[12:14] <AcE> dystopianray: thanks
[12:15] <dystopianray> AcE: or you can probably just select them all in konqueror, then right click and select 'extract to here' or similar
[12:16] <AcE> cli is probably better for these batch commands
[12:17] <AcE> needed to extract all the volumes for a manga :)
[12:23] <draik> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[12:23] <draik> kernel?
[12:23] <draik> Where do I find that?
[12:24] <khaije1> kernel 2.6.23 is incredible
[12:25] <dystopianray> khaije1: you are using one of the git snapshots?
[12:25] <dystopianray> draik: probably in /usr/include/
[12:25] <NightBird> draik: /usr/src/linx-headers-`uname -r`
[12:25] <NightBird> er...
[12:25] <NightBird> that may not be it...
[12:26] <khaije1> nope just read the release notes, the progress is incredible!
[12:26] <NightBird> well.... then in include/linux, it has a number of .h files...
[12:26] <dystopianray> NightBird: no you're right, that should work
[12:26] <draik> Maybe here   /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build/include
[12:26] <dystopianray> draik: they are the binary modules
[12:26] <dystopianray> draik: what NightBird said is correct
[12:26] <khaije1> mainline now has kvm, lguest, xen, and vmi
[12:27] <NightBird> khaije1: I see a lot of hype about the new scheduler as well...
[12:28] <khaije1> oh ya i forgot! thats awesome too!!!
[12:28] <draik> dystopianray: NightBird: So then ------->   /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic
[12:28] <NightBird> the completely fair scheduler..
[12:28] <dystopianray> draik: yes, that's right
[12:28] <NightBird> draik: the actual include file is in the /include directory after that
[12:29] <NightBird> so /usr/src/linx-headers-`uname -r`/include
[12:29] <draik> UGH! I can't get the VMMON installed
[12:29] <draik> Installed/configured
[12:29] <draik> Either way, VMware Server won't run
[12:29] <ardchoille> draik: What is vmmon?
[12:30] <ardchoille> A monitoring applet for a window manager?
[12:30] <draik> ardchoille: Virtual Machine MONitor
[12:30] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[12:30] <draik> It's a few modules for the VMware server
[12:32] <draik> I wish I could get the VMware Server going
[12:36] <ardchoille> !sudo
[12:36] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:37] <ardchoille> Ah, it's help.ubuntu.com, not wiki.ubuntu.com.
[12:37] <BluesKaj> is the new kernel available ? , if so where ?
[12:38] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: I'm fully updated and running 2.6.20-16-generic
[12:38] <ardchoille> On Feisty
[12:39] <BluesKaj> same here , but khaije1 was talking about the new 2.6.23 version
[12:39] <ardchoille> It's not in the repos
[12:39] <ardchoille> Maybe he compiled it himself
[12:40] <BluesKaj> khaije1, did you compile the new kernel 2.6.23 ?
[12:40] <dystopianray> I think he said he just read the changelog
[12:40] <khaije1> BluesKaj: afaik it was just commited, only avail as vanilla source not in repo
[12:41] <khaije1> ya i just read the changelog
[12:41] <dystopianray> 2.6.23 is only available as git snapshots, there's not even an rc yet
[12:41] <BluesKaj> i was investingating the scheduler/ fair use on the cpu , sounds intriguing and fast
[12:42] <khaije1> i was reading an article on linuxinsight published at 2pm today
[12:43] <khaije1> it's all very exciting
[12:45] <BluesKaj> something to look forward to ...KDE4, gutsy and the revolutionary kernel :)
[12:45] <BluesKaj> and of course Plasma for the eyecandy crowd :)
[12:46] <khaije1> i'm still waiting for compiz enabled weather apps :-)
[12:47] <khaije1> so it'll snow or raing on my desktop according to the weather outside!
[12:47] <khaije1> *rain
[12:47] <crimsun> that would be awful.
[12:48] <crimsun> (just IMO, of course)
[12:48] <BluesKaj> virtual
[12:48] <crimsun> nice eye candy, I think, but horrid for those of us who actually need to use the 2D desktop for something.
[12:50] <khaije1> crimsun: are you talking about compiz in general or that weather idea?
[12:50] <crimsun> the latter.
[12:50] <crimsun> there are certain features of compiz that are nice for a11y
[12:51] <khaije1> whats a11y?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> lookit my spinning cube with apps on each face ...neat, but then what .... ?
[12:51] <winbond> does anyone know if the latest fglrx can be installed in gutsy?
[12:52] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> winbond: Might ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:52] <BluesKaj> very good question, winbond
[12:52] <winbond> WhtWolfTeraDyne: ty
[12:52] <khaije1> i used to think it wasn't a net gain, but i really think it will become nearly indispensable for extra productivity
[12:53] <winbond> the latest gutsy release rox
[12:53] <BluesKaj> productivity ?
[12:53] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- the burn effect is really cool looking
[12:53] <Dragnslcr> So is painted fire
[12:53] <crimsun> khaije1: accessibility
[12:54] <Dragnslcr> I don't think Compiz has really claimed to be anything other than "Oooh! Shiny!"
[12:54] <crimsun> khaije1: some of us need screen readers, etc., for physical conditions.
[12:54] <vlt> Hello. How can I make an app run when my kde session is started?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> hey I like my video and stuff , but cartoon effects on my desktop ...guess I'm just too old and grumpy for stuff i consider window dressing :)
[12:55] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Speaking of accessibility, I really should do some research on accessibility options in Linux. I need to find my mom an alternative to Windows and JAWS.
[12:55] <crimsun> WhtWolfTeraDyne: believe me, we're looking.
[12:55] <winbond> what be a good video card to buy for compcomm?
[12:55] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Hows Orca coming along...
[12:55] <dystopianray> winbond: compcomm?
[12:55] <khaije1> vlt: place a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[12:56] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> winbond: Most any Nvidia car will do good in Linux.
[12:56] <winbond> dystopianray: the 3d desktop
[12:56] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> O_o; I can't even get any speech in orca...
[12:57] <winbond> WhtWolfTeraDyne: i was thinking something like 7800gt, its cheap nowadays
[12:57] <vlt> khaije1: Thank you.
[12:57] <winbond> WhtWolfTeraDyne: would that be alright?
[12:57] <rojanu> Hi I've got an ar5005g card it was working suddenly it stopped, module is still loaded but no wireless card visible?
[12:57] <khaije1> BluesKaj: think of it this way, it's not the next paradigm, but its the clearest path we have to the 'next' paradigm
[12:57] <dystopianray> winbond: maybe a 8500GT
[12:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> winbond: No idea. I try not to shop for new graphics card. If I can avoid it, anyway.
[12:58] <winbond> dystopianray: 8xxx series is too new i think.the drivers might not be that good
[12:58] <khaije1> anyone know the state of voice recognition w/ gnu/linux ?
[12:58] <dystopianray> khaije1: non-existant
[12:59] <nflava> is there an easy way to connect a midi dv camcorder?
[12:59] <nflava> i though i could add it somewhere but i dont see anything
[12:59] <BluesKaj> "paradigm" bah another overused misunderstood important sounding word ... sorry even tho i own paradigm loudspeakers i always thought the use of that word was acrock to fool the innocent among us :)
[12:59] <khaije1> it makes me wonder about openmoko, have you all heard of that project?
[01:00] <khaije1> BluesKaj: what *should* i have said?
[01:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> khaije1: I want one of those phones...
[01:00] <Biovore> I have
[01:01] <BluesKaj> khaije1, dunno ...anything but .... :)
[01:01] <khaije1> WhtWolfTeraDyne: me too, i think i'm going to wait for the gta03 and compare between the two, i just wish there was more detail available
[01:03] <pauljw> khaije1: these phones?  http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=41147
[01:04] <khaije1> pauljw: thats the one
[01:04] <pauljw> interesting project
[01:04] <BluesKaj> sorry khaije1, I'm old retired technician , who spent too many hrs in symposiums and sales meetings.pitches listening to BS salesmen trying sell me something that had reached  a new "paradigm' so often it almost made me puke after a while.
[01:05] <khaije1> the project seemed derailed for a while ans was delayed, but seems pretty promising again (at least to me, but maybe still not for everyone)
[01:09] <khaije1> BluesKaj: no sweat, you know what i mean though right? the desktop analogy hasn't progressed that much since it's introduction
[01:09] <khaije1> i think compiz could be the road to that, even if it isn't the destination
[01:12] <ubuntu> Hello. I've just installed Kubuntu but when I restart it goes always to WIndows and the grub menu doesn't appear :|. How can I solve this?
[01:13] <southafrikanse> Hello. I've just installed Kubuntu but when I restart it goes always to WIndows and the grub menu doesn't appear :|. How can I solve this?
[01:15] <ubuntu> i
[01:16] <khaije1> southafrikanse: what method did you use to install kubuntu?
[01:16] <BluesKaj> !grub | southafrikanse
[01:16] <ubotu> southafrikanse: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:17] <ubuntu> hi all
[01:19] <southafrikanse> khaije1: I used the Kubuntu liveCD to install
[01:20] <ubuntu> help
[01:20] <ubuntu> #help
[01:20] <khaije1> southafrikanse: using the livecd, can you see the linux partition for the kubuntu install?
[01:21] <winbond> whats the command to reconfigure xorg?
[01:21] <southafrikanse> khaije1: Yes
[01:22] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> winbond: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:22] <winbond> WhtWolfTeraDyne: ty, how long have u been using linux?/
[01:22] <khaije1> southafrikanse: you'll need to reinstall grub, if that doesn't work, you can use lilo
[01:22] <southafrikanse> khaije1: How can I do that?
[01:23] <NightBird> southafrikanse: follow the instructions on how to restore grub after installing windows
[01:23] <NightBird> !grub southafrikanse
[01:23] <southafrikanse> !grub
[01:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:23] <NightBird> why did the bot pm me...
[01:23] <NightBird> oh, because I didn't include the '|'?
[01:23] <khaije1> both are bootloaders, they aren't difficult to install, but i usually use the manual page 'man grub-install' as i do it
[01:24] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> winbond: I've been using Linux for quite a while.
[01:24] <BluesKaj> southafrikanse, one option is to DL and burn (in windows if you must) SuperGrubDisk . It's abootable live cd that will help you restore grub to your kubuntu partition . Then you edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst and add windows to the file and your in dual boot heaven :)
[01:24] <winbond> WhtWolfTeraDyne: what apps u use the most?
[01:25] <NightBird> BluesKaj: or he could just restore grub using the instructions given by the restoring lost grub
[01:25] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> winbond: Amarok, Konsole, Konversation, Konqueror Kontact. Mainly KDE apps.
[01:25] <BluesKaj> southafrikanse, we can show you what to do when your finished restoring the grub menu to the linux partition
[01:25] <winbond> WhtWolfTeraDyne: do u code?
[01:26] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> winbond: Nope. Not apps, anyway. I'm working towards becomign a web developer.
[01:26] <BluesKaj> NightBird, uhhm it amounts to the same thing , i think :)
[01:26] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BBL. Got some stuff to do.
[01:26] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> *sets away*
[01:26] <winbond> WhtWolfTeraDyne: k, do u know a command to rebbot the system without restarting the computer?
[01:27] <sparr> Can anyone recommend a mail client that can handle deleting old messages from the server while keeping them locally on an IMAP account?
[01:27] <NightBird> BluesKaj: yeah, but he already has what he needs :P  a kubuntu cd
[01:28] <martin_> is this possible to run open raider under kubuntu ?
[01:28] <BluesKaj> I'm referring to his install which he can't access
[01:30] <phoenix_> quick question. How do you install a local .deb package on ubuntu?
[01:31] <BluesKaj> cd to the dir then ./debfilename
[01:31] <sparr> phoenix_: dpkg -i foo.deb
[01:32] <BluesKaj> sometimes they have installers , right click and look for install pkg
[01:33] <phoenix_> there it goes, thanks, new to the distro and had pretty much only figured out that a yum local install or pkgtool didn't work :P
[01:34] <phoenix_> Setting up some donated computers for a youth center, trying to find something simple for them to learn to use.
[01:35] <phoenix_> anyone have a reccomendation for filtered net access?
[01:37] <miles> !open
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <miles> !opengl
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <BluesKaj> phoenix_, dont install any media players or plugins :) just kidding
[01:37] <miles> lol pwn
[01:39] <phoenix_> Yeah, the requirement for giving them Linux computers is the ability to block things like myspace and youtube, but still keep e-mail and web searches without the porn.
[01:39] <khaije1> southafrikanse: have you had success with your request?
[01:40] <phoenix_> poor ubotu, doesn't know anything about opengl.
[01:40] <unclephreak> can anyone here help me with a ubuntu question?
[01:40] <NightBird> phoenix_: um... websense?  Sounds like what you want, but it does require subscription and a server that all data passes through
[01:40] <miles> ubotu needs to quit slackin
[01:40] <NightBird> it's the only one I know of... I know it's fairly big though...
[01:41] <phoenix_> I think they will go for a subscription, as long as it'll still work on their windows computers with IE6. Pretty sure they have a subscription now. I'll check that out.
[01:42] <BluesKaj> !ask | unclephreak
[01:42] <ubotu> unclephreak: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:43] <unclephreak> im trying to install ubuntu and when i try to load the live cd i keep getting "ata: port failed to respond
[01:44] <unclephreak> ata2:
[01:44] <unclephreak> i mean
[01:45] <phoenix_> g'night
[01:50] <Karti> Hi all, where do I go to stop programs launching on Startup?
[01:50] <NightBird> Karti: you mean when kde is attempting to restore the previous session that you logged out of?
[01:51] <NightBird> or the services that start on boot?
[01:51] <Karti> NightBird: The services that start on boot  - please
[01:51] <Karti> NightBird: such as Kopete
[01:51] <NightBird> KDE menu->System Settings->Advanced Tab->System Services
[01:51] <BluesKaj> Karti, make sure they're closed before you log off , otherwise they restart upon relogin ...I had to state the obvious
[01:52] <NightBird> but uh.... Kopote isn't a service...
[01:52] <NightBird> yeah, kde attempts to restore the state you had everything in when you last logged out
[01:52] <NightBird> if you don't want some of those programs starting up, then close them before logging out
[01:53] <Karti> BluesKaj: NightBird: Just about to test Nights theory!
[01:54] <NightBird> why do I have this feeling I may have pointed Karti at something they shouldn't be toying with yet....
[01:55] <BluesKaj> NightBird, not to worry ...the services says i have apache2 running , but I uninstalled a week ago ...something strange about that services app
[02:02] <winbond> !themes
[02:02] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:05] <draik> How do I mount a floppy?
[02:05] <draik> It's not in my System Settings > drives...
[02:08] <intelikey> are there known issues with using sshkeys and dhcp automatic addressing ?
[02:09] <intelikey> dynamic ?
[02:10] <draik> intelikey: I just delete the keys
[02:10] <draik> !floppy
[02:10] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[02:10] <intelikey> draik but that would require another 'full setup'
[02:12] <intelikey> i use sshkey to gain root access on my gateway,    will require reboot to init=/bin/sh  to gain root access anyother way,   which means hands on, and add a monitor.
[02:12] <miles> wisdom which means wise words being spoken, too many at one time and watch the mic start smokin
[02:13] <intelikey> miles wisdom can also be words not spoken
[02:13] <ardchoille> lol
[02:13] <miles> o
[02:13] <miles> rakim told me that
[02:14] <intelikey> so can i have more than one 192.168.0.2  (at different times of course)  and sshkeys still work ?    is that possable ?
[02:22] <ubuntu> hi
[02:22] <ubuntu> i am from argentina
[02:22] <diegoelsurfer> diego
[02:22] <diegoelsurfer> 24 years old
[02:23] <intelikey> :)
[02:23] <redshadowhero> can anyone remind me how to enable double clicking for icons?
[02:23] <intelikey> right click the desktop and configure
[02:24] <twylight> hey
[02:24] <GrahamA> All the people in the house! Respect!
[02:24] <twylight> I just reinstalled kubuntu on my laptop
[02:24] <twylight> and everything is different
[02:24] <redshadowhero> intelikey: Actually, I can't seem to find that option there...
[02:24] <wsjunior> redshadowhero: system settings, keyboard & mouse, mouse and check double click checkbox ;-p
[02:25] <twylight> also, most of the packages available for download with apt and adept are missing
[02:25] <intelikey> !repos | twylight
[02:25] <ubotu> twylight: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:26] <redshadowhero> wsjunior: Thanks much.
[02:26] <twylight> why is everything so different?
[02:26] <twylight> I installed it with the same settings
[02:26] <wsjunior> how different?
[02:26] <twylight> everything
[02:27] <wsjunior> examples
[02:27] <twylight> down to the login screen
[02:27] <twylight> is completely changed
[02:27] <wsjunior> new version?
[02:27] <intelikey> ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu/edubuntu ????
[02:27] <twylight> kubunto
[02:27] <wsjunior> kubuntU
[02:27] <twylight> same version as before, feisty fawn
[02:27] <wsjunior> what would you like to do?!
[02:28] <twylight> how do I change the login screen?
[02:28] <GrahamA> In what way is it different?
[02:28] <intelikey> wsjunior kcontrol   iirc
[02:28] <GrahamA> Are you sure it's the same version? You haven't got Kubuntu/Ubuntu mixed up?
[02:29] <wsjunior> twylight: install a package called kdmtheme
[02:30] <wsjunior> and after it pick up some cool themes at www.kde-look.org
[02:30] <intelikey> also reinstall with the same /home will make different
[02:30] <twylight> apt-get couldn't find a package called kdmtheme
[02:31] <wsjunior> sudo apt-get update
[02:32] <redshadowhero> Does anyone know how I can shrink icon size?
[02:32] <redshadowhero> Its been a while since I last configured kubuntu.
[02:32] <twylight> still can't find it
[02:33] <intelikey> everything is in kcontrol
[02:36] <draik> !vmware
[02:36] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:37] <draik> !virtualizers
[02:37] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[02:37] <khaije1> what are the prefered voip clients on the linux desktop
[02:37] <khaije1> ?
[02:39] <draik> I'm going to lose my mind. I cannot mount a floppy and I can't get VMware to work. I have a nice system that I don't want going to waste...
[02:39] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), HD: 405/766GB, RAM: 2888/3035MB, 149 proc's, 6.50h up
[02:40] <intelikey> can't mount a floppy ?     sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media
[02:40] <redshadowhero> How about this: I don't like it that kubuntu brings up a menu every time I drag/drop an item. How do I change that?
[02:41] <draik> intelikey: It just sits there
[02:42] <khaije1> haha
[02:42] <khaije1> !it just sits there
[02:42] <draik> I also cannot get my SD card adapter (adapter for micro SD) to be read in my card reader
[02:44] <intelikey> draik  sudo mknod fd0 b 2 0 ;sudo modprobe floppy ;sudo mount fd0 /media
[02:45] <draik> Just did it all
[02:45] <draik> Still just sitting there.
[02:45] <draik> Lights are on, but nothing appears to be mounted
[02:45] <intelikey> ls /media
[02:45] <pauljw> do you have a disk in the drive?
[02:45] <Fragility> for some reason my computer boots really slowly, and it takes like a minute for my username to show when I start the command line
[02:46] <Fragility> but it otherwise works ok but not great
[02:47] <draik> intelikey: I popped out the floppy from the drive ------->   mount: fd0 is not a valid block device
[02:47] <draik> cdrom  cdrom0  cdrom1  floppy  floppy0  hda1  hdb1  sda1
[02:47] <draik> That is my "ls /media"
[02:48] <intelikey> of course it's not a valid block device when the disk is missing
[02:48] <intelikey> sounds to me like a bad disk   linux is not as "forgiving" about floppies as M$ is
[02:49] <intelikey> draik you can fsck fd0
[02:50] <draik> intelikey: I got a list for usage
[02:52] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38388
[02:52] <intelikey> of course that one is formated ext2
[02:52] <hero> i know this is basic and i should know this, but which control panel do i use to get alt+f1 bring up the k menu again? somehow, it got reset.
[02:53] <draik> intelikey: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38390
[02:53] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38389
[02:54] <intelikey> draik looks like you may not have mtools install ???
[02:55] <draik> You were right
[02:55] <draik> I just installed it
[02:55] <draik> Now what?
[02:55] <draik> Mount or fsck?
[02:55] <intelikey> fsck /dev/fd0
[02:55] <intelikey> or fd0
[02:55] <intelikey> you have two device nodes now i suppose
[02:56] <draik> Well, at least it seems to be doing something instead of telling me how to use fsck
[02:56] <intelikey> draik yeah.   mtools is not needed to "mount" M$ fs's   but it is needed to check them
[02:57] <hero> eh, i got it.
[02:57] <draik> I can't wait to have the "perfect" system where everything works.
[02:57] <michael-3142> in the systems setting/about me it says the administrator has disloud picture changes, how do I corrrect that.
[02:57] <draik> intelikey: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38391
[02:58] <intelikey> draik unplug all the networking stuff  remove any wireless crap  and remove all drives.       then everything left will work.
[02:58] <draik> I suppose I can use the Live CD every time, but where would I leave my images and such?
[02:59] <draik> lol
[02:59] <defcon>  I have a problem with my wireless network, on my ubuntu box I have a belkins usb card with ndiswrapper, I cannot connect to the internet with gnome network config, I can connect with wireless assistant, ie wlassistant and it connects me to my router, then I have to do dhconfig wlan0 to get an assigned Ip address, why wont gnome do this?
[02:59] <intelikey> draik ok that looks like track 0 error.    unless there is important data on the floppy   i recommend mkfs
[03:00] <intelikey> and it may not be formatable,  track 0  errors often result in a useless disk
[03:01] <belred> does anyone know a good blog server to install on kubuntu?
[03:01] <adenicio_> need help konqueror keep saying cant connect to host
[03:01] <draik> I had a HUGE issue with some floppies and having a sector 0 error message. They had win98 on them. This was the only one left that accepted the info for the startup
[03:01] <intelikey> defcon #ubuntu  might yeld better "gnome" help
[03:02] <michael-3142> in the systems setting/about me it says the administrator has disloud picture changes, how do I corrrect that.
[03:02] <adenicio_> need help konqueror keep saying cant connect to host
[03:02] <defcon> intelikey, ic, any ideas with "kde"?
[03:02] <defcon> I run both
[03:02] <draik> intelikey: sudo mkfs /dev/fd0    ?
[03:03] <intelikey> mkfs.<type>      what ever type fs you want
[03:03] <adenicio_> need help konqueror keep saying cant connect to host i cant go on any web site
[03:03] <intelikey> tab key for a list
[03:03] <draik> win98 was fat32, right?
[03:03] <draik> Ok
[03:03] <intelikey> yeah vfat
[03:03] <adenicio_> i can only chat
[03:04] <intelikey> defcon actually not i  but maybe someone else
[03:04] <intelikey> defcon i can't point you at the wiki on that
[03:04] <intelikey> !wifi | defcon
[03:04] <ubotu> defcon: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:04] <intelikey> might help      idk
[03:05] <intelikey> adenicio_  what happens if you type http://google.com   in the address bar ?
[03:05] <draik> intelikey: mkfs.vfat: unable to get diskette geometry for '/dev/fd0'
[03:06] <intelikey> draik hmmmm     sudo modprobe ide-floppy
[03:06] <draik> Ok
[03:06] <intelikey> fsck it again
[03:07] <adenicio_> intelikey: it says cannot conect to host
[03:07] <zenum> hey, how can i show verbose output when booting up with kubuntu? ie. looking behind the bootsplash
[03:08] <draik> zenum: -v usually does it, so I would assume just doing away with splash
[03:08] <draik> intelikey: Same error message as before: Could this be a zero-length partition?
[03:08] <intelikey> draik  ok lets have a serious look at it.     pastebin the output        lshw ;lsmod
[03:10] <intelikey> adenicio_  what is between you and the internet ?    router other boxes modem ????
[03:10] <adenicio_> intelikey: modem,conected to the com1 port
[03:10] <belred> does anyone know of any blog server to install on kubuntu?
[03:10] <ice9__> Does anybody know quite a bit about Wine and world of warcraft?
[03:11] <intelikey> adenicio_ any firewall ?
[03:11] <NSKY> hallo, ik ben helemaal nieuw met kubuntu. ken Suse redelijk. nu mijn vraag hoe word je SU in kubuntu??
[03:11] <draik> intelikey: says I should run as root. Run as root or show you what I have now as a regular user?
[03:11] <adenicio_> intelikey: where is the firewall in kubuntu?
[03:11] <intelikey> show
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> belred- something like Apache maybe?
[03:11] <intelikey> adenicio_ there isn't one by default
[03:11] <draik> intelikey: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38393
[03:11] <adenicio_> intelikey: this is my 5th time on the net on kubuntu i dont know much
[03:12] <NSKY> how can i become SU in Kubuntu ??
[03:12] <belred> Dragnslcr: but what script is used?
[03:12] <draik> NSKY: sudo <command>
[03:12] <intelikey> adenicio_ we all start somewhere.   for me, i learned by the try it and then reformat methood.
[03:12] <winbond> which kernels come with the new memory management implemented?
[03:12] <Dragnslcr> belred- to install Apache? I'd say use Adept
[03:12] <draik> adenicio_: Ask ubotu, just don't abuse him/her/it
[03:12] <draik> !firewall
[03:13] <adenicio_> intelikey: lool i format and restart but it give me the same prob
[03:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:13] <belred> Dragnslcr: apache is a web server, isn't there a blog sript already done?
[03:13] <NSKY> when i type su it wands the SU pass, my login pass does not accept
[03:13] <draik> !firewall | adenicio_
[03:13] <ubotu> adenicio_: please see above
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> belred- I'm sure there are plenty out there. Google would know
[03:13] <draik> NSKY: SUDO, not SU
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> belred- web scripts have pretty much nothing to do with Ubuntu
[03:14] <adenicio_> draik: ubotu?wa is it:he:she: a admin?
[03:14] <NSKY> okee, sudo = SU ?!
[03:14] <NSKY> thanks !!
[03:14] <draik> adenicio_: No, it's a bot
[03:14] <draik> NSKY: Yes. SU is to gain the login. SUDO is for the privilege
[03:14] <belred> Dragnslcr: yes, sorry... i just wanted to know what works best on ubuntu, that's all
[03:14] <adenicio_> ubotu: hello can u hell me with my prob?
[03:15] <draik> adenicio_: It's a roBOT. It's not going to answer you back any time soon
[03:15] <NSKY> it nothing like Suse, but i keep on trying !!
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> belred- web scripts aren't specific to Ubuntu. Anything that works with your web server will work fine
[03:16] <redshadowhero> does anyone know how I can change the drag/drop properties?
[03:16] <redshadowhero> everytime I drag/drop something, it asks me what to do
[03:16] <redshadowhero> I want it to move by default.
[03:17] <NSKY> zijn er ook nederlanders hier aanwezig. mijn engels in namelijk niet zo best ?
[03:17] <adenicio_> need help konqueror keep saying cant connect to host
[03:17] <adenicio_> need help konqueror keep saying cant connect to host
[03:18] <cookie> hi there  I have a problem of beryl
[03:18] <cookie> cookie@laptop-cookie:~$ beryl
[03:18] <NSKY> zijn er ook nederlanders hier aanwezig???
[03:18] <cookie> **************************************************************
[03:18] <cookie> * Beryl system compatiblity check                            *
[03:18] <cookie> **************************************************************
[03:18] <cookie> Detected xserver                                : AIGLX
[03:18] <cookie> Checking Display :0.0 ...
[03:18] <cookie> Checking for XComposite extension               : failed
[03:18] <cookie> No composite extension
[03:18] <cookie> beryl: No composite extension
[03:19] <draik> !pastebin | cookie
[03:19] <ubotu> cookie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:19] <draik> !beryl | cookie
[03:19] <ubotu> cookie: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:19] <dewitt> i can't update, when i try to update it say's another process is using adept. to close it but i can't find the problem,
[03:19] <adenicio_> need help konqueror keep saying cant connect to host
[03:19] <draik> dewitt: What is the other app?
[03:19] <draik> adenicio_: If someone knew, you'd get an answer
[03:19] <dewitt> can't tell it don''t say
[03:19] <draik> It should say
[03:19] <draik> Adept?
[03:20] <dewitt> let me check again
[03:20] <intelikey> draik is that a usb device ?
[03:20] <draik> Nope. Floppy ribbon cable
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> !aptfix | dewitt
[03:20] <ubotu> dewitt: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:20] <draik> The SD card is USB
[03:20] <root_> anyone got an intel ipw3945 wireless card working?
[03:21] <adenicio_> draik: but my prob is serious if i cant get it solve i cant even update download ect,only the chat works
[03:21] <drewh> dmesg is telling me the kill switch is off, but I can't find where to turn it on.
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> drewh- first lesson for the day: Never IRC as root
[03:21] <intelikey> draik give me a few....
[03:21] <draik> You don't need konqueror
[03:21] <draik> intelikey: No particular rush. You can when you can
[03:21] <draik> Thank you much for your time, intelikey
[03:22] <draik> adenicio_: You don't need konqueror for updates to Kubuntu. You also have other browser options
[03:22] <draik> Dragnslcr: I didn't know about aptfix. That's new to me as well
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> draik- heh, I only know about it from seeing it in here so often
[03:23] <adenicio_> draik: i dont have firefox
[03:24] <draik> adenicio_: Ok... so then get it ;)
[03:25] <adenicio_> draik: send it for me in a deb format
[03:25] <draik> Dragnslcr: I have a 70-page notebook... FULL of usefull commands
[03:25] <draik> adenicio_: Nobody is going to send you a deb for something in the repos.
[03:25] <dewitt> it says probably another adept application
[03:26] <intelikey> draik install fdutils and run fdlist   see if the drive is recognized
[03:26] <drewh> anyone know how to turn the kill switch to on on an intel ipw3945? I'm getting the following
[03:26] <drewh> Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work.
[03:26] <draik> intelikey: fdutils is the newest version
[03:27] <draik> intelikey: Sorry... Here are two lines...
[03:27] <draik> NAME   TYPE  STATUS
[03:27] <draik>  fd0  1440K  not mounted
[03:27] <adenicio_> draik: something in the ropos???its not in the adept installer
[03:27] <intelikey> hmm the device is recognized....  ok.
[03:28] <intelikey> draik   sudo mke2fs /dev/fd0      see if that works
[03:29] <intelikey> several disks  yes     drive  no.
[03:29] <intelikey> hitmanWilly i still have a 5.25 in this box    with disks.
[03:29] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, nice :)
[03:29] <Dragnslcr> I had a floppy drive about 15 years ago that ate disks. Turns out it was a known issue with that batch of drives
[03:30] <hitmanWilly> i pretty much live on flash drives these days
[03:30] <intelikey> Dragnslcr hmmm
[03:30] <Dragnslcr> Took it back to the place I bought it from, and they replaced it. Except they replaced it with a drive from the same batch
[03:30] <hitmanWilly> lol
[03:30] <intelikey> lol
[03:30] <intelikey> yeah
[03:30] <draik> Slightly off-topic... I recall Symantec released a HUGE batch of viral CDs for Norton AntiVirus
[03:31] <intelikey> were we disgruntaled after that Dragnslcr ?
[03:31] <draik> intelikey: /dev/fd0: Not enough space to build proposed filesystem while setting up superblock
[03:31] <Dragnslcr> Heh, just a bit
[03:31] <intelikey> draik do you have anyother floppies you could test with ?
[03:32] <intelikey> anyother   seems to now be one word....
[03:32] <intelikey> that's three times i've typoed the same missing space in the last hour
[03:33] <draik> intelikey: I'm trying another. I had a few, but I figured they were bad and put them away... and by away I mean in my sister's floppy disk batch
[03:34] <draik> intelikey: Same
[03:34] <drewh> anyone have any experience w/ an intel ipw3945?  How do I toggle the kill switch?
[03:34] <intelikey> little sister or older sister ?
[03:35] <draik> intelikey: If she only knew. Even then, she wouldn't understand. Younger (-2yr)
[03:35] <intelikey> oh my.   you've had it.....
[03:35] <ice9__> Does anybody know quite a bit about Wine and world of warcraft?
[03:35] <draik> intelikey: That's the same on 3 floppies now...
[03:35] <jeremyq> know a bit about wine
[03:36] <intelikey> draik ok  it's a hardware problem.   the floppy cable maybe.
[03:36] <jeremyq> but i reckon if you want to run windows apps
[03:36] <draik> intelikey: Hmmm
[03:36] <jeremyq> buy yourself a copy of vmare
[03:36] <draik> I don't want to shut down :(
[03:36] <jeremyq> and run windows
[03:36] <ice9__> nah, I just want WoW
[03:36] <jeremyq> okay well then use your windows partion
[03:36] <draik> jeremyq: I'm trying to run VMware, but it's not working
[03:37] <intelikey> draik or your drive may have "died"      maybe some young'en fed it oatmeal  ????
[03:37] <jeremyq> draik give me some cluse
[03:37] <jeremyq> clues
[03:37] <draik> intelikey: I guess it's dead. No, no young'uns
[03:37] <jeremyq> wow is cool
[03:38] <jeremyq> dont have time for games
[03:38] <GrahamA> On KTorrent, can I choose not to have peers who I download from really slowly?
[03:38] <draik> jeremyq: What do you need/want?
[03:38] <intelikey> draik just for kicks lets see     uname -r
[03:38] <jeremyq> nothing
[03:38] <Char80> Hi people, i want to install kubuntu, is a partition of 10 GB good? how many gigas u recommend me?
[03:38] <draik> 2.6.20-16-generic
[03:39] <intelikey> yeah that shouldn't be it.
[03:39] <intelikey> i'm going to call it hardware.
[03:40] <draik> But the same with my SD cards? XD works, but not SD
[03:40] <adenicio_> need help konqueror keep saying cant connect to host
[03:40] <adenicio_> need help konqueror keep saying cant connect to host
[03:41] <jeremyq> adenicio what host are you trying to connect to
[03:41] <N_S_K_Y> NickServ
[03:41] <intelikey> i was using my pocket knife to remove the wire ties on some ide cables one time (inside a box)  and didn't notice that i had cut two of the middle strands of one cable    hd did some really strange things for a few boots....  then failed enough to warrent removing the cover again to see what had happened....
[03:42] <intelikey> jeremyq i had him try google   said same error.
[03:42] <jeremyq> :-D
[03:42] <intelikey> jeremyq i also asked about something between him and the net   nothing but a modem.
[03:43] <jeremyq> modem
[03:43] <jeremyq> 56k
[03:43] <intelikey> on ttyS1
[03:43] <intelikey> or was it S0  ...
[03:43] <intelikey> anyway yes
[03:44] <intelikey> well i got some grub in my goozle, now i feel almost human again.
[03:44] <intelikey> back later
[03:46] <jeremyq> okay chatroom is quite
[03:46] <jeremyq> so lets ask everyone
[03:46] <jeremyq> who is awake
[03:46] <jeremyq> to say what country they are from
[03:47] <ash211> U.S.
[03:47] <jeremyq> london
[03:47] <jeremyq> from cape town south
[03:47] <jeremyq> africa
[03:47] <N_S_K_Y> any dutch people here ?
[03:48] <jeremyq> no but i  speak afrikaans and its similar to dutch
[03:48] <jeremyq> N_S_K_Y: what doen jy vandag
[03:48] <N_S_K_Y> is dat zo?, dat wist ik niet!
[03:49] <jeremyq> jy gee my a glimlag
[03:49] <jeremyq> dit is nie zo nie
[03:49] <N_S_K_Y> het is hier 03:49 am, ik ga zo dus slaapen
[03:50] <N_S_K_Y> hoe laat is het bij jou ?
[03:51] <jeremyq> N_S_K_Y: do you speak english: afrikaans and dutch are similar but make conversation confusing
[03:51] <hero> !kdvi
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdvi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <rojas> hello
[03:52] <Dragnslcr> Go go crashing OpenOffice!
[03:53] <rojas> spanis
[03:53] <jeremyq> hello rojas
[03:53] <adenicio_> need help konqueror keep saying cant connect to host*
[03:53] <adenicio_> need help konqueror keep saying cant connect to host*
[03:54] <rojas> hollo jeremyq
[03:54] <N_S_K_Y> my english is not so good, but i wand to know what is the time in your country?
[03:54] <NightBird> adenicio_: asking more than once isn't going to get people to respond faster...
[03:54] <N_S_K_Y> here it is 04:00am
[03:54] <NightBird> right now it's 9:54pm where I'm at...
[03:54] <adenicio_> now it tell me it conot find a useable proxy something
[03:54] <zibrah3ed> 20:54
[03:55] <rojas> bye
[03:55] <rojas> bye
[03:55] <NightBird> adenicio_: do other internet programs work fine?
[03:55] <rojas> see yuo
[03:55] <NightBird> bye rojas
[03:55] <N_S_K_Y> oke, i go to sleep for a view hours, must get up at 7am.
[03:56] <N_S_K_Y> see you and good bye
[03:56] <adenicio_> NightBird: need help konqueror keep saying cant connect to host
[03:56] <adenicio_> NightBird: just the chat and i tink adept instaler working to
[03:56] <draik> What is the command to read my USB connections?
[03:57] <draik> lsusb?
[03:57] <zibrah3ed> yes
[03:57] <N_S_K_Y> bye
[03:57] <draik> Thank you zibrah3ed
[03:57] <NightBird> adenicio_: so only konqueror is the problem?  double check that the other programs are ok
[03:57] <rojas> hello
[03:57] <rojas> jajaja
[03:57] <zibrah3ed> draik: lsusb -v will get you a more verbose output
[03:58] <NightBird> i.e., can you pull up a konsole instance, type 'ping www.google.com', and it resolve and able to communicate with the server?
[03:58] <draik> Thank you zibrah3ed
[03:58] <rojas> msn
[03:59] <draik> zibrah3ed: Would you know why the card reader lights up, but I cannot see the SD card in lsusb?
[03:59] <jeremyq> bye N_S_K_Y bit late
[04:00] <zibrah3ed> draik: is it a usb crad reader?
[04:00] <zibrah3ed> card*
[04:00] <draik> Yes
[04:01] <zibrah3ed> draik: I have never used one of those before
[04:02] <adenicio_> NightBird: other programes give me the same prob"cannot connect to host.but there a little note saying cannot find a proper proxy script
[04:02] <zibrah3ed> draik: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
[04:03] <ksivaji> hi
[04:03] <draik> zibrah3ed: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38396
[04:05] <zibrah3ed> draik: what is the name of your reader is it pro gear solo?
