[12:01] <System79> elpepa: thats the location of grub.conf
[12:01] <dystopianray> NigelS: he installed a jdk
[12:01] <abstrakt> hmmm, glx is listed but the driver is still listed as 'nv' and not 'nvidia'
[12:01] <dystopianray> NigelS: so yes, he did already have it
[12:01] <NigelS> mustang97: that's a guide for CentOS
[12:01] <elpepa> System79: did you see what I pasted?
[12:01] <abstrakt> shouldn't the installer have changed that for me? or no...
[12:01] <mustang97> Yes, but you can still use it as a base
[12:01] <mustang97> just change a few commands.
[12:01] <System79> elpepa: Yes i did is that your grub directory? >.>
[12:01] <NigelS> dystopianray: he said he had not installed the rpm and even if he had it wouldn't have auto linked because it didn't know to - hence the whole reason in the first place why the guide was telling him to do it
[12:02] <DARKGuy> Hey, is there a workaround for KDE when you close session with Beryl activated, where the desktop icons get moved and appear in other positions when logging back in? like, it doesn't save the icon positions :(
[12:02] <hexstar> abstrakt: it should have but it may have misguessed the xconf location, you could try changing it yourself but first backup your current xconf
[12:02] <elpepa> System79: ys =S
[12:02] <Civik> stefg, i get error 17 : cannot mount selected partition when i try to boot ubuntu and  error 13: invalid or unsupposed executable format when i try to boot windows
[12:02] <mustang97> I had this setup before.  I had the same issue with jdk and came here last time and got help.    that was few months ago.  forgot what I did to get it to work thoe.
[12:02] <dystopianray> NigelS: he said he installed a jdk from the repos
[12:02] <System79> elpepa: Ah i see it is let me check upon it.
[12:02] <dystopianray> NigelS: he is not supposed to install the rpm
[12:02] <Trashcan> my ISO is verified, why might the installer be saying every package is corrupt?
[12:02] <NigelS> mustang97: in any event, is version 5 of the jdk not enough?
[12:02] <abstrakt> meh, for such a small change i doubt backup is required... i can always boot into recovery mode, but thanks for the suggestion
[12:02] <andrew____> my ipod is mounted and music plays off of it, but I cannot load any. anyone know what to do?
[12:02] <NigelS> dystopianray: yes, no kidding
[12:02] <nikin> is there a way to burn CD-s on the fly over a 256kbit/sec connection.... it does not mather how long it takes...
[12:02] <hexstar> Trashcan: are the packages being installed from the web?
[12:02] <mustang97> first setep is to get jdk 5 installed
[12:02] <compengi> CPF_, if you got a broken package during install this could help "sudo apt-get install -f "
[12:02] <mustang97> I cant get it installed!
[12:02] <x_> ! codec | x
[12:02] <ubotu> x: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:02] <Trashcan> hexstar: that's what i assumed
[12:03] <CPF_> compengi: Thanks, I'll try that.
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> andrew____: what program are you using to sync your IPOD?
[12:03] <hexstar> Trashcan: probably a bad mirror, try again and hopefully it'll select a better one
[12:03] <Trashcan> kk thanks
[12:03] <dystopianray> mustang97: install sun-java5-jdk
[12:03] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar.: ok i know you know... but for my little brain.. you did indeed send me a link to open suse updates!!!
[12:03] <astro76> nikin, definitely not
[12:03] <andrew____> Banshee, I've used a couple different ones though.
[12:03] <NigelS> dystopianray: where did he say he got nit from the repos? I don't see that in the log
[12:03] <hexstar> Trashcan: also make sure all your connections are secure and ok
[12:03] <hexstar> Trashcan: np :)
[12:03] <CPF_> compengi: Still returning the same :(
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> andrew____: hmm, i have no experience w/ Banshee, I use Amarok, and it works quite well.
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> so does Rhythmbox
[12:03] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: Yes I know the package comes with suse, it should still work though
[12:04] <dystopianray> NigelS: I don't want to scroll up, so I don't know
[12:04] <nikin> astro76: :( so buffer underrun will kill the CD ?
[12:04] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: that seems to be the only alternative short of compiling from source
[12:04] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ok
[12:04] <mustang97> omg..   I said I already have!
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> andrew____: have you tried amarok?
[12:04] <JayRoe> how do I found out what a display name is?
[12:04] <NigelS> mustang97: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[12:04] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ty again...
[12:04] <andrew____> I tried gtkpod and rhthymbox to load it.
[12:04] <hexstar> mustang97: be patient, this is free support
[12:04] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: np :)
[12:04] <compengi> CPF_, do you have synaptic opened?
[12:04] <DARKGuy> Hey, is there a workaround for KDE when you close session with Beryl activated, where the desktop icons get moved and appear in other positions when logging back in? like, it doesn't save the icon positions :(
[12:04] <andrew____> Hmm, I can't remember I'll try.
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> andrew____: i didn't have much luck w/ gtkpod, and rhythmbox is a bit of a pain, but amarok is pretty easy
[12:04] <andrew____> I'll be back in a second.
[12:04] <dystopianray> mustang97: if you have installed the jdk, then /usr/bin/java should exist
[12:05] <stefg> Civik: hmmm... this is a bios/acpi issue. the bios seems to be too clever in determining from where to boot. Since i can't look at your bios, you're probably better off with http://freshmeat.net/projects/supergrub/ and see if this can get t your grub fixed
[12:05] <dystopianray> mustang97: and from your instructions, that should be sufficient
[12:05] <CPF_> compengi: I have now...
[12:05] <hexstar> DarkGuy: sounds like there's seperate icon position settings for beryl and kde
[12:05] <NigelS> mustang97: you keep contradicting yourself you say it's not instaled and then say you already have it..
[12:05] <compengi> CPF_, then close it and try that command
[12:05] <mustang97>  lol..   no I dont..  your not listening.
[12:05] <elpepa> System79: I really think grub.conf was replaced by menu.lst or something like that
[12:05] <NigelS> mustang97: I have re-read the log of what you said
[12:05] <DARKGuy> hexstar: o.o.. that's weird, Beryl isn't suppossed to store that... or does it? =/ dangit
[12:05] <CPF_> compengi: I tried that command with synaptic closed...
[12:05] <mustang97> the jdk your saying I hae done.  the one I am trying to do is NOT
[12:05] <System79> elpepa: Im looking it up..
[12:05] <Civik> stefg, so just download that a burn it to cd?
[12:05] <mustang97> Read again
[12:05] <stefg> Civik: right
[12:05] <hexstar> DARKGuy: I think it does
[12:06] <CPF_> I'll go to some pastebin, and paste the error there, you'll see what I mean :)
[12:06] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: i bet you can guess my next question.. haha
[12:06] <hexstar> Beryl is a graphical manager just like KDE is
[12:06] <stefg> Civik: and read the docu, of course
[12:06] <dystopianray> mustang97: install sun-java5-jdk, then you will have /usr/bin/java
[12:06] <DARKGuy> hexstar: oh... you know how to fix it?
[12:06] <mustang97> I said I am trying to installed  jdk-1_5_0_11-linux-i586-rpm.bin   as in chmod u+x jdk-1_5_0_11-linux-i586-rpm.bin   ./jdk-1_5_0_11-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[12:06] <NigelS> mustang97: YOU said you had it, not us.  update-alternatives --config java lets you choose the version you want to use
[12:06] <mustang97> NOT a freaking apt-get sun-java5-jdk
[12:06] <compengi> !paste | CPF_
[12:06] <ubotu> CPF_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:06] <NigelS> mustang97: and we TOLD YOU to stop it
[12:06] <hexstar> DARKGuy: not really other then doing the same positions manually for both kde and beryl
[12:06] <sodani_> can someone tell me the command for stopping httpd?
[12:06] <dystopianray> mustang97: do not install the rpm, install it from the repos
[12:06] <erUSUL> !java | mustang97
[12:06] <System79> elpepa: Please pastebin your menu.lst
[12:06] <ubotu> mustang97: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:06] <mustang97> the repos wont work!
[12:06] <mustang97> I have read that site it is bs
[12:07] <System79> elpepa: Its indeed replaced
[12:07] <CPF_> Lol, do I have to use that one?
[12:07] <dystopianray> mustang97: pastebin any errors you get
[12:07] <hexstar> sodani_: /etc/init.d/httpd stop
[12:07] <NigelS> mustang97: then give us the specific error for why they wont work
[12:07] <compengi> CPF_, nope ;)
[12:07] <CPF_> compengi: http://pastebin.com/m661c75e1
[12:07] <sodani_> hexstar: I don't have httpd in that folder
[12:07] <DARKGuy> hexstar: I dunno how would I do such for Beryl
[12:07] <elpepa> !paste
[12:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:08] <hexstar> sodani_: what about /etc/init.d/apache stop
[12:08] <sodani_> I don't have /sbin/service either
[12:08] <sodani_> hexstar: nope
[12:08] <mustang97> sun-java5-jdk is already the newest version.
[12:08] <NETWizz> My friend cannot get out of the gui
[12:08] <mustang97>   Selection    Alternative
[12:08] <mustang97> -----------------------------------------------
[12:08] <mustang97>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[12:08] <mustang97> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[12:08] <mustang97>       3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[12:08] <NETWizz> how can he get to the prompt
[12:08] <mustang97>       4        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[12:08] <NETWizz> and actually get out of gui
[12:08] <sodani_> and I know I have apache because httpd shows up when I type in ps -A
[12:09] <mustang97> its installed yet no selection.
[12:09] <hexstar> sodani_: well you could always do killall httpd ...it seems like the init scripts never got installed
[12:09] <compengi> !paste | mustang97
[12:09] <ubotu> mustang97: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:09] <Trashcan> hexstar: THANKS man, its working great now!
[12:09] <Trashcan> props to hexstr
[12:09] <hexstar> Trashcan: np :)
[12:09] <lineman60> whats the command ot see the list of pacages in stall on a box
[12:09] <Trashcan> s/hexstr/hexstar
[12:09] <EADG_> NETWizz: ctrl+alt+F1-F6  alt+F7 to get back to gui
[12:09] <elpepa> System79: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30727/plain/
[12:09] <hexstar> DARKGuy: well what I'd do is manually arrange the icons when logged in with Beryl, log out and do the same for KDX. I know it's not that fun but I'm not sure what else to do
[12:09] <NETWizz> He needs to actually unload xorg
[12:09] <lee> how do i set my .bashrc to display on the directory i'm in at the prompt instead of the whole path?
[12:09] <NETWizz> he is installing the nvidia driver
[12:09] <compengi> CPF_, i don't see anything of what you posted
[12:09] <erUSUL> mustang97: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:09] <hexstar> lineman60: you can do that with synaptic
[12:09] <mustang97> I just did
[12:10] <NigelS> mustang97: you've currently got the gcj set to be your vm, you almost certainly don't want that - choose the sun java one that you want
[12:10] <mustang97> I pasted it!!!!!!
[12:10] <Civik> stefg,  brb
[12:10] <NETWizz> but for some reason /etc/init.d/gdm stop just restarts the gdm
[12:10] <NETWizz> any idea
[12:10] <mustang97> I need jdk
[12:10] <DARKGuy> hexstar: okay... I could do that, no problem for me - do you know how to?
[12:10] <System79> elpepa: What is the partition windows XP is running on?
[12:10] <mustang97> I dont see a selection for it
[12:10] <sodani_> hexstar: any idea what would cause the init scripts to not get installed? I just set up this server...
[12:10] <hexstar> NETWizz: killall gdm
[12:10] <lineman60> hexstar not with apt?
[12:10] <erUSUL> mustang97: so choose the number 4 or 3...
[12:10] <elpepa> System79: it's actually on a separate HD
[12:10] <mustang97> those are jre
[12:10] <mustang97> I need jdk
[12:10] <lineman60> i know you can i just dont rember the command
[12:10] <System79> elpepa: Thats even handier :p
[12:10] <hexstar> sodani_: I'm not sure, the best I could think of is if you did it by source and missed that step or if you used a non ubuntu package
[12:10] <CPF_> compengi: http://pastebin.com/m661c75e1 Should do it... :-/
[12:10] <elpepa> System79: I think it would be hda1
[12:11] <erUSUL> mustang97: have you actually tried to run the java compiler?
[12:11] <sodani_> hexstar: yeah I did do it by source. damn. okay thx
[12:11] <hexstar> lineman60: dpkg --get-selections
[12:11] <IndyGunFreak> andrew____: did you get it working?
[12:11] <elpepa> System79: I thought that too, but my problem is that when trying to install WinXP, it writes on its own HD's MBR
[12:11] <erUSUL> mustang97: after you choose the right jre to run the javac on
[12:11] <hexstar> sodani_: np, you probably missed something somewhere unfortunately :(
[12:11] <SlickMcRunfast> Why is it that the fourms gain ~400 members per. day, but the irc gains nothing?
[12:12] <hexstar> SlickMcRunfast: what are you talking about?
[12:12] <SlickMcRunfast> great now i have to go look up the article
[12:12] <mustang97> Correct me if I am wrong but jre is NOT the same as jdk?
[12:12] <SlickMcRunfast> ahhh
[12:12] <vox754> mustang97, are you on Ubuntu 6.10 or 7.04?
[12:12] <System79> elpepa: You must install windows XP seeing as it wont harm your ubuntu installation, just let it go and make sure you get the right hard disk (if you have bad eyes :p) Then reinstall grub from the live-cd
[12:12] <stefg> Civik: so i think it got somthing to do with the bios swapping drives around at boot.  it boots from the small hd, but somehow the big one becomes hd0 in the process. so the swap boot drive features of the super grub disk will help you find that out
[12:12] <mustang97> older 6.06
[12:13] <SlickMcRunfast> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=505228
[12:13] <mustang97> havent upgraded in a while
[12:13] <IndyGunFreak> mustang97: why don't yu upgrade?
[12:13] <sodani_> I'm on dapper. can someone confirm that apache 2.2 needs to be installed from source?
[12:13] <erUSUL> mustang97: yes but the jdk has to run on a jre so if you install a jdk you get the jre plus the development programs that need a jre to run on
[12:13] <System79> elpepa: Then it comes to editing your grub configuration to start windows XP, but i've already done that for you here ;)
[12:13] <odat> anyone know anything about banshee?
[12:13] <lineman60> hexstar thanks that was it
[12:13] <Wodger> irc only shows online folk formums all that have joined ever...
[12:13] <compengi> CPF_, well i have no idea about that issue, but i surely know that during install if a package is interrupted or failed running "apt-get install -f" would fix the problem. try to ask someone that has a clear view about this issue
[12:13] <hexstar> lineman60: np :)
[12:13] <elpepa> System79: I tried that, but after WinXP installer copies all files, it performs a reboot in order to continue with the installation, running from the HD. At that point, my computer just won't boot sh1t
[12:14] <AfterDeath> Is Ubuntu-ppc/powerpc still supported / developed ?
[12:14] <erUSUL> odat: it is a mp3 player written in C# that runs on mono similar to itunes
[12:14] <vadiml1024> vadiml1024
[12:14] <System79> elpepa: Does it come up with any error message at all?
[12:14] <IndyGunFreak> AfterDeath: i don't think so, Edgy was it.
[12:14] <NigelS> mustang97: the jre is what you want, the jdk elements are still present of course
[12:14] <SlickMcRunfast> Wodger: still the irc hovers around 1000 - 1100 for the past few months
[12:14] <odat> erUSUL, i can't seem to get the radio stations working
[12:14] <CPF_> compengi: Can you refresh?
[12:14] <SlickMcRunfast> since i have been watching
[12:14] <hexstar> AfterDeath: for ppc macs I recommend yellowdoglinux.com
[12:14] <nadu> hey guys i got a question: so i put in my osx drive into ubuntu and it auto mounted
[12:14] <NigelS> mustang97: you don't run java code with a special VM for having the JDK, the dev tools of the JDK are still there
[12:14] <nadu> but i cant get into protected folders like my user
[12:14] <elpepa> I thought I might just disconnect my Ubuntu HD, install windoze, and after that POS is installed, re-connect my Ubuntu HD and repair Grub
[12:14] <nadu> so how exactly do i do that
[12:14] <erUSUL> odat: i do not use it (rhythmbox )
[12:15] <dystopianray> AfterDeath: ppc isn't officially supported anymore
[12:15] <hexstar> nadu: you have to be root
[12:15] <IndyGunFreak> AfterDeath: im pretty sure Mepis also has a PPC client, and Mepis is more or less Ubuntu with a Root account instead of Sudo
[12:15] <compengi> CPF_, after you pasted the last link i saw your post but i have no idea of that issue
[12:15] <vox754> mustang97, well, unless you are using backports there is no way to get the newest Java because they are not available for 6.06 repositories.
[12:15] <nickrud> sodani_, according to packages.ubuntu.com, dapper has 2.0.55
[12:15] <hexstar> yellowdoglinux.com :D
[12:15] <hexstar> best ppc distro :D
[12:15] <Benni> is this the support chanel?
[12:15] <System79> elpepa: But it does install windows right it doesnt start it, right?
[12:15] <elpepa> but, that's something I didn't want to do, just because I like doing things the right way :P
[12:15] <vadiml1024> vadiml1024
[12:15] <AfterDeath> hrm, darn :|
[12:15] <ghost--> .undernet.org
[12:15] <CPF_> compengi: Refresh, I've viewed the whole command, and the result of it...
[12:15] <nickrud> Benni, yes
[12:15] <mustang97> LOL   okay vox..  speaking I had this working a few months ago.
[12:15] <Benni> ok
[12:16] <Benni> ill wait thill u guys are finished
[12:16] <JayRoe> How do I run a script on display 0.1?
[12:16] <hexstar> doesn't java.com have an official java install package?
[12:16] <NigelS> mustang97: have you chosen the sun java option in update-alternatives yet?
[12:16] <nadu> so how do i access the drive as root
[12:16] <System79> elpepa: If there are no errors when installing, you should be able to start the live-cd of ubuntu, and type in mount /dev/hda1
[12:16] <elpepa> System79: it actually doesn't end the installation. It finishes the first part, the "copy files" section, but then it won't continue because it can't boot
[12:16] <hexstar> in terminal su, then cd to wherever
[12:16] <nickrud> lol, Benni it's always like this. Ask your question
[12:16] <nadu> im doing it through nautilus....so how would i get it through cl
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> AfterDeath: oops, maybe not, i thought mepis supported PPC
[12:16] <hexstar> yellowdoglinux.com :)
[12:16] <dystopianray> hexstar: it's in the repos you don't need to get it from java.com
[12:16] <hexstar> dystopianray: ok
[12:16] <System79> elpepa: That sounds like an error on microsofts side :/ theres no error message at all? nothing like SYSTEM BOOT FAILURE or whatever? ;x
[12:17] <mustang97> fuck this..  I will just wait till monday and asking someone who knows what the fuck I am asking for and knows what they are taking about.    A little advise.   If someone asks for help.  listen to what the fuck they are trying to do and dont start suggesting YOUR fucking recommendations.
[12:17] <NigelS> what an utter moron
[12:17] <System79> Hes just stupid
[12:17] <System79> ;)
[12:17] <NigelS> all he had to do was press the number 4 button and it would be ok
[12:17] <dystopianray> agreed
[12:17] <elpepa> System79: no, no error, just the blinking cursor
[12:17] <NigelS> he thinks the JDK will run his code
[12:17] <nadu> how do i access the drive as root hexstrar
[12:17] <nadu> hexstar*
[12:18] <Benni> does ubuntu support laptops fully?
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> AfterDeath: here's your answer, if you can do it on Ubuntu, you can do it on Debian(as Ubuntu is based on Debian)...  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/#netinst-stable
[12:18] <hexstar> nadu: in terminal do su, then cd wherever
[12:18] <elpepa> System79: the fact is that this sh1t breaks my Ubuntu booting system, no news at all, I know
[12:18] <NigelS> so was trying to use the GCJ to run code it couldn't
[12:18] <nadu> still says access denied
[12:18] <System79> elpepa: Ubuntu is easy to fix, too bad windows isnt
[12:18] <dystopianray> Benni: it has support for laptops, yes
[12:18] <CPF_> Benni: No. Not all laptops are supported...
[12:18] <elpepa> I've been dual booting since Red hat 6.2, I always knew I should install Linux at the last
[12:18] <Benni> o
[12:18] <stefg> Benni: only some of them
[12:18] <nadu> wait hexstar
[12:18] <Benni> o
[12:18] <nickrud> Benni, I was absolutely amazed, my gateway every single thing worked: I had to do a little for wireless
[12:18] <hexstar> nadu: ?
[12:18] <nadu> i do su and my pass is wrong
[12:18] <CPF_> Benni: But, still best laptop support available :p
[12:18] <hexstar> nadu: ah
[12:18] <elpepa> sadly this time I can't choose
[12:18] <nadu> what is hte default pass for su
[12:19] <hexstar> nadu: it needs to be right for it to work ...are you on the live cd?
[12:19] <nadu> its a fresh install of ubuntu
[12:19] <System79> elpepa: I think you might do what you said, and disconnect your ubuntu drive and reconnect later
[12:19] <dystopianray> Benni: it depends on the particular laptop, some work well, some don't work well
[12:19] <hexstar> nadu: oh, I think it's root
[12:19] <Flannel> nadu: There is none.  Ubuntu doesn't use the root account. Use sudo instead
[12:19] <nadu> k
[12:19] <System79> elpepa: Then start from the live-cd and fix up grub
[12:19] <hexstar> oh
[12:19] <JayRoe> can someone tell me how I tell ubuntu to run a script a terminal?
[12:19] <astro76> hexstar, it would be best not to recommend su as root is not enabled in ubuntu, use sudo
[12:19] <nadu> hexstar: nope
[12:19] <abstrakt> hey, where does the nvidia-config app put that backup?
[12:19] <Benni> well mine wont even boot up! ive used DSL linux, but i needed to use the argument: expert nopcmc\ia
[12:19] <System79> elpepa: I have made a dual boot grub config for you i got it right here
[12:19] <elpepa> yes, I'll do that, then fix the grub, then add WinXP to Grub
[12:19] <hexstar> astro76: ok
[12:19] <nadu> astro76: when i try and do sudo cd it wont work
[12:19] <abstrakt> i remember seeing the msg but i forgot where it said it went
[12:19] <dystopianray> JayRoe: how do you run a script in a terminal?
[12:19] <elpepa> hehe you're gr8 man
[12:19] <abstrakt> this is just fuckin retarded though, seriously, why tf can't they get it right?
[12:19] <JayRoe> dystopianray, with sh.
[12:19] <BoBothn> Ok i ran the game using "aoss wolfsp" and i heard sound but it was extremely choppy and i can make out what is going on
[12:20] <CPF_> abstrakt: /etc/X/xorg.conf[something with backup] 
[12:20] <Flannel> nadu: that's because `sudo cd` is silly.  You'll change directories and then return to your regular shell, unchanged.  If you want a root shell, use `sudo -i`
[12:20] <compengi> JayRoe, a .sh script?
[12:20] <abstrakt> CPF_: hmm, i looked there
[12:20] <CPF_> */etc/X11/
[12:20] <CPF_> xD
[12:20] <astro76> nadu, what are you trying to do?
[12:20] <dystopianray> JayRoe: make sure it has execute permissions and then $ ./blah
[12:20] <abstrakt> CPF_: it's not there
[12:20] <nadu> im trying to access a User folder on my osx86 drive
[12:20] <abstrakt> i swear it was a different folder
[12:20] <CPF_> Than it didn't backup :-/
[12:20] <BoBothn> System79 i ran the game using "aoss wolfsp" and i heard sound but it was extremely choppy and i can make out what is going on
[12:20] <JayRoe> compengi. Yeh, I want to move the cursor to the center of the second screen
[12:20] <abstrakt> aw fuck
[12:20] <dystopianray> Bobothn: does the game support alsa at all?
[12:20] <CPF_> abstrakt: Try the ~ thigns...
[12:20] <hexstar> !ohmy | abstrakt
[12:20] <ubotu> abstrakt: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:21] <CPF_> *things xD
[12:21] <System79> BoBothn: What sound card do you have?
[12:21] <abstrakt> CPF_: 0.o ?
[12:21] <JayRoe> dystopianray, could you explain it in a little more details?
[12:21] <nadu> Flannel: you genius
[12:21] <abstrakt> CPF_: you mean look in my home folder?
[12:21] <nadu> it worked
[12:21] <BoBothn> Built in to my mobo a realtek
[12:21] <elpepa> System79: it came empty
[12:21] <CPF_> abstrakt: Do you have any files with ~ in the filename on the /etc/X11 dir?
[12:21] <vox754> damn! where are the mods? Things are heated here today.
[12:21] <elpepa> System79: can you pastebin it?
[12:21] <System79> elpepa: ill pastebin it
[12:21] <abstrakt> CPF_: no
[12:21] <System79> !paste
[12:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:21] <Littlegator> When I try to install, it says there is no root file system. I have "/" assigned to a 4GB partition, "swap" assigned to a 1GB partition, and "/media/hda2" assigned to a 33GB partition...
[12:21] <elpepa> haha no one ever remembers that url
[12:22] <dystopianray> JayRoe: ok assuming the file is named 'blah' and is in your home directory: '$ chmox +x blah', then '$ ./blah'
[12:22] <CPF_> abstrakt: Ok, try cd'ing to your root, and sudo find | grep xorg.conf
[12:22] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I make feisty show a specific icon instead of a blank white one for a specific file type, for example jar file type?
[12:22] <BoBothn> dystopianray, how do you tell if it suports alsa?
[12:22] <hexstar> Littlegator: what format did you assign to /?
[12:22] <Benni> does ubuntu have cheatcodes, kinda lke knoppix?
[12:22] <Littlegator> hexstar: it's ext3
[12:22] <compengi> JayRoe, make your .sh file executed by chmod +x file.sh then ./file.sh
[12:22] <JayRoe> dystopianray, I forgot to mention, that I'd like it to run it in a new terminal.
[12:22] <CPF_> Benni: cheatcodes?
[12:22] <hexstar> Littlegator: should work..
[12:22] <dystopianray> Bobothn: check it's documentation
[12:22] <Benni> o
[12:22] <Benni> i guess not...
[12:22] <Littlegator> hexstar: Yeah, that's what I don't get...
[12:22] <Benni> crap
[12:23] <hexstar> Littlegator: is the drive formatted with no existing partitions?
[12:23] <System79> elpepa: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30729/
[12:23] <abstrakt> wow, this is just... i'm rather speechless... i guess i shouldn't be surprised... but i thought maybe Ubuntu wasn't going to suck
[12:23] <JayRoe> compengi, what is the difference between sh and ./?
[12:23] <dystopianray> JayRoe: if you click on the script you should be able to have it start in a new terminal
[12:23] <System79> abstrakt: ubuntu doesnt suck if you have any idea how linux works
[12:23] <abstrakt> how do i "restart gdm"
[12:23] <Littlegator> hexstar: all of these are on the same drive, and they're all different partitions
[12:23] <CPF_> abstrakt: What do you mean?
[12:23] <abstrakt> System79: oh spare me, please
[12:23] <CPF_> With that suck thing?
