[12:54] <winbond> does anyone know if the latest fglrx can be installed in gutsy?
[01:05] <winbond> !fglrx
[01:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:06] <burner> anyone play with ebox?  i'm curious how hard it is to setup
[01:14] <DanaG> How do you find out what app is bound to a particular port, and kill that app?
[01:15] <Pici> netstat
[01:16] <bur[n] er> then killall when you know the executable name
[01:16] <crimsun> or lsof or fuser
[01:17] <crimsun> sudo netstat -np
[01:17] <DanaG> Aah, thanks.
[01:34] <sparr> bur[n] er: wtf @ killall
[01:34] <sparr> that will kill many apps, not just the one on that port
[01:34] <Pici> sparr: killall does not work without an argument.
[01:35] <sparr> yes, and said argument wont be the program specifically using the port
[01:35] <Pici> Well, it'll be one of the programs, or the one if only one instance is running.  I understand where you are coming from though.
[01:40] <DanaG> Just be warned: the Solaris killall is totally different.
[01:41] <DanaG> That really is "kill everything".
[01:41] <timing> Hey is it a known bug that the gnome is only starting till the background only and then nothing?
[01:42] <timing> I have to run startx by hand everytime i boot up
[01:42] <timing> then it loads normal
[01:42] <timing> but when i boot without startx, i can still login with gdm, but after that it's just nothing
[01:44] <bur[n] er> timing: works here
[01:44] <timing> After one month i'm thinking about filing a bugreport
[01:44] <timing> okay
[01:44] <bur[n] er> timing: might be something in your profile
[01:44] <bur[n] er> ~/. files... try as another user?
[01:44] <timing> ah, i don't have another user yet hehe
[01:44] <DanaG> I think compiz somehow breaks login.
[01:44] <bur[n] er> make one and try :)
[01:44] <timing> yeah it could be compiz
[01:44] <DanaG> It'll take 2 to 4 times of trying to log on.
[01:45] <bur[n] er> you could switch to metacity :)
[01:45] <timing> DanaG: yep
[01:45] <DanaG> I'll hear my gnubiff applet make the "new mail" sound, but I see nothing.
[01:45] <timing> yeah where do i disable compiz, the tray icon s gone for a month as well
[01:45] <DanaG> Oh, and killing compiz locks up the X server, except for the mouse.
[01:45] <timing> or can i get this new compiz thing already?
[01:45] <timing> codenamed compcomm
[01:46] <bur[n] er> it's compiz fusion now
[01:46] <bur[n] er> compcomm is old already ;)
[01:46] <timing> ah
[01:46] <bur[n] er> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[01:46] <timing> k thanks
[01:47] <timing> blech 3th party sources
[01:47] <timing> I'll wait till it's in gutsy
[01:47] <timing> and compiz fusion is just a bunch of beryl plugins?
[01:48] <timing> my compiz is working tho
[01:48] <timing> only with one workspace
[01:48] <timing> but i have four in my gnome-panel
[01:48] <bur[n] er> so change it to 4 or so :)
[01:48] <bur[n] er> it's in gutsy now
[01:48] <timing> ah okay
[01:49] <bur[n] er> compiz-fusion-plugins-extra - Collection of extra plugins from OpenCompositing for Compiz
[01:49] <timing> but i think metacity is running and compiz as well
[01:49] <bur[n] er> only one can be running
[01:49] <timing> well
[01:49] <timing> there is like one big workspace when running compiz right?
[01:49] <timing> but it's four screens wide
[01:50] <bur[n] er> sure
[01:50] <timing> so then your workspace switcher applet looks like one big screen
[01:50] <bur[n] er> i thought that was fixed with fusion
[01:50] <timing> yeah i have a cube as well
[01:50] <timing> but do you have the workspace applet in your bar?
[01:50] <bur[n] er> nope
[01:50] <bur[n] er> one sec
[01:51] <timing> k
[01:51] <Pici> Eh?
[01:51] <bur[n] er> yeah, the workspace switcher applet works with compiz fusion
[01:51] <timing> yeah
[01:51] <timing> and is it divided in 4 squares?
[01:52] <timing> or 5
[01:52] <timing> or 3
[01:52] <bur[n] er> 4
[01:52] <timing> depening on your number of desks
[01:52] <timing> hmm
[01:52] <timing> a month ago there was one big one of the size of four
[01:52] <timing> like compiz told the applet it was one big workspace
[01:52] <bur[n] er> well, all better now :)
[01:52] <timing> yeah
[01:52] <timing> but the thing is
[01:52] <timing> when i click on workspace 2
[01:52] <timing> there is only my background image there
[01:53] <timing> panels are gone
[01:53] <timing> keycombo's are gone
[01:53] <timing> i'm not sure anymore about right mouse click
[01:53] <bur[n] er> wow, all that stuff works here
[01:53] <timing> hmm
[01:53] <timing> so someone feels like hunting this thing?
