[03:24] <manchicken> Anybody got a handle on this debtags situation with adept?
[03:29] <manchicken> I'll see if I can get a handle on this tonight.
[05:13] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee!
[05:18] <Hobbsee> hey nixternal!
[05:19] <nixternal> ooh?
[05:19] <nixternal> happy birthday?
[05:25] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:28] <nixternal> ;)
[05:28] <nixternal> and my birthday is exactly 7 days after yours :)
[05:40] <n8k99> happy B-day! Hobbsee
[05:41] <n8k99> hope you get a new pointy stick as a pressie
[06:35] <Hobbsee> thanks n8k99 :D
[06:35] <Hobbsee> nixternal: :D
[07:19] <bsundsrud> after the latest update adept says it can't open the apt database, but aptitude and apt-get work fine
[07:20] <bsundsrud> any ideas?
[07:23] <bsundsrud> didn't see an adept section in the launchpad link in the description
[07:24] <BirthdayHobbsee> oh, sigh.
[07:24] <stdin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/127492
[07:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127492 in adept "Could not open cache - Adept Manager" [Undecided,New] 
[07:24] <stdin> bug's been reported, and happens here too
[07:24] <BirthdayHobbsee> thanks stdin
[07:25] <bsundsrud> hey there it is
[07:25] <bsundsrud> 40 minutes ago
[07:25] <bsundsrud> haha
[07:25] <bsundsrud> if i wouldn't have spent so much time trying to fix it myself, i could have submitted it...
[07:26] <BirthdayHobbsee> heh
[07:26] <BirthdayHobbsee> bsundsrud: the idea is that it's broken again
[07:28] <stdin> maybe if I used adept I'd have noticed that bug :p
[07:29] <BirthdayHobbsee> it's all a dupe of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/adept/+bug/121456 again
[07:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121456 in adept "Adept couldn't open debtags database" [Critical,Confirmed] 
[07:30] <bsundsrud> i saw when it wanted to remove all that stuff, and waited it out
[07:30] <bsundsrud> so it luckily didn't remove my apt
[07:30] <BirthdayHobbsee> you dotn want to remove apt
[07:30] <bsundsrud> oh i know
[07:31] <BirthdayHobbsee> if you remove apt, all you're left with, in packaging sense, is dpkg
[07:32] <BirthdayHobbsee> bsundsrud: any idea when this broke?
[07:32] <BirthdayHobbsee> oh, the 20th
[07:32] <bsundsrud> well, i did the update yesterday, then when i tried to load adept to install some stuff today, it gave me the error
[07:35] <BirthdayHobbsee> come on problem upload, expose yoruself.
[07:36] <BirthdayHobbsee> bsundsrud: erm...you say it wanted to remove your apt?
[07:36] <BirthdayHobbsee> what date was this on?
[07:36] <bsundsrud> this was a few weeks ago
[07:37] <bsundsrud> but i didnt update until it wasnt going to do that
[07:37] <BirthdayHobbsee> ah right, so this wasnt recent
[07:37] <bsundsrud> nope
[07:37] <BirthdayHobbsee> (good)
[07:37] <bsundsrud> haha
[07:38] <bsundsrud> well i'll just update via command line for a couple days and hope they fix the DB problem
[07:38] <bsundsrud> and watch that bug
[07:38] <BirthdayHobbsee> hmmm.  i actually have no idea where to even *start* looking at what's broken there.
[07:38] <bsundsrud> yeah
[07:39] <BirthdayHobbsee> yeah, we'll get it fixed, no question.
[07:39] <bsundsrud> although i notice there are lock files that dont get deleted in /var/lib/{dpkg|apt/lists}
[07:40] <stdin> the normally don't get deleted, just locked when in use
[07:40] <bsundsrud> ah ok
[07:40] <BirthdayHobbsee> oh, hang on...
[07:40] <bsundsrud> well then i have no clues for you
[07:40] <BirthdayHobbsee>      adept | 2.1.2ubuntu28 |         gutsy | all
[07:40] <BirthdayHobbsee>      adept | 2.1.3ubuntu1 |         gutsy | source
[07:41] <bsundsrud> so new version soon?
[07:41] <BirthdayHobbsee> ahh, now i have a place to start looking
[07:41] <BirthdayHobbsee> it's in depwait, waiting on libapt-front-dev
[07:41] <bsundsrud> ok
[07:41] <BirthdayHobbsee> libapt-front-dev (>= 0.4.0) in fact
[07:42] <bsundsrud> well, thanks. i gotta run
[07:42] <BirthdayHobbsee> bug #423736.
[07:42] <BirthdayHobbsee> debian bug #423736.
[07:42] <ubotu> Debian bug 423736 in adept "adept: FTBFS: i386: libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libtdb.la' or unhandled argument `/usr/lib/libtdb.la'" [Serious,Fixed]  http://bugs.debian.org/423736
[07:43] <bsundsrud> ah
[07:43] <stdin> changelog for 2.1.2ubuntu27 says "* Recompile on new apt and to remove references to libtdb.la"
[07:43] <BirthdayHobbsee> stdin: no, we've merged from debian again
[07:43] <stdin> ooh
[07:44] <bsundsrud> thanks again
[07:44] <BirthdayHobbsee> stdin: the binary hasnt built for the new adept, because it's in DEPWAIT
[07:44] <BirthdayHobbsee> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/2.1.3ubuntu1/+build/357133
[07:44] <BirthdayHobbsee> and the newer version fo that package isnt there, due to...
