[01:21] <nalioth> ikonia: can you let it go in #ubuntu
[01:21] <ikonia> sure, just shut him up
[01:24] <ikonia> nalioth: just tell him this is ubuntu support - its not fair to ask us to support other distro's because he can't be bothered to wait in mandriva
[02:14] <ikonia> can someone get a grip on abstrakt in #ubuntu posting random utube links and general trash chatter
[02:15] <ikonia> nalioth: thanks
[02:15] <ikonia> nalioth: his response in a pm "abstrakt> fine fuck you too"
[02:15] <ikonia> no idea where that came from
[02:17] <Tm_P> ha
[02:19] <ikonia> I hadn't even pm'd him so I don't know where the "you too" came from
[02:19] <ikonia> should have just been "fine, fuck you"
[02:21] <jdong> ikonia: don't feel bad -- I got one of those forum PM's for removing POC exploit code...
[02:22] <ikonia> I feel fine actually
[02:22] <ikonia> one less idiot in the channel, I can take an insult if it makes it better
[02:22] <nalioth> he'll be back
[02:22] <nalioth> not sure for how long, though
[02:22] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[02:23] <ikonia> he smelt of "thorn in the side"
[02:24] <jdong> :)
[02:24] <jdong> lol just had a person walk out on me when I was explaining something to him.
[02:25] <jdong> hmph *angrily stomps out to dinner*
[02:25] <ikonia> jdong: where ?
[02:25] <jdong> #ubuntuforums
[02:25] <jdong> not important channel
[02:29] <ikonia> jdong: are you also jtong ?
[02:29] <jdong> nope
[02:29] <jdong> I'm jdong :)
[02:29] <jdong> and a number of other mysterious names too
[02:29] <jdong> but none resembling jdong
[02:29] <ikonia> someone in ubuntu called jtong
[02:29] <jdong> that's not me then :)
[02:30] <jdong_> WTF who changed my irssi.conf?
[02:30] <jdong_> GRR
[02:31] <jdong_> is this what it says under jdong too??
[02:31] <jdong_> nope...
[02:31] <jdong_> grr
[02:31] <jdong> ok, time to lock my computer more.
[02:40] <Tm_P> hah
[02:40] <Tm_P> it was me
[02:41] <jdong> :P
[06:50] <Flannel> Could use some help in #ubnutu
[06:50] <Flannel> er, you know.  Greatmetal
[06:51] <BirthdayHobbsee> !staff
[06:53] <BirthdayHobbsee> i wish we could block all notices to a channel..
[06:53] <elkbuntu> nalioth, jenda, SportChick, alindeman, seanw, tomaw, rob1
[06:55] <nalioth> BirthdayHobbsee: the dcc sender was klined
[06:55] <BirthdayHobbsee> nalioth: great
[06:55] <nalioth> didn't get any other ctcps from anyone else
[06:57] <Pie-rate> why was i banned for typing !ops when the channel was under attack?
[06:58] <nalioth> sayers is non exploitable
[06:58] <Pie-rate> what?
[06:59] <BirthdayHobbsee> nalioth: does what Pie-rate said actually trigger the exploit?
[06:59] <nalioth> BirthdayHobbsee: no, it does not.
[06:59] <Pie-rate> uhh, i have no clue what's going on, but i was banned for no reason.
[06:59] <BirthdayHobbsee> darn, so i missed
[07:00] <nalioth> Pie-rate: you should not paste things that don't make sense to you (that you receive as ctcps)
[07:00] <BirthdayHobbsee> Pie-rate: my apologies.  but please do not paste that string.
[07:00] <Pie-rate> ...
[07:00] <Pie-rate> you mean "sendkeylogger?"
[07:00] <Pie-rate> or whatever
[07:00] <nalioth> Pie-rate: yes, please don't do taht
[07:00] <Pie-rate> can you at least read the whole message and realize that it was going on before i said that?
[07:01] <elkbuntu> Pie-rate, it's only out of pure luck that nalioth's auto-kline script didnt k-line you
[07:01] <BirthdayHobbsee> Pie-rate: you assume that it only happened once.  you are wrong, in this assumption.
