/hda1
[02:07] <chainzawz> Hey guys, I have checked the forum and I can't seem to find an answer.  Anywasy when I try to install the OS on my computer I get a disk 80 error as well as an error that says corrupt kernal...any ideas?
[02:07] <nickrud> spoiler alert!
[02:07] <chattr> nickrud,  for normal local use too?
[02:07] <Kevin4381> can I REINSTALL ubuntu without losing the contents of my /home/user/ folder??
[02:07] <bruenig> Kevin4381, is that directory on another partition?
[02:07] <jayone> hello all
[02:07] <Kevin4381> no
[02:07] <Kevin4381> bruenig:
[02:07] <MikeRotch> bruenig
[02:07] <MikeRotch> # /dev/hda2
[02:07] <MikeRotch> UUID=/dev/hda2 /media/hda2               reiserfs notail          0       1
[02:07] <MikeRotch> # /dev/hda1
[02:07] <MikeRotch> UUID=/dev/hda1 /     reiserfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[02:08] <nickrud> chattr, yes. I use those for running a server on this laptop where I test drupal code before putting it up on the real server
[02:08] <jrib> MikeRotch: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:08] <chainzawz> Hey guys, I have checked the forum and I can't seem to find an answer.  Anywasy when I try to install the OS on my computer I get a disk 80 error as well as an error that says corrupt kernal...any ideas?
[02:08] <bruenig> MikeRotch, no delete the UUID= from in front of them
[02:08] <MikeRotch> oh sh*t don't change the numbers???
[02:08] <Kevin4381> bruenig: there is no way to reinstall without losing that folder, then?
[02:08] <chainzawz> Hey guys, I have checked the forum and I can't seem to find an answer.  Anywasy when I try to install the OS on my computer I get a disk 80 error as well as an error that says corrupt kernal...any ideas?
[02:09] <bruenig> Kevin4381, backup and put it back perhaps but in one way or another the partition will need to be formatted so that will go with it
[02:09] <jayone> anyone here from Charlotte, NC
[02:09] <Megaqwerty> MikeRotch: (05:03:15 PM) MikeRotch: # /dev/hda2
[02:09] <Megaqwerty> (05:03:15 PM) MikeRotch: UUID=7a7dc1e9-8f72-4492-b803-e620aa6c7533 /               reiserfs notail          0       1
[02:09] <Megaqwerty> (05:03:15 PM) MikeRotch: # /dev/hda1
[02:09] <Megaqwerty> (05:03:15 PM) MikeRotch: UUID=EA147C00147BCDD7 /     reiserfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[02:09] <nickrud> MikeRotch, back up home onto the /dev/hda2, then put it back when done
[02:09] <dn4> ok I have a bios that automatically has the bootup using an onboard VGA port, well that port is broken and when the system boots up I get nothing. Is there a way to scrap the current bios and install a different bios that allows for the AGP slot to become the current video card??
[02:09] <chattr> nickrud, and this will work without problems now
[02:09] <chainzawz> Hey guys, I have checked the forum and I can't seem to find an answer.  Anywasy when I try to install the OS on my computer I get a disk 80 error as well as an error that says corrupt kernal...any ideas?
[02:09] <chattr> ?
[02:09] <Kevin4381> bruenig:  - I was hoping to avoid that becuase its like 20 GBs and it just takes a while to copy the data--I already have a backup of it all.
[02:09] <chainzawz> Hey guys, I have checked the forum and I can't seem to find an answer.  Anywasy when I try to install the OS on my computer I get a disk 80 error as well as an error that says corrupt kernal...any ideas?
[02:09] <MikeRotch> bruenig yea i can undo changes
[02:09] <bruenig> Kevin4381, right well there is no way around the formatting
[02:10] <MikeRotch> now bruenig i have the numbers back
[02:10] <MikeRotch> haha
[02:10] <jayone> chainzawz, did you check the disk for errors?
[02:10] <Kevin4381> however.. it sounds to me like you are suggesting I put it on a seperate partition in the future
[02:10] <jsestri2> What happens if I run apt-get dist-upgrade without changing the sources list?
[02:10] <Kevin4381> whats a good size for ubuntu's partition?
[02:10] <chainzawz> Yes doesn't come up with anything....
[02:10] <LinuxProbie> how do i view processes and kill the broken one?
[02:10] <bruenig> MikeRotch, the numbers are going to change, so it won't mount anything
[02:10] <jayone> you checked it using the utility option when booting the disk?
[02:10] <databuddy> gah
[02:10] <databuddy> did ops get the spammerz
[02:10] <bruenig> MikeRotch, that is why it is better now to use the actual thing
[02:10] <nickrud> chattr, Worked For Me
[02:10] <MikeRotch> just ell me where to put the /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2
[02:10] <MikeRotch> i am gettging confused so sorry
[02:10] <MikeRotch> :-(
[02:11] <chattr> Nickrud ok lol :)
[02:11] <chainzawz> When I check it with that I get an error saying that the kernal is corrupt
[02:11] <bruenig> MikeRotch, pastebin those lines and i will edit them
[02:11] <bruenig> !paste | MikeRotch
[02:11] <ubotu> MikeRotch: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:11] <Grigory> cockingshits
[02:11] <chattr> nickrud i will go offline and thanks for you help
[02:11] <Grigory> ubotu: cockingshits
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cockingshits - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <jrib> !language | Grigory
[02:12] <nickrud> chattr, yw. Wished I'd known that tool sooner, woulda saved a lot of time. Take care
[02:12] <Grigory> ubotu: cockingshits
[02:12] <Some_Person> Why doesn't Ubuntu put Freevo in the repositories?
[02:12] <Grigory> chattr: cockingshits
[02:12] <nickrud> bye bye
[02:12] <chattr> nickrud ok :)
[02:12] <MikeRotch> bruenig what syntax do i paste in?
[02:12] <bruenig> Some_Person, what is freevo
[02:12] <bruenig> MikeRotch, it doesn't really mattery, raw is fine
[02:12] <bruenig> bash maybe
[02:12] <bruenig> all that affects is highlighting
[02:12] <LinuxProbie> how do i view processes and kill the broken one?
[02:12] <Some_Person> bruenig: it's like Windows Media Center, but free and for Linux
[02:13] <MikeRotch> ok bruenig this is what i get
[02:13] <MikeRotch> # /dev/hda2
[02:13] <MikeRotch> UUID=7a7dc1e9-8f72-4492-b803-e620aa6c7533 /media/hda2               reiserfs notail          0       1
[02:13] <MikeRotch> # /dev/hda1
[02:13] <MikeRotch> UUID=EA147C00147BCDD7 /     reiserfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[02:13] <bruenig> sigh
[02:13] <Megaqwerty> LinuxProbie: top will show processes
[02:13] <MikeRotch> i filled in everything
[02:13] <bruenig> MikeRotch, put it in the pastebin and give me the url to your paste
[02:13] <Megaqwerty> LinuxProbie: ps aux will also do so
[02:13] <piedoggie> can't play dvd.  followed inst in faq but it doesn't work
[02:13] <LinuxProbie> Megaqwerty, *blank  look*
[02:13] <databuddy> !dvd
[02:13] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:13] <MikeRotch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30628/
[02:13] <MikeRotch> i guess
[02:13] <Megaqwerty> LinuxProbie: I have no idea what you want then
[02:13] <piedoggie> did that
[02:14] <NETWizz> Okay
[02:14] <piedoggie> but wil chek again
[02:14] <NETWizz> I got VMWARE working again
[02:14] <LinuxProbie> Megaqwerty, firefox is frozen, and i need to kill it's process
[02:14] <Megaqwerty> LinuxProbie: ah, killall firefox-bin
[02:14] <Some_Person> Freevo takes A LONG TIME to get going on Ubuntu, mainly because of the dependencies and the fact that it's not in any repository
[02:15] <MikeRotch> did you see the link bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30628/
[02:15] <bruenig> MikeRotch, yes here is what it should look like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30631/
[02:15] <LinuxProbie> thx
[02:15] <Megaqwerty> LinuxProbie: you're welcome
[02:15] <bruenig> MikeRotch, might want to space that a little bit so that it is easier to read or not, up to you
[02:15] <xoqa> hello :) anyone know of a command line pdf reader?
[02:15] <stroyan> Megaqwerty: you can also use xkill and click on a window to 'kill' the process that started it by closing the X server connection.
[02:15] <MikeRotch> whoa ok thanks
[02:16] <MikeRotch> so now i save?
[02:16] <bruenig> MikeRotch, yes, after you save to sudo mkdir /media/hda2 so that hda2 has a place to mount and you should be good to go
[02:16] <bruenig> do*
[02:16] <matthe1> crap
[02:16] <matthe1> i need help
[02:16] <NETWizz> I cannot empty my trash
[02:17] <matthe1> 2 problems
[02:17] <jrib> xoqa: well you could use 'pdftotext'
[02:17] <Megaqwerty> stroyan: from the manpage: This command does not provide any warranty that the application whose connection to the X server is closed will abort nicely, or even abort at all. All this command does is to close the connection to the X server. Many existing applications do indeed  abort
[02:17] <Megaqwerty>        when their connection to the X server is closed, but some can choose to continue.
[02:17] <NETWizz> all the files in it have this lock icon over them
[02:17] <matthe1> first my swap drive not mount...
[02:17] <MikeRotch> also brunieg the first terminal is STILL copying... is that normal my whole OS is like 3 gig.
[02:17] <MikeRotch> haha
[02:17] <matthe1> second i cant open any programs in 1 drive
[02:17] <stroyan> Megaqwerty: True, it is not a sure kill.  But it avoids the mystery of process names for applications.
[02:18] <jayone> hello all
[02:18] <Megaqwerty> stroyan: yes, but bash's tab completion clears that up almost 100% of the time
[02:18] <jayone> anyone have experience with install on a thinkpad t40?
[02:18] <matthe1> can any one help?
[02:18] <bruenig> MikeRotch, it might take quite a while, everything is configured though, so once it does finish, just reboot, if all is well delete everything in /media/hda2 and it will all be switched
[02:18] <Megaqwerty> and not all processes run in the GUI
[02:19] <matthe1> how can u mount my swap drive?
[02:19] <MikeRotch> but it should boot to the first partition first now?
[02:19] <NETWizz> fixed
[02:19] <NETWizz> Had to take ownership of my .Trash
[02:19] <NETWizz> with chown
[02:19] <bruenig> MikeRotch, right, but all the files will also still be in /dev/hda2 since all you have done is copied it
[02:19] <MikeRotch> nice
[02:19] <jayone> hello to all
[02:19] <MikeRotch> thanks alot for your help.
[02:19] <NETWizz> sudo chown -R NTWizz ./Trash
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> does anyone know where to download Wine Fonts"
[02:19] <MikeRotch> i willw ait now for it to copy haha
[02:19] <NETWizz> from my home directory
[02:19] <NETWizz> annoying as hell to have to fix the permissions on my trash
[02:20] <matthe1> hmmm
[02:20] <matthe1> i need help
[02:20] <MikeRotch> Indy i believe you can install wine-doors
[02:20] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak, for use with ubuntu you mean?
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: well, the only app i have under wine(Pokerstars), the font is awfulk
[02:21] <MikeRotch> that is how i got my fonts for it
[02:21] <MikeRotch> was easy
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> MikeRotch: wine-doors?..
[02:21] <bruenig> pokerstars run great here
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[02:21] <bruenig> runs*
[02:21] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak, you can try  ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts/
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: it runs great, but the font is terrible.
[02:21] <matthe1> any one?
[02:21] <stroyan> matthe1: swap isn't mounted.  It is activated with swapon and deactivated with swapoff.
[02:21] <bruenig> the fonts is good I mean
[02:21] <bruenig> font*
[02:21] <matthe1> ?
[02:21] <matthe1> i dunno
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: well, when I reinstalled ubuntu the other day after doing some significant hardware upgrades, since then, the font has been awful
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: that folder is empty
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> so i guess i should download a font there?
[02:22] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, I have had updates where wine messes up fonts, I figured out (I think) that if wine has opengl enabled but you don't have gl enabled on your computer, fonts look terrible
[02:22] <NETWizz> Does ubuntu support SE Linux?
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, wonder if thats the problem..
[02:23] <lazellama> Can someone help me install lincity-ng
[02:23] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, when I recompiled it without opengl, and that was the only change, it looked fine
[02:23] <greywhind> maxtype: are you still there?
[02:23] <greywhind> guess not.
[02:23] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak, mines empty also, but I know little to nothing about wine. Just use it for ie6
[02:23] <matthe1> my swap wont work:(
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> MikeRotch: where did you find wine-doors?..i ts not in the repos.
[02:24] <Megaqwerty> IndyGunFreak: http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/
[02:24] <bruenig> its on the tubes
[02:24] <travis1> lol use the tubes luke!
[02:25] <MikeRotch> my buddie told me the command
[02:25] <MikeRotch> and i dunno i got it
[02:25] <MikeRotch> let me see if i can find
[02:25] <travis1> heh
[02:25] <travis1> command history ftw
[02:25] <bruenig> winedoors is just a wine package manager
[02:25] <bruenig> I don't think it installs fonts iirc
[02:25] <stroyan> matthe1: Did your swap stop working, or was this an install problem?
[02:25] <bruenig> it is just so that you can uninstall applications from wine without chasing down all the files yourself
[02:25] <matthe1> 6.10 to 7.04
[02:25] <matthe1> and stoped worked
[02:25] <MikeRotch> ok indygunfreak
[02:25] <matthe1> :(
[02:26] <MikeRotch> i found some commands that you could try for adding source or something
[02:26] <MikeRotch> and a key
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> MikeRotch: installing now.
[02:26] <MikeRotch> oh ok then envermind
[02:27] <stroyan> matthe1: What does    grep swap /etc/fstab    report?
[02:27] <NETWizz> oh
[02:27] <NETWizz> you can fix your swap
[02:27] <NETWizz> the problem is the uuid
[02:27] <NETWizz> doesn't match
[02:27] <alecw1> I'm a noob, and I'm trying to install "thunderbird". I looked on synaptics, and I saw a standalone 1.5 version, but I want the new v2. Can someone help?
[02:27] <matthe1> music@music-desktop:~$ grep swap /etc/fstab
[02:27] <matthe1> music@music-desktop:~$
[02:28] <UnknownUniverse> WHAT ARE THE KEYS FOR 3D CUBE EFFECT
[02:28] <jsestri2> Can I run the install from the CD and install to a partition that already has ubuntu installed on it?
[02:28] <yourself3082> hi
[02:28] <bradley> hi
[02:28] <databuddy> jsestri2 yeah man
[02:28] <bradley> hi yourself
[02:28] <databuddy> itl overwrite the current one
[02:28] <databuddy> try doing a server install
[02:28] <stroyan> matthe1: Hmm, you have no swap configured.
[02:28] <NETWizz> I will be right back
[02:28] <bradley> what you all installing?
[02:28] <matthe1> ok
[02:28] <jsestri2> databuddy: how much will i lose? Like all files? Or just configurations?
[02:28] <matthe1> ..
[02:28] <NETWizz> you need to add a swap that is all
[02:28] <databuddy> obliterates /
[02:28] <NETWizz> and define it by uuid
[02:28] <bruenig> jsestri2, everything
[02:28] <alecw1> !thunderbird
[02:28] <matthe1> uuid..?
[02:29] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[02:29] <databuddy> bruenig not if /home is on diff partition
[02:29] <jsestri2> bruenig: son of a b
[02:29] <RoC_MasterMind> How can I see any restricted or multiverse packages on my system?
[02:29] <alecw1> Can someone help me install thunderbird?
[02:29] <jsestri2> databuddy: so i suppose i can try to put /home on a diff partition
[02:29] <UnknownUniverse> WHAT ARE THE KEYS FOR 3D CUBE EFFECT
[02:29] <databuddy> UnknownUniverse lose the caps.
[02:29] <nickrud> !beryl | UnknownUniverse
[02:29] <ubotu> UnknownUniverse: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:29] <databuddy> and try www.justgoogleit.com
[02:30] <travis1> unknown... i dont know what you mean by keys, you prolly want to enable desktop effects, if your card works right
[02:30] <NETWizz> back
[02:30] <matthe1> how can i add the swap?
[02:30] <NETWizz> I am going to find mine
[02:30] <UnknownUniverse> databuddy: and i dont want 9 000 000 search results
[02:30] <jamie> any tell me a application like sabayon. Trying to remove logout button. Does not seem to work.
[02:30] <RoC_MasterMind> databuddy, domain is expired and in redemption period.
[02:30] <NETWizz> Here is mine
[02:30] <NETWizz> # Entry for /dev/hda5 :
[02:30] <NETWizz> UUID=f525631f-6589-4dd7-a505-d8649014c639 none swap sw 0 0
[02:30] <travis1> oh ok... unknownuniverse, search google for beryl :P
[02:30] <NETWizz> How to find the UUID, I don't know
[02:30] <matthe1> hmm
[02:31] <matthe1> i think itshda4
[02:31] <jamie> Sorry anyone tell me a application like sabayon. Trying to remove logout button. Does not seem to work.
[02:31] <RoC_MasterMind> !uuid > NETWizz
[02:31] <joshritger> what is the best irc chat application, and is there anyway to automatically log in with my password?
[02:31] <matthe1> can i do /dev/had4?
[02:31] <matthe1> not uuid
[02:31] <matthe1> ?
[02:31] <bruenig> matthe1, yes
[02:31] <RoC_MasterMind> joshritger, the best IRC program in the whole world is....oh I'm sorry, for you or for me?
[02:31] <marek`> sudo fdisk -l
[02:31] <bradley> does anyone hear have aim id?
[02:31] <travis1> i use xchat for irc and you *can* save passwd, but its prolly plaintext, so not wise if you value your passwd
[02:31] <stroyan> matthe1, cat /proc/partitions to see what might have swap partitions.
[02:32] <MikeRotch> kopete has an option to do a command upon connect
[02:32] <matthe1> ok
[02:32] <joshritger> MasterMind: I am using gaim is there anything better
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> joshritger: Best is subjective, I like konversation and it does auto logon
[02:32] <bruenig> most of them do autologin
[02:32] <RoC_MasterMind> !irc joshritger
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irc joshritger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <travis1> joshritger: try xchat or xchat-gnome
[02:32] <RoC_MasterMind> !irc | joshritger
[02:32] <stroyan> matthe1, Use    sudo parted /dev/sda print    with different device names to see what partitions may already be formatted as swap.
[02:32] <bruenig> do not try xchat-gnome
[02:32] <travis1> sigh
[02:32] <bradley> why not try xchat-gnome?
[02:32] <travis1> always so negative bruenig
[02:32] <bruenig> xchat gnome will haunt you in your dreams
[02:32] <nickrud> xchat gnome is totally brain dead
[02:32] <MikeRotch> haha
[02:33] <travis1> gee im using xchat-gnome right now...
[02:33] <matthe1>  4      37.8GB  40.0GB  2188MB  primary  linux-swap
[02:33] <bradley> currently I am using gaim internet messenger
[02:33] <travis1> its ubuntu supported, unlike xchat
[02:33] <bruenig> its like retarded xchat, take xchat, strip everything useful out of it and you have xchat-gnome
[02:33] <bradley> we are in X-Chat
[02:33] <bruenig> !info xchat | travis1
[02:33] <ubotu> travis1: xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[02:33] <travis1> lol yes its retarded xchat, thats fair
[02:33] <databuddy> also kvirc is nice
[02:33] <travis1> its simplified, yes
[02:34] <bruenig> travis1, they are both in the repositories by the way
[02:34] <stroyan> matthe1:      sudo vol_id       with a partition device name will tell you its UUID
[02:34] <matthe1> sda4
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> joshritger: Agreed kvirc is worth a try
[02:34] <travis1> i know they're both in repositories
[02:34] <bruenig> travis1, so what did you mean when you said xchat-gnome was supported
[02:34] <NETWizz> I recomend doing it by UUID
[02:34] <travis1> but if you look under synaptics, they split up gnome and gnome-xchat
[02:34] <NETWizz> There is a damn good reason for it
[02:34] <lazellama> When I try apt-get install lincity-ng It won't install cause it says it can't get certain dependencies. Can anyone help me with this?
[02:34] <jugh3ad> is there some command that will tell my how fast my CPU is?
[02:34] <NETWizz> If you ever move your drive... your shit still works
[02:34] <NETWizz> if you did it by uuid
[02:34] <RoC_MasterMind> jugh3ad, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:35] <NETWizz> Anyway
[02:35] <MikeRotch> ok bruenig
[02:35] <NETWizz> to find your uuid
[02:35] <MikeRotch> it's done copying and i accidently cosed te window
[02:35] <NETWizz> look in /boot/grub/menu.list
[02:35] <matthe1> wont do it..
[02:35] <MikeRotch> but all the numbersmatched up
[02:35] <matthe1> :(
[02:35] <bruenig> jugh3ad, grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
[02:35] <jamie> any tell me a application like sabayon. Trying to remove logout button on gnome. Does not seem to work.
[02:35] <travis1> besides if he's using gaim for irc right now, xchat-gnome might be simpler to switch to...
[02:35] <matthe1> music@music-desktop:~$ sudo vol_id sda4
[02:35] <matthe1> sda4: error open volume
[02:35] <matthe1> \
[02:35] <NETWizz> I just cannot remmember how to find the UUID
[02:35] <bruenig> MikeRotch, ok well check that it looks good, and then restart
[02:35] <jugh3ad> thanks RoC_MasterMind , bruenig
[02:35] <MikeRotch> well i got his one thing called "disk" that has a red X above it
[02:36] <MikeRotch> and then i can't see anyhting i nit
[02:36] <stroyan> NETWizz: The   vol_id  command
[02:36] <MikeRotch> is that nomal for now/
[02:36] <bruenig> MikeRotch, do ls /media/hda1
[02:36] <bruenig> MikeRotch, does that look like your current /
[02:36] <systemd0wn> Question, With Beryl how do i keep applications on seperate workspaces?  IE: Gnome Window List applet (taskbar)
[02:36] <piedoggie> reviewed dv install. had all the right code but missing codecs.  installed them and dvd playback failed the same way.  plays fbi warning and then playback fails
[02:36] <MikeRotch> yea i guess
[02:36] <MikeRotch> haha
[02:36] <MikeRotch> all the folders have same names
[02:36] <MikeRotch> i think
[02:37] <travis1> later y'all
[02:37] <bruenig> MikeRotch, well go into /home/username or other places and do some spot checking to make sure it has everything, it should but just in case
[02:37] <bruenig> MikeRotch, /media/hda1/home/username I mean
[02:37] <stroyan> matthe1:   sudo vol_id  /dev/sda4
[02:38] <matthe1> ID_FS_USAGE=other
[02:38] <matthe1> ID_FS_TYPE=swap
[02:38] <matthe1> ID_FS_VERSION=2
[02:38] <matthe1> ID_FS_UUID=
[02:38] <MikeRotch> yea i got my stuff there
[02:38] <matthe1> no UUID ....
[02:38] <matthe1> wtf?
[02:38] <bruenig> MikeRotch, so reboot
[02:38] <MikeRotch> haha i am scared
[02:38] <MikeRotch> but ook
[02:38] <MikeRotch> :-)
[02:38] <bruenig> matthe1, blkid
[02:38] <matthe1> ?
[02:39] <stroyan> matthe1: mkswap /dev/sda4 should take care of that.  Be very careful which partition you point that at.
[02:39] <bruenig> matthe1, run that
[02:39] <MikeRotch> BRB!
[02:39] <matthe1> i know
[02:39] <matthe1> it formats
[02:39] <matthe1> :P
[02:39] <matthe1> i figured
[02:39] <RoC_MasterMind> !enter > matthe1
[02:40] <matthe1> no label, UUID=f84628ce-0270-4e64-9d92-9ae14797402
[02:40] <matthe1> soo
[02:40] <matthe1> thats its
[02:40] <matthe1> :P
[02:40] <jsestri2> is it ok to make /home a fat32 partition or does it need to be ext3?
[02:41] <matthe1> now so mount it
[02:41] <NETWizz> Oh, no crap
[02:41] <NETWizz> Just make a new swap partition
[02:41] <NETWizz> mkfs.swap
[02:41] <NETWizz> it will tell you the UUID
[02:41] <matthe1> can i havea exp of it for fstsb
[02:41] <jrib> jsestri2: ext3, since fat32 doesn't retain permission information
[02:41] <NETWizz> I think
[02:41] <bruenig> jsestri2, needs to be ext3 or some other filesystem that will handle permissions like ext2 reiser or whatever else
[02:41] <nickrud> Jestre, it cannot be fat32
[02:41] <piedoggie> any help with post faq dvd playback failure?
[02:41] <jsestri2> bruenig: ok, none of those are windows compat are they?
[02:42] <bruenig> jsestri2, not natively no, you can install ext3 driver from fs-driver.org
[02:42] <Pelo> !dvd | piedoggie
[02:42] <ubotu> piedoggie: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:42] <jsestri2> bruenig: ooo cool, i'll have to check that out
[02:42] <piedoggie> been there and it still does not work
[02:42] <Pelo> piedoggie,  the libdvdcss2 is the file to play encrypted dvds
[02:42] <NETWizz> Yes
[02:42] <NETWizz> That is the answer
[02:43] <NETWizz> mkswap /dev/correct device
[02:43] <NETWizz> Be very carful
[02:43] <NETWizz> It will re-make the filesystem
[02:43] <piedoggie> yea, I figured as much.  installed it and it still does not work
[02:43] <NETWizz> and tell you the UUID
[02:43] <NETWizz> Add that UUID to /etc/fstab
[02:43] <MikeRotch> bruenig i got an error, i couldn't see it all but i think /dev/hda1 is read only?
[02:43] <MikeRotch> it said type password for maintennce or control D to conitnue booting
[02:43] <MikeRotch> so i did control D
[02:43] <stroyan> matthe1:    UUID=f84628ce-0270-4e64-9d92-9ae14797402    none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:44] <bruenig> MikeRotch, it shouldn't be
[02:44] <MikeRotch> dude i dunno all i know is i got the error
[02:44] <bruenig> MikeRotch, it is being mounted as rw
[02:44] <piedoggie> ran the css3 script to install it too..
[02:44] <|joshritger|> Well KVirc seems to work ok
[02:44] <bruenig> MikeRotch, do grep hda1 /etc/fstab
[02:45] <enterneo> i hv a infrared Remote i got with my TV tuner card
[02:45] <enterneo> can i use the RC for other purposes
[02:45] <stroyan> Yikes!! two different discussions around /etc/fstab...   Hilarity ensues.
[02:45] <enterneo> like i wish to control VLC player from my RC
[02:46] <nickrud> I don't understand why uuid's are used for static stuff like swap and partitions; makes sense for dynamically mounted stuff...
[02:46] <Pelo> enterneo, try looking up your RC model in the forum
[02:46] <matthe1> arhhh
[02:46] <bruenig> enterneo, if vlc supported command line changes, you could perhaps hack something together to associate different remote buttons to those commands but I don't think it does that
[02:46] <NETWizz> did it work for you
[02:46] <matthe1> brb
[02:46] <NETWizz> mkswap /dev/proper device
[02:46] <matthe1> rebooting
[02:46] <NETWizz> don't reboot
[02:46] <NETWizz> mount -a instead
[02:46] <NETWizz> :-)
[02:47] <NETWizz> and perhaps swap on
[02:47] <matthe1> tryed
[02:47] <matthe1> wont:(
[02:47] <enterneo> wat abt any player apart from vlc
[02:47] <askand> Trying to run GTA2 with wine..get this.. "Could'nt find attract mode file data\attract\attr1.rep" why?
[02:47] <NETWizz> okay well give reboot a try
[02:47] <bruenig> same thing, if it supports command line changes, then you may be able to hack a script together to do it
[02:47] <bruenig> hope you can script well though
[02:47] <stroyan> NETWizz,   swapon -a   instead of    mount -a
[02:48] <jasin> How do I change the screen resolution? System, preferences, screen resolution does not have the native resolution for my monitor listed it only goes to 800 x 600.
[02:48] <NETWizz> swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/f525631f-6589-4dd7-a505-d8649014c639: Device or resource busy
[02:48] <matthe1> swapon: cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/e127004e-2a93-4475-9aeb-e65ea54743ed: No such file or directory
[02:48] <NETWizz> Well, mine is already on ;-)
[02:48] <piedoggie> dvd playback failure ends with a ifoRead_TITLE_VOBU_ADMAP vts1 failed
[02:48] <Pelo> jasin,  edit the xorg.conf file and add the extra resolutions you need,    sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:49] <NETWizz> matthe1, what is your swap partition?
[02:49] <matthe1> sda4
[02:49] <NETWizz> okay
[02:49] <NETWizz> try this
[02:49] <NETWizz> su
[02:49] <waltercool> when ubuntu is going to change to 2.6.20?
[02:49] <jasin> Pelo, I tried that, nothing changed. Maybe I edited the wrong line?
[02:49] <waltercool> 2.6.21
[02:49] <NETWizz> Then you do mkswap /dev/sd4
[02:49] <Pelo> jasin,  what video card ?
[02:49] <matthe1> su: Authentication failure
[02:49] <matthe1> Sorry.
[02:49] <NETWizz> sudo -i then
[02:49] <NETWizz> sudo -i then the password to get to #
[02:50] <jasin> pelo, its onboard, its a Geforce 6150LE.
[02:50] <matthe1> ok
[02:50] <NETWizz> Then mkswap /dev/sd4
[02:50] <jasin> pelo, it is listed in the conf, so it was detected when I installed ubuntu.
[02:50] <NETWizz> You had best be damn sure sd4 is swap before you dothat
[02:50] <matthe1> sda4
[02:50] <Pelo> jasin,  you have special ways of adding resoltuions for nvidia and ati cards,  try in this link
[02:50] <Pelo> !ati | jasin
[02:50] <awsoonn> hi
[02:50] <ubotu> jasin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:50] <NETWizz> Then get the uuid
[02:50] <Dj-avu> i have ubuntu 6.* how to restart my iptables?
[02:51] <awsoonn> I have ubuntu installed and left room to install windows for Photoshop
[02:51] <Pelo> jasin,  you might also look in the forum for help on this,  I'm not very familiar with those cards
[02:51] <awsoonn> How can I install windows and not destro grub?
[02:51] <awsoonn> destroy**
[02:51] <NETWizz> Then add your device UUID=f525631f-6589-4dd7-a505-d8649014c639 none swap sw 0 0
[02:51] <Veen> Anyone fluent with 64 bit ubuntu?
[02:51] <NETWizz> Obviously, substitutde your UUID for mine
[02:51] <joshritger_> can anyone help me with wifi and wpa
[02:51] <NETWizz> error put your in not mine
[02:51] <NETWizz> Save the /etc/fstab
[02:51] <Pelo> awsoonn,  you can'T you'll have to repair grub or reinstall ubuntu ,
[02:51] <Pelo> !grub | awsoonn
[02:51] <ubotu> awsoonn: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:51] <NETWizz> swapon -a
[02:51] <jasin> Pelo, are you saying I need a new driver? There is a Geforce driver installed already.
[02:51] <NETWizz> and your swap should fire up
[02:52] <stroyan> If   ll /dev/disk/by-uuid | grep sda4  remains empty,   matthe1 may need to reboot. That is strange.
[02:52] <NETWizz> free will give you a memory report
[02:52] <Veen> joshritger: i know a little
[02:52] <NETWizz> You should see Swap with Total, used, and free
[02:52] <matthe1> swapon: cannot find the device for /dev/disk/by-uuid/UUID=3d34db43-a6cb-4601-b9be-a4bbec429548
[02:52] <MikeRotch> bruenig
[02:52] <MikeRotch> sorery my internet died
[02:52] <matthe1> omg
[02:52] <nickrud> jasin, what resolutions does xrandr say you have?
[02:52] <MikeRotch> so i restarted to see eror again
[02:52] <NETWizz> UUID must be wrong then
[02:52] <Pelo> jasin,  you probably won't need a new driver,  search the card model in the forum for instructions on how to add resolutions
[02:52] <matthe1> nope
[02:52] <MikeRotch> tell em the command again pleae bruenig
[02:52] <joshritger_> Veen: I can see my network and I click on it to connect and it asks for my authentication it gives me three options for wep but no wpa
[02:52] <jasin> xrandr?
[02:53] <NETWizz> well then do it by device name
[02:53] <stroyan> cat /proc/swaps   will also report swap devices.
[02:53] <bruenig> MikeRotch, grep hda1 /etc/fstab
[02:53] <NETWizz> put in /dev/sda4 none swap sw 0 0
[02:53] <MikeRotch> the error was " /dev/hda2 mounted w/ write permissions, cannot check" then i pressed ctrl-d to get maintenance shell
[02:53] <NETWizz> into /etc/fstab
[02:53] <nickrud> jasin, it's a command line command, it lists the resolution X thinks your card can do
[02:53] <MikeRotch> but it seems i went to normal stuff cause Compiz still works fine
[02:53] <matthe1> UUID=94fd876b-337c-48c0-aed7-2cdb5ba7d41f none swap sw 0 0
[02:53] <matthe1> that ok?
[02:53] <jasin> nickrud, ok, let me try
[02:53] <NETWizz> should be
[02:54] <NETWizz> What was the output of mkswap?
[02:54] <NETWizz> What did it say to you?
[02:54] <MikeRotch> bruenig that commands gives me
[02:54] <MikeRotch> # /dev/hda1
[02:54] <MikeRotch> /dev/hda1 /     reiserfs    defaults             0       1
[02:54] <NETWizz> paste that here
[02:54] <bruenig> MikeRotch, looks good
[02:54] <Veen> joshritger_: ok it sounds like you may need to install a driver
[02:54] <Veen> joshritger_: do you know what wireless card chipset you have?
[02:54] <matthe1> Filename                                Type            Size    Used    Prio
[02:55] <matthe1> Filename                                Type            Size    Used    Priority
[02:55] <NETWizz> root@ubserver:~# free
[02:55] <NETWizz>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[02:55] <NETWizz> Mem:       1035660     854572     181088          0      25096     537616
[02:55] <NETWizz> -/+ buffers/cache:     291860     743800
[02:55] <NETWizz> Swap:            0          0          0
[02:55] <NETWizz> root@ubserver:~# swapon -a
[02:55] <jasin> xrandr, gives me *0    800 x 600    ( 271mm x 203mm )  *60   56, *0    800 x 600    ( 271mm x 203mm )  *60   56 ,  2    400 x 300    ( 271mm x 203mm )   60   56
[02:55] <NETWizz> root@ubserver:~# free
[02:55] <NETWizz>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[02:55] <NETWizz> Mem:       1035660     856120     179540          0      25124     537620
[02:55] <NETWizz> -/+ buffers/cache:     293376     742284
[02:55] <NETWizz> Swap:      3028212          0    3028212
[02:55] <NETWizz> That is what it should do
[02:55] <nickrud> jasin, hm.
[02:55] <dxdemetriou> I have many of this the most times apt-get make install: Unknown media type in type 'chemical/x-alchemy'
[02:56] <jasin> 800 x 600 is not the native resolution for my display.
[02:56] <MikeRotch> so bruenig i need to format now the /dev/hda2 ?
[02:56] <MikeRotch> what about the error i gave
[02:56] <MikeRotch> you knwo anything about that
[02:56] <NETWizz> The whole Idea of UUID is awsome
[02:56] <jasin> I believe it should be 1680 x 1050
[02:56] <joshritger_> Veen: I have tried the ndiswrapper with windows driver and it says that there is no device, I am using a linksys card with .... hold on while I look up the info
[02:56] <bruenig> MikeRotch, defaults mounts it as rw, there is no reason it should give some ro error
[02:56] <NETWizz> Basically if you take apart your computer and slap it together with the drives connected anyway you want, the system boots fine
[02:56] <MikeRotch> well it did man
[02:56] <MikeRotch> haha
[02:56] <MikeRotch> :-)
[02:56] <NETWizz> Grub finds the correct device
[02:57] <NETWizz> and boots he kernel
[02:57] <joshritger_> Veen: it is a linksys wmp54g v4.1 with rt61 chipset
[02:57] <bruenig> right well I am saying that it is hard to understand where the error is coming from as everything is setup right
[02:57] <NETWizz> and fstab moutns the proper device
[02:57] <matthe1> arrrggg
[02:57] <matthe1> my swap is dead?
[02:57] <MikeRotch> oh ok
[02:57] <MikeRotch> so maybe if i delete the /dev/hda2 it will not error?
[02:57] <NETWizz> Then add a stick of ram and call it a night :-)
[02:57] <Veen> joshritger_: ok, let me look around the forums a little, i am not familiar with it
[02:57] <joshritger_> ok
[02:58] <nickrud> jasin, which video driver are you using?
[02:58] <bruenig> MikeRotch, wait is the error on /dev/hda2?
[02:58] <matthe1> :(
[02:58] <stroyan> matthe1:  You can just use          sudo swapon /dev/sda4     to see if the swap can work at all.
[02:59] <MikeRotch> yea it says... "/dev/hda2 mounted w/ write permissions, cannot check"
[02:59] <NETWizz> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/66637
[02:59] <NETWizz> Read that
[02:59] <MikeRotch> bruenig ^^
[02:59] <NETWizz> it is a bug report
[02:59] <jhall_> how do i empty the trash?
[02:59] <bruenig> MikeRotch, oh ok well that is not serious at all, I thought you were saying /dev/hda1 had problems
[02:59] <matthe1> sudo swapon /dev/sda4
[02:59] <matthe1> yup
[02:59] <MikeRotch> well i didn't know the first time, so i rebooted to get error exactly
[02:59] <matthe1> works
[02:59] <matthe1> Swap:  2136636k total,        0k used,  2136636k free,   189472k cached
[02:59] <jasin> Not sure, driver "nv" is listed in xorg.conf for the video card. Identifier	"nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] "	Driver		"nv"
[02:59] <MikeRotch> plus my internet died
[03:00] <MikeRotch> and terminal the first time rebooting said ssomething about not having a child process
[03:00] <MikeRotch> then woudn't show my name
[03:00] <MikeRotch> hahaha
[03:00] <bruenig> MikeRotch, see if you can delete everything off of it, if it is read only then you aren't supposed to be able but we'll see
[03:00] <MikeRotch> i freaked
[03:00] <MikeRotch> ok with gparted right?
[03:00] <jasin> For the monitor, Identifier	"DELL E207WFP"
[03:00] <jasin> 	Option		"DPMS"
[03:00] <jhall_> where the heck is the trash? (feisty)
[03:00] <nickrud> jasin, ok. (use my name when you reply, it makes the line stand out in my irc client)
[03:00] <matthe1> should i make /dev/sda4 not UUID?
[03:00] <waltermas> hola
[03:00] <jasin> nickrud, ok, sorry.
[03:00] <stroyan> Typing that is going to get old after your fifth reboot .  ;-)
[03:00] <bruenig> MikeRotch, well if you want, it doesn't really matter
[03:01] <NETWizz> @Glad that worked
[03:01] <kev_b> can anyone tell me the best way to set up a network like this: router->ubuntu_box->windows_box where the ubuntu_box has 2 interfaces. I don't want to do ip masquerading per se, but rather to have the ubuntu_box behave like a switch, so that windows_box gets assigned an IP by the router and is visible to the rest of the network attached to the router
[03:01] <NETWizz> just add it to /etc/fstab
[03:01] <bruenig> MikeRotch, you can format it I guess
[03:01] <NETWizz> and check your hibernation
[03:01] <matthe1> !spanish | waltermas
[03:01] <ubotu> waltermas: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:01] <NETWizz> If your system will not hibernate, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/66637
[03:01] <wastr2> how do I hook java/flash up to my firefox?
[03:01] <bruenig> wastr2, are you on 32 bit?
[03:01] <wastr2> si
[03:01] <jhall_> HOW DO I EMPTY THE TRASH IN FESITY?
[03:01] <jhall_> FEISTY
[03:01] <bruenig> wastr2, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree sun-java6-plugin
[03:01] <askand> askand
[03:02] <wastr2> thnks bruenig
[03:02] <joshritger_> jhall_: right click trach icon and empty trash
[03:02] <matthe1> right click on icon right bottom corner
[03:02] <wastr2> quick turnaround
[03:02] <askand> Trying to run GTA2 with wine..get this.. "Could'nt find attract mode file data\attract\attr1.rep" why?
[03:02] <jhall_> joshritger_: where is the trash icon?
[03:02] <jasin> nickrud,  I don't think this is a driver issue to be honest, it's something with the way my video is configured.
[03:02] <Veen> joshritger_: ok in terminal run the command "iwlist scan"
[03:02] <nickrud> jasin, how about posting your xorg.conf. But, xrandr bypasses xorg.conf iirc
[03:03] <nickrud> jasin, xorg.conf on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> jhall_: If you have deleted things as root or sudo emptying the trash on the desktop will not remove that trash
[03:03] <joshritger_> Veen: ok did that
[03:03] <bobgill> how can I unrar and see the progress of the extraction ie., % completed, time remaining, etc ??
[03:03] <joshritger_> jhall_ it should be on one of your panels
[03:03] <jhall_> joshritger_: negative... where is the trash stored on the hdd?
[03:03] <jasin> nickrud,  hmm
[03:03] <jhall_> Jack_Sparrow: I can't find the trash folder anywhere
[03:03] <matthe1> ok
[03:03] <joshritger_> jhall_ it is in a hidden file called .Trash I believe
[03:04] <Veen> jhall_: it should be in the lower right hand corner if it isnt there right click the toolbar and add the trashcan component
[03:04] <matthe1> i cant use UUID
[03:04] <jhall_> joshritger_: ahh, ok i'll look
[03:04] <matthe1> but /dev/sda4 works
[03:04] <Veen> joshritger_: ok and you see your wifi i'm sure
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jhall_: One is under your user name the other is in root .. both are hidden
[03:04] <joshritger_> yes I do
[03:04] <jasin> nickrud,  ok, one sec
[03:04] <joshritger_> Veen: Yes I do
[03:04] <Veen> joshritger_: ok
[03:04] <matthe1> /dev/sda4 none swap sw 0 0 work for me
[03:04] <matthe1> that ok?
[03:05] <matthe1> its on now too
[03:05] <nickrud> jasin, post Xorg.0.log also
[03:05] <stroyan> matthe1:  Does vol_id /dev/sda4 report any UUID yet?
[03:05] <netyire> hey all. Do you have to reconfigure your firewall with every update of ip tables? Does firestarter reflect any corrupted configuration of iptables, does it reconfigure iptables everytime upon startup as a service?
[03:05] <matthe1> ID_FS_UUID=94fd876b-337c-48c0-aed7-2cdb5ba7d41f
[03:05] <bruenig> netyire, no, firestarter configures iptables, then iptables maintains that configuration
[03:05] <joshritger_> Veen: It just doesn't seem to want to authenticate, never gives me an option for WPA, and even without any security it wont connect
[03:05] <stroyan> matthe1:  Using /dev/sda4 will be fine as lone as you don't move disks around.
[03:06] <matthe1> i wont
[03:06] <Veen> joshritger_: ok try visiting this site: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21546&sid=c5e02ed97dde07681fb564639e9f50c5
[03:06] <jasin> nickrud,  i'm trying, it's telling me This field is required.
[03:06] <matthe1> i cant open case anywaysw
[03:06] <jhall_> joshritger_: thnx... that was it
[03:06] <matthe1> its lock:P
[03:06] <joshritger_> jhall_: no problem
[03:06] <joshritger_> Veen: I am there
[03:06] <stroyan> matthe1:  does    ll /dev/disk/by-uuid | grep sda4   still find nothing?
[03:06] <jasin> hmm
[03:06] <matthe1> stroyan: plus if i move it i can just change it :P
[03:07] <Veen> joshritger_: i had a similar program and i had to modify a configuration file, i cant remember what or how but i think this site is talking about it
[03:07] <matthe1> music@music-desktop:~$ sudo vol_id /dev/sda4
[03:07] <matthe1> ID_FS_USAGE=other
[03:07] <matthe1> ID_FS_TYPE=swap
[03:07] <matthe1> ID_FS_VERSION=2
[03:07] <matthe1> ID_FS_UUID=94fd876b-337c-48c0-aed7-2cdb5ba7d41f
[03:07] <nickrud> jasin, did you enter your name?
[03:07] <MikeRotch> bruenig my internet dies and one of my storage ntfs is not reading
[03:07] <joshritger_> Veen: ok, I will have a look see. If I need more help I will let you knwo
[03:07] <joshritger_> Veen: thanks
[03:07] <MikeRotch> my terminal soon says there is no child prrocess for it or some crap
[03:07] <MikeRotch> then i have to reboot
[03:07] <matthe1> should i try that?
[03:07] <jasin> nickrud,  yes, jasin.
[03:07] <Veen> joshritger_: yea, sorry i didnt really help
[03:07] <stroyan> matthe1:  It's time for me to run to dinner to.  Goodnight.
[03:08] <matthe1> should i try that
[03:08] <joshritger_> Veen: any links or tips always help
[03:08] <matthe1> ?
[03:08] <MikeRotch> wow ok
[03:08] <MikeRotch> that sucks
[03:08] <jasin> nickrud, ok, it got posted, Posted by Jasin on July 21st 03:08
[03:09] <Veen> joshritger_: from reading a few forum posts ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539 ) i think you need to focus on ndiswrapper or this method on the previous website i gave you
[03:09] <matthe1> ok
[03:09] <joshritger_> Veen: ok, the terminal ndiswrapper or the graphical method
[03:09] <snaef999> I have a question about configuring gnome panel button....is there a way to limit how big they get?  I put my app bar on the right side of the screen and when I make the bar wide enough the buttons get VERY big....can they be limited in size?
[03:10] <Veen> stick with the latest terminal method
[03:10] <Veen> joshritger_:  stick with the latest terminal method
[03:10] <joshritger_> Veen: ok, that is what I figured, the graphical stuff usually gives me problems I dont know why they even put it in if it doesn't work
[03:11] <nickrud> jasin, how about the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:11] <jasin> nickrud, I opened it, its empty.
[03:11] <jasin> nickrud, oh, hmm, let me try
[03:12] <nickrud> jasin, captial X ?:)
[03:12] <d4rkmonkey> !sata
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <d4rkmonkey> o_O
[03:12] <d4rkmonkey> nvm.
[03:12] <MikeRotch> is there a command to make a mountpoint NOT readonly
[03:12] <MikeRotch> or something
[03:12] <MikeRotch> the guy helping me left
[03:12] <jimmy_> Greetings all
[03:13] <NotTheAdmin> Hello i'm
[03:13] <jasin> nickrud, that is posted too, Posted by Jasin on July 21st 03:12
[03:13] <d4rkmonkey> hey does anyone know how to make pidgin play a sound when people message me? I need the proper command...
[03:13] <NotTheAdmin> Not The Admin
[03:13] <nickrud> snaef999, no, not really. vertical panels don't work well
[03:13] <alecwh> On my new Dell Latitude D630!! :D
[03:13] <alecwh> (with ubuntu)
[03:13] <Jordan_U_> MikeRotch, What are you trying to mount?
[03:13] <jimmy_> Wich version of Pidgin are you refering to?
[03:13] <alecwh> !lamp > alecwh
[03:13] <snaef999> grr...believe it or not its the biggest thing keeping me from using Ubuntu full time.   Is there any work being done on vertical panels?
[03:14] <d4rkmonkey> jimmy_, 2.02 I think
[03:15] <jayde_drag0n> hi i have 2 ubuntu computers.. and i'd like to share files between them... i attempted blindly on what i thought was it... but it didn't work.. din't mess up anything tho.... do i need to use samba or is that just for interoperability from unix to windows? or is that exactly what i'm looking fior?
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> snaef999: The icons adjust in size to the width of the panel...  Not sure if you can limit the size by modifying things in the gconf-editor
[03:15] <MikeRotch> i just did this command.... sudo dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hda1     to copy a ubuntu installation on a second partition of a disk to the first....
[03:15] <MikeRotch> jordan_u ^
[03:16] <Jordan_U_> jayde_drag0n, Right click the folder you want to share and choose share, use NFS for *NIX to *NIX
[03:16] <Veen> Is Adobe coming out with a 64 bit release of Flash?
[03:16] <jasin> nickrud,  lot of hsync out of ranges in that file.
[03:16] <jasin> hmm
[03:16] <MikeRotch> but also jordan_u_ i am getting an error now when i reboot
[03:16] <MikeRotch> that /dev/hda2 is mounted w/ write permissions
[03:16] <nickrud> ok, jasin looking at http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-5123 near the bottom, it gives the max horizontal sync as 83khz. on line 486 in your Xorg.log, it says it's maxing out at 37.9.
[03:17] <snaef999> ty, ill take a look
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Veen: dont hold your breath
[03:17] <MikeRotch> it shoudl be using /dev/hda1
[03:17] <jimmy_> D4 - Do that in Tools>Settings>Sounds
[03:17] <Veen> Jack_Sparrow: dang
[03:17] <nickrud> jasin, we're looking at the same cause :)
[03:17] <jayde_drag0n> Jordan_U: i went thru System>Administrative>shared folders and set it up using the ipaddresses of my internal network first... was that correct and now all i have to do is share some folders?
[03:17] <Jordan_U_> MikeRotch, Have you changed your fstab to match the change in / ?
[03:18] <Bassetts> is the Ubuntu Document Storage Facility working for anyone?
[03:18] <MikeRotch> oh yea let me show you that
[03:18] <Jordan_U_> jayde_drag0n, IIRC yes
[03:18] <jasin> nickrud,  yes :)
[03:18] <nickrud> !fixres | jasin use this to fix that:
[03:18] <ubotu> jasin use this to fix that:: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:18] <Jordan_U_> !nfs > jayde_drag0n
[03:18] <MikeRotch> jordan_u_
[03:19] <MikeRotch> # /dev/hda2
[03:19] <MikeRotch> /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 reiserfs defaults          0       1
[03:19] <MikeRotch> # /dev/hda1
[03:19] <MikeRotch> /dev/hda1 /     reiserfs    defaults             0       1
[03:19] <jayde_drag0n> Jordan_U: yeay!!! thanks so much i thought i did it wrong... do the systems need to be rebooted now.. or just share a folder and go (newbie.. i know rebooting is for windows.. btu what do i know?)
[03:19] <MikeRotch> does it matter the order they are in on that file???
[03:19] <jasin> nickrud,  okay thanks :)
[03:19] <jasin> nickrud,  be back if that dont work :p
[03:19] <nickrud> jasin, I'll be around for a couple hours, on and off if you need some more help :)
[03:21] <greatcaffeine> Has Nvidia released working Linux drivers for the 8800 cards yet?
[03:23] <rbs-tito> greatcaffeine: Yes they have. Latest release works fine
[03:24] <MikeRotch> jordan_u_ does it matter what order my partitions are listed in>?
[03:25] <Jordan_U> MikeRotch, I don't think so
[03:25] <Veen> Does anyone know how to install 32-bit firefox on a 64-bit machine?
[03:25] <joshritger_> Veen:I downloaded the driver and am following a wiki on how to install it. I get some errors but I was wondering what directory should the tarball be put in before I install it
[03:26] <MikeRotch> how can i tell if i am running my partition hda1 or hda2???
[03:26] <kazukisan-lap> nvm they work lol
[03:26] <Veen> joshritger_: i think your home directory is fine
[03:26] <joshritger_> Veen: ok
[03:26] <joshritger_> Veen: just double checking
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeRotch: My dummy way is to put a file on the desktop and see if it shows up in the desktop folder of the first or second partition
[03:27] <litlebuda> !nfs > Linuxuser
[03:27] <MikeRotch> but in my computer
[03:27] <MikeRotch> it only shows hda2
[03:28] <litlebuda> !nfs
[03:28] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:28] <nuked_omen> how can i deal with .daa files?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> MikeRotch, Did you set GRUB to boot from the second partition?
[03:28] <MikeRotch> well i want to boot from the first
[03:28] <MikeRotch> but how do i do that???
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeRotch: I feel for you as I have watched you spend alot of time on this.. I am leaving to go to dinner with the wife so I dont want to get you started on something then leave.. Good luck
[03:29] <Jordan_U> MikeRotch, Sorry, I meant the first
[03:29] <MikeRotch> i dunno
[03:29] <MikeRotch> i guess not
[03:29] <MikeRotch> i only copied it all from the second to the first
[03:29] <MikeRotch> ands then i get error on restart
[03:29] <Jordan_U> MikeRotch, Assuming you have only one hard drive change (hd0,01) to (hd0,0)
[03:29] <rkgl> hi I run ubuntu on a thinkpad and my machine hangs playing mp4, I have searched the forums but could not find any answers. Any pointers ?
[03:30] <bobgill> !torrent
[03:30] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[03:30] <unagi> does anyone happen to know what the name of the default network manager is on mandriva?
[03:30] <MikeRotch> how do i edit it
[03:30] <rockets> Deluge > all
[03:30] <MikeRotch> i mean i know the gedit command
[03:30] <Jordan_U> MikeRotch, First see if grub will detect it automatically with "sudo update-grub"
[03:31] <gamerfreak> I need a bit of help here
[03:31] <gamerfreak> I am trying to install synergy
[03:31] <MikeRotch> how do i know if it did
[03:31] <gamerfreak> well, run synergy
[03:31] <joshritger_> Veen: I am following a guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61?highlight=%28rt61%29 and I am getting errors
[03:31] <MikeRotch> i only got this
[03:31] <MikeRotch> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
[03:31] <MikeRotch> Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:31] <MikeRotch> Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
[03:31] <MikeRotch> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic
[03:31] <MikeRotch> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic
[03:31] <MikeRotch> Found kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[03:31] <MikeRotch> Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done
[03:31] <Jordan_U> !paste | MikeRotch
[03:31] <ubotu> MikeRotch: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:31] <MikeRotch> sorry
[03:31] <gamerfreak> okay so I have the executable in my /usr/bin dir
[03:31] <joshritger_> Veen: do you know what linux-headers I should install for fiesty?
[03:32] <gamerfreak> I run and It and I get "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++6cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[03:32] <Varsendaggr> Dependency problems suck!!!!!
[03:32] <Veen> joshritger_: the latest generic one
[03:32] <Jordan_U> MikeRotch, It looks like it didn't find it, in your menu.lst you should see an entry for Ubuntu saying "root (hd0,1)"
[03:33] <gamerfreak> so I try to install libstdc++6
[03:33] <gamerfreak> and I get
[03:33] <gamerfreak> "libstdc++6 is already the newest version"
[03:33] <joshritger_> ok
[03:33] <MikeRotch> how do i see that
[03:33] <MikeRotch> i dunno anythingman sorry
[03:33] <Veen> joshritger_: can you give me some errors you're getting?
[03:33] <Jordan_U> joshritger_, If you install linux-headers-generic it will always update the headers to match the kernel as it updates
[03:34] <rockets> it already updates the headers anyway as long as youre using update manager
[03:35] <joshritger_> Veen: did you look at that link?
[03:35] <Veen> josh the "iwlist scan" command gives you the info you need to put in that .dat file
[03:35] <unagi> anyone know the name of mandrivas default network manager or at least the name of a better network manager than the one ubuntu gives?
[03:35] <tdela> If i want to dual boot vista for the wife and ubuntu for me, Do i install windows first and use grub as the boot loader?
[03:35] <unagi> tdela i would do vista first then ubuntu
[03:35] <kitche> unagi: I believe mandriva just uses the window manager's one that they use
[03:36] <tdela> ack damn.
[03:36] <Veen> joshritger_: yea i am looking at it
[03:36] <tdela> unagi: thanks :)
[03:36] <unagi> mandrivas looks different than ubuntus and i like it....
[03:36] <unagi> the one in ubuntu is annoying because it doesnt refresh
[03:36] <Veen> joshritger_: the "iwlist scan" command gives you the info you need to put in that .dat file
[03:36] <joshritger_> Veen: I didn't make it that far, I can't get the module to compile correctly
[03:36] <Veen> joshritger_: oh ok
[03:36] <Jordan_U> MikeRotch, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:36] <unagi> if i wanted to install mandriva would the grub automatically update, retaining my vista and ubuntu in it?
[03:36] <MikeRotch> thx
[03:37] <Veen> joshritger_: what command do you get erros?
[03:37] <joshritger_> I installed gcc, build essentials, and the linux headers and I get errors when I input make all
[03:37] <Veen> joshritger_: that's spanish for errors :-)
[03:37] <Veen> joshritger_: or just a typo
[03:37] <joshritger_> Veen: typo
[03:38] <nickrud> unagi, mandrake should create it's own menu.lst, and maybe. It's not hard to add the stanzas if needed
[03:38] <nickrud> *mandriva
[03:38] <unagi> should i back up ubuntus menu.lst?
[03:38] <rampage> ok got a silly question that I cannot remember the answer to .
[03:38] <Jordan_U> unagi, Yes
[03:38] <Veen> joshritger_: so the make all command gives you errors? can i see what it says?
[03:38] <unagi> mandriva kinda scares me....no apt-get? sheesh
[03:39] <unagi> lol
[03:39] <tdela> Forgot to ask my other question... I have vista x64, I will be install ubuntu x86, will this cause issues dual-botting 64-bit OS and a 32-bit OS?
[03:39] <nickrud> wouldn't mandriva's be in it's own boot/grub?
[03:39] <Jordan_U> tdela, No
[03:39] <MikeRotch> jordan_u_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30644
[03:39] <Varsendaggr> so i tried to install some .debs with dpkg   and i had a bunch of dependency issues...   so it sais run apt-get -f install   i don't want to do that because it will wipe out most of my system....   how do i just tell apt-get to ignore those files that i tried to install with dpkg?
[03:39] <MikeRotch> that is my file
[03:39] <nickrud> there's always rpmfind.net :)
[03:39] <unagi> how do i tell my system which menu.lst to look at?
[03:39] <tdela> Jordan_U: thanks.
[03:40] <rampage> to run a program from terminal while running X it says cannot connect to X 0:0 , Ihave done this before so I know it can work  but do not remember how to fix it
[03:40] <joshritger_> Veen: did you get my pm with the info?
[03:40] <nickrud> by using grub-install from the os you want in control
[03:40] <Veen> Jordan_U: do you know how to install 32-bit firefox on 64-bit ubuntu so i can install 32-bit flash?
[03:40] <Veen> joshritger_: no i didn't
[03:40] <Veen> joshritger_: i am very new to irc
[03:41] <Jordan_U> !flash64 | Veen
[03:41] <ubotu> Veen: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[03:41] <joshritger_> Veen: so am I, maybe I sent it wrong
[03:41] <Veen> Jordan_U: thanks
[03:41] <thinlace> i have a question about video on feisty with my t60p
[03:41] <jeremysan> hi all.  can somebody help me troubleshoot why my desktop effects in ubuntu 7.04 might not work?  when i click to enable them my screen turns white; my computer doesn't like it very much.  after i wait the 40 seconds it does revert back.  let me point out that my hardware is modern and in good condition
[03:42] <thinlace> i was seeing a blue tint to everything, so i tried to install envy, which i guess went and fetched a different version of my FireGL driver
[03:42] <MikeRotch> jordan_u http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30644
[03:42] <thinlace> this fixed the video tint issue, but seemed to kill the actual 3d hardware support. the ogl screen saver is now running at less than a frame per second
[03:42] <gamerfreak> woot!
[03:42] <gamerfreak> synergy works
[03:42] <gamerfreak> so friggin awsome
[03:42] <nickrud> !effects | jeremysan
[03:42] <ubotu> jeremysan: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[03:43] <alecw1> Is it possible to have Emerald without Compiz fusion?
[03:43] <Jordan_U> MikeRotch, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30646/
[03:43] <thinlace> can anyone advise how to get my previous driver back the one that ships with feisty for ATI FireGL, and then get it to not look blue on video
[03:43] <rampage> how do i run x apps from gnome-terminal
[03:44] <joshritger_> Veen: can I send you a text file with the readout from terminal in it?
[03:44] <Jordan_U> thinlace, By video do you mean when playing videos?
[03:44] <kitche> rampage: input the commands
[03:44] <Veen> joshritger_: sure, how? email?
[03:44] <rampage> ?
[03:44] <MikeRotch> brb jordan_u thanks will restart and see
[03:44] <rampage> kitche, ?
[03:44] <MikeRotch> is there anything else jordan_u that you can think of
[03:45] <thinlace> yes, sorry, when i play avi files, everything has a blue tint, especially people.
[03:45] <MikeRotch> before i go
[03:45] <nickrud> rampage, DISPLAY=:0 gedit  for example
[03:45] <Shyam> hi..is there anywhere i can get mozilla plugin
[03:45] <kitche> rampage: you need to use the program's exe name
[03:45] <nickrud> Shyam, which one?
[03:45] <alecw1> How do you start emerald themes WITHOUT compiz fusion/
[03:45] <alecw1> ?*
[03:45] <Shyam> firefox
[03:45] <joshritger_> Veen: I just offered it to you through irc, I dont know if you can accept it or not
[03:46] <thinlace> but i was able to fix it by using the ATI drivers, instead of the open source ones (i think that's correct). but i somehow lost actual 3d support
[03:46] <rampage> when i try to run firefox or any x app from terminal it says it cannot connect to X
[03:46] <nickrud> Shyam, which plugin :)
[03:46] <Shyam> Mplayer
[03:46] <kitche> rampage: do you have X running?
[03:46] <rampage> yes
[03:46] <rampage> i am using gnome
[03:46] <MikeRotch> umm ok then BRB! thanks again
[03:46] <Nutubuntu> I remember being able to select which screensavers would come up in random order. How can I do that in Feisty?
[03:47] <Veen> joshritger_: try again
[03:47] <Jordan_U_> MikeRotch, You will probably need to re-install grub so that it points to the /boot/grub/menu.lst on the first partition though
[03:47] <kitche> rampage: then it shouldn't say unable to connect to X unless your trying to run them with sudo powers
[03:47] <nickrud> Shyam, install mozilla-mplayer ; you'll need to remove totem-mozilla
[03:47] <rampage> I do not remember having this problem in an earlier version of ubuntu
[03:47] <rampage> I do not think it matters at this point but let me check
[03:48] <joshritger_> Veen: ok i tried again
[03:48] <Shyam> nickrud, ok. but where can i get the plugin. I'm trying to watch tv b using streaming in Firefor
[03:48] <Shyam> Firefox
[03:48] <rampage> ok you are correct unfortuneatly I need to run this ap with sudo
[03:49] <nickrud> Shyam, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer  && sudo apt-get remove totem-mozilla
[03:49] <unagi> anyone know of a good network utility that sits in the tray?
[03:49] <rampage> can I fix it so i can run x app from root terminal?
[03:50] <Jordan_U_> rampage, gksudo ?
[03:50] <thinlace> i guess nobody has any ideas.. hmm. i guess i'll try the forum..
[03:50] <Shyam> nickrud, thanks alot i will do it now.
[03:50] <joshritger_> Veen: have any better ideas than pasting the whole thing in irc?
[03:51] <Jordan_U_> thinlace, I think I can help with the blue video question but you never answered weather that was a problem with playing videos or the video output from the card in general
[03:51] <Veen> joshritger_: i guess you could email it to me
[03:51] <NeoGeo64> how can i write trojans on linux for windows
[03:51] <rampage> yep that works but I am wanting to debug an app that is crashing on me usually i can run it from terminal and see the output and it gives me an idea where to start looking
[03:51] <waqar> hi, its been a month since i m using ubuntu, enjoying it alot except the trouble with firefox while playing youtube videos, it freezes, and i have to force quit it, any help? plz
[03:51] <thinlace> i answered but maybe you missed it, or maybe i wasn't clear.. the problem is when i play videos, AVI or MPEG files
[03:51] <Veen> NeoGeo64: haha, i dont know but good luck
[03:51] <NeoGeo64> lol\
[03:52] <Jordan_U_> NeoGeo64, Learn to program in any language, trogans are easy
[03:52] <joshritger_> Veen: there is supposed to be a web forum or something for ubuntu where you can paste stuff in and link to it so others can see it in irc, but I can't remember the website
[03:52] <nickrud> !paste | joshritger_
[03:52] <ubotu> joshritger_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:52] <flo> how can i create a animated .png ?
[03:52] <sebas_> flo: you can't
[03:52] <Veen> joshritger_: wow look at that
[03:52] <crdlb> flo, there's no such thing
[03:52] <joshritger_> Veen: that is what I was looking for
[03:52] <crdlb> there is mng though, but it's poorly supported
[03:52] <intelikey> can anyone point me in the right dirrection for sharing a mount on the intranet ?
[03:53] <Veen> nickrud: thanks
[03:53] <intelikey> would that be nfs mounts ?
[03:53] <nickrud> Veen, heh. sorry. I read so fast I didn't see it was meant for you
[03:53] <thinlace> jordan_u_, hopefully you saw my previous post, i'm patient, just wanna make sure you saw it
[03:53] <flo> can i use another format for animated stuff instead of .gif ? - which program ....
[03:54] <joshritger_> Veen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30649/
[03:54] <Jordan_U_> thinlace, run gstreamer-properties and in the video tab choose noxv as the output
[03:54] <wastr2> does ubuntu come with anything that can burn cds?
[03:54] <wastr2> or should I install gtoasters
[03:54] <crdlb> flo, the only format I know of other than gif is mng as I said, nothing supports it
[03:54] <thinlace> jordan_u_ - ok, but i have since changed the driver and the blue tint is gone but my 3d hardware is not seemingly driving 3d, it seems software..
[03:54] <intelikey> let me reword this.   for sharing with windows it's "samba" right ?         ok, what is the default linux to linux way to share ???
[03:55] <joshritger_> Veen: that is all of it, from step one
[03:55] <thinlace> how can i revert to the other driver and then solve the blue tint issue?
[03:55] <Pelo> wastr2,  it comes intalled with nautilus cd/dvd burner,  but you can easily install gnomebaker or k3b if you like them better, most do
[03:55] <Veen> joshritger_: ok
[03:55] <Jordan_U_> wastr2, It does, nautilus can burn files and iso's and they have some app for music CD's
[03:55] <thinlace> or should i now try to fix the 3d issue.. kinda confuesd, i guess there are two different ATI drivers, one is commercial and one is open source
[03:55] <NETWizz> back
[03:55] <Pelo> thinlace,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org I think
[03:55] <kitche> intelikey: either samba or nfs or just using scp if ssh-server is installed
[03:56] <Rondom> wastr2: fell free to try other programs, you can uninstall the ones you don't like, never used gtoasters. I use brasero from time to time
[03:56] <pete83> intelikey: there isn't really a default way... you could set up an apache server though
[03:56] <intelikey> kitche nfs you say ?     any good pointers on that ?
[03:56] <Shyam> has anyone ever use fedora before?
[03:56] <kitche> !nfs | intelikey
[03:56] <ubotu> intelikey: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:56] <intelikey> k looking
[03:56] <kitche> intelikey: I don't really like nfs myself
[03:56] <Jordan_U_> thinlace, If the open source driver gives you 3D acceleration it is more stable / supports beryl/compiz
[03:56] <Pelo> Shyam, this is the ubuntu channel , I'm sure there is a fedora channel somewhere
[03:57] <thinlace> is the open source one the one that comes with Envy?
[03:57] <thinlace> or is that the commercial one?
 ".mng" seems to be good - thx
[03:57] <Shyam> hahaha
[03:57] <intelikey> kitche hmmm well i have a cherokee server on one box already    would that be better  in your openion ?
[03:57] <pete83> intelikey: wouldn't putting your files in an apache served folder be the same as filesharing, but more powerful?
[03:57] <Shyam> i know this is ubuntu channel...that's y i'm asking if anyone used fedora before
[03:57] <Jordan_U_> intelikey, I am weird but I think that sshfs is easiest to set up securely
[03:57] <Pelo> thinlace,  yes I do beleive that the envy driver is the propriatary one
[03:57] <kitche> Jordan_U_: oh yeha forgot about sshfs :)
[03:57] <rockets> How can I rip a directory with a video_ts and audio_ts folder to a single movie file
[03:58] <thinlace> ok, so if i run that reconfigure command it will revert to the open source driver?
[03:58] <intelikey> !info sshfs
[03:58] <ubotu> sshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1 (feisty), package size 29 kB, installed size 116 kB
[03:58] <thebigham> how do i get a dock for ubuntu
[03:58] <goalie62> ya, Shyam. What's the question?
[03:58] <Pelo> rockets,  look up dvd2avi
[03:58] <intelikey> k i'll give it a go.  thanks.
[03:58] <kitche> Jordan_U_: but that's the same as scp so yeah :)
[03:58] <rockets> Pelo, k
[03:58] <Veen> joshritger_: um, i would try the cvs snapshot version, don't ask me how to do it, cause i don't know
[03:58] <Jordan_U_> thinlace, If the open source driver gives you 3D acceleration it is more stable / supports beryl/compiz
[03:58] <rockets> Pelo, not in the repositories
[03:58] <Jordan_U_> intelikey, I am weird but I think that sshfs is easiest to set up securely
[03:59] <Pelo> rockets,  or you can probably convert the video files with avidemux
[03:59] <joshritger_> Veen: what do u mean cvs, do u mean the driver?
[03:59] <thinlace> jordan_u_ i hear you but i'm just asking how to revert to it.. i'll try the command yo usuggested
[03:59] <Nutubuntu> how does the screensaver get configured in Feisty? (Other than turning it on at all, or selecting random?) Everything is a file, so I'm sure there's a configuration file somewhere ... what is it called?
[03:59] <Pelo> rockets,  you might have to get it trought google and compile it ,  dvd2avi I mean
[03:59] <Shyam> tks goalie62 :) is Fedora as good as Ubuntu.
[03:59] <nebuleon> anyone have a moment to lend me some guidence? :)
[03:59] <Veen> joshritger_: yea, http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=23879&sid=db7e81c26148149951139545d0f75bb1
[03:59] <rockets> Shyam, its a matter of opinion
[03:59] <Shyam> which one u like it most
[03:59] <rockets> !ask | nebuleon
[03:59] <ubotu> nebuleon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:59] <thinlace> jordan_u_ i got a message back saying that xserver-org is not installed
[04:00] <nebuleon> lmao, thats handy
[04:00] <Pelo> Nutubuntu,  you can try looking in gconf-editor
[04:00] <Shyam> the basic are all the same right, Linux.
[04:00] <nebuleon> ubuntu 7.04 server - wont detect my NIC on installation
[04:00] <Nutubuntu> t/y Pelo
[04:00] <Jordan_U_> thinlace, Are you running X right now?
[04:00] <nebuleon> any ideas? i've searched around without much success
[04:00] <goalie62> Shyam, I don't have a preference. I have both running on different machines
[04:00] <thinlace> i'm pretty new jordan_u_, i'm running Gnome on Feisty, i presume that uses X?
[04:00] <unagi> whats a good network monitor that you can refresh wireless networks in range?
[04:00] <Pelo> Shyam,  it's basicaly a question of ease of installation and software available for easy install
[04:00] <intelikey> does sshfs require root perms ?
[04:00] <joshritger_> Veen: ok i take it it is just a different driver, same install
[04:01] <Jordan_U_> thinlace, The instructions I gave will just disable hardware acceleration of video playback since it is broken with ATI's driver
 what do you mean with "nothing supports it" - i can save it in gimp for first ...
[04:01] <kitche> intelikey: just requires a username on both systems :)
[04:01] <Shyam> tks guys...i've been using Ubuntu for sometimes..thought of changing flavour.
[04:01] <goalie62> Shyam, Ubuntu seems easier to install and manage software.
[04:01] <Jordan_U_> intelikey, No, it uses FUSE and ssh
[04:01] <Shyam> but not Windows
[04:01] <intelikey> dpkg: error processing fuse-utils (--configure):
[04:01] <intelikey>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:01] <thinlace> ok i'm confused. let's try this. how do i go back to the driver that feisty ships with? ie. not the one envy installed
[04:01] <intelikey> i'll have to see if i can sort that.
[04:02] <Jordan_U_> thinlace, Yes
[04:02] <kyled185> hey everybody. I'm trying to follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314&highlight=affinity+doesn%27t+compile to get compiz-fusion working, I can't seem to "apt-get update" on the repos supplied on that website does anyone know if it's an issue with their server?
[04:02] <MajorPayne> Is there anyway I can add execute permissions only to directorys with chmod and the -R option?
[04:02] <Shyam> guys tks a lot..this is good channel
[04:02] <thinlace> that was a question, how do i get rid of the envy driver?
[04:02] <Jordan_U_> thinlace, It is strange that it is giving that error though
[04:02] <thinlace> oh
[04:02] <CzarAlex> Could someone assist me in writing a bash script that`ll backup a file and keep the last 4 backups of it? When its time for the next backup, remove the oldest one and add the newest one?
[04:02] <thinlace> hmm
[04:02] <kitche> thinlace: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf edit the part that says fglrx to ati and restart X
[04:02] <crdlb> flo, it would be useless on the web for example
[04:03] <Bleed> Does anyone know how to ACTUALLY change an applications icon?
[04:03] <Bleed> When it's running and such?
[04:04] <intelikey> MajorPayne yes.    find /starting/dir/ -type d -exec chmod +x '{}' \;
[04:04] <intelikey> or 755
[04:05] <MajorPayne> intelikey: Ahh.  Ok.  I would have never figured that one out on my own.
[04:05] <thinlace> kitche, ok i'll try that
[04:06] <intelikey> MajorPayne find is the 'cats' meyawoh
[04:06] <flo> crdlb: hm ... that means i only an use .gif for animated webgraphics ?
[04:06] <crdlb> flo, yeah not even firefox supports mng (last time I checked)
[04:06] <goalie62> I have 4 disk put together as a single LVM. they are mostly older disk. System monitor says I have 799.5 GB Total, 53.9 GB Free, 12.6 GB Available, and 745.6 GB Used. If you do the math, I have something like 40+ GB unaccounted for. Any ideas? Is it just LVM overhead??
[04:06] <flo> crdlb: yes
[04:07] <nebuleon> Can anyone help me out with getting 7.04 server to recognize my NIC at installation?
[04:07] <intelikey> ok i've got dpkg borked on two boxen already   i think i better take a break and fixes that.
[04:07] <Jordan_U_> nebuleon, Can you see it in ifconfig?
[04:07] <nebuleon> not sure Jordan_U_ - i'm just at that stage in the installation
[04:08] <Nutubuntu> goalie62,  ext3?
[04:08] <nebuleon> and it's saying that it can't find a NIC
[04:08] <Bleed> Does anyone know how to ACTUALLY change an applications icon?
[04:08] <goalie62> yes, Nutubuntu
[04:08] <sebas_> good night
[04:08] <bruenig> Bleed, I know how to change the menu icon
[04:08] <Bleed> I do as well
[04:08] <Bleed> I mean when the program is actually running
[04:08] <Bleed> Like Firefox
[04:09] <Bleed> How can I change the icon that sits in the window list
[04:09] <bruenig> Bleed, you can't change it when it is running, the icon is already loaded into ram
[04:09] <Bleed> I know
[04:09] <Bleed> I mean
[04:09] <Bleed> blah
[04:09] <Bleed> lol
[04:09] <Nutubuntu> goalie62,  ext3 reserves 5% of disk space (IDK if that is rough or exact) for journaling. Of your 800GB that would come to some 40GB
[04:09] <Bleed> I want to change the icon
[04:09] <Bleed> So when I run it
[04:09] <Bleed> It's not the stock icon
[04:09] <Nutubuntu> !return
[04:09] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:09] <Bleed> Sitting in my windows list
[04:09] <Veen> joshritger_: cvs snapshot are just the very latest version of the driver
[04:09] <bruenig> Bleed, you can find where that icon is and replace it
[04:09] <joshritger_> Veen: ok
[04:09] <bruenig> Bleed, usually in /usr/share/pixmaps
[04:09] <Bleed> For all applications?
[04:10] <Bleed> I don't know where to look for all applications icons
[04:10] <goalie62> Nutubuntu, shouldn't the overhead be taken into account, in the reporting?
[04:10] <bruenig> Bleed, not all, but quite a few, you can also do dpkg -L packagename to see what all files come with it, hunt down the pngs and play around
[04:10] <ebjcoat> anyonw know an easy way to convert video to wmv format (specifically xvid/avi)
[04:10] <Bleed> Gotcha, thanks bruenig, I'll have a looksie
[04:11] <kyled185> can someone go to this link and tell me if it loads? http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/feisty/eyecandy/index.html
[04:11] <nebuleon> doesnt load here kyled185
[04:11] <ebjcoat> does not load for me
[04:11] <Nutubuntu> goalie62,  I am not sure of this - being a n00b - but I think it is reflected in the difference between "free" and "available"
[04:11] <kyled185> alright, well that's comforting...it's not my problem then
[04:12] <Gambrinus_> ebjcoat: you could use ffmpeg
[04:12] <nebuleon> so nobody has any thoughts on my NIC troubles? :(
 .png should really have this animated thing ...
[04:12] <Jordan_U_> nebuleon, Is your chipset known to work with Linux?
[04:13] <nebuleon> not sure, how can I find that out?
[04:13] <nebuleon> it's an IBM desktop, if that helps
[04:13] <nebuleon> maybe about 2-3 years old
[04:13] <Jordan_U_> !hardware | nebuleon
[04:13] <ubotu> nebuleon: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:13] <echosystm> guys
[04:13] <crdlb> flo, that's what mng was supposed to be for
[04:13] <Borat> nebuleon, is this a server?
[04:13] <goalie62> Nutubuntu, Thanks, I guess it's just overhead.
[04:13] <echosystm> libsdl_ttf2.0.so.0
[04:13] <nebuleon> ya'll got everything in that bot
[04:13] <crdlb> but it never took off
[04:13] <nebuleon> yes Borat
[04:13] <echosystm> where do i get that?
[04:13] <Jordan_U_> nebuleon, That is not a definitive list though, it may work even if not listed there
[04:13] <echosystm> i already installed libsdl-dev
[04:14] <nebuleon> oh... Borat, my mistake
[04:14] <nebuleon> it's an IBM desktop, i'm installing ubuntu server
[04:14] <nebuleon> it's not an actual IBM server though
[04:14] <nebuleon> and IBM isnt covered on that page :(
[04:15] <Jordan_U_> nebuleon, Does the Desktop CD work on it?
[04:15] <nebuleon> not sure, haven't tried
[04:15] <xen_caapn> hey, anyone in here
[04:15] <xen_caapn> ?
[04:15] <jerbear> anyone know of a way to get the monitor configuration on the command line? like number of monitors and their resolution?
[04:15] <Jordan_U_> xen_caapn, Only 1011 people
[04:15] <Jordan_U_> ;)
[04:15] <goalie62> :)
[04:15] <xen_caapn> well, any present people rather
[04:16] <Jordan_U_> xen_caapn, Then no
[04:16] <Niriven> !ationeliner
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ationeliner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <Nutubuntu> y/w goalie62 ... maybe can find out exactly; I'll sniff around on Google
[04:16] <Jordan_U_> xen_caapn, What is your question?
[04:16] <flo> do anyone know a firefox-plugin for reading .mng-files ?!
[04:16] <xen_caapn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=498542
[04:16] <xen_caapn> i can't get my cd burner to work
[04:16] <xen_caapn> cd/dvd
[04:16] <Borat> nebuleon, the server version is just a more stable version of the regular ubuntu if im not mistaken, are you installing feisty?
[04:16] <nebuleon> yes Borat
[04:17] <Sevk> how to view the cpu voltage
[04:17] <puppy-user-06som> i'm trying to burn the xubuntu iso onto a cdr, but the burner program doesn't see the black cdr (although ubuntu shows it on the desktop)
[04:17] <nebuleon> I don't want Desktop on there, since it's going to act as a server for me..
[04:17] <nebuleon> just need SSH and a shell :)
[04:17] <xen_caapn> Jordan_U: do you know how i should troubleshoot this?
[04:17] <allbert> Linux linuxgeeks.us 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:17] <Jordan_U_> puppy-user-06som, What if you drag the iso to the blank CD and burn ( if it is the only file there it will ask if you want to burn from the image
[04:18] <Borat> nebuleon, unfortunatley servers are not my specialty, if you can try searching the ubuntuforums.org, that should lead you somewhere, if not try google.
[04:18] <Sevk> how to view the cpu voltage
[04:18] <nebuleon> I've tried Google without much luck :(
[04:18] <nebuleon> and hit a few threads on the forums, not much there however
[04:19] <goalie62> I have server fiesty installed serving NFS and Samba. When I mount an NFS share, it takes almost 25 secs for the mount to complete. But if I do a smbmount for a samba share. it is almost instant. IS the NFS behaviour expected?
[04:19] <Sevk> how to view the cpu voltage?
[04:19] <rodserling> hello
[04:20] <beamer> need help installing ubuntu in virtual pc
[04:20] <beamer> can someone help me?
[04:20] <rodserling> view the cpu voltage in your bios?
[04:21] <beamer> everytime i install the graphics are just jacked up
[04:21] <xen_caapn> what's your video card?
[04:21] <beamer> its an ATI
[04:21] <beamer> the initial screen comes up good
[04:21] <beamer> when I get to choose from the menu choices
[04:21] <xen_caapn> i don't know how experienced you are with linux, but ATI drivers are notoriously bad
[04:21] <beamer> i even chose safe mode
[04:21] <nebuleon> that happened to me too back around Ubuntu 5
[04:21] <xen_caapn> or non-existant
[04:22] <beamer> i'm a newbie with linux
[04:22] <xen_caapn> what do you mean jacked up?
[04:22] <puppy-user-06som> Jordan_U_: same thing
[04:22] <nebuleon> might want to give VMware a try beamer
[04:22] <Sevk> how to view the cpu voltage? like cpu-z for win
[04:22] <beamer> it goes through the installation, then the graphics come up more like a 16 color
[04:22] <beamer> can't even read anything
[04:22] <lufis> What's the best image scanner?
[04:23] <beamer> are there any free versions of vmware
[04:23] <Sevk> any software like cpu-z for win?
[04:23] <xen_caapn> why not just run off the live cd beamer?
[04:23] <rodserling> hmm?
[04:23] <Jordan_U_> xen_caapn, Does "cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 /path/to/iso" work?
[04:23] <Gambrinus_> beamer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[04:24] <beamer> gambrinus let me go to that site
[04:24] <MikeRotch> hey bruenig
[04:24] <bruenig> MikeRotch, .
[04:24] <MikeRotch> i am still trying to fix this thing, but now when i go to gparted it kicks me offline n stuff
[04:24] <MikeRotch> and i sitll get the error when i rstart
[04:25] <MikeRotch> it's nuts
[04:25] <bruenig> MikeRotch, try delete the entire line that deals with /dev/hda2
[04:25] <dissection> If I install a windows software using Wine, can I have do something to bring its shortcut (or symlink?) to my Linux Desktop which upon clicking will automatically run under wine?
[04:25] <dissection> -have
[04:25] <beamer> virtualbox does not exist
[04:25] <MilitantPotato> crdlb: is this correct? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30651/
[04:26] <beamer> case sensitive
[04:26] <sparr> dissection: ask in #winehq, i believe theres a way to do that
[04:26] <MilitantPotato> oops wrong channel
[04:26] <beamer> does virtual box only run off linux?
[04:26] <bruenig> beamer, true
[04:27] <puppy-user-06som> dissection: i think there is a link in the applications  folder
[04:27] <xen_caapn> Jordan_U: no,  it doesn't
[04:27] <MikeRotch> bruenig you mean del that in my fstab?
[04:27] <dissection> Okay.
[04:28] <Jordan_U_> xen_caapn, Can you pastebin the output?
[04:28] <bruenig> MikeRotch, yes
[04:28] <puppy-user-06som> /usr/share/applications
[04:28] <dissection> What directory do I need to put the windows fonts into?
[04:28] <rkgl> my system hangs playing mp4... I have looked about in the forums but could not find any solutions. How can I solve this ?
[04:28] <xen_caapn> wodim: No write mode specified.
[04:28] <xen_caapn> wodim: Asuming -tao mode.
[04:28] <xen_caapn> wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent defaults.
[04:28] <xen_caapn> Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
[04:28] <xen_caapn> Version        : 5
[04:28] <xen_caapn> Response Format: 2
[04:28] <xen_caapn> Capabilities   :
[04:28] <xen_caapn> Vendor_info    : 'HL-DT-ST'
[04:28] <bruenig> oh gees
[04:28] <xen_caapn> Identification : 'DVD-ROM GDR8087N'
[04:28] <xen_caapn> Revision       : '1.01'
[04:28] <bruenig> cdrecord output is long
[04:28] <xen_caapn> Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM.
[04:28] <xen_caapn> wodim: Sorry, no CD/DVD-Recorder or unsupported CD/DVD-Recorder found on this target.
[04:28] <bruenig> !ops
[04:28] <Jordan_U_> !paste | xen_caapn
[04:28] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[04:28] <xen_caapn> Jordan_U: posted
[04:28] <ubotu> xen_caapn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:28] <nat1192> rkgl what program u using
[04:28] <xen_caapn> haha, alright
[04:28] <nalioth> !paste | xen_caapn
[04:28] <MikeRotch> bruenig and this is how my boot/grub/menu.ldt file looks
[04:28] <MikeRotch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30654/
[04:28] <cemckay> Hello. I am trying to use the fish protocol in a KDE application, but it tells me that there is no such protocol. My guess is that it isn't installed. How do I get fish:// to work? Which package, etc. Can anyone help? Thanks
[04:29] <bruenig> MikeRotch, it has nothing to do with menu.lst
[04:29] <Jordan_U_> bruenig, I like that ubotu prioritizes !ops
[04:29] <bruenig> ops came first here
[04:29] <nat1192> cemckay try #kubuntu
[04:29] <nalioth> xen_caapn: please use a pastebin in the future.  pasting in channels is rude and useless
[04:29] <MikeRotch> ok well when you lkeft this guy had me change it all to hda 0,0
[04:29] <MikeRotch> or whatever
[04:29] <Jordan_U_> bruenig, Ahh, must be lag then
[04:29] <MikeRotch> shoudl i change that back in the menu.lst
[04:29] <cemckay> nat1192, Not on kubuntu, just regular feisty
[04:29] <bruenig> MikeRotch, i told you to change it to 0,0
[04:29] <MikeRotch> i thought i did///
[04:29] <xen_caapn> nailoth: it isn't clear i didn't know it existed...?
[04:29] <nat1192> but its a kde appliacation no?
[04:29] <MikeRotch> ok
[04:29] <Jordan_U_> bruenig, I did also :)
[04:29] <nox-Hand> Does anyone else feel Firefox crashes more after latest upgrade?
[04:30] <bruenig> MikeRotch, delete that title and root at the bottom
[04:30] <joshritger> can someone tell me why lxdoom comes up in a transparent window?
[04:30] <rkgl> I am using movie player
[04:30] <bruenig> MikeRotch, but the error you are getting is not a grub error, it is a mount error, so it has to do with fstab
[04:30] <jeremysan> hi all.  i am using skype to talk with my friends but they tell me that i am very quiet on my microphone.  this same microphone works very well on windows but not on ubuntu.  i double clicked on the sound icon and turned the "Microphone" all the way up but still very quiet.  any suggestions?
[04:30] <Catoptromancy_> joshritger, you probably need a doom iwad
[04:30] <xen_caapn> Jordan_U: now how do i post this...?
[04:30] <bruenig> jerbear, yell?
[04:30] <MikeRotch> del title and root for Other Operating Systems??
[04:30] <nat1192> does it play them at all or nothing and it just crashes?
[04:31] <joshritger> Catoptromancy: I believe I have that
[04:31] <bruenig> MikeRotch, yes
[04:31] <Catoptromancy_> joshritger,  try "sudo aptitude install prboom"  its a better doom port
[04:31] <Catoptromancy_> works nice
[04:31] <bruenig> MikeRotch, it won't affect this error but it is pointless to leave that stuff
[04:31] <rkgl> The system hangs and I have to reboot the system...
[04:31] <MikeRotch> ok and also the entire two likes for /dev/hda2 in the fstab i deleted
[04:31] <MikeRotch> lines*
[04:31] <Jordan_U_> jeremysan, To be thorough try alsamixer and see if there is anything else that you can turn up that might affect the mic level
[04:31] <bruenig> MikeRotch, ok so reboot, you shouldn't get the error, we can work on trying to get the thing to mount after you reboot
[04:31] <MikeRotch> k brb :-)
[04:32] <xen_caapn> !paste | xen_caapn
[04:32] <nat1192> rkgl try this (url)http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[04:32] <xen_caapn> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30655/
[04:33] <joshritger> Captoptromancy: I tried that and the same thing happens
[04:33] <rkgl> I have installed the multimedia codecs...
[04:33] <rkgl> Are there any other good places to look for ?
[04:33] <Catoptromancy_> joshritger, make a shell, I always use a shell
[04:33] <Jordan_U_> bruenig, I assume that he also wants grub to load his /boot/grub/menu.lst and kernel from his first partition also but I am not sure the background of why he is doing this
[04:33] <Catoptromancy_> should work fine
[04:33] <nat1192> try installing mplayer and smplayer
[04:33] <bruenig> Jordan_U_, he moved everything from hda2 to hda1
[04:34] <xen_caapn> Jordan_U_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30655/
[04:34] <joshritger> catoptromancy: what do u mean make a shell?
[04:34] <jerbear> bruenig: huh?
[04:34] <jeremysan> jordan_u_ :  how do i use alsamixer?  do i have to install it?
[04:34] <Jordan_U_> bruenig, I know, I just don't know why
[04:34] <Jordan_U_> jeremysan, Just run it in a terminal
[04:34] <Veen> joshritger: he might mean a script
[04:34] <bruenig> Jordan_U_, I don't know, I guided him through it, at least the only error is with hda2 having mounting problems and nothing else
[04:34] <bruenig> that error is very minor
[04:34] <joshritger> Veen: I am too new to know how to do that
[04:35] <rkgl> I have tried mplayer and xine as well but with the same result...
[04:35] <Veen> joshritger: yea, i have barely heard of it
[04:35] <Jordan_U_> bruenig, If he ever plans on removing his second partition the way it is now it will break
[04:35] <joshritger> Veen: I never figured out my wifi thing, I got the new driver to compile, I just didn't know where to go from there and I lost ambition for tonight
[04:35] <bruenig> Jordan_U_, not it won't
[04:35] <bruenig> no*
[04:36] <drocko> hello
[04:36] <Jordan_U> bruenig, It is loading the menu.list and kernel from the second partition isn't it?
[04:36] <MikeRotch> cool bruenig no error
[04:36] <MikeRotch> woooo
[04:36] <bruenig> Jordan_U, well if it was, he wouldn't be in here, that didn't even cross my mind actually
[04:36] <Jordan_U> bruenig, I may not understand what he has done so far
[04:36] <BobbyC> BobbyC
[04:37] <bruenig> Jordan_U, he copied using dd everything from /dev/hda2 to /dev/hda1 and changed fstab and menu.lst to reflect that
[04:37] <nat1192> sry man try the forums
[04:37] <bruenig> MikeRotch, there is nothing in /media/hda2 is there?
[04:37] <alecw1> Is there a way to switch my "workspace" by touching the edge of teh screen with my mouse?
[04:37] <rkgl> sure thanks
[04:37] <MikeRotch> no
[04:37] <MikeRotch> there is not
[04:37] <drocko> I'm trying to get the tablet portion of my x61 tablet working in ubuntu, but I'm having a number of problems. it is not showing up in /dev but udev can see it. I need help making udev rules. can someone help me?
[04:37] <Jordan_U> bruenig, Then he has two /boot/menu.lst's which one is GRUB using?
[04:38] <Catoptromancy_> joshritger, http://odamex.net/pastebin/?page=view&id=1184985468
[04:38] <Veen> joshritger: yea, i remember really struggling with it too, but it looks like you have the right method, its just that you are geting the compiling error, i tried searching it on google and found a few things, but no real solutions
[04:38] <Jordan_U> bruenig, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:38] <Sevk_> utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors ?
[04:38] <puppy-user-06som> thats interesting, I attached an external usb cdrecorder and now it burns fine
[04:38] <bruenig> Jordan_U, should he updated grub to change the root or whatever it is called with the grub prompt? I don't know, the second hard drive didn't mount this time, but does it need to mount to be used, I guess not
[04:38] <joshritger> Veen: i figured out my problem with doom, i had beryl on and it was causing the window to go transparent
[04:38] <joshritger> LOL
[04:38] <Veen> joshritger:  haha
[04:38] <Veen> josh that's awesome
[04:39] <MikeRotch> if i open gparted
[04:39] <Jordan_U> bruenig, That is what I was going to guide him through doing
[04:39] <MikeRotch> wqell before when i had the error and i opened it would shut off internet
[04:39] <MikeRotch> and make terminal non functioning
[04:39] <MikeRotch> i can try to open now though
[04:39] <Catoptromancy_> joshritger, still shells are invaluable with launching doom wads.
[04:39] <MikeRotch> maybe
[04:40] <bruenig> hmmm
[04:40] <Jordan_U> bruenig, I am not even sure what update-grub will do as is
[04:40] <MikeRotch> shoudl i try to open it
[04:40] <MikeRotch> haha
[04:40] <bruenig> this is an interesting situation
[04:40] <bruenig> !grub
[04:40] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:41] <bruenig> he can just reinstall grub right
[04:41] <bruenig> grub-install hda
[04:41] <MikeRotch> well i got no error this time
[04:41] <Jordan_U> bruenig, Yes, I think that will do it
[04:42] <bruenig> MikeRotch, ok just for safety sake do this: sudo grub-install hda
[04:42] <MilitantPotato> rejden: are you the guy that was having CD eject issues?
[04:42] <Jordan_U> bruenig, I think you have to have the /dev/ there too, though I normally re-install from the grub prompt
[04:42] <bruenig> MikeRotch, then do sudo grub, when you get the grub prompt do: root (hd0,0), and then do: setup (hd0): and then do: quit
[04:42] <MikeRotch> Format of install_device not recognized.
[04:42] <MikeRotch> Usage: grub-install [OPTION]  install_device
[04:42] <MikeRotch> Install GRUB on your drive.
[04:42] <xen_caapn> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30655/
[04:43] <Jordan_U> xen_caapn, I have seen it
[04:43] <bruenig> MikeRotch, yeah my fault the first one should say grub-install /dev/hda
[04:43] <k3Nt> hi folks -- just installed kubuntu -- the screeen res is really low --- cant find the app to adjust it -- xorg.conf looks ok
[04:43] <nat1192> go to #kubuntu
[04:43] <MikeRotch> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[04:44] <bruenig> MikeRotch, that came after which command?
[04:44] <Gun_Smoke> Opinions on the ATI Radeon FireGL V5250 card?
[04:44] <MikeRotch> i did    sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[04:44] <MikeRotch> yea
[04:44] <MikeRotch> after that
[04:44] <Jordan_U> xen_caapn, You might try --force though I am not sure what that will do and might give you a coaster
[04:44] <bruenig> MikeRotch, do sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub
[04:44] <zeldafan500> music sounds better if oyu put the bass all the way up :3
[04:45] <needinfo> Help! Can't get a terminal window in Fiesty after upgrading. Asks Username and Password then takes me back to desktop.
[04:45] <xen_caapn> Jordan_U, where do i put that command
[04:45] <Jordan_U> xen_caapn, "cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 /path/to/iso --force"
[04:45] <spy80us> any1 know how to get the zen vision m recognized on feisty
[04:46] <nickrud> Gun_Smoke, if you haven't got it yet, go nvidia
[04:46] <ubuntu> hi
[04:46] <braddcadd> hi
[04:46] <Gun_Smoke> nickrud: Drivers?
[04:46] <nickrud> Gun_Smoke, ati drivers are not exactly primo these days
[04:46] <MikeRotch> still the same error after reinstalling then doing the same command
[04:46] <MikeRotch> sudo grub-install /dev/hda    = The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[04:47] <MikeRotch> that the error and command i did
[04:47] <Gun_Smoke> nickrud: looking at a ThinkPad T61 for a good price..
[04:47] <xen_caapn> Jordan_U: it does nothing.
[04:47] <neztiti> hi - i have problem with my dxr3 card - my screen is green  any help???
[04:47] <zeldafan500> theres a trick in audicity i found, de-amplify the whole track to where you can barely hear it, and bass boost it back up. it makes it sound awesome xD
[04:47] <nickrud> Gun_Smoke, I'm using a really cheap ati chip in my laptop. Fine for day to day, can get all the effects, but buggy
[04:47] <alecw1> Odd question... how do you start the terminal FROM the terminal?
[04:47] <bruenig> Jordan_U, what do you think
[04:48] <Jordan_U> MikeRotch, run "sudo grub" then from the prompt it gives run "find /boot/grub/stage1" and tell us what it says
[04:48] <nat1192> gnome-terminal i think
[04:48] <nickrud> alecw1, gnome-terminal is the command
[04:48] <alecw1> thanks.
[04:48] <quaal> whats the best ftp program
[04:48] <bruenig> !best | quaal gftp
[04:48] <ubotu> quaal gftp: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:49] <nat1192> I use gftp but some like filezilla
[04:49] <MikeRotch> it says     (hd0,1)
[04:49] <quaal> bruenig, i said that for a suggestion from people.
[04:49] <Gun_Smoke> nickrud: I'm in the market for a new laptop for school.. Want good priced power..
[04:49] <bruenig> quaal, I just put it up as a disclaimer
[04:50] <Jordan_U> bruenig, It doesn't seem to be able to find the grub stage from the first partition
[04:50] <MikeRotch> it says (hd0,1)
[04:50] <Jordan_U> Gun_Smoke, You might look at one of the new Ubuntu-dells
[04:50] <bruenig> how does it find the other one since the other one isn't mounted
[04:50] <nickrud> Gun_Smoke, If you're not totally excited to have all the latest 3d gl goodies, then ati is fine.
[04:50] <bruenig> it must be working off of some old config files or something
[04:50] <MikeRotch> i dunno how to tell which one i am boot from
[04:51] <Jordan_U> bruenig, Grub is in it's own world, it doesn't need the file system mounted
[04:51] <Gun_Smoke> nickrud: Well goodies are good.. Not mandatory.
[04:51] <bruenig> MikeRotch, run root (hd0,0)
[04:51] <MikeRotch> in terminal?
[04:52] <bobgill> how can I unrar and see the progress of the extraction ie., % completed, time remaining, etc ??
[04:52] <dissection> I liked FileZilla on Windows so I used it on Linux as well but I don't know why but whenever I upload, it'd keep trying it again n again and kept prompting me if I wanted to overwrite, rename, etc. If I cancel and check the file on my server, it would only be half uploaded. I think tried gftp and thought it did its job very well although I didn't like its connect/disconnect button (too big). Apart from looks, I think its great. I didn't think I needed to l
[04:52] <Jordan_U> MikeRotch, From the grub prompt
[04:52] <bruenig> MikeRotch, in the grub prompt
[04:52] <dissection> *think = then
[04:52] <MikeRotch> ok i did that
[04:52] <bruenig> MikeRotch, try the find command again
[04:52] <zgj7755> Hello I just installed Ubuntu Feisty on a system that has no network connections until i can build ndiswrapper but i need to get build essentials installed on the system before i can do that, how can i install build essentials without an internet connection?
[04:53] <MikeRotch> same thing
[04:53] <jgoguen> bobgill: open a terminal, cd to the directory your RAR files are in, then use the command 'unrar x filename.rar'
[04:53] <MikeRotch> (hd0,1)
[04:53] <bruenig> hmm
[04:53] <obf213> i registered ekiga and all that. now when i open it nothing happens
[04:53] <Jordan_U> zgj7755, Get the packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> zgj7755: Download them on the machine you are on and copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:53] <jgoguen> bobgill: if you right-click the RAR and choose to extract, I *think* it will show a progress bar, but it's been a very long time since I've done that so I'm not 100% sure
[04:53] <dissection> back
[04:53] <obf213> if i open it with sudo. it can't find the sip or w/e and doesnt work but the gui actually shows up
[04:54] <Jordan_U> zgj7755, What chipset BTW ?
[04:54] <bobgill> nope, it shows a block that swings back and forth but no progress and no time remaining :/  Just would be handy for really big archives of my backups
[04:54] <neztiti> hi - i have problem with my dxr3 card - my screen is green  any help???
[04:55] <Disabled> neztiti try to restart PC:)
[04:55] <jgoguen> bobgill: guess the command line way is the only way to get a progress reading then
[04:55] <MikeRotch> no ideas bluenig? haha
[04:55] <obf213> is there a way i can see what happens when i call ekiga. that would help me explain why it doesnt launch
[04:55] <Disabled> neztiti or reconfigure your xorg
[04:55] <Veen> Anyone program in Ruby?
[04:55] <MikeRotch> bruenig my bad
[04:55] <MikeRotch> haha
[04:55] <latinoguy> existe el plugin flash para 64 bits o aun no?
[04:55] <jgoguen> obf213: open a terminal, type 'ekiga'
[04:56] <neztiti> Disabled: w8 u mean???
[04:56] <zgj7755> not shure about the internal hard wear it's a brand new dell inspiron
[04:56] <Veen> !flash64 | latinoguy
[04:56] <ubotu> latinoguy: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[04:56] <milllmannn> when i set up a mail server using postfix, do I need to create an ubuntu user for each user I add to postfix?
[04:56] <bobgill> yes so it seems, oh well no biggie :)
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> latinoguy: No
[04:56] <Disabled> neztitid do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:56] <bruenig> MikeRotch, not really, you can always remove the one off of hda2 and see if that helps
[04:56] <obf213> jgoguen, nothing happens
[04:56] <obf213> i dont know why it worked before
[04:56] <Lapinux> can anyone tell me what the ( ; ) in smb.conf is for, does it mean its commented out like the ( # ) ?
[04:56] <latinoguy> gracias
[04:56] <MikeRotch> yea i will try in gparted
[04:56] <MikeRotch> it may kick me offline though
[04:56] <MikeRotch> so i will return if it does
[04:56] <MikeRotch> 1 secnd
[04:56] <bruenig> don't use gparted
[04:56] <bruenig> just mount it and delete
[04:56] <neztiti> disabled : its tvout card -
[04:56] <MikeRotch> ok
[04:56] <MikeRotch> unmount it?
[04:57] <bruenig> gparted shouldn't kick you by the way, those two things are unrelated I have to think
[04:57] <Disabled> neztiti didn't know
[04:57] <Disabled> :)
[04:57] <Scoreed> wat does
[04:57] <Scoreed> and how can i fix it
[04:57] <Scoreed> Mean and how do i fix it?
[04:57] <bruenig> MikeRotch, do sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/hda2
[04:57] <taime1> how do i instal the divx plugin for firefox?
[04:57] <Scoreed>  /bin/sh cant access tty; job control mode off
[04:57] <bruenig> taime1, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[04:57] <NeoGeo64> What if IP relay was used on September 11th?
[04:57] <NeoGeo64> OH MY GOD THE WHOLE BLDG JUST COLLAPSED (SOUNDS SERIOUS) (SOUNDS UPSET) (RUMBLING IN BKGD) GA
[04:57] <Jordan_U> !ops
[04:57] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[04:57] <bruenig> looked like a flood was beginning
[04:57] <taime1> bruenig: i have that instaled...
[04:57] <bruenig> but never happened
[04:57] <taime1> installed*
[04:57] <MikeRotch> ok it is done
[04:58] <bruenig> taime1, sudo apt-get remove totem-mozilla
[04:58] <Scoreed>  /bin/sh cant access tty; job control mode off
[04:58] <NeoGeo64> I am sorry.
[04:58] <NeoGeo64> I forgot September 11th was offtopic.
[04:58] <Scoreed> how do i fix this
[04:58] <Scoreed>  /bin/sh cant access tty; job control mode off
[04:58] <trisreed> be patient
[04:58] <hamadooo> need help with upgrading my wireless drivier
[04:58] <bruenig> !codecs | taime1 make sure you have codecs installed as well
[04:58] <ubotu> taime1 make sure you have codecs installed as well: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <dissection> !security
[04:58] <ubotu> If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server
[04:58] <Jordan_U> Scoreed, Are you getting that from the liveCD?
[04:59] <dissection> !root
[04:59] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:59] <taime1> bruenig: totem-mozilla not installed
[04:59] <Scoreed> i think so
[04:59] <obf213> any ideas as to why ekiga doesn't launch anyone.. i have uninstalled i tand reinstalled it
[04:59] <bruenig> taime1, follow codecs link then
[04:59] <dissection> !firewall
[04:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:59] <Scoreed> trisreed was helping me b4
[04:59] <MikeRotch> bruenig do i delete the disk from the Computer folder?
[04:59] <trisreed> hmm i think he needs to reconfigure his hd as it was using windows before
[04:59] <EADG> Rented it a few years ago, was good.
[04:59] <nickrud> dissection, /msg ubotu !firewall <-- for personal info
[05:00] <bruenig> MikeRotch, is there anything in /media/hda2?
[05:00] <Jordan_U> Scoreed, That error is usually hard to debug in my experience, it is probably easier to use the alternate install CD
[05:00] <MikeRotch> in the Filesystem folder?
[05:00] <jgoguen> obf213: you could try 'ekiga -d 4' which is supposed to turn on debugging in console...but it did nothing for me...I've noticed if anything else accesses sound card it won't launch
[05:00] <Scoreed> and then it got filled with viruses can cant load windows
[05:00] <MikeRotch> is that what i am booted to>?
[05:00] <Scoreed> so download the text version?
[05:00] <bruenig> MikeRotch, on your computer,, do "ls /media/hda2
[05:00] <trisreed> yeah scoreed
[05:00] <Jordan_U> Scoreed, Yes
[05:00] <gerzel> Q: Can anyone tell me how to generate the debian menu?
[05:00] <Scoreed> ok ty
[05:00] <jgoguen> obf213: ekiga.org seems down right now so I can't check the FAQ :(
[05:00] <obf213> ok
[05:00] <MikeRotch> yes
[05:00] <MikeRotch> there is stuff there
[05:00] <MikeRotch> bruenig
[05:01] <nickrud> gerzel, sudo apt-get install install menu-xdg && killall gnome-panel
[05:01] <obf213> jgoguen, same as you nothing.
[05:01] <hamadooo>  WARNING: Your kernel contains ieee80211 symbol definitions and you
[05:01] <hamadooo> are not using the kernel's default ieee80211 subsystem.
[05:01] <hamadooo> what is that
[05:01] <Scoreed> ok downloading text verion now
[05:01] <Veen> gerzel: right click Applications button and click edit menus
[05:02] <hamadooo> help plz
[05:02] <nickrud> gerzel, herm, only one install in that line :)
[05:02] <bruenig> MikeRotch, ok so do mv /media/hda2/boot /home/username
[05:02] <gerzel> ok  thanks veen I'm in black box now
[05:02] <MikeRotch> that is going to make boot from first partition
[05:02] <MikeRotch> ?
[05:03] <hamadooo> help guys plz
[05:03] <xen_caapn> Jordan_U: --force did nothing. do you know where i should go from here?