[04:05] <draik> Yes
[04:05] <draik> Well, AFAIK, just Pro-Gear
[04:06] <zibrah3ed> well it is being recognized by the kernel, it has a driver assigned i have no idea why lsusb would'nt show it
[04:07] <trakinas> ls -lah on folde /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins gives me: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   41 2007-07-21 23:03 flashplayer.xpt -> ../../flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt
[04:07] <zibrah3ed> You can't find it in konqueror storage media?
[04:07] <trakinas> but ls -lah ../../flashplugin-nonfree/flas../../flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so: No such file or directoryhplayer.xpt gives me:
[04:08] <trakinas> which means: no flash on konq
[04:08] <draik> zibrah3ed: The other thing too is that it won't read it when I place it in the 3.25" drive bay
[04:09] <trakinas> let me fix: ls -lah ../../flashplugin-nonfree/ gives me: ../../flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so: No such file or directory
[04:09] <zibrah3ed> draik: what? you put an sdcard in the floppy drive?
[04:10] <draik> zibrah3ed: Not exactly. It's got a 3.25" drive bay port where it can sit into a cradle or you can use it externally with a USB mini-A cable
[04:10] <trakinas> no one?
[04:10] <trakinas> !flash
[04:10] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:11] <trakinas> !Gnash
[04:11] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[04:11] <trakinas> !Restricted
[04:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:11] <draik> lsusb recognizes my HP printer, Creative Labs webcam and Canon Canoscan, even though I cannot use it
[04:12] <draik> zibrah3ed: Nothing mentioning Atech Flash or Pro-Gear
[04:13] <BluesKaj> draik , it may 'see" the connected hardware, but perhaps the drivers aren't configged .
[04:13] <zibrah3ed> draik: In your /proc/bus/usb/devices it specifically says atech pro-gear solo using driver usb-storage
[04:13] <draik> BluesKaj: I wouldn't doubt it. The scanner is roughly 7-8 years old!
[04:14] <draik> zibrah3ed: Right. That's fine, I guess, but it still won't read/load my SD card
[04:14] <Eyebee> I have a question.
[04:14] <draik> It's an SD card adapter for the microSD in my cell phone
[04:14] <draik> !ask | Eyebee
[04:14] <ubotu> Eyebee: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:14] <Eyebee> best player for mp3 net radio stream in Kubuntu
[04:15] <zibrah3ed> draik: sudo  apt-get install sg3-utils
[04:15] <BluesKaj> Amarok
[04:15] <Eyebee> tried amarok, wouldn't play.....
[04:15] <draik> Get it... Got it... Done
[04:15] <Eyebee> said invalid URL...
[04:15] <Eyebee> but it works in gnome in XMMS fine
[04:15] <draik> Eyebee: What are you using now? Kinda hard to narrow it down when we don't know where to start. I would begin with amaroK and MPlayer
[04:16] <draik> zibrah3ed: All done...
[04:16] <Eyebee> I have jsut changed from Gnome to KDE
[04:16] <Eyebee> I was using XMMS
[04:16] <BluesKaj> Eyebee, it's still the best player IMO, just needs some setting up
[04:16] <zibrah3ed> draik: sorry my connection is goin a little haywire with this thunderstorm
[04:16] <draik> You can use XMMS in Kubuntu
[04:16] <BluesKaj> you can run xmms in kde if you wish
[04:16] <trakinas> Eyebee: use Audacious
[04:16] <Eyebee> ok... yes, I jsut wondered if there was another recommended alternative in KDE that was all
[04:16] <trakinas> is just like XMMS, but in gtk2
[04:17] <Eyebee> trakinas: thanks..
[04:17] <billytwowilly> any of you try to install ubuntu on a dell xps m1330?
[04:17] <ardchoille> xmms has its own mp3 decoder, BTW.
[04:17] <zibrah3ed> draik: sudo sg_scan
[04:17] <Eyebee> yes...
[04:17] <draik> Eyebee: amaroK, XMMS (as you already know), kmPlayer... avoid TOTEM
[04:18] <draik> zibrah3ed: I sent you the 4-line output in a PM
[04:19] <trakinas> can anyone help me?
[04:19] <Eyebee> draik: thank you
[04:19] <ardchoille> trakinas: Help with what?
[04:19] <trakinas> ardchoille: flash + konq
[04:20] <draik> Eyebee: Not a problem. We are all here to help
[04:20] <ardchoille> Oh, I don't use flash, sorry
[04:20] <trakinas> strangely, it works on my other install where i have firefox installed.
[04:20] <trakinas> but not here
[04:20] <drewh> greetings...
[04:20] <trakinas> i dont want to install firefox only to make flash work on konq. is kind of pattetic
[04:20] <Eyebee> I use firefox in KDE too...
[04:21] <Eyebee> but I already it had it installed from the original Ubuntu
[04:21] <drewh> I have my wireless card found now, and I'm using kwifimanger, and I can see networks, but the "switch to network" button is greyed out...any idea why?
[04:21] <draik> Eyebee: You can have firefox use a specified player for your MMS
[04:21] <Eyebee> I'll check that out
[04:22] <redshadowhero> Now I can't seem to get beryl working.
[04:25] <drewh> anyone seen where the "switch to network" button is greyed out in kwifi-manager?  suggestions for best tools to configure wifi?
[04:27] <trakinas> manual install worled
[04:27] <trakinas> *worked
[04:27] <trakinas> i dont know why i try auto install with flash.
[04:28] <BluesKaj> java's an even bigger PITA then flash for some ppl
[04:28] <BluesKaj> than
[04:29] <eurico> hello. Where can I access my Windows folder?
[04:30] <BluesKaj> !ntfs-3g
[04:30] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:34] <ksivaji> !mysql
[04:34] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:34] <Aresilek> how do you view hidden files?
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> Aresilek, in what?
[04:34] <ksivaji> konqueror menu view->show hidden files
[04:35] <southafrikanse> how do you get a Windows file?
[04:35] <Aresilek> hitmanWilly: konqueror
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> Aresilek, see post from ksivaji
[04:36] <Aresilek> thanks ksivaji, hitmanWilly
[04:36] <ksivaji> southafrikanse you mean files in windows partitions
[04:36] <southafrikanse> ksivaji: yes
[04:36] <Aresilek> It worked! :-D
[04:36] <southafrikanse> ksivaji: I can't find sda1 here on Kubuntu
[04:36] <trakinas> some should correct ubotu
[04:36] <ksivaji> mount that windows partition
[04:36] <draik> BluesKaj: zibrah3ad was able to locate it in LSUSB, but it didn't have a title and it only seems to read my XD, not SD card/adapter
[04:37] <southafrikanse> ksivaji: Excuse me?
[04:37] <trakinas> lamp can be Linux+Apache+MySQL+Perl or PHP or Python
[04:37] <trakinas> :P
[04:37] <ksivaji> trakinas ho
[04:37] <southafrikanse> ksivaji: How can I mount it?
[04:38] <trakinas> i better be going for now.
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> !mount
[04:38] <ksivaji> trakinas i have mysql installed on my system but i dont know how to open
[04:38] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:38] <trakinas> ksivaji: have you started it?
[04:38] <trakinas> you might to, on konsole.
[04:39] <trakinas> you should read a tutorial about mysql. i cant help much
[04:39] <trakinas> as i was saying... Im leaving now. i will see if theres something up to do on this boring city
[04:39] <ksivaji> trakinas when i boot my system i could see starting sql server
[04:40] <trakinas> ksivaji: then you can access it via shell or via browser if you have any browser client
[04:40] <trakinas> i still tell you: read a faq or a guide on using mysql.
[04:40] <trakinas> is more useful. :] 
[04:41] <ksivaji> where i can find that
[04:41] <trakinas> data-bases are things you neee to read.
[04:41] <trakinas> i wont learn in a coupole of minutes.
[04:41] <BluesKaj> http//:localhost
[04:41] <trakinas> type mysql and hit tab twice
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> ksivaji, google is your friend :)
[04:41] <trakinas> it will show you a lot of possibilities
[04:41] <ksivaji> ok
[04:41] <trakinas> and then read a manual or smth about it and you will know for waht they are.
[04:41] <trakinas> cheers all
[04:44] <Admiral_Chicago> how do i change the default owner of a directory?
[04:44] <Admiral_Chicago> is it still chown
[04:44] <BluesKaj> err htttp://localhost , brings up apache2
[04:44] <Aresilek> How do I start a program with root in konqueror?
[04:45] <BluesKaj> well http://localhost will
[04:45] <martoya> Aresilek: man kdesu
[04:46] <Aresilek> hmmm i'll try that martoya
[04:49] <randy> anyone know how i can get my wacom tablet to work?
[04:51] <ksivaji> how to see my ip address
[04:52] <Admiral_Chicago> whatsmyip.org
[04:52] <jasf> hello
[04:53] <BluesKaj> randy , you prolly need to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to configure the drivers for the various needs such as stylus, eraser etc
[04:53] <jasf> i'm running 7.10 tribe3 ---
[04:53] <jasf> what is my root password? :(
[04:53] <jasf> it is NOT what i entered for my only user i setup during the install
[04:53] <BluesKaj> whatever pw you used to login
[04:53] <jasf> i tried
[04:53] <jasf> it is NOT
[04:53] <jasf> su - .... and using that same password is wrong
[04:54] <BluesKaj> sudo in kubuntu
[04:54] <jasf> su is there also
[04:54] <randy> BluesKaj how do i do that?
[04:55] <leo_> hello everyone
[04:55] <jasf> is there a default password from the tribe 3 ??? i just installed it fully - freshly formated my disk
[04:56] <jasf> plus - it seems my kmenu etc is messed up
[04:56] <BluesKaj> randy, i'm not really sure ...never used a tablet pc , Ive just seen the setup in the xorg.conf files in my editing for video and tuner drivers
[04:56] <leo_> does anyone know how to change default bootscreen (kubuntu)?
[04:56] <jasf> apt-setup does not work
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> leo_, its a major pita
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> leo_, i tried it once, somewhat unsuccessfully
[04:58] <Aresilek> martoya: it worked thanks :-D
[04:58] <leo_> thankz, hitman! I just want to personalize my bootscreen, (no offense to kubuntu)
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> leo_, np, understand completely :)
[05:00] <leo_> from where r u, bro? me, i'm from the philippines! i'm a newbie of linux.
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> leo_, tho im using a text mode login on both my machines now
[05:00] <jasf> hrm, amarok complainin of no decoder for .m4a
[05:00] <jasf> (my podcast)
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> leo_, southeastern US, tennessee
[05:01] <leo_> i tried kubuntu, i'm beginning to like it than my MS V!st@
[05:01] <jasf> kubuntu-restricted-extras is all i need right?
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> leo_, good, this is the begining of wisdom
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> :P
[05:02] <leo_> hitman, nice meetin you... my email is lmdicang@gmail.com probably you can help me personlizing more my kubuntu
[05:03] <leo_> hitman, yeahh! beginning of wisdom, tired being dumb, hehehe :o
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> leo_, what do you want to change? other than the bootscreen, that is
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> leo_, in kubuntu, most everything can be modified using right clicks
[05:04] <leo_> hitman, probably tweaks, fine tuning, themes and oh some documentation of kexi or maybe u can recommend a good database frontend like filemaker in windows
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> leo_, tweaks and fine tuning can be done through system settings or by the right click method, as far as db's, maybe open office
[05:08] <leo_> hitman, ok thanks. it's really a long way for me in open source kingdom :)
[05:08] <randy> Youll learn :D I sure have learned a ton in the past few days
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> leo_, less of a kingdom, more anarchy-like :)
[05:09] <randy> except with less death
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:10] <BluesKaj> !tablet
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <gumjo> hello, how do I set katapult to start with the system every time?
[05:10] <leo_> hitman, hahaha!   yeah! sorry for that, I just came from the kingdom of M!Cr0sof+
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, create a link in ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:11] <randy> ugh brb, ex-girlfriend is getting all clingy on me -___-
[05:12] <leo_> one thing hitman, how do I install an rpm package in kubuntu?, do i need some conversions?
[05:12] <randy> !rpm
[05:12] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:13] <BluesKaj> leo, there should be a deb or other ubuntu equivalent app
[05:13] <gumjo> hitmanWilly, not sure what you mean by link
[05:13] <randy> link = a short cut of types
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, ok, i'll walk you through the process
[05:14] <randy> all hail hitmanWilly and his wise ways!
[05:14] <gumjo> right
[05:14] <leo_> blue & ubotu, I tried to search for a driver for my printer (Epson R210). but it's only on rpm package
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> im not that good :)
[05:15] <randy> you know more than i do XD
[05:15] <hatter> where do i tell kde to remember the session ?
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, anyway, open up a konsole window and cd .kde/Autostart
[05:15] <leo_> hitman, blue, ubuto, What site can I go for any device driver for my kubuntu?
[05:16] <gumjo> done
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> leo_, most of the major ones are already included and setup
[05:16] <leo_> does KDE 4 already stable to use?
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, ok, kate start.sh
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, there are other ways to do this, this is just how I prefer
[05:17] <randy> hatter what do you want it to remember?
[05:17] <gumjo> yes, I see an empty file open up in text editor
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, ok, add the following 2 lines:
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, #!/bin/sh
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, katapult
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, then save and close
[05:18] <gumjo> so now I can write any app name and it opens up with kde?
[05:19] <hatter> randy , superkaramba
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, after 1 more step, they will :)
[05:19] <hatter> in gnome its sessions,  it will remember what was previously opened
[05:19] <gumjo> I see
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, you can add any cmd into this file and it will run on kde startup
[05:19] <randy> hatter try what hitmanWilly is saying, theyre going over how to get things to start up with KDE too
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, just don't delete the first line
[05:20] <leo_> thanks everyone
[05:20] <gumjo> ok, will remember that
[05:21] <hatter> randy, sure, but remembering the current session is easier :)
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, anyway, once you're ready, save and close
[05:21] <randy> hatter haha, im not sure how that works though, the only place ive seen remember session was in the login screen
[05:21] <hatter> randy, no worries,  it works good in gnome, i am sure its in kde somehwere
[05:22] <randy> theres LOCK session but i dont know if thats the same
[05:22] <gumjo> done. thanks a lot for your help
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, one more step
[05:22] <Dragnslcr> randy- I remember turning that off. Let me see if I can find it
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, chmod a+x start.sh
[05:22] <ksivaji> !lamp
[05:22] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, that makes the start.sh file executable
[05:23] <gumjo> I did that but it didnt return anything
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, that's fine, no error means it worked :)
[05:23] <Dragnslcr> randy- System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager
[05:24] <gumjo> ah..I see
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, if you want to test, it, log out and log back in
[05:24] <randy> hatter, Dragnslcr answered your question  :D !
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, btw, congratulations on you're first shell script :)
[05:24] <Dragnslcr> Er, right
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> *your
[05:24] <Dragnslcr> Sorry, apparently I can't read very well tonight
[05:25] <randy> its okay  :D Its late
[05:25] <gumjo> doesn't sound so difficult now :)
[05:25] <Dragnslcr> And I've been gaming, so my brain is extra-crispy
[05:25] <gumjo> Ok, I'm going to check it!
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, k
[05:25] <hatter> Dragnslcr, thx
[05:25] <randy> Dragnslcr, what game you playin?
[05:25] <Dragnslcr> Tremulous
[05:26] <randy> bah, i suck horribly at that game
[05:26] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[05:26] <randy> especially aliens
[05:26] <Dragnslcr> I'm not all that great either
[05:26] <Dragnslcr> I'm starting to get back into shape
[05:26] <randy> i think my ratio was 2:15
[05:26] <gumjo> hitmanWilly, thank you again. It works
[05:26] <Dragnslcr> It had been a few years since Gloom, so it's taking me a while to get used to aliens again
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, :)
[05:27] <K-Ryan> Hey everyone
[05:27] <randy> Hiya K-Ryan!
[05:27] <BluesKaj> hey K-Ryan
[05:27] <K-Ryan> I need to get knetworkmanager, network-manager and wpasupplicant over to a laptop.
[05:27] <K-Ryan> Problem is, it doesn't have an internet connection working.
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, like I said, there are other ways to do it, basically any executable file in that dir will start on kde startup
[05:27] <randy> Well everyone :D Its been nice chatting but sadly I must leave this place of knowledge :( for i must work tommorrow and need my power nap :D
[05:28] <K-Ryan> So, how would I go about putting this stuff on a floppy?
[05:28] <Dragnslcr> K-Ryan- I think you can install packages from the CD/DVD as if it were a repository
[05:28] <randy> try a crossover cable directly connecting the 2 computers
[05:28] <K-Ryan> randy: Don't have one =/
[05:28] <BluesKaj> yup, sacktime for me too ...nite all , take care .
[05:28] <K-Ryan> Dragnslcr: That's a good idea...
[05:28] <randy> K-Ryan oh :( Id make one for ya if I could but im not there >_>
[05:29] <K-Ryan> randy: Thanks anyway =P
[05:29] <randy> night!
[05:29] <Dragnslcr> K-Ryan- just don't ask me how to do it
[05:29] <K-Ryan> Dragnslcr: The thought though, is the beginning
[05:30] <Dragnslcr> Could try just popping in the disc and see if Adept automagically looks at it
[05:30] <Dragnslcr> hitmanWilly- it's not too hard, you just chop off the end of the cable, move a couple wires, and put a new cap on it
[05:30] <Dragnslcr> Well, it's not complicated
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> Dragnslcr, yeah, i know that part, just which wires to move :)
[05:31] <Dragnslcr> It's still a pain
[05:31] <Dragnslcr> Think it's the blue and green wires that swap
[05:31] <Dragnslcr> Maybe
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> DON"T CUT THE RED WIRE!!
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:32] <K-Ryan> Well I'm going to go give that a try
[05:32] <gumjo> alright, I have to get some sleep. Thanks again, hitmanWilly. Really helpful channel
[05:32] <K-Ryan> Figure it out somehow *shrug*
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> anyway, im off to bed, work tomorrow
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> gumjo, np :)
[05:32] <Dragnslcr> I can tell you that dealing with color-coded cables really sucks for someone that's red-green colorblind
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> that would :P
[05:33] <dr_willis> Hmm.. Some how my X cursors got messed up when i installed artwiz-cursor. and now X aint starting.. :(
[05:36] <littleeye> howdy
[05:36] <littleeye> can anyone help me with a keyboard problem, i choose UK layout by accident during install and want to change it to north american
[05:37] <littleeye> i cant seem to find where to change the keyboard layout in kubuntu
[05:38] <littleeye> anyone?
[05:38] <dr_willis> cant say that ive ever messed with that stuff
[05:38] <dr_willis> check the keyboard settings contorl panel thanggy :)
[05:39] <littleeye> might have toi reinstall dang it
[05:39] <jonathon> i think i can help
[05:39] <dr_willis> or do a little research.. its doable. :) ya just got to firgure out where.
[05:39] <littleeye> its not in system settings or kcontrol
[05:39] <jonathon> go to system, preferences, keyboard
[05:40] <jonathon> click on the layout tab
[05:40] <littleeye> i dont have system preferences on this kubuntu
[05:40] <jonathon> click add and choose u.s. english
[05:41] <littleeye> are you in kde johnathon?
[05:42] <jonathon> no 'system' on the bar at the top?
[05:42] <jonathon> yeah, i think so
[05:43] <jonathon> i'm having a sound issue, if anyone can help
[05:45] <Dragnslcr> littleeye- System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout
[05:46] <dr_willis> Logical :)
[05:48] <jonathon> i don't have any sound. the system recognizes my sound card, nothing is muted on the mixer, i've removed and reinstalled alsa and alsa-oss, and still nothing
[05:50] <Dragnslcr> What output are you using?
[05:50] <Dragnslcr> It might be muted in alsamixer
[05:53] <jonathon> how do you unmute in alsamixer?
[05:53] <dr_willis> the m key
[05:55] <jonathon> nothing's muted
[05:55] <littleeye> thnaks Gragnlcr !
[05:58] <Linux_Galore> anyone know of a tool to undelete files on a fast32 usb disk
[05:59] <Linux_Galore> fat32*
[06:01] <elite101> MaTiAz, hey wants the oftopic kubuntu gain? its elite1!!
[06:02] <elite101> #kubuntu offtopic
[06:02] <elite101> #kubuntuofftopic
[06:02] <mzanfardino> what is the command to rebuild the grub menu?
[06:05] <elite101> what is the kubuntu off topic channel?
[06:05] <dr_willis> its in the TOPIC dude
[06:05] <elite101> yeah like #kubuntuofftopic?
[06:05] <elite101> with out ?
[06:05] <Dragnslcr> Kubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.kubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs!https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Large pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please.
[06:05] <elite101> #psp-programming
[06:10] <elite101> i messed up my kubuntu yesterday i did that crtl alt f6 and it crashed it wounldnt mount my hdd and i got this error about tty?
[06:11] <elite101> how do other ppl see IRC? do u have to download it or?
[06:12] <dr_willis> elite101,  huh?
[06:12] <elite101> do other ppl like on windows have to download IRC?
[06:13] <Aresilek> Hello
[06:13] <elite101> because its not on windows at all
[06:13] <Aresilek> How do I manage my wireless network profiles?
[06:13] <CS5> Does anyone know why my azureus might get to 1.6 MB down and stop, no matter how many good peers I have?
[06:14] <dr_willis> there are ample irc clients for windows.
[06:14] <CS5> Seeds are great works well under utorrent on windows box.
[06:14] <dr_willis> and even java/web based ones...
[06:14] <elite101> okay
[06:14] <elite101> but can they connect to a channel just like by #channel?
[06:14] <dr_willis> I use xchat under linux and windows.. client is identical
[06:14] <elite101> okay
[06:14] <CS5> Me too xchat rules
[06:15] <Aresilek> How do I manage my wireless network profiles?
[06:15] <elite101> its for windows? is it a downloaded program or a webbased one?
[06:15] <elite101> xchat
[06:15] <CS5> No linux
[06:15] <dr_willis> Xchat is a normal program.
[06:15] <dr_willis> theres free versions for windows.
[06:15] <elite101> oh i c
[06:15] <CS5> Comes as a package for Ubuntu
[06:16] <CS5> Is there Dr?
[06:16] <dr_willis> yes there are. :)
[06:16] <CS5> Nice
[06:16] <dr_willis> several variants also.. some have a few bugs
[06:16] <elite101> why dont u use konverstation? instead of xchat for ubuntu
[06:16] <CS5> Dr_willis do you have any idea why alot of trackers dont like linux connections for their torrent?
[06:16] <dr_willis> I dont like konversation
[06:17] <dr_willis> CS5,  they are stupid? :)
[06:17] <CS5> Me neither
[06:17] <CS5> Lol
[06:17] <CS5> I agree dr
[06:17] <dr_willis> I use ktorrent and never have issues
[06:17] <CS5> I am under edgy
[06:17] <dr_willis> then again if you use azurus - its identical under linux and windows
[06:17] <CS5> I can still get in in the repositories?
[06:17] <CS5> I am
[06:17] <CS5> and no go
[06:17] <CS5> i always stop at like 2 mb or less
[06:18] <CS5> I used it under dapper
[06:18] <CS5> I like ktorrent
[06:18] <dr_willis> the older ktorrent had some nasty bugs
[06:18] <dr_willis> id say upgrade it.
[06:18] <CS5> Oh yes?
[06:18] <CS5> Ok
[06:18] <CS5> No encryption either I remember in the old one
[06:18] <elite101> lol i prob have the old ktorrent
[06:18] <dr_willis> Yep. dont think that was there.
[06:18] <Aresilek> How do I manage my wireless network profiles?
[06:18] <dr_willis> i can understand trackers blocking the old clients with bugs/security issues
[06:19] <CS5> Yes, but this is latest azureus
[06:19] <CS5> I dont get it
[06:19] <CS5> :|
[06:19] <dr_willis> I dont use  azureus, so cant tell ya anything about it.
[06:19] <elite101> system settings/network settings
[06:19] <CS5> NP, ty
[06:19] <dr_willis> could be your ip or range is blocked...
[06:19] <dr_willis> or 10000+ other reasons
[06:19] <CS5> Maybe I am on cable though that'd suck
[06:19] <CS5> there a good proxy progy in ubuntu?
[06:20] <dr_willis> dozens of proxy programs out.
[06:20] <dr_willis> depends on your proxuy needs :)
[06:20] <CS5> Just socks or something for torrents.
[06:20] <CS5> Try that and see.
[06:20] <dr_willis> i cant say that ive ever seen a need for proxy with torrents.
[06:20] <CS5> It works under windows though so I dont think thats it
[06:20] <dr_willis> I did try 'TOR' once with Torrents. :)  but that was not needed
[06:20] <CS5> Just on here
[06:20] <Aresilek> test
[06:20] <elite101> i wonder how good kubuntu would be on xbox360?
[06:21] <dr_willis> elite101,  its awful hard to type with a gamepad.
[06:21] <dr_willis> :)
[06:21] <CS5> lol
[06:21] <CS5> Very hard indeed
[06:21] <dr_willis> I DID see a game controller that was a full keyboard. (some how)
[06:21] <Aresilek> can i use wirless and a wired networks at the same time in kubuntu?
[06:21] <CS5> Yes
[06:21] <dr_willis> Aresilek,  yes should be able to.
[06:21] <CS5> aresilek:yes
[06:21] <dr_willis> thats how you make a wireless access point. :)
[06:21] <Aresilek> Hw?
[06:21] <Aresilek> How?
[06:22] <dr_willis> configure both conections. then figure out what you are trying to do :)
[06:22] <dr_willis> the use the iptables rules to do what you want to do
[06:22] <elite101> dr_willis, usb keyboard!!!!
[06:22] <Aresilek> when i try to connect to one, the other one disconnects :-S
[06:22] <Aresilek> i'm not trying to bridge or anything
[06:22] <dr_willis> i found a PS2 controller with a Mini-USB keyboard on it once. :)
[06:22] <elite101> i think i know what his problem is im on wireless too
[06:23] <Aresilek> just not have to disconnect one to connect to another
[06:23] <Aresilek> what's that elite101?
[06:23] <dr_willis> thats not using both at the same time. :)
[06:23] <elite101> dr_willis, what was it hipgear or madcatz?
[06:23] <dr_willis> elite101,  i forget. it was on sale for $5 - i gaveit to my brother.
[06:23] <elite101> im on wireless too i had to do some configureing to connect and stuff
[06:23] <elite101> dr_willis, nice one lol
[06:24] <Aresilek> dr_willis: if i connect to the internet with a modem and connect to my network with an ethernet arn't i using both a t the same time?
[06:24] <elite101> dr_willis, would be very helpful when punching in thoes gameshark codes lmao that was brutal
[06:24] <underdog5004> oh man, I missed a joke...
[06:25] <hatter> anyone here use superKaramba ?  my themes after reboot are not appearing in the superkaramba themes section,  but it is saying they are installed
[06:25] <underdog5004> hatter, that happened to me a couple of times...
[06:25] <Aresilek> oh well, i need to go, goodnight
[06:25] <underdog5004> make sure that the themes are still running when you shutdown...that solved the problem for me
[06:25] <elite101> lol very dumb but oh well, is there a identical windows theme for kubuntu?/linux?
[06:26] <underdog5004> elite101, kbdx, I think
[06:26] <elite101> lol
[06:26] <elite101> just like the blue task bar and everything
[06:26] <underdog5004> at least, that's for your menu bar...there are vista/xp themes out there...www.kdelookl.org
[06:26] <hatter> underdog5004, did you find out where they are ?
[06:26] <elite101> is lindows any good?
[06:26] <underdog5004> hatter, try ~/.superkaramba
[06:26] <elite101> i heard it can run exe's?
[06:26] <vbatts> linspire
[06:26] <elite101> yeha
[06:26] <hatter> underdog5004, thx
[06:26] <underdog5004> np
[06:26] <underdog5004> I'm not totally sure about that though
[06:27] <elite101> linspire does it work good and everything
[06:27] <vbatts> its just another linux that they have tried to make an easy transition for windows users
[06:27] <underdog5004> elite101, what I don't like about it is it seems to try to be windows and linux...either be one or the other, you know?
[06:27] <elite101> yeah
[06:27] <underdog5004> but that's just me
[06:27] <underdog5004> ha ha
[06:28] <hatter> ah, the .superkaramba is in the home directory but the home superkaramba can not see hidden directories
[06:28] <elite101> i did think it would be good its like a windows user trying out linux but still hugging the windows part
[06:28] <elite101> i wouldnt mind it i mean it is more secure than windowsxp and i would be able to run games and stuff (im not sure how good?)
[06:29] <underdog5004> elite101, exactly...gotta make a clean break...I dual booted xp for a while, but I just never used ubuntu...once I wiped/installed ubuntu alone, I started learning...FAST!
[06:29] <elite101> i have the same
[06:29] <elite101> dual boot but love kubuntu better!!
[06:29] <underdog5004> ha ha
[06:30] <vbatts> yeah, i haven't owned a windows machine for over two years now,
[06:30] <underdog5004> it was always easier to stick with what I knew...once I tossed that out, that's when I started getting it
[06:30] <elite101> but i am still learning thou
[06:30] <elite101> i got the cd in the mail, beining a windows user as i am wasnt easy to install stuff so i quiet using it
[06:30] <underdog5004> vbatts, ha ha, working on my first year...
[06:30] <underdog5004> elite101, cool, you used shipit?
[06:30] <vbatts> all 7 machines at my house are either (K)ubuntu or SuSE
[06:31] <underdog5004> elite101, hmm, do you have a high speed internet connection?
[06:32] <elite101> not shure cannonconical or something?
[06:32] <elite101> once my windows crashed after the 8th time and it was always missign ntds.sys i just sayed screw it poped in the live cd and installed it!!
[06:32] <elite101> well yes kinda
[06:32] <elite101> its wirelesss cogeco highspeed
[06:32] <Biovore> I find it ironic they use the term highspeed with wireless.. :-/
[06:33] <Biovore> marketing people are such idiots..
[06:33] <underdog5004> elite101, what was the problem installing stuff? If I was you, I would install synaptic (open a terminal (konsole) and type in sudo apt-get install synaptic) then use that to install whatever you want
[06:34] <elite101> yeah i am not going to do that on this kubuntu its way to old
[06:34] <elite101> i am going to get 7.10
[06:34] <underdog5004> Biovore, I don't believe that there is any reasonably priced high speed in the USA
[06:34] <CS5> what sound progy gives you online radio feeds?
[06:34] <elite101> or something higher
[06:34] <underdog5004> elite101, don't do that until it's ready
[06:34] <underdog5004> stick with 7.04 or even 6.10
[06:34] <CS5> rythmbox?
[06:34] <underdog5004> 7.10 isn't production-ready yet
[06:34] <CS5> anyone, anyone, doc?
[06:34] <Biovore> its uber uber uber beta
[06:35] <Biovore> rythembox.. might want to try the gnome group #ubuntu
[06:35] <CS5> yep...nm, ty
[06:35] <underdog5004> Biovore, looks ok in my vm...but I don't want to chance it in trw
[06:35] <elite101> im on 6.06.1 LTS kubuntu
[06:35] <elite101> OLD
[06:35] <underdog5004> elite101, yeah, but also still supported
[06:35] <Biovore> elite101: well 6.06 is the long term support release
[06:35] <elite101> i know
[06:36] <Biovore> the one after gusty will be the next long term release I am told..
[06:36] <GrahamA> They plan LTSes?
[06:36] <underdog5004> yup
[06:36] <Biovore> yup.. thats what dapper was.. 6.06  6 year support I think..
[06:36] <GrahamA> What exactly do you get as support?
[06:36] <Biovore> as aposed the 18 month suport
[06:36] <underdog5004> I thought it was 3 on desktop, 5/6 on server
[06:36] <Biovore> they do security updates..
[06:37] <Biovore> and feature updates if its supported still
[06:37] <elite101> do any of you code in c++ and understand the language?
[06:37] <GrahamA> So Mark Shuttleworth won't come round my house and fix my wireless issues?
[06:37] <Biovore> elite101: I do all the time..
[06:38] <GrahamA> I code C, but I don't understand a word of it.
[06:38] <Biovore> GrahamA: well conical only does that if you pay for support..
[06:38] <elite101> okay what is this for?
[06:38] <GrahamA> :P
[06:38] <elite101> http://rafb.net/p/hNUy4l44.html
[06:38] <GrahamA> Biovore: You seem to know something, what's better for a server, Debian or Ubuntu?
[06:38] <GrahamA> Thing is, I know they're similar, but Ubuntu has a more updated set of packages.
[06:38] <Biovore> I think debian..
[06:39] <Biovore> there very simular though..
[06:39] <GrahamA> But... Debian is... well Debian.
[06:39] <GrahamA> I actually can't connect to my debian box... that could be an issue.
[06:39] <elite101> its a code for a psp but im not sure what there going to use it for plus his coded it wrong hehe
[06:39] <elite101> can u check out that link and see what it is?
[06:40] <Biovore> elite101: It looks like it opens a tcp link to an ip on port and and sends http get request and then saves it to a file..
[06:40] <GrahamA> Biovore: How can I search all addresses on my network?
[06:40] <elite101> so in psp terms what would it do if i know about the psp
[06:40] <Biovore> basicly dsxsockets looks like a class someone wrote to do BSD Sockets
[06:41] <Biovore> elite101: Its a non-standard thing..
[06:41] <elite101> so its like a logger?
[06:41] <elite101> what good what that do?
[06:41] <Biovore> dsxsockets is a propritary class interface sony made.
[06:41] <Biovore> elite101: well it looks like it downloads a webpage or something over http and saves it..
[06:42] <elite101> okay ic
[06:42] <elite101> well think of ad-hoc between psp's
[06:42] <elite101> could it be for that?
[06:42] <elite101> connecting to a psp to download a file from the other psp
[06:42] <Biovore> elite101: no clue.. you didn't even post a complete function there..
[06:42] <elite101> weird i can read it
[06:42] <elite101> cant*
[06:42] <underdog5004> elite101, I'm sure there are irc rooms for that sort of thing.
[06:42] <underdog5004> !ot
[06:42] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:43] <elite101> i know thats where i got it from
[06:43] <elite101> C++ is so hard
[06:43] <Biovore> all it looks like to me is it opens a tcp connection to 74.50.1.185:80 and gets index.php
[06:43] <elite101> what is databuffer?
[06:43] <underdog5004> hmm, that ip goes to www.lunarpages.com
[06:44] <Biovore> and array of bytes
[06:44] <underdog5004> a web hosting company
[06:44] <elite101> yeah
[06:44] <elite101> lol just going to say that
[06:44] <Biovore> generaly used for storing data from a buffer (or in this case the received data from a TCP recv)
[06:45] <elite101> okay so why is it connecting to the lunar webpage or just a static ip?
[06:45] <raylu> should iinstall sun-java6-bin or -jre?
[06:45] <Biovore> elite101: just a hardcoded static
[06:46] <Biovore> raylu: I have both..
[06:46] <elite101> okay so there is no relation to lunarpages
[06:46] <raylu> ...so...which one should i install?
[06:47] <Biovore> elite101: well its a IP address.. what it happens to belong to or reverse to, I don't know..
[06:47] <raylu> but you can find out, Biovore
[06:48] <elite101> where?
[06:48] <raylu> try "dig" on the ip
[06:48] <raylu> elite101, what is the ip anyway?
[06:48] <elite101> 1sec
[06:48] <Biovore> well the IP looks like it reverse to roland.lunarservers.com
[06:48] <evjunior09> Anyway to change the look of Kubuntu to look like Windows XP?
[06:48] <elite101> looks like a class someone wrote to do BSD Sockets
[06:48] <elite101> lol
[06:48] <raylu> evjunior09, Redmond
[06:48] <elite101> i have it saved
[06:49] <Biovore> evjunior09: there is.. check out www.kde-look.org
[06:49] <raylu> Redmond comes with kubuntu, iirc
[06:49] <Biovore> ^ thats good too
[06:49] <Biovore> But I don't want my linux looking like windows..
[06:49] <elite101> Biovore, its 74.50.1.185
[06:49] <raylu> lol, yeah, that sorta defeats the purpose
[06:49] <elite101> it goes to a port 80 i think?
[06:49] <raylu> -bin depends on -jre, o.0
[06:50] <evjunior09> Wait...so Redmond will make my computer look like Windows?
[06:50] <raylu> elite101, that makes no sense
[06:50] <raylu> evjunior09, the skin will, yes
[06:50] <DJ-KING> I have installed Kubuntu 6.06 , where do I find good sources.list file so i could get alot of applications i need ?
[06:50] <Biovore> well the program pull index.php from that ip
[06:50] <raylu> evjunior09,  but seriously, why do you want that?
[06:50] <raylu> DJ-KING, the one that comes with kubuntu is a "good" list; what apps do you want?
[06:50] <Biovore> try this in a webrowser: http://74.50.1.185/index.php
[06:50] <elite101> raylu, what made no sense?
[06:50] <evjunior09> Because i want it. I dont want people telling me that Windows is ugly ect. i get it everytime i ask questions
[06:50] <DJ-KING> raylu: amsn , mplayer , etc
[06:50] <raylu> Biovore, virtual hosts...
[06:50] <raylu> DJ-KING, what does a search for those come up with
[06:50] <evjunior09> Sorry for being a b**ch
[06:51] <raylu> elite101, "it goes to :80?"
[06:51] <Biovore> well the C code uses the IP and not an hostname in the request
[06:51] <elite101> why would that code be failing?
[06:51] <Biovore> GET /index.php HTTP/1.0\r\n   host: 74.50.1.185\r\n\r\n
[06:51] <raylu> Biovore is correct: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=74.50.1.185
[06:51] <Biovore> elite101: well the site its looking at dosn't exists apparently
[06:51] <raylu> so, what is this about anyway?
[06:51] <elite101> raylu, when it comes to this stuff im a newb lol
[06:52] <raylu> elite101, then what was that about a BSD socket?
[06:52] <DJ-KING> raylu: i can't get these applications from the current sources
[06:52] <elite101> http://rafb.net/p/hNUy4l44.html
[06:52] <raylu> DJ-KING, are any of them commented?
