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khatuidocan we install skype on xubuntu ?02:17
viddyes...you can install any linux app on xubuntu02:18
khatuidobut i got error message02:19
viddwhat did it say?02:19
khatuidowrong architecture i38602:20
vidddo you have an i386 or an amd64?02:20
khatuidoamd6402:20
viddor a ppc system?02:20
khatuidoamd6402:21
viddso you want to get the amd64 version02:21
khatuidoon the site there is only one version02:21
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khatuidoso it mean if i got amd64 version i cannot install skype?02:22
viddapparently....02:27
viddtry a skype clone02:27
khatuidoin fact i just see this02:30
khatuidolike u said my problem was amd6402:30
khatuidohttp://www.commentcamarche.net/faq/sujet-6146-debian-debian-gnu-linux-4-0-amd64-installation-skype02:30
khatuidoso i will try this tutorial02:31
viddthere ya go02:31
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tech404sorry to ask a question like this but has anyone had any luck connecting XP to a wireless router with a hidden SSID and WPA encryption. I dont know how to do it with windows and my friend is trying to use my network04:04
viddhand 'em an ubuntu live cd04:05
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siimohi any xubuntu Gutsy users here?04:07
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Jester45<h3>System info</h3>04:23
Jester45<h4>Cpu</h4>04:23
Jester45        <p>Cpu type</p><br />04:23
Jester45                <p><?php include('php/cpuinfo'); ?></p>04:23
Jester45        <p>Cpu Load</p><br />04:23
Jester45                <p><?php include('php/cpuusage'); ?></p>04:23
Jester45<h4>Memory</h4>04:23
Jester45                <p><?php include('php/meminfo'); ?></p>04:23
Jester45<h4>Network</h4>04:23
Jester45                <p><?php include('php/netinfo'); ?></p>04:24
Jester45ooo very sorry04:24
Jester45wrong channel04:24
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TaJMoXWhy do I only have 1 workspace now?   How do I get 4 again?  Please and Thanks!04:40
zialserr, does your mouse have a middle button?04:42
zialsif not then, emulate it, and middle-click on your desktop04:43
zialsand theres is an option to add a workplace there04:43
TaJMoXzials: <304:44
Jester45or settings -> workplace settigns04:48
TaJMoXJester45: ah yes that's what I was looking for but apparently I'm illiterate05:04
Jester45easy questions are better than hardones05:06
Jester45unless i know the answer05:06
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eagle_101Anyone know a decent FOSS time manager. (Some sort of calender that lets you plot a schedule?)06:34
Jester45umm07:25
Jester45i think xubuntu comes with one by defualt07:25
Jester45!info wyrd07:26
ubotuwyrd: text-based calendar application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-2 (feisty), package size 274 kB, installed size 696 kB07:26
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infblisshi all is it possible to have decent fonts in xubuntu08:27
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wubinoobihola guys... i'm about 80 percent done with a wubi ubuntu install; does anyone have any comments about ubuntu installed the wubi way?  tips, suggestions, etc...?08:34
Jester45wubi?08:40
Jester45and this is the Xubuntu channel, but nobody but me here so it doesnt matter08:40
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zirodayhow well intergrated is ltsp?09:29
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tupahey, I'm new to Xfce, how do I change its themes?10:21
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echosystmguys11:46
echosystmif i did an alt install, with just xfce4 and x11:46
echosystmwould it be any quicker than a standard xubuntu install/11:46
echosystmlike, is there much bloat in the normal install?11:47
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echosystmcan anyone answer the question i asked just before ? :P11:57
totalwormagequicker to install or quicker to run11:59
totalwormageoh wel11:59
totalwormagel11:59
totalwormagei didn't know the answer anyway :] 12:00
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brinstarguys, i have a really small question about thunar. is it possible to change the way the columns are aligned? i don't mean the position, i mean which side of the column the text goes on?02:17
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RedRamahello02:49
RedRamahas anyone configured beryl successfully on xubuntu?02:49
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System79Anyone here who could help me? >.>03:28
TheSheep!ask | System7903:28
ubotuSystem79: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:28
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System79Im trying to install xubuntu, i have problems with permissions to mount my volumes >.>03:29
xyber52what volumes03:29
System79All it comes up with is you are not privileged to mount this volume03:29
System79My hard drive, and cd drive03:30
xyber52are you trying ot mount these using the xubuntu live cd?03:30
System79Yes03:30
System79With the installer03:30
xyber527.04?03:31
System79Yup.03:31
xyber52do you have two optical drives? Or are you talking about the ones mounted already by the cd03:32
System79Well, im talking about /dev/hda1 mainly, because when i come to the last step of the installer where i just have to push the button, it comes up with You are not privileged to mount this volume03:34
System79It points to /media/hda1 or something.03:34
System79Give me one second and ill take a look,03:34
xyber52how did you partition /dev/hda ?03:35
System79ive had a look at it, it comes up with a diffrent error now with a problem about ext3 partition >.>03:37
System79What is the ext3 partition in the sceme supposed to point to? is it supposed to point to / or /media/hda1?03:38
TheSheepSystem79: open thunar, go to edit->preferences->advanced and disable volume management03:38
System79Oo ill try it, one second.03:38
TheSheepSystem79: there is a bug in the interaction of volume manager and the installer03:39
xyber52interesting, never had that problem03:40
TheSheepxyber52: it happens when you create new partitions -- the volume manager mounts them immediately03:40
System79Makes sence, if the other thing uses the partition you cant access it if im right >.>03:41
xyber52TheSheep: would you be able to get around this by disabling volume manager or just using unmount on the new volumes then?03:41