[12:23] <JayRoe> dystopianray, what if I want to start the script from another terminal?
[12:23] <hexstar> Littlegator: do you possibly have other linux partitions on teh drive?
[12:23] <dystopianray> abstrakt: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:23] <abstrakt> System79: i've got a VERY good idea how linux works man, i used *nix on my desktop for about 5 years
[12:23] <chowmeined> abstrakt: ctrl + alt + backspace
[12:23] <elpepa> System79: thanks amigo
[12:23] <CPF_> At any rate -> CRTL + ALT + BACKSPACE is the fastest solution... xD
[12:23] <Benni> how do you boot up without the pcmcia hardware?
[12:23] <abstrakt> dystopianray: k thanks
[12:24] <Littlegator> hexstar: no
[12:24] <System79> elpepa: np
[12:24] <jamierc> anyone help me with a list of advantages ubutnu has over other linux distros, for an article Im writing? (genuine request)
[12:24] <Benni> like before knoppix boots
[12:24] <abstrakt> chowmeined: that doesn't work if the xserver isn't running
[12:24] <chowmeined> abstrakt: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:24] <System79> abstrakt: what is your problem then?
[12:24] <hexstar> Littlegator: ah sorry, no clue. Haven't encountered that myself...that really should work..
[12:24] <dystopianray> JayRoe: i'm not sure exactly what you want to do
[12:24] <hexstar> abstrakt: killall gdm!!
[12:24] <CPF_> Than try start instead of restart?
[12:24] <dystopianray> JayRoe: just open another terminal and run the script
[12:24] <System79> abstrakt: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:24] <System79> abstrakt: easy as that
[12:24] <hexstar> killalll gdm
[12:25] <elpepa> abstrakt: 5 years using nix on your desktop? You should know by now how to search for "restart gdm" without going into irc
[12:25] <System79> hexstar: also possible =x
[12:25] <abstrakt> System79: yes they already told me, thanks
[12:25] <Benni> coyas
[12:25] <System79> abstrakt: no problem =/
[12:25] <abstrakt> elpepa: whatever man, i haven't used *nix for about a year now
[12:25] <stefg> jamierc: don't you think a simple google search will turn up more sensible results? Just look around .... if you want some marketing hype join #ubuntu-marketing
[12:25] <JayRoe> dystopianray, I'm trying to move my cursor to the center of the second screen with "xwit -warp 50 50". But xwit only move the cursor to the screen that ran "xwit -warp 50 50"
[12:25] <System79> hexstar: wow helping people is fun =P
[12:25] <abstrakt> elpepa: you should realize that people don't remember everything all the time and that IRC is faster than dealing with lynx
[12:25] <hexstar> System79: lol
[12:25] <elpepa> ok next time try not say ubuntu sucks in a ubuntu channel
[12:26] <abstrakt> ubuntu sucks
[12:26] <abstrakt> whoops
[12:26] <Ronald> Hi!
[12:26] <x_> i need some help   ... why i have sound just in start up not later ?! ... i using Creative audiogy zs plutonium pro .
[12:26] <hexstar> lol
[12:26] <nadu> alright guys one more thing
[12:26] <nadu> how do i mount a bin cue file
[12:26] <compengi> JayRoe, ./ is a direct execute command for any executed file
[12:26] <Madsy> x_: "Plutonium" ?
[12:26] <Littlegator> Abstrakt, what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:26] <elpepa> oooh!! You're really an internet big time
[12:26] <System79> nadu: mountiso if im right
[12:26] <hexstar> nadu: you're going to have to use toast for that
[12:26] <abstrakt> Littlegator: install nvidia drivers
[12:26] <nadu> nah im in ubuntu
[12:26] <nadu> no toast
[12:26] <hexstar> nadu: or actually k3b
[12:26] <Ronald> procmail problem: Executed from cron through dspam. Procmail uses the euid for setting the permissiins: procmail: Assigning "ID=uid=8(mail) gid=8(mail) euid=0(root) groups=8(mail)"
[12:26] <x_> masty .. i'm not sure about spell   ;-)
[12:26] <nadu> k
[12:26] <abstrakt> Littlegator: i used synaptic to install nvidia-glx-new
[12:26] <dystopianray> JayRoe: oh, are the screens running separate X servers?
[12:26] <Ronald> I need mail:mail
[12:27] <jamierc> stefg> googling ubuntu is a nightmare, doesnt bring up anything useful
[12:27] <JayRoe> compengi, sh isn't?
[12:27] <Littlegator> abstrakt: and you're too computer-illiterate to install them properly, so it sucks?
[12:27] <abstrakt> Littlegator: and ran the nvidia-config command to install said module into X
[12:27] <System79> hexstar: i thought there was a program in ubuntu called mountiso
[12:27] <JayRoe> dystopianray, yes I've set up a HTPC with mythtv on the tv-out
[12:27] <x_> Madsy sorry dude ... i'm not sure about spell check
[12:27] <Littlegator> abstrakt: gb2/windows/
[12:27] <hexstar> and abstrakt scolded me saying he wasn't a n00b..
[12:27] <abstrakt> Littlegator: hahahahaha, good one, thanks for the insult, got any actual help to offer?
[12:27] <hexstar> System79: yeah, but isn't a cue file different from a iso?
[12:27] <abstrakt> Littlegator: dude i followed the instructions it gave me. it should work. i don't need to proove my computer literacy to you
[12:27] <hexstar> maybe it'll work with mountiso...never tried
[12:27] <dystopianray> JayRoe: ok, so if the second display is :1 then.... $ DISPLAY=":1" blah
[12:28] <compengi> JayRoe, try man sh
[12:28] <System79> hexstar: a cue file is usually linked to a .bin or .iso or .img file.
[12:28] <astro76> !loopback | nadu
[12:28] <ubotu> nadu: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:28] <hexstar> abstrakt: don't worry, ew know you don't have any
[12:28] <Littlegator> abstrakt, instead of complaining, how about asking for help?
[12:28] <hexstar> system79: true
[12:28] <abstrakt> Littlegator: 2 problems, X should find a valid screen, and my old xorg.conf should be backed up somewhere but apparently the nvidia-config utility didn't do that
[12:28] <abstrakt> Littlegator: i did already
[12:28] <abstrakt> hexstar: you get ye ol' ignore thanks
[12:28] <JayRoe> dystopianray I tried that, but it didn't work as the script ran in the same terminal
[12:28] <Madsy> x_: I didn't fix your spelling. I just found it weird that a soundcard is named Plutonium :)
[12:28] <System79> abstrakt: i had the same problem as u a while ago.
[12:28] <hexstar> abstrakt: you're welcome :)
[12:29] <abstrakt> System79: hey! there we go
[12:29] <abstrakt> i'm not just a tard
[12:29] <akos> hello! glxinfo says i don't have direct rendering enabled... why is that? i have the binary nvidia drivers installed.....
[12:29] <CPF_> abstrakt: Try and fix it yourself? -> sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:29] <CPF_> Shouldn't be to hard.
[12:29] <CPF_> *too
[12:29] <x_> how i can install sound card drivers ?!  i using Creative audiogy zs plotonium pro ... i have sound just in startup   not more
[12:29] <JayRoe> dystopianray, xwit has a "-display" option, but I haven't been able to get it to work
[12:29] <dystopianray> abstrakt: if your xorg.conf is broken try generating a fresh one
[12:29] <nadu> so how exactly do i use k3b to mount the bin cue
[12:29] <abstrakt> CPF_: dude, i'm already a step ahead of you man
[12:29] <System79> CPF_ the nvidia utils mess up your stuff >.>
[12:29] <CPF_> Syste
[12:29] <abstrakt> dystopianray: yeah i guess i could do that, what's that command again, xf86config or something?
[12:29] <hexstar> nadu: http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/2699
[12:29] <abstrakt> xorgconfig?
[12:29] <CPF_> System79: Not really, have not had any problem atm with it...
[12:29] <nadu> ty
[12:30] <astro76> nadu, read the link ubotu gave you, at his information on converting to iso, then you can follow ubotu's advice about mounting an iso
[12:30] <hexstar> nadu: np :)
[12:30] <dystopianray> abstrakt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:30] <System79> abstrakt: boot up your live cd open a terminal and type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /media/hda/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:30] <CPF_> System79: I'm running a proud 2-monitor 2-Xserver config atm...
[12:30] <x_> MADSY ... what's different between plotonium or plutonium ?!!!   it's look same too me  :-)
[12:30] <hexstar> abstrakt: I told you already get the working xconf off the live cd ramdisk!
[12:30] <abstrakt> Littlegator: yes, i *could* have downloaded the nvidia drivers manually and installed kernel headers and compiled the nvidia drivers against them
[12:30] <NETWizz> anyone ever hear of secon dlife
[12:30] <hexstar> abstrakt: you don't listen...
[12:30] <abstrakt> Littlegator: but i didn't wanna do that, i wanted to have faith in Ubuntu's package management system
[12:30] <hexstar> NETWizz: yes
[12:30] <dystopianray> NETWizz: yes
[12:30] <System79> CPF_: The drivers from the NVIDIA site mess your xorg.conf up badly
[12:30] <hexstar> NETWizz: apparently some companies are doing job interviews on there :o
[12:30] <abstrakt> System79: ahhh good idea
[12:30] <CPF_> System79: Like how?
[12:30] <System79> CPF_: It adds two methods that are not supported
[12:31] <CPF_> System79: Which ones? and I didn't download them from the site, but from aptitude.
[12:31] <System79> CPF_: And it changes things in the config which does not allow X to start because of an module error >.>
[12:31] <Madsy> x_: Okay, I didn't _mean_ to fix your spelling ;)
[12:31] <stefg> jamierc: how about this for a copy and paste job ? :-) http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/desktopedition
[12:31] <System79> CPF_: Then your allright ;x
[12:31] <abstrakt> Littlegator: but, much to my chagrin, it sucked! and now i'm stuck without X after i did nothing but what a "good n00b" should do, which is follow instructions directly and Ubuntu's nvidia packages fucked up my config for me... thanks for not sucking Ubuntu
[12:31] <x_> Madsy .. r u from europe ?!  your nice name look like from scandinavian or germani  ;-)
[12:32] <CPF_> System79: that's why ubuntu aptitude exists, I guess xD
[12:32] <System79> abstrakt: Go do what i told you if you want to fix it ;)
[12:32] <Madsy> x_: Norway.
[12:32] <abstrakt> System79: yeh i will thanks
[12:32] <hexstar> abstrakt: if you listened to me...
[12:32] <x_> Madsy ... comeoooonnn your cool ;-)
[12:32] <Madsy> My first name is Mads.
[12:32] <abstrakt> System79: can i just pop the cd in and mount it and get the files off there or do i really need to boot into the LiveCD?
[12:32] <JayRoe> dystopianray I have a script that mounts some network shares before it starts mythtv. What should I add to the script in order to make it run the script 'movecursor' on my tv-out?
[12:32] <x_> Madsy .. i mean u r joke .. ok ... that's it  ;-)  hehehe  :D
[12:32] <abstrakt> System79: is there a version of said xorg.conf i could just wget from somewhere?
[12:32] <System79> abstrakt: you need to boot with the live cd if you want a proper config
[12:32] <hexstar> abstrakt: that was suggested by me
[12:32] <hexstar> abstrakt: you have to boot the live cd
[12:32] <System79> abstrakt: I could upload mine for you at pastebin
[12:33] <dystopianray> JayRoe: why aren't you mounting the shares in /etc/fstab ?
[12:33] <abstrakt> System79: ahhh right, yeah i suppose then it'll put the appropriate settings in there from what it autodetects on my hardware
[12:33] <System79> abstrakt: Ill upload my config to pastebin ;)
[12:33] <abstrakt> System79: not that it really matters, cuz the device names don't mean jack, but still
[12:33] <abstrakt> System79: no that's cool man i'll just boot the livecd
[12:33] <System79> abstrakt: Ok :p
[12:33] <abstrakt> latz
[12:33] <System79> Hah, always works
[12:33] <System79> =)
[12:33] <JayRoe> dystopianray, they are mounted in /etc/fstab/. But I added noauto, because otherwise ubuntu would hang while looking for them on boot.
[12:34] <x_> round 3 .... 3th round   ..... i need help about installing my sound card drivers ... who can help me ?!
[12:34] <dystopianray> JayRoe: where is 'movecusor' located on your filesystem?
[12:34] <System79> x_: What soundcard do you have
[12:34] <hexstar> funny how abstrakt wouldn't do it when I said it but did it when system79 suggested it...:P
[12:34] <jamierc> Stefg: thanks for the link, but nothing new really. I need to be able to say why ubuntu has become the distro of choice for many rookies, what it has that other distros dont.
[12:34] <NETWizz> Neautrasweet kills ants
[12:34] <NETWizz> aspartame
[12:34] <x_> system79   creative audiogy zs plotonium pro
[12:34] <NETWizz> serriously
[12:34] <JayRoe> dystopianray, same folder as my startmyth script. ~/.mythtv/
[12:34] <hexstar> NETWizz: lol
[12:34] <dystopianray> JayRoe: then just add ./movecusor to the startup script
[12:34] <System79> x_: Geez cant creative make normal names anymore o.o
[12:35] <YossarianFan> ._.
[12:35] <System79> x_: Anyway, have you been to creative website?
[12:35] <x_> system79  ... lol ... yeah .. i'm agree with u  :-)
[12:35] <System79> x_: There is supposed to be a driver database there
[12:35] <dystopianray> System79: for windows...
[12:35] <YossarianFan> *sighs*
[12:35] <JayRoe> dystopianray, that will only move the cursor relative to the first monitor. I need to make the script open a new terminal to run the script.
[12:36] <dystopianray> JayRoe: why does it need a new terminal?
[12:36] <x_> system79   yeah .. dosen't worked
[12:36] <System79> x_: im searching for you ;)
[12:36] <YossarianFan> I don't understand how to install anything. ;_; I really don't want to have to go back to WIndows. So much drama. >_>
[12:36] <taime1> when using the restricted drivers manager to install my nvidia driver, i dont have the configuration tool that normally comes with the nvidia driver, does anyone know where i can get this tool?
[12:36] <hexstar> YossarianFan: what do you need help installing?
[12:36] <x_> system 79 ... thanks friend ... model is : audiogy 2 zs plotonium pro
[12:36] <YossarianFan> Oh, everything. :)
[12:36] <Vipio> hi
[12:36] <dystopianray> x_: is it a pcmcia card?
[12:36] <hexstar> YossarianFan: ok, name one thing
[12:36] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: you will need to be much more specific
[12:36] <JayRoe> dystopianray, because if I know the command to run the script in a new terminal, I can insert DISPLAY=":0.1" to make it run on the tv-out
[12:37] <System79> x_: But doesnt your sound already work?
[12:37] <x_> dystopianray   what ?!
[12:37] <dystopianray> JayRoe: just put DISPLAY in
[12:37] <System79> x_: Ubuntu is to autoconfigure your drivers
[12:37] <Vipio> has anyone installed a wireless pcmcia cad succesfully?
[12:37] <dystopianray> JayRoe: DISPLAY=":0.1" ./movecursor
[12:37] <Wmich06> yup
[12:37] <dystopianray> Vipio: yes
[12:37] <YossarianFan> Adobe, Wine (I installed it in Synaptic but can't seem to figure out how to use it - same thing for ntfsprogs) and something else..
[12:37] <JayRoe> dystopianray, I tried that, but it still runs the script in the same terminal
[12:37] <stefg> jamierc: what basically makes the succes is the sensible choice of default settings. Unlike other linux distros you don't have to make educated decisions about what you're going to take for a job, you're just presented with an (arguably) sensibly  preconfigured system, and you can alter the defailts as you grow in knowledge
[12:37] <x_> system79 ... just in startup i can hear Ubuntu loading sound .. that's it ... not more sound
[12:37] <taime1> does anyone know where i can get the nvidia configuration tool?
[12:38] <Wmich06> turn up ur speakers
[12:38] <System79> x_: Go to your sound settings
[12:38] <dystopianray> taime1: comes with nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new
[12:38] <hexstar> YossarianFan: to install adobe download the adobe reader package from adobe.com and click it and follow the prompts, for wine you go into terminal and type wine /local/to/exe.exe
[12:38] <trippndarift> Hi. I use the Nautilus Script that rotates selected images. I was wondering if anyone knows if this rotation is a harmless rotation or if it will degrade the JPEG data?
[12:38] <x_> system79 ... can u tell me step by step ?!  i'm not pro in linux  ;-)
[12:38] <System79> x_: Its hard for me to find your config tool cause im on XUbuntu at the moment >.>
[12:38] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: you don't need adobe reader, you should already have a pdf reader
[12:38] <Vipio> dystopianray, can you help me? I've got a linksys WPC54gs but it doesn't find any sire
[12:38] <Vipio> wire*
[12:38] <YossarianFan> oh, and I have a sound card issue. I can get sound (thanks to the forum) but can't figure hout how to permanently modify the etc/modules thing to make it load snd-sb16 automatically
[12:38] <taime1> dystopianray: that isnt the driver that 'restricted driver manager' installs is it?
[12:38] <hexstar> YossarianFan: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=10&platform=unix
[12:39] <dystopianray> Vipio: what wifi chip does it use?
[12:39] <YossarianFan> Hmm..where's the PDF reader?
[12:39] <dystopianray> taime1: should be
[12:39] <x_> system79 ... oops ... is that cooler than Kubuntu or ubuntu ?!
[12:39] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: just click on a pdf
[12:39] <crimsun> YossarianFan: echo snd-sb16|sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[12:39] <bluesmoon> what's the channel for ubuntulive?
[12:39] <Vipio> how do I see that?
[12:39] <YossarianFan> I have the Linux Adobe already :)
[12:39] <hexstar> YossarianFan: should be in the X menu somewhere
[12:39] <dystopianray> Vipio: pastebin the output of 'lspci' with the card plugged in
[12:39] <System79> x_: it just uses a diffrent window manager and things are in diffrent places ;x
[12:39] <YossarianFan> it's not that I can tell, hexstar
[12:39] <taime1> dystopianray: it isnt in my menus... do you know the command off hand?
[12:40] <dystopianray> taime1: nvidia-settings ?
[12:40] <x_> system79   oookk  and how about terminal commands ?! is that same ?!
[12:40] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: have you tried clicking on a pdf?
[12:40] <YossarianFan> crimsun, how much of your message do I type into Term?
[12:40] <hexstar> YossarianFan: that's weird
[12:40] <taime1> dystopianray: i think thats it.. ill try it
[12:40] <crimsun> YossarianFan: the whole thing.  Copy and paste.
[12:41] <YossarianFan> Not yet. I've got a bunch of things in online storage and I started to download them until I realized I was completely lost as to how to install anything I downloaded. Let me go grab a pdf from cd
[12:41] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: pdfs 'just work', you don't need to install anything special, and adobe's reader is rather subpar
[12:41] <TTilus> situation with filenames, i've got iso-8859-15 (methinks) and looks like cd-burner would like to have utf-8, this guy probably has the same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95754
[12:41] <TTilus> suggestions?
[12:41] <YossarianFan> Alrighty then :)
[12:41] <abstrakt> ok
[12:41] <System79> x_: In the upper right corner you have a sound thingie right? a mixer
[12:41] <monty_> hello! does anybody know, if it is possible tu install ubuntu without monitor and keyboard. something like: i boot from the cd and then connect via ssh and do the installation?
[12:42] <akos> can someone please help me with a video driver install? glxinfo | vendor says that server glx vendor string: SGI (the other two are O.K., NVidia)
[12:42] <dystopianray> TTilus: cd burner should not care what the charset is
[12:42] <abstrakt> System79: hey, so what was that command?
[12:42] <ubuntu> hello everyone i have a rather urgent problem id like to see if anyone can help me with.  i am dual booting vista and ubuntu.....i was trying to install mandriva next to those.......but now my pc wont boot......i get some grub 17 error and thats it, also when i go into gparted it reports that the disk is completely empty with unallocated space....any ideas?
[12:42] <abstrakt> i don't see any of my drives already pre mounded in /mnt or in /media
[12:42] <hexstar> ukl;mkl
[12:42] <TTilus> dystopianray: apparently it does
[12:42] <YossarianFan> Now the ntfsprogs thing. I need to access the ntfsfix part so that enabling read/write with ntfs-3g doesn't lock up my hds. >_> *feels blonde*
[12:42] <dystopianray> TTilus: are you seeing some kind of error?
[12:42] <hexstar> abstrakt, well you know how to mount them in terminal I assume since you used linux for 5 years
[12:42] <abstrakt> System79: you only said one command, i take it you meant that i should mount my drive first and then copy the xorg.config over right?
[12:42] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: ntfsfix?
[12:42] <System79> abstrakt: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /media/hda/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:42] <YossarianFan> ty crimsun, btw
[12:43] <TTilus> dystopianray: "some files have invalid filenames"
[12:43] <System79> abstrakt: if you are running from the ubuntu live cd it should already be mounted
[12:43] <YossarianFan> UHm, I have the forum open somewhere..let me look
[12:43] <gizzo> anyone know of a good dock plug-in for beryl? i want something mimicking the x dock
[12:43] <trippndarift> Does anyone have a suggestion for a Media Catalog other than F-Spot?
[12:43] <akos> can someone please help me with a video driver install? glxinfo | vendor says that server glx vendor string: SGI (the other two are O.K., NVidia)
[12:43] <taime1> dystopianray: ah, i have a little bit older card, and noticed that i had the other proprietary driver installed, thus, nvidia-settings was not installed by default, but i was able to do so in synaptic, thanks for shining some light
[12:43] <jamierc> >stefg cheers, was more or less what I was thinking. That and the support
[12:43] <abstrakt> System79: k i thought so but they don't seem to be, /media is empty
[12:43] <dystopianray> TTilus: invalid characters?
[12:43] <x_> system79   yeah   i have
[12:43] <YossarianFan> If you don't dual boot, get ntfsfix from the ntfsprogs package, run it on the windows device, and add the 'force' option in /etc/fstab for your windows device.
[12:43] <dystopianray> taime1: ok yeah, nvidia-glx-legacy doens't come with nvidia-settings
[12:43] <YossarianFan> that^^
[12:43] <System79> x_: right click that and hit properties
[12:43] <hexstar> abstrakt: mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda
[12:43] <abstrakt> hexstar: and will you *please* stfu, god i don't wanna have to /ignore you in every client i use
[12:43] <JayRoe> dystopianray, I managed to do it with gnome-terminal --screen 1 -x xwit -warp 50 50. Thanks for your time :)
[12:43] <System79> x_: or double click it i dont reallly remember :$
[12:44] <Scunizi> How do I discover what the uuid of a drive is that is not mounted or in fstab?
[12:44] <hexstar> abstrakt: leave if you don't like FREE SUPPORT
[12:44] <abstrakt> hexstar: you're not giving me much support
[12:44] <stefg> !blkid
[12:44] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[12:44] <gizzo> kiba-dock anyone? cant find it in any of the repositories
[12:44] <hexstar> abstrakt: yeah I am, you're just choosing not to listen
[12:44] <Scunizi> Thanks stefg!
[12:44] <Theory> ffggg
[12:45] <System79> abstrakt: Have you mounted your harddisk by now?
[12:45] <hexstar> mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda
[12:45] <dystopianray> Scunizi: use vol_id on the device
[12:45] <x_> system79 ... dude ... double click ... i can see problem now ... that was it ... thanks for help dear :-*  ;-)
[12:45] <astro76> !language | abstrakt
[12:45] <ubotu> abstrakt: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:45] <hexstar> then cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /media/sda/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:45] <System79> x_: No problem :)
[12:45] <DarkSpecter> anyone familiar with atiixp who could help me get my spdif working ?
[12:45] <Scunizi> stefg, does blkid take the place of fdisk -l?  Tried that with zero results.
[12:46] <Davy_Jones> !stfu | abstrakt
[12:46] <ubotu> abstrakt: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[12:46] <TTilus> dystopianray: yes, invalid characters, '' and ''
[12:46] <NETWizz> I have a joke
[12:46] <Scunizi> dystopianray, how do you mean.... ? like in the Dapper days?
[12:46] <NETWizz> A guy sits at a bar with a new timepiece.
[12:46] <dystopianray> Scunizi: sudo vol_id /dev/blah
[12:46] <NETWizz> A women asks im about the watch.  She says, it is very fancy
[12:46] <stefg> Scunizi: fdisk -l list the partition table (in /dev/ -from) blkid just list the UUID of /filesystems/
[12:46] <Davy_Jones> !offtopic | NETWizz
[12:46] <ubotu> NETWizz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:46] <Scunizi> dystopianray, ah.. gotcha!
[12:46] <abstrakt> ok, reboot, bbiab
[12:47] <System79> See u soon =x
[12:47] <x_> system79 ... u know how many days and times i asked for it ... nobodies didn't know about that  untill tonight ... that was a BIG help  :-)
[12:47] <bEnN> does anyoneknow if there are cheatcodes for ubuntu at boot, like knoppix
[12:47] <System79> x_: No problem im here to help ;)
[12:47] <abstrakt> Davy_Jones: they're not? hmmm, funny that people in this channel were calling me a "noob" then, i figured the regulars here should know better
[12:47] <Scunizi> stefg, yet when I use fdisk -l nothing is returned.. It does on my dapper sys..
[12:47] <stefg> Scunizi: so if theres unpartitioned space you'll see it in fdisk -l but not in blkid
[12:47] <System79> bEnN: Check upon the ubuntu docs for kernel boot flags
[12:47] <dystopianray> bEnN: what exactly do you want to do?
[12:47] <juano__> anyone know how to fix the resolution in gfceu under GNOME in feisty ? i get a black square all around my games
[12:47] <stefg> Scunizi: ubse sudo
[12:47] <stefg> Scunizi: use *sudo* fdsik -l
[12:48] <TTilus> dystopianray: it lists all files having latin-1-only chars as being invalid (and no others) and there's alphanumeric 8+3 name listed as "invalid" also
[12:48] <Scunizi> stefg, that works.. thanks.
[12:48] <hexstar> abstrakt: if you weren't rude to people giving you free support
[12:48] <hexstar> ...
[12:48] <bEnN> dystopianray:im trying to boot into the liove cd, but it freezes, the only way ive been able to boot into a linux dist was with damn small linux using the cheatcode expert nopcmcia
[12:48] <System79> abstrakt: Just get over it, is your X fixed already?
[12:49] <bEnN> but i need a ubuntu equivilent
[12:49] <Davy_Jones> he's gone
[12:49] <dystopianray> bEnN: live hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false
[12:49] <bEnN> do i put that over whats already there?
[12:49] <System79> Bah
[12:49] <bEnN> when i press F6
[12:49] <dystopianray> bEnN: add the hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false part
[12:50] <System79> bEnN you put the flags (cheats) behind whats already there yes
[12:50] <System79> ;p
[12:50] <bEnN> o ok
[12:50] <trippndarift> Is there an app to make it easy to upload to Google Photos?
[12:50] <bEnN> ill go try that ty!!!