[05:03] <bruenig> MikeRotch, it will just get the thing out of the way so that grub won't see it anymore
[05:03] <Jordan_U> xen_caapn, No, sorry
[05:03] <MikeRotch> ok i did it
[05:03] <nickrud> gerzel, in that case you should only need to install menu
[05:03] <Jordan_U> bruenig, I don't think that will help but it can't hurt to try
[05:03] <bruenig> MikeRotch, ok get back into "sudo grub" and then do that find stage1 thing again
[05:04] <bruenig> Jordan_U, maybe it is searching there first because that is what it knows already
[05:04] <gerzel> How do I use menu?
[05:04] <gerzel> I have it installed
[05:04] <taime1i>  have installed every stinkin codec known to man and i still cannot play divx streams online, it tells me that i am missing the plugin... what gives??
[05:04] <bruenig> I can play them
[05:04] <nickrud> gerzel, you should only have to run update-menus
[05:04] <intelikey> can someone that has the device do   ls -l /dev/fuse   for me please ?
[05:04] <Jordan_U> bruenig, No, it should search and find multiple /boot's
[05:05] <gerzel> do i have to run it as root?  sudo update menus?
[05:05] <Jordan_U> intelikey, crw-rw---- 1 root fuse 10, 229 2007-07-19 20:19 /dev/fuse
[05:05] <intelikey> thank you,
[05:05] <Jordan_U> intelikey, np
[05:06] <Jordan_U> taime1, Try right clicking and choosing open with totem
[05:06] <MikeRotch> bruenig i got this
[05:06] <MikeRotch> Error 15: File not found
[05:06] <nickrud>   gerzel yes
[05:06] <bruenig> oh man
[05:06] <gerzel> yes!  got it, just had to restart bb
[05:06] <gerzel> thanks nickrud
[05:06] <bruenig> try replacing /boot with the boot directory in /home/username
[05:06] <MikeRotch> haha ye ai know
[05:07] <MikeRotch> what?
[05:07] <nickrud> gerzel, when was the last time blackbox was updated, I haven't tried it recently
[05:07] <bruenig> MikeRotch, there should be a directory in your home directory called boot, move it to /
[05:07] <intelikey> ok that fixes file sharing.      what else can i do on a lan....   ???
[05:07] <taime1> bruenig: will you test this site and tell me if its just the site?: http://www.vdo4free.com/show.php?id=538
[05:07] <nickrud> intelikey, printer sharing
[05:08] <gerzel> nickrud: I honestly dunno, I have tried it off and on for a while.
[05:08] <nickrud> then music streaming....
[05:08] <gerzel> Didn't pay attention to the updates
[05:08] <intelikey> nickrud ah yes.    that will have to wait a little while i don't have a printer
[05:08] <ArielMT> Hello.  wine_0.9.33-0ubuntu1 arrived in my updates this morning, but ever since I installed it, the URL links in my Windows programs quit working.  Clicking a link, which previously opened Firefox natively, now simply does nothing.  Feeding a link to winebrowser opens Firefox natively as expected.  No other programs were updated.  Anyone have any ideas that could help, please?
[05:08] <bruenig> taime1, there appears to be a weird server thing happening, mplayer plugin is picking it up, but it isn't getting anything
[05:09] <intelikey> nickrud mucic streeming ?     naw  i'll pass on that
[05:09] <taime1> bruenig: mine just tells me that i dont have the plugin...
[05:09] <nickrud> intelikey, centralized on demand video ?
[05:09] <bruenig> taime1, you musn't have mozilla-mplayer installed
[05:09] <intelikey> hmm     nah
[05:09] <taime1> bruenig: i do tho
[05:10] <bruenig> taime1, you clearly don't or you are missing a codec
[05:10] <taime1> bruenig: i can play any other file type
[05:10] <intelikey> not much of a "multimedia" buff
[05:10] <taime1> bruenig: i know whats installed... i can send you a screenshot
[05:10] <bruenig> taime1, go get some codecs
[05:10] <tante> car co
[05:10] <bruenig> I can play divx stuff on two different boxes, you are missing something
[05:10] <Jordan_U> taime1, Try right clicking and choosing open with totem
[05:10] <taime1> bruenig: obviously!
[05:10] <MikeRotch> bruenig i seen that folder for like ten seconds now it's liek it disappeared
[05:10] <MikeRotch> it's f*ckin nuts
[05:11] <taime1> bruenig: the question is what.. and why?
[05:11] <Jordan_U> taime1, Try right clicking and choosing open with totem
[05:11] <bruenig> taime1, codecs
[05:11] <taime1> jordan_u: its a stream and i dont have that right click option
[05:11] <intelikey> ok i'm went.    thanks   for all the input.
[05:11] <taime1> bruenig: have them!
[05:11] <Jordan_U> taime1, You should if you are using totem-mozilla
[05:12] <bruenig> taime1, you clearly do not
[05:12] <Jordan_U> taime1, If you have the codecs installed for totem but you aren't using toem-mozilla it won't work
[05:12] <taime1> bruenig: dont talk to me like im an idiot
[05:12] <alecwh> Has anybody gotten the Dell Latitude D630 wireless card working? I've been trying all day, and no luck so far.
[05:12] <bruenig> taime1, how is it that I can play them with mplayer but you cannot, think about that hard
[05:13] <Jordan_U> alecwh, Broadcom?
[05:13] <bruenig> we both have mplayer installed allegedlyu
[05:13] <taime1> bruenig: this is a support channel, stop being an ass
[05:13] <alecwh> What do you mean, Jordan_U?
[05:13] <taime1> bruenig: if i knew that, i wouldnt be here asking
[05:13] <dzer0> hello
[05:13] <nickrud> bruenig, where'd you get your codecs? I have the ones from medibuntu, and can't see that stream either
[05:13] <bruenig> taime1, there is only two solutions, either 1 you do not have mplayer installed or 2 you do not have the proper codecs installed
[05:13] <dzer0> is SSH enabled in ubuntu 7.04 by default?
[05:13] <Jordan_U> alecwh, I think Dell's cards use broadcom chipsets
[05:13] <alecwh> Jordan_U, where can I find out?
[05:13] <bruenig> the 2 seems more likely as there are so many so it is likely you could be missing one
[05:14] <Jordan_U> alecwh, lspci | grep -i broadcom
[05:14] <ArielMT> dzer0: openssh-client, yes.  openssh-server, no.
[05:14] <taime1> bruenig: look, jackass, i will send you a GODDAMN screenshot... i HAVE the codecs installed.... now stop being an ass
[05:14] <Jordan_U> !language | taime1
[05:14] <ubotu> taime1: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:14] <bruenig> taime1, I don't think you do
[05:14] <alecwh> Jordan_U, yes, it is.
[05:14] <DigitalNinja> I would like to Video chat with a friend using Windows. I've got the cam working under Ekiga. Is there a service we can get that allows us to see each other?
[05:14] <Jordan_U> taime1, bruenig I think you are both right to a certain extent
[05:15] <bruenig> is it a firefox problem? not likely
[05:15] <bruenig> what else is there
[05:15] <macgeek> is there a way I can upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 or 7.04 without needing a CD? Perhaps a large update or something? I only have the 5.10 CDs and haven't had any luck burning my own CDs in the past
[05:15] <Jordan_U> taime1, My guess is that you have installed the codecs for gstreamer, but mplayer does not use gstreamer
[05:15] <taime1> jordan_u: i have both the codecs and mplayer-mozilla installed
[05:15] <alecwh> Has anybody gotten the Dell Latitude D630 wireless card working? I've been trying all day, and no luck so far.
[05:16] <bruenig> dell has wireless cards?
[05:16] <taime1> jordan_u: okay, so then what bruenig is trying to tell me is incorrect then
[05:16] <Veen> bruenig: haha
[05:16] <alecwh> ?
[05:16] <dzer0> ArielMT: how hard is it to get an ssh server running on here?
[05:16] <Jordan_U> taime1, Try removing mplayer-mozilla and installing totem-mozilla, if nothing else you should be able to use automatic codec installation with it
[05:16] <taime1> jordan_u: because he thinks that those two packages solve the problem
[05:16] <bruenig> taime1, codecs is not a package
[05:16] <taime1> jordan_u: bwill do
[05:16] <bruenig> taime1, it is a general term referring to a bunch of packages
[05:16] <taime1> bruenig: go to hell
[05:17] <bruenig> of which you must be lacking some
[05:17] <alecwh> Corrected: Has anybody gotten the Dell Latitude D630 wireless working? I've been trying all day, and no luck so far. I have a Broadcom.
[05:17] <taime1> bruenig: this is a support channel, not an "i can be an ass just because" channel
[05:17] <Jordan_U> taime1, I don't know, I personally don't like mplayer and I know that totem works with divix with the correct codecs installed
[05:17] <ArielMT> dzer0: not hard.  if you have synaptic installed, you can use the gui.  if not, just drop to a shell and type sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:17] <bruenig> be it different engines xine vs. gstreamer or some other thing
[05:17] <dzer0> ArielMT: alright will do thanks
[05:17] <bruenig> but it is definitely one of those two things
[05:17] <bruenig> let's scroll up and see where the craziness began
[05:17] <ArielMT> dzer0: don't forget to double-check /etc/ssh/sshd_config once you do.  me, i was impressed with the default settings.
[05:18] <Jordan_U> alecwh, Try installing bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:18] <bruenig> maybe it is some voodoo curse on the computer
[05:18] <bruenig> that could be it
[05:19] <d4rkmonkey> Anyone here use rockbox, that can tell me how to add songs to my iPod with it??
[05:19] <alecwh> Jordan_U, how does that work?
[05:19] <Aj--> hi guys i just want to ask about this new ubuntu 7.10
[05:19] <bruenig> !gutsy | Aj--
[05:19] <ubotu> Aj--: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[05:19] <robertwoes> hello
[05:19] <Aj--> is tribe 3 gibson ready
[05:19] <taime1> bruenig: what te hell is your problem? this is a support channel and you are not helping people, rather talking shit for no reason... make yourself usefull
[05:19] <jgoguen> !language | taime1
[05:19] <ubotu> taime1: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:19] <ArielMT> believe it or not, dell do sell wireless cards in their notebooks.  as of two years ago, when i got mine, dell offered their own dell wireless as default or the intel pro wireless as an option.  having heard horror stories with the dell wireless, i got my dell with the intel wireless
[05:20] <bruenig> taime1, ok so explain to me, what it could be, a media player doesn't work, so the problem is um python maybe? See my brain immediately goes, hey maybe there is something at issue with the media player but perhaps it is jdk I guess, could be alternate maybe, or grub even
[05:20] <bruenig> alternatives*
[05:21] <bruenig> probably gedit, check out gedit
[05:21] <taime1> why is bruenig allowed to stay in here and act this way??\
[05:21] <d4rkmonkey> taime1, because hes helpful and you aren't?
[05:21] <bruenig> you are the crazy one, I gave you perfectly good advice and you don't follow it, the logic is simple, we both have mplayer installed, I can see it you can't, what else could it be besides codecs, nothing
[05:22] <taime1> actually, he's NOT helpfull
[05:22] <taime1> the help that i got was from jordan_u
[05:22] <ArielMT> Hello.  wine_0.9.33-0ubuntu1 arrived in my updates this morning, but ever since I installed it, the URL links in my Windows programs quit working.  Clicking a link, which previously opened Firefox natively, now simply does nothing.  Feeding a link to winebrowser opens Firefox natively as expected.  No other programs were updated.  Anyone have any ideas that could help, please?
[05:22] <d4rkmonkey> taime1, he has been very helpful to me in the past.
[05:22] <d4rkmonkey> taime1, he is always helpful, except when people like you come in
[05:23] <bruenig> if my media player plays format X and your media player which is exactly the same as mine does not, there is only one solution
[05:23] <bruenig> codecs!
[05:23] <ReSpEcT> ? how do i get the genral opitions menu screen to close
[05:23] <taime1> you know... i asked a legitimate question and instead of help, i got spoken to like an idiot, whats FUNNY is that bruenig was DEAD wrong and jordan_U was CORRECT
[05:23] <bruenig> he said the same thing I did, he talked about codec engines
[05:24] <bruenig> gstreamer is a codec engine
[05:24] <bruenig> durr
[05:24] <d4rkmonkey> taime1, please stop trying to argue this.
[05:24] <taime1> its no wonder people are aprehensive about trying linux.
[05:24] <taime1> who wants to come to a support channel and get treated this way?
[05:24] <d4rkmonkey> bruenig, just wondering, do you know anything about Rockbox?
[05:24] <bruenig> yeah because they have to deal with newbs like you who fill up channels thinking they know something
[05:24] <bruenig> d4rkmonkey, no
[05:24] <d4rkmonkey> bruenig, ok then
[05:24] <ReSpEcT> jordan_u how do i close the genral opitions menu screen
[05:24] <noone64> anyone know why I can
[05:24] <d4rkmonkey> taime1, who gives support that would like to be treated this way?
[05:24] <taime1> thats funny, because you were WRONG
[05:24] <Jordan_U> taime1, No, bruenig was most likely correct
[05:25] <dzer0> Drama and computers do not go together.
[05:25] <d4rkmonkey> taime1, if you're nice to support givers, they'll be nice to you.
[05:25] <greatcaffeine> taime1: You act like you're paying for this support.
[05:25] <noone64> anyone know why I cant use commands like /set in irssi?
[05:25] <taime1> jordan_u your method worked, his did NOT
[05:25] <boyam> taime1: actually Bruenig and Jordan_U told you the exact samething...b een watching your thread
[05:25] <macgeek> is there a way I can upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 or 7.04 without needing a CD? Perhaps a large update or something? I only have the 5.10 CDs and haven't had any luck burning my own CDs in the past
[05:25] <rhlin> hi all, I am new to ubuntu and I am hoping someone can help me out.
[05:25] <mOrO^> how can I make installed apps the default players for shoutcast streams? (XMMS is installed and working)
[05:25] <kev_b> taime1, nobody agrees with you, f*** off
[05:25] <d4rkmonkey> macgeek, I believe there is
[05:25] <taime1> boyam: no they did not...
[05:25] <bruenig> taime1, you are making yourself look stupid
[05:25] <dzer0> hey guys take it to #ubuntu-drama
[05:25] <kev_b> : )
[05:25] <d4rkmonkey> macgeek, I think its like sudo update-manager -c or something
[05:25] <nickrud> boyam, yes, Jordan_U just gave you alternative media player, which happened to work
[05:26] <dzer0> or maybe #ubuntu-bitching
[05:26] <bruenig> #ubuntu-idiotvsroom
[05:26] <d4rkmonkey> macgeek, you'll have to upgrade to 6.06 then 6.10 then 7.04
[05:26] <d4rkmonkey> lol
[05:26] <nickrud> boyam, doh;)
[05:26] <Veen> taime1: bruenig was nice enough to even try helping you for free, you can't say that for a lot of people
[05:26] <dzer0> or even #ubuntu-ungratefulforFREEsupport
[05:26] <dwid> hi i just bought a samsung yp k3 mp3 player, any clue on how to get it to work with ubuntu?
[05:26] <boyam> lol nickrud..
[05:26] <Jordan_U> taime1, My method worked because it used the backend for which the codecs you installed work, if you had installed the appropriate xine codecs it probably would have worked, I don't know what packages those are though so I suggested you just use totem-gstreamer
[05:26] <Aj--> im currently downloading the gibson.. tribe 3 thus anyone uses gibson here?
[05:26] <taime1> i can say that for jordan_u who was correct and NOT an ass
[05:26] <Veen> dzer0: haha
[05:26] <rhlin> is there any way to reset password?  I cant remember my login and lost the paper I wrote it on.
[05:26] <Flannel> Aj--: gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[05:26] <d4rkmonkey> Aj--, I have a tribe 3 CD but I don't use it
[05:26] <jgoguen> taime1: they both told you to do a different method for exactly the same end result - installing codecs
[05:27] <taime1> i didnt install any codecs ... they were already installed
[05:27] <bruenig> taime1, like Jordan_U just said, gstreamer is a codec engine
[05:27] <taime1> what worked was when jordan_u told me to install totem-mozilla
[05:27] <Aj--> d4rkmonkey: are there some issue with it??
[05:27] <Jordan_U> taime1, bruenig was still right, and you are being much less respectful that he was
[05:27] <Flannel> rhlin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[05:27] <Aj--> i want to try it
[05:27] <dwid> hi i just bought a samsung yp k3 mp3 player, any clue on how to get it to work with ubuntu?
[05:28] <d4rkmonkey> Aj--, no, its just my comp isn't fully supported in Feisty so I've been trying Gutsy CDs to see if the Live CD works with them, and they don't work, so I don't bother installing
[05:28] <Flannel> Aj--: no issues per sey, it's just alpha software.  Just understand that it is buggy, and unstable
[05:28] <d4rkmonkey> Aj--, go ahead and try it :D
[05:28] <rhlin> Flannel:  thanks, I will check it out!
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> dwid: Many of those just show up as a usb drive when plugged in.
[05:28] <dzer0> why are all of the ubuntu help/wiki pages using HTTPS?
[05:28] <bruenig> dzer0, seems unnecessary doesn't it
[05:28] <dzer0> quite
[05:28] <xunil> Is gutsy working well now
[05:29] <taime1> i have NEVER been treated this way in this channel, am i am very disappointed. all that wa required was a simple, "perhaps totem-mozilla will fix the problem" and instead, i got spoken to like an idiot...and bruenig still thinks he was right when he told me to UNinstall totem-mozilla
[05:29] <Jordan_U> taime1, We are volunteers and I don't blame him for taking offense when you told him he was wrong when he was not
[05:29] <Aj--> ok ill give it a try after i download.. i have problems with fiesty coz it doesnt support 1440x900 reso..
[05:29] <Flannel> xunil: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy questions
[05:29] <kev_b> is there a good vnc client that supports file transfer? i don't think xvncviewer does it...
[05:29] <bruenig> totem-mozilla doesn't exist
[05:29] <Veen> Aj--: it's Gutsy GIBBON, just fyi, cause i thought you were talking about the guitar
[05:29] <dwid> jack_sparrow: it comes with an installation cd though
[05:29] <litral> hi
[05:29] <bruenig> woops
[05:29] <litral> How do you use ubuntu to run a memory test (ram)
[05:29] <ReSpEcT> ? yes but are yall gonna start answersing ?'s or keep arguing
[05:29] <d4rkmonkey> taime1, Look. If you're going to act this way, no one will try to help you with anything
[05:29] <bruenig> typo
[05:29] <litral> Which cd is that on
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> dwid: That is probably a cd for Windows OS
[05:29] <Aj--> opsss sory for that guys
[05:29] <dwid> and the only thing i can get it to do so far is charge
[05:29] <jgoguen> taime1: did you miss the many times Jordan_U said that bruenig was also right?
[05:29] <d4rkmonkey> taime1, please try to be nice to people and they'll treat you nicely.
[05:29] <bruenig> taime1, you don't realize that 90% of the time people have issues with mplayer it is because totem-mozilla is still installed
[05:29] <taime1> he WAS wrong... he told me that mozilla-mplayer needed to be installed and totem-mozilla needed to be uninstalled.... but the opposite was true in the end
[05:29] <d4rkmonkey> taime1, if you don't like this channel you can leave.
[05:29] <Aj--> i thought it was gibson
[05:30] <taime1> so i have to say, he was infact, WRONG
[05:30] <bruenig> taime1, you installed a different codec engine like I said
[05:30] <d4rkmonkey> taime1, stop arguing. Its you against the channel. You're wrong.
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> dwid: You plug it in and you dont see a drive letter pop up on your desktop?
[05:30] <bruenig> taime1, you will recognize down the road what happened, once you become more familiar with linux and codecs
[05:30] <kev_b> meh... troll
[05:30] <taime1> it doesnt matter how many times you say im wrong... it doesnt change the fact that bruenig was wrong and jordan_u was right
[05:30] <Jordan_U> taime1, No, you don't understand the basic issue and you are wrong, we took different approaches
[05:30] <kev_b> he isn't even making sense any more
[05:30] <ArielMT> litral: it's on the desktop cd (and i think server and alternate as well, but i'm just guessing there), and on your hard disk if you installed ubuntu.  the image name is memtest, and it's in the grub boot menu.
[05:30] <jgoguen> ReSpEcT: what general options screen?
[05:30] <kev_b> someone kick him out
[05:30] <dwid> jack_sparrow: no, no drive popped up
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> taime1: It is time to drop it..
[05:30] <d4rkmonkey> !ops
[05:30] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[05:31] <ReSpEcT> beryl
[05:31] <Catoptromancy_> So what? People try to help and sometimes are wrong
[05:31] <litral> k
[05:31] <taime1> well, call it an approach, but jordan_u's was correct, and bruenig's was not
[05:31] <d4rkmonkey> taime1, stop arguing.
[05:31] <Jordan_U> taime1, If I am right and I am saying that he was too what does that mean?
[05:31] <bruenig> if I can see it in mplayer, he can see it in mplayer
[05:31] <ReSpEcT> i poped it up and now i see no option to close it
[05:31] <taime1> how is bruenig correct again??
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> dwid: How famaliar are you with linux..?
[05:31] <bruenig> you just need the right codecs
[05:31] <dzer0> taime1: MS support wouldn't yell at you ever! So next time you need some codec help in Windows, just have your credit card ready...
[05:31] <dwid> jack_sparrow: im a newbie
[05:31] <nalioth> draconius: you rang?
[05:31] <nalioth> d4rkmonkey: you rang?
[05:31] <jgoguen> ReSpEcT: do you have an X in the top right of the screen?
[05:31] <boyam> taime1: because it boiled down to be a codec problem....as bruenig kept telling you...
[05:31] <Jordan_U> taime1, You did not have the correct xine codecs installed
[05:31] <taime1> dzer0: what does that have to do with linux?
[05:32] <ReSpEcT> no
[05:32] <dzer0> taime1: apt-get install sarcasm
[05:32] <Veen> taime1: you especially didn't need to start name calling and profanity
[05:32] <jgoguen> taime1: MS doesn't give free support, we do
[05:32] <d4rkmonkey> nalioth, uhh taime1 is just kinda kicking up a fuss
[05:32] <taime1> jordan_u that appears to have been the case, but again, he told me to do the opposite of what you told me
[05:32] <litral> thnx
[05:32] <kev_b> Does anyone know of a good vnc client that supports file transfer? i don't think xvncviewer supports this that i can see...
[05:32] <boyam> lol@dzer0
[05:32] <d4rkmonkey> nalioth, everyone is trying to control him but its not really workin
[05:32] <jgoguen> taime1: we don't ask you for a signed cheque to get support, we just give it on our free time
[05:32] <bruenig> taime1, it would be like if you asked for help getting mp3's to play in rhythmbox and I said to install the mp3 codecs and someone else recommended to install vlc which has those codecs statically built in, now we are both talking codecs but the approaches are different both work
[05:32] <ReSpEcT> but when i move the mouse over there and click it gives me jpeg image format
[05:32] <taime1> so how is was he right again??
[05:32] <litral> 6.06 desktop?
[05:32] <ArielMT> E: Couldn't find package sarcasm
[05:32] <Aj--> lols.. windows realy suck.. im currently using vista now.. and decided to go back to linux ..
[05:32] <BlueKnight> hey all, anyone here have experience running desktop ubuntu headless? I think i found a bug where it reverts to default vga settings even with proper drivers and settings inplace...
[05:32] <dzer0> ArielMT: apt-cache search irony maybe?
[05:33] <Aj--> the bluescreen always appear everyday
[05:33] <ArielMT> no hits :/
[05:33] <Aj--> that realy suck
[05:33] <Flannel> Guys, dragging it on doesn't help any.  Just drop it
[05:33] <dr_willis> BlueKnight,  ive never notiuced it doing that.
[05:33] <ArielMT> how ironic.  um, oops.
[05:33] <Veen> way to go Aj--
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> dwid: Trying to get some info.. I would suggest you try to mount it as a drive and if that fails work from there.
[05:33] <jgoguen> ReSpEcT:  try pressing Alt+F4 ?
[05:33] <bruenig> that is about as clear as it can be made, if he doesn't get that then it is hopeless
[05:34] <BlueKnight> dr-willis - really? Cuz its been running 1280x1024, i went headless and stuffed it in the closet and it will only let me select 800x600 and 640x480 now :(
[05:34] <dwid> jack_sparrow: how to mount it as a drive
[05:34] <ethereality> how do I change my keyring password?
[05:34] <dzer0> hmm... try: apt-cache search humor | grep understanding
[05:34] <ReSpEcT> nothing
[05:34] <dzer0> well then, I'm out of ideas
[05:34] <Veen> haha @ dzer0 and ArielMT
[05:34] <jgoguen> ReSpEcT: do you have any window decorations at all?
[05:34] <ArielMT> still no hits
[05:34] <Flannel> !offtopic | dzer0, ArielMT
[05:34] <ubotu> dzer0, ArielMT: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:34] <ethereality> nevermind
[05:35] <dzer0> !relax | Flannel
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about relax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <dzer0> :/
[05:35] <ReSpEcT> no the only thing that carried from the desktop is the bottom toolbar with the trashcan on it
[05:35] <ArielMT> ok, ok :)  i'm here because i need help.  i'm just waiting for someone to have a free moment to read my problem, is all
[05:35] <d4rkmonkey> Anyone use rockbox here? I asked in #rockbox but no one answered. how do i put music onto my iPod with rockbox?
[05:35] <d4rkmonkey> to me it seems like I can just copy and paste but I'm not sure
[05:35] <BlueKnight> who was asking about the keyring?
[05:35] <Flannel> ArielMT: have you asked in #winehq?
[05:36] <Raptor45> when connecting to a remote windows share on the network, sometimes it works other times it says the contents could not be displayed. any way to fix that?
[05:36] <jgoguen> ahh...you have a different problem then, you need to get your window borders back...unfortunately I don't know anything about that, I use Compiz Fusion on one box and Desktop Effects on the other, both work flawlessly...
[05:36] <ArielMT> Flannel: i just had an oh-duh moment.  no, i didn't
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> dwid: Here is a quick script to do that.. You start a terminal session and go through those 2 or 3 commands   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:36] <jgoguen> ReSpEcT: try searching on http://ubuntuforums.org/
[05:36] <Flannel> ArielMT: if they have no idea, you might check launchpad for a bug
[05:36] <ReSpEcT> k
[05:36] <unagi> are there better network monitors than the one ubuntu defaults?
[05:36] <jgoguen> ReSpEcT: sorry, I've never seen that problem before, but it sounds familiar so there's probably something there
[05:37] <dwid> jack_sparrow: ty
[05:37] <Jordan_U> alecwh, Going back to the wireless issue :) Basically Broadcom broadcom won't let Ubuntu distribute the firmware required to use the drivers that people wrote for their cards without any specs or help from broadcom, fwcutter grabs the drivers from their site and extracts the firmware
[05:37] <Rhino> hi all
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> dwid: np, You can get detailed help here if you need it
[05:37] <d4rkmonkey> Hey Rhino
[05:37] <Rhino> I got a problem with  "flashplugin-nonfree"
[05:37] <xunil> Not enough physical memory is available to power on this virtual machine.
[05:37] <xunil> If you were able to power on this virtual machine on this host computer in the past, try rebooting the host computer. Rebooting may allow you to use slightly more host memory to run virtual machines.
[05:37] <d4rkmonkey> Rhino, I probably can't help but whats your problem?
[05:38] <ReSpEcT> no help there
[05:38] <xunil> I have also put it on maximum physical memory
[05:38] <Rhino> the installation seems not to work the expected way - I will paste it to phpfi.com
[05:38] <ethereality> How do I change my keyring password? I went to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager and tried the section headed "Automatic Keyring", but it returned the following: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30658/
[05:38] <RoC_MasterMind> How can I see any restricted or multiverse packages on my system?
[05:38] <Rhino> http://phpfi.com/251188
[05:38] <Rhino> thats the problem
[05:38] <kev_b> Does anyone know of a good vnc client that supports file transfer? i don't think xvncviewer supports this that i can see...
[05:39] <xunil> do you know any good java irc channels
[05:39] <unagi> what is vnc
[05:39] <d4rkmonkey> ok Rhino, I'll try
[05:39] <BlueKnight> separate your vnc and files...
[05:39] <BlueKnight> use samba for files or something
[05:39] <Veen> OK I have a kick-butt machine and don't know what to do with it. Anyone have any ideas?
[05:39] <BlueKnight> unagi wiki vnc :)
[05:39] <BlueKnight> veen mail it to me
[05:39] <Flannel> xunil: try ##java
[05:39] <RoC_MasterMind> kev_b, from windows or linux?
[05:39] <BlueKnight> i'll mail you my p2 450mhz rig :)
[05:40] <Veen> BlueKnight: sounds good
[05:40] <kev_b> RoC_MasterMind: from linux
[05:40] <jgoguen> ReSpEcT: I found a possible solution for you
[05:40] <unagi> !vnc
[05:40] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[05:40] <kev_b> RoC_MasterMind: to windows, if that matters
[05:40] <BlueKnight> veen - also have a 386 (no clue on speed in mhz) with 64k ram :)
[05:40] <RoC_MasterMind> kev_b, On Windows, I use WinSCP to do file transfers through SSH...VNC doesn't do file transfer.  You could use an sftp client or command-line scp once you have ssh installed
[05:40] <Veen> BlueKnight: wow, running linux?
[05:40] <RoC_MasterMind> oh
[05:41] <RoC_MasterMind> kev_b, install a simple FTP client?  Filezilla Server
[05:41] <d4rkmonkey> Rhino, I'm not familiar with aptitude, To me it seems like when it was installing the flash plugin it couldn't confirm that it was installing the proper files. I'd suggest using apt-get (I could be wrong) and seeing what that does
[05:41] <keram> hey
[05:41] <BlueKnight> veen - put it together from how i found it... haven't felt brave enough to plug it in :)
[05:41] <keram> i have this problem with the brightness meter
[05:41] <Rhino> ok d4rkmonkey I will try
[05:41] <kev_b> RoC_MasterMind: oh, i thought it supported file transfer because the server (tightvnc) mentioned it somewhere
[05:41] <Rhino> thank you
[05:41] <keram> i'm using ubuntu on a laptop
[05:41] <BlueKnight> I'm hoping it'll run, i'll donate it to my schools cs department running linux or something
[05:41] <Ryoohki_> hi all i would like to update my 5.10 ubuntu install to 6.10 the ppc version
[05:41] <RoC_MasterMind> kev_b, *simple FTP server...FileZilla  Server is best way to transfer files to/from Windows server box.
[05:41] <Veen> BlueKnight: haha
[05:41] <keram> but when i press brightness up / brightness down keys it doesnt let me change brightness
[05:41] <RoC_MasterMind> !upgrade > Ryoohki_
[05:41] <Flannel> Ryoohki_: you need to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 then to 6.10
[05:41] <kev_b> RoC_MasterMind: I guess i will setup ftp then : ) thanks
[05:42] <Rhino> other question:  Is there no  "pidgin" package for Feisty Fawn??
[05:42] <Jordan_U> Rhino, I don't know if this is the problem you are having but there was a bug in flashplugin-nonfree not long ago, try updating to see if there is a new version
[05:42] <RoC_MasterMind> kev_b, yeah, FileZilla also is a good FTP client...same site.
[05:42] <alecwh> Can someone help me find a thread helping isntall the Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card?
[05:42] <jgoguen> ReSpEcT: open a terminal, or press Crtl+Alt+F1 to get to a fullscreen terminal...log in if necessary...and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:42] <Jordan_U> alecwh, Going back to the wireless issue :) Basically Broadcom broadcom won't let Ubuntu distribute the firmware required to use the drivers that people wrote for their cards without any specs or help from broadcom, fwcutter grabs the drivers from their site and extracts the firmware
[05:42] <Rhino> Jordan_U, already tried
[05:42] <RoC_MasterMind> alecwh, did you look on ubuntuforum.org?
[05:42] <Veen> Rhino: visit ubuntuguide.com
[05:42] <burner> Rhino: you can get a deb from www.getdeb.net and searching for pidgin
[05:42] <jgoguen> ReSpEcT: in the 'Screen' section, make sure you have these two lines:
[05:43] <jgoguen> ReSpEcT: Option  "AddARGBGLXVisuals"  "True"
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> alecwh: is that the bcm43xx chipset
[05:43] <jgoguen> ReSpEcT: DefaultDepth 24
[05:43] <Rhino> Veen, the page is only an advertisment page
[05:43] <Jordan_U> alecwh, So just install bcm43xx-fwcutter, let it grab the firmware and reboot or reload the broadcom driver with: sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[05:43] <alecwh> Jack_Sparrow, yes i think so.
[05:43] <Rhino> thank you burner
[05:43] <RoC_MasterMind> BlueKnight, click or server?
[05:43] <ArielMT> #winehq told me to upgrade wine, but I'm already at current (one version behind) according to apt.
[05:43] <RoC_MasterMind> *client or server
[05:43] <Veen> Rhino:  sorry try googling it
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> alecwh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174   is what I used
[05:43] <alecwh> how do I install that?
[05:43] <jgoguen> ReSpEcT: then save, exit, and restart X (press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to graphics, then press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)
[05:43] <Veen> Rhino: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[05:43] <intelikey>           can anyone good with apt/dpkg  guess at what this error is ?     http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38362
[05:43] <Rhino> burner, No results found for your search.
[05:44] <burner> !bcm43xx | alecwh
[05:44] <ubotu> alecwh: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> alecwh: I can walk you through that if you need help
[05:44] <Rhino> burner, @ pidgin
[05:44] <Flannel> ArielMT: you could always switch to using wine's official repos instead of the ubuntu ones
[05:44] <Jordan_U> alecwh, It is in the repositories, you need universe enabled I believe
[05:44] <intelikey> i'm at a loss
[05:44] <alecwh> Jack_Sparrow, that would be awesome! can you PM me?
[05:44] <BlueKnight> roc-mastermind er, want to use it for viewing/controlling
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> alecwh: Are you regg'd
[05:44] <burner> Rhino: http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=1045
[05:44] <alecwh> yes
[05:44] <Veen> Rhino: sorry here is the direct link to the pidgin part: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Pidgin_2.0_.28former_GAIM.29
[05:44] <BlueKnight> sorry roc-mastermind, lost it in the spam
[05:44] <Jordan_U> Jack_Sparrow, Are you just going to tell him to install bcm43xx-fwcutter or are you going to suggest NDISwrapper?
[05:45] <Rhino> thank you Veen
[05:45] <RoC_MasterMind> BlueKnight, I use uvnc.com for client....they have a server too I think.
[05:45] <burner> Rhino: the getdeb one is newer at 2.02 :)
[05:45] <Rhino> thank you burner
[05:45] <ReSpEcT> the proble i see is that the window itself is that it is up out of my screen and to the right
[05:45] <Rhino> is getdeb a source we can trust?
[05:45] <Veen> burner: that's good to know
[05:45] <Jordan_U> Rhino, Yes
[05:45] <d4rkmonkey> Rhino,  I'm pretty sure it is
[05:45] <Rhino> are you sure it will not f*** up any dependencies?
[05:45] <d4rkmonkey> Rhino, if you don't want to just compile it yourself
[05:45] <BlueKnight> roc-mastermind thx, i'll take a look
[05:45] <gobbles414> hi all... need some help setting up a scanner
[05:45] <Jordan_U> Rhino, Yes
[05:45] <ReSpEcT> is there a quick function i can press to move it
[05:45] <burner> Rhino: works wonderfully well here :)
[05:45] <d4rkmonkey> Rhino, its not *that* hard to compile from source, but you're gonna probably have to install some other things too
[05:45] <Jordan_U> Rhino, At least not with pidgin
[05:45] <intelikey> ReSpEcT can't just garb and move the window ?
[05:46] <ReSpEcT> nope
[05:46] <intelikey> ReSpEcT   alt   right mouse button
[05:46] <Bleed> pidgin doesn't have to be compiled from source
[05:46] <Bleed> you can get a .deb from getdeb
[05:46] <Nutubuntu> burner,  why a new rhythmbox? what's been improved ?
[05:46] <gobbles414> would somebody please help me setup my scanner
[05:46] <Bleed> Can anyone tell me how to fix this error?: sudo: must be setuid root
[05:46] <burner> Nutubuntu: lots :)  review changelog on gnomefiles or wikipedia
[05:47] <Jordan_U> Jack_Sparrow, The instructions you linked to are out of date
[05:47] <Nutubuntu> will do burner t/y :)
[05:47] <intelikey> Bleed chmod    but why is the permissions on it defunct ?
[05:47] <AndruC> so yeah.. um.  I need help with codec issues...
[05:47] <Bleed> I was playing with some things, lol
[05:47] <Bleed> And now I can't sudo
[05:47] <Bleed> :D
[05:47] <Bleed> Or open anything as admin :D
[05:47] <gobbles414> andru... maybe i can help
[05:47] <Nutubuntu> imo if it beats the current rhythmbox it will have to have been pretty special
[05:47] <Jordan_U> Bleed, You are going to need to boot into single user mode
[05:48] <intelikey> Bleed well you may have to boot to recovery mode  if you don't have root access
[05:48] <slavik> Bleed: what did you break?
[05:48] <ReSpEcT> think i got the keyboard i am using has a power button on it so i hit it and it gave me the option to log out so i am doing so now
[05:48] <Atook> My wireless card quits working when I wake the computer for sleep. (7.04) any ideas?
[05:48] <AndruC> gobbles414: hope so.  my media players refuse to believe i have codecs installed, except for VLC.  it plays stuff fine.  anything else refuses to play (mp3 specifically)
[05:48] <intelikey> slavik permissions
[05:48] <slavik> ouch, to what?
[05:48] <intelikey> sudo
[05:48] <slavik> ouch x2
[05:48] <slavik> yeah, single user mode
[05:49] <burner> Nutubuntu: the new look is awesome :)  and last.fm actually works in the new one
[05:49] <BlueKnight> atook, can you be a little more specific?
[05:49] <BlueKnight> atook - the card stops working, or the connection ends?
[05:49] <intelikey>           can anyone good with apt/dpkg  guess at what this error is ?     http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38362            just a good guess would beet what i've got...
[05:49] <ReSpEcT> ? though what is the min ram i can use with ubuntu cuz what ive red has given me 3 diffrent amounts
[05:49] <Atook> Blueknight: The card seems to stop working. I disable and re-enable wireless connection, but the card seems dead, and nothing happens.
[05:50] <Rhino> how can I uninstall a package I just installed via   dpkg -i   ?
[05:50] <intelikey> ReSpEcT installing from the livecd you need 192+
[05:50] <slavik> Rhino: search for it in synaptic :)
[05:50] <intelikey> ReSpEcT as to just running the system   32m will run ubuntu
[05:50] <BlueKnight> atook - you know how to use terminal?
[05:50] <ReSpEcT> got it installed but it is just so dern slow
[05:50] <Atook> barely :)
[05:51] <nickrud> intelikey, you can run DEBIAN_SCRIPT_DEBUG="1" sudo /var/lib/dpkg/info/fuse-utils.postinst configure   for more info
[05:51] <Cailen> can anyone tell me how to completely delete a program off my computer along with ALL of its components?
[05:51] <Cailen> it is called pokerstars
[05:51] <intelikey> nickrud thanks  i'll do that now
[05:51] <AndruC> gobbles414, so VLC is the only thing that is playing mp3 files right now (or video with mp3 audio compression).
[05:51] <ReSpEcT> it took right at 6 to 7 hours just to install
[05:51] <Atook> BlueKnight: barely, but I have one up now. :)
[05:51] <intelikey> without the sudo...
[05:51] <BlueKnight> atook - nod
[05:51] <BlueKnight> atook - type ifconfig
[05:52] <AndruC> even though, as far as i know, i have all necessary codecs installed
[05:52] <Atook> Blueknight: OK
[05:52] <BlueKnight> atook - tell me if it list a "wlan0"
[05:52] <BlueKnight> atook - with a ton of info next to it
[05:52] <Cailen> can anyone tell me how to completely delete a program off my computer along with all of its components?
[05:52] <ReSpEcT> got the monitior problem solved i do belive that ubuntu dosen't like the 52' plasma
[05:52] <Nutubuntu> !repeat | Cailen
[05:52] <ubotu> Cailen: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:52] <Cailen> ok
[05:53] <Jordan_U> Cailen, sudo apt-get autoremove --purge < application >
[05:53] <AndruC> ReSpEcT, 52 feet, eh?
[05:53] <ReSpEcT> 52"
[05:53] <Cailen> i tried that but it did not work...
[05:53] <reed026> I am attempting to install Ubuntu Server Edition onto my older PC, however when I attempt to install / check for defects all I get "ACPI : Unable to Locate RSDP"
[05:53] <Cailen> hold on let me try again Jordan_U
[05:53] <BlueKnight> andruc/respect - lol!
[05:53] <Atook> BlueKnight: No, just Eth0, Eth1 and lo.
[05:53] <Jordan_U> Cailen, Did you install the app with apt-get ?
[05:53] <Cailen> no
[05:53] <Atook> BlueKnight: and I'm connected via wireless right now. :)
[05:54] <Jordan_U> Cailen, A .deb?
[05:54] <AndruC> but yeah.  anybody know why my mp3 codecs refuse to be recognize?
[05:54] <gobbles414> you need w32/64codecs, some gestreamer0.10 files and all of the packages recommended for use with nautilus-script-audio-convert in synaptic you can get install instructions for these in ubuntu community help
[05:54] <Cailen> Jordan_U, the program was intended for windows so i used wine...
[05:54] <BlueKnight> atook - ok, so it showed up and is working then?
[05:54] <Cailen> the program is pokerstars
[05:54] <ReSpEcT> i was using the 22 lcd and werked fine but just now when i went to log on u needed 100x zoom to see the letters in the username box
[05:54] <gobbles414> NEED help with a scanner problem please:-D+
[05:54] <Bleed_> Ok
[05:54] <Bleed_> I can't fix it
[05:54] <Bleed_> lol
[05:54] <Jordan_U> Cailen, Then it is in wine's fake C: drive in your home folder
[05:55] <Atook> BlueKnight: No, I rebooted the machine to get the wireless going. As soon as it goes to sleep, the wireless card quits working.
[05:55] <Bleed_> bleed@MAYONAISSE$ sudo su -
[05:55] <Bleed_> sudo: must be setuid root
[05:55] <Cailen> i have uninstalled and deleted everything, then reinstalled it, but it still says i have a n account on my computer
[05:55] <Bleed_> Can anyone help me fix that?
[05:55] <intelikey> nickrud might as well be kanji to me...    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38364
[05:55] <BlueKnight> atook - nod nod, i'm trying to get you to see what things say when they are working... so we have something to compare not working to later :P
[05:55] <Cailen> this program only allows u to have one account per computer
[05:55] <BlueKnight> atook - so everything is working now?
[05:55] <Cailen> and  i am trying to delete it so it thinks i have no account on the computer
[05:56] <Cailen> so then i can start a new one
[05:56] <BlueKnight> atook - as in at this moment, not that there isn't a problem
[05:56] <Jordan_U> Cailen, Just delete your fake C: if you don't have any other wine apps
[05:56] <Atook> BlueKnight, seems to be, I haven't tried the wired LAN connection, but my wireless is working.
[05:56] <gobbles414> ok... i have a canon mp530 multifunction. the printer part works but the scanner does not. please help!
[05:56] <Cailen> ok
[05:56] <Cailen> will that delete Wine too?
[05:56] <intelikey> Cailen what only allows one account ?
[05:56] <Cailen> the program pokerstars
[05:56] <nickrud> intelikey, that's not even close to what I have; I'm running feisty, how about you?
[05:56] <Jordan_U> Cailen, I think it's in ~/.wine/
[05:56] <intelikey> nickrud dapper
[05:56] <Atook> BlueKnight, yes, everything is working right now, just after a fresh reboot.
[05:57] <nickrud> intelikey, hrm
[05:57] <Falstius> Cailen: do, mv .wine .wine-old && winecfg && wine installpokerstars.exe
[05:57] <Veen> Does anyone know how to get Nvidia dual monitors working?
[05:57] <BlueKnight> atook - ok, copy and paste what ever was next to that "wlan0" into a text file and label it as working or something of that sort. Then do the sleep thing and come out and see if stuff does what it normally does. If so, open terminal again, type ifconfig again, and copy and paste what it shows that time. Might give us something to go on as to why its not working
[05:57] <Jordan_U> Cailen, It won't delete wine but it will delete any other wine apps you have installed
[05:57] <gobbles414> Veen... have you tried the restricted drivers
[05:57] <Cailen> falstius, wut will that do?
[05:57] <CzarAlex> I just installed Feisty Fawn and ran the updates. My sound is crackly when using vlc. Suggestions?
[05:57] <Cailen> Jordan_U i will try but how do i do that?
[05:58] <Falstius> Cailen: it will give you a completely fresh wine install, and keep the old one around if you want it later.
[05:58] <hexstar> speakers in right hole czaralex?
[05:58] <Atook> BlueKnight, I'll give it a shot, thank you.
[05:58] <Veen> gobbles414: i got the restricted driver but how do i change setting and such?
[05:58] <Bleed_> sudo: must be setuid root - Can anyone help me fix that?
[05:58] <Jordan_U> Cailen, Do what Falstius said
[05:58] <Cailen> ok
[05:58] <Cailen> hold on
[05:58] <Jordan_U> Veen, gksudo nvidia-settings
[05:58] <BlueKnight> atook - np, I'll try to watch for you
[05:58] <gobbles414> not sure to be honest veen... sorry
[05:58] <Veen> Jordan_U: thanks
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Jordan_U: thanks for the info, I walked him through it and he now has bars and is a happy camper
[05:59] <intelikey> CzarAlex vlc set to use alsa output ?
[05:59] <hexstar> bleed_: http://pastebin.com/f7921f2c7
[05:59] <CzarAlex> intelikey: Ill try that right now.
[05:59] <Jordan_U> Jack_Sparrow, Does he have fwcutter installed, it will keep him automatically up to date on firmware
[05:59] <Jordan_U> ?
[05:59] <Falstius> Bleed_: you'll probably need to reboot the machine to recovery mode and then chmod +s sudo
[05:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Jordan_U: yes he has fwcutter installed
[05:59] <keram> anyone?
[06:00] <Bleed_> Ah, ok
[06:00] <Bleed_> Thanks guy, that helps
[06:00] <Falstius> Bleed_: ofcourse, if you managed to unset suid for sudo, there is probably more than just that wrong.
[06:00] <hexstar> also try this Bleed_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219767
[06:00] <hexstar> np
[06:00] <alb200000> Hello , is there any software for recording my computers screen? (linux)
[06:00] <CzarAlex> hexstar: yes. but good question.
[06:00] <Bleed_> I'll try it now, and thanks again.
[06:00] <Cailen> falstius, this is wut i did
[06:00] <hexstar> Bleed_: np :)
[06:00] <alb200000> Hello , is there any software for recording my computers screen? (linux)   Because I want to upload a video in youtube.
[06:00] <hexstar> alb200000: print key
[06:00] <slavik> sudo is chmod 0755
[06:00] <bagus> allow
[06:00] <Cailen> cailen@cailen-laptop:~$ mv .wine .wine-old && winecfg && wine install pokerstars.exe
[06:00] <Cailen> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/cailen/.wine'...
[06:00] <Cailen> wine: '/home/cailen/.wine' created successfully.
[06:00] <Cailen> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\install.exe": Module not found
[06:00] <Jordan_U> Jack_Sparrow, Installation of fwcutter is going to be added to restricted-manager in Gutsy, hopefully more people will be able to find it that way
[06:00] <burner> alb200000: gtk record my desktop or istanbul come to mind
[06:00] <alb200000> a video, not a screenshoot
[06:00] <slavik> don't suid it
[06:01] <Bleed_> That looks what I did
[06:01] <burner> !screencast | alb200000
[06:01] <ubotu> alb200000: Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[06:01] <intelikey> keram i can't find your Q  care to repete?
[06:01] <Bleed_> I think I chowned my /usr/ dir
[06:01] <Bleed_> lol
[06:01] <alb200000> thanks a lot!
[06:01] <nickrud> intelikey, I don't see any errors in that at all. I'd have expected you to get some error, since you showed some. Otherwise, I'm at a loss
[06:01] <Jordan_U> Cailen, run "wine /path/to/install.exe
[06:01] <keram> but when i press brightness up / brightness down keys it doesnt let me change brightness
[06:01] <hexstar> Bleed_: lol
[06:01] <Cailen> ok Jordan_U hold on
[06:01] <Cailen> ...
[06:01] <intelikey> nickrud yeah i'm at a total loss on that one.
[06:01] <keram> or something like that
[06:01] <keram> it shows the little brightness bar
[06:02] <nickrud> intelikey, wait a sec, urpmi??
[06:02] <keram> but it just flickers around the currentposition on it
[06:02] <keram> doesnt change
[06:02] <intelikey> nickrud it's just a script to apt     i'm lzy and don't like to type    apt-get install
[06:02] <Cailen> Jordan_U, this is wut happened
[06:02] <Cailen> cailen@cailen-laptop:~$ wine /path/to/install.exe
[06:02] <Cailen> wine: cannot find '/path/to/install.exe'
[06:02] <slavik> !urpmi
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about urpmi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <nickrud> intelikey, ok. You have a history ;)
[06:03] <RoC_MasterMind> What does the little ubuntu icon next to certain packages in Synaptic mean?
[06:03] <Falstius> Cailen: you need to give it the name of the pokerstars install program, /path/to/install is just an example.
[06:03] <Jordan_U> Cailen, I meant to replace /path/to/install.exe with the real path
[06:03] <intelikey> nickrud don't we all
[06:03] <brunner> hi al
[06:03] <hexstar> Cailen: the dirs are case sensitive, make sure to duplicate case exactly
[06:03] <RoC_MasterMind> !apt-get > slavik
[06:03] <Cailen> oooo
[06:03] <Cailen> ok
[06:03] <brunner> how do I combine modem init strings onto one line?
[06:03] <Cailen> hold on
[06:03] <nickrud> slavik, he wrote a script, and named it after a tool used on a competitor's packaging tool
[06:03] <keram> any ideas?
[06:03] <intelikey> keram i've never see that problem before.
[06:03] <brunner> I can't remember how to separate them.
[06:03] <Falstius> hexstar: I'm not sure they're case sensitive in wine.
[06:04] <brunner> is it a semicolon?
[06:04] <intelikey> keram could it be hardware ?
[06:04] <Falstius> Cailen: when you win your first million, donate it to ubuntu.  And when you lose your second million ... don't blame us ;)
[06:04] <hexstar> lol
[06:04] <slavik> nickrud: lol and urpmi is suicidal, it kills itself when it upgrades itself
[06:04] <AndruC> "Package w32codecs has no installation candidate" so what can i do with this?
[06:04] <MajorPayne> I just replaced my motherboard.  Will Ubuntu handle that ok?
[06:04] <burner> !w32codecs | AndruC
[06:04] <ubotu> AndruC: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:04] <hexstar> MajorPayne: yes
[06:04] <Cailen> Falstius: hahahah ok
[06:04] <holycow> MajorPayne, as long as the chipset is supported
[06:05] <intelikey> keram work ok with other OS's ?    i mean.   if it's hardware it should error in different system
[06:05] <AndruC> !Codecs
[06:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:05] <holycow> if you have a super new motherboard with a brand new chipset that doesn't have drivers, then no
[06:05] <nickrud> slavik, heh. It was very new when I switched away to debian, never really used. Just remember the name
[06:05] <ArielMT> how do i roll back to a previous version of a package?  the latest wine and dependencies have a bug that the previous version didn't
[06:05] <MajorPayne> holycow: Same chip set as the old one (The old one busted) but still a different motherboard.
[06:05] <nickrud> arg, it's late, I can't even spell anymore. Good night
[06:05] <CzarAlex> intelikey: Still crackly :(
[06:05] <hexstar> ArielMT: you may have to download and compile an older version
[06:05] <holycow> will be fine MajorPayne
[06:05] <keram> intelikey, i'm using gutsy tribe 3
[06:05] <burner> ArielMT: since it's wine though, just use the winhq.org provided repositories to get 0.9.41 :)
[06:05] <keram> intelikey, if that matters at all
[06:06] <intelikey> keram oh.   #ubuntu+1
[06:06] <burner> ArielMT: winehq.org rather
[06:06] <ArielMT> burner: i did, and i'm at the latest version.  the bug remains. :/
[06:06] <keram> ah okay
[06:06] <Cailen> ok the installere is called PokerStarsInstall.exe
[06:06] <Cailen> and it is located on my desktop
[06:06] <hexstar> ArielMT: you could try compiling the latest version
[06:06] <burner> ArielMT: bummer, you could ditch it and remove the budgetdedicated repositories and use the one in ubuntu
[06:07] <burner> !info wine
[06:07] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[06:07] <AndruC> i was listening to my damn mp3s yesterday, but today they just won't play
[06:07] <Jordan_U> Cailen, Then "wine ~/Desktop/PokerStartsInstall.exe"
[06:07] <Falstius> ArielMT: sudo apt-get install wine=0.9.33-0ubuntu1
[06:07] <Bleed> Hey thanks again guys.  it worked :P
[06:07] <Cailen> ok Jordan_U
[06:07] <Cailen> hold on
[06:07] <hexstar> lol....would be so funny if that poker installer launched spyware installers in wine
[06:07] <burner> AndruC: using rhythmbox? amarok? audacious? totem?  xine or gstreamer?
[06:07] <dr_willis> hexstar,  ive ran spyware installers in wine. just to see what they isntalled where.
[06:07] <ArielMT> burner: the new version arrived in updates this morning from ubuntu's repositories, and that's when the problems began
[06:08] <dr_willis> hexstar,  :)
[06:08] <holycow> hexstar, its possible indeed
[06:08] <Bleed> Now one more question:  I'm very tired of always having to enter my password, and I want to make it stop.  I'm the only one that ever uses my computer, what can I do to stop it?
[06:08] <ArielMT> Falstius: i'll try that, thanks
[06:08] <Cailen> no it is already installed Jordan_U
[06:08] <hexstar> dr_willis: what happened?
[06:08] <AndruC> rhyhmbox primarily, but it and movie player tell me the codecs aren't installed, but i know they are
[06:08] <BlueKnight> roc_mastermind left i take it...
[06:08] <Cailen> i want to completeley delete it and ALL of its components
[06:08] <dr_willis> hexstar,  i was able to see what files it copied where.. basicially :)
[06:08] <burner> ArielMT: aww, my apologies then, rolling back to old versions is hard :|
[06:08] <hexstar> lol k
[06:08] <Cailen> then reinstall it later
[06:08] <Jordan_U> Cailen, That should have
[06:09] <hexstar> dr_willis: ah cuz the spyware never ran, it was a dummy install basically
[06:09] <Cailen> it just asked to install again Jordan_U
[06:09] <dr_willis> hexstar,  then i copied the wallpaper/themes that it was also to install over to a cd for the wife.. thats all she wanted. :)  and i trained her to NOT use the spamware isntallers for that stuff
[06:09] <hexstar> dr_willis: haha nice
[06:09] <AndruC> burner, rhyhmbox primarily, but it and movie player tell me the codecs aren't installed, but i know they are
[06:09] <Jordan_U> Cailen, It should have been removed when you move .wine
[06:09] <dissection> !pgp
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pgp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <AndruC> and vlc plays them fine
[06:09] <Falstius> ArielMT: if you want to keep wine from updating, you can configure apt to exclude it ... but I can only remember how to do that for yum right now :)
[06:09] <dissection> !gpg
[06:09] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[06:10] <ArielMT> yum?  yuck :p
[06:10] <Cailen> ???
[06:10] <Cailen> What do u mean Jordan_U
[06:10] <Jordan_U> !pin | ArielMT
[06:10] <ubotu> ArielMT: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[06:10] <ArielMT> ty
[06:10] <hexstar> !exclude
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exclude - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <burner> AndruC: you have "ubuntu-restricted-extras" package?  check via applications -> add remove  and make sure to search all packages!
[06:11] <Nutubuntu> Cailen,  just out of curiosity. Are you good at poker?
[06:11] <Cailen> yes
[06:11] <hexstar> lol
[06:11] <Cailen> hahaha
[06:11] <AndruC> libxine1-ffmpeg is already the newest version.
[06:11] <AndruC> libxine1-ffmpeg set to manual installed.
[06:11] <Cailen> that is why i am going through all this
[06:11] <Falstius> ArielMT: yeah well, I use ubuntu and home and RH for work ... so all of the work type stuff I only know in RH :-/
[06:11] <hexstar> I can only imagine that there must be a native linux poker game somewhere...
[06:11] <buntunub> anyone have any luck getting thier integrated webcams working?
[06:11] <ArielMT> Falstius: don't feel bad.  i have to support centos at work, including on my own workstation
[06:12] <Bleed> There is a native linux poker game but not with real people
[06:12] <AJ--> ok im in linux now.. and able to fix my printer issues.. now how can i change the screen resolution to 1440x900 do i need to install driver for nvidia
[06:12] <Bleed> PokerStars runs really well in WINE
[06:12] <Cailen> i have over 1 million on my Pokerstars account that is why i would like to fix this
[06:12] <Jordan_U> buntunub, I have, but I am pretty sure I don't have the same model as you :)
[06:12] <Cailen> yes
[06:12] <hexstar> buntunub: that's something that sometimes works, and sometimes you have to google the cam's chipset to find kernel drivers to compile and install unfortunately
[06:12] <the_padawan> hi all. I'm setting up a new hd to dual boot windows and ubuntu. I would like for one partition (the biggest one) to be mounted on /home and yet be accessible to windows. Which filesystem should I use for it?
[06:12] <AndruC> burner,  i'm getting ubuntu_restricted_extras now
[06:12] <buntunub> i have a sonix microdia built in webcam
[06:12] <Cailen> Bleed, but i would like to completely delete all of its components and reinstall to make a new account
[06:12] <Bleed> Can anyone point me at a thread?  I've failed at finding a real solution :\ I'm very tired of always having to enter my password, and I want to make it stop.  I'm the only one that ever uses my computer, what can I do to stop it?
[06:12] <dissection> I just read that Crossover is just a modification of Wine, so why is it a commercial application? What features does it have thats better than wine that'll convince me to pay for it? Can someone tell me? :)
[06:12] <buntunub> 0c45:62c0
[06:13] <Jordan_U> AJ--, Yes, go to System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager
[06:13] <the_padawan> dissection, crossover handles all the intracacies of installing some of the major software, IE Word/Excel
[06:13] <AJ--> ok ill try Jordan_U
[06:13] <Falstius> !res | AJ--
[06:13] <ubotu> AJ--: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:13] <the_padawan> dissection, it really makes installation a breeze, and imho is well worth it
[06:13] <Falstius> AJ--: you don't need the nvidia driver, but it helps.
[06:13] <hexstar> ?dm restart?
[06:13] <hexstar> why the ?
[06:13] <buntunub> ive tried loading uvc drivers and nothing
[06:14] <the_padawan> hi all. I'm setting up a new hd to dual boot windows and ubuntu. I would like for one partition (the biggest one) to be mounted on /home and yet be accessible to windows. Which filesystem should I use for it?
[06:14] <Falstius> hexstar: works with kdm and xdm and gdm
[06:14] <Jordan_U> hexstar, So that it works for people that have kdm or gdm :)
[06:14] <hexstar> oh huh
[06:14] <AJ--> im using viewsonic lcd monitor
[06:14] <buntunub> shows up on lsusb -v as usb 2.0 webcam
[06:14] <hexstar> that's cool Jordan_U thanks for the explanation :)
[06:14] <AJ--> last time i system crash
[06:14] <burner> AndruC: that'll fix it
[06:14] <hexstar> the_padawan: ext3 is good
[06:14] <AndruC> burner, still nothing, even with what you recommended.
[06:14] <hexstar> oh wait the_padawan
[06:15] <Cailen> So (sorry to be asking so many questions) can anyone tell me how to completley delete this program called Poker Stars located on my desktop running of Wine?
[06:15] <hexstar> scratch that
[06:15] <burner> AndruC: restart rhythmbox
[06:15] <Falstius> the_padawan: it doesn't work very well.  If you format home to be ext3, there are reasonably stable drivers for windows.
[06:15] <hexstar> the_padawan: you'll have to use fat
[06:15] <burner> AndruC: it's ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:15] <AndruC> i did
[06:15] <dissection> the_padawan: Does the Pro version have even more capabilities for installing windows softwares properly, or just some additional features that're more appealing to corporates?
[06:15] <Jordan_U> Cailen, Again, what we told you to do really should have, did the installation think you had a previous install still?
[06:15] <hexstar> Cailen: you mean you installed it and now want to delete it or do you mean end a runnin g task?
[06:15] <Nutubuntu> Cailen,  I thought you did that already
[06:16] <Cailen> sort of
[06:16] <Cailen> i can uninstall it and delete all the files
[06:16] <Cailen> ...
[06:16] <Cailen> but when i reinstall it still says that i already have an account on my computer
[06:16] <luke_> Hello Ubuntuians ....
[06:16] <luke_> :D
[06:16] <hexstar> Cailen: do you still have the windows partition with the game installed?
[06:16] <Bleed> Can anyone point me at a thread?  I've failed at finding a real solution :\ I'm very tired of always having to enter my password, and I want to make it stop.  I'm the only one that ever uses my computer, what can I do to stop it?
[06:16] <Cailen> ???
[06:16] <hypertyper> /who skumby
[06:16] <AndruC> burner, still nothing.  i even have all Gstreamer plugins
[06:16] <burner> AndruC: do you get an error?  maybe your volume is turned down?
[06:16] <hypertyper> hrrmps
[06:16] <Cailen> i only have ubuntu on my computer
[06:17] <hexstar> Cailen: if you do you could skip the install and copy the game from the windows install to the linux install
[06:17] <Falstius> Cailen: even after you moved .wine?  Maybe it is tracking your IP?
[06:17] <hexstar> oh
[06:17] <AndruC> burner, i'm getting errors, specifically saying i don't have the neccessary codec
[06:17] <burner> AndruC: sure it's mp3?
[06:17] <Nutubuntu> Cailen,  *did* you mv wine??
[06:17] <AndruC> positive
[06:17] <the_padawan> dissection, not sure about pro version, i have the most basic one, but with it i have MS word/excel/.powerpoint working without a hitch. I don't recommend itunes, very laggy and hogs memory and amarok is better anyway
[06:17] <Cailen> no
[06:17] <Cailen> nutubuntu
[06:17] <Cailen> i did not
[06:17] <burner> AndruC: then i suggest that you dont' have ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:17] <Jordan_U> Cailen, Why not?
[06:17] <Bleed> :\
[06:17] <Nutubuntu> Oh. Cailen, if you did not mv wine, you still have your old installation. I thought you had mv it already ...
[06:17] <Jordan_U> Cailen, That is what we told you to do
[06:18] <dissection> the_padawan: I was looking at installing photoshop cs2
[06:18] <burner> AndruC: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:18] <Cailen> no it did not work sorry
[06:18] <Cailen> i thought i said that
[06:18] <hexstar> you can get rid of it easy mv /.wine /dev/null/.wine
[06:18] <Cailen> hold
[06:18] <Bleed> Anyone know how to stop entering your admin password all the time?
[06:18] <Cailen> on
[06:18] <Cailen> i think i got it
[06:18] <Cailen> ...
[06:18] <the_padawan> dissection, couldn't tell you =/ If you're feeling ambitious give it a shot with wine, but it won't be easy. also check out the crossover office demo version
[06:18] <burner> Bleed: you can add yourself to sudoers, but know the risks of always running as root
[06:18] <regeya> Bleed: a little planning in advance helps.
[06:18] <AndruC> burner, ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.
[06:19] <AndruC> 2.2
[06:19] <Bleed> I understand the risk...No one ever uses my computer
[06:19] <Bleed> And I'd like the control :P
[06:19] <hypertyper> what windows app are we trying to get running?
[06:19] <hexstar> Bleed: yes, but what about malicious websites? ;)
[06:19] <Nutubuntu> Um. Cailen - anything you mv to /dev/null is g-o-n-e ... just want to be sure you know that.
[06:19] <burner> AndruC: restart? :)  really, restricted extras is all there is to mp3 support
[06:19] <burner> AndruC: you could use totem-xine or vlc
[06:19] <dissection> Okay, I'm checking it out.
[06:19] <Bleed> What would be the difference to running them in Windows as Administrator?
[06:19] <Cailen> i want pokerstars COMPLETELY gone
[06:19] <AndruC> vlc plays fine.  anything else doesn't
[06:19] <bruenig> Bleed, none, that is the point
[06:19] <Cailen> so i can restart it
[06:20] <hypertyper> dissection: use gimp, instead. it runs natively, and is not *completely* different from photoshop
[06:20] <Falstius> Bleed: you have the control ...  There are a couple of things you can do.  sudo su (give you a root shell), edit the sudo config to incrase the timeout to be very long, or modify sudousers to not require a password from you.
[06:20] <Bleed> I always ran as an admin in windows
[06:20] <burner> Bleed: same thing, just know that any little random crazy app you download has root priveleges if you edit your sudoers
[06:20] <Nutubuntu> Cailen,  I wasn't reading earlier. Do you have anything you want to *keep* in wine?
[06:20] <TaJMoX> Cailen: sudo apt-get remove --purge [package name] 
[06:20] <ArielMT> Falstius: your downgrade answer worked like a charm.  thank you.
[06:20] <regeya> Bleed: do you run sshd?  do you completely trust it?  heh, I guess I do, though.
[06:20] <dissection> the_padawan: Once installed using CrossOver, if I double click on an .exe file, does it automatically open using CrossOver?
[06:20] <burner> Bleed: which is a horrible strategy :)
[06:20] <regeya> !root
[06:20] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:20] <TaJMoX> Cailen: or just remove the .directory
[06:20] <Cailen> no nutubuntu, i dont
[06:20] <shawn34> How can I use my dv camcorder as a web cam?
[06:20] <the_padawan> dissection, yes
[06:20] <regeya> dang.
[06:20] <hexstar> Bleed: it is VERY bad practice to always run as admin
[06:20] <Falstius> Bleed: those are in increasing order of stupidy, increasing order of risk.
[06:20] <bruenig> editing sudoers won't put him in root all the time, it will only put him in root when he uses sudo
[06:20] <awerner32> how can i make compiz fusion start on how can i make compiz fusion start on startup
[06:20] <Cailen> TajMox, how and what would that do?
[06:20] <AndruC> burner,  vlc plays fine.  anything else doesn't.
[06:20] <burner> Bleed: that said, I add myself to /etc/sudoers and call it a day :)
[06:20] <Bleed> I understand that.
[06:20] <bruenig> it will just mean no password
[06:20] <Jordan_U> dissection, GIMP is getting a complete UI overhall in the next version, should make it much easier to use
[06:20] <Bleed> I understand I could get owned, lol
[06:21] <TaJMoX> Cailen: find the .directory - by viewing hidden files in your home dir.... these are configuration files
[06:21] <hexstar> add yourself to sudoers and all it takes is a rogue website and you're gone :)
[06:21] <burner> AndruC: get libxine-extracodecs?
[06:21] <Newbie2007> !beryl
[06:21] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:21] <dissection> Jordan_U,hypertyper: I use gimp, but I have some .psd files that were originally created using photoshop. When I open it using gimp, some of the text layers were automatically rasterised. Thats why i wanted to see if thats the case when I open it in photoshop while in Linux using CrossOver.
[06:21] <Cailen> ok... Tajmox, let me try
[06:21] <burner> AndruC: if you have totem-xine, you need that for totem to play mp3s
[06:21] <Bleed> hexstar: what exactly do you mean?
[06:21] <regeya> Bleed, I figured this one out the hard way years ago.  I was running as root all the time, and tried automating removal of multiple directories, and through the magic of crap scripting managed to run 'rm -rf /'...as root.
[06:21] <hypertron> I have a problem, my computer cant write to other drives besides the partition. my partition is just for ubuntu itself, not files
[06:21] <Falstius> hexstar: to be fair, all of the files on my computer that I care about, I own.
[06:21] <bruenig> I don't think making a universal nopasswd exception in sudoers really puts you at a very great amount of risk
[06:21] <bruenig> most sites aren't going to run stuff using sudo
[06:21] <AndruC> burner,  i've got that libxine-extracodecs up to date as well
[06:21] <burner> AndruC: as for rhythmbox, you could restart teh pc, it may restart the esd service and anything else that may need to be restarted to recognize mp3 support
[06:21] <hexstar> Bleed: You know, sites that install viruses, malware, without the need to use your root password to get elevated privilages it is very easy for sites to do taht if you have a exploit on your system
[06:22] <Falstius> bruenig: which is why I suggested that instead of logging in as root.
[06:22] <burner> AndruC: maybe you don't have file permissions on these mp3s?
[06:22] <Bleed> Well what kind of viruses on Linux? o.O
[06:22] <aman> smkn 1 mjk
[06:22] <hypertyper> dissection: if i were you, i would try google. search for something along the lines of "wine photoshop"... but you're going to be extremely dissapointed with the performance
[06:22] <AndruC> burner, owner, read and write.
[06:22] <hexstar> Bleed: a site could say, take a remote command exploit if you were behind in updates and do a sudo rm -rf /
[06:22] <burner> Bleed: oen that consists of a .sh file that runs sudo rm -rf yourrootdirectory!'
[06:22] <hexstar> right!
[06:22] <hypertyper> dissection: photoshop is a resource hog in its native OS, running it under wine is going to be much less than satisfactory, i would think
[06:23] <hypertron> I need access to other hard drives but i dont have the permissions for them. can anyone help?
[06:23] <Bleed> regeya: I understand that's possible, but if I were running those commands I'd be using sudo them anyways?
[06:23] <burner> hypertron: fat32?
[06:23] <Falstius> hexstar: rm -rf ~ is just as bad for the general user as rm -rf /
[06:23] <AndruC> burner, and totem now gives me "There is no plugin to handle this movie."
[06:23] <burner> !vfat | hypertron
[06:23] <ubotu> hypertron: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:23] <hypertyper> dissection: alternatively, you might use vmware to run a virtual machine and run windows under linux?
[06:23] <hypertron> burner: ntfs
[06:23] <hexstar> sudoers = bad!
[06:23] <burner> !ntfs-3g | hypertron
[06:23] <ubotu> hypertron: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:23] <dissection> hypertyper: Did that already, thats why I asked here to see if there's anyone who uses it that way already. I was told on the forum that Photoshop works better with Crossover, than wine but can be a little buggy. I'm going to be using it for minor editing of a .psd file since I have trouble editing three specific layers of a file I have using gimp, and the rest of the work were gonna be done using gimp anyway.
[06:23] <burner> AndruC: beats me
[06:23] <ArielMT> it's only a matter of time before someone comes up with a printer driver installer .sh that does that.  there's already a printer driver that installs suid-root wrappers for common applications in linux :/
[06:23] <Bleed> Rule of thumb for me: Don't use rm -rf
[06:24] <regeya> burner, in all honesty, if anyone copy-pastes from irc without understanding what it is, don't they in fact deserve what they get?
[06:24] <Bleed> lol
[06:24] <hypertyper> and, since i'm here... does anyone have a recommendation on an easy-to-use, graphical irc client?
[06:24] <Bleed> hypertyper: xchat
[06:24] <albertmk> !youtube
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about youtube - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <Bleed> !xchat | hypertyper
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <Bleed> blah
[06:24] <AndruC> burner, where are codecs generally stored?
[06:24] <albertmk> sudo apt-get install x-chat maybe
[06:24] <Bleed> that's it
[06:24] <hexstar> lol regeya...noob: Hi, I did rm -rf and now my music is gone, what do I do? Should I reboot?
[06:24] <hexstar> :D
[06:24] <regeya> Bleed, and if you have cause to remove an entire directory structure, I take it you cry and shell out for a larger drive, or do you remove individual files and dirs? ;-)  point taken
[06:24] <hypertyper> Bleed: thanks, i'll look into it
[06:25] <albertmk> Do you guys know any website that saves youtubes audio?
[06:25] <burner> AndruC: you could... "sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-restricted-extras"  then "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[06:25] <hypertyper> dissection: your best bet, if you're looking for accuracy, would be to use vmware and run photoshop under windows, in a virtual machine
[06:25] <Bleed> regeya: Delete it from the GUI?
[06:25] <hypertyper> dissection: or dual boot, but that's a pain
[06:25] <regeya> oh, I see, graphical rm -rf ;-)
[06:25] <hexstar> haha
[06:25] <albertmk> Do you guys know any website that saves youtubes audio?
[06:25] <Bleed> You can delete folders?
[06:26] <hexstar> Bleed: yes you can :P
[06:26] <makaira> So, I was playing music in VLC from an external harddrive. I quit VLC and it's STILL PLAYING MUSIC. I have no idea how to stop it, other than a restart. Any ideas?
[06:26] <regeya> oh, shoot, #ubuntu...not #debian...my bad :-}  seriously I forgot what chan I was chatting away in
[06:26] <regeya> knew it wasn't nearly rude enough for #debian
[06:26] <burner> hypertyper: xchat-gnome is nice too
[06:26] <Bleed> So.
[06:26] <the_padawan> makaira, in a terminal do a ps -ef|grep vlc
[06:26] <hexstar> makaira: what does a ps -A | grep vlc return?
[06:26] <Bleed> Why not do it though gui?
[06:26] <Bleed> if I need to?
[06:26] <Bleed> lol
[06:26] <AndruC> burner, no luck
[06:26] <Bleed> Right Click > Delete
[06:26] <AndruC> i'm going to do a full reboot
[06:26] <makaira> makaira   9620     1  2 18:21 ?        00:07:06 wxvlc
[06:26] <makaira> makaira  19450 19429  0 23:26 pts/1    00:00:00 grep vlc
[06:26] <Bleed> Sorry about the multiline typing, bad habit >.<
[06:27] <the_padawan> makaira, do "kill 9620"
[06:27] <burner> AndruC: did you have ubuntu-restricted-extras when we started?  if not, did you reboot?  if so, do you have permissions to copy that file?  you said that same file works in vlc?  you have totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[06:27] <Cailen> ok TajMox, i think i deleted everything in Pokerstars let me try and reinstall, then ill get back and tell you if it worked
[06:27] <hexstar> Bleed: the point is if you add yourself to sudoers and remove the need to enter root password to elevate privilages when using sudo any rogue website could take a possible exploit tht you may be open to and do what they want with your files
[06:27] <xunil> I am running a java gui and all my windows are blank, this program works on other computers.
[06:27] <regeya> Bleed, to be fair, nowadays I tend to lean toward mostly gui, yeah :-)
[06:27] <makaira> the_padawan: thanks! that worked.
[06:27] <the_padawan> makaira, np
[06:27] <makaira> the_padawan: care to explain what you just told me to do?
[06:27] <makaira> so I may learn.
[06:27] <hypertyper> makaira: use top to find the pid of VLC, and then kill it
[06:27] <the_padawan> makaira, when you did ps -ef you list all the running processes
[06:28] <the_padawan> makaira, the |grep vlc part only displays the lines which contain the text "vlc"
[06:28] <Bleed> I've just never heard of these rogue websites :p
[06:28] <makaira> Ah. Thanks a lot guys!
[06:28] <hexstar> makaira: ps -A lists the processes, | pipes a command to another command, grep keyword parses output and looks for keyword in the output and displays lines with keyword in it. You found the vlc process and killed it using its pid
[06:28] <the_padawan> makaira, the number 9260 is called the pid - the process id. the command "kill pid" kills the process
[06:28] <the_padawan> hexstar, beating me to the punch :P
[06:28] <hexstar> :P
[06:29] <makaira> So every process has a pid. If something goes wrong with a process, I can just look it up in the terminal and kill it?
[06:29] <makaira> Like the task manager in windows, but a bit more hands on.
[06:29] <hexstar> Bleed: I have, trust me they're out there
[06:29] <regeya> can I hear an 'amen'?
[06:29] <Bleed> Alright :P
[06:29] <compengi> the_padawan, i use "kill -9 pid" what's the difference?
[06:29] <the_padawan> makaira, indeed. an interesting command to play around with is top, type man top in a terminal to see how it works
[06:29] <hexstar> -9 is a forceful quit
[06:29] <the_padawan> compengi, kill -9 is more brutal
[06:29] <makaira> Thanks!
[06:29] <makaira> Have a nice night.
[06:29] <hexstar> bp makaira, you too :)
[06:29] <the_padawan> makaira, you too, take care
[06:29] <hexstar> *np
[06:30] <the_padawan> hexstar, you type faster than me
[06:30] <Cailen> thanx... i did it TajMox
[06:30] <hexstar> hehe
[06:30] <Falstius> the_padawan: makaira: an alternative is to use killall -r 'vlc', which will stop anything with vlc in the name.  Carefull not to use it with common letter combinations.
[06:30] <hypertyper> Bleed: got time to give me a quick pointer? how do i configure xchat to connect to a specified irc server (not in the built-in list)?
[06:30] <litral> if you wanted to add an existing user to an exisitng group
[06:30] <Gaming1> Guys I have a word document with the extension .docx, office.org is not opening it, how do I open it?
[06:30] <litral> how would you do that
[06:30] <hexstar> Gaming1: right click, click rename, change extension to .doc
[06:30] <hexstar> then try
[06:31] <compengi> hypertron, type /server irc.serverthatyouwant.net
[06:31] <Falstius> litral: you can do it with the system->administration->users and groups gui.  Or edit the file /etc/group
[06:31] <litral> yea i got only server version here
[06:31] <Gaming1> Isnt that rather crude, I was wondering whether you have any plugin or something else...
[06:31] <hypertyper> compengi: duh, shoulda thought of that, thanks
[06:31] <compengi> hypertron, to open a new server windows ctrl + t
[06:31] <hexstar> Gaming1: Plugin for renaming files?
[06:31] <compengi> hypertron, np ;)
[06:32] <Falstius> litral: sudo nano /etc/group  and add the username to the line starting with the group name.  To change the default group of a user, edit /etc/passwd and change the second number to the group number.
[06:32] <compengi> window*
[06:32] <litral> thanks
[06:32] <hexstar> Gaming1: You can try opening OpenOffice Documents and using the Open menu option on the file
[06:32] <Gaming1> No plugin so that openoffice.org opens files with .docx extension
[06:32] <hexstar> *too
[06:32] <Gaming1> and I cant rename the file since the file is in NTFS partition?
[06:32] <hexstar> You could associate the file with openoffice sure, don't remember how off the top of my head though
[06:33] <buck> serious question on building kernel
[06:33] <AndruC> burner, yeah... no luck
[06:33] <MikeB-> evening all
[06:33] <buck> if i dont have an INTEL CPU should i eclude the /dev/cpu/cicrocode in the build
[06:33] <hexstar> Gaming1: To change file association: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/03/ubuntu-linux-file-associations/
[06:33] <intelikey> dpkg is not a very good package manger is it ?
[06:34] <hexstar> buck: why not just compile in everything? :D
[06:34] <Falstius> Gaming1: can't you just right click on the file and select 'open with' ?
[06:34] <intelikey> manager
[06:34] <hexstar> I mean that seriously, why don't people do that?
[06:34] <burner> AndruC: answer my questions maybe and I can help more!
[06:34] <Falstius> buck: doesn't matter.
[06:34] <buck> thats what windows does ..
[06:34] <intelikey> i wish ubuntu had a better package manager
[06:34] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38366
[06:34] <Falstius> hexstar: that can make unworking kernels ...
[06:34] <AndruC> burner, i'll answer them as best as i can
[06:34] <burner> AndruC: did you have ubuntu-restricted-extras when we started?  if not, did you reboot?  if so, do you have permissions to copy that file?  you said that same file works in vlc?  you have totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[06:34] <buck> myself i figure if it doesnt need it its taking up room
[06:35] <hexstar> Falstius: really? doesn't the kernel just not load drivers that are compiled in but ahve no physical hardware to work with?
[06:35] <buck> might as well get rid of it
[06:35] <burner> AndruC: using feisty right?
[06:35] <threethirty> hello all
[06:35] <buck> i want the kernel to be as small as i can get it
[06:35] <Falstius> hexstar: only if you tell it to.  And not everything is a module, some options affect how the core of the kernel compiles.
[06:35] <intelikey> why is dpkg so weak anyway ?
[06:35] <hexstar> ah true Falstius
[06:35] <Dhraakellian> okay, Compaq Presario 2100 w/ 40GB HD and 512MB RAM.  How would the automatic/guided partitioner split this up?
[06:36] <xuni1> I have my java gui comes blank on ubuntu but works on ther people's computer
[06:36] <hexstar> But damn it...it would be awesome to have a kernel with all modules... someday I'll get to it :D
[06:36] <Falstius> hexstar: plus, a pared down kernel can compile in about a minute.  The whole thing can take a lot longer.
[06:36] <threethirty> does anyone know where I can get some video of the wubi install
[06:36] <Dhraakellian> (thinking of doing the partitioning manually, since the installer's partitioner isn't responding terribly quickly)
[06:36] <AndruC> burner, didn't have extras when we started.  i installed them and nothing.  i rebooted and still nothing.  i do have permissions.  any file that has mpeg-3 audio seems to play but ONLY in vlc (does it have its own codecs?), totem-xine gives me errors regarding plugins/codecs
[06:36] <hexstar> Just think about how long the boot time will become :D
[06:36] <AndruC> and yes, feisty
[06:37] <Dhraakellian> 1GB swap, 5GB /, 34GB /home?
[06:37] <Falstius> hexstar: if they're all modules?  Won't make a significant different.
[06:37] <buck> I USE HIREM's boot 9.0 ...
[06:37] <buck> fore partidioning
[06:37] <intelikey> hexstar should not be any longer
[06:37] <hexstar> Dhraakellian: you only need two times the amount of ram you have for swap
[06:37] <hexstar> Falstius: ah awesome
[06:37] <Falstius> Dhraakellian: the automatic partitioner won't make a separate home I believe.
[06:37] <buck> how true is that 2 times the ram
[06:37] <buck> for swap
[06:37] <Dhraakellian> hexstar: 512MB*2=1GB
[06:37] <buck> i have 2 gigs of ram
[06:37] <KennyKix> i have a question about smb shares, i've shared the folders in the gui setup and deselected read only but no-one can access them from a xp pc, how can i allow xp users in?
[06:37] <dr_willis> buck,  not very now a days
[06:37] <intelikey> buck  i don't ever have swap
[06:37] <buck> so i should waste 4 gigs
[06:38] <the_padawan> buck, it's not hard and fast
[06:38] <Falstius> buck: these days, almost completely arbitrary.  Unless you want  to use hibernate.
[06:38] <hexstar> intelikey: no swap?!
[06:38] <dr_willis> buck,  unless you are doign suspend to ram and hibernate stuff
[06:38] <intelikey> hexstar never
[06:38] <hexstar> brave man, intelikey :P
[06:38] <Dhraakellian> (the ratio on my desktop is 2GB Swap (1GB per drive) to 768MB RAM
[06:38] <Dhraakellian> )
[06:38] <mrfr0g> When using the beryl window manager I lose my window options, such as minimize, maximize, and exit. Using nvidia fx 5500. I think that I need to install updated drivers but i'm not quite sure how to do that. Any have this or a similiar problem and have a soltuion?
[06:38] <buck> so i can have a 256 meg swap
[06:38] <hexstar> lol
[06:38] <dr_willis> i always just put a 512mb swap on ever hard drive on my system
[06:38] <dr_willis> helps with live cd's also
[06:38] <Dhraakellian> yeah
[06:39] <buck> well i am a newbie
[06:39] <compengi> intelikey, how could you run linux without swap?
[06:39] <Falstius> buck: yes ... although at that point you might as well not have any.  You can also make a swap file instead of partition.  Then you can have as much as you want, or don't want, without repartioning.
[06:39] <compengi> intelikey, how many ram you got?
[06:39] <hexstar> buck: and compiling kernels already, nice :)
[06:39] <Dhraakellian> dr_willis: the problem here is that I'm running off the liveCD and only recently got permission to blow away my sis-in-law's old XP partition that wasn't booting
[06:39] <azslande> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop, and its going incredibly slow, I was wondering if there is another way to install other than booting into ubuntu then installing it from there?
[06:39] <intelikey> compengi simple i have 96m of ram and dont need swap
[06:39] <buck> yeah .. i want to learn ..
[06:39] <Dhraakellian> which means no swap whatsoever until now
[06:39] <the_padawan> is ext3 or ext2 better for /
[06:39] <buck> so i am reading on compiling .
[06:39] <hexstar> azslande: there's an alternative install cd I believe that is text based
[06:39] <hypertyper> Bleed: any way to get a nicklist in xchat?
[06:39] <buck> and want to make this kernel to have just the bare essentials
[06:39] <dr_willis> the_padawan,  use ext3 when in doubt. :) no need for ext2 these days
[06:40] <Falstius> the_padawan: ext3 is better for pretty much everything.
[06:40] <buck> but be able to run the system
[06:40] <Dhraakellian> the_padawan: the only difference is the journelling
[06:40] <hexstar> the_padawan: ext3
[06:40] <the_padawan> k, thanks
[06:40] <Bleed> hypertyper: yep, 1 sec lemme look
[06:40] <intelikey> compengi another box with 256m ram   no swap   yet another with 384m ram  no swap
[06:40] <azslande> hexstar, would that be on the Ubuntu site itself?
[06:40] <buck> question on ext3 .. is that more stable than ext2
[06:40] <burner> AndruC: totem-xine just needs libxine-extracodecs to play mp3s.  Try totem-gstreamer instead just for kicks?  vlc does have its own codecs.  This is Feisty right?  Ubuntu 7.04?
[06:40] <compengi> intelikey, O.o i got 512MB ram and i got 84.6MB swap in use already
[06:40] <Bleed> hypertyper: move your mouse over to the right hand side of the window.  It's just pulled shut
[06:40] <Dhraakellian> the_padawan: use ext3 for everything except small removable media or for read-only partitions
[06:40] <hexstar> azslande: should be, check the mirrors
[06:40] <Bleed> hypertyper: click the edge and drag it over
[06:40] <Falstius> intelikey: I'm guessing you're using the console
[06:40] <azslande> hexstar, Thanks, I will look into it
[06:40] <hexstar> buck: ext3 is ext2 with journaling
[06:41] <AndruC> burner, yes, 7.04
[06:41] <hypertyper> Bleed: negative. perhaps a view option, i'll go poke it
[06:41] <Nutubuntu> ext3 and ext2 are stable; ext3 has some different features that can be seen as plusses and minuses, depending. basically what hexstar said, but if you delete a file in ext3 it's pretty much g-o-n-e
[06:41] <buck> i will have to look more into journaling .. sounds like has a file like windows .. what is that file on shutdown called
[06:41] <intelikey> Falstius i use console mostly,   but run kde blackbox gnome and twm   at times
[06:41] <hexstar> buck: journaling is generally good to have as it can save some files from corruption if you have a hard powerdown
[06:41] <Falstius> buck: journaling is the technology that makes you not lose your whole filesystem when the electricity goes out.  But it makes writing slightly slower.
[06:41] <Bleed> It should be there :3
[06:41] <Dhraakellian> so, with 512MB RAM, how best to split a 40GB drive, assuming I want a separate /home
[06:41] <Dhraakellian> ?
[06:42] <Dhraakellian> how much does Ubuntu generally need for /?
[06:42] <buck> .. ok that makes sense .. i will have to change from 2 to 3 ..
[06:42] <hexstar> Dhraakellian: just have a 1gb swap and then do the rest as you please
[06:42] <Dhraakellian> I'm used to having a 15GB / with Gentoo, but Portage needs a lot more space than apt does
[06:42] <Falstius> Dhraakellian: I have a fairly mature ubuntu install and I'm using 3.9G of /
[06:43] <hexstar> Dhraakellian: generally with today's OSes you can't have a partition with a OS on it that is less then 1gb
[06:43] <hypertyper> Bleed: there's a button at the bottom left that gives me a nicklist as a menu, but i wanted the list down the right side... *sniff*
[06:43] <dr_willis> splitting a 40gb hd... :) chuckles
[06:43] <SrbinoT> i need help ?
[06:43] <AndruC> burner, totem is asking me to search for a codec as well.  searching shows me three GStreamer packages, that are ALL installed.
[06:43] <SrbinoT> i need help ?
[06:43] <buck> i am just playing with this on a USB hd 80 gig .. only using 15 gigs of the drive .. if i like it .. i will install it on main drive
[06:43] <Dhraakellian> so 1GB swap, 5GB /, and 34GB /home is good?
[06:43] <SrbinoT> i need help ?
[06:43] <buck> so far i really like it
[06:43] <hexstar> SRbinoT: with what?
[06:43] <intelikey> Falstius & compengi it tickels me to watch linux users "freek" when you say "no swap"  just like it does to watch windows users "freek" when you san "firewall ?  what's that?"    or "anti-virus?  what for?"
[06:43] <burner> AndruC: I'm stumped... at least vlc plays them ;)
[06:43] <compengi> Dhraakellian, you need at least 2-3G for clean ubuntu install then as much as you would be using it's up to you
[06:43] <Falstius> hexstar: you most certainly can .. if you wnat.
[06:43] <SrbinoT> with MSN or something else like MSN
[06:44] <SrbinoT> to download on ubuntu
[06:44] <Dhraakellian> should swap be the first or last partition?
[06:44] <buck> about 3 more years and linux will be very user friendly
[06:44] <dr_willis> I got 15 gb used on / - and i got tons installed
[06:44] <Falstius> intelikey: we run a lot of servers without swap.  But for my desktop it isn't an option.
[06:44] <AndruC> burner, yeah, but i really don't like vlc when it comes to music
[06:44] <hexstar> SrbinoT: yopu want to message with msn?
[06:44] <SrbinoT> i need help ?
[06:44] <SrbinoT> yeah
[06:44] <hexstar> SrbinoT: use gaim then
[06:44] <SrbinoT> and i dont know how
[06:44] <hexstar> !gaim
[06:44] <the_padawan> buck, i'd say it's already there. tonight i am installing windows and ubuntu both, and the latter is much friendlier than the former
[06:44] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:44] <compengi> Dhraakellian, i guess it doesn't matters
[06:44] <hypertyper> SrbinoT: if you have a question, please ask. don't ask to ask, it just drags it out and makes people mad at you ;)
[06:44] <SrbinoT> to get something like MSN
[06:44] <leetcharmer> is there a way to connect to my edubuntu server without making a Thin Client have to boot into it?
[06:44] <leetcharmer> like if it's already on my network
[06:44] <hexstar> !gaim | SrbinoT
[06:44] <ubotu> SrbinoT: please see above
[06:44] <Dhraakellian> buck: linux is already extremely user friendly.  Just because it's not quite so... promiscuous... with whom it considers a friend...
[06:44] <leetcharmer> can I go to the terminal server client in ubuntu to gain access?
[06:44] <SrbinoT> listen now
[06:44] <intelikey> i just wish i could get dpkg fixed,
[06:45] <SrbinoT> if you want help me
[06:45] <hexstar> !gaim | SrbinoT
[06:45] <ubotu> SrbinoT: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:45] <compengi> Dhraakellian, just make sure that you have pointed to it in your install
[06:45] <Falstius> buck: if you think linux isn't user friendly, try recompiling the kernel in windows.
[06:45] <hexstar> lol
[06:45] <the_padawan> is this a no lol room? if not, lol.
[06:45] <hexstar> lol compile the kernel in visual studio, is that possible? :D
[06:45] <Nutubuntu> Do we have an interoperable equivalent of the Cisco vpn client for win?
[06:45] <buck> yeah i have noticed .. i was amazed at how cool this is .. i was afraid of it ..
[06:45] <Dhraakellian> I seem to remember reading once upon a time that it was best to have swap at one of the ends of the disk.  I think it was the beginning, but I'm not sure
[06:45] <Falstius> hexstar: no ... on so many levels no.
[06:46] <hexstar> haha lol
[06:46] <hexstar> thought sop
[06:46] <hexstar> *so
[06:46] <Dhraakellian> also, what's the easiest way to turn off tap=click with a touchpad?
[06:46] <buck> and it loaded real cool .. figured i would compile to the latest kernal 2.6.22.1
[06:47] <buck> was running 2.6.18.1
[06:47] <emanuel_> oi
[06:47] <dr_willis> Dhraakellian,  my laptop has a button on the touchpad.  to disable it.. heh ..
[06:47] <AndruC> burner, audacious works, and it its preferences i can see which plugins its using.  i see all my installed codecs and it plays fine.  i wonder if somewhere there's a setting that's pointing my media players somewhere else, when looking for codecs, by default
[06:47] <Falstius> buck: the latest kernel isn't stable.
[06:47] <hexstar> buck: have you done it yet? :)
[06:47] <dr_willis> Dhraakellian,  actually that disables the whole touchpad. :)
[06:47] <hexstar> lol
[06:47] <dr_willis> Dhraakellian,  theres a synaptic control tool  in the repos i recall
[06:47] <emanuel_> algum brasileiro ?
[06:47] <hexstar> what?
[06:47] <Dhraakellian> dr_willis: yeah, I don't want the all-or-nothing
[06:47] <Falstius> Dhraakellian: google for synaptic.  You can do that as an option in the xorg.conf.  There might be an easier way too, but I haven't look into it for years.
[06:47] <Nutubuntu> !br
[06:48] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:48] <buck> no i am where it says /dev/cpu/microcode.. for intel .. i have AMD do i will not load that into the kernal.. no i looked at the web site they said that this was stable ..
[06:48] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[06:48] <Dhraakellian> gsynaptics?
[06:48] <buck> or was it the patch that was stable
[06:48] <Dhraakellian> think I've heard of that before
[06:48] <burner> AndruC: doubt your pc is any different than the rest of us using feisty
[06:48] <Falstius> !br | emanuel
[06:48] <ubotu> emanuel: please see above
[06:48] <buck> becaue there is a patch.2.6.22.1
[06:48] <burner> AndruC: perhaps esd isn't running?
[06:48] <AndruC> burner, ah, audacious has its own folder for decoder plugins
[06:49] <AndruC> burner, what's esd?
[06:49] <burner> AndruC: enlightenment sound daemon.... just know that rhythmbox needs it
[06:49] <burner> AndruC: and all of gnome for sound
[06:49] <burner> AndruC: to be replaced by pulse eventually
[06:49] <Dhraakellian> okay, writting partition table with cfdisk
[06:49] <emanuel_> y don't speek ingles
[06:49] <burner> !ubuntu-es | emanuel_
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <Dhraakellian> since I somehow trust it to work more quickly than the installer
[06:50] <hexstar> what you speak emanuel?
[06:50] <dissection> !ftp
[06:50] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[06:50] <dissection> !Nautilus
[06:50] <Falstius> burner: he's speaking portuguese, not spanish
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <AndruC> burner, already running
[06:50] <dissection> !FTPd
[06:50] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[06:51] <buck> okay .. i pointed kernel to the amd athalon64 i exluded dev/cpu/microde  .. should i modularize or install /dev/cpu/*/msr
[06:51] <intelikey> well that was not the way to fix dpkg but i did it anyway.     rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/fuse-utils.postrm ;dpkg --force-all --purge fuse-utils
[06:51] <hexstar> emanuel: Voc compreende este?
[06:51] <dissection> !gproftpd
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gproftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <buck> i think i need tat .. because i want to run native 32 apps
[06:51] <intelikey> finally the package manager is not borked
[06:51] <Dhraakellian> ftp servers?  Y'know, I don't think we have any running in this house, what with sftp in sshd
[06:51] <burner> AndruC: alas, i'm at a loss
[06:52] <burner> AndruC: change the output of totem or rhythmbox to use oss or alsa or auto and try them all?
[06:52] <hexstar> emanuel: Try going to http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=en|pt and translating what you want to say to english
[06:52] <hexstar> emanuel:  	
[06:52] <hexstar> Tentar ir ao |pt de http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=en e traduzir o que voc quer dizer ao ingls
[06:52] <compengi> dissection, gproftpd is a quick GUI guide for configuring proftpd server
[06:52] <Falstius> buck: you don't need microcode, I don't remember msr.  There should be suggestions in the config for most of those ("if unsure, say no" type things)
[06:52] <AndruC> burner, i'm trying to find out what the default path is for where plugins are stored
[06:53] <Dhraakellian> okay, part of the reason I'm installing Ubuntu on this laptop instead of Kubuntu is that I'm experimenting with going as close to entirely Gnome/GTK as I can to see if I should finally give up my grudge against it
[06:53] <Dhraakellian> (or at least soften it somewhat)
[06:53] <buck> yeah .. i google search .. and chec it out.. .. if its like an intel p6 only thing like the mtrr i will probably not include it
[06:53] <hexstar> nope, KDE is still better :D :P
[06:53] <Dhraakellian> in that light, which music player would be the best replacement for Amarok?
[06:53] <Dhraakellian> hexstar: I don't doubt that
[06:53] <Dhraakellian> hexstar: the question is whether Gnome is as much worse as I remember it being
[06:54] <Dhraakellian> !;)
[06:54] <hexstar> Dhraakellian: ah
[06:54] <hexstar> !;)
[06:54] <Dhraakellian> and also, is there a Gnome equivalent of Klipper?
[06:54] <hexstar> no clue sorry
[06:54] <burner> Dhraakellian: glipper :)
[06:54] <hexstar> haha
[06:54] <Dhraakellian> !:) = weird guy with a belt on his head for some deranged reason
[06:54] <compengi> !pt | emmanuelux
[06:54] <ubotu> emmanuelux: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:54] <emmanuelux> why
[06:54] <buck> if this works out okay .. ima gonna install xubuntu on my 32bit barton
[06:54] <Dhraakellian> burner: you're joking, right?
[06:55] <burner> !info glipper | Dhraakellian
[06:55] <ubotu> dhraakellian: glipper: A clipboard manager for GNOME and other window managers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95.1-1 (feisty), package size 42 kB, installed size 280 kB
[06:55] <Dhraakellian> hmm... that triggers the bot
[06:55] <hexstar> lol...
[06:55] <Dhraakellian> (:
[06:55] <buck> burner
[06:55] <Dhraakellian> ooooooh!
[06:55] <buck> burner:
[06:55] <obf213> can somebody help me with wifi problems
[06:55] <Falstius> there is an #ubuntu-offtopic for good reason.
[06:56] <obf213> i can see all my networks, my card is recognized, but i can't log o n to my network.
[06:56] <buck> i am so glad that there are Channels liek this .. its awesome
[06:56] <hexstar> obf213: does your network have an security encryption scheme enabled (wep, wpa, wpa2)?
[06:56] <obf213> yes
[06:56] <obf213> wep
[06:56] <buck> i havent been this juiced on a computer in a while
[06:56] <Dhraakellian> bcm43xx-fwcutter = win
[06:56] <hexstar> try turning it off and see if you can connecte
[06:57] <obf213> it works on windows. but on linux it continually ask me for the wep over and over again
[06:57] <burner> buck: glad we could "juice" you as it were :)
[06:57] <hexstar> obf213: some cards can't support various modes of wireless security for some reason
[06:57] <burner> buck: type in the right key then :)
[06:57] <buck> the bcm 43 xx is on my other system . i will tackle that next..
[06:57] <hexstar> obf213: in that case it's probably the linux wireless driver
[06:57] <obf213> hexstar. it worked when i had kubuntu 6.04
[06:57] <obf213> i figured it would work now...
[06:57] <AJ--> ok im back now
[06:57] <Dhraakellian> obf213: try changing it to the 26-digit Hex version and then filling in the key
[06:57] <obf213> k
[06:57] <hexstar> obf213: yeah sometimes linux can have regressions unfortunately
[06:57] <Dhraakellian> if that's the form in which the key comes
[06:58] <buck> it just amazes me how this is all free too
[06:58] <hexstar> buck: indeed, very nice
[06:58] <Dhraakellian> buck: free and Free.
[06:58] <AJ--> i had installed the restricted driver and now how can i use 1440x900 resolution for my monitor???
[06:58] <buck> i can believe in the last 12 years ihave spent over 1500 on windows
[06:58] <Dhraakellian> paying for software (or pirating it, for that matter) is quite a foreign concept for me
[06:58] <holycow> buck, the fruit of good will
[06:58] <holycow> welcome to the darkside
[06:58] <hexstar> Aj: right click, Configure desktop, go to monitor
[06:58] <Dhraakellian> well, paying $$$
[06:58] <buck> and thats nt including office
[06:59] <AJ--> coz i dont see that on the resolution menu
[06:59] <holycow> here, stabbing people in the back has negative effect
[06:59] <hexstar> lol
[06:59] <holycow> s
[06:59] <hexstar> like MS making license deals with distros
[06:59] <holycow> bingo
[07:00] <Falstius> !res | AJ--
[07:00] <ubotu> AJ--: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:00] <hexstar> and then they back out when gplv3 comes out
[07:00] <holycow> its already over
[07:00] <hexstar> yeah
[07:00] <holycow> ms announced it will not support any gpl3 code with its certificates
[07:00] <Dhraakellian> burner: thank you ever so much for pointing me at glipper
[07:00] <AJ--> hexstar:  were should i rytclick?
[07:00] <holycow> novell just got stabbed in the back
[07:00] <holycow> as did xandros and lindows
[07:00] <burner> Dhraakellian: np
[07:01] <hexstar> just saying, kind of maddening that they had promised safety supposedly with their deals and of course really it turns out there is no such thing, microsoft was just in it for the exposure and money
[07:01] <buck> this is scaring me .. i am wondering if i really need the MTRR .. as it says it will write the operation of an image 2.5 times faster .. but its pointing to pentium pro and pent 2
[07:01] <holycow> hexstar, indeed
[07:01] <holycow> no such thing in the ms world
[07:01] <holycow> they NEVER EVER do anything but for their own benefit
[07:01] <holycow> ever
[07:01] <hexstar> holycow: yeah :(
[07:01] <Dezine> Hi, I'm trying to play Doom3, I'm pretty sure I copied everything to the right directory. So, I try running the game and I get "Couldn't find package opengl"
[07:01] <regeya> good christ what could frozen bubble need that requires a 22.8 mb download...oh hehe I see a whole lists of deps nevermind
[07:02] <hexstar> buck: you could always say no, make a note of that being an unsure option and see if anything bad happens
[07:02] <holycow> regeya, artwork and sound
[07:02] <buck> well would if i cant boot..
[07:02] <buck> hahahah
[07:02] <hexstar> save your current kernel buck
[07:02] <Falstius> buck: enabling it.  If it doesn't boot, going back to an older kernel and try again.
[07:02] <buck> oh yeha . i htink i have 4 kernals saved
[07:02] <hexstar> yeah, always save your current kernel
[07:02] <Dezine> oops, wrong error, I get "Sys_Error: Unable to initialize OpenGL"
[07:02] <buck> how do i go back to old kernal just in case
[07:03] <buck> i am sure it will tell me
[07:03] <holycow> select it at boot up time
[07:03] <AJ--> hexstar:  i cant seem to find the thing u said  ,, were should i rightclick?
[07:03] <Falstius> buck: nothing bad will happen from not enabling it.  So try enabling it first.  To boot an older kernel, hit esc while booting to get the grub menu and then select the kernel you want.
[07:03] <hexstar> usually you can install the new kernel with the old so that they're options together in te boot loader, not sure how though since I have yet to compile and install a kernel myself
[07:03] <hexstar> Aj: what gui are you using
[07:03] <hexstar> ?
[07:03] <hexstar> Aj: I was assuming it was KDE
[07:03] <AJ--> im using ubuntu fiesty
[07:03] <buck> okay .. .. disableing it ..
[07:04] <hexstar> Aj: no I mean, kde or gnome?
[07:04] <AJ--> i just installed it today
[07:04] <AJ--> kde
[07:04] <hexstar> ah, just right click on the desktop then Aj
[07:04] <Falstius> hexstar: it is trivial, you just add an entry for the new kernel to /boot/grub/menu.1st and don't overwrite the old kernel in /boot.
[07:04] <burner> AJ--: kubuntu feisty even :)
[07:04] <hexstar> Falstius: ah cool
[07:05] <hexstar> haha
[07:05] <hexstar> really gentoo doesn't seem like a serious distro
[07:05] <SrbinoT> hello i need help
[07:05] <hexstar> Funny how when I asked in their channel if it's good for a server they all instantly said yes
[07:05] <AJ--> hexstar:  the only thing i see here is desktop background and folders
[07:05] <Dhraakellian> hexstar: I ran it for a year and a half or so
[07:05] <Dhraakellian> twice
[07:05] <SrbinoT> i want to get MSN-Messenger
[07:05] <AJ--> wen i ryt click
[07:06] <SrbinoT> on ubutnu
[07:06] <hexstar> Aj: Hmm...not sure sorry
[07:06] <Dhraakellian> with a 6-month distro-hopping run in between the two stints
[07:06] <Dezine> srbinot you could use gaim
[07:06] <SrbinoT> tell me how man
[07:06] <SrbinoT> i dont know
[07:06] <SrbinoT> i am new on ubuntu
[07:06] <hexstar> !gaim | SrbinoT
[07:06] <ubotu> SrbinoT: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[07:06] <buck> i like that i can run ie4linux that was cool.. but i like the builtin browsers better
[07:06] <Falstius> SrbinoT: gaim supports basic MSN stuff (chatting), amsn supports more.  For all the bells and whistles I think you need to run the actual MSN in windows.
[07:06] <hexstar> haha ie4linux
[07:06] <hexstar> !gaim | SrbinoT
[07:06] <Dhraakellian> !ie4linux
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <hexstar> hey! :P
[07:07] <hexstar> !gaim | SrbinoT
[07:07] <ubotu> SrbinoT: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[07:07] <buck> gaim it
[07:07] <hexstar> lol
[07:07] <buck> !eating linux for lunch
[07:07] <Salmon_Maki> How do I make a launcher/shortcut for the Trash Bin? I tried "trash:" in the command of the launcher and it didn't work.
[07:07] <macgeek> I have Ubuntu 5.10 and the update manager says my distro is no longer supported so I can't upgrade to Ubuntu 6 or 7. Is there a way around this without having to burn a CD?
[07:07] <burner> Salmon_Maki: add applet, search for trash
[07:07] <hexstar> I've gotta try gentoo sometime...it'd be a fun project compiling everything
[07:07] <buck> there are some bots here
[07:07] <konam> hi
[07:07] <hexstar> !bot
[07:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:08] <buck> !bot this
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot this - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <konam> how do i know that i have dma=on in ubuntu feisty?
[07:08] <Dhraakellian> hexstar: it's not too bad once you're used to it
[07:08] <dissection> What directory do I put my windows fonts in?
[07:08] <Falstius> Salmon_Maki: right click on the panel->add to panel and select trash from the list ?
[07:08] <hexstar> Dhraakellian: yeah I'm sure :)
[07:08] <Dhraakellian> but coming back to a binary distro can leave you surprised at how fast your package management is
[07:08] <buck> i am amazed at all the people in this chat
[07:08] <hexstar> hehe
[07:08] <Salmon_Maki> Falstius, burner : I want to make a regular shortcut on the desktop, not in the panel. :)
[07:08] <Dezine> hey there's a lot of people in here as usual
[07:08] <Dezine> yeah*
[07:08] <hexstar> buck: yeah I love how the ubuntu channel is always active, fun
[07:08] <SrbinoT> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:08] <SrbinoT> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:08] <Falstius> Salmon_Maki: why?