System79I found a bug too, if you select a city at the time zone screen other than the ones in america it will affect the next screen of keyobard settings strangeley >.>03:42
System79xyber if you turn off volume manager it works03:42
TheSheepxyber52: yes, that's why I suggested to disable the volume manager :)03:42
System79I found a bug too, if you select a city at the time zone screen other than the ones in america it will affect the next screen of keyobard settings strangeley >.>03:42
TheSheep!bugs | System7903:42
ubotuSystem79: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots03:42
System79^ reported yet?03:42
TheSheepSystem79: no idea03:42
System79Strange part is that i have both the normal ubuntu 7.04 and the xubuntu, and it only occurs with the xubuntu cd03:43
System79I reported it :/03:44
System79Is it right that XFCE is lighter than gdm or kde?03:44
xyber52Yes03:44
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System79Oo intresting03:45
xyber52By a good margin, actually. Though Gnome runs very well on my laptop.03:45
TheSheepSystem79: xfce and gdm are two totally different things, xubuntu uses both03:45
System79gdm stands for what then? i thought it was to disable gnome desktop manager if you used /etc/init.d/gdm stop03:45
System79:\03:45
System79O well, it doesnt really matter i guess, i've been working with linux for like 2 months now and i dont know that much about it yet :)03:46
TheSheepSystem79: gdm is gnome desktop manager, a part of the gnome desktop environment that is responsible for starting X and disaplying the login prompt03:46
xyber52XFCE runs very well on old hardware. I have a Pentium 4-M 1.6 and 512 Megs of RAM, it runs very fast.03:46
TheSheepxyber52: that's old? o.o03:47
xyber52To me, yes...03:47
System79Lol ;o03:47
xyber52I came to Iraq with an "old" laptop, my desktop at home is nice enough, it runs Beryl easily03:47
xyber52Even XFCE's built-in compositing kills this thing03:48
System79Next step to do in a few months is try to fix myself up with gentoo cause gentoo's command-line installer is quite much harder ;o03:48
xyber52Gentoo.... :)03:48
System79I love it though, had my brother install it for me before03:49
xyber52Are you a gluton for punishment?03:49
TheSheepxyber52: hey, no distro bashing03:49
xyber52I used Gentoo for two or three years, then I switched to Ubuntu in 200403:49
System79Well im quite young i sticked to windows like 4 years =o03:50
xyber52I learned more from Gentoo than anything else about Linux and loved it.03:50
xyber52That distro seems to have lost its direction, but has a wonderful online community.03:50
System79Their forums are good build and active if you are talking about that03:50
System79=)03:50
xyber52Stage 1 installs for the win!03:51
System79Gentoo seems to get more problems now though cause that 50mb package you used to download for command line installing, has now turned into a 700mb live cd >.03:51
System79I've always found it strange that in windows your harddrive is noisy, because of some strange reason i dont have that with ubuntu03:52
System79:/03:52
xyber52Yeah... The minimal cd was very capable, I really enjoyed it. Now I pass out Ubuntu live cd's like candy.03:53
System79:p03:53
System79Im just a 13 year old kid with 13000 questions and 16 answers >.>03:54
xyber52Lol03:54
System79I know its sad :s03:54
System79And i have nvidia for what they done to my previous ubuntu installation :(03:55
System79Their drivers messed up X so bad that i couldnt get it to start even with the backup conf :(03:55
xyber52I work as an IT contractor in Iraq, it is nice to see peoples face light up when you fix their PC's (personal laptops, pirated Vista copies), everything just works when I put in a xubuntu live cd and eveything works and they can rescue their data03:55
System79Mm03:56
System79I'm trying to get a study for such things03:56
System79Its kind of like my dream job :)03:56
xyber52The one thing about linux, is that now matter how bad you mess something up, you usually have the capability to fix it03:56
System79*puts in autorescue cd*03:57
System79Well yeah, at my old school i used to help with the computers and such03:57
xyber52That is always a good start.03:57
TheSheepreminds me of my friend who rescued a system with deleted /sbin using only 'echo' and 'nc'03:57
System79Its really fun to do something that intrests you03:57
System79..03:57
System7961 people here and 96% is idle :p03:58
xyber52Now that's a rescue job there.. I have screwed up Kernels and ATI drivers before, but never dealt with entire deleted directories. Mostly now I rescue people's personal files from Windows installations.03:59
TheSheepSystem79: they read backlog when they're back, that's why we also have #xubuntu-offtopic03:59
System79Anyways, anyone got the nvidia drivers for linux to work under ubuntu? >.>03:59
System79xyber, i remember when the head of that school i used to help on changed his passwords and forgot it04:00
System79and there came me with a bruteforcer floppy :)04:00
System79Good ol' times04:00
System79=P04:00
xyber52Downloaded form Nvidia or installed automatically by Ubuntu?04:00
xyber52lol04:00
System79Downloaded04:00
System79i HAD to play wolfenstein enemy territory :p04:01
TheSheepSystem79: there are drivers in the repositories already tuned and configured for ubuntu04:01
System79*slaps head*04:01
TheSheepSystem79: you just need 2 clicks to install them04:01
System79O well, i wanted an XUbuntu anyway :p04:01
TheSheepSystem79: in system->restricted drivers manager04:01
xyber52Supprisingly almost everything is in the repositories. Ubuntu really does make Linux easy04:02
System79Well not really anymore, some packages have been renamed and not linked :(04:02
System79Try finding wine in the standard ubuntu repositories04:02
xyber52? Like what?04:02
System79I couldnt get it04:03
System79Package wine was not found04:03
xyber52Lol, I haven't used that except for the built into Picasa install04:03
System79What language is ubuntu made in >.>04:03
xyber52Programming Language?04:04
System79I heard that gentoo was made in python or something like that >.>04:04
System79Yes04:04
xyber52Emerge is Python....04:04
xyber52Lots of different things are writen in different languages.04:04
System79I can hardly think linux consists of just machine levcel code04:04