[12:50] <x_> system79 .. do u know which program i should use to wma and rm player ?!   i used real player and windows media player in windows ... but in linux i dono
[12:50] <dystopianray> trippndarift: picasa?
[12:50] <hexstar> trippndarift: there's picasa for linux
[12:50] <System79> x_: use totem with codecs
[12:50] <System79> x_: Or XMMS is always good :)
[12:50] <hexstar> x_: you need the codecs
[12:50] <Trashcan> having a little trouble setting a static IP from the cli... i set it up, i can ping my router, but i cant resolve any addresses
[12:50] <Trashcan> anyone know the magic touch?
[12:51] <Davy_Jones> x_: there are many.. totem, amarok, xmms, beep, helix
[12:51] <dystopianray> Trashcan: you haven't setup a nameserver
[12:51] <x_> system79 ... wich codecs ?! how i can get it ?!
[12:51] <stefg> !codecs
[12:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:51] <hexstar> Trashcan: have you setup dns servers?
[12:51] <System79> x_: Type in sudo apt-get install xmms <-- For Mp3
[12:51] <trippndarift> I was hoping to stay with OS
[12:51] <dystopianray> Trashcan: add the line 'nameserver 4.2.2.1' to /etc/resolv.conf
[12:51] <System79> x_: Type in sudo apt-get install xmms <-- For Mp3 and Internet streams
[12:51] <trippndarift> I mean GNU
[12:51] <Trashcan> why 4.2.2.1?
[12:51] <Scunizi> On boot fsck reports "failed to open the device uuid= yada yada". That device is actually sdb3 and is my kubuntu feisty install with reiserfs.  Why is the sys reporting this? and how do I stop it?
[12:51] <Trashcan> i tried 192.168.1.1
[12:51] <Trashcan> and its got my Cox nameservers in resolv.conf
[12:51] <hexstar> Trashcan, you can get the nameservers from your isp...add the IP's then to /etc/resolv.conf
[12:51] <dystopianray> Trashcan: 4.2.2.1 should work for everyone, when that works you can replace it with whatever your dns server actually is
[12:51] <evilpooh> omg i have no idea what im doing LOL
[12:51] <adam820> x_: there's also VLC media player... it pretty much plays everything out of the box ( I don't know in Linux, but it does for Windows at least)
[12:51] <x_> system79  E: Couldn't find package xmm
[12:52] <Davy_Jones> Cox as in Alan Cox?
[12:52] <hexstar> x_: apt-cache search xmm
[12:52] <System79> x_: Type in sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:52] <abstrakt> w00t! score one for team do-it-your-self
[12:52] <abstrakt> i just *knew* that i shouldn't run that command when i saw it
[12:52] <ali> I ma having problems with wifi card? its just lost
[12:52] <unagi> !ntfs
[12:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:52] <unagi> !ntfs-3g
[12:52] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:52] <System79> abstrakt: what command?
[12:52] <juano__> does anyone know why when i run a nintendo rom with gfceu i cant get it to go fullscreen all the way, it just shows up in a little square in the middle ?
[12:52] <abstrakt> but i went against my leet instincts and did it anyway... i wanted to have faith in Ubuntu... is that so bad? but lo, i was fux0red
[12:52] <Trashcan> i added 4.2.2.1 and still get unknown host
[12:52] <juano__> this doesnt happen with zsnes, only fceu
[12:52] <evilpooh> ok i have a question with something. im sooo new to this! but ubuntu is not letting me connect to my wireless network?
[12:53] <abstrakt> System79, uhhh, sudo nvidia-config glx enable or some such thing like that
[12:53] <hexstar> Trashcan: you have to restart networking
[12:53] <x_> hexstar .. i got a laaaarg info
[12:53] <Trashcan> ah....
[12:53] <dystopianray> evilpooh: how is it not letting you?
[12:53] <abstrakt> System79, it says waht to run under the description of nvidia-glx in synaptic
[12:53] <Davy_Jones> !wireless | abstrakt
[12:53] <ubotu> abstrakt: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:53] <System79> abstrakt: whatever =x
[12:53] <unagi> can anyone tell me how to fix overlappign partitions?
[12:53] <hexstar> Trashcan: I think /etc/init.d/inetd restart will do it
[12:53] <abstrakt> System79, that's what b0rked my xorg.conf *and* also what was nice enough to fail to backup my old xorg.conf for me too
[12:53] <dystopianray> hexstar: that is wrong
[12:53] <System79> unagi: overlapping as iin?
[12:53] <abstrakt> i went in and changed the driver to 'nvidia' from 'nv' manually with vim, and poof
[12:53] <abstrakt> it works
[12:53] <System79> abstrakt: Thats the problem i have ;)
[12:53] <x_> system79 ... thanks .. and how i can have CODECS ?!
[12:54] <hexstar> dystopianray: it is, what should be done to restart networking then?
[12:54] <System79> !codecs | x_
[12:54] <Scunizi> unagi, gparted
[12:54] <ubotu> x_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:54] <unagi> overlapping as in gparted reporting 'cant have overlapping partitions' and showing unallocated space on the hd and grub not loading
[12:54] <jonalegend> juano_ usually is the default for that kind of emulator to use a windows size option 1, thas a little square
[12:54] <dystopianray> hexstar: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:54] <hexstar> oh
[12:54] <evilpooh> dys... when i configure my wireless setting it is just not seeing the connection or something
[12:54] <unagi> negative on the gparted
[12:54] <evilpooh> it just wont connect
[12:54] <abstrakt> System79, hehehe, yeah the problem that when you do things the automagic way you get screwed and when you do them manually like you know you should you're fine? yeah, that problem kinda bugs me
[12:54] <dystopianray> evilpooh: need to be more specific
[12:54] <TTilus> burner gives "Some files have invalid filenames" (and does not tell _why_ they are invalid), files having latin-1-only characters (such as '') and no others are listed as "invalid" so that's probably the cause, any suggestions?
[12:54] <abstrakt> that's what i meant by "Ubuntu sucks"
[12:54] <hexstar> unagi: fsck?
[12:54] <Scunizi> unagi, how'd you get overlapping partitions?  I thought that would be impossible.
[12:54] <jokull> is it ok to restart on a vserver ?
[12:55] <unagi> what is fsck
[12:55] <System79> abstrakt: You could better say linux sucks then ;z
[12:55] <unagi> i dont know how it happened but it happened
[12:55] <hexstar> unagi: fsck checks and repairs disk errors
[12:55] <Davy_Jones> unagi: filesystem check
[12:55] <evilpooh> dys can i pvt?
[12:55] <hexstar> unagi: you should run fsck
[12:55] <dystopianray> evilpooh: sure
[12:55] <akos> Can anyone help me with enableing nvidia direct rendering on a 8600 GS card?
[12:55] <unagi> fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[12:55] <unagi> thats the output when i do fsck
[12:55] <abstrakt> System79, not really, linux is just a kernel, the gnu utilities a pretty small low level layer
[12:55] <abstrakt> System79, this is really the fault of the Ubuntu package management team
[12:55] <JC_Denton_> System79 u know where I can find system76 to ask about the ubuntu stickers I have been waiting on for weeks now?
[12:55] <x_> system79 ... i can't undrestand anything from that ... do u know some command for codecs ?!  it's short way in terminal ;-)
[12:55] <Littlegator> Why can I not install Ubuntu? argh, it keeps saying no root filesystem...
[12:56] <abstrakt> and given that Ubuntu is basically linux with fancy package management, that pretty much equates to Ubuntu sucking (at least in this regard)
[12:56] <unagi> any ideas?
[12:56] <hexstar> unagi: fsck -y /dev/drivename
[12:56] <System79> JC_Denton: System76? =x
[12:56] <abstrakt> Littlegator, well i know the answer, but because you were so friendly to me i don't think i'm gonna help you
[12:56] <hexstar> NOTE: do this from a live cd, do NOT do this while root drive is mounted
[12:56] <Littlegator> abstrakt: lol k
[12:56] <unagi> fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[12:56] <unagi> fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[12:56] <unagi> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda4
[12:56] <Davy_Jones> Littlegator: sounds like partitioning problem
[12:56] <Littlegator> abstrakt: I have a drive set to / btw
[12:56] <JC_Denton_> system79 http://vntutor.blogspot.com/2007/06/get-free-ubuntu-stickers.html (sys76 according to here - send the guys my envelope but nothing for weeks now)
[12:56] <hexstar> abstrakt...grrr ><
[12:56] <System79> Littlegator: Ill help joo
[12:57] <abstrakt> velko, thank you thank you, i'm glad to be here... wow, what a crowd
[12:57] <System79> Littlegator: What is the problem?
[12:57] <unagi> hexstar: what does that mean
[12:57] <hexstar> unagi: don't do the ntfs partition, do the linux one on a live cd
[12:57] <unagi> i thought sda4 was the linux one
[12:57] <hexstar> unagi: no, what fsck said was that it can't check that drive because it's ntfs and it doesn't support ntfs
[12:57] <System79> Littlegator: What is the problem? Fine be like that :(
[12:57] <Trashcan> hexstar: i edited /etc/network/interfaces to remove the "dhcp" entry from the iface call, but it is complaining too few parameters
[12:57] <Davy_Jones> sda is an external disk.. why would you wanna install ubuntu on that?
[12:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> he folks
[12:57] <Trashcan> how would i go about telling it NOT to use dhcp?
[12:57] <Littlegator> system79: a lot of typing >_>
[12:58] <unagi> so how do i figure out which one is the linux partition
[12:58] <System79> Littlegator: If you dont tell me whats wrong i cant help you ;)
[12:58] <hexstar> unagi: to find your linux drive while in linux open a terminal and do df -h, look to the right for  /, then to the far left in the same column to find drive name, then reboot in live cd and do fsck -y /dev/drivename
[12:58] <abstrakt> hmmm
[12:58] <abstrakt> the NTFS drivers though do work quite nicely
[12:58] <juano__> does anyone know why when i run a nintendo rom with gfceu i cant get it to go fullscreen all the way, it just shows up in a little square in the middle ?
[12:58] <juano__> this doesnt happen with zsnes, only fceu
[12:58] <unagi> ah
[12:58] <unagi> sda3
[12:58] <Civik> stefg : you here?
[12:58] <unagi> ty
[12:58] <abstrakt> that's a surprise... so maybe Ubuntu only half sucks :P
[12:58] <Davy_Jones> unagi: sudo fdisk -l
[12:58] <hexstar> unagi: np :)
[12:59] <velko> abstrakt, you're again after proprietary stuff which does not work, does you?
[12:59] <System79> abstrakt: which distro doesnt suck in your eyes? :-)
[12:59] <YossarianFan> ok, so in Terminal I typed: wine /local/to/exe.exe and it told me: wine: cannot find '/local/to/exe.exe'
[12:59] <abstrakt> System79, none of them :P
[12:59] <hexstar> System79: windowz
[12:59] <abstrakt> System79, Ubuntu is the least of all the evils
[12:59] <Tidus> abstrakt, any distro is going to have its issues
[12:59] <System79> abstrakt: then better stick to winblows
[12:59] <Littlegator> System79: I have 3 drives set in step 5 of the installation manager on an edgy livecd. I have drive 1 set to mount point "/" as a 4GB drive. I have drive 2 set to mount point "/media/hda4" on a 33GB drive. I have drive 3 set to mount point "swap" on a 1GB drive.
[12:59] <abstrakt> hexstar, dude you guys are preaching to the choir man
[12:59] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: you have entered the wrong path to the file
[12:59] <superkirbyartist> How do I increase the volume in Audacity?
[12:59] <Littlegator> System79: it gives me the error "no root filesystem"
[12:59] <YossarianFan> I figured that much
[12:59] <juano__> ikonia: hi
[12:59] <abstrakt> System79, please don't start with the windows crap
[12:59] <YossarianFan> I'm blonde, it's bound to happen
[01:00] <hexstar> abstrakt what? I don't understand your rambling
[01:00] <Davy_Jones> abstrakt: really, just because you can use ubuntu doesn't mean you have toi
[01:00] <unagi> ok i ran it on both ext3 partitions and gparted still says overlapping partitions
[01:00] <Davy_Jones> to
[01:00] <ikonia> juano__: yes
[01:00] <System79> Littlegator: Are you using fdisk to make your partitions?
[01:00] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: not sure.. but for some reason why i can't resise anything on my desktop?...
[01:00] <ikonia> I was just going to bed
[01:00] <abstrakt> Davy_Jones, what!? really! i don't HAVE to!? no way!
[01:00] <superkirbyartist> How do I increase the volume in Audacity?
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[01:00] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: you don't litterally type 'local/to/exe.exe' you substitute the actual path and filename
[01:00] <Littlegator> system79, I used the partition editor in the installer...
[01:00] <evilpooh> what was the link to the wireless info?
[01:00] <Civik> Anyone know where StefG went???????
[01:00] <Davy_Jones> yeah, stick with windows
[01:00] <juano__> ikonia: do you know why fullscreen with gfceu wont work well
[01:00] <superkirbyartist> How do I increase the volume in Audacity?
[01:00] <abstrakt> dude, stfu
[01:00] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: what, you're trying to resize a mounted volume?
[01:00] <Trashcan> SUCCESS, just had to do "iface eth0 inet static ..."
[01:00] <unagi> abstrakt: you arent very nice
[01:00] <Davy_Jones> !wireless | evilpooh
[01:00] <ubotu> evilpooh: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:00] <abstrakt> quit telling me to "stick with windows" i know wtf i'm doing aight? chill
[01:00] <System79> Littlegator: what file system did you chose to use?
[01:00] <dystopianray> juano__: probably best asking the gfceu developers
[01:00] <YossarianFan> ...how am I supposed to know the path and filename when I don't know where it is? ;_;
[01:00] <superkirbyartist> How do I increase the volume in Audacity?
[01:00] <abstrakt> unagi, no i'm not
[01:00] <astro76> !ops | abstrakt
[01:00] <ubotu> abstrakt: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[01:00] <ikonia> juano__: with out investigating, not a clue
[01:00] <hexstar> !stfu | abstrakt
[01:00] <ubotu> abstrakt: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[01:01] <juano__> dystopianray: you know the channel ?
[01:01] <evilpooh> THANKS :-)
[01:01] <abstrakt> hexstar, gee ya don't say?
[01:01] <unagi> hexstar gparted is still saying cant have overlapping partitions....any ideas?
[01:01] <dystopianray> juano__: no, sorry
[01:01] <superkirbyartist> How do I increase the volume in Audacity?
[01:01] <velko> Davy_Jones, abstrakt has already declared that he is a long time unix user. you and hexstar still treat him as a n00b and this pisses him off
[01:01] <juano__> ikonia: ok no prob , thanks neway :P
[01:01] <YossarianFan> I miss WIndows ME all of a sudden. *death*
[01:01] <hexstar> did fsck repair anything unagi?
[01:01] <abstrakt> velko, YAY! someone who understands!
[01:01] <Trashcan> abstrakt
[01:01] <Trashcan> 16:00
[01:01] <Trashcan> quit telling me to "stick with windows" i know wtf i'm doing aight? chill <--- LOL
[01:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar:  Naw even a webpage... i can maximize it and minimize it but i cant adjust the size ...
[01:01] <YossarianFan> wait, no I don't!
[01:01] <nalioth> let us be civil, please astro76 abstrakt hexstar
[01:01] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: where did you put the file?
[01:01] <abstrakt> nalioth, yes let us
[01:01] <Davy_Jones> velko: he's just pissed off for nothing
[01:01] <Scunizi> superkirbyartist, when recording or playing back?
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> YossarianFan: how could you miss windows MEss
[01:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: i men..
[01:01] <hexstar> velko: that's because he is rude
[01:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i cant;;;;
[01:01] <unagi> fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[01:01] <unagi> e2fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[01:01] <unagi> /dev/sda3: clean, 218204/8716288 files, 4666083/17412451 blocks (check in 4 mounts)
[01:01] <velko> Davy_Jones, this is not the point
[01:01] <Littlegator> system79: I am using ext3
[01:01] <YossarianFan> dysto, nowhere. I just clicked install under Syn
[01:01] <Davy_Jones> velko: but probably him "knowing" linux makes him think he's above everybody
[01:02] <unagi> thats the output hexstar
[01:02] <System79> abstrakt: The fact that you are an advanced unix user doesnt mean you can talk to other people like that
[01:02] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: oh...not sure
[01:02] <YossarianFan> SYnaptic
[01:02] <superkirbyartist> How do I increase the volume in Audacity?
[01:02] <superkirbyartist> This is easier to do in Windows Sound Recorder.
[01:02] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> haha sall good i know ya busy..
[01:02] <YossarianFan> methinks mah keyboard lags. ._.
[01:02] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: no i mean, where is the file you are trying to run?
[01:02] <System79> abstrakt: If you want to brag about how bad things are, go to #rantandinsult or something
[01:02] <YossarianFan> I'm trying to run WIne
[01:02] <hexstar> oh unagi: fsck -yf /dev/drive
[01:02] <superkirbyartist> Scunizi: No, simply increasing the volume of an already-written file.
[01:02] <YossarianFan> I don't know where it is :(
[01:02] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: you just type 'wine'
[01:03] <superkirbyartist> I download podcasts and they are 10 times softer than songs.
[01:03] <System79> Littlegator: May i suggest you to use Ubuntu Feisty fawn 7.04, it has a better way of partitioning
[01:03] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> this is odd since i install what i installed.. .done nothing else but reboot..now i cant change any size of any box i open.. being a program and webpage anything
[01:03] <hexstar> abstrakt is just full of himself and is inconsiderate of people providing free support
[01:03] <tannerld> how can I change what category a app. is in in the Applications menu?
[01:03] <System79> Littlegator: Otherwise please run the auto partitioner ;x
[01:03] <superkirbyartist> Littlegator: Use Vista it's the best.
[01:03] <YossarianFan> ok
[01:03] <velko> Davy_Jones, i don't see it this way. he followed some instructions about installing some nvidia crap and this borked his xorg.conf without backup. this was the cause for his first rant. this is really and ubuntu packaging problem. and as he said that ubuntu sucks, everybody here got offended
[01:03] <unagi> ok hexstar its running pass 1
[01:03] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: did you install beryl?
[01:03] <YossarianFan> did that...I got this error: wine PROGRAM [ARGUMENTS...] 
[01:03] <YossarianFan> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\PROGRAM.exe": Module not found
[01:03] <YossarianFan> oops, sorry
[01:03] <hexstar> unagi: ok :)
[01:03] <nalioth> hexstar: let us be civil
[01:03] <unagi> this takes a little while right?
[01:03] <superkirbyartist> Scunizi?
[01:03] <abstrakt> System79, i don't talk to people "like that" because I'm an advanced *nix user, i talk to them like that because A) i'm kind of an ass (yes i admit it) and B) they condescend towards me after i let them know i'm not just some fool newbie wheras people like you and velko actually try to provide help that is well targeted to my experience level
[01:03] <Scunizi> superkirbyartist, if the volume controls in Audacity are already turned up all the way you will want to look at the master volume. You could also right click the master volume of the system and choose "Open Volume cont." Play with the slides there.
[01:03] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: you typed 'wine PROGRAM.exe' ?
[01:04] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Nikin: ya along time ago..
[01:04] <hexstar> unagi: yes it does
[01:04] <abstrakt> System79, *that* is why i speak "like that"
[01:04] <unagi> abstrakt: you do realize that this is an irc channel and no one is impressed right?
[01:04] <Littlegator> system79: I have no means of getting a live cd other than a 6 week wait for delivery. By that time, I'll have a fedora core live CD and be using that instead. Also, I'm not using the auto partitioner. I have about 180GB of personal data on this drive and I'm not risking any of it.
[01:04] <YossarianFan> lemme try again
[01:04] <JayRoe> can someone tell me how I can remove the gnome panels permanently?
[01:04] <abstrakt> unagi, back at you buddy
[01:04] <Trashcan> WOOT, i have a LAMP server running :)
[01:04] <Trashcan> rebooted from ssh
[01:04] <nalioth> !tell abstrakt about guidelines
[01:04] <hexstar> abstrakt: glad you can admit you're an ass
[01:04] <unagi> im not trying to impress anyone abstrakt
[01:04] <superkirbyartist> Scunizi, if I increase the Gain, will it do anything?
[01:04] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: type alt+f2 and there >    metacity --replace
[01:04] <dystopianray> Trashcan: why did you need to reboot it?
[01:04] <nickrud> nalioth, I do not envy you your job
[01:04] <sauvin> Littlegator, if you're on the Internet now, why do you hvae no means of getting another CD image?
[01:04] <nikin> that will fix it tilol next reboot
[01:04] <YossarianFan> Same message: wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\program.exe": Module not found
[01:04] <BeOSMrX> how do I mount my usb camera ive searched google, tired gtkam, digikam and nothing works. and no one is helping on mandriva channel
[01:04] <Trashcan> i was just testing ssh, dystopianray
[01:04] <System79> Littlegator: Then good luck further cause i cant help you :)
[01:04] <unagi> ugh i didnt know trying to install mandriva would mess so much up
[01:04] <abstrakt> dude i'm gone
[01:04] <Littlegator> k
[01:04] <Scunizi> superkirbyartist, or were you really asking how to increase the imbedded volume level of the file.?
[01:04] <unagi> bye abstrakt
[01:05] <Trashcan> you wont be missed :O
[01:05] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: program.exe doesn't exist
[01:05] <superkirbyartist> Scunizi, yes.
[01:05] <YossarianFan> well
[01:05] <System79> Abstrakt: I actually enjoy talking to people like you =p
[01:05] <YossarianFan> is it wine.exe?
[01:05] <Scunizi> superkirbyartist, hang on a sec..
[01:05] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: 'wine' that's it, just type 'wine' and press enter
[01:05] <YossarianFan> I did
[01:05] <System79> Yossarian
[01:05] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: it should not be asking about any executable files
[01:05] <YossarianFan> it gave me a list of commands
[01:05] <abstrakt> System79, hehe, thanks, i actually enjoy talking to people like you, so... at least we have each other... </touchingmoment>
[01:05] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: that's normal
[01:05] <superkirbyartist> System79 use Vista it has all the features you asked for free and IE 7 is not integrated and can be easily removed.
[01:05] <System79> YossarianFan: whar are u trying to run
[01:06] <YossarianFan> the one for run: Usage: wine PROGRAM [ARGUMENTS...]    Run the specified program
[01:06] <YossarianFan> I entered that
[01:06] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: now what program do you want to install using wine?
[01:06] <ikonia> !wine >yossarianFan
[01:06] <ikonia> YossarianFan: read the link ubotu sent you
[01:06] <unagi> pass 2 checking directory structure
[01:06] <YossarianFan> uTorrent and uBook
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> YossarianFan: do what it says, wine "path/to/file/program.exe"
[01:06] <jeremie> \join #cairo
[01:06] <dystopianray> YossarianFan: download the utorrent installer
[01:06] <System79> YossarianFan: The syntax is wine <program you want to run>
[01:06] <TTilus> nautilus burner gives "Some files have invalid filenames" (and does not tell _why_ they are invalid), files having latin-1-only characters (such as '') and no others are listed as "invalid" so that's probably the cause, any suggestions?
[01:06] <System79> YossarianFan: The syntax is wine <program you want to run>
[01:06] <YossarianFan> ahh
[01:06] <YossarianFan> I get it now
[01:06] <dystopianray> then, assuming it is called 'utorrent.exe' run... 'wine utorrent.exe'
[01:06] <YossarianFan> ._.
[01:06] <YossarianFan> My apologies
[01:07] <TTilus> any easy way to rename files from latin-1 names to utf-8 names
[01:07] <unagi> hexstar: it apparently fixed something but gparted still doesnt show the partitions.....do i need to run it on all ext3 partitions?
[01:07] <BeOSMrX> how do I mount my usb camera ive searched google, tired gtkam, digikam and nothing works. and no one is helping on mandriva channel
[01:07] <YossarianFan> brb
[01:07] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: this is ubuntu support - not mandriva
[01:07] <abstrakt> ahhhh, irc_conf_mode = 1, much better
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> BeOSMrX: are you trying to mount it on Mandriva?
[01:07] <BeOSMrX> IndyGunFreak: yes
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> BeOSMrX: ok.. why'd youc ome here?
[01:08] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: we cannot help with mandriva here
[01:08] <unagi> hexstar: gparted still says overlapping partitions
[01:08] <milllmannn> anyone here use godaddy for the domains?
[01:08] <superkirbyartist> How do I install the SpySheriff spyware remover on Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn?
[01:08] <dystopianray> milllmannn: i have used godaddy
[01:08] <ikonia> milllmannn: is it anything to do with ubuntu ?
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> BeOSMrX: try the mandriva forum http://www.linuxquestions.org
[01:08] <superkirbyartist> Skunzi?
[01:08] <BeOSMrX> because some users here know lots about linux, not just ubuntu and they usually end up by helping me and the mandriva support resources never help
[01:09] <nadu> how do i mount an mdf file
[01:09] <nalioth> BeOSMrX: or #mandriva
[01:09] <dystopianray> superkirbyartist: what spyware are you hoping to remove?
[01:09] <Scunizi> superkirbyartist, glad your back... choose "edit" + "select all" then "Effect" + "Amplify".  That will allow you to increase the db of the track
[01:09] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: this is ubuntu support - not mandriva
[01:09] <milllmannn> I need help on how to have everything to do with a domain forwarded to my ubuntu server
[01:09] <moox> hi guys. I've installed bind9 on feisty on my localnetwork but it is very slow...any idea how I can customize that ?
[01:09] <ikonia> milllmannn: mail godaddy support
[01:09] <Trashcan> is it possible to map a folder on macos to a folder on my ubuntu machine?
[01:09] <nadu> Can anybody help me mount a mdf file
[01:09] <Trashcan> for instance, a pub folder for apache
[01:09] <ikonia> moox: your network is slow or bind is slow
[01:09] <dystopianray> Trashcan: yes, mount an nfs or smb share
[01:09] <unagi> anyone know how to fix overlapping partitions?
[01:09] <Trashcan> alright thanks dystopian, ill look into nfs
[01:09] <ikonia> unagi: sort the spacing/sizing out
[01:09] <unagi> by doing?
[01:09] <moox> ikonia: only bind
[01:10] <nalioth> Trashcan: OSX yes, OS9 or before, probably not
[01:10] <erUSUL> !iso | nadu
[01:10] <ubotu> nadu: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:10] <superkirbyartist> Dystopianray: I need to remove the spyware which transfers system info to Canonical.  Did you visit SpySheriff.com yet?
[01:10] <ikonia> moox: degine slow
[01:10] <dystopianray> nadu: just mount it like any other iso
[01:10] <ikonia> unagi: sorting the space out so partiitons don't over lap
[01:10] <unagi> ikonia how do you do that without using gparted
[01:10] <Scunizi> unagi, can you use gparted and shrink one of the partitions so it's not overlapping?
[01:10] <BeOSMrX> doesn't matter what you think ikonia, nalioth beucase some people hang out here to help anyone
[01:10] <ikonia> unagi: what tool are you using
[01:10] <dystopianray> superkirbyartist: there is no such spyware on your system
[01:10] <TTilus> any easy way to rename files from latin-1 names to utf-8?