[07:45] <BirthdayHobbsee> sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ madison libapt-front-dev
[07:45] <BirthdayHobbsee> libapt-front-dev | 0.3.12ubuntu3 | http://mirror.pacific.net.au gutsy/main Packages
[07:45] <BirthdayHobbsee> libapt-front-dev | 0.3.12ubuntu3 | http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages
[07:45] <BirthdayHobbsee> libapt-front | 0.4.0-0.1ubuntu1 | http://mirror.pacific.net.au gutsy/main Sources
[07:45] <BirthdayHobbsee> libapt-front | 0.4.0-0.1ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Sources
[07:45] <BirthdayHobbsee> so that binary didnt build either
[07:46] <BirthdayHobbsee> right, so there's no build dep on debtags, and our debtags may be too old as well
[07:47] <BirthdayHobbsee> debian bug #392794.
[07:47] <ubotu> Debian bug 392794 in libapt-front-dev "libapt-front-dev: debtags patch file can not be saved" [Important,Fixed]  http://bugs.debian.org/392794
[07:47] <stdin> sounds like that's going to be fun to sort out
[07:49] <BirthdayHobbsee> shouldnt be too hard.
[07:49] <stdin> pita tho :p
[07:49] <BirthdayHobbsee> i mean, all it is is getting libapt-front to build, then getting a giveback on the adept
[07:49] <BirthdayHobbsee> if libapt-front is just missing a build-dep on debtags, that's easy to fix.
[07:53] <BirthdayHobbsee> oh neat, we're already at it
[08:03] <BirthdayHobbsee> stdin: really not that hard
[08:07] <BirthdayHobbsee> stdin: fixed.
[08:07] <stdin> nice :)
[08:07] <BirthdayHobbsee> Uploading to ubuntu (via ftp to upload.ubuntu.com):
[08:07] <BirthdayHobbsee>   libapt-front_0.4.0-0.1ubuntu2.dsc: done.
[08:07] <BirthdayHobbsee>   libapt-front_0.4.0-0.1ubuntu2.tar.gz:
[08:07] <BirthdayHobbsee> unfortunately, i cant trigger that rebuild, so will have to wait.
[08:08] <stdin> I can go back to my C++ book now and wait for the rebuild:D
[08:09] <BirthdayHobbsee>   libapt-front_0.4.0-0.1ubuntu2_source.changes: done.
[08:09] <BirthdayHobbsee> Successfully uploaded packages.
[08:09] <BirthdayHobbsee> Not running dinstall.
[08:09] <BirthdayHobbsee> now as for if, and how that built in debian, i've no idea.
[08:10] <BirthdayHobbsee> oh, it's a manual depwait
[10:53] <fdoving> grr.. our dolphin package is actually d3lphin, which is using /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/, my umountwrapper does not handle that.. yet.
[01:27] <Tm_P> son!
[01:32] <Tm_P> hmm, I would love to see mobile friendly version ov launchpad
[01:32] <Tm_P> s/ov/of/
[01:34] <rbrunhuber> Tm_P: +1
[01:34] <TheInfinity> Tm_P: they are not so fast, it also took ages to make it compatible with opera ;)
[01:35] <Tm_P> yu
[01:35] <Tm_P> I have opera mobile and IE mobile only
[01:35] <Tm_P> so, err
[01:35] <TheInfinity> the non mobile opera is supported since spring this year
[01:36] <TheInfinity> dont know about the mobile version
[01:37] <rbrunhuber> TheInfinity: so big differences? Nokia Series 60 devices should be easy, because they use a browser derived from webkit/konqueror
[01:37] <TheInfinity> dont know, i have no opera mobile - my mobile has no internet acces
[01:37] <TheInfinity> +s
[01:38] <Tm_P> (:
[01:38] <Tm_P> wlan <3
[01:38] <TheInfinity> i have a mobile to phone and to send / recive sms
[01:38] <TheInfinity> no cam, no internet set up, ... :)
[01:39] <Tm_P> TheInfinity: same here, except its my internet connection for pda too
[01:42] <rbrunhuber> Was the same here until I got a bakingtray shaped E61 with exchange active sync. No I'm totally addicted to this shit.
[02:09] <Tm_P> rbrunhuber: hrr, exchange
[02:10] <ScottK> Up until the new LP Beta U/I LP worked reasonably well on my Treo.  No more.
[02:11] <Tm_P> hm
[02:11] <rbrunhuber> Tm_P: Working for a mainly windows company.
[02:11] <rbrunhuber> Tm_P:  So our whole groupware things are exchange based. That's live.