System79I mean the base04:04
System79Not only the functions, the loader04:04
xyber52Depends on what app in Ubuntu you are talking about.04:05
System79Ubuntu itself04:05
System79Debian04:05
System79Whats the source of linux base coded in04:05
System79I've always wondered04:05
xyber52Well, the Kernel is C, Lots of things are written in Perl and Python as well as C, but as far as Apt-Get, I am not sure.04:06
System79O ok04:06
System79Im going to see if my xubuntu installation is done04:07
System79Ill be back :x04:07
System79Thanks for the help xyber52 and TheSheep04:07
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System79Yay it works now :)04:41
System79xyber52 and TheSheep thanks for the help :)04:41
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System79Anyone knows anything about java in xubuntu?04:57
zialswhat about it? o.o04:59
System79It is not in the repositories05:00
System79it is in ubuntu but not in xubuntu05:00
zialsmhmm, well.. I've seen in it an add/remove05:01
System79Really? I haven't05:01
System79I got universe and all enabled and it wont show up :p05:01
zialsand anything in add/remove should be in the repositories...05:01
zialstry doing a search for "java" in add/remove05:01
System79I did05:02
zialsoh05:02
zialsdo you have universe enabeled?05:02
System79I got universe and all enabled and it wont show up :p05:02
zialson the top/right, theres a scroll down thingie05:02
xyber52I thought a build of Java was enabled in 7.04 builds by default?05:02
System79Nope05:02
System79For some strange reason it isnt there05:03
System79In Ubuntu 7.04 you can download the sun java 5 jre05:03
System79using apt-get and add/remove05:03
System79But in05:03
zialswell, in add/remove, did you select "All available application" from the top right05:03
System79Xubuntu, it isnt there05:03
System79Gah05:04
System79forgot about that05:04
System79lol05:04
xyber52Try going to java.com, does it work? I haven05:04
System79Now it shows05:04
System79:)05:04
xyber52't added java to mine and it works.05:04
System79Javascript is standard but loading applets need a full install of sun java 505:05
System79My desktop looks awesome lol05:05
zials=o ?05:06
xyber52XFCE is interesting and very configurable, how is yours setup?05:06
System79Custom themes, havent really messed with it yet05:06
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System79I like XFCEs flexibility :o05:07
xyber52No kidding, the panels are just about as easy as it gets to configure05:09
System79xyber do you know any fun tweaks for XFCE to make my desktop look better?05:10
zialsyou mean stuff like  gdesklets?05:11
xyber52I spent some time installing conky, and then I have worked on my panels quite a bit. I haven't really done much else. All the good stuff requires compositing.05:11
System79Mm is it possible to make screenshots in Xubuntu lol05:11
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zialsyea05:11
zialsapplication -> accessories -> Take screenshot05:12
System79O :p05:12
System79ERr, theres no take scerenshot05:13
System79;o05:13
zialso.o05:14
xyber52its in add/remove05:14
xyber52another gnome app not included by default in XFCE05:14
zialsyou can use the terminal05:14
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System79Mmk05:15
zials...but the app is much easier05:15
TheSheepyou can use gimp05:16
TheSheepit has 'take screenshot' in file->aquire05:16
System79:)05:17
System79Xyber52: My desktop http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/2815/mydesktopag1.png <-- Hah ;o05:18
zialswhy didn't you make xChats background dark?05:19
System79Cause then the text will be unreadable05:19
System79>.>05:19
zialsyou can change the text colout05:19
zialscolour*05:19
System79Ive made it even better05:20
System79:p05:20
zialsI like the clean look though05:21
System79Figured out how to make my chat window background transparent05:21
System79:)05:21
zialsdid you enable compositing?05:21
System79Nope :)05:21
zialswhy not?05:21
System79I dont enable things that i dont know what it does ;)05:22
zialsmakes stuff transparent05:22
System79Intresting05:22
System79Im new to XFCE05:22
System79:)05:22
zialssettings -> window manager tweaks05:22
zialsselect the compositor tab05:22
System79Mm05:23
System79How do i configure this?05:23
zialsenable the first option, and play around with the slider05:23
System79Wow this is hot :)05:23
System79I like this05:24
System79Too bad u cant make firefox transparent :(05:26
System79http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9330/newdesktopcompositingondi2.png <-- new desktop with composite thing on05:27
zialsdoesn't firefox look ugly because every other page is white?05:28
System79Yesh it does i want to make firefox transparent but it doesnt work05:29
TheSheepbeware of headache05:29
System79?05:29
TheSheepSystem79: move the mouse pointer on the firefox's title bar and try alt+scrollwheel05:30
zialsI think he means only the background of a page05:30
System79Wow05:31
System79It works :)05:31
System79Naw i ment firefox completely05:31
zialso.o05:31
System79Now every application is transparent lool05:31
TheSheepanother cool but useless feature :)05:31
System79Thats why XFCE is for graphics eh ;o05:31
System79My friend told me it was way better than that gnome stuff =o05:32
zialsreally?05:32
TheSheepno, gnome has more of it05:32
TheSheepespecially with beryl or compiz05:32
Jester45yea... xfce's composting is prettty much useless05:32
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TheSheepJester45: shadows are good05:32
System79Never knew about compositing anyway.05:32
System79Nice to have a try with it05:32
Jester45ybut compiz is much better because you can use it to be more efficient05:32
TheSheepJester45: arguable :)05:33
System79XFCE is more lightweight than gnome though05:33
Jester45the cube desktop is amazingly cool05:33
Jester45you can get compiz without gnome05:33
System79Mm05:33
TheSheepJester45: how does eactly cube desktop make you more efficinet?05:34
TheSheepexactly05:34
Jester45because you can see though it and see whats going on on all your desktops at once05:34
System79You can be browsing and watch the debug of your irc server05:34
System79;o05:34
TheSheepwell, you can do that already with xfce's window transparency05:35
=== vidd doesnt see how that would be more EFFICIENT Jester45 it would be more DISTRACTING then anything else!