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> superkirbyartist: just disable that option, its not spyware anyways
[01:10] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: the rules of the channel are ubuntu support only
[01:10] <unagi> im not using any tool because since there are overlapping partitions gparted isnt reporting the partitions
[01:10] <dystopianray> superkirbyartist: and that is a windows program
[01:10] <unagi> its reporting unallocated space across the board
[01:10] <moox> ikonia: it takes several seconds to get the IP . with opendns it is very quick. Ping with my dns server is normal
[01:10] <ShackJack> unagi: You can use gaprted for that - just have to boot from live cd and unmount drives :)
[01:10] <superkirbyartist> SpySherrif is FREE!
[01:10] <taime1> dystopianray: in edgy, the nvidia-settings allowed me to control all kinds of things such as digital vibrance. however, i just installed nvidia-settings in feisty, and it has almost No options, what gives?
[01:10] <unagi> im on the live cd
[01:11] <johny5> Ok, I'm having some problems with getting Ubuntu onto a Raid 1 system.  First I was gett Grub error 15 messages on boot.  I reinstalled and now I'm getting Grub 17 error messages.  Can anyone help?
[01:11] <unagi> gparted doesnt work
[01:11] <superkirbyartist> Just kidding guys.  SpySheriff is a rogue.
[01:11] <unagi> because of overlapping partitions
[01:11] <dystopianray> taime1: are you using the nvidia driver?
[01:11] <ikonia> moox: I see - thats interesting, hows your reverse lookups for your local network setup ?
[01:11] <taime1> dystopianray: yes
[01:11] <unagi> any other ideas ShackJack ikonia Scunizi
[01:11] <dystopianray> taime1: well I don't know what else would be the problem
[01:11] <superkirbyartist> DO NOT DOWNLOAD SPYSHERIFF YOUR ENTIRE WINE FOLDER WILL BE AFFECTED AND DESTROYED!
[01:11] <moox> ikonia: you means dns reverse ? I do not use that yet
[01:11] <JayRoe> can someone tell me how I make permanent changes to ubuntus configuration tool?
[01:12] <ikonia> moox: thats potentially one of the reasons, if you can't be bothered to set it up, just put entries in the servers host file
[01:12] <Scunizi> unagi, pull pin with teeth, count to 5, throw grenade into machine and RUN
[01:12] <ikonia> JayRoe: which tool ?
[01:12] <nickrud> JayRoe, could you be more specific?
[01:12] <BeOSMrX> how to mount my camerea, im using mandriva and asking in #ubuntu so too bad
[01:12] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: this is not mandriva support
[01:12] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: its against the channels guidelines
[01:12] <moox> ikonia: I'll add now a reverse db for bind, wait a sec
[01:12] <Scunizi> unagi, :)
[01:12] <unagi> ok im serious about this.......i really would not like to have to reinstall ubuntu and reconfigure everything again
[01:12] <unagi> =(
[01:12] <ikonia> unagi: you've asked like 100 times - just wait a minute
[01:12] <unagi> i cant boot into vista or ubuntu because of a grub error
[01:13] <ikonia> unagi: there are other people wnating help
[01:13] <superkirbyartist> Scunizi: Amplify doesn't make it louder.
[01:13] <JayRoe> ikonia and nickrud, I'm trying to remove the gnome panels on my tv-out, but it only works till I reboot. I'm talking about gconf-editor.
[01:13] <tannerld> how can I change what category a app. is in in the Applications menu?
[01:13] <unagi> im sure i screwed it up by trying to install mandriva.....so all im really trying to do is delete the mandriva partition
[01:13] <taime1> dystopianray: i guess its not a big deal... i did notice hoever, that in synaptic, the glx driver has my card listed, but if i install it, i cant seem to use it... i only seem to be able to 'use' the glx-legacy driver because it enables using the restricted driver manager... is there a way to install that other driver and enable it instead?
[01:13] <ikonia> unagi: it doesn't work like that, if you have overlapping partitions your paritions table is screwed
[01:13] <dystopianray> taime1: why aren't you able to use the other driver?
[01:13] <erUSUL> tannerld: right click on the menu; choose edit menu
[01:13] <SoulPropagation> Hi, I'm trying to copy a Windows install from an aging hard drive to one in good shape using ddrescue, should I ask about that here or in ##windows
[01:14] <ikonia> unagi: deleting the mandrivva parition won't fix that
[01:14] <Scunizi> superkirbyartist, it should increase the db gain of the track.  Beyond that I'm stumped.. works for me.
[01:14] <shawn34> Is there another menu i can install into the panel? kinda like the slab menu, but more robust?
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> SoulPropagation: what do you think?
[01:14] <unagi> meaning what......i HAVE to start over?
[01:14] <dystopianray> SoulPropagation: what filesystem is it?
[01:14] <SoulPropagation> dystopianray: NTFS
[01:14] <ikonia> unagi: if your partition table/data is messed up
[01:14] <superkirbyartist> Who has heard of Mr. Clean?
[01:14] <superkirbyartist> Well now there's Mr. Antispy!
[01:14] <taime1> dystopianray: well, because i dont know how to enable it... the only way i know how to enable the nvidia driver is through restricted driver manager and it only lists glx-legacy... but i want glx...
[01:14] <dystopianray> SoulPropagation: use ntfsclone which i believe comes with ntfs-3g
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> is it just me, or are more and more idiots visiting #ubuntu?
[01:14] <ikonia> superkirbyartist: can you stop talking nonsens please
[01:14] <SoulPropagation> dystopianray: ok, thanks
[01:14] <nickrud> JayRoe, system->prefs->sessions, tab current session: select gnome-panel, and set style to normal, then killall gnome-panel
[01:14] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: its not just you
[01:15] <dystopianray> taime1: to enable the driver you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf so it uses 'nvidia' rather than 'nv'
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: well, i figured you agreed with me...lol
[01:15] <nalioth> IndyGunFreak: ikonia: let us be civil
[01:15] <dystopianray> InfestedTemplar: it's not just you
[01:15] <Falstius> IndyGunFreak: using a linux tool to fix windows ... it is a tossup :)
[01:15] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: you didn't even have to ask ;)
[01:15] <ikonia> nalioth: I am
[01:15] <gizzo> guys is there anything better than kiba-dock?
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:15] <BeOSMrX> acutally I just read the irc guide and code of conduct and it doesnt say I cant ask for help, rather it says to give me help
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> Falstius: well, id idn't get the impression he was using Linux to fix Windows, he just wanted to fix WIndows.
[01:15] <taime1> dystopianray: ill make sure it is using nvidia
[01:15] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: just stop asking about mandriva - join #mandriva and ask there
[01:15] <hexstar> nalioth why were you banningm me?
[01:16] <SoulPropagation> I use whatever tool works best for what I'm using it for, be it Windows, *nix, or one of those stupid triangle head screwdrivers
[01:16] <unagi> how do i enable universe repositories?
[01:16] <superkirbyartist> If I install a windows spyware and run it with Wine will it affect my computer?
[01:16] <Falstius> IndyGunFreak: ddrescue is a linux tool, probably on the liveCD
[01:16] <dystopianray> taime1: to get nvidia working, all you ever need to do is install the correct glx package nad change 'nv' to 'nvidia' in xorg.conf
[01:16] <nalioth> !tell hexstar about guidelines
[01:16] <captainm> gizzo: I like avant window navigator
[01:16] <JayRoe> nickrud what style do I set to normal? And won't this just reactivate the panels on the next boot?
[01:16] <moox> ikonia: seams better ! But I don't understand why, can you quickly explain me why ?
[01:16] <shawn34> Is there another menu i can install into the panel? kinda like the slab menu, but more robust?
[01:16] <ShackJack> unagi: Admin - > Software Sources..
[01:16] <JayRoe> nickrud nevermind, I got it.
[01:16] <unagi> ty
[01:16] <nickrud> JayRoe, <backspaces> :)
[01:16] <SoulPropagation> Is there a tool that can help me stop misplacing my hard disks?
[01:17] <ikonia> moox: yeah sure, when you do a lookup it trys to get back tot he client it does the lookup on, it can try in certain configs to lookup the ip of the client doing the lookup, if thats not set it has to time out before it sends it to the client.
[01:17] <ikonia> moox: get it ?
[01:17] <dystopianray> SoulPropagation: what do you mean?
[01:17] <Lattyware> Trying to run UT2004 I get 'Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual' - but I have the nVidia drivers installed and runnign
[01:17] <taime1> dystopianray: yeah, i just tried that, and xorg.conf says its using nvidia, but two things tell me that the driver wasnt loaded, glxgears didnt work, and beryl didnt load
[01:17] <JayRoe> nickrud, I've set it to normal now. Did restart mean that it would start on reboot or that it would start itself again if closed?
[01:17] <dystopianray> taime1: have you restarted X since changing that line to nvidia?
[01:17] <SoulPropagation> dystopianray: I was kidding. ^_^ I keep losing one of the hard disks I'm working with in my giant pile of electronics stuff
[01:18] <taime1> dystopianray: it was already nvidia
[01:18] <ikonia> SoulPropagation: this is a busy channel, can you stop talking nonsense please
[01:18] <BeOSMrX> ikonia: maybe you should stop telling me what to do unless you're a channel operator
[01:18] <taime1> dystopianray: im baffles
[01:18] <taime1> dystopianray: im baffled**
[01:18] <dystopianray> SoulPropagation: I was going to suggest /dev/disk/*
[01:18] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: just show rspect for the rules
[01:18] <sauvin> BeOSMrX, if you don't want to be forcibly removed, please behave.
[01:18] <nickrud> JayRoe, you're right, it will restart. install sabayon, with that you can manage the default panel settings, which get read when you boot up. Sorry
[01:18] <abstrakt> do i need to do anything special to get mp3 support etc?
[01:18] <abstrakt> are there external media repos or something?
[01:19] <BeOSMrX> no, maybe you should show respect, I read the rules and im not breaking any
[01:19] <ikonia> abstrakt: make sure you have the codecs installed
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> abstrakt: other than codecs?
[01:19] <JayRoe> nickrud, thanks :)
[01:19] <hexstar> you need codecs to use mp3's
[01:19] <abstrakt> ikonia, k, what package do i need? what's it called?
[01:19] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: this is UBUNTU support - not mandriva, stop pushing mandriva help
[01:19] <abstrakt> apt-get install ....
[01:19] <ikonia> abstrakt: depends on what codec you want
[01:19] <dystopianray> abstrakt: you do not need any external repos for mp3 support
[01:19] <Tidus> !codecs | abstrakt
[01:19] <ubotu> abstrakt: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:19] <joeamined> hi
[01:19] <moox> ikonia: yes I think. Now, it works great for the internal hosts but it is still a bit slow when I try to access hosts outside of my network. I guess the client computer on my network should "automatically register" itself in the DNS. Is that right ?
[01:19] <jessica> hey, has anyone got keychain going in here in such a manner that it starts automagically at boot?
[01:19] <BeOSMrX> please stop trolling ikonia
[01:20] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: I'm not trolling ??? I'm asking you to stop discussing Mandriva support requests
[01:20] <joeamined> is it possible to get the quicktime plugin for firefox in ubuntu ?
[01:20] <christen> Hi. I'm trying to get a scanner to work. It's on and connected to the USB port, but I don't know how to get Ubuntu to recognize it.
[01:20] <abstrakt> BeOSMrX, does #mandriva not exist?
[01:20] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> who was it that gave me that command for beryl?  ( nickrud??
[01:20] <ikonia> moox: are you using dynamic dns ?
[01:20] <BeOSMrX> which is trolling because its not against the rules and you're being rude to me
[01:20] <Lattyware> Trying to run UT2004 I get 'Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual' - but I have the nVidia drivers installed and runnign
[01:20] <nickrud> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, nope, I'd remember your nick
[01:20] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: I'm not being rude and the rules are the channel int he topic are for UBUNTU support
[01:20] <hexstar> moox: if you're on dynamic dns using dyndns.com will work
[01:20] <dystopianray> joeamined: you can watch quicktime videos if you install the correct codec
[01:20] <Lattyware> BeOSMrX: It's obviously not what this channel is for, get some common sense.
[01:20] <sauvin> !ops BeOSMrX refuses to understand the rules
[01:20] <moox> ikonia: dynamic dns ?
[01:20] <taime1> dystopianray: i also noticed that it doesnt seem to matter if i uninstall the driver, restricted driver manager thinks its still there and enabled. does it work apart from apt?
[01:20] <christen> Can anyone help me with a scanner?
[01:20] <nalioth> abstrakt: there are all kinds of external repos for Ubuntu.  we recommend you use the offical ones, though
[01:21] <dystopianray> taime1: just forget restricted-driver manager
[01:21] <ikonia> moox: yeah, your client registers its self dynamically with the dns server as it logs in
[01:21] <BeOSMrX> i read the rules, but there are trolls here that are making trouble against me
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> !scanner
[01:21] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[01:21] <rhombus> why does Ubuntu insist on having the installation CD present when I'm installing packages with apt-get or aptitude?
[01:21] <taime1> dystopianray: gladly
[01:21] <dystopianray> taime1: manually install whichever glx package you need
[01:21] <astro76> joeamined, you need w32codecs ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[01:21] <Flannel> rhombus: Because you haven't removed the CD from your repositories yet
[01:21] <taime1> dystopianray: i did that earlier
[01:21] <rhombus> I'm a Gentoo user. It doesn't insist on anything.
[01:21] <Tidus> rhombus, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the cd from the repos
[01:21] <moox> ikonia: so no, I haven't configured anything for that behavior
[01:21] <rhombus> Flannel: Is flannel soft?
[01:21] <rhombus> Tidus: thanks
[01:21] <dystopianray> rhombus: it shouldn't
[01:21] <Lattyware> BeOSMrX: It's not in the rules because it's obvious. Just because it doesn't say you can't, doesn't mean you can.
[01:21] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i just ask a few mins ago about not being able to resize my boxes ( ie: programs, webpages,, anything and i was givin a command and just dont remember who gave that to me
[01:21] <ikonia> moox: ok - so your client wont' update dns on login
[01:21] <taime1> dystopianray: maybe reconfigure x afterwards?
[01:21] <shawn34> rhombus, because the cd repositories are active in your apt list
[01:21] <dystopianray> taime1: yes, try that
[01:21] <Lattyware> Trying to run UT2004 I get 'Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual' - but I have the nVidia drivers installed and running
[01:21] <rhombus> thanks
[01:21] <Tidus> !ops
[01:21] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[01:22] <rhombus> wow, this is the most active IRC channel I have ever seen.
[01:22] <nalioth> BeOSMrX: please consider #mandriva or other mandriva support
[01:22] <taime1> dystopianray: i will, thanks
[01:22] <dystopianray> taime1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:22] <moox> ikonia: ok, but you think it is the problem here ?
[01:22] <ikonia> moox: ro be fair thats apretty reasonable advanced config
[01:22] <sauvin> Lattyware, have you verified that hardware acceleration is enabled on your machine?
[01:22] <panfist> is there a good article about cifs and how to use it in ubuntu? thanks
[01:22] <nalioth> Tidus: yes?
[01:22] <ikonia> moox: shouldn't be if you've updated your host file
[01:22] <SoulPropagation> Lattyware: you run glxgears?
[01:22] <BeOSMrX> i shouldn't be refused inclusion of this channel because of what I happen to use, and I did try the mandriva channel
[01:22] <ikonia> moox: the host file ont he server
[01:22] <Tidus> BeOSMrX refuses to understand this isn't #mandriva
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> BeOSMrX: lol
[01:22] <unagi> how to i change the write permissions of my external drive from read-only?
[01:22] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: install ubuntu, then we will help
[01:22] <Lattyware> SoulPropagation: I get 'Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual'
[01:22] <SoulPropagation> Lattyware: at least we know it's not UT
[01:22] <System79> unagi: chmod for lyph <3
[01:22] <nalioth> BeOSMrX: than perhaps ask a general question or join ##linux for non-distro-specific help
[01:23] <moox> ikonia: I've updated it but I've not put the client IP inside because the ip is provided by DHCP
[01:23] <ikonia> ahh got you
[01:23] <johny5> If I am doing the raid 1 system, and I leave two partitions (one on each disk) separate and install /boot on one, then use the raid software to copy it to the other, will I have problems?
[01:23] <Tidus> Lattyware, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nv" in the video driver section to "nvidia"
[01:23] <unagi> chmod /media/External?
[01:23] <ikonia> in that case that could be a little bit o fthe slow down
[01:23] <Lattyware> Tidus: I said, I am using the nvidia drivers. That's not it.
[01:23] <Tidus> Lattyware, just because the nvidia drivers are installed doesn't mean xorg.conf gets updated automatically
[01:23] <Lattyware> I am using Xinerama, could that cause a problem?
[01:23] <Lattyware> Tidus: I know, but xorg is right.
[01:23] <DarkSpecter> anyone familiar with alsa and iec958 ?
[01:23] <BeOSMrX> i choose to use this channel because of the large amount of linux users, not just ubuntu and I have a better chance of getting support here
[01:23] <Lattyware> Tidus: I edited it myself.
[01:23] <unagi> my god this is annoying
[01:24] <SoulPropagation> BeOSMrX: ##linux
[01:24] <Lattyware> BeOSMrX: No you don't, because we know about ubuntu.
[01:24] <Tidus> you have to change nv to nvidia and go uncomment the load glx part
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> BeOSMrX: well, ##linux is fairly active to.
[01:24] <Xyc0> BeOSMrX: yes, ubuntu does have a lot of support
[01:24] <unagi> all i want to do is back up data from my ubuntu before i reformat
[01:24] <jessica> hey, has anyone got keychain going in here in such a manner that it starts automagically at boot?
[01:24] <rhombus> unagi is delicious.
[01:24] <ShackJack> uuu-naaaag-iiiii
[01:24] <nalioth> BeOSMrX: then please ask your support question (but try to ask in general terms)
[01:24] <JayRoe> nickrud, how do I edit the secondary screen?
[01:24] <hexstar> unagi: you don't have to reformat
[01:24] <Flannel> jessica: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager#head-41669d33dd37ace3464ac217a60ffac444fff514
[01:24] <unagi> thats not what everyone else is saying
[01:24] <DarkRamon> hello.. Im having some issues.. when I do glxinfo it seems my 3d acceleration is enabled... but trying to configure cedega, it gives me an error when trying the tests
[01:24] <BeOSMrX> okay I've diid my due research and work to try and make what I need to work allready
[01:24] <hexstar> unagi: did you run the fsck's?
[01:24] <jessica> Flannel: i'm not talking about network manager.
[01:24] <DarkRamon> it says that 3d acceleration is not enabled
[01:24] <unagi> i ran the commands u gave but i still have overlapping partitions
[01:24] <moox> ikonia: thanks for your help, I'll look a bit on google
[01:24] <System79> BeOSMrX:What do you need support on anyway
[01:24] <unagi> hexstar: yes
[01:24] <BeOSMrX> mounting my camera
[01:24] <ShackJack> unagi: gparted not working to resize those partitions? That's surprising...
[01:25] <ikonia> moox: no problem,glad you see what I'm saying
[01:25] <christen> Can anyone help me with a scanner?
[01:25] <jessica> Flannel: I'm talking about KEYRING. for caching SSH keys.
[01:25] <nickrud> JayRoe, I thought I knew this stuff, but I see I'm in need of a refresher. Luckily, I have nothing else to do
[01:25] <Lattyware> SoulPropagation/Tidus/sauvin: Any ideas as to why it isn't working
[01:25] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: in ubuntu your camera would just mount automatically.  I would expect the same in Mandriva.  Otherwise it is probably something like mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/camera  (you'll have to create /mnt/camera)
[01:25] <hexstar> unagi: oh, what did fsck say when done?
[01:25] <unagi> gparted doesnt show the partitions ShackJack
[01:25] <SoulPropagation> Lattyware: I'm all out
[01:25] <JayRoe> nickrud :D
[01:25] <Lattyware> SoulPropagation: OK, thanks anyway
[01:25] <ikonia> unagi: if your partition table is dead - you'll have to rebuild your disk system
[01:25] <unagi> everythign seemed to work fine hexstar
[01:25] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: or your camera doesn't have a standard USB HD interface (my brother's Nikon didn't, had to use an external card reader)
[01:25] <ShackJack> BeOSMrX: In unbuntu to mount your camera just plug it in. Can't speak for Mandriva :)
[01:25] <Tidus> Lattyware, have you checked to make sure the option to load glx is uncommented in xorg.conf, as well as leaving dri *COMMENTED*
[01:25] <hexstar> oh...then I guess your prtition table is dead
[01:25] <hexstar> ::(
[01:25] <unagi> ok....so now what
[01:25] <hexstar> :(
[01:25] <Lattyware> Tidus: Yes, definatly.
[01:25] <BeOSMrX> my camera says its USB mass storage in KDE info
[01:25] <sauvin> I can't talk knowledgeably about nvidia or UT; I had problems with ATI Radeon and can testify that there's a bit of configuring involved even though the drivers are downloaded and loaded.
[01:26] <Tidus> and you've changed the driver from nv to nvidia...
[01:26] <hexstar> well, get a external drive and move your /home over
[01:26] <Flannel> jessica: right, it's the same thing.  libpam-keyring is how you use your login (via pam) to autheticate your keyring
[01:26] <ShackJack> BeOSMrX: Your run KDE?
[01:26] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: it should mount automatically
[01:26] <BeOSMrX> ya
[01:26] <DarkRamon> Im hanving some issues... when doing the glxinfo it shows that 3d acceleration is enabled. But when tyring the tests on cedega the only test that fails is the one of the 3d acceleration.. what could be happening?
[01:26] <unagi> i have an external drive and it wont let me write anything to it
[01:26] <joeamined> does mozilla-plugin-vlc package enable reading quicktime files in firefox ?
[01:26] <Tidus> as well as went out into the terminal, made sure the module nvidia is loaded "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[01:26] <nalioth> BeOSMrX: tried #kde ?
[01:26] <hexstar> unagi: try right clicking it and see if it says anything about making it readwrite
[01:26] <unagi> so can anyone help me figure this out?
[01:26] <ShackJack> BeOSMrX: Oy! At the very loeast you should be scamming in the kubuntu channel - ubuntu runs GNOME by default...
[01:26] <nalioth> BeOSMrX: or #kubuntu ?
[01:26] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> so ya the issue is i can't grab the corner of any box  ( ie: program, web pages .. yes i am using beryl
[01:27] <Falstius> unagi: is it formated ntfs?  Look into ntfs-3g
[01:27] <unagi> i have ntfs-3g installed
[01:27] <sauvin> Shack, I ran kde under ubuntu ten seconds after installing it.
[01:27] <BeOSMrX> well I installed autofs
[01:27] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: I believe that is a bug with beryl and some gfx cards unfortunately
[01:27] <BeOSMrX> but it wont restart, it says FAILED
[01:27] <abstrakt> or you guys could just /ignore BeOSMrX
[01:27] <hexstar> unagi: using a linux formatted partition would yield better results
[01:27] <Amon-san> hi, had a harddisk crash (winXP) and i want to save as many files as possible. what program would i use? curently operationg from a ubuntu installation i made on the fly on another disk
[01:27] <abstrakt> if it really bothers you that much, don't help him
[01:27] <unagi> i cant do that at the moment
[01:27] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: you shouldn't need autofs.  And that has to be configured for each drive I believe.
[01:27] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: on ubuntu it will mount automatically
[01:27] <Lattyware> Could anyone help: glxgears fails, despite nVidia drivers being loaded (the logo shows). Xinemara with three screens, latest nVidia drivers from nVidia, and an 8600GTS and 7600GS.
[01:27] <unagi> i have important data on the drive
[01:27] <hexstar> Amon-san: just mount eh xp drive
[01:27] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hestar: ok i can live with that... ..sorta.. is there a fix?
[01:27] <nickrud> JayRoe, http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/sabayon\
[01:27] <BeOSMrX> yeah, i am considering to install ubuntu
[01:27] <Amon-san> it won't mount
[01:28] <Amon-san> i get lots of read errors
[01:28] <jimqode> Lattyware, pastebin your xorg.conf
[01:28] <moox> ikonia: it is the problem ! I've put the current IP of the client into the DNS configuration and the time is now 50msec (before it was more that 4000msec)
[01:28] <unagi> so i have ntfs-3g installed and it still says i dont have permission to write to it....so now what
[01:28] <rhombus> how can a system not have a root user?
[01:28] <velko> BeOSMrX, search google for "your_camera_model linux" and see if it is supported at all. if you - find out which driver (kernel module) you need for it. after that load it "modprobe my_kernel_module". enjoy
[01:28] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: not that I know of...I ran into such troubles as well and could only find mentions of it being a bug and that people have reported it
[01:28] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstarL it just started to happen like right after i inalled them two pks
[01:28] <ikonia> moox: well done
[01:28] <ShackJack> rhombus: You don't you need one to do amdin stuff :)
[01:28] <Falstius> unagi: have you tried writing to it as root?  Did you check mount to see that it is mounted RW?
[01:28] <Tidus> Lattyware, lemme find my xorg.conf and it'll show you how i had my system set up with an nvidia running a monitor + tv as well as an old ati card for a second monitor...
[01:28] <sauvin> rhombus, are you talking about being unable to su - ?
[01:28] <unagi> ive tried sudo and it said omitting
[01:28] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: which two? the libssl ones?
[01:28] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> yeah
[01:28] <rhombus> sauvin: well, that... and just in general -- I thought the kernel required a root user.
[01:29] <Tidus> there's 2 ways of setting up xinerama with nvidia cards
[01:29] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: that's weird
[01:29] <Falstius> unagi: cp -r dir /media/disk-1  (or something like that)
[01:29] <Tidus> one is using xorg's method, the other is nvidia's twinview
[01:29] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: verry
[01:29] <nalioth> rhombus: there are none of those in Ubuntu by default
[01:29] <rhombus> typing 'sudo' every time has a way of getting tedious
[01:29] <moox> bye
[01:29] <JayRoe> nickrud I can't find anything about changing the settings to be screen specific
[01:29] <ikonia> rhombus: sudo -i
[01:29] <Falstius> rhombus: sudo su -
[01:29] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> never b4 with this card have i had this issue
[01:29] <rhombus> nalioth: yeah, I get that -- but how is that even possible? How is that done, technically?
[01:29] <sauvin> Ubuntu DOES have a root user, but logging in AS root from an xterm isn't obvious :)
[01:29] <hexstar> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: I think it might just be coincidince because I can't think of a reason why beryl would rely on libssl
[01:29] <Lattyware> jimqode: http://pastebin.com/d5844f3ca
[01:29] <unagi> cp: cannot create directory `/media/External/ubuntu': Read-only file system
[01:29] <nalioth> rhombus: super user privileges via the 'sudo' command
[01:29] <Falstius> rhombus: it is easy, just don't set a root password.
[01:29] <ikonia> unagi: its mounted read only
[01:29] <rhombus> even sudo has to a refer to a rights profile -- where does it get that, if there's no root user?
[01:29] <Amon-san> hexstar: any other ideas?