[07:01] <nalioth> Pie-rate: unfortunately, asking questions with certain strings in them, is as harmful as actually having evil intentions
[07:02] <Pie-rate> umm... ok, but i didn't do anything wrong, and why is that? can't you figure out where exactly the actual attacks are coming from and stop them that way?
[07:03] <nalioth> Pie-rate: the attacker was taken care of
[07:03] <nalioth> please don't paste strange things into large channels any more
[07:03] <elkbuntu> Pie-rate, we err on the side of 'better safe than sorry' when it comes to getting problems out of the channels
[07:04] <BirthdayHobbsee> Pie-rate: depending on what you paste, *you* become another attacker.
[07:04] <BirthdayHobbsee> Pie-rate: whether by accident or intentional
[07:05] <Pie-rate> BirthdayHobbsee: no, i become the guy in the hostage situation who yells "RUN" and causes the attackers to start shooting, if you would like an analogy.
[07:05] <BirthdayHobbsee> Pie-rate: if you write the string that causes another exploit, *you are the attacker*
[07:05] <nalioth> i don't think analogies are necessary
[07:05] <nalioth> Pie-rate: you are unbanned in #ubuntu, and thanks for your patience
[07:05] <Pie-rate> umm, the string itself is not an exploit, whatever ircbot is triggered by it is.
[07:06] <nalioth> Pie-rate: /msg ubotu exploit
[07:06] <nalioth> it's not a bot
[07:06] <Pie-rate> if i'm understanding correctly
[07:06] <BirthdayHobbsee> if you want an analogy, whether you have accidently set the house on fire, or deliberately, the house is still set on fire, and you have to deal with the consequences of the burnt house.
[07:06] <nalioth> it's a whole lot of poeples routers
[07:06] <Pie-rate> BirthdayHobbsee: yet, your insurance will pay for one and not the other. strange how the world works, isn't it?
[07:07] <BirthdayHobbsee> however, i really dont see the point of arguing this, as you do not understand about the exploit
[07:07] <Pie-rate> ok, i'm guessing you mean their routers have been attacked and they're triggered by an IRC message?
[07:07] <BirthdayHobbsee> and when you are more educated on it, you'll likely understand.
[07:08] <BirthdayHobbsee> Pie-rate: every time you run that string correctly, you throw a whole bunch of people with effected routers off the network.
[07:08] <BirthdayHobbsee> Pie-rate: the fact that yours was in quotes may have been what stopped it.  i'm not sure
[07:08] <Pie-rate> "invalid DDC commands"
[07:08] <Amaranth> no, just that string in general
[07:09] <Amaranth> in a message to the channel, a private message, dcc, ctcp, etc
[07:09] <BirthdayHobbsee> Amaranth: the dcc*send is an invalid dcc command
[07:09] <Amaranth> yeah, they do that too
[07:09] <BirthdayHobbsee> but that string is slightly different from the standard dcc*send, and has a different payload
[07:09] <Pie-rate> what string exactly are you referring to? you may /msg it to me if you wish, clearly i am not affected by this exploit.
[07:09] <BirthdayHobbsee> whihc is why the huge drops
[07:09] <Pie-rate> because i'm still not convinced i said anything that would cause that.
[07:09] <nalioth> Pie-rate: we'd rather not
[07:10] <nalioth> Pie-rate: i am a network staff member, and i deal with this idiocy every day
[07:10] <nalioth> Pie-rate: take my word for it, a simple line of text does it.
[07:10] <Amaranth> bug in the routers
[07:12] <Pie-rate> i did not say the word DDC, i did not say the word SEND.
[07:12] <elkbuntu> in the NAT of the routers, iirc, Amaranth
[07:12] <nalioth> Pie-rate: there are other strings
[07:12] <BirthdayHobbsee> s/effected/affected/
[08:35] <BirthdayHobbsee> yay, a on.nimp.org person...
[08:57] <Elite101> help i am banned
[08:57] <Elite101> dont know what to say
[08:58] <Elite101> help please
[08:59] <Elite101> anyone??
[08:59] <elkbuntu> Elite101, you probably got hit by the d c c exploit
[08:59] <Elite101> whats that?
[08:59] <elkbuntu> what channel did you end up in when you tried to join #ubuntu?
[09:00] <Elite101> or someone hitt me to a ban?