[01:53] <bur[n] er> upgrade to fusion
[01:53] <bur[n] er> :)
[01:54] <timing> yeah guess so
[01:54] <timing> it's upgrading to latest now
[01:54] <timing> so will try in a few
[01:54] <timing> so is there anything hot and new i should really try out as well?
[01:55] <burner> cube reflection, writing wtih fire, the window+e command
[01:56] <timing> what;s window+e?
[01:56] <timing> i think i read something about it?
[01:56] <timing> and uhm, something _next_ to compiz?
[02:00] <DanaG> mysql-admin: symbol lookup error: mysql-admin: undefined symbol: _ZN4Glib9ValueBase4initEj
[02:00] <DanaG> argh.
[02:01] <Pici> DanaG: I think the bug is already logged if I remember correctly. I had the same problem
[02:04] <burner> timing: window+e is hte expo plugin
[02:08] <cRhYlove> I set mine up to be window+`.
[02:08] <cRhYlove> Much easier to reach. :D
[02:09] <timing> huh and more updates just yet?
[02:10] <burner> if you have an intel card, your videos may not work
[02:47] <crackerbox> hey guys
[02:50] <cRhYlove> I'm having a hard time sharing stuff over my windows network.
[02:51] <cRhYlove> It's trying to make me log in?
[02:51] <cRhYlove> The windows network doesn't HAVE a login though. :/
[02:51] <timing> cRhYlove: maybe you are in the wrong workgroup? dunno if that could be it tho
[02:52] <cRhYlove> no, it's the right workgroup.
[03:05] <chowmeined> cRhYlove: make sure the shared folder has permissions for 'EVERYONE'
[03:06] <chowmeined> cRhYlove: in both the sharing permissions and security tabs
[03:14] <timing> hmm it's time for 'enqueue in totem' as right mouse option in nautilus
[03:14] <chowmeined> totem?
[03:15] <chowmeined> but totem is just really a quick media player
[03:15] <timing> yeah
[03:15] <chowmeined> you can hover over music to play it
[03:15] <timing> yeh
[03:15] <timing> but i'm listening to an album
[03:15] <timing> and was at the last song
[03:15] <timing> but i wanted to hear the ending
[03:15] <chowmeined> what about using a music player?
[03:15] <timing> and add this other album to the list
[03:16] <timing> most of the time i listen with my iAudio
[03:16] <chowmeined> i mean something like rhythmbox or amarok?
[03:17] <timing> yeah
[03:17] <timing> but i just don't feel like this music indexing
[03:17] <cRhYlove> it keeps asking me to login to get on the network.
[03:17] <timing> i like it on my mp3player :-)
[03:17] <timing> chowmeined: i just downloaded 5 new albums
[03:18] <timing> checking it out, ate once
[03:18] <chowmeined> cRhYlove: on which machine?
[03:18] <timing> From Goldfrapp and Venus Hum if anyone is interested :-)
[03:18] <cRhYlove> my gutsy machine.
[03:19] <chowmeined> cRhYlove: did you add 'EVERYONE' permissions to the shared folder?
[03:19] <cRhYlove> So I can't see the drives on the other machines.
[03:19] <cRhYlove> yep.
[03:19] <cRhYlove> But I also need to see the drives on OTHER machines from this one.
[03:21] <DanaG> Argh, the syslog view of tomcat is worse than useless.
[03:21] <DanaG> It squishes the stack trace onto one line, with a bunch of ^I in it.
[03:22] <cRhYlove> Nope, my shared drives are still invisible on the network too.
[03:22] <cRhYlove> :(
[03:23] <timing> hey does someone know how i can open a torrent file with epiphany like this: gnome-terminal -e `screen btdownloadcurses --url %s`
[03:47] <chowmeined> will deluge be in the repos in gutsy?
[03:48] <pawan> hi
[03:48] <pawan> how to manually connect to broadband
[03:48] <pawan> can roboform be used with ubuntu
[03:51] <crdlb> !info deluge gutsy
[03:51] <ubotu> Package deluge does not exist in gutsy
[03:51] <crdlb> !info deluge-torrent gutsy
[03:51] <ubotu> deluge-torrent: A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1292 kB, installed size 4344 kB
[03:53] <chowmeined> excellent
[04:17] <vlowther> arrgh
[04:17] <vlowther> reinstall for teh suck
[04:17] <vlowther> xhs decided to start random;ly truncating files on the root fs during updates
[04:18] <vlowther> er, xfs.