Jester45once your used to it05:36
Jester45you stop paying attention to how cool it is and just use it05:37
System79Speeded up my firefox :)05:37
viddi have this annoying keyboard switcher icon on my panel and i cant seem to get rid of it....any ideas?05:37
System79Keyboard swiitcher? :S that sounds like a bad thing ;o05:38
System79Wow my internet is very fast now ;o05:39
Jester45so you saying that look at one desktop at a time is more efficient say when you can look at a full screen movie while watching something compile and then also keeping an eye on irc05:39
viddit is bad.....i just accidentally started tying in chineese....i think05:39
Jester45System79, it didnt speed your internet connection up05:39
System79I know05:39
System79But it speeded up the delay between pages05:39
System79;o05:39
System79Its like very fast now05:40
viddJester45, if im running anything full-creen, im not doing anything eles05:40
System79^ true05:40
System79Why would you run it full screen for otherwise05:40
System79>.>05:40
Jester45so one thing at a time? for multipule05:40
System79I dont know what i should do multiple05:40
viddif im multi-tasking, <alt><tab> works for me05:40
Jester45because you can switch to it quickly still without having to unfull screen it05:41
System79alt+tab.05:41
System79Thats more efficient to be honest05:41
System79;x05:41
viddas i said...if im multi-tasking, i dont full-screen anything05:42
viddthe only thing i full screen is movies05:42
Jester45vidd you know me :) i allways have at least 2 movies running at once05:42
viddand if im watching a movie, im not doing anything else...at least not on that computer05:43
vidd???05:43
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viddand if i need to actually do 2 full screen apps at once (why i would, i have no idea) i just fire up a second (or third if needed) computer05:43
System79Wow.. compositing and java aplets dont work toow ell >.>05:44
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zialsdoesn't the cube desktop use more resources? O.o05:44
viddwell...not more then 2+ computers =] 05:45
System79I wonder if i would be able to use Winamp on linux :o05:45
System79I want to re-setup my shoutcast server =x05:45
zialswhy not use one of the many other music players?05:45
zialsahh05:45
System79im used to xmms05:45
System79but i cant compile the plugins05:45
System79i always get errors05:45
System79>.>05:45
viddso anyone have any suggestions on getting this keyboard switcher off my desktop?05:46
System79Options maybe? :p05:46
viddnope05:46
viddthere is no option05:47
System79>.>05:47
System79That sucks05:47
System79Anyone knows what packages i nede to compile XMMS plugins?05:47
zialswhen you do configure, what does it say?05:48
System79Wait a sec im downloading icecast05:48
System79Otherwise i have nothing to compile05:48
System79;p05:48
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System79Zials: iit says "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables05:52
System79See `config.log' for more details.05:52
System79"05:52
System79What libs do i need >.>05:52
Jester45vidd's server had thew same problem when compiling eggdrop05:54
System79Yeah i know and theres some library for it05:54
System79>.>05:54
System79its also needed to compile postfix05:54
System79=/05:54
viddnot lets see if my system crashes with scim completely removed05:58
Jester45i dont have scim06:02
System79Jester06:02
System79sudo apt-get install build-essential <-- does the trick with gcc06:02
System79;)06:02
Jester45yea... still didnt help i tried that i have compiled before06:07
System79then thats strange :p06:07
System79outdated gcc or outdated build-essentials06:08
System79:p06:08
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khatuidois it possible got java on amd64 mode?06:33
khatuidocan we use flash player on it?06:36
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BFTDhrm, after updating my kernel, xubuntu no longer see's my ethernet card06:38
System79java on amd64?06:38
System79i have experience with that06:38
System79:)06:38
khatuidohumm06:38
System79Khatuido, u got it to work yet?06:38
BFTDlspci see's it06:38
BFTDbut networking nor ifconfig does06:39
System79>.>06:39
BFTD!!06:39
System79I dont know anything about networking reallly06:39
System79:(06:39
khatuidoi find06:39
khatuidoin fact06:39
System79Khatuido for running java and flash on a 64 bit system you need to install 32 bit libraries and a 32 bit firefox06:39
khatuidobut not for flash player06:40
khatuidoSystem79: i find how install java but not flash player06:40
System79Khatuido: How did you install java?06:40
System79The blackdown thing is bugged.06:41
System79Closes down every applet you try to load06:41
khatuidoapt-get j2...06:41
System79What are you planning to do with java?06:41
khatuidoin fact i am setting my desktop06:42
khatuidoi install things i will need06:42
khatuidoi need flashplayer06:42
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khatuidobut don't find how install in amd6406:43
System79If you are going to run applets in your browser you need to install the browser plugin with apt-get install sun-java5-plugin, and you might want to install sun-java5-bin too06:43
System79Search add/remove06:43
Jester45does the nonfree plugin work on 64 bit?06:43
Jester45System79, why not java606:43
System79Java wont work in 64 bit firefox anyway..06:44
System79Java is a 32 bit application06:44
khatuidooh06:44
System79You need to hook it with a 32 bit firefox installation06:44
System79and the 32 bit libraries06:44
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System79Jester45: can you help khatuido with getting 32 bit libraries and firefox seeing as i have to go eat some06:44
System79Ill be right back 10 minutes06:45
khatuidobut the 1.4.2 is enough for my need06:46
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Jester45hi maxamillion06:54
maxamillionhello Jester4506:55
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System79~Back07:04
System79Aww07:05
System79no welcome backs?07:05
System79Jester45: I WANT A WELCOME BACK =(07:05
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System79:)07:06
System79Thanks ;p07:06
System79Woot07:06
System79https://shipit.ubuntu.com <- Free CDs please?07:06
viddSystem79, did you ever think ppl were happy to see ya go?07:06
viddlol07:06
System79Yup :)07:07
System79U guys have seen ubuntus new shipit stuff?07:07
System79Up to 3 free cds with ubuntu on it07:07
System79:)07:07
viddonly 3?07:08