[09:00] <Elite101> #kubuntu
[09:00] <Elite101> ohh nothing
[09:00] <Elite101> the freenode page
[09:00] <Elite101> it sayed i was banned at the bottom
[09:00] <elkbuntu> ah then it wasnt the exploit
[09:00] <Elite101> what is the d c c exploit?
[09:01] <stdin> ahh, posting an on.nimp.org link, 3 times
[09:01] <Elite101> so someone banned me?
[09:01] <Elite101> so thats bad?
[09:01] <elkbuntu> you were the link spammer?
[09:01] <Elite101> i didnt mean to adverstise the site or anything someone hackedinto my pc
[09:02] <Elite101> yeah to tell them the proper link i put .com instead of org and said it one last time
[09:02] <Elite101> but then boom i got banned
[09:02] <Elite101> but someone hacked the html on that website for me so i cant view it but i get anotherr thing and its really bad
[09:03] <Elite101> so i told on of the ppl ther if they can help me biovore or something
[09:03] <elkbuntu> Elite101, that site isnt hacked, it's a site that uses exploits in browsers
[09:03] <Elite101> i was just a little shokup /yes it is
[09:03] <Elite101> for
[09:03] <Elite101> im taking any chances on clicking on it
[09:03] <Elite101> i did it three times
[09:04] <stdin> some nasty JS in that thing
[09:04] <Elite101> its supposed to be a gamming website for psp the ppl over at #psp-programmer told me  they steal ppl's code from there work and hack there svn so i sayed who is it
[09:04] <Elite101> and the person was test300
[09:04] <Elite101> 30*
[09:05] <BirthdayHobbsee> is there any legitimate reason to link spam?
[09:05] <BirthdayHobbsee> especially when it's a known bad link?
[09:05] <Elite101> so they gave me the website but it wasnt the real website it was the hacked html the did it and its saved so that i only i can see it my friend see's the page fine
[09:06] <Elite101> im sorry for what i have done but u wouldnt belive what came up it scared me till i almost felt like i was going to have a heart attack
[09:07] <Elite101> and it froze my computer and something in KDE crashed
[09:07] <Elite101> the webpages just kept comming up over and over and the screen would go all over the place so i couldnt hit the exit button
[09:07] <Elite101> and it was very scary they laughed in the channel
[09:07] <Elite101> and i even tried typing it in by hand in the konqueror browser but it still came up some how
[09:08] <Elite101> but i just wanna be unbanned and  i am sorry for what i have done and it wont happen again...
[09:08] <Elite101> i never am like this at all just that this juust really shoke me up
[09:09] <elkbuntu> Elite101, next time it happens, kill the browser from the command line
[09:09] <Elite101> okay its still at the html thing they hacked i dont know how they did it
[09:10] <Elite101> i cant view that website i am petrafied
[09:10] <Elite101> thats what i did from the taskbar thing but the next time it popped up and it keep on making the sound of another browser appearign and KDE crashed so i had to push the power buton
[09:12] <Elite101> i can view the website on another computer or do a whole system re-install? i will not check out that website again on this ip or this user
[09:12] <Elite101> can i be unbanned now?
[09:13] <Elite101> elkbuntu, you said  that site isnt hacked, it's a site that uses exploits in browsers whats that mean? my friend is on the same site same url and its normal? is it normal for you?
[09:14] <stdin> any browser with JavaScript enabled will be exploited by that site
[09:14] <BirthdayHobbsee> removed.   if you paste that again though....i wont be putting it down to user error.
[09:14] <Elite101> okay so its like a hacking website?
[09:14] <stdin> it a website that you should just not go to, ever
[09:15] <elkbuntu> Elite101, no, it's a stupid scriptkiddie prank site
[09:15] <Elite101> can someone hack that website back so it safe?
[09:15] <Elite101> okay i never heard of it
[09:15] <Elite101> but it works on my friends pc?
[09:15] <Elite101> did u get a normal website thou like of psp? or the cow thing?
[09:15] <elkbuntu> your friend probably has javascript disabled
[09:15] <BirthdayHobbsee> uh, none of us were stupid enough to visit it, knowing what it does...