[07:08] <buck> !love this chat
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about love this chat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <hexstar> SrbinoT: you have to append su to the front of the command
[07:09] <Dhraakellian> on the other hand, the output of Portage's emerge --ask --verbose --tree beats the pants off anything I've seen apt-get do
[07:09] <SrbinoT> and now ?
[07:09] <Nutubuntu> dissection, TTF fonts you put into ~/.fonts or a subdirectory of it will work
[07:09] <hexstar> !exclamation mark
[07:09] <SrbinoT> what i must do
[07:09] <buck> SU why does one have to do that
[07:09] <hexstar> !exclamation mark
[07:09] <SrbinoT> to get MSN
[07:09] <Salmon_Maki> Wow really spammy here today. :P
[07:09] <regeya> Dhraakellian: you have an odd reason for needing a nonstandard web browser?  ok, never mind that it's the ubiquitous standard, it's just not terribly standards compliant
[07:09] <buck> !all the bots are talking
[07:09] <burner> Salmon_Maki: alt+f2, gconf-editor, apps->nautilus->desktop check display trash
[07:09] <buck> these bots are wonderful wealth of knowlege
[07:10] <MrGreencastl1> I have an ATI radeon Xpress 1100, is anti-aliasing supported in ubuntu?  I want to make compiz fusion look nicer
[07:10] <compengi> Salmon_Maki, spammy?
[07:10] <Dhraakellian> regeya: yes, I do have a reason, actually.  my employer's employee information site is IE-only
[07:10] <Dezine> Srbinot, look in the aplications menu, look under internet, gaim might be there if not open a terminal and install it with sudo apt-get install gaim
[07:10] <hexstar> SrbinoT: you have to use su to become root temporarily as you need root privilages to install software on linux
[07:10] <Falstius> buck: don't play with the bots, it is difficult enough to follow this channel most of the time.  If you want you can /msg ubotu !questions
[07:10] <regeya> oh hehe Dhraakellian
[07:10] <Dhraakellian> I can't even log in with any of the big three linux browsers
[07:10] <Salmon_Maki> burner: thanks, i'll have to remember gconf-editor
[07:10] <buck> okay .. hahah
[07:10] <Nutubuntu> Dhraakellian,  same here. :/
[07:10] <hexstar> Dhraakellian: login to what?
[07:10] <burner> Salmon_Maki: np :)
[07:10] <dissection> Nutubuntu: I don't have such a directory. Do I just create it myself?
[07:11] <Dhraakellian> *tries manual partitioning this time, hoping that, if he leaves the current setup alone, it won't freeze on him*
[07:11] <hexstar> lol
[07:11] <hexstar> and you used gentoo :P
[07:11] <Salmon_Maki> Falstius: i dunno why i want the trash on the desktop, i guess i'm so used to it being there. My panel is already cluttered up with stuff as it is. :P
[07:11] <hexstar> I never use the trash in linux, just doing delete is fine for me :)
[07:11] <Nutubuntu> dissection,  you don't have .fonts as a subdirectory of your home directory? It is a hidden directory; if you are using a graphical file manager like Nautilus, you may have to turn on the display of hidden files and directories...
[07:12] <noodles12> damnit. why does FF in feisty keep randomly closing or freezing
[07:12] <Dhraakellian> hexstar: the employee information site
[07:12] <MrGreencastl1> I have an ATI radeon Xpress 1100, is anti-aliasing supported in ubuntu?  I knowATI is bad, but is there a way to do it?
[07:12] <hexstar> Dhraakellian: ah
[07:12] <Dhraakellian> so it's more convenient for me to check the hardcopy of my schedule at work
[07:12] <Nutubuntu> noodles12, firefox 2.0.x?
[07:12] <dissection> Nutubuntu: I did turn on hidden files and folders
[07:12] <regeya> it was amusing in our company to watch the odd disparity between departments--bookkeeping got set up with this neato IE-only system, has citrix installed, distributed instructions for installing and using the windows client to the local bosses...many of whom had shiny ibooks and macbooks with OS X only.
[07:12] <obf213_> how do you completely remove a program... when i unistall programs and reinstall them they always have the exact same settings and files.
[07:12] <hexstar> o_O
[07:12] <regeya> now granted you can do citrix on an os x box but it's just silly.
[07:13] <noodles12> Nutubuntu: 2.0.0.5
[07:13] <burner> obf213: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[07:13] <hexstar> regeya: what does citrix do?
[07:13] <obf213_> i want to completely remove exaime and redo it so i can add files that it didn't add properly and refused to correct
[07:13] <obf213_> ok
[07:13] <konam> someone can tell me how do i know if my dma is on, on ubuntu feisty
[07:13] <hexstar> I've looked at it, it just looks like a bunch of sevices
[07:13] <Dhraakellian> is there any way to have the installer just plain skip the partitioner and migration wizard?
[07:13] <burner> regeya: also look in ~/. files and folders for settings
[07:13] <konam> the dapper way doesn't work
[07:13] <Dhraakellian> like not even load them at all?
[07:13] <regeya> hexstar: it's kinda like vnc...or maybe vnc's kinda like a hobbled citrix :->
[07:13] <hexstar> *services
[07:13] <regeya> um ok burner
[07:13] <Nutubuntu> noodles12, it only crashes for me when I have it running ;p
[07:13] <hexstar> regeya: ah
[07:14] <Dhraakellian> (and yes, no matter what happens with this installation, I'm keeping all critical documents and such on my usbflash)
[07:14] <hexstar> :P
[07:14] <hexstar> use a NAS Dhraakellian
[07:14] <regeya> Dhraakellian: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page  WARNING I have not tried this but it comes highly recommended on the winehq site
[07:14] <Dhraakellian> hexstar: eh?
[07:14] <hexstar> network attatched storage
[07:14] <regeya> !nas
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <hexstar> so that you won't have to worry about the local filesystem setup
[07:15] <regeya> oh holy mother of crud.
[07:15] <Phreakazoid> anyone know where is a package for gstreamer0.10-wavpack for fiesty?
[07:15] <Phreakazoid> I keep on seeing "WavPack" mentioned in the docs, but there is no package anywyere
[07:15] <dissection> How come I don't have a .fonts directory? Is that normal?
[07:15] <hexstar> guys, look at the source code for the IE only site, I bet there is js that checks the browser version no? There is an extension for firefox that lets it identify as IE...that should work
[07:16] <burner> dissection: /usr/share/fonts or fonts:// in nautilus
[07:16] <Dhraakellian> hexstar: tried that with both Konqueror and Opera, iirc
[07:16] <Nutubuntu> dissection, you might want to look at http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/installing-microsoft-fonts/ -- it is mostly about msttcorefonts but has tips on fonts generally. You *ought* to have a .fonts directory; IDK why you would not. See bruner's comment ^
[07:16] <Dhraakellian> or maybe just konqueror
[07:16] <hexstar> Dhraakellian: oh :(
[07:16] <Dhraakellian> but anyway, it didn't work
[07:16] <azslande> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu on my laptop, and I am trying to setup the partition's, and I am not sure which one to choose. I have a restore partition, and windows already installed. Which option would be best to pick?
[07:16] <Dhraakellian> ja. ):
[07:16] <dissection> Nutubuntu: I did install msttcorefonts already
[07:17] <Falstius> hexstar: some sites don't work in firefox because they really don't work.  There are incompatibilities.
[07:17] <hexstar> Falstius: noooo! :P
[07:17] <regeya> I agree with hexstar Dhraakellian but if you say it doesn't work, it doesn't work...what, does it use an (ugh) activex control?
[07:17] <hexstar> regeya: it must ><
[07:17] <dissection> burner: Yes I have it a fonts directory in /usr/share, so thats where I should put all my Windows fonts? Does it require a restart or are they automatically installed already?
[07:17] <mind_shift> how do I change the splash screen?
[07:17] <regeya> Falstius: I believe hexstar was just offering it as a suggestion, something that *might* work...
[07:17] <mind_shift> splash thing
[07:17] <buck> question is $ and the # symbol the same .. if not how do i get to the # or do i just enter the # before the line
[07:17] <hexstar> regeya: right
[07:17] <burner> dissection: just use nautilus fonts:// to drag & drop fonts...
[07:18] <hexstar> buck: $ means you're a user # means root
[07:18] <azslande> exit
[07:18] <azslande> oops
[07:18] <azslande> lol
[07:18] <Dhraakellian> *installs gkrellm to keep an eye on memory use*
[07:18] <hexstar> lol
[07:18] <Falstius> buck: $ is for normal user, # is for root.  To enter a command as root use sudo.  To get a root shell use sudo su -
[07:18] <buck> ahh .. okay .. open up my root .. cool
[07:18] <regeya> also, xfce4-terminal can't accept the os x keycombo for ellipsis :-}
[07:18] <buck> yeah . i have a 2 root shells open
[07:18] <azslande> so used to using the terminal sometimes i type the commands in chats now...
[07:18] <buck> thank you
[07:18] <buck> duh .. i see it now
[07:19] <hexstar> azslande: ah lol
[07:19] <buck> if i just opened up the root.. would not have asked.. again thanks..
[07:19] <hexstar> buck: np :)
[07:19] <regeya> I need a ONE KEYSTROKE ELLIPSIS :>
[07:19] <hexstar> lol
[07:19] <Dhraakellian> regeya: single-char, you mean?
[07:19] <bobgill> What can I use to convert a .jpg or .png to .svg?? Gimp cannot
[07:20] <Lo_Pan> imagemagick probably
[07:20] <sauvin> What's an svg?
[07:20] <burner> !svg
[07:20] <ubotu> svg is Scalable Vector Graphics, a language used for graphical applications in XML, and a W3 recommendation. SVG Editors: Inkscape, Karbon14
[07:20] <Dhraakellian> hmm... <compose><.><.> = 
[07:20] <regeya> Dhraakellian: indeed, since it requires a key*combo* in macos :>
[07:20] <dissection> burner: I went to fonts:/// and dragged and dropped a font there but it didn't show up in that directory
[07:20] <regeya> good call Dhraakellian
[07:20] <burner> dissection, it goes to ~/.fonts :)
[07:21] <zak> bobgill: why would you want to do that? you can use inkscape's vectorization stuff [it might call it "trace"] , but keep in mind SVG is a very different kind of format to jpg/png/gif/...
[07:21] <MrGreencastl1> I have an ATI radeon Xpress 1100, is anti-aliasing supported in ubuntu?
[07:21] <obf213_> maybe i asked this wrong. but is there a way when i remove a package and reinstall it to ahve it be a fresh install and not have any of the previous settings
[07:21] <MrGreencastl1> or anyway to enable it?
[07:21] <NETWizz> How do I check if Ubuntu is Gneuine?
[07:21] <obf213_> completely remove/ purge does not fix this
[07:21] <bobgill> zak: trying to convert a .png icon to .svg for my gnome panel
[07:21] <NETWizz> I cannot find Genuine Check
[07:21] <NETWizz> How do I know my copy isn't pirated?
[07:21] <burner> MrGreencastl1, it is supported, probably already enabled... you can change to add subpixel rendering if you want it to be cooler still
[07:21] <MrGreencastl1> NETWizz, thats a joke right
[07:22] <hexstar> NETWizz: what do you mean? ubuntu is free
[07:22] <burner> NETWizz, it's a problem we all face ;)
[07:22] <sauvin> Bobgill, what zak said is operative. jpg and png are BITMAPPED formats, not vectored.
[07:22] <MrGreencastl1> burner, I want it to make compiz look nicer and smoother
[07:22] <bulmer> obf213 what indicators you have that purging or removing from previous install didnt help?
[07:22] <NETWizz> Well, I downloaded and burned it
[07:22] <dissection> burner: But I don't have a .fonts directory. I checked /usr/share/fonts/truetype and it isn't there anywhere.
[07:22] <NETWizz> Does that mean it isn't Genuine Software?
[07:22] <burner> MrGreencastl1, #ubuntu-effects, btw, use beryl or compiz fusion :)
[07:22] <zak> bobgill: well inkscape may or may not give ok results.. imagemagick might be worth trying [though i don't know if it will do it] .. but they are quite different, so don't expect it to look exactly the same.. and you'll have to tweak many a setting :)
[07:23] <burner> dissection, it creates one when you drag & drop to fonts:// in nautilus
[07:23] <bobgill> ok
[07:23] <MrGreencastl1> burner, thats what I'm using, fusion
[07:23] <hexstar> NETWizz: linux is free, it can be freely distributed and downloaded infinitely
[07:23] <asy> what root password
[07:23] <burner> MrGreencastl1, and your fonts look funny?
[07:23] <Nutubuntu> !root
[07:23] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:23] <NETWizz> I didn't think it is free
[07:23] <elite1_> hello
[07:23] <hexstar> linux can never be pirated for that reason
[07:23] <MrGreencastl1> burner, they're fine to me
[07:23] <NETWizz> I thought it was free like in open source
[07:23] <hexstar> NETWizz: it is, trust me
[07:23] <NETWizz> I heard you can buy linux
[07:23] <hypertyper> Bleed: aha! found the problem. xchat-gnome is broken. suggested workaround is to use xchat
[07:23] <obf213_> bulmer
[07:23] <asy> !root
[07:23] <hexstar> NETWizz: linux is free
[07:23] <MrGreencastl1> burner, I just want the cube to be smoother
[07:23] <NETWizz> Why else would stores like Fry's Electronics be selling Ubuntu for $79?
[07:23] <obf213_> i want to re add all my music
[07:24] <zak> NETWizz: you can buy linux, but what you're generally actually buying is tech support
[07:24] <asy> !root
[07:24] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:24] <burner> MrGreencastl1, oh, well... that's not so much anti-aliasing
[07:24] <elite1_> kubuntu rules!!!
[07:24] <obf213_> when i open it again. the playlist has the exact same songs it did before
[07:24] <asy> what root password
[07:24] <hexstar> NETWizz: because that's pure profit, they get it for free so they eg to keep all $79 from every sell
[07:24] <obf213_> and the library is exaclty the same.
[07:24] <MrGreencastl1> burner, how so? then what is it that I should do
[07:24] <NETWizz> I think it does cme with support
[07:24] <obf213_> i want to remove it so that when i open it is like the very first time i opened it. and i can re add the library
[07:24] <hexstar> if you lost your root password you can go in single user mode and use passwd to reset it
[07:25] <NETWizz> Hello, welcome to Ubuntu support, my name is Habeeb, can I please have your Ubuntu Serial Number?
[07:25] <burner> MrGreencastl1, get an nvidia or intel ;)  or petition ati/amd to release better drivers... or help the avivo open source ati driver project
[07:25] <bulmer> obf213_, where is the config files like those list you're referring to are stored at?
[07:25] <NETWizz> Then some dude gets in a chat room
[07:25] <Nutubuntu> dear goodness ... Fry's support? well, that explains it, anyone would pay big bucks for that.
[07:25] <albertmk> Sorry for asking it again. I need a software similar to Istanbul. Can anyone help me out?
[07:25] <asy> hexstar, how exactly in konsole
[07:25] <hexstar> NETWizz: linux is free, but some vendors like Ubuntu allow people to purchase support which is what you're seeing
[07:25] <obf213_> bulmer, where would i find this info.
[07:25] <AJ--> lols now its mess up..
[07:25] <AJ--> hahahah
[07:25] <MrGreencastl1> burner, I'm on a laptop
[07:25] <NETWizz> Okay
[07:25] <buck> yeah .. i always consult my FRY"S technician for all my computer woes.. hahahah
[07:25] <burner> albertmk, i use gtk-recordmydesktop
[07:25] <hexstar> asy: you can't do that in konsole
[07:26] <NETWizz> I think it is a big box with a CD probably
[07:26] <Nutubuntu> they're good on stock market tips too
[07:26] <asy> passwd root
[07:26] <obf213_> the whole program is gui so didn't have to create and save any config files manualy
[07:26] <MrGreencastl1> burner, I hate ATI
[07:26] <NETWizz> They are selling Dapper BTW
[07:26] <albertmk> burner, I will try that
[07:26] <bulmer> obf213_, i dont know..which program is this?
[07:26] <NETWizz> Can you belive they sell Dapper Drake
[07:26] <NETWizz> Why would they sell Dapper?
[07:26] <burner> MrGreencastl1,me too, though... i'm in an ati r250 (aka radeon 9000) and it kicks major ass with open source drivers and compiz fusion :)
[07:26] <hexstar> because people are stupid NETWizz and will pay for it
[07:26] <obf213_> exaile... its the gtk version of amarok
[07:26] <matias_> hello
[07:26] <buck> Gnome or KDE they both have pluses and minus' i suppose
[07:26] <asy> passwd: You may not view or modify password information for root
[07:26] <Dhraakellian> s/version/clone
[07:26] <burner> exaile is inspired by amarok, but i'd hardly call it the gtk version
[07:27] <Dhraakellian> ?
[07:27] <hexstar> yes like I said asy you have to reboot in single user mode to do that
[07:27] <zak> obf213_: ??? WHERE!? WHERE!? me want! :)
[07:27] <Nutubuntu> !sudo | asy
[07:27] <ubotu> asy: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:27] <hexstar> asy: http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/How_do_I_reset_my_root_password%3F
[07:27] <lkthomas> hey guys
[07:27] <Dhraakellian> what's the closest equivalent to Amarok under Gnome
[07:27] <Dhraakellian> ?
[07:27] <Dhraakellian> without actually using amarok
[07:27] <obf213_> zak: sudo apt-get install exaile
[07:27] <burner> exaile
[07:27] <burner> !exaile
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exaile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <lkthomas> I am looking for backports repos, anyone know where could I find it ?
[07:27] <buck> tell me ubotu KDE or GNOME
[07:27] <Dezine> Amarok works under gnome doesn't it?
[07:27] <hexstar> !backports
[07:27] <Dhraakellian> Dezine: yes, it does, but that's not the point
[07:27] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[07:27] <dissection> Do I need to install CrossOver office from its website directly, or is it available in repos?
[07:28] <Dezine> oh ok
[07:28] <obf213_> Dezine i heard it was buggy under ubuntu now
[07:28] <burner> oh well, it's at exaile.org... amarok does work under gnome, but the file select dialog boxes and everything about it is weird qt based ;)
[07:28] <zak> Dezine: yeah but not too well
[07:28] <Dezine> I like songbird myself
[07:28] <lkthomas> thanks hexstar
[07:28] <hexstar> lkthomas: np :)
[07:28] <zak> Dezine: some KDE apps seem to have a lot of fun with gnome's virtual desktops, for example
[07:28] <asy> reboot in single user mode how grub option
[07:28] <Dhraakellian> Dezine: the point is that I'm trying to go without KDE/Qt on this laptop as much as possible so that I can get the full experience and thus tell if Gnome really deserves as much scorn as I've given it in the past
[07:28] <obf213_> looks like exaile is a bust also. it randomly didn't add 8 songs and that is why i am trying to reinstall it.
[07:28] <hexstar> asy: follow the step by step instructions
[07:28] <burner> Dhraakellian, also check out listen... google for 'listen gnome' to find it
[07:29] <Dezine> you can use exaile, looks alot like it
[07:29] <obf213_> guess i'll have to find that config file
[07:29] <buck> dual core = 2 cpus woud you say
[07:29] <sauvin> rest assured that while I have no scorn for gnome, neither do I have any use for it.
[07:29] <Dhraakellian> of the big names, Rhythmbox and Banshee, which is better?
[07:29] <burner> rhythmbox... banshee is mono based and slow
[07:29] <Dhraakellian> okay
[07:30] <Dezine> try songbird, it has a nice gui
[07:30] <compengi> lkthomas, you could also check http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:30] <lkthomas> ok
[07:30] <Dezine> yeah
[07:30] <MrGreencastl1> burner, is there any setting manager for ATI cards
[07:30] <Dezine> I'm sure as development advances we'll see a .deb
[07:30] <burner> MrGreencastl1, driconf is the only one i know of
[07:31] <Dhraakellian> think I had too much open
[07:31] <burner> Dezine, lets hope, i've been playing with the 0.3 nightly :)
[07:31] <hexstar> lol
[07:31] <dissection> Anyone? Do I need to download CrossOver from their website, or can I do it from repos so it'll be easier to uninstall?
[07:31] <MrGreencastl1> burner, I want it to look nicer... and I saw anti-aliasing makes it look amazing, so
[07:31] <burner> MrGreencastl1, you using fglrx and xgl to get compiz fusion?
[07:31] <Dezine> burner, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird there is a bed
[07:31] <Dezine> deb*
[07:31] <arya_ok> yap!!!
[07:31] <Dhraakellian> 512MB RAM with no swap whatsoever
[07:31] <MrGreencastl1> burner, thats what I'm on
[07:32] <burner> Dezine, danke, i'm checking it out now
[07:32] <Dezine> np
[07:32] <Dezine> I needed to install it anyway, new ubuntu install here :D
[07:32] <compengi> dissection, did you check "apt-cache search crossover" ?
[07:33] <umop-apsidn> dissection, you might try googling "crossover ubuntu"
[07:33] <Dezine> had windows on my main pc for awhile but finally ditched it completly
[07:33] <burner> MrGreencastl1, xgl is just slow too... did you search the forums for antialiasing?
[07:33] <asy> banshee repository ?
[07:33] <burner> MrGreencastl1, or #ubuntu-effects?
[07:33] <AJ--> weeeeeeeee im set now..
[07:33] <hexstar> hehe
[07:33] <dissection> compengi: I tried that but it didn't say anything
[07:33] <burner> dissection, see if they have .debs for download
[07:33] <AJ--> now to install the compiz fusion
[07:34] <Dezine> nice, the deb works nicely
[07:34] <compengi> dissection, then it's not available in repos, you should either search the net for .deb file or get source and compile it
[07:34] <burner> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[07:34] <MrGreencastl1> burner, Its not that its slow, it runs fine. Its just that the lines don't look nice on the cube, as in you can see where the pixels are separating  (hard to explain)
[07:34] <hexstar> what is compiz fusion?
[07:35] <MrGreencastl1> burner, Its just very very obviously aliased
[07:35] <AJ--> ty burner
[07:35] <dissection> compengi: The file I'm downloading is an .sh file. Will that be difficult to uninstall if I don't want it? I've had trouble with installs before. I don't want to end up manually hunting down files and delete them
[07:35] <umop-apsidn> can someone drop me a clue on how to set my desktop resolution to something that isn't listed in the config file? i did it before, but i can't recall what the file was :P
[07:35] <burner> MrGreencastl1, yeah, sorry, got me... I bet it's and upstream compiz issue moreso than anything specific to you
[07:35] <Dezine> is there a way to convert a nrfs drive to something linux friendlier?
[07:35] <Dezine> ntfs*
[07:36] <burner> umop-apsidn, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the file... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg helps you reconfigure that file
[07:36] <hexstar> dezine: you could try gpart
[07:36] <sauvin> Dezine, not if you want Windows to still run on it.
[07:36] <umop-apsidn> burner: thanks for the info :)
[07:36] <burner> Dezine, gparted is the package name
[07:36] <Dezine> I don't need windows to run on it
[07:36] <hexstar> what is compiz fusion?
[07:36] <burner> !compiz | hexstar
[07:36] <ubotu> hexstar: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:36] <sauvin> then copy what you need from it and trash it.
[07:36] <Dezine> I run windows in vmware when I need it, which is only for photoshop
[07:36] <hexstar> yes but what is the fusion part? :P
[07:36] <Dezine> but even then I'm learning gimp
[07:36] <umop-apsidn> Dezine, what exactly are you wanting to do to it? more importantly, is there a windows os on that partition?
[07:36] <hexstar> !compiz fusion
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <burner> hexstar, basically the remerging of beryl & compiz
[07:37] <hexstar> oh
[07:37] <Dezine> No, no windows. don't want to have to mount it and such when I use it
[07:37] <burner> fusion == beryl fun plugins
[07:37] <hexstar> ah
[07:37] <hexstar> thanks burner
[07:37] <Bleed> Writing fire on your screen owns
[07:37] <Bleed> lol
[07:37] <hexstar> lol
[07:37] <Dezine> I had windows which is why it was ntfs
[07:37] <sauvin> You can mount it automatically the same way your current drives mount, you know.
[07:37] <Dezine> but I don't anymore
[07:37] <Bleed> compiz fusion OWNS if you have the graphics card for it
[07:37] <burner> Dezine, use ext3 :)
[07:37] <Bleed> ext3 all the way
[07:37] <hexstar> sauvin: you can't reliably write to ntfs in *nix tho
[07:38] <Bleed> Windows can read ext3 with support
[07:38] <Bleed> Go with it ;)
[07:38] <sauvin> hexstar, people recently have been telling me that's no longer true.
[07:38] <hexstar> huh
[07:38] <Bleed> :|
[07:38] <sauvin> Windows can do WHAT!?
[07:38] <Dezine> No need for windows support.. got tired of things crapping out so I ditched it
[07:38] <hexstar> lol
[07:38] <burner> windows can write ext3 with fs-driver.org
[07:38] <Bleed> fs-driver.org
[07:38] <Bleed> yea
[07:38] <burner> Dezine, good man :)
[07:38] <burner> Dezine, or woman... whatever :)
[07:38] <Dezine> lol
[07:38] <Dezine> man
[07:38] <hexstar> freebusdriver.com
[07:38] <sauvin> Oh, MAN, that's just WRONG.
[07:39] <umop-apsidn> burner, i'm curious. with my nvidia 6600, should i be running vesa, or nv?
[07:39] <Dezine> either way it works on, xp runs in vmware rather nicely if I must use it
[07:39] <burner> umop-apsidn, neither... nvidia is the binary fast non-free but uber fast one
[07:39] <burner> umop-apsidn, nv is better than vesa... vesa is the basic, only-if-nothing-else-works, driver
[07:39] <Dezine> works out*
[07:39] <hexstar> umop-apsidn: framebuffer
[07:39] <hexstar> :D j/k
[07:39] <burner> !nvidia | umop-apsidn
[07:39] <ubotu> umop-apsidn: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:39] <sauvin> Hey... that reminds me... firefox crashes when i try to download a flash plugin. any ideas?
[07:40] <umop-apsidn> which would the ubuntu installer have hit me with, right off the 7.04 x86 live disk?
[07:40] <burner> sauvin, get flashplugin-nonfree package
[07:40] <dissection> If I install Windows XP in VMware, do I run the risk of getting infected by windows viruses?
[07:40] <sauvin> Burner, that crashed on me to.
[07:40] <burner> sauvin, or ubuntu-restricted-extras is even better still
[07:40] <hexstar> sauvin: try running it in terminal so that errors are made visible when it crashes
[07:40] <somedrew> sauvin, grab it from the repos, or straight from adobe
[07:40] <burner> sauvin, or as somedrew suggests, direct from adobe and put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[07:40] <sauvin> Adobe is what I used in Fedora; it seemed reasonable enough. There's no deb for it?
[07:40] <function1> can anyone confirm: feisty's php5 was not compiled with dbase support?
[07:41] <hexstar> function1: you should be able to with phpinfo()
[07:41] <umop-apsidn> dissection, only to a certain extent. the virtual machine will only have as much access as you allow it. if you have writable shares... then yes, you could become a danger to other windows users on your network
[07:41] <burner> sauvin, flashplugin-nonfree package in apt should do the trick!
[07:41] <sauvin> Burner, I'll try it, but I swear it either crashed or refused to play youtube clips.
[07:41] <function1> hexstar: i dont see dbase... :(((((( just was hoping to be proven wrong
[07:41] <hexstar> oh
[07:42] <burner> sauvin, you're using feisty correct?
[07:42] <sauvin> correct.
[07:42] <burner> sauvin, all should be well :)
[07:42] <sauvin> 24 bit colour depth with hardware acceleration on the ATI Radeon enabled.
[07:42] <asy> how launch fsck.ext3 on boot on sda1
[07:42] <asy> runlevel ?
[07:42] <dissection> umop-apsidn: Is it possible to run Windows XP in VMware without allowing it to use my internet connection so I have only internet access in Linux but not Windows thats running at the same time.
[07:43] <hexstar> asy: make a script that does that in /etc/init.d
[07:43] <umop-apsidn> dissection, yes. you can simply not enable the network adapter for that virtual machine
[07:43] <sauvin> Let me guess: you fear Windows vulnerabilities :D Out of the box, how secure is feisty?
[07:43] <umop-apsidn> dissection, alternatively, you could set up a firewall and a static address for the windows virtual machine, and not allow that static address access through the firewall
[07:44] <asy> hexstar, bash script
[07:44] <jonphilpott> is anyone here running ubuntu on a laptop with a ricoh rl5c475 cardbus bridge?
[07:44] <hexstar> asy: right
[07:44] <umop-apsidn> sauvin, how many virii even run in linux, much less function?
[07:44] <AnAnt> hello, I am download ISO images for ubuntu
[07:44] <umop-apsidn> last i heard, it was *2*
[07:44] <jonphilpott> i have such a bridge in a laptop, but no cards power up on insertion.
[07:44] <asy> i have no script
[07:44] <umop-apsidn> and they only worked in older kernels
[07:44] <AnAnt> how do I check the GPG signature for MD5SUMS.gpg ?
[07:44] <hexstar> !gpg
[07:44] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[07:45] <compengi> does anyone know any application that can draw mathematical functions?
[07:45] <sauvin> umop-apsidn, none that I know of, but I was thinking more in terms of other kinds of attack.
[07:45] <umop-apsidn> sauvin, i don't think there's anything to worry about with a solid firewall between me and the world
[07:45] <hexstar> the firewall could be misconfigured :D
[07:46] <umop-apsidn> of course, if i do something that an unknown someone on an irc channel tells me to, i might have some issues...
[07:46] <sauvin> Nope. Crash.
[07:46] <Dhraakellian> grargh
[07:46] <hexstar> Dhraakellian: ?
[07:46] <Dhraakellian> so I went to edit the sources.list on the liveCD
[07:46] <umop-apsidn> hexstar: most hardware firewalls have a default block-all rule for incoming. not to mention that NAT totally messes things up :)
[07:46] <Dhraakellian> I think my gentoo muscle memory is still there
[07:46] <hexstar> umop-apsidn: true :)
[07:46] <NETWizz> Is Beryl Dead?
[07:47] <Dhraakellian> I had gotten to "sudo vim /etc/portage/package." before I caught myself
[07:47] <zak> compengi: i haven't used any, but i'd imagine quite a few could
[07:47] <NETWizz> I hear Compiz Fusion is the way to go
[07:47] <Dhraakellian> NETWizz: BSD is
[07:47] <Dhraakellian> netcraft confirms it!
[07:47] <burner> compengi, extcalc
[07:47] <AnAnt> hexstar: that doesn't tell about checking the signature of Ubuntu's ISO images
[07:47] <somedrew> NETWizz: Beryl and Compiz have merged into Fusion
[07:47] <AnAnt> hexstar: I just want to know where to get their GPG key
[07:47] <AnAnt> somedrew: when ?
[07:47] <hexstar> AnAnt: oh sorry, don't know
[07:48] <umop-apsidn> hmm, that sucks.
[07:48] <function1> do packages only get added to repos on a new rls?
[07:48] <NETWizz> Does Ubuntu support Fusion?
[07:48] <jayde_drag0n> can anyone assist me with a weird torrent issue... complete newbie.. but former windows user and still a windows sys admin and tech support... so that being said... i am trying to download some shows i watch... my former client of choice was azureus... which i found i could have in ubuntu.. downloaded.. and installed everything going fine.. started screaming in... then poof... 0 on everything.. no speed.. wouldn't connect back up... 
[07:48] <umop-apsidn> i just overwrote my /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:48] <somedrew> AnAnd: recently. In terms of an official release: I think the past month or two?
[07:48] <compengi> burner, it doesn't exist in repos
[07:48] <somedrew> AnAnt: it's been in the works for a while though
[07:48] <AnAnt> somedrew: is that going to hit gutsy ?
[07:48] <hexstar> jayde_drag0n: is the port open on teh firewall?
[07:48] <burner> compengi, bummer.. it's in gutsy
[07:48] <sauvin> Getting the flash player from Adobe means using a .tar.gz. Is this evil?
[07:48] <ubuntuserver> hey
[07:48] <hexstar> umop-apsidn: you have a backup right lol?
[07:48] <somedrew> AnAnt: not sure, I can check quickly to see if it's there
[07:48] <ubuntuserver> mysql error
[07:49] <jayde_drag0n> hexstar: thats what i said.. yes ports are open for customers
[07:49] <lmosher> Someone I know has had trouble installing Ubuntu. He has the following hardware: 1.4 ghz celeron , 256 ram, 32 mb TNT2, 30 gb HD. When he starts up the install (he got the free CD shipped to him), it says something like "there was an error starting the GNOME settings daemon". What should I tell him to do?
[07:49] <umop-apsidn> no, i ran dpkg... whatever that script was, and could find no way to exit out of it
[07:49] <umop-apsidn> so i just wiped out my stuff
[07:49] <hexstar> uh oh lol
[07:49] <mattchewie> Anyone run "uhsare" on ubuntu?
[07:49] <burner> !info extcalc | compengi
[07:49] <ubotu> compengi: Package extcalc does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:49] <burner> bummer
[07:49] <|c4|> can anyone help me with getting new "splash screens" installed?
[07:49] <compengi> =/
[07:49] <sauvin> lmosher, the first problem I see with that kind of machine is that RAM may not be sufficient.
[07:49] <mattchewie> cause I'm trying to instlal it on edy and its eating my soul :D
[07:49] <burner> !splash-screen
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about splash-screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <mattchewie> *install
[07:50] <jayde_drag0n> hexstar: and also of note azurueus connected to over 30 seeds per download... bittornado and bittorrent see less than 4
[07:50] <somedrew> AnAnt: Compiz is still listed, but compiz-fusion-plugins-* is as well...
[07:50] <|c4|> boot screens, what have you.....
[07:50] <umop-apsidn> oh, hey, it automagically made me a backup. convenient.
[07:50] <Nutubuntu> ubuntuserver,  might not be anyone here who's a MySQL guru but there is a #mysql chan, might be a better shot
[07:50] <umop-apsidn> so i'm not dead now :)
[07:50] <lmosher> sauvin: But would that result in an error message like that? I mean sure performance won't be stellar, but people have run gnome boxes with 256 before, I'm sure.
[07:50] <MKKOY> ping
[07:50] <nix> !grub
[07:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:50] <ubuntuserver> DBI:connect failed:Can't connect local Mysql server throught socket /var/run/mysqld.sock (2)
[07:50] <AnAnt> somedrew: ok, thanks
[07:50] <MKKOY> ping me
[07:50] <nix> !grub | nix
[07:50] <ubuntuserver> how to repair this
[07:50] <hexstar> umop-apsidn: glad to hear :)
[07:51] <AnAnt> where can I get the GPG key used for signing ubuntu's ISO image MD5SUMS ?
[07:51] <mattchewie> Or I would accept anyone that happens to be running a Upnp service that will connect to both PS3 and XB360 :D......
[07:51] <hexstar> Imosher: when linux runs out of mem it starts killing oldest processes, it probably killed gnome in this case
[07:51] <ubuntuserver> is there some want know how to repair this ?
[07:51] <ubuntuserver> DBI:connect failed:Can't connect local Mysql server throught socket /var/run/mysqld.sock (2)
[07:51] <varun0> !windows
[07:51] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:51] <jayde_drag0n> AHAHAHAH thats a very funny bot
[07:51] <varun0> heh
[07:52] <hexstar> lol
[07:52] <mattchewie> ineed, very funny
[07:52] <|c4|> does anyone know anything about splash screens?
[07:52] <mattchewie> *indeed
[07:52] <varun0> yea I wanted to see what it would say :-D
[07:52] <mattchewie> !ushare
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ushare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <hexstar> !apple
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <hexstar> !mac
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <mattchewie> !dlna
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dlna - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <lmosher> hexstart: There was another system he tried it on that has a Duron 1.3ghz w/ 384 ram and he got the same error. 384 should be enough... 256 isn't rediculus... if you can't even get the -install- going on that, that's pathetic. Ubuntu isn't a bloat OS.
[07:52] <ubuntuserver> !mysql dbi
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mysql dbi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <hexstar> aw :( :P
[07:52] <jayde_drag0n> awww
[07:52] <sauvin> Oh... the adobe flash plugin isn't something to build... it's a prebuilt...
[07:52] <ubuntuserver> !mysql dbi
[07:52] <varun0> !bill gatesa
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bill gatesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <burner> |c4|, usplash or the gnome splash screen?
[07:52] <varun0> !bill gates
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bill gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <Dezine> !cheese
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <Dezine> lol
[07:52] <ubuntuserver> DBI:connect failed:Can't connect local Mysql server throught socket /var/run/mysqld.sock (2)
[07:52] <Dezine> you're not living then
[07:52] <Dezine> so sad
[07:52] <varun0> !rms
[07:52] <ubotu> rms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
[07:52] <jayde_drag0n> if i say the pr0n word will it boot me?
[07:52] <varun0> !linus
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <hexstar> !linus
[07:52] <burner> varun0, you may msg the bot in private too :P
[07:52] <hexstar> !linus
[07:53] <hexstar> !linus
[07:53] <|c4|> burner- gnome splash screen. i just want to change the regular ubuntu load
[07:53] <hexstar> ????
[07:53] <varun0> burner: oh....my bad :-$ I guess I got carried away
[07:53] <somedrew> sauvin: up, just unpack into the proper directory and you're good to go :)
[07:53] <hexstar> !linus
[07:53] <TaJMoX> @linux
[07:53] <TaJMoX> !botabuse
[07:53] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:53] <ubuntuserver> DBI:connect failed:Can't connect local Mysql server throught socket /var/run/mysqld.sock (2)
[07:53] <AJ--> waaaaa wat happen i follow instructions installing compizfusion then my border are gone
[07:53] <Nutubuntu> ubuntuserver,  could you maybe ask over in #mysql instead of asking here every 30 seconds? just a thought.
[07:53] <AnAnt> where can I get the GPG key used for signing ubuntu's ISO image MD5SUMS ?
[07:53] <ubuntuserver> NUbuntu i can't get acces to mysql
[07:53] <umop-apsidn> |c4|, you can do that in the administration -> login menu
[07:53] <somedrew> AnAnt: I'm looking at the downloads page...but am not seeing it listed
[07:54] <burner> |c4|, there's an app in add/remove to do just that... search for splash screen in add/remove
[07:54] <jayde_drag0n> awww its a virgin bot!!!
[07:54] <hexstar> lol
[07:54] <lmosher> I'll ask again. Friend got the ubuntu CD shipped to his house now he get's an error: "there was an error starting the GNOME settings daemon". He has 384mb ram - that should be enough. Any ideas why the install fails there?
[07:54] <Nutubuntu> Hm.
[07:54] <hexstar> !areyoumarried
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about areyoumarried - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <burner> umop-apsidn, he's talking splash screen, not login screen
[07:54] <|c4|> kk. i just wasnt able to find. thanks
[07:54] <umop-apsidn> my bad
[07:54] <jayde_drag0n> i'm asking the bot naughty questions in IM
[07:54] <hexstar> lol
[07:54] <somedrew> AnAnt: is the md5sum not good enough? (good question though, i've never bothered to check the sig, just the message digest)
[07:54] <burner> |c4|, make sure in the top right it says "all available applications" when you search
[07:54] <ubuntuserver> exit
[07:54] <hexstar> !are you married?
[07:55] <burner> !botabuse | hexstar
[07:55] <ubotu> hexstar: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:55] <AnAnt> somedrew: ok, nevermind
[07:55] <|c4|> burner- i got it. ty
[07:55] <TaJMoX> any ubuntu questions that need to be answered?
[07:55] <sauvin> !!!!!
[07:55] <lmosher> TaJ: yes
[07:55] <lmosher> TaJMox: I'll ask again. Friend got the ubuntu CD shipped to his house now he get's an error: "there was an error starting the GNOME settings daemon". He has 384mb ram - that should be enough. Any ideas why the install fails there?
[07:56] <sauvin> The flash player from the Adobe site is the WAY TO GO.
[07:56] <jayde_drag0n> (10:55:37 PM) jayde_drag0n: do you like sex
[07:56] <jayde_drag0n> (10:55:37 PM) ubotu: (do <channel> <action>) -- Performs <action> in <channel>.
[07:56] <burner> |c4|, np :)
[07:56] <varun0> lmosher: is there any other error message?
[07:56] <hexstar> lol
[07:56] <sport> I had no clue until moments ago that irc was its own protocol.
[07:56] <burner> TaJMoX, run the "check cd for errors" ?
[07:56] <sauvin> wtf is it about Ubuntu that everything runs so damn much FASTER!?
[07:56] <lmosher> varun0: It's a forum post, that's all the information I have to go on :(
[07:56] <TaJMoX> lmosher: there was probably more of an error than just that
[07:57] <TaJMoX> that doesnt seem like a common error ... therer was probably more to it
[07:57] <varun0> lmosher: can you link me the forum post?
[07:57] <jayde_drag0n> hexstar: well anyway can you think of an answer to my downloading issue?
[07:57] <derekson> is there anyone can shoot me a pownce invite?
[07:57] <burner> sport, welcome to 1997, enjoy yourself
[07:57] <ding0k> on a dapper server -- I just installed the gcc package and it can't compile..is this a known issue? Is there something special I have to do?
[07:57] <lmosher> TaJMoX: Ok, I guess I can ask, but is there anything to try? it's an older machine... duron 1.3 w/ 384ram..
[07:57] <hexstar> jayde_drag0n: not sure what is going on sorry
[07:57] <umop-apsidn> burner, try 89 or so
[07:57] <TaJMoX> burner: i remember being on irc back in 1995
[07:57] <burner> TaJMoX, use the alternate install cd to get it installed :)
[07:58] <lmosher> varun0: It's a priv forum, sorry :(. that's all he says though "there was an error starting the GNOME settings daemon" ..
[07:58] <somedrew> ding0k, did you only install gcc? Did make some along with it?  The 'build-essential' metapackage should bring along most things you'd ordinarily need for compilation
[07:58] <ding0k> build-essential, thanks
[07:58] <varun0> lmosher: hm. I'm wondering if he installed (all of) gnome correctly?
[07:58] <umop-apsidn> i can recall using version 5 or 6 of mirc in 92-93... and the first *public* release of that client was 1.9
[07:58] <burner> varun0, it's via livecd
[07:58] <grim> someone able to explain to me how gdm works the first boot, then fails to start every boot after that, then i add the horizsync and vertrefresh it works by hand, i reboot and it does the same old lock up the machine dance?
[07:59] <grim> btw, this is a fresh install of fiesty
[07:59] <lmosher> varun0: He's just trying to get the installer going. He said "I have goten close to being able to get to the install screen, but there was an error message:... " He's not really trying to do anything special as far as I know.
[07:59] <burner> grim, bad drivers?  try using vesa?  is it nvidia? try nv drivers?  ati? try ati drivers?
[07:59] <somedrew> grim: when you change the sync and refresh values....to they remain on reboot?
[07:59] <ding0k> somedrew: wow, it's broken?
[07:59] <lmosher> varun0: I think the issue is his machine cannot boot the liveCD
[07:59] <grim> burner: it's been ati the entire time
[07:59] <grim> also, if i run x with 'X' it comes up fine
[07:59] <Nutubuntu> lmosher,  why not try the alternate cd, or the minimal?
[07:59] <somedrew> ding0k, is it letting you know what the conflict is?
[08:00] <varun0> burner: I'm confused. When does he get the message? When trying to run the LiveCD? While installing? AFter installing?
[08:00] <grim> somedrew: considering i edited xorg.conf... i'd say yes
[08:00] <sauvin> What kind of ATI?
[08:00] <burner> lmosher, or start with xubuntu and get ubuntu-desktop metapackage after xubuntu is up and running :)
[08:00] <grim> all in wonder something or other...
[08:00] <ding0k> somedrew: libc-dev, g++
[08:00] <lmosher> Nutubuntu: He can't download, so he ordered the CD on ubuntu.com, that's all he's got
[08:00] <grim> the driver isn't the problem, if it was X wouldn't come up at all and i'd get an error about no screens found
[08:00] <lmosher> varrun0: As far as I know he got the message when booting the liceCD.
[08:00] <burner> grim, you can always try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and change things till it works
[08:00] <somedrew> ding0k, did you install those from the official repos?
[08:00] <varun0> lmosher: hm
[08:00] <hexstar> lol licecd
[08:01] <burner> grim, oh, that's what I assumed you got ;)
[08:01] <grim> burner: that's what i've been doing, i'm not afraid of config files :P
[08:01] <ding0k> somedrew: I don't have any nonofficial repos in my sources.list
[08:01] <varun0> is he thrown to a CLI?
[08:01] <burner> grim, so what's the gdm issue?  are your resolutions ordered from highest to lowest?
[08:01] <lmosher> varun0: But he hasn't posted the details, I think for now I"ll just ask him for calrification... Maybe he got it booted and it failed during install, but I have a feeling it's failing during the livecd boot.
[08:01] <lmosher> Varrun0: CLI?
[08:01] <spehrm> can anyone shoot me a pownce invite please?
[08:02] <varun0> lmosher: sorry. Command Line Interface. The command prompt
[08:02] <hexstar> ewww sperm
[08:02] <spehrm> heh
[08:02] <hexstar> lol
[08:02] <grim> burner: it hard locks the machine.  i grabbed the rates from an xorg log, and then ran gdm by hand and it came up fine, i then rebooted into normal mode (was in recovery) and it hardlocked again
[08:02] <lmosher> varun0: No idea, but I would imagine so since he got that text error... that's usually how it works.
[08:02] <umop-apsidn> what's a pownce invite?
[08:02] <spehrm> Pownce is a program, invite only.
[08:02] <somedrew> ding0k, argh. There really shouldn't be a conflict: many people will have gcc and g++ installed together. What about uninstalling those, installing build-essential, refreshing your package list, and trying to reinstall libc-dev and g++ after that (or just upgrade/downgrade libc-dev & g++ as required)?
[08:03] <spehrm> Instant messaging, like twitter.
[08:03] <umop-apsidn> spehrm, would you care to elaborate?
[08:03] <burner> grim, wow, got me
[08:03] <umop-apsidn> ah, thanks
[08:03] <varun0> lmosher: what if he types startx?
[08:03] <spehrm> I need an invite to Pownce...
[08:03] <lmosher> varrun0: Again, no idea. I don't really know the guy this is actually a game forum and he just ordered the CD, got that error and posted to complain that Linux isn't easy :)
[08:03] <hexstar> !pownce invite
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pownce invite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <varun0> lmosher: LOL. Well it's a little difficult to help second hand :-)
[08:04] <lmosher> varun0: I appreciate your help, but I can see that I really just need more info before I can do something. If it's not a common error I'll see if I can't get him to give me all the details. Thanks! :)
[08:04] <sauvin> yupyupyup, the flash plugin from the Adobe site rules.
[08:04] <varun0> lmosher: no problem. sorry I couldn't be of more help
[08:05] <Helmi> hi guys
[08:05] <burner> sauvin, got the new beta that use gtk dialogs and rightclick menus?
[08:05] <hexstar> hi
[08:05] <grim> even better, i have usable ranges in my xorg log, and i don't get crap...
[08:05] <ding0k> somedrew: nope...
[08:05] <ding0k> somedrew: I uninstalled everything -- build essential still won't install
[08:05] <sauvin> dunno about "beta", but it does have right-click menus.
[08:05] <NETWizz> I hear you guys are working on Tribe
[08:05] <Helmi> i just installed kubuntu gutsy and i'm wondering how to get compiz-fusion to running - i'm using a Nvidia Geforce 6200 - can anyone help with this?
[08:05] <NETWizz> the code nmae for Gusty Gibson?
[08:05] <hexstar> Tribe?
[08:05] <hexstar> !Tribe
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <somedrew> ding0k, is it letting you know what the problem is, or which packages conflict with it?
[08:05] <umop-apsidn> Helmi, try joining #compiz-fusion
[08:05] <burner> sauvin, gtk right click?  or weird, doesn't-look-like-other-right-click, menus?
[08:05] <Helmi> umop-apsidn: thanks
[08:06] <umop-apsidn> Helmi, np
[08:06] <ding0k> somedrew: libc6-dev, which depends g++.
[08:06] <sauvin> they look like Motif right-click menus, sorta kinda.
[08:06] <burner> NETWizz, tribe 3 is out... #ubuntu+1
[08:06] <somedrew> ding0k, does build-essential want a newer or older version of libc6-dev (mehates any libc problems...)
[08:06] <mrhavi> anyone know the best way to remote desktop in to ubuntu with vista?
[08:07] <burner> mrhavi, i like nomachine.com software
[08:07] <sauvin> Erm... VNC?
[08:07] <hexstar> haha I remember when I compiled and installed libc from source...completely hosed the system
[08:07] <burner> mrhavi, or vnc as sauvin suggests, but vnc isn't encrypted
[08:08] <hexstar> mrhavi: ssh
[08:08] <NETWizz> what is Ubuntu +1
[08:08] <NETWizz> What does that mean
[08:08] <ding0k> somedrew: libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4) but 2.4-1ubuntu12 is to be installed
[08:08] <hexstar> it means the value of ubuntu +1
[08:08] <sauvin> My girlfriend used vnc from her Mac to learn a bit of AutoCAD from my Windows machine (when I still had one)...
[08:08] <mrhavi> hummm it seams we have diff opinions
[08:08] <hexstar> ssh is good
[08:09] <mrhavi> good as in..
[08:09] <burner> ssh is good in that it's encrypted, but no gui makes it not as cool as nomachine.com
[08:09] <sauvin> that's because we have different experiences and different ways of looking at things. What's wrong with trying them all and deciding for yourself what's good?
[08:09] <mrhavi> because i have 30 min
[08:09] <NETWizz> Okay
[08:09] <NETWizz> When does the next LTS come out?
[08:09] <sauvin> 30 minutes before somebody turns into a pumpkin?
[08:10] <hexstar> NETWizz: lts?
[08:10] <mrhavi> soo ssh?
[08:10] <mrhavi> if i am good in commands
[08:10] <hexstar> mrhavi: if you don't need gui use ssh, else if you need gui use vnc
[08:10] <sauvin> ssh won't give you a GUI. It's all text.
[08:10] <grim> ubuntu - 1
[08:10] <Leb2> :)
[08:10] <somedrew> ding0k, I'm checking now to see what can be done. Are you familiar with aptitude at all? It's a front-end to apt and has the _best_ resolver around IMHO. If you do a 'sudo aptitude install build-essential', it should inform you of what can be done to resolve the conflict
[08:10] <grim> that's all i have to say right now..
[08:10] <grim> actually should be - 999
[08:10] <hexstar> lol
[08:10] <mrhavi> thankyou
[08:10] <ding0k> somedrew: I'll give it a shot
[08:10] <mrhavi> all
[08:10] <grim> i just had gdm running correctly from recovery mode, i rebooted and it hardlocks the machine...
[08:11] <hexstar> what does lts stand for?
[08:11] <hexstar> !lts
[08:11] <ding0k> somedrew: oh!
[08:11] <hexstar> !lts
[08:11] <umop-apsidn> somedrew, what is your opinion of synaptic, then?
[08:11] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[08:11] <Nutubuntu> hexstar,  longterm support version
[08:11] <hexstar> oh
[08:11] <varun0> does anyone know of a newsreader that supports downloading from multiple servers? or multiple downloads from the same server?
[08:11] <hexstar> the bot is ignoring me now... :P
[08:11] <Typwn> Hello all.
[08:11] <sauvin> varun0, I think I used pan for that.
[08:12] <varun0> sauvin: do you know where the option for multiple servers or downloads is? I couldn't find it :-\
[08:12] <ding0k> somedrew: mod_python is broken in dapper, I had to install off the edgy repo...and that must have upgraded this other stuff...because now aptitude wants to downgrade.... I can't get rid of mod_python, that's essential... so I guess I'm between a rock and a hard place -- mod_python or a C compiler, which will it be? hehe.
[08:12] <Nutubuntu> jealous probably... did you use an exclamation point while you were flirtin^H^H^H^H^H^H talking with someone else?
[08:12] <hexstar> lol
[08:12] <sauvin> No, I don't. It's been a long time since I've been involved with the NGs.
[08:13] <ding0k> somedrew: I have to say, for all the "ease" people talk about associating ubuntu I've had some serious problems.
[08:13] <varun0> sauvin: word. thanks anyways!
[08:13] <ding0k> somedrew: mod_python and the C compiler aren't exactly "out there" = /
[08:13] <somedrew> umop-apsidn, synaptic's not my cup of tea only because aptitude's 1) resolver and 2)wild-card matches.
[08:13] <grim> hahahhahahhahahahah it's the freaking splash screen...
[08:13] <grim> so yeah ...
[08:13] <grim> ubuntu - 1000000000
[08:13] <hexstar> lol
[08:13] <umop-apsidn> somedrew, i don't understand what you mean by resolver, but as for the matching, i have no issues with the search button in synaptic
[08:14] <slacker> gday
[08:14] <hexstar> what does apt resolve?
[08:14] <sauvin> umop-apsidn, having regex capability is a powerful thing for searches :)
[08:14] <slacker> I'm having problems rebooting. it just won't do it
[08:14] <ding0k> umop-apsidn: he means resolving dependency problems, not searching for packages.
[08:14] <somedrew> ding0k, re: mod_python: yeah. That's the issue. mod_python is definately not out there. The problem is mixing repos from different versions. My suggestion would be to install mod_python from upstream and to not get it from the Edgy repos. Is it available in backports at all?
[08:14] <umop-apsidn> sauvin, sorry, that's above my head
[08:15] <hexstar> slacker: what do you mean? like the gui never quits or does it just never power off but you do exit out of the gui?
[08:15] <umop-apsidn> ding0k, uhm... it seems to grab all the dependencies for me?
[08:15] <sauvin> oh, man, you really need to discover the POWER of the Dark Side... learn some perl! Or, if not that, how about some sed?
[08:15] <ding0k> umop-apsidn: well, read my above conversation with somedrew for an example of when apt didn't and aptitude did.
[08:15] <grim> sauvin: last i checked perl could do everything sed can and then some
[08:15] <hexstar> you can use perl to search for packages with apt?
[08:15] <slacker> hexstar: I type 'reboot' or 'shutdown -r now' and it comes up with the broadcast message that it's shutting down but it doesn't do it
[08:15] <ding0k> somedrew: agh, I'm scared to ditch my version that works, hehe.
[08:15] <umop-apsidn> ding0k, this channel is too big to be scrolling, but i'll shut up anyways ;)
[08:16] <grim> it's is the freaking splash screen... what in the hell..
[08:16] <somedrew> ding0k, Ubuntu does have some nice ease, but perhaps a 'rolling release' may be better suited for your purposes (keeping up-to-date software), if it's only an issue with mod_python...that's a pain
[08:16] <grim> bootsplash or whatever ubuntu is using is a piece of trash
[08:16] <sauvin> Sed is just a stream editor. Perl is almost a whole damn operating system.
[08:16] <hexstar> slacker: hmm...that's weird, how old is your pc? Have you ever flashed your bios?
[08:16] <xcess> Hey, when I try to delete file from my desktop in Ubuntu, it says "Error file not found", it has been doing this since past 5 days only? Any solutions??
[08:16] <slacker> hexstar: might be important to know that I just downgraded from feisty to edgy (I know, one isn't supposed to do that)
[08:16] <somedrew> ding0k, you could always file a bug about mod_python. sorry about the issue
[08:16] <ding0k> somedrew: well, I've moved entirely to opensuse on my desktop and laptop -- quite a pleasure to use. I filed a bug 8 months ago, and it got deleted.
[08:16] <slacker> hexstar: pc is a few weeks old
[08:16] <tehtechman> Im a gentoo user and just installed ubuntu on my sis-in-laws comp...  what packages do i need to install to make totem play all the formats that it can?  is there one meta package or a bunch or lil ones?
[08:16] <grim> huh, scripting language as an os... novel idea, but the concept falls apart at the first step of implementation
[08:17] <tehtechman> never used totem b4
[08:17] <theblue> grim: seems kind of tenuous to me.
[08:17] <sauvin> I said "almost". With packages like POE installed, for example, it gets to be stupid simple EASY to write a server.
[08:17] <hexstar> slacker: I'm not sure, never encountered that issue. I can only assume that the downgrade broke something critical, you might try doing ctrl+fx when doing the reboot seqeunce to see if any behind the scenes errors are logged
[08:17] <ding0k> somedrew: I thought that when I migrated my server farm from debian to ubuntu I'd get a more polished experience :)
[08:17] <theblue> grim: well, with the current state of computing, anyway.
[08:18] <theblue> grim: recall that many home computers of the 80s used a BASIC interpreter as their 'OS'
[08:18] <hexstar> O_O
[08:18] <somedrew> ding0k, argh...really? Sucky. libc version issues are always a major headache. What you may have to do is to install your own versions of either gcc or mod_python. But I definately agree that the conflict should not be present in a realase version that's frozen for so long
[08:18] <slacker> hexstar: the problem is I can't just switch it off. it's not in reaching distance :/
[08:18] <sauvin> theblue, almost. The OS was resident in ROM, and the BASIC interpreter was the primary (or even only) interface with it.
[08:18] <grim> theblue: no... they had these things called boot loaders... and command interperters that were not written in their respective languages
[08:18] <hexstar> theblue: so you HAD to program to get it to do anything?
[08:18] <hexstar> slacker: oh...
[08:18] <tehtechman> anyone what what packages I need to install to make totem usable?
[08:19] <ding0k> somedrew: It's LTS for god sakes. I'm not supposed to be concerned with this.
[08:19] <theblue> sauvin, grim: ah, right, it's been a while since i used those.
[08:19] <theblue> hexstar: usually there was also commercial software on cartridges, casettes, or disks.
[08:19] <hexstar> slacker: well it'd probably be best to be in reaching distance when troubleshooting this, else get a remote rebootable power strip
[08:19] <somedrew> ding0k, it's kinda funnny though because Ubuntu will sync up with Debians packages for a release. Re: LTS: agree completely. Was there no indication of why the bug was dismissed? Have you come across anyone else documenting this issue at all?
[08:19] <sauvin> I used to love to hack those computers :>
[08:20] <dedi> i have a really high cpu ussage on my xorg (80-90%), only one screen and tried diffrent drivers. what could cause that?
[08:20] <hexstar> dedi: adware
[08:20] <grim> i still love how ubuntu is supposed to be easier to configure than debian, and i'm doing more work trying to get this install working than all the work i put into any debian machine to get it fully functional
[08:20] <slacker> hexstar: well it's not *that* far away but I thought I try here before I head off
[08:20] <hexstar> slacker: ah, well the only real way as I see it to try and troubleshoot is to actively check the logs for errors as it shuts down
[08:21] <theblue> hexstar: but i remember when you could buy software in books, and you'd manually type in hundreds of lines of BASIC.
[08:21] <ding0k> somedrew: it's only a bug with a particular part of mod_python -- If you're using PSP (python server pages) and you reference the "session" global (which is a dictionary that is stored in the client's browser cookies -- it's a transparent sessions implementation) then the whole thing craps out. It's not like all of mod_python is broken, it's just a bug in that version.
[08:21] <hexstar> theblue: wow!
[08:21] <tehtechman> grim: i know... I really should have went with debian for my sisinlaw instead of ubuntu
[08:21] <ding0k> somedrew: I'm pretty sure the package maintainers didn't really know what i was talking about...
[08:21] <ding0k> somedrew: so they did the easiest thing and deleted it
[08:21] <ding0k> somedrew: twice.
[08:21] <dedi> hexstar: dont think i have that, its a new installation
[08:21] <sauvin> theblue, how do you think I learned to type? It wasn't in school, that's a fact! :D
[08:21] <grim> tehtechman: this is for my mom, and what's worse is, her wireless card is "supported" in ndis, but is causing soft locks...
[08:22] <Nutubuntu> Gnight all
[08:22] <theblue> sauvin: i know, i learned to type before i could read, which i learned of my IBM 8088 clone.
[08:22] <hexstar> sauvin: haha!
[08:22] <ding0k> somedrew: unfortunately the session global is one of the most neat features of PSP, and I use it pretty frequently.
[08:22] <theblue> at the age of either 2 or 3.
[08:22] <mycelph> Hey how do you get two screens working i ubuntu
[08:22] <tehtechman> grim: oh man... im not good as wifi.  U know what i need to apt-get to make totel usable?
[08:22] <theblue> no one can say the 8088 never helped anyone.
[08:22] <grim> mycelph: the same way you do in any distro :P
[08:22] <slacker> hexstar: maybe I'm lucky enough and it won't even boot up after reset. that'll make live easier ;)
[08:23] <hexstar> slacker: lol
[08:23] <mycelph> Well wheres the settings for it then????
[08:23] <sauvin> The 6502 taught me about 90% of everything I know about computers at the hardware level :)
[08:23] <grim> tehtechman: it's apt... but you were saying...
[08:23] <hexstar> theblue: learned to type at 2? wow!
[08:23] <somedrew> ding0k, frustrating. Well I guess you could try to install your own package of it in parallel with the already installed one, see if it works, and switch over then...or find a distro that can suit your needs (Ubuntu shoud..it's a shame that it doesn't in this case). I'm not familiar at all with session global, but if it's important for you then you shouldn't need to compromise between it and a damn compiler
[08:23] <hexstar> !info totel
[08:23] <ubotu> Package totel does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:23] <theblue> hexstar: well, it was hunt-and-peck for about 6 years.
[08:23] <hexstar> ah
[08:23] <hexstar> I still do that now :P
[08:24] <ding0k> somedrew: as for your comment about backports..where would you suggest I go looking?
[08:24] <theblue> comes easier to some people than others.
[08:24] <tehtechman> grim: srry my spelling is slipping.  You know what packs I need to make Totem usable.  It seems like it cant play anything.
[08:24] <hexstar> !backports | ding0k
[08:24] <ubotu> ding0k: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[08:24] <slacker> alright. off to the den of evil
[08:24] <grim> tehtechman: try another part of apt, apt-cache search totem
[08:24] <ding0k> somedrew: edgy or dapper's backports
[08:25] <hexstar> !info totem
[08:25] <somedrew> ding0k, http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-backports/ (there's also a repo for it, backports is an official repository)
[08:25] <somedrew> ding0k, dapper's backports
[08:25] <ubotu> totem: A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package). In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[08:25] <mrhavi> does anyone of the remote desktop clients login to the standard remote software that comes with ubuntu?
[08:25] <somedrew> ding0k, not edgy's because there's that libc upgrade and dapper's on the old version
[08:26] <hexstar> mrhavi: vnc
[08:26] <ding0k> somedrew: well, then no, it's not in dapper's backports
[08:26] <tehtechman> welp... no info here i guess.  I'll have to ask the almighty google for about 30 minutes
[08:26] <somedrew> ding0k, you can request it (on launchpad)
[08:26] <hexstar> !launchpad
[08:26] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[08:26] <sauvin> I was never able to use totem, either, but that's not a big deal because mplayer and xine can play damn near anything.
[08:27] <mrhavi> thanks hex
[08:27] <ding0k> ..hexstar you're so helpful it's almost annoying. ;)
[08:27] <obf213> does anyone know how to change meta data on mp3 files.
[08:27] <sauvin> Totem-XINE!?
[08:27] <grim> obf213: easytag
[08:27] <hexstar> ding0k: lol
[08:27] <somedrew> saucisson, oh yeah! It's available and does away with gstreamer
[08:28] <ding0k> somedrew: Does dist-upgrade actually work? What if I just pitched the whole thing to edgy
[08:28] <the_padawan> how can i blacklist a module?
[08:28] <hexstar> gonna go, later
[08:28] <somedrew> ding0k, in my personal experience: If you don't have many custom packages it's really nice
[08:28] <chovy> how come when I boot into KDE i get a nice screen, but after I login it goes to hell?
[08:28] <grim> alright, debian is going on here tomorrow, i need sleep and i'm getting the same lame errors after removing splash from the default kernel options and running update-grub
[08:28] <ding0k> somedrew: always a caveat...what is a "custom package"
[08:28] <chovy> toow ide
[08:29] <sauvin> Chovy, what do you mean by "goes to hell"?
[08:29] <chovy> its too wide...like trying to run as 4:3 instead of 16:9 (but only after I enter username/password.
[08:29] <somedrew> ding0k, lol...yeah, with everything. Custom as in a self-compiled or self-installed package not from Ubuntu's official repos. They may not necessarily cause an issue, but there is some potential (i'm overstating this a bit, but don't want to give you any false dilusions)
[08:29] <chovy> the initial KDE prompt looks great
[08:30] <ding0k> somedrew: all my packages are from the official.
[08:30] <chovy> and now when I go itno Monitor & Display, it gives error
[08:30] <somedrew> ding0k, if you install all of your custom packages into /usr/local/ everything will be fine (apt won't touch that directory)
[08:30] <infbliss> hi all is it possible to have decent fonts in ubuntu
[08:30] <somedrew> ding0k, then dist-upgrade can be your best friend! Say hello to updated apps and kernel
[08:30] <ding0k> somedrew: the problem is that I'm two timezones away from this machine right now, so I don't want to screw anything up. lol.
[08:30] <chovy> "orphaned control module"
[08:30] <onur> hello, does anyone know a resolution for the API mismatch problem while installing the newest NVidia binary drivers ?
[08:31] <somedrew> ding0k, I feel that.
[08:31] <ding0k> somedrew: so what's the procedure? Just replace "dapper" with "edgy" in my sources.list?
[08:31] <sauvin> You're certain apt won't touch /usr/local?
[08:31] <jeamie> join #debian-zh
[08:31] <AJ--> anyone knows how can i enable compiz fusion at startup???
[08:31] <jeamie> #join debian-zh
[08:32] <jeamie> quit
[08:32] <onur> AJ--: how do you enable manually ?
[08:32] <jeamie> #quit
[08:32] <somedrew> sauvin, apt should not mess with /usr/local at all (it's designed that way so you can install your own apps there without worrying about conflicts)
[08:32] <theblue> jeamie: /join #debian-zh
[08:32] <sauvin> Somedrew, that's precisely what I wanted to hear and never knew.
[08:32] <somedrew> sauvin, glad to help!
[08:32] <AJ--> onur: compiz --replace  <--- this
[08:32] <radioaktivstorm> hello, where can i obtain the python-daap package?
[08:33] <onur> AJ--: put that line to the session startup programs from preferences menu then
[08:33] <tehtechman> Apparently to make Totem actually usable after the default install... you have to apt-get a bunch of gstreamer0.10 packages.
[08:33] <somedrew> ding0k, yup. That and do a couple rounds dist-upgrade & upgrade just to make sure everything is pulled in.
[08:33] <sauvin> Tehtechman, something similar is true of mplayer - you need to download a PILE of codecs.
[08:33] <onur> AJ--: that's how you ensure any program starts with your login. But if you want to make the program starting globally
[08:34] <AJ--> y is it that my borders are gone?
[08:34] <onur>  AJ-- I mean for all users, that's another story
[08:34] <somedrew> ding0k, if I remember correctly, edgy started to replace the init system with startup, so you'll definately need to do 2 dist-upgrades (one for everything but upstart, the second for upstart)
[08:34] <onur> AJ--: reload compiz
[08:34] <grim> oh look another ubuntu - 10000, i can't update-alternatives vi to vim...
[08:34] <grim> lame
[08:34] <onur> hello, does anyone know a resolution for the API mismatch problem while installing the newest NVidia binary drivers ?
[08:34] <tehtechman> sauvin: never had that prob under debian or gentoo with mplayer.  i think ubuntu an totem are conspiring to piss me off
[08:35] <somedrew> grim, isn't vi just a symlink to vim anyways?
[08:35] <sauvin> dunno about "conspiring" - I had to download some "special" junk to play my commercial DVD movies.
[08:35] <grim> somedrew: it's looking like it.. i assumed ubuntu would have installed full vim... how dumb of me..
[08:35] <ding0k> somedrew: even in server?
[08:35] <tehtechman> oh well... live and learn i guess.
[08:36] <somedrew> ding0k, yup: upstart is Ubuntu's own new{ish} init system and it will be grabed the second time just to help avoid upgrade issues
[08:36] <AJ--> onur: its still same.. i dont have borders..
[08:36] <wubinoobi> guys... i'm about 80 percent done with a wubi ubuntu install; does anyone have any comments about ubuntu installed the wubi way? tips, suggestions, etc...?
[08:37] <somedrew> grim, should be the full version (not sure if it's 7.2 though...oh so nice and an easy compile)
[08:37] <onur> AJ--: that's a historical problem. what can I say, search the forums then
[08:37] <ding0k> somedrew: That sounds vaguely familiar -- great..another new thing I have to learn.
[08:37] <panfist> hi, im running a fresh install of feisty and everything seems to be working fine, but i can't / dont know how to see shared folders over the network, hosted on win xp machines
[08:37] <grim> somedrew: it's vim.tiny with a stock install
[08:37] <onur> panfist: you have to configure  your samba from /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:38] <onur> panfist: default permissions does not allow it, search the forums for details please
[08:38] <somedrew> grim: just looked and there is a 'vim-full' package available
[08:38] <RoboBlaster> I did a bad thing.  I installed Ubuntu on my external HD and didn't realize my BIOS doesn't allow booting from a USB drive and now I get an error 21 and can't boot Windows nor Ubuntu.
[08:38] <ding0k> somedrew: so if this doesn't work and I'm one less server, where do you live so I can come cut your head off? :)
[08:38] <wubinoobi> don't really understand if wubi installs parallel or if ubuntu is 'inside' windows?
[08:38] <grim> somedrew: yeah, like i said, "how dumb of me to assume it'd be installed by default..."
[08:38] <dissection> In Linux, when you type a url into the browser, is the DNS automatically cached, or that something I need to setup manually?
[08:38] <grim> that implies that it exists..
[08:39] <onur> dissection: that's a browser specific question I guess
[08:39] <sauvin> wtf is "wubi", anyway?
[08:39] <onur> dissection: also regardless of your browser, your ISP is prolly caching it
[08:39] <RoboBlaster> what can I do, if anything?
[08:39] <somedrew> ding0k, Currently: an Island in the south pacific :) Hey! I never told you to upgrade to Edgy. But to help sooth you...the only time a dist-upgrade has failed for me  (once out of ~30) was because of a crappy laptop dsdt issue with the kernel
[08:39] <panfist> i have already installed/configured samba according to http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Samba_Server_for_files.2Ffolders_sharing_service , i have added a network user, and when i try to mount the drive, or connect it still says permission denied
[08:39] <dissection> onur: I remember in Windows there is a hosts file that contains the url and the IP it points to.. Was wondering if there's something like that in Linux too
[08:40] <dissection> onur: My ISP is horrible. My IP does not even resolve :[
[08:40] <wubinoobi> wubi is an ubuntu installer .exe file at sourceforge
[08:40] <grim> dissection: /etc/hosts
[08:40] <onur> panfist: dunno, but it is sure you are missing something on the conf file. Also have you restarted samba after editing the file ?
[08:40] <somedrew> grim, K, sorry: it's only a single disc though...not much room to put everything on it.
[08:40] <dissection> grim: thanks :)
[08:40] <wubinoobi> i was hoping to find others who might have installed this way here
[08:41] <onur> dissection: yes there is, errr something like resolv.conf or similar stuff in /etc/ can't remember though
[08:41] <dissection> onur: Okay I'll look it up.
[08:42] <grim> yay, this is completely unusable for my use case... if i logout to go back to gdm, i get my good old friend the out of range error
[08:42] <somedrew> wubinoobi, I don't know much at all about wubi...but what I do know is that it mounts a loopback Ubuntu within windows
[08:43] <panfist> onur, yes, i did restart the samba daemon. hold on, i will try to get at a network drive again so i can get the output...
[08:43] <somedrew> wubinoobi: wubi has a forum @ ubuntuforums.org if you want more information
[08:45] <sauvin> hee hee... according to http://wubi-installer.org, Wubi is "discrete".
[08:45] <tupa> Hey, I updated the hardware clock and now I get this error: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul 21 06:43:07 2007
[08:45] <ding0k> somedrew: here goes...
[08:45] <tupa> how can I fix that problem?
[08:45] <somedrew> ding0k, good luck!
[08:46] <tupa> sudo touch doesn't work :(
[08:46] <somedrew> tupa: sudo -k
[08:46] <somedrew> tupa, that should erase the timestamp
[08:46] <tupa> ok, thank you :)
[08:46] <somedrew> tupa, did it work?
[08:47] <tupa> mmmm
[08:47] <tupa> nope
[08:47] <panfist> I just tried doing "sudo mount //networkcomp/afolder /media/sharename/ -o username=netcompuser,password=mypass" and the response was, "cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it. 5189: protocol negotiation failed. SMB connection failed."
[08:47] <somedrew> tupa, ok what about 'sudo -K'
[08:48] <ding0k> somedrew: btw, you made some reference to aptitude being the best at resolving -- have you tried smart? I use it in opensuse and it seriously the sweetest thing I've ever had the pleasure of using.
[08:48] <tupa> no somedrew, sudo -k is the timestamp stuff, but it didn't work, neither sudo -K
[08:48] <tupa> I checked the man
[08:48] <wubinoobi> somedrew: kool, i went out for a smoke. thanks for the info
[08:48] <tupa> -k invalidates the timestamp
[08:48] <tupa> supposedly
[08:48] <somedrew> ding0k, nope never tried smart :( Heard of it, but haven't played around. Hasn't smart adoption slowed down recently?
[08:48] <somedrew> wubinoobi, np
[08:48] <Dezine> Can anyone tell me where the gaim plugins folder is located?
[08:48] <eps> I'm after an application to edit video media under linux?
[08:49] <eps> Dezine, probably ~/.gaim/plugins
[08:49] <buntunub> !kino
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <ding0k> somedrew: In what community? In the suse community it was a reaction to yast/zmd sucking. They're replacing that with an opensuse-only / non-novel tool that isn't as good. None of it is as good as smart, though.
[08:49] <buntunub> !cinelarra
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cinelarra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <metalac> hey guys
[08:50] <metalac> i can't for the life of me connect to my network trying 3 different wired cards
[08:50] <metalac> and i know one of them is 100% supported by tulip driver
[08:50] <metalac> i see the cards in the network manager and all
[08:50] <somedrew> tupa, argh... -K should kill the timstamp completely and not require a password. Have you tried a reboot? I've heard of that issue before, I'm checking now
[08:50] <eps> thanks buntunub
[08:50] <tupa> hah
[08:50] <metalac> it seemed that ipv6 was the culprit but now i disabled it and it's still the same
[08:50] <metalac> tried both dhcp and static
[08:50] <metalac> any clues?
[08:50] <tupa> weird
[08:50] <buntunub> !networking
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <tupa> the first time sudo -K didn't work, I have it in history
[08:51] <tupa> with capital K
[08:51] <somedrew> ding0k, mostly just general adoption. It looks really promising though
[08:51] <tupa> thanks somedrew
[08:51] <ding0k> somedrew: smart is good because its interface replaces pretty much everything else you already use. You can use it to install rpms directly, or remotely via http, or remotely via a repo of several different types.
[08:51] <flaccid> any #kubuntu ops here?
[08:51] <buntunub> metalac check out the networking wiki's at ubuntu.org
[08:52] <ding0k> somedrew:I'm not exactly an active community member, so I can't speak to its adoption. I don't hang around in IRC channels unless I'm having problems. :)
[08:52] <metalac>  buntunub: will give it a try
[08:52] <buntunub> should do the trick lotta good stuff there
[08:52] <jube> I've noticed sbackup excludes /proc /tmp /dev /var/cache /var/tmp and /sys........... Are these directories not needed when restoring a full system backup???
[08:52] <somedrew> tupa, the bottom post on this page looks like it should do it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173505
[08:53] <tupa> somedrew: fixed
[08:53] <somedrew> ding0k, sounds good. Is there an easy way with smart (or some 3rd party app) to make your own rmps easily?
[08:54] <tupa> I thought I ran sudo -K, it's even in bash history, maybe I forgot to type enter before reading the man
[08:54] <somedrew> tupa, nice! Yeah, -K should have done it...I was wondering what was going on
[08:55] <somedrew> ding0k, brain fart...I guess checkinstall would do the trick
[08:55] <dissection> I tried to make a .zip file of my download folder of around 5GB but it said core dumped, limit exceeded..What else can I use for compresing them (windows friendly archive)?
[08:56] <ding0k> somedrew: I'm not sure, to be honest. I think that is out of scope.
[08:56] <zerokill88> God after hours of searching and searching,and no luck of anyhting working, does anyone know how to set up a cell phone as a modem? do i need to install drivers for Ubuntu to detect a cell phone???
[08:57] <Simkin> zerokill88: serial or usb ?
[08:57] <Simkin> or perhaps bluetooth?
[08:58] <zerokill88> Simkin im connected through a cable using usb
[08:58] <ding0k> somedrew: I think it just provides package manager functions. What I usually do is keep the 3rd party repos configured with smart, and keep the opensuse/yast stuff configured for the suse DVD -- so I can install base stuff easily from one place, but upgrade new stuff from another. It all just kind of seamlessly works. If I download an rpm I can install it with yast or with smart and they both just figure out what's going on..smart is just
[08:58] <ding0k> way better about resolving dependencies...I also like that if you search for a package it'll make suggestions "we couldn't find that...but what about these?"
[08:58] <Kawika> dissection, have you tried 7-zip.org?
[08:58] <somedrew> dissection, what filesystem are you using? ext3 has a 4GB file-size limit AFAIK. bzip2 may cut it down to under 4...not sure if any windows apps supports it though (7-zip may). Easiest way would be to just split it up
[08:58] <Simkin> zerokill88: ok, that cable is probably (99% sure) a usb to serial converter.
[08:58] <zerokill88> Simkin i can connect to it with moto4lin and see all the files on my phone, but ive been trying to use wvdial to use my phone as a modem but it wont workd
[08:59] <Simkin> zerokill88: you should be able to just connect up as a serial port and dial out.
[08:59] <zerokill88> Simkin what do you mean?
[08:59] <zerokill88> Simkin how?
[08:59] <sauvin> Is midnight commander available for ubuntu? I'm not seeing it in the "Add/Remove Applications" thingie...
[08:59] <Lo_Pan> apt-get install mc
[09:00] <zerokill88> Simkin should ubuntu automatically detect my phone when connected? and if its not, are you tring to say its because of the serial converted cable?
[09:00] <dissection> Kawika: I don't see a link to the linux version of 7-zip on that site.
[09:00] <Lo_Pan> dunno which repo it's in
[09:00] <burner> !info 7zip | dissection
[09:00] <disinterested> hhey, would a 52" tv work as a monitor off the s-video jack from my video card?
[09:00] <ubotu> dissection: Package 7zip does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:00] <dissection> somedrew: I was trying it in ext3. The reason I was trying to zip was because when I extract them using File Reader in Windows, the directory structure is lost and all files will be in the same folder.
[09:00] <somedrew> sauvin, yup it does (maybe not in add-remove, but it's in the repos)
[09:00] <burner> dissection: applications -> add/remove change to all available applications in top right and you'll find 7zip
[09:00] <Simkin> zerokill88: what port is your phone on when you connect it?
[09:01] <Kawika> dissection, click on download (on the left) and look at the bottom... unofficial versions
[09:01] <sauvin> You guys rule. It's there... and damn! it's faster than on fedora!
[09:02] <zerokill88> Simkin i believe my first usb port. wich is ttyACM0?
[09:02] <Kawika> dissection, sorry, it looks like command line only.  That might be a pain.
[09:02] <somedrew> dissection, there seem to be plenty of bzip2 compatible windows file-archivers. bzip2 is a little more effecient than .zip...7zip even more so. Maybe they can bring it down enough?
[09:02] <somedrew> Yup, 7zip is cli-only for linux. It's pretty straightfoward though
[09:03] <dissection> Oh okay
[09:03] <zerokill88> Simkin well maybe not, i have 4 ports that look like usb, but when i looekd inside of them, the ones ive been connecting to look different on the inside,
[09:03] <dissection> I think I better put them in 5 different folders then and zip them separately
[09:03] <tupa> somedrew, I checked some site days ago, RAR had one of the best compression rates
[09:03] <somedrew> tupa, really? I wasn't aware, thanks
[09:03] <mpech> ha
[09:03] <mpech> no memcache port for python :/
[09:04] <zerokill88> Simkin when i run wvdialconf i get this     WvModem<*1>: Cannot get information for serial port.
[09:04] <sport> anyone know if in networking the layers are in the necessary order of operation that is implied ( first top to bottom then bottom to up)?
[09:05] <Simkin> zerokill88: i'm not familiar with wvdialconf
[09:05] <sauvin> Rar is buyware :\
[09:05] <metalac> well the wiki didn't help all that much
[09:06] <zerokill88> Simkin can you help me connect to the net through my phone the way you know how???
[09:06] <zerokill88> plz
[09:06] <kporter> any one know y xdcc transfers will not work for me on xchat-gnome?
[09:06] <Simkin> zerokill88: maybe try out minicom, see if you can use it to communicte with the phone as a modem (send it a few at commands asee if you get an "OK" back)
[09:06] <g[r] eek> hi - any help appreciated: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=506019
[09:06] <metalac> not sure what the deal with my networking is, i get some NO DHCPOFFERS recieved errors
[09:06] <Simkin> zerokill88: then you can determine if you have the right port or not, once you have that the rest should be easy!
[09:06] <metalac> i know my dhcp server works fine since rest of the computers are fine
[09:06] <zerokill88> Simkin ok, is that in the respitories
[09:06] <sauvin> kporter, it might be a port issue. What ports are you using?
[09:06] <Simkin> I used that to connect through my cell phone zerokill88, http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
[09:07] <ding0k> somedrew: well, round 1 finished. I guess I'll try a reboot.
[09:07] <somedrew> ding0k, think good thoughts!
[09:07] <sport> metalac: hey can you explain the purpose of a dhcp server. I thought dhcp was protocol to obtian your ip from your isp?
[09:08] <ding0k> metalac: that's an oversimplification, but you've got the jist of it.
[09:08] <zerokill88> Simkin ok i ran minicom now what do i do or type
[09:08] <kporter> sauvin, should be xchat default as I just installed it a moment ago
[09:08] <ding0k> oops, I'm tired: to sport, not metalac.
[09:09] <sauvin> I can't comment about the gnome version of xchat; I ditched it FAST for the full version.
[09:09] <sport> dingok: so thats not right D:
[09:09] <Simkin> zerokill88: go into the config screena nd change the serial port
[09:09] <Kawika> metalac, have you tried setting a static IP on your card and seeing if it works that way ?
[09:09] <Simkin> zerokill88: and then just type at(enter)
[09:09] <Simkin> it should respond with "OK"
[09:09] <kporter> sauvin, k Guess I'll have to try that thx
[09:09] <metalac> sport: doesn't have to be from your ISP, could be your router or dedicated dhcp server in my case
[09:09] <metalac> Kawika: yep that doesn't work either
[09:09] <zerokill88> Simkin this is all i get Welcome to minicom 2.2
[09:09] <zerokill88> OPTIONS: I18n
[09:09] <zerokill88> Compiled on Mar  7 2007, 15:10:03.
[09:09] <zerokill88> Port /dev/tty8
[09:09] <zerokill88>               Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys
[09:09] <zerokill88> sorry room
[09:09] <leagris> hello, anyone can help about maildrop from the courier-imap package?
[09:09] <ding0k> sport: dhcp isn't the only way that ISPs can assign IP addresses to hosts. And, of course, you don't have to be an ISP to run a dhcp server. :)
[09:10] <BrendanM> Is there a way to SSH into my Ubuntu box, launch a GUI app, and then disconnect and leave the app running?
[09:10] <Simkin> zerokill88: ctrl-a z looks like where you want to go
[09:10] <BrendanM> I figured out how to use Screen to do it for terminal apps, but not for X apps
[09:10] <ding0k> somedrew: apache is broken.
[09:10] <ding0k> somedrew: lol
[09:10] <Kawika> metalac, what kind of NIC's are you using?
[09:10] <zerokill88> Simkin ah i hove a hotkey for ctrlz gota change that
[09:10] <ding0k> looks like ssh is too
[09:10] <Simkin> zerokill88: ctrl a, then z
[09:10] <Simkin> not ctrl-z
[09:10] <metalac> Kawika: one of the tulip ones, i know it runs 100% fine since i took it out of another working box
[09:10] <Salmon_Maki> What are the minimum requirements for using Ubuntu? I want to set up a cheap computer with it and let my little sister abuse it.
[09:10] <ding0k> somedrew: sweet, R.I.P. my server.
[09:11] <sport> dingok: so a didicated dhcp server would be for a intranet? *crosses finger*
[09:11] <xyyzzz> If I wanted my computer to execute a command every time it started up (for example, ping another computer), how would I go about doing that?
[09:11] <metalac> Kawika: it get's recognized just fine by lspci and what not
[09:11] <g[r] eek> xyyzz: google ubuntu rc.local
[09:11] <somedrew> ding0k, lol.. it booted though right? Still have access to triage apache?
[09:11] <playme123> were do you live salmon
[09:11] <sport> dingok: or for a network of networks outside of the internets
[09:11] <xyyzzz> g[r] eek, thank you :)
[09:11] <ziroday> xyyzzz: write a script and put it under sessions
[09:12] <Kawika> metalac: that's strange.  The few boxes that I have setup found the NIC's right off
[09:12] <ding0k> somedrew: It booted, but so far all I can do is ping it.
[09:12] <zerokill88> Simkin now why did you want me to change serial device?
[09:12] <zerokill88> Simkin it says its dev/tty8
[09:12] <metalac> Kawika: well this one is seen by the OS just fine, it's just that when i try to get outside it won't do it, as if the cable is unpluged or something
[09:12] <ding0k> somedrew: what is "triage" apache?
[09:13] <leagris> hello, anyone can help about maidrop from the courier-imap package, for setting multiple KEYWORDS on delivered message? Work fine with one keyword but setting multiples ones fail.
[09:13] <ding0k> somedrew: ooh I can ssh now
[09:13] <somedrew> ding0k, just figure out what the issue is a do a quick fix
[09:13] <Simkin> zerokill88: change it to what port you think the modem is on.
[09:13] <ding0k> somedrew: well, now maybe I can, before I couldn't ssh. :)
[09:13] <somedrew> ding0k, yay ssh! Ok...so this should be doable without a lengthly drive~!
[09:14] <zerokill88> Simkin oh ok, so it doesnt automatiaclly check it for you, then what, how do i set up everyhting else? sorry for so many newb question
[09:14] <Kawika> metalac: I'm too much of a noob on Ubuntu to know where to start.  I'm a bit more familiar in that "other" OS.
[09:15] <tupa> does someone know how to "refresh" a terminal after you edit .bashrc without restarting the terminal?
[09:15] <Simkin> zerokill88: once we find the port we'll see what we can do next. also, what cell phone do you have?
[09:15] <Simkin> zerokill88: i think you should have a /dev/ttySUSB0 or something to that effect.. not sure though
[09:15] <tupa> I've seen that command somewhere but I forgot it
[09:15] <metalac> Kawika: well i'm a gentoo user myself for the past 4-5 years and ubuntu is a bit strange in some things
[09:15] <somedrew> tupa, either ". ~/.bashrc" or "source ~/.bashrc"
[09:16] <zerokill88> Simkin i can connect to my Razr v3 with Moto4lin and see all my phone files and it says the ACM device is /dev/usb/acm/0
[09:16] <tupa> oh, yes that was it, source
[09:16] <tupa> :)
[09:16] <kporter> Well getting the full version worked... weird :)  thanks
[09:16] <Kawika> metalac: I've loaded Ubuntu and Edubuntu Server and am loving it
[09:16] <zerokill88> Simkin would i type that fullpath?
[09:16] <Simkin> zerokill88: try that in minicom then.
[09:16] <Simkin> zerokill88: not sure what acm is though
[09:16] <Disabled> hello
[09:17] <Disabled> it is possible to install ubuntu with an flash card?
[09:17] <zerokill88> Simkin what else would i have to edit
[09:17] <sauvin> kporter, glad to help :)
[09:17] <ding0k> somedrew: well, everything seems to be working -- I think the apache was an upstart issue.
[09:17] <somedrew> Disabled, as long as your BIOS supports booting from USB you can (there should be lots of information around. haven't done it myself though)
[09:18] <ding0k> somedrew: like, the new package expected upstart to start it but upstart wasn't installed yet.
[09:18] <Disabled> somedrew ok.. becouse my cd-rom harm all my Cds and then can't boot them
[09:18] <somedrew> ding0k, nice! Wiped the sweat off your forehead yet?
[09:18] <ding0k> somedrew: after another reboot I will. ;)
[09:19] <sport> somedrew: where does your system audit the dns from?
[09:19] <somedrew> ding0k, yeah, I mentioned the upstart issue because I thought something may come of it (it was setup to install after everything else to help avoid issues...not sure of the technicalities)
[09:19] <Simkin> zerokill88: i'm not sure, i'm googling for your phone and linux and internet.. not finding much
[09:20] <somedrew> sport, , I'm using my isp's dns servers, is that what you're refering to? Why?
[09:20] <sport> somedrew i meant "your" as a general thing not literally you
[09:20] <ding0k> somedrew: so, I was wrong, my server's page was cached..apache is still down. Want to give me a crash course in how to start a daemon using upstart?
[09:21] <zerokill88> Simkin thanks, but now i get this when i try to run minicom   minicom: cannot open /dev/usb/acm/0: No such file or directory
[09:21] <ding0k> somedrew: scratch that, now it's up again -- this is strange.
[09:21] <zerokill88> Simkin how do i change it back
[09:21] <somedrew> sport, I don't mess around with networking that much, but I believe it's /etc/reslv.conf
[09:21] <Simkin> zerokill88: same way.
[09:21] <Simkin> zerokill88: ctrl-a, z, o etc.
[09:21] <noodle____> does anyone know how i can fix my gdm splash screen font? it's sooo tiny
[09:21] <somedrew> sport, typo: /etc/resolv.conf
[09:22] <zerokill88> Simkin no thats all i get when i run   minicom in terminal it doesnt start
[09:22] <dissection> somedrew: If ext3 has a 4GB file-size limit, what about DVD images? Those're usually around 6GB
[09:22] <sport> somedrew: i meant does it just referance your isp: do all isp have "the phone book"
[09:22] <Simkin> zerokill88: delete the config files, probably ~/.minicom
[09:22] <metbsd> ext3 has 4G file size limit?
[09:23] <somedrew> sport, yup. All isps *should* have them...and there are lots of freely available dns servers as well
[09:23] <tupa> somedrew: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30662/  call it weird huh?
[09:23] <Kawika> sport: I've found that some ISP's DNS is slower than others.  Hence I run a set of free DNS servers that update quickly.
[09:24] <tupa> I touched sudo now
[09:24] <sport> somedrew: thanks Im trying to teach myself networking and it tough, do you mind if i sporadically ask you questions ? :D
[09:24] <NETWizz> do any of you do seamless rdp
[09:24] <hexstar> !offlist
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offlist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <hexstar> !ubuntu offlist
[09:24] <metbsd> what do you mean "run set of dns servers"?
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu offlist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <metbsd> do you know what' dns is for?
[09:24] <leagris> NETWizz, I do
[09:24] <sport> kawika: does a slow dns server mean a slow upload?
[09:24] <hexstar> !dns
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <somedrew> dissection, not actually sure on that. Single-layer data DVDs would be under the limit and I haven't tried to write an image over 4. Some filesystems have a larger limit
[09:25] <hexstar> a dns is used for resolving a domain name, say google.com to the server ip lik 127.0.0.1
[09:25] <Kawika> sport: slow meaning when domain information changes, it can take a while for them to reflect that change
[09:25] <eps> what is a good replacement for fraps? I'm trying wink but it only saves as .exe or .swf
[09:25] <ding0k> somedrew: all right, now an hour and a half later, I'm compiling what I originally wanted to.
[09:25] <hexstar> what's the ubuntu ot channel?
[09:25] <hexstar> !off topic
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <somedrew> sport, no worries. I'm not that informed about networking though. Ask away and some people should be able to help (or a good ol' wikipedia search)
[09:25] <hexstar> !ubuntu ot
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu ot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <Kawika> metbsd: I specify different DNS server information than what the ISP provides, because it updates more frequently.
[09:26] <hexstar> what's the ubuntu ot channel?
[09:26] <Sbucat_> metbsd: put this for dns gedit /etc/resolv.conf  nomeserver 208.67.222.222 nomeserver 208.67.220.220
[09:26] <leagris> NETWizz, do you have question on using Remote Desktop from Ubuntu to Windows or from remote to a Ubuntu box?
[09:26] <dissection> Kawika: Can I do that even though I have a dynamic IP?
[09:26] <metbsd> DNS stand for domain name server, you don't host a domain, you don't need a DNS
[09:26] <somedrew> tupa, weird. Maybe the timestamp expired by the time the successful sudo -K went through?
[09:26] <sport> somedrew: yay ive been switching back and forth between recorded university lecture and wikipedia but nothing beat a genuine explanation
[09:27] <Kawika> dissection: you should be able to provided your "router" gives you a place to do it.
[09:27] <joshritger> can anyone tell me if python-cairo is the same as python2.4-cairo?
[09:27] <metbsd> you should do some reading before hosting this and hosting that
[09:27] <dissection> Kawika: My ISP's DNS server slows down at times like crazy. Sometimes its down for almost an hour or two which can get really frustrating.
[09:27] <hexstar> dissection: I don't think that's dns, I think that's the modem and/or router
[09:27] <Sbucat_> metbsd: ....for my connection i must set dns or my connection doesn t work!
[09:27] <somedrew> ding0k, you can breath now! (was it necessary to do the upgrade if you were gonna compile yourself?). Well...it's a shiny new system!
[09:27] <sauvin> Maybe. I used the dns at opendns.org, i think it was, under Fedora and it sped things up quite a bit.
[09:28] <metbsd> what you need is a dns cache, you do not setup domain name server
[09:28] <sport> kawika: what a example of an app the uses FTP ?
[09:28] <hexstar> proftpd
[09:28] <leagris> dissection, the best you can do is having a local DNS caching server on lyour lan with your ISP DNS as a forwarder or directly hooked to the root DNS's.
[09:28] <metbsd> btw, if you think your isp's dns is "slow", you should complain to them
[09:28] <ding0k> ding0k: well, what I'm compiling myself has nothing to do with packages I can download.. I'm compiling a profiler .. lol
[09:28] <metbsd> because dns is on your network, it's supposed to be fast
[09:28] <dissection> Hrm, okay
[09:28] <metbsd> dns is part of your internet service
[09:28] <sauvin> complain, comschmlain. Just use another dns.
[09:28] <arcad3> i have a question ..why mail from to google is sent to spam?
[09:29] <Sbucat_> metbsd: well my connection works this is sure ^^  if you are in wifi you must set dns....
[09:29] <Kawika> metbsd: the biggest issue I noticed is the updates, like when you change server information
[09:29] <somedrew> ding0k, heh, so I can safely assume that your conflicts have been resolved in Edgy?
[09:29] <arcad3> i have ptr record mx record SPF
[09:29] <ding0k> somedrew: yep.
[09:29] <somedrew> ding0k, :)
[09:29] <dissection> I haven't faced any problems with my new ISP but sometimes it takes a bit of time to resolve. My previous ISP was horrible at times when trying to resolve IPs.
[09:29] <ding0k> somedrew: Although java seems to have issues now. Is there some script that I run to make sure the sun java environment is happy?
[09:29] <metbsd> Kawika, change server information? what server? what information?
[09:29] <arcad3> !spf
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <Kawika> sport: hexstar mentioned one.  I'm not really up on *nix programs just yet :-)
[09:30] <metbsd> DNS is not just for hostname -> ip
[09:30] <metbsd> it's more
[09:30] <ding0k> somedrew: I know in older versions of ubuntu they had a "libgcj -> sun" script
[09:30] <arcad3> dns arcad3
[09:30] <somedrew> ding0k, It should have been setup automagically but you can try "update-alternative -config java"
[09:30] <Kawika> metbsd: I have a few clients that run their own mail servers.  In setting up the DNS info, the local ISP took from several hours to 24 hours.
[09:30] <xyyzzz> I used rc.local to execute commands at startup, but they are executing as root. Is there a way to make them execute as a different user?
[09:30] <ding0k> somedrew: that's such a memorable command that I didn't remember a single part of it
[09:30] <somedrew> ding0k, hmmm...I'm not familiar with that
[09:30] <joshritger> can anyone tell me if python-cairo is the same as python2.4-cairo?
[09:30] <ding0k> somedrew: maybe the "java" part
[09:31] <leagris> xyyzzz, su - user command
[09:31] <somedrew> ding0k, that should work (i'm going off of memory here though)
[09:31] <metbsd> ok your clients run their own mail servers, do they have a domain?
[09:31] <Kawika> metbsd: I found a "free" DNS provider (I guess you would call it), that reflects updates in under 20 minutes
[09:31] <xyyzzz> leagris, oh, sorry I thought that only worked for root...
[09:31] <xyyzzz> leagris, does it ask you for that user's password anywhere?
[09:32] <leagris> xyyzzz, as it is launched by root it won't need a passwd to change tu named user.
[09:32] <xyyzzz> leagris, okay, thanks :)
[09:32] <somedrew> ding0k, "update-alternatives" is a nice feature of Debian and distros based on it that can come in handy
[09:32] <xyyzzz> leagris, also, unfortunately my other computer won't start up now...
[09:32] <metbsd> ok, so if they have domain bbb.com, for mail server, they need to set MX record at least
[09:32] <Kawika> metbsd: yes, they have a domain that is hosted somewhere else, which makes the config that much more tricky.
[09:32] <xyyzzz> IT's saying "INIT: Id "4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes. INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel."... do you know how to make it boot without loading local.rc ?
[09:32] <can12345> Having a problem, and forums don't seem to be much help.  I am trying to install Ubuntu on my Thinkpad, and it installs fine.  When it restarts and tries to log into Ubuntu, though, I get the following error:
[09:32] <can12345> ata1: port failed to respond
[09:32] <can12345> ata1: COMRESET failed
[09:32] <can12345> Any thoughts?
[09:33] <ding0k> somedrew: ha! all that and the profiler doesn't seem to want to work over tunnel'd X
[09:33] <ding0k> somedrew: So much for that.
[09:33] <albertmk> I am having problems with qtk-recordMyDesktop. It records my desktop really well, but it is not recording the sound from the background...
[09:33] <Kawika> metbsd: yup, we went through that whole fun process of mail server is "here" and web site is "there".
[09:33] <Kawika> Godaddy makes all that pretty easy though
[09:34] <metbsd> Kawika, what's the domain
[09:34] <somedrew> ding0k, profiler issue you think or something else like x forwarding?
[09:34] <leagris> hello, anyone can help about maidrop from the courier-imap package, for setting multiple KEYWORDS on delivered message? Work fine with one keyword but setting multiples ones fail.
[09:34] <albertmk> I am having problems with qtk-recordMyDesktop. It records my desktop really well, but it is not recording the sound from the background...
[09:34] <leagris> !maildrop
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maildrop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <leagris> !courier-imap
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about courier-imap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Kawika> metbsd: it's setup and running now for almost 2 years.  Running great.  New to xchat so not sure how to send privately
[09:35] <ding0k> somedrew: thanks for the help ::Waves::
[09:35] <UnknowSpace> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh\
[09:35] <metbsd> Kawika, domain need to be hosted on the root dns at least
[09:35] <ding0k> somedrew: I'm not sure what the issue is -- the error is from GTK though "can't open window"
[09:36] <metbsd> from that root dns you can host something else
[09:36] <can12345> noones heard of my issue before?  It is really frustrating.  Does it with Ubuntu and Fedora both, so I feel stuck
[09:36] <Kawika> metbsd: yes, with Godaddy, I have setup the www to point to the hosting, and mail.abc.com to the IP of the office.
[09:36] <Kawika> metbsd: where the mail server resides.
[09:36] <Taco`> I only hear sound out of one side when in Sound Preferences and testing ALSA but not with OSS, did I break something?
[09:37] <somedrew> ding0k, no prob..happy to help. I'm not sure what's going on with that error though.
[09:37] <metbsd> Kawika, so what's the problem
[09:38] <Kawika> metbsd: even went as far as having the ISP fix the reverse DNS lookup to respond mail.abc.com.
[09:38] <MrGreencastl1> Taco`: try turning the volume down completely in ALSA mixer then back up
[09:38] <MrGreencastl1> It fixes it for me
[09:38] <Kawika> metbsd: sorry, there is no problem.  I even forget how we got on this... hehe
[09:38] <metbsd> DNS should do reverse lookup too
[09:38] <Taco`> Nope, :<
[09:39] <Kawika> metbsd: yes, it's a good tool to use for spam prevention
[09:39] <sport> telnet is the protocol to use remote terminal on a lan or Internet right?
[09:39] <Flannel> sport: no.  Use SSH.
[09:39] <MajorPayne> sport: It can be, ssh is better.
[09:40] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: ssh is just encrypted
[09:40] <sport> ssh is a secure protocol between two comps?
[09:40] <albertmk> How can I find out which one is my Audio Device????????????
[09:40] <MajorPayne> tarzeau: Hense it is better.
[09:40] <tupa> sport: telnet is not secure, not encrypted
[09:40] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: it's also slower
[09:40] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: faster is not always better
[09:40] <buntunub> ssh -X
[09:40] <MajorPayne> tarzeau: Not really.
[09:40] <buntunub> use it, learn it, live it it rocks
[09:40] <albertmk> sport: ssh is very easy to use! :D
[09:40] <sport> tupa majorpayne what else is telnet used for
[09:40] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: well let's not discuss this again
[09:40] <MrGreencastl1> Taco` : Sorry that fix is for OSS, nvm
[09:41] <metbsd> ssh has its use, telnet has its use
[09:41] <albertmk> sport: type: ssh ip
[09:41] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: there's always three things, sometimes you need speed more than security
[09:41] <buntunub> ssh -X servername@IP
[09:41] <tupa> sport, to use a shell over the net
[09:41] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: and you can do that in a special environment
[09:41] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: Any fix for ALSA?
[09:41] <tupa> and control the remote computer sport
[09:41] <albertmk> sport, then it will request the password of the linux user you are logging to
[09:41] <sauvin> People still use telnet?
[09:41] <buntunub> your servers need the ssh server daemon
[09:41] <chovy> sauvin: only for http
[09:41] <somedrew> sport, you can also tunnel other connections through ssh (like VNC for example) to keep them secure as well
[09:41] <MrGreencastl1> Taco`: not that I know of, as ALSA doesn't work for me.
[09:41] <MajorPayne> tarzeau: Ok, you use telnet.
[09:41] <sport> albertmk the root user?
[09:41] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: Bleh, :<
[09:41] <albertmk> sport, yes
[09:42] <metbsd> there's nothing wrong with telnet. it's just old technology
[09:42] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: i mostly use ssh, but there's good reasons for me to somtimes use telnet indeed
[09:42] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: The odd thing is, is that it works -sometimes-.
[09:42] <sport> somedrew: define tunnel and VNC XD
[09:42] <buntunub> vncviewer -via hostIP localhost:x  (x=X server)
[09:42] <Enselic> !kernel
[09:42] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:42] <albertmk> sport, until now, I shut down my computer remotely by ssh :D
[09:42] <albertmk> sport, and downloaded somethings..
[09:43] <buntunub> ssh -X  is better tho
[09:43] <sport> albertmk whats the lag on ssh ... same as ping?
[09:43] <MrGreencastl1> Taco` : ALSA works for me before the initial kernel update, but after it switches to OSS, and ALSA doesn't work, which is a bummer, since thats the only way I can get sound recording working
[09:43] <metbsd> what's most difficult server to setup?
[09:43] <buntunub> vncviewer -via is very sloooow
[09:43] <albertmk> sport, I dont know.
[09:44] <pawan> list
[09:44] <sport> albertmk lol right you wouldnt be there to see would you ....
[09:44] <albertmk> :-)
[09:44] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: Fixed it! It was something in my .asoundrc file that was screwing it up.
[09:44] <buntunub> if you just want to setup a bunch of thin clients ten just use nano
[09:44] <buntunub> err nomachine
[09:44] <somedrew> sport, http://www.realvnc.com/ VNC is a way to 'remote control' computers across a network. Tunneling through SSH means that the VNC session is secured by being 'wrapped' up by the SSH connection (VNC sends everything in plaintext - no encryption)
[09:44] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: Why not just select ALSA rather than OSS?
[09:44] <buntunub> aka NX
[09:44] <MrGreencastl1> Taco` : It doesn't work
[09:45] <albertmk> I am having problems with qtk-recordMyDesktop. I have already searched on Google but I cannot find any good tutorial...
[09:45] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: No output?
[09:45] <somedrew> buntunub, , yay freeNX!
[09:45] <albertmk> I just cant record the audio with the video... no sounds ..
[09:45] <albertmk> *gtk-recordMyDesktop
[09:45] <MrGreencastl1> Taco`:  There isn't an entry, it just gets removed after I update the kernel after initial install
[09:45] <buntunub> NX is very very fast for a port forwarded session unlike tightvnc which is slooooow
[09:46] <sport> somedrew like sending a non-encypted message through a secure shh connection?
[09:46] <somedrew> buntunub, yeah it's great: but i've found it can be a bit harder to setup
[09:46] <somedrew> sport, exactly!
[09:46] <MrGreencastl1> Taco`:  Doesn't matter, I've been trying to fix it for 4 months
[09:46] <buntunub> i still think ssh -X is the way to go tho if you just need to run a few X apps
[09:46] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: So you've tried installing ALSA manually already?
[09:46] <sport> somedrew yay thanks
[09:47] <buntunub> << im running gaim on ssh -X right now lol
[09:47] <somedrew> heh
[09:47] <albertmk> buntunub, what do you mean?
[09:47] <TiMiDo> !info compiz-fusion
[09:47] <ubotu> Package compiz-fusion does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:47] <Kawika> somedrew: do you realvnc for remote sessions?
[09:47] <you`s> hy
[09:47] <Kawika> somedrew: do you USE realvnc for remote sessions?
[09:47] <buntunub> i have gaim running on another server thats port forwarded to my laptop
[09:47] <MrGreencastl1> Taco`:  Yeah, I've tried almost everything
[09:47] <sport> somedrew can shh be between many comps or as a rule only 2?
[09:47] <somedrew> Kawika, I've used it in the past but not currently
[09:48] <somedrew> sport, it's a connection between 2, but you can always chain ssh connections
[09:48] <albertmk> buntunub, cool, but what is the advantage of that?
[09:48] <siddharta> hello everybody
[09:48] <somedrew> sport, example: I ssh from machine1 into machine2 and ssh into machine3 from machine2
[09:48] <buntunub> its FAST
[09:48] <you`s> pie kabare
[09:48] <buntunub> its good for thin clients like old machines
[09:49] <albertmk> buntunub, why dont you run gaim from your own laptop?