[04:40] <xtknight> will grandparadiso become the default for gutsy?
[04:40] <xtknight> firefox gran paradiso*
[04:52] <RAOF> I highly doubt it.
[05:24] <DanaG> Will there at least be a granparadiso package that we can use to REPLACE firefox?
[05:24] <DanaG> I don't want to acidentally run the old one once I have installed the new one.
[05:25] <Hobbsee> use a dpkg-divert
[05:25] <Hobbsee> check out w.u.c/FirefoxNewVersion on how to use them, and appropriate the example there
[05:26] <DanaG> w.u.c?
[05:26] <DanaG> Oh, wiki.
[05:27] <DanaG> Have they at least fixed the "asian characters lock up the browser" bug?
[05:27] <DanaG> I'd imagine so, but I haven't been keeping up with Mozilla's changelogs.
[05:38] <Min1123> Anyone running Gutsy on X64 architecture have problems with the Human themes and program crashes?
[05:40] <RAOF> Yes, I'm running x86-64.  No, I don't have any problems.
[05:40] <RAOF> Well, any _systemic_ problems, at least :)
[05:41] <Min1123> On my systems on both fresh installs and upgrade installs all programs relying on GTK+ die, and people seem to blame it on the new glibc warning messages, but I think it is caused by the default progress bar on Human.
[05:42] <RAOF> Min1123: Well, you're correct in that the glib warning has nothing to do with it.
[05:43] <Min1123> I don't really have enough data to get debug on it since it segfaults really fast whenever it comes up.  Keeps Gimp, Firefox, Thunderbird, and some of the pyGTK stuff from working, but switching the progress bar animation from the default Human theme seems to remove the issue entirely.
[05:43] <Min1123> Any ideas on further isolating it?
[05:43] <RAOF> Hm.  That seems pretty good.
[05:43] <RAOF> I'll try the human theme.
[05:45] <RAOF> Well, I can't reproduce.  Do you get any apport backtraces?
[05:47] <Min1123> Yeah, and I submitted them.  It seemed to point to the glibc library, but that can't be the culprit.  Let me go test again.
[05:48] <RAOF> Yeah, it's not glibc.  Got any bug numbers handy?
[05:49] <Min1123> Not on hand.  I actually forgot what the website is.
[05:49] <RAOF> launchpad.net?
[05:49] <Min1123> I can get a GIMP stack trace, but I need to go put in the debug packages.
[05:51] <DanaG> Dang, dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/bin/firefox-granparadiso to /usr/bin/firefox by firefox-granparadiso' clashes with `diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox2 by firefox-granparadiso'
[05:51] <RAOF> Well, if you can crash it repeatedly, installing all the dbgsym packages would be good :)
[05:51] <DanaG> I wonder what it does if you leave out the "rename".
[05:53] <DanaG> Oh, it copies.
[05:54] <Min1123> This is what firefox crashes on 0x00002b48074825d3 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2
[05:56] <Min1123> I read a few bugs that said some of the earlier Human themes had Cairo issues, no knowledge on that.
[05:56] <RAOF> I'd need a little more context than that to help :)
[05:56] <Min1123> Bug #61303, but it's from 2006-09-19
[05:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 61303 in libcairo "gtk apps segfault on gnome 'Human' theme, only from XDMCP" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/61303
[05:56] <Min1123> Yeah.
[05:56] <Min1123> But that's Dapper too.
[05:57] <DanaG> Okay, I went right back to the official.
[05:57] <DanaG> I mean, back to 2.0.whatever.
[05:58] <DanaG> 3.something breaks ctrl-l, ctrl-f12, and a whole bunch of other things.
[05:59] <Min1123> 0x00002b48041b2fad in raise () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
[05:59] <Min1123> That's what it actually segfaults on, so I'm speculating that it's trying to alter the thread priority through the Cairo library, but that's beyond my scope.
[06:02] <RAOF> Hm.  If you could install all the -dbgsym packages you can think of, you could attach the apport crash file to one of your bugs - that'd be helpful.
[06:02] <RAOF> Just to confirm, are you trying to run X in 8bit colour?
[06:04] <Min1123> Yeah, I will, it's just that apport doesn't pick up the bugs.
[06:05] <RAOF> You can check /var/crash.  There should be files in there.
[06:06] <Min1123> These programs like to say that I don't have enough free memory to debug on a 2GB RAM machine with another 4GB of swap partition.
[06:06] <Min1123> I am running in 24-bit color.
[06:08] <RAOF> So it's not that bug that you linked.
[06:09] <Min1123> I haven't found a duplicate yet, unless you count all the bugs that seemed to be glibc.
