[02:17] <khatuido> can we install skype on xubuntu ?
[02:18] <vidd> yes...you can install any linux app on xubuntu
[02:19] <khatuido> but i got error message
[02:19] <vidd> what did it say?
[02:20] <khatuido> wrong architecture i386
[02:20] <vidd> do you have an i386 or an amd64?
[02:20] <khatuido> amd64
[02:20] <vidd> or a ppc system?
[02:21] <khatuido> amd64
[02:21] <vidd> so you want to get the amd64 version
[02:21] <khatuido> on the site there is only one version
[02:22] <khatuido> so it mean if i got amd64 version i cannot install skype?
[02:27] <vidd> apparently....
[02:27] <vidd> try a skype clone
[02:30] <khatuido> in fact i just see this
[02:30] <khatuido> like u said my problem was amd64
[02:30] <khatuido> http://www.commentcamarche.net/faq/sujet-6146-debian-debian-gnu-linux-4-0-amd64-installation-skype
[02:31] <khatuido> so i will try this tutorial
[02:31] <vidd> there ya go
[04:04] <tech404> sorry to ask a question like this but has anyone had any luck connecting XP to a wireless router with a hidden SSID and WPA encryption. I dont know how to do it with windows and my friend is trying to use my network
[04:05] <vidd> hand 'em an ubuntu live cd
[04:07] <siimo> hi any xubuntu Gutsy users here?
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[04:24] <Jester45> ooo very sorry
[04:24] <Jester45> wrong channel
[04:40] <TaJMoX> Why do I only have 1 workspace now?   How do I get 4 again?  Please and Thanks!
[04:42] <zials> err, does your mouse have a middle button?
[04:43] <zials> if not then, emulate it, and middle-click on your desktop
[04:43] <zials> and theres is an option to add a workplace there
[04:44] <TaJMoX> zials: <3
[04:48] <Jester45> or settings -> workplace settigns
[05:04] <TaJMoX> Jester45: ah yes that's what I was looking for but apparently I'm illiterate
[05:06] <Jester45> easy questions are better than hardones
[05:06] <Jester45> unless i know the answer
[06:34] <eagle_101> Anyone know a decent FOSS time manager. (Some sort of calender that lets you plot a schedule?)
[07:25] <Jester45> umm
[07:25] <Jester45> i think xubuntu comes with one by defualt
[07:26] <Jester45> !info wyrd
[07:26] <ubotu> wyrd: text-based calendar application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-2 (feisty), package size 274 kB, installed size 696 kB
[08:27] <infbliss> hi all is it possible to have decent fonts in xubuntu
[08:34] <wubinoobi> hola guys... i'm about 80 percent done with a wubi ubuntu install; does anyone have any comments about ubuntu installed the wubi way?  tips, suggestions, etc...?
[08:40] <Jester45> wubi?
[08:40] <Jester45> and this is the Xubuntu channel, but nobody but me here so it doesnt matter
[09:29] <ziroday> how well intergrated is ltsp?
[10:21] <tupa> hey, I'm new to Xfce, how do I change its themes?
[11:46] <echosystm> guys
[11:46] <echosystm> if i did an alt install, with just xfce4 and x
[11:46] <echosystm> would it be any quicker than a standard xubuntu install/
[11:47] <echosystm> like, is there much bloat in the normal install?
[11:57] <echosystm> can anyone answer the question i asked just before ? :P
[11:59] <totalwormage> quicker to install or quicker to run
[11:59] <totalwormage> oh wel
[11:59] <totalwormage> l
[12:00] <totalwormage> i didn't know the answer anyway :] 
[02:17] <brinstar> guys, i have a really small question about thunar. is it possible to change the way the columns are aligned? i don't mean the position, i mean which side of the column the text goes on?
[02:49] <RedRama> hello
[02:49] <RedRama> has anyone configured beryl successfully on xubuntu?
[03:28] <System79> Anyone here who could help me? >.>
[03:28] <TheSheep> !ask | System79
[03:28] <ubotu> System79: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:29] <System79> Im trying to install xubuntu, i have problems with permissions to mount my volumes >.>
[03:29] <xyber52> what volumes
[03:29] <System79> All it comes up with is you are not privileged to mount this volume
[03:30] <System79> My hard drive, and cd drive
[03:30] <xyber52> are you trying ot mount these using the xubuntu live cd?
[03:30] <System79> Yes
[03:30] <System79> With the installer
[03:31] <xyber52> 7.04?
[03:31] <System79> Yup.
[03:32] <xyber52> do you have two optical drives? Or are you talking about the ones mounted already by the cd
[03:34] <System79> Well, im talking about /dev/hda1 mainly, because when i come to the last step of the installer where i just have to push the button, it comes up with You are not privileged to mount this volume
[03:34] <System79> It points to /media/hda1 or something.
[03:34] <System79> Give me one second and ill take a look,
[03:35] <xyber52> how did you partition /dev/hda ?
[03:37] <System79> ive had a look at it, it comes up with a diffrent error now with a problem about ext3 partition >.>
[03:38] <System79> What is the ext3 partition in the sceme supposed to point to? is it supposed to point to / or /media/hda1?
[03:38] <TheSheep> System79: open thunar, go to edit->preferences->advanced and disable volume management
[03:38] <System79> Oo ill try it, one second.
[03:39] <TheSheep> System79: there is a bug in the interaction of volume manager and the installer
[03:40] <xyber52> interesting, never had that problem
[03:40] <TheSheep> xyber52: it happens when you create new partitions -- the volume manager mounts them immediately
[03:41] <System79> Makes sence, if the other thing uses the partition you cant access it if im right >.>
[03:41] <xyber52> TheSheep: would you be able to get around this by disabling volume manager or just using unmount on the new volumes then?
[03:42] <System79> I found a bug too, if you select a city at the time zone screen other than the ones in america it will affect the next screen of keyobard settings strangeley >.>
[03:42] <System79> xyber if you turn off volume manager it works
[03:42] <TheSheep> xyber52: yes, that's why I suggested to disable the volume manager :)
[03:42] <System79> I found a bug too, if you select a city at the time zone screen other than the ones in america it will affect the next screen of keyobard settings strangeley >.>
[03:42] <TheSheep> !bugs | System79
[03:42] <ubotu> System79: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:42] <System79> ^ reported yet?
[03:42] <TheSheep> System79: no idea
[03:43] <System79> Strange part is that i have both the normal ubuntu 7.04 and the xubuntu, and it only occurs with the xubuntu cd
[03:44] <System79> I reported it :/
[03:44] <System79> Is it right that XFCE is lighter than gdm or kde?
[03:44] <xyber52> Yes
[03:45] <System79> Oo intresting
[03:45] <xyber52> By a good margin, actually. Though Gnome runs very well on my laptop.