[01:29] <nickrud> JayRoe, looking
[01:30] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hexstar: i was thinknig the same thing... hummm
[01:30] <JayRoe> nickrud can I prevent gnome-panels from running at all?
[01:30] <unagi> and so i fix that by doing what ikonia
[01:30] <sveweck> hi. is there a package that I can install to get common webserver software like apache2 and php (analogous to build-essential for building)?
[01:30] <hexstar> unagi, right click drive and see if there's a make readwrite option?
[01:30] <rhombus> Flastius: so, there is a root user?
[01:30] <nalioth> rhombus: no
[01:30] <hexstar> there's a terminal command we can do too unagi
[01:30] <Falstius> unagi: you'll have to mount it manually ... what drive letter does it have?
[01:30] <Tidus> ok i see a problem right here
[01:30] <ikonia> unagi: I've told you about 4 times, if your partition tables are overlappying your data is worthless, so you'll have to rebuild
[01:30] <Sidlet> is there an extension for nautilus to view RAW images?
[01:30] <Falstius> rhombus: ofcourse.
[01:30] <Tidus> too many device sections
[01:30] <christen> Can anyone help with installing a scanner?
[01:30] <nalioth> rhombus: the first installed user has 'super user privileges'
[01:30] <Tidus> you only need ONE for each head
[01:30] <ikonia> unagi: if its mounting it read only and fsck won't fix it, that suggests there is a fatal problem
[01:30] <unagi> ok ikonia dont try to help anymore because you are confused
[01:30] <Falstius> unagi: er, drive name (/dev/sdb1 or some such)
[01:30] <rhombus> now I'm getting mixed messages here, which implies that nobody really knows
[01:30] <DarkRamon> hello?... It seems that my 3d acceleration with nvidia is working. it shows it on the glxinfo and on the nvidia-settings  . When trying to install cedega, it does some tests and all of them passed but the 3d acceleartion says failed
[01:30] <BeOSMrX> Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ10		SD/MMC	USB Mass Storage my camera is supported
[01:30] <ikonia> unagi: I'm not confused
[01:30] <jimqode> Lattyware, do you really have 2 video cards and 3 screens?
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> unagi: lmao..
[01:30] <unagi> yea ikonia you are
[01:30] <Lattyware> jimqode: Yes.
[01:31] <nalioth> rhombus: technically, ALL *nix OS' have 'root users'
[01:31] <ikonia> I assure you I'm not
[01:31] <jessica> Flannel: i'm asking about caching ssh key passphrases. not wifi passwords
[01:31] <Tidus> Lattyware, there's part of the problem.  too many device sections.  only need one per head
[01:31] <rhombus> nalioth: that was my point
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> unagi: i highly doubt ikonia is confused
[01:31] <unagi> ok then tell me what i am trying to do at the moment ikonia
[01:31] <Lattyware> Tidus: Yes, it appears to have created more devices.
[01:31] <Lattyware> odd.
[01:31] <rhombus> nalioth: so it must exist somewhere
[01:31] <ikonia> you've just mounted your disk onto /media
[01:31] <nalioth> rhombus: in Ubuntu the primary user has the same powers as 'root' via the 'sudo' command
[01:31] <dystopianray> sveweck: run 'sudo aptitude' then go to 'Tasks -> Unrecognised tasks -> lamp-server' and instlal that
[01:31] <Lattyware> I'll remove mine.
[01:31] <Lattyware> It's obviously happier with that
[01:31] <velko> rhombus, the root user is created but has no password per default. the first user can execute suuper user commands via "sudo command"
[01:31] <hexstar> well guys the thing is the read only drive is the external not the bad internal drives...
[01:31] <sparr> Can anyone recommend a mail client that can handle deleting old messages from the server while keeping them locally on an IMAP account?
[01:31] <Tidus> as well as too many screen sections
[01:31] <rhombus> yeah, I get that
[01:31] <Flannel> jessica: libpam-keyring is the interface between your keyring, and your login password.  Just because it's usually used in wifi doesn't mean that's the only place.
[01:31] <unagi> what is it i am trying to do ikonia since you arent confused
[01:32] <rhombus> what I don't get it is... how I could become the root user if I so desired
[01:32] <ShackJack> rhombus: And you can su root :)
[01:32] <Tidus> take twinview out of the options period
[01:32] <ikonia> unagi: your tyring to access your data and copy data around on /media that you've just mouonted a disk on
[01:32] <Tidus> breaks glx
[01:32] <BeOSMrX> i just don't understand where it is exactly, so I can mount it how do I know ?
[01:32] <velko> rhombus, sudo su
[01:32] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: you don't mount a camera
[01:32] <ShackJack> rhombus: Though I don't think you can use GNOME session as root...
[01:32] <nickrud> JayRoe, yes, use the remove button on the session window
[01:32] <Flannel> rhombus: Ubuntu doesn't use the root account.  But if you want a root shell, `sudo -i`
[01:32] <unagi> so what does the partition table have to do with my external drive
[01:32] <rhombus> wow
[01:32] <nalioth> rhombus: you'd need to install Ubuntu using the 'advanced mode' and enable the root account then
[01:32] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: check dmesg
[01:32] <Falstius> unagi: just do 'sudo mount -o remount,rw -t ntfs3g /media/External
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> unagi: lol, and you think ikonia is confused?
[01:32] <rhombus> it works
[01:32] <dystopianray> ikonia: you can mount a camera
[01:32] <rhombus> the sudo su, I mean
[01:32] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak:  I can't be bothered with it
[01:32] <jessica> Flannel: well then do you have any documentation that would assist me in setting it up to cache my RSA key passphrase?
[01:33] <dystopianray> ikonia: some will act like usb mass storage devices
[01:33] <rhombus> this root account is not borked? it will actually let me do things?
[01:33] <ikonia> dystopianray: you can, I agree
[01:33] <Tidus> Lattyware, take twinview out of the monitor's options as well
[01:33] <nalioth> rhombus: sudo su breaks things, and is redundant
[01:33] <ikonia> dystopianray: not his model though
[01:33] <nalioth> !tell rhombus about root
[01:33] <Lattyware> ok, everything sorted as you said
[01:33] <jessica> Flannel: I didn't see anything relevent in the documentation you gave me
[01:33] <Lattyware> restarting x.
[01:33] <Tidus> rhombus, if you need a root shell, just type sudo -i
[01:33] <BeOSMrX> dystopianray: it shows in dmesg
[01:33] <sveweck> dystopianray: well, I'm using Kubuntu (Adept is the package manager). Is lamp-server a metapackage? I can't find it as such...?
[01:33] <hexstar> So...unagi do mount -t ntfs -w /dev/drivename
[01:33] <BeOSMrX> usb-storage: device found at 4
[01:33] <JayRoe> nickrud, I don't have it in the start programs tab, I only have it under actual session. Does that matter?
[01:33] <rhombus> so, better to use sudo -i than sudo su
[01:33] <rhombus> ?
[01:33] <Tidus> yes
[01:33] <Pici> rhombus: es.
[01:33] <dystopianray> rhombus: they will both achieve the same effect
[01:33] <Pici> er, ye.s
[01:33] <hexstar> that will make it rw unagi
[01:33] <Falstius> nalioth: what does sudo su break?  (not arguing, just curious)
[01:33] <Xyc0> What is the testing channel?  -dev or testing
[01:33] <bruenig> or sudo -s
[01:33] <rhombus> how does sudo su break things?
[01:33] <dystopianray> rhombus: the root account is there, per usual, it just has no password
[01:33] <dystopianray> rhombus: it doesn't
[01:33] <bruenig> Xyc0, +1
[01:34] <rhombus> oh.
[01:34] <BaD_CrC> sveweck: yes, it's a meta package for apache, php & mysql
[01:34] <Falstius> hexstar: unagi: you need -t ntfs3d (-t ntfs will always be read only)
[01:34] <Pici> Xyc0: #ubuntu+1
[01:34] <dystopianray> rhombus: use whichever method you like
[01:34] <Falstius> er ntfs3g
[01:34] <nickrud> JayRoe, no, those are two different lists
[01:34] <Xyc0> thanks :D
[01:34] <hexstar> falstius: ah, wasn't sure what the specific one was for that driver thanks
[01:34] <rhombus> maybe I should switch to Ubuntu as my primary OS, since there are so many helpful people in the IRC channel :)
[01:34] <BeOSMrX> i think the camera is on `sda`
[01:34] <nalioth> Falstius: it breaks some functionality (otherwise, Ubuntu would have a standard root/user type system)
[01:34] <bruenig> what was the argument about sudo su, I didn't see it?
[01:34] <BaD_CrC> man, i really should do something constructive today besides sit here on my computer all day...
[01:34] <hexstar> BeOSMrX: there has to be a number, sda#
[01:34] <m1r> rhombus , thumb up
[01:35] <dystopianray> BeOSMrX: check dmesg
[01:35] <rhombus> This is the busiest IRC channel I have ever seen
[01:35] <BaD_CrC> procrastination... i'll quit procrastinating tomorrow.
[01:35] <rhombus> nuts
[01:35] <JayRoe> nickrud, I mean it's only in the actual sessions tab, but if I remove it from there, won't it just start again at the next boot?
[01:35] <ikonia> hexstar: not if its not a mass storage device and doesn't have a partition
[01:35] <unagi> hexstar:  that didnt work
[01:35] <unagi> see
[01:35] <ikonia> hexstar: ie - its a camera
[01:35] <velko> bruenig, i'm still curious why "sudo su" breaks things. i know it was not your point but some people here made it
[01:35] <BeOSMrX> i do I know exactly, like camera is on sda1
[01:35] <unagi> ikonia is confused
[01:35] <hexstar> what did it output unagi?
[01:35] <bruenig> velko, yes I am as well
[01:35] <ikonia> unagi: I assure you I'm not
[01:35] <captainm> BeOSMrX: dmesg | tail
[01:35] <unagi> a bunch of commands
[01:35] <nickrud> JayRoe, that session tab determines what gets run. It runs the items listed there at startup.
[01:35] <dystopianray> velko: there is nothing wrong with sudo su
[01:35] <velko> bruenig, and why?
[01:35] <hexstar> did you type it like I said?
[01:35] <BeOSMrX> dmesg | tail
[01:35] <bruenig> velko, I am with you here confused
[01:35] <unagi> the partitions are there ikonia
[01:35] <nickrud> JayRoe, nothing like testing
[01:36] <ikonia> unagi: I didn't say they where not
[01:36] <Tidus> nalioth, personally, i just unlock root and use su like normal ... sudo annoys me
[01:36] <velko> bruenig, ok. i misunderstood you
[01:36] <BeOSMrX>  sda: sda1
[01:36] <JayRoe> nickrud, I'm gonna give it a shot. brb
[01:36] <hexstar> unagi, first use umount to unmount the drive then do the mount command like I said
[01:36] <BeOSMrX> soits' sda1 then
[01:36] <YossarianFan> ok..so I go into Terminal and type 'ntfsfix' and it gives me options and this example: For example: ntfsfix /dev/hda6 --- I have two hard drives that need the 'If you don't dual boot, get ntfsfix from the ntfsprogs package, run it on the windows device, and add the 'force' option in /etc/fstab for your windows device.' option. One is showing in Computer as 'Local Disk' the other as '74.5 GB Volume: 80gig'
[01:36] <rhombus> Tidus: I would be with you there.
[01:36] <bruenig> a root user is necessary for somethings like cups web interface
[01:36] <unagi> so explain to me why i cant back up data before i reformat ikonia
[01:36] <nalioth> Tidus: to each their own
[01:36] <BaD_CrC> a.u.c is going slow today. i didn't see any updates.
[01:36] <bruenig> some things*
[01:36] <JayRoe> nickrud will it be disabled if I mark it as trash?
[01:36] <nickrud> first time I did an rm -rf in the wrong place, I installed sudo
[01:36] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: just because you're french doesn't mean you have to use Mandriva ;)
[01:36] <hexstar> unagi: s/he is simply saying that because the partition table is gone your data is probably toast
[01:36] <ikonia> unagi: if your partitions are overlapping there is a good probabilyt of file system corruption
[01:36] <BeOSMrX> mhat file system type do I mount the camera as ?
[01:36] <nalioth> rhombus: if you learn 'sudo' there is nothing lost
[01:36] <ShackJack> unagi: If you can mount the drive you should be able to back up :)
[01:37] <nalioth> rhombus: but there is a security increase
[01:37] <Tidus> i can use either method
[01:37] <YossarianFan> so how exactly what do I need to type in terminal to get the ntfsfix to work on each drive?
[01:37] <unagi> that doesnt make sense because im able to access the data
[01:37] <rhombus> sudo -i is the same as su, then?
[01:37] <nickrud> JayRoe, not necessary, I don't think. Just remove it from the list.
[01:37] <bruenig> also if you wanted to use something other than gdm, maybe slim which I prefer, you need a root user to shutdown and reboot from the login screen
[01:37] <ShackJack> unagi: Though yeah maybe some corruption there...
[01:37] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: probably vfat, but it should detect automatically
[01:37] <Tidus> rhombus, yes, sudo -i does the exact same thing as "su -"
[01:37] <hexstar> rhombus: no it's not, su is only temporary priv escalation
[01:37] <tapas> noooooo
[01:37] <nalioth> rhombus: sudo -i and sudo -s put you into a super user terminal
[01:37] <ikonia> unagi: you /think/ you can access the data, that doesn't mean its all there and ok
[01:37] <dystopianray> rhombus: they achieve the same thing
[01:37] <BeOSMrX> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[01:37] <ikonia> that also doesn't mean its not
[01:37] <dystopianray> rhombus: they will both give you a root shell
[01:37] <tapas> why doesn't my ubuntu kernel have /proc/config.gz support?
[01:37] <unagi> there it goes
[01:38] <ShackJack> dystopianray: What about sudo root :P
[01:38] <rhombus> what's confusing about the way Ubuntu is packaged is that the password for sudo is not clearly explained
[01:38] <dystopianray> tapas: the config is in /boot/
[01:38] <crimsun> tapas: because it has /boot/config-$(uname -r) support.
[01:38] <JayRoe> nickrud, I removed it from the list and the panels dissapeared. I'm sure the actual session tab only affects this session. How do I boot from the terminal?
[01:38] <captainm> BeOSMrX: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera
[01:38] <tapas> yaya
[01:38] <nalioth> rhombus: it tells you at first use of the terminal
[01:38] <rhombus> if there's no root user, and no root password, then what's the password?
[01:38] <tapas> but /proc/config.gz is so much more cool :)
[01:38] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: you can try mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera  but it probably won't work (it should have automatically detected vfat).  Instead the camera isn't compatibile.  Get an external card reader.
[01:38] <Tidus> rhombus, sudo asks for your user password
[01:38] <rhombus> I must have missed that message.
[01:38] <crimsun> whatev.
[01:38] <hexstar> rhombus: use sudo -i
[01:38] <ikonia> rhombus: three is a root user
[01:38] <dystopianray> rhombus: the sudo password is always your own password
[01:38] <ShackJack> rhombus: Same as default user...
[01:38] <nalioth> rhombus: all the GUI things that require 'super user' ask for YOUR password
[01:38] <nickrud> JayRoe, you don't need to boot, just log out and back in. sudo reboot will reboot
[01:38] <rhombus> yeah, I figured that out with trial and error.
[01:38] <rhombus> :P
[01:39] <dystopianray> rhombus: there is only one password setup when you install
[01:39] <Tidus> but i can see how it is confusing
[01:39] <Falstius> unagi: it worked?
[01:39] <bruenig> rhombus, if you are fresh from windows, there is no problem as you probably don't even have a concept of root user, if you are coming from another distro, it can be confusing, although I use sudo on other distros too but mainly as a means of circumventing passwords with NOPASSWD
[01:39] <Tidus> because i did the same stinkin thing lol
[01:39] <BeOSMrX> captainm: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[01:39] <hexstar> you can set the root password via sudo passwd root
[01:39] <sparkay> i cant watch divx/xvid movies , please help (new install)
[01:39] <Tidus> !codecs | sparkay
[01:39] <rhombus> bruenig: i am fresh from normal Linux ;)
[01:39] <ubotu> sparkay: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:39] <hexstar> BeOSMrX: try fdisk -l /dev/sda
[01:39] <unagi> yea
[01:39] <unagi> im backing up now
[01:39] <m1r> !java
[01:39] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[01:39] <rhombus> bruenig: and AIX :P
[01:39] <sveweck> Guys, is there a metapackage for common webserver stuff like Apache and PHP?
[01:40] <hexstar> !info apache
[01:40] <ubotu> apache: versatile, high-performance HTTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.34-4.1 (feisty), package size 384 kB, installed size 816 kB
[01:40] <rhombus> i don't have an issue with it, it's just confusing and I have to get used to it.
[01:40] <nickrud> !lamp
[01:40] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:40] <Falstius> unagi: good luck.
[01:40] <hexstar> !info php
[01:40] <ubotu> Package php does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:40] <BeOSMrX> hexstar: it lists nothing!
[01:40] <dystopianray> sveweck: run 'sudo aptitude' go to 'Tasks -> Unrecognised Tasks -> lamp-server'
[01:40] <unagi> ty
[01:40] <rhombus> but anything that can enhance security is good stuff in my book.
[01:40] <hexstar> BeOSMrX: then that isn't the right name of the camera
[01:40] <rhombus> just as long as it doesn't make my job hard.
[01:40] <hexstar> :(
[01:40] <bruenig> I don't know that it really enhances security all that much
[01:40] <hexstar> unagi: np :)
[01:40] <sveweck> dystopianray: well, I'm using Kubuntu (Adept is the package manager). Is lamp-server a metapackage? I can't find it as such...?
[01:40] <unagi> ty hex
[01:40] <BeOSMrX> i did lsusb but im not sure how to tell what device is my camera
[01:40] <hexstar> unagi: np :)
[01:40] <dystopianray> sveweck: do as I said
[01:40] <Lattyware> Nope, still not working
[01:40] <abstrakt> what's the diff between gstreamer-plugins-ugly and it's multiverse variant?
[01:41] <bruenig> I think it is actually used because it is more newb friendly, just click on synaptic and put your user password instead of a different password
[01:41] <hexstar> BeOSMrX: you could disconnect everything but the camera from the usb ports...
[01:41] <bruenig> less confusing to new users
[01:41] <YossarianFan> >_>
[01:41] <BeOSMrX> adn I also tried dmesg | tail
[01:41] <unagi> the maya folder is quite large for it to 'not be there'
[01:41] <captainm> BeOSMrX: look at the size, using fdisk -l
[01:41] <dystopianray> sveweck: actually try this: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[01:41] <BeOSMrX> well I know what the camera is
[01:41] <ShackJack> abstrakt: You can check version #'s in Synaptic...
[01:41] <BeOSMrX> it shows in the dmesg
[01:41] <Flannel> sveweck: lamp is a metapackage in Seveas' repositories.  Otherwise you just have to install the componentsyourself (all four of them): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:41] <khatuido> someone know how antialising amsn on amd64?
[01:41] <BeOSMrX> SCSI device sda: 1983999 512-byte hdwr sectors (1016 MB)
[01:41] <JayRoe> nickrud, the panels are back
[01:41] <velko> bruenig, i seem to remember that is was done to prevent people logging in as the root user and do everything "unrestricted"
[01:42] <sveweck> dystopianray: thanks
[01:42] <Lattyware> Could anyone help: glxgears fails, despite nVidia drivers being loaded (the logo shows). Xinemara with three screens, latest nVidia drivers from nVidia, and an 8600GTS and 7600GS. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/d7a914eae
[01:42] <Falstius> BeOSMrX: you tried mount /dev/sda /mnt/camera  ?
[01:42] <nickrud> JayRoe, a sec
[01:42] <sveweck> Flannel: hahaha, ok :) thanks
[01:42] <BeOSMrX> mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt/camera mount: special device /dev/sda does not exist
[01:42] <nalioth> bruenig: a brute force attack that has the user name "root" is halfway to success
[01:42] <khatuido> someone know how antialising amsn on amd64?
[01:42] <abstrakt> ShackJack, ... er, so the multiverse variant wouldn't include any different plugins, just different versions?
[01:42] <BaD_CrC> i'm really beginning to hate kde dependencies
[01:43] <velko> nalioth, your comment does not make much sense
[01:43] <ShackJack> abstrakt: Well it might have extra codec support, but you'd have to check changelog for that... generally multiverse will be newer version....
[01:43] <abstrakt> BaD_CrC, hahaha, that's cuz KDE sucks
[01:43] <captainm> BeOSMrX: whoops, should be mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera
[01:43] <Falstius> captainm: not according to dmesg ..
[01:43] <bruenig> nalioth, if people are able to get that kind of access to your machine, then the difference is probably minimal, I think most hacking techniques would include trying to change the root password, how often do you hear of brute force linux attacks
[01:43] <BaD_CrC> abstrakt: just using kde programs in gnome
[01:43] <BeOSMrX> mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera
[01:43] <BeOSMrX> mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[01:43] <JayRoe> nickrud, I can right click the panel and select "remove this panel".  It then tells me that deleting the panel, would delete it for good, but after each reboot it's always back.
[01:44] <abstrakt> BaD_CrC, ahhh, well... yeah there are issues with that too
[01:44] <abstrakt> BaD_CrC, amarok is nice though
[01:44] <sauvin> BeOSMrX, what does lsusb say?
[01:44] <uber_> i'm uusing ubuntu server and I stuck the network card in, added it to the interfaces file and now I cant figure out what module to insmod
[01:44] <nalioth> velko: sudo helps security in Ubuntu by removing the 'root' user.  if the attacker has to gain both username and pass, it'll take 'em quite a bit longer
[01:44] <abstrakt> that's about it
[01:44] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: I've said about 10 times to you that googling your camera make suggest you don't have to mount it
[01:44] <nalioth> bruenig: i have no root password  :)
[01:44] <ikonia> BeOSMrX: and #mandriva is active again
[01:44] <BaD_CrC> abstrakt: i've grown to like Exaile now that 0.8.10 is out
[01:44] <BeOSMrX> aww shat
[01:44] <uber_> is there a simple way on server to just say 'hey, there's a new network card' or do I have to figure out what module to install myself?
[01:44] <nickrud> JayRoe, yeah, the panel is a gut level thing in gnome. Not done looking
[01:44] <BeOSMrX> my c amera battery died, that's what!
[01:45] <bruenig> nalioth, I need it for cups web administration and for slim
[01:45] <captainm> Falstius: I could be verry wrong here but isn't it also sda1 even when there is one partition?
[01:45] <Falstius> captainm: yes, but you can also have no partitions and just use the whole disk.
[01:45] <ikonia> captainm correct
[01:45] <Lattyware> Could anyone help: glxgears fails, despite nVidia drivers being loaded (the logo shows). Xinemara with three screens, latest nVidia drivers from nVidia, and an 8600GTS and 7600GS. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/d7a914eae
[01:45] <JayRoe> nickrud, if only there was a way to make the changes in gconf-editor permanent...
[01:45] <CCmonster> sup sup
[01:45] <uber_> i'm basically going through the output of modprobe -l right now to figure out what driver is the best
[01:45] <ikonia> Lattyware: dri over xinemara is a common failure
[01:45] <uber_> but they're all named funy
[01:45] <Falstius> ikonia: captainm: there are devices which come up as /dev/sda (or whatever) and not sda1.  I have a usb key like that.
[01:46] <Lattyware> ikonia: I'm not using DRI?
[01:46] <nickrud> JayRoe, they are permanent. But, some are overwritten from the defaults if they're missing, which is what sabayon creates.
[01:46] <ikonia> Lattyware: but glxgears probably wants to
[01:46] <Tidus> Lattyware, welcome back
[01:46] <CCmonster> i got a question....is there a way to make windows the auto boot instead of ubuntu?
[01:46] <Lattyware> Tidus: Hey.
[01:46] <uber_> CCmonster, edit grub
[01:46] <Tidus> Lattyware, here's my xorg.conf for you.  http://tidus.alive-awake.com/config/xorg.conf
[01:46] <uber_> grub.conf
[01:46] <ikonia> CCmonster: change the defailt option in your grub men.lst
[01:46] <velko> uber_, there is no such way. but your search will be faster if you ask google about the module
[01:46] <CCmonster> how do i do that ikonia
[01:46] <ikonia> uber_: menu.lst - not grub.conf
[01:46] <Falstius> CCmonster: edit /boot/grub/menu.1st, change the line default=0 to be the number corresponding to windows (counting from 0)
[01:46] <Tidus> Lattyware, nvidia card powering monitor and tv out, secondary ati card for second monitor
[01:46] <uber_> when the hell did that change?
[01:47] <uber_> geeze
[01:47] <ikonia> CCmonster: edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:47] <Tidus> glx worked just fine on that config
[01:47] <abstrakt> huh... glxgears gave me about 2750 FPS
[01:47] <umop-apisdn> argh. how do i go about searching for files of a specific type? ie, i want to find all my jpg files so i can throw them in my slideshow screensaver
[01:47] <Tidus> glxgears isn't a benchmark
[01:47] <Falstius> uber_: creating a symbolic link from menu.1st to grub.conf was a RH thing ( I believe)
[01:47] <Tidus> new releases of it even say that in the controlling terminal
[01:47] <uber_> ahhh
[01:47] <abstrakt> Tidus, well... sort of is... not the best benchmark but it sort of is
[01:47] <hexstar> umop-apisdn: *.jpg
[01:47] <abstrakt> Tidus, running a game is a much better one
[01:47] <umop-apisdn> hexstar: uhm...
[01:47] <uber_> velko, yeah, I'll try google; using lynx right now.
[01:48] <umop-apisdn> hexstar: where would i type that?
[01:48] <BeOSMrX> this little camera doesnt charge from the usb port so I i think that i have a good chance of sda1 or sda being the usb mass storage drive, until then ill be on standby here so thankyou ppl for that help so far !
[01:48] <train_> hmmm
[01:48] <Tidus> abstrakt, the quake4 timedemo is a good benchmark tho
[01:48] <CCmonster> how do i figure which number in the list is windows??
[01:48] <YossarianFan> my last problem...and then I'll probably shut up for a day or two. Lmfao.
[01:48] <gerro> abstrakt: I just did glxgears and it says 5926 is that good?
[01:48] <hexstar> umop-apisdn: click the x menu and click search
[01:48] <velko> uber_, press "g" and type "www.google.com" :-)
[01:48] <abstrakt> gerro, well it's better than mine :)
[01:48] <abstrakt> gerro, i've got a pretty old gfx card tho
[01:48] <Tidus> CCmonster, first entry is always 0
[01:48] <uber_> velko, yep.
[01:48] <abstrakt> gerro, what do you have? 6800?
[01:48] <Pici> gerro: glxgears is not a benchmark
[01:48] <gerro> abstrakt: should I have xchat off when I do it?
[01:48] <Tidus> CCmonster, it's just sequential down the list
[01:48] <Lattyware> Tidus: Yeah, I can't see anything you have done that I havn't that would effect it...
[01:48] <CCmonster> how do i know the order...without rebooting and just looking
[01:48] <abstrakt> gerro, naw, none of that should really matter
[01:49] <umop-apisdn> hexstar: huh?