[02:12] <Tm_P>   I'm jealous
[02:13] <Tm_P> I'm trapped to exchange without exchange
[02:14] <rbrunhuber> Tm_P: He who pays the piper, calls the tune :-)
[02:15] <Tm_P> well, too late to realise etc
[02:50] <Tm_P> rbrunhuber: maybe uni has exchange, that would help for a moment
[02:51] <rbrunhuber> Tm_P: what do you mean?
[02:54] <rbrunhuber> Riddell: Ping!
[02:54] <Tm_P> i mean, its possible that university im going next month has exchange service for me to use so i dont need bad substitutes
[02:55] <Tm_P> rbrunhuber: like this: http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/syncflow.png
[02:56] <rbrunhuber> Tm_P: I hope opensync will get really cool and openmoko too.
[02:56] <Tm_P> yu
[05:56] <nixternal> howdy
[05:58] <imbrandon> ...
[05:58] <nixternal> wasabi mr brandon
[05:58] <imbrandon> not much, just got home from church
[05:58] <imbrandon> u?
[05:59] <nixternal> not a whole lot..getting ready to go meet Phil Rodriguez from KDE for lunch
[05:59] <imbrandon> nice
[05:59] <nixternal> I do my church stuff on Saturday nights..that way there I don't have to wake up early on Sunday :)
[05:59] <imbrandon> hehe
[06:00] <nixternal> which I was supposed to wake up early for our LUG meeting, and that didn't go as planned
[06:00] <nixternal> my alarm went off at 8, but I didn't :)
[06:01] <imbrandon> lug meeting in the AM ?
[06:01] <imbrandon> wow
[06:01] <nixternal> 10am to 4pm
[06:01] <imbrandon> most i've been to have been in the eve
[06:01] <nixternal> I woke up at 10am
[06:01] <nixternal> have to meet Phil at Fermi Lab at 12pm...so I wasn't going to make it
[06:01] <nixternal> oh well, I can miss one I guess...it is my first miss in about 3 years I think
[06:03] <nixternal> so I take it you didn't get out to Ubuntu $$$$LIve :)
[06:18] <imbrandon> i'm on my way here in a bit to get on the place
[06:18] <imbrandon> plane*
[06:18] <imbrandon> nixternal, yea i had it spronsored by orileys
[06:18] <imbrandon> so it dident cost me anything ( well not much, only food etc )
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Kinda funky
[06:37] <DaSkreech> If I go to cdimages.ubuntu.com there are only DVD images on it
[07:57] <lontra> anyone know where the configuration for kmilo resides?  my multimedia keys are little whacked
[10:50] <fdoving> so, i've got a positive comment on the MIR page for kio-umountwrapper, what's next?
[10:55] <ScottK> fdoving: From who?
[10:55] <fdoving> Riddell: looks like kio-umountwrapper is approved, according to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionProcess the submitter should take teh responsibility for adding the package to the seeds. could you fix that?
[10:56] <fdoving> ScottK: iwj. and i found the wikis describing the process.
[10:56] <ScottK> fdoving: It's approved.  See where it is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue
[10:57] <fdoving> i found it.
[10:57] <ScottK> fdoving: Now it something in Main needs to depend on it.
[10:57] <ScottK> Ah.
[10:57] <ScottK> Yeah.  Riddell's the one for that.
[10:57] <fdoving> or hobbsee.
[10:58] <fdoving> .. i think she did some seed stuff too.
[10:58] <ScottK> I think so.
[11:04] <fdoving> ScottK: got universe upload rights?
[11:04] <ScottK> Yes
[11:05] <fdoving> could you please fetch kio-umountwrapper from: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/archive/gutsy/ and upload it ?
[11:05] <fdoving> added d3lphin support.
[11:05] <fdoving> which is basically 5 lines in the postrm/preinst files.
[11:05] <fdoving> i could do an debdiff.
[11:05] <ScottK> Should be fine.
[11:06] <fdoving> http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kioumw.u1-u2.debdiff
[11:07] <fdoving> thanks :)
[11:09] <ScottK> You've tested that this actually works, right?
[11:10] <ScottK> fdoving: ^^^^
[11:17] <fdoving> ScottK: no, hang on, i'll do it. might even add another fix while i'm at it. if you haven't uploaded yet.
[11:17] <ScottK> No  I haven't
[11:17] <ScottK> fdoving: There are also lintian warnings about lack of DEBHELPER tokens in preinst and postrm
[11:18] <fdoving> ohwell.
[11:18] <ScottK> Gotta run.  If you still need an upload later, let me know.
[11:19] <ScottK> fdoving: You might also change maintainer to Ubuntu Core Developers since it's going into main...
[12:07] <ScottK> ryanakca: Bug #127630
[12:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127630 in ebox "Can not install Ebox on Gutsy tribe 3 server" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127630
[12:08] <ryanakca> what's ebox?
[12:09] <ScottK> Isn't that the server package you were updating for the Kubuntu server?
[12:09] <ryanakca> no, that was egroupware
[12:09] <ScottK> Ah.  Nevermind.   Sorry for the disturbance.
[12:09] <ryanakca> which I haven't worked on since Thursday (Bagpipe competitions) :)