[06:09] <Min1123> I think this could be related to a number of those since the apps that don't work in those reports are the same ones.
[06:12] <Min1123> Any idea what the libcairo dbg is?  I'm not finding it so I have "??" in the traces.
[06:13] <Amaranth> Min1123: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[06:14] <Min1123> Thanks.
[06:18] <pawan> how to install realtek drivers for ubuntu
[06:19] <Min1123> Is there an auth for the dbgsym?
[06:20] <Min1123> @pawan Which Realtek device?  Most have drivers already in the kernel or supplied modules.
[06:21] <pawan> ac97
[06:21] <pawan> icant get the sound icon which i get in windows
[06:21] <Min1123> The audio drivers for that should already be in the version you have.
[06:21] <pawan> the surround sound preset and eqilizer
[06:21] <pawan> and good mp3 burning software
[06:22] <Min1123> Under system and preferences there is a section called Sound.
[06:22] <pawan> yes
[06:23] <Min1123> That should be everything you need to set that up, the mixer is default in the upper left of the screen in the top panel.
[06:23] <Min1123> If you have volume control on the keyboard it is probably active as well.
[06:24] <Min1123> MP3 burning meaning burning MP3s to a redbook audio CD?
[06:24] <pawan> i want to burn mp3 files to cd
[06:25] <Min1123> Just insert the CD into a burner and it will ask if you want to make an audio or a data CD.
[06:25] <Min1123> Select audio.
[06:25] <Toxicity999> well if you want to burn the fiels as data
[06:25] <Min1123> It will open a program to help you do that.
[06:25] <Toxicity999> and not make a real audio cd
[06:26] <Dannilionz> I need some help with internet connection sharing
[06:26] <pawan> ok
[06:27] <Dannilionz> basically, I have an internet connection on this PC which is ppp0. I want to share this so I can access the internet from my laptop at the same time. Only problem is, as soon as I bring the network up on this machine I lose the internet
[06:27] <Dannilionz> I think the problem is in my routing table, but I don't know how to fix it
[06:28] <Dannilionz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30745/ - output of route. I think I need to remove this line:
[06:28] <pawan> it is saying disk capacity exceeded
[06:28] <RAOF> Dannilionz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing?highlight=%28internet%29
[06:29] <pawan> i am burning mp3 files
[06:29] <Dannilionz> thanks, will try that
[06:30] <pawan> any good specific mp3 burning software
[06:30] <RAOF> What are you trying to do again?  To burn mp3s to an audio cd that any CD player can play?
[06:31] <pawan> to play in an mp3 player
[06:31] <pawan> and mp3 cd
[06:31] <RAOF> Also, since this doesn't appear to be a Gutsy question, you may have more luck in #ubuntu, where there are many more people.
[06:32] <DanaG> Is there a way to connect multiple times to the same AP using nm-applet?
[06:32] <DanaG> I know I can do it manually, but I want to do it with NetworkManager.
[06:32] <RAOF> DanaG: Probably not.  How would you do that anyway?
[06:33] <DanaG> Have multiple WiFi cards.  I have built-in ipw3945/iwl3945, and a cardbus bcm43xx.
[06:33] <marek`> yeah d00d there is for sure a way
[06:33] <DanaG> I haven't actually seen any major issues using this bcm4306 card with the native module.
[06:33] <DanaG> Er, swap "haven't" and "actually".
[06:33] <Min1123> I'm using a bcm4311 with the native module now too.
[06:34] <DanaG> Oh, one nice thing about Vista: it'll come with Broadcom drivers.
[06:34] <DanaG> So you won't have to tell people to go and download them.
[06:34] <DanaG> I mean, for fwcutter.
[06:35] <RAOF> DanaG: NM doesn't currently support more than one active device IIRC, so I'm thinking you'll need to do it manually.
[06:36] <Min1123> Well, Dell is involved now, so hopefully either bcm will become more compliant or become less used.
[06:38] <DanaG> Odd: Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by bcm43xx-fwcutter.  This file has an unknown MD5sum cf6a67c90951e3e763d2135dede44b85.
[06:39] <DanaG> I guess the Vista in-the-box drivers aren't fw-cuttable.
[06:41] <DanaG> Oh, I see: the inf files have a bunch of bogus characters.
[06:41] <DanaG> ^@[^@v^@e^@r^@s^@i^@o^@n^@] ^@^M^@
[06:41] <RAOF> Hooray for rsync and my 33Mb/sec updating of the daily server cd
[06:41] <DanaG> 33 megabits?  Where?
[06:41] <DanaG> I'm stuck with 3 megabits.
[06:42] <DanaG> But when I have anything reeally big to download, I can go on campus, with GbE to the internet.