[09:49] <buntunub> and its good for IP masking
[09:49] <siddharta> i freshly installed ubuntu for a friend on his first computer, and i would need to make 'transparent for him' a rsync of his /home before he shuts down the computer
[09:49] <albertmk> siddharta, you are a bad friend :D
[09:50] <sport> somedrew i understand the protocal of shh now but what apps use this?
[09:50] <buntunub> ssh is used in a terminal
[09:50] <Flannel> sport: ssh is a method to login to a remote machine and get a terminal, you use apps through ssh.
[09:50] <you`s> hy
[09:50] <buntunub> your already setup with it in a base ubuntu install
[09:50] <siddharta> so i would need to lauch a shell script executing rsync in a appropriate runlevel (like S99backup-home.sh)
[09:50] <Ind[y] > My VIM is not compiled with +syntax (the default installation of VIM). How can I recompile it with +syntax (for syntax highlighting)?
[09:51] <Flannel> Ind[y] : install vim-full if you haven't already
[09:51] <siddharta> but i don't know anymore in which run level to launch it
[09:51] <Ademan> anyone here use apache ant?
[09:51] <albertmk> it is really cool to configure your computer to shut down in X minutes.
[09:51] <somedrew> sport: ssh is a "secure shell" it basically gives you a shell on the other computer. Any terminal apps installed on the machine you are connected to can be used, but you can also use any graphical apps by forwarding X through ssh
[09:51] <Ind[y] > Flannel: oh, ok. thanks :)
[09:51] <Salmon_Maki> I'm gonna download VMWare but it has 3 different downloadable versions. There a "Binary (.tar.gz)" a "Binary (.rpm)" and a "Binary (.zip)" -- which would be better for me to download since I use Ubuntu and am a Newbie?
[09:51] <albertmk> of course, using the ssh
[09:52] <somedrew> sport, It's best to think of ssh as a way to accessing other computers and any applications they have installed
[09:52] <buntunub> i use it for running apps i cant run on thin clients at work and home
[09:52] <albertmk> somedrew, how can I prevent my computer from brute force attack through ssh?
[09:53] <Enselic> albertmk: disallow password authentication
[09:53] <somedrew> albertmk, use a key-pair maybe?
[09:53] <sport> somedrew: but could you "see" them graphically
[09:53] <NETWizz> anyone here do seamless rd
[09:53] <NETWizz> rdp
[09:53] <somedrew> sport, yup
[09:53] <NETWizz> I want to do it seamlessly
[09:53] <siddharta> does anyone have an idea
[09:53] <albertmk> Enselic, very wise.
[09:53] <NETWizz> How do I do that
[09:53] <NETWizz> I installed the seamless rdp thing
[09:53] <buntunub> theres a great wiki on ssh and vnc on the buntu docs
[09:53] <NETWizz> but it doesn't seem to work
[09:53] <sport> somedrew: Waa thats crazy
[09:53] <MikeRotch> hey everyone
[09:54] <selig5> hey
[09:54] <Enselic> albertmk: I'm not sure if you were sarcasitc, but I were serious, only allow public key authentication
[09:54] <somedrew> albertmk, I only use ssh as a client myself so I'm not too sure, but using a key-based approach would help
[09:54] <Enselic> albertmk: and make yourself a keypair to login with
[09:54] <sport> somedrew: id like to try that out but only have one linux box... one that goes online
[09:54] <buntunub> you can limit the logins and specify an IP range too
[09:54] <FeistyNux> hi all :)
[09:54] <albertmk> Enselic, I though you were beeing sarcasitc... sorry. I though you meant to make it public acess, in order to anyone access it...  my english is not good.
[09:55] <buntunub> just steer clear of doing ssh_config changes and you should be good
[09:55] <somedrew> albertmk, Enselic knows better than me
[09:55] <albertmk> :-)
[09:55] <jhattu> I am having a small problem with OOo in ubuntu. However, OOo works perfectly in Ubuntu in recovery mode. How could I repair the installation so that OOo would work in normal mode too?
[09:55] <albertmk> Enselic, can you explain more about it? I am really interested on it.
[09:56] <buntunub> reinstall OOo
[09:56] <buntunub> via synaptic
[09:56] <ziroday> jhattu: reinstall
[09:56] <jhattu> buntunub: I have done it several times...
[09:56] <buntunub> thats kinda weird
[09:56] <NETWizz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-vzTXS2KsA
[09:56] <jhattu> and I _should_ have all necessary packages installed...
[09:56] <NETWizz> How do I do seamless rdp
[09:56] <ziroday> jhattu: did you also remove config files?
[09:56] <noone64_> 3C
[09:56] <NETWizz> This sucks
[09:56] <Enselic> albertmk: I'm not sure where to start, what do you know about public key authentication?
[09:56] <noone64_> 5C
[09:56] <NETWizz> I cannot seem to manage it
[09:56] <NETWizz> Why not
[09:57] <somedrew> sport, you could try it out with a friends computer...or if you have a school/work account that allows SSH...connect to your account from there. I personally use SSH mostly to connect to my school network
[09:57] <buntunub> well the deps should be taken care of with a reinstall
[09:57] <jhattu> ziroday: yes, between installations I deleted the hidden .openoffice2 -folder from my home folder
[09:57] <Enselic> albertmk: do you have a ssh server running?
[09:57] <albertmk> Enselic, hmmmm nothing? :-)
[09:57] <albertmk> Enselic, no
[09:57] <Enselic> albertmk: but you would like to set one up?
[09:57] <albertmk> no
[09:57] <Enselic> albertmk: umm, so what is the question again?
[09:57] <ziroday> jhattu: also try removing and installing instead of reinstalling
[09:57] <albertmk> I just have a computer and a laptop
[09:57] <buntunub> try a sudo apt-get remove openoffice then sudo apt-get install
[09:57] <albertmk> I access it with my laptop
[09:57] <Flannel> albertmk: another option is to use something like DenyHosts, that blocks people who fail X times.  Also, don't enable your root account, and use strong passwords
[09:58] <Enselic> albertmk: right, and you would like to log in securely onto your desktop from your laptop?
[09:58] <jhattu> ziroday: yes, I did that too. And I also tried to install the deb package downloaded from openoffice.org but it never worked :(
[09:58] <albertmk> Flaneel and Enselic: this "fail X times" is really interesting.
[09:58] <albertmk> Enselic, yes. I already have a good and strong password, but I want more security.
[09:58] <jhattu> buntunub: ok, I'll try that once more
[09:58] <ziroday> jhattu: thats really odd, whats the specific issue with OOO and have you ever installed any plugins regarding OOO
[09:58] <Flannel> albertmk: http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/  it's in universe
[09:59] <sport> somedrew: so (dumb question alert) shh works outside of linux?
[09:59] <ziroday> jhattu: also you could try #openoffice.org
[09:59] <Enselic> albertmk: what do you use to login remotely at the moment?
[09:59] <somedrew> sport, yup!
[09:59] <Flannel> sport: putty is a popular windows SSH client
[09:59] <jhattu> ziroday: I did, they were very helpful but it did not help yet. only after that discussion I found out that OOo works perfectly in recovery mode
[09:59] <sport> somedrew: how would you find the "root" of a windows comp?
[10:00] <albertmk> Enselic, I run emac for editing .cpp and .h files.
[10:00] <buntunub> yea sounds like the package your using is seriously conflicting with your setups somehow
[10:00] <ziroday> jhattu: whats the actual issue?
[10:00] <jhattu> ziroday: the problem sounds minor: I am missing at least one function of OOo Calc: MROUND, and I really need it...
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> sport: %WINDRIVE% I think
[10:00] <albertmk> Enselic, I mean, I intend to run that thing...
[10:00] <somedrew> if you have access, you can do some searching...usually the root directory of a drive though: c:, d:, z:, etc...unless they restrict access
[10:00] <Enselic> albertmk: ok    can you log in onto your desktop from your laptop currently?
[10:01] <magnetron> sport: the client runs in windows, but you connect to a unix server and will  see the root of the server
[10:01] <ziroday> jhattu: hmm that is really odd, maybe it is not included in a recent version of OOO but it is in recovery mode version
[10:01] <ziroday> jhattu: just a shot in the dark
[10:01] <jhattu> ziroday, no, it works very well from live cd too
[10:01] <MajorPayne> NFS works a lot better after you install portmap.
[10:01] <albertmk> I intend to. I want to work in my desktop remotely with my laptop - editing simple .cpp and .h files.
[10:01] <ziroday> jhattu: you use special repos for OOO?
[10:01] <ziroday> jhattu: or a repo that has OOO?
[10:01] <buntunub> lol
[10:01] <jhattu> ziroday, no, just the ones installed with synaptic
[10:02] <Enselic> albertmk: sorry, I have to go, this seems to explain nicely how to do: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[10:02] <metbsd> hate to say this, but office 2007 is alot better than OOO
[10:02] <buntunub> so you cant launch OOo at all or just cant get one of the functions to work
[10:02] <sauvin> In what way?
[10:02] <albertmk> Enselic, see you! Thank you!  :-)
[10:02] <jhattu> being a linux newbie it might be that some time ago I have messed around with something, if I just knew with what :)
[10:02] <magnetron> if you are setting up a SSH server, install the fail2ban package too
[10:02] <osfameron> metbsd: I think you may be right, OOo is hateful in many ways
[10:02] <jayde_drag0n> anyone who can help... i cannot get my torrents to download more than a small percentage then they drop... my forwarding is set correctly and so is every optimization i can think of/find
[10:02] <jhattu> buntunub: OOo works very well, but this one function in calc is not existing. sounds weird, huh?
[10:03] <ziroday> jhattu: having a function missing after multiple reinstalls is very odd, i reccomend a full reinstall or try installing the packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[10:03] <metbsd> OOO is pretty good for free. but office 2007 improved too much over 2003
[10:03] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: you have a problem with the port forwarding
[10:03] <buntunub> for that give the OOo website forums a try
[10:03] <magnetron> metbsd: we don't care
[10:03] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: unless its broken.. no i don't
[10:03] <osfameron> true, you can't argue with OOo's price :-)
[10:03] <metbsd> office2007 vs office2003 is like windows xp vs windows98
[10:03] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: that was the FIRST thing i did.. i know how to configure my port forwarding
[10:03] <jhattu> ziroday: I have done that several times, and doesnt help. weird is that this function works when I am in recovery mode...
[10:04] <Catoptromancy_> OOo does everything i need for school
[10:04] <Poz> sup
[10:04] <jhattu> buntunub: I did (both forum and irc) but they couldnt help
[10:04] <ziroday> jhattu: no i mean linux reinstall
[10:04] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: the symptoms sounds exactly like it. what client do you use? on which port is it listening?
[10:04] <metbsd> magnetron, who are you? "we" means you and who?
[10:04] <jhattu> ziroday: dang.
[10:04] <Poz> whats the best music player for linux
[10:04] <metbsd> xmms
[10:04] <Poz> i meant to say dvd player
[10:04] <tarzeau> Poz: opencubicplayer
[10:04] <tarzeau> Poz: mplayer
[10:04] <ziroday> jhattu: youve tried the packeges in packages.ubuntu.com?
[10:04] <buntunub> theres lots
[10:05] <ziroday> Poz: amarok
[10:05] <Poz> i know
[10:05] <centaur5> for some reason my intel card no longer works properly and gives the error xlib: extension "glx" missing on 0:0 when I try to run glxgears. Any ideas?
[10:05] <metbsd> amarok is good
[10:05] <Poz> there are tons of them
[10:05] <buntunub> amarok is awesome but its kde based
[10:05] <magnetron> metbsd: this is the ubuntu support channel. other questions are offtopic, take them to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:05] <metbsd> there's alot, but there's no outstanding one
[10:05] <jhattu> ziroday: if I back up my whole home folder and reinstall ubuntu and then copy my saved home folder backup to the new home folder, should I have all my personal settings back again?
[10:05] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: Azureus .. and i've tried bittornado and default bittorrent.. and its currently set to 49155
[10:05] <buntunub> rythm is pretty good too
[10:05] <Poz> thats why im here i need to know whats the best for playing dvd,s music ect
[10:05] <jhattu> ziroday: do those packages.ubuntu.com differ from the ones I get with synaptic?
[10:05] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: and for each client i choes a different port and manually set it in my router
[10:05] <Poz> to many to choose :(
[10:05] <OMG> :o
[10:05] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: other than setting my self up in the ... whatsitcalled zone
[10:06] <ziroday> jhattu: no, but your synaptics ones may be faulty from your local server, this way its better than full reinstall
[10:06] <ziroday> jhattu: also yes
[10:06] <buntunub> the ubuntu default multimedia stuff is pretty decent with codecs installed
[10:06] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: and they are connected to plenty of seeds
[10:06] <sport> i was reading the putty site it saw its illegal in contries where encryption is outlawed... wheres that
[10:06] <Poz> which mulimeia program do you have
[10:06] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: you could try to portscan yourself, and see if the ports are open
[10:06] <jhattu> ziroday: so should I download a deb package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/ ?
[10:06] <metbsd> there's putty tool that convert ssh public key to putty key format
[10:07] <kblin> hi
[10:07] <magnetron> jhattu: no, use synaptic
[10:07] <metbsd> you can use that
[10:07] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: okay i've never used that command in ubuntu.. what do i type?
[10:07] <Poz> sup kblin
[10:07] <ziroday> jhattu: yes
[10:07] <buntunub> putty is on the universe repo i think too
[10:07] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: install something like nmapfe
[10:07] <jhattu> magnetron & ziroday: a conflict between your hints?
[10:07] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: will i find that in add/remove or synaptics?
[10:08] <ziroday> magnetron: may be his local repo is faulty
[10:08] <metbsd> it's silly to nmap yourself
[10:08] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: you will have to do it from a computer on the internet. if you give me the port number, i could help you
[10:08] <buntunub> oh well gnite all
[10:09] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: how do i give you my port number
[10:09] <Poz> any one use vlc player
[10:09] <NETWizz> how do I lookup a package I installed
[10:09] <NETWizz> via dpkg
[10:09] <ziroday> Poz: yes
[10:09] <metbsd> i use kmplayer
[10:09] <Poz> ziroday is it good for movies, dvds, and music ?
[10:09] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: or did you mean give me the port nuber i'm using and my ip address or something?.. i have to do it from a seperate computer?
[10:09] <ziroday> Poz: depends do you prefer winamp or itunes?
[10:09] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: tell me what ports you tried open, and i will do it for you
[10:09] <Poz> itunes
[10:10] <Poz> but usually i use windows media player
[10:10] <ziroday> Poz: its not good for orginazation but it can play everything
[10:10] <Poz> :)
[10:10] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: Azureus is currently trying to use 49155    but i will settle for any port that will work
[10:10] <ziroday> Poz: it basically uses files to organize your music
[10:10] <Poz> i think ill keep that one :)
[10:10] <metbsd> amorak is good, you should use it
[10:10] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: start azureus
[10:11] <Kawika> Poz: I agree with ziroday on VLC.  Plays everything I've thrown at it on my XP computer.
[10:11] <metbsd> ktorrent is good too
[10:11] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: it is already starrted and open and i have my options screen open
[10:11] <metbsd> kde is good, actually
[10:11] <ziroday> Poz: amarok for music democracy player for vids
[10:11] <Poz> i just install vlc
[10:11] <ziroday> Poz: its how i work
[10:11] <jhattu> ok, thanks everybody, I'll consider reinstalling whole ubuntu :-/
[10:11] <metbsd> jhattu, why
[10:11] <ziroday> jhattu: sorry i couldnt help you more
[10:11] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: ok, that port is open. but a lot of people have hade problems with azuerus
[10:12] <jhattu> ziroday: no, thank you!
[10:12] <sauvin> It took about as much time to install ubuntu as it did to chuck some meat loaf into the microwave to heat up.
[10:12] <ziroday> jhattu: :)
[10:12] <metbsd> im going to install ubuntu in vmware
[10:12] <metbsd> in windows
[10:12] <Kawika> metbsd: I did just the opposite the other day
[10:12] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: i pick up quick.. i've been a windows tech/sys admin for 10 years but i've only ben using linux for 3 days now.. i love it and i learn fast... but some things are frustrating when your used to knowing how to do it all  already.. and my torrents used to scream in
[10:12] <metalac> so i have weird issue with the wireless module it's present in /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-generic/ubuntu/wireless/rtl8187, but when i do modprobe rtl8187 it says module not found, what gives?
[10:12] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: 3 days ago that is
[10:12] <metbsd> i just can't refuse windows xp. i don't now why
[10:13] <Poz> linux is fun until you want to play games on it
[10:13] <Poz> then it sux
[10:13] <chowmeined> windows is fun until you want to be productive
[10:13] <ziroday> jayde_drag0n: azuerus is a pain under linux try utorrent or deluge or ktorrent
[10:13] <Catoptromancy_> Poz, why is that?
[10:13] <BusMaster> i installed ubuntu am64 on my shiny new laptop. Then I did atp-get install kubuntu-desktop and now while booting it showns the kubuntu logo instead of Ubuntu logo. How do i get my original Ubuntu logo back?
[10:13] <metbsd> i think it has something to do with: 1. it's a laptop. 2. photoshop and illustrators, 3. bluetooth
[10:13] <chowmeined> ziroday: utorrent doesnt run under linux...
[10:13] <Catoptromancy_> Poz, Linux is my gaming OS
[10:13] <Poz> !!!
[10:13] <Catoptromancy_> heh
[10:13] <Poz> no way
[10:13] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: welcome to ubuntu! i have heard a lot of good things about deluge or transmission
[10:13] <magnetron> !deluge | jayde_drag0n
[10:13] <ziroday> chowmeined: works like a treat under wine, it might as well work under linux
[10:13] <Poz> catopt none of my gmes will run in linux
[10:13] <chowmeined> deluge is nice, i like it lots
[10:14] <Poz> and i heard you had to get cedega which you pay for
[10:14] <Catoptromancy_> Only reason I dual boot windows are for doom ports that force DirectX
[10:14] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: do they give me a lot of options or do they limit me like the stupid bittornado and bittorrent
[10:14] <chowmeined> yea but utorrent got bought by the inc
[10:14] <Catoptromancy_> Every other game works
[10:14] <Kawika> metbsd: I have a dedicated machine I run Xp on for PS and Illustrator.
[10:14] <magnetron> Poz: wine is better than cedega in many cases
[10:14] <ubotu> jayde_drag0n: deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[10:14] <Poz> catop which games do you play on linux
[10:14] <Catoptromancy_> wine, dosbox, native binaries
[10:14] <ziroday> jayde_drag0n: try ktorrent if you want lots of options?
[10:14] <jayde_drag0n> all right.. i'll try anything.. gimme 10 minues.. i'll uninstall azureus and install deluge
[10:14] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: medium
[10:14] <Poz> does wine have dx9 support ?
[10:15] <chowmeined> yup
[10:15] <magnetron> Poz: yes
[10:15] <Catoptromancy_> native, openarena, quake3, wesnoth, americas army, warsow, pysol
[10:15] <Catoptromancy_> heh
[10:15] <chowmeined> Poz: i play warcraft III under wine.. works great
[10:15] <Catoptromancy_> wine, Fallout,...I dont have many games really
[10:15] <chowmeined> apparently source works under it too
[10:15] <Poz> warcraft 3 doesnt require alot
[10:15] <Catoptromancy_> but 95% of games work in wine
[10:15] <chowmeined> Catoptromancy_: i wouldnt go that far
[10:15] <Poz> i tried to play star wars empire at war
[10:16] <magnetron> Poz: appdb.winehq.org
[10:16] <metalac> so i have weird issue with the wireless module it's present in /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-generic/ubuntu/wireless/rtl8187, but when i do modprobe rtl8187 it says module not found, what gives?
[10:16] <chowmeined> Catoptromancy_: id say 95% of games dont work in wine
[10:16] <Catoptromancy_> heh
[10:16] <metbsd> you don't really want to play those games, you play those games on liux to prove that linux can run those games
[10:16] <jayde_drag0n> ziroday: well i'll settle for working.. but isnt ktorrent for kubuntu? or does it not matter.. and does ktorrent make people as happy as deluge does?
[10:16] <Catoptromancy_> actually you need to cfg quite a bit , and # is probably 80-80%
[10:16] <metbsd> you miss the whole point of gaming
[10:16] <metbsd> see?
[10:16] <chowmeined> huh?
[10:16] <NeoGeo64> fortunately the game i like is linux native
[10:16] <metbsd> config like there's no tommorow, and get a bit of game to work
[10:16] <chowmeined> no i installed warcraft 3
[10:16] <chowmeined> and it just works
[10:17] <Catoptromancy_> I havent bought a new game in a long time
[10:17] <chowmeined> so i go play dota and junk
[10:17] <Poz> warcraft 3 is old it will run on anythign almost
[10:17] <ziroday> jayde_drag0n: still personal choice ktorrent has more options compared to deluge but is a bit more klunkier. ktorrent works under ubuntu fine as do nearly all kde apps
[10:17] <Catoptromancy_> but they all work
[10:17] <NeoGeo64> i do have some problems with my linux gaming
[10:17] <chowmeined> Poz: its still using direct X
[10:17] <NeoGeo64> sometimes sounds will cut out during the action
[10:17] <chowmeined> Poz: age has nothing to do with it
[10:17] <Poz> not 9
[10:17] <NeoGeo64> sometimes the direction keys will stick
[10:17] <NeoGeo64> or ill have to hit it twice to get it to respond
[10:17] <Poz> wc3 doesnt use the new direct x
[10:17] <magnetron> !offtopic | metbsd, chowmeined, Poz
[10:17] <ubotu> metbsd, chowmeined, Poz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:17] <chowmeined> Poz: i dont think you understand _why_ windows games dont work under linux
[10:17] <metbsd> if you have problems playing windows game on linux, who will you blame? the game itself? windows? wine? or linux?
[10:17] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron and ziroday: hang on.. i think mabye my thought about rebooting might have worked.... *holds breath*
[10:18] <NeoGeo64> Why would sounds cut out during the game?
[10:18] <sauvin> Because of the demands they make on the hardware.
[10:18] <NeoGeo64> its a 3d shooter called postal 2
[10:18] <MikeRotch> blame windows
[10:18] <chowmeined> metbsd: i blame the company who created the game
[10:18] <MikeRotch> for everything
[10:18] <chowmeined> and i dont purchase their products anymore
[10:18] <chowmeined> same with hardware
[10:18] <metbsd> hehehe
[10:18] <ziroday> !offtopic | MikeRotch chowmeined metbsd
[10:18] <ubotu> MikeRotch chowmeined metbsd: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:18] <metbsd> just blame everything else but linux
[10:18] <chowmeined> if they dont provide linux drivers, i blame the company.. and i dont buy their products anymore
[10:18] <Poz> do any companies make thre games for inux and windows ?
[10:18] <magnetron> !offtopic > metbsd
[10:18] <chowmeined> fine
[10:18] <metbsd> ??
[10:19] <chowmeined> anybody need help? :)
[10:19] <metbsd> we are talking about ubuntu wine
[10:19] <magnetron> this is the SUPPORT channel
[10:19] <chowmeined>  metbsd just talk in the other channel
[10:19] <metbsd> anyone tried playing microsoft games in ubuntu?
[10:19] <ziroday> metbsd: we help people not discuss
[10:19] <MikeRotch> where is the b/s channel
[10:19] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: i'm starting to see more normal speeds for me
[10:19] <ziroday> metbsd: which games
[10:19] <metbsd> flight simulators
[10:19] <ziroday> metbsd: appdb.wine.com
[10:20] <ziroday> metbsd: specifically?
[10:20] <jsestri2> flight sims suck a 'd'
[10:20] <jayde_drag0n> spoke too soon.. got up past 40 and died
[10:20] <magnetron> !offtopic > MikeRotch   (read private message from ubotu)
[10:20] <chowmeined> that nick is offensive
[10:20] <ziroday> jayde_drag0n: lol
[10:20] <MikeRotch> thx
[10:20] <metbsd> chowmeined, your nick is offensive
[10:20] <jsestri2> everyone knows i'm right
[10:21] <LuffarN^> #debian-se
[10:21] <chowmeined> magnetron: i already went in the other channel...
[10:21] <jayde_drag0n> *le sigh*
[10:21] <magnetron> chowmeined: keep the offtopic talk in that channel then
[10:21] <chowmeined> i am
[10:21] <jayde_drag0n> onto deluge.. i'll be back in 10
[10:21] <NeoGeo64> wine is stupid.
[10:21] <magnetron> NeoGeo64: that is not a support question
[10:21] <ziroday> NeoGeo64: go to offtopic please
[10:22] <Salmon_Maki> My programs like Pidgin and X-Chat used to show up in my Panel Bar on the bottom-right as little icons, but they don't show up there anymore, anyone know what happened or how I can turn them back on? :(
[10:22] <chowmeined> Salmon_Maki: find them in the menu, right click.. and select add to panel
[10:22] <Ominous> hey, how do you mount a usb key drive in terminal as i have managed to remove the gui loading somehow so only have terminal login etc and i need to back up some files before a reinstall
[10:22] <Salmon_Maki> chowmeined: i mean they used to show up only when they were open
[10:23] <alecwh> !fonts
[10:23] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:23] <magnetron> Salmon_Maki: right click the panel and add the notification area again
[10:24] <Salmon_Maki> magnetron: whoops didnt know i got rid of that :) thanks
[10:24] <magnetron> you're welcome, Salmon_Maki
[10:26] <valchers> hello
[10:26] <valchers> there is somebody
[10:26] <valchers> I have a problem with instal
[10:26] <magnetron> we are here, valchers
[10:26] <thijs> oke
[10:26] <thijs> wat is it
[10:26] <thijs> server or desktop
[10:27] <Cyber_Stalker> is it possible for java applications to run?
[10:27] <Cyber_Stalker> like mpowerplayer
[10:27] <Cyber_Stalker> !java
[10:27] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:27] <thijs> yes
[10:27] <thijs> oke :D
[10:27] <Cyber_Stalker> :D
[10:27] <Cyber_Stalker> will be right back on ubuntu
[10:27] <valchers> why a cant instal ubuntu,I have this - .MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC"....
[10:27] <Ademan> anyone here use apache ant?
[10:28] <lgc> Hi! What's the file dpkg has its list of installed packages?
[10:28] <RahuL^_> hjghgh
[10:28] <RahuL^_> bvbvb
[10:28] <RahuL^_> bnbn
[10:28] <magnetron> hi RahuL^_
[10:29] <Kawika> yellow_chicken: Aloha
[10:29] <Poz> any one use vmware ?
[10:30] <blowfish> yes
[10:30] <TiMiDo> Kawika, where you fromm
[10:30] <blowfish> dutch
[10:30] <Kawika> TiMiDo: Big Island
[10:30] <TiMiDo> hawaii?
[10:30] <blowfish> :D
[10:30] <Kawika> TiMiDo: yes
[10:30] <blowfish> cool
[10:30] <lgc> Hi! What's the file dpkg has its list of installed packages?
[10:30] <blowfish> apt-get list ?
[10:30] <TiMiDo> Kawika, is Israel Iz KAMAKAWIWO:ole dead/
[10:31] <Kawika> TiMiDo: yes, unfortunately.
[10:31] <TiMiDo> whe did he die?
[10:31] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: all right lets see how this goes.. i installed ktorrent since add/remove and synaptiocs couldn't find deluge.... seems to have started really well
[10:31] <lgc> Hi! I mean: What's the name of the file dpkg has its list of installed packages?
[10:31] <Ominous> hey, how do you mount a usb key drive in terminal as i have managed to remove the gui loading somehow so only have terminal login etc and i need to back up some files before a reinstall
[10:32] <yellow_chicken> Kawika: aloha
[10:32] <yellow_chicken> Poz: i do
[10:32] <Cyber_Stalker> !java
[10:32] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:32] <TiMiDo> he was a good singer.
[10:32] <Kawika> TiMiDo: June 97
[10:32] <TiMiDo> Kawika, why did he die?
[10:32] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: btw do you have any idea where to find a launcher file so that i can edid some thing in properties without having to add it to my dock?
[10:32] <TiMiDo> i mean how come. was he sick?
[10:32] <Kawika> TiMiDo: respiratory failure... he was a big boy
[10:32] <lgc> Ominous, man pmount
[10:33] <TiMiDo> yeah i know
[10:33] <magnetron> !deluge > jayde_drag0n  (read private message for instructions for deluge)
[10:33] <TiMiDo> i just saw a video from him
[10:33] <yellow_chicken> Kawika: it's so hot
[10:33] <Kawika> Poz, I just installed vmware and WinXp on Edubuntu
[10:33] <Cyber_Stalker> !multiverse
[10:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:33] <fdaf> i'm about to install kubuntu in vmware/windows
[10:33] <Poz> what do you run in vmware kawika
[10:33] <Cyber_Stalker> grrr
[10:33] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: you can easily create a launcher by right clicking on the desktop
[10:33] <Kawika> Poz: I needed to run IE6 and test a web page
[10:34] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: ktorrent is screaming.. i'm not seeing windows speeds yet.. but these are speeds i can live with
[10:34] <Poz> i hve a visual studio disk can i intall that or run it through vmware
[10:34] <Kawika> Poz: you can try installing it.  Speed will be the only factor
[10:34] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: the speed will vary with the quality of the seeders, not the OS
[10:34] <Poz> :( so it will be slow
[10:34] <cyberphaz> whats the easiest way to share something between windows in vmware and my ubuntu? samba?
[10:35] <Kawika> yellow_chicken: it is hot.  we have a storm passing the island tonight.. so maybe rain
[10:35] <magnetron> Kawika: have you tried ies4linux?
[10:35] <fdaf> samba is a joke
[10:35] <TiMiDo> Kawika, is hawaii nice'?
[10:35] <fdaf> i never get samba to work properly
[10:35] <yellow_chicken> Kawika: yes, that's what i heard on the NEWS
[10:35] <magnetron> !samba | fdaf
[10:35] <ubotu> fdaf: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:35] <Frogzoo> cyberphaz: samba
[10:35] <cyberphaz> ok
[10:35] <Kawika> magnetron: I did try ies4linux.  There's a realtor site for a client that HAS to have the real IE.
[10:35] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: well i know that but reliably for the past year on every tvshow i've downloaded except maby 2.. and thats not an exageration i've gotten my shows in about 15 minutes... i only let one run at a time and i usually see over 100.. usually at 200
[10:35] <Fer_re> hi all!
[10:36] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: there itr goes!!!! one at 90 one at 128
[10:36] <sauvin> I tend to eschew any site that *requires* IE.
[10:36] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: rockin
[10:36] <magnetron> congrats, jayde_drag0n
[10:36] <Kawika> TiMiDo: it is nice here.  Getting a bit more crowded, but it's survivable :-)
[10:36] <warty> hello
[10:36] <chowmeined> sites still require IE?
[10:36] <chowmeined> thats insane
[10:36] <Fer_re> bye
[10:36] <Kawika> sauvin: I do as well.  The front end of the site works, but the realtor backend will only work on IE
[10:37] <chowmeined> theres only 1000 people :(
[10:37] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: did you see my other question?
[10:37] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: no
[10:37] <Cyber_Stalker> so multiverse is already enabled on fiesty?
[10:37] <fdaf> how can there be so many pppl
[10:37] <fdaf> crazy
[10:37] <fdaf> how many ppl see my typing lol
[10:37] <sauvin> Cyber_Stalker, all the repos were enabled by default on my feisty immediately after install.
[10:38] <Salmon_Maki> 1010 fdaf, so make sure whatever you say is interesting. :P
[10:38] <fdaf> ahahaha
[10:38] <magnetron> fdaf: we all do, keep your questions on one line please
[10:38] <Cyber_Stalker> yes it seems to be the same with me
[10:38] <fdaf> u kicw
[10:38] <fdaf> i love my audience
[10:38] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: i added kdocker because i like things to goto the taskbar.. but i can only see the properties if i add them to the panel from the menu... i'd like to edit their properties natively so that i can clear the panel and just launch from the menu.... but i don't know where the file (excuse me windows term) exe is located in the system so i can edit its properties
[10:38] <Cyber_Stalker> and supposedly "free java" should be installed...
[10:38] <Poz> 1 more ? is file zilla worth using or a waste of time ?
[10:38] <fdaf> will you support and help me if i install kubuntu in vmware with windows xp as host?
[10:39] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: i have never used kdocker
[10:39] <olopa> #debian-se
[10:39] <magnetron> fdaf: we are all volunteers
[10:39] <desper> any one can help me regarding evolution problem?
[10:39] <magnetron> !ask | desper
[10:39] <ubotu> desper: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:39] <fdaf> nothing better to do rather
[10:40] <fdaf> just kidding
[10:40] <magnetron> !enter | fdaf
[10:40] <ubotu> fdaf: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:40] <fotoflo> arg - i just got my windows laptop back from HP's Goldstar service --- they reinstalled all their bloatware!
[10:40] <fdaf> ok.
[10:40] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: you don't have to to answer my question.. but all i have to do is open properties... and where it says command.. enter kdocker in front of it... but i can only see properties if i put them in the panel.. and i don't want a cluttered bar... so oo... how do i find the place where the file is launching from so i can edit the properties?
[10:40] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: search provided me with nothing
[10:41] <fotoflo> ive spent the last hour uninstalling programs one by one
[10:41] <fdaf> hehe fotoflo
[10:41] <desper> In evolution when iam downloading attachment and want to save it show's the ASCII character's in the file name ??
[10:41] <fdaf> fotoflo, what are you uninstalling?
[10:41] <Kawika> fotoflo: should have gone with the silver service.  They wouldn't have bothered...hehe
[10:41] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: like where in my computer is rythmbox located?
[10:41] <fotoflo> at least they should allow you to queue up programs for removal
[10:42] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: i don't really understand your question, but you can easily create a launcher in gnome by righclicking the desktop and choose new starter. most apps are located in /bin or /usr/bin
[10:42] <fdaf> is it possible to install debian etch first, then change repos to ubuntu, and update and distupgrade to install ubuntu?
[10:42] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: think of windows for a second... cuz i don't know how else to explain it... things are linstalled to c:program files/foldername/file.exe
[10:42] <fotoflo> right now im uninstalling 20 odd "games", all between 9 and 300MB - all with terrible graphics and boring game play\
[10:43] <magnetron> fdaf: if it is, don't expect anyone here to give support for your system
[10:43] <desper> In evolution when iam downloading attachment and want to save, it show's the ASCII/special character's in the file name ?? ie. my file.odt its came my%file.odt
[10:43] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: in ubuntu are they filesystem/bin/foldername/program?? or what?
[10:43] <fotoflo> there was a 300 MB driving game with one car (unless you bought ti) and one track and the car went 0 to 60 in like 10.4 seconds
[10:43] <Cyber_Stalker> has any one got mpowerplayer working on java ?
[10:43] <eps> fdaf, that really wouldn't be a good idea :P
[10:43] <fdaf> magnetron, my question is, is it?
[10:43] <fotoflo> Office 2003 Trial edition
[10:43] <eps> fdaf, yes it is possible; but you wouldn't get a working system out of it ^_^
[10:43] <ziroday> fdaf: im interested :0
[10:43] <fotoflo> MS works
[10:44] <dbft> dbft@jonny-desk:~/virtual-drives/1$ sh setup.sh
[10:44] <dbft> Loki Update Tool not found, running installation program
[10:44] <dbft> dbft@jonny-desk:~/virtual-drives/1$ sudo sh setup.sh
[10:44] <dbft> sh: Can't open setup.sh
[10:44] <dbft> why does that happen?
[10:44] <fotoflo> norton internet theft
[10:44] <fotoflo> err i mean securty
[10:44] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: look in /usr/bin
[10:44] <desper> In evolution when iam downloading attachment and want to save, it show's the ASCII/special character's in the file name ?? ie. my file.odt its came my%file.odt
[10:44] <ziroday> dbft: do sudo ./setup.sh
[10:44] <Kawika> fotoflo: theft of all your processing power
[10:44] <dbft> command not found
[10:44] <ziroday> desper: yes as this is how it is relayed over the internet
[10:44] <ziroday> dbft: you must make setup.sh executable
[10:45] <fdaf> install debian etch first, then change repos to ubuntu, and update and distupgrade to install ubuntu <-- i think it will work
[10:45] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: THATS what i needed!!! thank you!!!
[10:45] <fdaf> why not everyone try it in vmware
[10:45] <fotoflo> "polar bowler"
[10:45] <fdaf> i want to see % of success
[10:45] <ziroday> fdaf: i dont have that much spare time
[10:45] <desper> ziroday: sorry i did't understand what u want to ask?
[10:45] <fotoflo> qucken and microsoft money
[10:45] <cyberphaz> do i need to install samba even if i only want to contact my windows from my ubuntu? wouldnt a client be enough?
[10:46] <Enselic> !touchpa
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <Enselic> !touchpad
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <fdaf> ziroday, but you have spare time to irc?
[10:46] <degreseven> my boot partition is too small & i am unable to upgrade kernel. can i use gparted to increase the size of my boot partition & decrease the size of my root partition without destroying my data?
[10:46] <Cyber_Stalker> cyberphaz, do you just want to access a ntfs partion?
[10:46] <Cyber_Stalker> partition**
[10:46] <ziroday> desper: i was saying the % is there because that is how it looks to the computers over the internet
[10:46] <eps> fdaf, the low level things like kernel and methods debian uses to update scripts would break between the two distros.  I think if you put enought effort into it it would work but the resulting system would be unstable and broken :/ ...why are you interested in trying it?
[10:46] <Enselic> I have a touchpad that is not working, should lspci give me one if I want to have a chance of getting it to work?
[10:46] <Cyber_Stalker> as in access your windows drive from your ubuntu install...?
[10:46] <ziroday> fdaf: no im meant to be listening to the teacher and working :)
[10:46] <cyberphaz> cyber_stalker yes i want to be able to write data to a windows drive from my ubuntu...one way only
[10:46] <cyberphaz> via windows shares...
[10:47] <Cyber_Stalker> is the drive local?
[10:47] <fdaf> soon i'll be running kubuntu in vmware, hahaha
[10:47] <cyberphaz> vmware cyber_stalker
[10:47] <haseeb> anyone successfully installed ubuntu 7.04 on Microsoft Virtual PC 2007? I seeing stops during setup (specially during io) - where setup stops making progress...
[10:47] <Cyber_Stalker> or on another machine one the network
[10:47] <magnetron> fdaf: we are volunteers, but we will not do everything you ask us too. just install ubuntu and we will be interested in helping you
[10:47] <fdaf> what if i install kubuntu? no help for me?
[10:47] <cyberphaz> i can access my local ntfs partitions already, the windows box runs in vmware
[10:47] <eps> none
[10:47] <eps> we have kde
[10:47] <eps> hate* :P
[10:47] <fdaf> do i get help if i install xbuntu?
[10:47] <eps> yes
[10:47] <magnetron> haseeb: for msvpc, you need the alternate ubuntu install cd i think
[10:47] <ziroday> fdaf: yes at #kubuntu
[10:47] <Cyber_Stalker> heh, best bet would be setting up samba... the way i used to do it before i dual booted was setting up and ftp server on my ubuntu :D lol used to ftp files across
[10:47] <eps> because it's logo is cute
[10:48] <cyberphaz> lol
[10:48] <cyberphaz> that would work
[10:48] <cyberphaz> and be a lot easier i guess
[10:48] <fdaf> really? you have kde? what did kde do to you?
[10:48] <Cyber_Stalker> yea lol thats why i did it :D
[10:48] <fdaf> hate
[10:48] <fdaf> i mean
[10:48] <magnetron> fotoflo, haiku OS ftw
[10:48] <cyberphaz> thanks for the idea
[10:48] <Scottrix> hey everyone
[10:48] <Cyber_Stalker> just check synaptic for ftp :D and install one and then u do like minimal config since you will be the only one accessing it
[10:48] <eps> I used to use kde 'back in the day' but gnome got good and I've been using that.  I'll switch over to kde when 4 preview comes out in a few weeks
[10:48] <haseeb> magnetron : which one is that? I downloaded ubuntu-7.04-server-i386.iso ...?
[10:48] <cyberphaz> yep thanks again
[10:49] <magnetron> !alternate | haseeb
[10:49] <ubotu> haseeb: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[10:49] <riaal> I have VNC set up to my server but its kind of slow, can I just remote the terminal somehow? SSH? Telnet?
[10:49] <fdaf> gnome got good really? gnome is ugly though
[10:49] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, perhaps you can help me...
[10:49] <ziroday> riaal: yes
[10:49] <haseeb> !Minimal
[10:49] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[10:49] <fdaf> for me, gnome is crash-prone
[10:49] <desper> ziroday: Ok i got but is there any way or any patch for evolution to decode that ??
[10:49] <haseeb> !Alternate
[10:49] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[10:49] <ziroday> desper: no that i am aware of
[10:50] <riaal> ziroday, yes what and is it hard?
[10:50] <ziroday> riaal: no not really
[10:50] <valchers> am.. then i want install ubuntu 7.04 64 but then i have this - Kernel direct mapping tables up to 100000000@8000-d000
[10:50] <ziroday> !ssh | riaal
[10:50] <ubotu> riaal: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:50] <Scottrix> can anyone here possible help me with playing a DVD ISO under ubuntu?
[10:50] <desper> ziroday: should i download the source and than try to edit that ??
[10:50] <fdaf> vmware is so huge, 300mb almost like an os
[10:50] <valchers> how can i install
[10:50] <valchers> ?
[10:50] <magnetron> !dvd | Scottrix
[10:50] <ubotu> Scottrix: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:50] <ziroday> desper: strongly not recommended
[10:50] <riaal> ziroday, cheers
[10:50] <magnetron> !install | valchers
[10:50] <ubotu> valchers: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:51] <fdaf> i have ubuntu 7.04 dvd :)
[10:51] <Cyber_Stalker> lgc, what you need help with ?
[10:51] <desper> ziroday: you know some one who can help me out ?
[10:51] <Scottrix> thanks magnetron and ubotu
[10:51] <ziroday> desper: #evolution
[10:51] <ziroday> ubotu is a bot Scottrix
[10:51] <Cyber_Stalker> :D
[10:51] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, I need to know where does dpkg keeps the list of installed packages so I can manually pick out a bogus entry.
[10:51] <fdaf> hhahaha
[10:52] <fdaf> hey what's your vmware version in ubuntu?
[10:52] <desper> ziroday: there is now one in that room just me :)
[10:52] <Cyber_Stalker> !dpkg
[10:52] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[10:52] <Cyber_Stalker> hmm
[10:52] <fdaf> mine is vmware 6
[10:52] <Cyber_Stalker> sec
[10:52] <Cyber_Stalker> im new to ubuntu :D
[10:52] <ziroday> desper: lemme go find there irc channel gimme a min
[10:52] <fdaf> what's your vmware version?
[10:52] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: perfect!!!!
[10:52] <Newbie_Dude> If you guys wanna chat try #ubuntu-offtopic as not to interfere with those that have questions. :)
[10:52] <desper> ziroday okz thx
[10:53] <fdaf> there's nobody needs help anyway
[10:53] <ziroday> desper: sorry its #evolution on gimp net not freenode
[10:53] <fdaf> why you want this channel to be muted?
[10:53] <magnetron> !offtopic | fdaf
[10:53] <ubotu> fdaf: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:53] <Cyber_Stalker> lgc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=498879&highlight=dpkg%2Bpackage+lists
[10:53] <fdaf> but we need more ppl talking, off or on topic
[10:53] <Cyber_Stalker> that might help you but im not too sure
[10:53] <fdaf> it's better than a dead channel
[10:53] <ziroday> fdaf: please go to offtopic
[10:54] <fdaf> ppl will start leaving if nobody ask for help, and nobody talks
[10:54] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, let me check, thanks.
[10:54] <magnetron> fdaf: stop it
[10:54] <ziroday> fdaf: this is ONLY a SUPPORT channel
[10:54] <fdaf> we've been helping and helping whole week, can we have two days off?
[10:54] <ziroday> fdaf: yes on #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:54] <magnetron> fdaf, yes, in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:54] <fdaf> just my 2 cents to this channel
[10:54] <desper> ziroday: im going there to find out
[10:54] <desper> any ways thanks alot :)
[10:55] <ziroday> desper: no prob sorry i couldnt help you anymore  :)
[10:55] <fdaf> ithink vmware tools come for ubuntu?
[10:55] <sport> anyone know if the tcp/udp connection aka the transport layer comes after or before the application protocols ??
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> lgc,  what is your problem more specifically is apt-get broken because of this bogus package? etc...?
[10:56] <magnetron> sport: the application layer is the top layer
[10:56] <jayde_drag0n> thank you thank you thanl you to everyone who helped me... ktorrent is working beautifully... and now my audtodocker is working exactly how i want it!!!
[10:56] <ziroday> jayde_drag0n: glad you like ktorrent
[10:57] <MajorPayne> Goodnight everyone.
[10:57] <jayde_drag0n> god i love this chat room.. you people have been incredibly helpful and except for one person... crazily nice and responsive
[10:57] <sport> magnetron: are the layers in order of time tho or in order of .... well time makes the most sense but something else
[10:57] <fdaf> yep that's what we are, jayde_drag0n please come again with more questins
[10:57] <sport> bye major thx for the help
[10:58] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, yep. I just finished upgrading to Edgy and aptitude reports an error upgrading k3b.
[10:58] <sauvin> I know this place really got my ubuntu install rocking. I, too, am grateful, but now it's bedtime. Nighters!
[10:58] <jayde_drag0n> fdaf: oh inevitably i will... just be glad i learn super fast
[10:58] <fdaf> me too! i want to thank everyone who has helped me!
[10:58] <Cyber_Stalker> 1 second :D
[10:58] <fdaf> my thank goes to magnetron's on-topic help line
[10:58] <ziroday> fdaf: please
[10:59] <magnetron> sport: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model   the order of the layer has nothing to do with chronology
[10:59] <fdaf> greatest channel i ever joined!
[10:59] <PriceChild> Ok fdaf. Please cease the offtopic chatter. No more.
[10:59] <fdaf> it just makes me more and more likes ubuntu
[10:59] <fdaf> ??
[10:59] <toed> is there a way to search for a string inside a number of files with nautilus?
[10:59] <redadvisorry> hello
[10:59] <ziroday> PriceChild: thank you
[10:59] <PriceChild> fdaf, we appreciate your appreciation, but lets leave it at that please :)
[10:59] <fdaf> ok!
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> lgc, is it a libc6 error?
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> www.rafb.net/paste
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> paste the error
[11:00] <lgc> fdaf, but NEVER mention four-letter words here!
[11:00] <fdaf> thanks for appreciation for my appreciation before. i appreciate it, PriceChild
[11:00] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, no, it's a dpkg error.
[11:01] <Cyber_Stalker> still paste the error and i might be able to help a little more
[11:01] <kraut> moin
[11:01] <jayde_drag0n> one random off topic(sorta)   NEAT i just found out you can set the bars at the top and bottom to hide with the click of an arrow!!!.. i feel like a kid
[11:02] <jayde_drag0n> thanks.. gnite!!!
[11:02] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, it says: broken pipe. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1).
[11:05] <Cyber_Stalker> lgc, i cant find an error that seems to be specific to your problem. but i can offer you this link http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=24059578
[11:05] <Cyber_Stalker> and hopefully you will be able to resolve the issue
[11:05] <HEP85> how can I select a folder in Konqueror?
[11:05] <Gaming1> Is there a way to know what codecs or plugins are installed for mplayer?
[11:05] <desper> Some one know's about Evolution attachment Problems
[11:06] <desper> ?
[11:06] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, I'm afraid I'll have to leave it for a better time. It's 4 A.M. here and I need to be back up at 6 for a long trip. Sorry I have to dash out like this. I appreciate your help and time. Farewell now...till next time.
[11:06] <ziroday> desper: no luck in #evolution ?
[11:06] <jafnoob> How do I change ubuntu logo at the program menu?
[11:06] <desper> ziroday: yes i think all are sleeping there
[11:06] <ziroday> desper: sorry, is a occasional % that bad?
[11:07] <Cyber_Stalker> could some one help me quickly...
[11:07] <Cyber_Stalker> cyber@cyber:~/Desktop$ java index.jnlp
[11:07] <Cyber_Stalker> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: index/jnlp
[11:07] <desper> yes
[11:08] <ziroday> jafnoob: go to /home/<user name>/.icons/<current icon set> and put in a file named distributor with the logo you wnat
[11:08] <ziroday> jafnoob: i thinki
[11:08] <Gaming1> Guys, Is there a way to know what codecs and plugins have been installed in Ubunt?
[11:09] <NETWizz> Want to see a screenshot
[11:09] <NETWizz> of Linux
[11:10] <Cyber_Stalker> NETWizz, you want to see a screen shot of some ones linux?
[11:10] <NETWizz> yeah
[11:10] <jafnoob> ziroday, I did change all start-here and distributor-logo icon images searching for png or svg in those dirs and no ubuntu logo pops up but it's still in the menu
[11:10] <Cyber_Stalker> NETWizz, give me a second
[11:11] <NETWizz> http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotlc3.png
[11:12] <jafnoob> ziroday, ok fixed it, had to remove the cache file :)
[11:12] <NETWizz> Did anyone view my file
[11:12] <Cyber_Stalker> NETWizz, cyber@cyber:~/Desktop$ java index.jnlp
[11:12] <Cyber_Stalker> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: index/jnlp
[11:12] <Cyber_Stalker> oops
[11:12] <alsuren> how can I get debugging symbols for amarok? It's gone into an infinite loop, and I want to know why
[11:12] <Cyber_Stalker> http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/speedhead/LinuxDesktop.png
[11:12] <magnetron> yes, it was nice. show it to the people in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:13] <palmira> Hi everyone... do you have an idea why I cannot connect to UnderNet?
[11:13] <NETWizz> What is up with the green look
[11:13] <NETWizz> I would say bad monitor, but then the screenshot would look correct to me
[11:13] <Cyber_Stalker> lets go to #off-topic
[11:14] <MikeRotch> das cool
[11:15] <riaal> I have 2 folders like /sda1/download and /sdb1/music that I want to share over the network whit NFS, The ting is I want them to be shared in the sama folder so I just have to mount ones on the remote machine, is this possible?
[11:16] <SoulPropagation> make a symlink for one in the other =)
[11:16] <riaal> how does symlink work?
[11:16] <gD|Lukemob> Does anyone have a knowledges with ISPConfig?
[11:16] <SoulPropagation> alsuren: What's your question
[11:16] <alsuren>  <alsuren> how can I get debugging symbols for amarok? It's gone into an infinite loop, and I want to know why
[11:16] <gD|Lukemob> Good morning, by the way. :-)
[11:17] <SoulPropagation> riaal: you can find out information in the help file, run man ln in a terminal.
[11:17] <yogurtron> I'm trying to connect to the WiTilt v2.5 board for acceleration data.  I've gotten the hcitool to see my device and connect to it, however I am having trouble actually DOING anything with it.  I've been looking around and have yet to find out where the "sudo hidd --connect aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff" actually connects to, so I can tell the gtkterm program to read it.
[11:17] <cyberphaz> hmm odd i can access my other windows pc using smbfs but not my vmware windows share
[11:17] <yogurtron> So suffice it to say, how do I get a serial text interface to a bluetooth device?
[11:17] <cyberphaz> it sees the vmware windows pc as shared, but when i try access it it says failed
[11:18] <cyberphaz> anyone got a clue?
[11:18] <SoulPropagation> alsuren: amarok -d?
[11:19] <SoulPropagation> Why am I getting the "Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated" error?
[11:20] <SoulPropagation> alsuren: Just guessing here
[11:20] <Gaming1> Is there any package which keeps ubuntu clean, I mean remove temporary data etc
[11:21] <yogurtron> anybody know anything about bluetooth devices, specifically text interfaces to them?
[11:21] <tarzeau> Gaming1: that'd done on reboots for /tmp and it can be configured
[11:21] <tarzeau> Gaming1: for /var/tmp it's up the to administrator
[11:21] <tarzeau> Gaming1: likewise for processes (unless they are zombies)
[11:22] <SoulPropagation> yogurtron: No, do you know anything about bluetooth profiles?
[11:22] <tarzeau> Gaming1: of course picking your software carefully can avoid all the cleanup mess
[11:23] <Newbie_Dude> Gaming1: there's a thread about removing unneeded stuff, lemme find the link
[11:23] <magnetron> yogurtron: the bluetooth stack for linux is called bluez
[11:23] <alsuren> SoulPropagation: oh. Fair enough. No. I'm running it in kdbg and it's not finding any debugging symbols. Gentoo lets you put debugging symbols into /usr/libdebug, but ubuntu just doesn't seem to provide them
[11:24] <Newbie_Dude> Gaming1: "HOWTO cleanup unnecessary junk files -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140920
[11:24] <SoulPropagation> alsuren: Way over my head :p
[11:24] <alsuren> thanks anyway
[11:24] <Gaming1> thanks
[11:24] <yogurtron> magnetron:  I do have bluez installed, but I've not been able to find many good pieces of documentation to tell me how to interface with a bluetooth device.
[11:24] <metbsd> 10G enough for kubuntu?
[11:25] <riaal> I have 2 folders like /sda1/download and /sdb1/music that I want to share over the network whit NFS, The ting is I want them to be shared in the sama folder so I just have to mount ones on the remote machine, is this possible?
[11:25] <riaal> I have made links whit ls -s and when they are mounted they appears as broken links
[11:25] <riaal> ln -s*
[11:25] <SoulPropagation> riaal: no idea then
[11:26] <Gaming1> I have a pretty old IBM laptop, Thinkpad 600 533 Mhz and 128 mb ram to be precise, Can I install Ubuntu on it?
[11:26] <magnetron> yogurtron: try man hcitool   man hciconfig
[11:27] <Daniel_Kyo> Phill?
[11:27] <tarzeau> Gaming1: 128mb might be a bit slow
[11:27] <tarzeau> Gaming1: i'd run another linux on that
[11:27] <SoulPropagation> Gaming1: look at xubunti
[11:27] <SoulPropagation> xubuntu
[11:27] <SoulPropagation> *
[11:27] <alsuren> metbsd: if you can spare 20GB, then your life will be easier
[11:27] <riaal> Anyone know a way to share different hard disks in the same folder?
[11:28] <magnetron> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_600 Gaming1
[11:28] <metbsd> thatps raid, riaal
[11:28] <Enselic> !cd
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <Enselic> !cdwriter
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdwriter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <SoulPropagation> Why am I getting the "Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated" error?
[11:28] <desper> Any One works on SunRay Ubuntu
[11:28] <desper> ?
[11:28] <riaal> metbsd, thats to complicated
[11:28] <Enselic> SoulPropagation: is the kernel compiled with support for it?
[11:29] <yogurtron> magnetron:  heh, tried man hci, but that didn't do it, but those seem to be loading what should help.  Thank you
[11:29] <Daniel_Kyo> i want Pill
[11:29] <SoulPropagation> Enselic: How do I find out?
[11:29] <riaal> metbsd, I can just share allt the folders that I want and mount them in one folder on the remote machine but thats really much work for every now machine
[11:29] <Gaming1> I have still not got hang of how to install a package after I have downloaded it...
[11:29] <Cyber_Stalker> yogurtron, man is for manual :
[11:29] <SoulPropagation> Gaming1: sudo apt-get install YOURPACKAGE
[11:30] <Cyber_Stalker> so it wasnt ment to fix it but direct youto the manual pages :
[11:30] <Enselic> SoulPropagation: don't know, sorry
[11:30] <SoulPropagation> Enselic: I just followed the instructions lol
[11:30] <metbsd> no one even know what  you mean , except me
[11:30] <slytherin> Does anyone know how to install Ubuntu from hard disk instead of CD?
[11:30] <reverseblade> slytherin, what does rely on harddisk ?
[11:30] <Daniel_Kyo> ubuntu is very easy, but is slow and heavy
[11:31] <magnetron> !install | slytherin
[11:31] <ubotu> slytherin: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:31] <Daniel_Kyo> Slyntherin?
[11:31] <Daniel_Kyo> hauhua Sonserina?
[11:31] <slytherin> reverseblade: Want to install in office. The CD that sysads gave me is corrupt.
[11:31] <Daniel_Kyo> HArry POtter
[11:31] <Otacon22> how can i flush up dns ttl cache?
[11:31] <Daniel_Kyo> hehe
[11:31] <Gaming1> I am trying to install something and it says "su: authentication failure"
[11:31] <magnetron> Daniel_Kyo: that's not a support question
[11:31] <reverseblade> slytherin, why don't you re-download it ?
[11:32] <Daniel_Kyo> i want Pill
[11:32] <magnetron> Gaming1: don't use su, use sudo or sudo -i
[11:32] <slytherin> reverseblade: I can but won't be able to burn the ISO. No writer in machine and we are not allowed external devices. :-)
[11:32] <magnetron> !sudo | Gaming1
[11:32] <ubotu> Gaming1: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:32] <alsuren> riaal: mount --rbind olddir newdir (from man mount)
[11:32] <Daniel_Kyo> what is slymtherin (IN BRAZIL SLYTERIN= SONSERINA)
[11:33] <reverseblade> slytherin, but you are allowed to install new OS ? non-sense
[11:33] <Gaming1> I am trying to install tovid, I have configured the package now it asks me to type "su -c "make install""
[11:33] <slytherin> reverseblade: Weird policies. Can't help.
[11:33] <SoulPropagation> What's the difference between sudo -i and su anyway
[11:33] <desper> SunRay Ubuntu
[11:33] <reverseblade> slytherin, check the above link given then
[11:33] <desper> any one knows about SunRay Ubuntu
[11:33] <desper> ?
[11:33] <slytherin> reverseblade: Doing the same
[11:34] <metbsd> sudo gives you less chance of rm -fr /
[11:34] <SoulPropagation> nice metbsd :p
[11:34] <magnetron> SoulPropagation: sudo give you root priviligies. su make you root
[11:34] <riaal> alsuren,  Don't understand? sounds good thow
[11:34] <SoulPropagation> magnetron: sudo -i not sudo
[11:35] <Daniel_Kyo> hello! Is channel is not brazilian?
[11:35] <magnetron> SoulPropagation: sudo -i give you a shell, sudo just runs one command as administrator
[11:35] <magnetron> !br | Daniel_Kyo
[11:35] <Daniel_Kyo> OWNED for me!
[11:35] <ubotu> Daniel_Kyo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:35] <metbsd> !br
[11:35] <SoulPropagation> magnetron: I'm asking the difference between sudo -i and su
[11:35] <magnetron> SoulPropagation: sudo -i give you root priviligies. su make you root
[11:35] <Imhil> !tr
[11:35] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:35] <desper> utinstall: fatal, error in the module M00SunRay_first (event Init).
[11:35] <desper> /bin/ls: /opt/SUNWut/sbin/../GDM_2.4.4.7.2/Linux/Packages/gdm-2.4.4.7.2-?*.i386.rpm: No such file or directory
[11:35] <metbsd> !cn
[11:35] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[11:35] <desper> utinstall: fatal, error in the module M00SunRay_first (event Init).
[11:35] <desper> /bin/ls: /opt/SUNWut/sbin/../GDM_2.4.4.7.2/Linux/Packages/gdm-2.4.4.7.2-?*.i386.rpm: No such file or directory
[11:36] <metbsd> !jp
[11:36] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[11:36] <desper> utinstall: fatal, error in the module M00SunRay_first (event Init).
[11:36] <SoulPropagation> magnetron: gotcha
[11:36] <desper> /bin/ls: /opt/SUNWut/sbin/../GDM_2.4.4.7.2/Linux/Packages/gdm-2.4.4.7.2-?*.i386.rpm: No such file or directory
[11:36] <magnetron> !paste > desper
[11:36] <desper> helo
[11:36] <desper> help
[11:36] <Daniel_Kyo> #ubuntu-pt
[11:36] <SoulPropagation> !paste > me
[11:36] <SoulPropagation> Darn, they didn't update it
[11:37] <Daniel_Kyo> thanx
[11:37] <Daniel_Kyo> Bye
[11:37] <Daniel_Kyo> I love GNU/LINUX
[11:37] <metbsd> i'm installing kubuntu
[11:37] <metbsd> shut up Daniel_Kyo
[11:37] <Daniel_Kyo> Kubuntu is very unstable
[11:37] <metbsd> what do you know about gnu/linux
[11:38] <alsuren> riaal: use "mount --bind <arguments>" where you would have used "ln -s <arguments>", and it will avoid your broken links problem
[11:38] <metbsd> less crash-prone than gnome
[11:38] <Daniel_Kyo> Use Xubuntu, fluxbuntu, Ubuntu
[11:38] <metbsd> use kubuntu
[11:38] <FeistyNux> I use Ubuntu ^_^
[11:38] <metbsd> use buntu
[11:38] <alsuren> riaal: read man mount for more information.
[11:39] <metbsd> buntu is ubuntu without gnome
[11:39] <Daniel_Kyo> without gnome?
[11:39] <metbsd> is there ubuntu without gnome?
[11:39] <FeistyNux> I imagine no.
[11:39] <metbsd> so i can install icewm on it
[11:40] <EvilBro> This is driving me insane: How do you change the icon size on toolbars in ubuntu?
[11:40] <magnetron> metbsd: yes, ubuntu server or kubuntu or xubuntu
[11:40] <FeistyNux> ah. well there you go.
[11:40] <metbsd> ubuntu server has no gnome? server refers to x server?
[11:41] <alsuren> metbsd: or you can do a debootstrap install, which gives you the equivalent of a server install, but is more fun :P
[11:41] <magnetron> metbsd: ubuntu server refers to no desktop system
[11:41] <HEP85> EvilBro: Change the size of the toolbar
[11:41] <metbsd> isn't ubuntu server the debian sid?
[11:42] <EvilBro> HEP85: okay, how do I do that?
[11:42] <HEP85> EvilBro: Rightclick --> Preferences
[11:42] <desper> utconfig: fatal, Sun Ray Data store 2.2 is not installed on this host ??
[11:42] <magnetron> metbsd: no, ubuntu server is ubuntu server
[11:42] <desper> help : utconfig: fatal, Sun Ray Data store 2.2 is not installed on this host
[11:42] <metbsd> what's the diff between ubuntu server and debian sid
[11:43] <magnetron> !debian | metbsd
[11:43] <ubotu> metbsd: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[11:43] <EvilBro> HEP85: Right click on what? a toolbar?
[11:43] <HEP85> EvilBro: Yes. BTW: I'm talking about gnome. for KDE I don't know how it goes, but it shouldn't be that hard either
[11:43] <metbsd> oh they are related, cool
[11:44] <metbsd> i thought ubuntu is derivitive of debian
[11:44] <mind_shift> Is there a panel app that works like a fast shortcut to a directory? When I click on it, a menu with files that are within a directory appears.
[11:44] <Farva> :/
[11:44] <EvilBro> Hep85: I've tried that (I am on gnome btw), but it either doesn't do anything or I only get the option to 'customize toolbar' (which doesn't contain a size option)... Am on Ubuntu 7.04
[11:44] <magnetron> metbsd: that's their relation
[11:44] <marco> anyone can help me to correctly install the ati driver for 7.04???
[11:44] <danya> can someone help me with installing photoshop using wine ?
[11:44] <desper> utconfig: fatal, Sun Ray Data store 2.2 is not installed on this host
[11:45] <desper> utconfig: fatal, Sun Ray Data store 2.2 is not installed on this host?
[11:45] <mind_shift> ask about a specific problem, not ask us to be your servaints
[11:46] <Farva> Can someone help me install Debian on a box less than 4 years old without jumping through x hoops to get it working on a fresh install?
[11:47] <HEP85> EvilBro: Oh. You don't mean the gnome-panel, but a toolbar in some application, I suppose
[11:47] <EvilBro> Hep85: Yes
[11:47] <marco> is there any guidelines that i must be aware of? im new to ubuntu and to this channel and i dont want to sound like an ass :$
[11:47] <pawan> hi
[11:47] <pawan> any equilizer player for ubuntu
[11:47] <pawan> to play mp3 files
[11:48] <alsuren> Farva: why are you asking about debian in #ubuntu?
[11:48] <yogurtron> Well, I looked through the manuals people suggested, and I'm still pretty confused.  hcitool itself doesn't seem have the ability to connect except for singular commands, and when i connect via hidd, and then do a hidd --show, it won't display anything.
[11:48] <EvilBro> Hep85: Why the panel and the toolbar don't have a similar behaviour is a mystery to me... that is of course a seperate issue. :)
[11:48] <tarzeau> pawan: opencubicplayer
[11:48] <HEP85> EvilBro: I think then it is up to the application you are using
[11:49] <alsuren> marco: check the links in the channel title
[11:49] <pawan> how to open cubicplayer
[11:49] <tarzeau> pawan: ocp in a shell
[11:49] <tarzeau> pawan: configure the .ocp/ocp.ini (if you want graphics output)
[11:49] <pawan> terminal
[11:49] <tarzeau> pawan: yes in a terminal
[11:50] <EvilBro> Hep85: app in question: ephipany. However I was under the impression that Gnome applications should have a global setting... was this incorrecT?
[11:50] <pawan> ya i want graphics output
[11:50] <HEP85> EvilBro: I have an idea. let me try it
[11:50] <tarzeau> pawan: it's got text graphics too :)
[11:50] <pawan> ok
[11:50] <pawan> how
[11:50] <Farva> marco: Key to the technical industry, never down an idea unless you have a viable recommendation.
[11:51] <pawan> i am at the $ prompt
[11:51] <Farva> And Alsuren: I was being sarcastic. Knowing NOONE can install a fresh debain without error on a box less than 4 yrs old.
[11:51] <mind_shift> pawan: type startx
[11:51] <mind_shift> :)
[11:52] <frojnd1> hello there
[11:52] <frojnd1> how can I reset settings for my keyboard, mouse monitor??
[11:52] <SoulPropagation> frojnd1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:52] <hid3> Hello everyone. I run a process which should use about 99% of cpu. But sometimes I notice that the process is using ~3-5% of cpu while %idle is near to 0. I found that the other % are being used by 'wa' (waiting?). Is there any way I can debug/find where the problem lies?
[11:52] <SoulPropagation> !help
[11:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:52] <alsuren> Farva: lol trollz
[11:52] <pawan> user not authorized to run the xserver
[11:53] <jmchaffie> hi all, having a last step issue with shoutcast. it's broadcasting on my local network no problem, shotcast network seems to see me fine, but apparently I'm just not getting out.
[11:54] <jmchaffie> nobody can connect back to me, does anyone here have experience w/ shoutcast?
[11:54] <HEP85> EvilBro: I tried gconf-editor and then /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_icon_size
[11:54] <belleke> is it possible to change users in the terminal sow i don't have to switch users?
[11:54] <HEP85> EvilBro: I think it doesn't work
[11:54] <alsuren> hid3: my understanding is that wa (wait%) is time spent waiting for hard disk I/O etc.
[11:54] <EvilBro> HEP85: :)
[11:54] <Kain> Anyone know of an app that can convert a vfat .img to iso9660
[11:55] <EvilBro> HEP85: not really what I wanted to hear of course.
[11:55] <SoulPropagation> belleke: su username
[11:55] <aa^way> hello,  how to use FFMPEG for MOV video to MP3 audio?
[11:55] <HEP85> EvilBro: But maybe you have to restart so that changes take effect. Or those settings are overwritten by the theme
[11:55] <hid3> alsuren: thanks, will try to inspect the disk system (that process is using the disk heavily).
[11:56] <belleke> thx
[11:56] <EvilBro> Hep85: I'll go try some stuff... unless it will break my setup of course... will it? (in all likeliness)
[11:56] <alsuren> hid3: note that on other OSs (eg. windows), the CPU monitor doesn't include wait% as busy CPU time
[11:56] <pawan> hello
[11:56] <pawan> startx not working
[11:57] <alsuren> so on windows, you will only ever hiht 100PU if something is in a busy loop
[11:57] <hid3> well, just linux running there
[11:57] <marco> i did sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager, selected the driver and restarted my pc and i get a black screen once ubuntu loads all the modules, anyone can help me?
[11:57] <marco> im tryiing to install the ati driver for an radeon9800 pro by the way:$
[11:58] <HEP85> EvilBro: I don't think so
[11:59] <jmchaffie> anyone dealt w/ idjc / shoutcast?
[11:59] <alsuren> hid3: but on linux, you will almost always either be at ~0% or ~100%.
[11:59] <EvilBro> HEp85: another question, if you don't mind, I recently installed pidgin from source. am I correct in assuming that a repository update might break pidgin due to a necessary library being replaced by another version? (probably a small change)
[12:00] <EvilBro> chance... not change
[12:00] <ayhan> seLam
[12:00] <tarzeau> EvilBro: it's possible yes
[12:01] <PriceChild> EvilBro, i doubt it... but if it does then your fault and you can fix it? :)
[12:01] <echosystm> guys, quick question, would a minimal alt install (x, gnome and firefox) be any faster than a default ubuntu install?
[12:01] <solitude|> Yes.
[12:01] <echosystm> ie. does a default install have much bloat?
[12:01] <solitude|> Yes it would.
[12:01] <solitude|> Yes.
[12:01] <echosystm> ok
[12:01] <ayhan> beni anlayan kimse varmi buralarda ??
[12:01] <EvilBro> PriceChild: whether I can is not the issue... I'm going to have to be able to I think. :)
[12:01] <solitude|> remving ubuntu-desktop. then installing Gnome is a clever idea.
[12:02] <ziroday> ayhan: indonesian?
[12:02] <echosystm> enough to make it worthwhile?
[12:02] <solitude|> then use aptitude to add what you want
[12:02] <HEP85> EvilBro: May be, but not very likely, because mostly the libs are compatible downwards
[12:02] <ayhan> no turkey
[12:02] <ziroday> ayhan: oh sorry
[12:02] <PriceChild> !turkey
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <PriceChild> !tr
[12:02] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[12:02] <echosystm> can you tell me what in particular causes the bloat solitude| ?
[12:02] <alsuren> EvilBro: if you installed something from source, it should be installed in /usr/local, rather than /usr/, so an update shouldn't overwrite anything installed from source
[12:03] <buck> how long does it take to build kernel
[12:03] <buck> took forever just to confic it
[12:03] <tarzeau> buck: 5 minutes to 5 hours
[12:03] <EvilBro> alsuren: I installed it in my home directory I think...
[12:03] <PriceChild> buck, how long is a piece of string?
[12:03] <giwrgos> hi
[12:03] <buck> strin?
[12:04] <buck> string?
[12:04] <PriceChild> buck, depends on your pc, your build environment, what options you've chosen
[12:04] <giwrgos> hello all
[12:04] <buck> cool...
[12:04] <buck> this is my fist day with linux
[12:04] <danya> can anyone help me with CS2 installation on ubuntu ??
[12:04] <PriceChild> buck, Don't recompile the kernel.
[12:04] <buck> i should have left well enough alone
[12:04] <ziroday> buck: than why you recompiling kernel?
[12:05] <alsuren> EvilBro: good choice. You should be fine then. Even if it *does break* (unlikely), you can just delete and recompile
[12:05] <pawan> how to open cubicplayer
[12:05] <PriceChild> buck, I have no idea why you would need to recompile it...  just leave it alone :)
[12:05] <buck> im building it to a later build
[12:05] <giwrgos> einai kanenas ellhnas edw?
[12:05] <tarzeau> pawan: ocp *.mp3
[12:05] <buck> yeah .. i know .. but i figured i wanted to get my hands wet
[12:05] <zyth> buck, not necessary
[12:05] <buck> you know ..
[12:05] <SoulPropagation> !gr | giwrgos
[12:05] <ubotu> giwrgos: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[12:05] <EvilBro> So if I ever wanted to delete the app I installed myself, I would just need to delete it? It doesn't register itself anywhere?
[12:06] <pawan> the program ins not installed
[12:06] <buck> but i have back up kernels..
[12:06] <EvilBro> I followed the instruction here btw : http://opensourceme.blogspot.com/2007/05/howto-install-pidgin-from-source-on.html
[12:06] <buck> they say i cant hurt anything
[12:06] <angel_of_jeff> hello
[12:06] <alsuren> buck: if you want to get your hands dirty, try gentoo :P
[12:06] <buck> i didnt say dirty .. i mentioned wet
[12:06] <ziroday> EvilBro: just use the pidign.deb
[12:07] <alsuren> buck: I jest
[12:07] <pawan> how to install cubicplayer
[12:07] <ziroday> buck: ive been with linux for maybe a year and i have never recompiled the kernel
[12:07] <buck> im on the char now
[12:07] <frojnd1> how can I check what's the size of package?
[12:07] <buck> drivers/hid
[12:07] <ziroday> buck: youre more than dirty
[12:08] <buck> yeah .. i konw
[12:08] <EvilBro> ziroday: bit late for that. :) What is the difference between the .deb and the source-install method? The .deb does more things for you?
[12:08] <alsuren> buck: the answer to your original question is "try  it and see" (use "time make all" to get an accurate idea :D )
[12:08] <angel_of_jeff> Does someone know how to move my home folder to another partition?
[12:08] <frojnd1> anyone?
[12:08] <ziroday> EvilBro: .deb takes care of the dependences and no need to compile
[12:08] <buck> i am also tired as i have been up over 24 hours with this
[12:08] <ziroday> EvilBro: as if installed via synaptic
[12:08] <buck> im like a virgin..
[12:08] <mikubuntu> !libraries
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libraries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <buck> and i like what i see
[12:09] <alsuren> angel_of_jeff: mount /dev/<partition> /mnt  ...
[12:09] <EvilBro> ziroday: I see. And every deb works with ubuntu? or am I going to run into some weird problems?
[12:09] <ziroday> EvilBro: most .debs do, the one i can show you to does
[12:09] <alsuren> angel_of_jeff: sudo cp -a /home/* /mnt
[12:09] <buck> .. i once asked a deb out ..
[12:09] <mikubuntu> can anyone tell me where to go to browse libraries of ubuntu compatible open source softwares
[12:10] <buck> now i am on the Isdn
[12:10] <arso> hey guys
[12:10] <buck> howdi ars
[12:10] <arso> its me from yesterday , i still have trouble with my sound on both videos and music.
[12:10] <angel_of_jeff> alsuren: thx
[12:10] <arso> buck:  its arso.
[12:11] <buck> yeah .. i apologize .. i sroped the O
[12:11] <buck> sorry
[12:11] <EvilBro> ziroday: Suppose i have a app installed through the ubuntu repository. It is however not the latest version and the newer version has a feature that I want. There is a deb available. Should I unistall the ubuntu-version first? or can I simply install the new version from the deb?
[12:11] <arso> buck:  np.
[12:11] <buck> been up long time playing wiht the fire
[12:11] <alsuren> angel_of_jeff: umount /mnt && mv /home /home~ && mkdir /home && mount /dev/<partition> /home
[12:11] <arso> buck: i see, understandable. can u help me?
[12:11] <tanlaan> anyone wanna point me to a tutorial on installing compiz fusion?
[12:12] <arso> !flash
[12:12] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:12] <SoulPropagation> !gnash | me
[12:12] <ubotu> me: An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[12:12] <buck> if its a personal matter sure .. but if it has to do with linux.. i just popped my cherry today
[12:12] <buck> well 24 hours ago
[12:12] <alsuren> angel_of_jeff: it's even possible to do it to a live system, with only a few breakages, because the down-time between mv and mount is less than a second
[12:12] <mikubuntu> !ubuntu repository
[12:12] <mikubuntu> !ubuntu repositories
[12:13] <buck> im on Media now
[12:13] <alsuren> angel_of_jeff: and then rm -R /home~ once you're sure everything's fine
[12:13] <arso> is gnash recommended?
[12:13] <buck> im glad we can do things while the kernel builds
[12:13] <EvilBro> Suppose i have a app installed through the ubuntu repositories. It is however not the latest version and the newer version has a feature that I want. There is a deb available. Should I unistall the ubuntu-version first? or can I simply install the new version from the deb?
[12:13] <buck> this is awesome..
[12:13] <tanlaan> !compiz
[12:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:13] <buck> its like my sculprure
[12:13] <arso> buck:  what are you talking about :P
[12:14] <buck> im sure you all are very artful when it comes to building your kernels
[12:14] <ziroday> EvilBro: you need to uninstall the ubuntu one first
[12:14] <buck> im talking about linux
[12:14] <arso> i see,
[12:14] <mikubuntu> !ubuntu repositories
[12:14] <arso> !sound
[12:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:14] <ninnghizidha> Hi there! My OpenOffice Apps lost all their icons. Please help.
[12:14] <buck> i am like a virgin ..
[12:14] <buck> i mean i have seen linux before
[12:14] <EvilBro> ziroday: Okay. Same goes for 'from source' then.
[12:14] <primski> hello, how can i make feisty mount my phone memory card, its a 2gb SD mini
[12:14] <tanlaan> Like a virgin for the very first time? ;D
[12:14] <SoulPropagation> So I just set up a virtual machine in qemu but there aren't any network interfaces on the guest machine. how can I add 'em
[12:15] <primski> it used to mount smaller card 128mb without problems, but wont do it with 2gb
[12:15] <buck> but never installed it or really checked it out.. and i am amazed at how seamless it is .. and am wondering why MS is still around
[12:15] <mikubuntu> hmmmmmmmmmmm... anyone tell me where to find all that software, like beryl, and cad programs, etc...?
[12:15] <pawan1234> hi
[12:15] <_imran_> yesterday i instaled compiz-fusion and everything seemed to be working fine, now when i booted up again, nothing wants to work...there are no desktop effects, can anybody tell me how to fix this problem
[12:15] <arso> yep , linux is amazing. i started 2 days ago :D
[12:15] <buck> what directory is after drivers
[12:16] <EvilBro> thanks hep85, ziroday, and others... am going to restart now to see if the icons change size. :)
[12:16] <angel_of_jeff> alsuren: that was exactly what i was looking for...thanx a lot
[12:16] <buck> awesome.. have you been to sleep yet?
[12:16] <arso> nope.
[12:16] <varun0> buck: after drivers?
[12:16] <pawan> how to enable automatic login in ubuntu
[12:16] <marcosoria> hi, im trying to install the ati drivers on 7.04, i followed the instructions on a wiki and it didnt't owrk and im stuck in a black screen, i did sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[12:16] <arso> trying to fix everything
[12:16] <arso> just sound left, its all fucked up :(
[12:16] <buck> yea on the kernel build i am on drivers /net
[12:16] <arso> !coc
[12:16] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[12:17] <alsuren> angel_of_jeff: :D glad to help.
[12:17] <HEP85> pawan: System --> Admin --> Login Window
[12:17] <HEP85> --> Security
[12:18] <pawan> then
[12:18] <pawan> how to install cubicplayer
[12:18] <buck> what are all the warnings about
[12:19] <buck> drivers/scsi/megaraid.c:3626: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
[12:19] <HEP85> pawan: sudo apt-get install opencubicplayer
[12:19] <tarzeau> pawan: apt-get install opencubicplayer
[12:19] <buck> do i need to reconfigure my file
[12:19] <|thunder> could someone please tell me exactly which feisty package i need to satisfy this 'checking for Qt library version >= 4.1... no; Qt 4.1 or greater is required'
[12:19] <primski> anybody knows if ubuntu has some sort of size limit for usb memory cards?? i cant get it to mount 2gb sd mini
[12:19] <mikubuntu> hola guys.  how do i get ubuntu to give me more screen resolution, its only offering me 600 x 800?
[12:19] <HEP85> :p
[12:19] <Dezine> I'm trying to use Beryl and I was able to set it up but now I can't get it to work, the manager opens with no issues. I'm using feisty and the desktop effects features works, any ideas?
[12:19] <HEP85> mikubuntu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:19] <arso> synaptic says i already have flashplugin-nonfree , but i cant load youtub videos yet, it says i need flash, any ideas?
[12:20] <alsuren> pawan: it is also possible to turn a USB memory stick into a key that lets you log in without a password (google for pam-usb)
[12:20] <pawan> great
[12:20] <buck> arso do you have 64 bit build
[12:20] <primski> anybody owns nokia n80 ?
[12:20] <arso> buck:  no.
[12:20] <mikubuntu> hep85: so i just open a terminal and paste that in?
[12:20] <arso> buck:  its x86
[12:21] <_imran_> yesterday i instaled compiz-fusion and everything seemed to be working fine, now when i booted up again, nothing wants to work...there are no desktop effects, can anybody tell me how to fix this problem
[12:21] <skollie> primski: I do
[12:21] <alsuren> buck: are you still compiling the kernel?
[12:21] <HEP85> buck: 64 bit has no flashplugin-nonfree
[12:21] <pawan> how to start cubic player
[12:21] <primski> skollie, do you have any problems with mounting memory cards?
[12:21] <pawan> it is installed
[12:21] <primski> i just bought a 2gb sd mini, and it wont mount :s
[12:21] <_imran_> primski, i have a nokai n73
[12:21] <marcosoria> how can i switch to one of the consoles in linux, i know its a combination of a key and a number?
[12:21] <arso> HEP85: i am on x86 and i have flashplugin-nonfree but youtube vids arent loading
[12:21] <buck> i know i run a 32 bit version of firefox
[12:21] <primski> default one, 128mb, mountet without problems
[12:21] <skollie> primski: I don't follow
[12:21] <buck> followed the install instructions
[12:22] <HEP85> I run 64 bit firefox + flash
[12:22] <primski> skollie, a ok, no probs
[12:22] <Dezine> Ok, it's working but now I have no window decorator
[12:22] <HEP85> arso: are you using firefox?
[12:22] <buck> oh nice..
[12:22] <primski> _imran_ how big memory card u have ?
[12:22] <buck> i would like to do that
[12:22] <arso> HEP85:  yes, the default one with ubuntu
[12:22] <arso> HEP85:  installed ubuntu 2 days ago.
[12:22] <pawan> hello
[12:22] <_imran_> does anybody know if there is a taskbar for linux that looks like the one mac osx has
[12:22] <buck> do you think with theys warnings i have to reconfigure
[12:22] <_imran_> primski, very small, 128mb
[12:22] <HEP85> arso: ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[12:22] <ziroday> _imran_: avant-window-navigator
[12:23] <HEP85> is it showing libflashplayer.so?
[12:23] <primski> _imran_ i had that one too, works without problems, now i bought 2gb one, but wont mount in feisty :S
[12:23] <_imran_> ziroday, how do you get it?
[12:23] <buck> takes forever ..
[12:23] <pawan> how to start the cubic player
[12:23] <arso> HEP85:  and?
[12:23] <_imran_> primski, have you tried on another OS?
[12:23] <HEP85> arso: is it showing libflashplayer.so?
[12:23] <ziroday> _imran_: trevino has it in his repp, google trevino repo 3v1
[12:24] <primski> _imran_ not yet, will reboot to win xp asap, am just dl'ing smth :P
[12:24] <arso> yes, but its in red, and flashplayer.xpt is in red, others are in blue
[12:24] <buck> on net /bluetooth
[12:24] <mikubuntu> HEP85: i pasted that in, and then ubuntu asks me for my password, but won't accept any text, just the black blinking box there...
[12:25] <arso> HEP85: yes, but its in red, and flashplayer.xpt is in red, others are in blue
[12:25] <_imran_> ziroday, must i search for trevino repo 3v1 on google?
[12:25] <ziroday> _imran_: yes
[12:25] <HEP85> mikubuntu: it accepts a passward, but it is not echoed
[12:25] <HEP85> just try it
[12:25] <HEP85> arso: red is not good, I think
[12:25] <mikubuntu> HEP85: you mean i don't see it?
[12:25] <_imran_> ziroday, ok, will do
[12:25] <arso> HEP85:  hmm. i'll try reinstalling it.
[12:26] <arso> HEP85:  wait, how do i reinstall a firefox plugin?
[12:26] <buck> is red incomplete package
[12:26] <arso> HEP85:  i am reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree
[12:26] <buck> i think it needs to be free
[12:26] <HEP85> mikubuntu: yes
[12:26] <arso> buck:  so what do we do about it?
[12:26] <HEP85> arso: ok
[12:26] <buck> thats why its red
[12:27] <arso> how do i reinstall the flash plgugin on firefox
[12:27] <arso> plugin*
[12:27] <buck> .. sudo get-install flash9
[12:27] <buck> something like that
[12:27] <_imran_> can anybody help me solve this problem...i installed compiz-fusion yesterday without any problems...but today when i booted up...it didn't want to work
[12:27] <arso> get-apt ?
[12:27] <buck> yeah get-apt install flash9
[12:28] <Farva> apt-get? :)
[12:28] <arso> oh woops
[12:28] <arso> :P
[12:28] <buck> i am thinking its in a repository somewhere
[12:28] <buck> now i am building modules , stage 3 modpost 1660 modules
[12:28] <arso>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:29] <HEP85> arso: delete the red libflashplayer.so before reinstalling. maybe it blocks the install
[12:29] <arso> HEP85:  how ?
[12:29] <mikubuntu> HEP85: ok, you right; i got a screen that's axing me:  Drivers are typically named for the video card or chipset manufacturer,   
[12:29] <mikubuntu>   or for a specific model or family of chipsets.
[12:29] <Farva> arso, you prolly have synaptic package manager running or something.
[12:29] <HEP85> arso: sudo rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[12:29] <arso> HEP85:  and should i delete the other red one too, flashplayer.xpt
[12:29] <HEP85> arso: yes
[12:29] <arso> Farva:  yes, i am, is that why?
[12:29] <reverseblade> does anyone know how can make the address bar and menu bar of firefox visible again ?
[12:30] <mikubuntu> HEP85: there's a whole list and it came out highlited red on 'ati'
[12:30] <rausb0> buck: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:30] <Farva> yup, you can only run one process, close one.
[12:30] <buck> do i put that in my plugin directory
[12:30] <arso> Farva:  ok , i am reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree in synaptic
[12:31] <solitude|> rofl
[12:31] <HEP85> rausb0: he needs to do a REinstall
[12:31] <solitude|> metacity is evil
[12:31] <Farva> cool
[12:31] <arso> ok finished reinstalling.
[12:31] <EvilBro> Hep85: in case you wanted an update on the icon size thing: rebooting has no effect whatsoever. :)
[12:31] <rausb0> HEP85: so his system is fubar?
[12:31] <HEP85> rausb0: no. only the package^^
[12:32] <primski> did anybody try transfering data to mobile phone, thru wireless network, i have nokia n80 and am trying to share content over WiFi, send some music over to the phone, am i uderstanding this correctly?
[12:32] <Farva> This has got to be the most active nix chan I've ever seen.
[12:32] <arso> youtube still isnt working :(
[12:32] <ziroday> Farva: we are on freenode :0
[12:32] <arso> even after reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree
[12:32] <CaneToad> Hi, I'd like to report a problem.... Ubuntu 7.04 boots on my machine (Clevo D870P) from CD, and X comes up, but I don't get any windows at all on the X server, just a blank coloured screen with cursor that moves with my mouse.  Pressing CTRL-ALT-F1 flicks back to terminal mode and can't see anything relevant in dmesg
[12:32] <HEP85> arso: I don't know the reinstall command for apt-get. You can also reinstall using synaptic
[12:33] <arso> HEP85:  i finished reinstalling it.
[12:33] <arso> HEP85:  does this reinstall the plugin in firefox too?
[12:33] <ziroday> CaneToad: in terminal mode type sudo startx
[12:33] <HEP85> arso: I think so. You only have to close all browser windows and restart firefox
[12:34] <CaneToad> ziroday:  can try that, but X is already started, the server is up
[12:34] <arso> restarting firefox.
[12:34] <CaneToad> If I set the display, I can start an xterm
[12:34] <CaneToad> but there's no window manager or anything
[12:34] <CaneToad> I can start gnome-wm
[12:34] <arso> amarok is lagging my whole system with its music scan :(
[12:35] <arso> youtube still isnt working. after reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree and restarting firefox.
[12:35] <buck> damn .. i want to get this completed
[12:36] <arso> HEP85: youtube still isnt working. after reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree and restarting firefox
[12:36] <lpandre> hello
[12:36] <HEP85> arso: start firefox in a terminal and watch the output when you open the youtube video
[12:37] <HEP85> arso: you will see any error messages there
[12:37] <arso> HEP85:  how please..
[12:37] <buck> start in terminal
[12:37] <rubika> Hi all ! I'm all new with Ubuntu, but after one week, I want to say that it's the best damn OS I've ever tried ! Wahhh ! :p Well... That's good to say. ;)
[12:37] <HEP85> arso: gnome-terminal
[12:37] <HEP85> arso: just enter firefox inthere
[12:37] <lpandre> Can someone guide me... how to get 5.1 surround sound
[12:37] <arso> oh yea, i have a problem with my gnome-terminal
[12:37] <arso> it was working fine the first half day
[12:38] <arso> then it became a white box.
[12:38] <arso> i tried changing the colors, still a whilte box :S
[12:38] <mikubuntu> HEP85: where do i find the rest of the information ubuntu wants to reconfigure my screen?  it's a dell latitude 600 i'm on
[12:38] <arso> iv ebeen using xterm since then
[12:38] <HEP85> then use xterm
[12:38] <lpandre> i am using totem player with xine-lib
[12:38] <HEP85> mikubuntu: what exactly do you need to know?
[12:39] <metropeople> buon giorno!!!
[12:39] <buck> how do i know when it finishes building the kernel
[12:39] <HEP85> mikubuntu: if you don't know something just press enter the select the default
[12:39] <lpandre> rubika .. same here .. just using ubuntu from a week ... best OS i have tried
[12:39] <metropeople> need help....:S anybody can help me?
[12:39] <arso>  GetValue variable 1 (1) i got like 20 of those, with 1 or 2
[12:39] <|DarkED|> o/
[12:39] <arso> !anyone
[12:39] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:39] <mikubuntu> k, will try again
[12:39] <HEP85> buck: when it stops printing out those lines^^
[12:39] <rubika> lpandre: so true... :p
[12:40] <buck> cool....
[12:40] <buck> done
[12:40] <buck> doesnt look like i have a prompt tho
[12:40] <Mazajy`> hi all
[12:40] <HEP85> buck: and your prompt reappears
[12:40] <rubika> arso: What's the problem with flahs and firefox ? No sound ?
[12:40] <arso> HEP85:  GetValue variable 1 (1) i got like 20 of those, with 1 or 2
[12:40] <arso> rubika:  no, youtube videos dont load, tellls me i need flash
[12:40] <buck> okay .. . is there a way to look at the process on a graph or somthing?
[12:40] <lpandre> i am having trouble to get 5.1 sound ... can someone help .. thats the only reason i have go to windows
[12:41] <arso> rubika:  and i have another problem with sound, its quality is messed up n full of static,
[12:41] <HEP85> arso: but no message about the flash plugin?
[12:41] <buck> doesnt look like my usbdrives light is moving
[12:41] <rubika> arso: don't have something that block javascript ? Like noscript ?
[12:41] <arso> rubika:  and i have a third problem with gnome terminal, its a white box
[12:41] <stefg> arso: are you running a 64bit flaor?
[12:41] <kos> Is there any good guys there who could give me a  free copy of opensuse cds???
[12:41] <arso> rubika:  i dont think so
[12:41] <arso> stefg: no not 64 bit
[12:41] <HEP85> arso: you need to open a youtube video. only the main page does not work
[12:41] <Mazajy`> i have problem with ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386 can any one help me plz
[12:41] <arso> HEP85:  no , no such messages
[12:41] <arso> HEP85:  it is a youtube video.
[12:41] <kos> Is there any good guys there who could give me a  free copy of opensuse cds???
[12:42] <HEP85> arso: I am pretty much clueless now. you could try a manual install (download from adobe)
[12:42] <buck> downloadthat from torrents
[12:42] <stefg> kos: that's quite offtopic here, don't you think
[12:42] <JakeQ> how can i set correct chmod values to a folder with root for another user ?
[12:42] <arso> HEP85:  is it easy?
[12:42] <rubika> arso: well, don't know, but flash needs to use javascript so... That could be the problem.
[12:42] <PriceChild> kos, try #suse or whatever channel it is
[12:42] <arso> HEP85:  or do i hae to compile n stuff, i am still a beginner.
[12:42] <kos> Is there any good guys there who could give me a  free copy of opensuse cds???
[12:42] <metropeople> i cant get my gforce integrated graphic card to work properly with the feisty
[12:42] <metropeople> :S
[12:42] <arso> rubika:  how could we fix it ?
[12:42] <buck> yeah .. the java installer
[12:42] <buck> is taht installed arso
[12:42] <HEP85> arso: you don't have to compile. only extract and run the installer
[12:42] <arso> buck:  i am not sure ?
[12:42] <kos> Is there any good guys there who could give me a  free copy of opensuse cds??? Or could anyone tell me from where will i get free open suse cds
[12:42] <rubika> arso: I'm totally new, but that can be a lead...
[12:43] <Mazajy`> i burn the ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386 on a CD but it doesn't work can any one help me ?
[12:43] <buck> dpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-2.6.22.1' in `../linux-image-2.6.22.1_custom.1.
[12:43] <buck> its haning on that
[12:43] <buck> line
[12:43] <HEP85> !doesn'twork
[12:43] <buck> no prompt
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn'twork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <HEP85> !doesntwork
[12:43] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[12:43] <lpandre> metropeople: goto System>Administration>Restricted drivers
[12:43] <arso> HEP85:  ok, checking main site now.
[12:43] <kos> Is there any good guys there who could give me a  free copy of opensuse cds??? Or could anyone tell me from where will i get free open suse cds
[12:43] <arso> buck:  so how do we check java installer
[12:43] <kolden> running ubuntu6 lts - I have 3 nics, eth0 adsl (dhcp assigned), eth1 leaseline (static ip), eth2 internal nic for lan. I want to ensure default gw is always eth0, and set custom routes for eth1. What is the best way of doing this?
[12:43] <lpandre> and enable nvidia drivers
[12:43] <Mazajy`> i burn the ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386 on a CD but it doesn't work can any one help me ?
[12:43] <buck> i would tell you you need another plugin
[12:44] <buck> and you proceed to do that
[12:44] <arso> HEP85:  .tar.gz or .rpm or YUM
[12:44] <buck> thats how it did it ofr me
[12:44] <HEP85> arso: tar.gz
[12:44] <arso> HEP85:  ok.
[12:44] <echosystm> guys, i had originally installed off my slave cd drive
[12:44] <JakeQ> guys need urgent help! how can i set correct chmod values to a folder as root for another user ?
[12:44] <Farva> Mazajy: you have to use software that can burn image files(.ISO),, like nero
[12:44] <nomad111> how do i get the new look gnome main menu? similar to linux mint one
[12:44] <arso> buck:  i 'll try flash from adobes site for now.
[12:44] <echosystm> now when i try to install things and put the cd in my master it wont go
[12:44] <lpandre> helllooo anyone guide me with 5.1 sound .. i am getting sound only from front spreaker what ever i try
[12:44] <echosystm> it just keeps prompting me to put the cd in!
[12:44] <metropeople> where can i get the drivers for my nvidia gforce integrated graphic card
[12:44] <metropeople> :S
[12:44] <echosystm> any ideas?!
[12:45] <metropeople> and how can i install them
[12:45] <buck> whoever wants the cds .. bittorrent search for thgenm .. or go to the site and DL them
[12:45] <nomad111> any ideas anyone?
[12:45] <Mazajy`> i burn the ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386 on a CD but it doesn't work can any one help me ?
[12:45] <Farva> Mazajy:
[12:45] <kos> Is there any good guys there who could give me a  free copy of opensuse cds??? Or could anyone tell me from where will i get free open suse cds
[12:45] <EvilBro> As I said earlier, I installed pidgin from source using http://opensourceme.blogspot.com/2007/05/howto-install-pidgin-from-source-on.html and now I was wondering why typing 'pidgin' in a terminal actually runs pidgin even though I am not in the pidgin-directory
[12:45] <buck> dpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-2.6.22.1' in `../linux-image-2.6.22.1_custom.1.0
[12:45] <buck> try to reburn
[12:45] <rubika> Mazajy: What's not working? It doesn't boot ?
[12:45] <Farva> You burnt it,, and,,,, you tried to install it? You threw it out the window? It jumped up and bit you?
[12:46] <nomad111> this is the main menu i am referring to http://linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/cassandra/2.png
[12:46] <buck> i am not getting a promt.. oh ther eit is guys.
 yaa
[12:46] <buck> now time to install this
[12:46] <arso> buck:  good luck
[12:46] <buck> see how i screwed up my kernel
[12:46] <lpandre> metropeople: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_setup_nvidia_drivers_in_7.04
[12:46] <rubika> Mazajy: Well stupid question, did you change your bios so your cd-rom is 1st boot ?
[12:46] <echosystm> can someone help? how do i get apt-get to run off my primary cd drive rather than my slave?
[12:46] <echosystm> i got rid of the slave...
 yes i did
[12:47] <Farva> Mazajy: If your sure that you burnt the cd correctly, which is NOT like a normal cd you would burn of music, then hit F12 at boot, and find an option to "boot from cd-rom".
[12:47] <rubika> Mazajy: Ok, you got another bootable cdrom to try if it's not your cd-rom reader ?
[12:48] <aa^way> Hey seems like i have old FFMPEG, any way to get newest?
[12:48] <pawan1234> how to start cubic player
[12:48] <HEP85> !doesntwork > Mazajy`
[12:48] <arso> HEP85:  the .tar.gz jsut fiished downloading, what do i do now?
[12:48] <alsuren> Mazajy: can you go through the process you used to burn the CD?
[12:48] <rubika> Mazajy: Yaa right, when you put in the cd under your current OS do you have something ? When you try to look at the files, how many do you fot ?
[12:49] <Jjohn> aa^way, apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:49] <arso> HEP85:  i opened it , it has 3 files inside
[12:49] <rubika> Mazajy: got....
[12:49] <Farva> I love all this help :)
[12:49] <arso> HEP85:  installer, .xpt and .so
[12:49] <alsuren> pawan: in the console: ocp
[12:49] <HEP85> extract them all
[12:49] <arso> HEP85:  where to?
[12:49] <alsuren> pawan: but I couldn't get it to make any sound
[12:50] <HEP85> arso: it doesn't matter. they are temporary and you can remove them after installation
[12:50] <arso> HEP85:  ok done.
[12:50] <HEP85> arso: set execute permission to the installer and run it (in a terminal)
[12:50] <Mazajy`> i burn the cd just like the website do at , www.ubuntu.com
[12:51] <HEP85> arso: and run it as root (using sudo)
[12:51] <arso> HEP85:  umm, it automatically runs in terminal, how do i make it run in xterm
[12:51] <HEP85> arso: open xterm and start it from there
[12:51] <alsuren> Mazajy`: do you have any other computers that you can test the CD with?
[12:51] <arso> HEP85:  how please :(
[12:51] <rubika> Mazajy: groumph... Your OS is windows right now ?
[12:52] <Mazajy`> yaa windows xp
[12:52] <buck> linux-image-2.6.22.1_custom.1.0_amd64.deb
[12:52] <HEP85> arso: please give me the whole path + filename
[12:52] <buck> there it is
[12:52] <rubika> Mazajy: When you put your cd in, does it launch something ?
[12:52] <pawan> how to start utorrent in ubuntu
[12:53] <arso> HEP85:  home/arso/desktop/flashplayer-installer
[12:53] <CheesyMonkey> pawan, utorrent...would require wine...
[12:53] <fasta> pawan: via wine or not.
[12:53] <CheesyMonkey> !torrent | pawan
[12:53] <ubotu> pawan: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[12:53] <Jjohn> Mazajy', are you trying to install from an iso image??
[12:53] <CheesyMonkey> pawan, Id recommend one of them native ones :)
[12:53] <HEP85> arso: cd /home/arso/desktop/
[12:53] <fasta> How do I change the brightness settings for Flash movies on e.g. YouTube?
[12:53] <desper> Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package SUNWuto: postinst prerm
[12:53] <Mazajy`> it lunch the cd for a sec then windows well statrt
[12:53] <HEP85> arso: sudo ./flashplayer-installer
[12:53] <Farva> lol
[12:53] <fasta> I can change the brightness of my whole system, but then the interface becomes _way_ too bright.
[12:54] <echosystm> someone PLEASE!
[12:54] <echosystm> how do i make apt look at the master cd rather than the slave??
[12:54] <echosystm> google isnt helping
[12:54] <buck> oh crap . i dont have my headers
[12:54] <echosystm> and i cant install anything :(
[12:54] <buck> what a wast of time
[12:54] <arso> HEP85:  after i cd /home/arso how can i view what folders are in there
[12:54] <arso> HEP85:  coz it says file not available if i add desktop
[12:54] <rubika> Mazajy: No, under windows, does it launch something that's speaking of ubuntu ?
[12:55] <fasta> arso: read a basic book on Linux
[12:55] <pawan> i have bitorrent client installed
[12:55] <echosystm> i tried apt-cdrom add -d /media/cdrom1
[12:55] <pawan> but i am not able to openit
[12:55] <HEP85> arso: ls
[12:55] <arso> HEP85:  thank you
 no
[12:55] <alsuren> echosystm: try mounting the CD first, then using apt-cdrom and telling it not to try mounting again
[12:55] <echosystm> i tried apt-cdrom add -d /media/cdrom1
[12:55] <echosystm> it didnt do anything
[12:55] <echosystm> apt still looks for /cdrom/
[12:56] <Farva> Mazajy: (you probabbly burnt the cd wrong) but try putting the disk in, restart windows, and right when windows starts,, hit F12.. That will bring op bios options,, find something that says boot from,, you know,, i;m finding it easier to advise him to stay on windows.
[12:56] <rubika> Mazajy: Then it wasn't burnt properly. You should try to reburn it or download it once again and burn it "as an image".
[12:56] <echosystm> how do i mount the cdrom as /cdrom/ ?
 can you tell for the bigging how to burn it into the cd ?
[12:56] <arso> HEP85:
[12:56] <arso> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, SeaMonkey,
[12:56] <arso> or Firefox browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):
[12:56] <Jjohn> rubika, Is he trying to boot from an iso image he got from the ubuntu site???
[12:56] <HEP85> arso: /usr/lib/firefox
 I DID THAT
[12:57] <rubika> Jjohn : Seems so... But don't know how he burnt it.
[12:57] <Newbie_Dude> I downloaded a package from the synaptic called "Desktop Search" which adds a little magnifying glass to my panel that allows search. Am I under the right impression that it does not search the entire file system, but only the home directory?
[12:57] <Farva>  Ok, you found the bios options, selected boot from cd, and it still went to windows?
[12:57] <arso> HEP85:  ok done, loading firefox now
[12:57] <buck> remote desktop arso
[12:57] <aa^way> Jjohn: thanks for answering but it didnt do anything expect asked me to update wine but uhm that isnt needed, its last version and i think it wanted to make it older :S?
[12:57] <arso> buck: ?
[12:57] <mind_shift> how do I add a public hub list in DC_gui?
 i;m finding it easier to advise him to stay on windows.  ,, really do u thank that punk
[12:58] <jmchaffie> I'm trying to find out what is taking up port 8000 on my system... I can't find anything recognizable in processes. Any util I can use like netstat that will give me the process?
[12:58] <arso> HEP85:  IT WORKED :)
[12:58] <arso> HEP85:  thanks a lot.
[12:58] <aa^way> imm desperated about mov to mp3 lol
[12:58] <HEP85> arso: you're welcome
[12:58] <arso> HEP85:  if you can help me with one more thing?
[12:58] <Toma-> Is there a way to login straight to X without gdm/kdm/xdm/wdm?
[12:58] <HEP85> arso: it depends
[12:58] <buck> im gonna reboot guys.. brb..
[12:58] <Injen> TOo late i changed my nick,, ans yes,, if you don;t know how to burn an iso, image, I personally wouldnt recommend you playing with bios options, and am sorry that i did.
[12:58] <mind_shift> Toma: you need to log in
[12:58] <buck> if it works.. if not . than i suck and will give up on this
 ya it's iso image
[12:59] <arso> HEP85:  i have a problem with my sound, its quality, its really bad and full of static.
[12:59] <Jjohn> aa^way, I am not too sure what to do then
[12:59] <CheesyMonkey> Toma-, I think you can set to auto login in gdm..Dunno if that skips it as suck
[12:59] <CheesyMonkey> such*
[12:59] <jmchaffie> is there a way to see what process is using a particular port?
[12:59] <Toma-> CheesyMonkey: yeh i know that much, I just want it to be gone from memory
[12:59] <pawan> how to install bitrorent client
[01:00] <HEP85> arso: Sorry. I am no sound man. But in case you are using OSS, switching to ALSA should work better, I think
[01:00] <mind_shift> pawan: If you installed ubuntu, you already have one
[01:00] <Jjohn> Mazajay, you need to burn it to a cd maybe copy it to a hard frive then burn image from there a iso will not read
[01:00] <arso> HEP85:  already checked that, its alsa. np. and my gnome console is a white box.. i tried right clicking and changing color, its still the same.
[01:00] <pawan> how to start it
[01:00] <echosystm> pawan, sudo apt-get install rtorrent
[01:00] <desper> iam installing SunRay on ubuntu and when iam installing the packages with the help of this script  [ for i in srss_3.1.1/Sun_Ray_Core_Services_3.1.1/Linux/Packages/* srss_3.1.1/Sun_Ray_Data_Store_2.2/Linux/Packages/* srss_3.1.1/GDM_2.4.4.7.2/Linux/Packages/* srss_3.1.1/Docs/Linux/Packages/*; do
[01:00] <desper>   alien -d "$i"
[01:00] <desper>   done
[01:00] <desper>  some packages are extracted but some of them send this message Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package SUNWutdsk: postinst prerm
[01:00] <echosystm> and load it from the gnome menu
[01:00] <desper>  Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scrip
[01:00] <arso> HEP85:  and my maximum refresh rate is only 56, my monitor can support up to 75 or 80
[01:00] <Newbie_Dude> pawan: it should be installed already, right-click on the "Applications" menu, then click "Edit Menus", double-click "Internet" in the left pane, then click the radio box next to "BitTorrent" in the right pane. You will then find it inside your Applications > Internet Menu
[01:01] <desper> iam installing SunRay on ubuntu and when iam installing the packages with the help of this script  [ for i in srss_3.1.1/Sun_Ray_Core_Services_3.1.1/Linux/Packages/* srss_3.1.1/Sun_Ray_Data_Store_2.2/Linux/Packages/* srss_3.1.1/GDM_2.4.4.7.2/Linux/Packages/* srss_3.1.1/Docs/Linux/Packages/*; do
[01:01] <desper>   alien -d "$i"
[01:01] <desper>   done
[01:01] <desper>  some packages are extracted but some of them send this message Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package SUNWutdsk: postinst prerm
[01:01] <desper>  Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scrip
[01:01] <Mazajy`> can any one tell me the steps plz
[01:01] <HEP85> arso: what video driver are you using?
[01:02] <jmchaffie> Something is using port 8000 on my system. Is there a way to find out what it is? netstat only tells me that it's being used.