[03:45] <TheSheep> System79: xfce and gdm are two totally different things, xubuntu uses both
[03:45] <System79> gdm stands for what then? i thought it was to disable gnome desktop manager if you used /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:45] <System79> :\
[03:46] <System79> O well, it doesnt really matter i guess, i've been working with linux for like 2 months now and i dont know that much about it yet :)
[03:46] <TheSheep> System79: gdm is gnome desktop manager, a part of the gnome desktop environment that is responsible for starting X and disaplying the login prompt
[03:46] <xyber52> XFCE runs very well on old hardware. I have a Pentium 4-M 1.6 and 512 Megs of RAM, it runs very fast.
[03:47] <TheSheep> xyber52: that's old? o.o
[03:47] <xyber52> To me, yes...
[03:47] <System79> Lol ;o
[03:47] <xyber52> I came to Iraq with an "old" laptop, my desktop at home is nice enough, it runs Beryl easily
[03:48] <xyber52> Even XFCE's built-in compositing kills this thing
[03:48] <System79> Next step to do in a few months is try to fix myself up with gentoo cause gentoo's command-line installer is quite much harder ;o
[03:48] <xyber52> Gentoo.... :)
[03:49] <System79> I love it though, had my brother install it for me before
[03:49] <xyber52> Are you a gluton for punishment?
[03:49] <TheSheep> xyber52: hey, no distro bashing
[03:49] <xyber52> I used Gentoo for two or three years, then I switched to Ubuntu in 2004
[03:50] <System79> Well im quite young i sticked to windows like 4 years =o
[03:50] <xyber52> I learned more from Gentoo than anything else about Linux and loved it.
[03:50] <xyber52> That distro seems to have lost its direction, but has a wonderful online community.
[03:50] <System79> Their forums are good build and active if you are talking about that
[03:50] <System79> =)
[03:51] <xyber52> Stage 1 installs for the win!
[03:51] <System79> Gentoo seems to get more problems now though cause that 50mb package you used to download for command line installing, has now turned into a 700mb live cd >.
[03:52] <System79> I've always found it strange that in windows your harddrive is noisy, because of some strange reason i dont have that with ubuntu
[03:52] <System79> :/
[03:53] <xyber52> Yeah... The minimal cd was very capable, I really enjoyed it. Now I pass out Ubuntu live cd's like candy.
[03:53] <System79> :p
[03:54] <System79> Im just a 13 year old kid with 13000 questions and 16 answers >.>
[03:54] <xyber52> Lol
[03:54] <System79> I know its sad :s
[03:55] <System79> And i have nvidia for what they done to my previous ubuntu installation :(
[03:55] <System79> Their drivers messed up X so bad that i couldnt get it to start even with the backup conf :(
[03:55] <xyber52> I work as an IT contractor in Iraq, it is nice to see peoples face light up when you fix their PC's (personal laptops, pirated Vista copies), everything just works when I put in a xubuntu live cd and eveything works and they can rescue their data
[03:56] <System79> Mm
[03:56] <System79> I'm trying to get a study for such things
[03:56] <System79> Its kind of like my dream job :)
[03:56] <xyber52> The one thing about linux, is that now matter how bad you mess something up, you usually have the capability to fix it
[03:57] <System79> *puts in autorescue cd*
[03:57] <System79> Well yeah, at my old school i used to help with the computers and such
[03:57] <xyber52> That is always a good start.
[03:57] <TheSheep> reminds me of my friend who rescued a system with deleted /sbin using only 'echo' and 'nc'
[03:57] <System79> Its really fun to do something that intrests you
[03:57] <System79> ..
[03:58] <System79> 61 people here and 96% is idle :p
[03:59] <xyber52> Now that's a rescue job there.. I have screwed up Kernels and ATI drivers before, but never dealt with entire deleted directories. Mostly now I rescue people's personal files from Windows installations.
[03:59] <TheSheep> System79: they read backlog when they're back, that's why we also have #xubuntu-offtopic
[03:59] <System79> Anyways, anyone got the nvidia drivers for linux to work under ubuntu? >.>
[04:00] <System79> xyber, i remember when the head of that school i used to help on changed his passwords and forgot it
[04:00] <System79> and there came me with a bruteforcer floppy :)
[04:00] <System79> Good ol' times
[04:00] <System79> =P
[04:00] <xyber52> Downloaded form Nvidia or installed automatically by Ubuntu?
[04:00] <xyber52> lol
[04:00] <System79> Downloaded
[04:01] <System79> i HAD to play wolfenstein enemy territory :p
[04:01] <TheSheep> System79: there are drivers in the repositories already tuned and configured for ubuntu
[04:01] <System79> *slaps head*
[04:01] <TheSheep> System79: you just need 2 clicks to install them
[04:01] <System79> O well, i wanted an XUbuntu anyway :p
[04:01] <TheSheep> System79: in system->restricted drivers manager
[04:02] <xyber52> Supprisingly almost everything is in the repositories. Ubuntu really does make Linux easy
[04:02] <System79> Well not really anymore, some packages have been renamed and not linked :(
[04:02] <System79> Try finding wine in the standard ubuntu repositories
[04:02] <xyber52> ? Like what?
[04:03] <System79> I couldnt get it
[04:03] <System79> Package wine was not found
[04:03] <xyber52> Lol, I haven't used that except for the built into Picasa install
[04:03] <System79> What language is ubuntu made in >.>
[04:04] <xyber52> Programming Language?
[04:04] <System79> I heard that gentoo was made in python or something like that >.>
[04:04] <System79> Yes
[04:04] <xyber52> Emerge is Python....
[04:04] <xyber52> Lots of different things are writen in different languages.
[04:04] <System79> I can hardly think linux consists of just machine levcel code
[04:04] <System79> I mean the base
[04:04] <System79> Not only the functions, the loader
[04:05] <xyber52> Depends on what app in Ubuntu you are talking about.
[04:05] <System79> Ubuntu itself
[04:05] <System79> Debian
[04:05] <System79> Whats the source of linux base coded in
[04:05] <System79> I've always wondered
[04:06] <xyber52> Well, the Kernel is C, Lots of things are written in Perl and Python as well as C, but as far as Apt-Get, I am not sure.
[04:06] <System79> O ok
[04:07] <System79> Im going to see if my xubuntu installation is done
[04:07] <System79> Ill be back :x
[04:07] <System79> Thanks for the help xyber52 and TheSheep
[04:41] <System79> Yay it works now :)
[04:41] <System79> xyber52 and TheSheep thanks for the help :)
[04:57] <System79> Anyone knows anything about java in xubuntu?
[04:59] <zials> what about it? o.o
[05:00] <System79> It is not in the repositories
[05:00] <System79> it is in ubuntu but not in xubuntu
[05:01] <zials> mhmm, well.. I've seen in it an add/remove
[05:01] <System79> Really? I haven't
[05:01] <System79> I got universe and all enabled and it wont show up :p
[05:01] <zials> and anything in add/remove should be in the repositories...
[05:01] <zials> try doing a search for "java" in add/remove
[05:02] <System79> I did
[05:02] <zials> oh
[05:02] <zials> do you have universe enabeled?