viddany alt cd's?07:08
System791 cd with 32 bit ubuntu07:08
System792 with 32 bit and 1 with 64 bit07:08
System793 with 64 bit07:09
System79or 1 with 64 bit07:09
System79=$07:09
System79and you can get EduBuntu and Kubuntu too07:09
viddSystem79, nothing there i want07:11
viddthe live cd is only good for emergencies....i'd NEVER use it to install07:11
System79I got 3 ubuntu 32 hit on order cause i always lose them07:12
System79the cds07:12
System79>.>07:12
System79Noooooo07:13
System79shipit is down07:13
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System79Bye07:17
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ParkotronHello all! I just downloaded an Xubuntu 7.04 alternate install iso. I'm trying to isntall it07:32
wbadgerguys what's the output of "users" in your comp?07:32
wbadgerParkotron, there's a big button labeled "Install" :)07:32
viddParkotron, where are you stuck?07:32
ParkotronSorry, I didn't mean to hit enter.07:32
ParkotronPackages are being found to be corrupt.07:33
viddwbadger, there is no buttons on the alt install07:33
wbadgervidd, I guess you're right :P didn't see it was alt install07:34
ParkotronBut the MD5SUM from the ISO and from the burnt CD match the one listed on the server.07:34
viddParkotron, did you run the "check cd for defects"07:34
ParkotronI now think it might be a faulty CD drive as the corrupt packages are different if I try it again.07:35
viddParkotron, when you burn the iso, you always want to use the slowest speed you can07:35
ParkotronThe first time was perl, the second time, python-minimal and this time it's smbclient.07:35
viddespecially if you are burning it on one computer and running it on another07:36
Parkotronvidd: I know the burn was good as K3B "Verified Written Data" and a did a manual MD5SUM myself.07:37
ParkotronSorry, I think the CD-ROM on the computer I'm installing to might be faulty. I know my burner is good.07:37
ParkotronI should have been clearer.07:37
viddParkotron, this is true....however, if you burn a cd @ 16 speed, and you try to run it on a 32X cdrom, that cdrom drive may not be able to read that burn07:38
viddolder cdroms have issues reading hi-speed burns07:38
ParkotronReally? I'd never heard of that.07:39
ParkotronBut then again I've never had to deal with a CD-ROM from 1998 before either.07:39
viddif you are installing on a desktop, you may want to put that burner into the other system so the drive can read the burn07:39
vidd1998???? good luck getting that to read ANY home-burned cd!07:40
ParkotronI've got an extra CD-ROM lying around. I'll swap it in and see what happens.07:40
viddwhat speed did you burn the iso @?07:41
Parkotron4x07:41
viddthat is usually ok for not-so-old cdroms07:41
ParkotronNot unreasonably fast.07:42
wbadgervidd, I don't think it's possible.. the data on a high speed burnt cd should be the same as the one with a low speed burnt cd07:42
viddi dont suppose you have a spare burner that you can put in that machine?07:42
viddwbadger, you keep thinking that07:42
viddexperience has shown me that it DOES make a difference07:43
viddIDK why...but it does07:43
wbadgervidd, if you don't know why it makes a difference... well ok then you keep thinking that07:43
TheSheepvidd: it's because at higher speeds the burner's laser has much shorter contact with the cd and the alternations are smaller07:43
viddTheSheep, so it DOES make a difference?07:44
viddim NOT crazy?07:44
TheSheepvidd: it's ok for modern, sensitive cd drives, but not for the blunt old ones07:44
vidd=] 07:44
wbadgera reason :) now that I can believe07:44
TheSheepvidd: the quality of the cd disk you're using makes a difference too07:44
TheSheepvidd: and its age07:45
vidd=]  thats a given!07:45
ParkotronWell, I've got to shutdown to tear my extra burner out of this machine. Thanks for the help. I might be back.07:45
viddParkotron, good choice of install method!07:45
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viddwbadger, the duck-billed platapus is a warm-blooded animal that lays eggs....why? IDK....you going to question that too? =] 07:47
System79|IdLeErr?07:47
System79|IdLeduck-billed platapus? >.>07:48
wbadgerI would probably question it if I cared :P07:48
viddlol07:48
viddSystem79|IdLe, ya missed half the convo....dont ask! =] 07:48
System79|IdLeAw :(07:48
System79|IdLeGah i cant read quit messages :(07:49
System79|IdLeI like XUbuntu better than Kubuntu if it depends on graphics07:50
viddSystem79|IdLe, is it that you dont SEE the quit messages? or they are there and you just cant make them out?07:51
viddand what chat client are you using?07:51
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System79|IdLeMy color settings are just wrong :)07:52
viddoh...that should be a rather simple fix07:52
System79|IdLeI know07:52
System79|IdLeBut i dont feel like doing it07:52
System79|IdLe:)07:52
viddthen....suffer?07:53
vidd=] 07:53
System79|IdLeWhat do i need to see quit messages for anyway07:53
BFTDARGH07:54
System79|IdLeI can see it now :)07:54
BFTDmy ethernet card isn't being seen by ifconfig07:54
BFTDWHY!?!?!07:54
BFTDlspci see's it though07:54
System79|IdLeCause its blind?07:54
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System79|IdLe>.>07:54
BFTDtell me why NOW!!!07:54
System79|IdLeAsk jesus07:54
System79|IdLe>.>07:54
BFTDJesus isn't here!07:54
viddBFTD, what is the ethernet card?07:54
System79|IdLeWhy did you have to update your kernel :'(07:54
BFTDbroadcom 440107:55
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System79|IdLe*points to google -> drivers*07:55
BFTD?07:55
BFTDit was working not to long ago07:55
System79|IdLeMaybe you lost some packages on your drivers go download them and see if it works?07:56
System79|IdLeI dont know what you did07:56
System79|IdLeOr how you did it07:56
System79|IdLe:/07:56
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BFTDdude07:56
BFTDdrivers?07:56
System79|IdLeYesh07:56
System79|IdLeDrivers07:56
BFTDthere is no such thing in linux07:56
System79|IdLe>.>07:56
System79|IdLeYes there is07:56
BFTDwhere are you from?!07:56
System79|IdLeI downloaded nvidia drivers07:56
System79|IdLefor my videocard07:56
System79|IdLeand then had to reinstall xubuntu :)07:56
BFTDthat's why you get it from the repo's and not from the site07:57
System79|IdLeAnd if you want proof that it exists in linux -> www.nvidia.com07:57
System79|IdLe:p07:57
System79|IdLeHow would I know :p07:57
System79|IdLeI just wanted to play rtcw07:57
System79|IdLe:p07:57
BFTDrtcw?07:57