[01:49] <Falstius> CCmonster: count the number of lines that start with 'title'
[01:49] <FactTech> Question: I know the file system will be checked every thirty boots, but is there a way to force it to happen on the next boot?
[01:49] <abstrakt> gerro, as Tidus said though, running an actual game is a much better benchmark
[01:49] <umop-apisdn> hexstar: sorry if i'm being particularly dense, but those instructions didn't make any sense to me
[01:49] <ikonia> FactTech: tunefs
[01:49] <YossarianFan> so can someone who knows about ntfsprogs/ntfsfix help me a bit? :)
[01:49] <hexstar> umop-apisdn: are you using kde?
[01:49] <abstrakt> gerro, if you can run Quake 4 with everything pumped to the max at 60fps, then you've got a good video card :)
[01:49] <ikonia> YossarianFan: just ask the question
[01:49] <BeOSMrX_> abstrakt: PWN, my glx gears @ 3100.873 FPS
[01:49] <umop-apisdn> hexstar: no... this is #ubuntu, not #kubuntu
[01:49] <YossarianFan> ok
[01:49] <abstrakt> BeOSMrX_, what card?
[01:49] <FactTech> ikonia Thank you. Do I even need to worry about something like that? I got hit with a power outage and am thinking in Windows terms. :)
[01:49] <BeOSMrX_> 7800GS agp
[01:49] <hexstar> umop-apisdn: oh ok, sorry not really aquanted with gnome
[01:50] <bEnN> hey how do you get wireless net workin in ubuntu, and does it matter if its wpa?
[01:50] <CCmonster> i did gedit/boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:50] <YossarianFan> ok..so I go into Terminal and type 'ntfsfix' and it gives me options and this example: For example: ntfsfix /dev/hda6 --- I have two hard drives that need the 'If you don't dual boot, get ntfsfix from the ntfsprogs package, run it on the windows device, and add the 'force' option in /etc/fstab for your windows device.' option. One is showing in Computer as 'Local Disk' the other as '74.5 GB Volume: 80gig'. How do I get ntfsfix
[01:50] <abstrakt> BeOSMrX_, pwn? hmmm, pwn by a very marginal percentage though
[01:50] <CCmonster> is that correct?
[01:50] <gerro> abstrakt: its a laptop but it has nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce Go 7600]  (rev a1) under lspci, I probably should use a cooling dock if I do any heavy gaming
[01:50] <umop-apisdn> hexstar: that's cool. is there a console command?
[01:50] <CCmonster> it wont let me save
[01:50] <BoBothn> how do you get a command to run at at start up?
[01:50] <Falstius> umop-apisdn: to find all of the .jpg files in your home directory and all subdirectories, do find ~ -iname '*jpg'
[01:50] <BeOSMrX_> :)
[01:50] <ikonia> FactTech: always nice to check after an unclean shutdown, for a one of hit, just boot from the live cd and check them manually
[01:50] <uber_> gah; modprobe -l |egrep -i "(lne|tx)" shows nothing.
[01:50] <gerro> abstrakt: you play warzone? it pretty kool
[01:50] <hexstar> benn: some drivers don't support wpa
[01:50] <Tidus> abstrakt, i have a 128mb geforce 6800GS agp
[01:50] <bEnN> o crap
[01:50] <hexstar> umop-apisdn: locate *.jpg should work
[01:50] <trippndarift> Hi. I was wondering if anyone knew how to make a GNOME Panel totally hide itself. Right now it hides itself but I can still see about 3-4 pixels of the panel sticking down.
[01:50] <YossarianFan> I don't have WIndows anymore
[01:50] <CCmonster> whats anotheer editer..
[01:50] <YossarianFan> just Ubuntu
[01:50] <BoBothn> i need to run "echo "wolf.x86 0 0 direct">/proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss" when my pc starts how do i do that
[01:50] <CCmonster> besides gedit?
[01:50] <hexstar> Ccmonster: nano
[01:51] <abstrakt> BeOSMrX_, yeh, you "pwn"d me by a whopping 11%
[01:51] <uber_> hrm.  tulip could be it
[01:51] <unclephreak> im trying to install ubuntu on my computer but when i load ubuntu with the live cd i get the message "ata2: port failed to respond" anyone know why this is?
[01:51] <Tidus> CCmonster, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:51] <ikonia> CCmonster: vi/emacs/nano/ed
[01:51] <abstrakt> gerro, nope, never played that
[01:51] <Falstius> CCmonster: nano is pretty friendly
[01:51] <umop-apisdn> hexstar: woot, thanks
[01:51] <hexstar> umop-apisdn: np :)
[01:51] <Tidus> spacing does count
[01:51] <FactTech> ikonia Much obliged for the help!
[01:51] <BeOSMrX_> abstrakt: a defeat is a defeat ! wahoo for me
[01:51] <Latty> Nope, definatly fails.
[01:51] <unagi> ok peeps time to reformat
[01:51] <Latty> Could anyone help: glxgears fails, despite nVidia drivers being loaded (the logo shows). Xinemara with three screens, latest nVidia drivers from nVidia, and an 8600GTS and 7600GS. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/d7a914eae
[01:51] <ikonia> FactTech: welcome
[01:51] <gerro> abstrakt: http://wz2100.net/
[01:51] <unagi> ill see you in a bit
[01:51] <abstrakt> BeOSMrX_, uhhhh, wait... look who i'm talking to
[01:51] <BoBothn> CCmonster, pico is really easy
[01:51] <hexstar> nano pwnz :D
[01:51] <CCmonster> nano is fine.
[01:52] <Falstius> umop-apisdn: the only probably with locate is that it will only find files older than the last database update (generally daily)
[01:52] <umop-apisdn> hmm
[01:52] <CCmonster> i have a bluetooth keyboard/mouse..
[01:52] <BoBothn> i need to run "echo "wolf.x86 0 0 direct">/proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss" when my pc starts how do i do that
[01:52] <umop-apisdn> it also doesn't seem to have a catalog of my ntfs drive
[01:52] <CCmonster> and it wont let me choose anything in the grub menu
[01:52] <abstrakt> BeOSMrX_, you've been /ignored thanks for reminding me
[01:52] <ikonia> BoBothn: write an init script
[01:52] <CCmonster> the keyboard/mouse arent activated..
[01:52] <CCmonster> so im forced into ubuntu everytime.
[01:52] <Falstius> umop-apisdn: use find.  find /media/disk -iname '*jpg'
[01:52] <hexstar> ah yeah that works
[01:52] <abstrakt> hahahaha nano pwnz? lol
[01:53] <Tidus> BoBothn, the command you type to start ET (i believe its either 'et' or 'enemy-territory') is just a shell script
[01:53] <hexstar> yes it does :D
[01:53] <clusty> is there a way to resize a NTFS partition with parted?
[01:53] <abstrakt> hexstar, what does it own? pico?
[01:53] <Tidus> BoBothn, just add the command to the very beginning of that script
[01:53] <hexstar> everything :D
[01:53] <abstrakt> nano pwnz aids!
[01:53] <umop-apisdn> Falstius: double woot, you are my hero
[01:53] <hexstar> lol
[01:53] <YossarianFan> Dangit! Dinner is ready. I'll have to come back to ask my question again. *snivel* Thanks for the earlier help :)
[01:53] <abstrakt> hexstar, hahahahaha... you are a funny little man
[01:53] <ikonia> abstrakt: the channel is busy enough, can we drop the off topic insults
[01:53] <Falstius> umop-apisdn: find is your hero.  Learn it well and you'll seem like a linux master.
[01:54] <umop-apisdn> Falstius: thanks for the tip. i'll take your advice.
[01:54] <BoBothn> tidus it needs to be ran as sudo and i dont want to have to type my password in each time to play a game
[01:54] <Tidus> CCmonster, check in your bios settings for usb keyboard and mouse support
[01:54] <Lattyware> Could anyone help: glxgears fails, despite nVidia drivers being loaded (the logo shows). Xinemara with three screens, latest nVidia drivers from nVidia, and an 8600GTS and 7600GS. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/d7a914eae
[01:54] <CCmonster> unfort i cant right now...
[01:54] <Tidus> CCmonster, some times, if that's turned off, grub won't allow keyboard because simply it can't see it
[01:54] <CCmonster> because i only have the bluetooth keyboard
[01:55] <ikonia> Lattyware: ewhat actually happens when you run glxgears
[01:55] <Tidus> oh... bluetooth.
[01:55] <Tidus> ouch
[01:55] <CCmonster> i need a normal kb so i can do all that and set it up right..
[01:55] <Tidus> it's nice
[01:55] <hexstar> you can get tehm cheap on ebay ccmonster
[01:55] <CCmonster> i know.
[01:55] <Lattyware> ikonia: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[01:55] <CCmonster> so im looking at my menu.lst in nano..
[01:55] <Tidus> but i prefer my old microsoft wireless media desktop over a newer bluetooth set
[01:55] <CCmonster> and i dont see the title...bit
[01:55] <ikonia> Lattyware: ok - investiging
[01:56] <ikonia> CCmonster: you are looking for the line that says default 0
[01:56] <Tidus> simply because no drivers needed to activate its receiver
[01:56] <CCmonster> i see that line ikonia.
[01:56] <ikonia> CCmonster: change the 0 to 1,2,3,4,5 depending on what order your windows boot label is 0 is fht first 1 is the next etc etc
[01:56] <Lattyware> ikonia: Thanks
[01:56] <Tidus> that and the keyboard is a dream to type on
[01:56] <Falstius> ikonia: CCmonster: he needs to know what to change it to first.  CCmonster, you may have to scroll down pretty far.
[01:57] <Falstius> CCmonster: try "ctrl-W title"
[01:57] <Falstius> CCmonster: ctrl-W is for search.
[01:57] <kkrusty> has anyone used ubuntu on a dell inspiron 8500?
[01:57] <cein> 8600 here
[01:57] <cein> close enough? ;-p
[01:57] <CCmonster> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic
[01:57] <CCmonster> root            (hd1,1)
[01:57] <CCmonster> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=e3608773-4778-48be-97$
[01:57] <CCmonster> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
[01:57] <CCmonster> quiet
[01:57] <cein> oh wait
[01:57] <cein> 4600
[01:57] <CCmonster> ok.. i see this stuff..
[01:58] <CCmonster> is that the section im looking for?
[01:58] <dawn`chorus> good firefox tips: http://www.our-picks.com/archives/2007/02/06/firefox-can-be-faster-4-easy-tricks/
[01:58] <ikonia> CCmonster: you are looking for the line that says default 0
[01:58] <ikonia> CCmonster: change the 0 to 1,2,3,4,5 depending on what order your windows boot label is 0 is fht first 1 is the next etc etc
[01:58] <dawn`chorus> oops.  sry #ubuntu
[01:58] <Falstius> CCmonster: yeap.  Now just count the number of title lines before your windows one.  That is the number that goes in default=.
[01:58] <CCmonster> ikonia...i know. but i need to know which number to switch it too.
[01:58] <kkrusty> cein: what display adapter does it have?
[01:58] <ikonia> CCmonster: count
[01:58] <stittel> Hi! I have been helping arso_ and we get "GPG error: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty Release: Unknown error executing gpgv" and "GPG error: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>" during update. Key ring and date seems fine, any idea?
[01:58] <CCmonster> well falstius..it does a line break..and says...:
[01:59] <Falstius> CCmonster: you can paste to pastebin, not the channel.  Paste the whole file and I'll count for you.
[01:59] <ikonia> CCmonster: each title is "1" so if windows is the third one down the option is "2"
[01:59] <hexstar> !gpg | stittel
[01:59] <ubotu> stittel: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[01:59] <MikeRotch> hey can sumone take some time and help me install my audio drivers
[01:59] <MikeRotch> =)
[01:59] <CCmonster> !pastebin
[01:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:59] <Lattyware> Could anyone help: glxgears fails, despite nVidia drivers being loaded (the logo shows). Xinemara with three screens, latest nVidia drivers from nVidia, and an 8600GTS and 7600GS. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/d7a914eae
[01:59] <ikonia> CCmonster: we don't need to see your menu.lst
[01:59] <ikonia> Lattyware: still looking
[02:00] <ikonia> Lattyware: looks like a complex one
[02:00] <Lattyware> :/ Allways fun
[02:00] <Lattyware> Just wondering if anyone else had had an Epiphany :P
[02:00] <arso_> anyone?
[02:00] <ikonia> Lattyware: mp [tpn;r,
[02:00] <MikeRotch> hey can sumone take some time and help me install my audio drivers
[02:00] <hexstar> ?
[02:00] <stittel> hexstar: Thanks, but we don't want want to install GPG. We get this problem during "apt-get update" using nothing but official Ubuntu repositories.
[02:00] <ikonia> arso_: you where sent a link
[02:01] <hexstar> stittel: oh
[02:01] <arso_> ikonia: ~,~ english?
[02:01] <ikonia> yes
[02:01] <arso_> ikonia:  :P
[02:01] <arso_> ikonia:  umm, check stittel's question a bit up please.
[02:01] <Lattyware> ikonia: Heh. One to the right :P
[02:01] <ikonia> arso_: why ?
[02:01] <CCmonster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30734/plain/
[02:01] <Falstius> stittel: make sure you have the latest version of update-manager, then run gpg in the command line.  When it asks for a message hit ctrl-c.  Try to update again.
[02:02] <Tidus> stittel, you need gpg installed to verify the repository's keys
[02:02] <Sayers> Is there a place to add my computer to a list if I sell computers with Ubuntu?
[02:02] <kkrusty> Lattyware: Thanks for the new word 'Epiphany' :)
[02:02] <CCmonster> there ya go falstius
[02:02] <hexstar> Sayers: ebay?
[02:02] <ikonia> CCmonster: do you have the ability to count to 10 ?
[02:02] <stittel> Tidus: gpg is installed, "apt-key list" shows all Ubuntu keys just fine (without error message).
[02:02] <hexstar> !epiphany
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about epiphany - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <Lattyware> kkrusty: Heh
[02:02] <ikonia> CCmonster: if so, count the number of "titles" it takes to get to your vista boot option.
[02:02] <Sayers> hexstar, no I mean a list on ubuntu.com I already have sjsayers.com
[02:02] <Falstius> CCmonster: looks like 6
[02:02] <kkrusty> Lattyware: though im still not certain what it means
[02:02] <ikonia> CCmonster: then subtract one and put that int he Default option in your menu.lst
[02:03] <Lattyware> A sudden realisation.
[02:03] <Falstius> ikonia: give it a rest.  The ubuntu menu.1st is long and intimidating to a new user.
[02:04] <ikonia> Falstius: give what a rest ? its perfectly sound advice
[02:04] <Falstius> ikonia: which you've repeated 5 times in increasingly condescending tones.  Obviously your advice isn't appropriate for him.
[02:04] <CCmonster> ikonia...if all you gave was advice he wouldnt say anything. Obviously you did something. I
[02:04] <ikonia> Falstius: because he doesn't want to do it, he wants someone to do it for yhim
[02:05] <ikonia> CCmonster: I gave sound advice
[02:05] <CCmonster> Thanks for thinking for me ikonia. gracias
[02:05] <mangojambo> hi ... Why do Virtualbox don't boot an ubuntu's CD or ISO image??
[02:06] <chris__> I have used it
[02:06] <chris__> works well
[02:06] <MilitantPotato> Hey all, can someone help me with XGL+Compiz in Ubuntu, #ubuntu-effects is a ghost chat
[02:06] <mangojambo> chris__: virtualbox running a virtual feisty?
[02:07] <chris__> ya
[02:07] <Falstius> !ask | MilitantPotato
[02:07] <ubotu> MilitantPotato: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:07] <MilitantPotato> :D
[02:07] <taime1> why cant i install my nvidia driver through synaptic, reconfigure x, and it just work? i am only able to use that driver if i use the restricted driver manager GUI to enable it... what gives?
[02:07] <Falstius> MilitantPotato: then we can tell you to go ask in #ubuntu-effects ;)
[02:07] <ShackJack> MilitantPotato: There's alos #compiz-fusion if that's what you're using - you saw the guide on htlp.ubuntun.com I trust...
[02:07] <MilitantPotato> I wasn't sure if it was bad taste to ask a question outside this chat's purpose
[02:08] <EliasAmaral> .o
[02:08] <MilitantPotato> ShackJack: yes
[02:08] <mangojambo> chris__: My virtualbox don't boot !!! Do I need to setup something first ??
[02:08] <MilitantPotato> I have it working on one login, just not the other
[02:08] <Falstius> MilitantPotato: I do .. but no one answers my questions :-(
[02:08] <JoshKrajnak> hello
[02:08] <MilitantPotato> here's my problem (i'll join the compiz-fusion chat
[02:08] <MilitantPotato> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30733/
[02:08] <MilitantPotato> I get that after 10 seconds of a blue screen waiting for the desktop to load
[02:08] <MilitantPotato> trying to load an XGL session
[02:08] <ikonia> Falstius: apologies, I've not seen you ask a question. Go for it
[02:08] <JoshKrajnak> i keep getting this error
[02:09] <Lattyware> Could anyone help: glxgears fails, despite nVidia drivers being loaded (the logo shows). Xinemara with three screens, latest nVidia drivers from nVidia, and an 8600GTS and 7600GS. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/d7a914eae
[02:09] <gerro> militantPotato: /join #ubuntu-effects
[02:09] <JoshKrajnak> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:09] <MilitantPotato> gerro: I'm there, I asked awhile ago, no-one is there :)
[02:10] <Falstius> ikonia: no worries, I haven't asked any tonight.
[02:10] <ikonia> Falstius: ahhh I thought you where saying no-one had responded
[02:10] <ikonia> didn't realise you didn't mean tonight
[02:10] <Falstius> MilitantPotato: have to checked the permissions on '/tmp/XL-lock' ?
[02:10] <gerro> MilitantPotato: waiting for desktop to load!? I just added some weird guys precompiled svn snapshot site to my sources.list and type compiz --replace when I want to use fancy graphics :/
[02:10] <Falstius> ikonia: since I'm often the one giving help here, my questions are a little harder than the average #ubuntu questions ;)
[02:11] <ikonia> Falstius: exactly why I was interested
[02:11] <MilitantPotato> gerro: I don't understand what you're saying, sorry
[02:11] <ikonia> Falstius: I suffer the same too
[02:11] <ikonia> hence why I rarley ask in here
[02:11] <gerro> Falstius: never seen you here, what your question?
[02:11] <taime1> why cant i install my nvidia driver through synaptic, reconfigure x, and it just work? i am only able to use that driver if i use the restricted driver manager GUI in ubuntu to enable it... what gives?
[02:11] <gerro> MilitantPotato: I'm saying what guide did you follow to come to that error?
[02:11] <ikonia> taime1: you have to use it because its a "restricted driver"
[02:12] <MilitantPotato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[02:12] <abstrakt> lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWUOAsSPHq0
[02:12] <gerro> MilitantPotato: yeah don't do that
[02:12] <MilitantPotato> It works fine on my primary login, I created the account I'm on now for my wife
[02:12] <Pici> !offtopic | abstrakt
[02:12] <ubotu> abstrakt: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:12] <xunil> I have these .vob files and I was wondering how to be able to watch them with totem or MPlayer
[02:12] <gerro> MilitantPotato: that info is really really old
[02:12] <ikonia> abstrakt: will you PLEASE stop posting off topic posts
[02:12] <ikonia> abstrakt: the channel is busy enough
[02:12] <nerdboy1024> hi, anyone familier with tinapos?
[02:12] <ShackJack> MilitantPotato: So you can start XGL/compiz in one user login but not the other?
[02:12] <MilitantPotato> yes ShackJack
[02:12] <abstrakt> ikonia, will you PLEASE chill tf out
[02:12] <taime1> ikonia: so no way to get it to enable without the restricted driver manager gui?
[02:12] <gerro> MilitantPotato: try finding someone whom still does it that way
[02:12] <ShackJack> MilitantPotato: XGL doesn't start in other or just Compiz?
[02:13] <ikonia> abstrakt: just obey the rules
[02:13] <MilitantPotato> Either.
[02:13] <MilitantPotato> Well
[02:13] <Falstius> MilitantPotato: what are the permissions on /tmp/XL-lock?  Who owns it?
[02:13] <taime1> ikonia: thats different from edgy
[02:13] <Blouze> hi, anyone familiar with ASUS A8SC laptop?
[02:13] <gerro> ikonia: respect my authoritiieee :P
[02:13] <ikonia> taime1: came in in fesity
[02:13] <MilitantPotato> I'm not 100% sure, I can't get to the desktop to check if XGL is running
[02:13] <MilitantPotato> Falstius: root
[02:13] <ShackJack> MilitantPotato: Do you get the "checkboard" thing in the second session?
[02:13] <Floker> hey guys, i'm in a hurry, could anyone of you name a program that constantly searches for WLAN-networks and displays them?
[02:13] <MilitantPotato> ShackJack: no, not on this login
[02:13] <nerdboy1024> i can not find a POS that works
[02:13] <Pici> Floker: kismet
[02:13] <ikonia> Floker: iwlist
[02:13] <taime1> ikonia: i knew i liked edgy better ;P
[02:13] <McUnixJr> Hi everyone - i just got Feisty installed on a Dell D600.  I am wondering if this D600 supports higher video than 1024x768 under Feisty?  I tried changing resolutions and the highest it would go is 1024 even if I change the xorg.conf file
[02:13] <Falstius> MilitantPotato: you might need to add your wife's account to the proper group ... maybe video.  Just a guess.
[02:14] <abstrakt> ikonia, just stop being hypocritical... taking the time and spending the valuable "screen real estate" to chastize me is just "polluting" the channel further
[02:14] <ShackJack> MilitantPotato: Well, I'm stumped :)
[02:14] <uberspaced> ok.  tryin to add an ethernet card.
[02:14] <Floker> how do i start kismet, it says it need some interface and i should secelt one
[02:14] <Floker> i used sudo kismet wlan0
[02:14] <uberspaced> red ethernet howto, says alias that in modprobe.conf
[02:14] <JayRoe> nickrud you still here?
[02:14] <xunil> how do i watch .vob files
[02:14] <uberspaced> ubuntu has no modprobe.conf, it has a modules thing
[02:14] <ikonia> abstrakt: not when its asking you to stop - politly for about the 5 th time
[02:14] <nerdboy1024> anyone familier with tinapos
[02:14] <nickrud> JayRoe, yeah, got it figured.
[02:14] <uberspaced> grepped for eth0 in /etc/, found barely anything.
[02:14] <gerro> abstrakt: so you can't view that site or something?
[02:14] <JayRoe> nickrud really? :D
[02:14] <nickrud> JayRoe, on the third tab, hit save session :)
[02:14] <uberspaced> what's a good document to read about adding an ethernet device on ubuntu server?
[02:15] <nalioth> abstrakt: please read the guidelines
[02:15] <nickrud> JayRoe, that was a real brain fart on my part
[02:15] <gerro> uberspaced: man ifconfig?
[02:15] <JayRoe> nickrud in the session manager?
[02:15] <Blouze> can't read DVDs even after installing libdvdcss2
[02:15] <nickrud> JayRoe, yup. Remove the panel, then save the session. Simple, huh?
[02:15] <JayRoe> nickrud, that will remove the panels on both screens right?
[02:16] <nickrud> JayRoe, no panel runs at all.
[02:16] <uberspaced> gerro no.
[02:16] <JayRoe> nickrud, I still need them on the primary screen :-s
[02:16] <gerro> uberspaced: okay
[02:16] <MilitantPotato> BRB, seeing if setting this account to the game groups as my primary works.
[02:17] <uberspaced> gerro, first you have to tell the kernel that you want to use a specific driver for that card
[02:17] <nerdboy1024> is anyone familier with tinapos
[02:17] <JayRoe> nickrud, but perhaps I can delete them in the actual session. Save it and then add a script that tells it only to load the panels on the primary monitor
[02:17] <stittel> Falstius: We updated update-manager on arso_'s computer and ran "sudo gpg", but the problem still persists. Is it safe to send him my working trusted.gpg and trustdb.gpg?
[02:17] <nickrud> JayRoe, have you tried looking at the gconf settings under the panel, monitor & screen?
[02:17] <Falstius> stittel: not sudo gpg, just as the regular user.
[02:17] <JayRoe> nickrud, yup. But it always resets itself back to default after each reboit
[02:17] <JayRoe> reboot*
[02:17] <ormandj> Hey, so when I use the volume keys on my keyboard, this HUGE icon comes up showing the volume level right in the middle of the screen, on my desktop. On my laptop (also feisty fawn) only a little bar and icon come up
[02:17] <ikonia> nerdboy1024: its not in the ubutnu repo's
[02:17] <ormandj> how can i change it to the little bar/icon ?
[02:18] <uberspaced> gerro ahh
[02:18] <stittel> Falstius: Thanks, we will try that.
[02:18] <uberspaced> you were right
[02:18] <uberspaced> damn thing made it eth2!
[02:18] <nerdboy1024> ikonia , where could i get some help with the program
[02:18] <gerro> uberspaced: course I'm right!
[02:18] <ShackJack> ormandj: Maybe that's a compiz/beryl thing? I have it too...
[02:18] <ikonia> nerdboy1024: there is a wiki and support groups on the tinapos home page
[02:18] <nickrud> JayRoe then your it's definitely sabayon you want to work with. I don't have two screens to experiment on, but sabayon will let you set up mandatory keys
[02:19] <ormandj> shackjack: i had enabled it, but then i turned it off (compwiz/beryl) because it sucked. i wonder if that's what made the change? you know any way to revert?
[02:19] <gerro> uberspaced: you can change the eth2 name to anything you like though
[02:19] <uberspaced> well, we'll know if this works in a second.
[02:19] <Falstius> stittel: I had a similar problem updating from dapper->edgy->feisty.  The edgy-updates repos weren't enabled so I didn't have the latest update-manager and then there is a known bug with gpg where you have to have run it once to get an edgy->feisty update to work.
[02:19] <JayRoe> nickrud, I think sabayon only works for one monitor.
[02:19] <uberspaced> gerro, where would I do that?
[02:19] <nickrud> JayRoe, not sure, only one monitor here
[02:19] <ShackJack> ormandj: You did like compiz?  - You should check out compiz fusion... Yeah I though that volume thing was only there when compiz enabled and otherwise not...
[02:20] <ShackJack> ormandj: *didn't
[02:20] <ormandj> shackjack: i didn't like it. it crashed all the damn time. i'll wait till gutsy comes out to play with it again
[02:20] <victori_> anyone aware of any distro that has eclipse on a livecd?
[02:20] <nadu> anybody in here familiar with cedega and frozen throne?
[02:20] <nerdboy1024> this shit don't work
[02:20] <ormandj> i'll go check the forums and see if there's any way to go back to the old style icon for volume changing
[02:20] <ikonia> nerdboy1024: there is no need for that language
[02:20] <ShackJack> ormandj: Hmmm... I'm using fusion on both fglrx and nvidia and it's rock solid...