[06:52] <elite101> lol i copd that and search on google
[06:52] <elite101> to see and help
[06:52] <elite101> me understand this c++
[06:53] <Biovore> elite101: dsxWifi: Error: dsxWifiRecv failed. <-- thats the error you getting?
[06:53] <underdog5004> omg...just like that guy the other day that wanted help with jack the ripper to "test out my password strength"
[06:53] <elite101> yeah well no me the person that wrote it is having troble line 39/40
[06:53] <raylu> 74.50.1.185 is one of lunarpages shared servers...
[06:53] <elite101> the are coding in html, obv.
[06:53] <elite101> yeah we know
[06:53] <Biovore> jack the ripper is slow.. might take several years to crack a password with it..
[06:53] <elite101> lol but i think its a static ip? maybe to a psp
[06:54] <Biovore> elite101: yeah static.. its fixed in the code..
[06:54] <raylu> ...they are not coding in html...wtf?
[06:54] <elite101> yeah it might have something to do about conecting to the psp wirelessly
[06:54] <elite101> maybe no clue?
[06:55] <Biovore> from the code snippit you posted it just gose to that IP and pulls index.php..  if it gets it returns the data in returnBuffer else it spits an error.
[06:56] <Biovore> has nothing to do with talking to another psp it looks..
[06:56] <elite101> so he coded it wrong?
[06:56] <elite101> what ever he was doing?
[06:56] <elite101> okay so no ad-hoc at all
[06:57] <elite101> when i look at the html code all i can read from it is WI-FI lol
[06:57] <Biovore> elite101: well maybe it does it via http.. on psp puts data on a http server and the other gets it..
[06:57] <elite101> yeah like infastructure to another psp
[06:57] <elite101> online play?
[06:57] <elite101> or download
[06:57] <Biovore> well the code snipit doesn't say
[06:58] <evjunior09> How do i install the KDM Theme Manager?
[06:58] <elite101> wow u made more sense than the person who acuttally coded it he doesnt even know what he is doing i dont think
[06:58] <Biovore> evjunior09: you can apt-get it
[06:58] <elite101> Biovore, you are very smart!!!
[06:58] <evjunior09> Soo.... sudo apt-get install kdm theme manager?
[06:58] <Biovore> evjunior09: I think the package is call kdmtheme
[06:59] <elite101> do u have the c++ program can u just run it in there and something will come up?
[06:59] <Biovore> sudo apt-get install kdmtheme    I think...
[06:59] <Biovore> elite101: well I know nothing about psp
[06:59] <evjunior09> Yep. Thanks
[06:59] <elite101> okay its a handheld gamming device
[06:59] <Biovore> evjunior09: to access it though I think you need to run kdesu kcontrol in a shell though..
[07:00] <Biovore> elite101: I know what one is.. but I don't know alot more then that.. I never used one..
[07:00] <evjunior09> Okay you lost me
[07:00] <elite101> okay
[07:00] <Biovore> evjunior09: the kdm-theme manager I don't think shows up the in the kubuntu settings thing..
[07:01] <evjunior09> Yeah it dosent...so how do i access it again?
[07:01] <Biovore> evjunior09: in shell type "kdesu kcontrol"  and enter you user password when prompted.. should see it on the bottom call system Administration.
[07:02] <Biovore> that gives you the full kde control panel..
[07:02] <Biovore> kdesu make it so you run it as root so you can configure system wide things..
[07:03] <evjunior09> oh okay got it
[07:03] <Biovore> I think there is a package with some other kdm themes in the repos too..
[07:04] <Biovore> evjunior09: apt-get install kde-kdm-themes for some extra themes
[07:04] <elite101> Biovore, they stole the code of someones hard work form there svn i will bring up the link where is psp app or program is
[07:04] <elite101> they hack ppl's svn and steal code
[07:05] <Biovore> elite101: well unless you got a definition for all the custom stuff they using like dsxSocket.
[07:06] <Biovore> its hopeless process
[07:06] <elite101> yeah i sec i am trying to find the user Test30 and his app dsx or something nothing is comming up i wanna see what he does
[07:07] <evjunior09> Biovore: Okay so i want a new theme. but it wont let me add any because it asks for the URL
[07:07] <evjunior09> What URL?
[07:07] <Biovore> www.kde-look.org
[07:07] <Biovore> kdm themes is on the bottom.
[07:08] <evjunior09> Right, and im at the one i want....now what
[07:09] <Biovore> depends how it is distrubited
[07:09] <Biovore> is it a tar.gz or tar.bz
[07:10] <evjunior09> Biovore: this is the one i want if it matters : http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/OpenSky?content=62651
[07:11] <Biovore> evjunior09: try downloading it to your home dir..
[07:11] <Biovore> and then in the kde theme manager select the "install new theme" button and select the tarball.
[07:12] <evjunior09> its a tar fike
[07:12] <evjunior09> *file
[07:12] <Biovore> (should work if its packaged correctly)
[07:12] <Biovore> else you have to do the manual install
[07:13] <kaito> Hola, hay alguna manera de hacer que mi texto lo pueda leer la maquina y darme un mp3 como producto final?
[07:14] <Biovore> !es kaito
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es kaito - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <stdin> !es | kaito
[07:14] <ubotu> kaito: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:14] <bsundsrud> Hi, is there a (K)ubuntu development channel? i have a question about gutsy
[07:14] <Biovore> bsundsrud: can try kubuntu+1
[07:15] <stdin> bsundsrud: general gutsy questions go in #ubuntu+1 , but the Kubuntu devel channel is #kubuntu-devel
[07:15] <bsundsrud> thanks
[07:15] <evjunior09> Biovore: okay i got it. But that dosent change the look of my desktop at all. What will change my desktop and Toolbar etc..
[07:15] <Biovore> evjunior09: kdm theme manager is the login screen
[07:16] <Biovore> evjunior09: can do color schemes and gui widgets.. there also avaliable on www.kde-look.org
[07:22] <evjunior09> Biovore: Whats the thing to get to edit the Display themes?
[07:23] <Biovore> evjunior09: well in themes there are 2 things... the color scheme and the widget types.
[07:24] <evjunior09> Biovore: Okay so how do i download the Color Scheme?
[07:24] <evjunior09> When right click && Save As, it saves as a PHP
[07:25] <Biovore> well you get a .kcsrc file and you tell kde to use it..
[07:26] <Biovore> Shift click to save
[07:26] <Biovore> or click and open in kate and save it as <somename>.kcsrc
[07:27] <Biovore> hmm shift click seems to get the download.php.. grrrrrr
[07:27] <evjunior09> I got it
[07:28] <Fragility> does anyone know anything that would cause a computer to shut down for no reason, but go through the proper shut down process
[07:28] <Fragility> like not just turn off instantly, but shut down in a completely normal error free way for no reason
[07:29] <titanix88> automatic shutdown using crontab
[07:29] <dhiogjen> !mplayer
[07:29] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[07:29] <dhiogjen> !codecs
[07:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:30] <martoya> titanix88: check kcron
[07:30] <titanix88> tell it 2 fragility
[07:30] <dhiogjen> hey all
[07:31] <dhiogjen> im trying to get wmv support
[07:31] <Fragility> i dontt see anything on kcron that would shut it down
[07:31] <dhiogjen> could anyone point me in the right direction?
[07:31] <dhiogjen> im using dapper
[07:31] <Fragility> but I do often hit accidental shortcuts (which is why i rarely set keyboard shortcuts)
[07:32] <titanix88> dhigogen try vlc
[07:32] <dhiogjen> titanix88: won't install :(
[07:32] <dhiogjen> dependency issues
[07:32] <elite101> Biovore, the ppl at psp programming steal peoples code's from there svn and then share it with other losers
[07:33] <titanix88> w32 codecs
[07:34] <titanix88> vlc installs fine in wy
[07:34] <titanix88> vlc installs fine in wy
[07:34] <titanix88> ...in my dapper
[07:34] <dhiogjen> titanix88: how do i get the w32 codecs?
[07:35] <titanix88> dhigojen try with automatix
[07:35] <titanix88> dhigojen try with automatix
[07:36] <dhiogjen> titanix88: where can i get automatix?
[07:36] <titanix88> or may be link in the wiki
[07:36] <dhiogjen> it isn't in multiverse repository
[07:37] <titanix88> google it
[07:37] <dhiogjen> titanix88: as it is, kaffeine is the only media player i have, and it throroughly sucks
[07:37] <titanix88> why not vlc??
[07:38] <evjunior09> Biovore: Are you famaliar with WINE?
[07:38] <Biovore> yeah some..
[07:38] <dhiogjen> titanix88: it wont install.
[07:38] <evjunior09> Okay...on the KDE Control Center, i installed wine and it asked for a program to add on the Application's lis
[07:38] <dhiogjen> titanix88: it doesnt exist in the repos i'm using
[07:38] <Biovore> dhiogjen: win32 codecs for mplayer can be found on mplayers site..
[07:39] <dhiogjen> titanix88: when i tried edgy repos i got dependency issues
[07:39] <titanix88> disable backport & try install vlc
[07:39] <evjunior09> But it dosent do anything to the prograam i added
[07:39] <dhiogjen> Biovore: w32 codecs for mplayer are kind of useless if i dont have mplayer...
[07:39] <dhiogjen> titanix88: disable backport?
[07:39] <Biovore> evjunior09: I install wine via the console..
[07:40] <evjunior09> I already installed it with the other thing
[07:40] <Biovore> dhiogjen: well you can install mplayer and use it as the backend instead of xine.
[07:40] <titanix88> why edgyu r using dapper!disable edgy repo.
[07:41] <titanix88> dapper repos is updated still.so u get the latest vlc
[07:42] <dhiogjen> Biovore: i cant install mplayer
[07:42] <dhiogjen> Biovore: it wont install
[07:42] <Biovore> you on dapper?
[07:43] <titanix88> dhiogjen: u r trying every thing from edgy repo. dont do it as u have dapper.
[07:43] <Biovore> dhiogjen: you have multiverse repo enabled..
[07:43] <Biovore> its in there..
[07:44] <titanix88> temporarily disable edgy repo
[07:44] <dhiogjen> titanix88: no, i have only dapper enabled
[07:44] <dhiogjen> titanix88: i removed the edgy repos
[07:44] <Biovore> sudo apt-get update
[07:44] <dhiogjen> Biovore: yes, i am using only multiverse repos
[07:45] <dhiogjen> !vlc
[07:45] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:45] <titanix88> now install vlc.it rocks!
[07:45] <dhiogjen> titanix88: i can't
[07:45] <Biovore> vlc is good as well..
[07:45] <dhiogjen> titanix88: it doesnt show up
[07:45] <dhiogjen> is anyone listening to what im saying? @_@
[07:46] <Biovore> well vlc is in the universe repos on dapper..
[07:46] <dhiogjen> vlc does not show up in the sources list
[07:46] <dhiogjen> sorry, in the apt-cache search thing
[07:46] <Biovore> did you update your repos package list?
[07:46] <Biovore> sudo apt-get update
[07:46] <dhiogjen> Biovore: yes.  but i'm only using multiverse
[07:46] <fotoflo_> hey im running kubuntu - what should i use for a VNC server??
[07:46] <Biovore> well that explains why its broken..
[07:47] <Biovore> need multiverse and universe and the default ones..
[07:47] <Biovore> fotoflo_: there are alot of choses.. you running kde?
[07:47] <fotoflo_> yup
[07:47] <fotoflo_> is there a default one?
[07:48] <Biovore> well kde has a nice thing call krdc
[07:48] <Biovore> its like windows remote desktop client..
[07:48] <Biovore> I think its under internet
[07:48] <fotoflo_> err no
[07:48] <fotoflo_> i want a server
[07:48] <Negonicrac> rdesktop is for windows
[07:48] <fotoflo_> so i can connect to my KDE desktop from windows
[07:48] <Biovore> well there is a server for it was well.. 1 sec let me find it..
[07:49] <Biovore> ^ ding ding :-)
[07:49] <dhiogjen> Biovore: can you give me the universe repos?
[07:49] <Biovore> well I don't have dapper here..
[07:49] <luca> hi everyone  :)
[07:50] <luca> does someone know the command to shut down screen?
[07:50] <level1_> where is the kmail contact list kept on a filesystem? somewhere under ~/.kde, I assume?
[07:50] <Biovore> luca: you talking about the command line thing called screen?
[07:50] <titanix88> dhiogjen: add universe repo then update.
[07:50] <fotoflo_> Biovore, did you find it? whats it called??
[07:50] <luca> Biovore: I guess so; I want to set up a hotkey to shut down the screen and I need to know the command frst :)
[07:51] <Biovore> fotoflo_: I found it..  its hidden
[07:51] <titanix88> !universe
[07:51] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:51] <luca> level1_: check in /~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/
[07:51] <Biovore> fotoflo_: select the k-button and select run.. then input kcontrol
[07:52] <fotoflo_> ok
[07:52] <Biovore> look under internet | desktop sharing
[07:52] <fotoflo_> whats it called
[07:52] <Biovore> well its a program call kcontrol.. you can run it from a shell as well
[07:52] <fotoflo_> err
[07:52] <fotoflo_> yeah
[07:52] <fotoflo_> i can search with kcontrol
[07:52] <titanix88> dhiogjen: got it
[07:53] <fotoflo_> desktop sharing
[07:53] <fotoflo_> got it
[07:53] <Biovore> ok cool..
[07:53] <Biovore> its a kde service...
[07:53] <dope> i have an issue with permissions
[07:53] <Biovore> fotoflo_: basicly just have to check the allow unvited connections
[07:53] <dope> i added my user to the group the folder is associated with but it says permission denied when i do an LS
[07:54] <fotoflo_> i see, im just creating one invitiatoon
[07:54] <titanix88> dope:ls means?
[07:54] <dope> the ls command
[07:54] <Biovore> fotoflo_: ok.. then on the other side you can use that krdp or use windows rdp client to connect..  I think it also support vnc viewers as well..
[07:54] <dope> to view the contents
[07:54] <Biovore> ls == list
[07:54] <fotoflo_> cool
[07:54] <fotoflo_> thanks!
[07:55] <dope> yea
[07:55] <dope> says permission denied even after adding myself to the group
[07:55] <luca> nobody knows that command? :)
[07:55] <titanix88> i knoow ls not LS:)
[07:56] <Biovore> dope: try typing group and see what groups it says your in.. also check the permissions on the directory. (needs to be set +x)
[07:56] <dope> oh it has to be +x
[07:56] <level1_> luca: the kontacts list isn't there, I looked
[07:56] <dope> i thought r would be ok?
[07:56] <Biovore> yeah.. to cd into a directory it needs to be +x
[07:56] <level1_> luca: its something like .vcard, right?
[07:56] <dope> i'm doing ls
[07:56] <dope> i guess same thing?
[07:56] <Biovore> maybe..
[07:57] <dope> it's not apart of my group
[07:57] <dope> i used the usermod command
[07:57] <luca> level1_ no idea
[07:57] <dhiogjen> ARGGGGGGGGH!!!!!!!!!
[07:57] <dhiogjen> everything is broken!!!
[07:57] <dhiogjen> WHY!?!??!
[07:57] <Biovore> dhiogjen: you use automatix?
[07:57] <dhiogjen> no, i cant
[07:57] <dhiogjen> Biovore: it's missing dependencies
[07:57] <Biovore> no.. did you at some point...
[07:58] <Biovore> It breaks everything..
[07:58] <ardchoille> !automatix
[07:58] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:58] <dhiogjen> now i know the true meaning of dependency hell O_O
[07:58] <ardchoille> dhiogjen: lol
[07:58] <Biovore> yeah.. leave the stock tree and fear the deps..
[07:58] <Biovore> adding non-ubuntu repos cause most of those kind of problems..
[07:59] <ardchoille> Never stray from the tree :)
[07:59] <Biovore> and the fact you add edge in there at one point could also cause problems..
[07:59] <dhiogjen> Biovore: automatix has not ruined anything, because it doesnt not have the dependencies required to install
[07:59] <luca> level1_ checking right now where it might be
[07:59] <dope> ok i got it
[07:59] <Biovore> dhiogjen: maybe time for a dist-upgrade..
[07:59] <dhiogjen> Biovore: i removed edge
[07:59] <dhiogjen> Biovore: but i only installed it because i was able to install mplayer
[07:59] <Biovore> and your running dapper right..  you probably have edge stuff installed
[07:59] <dhiogjen> Biovore: i'm considering it.
[08:00] <titanix88> dhiogjen try synaptic adept sucks
[08:00] <dhiogjen> Biovore: but i fear i dont have the necessary files to >_<
[08:00] <Biovore> Might just want to dist-upgrade
[08:00] <dope> drwxrwxr-x what does the "d" mean at the beginning
[08:00] <dhiogjen> titanix88: how do i use synaptix?
[08:00] <dhiogjen> titanix88: how do i use synaptic?*
[08:00] <level1_> luca: thanks
[08:01] <titanix88> first install it:sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:01] <dhiogjen> Biovore: eh, forget it.  this is my grandfathers comp anyway.  i'll probably install SUSE on here to make it easier for him.  at least it has most of this stuff pre-configured
[08:02] <dhiogjen> titanix88: can't install synaptic
[08:02] <dhiogjen> titanix88: depends on a bunch of files apt can't install
[08:03] <luca> level1_ it's not in the share/apps folder :-/
[08:03] <Biovore> his box it totaly hosed.. hes probably going to have to use apt-get dist-upgrade after updating his /etc/apt/sources.list file to edgy sources..
[08:03] <luca> I do not know then
[08:03] <raylu> dhiogjen, why do you want synaptic?
[08:03] <dhiogjen> titanix88: how terribly cruel this OS is -_-
[08:03] <dhiogjen> raylu: because it might make it possible for me to install mplayer
[08:03] <Biovore> well you kinda broke it when you started playing with the repos..
[08:03] <dhiogjen> raylu: or anything capable of playing back wmv
[08:03] <elite101_> someone hacked my svn help
[08:03] <raylu> why not just download a standard sources.list?
[08:04] <elite101_> how can i set a firewall they hacked my svn
[08:04] <raylu> elite101_, svnserve or apache/httpd?
[08:04] <dhiogjen> Biovore: i only played with the repos because it was already broken. i'm using the backed up  file now
[08:04] <elite101_> one of the too when i ever i go on this site it show this evil skinnned cow
[08:04] <luca> dhiogjen you are talking nonsense :-/ what packages can't your system install, which are needed for synaptic?
[08:04] <raylu> ...
[08:04] <fotoflo_> Biovore, cccool, iiiits workinggg,. the   keyboaaard iiis aaaaaa bbbittt ffffed  upppp thoooough.....
[08:04] <luca> Biovore: not that true
[08:04] <dhiogjen> Biovore: i never installed automatix
[08:04] <Biovore> hes got all his deps messed up..
[08:04] <luca> it adds ONE repo
[08:04] <raylu> synaptic won't do anything adept can't
[08:04] <raylu> you shoudl try apt-get and aptitude first
[08:04] <dhiogjen> Biovore: ^^^^^
[08:05] <elite101_> i need help thoes idiots over at #psp-programming how do i access it to delete the html files from the website on the svn?
[08:05] <pyro> How do I reset adept manager, every time i open it it says theres a install pending or something!
[08:05] <Biovore> and updates of kde stuff and then breaks the ubuntu update paths..
[08:05] <luca> I have had installed it for ages and no problem came from it :)
[08:05] <titanix88> dhiogjen:no it was not if u have not messed up repos in the first place
[08:05] <dhiogjen> raylu: i've already tried
[08:05] <luca> oh by the way
[08:05] <luca> anyone else here having problems with knetworkmanager?
[08:05] <dhiogjen> titanix88: right now, i am using the sources list that came with my install
[08:05] <dhiogjen> the one that was backed up
[08:05] <raylu> luca, gui ftl :P
[08:05] <Biovore> luca: yeah.. its kinda quirky
[08:05] <dhiogjen> and i am having problems galore
[08:05] <luca> two times out of three when I boot the program does not load properly :(
[08:05] <Biovore> luca: its a novell thing.. so go figure..
[08:05] <pyro> How do I reset adept manager, every time i open it it says theres a install pending or something!
[08:06] <elite101_> can someone one go  into my svn and delete what ever stuff is in there
[08:06] <luca> any good substitute then?
[08:06] <fotoflo_> ok, i disabled keyboard repeat, and everything seems to be working nicely!
[08:06] <hamadooo> i did format 3 times in 3 days :>
[08:06] <luca> pyro: open a konsole and do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:06] <fotoflo_> its a bit slow though, over 54Mbps wifi
[08:06] <dhiogjen> titanix: h/o, i'm trying apt-get -f install
[08:06] <luca> something might be messed up with apt
[08:06] <hamadooo> removeing and installing ubuntu
[08:06] <luca> ok rebooting see you later
[08:07] <hamadooo> how can i make ubuntu my default booting
[08:07] <titanix88> dhiogjen sudo apt-get update ?
[08:07] <elite101_> help there hacking into my svn
[08:07] <elite101_> i need firewall something
[08:07] <dhiogjen> titanix88: did it
[08:07] <raylu> hamadooo, /etc/boot/menu.lst, change it to saved
[08:07] <dhiogjen> titanix88: quite a few times
[08:07] <hamadooo> ok
[08:07] <elite101_> please there are messing up my websites with cows that are skinned
[08:08] <raylu> hamadooo, */boot/grub/menu.lst, sorry
[08:08] <Biovore> elite101_: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/   I suggest you try reading it..
[08:08] <hamadooo> which one now ?
[08:08] <hamadooo> oh ok
[08:08] <elite101_> okay thanks
[08:08] <elite101_> but there doing more stuff i think
[08:08] <hamadooo> should i be r oot
[08:08] <raylu> hamadooo, yes
[08:08] <dhiogjen> titanix88: http://paste.debian.net/33171
[08:08] <Biovore> elite101_: you can also turn off you svn server..
[08:08] <elite101_> how
[08:08] <elite101_> please tell me
[08:09] <raylu> you shouldn't expose your svn server to the internet
[08:09] <raylu> before securing it
[08:09] <raylu> (duh?)
[08:09] <elite101_> they wont stop screwing around
[08:09] <Biovore> elite101_: depends on how you have it setup..
[08:09] <hamadooo> what's the notbad in ubuntu i forgot
[08:09] <raylu> and if you have no idea how, then you probably shouldn't be running one to begin with...
[08:09] <elite101_> i never set one up thou
[08:09] <pyro> elite101 install windows
[08:09] <raylu> hamadooo, kate
[08:09] <elite101_> but how did that make this website so its a cow that is skinned
[08:09] <raylu> elite101_, if it's not your server, then why did you tell us that it...was your server?
[08:09] <elite101_> i have no svn? but there hacking into mykubuntu with solorais
[08:10] <elite101_> i have no server i never set one up but thats what they said
[08:10] <raylu> elite101_> help there hacking into my svn
[08:10] <raylu> ...
[08:10] <hamadooo> gmote or somthing like that
[08:10] <raylu> hamadooo, what?
[08:10] <Biovore> raylu: yeah.. I don't get it ether..
[08:10] <elite101_> i knopw but thats what they said
[08:10] <hamadooo> how can i edit the file
[08:10] <hamadooo> boot/grub/menu.lst       this file
[08:10] <raylu> elite101_, your confusion is confusing us
[08:11] <raylu> hamadooo, alt+f2 > kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:11] <craig_> AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
[08:11] <raylu> please note that /dir/file is very different from dir/file
[08:11] <Biovore> yeah.. might want to read that book I posted you before you do any SVN stuff..
[08:11] <raylu> elite101_, that too ^
[08:11] <pyro> whats the status on beryl? did that merge back with that other program?
[08:11] <Biovore> RTFM for the win!!! :-)
[08:11] <raylu> pyro, compiz? it's merging, last i heard
[08:11] <raylu> but in this case, it's RTFB
[08:11] <Biovore> that stuff is in constant flux..
[08:11] <pyro> nice
[08:12] <hamadooo> ok thanx
[08:12] <raylu> hamadooo, you found the line to change?
[08:12] <pyro> so what do you suggest running for now? compiz or beryl?
[08:12] <hamadooo> yeah (:
[08:12] <hamadooo> i'll make windows first
[08:12] <raylu> pyro, cli only; abandon the mouse
[08:12] <Biovore> I don't do eather... alot fo bugs still
[08:12] <dhiogjen> Pyro: beryl
[08:12] <hamadooo> the default
[08:12] <raylu> hamadooo, er...there is a "default 0" line
[08:12] <raylu> that you can change to "default saved"
[08:12] <dhiogjen> Pyro: if you like your head not aching
[08:12] <hamadooo> ok
[08:12] <pyro> i've used both
[08:12] <fotoflo_> hmm desktop sharing is SLOW
[08:12] <raylu> then compiz
[08:12] <pyro> just didnt know if one is more worked on now or whatever
[08:13] <lbarrios> buenas
[08:13] <dhiogjen> pyro: beryl is considerably better atm
[08:13] <raylu> fotoflo_, what do you need it for? X11 over ssh is nice
 thank you very much it worked
[08:13] <Biovore> fotoflo_: well yeah.. its over a network connection.. you can change the rate can make compress better.. also disable the background in the desktop.
[08:13] <fotoflo_> i used desktop sharing on GNOME, so im used to it...
[08:13] <raylu> hamadooo, no problem
[08:13] <fotoflo_> it was faster
[08:13] <robert__> hey everyone
[08:13] <craig_> GNOME sucks
[08:14] <fotoflo_> raylu: i mainly need it to control XMMS
[08:14] <robert__> lol
[08:14] <Biovore> fotoflo_: rdp is slower for some reason..
[08:14] <raylu> fotoflo_, you're using it just to play music? consider mpd/mpc
[08:14] <lbarrios> hey... i am a newbie in linux, and I have the same problem as many others as I saw: installing flash in AMD64 feisty fawn
[08:14] <fotoflo_> X11 over SSH?
[08:14] <Biovore> fotoflo_: I think xmms has a remote control method you can do over a ssh connection..
[08:14] <lbarrios> can anybody help me
[08:14] <craig_> hmm maybe i can
[08:14] <raylu> fotoflo_, are you controlling it from a windows computer?
[08:14] <fotoflo_> Biovore, with gui?
[08:14] <lbarrios> published tutorial did not work
[08:14] <fotoflo_> yeah
[08:14] <fotoflo_> window
[08:14] <fotoflo_> s
[08:15] <craig_> are you installing flash as a plugin
[08:15] <lbarrios> for firefox. yes
[08:15] <titanix88> dhiogjen did u update ur distro or installed something from edgy.try a fresh dapper apt sources list from someone here
[08:15] <titanix88> dhiogjen did u update ur distro or installed something from edgy.try a fresh dapper apt sources list from someone here
[08:15] <raylu> fotoflo_, elite101_> help there hacking into my svn
[08:15] <raylu> oops
[08:15] <raylu> fotoflo_, http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html
[08:15] <Biovore> lbarrios: There are some things that don't work on 64bit yet.. (I think there doing some voodoo to make the 32bit flash plugin to work on the 64bit platform)
[08:15] <craig_> macromedia flash...yeh??
[08:16] <raylu> *adobe
[08:16] <craig_> W/E
[08:16] <craig_> lolz
[08:16] <lbarrios> yep
[08:16] <raylu> don't refer to the crap-ified flash as something macromedia would make
[08:16] <robert__> the new flash is worse than the old was
[08:16] <raylu> ^^
[08:16] <lbarrios> well, i tried to install the i386 version but it did not work either!
[08:16] <robert__> adobe has crapped on it
[08:17] <Biovore> lbarrios: well it won't.. well not with out some voodoo..
[08:17] <craig_> no it wouldnt
[08:17] <robert__> i remember never having flash problems in the beginning
[08:17] <robert__> now... all the time
[08:17] <raylu> i *never remember* having them either
[08:17] <robert__> and as much as i live in youtube...
[08:18] <raylu> fotoflo_, yt?
[08:18] <fotoflo_> yt?
[08:18] <raylu> you there?
[08:18] <raylu> lol, are you reading the cygwin stuff?
[08:18] <fotoflo_> heh yeah
[08:18] <elite101> #psp-programming
[08:18] <fotoflo_> reading
[08:18] <raylu> ^^
[08:18] <raylu> but if what Biovore says is true about xmms over ssh, that'd be a much easier solution
[08:18] <lbarrios> well, the problem is that I am trying to convince my kids of using linux instead of XP.. but if I do not have much to offer...
[08:18] <craig_> 127.0.0.1
[08:18] <ice9__> HELLO! I AM THE SCORPION KING
[08:18] <raylu> !hi | ice9__
[08:18] <ubotu> ice9__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:19] <robert__> speaking of youtube... this is funny....
[08:19] <craig_> Linux is weeeeyyy better
[08:19] <fotoflo_> wow, gpd looks good
[08:19] <robert__> http://youtube.com/watch?v=9VeFEL5t_pU
[08:19] <Biovore> well you can run command on a remote shell that signal xmms to play/stop/next/prev etc..
[08:19] <raylu> lbarrios, what do your kids do?
[08:19] <ice9__> thanks for the greetings, friends!
[08:19] <titanix88> dhiogjen or try a fresh install.:)
[08:19] <lbarrios> they are only 7 and 4
[08:19] <fotoflo_> you guys seen pitchfork?
[08:19] <raylu> ...so, internet games?
[08:19] <lbarrios> yep
[08:19] <craig_> I have a dual  boot.....XP 4 gamez + Linux 4 everything else
[08:20] <raylu> i think some study was done on little kids using windows and linux
[08:20] <raylu> and the linux kids seemed to have a much easier time migrating to windows than vice-versa
[08:20] <elite101> if i never heard of svn should i have one for being on kubuntu?
[08:20] <hamadooo> now in windows we have the cleaup tool to remove all the unwanted files ...... what about ubuntu ??/
[08:20] <elite101> i never set one up before so i should not have it enabled?
[08:20] <ice9__> ya man, I'm freakin 22 and I'm having a hell of a time using this !
[08:20] <Biovore> svn isn't install by defualt on ubuntu
[08:21] <raylu> elite101, is the svn actually running on your own computer?
[08:21] <elite101> okay so i dont have to worry about it at all
[08:21] <elite101> no
[08:21] <elite101> i never heard of it
[08:21] <raylu> elite101, then you are still confused :P
[08:21] <raylu> you need to slow down
[08:21] <Biovore> well then someone pulling your leg then.. I guess..
[08:21] <raylu> or you're misinterpreting what someone is telling you and are now pulling on our respective legs
[08:21] <robert__> linux is getting easier and easier... now, if only BSD was as easy
[08:21] <elite101> okay but they hacked into my computer okay with soloaris another "hacker os" they called it
[08:21] <Biovore> robert__: pcbsd?
[08:22] <elite101> okay
[08:22] <lbarrios> will it worth if I try to install the i36 ver of kubuntu?
[08:22] <raylu> robert__, how's BSD's wireless support? they have something called "project evil" which is the equiv of ndis, right?
[08:22] <elite101> its just that they are screwing around with stuff
[08:22] <robert__> pcbsd has almost no good hardware support
[08:22] <raylu> lbarrios, probably not atm
[08:22] <Biovore> raylu: ndis = evil.. thus project evil..
[08:22] <lbarrios> atm?
[08:22] <Biovore> :-P
[08:22] <craig_> wait a bit until the 64bit flash comes out
[08:22] <robert__> pcbsd does not support intel centrino wi-fi chipsets
[08:22] <raylu> Biovore, so is project evil just as good as ndis?
[08:22] <robert__> and that is what i have
[08:22] <Biovore> no clue..
[08:22] <elite101> svn is not running on my computer i never downloaded it set it up at all so i should not have one?
[08:22] <lbarrios> ok craig
[08:22] <dhq> how do i direct ip to another ip inside a network ie all the network traffic should pass through one main pc then the internet
[08:23] <raylu> is there a list of supported chipsets, robert__?
[08:23] <hamadooo> now in windows we have the cleaup tool to remove all the unwanted files ...... what about ubuntu ??/?
[08:23] <fotoflo_> hmm someone should write an MPD plugin for winamp!
[08:23] <robert__> there are more and more as time goes on, but not like under linux
[08:23] <fotoflo_> that would make it sweet
[08:23] <raylu> hamadooo, we have aptitude
[08:23] <raylu> hamadooo, /adept/apt/synaptic
[08:23] <Biovore> elite101: pop open a shell and type svn --version, does it say its there..
[08:23] <hamadooo> where is that ?
[08:23] <robert__> fotofolio, what about one possibly being under xmms already?
[08:23] <elite101> how can they hack into kubuntu i thought it was secure
[08:23] <elite101> 1min
[08:23] <raylu> hamadooo, the package manager shouldn't leave behind files
[08:23] <robert__> raylu... they have an HCL on their website
[08:23] <Biovore> elite101: it only as secure at the nub using it..
[08:23] <elite101> a shell? terminal
[08:23] <fotoflo_> robert__, huh?
[08:24] <raylu> robert__, link pleaseS?
[08:24] <hamadooo> how can i remove them ??
[08:24] <Biovore> elite101: same thing.. command line interface.. bash prompt
[08:24] <raylu> hamadooo, ...remove what?
[08:24] <hamadooo> these files ?
[08:24] <elite101> what whats a shelll?
[08:24] <raylu> hamadooo, er...i think you misunderstood me
[08:24] <Biovore> oh god.. someone shoot me!!!
[08:24] <elite101> okay so just type svn
[08:24] <raylu> hamadooo, apt/aptitude/adept/synaptic is your package manager
[08:25] <hamadooo> yeah i know
[08:25] <elite101> command not found
[08:25] <raylu> and it does clean uninstalls, unlike many windows installers
[08:25] <Biovore> elite101: good news.. you don't have svn
[08:25] <raylu> elite101, then wtf; how are you accessing the svn?
[08:25] <Biovore> good point..
[08:25] <hamadooo> i mean when you browse the internet . must be somefile ...
[08:25] <fotoflo_> i still think VNC is going to be the best choice
[08:25] <raylu> Biovore, that just means he doesn't have the svn client. the server is svnserve or mod_dav for apache2
[08:25] <elite101> okay how did they screw up my computer
[08:25] <hamadooo> how can we remove them in order to make the computer more faster
[08:25] <Biovore> raylu: possibly..
[08:25] <raylu> elite101, more importantly, how are you viewing the svn?
[08:26] <robert__> raylu... here is the freebsd HCL, which PCBSD uses since it's based on freebsd
[08:26] <hamadooo> like in window we go to system tools .. then cleaup
[08:26] <raylu> hamadooo, oh, you mean firefox's temporary files?
[08:26] <Biovore> webrowser to a remote websvn?
[08:26] <hamadooo> yeah
[08:26] <robert__> http://www.cyberciti.biz/files/freebsd-hardware-compatibility-list.html
[08:26] <raylu> hamadooo, removing those in windows doesn't actually make your disk faster
[08:26] <hamadooo> internet temporary files
[08:26] <elite101> they had this website somethi9ng like test90.nimp.org or something i clicked on it and this webpage of this skinned cow came up and i coudnt exit it ?
[08:26] <raylu> hamadooo, and in linux, the existence of a swap partition means that it won't either
[08:26] <elite101> but i ask my friend if he would try it and it was normal but for me its not
[08:26] <raylu> hamadooo, in windows, until you have less free space than needed paging file size, it won't make a difference either
[08:27] <hamadooo> aha
[08:27] <raylu> hamadooo, in fact, web browsing is faster if you cache more files
[08:27] <raylu> so leaving those files is recommended (by me, at least, for normal usage)
[08:27] <elite101> they hacked something of mine to make me show that website the index.html
[08:27] <hamadooo> right cuz there are already in my pc i don't have to download them again
[08:27] <raylu> elite101, no, that is extremely unlike. what webrowser are you using and where is the webpage?
[08:28] <raylu> hamadooo, you should try going into firefox and typing "about:config" into the address bar
[08:28] <raylu> hamadooo, then searching for "pip". double-click on http pipelining
[08:28] <robert__> about:config is indispensible
[08:28] <Biovore> elite101: you running apache?
[08:28] <elite101> 1sec its a psp webpage they steal codes from ppl that make apps and stuff
[08:28] <robert__> once you learn about it, life becomes easy
[08:28] <raylu> Biovore, if he is, i doubt he could keep it up :P
[08:28] <Biovore> rgr
[08:29] <hamadooo> ok
[08:29] <Biovore> I don't think know what he is doing..
[08:29] <robert__> lol
[08:29] <elite101> no
[08:29] <Biovore> RTFM == Read the #$%@ Manual..
[08:29] <raylu> the apple marketing team studies a clone of elite101
[08:29] <robert__> the joy of dicking around with operating systems
[08:29] <elite101> not running any internet thing brandnew install of kubuntu
[08:29] <elite101> whats that?
[08:30] <Biovore> raylu: lol
[08:30] <raylu> what's what?
[08:30] <elite101> a clone?
[08:30] <raylu> yes...a atom-by-atom clone
[08:30] <raylu> it's a joke; don't worry about it
[08:30] <elite101> okay
[08:30] <K-Ryan> !ati
[08:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:30] <elite101> because i am scared there going to screw ssomething up
[08:30] <raylu> elite101, the safest computer is one that's not running
[08:30] <raylu> ^^
[08:30] <robert__> elite... you learn by making mistakes
[08:31] <elite101> i know lol
[08:31] <Biovore> well apparently you "stealing code"  Mess with people who know, you might get burned..
[08:31] <raylu> robert__, i'll see what you can learn from a fried hard drive :P
[08:31] <robert__> if you don't break it you will never learn
[08:31] <elite101> what?
[08:31] <elite101> not me
[08:31] <elite101> them
[08:31] <robert__> raylu... it's called trip to best buy to get another HDD
[08:31] <elite101> i told them not too but they then said oh well and then the gave me this link to his website but it was a trap one
[08:31] <hamadooo> elite .. in 3 days o formated my laptop 3 times
[08:31] <Biovore> do you have this code on your computer?
[08:32] <hamadooo> and ubuntu working good now
[08:32] <robert__> i reinstall at least once a month
[08:32] <raylu> hamadooo, do your kids have their own computers or do they share yours?