System79|IdLereturn to castle wolfenstein rofl07:57
BFTD?07:58
System79|IdLeLike the only first person shooter for linux07:58
viddSystem79|IdLe, well...that was your FIRST problem!07:58
System79|IdLe:p07:58
vidd=] 07:58
BFTDwhat was wrong with nvidia-glx?07:58
System79|IdLeDidnt figure that i had that07:58
System79|IdLe;)07:58
System79|IdLeIts like07:58
System79|IdLebeing lazy and let google do it07:58
System79|IdLeAlways ends in trouble07:59
System79|IdLe>.>07:59
viddBFTD, check your blacklist...make sure the driver didnt get flagged in error07:59
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BFTDwhere is this blacklist?07:59
System79|IdLeAt your restricted drivers08:00
System79|IdLeErr where was that again >.>08:00
System79|IdLeApplications -> System -> restricted drivers manager08:00
BFTDYou need to install the package08:01
BFTD  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.21.5-custom08:01
BFTDfor this program to work.08:01
System79|IdLethen install it08:01
BFTDthere is no such package08:01
System79|IdLeseems like you messed up something and u lost some packages..08:01
System79|IdLeGah08:01
System79|IdLeWhat exactly did youdo08:01
vidd /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist08:01
System79|IdLeHe cant even start rdm08:02
System79|IdLelol08:02
System79|IdLe;x08:02
viddSystem79|IdLe, neither can i....08:02
System79|IdLeI can08:02
System79|IdLe:$08:02
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System79|IdLeMaybe cause i dont mess around with my installations that much :x08:02
viddBFTD, do you see your driver listed on the blacklist?08:03
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BFTDvidd I dunno08:03
System79|IdLe>.>08:03
System79|IdLeDang08:03
viddcan you grep nano?08:03
BFTDblacklist r818x08:04
BFTDblacklist r818708:04
BFTDthose are the only ones that might be08:04
BFTDnot sure though08:04
System79|IdLetry it?08:04
viddtry sudo modprobe bcm440008:04
viddor bcm44xx08:05
Jester45why grep nano08:05
System79|IdLeWireless network ftw :(08:05
viddbut the 44-series SHOULD auto detect (if i recall correctly)08:06
Jester45if you want to read something just cat file | grep term08:06
BFTDFATAL: Module bcm4400 not found.08:06
System79|IdLenano is ftw jester08:06
viddty Jester45 i forgot how08:06
System79|IdLethats hip, new08:06
System79|IdLe:p08:06
wbadgerheh you dont need to cat a file and pipe to grep08:06
wbadgeryou just grep "term" file08:06
System79|IdLeExperts are arguaing08:06
System79|IdLe>.>08:06
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viddSystem79, yeah...for someone who was idle, you sure spoke alot!08:07
System79=D08:07
System79Yup i did :\08:07
viddBFTD, what about bcm44xx?08:08
BFTDsame08:08
viddhrm....08:08
System79BFTD, bash your box :)08:08
System79Always helps for me08:08
System79i buy new stuff and it all works again08:08
BFTDcan someone please kb System7908:09
System79..08:09
Jester45why08:09
System79You dont want to08:09
BFTDtake your stuff to offtopic08:10
System79Hey relax, i gave you a solution.08:10
BFTDno08:10
viddBFTD, is this a wifi card?08:10
BFTDno08:10
System79System79> BFTD, bash your box :) <-- If nothing everhelps thats the best solution08:10
BFTDits an onboard wired networking card08:11
viddhrm...it should auto-load....08:11
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vidd=\08:13
BFTDwhere would the driver be?08:18
BFTDbrb08:20
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viddany luck?08:23
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BFTDARGH08:24
BFTDit didn't work08:24
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ParkotronAlternate 7.04 install has been stuck at 77% "Gathering information for installation report...". Any ideas?09:04
viddlet it run09:04
ParkotronIt's been 34 minutes.09:05
ParkotronHard dirve activity light isn't on either.09:05
Jester45cd stop spinning?09:05
viddit is most likely checking the internet09:05
ParkotronCD is not spinning.09:06
ParkotronWhat would it be doing on the internet?09:07
Jester45checking for the repo servers09:07
Jester45what install cd are you using09:08
ParkotronAlternate.09:08
System79Why do u use alternate anyway :p09:09
ParkotronLow RAM system.09:10
ParkotronAMD K6 550MHz, 128MB RAM.09:10
Jester45System79, most people use it once they try it09:12
Jester45i use it vidd uses09:12
System79Mmk i just wondered09:12
Jester45its faster and stabler09:12
System79its the same version of xubuntu except theres no liive run and you can set custom options09:13
System79if im right09:13
System79;/09:13
Jester45yes09:14
Jester45but it uses a diffrent installer09:14
viddmore mature...stable...leaves you with a fully functional desktop 100% of the time...not 50%09:15
vidd=] 09:15
System79Oo <309:15
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darrendanyone know of an audio player (gtk) that (a) doesn't suck, and (b) doesn't lock the sound device permanently after using it09:19
Jester45!sonata09:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sonata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:19
Jester45!info sonata09:20
ubotusonata: GTK+ client for the Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 149 kB, installed size 580 kB09:20
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darrendJester45: I'll take a look, thanks09:20
darrendhow do you make it read the library?09:26
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khatuidosomeone success install flash on amd64 ?09:59
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wbadgerdoes intalling it on firefox32 count?10:00
khatuidoyes10:01
khatuidou success it?10:02
wbadgerkhatuido, yeah, but I used packages I found on the net, wait a sec10:02
System79Khatuido10:03
System79Have u got your flash working yet?10:04
khatuidono10:04
System79You need to install it on firefox32 btw10:04
System79;)10:04
System79Then its eas10:04
System79easy*10:04
System79I'd help you10:04
khatuidohow instal firefox3210:04
khatuidoinstall10:04
khatuidoi got one firefox but don't know the version10:05
wbadgerkhatuido, I used this thread http://allostalk.com/showthread.php?s=3ddbb81fc8eea4b341a8df240c9622b2&t=20253710:05
System79Think i used the same10:05
System7964 bit process with 32 bit firefox and libraries?10:05
System79>.>10:05
wbadgerkhatuido, and you probably have a 64bit firefox that came with the 64 bit system10:05
System79Yep10:05
System79:p10:05
khatuidooh oki10:06
khatuidoi will read it10:06
khatuidothanks look good10:07
khatuidoi will try this way10:07