[05:02] <System79> I got universe and all enabled and it wont show up :p
[05:02] <zials> on the top/right, theres a scroll down thingie
[05:02] <xyber52> I thought a build of Java was enabled in 7.04 builds by default?
[05:02] <System79> Nope
[05:03] <System79> For some strange reason it isnt there
[05:03] <System79> In Ubuntu 7.04 you can download the sun java 5 jre
[05:03] <System79> using apt-get and add/remove
[05:03] <System79> But in
[05:03] <zials> well, in add/remove, did you select "All available application" from the top right
[05:03] <System79> Xubuntu, it isnt there
[05:04] <System79> Gah
[05:04] <System79> forgot about that
[05:04] <System79> lol
[05:04] <xyber52> Try going to java.com, does it work? I haven
[05:04] <System79> Now it shows
[05:04] <System79> :)
[05:04] <xyber52> 't added java to mine and it works.
[05:05] <System79> Javascript is standard but loading applets need a full install of sun java 5
[05:05] <System79> My desktop looks awesome lol
[05:06] <zials> =o ?
[05:06] <xyber52> XFCE is interesting and very configurable, how is yours setup?
[05:06] <System79> Custom themes, havent really messed with it yet
[05:07] <System79> I like XFCEs flexibility :o
[05:09] <xyber52> No kidding, the panels are just about as easy as it gets to configure
[05:10] <System79> xyber do you know any fun tweaks for XFCE to make my desktop look better?
[05:11] <zials> you mean stuff like  gdesklets?
[05:11] <xyber52> I spent some time installing conky, and then I have worked on my panels quite a bit. I haven't really done much else. All the good stuff requires compositing.
[05:11] <System79> Mm is it possible to make screenshots in Xubuntu lol
[05:11] <zials> yea
[05:12] <zials> application -> accessories -> Take screenshot
[05:12] <System79> O :p
[05:13] <System79> ERr, theres no take scerenshot
[05:13] <System79> ;o
[05:14] <zials> o.o
[05:14] <xyber52> its in add/remove
[05:14] <xyber52> another gnome app not included by default in XFCE
[05:14] <zials> you can use the terminal
[05:15] <System79> Mmk
[05:15] <zials> ...but the app is much easier
[05:16] <TheSheep> you can use gimp
[05:16] <TheSheep> it has 'take screenshot' in file->aquire
[05:17] <System79> :)
[05:18] <System79> Xyber52: My desktop http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/2815/mydesktopag1.png <-- Hah ;o
[05:19] <zials> why didn't you make xChats background dark?
[05:19] <System79> Cause then the text will be unreadable
[05:19] <System79> >.>
[05:19] <zials> you can change the text colout
[05:19] <zials> colour*
[05:20] <System79> Ive made it even better
[05:20] <System79> :p
[05:21] <zials> I like the clean look though
[05:21] <System79> Figured out how to make my chat window background transparent
[05:21] <System79> :)
[05:21] <zials> did you enable compositing?
[05:21] <System79> Nope :)
[05:21] <zials> why not?
[05:22] <System79> I dont enable things that i dont know what it does ;)
[05:22] <zials> makes stuff transparent
[05:22] <System79> Intresting
[05:22] <System79> Im new to XFCE
[05:22] <System79> :)
[05:22] <zials> settings -> window manager tweaks
[05:22] <zials> select the compositor tab
[05:23] <System79> Mm
[05:23] <System79> How do i configure this?
[05:23] <zials> enable the first option, and play around with the slider
[05:23] <System79> Wow this is hot :)
[05:24] <System79> I like this
[05:26] <System79> Too bad u cant make firefox transparent :(
[05:27] <System79> http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9330/newdesktopcompositingondi2.png <-- new desktop with composite thing on
[05:28] <zials> doesn't firefox look ugly because every other page is white?
[05:29] <System79> Yesh it does i want to make firefox transparent but it doesnt work
[05:29] <TheSheep> beware of headache
[05:29] <System79> ?
[05:30] <TheSheep> System79: move the mouse pointer on the firefox's title bar and try alt+scrollwheel
[05:30] <zials> I think he means only the background of a page
[05:31] <System79> Wow
[05:31] <System79> It works :)
[05:31] <System79> Naw i ment firefox completely
[05:31] <zials> o.o
[05:31] <System79> Now every application is transparent lool
[05:31] <TheSheep> another cool but useless feature :)
[05:31] <System79> Thats why XFCE is for graphics eh ;o
[05:32] <System79> My friend told me it was way better than that gnome stuff =o
[05:32] <zials> really?
[05:32] <TheSheep> no, gnome has more of it
[05:32] <TheSheep> especially with beryl or compiz
[05:32] <Jester45> yea... xfce's composting is prettty much useless
[05:32] <TheSheep> Jester45: shadows are good
[05:32] <System79> Never knew about compositing anyway.
[05:32] <System79> Nice to have a try with it
[05:32] <Jester45> ybut compiz is much better because you can use it to be more efficient
[05:33] <TheSheep> Jester45: arguable :)
[05:33] <System79> XFCE is more lightweight than gnome though
[05:33] <Jester45> the cube desktop is amazingly cool
[05:33] <Jester45> you can get compiz without gnome
[05:33] <System79> Mm
[05:34] <TheSheep> Jester45: how does eactly cube desktop make you more efficinet?
[05:34] <TheSheep> exactly
[05:34] <Jester45> because you can see though it and see whats going on on all your desktops at once
[05:34] <System79> You can be browsing and watch the debug of your irc server
[05:34] <System79> ;o
[05:35] <TheSheep> well, you can do that already with xfce's window transparency
[05:36] <Jester45> once your used to it
[05:37] <Jester45> you stop paying attention to how cool it is and just use it
[05:37] <System79> Speeded up my firefox :)
[05:37] <vidd> i have this annoying keyboard switcher icon on my panel and i cant seem to get rid of it....any ideas?
[05:38] <System79> Keyboard swiitcher? :S that sounds like a bad thing ;o
[05:39] <System79> Wow my internet is very fast now ;o
[05:39] <Jester45> so you saying that look at one desktop at a time is more efficient say when you can look at a full screen movie while watching something compile and then also keeping an eye on irc
[05:39] <vidd> it is bad.....i just accidentally started tying in chineese....i think
[05:39] <Jester45> System79, it didnt speed your internet connection up
[05:39] <System79> I know
[05:39] <System79> But it speeded up the delay between pages
[05:39] <System79> ;o
[05:40] <System79> Its like very fast now
[05:40] <vidd> Jester45, if im running anything full-creen, im not doing anything eles
[05:40] <System79> ^ true
[05:40] <System79> Why would you run it full screen for otherwise
[05:40] <System79> >.>
[05:40] <Jester45> so one thing at a time? for multipule
[05:40] <System79> I dont know what i should do multiple
[05:40] <vidd> if im multi-tasking, <alt><tab> works for me
[05:41] <Jester45> because you can switch to it quickly still without having to unfull screen it
[05:41] <System79> alt+tab.