[01:02] <arso> HEP85:  nvidia
[01:02] <pawan> i cant see one
[01:02] <pawan> i installed it
[01:02] <echosystm> pawan
[01:02] <echosystm> type
[01:02] <echosystm> rtorrent
[01:02] <HEP85> arso: then you can start a program named nvidia-settings
[01:02] <clouder__> jmchaffie: I think if you pass -p option to netstat it should tell you
[01:02] <echosystm> in the terminal window
[01:02] <Newbie_Dude> pawan: did you followm y instructions
[01:03] <arso> HEP85:  ok , checking
[01:03] <pawan> yes
[01:03] <jmchaffie> clouder_: ok, thanks I will try. I don't know all the switches to all the commands yet ;)
[01:03] <pawan> could not read resource file
[01:03] <pawan> rtorrent
[01:03] <Newbie_Dude> pawan: if you clicked the radio button next to "BitTorrent" in the "Edit Menus" you should now find it inside Applications Menu > Internet Menu
[01:03] <clouder__> jmchaffie: -h is your friend ;D
[01:03] <Injen> Mazajy: even though you almost got yourself hurt, Im still inclined to help you if you agree to start downloading nero right now.
[01:03] <echosystm> guys, i have a question
[01:03] <echosystm> how is it that i dont have gdm/xdm installed
[01:04] <Newbie_Dude> pawan: if those are all giving you problems try "Azureus," it's a pretty good one. Can install it through Add/Remove
[01:04] <echosystm> yet i can shut down from within xfce?
[01:04] <pawan> how
[01:04] <echosystm> shouldnt i have to type a password in at least to do that?
[01:04] <arso> HEP85:  that worked, my refresh rate is now 75, thanks a lot :)
[01:04] <ziroday> echosystm: magic
[01:04] <ziroday> :)
[01:04] <HEP85> arso: no problem
[01:04] <arso> HEP85:  any idea about my console problem ?
[01:04] <echosystm> seriously
[01:04] <arso> HEP85:  i even tried reinstalling the gnome terminal
[01:04] <echosystm> shouldnt i have to type a password in at least to do that?
[01:04] <mind_shift> does anyone use DC_gui in here?
[01:04] <HEP85> arso: no clue I'm afraid
[01:04] <arso> HEP85:  ok.
[01:04] <jmchaffie> clouder__: Thanks tons! worked like a charm! :)
[01:04] <Newbie_Dude> pawan: Go to your Applications Menu and open "Add/Remove" ... Then type in "azureus" to the search box. Install. :)
[01:05] <clouder> jmchaffie: great, glad I could help
[01:05] <desper> Help me about SUNRAY on ubuntu
[01:06] <desper> hello any one know any thing about SunRay
[01:06] <arso> HEP85:  how can i see current running tasks?
[01:07] <HEP85> arso: ps ax
[01:07] <stewski> whats cool and new in the world of ubuntu?
[01:07] <arso> HEP85:  and how can i end one? isnt there a gui alternative?
[01:07] <Newbie_Dude> What's the best way to search for a file throughout the entire file system -- through the GUI not terminal ?
[01:08] <Thursley> stewski, about half the people in this channel? :)
[01:08] <arso> Newbie_Dude:  places, search for a file?
[01:08] <buck> well that didnt work
[01:08] <HEP85> arso: gnome-system-monitor
[01:08] <zyth> there is a gnome system monitor
[01:08] <arso> HEP85:  thank you
[01:08] <HEP85> arso: you can run gconf-editor to change the settings for gnome-terminal (apps/gnome-terminal). maybe you find some error there
[01:08] <arso> zyth:  thank you
[01:08] <buck> i will have to start the rebuilding all over again .. grrr
[01:08] <arso> HEP85:  i'd probably mess it up more.
[01:08] <Newbie_Dude> arso: cool didn't know that was there, thanks
[01:09] <arso> Newbie_Dude:  np
[01:09] <arso> yay i helped someone!
[01:09] <HEP85> arso: can it be more messed up than now? but stay in the apps/gnome-terminal folder!
[01:09] <abedo> HEP85: what differs "ps ax"  to "ps -aux"??
[01:09] <buck> skype install on 64 bit .. my next battle
[01:09] <HEP85> abedo: -aux also displays user names
[01:10] <arso> HEP85:  umm how do i run gconf-editor and get to the gnome-terminal ?
[01:10] <abedo> HEP85: ok
[01:10] <HEP85> arso: open xterm and enter gconf-editor
[01:10] <buck> anyone with 64 bit system that has skype running
[01:11] <pawan> can maxthon be used as an internet browser in ubuntu
[01:11] <buck> i found daves blogs..
[01:11] <HEP85> buck: yes, installed with automatix and afterwards heard it's bad and can break your system
[01:11] <buck> should be able to do it..
[01:11] <zyth> pawan, that'd be a no.  At least not practically.
[01:11] <Newbie_Dude> buck: I'd suggest not using 64-bit, not much software support, but good luck with Skype nonetheless. :P
[01:11] <HEP85> buck: worked for me anyways. but I removed it immediately afterwards. I want no broken system^^
[01:11] <pawan> any other browser than firefox
[01:12] <buck> what you mean .. it like overheats your stufff
[01:12] <arso> HEP85:  i am at gnome-terminal , but i have no idea if anything is wrong or right ;(
[01:12] <zyth> pawan, sure, opera, mozilla, konqueror, epiphany
[01:12] <zyth> pawan, ie6
[01:12] <stewski> you can run various versions of internet explorer under linux
[01:12] <arso> epiphany?
[01:12] <zyth> don't know why you'd want that though
[01:12] <Injen> pawan: I like epiphany  but you might not find my recommendation popular.
[01:12] <Newbie_Dude> pawan: Opera is very good, but no AdBlocker like Firefox. :P
[01:12] <pawan> ok
[01:12] <zyth> firefox is hot.
[01:13] <pawan> great
[01:13] <HEP85> arso: under global I have to times default, one time UTF8, ... and three checked boxes
[01:13] <yu31g7> I think my laptop monitor supports a resolution of 1400 by 1050, but of all the operating systems I've tried (including the default windows installation), only SAM linux has detected this and implemented it. How can I force a 1400 by 1050 resolution?
[01:13] <clouder> does epiphany take add ons like FF?
[01:13] <pawan> any good mp3 players for ubuntu
[01:13] <CheesyMonkey> !fixres | yu31g7
[01:13] <ubotu> yu31g7: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:13] <Toma-> Newbie_Dude: nothing a well configued hosts file cant ctop
[01:13] <Newbie_Dude> pawan: I use Exaile and really like it.
[01:13] <clouder> I personally can't browse the web without adblock and filterset g anymore
[01:14] <Newbie_Dude> Toma-: sounsd complicated :P
[01:14] <askand> Suddenly my internet is very slow..It seems stuck at "waiting for www.google.com" in the statusbar..why?
[01:14] <Toma-> Newbie_Dude: copy + paste? sif!
[01:14] <pawan> how to install it
[01:14] <Injen> Clouder: No, more of the reason I like it, its simple, and fast to boot. Else I'd use firefox
[01:14] <Newbie_Dude> Toma-: How? :) I wanna switch to Opera + host file :D
[01:14] <desper> SuRay
[01:14] <arso> HEP85:  my global is the same.
[01:14] <yu31g7> ubotu: Okay, thank you
[01:14] <desper> SunRay
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about okay, thank you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <desper> SunRay
[01:15] <Toma-> Newbie_Dude: gimme a sec
[01:15] <desper> SunRay
[01:15] <zyth> opera is constantly crashing on my wii.  makes me not want to use it on linux
[01:15] <Newbie_Dude> Toma-: don't worry about it i'll ask you tomorrow, i'm on a mission to find icons :P
[01:15] <clouder> pawan: sudo apt-get install exaile  (i think)
[01:15] <Toma-> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
[01:15] <Toma-> Newbie_Dude: ^^^
[01:15] <Toma-> Newbie_Dude: its a 1 minute job :)
[01:15] <buck> i should just toss my linux than .. no good in 64 bit
[01:16] <Newbie_Dude> pawan: If you want to install programs really easily go to www.getdeb.net ... Lots of programs for Ubuntu there, all you gotta do is double-click to install.
[01:16] <Newbie_Dude> Toma-: ok thanks :)
[01:16] <desper> Some one Help me about SunRay
[01:16] <askand> Suddenly my internet is very slow..It seems stuck at "waiting for www.google.com" in the statusbar..why?
[01:17] <clouder> Newbie_Dude: nice site, thanks
[01:17] <Newbie_Dude> Toma-: amazing, thanks... wow
[01:17] <Newbie_Dude> clouder: lots of good games on there too :) try OpenArena
[01:17] <arso> yay my sound is fixed now :)
[01:17] <mike1234> hi guys just a quick question, when you mount a samba share is there any way you can make it that other people can write to that directory other then root
[01:17] <Toma-> Newbie_Dude: np :) i have this hosts file on every PC i use. havent seen an ad in years
[01:17] <arso> now i am watching a high definition 720p movie, aww the pixels.
[01:18] <kkk> is there anyone who could tell me when will the ubuntu will be a properiatory  software....
[01:18] <arso> HEP85:  can i install kde-terminal and uninstall gnome-terminal or something ?
[01:19] <kkk> arso when u uninstall kde - terminal u cant install xfce terminal
[01:19] <Newbie_Dude> Toma-: :( all the instructions on the page are for Windows, but I downloaded the text file of HOSTS.
[01:19] <HEP85> arso: should work, I think
[01:19] <mOrO^> How does one change the preferred application to open a file?
[01:19] <kkk> no arso it wont HEP85 is lying
[01:20] <pawan> can we use flashget in ubuntu
[01:20] <Toma-> Newbie_Dude: yep. just copy nd past it all into your own hosts file. leave tyhe top part of your file the way it is
[01:20] <PriceChild> pawan, i'd suggest the firefox "download them all" or "dta" extension
[01:20] <Newbie_Dude> Toma-: ok sorry, where's the hosts file
[01:20] <arso> kkk: hmm ?
[01:20] <Toma-> Newbie_Dude: /etc/hosts
[01:20] <HEP85> arso: he left
[01:21] <arso> HEP85:  whats he talking about :S
[01:21] <Thursley> he was being a donkey
[01:21] <arso> haha ok.
[01:21] <HEP85> arso: I think he misunderstood you. he said something about uninstalling kde-terminal
[01:21] <arso> yea.
[01:21] <arso> and xfce :S
[01:21] <pawan> any good download manger for ubuntu
[01:21] <arso> hey what good video player supports allllllll formats?
[01:21] <pepito> needo to know where the tv-time config files are, i need to change the tunner
[01:21] <arso> and i want it really lightweight, vlc isnt working properly.
[01:21] <Music_Shuffle> arso, VLC?
[01:22] <Music_Shuffle> Oh.  Nevermind.
[01:22] <arso> :(
[01:22] <mike1234> kkk, hopefully never
[01:22] <arso> mike1234:  he leftr.
[01:22] <mike1234> ahh yeah sorry
[01:22] <desper> Any One knows about SunRay ??
[01:22] <arso> so guys, any other app, besides VLC that supports everything ?
[01:22] <echosystm> are there any quicker alternatives to vlc?
[01:22] <echosystm> with the same kind of codec support
[01:23] <arso> yea. same question for me.
[01:23] <desper> Help me Please Any One knows about SunRay
[01:23] <zyth> echosystm, mplayer
[01:23] <zyth> with codecs
[01:23] <zyth> actually, anything with codecs.. heh
[01:23] <zyth> !codecs
[01:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:23] <Music_Shuffle> arso, perhaps you too could try mplayer.
[01:23] <echosystm> i cbf installing codecs
[01:23] <Newbie_Dude> Toma-: copy and paste the entire thing? don't modify the existing lines in my hosts file?
[01:23] <echosystm> im not thata cool
[01:23] <arso> Music_Shuffle:  does it have a gui ?
[01:23] <daerid> i'm having a problem with ubuntu studio. whenever I hit ctrl+alt+backspace, I get a blank screen, no command line :(
[01:24] <echosystm> i just want it to work :P
[01:24] <Music_Shuffle> arso, yeah
[01:24] <arso> Music_Shuffle:  i remember trying it last year when i tried ubuntu and it was text based or something
[01:24] <Toma-> Newbie_Dude: yep
[01:24] <zyth> daerid, try ctrl+alt+f2
[01:24] <desper> Help me plz any one know about SunRay on ubuntu ??
[01:24] <desper> Help me plz any one know about SunRay on ubuntu ??
[01:24] <Music_Shuffle> arso, /shudders.  I'm a GUI-lover, my suggestions almost always are too :P
[01:24] <arso> zyth:  and after i install mplayer, will i have to get the codecs seperately?>
[01:24] <desper> Help me plz any one know about SunRay on ubuntu ??
[01:24] <daerid> that works fine, but I'm trying to reconfigure xserver
[01:24] <Music_Shuffle> !patience | desper
[01:24] <ubotu> desper: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:24] <arso> Music_Shuffle:  hehe great :)
[01:24] <Injen> arso: you need to dl the right codecs, it's not vlc.
[01:24] <arso> Injen: could you help me with that?
[01:24] <Newbie_Dude> Toma-: there's two entries for 127.0.0.1 localhost, is that ok?
[01:25] <zyth> arso, just follow the instructions for restrictedformats or add the medibuntu repos, and you can get em
[01:25] <whazilla> hey
[01:25] <whazilla> how do i dualboot latest fiesty with vista ?.?
[01:25] <arso> zyth:  does include coreavc?
[01:25] <Injen> see if i get kicked here.
[01:25] <Injen> Now you would surely want to install all the codecs for playing various media files and the players primarily xine,vlc,mplayer issue the following commands to install the multimedia codecs.
[01:25] <Injen> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse libxine-extracodecs w32codecsvlc mplayer
[01:25] <Injen> This command would install most of the codecs for gstreamer multimedia architecture and vlc media player and Mplayer , as well as the dll files codec (w32codecs) for decoding various files whoose open source decoder are not available.
[01:25] <Toma-> Newbie_Dude: yeh its ok, but you can get rid of it if you like
[01:25] <zyth> arso, coreavc?
[01:25] <Newbie_Dude> Toma-: ok thanks so much :) this is amazing. woo
[01:25] <arso> zyth:  its for highdefinition videos
[01:26] <whazilla> how do i dualboot latest fiesty with vista ?.?
[01:26] <Toma-> Newbie_Dude: np! :D
[01:26] <HEP85> whazilla: you need to delete the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\MountedDevices when booting Vista alone for the last time
[01:26] <arso> Injen:  thank you.
[01:26] <zyth> arso, oh like h264 or whatever?
[01:26] <Injen> arso: http://cca.sg/forum/showthread.php?t=24
[01:26] <jenda> Why is system monitor lying to me? :) It says the CPU is 30-100% used, but when I want to check which process is eating it up, it doesn't tell. Are any processes ommited in that list?
[01:26] <arso> zyth:  yea.
[01:26] <daerid> any ideas?
[01:26] <Injen> Everyone: http://cca.sg/forum/showthread.php?t=24
[01:26] <arso> Injen:  thnkx.
[01:26] <zyth> arso, should work I do believe.
[01:26] <whazilla> heh HEP85 come again ?.?
[01:26] <Injen> sure
[01:26] <arso> zyth:  great.
[01:26] <whazilla> pm ?
[01:26] <Music_Shuffle> jenda, and the list is...sorted?
[01:26] <arso> this why i love ubuntu, great community
[01:27] <Newbie_Dude> Toma-: says i dont have permission to save :-|
[01:27] <mike1234> when mounting a samba share is there anyway i can access that share without being root
[01:27] <HEP85> whazilla: ok
[01:27] <Toma-> Newbie_Dude: sudo obviously :o
[01:27] <mike1234> like a normal user
[01:27] <Toma-> sorry
[01:27] <arso> :(
[01:27] <arso> hey whts the kde terminal called?
[01:27] <arso> kde-terminal? coz that doesnt get any results in synaptic
[01:27] <CheesyMonkey> konsole
[01:27] <arso> ahh yes
[01:28] <arso> i think i like kde better than gnome, last year i tried kubuntu for 2 months
[01:28] <arso> it was a lot easier and simpler than this
[01:29] <nalle303> I need help installing Ubuntu, anyone
[01:29] <arso> nalle303:  what the problem?
[01:29] <Injen> I like KDE also, again not a popular choice amongst die hard nix heads, but gui's are productive, commands lines are well,, command lines.
[01:29] <arso> whats*
[01:29] <desper> I need help installing SunRay on Ubuntu any one plz
[01:29] <arso> Injen:  can i switch to kde now? or would i have to reinstall everything ?
[01:29] <bobn> commandlines rule, dammit
[01:30] <Injen> hehe
[01:30] <Injen> ^die hard nix head
[01:30] <zyth> arso, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop gives you kubuntu essentually
[01:30] <alsuren> arso:konsole
[01:30] <arso> alsuren:  yes, got that 10 mins aog, ty
[01:30] <nalle303> The system freezes when it try to format my partition
[01:30] <arso> zyth:  would that remove gnome?
[01:30] <arso> zyth:  and would i retain all my applications and settings and stuff?
[01:30] <bobn> yup.
[01:30] <zyth> arso, no, it wouldnt remove gnome.
[01:31] <arso> zyth:  so wouldnt that add load to my pc? having both gnome and kde?
[01:31] <zyth> you'd have to uninstall gnome... sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop should do that.
[01:31] <zyth> it'd take up hd space.
[01:31] <Injen> arso: if kde is installed already, just log out and when you log in, select session,, kde. is the clean way.
[01:31] <bobn> I been on Unix since '95 - it was SCO Unix but it still counts, sort of.  And I'm a unix latecomer
[01:31] <arso> Injen:  so when i log in, i have to select kde or gnome ?
[01:32] <Injen> I like kde, hence I select kde
[01:32] <Injen> L(
[01:32] <arso> yay i now have konsole working, and gnome-terminal removed
[01:32] <Injen> removed?
[01:32] <Injen> :/
[01:32] <arso> Thursley:  ur so useless :P
[01:32] <Injen> You can have them both installed
[01:32] <arso> Injen:  it wasnt working fine, it was a white box :S
[01:32] <Thursley> arso, agreed : /
[01:32] <Enselic> When I modprobe -r it says "FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.", how can I find out what program that uses the module?
[01:33] <Injen> And just boot one or the other,, hell you can boot both at the same time, have gnome and kde running :P
[01:33] <arso> Thursley:  ur a lively presence :)
[01:33] <arso> Injen:  sounds scary, i finally have everything working, i dont wanna mess with kde or gnome
[01:33] <Enselic> I'd rather not reboot
[01:33] <zdzichu_> Enselic: lsof /dev/snd/*; probably mixer applet
[01:33] <rtyler> anybody know of any prebuilt Ubuntu/Debian kernel images with usbnet?
[01:34] <EvilBro> I've installed a program from source (using configure and make). This program seems to be put into /usr/local/. Does that mean I can delete the directory I installed from?
[01:34] <arso> Injen:  do you know everything ?
[01:34] <arso> :P
[01:34] <rtyler> Injen: was that to me?
[01:34] <SoulPropagation> So my Qemu VM can't get an IP address. (ipconfig /renew gives Unable To Contact DHCP Server) I'm using a tun interface, what should I do?
[01:34] <nalle303> Im trying to dualboot XP and Ubuntu. Ive made a ext3 and a swap partiton in Partition Magic8. Why do i have to format the ext3 partition during ubuntu install?
[01:34] <Injen> Yea, I agree don;t mess with it.
[01:34] <Enselic> zdzichu_: indeed, thank you
[01:35] <arso> nalle303:  why did u do that, i just started dualbooting xp and ubuntu 2 days ago
[01:35] <arso> nalle303:  i just installed xp, then installed ubuntu, each did its own formatting
[01:35] <nalle303> everytime ubuntu try to format a partition it freezes
[01:35] <Injen> and no, I don't know much, truth be told, I've been on Ubuntu for 3 days now, although I have about 4 years of Debian experience.
[01:36] <pawan> how to install nvidia graphics card driver in ubuntu
[01:36] <arso> !nvidia
[01:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:36] <EvilBro> Anyone? when you use configure/make things get installed into /usr/local/, is this normal?
[01:37] <arso> :O i am becoming useful :D
[01:37] <Newbie_Dude> How do I make my new music program - Exaile - be the default program for opening MP3s?
[01:37] <Thursley> EvilBro, yes
[01:37] <Injen> I have found, all linux distros are the same,, only differ in what packages they come with, I like Ubuntu thus far, because it and kunbutu are the only os that have worked out of the box on my newer dell.
[01:37] <Thursley> Injen, blasphemy!
[01:37] <kevinstonge> I followed the steps on this page (just to get beryl to load on start), and now when I login an empty gedit pops up, and a terminal window pops up. I don't see anything in the two files created that would cause that... how can I fix it?
[01:37] <BaD_CrC> can someone tell me why i can't bridge eth0 and wlan0?   http://pastebin.ca/628553
[01:37] <ari_stress> hello all, finally i'm using ubuntu on my notebook. yayyy! :)
[01:37] <Thursley> congrats ari_stress
[01:37] <EvilBro> Thursley: good (so I haven't messed up yet :) ). can I delete the directory I installed from? (the one that I extracted from the source-tar)
[01:37] <Anlar> Injen: opensuse should work as well usually
[01:38] <bobn> not all the same.  Debian messes around massivleyt with the config files of everything, near as i can tell.
[01:38] <nalle303> is it impossible to install ubuntu without formating? when i already got a new ext3 partition?
[01:38] <bobn> if Ubuntu weren't so tasty, I'd never use debian
[01:38] <Injen> Thursley: Ok, well YOUR version on linux might be better than everyone elses. But the majority of nix filesystems are the same, and hell,,,
[01:38] <Thursley> EvilBro, yes
[01:38] <Injen> Most are built off of Debian anyway.
[01:38] <arso> hey guys, amarok is really slow with me, and slows down the entire pc
[01:39] <BaD_CrC> long live exaile!
[01:39] <pawan> any good antivirus for ubuntu
[01:39] <arso> exaile?
[01:39] <zaggynl> !antivirus
[01:39] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[01:39] <Newbie_Dude> pawan: I was told you don't need an anti-virus.
[01:39] <bobn> Unfortunately, Fedora is a sandbox and CentOS tends to be old.
[01:39] <bobn> so here I am :)
[01:39] <arso> !exaile
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exaile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <Newbie_Dude> pawan: Read this article on why Linux viruses aren't a big threat -- http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[01:40] <Newbie_Dude> arso: exaile is an MP3 player similar to iTunes but less bloated and cooler. :) It is the gnome equivelant of Amarok
[01:40] <Anlar> Injen: usually opensuse is the most polished and best working.. or foresight (which attempts to be upstream and brand new constantly)
[01:40] <EvilBro> Thursley: That does leave me puzzled on one issue though... as I thought the program was in the directory I build from, removing the program seemed easy: just delete the directory. However, as it isn't in that directory, but in /usr/local/, how do I ever get rid of it when that time comes?
[01:40] <BaD_CrC> hah, the exaile website is borked
[01:40] <arso> Newbie_Dude:  oh , do you recommend it?
[01:40] <Newbie_Dude> arso: i'm using it right now, so far it is the best i've found for Ubuntu. I think I got mine from www.getdeb.net
[01:41] <arso> Newbie_Dude:  great, isnt it available through synaptic?
[01:41] <arso> !deb
[01:41] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[01:41] <Injen> I'll give opensuse a few more,, "years"
[01:41] <Kevin4381> I followed the steps on this page (just to get beryl to load on start), and now when I login an empty gedit pops up, and a terminal window pops up. I don't see anything in the two files created that would cause that... how can I fix it?
[01:41] <Injen> They just got hit with a very bad bug.
[01:41] <Thursley> EvilBro, that puzzle is the reason package managers are used to keep track of all this. Hence you will always be advised to use apt/dpkg to install software
[01:41] <Newbie_Dude> arso: it is but an earlier version... www.getdeb.net I believe has a later version. Synaptic programs are updated once every 6 months, at the same time as the new Ubuntu versions are released.
[01:41] <BaD_CrC> the only radio stations needed for Exaile is: SLAY Radio, Nectarine, Kohina and GamingFM
[01:42] <arso> Newbie_Dude:  ah, and isnt there a command to check for updates for already installed programs ors omething?
[01:42] <Newbie_Dude> arso: no idea
[01:42] <arso> 0.2.8 on synaptic
[01:42] <BaD_CrC> 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:42] <Anlar> Injen: what bug?
[01:42] <arso> BaD_CrC:  does that look for updates for everything?
[01:42] <BaD_CrC> then see if the update icon shows up at the top of your screen
[01:43] <BaD_CrC> installed packages
[01:43] <arso> but does it check with synpatic?
[01:43] <arso> or with what?
[01:43] <arso> because synaptic already has an older version
[01:43] <arso> i want to install that, then update it
[01:43] <BaD_CrC> snyaptic is a gui interface to apt-get
[01:43] <arso> ah
[01:43] <arso> so it'll be the same, right?
[01:43] <EvilBro> Thursley: I see. However, pidgin and Maxima 5.12 (the apps I installed manually) weren't available as packages in the repositories. That's why I tried installing them from source in the first place. So I am now doomed to forever have these files on my system? (as I'm not the kind of person who will manually shift through all directories for stray files).
[01:43] <Kevin4381> since installing beryl; all my windows open in the bottom left corner of the screen (rather than the CENTER where they should be)... how can I fix this?
[01:43] <Newbie_Dude> arso: 0.2.8? I'm using 0.2.9.. No idea about synaptic, I got mine from www.getdeb.net
[01:43] <mectx> hello
[01:44] <BaD_CrC> pidgin is available as debs on www.getdeb.net
[01:44] <arso> Newbie_Dude:  yea i found .9 on getdeb
[01:44] <arso> hey the latest ubuntu is feisty right>?
[01:44] <arso> 7.04
[01:44] <CheesyMonkey> yes
[01:45] <BaD_CrC> stable 7.04, testing 7.10
[01:45] <Thursley> EvilBro, have a look at the documentation that came with the sources. Make follows certain defaults as well, but my knowledge is not enough to be able to to tell you how to go about doing this precisly. I have encountered the same problem tho :P
[01:45] <Injen> 2007-02-13 	Portable OpenSSH <= 3.6.1p-PAM / 4.1-SUSE Timing Attack Exploit 	5207 	R		 D 		 Marco Ivaldi
[01:45] <Injen> 2005-11-08 	SuSE Linux <= 9.3, 10 (chfn) Local Root Privilege Escalation Exploit 	6806 	R		D 		Hunger
[01:45] <Injen> 2004-01-15 	SuSE linux 9.0 YaST config Skribt Local Exploit 	3147 	R		D 		l0om
[01:45] <Newbie_Dude> arso: Getdeb.net is nice because it allows newbies like myself to easily install programs, just double-click and it installs.
[01:45] <AlexC_> Hey there guys,
[01:45] <arso> Newbie_Dude:  oh , nice, i thought id be complicated
[01:45] <Injen> The one i had mentioned isnt posted on there aymore.
[01:45] <Injen> :/
[01:45] <Anlar> Injen: so? didn't it take them just a few hours to fix them after announced.. that's just normal maintenance static noise
[01:46] <mectx> excuse me but i have launched a napp then it run but i have lost it windows
[01:46] <mectx> an idea?
[01:46] <EvilBro> Thursley: okay, I'll take a look at those. Thanks.
[01:46] <Anlar> they are not really dangerous anyways either
[01:46] <Newbie_Dude> arso: any file that has the ".DEB" at the end is already packaged. So you double-click and it'll download any needed dependencies. :) I wouldn't make you download some version you had to compile. ;) I can't even do that myself.
[01:46] <arso> hey guys, how old are you ? 18 or under, 18-25 , 25-35 , 35+
[01:46] <joshua__> 25
[01:46] <mectx> 26
[01:46] <CheesyMonkey> 16 :)
[01:46] <arso> Newbie_Dude:  great,
[01:46] <mike1234> 21
[01:46] <arso> i am 17
[01:46] <joshua__> what's the command to see what version of ubuntu i'm running?
[01:46] <Newbie_Dude> arso: 25, but ask in #ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of thing :)
[01:46] <nalle303> is it possible to skip the "formating partition" stage during ubuntu install when i already got a ext3 partition?
[01:46] <AlexC_> I've got a cron job that updates an SVN working copy every 4 hours - however, when it does that it obviously resets the ownership of the files to the user who did the checkout. I need to also do "sudo chown www-data /path/to/file.xml" - however, would that not ask for my password?
[01:46] <arso> i was just wondering :P
[01:47] <mectx> excuse me but i have launched a napp then it run but i have lost it windows  any body can helo me?
[01:47] <Thursley> joshua__, lsb -a
[01:47] <arso> CheesyMonkey:  phew! ur the only one younger than me :P
[01:47] <Kevin4381> since installing beryl; all my windows open in the bottom left corner of the screen (rather than the CENTER where they should be)... how can I fix this?
[01:47] <joshua__> Thursley: Thanks buddy
[01:47] <CheesyMonkey> arso, Ahhh welll =D
[01:47] <Thursley> lsb_release joshua__
[01:47] <arso> CheesyMonkey:  where r u from?
[01:47] <AlexC_> arso: this isn't a dating agency,
[01:47] <arso> :S
[01:47] <MBR> hello folks
[01:47] <AlexC_> arso: #ubunut-offtopic
[01:47] <Newbie_Dude> !offtopic | arso
[01:47] <ubotu> arso: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:47] <MBR> i'm not here to date. lol
[01:47] <arso> omg . fine.
[01:48] <joshua__> Thursley: Not working in terminal.
[01:48] <MBR> actually i'm looking for a little assistance
[01:48] <Thursley> joshua__, lsb_release -a
[01:48] <arso> MBR:  whats wrong?
[01:48] <CheesyMonkey> arso, Manchester UK
[01:48] <MBR> well no real problems
[01:48] <joshua__> alright. just seeing if my gutsy upgrade worked. WOO
[01:48] <arso> CheesyMonkey:  sorry, we cant date.
[01:48] <intgr> Hi, I just tried to boot off the Ubuntu 7.04 LiveCD on my laptop, but it fails in the initrd; there's a .log file in the root which says that mounting CD-ROM failed.
[01:48] <MBR> i'm wondering if ubuntu 7.04 supports booting to console instead of gnome
[01:48] <CheesyMonkey> arso, Haha ^^
[01:49] <Cook> What are the benefits of joining Ubuntu machine to WIn domain? Anyone tried yet?
[01:49] <Anlar> intgr: try going to your bios setting and turning on legacy emulation for your disc drives etc
[01:49] <arso> installing exaile now. seems interesting
[01:49] <intgr> Anlar: Ok, thanks, will try.
[01:49] <Kevin4381> when using beryl, new windows open in bottom left; when using compiz, new windows open on top left ... somebody's got to know why! and how to fix it?
[01:49] <MBR> btw i'm very green to ubuntu
[01:49] <arso> do i have to remove amarok? or is it fine if i have both, does it affect performance? or only harddisk space?
[01:49] <CheesyMonkey> arso, Its fine....hard disk is about it :)
[01:50] <AlexC_> Kevin4381: System->Prefs->CompizConfig Settings
[01:50] <BaD_CrC> ok, knoversation is beginning to tick me off because it keeps loading konqueror...
[01:50] <Newbie_Dude> arso: personally i'd get rid of amarok first (i'm a freak like that) but it won't affect performance
[01:50] <BaD_CrC> ack i can't type this morning
[01:50] <AlexC_> kevingo to Window Management->Place Window
[01:50] <BaD_CrC> not enough coffee
[01:50] <CheesyMonkey> Newbie_Dude, Same here....if im running GNOME I hate having anything kde installed :)
[01:50] <Kevin4381> AlexC_:  I don't have that item in my menu...
[01:50] <arso> Newbie_Dude:  i see, i would remove it anyway, dont want unwanted apps
[01:50] <AlexC_> Kevin4381: ah, you running compiz and not compiz fusion?
[01:50] <mike1234> how can normal users access mounted shares
[01:51] <arso> whats the command for uninstalling amarok please>
[01:51] <Kevin4381> dont' think its fusion
[01:51] <AlexC_> arso: sudo apt-get remove name-of-package
[01:51] <Kevin4381> I installed ubuntu, then installed beryl.. thats it
[01:51] <arso> AlexC_:  great thnx.
[01:51] <Kevin4381> so whatever comes w/feisty or beryl is what I'm runing
[01:51] <AlexC_> Kevin4381: ok - I'm not sure on that, never used that one sorry
[01:51] <BaD_CrC> arso: sudo apt-get remove amarok
[01:51] <arso> BaD_CrC:  thank you.
[01:52] <AlexC_> I've got a cron job that updates an SVN working copy every 4 hours - however, when it does that it obviously resets the ownership of the files to the user who did the checkout. I need to also do "sudo chown www-data /path/to/file.xml" - however, would that not ask for my password?
[01:52] <MBR> do i go to /etc to change booting options ? i want to boot to the console instead of going right in to gnome
[01:52] <arso> how do i assign a hotkey to run Konsole?
[01:52] <Kevin4381> ok; I might just quit using beryl. the flames are fun though :-D
[01:52] <CheesyMonkey> Kevin4381, Fusion is way better :)
[01:52] <Newbie_Dude> CheesyMonkey: even though there's nothing wrong with having KDE stuff running, I agree, I'd rather not have them there :}
[01:52] <AlexC_> Kevin4381: compiz fusion means you can WRITE in fire!
[01:52] <Kevin4381> CheesyMonkey:  - should I UNINSTALL beryl and INSTALL fusion?
[01:52] <arso> !fusion
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <arso> whats fusion
[01:53] <AlexC_> arso: merged version of Compiz and Beryl
[01:53] <ManaPirat> hi :-)
[01:53] <Ominous> !compiz-fusion
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <arso> whats compiz :P
[01:53] <CheesyMonkey> Kevin4381, They'll be guides somewhere pal
[01:53] <SanjayB> !compiz
[01:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:53] <arso> i know beryl tho, PHEW!
[01:53] <PriceChild> AlexC_, Kevin4381 CheesyMonkey arso please go to #ubuntu-effects for compositing talk
[01:53] <CheesyMonkey> PriceChild, Sorry <3
[01:53] <arso> PriceChild:  whats compositing :P
[01:53] <Kevin4381> thanks
[01:53] <PriceChild> arso, please don't be cheeky...
[01:53] <arso> PriceChild:  srsly, i dont know :(
[01:53] <ManaPirat> i am using Ubuntu 7.04 and though Universe and the tthird-party repository for wine are enabled "wine" cannot be found
[01:53] <PriceChild> arso, then go to #ubuntu-effects and ask?
[01:54] <arso> ~<~ k
[01:54] <ManaPirat> can somebody give me a hint on that? :-/
[01:54] <PriceChild> ManaPirat, have you "sudo apt-get update"'d ?
[01:54] <ManaPirat> i used the "reload" button inb synaptic
[01:54] <PriceChild> sorry i don't know then
[01:55] <LadyNikon> wine cant be found?
[01:55] <druigrok> hello, i have a specific question, can someone help me?
[01:55] <ManaPirat> yep though unverse was active
[01:55] <AlexC_> druigrok: no one can if you don't ask it
[01:55] <PriceChild> druigrok, ask the question :)
[01:55] <ManaPirat> i instaleld the wine-repos as an attempt to fix that
[01:55] <druigrok> lol
[01:55] <ManaPirat> moment
[01:55] <PriceChild> ManaPirat, actually, can you pastebin your sources.list?
[01:56] <SecrethX> How can I mount an ntfs partition, so its not read-only, but I can write to it?
[01:56] <CheesyMonkey> !ntfs-3g | SecrethX
[01:56] <druigrok> i want to install ubuntu server in our cybercafe. is here a time/cost counting system i can useR?
[01:56] <ubotu> SecrethX: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:56] <Cook> Is there anything similar to MAgic Mail Monitor under Win? Some small POP checker?
[01:56] <ari_stress> SecrethX: i'd suggest you dont. writing to ntfs is still experimental
[01:56] <ManaPirat> PriceChild .. uhm, dont know if thats neccessary .. i just saw that the gpg-kexyfor the wine repos was missing
[01:56] <PriceChild> druigrok, so for example that you can monitor how long people are logged on, and how much they then owe etc. ?
[01:56] <ManaPirat> its found now
[01:56] <SecrethX> CheesyMonkey, yes but its not working.. I used ntfs-config, the first option is disabled and the second one isnt needed
[01:57] <druigrok> yes
[01:57] <PriceChild> ManaPirat, shouldn't have mattered... but working now?
[01:57] <ManaPirat> but shouldn't it be found without any other rpos ?
[01:57] <ManaPirat> yes working now :-)
[01:57] <SecrethX> ari_stress, I really need this ;p I have 152gig that I need to write somewhere :o
[01:57] <stefg> !info gnubiff | Cook
[01:57] <PriceChild> druigrok, googling for you
[01:57] <druigrok> thanks!
[01:57] <ManaPirat> it wants to install ie32-libs .. so this is the workarround for 64-bit ubuntu hm?
[01:58] <ubotu> cook: gnubiff: A mail notification program for GNOME (and others). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.3-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 501 kB, installed size 1636 kB
[01:58] <mike1234> i have just mounted a samba share, but only root can add things to this, is there anyway i can change this
[01:58] <ManaPirat> ubuntu-support is great :-))
[01:58] <Kevin4381> ubuntu seems to be saving my sessions - I told it not to anymore...
[01:58] <SanjayB> SecrethX, Ari: the new ntfs-3g seems to work stable for me now -- have been writing to my windows partition for the past month without any problems\
[01:58] <arso> where can i get help n info on themes/
[01:58] <ari_stress> SecrethX: well you try the ntfs-ng
[01:58] <stefg> !themes | arso
[01:58] <ubotu> arso: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:58] <Kevin4381> when I log in, xchat was already running
[01:59] <ari_stress> SanjayB: really? that;s good news!
[01:59] <SecrethX> SanjayB, cool, but I cant mount it without the readonly option it seems :S
[01:59] <SecrethX> ari_stress, ntfs-ng? :S never heared of..
[01:59] <SanjayB> SecrethX: have you installed ntfs-3g -- its available on Synaptic .
[01:59] <SecrethX> SanjayB, yes
[01:59] <arso> stefg:  i am at gnome-look now, umm the main theme that i use, which section would it be in on the left?
[02:00] <SanjayB> ari_stress: yes. was never stable for me earlier, and am quite a noob as well -- but its been pretty straightforward and has worked with the out-of-the-box install off Synaptic .
[02:00] <SanjayB> SecrethX: you might need to make sure your NTFS partition is mounted using ntfs-3g - one sec. lemme see how i do it:- )
[02:00] <mike1234> is there anyway to change the permisions on a monted samba share
[02:00] <PriceChild> druigrok, there seems to be lots of commercial apps which you must pay for... still searching, there must be something out there :)
[02:01] <SecrethX> SanjayB, ok :)
[02:01] <chakka> i have downloaded a freespire cd and is corrupted so will i be able to patch work on the downloaded thing rather than downloading again?????
[02:01] <druigrok> thanks!
[02:01] <druigrok> i hope there is
[02:01] <AlexC_> chakka: gotta get it again,
[02:01] <druigrok> i want to run it on ubuntu terminal server if possible
[02:01] <N-drew> Hi! Does anyone know, how could I change character coding in tty? The Hungarian characters are unreadable.
[02:01] <chakka> is there any other way...
[02:02] <mind_shift> oes ayone use DC_gui? I need some help with the public list, I don't know how to load a hublist
[02:02] <chakka> is there any way Alex
[02:02] <arso> whats GTK ?
[02:02] <arso> !gtk
[02:02] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[02:03] <trekkme> is there a tool with wich i can simply download .rm files via rtsp:// protokoll?
[02:03] <chakka> is there any jigdo file for freespire if there from where will i get
[02:03] <SanjayB> SecrethX: Unmount the NTFS part. first. then re-mount using "mount ntfs-3g <device> <mount-point>" or just "ntfs-3g <dev> <mount-point>" - for eg. i use "ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda1"
[02:03] <chakka> i have downloaded a freespire cd and is corrupted so will i be able to patch work on the downloaded thing rather than downloading again?????
[02:03] <SecrethX> SanjayB, ok ill try, hold on
[02:03] <AlexC_> !repeat | chakka
[02:03] <ubotu> chakka: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:04] <chakka> AlexC : i have downloaded a freespire cd and is corrupted so will i be able to patch work on the downloaded thing rather than downloading again?????.... Is there any freespire jigdo available if yes from where will i get
[02:04] <arso> how can i install a gtk theme?
[02:04] <SanjayB> SecrethX: But I also recommend you read up a little on ntfs-3g and make sure you have other updates, etc. installed before using it . It is still a little risky, I believe .
[02:05] <intgr> Anlar: The only thing I could change from the BIOS was ATA/AHCI and that didn't change anything.
[02:05] <AlexC_> chakka: that's the 3rd time you've said now, I answered you the first time - stop repeating
[02:05] <PriceChild> druigrok, I've found http://openkiosk.sourceforge.net/ which is kde and seems nice to keep things locked down.
[02:05] <druigrok> thanks a lot!
[02:05] <PriceChild> druigrok, I don't think it will manage time etc. though... *looks*
[02:05] <druigrok> i gonna figure it out
[02:05] <chakka> sorry alexc is there anyone else who knows : i have downloaded a freespire cd and is corrupted so will i be able to patch work on the downloaded thing rather than downloading again?????.... Is there any freespire jigdo available if yes from where will i get
[02:05] <SecrethX> SanjayB, yes I know, and I know about ntfs-3g (I've read an article about it) but I never used it, and Im helping a friend of mine who cant speak english :p
[02:05] <PriceChild> druigrok, wait it does :D
[02:05] <PriceChild> druigrok, that looks perfect if you're happy with kde and not gnome?
[02:05] <AlexC_> chakka: 4th time now, stop repeating you're question!
[02:06] <desper> root@SunRay:/opt/SUNWut/sbin# ./utconfig
[02:06] <desper> utconfig: fatal, Sun Ray Data store 2.2 is not installed on this host
[02:06] <druigrok> oh...
[02:06] <desper> need help
[02:06] <chakka> i need some answers/
[02:06] <druigrok> im running gnome now...
[02:06] <desper> root@SunRay:/opt/SUNWut/sbin# ./utconfig
[02:06] <desper> utconfig: fatal, Sun Ray Data store 2.2 is not installed on this host
[02:06] <PriceChild> druigrok, you want gnome?
[02:06] <chakka> is there anyone who could help me
[02:06] <druigrok> yes
[02:06] <AlexC_> chakka: that does not mean you repeat your question _4_ times, wait.
[02:06] <arso> AlexC_:  can u help me with installing gtk themes?
[02:06] <PriceChild> druigrok, why do you "want" gnome? :P
[02:06] <AlexC_> arso: drag-drop it in to System->Prefs->Themes
[02:06] <Thursley> druigrok, also have a look at http://sourceforge.net/projects/cybera/
[02:06] <PriceChild> druigrok, remember that users will be using what...? firefox... perhaps kopete?
[02:06] <MBR> how to i change the booting options for ubuntu 7.04? i want to boot right to console instead of booting directly in to gnome.
[02:06] <chakka> : i have downloaded a freespire cd and is corrupted so will i be able to patch work on the downloaded thing rather than downloading again?????.... Is there any freespire jigdo available if yes from where will i get
[02:06] <druigrok> wee using cybera now
[02:07] <arso> Alex the whole folder?
[02:07] <druigrok> but it doesnt run on linux
[02:07] <arso> AlexC_:  the whole folder?
[02:07] <Thursley> druigrok, ow, my bad then
[02:07] <PriceChild> druigrok, will they even care if its firefox and not konqueror etc. ?
[02:07] <Kevin4381> I can't get gnome to start up now.
[02:07] <AlexC_> PriceChild: mr. chakka here insists on repeating his question every min,it's the 5th time now,
[02:07] <DjViper> !offtopic | chakka
[02:07] <ubotu> chakka: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:07] <Newbie_Dude> How do I run a .PL file? Particularly, I'm installing vmware-server.pl and the instructions say type "sudo vmware-pl" but I get a "command not found"
[02:07] <druigrok> i dont think they will
[02:07] <PriceChild> druigrok, what other apps do they use?
[02:07] <AlexC_> arso: if it's a folder, put it into ~/.themes (you'll have to view hidden files/folders)
[02:07] <druigrok> im gonna try kde openkiosk
[02:07] <Kevin4381> can somebody tell me how to fix ubuntu when it breaks :)
[02:08] <PriceChild> chakka, We don't support freespire here. please try their forums or channels etc.
[02:08] <Kevin4381> it seems like everything I do breaks it.
[02:08] <druigrok> btw i have kde at home
[02:08] <Kevin4381> and its not easy to fix.. I even kept track of what I did this time.. so I could do it backwards
[02:08] <Kevin4381> and its broke again
[02:08] <LiLW> hey I have a problem installing Ubuntu Studio, can someone help me?
[02:08] <druigrok> pricechild, can ubuntu server run kde?
[02:08] <vranac> What was the name of that POP mail checker? Sorry...
[02:08] <AlexC_> druigrok: why would you want a DE on a Server?
[02:08] <PriceChild> druigrok, ubuntu server is just the very bare bones of ubuntu
[02:08] <arso> AlexC_:  how do i view hidden filesp lease?
[02:08] <PriceChild> druigrok, its like a minimal install
[02:09] <Almighty_Henaro> IS there any camcorder through  FireWire programs for linux?
[02:09] <Newbie_Dude> How do I run a .pl file
[02:09] <AlexC_> arso: View->Shown Hidden Files
[02:09] <arso> AlexC_:  thnx a lot
[02:09] <PriceChild> druigrok, ubuntu and kubuntu use the same software sources, and you could even have both gnome and kde installed at once.
[02:09] <druigrok> i will go try some things out now
[02:09] <druigrok> thanks
[02:09] <druigrok> i might be back later
[02:09] <LiLW> is there someone that can help me installing ubuntu studio? if I update it from feisty fawn it gives an error at the audio packages
[02:09] <chakka> is there any good way to change the screen resolution in kde???
[02:10] <druigrok> great service.. great channel
[02:10] <PriceChild> LiLW, #ubuntustudio
[02:10] <chakka> is there any good way to change the screen resolution in kde???
[02:10] <PriceChild> good luck druigrok
[02:10] <PriceChild> chakka, try #kubuntu and please stop repeating
[02:10] <chakka> is there any good way to change the screen resolution in kde???
[02:10] <arso> AlexC_:  umm , do i just type ~/.themes in the address bar?
[02:11] <AlexC_> arso: ~/ is short for /home/username
[02:11] <Seoke> When I try to put in my Talladega Nights DVD I get the error "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Talladega_Nights'."  What should I do to fix this?
[02:11] <AlexC_> arso: so, go into you're ~/ folder (home folder) and go View->Shown Hidden Files and you will see the folder .themes
[02:11] <Newbie_Dude> I am trying to install VMWare Server.. During one of the steps it says to type "sudo vmware-install.pl" but I get "command not found" I asked in VMWare they said it's an Ubuntu problem and to ask here. ;_;
[02:11] <PriceChild> Newbie_Dude, sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[02:11] <arso> AlexC_:  i see, i did that, and i put the folder of the theme in .themes, but it still doesnt show up in system>prefs>themes
[02:11] <PriceChild> Newbie_Dude, whilst in the same directory
[02:12] <Newbie_Dude> PriceChild: you are amazing :)
[02:12] <PriceChild> Newbie_Dude, the ./ tells it to look in the same location... otherwise it looks in your PATH
[02:12] <PriceChild> Newbie_Dude, once its installed, if you want to do sudo vmware-config.pl then you DON'T use the ./ as you do want it to look in your PATH and not current directory
[02:13] <MBR> how do you change the boot option to boot directly in to console instead of gnome?
[02:13] <BaD_CrC> *hiss* it's starting to get daylight
[02:13] <Newbie_Dude> what do you mean "in my PATH" you mean in the directory I am currently in in the terminal?
[02:13] <PriceChild> Newbie_Dude, in a terminal type "echo $PATH"
[02:14] <Qeyz> echo $PATH
[02:14] <Seoke> When I try to put in my Talladega Nights DVD I get the error "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Talladega_Nights'."  What should I do to fix this?
[02:14] <PriceChild> Newbie_Dude, it will then list the locations on your system that it searches, to find what you typed whenever you run a command
[02:14] <Qeyz> upppsss
[02:14] <arso> AlexC_:  are you there?
[02:14] <Qeyz> sorry
[02:14] <SoulPropagation> So my Qemu VM can't get an IP address. (ipconfig /renew gives Unable To Contact DHCP Server) I'm using a tun interface, what should I do?
[02:14] <Newbie_Dude> PriceChild: wow, that's crazy
[02:14] <pringat> hi, when I do "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" in feisty I get "md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz"and "The Flash plugin is NOT installed.". How can this be solved?
[02:14] <arso> hey guys , i am having trouble installing a theme.
[02:15] <zoom> hello friends !! i want to lunch my iptables rule at the start up i now it's with init.d and rc3.d but wheure can i found doc to now the number of the link SXX.iptable please
[02:15] <arso> i am dropping the uncompressed theme folder into .theme
[02:15] <arso> but its still not showing up in system>preferences>themes
[02:15] <newbie77> hi all. i can't get my add/remove to run. anybody help me please
[02:16] <Anlar> pringat: why not sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfee ? :)
[02:16] <Newbie_Dude> Unable to build the vmon module. ;_;
[02:16] <arso> PriceChild:  can u help me with the theme thing?
[02:16] <PriceChild> erm
[02:16] <Music_Shuffle> Anlar, nonfree**
[02:16] <pringat> Anlar: which is the difference?
[02:16] <PriceChild> arso, try using the install button on the theme dialogue, and openning the theme tar.gz from there
[02:16] <nikin> hy.. i ame trying to use hdparm in 7.04 but i get input output errors.. the drive is sda but it is an IDE drive
[02:16] <arso> PriceChild:  ok.
[02:17] <Anlar> pringat: less work and automatic updates
[02:17] <pringat> Anlar: go you think that it matters?
[02:17] <PriceChild> nikin, yeah everything gets handled by libata now
[02:17] <Qeyz> arso, why don't you try to install it from the Theme Manager itself?
[02:17] <PriceChild> nikin, but i don't know about your problem sorry
[02:17] <arso> Qeyz:  how?
[02:17] <Anlar> pringat: yes, as you don't gain _anything_ extra from doing manually
[02:17] <pringat> Anlar: can you give me more info please?
[02:17] <stefg> nikin: hdparm and libata don't along. Doesn't work if your drive is handled as scsi
[02:17] <ManaPirat> is there a way to install flash on 64-bit ubuntu<? :-)
[02:17] <PriceChild> !flash64 | ManaPirat
[02:18] <ManaPirat> !flash64
[02:18] <ManaPirat> ;)
[02:18] <ManaPirat> your bot sleeps
[02:18] <abedo> hey guys , any help about reverse Shell (using ssh)
[02:18] <PriceChild> ubotu, ping
[02:18] <ubotu> ManaPirat: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:18] <ubotu> pong
[02:18] <Qeyz> arso: System >> Preference >> Themes, and drag'n dropping your file there
[02:18] <pringat> PriceChild: you are right, I'm running amd64
[02:18] <PriceChild> there we go :)
[02:18] <ari_stress> abedo: what do you mean reverse?
[02:18] <Qeyz> arso: or just klik the install theme button
[02:18] <ManaPirat> thanks i'll check it out
[02:18] <arso> Qeyz:  ok i did that,
[02:18] <arso> Qeyz:  it said theme correctly installed
[02:18] <pringat> PriceChild: let me read this info you've given
[02:19] <arso> Qeyz:  but the theme stil doesnt show up in the list
[02:19] <nikin> stefg :D and how is libata with speed? should i look for a ay to diesable libata, and use hdparm ?
[02:19] <newbie77> add/remove cannot open
[02:19] <newbie77> help me please
[02:19] <PriceChild> newbie77, why not, what does it say?
[02:19] <Qeyz> arso: try to browse into the theme details
[02:19] <newbie77> it doesn't say anything
[02:19] <abedo> ari_stress: it's called that , I can login to my friend's PC via ssh to a server
[02:19] <newbie77> it just won't open
[02:20] <arso> PriceChild: Qeyz i used install theme, and clicked on the .tar.gz and it said theme installed correctly, but it still doenst show up
[02:20] <stefg> nikin: stop worrying, all is good :-)
[02:20] <PriceChild> arso, I don't know then sorry.
[02:20] <ari_stress> abedo: so you want people to be able to login to your box? sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:20] <PriceChild> arso, sure the individual items aren't there?
[02:20] <nikin> stefg: so 21 MB/sec is the most i can get out of my hd?
[02:20] <arso> PriceChild: what do u mean?
[02:20] <PriceChild> even though it doesn't show a one on the main bit
[02:20] <ubutom> newbie77, if you have synaptic open, close it
[02:20] <PriceChild> arso, well there are several pieces to a theme
[02:21] <Qeyz> arso, it might not a "full theme", you can make sure by browse the Theme Details
[02:21] <stefg> nikin: what type of hd? how old? waht's the PCI us speed?
[02:21] <arso> PriceChild:  the ones inside the folder after i uncompress it?
[02:21] <arso> Qeyz:  ok.
[02:21] <PriceChild> arso, no, on the themes gui
[02:21] <Qeyz> just click the theme details or details button, something like that i guess
[02:21] <arso> Qeyz: PriceChild: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/TGT4-Chrome?content=62674 this is the theme
[02:21] <newbie77> i've restarted system, open nothing
[02:22] <arso> PriceChild:  but its not showing up on the themes gui
[02:22] <newbie77> still, it won't run
[02:22] <nikin> stefg: p3 board... ATA66 , hd is Maxtor 120Gb  8 Mb cache
[02:22] <arso> PriceChild:  brb, toielt.
[02:22] <stefg> nikin: should deliver around 30Mb/s, but i think the host controller limits taht
[02:23] <AlexC_> Hey, if I write a bash script to update an SVN working copy and then change some permissions on a file - do I put it in /usr/bin ?
[02:23] <wonka071> hello all
[02:23] <nikin> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801AA IDE (rev 02)
[02:23] <erUSUL> AlexC_: /usr/local/bin/
[02:23] <ari_stress> AlexC_: it's better in /usr/local/bin
[02:23] <seon> hello i had a windows partition and i was beginning an ubuntu install in a free partition but i miss my click and ubuntu has formatted my windows partition , can i found a linux software to recover it
[02:24] <PriceChild> seon, i'd advise you to send it off to a data recovery centre if its really worth it...
[02:24] <AlexC_> erUSUL: ari_stress ok thanks for that - also, in my script I will have chown group /path/to/file. A normal user wont have permission to do that, how can I in the bash script check if the user has permission etc?
[02:24] <arso> PriceChild:  ok, back.
[02:24] <wonka071> is anybody using ubuntu ultimate gamer ed ?
[02:24] <arso> PriceChild:  so is it a complete theme?
[02:24] <seon> PriceChild> ok
[02:25] <newbie77> do i have to reinstall add/remove?
[02:25] <PriceChild> arso, I don't know
[02:25] <nikin> stefg :( i as thinking i could get around 60 ... :( so my only home is SCSI
[02:25] <nikin> hope*
[02:25] <PriceChild> newbie77, It should be there if you're looking in the right place
[02:25] <PriceChild> newbie77, whoops not to you
[02:25] <ari_stress> AlexC_: as long as the user has the permission, the script will run OK. otherwise it will error
[02:25] <AlexC_> cool ok,
[02:25] <PriceChild> arso, it should be there if you're looking int he right place, choose edit theme or whatever and use that to check all the pieces
[02:25] <ubutom> newbie77, if you have synaptic open, close it, as there can always run just one instance of the package application.
[02:26] <arso> PriceChild:  but the theme isnt getting added to the list, so i cant edit it, it says the theme was added correctly, but its NOT showing up in the list
[02:26] <ubutom> newbie77, then try to open add/remove again
[02:26] <stefg> nikin: it's not the disk, it's the speed of the bus
[02:26] <newbie77> i'm not running synaptic
[02:26] <PriceChild> arso, there isn't just one thing to look through though
[02:26] <seon> last question : i need to install an ubuntu server, but in the partitionning i can only have three partition why?
[02:26] <PriceChild> arso, there's several lists, icons, borders etc.e tc.
[02:27] <Qeyz> arso: just choose any other theme and click on details or whatever
[02:27] <arso> Qeyz:  ok, and?
[02:27] <Qeyz> arso,and try to find your theme there
[02:27] <arcad3> how can i setup the refresh rate to a bigger value
[02:27] <kidbuntu> !frostwire
[02:27] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[02:27] <ari_stress> seon: how many partitions it will show up you expect?
[02:27] <nkbreau> just installed ubuntu... can somone reccomend a good mail client i can use to interface to my gmail account ?
[02:27] <nikin> stefg : i see... so unless i get an IDE controller for AGP :) i cant do better... or if i strow my dual P3 maschine from the 5th floor and get something with PCI-E :D
[02:28] <Qeyz> arso, just browse it carefully and see if there's something like the theme you've installed there
[02:28] <arso> Qeyz:  it worked, i am using the new theme now :) thnx
[02:28] <ari_stress> nkbreau: anything will do: kmail, evolution, thunderbird
[02:28] <seon> ari_stress> i have swap, /, /home and i can with the free space have a /var or /usr
[02:28] <stefg> nikin: second hd with  raid0 on lvm
[02:28] <wonka071> i have a install error in ultimate gamer GNOME setting deamon error ?
[02:28] <Qeyz> arso, your welcome
[02:28] <arso> Qeyz:  i edited the current theme, then clicked install at and selected the .tar.gz
[02:28] <Qeyz> arso, to see you made it
[02:28] <newbie77> clicked Add/Remove, > "Starting Add/Remove...." > nothing happened
[02:28] <nikin> stefg: i see.. but if the bus is the limit... what is the diferencE?
[02:28] <ari_stress> seon: if you have already used all the partition, you cannot add new partition
[02:29] <arso> Qeyz:  too bad the theme sucks :P
[02:29] <stefg> nikin: you're using two channels
[02:29] <arso> Qeyz:  i have to find another, lol
[02:29] <arso> !h.264
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about h.264 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <ari_stress> arso: lol
[02:29] <arso> ari_stress:  :P
[02:29] <Qeyz> arso, hihihi, that's another problem i guess? :p
[02:29] <arcad3> !xork
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <arcad3> !xorg
[02:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:29] <arso> Qeyz:  yep , but i know how to do it now.
[02:29] <seon> ari_stress> what is all the partition, i have 80 GB, and after swap , / and /home i have 40gb FREE
[02:29] <arso> can anyone help me with h.264 codecs/?
[02:29] <arcad3> !refresh rate
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about refresh rate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <nikin> stefg : and so i can get about 150% of the speed of 1 hd... or 200 ?
[02:29] <delphine> LUT
[02:30] <seon> ari_stress> maybe i have a limit number?
[02:30] <SoulPropagation> So my Qemu VM (Windows XP) can't talk to the host or the internet, I'm using TAP, what should I do?
[02:30] <Qeyz> arso: have you tried ffmpeg?
[02:30] <delphine> ?
[02:30] <arso> Qeyz:  no, i'll get it now.
[02:30] <arcad3> how can i modify the refresh rate for my PC that is using Ubuntu?
[02:30] <arso> Qeyz:  its in synaptic?
[02:30] <arcad3> from 50 to 85 Hz?
[02:30] <stefg> nikin: closer to 150%, but seek time will still be the same. STR (sustained transfer rate) is not everything
[02:30] <Qeyz> arso: yuppp
[02:30] <delphine> YOPP
[02:31] <Qeyz> arso: or you can type in the console something like: apt-cache search ffmpeg
[02:31] <delphine> ^^^
[02:31] <Qeyz> arso, don't forget the sudo
[02:31] <Qeyz> :p
[02:31] <ari_stress> seon: you can always backup your data to another pc, and install new into the disk, but this time make the partitions you need
[02:31] <delphine> bom chika wawa
[02:31] <arcad3> !ubunutu alien
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubunutu alien - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <arso> Qeyz:  ok, i'll try now
[02:32] <nikin> stefg: i wanted this speed for transfering huge files over LAN ..
[02:32] <seon> ari_stress> i understand but why i can have many partition
[02:32] <arso> Qeyz: sudo: apt_cache: command not found
[02:32] <flush> yo anyone familiar with bnc
[02:32] <stefg> nikin: 100M-lan typically gives you 3-6 Mb/s. simply stop worrying
[02:33] <Qeyz> arso, if you're not familiar with the terminal, just use synaptic instead
[02:33] <nikin> stefg : gigabit LAN is also limited by bus?
[02:33] <stefg> nikin: of course. Gigbit lan in a P3 is nonsense
[02:34] <arso> Qeyz:  ok.
[02:34] <ari_stress> btw, anyone using ubuntu with gnome in a notebook now?
[02:34] <arso> Qeyz:  synaptic tells me i already have the ffmpeg codec library
[02:35] <nikin> stefg :D good to know :D hmmm , now i understand that i shouldnt go to the pub every time i had Hardware based classes :D
[02:35] <Qeyz> ari_stress: i think almost everyone here using it right now
[02:35] <arso> Qeyz:  but mplayer cant play a h.264 mkv
[02:35] <SoulPropagation> ari_stress: yes right now why
[02:35] <Qeyz> :p
[02:35] <_wattazoum_> ari_stress, yep
[02:35] <ari_stress> my battery indication said that the remaining power is 1 hour 30 minutes, but the "green" color on is only a bit left
[02:35] <SoulPropagation> ari_stress: batteries are weird
[02:35] <Qeyz> arso: hmmmm, maybe it's on another codec list
[02:36] <abedo> ari_stress: I 'm behind NAT ??
[02:36] <arso> Qeyz:  i dont know any :(
[02:36] <Qeyz> arso: you better googling for it first, coz i think i forgot the package name, sorry
[02:36] <ari_stress> SoulPropagation: i guess so, that's why i immediately plugged the power on. i dont want to take any chances of sudden death :D
[02:36] <arso> Qeyz:  ok, np
[02:36] <SoulPropagation> ari_stress: :D
[02:36] <ari_stress> abedo: what do you mean?
[02:37] <SoulPropagation> So my Qemu VM (Windows XP) can't talk to the host or the internet, I'm using TAP, is there anything I can do? I set a static IP and it sees the connection
[02:37] <abedo> ari_stress: I have private  IP (192.168....)
[02:38] <abedo> ari_stress: I mean not real IP
[02:38] <arso> Qeyz:  found this in synaptic libx264-dev
[02:38] <arso> Qeyz:  does it sound right?
[02:38] <newbie77> clicked Add/Remove, > "Starting Add/Remove...." > nothing happened, even after system restart. help meee
[02:38] <Qeyz> arso, not very sure, but just give it a try
[02:39] <Qeyz> arso, and btw, have you installed the win32 codec yet?
[02:39] <arso> Qeyz:  ok, btw any codecs i download, become in effect on all media players, right ?>
[02:39] <pommer> hehe
[02:39] <Qeyz> arso, you can dl it from mplayer's site
[02:39] <pommer> 
[02:39] <Qeyz> arso, mplayerhq.de
[02:39] <arso> Qeyz:  wouldnt it be available on synaptic?
[02:40] <Qeyz> arso, not for the win32 codec
[02:40] <arso> Qeyz:  i see, ok, checking mplayerhq.de
[02:40] <erUSUL> !cn
[02:40] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:41] <sancho1980> hi
[02:41] <sancho1980> im having problems writing a makefile
[02:41] <pringat> I'm trying to install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk; how can I know in which repos they are?
[02:41] <PriceChild> !info ia32-libs
[02:41] <ubotu> Package ia32-libs does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:42] <Qeyz> !ffmpeg
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <pringat> ubotu ah...+
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ah...+ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <arso> Qeyz:  shit, it turned out to be a problem with mplayer, i tried a normal AVI, i still get the same error
[02:42] <sancho1980> i have posted my problem under http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=570932 its the very last post...can someone help me?
[02:42] <Qeyz> !info ffmpeg
[02:42] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 176 kB, installed size 620 kB
[02:42] <arso> Qeyz:  error starting/initializing the selected video out (-vo) device
[02:43] <Qeyz> arso, you must set the video output in preference pane first
[02:43] <Qeyz> arso, right click on mplayer window, then click the video tab
[02:43] <Qeyz> arso, select x11 for the output
[02:43] <Enselic> My cd drive has suddenly stopped working, can anyone figure ut why?
[02:43] <arso> Qeyz:  ok
[02:44] <arso> Qeyz:  it works now :) even h.264, ty a lot
[02:44] <sancho1980> its probably not a difficult question, can someone please have a look at it: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=570932 (last post)
[02:44] <Qeyz> arso, you're vewry welcome arso
[02:45] <stefg> Enselic: the only one with access to your box is, ...errm..., you! . So anyone == Enselic :-) we can only help, if you provide info
[02:45] <Tama00> i have enabled samba shares on my ubuntu desktop, my other linux pc can access the shares through samba fine but when you try to access it with a windows computer it asks for a password!!
[02:46] <Tama00> how can i get it not to ask for a password
[02:46] <banangroda> Hi. I'm having some problems with WINE. When Alt-tabbing out of a fullscreen game, the resolution I played the game in is used on the desktop! Very annoying. This is not the case in Windows. How do I fix this?
[02:47] <SoulPropagation> So my Qemu VM (Windows XP) can't talk to the host or the internet, I'm using TAP, is there anything I can do? I set a static IP and it sees the connection, but it only gets a ping back from itself (1.2.2.2) not the host (1.2.2.1)
[02:47] <stefg> banangroda: #winehq
[02:47] <arso> exaile is great,
[02:48] <arso> i thought it would be inferior to amarok, but i find it better.
[02:48] <sancho1980> can no one help me? i cannot post the makefile in here so i have to use this link to the post: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=570932
[02:49] <Qeyz> arso: I still love amarok though :p
[02:49] <banangroda> stefg, what irc network?
[02:50] <arso> Qeyz:  i was having some problems with it, it was a bit laggy, donno why
[02:50] <arso> Qeyz:  hey whats frame dropping ?
[02:50] <Tama00> arso, when the frame drops?
[02:50] <Qeyz> arso, just ignore it, it usually come from some shitty vidz :p
[02:50] <arso> ahh ok
[02:50] <arso> it was an option in mplayer
[02:50] <stefg> banangroda: freenode. just type /j #winehq in your client
[02:50] <arso> enable frame dropping
[02:50] <arso> and extreme frame dropping
[02:51] <arso> umm how do i make the video stretch to the full screen while in fullscreen?
[02:51] <arso> it remains in its own resolution
[02:51] <Qeyz> arso, change the video out to xv
[02:52] <arso> Qeyz:  ok thnx, whats the difference between all these video out?
[02:52] <CTho> is it really intentional that "e asdf &" kills your shell?
[02:52] <CTho> (assuming you forgot to alias e to emacs)
[02:52] <_rd_> synaptic has lost its index for debs, how can this be reindexed?
[02:52] <Qeyz> arso, I dunno, I'm just exploring it a bit
[02:52] <royel> Tama00: I believe you need to use a login on windows that has the same credentials as the samba login
[02:53] <Qeyz> :D
[02:53] <Newbie_Dude> Is VMWare gonna kill my computer, if I think it sucks how good is Ubuntu at removing programs?
[02:53] <Chousuke> Hmmh
[02:53] <secretdoor> hi!
[02:53] <Tama00> royel, the login on my other ubuntu pc is a diffierent name than the username on this ubuntu pc and that works..
[02:53] <Tama00> its strange really..
[02:53] <Chousuke> Newbie_Dude: VMWare is outside ubuntu's control, since it doesn't come as a .deb
[02:53] <arso> Qeyz:  i see, is a list of shortcuts for mplayer available on the main site? for increaising volume etc
[02:53] <Chousuke> Newbie_Dude: You have to trust the vmware uninstaller script
[02:53] <Newbie_Dude> Chousuke: scary, well the damage is done, already installed >_<
[02:54] <Chousuke> Newbie_Dude: IME it works though
[02:54] <royel> Tama00: yeah, but the samba login is the one that counts
[02:54] <Qeyz> arso, try to read the man pages
[02:54] <arso> Qeyz:  ok.
[02:54] <_rd_> Newbie_Dude,   /usr/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl will do the trick
[02:54] <arso> !man
[02:54] <Qeyz> arso: type: "man mplayer" (with no quote) on the terminal
[02:54] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:55] <newbie77> gyach-e broke my gnome-app-install??
[02:55] <Tama00> royel, meh i think ive fixed it by writing guest ok = yes in the samba config under my shares
[02:55] <Tama00> thanks anyways royel :)
[02:55] <royel> Tama00: yw, good luck
[02:55] <Tama00> :)
[02:55] <kazukisan-lap> I am trying to play a avi
[02:55] <kazukisan-lap> mt
[02:56] <Newbie_Dude> _rd_: thanks, i dont have a reason to uninstall it yet, but just incase I'll do that :)
[02:56] <stefg> http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html#research
[02:56] <kazukisan-lap> I am trying to play a avi file but the video will show up for a sec but then will go black when i click on the program and only play the sound, i tried vlc and movie player, any suggestions
[02:56] <gruelius> can thunderbird import mail/address books from Outlook Exchange?
[02:57] <SoulPropagation> So my Qemu VM (Windows XP) can't talk to the host or the internet, I'm using TAP, is there anything I can do? I set a static IP and it sees the connection, but it only gets a ping back from itself (1.2.2.2) not the host (1.2.2.1). Can somebody please help me?
[02:57] <Qeyz> kazukisan-lap: try mplayer or xine
[02:57] <stefg> gruelius: you have to convert it with the windows version of thunderbird, then import the windows profile into the linux version, iirc
[02:57] <Tama00> royel, screw windows if it wont access my files it can miss out
[02:57] <Tama00> stupid windows..
[02:57] <arso> Qeyz:  did u make ur own shortcutS? or do u use the defaults?
[02:57] <Qeyz> kazukisan-lap: and try downloading the codec
[02:57] <gruelius> stefg: ty
[02:57] <anandanbu> How do i install vmware in Ubuntu
[02:58] <SoulPropagation> buy, download, run installer anandanbu
[02:58] <Qeyz> arso: for what?
[02:58] <arso> Qeyz:  mplayer
[02:58] <Qeyz> arso, mplayer?
[02:58] <stefg> !vmware
[02:58] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:58] <dissection> I have a question. When I opened a folder in my NTFS partition, it said could not display all contents. Why is that?
[02:58] <Qeyz> arso, I'm using the default
[02:58] <anandanbu> But i heard there is an open source version of it
[02:58] <arso> Qeyz:  where r they listed :( i checked the man , didnt understand anthing
[02:59] <arso> Qeyz:  i just know space is pause :P
[02:59] <ari_stress> dissection: strange
[02:59] <arso> Qeyz:  i just need to know volume up/down and fullscreen
[02:59] <Qeyz> arso: f = fullscreen , 9 for decrease vol, 0 for increase
[02:59] <arso> thanks :)
[02:59] <arso> a lot.
[02:59] <arso>  this movie is amazing
[03:00] <Qeyz> arso, tou're welcome, again :D
[03:00] <arso> great quality, the codecs seem (Y)
[03:00] <kazukisan-lap> qeyz: i downloaded the codecs with movie player, unless im missing something
[03:00] <Qeyz> kazukisan-lap: try installing all the gstreamer plugins
[03:00] <royel> Tama00: lol
[03:00] <arso> Qeyz:  dont u get bored dealing with us noobs?
[03:01] <dissection> ari_stress: Looks like remounting it fixed it. It showed 9GB in the folder earlier, and now shows 12GB. Strange indeed.
[03:01] <Qeyz> arso: nope, glad to see linux work for you
[03:01] <royel> Tama00: I use samba all the time, it is a little bit tricky, but well worth the time to set it up proper.
[03:01] <Qeyz> :)
[03:01] <arso> :) great.
[03:01] <arso> btw, do u know how i can find the current fps ?
[03:02] <arso> of the video playing.
[03:02] <Tama00> royel, it shouldnt be tricky:(
[03:02] <_rd_> Newbie_Dude, be sure to chk /etc/vmware after unistall to be sure all the files are removed
[03:02] <royel> Tama00: it wouldnt be linux! ;)
[03:02] <Tama00> royel, then they shouldnt call it ubuntu linux for human beings lol
[03:03] <royel> Tama00: good point, but have you tried many other distro's?
[03:03] <Qeyz> arso, oopps, sorry, I now nothing about that
[03:03] <arso> Qeyz: i just got an error,too many video packets in the buffer. and the video stopped.
[03:03] <Tama00> royel, sure have
[03:03] <Qeyz> arso: try to disable the extreme frame droppping
[03:04] <arso> its disabled.
[03:04] <royel> Tama00: then you know, this one does a pretty good job of simplifying things for dumb human beings :)
[03:04] <arso> anyway its fine now.
[03:04] <Tama00> royel, its not good enough if i can get samba working to share stuff on windows
[03:04] <arso> i'll be back later guys. time to enjoy some movies. thanks for all the help.
[03:04] <Tama00> so its got a while to go yet
[03:04] <arso> oh shit.
[03:05] <arso> i need to do that do
[03:05] <arso> file sharing network with a windows laptop
[03:05] <younghacker> is postgres capable of accepting xml data?
[03:05] <arso> Qeyz:  can u help me with that?
[03:05] <royel> Tama00: you can't get access to the shares from windows?
[03:06] <Tama00> yup
[03:06] <Tama00> but linux works
[03:06] <Qeyz> arso, sharing file from linux or from windows?
[03:06] <royel> Tama00: I thought you just wanted to be rid of the pesky uname pword prompt
[03:06] <fatbrain> Hello, can I detect if the GPU in my computer is sitting in an AGP slot or a PCIe slot?
[03:06] <Tama00> royel, well yeah, it doesnt work cause it wants a user/password
[03:06] <arso> Qeyz:  umm from windows, i want to access the shared documents on the windows laptop
[03:06] <Tama00> but linux doesnt ask for the user/password
[03:06] <Qeyz> arso, my suggestion would be: google, since it might take some long step*
[03:07] <arso> fatbrain:  open the case and take a look?
[03:07] <halotracer> guys i am nu to ubuntu could tell me how to login in as root
[03:07] <arso> Qeyz:  darn :(
[03:07] <royel> Tama00: an you dont know what username password to use?
[03:07] <Tama00> arso, lol i probably got the same problem
[03:07] <Qeyz> arso, and I'm just got to logoff right now
[03:07] <fatbrain> halotracer: I dont want to void their warranty
[03:07] <arso> Tama00:  but i didnt try anything yet.
[03:07] <Qeyz> arso, sorry dude
[03:07] <Tama00> royel, no i dont want a username/password at all
[03:07] <arso> Qeyz:  its fine, thnx for all the help. ttyl
[03:07] <Tama00> like the other linux box doesnt ask
[03:07] <Tama00> and it works fine
[03:07] <Arso> Tama00:  was it complicated setting it up?
[03:07] <halotracer> thanx but
[03:08] <Arso> lol harry potter releases today.
[03:08] <Tama00> Arso, i just clicked a few things and my ubuntu shares on my pc work on my other ubuntu computer but fail on my windows computer
[03:08] <Qeyz> arso, if you just want to browse windows share, go to Location >> Network
[03:08] <Tama00> Arso, i give up haha
[03:08] <Arso> Tama00:  shit, i wont even try then :P
[03:08] <Arso> Qeyz:  ok, i'll try
[03:08] <PriceChild> Arso, please watch the language :)
[03:09] <Arso> PriceChild:  ok. :)
[03:09] <Arso> Qeyz:  location ?
[03:09] <Qeyz> arso, or just type smb:// on the file manager
[03:09] <fatbrain> erm, arso, not halotracer.
[03:09] <Tama00> Arso, lol
[03:09] <fatbrain> heh
[03:09] <SecrethX> is there any way that you can recreate your /etc/fstab automatically?
[03:09] <Arso> Qeyz:  ok.
[03:09] <Kevin4381> some items in my applicatiosn menu do not have icons (just the blank window/default icon) ... how can I configure icons for items in the main menu?
[03:09] <Otacon22> how can i flush up dns ttl cache?
[03:09] <Arso> Qeyz:  what does that do?
[03:09] <halotracer> ya got it fatbrain
[03:10] <Arso> Qeyz:  coz its just  empty right now, but the laptop is switched off right now
[03:10] <Qeyz> arso: it will browse you entire network for windows share i guess
[03:11] <Qeyz> Arso, upppsss, you gotta switched it on dude
[03:11] <Arso> Qeyz:  and i dont have to be on the same workgroup and stuff ?
[03:11] <Arso> Qeyz:  how ?
[03:11] <Qeyz> Arso, and it shoul be in the same network
[03:11] <Arso> Qeyz:  oh, switch on the laptop
[03:12] <Arso> Qeyz:  same network? do i have to set anything up? or just connect them to the router
[03:12] <Qeyz> gtg guys, see ya, nice to be here
[03:12] <Arso> Qeyz:  bye.
[03:12] <Qeyz> arso, just connect it to the same router i guess
[03:12] <Arso> ok great.
[03:12] <Qeyz> Arso, bye
[03:12] <Arso> bye, ty
[03:12] <bluefox83> is there a terminal command to see hwo much ram a system has?
[03:12] <bluefox83> *how
[03:12] <Qeyz> Arso, have a nice linux box :p
[03:13] <Arso> finally! :D
[03:13] <Arso> i am dual booting
[03:13] <gruelius> how do i get thunderbird 2?
[03:14] <gruelius> i can only get no 1
[03:14] <SecrethX> is there any way that you can recreate your /etc/fstab automatically?
[03:14] <Arso> can anyone help me with networking? accessing shared files of a windows laptop
[03:14] <gruelius> Arso: Gladly, whats your question
[03:14] <Arso> smb:/// doesnt show anything
[03:14] <Arso> gruelius:  hey.
[03:15] <Arso> gruelius:  um, i have a windows laptop, i want to access its shared documents from my ubuntu
[03:15] <m11> arso , try : smb://192.168.1.10 , assuming that is your lappy IP
[03:15] <Arso> k
[03:15] <gruelius> ive allways had it work straight up in KDE and Gnome with the ui
[03:16] <bluefox83> how can i get Places->Network to show all systems on my network that are running nfs? >.>
[03:16] <rolfen> anyone here took any sort of linux certification?
[03:16] <rolfen> i'm thinking of one
[03:16] <bluefox83> i doubt it, why?
[03:16] <rolfen> i'm thinking of taking one... for the job
[03:16] <Arso> m11:  it worked, thanks a lot.
[03:17] <bluefox83> cool
[03:17] <bluefox83> i was unaware there were any linux certifications
[03:17] <rolfen> i wonder if i'm able too though :/
[03:17] <rolfen> yeah i'm sure there are... from novell and from redhat... and probably others too
[03:18] <Arso> it feels great to have everything finally up and working :D
[03:18] <HEP85> bluefox83: nfs is not browseable
[03:18] <pringat> ubotu ia32-libs
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ia32-libs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <PriceChild> rolfen, -offtopic please :)
[03:18] <PriceChild> PriceChild, apt-cache search
[03:18] <bluefox83> HEP85, why the heck not? there's an option in the networking thingy to make it announce itself on the network...
[03:19] <rolfen> okay PriceChild
[03:19] <SoulPropagation> So my Qemu VM (Windows XP) can't talk to the host or the internet, I'm using TAP, is there anything I can do? I set a static IP and it sees the connection, but it only gets a ping back from itself (1.2.2.2) not the host (1.2.2.1). Can somebody please help me?
[03:19] <m11> // not ///
[03:19] <HEP85> bluefox83: well, then it is kind of a workaround. the protocol itself isn't browseable
[03:19] <bluefox83> HEP85, bummer
[03:20] <bit0> anyone use OpenOffice.org Base?
[03:21] <SecrethX> is there any way that you can recreate your /etc/fstab automatically?
[03:21] <bluefox83> SecrethX, probably not..but you might try to google it...
[03:22] <SecrethX> k, thx anyway
[03:22] <vinay> i used "services-admin" to shut down a few services... suddenly now when I try to run services-admin, it says  "The configuration could not be loaded." .. i get the same if i run from command line as root.... what could be the crucial "service" i shut down ? :-S
[03:23] <arso> !smb
[03:23] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:23] <SecrethX> bluefox83, you know how to make a fat partition mounted at start? (trough fstab)
[03:23] <arso> oh samba is preinstalled on ubuntu?
[03:24] <sp3000> hell, o world.
[03:24] <arso> hgello.,
[03:24] <bluefox83> SecrethX, i believe you create a line something akin to /dev/hdx /mnt/point -t vfat
[03:24] <SecrethX> k ty
[03:24] <CTho> sp3000 determined that the apache2.2 package messes with bash
[03:24] <stefg> !mount
[03:24] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:24] <stefg> !mountwindows
[03:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[03:24] <CTho> it causes the shell to exit when a command fails
[03:24] <bluefox83> SecrethX, don't quote me though...
[03:24] <SecrethX> bluefox83, ill play with it
[03:24] <HEP85> !worksforme
[03:24] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:25] <bluefox83> SecrethX, you might want to check the ubuntu forums too
[03:25] <stefg> !fstab
[03:25] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:25] <SecrethX> will do, thx
[03:25] <pringat> I wnat to install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk and I do not know where to find them. any idea?
[03:25] <bluefox83> the ubuntu forums are a great source as well as this channel
[03:26] <vinay> nobody knows?
[03:26] <bluefox83> nope, sorry
[03:27] <sp3000> CTho|away: but only if it's background, and only sometimes o_O
[03:28] <vlt> Hello. I've installed Ubuntu Feisty on my Notebook with an "ATI ... Radeon Mobility M6 LY" (lspci). To speed up 3D a little I installed "xorg-driver-fglrx" and put "fglrx"  in the "Driver" line of xorg.conf. But X doesn't start (I assume the card isn't supported). After changing the "Driver"  line back to "ati" X starts fine but now `glxears` is hardly moving. Any idea why?
[03:28] <sp3000> and set -o has pipefail and errexit off, though having them on results in the same effect for bg cmds not found, but has side-effects beyond that
[03:28] <stefg> !ati | vlt
[03:28] <ubotu> vlt: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:29] <kel39> hey guys, i have a question related to CLI :) Euhm, once ive been trying out a GNU/Hurd LiveCD as i remember, and there in command line by default was enabled an option, that in the command line, when i typed a command and typed it wrong, there was given a suggestion for a similar command. And once, when i installed DSL on one old pc, and joined to irc with a cli irc client that was by default in ids, there was a function that gave me a suggesti
[03:29] <kel39> on of a complete command when i've typed a part of a command. How could i enable this in Ubuntu. thx :P
[03:29] <stefg> vlt: you're probably using the mesa software emulated 3D accelaeration
[03:29] <anandanbu> I have problem in installing vmware in ubuntu 7.04 as it says a previous installation was not successful and i am suppose to purge those files how do i do it
[03:30] <bluefox83> kel39, i dunno, but if you find out..please let me know >.>
[03:30] <stefg> anandanbu: sudo rm -rf /etc/vmware
[03:30] <SoulPropagation> So my Qemu VM (Windows XP) can't talk to the host or the internet, I'm using TAP, is there anything I can do? I set a static IP and it sees the connection, but it only gets a ping back from itself (1.2.2.2) not the host (1.2.2.1). Can somebody please help me?
[03:30] <anandanbu> stefg: thanks
[03:30] <Meyvn> i have a dual-boot system, and after a crash last night, GRUB is no longer responding to the arrow down key (arrow up strangely works)
[03:31] <kel39> bluefox83: hehe
[03:31] <Meyvn> !GRUB > me
[03:31] <jmchaffie> anyone willing to answer a most likely simple ahoutcast question?
[03:31] <jmchaffie> *shoutcast
[03:31] <AndreSilva> anyone here run ubuntu on toshiba satellite a75?
[03:31] <royel> kel39: are you talking about tab completion?
[03:31] <stefg> !anyone
[03:31] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:32] <SoulPropagation> !compatibility | andresilva
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compatibility - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <bluefox83> wow..the washer came on and my window started a wave on the screen at the same time..that was a little trippy >.>
[03:32] <AndreSilva> !compatibility toshiba satellite a75
[03:32] <kel39> royel: i guess its kinda what i mean
[03:32] <AndreSilva> !compatibility toshiba satellite
[03:32] <kel39> royel: yes
[03:32] <AndreSilva> !compatibility toshiba
[03:32] <jmchaffie> I tried several times and noone answered is why. - question slearly stated to follow :)
[03:32] <IxBrad[AFK] > www.ubuntu.justgotowned.com
[03:32] <stefg> !msgthebot | AndreSilva
[03:32] <ubotu> AndreSilva: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:33] <royel> kel39: it should be enabled in ubuntu, just press "tab" to make use of it
[03:34] <jmchaffie> I've tried both icecaast and shoutcast + idjc. works great local network. I've done everything I can find as far as making sure porst 8000-8001 are open on the router, but no go for outsiders. any ideas?
[03:34] <eBoxNet> hello ppl
[03:34] <jmchaffie> Wondering if anyone has had same experience and it's something simple I probably have overlooked.
[03:35] <royel> jmchaffie: my best guess would be that you need to enable port forwarding on your router, possibly even dmz
[03:35] <kel39> royel: and bluefox83: oke it's working with tab comletion, but... for example my situation with Gnu/Hurd LiveCD cli, giving a suggestion for another command near a wrong typed one, i dont c it working in ubuntu heh, thats why i ask.
[03:36] <SoulPropagation> Can anyone here help me with my qemu networking problem?
[03:36] <jmchaffie> port forwarding is enabled, however I'm unsure of dmz. I will have to check that, had not heard of that until now.
[03:36] <royel> jmchaffie: only use it if your absolutely sure you understand it
[03:36] <jmchaffie> I will have to research it before I do it. I've not heard of it until you mentioned it just now.
[03:37] <bluefox83> neither have i, but it sounds very handy
[03:37] <kel39> indeed
[03:37] <jmchaffie> It's just odd that everything seems to work great, and I get "touches" from the shoutcast server (yp server) but nobody can get to me)
[03:38] <Meyvn>  i have a dual-boot system, and after a crash last night, GRUB is no longer responding to the arrow down key (arrow up strangely works), i looked at /boot/menu.lst but couldn't find anything out of the ordinary
[03:38] <Meyvn>  here's the menu.lst pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30688/
[03:38] <duelboot> what is the proper syntax for /etc/fstab to mount a second disk (ext3) to allow read write for all users?
[03:38] <bulmer> jmchaffie, do you have a firewall rule that prevents those ports from being hit?
[03:38] <fdr> hi! how do I open an mdf file under ubuntu? It is an image created by Alcohol... thank you!
[03:38] <vlt> stefg: Yes, probably using MESA, but why? It did fine before I changed xorg.conf to "fglrx" and then _back_ to "ati". Any idea how to re-activate te old settings where glxgears moved smoothly?
[03:39] <erUSUL> duelboot: no possible, just mount it normally and make dirs inside the partition that you can chown or chmod
[03:39] <stefg> Meyvn: seems more like the mbr portion of grub got damaged. Try to install a fresh copy to MBR
[03:39] <jmchaffie> Hmmm... I don't think I even have my software firewall running right now, I checked services, but I will double check. And I do have port forwarding working on the router for 8000-8001.
[03:39] <bluefox83> duelboot, mine is:/dev/hdb1       /d2             ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro      0       1
[03:39] <SoulPropagation> So nobody can help me with qemu tap networking? Nobody? At all?
[03:39] <Meyvn> stefg: thanks will try that
[03:39] <royel> Meyvn: perhaps your key is not working at all, tested it to be sure it works?
[03:39] <trippndarift> Hey there! I was wondering about some synaptic script I installed for Nautilus. I can't seem to find the exact package but it is the package that adds the "Rotate Image" option to the right click. Does anyone know much about this? What I need to know is what script it is and if it has a homepage and on top of that if the rotation of images with this Nautilus option has any negative effects on the quality of the image?
[03:40] <bluefox83> SoulPropagation, no, this really isn't a channel for advanced users...
[03:40] <pawan> how to manully connect to broadband
[03:40] <stefg> vlt: i don't touch ati with a 10ft. pole, because i know how hard their drivers suck on linux. SO no idea from my side , sry
[03:40] <enry> enibody know how to stop forever a program upgrade????
[03:40] <enry> anybody
[03:40] <Meyvn> royel: heh, it doesn't seem to work in emacs either
[03:40] <kyncani> fdr: apt-cache search mdf
[03:40] <royel> Meyvn: unplug the keyboard maybe?
[03:40] <bulmer> enry disconnect your internet connectivity :)
[03:40] <royel> Meyvn: or use a hammer? :)
[03:41] <vlt> stefg: Ok, thank you.
[03:41] <fdr> kyncani : thanks!
[03:41] <Meyvn> ill' try that :)
[03:41] <kyncani> fdr: np :)
[03:41] <bluefox83> i think they mean set it so it wont upgrade while it still elts others upgrade
[03:41] <pawan> how to create shortcut to pppoe connection on desktop
[03:41] <SoulPropagation> bluefox83: it's not THAT advanced, just trying to do seamless virtualization, windows-on-ubuntu
[03:41] <enry> bulmet it's a drastic decision
[03:41] <enry> bulmer it's a drastic decision
[03:41] <bulmer> enry yes indeed
[03:41] <royel> Meyvn: might be able to use the number pad direction keys, be sure the numlock is OFF an they should act as the direction keys
[03:41] <Enselic__> I think I have messed up my system, can anyone locate modules.d? I think I'm missing that one
[03:42] <jmchaffie> I'm using Ubuntu feisty, and I double checked package manager, and I don't even see a firewall installed! woof...
[03:42] <enry> bulmet i jut want that the upgrade daemon stopped to booring me
[03:42] <stefg> !firewall
[03:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:42] <Enselic__> jmchaffie: you have iptables
[03:42] <jmchaffie> oh yes of course
[03:42] <duelboot> thx erUSUL (that's how I was doing it...was hoping for an automated way...oh well)..bluefox83 still doesn't work exactly like I'd like
[03:42] <bluefox83> SoulPropagation, most people in here are trying to get partitions mounted, or sound or video working correctly...not a lot of people doing virtualization with proprietary software
[03:42] <jmchaffie> I'm unfamiliar with all of the command though I must admit
[03:43] <bluefox83> duelboot, that's how i have mine set in fstab, it automounts during bootup
[03:43] <kyncani> Enselic__: apt-file search modules.d
[03:43] <Meyvn> royel: ill shut down an replug keyboard, first if it works I'll let you know :)
[03:43] <ari_stress> hello guys, how do i know the version of gnome i'm using? i'm on feisty
[03:43] <duelboot> bluefox83, didn't want it to just automount...wanted it to give full permissions to the user mounting it
[03:43] <bulmer> enry, if you right click on that icon on the top right regarding update and modify setting for updates..unclick it..works
[03:44] <bluefox83> duelboot, mine does that as well
[03:44] <SoulPropagation> bluefox83: So? It's a Ubuntu support channel. I'm using Ubuntu, and I need support. Where else should I go? ;)
[03:44] <duelboot> bluefox83, is it your secondary drive?
[03:44] <stefg> ari_stress: did you ever bother t look at your menus before typing to your irc client? :-)
[03:44] <bluefox83> SoulPropagation, mmm...my guess would be the support channel for the software you are using...
[03:44] <bulmer> jmchaffie, type iptables -vL  to see if any rules are set
[03:44] <SoulPropagation> bluefox83: Worth a shot, it was tumbleweeds before though
[03:44] <ari_stress> stefg: which menu?
[03:45] <ari_stress> stefg: oh about gnome
[03:45] <ari_stress> sorry :D
[03:45] <stefg> omg
[03:45] <bluefox83> SoulPropagation, yeah that happens sometimes...
[03:45] <SoulPropagation> bluefox83: Yeah, I know.
[03:45] <arcade> SoulPropagation: hmm.
[03:45] <morgan> hello!
[03:45] <arcade> SoulPropagation: Do you have a dhcp server on that network?
[03:45] <SoulPropagation> arcade: yes, my router.
[03:45] <duelboot> sorry bluefox83 I accidentally quit...is that your second drive?
[03:45] <arcade> SoulPropagation: Well, is that on the TAP-network?
[03:46] <arcade> SoulPropagation: I mean, you use TUN/TAP, or whatever, and that talks to your ubuntu-box ..
[03:46] <ari_stress> !pessulus
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pessulus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <bluefox83> duelboot, yeah, hence the mount point is /d2
[03:46] <SoulPropagation> the only things on the TAP network are Ubuntu and the Qemu box.
[03:46] <duelboot> bluefox83, excuse me :)
[03:46] <arcade> SoulPropagation: .. and no dhcp-server? :P
[03:46] <CTho|away> sp3000: the sometimes part is fun
[03:46] <Dag_> Hello, can anyone give me some assistance here? :P
[03:47] <SoulPropagation> arcade: Static IP's on Ubuntu and Qemu
[03:47] <jmchaffie> well, there are three entries, INPUT, OUTPUT, FORWARD, with "policy ACCEPT 0 packets, o bytes) and no information below the headers on all of those.
[03:47] <rolfen> Dag_ whats your problem
[03:47] <bluefox83> brb i'ma restart X in the hopes the latest compiz upgrade will solve this wicked cpu eating compiz is doing
[03:47] <stefg> !anyone | Dag_
[03:47] <ubotu> Dag_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:47] <Dag_> rolfen: where you from?
[03:47] <sp3000> CTho|away: it's so much fun it's really nothing to do with apache2.2-common's badh_completion.d or anything, either :D
[03:48] <rolfen> Dag_ lol, thats your problem? i'm from somewhere in the middle east...
[03:48] <SoulPropagation> arcade: as a general rule I'll use static IPs whenever I can.
[03:48] <arcade> SoulPropagation: I'm not sure how VM's and so forth works, but I would expect your machine to talk to itself through some virtual interface shared between the machines, and the one of the hosts doing the routing, and providing dhcp to the other machines.  I may, however, be completely wrong in how it works.
[03:48] <Dag_> I'm going to buy a Canon EOS 400D and I wonder how will that go as I have Ubuntu, like connecting the camera to my PC, will it find it? And is Ubuntu great for photographers? I'm used to Windows and Mac, but I hate them both.
[03:48] <arcade> SoulPropagation: Or static IP's, as long as the 'host OS' provides the routing.
[03:48] <SoulPropagation> arcade: I followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo :p
[03:49] <amexa> hello
[03:49] <arcade> SoulPropagation: I know how it works with SOlaris and zones, and there you have virtual interfaces that is inherited by the guest-solarises.  No clue in your environment though.
[03:49] <jmchaffie> well, there are three entries, INPUT, OUTPUT, FORWARD, with "policy ACCEPT 0 packets, o bytes) and no information below the headers on all of those.
[03:49] <stefg> !hardware | Dag_
[03:49] <ubotu> Dag_: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:49] <stefg> !gimp
[03:49] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[03:49] <Dag_> What does !hardware | Dag_ mean?
[03:49] <jmchaffie> bulmer: (sorry, forgot name intro) well, there are three entries, INPUT, OUTPUT, FORWARD, with "policy ACCEPT 0 packets, o bytes) and no information below the headers on all of those.
[03:49] <rolfen> Dag_ well you wont be easily able to run photoshop on ubuntu. there's a way but it involves wine and a couple of hacks, and is not easy
[03:49] <Dag_> I don't want Adobe Photoshop :)
[03:49] <royel> Dag_: it's a command to the irc bot, ubotu
[03:49] <stefg> Dag_: there's a list of all hardware founf to be ubuntu-compatible
[03:49] <bulmer> jmchaffie, okay well that tells you, no rules so it is open
[03:50] <rolfen> ok good then :)
[03:50] <Dag_> I want a better program or as good as program as Adobe Photoshop but just a program that is made for Linux.
[03:50] <Dag_> Same with Album Gallery.
[03:50] <DBLue> The Gimp
[03:50] <Dag_> digiKam & The Gimp?
[03:50] <sp3000> 1) ingredients: one shell
[03:50] <Dag_> Good choice?
[03:50] <Dag_> That is what I've got right now.
[03:50] <arcade> SoulPropagation: heh.  Look at the 'cons' for the TAP network
[03:50] <amexa> since i have installed beyl, some button have gone in the main panel such as network icon and gdesklets icon(gdesklets is running, though the icon doesn't load in the login). does anyone know how to help me??
[03:50] <jmchaffie> bulmer: ok that's good. Well, I'm stumped then. I've worked on it for hours. a couple of days now actually. I guess I'll keep poking at it. Research the dmz thing.
[03:50] <stefg> !beryl | amexa
[03:50] <ubotu> amexa: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:51] <sp3000> 2) steps: iusfbdfvb &
[03:51] <sp3000> 3) repeat until shell decides to exit
[03:51] <SoulPropagation> arcade: *blank stare*(
[03:51] <bulmer> jmchaffie, what kind of dsl modem/router you have in front of your ubuntu?
[03:51] <sp3000> I can't reproduce that on my debian box
[03:51] <arcade> SoulPropagation: Did you follow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179472 ?
[03:51] <Dag_> Hey guys, this just sux :(
[03:51] <Dag_> Ubuntu has no Support for Canon EOS cameras at all!
[03:51] <Dag_> Not even 350
[03:52] <arcade> Dag_: huh?
[03:52] <Dag_> Just those poor Digital Cameras.
[03:52] <arcade> Dag_: I'm using one with ubuntu
[03:52] <rolfen> Dag_ the choice depends on you... personally i prefer photoshop over GIMP
[03:52] <Dag_> arcade: what?
[03:52] <Dag_> arcade: are you using a canon eos camera on ubuntu?
[03:52] <Dag_> i did not see it on the list you guys gave me!
[03:52] <arcade> Dag_: An Canon EOS 400D or something.
[03:52] <SoulPropagation> arcade: Oh geez, I'm a total idiot. I didn't even finsh the damn thing
[03:52] <arcade> SoulPropagation: oupsie. :)
[03:52] <Dag_> i'm going to buy a Canon EOS 400D, I need it to work with Ubuntu
[03:52] <arcade> SoulPropagation: There you go then.
[03:52] <Dag_> Does it? :D
[03:52] <arcade> Dag_: Very well.
[03:53] <Meyvn> royel: it's working again, solution: 1) hold keyboard upside down 2) shake it :D
[03:53] <jmchaffie> bulmer: It's a Buffalo AirStation
[03:53] <SoulPropagation> arcade: Really. I've been trying to get help for like 4 hours now,
[03:53] <arcade> Dag_: Haven't had a single problem with it
[03:53] <bluefox83> Dag_, should mount like a filesystem...
[03:53] <arcade> Dag_: plugged it in, and it worked.
[03:53] <Dag_> arcade: awsome. how does it work with digiKam?
[03:53] <sp3000> but on feisty when I do that a few (one to a dozen) times, the shell decides to exit normally at some random iteration
[03:53] <royel> Meyvn: lol, good job!
[03:53] <arcade> Dag_: perfectly well.
[03:53] <Dag_> arcade: great! :D
[03:53] <jmchaffie> bulmer: Also, one protocol I'm not familiar with is UPnP - it is enabled, can this cause any grief?
[03:53] <arcade> Dag_: Not a single hickup.  It _Just Works_(TM) :-)
[03:53] <royel> Meyvn: a Hammer would have been more fun imo :)
[03:53] <Dag_> I'm really happy I went over to Ubuntu, really.
[03:53] <bulmer> jmchaffie, i dont know about that protocol either
[03:54] <Dag_> It's so much better then anything I've had.
[03:54] <Meyvn> royel: often the problem is simpler then I think :P i was thinking something was wrong with GRUB, when it in fact was fine. thanks a lot )
[03:54] <stefg> Mevyn: a variation on the '3 inch method'... lift device 3 inches, drop it
[03:54] <DBLue> Why i can't unmount any partition, i get error in Ubuntu Gnome Desktop
[03:54] <bluefox83> jmchaffie, i believe UPnP is plug and play O.o
[03:54] <royel> Meyvn: anytime :)
[03:54] <Meyvn> royel: and yes a hammer would have been more fun ^^
[03:54] <royel> Meyvn: it's not too late!!! :)
[03:55] <Meyvn> been using this keyboard for like 3 years, but i clean it once in a while
[03:55] <jmchaffie> bulmer: I figured it was... just wasn't sure if it would cause issues. I have everything setup static though.
[03:55] <Meyvn> it likes my crumbs
[03:55] <DBLue> Are there any Linux Keyboards?
[03:55] <Dag_> good question dblue!
[03:55] <rolfen> DBLue what whould that be?
[03:56] <royel> Meyvn: I been using the same keyboard for close to 10 years, I have bought dozens of replacements an never liked the feel of any new ones, I will die when this one gives out.
[03:56] <Dag_> keyboard without "windows" buttons
[03:56] <Dag_> hahaha
[03:56] <Meyvn> royel: lol
[03:56] <rolfen> ah ok :)
[03:56] <rolfen> with a little pinguin instead...
[03:56] <Dag_> yes!
[03:56] <Dag_> perfect
[03:56] <DBLue> That is Cool
[03:56] <Meyvn> royel: yeah, i <3 my keyboard
[03:56] <DBLue> Maybe with Tux on it
[03:56] <Dag_> ill start production right away
[03:56] <Dag_> u guys buy?
[03:56] <Dag_> :D
[03:56] <Dag_> make me rich
[03:56] <razorx> annyone played doom3 on ubuntu ?
[03:57] <Dag_> not me
[03:57] <m11> dblue, i use black marker ;)
[03:57] <rolfen> well... if it's not too expensive...
[03:57] <stefg> http://www.linuxfocus.org/common/images2/article373/tuxgraphicssolution.jpg
[03:57] <Dag_> hm, it will be cheap!
[03:57] <Dag_> lol
[03:57] <bulmer> jmchaffie, does your AP allocates or reserves those ip range as static ?
[03:58] <kenro_> Anyone know the appropriate #irc for direct connect?
[03:58] <Gasten> Hey! How do you exit X?
[03:58] <akos> gasten alt+ctrl+f1
[03:58] <rolfen> Gasten you want to go back to the TTY?
[03:59] <akos> Gasten, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:59] <rolfen> yeah that's it like akos said
[03:59] <Gasten> akos: Sure, I know. But I want to be able to boot it again with another WM.
[03:59] <Enselic> Dag_: you might wanna try the development version of GIMP   the stable version is more than two years old
[03:59] <Gasten> akos: thanks!
[03:59] <jmchaffie> bulmer: Well, I setup my machine as a static address, then setup the ip range in the router... I'll check but not sure there is a specific 'static' setting for range... then I have port forwarding for MY ip.
[03:59] <leonheart> hi
[03:59] <riaal> Hi Im having a real problem, I want to share folders from different harddrives in one folder.. check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=506090
[03:59] <DBLue> I found a keyboard on google!
[04:00] <DBLue> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,39164303,00.htm
[04:00] <DBLue> It looks cool
[04:00] <kenro_> Maybe no one uses direct connect anymore?
[04:00] <Enselic> When I run    sudo lshw | grep -i cd    I get no interesting hits, and my CD doesn't work in Ubuntu Gutsy I can boot from it however, so it is not a hardware problem, and it even worked earlier today! How should I proceed to get my cd working again?
[04:00] <Enselic> cd reader*
[04:00] <Dag_> Enselic: how do i get it?
[04:01] <bulmer> jmchaffie, yeah check those..and i have not used the port forwarding on those kind of routers, i normally put my linux (as router with iptables) in the dmz
[04:01] <stefg> !gutsy | Enselic
[04:01] <ubotu> Enselic: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[04:01] <pringat> I wnat to install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk and I do not know in which repository I can find them. any idea?
[04:01] <Enselic> stefg: I know, but this isn't Gutsy specfic :(
[04:01] <Enselic> stefg: that is, the procedure to get it working should be the same, right?
[04:02] <Enselic> Dag_: I strongly recomend you to build it from source
[04:02] <kenro_> !ubotu dc++
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dc++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <Dag_> Enselic: what do you mean? i'm new you see.
[04:02] <Enselic> Dag_: I can help you build it if you have some time to spare
[04:02] <kenro_> !ubotu unstable
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unstable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <Dag_> Enselic: i've got 1 hour, is that good?
[04:02] <kenro_> Bah. stupid bot.
[04:02] <Enselic> Dag_: do you have a fast system?
[04:02] <stefg> Enselic the gutsy kernel might have changed. try to boot feisty, and only come back, if its still an issue with that
[04:02] <Dag_> Enselic: very fast.
[04:02] <jmchaffie> bulmer: ok cool, thanks tons. Gives me much more to go on for now. At least I now have a new angle to go on instead of beating my head against the wall on the same stuff! :)
[04:03] <Enselic> Dag_: are you used to using the terminal?
[04:03] <Dag_> Enselic: a little
[04:03] <Enselic> Dag_: ok, let's give it a try
[04:03] <Enselic> Dag_: fire up a terminal
[04:03] <Dag_> Enselic: possible for private chat? it's hard to follow everything here so many ppl talking
[04:03] <Enselic> Dag_: sure
[04:04] <Enselic> Dag_: you need to register with nickserv though
[04:04] <sam542> how big should i make my /var in comparison to my /usr? im thinking that my /var should be 60% as big as my /usr atm
[04:04] <Kjellviz> are there any problems/risks with installing kubuntu in a tri-boot where ive already got vista and ubuntu installed ?
[04:05] <Dag_> Enselic: ill register now one moment
[04:05] <Enselic> Dag_: ok
[04:05] <sam542> kjellviz there is if you resize your nfts partition
[04:05] <effraie> o/
[04:05] <Kjellviz> sam542: meaning it can render the remaining data on the ntfs part corrupt ?
[04:05] <effraie> does somebody knows a tool to adjust monitor's RGB ?
[04:06] <BadRobot> Hi there .I've installed the Ubuntu Feisty. It hangs after the message "Loading boot/initrd.....". It looks like its about to load a new screen, but the screen stays black and it just hangs there.The laptop is an ASUS A6000KM.So,could anyone give some help?
[04:06] <royel> Kjellviz: as long as you have an idea of what your doing it will be fine, if your asking this question though, I gotta suspect you may not be quite the pro.
[04:06] <kenro_> Anyone know the appropriate #irc for direct connect?
[04:06] <kenro_> grrrrrrr
[04:06] <sam542> Kjellviz yes but the risk is lower if you have a fully defragmented nfts partition
[04:06] <kenro_> Anyone know the appropriate #irc for direct connect?
[04:06] <Kjellviz> sam542: ok
[04:07] <Kjellviz> royel: im a windows tech, but a newcomer to linux
[04:07] <stefg> sam542: look at it in absolute terms. /usr will never be bigger than approx. 3-4 GB, there's simply not more stuff in ubuntu (not talking of  /usr/src). your /var space depends on what you're going to do withe the box (mysql databases? )
[04:07] <royel> Kjellviz: just be sure not to use any existing partitions then, I have several distros scattered across a few different drives myself
[04:08] <Kjellviz> royel: ive only got 1 drive though, its a laptop
[04:08] <royel> Kjellviz: well, is there free space available already?
[04:08] <Kjellviz> royel: tons
[04:08] <royel> Kjellviz: why install kubuntu?
[04:08] <Kjellviz> royel: hehe
[04:08] <kenro_> Anyone here use DirectConnect?