[06:42] <Toma-> !info librsvg2-2
[06:42] <ubotu> librsvg2-2: SAX-based renderer library for SVG files (runtime). In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-2 (gutsy), package size 127 kB, installed size 296 kB
[06:42] <RAOF> With rsync.  The actual average download speed was 400Kb/sec, but I needed 8 times less than the full CD :)
[06:43] <Min1123> Most of the newer firmwares don't work with it.
[06:45] <DanaG> Well, Vista also does odd stuff with network drivers, as I discovered from reading the ndiswrapper site.
[06:45] <DanaG> It has a new version of the ndis standard.
[06:45] <DanaG> In addition, the INF files are padded with junk, it seems, and perhaps the same with SYS files.
[06:45] <DanaG> This bcm4306 seems stable enough to me.
[06:46] <DanaG> And the same with iwl3945.
[06:46] <Min1123> ndiswrapper has been unstable lately.
[06:47] <Min1123> And since it plays closely with the kernel, it locks up one of my cores randomly, so I'm happy to use the native one, although it is sometimes slower.
[06:49] <DanaG> One thing I like about my Gateway laptop: simplicity.  No proprietary ACPI modules, no software radio toggle (just hardware, instead), ipw3945 wifi, e1000 GbE.
[06:50] <DanaG> Oh, and a competent EDID, so you get the right resolution with nvidia -- unlike some (older, at least) Toshibas.
[07:08] <Min1123> @RAOF Now listed as Bug #127493
[07:16] <flodine> how is gutsy running? anyone
[07:17] <BirthdayHobbsee> it runs, most of the time.
[07:17] <Min1123> Still some glitches, but most of it runs well.
[07:17] <flodine> cool
[07:18] <Min1123> If it doesn't I suggest changing the theme.
[07:19] <flodine> will this be a LTS version
[07:19] <stdin> flodine: no, gutsy+1 will be
[07:19] <SeveredCross> Runs well for me, though the themes are a bit fugly.
[07:20] <SeveredCross> At least they seem to be.
[07:20] <SeveredCross> The glossy theme could be nice if it didn't make all the bloody windows blue.
[07:20] <SeveredCross> Hmmm.
[07:20] <SeveredCross> You know what GNOME is missing.
[07:20] <SeveredCross> A mountpoint manager.
[07:22] <Min1123> I suppose gparted doesn't really count.
[07:41] <chowmeined> SeveredCross: /etc/fstab
[07:42] <SeveredCross> Haha, funny.
[07:42] <SeveredCross> You think a Windows convert wants to edit /etc/fstab?
[07:42] <chowmeined> i dont think windows converts need a 'mountpoint manager'
[07:43] <SeveredCross> Maybe not title it that, but something to help them mount drives.
[07:43] <chowmeined> i seriously doubt windows converts will be creating new partitions after installation
[07:43] <chowmeined> automount takes care of CDs and thumb drives
[07:43] <SeveredCross> Something to help them mount their Windows drive, storage partitions, etc.
[07:43] <chowmeined> and external hard drives
[07:43] <elkbuntu> gyah. does firefox not have session restore on gutsy anymore?!
[07:43] <chowmeined> SeveredCross: but they already are mounted under /media
[07:44] <SeveredCross> Are they mounted by default if they don't touch partitioning?
[07:44] <chowmeined> er
[07:44] <chowmeined> no they show up in nautilus
[07:44] <chowmeined> and under Places > Computer
[07:44] <SeveredCross> Uh, I thought things only showed up there when mounted on mountpoints in /media/
[07:45] <chowmeined> i forgot about my windows partition hehe
[07:45] <chowmeined> its under Places > Computer.. but its not mounted.. and its not in /media
[07:46] <SeveredCross> Hmm. Weird.
[07:46] <SeveredCross> I could've sworn only things that were mounted went there. My mistake.
[07:46] <SeveredCross> I still think something to easily edit the options in /etc/fstab would be nice, but I suppose it isn't essential.
[08:31] <wsjunior> hello. i'm using kubuntu gutsy tribe 3 up to date here and I've just installed fglrx driver 8.39.4 that works with kernel 2.22, its everything ok inside X but I'm not able to switch to console (control+alt+f1)
[08:31] <wsjunior> I get a black screen
[08:32] <wsjunior> When I switch to console
[09:08] <pawan> hi
[09:40] <eagles0513875> !e2fsck
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about e2fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <eagles0513875> !fsck
[09:41] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[09:57] <jl> helllo
[09:57] <jl> tribe3 is giving me a beating
[09:57] <jl> can't get 1280x1024 rez working - i've editing my xorg.conf to add it
[09:57] <jl> still dont even see the option in configure desktop :(
[10:02] <jl> tribe 3 users here?