[09:15] <Elite101> okay..but he said his outlook is going funny
[09:16] <Elite101> it works fine on someone elses computer just not mine (dont take the rish thou)
[09:16] <stdin> the site is bad, don't go there. EndOfMessage
[09:17] <Elite101> how do u know its a script kiddie prank because the ppl that did it dont own the site? they steal stuff like C++ codes from that guys work
[09:17] <Elite101> okay
[09:17] <Elite101> i wont
[09:17] <Elite101> ever
[09:17] <Elite101> i did think it was a bad site but now i learend my lesson lol
[09:18] <Elite101> so if i turned off javascript the site should be fine or no althou im not going to try just wondering
[09:18] <BirthdayHobbsee> what do you even want the site for?
[09:19] <BirthdayHobbsee> the website's whole *purpose* is to exploit machines like that..
[09:19] <stdin> Elite101: there is nothing on the site, it's all just exploits etc
[09:20] <stdin> Elite101: if someone sent you there, they sent you there knowing that it'll be bad for you
[09:21] <Elite101> psp stuff
[09:21] <Elite101> so there is no psp stuff on there
[09:21] <Elite101> okay
[09:21] <Elite101> but my friend was downloading the stuff of it like psp apps and games etc?? is that just all fake
[09:21] <Elite101> my friend is running windows xp
[09:21] <Elite101> exploits for psp like in firmware hacking..
[09:21] <Elite101> thought so
[09:21] <Elite101> but its weird how its only on my machine
[09:21] <Elite101> im now clear of that website now thou
[09:24] <Elite101> so now that, thats over am i free to go to #kubuntu
[09:25] <Elite101> ..
[09:26] <elkbuntu> Elite101, you have been for 10 minutes already, since  BirthdayHobbsee> removed.   if you paste that again though....i wont be putting it down to user error.
[10:44] <Juki> hello
[10:44] <Juki> <DCC SEND from Greatmetal [0.0.0.0 port 0] : startkeylogger [0B bytes]  requested in channel #ubuntu>
[10:45] <Juki> Port sent with DCC request is a lowport (0, unknown) - this isn't normal. It is possible the address/port is faked (or maybe someone is just trying to bypass firewall)>
[10:45] <Juki> Greatmetal (n=greatmet@ip68-230-78-163.ph.ph.cox.net)
[11:33] <elkbuntu> Juki, please never ever repeat exploit lines, or you'll end up banned like the exploiter
[11:42] <Tm_P> :p
[11:42] <Tm_P> funny kids
[11:43] <Tm_P> howdy elkbuntu
[01:14] <Juki> kk, point taken
[05:04] <PriceChild> I think this is a different time to when I asked yesterday... is anyone around who would like to comment on what the CC wants added to the guidelines? (Re: ubuntu-irc ML)
[05:27] <poningru> there is an -irc ml?
[05:34] <elkbuntu> yes
[06:06] <effie_jayx> buenas :D
[06:07] <Pici> hola
[06:54] <PriceChild> argh why does my network drop and lag right before an attack
[06:55] <nalioth> Amaranth: didn't you see me?
[06:55] <Amaranth> no :P
[06:55] <Pici> he showed up a split second before I !opsed
[06:56] <nalioth> having quite a lot of spam attacks on the network today
[07:07] <ikonia> does the ubuntu code of conduct apply to #ubuntu-offtopic too ?
[07:07] <PriceChild> yes
[07:07] <ikonia> thank you
[07:09] <jenda> ikonia: as a good community member, the code of conduct applies to you when talking to people on the street ;)
[07:09] <ikonia> jenda: to be fair thats actually a reasonable comment
[07:09] <jenda> hehe
[07:10] <PriceChild> Grr what's wrong with my router now
[07:10] <elkbuntu> ikonia, you cant go wiping the CoC on every slightly rude thing someone does, or it loses it's effect
[07:10] <ikonia> I agree
[07:10] <jenda> PriceChild: perhaps it has trouble parsing reasonable comments? :)
[07:10] <ikonia> but someone basiclly trolling to a sensible question
[07:10] <ikonia> and saying "I just say this to annoy you" is against the spirit
[07:11] <jenda> ikonia: that's totally against the 'be respectful' clause, innit
[07:11] <ikonia> I think so
[07:11] <ikonia> hence why I queried it
[07:12] <ikonia> I took an off-topic question to #off-topic to not ruin the #ubuntu support channel
[07:12] <ikonia> and I get smart arsed comments back
[07:12] <ikonia> with an intent to proke an argument
[07:12] <ikonia> which worked
[07:12] <ikonia> admitidly I should rise above it
[07:12] <jenda> whee, if it ain't Mr. kbrooks
[07:13] <elkbuntu> ikonia, bringing up the CoC to spite him was in fact very similar to what he did to you, and i think we both know that 'eye for an eye' usually ends up ugly
[07:13] <ikonia> I didn't bring it up to spite him
[07:13] <ikonia> I brought it up to ask him to abide by it
[07:14] <ikonia> telling me not to be offended because its "offtopic" is suggesting that you can say what you want because its -offtopic - which is not the case
[07:15] <ikonia> I try to abide by the coc at all times when dealing with ubuntu as I signed up to the charter.