[08:32] <robert__> i test and learn some much in a month my hard drive is full of crap
[08:33] <hamadooo> well i don't have kid .... and i have my own laptop
[08:33] <robert__> and i've been a linux user since '98... always learning
[08:33] <raylu> er...maybe i'm confusing you for someone else...
[08:33] <wsjunior> is #ubuntu+1 the right channel to solve gutsy tribe 3 doubts?!
[08:33] <elite101> www.test30.on.nimp.org!!! this website i cant click on it or im going to have a heartattack its a psp website forother ppl but for me its a cow skinned and the screen comes up 30times
[08:33] <Biovore> wsjunior: rgr
[08:33] <elite101> www.test30.on.nimp.com
[08:33] <elite101> wait sorry
[08:33] <elite101> www.test30.on.nimp.org
[08:33] <hamadooo> :)
[08:34] <elite101> thats what they gave me test30 is the guy they steal the code from
[08:34] <BirthdayHobbsee> DONT VISIT THAT LINK
[08:34] <wsjunior> Biovore: sorry, rgr stands for .. ?
[08:34] <robert__> elite... just don't click on goatse sites either.... or half the links on slashdot
[08:34] <robert__> the evil of tubgirl links on slashdot is legendary
[08:34] <raylu> lol, too late =\
[08:34] <raylu> wsjunior, "roger," i believe
[08:34] <Biovore> wsjunior: rgr = roger, yes, agree
[08:35] <wsjunior> indeed ;)
[08:35] <raylu> BirthdayHobbsee, it's just a prank, right? nothing actually harmful?
[08:36] <BirthdayHobbsee> raylu: it often has backdoors
[08:36] <raylu> er...
[08:36] <raylu> often has?
[08:36] <BirthdayHobbsee> raylu: so is very dangerous on windows-based machines.  of course, could be on linux based machines
[08:36] <robert__> dangerous javascript... rootkits, etc.
[08:36] <BirthdayHobbsee> depending on what the payload actually is
[08:36] <raylu> hrm...well, i just visited it from a windows machine :P
[08:36] <raylu> but i'm pretty sure i'm safe
[08:36] <BirthdayHobbsee> i say often, although i suspect it's always
[08:37] <craig_> an easy way to remove hackers from your system.....Disconnect all network connections, both wired and wireless....EASY
[08:37] <BirthdayHobbsee> raylu: uh, you may want to run a spyware/adware scan, remove all cookies and cache, etc.
[08:37] <robert__> fire up wireshark and see what the packet happenings are
[08:37] <raylu> and, to remove all virii, disconnect all hard drives ^^
[08:37] <craig_> yes
[08:37] <raylu> BirthdayHobbsee, i still don't understand how cookies are harmful
[08:37] <BirthdayHobbsee> raylu: it was more the other bits.  it usually tries to download more than just cookies
[08:38] <raylu> i'm just wondering in general; starting spybot ^^
[08:38] <robert__> cookies are harmful if they are of the "red sheriff" tracking variety
[08:38] <raylu> er...what does that mean? :(
[08:38] <robert__> go look it up
[08:38] <robert__> cookies can be privacy nightmares
[08:38] <raylu> Red Sheriff recently began testing new services in New Zealand and has been tracking the surfing habits of over 60000 kiwi surfers for months, ...
[08:39] <Biovore> yup..
[08:39] <robert__> you have to trust the sites you visit or have cookies turned off, which makes any SSO site useless
[08:39] <robert__> or surf through a proxy server
[08:40] <robert__> preferrably HTTPS
[08:40] <raylu>  i feel that cookies are abused nowadays
[08:40] <robert__> then it doesn't matter unless you get an evil payload
[08:40] <robert__> they are
[08:40] <raylu> kinda like html tables were
[08:40] <michael-3142> does any one know how to configure a palm with kpilot through a usb?
[08:41] <raylu> michael-3142, specific problem?
[08:41] <michael-3142> I do not know the device (/dev/????) to use for the sync
[08:41] <robert__> html tables really only worked well in NN they were crap in IE
[08:41] <robert__> css saved the day
[08:41] <michael-3142> raylu: I don't have a /dev/pilot in my /dev directory
[08:43] <hamadooo> is there a good site for ubuntu themes
[08:43] <robert__> hama... what desktop? gnome or kde?
[08:44] <hamadooo> gnome
[08:44] <guitarmaniac> gnome-look.org
[08:44] <michael-3142> raylu: I am using a USB conection
[08:44] <hamadooo> ok
[08:44] <robert__> likes gnome
[08:45] <michael-3142> raylu: what am I doing wrong.  does something have to be loaded into the kernal?
[08:45] <guitarmaniac> yeah I prefer gnome, but I just installed kubuntu recently as its easier to configure everything I need
[08:45] <robert__> anyone need some humor about now?
[08:45] <guitarmaniac> why not
[08:46] <robert__> http://youtube.com/watch?v=9VeFEL5t_pU
[08:46] <robert__> funny
[08:46] <guitarmaniac> I'll pass, dont have enough bandwidth left for the month to waste on youtube
[08:46] <robert__> it's a 41 sec video
[08:47] <guitarmaniac> ok then
[08:47] <guitarmaniac> sounds good just from the title
[08:49] <guitarmaniac> just did a fresh install of kubuntu yesterday so I have to install flash
[08:50] <robert__> guitar... see that video?
[08:50] <robert__> what kind of guitar do you like?
[08:50] <Char80> Hi, how i can add perl package to kubuntu? (i just install kubuntu in my extended partition)
[08:51] <guitarmaniac> i like a lot of guitars, mainly jacksons, ESPs and Ibanez
[08:52] <robert__> i like hamer, ricks and gibsons, fender teles
[08:52] <Char80> any suggestion?
[08:52] <guitarmaniac> very different tastes :P
[08:53] <robert__> you like female musicians.... good ones? check this girl drummer out... http://youtube.com/watch?v=cK4g4WtVe7o
[08:53] <guitarmaniac> I mainly play metal so I like guitars that do that well. But any decent guitar should really be able to play any genre
[08:53] <robert__> more the player than the guitar
[08:53] <robert__> what bands?
[08:54] <robert__> i used to like metal back in school, but not much any more
[08:54] <guitarmaniac> Machine Head, Metallica, Lamb of God, Killswitch Engage
[08:54] <robert__> all bands with cookie monster vocals...
[08:55] <guitarmaniac> heres my last.fm profile: http://www.last.fm/guitarfreek
[08:55] <guitarmaniac> Not really
[08:55] <robert__> i prefer prog rock... Yes, Spock's Beard, Kansas
[08:55] <guitarmaniac> Metallica and Machine Head dont really
[08:55] <robert__> not too much
[08:56] <guitarmaniac> Prog stuff is good too, I love Opeth and Mastodon
[08:56] <guitarmaniac> bit of Tool and NIN
[08:56] <lokki> why kget doesn't support multiple threads?
[08:56] <robert__> that's more prog metal....
[08:56] <robert__> you would like Porcupine Tree then
[08:57] <guitarmaniac> probably, I have heard good things about them, but never actually heard them
[08:57] <guitarmaniac> yeah im a metalhead at heart
[08:57] <robert__> they are prog rock, a bit on the marillion side, but heavier
[08:57] <robert__> i prefer old metal
[08:57] <guitarmaniac> I like lots of stuff though, as long as the guitar is interesting
[08:57] <stdin> !offtopic | guitarmaniac, robert__
[08:57] <ubotu> guitarmaniac, robert__: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:57] <guitarmaniac> I love John Butler
[08:58] <robert__> offtopic, eh? i listen to metal on my kubuntu system... guitar... do you think metal sounds better through xmms or amarok?
[08:58] <robert__> lol
[08:59] <stdin> robert__: music tastes aren't support related :p
[08:59] <underdog5004> lol
[08:59] <underdog5004> just finished dawn of the dead (2005)...very well done!
[08:59] <robert__> lol
[09:00] <robert__> is thinking of switching back to ubuntu since my flash woes in kubuntu won't go away
[09:00] <ksivaji> i had dual boot (windows and kubuntu) .just now i reinstalled windows now i cant load and boot linux kernel
[09:00] <robert__> that's a boot loader issue
[09:01] <underdog5004> !mbr
[09:01] <robert__> windows overwrote grub
[09:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:01] <robert__> beat you, bot boy
[09:01] <raylu> lol
[09:01] <underdog5004> oh yeah, well, I got a link!
[09:01] <underdog5004> lol
[09:01] <raylu> but bot boy gave a link to instructions on how to fix it
[09:01] <raylu> :P
[09:01] <robert__> i would have
[09:01] <robert__> lol
[09:01] <underdog5004> hahahaha, we're all fast tonight
[09:01] <raylu> but he beat you to it, eh?
[09:01] <ksivaji> robert__  so i dont have grub on my disk is it?
[09:02] <underdog5004> g'night all
[09:02] <guitarmaniac> how do I install flash in knoqueror? I've never tried
[09:02] <raylu> ksivaji, you do, but the mbr doesn't point to it
[09:02] <robert__> you lost it when windows was installed
[09:02] <hamadooo> what is the best msn in ubuntu which is similar to the windows msn
[09:02] <robert__> install windows first, then linux
[09:02] <raylu> hamadooo, in *kubuntu, i recommend kopete
[09:02] <ksivaji> raylu how to make do that
[09:02] <raylu> ksivaji, click the link ubotu gave
[09:02] <robert__> hama....???????
[09:02] <hamadooo> amd on ubuntu
[09:02] <hamadooo> and*
[09:03] <raylu> on ubuntu, i recommend kopete anyway :P though you could try compiling pidgin from source or using amsn
[09:03] <hamadooo> is it similar to the windows msn
[09:03] <robert__> oh, he's talking about IM
[09:03] <raylu> no. unfortunately, they took out the ads, insane memory usage, and most of the other annoying features
[09:03] <robert__> gave up on IM 3 years ago
[09:04] <hamadooo> oh
[09:04] <raylu> robert__, so what do you use now?
[09:04] <guitarmaniac> IRC?
[09:04] <robert__> email
[09:04] <guitarmaniac> or that
[09:04] <raylu> lol...downgrading?
[09:04] <guitarmaniac> :P
[09:04] <raylu> what is the practical use of e-mail?
[09:04] <robert__> i'm getting old school the more i use linux
[09:04] <robert__> i prefer being unreachable most of the time
[09:04] <robert__> the asynchronous virtues of email allow this
[09:05] <raylu> robert__, so set your im client to hide most messages and let you read them at your leisure later
[09:05] <robert__> i used to do that, but having a family now makes that even harder
[09:05] <raylu> \=
[09:05] <robert__> i'm lucky to find time to be here, even at 2 AM
[09:05] <raylu> email violates the "information should come to you" idea
[09:05] <guitarmaniac> How do I install flash in konqueror? never tried before
[09:06] <raylu> guitarmaniac, does it do anything when you visit a flash-enabled page, by any chance?
[09:06] <robert__> guitar... through adept
[09:06] <robert__> flashplayer-nonfree
[09:06] <guitarmaniac> a link to the adobe site i think
[09:06] <guitarmaniac> cheers
[09:06] <guitarmaniac> should have check the repos but was too lazy :P
[09:06] <robert__> but doing it that way sometimes Konq won't pick it up even if you force it to re read plugins
[09:07] <robert__> i use nothing but Konq under kubuntu
[09:07] <hamadooo> what about amsn ??
[09:07] <robert__> try kopete...
[09:07] <robert__> it's a nice client if you use IM
[09:07] <hamadooo> it's not similar to the real one
[09:08] <robert__> who cares... learn something new...
[09:08] <hamadooo> someone told me amsn similer
[09:08] <hamadooo> loool
[09:08] <robert__> broaden your IM horizons
[09:08] <raylu> hamadooo, why in the world would you want the new one?
[09:08] <raylu> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6908064.stm
[09:08] <raylu> is it just me or...
[09:08] <raylu> does the caption that reads
[09:08] <raylu> "Gambling sites were the first targets of web extortionists"
[09:08] <raylu> have a picture of horses?
[09:08] <hamadooo> lol
[09:08] <robert__> needs to win the lottery so i can become a luddite recluse on some island with no computers
[09:09] <robert__> should have become a vet... avoided the hell that is computers :)
[09:09] <robert__> i knew my college major was a mistake....LOL
[09:10] <raylu> you can run, but you can't hide ^^
[09:10] <robert__> too true
[09:10] <robert__> i've been a computer user for 25 years now... no going back
[09:10] <raylu> and when you do, i'll have a typewriter virus prepared for you ^^
[09:11] <robert__> i lovingly recall my commodore 64 back in '82
[09:11] <raylu> someone i know has an old solaris
[09:11] <raylu> i moved his files off of it onto his newer computer
[09:11] <raylu> but he says that he needs to keep the old computer
[09:11] <raylu> and he needs to keep it on, because
[09:11] <robert__> you think ubuntu support is hard... try waiting for answer the next month in creative computing magazine.... that's asynchronous support
[09:12] <raylu> if he doesn't hear that fan running, he'll go crazy
[09:12] <robert__> lol
[09:12] <lokki> komodor 64
[09:13] <robert__> loved programming in basic back in the day
[09:14] <lokki> python rulez!
[09:14] <raylu> strange that you'd say that
[09:15] <robert__> rules what?
[09:15] <raylu> i'm about to start poking at python for xchat
[09:15] <robert__> python has its place
[09:15] <lokki> are you building an irc bot ?
[09:15] <raylu> no
[09:15] <Mo0oSaH> Hello everyone.
[09:15] <robert__> all it is a good OO scripting language
[09:15] <raylu> xchat is an irc client
[09:15] <lokki> i know
[09:16] <robert__> prefers ruby over python
[09:16] <robert__> smae idea, better implementation
[09:16] <raylu> have you used rbot, robert__?
[09:16] <robert__> cant say i have
[09:16] <raylu> it's in the repos
[09:16] <robert__> what's it for?
[09:16] <raylu> its an irc bot
[09:16] <robert__> oh
[09:17] <robert__> i don't do bots
[09:17] <raylu> but my knowledge of ruby is next to zero
[09:17] <raylu> so i can't even get the "opme" plugin to not op everyone :P
[09:17] <c0mp13371331337> Here's something I've been trying my hands at for a while, maybe someone here can help....  Just installed a slave drive.  It came from a Windoze box, so it's got an NTFS filesystem, all Windoze directories, etc.  Just looking to reformat and use as extra media storage.  Is there a way to do this right from KDE/command-line?
[09:17] <ShockValue> is there some kind of program that will allow me to view network usage by process or program?  im curious how much bandwidth one particular program is using
[09:17] <robert__> ruby is easier to learn to python from what i personally have experienced
[09:17] <robert__> they're all based on C anyway
[09:18] <ShockValue> c0mp13371331337: figure out what device it is (dmesg) and then cfdisk /dev/<yourdevice>
[09:18] <stdin> c0mp13371331337: what, reformat it?
[09:18] <raylu> and here i was thinking the python quit() woulud quit just the console :(
[09:18] <ShockValue> c0mp13371331337: but becarefull you get the right drive, or you'll hoze your box
[09:18] <robert__> that python console drives me nuts
[09:18] <lokki> there are not good math libreries in ruby.
[09:18] <robert__> lokki...what
[09:18] <robert__> ?
[09:18] <lokki> like numpy
[09:19] <robert__> there are plenty of math libs for ruby
[09:19] <ice9__> weddep
[09:19] <robert__> not as good as python, i'll admit, but it depends on what you do and need
[09:19] <robert__> python has better stuff than perl these days
[09:20] <robert__> but then again, guido van rossum was a math guy AND an programmer, so that's one reason it's good at math out of the gate
[09:21] <robert__> perl is wreck with stuff like OO added on as an afterthought
[09:21] <lokki> guido didn't write numpy
[09:21] <robert__> no, he wrote python
[09:21] <ksivaji> !grub
[09:21] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:21] <robert__> what i'm saying is that python handles math better out of the box than perl or ruby
[09:22] <zero> what about C?
[09:22] <robert__> python is written in C as is ruby
[09:22] <robert__> plain old C is a anightmare
[09:23] <wolferine> thats why so many use it :)
[09:23] <zero> i am learning C atm
[09:23] <wolferine> zero too bad :(
[09:23] <robert__> learn it yes, but C is a system language
[09:23] <robert__> not used for much else
[09:23] <zero> learning C before C++ is really good though
[09:23] <zero> it helps you learn C much easier
[09:23] <zero> C++*
[09:24] <robert__> zero... C++ is hard to understand without understanding C first... can be done, but comes much harder
[09:24] <robert__> after C, everything is easy but maybe LISP
[09:24] <wolferine> learn Java, then C#
[09:24] <wolferine> :)
[09:24] <zero> i cant install anything from adept installer what am i gonna do? :(
[09:24] <ardchoille> !ot
[09:24] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:25] <robert__> java is becoming less and less relevant as time goes on
[09:25] <zero> yeah i noticed that
[09:25] <zero> but can anyone help me please?
[09:25] <robert__> ubotu... how about some onion rings and a dr. pepper
[09:25] <wolferine> zero install from command line?
[09:25] <Mo0oSaH> zero what's the issue
[09:26] <zero> i cant see all the applications that are available and the ones i see are grey colored so i cant click them
[09:26] <zero> i tried sudo apt-get install something
[09:26] <zero> but it didnt work
[09:26] <wolferine> why not?
[09:26] <zero> idk
[09:26] <wolferine> error msg would be cool
[09:26] <zero> i think it doesnt seach the internet
[09:26] <wolferine> idk wont really cut it
[09:26] <robert__> zero... what the package in question in the repo?
[09:26] <Mo0oSaH> zero did you see if your repos are alright?
[09:26] <robert__> er, was
[09:27] <wolferine> nite ppl, off to bed
[09:27] <zero> ok
[09:27] <robert__> l8r
[09:27] <Mo0oSaH> night wolferine
[09:27] <zero> what do you mean robert?
[09:27] <robert__> off to bed myself in a min
[09:27] <zero> actually what are repos?
[09:27] <robert__> repositories
[09:27] <zero> what about them?
[09:27] <robert__> where the programs you want can be dowloaded from
[09:27] <stdin> !repos
[09:27] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:28] <zero> how do i check if they are ok?
[09:28] <zero> hey stdin... we talked yesterday
[09:28] <robert__> see above link
[09:28] <stdin> did we? :p
[09:29] <zero> i was |Zero|H|I|T| yesterday
[09:29] <stdin> ahh, yes
[09:29] <stdin> you were the one who ran out of space in /usr
[09:29] <robert__> stdin, he just didn't stdout very well
[09:29] <zero> yeah
[09:29] <zero> i reinstalled kubuntu
[09:29] <robert__> lol
[09:30] <robert__> time to go to bed
[09:30] <robert__> it's 0230
[09:30] <robert__> later all...
[09:30] <zero> good night robert!
[09:30] <stdin> good, the best way to learn is "install -> do something wrong -> reinstall & repeat"
[09:33] <zero> stdin what do you have at adept manager > manage repositories > Third Party Software?
[09:33] <stdin> 1 sec, I'll look
[09:33] <ksivaji> stdin hi
[09:33] <stdin> hi ksivaji
[09:34] <ksivaji> is there any command for quick reboot
[09:34] <stdin> ksivaji: how quick? :p
[09:34] <ksivaji> like kexec
[09:35] <yeniklasor> How can I check how much space left on my hdd (/) ?
[09:35] <zero> df -h
[09:35] <yeniklasor> ok
[09:35] <yeniklasor> thanks
[09:35] <zero> someone told me this one yesterday :D
[09:35] <yeniklasor> oh i m lucky :)
[09:35] <zero> or the day before yesterday :S
[09:36] <yeniklasor> hehe
[09:36] <stdin> for normal reboot i'd so "shutdown -r now", to to an instand reboot I'd do "Alt+StsReq+B" from a console
[09:36] <zero> stdin what about the repositories?
[09:37] <stdin> zero: nothing
[09:38] <zero> you have nothing at third party software?
[09:38] <stdin> nope
[09:38] <zero> at kubuntu software?
[09:38] <zero> i have everything clicked and download from greece, should i change it to download from main server?
[09:39] <stdin> I have all the boxes ticked
[09:39] <zero> where do you dl from?
[09:39] <lokki> what's your vrms output?
[09:39] <zero> mine?
[09:39] <stdin> zero: the UK server
[09:39] <zero> oh...
[09:39] <lokki> yeah
[09:39] <zero> vrms is a cmd?
[09:39] <lokki> yeah
[09:40] <zero> full upgrading adept manager is good?
[09:40] <raylu> cs load scripts/cs.py
[09:40] <zero> it is not installed
[09:40] <raylu> oops
[09:41] <zero> safe upgrade or full upgrade is better?
[09:41] <jl> wow - tribe3 still messes up my default screen rez :(
[09:41] <jl> completely fresh install
[09:41] <zero> i get that with postal 2 too :(
[09:41] <zero> stdin?
[09:42] <stdin> zero: both are fine, full upgrade some packages that aren't normally upgraded with the "safe" upgrade
[09:42] <zero> which one do you use?
[09:42] <stdin> jl: btw, adept is broken right now in tribe3. so I hope you don't rely on it :p
[09:42] <stdin> zero: I just do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:43] <stdin> zero: which is a "Full upgrade" in adept
[09:43] <zero> oh cool
[09:43] <zero> thats what i am doing atm
[09:43] <rancidlm> hello can some one please help me with kubuntu, i am New to kubuntu but a long time user of ubuntu, i am using knetworkmanager but for some reason it doesn't ask to save my wep keys in a keyring.. like gnome-netowrkmanager, am i doing something wrong?
[09:43] <jl> i'm using sudo apt-get
[09:44] <stdin> I normally don't use any GUI package manager
[09:44] <zero> is there a way to disable the login screen?
[09:44] <raylu> you mean automatic login?
[09:44] <zero> and just log in terminal
[09:44] <zero> no
[09:44] <raylu> lol, i was trying to get this too
[09:44] <raylu> i'm pretty sure it involves runlevels
[09:44] <zero> just to press zero and then password
[09:44] <jl> anyone have good scripts to run after fresh install? i've already apt-got update, then did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:44] <stdin> 2 ways...
[09:44] <raylu> "cat /etc/rc2.d/README"
[09:44] <zero> and then startx
[09:44] <zero> oh...
[09:45] <rancidlm> any one help me with this kde keyring problem?
[09:45] <stdin> zero: if it's a one off, just boot into recovery mode
[09:45] <stdin> zero: if not then run "sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remoce
[09:45] <stdin> opps, remove, not remoce
[09:45] <raylu> o.0
[09:45] <raylu> we have to use -f?
[09:46] <raylu> it said i might need to force it, but forcing stuff is bad, so i didn't do it :P
[09:46] <stdin> raylu: unless you remove the init script all together
[09:46] <raylu> what would that command actually do?
[09:46] <zero> sometimes when i click to open something like adept or system settings it loads and then disappears what is the issue?
[09:46] <raylu> because i just did what /etc/rc2.d/README said
[09:46] <zero> i think i dont wanna remove anything
[09:46] <stdin> raylu: removes the links in /etc/rc?.d/
[09:46] <raylu> ah, excellent
[09:46] <raylu> zero, they're just symlinks; you're technically not removing anything
[09:47] <zero> and i can make the login screen return if i wna
[09:47] <zero> want*
[09:47] <zero> ?
[09:47] <raylu> yes
[09:47] <raylu> with defaults, i believe
[09:47] <stdin> zero: or just do  "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"
[09:47] <raylu> "sudo update-rc.d kdm defaults
[09:48] <stdin> again. if it's a one-off
[09:48] <zero> what about the disappearing thing?
[09:48] <jl> so - even with tribe 3 - i must manually edit xorg.conf to get full screen rez?
[09:49] <raylu> zero: sudo update-rc.d -n -f kdm remove
[09:49] <raylu> that won't do anything; try it
[09:49] <zero> and when i exit postal the resolution changes to 800x600 and this sucks what should i do?
[09:49] <zero> i change it from system settings but doesnt change
[09:50] <zero> the only way to change it is to do ctrl+alt+backspace?
[09:50] <jl> wow - even after restarting x - after editing my xorg.conf - i still dont have full resolution
[09:51] <raylu> jl, do you ever get full resolution?
[09:51] <Mo0oSaH> ji did you get it in Fiesty?
[09:51] <jl> i'm running a FRESH install of tribe 3 - 7.10 kubuntu release 2 days ago
[09:52] <Mo0oSaH> but did you ever get full resolution to work before?
[09:53] <jl> raylu - yes, on normal sidux and gentoo and debian i get full rez - usually editing xorg.conf works on those
[09:53] <jl> it did not work for tribe3
[09:53] <raylu> jl, you could copy your xorg.conf over...telling us that you merely made changes to your xorg doesn't really mean anything
[09:53] <jl> i added the rez in quotes - in the spot where it goes
[09:54] <jl> i know that part - nothing to see
[09:54] <zero> i click to load something it starts loading and then disappears, is it with kubuntu or what?
[09:54] <stdin> zero: that happens when, for some reason, the app just doesn't start
[09:54] <Mo0oSaH> I have that to me alot
[09:54] <zero> it is at the taskbar loading
[09:54] <Mo0oSaH> usually just ignore it click again...
[09:54] <stdin> zero: kdesu is normally to blame with adept
[09:55] <zero> an example
[09:55] <zero> i just clicked postal 2
[09:55] <zero> its a game
[09:55] <zero> started loading
[09:55] <zero> and then disappeared
[09:55] <stdin> zero: the taskbar item doesn't mean it's loading. it means that kde ran the command and is waiting for it
[09:55] <zero> this happened twice now
[09:55] <Mo0oSaH> might be an issue with the game
[09:55] <zero> but postal was loading
[09:55] <zero> a screen came
[09:55] <stdin> best thing to do is run it from konsole
[09:55] <zero> telling about violence and all that
[09:56] <zero> it worked yesterday..
[09:56] <zero> i will try konsole
[09:56] <jl> anyone else here running tribe3?
[09:56] <stdin> jl: best place for help is in #ubuntu+1
[09:56] <zero> what cmd do i use to open exe?
[09:57] <Mo0oSaH> ji try #ubuntu+1 also for troubleshooting.... usually someone might know the answer there
[09:57] <stdin> zero: wine file.exe
[09:57] <zero> if it is a linux file
[09:57] <zero> that just opens the game when clicked
[09:58] <zero> it is a shell script
[09:58] <stdin> .exe files aren't linux files
[09:58] <zero> i meant executable which are executed when clicking
[09:58] <stdin> zero: is it on your desktop ?
[09:58] <zero> i am at the /home/zero/postal2/
[09:58] <Mo0oSaH> zero you mean .sh file?
[09:59] <zero> yeah i think
[09:59] <stdin> zero: just type "./" then the file name
[09:59] <stdin> zero: like: ./postal
[09:59] <zero> thanks!
[10:00] <zero> instead of the warning screen a black screen opened :S
[10:00] <ksivaji> please one help me i cant restore grub loader after installing windows
[10:00] <zero> oh fuck
[10:00] <zero> lol
[10:00] <stdin> !language
[10:00] <zero> i forgot to install nvidia drivers
[10:00] <zero> sorry...
[10:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:01] <zero> i am sorry
[10:01] <zero> i dont usually talk like that
[10:01] <stdin> I do, just not in IRC  ;)
[10:01] <Mo0oSaH> lol
[10:01] <Mo0oSaH> haha
[10:01] <zero> lol
[10:01] <zero> i usually hang out at other ircs
[10:01] <jl> geez, sorry i was kicked out of my session - lost the kubuntu tribe3 help channel :(
[10:01] <Mo0oSaH> If I got half a penny everytime I said that word, i'd be a billionaire
[10:01] <jl> was it kubuntu-1?
[10:01] <Mo0oSaH> ubuntu+1
[10:02] <zero> rofl
[10:02] <zero> i have to make kubuntu look cooler
[10:02] <Mo0oSaH> Beryl ftw
[10:02] <zero> beryl is cool
[10:02] <ksivaji> please one help me i cant restore grub loader after installing windows
[10:02] <stdin> superkaramba's nice too
[10:02] <ksivaji> stdin :
[10:02] <zero> i just need some good themes and all that
[10:03] <stdin> ksivaji: what did you try
[10:03] <stdin> zero: http://kde-look.org
[10:03] <zero> thanks stdin
[10:03] <ksivaji> i gone through manual which ubotu gave me still cant restore
[10:04] <zero> what do you want to do?
[10:04] <ksivaji> i want to boot my system normally using grub
[10:05] <stdin> zero: so you've mounted your root somewhere and ran "sudo grub-install --root-dir=/the/place/you/mounted/it /dev/hda" or something like that?
[10:05] <zero> no...
[10:06] <stdin> heh, that was meant for ksivaji
[10:06] <zero> thats what i thought
[10:06] <ksivaji> stdin my name
[10:07] <ice9__> HELLO I AM THE SCORPION KING
[10:07] <vzduch> ice9__: good for you
[10:07] <ice9__> thanks
[10:07] <stdin> ice9__: if you want to mess about, #kubuntu-offtopic is for you
[10:07] <ice9__> nothing but business in here or what?!
[10:08] <stdin> ice9__: like ubotu says
[10:08] <stdin> !offtopic
[10:08] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:08] <ice9__> fuck
[10:08] <stdin> and..
[10:08] <stdin> !language
[10:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:08] <ice9__> jesus
[10:08] <ksivaji> stdin http://pastebin.com/d5185ef88
[10:08] <underdog5004> ice9_, shall we call an op?
[10:09] <stdin> ksivaji: which is your root partition?
[10:09] <ksivaji>  /dev/hdb3
[10:09] <mimik> how do you make Detailed List the default view?
[10:10] <stdin> ksivaji: have you mounted it yat?
[10:10] <c0mp13371331337> For a slave media drive in Kubuntu, what filesystem should be used?
[10:10] <stdin> c0mp13371331337: ext3 is probably best
[10:10] <ksivaji> stdin ya /dev/hdb3 is mounted at /
[10:10] <Mo0oSaH> c0mp13371331337: but it doesn't really matter, i don't think
[10:10] <mimik> c0mp: unless you want to share it with windows
[10:10] <mimik> then vfat
[10:10] <c0mp13371331337> cfdisk doesn't give the option, MoOoSaH.
[10:11] <stdin> ksivaji: huh? you said you don't have grub, so how is it mounted on /
[10:11] <stdin> ?
[10:11] <vzduch> mimik: you can use ext3 for sharing w/ Windows
[10:11] <mimik> really? heh, didnt know that
[10:11] <mimik> how stable is it?
[10:11] <Mo0oSaH> it works...
[10:11] <c0mp13371331337> Windows doesn't matter, I'm just looking for a bit of extra media storage on my linux box
[10:12] <ksivaji> stdin no i didnt say like that it is there but i cant see when i swich on my pc
[10:12] <Mo0oSaH> not sure about stability, my roommate uses it, but i prefer not to share my linux partition with windowd
[10:12] <vzduch> I had a number of filesystem errors after using it, but that could have been the result of the drive being defective anyway
[10:12] <mimik> c0mp: ext3 then i think i used tune2fs to free some more space
[10:12] <ksivaji> stdin have grub loader in optical disk through which i came here
[10:13] <stdin> ksivaji: so you booted from a grub disk?
[10:13] <ksivaji> yes
[10:13] <c0mp13371331337> mimik: how do you specify ext3 in cfdisk?
[10:13] <mimik> eh... im pretty sure i used gparted
[10:13] <vzduch> c0mp13371331337: there is a list
[10:14] <ksivaji> stdin tell  me  how to boot without using grub disk please
[10:14] <c0mp13371331337> vzduch, I see the list, but ext3 isn't on it.
[10:14] <stdin> ksivaji: try the command " sudo grub-install /dev/hda"
[10:14] <Mo0oSaH> c0mp13371331337: ext2?
[10:14] <mimik> so... is there an easy way to make Detailed List the default view for your entire system?
[10:14] <ksivaji> stdin /dev/hdb
[10:14] <Mo0oSaH> for Konqueror?
[10:14] <Mo0oSaH> mimik:
[10:15] <stdin> ksivaji: yeah
[10:15] <mimik> mooosah: yes
[10:16] <vzduch> I knew it..  c0mp13371331337: 83
[10:16] <Mo0oSaH> mimik: click Settings > save view profile... after you set it to the way you want it to look
[10:16] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d4cb37215
[10:16] <stdin> mimik: switch to detailed view and go to Settings -> Save View Profile "File Management..."
[10:16] <ksivaji> stdin
[10:16] <stdin> ksivaji: it should be installed now
[10:17] <mimik> thanks
[10:17] <ksivaji> stdin can i boot normally
[10:17] <Mo0oSaH> =)
[10:17] <zero> oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:17] <stdin> ksivaji: you should be able to, yes
[10:18] <zero> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[10:18] <ksivaji> thank you stdin i will reboot and come
[10:18] <zero> :(
[10:18] <zero> why did this happen?
[10:18] <raylu> ....
[10:18] <zero> it said something about bad device
[10:18] <raylu> ew...rebooting...
[10:18] <stdin> zero: you won't know unless you use apt-get
[10:18] <Mo0oSaH> zero what were you trying to install?
[10:18] <zero> i did full upgrade
[10:19] <stdin> !baddevice
[10:19] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[10:19] <zero> it was 167
[10:19] <zero> safely ignored?
[10:19] <stdin> zero: doesn't matter, see the word "similar" in there
[10:20] <zero> ok :)
[10:20] <zero> so ok now
[10:20] <zero> i see all apps at adept installer
[10:20] <zero> but i wont be able to install them i think because of the error i got before
[10:21] <stdin> yeah, use apt-get
[10:21] <zero> and it will work?
[10:21] <zero> i want to install kdevelop
[10:21] <stdin> maybe, maybe not.
[10:21] <stdin> but you'll see the error
[10:21] <stdin> and I think kdevelop is broke in edgy
[10:22] <zero> broke?
[10:22] <zero> i use feisty
[10:22] <stdin> then you don't need to worry about edgy
[10:24] <zero> apt-get is downloading kdevelop atm
[10:26] <ksivaji> no stdin i cant
[10:27] <stdin> ksivaji: hmm, what happens at boot?
[10:27] <zero> it works!!!!!!!!!!
[10:27] <Sergo> hello
[10:27] <ksivaji> wait i wll type and paste
[10:28] <ksivaji> stdin 2 min i am eating
[10:30] <sfire> I can't get my ATI video card to work in the correct resolution.  http://pastebin.ca/raw/629420 that is my xorg.conf file.  Can anyone tell me how to get my monitor in 1680x1050 mode
[10:30] <zero> programming in kdevelop is not really good
[10:30] <stdin> zero: why?
[10:31] <zero> it is too complex
[10:31] <zero> with a text editor it is easier i think
[10:31] <zero> you program with kdevelop?
[10:31] <zero> i get errors with corrent code
[10:31] <stdin> for complex programs I use KDevelop
[10:32] <zero> for not-complex?
[10:32] <stdin> for smaller ones (ones with only or two one source file) i use nano or kate
[10:32] <zero> nano?
[10:32] <sfire> the other thing is that I've got 4 gigs of ram and I only see 3
[10:32] <sfire> do I have to install a 64 bit version to see all 4
[10:32] <sfire> (BIOS sees it fine)
[10:33] <zero> and you compile with gcc stdin?
[10:33] <stdin> zero: nano is a terminal based editor, type nano in to konsole to see
[10:33] <Mo0oSaH> sfire: do you have 64 bit processor?
[10:33] <sfire> yes
[10:33] <sfire> (groan)
[10:33] <stdin> zero: yeah, well I use g++ directly
[10:33] <stdin> zero: I write in C++
[10:34] <Mo0oSaH> I don't know if it'll fix all your issues but it will run your system much better.... just a thought
[10:34] <stdin> zero: haven't actually learnt C yet
[10:34] <sfire> Mo0oSaH: I'll give it a shot
[10:34] <zero> how do the cmd work at nano?
[10:34] <sfire> I'm out of other options
[10:34] <Mo0oSaH> your xorg.conf has the 1680x1050 resolution in it
[10:34] <sfire> its a Core 2 Duo E6700
[10:34] <Mo0oSaH> it might be the driver issue
[10:35] <Mo0oSaH> sfire: did you change default graphics driver?
[10:35] <stdin> zero: the commands ate written at the bottom of nano, eg: ^O = Ctrl+O
[10:35] <zero> oh...
[10:35] <zero> i dont know which drivers to get
[10:35] <sfire> Mo0oSaH: I believe so (I followed the ATI Binary Driver guide)
[10:35] <sfire> it worked in 6.06 LTS
[10:35] <zero> gforce FX 5200...
[10:35] <codeatnight> does nano highlight syntax?
[10:36] <stdin> sfire: ATI sometimes remove support for some hardware
[10:36] <zero> and how do i save the file?
[10:36] <zero> anyway i have to go now
[10:36] <zero> thanks for everything
[10:36] <zero> and bye
[10:36] <stdin> zero: no, but that's why I use it for simple apps.
[10:36] <stdin> zero: ctrl+o to save
[10:36] <sfire> I'm going to try the 64bit version
[10:36] <sfire> will I still be able to play movies?
[10:36] <ksivaji> stdin http://pastebin.com/d36b42a1e
[10:37] <sfire> I know that wasn't working when 64bit first came out (along with a ton of other stuff)
[10:37] <Mo0oSaH> I don't have 64 bit so can't help you there...
[10:38] <stdin> ksivaji: your "root" is set wrong in grubs menu.lst. hd0,6 = hdb7
[10:38] <ksivaji> stdin i cant understand
[10:38] <ksivaji> now what i am suppose to  do correct it
[10:38] <pag> stdin, isn't hdb hd1  ?
[10:39] <stdin> ksivaji: look near the top, under " booting 'redhat linux 2.4.20' "
[10:39] <stdin> pag: depends on the devices.map
[10:39] <Mo0oSaH> it's hibernation time... night all
[10:39] <Mo0oSaH> goodluck sfire
[10:39] <ksivaji> stdin root hd0,6
[10:39] <stdin> ksivaji: it's trying to load the kernel from hdb6, the FAT32 partition
[10:40] <stdin> grub starts numbering from 0, so the 1st partition is 0
[10:40] <ksivaji> ksivaji stdin hd6 is linux part
[10:40] <ksivaji>  /dev/hdb6            3090        4864    14257656   83  Linux
[10:40] <stdin> ksivaji: yes, but hd0,6 isn't hda6
[10:41] <ksivaji> ok ok
[10:41] <ksivaji> how to change this
[10:41] <ksivaji> so i cant boot normally is it ?