[05:41] <System79> Thats more efficient to be honest
[05:41] <System79> ;x
[05:42] <vidd> as i said...if im multi-tasking, i dont full-screen anything
[05:42] <vidd> the only thing i full screen is movies
[05:42] <Jester45> vidd you know me :) i allways have at least 2 movies running at once
[05:43] <vidd> and if im watching a movie, im not doing anything else...at least not on that computer
[05:43] <vidd> ???
[05:43] <vidd> and if i need to actually do 2 full screen apps at once (why i would, i have no idea) i just fire up a second (or third if needed) computer
[05:44] <System79> Wow.. compositing and java aplets dont work toow ell >.>
[05:44] <zials> doesn't the cube desktop use more resources? O.o
[05:45] <vidd> well...not more then 2+ computers =] 
[05:45] <System79> I wonder if i would be able to use Winamp on linux :o
[05:45] <System79> I want to re-setup my shoutcast server =x
[05:45] <zials> why not use one of the many other music players?
[05:45] <zials> ahh
[05:45] <System79> im used to xmms
[05:45] <System79> but i cant compile the plugins
[05:45] <System79> i always get errors
[05:45] <System79> >.>
[05:46] <vidd> so anyone have any suggestions on getting this keyboard switcher off my desktop?
[05:46] <System79> Options maybe? :p
[05:46] <vidd> nope
[05:47] <vidd> there is no option
[05:47] <System79> >.>
[05:47] <System79> That sucks
[05:47] <System79> Anyone knows what packages i nede to compile XMMS plugins?
[05:48] <zials> when you do configure, what does it say?
[05:48] <System79> Wait a sec im downloading icecast
[05:48] <System79> Otherwise i have nothing to compile
[05:48] <System79> ;p
[05:51] <vidd> scim-panel-gtk
[05:52] <System79> Zials: iit says "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:52] <System79> See `config.log' for more details.
[05:52] <System79> "
[05:52] <System79> What libs do i need >.>
[05:54] <Jester45> vidd's server had thew same problem when compiling eggdrop
[05:54] <System79> Yeah i know and theres some library for it
[05:54] <System79> >.>
[05:54] <System79> its also needed to compile postfix
[05:54] <System79> =/
[05:58] <vidd> not lets see if my system crashes with scim completely removed
[06:02] <Jester45> i dont have scim
[06:02] <System79> Jester
[06:02] <System79> sudo apt-get install build-essential <-- does the trick with gcc
[06:02] <System79> ;)
[06:07] <Jester45> yea... still didnt help i tried that i have compiled before
[06:07] <System79> then thats strange :p
[06:08] <System79> outdated gcc or outdated build-essentials
[06:08] <System79> :p
[06:33] <khatuido> is it possible got java on amd64 mode?
[06:36] <khatuido> can we use flash player on it?
[06:38] <BFTD> hrm, after updating my kernel, xubuntu no longer see's my ethernet card
[06:38] <System79> java on amd64?
[06:38] <System79> i have experience with that
[06:38] <System79> :)
[06:38] <khatuido> humm
[06:38] <System79> Khatuido, u got it to work yet?
[06:38] <BFTD> lspci see's it
[06:39] <BFTD> but networking nor ifconfig does
[06:39] <System79> >.>
[06:39] <BFTD> !!
[06:39] <System79> I dont know anything about networking reallly
[06:39] <System79> :(
[06:39] <khatuido> i find
[06:39] <khatuido> in fact
[06:39] <System79> Khatuido for running java and flash on a 64 bit system you need to install 32 bit libraries and a 32 bit firefox
[06:40] <khatuido> but not for flash player
[06:40] <khatuido> System79: i find how install java but not flash player
[06:40] <System79> Khatuido: How did you install java?
[06:41] <System79> The blackdown thing is bugged.
[06:41] <System79> Closes down every applet you try to load
[06:41] <khatuido> apt-get j2...
[06:41] <System79> What are you planning to do with java?
[06:42] <khatuido> in fact i am setting my desktop
[06:42] <khatuido> i install things i will need
[06:42] <khatuido> i need flashplayer
[06:43] <khatuido> but don't find how install in amd64
[06:43] <System79> If you are going to run applets in your browser you need to install the browser plugin with apt-get install sun-java5-plugin, and you might want to install sun-java5-bin too
[06:43] <System79> Search add/remove
[06:43] <Jester45> does the nonfree plugin work on 64 bit?
[06:43] <Jester45> System79, why not java6
[06:44] <System79> Java wont work in 64 bit firefox anyway..
[06:44] <System79> Java is a 32 bit application
[06:44] <khatuido> oh
[06:44] <System79> You need to hook it with a 32 bit firefox installation
[06:44] <System79> and the 32 bit libraries
[06:44] <System79> Jester45: can you help khatuido with getting 32 bit libraries and firefox seeing as i have to go eat some
[06:45] <System79> Ill be right back 10 minutes
[06:46] <khatuido> but the 1.4.2 is enough for my need
[06:54] <Jester45> hi maxamillion
[06:55] <maxamillion> hello Jester45
[07:04] <System79> ~Back
[07:05] <System79> Aww
[07:05] <System79> no welcome backs?
[07:05] <System79> Jester45: I WANT A WELCOME BACK =(
[07:06] <System79> :)
[07:06] <System79> Thanks ;p
[07:06] <System79> Woot
[07:06] <System79> https://shipit.ubuntu.com <- Free CDs please?
[07:06] <vidd> System79, did you ever think ppl were happy to see ya go?
[07:06] <vidd> lol
[07:07] <System79> Yup :)
[07:07] <System79> U guys have seen ubuntus new shipit stuff?
[07:07] <System79> Up to 3 free cds with ubuntu on it
[07:07] <System79> :)
[07:08] <vidd> only 3?
[07:08] <vidd> any alt cd's?
[07:08] <System79> 1 cd with 32 bit ubuntu
[07:08] <System79> 2 with 32 bit and 1 with 64 bit
[07:09] <System79> 3 with 64 bit
[07:09] <System79> or 1 with 64 bit
[07:09] <System79> =$
[07:09] <System79> and you can get EduBuntu and Kubuntu too
[07:11] <vidd> System79, nothing there i want
[07:11] <vidd> the live cd is only good for emergencies....i'd NEVER use it to install
[07:12] <System79> I got 3 ubuntu 32 hit on order cause i always lose them
[07:12] <System79> the cds
[07:12] <System79> >.>
[07:13] <System79> Noooooo
[07:13] <System79> shipit is down
[07:17] <System79> Bye
[07:32] <Parkotron> Hello all! I just downloaded an Xubuntu 7.04 alternate install iso. I'm trying to isntall it
[07:32] <wbadger> guys what's the output of "users" in your comp?
[07:32] <wbadger> Parkotron, there's a big button labeled "Install" :)
[07:32] <vidd> Parkotron, where are you stuck?
[07:32] <Parkotron> Sorry, I didn't mean to hit enter.
[07:33] <Parkotron> Packages are being found to be corrupt.