khatuidowbadger: i got a problem i don't got the "flashplayer.xpt" file10:24
wbadgerkhatuido, how come?10:24
khatuidoi install firefox32_deb10:24
khatuidobut then for install flash10:25
khatuidothey said10:25
khatuidosudo mv -f /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/flashplayer.xpt /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/flash7/10:25
wbadgerkhatuido, oh don't worry about that10:25
khatuidobut i don't got the file "flashplayer.xpt"10:25
wbadgerkhatuido, they said only if you have a previously installed flash version and you want to upgrade, then you need to do that10:26
khatuidooh oki10:26
wbadger"If you have flash 7 installed we will first move the flash 7 files in case we ever want to use them again."10:26
khatuidooh sorry10:26
khatuidoi didn't read fine10:26
wbadgerkhatuido, don't worry :)10:26
khatuidoenglish is not my main langage so sometime i misread10:28
wbadgermine neither10:29
khatuidowhere do u from?10:30
wbadgerI'm from Israel10:30
wbadgerand you?10:30
khatuidooki me France10:30
wbadgernice] 10:31
khatuidoi don't got file .macromedia10:35
khatuidoi need create it?10:35
wbadgerkhatuido, don't create it, I think it creates itself after you try the flash player10:35
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khatuidoi try10:35
wbadgerkhatuido, if it already works, you don't need to change anything10:35
System79?10:36
khatuidohumm10:36
khatuidobut i need choose the firefox3210:36
khatuidohow i can launch it?10:36
System79khatuido10:36
System79can i make a suggestion?10:36
khatuidoyes?10:36
khatuidoyes?10:36
System79You know the application bar at the top of your screen right?10:36
wbadgerwell you can open console and change directory to /usr/local/firefox32 then write "./firefox32"10:36
System79wbadger theres an easier way ^^10:36
wbadgerkhatuido, or it should actually be in the XFCE menu :P near the regular firefox10:37
System79Right click the bar at the top of your screen10:37
System79wbadger you can just rightclick your screen, then say create new item10:37
System79then create a launcher10:37
System79with the command firefox32 &10:38
System79then ur done10:38
System79;p10:38
System79at least thats how i did it with 64 bit xubuntu10:38
wbadgeryeah I did that.. and what do you need the "&" for?10:38
System79I have no idea really ;p10:38
System79Its supposed to be there though10:38
System79>.>10:38
System79I believe i read that if you dont do it it will start the 64 bit firefox10:39
System79>.>10:39
wbadgerSystem79, mine doesn't have it :P10:39
System79Im just telling what i have read ;)10:39
wbadgerand it works fine of course10:39
System79And now ill be off to gaming10:39
System79:x10:39
wbadgerhave fun10:39
System79Thanks :)10:39
khatuidoSystem79: what did i need put in command?10:43
wbadgerkhatuido, put firefox3210:43
khatuidooh i guess it's the way to firefox3210:43
wbadgerkhatuido, i think you only need firefox32 because the package creates a link in your /usr/bin ldir10:44
khatuidoit still said i don't got flash10:47
wbadgerkhatuido, I want you to try something10:48
khatuidowhat?10:48
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wbadgerkhatuido, in the directory /usr/local/firefox32, do you have an actualy "plugins" directory or a link to one?10:49
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wbadgeryou can check with the command "file /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"10:49
khatuidoyes i got10:49
wbadgerwhat do you have, a link or a directory?10:49
khatuidooups10:50
wbadgerwhat does oups mean? :P a directory or a link?10:51
khatuidoi got this /usr/local/firefox32/plugins: symbolic link to `/usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins'10:51
wbadgerok so try this10:51
wbadgerfirst lets delete the link or if you want you can rename it10:51
khatuidohow delete the link?10:51
wbadgerso "rm /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"10:52
wbadgerwell maybe it won't let you delete so try adding "sudo": "sudo rm /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"10:52
khatuidothey didn't say error10:52
wbadgerok10:52
wbadgernow try: "sudo mkdir /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"10:53
khatuidonow i got /usr/local/firefox32/plugins: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/local/firefox32/plugins' (No such file or directory)10:53
khatuidowhen i try ur command10:53
wbadgerok that's good, now try the next command10:54
wbadgerthat was "sudo mkdir /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"10:54
khatuidothen?10:54
khatuidoi try install10:54
khatuidolike they explain10:54
wbadgerwait10:54
khatuidoagain?10:54
wbadgernow lastly try "sudo cp /usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins/* /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"10:55
wbadgernow lastly try "sudo cp /usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins/* /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/"10:55
wbadgerkhatuido, ok?10:56
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khatuidocp: omission du rpertoire `/usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins/flash7'10:56
khatuidoi need create flash7 ?10:56
wbadgerno10:56
khatuidothey said this10:56
khatuidocp: omission du rpertoire `/usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins/flash7'10:57
wbadgerit's ok10:57
wbadgerI don't know why do you have that folder but it isn't important10:57
wbadgercheck now if flash works?10:57
khatuidodoesn't work10:58
khatuidobut ur last command said weird message10:58
wbadgerthe message about omitting the flash7 directory is ok. please show me what is in the directory /usr/local/firefox32/plugins10:58
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wbadger(use the command ls: "ls /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"10:59
khatuidoflashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libnpp.so  libnullplugin.so10:59
wbadgerthat is what I have also.11:00
wbadgerwhat does the command "which firefox32" say?11:00
khatuidothis /usr/local/bin/firefox3211:00
wbadgerdid you close firefox and start it again before you checked if flash works?11:02
khatuidohumm not all11:02
wbadger:) then do that please, and when you open firefox write "about:plugins" in the address bar. that way we will know for sure.11:03
khatuidoit looks work11:05
khatuido:)11:05
wbadger:)11:05
wbadgergood job11:05
khatuidothanks u11:06
wbadgerno problem11:06
khatuidobut i still got security problem11:06