[10:02] <RAOF> Gutsy users here :)
[10:02] <jl> im using fresh install of kubuntu tribe3 ;( ....seems like a lot of stupid problems
[10:03] <jl> ie, gutsy - 2 day old release
[10:03] <jl> i have a weird menu :(
[10:03] <RAOF> Well, time to file some bugs!
[10:04] <jl> most entries start with   ___: Entries in Kmenu:
[10:05] <jl> and i can't get 1280x1024 rez working - even tho i have added it in quotes to my xorg.conf - and restarted X using alt-ctrl-backspace :(  what am i missing??
[10:05] <RAOF> jl: Pastebin Xorg.0.log, and I'll have a look
[10:08] <jl> http://pastebin.ca/629407
[10:09] <jl> the only thing i did after a fresh install - was sudo apt-get update - then installed the kubuntu-restricted
[10:10] <RAOF> Oh.  You're using the vesa driver.  That's not going to work well :)
[10:11] <jl> sudo apt-get install nvidia?
[10:12] <jl> or what?
[10:14] <jl> hello?
[10:15] <RAOF> jl: Sorry.  You might have better luck summoning me with my name :)
[10:15] <RAOF> jl: Well, that depends on what graphics card you have, obviously :)
[10:15] <jl> :) lol i figured smart kubuntu users might have an attention span longer then a gnat ;)
[10:16] <jl> 7600 geforce
[10:17] <jl> in deb i used the new 100.14 drivers - but i dont see those as an option :((
[10:17] <RAOF> Yes; you want to install nvidia-glx-new, and then run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[10:17] <RAOF> jl: Indeed.  The 100 series drivers aren't packaged yet.
[10:17] <jl> i was running deb sid :) the 100's worked wonders :)
[10:18] <jussi01> la de da.. apt is broken...
[10:18] <jl> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[10:18] <jl> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:19] <jl> after running sudo nvidia-xconfig :((
[10:19] <jussi01> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[10:19] <jussi01> anyone seen that one beore? how do i fix?
[10:19] <jl> jussi01 - you're on tribe 3 also?
[10:20] <jussi01> jl: tribe 2 plus updates... so yes
[10:20] <jl> well - i don't know if updating tribe2 will = tribe3;) ... unless you specifically did the latest kde4 alpha2
[10:20] <jussi01> jl: oh, really?
[10:21] <jussi01> tribe 3 has kde 4??????
[10:21] <RAOF> No.
[10:21] <jl> i know tribe 3 does kde4alpha2  :)
[10:21] <jl> not as default - but its there
[10:21] <RAOF> Yes.  Parallel installable
[10:22] <jussi01> oh...well whatever, I just need to fix my apt....
[10:23] <jl> RAOF - btw where would i see that?
[10:23] <jl> the kde4?
[10:30] <jl> so - any other geforce 7600 (or 7k series) users out there? - did u have problems geting higher then 1024x rez working???
[10:31] <RAOF> jl: Well, my 7600 works just fine.  I'm not sure why xconfig dumped core :(
[10:32] <jl> i'm runing apt-get upgrade now - maybe something will get fixed
[10:32] <RAOF> You could try a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to select the nvidia driver
[10:32] <jl> gcc 4.2.1 is out eh? - cool stuff
[10:32] <jl> cool i'll try that RAOF thx
[10:35] <jl> is anyone using kde4 alpha2 from the new tribe 3 btw?
[10:36] <jl> RAOF - what rez do you use?
[10:39] <RAOF> 1650x1040
[10:39] <jl> k, cool - did you have to edit your xorg.conf?
[10:39] <RAOF> No.
[10:40] <RAOF> Then again, nvidia-xconfig didn't segfault for me :)
[10:40] <jl> curse those segfaults
[10:44] <jl> raof
[10:45] <jl> i'm running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --- but it only give a list of options - including 'nv' - but nothing 'nvidia-glx-new' etc....
[10:46] <RAOF> There should be a "nvidia" option.
[10:46] <RAOF> If you've installed the nvidia-glx-new package.
[10:58] <stdin> anyone else loose the ability to use media keys, like play/pause on there keyboard?
[11:22] <jussi01> ok, heres the thing, I launch the program from terminal (tremulous) it works fine, but i created a launcher and it freezes from the first screen. any idea whats going wrong?
[11:49] <mike_> Greets, everyone...
[11:49] <mike_> Has anyone had any luck with getting bcm43xx-fwcutter to work under Gutsy? It keeps giving me an MD5sum mismatch when it tries to process the firmware file.
[12:01] <milk_> hello
[12:05] <milk_> anyone known how to install vmware server (last build on vmware.com) under gutsy (uptodate, kernel 2.6.22 personnal build) ?