[07:33] <vidd> wbadger, there is no buttons on the alt install
[07:34] <wbadger> vidd, I guess you're right :P didn't see it was alt install
[07:34] <Parkotron> But the MD5SUM from the ISO and from the burnt CD match the one listed on the server.
[07:34] <vidd> Parkotron, did you run the "check cd for defects"
[07:35] <Parkotron> I now think it might be a faulty CD drive as the corrupt packages are different if I try it again.
[07:35] <vidd> Parkotron, when you burn the iso, you always want to use the slowest speed you can
[07:35] <Parkotron> The first time was perl, the second time, python-minimal and this time it's smbclient.
[07:36] <vidd> especially if you are burning it on one computer and running it on another
[07:37] <Parkotron> vidd: I know the burn was good as K3B "Verified Written Data" and a did a manual MD5SUM myself.
[07:37] <Parkotron> Sorry, I think the CD-ROM on the computer I'm installing to might be faulty. I know my burner is good.
[07:37] <Parkotron> I should have been clearer.
[07:38] <vidd> Parkotron, this is true....however, if you burn a cd @ 16 speed, and you try to run it on a 32X cdrom, that cdrom drive may not be able to read that burn
[07:38] <vidd> older cdroms have issues reading hi-speed burns
[07:39] <Parkotron> Really? I'd never heard of that.
[07:39] <Parkotron> But then again I've never had to deal with a CD-ROM from 1998 before either.
[07:39] <vidd> if you are installing on a desktop, you may want to put that burner into the other system so the drive can read the burn
[07:40] <vidd> 1998???? good luck getting that to read ANY home-burned cd!
[07:40] <Parkotron> I've got an extra CD-ROM lying around. I'll swap it in and see what happens.
[07:41] <vidd> what speed did you burn the iso @?
[07:41] <Parkotron> 4x
[07:41] <vidd> that is usually ok for not-so-old cdroms
[07:42] <Parkotron> Not unreasonably fast.
[07:42] <wbadger> vidd, I don't think it's possible.. the data on a high speed burnt cd should be the same as the one with a low speed burnt cd
[07:42] <vidd> i dont suppose you have a spare burner that you can put in that machine?
[07:42] <vidd> wbadger, you keep thinking that
[07:43] <vidd> experience has shown me that it DOES make a difference
[07:43] <vidd> IDK why...but it does
[07:43] <wbadger> vidd, if you don't know why it makes a difference... well ok then you keep thinking that
[07:43] <TheSheep> vidd: it's because at higher speeds the burner's laser has much shorter contact with the cd and the alternations are smaller
[07:44] <vidd> TheSheep, so it DOES make a difference?
[07:44] <vidd> im NOT crazy?
[07:44] <TheSheep> vidd: it's ok for modern, sensitive cd drives, but not for the blunt old ones
[07:44] <vidd> =] 
[07:44] <wbadger> a reason :) now that I can believe
[07:44] <TheSheep> vidd: the quality of the cd disk you're using makes a difference too
[07:45] <TheSheep> vidd: and its age
[07:45] <vidd> =]  thats a given!
[07:45] <Parkotron> Well, I've got to shutdown to tear my extra burner out of this machine. Thanks for the help. I might be back.
[07:45] <vidd> Parkotron, good choice of install method!
[07:47] <vidd> wbadger, the duck-billed platapus is a warm-blooded animal that lays eggs....why? IDK....you going to question that too? =] 
[07:47] <System79|IdLe> Err?
[07:48] <System79|IdLe> duck-billed platapus? >.>
[07:48] <wbadger> I would probably question it if I cared :P
[07:48] <vidd> lol
[07:48] <vidd> System79|IdLe, ya missed half the convo....dont ask! =] 
[07:48] <System79|IdLe> Aw :(
[07:49] <System79|IdLe> Gah i cant read quit messages :(
[07:50] <System79|IdLe> I like XUbuntu better than Kubuntu if it depends on graphics
[07:51] <vidd> System79|IdLe, is it that you dont SEE the quit messages? or they are there and you just cant make them out?
[07:51] <vidd> and what chat client are you using?
[07:52] <System79|IdLe> My color settings are just wrong :)
[07:52] <vidd> oh...that should be a rather simple fix
[07:52] <System79|IdLe> I know
[07:52] <System79|IdLe> But i dont feel like doing it
[07:52] <System79|IdLe> :)
[07:53] <vidd> then....suffer?
[07:53] <vidd> =] 
[07:53] <System79|IdLe> What do i need to see quit messages for anyway
[07:54] <BFTD> ARGH
[07:54] <System79|IdLe> I can see it now :)
[07:54] <BFTD> my ethernet card isn't being seen by ifconfig
[07:54] <BFTD> WHY!?!?!
[07:54] <BFTD> lspci see's it though
[07:54] <System79|IdLe> Cause its blind?
[07:54] <System79|IdLe> >.>
[07:54] <BFTD> tell me why NOW!!!
[07:54] <System79|IdLe> Ask jesus
[07:54] <System79|IdLe> >.>
[07:54] <BFTD> Jesus isn't here!
[07:54] <vidd> BFTD, what is the ethernet card?
[07:54] <System79|IdLe> Why did you have to update your kernel :'(
[07:55] <BFTD> broadcom 4401
[07:55] <wbadger> lol
[07:55] <System79|IdLe> *points to google -> drivers*
[07:55] <BFTD> ?
[07:55] <BFTD> it was working not to long ago
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> Maybe you lost some packages on your drivers go download them and see if it works?
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> I dont know what you did
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> Or how you did it
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> :/
[07:56] <BFTD> dude
[07:56] <BFTD> drivers?
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> Yesh
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> Drivers
[07:56] <BFTD> there is no such thing in linux
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> >.>
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> Yes there is
[07:56] <BFTD> where are you from?!
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> I downloaded nvidia drivers
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> for my videocard
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> and then had to reinstall xubuntu :)
[07:57] <BFTD> that's why you get it from the repo's and not from the site
[07:57] <System79|IdLe> And if you want proof that it exists in linux -> www.nvidia.com
[07:57] <System79|IdLe> :p
[07:57] <System79|IdLe> How would I know :p
[07:57] <System79|IdLe> I just wanted to play rtcw
[07:57] <System79|IdLe> :p
[07:57] <BFTD> rtcw?
[07:57] <System79|IdLe> return to castle wolfenstein rofl
[07:58] <BFTD> ?
[07:58] <System79|IdLe> Like the only first person shooter for linux
[07:58] <vidd> System79|IdLe, well...that was your FIRST problem!
[07:58] <System79|IdLe> :p
[07:58] <vidd> =] 
[07:58] <BFTD> what was wrong with nvidia-glx?
[07:58] <System79|IdLe> Didnt figure that i had that
[07:58] <System79|IdLe> ;)
[07:58] <System79|IdLe> Its like
[07:58] <System79|IdLe> being lazy and let google do it
[07:59] <System79|IdLe> Always ends in trouble
[07:59] <System79|IdLe> >.>
[07:59] <vidd> BFTD, check your blacklist...make sure the driver didnt get flagged in error
[07:59] <BFTD> where is this blacklist?