[04:08] <zepolen> royel: why not
[04:08] <royel> Kjellviz: you can add kde to your existing ubuntu
[04:09] <Kjellviz> royel: i like KDE gui, but i had kubuntu installed before i installed ubuntu, and i could not get wine etc working as in ubuntu
[04:09] <zepolen> ubuntus support for multiple managers is terrible
[04:09] <Enselic> Dag_: you register by      /msg NickServ REGISTER  <password>
[04:09] <Kjellviz> royel: so id want a fully working os (like my ubuntu is now), and a option to boot kubuntu when i feel like tinkering and making it work ><
[04:09] <nkbreau> is there a way to quickly map a drive between two ubuntu laptops to transfer some files on the same network,. kind of like a shared folder in windows ? whats the quickest/easiest way ?
[04:09] <Dag_> Enselic: one moment
[04:09] <zepolen> nkbreau: ftp :/
[04:10] <royel> Kjellviz: I see, you should be able to do: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:10] <bluefox83> Kjellviz, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:10] <zepolen> Kjellviz: dont do that
[04:10] <nkbreau> so i have to setup an ftp server zepolen ?
[04:10] <Kjellviz> i did that on my desktop a while back
[04:10] <zepolen> it will fuck up your install
[04:10] <Kjellviz> royel: it messed up my install
[04:10] <Johnson> argh, this nick is taken blabla
[04:10] <Kjellviz> xactly
[04:10] <Kjellviz> ><
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Kjellviz: DO what royal says, I do it here.. I can select wm at the login
[04:10] <zepolen> yes nk
[04:10] <zepolen> Kjellviz: DONT
[04:11] <JohnsonsWhatever> Enselic: it's been done.
[04:11] <JohnsonsWhatever> Enselic: what now? :)
[04:11] <nkbreau> I'm guessing thats something i'll have to install ?
[04:11] <Kjellviz> Jack_Sparrow: ive tried it and it messed up
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Kjellviz: How is it messed up
[04:11] <zepolen> ubuntu's manager meta package are shit
[04:11] <Kjellviz> Jack_Sparrow: not at all anymore since i reinstalled ;)
[04:11] <sunken> Hi, I would like to virtualize three windows 2003 servers (configured and having applications that req. windows 2003) on a ubuntu server host. How do I do it?
[04:11] <zepolen> all sorts of problems
[04:11] <Enselic> JohnsonsWhatever: are you Don_?
[04:11] <BadRobot>  Hi there .I've installed the Ubuntu Feisty. It hangs after the message "Loading boot/initrd.....". It looks like its about to load a new screen, but the screen stays black and it just hangs there.The laptop is an ASUS A6000KM.So,could anyone give some help?
[04:11] <royel> Kjellviz: just do the kubuntu install, it can be done with no problem, I didn't know there was an issue with adding the desktop
[04:11] <Kjellviz> Jack_Sparrow: but i could no longer mount my ntfs partitions
[04:11] <Kjellviz> for instance
[04:12] <stefg> sunken: By hiring a pro
[04:12] <kenro_> !test
[04:12] <kenro_> !echo: I a so bored.
[04:12] <ubotu> failed
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Kjellviz: How about some specifics from what you remember
[04:12] <kenro_> Can somebody respond in some way so I can tell I'm properly connected to this channel?
[04:12] <Enselic> JohnsonsWhatever: Dag_ I mean
[04:12] <Kjellviz> Jack_Sparrow: ill give you some later, now my GF is wating
[04:12] <Kjellviz> waiting
[04:12] <royel> Kjellviz: you need to be a bit more cautious that you dont format any used partitions though
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:12] <Enselic> JohnsonsWhatever: are you swedish?
[04:12] <vranac> kenro_ WE SEE YOU
[04:12] <Kjellviz> have fun heeh
[04:13] <zepolen> yes what ever you do dont type 'sudo rm -rf /'
[04:13] <royel> zepolen: why do you feel the need to even post it?
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> zepolen: Not funny even to tell them NOT to do that
[04:13] <AceMan> moron
[04:13] <JohnsonsWhatever> Enselic: norwegian!
[04:13] <ctothej> how is the upure64 repository for additional amd64 compiled apps? trustworthy? will it interfere with normal updates?
[04:13] <zepolen> because of trolls
[04:13] <zepolen> better to teach people
[04:13] <JohnsonsWhatever> Enselic: yes it's Dag here :)
[04:13] <sunken> stefg: well, I use open source too be efficient and on a low budget. I don not need expences for a 'pro' to do it. Someone have done it before, just need information about how to.
[04:13] <zepolen> than security through obscurity
[04:13] <royel> zepolen: your the only troll I see atm
[04:14] <stefg> !virtualizers | sunken
[04:14] <ubotu> sunken: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[04:14] <zepolen> why because i told him that kubuntu-desktop will fuck up his pc?
[04:14] <zepolen> its true :/
[04:14] <vranac> !WINE
[04:14] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> zepolen: Wrong on both counts
[04:14] <astro76> !language | zepolen
[04:14] <ubotu> zepolen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:14] <sunken> stefg: k, i google that, thank you
[04:14] <AceMan> zepolen are you here to help or just troll?
[04:14] <zepolen> im here to watch
[04:15] <stefg> sunken: so install ubuntu-server, some lightweight gui on top (fluxbox) and vmware server
[04:15] <shriphani> folks, i am in need of a few ECs for my college app. is there anything that i can contribute to for ubuntu or some other open source projects ?
[04:15] <sunken> stefg: k, vmware is recomended then?
[04:15] <zepolen> ive already helped someone, who did YOU help AceMan
[04:15] <stefg> sunken: my personal feeling it's the most mature
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> shriphani: What languages do you program in?
[04:15] <royel> zepolen: and how many did you hurt by typing that above command
[04:15] <AceMan> didn't you see already? oh well.
[04:15] <cparker> I'm getting a message saying the packages I'm upgrading can't be authenticated. These packages are supposedly coming directly from Ubuntu servers.
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> shriphani: I have a quick easy one in mind
[04:16] <sunken> stefg: yeah, tried it before on a windows server, kinda like it
[04:16] <shriphani> Jack_Sparrow: python
[04:16] <shriphani> i am not a pro at it tho.
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> shriphani: Are you reg'd and do you mind pm' me
[04:16] <shriphani> Jack_Sparrow: i am rgd.
[04:16] <zepolen> royel: none - i taught them 1, no 2 valuable lessons: 1) never just type what somone writes in irc 2) rm -rf / is a nono
[04:16] <cparker> Are there updated GPG signatures that I need to install in order for these packages to be authenticated?
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> shriphani: Lets talk for a minute
[04:17] <royel> !ops
[04:17] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[04:17] <shriphani> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[04:17] <sunken> stefg: by virtualizing I'll have more HW and can use then to evaluate the nice services that ubuntu server can supply our company with. Thank you
[04:17] <zepolen> you can tell a kid that he will burn his hand on an iron - but if he doesnt try it, he wont believe you :/
[04:17] <jkthecjer_> hmmm, anyone have any idea why my nice orinoco card with ext antenna causes much slower connection than my POS built-in ndiswrappered broadcom wifi (same access point)?
[04:18] <memoo> hi
[04:18] <royel> elkbuntu: ty
[04:18] <sunken> stefg: after eval. we will purchase support and pro's to tweak performence and stuff
[04:18] <memoo> hi royel
[04:18] <sunken> stefg: bye
[04:19] <C-{pR0F> Can anyone Help with this : Qt: Locales not supported on X server ( i donwloaded the KDE , and it still shows)
[04:20] <BadRobot> anyone there able to give a quick help?
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ask
[04:21] <atul> have some problems with ubuntu 7.04
[04:21] <pringat> Hello, I'm trying to install a package which is supposed to be in the main section (zcat Packages.gz | grep ia32-libs) but apt-cache search ia32-libs says that it is not there... any idea? thx
[04:21] <atul> anyone to help
[04:21] <mind-shift> Does anyone use DC_gui here? I need to load a hublist and I don't know how
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> BadRobot: Have you enabled universe and multiverse repos
[04:21] <C-{pR0F> Jack_Sparrow: Can u Help with this : 'Qt: Locales not supported on X server' ( i donwloaded the KDE , and it still shows)
[04:22] <doronbe> hi, Im trying to compile something and I get aclocal: not found
[04:22] <doronbe> whats wrong ?
[04:22] <BadRobot> i can't even boot the lappy
[04:22] <BadRobot> Jack_Sparrow
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> BadRobot: It isnt in the repos anyhow
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry wrong person..
[04:22] <atul> my keyboard is not working well at all... i was using ubuntu 6.06 and it was working fine... now i have to press a key several times before it is accepted
[04:22] <xtknight> doronbe, sudo apt-get install automake
[04:23] <vlt> Hello. I want to watch a dvd with xine. When starting I got "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable". So I installed a certain library to enable it. Now I get "libdvdread: Using libdvdc*s version 1.2.9 for DVD access ... libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB (0x00013fa6)!!". Any idea what's missing here?
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> BadRobot: How far do you get with booting the cd?
[04:23] <BadRobot> .I've installed Ubuntu Feisty. It hangs after the message "Loading boot/initrd.....". It looks like its about to load a new screen, but the screen stays black and it just hangs there.The laptop is an ASUS A6000KM
[04:23] <xtknight> vlt, you have libdvdcss?
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> pringat: Where does it say that is in the repos?
[04:23] <BadRobot> I can boot the liveCd without ACPI
[04:23] <vlt> xtknight: Yes.
[04:23] <BadRobot> i need to disable it ACPI=OFF
[04:23] <adrianoc> please, i am to connect in a base samba pdc/ldap, and mounting the sharings of the samba automatically with PAM_MOUNT, but i with this error in the AUTH.LOG: su[8869] : pam_mount(pam_mount.c:453) error trying to retrieve authtok from auth code
[04:23] <atul> my keyboard is not working well at all... i was using ubuntu 6.06 and it was working fine... now i have to press a key several times before it is accepted
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> BadRobot: You can add that during the bootup even now
[04:24] <xtknight> vlt, it looks like a region problem, maybe
[04:24] <BadRobot> so,it install the distro,then when i reboot it,It looks like its about to load a new screen, but the screen stays black and it just hangs there
[04:24] <shriphani> erm Jack_Sparrow i am still waiting.
[04:24] <BadRobot> how?
[04:24] <xtknight> vlt, (you know how DVDs have different regions)  that could be one reasons
[04:25] <pringat> Jack_Sparrow: I've downloaded the Packages.gz file from  /ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-amd64. The package description is in it. Am I wrong?
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> shriphani: I posed a msg and didnt see you
[04:25] <shriphani> hmm i posted one back.
[04:25] <xtknight> vlt, but it's probably a libdvdcss problem and i dont know how to fix that
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> shriphani: I see nothing here..
[04:25] <shriphani> hmm
[04:25] <shriphani> well lets try again.
[04:26] <C-{pR0F> how can i know what's the version I'm using .. 6.06 , 6.10 , 7.04 ???
[04:26] <binks> what does this mean ie what should i typr
[04:26] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, lsb_release -a
[04:26] <binks>  1.) ./configure --prefix=KDEDIR --mandir=MANPAGE_DIR (e.g. for SuSE: --prefix=/opt/kde3 --mandir=/usr/share/man)
[04:26] <binks>      (use ./configure --help for more options)
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> BadRobot: when you power up there is a msg that will let you into grub if only single booting
[04:27] <pringat> Jack_Sparrow, is there any way to know in which repos can be found a given package?
[04:27] <C-{pR0F> binks: thankx
[04:27] <aa^way> hello ,  i took my computer to another place and bam hm my resolution got reset to 640 x 428? instead of 1278 x 768 , how i could fix it? it was really simple but i cant remember it guys
[04:27] <shriphani> hmm is there any specific way to start a pvt message in irssi ?
[04:27] <binks> C-{pR0F:
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> pringat: I am busy so just ask and wait for someone else
[04:27] <binks> C-{pR0F: you lost me
[04:27] <pringat> Jack_Sparrow, ok...
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> shriphani:  join #Voyager  we can use that room
[04:28] <shriphani> ok
[04:28] <xtknight> binks, compiling a kde program?
[04:28] <C-{pR0F> binks: maybe u can help with this "QT : Locales not supported on X server" ???
[04:28] <xtknight> binks, are you sure there's no package for it already?
[04:29] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/SuSE/2004-06/3792.html
[04:29] <binks> i want kaffeine 0.8.4 only 0.8.3 in repos
[04:29] <vlt> xtknight: hmmm ... I can watch the menu and some not encrypted trailers. So I think it's no region problem. Is there a newer version of libdvdcss2 than I used?
[04:29] <doronbe> xtknight, thanks !
[04:30] <Spee_Der> Anyone here using Xephem please ?
[04:30] <razor90> hello
[04:30] <xtknight> vlt, no idea.  which one did you use..?
[04:30] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, so if you use English maybe it should be "export LANG="english""
[04:31] <Puppy_> If I download and install a plug-in in synaptic. How do I get firefox to reconize it
[04:31] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: I'm checking it ......
[04:31] <Puppy_> ??
[04:31] <binks> C-{pR0F: i used export LANG=en_GB
[04:31] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, some info here too http://wiki.sourcemage.org/HOWTO-Locale_problems
[04:32] <xtknight> binks, ok.  "./configure=/opt/kde" should be enough
[04:32] <xtknight> binks, sorry, mistake.  one sec
[04:32] <C-{pR0F> binks: I can't find this dir .profile  ...
[04:32] <xtknight> binks, try this:  "./configure --prefix=/opt/kde"
[04:32] <C-{pR0F> it's not in the home directory
[04:32] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, it is hidden
[04:32] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, View->Show hidden files
[04:32] <C-{pR0F> i used ctl-h
[04:33] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, anything that starts with . is a hidden folder, used for configuration usually
[04:33] <Puppy_> If I download and install a plug-in in synaptic. How do I get firefox to recognize it?
[04:33] <xtknight> Puppy_, it automatically does, usually
[04:33] <root__> ck
[04:34] <xtknight> Puppy_,  type "about:plugins" in firefox see if it's listed
[04:34] <root__> quit
[04:34] <atul> sound does not work on restarting after hibernation
[04:34] <Puppy_> ok
[04:34] <binks> xtknight: no still same error
[04:34] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: I'm not using Suse , and i showed the hidden folders , it doesn't exist , that .profile
[04:35] <mind-shift> DOES ANYONE USE DC_gui ??!
[04:35] <xtknight> binks, are you using kde or gnome?
[04:35] <Pretor1ab> hello all
[04:35] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, then try the suggestions at http://wiki.sourcemage.org/HOWTO-Locale_problems  at the  bottom
[04:35] <binks> sorry gnome
[04:35] <Spee_Der> Hello Pretor
[04:35] <binks> xtknight: gnome sorry
[04:36] <Puppy_> xtknight: thanks!
[04:36] <Pretor1ab> anyone using twonkymedia
[04:36] <atul> sound does not work on restarting after hibernation
[04:36] <atul> any help
[04:36] <xtknight> binks, exact same error?
[04:36] <BadRobot> ype,yep
[04:37] <binks> xtknight: yes but im on gnome not kde so is it still /opt/gnome
[04:37] <Wanne> how can i I'd like to now if I have a sound driver installed and running or not. how can I find out this?
[04:38] <xtknight> binks, hmm.  try this instead: "./configure --prefix=/usr/local"
[04:38] <xtknight> binks, this might do it, too: "./configure --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/share/man"
[04:39] <knoppix> hello
[04:39] <xtknight> !hi | knoppix
[04:39] <ubotu> knoppix: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:39] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: I found an article said that upgrading to fiesty solves the problem , now i'm using dapper , and i want to upgrade to edgy->fiesty , but sometimes i here that causes problmes , and that there will b troubles is that right?
[04:39] <C-{pR0F> *hear
[04:40] <grub-problem> how do i reinstall the grub bootloader after installing windows on another partition?
[04:40] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, yeah, especially if you have extra repositories enabled, but even the official ones have problematic packages sometimes
[04:40] <grub-problem> !grub
[04:40] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:40] <grub-problem> ah :D
[04:40] <xtknight> :P
[04:40] <mind-shift> !dc
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <mind-shift> !direct-connect
[04:40] <binks> xtknight: no luck with then either
[04:40] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: and these problems .... can they b solved ? and how do i remove the extra repos???
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> C-{pR0F: Make a quick full backup before you start
[04:40] <Yarcanox> anyone heard wanne's question? sadly my ubuntu knowledge is too bad to answer this, but I guess someone else here knows the answer
[04:40] <xtknight> binks, what does it report?
[04:40] <mind-shift> !direct-connect
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about direct-connect - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, type "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"  and pastebin it please
[04:41] <binks> xtknight: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:41] <xtknight> !pastebin  | C-{pR0F
[04:41] <ubotu> C-{pR0F: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:41] <xtknight> binks, ok well that's not the same error!
[04:41] <xtknight> binks, ;)
[04:41] <xtknight> binks, sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev
[04:41] <binks> oh sorry
[04:41] <Yarcanox> (talking about [16:38:02]  <Wanne> how can i I'd like to now if I have a sound driver installed and running or not. how can I find out this?)
[04:41] <xtknight> binks, during a ./configure you will have maybe 10 different errors but we need to know each one.  what command line did you end up using?  all the mandir stuff, etc?
[04:42] <OldPink> !hi | OldPink
[04:42] <binks> xtknight: ok i will lokk harder sorry
[04:42] <cabrioleur> Wanne, open a terminal and type alsamixer
[04:42] <OldPink> Hm.
[04:42] <xtknight> binks, nah that's ok, just paste the errors here but they will always be different
[04:43] <royel> OldPink: lol, hi
[04:43] <OldPink> Hi Royel. :) Using Opera as an IRC client, wanted to get a feel for it, asked Ubotu to say hi. :P
[04:43] <Wanne> cabrioleur, Card: SAA7134, Item: Line 1, Line 1 (100/100), Line 2(100/100)
[04:43] <royel> OldPink: yeah, I seen that, I dont think he likes you ;)
[04:44] <OldPink> royel: He said it in private lol :P
[04:44] <C-{pR0F> xtknight; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30696/
[04:44] <royel> OldPink: sure he did :)
[04:44] <OldPink> !hi > royel
[04:44] <cabrioleur> Wanne, looks good, you got some card. Just play with mixer and it's going to work. (I hope)
[04:44] <OldPink> :P
[04:44] <sancho1980> hi
[04:45] <binks> xtknight: am i alwright to install kde with apt-get install kde-desktop
[04:45] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, if you want to upgrade you should remove everything after ###Skype##############
[04:45] <sancho1980> does anyone know how i can assign the output of a command to a variable in a makefile?
[04:45] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, including "Give'res repository" remove it all
[04:45] <sancho1980> suppose i want X to equal the size of file "foo"
[04:46] <C-{pR0F> and after that , how do i upgrade ? xtknight
[04:46] <xtknight> !upgrade | C-{pR0F
[04:46] <ubotu> C-{pR0F: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:46] <sancho1980> in the shell i would just write "X=$(sh echo | stat -c %s foo)"
[04:46] <sancho1980> but this doesnt work in a makefile
[04:46] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, oh, type "sudo apt-get update" after removing those lines/saving that file
[04:47] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, that wont upgrade you but it will remove those lines for good.  after that follow upgrade instructions
[04:47] <xtknight> binks, kubuntu-desktop i think
[04:47] <xtknight> binks, but you dont need to, do you?
[04:47] <xtknight> binks, if you use gnome, all you need to run Kaffeine is the KDE libraries.  you do not need KDE
[04:48] <xtknight> binks, kaffeine can run under GNOME
[04:48] <binks> im getting qt errors now
[04:48] <xtknight> binks, you probably need libqt3-mt-dev
[04:49] <binks> xtknight: your memery is fab
[04:49] <xtknight> binks, when you get errors during configure, you usually need -dev packages, not the normal ones.  for example, you need KDE development tools, not KDE window manager
[04:49] <binks> ^memory
[04:49] <xtknight> hehe
[04:49] <Puppy_> is there an open source shock wave program?
[04:51] <binks> xtknight: checking for KDE... configure: error:
[04:51] <binks> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[04:51] <binks> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:52] <xtknight> hmm
[04:52] <binks> xtknight:  ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/share/man
[04:52] <xtknight> binks, yeah it's telling you to change the wrong thing.  hold on
[04:52] <xtknight> binks, try "sudo apt-get install kdelibs-dev"
[04:53] <xtknight> binks, these are all available in synaptic but sometimes you have no idea which to choose so for now i'd figure i'd save you the headache.  usually the simplest looking one is the best, like "kdelibs-dev" not kde3.4-x343-libs-dev or whatever else there may be in there.
[04:54] <dyn-86> HELP!...i'm in big trouble....for some strange reason, after i enter my password, the x server just blanks the screen for a couple of secs, then it appears again, i'm not getting a login failed message
[04:54] <xtknight> dyn-86, errors may be stored in ~/.xsession-errors
[04:55] <Wanne> cabrioleur, i tested in der terminal "alsamixer -c0" to "alsamixer -c3" and number 2 i know from my "windows-times". when i typed "alsamixer -d2" it says: ALSA lib control.c:910:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL 2 \n \n alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for 2: No such file or directory
[04:55] <Puppy_> Does anyone know a open source shock wave program?
[04:55] <dyn-86> how do I fix them....? xtknight?
[04:55] <riaal> Im I the first one in the world that wants to share more then one folder in my system and still only have to mount ones at the remote machine????
[04:55] <dyn-86> i can't log on my desktop the way I usually do
[04:55] <xtknight> dyn-86, have you tried to install compiz, beryl, aiglx, xgl, or anything similar lately?
[04:55] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: I get this when i want to upgrade "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/main/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[04:55] <dyn-86> no
[04:56] <dyn-86> i just rebooted on windows, and when i tried 2 log on again it won't let me:((
[04:56] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, hmm.  a bit odd, but go in "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and remove the one that says "deb-src" and has dapper-security in it
[04:56] <binks> xtknight: what the difference between a norm package and a -dev package
[04:56] <xtknight> !sourceomatic
[04:56] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:57] <xtknight> binks, a normal package like kaffeine is the Kaffeine media player.  a -dev package would contain everything you need to build something with Kaffeine.  the dev package is the development which contains headers and libraries that other applications need to compile against.
[04:57] <dyn-86> soooooo........
[04:57] <pragma_> ooo
[04:57] <pragma_> !ubuntu
[04:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[04:58] <riaal> Im I the first one in the world that wants to share more then one folder in my system and still only have to mount ones at the remote machine???? Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=506090
[04:58] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, here is a clean dapper sources.list.  use this instead.  http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[04:58] <binks> xtknight: ok so when i write code and use include these are the dev packages
[04:58] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, sorry,  i mean use this as "/etc/apt/sources.list": http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30698/
[04:58] <cabrioleur> Wanne, what card do you have, what kernel.
[04:58] <binks> xtknight: cdparanoia error wtf never heard of it
[04:58] <xtknight> binks, yea
[04:59] <xtknight> binks, oh you need another lib for that, sec
[04:59] <xtknight> binks, libcdparanoia0-dev
[04:59] <xtknight> !info libcdparanoia0-dev
[04:59] <ubotu> libcdparanoia0-dev: audio extraction tool for sampling CDs (development). In component main, is optional. Version 3.10+debian~pre0-4build1 (feisty), package size 49 kB, installed size 160 kB
[04:59] <binks> xtknight: how do you search apt for stuff like that
[05:00] <xtknight> binks, use tab completion after sudo apt-get install
[05:00] <xtknight> sudo apt-get install lib<press tab>
[05:00] <Wanne> cabrioleur: card is onboard: HDA Intel, C-Media CM19880. kernel:2.6.20
[05:00] <xtknight> take a guess at the name, you'll probably be right
[05:00] <binks> xtknight: arr thankx
[05:00] <astro76> C-{pR0F, error looks like this? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-July/119258.html
[05:00] <astro76> C-{pR0F, happened to me once yesterday with feisty
[05:00] <whatwherewhen> hi there people
[05:00] <stefg> !intelhda
[05:00] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[05:00] <binks> xtknight: configure complete thanks
[05:00] <irunwithscissors> hey guys, if /nick and /quit are sitting in a boat and /nick falls out, who is left?
[05:00] <xtknight> binks, congrats
[05:01] <whatwherewhen> can anyone tel me if they have a working asterisk instalation on ubuntu
[05:01] <xtknight> binks, now you probably have to type "make" or sometihng, read the instructions for it
[05:01] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: replace my , with the one u uploaded ???
[05:01] <xtknight> binks, if it says "make install", remember that for ubuntu you need to do "sudo make install".  but not "sudo make"  just "make" is fine for that step
[05:02] <binks> just make atm then sudo make install
[05:02] <xtknight> binks, yea
[05:02] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, yes
[05:02] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, your OLD one is here if you need it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30696/
[05:03] <Netfeed> is it possible to "remake" the /etc/fstab in some nice gui or something so new partions and read and write permissions is set automaticly?
[05:03] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: I'll back it up
[05:03] <whatwherewhen> i download the server edition of ubuntu can anyone tell me if it has a graphical interfase for installing applications like suse uses yast?
[05:03] <eltese> Wich command is it for open my sources.list in a text file so I can edit it? Isnt it edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:03] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, good idea.  and remember, there's no guarantee that upgrading won't fail.  so i would backup important data also, or make sure you know how to recover from a broken upgrade
[05:04] <royel> riaal: use a symlink
[05:04] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: i don't know ... if u don't mind to learn me?
[05:04] <xtknight> eltese, "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:04] <stefg> whatwherewhen: not by default. a server install will only install a cli-based system, you can add a gui of your choice then
[05:04] <eltese> xtknight: thanks :)
[05:04] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, well chances are, if it does happen, someone can help you.  but what you'd do is bootup with a LiveCD and access your broken installation from there
[05:05] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, you just have to mount your broken installation and copy the files off.
[05:05] <whatwherewhen> stefg: how does one go about doing that?
[05:05] <stefg> !apt | whatwherewhen
[05:05] <ubotu> whatwherewhen: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:06] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: thankx .... I have a live cd ,,, and hope that it wont fail
[05:06] <pringat> When I do "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" I get "md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz" and "The Flash plugin is NOT installed.". Any idea about how to solve it? (Feisty)
[05:06] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, did you use the new sources.list?
[05:06] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, after that you have to type "sudo apt-get update" to refresh it
[05:06] <C-{pR0F> yes , i replaced my old with it
[05:06] <whatwherewhen> if you aptget an application is it installed automaticly?
[05:06] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, yes
[05:06] <whatwherewhen> thx guys
[05:07] <xtknight> if you do "apt-get install"
[05:07] <xtknight> or, "sudo apt-get install"
[05:07] <whatwherewhen> is sudo not used for giving u root access?
[05:07] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: will this cause any problem "
[05:07] <C-{pR0F> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[05:07] <C-{pR0F> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:08] <eBoxNet> whatwherewhen: is used to run something as root
[05:08] <C-{pR0F> C-{pR0F: i updated , but it didn't fix!
[05:08] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, umm, you still have a wine repository in there
[05:08] <whatwherewhen> like the su command?
[05:08] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, hmm.  can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list again?
[05:09] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, yea sort of
[05:09] <xtknight> !sudo  | whatwherewhen
[05:09] <ubotu> whatwherewhen: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:09] <whatwherewhen> if you use apt get does it look on the internet for the program or on your cdrom?
[05:09] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, it can do both
[05:10] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, by default a cdrom is added.  if it is not found on the cdrom, it searches a default internet address
[05:10] <royel> pringat: see this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3013930&postcount=3
[05:10] <whatwherewhen> i am looking for libncurses5-dev can't find it what do you do then?
[05:11] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, "sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev"
[05:11] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, it will search the innternet for it
[05:11] <xtknight> !info libncurses5-dev
[05:11] <ubotu> libncurses5-dev: Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5-5ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1336 kB, installed size 5972 kB
[05:11] <xtknight> and that package exists, as you can see
[05:11] <J-_> is there a howto or documentation for spamassassin for evo on the ubuntu website?
[05:11] <xtknight> !spamassassin
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spamassassin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <C-{pR0F> http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30699/
[05:12] <C-{pR0F> sorry no not that
[05:12] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, is that for me?
[05:12] <whatwherewhen> couldn't find package error!! apt get install libncurses-dev
[05:12] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30699/
[05:12] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, libncurses5-dev not libncurses-dev
[05:12] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, well, either should work
[05:12] <Cyb0rG`> !oracle
[05:12] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[05:12] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, and you might need an extra repository.  what is the exact error?
[05:12] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, alright, then i guess the "WINE" error can be ignored
[05:13] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, if you've done "sudo apt-get update", proceed with the upgrade
[05:13] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: ok, i will try the upggrade again .. thankx
[05:14] <GiZiM> *yawn*
[05:14] <xtknight> nap time?
[05:15] <GiZiM> Yeah im at work im in overtime
[05:15] <whatwherewhen> it says could'nt fin package libncurses-dev
[05:15] <GiZiM> Im so tired
[05:15] <whatwherewhen> it says could'nt find package libncurses-dev
[05:15] <PupUser5fdb72> if my nic does not appear in network gui config, how do I add it?
[05:15] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, well paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <xtknight> !pastebin
[05:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:15] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, with pastebin.^^
[05:15] <SD_> umm
[05:15] <xtknight> PupUser5fdb72, then it's missing a driver
[05:15] <whatwherewhen> is that where all your instalaltion programs are kept?
[05:16] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, that's where apt-get searches for packages
[05:16] <whatwherewhen> k let see
[05:16] <the_elite_freak> where's somewhere to get real person ubuntu help?
[05:16] <PupUser5fdb72> xtknight: I forgot how to add a module and initialize it.  and can it be done on live cd?
[05:16] <xtknight> the_elite_freak, you're right there
[05:16] <GiZiM> *yummy* thanks in 15min the Chinese place opens up
[05:17] <SD_> im running feisty, i have edited /etc/networking/interfaces to change from dynamic to static and restarted networking, and i still have my dhcp supplied ip
[05:17] <xtknight> PupUser5fdb72, yes actually..  "sudo modprobe module_name"
[05:17] <GiZiM> Chinese for breakfast w00t
[05:17] <shriphani> by the way are there any ubuntu projects that mentor or take on apprentices ?
[05:17] <royel> SD_: paste your /etc/networking/interfaces
[05:17] <royel> SD_: pastebin.com
[05:17] <PupUser5fdb72> xtknight which folder has modules so I can pick it out?
[05:18] <xtknight> !classroom | shriphani, well there's the classroom but i dont think that's what you meant
[05:18] <ubotu> shriphani, well there's the classroom but i dont think that's what you meant: The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[05:18] <xtknight> PupUser5fdb72, /lib/modules/`uname -r`/
[05:18] <the_elite_freak> having nvidia kernal/driver compatibility probs... and gettin frustrated
[05:18] <xtknight> PupUser5fdb72, what network card do you have?
[05:18] <shriphani> umm.... i didn't mean that.
[05:18] <royel> SD_: also, I think it should be /etc/network/interfaces  not /etc/networking/interfaces
[05:18] <PupUser5fdb72> xtknight nvidia
[05:18] <vinay> ndiswrapper gave me an eth1 , how do i rename that to wlan0 so NetworkManager sees it properly
[05:19] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: I'll annoy u another time , can i ignore this : "Some third party entries in your sources.list were disabled. You can re-enable them after the upgrade with the 'software-properties' tool or with synaptic."
[05:19] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, umm yeah probably.  but where did you see that?
[05:19] <xtknight> PupUser5fdb72, nvidia on-board NIC?
[05:19] <the_elite_freak> wow ktnights the one everyones after heh heh
[05:19] <xtknight> PupUser5fdb72, "sudo modprobe forcedeth" might do it
[05:19] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: i skipped it , it continue to update , it's just that i'm scared of the upgrade , cuz in the forum , all the time i c problems about upgrading
[05:19] <shriphani> xtknight: i meant like an open source project that would take on folks to help with.
[05:20] <xtknight> shriphani, i still don't quite understand although there is Google school of code.  i thought ubuntu was in that but i'm probably not the person to ask
[05:20] <the_elite_freak> brb
[05:20] <shriphani> oh..
[05:20] <shriphani> i want a few good ecs
[05:21] <shriphani> so i thought trying to contribute to ubuntu would look good.
[05:21] <xtknight> shriphani, you'd probably come across the right people in   #ubuntu-motu  (although don't ask regular ubuntu/linux console/command questions there, they dont like that)
[05:22] <jpnurmi> evolution has no rss/news support?
[05:22] <xtknight> !motu
[05:22] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[05:23] <shriphani> xtknight: they are willing to take on folks ?
[05:23] <rdesh> hi
[05:23] <PriceChild> shriphani, they'll take anyone who wants :)
[05:23] <shriphani> oh nice.
[05:23] <riaal> royel, how?? I have tried out ln -s and on the remote machine they are broken
[05:23] <rdesh> in compiling my own kernel, i ntoiced i have to reinstall the nvidia drivers. is there a way to do this without rebooting the kernel first?
[05:23] <GiZiM> I was a master once but i made out with my sister
[05:23] <cyberphaz> lol
[05:23] <xtknight> shriphani, again i'm not really sure what you mean but visit #ubuntu-motu and ask
[05:24] <PupUser5fdb72> how do I add the nic to the network settings tool or do I just ifconfig?
[05:24] <shriphani> i mean like i could code a bit and so on.
[05:24] <SD_> royel:  sorry yea /etc/network/interfaces
[05:24] <shriphani> and also learn in the process and add a few ecs to my college app.
[05:24] <GiZiM> You know when your really bored when you join a Ubuntu channel just to chat
[05:24] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> vinay
[05:24] <royel> SD_: np, paste your file, lets have a quick look
[05:24] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> vinay: edit /etc/iftab
[05:24] <xtknight> shriphani, then yeah, you can fix bugs, make new programs, upload new ones, whatever.  i have no idea about the college stuff though :P
[05:25] <Pretor1ab> hello all
[05:25] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> vinay: and change eth1 to wlan0 there, and reboot
[05:25] <Pretor1ab> how can i install libupnp please?
[05:25] <Pretor1ab> i get this error ushare: error while loading shared libraries: libupnp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:25] <royel> riaal: I'm not sure, works for me
[05:25] <SD_> royel: http://da-bom.com/interfaces
[05:25] <xtknight> C-{pR0F, well a lot of the time upgrading does work.  especially if you use that new, default sources.list
[05:25] <Pretor1ab> trying to install ushare
[05:25] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, "sudo apt-get install libupnp0"
[05:25] <Pretor1ab> thanks xtknight
[05:25] <xtknight> !info libupnp0
[05:25] <ubotu> libupnp0: Intel Universal Plug And Play SDK for Linux (shared libraries). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.1-2 (feisty), package size 83 kB, installed size 216 kB
[05:26] <vinay> \x6e\x65\x72\x64: aah, perfect!!! i knew it was something simple... much thanks :D
[05:26] <shriphani> xtknight: what you mentioned would be nice.
[05:26] <C-{pR0F> xtknight: it gonna take 8 hours , so i'm gonna crash in ,,, and thankx for helping
[05:26] <xtknight> shriphani, type /join #ubuntu-motu
[05:26] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> vinay, you're welcome :)
[05:26] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, already latest version
[05:26] <riaal> royel,  you have folders on different harddisks and then you symlinked them to on folder and then shared the folder???
[05:26] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, are you trying to run a 32bit app on a 64bit system?
[05:26] <Pretor1ab> nope xtknight
[05:26] <SD_> it seems its simply not reading my interfaces file
[05:26] <SD_> but
[05:26] <PupUser5fdb72> xtknight  sorry I should have addressed you, but do add the onboard nic to network settings tool? or check that modprobe worked?
[05:26] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, type "sudo ldconfig" first
[05:26] <the_elite_freak> back... so anyone help a guy out with his nvidia drivers?
[05:26] <SD_> that cant be right tho?
[05:26] <SD_> right?
[05:26] <royel> SD_: http://pastebin.com/m56612cff   <-- copy paste this one, or make those changes to your file
[05:26] <Yulquen> is it possible to access ubuntu desktop from xp/realvnc without having logged on physically on the linux machine?
[05:27] <CheesyMonkey> the_elite_freak: Why whats up with them?
[05:27] <xtknight> PupUser5fdb72, check that modprobe worked
[05:27] <Pretor1ab> ok xtknight no reponse to that
[05:27] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, fine, but try the program again
[05:27] <xtknight> ushare
[05:27] <royel> SD_: ooops, wait
[05:27] <Pretor1ab> same error
[05:27] <jpnurmi> what do you guys use for reading mail/news/rss feeds?
[05:27] <Pretor1ab> shall i try re-compiling it
[05:27] <the_elite_freak> sup cheesymonkey... I've tried every guide I can find and it seems the kernal and drivers aren't the same but not sure how to update the kernal or sync em ect
[05:27] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, ^^
[05:27] <royel> SD_: this one, I'm sorry .. http://pastebin.com/m29d8d7ed
[05:28] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, uhh i don't think that's the problem, but if there is an option to "statically link" it that might fix
[05:28] <the_elite_freak> kernel*
[05:28] <RobNyc-Studio> !nvidia
[05:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:28] <sdouble> jpnurmi: I used to use Thunderbird but have recently become a big fan of Kontact
[05:28] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, can you advise i do not know what you mean sorry
[05:28] <riaal> royel, ?
[05:28] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, the program is called ushare?
[05:28] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, yes
[05:28] <sdouble> I'm unaware of it's gnome counterpart
[05:28] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, upnp media server
[05:28] <SD_> ahh
[05:28] <SD_> royel: whats ath0?
[05:29] <xtknight> SD_,  atheros ethernet card, first interface
[05:29] <royel> SD_: lol, 1 sec
[05:29] <xtknight> wireless usually
[05:29] <SD_> ok
[05:29] <SD_> so not the problem
[05:29] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, you tried to add the repository and apt-get?
[05:29] <Pretor1ab> yes
[05:30] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, do you use 32bit or 64bit ubuntu?
[05:30] <Pretor1ab> 32 xtknight
[05:30] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, try downloading the "i386 arch" deb then
[05:30] <sdouble> Pretor1ab: did you do an apt-get update after adding the repository?
[05:30] <the_elite_freak> >System>Admin>Restricted Devices just gives me "Your hardware does not need any"
[05:30] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, http://www.geexbox.org/debian/pool/main/ushare/ushare_1.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[05:30] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, yes
[05:30] <royel> SD_: actually, your file should work
[05:31] <Newbie_Dude> Microsoft makes me so mad...... .... If I wanted to completely delete my VMWare install and the Virtual Machines and all Configs how would I go about doing so?
[05:31] <SD_> does feisty no longer read the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[05:31] <royel> SD_: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:31] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, << error 404
[05:31] <SD_> royel: i did that
[05:31] <SD_> twice
[05:31] <SD_> mabye
[05:31] <royel> SD_: what happens?
[05:31] <SD_> hmm
[05:31] <the_elite_freak> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia also doesn't support the beta drivers I need to my 8500GT
[05:31] <GiZiM> Glave
[05:31] <SD_> mabye it didnt kill the dhclient process
[05:31] <SD_> brb
[05:31] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, try http://www.geexbox.org/debian/pool/main/ushare/ushare_1.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[05:32] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, kool
[05:32] <sdouble> the_elite_freak: have you tried envy?
[05:32] <SD_> BLEH!
[05:32] <SD_> same
[05:32] <royel> SD_: ?
[05:32] <the_elite_freak> sdouble - envy gave me pretty much the same results... when I change xconf to nvidia instead of nv it says kernel and drivers aren't the same #
[05:32] <tomislav> Hello. I'm trying to get Geforce4 420 Go 32M working on Feisty, and no luck yet. I tried all 3 types of drivers from the repository, and nothing. modprobe refuses to load the module, and I don't get any useful output why it is so. Any hints where to look at?
[05:32] <royel> SD_:sudo ifconfig eth0
[05:33] <sdouble> the_elite_freak: ah, most unfortunate.  =/
[05:33] <the_elite_freak> lol yup most unfortunate
[05:33] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, #ushare depends on libc6 (>= 2.6) however ..... 2.5-0ubuntu14
[05:33] <the_elite_freak> I want my beryll back..lol
[05:33] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, #Package libupnp2 is not installed
[05:33] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, hmm not good
[05:33] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, i thought not
[05:33] <SD_> royel: its the same as all other times
[05:33] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, you're trying to install on feisty right?
[05:33] <SD_> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:80:5F:EA:BE:01
[05:33] <SD_>           inet addr:192.168.0.3  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[05:33] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, yes
[05:34] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, well then you may need to compile it yourself
[05:34] <Pretor1ab> i have tried that too xtknight
[05:34] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, ok maybe you're missing linupnp
[05:34] <xtknight> libupnp2
[05:34] <Newbie_Dude> Anyone know how to completely uninstall VMWare, all the Virtual Machines, and all the Config files? I want to obliterate any remnants of Windows (including emulated) from my computer forever.
[05:34] <xtknight> we got 0, but not 2
[05:34] <jetscreamer> dd?
[05:34] <Pretor1ab> do you know about libupnp2 xtknight ?
[05:35] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, it's available here, but this is for Gutsy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libs/libupnp2
[05:35] <SD_> Newbie_Dude: vmware server, workstation, player or mabye gsx?
[05:35] <Newbie_Dude> SD_: vmware-server
[05:35] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, if you compile libupnp2 then it would probably work
[05:35] <SD_> vmware-server has a great removal tool
[05:35] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, it looks like that project is very new and uses new distros, new libupnp, new everything
[05:35] <the_elite_freak> any nvidia pro's in here?
[05:35] <Pretor1ab> will it compile on feisty xtknight ?
[05:35] <SD_> it pretty much wipes itself clean
[05:35] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, very likely, yes
[05:36] <Pretor1ab> kool xtknight be back in a minute
[05:36] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, http://upnp.sourceforge.net/
[05:36] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, a few notes: make sure you compile with "./configure --prefix=/usr"
[05:36] <arso> they dont learn
[05:36] <Wips> Is there any software for Ubuntu to make a dvd-image(.iso e.g) out of a video_ts folder?
[05:36] <royel> SD_: is there an error message when you try to restart the network?
[05:36] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, prefix must be /usr
[05:36] <dcsch> join #townsquare
[05:36] <jetscreamer> !info avidemux
[05:36] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB
[05:36] <Newbie_Dude> SD_: ok i'll try to find the removal tool
[05:36] <jetscreamer> /join #mplayer
[05:37] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, you should probably compile both libupnp and ushare with prefix=/urs
[05:37] <xtknight>  /usr*
[05:37] <Pretor1ab> yes i did that xtknight
[05:37] <Pretor1ab> so xtknight i have a .deb should i just go and install that
[05:38] <SD_> royel: not relating to eth0
[05:38] <royel> SD_: but there is one?
[05:38] <SD_> i edited the standard interfaces file
[05:38] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, no the .debs didnt work
[05:38] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, right?
[05:38] <SD_> and didnt remove the bs nonexistant interfaces that were already there
[05:38] <Pretor1ab> right xtknight
[05:38] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, oh do you mean the libupnp2 deb?
[05:39] <Pretor1ab> yes xtknight
[05:39] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, no, compile libupnp2 from scratch
[05:39] <royel> SD_: do you have more than 1 nic being used?
[05:39] <SD_> nope
[05:39] <SD_> but it shouldnt stop eth0 from working
[05:39] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, where to get the src ?
[05:39] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, if you compile it from scratch it also installs dev libraries.  and it's less of a mess than using a .deb that's for a newer version of Ubuntu
[05:39] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, http://upnp.sourceforge.net/
[05:39] <royel> SD_: comment out all the other stuff then, I'll pastebin an example
[05:39] <SD_> umm
[05:39] <sofval> hello is 7.4 ubuntu good for server?
[05:39] <SD_> look
[05:39] <joshritger> hey does anyone know how to get rid of the little grippers on the edge of the panels?
[05:40] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, I cannot see the libupnp2 src there
[05:40] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, it looks like, you want this: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=7189&package_id=74113
[05:40] <SD_> if i ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 it still has my dhcp supplied ip
[05:40] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, yea im not sure, but the 2 after libupnp can mean a billion different things
[05:40] <joshritger> in gnome
[05:40] <jetscreamer> try changing allow-hotplug eth0 to auto eth0 if the link comes up but you can never get a connect off of it
[05:40] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, libupnp should be what you need
[05:40] <sdouble> sofval: by "server" do you mean web server?
[05:40] <the_elite_freak> no way for one on one help in here?
[05:40] <Pretor1ab> ok xtknight guess it wont work then for me
[05:40] <sofval> sdouble:just server who have workstation
[05:40] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, wont work for what?
[05:40] <sp3000> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/command-not-found/+bug/127399/ fwiw
[05:41] <jetscreamer> joshjosh: define grippers... the taskbar hiding things?
[05:41] <Pretor1ab> i am not sure what to do xtknight
[05:41] <jetscreamer> err joshritger rather
[05:41] <Yulquen> how do i start ubuntu desktop from shell?
[05:41] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, ok download http://downloads.sourceforge.net/upnp/libupnp-1.3.1.tar.gz?modtime=1141596517&big_mirror=0
 try changing allow-hotplug eth0 to.... <--- directed at me?
[05:41] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, and after compiling "libupnp", then you need to recompile Ushare
[05:41] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, no debs involved for now
[05:41] <pete83> Yulquen: maybe "gdm" or "startx"?
[05:42] <xtknight> "libupnp2" is a deb name, so we arent using libupnp2 we are using libupnp
[05:42] <the_elite_freak> anyone know how to get NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1 working?
[05:42] <pete83> Yulquen: actually,  "sudo gdm"
[05:42] <joshritger> jetscreamer: I have a panel on the top of my screen acting as a quick launch bar with without it expanded and on the sides there are little gripper like things
[05:42] <jetscreamer> SD_: yes if you get a connect it seems up but never works
[05:42] <Pretor1ab> ok xtknight
[05:42] <jetscreamer> joshritger: you might try right clicking it hit properties but no idea
[05:42] <sp3000> SD_: what's the problem, a.k.a. what are you trying to do?
[05:43] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, i have libupnp-1.6.0 is that any good or should i use the one you sad
[05:43] <joshritger> jetscreamer: ok, I have tried that and can't seem to find a way to get rid of them
[05:43] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, your original error was libupnp.so.3 missing.  this indicates that the version you need might be libupnp 1.3<< (the 3).  that's what you will be compiling
[05:43] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, i see
[05:43] <sp3000> SD_: have you tried talking to the network-manager gui that's afaiui default these days?
[05:43] <SD_> sp3000: simply edit eth0 on my interfaces file to be static and restart networking
[05:43] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, one sec i can double check
[05:43] <sofval> sdouble:just server who have workstation
[05:43] <sofval> hello is 7.4 ubuntu good for server?
[05:43] <SD_> sp3000: its all controlled by the gui?
[05:43] <sofval> server ubuntu and my workstation winxp
[05:44] <sp3000> SD_: you know the icon on your gnomey panel that changes if you unplug / enable wifi etc
[05:44] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, woops i gave you an outdated link
[05:44] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, compiled libupnp
[05:44] <SD_> im doing this over sh
[05:44] <SD_> sh
[05:44] <SD_> ssh
[05:44] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, the project has moved to here, and it's not called "pupnp" but it contains libupnp: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=166957&package_id=189913&release_id=515071
[05:44] <SD_> bleh!
[05:44] <dr_willis> ssh?
[05:44] <dr_willis> :)
[05:45] <SD_> stupid non repeating keys!
[05:45] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, and this is what contains libupnp.so.3, that's for sure.  so you may have to use this one instead.  dont worry just compile over
[05:45] <sp3000> SD_: *shrug* dunno the arcitecture, I suspect all controlled by gui may not quite describe it accurately
[05:45] <MickTaiwan> Hi, how can I update package dist-bzip2 to version 1.6 ?
[05:45] <the_elite_freak> what would this command do? modprobe -i | grep nvidia
[05:45] <SD_> well, if i edit /etc/networking/interfaces to have eth0 as static, restart networking, i have the same old dhcp supplied ip
[05:46] <dr_willis> the_elite_freak,  show what nvidia modules are loaded.
[05:46] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, according to RPMfind, libupnp.so.3 is actually in LibUPnP 1.6.0.  even thouh you had a deb for it, sometimes compiling will make it work better
[05:46] <dr_willis> I think. :)
[05:46] <whatwherewhen> if i want set up a putty dsession to my new ubuntu box i can ping the address but can not connect
[05:46] <whatwherewhen> any help welcom
[05:46] <the_elite_freak> lol it was suggested to help troubleshoot but it does nothing on my system..heh heh
[05:46] <dr_willis> whatwherewhen,  did you INSTALL ssh on the linuix box yet?
[05:46] <the_elite_freak> was curious what I was tryin to do..
[05:46] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, compiling with --prefix=/usr
[05:46] <bobn> whatwherewhen:  ubuntu doessn't install sshd by default
[05:46] <dr_willis> the_elite_freak,  then nothing with the nvidia name is loaded - would be my guess
[05:47] <whatwherewhen> how by apt get ssh ??????
[05:47] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, done
[05:47] <dr_willis> !ssh
[05:47] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:47] <astro76> whatwherewhen, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:47] <dr_willis> fire up the package manager, search, install
[05:47] <whatwherewhen> thx
[05:47] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, compiling ushare --prefix=/usr
[05:47] <zgj7755> how do i install packages onto a system form a live cd?
[05:47] <the_elite_freak> heh heh which sux cause it needs to be but iunno how to get the kernel and drivers the same
[05:47] <jmchaffie> Greetz, ok... I've tried everything I can find... still not sure. This is the output I get from shoutcast seI'm addedrver. I notice it says connection closed BEFORE it says I'm added... does this help any?
 [dest: 205.188.234.97]  starting stream (UID: 1)[L: 1] {A: SHOUTcast Directory Tester}(P: 0)
 [dest: 205.188.234.97]  connection closed (0 seconds) (UID: 1)[L: 0] {Bytes: 407216}(P: 0)
 [yp_add]  yp.shoutcast.com added me successfully
 [active]  0 listeners (0 unique)
[05:47] <astro76> !paste | jmchaffie
[05:47] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, sounds good
[05:47] <ubotu> jmchaffie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:48] <JohnsonsWhatever> Damn, clicked the wrong button! :P
[05:48] <zgj7755> like if i have ubuntu installed on a system and i want to put some more form a live cd on to it
[05:48] <jmchaffie> Apologies... will use pastebin.
[05:48] <royel> SD_: I'm getting the same results on my machine, on my server that works fine, strange
[05:48] <SD_> ...
[05:49] <SD_> whats the deal, do we need a windows frontend to control an ubuntu server now?
[05:49] <the_elite_freak> grrr Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!
[05:49] <SD_> :P
[05:49] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, exactly same erro
[05:49] <Pretor1ab> ushare: error while loading shared libraries: libupnp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:49] <Wips> What's the favorite free dvd/cd burning problem? looking for something to replace e.g Nero. Gotta be free
[05:49] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, alright.  type "whereis libupnp.so.3"
[05:49] <royel> SD_: lol, I can control my server fine, this ubuntu workstation on the other hand, appears to share your problem.
[05:50] <SD_> ok
[05:50] <xtknight> Wips, k3b
[05:50] <Wips> burning program* gash, not problem.. sorry
[05:50] <Pretor1ab> ushare: error while loading shared libraries: libupnp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:50] <SD_> so its a desktop version thing
[05:50] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, libupnp.so: /usr/lib/libupnp.so.2 /usr/local/lib/libupnp.so.3 /usr/local/lib/libupnp.so /usr/local/lib/libupnp.so.2
[05:50] <xtknight> Wips, my favorite problem is when i end up with a whole spindle of coasters ;)
[05:50] <royel> SD_: I can't even change it thru the gui app
[05:50] <Yulquen> I have a problem.I wish to access my linux server (in desktop, with realvnc on xp), but Im unable to do that unless I have physically logged on the linux machine (graphical log on).how can I solve this?
[05:50] <sp3000> SD_: I suppose you could uninstall network-manager in case it happens to be a bother in this case
[05:50] <Wips> xtknight: K ;) nice to know
[05:50] <xtknight> !k3b
[05:50] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[05:50] <sp3000> SD_: mind you I'm just throwing guesses around
[05:51] <bobn> Yulquen:  vino-preferences
[05:51] <SD_> so
[05:51] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, somehow libupnp.so.3 is in /usr/local
[05:51] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, can you find out what package it's from?  type "dpkg -S /usr/local/lib/libupnp.so.3"
[05:51] <SD_> feisty was shipped as a fatally flawed os?
[05:51] <sp3000> SD_: if you stop networking does it actually stop?
[05:51] <bobn> aka system -> preferences -> remote desktop
[05:51] <SD_> yes
[05:51] <SD_> then i start it again
[05:51] <jmchaffie> This is the normal output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30704/
[05:51] <GiZiM> _frozen yo
[05:52] <SD_> and i get the old ip
[05:52] <Wips> xtknight: My favorite problem is when I'm trying to burn a video_ts folder but cant find the program I need. And it seems like my dvd's are corrupt. If it's not my burner..
[05:52] <_frozen> yo
[05:52] <SD_> and i just forwarded x thru ssh
[05:52] <GiZiM> _frozen lol
[05:52] <royel> SD_: did you try a complete reboot?
[05:52] <SD_> HAHA
[05:52] <SD_> i need to reboot to chang ips?
[05:52] <oxyd> hmm..
[05:52] <royel> SD_: I know.. but
[05:52] <xtknight> SD_, no
[05:52] <_frozen> gotta go buy beer
[05:52] <SD_> network-manager is showing the ip i configured
[05:53] <royel> SD_: just curious, this thing seems hellbent on keeping the old ip on my machine as well
[05:53] <bobn> SD_ - I recal NIC drivers from years ago where you had to rmmod/insmod the nic to get a new address to take.  Haven't seen that in a long time though.
[05:53] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, dpkg: /usr/local/lib/libupnp.so.3.0.0 not found.
[05:53] <royel> SD_: same here
[05:53] <oxyd> why is ubunt using utf-8!!! its fucked up everything!
[05:53] <royel> SD_: but ifconfig shows the dhcp ip
[05:53] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, alright somehow you must have compiled without prefix=/usr, maybe it was the other libupnp but whatever, we will just add /usr/local to ldconfig
[05:53] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, it will come in handy later anyway
[05:53] <SD_> bobn: funny how we are both having the same issue tho
[05:53] <Pretor1ab> ok xtknight
[05:53] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, gksu gedit /etc/ld.so.conf
[05:53] <bobn> yes, I agree.
[05:53] <royel> SD_: gonna reboot this machine out of curiousity :)
[05:53] <SD_> ok
[05:54] <SD_> cool
[05:54] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, ok
[05:54] <xtknight> bobn, SD_ you probably have network-manager fighting with ifconfig
[05:54] <xtknight> or something like that
[05:54] <xtknight> you should set static config via network manager
[05:54] <SD_> ifconfig shouldnt be fighting with anything
[05:54] <bobn> I know it woked on my fiesty workstation with a reboot, just can; remebr if restarting networking worked.
[05:54] <xtknight> SD_, well, it does
[05:54] <AlinuxOS> hello guys, how make ndiswrapper-ed wireless card running on vmware ?
[05:54] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, add "/usr/local/lib" to the end of ld.so.conf
[05:54] <GiZiM> ifconfig gets drunk sometimes and gets into fights
[05:55] <AlinuxOS> my vmware-os can't see wireless card.
[05:55] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, cool
[05:55] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, after that, "sudo ldconfig"
[05:55] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, and after that run ushare
[05:55] <oxyd> how do i change from utf-8 to ISO 8859-1?
[05:55] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, you are the master
[05:55] <jmchaffie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30704/ <-- Does this output lend any information to connection issues with shoutcast?
[05:55] <pete83> oxyd: change what?
[05:55] <dr_willis> AlinuxOS,  you got windows running vmware, running linux?
[05:56] <AlinuxOS> no Ubuntu Feisty
[05:56] <oxyd> charset
[05:56] <royel> SD_: rebooting works
[05:56] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, im' surprised you had the patience :P
[05:56] <pete83> oxyd: yeah, in what program?
[05:56] <dr_willis> AlinuxOS,  feisty running vmware running what?
[05:56] <SD_> dam
[05:56] <SD_> i didnt want to have to reboot
[05:56] <royel> SD_: something is not right
[05:56] <royel> SD_: exactly
[05:56] <AlinuxOS> dr_willis, linux inside linux, I'm testing gusty gibbon... for translations...
[05:56] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, i love linux and have all the time in the world
[05:56] <oxyd> pete83: in konsole
[05:56] <AlinuxOS> i'm in Georgian translation team.
[05:56] <oxyd> its fucked up irrsi
[05:56] <oxyd> irssi*
[05:57] <SD_> im trying to figure out what my networking module is
[05:57] <jpnurmi> where can i download the default kubuntu desktop wallpaper?
[05:57] <xtknight> SD_, sudo lshw -class network
[05:57] <PriceChild> !ohmy | oxyd
[05:57] <ubotu> oxyd: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:57] <dr_willis> AlinuxOS,  you proberly sould set up vmware to connect over its virtual network to the  real machine, and use the forwarding features.. You MIGHT be able to add a specific hardware  to the vmware session, but never tried that.
[05:57] <Wips> Is there any way I can Debug or Troubleshoot my Dvd burning-rom? Seems like it aint working. It's acting like it's empty when it's not.
[05:58] <pete83> oxyd: try settings>>encoding
[05:58] <AlinuxOS> dr_willis, ah
[05:58] <sp3000> oxyd: haven't noticed it doing that to me, though I run that on debian, but close enough
[05:58] <SD_> xtknight: that doesnt give me the mod name tho...
[05:58] <xtknight> AlinuxOS, try having vmware use the network directly through the host
[05:58] <sp3000> oxyd: of course if the description of the issue was useful, ...
[05:58] <oxyd> pete83: dont work
[05:58] <xtknight> SD_, it should be under configuration: driver=
[05:58] <royel> xtknight: SD_ and doesnt explain whats happening with the networking in the workstation flavor of ubuntu
[05:58] <AlinuxOS> xtknight, dr_willis I use Bridged connection.
[05:59] <vinay> so i have "s2ram -f" working , how cna i make the gnome suspend button run that!
[05:59] <SD_> xtknight: ahh yes
[05:59] <sofval> server ubuntu and my workstation winxp
[05:59] <sofval> hello is 7.4 ubuntu good for server?
[05:59] <SD_> sorry
[05:59] <oxyd> damit
[05:59] <xtknight> AlinuxOS, try NAT instead
[05:59] <oxyd> bbl
[05:59] <Pretor1ab> xtknight, thanks very much
[05:59] <AlinuxOS> ah
[05:59] <xtknight> Pretor1ab, no problem
[05:59] <Pretor1ab> see you later
[05:59] <AlinuxOS> xtknight, trying that.
[05:59] <xtknight> !server | sofval
[05:59] <ubotu> sofval: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[06:00] <xtknight> sofval, 6.06 is more stable for server
[06:00] <Newbie_Dude> Anyone know a compression program for Ubuntu that can open .SIT?
[06:01] <xtknight> Newbie_Dude, http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Apps/stuffit-archives.html
[06:01] <pringat> Hi, regarding sound volume: I can set it via gui, but not via keyboard spcecific buttons althoug gnome displays the right images when I push one of them. Any idea about how to fix it? thx
[06:01] <xtknight> Newbie_Dude, maybe this http://www.freshports.org/archivers/stuffit/
[06:01] <atul>  my keyboard is not working well at all... i was using ubuntu 6.06 and it was working fine... now i have to press a key several times before it is accepted
[06:02] <atul> problem with ubuntu 7.04
[06:02] <AlinuxOS> xtknight, works ! ;)
[06:02] <Dj-avu> hi, anybody have tutorial how to setup ubuntu 6.* become router? help me pls. aand thanks to respond me.
[06:02] <AlinuxOS> xtknight, thank you!
[06:02] <xtknight> AlinuxOS, no problem.  i think vmware was trying to use ndiswrapper itself, and couldn't.  this way it goes right to your host
[06:02] <sofval> xtknight:how about 6.10?
[06:02] <sofval> xtknight:how about 6.10?is it stable?
[06:02] <AlinuxOS> xtknight, so wht NAT mode is working for me ?
[06:02] <arya_ok> oo
[06:02] <xtknight> sofval, that's not stable either
[06:02] <AlinuxOS> ah
[06:02] <xtknight> sofval, only 6.06 for server
[06:03] <xtknight> !router
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <SD____> what a ride!
[06:03] <xtknight> Dj-avu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[06:03] <SD____> that worked
[06:04] <mikubuntu> hey guys, can someone tell me where to go to find the software 'repositories'?
[06:04] <xtknight> !<router> is To set up a router, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[06:04] <SD____> i had to remove the module and add it again
[06:04] <astro76> !repository | mikubuntu
[06:04] <ubotu> mikubuntu: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:04] <SD____> royel: are you using the tland module? lsmod | grep tlan
[06:04] <SD____> tlan even
[06:04] <royel> SD____: forcedeth, I think
[06:05] <Dj-avu> xtknight, thanks, i have ubuntu server instaled and configure but client not yet connect to internet.
[06:05] <bertthegreat> hi all
[06:05] <xtknight> !<router> is <To set up an Ubuntu router, visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router>
[06:05] <creatoun__> hello.  does anyone know if there's support for an acer laptop?
[06:05] <royel> SD____: aye, forcedeth
[06:05] <SD____> well
[06:05] <SD____> thats bothersome
[06:05] <mikubuntu> thanks astro76
[06:05] <royel> SD____: yeah..
[06:05] <creatoun__> anyone?
[06:06] <creatoun__> acer laptop.
[06:06] <royel> SD____: afraid that some of the "ease of use" aspects are starting to hinder the power an control we once had with linux
[06:06] <arya_ok> yes anyone
[06:06] <arya_ok> laptop???
[06:06] <sp3000> royel: meh, just fix it ;)
[06:06] <creatoun__> arya_ok: support for an acer laptop?
[06:07] <arya_ok> no
[06:07] <rausb0> royel: unfortunately, yes
[06:07] <SD____> royel: s/linux/ubuntu/
[06:07] <xtknight> !router is <reply> To set up an Ubuntu router, visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[06:07] <arya_ok> i dont support
[06:07] <royel> SD____: I dont normally use ubuntu on the desktop, was just giving it a test drive the last couple days to see how it is
[06:07] <creatoun__> lol.  you're funny arya_ok.
[06:07] <xtknight> is ubotu broken?  it doesn't seem to want to add factoids
[06:07] <arya_ok> maybe
[06:07] <kkathman> besides ksmoothdock (kooldock)  does anyone know of a menu that would work in ubuntu feisty (not kubuntu) and be compatible with beryl ? ksmoothdock/kooldock is not.
[06:08] <arya_ok> I dond know
[06:08] <HostilePenguin> when playing a game my screen trys to gointo power saving freezing the game anyway to fix that without disabling screensaver everytime before playing a game?
[06:08] <kkathman> looking for that parabolic menu thing
[06:08] <sauvin> I'm a Fedora Core weenie currently running Ubuntu on my laptop and loving it.
[06:08] <rausb0> royel: i think gnome and kde is too overfeatured. that's why i use xfce.
[06:08] <arya_ok> I dont know
[06:08] <scorp123> sauvin: yes, Ubuntu is cool. Especially if you compare the speed of "apt" vs. "yum" .....
[06:08] <HostilePenguin> xfce is nice e17 is nice too
[06:08] <jafnoob> hi! is there a log over installed applications somewhere?
[06:09] <sp3000> jafnoob: /var/log/dpkg.log
[06:09] <tossetaz> Anyone with a quick link to a guide to installing ubuntu via network if posible?
[06:09] <jafnoob> sp3000, tyvm
[06:09] <sauvin> forget the package managers - Ubuntu makes Fedora look like it's running on a 286.
[06:09] <rausb0> jafnoob: do "dpkg -l" in a terminal
[06:09] <royel> scorp123: apt is the single reason I use ubuntu
[06:09] <jafnoob> rausb0, ok thanks
[06:09] <vadiml1024> hello i've problem installing latest uvc-vidieo driver into my kubuntu feisty... i dnlod it from svn://svn.berlios.de/linux-uvc/linux-uvc/trunk it buidls ok but modprobe fails and dmesg gives: http://paste.debian.net/33117
[06:09] <royel> scorp123: although, I dont think I am sold with ubuntu on the desktop
[06:09] <scorp123> royel: yes, the speed is awesome. Way faster than "yum" on Fedora or "smart" on SUSE
[06:09] <sp3000> jafnoob: right, dpkg -l for a list, dpkg.log for, well, the "what recent update I can't recall broke everything just now" case :)
[06:10] <HostilePenguin> ubuntu on desktop is great why dont you like it?
[06:10] <arya_ok> maybe there wrong
[06:10] <xtknight> heh yeah suse oh man it takes like 5 mins to install one pkg
[06:10] <rausb0> sp3000: hehe
[06:10] <royel> scorp123: yep, I wont use any non-deb based distro for that very reason
[06:10] <arya_ok> may
[06:10] <JohnsonsWhatever> How do I remove the red marker on my Ex-Chat? It follows me! :p
[06:10] <scorp123> royel: why that? So far I find it is one of the best distros out there ... and I use Linux since 1996 so trust me --- I have seen *many* things.
[06:10] <Anlar> Fedora's packet manager is quite fast if you fine-tune it slightly (remove extra network refreshing etc)
[06:11] <HostilePenguin> i like debian as desktop better than ubuntu but not with out more work
[06:11] <philwhln> my swap seems to be turned off by default and I have to turn it on in partition manager. how can i make sure it's on when I start my machine?
[06:11] <JC_Denton_> I always liked FC but Automatix is one of the killer apps and the GC support, even with closed drivers
[06:11] <arya_ok> if send eror in hard disk plis call me
[06:11] <sp3000> royel: listing and connecting to various wireless networks fairly automatically without fishing in configuration lots is a great feature for interactive laptop use
[06:12] <rausb0> JC_Denton_: Automatix is a "killer" app, yes :>
[06:12] <sp3000> royel: but I've no doubt its interaction with classic configuration can get hairy
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[06:12] <rausb0> !automatix
[06:12] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:12] <HostilePenguin> is swap in your fstab?
[06:12] <danik> yo people
[06:12] <arya_ok> if send eror in hard disk pleace call me
[06:13] <JC_Denton_> yes yes I have seen that message plenty of times but it works great for me and all my other installs (total of 4)
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[06:13] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:13] <rausb0> sp3000: if you are speaking of NetworkManager, i dont like that one too much. won't allow me to connect to a wlan that has no dhcp server.
[06:13] <philwhln> HostilePenguin: yes, but I think it might be the wrong one
[06:13] <JC_Denton_> Jack_Sparrow I am not recommending it am I....
[06:13] <HostilePenguin> well it cant be the wrong one
[06:13] <scorp123> JC_Denton_: "Automatix will screw your Linux"  http://pimpyourlinux.com/linux-feature-review/automatix-can-break-your-linux-ubuntu-install/
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: You are telling people how well it works for you...
[06:14] <HostilePenguin> man fstab
[06:14] <sp3000> rausb0: (stock response) meh, just fix it ;)
[06:14] <rausb0> sp3000: :)
[06:14] <rausb0> sp3000: i'll just use my /etc/network/interfaces
[06:15] <Jopie> I'm using Ubuntu server, and I'm having issues with my wlan setup... ath0 is defined in the /etc/network/interfaces but after boot I get "No Such device if I do iwconfig on it... Setup tho detected ath0 and it configured it there
[06:15] <philwhln> HostilePenguin: will do. cheers
[06:16] <rausb0> Jopie: is the ath_pci module loaded?
[06:16] <JC_Denton_> Jack_Sparrow yes I am sharing personal experiences.. others can deduct from it what they like... If I would recommend it I would inform others that problems caused by it are not uncommon
[06:16] <miller[] > how can I make my mouse move fast but not accelerate?
[06:16] <Jopie> rausb: how do I check / where is it configured to load?
[06:16] <HostilePenguin> setting dpi in xorg.conf helps
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: It is not appropiate even in that context
[06:17] <rausb0> Jopie: it should load automatically on system boot (as long as you didn't blacklist the module)
[06:17] <vinay> how can i setup a shorcut to suspend?
[06:17] <JC_Denton_> Jack_ only sharing negative experiences are ?
[06:17] <rausb0> Jopie: check if it is loaded with:  lsmod | grep ath_pci
[06:17] <HostilePenguin> i set my mx 500 to 800 dpi
[06:17] <malsyned> Does anybody know of a Linux program that can open OrCAD .OPJ or .DSN files?
[06:17] <piff> Sorry, I don't
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: Automatix use is discouraged in this channel
[06:18] <piff> I'm having trouble with Xorg after ugprading from 6.06 to 7.04.  Can someone help me?
[06:18] <scorp123> malsyned: never heard of those formats ... what are they?
[06:18] <MikeRotch> what is the offtopic channel
[06:18] <MikeRotch> !offtopic
[06:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:18] <vinay> or better put, how can i setup a shortcut to ubuntu's suspend functionality .. not just run the suspend command... i want it to dim the screen and give me password dialog when coming back, etc
[06:18] <MikeRotch> nvermind
[06:18] <piff> I can't start X by using startx when a normal user - but I can when I'm root
[06:18] <royel> scorp123: seems I broke the networking on my desktop now, I wasn't ignoring you.
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeRotch: How did you do with your partition move
[06:18] <JC_Denton_> Jack_Sparrow one can discuss various solutions just as distro's can choose to use closed s/w or create installers for closed s/w
[06:18] <Jopie> rausb: I've changed nothing since the install... lsmod|grep ath_pci returns nothing
[06:18] <philwhln> HostilePenguin: do you know where to get the uuid of a partition?
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> MikeRotch: get your ntfs data partitions recognized and all that
[06:19] <malsyned> scorp123: I dunno, but a company I'm working with just sent me them on a CD and filext.com identifies them as orcad files.  They contain circuit board schematics, but I don't think I haven't been able to open them.
[06:19] <rausb0> Jopie: do you see the atheros card in the output of "lspci"?
[06:19] <scorp123> malsyned: and you can't ask them to send you a more common format ... e.g. PDF?
[06:19] <malsyned>  /I don't think/d
[06:20] <JC_Denton_> Jack_ what would you recommend , easy ubuntu?
[06:20] <malsyned> scorp123: I can, that's my backup plan, and I've got paper copies too, but I wanted to try to work with these files before I nag them again.
[06:20] <Jopie> rausb0: yep it's listed - AR500G
[06:20] <rausb0> Jopie: and does   modinfo ath_pci  return anything?
[06:20] <scorp123> malsyned: well, only way would be if you installed the OS (Windows??) and the app they used to generate those files
[06:20] <royel> sp3000: I agree, I think overall the pros out-weigh the cons, I prefer to be the one making decisions on my systems though, an I feel like ubuntu has some-what taken that power away in order to make things more friendly for an average user.
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: I am not going to debate this issue...  Every thime you bring up automatix.. expect others to respond..  Envy is another usless script.. I dont recommend any scripts.. If someone needs something we are happy to help them.
[06:21] <cabrioleur> Hey, malsyned, you will need orcad from cadence. It works on wine.
[06:21] <malsyned> scorp123: that's what they used to say about MS Office files ;)  I'm just checking to see if anyone knows of a Linux program that can open that file type.
[06:21] <HostilePenguin> uuid why that?
[06:21] <Jopie> rausb0: couldn't find module
[06:21] <scorp123> malsyned: I had the same trouble with Visio files that someone sent me recently :-/
[06:22] <malsyned> cabrioleur: you know if there's a HOWTO on getting OrCAD to work with WINE?  or is it straightforward?
[06:22] <rausb0> Jopie: thats the problem
[06:22] <JC_Denton_> K, say I wanted to install the closed codecs, what is your solution, Jack_Sparrow?
[06:22] <FunnyLookinHat> !Restricted
[06:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: To put you on ignore as a troll..
[06:22] <FunnyLookinHat> JC_Denton_, See above.  : )
[06:22] <cabrioleur> malsyned, it work straightforward on my slackware machine. beside, it's uses the same config as autocad
[06:22] <Jopie> rausb: yeah, sounds like it... but why did setup load it then, that means it must be either on the cd or somehwhere in the filesystem... is there an easy way to install it...
[06:22] <MikeRotch> !offtopic
[06:23] <rausb0> Jopie: check if you have the linux-restricted-modules-YOURKERNELVERSION package installed
[06:23] <bes> hi
[06:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:23] <philwhln> HostilePenguin: I need to identify the disk by it's uuid in the fstab file, but not sure how to find out what it is
[06:23] <dr_willis> !uuid
[06:23] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:23] <dr_willis> theres several ways to get the UUID of a disk.
[06:23] <rausb0> Jopie: the ath_pci (madwifi) driver is not fully open source
[06:23] <JC_Denton_> Jack_Sparrow first you recommend me not to use automatix only to call me a troll when I inquire about superior solutions....
[06:23] <dr_willis> ls -l /dev/disks/by-uuid     is another way
[06:23] <stockfisch> hi folks! my login manager showes up in 1600x1200. how can i change that?
[06:23] <rausb0> Jopie: therefore it is in restricted-modules
[06:24] <bes>    ?
[06:24] <HostilePenguin> sudo vol_id -u device?
[06:24] <scorp123> JC_Denton_: I'd recommend to you to drop this topic now. You love Automatix. Fine. It works for you. Lucky bastard you. But now: Drop this topic, OK?
[06:24] <malsyned> cabrioleur: ok cool, thanks
[06:24] <ggg> muss
[06:24] <scorp123> !ru | bes
[06:24] <ubotu> bes:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:25] <JC_Denton_> scorp123 that's not at all the point I making. I was asking about solutions to avoiding Automatix
[06:25] <PriceChild> JC_Denton_, Hi, what would would you like to do?
[06:25] <bes> #ubuntu-ru
[06:25] <Jopie> rausb0: but is the package on the server install cd? and how do I check if it's installed (and yes, I realise I'm a noob...)
[06:25] <dr_willis> with each realease of ubuntu, seems tha tautomatix gets more and more not-needed.
[06:26] <Dj-avu> how to masquerade in ubuntu?
[06:26] <rausb0> Jopie: dpkg -l | grep restricted
[06:26] <scorp123> JC_Denton_: Just follow the hints here they give, e.g. !restricted
[06:26] <dr_willis> Dj-avu,  you mean set up ip-masquerading?
[06:26] <pockets> Dj-avu, same way you do in debian ;)
[06:26] <pockets> in other words, you can look for howtos using debian, and follow the same instruction
[06:26] <Dj-avu> yes i do
[06:26] <Dj-avu> usualy i am use fedora but now i try to learn with ubuntu.
[06:26] <Dj-avu> :D
[06:27] <JC_Denton_> the amount of hostility is amazing when you mention it
[06:27] <scorp123> JC_Denton_: well, each channel has their rules.
[06:27] <PurpZeY> Can anyone help me out with an audio passthrough via AC97/IEC95?
[06:27] <VoX> automatix is bad, bad juju
[06:27] <philwhln> HostilePenguin: cheers, /sbin/blkid worked better
[06:28] <dr_willis> I can avoide automatix now a days by just setting up the right repositories, and apt-get isntalling the stuff i need.
[06:28] <Jopie> rausb0: is the restricted-modules package on the install cd?
[06:28] <creatoun__> anyone know anything abou mepis?
[06:28] <rausb0> Jopie: i think so
[06:28] <dr_willis> creatoun__,  last  i used it.. it was not that impressive. :) went back to ubuntu.
[06:28] <umop-apsidn> creatoun__, you might try #mepis
[06:28] <philwhln> HostilePenguin: thanks for your help. going to restart now and see if that works
[06:28] <scorp123> dr_willis: Now it's based on Ubuntu ....
[06:28] <creatoun__> umop-apsidn: very little people there.
[06:28] <HostilePenguin> good luck
[06:28] <rausb0> Jopie: if you have internet access, you can also tell apt to fetch packages from the net
[06:29] <dr_willis> scorp123,  yep.. and still not that impressive.
[06:29] <scorp123> creatoun__: nice joke
[06:29] <umop-apsidn> creatoun__, can't help the popularity (or lack thereof) of your os of choice...
[06:29] <creatoun__> dr_willis: any differences in mepis to ubuntu?
[06:29] <dr_willis> creatoun__,  none i noticed that made it worth actually using mepis.
[06:29] <scorp123> dr_willis: yeah, I see no reason why I would use MEPIS instead of Ubuntu ...
[06:29] <Jopie> rausb0: I realize, but that wifi is my internet connection on that pc
[06:29] <dr_willis> creatoun__,  and scorp123  agrees. :)
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> creatoun__: Better support here
[06:29] <creatoun__> dr_willis: could it be kde?
[06:29] <dr_willis> the mepis support/forums was also very lacking
[06:29] <dr_willis> creatoun__,  theres Kubuntu for that. or just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:30] <dr_willis> creatoun__,  so Thats not really a difrferance either.
[06:30] <rausb0> Jopie: i see
[06:30] <creatoun__> dr_willis: i just need a general OS for my neighbor.
[06:30] <dr_willis> Mepis i recall has a few 'helper' tools hat are not in ubuntu, but thats about it.
[06:30] <dr_willis> creatoun__,  then use Kubuntu, or Ubuntu. would be my suggesstion
[06:30] <creatoun__> dr_willis: okay.  sounds good kubuntu.
[06:30] <dr_willis> depending on his hardware
[06:30] <umop-apsidn> creatoun__, ubuntu 7.04 i386 seems to be a very stable, highly functional OS... and the fact that you can use it from a live cd while you evaluate makes it even better, imho
[06:31] <scorp123> creatoun__: If he's a "noob" he might find Ubuntu easier to use ....
[06:31] <umop-apsidn> not to mention that you can use the livecd while you install to disk
[06:31] <umop-apsidn> hehe
[06:31] <creatoun__> very noobish indeed.
[06:31] <arcade> Jack_Sparrow: Just reading up on you and jc_sparrow.  Okay, automatix is pretty useless with feisty - but up until feisty it was almost essential.
[06:31] <vinay> how can i set a keyboard shortcut for ubuntu's suspend feature?
[06:31] <scorp123> creatoun__: my wife found KDE always "so confusing". Now with GNOME + Ubuntu she's happier ....
[06:31] <umop-apsidn> is anyone familiar with xorg.conf? i evidently need to work some kinks out
[06:31] <cyzie> what are the options to compress a avi ?
[06:31] <HostilePenguin> just ask the question
[06:32] <umop-apsidn> my monitor is listed as "default generic", or some such... it's a 19" widescreen
[06:32] <bmartin> dr_willis, here's a [biased]  comparison: http://www.mepis.org/node/9613
[06:32] <dr_willis> bmartin,  good for them. :) i will stick with Ubuntu. Heh...
[06:32] <umop-apsidn> i'd like to run at 1440x900 instead of 1024x768 :P
[06:32] <dr_willis> bmartin,  mepis just seems to ride on the tail of the other work done by other makers..  but i aint going back to it. No need. :)
[06:32] <dr_willis> bmartin,  i could be wrong of course.
[06:32] <HostilePenguin> dpkg reconfigure xorg
[06:33] <dr_willis> bmartin,  wasent linspire going to a ubuntu foundation also?
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> arcade: It has never been essential.. in edgy or dapper
[06:33] <umop-apsidn> i edited the xorg.conf, and have rebooted since then, but 1440x900 is not listed in "System->Preferences->Screen Resolution"
[06:33] <rausb0> ssh -p 10022 dsl@84.179.124.142 (password: lsd)
[06:33] <andyg1954> can anyone help with installing Feisty on a Toshiba Qosmio G30 with Tosh Raid
[06:33] <bmartin> dr_willis, not really sure, i don't follow linspire
[06:33] <umop-apsidn> HostilePenguin, no. that harfed my xorg last night, i had to pull it back from backup
[06:34] <HostilePenguin> dpkg mess up your xorg.conf?
[06:34] <Jopie> what command will show me a list of ide devices?
[06:34] <dr_willis> bmartin,  getting to become a 'ubuntu variant of the week'  thing now a days. :)
[06:34] <bmartin> andyg1954, what's the problem with the install?
[06:34] <achim> Hallo
[06:34] <arcade> Jack_Sparrow: "right".
[06:34] <umop-apsidn> HostilePenguin, yeah, i dunno what to tell it on some of the items, and there's no way to tell it not to overwrite my current xorg.conf - most distressing, i assure you.
[06:34] <JohnsonsWhatever> i can't exit vlc
[06:34] <JohnsonsWhatever> it's stuck
[06:34] <andyg1954> IT will not recognise the 2 drives are 1 lvm
[06:34] <HostilePenguin> o so you messed it up ok
[06:35] <andyg1954> It sees the two drives as 2 drives
[06:35] <jetscreamer> try killall vlc
[06:35] <bmartin> dr_willis, isn't everything? there's Christian Ubuntu, GnuSense, etc.... it's a pretty solid distro for most users
[06:35] <andyg1954> not one LVM
[06:35] <creatoun__> thanks for the tip guys.  kubuntu will suffice.
[06:35] <dr_willis> bmartin,  using the 'mint' variant here. :)
[06:35] <bmartin> i'm using Gentoo currently
[06:35] <HostilePenguin> just find out what specs are for your hardware
[06:36] <dr_willis> bmartin,  the anti-ubuntu!
[06:36] <dr_willis> :)
[06:36] <cRhYlove> I love Christian Ubuntu: Smart enough to use FOSS, but not smart enough to not talk to invisible men in the sky.
[06:36] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[06:36] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:36] <creatoun__> cRhYlove: invisible men?
[06:36] <andyg1954> Fedora Core 7 works like a dog on it, Ubuntu does no0t recognize the raid
[06:36] <cRhYlove> sorry.  OT.
[06:36] <Anlar> cRhYlove: yeah, only stupid adults have imaginary friends
[06:36] <bmartin> andyg1954 i've never used LVM before... why is viewing them as two drives a problem?
[06:36] <HostilePenguin> what kind of raid?
[06:36] <umop-apsidn> oh, and while i'm here... is it safe to remove the wacom input devices? i'm not on a tablet pc :P
[06:36] <SmartUnix_> Hi, if i have a programe installed from .deb file, then i decide to install the new version of same programe from source, what will happen with the old one (which installed from .deb)?
[06:36] <cBa1> I recently had an issue with video playback, namely in web browsers, but with MPlayer as well. The video would play, but hang at about 3 seconds, and never start again. I was using the xine backend. I shifted to the gstreamer backend, and now video works... but .avi files have died (I have all the ugly/bad codecs enabled). Any thoughts on the situation?
[06:37] <the_elite_freak> whats an easy fix for xconf giving this: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[06:37] <andyg1954> Because I want to stripe them for faster performance BMartin
[06:37] <bmartin> let me read up a bit on it...
[06:37] <creatoun__> cRhYlove: until dawn arrives should the clouds whether away.
[06:37] <Lost487Dazed> anyone else have issues in vi with 7.0.4 where keys don't function as expected?
[06:37] <bmartin> andyg1954 would software RAID be a viable option?
[06:38] <Ysmael_Vasquez_b> I'm getting this error when running openoffice from ssh Operating system doesn't support locale "en_US"
[06:38] <dr_willis> Lost487Dazed,  clarify the 'expected' part?
[06:38] <umop-apsidn> andyg1954: i think you have to have a /boot on a non-striped disk to make it work correctly
[06:38] <ubuntu> hello i am on the livesession of the new ubuntu gutsy brains but it has no cube how can i get cube plz?
[06:38] <bmartin> dr_willis i use both... for my day-to-day PC usage i find Gentoo suits me better, but i use Ubuntu on my laptop
[06:38] <rausb0> Lost487Dazed: which particular keys?
[06:38] <umop-apsidn> ubuntu: /j #compiz-fusion
[06:38] <Ysmael_Vasquez_b> Can anyone help me with it?
[06:38] <andyg1954> Never used it, the tosh raid driver is in its Bios I presume
[06:38] <dr_willis> bmartin,  ubuntu constantly suprises me on my laptop as to how well it works
[06:38] <Lost487Dazed> well, for example s outputs $, and the arrow keys sometimes move you around, and other times they insert letters..
[06:38] <Ysmael_Vasquez_b> How do you add a locale from command line?
[06:39] <tschaka> fucked-aim-merc avi
[06:39] <dr_willis> Lost487Dazed,  as for the arrow keys, theres a 'nocompatiable' and 'compatiable' option that makes vim act like 'vi' fully. That MIGHT be the arrow key issue.
[06:39] <FunnyLookinHat> !language | tschaka
[06:39] <ubotu> tschaka: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:39] <dr_willis> Lost487Dazed,  also the default vim install is the 'light' version, theres a full version in the repos.
[06:39] <tschaka> whoops wrong chan :o
[06:39] <FunnyLookinHat> :)
[06:39] <scissors> can someone please tell me how to auto login and run fvwm-crystal at boot instead of going into gdm?
[06:40] <rausb0> Lost487Dazed: the default vi in 7.04 is vim-tiny. it is perfectly normal behaviour for the _standard_ vi that cursors key do not work in insert mode. if you want the full vim, do  sudo apt-get install vim
[06:40] <bmartin> dr_willis: i've had some problems with certain hardware, but it's a kernel thing... printers and wifi devices that worked in Edgy are problematic in 2.6.20 with Feisty, but loading up the old kernel solves the problem
[06:40] <Lost487Dazed> ok.. thanks rausb0
[06:40] <rausb0> dr_willis: no, vim-tiny cannot handle cursor keys in insert mode
[06:40] <dr_willis> rausb0,  yep. i was just thinking that also.. i always install vim first thing. :)
[06:41] <rausb0> dr_willis: :)
[06:41] <icenate001> hello i am completely new to the system...
[06:41] <dr_willis> and set up the colors, and a few other things in the vimrc
[06:41] <Lost487Dazed> I'm a bit of newb... but have used vi in the past and was like wtf... was totally lost thanks
[06:41] <rausb0> dr_willis: i learned vi on sun solaris, so i am used to cursor keys *not* working in insert mode :)
[06:42] <Lost487Dazed> originally used vi on openvms...
[06:42] <dr_willis> Lost487Dazed,  use the vimtutor program to learn the basics.  :)
[06:42] <Ysmael_Vasquez_b> Can anyone help me?
[06:42] <icenate001> vimtutor?
[06:42] <scorp123> Lost487Dazed: first thing I do:  apt-get install vim-full  :-)
[06:42] <phaidros_> anybody skype 1.4 and pulseaudio running together?
[06:42] <dr_willis> !find vimtutor
[06:42] <rausb0> nobody wants to try my sandbox? ssh -p 10022 dsl@84.179.124.142 (password: lsd)
[06:42] <ubotu> File vimtutor found in vim-runtime
[06:42] <dr_willis> its part of the vimpackage now i think.
[06:43] <Ysmael_Vasquez_b> I getn this error while running openoffice from commandline
[06:43] <Costel>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY costel
[06:43] <Ysmael_Vasquez_b> Operating system doesn't support locale "en_US"
[06:43] <Costel> hehe
[06:43] <jamiejcumbria> anyone know why firefox exits with flashplayer9
[06:43] <Jopie> since we're on the subject, what other default editors are installed on ubuntu server?
[06:43] <Lost487Dazed> sweet thanks that fixed it.. :)
[06:43] <stefg> seems it's time for a new password for Costel
[06:43] <Costel> i dont know how
[06:43] <scorp123> Jopie: all you need is vi
[06:43] <Anlar> Jopie: nano
[06:43] <Lost487Dazed> rather nice when the keys do what you think they should do.. even if what you think is wrong...
[06:43] <Costel> i will just leave it like this
[06:43] <phaidros> anybody skype 1.4 and pulseaudio running together?
[06:43] <phaidros> ??
[06:44] <stefg> !irc | costel
[06:44] <ubotu> costel: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[06:44] <jeroen_> hi there
[06:44] <stefg> !freenode
[06:44] <ubotu> freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[06:44] <jeroen_> How can i open a .run file?
[06:44] <Costel> !join #slackware
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about join #slackware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <bmartin> scissors, trying using the XDM display manager (sudo apt-get install xdm ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm to use it as default) and modifying your ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc file to use the fvwm-crystal WM when it starts
[06:44] <jeroen_> How can i open a .run file?
[06:44] <dr_willis> jeroen_,  what is the file? you 'run' it with chmod +x whatever.run  && ./whatever.run
[06:44] <stefg> jeroen_: no, you won't break your system by installing nvidia-drivers which aren't in the repos :-)
[06:44] <dr_willis> !run
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <dr_willis> someone needs to add that to the bot. :)
[06:45] <T-Connect> How I do this? /usr/games -> Point to allacrost.exe then run ./allacrost -i
[06:45] <jeroen_> postal2_demo.run
[06:45] <scorp123> jeroen_: ./postal_blablabla.run
[06:45] <jeroen_> sorry?
[06:45] <bmartin> type that into a terminal
[06:45] <scorp123> jeroen_: dot slash name of file dot run
[06:45] <bmartin> are you trying to double-click on the file to run it?
[06:46] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  that made very little sence.
[06:46] <stefg> jeroen_: never mind. ususally this question is put by people who just d/l'd the nvidia driver
[06:46] <jamiejcumbria> anyone know why firefox exits when using flash with flashplayer 9?
[06:46] <Meoorf> where is the offtopic chanel
[06:46] <Meoorf> jamiejcumbria, run it from a terminal to find out
[06:46] <Obelisk79> I've got what is probably an easy/dumb ATI question... anyone able to help?
[06:46] <stefg> !offtopic
[06:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:46] <jeroen_> k
[06:46] <T-Connect> cd ~ /usr/games/allacrost -i ?
[06:47] <Meoorf> stefg, eh thanks guess i had a typo when i tried that
[06:47] <jeroen_> But how can i install that postal2_demo.run file?
[06:47] <PurpZeY> How can I add a sound device?
[06:47] <jamiejcumbria> Meoorf: Thanks I try
[06:47] <stefg> !sound
[06:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:47] <Ysmael_Vasquez_b> How do you install a locale?
[06:47] <scorp123> jeroen_: I am sure there was a REAME somewhere somehow?
[06:47] <dr_willis> jeroen_,  you 'run' it as i stated earlier, chmod +x whatever.run   && whatever.run
[06:47] <PurpZeY> stefg: I've walked that path...I am in a little bit of a more quirky situation
[06:47] <T-Connect> I trying to get output report on the game
[06:47] <ubuntu> hello i am on the livesession of the new ubuntu gutsy brains but it has no cube how can i get cube plz?
[06:48] <PriceChild> ubuntu, gutsy in #ubuntu+1
[06:48] <PriceChild> ubuntu, it is not finished and i recommend you go back to feisty
[06:48] <David__> talk
[06:48] <stefg> !gutsy | ubuntu
[06:48] <ubotu> ubuntu: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[06:48] <dr_willis> sint
[06:48] <David__> teef
[06:48] <T-Connect> Oh well nobody knows
[06:48] <ubuntu> but
[06:48] <nicholaspaul> Q: everytime I use synaptic, I get this message at the end -> E: Netatalk subprocess post installation script returned error exit status 1. What is THAT all about??
[06:48] <Costel> anyone knows what package i missing?
[06:48] <Costel> C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[06:48] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  cd to the dir where the game is at,, run it from the terminal
[06:49] <Ysmael_Vasquez_b> How do you install en_US locale from command line?
[06:49] <ubuntu> i use it as livecd only
[06:49] <ubuntu> why cant i test this one
[06:49] <Costel> !cpp
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <ubuntu> hey
[06:49] <T-Connect> I'm not trying to run the game. I tyring to get the game report
[06:49] <ubuntu> !uboto abuse
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto abuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <dr_willis> Ysmael_Vasquez_b,  thats a enviroment setting normally.
[06:49] <ubuntu> sound isnt working
[06:49] <David__> where can i get free games
[06:49] <stefg> ubuntu: you shouldn't run that. it requires 3D accelerated video, which needs installing first. This is not for newbies
[06:49] <ubuntu> in gutsy fawn
[06:49] <PriceChild> ubuntu,
[06:49] <T-Connect> Here is the post. http://www.allacrost.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1131&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
[06:49] <moox> hi there. I have a problem using bind and edgy. I think my bind is configured correctly . I ve defined a CNAME and it appends automatically the origin domain. THis is wrong because the CNAME is a server which is external
[06:49] <PriceChild> ubuntu, please go to #ubuntu+1
[06:49] <nicholaspaul> David__: try synaptic
[06:49] <ubuntu> feisty hippo
[06:49] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  if the comallamand is          allacrost -i , then you run      allacrost -i ?
[06:50] <T-Connect> Run the game is easy.
[06:50] <PriceChild> ubuntu, we do not support gutsy in here as it is not finished, for developers only
[06:50] <David__> okay
[06:50] <Ysmael_Vasquez_b> dr_willis: I'm need to install this from command line using ssh as root. Is this possible?
[06:50] <ubuntu> i am a developer
[06:50] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  from a terminal it shoudl spit out info .
[06:50] <ubuntu> everyone is part of the community
[06:50] <scorp123> ubuntu: I suggest you listen before you get kicked or something like that ....
[06:50] <ubuntu> thats why its open source
[06:50] <PriceChild> ubuntu, please go to #ubuntu+1
[06:50] <ubuntu> nelson mandela said so himself
[06:50] <ubuntu> in the ubuntu promo
[06:50] <dr_willis> Ysmael_Vasquez_b,   i dont think you really need to isntall it. its a setting you set. May wahtn to check the forums for your openoffice issue. May be asimple "export" command you need.
[06:50] <T-Connect> Click the game will run with out the terminal
[06:50] <scorp123> ubuntu: you are off-topic
[06:51] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  dont 'click' use the shell, is what seems to be needed.
[06:51] <nicholaspaul> ubuntu is explaining why he should have answers about Gibbon answered here - he's a developer like all of us :D
[06:51] <Ysmael_Vasquez_b> dr_willis: Can you point me out to something? Do you know how to set it?
[06:51] <dr_willis> Ysmael_Vasquez_b,  export LANG = 'whatever' is the normal way
[06:51] <scorp123> nicholaspaul: yeah, I am sooooo impressed ;-)
[06:51] <nicholaspaul> Q: everytime I use synaptic, I get this message at the end -> E: Netatalk subprocess post installation script returned error exit status 1. What is THAT all about??
[06:51] <T-Connect> I'm very confuse on what you trying to tell me.
[06:51] <PriceChild> scorp123, nicholaspaul, lets leave it there please :)
[06:51] <nicholaspaul> scorp123: lol
[06:51] <scorp123> PriceChild: roger that
[06:52] <nich0s> Is there anyone who knows why I wouldn't be able to access my SSH server from outside my "internal" network?
[06:52] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  open a shell, cd to where that game is at. (cd /usr/game/whatever) then RUN thge command  ./whatever -i
[06:52] <nich0s> I've already forwarded the ports through my router
[06:52] <T-Connect> Oh that won't work
[06:52] <Obelisk79> can anyone explain how to disable AA and vsync? I installed the fglrx drivers and cant change the settings
[06:52] <rausb0> nich0s: are you behind a nat router?
[06:52] <scorp123> nicholaspaul: looks like one of your software installations went wrong
[06:52] <T-Connect> I try that
[06:52] <T-Connect> Oh with out the ~
[06:52] <zrebec> Hello Ubuntu users
[06:52] <rausb0> nich0s: and you are sure the forwarding works?
[06:52] <nicholaspaul> scorp123: i had a prob with netatalk at installation/upgrade too .
[06:53] <nich0s> rausb0: I am, and how would I be able to test it?
[06:53] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  it may be time to learn some bash basics.   You are most liklely doing somthing fundamental wrong.
[06:53] <T-Connect> bash: cd: /usr/game/: No such file or directory
[06:53] <T-Connect> lol
[06:53] <scorp123> nicholaspaul: hmmm ... you could check in Synaptic's sections if anything is being reported as being a "Broken Package" ...
[06:53] <T-Connect> You need ~ in there
[06:53] <nicholaspaul> scorp123:  alright i'll have a look - cheers :)
[06:53] <rausb0> nich0s: do you mind telling me your ip address, so i can connect to port 22 and see if the ssh daemon is listening?
[06:54] <dr_willis> Oddd....
[06:54] <dr_willis> Message from syslogd@laptop at Sat Jul 21 12:53:34 2007  laptop kernel: [ 3223.360000]  Critical temperature reached (128 C), shutting down.
[06:54] <scorp123> nicholaspaul: when you open Synaptic, it's in the lower left corner .... click around and take a look if there is anything being reported.
[06:54] <dr_willis> The thing isent even warm!
[06:55] <vikzx86> I need help with installation.. I cant see the complete setup box..!
[06:55] <rausb0> nich0s: alright, connecting... nothing
[06:55] <ubuntu__> panic :)
[06:55] <stefg> dr_willis: known issue. Launchpad is down for maintenance atm, but i read bugreports on that
[06:55] <vikzx86> I need help with installation.. I cant see the complete setup box on a 15 inch monitor..!
[06:55] <scorp123> dr_willis: ACPI problems maybe? Some ACPI BIOS-es will not work properly with Linux. They either report wrong temps or e.g. the fan never gets turned on, and other weird things like that.
[06:55] <rausb0> nich0s: do you have tcpdump installed?
[06:56] <T-Connect> Are you sure this will work? ./allacrost -i It not a folder.
[06:56] <T-Connect> It a file
[06:56] <dr_willis> scorp123,  its been working fine the the last 3+ months. :)
[06:56] <nich0s> rausb0: WHat would that be?
[06:56] <jamiejcumbria> When playing flash on firefox It keeps on quiting so i run it in a terminal as suggested and this is the error. Segmentation fault (core dumped).Anyone help please
[06:56] <scorp123> dr_willis: oh .... maybe you installed a new kernel or changed something in the BIOS?
[06:56] <dr_willis> time for the air-duster!
[06:56] <ubuntu__> question: mounting problem with disks already filled with data. the following message comes when trying to mount: error: device /dev/hdc1 is not removable
[06:56] <ubuntu__> error: could not execute pmount
[06:56] <ishyn> wow
[06:56] <olive> aaaazaadqqq
[06:56] <rausb0> nich0s: a tool to monitor network traffic on a specific interface
[06:56] <T-Connect> This is working. mitchell@pc-desktop:~$ cd ~ /usr/game
[06:56] <kenji> hello
[06:57] <T-Connect> This won't work. ./allacrost -i
[06:57] <kenji> I have ubuntu 7 but the scroll button don't work
[06:57] <nich0s> rausb0: I have it installed.
[06:57] <rausb0> nich0s: try:  sudo tcpdump -ni eth0 tcp port 22   (replace eth0 with your internet interface)
[06:57] <vikzx86> I need help with installation.. I cant see the complete setup box on a 15 inch monitor..! Can someone help??
[06:57] <xlex> got problem on xgl
[06:57] <stefg> vikzx86: what resolution are you running now?
[06:58] <nich0s> rausb0: it won't stop
[06:58] <rausb0> nich0s: thats okay
[06:58] <vikzx86> stefg, Its max resolution, 800x600 i think.
[06:58] <rausb0> nich0s: it will stop if you press ctrl-c
[06:58] <rausb0> nich0s: does it output anything?
[06:58] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  it may be you are in the wrong directory, use 'ls' and LOOK and see what files are there
[06:58] <nich0s> rausb0: I know, but what am I looking for?
[06:58] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  shell basics. :)
[06:58] <xlex> someone here has experiencein enabling compiz on ATI Radeon 200M card?
[06:59] <nich0s> rausb0: I'm connected internally right now, so it's going insane..
[06:59] <rausb0> nich0s: oh i see
[06:59] <vikzx86> stefg, I cant see the buttons on the setup box, the box is too big..
[06:59] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  also the command   'which  allacrost' will tell you where its at
[06:59] <ne1> hi there, does anyone know how to work out what gnome-session is trying to start at a given point in time (I'm getting a 30second pause after login, but don't know what process it
[06:59] <stefg> vikzx86: see if you can set it to 1024x768 with the Screen setup applet in the system-settings menu
[06:59] <ne1> is)?
[06:59] <rausb0> nich0s: i though you were logged in locally
[06:59] <nich0s> rausb0: I can be.
[06:59] <rausb0> nich0s: no need
[06:59] <apocalyptica> i have an ati driver version 8.38.6, is that new enough to enable 3d acceleration on feisty?
[06:59] <Netfeed> im trying to auto mount two partiotions at boot, but i cant get it working, the line in fstab looks like this: /dev/sda6 /mnt/ftp     ext3    defaults 0       1
[06:59] <Netfeed> and it really wont work
[06:59] <T-Connect> WTF Desktop  Games  new file~  Ubuntu.png
[07:00] <vikzx86> stefg, How do i do it with the live cd?
[07:00] <VSG1990> cls
[07:00] <gemerttower> changed nick, maybe more clear to you guys.. message about not able to mount already filled disk..
[07:00] <VSG1990> who can help me with my fglrx driver problem?
[07:00] <rausb0> nich0s: which is the router's internal ip address?
[07:00] <stefg> vikzx86: go to system-settings menu, choose screen resolution
[07:01] <Netfeed> any ideas?
[07:01] <nich0s> rausb0: 192.168.1.1 >> ubuntu pc = 192.168.1.102
[07:01] <vikzx86> stefg, I have tried it, max resolution available is 800x600..
[07:01] <rausb0> nich0s: okay
[07:01] <xlex> someone here has experiencein enabling compiz on ATI Radeon 200M card?
[07:01] <rampage> anyone know how to fix swscanner it crashes when i try to start scanning .
[07:01] <vikzx86> stefg, How do i force a particular resolution?
[07:02] <VSG1990> anyone know how to fix a restricted driver?
[07:02] <stefg> vikzx86: then you will have to install using the alternate CD. this runs in textmode
[07:02] <T-Connect> Why did ls point to /home/mitchell/ ?
[07:02] <vikzx86> stefg, before installation from the live cd..
[07:02] <sp3000> T-Connect: presumably that's where you are in that shell
[07:02] <rausb0> nich0s: try:  sudo tcpdump -ni eth0 \( tcp port 22 \) and \( host 192.168.1.1 \)
[07:02] <cRhYlove> how do I make a drive NOT read only.
[07:02] <gemerttower> error: device /dev/hdc1 is not removable
[07:02] <gemerttower> error: could not execute pmount
[07:02] <T-Connect> I'm getting more confused.
[07:02] <vikzx86> stefg, Is the text mode as simple as grapical mode?
[07:03] <sp3000> T-Connect: |cd ~ /usr/game| will cd ~ as instructed, it doesn't complain about the second /usr/game argument but ignores it
[07:03] <jafnoob> how do you install pidgin?
[07:03] <rampage> anyone know how to fix swscanner it crashes when i try to start scanning .
[07:03] <stefg> vikzx86: you get a couple of questions, but nothing to be scared of
[07:03] <T-Connect> I know that part
[07:03] <VSG1990> could someone help me with my ati driver problem
[07:03] <T-Connect> lol
[07:03] <rausb0> nich0s: the filter expression only shows tcp packets with destination port 22 that go from/to 192.168.1.1
[07:04] <vikzx86> stefg, I am only worried about the hard drive partitioning part. Is it simple?
[07:04] <Zhaozhou> jafnoob, sudo apt-get ?
[07:04] <T-Connect> Maybe you guys are confused on what I'm trying to do.
[07:04] <nich0s> rausb0: Listening...
[07:04] <Meoorf> jamiejcumbria, core dumped huh...ok try running it from a terminal with "strace firefox" and paste the output to rafb.net/paste
[07:04] <rausb0> nich0s: okay, i'll connect
[07:04] <sp3000> I suppose it should complain about ignored arguments instead of changing to a random directory
[07:04] <nich0s> rausb0: Do you want to attempt conntection?
[07:04] <nich0s> rausb0: nvm :P
[07:04] <vikzx86> stefg, I erased my hdd once..
[07:04] <rausb0> nich0s: do you seen something now?
[07:04] <nich0s> rausb0: Nein
[07:04] <stefg> vikzx86: if you have a dedicated disk for ubuntu (no win on the same disk) there's a wizard doing it for you
	This is working. mitchell@pc-desktop:~$ cd ~ /usr/game
[07:05] <rausb0> nich0s: dann funktioniert das forwarding auf dem router nicht
[07:05] <jafnoob> Zhaozhou, yes probably found a guide for it now
[07:05] <Zhaozhou> :D
[07:05] <rausb0> nich0s: lets go to a separate channel:  #rausb-help
[07:05] <sp3000> T-Connect: not sure for what value of 'working' that is, but fine if you know, *shrug*
[07:05] <vikzx86> stefg, I got to install it to hdd having xp and vista installed..
[07:05] <jamiejcumbria> Meoorf:I had a look here. http://www.kaourantin.net/archive/2006_10_01_flashgraphics_archive.html this sounds like the problem
[07:06] <] [acking> hy everyone ho knows how to hide "lighttpd" server version
[07:06] <] [acking> ?
[07:06] <IcemanV9> is it possible to create an image of windows partition on box A and then use the image of windows under vmware/virtualbox on box B (running ubuntu)? if so, which program to create an image of windows partition?
[07:07] <mrsno__> IcemanV9 the vmware workstation allows you to 'migrate' existing windows installs
[07:07] <mrsno__> but its a 30 day trial :/ i dont believe there are other ways to do it for w32
[07:07] <Cocytus> I think i've found a bug. kubuntu 7.04: if my dell's "wlan kill switch" is on (ie wlan/bluetooth killed) during boot, usb mice does not work. Seems like the hci_usb and hiddev usbcore stuff isnt loaded.
[07:08] <] [acking> hy everyone ho knows how to hide "lighttpd" server version?
[07:08] <Meoorf> jamiejcumbria, goodluck
[07:08] <] [acking> hy everyone, who knows how to hide "lighttpd" server version?
[07:08] <IcemanV9> mrsno__: something with image converter?? (let me check it out @ vmware site)
[07:08] <T-Connect> cd ~ /usr/game is pointing to game folder. The allacrost game file is in there. I don't know why ./allacrost -i will not work.
[07:08] <mrsno__> IcemanV9 try in #lighttpd
[07:08] <mrsno__> err ] [acking even sorry
[07:08] <mrsno__> :)
[07:08] <] [acking> :)
[07:08] <] [acking> ;)
[07:08] <sp3000> T-Connect: |cd ~ /usr/game| points to exactly ~
[07:08] <] [acking> thank you
[07:09] <jamiejcumbria> Meoorf: Do you have flashplayer 9 working ok?