[07:15] <PriceChild> Anyway thanks for getting our attention of the situation.
[07:15] <ikonia> PriceChild: apologies, it wasn't a request for help, more a clarification
[07:15] <ikonia> he's still in there being facious now
[07:16] <PriceChild> Yes we are aware.
[07:16] <PriceChild> We are watching.
[07:16] <elkbuntu> ikonia, he's merely hyped up with excitement of hearing Mark speak. dont take it too much to heart?
[07:16] <ikonia> thats a weak excuse
[07:17] <elkbuntu> ikonia, it's not an excuse. im merely saying rise above the immaturity and dont lower yourself to the point of bickering with him because he's not worth it
[07:18] <ikonia> understood, I said I should have risen above it
[07:26] <effie_jayx> PriceChild,  ping
[07:26] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  hey elky
[07:27] <elkbuntu> hola effie_jayx :)
[07:27] <PriceChild> Hi effie_jayx
[07:28] <effie_jayx> PriceChild,  could I talk to you for a sec... forum matters
[07:30] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, mi venezolano hermano, como estas?
[07:31] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  muy bien chica del muy abajo
[07:31] <elkbuntu> :)
[07:32] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  duerme bien
[07:32] <nalioth> night, elkbuntu
[08:49] <superm1> Hi guys, we wanted to set up a redirect from #ubuntu-live to #ubuntulive, could someone help?
[08:50] <nalioth> superm1: do you own both channels?
[08:50] <nalioth> superm1: or just #ubuntu-live?
[08:50] <superm1> nalioth, I don't believe either of them are "owned"
[08:50] <superm1> they were just started today
[08:50] <superm1> for the conference
[08:50] <superm1> this next 5 days
[08:51] <nalioth> bear with me, superm1 there are major t-storms in my area right now, and it's playing havoc with my connection
[08:51] <superm1> k
[09:06] <nalioth> superm1: why do you want it to forward from #ubuntu-live to #ubuntulive ?
[09:11] <superm1> nalioth, yes
[09:12] <Amaranth> nalioth: because the event is #ubuntulive
[09:15] <superm1> thx nalioth
[10:57] <Pricey> Hey Burgundavia
[10:57] <Burgundavia> hey Pricey
[12:11] <Daviey> OPS: keep an eye out for  c0rnd0g [i=lance@cpepool1-81.bayoucable.com] 
[12:12] <PriceChild> Daviey, where do i know that nick from?
[12:12] <PriceChild> he spammed/trolled -uk right?
[12:12] <Daviey> PriceChild: he trolled in here a few months ago
[12:12] <Daviey> PriceChild: yeah.. earlier on..
[12:12] <PriceChild> gotcha
[12:12] <Daviey> but he's done it in a few #ubuntu* chans now
[12:13] <rob> Daviey, like, just now?
[12:13] <Daviey> Not right now, no
[12:13] <rob> okay
[12:14] <Daviey> but google & bantraq turned up a few times
[12:14] <Daviey> I'm heading to bed soon, so wanted to pass it on
[12:16] <PriceChild> rob, 19:45 utc+1 today was his incident in -uk
[12:18] <rob> okay, well if he hits multiple channels or becomes a rather big problem, let me know
[12:18] <rob> channel bans should sort him out for now
[12:18] <PriceChild> yup
[12:18] <Daviey> rob: for what it's worth, i've filled an abuse report with his ISP :)
[12:18] <rob> heh
[12:19] <Daviey> school trollidays eh?
[12:19] <rob> just got home from night shift :)