[08:00] <System79|IdLe> At your restricted drivers
[08:00] <System79|IdLe> Err where was that again >.>
[08:00] <System79|IdLe> Applications -> System -> restricted drivers manager
[08:01] <BFTD> You need to install the package
[08:01] <BFTD>   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.21.5-custom
[08:01] <BFTD> for this program to work.
[08:01] <System79|IdLe> then install it
[08:01] <BFTD> there is no such package
[08:01] <System79|IdLe> seems like you messed up something and u lost some packages..
[08:01] <System79|IdLe> Gah
[08:01] <System79|IdLe> What exactly did youdo
[08:01] <vidd>  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:02] <System79|IdLe> He cant even start rdm
[08:02] <System79|IdLe> lol
[08:02] <System79|IdLe> ;x
[08:02] <vidd> System79|IdLe, neither can i....
[08:02] <System79|IdLe> I can
[08:02] <System79|IdLe> :$
[08:02] <System79|IdLe> Maybe cause i dont mess around with my installations that much :x
[08:03] <vidd> BFTD, do you see your driver listed on the blacklist?
[08:03] <BFTD> vidd I dunno
[08:03] <System79|IdLe> >.>
[08:03] <System79|IdLe> Dang
[08:03] <vidd> can you grep nano?
[08:04] <BFTD> blacklist r818x
[08:04] <BFTD> blacklist r8187
[08:04] <BFTD> those are the only ones that might be
[08:04] <BFTD> not sure though
[08:04] <System79|IdLe> try it?
[08:04] <vidd> try sudo modprobe bcm4400
[08:05] <vidd> or bcm44xx
[08:05] <Jester45> why grep nano
[08:05] <System79|IdLe> Wireless network ftw :(
[08:06] <vidd> but the 44-series SHOULD auto detect (if i recall correctly)
[08:06] <Jester45> if you want to read something just cat file | grep term
[08:06] <BFTD> FATAL: Module bcm4400 not found.
[08:06] <System79|IdLe> nano is ftw jester
[08:06] <vidd> ty Jester45 i forgot how
[08:06] <System79|IdLe> thats hip, new
[08:06] <System79|IdLe> :p
[08:06] <wbadger> heh you dont need to cat a file and pipe to grep
[08:06] <wbadger> you just grep "term" file
[08:06] <System79|IdLe> Experts are arguaing
[08:06] <System79|IdLe> >.>
[08:07] <vidd> System79, yeah...for someone who was idle, you sure spoke alot!
[08:07] <System79> =D
[08:07] <System79> Yup i did :\
[08:08] <vidd> BFTD, what about bcm44xx?
[08:08] <BFTD> same
[08:08] <vidd> hrm....
[08:08] <System79> BFTD, bash your box :)
[08:08] <System79> Always helps for me
[08:08] <System79> i buy new stuff and it all works again
[08:09] <BFTD> can someone please kb System79
[08:09] <System79> ..
[08:09] <Jester45> why
[08:09] <System79> You dont want to
[08:10] <BFTD> take your stuff to offtopic
[08:10] <System79> Hey relax, i gave you a solution.
[08:10] <BFTD> no
[08:10] <vidd> BFTD, is this a wifi card?
[08:10] <BFTD> no
[08:10] <System79> System79> BFTD, bash your box :) <-- If nothing everhelps thats the best solution
[08:11] <BFTD> its an onboard wired networking card
[08:11] <vidd> hrm...it should auto-load....
[08:13] <vidd> =\
[08:18] <BFTD> where would the driver be?
[08:20] <BFTD> brb
[08:23] <vidd> any luck?
[08:24] <BFTD> ARGH
[08:24] <BFTD> it didn't work
[09:04] <Parkotron> Alternate 7.04 install has been stuck at 77% "Gathering information for installation report...". Any ideas?
[09:04] <vidd> let it run
[09:05] <Parkotron> It's been 34 minutes.
[09:05] <Parkotron> Hard dirve activity light isn't on either.
[09:05] <Jester45> cd stop spinning?
[09:05] <vidd> it is most likely checking the internet
[09:06] <Parkotron> CD is not spinning.
[09:07] <Parkotron> What would it be doing on the internet?
[09:07] <Jester45> checking for the repo servers
[09:08] <Jester45> what install cd are you using
[09:08] <Parkotron> Alternate.
[09:09] <System79> Why do u use alternate anyway :p
[09:10] <Parkotron> Low RAM system.
[09:10] <Parkotron> AMD K6 550MHz, 128MB RAM.
[09:12] <Jester45> System79, most people use it once they try it
[09:12] <Jester45> i use it vidd uses
[09:12] <System79> Mmk i just wondered
[09:12] <Jester45> its faster and stabler
[09:13] <System79> its the same version of xubuntu except theres no liive run and you can set custom options
[09:13] <System79> if im right
[09:13] <System79> ;/
[09:14] <Jester45> yes
[09:14] <Jester45> but it uses a diffrent installer
[09:15] <vidd> more mature...stable...leaves you with a fully functional desktop 100% of the time...not 50%
[09:15] <vidd> =] 
[09:15] <System79> Oo <3
[09:19] <darrend> anyone know of an audio player (gtk) that (a) doesn't suck, and (b) doesn't lock the sound device permanently after using it
[09:19] <Jester45> !sonata
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sonata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <Jester45> !info sonata
[09:20] <ubotu> sonata: GTK+ client for the Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 149 kB, installed size 580 kB
[09:20] <darrend> Jester45: I'll take a look, thanks
[09:26] <darrend> how do you make it read the library?
[09:59] <khatuido> someone success install flash on amd64 ?
[10:00] <wbadger> does intalling it on firefox32 count?
[10:01] <khatuido> yes
[10:02] <khatuido> u success it?
[10:02] <wbadger> khatuido, yeah, but I used packages I found on the net, wait a sec
[10:03] <System79> Khatuido
[10:04] <System79> Have u got your flash working yet?
[10:04] <khatuido> no
[10:04] <System79> You need to install it on firefox32 btw
[10:04] <System79> ;)
[10:04] <System79> Then its eas
[10:04] <System79> easy*
[10:04] <System79> I'd help you
[10:04] <khatuido> how instal firefox32
[10:04] <khatuido> install
[10:05] <khatuido> i got one firefox but don't know the version
[10:05] <wbadger> khatuido, I used this thread http://allostalk.com/showthread.php?s=3ddbb81fc8eea4b341a8df240c9622b2&t=202537
[10:05] <System79> Think i used the same
[10:05] <System79> 64 bit process with 32 bit firefox and libraries?
[10:05] <System79> >.>
[10:05] <wbadger> khatuido, and you probably have a 64bit firefox that came with the 64 bit system
[10:05] <System79> Yep
[10:05] <System79> :p
[10:06] <khatuido> oh oki
[10:06] <khatuido> i will read it
[10:07] <khatuido> thanks look good
[10:07] <khatuido> i will try this way
[10:24] <khatuido> wbadger: i got a problem i don't got the "flashplayer.xpt" file
[10:24] <wbadger> khatuido, how come?