[10:42] <ksivaji> stdin :
[10:42] <stdin> you'll need to edit the menu.lst file
[10:42] <ksivaji> stdin ok i will paste that file
[10:42] <ksivaji> you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:43] <stdin> yeah
[10:43] <ksivaji> stdin http://pastebin.com/d7876dfc
[10:45] <stdin> ksivaji: i don't think it's using that one, do you have another linux installed too?
[10:45] <ksivaji> stdin no
[10:45] <stdin> where did 'redhat linux 2.4.20' come from then
[10:46] <ksivaji> i had long back
[10:46] <ksivaji> before one year
[10:46] <stdin> what's on hdb6 and hdb8?
[10:47] <ksivaji> hdb6 is just a linux partition and hdb8 is having grub
[10:48] <ksivaji> hdb3 is root partition
[10:48] <ksivaji> !grub
[10:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:49] <ksivaji> stdin no other way ?
[10:50] <stdin> ksivaji: you may need to set hdb3 to be "bootable"
[10:50] <ksivaji> how
[10:51] <stdin> ksivaji: with "sudo fdisk /dev/hda" press "a" then choose the 3rd partition
[10:51] <ksivaji>  /dev/hdb
[10:51] <stdin> heh, yeah
[10:51] <stdin> as grub seems to want to boot only from hdb8
[10:53] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d7baa9521
[10:54] <stdin> ksivaji: yeah, press "a" then choose the 3rd partition
[10:54] <ksivaji> Partition number (1-9):
[10:55] <stdin> 3
[10:55] <ksivaji> Command (m for help): a
[10:55] <ksivaji> Partition number (1-9): 3
[10:55] <ksivaji> Command (m for help):
[10:55] <stdin> ksivaji: then press w
[10:56] <stdin> that should be it
[10:56] <ksivaji> Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.
[10:56] <stdin> is it mounted?
[10:56] <ksivaji> yes
[10:56] <stdin> you need to unmount it first
[10:57] <ksivaji>  /hdb3 is root partition
[10:57] <stdin> it's best to do that from a live CD
[10:58] <ksivaji> i  rebooted my system more than 20 times will it affect my system
[10:58] <dhq>  well i have a router with eth0 wlan ppp0 . ppp0 is the main internet.....what i need now is to route ppp0 to wlan0
[10:58] <dhq>  and wlan should be the gateway for eth0 can anyone help me out
[10:58] <stdin> ksivaji: no
[10:59] <Kjellviz> Ive got a Dell XPS M1710 (laptop) running Kubuntu, Im trying to get rid of system beeps (like the errorbeep you get when you hit backspace in terminal and theres nothing to delete), even though ive got a headset connected, its beeping in the internal speakers (like a pc-speaker). How ca i get rid of this annoyance ?
[10:59] <ksivaji> stdin ho ho i dont have live c
[10:59] <ksivaji> cd
[11:00] <stdin> ksivaji: you really need one, or need to be booted in to another disk to do it
[11:01] <ksivaji> ok tell what to do i will get a cd from my friend and try later
[11:01] <stdin> ksivaji: just boot from the CD and do the same steps
[11:02] <stdin> ksivaji: "sudo fdisk /dev/hdb" then "a" then "3" then "w"
[11:02] <ksivaji> ok
[11:02] <ksivaji> stdin thanks a lot
[11:03] <ksivaji> stdin thanks a lot
[11:03] <ksivaji> stdin thanks a lot
[11:03] <stdin> no problem
[11:05] <ksivaji> i didnt mount /dev/hdb8 which contain grub then how i am able to open /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:07] <Kjellviz> noone?
[11:09] <pag> Kjellviz, in konsole, right?
[11:09] <Kjellviz> think so
[11:10] <Kjellviz> its named terminal in menus
[11:10] <pag> Kjellviz, right click somewhere in konsole: settings -> bell -> none
[11:10] <Kjellviz> no its actually Gnome Terminal
[11:10] <Kjellviz> ahhh its gone!
[11:11] <Kjellviz> thanks a million!!!!
[11:11] <Kjellviz> it was waking up my daughter ><
[11:11] <pag> np :)
[11:11] <Kjellviz> does any terminal support ctrl+v for pasting ?
[11:12] <pag> Kjellviz, ctrl+shift+v might work... ors just get used to ctrl+insert  or middleclick
[11:13] <Kjellviz> dunno if middleclick works on my MX Revolution though
[11:13] <Kjellviz> and insert is VERY off on my funky wireless keyboard ^^
[11:13] <Kjellviz> otherwise id be fine with that combo
[11:13] <pag> iirc ctrl+v is reserved for system commands, so there's no (easy?) way to make it work
[11:13] <Kjellviz> kk
[11:14] <Kjellviz> ctr-shift-v works in gnome terminal, but not in console
[11:14] <Kjellviz> konsole*
[11:22] <ksivaji> tell me any web page designing tool
[11:23] <jussi01> quanta plus
[11:23] <jussi01> !info quanta
[11:23] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2382 kB, installed size 5728 kB
[11:24] <dxdt> Kaffeine just shows me a black screen when I try to play a video file.  I can't think of what codec I could be missing.  I've tried installing like every one there is.  Ideas?
[11:25] <jussi01> dxdt: what type of video?
[11:26] <dxdt> xvid
[11:26] <jussi01> have you looked at the restricted formats page?
[11:26] <jussi01> !xvid
[11:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:27] <dxdt> yeah as far as I know I've installed everything.  I'll double check.  I've already done several long aptitude install this and that lines.  I have dvd support even working hrmm
[11:27] <dxdt> maybe I just missed something
[11:28] <jussi01> dxdt: maybe
[11:28] <dxdt> nope
[11:28] <dxdt> no go
[11:29] <jussi01> dxdt: are you running compiz/beryl?
[11:29] <dxdt> no
[11:30] <jussi01> hmmm, weird, do any other media players work?
[11:30] <jussi01> dxdt: ie. mplayer/vlc
[11:31] <dxdt> yes vlc does
[11:32] <jussi01> dxdt: sounds like kaffeines problem then. try: sudo apt-get install kaffeine --reinstall
[11:33] <ksivaji> yes vlc is best i dont like kaffeine
[11:36] <dxdt> reinstall didnt help
[11:36] <Lynoure> reinstall does not wipe your configurations, have you tried moving them and trying afresh?
[11:37] <vzduch> dayum..  I'm trying to config TeXLive, currently running texconfig.. at one point it opens a config file in a Vi-like editor.. can someone tell me how to exit that?
[11:37] <Lynoure> dxdt: and what type of video file you get that with?
[11:37] <dxdt> xvi avi file
[11:38] <nodesert_> when i log in kubuntu,i heard a sound which shows i successfully loged in how can i change this sound?
[11:38] <rjb> dang, why is java off by default in konqueror??
[11:38] <rjb> it took me about half an hour of headscratching before i found the 'java' toggle under Tools..
[11:40] <pag> nodesert_, kcontrol -> Sound & Multimedia -> System Notifications -> KDE System Notifications -> KDE is starting up
[11:40] <mimik> have you tried updating the xine engine?
[11:42] <weijie902> nodesert_: go to the kde menu
[11:42] <weijie902> nodesert_: go to "system settings"
[11:42] <weijie902> sound system
[11:42] <weijie902> sorry
[11:42] <weijie902> system settings->notificaitons
[11:42] <nodesert_> thanks
[11:42] <nodesert_> i got it
[11:42] <weijie902> turn off all sounds
[11:42] <weijie902> welcome!
[11:43] <weijie902> oops
[11:43] <weijie902> didn't see what pag said
[11:43] <nodesert_> i changed KDE is starting up notification
[11:43] <nodesert_> i love linux and linux users :D
[11:44] <dxdt> any other ideas?
[11:45] <ksivaji> !fat
[11:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[11:48] <N_S_K_Y> good morning tot you all !!
[11:56] <iptash> kubuntu
[12:02] <ttan> hi! someone can help me with a wireless pci card?
[12:08] <djdarkman_> is the kde4 alpha desktop installable for feisty?
[12:08] <pag> djdarkman_, alpha1 is
[12:09] <djdarkman_> can it live next to kde3?
[12:09] <pag> djdarkman_, at least it's the only one that has it's own release announcement, I don't know if packages have been updated since then
[12:10] <pag> djdarkman_, it might cause minor problems, but it should be easily repairable iirc.
[12:10] <djdarkman_> hmmm than I`ll wait
[12:11] <djdarkman_> I`m working on this computer, I can`t take the risk of loosing time
[12:18] <ttan> the asus wl-138g v2 works fine on kub 7.04?
[12:21] <ice9> man Danzig is the freakin' man
[12:23] <joshjosh> ice9: At least with the Misfits he was
[12:25] <ice9> what?! You didn't like him solo?!
[12:27] <omega_> hy to all
[12:27] <pag> !hi | omega_
[12:27] <ubotu> omega_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:27] <ksivaji> please someone help me my grub loader trying to boot fat file system and return error
[12:27] <omega_> how can i get and install verlihub
[12:27] <ksivaji> pag :
[12:28] <pag> ksivaji, pastebin your menu.lst  output of the sudo fdisk -l  would be nice too
[12:29] <ksivaji> ok
[12:30] <ice9> weddep all
[12:34] <ksivaji> pag http://pastebin.com/d1a9f462d
[12:35] <ksivaji> why there is a * in line 185 and 189
[12:35] <pag> ksivaji, those partitions are marked as bootable
[12:36] <ksivaji> pag i have grub loader in /dev/hdb8
[12:36] <pag> root hd0,6   ksivaji, make that hd0,5 if hdb6 is the one with RH
[12:37] <kraut> moin
[12:37] <ksivaji> pag i cant understand rephrase it please
[12:38] <pag> ksivaji, yeah sorry, I said pretty unclear: in RH boot-option it's told to boot from hd0,6 which is the FAT hdb6 is hd0,5 in Grub's 'language'
[12:41] <ksivaji> so what i am suppose to change now
[12:41] <wimpies> Who can I make conqueror start one command with as argument all files I have selected instead of multiple commands one for each file I selected
[12:43] <pag> ksivaji, Somehow I can't even find RH as a boot option in the grub, so I can't change it for you... you should replace hd0,6 to hd0,5 somewhere there
[12:44] <ksivaji> pag hd0,6 to hd0,5 or hd0,6 to hd2
[12:45] <pag> hd0,6 to hd0,5
[12:45] <ksivaji> ok
[12:51] <ice9> :<
[12:52] <ksivaji> pag i dont fine hd0,6 or hd0,5
[12:53] <pag> ksivaji, hmm? where are you trying to boot to, when you experience the error you pasted?
[12:55] <ksivaji> pag i can boot linux or window normally i am using grub disk to boot
[12:56] <pag> ksivaji, now you got me all confused :S  could you please rephrase what is the problem, and under which circumstances it appears?
[12:58] <ksivaji> when i boot my system grub loader stored on hd tries to mount fat file system and return error
[12:58] <ksivaji> when i boot my system using  grub loader stored on optical disk it works
[12:58] <simon_> hello
[12:59] <ksivaji> pag today i reinstalled windows
[12:59] <ksivaji> after that i get this error
[12:59] <simon_> does anybody know, why alsa does not find my usb soundcard after remove and currently add the usb stick to the slot?
[01:00] <simon_> lsusb lists the usb sound card and the sound card works fine, but only if i connect it while or before booting linux
[01:01] <pag> ksivaji, :S I can't figure out what might cause the problem... if I were you I'd probably try to reinstall grub from the grub disk
[01:01] <ksivaji> ok
[01:02] <southafrikanse> hello. I've just installed Kubuntu but I have no sound
[01:03] <pag> southafrikanse, have you unmuted the mixer?
[01:03] <southafrikanse> pag: Yes
[01:04] <pag> hmm.. maybe then:
[01:04] <pag> !sound | southafrikanse
[01:04] <ubotu> southafrikanse: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:06] <Karti> Hi all, once I have amended the /etc/fstab can someone tell me the command to activate it again (refresh the list etc) cheers
[01:07] <pag> Karti, unmount the partition you've edited and do: sudo mount -a
[01:07] <Karti> pag: many thanks
[01:09] <NLJazz> does any of you guys ever get response in #compiz-fusion?
[01:10] <simon_> does anybody know, why alsa does not find my usb soundcard after remove and currently add the usb stick to the slot?
[01:11] <DjDarkman> hello, why does adep_notifier`s systray goes buggy when I start Compiz?
[01:12] <NLJazz> DjDarkman: i have the same "problem"
[01:12] <NLJazz> and i dont know:P
[01:12] <DjDarkman> It must be an adept_notifier problem, cause all other systay`s are working nicely in compiz...
[01:12] <NLJazz> DjDarkman: true
[01:19] <Karti> pag: If I have a smbfs drive, do I need to install a particular application? I can access them through remote places
[01:20] <pag> Karti, sorry, I know nothing about Samba.
[01:20] <Karti> no probs I will open it all ;)
[01:20] <Karti> Hi all, If I have a smbfs drive, do I need to install a particular application? I can access them through remote places cheers
[01:23] <southafrikanse> "echo options snd-hda-intel model-lg | sudo teoa /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base". Doesn't recognize "teoa" what command could it be?
[01:26] <simplex> hey
[01:26] <patrick__> i cant check the following rep with kdvsnv http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/pics/oxygen/
[01:27] <patrick__> but with subversion works, thats strange :X
[01:27] <patrick__> does anybody knows why?
[01:27] <patrick__> kdesnv tell me, the rep has moved
[01:31] <eltese> Hiya
[01:32] <eltese> Im trying to install nvidia drivers and beryl on my kubuntu desktop but with no success.. The sources.list wont let me write over it and Im really a noob at linux :) Someone who can help=
[01:32] <eltese> ?
[01:33] <southafrikanse> I don't have sound. When I press my volume tuner it doesn't go more than 10%
[01:33] <Karti> eltese: I will send a website that is quite useful helped me no end
[01:33] <eltese> thanks :)
[01:34] <Karti> eltese: just cut and paste the promts http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html
[01:35] <eltese> ok :) Thanks :D
[01:35] <Karti> prompts even!
[01:40] <gulitx> heloo people... how can i play with totem an mp3 and when finish to close totem automatically?
[01:40] <gulitx> i want do is in console..
[01:40] <gulitx> thanks
[01:42] <gulitx> heloo people... how can i play with totem an mp3 and when finish to close totem automatically?
[01:42] <gulitx> i want do is in console..
[01:42] <gulitx> thanks
[01:42] <gulitx> anyone has any idea?
[01:43] <grul> !ati
[01:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:47] <vistakiller> for ati http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[01:47] <Remo_A> There seems to be a bug in ktorrent 2.2: The button "still upload after file completely downloaded" stays effectless, packages are still being uploaded after they were downloaded when button unactivated.
[01:51] <southafrikanse> I'k trying to install a Wallpaper for my desktop but I don't know to which folder it goes :|
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> southafrikanse: it doesn't matter what older.
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> *folder
[01:52] <southafrikanse> nosrednaekim: But I can't find it to select it
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> right click on the desktop-> configure desktop-> check "picture" and select the location of your picture
[01:54] <Dorgendubal> you can just right clic on your image and the choose "Actions -> Set as Background -> ..."
[01:54] <Remo_A> where can I ask 1questions about ktorrent?
[02:01] <rbrunhuber> Is it possible to use hotswap on a dell media bay device? Are there any known howtos?
[02:06] <ksivaji> !grub
[02:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:08] <dr_willis> rbrunhuber,  is it a USB bay?/device?
[02:09] <rbrunhuber> dr_willis: afaik it's not but I think if found something: hotswap
[02:10] <nicola_> hello everybody
[02:10] <dr_willis> Id still suggest you rember to UNMOUNT the thing befor removing it. :)
[02:10] <nicola_> does anyone know where can I obtain a free svn repository for non-public code?
[02:15] <rbrunhuber> dr_willis: umount is always a good thing (except you want to use the volume :-)).
[02:16] <dr_willis> rbrunhuber,  yep. gotta train the wife to use it also. :) she wondered why her pictures were not on her media card the other day
[02:16] <dr_willis> she'd copy, then pull it out.. and they werent there! :)
[02:17] <dr_willis> scared her when i hollered 'dont just pull it out' :)
[02:17] <dr_willis> 'did i break it?!' :)
[02:17] <dr_willis> I think i need to track down a new wireless-N router,  any suggestions? :)
[02:20] <weijie902> dr_willis: i lost an mp3 player due to pulling it out once. luckily the warrenty was in place
[02:20] <weijie902> dr_willis: linksys, d-llink
[02:20] <weijie902> d-link
[02:20] <weijie902> go for popular brands
[02:20] <weijie902> and read online reviews
[02:20] <weijie902> but that's all i can advise
[02:20] <dr_willis> Yea. Looking at some now. Prices are getting reasonable.
[02:21] <dr_willis> I tend to go linksys. since everything else i got is linksys.
[02:21] <weijie902> is wireless-n compatible with older devices on abg?
[02:21] <dr_willis> How about wireless n pci cards for a linux box?
[02:21] <weijie902> just wondering
[02:21] <dr_willis> I got a older abg router for the older devices. :) i just want wireless to reach the garrage.
[02:22] <weijie902> dr_willis: try a wok
[02:22] <dr_willis> also needing to track down a decent wireless printer for my mom.  shes very space limited.. laptop in the front room. wants the printer in the back.
[02:22] <rbrunhuber> weijie902: normally the devices are a,b,g,draft-n or b,g,draft-n. A pure draft-n is not backwards compatible
[02:22] <weijie902> dr_willis: http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/22/wifi-wok-and-the-chinese-cookware-2-4ghz-repeaters/
[02:22] <dr_willis> I though the N 2.0 stuff finially came out? i saw some reviews
[02:23] <dr_willis> weijie902,   yea. Its not a 'distance' thing. its a 'line of site' issue mainly. and Al. Siding on the house.
[02:23] <rbrunhuber> dr_willis: could be wrong, I always heared about drafts until now, but I'm not sure
[02:23] <dr_willis> rbrunhuber,  let me chgeck the magazine i had. :)
[02:23] <weijie902> walls can knock out 10% of signal strength each
[02:24] <weijie902> brb
[02:24] <dr_willis> ahh they call it 'draft-n' also.
[02:24] <weijie902> ic
[02:24] <dr_willis> Linksys Wireelss N Home router.  3.5/5 stars
[02:24] <weijie902> 3.5 seems too low imo
[02:24] <dr_willis> only does 2.4 ghz, not 5
[02:24] <dr_willis> its the highest rated one in the revies of this mag. :)
[02:25] <dr_willis> I need tomake a list of the features i want/need.  in the thing.
[02:25] <weijie902> ic
[02:26] <dr_willis> they call it 'wireless n draft 2.0' gee.. talk about buzz words
[02:27] <lord_kalaeth> join #portugal
[02:27] <sfire> linksys makes crappy radios
[02:28] <lord_kalaeth> ups :P
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> sfire: oh yeah? explain the perfect revies for the wrt54G.
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> we have a 54GL and its amazing
[02:28] <danya> guys whats the best mp3 converter ?
[02:29] <sfire> I can explain it.. people that don't know a real router :)
[02:29] <dr_willis> danya,  converting to what?
[02:29] <danya> wav to mp3
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> danya:  LAME
[02:29] <dr_willis> I tend to use lame to encode wav to mp3
[02:29] <dr_willis> or 'grip' to rip cd's to mp3
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> sfire: lol. you have to pay for those..
[02:29] <sfire> dr_willis: you could install dbpoweramp
[02:30] <sfire> thats how I do all that kind of encoding.. it works flawlessly with wine
[02:30] <lord_kalaeth> exit
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> its "/quit "....
[02:30] <dr_willis> :)
[02:31] <aldcor> hello ...
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> hello
[02:32] <aldcor> i need help...
[02:32] <dr_willis> !ask
[02:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:32] <dr_willis> and hello. :)
[02:33] <aldcor> i'm begginer, so question is - i downloaded flash install for LInux and it's  on *.gz format... i need know next step for install
[02:33] <aldcor> p.s. im not really good in english
[02:34] <concei> does anyone know how to get kdm theme manager working?
[02:34] <pascutti> concussin: just reinstall it, it will ask what would you like to use (gdm or kdm)
[02:34] <dr_willis> aldcor,  you started out the wrong way.
[02:35] <dr_willis> !flash
[02:35] <concussin> ok
[02:35] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:35] <dr_willis> you do not want to 'download and isntall'it that way.  You want to set up the repositiries and install it with the package manager.
[02:39] <concussin> this kdm theme manager is saying it needs root access and wants me to push the administrator button
[02:39] <concussin> but there is no button
[02:40] <aldcor> !flash
[02:40] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:43] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[02:44] <dr_willis> concussin,  maxamize the window
[02:44] <dr_willis> they tend to get hidden off the bottom of the window/borders
[02:51] <dreamer> ok, can someone finally help me? I've been getting this for some time now: sometimes during boot, apperantly another dhcpclient pops up .. trying to renew my ip-adress, F-ing with my network. Here's some more info: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30776/
[02:51] <dreamer> it's dhclient3 that's making the trouble
[02:51] <dreamer> it doesn't always start on boot though, like once every 5-10 boots perhaps
[02:55] <dr_willis> wired network? or wireless?
[02:55] <dreamer> wired
[02:56] <aldcor> howto install this one ? http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22120&forumpage=10&PHPSESSID=cbcf96153c9d53e781925538a1df13e2 (please say it what and where i should write or do smth, not go there look at that etc.) couse i am really newb :/
[02:56] <dreamer> I'm on the university network, there's a central dhcp-server somewhere
[02:56] <pag> aldcor, sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[02:57] <dr_willis> Hmm.. could be its some how timing out/resetting/releasing the dhcp lease.
[02:57] <pag> aldcor, put that command in konsole
[02:57] <aldcor> pag: thx...
[02:58] <aldcor> i new that apt-get and other commands need write in konsole
[02:58] <aldcor> im on linux 2 days and some things i allready know... but nothing much
[02:58] <sam1337> Does anybody know of a tool where i can select my system software packages and then the tool would tell me how big i need to make my partitions?
[02:59] <pag> sam1337, ~10GB for / and the rest for /home ;)
[03:00] <sam1337> pag you forgot /tmp and swap!
[03:00] <sam1337> pag im going to install a couple of games like nexuiz and tremulous too btw
[03:00] <pag> sam1337, swap depends on your RAM, and /tmp isn't necessary
[03:00] <sam1337> dosent /tmp prevent / from filling up? if im burning a dvd or something
[03:01] <sam1337> pag also i have 1gb of ram and people tell me contrasting sizes to make it
[03:01] <sam1337> (the swap)
[03:01] <pag> sam1337, I guess it's pretty same, if you make ie. 10GB / AND 4GB /tmp  or just 14GB /
[03:02] <dr_willis> All righty. found a wirelessN router..  now wondering about what wireless N cards even HAve linux support. :)
[03:02] <sfire> is there anyway I can see all 4gb of my ram running 32bit kubuntu
[03:02] <dr_willis> heh.
[03:02] <sfire> I just got a new machine and bought 4gb of ram.. linux is only using 3gb
[03:02] <pag> sam1337, 256MB should be enough for swap, but since you're going to play, I'd use >512MB
[03:03] <sam1337> pag so 1gb of swap should suffice right?
[03:03] <sfire> how much ram do you have sam1337 ?
[03:03] <sam1337> sfire 1gb of slow ram
[03:03] <sfire> swap should always = amount of ram
[03:03] <pag> sam1337, well; I have 1GB swap, but (for me) it's far too much
[03:03] <sfire> 1gb would be fine
[03:04] <sam1337> i have a 200gb hdd so i wont miss 1gb much
[03:04] <sam1337> if im going to make a /tmp partition do i really need as much as 4gb allocated to it?
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> what program would you use to convert an mp3 back into a wav?
[03:05] <sfire> I never make a /tmp
[03:05] <sfire> I make a swap, /, and /home
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> so that it can be burnt as an audio cd?
[03:05] <dreamer>  < dr_willis> Hmm.. could be its some how timing out/resetting/releasing the dhcp lease. << that's what I'm thinking yeah, but the fact is: I don't need _two_ dhclients .. so why is it starting in the first place ..
[03:05] <sam1337> sfire your / is 10gb?
[03:05] <sfire> sam1337: 6
[03:05] <dreamer> dr_willis: the ps auk |grep dhc doesn't give me a clue about anything (can't read bash-code :#)
[03:06] <sfire> even 6 is over kill for me
[03:06] <sfire> I use about 1/2 of it
[03:06] <Karti> Hi all ...any reasons why my Konqueror would indicate stalled at the bottom left window when I open my home drive?
[03:06] <dr_willis> dreamer,    no idea there.. May want to check the forums. I recall some oddities with the dhc lient stuff in the past. but i always set up static ips now a days.
[03:06] <sam1337> sfire ok im going to stick with 10gb though because im going to have a couple of games installed
[03:07] <sam1337> sfire i also do dvd burning
[03:07] <dr_willis> my main fileserver with OOdles of stuff installed is right at 13 gb of stuff..
[03:07] <dr_willis> thatss a lot of data/iso files also
[03:07] <sfire> sam1337: dvd burning doesn't use the / partition
[03:07] <sfire> unless you tell it to for some goofy reason
[03:07] <dr_willis> the data drive it serves is 500gb at the moment. :)
[03:07] <sam1337> sfire dosent it use /tmp?
[03:07] <sfire> it can... I don't let it
[03:07] <sfire> I have it use my /home/username/tmp directory
[03:07] <dreamer> dr_willis: ah ok, yeah I made a post in networking already
[03:08] <sam1337> sfire you use k3b?
[03:08] <en1gma> sup all
[03:08] <sfire> sam1337: yes
[03:08] <sam1337> sfire so does all temporary files get stored in your /home/username/tmp? and how do you configure it like that?
[03:09] <sfire> I just configured k3b to use it
[03:09] <sfire> most things just have tiny temp files
[03:09] <sfire> and as far as games you could install them in your user directory
[03:10] <sfire> which is a option for most if you don't give is super user rights
[03:10] <sfire> (at least that I've seen)
[03:10] <sam1337> sfire yes i do that but i keep a couple of the games in my repository in my / so i can keep them updated
[03:10] <roald_> what are your favorite games?
[03:10] <en1gma> hey all. i have a usb 1gig thumbstick and no cd/dvd-rom drive and i also have 4 drives in a raid0 and 1 spare 13gig ide drive. what is the best way to install kubuntu kde
[03:10] <sam1337> tremulous, guild wars, nexuiz, ut2004
[03:11] <dr_willis> Been Playing "FreeCol" lately
[03:11] <dr_willis> new version just released last week.
[03:11] <dr_willis> Colonization Clone from the old days.
[03:11] <NLJazz> tremulous? like that:)
[03:11] <sfire> en1gma: why no cd/dvd-rom? you can't "borrow" one from another machine
[03:11] <sfire> you only need it for like 30 min
[03:11] <en1gma> not enough molex on the psu
[03:11] <sam1337> NLJazz its a good game but when you dont have the levels it takes hours to download them
[03:11] <sfire> en1gma: so unplug another drive
[03:12] <en1gma> has 4 molex and i have 5 hard drives and a vcard that uses it
[03:12] <NLJazz> sam1337: yeah well..
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> en1gma: maybe a Wubi installation?
[03:12] <NLJazz> take that for freedom:P
[03:12] <en1gma> whats a wubi
[03:12] <aldcor> ouu... i thort this kdmmanager controls all dekstop and icons... but it changes only login
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> en1gma: it installs linux from within windows
[03:12] <en1gma> i was hoping maybe a netinstall i can put on the thumbstick
[03:12] <en1gma> ewww thats even better
[03:13] <en1gma> checking for wubi in kubuntu dload section
[03:13] <sfire> en1gma: can you boot off a thumbdrive?
[03:13] <sfire> few computers I've seen support that
[03:13] <NLJazz> !wubi | NLJazz
[03:13] <sam1337> sfire so if i put my games in my /home/sam/.gamename and use /home/sam/.tmp for most of my temporary files and do a minimal install and keep my program list to a minimum then i need only a 2gb / ?
[03:13] <en1gma> sfire yep
[03:13] <en1gma> motherboard supports it
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> en1gma: its not a kubuntu download. Its its own  specil installer.
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> google it
[03:14] <en1gma> is there a kubuntu net-install maybe
[03:14] <sam1337> en1gma i like the sound of that
[03:14] <NLJazz> http://wubi-installer.org/
[03:14] <sfire> sam1337: I normally go 5 just to be on the safe side.. but it uses about 3.3 with my installs
[03:14] <sam1337> kubuntu would be well cool with the debian installer
[03:14] <sfire> so you could go 4 pretty easily
[03:15] <sam1337> sfire 4 or 5...... hmmmmm dilema time
[03:15] <sfire> if you have it to spair go 5
[03:15] <sam1337> sfire im planning on doing a base install btw
[03:16] <sam1337> sfire using the alternate cd
[03:16] <en1gma> getting that wubi
[03:16] <en1gma> looks nice
[03:16] <dr_willis> en1gma,  ICK. :0
[03:16] <sam1337> sfire actually it may be a bit too complicated to do that
[03:17] <dr_willis> from what ive seen people in here asking about wubi.. i will avoide it. :)
[03:17] <sam1337> sfire and time consuming is my biggest worry
[03:19] <en1gma> wubi installation size lets you pick from 4-8gigs. isnt there a way to just install kde cd1
[03:20] <en1gma> can i dload the kubuntu kde cd1 and mount it with d-tools
[03:20] <en1gma> and run it in windows
[03:20] <dr_willis> And it might even work! :)
[03:21] <sfire> me personally I would just unplug a drive and install using a cdrom
[03:21] <dr_willis> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3241082&sku=I69-2148%20A
[03:21] <sfire> dr_willis: I just got a new box
[03:21] <dr_willis> sfire,  i agree.. in fact thats how i tend to DO my linux installs.
[03:21] <sfire> C2D E6700
[03:21] <sam1337> is kde 4 going to be faster or slower than kde 3.5?
[03:21] <dr_willis> sfire,  tigerdirect has a quadcore bare bones system for $600
[03:21] <dr_willis> sam1337,  faster we hope. :)
[03:21] <en1gma> if i unplug 1 drive it will ruin my raid0
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> sam1337: should be faster.
[03:21] <sfire> better deals to be had on dells outlet site :)
[03:22] <dr_willis> sfire,  given what i hear about dell.. i tend to avoide them
[03:22] <sfire> I paid 999 for C2D E6700, 2GB Ram, 500gb sata hard drive
[03:22] <sfire> ordered 2 more gb of ram and a 150gb raptor from newegg
[03:22] <sam1337> sfire 999 of what?
[03:22] <sfire> slapped it all together and I have a KICKASS system for less than 1300 :)
[03:23] <dr_willis> for $1300 you better have a kicking system
[03:23] <sam1337> sfire i could get the same thing for less than 300
[03:23] <en1gma> amd is making a new motherboard that has ddr3 soldered to mb and it will operate at 1500 and supposibly is gonna be really fast
[03:23] <gan|y|med> hi
[03:23] <gan|y|med>  is there any way to get dri working with xgl?
[03:23] <dr_willis> en1gma,  asus is doing that also.
[03:23] <en1gma> maybe thats what i read
[03:23] <daavis> what i should do if i want that my linux looks like that? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/K+Menu+Gnome+(Fedora+Core+Package)?content=39290 (i meen what i should do with this  rpm file?
[03:23] <dr_willis> en1gma,  to be out in a few months i think. (next month perhaps)
[03:23] <en1gma> yea you correct its asus
[03:23] <sam1337> gan[y] ymed why not just use aiglx instead?
[03:24] <dr_willis> en1gma,  not sure how much $$$ it will cost however
[03:24] <en1gma> prob alot
[03:24] <en1gma> :)
[03:24] <daavis> what i should do if i want that my linux looks like that? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/K+Menu+Gnome+(Fedora+Core+Package)?content=39290 (i meen what i should do with this  rpm file?
[03:24] <pag> daavis, that is only a menu extention - no themes / wallpapers included :)
[03:24] <daavis> where i should search in this site for me?
[03:24] <en1gma> those pics are so small i cant see anything
[03:25] <dr_willis> i cant even get to that URL. from xchat.
[03:25] <dr_willis> the () conruses it
[03:25] <en1gma> lol
[03:25] <en1gma> get konv
[03:25] <pag> daavis, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/K+Menu+Gnome+(Debian+Package)?content=31031 hereis the same extention for *buntu, if you like
[03:26] <en1gma> i dont see any diff
[03:27] <en1gma> looks like default kde with a diff background
[03:28] <en1gma> brb coffee
[03:28] <runlevelten> From that """Cleaned up the K Menu""". Bye then.
[03:28] <nightyfall> hi
[03:29] <runlevelten> If I had a penny for every amateur attempt to "clean up the K menu". They all just remove installed apps from the menu. Which is broken.
[03:29] <dr_willis> all it looks like its doing is tweaking the menu layouts so theres a seperate 'gnome' menu item fwith all the gnome apps in it.
[03:29] <runlevelten> Don't clean it up for people, if they didn't like it they wouldn't use it, if they wanted their apps missing they'd remove them with kmenuedit
[03:30] <en1gma> isnt there a meta installer/uninstaller that uninstall complete packages and removes the apps and shortcuts
[03:31] <pag> en1gma, dpkg (and all it's front-ends) :)
[03:31] <en1gma> true
[03:32] <chameleonjackson> hallo ?
[03:32] <en1gma> almost have the kubuntu kde 7.04 dlaoded. i hope mounting it with d-tools in windows will allow it to install correct
[03:32] <daavis> well...but if i want smth like that http://www1.autistici.org/loa/terminal/themes/LOAtheme.jpg  ? pag wich programm supports that? you know...panel color, icons... all is on theme... how do this?
[03:33] <dr_willis> You set all the parts up individually.
[03:33] <dr_willis> a 'theme' file has the settings for the various parts. If you got the parts installed.
[03:33] <chameleonjackson>  test
[03:33] <en1gma> i have a x1950 pro and was reading this page "http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/12/14/ati-8325-display-drivers-with-xorg-72-support/" and was wondering if there is a new script for the ati driver for x64
[03:33] <dr_willis> ie the proper icon set, and widget set, and window decorations
[03:33] <chameleonjackson> fgfg
[03:34] <pag> CapaH, it works... next what?
[03:34] <en1gma> so i dont get that paravirt error
[03:34] <pag> CapaH, sorry, wrong tab-completion :-(
[03:34] <en1gma> it will just grow back
[03:35] <daavis> well...but if i want smth like that http://www1.autistici.org/loa/terminal/themes/LOAtheme.jpg  ? pag wich programm supports that? you know...panel color, icons... all is on theme... how do this? please help...
[03:35] <dr_willis> You set the colors tobe the same, tweak your panel settings, use their Ugly icon theme...
[03:35] <pag> daavis, panel colour can be set by right-clicking the panel. app-colours can be set in system settings etc.
[03:35] <dr_willis> thers no 'program' that does it.. Unless they include a THEME file for it.
[03:35] <en1gma> hey all for an x1950 pro pci-e vcard what is the latest script that will install the ati prop driver with kubuntu 7.04 amd64
[03:35] <dr_willis> and that theme file then sets the other 'settings'
[03:36] <en1gma> and hopefully no paravirt error
[03:36] <dr_willis> that LOAtheme - is one of the uglier themes ive seen lately. :)
[03:39] <en1gma> shiat i mounted the cd from within windows and i dont see any installer
[03:40] <pag> en1gma, you try to install an OS from within another OS? :P
[03:40] <dr_willis> en1gma,  thats what wubi is i thoight . the installer.
[03:40] <en1gma> i thought i did it with the kubuntu cd before
[03:40] <dr_willis> theres no 'setup.exe' on the cd :) well there maybe for the windows tools
[03:40] <dr_willis> !wubi
[03:41] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[03:41] <en1gma> dr_willis it only wants to let me select i386 and also 4-8 gig install
[03:41] <dr_willis> THe extent of my Wubiknowledge is from that factouid.,. and the fact i see perhaps a dozen people in here a week with problems with it. ;)
[03:42] <en1gma> so it dont work correct?
[03:42] <runlevelten> It's just the sort of thing that it seems like common sense to forego, if you don't mind me saying so.
[03:42] <runlevelten> Kind of like doing in-place upgrades on SuSE or windows servers, heh.
[03:43] <dr_willis> http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
[03:43] <dr_willis> it sets up a 'disk file' on the windows disks.. it does NOT isntall to a 'partition'
[03:43] <dr_willis> it then makes a special boot entry in the windows stuff to boot from that file somehow.
[03:44] <en1gma> oh no
[03:44] <en1gma> i want this seperate ide hd to have a full install
[03:44] <en1gma> well not full but kde anyway
[03:44] <dr_willis> Then you are wasteing your time.. and should of read the wubi docs first. :)
[03:44] <runlevelten> dr_willis: Indeed. Ugh.
[03:44] <dr_willis> it CANT do it that way
[03:44] <en1gma> well thats cool
[03:44] <nonex> a
[03:45] <en1gma> ill keep looking
[03:45] <dr_willis> Can I use my free hard disk space and install Ubuntu there? -- Not at the moment, but the feature is in the pipeline
[03:45] <en1gma> i prob gonna need a netinstall
[03:45] <nonex> if you want ubuntu and kde, you should install kubuntu dont  U think?
[03:46] <runlevelten> Why can't you boot and install if you have free space>
[03:46] <runlevelten> ?
[03:46] <en1gma> i dont have a cd/dvd-rom
[03:46] <en1gma> not enough molex connectors
[03:47] <runlevelten> and nothing which could be unplugged for the install?
[03:48] <runlevelten> then plugged in again - ie I'll usually unplug an HD I'm not installing to if I come across that
[03:48] <en1gma> if i unplug 1 of the 4 drives in the raid0 it will destroy the raid0
[03:48] <en1gma> i cant believe there is no net-install for kubuntu
[03:48] <dr_willis> I always install ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop
[03:49] <dr_willis> I dont mess with raids any more :) toomuch hassle.