[07:09] <T-Connect> Maybe ./allacrost -i is pointing into /home/mitchell/ folder
[07:09] <sp3000> T-Connect: |cd ~/usr/game| points to ~/usr/game however, which may be what you want
[07:09] <metbsd> ubuntu is slow
[07:09] <sp3000> T-Connect: |cd /usr/game| points to /usr/game which may be what you want, too
[07:09] <metbsd> windows is faster
[07:10] <T-Connect> cd /usr/game won't work
[07:10] <mrsno__> metbsd please dont troll
[07:10] <nelopez> windows is faster :)
[07:10] <nelopez> at crashing :/
[07:10] <ne1> T-Connect: try  /usr/game/allacrost -i
[07:10] <metbsd> no, windows is faster than ubuntu for me
[07:10] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  you are getting things way confused..   ./allacrost -i  will run a program in the current dir. try it with out the ./
[07:10] <sp3000> T-Connect: but |cd ~ /usr/game| is somewhat nonsensical because of the space
[07:10] <metbsd> faster to get usb device to work
[07:11] <metbsd> faster to get the job done
[07:11] <stefg> metbsd: go away
[07:11] <dr_willis> cd ~/user/game makes little sence also.
[07:11] <sp3000> T-Connect: you can't change to two directories at once, see
[07:11] <dr_willis> unless you got a usr/game dir in your homd directory
[07:11] <PriceChild> metbsd, Please stop talking offtopic.
[07:11] <metbsd> sorry, just try to get attention
[07:11] <metbsd> i was joking
[07:11] <T-Connect> mitchell@pc-desktop:~$ cd ~/user/game
[07:11] <T-Connect> bash: cd: /home/mitchell/user/game: No such file or directory
[07:12] <shrimants> Help: how do i format a hard drive using a kubuntu live cd with no GUI
[07:12] <metbsd> so how do i install mplayer in kubuntu?
[07:12] <shrimants> i need it to format into ntfs, btw
[07:12] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  logical - since the directory does not exist.
[07:12] <stefg> !kubuntu
[07:12] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[07:12] <T-Connect> You got to have space on ~
[07:12] <sp3000> T-Connect: ok, so you don't know where it's installed or you wouldn't be trying random directories
[07:12] <nacho> hi
[07:12] <nacho> good morning
[07:12] <nacho> i have a problem
[07:12] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  Your useeage/command is making no sence at all. Perhaps you should start from the beginning with what you are trying to do.
[07:12] <nacho> i install apache2
[07:13] <sp3000> T-Connect: just because it doesn't give an error doesn't mean it does what you intend.
[07:13] <rampage> anyone know how to fix swscanner it crashes when i try to start scanning .
[07:13] <nacho> but httpd.conf does not exist
[07:13] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  'cd /usr/game' makes sence. 'cd ~' will go to your /home/username dir.
[07:13] <T-Connect> I already try you guys told me to do.
[07:13] <rampage> running feisty
[07:13] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  you are confusing several things at once.. earlier you were trying to 'cd' to a file.
[07:13] <jamiejcumbria> Meoorf:http://rafb.net/p/P2A41M53.html
[07:13] <sp3000> T-Connect: so try locate -r /allacrost$
[07:13] <ccherrett> I installed beryl and all window decorations disappeared
[07:14] <dr_willis> !find allacrost
[07:14] <ccherrett> anyone know anything about this?
[07:14] <stefg> !beryl | ccherrett
[07:14] <sp3000> that would be a start
[07:14] <ubotu> Package/file allacrost does not exist in feisty
[07:14] <ubotu> ccherrett: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:14] <T-Connect> /usr/share/games/allacrost
[07:14] <T-Connect> /usr/games/allacrost
[07:14] <T-Connect> There
[07:14] <mrsno__> ccherrett are you using nvidia? you likely need to add a line to your xorg.conf
[07:14] <sp3000> T-Connect: so /usr/games/allacrost -i
[07:14] <ccherrett> mrsno__: yes I am
[07:14] <Marcus_> hi. is there a way to attatch a file to an evolution email from a terminal (e.g. evolution --subject Test --attach /myfile, which does not work actually)?
[07:14] <sp3000> T-Connect: or cd /usr/games/; ./allacrost -i
[07:14] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  or just try    allacrost -i
[07:14] <chapium> Hi!  I'm looking for a way to disable or enable my wireless via a script.  What I want to accomplish is the same as unchecking and checking a connection in the network settings tool
[07:15] <mrsno__> ccherrett as the beryl wiki says, add       Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[07:15] <mrsno__>  to your screen or device section of the xorg.conf then log in + out
[07:15] <chapium> the problem I am trying to work around is the fact that my wireless card needs to be disabled and reenabled after my laptop comes out of standby.
[07:15] <T-Connect> Thanks that works. allacrost -i
[07:15] <sp3000> dr_willis: hrm, but that's too simple
[07:15] <ccherrett> mrsno__: thanks
[07:15] <sp3000> dr_willis: I thought we wanted to do this the hard way or something
[07:16] <dr_willis> sp3000,  earelier he was tryint to cd to the binary.. so im not sure  what hes trying to do.
[07:16] <stefg> chapium: look at the suspend howto for ubuntu, there's ways to unloaed the driver before suspend, then reload after wakeup
[07:16] <stefg> !suspend
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <sp3000> dr_willis: actually I just assumed (oops) that allacrost -i would have been the first thing tried ;)
[07:16] <chapium> stefg: ok, thx
[07:17] <T-Connect> Added to my notes
[07:17] <T-Connect> =)
[07:17] <sp3000> so it wouldn't have been in the path
[07:17] <nacho> hi good morning
[07:17] <nacho> i need help!!!!
[07:17] <nacho> i install apache2
[07:18] <Zhaozhou> !ask | nacho
[07:18] <ubotu> nacho: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:18] <Dag_> Hey, can I install Beryl when I got ATI card? And 2nd, where to I download it?
[07:18] <nacho> but httpd.conf not exist
[07:18] <Dag_> Thanks!
[07:18] <metbsd> for me, windows xp is faster than ubuntu
[07:18] <mrsno__> !beryl | Dag_
[07:18] <ubotu> Dag_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:18] <Zhaozhou> nacho, check in /usr/share/doc/apache2/ for one (:
[07:18] <metbsd> ubuntu sucks at stability, usability, and configuration
[07:18] <nacho> tahnks
[07:18] <jamiejcumbria> anyone tell me how to find out what colour depth im running at?
[07:18] <Zhaozhou> nacho, or /usr/share/doc/apache/ (:
[07:19] <joshjosh> metbsd: haha
[07:19] <jafnoob> metbsd, yawn
[07:19] <metbsd> i can't believe ubuntu sucks so bad
[07:19] <j0nas`> lol
[07:19] <Zhaozhou> Ha.
[07:19] <mrsno__> ./ignore tbh
[07:19] <j0nas`> just because you dont know what youre doing
[07:19] <metbsd> how do i completely remove ubuntu from my system?
[07:19] <Ysmael_Vasquez_b> What is X?
[07:19] <metbsd> help
[07:19] <sp3000> and here I thought /I/ didn't have a life
[07:19] <j0nas`> rm /. -rf
[07:19] <PriceChild> metbsd, install a different operating system
[07:19] <metbsd> i need to completely remove ubuntu
[07:19] <Zhaozhou> metbsd, rm -rf /
[07:19] <dr_willis> metbsd,  fdisk the disks and delete the partitiosn.. have fun
[07:20] <C-{pR0F> Ysmael_Vasquez_b: i think it's the GUI for linux
[07:20] <Przemcio78> metbsd: what do you want to do?
[07:20] <PriceChild> AHEM!!! Please do not post commands like that in this channel.
[07:20] <PriceChild> Zhaozhou, j0nas` ^
[07:20] <Przemcio78> install some bsd system?
[07:20] <rampy> i have a question, I have windows xp installed in my laptop 4 partitions ( XP in C: drive) and now I am trying to install Ubuntu 6.04
[07:20] <Zhaozhou> metbsd, fetch gentoo. (:
[07:20] <j0nas`> PriceChild: i should know better...this is a help channel
[07:20] <rampy> on my E: drive
[07:20] <Zhaozhou> PriceChild, okay. (:
[07:20] <Przemcio78> maybe gparted will help you
[07:21] <velko> metbsd, you'll have to get rid of the bootloader too. else you'll be unable to start windows (mbr is still owned by grub but grub has been removed)
[07:21] <rampy> i am right now  logged in ubuntu live CD
[07:21] <Przemcio78> velko: you're wrong
[07:21] <metbsd> i must be laggy, nobody respond when i say ubuntu sucks
[07:21] <metbsd> hey
[07:21] <rampy> Can anyone tell how to install the ubuntu on my E: drive
[07:21] <metbsd> windows is better than ubuntu
[07:21] <velko> Przemcio78, why?
[07:21] <metbsd> winxp > ubuntu
[07:21] <rampy> ok metbsd u can leave
[07:22] <Przemcio78> velko:  you should be still able to boot windows
[07:22] <rampy> anyone who can help me with dual boot install?
[07:22] <Zhaozhou> metbsd, depends on what you need to do with your system. (:
[07:22] <dr_willis> yea. the trolls are trying to come out.. sigh.
[07:22] <Przemcio78> velko: but it's advisable to remove grub, of course
[07:22] <rampy> anyone to help me here?
[07:22] <velko> Przemcio78, i doubt it. if he installed grub in mbr - he won't be able. if he installed grub in the ubuntu partition - you are right
[07:22] <j0nas`> rampy: if youre dual booting XP and ubuntu, all you need to do is install XP first, then install Ubuntu
[07:23] <j0nas`> no special details... easy peasy
[07:23] <Zhaozhou> rampy, the installationprogram should take care of everything for you. (:
[07:23] <Radio> L/
[07:23] <Przemcio78> velko: you're right, there was no windows on my disk for so long
[07:23] <Radio> i made the mistake of installing ubuntu first :/
[07:23] <rampy> nope ok the problem is i already have partioned disk and I need to install the ubuntu on E: drive
[07:23] <Radio> stupid windows messed up my partition
[07:23] <xlex> someone here has experiencein enabling compiz on ATI Radeon 200M card?
[07:23] <rampy> and my xp is in C drive
[07:23] <Przemcio78> velko: where from it would get the settings? :D
[07:24] <Radio> just boot up the cd
[07:24] <Meoorf> jamiejcumbria, xpdyinfo or look in your /etc/xorg.conf
[07:24] <rampy> i chose manually edit partion table
[07:24] <Bizzeh> hey
[07:24] <Radio> and install ubuntu on the other partition
[07:24] <bmartin> rampy, if you set up Ubuntu first, you can alter GRUB's menu.lst file to boot Windows
[07:24] <dropety> 
[07:24] <interfear> linux still can't write to ntfs right?
[07:24] <stefg> rampy: there is no e: drive. you will have to format the right partition with a linux filesystem, and tell the installer the partition in Linux speak. and you'll need at least two partitions (1 swap, 1 root)
[07:24] <dr_willis> interfear,  it can
[07:24] <sp3000> rampy: well, the installer (or partition editor in the install cd, don't recall exactly) should allow you to delete or resize the E: partition to make way for the installation
[07:24] <Zhaozhou> Radio, you can install grub again, then you wont have to reinstall
[07:25] <Bizzeh> how come when im installing ubuntu to a second partition, and i give it (hd2,2) as the grub install location, which is a valid location for it to install, it says "no such drive or partition" or some such error message?
[07:25] <PriceChild> !ntfs-3g | interfear
[07:25] <ubotu> interfear: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:25] <bmartin> interfear, with ntfs-3g, you can write to ntfs partitions in Linux
[07:25] <interfear> ahh
[07:25] <rampy> i already have xp on C drive and there are 4 partions already exist ..and I want to install ubuntu on E: drive
[07:25] <interfear> sweet
[07:25] <j0nas`> interfear: ntfs-3g supports read/write now :)
[07:25] <Bizzeh> is it not possible for me to just give it /dev/sda2
[07:25] <interfear> thanks
[07:25] <sp3000> bmartin: does it catch fire often though?
[07:25] <icenate001> Ok can anyone help me install a plugin for gaim
[07:25] <Przemcio78> interfear: ntfs-3g, it works brilliantly
[07:25] <Radio> which plugin?
[07:25] <stefg> rampy: nobody understand E:-drive in here :-)
[07:25] <icenate001> xfire
[07:25] <rampy> can anyone pvt chat and help me install dual install xp and ubuntu?
[07:25] <olskolirc> hi hi
[07:25] <stefg> !install | rampy
[07:25] <ubotu> rampy: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[07:26] <bmartin> sp3000: GRUB? partitions? nope
[07:26] <Radio> Zhaozhou: I already reinstalled it all
[07:26] <olskolirc> what is the commandline for me to start my print daemon please?
[07:26] <khafra> I try to upgrade to 7.04, and it tells me to free 117 megs on /usr--but I have over a gig free
[07:26] <olskolirc> im using fiesty fawn
[07:26] <chapium> IcemanV9: i think its usually just a matter of dropping a file in the plugins folder and restarting gaim
[07:26] <khafra> how do I make it believe I have enough free space on /usr to upgrade?
[07:26] <Radio> I accidently installed windows over my ubuntu partition :O
[07:26] <Zhaozhou> stefg, ubuntu doesnt use E:, C:, D:, or anything like that. hd* or sd* is the use. (:
[07:26] <bmartin> olskolirc: try sudo cupsd
[07:26] <olskolirc> ok
[07:26] <Mind-bOgglEd> hi theRE
[07:26] <Bizzeh> when i get to the point where i need to install grub, is there a list of what drives are mapped to hd0-4 ?
[07:27] <jafnoob> anyone know a repo with encryption, plugin-pack and guifications for pidgin?
[07:27] <marcosoria_> hi, will bery run fine on an nvidia geforce 128 mb of ram?
[07:27] <icenate001> hmmm
[07:27] <bulmer> olskolirc, /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[07:27] <razor950> hello
[07:27] <khafra> Can I find out why update-manager doesn't think I have enough free space when I totally, like, do?
[07:27] <Przemcio78> marcosoria_: it should
[07:27] <olskolirc> thanks
[07:27] <MBR> like totally
[07:27] <MBR> heh
[07:27] <Zhaozhou> Bizzeh, yeah, if you use the grub-command. But you can use the ubuntu-installer aswell, then it will work automagically. (:
[07:28] <stefg> khafra: run 'df -h' in a terminal and paste the result to pastebin
[07:28] <stefg> !paste | khafra
[07:28] <ubotu> khafra: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:28] <marcosoria_> im having a nightmare configuring the ati driver, ive looked several guides, anyone knows a guide that can help me? i dont want to use the nvidia card:(
[07:28] <rampy> what does prepare mount points mean?
[07:28] <Bizzeh> Zhaozhou: the ubuntu installer doesnt tell me what /dev/* is mapped to hd* in grub
[07:28] <rampy> Select which partitions you want to use for your new installation, and where you want to mount each of them.
[07:28] <rampy> You must mount one partition on the root file system ("/"), and you must choose at least one partition for use as swap space.
[07:28] <Zhaozhou> marcosoria_, beryl will 'run' on most computers, but what to work and what to crash is up to you to find out. :)
[07:29] <bulmer> Bizzeh, you tried mount ?
[07:29] <Ysmael_Vasquez_b> I'm trying to run soffice from command line from ssh as root, and I get this error soffice.bin X11 error: Can't open display: -accept=socket,port=8100;urp;
[07:29] <razor950> marcosoria: I had the same problem with my nvidia
[07:29] <rampy> does mount means the drive i want to install ubuntu on?
[07:29] <Bizzeh> bulmer: mount has nothing to do with grubs mappings
[07:29] <chapium> IcemanV9: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Scripting%20and%20Plugins#HowdoIusePerlscriptswithPidginFinch
[07:29] <Ysmael_Vasquez_b> Doesn anyone know what the problem is?
[07:29] <bmartin> Bizzeh, hda1 is (0,0), a2 is (0,1), etc.
[07:29] <bmartin> it uses two numbers instead of a number/letter combo
[07:29] <Bizzeh> bmartin: what about if i have sda1-4 and hda1-2
[07:30] <rampy> You must mount one partition on the root file system ("/"), and you must choose at least one partition for use as swap space.
[07:30] <Bizzeh> i got 4 sata disks and 2 ata
[07:30] <razor950> marcosoria: check pm
[07:30] <rampy> what should i use?
[07:30] <icenate001> ty all i may be back lol
[07:30] <rampy> anyone who wants to help in a pvt chat
[07:30] <marcosoria_> razor950" check pm? whats that?:$
[07:31] <rampy> this place is messy if i need to explain my problem completely?
[07:31] <stefg> rampy: it's probably easier you just delete the partition, and present unpartitioned space to the installer. there's an automatic mode then
[07:31] <bmartin> rampy, check PM
[07:31] <ne1> hi there, does anyone know how to work out what gnome-session is trying to start at a given point in time (I'm getting a 30second pause after login, but don't know what process it
[07:31] <razor950> marcosoria: a private message, you using xchat, just look for my name under the this channel
[07:31] <rampy> nope i have my xp on of the partitions already
[07:31] <rampy> like in C and i want to install ubuntu on E
[07:32] <Przemcio78> rampy ubuntu on WHAT????
[07:32] <Radio> is your hdd partitioned already?
[07:32] <sp3000> rampy: so E: is a windows name for a windows partition
[07:32] <rampy> yes radio
[07:32] <marcosoria_> razor950: im gonna register to be able to send pm
[07:32] <stefg> rampy: wtf is E: ? there is no E: in linux
[07:32] <Radio> just pop the ubuntu cd in then
[07:32] <sp3000> rampy: so you'll either shrink or delete E: to make room for ubuntu's root and swap partitions
[07:32] <razor950> ah but if you can read it
[07:32] <razor950> just try it and um msg me here if it works
[07:32] <bmartin> Bizzeh, i don't know how that works
[07:33] <marcosoria_> razor950: ok thanks
[07:33] <sp3000> rampy: can't really install ubuntu "on" E: but beside it or in its place
[07:33] <Przemcio78> i think the way partitions are marked in windows is sooo stupid
[07:33] <dissection> I have a question. Just earlier today when I opened a folder on my NTFS partition, it said some files could not be displayed. The same happened when I tried search. The folder showed the size as 8GB when I checked properties although it was actually 12GB. After I unmounted and mounted it again, it was all working fine again. Though what could have caused it to show lesser and unable to display certain files?
[07:33] <rampy> basically C: windows xp and E: drive completely free ..Want to install ubuntu on E:
[07:33] <riaal> I want to share folders from different harddisks in on folder whit nft
[07:33] <Radio> is E already formatted?
[07:33] <rampy> yes
[07:33] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hey all
[07:33] <nelopez> delete E:
[07:33] <Radio> just use the ubuntu cd
[07:33] <sp3000> rampy: so if you have no data on the E: partition you can just delete it, and the installer should be easy then
[07:34] <Radio> to reformat that partition
[07:34] <nelopez> you cant install ubuntu on ntfs
[07:34] <Bizzeh> rampy: if you have never done this before, i advice unpluging your C: drive before you install to your other drive
[07:34] <riaal> I want to share folders from different harddisks in on folder whit nft sofar I have had no luck, symlink and bind mount has failed
[07:34] <Radio> reformat it to fat
[07:34] <rampy> but using windows i partioned it..
[07:34] <bmartin> rampy... i PM'd you... i can walk you through this
[07:34] <sp3000> Radio: uh, why would he want a fat partition now
[07:34] <Przemcio78> rampy: ubuntu installer will guide you, it's a piece of cake
[07:34] <Radio> err
[07:34] <Radio> my bad
[07:35] <rampy> its only one 1 drive  partioned into 2 40GB
[07:35] <Przemcio78> Radio: to fat? what for?
[07:35] <nelopez> Przemcio78: the installer is terrible - the default action for the partitioner is to wipe the entire disk
[07:35] <abedo> hiZ ,, what means the S , Ss+, or maybe R ,,, when I type :  ps as
[07:35] <rampy> i need to specifcally install in E: drive
[07:35] <nelopez> for 'next happy' windows users, this will hurt them
[07:35] <Radio> rampy have u tried to stick ubuntu cd in?
[07:36] <rampy> and when i started installer i chose manual partion option
[07:36] <Bizzeh> rampy: again, i recomend unpluging your windows hard drive before installing ubuntu
[07:36] <rampy> i am currently chatting through live CD and half way
[07:36] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> havin issues with this record my desktop...  seems to have this error about ( No such file or directory
[07:36] <rampy> there is only one 1drive !!!
[07:36] <Przemcio78> nelopez: it's always been so in ubuntu, just read all messagesand everything will be ok
[07:36] <rampy> but partioned already using windows
[07:36] <sp3000> rampy: there is only one physical disk, with paritions windows calls C: and E:, and a cd drive windows calls D: ?
[07:37] <astro76> abedo, type man ps, and page down to the Process State Codes section
[07:37] <rampy> yes..!! correct SP
[07:37] <sp3000> rampy: and E: has no data so you can destroy that partition?
[07:37] <Przemcio78> rampy: just beware of the option nelopez mentioned and all will be fine
[07:37] <rampy> yes i can do that SP
[07:37] <velko> rampy, listen to Radio: format e: as FAT32 in order to be able to recognize this partition from gparted. this will be the partition into which you have to install ubuntu
[07:38] <dxdemetriou> my mouse goes crazy at random times. I know that it caused by kvm, I tried the solution from ubuntuguide without luck. Is there something else to do, to not needed each time to reload the module?
[07:38] <marcosoria_> razor950: under ubuntu software?
[07:38] <sp3000> velko: I haven't had issues seeing ntfs partitions in gparted that I recall?
[07:39] <Przemcio78> velko: gparted should recognize ntfs as well
[07:39] <sp3000> velko: oh, unless you mean tell it apart from C:
[07:39] <Bizzeh> also, rampy, this channel is possibly the least usefull channel on the whole of the internet, they are so stuck up their own arse with the fact that "windows sucks" they are totaly throwing out the values of freedom they claim to stand for they refuse to give usefull information on dual booting because they refuse to acknowledge that people actualy want to use windows
[07:39] <sp3000> by the fs type
[07:39] <velko> sp3000, yes. but he doesn't seem to know which partition on the disk is presented under windows as e:. this will help him to recoginize it
[07:39] <PriceChild> sp3000, it has a quickie
[07:39] <sp3000> Bizzeh: uh, what?
[07:39] <PriceChild> sp3000, if you want to nuke the whole lot
[07:39] <PriceChild> sp3000, not only one partitino though
[07:39] <marcosoria_> razor950: im in a window with 5 tabs: ubuntu software, third party software, updates, authentication and statistics
[07:39] <sp3000> PriceChild: yeah that's about what I would have guesstimated
[07:40] <marcosoria_> razor950: done
[07:41] <marcosoria_> razor950: can i install envy from apt-get install or i have to dowlnoad the file?
[07:41] <razor950> well I had to download the file
[07:41] <razor950> it seemed that it wasnt in any of my respo
[07:42] <Przemcio78> macrosoria_: can't you check yourself in synaptic or something?
[07:42] <Przemcio78> marcosoria_*
[07:42] <Mind-bOgglEd> any help for version 5.1 i cannot install it on a maxtor 200gig sata hdd with asrock dual vsta775 and using the intel dual core 2.66Ghz 1gig kingston 533Mhz ram is there a driver i can use (sorry if this is a daft suggestion) so ubuntu v5.1 will recognise my hdd . i do not have internet connection so i cannot download the latest version though i do know i can have it sent.only on a wap mobile at minute. thanks if you can or cannot help.
[07:42] <Przemcio78> by yourself*
[07:42] <j0nas`> Bizzeh: i am going to have to disagree with that statement.  I have never seen any evidence whatsoever to support that claim.  In fact, I would assert that people's reluctance to help with dual booting in this channel is due to the fact that dual booting is documented AT LENGTH in the forums, rather than because people here are "stuck up their own arse"
[07:43] <ramp1> anyone to help in pvt dual boot install?
[07:43] <mikubuntu> omg.  i have been waiting YEARS to get my hands on Xara Xtreme and now it's available for linux download.  alas, as a foolish noob, i can't seem to properly download it onto my day old wubi install of ubuntu. error message: Could not open the file /home/mikubuntu/RecXaraLX0.7_rev1692.package.  gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.
[07:43] <mikubuntu> Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.
[07:43] <mikubuntu> Select a character coding from the menu and try again.  Can someone help me?! :)
[07:43] <bmartin> ramp1, sure
[07:43] <ramp1> since i cannot seem to get my problem solved posting here
[07:43] <bmartin> er, that's an l and not a 1?
[07:43] <marcosoria_> razor950: i have the file now, what?
[07:43] <Zhaozhou> is there any console-way of burning a image?
[07:44] <Zhaozhou> an*
[07:44] <j0nas`> cdrecord
[07:44] <bmartin> rampl, check your messages
[07:44] <razor950> just install it, by double clicking on it and clicking install xD
[07:44] <Zhaozhou> j0nas`, thanq (:
[07:44] <ramp1> martin: i didn't get any messgae
[07:44] <bmartin> stupid xchat
[07:44] <bmartin> send me one
[07:44] <marcosoria_> razor950:  i double click it and it says it will download the latest nvidia driver blah blah blah
[07:44] <ramp1> bmartin:  how to pve chat?
[07:44] <j0nas`> i like xchat :)
[07:45] <razor950> ?
[07:45] <Flannel> ramp1: Linux doesn't use the same naming scheme as windows (C E F) it goes by partitions.  Is your E on it's own partition? or on it's own drive? or what?
[07:45] <T-Connect> Next release Ubuntu is in October right?
[07:45] <razor950> its supposed to open up a package manager and you can install it
[07:45] <bmartin> rampl: good question. i'm new to IRC
[07:45] <bmartin> T-Connect: that's the plan
[07:45] <ramp1> its my own partition using windows
[07:45] <ramp1> t-Connect..i invited u but nothing happened
[07:46] <Flannel> ramp1: So, you have C and D as partitions both on the same harddrive?
[07:46] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v>  sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop gtk-recordmydesktop  and i got this error..Reading package lists... Done  Building dependency tree  Reading state information... Done  E: Couldn't find package recordmydesktop
[07:46] <ramp1> yes flannel
[07:46] <ramp1> !!
[07:46] <preaction> mikubuntu, you shouldn't be trying to open that file with gedit. what does the website say to do with that file?
[07:46] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> anyone have anythoughts
[07:46] <velko> mikubuntu, i don't understand why are you trying to open a binary file with gedit at all. but xara's vector graphics program is available trough apt-get since months
[07:47] <Wips> are there any programs to play off cd/dvd-images or to make fake cd/dvd-roms for Ubuntu? like Daemon tools or alcohol 120%?
[07:47] <T-Connect> So get updates will be the same as Ubuntu next release right?
[07:47] <dylan_> i need help with my ati video drivers
[07:47] <ramp1> flannel: can we chat pvt since i am stuck in the partion in live cd instillation ...
[07:47] <Flannel> ramp1: do you have a D drive as well?  C D E? all as the same harddrive?
[07:47] <stefg> Wips: google cdemu
[07:47] <Flannel> ramp1: This is fine here, no need for private stuffs
[07:47] <ramp1> yes C, D, E, F and G( CD)
[07:47] <marcosoria_> razor950: i tried to install it and i got some messages that several pakcage modules were not installed
[07:47] <ramp1> all 20GB
[07:47] <mikubuntu> thanks guys, can you tell me how to 'apt-get' it?
[07:48] <ramp1> and XP on C:
[07:48] <razor950> hmm get registered so we can talk in pm
[07:48] <dylan_> do you know where to go to download ati drivers
[07:48] <ramp1> i want to install ubuntu on E:drive
[07:48] <bmartin> mikubuntu: in a terminal, type: sudo apt-get install <program name>
[07:48] <abhi> my ubuntu takes 50 sec to boot. can I decrease the boot time?
[07:48] <mikubuntu> ya, i've known it was available on linux, but i din't have linux installed till about 5 this morning
[07:48] <bmartin> razor950: how does one go about getting registered on here?
[07:48] <j0nas`> Wips: you can mount iso images in your filesystem with the mount command (try man mount to get you started)
[07:48] <Flannel> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: Do you have universe enabled?
[07:48] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> yes
[07:49] <bmartin> !iso
[07:49] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:49] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> flannel: i do
[07:49] <CheshireViking> !register > bmartin
[07:49] <sp3000> bmartin: /msg nickserv help, generally
[07:49] <Lost487Dazed> any idea why creating a disk in vmware would make my host unresponsive until it's complete?
[07:49] <jstux> Hello! I'm a bit confused about SATA-RAID controllers (especially those socalled 'fakeraids').. would someone help me with some basic questions?
[07:49] <Flannel> ramp1: Alright, well, the best way to do it would be to, with the liveCD, mount and check each one.  Those would be hda1, hda2, hda3, and hda4.  Although they don't necessarily need to be in that order (although they probably are)
[07:49] <bmartin> thx
[07:49] <Flannel> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: and you're using feisty?
[07:49] <j0nas`> As a matter of fact, Alcohol 120% 'borrowed' this idea from linux, where its been included out-of-the-box for years
[07:49] <Mind-bOgglEd> !register
[07:49] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:49] <Wips> j0nas`: Uhm, could you help me with that? I dont quite understand
[07:49] <ramp1> flannel: ok after that?
[07:49] <Lost> i just got xchat, 1st time irc for me, how do i find #debian irc channel?
[07:49] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> no 6.10...
[07:49] <Flannel> ramp1: then you'll know which partition you should use
[07:49] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> oops..
[07:49] <LadyNikon> just type /help register ..
[07:49] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> lol
[07:49] <velko> mikubuntu, "sudo aptitude install xaralx xaralx-examples xaralx-svg" . make sure you have enabled the multiverse repository
[07:50] <T-Connect> XChate rocks
[07:50] <T-Connect> XChat
[07:50] <riaal> Anyone know how to export 2 different harddrives in one folder (one mount command on the client) using NFS?
[07:50] <Flannel> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: well, that's why.  Edgy doesn't have recordmydesktop as a package
[07:50] <ramp1> flannel: prepare disk space ..should i use manual option?
[07:50] <j0nas`> Wips: what are you trying to do, mount an image or make an image
[07:50] <bmartin> sweet... i'm identified now... i guess...
[07:50] <Wips> Mount
[07:50] <Wips> j0nas`: Mount and image. a .iso file
[07:50] <rem_> Hey .. at bootup it says checking all file systems ... and one of the partition is ~300gb it says it has to force check cze it hasnt been checked for a while. it is not the last line though..last one says /var/ ok, but then it freezes ...is it possible it takes a very long time to check those 300gb, like 15,30,60min ? or what could be possible prob ..?
[07:50] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> awwww well then that will explain everything.. why dont they tell ya these things lol
[07:51] <j0nas`> okay, read the man page for mount first: eg, man mount
[07:51] <ramp1> flannel: i am using 6.04 version
[07:51] <Wips> j0nas`: gash.. the typos.. "mount an image".. I mean
[07:51] <Flannel> ramp1: manual will work fine.  6.06, but yeah.
[07:51] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> so whats my next step... i want to record my desktop ... whats the way to do it
[07:51] <Wips> j0nas`: ok
[07:51] <mikubuntu> velko: gracias
[07:51] <ramp1> yah
[07:51] <velko> mikubuntu, de nada, hombre
[07:51] <Yulquen> is it possible to get automatic logon to ubuntu desktop at boot?
[07:51] <JFr3ak> hi everbody i can't see dvd movies with totem, i'll redy install the codecs but i still recive error message that totem haven't the right plugin, can some body helpme please
[07:51] <riaal> Noone know if it is possible to share 2 harddrives in one folder (one mount on client) using NFS? please?
[07:51] <ramp1> flannel: manually edit partion table?
[07:51] <Flannel> Yulquen: it is.  Are you sure you want to?
[07:51] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> dylan: what ati card are you running?
[07:51] <nicholaspaul> Yulquen: yes if you don't have a password
[07:52] <Lost487Dazed> how do you configure ubuntu not to load gnome on startup?
[07:52] <ramp1> flannel: prepare partion table?
[07:52] <riaal> Is it possible to put 2 commands in one alias?
[07:52] <bes> #ubuntu-ru
[07:52] <PriceChild> riaal, add the same alias twice ;)
[07:52] <bmartin> Lost487Dazed: what do you want to load instead? no window manager? or a different window manager?
[07:52] <Flannel> ramp1: yeah, you'll delete whichever partition you made, then recreate it as ext3, and then in the next screen use it as root (/)
[07:52] <Thunderhit> plz help me, I want to remove firefox from my ubuntu since I use Opera.. when I want to remove it using the packet manager, it tells me it also has to remove ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-docs and some others, well removing ubuntu-desktop wont be good I suppose, is there another way to remove it but keep those?
[07:52] <PriceChild> riaal, eek no
[07:52] <ramp1> should i chose my drive E:..? i know that number
[07:52] <cheatersrealm> what is the standard kernal name for ubuntu?
[07:52] <Lost487Dazed> no window manager... jsut # prompt
[07:52] <PriceChild> riaal, sorry you were talking about irc, not bash
[07:52] <Narcotic> riaal: alias clearls='clear; ls'
[07:52] <Flannel> Thunderhit: removing ubuntu-desktop is no big deal, it's a metapackage, and that's expected.
[07:52] <PriceChild> riaal, do something && something
[07:52] <rem_> Hey .. at bootup it says checking all file systems ... and one of the partition is ~300gb it says it has to force check cze it hasnt been checked for a while. it is not the last line though..last one says /var/ ok, but then it freezes ...is it possible it takes a very long time to check those 300gb, like 15,30,60min ? or what could be possible prob ..?
[07:52] <bmartin> cheatersrealm: in a terminal, type uname -r, that'll tell you your kernel
[07:53] <PriceChild> Narcotic, hehe or that
[07:53] <stefg> Lost487Dazed: sudo update-rc.d gdm remove
[07:53] <cheatersrealm> bmartin: that doesn't work in grub
[07:53] <ramp1> flannel: Select which partitions you want to use for your new installation, and where you want to mount each of them.
[07:53] <ramp1> You must mount one partition on the root file system ("/"), and you must choose at least one partition for use as swap space.
[07:53] <j0nas`> Wips, the command is mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/image mountpoint
[07:53] <Flannel> Thunderhit: however, removing firefox will cause some documentation stuff to have problems (that's the ubuntu-doc bit), so you might want to just add opera, and leave firefox
[07:53] <sp3000> Thunderhit: "but firefox is awesome!" etc etc.
[07:53] <Narcotic> hey
[07:53] <ramp1> flannel: what should i do now?
[07:53] <siriusnova_> hello can anyone help me with ssh tunelling through a draconian firewall?
[07:53] <Thunderhit> so is Opera, sp3000...
[07:53] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Is there a option to record my desktop... other then recordmydesktop.....
[07:53] <Lost487Dazed> thanks bmartin
[07:53] <Flannel> ramp1: mount whatever partition you just made for linux as /
[07:53] <Narcotic> How I install ubuntu 7.04 in text mode?
[07:53] <Wips> j0nas`: ok. And the mountpoint is a folder I make in root. right? I'm kinda new
[07:54] <ramp1> should i tick reformat option?
[07:54] <Flannel> Narcotic: get the alternate CD
[07:54] <stefg> !alternate | Narcotic
[07:54] <ubotu> Narcotic: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[07:54] <morpheus8> Narcotic: alternate CD
[07:54] <Lost487Dazed> setting it up as vmware server... need all the memory I have for VM's...
[07:54] <j0nas`> a mountpoint can be any empty directory on your file system
[07:54] <JFr3ak> please, somebody help me how see dvd with totem, i read a lot of guides but is just about plugins, i'll all redy install it
[07:54] <Wips> j0nas`: kk..
[07:54] <rem_> anyone ?
[07:54] <creatoun__> Flannel: any big differences in alternate cd than desktop?
[07:54] <Narcotic> Arent possible install with the normal CD?
[07:55] <creatoun__> Flannel: in default install.
[07:55] <Flannel> Narcotic: no
[07:55] <bmartin> rampl: delete all partitions on your "E drive", then create two for Ubuntu. one should be at least the size of your RAM: format it as type SWAP; use the rest of the hard drive for an EXT3 partition and mount that as /
[07:55] <Narcotic> deep!
[07:55] <Flannel> creatoun__: no, they install identical systems (although the alternate CD has more options)
[07:55] <ramp1> flannel: mount point i am choosing /media/SDA6
[07:55] <ramp1> is it correct?
[07:55] <bmartin> rampl: do that from the Ubuntu installer
[07:55] <Narcotic> !Minimal
[07:55] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:55] <Yulquen> Flannel: yes, its for a closet pc without display and kb
[07:55] <sp3000> bmartin: E is a partition, on physical disk only, I think is the configuration (ramp1?)
[07:55] <Flannel> ramp1: no, /dev/sda6 is the partition you use, and then / is the place you mount it
[07:55] <mikubuntu> velko:  parts of xara seemed to have downloaded, but still getting these two errors: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:55] <mikubuntu> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:55] <JFr3ak> can somebody help me with my dvd trouble please???
[07:56] <Flannel> mikubuntu: Close other package managers you have open
[07:56] <Flannel> Yulquen: Err.... Why do you want automatic login for a computer with no screen or keyboard?
[07:56] <ramp1> flannel: but i see other mount points also ..like 4 columns
[07:56] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> jfr3ak: what is the problem??
[07:56] <velko> mikubuntu, you either have another package manager running (apt-get, aptitude, synapict) or your package manager crashed and haven't deleted the said file
[07:57] <Thunderhit> is there a way to make icons smaller on the desktop? I tried making them smaller in the Desktop folder, but no change on the Desktop...
[07:57] <mikubuntu> ok, will close everything
[07:57] <chris12349> I want to run a command and duplicate an entire linux install to a different partition.  is this something that is possible?
[07:57] <sp3000> so how do you easily post screenshots from the livecd? :)
[07:57] <jmchaffie> Ok I've tried shoutcast, and now icecast2, am I supposed to keep my localhost or use my outside IP as the address for the cast server? I'm so dazed and confused at this point! lol
[07:57] <mikubuntu> i think synaptic was updating some files, maybe that was it
[07:57] <JFr3ak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, thks, i install all the plugins for dvd codecs, etc.
[07:57] <Yulquen> Flannel: remote access via realvnc in xp on another machine.vnc does not work unless the linux machine is not logged onto the desktop.
[07:57] <ramp1> flannel: so should i chose
[07:57] <bmartin> chris12349: you could use the dd command, but BE CAREFUL. you should read up on it extensively before trying
[07:57] <gues1> Hi, I have a wireless card for my laptop, but I get these messages when I do dmesg: "acx: got IV_ICV_Failure (crypto) IRQ(s)"
[07:57] <cyberphaz> anyone have any experience with accessing window shares on a vmware windows on the same box?
[07:57] <Flannel> ramp1: well, I may have the terminology wrong, but you want to use your partition you just made, and you want to use it for '/' ('root')
[07:57] <j0nas`> Wips: if youre having trouble, you might want to try a program called GMount
[07:57] <JFr3ak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, but when i want to see a movie, Totem sya that there is no plugin to manage the movie
[07:58] <jmchaffie> This all works locally... I just can't seem to get music to stream OUT of my local network. lol
[07:58] <Wips> j0nas`: K. that works. but I need mount to think it's a dvd. so that I can watch the movie from a dvd-player?
[07:58] <chris12349> bmartin: thanks!
[07:58] <velko> mikubuntu, if you are more comfortable with synaptic you can install these packages trough synaptic also
[07:58] <ramp1> flannel : yes but i never made any partion using ubuntu..i alread have 4 partion using windows xp when i installed
[07:58] <JFr3ak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, the error message is in spanish then i'm just trasleting to english...
[07:58] <creatoun__> Wips: no.  it's automatic when you play a DVD through the player.  no need to mount.
[07:58] <Flannel> Yulquen: Why don't you just use something like ssh and tunnel X? so you can login with multiple users and stuff.  Anyway, if you go to System  > Administration > Login screen setup (or something like that), there'll be options for automatic login
[07:58] <sp3000> ramp1: so delete the correct partition, and then create a swap partition and a root partition in that space
[07:58] <velko> mikubuntu, you don't have to do it on the command line. it's just easier for me to direct you this way
[07:58] <JFr3ak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, can you help me?
[07:59] <Wips> creatoun__: It's not a dvd. It's an image. An .iso file
[07:59] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> jfr3ak: the way fixed that is go to add and remove and install VLC... and it will install what you need
[07:59] <Flannel> ramp1: Right, At the last screen (the format partition screen), I told you to delete one of those partitions (whichever you were going ot use for linux) and then make a new partition (as ext3) in the space you freed up
[07:59] <ramp1> flannel/sp3000 :  how do u do that ?/
[07:59] <gues1> Hi, I have a wireless card for my laptop, but I get these messages when I do dmesg: "acx: got IV_ICV_Failure (crypto) IRQ(s)"
[07:59] <Mind-bOgglEd> any one advise on getting ubuntu 5.1 installed on sata hdd
[07:59] <umop-apsidn> Wips: i think i understand what you're wanting to do
[07:59] <creatoun__> Wips: you might need an app to mount the .iso then you can play it.  i don't know what app is used to mount .isos though.
[08:00] <Flannel> Mind-bOgglEd: Upgrade to a newer version.  5.10 is no longer supported
[08:00] <sp3000> ramp1: I can't see your partitions that well from here, even if I squint :|
[08:00] <j0nas`> Wips: you can't mount it as a 'type' of disk.  it's mounted based on the filesystem you specified, in this case iso9660.  you should be able to play it through your dvd player though as is, provided you have the proper codecs installed
[08:00] <Wips> umop-apsidn: mhm.. I have a movie in a .iso file, and I want to play it off.. I am not able to burn it since my dvdburner is not working.
[08:00] <umop-apsidn> Wips: i, too, am interested in mounting an iso in a virtual disk. when i used windows, i used DAEMONTools... is there an equivalent for linux? i would assume there must be
[08:00] <creatoun__> Wips: also, the alternate route is to burn the .iso.
[08:00] <mkononi> hi there, whats the typical prtition size for an ubuntu installation?
[08:00] <Mind-bOgglEd> a
[08:00] <JFr3ak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, the vlc plugins ??
[08:00] <ramp1> can i send u the screen shots?
[08:00] <creatoun__> Wips: freshmeat.net
[08:00] <Wips> creatoun__: I would if I could.. but my dvdburner is not working
[08:00] <ramp1> sp: y want to make sure i do it correctly
[08:01] <JFr3ak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, the vlc is a app to see movies right ??
[08:01] <sp3000> ramp1: if you can post screenshots somewhere and link here, that could help someone figure it out
[08:01] <gues1> Hi, I have a wireless card for my laptop, but I get these messages when I do dmesg: "acx: got IV_ICV_Failure (crypto) IRQ(s)"
[08:01] <Wips> j0nas`: hm.. k. And which dvd player do you recommend? havent played any dvds in ubuntu yet tbh..
[08:01] <ramp1> sp3000: i will do that
[08:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> jfr3ak: when you mark VLC it will automatically  get what you need to play dvds , mp3's and what have you
[08:01] <Wips> creatoun__: What's that?
[08:01] <velko> mkononi, no. it depends on the software you'll install on the system. with 7gb you'll be on the safe side
[08:01] <j0nas`> Wips: im the wrong person to ask, i've never watched a movie on my computer ;)
[08:02] <JFr3ak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, thks i gonna try right now thks a LOT
[08:02] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> for sure...
[08:02] <umop-apsidn> Wips:  mount -o loop file.iso /path/
[08:02] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> brb cigar time
[08:02] <creatoun__> Wips: they have list of apps there.  but download using synaptic or apt.
[08:02] <mkononi> thanks!  bit bigger than I expected, but Iv got enough space
[08:02] <Mind-bOgglEd> i have not got internet so i cannot upgrade from ubuntu 5.1
[08:02] <Ernz> Does anyone here know how to install the tarball of the latest music applet that works with exaile?
[08:03] <Flannel> Mind-bOgglEd: Where are you right now?  You should download a new CD (get the alternate CD) whereever you do have access
[08:03] <sp3000> hmm. can't you upgrade from cd? don't know if that's easy or what but it should....yeah
[08:03] <stefg> !alternate | Mind-bOgglEd
[08:03] <hat0> hi ubuntu friends - i have installed your fine distribution this morning
[08:03] <ubotu> Mind-bOgglEd: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[08:03] <Flannel> sp3000: if he's doing a fresh install, he might as well install something newer
[08:03] <sp3000> Flannel: even easier! :)
[08:03] <SmartUnix> Ubuntu use BSD-style init or System V style?
[08:03] <Mind-bOgglEd> !alternate
[08:03] <Flannel> !upstart | SmartUnix
[08:03] <ubotu> SmartUnix: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[08:04] <velko> mkononi, my full blown install is 3,5gb. but i know people which install a lot more sutff than i do
[08:04] <imachine> helo
[08:04] <imachine> how I change language pleasE ?
[08:04] <imachine> anyone?
[08:05] <imachine> in X/Ubuntu
[08:05] <craigbass1976> The new edgy updates just hosed my wireless card setup.  How do I revert to the way things were before the update I did this morning?
[08:05] <stapel> Hi I have a wireless card for my laptop, but its not working with Network Manager. I get these messages when I do dmesg: "acx: got IV_ICV_Failure (crypto) IRQ(s)"
[08:05] <Fabiano__> tenho que adicionar uma linha no fstab
[08:05] <stefg> !please
[08:05] <mkononi> velko, thatmuch closer to what I expected.
[08:05] <ubotu> Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[08:05] <Fabiano__> pode ser em qualquer lugar?
[08:05] <stefg> !xubuntu
[08:05] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[08:05] <j0nas`> wow there is a post on digg that says the ubuntu forums grow by 400 users PER DAY
[08:05] <stapel> Please, can anyone help me?
[08:05] <Mind-bOgglEd> you are losing me already if i dont get this simple stuff i not on net and hate winshit
[08:05] <creatoun> stapel: what's the prob?
[08:05] <imachine> stapel, I think it's kind to say please if you ask about something/for something.
[08:05] <craigbass1976> stapel, do a lspci and google for getting that card working in Ubuntu
[08:05] <IceLink> hi there. my monitor shows me "mode not supported" everytime an application starts in fullscreen mode
[08:05] <imachine> stefg, that was for you.
[08:06] <imachine> anyway, I can\t seem to be able to set my langauge, I can install its support and all just not use it.
[08:06] <stapel> Hi I have a wireless card for my laptop, but its not working with Network Manager. I get these messages when I do dmesg: "acx: got IV_ICV_Failure (crypto) IRQ(s)". Can anyone help me please?
[08:06] <j0nas`> imachine: look in the system menu under Language Preferences
[08:06] <umop-apsidn> stapel: looks like you might have a password issue? but i'm not the right person to help with wireless :P
[08:07] <sp3000> imachine: in gdm you select when logging in. xubuntu I don't know, try the suggested channel I guess
[08:07] <ramp1> flannel:http://www.flickr.com/photos/10386291@N08/
[08:07] <ramp1> sp3000:http://www.flickr.com/photos/10386291@N08/
[08:07] <imachine> sp3000, I'm using ubuntu not xubuntu
[08:07] <j0nas`> er language support rather
[08:07] <ramp1> sp3000: hope now someone can help
[08:07] <imachine> I never said I was.
[08:07] <creatoun> stapel: you might need to apt the drivers for that.
[08:07] <sp3000> imachine: X/Ubuntu sounded like xubuntu to at least two of us :)
[08:07] <ramp1> sp3000 i have been on live cd and doing all this ubuntu is already exciting to me!!!
[08:07] <hat0> i have but one question - is there any difference at all between using add/remove packages and the synaptic package manager?
[08:07] <Mind-bOgglEd> oh you mean start my winshit xp and use the live cd instead.
[08:08] <imachine> sp3000, X=xorg, /=runningon/with, ubuntu=well. you know the rest.,
[08:08] <sp3000> imachine: but, yeah, should be in the menus when logging in
[08:08] <imachine> yeah it is, sorta.
[08:08] <imachine> hmmm\
[08:08] <imachine> hang on ;] 
[08:08] <imachine> that's a good idea actually ;P
[08:08] <ramp1> sp3000: did u see the screenshots?
[08:08] <imachine> I thought I'd set it in the language support thing
[08:08] <jsj> Any music fans know of software or a website that will notify you of new releases by your favorite artists?
[08:08] <stapel> creatoun: I don't think the drivers is the issue, because I got it working via the commandline once
[08:08] <imachine> but that was a fail ;] 
[08:08] <imachine> brb
[08:08] <craigbass1976> So how do I roll back the updates I just did, or is it even possible?
[08:09] <creatoun> stapel: try running the command again.
[08:09] <sp3000> ramp1: yeah
[08:09] <IceLink> no idea with fullscreen not supported?
[08:09] <craigbass1976> I did not have the wireless card as an option to configure in the network manager before, and now I do, so something screwed up
[08:09] <ramp1> ok now i want to install in sp6
[08:09] <umop-apsidn> stapel: like i said, since your error message mentions crypto, it might be something to do with your password/key... are you using WEP?
[08:10] <ramp1> sp3000:/sda6
[08:10] <sp3000> ramp1: so do you know which sdaX is which X: in windows?
[08:10] <stapel> creatoun: But, I don't want to go to the commandline everytime I need wireless...
[08:10] <mkononi> /leave
[08:10] <creatoun> stapel: create a shortcut.
[08:10] <Wips> Nice, it works now.. You were right j0nas`. Didnt have to be a disc. just had to give VLC media player another path. Works great with the menu, subtitles.. everything :) Thanks alot. Gonna watch it now
[08:11] <ramp1> yes its in sda1
[08:11] <stapel> umop-apsidn: Yes, I'm using WEP
[08:11] <j0nas`> cool... enjoy :)
[08:11] <gaby_> hi all
[08:12] <ramp1> sp3000: and i need to install ubuntu in sda6
[08:12] <sp3000> ramp1: as you have three almost the same size so it doesn't tell me for sure ... /probably/ cdef are 1567 in that order, but...
[08:12] <Mind-bOgglEd> hi
[08:12] <gaby_> sorry but i nee a litle support with ubuntu
[08:12] <creatoun> wtf is up with sda6?
[08:12] <sp3000> ramp1: just making sure -- how do you know 6 is E?
[08:12] <umop-apsidn> stapel: i would suspect something in your encryption settings, then. but again, i'm not the best person to help you :P
[08:12] <ramp1> sp3000: i know from free space
[08:12] <sp3000> ramp1: ok, good
[08:12] <gaby_> i have to disable acpi on my toshiba laptop to have sound but if i have disabled it i did not have network (e1000 card)
[08:12] <ramp1> sp3000: since i completely erased everything from there
[08:13] <whonicca> anyone here use oidentd?
[08:13] <stapel> umop-apsidn: Which is better to use WEP open or WEP shared? Or perhaps WPA?
[08:13] <creatoun> does ubuntu detect widescreen settings?
[08:13] <Krisser50> hey
[08:13] <gaby_> wpa @stapel
[08:13] <JFr3ak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, thks with VLC works fine, thks again
[08:13] <Krisser50> can anyone help me?
[08:13] <gaby_> it takes seconds to crack wep
[08:13] <sp3000> ramp1: and of course you have backups and things of everything so you can recover windows and your data when I instruct you to accidentally destroy everything :)
[08:13] <whonicca> anyone familiar with identd?
[08:14] <j0nas`> creatoun: yup, settings for most monitors are autodetected :)
[08:14] <creatoun> cool.
[08:14] <ramp1> sp3000: lol  i have backups of everything ..but will it crash :)
[08:14] <j0nas`> even most old monitors work afaik
[08:14] <sp3000> ramp1: so you'd select sda6 in prepare partitions and delete it
[08:14] <imachine> orait, it should be started from gdm, cheers,
[08:14] <imachine> byes!; ] 
[08:14] <sp3000> ramp1: presumably delete is one of the unlabeled buttons on the toolbar
[08:14] <akos_> hello! Can anyone recommand any good music players for linux, that would be more or less like winamp, but have good integration with gnome? (i find rhythmbox pretty nice, but I don't know how to put all my songs to the download queue and then make it play songs randomly)
[08:14] <ramp1> sp3000: but there is no delete option?
[08:15] <whonicca> can someone tell me whats wrong with the following configuration? http://pastebin.com/m6a400c31
[08:15] <stapel> anybody else using WPA for wireless security with Network Manager?
[08:15] <sp3000> ramp1: I'll guess it's the, uh, circle with stroke, no parking sign button
[08:15] <Pici> akos_: Exaile(more itunes/amarok like), beep-media-player is very similar to winamp, as is xmms.
[08:15] <Flannel> ramp1, sp3000, just click 'reformat', that'll delete and should allow you to pick a new FS
[08:15] <icenate001> hi i just downloaded tremulous how do i install it .... the file is "Tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run" it is located on my desktop
[08:15] <j0nas`> akos_: xmms and beep are winamp clones, but amarok is better IMHO... definitely worth a try at least
[08:16] <sp3000> Flannel: the instructions sound like it'll demand a swap part?
[08:16] <Flannel> ramp1, sp3000, oh wait, I'm sorry.  You do need to delete (it's the red circle/X thing)
[08:16] <sp3000> Flannel: I don't know if it does but if it does you'd have to delete to create two, not just reformat
[08:16] <akos_> j0nas`, can you make it play randomly? (amarok isn't a kde app?)
[08:16] <Flannel> No, Don't believe it checks for swap partition, he can always create a swap file later
[08:16] <akos_> Pici, ok, ill check it out,thanks
[08:16] <ramp1> flannel: so it will format sda6 and nothing else.. right:)
[08:17] <Kjellviz> Jack_Sparrow: hi, still wanna know what went wrong when i installed kubuntu-desktop ? =P
[08:17] <Pici> akos_: Yes, all of them have shuffling capability iirc.
[08:17] <Flannel> ramp1: you'll need to delete it and recreate it as ext3 though
[08:17] <akos_> Pici, iirc?
[08:17] <sp3000> ramp1: so you'll get another "unallocated" row
[08:17] <j0nas`> akos_: amarok is technically a kde app, however you can run most kde apps in gnome, xfce, X, whatever, provided the right libraries are installed (and apt will take care of that for you)
[08:17] <Pici> akos_: If I Recall Correctly
[08:17] <akos_> m0
[08:17] <Krisser50> can anyone help me with pureftp?
[08:17] <j0nas`> amarok can definitely randomize your playlist, among many many other things :)
[08:17] <stapel> Should I use WPA or WPA2?
[08:17] <akos_> j0nas`, yeah, i know that, but it just doesn't integrate as good as a native gnome app
[08:18] <umop-apsidn> stapel: the encryption method you use is a matter of personal preference, i think. but you have to connect to it with the same method, so there may be a technical reason for choosing one over the other
[08:18] <sp3000> ramp1: then you can select that and hit the "New" button to create a swap partition of, say, a gigabyte, and then a root partition in the remaining unallocated space
[08:18] <Kjellviz> j0nas`: dunno if its due to installing via adept, but amarok sure doesent work on my ubuntu install ><
[08:18] <j0nas`> true, however, it is worth it IMHO since it is such a good application
[08:18] <akos_> Pici, j0nas` thanks
[08:18] <icenate001> hi i just downloaded tremulous how do i install it .... the file is "Tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run" it is located on my desktop
[08:18] <ramp1> sp3000: the red circle crossed out is not highlighted so i cannot delete it
[08:18] <akos_> damn, exaile website is down
[08:19] <sp3000> ramp1: when the sda6 row is selected?
[08:19] <j0nas`> Kjellviz, likely... you may want to look up the medibuntu repository and install it from there via apt
[08:19] <ramp1> sp3000: yes
[08:19] <sp3000> ramp1: oh, there's the lock icon
[08:19] <sp3000> ramp1: means it's mounted at the moment
[08:19] <sp3000> ramp1: right click on it, unmount
[08:19] <Kjellviz> j0nas`: i try to stay with the standard repos as far as i can
[08:19] <cyberphaz> gah samba pisses me off
[08:20] <ramp1> sp3000: i get only deactivate option
[08:20] <Flannel> icenate001: tremulous is in the repositories, in multiverse
[08:20] <ramp1> sp3000: unmount is inactive
[08:20] <abhi> my ubuntu takes 50 sec to boot. can I decrease the boot time?
[08:20] <Kjellviz> lol
[08:21] <poppey> 50 sec ?
[08:21] <sp3000> ramp1: hrm, don't know what that is
[08:21] <mikubuntu> velko: last output says: Setting up xaralx (0.7r1692-2) ...
[08:21] <mikubuntu> Setting up xaralx-examples (0.7r1692-2) ...
[08:21] <mikubuntu> Setting up xaralx-svg (0.7r1692-2) ...
[08:21] <mikubuntu> mikubuntu@ubuntu:~$  DOES that mean it's complete?  what do i do next?  thanx for all your help...
[08:21] <abhi> yah
[08:21] <sp3000> abhi: can you suspend?
[08:21] <Kjellviz> abhi: yes, buy a flash harddrive for $400
[08:21] <Kjellviz> =P
[08:21] <ramp1> sp3000: probably because its locked i see locked icon
[08:21] <ramp1> sp3000: i can deactivate ..
[08:21] <abhi> what?
[08:22] <ramp1> sp3000: i haven't done should i try that?
[08:22] <zeldafan500> who has msn?
[08:22] <sp3000> ramp1: unmounting removes the lock and allows delete, here :) I don't know what deactivate is, if you also have unmount (albeit dimmed)
[08:22] <Kjellviz> abhi: i was kidding, since i think 50 sec is fast
[08:22] <ramp1> sp3000: but deactivate won't unmount  i guess as u said
[08:22] <jafnoob> even though I have feisty-commercial activated, I can't find/install realplayer, any ideas how to do this?
[08:23] <mrfr0g> Hopefully someone can help me, I am having an issue playing DVDs, I keep getting a segmentation fault, core dumped message. I followed all the info at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#multimedia, and nothing seems to help...
[08:23] <abhi> Kjellviz, : what is your boot time of ubuntu?
[08:23] <ramp1> sp3000: unmount is dimmed
[08:23] <Mind-bOgglEd> bi and thanks for the answerS ILL be back(probably)
[08:23] <icenate001> flannel: i am new whats that mean hahaha
[08:23] <Kjellviz> abhi: no idea, never clocked it
[08:23] <Flannel> !multiverse
[08:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:23] <Kjellviz> abhi: i just turn it on and use it when its ready ><
[08:23] <Flannel> icenate001: enable multiverse, and then you'll have trem-- in your repositories
[08:23] <abhi> Kjellviz, : debian just takes 30secs to boot.....
[08:24] <DragoonMaster> bonsoir
[08:24] <ramp1> sp3000: only new and deactivate are bright other options are dim
[08:24] <icenate001> how do i enable haha..i just started using linux
[08:24] <DragoonMaster> j'ai install une premiere fois phpmyadmin sur une debian, via ssh, et j'aimerais savoir comment le supprimer totalement, c'est a dire, supprimer la configuration que j'ai du faire la toute premiere fois (choix du mot de pass, etc)
[08:24] <Kjellviz> abhi: oki, vista takes 3 mins ^^  (im just guessing, but its far slower than ubuntu anyways ^^)
[08:24] <j0nas`> Kjellviz, why
[08:24] <DragoonMaster> Pouriez -vous m'indiquer la marche a suivr e?
[08:24] <DragoonMaster> car apt-get remove ne semble pas bien faire son boulot (ni apt-get clean)
[08:25] <Kjellviz> j0nas`: why what ?
[08:25] <Jordan_U> !fr | DragoonMaster
[08:25] <DragoonMaster> omg
[08:25] <ramp1> sp3000: any idea?
[08:25] <DragoonMaster> sorry
[08:25] <j0nas`> why stick with the standard repositories
[08:25] <DragoonMaster> ubuntu-fr :D
[08:25] <sp3000> ramp1: sure you have the sda6 row selected?
[08:25] <ubotu> DragoonMaster: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:25] <ramp1> sp3000: i double checked
[08:25] <j0nas`> are you scared? hehe
[08:25] <sp3000> ramp1: it sounds weird that "New" would be enabled on an existing partition
[08:25] <Kjellviz> j0nas`: less funky repos means less funky problems
[08:25] <sp3000> hm.
[08:25] <Kjellviz> =)
[08:25] <sp3000> mo repos mo problems eh
[08:26] <ramp1> sp3000 : thats what it is ...i can't help
[08:26] <alecw1> Hi, I have a dell laptop currentely at "1280x800", but I want a larger resolution. The option isn't available in the "Resolution Preferences" in the admin panel, how do I change the resolution? I'm not sure what I want, I just want more space.
[08:26] <Flannel> icenate001: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:26] <Narcotic> hey
[08:26] <j0nas`> If you say so... i have lots of 3rd party repos enabled and my system works great :)
[08:26] <alecw1> !resolution
[08:26] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:26] <Kjellviz> j0nas`: well maybe you're a long time linux user ?
[08:26] <Kjellviz> =P
[08:26] <abhi> Kjellviz, : do't compare vista and ubuntu .. compare ubuntu and xp ( 20sec booot time)....
[08:26] <alecw1> Can anyone help?
[08:27] <Jordan_U> alecw1, What GPU?
[08:27] <ramp1> sp3000: do i really need to unmount and format?
[08:27] <Narcotic> i download minimal install, now he is downloading packages. Is possible to use install cd instead internet to get the packages ?
[08:27] <sp3000> ramp1: so afaiui deactivate is something you'd see on a swap partition
[08:27] <whonicca> can someone help me with identd please?
[08:27] <alecw1> Jordan_U, I don't know, how do I find out?
[08:27] <sp3000> ramp1: yeah can't install ubuntu on windows filesystems
[08:27] <Kjellviz> abhi: why not? ubuntu has more security, and more graphical eyecandy than vista, so why not compare them ? (its those 2 i use anyways)
[08:27] <Don> I get a core dump error when trying to run Synaptic fron the terminal....and it won't run from System>Admin>Synaptic....in terminal I get core dumped error....Is there a fix, or do I reinstall?
[08:27] <m11> ramp1 ; wubi
[08:27] <sp3000> ramp1: um, try restarting the installer or something silly like that?
[08:28] <ramp1> sp3000: can i go to next screen and select /sda6  for the new installation??
[08:28] <Jordan_U> alecw1, lspci
[08:28] <zeldafan500> who has msn?
[08:28] <alecw1> Jordan_U, ok, what do you want in the output?
[08:28] <ramp1> sp3000: or it has to be formatted before preparing mount points
[08:28] <Jordan_U> alecw1, All I need to know is the brand though, ATI / Nvidia / intel
[08:29] <sp3000> ramp1: doesn't look like it by the "prepare mount points" screenshot
[08:29] <alecw1> Looks like Intel.
[08:29] <alecw1> yes, intel.
[08:29] <m11> does KDE kiosk tool work in ubuntu ?
[08:29] <ramp1> sp3000: are u sure about that?
[08:30] <alecw1> Jordan_U, it's Intel. (Just repeating because it might not have alerted you, I didn't include my name in the previous post.)
[08:30] <ramp1> sp3000: since it says i need to chose one partion for root system and one for swap spae
[08:30] <abhi> Kjellviz, : I agree, ubuntu is much much more secure than xp but not more than vista, because vista has atmost 10 patches and ubuntu have 80 patches when both are released.
[08:30] <sp3000> ramp1: I doubt you want to spend 20GB on swap
[08:30] <Kjellviz> vista being secure is a illusion
[08:30] <Jordan_U> alecw1, Then try using the intel driver as explained on the fix resolution page
[08:30] <m11> lol abhi
[08:30] <preaction> abhi, that is not a measure of security.
[08:30] <Jordan_U> !fixres > alecw1
[08:30] <alecw1> abhi, that's illogical reasoning... Ubuntu is much more secure.
[08:30] <ramp1> sp3000: so my guess is in the before screen i should chose E : new pation
[08:31] <sp3000> ramp1: also I'm assuming the other partitions have useful data you'd prefer to keep ;)
[08:31] <astro76> abhi, vista patches only the os, ubuntu updates 10000 software packages too
[08:31] <ramp1> or rather sda6
[08:31] <Kjellviz> it has higher security vs stupid users but thats about it ><
[08:31] <abhi> I am not saying this , it is being told by osnews.com
[08:31] <ramp1> and make 2 partion there
[08:31] <azslande> I have a laptop with a PCMCIA wireless card, and I am having the most difficult time getting it to work. Can anyone help me at all?
[08:31] <alecw1> Jordan_U, I looked at it, and I don 't see where to modify. It looks like something in the xorg.conf file. I'm sort of new to ubuntu, so can you guide me through it?
[08:31] <ramp1> sp3000: divide sda6 into 1GB and 19GB
[08:31] <Jordan_U> azslande, What chipset?
[08:32] <ramp1> sp3000 so that i don't use the 20gb   swap space
[08:32] <askand> Im trying to run gta2 with latest cedega..I get to the opening animation but it shuts down after that..help?
[08:32] <sp3000> ramp1: well the two parts would probably be named sda6 and sda8 then
[08:32] <Kjellviz> abhi: and the fact that microsoft aint capable of patchiing their OS does NOT mean its more secure
[08:32] <alecw1> Rightly said, Kjellviz.
[08:32] <ramp1> sp3000: do u think i should do that?
[08:32] <Thunderhit> I want to change the resolution, but the max I can select is 1024x768 but my monitors native res. is 1280x1024 (19" TFT) where can I add or change to that resolution? I have installed the nvidia driver so that shouldnt be the problem
[08:32] <abhi> may be
[08:32] <azslande> Jordan_U: Its a Linksys WPC54GS.... lspci outputs Broadcom BCM4318
[08:32] <Jordan_U> alecw1, Sure, first install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[08:32] <Kjellviz> abhi: i work as a pc tech, and i know of several unpatched bugs in windwos i face almost on a daily basis when customers call me
[08:33] <sp3000> ramp1: what's the, uh, before screen?
[08:33] <Jordan_U> azslande, Install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[08:33] <Kjellviz> in vista*
[08:33] <ramp1> sp3000: i get create new partion (
[08:33] <azslande> Jordan_U: Tried, but I dont think I have the right Repos for it
[08:33] <sp3000> ramp1: lemme look for that "deactivate" thing for a moment
[08:33] <ramp1> sp3000: create as logical partion
[08:33] <alecw1> Jordan_U, thanks. It said "xserver-xorg-video-intel is already the newest version." What now?
[08:34] <ramp1> sp3000:Make sure to allocate space for a root partition ("/"), with a minimum size of 2 GB, and a swap partition of at least 256 MB.
[08:34] <alecw1> azlande, what laptop do you have?
[08:34] <ramp1> sp3000 : on the bottom screen
[08:34] <Jordan_U> alecw1, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" and choose intel when asked the driver, you will need to know the native resolution of your monitor though
[08:34] <azslande> alecw1: Inspiron 2200
[08:34] <ramp1> sp3000: i will send some more screen shots
[08:34] <clouder> Thunderhit: you probably have to adjust your refresh rates in xorg.conf and add the resolution 1280x1024
[08:34] <azslande> without wireless built in
[08:34] <Flannel> ramp1: how much RAM do you have?
[08:35] <ramp1> flannel: 1GB
[08:35] <bluefox83> quick...whats the terminal command for checking hard drive space?
[08:35] <Kjellviz> anyways, im very very eager to make the switch to KDE desktop, but ive had some issues with mounting my windows partition, getting my multimedia keyboard to work and sound issues with WoW in Wine when running Kubuntu, all of which are running fine in Ubuntu
[08:35] <Jordan_U> azslande, I think it is in universe
[08:35] <alecw1> I'm not sure of my native resolution.... I just know it's running at 1280x800 now, and I want more space. Can't I just calculate a bigger space?
[08:35] <j0nas`> bluefox83: df -h
[08:35] <alecw1> I have a Dell Latitude D630
[08:35] <bluefox83> LOL
[08:35] <bluefox83> i typed dh -f in terminal :D
[08:35] <sp3000> Flannel: heh yeah, some update once broke swap mounting for me, didn't notice a thing :D
[08:35] <azslande> Jordan_U: I think so too, I saw something about it on a page, just couldn't figure out how to add it via terminal
[08:35] <alecw1> alecw1, what's your wireless card?
[08:35] <ramp1> flannel: did u have a look at the screenshots?
[08:35] <Kjellviz> would you recommend me to install kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu install, or install kubuntu as a dual boot to tinker on its own ?
[08:35] <sp3000> Flannel: though linking libxul will teach you  :O
[08:36] <j0nas`> maybe you're dyslexic? :)
[08:36] <alecw1> azslande, I mean, what's your wireless card?
[08:36] <Flannel> ramp1: You'll probably be fine without swap.  And if you find you need it, you can always add it in later.
[08:36] <Jordan_U> !universe | azslande
[08:36] <ubotu> azslande: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:36] <azslande> alecw1: lol, its a WPC54GS
[08:36] <azslande>  Jordan_U: Thanks
[08:36] <Kjellviz> alecw1: go to support.dell.com and enter your service tag there
[08:36] <Madsy> !EasySource
[08:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:36] <Kjellviz> alecw1: there you may find all technical info on your system
[08:37] <Jordan_U> azslande, np
[08:37] <alecw1> ok, one sec.  and Jordan_U, I'm at that screen right now, it's asking me which rez I awnt.
[08:37] <Kjellviz> alecw1: (you may have to go to your countrys dell support site to find your exact system)
[08:37] <sp3000> Flannel: does the "reformat" option let you change the fs type though?
[08:38] <Kjellviz> alecw1: like support.dell.se if your from sweden
[08:38] <alecw1> 1440  by 900, Jordan>U
[08:38] <alecw1> Jordan_U*
[08:38] <ramp1> sp3000 : http://www.flickr.com/photos/10386291@N08/
[08:38] <Jordan_U> alecw1, I am not sure if this will work but try *un* selecting the resolutions that are selected so nothing is selected
[08:38] <ramp1> flannel:http://www.flickr.com/photos/10386291@N08/
[08:38] <ramp1> sp3000/flannel: hope that helps
[08:38] <alecw1> are you sure, Jordan_U?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> alecw1, If you know 1440x900 is your native res then mark that
[08:39] <Kjellviz> Jordan_U: i dont think it is
[08:39] <alecw1> how do I check it? Spacebar?
[08:39] <Kjellviz> Jordan_U: but i think its higher, and that 1440*900 will look ok
[08:39] <ramp1> sp3000: btw is it possible to access the windows file from linux?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> alecw1, No :)
[08:39] <Lost487Dazed> can anyone answer a vmware question?
[08:40] <Jordan_U> alecw1, Yes
[08:40] <j0nas`> Lost487Dazed, sure
[08:40] <ramp1> sp3000: i heard its little tricky but once done correctly its cakewalk
[08:40] <alecw1> ok Jordan_U, it's done. :) Do I restart X?
[08:40] <Jordan_U> !ntfs3g | ramp1
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <Jordan_U> alecw1, yes
[08:40] <ramp1> sp3000/flannel: i am waiting on u guys
[08:40] <Lost487Dazed> running vmware server on ubuntu 7.0.4 when I boot up a vm, with a cd in the drive.. vmware tells me there is no bootable media
[08:40] <Lost487Dazed> any ideas?
[08:40] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | ramp1
[08:40] <ubotu> ramp1: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:40] <sp3000> ramp1: for ntfs, read-only by default
[08:41] <j0nas`> Lost487Dazed, click the Legacy emulation checkbox, and try again
[08:41] <Lost487Dazed> already tried that
[08:41] <clouder> Is it normal for my computer to take 10-15 minutes to be visible on the network after restarting samba?  If I reboot, the computer is visible immediately however.
[08:41] <sp3000> ramp1: haven't tried that ntfs-3g writing support but apparently people think it works or something :)
[08:41] <Flannel> ramp1: What about?
[08:41] <ramp1> sp3000: let me install ubuntu first !!!:)
[08:41] <j0nas`> perhaps your disk is in the wrong drive?
[08:41] <Lost487Dazed> tried using /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom and auto detect as well
[08:41] <ramp1> flannel : did u check the screenshots
[08:42] <j0nas`> hmm, it should work... maybe you could try it with an iso instead?
[08:42] <alecw1> Jordan_U, I just restarted X, and the option isn't listed in Screen Rez. :(
[08:42] <Lost487Dazed> hadn't thought of that...
[08:42] <ramp1> flannel: i want to install ubuntu on sda6 and my xp is on sda1
[08:42] <sp3000> ramp1: so I'm surprised it gives you the "new" option like that on the sda6 row
[08:42] <ramp1> sp3000: so what should i do?.
[08:42] <Dorman> Well, I'll be, I actually managed to make this IRC channel program work! oO
[08:43] <Flannel> ramp1: Right, whats your question?  Don't worry about the swap space.  Just install to that partition
[08:43] <alecw1> Ok, Jordan_U, I'm back at the configure screen for xorg, and I'm looking at the screen rez (1440x900) is not checked. I did save it though....
[08:43] <Lost487Dazed> roflmao.. ok.. figured out
[08:43] <j0nas`> what happened?
[08:43] <Lost487Dazed> it wasn't the wrong drive per say...
[08:43] <ramp1> sp3000: so do i reformat it after checking it
[08:43] <sp3000> ramp1: so something like, set free space preceding 0, new size 1000, create as swap
[08:43] <Kjellviz> alecw1: http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/latit_d630?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04
[08:43] <Lost487Dazed> wasnt' connected... DOH
[08:43] <j0nas`> hehe
[08:43] <j0nas`> that'll do it!
[08:43] <Lost487Dazed> everytime... funny how it's the stupid things that always hang me up...
[08:43] <ramp1> flannel: so do i reformat too which is next screen option
[08:43] <Jordan_U> alecw1, Try dpkg-reconfigure again but mark 1440x900 this time, or try selecting all of the resolutions instead of none :)
[08:44] <Kjellviz> alecw1: your native resolution is either 1280*800 or 1440*900
[08:44] <swimme1> why do i always have to do sudo modprobe ndswrapper before i can use the internet? i am kinda new at this
[08:44] <sp3000> ramp1: or, um, create as logical, filesystem swap rather, probably
[08:44] <T-Connect> It funny I get out of range over 1280x1024.
[08:44] <Kjellviz> alecw1: depending on what screen you have in your D630
[08:44] <alecw1> I think I'll take 1440x900
[08:44] <alecw1> Kjellviz
[08:44] <T-Connect> Ubuntu doesn't like over 1280x1024 on my LCD screen.
[08:44] <alecw1> But I'm "checking" the box, and then I restarted X, and it looks like it didnt' save it!
[08:44] <ramp1> sp3000: so ure saying i select around 1000mb and select file system is linux-swap
[08:45] <Kjellviz> alecw1: well, if its a native 1280*800 screen then you will have problems viewing anytjhing
[08:45] <alecw1> T-connect, what laptop do you have?
[08:45] <sp3000> ramp1: right. what does the list look like after that?
[08:45] <T-Connect> Oh it a pc computer.
[08:45] <Kjellviz> alecw1: and in worst case you may damage the LCD
[08:45] <ramp1> sp3000: let me do it
[08:45] <swimme1> can anyone help me?
[08:45] <alecw1> I'm at 1280x80, but I want bigger space...
[08:45] <alecw1> 800*
[08:45] <alecw1> really?
[08:45] <alecw1> wow
[08:46] <swimme1> helllooooooooooooo?
[08:46] <T-Connect> My screen only go for 1280x1024 anyway. On XP it is different,
[08:46] <Kjellviz> alecw1: just check out what screen you've got first
[08:46] <alecw1> Ok, Kjellviz, I'll be back in a sec
[08:47] <Jordan_U> !hi | swimme1
[08:47] <ubotu> swimme1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:47] <swimme1> hi
[08:47] <swimme1> did you see my question?
[08:47] <alecw1> :P
[08:47] <alecw1> How do I see what my screen can handle?
[08:48] <alecw1> I just got the D630 a few days ago
[08:48] <ramp1> sp3000: weird even though i choose 512mb for swap , i end up getting 19.5GB as swap
[08:48] <Jordan_U> swimme1, Because the guide that you used was probably missing a step :)
[08:48] <Kjellviz> alecw1: WXGA+ (1440 x 900 resolution)	
[08:48] <Kjellviz> WXGA (1280 x 800 resolution)
[08:48] <sp3000> swimme1: I did and I don't know; you probably don't want all the 1000 users here elling you that though ;)
[08:48] <swimme1> huh?
[08:48] <Kjellviz> alecw1: find out if you have a + or not
[08:48] <waqar> hi, my firefox keeps freezing with youtube if i close it or open onother page while its playing a video, i have to force quit it every time, im using feisty, can anybody help
[08:48] <alecw1> ok
[08:48] <Jordan_U> swimme1, What guide did you use for NDISwrapper?
[08:48] <j0nas`> swimmel: add ndiswrapper to your /etc/modules file
[08:49] <j0nas`> swimmel: then you wont have to modprobe every time you boot
[08:49] <swimme1> the install file
[08:49] <ramp1> sp3000:  what is free space preceeding and free space following
[08:49] <swimme1> how?
[08:49] <Jordan_U> waqar, The flash plugin is unstable, not much you can do
[08:49] <Flannel> swimme1: You know ndiswwrapper is in the repositories, right?
[08:49] <swimme1> i didnt work
[08:49] <swimme1> it*
[08:49] <Kjellviz> alecw1: most likely, changing the reso for 10-15 sec will not damage the LCD, but i dunno if ubuntu automatically changes back if you dont click ok like on windows ? (ive always set my reso in xorg.conf)
[08:50] <waqar> Jordan_U:   ok thannks anyway
[08:50] <Jordan_U> Kjellviz, It does
[08:50] <alecw1> Kjellviz, I ave the "WXGA LCD"
[08:50] <sp3000> ramp1: you have a certain blob of space, you can leave unallocated space before and after a partition you crate if it's smaller than the unallocated space available. mostly that's useful if you want to create something else in that space
[08:50] <Kjellviz> Jordan_U: ok thanks =)
[08:50] <sp3000> ramp1: so how's the list look like now?
[08:50] <Kjellviz> alecw1: well then your max reso is 1280*800 im afraid
[08:50] <sp3000> or those spaces as the case may be
[08:50] <swimme1> j0nas`: i'm new to linux, how do i do that?
[08:50] <T-Connect> Flash Player. Go here and click on the green puzzle on the top of screen. http://www.flashgames247.com/
[08:51] <Kjellviz> alecw1: pressing the LCD higher may damage it =\
[08:51] <alecw1> Kjellviz,  are you absolutely sure? :(
[08:51] <T-Connect> Install it.
[08:51] <alecw1> It's not that bad, but I'm used to huge screens.
[08:51] <Jordan_U> alecw1, What makes you think that it is not using the native resolution?
[08:51] <j0nas`> swimme1: at the prompt: sudo gedit /etc/modules
[08:51] <j0nas`> add ndiswrapper to the end of the file, save and close
[08:52] <Kjellviz> alecw1: well 1280*800 on a 14" screen aint to shabby!
[08:52] <j0nas`> next time you boot you wont have to modprobe ndiswrapper :)
[08:52] <alecw1> It IS using the native res
[08:52] <alecw1> I know it is, it looks good
[08:52] <Jordan_U> !gksudo > j0nas`
[08:52] <alecw1> but I want more
[08:52] <ramp1> sp3000: it says busy.. and cannot partion
[08:52] <swimme1> j0nas`: thanks i'll try
[08:52] <j0nas`> gksudo, sudo, whatever
[08:52] <Jordan_U> alecw1, Native rez is as high as it gets
[08:52] <Jordan_U> j0nas`, Read the link
[08:52] <ramp1> sp3000: i am starting again
[08:52] <sp3000> ramp1: from where?
[08:53] <alecw1> Jordan_U, ok, too bad. :(
[08:53] <ramp1> sp3000: when i was creating the linux swap space
[08:53] <mikubuntu_> velko: todavia estas?  how do i command line to install 'the latest flash player'?
[08:53] <bluefox83> can you mount a dvdrom on an nfs share?
[08:54] <j0nas`> Jordan_U: quote: "most of the time it isnt an issue"
[08:54] <beni_> how can i list all files which belong to a specific user?
[08:54] <sp3000> heh, "sawpon", nice typo in gparted
[08:54] <j0nas`> in this case, we're only using gedit
[08:54] <alecw1> One more thing, just random... I'm using Metacity, and I want it so the text on each browser "top" (like, the titlebar) is NOT bolded (it currently is) is this possible?
[08:54] <mikubuntu_> there were just 1,111 users in the room, in case anybody interested.
[08:55] <ramp1> sp3000: it worked now
[08:55] <Filippo_FK> Please italian userhelp me
[08:55] <sp3000> mikubuntu_: the number of the ...uh, binary beast?
[08:55] <ramp1> sp3000: now i get one extra drive on the next screen
[08:55] <Jordan_U> j0nas`, "Just be consistent in suggesting good practice: gksudo and kdesu for graphical applications. sudo for command-line applications."
[08:55] <Kjellviz> sp3000: lol
[08:56] <W_McL> bluefox83, you should be able. you mount the volume into the filesystem, not into another volume
[08:56] <ramp1> sp3000: which is the swap drive ( sda8: 512mb)
[08:56] <mikubuntu_> sp3000: omg, do you THINK??? yipes.
[08:56] <sp3000> ramp1: screenshots of both :)
[08:56] <alecw1> !ftp > alecw1
[08:56] <zinx> can someone point me to ubuntuized proprietary nvidia drivers >= 100.14.09 (i've got a 8600M GT, so i need that new of a version for support), if there are any :/
[08:56] <mikubuntu_> *gulp*
[08:56] <alecw1> !ftpd
[08:56] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[08:56] <Jordan_U> zinx, nvidia-glx-new ?
[08:56] <myusrnm> hey, i'm getting an error when trying to install bitlbee "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6"
[08:56] <zinx> Jordan_U: that's 97xx unless i need to update :/
[08:57] <imachine> hello again ;] 
[08:57] <zinx> (which is entirely possible too)
[08:57] <imachine> I have had some issues with my graphics, nvidia
[08:57] <beni_> hey my server has been hacked, can't anybody tell me how I list all files which are belonging to a specifitc user??
[08:57] <imachine> it has issues.
[08:57] <zinx> Jordan_U: I'm running fiesty - are they in gutsy?
[08:57] <bluefox83> W_McL, well i want to be able to pop a cd or dvd into a drive on the network and have any machine on the network be able to view the contents without needing to do a new mount each time i pop a disk in the drive
[08:57] <mikubuntu_> so ... can anyone telll me how to 'aptget' the 'latest flash player'?
[08:57] <imachine> they're resolved in 9333 or so
[08:57] <madman91> mikubuntu_: 32bit or 64bit ubuntu
[08:57] <ramp1> sp3000:http://www.flickr.com/photos/10386291@N08/
[08:57] <bluefox83> Mikelevel, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[08:58] <madman91> mikubuntu_: sudo aptitude install flashplayer-nonfree
[08:58] <ramp1> sp3000: so now i think i need to chose sda6 and reformat it ?
[08:58] <obf213> i want to delete a file on my desktop that i cant see. how do i do that
[08:58] <mikubuntu_> madman91:  oh, gosh, i don't know ... dell latitude 600 laptop
[08:58] <astro76> mikubuntu_, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:58] <obf213> gaim shows this file there. but i cant see it
[08:58] <madman91> obf213: press control H
[08:58] <W_McL> bluefox83, then you have to add the directory where the dvd is mounted to as nfs share. it should work. if no dvd is in it, it will simply be empty
[08:58] <madman91> obf213: while on the desktop
[08:58] <madman91> obf213: and it will show hidden files
[08:58] <tonyT> Hello people
[08:58] <sp3000> ramp1: ehm, swap has a zero size
[08:59] <madman91> mikubuntu_: sudo aptitude install flashplayer-nonfree
[08:59] <obf213> madman91 thanks
[08:59] <mikubuntu_> guys, what means 'nonfree'?
[08:59] <madman91> obf213: sure
[08:59] <sp3000> ramp1: so it would have created that in the tiny allocated space at the end
[08:59] <madman91> mikubuntu_: its not opensoruce
[08:59] <Jordan_> Hi guys, im having serious trouble with ubuntu and nvidia TV-OUT with component cables -- is there a way to use a custom resolution?
[08:59] <astro76> !info flashplayer-nonfree
[08:59] <sp3000> ramp1: unfortunately that's not useful
[08:59] <ubotu> Package flashplayer-nonfree does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:59] <zinx> Jordan_U: just double-checked packages.ubuntu.com - no 100.14.xx for any version :/
[08:59] <alecw1> uh oh. I accidentally deleted a file I really needed, also from the trashcan. :( Is there any way to bring it back?
[08:59] <bluefox83> W_McL, so i add /dev/media0 to the list of things in the nfs share?
[08:59] <ramp1> sp3000: lol i didn't see that anyways flannel was saying with 1GB ram u don't need swap space
[08:59] <astro76> it's flashplugin-nonfree
[08:59] <madman91> mikubuntu_: not open source.. means you cant edit it.. but it is still "free" to download
[08:59] <W_McL> bluefox83, the only problem will be that you probably have to unmount the volumes on all clients if you want to remove the dvd, but i'm not sure if that's true
[08:59] <Jordan_U> zinx, I guess you have to do a manual install :(
[08:59] <mikubuntu_> so have to pay for it?
[08:59] <madman91> no
[08:59] <madman91> mikubuntu_: nope
[08:59] <mikubuntu_> ok, gotcha
[09:00] <obf213> madman, this lead me to ask how these files became hiddne
[09:00] <ramp1> sp3000: is swap space absolutely necessary
[09:00] <bluefox83> W_McL, that would be so much easier of symlinks worked over nfs >.>
[09:00] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu_, Free as in libre rather than free as in gratis
[09:00] <ramp1> ?
[09:00] <zinx> Jordan: if that's the case i'll wait for 100.14.xx to make it to ubuntu - i don't really want to deal with the breakages caused by using the .run :/
[09:00] <sp3000> ramp1: you can usually survive without swap I guess and you can add swpafiles later I suppose. I don't know if the installer agrees with that though :)
[09:00] <madman91> ramp1: i ran ubuntu for several months without a swap
[09:00] <ramp1> sp3000: what exactly a swap space does?
[09:00] <W_McL> bluefox83, no. add /media/dvd0, /media/cdrom0 or whatever it's called on your computer
[09:00] <madman91> ramp1: it is virtual ram
[09:00] <sp3000> ramp1: ram extension on disk
[09:00] <ramp1> madman: ok...
[09:01] <ramp1> like in windows
[09:01] <Flannel> ramp1: if you find you're having problems without swap space, you can add it later.
[09:01] <W_McL> bluefox83, just find out which directory in /media is associated with the dvd drive
[09:01] <umop-apsidn> mikubuntu_: the difference is similar to the difference between free beer, and free speech
[09:01] <madman91> ramp1: yes
[09:01] <obf213> madman91 how files become hidden in the first palce
[09:01] <umop-apsidn> open source = free speech. free download = free beer :)
[09:01] <madman91> obf213: if there is a . in front of them they are hiden
[09:01] <tonyT> Can anybody tell me what package Ubuntu uses for keyboard keybindings? I have a logitech keyboard and some of the multimedia keyboard and a few of the keys are not working. I didn't manually install any package so i assume there is one enabled by default. BTW, this is on Feisty
[09:01] <bluefox83> W_McL, /dev/media0 is where the cdrom is mounted i think...
[09:01] <sp3000> ramp1: so if you overuse memory, instead of murdering a memory hungry program it makes your computer slow as molasses to perpetuate the pain
[09:01] <ramp1> flannel: ok are u sure one can add later without formatting
[09:01] <alecw1> On Macs there is an app called "time machine" or something, where you can retrieve lost files. Can this be done on Ubuntu? I just deleted an important document. :(
[09:01] <madman91> obf213: your home directory is full of them
[09:01] <beni_> hey my server has been hacked, can't anybody tell me how I list all files which are belonging to a specifitc user??
[09:01] <obf213> madman91. yeah this was a java file i made though
[09:01] <beni_> !iptables > beni_
[09:01] <mikubuntu_> ok, i've got it downloading in the terminal (i guess)
[09:02] <obf213> thats why im trying to figure out how i saved it as hidden or w/e
[09:02] <madman91> obf213: if you edit a file in a text editor like gedit .. it usually saves a backup
[09:02] <W_McL> bluefox83, no. in /dev there are the devicefiles, but no mountpoints
[09:02] <obf213> ooo k
[09:02] <madman91> obf213: and its usually hidden
[09:02] <obf213> that is
[09:02] <obf213> thats it*
[09:02] <obf213> thansk
[09:02] <madman91> obf213: no problem
[09:02] <sp3000> ramp1: but, I guess you still need to delete sda6 in order to create the ext3 partition in its place, and apparently it won't let you without unmounting it, and it doesn't let you unmount
[09:02] <madman91> ramp1: when you type someones name .. press tab and it will finish it for you
[09:02] <Kjellviz> i aint got OSS sound on Ubuntu, any idea how to get it running ? (ALSA is working fine)
[09:02] <ramp1> sp3000: ok now i am going to choose  root file system ( /) for sda6 i
[09:02] <sp3000> ramp1: what I'd do is reboot and see if it happens to be nut mounted that time around :\
[09:03] <W_McL> bluefox83, in ubuntu the mountpoints for removeable media are usually created in /media
[09:03] <sp3000> ramp1: well, maybe
[09:03] <ramp1> sp3000: ok i will try that...
[09:03] <sp3000> ramp1: oh, btw
[09:04] <tonyT> anybody?  --->Can anybody tell me what package Ubuntu uses for keyboard keybindings? I have a logitech keyboard and some of the multimedia keyboard and a few of the keys are not working. I didn't manually install any package so i assume there is one enabled by default. BTW, this is on Feisty
[09:04] <ramp1> madman91: it does not happened i tried tab!!
[09:04] <mikubuntu_> couldn't find any packages whose name or description matched 'flashplayer-nonfree' ubuntu says
[09:04] <madman91> ramp1: type in madman and press tab
[09:04] <Flannel> !mediakeys | tonyT
[09:04] <ubotu> tonyT: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[09:04] <ramp1> madman91:
[09:04] <madman91> ramp1: see
[09:04] <sp3000> ramp1: if you choose to go without swap, you can in the partition editor, select from the context menu Format as -> ext3, for sda6 -- sure that'l still require it to not be mounted at the time, but no need to delete and create in that case. though might as well, *shrug*
[09:04] <ramp1> madman91: lol it worked now
[09:04] <madman91> ramp1: and when you type the persons full nick name.. it turns red
[09:04] <alecw1> Is there any way to retrieve a deleted file on Ubuntu (even after trash can delete)
[09:05] <tonyT> Flannel -- not sure what that means
[09:05] <madman91> ramp1: i can see you sent something to me.. very useful
[09:05] <ramp1> madman91: thanks for the tip
[09:05] <ramp1> madman91: what did i send?
[09:05] <madman91> ramp1: no problem, a message
[09:05] <akos_> is there any text-to-speech capability in linux? like $read "Hello there"
[09:05] <akos_> ?
[09:05] <Flannel> tonyT: go to System > PReferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:05] <madman91> ramp1: just a message
[09:05] <D7xk> I enabled output to my tv, and it is an extension off my desktop, but programs often load on the tv screen, I don't want this, how can I make sure programs always load on my lcd screen desktop?
[09:06] <tonyT> ubotu A lot of them are working so i was assuming there is a package that is installed by default. I saw some keytouch files while searching around but wasn't sure if its installed by default
[09:06] <ramp1> sp3000: i am going to restart see u guys later ...thanks for the help
[09:06] <D7xk> I only want the tv for dragging video files over to it
[09:06] <decavolt> Question about mouting NTFS partitions - mine are mounted just fine, and I can read write and delete. I'd like a delete confirmation message when deleting from the NTFS partitions. Right now, it just wacks the file without warning.
[09:06] <ramp1> Flannel: thanks for the help going to restart and see whether ubuntu works!!
[09:07] <umop-apsidn> decavolt: no "send to trash" ?
[09:07] <decavolt> no, that's what's odd
[09:07] <umop-apsidn> hmm
[09:07] <madman91> what?
[09:07] <decavolt> just instant delete, and no trash. Which is scary...
[09:07] <sp3000> decavolt: in what user interface?
[09:07] <madman91> decavolt: gnome?
[09:07] <decavolt> Gnome
[09:08] <sp3000> nautilus?
[09:08] <madman91> decavolt: go to nautilus
[09:08] <decavolt> yep
[09:08] <mikubuntu_> Download done.
[09:08] <mikubuntu_> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[09:08] <mikubuntu_> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[09:08] <mikubuntu_>  Getting this output now, is there something i need to do to complet the install?
[09:08] <madman91> decavolt: edit preferences
[09:08] <tonyT> Flannel: That's the built in settings, right? Does keytouch override them or do they have to be disabled if keytouch is installed
[09:08] <madman91> decavolt: behavior
[09:08] <sp3000> decavolt: sure it's not got a .Trash lurking somewhere?
[09:08] <j0nas`> what is a good p2p program?
[09:08] <madman91> decavolt: trash
[09:08] <umop-apsidn> mikubuntu_: are you running a 64-bit os?
[09:08] <decavolt> madman91, ah, I see it. And I should be setting that for the entire drive/partition, correct?
[09:09] <sp3000> decavolt: the default behavior I get is trash silently, or warn about unrecoverable delete if can't trash
[09:09] <madman91> decavolt: that setting is what will happen to everything you do with nautilus
[09:09] <decavolt> madman91, good, so it's global.
[09:09] <kawika> umop-apsidn: shouldn't it be "umop-apisdn"
[09:09] <mikubuntu_> umop-apsidn: i have dell latitude 600, running a wubi install of ubuntu .. does that help?
[09:09] <madman91> decavolt: well.. if you ever start up konqueror.. then something else might happen :)
[09:09] <madman91> decavolt: konqueror is the nautilus of kde
[09:09] <decavolt> :) true
[09:10] <madman91> decavolt: and commandline.. rm will still delete
[09:10] <kawika> hehe
[09:10] <decavolt> but I've become pretty partial to naut. Some KDE apps spawn konq though, of course
[09:10] <madman91> decavolt: naturally
[09:10] <umop-apisdn> kawika: as a matter of fact, yes. thank you, and good job on being observant ;)
[09:10] <kawika> umop-apisdn: that's awesome btw...
[09:10] <umop-apisdn> kawika: thanks :)
[09:11] <decavolt> yep, cmd line I'm not so worried about. It's when I'm browsing my NTFS partitions during usual work, I don't want to accidentally wipe, forever, my working files.
[09:11] <decavolt> madman91, looking at my naut prefs -> behavior... Ask before emptying trash or deleting files IS checked.
[09:12] <decavolt> madman91, but I'm not getting a prompt. I do when deleting from my linux partitions, just not the NTFS partitions.
[09:12] <Milux> how can i schedule a recorder streaming audio-video?
[09:12] <madman91> decavolt: hm..
[09:12] <MosaSaur> I have a new usb 120 GB usb disk, I want to use it to back up some old win98se and xp computers, then wipe their HD clean and install ubuntu. Question: what FS should I use for the usb backup-disk?
[09:12] <decavolt> madman91, indeed
[09:12] <akos_> is there any text-to-speech capability in linux? like $read "Hello there, this is your computer speaking" ?
[09:12] <madman91> decavolt: do you access your ntfs partitions as a user or as root?
[09:13] <Lunks> how can I access gnome sessions item through failsafe term?
[09:13] <alecw1> Is there ANY WAY to retrieve a deleted file in Ubuntu?
[09:13] <decavolt> madman91, as a user, I don't run as root
[09:13] <rjb> NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
[09:13] <rjb> - what could be causing that error?
[09:13] <madman91> decavolt: .. I'm boggled.. ask again in this chat
[09:13] <Flannel> akos_: there are a few, check out festival
[09:13] <umop-apisdn> alecw1: if you killed it from the trashcan? uhm... well, there's data recovery services, and i would suggest you shut down *NOW* to avoid overwriting the data...
[09:13] <decavolt> madman91, would it help if I pastebin'd my fstab for you?
[09:14] <decavolt> madman91, cool, thanks for trying :)
[09:14] <akos_> Flannel, thx
[09:14] <umop-apisdn> alecw1: other than that... how are you with a hex editor?
[09:14] <madman91> decavolt: i do what little I can
[09:14] <alecw1> umop-apisdn: It's on my desktop, already shut down. Not good at all.
[09:14] <alecw1> Isn't there a program like "Time machien" on the mac?
[09:14] <Jordan_U> alecw1, What did you delete?
[09:14] <decavolt> Question about mouting NTFS partitions - mine are mounted just fine, and I can read write and delete. I'd like a delete confirmation message when deleting from the NTFS partitions. Right now, it just wacks the file without warning.
[09:15] <umop-apisdn> alecw1: how much is/are the file(s) worth to you? i think there's a place in houston, tx that does guaranteed data recovery... 1500USD, tho... *minimum*
[09:15] <alecw1> Just a word document I created for school, on accident. 5+ pages, due on monday.
[09:15] <alecw1> :(
[09:15] <Jordan_U> alecw1, There may be a backup
[09:15] <alecw1> I've checked.
[09:15] <umop-apisdn> aw, dude... that sucks. i feel for you.
[09:16] <Milux>  how can i schedule a recorder streaming audio-video?
[09:16] <alecw1> umop-apisdn: There is no way at all?
[09:16] <madman91> well look at the bright side
[09:16] <Lunks> can someone check which command i can use to open sessions manager on gnome, please? =)
[09:16] <umop-apisdn> alecw1: if it's not in the trash can, then you're pretty much screwed. better start rewriting it...
[09:16] <umop-apisdn> alecw1: the other option i can think of is to use a hex editor to try and find it on the disk
[09:16] <madman91> Lunks: do you mean system-->preferences-->sessions?
[09:16] <umop-apisdn> alecw1: but as for the exact method... unsure.
[09:16] <Lunks> yes, madman91q
[09:16] <Lunks> I have to remove fusion-icon from it
[09:17] <alecw1> umop-apisdn: Arg. That sucks bad.
[09:17] <Lunks> it's hanging ubuntu
[09:17] <riaal> how do I delete a line of text in pico or nano?
[09:17] <umop-apisdn> alecw1: you might see if you can locate a hex editor, and then open the drive with it, then do a search for a text string you know exists in the file
[09:17] <rjb> it's pretty tough to undelete on ext3
[09:17] <madman91> Lunks: i dont know the command but i can find it
[09:17] <Lunks> yes, it's pretty easy if you can access gnome =P
[09:17] <umop-apisdn> you might be able to copy/paste the text back out... you'll prolly lose formatting
[09:17] <Lunks> just edit menu and look for it
[09:17] <alecw1> there is no GUI easy way? I mean, it was literally deleted minutes ago
[09:17] <Jordan_U> Lunks, gnome-session-properties
[09:17] <Palimpsest> hmm, anybody know, when i can find (download) women voice, for use in system sound? something like permission denied etc?
[09:17] <Lunks> thanks a lot!@
[09:17] <umop-apisdn> and if it's not a straight .txt, you may not be able to find anything, anyway... ever opened a word document in notepad?
[09:17] <rjb> on ext2 it was no big deal, there were scripts to undelete files
[09:18] <Lunks> hopefully i'll be back soon =)
[09:18] <alecw1> on gedit, yes. By word, I meant open office
[09:18] <alecw1> saved as .doc
[09:18] <umop-apisdn> alecw1: once you kill it from the trash can, i don't know of an "easy" way to get it back
[09:18] <umop-apisdn> .doc files typically aren't plain text
[09:18] <teer2> Could someone with Firefox & Totem plug-in take a look at this page, and tell me if it works for them?  http://metavid.ucsc.edu/wiki_dev/mv_embed/sample_page.php
[09:18] <alecw1> umop-apisdn: shit. :(
[09:18] <Jordan_U> alecw1, What directory did you save it too?
[09:18] <madman91> teer2: on it
[09:18] <umop-apisdn> alecw1: my thoughts exactly, but someone may be able to help you
[09:19] <alecw1> documents/
[09:19] <madman91> teer2: which one should i click on?
[09:19] <ramirex> hello
[09:19] <Kevin4381> can't find much documentation on this; my sound cuts out completely (goes silent, no sound in any app) and at random times (when using sound).
[09:19] <Jordan_U> alecw1, ls -a ~/documents
[09:19] <teer2> madman91: The idea is to see if either the top and or bottom videos work.
[09:19] <madman91> teer2: top is working
[09:19] <teer2> madman91: For me, only the top does.
[09:19] <Jordan_U> alecw1, There may be a backup that is just a hidden file
[09:19] <madman91> teer2: ok.. let me try bottom
[09:19] <teer2> madman91: You might have to reload.  Or even restart (if you can)
[09:19] <rjb> aptitude show e2undel
[09:20] <umop-apisdn> oh, hey... there might be a document.doc~ backup file
[09:20] <teer2> madman91: *restart the browser
[09:20] <madman91> teer2: bottom works as well
[09:20] <teer2> madman91: Really!
[09:20] <madman91> teer2: for me it does
[09:20] <teer2> madman91: Can you play them both at the same time?
[09:20] <apocalypti> whats the thing that is in the upper-right on the status bar that displays programs that are running in the background?
[09:20] <madman91> teer2: no
[09:20] <madman91> teer2: only top or only bottom
[09:20] <mikubuntu_> umop-apisdn: you axed: mikubuntu_: are you running a 64-bit os?  i'm not sure, how do i find out?  i have a dell lattitide 600, running a wubi install of ubuntu .. ?
[09:21] <alecw1> I FOUND IT! OMG!!!! Yeah, hidden file. Looks like the one I saved last too!!!! Just opened it up in Openoffice, looks great. holy crap... I love this channel. Thanks so much Jordan_U and umop-apisdn. A stroke of good luck!
[09:21] <teer2> madman91: What does you "about:plugins" say for OGG ?  Is it being run by Totem 2.18.1 ?
[09:21] <umop-apisdn> mikubuntu_: sorry, i don't know what a wubi is.. nor do i know how to determine what version of an os you are running
[09:21] <madman91> teer2: its being run by java
[09:21] <umop-apisdn> alecw1: glad to be of help. good luck with your homework
[09:22] <alecw1> umop-apisdn: heh, thanks again. :) And you, Jordan_U. :)
[09:22] <teer2> madman91: Ah, okay - I need to figure out what package it is so I can install it.  Thanks for your help.
[09:22] <umop-apisdn> alecw1: make sure you're certain you want to delete the trash, next time, k?
[09:22] <madman91> teer2: sure
[09:22] <umop-apisdn> hehe
[09:22] <alecw1> heh.
[09:23] <apocalypti> whats the thing that is in the upper-right on the status bar that displays programs that are running in the background?
[09:23] <Kevin4381> can't find much documentation on this; my sound cuts out completely (goes silent, no sound in any app) and at random times (when using sound).
[09:23] <mikubuntu_> getting this output from terminal: Download done.
[09:23] <mikubuntu_> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[09:23] <mikubuntu_> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[09:23] <mikubuntu_>   can anyone tell me what to do next to complete install???
[09:23] <Kevin4381> I have everything set to autodetect in the sound prefs and multimedia systems selector
[09:23] <rampy> sp3000: hey i am back..i am not able to make swap space but this time i did get unmount option and also the circle (with cross across) was not dim
[09:24] <Kevin4381> why does the sound quit on me??
[09:24] <Kevin4381> it comes back after a few minutes
[09:24] <umop-apisdn> mikubuntu_: looks like a bad download. md5sum is a checksum
[09:24] <rampy> sp3000: when i finally installed it said no swap space and nothing happened
[09:24] <umop-apisdn> mikubuntu_: you might try redownloading the package
[09:24] <rampy> sp3000: do i need to restart/?
[09:25] <rampy> sp3000: or ubuntu does it automatically like windows
[09:25] <sp3000> rampy: what said no swap space?
[09:25] <sp3000> rampy: when did nothing happen, nad what flavor of nothing
[09:25] <ramza3> I was trying to test a web application but dont have IE, is there a browser that is closest to IE, opera maybe?  or other browser I can install with ubuntu
[09:25] <Kevin4381> anybody know why my sound stops working all the time?
[09:25] <jamesdell> ramza3: firefox
[09:25] <sp3000> that reminds me, I should set up some vm thingage to run that evil browser
[09:26] <ramza3> jamesdell, besides firefox, dingbat
[09:26] <rampy> sp3000: nothing happened in the sense when i said install finally...i got pop up window ..failed to create swap space
[09:26] <jamesdell> ramza3: konqueror, mozilla
[09:26] <decavolt> Ok, looking deeper - Nautilus preferences -> behavior has "Ask before emptying trash or deleting files" checked, but I am not getting a prompt/confirmation when deleting files from either linux or ntfs partitions.
[09:26] <ramza3> jamesdell, ok, thanks
[09:26] <sp3000> ramza3: I guess konqueror should be close enough to safari
[09:26] <rampy> sp3000: and then the instillation window  just closed
[09:26] <ramza3> sp3000, even though I dont have KDE?
[09:27] <riaal> Is there some way to make mouted folders not apear in the desktop?
[09:27] <sp3000> ramza3: but nothing with IE's questionable particular awesomenesses I guess except for itself
[09:27] <ramza3> sp3000, I dont need kde, do I?
[09:27] <sp3000> ramza3: konqueror will pull in some libs with it sure, but no you don't need kde
[09:27] <eddie> Does anyone know where I can find a .mov codec for totem?
[09:27] <FunnyLookinHat> !Restricted | eddie
[09:27] <ubotu> eddie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:28] <kennyman> I need help to set up my usb soundcard. I don't find it from alsaconf, but lsusb shows me it...
[09:28] <mind-shift> say my name
[09:28] <mind-shift> type
[09:28] <mind-shift> mind-shift
[09:28] <decavolt> riaal, If you're using Gnome, you can set that in your Config editior (should be available from your Gnome menu)
[09:28] <Kevin4381> anybody know why my sound stops working all the time?
[09:28] <decavolt> riaal, system -> administration -> config editor
[09:28] <ramza3> sp3000, hmmm 45mb download, something tells me this is a bad idea
[09:29] <sp3000> ramza3: why?
[09:29] <ramza3> sp3000, shrug
[09:29] <suprchris> I need help upgrading ubuntu from breezy.
[09:29] <sp3000> I mean unless you're paying by the megabyte or something
[09:29] <DrSavage> is there any good howto on setting up a ircd server on ubuntu?
[09:29] <rampy> sp3000: should i delete the sda6 partion?
[09:29] <sp3000> ramza3: I consider it good practice to test sites with everything I can :)
[09:29] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hey folks... i asked this b4 but i am asking again... whats the deal with connecting to a voice server on yahoo in ubuntu??
[09:29] <sp3000> rampy: so hm. you got sda6 changed to or replaced by an ext3 partition, and the installation actually did something like show you a progress bar for some minutes and stuff?
[09:29] <ramza3> sp3000, I dont know just havent installed anything kde related hope it doesnt mess up my system or anything
[09:30] <rampy> sp3000:nope nothing
[09:30] <sp3000> ramza3: shouldn't mess up anything
[09:30] <sp3000> rampy: so I guess it didn't like not having a swap partition
[09:30] <JoelleLam> has anyone had any luck IRC setting up jpackage on ubuntu?
[09:30] <mari> hallo
[09:30] <rampy> sp3000: i guess now i back to orginal screen though not i get option of unmount and delete
[09:30] <sp3000> rampy: so if you can go and delete the sda6 partition and create a 1GB or so swap and an ext3 in the remaining space there, it should like that better
[09:31] <rampy> sp3000: ok..