[10:24] <khatuido> i install firefox32_deb
[10:25] <khatuido> but then for install flash
[10:25] <khatuido> they said
[10:25] <khatuido> sudo mv -f /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/flashplayer.xpt /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/flash7/
[10:25] <wbadger> khatuido, oh don't worry about that
[10:25] <khatuido> but i don't got the file "flashplayer.xpt"
[10:26] <wbadger> khatuido, they said only if you have a previously installed flash version and you want to upgrade, then you need to do that
[10:26] <khatuido> oh oki
[10:26] <wbadger> "If you have flash 7 installed we will first move the flash 7 files in case we ever want to use them again."
[10:26] <khatuido> oh sorry
[10:26] <khatuido> i didn't read fine
[10:26] <wbadger> khatuido, don't worry :)
[10:28] <khatuido> english is not my main langage so sometime i misread
[10:29] <wbadger> mine neither
[10:30] <khatuido> where do u from?
[10:30] <wbadger> I'm from Israel
[10:30] <wbadger> and you?
[10:30] <khatuido> oki me France
[10:31] <wbadger> nice] 
[10:35] <khatuido> i don't got file .macromedia
[10:35] <khatuido> i need create it?
[10:35] <wbadger> khatuido, don't create it, I think it creates itself after you try the flash player
[10:35] <khatuido> i try
[10:35] <wbadger> khatuido, if it already works, you don't need to change anything
[10:36] <System79> ?
[10:36] <khatuido> humm
[10:36] <khatuido> but i need choose the firefox32
[10:36] <khatuido> how i can launch it?
[10:36] <System79> khatuido
[10:36] <System79> can i make a suggestion?
[10:36] <khatuido> yes?
[10:36] <khatuido> yes?
[10:36] <System79> You know the application bar at the top of your screen right?
[10:36] <wbadger> well you can open console and change directory to /usr/local/firefox32 then write "./firefox32"
[10:36] <System79> wbadger theres an easier way ^^
[10:37] <wbadger> khatuido, or it should actually be in the XFCE menu :P near the regular firefox
[10:37] <System79> Right click the bar at the top of your screen
[10:37] <System79> wbadger you can just rightclick your screen, then say create new item
[10:37] <System79> then create a launcher
[10:38] <System79> with the command firefox32 &
[10:38] <System79> then ur done
[10:38] <System79> ;p
[10:38] <System79> at least thats how i did it with 64 bit xubuntu
[10:38] <wbadger> yeah I did that.. and what do you need the "&" for?
[10:38] <System79> I have no idea really ;p
[10:38] <System79> Its supposed to be there though
[10:38] <System79> >.>
[10:39] <System79> I believe i read that if you dont do it it will start the 64 bit firefox
[10:39] <System79> >.>
[10:39] <wbadger> System79, mine doesn't have it :P
[10:39] <System79> Im just telling what i have read ;)
[10:39] <wbadger> and it works fine of course
[10:39] <System79> And now ill be off to gaming
[10:39] <System79> :x
[10:39] <wbadger> have fun
[10:39] <System79> Thanks :)
[10:43] <khatuido> System79: what did i need put in command?
[10:43] <wbadger> khatuido, put firefox32
[10:43] <khatuido> oh i guess it's the way to firefox32
[10:44] <wbadger> khatuido, i think you only need firefox32 because the package creates a link in your /usr/bin ldir
[10:47] <khatuido> it still said i don't got flash
[10:48] <wbadger> khatuido, I want you to try something
[10:48] <khatuido> what?
[10:49] <wbadger> khatuido, in the directory /usr/local/firefox32, do you have an actualy "plugins" directory or a link to one?
[10:49] <wbadger> you can check with the command "file /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:49] <khatuido> yes i got
[10:49] <wbadger> what do you have, a link or a directory?
[10:50] <khatuido> oups
[10:51] <wbadger> what does oups mean? :P a directory or a link?
[10:51] <khatuido> i got this /usr/local/firefox32/plugins: symbolic link to `/usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins'
[10:51] <wbadger> ok so try this
[10:51] <wbadger> first lets delete the link or if you want you can rename it
[10:51] <khatuido> how delete the link?
[10:52] <wbadger> so "rm /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:52] <wbadger> well maybe it won't let you delete so try adding "sudo": "sudo rm /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:52] <khatuido> they didn't say error
[10:52] <wbadger> ok
[10:53] <wbadger> now try: "sudo mkdir /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:53] <khatuido> now i got /usr/local/firefox32/plugins: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/local/firefox32/plugins' (No such file or directory)
[10:53] <khatuido> when i try ur command
[10:54] <wbadger> ok that's good, now try the next command
[10:54] <wbadger> that was "sudo mkdir /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:54] <khatuido> then?
[10:54] <khatuido> i try install
[10:54] <khatuido> like they explain
[10:54] <wbadger> wait
[10:54] <khatuido> again?
[10:55] <wbadger> now lastly try "sudo cp /usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins/* /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:55] <wbadger> now lastly try "sudo cp /usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins/* /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/"
[10:56] <wbadger> khatuido, ok?
[10:56] <khatuido> cp: omission du rpertoire `/usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins/flash7'
[10:56] <khatuido> i need create flash7 ?
[10:56] <wbadger> no
[10:56] <khatuido> they said this
[10:57] <khatuido> cp: omission du rpertoire `/usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins/flash7'
[10:57] <wbadger> it's ok
[10:57] <wbadger> I don't know why do you have that folder but it isn't important
[10:57] <wbadger> check now if flash works?
[10:58] <khatuido> doesn't work
[10:58] <khatuido> but ur last command said weird message
[10:58] <wbadger> the message about omitting the flash7 directory is ok. please show me what is in the directory /usr/local/firefox32/plugins
[10:59] <wbadger> (use the command ls: "ls /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:59] <khatuido> flashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libnpp.so  libnullplugin.so
[11:00] <wbadger> that is what I have also.
[11:00] <wbadger> what does the command "which firefox32" say?
[11:00] <khatuido> this /usr/local/bin/firefox32
[11:02] <wbadger> did you close firefox and start it again before you checked if flash works?
[11:02] <khatuido> humm not all
[11:03] <wbadger> :) then do that please, and when you open firefox write "about:plugins" in the address bar. that way we will know for sure.
[11:05] <khatuido> it looks work
[11:05] <khatuido> :)
[11:05] <wbadger> :)
[11:05] <wbadger> good job
[11:06] <khatuido> thanks u
[11:06] <wbadger> no problem
[11:06] <khatuido> but i still got security problem
[11:06] <wbadger> what security problem?
[11:07] <khatuido> in fact i try install flash for one game
[11:07] <khatuido> and they said ly flash player don't accept launch the game
[11:07] <wbadger> what game?