[03:49] <runlevelten> en1gma: there is, isn't there?
[03:49] <dr_willis> no power-splitters eh?
[03:50] <en1gma> i have splitters already connected for the extra ide drive and the vcard
[03:51] <en1gma> running 6 devices on 2 cables that normally have 4 connectors
[03:51] <en1gma> cd/dvd-rom would make 7
[03:51] <dr_willis> :)
[03:51] <en1gma> the psu kicks off when i try that...
[03:51] <en1gma> i have tried it :)
[03:52] <dr_willis> your PS only has 2   conectors.. ick
[03:52] <runlevelten> If you can't netinstall feisty, I will fall off my chair, tbh.
[03:52] <dr_willis> get a PS from a spare machine.. set it outside the case... :)
[03:52] <en1gma> it was my sons...i gave him my good system
[03:52] <en1gma> dr_willis i was thinking bout doing that...i have another comp in other room
[03:52] <en1gma> but dang
[03:54] <en1gma> :)
[03:54] <dr_willis> heh - it has to be an OLD powersupply, or it wont power up - unless conencted to somthing
[03:54] <dr_willis> or jumpered out some how
[03:54] <en1gma> omg thats right
[03:54] <en1gma> its like the green wire or something
[03:54] <dr_willis> :)
[03:54] <en1gma> paper clip :)
[03:54] <dr_willis> i forget.  wrong place = boom
[03:55] <en1gma> i know...i forget too
[03:55] <en1gma> :)
[03:55] <dr_willis> it MIGHT be time to be getting a bigger PS for that box. :)
[03:55] <en1gma> i think its green to black but i really forget AND all those wires on the psu connector are not always the same correct color so i would have to find the actually pinout
[03:55] <dr_willis> yep.
[03:55] <dr_willis> well i am off to the store. byeee
[03:55] <en1gma> ok man thanks
[03:56] <runlevelten> en1gma: have you tried instlux?
[03:57] <en1gma> not yet
[03:57] <en1gma> whats that
[03:58] <en1gma> nice
[03:58] <en1gma> i just googled it
[03:58] <runlevelten> it fetches the pxe (ie http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/386/) and does your business
[03:59] <runlevelten> caveat: I can't vouch for how well it works. I'd install what you know is supported by it and upgrade
[04:00] <en1gma>  	instluxCDROMUbuntu6_06english.exe dont look like there is a 7.04
[04:00] <runlevelten> that's what I was thinking, install that and then upgrade
[04:01] <en1gma>  	instluxNETUbuntu6_06english.exe also is not 7.04
[04:01] <en1gma> that might work
[04:03] <iarwain_> hiya, anyone know why my laptop's hd stops spinning every now and then? I'm watching a movie from my hd, and it pauses every now and then..
[04:03] <en1gma> that instlinux thing i think just made a bootloader in my raid0 and wants me to reboot
[04:03] <runlevelten> I still don't get why you can't net install though
[04:03] <en1gma> omfg
[04:04] <en1gma> i want to net install
[04:06] <en1gma> brb this thing wants me to reboot
[04:06] <en1gma> hope it didnt screw my raid0 partition up
[04:09] <mapster> I have some issues with the installation of kubuntu 7.04... right at the end it asks to remove the DVD from the drive and hit "Enter" and at that point it stops dead, could that be causing other issues that i am having, when i reset the machine it appears to start fine.
[04:10] <elite101> ahhh kubuntu 7.04 is in dvd formatt xD
[04:10] <runlevelten> sounds like a no acpi install mapster
[04:10] <Dragnslcr> mapster- I think at that point all that's left is to reboot anyway, so it should be fine
[04:11] <mapster> can u expand that...  =)
[04:11] <runlevelten> screen goes black, but the machine doesn't turn off yeah?
[04:11] <mapster> no, it just sit there, same screen..  stating to hit enter when the DVD is removed..
[04:12] <mapster> right..
[04:12] <runlevelten> enter just restarts the machine - use the power button :)
[04:12] <mapster> that is what i have done, (several time) as i am having a few other issues.. so i was not sure..
[04:13] <runlevelten> what other issues?
[04:13] <mapster> lol, ok, forgive me a i am new to linux..
[04:14] <mapster> but i have been trying to boot into a command line root..  right so i assumed that is selected form the left white square on boot (next to username and password..)
[04:14] <mapster> "console login" right?
[04:15] <P> hello does someone knows how to checkout the Oxygen Icons reponsitys?
[04:15] <runlevelten> You want to be thrown out to a non-graphical environment, or you want to go from boot to a non-graphical environment, or you just want to run a root shell?
[04:16] <runlevelten> to switch to a non-graphical shell from the windowing server, you can press ctrl+alt+f1, and ctrl+alt+f7 to switch back
[04:16] <mapster> install vid driver from root.. command line
[04:16] <P> ??? i just want the icons. i dont know the SVN link =)
[04:17] <runlevelten> then you want to press ctrl-alt-f1, login and do init 3
[04:17] <runlevelten> then install your driver :)
[04:17] <runlevelten> but hang on, what driver is it?
[04:17] <pag> P, iirc Oxygen icons do no longer work on kde3
[04:18] <runlevelten> Do you have an nvidia/ati card? If so, run restricted-manager
[04:18] <runlevelten> from your desktop envrionment
[04:18] <pag> P, http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/pics/oxygen/ <- here's the link to svn
[04:18] <P> realy? i loaded a package some month befor via SVN and it worked good
[04:18] <P> thanks
[04:19] <mapster> it's a video driver, nvidia.. issue??
[04:20] <pag> P, a quote from Ubuntuforums.org: "One big problem: the icon names used are incompatible with KDE 3.5. The Oxygen icons in KDE Trunk are following the FreeDesktop.org standards, which is not 100% compatible with the current naming scheme used on KDE 3.5.x."
[04:21] <mapster> @ runlevelten why restricted-manager?
[04:22] <runlevelten> Sorry, I'm making an assumption there. Normally these days when people want to init 3 and install gpu drivers it's because they're installing proprietary drivers
[04:22] <runlevelten> Is that what you're doing?
[04:23] <mapster> well i have download the nvidia driver and i am trying to install them..
[04:26] <SimonSays> hi. i've installed ubuntu 7.04 for the first time and am having problems with my wireless device
[04:26] <SimonSays> any advice from anyone who know how to get an interl wireless pro card to work?
[04:28] <SimonSays> i was told that this is the right place for support. corect?
[04:28] <Dragnslcr> Yup
[04:28] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how I can find what processes are using sound so I can terminate them?
[04:29] <runlevelten> mapster: run restricted-manager
[04:29] <runlevelten> that will do it automatically, ellegedly :)
[04:29] <pag> !wireless | SimonSays
[04:30] <ubotu> SimonSays: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:30] <mapster> np, "restricted-manager" @ command line?
[04:30] <runlevelten> *allegedly also, heh
[04:31] <runlevelten> sudo restricted manager
[04:31] <runlevelten> ;)
[04:31] <SimonSays> the docs at that link doesnt work - thats why i came here in recomenadtion of those docs
[04:32] <mapster> kewl, i can do that without having to go into the commandline from boot right?
[04:32] <runlevelten> yeah
[04:32] <mapster> thanks..  =)
[04:32] <runlevelten> np
[04:34] <vinicius> it seeme my kubuntu isn't recognizing the atx power managment, because when I shutdown the system, it does not turn of the machine automatically... anyone knows what can be this (i installed, so got the kubuntu)...
[04:34] <vinicius> *i installed ubuntu, so got the ubuntu
[04:34] <vinicius> *ubuntu --> kubuntu
[04:34] <vinicius> argh...
[04:35] <K-Ryan> You mean you have Ubuntu, and installed KDE?
[04:35] <vinicius> K-Ryan: yes
[04:36] <vinicius> K-Ryan: installed 'kubuntu-desktop'
[04:36] <K-Ryan> Didn't have that problem before installing KDE?
[04:36] <K-Ryan> Did you install anything else along with it?
[04:36] <vinicius> K-Ryan: no...
[04:36] <vinicius> K-Ryan: no
[04:36] <K-Ryan> Then I don't have a clue
[04:36] <K-Ryan> Sorry
[04:36] <vinicius> K-Ryan: thanks!
[04:37] <K-Ryan> Stick around, I'm sure someone can help.
[04:38] <Kjellviz> hi there, my Amarok aint behaving to good, it starts fine but when i add a song to playlist it becomes greyed out and hangs
[04:39] <K-Ryan> Kjellviz: If I'm not mistaken there is an #amarok channel where you'd be able to get the best help, but feel free to ask here as well.
[04:40] <Kjellviz> ok ill try there, just thougth this was the place since it came bundled with the OS ><
[04:41] <K-Ryan> Kjellviz: Yeah you can ask here too, it's just I can guarantee you'll figure it out faster there
[04:41] <K-Ryan> Well, almost guarantee
[04:41] <Kjellviz> heh im trying there too =)
[04:42] <K-Ryan> That's good, good luck with it
[04:44] <teufel> wenn ich mit Smb4k ein verzeichnis einhngen will bekomm ich folgende fehler meldung
[04:44] <teufel> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[04:44] <teufel> smbmnt failed: 1
[04:45] <teufel> jemand nen tipp?
[04:47] <K-Ryan> German?
[04:47] <K-Ryan> !de
[04:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:47] <teufel> thx
[04:48] <elite101> how do install the the packages i downloaded using adept like the universe and multiuniverse after i "fetch updates"
[04:48] <teufel> :)
[04:48] <K-Ryan> Np ;)
[04:48] <HayaBusa> just click on install after you fetched them
[04:49] <elite101> lol love that bike!!!
[04:49] <elite101> Suzuki hayabusa 1300R!!
[04:49] <elite101> thanx thou
[04:49] <HayaBusa> me too, but damn our government increasing the plate so i had to sell it before was too late
[04:50] <HayaBusa> might get a crouser that i saw , yamaha . custom
[04:50] <elite101> ahh u had one that sucks man
[04:50] <elite101> big bike thou
[04:50] <elite101> 4cycl
[04:50] <elite101> anyways
[04:51] <HayaBusa> 300 $ a year plate .. now is going up to 2000$ a year plate for fast motorcycle ..
[04:51] <elite101> yeah
[04:52] <elite101> i have alot of unistalled packages even after a re-install on kubuntu to i install them all in adept?
[04:52] <HayaBusa> im not linux expert , but you can install packages in adapt,. thats what i do wheni need something .
[04:53] <elite101> yeah but there are some i dont need? like say linux synthesizer? or a computer gui thing? do i need to install thoes or the thing that i need?
[04:53] <K-Ryan> Adept, Synaptic, or straight in the terminal
[04:54] <elite101> im not downloading any specific program just wanna update and turn on multi and universe packets then after i can get java and flashplayer to work for youtube
[04:54] <Kjellviz> how can i kill a hanging application ?
[04:55] <KrAmMeR> does anyone know how to add a second cd/dvd drive in virtualbox?
[04:55] <K-Ryan> Kjellviz: ctrl+alt+esc
[04:55] <elite101> hey they have an iso mounter on kubuntu? sweet lol
[04:55] <K-Ryan> Then click the program
[04:55] <Kjellviz> K-Ryan: thanks 0)
[04:55] <Kjellviz> =)
[04:55] <K-Ryan> No problem
[04:56] <elite101> what packets do i need to install java jre6?
[04:56] <HayaBusa> my problme with this new kubuntu is that i can not install driver for my graphic card. :(
[04:56] <K-Ryan> !java
[04:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:56] <K-Ryan> elite101: sun-java6-jre
[04:57] <elite101> im starting to learn more about kubuntu now its making more and more sense
[04:57] <elite101> i never touched a windows pc in 3 weeks!!!
[04:57] <sfire> wow... 3 whole weeks
[04:57] <elite101> lol
[04:57] <HayaBusa> i daul boot .. some program i need are on xp ..
[04:58] <elite101> i know
[04:58] <sfire> HayaBusa: tried wine?
[04:58] <elite101> but for now i wanna learn and if windows gets in the way it will be frusturating
[04:58] <elite101> yes
[04:58] <HayaBusa> no.. but i looked at DB and my program is not listed.
[04:58] <maxwel> Is that it?
[04:58] <elite101> Wine is good but some programs wont work to good!
[04:58] <sfire> I've had really good luck
[04:58] <sfire> (so far)
[04:59] <sfire> Torrent is flawless :)
[04:59] <HayaBusa> there is a program i might try , i think is called win4lin , it suppose to runn all windows program with native speed on linux
[04:59] <HayaBusa> Intell has invested lot of mony in VMWEAR my guess is to boost linux or something
[05:00] <elite101> after i install all these programs and packets do i need to restart my pc to make them work after?
[05:00] <HayaBusa> no not really
[05:00] <HayaBusa> thats a beautiy of linux i guess
[05:00] <runlevelten> win4lin isn't very good - if you want non-3d compatibility you're better off with vmware
[05:00] <ubuntu> Hey there folks
[05:00] <BluesKaj> win4lin runs windows 95-98, not XP, AFAIK
[05:00] <runlevelten> a lot better than win4lin and there are free versiona available
[05:01] <runlevelten> *versions
[05:01] <HayaBusa> it will run 2000 and xp as per thier website
[05:01] <elite101> yes i know how to download updates and stuff lol i am so happy!!
[05:01] <runlevelten> wtg elite101 :)
[05:01] <elite101> lol
[05:01] <elite101> better than me asking everyone to do stuff for me!!
[05:01] <elite101> i can do it on my own lol
[05:01] <ubuntu> I got a couple questions. Is anyone using the Kubuntu Gutsy tribe 3?
[05:02] <pag> !gutsy | ubuntu
[05:02] <ubotu> ubuntu: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[05:02] <runlevelten> Finding your way with new stuff - I love that feeling so much :D
[05:02] <elite101> how many linux distros are there?
[05:02] <runlevelten> So cool.
[05:02] <elite101> lol
[05:02] <runlevelten> elite101: NAN
[05:02] <elite101> whats nan?
[05:02] <K-Ryan> not available now
[05:02] <runlevelten> not a number, heh. Too many to count really.
[05:02] <elite101> ohh
[05:02] <elite101> yeah
[05:02] <ubuntu> Elite, there are several distros mixed for x86, x64, Mac, etc..
[05:02] <elite101> there is alot of kubutu's thou
[05:03] <K-Ryan> Or what runlevelten said...
[05:03] <K-Ryan> *buntu
[05:03] <K-Ryan> There's one Kubuntu, one Ubuntu, etc.
[05:03] <elite101> mac?? thats pretty cool?
[05:03] <K-Ryan> The group of them is called *buntu
[05:03] <runlevelten> Of course.
[05:03] <elite101> i mean versions of ubuntu
[05:03] <HayaBusa> i love MAC GUI ..
[05:03] <elite101> like some have KDE and Edgy
[05:03] <HayaBusa> wish new how to turn my kubuntu to look like mac
[05:03] <elite101> what is the diff?
[05:03] <runlevelten> It's Free open source software, if it's got the juice to run it, and if it meets certain really basic req's, you can port to it :)
[05:04] <elite101> a better gui?
[05:04] <elite101> i heard of linux on a router ppl run on linksys wrtg45?
[05:04] <HayaBusa> not better , but i like the way it is .
[05:04] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: I use OS-L icons, and have the app menu like OS X (set in desktop behaviour in kcontrol)
[05:04] <ubuntu> Elite there are several spring offs for ubuntu. The beauty of Linux is that it can be nearly fully customized to fit any particular need or fancy..
[05:04] <runlevelten> also you can use Apple keybindings in KDE
[05:04] <elite101> so u can make yout kubuntu feel like a mac osx or windows but it wont be thats pretty cool!!
[05:04] <runlevelten> I don't run the dock anywhere, but there are apps that supposedly do that too
[05:05] <HayaBusa> i new to linux , this type of modification for is out of question.. due to the fact that i crashed my linux humm few times . heheheh
[05:05] <elite101> i wanna get a fake vista theme with the tranparent class effect on all the windows
[05:05] <runlevelten> Mine *looks a tiny bit* like OS X, and the menus work like it, but the OS itself is a lot better and more robust and more powerful than OS X
[05:05] <SimonSays> i find this form to be crap and ubuntu not very user friendly. i say this with over 18yrs of Microsoft operating systems experience. no wonder no other OS has yet been able to rival Bill's vision of usability
[05:06] <ubuntu> I have Kubuntu on this computer, my studio uses 64Studio, I have Ubuntu Ultimate on my notebook.
[05:06] <HayaBusa> you forgot about VISTA.. no one moving to it
[05:06] <runlevelten> It's fine if you're not a dummy, basically.
[05:06] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: All of that can be done with your mouse
[05:06] <HayaBusa> even Dell started to offer Kubuntu ..
[05:06] <runlevelten> the modification etc.
[05:07] <HayaBusa> thanks. runlevel..
[05:07] <ubuntu> Simon, keep your eyes open, people are starting to look more at linux.
[05:07] <elite101> kubuntu can rescue broken systems althou i did have problems mounting a NTFS partition'd harddrive
[05:07] <HayaBusa> for now i have to figure on how to install my graphic cards driver..
[05:07] <runlevelten> Install OS-L and mac sounds, use mac menus, install baghira and use it, install kxdocker and beryl and use them
[05:07] <runlevelten> all with a mouse in kcontrol, synaptic and a browser :)
[05:07] <ubuntu> People are tired of paying $200 for a basic OS and $400 for a complete OS..
[05:07] <SimonSays> hopefully next time a rival is more worthy
[05:07] <SimonSays> cheers
[05:08] <HayaBusa> lol. micorosft spy
[05:08] <runlevelten> "Worthy".
[05:08] <runlevelten> BAHAHAHAHAHA!
[05:08] <runlevelten> Excuse me. Sorry.
[05:08] <elite101> so can i search up something in adept eg and program name and it will show me the packets to download and install it?
[05:08] <gambix> hi to all :)
[05:08] <ubuntu> Some folks are just scared of change (and a little terminal)
[05:08] <runlevelten> hi gambix :)
[05:08] <HayaBusa> vista is been the best thing ever happend to any other OS out there. seems no one really bothering with that crapy OS anyways.
[05:09] <gambix> is there someone that success on running compiz-fusion without windows-decorator problems ?
[05:09] <runlevelten> I'm a programmer and sysadmin, I'm amazed anyone thinks that other software can match up against GNU/Linux.
[05:09] <ubuntu> I have a dual boot, vista and Kubuntu (Loading Gutsy right now) And all being honest, I like the linux distros better.
[05:10] <runlevelten> The game involves GNU/Linux. the big BSDs and possibly Solaris. Windows is not a contender for anything but washing the glasses after the party.
[05:10] <ubuntu> The only reason I keep windows on is that there are still a couple programs I use that require windows. But I am seeing many more linux apps emerging here lately..
[05:11] <gambix> ubuntu: true, this week end i've swapped 10 computers on linux kubuntu :)
[05:11] <runlevelten> But I'm biased towards server apps to be fair.
[05:11] <elite101> wow adept is installing alot of updates even some saying Python??
[05:11] <HayaBusa> everyone that i know , including me , running window , they have to have tons of security software on thier system , you never endup using your computers full power due to the fact of those program running in the background to protect your pc.. with linux i have no problmes like that
[05:11] <BluesKaj> the PC mags are lining up with Bill gates pushing his latest offering like mad ...it's rather sickening cuz , half the hardware programs ppl had running xp won't run on vista, so that fact keeps the mags in business with lots of articles on on to fix the probs .
[05:11] <K-Ryan> elite101: Yep
[05:11] <runlevelten> elite101:  good stuff
[05:11] <elite101> yes i know what u mean
[05:11] <elite101> avg,sygate,ad-ware se
[05:11] <elite101> ohh a windows defender
[05:11] <BluesKaj> on how to fix the probs
[05:11] <elite101> firewall all the way up
[05:12] <elite101> just to boot windows takes 5mins before i can acutally do something
[05:12] <HayaBusa> billy has lots of money , and everyone else got price ..:) ..
[05:12] <gambix> on linux the securities systems are included on the kernel for a great part
[05:12] <gambix> have you already the windows menu ?
[05:12] <gambix> sartmenu ?
[05:12] <elite101> linux takes awhile since it mount's hdd and drivers and such but atleats it goes way faster
[05:12] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: exactly, for all the ease of use and the quick install of windows, I don't find myself installing extra software and drivers from disc/internet for 2 hours after installing ubuntu
[05:12] <HayaBusa> im talking about viruse, adwear, trojans and stuff.
[05:13] <Biovore> well linux security is based mostly on the fact you don't use the computer as the super user (Administrator)
[05:13] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: and I don't find myself needing an extra core to run the AV, anti-spyware/whatever else, which all amounts to bailing out a boat with a hole in.
[05:13] <ubuntu> The only complaint I have had so far running linux on this computer is that my computer being an amd64 doesn't like loading 32 bit linux. And there are limits still in 64 bit linux.
[05:13] <HayaBusa> lol, is true ..
[05:13] <elite101> yeah you have to have a anti-virus once u step foot on the internet they attack your pc with spyware u need a condom for your windows pc
[05:13] <ubuntu> But I am sticking with it. I have faith in the little penguin that could..
[05:13] <Biovore> ubuntu: there limits on 64bit windows as well
[05:14] <HayaBusa> ihave 64 bit AMD and im running 32 bit linux with no problme what so ever.
[05:14] <elite101> whats the diff between 64bit isnt that better i am assuming u mean like viewing and graphics
[05:14] <runlevelten> I believe in the best tool for the job. At the moment, that means run windows when you play oblivion. With the network card disabled.
[05:14] <runlevelten> Maybe.
[05:14] <runlevelten> heh
[05:14] <ubuntu> Biovore, I agree. However, windows 32 has no problems loading on a 64 processor..
[05:15] <elite101> whats the diff?
[05:15] <elite101> 32/64
[05:15] <Biovore> not much
[05:15] <runlevelten> For most purposes not much
[05:15] <HayaBusa> windows is going down . and they know it .. look at thier DOT NET .. no one porting into DOT NET as well .
[05:15] <elite101> but why are they diffrent i am meaning in graphics like 32bitt if thats what u mena?
[05:15] <runlevelten> video encoding and some other stuff will be noticeably faster using 64 bit builds
[05:15] <Biovore> 64 you might occasionly save a on cpu cycle when multipliing or adding large numbers..
[05:15] <ubuntu> elite, 64 bit systems can load larger packages at a time, in essence, it runs more efficiently than 32 bit..
[05:15] <elite101> okay
[05:15] <runlevelten> mostly you find things about the same for desktop use
[05:16] <elite101> i always wondered why they had them diffrent 32 and 64bitt
[05:16] <gambix> i use linux for the simplicity of use, it's more simple than windows... thanks to the ubuntu forums too :), ... kde simplify the use too
[05:16] <runlevelten> for lots of non-desktop computing stuff 64 bit platforms are very handy.
[05:16] <elite101> so u can run 32 bit software on 64bit prossecor and it should be okay
[05:16] <HayaBusa> i been using photoshop for some times, but i just started to GIMP and it seems pretty good ..
[05:17] <Biovore> HayaBusa: gimp works better if you got a drawing tablet.
[05:17] <ubuntu> Elite, in the near future, the 32 bit OS will disappear. 64 is more efficient, and now you can't buy a pc that isn't amd 64 or Intel em64t
[05:17] <HayaBusa> one of the reason im running 32 bit on 64 is that there is no flash player for 64 bit . on nighter platform as far as i can tell
[05:17] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: Set your layers/tool palette/etc to always on top, and put them in the same places they are in photoshop
[05:17] <elite101> lol i love when ppl get mad when they are gamming they blame the hardware for the stupid ness. lol my moms boyfriend is playing ra2 and he smahing his mouse
[05:17] <CPrompt^> hi all.  There was a post on a forum (I think it was Linux Questions but not sure) where someone posted directions on how to set up 2 hard drives to dual boot windows and linux.  Anyone know where that might be?
[05:17] <runlevelten> You'll probably find it a bit faster to use/explore the interface
[05:18] <runlevelten> Also, I tend to put gimp on its own desktop for intensive work
[05:18] <ubuntu> Haya, I have to use ndswrapper for flash and java
[05:18] <HayaBusa> i got tablet , but have to figure how to install stuff like that , I am taking one baby step at the time with linux :) ..
[05:18] <elite101> what is cheaper a ps3? or a new pc gamming pc?
[05:18] <HayaBusa> PS3
[05:18] <runlevelten> the second, although you can always find someone to charge you too much for a pc
[05:18] <runlevelten> heh
[05:18] <Biovore> you install linux on a PS3 as well
[05:18] <elite101> yes
[05:19] <ubuntu> Elite, PS3, many game companies have already stated that they will start focusing more on the game consoles than PC now..
[05:19] <sam1337> anybody know of a good font?
[05:19] <runlevelten> No good for gaming though
[05:19] <elite101> and windows but i will dual boot
[05:19] <elite101> lol
[05:19] <elite101> i mean triple!!
[05:19] <ubuntu> Biovore, I have acutually lookes at loading Yellowdog on my PS3
[05:19] <elite101> they say yellow dog linux is good
[05:19] <runlevelten> No decent hardware acceleration, you see, and the arch means that most of the best Linux 3d games are a nono
[05:19] <Biovore> Ubuntu ppc I think will work on the PS3
[05:19] <elite101> yeah but u cant put windows on your ps3/ you can but your running three os'es
[05:19] <runlevelten> basically, don't expect to use the ps3 for Linux games
[05:20] <pag> sam1337, for what? do you seek 'cool' look or readability? :)
[05:20] <sam1337> pag clearness
[05:20] <sam1337> pag so really readability
[05:20] <elite101> and u can use the xbox360 controller using linux drivers!!!
[05:20] <Biovore> PS3 is x86.. windows will not run on it..
[05:20] <HayaBusa> one thing i don't get .. why people want to play intensive games on PC while they already have good gaming consols ???
[05:20] <Biovore> (isn't)
[05:20] <elite101> yes it will
[05:20] <runlevelten> PS3 isn't x86, lol :)
[05:20] <elite101> youtube it
[05:20] <sam1337> HayaBusa so they dont have to pay for 2 machines
[05:20] <HayaBusa> i have ps2, and thats all , if i need to play game , i just play with my PS2
[05:20] <elite101> this guys runs yellow dog and then he runs windowsxp pro
[05:20] <Biovore> well someone is pulling a prank.. it can not.. and will not run on a PS3
[05:21] <Biovore> its the wrong hardware platform
[05:21] <sam1337> HayaBusa and general conveniance
[05:21] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: PC gaming offers extensibility and the usual control devices offer FAR greater accuracy
[05:21] <pag> sam1337, I use Red Hat's Liberation -fonts with Anti-aliasing turned on and it looks rather clear to me.
[05:21] <sam1337> HayaBusa and theres alot more games available
[05:21] <elite101> yes it will i will bring up the link and this time only post it once :)
[05:21] <runlevelten> (I've written software to interface console controllers to FPS engines, console controllers are very very inaccurate)
[05:21] <Biovore> sam1337: you can install any ttf font you want..
[05:21] <mewshi> hello :)
[05:22] <HayaBusa> I guess everyone is different , i use my PC for my work .. such as a bit of programming , internet , graphics, and talk to you guys. :) .
[05:22] <mewshi> I have discovered the amazing beauty of ubuntu :)
[05:22] <runlevelten> Now I have to load up my music player :)
[05:22] <sam1337> mewshi so have 8 million other people
[05:22] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: at the moment I'm living vicariously with drivers, so no FPS for me
[05:22] <runlevelten> helps me get more work done anyway
[05:22] <elite101> well i cant always beleive everything u see on youtube but this guy does run windows on ps3!!
[05:23] <mewshi> after 6 months of trying, ubuntu finally gave me the resources to get the wireless working
[05:23] <runlevelten> living vicariously == no non-Free drivers.
[05:23] <mewshi> and it works GREAT
[05:23] <sam1337> mewshi you could of just tried different distributions one of them is bound to work
[05:23] <runlevelten> mewshi: Excellent stuff! You enjoying it?
[05:24] <runlevelten> OpenSuSE is better for hardware and codecs generally, although I've seen tests that found ubuntu had better hardware support for centre cases.
[05:24] <runlevelten> so you know, it's what works for you.
[05:25] <BluesKaj> suse repos ...bleh
[05:25] <HayaBusa> anyone got some experiance with RAD5 ? i have a script that requires flash comm server .. but I aint paying arm and leg for that monster.
[05:25] <elite101> hes running windows xp on linux kernel the video comments say its a chinees winxp thou
[05:25] <runlevelten> It ain't the repos, the repos and the build service and the QC and the default configs were all great
[05:26] <runlevelten> Novell just crapped all over the package management syste rom a great height, then all over us.
[05:26] <elite101> Biovore, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Ecr8tWetI thats the link for the ps3 running windows!!!! HAHA
[05:26] <runlevelten> drove folks away, and consequently their distro will slide down the quality ladder.
[05:27] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, really ..? my experience with suse repos was awful ...broken pkg allover the map
[05:27] <runlevelten> Although Novell still contribute much more code to the software we're using than any other company at the moment.
[05:27] <sam1337> opensuse has a crap package management systsem
[05:27] <runlevelten> as far as I'm aware
[05:27] <sam1337> apt is the best!
[05:27] <dra90n3ddy> hi all, just a quick question, what size partition is recomended for kubuntu install?
[05:27] <sam1337> 5gb
[05:27] <runlevelten> I use apt on SuSE :p
[05:27] <BluesKaj> as large as you want
[05:28] <HayaBusa> damn i think i forgot the name of comm server equivalent for linux :(
[05:28] <runlevelten> when I work with SuSE servers, I have apt installed on them.
[05:28] <dra90n3ddy> ty sam1337
[05:28] <sam1337> dra90n3ddy 5gb root paritition i mean
[05:28] <runlevelten> I'm above 5gigs now, tbh
[05:29] <elite101> cant u run linux on a ps2 there is a kit for it?
[05:29] <sam1337> im at 7gb but using about 20% of it
[05:29] <Karti> could some one tell me the command or link to the kubuntu bot information page
[05:29] <pag> !ubotu | Karti
[05:29] <runlevelten> elite101: yes you can. Again, you won't have access to much of the gaming functionality
[05:29] <ubotu> Karti: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:30] <Karti> pag: by the way I found out the answer for the smb links in the /etc/fstab
[05:30] <elite101> runlevelten, why not i wonder how much ram the video card would show on ps2????
[05:30] <runlevelten> sam1337: http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net/ ;)
[05:30] <pag> Karti, congratulations :)
[05:30] <[4K^Javax] > :D
[05:30] <Karti> pag: I had to apt-get install smbfs
[05:30] <Karti> for future reference of course ;)
[05:31] <elite101> wow my adept is updating somuch stuff rite now wholy!
[05:31] <sfire> elite101: I just got a bunch of updates myself
[05:32] <sam1337> runlevelten i doubt it is as robust, quick, easy, powerful as a default apt package management system
[05:32] <runlevelten> Is it KDE updates?
[05:32] <elite101> lol u wont belive it went threw 20downloads and its only reading at 13% on the totall porgress
[05:32] <elite101> if i run ubuntu on my  xbox would i beable to talk to you guys on IRC?
[05:32] <elite101> lol
[05:32] <runlevelten> sam1337: It's the best apt available for the platforms, tbh. That's one whole hill of beans better than nothing if you need it.
[05:32] <sam1337> why would you want ubuntu on your xbox?
[05:33] <elite101> something a littel differnt
[05:33] <elite101> beats the xbox loading screen!!
[05:33] <BluesKaj> if you can connect to your ISP, whynot?
[05:33] <pag> Karti, thanks for the info, I'll try to keep that in mind :)
[05:33] <elite101> thats cool would it go fast i mean 64mb ram/733Mhz
[05:33] <elite101> xbox specs:
[05:33] <Karti> pag: its now on my quick fix spreadsheet (need to get out more!)
[05:33] <BluesKaj> I've heard of several linux hacks for the xbox
[05:34] <HayaBusa> how can i uninstall .deb package that i downloaded and installed on my system ?
[05:34] <elite101> yeah stuff about dvd firmware and such
[05:34] <mewshi> is there something like portable apps for linux? :\
[05:34] <pag> HayaBusa, sudo apt-get remove nameofthepackage
[05:34] <elite101> gamming systems should support linux thats pretty cool on how u can go and surf the web and such
[05:34] <sfire> HayaBusa: right click it
[05:35] <HayaBusa> thanks. i got to write that down .
[05:35] <sam1337> HayaBusa apt-get remove packagename
[05:35] <sfire> oh... I didn't see the "un" part
[05:35] <Biovore> mewshi: basicly if you the source code for the application you can put it on any platform, and OS if its been written right..
[05:35] <runlevelten> portable apps? as in firefox, thunderbird etc?
[05:35] <mewshi> yeah, portabe OO.o is WONDERFUL for me
[05:36] <mewshi> but i can't get it to run from my drive :(
[05:36] <BluesKaj> elite101, it's still computer, just setup for gaming , that's all
[05:36] <HayaBusa> dose remove command , remove everything about that program , or like microsoft uninstaller , later i have to go and remove files and folders manully
[05:36] <runlevelten> It still loads a native executable mewshi
[05:36] <runlevelten> So you just need to do exactly the same thing with a Linux version of those apps
[05:36] <elite101> after i do the huge updates do i have to restart my computer?
[05:36] <elite101> and u can still play on xbox games too
[05:37] <elite101> i love portable apps!
[05:37] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: apt-get remove packagename
[05:37] <mewshi> how?  like, for oo.o i just had to run a file to install it to the drive O-o
[05:37] <elite101> i have portable apps installed on my psp so i can connect it toanother pc and use my firefox
[05:37] <pag> HayaBusa, it doesn't remove configuration-files iirc.
[05:37] <HayaBusa> thanks.
[05:38] <mewshi> yeah, but how would i do a portable version of OO.o?
[05:38] <runlevelten> apt-get --purge remove packagename does.
[05:38] <runlevelten> well, now you know you need to make a linux-specific version, so you know what to ask the console or the wall of light to obtain your answer :)
[05:39] <runlevelten> right, I must go.
[05:39] <runlevelten> later
[05:39] <HayaBusa> later runlevel
[05:40] <CPrompt^> got a new video card and am having issues.  anyone care to help? :(
[05:40] <pag> CPrompt^, what model?
[05:40] <sam1337> what sort of issues?
[05:40] <CPrompt^> ATI Radeon
[05:41] <sam1337> you shouldnt of got that card
[05:41] <CPrompt^> i have multiple xorg.conf files for one problem.
[05:41] <sam1337> nvidia has far superior drivers
[05:41] <sam1337> i got a new video card just because it was an nvidia one
[05:42] <elite101> im running nvidia Vanta 1mb of video ram 256 colours
[05:42] <elite101> 640x480
[05:42] <BluesKaj> sam1337, stop critique , he's here for help , not to be chastised for buying the "wrong" graphics card
[05:42] <elite101> lol
[05:42] <sam1337> BluesKaj sorry ill go away then since im not much help
[05:42] <elite101> ati radeon is not bad better than anything i have :)
[05:42] <sam1337> bye everyone
[05:42] <pag> CPrompt^, multiple? like xorg.conf, xorg.conf.bak etc?
[05:42] <Karti> anyone know a way I can test my 5:1 sound card?
[05:42] <CPrompt^> pag : no like xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf2 etc...
[05:43] <CPrompt^> all the way to 7
[05:43] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, which ATI card ?
[05:43] <elite101> Karti, blast metallica?
[05:43] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj : RADEON X600 256MB HYPERMEMORY
[05:43] <CPrompt^> no sorry
[05:43] <mewshi> :\
[05:43] <elite101> ha i have 512mb video ram nvidia 8900gtx
[05:43] <Karti> elite101: I like the idea, but was thinking more like white noise on each speaker ;)
[05:43] <pag> CPrompt^, and not the 'normal' xorg.conf ?
[05:44] <elite101> Karti, lol
[05:44] <elite101> Karti, just play a movie with good pholyphone digital surrond support?
[05:44] <HayaBusa> anyone got experiance with RED5???
[05:44] <CPrompt^> Radeon x300 SE
[05:44] <Karti> or maybe Lordi , those Eurovision Champions....ahhh
[05:44] <BluesKaj> ok CPrompt^ describe your problem
[05:45] <CPrompt^> it boots into console
[05:45] <Karti> elite101: Its just that I used a test before ..sure its test speakers
[05:45] <elite101> i was going to get the Nvidia 9900 with 1gig/ram 2.4ghz GPU and liquid cooling but ohwell
[05:45] <CPrompt^> i can try the startx but it will hang
[05:45] <Biovore> CPrompt^: I think x300 is on of those cards ATI dosn't support on linux..
[05:45] <BluesKaj> Biovore, not true!
[05:45] <CPrompt^> eigh.  I'll just put the nVidia back in.  :)  The Radeon was given to me anyway.  Just thought I'd give it a shot :p
[05:46] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, ok you're going to have to choose an active xorg.file ...having 2 of them is not a good idea
[05:46] <CPrompt^> It's the same memory anyway.  But doesn't the "HyperMemory" part mean that it is using some of the RAM for the video card?
[05:46] <Karti> found it.......its speaker-test
[05:46] <elite101> Karti, lol are u testing to see if it works? are they 5.1 speakers u wil get better sound qual. if u have a 5.1-7.1surrond sound supported card
[05:47] <elite101> creative augidy or something like is pretty good card
[05:47] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj :  I think one of the things that happened was that I used this script to install Beryl a while back.  That seems to be what is causing the weirdness for the xorg.conf files
[05:47] <Biovore> audigy is a SB Live minius the hardware pcm mixing
[05:47] <BluesKaj> ok, but the Radeon will work for 3d and DRI , it's just somewhat limited vs the nVidia
[05:48] <Karti> elite101: I have a creative audidy card that I have just put in and wanted to test it. I get sound from it fine but wanted to make shure each speaker worked correctly
[05:48] <elite101> okay
[05:48] <Karti> all help or pointers ia appreciated
[05:48] <elite101> Karti, do they work
[05:48] <Karti> yes... ;)
[05:48] <elite101> lol nice
[05:48] <elite101> what kind of speaker logitech or something
[05:48] <CPrompt^> BlueKaj : would it be possible to just delete the other xorg.conf files and reboot?  Not sure if I can find a driver for the ATI though.