[09:31] <sp3000> rampy: ehm. I wonder why it gets confused about the unmount
[09:31] <sp3000> rebooting is so boring
[09:31] <rampy> sp3000: i know
[09:31] <mari> sprich hier jemand deutsch
[09:32] <stefg> !dr
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <stefg> !de
[09:32] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:32] <georgy28> !de
[09:32] <tonyT> slightly different question, what file are the keyboard shortcuts stored in? I'm about to butcher them but would like to make a backup
[09:32] <rampy> sp3000: BTW  if i delete it what will happen of that space?
[09:32] <underdog5004> I've looked in the man page, but I can't figure it out. How can I get tar to not follow symlinks?
[09:32] <decavolt> ok, so shift-delete gives me the "are you sure" prompt. Any way to make that the default without the shift modifier?
[09:32] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> does anyone have thoughts on the voice chat for yahoo on ubuntu??
[09:32] <gunilla> Har nyss brjat med Ubuntu, ser fint ut, vill ha kontakt med er som arbetar med Video o animationer. Anvnder ni ubuntustudio? Jag har laddat hem det och brnnt p CD-skiva men datorn vill ej boota frn den nr jag startar om, har d tips? GG
[09:32] <sp3000> rampy: when you delete sda6 it should show up as an "unallocated" row, and then you can create the necessary partitions there
[09:32] <vas> hey I have installed ubuntu server
[09:33] <vas> and I need to change the hostname
[09:33] <rampy> sp3000: oh ok..i got it...
[09:33] <vas> what is the command to?
[09:33] <obsethryl> gunilla: we speak english here
[09:33] <stefg> !se
[09:33] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[09:33] <mari> ok thank you
[09:33] <vas> anyone?
[09:34] <OldPink> http://www.mbhoy.com/21-07-2007/dell-latitude-l400-laptop - Got the post out! :D Thanks for everything, royel, swmiller6, everyone in here. :D
[09:34] <gunilla> OK  anybody working with Ubuntustudio ???GG
[09:34] <sp3000> rampy: and you might want to delete the tiny sda8 thing if it's still lurking there :)
[09:34] <stefg> !anyone
[09:34] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:34] <piti> vas : look at /etc/hostname
[09:34] <sebas_> vas: #ubuntu-server ?
[09:34] <underdog5004> I've looked in the man page, but I can't figure it out. How can I get tar to not follow symlinks?
[09:34] <underdog5004> or just to ignore them?
[09:34] <gumpish> hmmm, I'm trying to transfer a large file (3 GB) from my 7.04 machine to a Mac. It seems to get corrupted during transfer (md5 sums are different). I've tried SMB and scp, the resulting files are corrupted in a consistent manner.
[09:35] <vas> sebas: thnx didnt know bout that channel
[09:35] <sebas_> vas: me neither, I just hopped it existed ;)
[09:35] <sp3000> gunilla: #ubuntustudio probably does
[09:35] <Jordan_U> gumpish, What kind of file?
[09:35] <riaal> decavolt, can't find the "config editor"? =S
[09:35] <rampy> sp3000: should i keep other drives as media
[09:35] <gumpish> Jordan_U: a .dmg disk image
[09:36] <decavolt> riaal, it may not be in your Gnome menu, but it's there. One sec
[09:36] <Jordan_U> gumpish, OSx may be adding some meta-data to it or something
[09:36] <gumpish> :o
[09:36] <sp3000> rampy: well the /media/sdX are generic suggestions that work
[09:36] <zerokill88> can anyone help me connect use my cellphone for a modem. ive tried wvdial and seem to have it configured right but no luck. or if you know of another modem software that works let me know
[09:36] <decavolt> riaal, right-click on your gnome menu and choose Edit Menus
[09:36] <sp3000> rampy: I like to make my windows partitions /C /D etc. so they match with the windows letters
[09:36] <gunilla> sp3000 Did not understand once again GG
[09:37] <stefg> !ubuntustudio
[09:37] <decavolt> riaal, look around in there, put a check in the box next to Config Editor, save and close, then look in your menu and it'll be there.
[09:37] <ubotu> ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[09:37] <sp3000> gunilla: the #ubuntustudio channel probably knows better about ubuntustudio
[09:37] <decavolt> riaal, it's just hidden (by default, I believe)
[09:37] <craigbass1976> How do I send kinky messages to my wife on another computer with xmessage?
[09:37] <rampy> sp3000: so i won't require to  format it i guess by changing the name
[09:37] <decavolt> craigbass1976, IM, email...
[09:38] <Jack_Sparrow> underdog5004: I didnt think it followed the link, just copied the symlink
[09:38] <gunilla> sp3000 How do I get to the Ubuntustudiochannel??? GG
[09:38] <craigbass1976> decavolt, no, xmessage.  I was looking for immediate, and she doesn't IM
[09:38] <PriceChild> gunilla, /join #ubuntustudio
[09:38] <underdog5004> Jack_Sparrow, oh...maybe it does...I'm not totally sure, tbh
[09:38] <decavolt> craigbass1976, I know, just giving you some $#!t :)
[09:38] <tonyT>  what file are the keyboard shortcuts stored in? I'm about to butcher them but would like to make a backup
[09:38] <sp3000> rampy: the part where it suggests the /media/... foo is just naming where the partitions should appear on your system
[09:38] <craigbass1976> ok. :)
[09:38] <gunilla> PriceChild How??  GG
[09:38] <PriceChild> gunilla, type that
[09:38] <Nutubuntu> gumpish,  can you determine whether the corruption is taking place *on* the destination computer or *during* the transfer? For example, burn a dvd, checksum it, copy the file from the dvd to the destination, checksum the copy ... ?
[09:38] <Jack_Sparrow> underdog5004: Make a folder, put in a symlink and then tar that folder and I think you get only the link not what the link points to
[09:39] <decavolt> craigbass1976, There isn't an option in the man page?
[09:39] <craigbass1976> decavolt, can't open display, but :0.0 isn't working
[09:39] <osxdude|la1> gunilla, what client?
[09:39] <sp3000> rampy: yeah you don't want to reformat the partitions that have windows or data on them :)
[09:39] <rampy> sp3000: finally working!!!
[09:39] <riaal> decavolt, mine is on a different language, can't find anything that would match "config editor" can you check the console command for it?
[09:39] <georgy28> #ubuntustudio
[09:39] <underdog5004> Jack_Sparrow, thanks so much! I appreciate your time
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[09:39] <pit1> some to help me setting up a creative audigy 2 zs usb ?
[09:39] <rampy> sp3000: i got a pop window
[09:39] <decavolt> riaal, try gconf-editor
[09:39] <decavolt> riaal, at the cmd line
[09:39] <rampy> sp3000: The attempt to mount a file system with type ntfs in SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #5 (sda) at /C failed.
[09:40] <rampy> sp3000: it gives me option to go back /continue
[09:40] <sp3000> rampy: where is this?
[09:40] <stefg> !ntfs-3g
[09:40] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:40] <riaal> decavolt, got it, where shall I look for the icon stuff?=
[09:40] <rampy> sp3000: it my C drive (windows)
[09:41] <sp3000> rampy: yeah, more like where in the ui and whose ui
[09:41] <rampy> sp30
[09:41] <riaal> Can I do something to fstab to make some mounts not show on the desktop?
[09:41] <decavolt> riaal, should be under system tools or administration
[09:41] <rampy> sp3000: i didn't get it
[09:41] <rampy> sp3000:  UI?
[09:41] <Dsbeerf> Hello i really need help, how i can make grub rebuilt a menu.lst ?
[09:42] <sp3000> rampy: if this is the partition editor, you may not be able to change maunt points since they don't exist; if this is the partition selector thing I'd expect it to not be mounting them at that time
[09:42] <decavolt> riaal, fstab doesn't effect where they show up
[09:42] <stefg> riaal: don't mount to subdirs of /media
[09:42] <sp3000> nor should you need to change mount points in the partition editor for the windows partitions, just the partition selector
[09:42] <rjb> Dsbeerf: update-grub
[09:43] <rampy> sp3000: i frankly didn't get the stuff..should i go back and make some changes?
[09:43] <riaal> stefg, I didn't but when I use fstab to specify the mount whit noauto and then mount then they show anyway
[09:43] <suprchris> I can't upgrade from breezy... Help?
[09:43] <rampy> sp3000: or should i continue
[09:43] <gunilla> ubuntustudiochannel???
[09:43] <sp3000> rampy: ui = user interface. what I mean is I don't know where you are so I don't know why it's telling you that
[09:43] <jetscreamer> update-grub is becoming deprecated btw iirc
[09:43] <sp3000> and whether it's relevant, even
[09:43] <rampy> sp30
[09:43] <JoelleLam> I am trying to setup jpackage, but once I add rpm to my sources.list it does not recognize rpm.   Any suggestions?
[09:44] <rampy> sp3000:  do u want to resume partitining?
[09:44] <nickrud> suprchris, you need to go  dapper->edgy->feisty; it'd be easier & faster to reinstall
[09:44] <olive> gunilla: #ubuntustudio
[09:44] <Dsbeerf> jetscreamer, if is deprecated what i should use then ?
[09:44] <nickrud> jetscreamer, what's replacing it
[09:44] <rampy> sp3000: The attempt to mount a file system with type ntfs in SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #5 (sda) at /C failed.
[09:44] <jetscreamer> Dsbeerf: becoming, as in soon, not yet
[09:44] <sp3000> rampy: yeah you did say that
[09:44] <jetscreamer> Dsbeerf: not sure, it said though
[09:44] <Dsbeerf> well i did but my windows installation still not in menu.lst
[09:44] <gunilla> Olive I saw yoy sign but where do I type it in??  GG
[09:44] <sp3000> rampy: but I don't know what's around that
[09:45] <sp3000> rampy: more screenshots I suppose
[09:45] <rampy> sp3000: the top line says : do you want to resume partitioning?
[09:45] <nickrud> Dsbeerf, I have a stanza you can put in grub for windows; what partition is your windows on?
[09:45] <olive> gunilla: just type /join #ub...
[09:45] <riaal> I don't want an Icon on the desktop for my nfs mounted folders, any sugestions? (the are not mounted in /media)
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[09:45] <lemling> loool
[09:45] <rampy> sp3000: and bottom it says The attempt to mount a file system with type ntfs in SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #5 (sda) at /C failed.
[09:45] <sp3000> rampy: sure but I don't know the answer to that without context
[09:45] <lemling> that is awsome
[09:45] <Dsbeerf> nickrud, is /sda1
[09:46] <rampy> sp3000: hmm lol
[09:46] <sp3000> rampy: I know what that means but not why it's trying, without more context
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> JoelleLam:  Are you trying to use RPM's.. sorry if I came into the conversation late
[09:46] <nickrud> Dsbeerf, paste this at the end of menu.lst then: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38380
[09:47] <JoelleLam> Jack_Sparrow?  Actually, my ultimate goal is simply to download nbjunit.  I was told that if I setup jpackage I can "apt-get install nbjunit".
[09:48] <function1> how can i see what packages have been added to gutsy?
[09:48] <Dsbeerf> nickrud, there nothing to make it auto scan ?
[09:48] <stefg> !gutsy
[09:48] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[09:48] <function1> thx
[09:48] <nickrud> Dsbeerf, update-grub is supposed to do that; maybe that's why it's getting a replacement
[09:48] <craigbass1976> decavolt, DISPLAY=:0 xmessage "Want to ...?" worked. :)
[09:49] <nickrud> Dsbeerf, as I remember it, anyway
[09:49] <craigbass1976> decavolt, Toodles
[09:49] <decavolt> craigbass1976 nice! thanks
[09:50] <Jack_Sparrow> JoelleLam: Where are you getting your instructions?>
[09:50] <zerokill88> does anyone know how i can cominicate with my cellphone or set it up as a modem?
[09:50] <Mahrellon> Hi, I was stupid enough to change my beryl setting to "Force Nvidia" and now Gnome just locks up everytime I login. How can I (from a terminal) change this?
[09:50] <nikin> is tere a program to eject, and close the cd/dvd drive?
[09:50] <VSG1990> could someone help me get my direct rendering to work
[09:51] <JoelleLam>  Jack_Sparrow: According to the jpackage site, it says to add  line items such as "rpm ....". I have "rpm" in /usr/bin/rpm, but I get the feeling that it is something different.  The jpackage setup instructions are here http://jpackage.org/apt.php.
[09:51] <osxdude|la1> Mahrellon. Load up recovery mode instead
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !rpm
[09:51] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:51] <sldkfj> Mahrellon, open the .berylmanagerrc file and set things to 0
[09:51] <nickrud> riaal, open gconf-editor and navigate to apps/nautilus/desktop, and unselect network_icons_visible
[09:51] <VSG1990> could someone help me get my direct rendering to work
[09:51] <Mahrellon> sldkfj; Thanks m8! =D
[09:51] <sldkfj> sudo nano ~/.berylmanagerrc
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> rampy: is that 5th partition a primary partition rather than a partition inside an extended partition
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> rampy: I probably phrased that wrong
[09:52] <Davy_Jhones> rampy left
[09:52] <stefg> VSG1990: you need to provide which video adapter you have, and what you've done before
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry.. thanks Davy_Jhones
[09:52] <Davy_Jhones> np
[09:53] <[phear] crippler> Is there a good movie and audio codec plugin I could download? If so whats the name?
[09:53] <[phear] crippler> i use xMMs
[09:53] <riaal> nickrud, it was not selected??
[09:53] <stefg> !codecs
[09:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:53] <JoelleLam> ubotu: I would rather use apt.  I thought the whole point of modifying sources.list is simply to add another repository.  In fact the directions that tell me to add rpm are titled "Apt".
[09:53] <Mahrellon> Brb, need to test it. :)
[09:53] <Davy_Jhones> does xmms play video
[09:53] <JoelleLam> Jack_Sparrow you may want to look at my last comment too.
[09:53] <VSG1990> stefg: I have an ATI Radeon X1300 PCIe card, and I just upgraded the driver to 8.38.7, which is the latest version and that let me change my screen resolution to the proper size, but it still doesn't have direct rendering
[09:53] <nickrud> riaal, odd then. The reason I took so long is I fired up gconf-editor and tested it; it worked here
[09:54] <mahrellon> It worked! Cheers again m8. :D
[09:54] <Jordan_U> VSG1990, fglrx or "ati" ?
[09:54] <stefg> !ati | VSG1990
[09:54] <ubotu> VSG1990: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:55] <ShackJack> VSG1990: fglrx won't show direct rendering, but if you're trying to get Compiz et al to work, ,you can of course run under XGL no probkem...
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> JoelleLam: I did.. and you are trying to add rpm repos to Ubuntu?
[09:56] <ShackJack> Hello all - I'm trying to rip just the audio off of a DVD for burning to a CD - can any one direct me to a guide or offer some tips?
[09:56] <stefg> !dvd
[09:56] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:56] <Davy_Jhones> ShackJack: you'll need a video editing program for that
[09:56] <VSG1990> I don't know exactly which one I'm running fglrx or ati, but fglrxinfo give me this "
[09:56] <VSG1990> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:56] <VSG1990> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[09:56] <VSG1990> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[09:56] <VSG1990> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:56] <VSG1990> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[09:56] <Davy_Jhones> probably jahshaka
[09:56] <riaal> nickrud, thanks a lot for helping, I removed "volumes_visible" and the dissaperd, wondering what will happen when I put a USBstick in now =)
[09:56] <Veen> Has anyone had problems running Frostwire on a 64-bit machine?
[09:56] <ShackJack> !pastebin | VSG1990
[09:56] <ubotu> VSG1990: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:57] <nickrud> riaal, that's different, it should show since it gets mounted in /media (as you noted earlier :)
[09:57] <ghosts> I have a USB headset, i have all the sound going to it and it works fine if i play the sound locally, but and sound coming over the internet like internet radio or flash based sounds do not play on the headset, what can i do to fix that?
[09:57] <VSG1990> ubotu: sry
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <r0xz3r0> algum brasileiro?
[09:57] <JoelleLam> Jack_Sparrow: Is there another way around it to use jpackage?  Why does it have directions for "rpm" on the "apt" site?
[09:57] <riaal> nickrud, great! thanks
[09:57] <stefg> !ubotu
[09:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:57] <sayers> Does SLI work on Ubuntu?
[09:57] <sayers> !sli
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <nickrud> riaal, yw
[09:58] <Varsendaggr> Hey i need to use a debian source for apt-get...   how do i do taht?
[09:58] <ShackJack> stefg: Dunno if !dvd was directed at me, but it doesn't sem to address the question (?)
[09:58] <Varsendaggr> that
[09:58] <shinynew> hey Iam having some troble with conky right now, Whenever a window is moved over the text it has to wait to be redrawn before reappearing, is there any way to fix that?
[09:58] <Nutubuntu> !br
[09:58] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> JoelleLam: I didnt see anythin on the first link you gave showing that it works with debian or ubuntu.. Did I miss something?
[09:58] <Varsendaggr> it is in the form http://packages.debian.org/stable/libdevel/
[09:59] <stefg> ShackJack: i was just fishing (and missed). I'd try vlc
[09:59] <ShackJack> stefg: :)
[09:59] <JoelleLam> Jack_Sparrow: You mean you didn't anything related to "apt"?
[10:00] <ShackJack> Just asking for a friend, whose totally new to Ubuntu, and I don't do much editing... but he basically wants to rip the audio track off of a DVD to record on a CD... If any one can suggest a proggie, that'd be great... I'll check out VLC (I have installed)
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> JoelleLam: I found this in the ubuntu repos..   utilities for the JPackage Project
[10:01] <Veen> I am having trouble running Frostwire on a 64-bit machine? Any ideas?
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Not sure if it is in universe or multiverse as I have those enabled..
[10:02] <abcd3212> Is there any way to completely restore ubuntu without reinstalling it?
[10:02] <JoelleLam> Jack_Sparrow: Is it jpackage-utils?  I believe I already have that, but for some reason it does not work.  I am not able to call the "apt-get install nbjunit".  Or is there something else that you are seeing?
[10:02] <ShackJack> abcd3212: Restore what, exactly?
[10:03] <abcd3212> ShackJack, As it was when it was just installed
[10:03] <pit1> (usb-soundcard trouble) I've post the output of dmesg. I think a part of the problem is here : http://www.pastebin.ca/628938
[10:03] <stefg> abcd3212: not really. it's more work to do that than to just reinstall
[10:04] <ShackJack> abcd3212: No, not really, I mean you can install the main meta packages, ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal ubuntu standard, but any other proggie you've installed since then, etc... will remain.... Or you could try a purge/reinstall :)
[10:04] <abcd3212> Hmm, I see
[10:04] <ShackJack> abcd3212: Just a tip, I always make a separate partition for my /home dir, so reinstalls/upgrades are a breeze :)
[10:05] <ShackJack> abcd3212: Are you trying to fix something or justlike Ubuntu the way is was?
[10:05] <stefg> !backup | abcd3212
[10:05] <ubotu> abcd3212: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:05] <Thunderhit> is there a log like that lists which packages I installed/deinstalled using the ubuntu packet manager?
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> JoelleLam: Not seeing anything other than what I copied from synaptic.. All I see on their site are rpm's and I already had the bot tell you about deb's vs rpm's
[10:05] <southafrikanse> How can I see my terminal log?
[10:05] <abcd3212> Well, Im trying to fix something. For every program I install I get an error message saying "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:06] <bulmer> Thunderhit, yes it has, the dpkg uses somekind of database..but i dont the name of it and which files are the databases
[10:06] <stefg> abcd3212: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:06] <nickrud> southafrikanse, what do you mean by 'terminal log' ?
[10:06] <abcd3212> stefg, Same thing happened now
[10:07] <ShackJack> abcd3212: Yeah, that's just dependency BS you can work aorund - don't reinstall -- that's the Windows way :P
[10:07] <shinynew> Is there any small app that is simply the system panel/tray?
[10:07] <southafrikanse> nickrud: I wrote a command in the terminal yesterday. And I want to see what I wrote
[10:07] <abcd3212> Haha
[10:07] <stefg> abcd3212: so what error ? (you left the interesting part out)
[10:07] <ShackJack> abcd3212: Did you try synaptic package mgr and "fix broken packages:
[10:07] <nickrud> southafrikanse, hit ctl-r , and type part of the command
[10:07] <bulmer> southafrikanse, try  man history
[10:07] <abcd3212> Something about --configure
[10:08] <abcd3212> cp cant take status on /etc/inittab
[10:08] <NigelS> abcd3212: dpkg --configure -a maybe?
[10:08] <stefg> abcd3212: no not something about ... a prcise mesaage plz
[10:08] <abcd3212> It's in swedish :P
[10:08] <nickrud> abcd3212, yeah, put it on a pastebin, the whole thing, anyway.
[10:08] <abcd3212> Alrighty
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Better and complete questions make for better answers
[10:09] <stefg> abcd3212: paste it to !pastebin
[10:09] <stefg> !paste | abcd3212
[10:09] <ubotu> abcd3212: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:09] <abcd3212> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30713/
[10:10] <sldkfj> shinynew, explain what you need
[10:10] <stefg> !find libpq5
[10:10] <ubotu> Found: libpq5
[10:10] <nickrud> the problem is, there is no /etc/inittab
[10:11] <abcd3212> Should I just create a folder named that then?
[10:11] <nickrud> abcd3212, no ...
[10:11] <stefg> !upstart | abcd3212
[10:11] <ubotu> abcd3212: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[10:11] <Dsbeerf> someone can tell me the difference between beryl and compiz ?
[10:12] <bulmer> nickrud, that upstart is for you really
[10:12] <stefg> abcd3212: sudo apt-get remove --purge runit
[10:12] <ShackJack> Dsbeerf: Beryl is being remerged to compiz (fusion) so they will soon have the same features... check out #compiz-fusion for more deets...
[10:13] <nickrud> bulmer, yes, I know of it. But libpq5 doesn't
[10:13] <sldkfj> Dsbeerf, beryl is dead, compiz-fusion is the latest
[10:13] <nickrud> bulmer, abcd3212 looking at bug reports
[10:13] <bulmer> ok
[10:13] <sldkfj> Dsbeerf, visit #compiz-fusion  at your leisure
[10:13] <Dsbeerf> ok
[10:14] <ge2x> how to see who is the dir's owner?
[10:14] <Dsbeerf> compiz-fusion = 3d cube or is beryl ?
[10:14] <alecw1> both.
[10:14] <sldkfj> yeah same thing essentiall
[10:14] <sldkfj> essentially
[10:14] <abcd3212> stefg, that worked! What did it do?
[10:14] <PriceChild> Dsbeerf, beryl is now compiz fusion
[10:14] <PriceChild> Dsbeerf, compiz is still compiz
[10:14] <ge2x> how to see who is the dir's owner?
[10:15] <stefg> abcd3212: remove runit, which doesn't work with upstart
[10:15] <Dsbeerf> so if i want to 3d cube that rotate what i have to install ?
[10:15] <zdzichu_> compiz and beryl are now compiz fusion
[10:15] <abcd3212> I see :-) Well, thanks a bunch!
[10:15] <sldkfj> compiz basic cube while fusion is plugin loaded
[10:15] <PriceChild> zdzichu_, compiz is the core, compiz fusion (beryl) is a set of other plugins
[10:15] <PriceChild> Dsbeerf, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[10:15] <ge2x> how to see who is the dir's owner?
[10:15] <limteer> Freenx Windows client when connecting to Feisty, shutsdown after initial screen splash, can anyone help?
[10:15] <PriceChild> !away > ebuyer|ins`aw
[10:15] <Thunderhit> ok, here my problem: I installed some packages like libxvid for mplayer, but it looks like for one of those, there was an, well, important one removed. The objects that were in the systray like xchat and audacious are now in the task bar and I cant close the one for audacious... anyone know which package I need to make it work again?
[10:16] <linux_newbie2> can anyone help me install a raw printer in cups?
[10:16] <NETWizz> what is the best Dock for Gnome
[10:16] <shinynew> sldkfj: I am sorry for some reason it switched my input method and it took some time to switch it back. I want a small floating app that is only the system tray, like where notifications and such come up. is there any app that does just that
[10:16] <sldkfj> zdzichu_, you can get compiz with the desktop effects in the system menu,  compiz-fusion has a channel to assist
[10:16] <sldkfj> shinynew, Ubuntu (Gnome) can give you things to insert onto the taskbar a 'notification area' and a 'system monitor' applet...... right click on the taskbar and select 'add to panel'
[10:17] <j0nas`> has anyone gotten their suspend function to work?
[10:17] <VSG1990> stefg: I used the BinaryDriverHowtoATI but it still does not work
[10:17] <j0nas`> is there a post on it anywhere?
[10:17] <shinynew> sldkfj:no see I want it with a panel
[10:17] <sldkfj> shinynew, is that close enough?
[10:17] <Veen> Does anyone know how to access a windows computer's shared files?
[10:18] <sldkfj> like a desktop image
[10:18] <shinynew> sldkfj: while I am running ubunutu I am using openbox, on a slow computer, all I want from the panel is the system tray, where can I find something to give me JUST that
[10:18] <stefg> VSG1990: ATI is a pita to get to work on linux, and knowing how hard atis driver suck, i don't touch tem with 10 ft. poles. So i just don't know, but there are ati guys around here
[10:19] <VSG1990> stefg: ok, thanks
[10:19] <Veen> Does anyone know how to access a windows computer's shared files?
[10:19] <sldkfj> I forget what I used in the past, it's been a while.  what is it cronky or something
[10:19] <Guest56044343> can you change up like a very little bit, then sell it
[10:20] <limteer> Freenx Windows client when connecting to Feisty, shutsdown after initial screen splash, can anyone help?
[10:20] <VSG1990> can anyone tell me what this means? Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:20] <Subhuman> VSG1990, you dont have DRI enabled
[10:20] <sldkfj> shinynew, cronky will put system info on the desktop for you
[10:20] <NETWizz> NO
[10:20] <NETWizz> suspend never works
[10:21] <VSG1990> Subhuman: how would I enable it?
[10:21] <shinynew> sldkfj, I have conky, but it will not pop up and alert me of things.
[10:21] <ge2x> how to see who is the dir's owner?
[10:21] <ProN00b> hmm, anyone knows how i can invert screen colour ?
[10:21] <stefg> !info conky
[10:21] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 123 kB, installed size 416 kB
[10:21] <sldkfj> what's that other one something called krellem
[10:22] <linux_newbie2> ge2x: if you are using the gnome file manager, right click on the file and go to properties
[10:22] <sldkfj> gkrellm
[10:22] <VSG1990> how do I enable DRI for my video card ?
[10:22] <C-{pR0F> sldkfj, There is some processes that crash , and i can't kill them from the sysyem monitor , and i tried the "sudo kill -9 pid" and it didn't work , anyway to terminate them ,, their status is Uninterruptible  !!!!!
[10:23] <ge2x> linux_newbie2: no i need through command line
[10:23] <Subhuman> VSG1990, if you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" go through the options and one will ask you to enable modules-  select DRI in that list."
[10:23] <linux_newbie2> ge2x: if in the command line, do ls -o, and it is the third column
[10:23] <Subhuman> ge2x, run "ls -l" to see owners.
[10:23] <linux_newbie2> can anyone help me install a raw printer in cups?
[10:23] <VSG1990> Subhuman: ok i will try that
[10:23] <ge2x> thnx
[10:23] <sldkfj> shinynew, look into     gkrellm
[10:23] <shinynew> sldkfj thanks
[10:24] <sldkfj> C-{pR0F, wouldn't know,  you need someone more technical than I
[10:24] <C-{pR0F> sldkfj: and do u know that one ?
[10:24] <stefg> VSG1990: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3299
[10:25] <sldkfj> C-{pR0F, nope, I'm not that far along in the book yet  tbh
[10:26] <NETWizz> I cannot get my computer to suspend and wake up
[10:26] <shinynew> sldkfj well thanks for that, but that doesn't seem to have anything about the system tray, just various stats
[10:26] <NETWizz> I use the nvidia driver
[10:26] <NETWizz> is it bugged
[10:26] <hexstar> NETWizz: how old is your computer? have you flashed the bios?
[10:26] <NETWizz> no
[10:26] <NETWizz> I haven't
[10:26] <NETWizz> suspend works fine in xp
[10:26] <NETWizz> It is a 3200+
[10:26] <hexstar> how old is your computer?
[10:26] <PriceChild> NETWizz, the binary nvidia driver?
[10:26] <NETWizz> 1 GB Ram
[10:26] <hexstar> oh
[10:27] <VSG1990> stefg: thanks
[10:27] <PriceChild> NETWizz, as in from restricted drivers manager?
[10:27] <NETWizz> Motherboard is K8T890-A ECS Junk
[10:27] <PriceChild> NETWizz, or envy, automatix, nvidia.com etc.
[10:27] <hexstar> NETWizz: I would try flashing, could be a linux+bios incompatibility, never hurts
[10:27] <NETWizz> nvidia.com
[10:27] <PriceChild> hexstar, no
[10:27] <hexstar> PriceChild: what do you mean?
[10:27] <PriceChild> NETWizz, that is one of the bad things about binary kernel modules
[10:27] <NETWizz> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
[10:27] <NETWizz> I know
[10:27] <NETWizz> I also run NDISWrapper
[10:27] <NETWizz> Sorry
[10:27] <NETWizz> I know it is kind of yuckey
[10:28] <hexstar> PriceChild: he said he cannot suspend, that is heavily relient on bios functionality...I think it would be a good idea to try flashing the bios
[10:28] <NETWizz> Why can't Nvidia release their source
[10:28] <NETWizz> hum
[10:28] <PriceChild> hexstar, "and wake up"
[10:28] <NETWizz> It suspends fine
[10:28] <NETWizz> it doens't wake up
[10:28] <Lunks> My gnome-sessions is broken now, and it doesn't start the programs there anymore =\
[10:28] <C-{pR0F> PriceChild: There is some processes that crash , and i can't kill them from the sysyem monitor , and i tried the "sudo kill -9 pid" and it didn't work , anyway to terminate them ,, their status is Uninterruptible  !!!!!
[10:28] <PriceChild> C-{pR0F, what app?
[10:28] <PriceChild> NETWizz, but i'd be willing to bet the nvidia driver is stopping it
[10:29] <stefg> NETWizz: known issue, nvidia forums are full of complaints
[10:29] <NETWizz> Does the Nvidia driver support suspend?
[10:29] <Jack_Sparrow> hexstar: Flashing the bios should be a last resort and only to fix known problems.. A bad flash will destroy a system
[10:29] <PriceChild> NETWizz, yes, but not resume
[10:29] <NETWizz> I take it the ATI driver isn't any better
[10:29] <osxdude|lap> lol
[10:29] <C-{pR0F> PriceChild: nautilus , and wine
[10:29] <PriceChild> NETWizz, the problem is... that we don't know how to reinitiate the card when you wake up
[10:29] <NETWizz> Hence, I can't get a fix by putting an ATI card in and installign that driver
[10:29] <PriceChild> C-{pR0F, "killall wine" ?
[10:29] <linux_newbie2> can anyone help me install a raw printer in cups?
[10:29] <PriceChild> C-{pR0F, "xkill" to click on crashed apps
[10:29] <NETWizz> That explains why X sucks
[10:29] <hexstar> PriceChild: that kills all wine processes
[10:29] <NETWizz> I get a black screen
[10:29] <PriceChild> hexstar, yes
[10:30] <NETWizz> sometimes a cursor
[10:30] <Laggeon> hi all
[10:30] <DimitrisC> Can someone tell me what this means: "MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: ao2_init". Mplayer just stopped working and i don't know why!
[10:30] <C-{pR0F> PriceChild: The problem is that i keep making kill , but it doesn't work , and i can't reboot , cuz i'm upgrading
[10:30] <NETWizz> Probably doesn't help that I have AIGLX with a dozen added xorg plugins
[10:30] <NETWizz> or that I run Beryl too
[10:30] <rjb> i never got suspend to disk to work, what does it take?
[10:30] <hexstar> NETWizz: some video cards just aren't compatible with *nix no matte how hard you try, try another card
[10:30] <PriceChild> C-{pR0F, doesn't work?
[10:30] <NETWizz> Do you think if I just wait a few years
[10:30] <C-{pR0F> PriceChild: xkill fromt the terminal ?
[10:30] <PriceChild> C-{pR0F, as in they don't get killed?
[10:30] <NETWizz> maybe the drives and shit will work right
[10:30] <hexstar> C-{pR0F: try adding su before kill
[10:31] <PriceChild> hexstar, C-{pR0F I very much hope you aren't running nautilus or wine as root!
[10:31] <D7xk> with a dual screen setup, is there any way to make all new windows only open on one screen?
[10:31] <hexstar> rjb: you need a compatible bios
[10:31] <IceLink> Hey there
[10:31] <C-{pR0F> PriceChild: no i don't ,,, but at least i want the nautilus to work , is there a way to restart it
[10:31] <rjb> hibernate works fine in winxp
[10:32] <PriceChild> C-{pR0F, what crashed it?
[10:32] <PriceChild> rjb, using restricted drivers?
[10:32] <C-{pR0F> i guess the wine
[10:32] <rjb> so the bios might be compatible, right?
[10:32] <PriceChild> C-{pR0F, wine and nautilus aren't connected...
[10:32] <PriceChild> rjb, using restricted drivers?
[10:32] <stefg> NETWizz: it works with the nv driver, but kiss aiglx/beryl/xgl stuff byebye then
[10:32] <hexstar> rjb: possibly but with linux you never know, linux can be behind windows in support
[10:32] <danya> hello .. I'm confused here .. I've installed wine and I'm trying to install photoshop with it .. I got to the installation window but when it asks me about the destination folder and I add to c/:program files I get an error .. ? anyone plz ?
[10:32] <rjb> PriceChild: not atm, trying to replace ndiswrapper with bcm43xx
[10:32] <D0pamine> hi all
[10:33] <hexstar> rjb: linux also isn't as concerned as windows is with backwards compatibility so while one kernel may have supported that feature with your bios if your bios is old it may have been unsupported from the kernel by now
[10:33] <rjb> seems to work though it floods my logs with messages
[10:33] <PriceChild> rjb, I'm inexperienced with ndiswrapper... could you try temporarily disabling any drivers with that... and attempting to hibernate again?
[10:33] <IceLink> might anybody help me? When an application starts in Fullscreen mode, my monitor shows me "Mode not supported" and i have to reboot, i already took a look into the xorg.conf but i don't know which mode might be a problem or so
[10:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Consider running with the vesa drivers and seeing if it suspends to disk.. If so you can rule out flashing the bios...
[10:33] <astro76> danya, have you run winecfg first?
[10:33] <Skrypt> Can someone help me find my sound card's chipset? I can 'lspci -v' but cannot determine what chipset I need to add to the end of "sudo modprobe snd-****"  http://pastebin.com/m6bba4dcf
[10:33] <C-{pR0F> PriceChild: i was working on the wine , i clicked on a directory to select it , and then it crashed , i click the "x" to end wine , and then Force to quit ,,, after that the nautilus crashed , and there is a wine process in the system monitor that is unkillable ???
[10:33] <hexstar> IceLink: it means the resolution is too big or small
[10:33] <rjb> PriceChild: igot rid of ndiswrapper & are running the opensource driver now
[10:34] <danya> astro76: I've done that and chose set the type to cdrom and ok
[10:34] <zdzichu_> Skrypt: snd_intel8x0
[10:34] <Skrypt> thank you.
[10:34] <mz--> hi.  for some reason, none of my accounts can use 'su' anymore.  I can log in via root and su to any user, but when logged in as a non-root user i cannot su to root (or any other user).  any ideas?
[10:34] <shinynew> looking for a small program to moniter only the system tray
[10:34] <ShackJack> danya: "Get an error" is not specific enough :) ... p.s. check out #winhq for dedicated wine support...
[10:34] <D0pamine> anyone got experience with the via s3 unichrome adapter , when any live cd with X it fails , just get a blank screen , if i stop X / gdm and edit the xorg.conf to use vesa its fine , its a laptop btw so i cant change it
[10:34] <PriceChild> rjb, and you are positive you are not using any other restricted wireless, graphics whatever drivers?
[10:34] <ShackJack> err. #winehq
[10:34] <IceLink> hexstar: well, in the xorg.conf, there are only normal resolutiopns from 640*480 to 12..*... and they are all supported, i think
[10:34] <llllllll> Can somebody tell me what I would need to type to automatically recursively copy a whole load of files in several directories into one big new file? I've got loads of photos, all in files within files, and I want all those photos in one big file. There must be a command or something that will allow me to move them quickly.
[10:34] <danya> shackjack : thank u
[10:34] <hexstar> IceLink: what driver are you using?
[10:35] <PriceChild> C-{pR0F, I'm not sure of best practice... but personally I'd "killall app" on any naughty processes.
[10:35] <IceLink> hexstar? dunno... maybe you mean this x11-stuff?^^
[10:35] <bulmer> mz--, visudo and figure out the allowed users to sudo
[10:35] <mz--> bulmer: listed as all
[10:35] <D0pamine> i'll ask in gentoo-chat>>>
[10:35] <linux_newbie2> can anyone help me install a raw printer in cups?  or point me to a good how-to on it?
[10:35] <rjb> PriceChild: no i did not add any 3d party drivers to feisty
[10:35] <hexstar> IceLink: can you do the gui fine on the live cd?
[10:35] <C-{pR0F> ok  , thankx
[10:35] <Lunks> My gnome-sessions is broken now, and it doesn't start the programs there anymore =\
[10:35] <stefg> !cups
[10:35] <mz--> bulmer: still doesn't mean anything why user nonadmin1 can't su to nonadmin2, either
[10:35] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:35] <IceLink> hexstar: i'm not on live, i've got ubuntu installed for months but only full screen isn't possible, somehow
[10:35] <PriceChild> rjb, I'm afraid I don't know then. I guess others could know more if you gave logs, but I am unsure as to what logs and who to show them to
[10:36] <jmachado> can anyone help me with a ZTE MF620 3G modem?
[10:36] <bulmer> mz--, which line entry?
[10:36] <stefg> !dialup
[10:36] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[10:36] <mz--> bulmer: hold, i need to juggle screens
[10:36] <hexstar> IceLink: right, but my idea is that if you can get gui on the live cd to work, that means you can copy the X config from the live cd ramdisk over your X config. That usually works in cases like this
[10:36] <ShackJack> llllllll - 1. change your screen name... b. you mean photos in one big **file** or **folder** first doesn't make sense...
[10:36] <hexstar> it's a great trick
[10:36] <rjb> PriceChild: when i choose hibernate the system goes to sleep, but when i restart it just does a fresh boot
[10:36] <cavediver> Hi guys, is there a LUKS gui somewhere with a easy .deb install or similar ?
[10:37] <IceLink> hexstar: i'm a little bit confused. which gui do you mean? i don'T use just the console, my gnome-desktio and other apps work fine
[10:37] <sek_> Does anybody know how to setup normal fonts ?
[10:37] <yellow_chicken> in firefox, when i use control-f (find); then type in a text, then control-n( look for next); if it's a link, is there a way to click on it using the keyboard, without having to use the mouse to point to that link, since it's already highlighted?
[10:37] <mz--> bulmer : %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[10:37] <Lunks> My gnome-sessions is broken now, and it doesn't start the programs there anymore =\
[10:37] <PriceChild> rjb, I'm afraid I can't help sorry... I guess that means it can't find the restoration bits...
[10:37] <mz--> bulmer: all my users are in admin by default.
[10:37] <ShackJack> sek_: Normal fonts?
[10:38] <bulmer> mz-- and no one can sudo as root?
[10:38] <CarmenSandiego> (nick changed) ShackJack, I've got a 'photos' folder, inside that are several smaller folders with the actual photos in, taken at all different times. I want them all to be in a single folder together. I'm hoping there's a terminal command that will do this quickly (I'm assuming recursively
[10:38] <mz--> bulmer: no one can sudo, no one can su (to either root, or to any non-root user either)
[10:38] <hexstar> IceLink: When you boot off the live cd for ubuntu, you are given a gui desktop right? That means that the live cd made a X config that works. Ok so that's good, now you said your current X config doesn't work right? So what you do is in the live cd, mount your hard drive, then go to /etc/X11 to get the X config from the live cd ramdisk, copy that x config over the one on your hd and you should be set
[10:39] <mz--> bulmer: another symptom may be a fact that wpasupplicant does not start, nor do usbdrives and optical drives automount either.  don't know if those are connected.
[10:39] <hexstar> IceLink: essentially we're using to the live cd to autoremake a working x config for you
[10:39] <Jack_Sparrow> mz--: I didnt think you could be logged in as a regular user and get to sudo...
[10:39] <bulmer> mz--, and you used visudo to change that file right not like using a vim or emacs?
[10:39] <mz--> bulmer: visudo, vi
[10:39] <bulmer> mz--, dont use just vi  you must use visudo
[10:39] <CarmenSandiego> ShackJack, never mind, I found a way
[10:39] <IceLink> hexstar: and you know that i've got a gui on my hard-drive ubuntu which i use every day?
[10:39] <themadcircle> okay so i edited some services in ubuntu yesterday, now i cant modify anything
[10:39] <mz--> bulmer: i mean, i did use visudo.  i havent changed anything in the file
[10:39] <ShackJack> CarmenSandiego: Search then drag-move :)
[10:40] <themadcircle> and when i goto services through administration, says i dont have the rights to do that
[10:40] <bulmer> mz--, how did you su to another user?
[10:40] <hexstar> IceLink: thyen what is the problem?
[10:40] <mz--> bulmer: either 'su -' to su to root, or 'su - otheruser'.
[10:40] <ooda> hey does anyone know if there is a background manager for ubuntu like there is for backtrack 2
[10:40] <jmachado> the ZTE MF620 3G modem is not recognized by ubuntu
[10:40] <bulmer> mz-- that sounds right..hmmm
[10:41] <jkjkjkhgg> !lamp
[10:41] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:41] <IceLink> hexstar: FULLSCREEN is a problem. if an app, for example the game 'enigma' is started, the monitor shall show fullscreen but instead, i get the msg from monitor that the mode is not supported
[10:41] <hexstar> ah
[10:41] <whta> is a 2-monitor setup generally plug-and-play with ati drivers? i have my other monitor pluhhed in now and it's not doing what i need
[10:41] <hexstar> what is your card?
[10:41] <jmachado> hexstar are you talking to me?
[10:42] <bulmer> mz--, can you ssh in to localhost  as the other user?
[10:42] <hexstar> no sorry I was talking to IceLink
[10:42] <ooda> does anyone know how to set different wallpapers on different view points?
[10:42] <mz--> bulmer: let me screen this and try.  bbiaf.
[10:42] <eubey_laptop> can somebody help me deal with overscan on a hdtv linked to a computer via dvi?
[10:42] <vranac> Greetings! I have four config files that I have to copy and replace old files on every newly installed box. How can I automate this?
[10:42] <IceLink> hexstar: so you don'T have any idea?
[10:42] <hexstar> IceLink: no I do, I'd like to know your card brand please
[10:43] <bulmer> vranac  use kickstart?
[10:43] <mz--> bulmer: i can log in via ssh (and normal boot).
[10:43] <vranac> Kickstart? OK, on to reading
[10:43] <jmachado> ok, can someone point me were i can find some help with 3G modems? specifically ZTE brand
[10:43] <ooda> does anyone know how to switch channel by typing something like #beryl/
[10:43] <IceLink> hexstar: ?hat's a card brand?
[10:43] <dedi> where are the settings saved from session-manager startup apps (its not ~/.gnome2/session) ?
[10:43] <hexstar> ooda: you do /join #channel
[10:43] <taime1> ooda: /join #whatever
[10:43] <mz--> ooda: /join #channel
[10:43] <ooda> oh ok thanks
[10:43] <taime1> heh
[10:43] <hexstar> IceLink: I mean like nvidia, ati, etc, which is yours?
[10:43] <IceLink> ati
[10:44] <Anthony_> Can somebody help me on getting 1900x1200 resolution for my screen on Ubuntu?
[10:44] <taime1> Anthony_ what video card?
[10:44] <hexstar> IceLink: have you installed the ATI linux driver?
[10:44] <zerokill88> is there a way to dual boot windows and ubuntu,but install windows last?
[10:44] <Anthony_> ATI x600
[10:45] <Anthony_> *radeon
[10:45] <IceLink> hexstar: i installed some driver from the site i guess, however, i've got the configuration-program from ati here
[10:45] <BobbyBuntu> hi, can anyone help with WAP issues. I have a card working using ndiswrapper... but no WPA
[10:45] <BobbyBuntu> sorry, not WAP, WPA!
[10:45] <taime1> Anthony_: already installed the drivers?
[10:45] <hexstar> zerokill88: I don't think so, windows won't see linux and will overwrite the linux bootloader with its own
[10:45] <dedi> zerokill88: just follow the howto fix grub on the ubuntu wiki
[10:45] <Anthony_> meh no, i need help on that
[10:45] <bulmer> vranac https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[10:45] <hexstar> IceLink: well perhaps try renaming your current xconfig and rerunning the config program
[10:45] <umop-apisdn> zerokill88: google Super Grub Disk
[10:45] <BobbyBuntu> I can see the WPA network in the network manager, but after entering the password, the 'Login to Network' option is greyed out
[10:46] <astro76> zerokill88, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:46] <umop-apisdn> zerokill88: saved me when i throw xp home on a drive after putting ubuntu on the primary
[10:46] <hexstar> zerokill88: http://highlandsun.com/hyc/linuxboot.html
[10:46] <zerokill88> hexstar dedi but it wont erase linux just the bootlaoder
[10:46] <vranac> bulmer: many thanks!
[10:46] <BobbyBuntu> and from admin->network, manual mode doesn't list WPA at all
[10:46] <taime1> Anthony_: you know how to use a terminal?
[10:46] <Juan> does anyone know where can i get gngeo packages for feisty?
[10:46] <mz--> BobbyBuntu: does your card support WPA?  do you have a client like wpasupplicant installed?
[10:46] <umop-apisdn> zerokill88: correct.
[10:46] <bulmer> vranac youre welcome
[10:46] <IceLink> hexstar: i'll give it a try
[10:46] <hexstar> zerokill88: you can install windows as long as you have freespace fora  windows partition, then read http://highlandsun.com/hyc/linuxboot.html for instructions on how to configure the windows bootloader for your linux install
[10:46] <BobbyBuntu> mz--: Yes, wpasupplicant is installed
[10:46] <hexstar> IceLink: ok :)
[10:46] <dedi> zerokill88: it will just modify the master boot record, and you can fix this easy
[10:46] <zerokill88> desnt windows try to format the whole drive tho?
[10:47] <BobbyBuntu> is there a terminal command I can try to determine whether WAP is supported by the card>
[10:47] <hexstar> zerokill88: no it doesn't
[10:47] <mz--> BobbyBuntu: and we're certain (absolutely certain) the card is supported?
[10:47] <dedi> zerokill88: no you can just leave the linux partitions but you need a own windows partition
[10:47] <Anthony_> How might i go about installing ATI drivers?
[10:47] <hexstar> zerokill88: it gives you an option to make a partition in freespace
[10:47] <erUSUL> !ati | Anthony_
[10:47] <ubotu> Anthony_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:47] <taime1> Anthony_: you know how to use a terminal?
[10:47] <mz--> BobbyBuntu: it might be easiest to just check the website of the card.  or the ubuntu supported cards list.
[10:47] <NETWizz> Why no opensource Nvidia
[10:47] <NETWizz> or ATI
[10:47] <BobbyBuntu> mz--: Yeah.... I had to use ndiswrapper to get it working
[10:47] <vlt> Hello. I want to watch a dvd with xine. When starting I got "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable". So I installed the library to enable it. Now I get "libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD access ... libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB (0x00013fa6)!!". Any idea what's the problem here?
[10:47] <hexstar> zerokill88: however freespace must be space that has no partition mapped in it, as in completely unformatted so you may have to use gparted to shrink your linux partition
[10:47] <zerokill88> how can i partition my drive?
[10:48] <hexstar> zerokill88: gparted
[10:48] <dedi> anyone knows where are the settings saved from session-manager startup apps (its not ~/.gnome2/session) ?
[10:48] <taime1> Anthony_: let me know when you are ready
[10:48] <zerokill88> ok use gparted to shrink linux and format it to nothing?
[10:48] <mz--> BobbyBuntu: ok, and you are presently using ndiswrapper now then?  I am not the ndiswrapper genius (don't use it).
[10:48] <umop-apisdn> NETWizz: cuz ati and nvidia have decided to keep their proprietary information secret. yell at them, not the linux devs, kthx :)
[10:48] <dedi> zerokill88: shrink linux and create a new ntfs partition
[10:48] <hexstar> zerokill88: no, just shrink the linux partition so tehre's room for another partition...you just shrink the partition, don't format the partition
[10:48] <BobbyBuntu> mz--: Wired at the mo ;) ... but it works for Open/WEP encrypted networks
[10:48] <zerokill88> ok
[10:48] <NETWizz> Too bad
[10:49] <NETWizz> had they been open source, it would help the linux world
[10:49] <Jack_Sparrow> zerokill88: Leave it as unallocated space...
[10:49] <mz--> BobbyBuntu: what card?  manufacturer / model / version?
[10:49] <zerokill88> ok
[10:49] <BobbyBuntu> mz--: Remind me of the command to check?
[10:49] <hexstar> NETWizz: someone mentioned you can extract the driver source from the driver archive
[10:49] <BobbyBuntu> iwconifg or someting right... :/
[10:49] <umop-apisdn> NETWizz: yeah, but they're not interested in helping us, so much as lining their pockets with that green paper stuff
[10:49] <whta> anyone have success setting up dual monitors with ati drivers?
[10:49] <Anlar> umop-apisdn: it is not ati's or nvidia's decision to keep the mclosed
[10:49] <zerokill88> once ive done that, i install windows on that partition then run the ubuntu live cd?
[10:49] <Jack_Sparrow> hexstar: fwcutter
[10:49] <mz--> BobbyBuntu: uhh, i was thinking, find the box that it came with :]   hold, ill try to dig up a cmd
[10:49] <umop-apisdn> NETWizz: and if you think about it... can you blame them
[10:49] <umop-apisdn> ?
[10:49] <zerokill88> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:49] <umop-apisdn> Anlar: how do you figure?
[10:50] <mz--> BobbyBuntu: is it a built in, pci, or usb adapter?
[10:50] <hexstar> zerokill88: once you've shrunk the partition, run the installer...in the blue text mode it'll ask about partitioning, select the freespace option and make it ntfs
[10:50] <BobbyBuntu> mz--: The box is long gone! .... it's a 3com PCMCIA card...
[10:50] <hexstar> zerokill88: do NOT select any partitions it list, it'll probably list the linux ones as unknown
[10:50] <Anlar> umop-apisdn: they do not own the intellectual rights to a lot of that stuff. including a lot of code made by others, patents, and other licensed technology. thus they are completely unable to open source them, likely for years
[10:50] <dedi> hm where can i set the eth0 MTU permanently?
[10:50] <hexstar> dedi: why would you do that?
[10:50] <umop-apisdn> Anlar: i hadn't considered that aspect. thanks for the input :)
[10:50] <BobbyBuntu> mz--: Office connect - model 3CRGPC10075
[10:50] <zerokill88> hexstar i dont understand
[10:51] <zerokill88> hexstar i dont understand, what partitions then do i use
[10:51] <dedi> hexstar: i have pppoe broadband, so i want 1492. otherwise my router gets overloaded
[10:51] <shinynew> I have found what I was looking for, it is this http://kai.vm.bytemark.co.uk/~arashi/wmsystray/
[10:51] <umop-apisdn> zerokill88: he wants you to select unused space, probably created when you resized the partition in his earlier instructions
[10:51] <Anlar> umop-apisdn: besides, their drivers would work perfectly if the linux kernel developers stopped their vendetta against stable kernel ABIs and closed source.. it's not justifiable to put in real developing resources to linux drivers before the kernel really supports it
[10:52] <zerokill88> ah ok i see
[10:52] <zerokill88> use ununsed space
[10:52] <hexstar> zerokill88: The installer makes the partition. You're shrinking the partition to make room for another because right now the linux partition is made to use your whole drive and partitions can't overlap each other. When you run the windows installer it'll see the freespace and allow you to select it, it'll be something like <free space>, select it and it'll ask you what format, select ntfs and press enter and it'll make the windows pa
[10:52] <St3a1tH> hello everyone
[10:52] <mz--> BobbyBuntu: ok, thet card is WPA suppoted(as far as i can tell).  hold a sec.
[10:52] <JayRoe> Can someone help me remove the gnome panels on my tv-out x screen
[10:52] <Anlar> umop-apisdn: likely the "linux driver team" consists of 1-2 people in total both in nvidia and in ati, for that reason
[10:52] <zerokill88> ok
[10:52] <umop-apisdn> Anlar: i can certainly understand that... it's kinda like an inter-departmental tantrum, except it's inter-corporational.. sorta
[10:52] <BobbyBuntu> mz: yeah, just dmesg after reinserting and it seems so
[10:52] <zerokill88> now to save grub?
[10:53] <doyley> i dont understand why ubuntu wont see my epson printer . pretty stupid question i know lol
[10:53] <umop-apisdn> "make things difficult for 8me*, willya? see if you like *this*?!?"
[10:53] <gumjo> hello, what are the requirements for compiz optimal performance?
[10:53] <umop-apisdn> gumjo: #compiz-fusion
[10:53] <hexstar> zerokill88: use the http://highlandsun.com/hyc/linuxboot.html link to multiboot windows and linux using the windows bootloader, that'll be easier since windows will overwrite the linux grub bootloader with its own
[10:53] <St3a1tH> could anyoe help me ? I would like to know  why i can not connect to any irc server except irc.ubuntu.com in BitchX for ubuntu
[10:53] <Anlar> umop-apisdn: yeah well, that's exactly what happens.
[10:53] <m11> is there some tool for ubuntu like kde kiosk tool ?
[10:53] <mz--> BobbyBuntu: have you read the WPA documentation on the ndiswrapper website?
[10:54] <umop-apisdn> St3a1tH: /connect irc.server.you.want:6667
[10:54] <zerokill88> hexstar ok, can i run and usr gparted right now? while using the comp?
[10:54] <umop-apisdn> Anlar: i can totally see that
[10:54] <St3a1tH> umop-apisdn  This command is for network staff only
[10:54] <umop-apisdn> St3a1tH: have you read the bitchx docs yet?
[10:55] <mz--> TOO LAME TO READ BITCHX.doc
[10:55] <Thorrn4> Hello, Im using Simply Mepis and Im trying to install Rhythmbox 0.10 from source and its asking for a package that isnt in the repos - "gnome-vfs-2.0" does that mean I cant do it?
[10:55] <hexstar> zerokill88: yes
[10:55] <St3a1tH> umop-apisdn i use BitchX for a long time
[10:55] <St3a1tH> the problem is
[10:55] <mustang97> Having a problem installing jdk-1_5_0_12-linux-i586.rpm.bin   Anyone know if theres a bug or extra stuff I need to install to get this installed?
[10:55] <zerokill88> hexstar ok but do i have to unmount first, becuase i cant resize
[10:55] <BobbyBuntu> mz--: pm ok?
[10:55] <umop-apisdn> St3a1tH: try using bitchx, instead of bitchx-gnome
[10:55] <Dj-avu> Media change: please insert the disc labeled      <<< how to apt-get without insert the cd
[10:55] <Flannel> mustang97: don't use that.  Use the java in the repositories
[10:55] <St3a1tH>           directory
[10:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Thorrn4: Ask in Mepis.. and good luck with that..
[10:55] <taime1> Thorn4: try the mepis channel
[10:55] <Anthony_> Okay, I've installed the ATI drivers, now how do I enable 1900x1200 resolution?
[10:55] <Thorrn4> Jacek_Kendysz, is there a way to download all of the dependencies first?
[10:55] <Thorrn4> Jack_Sparrow,  is there a way to download all of the dependencies first?
[10:55] <mustang97> Which would be?  I've been trying to find any commands to get it running.
[10:56] <hexstar> zerokill88: Oh wait you do have to have the root drive unmounted to resize it, so you'll have to do this from the live cd
[10:56] <Thorrn4> sorry Jacek_Kendysz
[10:56] <Flannel> !java | mustang97
[10:56] <ubotu> mustang97: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:56] <mz--> BobbyBuntu: join channel mz--
[10:56] <umop-apisdn> mustang97: open synaptic, and use the search function to find the jdk... install from there, it'll grab all the dependencies for you, too
[10:56] <taime1> Anthony_: you know how to use a terminal?
[10:56] <zerokill88> hexstar oh ok
[10:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !rpm > mustang97
[10:57] <mustang97> I figured out the rpm .. got that installed
[10:57] <Anthony_> barely
[10:57] <St3a1tH> i tried as always /server anyserverhere , but i always get Unable to connect to port 6667 of server irc.brasnet.org: No such file or Directory
[10:57] <lashmoov1> what's the compiz fusion room?
[10:57] <St3a1tH> any server i try i always get no such file or directory
[10:57] <Studiosus> mustang97 - rpm is bad, since it's not managed by apt-get, use ubuntu package
[10:57] <zerokill88> hexstar but wont this work also, the Perserving windows bootloader step    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:57] <razor950> hmm in beryl the cube worked fine using the scroll button but on compiz it doesnt seem to work even tho its enable(I deleted beryl after finding out compiz took over)
[10:58] <hexstar> zerokill88: yes that'll work actually and should be done
[10:58] <hexstar> zerokill88: good catchy
[10:58] <hexstar> *catch
[10:58] <mustang97> What is the Multiverse repository?    Thats the whoe reason for me installed jdk   I am hosting a multiverse server.
[10:58] <taime1> Anthony_: okay, well open one and copy and paste this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:58] <zerokill88> hexstar ok thanks, eh it wasnt me someone gave me that link :) thank for all the help guys
[10:58] <taime1> Anthony_: actually, did you say you already installed the drivers?
[10:59] <hexstar> zerokill88: np :)
[10:59] <ieee802> hi i'm having some problems with alsa i have a realtek high definition
[10:59] <Anthony_> taime1: yeah i already installed the ATI drivers
[10:59] <Anthony_> taime1: from the restricted drivers manager or what not
[10:59] <ieee802> when i listen to some music or use some games i hear some noises
[10:59] <johansja> is there any easy way to print booklet in ubuntu?
[10:59] <ieee802> is there a way to get it to work?
[10:59] <taime1> Anthony_: hmm... then you should be able to just restart x and then you will have higher resolutions... do this by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:59] <zerokill88> ok here goes nothing
[10:59] <hexstar> johansja: do you mean print pdf?
[11:00] <johansja> just anything
[11:00] <Anthony_> taime1: i did that, it didnt work
[11:00] <hexstar> johansja: yes, File>Print in applications
[11:00] <NETWizz> What is mesa3d driver
[11:00] <NETWizz> Why is that installed with Fiesty
[11:00] <NETWizz> on my friends computer
[11:00] <hexstar> NETWizz: that is a core 3d driver, don't mess with it :P
[11:00] <St3a1tH> no ideas about BitchX ?
[11:00] <NETWizz> What>
[11:00] <Anthony_> taime1: i have more Resolutions available to choose, but just not 1900x1200
[11:01] <NETWizz> Why not nvidia
[11:01] <Dj-avu> Media change: please insert the disc labeled      <<< how to apt-get without insert the cd
[11:01] <NETWizz> he runs mesa?
[11:01] <taime1> Anthony_: you need to uninstall that ati driver
[11:01] <hexstar> NETWizz: beryl depends on that
[11:01] <akos>  hello! I've just installed compiz-fusion on ubuntu fiesty, but when i run compiz --replace, the screen turns white... The effects work okay, but the contents are white... ( I know i should have asked this in ubuntu-effects, but nobody answers there :( )
[11:01] <creatoun> where is the package repo on the web?
[11:01] <NETWizz> can he install nvidia
[11:01] <taime1> Anthony_: then restart. when you have done this, let me know
[11:01] <NETWizz> instead of mesa?
[11:01] <St3a1tH> akos What is yout video card ?
[11:01] <johansja> hexstar: are you sure?
[11:01] <johansja> cause i can't see any of it
[11:01] <creatoun> where's the package repo on the web?
[11:01] <hexstar> NETWizz: mesa is not a video driver, it is software for 3d rendering that beryl uses
[11:01] <akos> St3a1tH, nvidia geforce 8600 gs (and I have the drivers installed)
[11:02] <hexstar> johansja: what app are you in?
[11:02] <NETWizz> why does it show up in glxinfo
[11:02] <NETWizz> so he is using generic nv driver with mesa3d?
[11:02] <hexstar> NETWizz: because it is used for 3d rendering, many 3d rendering systems I imagine depend on it
[11:02] <jonatan> NETWizz: because it is an OpenGL implementation
[11:02] <johansja> hexstar: well, i am wondering if there is any program in ubuntu that mimics fineprint?
[11:03] <hexstar> NETWizz: mesa3d is like the kernel for opengl and such systems
[11:03] <`eric-> !svideo
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svideo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <ambercromby> can anyone help me with a font issue?
[11:03] <hexstar> NETWizz: it isn't a video driver, no matter what video driver you use as long as the card can suport 3d rendering mesa3d will still be there and working
[11:03] <dedi> someone knows the name of a xterm to start it?
[11:03] <jbr> dont ask toask ask
[11:03] <rodserling> hello
[11:03] <hexstar> dedi: Konsole?
[11:03] <jonatan> NETWizz: OpenGL just works that way, it doesn't really care if the implementation is in software or hardware
[11:03] <St3a1tH> akos answer the pvt
[11:03] <St3a1tH> ;p
[11:04] <mz--> hi.  for some reason, i cannot su from one user to another.  however, if i log in as root, i can su with no problems.  is there a way to trace down the issue?  something in the passwd file perhaps?
[11:04] <jbr> dont ask to ask ask ambercromby
[11:04] <rodserling> how do i get the users list to stay on the side on xchat?
[11:04] <akos> St3a1tH, oh wait... i'm not logged in :))
[11:04] <Anthony_> taime1: ive uninstalled the ATI driver
[11:04] <IceLink> thanks, hexstar, i reconfigured x and it works now
[11:04] <hexstar> IceLink: np :)
[11:04] <taime1> Anthony_: okay, well open a terminal and copy and paste this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:05] <nikin> mz--: root login is not a good idea, i think, but you know ... hat error message do you get when trying to su?
[11:05] <mz--> nikin: let me screen this, and i'll paste it verbatim.
[11:05] <hexstar> nikin: oh, so that's why they have the bomb as the wallpaper when logged in as root? :D
[11:05] <taime1> Anthony_: follow the instructions and use the ati driver for now... when you are asked what resolutions you want to use, make sure the ones you want are selected
[11:05] <dedi> hexstar: yeah i have only my desktop left. no panels, no consoles via ctrl-altfx :))
[11:05] <taime1> Anthony_: let me know when you have completed that
[11:05] <mz--> nikin: su: authentication failure (newline) sorry.
[11:05] <mustang97> Okay,  I just read that site.   I have already installed Java5 but hweres the deal.  I need  JDK installed to run a Multiverse Server.   I then have to create a symbolic link using ln -s /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_11/bin/java java    but cant do so due to I cant get the darn jdk installed
[11:05] <hexstar> dedi: what did you do? o_O
[11:05] <ambercromby> I moved a website to Ubuntu and many character don't show correctly. I get '?' where quotes go. also if I'm SSH'd in the man pages don't show correct font characters
[11:05] <mustang97> Any help?
[11:06] <jmachado> I have just installed network-manager-openvpn plugin but there is no vpn connection available in network-manager. Can someone help me with that?
[11:06] <nikin> mz--: is this a new issue, or su never worked?
[11:06] <hexstar> !vpn
[11:06] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[11:06] <dedi> added some apps to start with the session manager and now my panels get nuked every login :>
[11:06] <St3a1tH> akos where are you ?
[11:06] <hexstar> dedi: woah lol
[11:07] <mz--> nikin: new issue.  i came home last night to find my machine hung, now su does not work, non-root users cannot activate wireless (wpasupplicant no longer works), and devices (usbdisks/optical media) are no longer automounted.  im not sure if they are symptoms of hte same problem or not.
[11:07] <jmachado> my problem isn't with vpn
[11:07] <dedi> hexstar: i always have such strange things. have to be my destiny :)
[11:07] <hexstar> mz--: have you done a fsck?
[11:07] <MFen> is there a way to set up feisty-backports, such that i install only a single package (or some list of them) instead of all of them?
[11:07] <mz--> hexstar: yes.
[11:07] <hexstar> dedi: hehe
[11:07] <axos88> St3a1tH, are you getting my pms?
[11:07] <jmachado> it is with network-manager not showing the vpn plugin i just installed
[11:07] <citronbleu-v> il y a pas un logiciel pour repartission une partission ?
[11:07] <dedi> hexstar: can you give me the full path to a konsole?
[11:08] <hexstar> uh..
[11:08] <citronbleu-v> mais sans utiliser le cdlive
[11:08] <nikin> mz-- did you check which groups your user is part of?
[11:08] <hexstar> dedi: can you do a ctrl+alt+fx?
[11:08] <hexstar> you should be able to, that's a core kernel function I think
[11:08] <stefg> !fr | citronbleu-v
[11:08] <ubotu> citronbleu-v: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:08] <dystopianray> MFen: download the deb and install it
[11:08] <`eric-> any one have any experience w/ using svideo out to a TV with nvidia?
[11:08] <superkirbyartist> How do I share a folder with Windows users on the network?
[11:08] <citronbleu-v> sorry
[11:08] <mz--> nikin: yes.  presently, visudo is configured to allow any user to su to root.  user is set to all appropriate groups (nothing has changed for months,during which time i was su-ing happily)
[11:09] <`eric-> superkirbyartist: you don't
[11:09] <MFen> eh, never mind, the package i want isn't even there
[11:09] <hexstar> dedi: do that and then login and then do a locate konsole
[11:09] <dystopianray> superkirbyartist: use samba
[11:09] <`eric-> superkirbyartist: windows users can't see linux partitions
[11:09] <dedi> hexstar: nope something with the framebuffer is weird. on booting i have a screen but after the start of x i cant go back to the console
[11:09] <St3a1tH> which package contains /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc ?
[11:09] <jbr> eric- theres a ext3 driver
[11:09] <superkirbyartist> dystopianray: Where can they find it in Vista?
[11:09] <Civik> Can anyone tell me how come i installed ubuntu and now when i boot all i get is the word GRUB and pressing any buttons doesnt work?
[11:09] <`eric-> jbr: for windows?
[11:09] <ieee802> !alsa
[11:09] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:09] <`eric-> jbr: that actually works? =P
[11:09] <jbr> yes
[11:09] <`eric-> hmm
[11:09] <jbr> yes
[11:10] <dystopianray> superkirbyartist: install samba on your linux machine, that will let you serve smb shares to windows clients
[11:10] <nikin> mz--: so your user is in the plugdev group.... hmmm and what about sudo? does that work?
[11:10] <mustang97> Noone?
[11:10] <dystopianray> !samba | superkirbyartist
[11:10] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:10] <stefg> (msg ubotu grub
[11:10] <Anthony_> taime1: im at the part where you can select the resoltions you want, except how do I select the resolution i want ?
[11:10] <mz--> nikin: sudo does not work.
[11:10] <hexstar> dedi: how can you execute commands then?
[11:10] <`eric-> anyone know how to setup svideo out (dual montirors.. one using dvi out to my lcd, svideo out to my TV) with nvidia?
[11:11] <taime1> Anthony_: arrow to it and hit spacebar to toggle
[11:11] <taime1> Anthony_: you'll see an asterix next to it when its selected
[11:11] <hexstar> dedi: if you can execute commands just try entering konsole and pressing enter, it should be in your path
[11:11] <dedi> hexstar: the only thing i can do is create a new launcher on my desktop :) so a full path to a konsole would be great :)
[11:11] <mz--> nikin: could this be an issue with /etc/passwd or /etc/group?  because i have no problem su-ing to a user from root.  only from a non-root user do i have issues
[11:11] <hexstar> dedi: ah, just try using konsole in the command field...it should work as it should be in your path
[11:11] <dedi> hexstar: doesnt work just with konsole, already tried that
[11:11] <hexstar> dedi: oh
[11:11] <dystopianray> `eric-: try using nvidia-settings
[11:12] <nikin> mz--: if you can login then passwd should be ok... the same for groups AFAIK
[11:12] <hexstar> dedi: try bash or sh...if none of that works it may be something deeper
[11:12] <hexstar> that's wrong
[11:12] <`eric-> dystopianray: i'm just wondering if it's possible... like, i've read that people have experienced mad problems in the past, and before i go buy the cable, i was wondering if anyone knows if the problems have been fixed in more recent version
[11:12] <`eric-> s
[11:12] <stefg> Civik: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/48152-grub-mbr-boot-1024-cylinder-limit.html
[11:12] <mz--> nikin: unregged, can't do pm's
[11:12] <Pie> Does anyone have any good website or tips for setting up dual booting with XP, using GRUB, and ubuntu installed fist?
[11:13] <erUSUL> !dualboot
[11:13] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[11:13] <`eric-> dystopianray: but thanks, i'm just gonna buy it... screw it :)
[11:13] <nikin> mz--: i see ... so did you try to create ew user?
[11:13] <nikin> new
[11:13] <hexstar> lol ew
[11:13] <egWK> I am trying to compile wxWidgets but when I am pressing make I get this ../include/wx/defs.h:212: error: redeclaration of C++ built-in type bool
[11:13] <egWK> ../include/wx/module.h:101: fatal error: opening dependency file .deps/_pch_wxprec_basedll_wx_wxprec_h_gch.d: Permission denied
[11:13] <egWK> compilation terminated.
[11:13] <egWK> make: *** [.pch/wxprec_basedll/wx/wxprec.h.gch]  Error 1
[11:13] <dedi> hexstar: doesnt work either. you could help me with -> menu -> terminal right click - add to panel. on the panel you can make propierties and paste the command line for the terminal.
[11:13] <Pie> That's with XP installed first
[11:14] <hexstar> dedi: unfortunately I'm not actually running ubuntu but mac os x right now, don't have a ubuntu install with me.
[11:14] <Anthony_> taime1: after that i restart x?
[11:14] <ambercromby> where can I change the default ascii encoder for one that supports extended ascii
[11:14] <maxb__> !gutsy
[11:14] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[11:14] <dedi> hexstar: ohh ok ok :) thanks anyway
[11:14] <hexstar> but try /usr/lib/kde4/bin/konsole
[11:14] <nomad> hey, ust a little question: do have anybody installed eclipse and wants me to send the eclipse pictures in /usr/share/pixmaps?
[11:14] <taime1> Anthony_: yes... then let me know when you have done that, we arent quite finished
[11:15] <EADG_> Looks like no page in irssi.
[11:15] <nikin> mz--: bytheay that wireless and the removable device issue.. can be the problems of groups maybe... it is worth to check it out
[11:15] <Anthony_> taime1: alright, i have 1920x1200 res working now, what else? thankyou so much btw
[11:16] <creatoun> hi.  question.  could new users sudo apt-get?
[11:16] <stefg> !away | leo_damasceno_
[11:16] <ubotu> leo_damasceno_: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[11:16] <mz--> nikin: ok, ill look into that
[11:16] <hexstar> creatoun: not unless they come with root privs
[11:16] <dystopianray> creatoun: only if they are in the admin group
[11:16] <creatoun> the default user is user default.
[11:16] <hexstar> then I doubt it creatoun
[11:16] <taime1> Anthony_: now go back to restricted drivers, and reenable the ati driver you wanted... restart, and whala!
[11:16] <hexstar> a su will probably be required first
[11:17] <axos88> St3a1tH, are you reading this?
[11:17] <St3a1tH> Anyone there using BitchX on Ubuntu 7.04  ?
[11:17] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> so who can explain REAL slow for me.. (x windows user ).... thats why you have to type slow... can one get into a yahoo chat room with voice..
[11:17] <hexstar> !bitchx
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitchx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: I think gaim can do that
[11:18] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar :gain dont have chat options i have looked
[11:18] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php
[11:18] <Anthony_> taime1: asdf THANKYOU so much for your time :).
[11:18] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: for ubuntu?
[11:18] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: yes it should work on ubuntu
[11:18] <taime1> Anthony_: no problem at all
[11:18] <St3a1tH> how do i fix this warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory ? any apt i do i get this
[11:19] <axos88> St3a1tH, read pr
[11:19] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: use this for ubuntu: http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yahoo.com/dl/unix/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[11:19] <axos88> St3a1tH, read prv
[11:19] <St3a1tH> axos88 i got no pvt
[11:19] <axos88> St3a1tH, I'm akos from before, but this is my registered nick
[11:19] <axos88> St3a1tH, When I run compiz, my screen turns white... But if I use any of the effects, it works okay, (but all thumbnails are white also...) So The 3D acceleration works okay... but what isn't?
[11:19] <dedi> hexstar:  found a workaround: putty localhost :))
[11:19] <hexstar> dedi: ah :D
[11:20] <JayRoe> is it possible to move the mouse curser to a fixed position using the terminal?
[11:20] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar... dependency is not satisfiable: libssl0.9.6
[11:20] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: apt-cache search lbssl, find libssl package name and then do apt-get install packagename
[11:21] <axos88> St3a1tH, join #axos88
[11:21] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> kk ty
[11:21] <zerokill88> hexstar?
[11:21] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: np :)
[11:21] <hexstar> zerokill88: yeah?
[11:21] <x_> hello everybody ... i got BIG problem , after change screen resolution in nvidia-settings in Terminal , everything is ok BUT after restart my resolution comeback to old settings , what should i do ?!
[11:21] <zerokill88> hexstar ok kool. i loaded up hte livecd and tried using gparted but i couldnt resize, it said i was mounted to the harddrive i believe
[11:21] <stefg> !fixres | x_
[11:21] <ubotu> x_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:22] <hexstar> zerokill88: Oh, well then open a terminal and do a umount /dev/drivename
[11:22] <SexyBoBo> I need help with my audio. i am using a coaxil connection from my pc to my stereo and it works great but when i launch a game i get no sound
[11:22] <zerokill88> hexstar ok, how do i determine what drive im on
[11:22] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: typed that in and it just went back to the next cmd line
[11:22] <zerokill88> hexstar what command
[11:22] <hexstar> zerokill88: Ok, right now you're in your real linux install right?
[11:23] <zerokill88> hexstar ya becuase my irc on live wasnt working
[11:23] <x_> stefg    thanks but i can't undrestanding it  :-( can u tell me short way ?!
[11:23] <hexstar> zerokill88: Ok, so open a terminal. Then type df -h, look for / in the mounted on column, then in that column look to the far left and that is the name of the root drive
[11:23] <hexstar> it'll be /dev/something
[11:24] <zerokill88> hexstar got it its sda1
[11:24] <hexstar> zerokill88: ok :)
[11:24] <Civik> Can anyone tell me how to fix my problem : i installed ubuntu on a seperate hdd from windows and install went perfect, except that when i load my system all it says is GRUB and i cant press any buttons to get passed it, can anyone help me fix this problem so i can get grub working to use windows and ubuntu??
[11:24] <zerokill88> hexstar kool thanks so livecd mounts the harddrive automatically
[11:24] <hexstar> zerokill88: yeah, so before using gparted open a terminal and do a umount /dev/sda1
[11:24] <hexstar> you might have to su first before doing that though
[11:24] <zerokill88> hexstar k thnaks alot. here i go again :)
[11:24] <hexstar> root should be something like root
[11:25] <dystopianray> Civik: it should tell you to press 'esc' or something similar to bring up a menu
[11:25] <hexstar> zerokill88: np :)
[11:25] <Civik> All it says is GRUB
[11:25] <x_> everyone is GOOD to help me about Nvidia 7900 GTX ?!!!!
[11:25] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: you opened a can of worms here.. lol that command you gave me just put me back to a flashing cursor...
[11:25] <JayRoe> is there a command or program that allows me to move the cursor to a fixed position?
[11:25] <Civik> dystopianray, then if i try to boot off the hdd first that has ubuntu i get Error loading operating system
[11:25] <dystopianray> x_: what exactly do you want to do?
[11:25] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: the apt-cache command?
[11:26] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: ya that one
[11:26] <dystopianray> Civik: you should be able to press esc to bring up the grub menu
[11:26] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: what if you just do ssl instead of libssl?
[11:26] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> one sec
[11:26] <hexstar> it might be the case that libssl isn't in the ubuntu repositories...
[11:26] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> OH YA
[11:26] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> there it is
[11:26] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: :D
[11:27] <x_> dystopinanray    after change resolution in nvidia-settings  command in terminal , after restart all settings back to old stile  :-(
[11:27] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ty
[11:27] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: np :)
[11:27] <Civik> dystopianray, esc doesnt work, enter doesnt work
[11:27] <stefg> Civik: how did you manage to boot then and connect to irc?
[11:27] <dystopianray> x_: what exactly do you want to do with your resolution?
[11:27] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Oh dont worry hexstar.. i will be back haha
[11:27] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: ok, I'll be hre :)
[11:27] <hexstar> *here
[11:27] <Civik> stefg, im on a seperate pc
[11:28] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Just for the record hexstar:: if this works for me.. i will pay pall you 50 bucks
[11:28] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: heh that'd be nice :)
[11:28] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> lol mark my words..
[11:28] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> lol
[11:28] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> brb
[11:28] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: lol ok
[11:28] <stefg> Civik: did you install to a removable disk? how old is the bios of the machine in question?
[11:28] <axos88> St3a1tH,
[11:28] <x_> dystopianray    i changing resolutin from 1240 to 1680 and then after restart my resolution come back to 1240 ..   how i can fix that ?!
[11:29] <dystopianray> x_: run this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:29] <andresmujica> hi, my ubuntu always starts my session with the volume muted... no matter if i put the right volume.. every time i start the session it goes mute
[11:29] <hexstar> x_: you could change the resolution order in the xconf file
[11:29] <NETWizz> GeForce4 420 Go 32M
[11:29] <dystopianray> x_: select the resolutions you want and the 'nvidia' driver, then restart
[11:29] <NETWizz> Will taht need nvidia or the legacy
[11:30] <hexstar> NETWizz: Try running the newest, I have found that the installer will tell you waht the card needs if it's not the right installer
[11:30] <stefg> !info nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:30] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+2.6.20.5-16.29 (feisty), package size 2992 kB, installed size 9780 kB
[11:30] <stefg> NETWizz: no, not legacy
[11:30] <x_> dystopianray ... that command was unknown too terminal  :-(
[11:30] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: there is no  0.9.6.. . but there is a  libssl0.9.7 - SSL shared libraries   and a libssl0.9.7-dbg - Symbol tables for libssl and libcrypt
[11:31] <dystopianray> x_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:31] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: those should work, that error usually means 0.9.6 =>
[11:31] <hexstar> er >=
[11:31] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar.. so you say i should get them both?
[11:31] <mustang97> So noone knows how to install jdk.  I dont need the automated wannabe help crap.   I have certain reasons for installing jdk and I have errors I can post them. but I need to get it installed!
[11:31] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: yeah
[11:31] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ok one more fav
[11:31] <NETWizz> @dystropinaray
[11:31] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: ok
[11:31] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> whats the cmd to get them do i dont have to think
[11:31] <NETWizz> that command is in the xorg.conf file near the end
[11:31] <NETWizz> copy it to clipboard :-0)
[11:32] <Civik> stefg, removable disk ? no i installed it on a harddrive in the machine, the bios shouldnt be too old, i bought this pc last year in september
[11:32] <SexyBoBo> i need help
[11:32] <x_> dystopianray    that command didn't worked too
[11:32] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: apt-get install packagename packagename1
[11:32] <dystopianray> mustang97: which jdk do you want?
[11:32] <hexstar> you can do two packages or more at once
[11:32] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ty
[11:32] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: np :)
[11:32] <dystopianray> x_: it should
[11:32] <dystopianray> x_: what is the error?
[11:32] <x_> hexstar  what u mean ?!
[11:32] <mustang97> It calles for in the doc to insall jdk-1_5_0_11-linux-i586-rpm.bin    but I would assume that was just the one that was out when it was written.   I have tried update 12 and get same erorrs
[11:33] <stefg> Civik: are you near that nonbootable machine? you need to enter commands athe grub> prompt
[11:33] <hexstar> x_: what?
[11:33] <dystopianray> mustang97: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[11:33] <mustang97> Done that.  but when I do the symbolic link it wont work.
[11:33] <System79> Hello, can someone help me? I have a problem with my NVIDIA drivers >.>
[11:33] <Flannel> mustang97: You shouldn't need to do any symbolic links
[11:33] <hexstar> System79: what's wrong?
[11:33] <dystopianray> mustang97: it should 'just work'
[11:34] <mustang97> I need it for what I am trying to accomplish
[11:34] <St3a1tH> well , i fixed the bitchx problem to connect to other servers , i have to ln -s /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/ /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc .... so if  anyone else has the same problem in the future , that is the solution
[11:34] <Civik> stefg, yes im right beside it
[11:34] <System79> hexstar: The drivers from www.nvidia.com killed my X server
[11:34] <x_> dystopianray   oops ... that worked now ... i can't undrestand anything about that setting ... i'm new in linux
[11:34] <mustang97> I am trying to install a Multiverse Server.  It needs the jdk / symbolic link
[11:34] <dystopianray> mustang97: what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:34] <dystopianray> System79: you can't use the nvidia drivers from the repos?
[11:34] <Flannel> mustang97: a 'multiverse server'?
[11:34] <hexstar> System79: did you opt to run the config program when the install was done?
[11:34] <stefg> Civik: so boot it and get to grub>
[11:34] <mustang97> Are you familur with this?  Or would you like to see the link to the site that shows how to install?
[11:34] <mustang97> Yes.   I know its a repository nameing..  but its also something else.
[11:35] <System79> hexstar: Yes i did am i supposed not so :$
[11:35] <Civik> stefg, there is no GRUB> it just says GRUB without the >
[11:35] <hexstar> System79: no that's good
[11:35] <mustang97> Multiverser is a type of development gaming server.  for game makers and what not.
[11:35] <andresmujica>  hi, my ubuntu always starts my session with the volume muted... no matter if i put the right volume.. every time i start the session it goes mute
[11:35] <System79> hexstar: It can not load the correct module at least thats what it debugs
[11:35] <stefg> Civik: ok, i see. so boot the Ubuntu-Live CD on that machine
[11:35] <x_> hexstar    u told me about change the resolution order in the xconf file ... i'm new in linux ... i can't undrestand it   ... is that any command line in terminal can fix that problem ?!
[11:35] <mustang97> Shall I post the link so you can see what  i am talking about?
[11:35] <Civik> stefg, ok one sec
[11:36] <hexstar> x_: oh, you should do that other sudo dpkg command given to you earlier
[11:36] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> sorry to bug hexstar... take your time... ( i typed this in ) apt-get install libssl0.9.7-ssl  and i got this (E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:36] <System79> Vsop
[11:36] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ya
[11:36] <dystopianray> x_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:36] <System79> use SUDO apt-get install libssl0.9.7-ssl
[11:36] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: oh, you have to do su before the command
[11:36] <Bobothn> i am getting this error in a game "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"
[11:36] <System79> always Sudo or su before it
[11:36] <hexstar> er sudo
[11:36] <stefg> Civik: do you have net access from the Live CD? that would make things *much* easier. i need you to paste some info from that box
[11:36] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> meh i thought i was in the root term
[11:37] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> my bad
[11:37] <limteer> I am connecting my Winxp FreeNX client to Feisty, why is it so low? any suggestions?
[11:37] <JayRoe> xwit warp
[11:37] <System79> hexstart: Can you tell me the standard driver that is loaded with ubuntu if i dont use the nvidia drivers? or dont you have that info?
[11:37] <hexstar> System79: I believe it's nv
[11:38] <Civik> stefg, i have start or install ubuntu, start in safe graphics mode, install with drive update cd, check cd for defects, memory test, and boot from hard disk in the menu
[11:38] <Veen> !irc
[11:38] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[11:38] <elpepa> hi thar
[11:38] <stefg> Civik: just start it, as you've done before
[11:38] <panfist> can anyone please help me figure out how to get samba working, i can't access shared folders of other computers on the network.
[11:38] <System79> hexstar: Do you know what /dev/input/wacom is used for? it cant find that directory..
[11:38] <elpepa> I am trying to dual boot Win+Ubuntu, I screwed it up but could fix it thanks to the FAQ
[11:38] <hexstar> panfist: are you on the same workgroup?
[11:38] <Civik> stefg, so im goign into ubuntu then correct?
[11:38] <hexstar> System79: sorry no, do you have any wacom devices?
[11:39] <elpepa> can anyone help me installing Win without screwing it up again?
[11:39] <panfist> hexstar: i have a domain server on my network
[11:39] <System79> hexstar: None at all
[11:39] <stefg> Civik: correct. you'll need the Live CD environment
[11:39] <zerokill88> hexstar still no luck, it looks like theres no command for unmount and it didnt look like i was mounted to it either, and there might me some uncorrected codes on /hda but im on /hdsa1
[11:39] <Civik> stefg, ok im going in now
[11:39] <compengi> elpepa, you mean windows?
[11:39] <sparkay> hi,, i just installed the latest alpha, but when it starts up, after login, i only get an orange screen with a cursor but nothing happens
[11:39] <elpepa> compengi: yes
[11:39] <limteer> Can anyone help me with FreeNx connections from Winxp to Ubuntu 7.04?
[11:39] <godsyn> HELP : How do i connect to a windows share, and list/use the files? The samba share (on an XP machine) is set to full read to guests. I have samba installed (on the "client" fiesty box), and can list the shares (smbtree), but have no clue what to do next.
[11:39] <dystopianray> sparkay: #ubuntu+1
[11:39] <stefg> !gutsy | sparkay
[11:39] <ubotu> sparkay: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[11:39] <hexstar> panfist: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Linux_Networking/Q_20765134.html
[11:39] <olafr92> can you help me??
[11:40] <godsyn> !samba
[11:40] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:40] <panfist> hexstar: thank you
[11:40] <TheMafia> If both my switch and and NIC say I am connected at 100 FD what might cause only 5 mb throughput?
[11:40] <hexstar> oops panfist I meant: http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:fVTNC39Vy7sJ:www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Linux_Networking/Q_20765134.html+linux+login+domain&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
[11:40] <noodles12> j #networking
[11:40] <TheMafia> bad patch cable I guess, but wouldn't I see errors?
[11:40] <mustang97> Okay, love the help.
[11:40] <hexstar> (you can't view rthe answers otherwise)
[11:40] <DigitalNinja> Does anyone have any thoughts on Webmin? Good, Bad etc...
[11:40] <System79> hexstar: Couldd you upload your xorg.conf or could someone else maybe so i can fix this up?
[11:40] <Bobothn> Could some one please help i getting this error when i try to play a game /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[11:40] <Bobothn> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[11:40] <compengi> elpepa, it's easy.. the only thing that you should remember is that you need to install windows before installing ubuntu because windows will kill ubunut's startup
[11:40] <elpepa> godsyn: you have to connect to the shares using your windows network credentials
[11:40] <hexstar> System79: Run the live cd and copy its x conf from the ramdisk
[11:40] <System79> hexstar: Ok ill try that.
[11:41] <hexstar> System79: :)
[11:41] <hexstar> System79: / is the ramdisk on the live cd
[11:41] <elpepa> compengi: I knew that!! It's just I got rid of windoze and thought I never had to install it again
[11:41] <x_> dystopianray  thanks for command ... that was good .. i should see it working after restart or not ;-)
[11:41] <sparkay> i dont think its linked to the alpha :x
[11:41] <System79> hexstar: Ill figure it out from here thanks for the help ;)
[11:41] <hexstar> System79: np
[11:41] <System79> Btw no1 ever use irssi it stinks :)
[11:41] <x_> hexstar  thanks for help  :-)
[11:41] <hexstar> x_: np :)
[11:42] <elpepa> but now I have to install it and I'm not sure how to do it without breaking grub
[11:42] <hexstar> Copying the x from the live cd when the x conf goes bad is a great tip in emergencies
[11:42] <hexstar> *conf
[11:42] <stefg> !grub | elpepa
[11:42] <ubotu> elpepa: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:42] <julienb> hi
[11:42] <Trashcan> installing ubuntu 7.* server edition, at 6% of retrieving packages its starting to say every single package is corrupt
[11:42] <Trashcan> anyone run into that?
[11:42] <julienb> im logged on ubuntu right now, my pc's default booting os, but i need to make winxp my default os for an exhibition... could anyone tell/help me to do it (im slowly learning linux)
[11:42] <hexstar> Trashcan: is your network connection secure?
[11:42] <stefg> !verify | Trashcan
[11:42] <ubotu> Trashcan: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:42] <hexstar> Trashcan: router/hub overheating?
[11:42] <godsyn> elpepa: how do i specify a space in a directory or filename in linux? (the share has a space in it, in windows I just encapsulate it with 's )
[11:43] <x_> wich media player can play WMA and RM formats ?! i need it fot some radio channels
[11:43] <sparkay> Please, someone help! Gnome doesnt start up :s
[11:43] <elpepa> stefg: thanks for that, fortunately, I read that and I could bring my ubuntu back to life
[11:43] <hexstar> x_: you have to install wcodec32
[11:43] <johny5> Can anyone help me with a Grub Error 15 on a Raid 1 machine?  It's a fresh install
[11:43] <astro76> godsyn, "like this" or like\ this
[11:43] <hexstar> er wincodec32...something like taht
[11:43] <hexstar> *that
[11:43] <x_> hexstar   how my dear friend ?!!!!!
[11:43] <elpepa> but now I dunno how to install win on a different disk without breaking grub again
[11:43] <Civik> stefg, ok im in now what
[11:43] <Trashcan> a, stefg, so you think my iso is corrupt? i thought its retrieving these over the web
[11:43] <godsyn> astro76: thanks
[11:43] <hexstar> x_: apt-get install package name (su before apt-get!)
[11:43] <elpepa> godsyn: use "\\server\share with spaces"
[11:44] <hexstar> er packagename, no spaces
[11:44] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ya dont make the misstake i did
[11:44] <harrison> any help getting my Epson R300 to print? it fails the test page, and I'm not sure the driver works correctly
[11:44] <limteer> is there anyone here using FreeNX?
[11:44] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> lol
[11:44] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar:: i got them both and still same error
[11:44] <x_> hexstar .. i tried linux just 16 hour ... can u tell me full command line plz ?!
[11:44] <hexstar> limteer: just use vnc
[11:45] <hexstar> anyone know the dpkg command for reconfiguring x? forgot it
[11:45] <julienb> im logged on ubuntu right now, my pc's default booting os, but i need to make winxp my default os for an exhibition... could anyone tell/help me to do it (im slowly learning linux...)
[11:45] <stefg> Civik: do you have net access from that machine?
[11:45] <Civik> stefg, yep
[11:45] <mustang97> Okay..   since noone can help with installing jdk ...  how would I do a symbolic link to the sun-java6-jdk ?
[11:45] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: Hmm....you needed libssl0.96?
[11:45] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ya
[11:45] <dystopianray> mustang97: use 'ln'
[11:45] <mustang97> Location wise?
[11:45] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar:thats what it asked for
[11:45] <mustang97> I know how to create the link
[11:45] <dystopianray> x_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:45] <krus> hi
[11:46] <x_> hexstar      u mean  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command ?!!!!
[11:46] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hestar: and of course its not in that list i got... apt-cache......
[11:46] <stefg> Civik: there is gaim, which acts as an irc client. add a new irc account and join this channel with a second nick from there
[11:46] <Civik> ok
[11:46] <dystopianray> mustang97: what exactly do you need to link to?
[11:46] <hexstar> x_: ah yes!
[11:46] <Ott1> hello I`ve got a problem I don`t know how to install a file with bin extension exactly I have downloaded GoogleEarth for Linux systems and I can`t install it
[11:47] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: hmmm...
[11:47] <astro76> Ott1, chmod +x GoogleEarthLinux.bin && sudo ./GoogleEarthLiux.bin
[11:47] <elpepa> Ott1: what happens when you execute it?
[11:47] <mustang97> Not trying to be rude but are you listening to what I tell you?    I have a site I can show you to explain it.     I need jdk for this multiverse server to work.
[11:47] <stefg> elpepa: http://freshmeat.net/projects/supergrub/
[11:47] <x_> dystopianray  how u know that too much command lines ?!!!!!!!! :-o
[11:47] <Zambezi> There is a another page similar to www.ripe.net Anyone know the adress?
[11:47] <Civik> stefg, how do i connect to a channel?
[11:47] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: and for shats n giggles i did try to get 0.9.6 and ya.. it did not work
[11:47] <mustang97> Out of the documentation it shows
[11:47] <mustang97> cd /usr/bin
[11:47] <mustang97> ln -s /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_11/bin/java java
[11:48] <dystopianray> x_: pardon?
[11:48] <mustang97> That is what I need to accomplish
[11:48] <elpepa> stefg:  I read something about that, have you tried it?
[11:48] <stefg> Civik: type /j #ubuntu
[11:48] <dystopianray> mustang97: /usr/bin/java
[11:48] <x_> dystopianray   i sad how u can remember command lines in terminal ?! it's too much
[11:49] <johny5> Anyone....Grub...Error 15....help?
[11:49] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: try http://rpmseek.com/rpm-dl/compat-openssl096g-0.9.6g-4.2.i586.html?hl=com&cx=2017:C:0:3125737:0:0:0
[11:49] <vox754> johny5, reinstall grub
[11:49] <mustang97> so thats were the jdk resides?
[11:49] <godsyn> !samba
[11:49] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:49] <stefg> johny5: http://freshmeat.net/projects/supergrub/
[11:49] <dystopianray> mustang97: the jdk doesn't reside in any one place, it is installed like any other application
[11:49] <Civik2> stefg: ok here
[11:49] <dystopianray> mustang97: the 'java' binary is in /usr/bin/
[11:50] <hexstar> you can always do a locate java in teminal
[11:50] <x_> dystopianray   i mean how i can learn command lines ?! is that some book or E.Book or something like that for it ?!
[11:50] <hexstar> *terminal
[11:50] <dystopianray> x_: there is lots of documentation available to learn command line stuff from
[11:50] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: i will go for a puff. come back fogy brain and see if that works..
[11:50] <dystopianray> x_: and there are plenty of man pages to read
[11:50] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: ok :)
[11:50] <johny5> stefg, will supergrub work with Raid1?
[11:50] <astro76> mustang97, if you installed it through apt-get it already sets up a /usr/bin/java link so it should just work
[11:50] <johny5> thanks vox754 & stefg
[11:50] <hexstar> x_: check the /bin folder and learn how to use everything there
[11:51] <stefg> Civik2: excellent. get a terminal and enter 'sudo fdisk -l' , paste the result to pastebin
[11:51] <stefg> !paste | Civik2
[11:51] <ubotu> Civik2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:51] <System79> hexstar: I got my nvidia stuff working again :)
[11:51] <hexstar> System79: great, how?
[11:51] <elpepa> anyone interested in helping me in private room?
[11:51] <IndyGunFreak> elpepa: what do you need help with?
[11:51] <abstrakt> how can i tell if the nvidia drivers have been successfully installed?
[11:51] <dystopianray> elpepa: as your question here
[11:52] <mustang97> It dont .  its not liking it.
[11:52] <mustang97>  Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: multiverse.server.engine.Engine
[11:52] <hexstar> abstrakt: does x work now?
[11:52] <abstrakt> synaptic shows the glx driver as having been installed, but my screen is still way off to the left
[11:52] <Civik2> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30725/
[11:52] <stefg> abstrakt: glxinfo | grep direct ... gotta say yes
[11:52] <mustang97> so on and so on..  I traced the error to a eror in the install of jdk
[11:52] <abstrakt> the kernel drivers are there
[11:52] <System79> hexstar: When the nvidia driver changes the xorg.conf it adds in two options that mess up X,,
[11:52] <hexstar> abstrakt: are you sure that's not a monitor setting that you have misset using the monitor panel on the monitor itself?
[11:52] <dystopianray> mustang97: why does it need a symlink anyway? 'java' is in your path
[11:52] <compengi> abstrakt, try to enable Desktop Effects
[11:52] <hexstar> System79: ah
[11:52] <System79> hexstar: And the kernel module that nvidia put in is corrupt
[11:52] <hexstar> System79: oh :(
[11:52] <NigelS> mustang97: if you just got it from apt -you wouldn't have to do any of this
[11:53] <stefg> Civik2: ok. type 'sudo grub' to the terminal
[11:53] <x_> hexstar ... thanks :-)
[11:53] <System79> hexstar: Thanks alot for helping me ;)
[11:53] <abstrakt> hexstar, i'm pretty damn sure. i've experienced this behavior many times before... iirc last time i installed the nvidia drivers my screen was no longer situated way to the left on my monitor
[11:53] <hexstar> x_: np :)
[11:53] <abstrakt> maybe it didn't fix it this time, i dunno
[11:53] <hexstar> System79: np :)
[11:53] <NigelS> mustang97: remove the one you got as an rpm, then apt-get install the jdk to change versions you use the update-alternatives --config java command
[11:53] <System79> abstrakt
[11:53] <x_> why this command didn't worked ?!  :    sudo apt-get install wcodec32
[11:53] <mustang97> apt get does a diff way then what the doc is telling.   thus the whole point of asking how to install a spacific jdk update 12
[11:53] <Civik2> stefg: probing atm, brb
[11:53] <System79> abstrakt: what is your problem?
[11:53] <hexstar> abstrakt: well you could always try using the monitor menu to move the screen over
[11:53] <NigelS> mustang97: that way you don't need to link to the binary
[11:53] <mustang97> I dont have the rpm installed. . I get eorrs trying to install it.
[11:54] <elpepa> I have two hard disks, one for Ubuntu, one empty where I plan to install WinXP. I tried to install WinXP, but after the first reboot the installation performs, I couldn't go on with that, nor boot to Ubuntu any more. I just fixed my Ubuntu so that's OK. But I wanna know how to install WinXP on that empty hard disk without breaking my Grub
[11:54] <abstrakt> hexstar, yes i know i can do that, just wondering if anyone had experienced this behavior and also wondering how to tell for sure that the glx driver is really working
[11:54] <mustang97> Step 3.
[11:54] <mustang97> Create symlink for the java executable (because the RPM didn't do so):
[11:54] <mustang97> cd /usr/bin
[11:54] <mustang97> ln -s /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_11/bin/java java
[11:54] <hexstar> mustang97: a .deb would be better
[11:54] <dystopianray> mustang97: you already have java
[11:54] <System79> elpepa
[11:54] <hexstar> abstrakt: ah ok, no I have not experienced that behavior before
[11:54] <abstrakt> aha
[11:54] <System79> elpepa: you must edit your grub configuration to boot Windows XP
[11:54] <stefg> Civik2: when it's done type 'find /boot/grub/stage1' and tell me what turned up
[11:54] <dystopianray> mustang97: your system is already setup like that
[11:55] <abstrakt> glxinfo | grep direct results in about 10 repetitions of the following message: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:55] <NigelS> dystopianray: the sun java jdk is hardly default
[11:55] <elpepa> System79: you mean editing it before starting WinXP installation?
[11:55] <mustang97> Okay, so your saying java is the same as jdk...update12
[11:55] <abstrakt> synaptic syas nvidia-glx is installed as is the nvidia-kernel module
[11:55] <IndyGunFreak> elpepa: its almost always easiest to intall Windows first.
[11:55] <Civik2> stefg: (hd0,0)
[11:55] <elpepa> IndyGunFreak: I know that, thanks.
[11:55] <abstrakt> do i have to restart or something?
[11:55] <dystopianray> NigelS:  /usr/bin/java is present by default upon installing it
[11:55] <sparkay> whats the command again to scan the available wireless connections please?
[11:55] <hexstar> abstrakt: you could try a apt-cache search glx and install all the glx packages
[11:55] <abstrakt> hexstar, wow... dude, that is such a bad idea
[11:55] <System79> elpepa: You need to install WinXP, then ubuntu or partition in ubuntu using fdisk making a windows partition
[11:56] <hexstar> abstrakt: mm?
[11:56] <Bobothn> will some one please help me with my sound problem i have asked 3 times and no one has replied to me
[11:56] <dystopianray> mustang97: the jdk is the software development kit for java
[11:56] <mustang97> exactly.  I need jdk
[11:56] <hexstar> abstrakt: it wouldn't hurt anything
[11:56] <mustang97> not just JAVA!
[11:56] <System79> Bobothn: What is your problem?
[11:56] <elpepa> System79: I alreadyu have Ubuntu installed. That's something I can't change
[11:56] <dystopianray> mustang97: did you install it from the repos?
[11:56] <abstrakt> hexstar, dude, if you don't know what you're talking about just don't say anything k?
[11:56] <Bobothn> i load a game and i get this error /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[11:56] <stefg> Civik2: ok, that's what i expected. type 'root (hd0,0)' , then setup (hd0)
[11:56] <hexstar> abstrakt: I've done it myself without issue
[11:56] <System79> Elpepa: Go in ubuntu and start up fdisk then make another partition to install windows on
[11:56] <abstrakt> hexstar, that doesn't mean it's a good idea
[11:56] <Trashcan> so, I verified my ISO and it's all good. Why might the installer be saying the packages are corrupt?
[11:56] <dystopianray> mustang97: sun-java5-jdk or sun-java6-jdk
[11:57] <Bobothn> return to castle wolfenstein is the game
[11:57] <System79> Elpepa: Problem is you need to find a way to reinstall grub.
[11:57] <Anthony_> I need help on compiz fusion, i've followed the guide on the ubuntu forums and everything is installed, but the effects just aren't appearing. Help please.
[11:57] <mustang97> Once again.   I had to due to the errors trying to install  jdk-1_5_0_12-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[11:57] <NETWizz> does sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop restart X?
[11:57] <Civik2> stefg: it says bash: syntax error near unexpected token `hd0,0'
[11:57] <Civik2> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `hd0,0'
[11:57] <abstrakt> where is the xfree86 config file located these days?
[11:57] <System79> Bobothn: Make sure your soundcard is NOT in use
[11:57] <Bobothn> how?
[11:57] <hexstar> abstrakt: /etc/X11
[11:57] <System79> Bobothn: Close down all audio programs
[11:57] <abstrakt> stefg, hey, any more ideas?
[11:57] <mustang97> sun-java6-jdk wont work.    threw errors.    The last time I did this I got help  and got it installed.  couldnt remember how I did it.
[11:57] <System79> Bobothn: If you have something like totem running close it down too
[11:57] <Civik2> stefg: nvm my mistake
[11:57] <CPF_> Hi. I'm having problems with some clvm package, it won't re-install, remove, install or anything. But it's selected, and now I always get an error when I do apt-get or aptitude (or alike)...
[11:58] <Trashcan> stefg: you said to verify my ISO, I did so and it's still saying the packages are corrupt
[11:58] <stefg> Civik2: k...
[11:58] <dystopianray> Bobothn: try installing 'alsa-oss' and running the game with 'aoss blah'
[11:58] <NETWizz> HOw does one stop x in fiesty
[11:58] <elpepa> System79: I can do it running the LiveCD, but my problem is that when running WinXP installation, it stops after the first reboot. Somehow none of both bootloaders run
[11:58] <dystopianray> mustang97: what are the errors?
[11:58] <hexstar> NETWizz: killall xdm
[11:58] <mustang97> You can kick me if yo uwant but here is the site that is requesting the jdk
[11:58] <mustang97> http://update.multiverse.net/wiki/index.php/Rapid_Linux_server_setup_guide
[11:58] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: what problems would i have it i was on 6.10 not 7.4??
[11:58] <System79> elpepa: You need to edit your grub.conf to also make an option to start windows XP
[11:58] <mustang97> that is how you setup the server
[11:58] <mustang97> that is what I am trying to accomplish.
[11:58] <Civik2> stefg: ok stef setup went fine, want me to paste?
[11:58] <System79> elpepa: Could you pastebin your grub.conf?
[11:59] <NigelS> dystopianray: yes but what links to it is not of course
[11:59] <elpepa> yes
[11:59] <mustang97> Too many lines to post the errors here.
[11:59] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: huh? You mean you had yahoo msgr working on 6.10?
[11:59] <nickrud> NETWizz, ubuntu-fiesty, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:59] <NETWizz> okay
[11:59] <NigelS> dystopianray: that is properly set with update-alternatives; there would be no jdk upon install
[11:59] <stefg> Civik2: no, if there were no errors it's time to 'quit' and try a reboot
[11:59] <NETWizz> so um xdm is on fiesty?
[11:59] <NETWizz> doesn't use dgm
[11:59] <NETWizz> gdm
[11:59] <Civik2> stefg: k
[11:59] <Anthony_> I need help on compiz fusion, i've followed the guide on the ubuntu forums and everything is installed, but the effects just aren't appearing. Help please.
[11:59] <elpepa> System79: you mean the menu.lst?
[11:59] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar.. no i am on 6.10 now... 7.4
[11:59] <dystopianray> NigelS: installing the jdk sets it as the default
[11:59] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: oh
[11:59] <dystopianray> Anthology: did you run 'compiz --replace' ?
[11:59] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i ment to say not on 7.4
[11:59] <System79> elpepa: No theres a grub.conf let me search the directory for you.
[12:00] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: well I'd try that rpm I mentioned
[12:00] <abstrakt> sooo, anyone have a clue why the GLX module isn't loaded even though I installed it via synaptic?
[12:00] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> oj
[12:00] <dystopianray> mustang97: pastebin the errors
[12:00] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: http://rpmseek.com/rpm-dl/compat-openssl096g-0.9.6g-4.2.i586.html?hl=com&cx=2017:C:0:3125737:0:0:0
[12:00] <elpepa> System79: this is my directory
[12:00] <mustang97> Did you look at the site I posted?
[12:00] <Anthony_> dystopianray: yes i did run compiz --replace
[12:00] <elpepa> martin@martin-desktop:/boot/grub$ ls
[12:00] <elpepa> default        installed-version  minix_stage1_5     xfs_stage1_5
[12:00] <elpepa> device.map     jfs_stage1_5       reiserfs_stage1_5
[12:00] <hexstar> abstrakt: you have to include it in the xconf file
[12:00] <elpepa> e2fs_stage1_5  menu.lst           stage1
[12:00] <elpepa> fat_stage1_5   menu.lst~          stage2
[12:00] <astro76> !paste | elpepa
[12:00] <ubotu> elpepa: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:00] <x_> how i can install fonts ?!
[12:00] <System79> elpepa: Type in cd /boot/grub/
[12:00] <gravemind> hey, anybody have snes9x working with a gamepad?
[12:01] <NigelS> dystopianray: yes, but saying "you already have that" is misleading and you can install multiple jdk versions for example
[12:01] <abstrakt> hexstar, yeah well it's listed in there under the modules section
[12:01] <hexstar> !fonts | x_
[12:01] <ubotu> x_: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:01] <dystopianray> Anthony_: and then you do not see any effects?
[12:01] <stefg> !fonts