wbadgerwhat security problem?11:06
khatuidoin fact i try install flash for one game11:07
khatuidoand they said ly flash player don't accept launch the game11:07
wbadgerwhat game?11:07
khatuidodofus11:08
khatuidoi success11:10
khatuido:)11:10
wbadger:)11:10
khatuidoi can play11:10
khatuidolol11:10
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wbadgerhave fun then11:11
khatuidooh i got a question11:11
khatuidoamsn can be antialiasing in amd6411:11
khatuido?11:11
wbadgersorry I don't know..11:11
khatuidocos now it's not pretty11:11
wbadgerI use pidgin11:11
wbadgerI think it is related more to x.org and not amsn, but I don't know a lot about antialising11:12
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khatuido_wbadger: i got dc11:17
wbadgerdc?11:17
khatuido_disconnect11:17
wbadgerah11:17
khatuido_what do u say about antialising?11:18
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khatuido_antialiasing11:18
wbadgerI said11:18
System79Meh11:18
wbadger<wbadger> I think it is related more to x.org and not amsn, but I don't know a lot about antialising11:18
System79wbadger >.>11:18
System79My kernel is dead11:18
wbadgerSystem79, would you happen to know anything about antialising?11:18
System79Not really11:18
wbadgerwhy?11:18
khatuido_lol why system79?11:18
System79Installed NVIDIAs drivers11:18
System79from nvidia.com11:19
System79next thing i know is that X Server wont start anymore11:19
System79>.>11:19
System79im on irssi now >.>11:19
wbadgerdid you change /etc/X11/xorg.conf?11:19
khatuido_who?11:19
System79No the installer did =.=11:19
wbadgerSystem79, does the X server give any error?11:20
khatuido_oh i need install my ATI driver?11:20
System79Yes11:20
System79The kernel interface has errors hold on11:20
System79Ill check with debug11:20
wbadgerkhatuido_, usually you can do it by entering the Restricted Drivers Manager and just click the little box11:20
System79Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module11:21
wbadgerfigures..11:21
System79>.>11:21
wbadgerok so.. you wouldn't be able to pastebin your xorg.conf file would you11:21
System79I cant figure out where it fails loading11:21
System79I can try11:22
System79I installed links11:22
System79>.>11:22
System79I remember when i had these problems with gentoo11:22
System79=x11:22
khatuido_oh yes i didn't install it11:22
khatuido_thanks wbadger11:22
wbadgerSystem79, what does it say under the nvidia device section?11:22
wbadgerkhatuido_, np :] 11:22
System79I have no graphic interface whatsoever11:23
System79So what section11:23
System79>.>11:23
wbadgerinside the xore.conf file11:23
System79Let me check11:23
wbadgerSystem79, ok, it should start with Section "Device", and inside the section you should have Driver and a value like nvidia or nv11:24
System79I have found something yes11:24
System79it says my video card type11:24
System79driver "nvidia"11:25
System79busid "1:0:0"11:25
wbadgerok, I suggest you try changing the driver to "nv" so you can enter X again. it will not try to load the new nvidia driver but at least you will have a graphical interface11:25
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System79Bah11:26
wbadgerdid you change it'?11:27
System79Yes11:27
System79Problem is its completely dead11:27
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wbadgerwhat do you mean by that..11:27
System79Could you open up your xorg.conf and tell me which standard driver is loaded?11:27
System79I get alot of debug errors using NV11:28
wbadgerSystem79, I have the propriatory driver installed, so "nvidia"11:28
wbadgerproprietary*11:28
System79mm11:29
wbadgerSystem79, maybe you should ask in #ubuntu, I'm not very good with kernel problems.. I can only help with stuff that happened to me11:29
wbadgerand I simply installed the proprietary driver by the Restricted Drivers Manager. BTW why didn't you use that?11:30
System79Im game addict =/11:30
System79W:ET keeps crashing without the new drivers11:30
System79=P11:30
System79I get some errors in the commandline here11:31
wbadgerwell most games won't work well at all with old drivers.. but the restricted drivers manager gives you the latest binary drivers11:31
wbadgerSystem79, I suggest again that you try #ubuntu..11:32
System79Bah ill try11:32
wbadgersorry I can't help anymore...11:33
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khatuidosorry sorry i change my micro sound with alsamixer11:34
khatuidohow can i save the setting?11:34
khatuidocos when i reboot i lost it11:34
wbadgerkhatuido, maybe you need to save the session11:35
khatuidohow save session?11:35
wbadgerkhatuido, well, you can open XFCE menu -> Settings -> Sessions and Startup11:36
wbadgeris the option "Promt on logout" checked there?11:37
khatuidook11:37
khatuidoi will see next reboot11:37
khatuido:)11:38
wbadgerwhen you logout you can check a box to save the session.. :) don't forget to check it11:38
khatuidowbadger do u know a software who can save a part of the screen?11:38
khatuidoon windows i used camstudio11:38
wbadgerlike a screenshot?11:39
khatuidoand i know there is a software on linux call "wink"11:39
wbadgeror more like a video?11:39
khatuidovideo11:39
khatuidovideo of a part of my screen11:39
wbadgersorry I don't know "wink"11:39
khatuidobut wink is not available for amd6411:40
wbadgerkhatuido, oh well you can still run 32bit applications11:40
wbadgerjust install the package "linux32"11:40
khatuidooh?11:41
wbadgerkhatuido, and then you just run the application with "linux32" in front. I'm not sure it will always work but it is worth the try11:41
wbadgerkhatuido, install it with "sudo apt-get update", and the "sudo apt-get install linux32"11:41
khatuidothen how it work?11:42
wbadgerkhatuido, if you want to run for example "wink" then you write "linux32 wink" instead of just "wink" :P11:43
khatuidoi need install11:43
khatuidobut look work11:44
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wbadgerI don't understand11:44
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khatuidolinux32 is goo11:49
khatuidogood :)11:49
wbadger:)11:49
System79wbadger11:50
System79Got it to work again11:50
wbadgeryeah?11:50
System79:)11:50
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wbadgernice job :)11:50
wbadgerwell it's time I go now11:50
wbadgergood night11:50
System79good night11:50
khatuidooki thanks for all11:50
khatuido:)11:50
wbadger:)11:50
LimteerosCan anyone help me with FreeNX?11:50
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