[05:49] <Karti> yes logitech
[05:49] <elite101> lol sounds like u bought this stuff all at wal-mart!!
[05:49] <elite101> or staples
[05:49] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, yes but I recommend running a reconfigure of the Xorg file
[05:50] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj : care to refresh my memory on how to do that?
[05:50] <elite101> what is the best multimedia player? for say .mp3/mp4/avi/pcm?
[05:50] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, at the prompt or in the terminal , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:50] <elite101> lol 101
[05:51] <pag> !best | elite101
[05:51] <ubotu> elite101: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:51] <elite101> kaffine lol/
[05:51] <pag> elite101, movies = Kaffeine, music = amarok  (my choises)
[05:51] <mewshi> for example, i might prefer xmms to amarok
[05:51] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj : thanks!
[05:52] <elite101> well brb udpates are going to take like 1hour going to go play some halo2
[05:52] <jhutchins> Me, I never could get kaffeine to work for more than a couple of file formats, now I just use mplayer.
[05:52] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, BTW , I use a patched and modded driver on feisty , that if you are careful can make th Radeon X300 run fine ...I'm using an on board x200g and it works well, but I'm not into eye candy much , so.....
[05:52] <mewshi> elite101, when you say best, do you mean best interface, best implementations of formats, what?
[05:52] <elite101> ahh for the most file  format supported
[05:53] <mewshi> Ok :)
[05:53] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj : don't need the eyecandy, just need it to work ;)
[05:53] <elite101> like the one that can play the most files from .mp4 wich i need the most
[05:53] <mewshi> that one is a little more cut-and-dried than the "Best interface"
[05:53] <elite101> anything play .mp4?
[05:53] <mewshi> um... yeah, some stuff does
[05:54] <elite101> or m-peg layer4
[05:54] <mewshi> i just don't know what XD
[05:54] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, ok here's a tutorial for low end ATI cards : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[05:54] <mewshi> god, it's been like 10 months since I last used linux on a constant basis
[05:54] <elite101> i will have to download an mp4 file and see what will open it once i click on it and see how i like it
[05:55] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj : awsome thanks!
[05:55] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, the xine engine is the setting to choose in Kaffeine , it runs most video formats
[05:55] <elite101> i want to make a server in the future for my friends to access online and for me to put files away would be nice wondering if it can be a wireless adhoc one?
[05:55] <elite101> what nvm thats not possible lol
[05:56] <elite101> it has to be infrastructure lol ad-hoc only i would beable to use it
[05:56] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, don't thank me yet ...wait til it's setup and working ... :)
[05:58] <mewshi> is there a program like netstumbler?
[05:58] <zero_> hey
[05:59] <zero_> i did upgrade at adept and now there is ubuntu kernel 15 and ubuntu kernel 16
[05:59] <zero_> when i go to 16 my modem doesnt work
[05:59] <zero_> if it is a different kernel /lib/firmware is different?
[06:01] <zero_> anyone that can help?
[06:03] <BluesKaj> mewshi, wireless ?
[06:06] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[06:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:06] <BluesKaj> !ndsiwrapper
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndsiwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <BluesKaj> oops
[06:07] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[06:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:08] <zero_> can you help me blueskaj?
[06:08] <joshjosh> I just updated on my HP dv6110us and when I did my power manager says the battery has been removed...
[06:08] <joshjosh> wondering if anyone with a laptop has the same problem....
[06:10] <BluesKaj> zero_, dunno , depends on the prob , just ask and someone will help, if i can't.
[06:11] <zero_> my modem is kinda strange and to make it work i had to extract firmware
[06:11] <zero_> in lib/firmware/something
[06:11] <zero_> now i did adept upgrade
[06:11] <zero_> and grub has
[06:11] <zero_> ubuntu kernel something.something.something.15
[06:11] <zero_> and the same thing with 16
[06:11] <zero_> i entered 16 and the modem didnt work
[06:13] <neusonce> grrrrr, i need some help trying to install flash!   no terminal cmds work
[06:13] <Agent_137> i'm having the worst trouble getting this flash tar ball installed on konqueror, and i'm using the 32 bit version, too. will it work with konq? What's the default install directory for konq?
[06:13] <BluesKaj> zero_, sorry I have no idea except for you to search for new drivers for your modem that run on the new kernel
[06:13] <zero_> oh...
[06:13] <jhutchins> !flash | neusonce
[06:13] <ubotu> neusonce: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:13] <neusonce> thank you  :)
[06:14] <Agent_137> that answers my question too, it seems
[06:14] <jhutchins> zero_: Any time you update the kernel, you need to update any separately installed modules and drivers as well.
[06:14] <Agent_137> thanks.
[06:14] <pascutti> !flash
[06:14] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:15] <BluesKaj> Agent_137, installing the flash nonfree versions thru adept or synaptic, assures a global install (all apps requiring flash will work)
[06:17] <Agent_137> excellent, thanks
[06:18] <houmala> Somehow I got the file opening with gThumb(?) how do I get it back to "normal" ???
[06:20] <pag> houmala, right click on the file, choos open with -> other  there select a programm you lick, and tick "remember.." -box
[06:20] <zero_> hey pag
[06:20] <zero_>  was |Zero|H|I|T| yesterday
[06:20] <zero_> i reinstalled kubuntu
[06:20] <houmala> Anyone... somehow I got got gThumb image viewer displaying the files. How do I get back to "normal" way of viewing files????
[06:20] <pag> like, no lick... I clearly cannot type anymore :P
[06:21] <southafrikanse> Hello. I've install KDM but I can't find it
[06:21] <houmala> What is the program for viewing files "normally"???
[06:21] <pag> zero_, oh.. did the reinstall went well?
[06:21] <pag> houmala, what files?
[06:21] <GrahamA> southafrikanse: What do you mean you can't find it?
[06:21] <southafrikanse> GrahamA: I can't find the shortcut
[06:22] <zero_> yeah i guess
[06:22] <houmala> general file list , the file list are showing like images in gThumb.
[06:22] <zero_> but when i boot
[06:22] <GrahamA> You're not maing sense.
[06:22] <zero_> a message came
[06:22] <GrahamA> What shortcut.
[06:22] <neusonce> grrrr im still stuck, the link you gave me was for  an ealier version of ubuntu
[06:22] <eltese> why cant I write in my sources.list file? How do I change the permissions?
[06:22] <BluesKaj> southafrikanse, look in adept , to see if it's installed
[06:22] <neusonce>  i need to know how to install flash on 7.04
[06:22] <zero_> 4960 days without checking /dev/sda2 for errors
[06:22] <zero_> and it found errors at root partition
[06:22] <southafrikanse> BluesKaj: It's installed
[06:22] <pag> !sudo | eltese
[06:22] <ubotu> eltese: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:23] <GrahamA> zero_: I had longer when I installed it... apparently I hadn't checked my hard drive for 134 years...
[06:23] <BluesKaj> neusonce, installing the flash nonfree versions thru adept or synaptic, assures a global install (all apps requiring flash will work)
[06:23] <eltese> pag: yes I know :) I runned the command "sudo edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <eltese> but no luck
[06:23] <zero_> but i got errors and i am worried :(
[06:23] <pag> edit?  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list  should work
[06:23] <eltese> ok
[06:23] <eltese> thx :)
[06:24] <GrahamA> zero_: It fixed them
[06:24] <GrahamA> Just let it check and it fixes them automaticly.
[06:24] <zero_> idk if it did that :(
[06:24] <pag> southafrikanse, KDM is a login manager, iirc it has no shortcuts built in it
[06:25] <eltese> pag: get a error message saying that I kate cannot connect to the x server
[06:25] <southafrikanse> pag: The how can I access it. So I can costumize my desktop?
[06:25] <eltese> And I still get permission denied
[06:25] <eltese> :p
[06:25] <neusonce> macromedia  flash puglin cannot be installed on my computer type ?
[06:26] <pag> neusonce, what does uname -m return?
[06:26] <houmala> got it fixed..thanks
[06:26] <root__> Hi, I trying to install kubuntu fiesty on my dell E1505 laptop. However, when I start install, after selecting keyboard type, my keyboard doesn work. any help ?
[06:26] <Ace2016> eltese: are you trying to run kate as root? try kdesu kate from Alt+F2
[06:27] <eltese> Ace2016: ok
[06:27] <eltese> will try that
[06:27] <pag> southafrikanse, KDM doesn't customize your desktop... kdmtheme lets you customize your KDM and can be found in kcontrol... desktop can be customized in either kcontrol or SysSettings
[06:27] <neusonce> ok, i am a toaly newbie, i need to learn linux for blender and  studio apps, i  have no idea!
[06:28] <ardchoille> pag: iirc, he will have to install kdmtheme if he hasn't already, it doesn't ship with kubuntu
[06:28] <jhutchins> kdm is the login manager
[06:28] <pag> neusonce, open konsole, type " uname -m " and tell what does the command putput
[06:28] <neusonce> x86_64
[06:28] <pag> ardchoille, oh.. forgot that, thanks for clearing up :)
[06:28] <neusonce> sorry  late
[06:28] <pag> !flash64 | neusonce
[06:28] <ubotu> neusonce: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:29] <neusonce> ok dude
[06:29] <neusonce> thanks
[06:29] <mewshi> how do i get my keyboard's multimedia buttons to work?
[06:29] <eltese> got it working now. Thanks alot
[06:38] <Karti> right...time for some help.....can get 2.1 speaker but not 5.1 using my audigy sb card any ideas?
[06:40] <BluesKaj> Karti, did you check the kmix settings for multichannel , surround center and LFE ?
[06:41] <Karti> BluesKaj: they are there and I can move them with no difference to sound
[06:41] <rtwick> Hi I trying to install kubuntu on dell e1505 laptop. however after selecting keyboard type during install, keyboard gets messed up.
[06:41] <rtwick> any help ?
[06:41] <Karti> BluesKaj: even installed alsamixergui and still the same issues
[06:41] <southafrikanse> I have no sound :( Can someone help me?
[06:43] <Karti> southafrikanse:  try system settings > sound system > tick enable the sound system box
[06:43] <BluesKaj> okk Karti , check alsamixer in the terminal , to make sure they are setup right m kae sure you have no MM in the box cntrls , that means muted the boxes should all read '00' . Use the M key to unmute.
[06:43] <BluesKaj> M key
[06:43] <southafrikanse> Karti: It's already ticked
[06:44] <rtwick> ?
[06:44] <rtwick> Please can someone help me with my keyboard problem?
[06:46] <DjDarkman> where is the best place to report an adept_updater bug?
[06:46] <DjDarkman> I mean
[06:46] <DjDarkman> adept_notifier
[06:46] <pag> DjDarkman, launchpad?
[06:46] <vecchioGasometro> hey raga
[06:47] <vecchioGasometro> perch in kubuntu feisty non ci sono le qt 4.3 ma ci sono ancora le 4.2.3 ?
[06:47] <pag> DjDarkman, https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[06:47] <DjDarkman> ok just forgot my account
[06:47] <pag> !it | vecchioGasometro
[06:47] <ubotu> vecchioGasometro: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:49] <Karti> BluesKaj: I can move them all but and the only one I can set is the iec985. My sound is comming from the Analog f
[06:49] <neusonce> ok i  think its going to work guys,  well know soon  thanks so much
[06:49] <Karti> southafrikanse: sorry having some sound issues of my own :(
[06:51] <southafrikanse> Karti: No problem. I have to go to Windows now.
[06:51] <Karti> sorry not much help ;)
[06:52] <vecchioGasometro> oh
[06:52] <elite101> !windows
[06:52] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:52] <elite101> lmao
[06:53] <vecchioGasometro> pag: sorry I've joined the wrong channel!!!!
[06:53] <pag> vecchioGasometro, np :)
[06:53] <BluesKaj> Karti, go to the IEC 958 and set it to pcm
[06:54] <Karti> BluesKaj: sorry to be a pain, but could yo u explain that a bit more....kind of lost me
[06:55] <elite101> help i got an error downloading a package http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main linux-image2.6.15?
[06:55] <elite101> is that good?
[06:56] <|Zero|H|I|T|> hey
[06:56] <pag> elite101, depends what kind of error?
[06:56] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i downloaded nvidia graphics card from adept
[06:56] <|Zero|H|I|T|> and when loading the screen is black
[06:56] <elite101> it wont download the package it says in the progress box beside it in adept error
[06:56] <|Zero|H|I|T|> and i cant do anything
[06:57] <RichoHealey> |Zero|H|I|T|: hey ssup
[06:57] <pag> elite101, could you please run " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade " in konsole
[06:58] <elite101> and i didnt download libxine-main 1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.7
[06:58] <elite101> it*
[06:58] <elite101> why? i am updating in adept ritenow
[06:58] <montoya> cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep color
[06:59] <pag> elite101, ok.. But when the updates are done, you might want to try those, APT works usually better than a Adept
[06:59] <RichoHealey> a quick question about sudo; i type sudo, and then anything that i type on that line runs as root?
[06:59] <montoya> cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep color -> what color???
[06:59] <dutch> how do I permanent install of kubuntu from the liveCD ?
[07:00] <sfire> dutch: click the install link on the desktop
[07:00] <dutch> it's not there :(
[07:01] <elite101> i had that prob b4
[07:01] <elite101> where it didnt show install i just restarted the computer
[07:01] <|Zero|H|I|T|> anybody that can help with the black screen?
[07:01] <strog_> hi guys
[07:01] <dutch> willing to try anything right now.. :(
[07:01] <dutch> thanks
[07:02] <strog_> i have a bluetooth stick and wanted to know how i can remote control my pc
[07:02] <strog_> how do i add that option
[07:02] <elite101> remote controll it from what device another pc?
[07:03] <elite101> or a handheld?
[07:03] <strog_> no cellphone
[07:03] <elite101> ohh not sure but i know how to do that with a psp lol
[07:03] <strog_> how is it done with handhelds?
[07:04] <elite101> u need to use VNC
[07:04] <neusonce> grrrrrr not working, but im tired and should go to bed  thank fo youre help guys  if i have issues tomorrow will talk again
[07:04] <elite101> krfb desktop sharing
[07:05] <strog_> krfb?
[07:05] <michael-3142> Hello all
[07:05] <elite101> yes its in interent tab on the Kmenu
[07:06] <|Zero|H|I|T|> anybody?
[07:06] <elite101> u make a network connection and the device running the VNC will connect to it alothou u mean with bluetooth i know nothing about that so this wont help u sorry
[07:07] <elite101> strog_, what do u want the cellphone to do exactly?
[07:07] <michael-3142> Are there any Kpilot users online today,  I am have some problems configuring mine with USB
[07:07] <elite101> controll the pc?
[07:07] <strog_> to control the mouse and if possible that i can use my cellphone as a remotecontrol for amarok
[07:08] <elite101> ookay u need to use remote desktop connection well im not sure on how bluetooth works its kinda like wireless? but i think the cellphone needs the same app? no..
[07:09] <strog_> let me check a minute
[07:09] <elite101> u might need to use Remote Desktop connection and make a VNC connection and then connect the cell to the VNC to computer VIA Bluetooth
[07:10] <elite101> if thats what u want? not sure almost the same princaple to the psp but u need a wireless card too hook up the psp and router but since its bluetooth i dont know how that works?
[07:11] <elite101> !krdc
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krdc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <strog_> elite101: i have a usb bluetooth and my cellphone has 1 also
[07:11] <elite101> !Krdc
[07:11] <strog_> but when i go to sdp://
[07:11] <strog_> i can see my cellphone and it's services
[07:11] <elite101> so does it have an app to controll the computer where did u hear this from?
[07:11] <elite101> okay
[07:12] <elite101> well u need to make a VNC connection to your computer online and then connect the phone to that network
[07:12] <strog_> but the problem is that i dont have the mouse control service installed
[07:13] <elite101> not sure how to make one on kubuntu? i know on windows thou i know a site with a tutorial
[07:13] <strog_> k
[07:14] <elite101> for what/
[07:14] <elite101> ?
[07:14] <elite101> on your cell phone?
[07:16] <elite101> strog_, here is a link that should make things a little clearer althou i will find one for kubuntu http://www.bluetoothshareware.com/bluetooth_remote_control.asp
[07:17] <|Zero|H|I|T|> anyone that can help with black screen after installing NVIDIA DRIVERS???
[07:17] <oellinux> hello people
[07:17] <oellinux> can someone give me a hand with streaming problems
[07:17] <elite101> strog_, what kind of phone are u using sony erricson? pda?
[07:18] <oellinux> |Zero|H|I|T|, what error do u get if u write "startx" from a console?
[07:19] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i didnt enter console
[07:19] <oellinux> so do it
[07:19] <oellinux> ctrl - alt - f1
[07:19] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i will do it but
[07:19] <|Zero|H|I|T|> when loading
[07:19] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i get a black screen and i can see what i type
[07:19] <elite101> ahh here u go strong this wil be alot better for you http://tuxmobil.org/bluetooth_cell_apps.html
[07:22] <Chanshe> hi alle
[07:22] <Chanshe> habe mal nee frage wegen wine
[07:22] <Chanshe> habe wine per adept installiert..
[07:22] <pag> !de | Chanshe
[07:22] <ubotu> Chanshe: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:22] <Chanshe> nur wie installiere ich nun anwendungen?
[07:22] <Chanshe> #ahh k danke
[07:24] <elite101> is kubuntu 7.04 only in DVD format? can u fit the installer on a normal cd?
[07:25] <sfire> elite101: I believe there is a CD version
[07:25] <sfire> 40mb for the net install cd (from what I've heard)
[07:25] <sfire> me personally I just "borrow" a dvd from a newer machine to install
[07:27] <elite101> sfire, why is it in DVD formatt? the cd version must not have livecd enabled on it then
[07:27] <elite101> because the installer is prob small and the livedvd is prob like 3gb or somethinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng
[07:27] <elite101> sorry the button lagged
[07:28] <pag> elite101, http://mirror.gregstar.at/ubuntu/kubuntu/feisty/ <- CD-torrents (can also be downloaded directly, but always prefer torrent :)
[07:31] <Negonicrac> hey all
[07:31] <NickPresta> hey
[07:32] <araizen> hi all
[07:32] <araizen> can anyone tell me how i can set things up so i can switch keyboard layouts with a keyboard shortcut?
[07:34] <sep1318> araizen: k menu>system settings>regional&language
[07:34] <araizen> sep1318: yes i am aware of that
[07:34] <araizen> but i don't see what i can set in there
[07:35] <sep1318> araizen: do you see the keyboard layout tab on the side?
[07:35] <araizen> you mean on the task bar?
[07:35] <araizen> yes
[07:36] <sep1318> araizen: it should have three tabs: layout, sitching options, xkb options.
[07:36] <araizen> sep1318: yes, i have that
[07:37] <sep1318> just making sure we're in the same place :)
[07:38] <sep1318> araizen: what's your switching policy set to under switching options?
[07:38] <araizen> global
[07:38] <sep1318> and you have multiple layouts available, right?
[07:39] <araizen> yes
[07:39] <araizen> i have multiple layouts and they work fine
[07:39] <sep1318> under active layouts in the layout tab?
[07:39] <araizen> but i have to cluck on the flag to change
[07:39] <araizen> and i want to use a keyboard shortcut
[07:39] <araizen> yes, under active layouts there are two layouts
[07:39] <sep1318> ttry ctrl+alt_k
[07:39] <sep1318> try*
[07:40] <sep1318> ok.
[07:40] <araizen> what is alt_k?
[07:40] <araizen> alt+k?
[07:40] <sep1318> ctrl+alt+k is the default,
[07:40] <sep1318> yeah
[07:40] <sep1318> me and my typos :-\
[07:41] <araizen> no that doesn't do anything
[07:41] <araizen> but i've done this before, i remember, in kde
[07:41] <draik> Here is my empty victory - I installed winxp in Kubuntu
[07:41] <draik> Is there a way to change the HDD space to the VMware Workstation?
[07:41] <araizen> and my shortcut has to be something like ctl+alt+1, because one of my layouts is not a latin alphabet
[07:41] <michael-3142> Is there anyone that can assist me in getting kpilot working?
[07:42] <sep1318> hmmm.... araizen, i'm honestly stumped, cuz the default worked for me. but then again, im switching between english and dvorak.
[07:43] <araizen> there's a place you can change all those keyboard shortcuts, no?
[07:43] <araizen> do you know where it?
[07:44] <ardchoille> araizen: kcontrol Region & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:44] <sep1318> araizen: good suggestion. lemme find it for a sec :)
[07:45] <sep1318> araizen: actually, it's under keyboard & mouse
[07:45] <ardchoille> sep1318: keyboard & mouse? where is that?
[07:45] <sep1318> araizen: should be an option at the bottom for keyboard layout switching
[07:47] <araizen> there's no such option under switching options in regional & language
[07:47] <robin> whats new
[07:47] <sep1318> ardchoille: in system settings/kcontrol main menu. computer administration heading.
[07:47] <sep1318> araizen: right. you have to go back out to the overview and go in through keyboard and mouse
[07:48] <sep1318> ardchoille: i just realized that things are a bit reorganized depending on whether your in system settings or the settings menu or w/e.
[07:48] <sep1318> araizen: you see it?
[07:49] <araizen> sep1318: yes i've got it
[07:49] <araizen> i set it to ctrl+1 and it's working
[07:49] <araizen> thanks a lot
[07:49] <ardchoille> sep1318: Yes, I noticed that too. I don't use system settings due to kcontrol being better and I'm used to it.
[07:49] <robin> I have a new hp computer, nvidia chipset and 8800gts, when I tried to start up kubuntu off the cd the monitor goes black, any idea's? I tried the safe video mode to still no go
[07:49] <sep1318> araizen: sweet
[07:50] <sep1318> ardchoille: i'm on board with you on that one.
[07:51] <intelikey> and then there were 356
[07:52] <robin> must not be a work around if no one answer, maybe they will correct this in next kubuntu release and i can use it then thx anyway
[07:52] <intelikey> robin what issue ?
[07:52] <robin>  I have a new hp computer, nvidia chipset and 8800gts, when I tried to start up kubuntu off the cd the monitor goes black, any idea's? I tried the safe video mode to still no go
[07:53] <Biovore> robin: try the alternate install cd
[07:53] <dr_willis> Looking at the HP L7680 for my next printer. ANyone have any experience with it and Linux?
[07:53] <intelikey> could reconfig xorg to use vesa
  whats differant on alternate cd?
[07:54] <intelikey> text mode installer
[07:54] <Biovore> robin: you can do a text mode install then fix it later..
[07:54] <dr_willis> and a few options it lets you set
[07:54] <intelikey> can even do a server install     i think
[07:54] <robin> will i still have a gui or just command line
[07:54] <Biovore> yup
[07:54] <intelikey> isn't that on the alternate
[07:55] <Biovore> robin: well if you install and it can't get the graphics to work at start, you probably be in a command line interface for a bit.
[07:55] <robin> is there a 64 byte alternate cd?
[07:55] <Biovore> yes
[07:55] <robin> k will try that
[07:56] <intelikey> robin i would try reconfiguring the liveCD for vesa and see if that works.  then at least you know you can get a gui working.
[07:56] <robin> so you think its my 8800gts that is the issue with the screen going black?
[07:56] <dr_willis> Theres no real reason to use the 64bit disrto
[07:56] <dr_willis> 8800 does need the newest nvidia drivers I hear on some setups.
[07:56] <dr_willis> those are not in the repos yet.
[07:56] <StErGi0s> hello.im clicking on vpn connections from KnetworkManager but nothing opens..what should i do?
[07:57] <lontra> anyone know how i would edit kmilo to work properly with my multimedia keys?
[07:57] <intelikey> robin i think that the nv driver is too old to work correctly with that card robin yes
[07:57] <robin> so the next kunbutu release should work ok you guys think?
[07:58] <dr_willis> this one CAN work.. if you install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site. (i hear)
[07:58] <Biovore> well its still beta atm.. (not recommended)
[07:58] <dr_willis> i bet the ubuntu forums mention this
[07:58] <dr_willis> may be some unofficial repos/sites with thepackages also.
[07:58] <intelikey> i bet
[07:58] <Biovore> yeah.. the 8800gtx needs the lastest drivers from nvidia..
[07:58] <intelikey> you bet
[07:58] <robin> so its a known issue with 8800?
[07:58] <Biovore> but they do work..
[07:59] <Biovore> well nvidia lagged behind with the support for it..
[07:59] <StErGi0s> im clicking on vpn connections from KnetworkManager but nothing opens..what should i do?
[07:59] <Biovore> The graphical installer uses an opensource driver some guy made to get video, but I think that one break on the newer nvidia cards.
[08:00] <Biovore> StErGi0s: you openVPN running?
[08:00] <Biovore> (have()
[08:00] <StErGi0s> Biovore: i dont think so..
[08:00] <robin> ok I wil ltry the work arounds you guys talked about later today thx
[08:00] <intelikey> monkey C
[08:00] <StErGi0s> not sure though
[08:00] <dr_willis> you can force the graphical installer to use the vesa driver some how. i recall..
[08:00] <dr_willis> but never done it.
[08:01] <StErGi0s> no...its not on running processes
[08:02] <robin> later thanks again
[08:02] <michael-3142> I can not locate /dev/ttyusb in kubuntu.  do they use something else?
[08:02] <elite101> does nvidia support linux?
[08:03] <intelikey> michael-3142 prolly    and they use  udev which only makes the device nodes that you "access"
[08:03] <intelikey> elite101 yes and no.
[08:03] <intelikey> they offer drivers   but that don't open source
[08:03] <StErGi0s> i need to make a vpn connection anyone can help?vpn connections does not work for some reason
[08:03] <michael-3142> intelikey: I am trying to configure kpilot with a palm t/x
[08:04] <draik> intelikey: I finally got the VMware workstation to work. But no SD or Floppy :(
[08:04] <draik> elite101: Backwards. Does Linux support nVidia. I have a GeForce FX 5700LE. No issues here. Beryl works as well as Compiz
[08:05] <michael-3142> intelikey: what can I do to resolve this problem
[08:05] <dr_willis> elite101,  they say they do.. but they could do MUCHbetter...
[08:05] <intelikey> michael-3142 i have no idea.   i don't have any palm*  nor even usb*
[08:05] <dr_willis> same with ati, and about every OTHER video card maker out there
[08:06] <ERIK_LIMA> !streaming
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about streaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <jussi01> ERIK_LIMA: what do you  need to know about streaming?
[08:06] <ERIK_LIMA> !stream
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <ERIK_LIMA> I can't watch video streamings on VLC :(
[08:07] <jussi01> ERIK_LIMA: streaming from where?
[08:07] <ERIK_LIMA> Just today when I wanted to watch Mid-Ohio GP
[08:07] <michael-3142> Do I have to build a dev for use with USB in kubuntu, if so how do I do it?
[08:07] <ERIK_LIMA> From a sports channel, like ESPN
[08:07] <jussi01> !find mozilla vlc
[08:08] <draik> michael-3142: Shouldn't have to do anything
[08:08] <ubotu> Found: mozilla-firefox-locale-af, mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-bd, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-in (and 95 others)
[08:08] <michael-3142> draik: then how do I find out what dev the usb is on?
[08:08] <jussi01> !info mozilla-plugin-vlc
[08:08] <ubotu> mozilla-plugin-vlc: multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 148 kB
[08:09] <draik> Should come right up, What's your dev?
[08:09] <michael-3142> palm t/x
[08:09] <intelikey> michael-3142 seems like they use an odd mount on usb  something in /proc/usb  maybe...    but simple answer to your Q     lsusb
[08:09] <ERIK_LIMA> jussi01: My problem is that I connect to the streaming, but surrendly it's stops and I can't watch
[08:10] <jussi01> ERIK_LIMA: what sort of stream is it?
[08:10] <ERIK_LIMA> Wait a moment...
[08:10] <granddaddy> hi
[08:10] <michael-3142> I see a /proc/bus/usb
[08:10] <michael-3142> it that it
[08:11] <grant> hi
[08:11] <elite101_> man my internet sucks it keeps on disconnecting
[08:11] <ERIK_LIMA> jussi01: it's from here ---> mms://200.218.192.66/bandsports
[08:11] <intelikey> probably     did you run the command    lsusb         michael-3142 ?
[08:11] <grant> i have no clue what this is, i was just messing around with my computer and i found this
[08:12] <jussi01> !restricted
[08:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:12] <ERIK_LIMA> Open your VLC, copy this link and try opening. I tried, but after a few seconds, the streaming stops.
[08:12] <intelikey> michael-3142 oh. also check in konqueror   media:///
[08:12] <ERIK_LIMA> It's happening to me with another streaming
[08:12] <intelikey> something came up.  back later.
[08:13] <michael-3142> I see the kensington mouse listed there
[08:13] <jussi01> ERIK_LIMA: so you get picture?
[08:13] <ERIK_LIMA> Yes! I see the video.
[08:13] <caboose_1980> does anybody have rvb?
[08:13] <ERIK_LIMA> jussi01: Can you watch the streaming?
[08:14] <caboose_1980> im confused
[08:14] <jussi01> ERIK_LIMA: 1 sec
[08:15] <rrabbit74> michael-3142: check "/var/log /messages"
[08:15] <ERIK_LIMA> What codec I need to watch it without any problems?
[08:15] <michael-3142> no usb in media
[08:16] <jussi01> ERIK_LIMA: works here
[08:17] <jussi01> ERIK_LIMA: are you running compiz/beryl?
[08:17] <caboose_1980> sooo confused
[08:18] <draik> jussi01: I run Beryl. What gives with some java apps?
[08:18] <ERIK_LIMA> No. I can't run compiz/beryl due to my bad ATI Radeon 9250
[08:18] <ERIK_LIMA> jussi01: So... what I need to solve my problem?
[08:18] <jussi01> ERIK_LIMA: patience, im thinking....
[08:19] <jussi01> draik, Im not sure, perhaps askin #ubuntu-effects
[08:21] <jussi01> ERIK_LIMA: have youtried in mplayer?
[08:21] <jussi01> gah
[08:21] <jussi01> h eft
[08:21] <caboose_1980> what is this?
[08:21] <caboose_1980> lol
[08:23] <michael-3142> messages said it created a new device usbfs
[08:24] <ilik> ,   .
[08:25] <ardchoille> !ru
[08:25] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:26] <elite101> hey what is the line for java again?
[08:26] <zondo> holas
[08:26] <dr_willis> !java
[08:26] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:26] <michael-3142> still no luck
[08:28] <elite101> no the line like sudo apt jet java-srj6?
[08:29] <michael-3142> what do I do with the info from lsusb?
[08:39] <michael-3142> It says in lsusb that the palm is on Bus 001 device 041 id 0830 0061 Palm inc
[08:39] <michael-3142> what do I do not with this info
[08:49] <johan> anyone kan help me with something?
[08:50] <n8k99> johan what is it
[08:51] <johan> look...i`ve just installed kubuntu...this is the second time...and at SYSTEM  - AaDEPT (Package Manager)...evreything shows me that is installed...
[08:52] <n8k99> yes? it should also show you packages which are not installed
[08:52] <michael-3142> Still trying to configure kpilot for usb on kubuntu. Please help
[08:52] <n8k99> and that can be installed
[08:52] <johan> i know that...but evrything shows me INSTALLED
[08:52] <johan> :|
[08:52] <n8k99> everything?
[08:52] <johan> yes
[08:53] <n8k99> hmm...
[08:53] <johan> i was thinking at a bug...but...
[08:53] <n8k99> which version of kubuntu are you using?
[08:53] <johan> 6.06
[08:53] <johan> lts
[08:54] <rrabbit74> michael-3142: could it be "/dev/ttyUSB0" ?
[08:54] <michael-3142> I have no /dev/ttyusb* at all, they are in /proc/bus/usb
[08:55] <michael-3142> lsusb says that the palm is on bus 001 device 46
[08:55] <n8k99> johan !repos
[08:55] <johan> .
[08:55] <michael-3142> but I do not know what to do with that info
[08:55] <n8k99> !repos
[08:55] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:56] <lothar> which packages do I need to rip audio cds in k3b to mp3?
[08:56] <n8k99> look and see if you have all your repositiories open johan
[08:56] <johan> !repos
[08:56] <johan> oke
[08:56] <n8k99> !repo
[08:56] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:02] <rrabbit74> michael-3142: "/dev/ttyUSB*" is a serial port it should be listed in dir "/dev"
[09:03] <michael-3142> rrabbit74: well I have not /dev/ttyUSB* in that directory.
[09:05] <cherva> anyone installed hydra on kubuntu 7.04 ? ( http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/THC-Hydra-Download-10279.html ) because i want to test my network byt here is what i get when i try to compile it http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d661d39d5 pls help me
[09:08] <zibrah3ed> install its dependencies\
[09:08] <michael-3142> Does anyone know how to configure a palm with kpilot in kubuntu,  Please haelp
[09:09] <michael-3142> help
[09:10] <jhutchins> michael-3142: I would expect that kpilot would have documentation.
[09:11] <michael-3142> kpilot assumes that every thing is in the /dev directory, and in kubuntu it is not
[09:11] <dr_willis> its possible the /dev/ entrys have moved
[09:11] <dr_willis>  theres been a lot of changes to them in the past few years.
[09:12] <michael-3142> dr_willis: I find them in the /proc/bus/usb directory but I still can not get them to sync
[09:12] <dr_willis> the /proc/ stuff is most lilkely NOT what you are looking for.
[09:12] <dr_willis> what are you looking for anyway?
[09:12] <michael-3142> dr_willis: it is not in media either
[09:13] <dr_willis> media is just where filesystems get mounted.
[09:13] <dr_willis> if it was showing up as a usb hard drive. you could mount it to /media
[09:13] <michael-3142> dr_willis: lsusb says it is on bus 001
[09:14] <enzo> !beryl
[09:14] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:14] <dr_willis> so you have a usb palm pilot?
[09:14] <michael-3142> dr_willis: yes and it is driving me crazy
[09:14] <dr_willis> Been ages since ive messed with usb serial devices.
[09:14] <dr_willis> May need to be some module you got to load.
[09:15] <michael-3142> dr_willis: how do I find that out and load it if necessary
[09:15] <Guilty_as_Sin> I know theres an irc client that will open separate rooms in separate windows, just not sure which one..  any help?
[09:16] <Guilty_as_Sin> been using default so long I just don't don't know
[09:17] <dr_willis> http://www.snowfrog.net/2006/08/11/palm-pilot-on-ubuntu/
[09:17] <dr_willis> michael-3142,  by googling like i just did. :) heh check the tips at that page.
[09:18] <bldzr> Guilty_as_Sin: There's a bunch of those
[09:19] <michael-3142> dr_willis: that is nice but on this system /dev/ttyusb0 and /dev/ttyusb1 do not exist
[09:19] <dr_willis> thats where the modules are needed then.
[09:19] <bldzr> irssi, weechat, xchat (gui client), etc :)
[09:19] <dr_willis> if the proper module gets loaded - it shoudl create those /dev/entries
[09:19] <dr_willis> $ lsmod | grep visor
[09:20] <dr_willis> that site is checking the loaded modules there. with that command.
[09:21] <dr_willis> i dont have one to test. (well not here at least) but sudo modprobe visor  MIGHT get them  made
[09:29] <elite101> hey i need help on using aircrack i downloaded it and run it in terminal but i dont know how to execute commands? it says usage; aircrack [options]  <.cap / .ivs file(s) > i think i use that line to use the command?
[09:29] <elite101> listed in 2 option sections
[09:30] <granddaddy> hey
[09:30] <elite101> any one use aircrack before?
[09:31] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> granddaddy: hi
[09:31] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> elite101: I haven't. Sorry.
[09:32] <Schuenemann> Is it possible to open (yuck) M$ Access files?
[09:32] <elite101> shoot
[09:32] <jomama> lol
[09:33] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Schuenemann: Other than with MS Access, I don't think there is. At least, not with Kexi or OOoBase. Might want to search Google.
[09:33] <Schuenemann> WhtWolfTeraDyne, is access free?
[09:33] <elite101> wait never mind what i said up there i missed another program for aircrack mybad :)
[09:34] <renegade> hallo
[09:34] <jomama> sap nukka
[09:35] <titanix88> hello
[09:35] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Schuenemann: Nope. It's Microsoft, what do you expect?
[09:35] <Schuenemann> heh
[09:36] <Schuenemann> free as in price, of course
[09:36] <jomama> 
[09:36] <renegade> &%
[09:37] <elite101> what is the line to get java? sudo apt get...?
[09:37] <jomama> HT
[09:38] <Schuenemann> elite101, sun-java6-jdk
[09:38] <Schuenemann> oops
[09:38] <Schuenemann> sorry
[09:38] <Schuenemann> don't do that
[09:38] <renegade> oder jre
[09:38] <Schuenemann> elite101, sun-java6-jre (unless you want the jdk)
[09:39] <elite101> thanx
[09:39] <Schuenemann> you can use apt-cache search <keyword> to look for a package
[09:39] <jomama> TTT
[09:39] <fuzzyegui> Hi guys, i have kubuntu with the realtime kernel 2.6.20.16 installed but i have no audio output! can anyone help me?
[09:40] <renegade> alsa
[09:40] <fuzzyegui> I've tried reinstalling alsa, but no luck.
[09:41] <elite101> whats the whole line? sudo apt get installsun-java6-jre??
[09:41] <fuzzyegui> Is there any other setup i need to do to so i can have alsa output with the rt kernel?
[09:41] <Schuenemann> elite101, yes
[09:42] <elite101> yes what? i need the correct spelling
[09:42] <Schuenemann> sudo apt get install sun-java6-jre
[09:42] <Schuenemann> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[09:42] <fuzzyegui> I tried following a couple of how-to's for setting the alsa permissions but they won't go through.
[09:42] <elite101> okay
[09:44] <renegade> fuzzy your soundcard is working lspci ?
[09:44] <renegade> real module ?
[09:45] <renegade> spricht hier eigentlich jeman deutsch
[09:45] <fuzzyegui> Yes it is.
[09:45] <Schuenemann> !de | renegade
[09:45] <ubotu> renegade: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:45] <fuzzyegui> Lspci returns with the soundcard listed.