[02:20] <nerdboy1024> sorry
[02:20] <ikonia> nerdboy1024: more so when its nothing to do with ubuntu
[02:20] <Falstius> victori_: vector linux, maybe.
[02:20] <Blouze> can't read DVDs even after installing libdvdcss2
[02:21] <ormandj> shackjack: i'm on an nvidia 7900 with the "restricted driver manager" drivers
[02:21] <nerdboy1024> just fustrated, been spending 3 weeks trying to get one POS software to work
[02:21] <ormandj> and things become rather unstable with "desktop effects" turned on
[02:21] <MikeRotch> haha
[02:21] <ikonia> nerdboy1024: I have sugggested where you may get support for that software, ubuntu support is not appropriate
[02:21] <ShackJack> ormandj: You used compiz, beryl or compiz fusion (just curious)
[02:21] <uberspaced> man, stuff has changed.  no /etc/modules.conf
[02:21] <georgy28> Blouze, : do you have install libdvdread, libdvdnav too ?
[02:21] <ormandj> shackjack: i just used whatever "desktop effects" is
[02:22] <MikeRotch> compiz fusion is baddd
[02:22] <Falstius> Blouze: did you follow these instructions? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[02:22] <LOWER_CASE> HI: anybody know if 'sync' works with USB Memory Sticks?  I've been doing some work at home, and did a 'sudo sync' but the LED on the USB Stick did not flash.
[02:22] <ShackJack> ormandj: compiz --- hmm... compiz fusion is much better... I'm using in gutsy and real stable. Brother has it in Fesity with no problems thus far... When in douby, reinstall video driver :)
[02:22] <ikonia> LOWER_CASE: maybe there was nothing to sync
[02:22] <ikonia> it is solid state
[02:22] <Blouze> Falstius: yep tried several times, nothing changes
[02:23] <MilitantPotato> Nothing
[02:23] <ormandj> ShackJack: i'm not using linux so i can play the windows "reinstall" game ;)
[02:23] <Blouze> Falstius: vlc's kicking an error
[02:23] <mangojambo> chris__: did you do a feisty virtualbox using cd ou ISO image ?
[02:23] <Falstius> Blouze: what error?
[02:23] <ShackJack> ormandj: No - just the driver silly, not the O/S :)
[02:23] <uberspaced> now it's time to mess with iptables.  yay.
[02:23] <ormandj> shackjack: bleh :p
[02:23] <ShackJack> ormandj: Somtimes kernel updates ake em glitchy?
[02:24] <ShackJack> ormandj: O.K. I can't lives without my Compiz Fusion!
[02:24] <ormandj> shackjack: i'm thinking about just buying a lenovo T61 (seems it'll be working fully with gutsy) with all intel stuff, since intel seems to be open sourcing everything
[02:24] <ormandj> so i don't have to screw with nvidia/whatever crud
[02:25] <ShackJack> ormandj: Well, I won't go too off topic, but I've not had a problem with nvidia... But yeah that's sounds like a good strategy - and new Intel integrated graphics are nice...
[02:25] <nadu> nobody uses cedega here?
[02:25] <MilitantPotato> Where are GDM profiles stored?
[02:25] <ShackJack> nadu: Not me - that's why I dual boot :)
[02:25] <ikonia> MilitantPotato: gdm profiles ?
[02:25] <MilitantPotato> gmd xsession ?
[02:26] <ikonia> MilitantPotato: byut profiles ?
[02:26] <ormandj> shackjack: it's not like i'm playing video games or something (and if i did i'd be running windows) so i don't need the power-sucking nvidia stuff :p
[02:26] <ikonia> MilitantPotato: what do you mean
[02:26] <mon^rch> I kinda have a big problem... I dont have permissions to browse / help please
[02:26] <ShackJack> ikonia: /use/share/xsessions -- GDM sessions...
[02:26] <Falstius> nadu: I come here and play with the newbs for entertainment instead of playing video games ;)
[02:26] <ShackJack> ikonia: *usr
[02:26] <MilitantPotato> ikonia: nvm :D
[02:26] <ikonia> ShackJack: yes, they are sessions, but not profiles
[02:26] <Blouze> fas
[02:26] <Blouze> l
[02:26] <ShackJack> ikonia: Yeah, dunno what you mean by "profiles" GDM has no profiles, AFAIK
[02:27] <Blouze> Falstius:  vcd access error: no movie tracks found
[02:27] <stittel> Falstius: Unfortunately we still have the problem.
[02:27] <ikonia> ShackJack: exactly
[02:27] <OldPink> OldPink in the house :P
[02:27] <Falstius> Blouze: it is trying to treat your DVD like a VCD?
[02:27] <ikonia> ShackJack: hence why I was asking what he meant
[02:27] <Ademan> all apache needs is port 80 to be open right?
[02:27] <Blouze> Falstius: libdvdread: Invalid main menu IFO (VIDEO_TS.IFO).
[02:27] <xunil> how can i watch .vob files
[02:27] <ShackJack> ikonia: oops replied ot wrong user... -- in home dirs of users are all settings for individual users...
[02:27] <ikonia> Ademan: and443 for secure
[02:27] <Falstius> stittel: did you check that the update repos are there in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:28] <Blouze> Falstius: don't know, is it?
[02:28] <Falstius> xunil: vlc somefile.vob
[02:28] <stittel> Falstius: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30732/  looks good to me.
[02:28] <Falstius> Blouze: just sounds like it.
[02:28] <Ademan> ikonia: tcp?  i wouldn't think that applies to me but i'm willing to try anything right now
[02:28] <ShackJack> MilitantPotato: /usr/share/xsessions
[02:28] <ikonia> Ademan: yup 443 for apache+ssl
[02:28] <jtong> hi all, my ubuntu does not recognize my nForce4 MB
[02:29] <LOWER_CASE> ikonia: I had just edited a couple of OpenOffice docos & some source files.  I didn't want to 'eject' the drive, so I tried 'sync'.
[02:29] <jtong> how can i compile/load the correct drivers for it?
[02:29] <dalkantrell> #XMBC
[02:29] <Falstius> MilitantPotato: I thought that message meant the user didn't have a .Xsession file
[02:29] <Ademan> thanks ikonia, we'll see if that works, i really don't know wtf is wrong with my setup
[02:29] <ikonia> LOWER_CASE: doesn't mean there is anything to sync, solid state stuff works better than a disk
[02:29] <ShackJack> jtong: The nvidia-glx drivers don't support it?
[02:29] <Ademan> yeah still no-go, i dunno what's wrong here...
[02:29] <ikonia> Ademan: what are you trying to do
[02:30] <MilitantPotato> Falstius: probably.
[02:30] <Ademan> ikonia: use my webserver lol
[02:30] <stittel> Falstius: Also as far as I know this is a clean Feisty install done 2 days ago.
[02:30] <ikonia> Ademan: ok - is apache running
[02:30] <Falstius> stittel: I guess I came in in the middle.  What are you trying to do.  Update to another version or just update the feisty software?
[02:30] <arso_> Falstius: stittel yes , its clean.
[02:30] <Ademan> ikonia: yeah i can access it from other computers behind the router, but not outside of it
[02:30] <LOWER_CASE> ikonia: thanks
[02:30] <Ademan> and i've got port 80 forwarded correctly
[02:30] <jtong> ShackJack: i dont know, but my ethernet is not recognized
[02:30] <ikonia> Ademan: how are you accesing it via name or ip
[02:30] <stittel> Falstius: Actually it's arso_'s computer, I am just trying to help him. And he gets an error during "apt-get update".
[02:30] <Ademan> ikonia: IP
[02:30] <ikonia> Ademan: what IP
[02:31] <ShackJack> jtong: I thought you said graphics card?
[02:31] <OldPink> Thanks to all involved in helping me setting up my laptop :D Got the blog up: http://www.mbhoy.com/21-07-2007/dell-latitude-l400-laptop
[02:31] <jtong> no my nForce4 chipset MB
[02:31] <stittel> Falstius: This is the error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30735/
[02:31] <Ademan> 192.168.1.10     the IP of the router is 192.168.2.2     (which is behind yet another router, hence the local looking IP again)
[02:31] <JoshKrajnak> hey, i've googled up the "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" error and I've tried all the tricks in the forum, any ideas?
[02:31] <ikonia> Ademan: 192.169.0.1 is not visable on the internet, thats a private IP address
[02:31] <Ademan> ikonia: i have several other services forwarded to the same computer with no problem
[02:32] <stittel> Falstius: We already changed the mirrors to the mirrors I used and checked the keys with "sudo apt-key list", everything looks fine.
[02:32] <ikonia> Ademan: you can't access 192 addresses from the intenet
[02:32] <Falstius> stittel: arso_ have you tried just commenting out the se.archive.ubuntu.com line?  Yu should need it.
[02:32] <jtong> ShackJack: on nvidia website, it says it should be supported in the kernel
[02:32] <OldPink> Still haven't got this sorted: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=504558 any help?
[02:32] <Falstius> er, shouldn't need it
[02:32] <ormandj> ShackJack: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3059161#post3059161
[02:32] <Ademan> ikonia: right, but i also can't connect to it from any other computer in my network, one sec i've got a diagram
[02:32] <jtong> ShackJack: so i'm assuming that some modules are not compiled/loaded
 ikonia: yeah i can access it from other computers behind the router, but not outside of i
[02:33] <ikonia> Ademan: you just said you can access it from any other computer
[02:33] <ikonia> now your saying you can't acces it from any  ?
[02:33] <ikonia> which is it ?
[02:33] <Ademan> ikonia: not NONE, i've got 2 routers, lemme grab my diagram
[02:33] <Floker> has anyone of you any other good tips for warchalking software?
[02:33] <Ademan> oh for the love of god, picasa is down...
[02:33] <Ademan> one sec lemme upload it somewhere else
[02:34] <Floker> iwlist will do the job for scanning, anything to find samba-ressources would be nice, or to scan the network for computers and services
[02:34] <stittel> Falstius: Which se.archive.ubuntu.com line? There are plenty of it, since se.archive.ubuntu.com is the mirror we use.
[02:34] <Floker> that'd be nice
[02:34] <Szeraax> anyone know how to actually use wpa supplicant?
[02:34] <Falstius> stittel: in the file you pasted, there was only one.  For multiverse.
[02:34] <Falstius> stittel: well, there were some more commented out but I ignored them.
[02:35] <Falstius> stittel: sorry, nm.  I am going blind in my old age.
[02:35] <stittel> Falstius: I count 8 lines referring to se.archive.ubuntu.com.
[02:35] <Blouze> Falstius: libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/home/blouze/.dvdnav/FIGHT_CLUB.map'
[02:35] <Blouze> libdvdread: Invalid main menu IFO (VIDEO_TS.IFO).
[02:35] <Blouze> libdvdnav: vm: faild to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[02:35] <Blouze> [00000300]  vcd access error: no movie tracks found
[02:35] <Blouze> ioctl(): Input/output error
[02:35] <Blouze> [00000300]  vcdx access error: error reading Info sector (150)
[02:35] <Blouze> [00000300]  access_file access error: file /dev/hda is empty, aborting
[02:35] <stittel> Falstius: If we comment them out, we will only get security updates from security.ubuntu.com, but no source for package installation. Of course we could do it for testing purposes.
[02:36] <arso_> !pastebin | Blouze
[02:36] <ubotu> Blouze: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:36] <Blouze> sorry folks
[02:36] <Ademan> ikonia: http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/Ademan/?action=view&current=MyNetwork-1.jpg     mentally replace banshee with http
[02:36] <Ademan> ikonia: router B's IP is 192.168.2.2   and that is how the intended client is trying to access it
[02:36] <Falstius> Blouze: how do you open the DVD?
[02:37] <ikonia> Ademan: they are on different networks
[02:37] <akos> Hello! I have a core2duo @ 2 Ghz, and an NVidia 8600GS, but beryl seems to run slow for whatever reason... Some effects FPS is very low, or a frame gets freezed, for 1-2 seconds... If this system is too slow for beryl, which isnt?  do you know what the problem might be?
[02:37] <mon^rch> help... I cant browse /
[02:37] <Ademan> ikonia: right but port 80 is forwarded to the server (192.168.1.101)
[02:37] <ikonia> Ademan: where is 1.01 ?
[02:37] <Falstius> akos: might look into nvidia-glx-new
[02:37] <ikonia> 1.101 ?
[02:38] <Floker> how do i scan an entire network for samba ressources?
[02:38] <akos> Falstius, i have installed nvidia using envy... because even nvidia-glx-new didnt have support for my card
[02:38] <ShackJack> akos: I'm not positive, but I don;t thing nvidia-glx driver has full support for 8600 series chips... might try turning off some effects like blur, etc... and check refresh in settings...  check over at #beryl too for more expert advice
[02:38] <Blouze> Falstius: tried the vlc GUI and command line
[02:38] <akos> shack, read what i just said to Falstius
[02:38] <Ademan> ikonia: it's the server, behind router B,   router B's "local"? ip is 192.168.1.1     but it's "public"? ip is 192.168.2.2
[02:39] <Blouze> Falstius: dvd drive is /dev/hda
[02:39] <akos> ShackJack, how could I verify that?
[02:39] <Falstius> akos: ahh ... don't know anything about it.
[02:39] <ikonia> Ademan: thats never going to work
[02:39] <Lattyware> noCould anyone help: glxgears fails, despite nVidia drivers being loaded (the logo shows). Xinemara with three screens, latest nVidia drivers from nVidia, and an 8600GTS and 7600GS. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/d7a914eae
[02:39] <ShackJack> akos: Verify what?
[02:39] <Ademan> ikonia: why not?
[02:39] <Anthony_> I need help on compiz fusion. When I follow the instructions given on the forums, and i type "compiz --replace" in terminal (when i type "compiz --replace" in Run Application the title bars don't show up) and i get 'Fatal:Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support      Checks indicate that it's impossible to start compiz on your system."     Help anyone?
[02:39] <ikonia> because you'll need a route from your client to the server detailing the router B ip address
[02:39] <akos> ShackJack, if it has full support or not? (i installed the newest driver with envy)
[02:39] <ikonia> so it knows to hit the router
[02:39] <ikonia> it will try to hit router A
[02:40] <ShackJack> akos: You can check changelogs on nvidia site(?)
[02:40] <Falstius> Blouze: so vlc dvd:///dev/hda  ?
[02:40] <ikonia> ok, bed time
[02:40] <ikonia> good night
[02:41] <akos> ShackJack, ah ok
[02:42] <jackthehomeless> I <3 Ubuntu. But i really need to reinstall xp for gaming purposes. How do I keep my install of Ubuntu untouched and reinstall xp?
[02:43] <MikeRotch> jack you can do manual partitioning
[02:43] <MikeRotch> then specify the size and tell it to start the partition at he end of the disk
[02:43] <Falstius> jackthehomeless: do you have two separate drives or just one?
[02:43] <jackthehomeless> MikeRotch, yeah i know, i have the gparted live cd
[02:43] <jackthehomeless> Falstius, just one
[02:43] <Ademan> jackthehomeless: gparted is the way to go, but be warned, after installing xp you'll have to reinstall grub
[02:44] <MikeRotch> oh yea sry i was installin ubuntu on windows
[02:44] <Falstius> jackthehomeless: installing XP will overwrite grub.  You should look up how to reinstall it before you install XP and make sure you understand (a practice run wouldn't hurt).
[02:44] <MikeRotch> haha the other way around my bad
[02:44] <Ademan> jackthehomeless: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/  should do it
[02:44] <jessica> anyone have keyring going to cache SSH keys?
[02:44] <Blouze> Falstius: tried it
[02:44] <jackthehomeless> Ademan, yeah i was aware of that because i ran into that problem before, and grub took a nosedive because xp loves touching the MBR, so i reinstalled ubuntu and said screw it
[02:44] <Blouze> Falstius: [00000297]  dvdread demuxer error: fatal error in vts ifo
[02:44] <Blouze> [00000297]  dvdread demuxer error: DvdReadSetArea(0,0,1) failed (can't decrypt DVD?)
[02:45] <Ademan> jackthehomeless: i also think an ubuntu livecd could do it, but the super grub disk can/may/should be easier
[02:45] <Blouze> Falstius: this is new
[02:45] <Falstius> Blouze: yes ...
[02:45] <mercurysquad> hey guys which channel should I go to if I want to talk about registering a new spec for gutsy ?
[02:45] <Ademan> mercurysquad: #ubuntu-devel ?
[02:45] <mercurysquad> thanks :)
[02:45] <Falstius> Blouze: the part I always forget when installing DVD support is to run the install-css script.
[02:46] <jackthehomeless> Ademan, well i have all the ubuntu distros' live cd's. And believe me, im definitely not looking forward to Xp. Anything else i should look for besides fixing the MBR?
[02:46] <Ademan> mercurysquad: no problem, i wasn't quite sure if it was even a channel, it's always #whatever-dev or -devel though
[02:46] <bulmer> what applications is Avahi really used for? multicast what services? in a private subnetwork? is it replacing a older feature?
[02:46] <crackerbox> is there a way for me to output the serial number of my USB stick to a file or environment vairiable??
[02:46] <Ademan> jackthehomeless: no i expect that should be the only problem, i've done it once before and iirc i recovered with the ubuntu livecd
[02:46] <mercurysquad> there are people in ubuntu-devel though no one's talking :P
[02:46] <Ademan> just reinstalling grub
[02:46] <Toma-> jackthehomeless: try not to get upset at ubuntu is if doesnt mount your NTFS drives read/write straight away
[02:46] <hsimah> hello all, i use ubuntu 7.04 and i installed vista on a different partition which over wrote the MBR. i could get grub back in earlier versions of ubuntu, but i cant for the life of me figure out how to reinstall grub
[02:46] <crackerbox> cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage/*  will show me the serial number but i want to out put that to a text file
[02:47] <Ademan> mercurysquad: hehe, sometimes you have to wait :-p
[02:47] <obf213> i was ssh into a folder. and i was viewing it with nautilus. all of a sudden nautilus says that it cannot display the ssh anymore
[02:47] <jackthehomeless> Toma-, yeah, ill have to get ntfs-3g
[02:47] <obf213> y does this happen
[02:47] <Punkunity> i have been using rythmabox, amarok, and a few others, but i need one that will automate the album info for me
[02:47] <Ademan> mercurysquad: maybe a mailing list would be appropriate too
[02:47] <jughead> How do I setup FreeNX to work through a LAN?  I followed the guide on the community doc. site, but I think the problem is with the versions.  my laptop runs 7.04 and my desktop runs 6.10
[02:47] <Toma-> mercurysquad: usually, you just register it a launchpad
[02:47] <Punkunity> there are too many files that say unknown
[02:47] <bulmer> crackerbox, then pipe it or redirect to a file
[02:47] <jackthehomeless> Toma-, speaking of which, when is ubuntu going to come with ntfs read/write support?
[02:47] <Ademan> Punkunity: i love banshee
[02:47] <Punkunity> anybody know some really good music players
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> !music
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <Toma-> jackthehomeless: once its 100% stable
[02:47] <nadu> how do i find my ip addy in ubuntu
[02:47] <Punkunity> ademan does it search the net to find all the album info??
[02:47] <jackthehomeless> Punkunity, Amarok all the way
[02:47] <bulmer> nadu  ip a
[02:47] <Ademan> jackthehomeless: don't expect it for a while, nothing is reliable enough that ubuntu is willing to ship by default
[02:48] <Punkunity> amarok sux
[02:48] <Falstius> crackerbox: cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage/* > file
[02:48] <Szeraax> so does anyone know how to use wpasupplicant?
[02:48] <Ademan> Punkunity: it should
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> jackthehomeless: i'd have to agree, its one of the few KDE apps i like
[02:48] <nadu> ty
[02:48] <Toma-> jackthehomeless: realistically, NTFS is such a horrible format, that it might not ever happen
[02:48] <stittel> hsimah: "sudo grub-install install_device"  replace "install_device" with the device you want to have grub on.
[02:48] <Punkunity> hmmm...ill give it a try, i just really hate amarok
[02:48] <Ademan> Punkunity: and there's a plugin that makes it try and figure out the song name and album and stuff with whatever info is available
[02:48] <Punkunity> ty ademan
[02:48] <Ademan> no problem, good luck
[02:48] <jackthehomeless> Toma-, I know, it would just be a convenience thing. I love the snappyness of ext-3. Much more stable and consistent
[02:48] <crackerbox> when i do cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage/* its give me a few extra lines... is there away to just get the serial?
[02:48] <Szeraax> i am trying to connect to a wpa network and cant figure out how to do it
[02:48] <Toma-> mercurysquad: BTW, more specs will fall on deaf ears since gutsy is at tribe 3.
[02:49] <mercurysquad> hmmm someone replied, it's most likely a temporary problem with launchpad. i'll try again later. thanks everyone!
[02:49] <jackthehomeless> Punkunity, if you dont like amarok then banshee is a good choice.
[02:49] <Toma-> *most
[02:49] <crackerbox> this is what the command gives me:
[02:49] <crackerbox>    Host scsi0: usb-storage
[02:49] <crackerbox>        Vendor: Generic
[02:49] <crackerbox>       Product: Mass Storage Device
[02:49] <crackerbox> Serial Number: 60688GFG
[02:49] <crackerbox>      Protocol: Transparent SCSI
[02:49] <crackerbox>     Transport: Bulk
[02:49] <mercurysquad> Tom-: it's a very simple spec asking to install 2 packages by default (for VPN)
[02:49] <crackerbox> and i want the text file to have only "60688GFG"
[02:49] <crackerbox> in it
[02:49] <Falstius> crackerbox: please use pastebin.  You can cat xxx | grep Serial | sed -e 's/Serial Number: //' > file
[02:49] <Thorrn4> could someone help me with Nvidia Drivers, I am using SimplyMepis, but it should be the same. I changed the repos from DAPPER to FEISTY and the nvidia drivers downloaded but arent installing - http://pastebin.ca/629168
[02:50] <mercurysquad> Tom-: because past 2 days I was stranded without internet cuz I needed vpn :P and I couldnt install the packages without net access. catch22
[02:50] <Punkunity> and one more question, i just downloaded realplayer10 gold for linux and i am using feisty, it downloaded as a .bin file type to my desktop, how do i install that
[02:50] <Toma-> mercurysquad: it would be nice, but the packaging specs are all closed. it might get into gutsy+1 tho
[02:50] <Punkunity> i tried doublwe clicking on it to install it(im used to windows easiness in that category for .exe)but its not working
[02:51] <jackthehomeless>  Ademan, you didnt tell me supergrub was only a mere 3mb, theres no need for me to burn it if i have a thumb drive right?
[02:51] <mercurysquad> Toma-: ah that sucks .. I should check the release schedule again because I had lots of new specs to submit but didnt have time to draft them until now
[02:51] <bulmer> crackerbox, you probably need to awk it and pick up $2  after that sed as suggested
[02:51] <hsimah> thanks stittel
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> !realplayer | Punkunity
[02:51] <ubotu> Punkunity: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:51] <crackerbox> Falstius - you sir, are a genious
[02:51] <Punkunity> ty indygunfreak
[02:51] <Falstius> crackerbox: if I was a genius, I'd remember how to do it in gawk which would be even slicker.
[02:52] <obf213> hey, whenever i delete files off my fat partition they really delete.
[02:52] <miller[] > how can I change how much the volume keys on my keyboard changes the volume? it's changin
[02:52] <miller[] > g too fast
[02:52] <obf213> how do i set it so they delete
[02:52] <Anthony_> I need help on compiz fusion. When I follow the instructions given on the forums, and i type "compiz --replace" in terminal (when i type "compiz --replace" in Run Application the title bars don't show up) and i get 'Fatal:Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support      Checks indicate that it's impossible to start compiz on your system."     Help anyone?
[02:52] <orbisvicis> !firewall
[02:52] <miller[] > it goes from too quiet to too loud..
[02:52] <obf213> every time i boot them in windows i always find that folder there.
[02:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:52] <jackthehomeless> Toma-, hey toma, do you know how to make supergrub bootable off of a thumb drive?
[02:53] <Toma-> jackthehomeless: no sorry
[02:53] <jonny> i'm having issues with my connected hard drives.  One is formatted FAT32 and all is working fine, the other two are recently formatted to EXT3 and I cannot see one in Ubuntu, and the other I can mount, but not read/write
[02:53] <Blouze> Falstius: just run install-css.sh same error...
[02:53] <jonny> should I just reformat to FAT32 and see if that fixes it?
[02:53] <crackerbox> falstius - so here is what im trying to do: i have ubunut that boots from a USB stick, and I want it to halt the boot process if the USB stick serial number does not match a value i set before hand
[02:53] <Falstius> crackerbox: I had to look it up,  cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage/* | gawk '/Serial/ {print $3}' > file
[02:53] <obf213> how do i get it so when i delete a file, it doesn't open a hidden trash file on the drive
[02:53] <Blouze> Falstius: why would it tell me /dev/hda is empty ?
[02:54] <zerokill88> anyone hear of PowewrTOP?
[02:54] <zerokill88> PowerTOP
[02:54] <Falstius> crackerbox: SERIAL=$(cat /proc/scsi/usb-storage/* | gawk '/Serial/ {print $3}')
[02:54] <Anthony_> I need help on compiz fusion. When I follow the instructions given on the forums, and i type "compiz --replace" in terminal (when i type "compiz --replace" in Run Application the title bars don't show up) and i get 'Fatal:Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support      Checks indicate that it's impossible to start compiz on your system."     Help anyone?
[02:54] <Thorrn4> can someone help me plz?
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> !ask | Thorrn4
[02:55] <ubotu> Thorrn4: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:55] <Thorrn4> could someone help me with Nvidia Drivers, I am using SimplyMepis, but it should be the same. I changed the repos from DAPPER to FEISTY and the nvidia drivers downloaded but arent installing - http://pastebin.ca/629168
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> Thorrn4: try asking in #mepis
[02:55] <Falstius> crackerbox: then, cont=false; for serial in $SERIAL; do if [ $serial == $SERIAL ]  cont=true; done; if [ $cont == 'false' ] ; then; exit
[02:55] <Thorrn4> IndyGunFreak, there is no one in there to help
[02:56] <obf213> ahaha that ask thing is hilarious ive never seen that before
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> Thorrn4: then roll over to the mepis forums, or over to http://www.linuxquestions.org
[02:56] <Falstius> Blouze: no idea really.  After sudo install-css.sh try to reinstall lbdvdcss2
[02:56] <crackerbox> Falstius- do you think that will work in the casper bottom scripts?
[02:56] <Falstius> crackerbox: uhm, no idea.  Never heard of them.  It will work in bash
[02:57] <crackerbox> what part of the system boot would you embed that?
[02:57] <crackerbox> (casper bottom is part of the LiveCD boot process)
[02:58] <Falstius> Thorrn4: remove the old nvidia-glx first (use --purge)
[02:58] <defcon> I have a problem with my wireless network, on my ubuntu box I have a belkins usb card with ndiswrapper, I cannot connect to the internet with gnome network config, I can connect with wireless assistant, ie wlassistant and it connects me to my router, then I have to do dhconfig wlan0 to get an assigned Ip address, why wont gnome do this?