[11:08] <khatuido> dofus
[11:10] <khatuido> i success
[11:10] <khatuido> :)
[11:10] <wbadger> :)
[11:10] <khatuido> i can play
[11:10] <khatuido> lol
[11:11] <wbadger> have fun then
[11:11] <khatuido> oh i got a question
[11:11] <khatuido> amsn can be antialiasing in amd64
[11:11] <khatuido> ?
[11:11] <wbadger> sorry I don't know..
[11:11] <khatuido> cos now it's not pretty
[11:11] <wbadger> I use pidgin
[11:12] <wbadger> I think it is related more to x.org and not amsn, but I don't know a lot about antialising
[11:17] <khatuido_> wbadger: i got dc
[11:17] <wbadger> dc?
[11:17] <khatuido_> disconnect
[11:17] <wbadger> ah
[11:18] <khatuido_> what do u say about antialising?
[11:18] <khatuido_> antialiasing
[11:18] <wbadger> I said
[11:18] <System79> Meh
 I think it is related more to x.org and not amsn, but I don't know a lot about antialising
[11:18] <System79> wbadger >.>
[11:18] <System79> My kernel is dead
[11:18] <wbadger> System79, would you happen to know anything about antialising?
[11:18] <System79> Not really
[11:18] <wbadger> why?
[11:18] <khatuido_> lol why system79?
[11:18] <System79> Installed NVIDIAs drivers
[11:19] <System79> from nvidia.com
[11:19] <System79> next thing i know is that X Server wont start anymore
[11:19] <System79> >.>
[11:19] <System79> im on irssi now >.>
[11:19] <wbadger> did you change /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:19] <khatuido_> who?
[11:19] <System79> No the installer did =.=
[11:20] <wbadger> System79, does the X server give any error?
[11:20] <khatuido_> oh i need install my ATI driver?
[11:20] <System79> Yes
[11:20] <System79> The kernel interface has errors hold on
[11:20] <System79> Ill check with debug
[11:20] <wbadger> khatuido_, usually you can do it by entering the Restricted Drivers Manager and just click the little box
[11:21] <System79> Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module
[11:21] <wbadger> figures..
[11:21] <System79> >.>
[11:21] <wbadger> ok so.. you wouldn't be able to pastebin your xorg.conf file would you
[11:21] <System79> I cant figure out where it fails loading
[11:22] <System79> I can try
[11:22] <System79> I installed links
[11:22] <System79> >.>
[11:22] <System79> I remember when i had these problems with gentoo
[11:22] <System79> =x
[11:22] <khatuido_> oh yes i didn't install it
[11:22] <khatuido_> thanks wbadger
[11:22] <wbadger> System79, what does it say under the nvidia device section?
[11:22] <wbadger> khatuido_, np :] 
[11:23] <System79> I have no graphic interface whatsoever
[11:23] <System79> So what section
[11:23] <System79> >.>
[11:23] <wbadger> inside the xore.conf file
[11:23] <System79> Let me check
[11:24] <wbadger> System79, ok, it should start with Section "Device", and inside the section you should have Driver and a value like nvidia or nv
[11:24] <System79> I have found something yes
[11:24] <System79> it says my video card type
[11:25] <System79> driver "nvidia"
[11:25] <System79> busid "1:0:0"
[11:25] <wbadger> ok, I suggest you try changing the driver to "nv" so you can enter X again. it will not try to load the new nvidia driver but at least you will have a graphical interface
[11:26] <System79> Bah
[11:27] <wbadger> did you change it'?
[11:27] <System79> Yes
[11:27] <System79> Problem is its completely dead
[11:27] <wbadger> what do you mean by that..
[11:27] <System79> Could you open up your xorg.conf and tell me which standard driver is loaded?
[11:28] <System79> I get alot of debug errors using NV
[11:28] <wbadger> System79, I have the propriatory driver installed, so "nvidia"
[11:28] <wbadger> proprietary*
[11:29] <System79> mm
[11:29] <wbadger> System79, maybe you should ask in #ubuntu, I'm not very good with kernel problems.. I can only help with stuff that happened to me
[11:30] <wbadger> and I simply installed the proprietary driver by the Restricted Drivers Manager. BTW why didn't you use that?
[11:30] <System79> Im game addict =/
[11:30] <System79> W:ET keeps crashing without the new drivers
[11:30] <System79> =P
[11:31] <System79> I get some errors in the commandline here
[11:31] <wbadger> well most games won't work well at all with old drivers.. but the restricted drivers manager gives you the latest binary drivers
[11:32] <wbadger> System79, I suggest again that you try #ubuntu..
[11:32] <System79> Bah ill try
[11:33] <wbadger> sorry I can't help anymore...
[11:34] <khatuido> sorry sorry i change my micro sound with alsamixer
[11:34] <khatuido> how can i save the setting?
[11:34] <khatuido> cos when i reboot i lost it
[11:35] <wbadger> khatuido, maybe you need to save the session
[11:35] <khatuido> how save session?
[11:36] <wbadger> khatuido, well, you can open XFCE menu -> Settings -> Sessions and Startup
[11:37] <wbadger> is the option "Promt on logout" checked there?
[11:37] <khatuido> ok
[11:37] <khatuido> i will see next reboot
[11:38] <khatuido> :)
[11:38] <wbadger> when you logout you can check a box to save the session.. :) don't forget to check it
[11:38] <khatuido> wbadger do u know a software who can save a part of the screen?
[11:38] <khatuido> on windows i used camstudio
[11:39] <wbadger> like a screenshot?
[11:39] <khatuido> and i know there is a software on linux call "wink"
[11:39] <wbadger> or more like a video?
[11:39] <khatuido> video
[11:39] <khatuido> video of a part of my screen
[11:39] <wbadger> sorry I don't know "wink"
[11:40] <khatuido> but wink is not available for amd64
[11:40] <wbadger> khatuido, oh well you can still run 32bit applications
[11:40] <wbadger> just install the package "linux32"
[11:41] <khatuido> oh?
[11:41] <wbadger> khatuido, and then you just run the application with "linux32" in front. I'm not sure it will always work but it is worth the try
[11:41] <wbadger> khatuido, install it with "sudo apt-get update", and the "sudo apt-get install linux32"
[11:42] <khatuido> then how it work?
[11:43] <wbadger> khatuido, if you want to run for example "wink" then you write "linux32 wink" instead of just "wink" :P
[11:43] <khatuido> i need install
[11:44] <khatuido> but look work
[11:44] <wbadger> I don't understand
[11:49] <khatuido> linux32 is goo
[11:49] <khatuido> good :)
[11:49] <wbadger> :)
[11:50] <System79> wbadger
[11:50] <System79> Got it to work again
[11:50] <wbadger> yeah?
[11:50] <System79> :)
[11:50] <wbadger> nice job :)
[11:50] <wbadger> well it's time I go now
[11:50] <wbadger> good night
[11:50] <System79> good night
[11:50] <khatuido> oki thanks for all
[11:50] <khatuido> :)
[11:50] <wbadger> :)
[11:50] <Limteeros> Can anyone help me with FreeNX?