[09:45] <GrahamA> Hey
[09:45] <ubuntu> yo
[09:45] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hi
[09:46] <renegade> *g*
[09:47] <Schuenemann> WhtWolfTeraDyne, sorry for talking about MS again, but isn't even Access 97 free (price) ?
[09:47] <renegade> fuzzy is your card also in /proc/asound/cards
[09:48] <renegade> at first?
[09:48] <fuzzyegui> Sudo cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:48] <fuzzyegui>  0 [nForce2        ] : NFORCE - NVidia nForce2
[09:48] <fuzzyegui>                       NVidia nForce2 with ALC650F at 0xd4081000, irq 18
[09:48] <fuzzyegui>  1 [UART           ] : MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
[09:48] <fuzzyegui>                       MPU-401 UART at 0x330, irq 10
[09:49] <fuzzyegui> That's what it lists as.
[09:49] <Schuenemann> !paste | fuzzyegui
[09:49] <ubotu> fuzzyegui: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:49] <fuzzyegui> Did it flood? sorry.
[09:50] <fuzzyegui> But it does list in /proc/asound/cards.
[09:50] <renegade> hm
[09:50] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Schuenemann: I don't see anything about Access 97 being free.
[09:51] <fuzzyegui> Http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30813/
[09:51] <renegade> i have no idea
[09:52] <mitch_> hello
[09:52] <Schuenemann> WhtWolfTeraDyne, oh damn... thanks for telling me
[09:52] <fuzzyegui> It's been frustrating as heck i'll say.
[09:52] <Schuenemann> I need to open a .dat Access 97 file
[09:52] <Schuenemann> and edit
[09:53] <fuzzyegui> If you'd like i can post my lspci output as well.
[09:53] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Schuenemann: Kexi, as I just found out, does support Access files, but ".dat" files aren't listed as supported.
[09:53] <draik> How can I make vmware workstation connect to my Kubuntu system so that I can get the audio files in winxp (from vmware)
[09:54] <Schuenemann> WhtWolfTeraDyne, I tried opening, it said I don't have a driver for that
[09:54] <raylu> draik, what is the vm workstation running?
[09:54] <Schuenemann> A suitable driver for migration wasn't found
[09:55] <raylu> draik, i don't really understand your setup
[09:55] <draik> winxp
[09:55] <draik> I'm on Kubuntu
[09:55] <raylu> what is the vmware guest/host?
[09:55] <dr_willis> draik,  i just set up  samba and use the network neighborhood stuff to get stuff from one machine to another.. or use ssh and winscp
[09:55] <jacou> hello, I'm having a problem and I am wondering if someone would have an idea : kscreensaver locks my computer when I start it, and even though I type the right login/passwd, it doesn't go away
[09:55] <draik> I have vmware workstation running winxp
[09:55] <raylu> jacou, the password is case sensitive
[09:55] <raylu> what is the vmware guest/host?
[09:55] <Karti> draik: In VM ware you can set up shaerd folders with the host. Do you want me to talk you through it?
[09:55] <draik> I want winxp to read/access my Kubuntu desktop so that I can retrieve the audio files (want to upload some to my phone)
[09:56] <raylu> oh...i think he means he's running a winxp host and kubuntu guest
[09:56] <draik> Karti: If It will let me read the Kubuntu audio files in VMware's WinXP, then yes. Thank you
[09:56] <jacou> raylu: yes, but when I say I type it right, it mean I type right (Ctrl+Alt+F1 and I can can login no pb)
[09:56] <trovad0r> hi, i'm trying to restore grub after an XP install, i-ve booted into a ubuntu livecd, I-ve mounted the ubuntu partition and chrooted to it, but when i do 'grub-install /dev/hda' i get /dev/hda Not found... , can some1 help me?
[09:56] <Karti> draik: Its in the settings for the guest pc
[09:57] <dr_willis> draik,  easy way would be install ssh and use winscp to connect o the kubuntu box and transfer files. samba is a little bit harder to set up (but not much)
[09:57] <raylu> jacou, then you may be entering the wrong password
[09:57] <draik> Karti: How do I make the changes?
[09:57] <raylu> trovad0r, do you know the name of your hard drives?
[09:57] <draik> dr_willis: I want winxp to access the kubuntu audio files.
[09:58] <raylu> trovad0r, try ls /dev | grep da
[09:58] <Karti> draik: can yo uget to the settings for the guest pc?
[09:58] <draik> Guest pc being winxp?
[09:58] <draik> I'm on Kubuntu. WinXP is in VMware.
[09:59] <trovad0r> raylu: no, none appear
[09:59] <Schuenemann> WhtWolfTeraDyne, you know if Access 2003 can open and save the file as 97?
[09:59] <draik> Karti: I should be able to access any settings since this is all local on my home desktop
[09:59] <Karti> draik: Yes - This link shows you ther details http://www.vmware.com/support/ws4/doc/running_sharefold_ws.html
[09:59] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Schuenemann: Let me check. I have a copy of MSOffice on my desktop.
[10:00] <Schuenemann> WhtWolfTeraDyne, sorry, I don't want to bother you
[10:00] <Karti> draik: I use the WIndows version of Workstation, so its the same
[10:00] <draik> Karti: Thank you much. That seems like it will do what I need to do.
[10:01] <Karti> It just fakes a network folder, quite good really
[10:01] <Karti> draik: need to go now but that should help you
[10:01] <elite101> wher do i see my cd rom drive?
[10:01] <raylu> what is the equivalent of /p for linux?
[10:01] <elite101> in storage media?
[10:02] <draik> Thank you again Karti
[10:02] <trovad0r> raylu: i got it, it seems it can be done without doing chrooit
[10:02] <fuzzyegui> Http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30814/ this is my lspci output.
[10:03] <jacou> raylu: no, I would not come here if I had any doubt!
[10:03] <elite101> hey where is my cd-rom drive located?
[10:04] <raylu> elite101, is there a cd in there? it's /media
[10:04] <elite101> yes
[10:04] <Schuenemann> there should be a CD icon in your desktop
[10:04] <Schuenemann> when it's mounted
[10:05] <elite101> nothing i showing up?
[10:05] <elite101> i will try another disc
[10:06] <elite101> weird it reads the ubuntu disc fine
[10:06] <marcobenavid> hola
[10:06] <marcobenavid> hola
[10:06] <elite101> thn again this cd i was trying is a littel scracthed
[10:06] <marcobenavid> alguien habla espaol
[10:06] <Schuenemann> !es | marcobenavid
[10:06] <ubotu> marcobenavid: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:07] <michael-3142> dr_willis: what module do we need to load and how do you load a module?
[10:07] <marcobenavid> gracias
[10:07] <sstchur> What would I go to to get help with network-manager on Kubuntu?
[10:07] <marcobenavid> #ubuntu-es
[10:07] <sstchur> What channel I mean
[10:07] <marcobenavid> como me cambio de canal?
[10:08] <Schuenemann>  /join #kubuntu-es
[10:08] <raylu> sstchur, you could get help here
[10:08] <elite101> has anyone got ra2 working on kubuntu?  i have wine instaled
[10:08] <raylu> sstchur, are you using wireless?
[10:08] <raylu> elite101, red alert?
[10:08] <elite101> yeha
[10:08] <sstchur> raylu: trying to... at the moment, I'm cabled
[10:08] <raylu> sstchur, do you know your chipset? does iwconfig show your device?
[10:09] <sstchur> raylu: yes, it's an atheros chipset... I have successfully connected before.  Problem is, I eventually get disconnected and nothing will reconnect me except resetting my router
[10:09] <elite101> raylu: did u get it to work?
[10:09] <x_link> Hi
[10:09] <raylu> elite101, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=167
[10:09] <x_link> Just installed Kubuntu 7.04
[10:09] <x_link> Why does it ask me for password when I do sudo aptitude install vlc?
[10:09] <elite101> whats that for
[10:09] <sstchur> raylu: then, most recently, I can't get it to reconnect at all -- I read on a forum that NetworkManager .6.5 fixes the issue, so I tried compiling that for source, but I'm not having much luck
[10:10] <raylu> x_link, because installing is for all users, not just yourself
[10:10] <raylu> sstchur, does sudo dhclient [devicename]  not work for you?
[10:10] <x_link> raylu: Which password should I give then?
[10:10] <dr_willis> raylu,  logicval eh? :)
[10:10] <raylu> x_link, if you're in the sudoers file, your users password is fine
[10:10] <dr_willis> the first user you created  is the 'sudo user' - use his password
[10:10] <sstchur> raylu: no, it doesn't work... I've tried it on several occasions... spits out lots of information and then ultimately fails
[10:10] <dr_willis> unless of course you made others.
[10:10] <raylu> dr_willis, huh?
[10:11] <TeraDyne> his*
[10:11] <raylu> sstchur, does sudo iwconfig show the correct information? are you using wep or similar?
[10:11] <dr_willis> raylu,  all these window users at work have such a hard time understanding that 'systm wide stuff' has to be done as root.. :)
[10:11] <Schuenemann> TeraDyne, don't bother, I'll download Access and try it
[10:11] <Schuenemann> thanks
[10:11] <x_link> raylu: OKej.
[10:11] <dr_willis> Its so hard Unteaching bad windows habbits.
[10:11] <sstchur> raylu: using WPA/TKIP, iwconfig shows: ath0 IEEE 802.11g, etc...
[10:11] <x_link> raylu: Is there no Kedit or something in Kubuntu?
[10:11] <dr_willis> kate is the normal editor i think
[10:11] <sstchur> x_link: what about Kate?
[10:12] <dr_willis> you can install kedit if ya want
[10:12] <x_link> I want to use Kedit =)
[10:12] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann, I will bother. I need MS Office on this computer for my college work.
[10:12] <raylu> sstchur, i set my encryption information with iwconfig; i'm not sure how you would do it in the k gui though
[10:12] <Schuenemann> TeraDyne, alright, but it wasn't me :-)
[10:12] <raylu> kedit is lame. nano owns k* =\
[10:12] <dr_willis> I sort of perfer 'fte' :)
[10:12] <dr_willis> but im odd...
[10:12] <sstchur> raylu: KNetworkmanager has a place for me to specify WPA... that doesn't seem to be a problem I don't think -- do you think that's the issue? Encryption?
[10:12] <StoneNewt> I just use vi
[10:12] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:12] <StoneNewt> and lo x_link
[10:12] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:13] <dr_willis> i use vi so much, i hit :wq in other editors too much by mistake. :)
[10:13] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann, I have a suspision as to who actually removed it. And he's going to be missing a few pokemon off of his gamepack next time he trys to play it.
[10:13] <raylu> lol...
[10:13] <Schuenemann> ugh... pokemon
[10:13] <x_link> StoneNewt: Hi mate! =)
[10:13] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:13] <NickPresta> dr_willis, I do that in Kate all the time ;)
[10:13] <dr_willis> 'a few pokemon shy of a full deck'
[10:13] <dr_willis> :)
[10:13] <TeraDyne> XD
[10:13] <raylu> sstchur, i assume that dhclient is just telling you about it querying for dhcp?
[10:13] <StoneNewt> dr_willis: yeah ammusing in installs when a config file doesn't work and you go to a line and see :wq in the middle of it
[10:13] <Schuenemann> TeraDyne, who is 'he'? Father, brother, son?
[10:13] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:14] <fuzzyegui> Looks like i'm going to have to reinstall again... damn.
[10:14] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann, a close friend of mine.
[10:14] <x_link> StoneNewt: When did you start using Linux?
[10:14] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:14] <StoneNewt> erm '98
[10:14] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:14] <sstchur> raylu: I think so... I'm not really sure... it does its thing for a while and then says something about no available leases or something like that
[10:14] <Schuenemann> hmm
[10:14] <raylu> ...
[10:14] <raylu> sstchur, well, if sudo iwconfig isn't showing any encryption information...
[10:15] <StoneNewt> nBSD from '95 iirc
[10:15] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:15] <raylu> lol
[10:15] <Schuenemann> TeraDyne, darn it, they removed the download option
[10:15] <raylu> but hydrairc doesn't have scripting like xchat does :D
[10:15] <StoneNewt> Hyrda is nice
[10:15] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:15] <sstchur> raylu: Ah... well, sorry.... I just told you what it should right now, but I'm cabled right now
[10:15] <sstchur> raylu: It does generally show encryption when I'm trying to use wireless
[10:16] <raylu> sstchur, you might want to have a poke at /etc/network/interfaces
[10:16] <sstchur> raylu: maybe I should join this channel on another computer, so I can troubleshoot this one at the same time
[10:16] <raylu> sstchur, it shouldn't make a difference. and i'm mostly out of ideas
[10:17] <sstchur> raylu: ok... well actually what I came for, was help in compiling networkmanger .6.5 from source (b/c I've read that others who've had this problem solve it that way)
[10:17] <raylu> oh
[10:17] <Schuenemann> I'll have to go to the university in order to record it... sigh
[10:18] <raylu> what do "cd -L" and "cd -P" do?
[10:18] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann, I don't see any way to save to Access 97, and all I can find in the *cough* help docs is on "converting" the files to Access 2000 or Access 2003 form.
[10:19] <sstchur> raylu: when I try to run ./configure, it fails saying "checking for DBUS... configure: error: Package requirements (dbus-glib-1 >= 0.60) were not met:"
[10:19] <Schuenemann> damn... MS doesn't know the meaning of backcompatibility
[10:19] <raylu> sstchur, so...install that :P
[10:19] <elite101> is there a ubuntu audio channel?
[10:19] <TeraDyne> Wait.. I think I may have found something.
[10:19] <TeraDyne> !pastebin
[10:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:20] <Schuenemann> TeraDyne, do you have it installed?
[10:20] <sstchur> raylu: well... I was hoping to just do something like sudo apt-get install dbud-glib-1, but it doesn't not appear to exist... ??
[10:20] <raylu> sstchur, "aptitude search dbus-glib"
[10:20] <raylu> or apt-get, if you prefer that
[10:20] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann, yeah.
[10:20] <Schuenemann> that's bad =(
[10:21] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: ?
[10:21] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30816/
[10:21] <Schuenemann> you're testing in the "SW" itself and realizing it's not possible
[10:22] <fuzzyegui> Elite101> there's the ubuntustudio channel...
[10:22] <TeraDyne> That should help in opening Access 97 files in Office 2003
[10:22] <Schuenemann> is there any difference from access only?
[10:22] <Schuenemann> I don't have office
[10:22] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann, there shouldn't be
[10:23] <Schuenemann> so, I just have to open without converting
[10:23] <Schuenemann> thanks, brother
[10:24] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann, no problem.
[10:24] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:25] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> aldcor: ?
[10:25] <raylu> he's been at it for a while; just ignore him
[10:25] <Schuenemann> lol
[10:26] <x_link> How can I make a shortcut to Kcontrol?
[10:26] <x_link> I don't want to use System Settings
[10:26] <Schuenemann> right-click the desktop and link to application
[10:26] <sstchur> raylu: searching does turn up some things regarding dbus-glib, but apparently, I have the latest version of all of it, so I'm confused
[10:26] <Schuenemann> if you want to place it at the desktop
[10:26] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> x_link: Right click in the K Menu and select "edit menu
[10:26] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> "
[10:26] <x_link> I don't have Edit Menu
[10:26] <raylu> sstchur, er...those are a list of packages
[10:26] <x_link> Not in my K Menu
[10:27] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> err... Edit item
[10:27] <x_link> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Where should that be, in my K Menu?
[10:27] <raylu> sstchur, in aptitude, if there's an i on the left, that means it's installed
[10:27] <raylu> x_link, right-click
[10:27] <x_link> Ohh
[10:27] <x_link> Sorry =)
[10:27] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Actually, you can right-click on the k menu icon and select "menu editor"
[10:27] <x_link> I'm new with Kubuntu, just intalled it =)
[10:27] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:28] <x_link> raylu: There I see CD-Unit, Harddrive etc.
[10:28] <raylu> huh?
[10:28] <sstchur> raylu: ok, so what I have installed is libdbus-glib-1-2, but libdbus-glib-1-dev has a "p", does it mean I should install that?
[10:28] <raylu> x_link, where do you want the shortcut to kcontrol to be?
[10:28] <x_link> raylu: I right click ---> Edit Item
[10:28] <x_link> raylu: On my desktop
[10:29] <raylu> sstchur, generally, when you're missing a dep to compile something, you need the -dev package
[10:29] <raylu> sstchur, so...yes, go for it
[10:29] <sstchur> i'll give it shot, thanks
[10:29] <raylu> x_link, oh, in that case, right-click on the desktop and make a new shortcut that way
[10:29] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:30] <x_link> raylu: Right click -> Create New --> Link To Application?
[10:30] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:31] <raylu> x_link, yes
[10:31] <raylu> x_link, i think...
[10:31] <x_link> ok
[10:31] <zelezni> hello
[10:31] <x_link> And what's the link to Kcontrol?
[10:33] <raylu> x_link, just type kcontrol
[10:33] <zelezni> finally somehow I installed ati video driver, but it gives me wrong resoluton. if i change something i finish with black monitor saying it cannot handle that screen resolution. in which file this settings are, so i can check them out?
[10:34] <elite101> how do i install java in terminal
[10:34] <x_link> raylu: I did, doesn't work.
[10:35] <x_link> elite101: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre and sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[10:36] <raylu> er...java6
[10:38] <elite101> thanxs
[10:45] <michael-3142> lsmod
[10:51] <malik__> hi
[10:52] <raylu> !hi
[10:52] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:52] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hi
[10:52] <malik__> i have accidently misconfigured my kubuntu isntalltoin
[10:52] <malik__> i have messed with my dual monitor settings and now i cant
[10:52] <x_link> Now I need to install the nvidia driver.
[10:53] <x_link> Can I just install the driver from www.nvidia.com?
[10:53] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !nvidia | x_link
[10:53] <ubotu> x_link: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:53] <malik__> change the resolution of dispaly
[10:53] <x_link> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Thanks! =)
[10:53] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> x_link: no problem.
[10:54] <x_link> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Just not used to Kubuntu yet. Have been using Debian for a while.
[10:54] <x_link> + I'm pretty new with Linux.
[10:54] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:54] <x_link> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Guess you just have to be patience with ,e
[10:54] <x_link> Or how you spell it =)
[10:54] <zelezni> hi! i'll try once again:
[10:55] <malik__> anyone please help me how can i reconfigure my Xserver
[10:55] <zelezni> after enabling restricted ati video driver and rebooting, i get black screen saying id does not support that video mode. what should i do?
[10:56] <malik__> i have nvidia geoforce and dual monitors
[10:56] <raylu> !nvidia | malik__
[10:56] <ubotu> malik__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:56] <malik__> every thing is too large on the screen i can hardly see any type what i am writing
[10:59] <zelezni> anybody please: need help about "video mode not supported"
[11:05] <angasule> !joystick
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joystick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <angasule> how do I set up a joystick? I can't find anything related to that in Settings
[11:05] <raylu> xorg, I believe
[11:06] <raylu> !joystick
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joystick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <raylu> !xorg.conf
[11:06] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:07] <angasule> raylu: you mean they /removed/ the joystick setup screen? there used to be one somewhere, that didn't work too well
[11:07] <raylu> er...i have no idea
[11:07] <raylu> !find joystick
[11:07] <ubotu> Found: joystick, xserver-xorg-input-joystick
[11:07] <angasule> ah, found it in "keyboard and mouse"
[11:07] <raylu> oh, you mean the control pannel appllet =\
[11:07] <raylu> *applet
[11:08] <angasule> and it's still broken \o/ wooo
[11:08] <angasule> I don't know why I bother to report such things
[11:09] <angasule> *ubuntu's game friendliness is on par with slackware's
[11:09] <runlevelten> control panel?
[11:09] <runlevelten> wossat?
[11:10] <dr_willis> I got a joystick that actually is a Keyboard. :)
[11:10] <dr_willis> ps2 port even
[11:10] <angasule> I fear I'll have to manually modify /dev
[11:11] <dr_willis> for some older games i had to make a link in /dev/ to point to the right joystick device
[11:11] <angasule> is it so hard to support gameport joysticks? they have only been around for 20 years after all
[11:11] <dr_willis> gameport? gesh.. I wonder if i even have any pc's with those still.
[11:11] <angasule> (this particular joystick is 17 years old and worked with my 286)
[11:11] <dr_willis> Its possible the module needs to be loaded manually
[11:11] <angasule> dr_willis: they are trivial to support, though
[11:12] <angasule> just have a button somewhere that says "I have an old style joystick"
[11:12] <jhutchins> Don't most games have internal drivers for the gameport?
[11:12] <dr_willis> thats your definiton of 'support' ?
[11:12] <dr_willis> why not 10000000000 other buttons for the 100000000+ other old things out there. :)
[11:12] <jhutchins> Do you want it to work like a mouse or something?
[11:12] <angasule> no, I want the friggin' joystick to show up
[11:13] <dr_willis> and what module does the joystick use?
[11:13] <jhutchins> angasule: show up where/
[11:13] <jhutchins> ?
[11:13] <angasule> if you go to Settings->Keyboard&mouse (brilliant, really) you can see the joystick set up
[11:13] <runlevelten> angasule: Wait until the "give me a million pounds" button is finished for KDE 4.
[11:13] <dr_willis> Plug and Play tetection of some of that old hardware is the stumbling point.  You may have to manually load the proper module.
[11:13] <angasule> it says there is no joystick, and asks where a joystick might be
[11:14] <angasule> dr_willis: that's the wrong approach, one should never have to manually load a module for something as trivial as the standard gameport
[11:14] <jhutchins> Presuming the joystick hasn't died...
[11:14] <jhutchins> Uh...
[11:14] <angasule> jhutchins: if an old style joystick dies, it still 'works' :)
[11:15] <jhutchins> Archaic hardware seldom ever used.  Yeah, kid, manual load is gonna be part of the troubleshooting.  Back when joysticks were common _everything_ was manual load.
[11:15] <runlevelten> a joystick plugged into a game port isn't exactly an ethernet adapter...
[11:15] <dr_willis> angasule,  dosent matter what you think. IF the system can not 'auto detect' a bit of hardware.. thats how it has to be done.
[11:15] <angasule> each axis is just a 100k ohm potentiometer, and each button is just a button
[11:15] <jhutchins> (Heck, back then, everything was "patch & recompile the kernel".
[11:15] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  yep.
[11:15] <angasule> dr_willis: not really, you can try to detect USB joysticks, if none are found, then ask "do you have a gameport joystick?"
[11:15] <dope> is there a way i can have it so a user doesn't have to use sudo for certain commands?
[11:15] <runlevelten> Quick! Pull the release, no support for RS232 lemon squeezers !!
[11:15] <jhutchins> You want point-and-click hardware management, I believe Microsoft has some products that do that.
[11:16] <dr_willis> angasule,  thats why USB is so much better. You said its a 'gameport' joystick. I belive the auto-detection of the gameport stuff has always been well.. not existing.
[11:16] <angasule> jhutchins: are you critisizing one of the few things that are done better on MS Windows? ;)
[11:16] <runlevelten> better my ass.#
[11:16] <jhutchins> angasule: I don't think it's done better.
[11:16] <runlevelten> *better my behind.
[11:16] <dr_willis> Ive had to reboot windows upon inserting a joystick. :)
[11:17] <angasule> dr_willis: given the extreme simplicity of the gameport hardware, it can't really be detected if there is a joystick plugged in or not (nothing connected == infinite resistance :) )
[11:17] <jhutchins> easier for idiots who don't want to learn anything != better.
[11:17] <dr_willis> angasule,  you are assuming the gameport module is even loaded also.
[11:17] <runlevelten> There are whole swathes of thousands of common devices where you need to install a driver from the CD or the internet with windows
[11:17] <angasule> dr_willis: see? it detected it fine! :P
[11:17] <jhutchins> angasule: What are you trying to configure the joystick to do?
[11:17] <runlevelten> but it's in the kernel on Linux.
[11:17] <angasule> dr_willis: it was automatically loaded, yes
[11:17] <angasule> jhutchins: show up?
[11:17] <dr_willis> angasule,  how about the 12+ different jousticks that can be in there. Ive had to manually load different modules for different gamepads in the past.
[11:17] <jhutchins> angasule: No, not show up.
[11:18] <jhutchins> angasule: It's right there on your desk, it's showed up.
[11:18] <jhutchins> angasule: What do you expect to do with it if you configure it in KDE?
[11:18] <dr_willis> of course if we spent all this time trouble shooting the gamepad.. and not ranting.. it would be fixed by now.
[11:18] <runlevelten> Linux has easily the best hardware support of any OS, I'm afraid.
[11:18] <angasule> jhutchins: check if the axes are working correctly, test buttons
[11:18] <jhutchins> runlevelten: Well, lots of holes for special binary drivers, but that happens in windows too.
[11:18] <angasule> jhutchins: a /dev/js0 entry is generally useful unless you run games as root, too, I guess...
[11:18] <runlevelten> The fact you can overlook downloading drivers or finding CDs for an OS that has *NO* hardware support for your device, doesn't mean it has seamless hardware support.
[11:19] <jhutchins> angasule: You'll need to find a joystick test program then.
[11:19] <angasule> have to go do tech support
[11:19] <jhutchins> angasule: Find some game that uses it, see if it loads it.
[11:19] <dr_willis> of coruse if dmesg dosent show it being detected.. well.. its not detected..
[11:20] <jhutchins> I have a gameport on my soundblaster - at least I'm pretty sure I do - but I don't have anything in the control panel for it.
[11:21] <angasule> jhutchins: go to Settings->keyboard and mouse->joystick, there is your test program
[11:21] <runlevelten> It's just odd to hear "Hardware support for x is better from this vendor, who writes no drivers for x and includes no drivers for x and provides no system of obtaining the drivers for x automatically"
[11:22] <angasule> or fire up kcontrol
[11:22] <runlevelten> *write
[11:22] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  i think i mayu have a sngle machine now - with the old style gameport. ;)
[11:22] <pouic> bonsoir
[11:23] <dr_willis> Aloha!
[11:23] <dr_willis> :)
[11:23] <runlevelten> Hi pouic
[11:23] <TeraDyne> !fr | pouic
[11:23] <ubotu> pouic: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:23] <dr_willis> /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/input/gameport has like 4 modules.. gee. i figured there would be more
[11:24] <elite101> he i am getting kubuntu 7.04 is that any good than what i have now kubuntu KDE 3.5 6.06.1
[11:24] <dr_willis> spaceorb.ko  -- Hay! i rember those.. Nevver did have one. :)
[11:24] <TeraDyne> elite101: I find Feisty to be MUCH better than Dapper.
[11:24] <dr_willis> TeraDyne,  i agree there.
[11:24] <elite101> how is it diffrent thou
[11:25] <elite101> im on dapper rite now
[11:25] <dr_willis> just updates mainly
[11:25] <runlevelten> elite101: It's getting alright.
[11:25] <dr_willis> i doubt if ya notice much different at all.
[11:25] <dr_willis> Upstart is a big change.. but i dint think many even notice the change.
[11:25] <elite101> okay thats sumthing i want to be really good
[11:25] <elite101> so go with 7.04
[11:25] <elite101> since mine is so outdated
[11:25] <dr_willis> elite101,  or wait a few mo for the next release. :)
[11:25] <dr_willis> or do both..
[11:25] <dr_willis> or take up golf!
[11:25] <dr_willis> :)
[11:26] <dr_willis> Bah! go play FreeCol!
[11:27] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> dr_willis: I'd rather be playing something along the lines of .hack//
[11:27] <dr_willis> I had one of the .hack games for the PS2
[11:28] <dr_willis> it was.. sort of lacking in ways. :)
[11:28] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> dr_willis: I have the first two .hack games, and the two .hack//G.U. games that are currently released.
[11:28] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I wonder if there's a .hack-style game for linux...
[11:29] <elite101> next release?
[11:29] <elite101> well all kubuntu'slook the same actually just wondering if anything has changed just the programs have been updated
[11:29] <elite101> and how come when i install something it doesnt show it on the kmenu do i have to manually add it or it just wontbe there?
[11:29] <elite101> was is dot hack about? is it like final fantsy games (god i hate thoes)
[11:29] <Lunar_Lamp> I've not played .hack, but Uplink is a kind of hacking game tha thas a linux version.
[11:29] <angasule> is there a games channel related to *ubuntu?
[11:30] <michael> Oh this different from gnome isnt it!
[11:30] <Dragnslcr> elite101- most programs will add an item to the KMenu, but some might not
[11:30] <NoobSauce> I've set some commands in my .xsession file, but when I log in, it does not execute the xsession file... Even xsession has execute permissions and it works if I execute it manually. Anyone have an idea what is wrong?
[11:30] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Lunar_Lamp: .hack is a single-player Psudo-MMORPG game. All of the other "players" are actually NPCs.
[11:31] <Lunar_Lamp> WhtWolfTeraDyne, oh, then that's nothing like uplink, lol, sorry
[11:31] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Lunar_Lamp: Heh. It's ok. I think I'll go looking, though...
[11:31] <elite101> who here plays halo2?
[11:31] <angasule> elite101: it's available on the PC?
[11:32] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> angasule: Only for Vista
[11:32] <angasule> I'm guessing it doesn't work on wine?
[11:32] <angasule> I didn't hear good things about it anyway, and halo 1 was repetitive enough
[11:34] <NoobSauce> anyone have an idea on the xsession thing? I've been messing around with it for several months on and off and I can't get it to work... I'm kind of a noob, so I'd *really* appreciate if someone could dig in.... ^_^
[11:35] <angasule> NoobSauce: what xsession thing?
[11:35] <wolferine> once I sudo mount -a, any changes I make in fstab should take effect?
[11:35] <wolferine> or is there a delay?
[11:35] <NoobSauce> angasule: I have some commands in my .xsession file. Even though the file has execute permissions, it won't run on startup. Is there something I'm missing?
[11:36] <NoobSauce> angasule: it works fine when I run it manually btw, so it's not a syntax thing (I don't think)
[11:36] <angasule> NoobSauce: depending on how you start X, different files are executed
[11:36] <angasule> NoobSauce: if you use KDE, place scripts in ~/.kde/Autostart
[11:37] <crossfire> can anyone help with nvidia driver trouble , attempting to get Beryl working after move to Ubuntu
[11:37] <wolferine> crossfire, what is the issue?
[11:37] <NoobSauce> angasule: I thought xsession was generic...? It used to work on a long-previous version of ubuntu... do you know what the equivalent location is for gnome?
[11:37] <angasule> NoobSauce: probably ~/.gnomerc or something like that, not sure
[11:38] <crossfire> nvidia drivers will not install ,or upgrade , when I attempt to run Beryl I get white screen , kinda stuck
[11:38] <runlevelten> gnome? what manner of thing be #gnome?
[11:38] <pjac-1_> hi ppl
[11:38] <wolferine> crossfire, one thing at a time
[11:38] <angasule> NoobSauce: and from a recent experience, I don't think it's generic,I wanted a startup script as well
[11:38] <crossfire> lol  OK
[11:38] <wolferine> crossfire, new install?
[11:38] <aldcor> aldcor
[11:38] <crossfire> yes ,
[11:38] <wolferine> crossfire, Feisty?
[11:38] <crossfire> gpu fx 5900
[11:39] <crossfire> yes fiesty
[11:39] <NoobSauce> angasule: ok, thanks. At least now I know what the problem (probably) is :)
[11:39] <NoobSauce> angasule++
[11:39] <wolferine> crossfire, is this a new install of Feistyt?
[11:39] <aldcor> aldcor
[11:39] <crossfire> yes , last night
[11:39] <crossfire> fresh outa the box
[11:39] <wolferine> did u turn on the restrictd drivers?
[11:40] <wolferine> crossfire, restricted drivers manager...
[11:40] <angasule> NoobSauce: np
[11:40] <crossfire> have not found a way to do so , I have verified that restricted driver instaled , but ...... cannot find system/administration per the  walk thru
[11:41] <crossfire> *note  running KDE
[11:41] <wolferine> crossfire, did you use the restricted drivers manager?
[11:41] <x_link> hrmmm
[11:41] <wolferine> ah
[11:41] <wolferine> not sure if its available in KDE
[11:41] <x_link> I open my konsole, choose transpatnt Konsole --> Configure Konsole ->> I set the transparency there
[11:41] <x_link> But when I open irssi it's not transparent anymore.
[11:41] <x_link> Why is it like this?
[11:41] <wolferine> crossfire, what guide are you using to install the nvidia drivers?
[11:42] <jhutchins> x_link: Because irssi is not a kde program.
[11:42] <x_link> But it worked in Debian so.
[11:42] <crossfire> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[11:42] <wolferine> once I sudo mount -a, any changes I make in fstab should take effect? or is there a delay?
[11:42] <jhutchins> x_link: KDE control panel only controls kde & kde applications.
[11:42] <x_link> I didn't do it from KDE Control Panel.
[11:42] <x_link> But ok.
[11:42] <x_link> I understand.
[11:43] <crossfire> akk might not be that page , but was in ubuntuforums ,
[11:43] <jhutchins> wolferine: You will need to unmount anything that was already mounted, or use the -o remount option (which I don't think works with -a)
[11:43] <runlevelten> No, irssi should still be transparent!
[11:43] <runlevelten> hehe
[11:43] <wolferine> crossfire, you might not want to just 'wing it' and find somewhere that instructions on what you need to do
[11:43] <runlevelten> jhutchins: Nothing to do with whether it's a kde program... he said konsole ;)
[11:43] <wolferine> so mount -o then mount -a ?
[11:43] <jhutchins> Oh - console - nothing to do with kde, check.  Duh.
[11:44] <crossfire> lol ...<sigh> thought thats what I was doing
[11:44] <runlevelten> I know what you mean :)
[11:45] <wolferine> crossfire, irc does not supply you with documentation on how to install your cards drivers, troubleshoot and setup beryl
[11:45] <dsmith> hmmmm lts coming out in 2008
[11:45] <wolferine> crossfire, you might want to go somewhere, instead of have someone type in 10-20 lines to give you an explanation
[11:46] <wolferine> some of us have others things we can do, and especially since there is so much documentation online about it, you might consider starting there first
[11:47] <scotty> How does one turn off clicking via tapping the touchpad in Ubuntu on a laptop?
[11:47] <scotty> *with Kubuntu
[11:47] <dsmith> turn off the touchpad
[11:47] <dsmith> can you?
[11:48] <crossfire> LMAO , yes I have full ability to search teh internet , read docs forums,and so forth , was hoping for quick help to hopefully resolve simple prob
[11:48] <crossfire> so long and thanks for nothing
[11:48] <dsmith> hmmmmmmmm
[11:49] <dsmith> wolferine: what was crossfire's issue?
[11:52] <Apollo_> hi all
[11:52] <Apollo_> :)
[11:52] <runlevelten> dsmith: They demanded people's voluntary help came in the particular form they liked, and became upset when nobody bought them a pony.
[11:52] <runlevelten> Hi Apollo :D
[11:53] <pascal_> Hi
[11:53] <pascal_> how are you all???
[11:54] <pascal_> hello
[11:54] <pascal_> anybody there
[11:54] <sfire> of course
[11:54] <pascal_> cool
[11:54] <pascal_> someone who answer
[11:55] <pascal_> how are you sfire
[11:55] <sfire> doing good
[11:55] <pascal_> great
[11:55] <dsmith> runlevelten: Hmmmm, some people are just ignorant. I always lookup stuff before coming in here asking for help. That way it forces me to learn for myself
[11:57] <Apollo_> hi runlevelten :)
[11:57] <Apollo_> Ubuntu is my first try at Linux but I'm already impressed by it :)
[11:58] <runlevelten> dsmith: uhuh, and it's not even just that - when someone says "there are docs/howtos on this", the first thing I'd be doing is looking for them!
[11:59] <Dragnslcr> Heh, I'm lazy. I ask for a link before I look for them myself
[12:01] <sfire> Apollo_: welcome to the wonderful world of linux
[12:01] <Silent_G> hello
[12:01] <Apollo_> ty... :) I've been programming for Windows for some years now, nothing big, nothing impressive, but I got along. but although I have yet to figure out a lot of things in Linux I don't know yet, it's still wonderful to learn something new :)
[12:01] <aldcor> aldcor
[12:01] <Apollo_> hello
[12:02] <Raysiel> aloha todos
[12:02] <Silent_G> i installed Azureus , and i opened some torrent files that i had saved on windows and im contining download from where i left on windows, Azureus is checking them but its very slow checking them can any one tell me the reason?
[12:04] <sfire> Silent_G: yes
[12:05] <Silent_G> tell me then sfire
[12:05] <Silent_G> :p
[12:05] <sfire> its because its re-hashing them
[12:05] <sfire> its making sure all the data is still intact
[12:06] <sfire> it does it every time the files get moved or the torrent gets re-opened
[12:06] <sfire> its the only way you can really be sure that your not seeding junk and getting banned by every peer in the swarm
[12:06] <raylu> so, my tty just got messed up...how do i fix this?
[12:06] <raylu> i had it output some non-standard chars
[12:07] <sfire> most clients ban your IP after 3 bad upload blocks
[12:09] <Raysiel> i have a strange issue with the printing sistem... it looks like there's no way to fix the orientation, the configuration panel in the application from within i want to print is not active, what could the cause be?
[12:09] <runlevelten> raylu: try typing reset
[12:09] <aldcor> aldcor
[12:10] <Silent_G> sfire, i know it used to check them on windows uTorrent, but it was fast checking them :S
[12:12] <Silent_G> azureus its been long checking them and its still check only 10% of them
[12:13] <sfire> Silent_G: install Torrent in kubuntu :)
[12:13] <sfire> it works flawlessly with WINE :)
[12:13] <Silent_G> really?
[12:13] <sfire> really
[12:13] <sfire> I use it all the time
[12:13] <Silent_G> cool
[12:13] <dsmith> ktorrent is a great torrent program
[12:13] <Silent_G> then i will
[12:13] <Silent_G> since utorrent is my favorite programm
[12:13] <sfire> ktorrent is banned by many trackers
[12:14] <sfire> it reports incorrect statistics
[12:14] <dsmith> heh, I have no problems with it
[12:14] <Raysiel> d'oh sfire are you serious? ;(
[12:14] <sfire> yes
[12:14] <sfire> 3 of them I'm a member of have banned ktorrent