[12:05] <chowmeined> you need to download a patch vmware-any-any google for it
[12:07] <milk_> the last patch can i give is the vmware-any-any-update109.tar.gz (get by link on ubuntu forum) and not working (i've get the same error with or without)
[12:10] <chowmeined> search the ftp site
[12:10] <chowmeined> the newest is 110
[12:34] <pawan> how to download new screensaver for ubuntu
[12:35] <pawan> hi
[12:37] <milk_> i got the vmware-any-any-update111.tar.gz with the last build of vmware server and always not working !
[12:37] <chowmeined> pawan: gnome-look.org
[01:03] <milk_> i found the solution: downgrade to vmware server 1.0.2 and use the vmware-any-any-update111.tgz
[01:03] <milk_> the vmware server 1.0.3 with vmware-any 111 not working at this moment
[01:36] <timing> so with this compiz fusion, i only need compiz-core?
[01:36] <timing> nothing else?
[01:38] <pawan> how to change broadband connection name
[01:43] <amayera> hi
[01:53] <pawan> how to know version of ubuntu
[01:54] <amayera> pawan: cat /etc/issue
[01:55] <[swb] > hello all
[01:55] <[swb] > hi unix4me :)
[01:55] <unix4me> hi, swb
[01:56] <[swb] > I have thought that ubuntu has been missing this feature for quite a while
[01:56] <[swb] > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117027
[01:56] <[swb] > but found nothing on the internet about it since this date
[01:58] <unix4me> [swb] : I think you'll have more luck in Ubuntu-devel; I think this is support for people who are already using Gutsy :S
[01:58] <unix4me> * #ubuntu-devel
[01:58] <[swb] > unix4me, yeah I figured
[01:58] <[swb] > thx
[01:58] <unix4me> welcome
[03:00] <Zapek> hello. anyone knows what is supposed to start hald? I thought it would be the startup scripts but it doesn't seem to be the case
[03:02] <Zapek> hm. the thing probably just crashes
[03:10] <cRhYlove> Anyone else having networking problems in qemu?
[03:11] <cRhYlove> I'm trying to use the new ReactOS in VM. :D  But I can't connect to any network in qemu for some reason.
[03:11] <cRhYlove> :(
[03:46] <fiveiron> FYI, athlon 2500xp, 768mb ram, nforce chipset blah blah, gutsy installed without a hitch
[03:54] <pawan> how to enable opengl
[04:00] <mrsno__> pawan are you running gutsy 7.10?
[04:00] <pawan> feisty 7.04 ubuntu
[04:00] <mrsno__> please ask in #ubuntu , this is for gutsy (current development version) talk
[04:01] <pawan> ok
[04:01] <mrsno__> i see stefg has already pasted you the link :-) that should get you working
[04:38] <np> you have been found
[04:38] <mrsno> :p
[04:39] <np> btw, am i masked up atm?
[04:39] <mrsno> you are indeed
[04:39] <np> or ip showing
[04:39] <np> wicked
[04:39] <mrsno> you lie, you haven't installed gutsy :<
[06:02] <thompa> intel macbook is working great as long as I remember to disable compiz at reboot
[06:03] <thompa> power history is really great as is network tools
[06:06] <thompa> no setup required on touchpad, in fact it works better than osx in my opinion
[06:06] <thompa> side scrolling works and 3 finger tap
[07:51] <FFForever> when will tribe 2 be out?
[07:53] <crdlb> FFForever, err
[07:54] <FFForever> err is a wonderful time frame...
[07:54] <crdlb> see /topic, Tribe 3 is out
[07:54] <FFForever> ohhh snaps (LMAO!!!)
[07:55] <FFForever> will support for upgrades (from other ubuntu distro's be supported)
[07:55] <FFForever> i just upgraded my kubuntu to just ubuntu and it didn't pick up the kubuntu for the settings transfer...... but it found the windows.......
[07:58] <FFForever> one more thing when will ubuntu have cnr???, whit 7.10 or +1?
[07:59] <pvandewyngaerde> cnr ?
[08:00] <FFForever> *spire click N run app
[08:04] <elkbuntu> ooh tasty. networking b0rked on boot. requires restarting the service to work
[08:05] <elkbuntu> actually, it must just have been the one time. worked fine this boot.
[09:12] <b0b> hello
[09:14] <jussi01> hello
[09:24] <MikeRotch> hey guys
[09:24] <MikeRotch> i just got gutsy installed and i am needing help, i wonder where the "restricted modules" is??
[09:24] <MikeRotch> like the ATI driver
[09:24] <SeveredCross> Hmm.
[09:25] <SeveredCross> System --> Administration --> Restricted Driver Manager?
[09:25] <SeveredCross> Is that what you're looking for?
[09:25] <MikeRotch> haha yea usually it is there
[09:25] <SeveredCross> If it's not there, make sure it's installed..
[09:25] <SeveredCross> dpkg -l restricted-manager
[09:25] <SeveredCross> (or use synaptic, I just prefer the CLI)
[09:25] <MikeRotch> sweet
[09:25] <MikeRotch> does that come with XGL now?
[09:25] <MikeRotch> or nah
[09:26] <SeveredCross> Nope.
[09:26] <MikeRotch> mannn
[09:26] <MikeRotch> hha
[09:26] <SeveredCross> ATI is still borked for effects.
[09:26] <SeveredCross> On Feisty it is very doable.
[09:26] <SeveredCross> I got Beryl very stable on Feisty, but since the packages aren't updated for Gutsy yet I don't wanna mess with it.
[09:26] <SeveredCross> I'll wait till Gutsy is released and Beryl gets repackaged.
[09:26] <MikeRotch> yea beryl to me is not as pretty as the compiz i liek to use
[09:26] <SeveredCross> Or till they make the wholesale merge to Compiz.
[09:27] <MikeRotch> i wish it were easier to install xgl
[09:28] <SeveredCross> It is easy...aptitude install xserver-xgl
[09:28] <SeveredCross> :)
[09:28] <SeveredCross> Getting it to work correctly with fglrx is a whole 'nother story.
[09:28] <MikeRotch> hahayea
[09:29] <MikeRotch> well right now i am installing this linux-restricted-modules 2.6.22-8-386
[09:29] <MikeRotch> weee
[09:35] <jussi01> grrrr... i hate compiz fusion in kubuntu gutsy...
[09:35] <jussi01> very buggy atm
[09:36] <MikeRotch> how come gutsy comes with compiz but not xgl
[09:36] <MikeRotch> shoudl compiz work in regular xsession or whatever
[09:36] <crdlb> MikeRotch, not with fglrx
[09:37] <crdlb> but with other video drivers, yes
[09:37] <jussi01> MikeRotch: nice nick. yeas, with nvidia and intel you dont need xgl
[09:37] <MikeRotch> oh, so if i had an nvidia i woudln't have to create xgl session?
[09:37] <MikeRotch> wow...
[09:37] <MikeRotch> that sucks haha
[09:37] <crdlb> what ati card do you have?
[09:37] <pwnguin> well, it uses aiglx i tihnk
[09:37] <pwnguin> think
[09:37] <MikeRotch> x1600
[09:37] <MikeRotch> overclocked edition it's decent
[09:37] <crdlb> then you can't use the free driver
[09:37] <crdlb> so you're stuck with fglrx :/
[09:38] <MikeRotch> cause my stuff is so awesome?
[09:38] <MikeRotch> =P
[09:38] <pwnguin> /ati is so stingy
[09:38] <pwnguin> then again, at least ati has working drivers for some things
[09:38] <MikeRotch> yea i suppose
[09:39] <MikeRotch> well i am installin the ATI restricted driver now
[09:39] <MikeRotch> then i got to restart i think
[09:39] <MikeRotch> so brb in a minute
[10:19] <MikeRotch> cool
[10:19] <MikeRotch> i installed an xgl session now i got everything going
[10:38] <DigitalNinja> Is Gutsy working yet?
[10:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Today's its day off :)
[10:39] <DigitalNinja> lol
[12:09] <DanaG> Argh,
[12:09] <DanaG> (gnome-panel:23402): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -5 and height 24
[12:09] <DanaG> But of course, it doesn't tell you WHAT applet!
[12:09] <DanaG> Aargh.
[12:09] <MikeRotch> hey everyone
[12:09] <MikeRotch> i got a problem real quick
[12:10] <MikeRotch> when i click ont he add/remove programs tool it pops up the screen corect size and stuff, but unde the titlebar is grey and stays grey as in it doesn't show my options
[12:10] <MikeRotch> i tried a sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-app-install   command
[12:10] <MikeRotch> and still the same.. any suggestions
[12:15] <MikeRotch> please help =)
[12:20] <jussi01> MikeRotch: check the comand its running, is it running as root?
[12:21] <MikeRotch> jussi01 i don't know how to check sorry
[12:21] <MikeRotch> but it's the add/remove in the applications menu
[12:21] <jussi01> MikeRotch: go to system  and find the menu editor, its there somewhere, i dont rn gnome
[12:23] <MikeRotch> i got one of those but it's just for SHOWING the icon
[12:23] <MikeRotch> i click the icon and the entire add/remove screen is greay it doesn't show the options is my problem =(