[02:58] <gregorovius> is there a bittorrent daemon that just works? mldonkey packages seems broken, and torrentflux is a mess
[02:58] <Falstius> crackerbox: I'm not really sure.  I've never played with making my own liveCD.
[02:59] <jonny> When I try to mount my one hard drive, which is formatted EXT3, it says "NTFS signature is missing", how can I fix this?
[02:59] <Falstius> crackerbox: I imagine you can do something similar in casper, whatever that is :)
[02:59] <Falstius> jonny: how are you trying to mount your hard drive?>
[02:59] <clouder> I have a hard drive mounted as a user's home directory, but it's showing up under the Places menu.  Since I'm not really using it as a media device I don't want it in there.  How do I go about fixing that?  Edit Menus was no help
[02:59] <JayRoe> nickrud I think mythtv is the problem. I tried disabling it in the start tab in sessions. The panels on my second screen is gone now, but whenever I open mythtv they get restored for some odd reason.
[02:59] <jonny> Falstius: using mount /dev/sdc1
[03:00] <Falstius> jonny: that's the whole command line?
[03:00] <nickrud> JayRoe, that does seem odd. is there a #mythtv?
[03:00] <crackerbox> Fal: lets say you wanted to have the linux boot process stop if the hard drive you were booting from did not match a certain serial number... forget about casper... is there a way to accomplish this, in your opinion?
[03:00] <nickrud> somewhere?
[03:00] <systemd0wn> Question, Running a bash script (A) opens a new bash terminal running script (B) i would like a variable from (A) to be available to script (B)  is this possible?
[03:01] <belred> does anyone know a good blog server to install on kubuntu?
[03:01] <JayRoe> nickrud, yup, don't remember the name of it though.
[03:01] <jonny> Falstius: thanks for reminding me about the last part, noob mistake! *smacks forehead*
[03:01] <Falstius> crackerbox: in bash, you could just use shutdown -r now
[03:01] <crackerbox> ok.
[03:01] <JayRoe> nickrud, found it. mythtv-users
[03:02] <nerdboy1024> can someone please help me set up a printer for cups?
[03:02] <Blouze> Falstius: reinstalled libdvdcss2 and ran install-css again, still the same :\ thx anyway
[03:02] <crackerbox> im trying to decide where in the boot process I want to call the script
[03:02] <Falstius> Blouze: sorry I don't know of anything else.  I would try a different DVD though.
[03:02] <crackerbox> is there specific location for one to place scripts to be executed before GDM starts?
[03:03] <Falstius> nerdboy1024: the system-administrator->printing->add printer gui is pretty good.  It doesn't work for you?
[03:03] <chrisfnet> I have Apache2 all setup, userdir module is loaded and configured but I'm getting a 403 when I visit any ~user directories.. the logs don't give anything specific. Any ideas? :(
[03:04] <Falstius> crackerbox: I'm not sure with the new feisty boot script mechanism how you'd do that.   The old way was easy, you just give it an earlier name.
[03:04] <nerdboy1024> no
[03:04] <nerdboy1024> it installs it
[03:04] <nerdboy1024> but
[03:04] <nerdboy1024> it just will not print
[03:04] <nerdboy1024> will not open the cash draw
[03:04] <nerdboy1024> nothing
[03:05] <Falstius> nerdboy1024: your haiku has too many lines.  Is there any error?  You should be able to see the status in the printing box or with lp -q
[03:05] <nerdboy1024> just sits there with a single green lights laughing at me
[03:05] <crackerbox> thanks falstius... you have been very helpful
[03:05] <konam> hyo
[03:05] <nerdboy1024> lp: Error - expected priority after '-q' option!
[03:05] <Falstius> crackerbox: no problem.  I got to relearn basic gawk.
[03:05] <LeChacal> what is the command for mounting a FAT32 drive i tried "sudo mount Local\ Disk" and i get the error of "mount: can't find media/Local Disk in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[03:06] <Falstius> nerdboy1024: sorry, lpr -q
[03:06] <konam> i change my motherboard, now the dvdrw doesn't work properly, well, it doesn't work at all. it prompt this error message:mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist
[03:06] <konam> i've turned off apic with noapic
[03:06] <konam> and no luck
[03:07] <konam> someone can enlight me
[03:07] <chrisfnet> konam: dmesg | grep DVD
[03:07] <chrisfnet> konam: does it actually detect the drive?
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> konam: are you getting the menu, so the DVD is recognized, right?
[03:07] <Falstius> konam: change fstab to /dev/cdrom instead of /dev/scd0 ?  Or is it an SATA dvd?  Never had one of those.
[03:08] <nerdboy1024> just hangs on that command
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> nerdboy1024: either reburn(remember, SLOWWW burns).. or use the alternate install CD
[03:08] <Falstius> LeChacal: you need to give it mount /dev/hda /media/disk  (changing hda and disk to the appropriate names)
[03:08] <konam> dchrisfnet 'mesg | grep DVD' gives me nothing
[03:09] <nerdboy1024> indie?
[03:09] <nerdboy1024> indy?
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> nerdboy1024: sorry, i dont' know why i sent that to you.
[03:09] <chrisfnet> konam: hmm..
[03:09] <Absenth> !beryl
[03:09] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:09] <Falstius> nerdboy1024: yeah, my box does too now  .... huh, used to work :)  Why the little printer icon in the status bar is more likely to give you a useful message anyway.
[03:09] <konam> chrisfnet it doesn't detect the drive, and is weird, yesterday it did (with the new motherboard) but in an unstable way (sometimes did others didn't)
[03:09] <konam> IndyGunFreak i'm not getting nothing
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> konam: either reburn(remember, SLOWWW), or download and burnt he alternate install CD>
[03:09] <nerdboy1024> lol
[03:10] <nerdboy1024> it shows ready
[03:10] <konam> Falstius i'll try
[03:10] <nerdboy1024> indy, burn baby burn
[03:10] <chrisfnet> I doubt it's an install problem?
[03:10] <nerdboy1024> then pass
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> konam: does the drive work under windows?
[03:10] <Falstius> nerdboy1024: did you try different drivers?  What printer is it?
[03:10] <konam> IndyGunFreak what are you talking about
[03:10] <konam> IndyGunFreak yes, it works
[03:10] <Absenth> anyone know how I convince Beryl to launch by default?
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> konam: ok, then its not a hardware issue\
[03:10] <belred> does anyone know of any blog server to install on ubuntu?
[03:10] <nerdboy1024> star sp512
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> konam: what am i talking about.. burn the ISO again, burn it SLOW, and try again, if it still doesn't work, download and burn the alternate install ISO
[03:11] <nerdboy1024> tear bar recipt printer
[03:11] <Flannel> belred: You could install anything.  Since they all run through a scripting language through a webserver
[03:11] <nerdboy1024> indy? u like to burn a lot?
[03:11] <konam> Falstius the fstab is pointing /dev/sd0 to /dev/cdrom.....
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> nerdboy1024: no.. but the alternate install CD is for PC's that have trouble booting the LIVE CD
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> has nothing to do with enjoying burning
[03:11] <Absenth> IndyGunFreak....  Indianapolis Indy?
[03:12] <miller[] > how do I prevent mouse acceleration
[03:12] <konam> IndyGunFreak i'm on ubuntu, it use to recognize my dvd burner, i change my mb and now it doesn't
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> Absenth: yes... Beech Grove actually
[03:12] <Absenth> <--- Fishers
[03:12] <switchcat> Okay, I've installed tor and privoxy... but there doesn't seem to be a package for vidalia www.vidalia-project.net  am I mistaken?  am I missing a suitable repository, or is there a better alternative to vidalia?
[03:12] <obf213> anyone use i8k for dell inspirions
[03:12] <konam> IndyGunFreak then again, what are you talking about?
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> konam: i thought you were trying to install?
[03:12] <konam> IndyGunFreak it seems so
[03:12] <konam> excuseme if i misunderstood
[03:12] <Falstius> konam: that doesn't make sense, you mean /dev/sd0 to /media/cdrom ?
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> konam: nevermind, good luck
[03:12] <LeChacal> Falstius: how do i know the appropiate name for when the drive is in dev because i dont see any HDD in there just CD, floopy, and RAM
[03:12] <belred> Flannel: isn't there one done already?
[03:13] <konam> Falstius yeah, is the default setup
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> Absenth: i hate fishers..lol, no offense, traffic up there will make you suicidal during rush hour..lol
[03:13] <Flannel> belred: wordpress is in the repositories
[03:13] <Absenth> yeah I know :/
[03:13] <konam> Falstius and it use to work
[03:13] <Blouze> Falstius: this is vlc's output with another commercial DVD http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30741/plain/
[03:13] <konam> with your indication i gonna point /dev/cdrom to /dev/cdrom
[03:13] <Absenth> IndyGunFreak: I'm turning into a gun freak.  (but this is an Offtopic sort of thing so I'll drop it :)
[03:13] <belred> Flannel: thanks... that's what i was after :)
[03:13] <Falstius> LeChacal: it depends on the hd, is it ide, sata, usb, etc
[03:14] <nerdboy1024> Falstius : it is a sp512 star printer tearbar paralelle
[03:14] <LeChacal> Falstius: ide
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> Absenth: type this.. "/join #indygunfreak"... no quotes...
[03:14] <Blouze> Falstius: could be same reason, different error?
[03:14] <eboyjr> Is compiz pronounced, "Come Pizz"????
[03:15] <Falstius> nerdboy1024: you have a real parallel port printer?  wow.
[03:16] <Falstius> Blouze: weird.. it is at least trying now.
[03:16] <Floker> hey - how can i scan a network for samba shares?
[03:16] <konam> Falstius do what you said anyways?
[03:16] <sauvin> Where the !@#$#@ do you get a parallel port printer these days outside a flea market?
[03:16] <Falstius> konam: no
[03:16] <Viper550> sauvin: I'm not quite sure
[03:16] <nerdboy1024> lol
[03:16] <nerdboy1024> it is a recipt printer for a POS
[03:17] <sauvin> a Pizza Oven Stuffing?
[03:17] <Falstius> nerdboy1024: I'd just try different drivers.  I don't know enough to give you other meaningful advice.
[03:17] <nerdboy1024> i am failing at my attempt to make a POS system for my stores, i am about 10,000$usd in the hole on this one
[03:17] <Viper550> sauvin: point of service
[03:17] <Falstius> konam: it is a SATA drive?
[03:17] <sauvin> Ah.
[03:18] <nerdboy1024> i think ima cry
[03:18] <jonny> what a weird problem.  I can mount a drive, but it does not show up as a drive, I have to manually go to the directory I mounted it to.  How can I fix this?
[03:18] <bruenig> nerdboy1024, I hear unemployment pays well
[03:18] <Falstius> LeChacal: if it is ide, it should be /dev/hda1 or /dev/hdb1 or /dev/hda2 etc.  You can get a list of partitions with sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[03:18] <konam> Falstius no, it isn't
[03:18] <nerdboy1024> bruenig : onl;y if u pay taxes
[03:19] <obf213> i just installed a package to moniter my fan and temp. when i try to run it i get this error /proc/i8k, what does that mean.
[03:19] <obf213> do i have to reboot first or something
[03:19] <eboyjr> Is Compiz pronounced, "Come Pizz"????
[03:19] <Viper550> Com-Pizz
[03:19] <eboyjr> k
[03:19] <bruenig> bear-el
[03:19] <Falstius> konam: what does ls -lh /dev/cdrom give?
[03:19] <panfist> say "comp" as in "computer"
[03:19] <eboyjr> thanks
[03:19] <Viper550> computer pizzaz?
[03:19] <nerdboy1024> i need a joint
[03:20] <eboyjr> Viper550: lol, That's probably why they called it that... hmm....
[03:20] <konam> Falstius with a CD/DVD in there or empty?
[03:20] <Buzzygirl> hi folks
[03:21] <Falstius> konam: shouldn't matter.
[03:21] <obf213> anyone know if your install something that /proc/ thing
[03:21] <Siph0n> if my ubuntu laptop keeps freezing for a few seconds every so often, and sometimes freezes for good, how can i tell whats doing it?
[03:21] <obf213> if you install something that requires a /proc/  do you have to reboot?
[03:21] <konam> Falstius 'ls: /dev/cdrom: the file or directory doesn't exist' obviously, something go wrong
[03:22] <sauvin> Siphon, I'd fire up a terminal to use the TOP command to see what's hogging CPU and/or disk.
[03:23] <Falstius> konam: yeah ... is there a /dev/hda that isn't a harddrive?
[03:23] <bruenig> konam, /dev/cdrom if it exists at all would only ever be a symlink
[03:23] <Falstius> bruenig: which is why I asked him to ls -lh
[03:24] <Siph0n> sauvin: ok thanx, i did that :) ill see if it helps
[03:24] <Viper550> you have to mount the CD-rom first
[03:25] <konam> Falstius i've tried to mount it, but no, it doesn't work
[03:25] <Falstius> konam: check dmesg for errors?
[03:26] <quio> Hello Everyone.
[03:26] <LeChacal> Falstius: well all that didtnt work but i found my problem thanks anyways
[03:27] <Falstius> LeChacal: yay.
[03:28] <konam> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30742/ Falstius
[03:28] <nadu> does anyone use cedega here?
[03:28] <chrisfnet> I think I found my problem with Apache2. I have my home directory permissions set so people can't traverse my home directory (users on my machine) but that's preventing apache from reading the public_html directory inside of it. Hmm...
[03:28] <quio> Does anyone have a suggestion for an accounting program for Ubuntu like MS Money or Quick Books?  Thanks
[03:29] <threethreethree> is any one else experience complete outage of all official repositories and websites?
[03:29] <chrisfnet> quio: gnucash?
[03:29] <threethreethree> i just installed feisty fawn today
[03:29] <konam> Falstius the last few lines of dmesg, they dont say nothing about scd though
[03:29] <threethreethree> and cannot update or visit ubuntuforums
[03:29] <threethreethree> or ubuntu.com
[03:29] <Falstius> konam: why does it say your CDROM has multiple partitions?
[03:30] <sodani_> can someone tell me how I can enable the 'service' command?
[03:30] <matjan> hi, could anyone give me a hand with helping to understand some output from /var/log/messages?
 Do you like this one?  I have heard of this in the past when I attempted to use Red Hat but was told it was not so secure and functional as the others.
[03:31] <matjan> it concerns my internet connection...
[03:31] <chrisfnet> quio: only been using it for a few months, but it's pretty nice..
[03:31] <konam> Falstius it says sdc not scd, that is my cd/dvd
[03:31] <Dhraak[Gwaihir] > okay, Ubuntu finally installed
[03:31] <Dhraak[Gwaihir] > the partitioner finally decided to work with a modicum of speed
 You download the account details to csv though correct?
[03:32] <chrisfnet> quio: Eh? You can import CSV I believe
Will it set up the next years taxes as well?
[03:32] <konam> Falstius sdc is a hard drive and is mounted
[03:32] <threethreethree> Please, anyone? I have no access to official Ubuntu repositories or the official websites. Is anyone else experiencing these issues? I can access all other websites without any problems
[03:33] <Flannel> threethreethree: which repos?
[03:33] <threethreethree> all of the default ones
[03:33] <chrisfnet> quio: That, I have no idea. I only use it as a personal accounting program. I user Peartree for my business.
When I said csv, I meant I do not think you can download a banks statements directly into the program gnucash as you can with MS money etc..
[03:33] <Flannel> threethreethree: Well, 'default' varies depending on your location
[03:34] <chrisfnet> quio: ah, yeah
[03:34] <Falstius> konam: okay.  dyslexic moment. Is there a /dev/sg0 ?
[03:34] <threethreethree> i can access google's and other third party repos but none of the ones provided with the distro, these include:
[03:34] <threethreethree> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-security main restricted
[03:34] <threethreethree> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-security main restricted
[03:34] <threethreethree> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-security universe
[03:34] <threethreethree> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-security universe
[03:34] <threethreethree> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-security multiverse
[03:34] <threethreethree> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-security multiverse
[03:34] <threethreethree> deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free
[03:34] <Flannel> threethreethree: You don't need to paste.  Simply 'archive.ubuntu.com' wouldve sufficed
[03:34] <threethreethree> oops, minus that last google one
[03:34] <threethreethree> sorry, i am inexperienced
[03:34] <Dhraak[Gwaihir] > Okay, I'm trying to disable tap=click with this laptop's touchpad
[03:34] <nomad111> is there a repository that contains the latest eclipse version
Cool thanks.  I will give it a go and see how it works.  Is there a program like peachtree for Ubuntu?  I am trying to get away from MS.
[03:35] <sauvin> That depends on the nature of the protocol used to communicate with your bank.
[03:35] <nomad111> i need version 3.3
[03:35] <nomad111> and i cant seem to get it to work simply downloading and using the one on the official eclipse site
[03:35] <Dhraak[Gwaihir] > when I run gsynaptics, it tells me that I have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf
[03:35] <nomad111> it simply hangs when it comes to loading the workbench
[03:35] <JASe1> hi there ppl.  where can i get spanish support about ubuntu install ?
[03:35] <Dhraak[Gwaihir] > where in xorg.conf would I put this option?
[03:35] <Falstius> where is the smbpasswd in ubuntu?
[03:35] <FFForever> why cant i see linux on my windows after i rebooted?
[03:36] <sauvin> Aion, have you tried #ubuntu-es?
[03:36] <Aion> nope, ty
[03:36] <sauvin> FFForever, um, huh!?
[03:36] <threethreethree> Flannel, any advice?
[03:36] <FFForever> i installed samba..., set it up....
 oh, thought it was a bootloader problem
[03:36] <FFForever> rebooted 2 install another hd :D, and now i don't see meh samba
[03:36] <abhi> i am not able to pair my nokia phone using wammu. pls help?
[03:36] <Wolfgang> can an unclean shutdown mess up one's xorg.conf file?
[03:37] <Viper550> You can't access the shares from YOUR OWN computer on Samba
[03:37] <chrisfnet> quio: Not that I know of - it's pretty complex
[03:37] <konam> Falstius yeah
[03:37] <FFForever> Viper550, yeah u can :P
[03:37] <sauvin> Samba is for looking at shares on OTHER computers on the network.
[03:37] <FFForever> i know :)
[03:37] <FFForever> my windows computer is next 2 me :D
[03:37] <FFForever> it cant find linux anymore :(
  OK well thanks for the advice and your time.  Have a great weekend!
[03:37] <FFForever> after i rebooted
[03:37] <Flannel> threethreethree: you might try switching to a different mirror, us.archive.ubuntu.com, see if that helps
[03:37] <sauvin> so you DO have two computers, both running at the same time and on the same net?
[03:37] <obf213> does apt-get autoremove remove all packages that are not used
[03:38] <threethreethree> ok, i will try that, thank you
[03:38] <FFForever> yes.....
[03:38] <DjViper> what can I use to figure out which process is accessing the HDD ?
[03:38] <FFForever> i have 3 comptuers next 2 me :D
[03:38] <FFForever> 2 linux 1 windows...
[03:38] <Falstius> konam: er, really is there a sg3 (sg0 sg1 and sg2 should be your 3? SATA drives)
[03:38] <FFForever> my other linux (this computer...) cant see the linux that i just rebooted....
[03:38] <Wolfgang> does anyone here know if an unclean shut down messes with the xorg.conf file?
[03:38] <sauvin> Kk, it might not see your Linux because (1) you don't have Samba running on the Linux machine, or (2) you don't have the network running properly, or (3) you don't have your Windows machine's network facilities running properly, or (4) you don't have a network drive on Windows mapped...?
[03:39] <FFForever> i do :)
[03:39] <konam> Falstius there's no sg3, but the sg0,1,2 have an 'X' on them
[03:39] <sauvin> You're trying to get two linux machines to share directories?
[03:39] <FFForever> i could see it b4 i rebooted the other linux computer....
[03:39] <FFForever> i am trying 2 get all 3 2 share :D
[03:39] <FFForever> it was all fine intill i rebooted....
[03:39] <FFForever> how can i start samba directly?
[03:40] <sauvin> Can two or more linux machines share directories with samba?
[03:40] <sauvin> I'd use NFS.
[03:40] <FFForever> hes :D
[03:40] <FFForever> yes*
[03:40] <FFForever> ive done this b4....
[03:40] <Falstius> konam: that's just permissions.  I'm trying to think of a reason why your cdrom isn't being emulated as SCSI anymore, but also isn't mounted as /dev/hda
[03:40] <FFForever> and right now i just want windows 2 see both....
[03:41] <sauvin> Mmkay, you're saying right now Linux machine A isn't seeing samba shares on Linux machine B, correct?
[03:41] <royel> FFForever: /etc/init.d/samba start
[03:41] <drewh> greetings...anyone have any experience w/ an intel ipw3945?  It says the kill switch is on, any idea how to toggle it?
[03:41] <threethreethree> Flannel, no luck with those mirrors. Still says I cannot resolve. It appears it is a DNS issue from the error messages but I can resolve most any other site.
[03:42] <FFForever> how do i get output from samba?
[03:42] <FFForever> not through init.d
[03:42] <FFForever> there is another way 2 start it....
[03:42] <konam> Falstius it all started with the new motherboard, an foxconn, for the record
[03:43] <Falstius> konam: and you installed off of the CD so, I assume the board and cdrom are compatible.  Are there any ide=scsi type options in /boot/grub/menu.1st?
[03:43] <royel> FFForever: the only other way would be thru the gui, dont ask me how to do that, I have no clue when it comes to gui's
[03:44] <Gaming1>  I was trying to install tovid 0.30 and after typing './configure' in the terminal mode it asks me to type 'su -c "make install"', after which it asks me to give the password upon which I get an error ssaying that 'su:Authentication Failed, Sorry'
[03:44] <FFForever> there isn't like /etc/bin/samba?
[03:45] <Falstius> FFForever: check /var/log/samba/
[03:45] <royel> FFForever: samba, if installed should start at boot, if you've stopped it somehow, then the following: /etc/init.d/samba start or :sudo /etc/init.d/samba start is what you should do.
[03:46] <threethreethree> so i take it no one else is experiencing my same issues then
[03:46] <sidu> how to open 2 gedit  on desktop ? --
[03:46] <MichealxRock> hello i need help with blender can you help me
[03:46] <Gaming1>   I was trying to install tovid 0.30 and after typing './configure' in the terminal mode it asks me to type 'su -c "make install"', after which it asks me to give the password upon which I get an error ssaying that 'su:Authentication Failed, Sorry' What is the problem?
[03:47] <sidu> each time when i open a txt file, they are in one gedit -- i try to have 2 gedit open at the same time -- howto ?
[03:47] <rockets> Kev
[03:47] <MichealxRock> hello
[03:47] <MichealxRock> can you help me with blender 3d
[03:47] <LOWER_CASE> Gaming1: using 'su' logs you in as root: you need the root passwd, not yours.
[03:48] <FFForever> what is the default ubuntu root password?
[03:48] <MichealxRock> :(
[03:48] <rockets> Gaming1: also ubuntu has no root password by default. if you need a root shell use sudo -i
[03:48] <FFForever> and is it auto made when installing or is it one password fits all?
[03:48] <MichealxRock> can some one help with blender 3d
[03:48] <Gaming1> ok I will try
[03:48] <psilocyde> can anyone help me with this error code? "Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)"
[03:48] <konam> Falstius nope
[03:49] <sfreak> you can also use sudo passwd root to set a password
[03:49] <royel> FFForever: there is not one
[03:49] <royel> !root
[03:49] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:49] <pawan> can roboform be used with ubuntu
[03:49] <FFForever> can you unrm -r?
[03:49] <royel> FFForever: no
[03:49] <pawan> how to manually connect to broadband
[03:49] <MilitantPotato> is there a way to reset the KDEwallet password or am I on a wild goose chase?
[03:49] <Gaming1> After I enter the root how do I access the desktop
[03:49] <psilocyde> anyone?
[03:50] <Falstius> psilocyde: what?
[03:50] <MilitantPotato> Gaming1: /home/usrname/desktop
[03:50] <psilocyde> trying to upgrade and getting an errorcode
[03:50] <FFForever> so the root password is blank.....
[03:50] <psilocyde> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[03:50] <MichealxRock> ah im bord
[03:51] <royel> FFForever: not blank, not set, not active
[03:51] <pawan> how to rename the broadband connection
[03:51] <MichealxRock> can some one help me with blender 3d
[03:51] <LOWER_CASE> I clicked on Update: it's coming up with: firefox-gnome-support, libnspr4, libnss4, firefox, but warns "CAN'T BE AUTHENTICATED". What does this mean? Who do I trust?
[03:51] <Falstius> konam: I'm out of ideas :(  sorry.
[03:51] <MichealxRock> >:
[03:52] <MichealxRock> dose any one now how i can complete my first person shooter game in blender 3d
[03:52] <Gaming1> it says invalid directory
[03:52] <Siph0n> i tried searching ubuntuforums.org for reviews about the Dell Latitude D400.... but didnt see anything... anyone have experience with that laptop ?
[03:52] <Flannel> threethreethree: How about the IP itself?  Uh, ubuntu.com is... 82.211.81.158
[03:53] <psilocyde> would i have better luckin the forums?
[03:53] <Falstius> psilocyde: is your network working?  The file is there and isn't corrupted.
[03:53] <MichealxRock> >:o
[03:53] <Ademan> aren't there a couple projects for open router firmware?
[03:53] <psilocyde> im chatting with the same machine
[03:54] <MichealxRock> can any one any one help me please with blender 3d
[03:54] <MichealxRock> please
[03:54] <MichealxRock> :(
[03:54] <Ademan> MichealxRock: what's the problem?
[03:54] <Gaming1> Is there a substitute for the command "su -c "make install""?
[03:54] <MichealxRock> i need help with blender 3d
[03:54] <Falstius> psilocyde: is that the whole error?  Use pastebin if there are multiple lines.  Can you do wget http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 ?
[03:54] <nickrud> Siph0n, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellLatitudeC400
[03:54] <Ademan> MichealxRock: what exactly is the problem though?
[03:54] <MichealxRock> do you have any ideas
[03:54] <Ademan> does it not install?
[03:55] <Ademan> does it not run?
[03:55] <psilocyde> ill try that
[03:55] <MichealxRock> need help with my first person shooting game please help
[03:55] <MilitantPotato> where's the KDE folder?
[03:56] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I make feisty show a specific icon instead of a blank white one for a specific file type, for example jar file type?
[03:56] <threethreethree> Flannel, I can successfully ping the IP you provided
[03:56] <threethreethree> no problems at all
[03:56] <Q_Continuum> I have my Ubuntu laptop, which I want logged in normally, but I would also like to (via a second term, 1-6 or 8) log in over XDMCP...is this possible?  (have two X-sessions running simultaneously)?
[03:56] <Ademan> MichealxRock: i think you're in the wrong place, try #blender
[03:56] <nickrud> MilitantPotato, what do you mean by the kde folder?
[03:56] <FFForever> what would really happen if i ran rm -r / would i really destroy my system?
[03:56] <LOWER_CASE> Gaming1: how about 'sudo make install' (sudo runs the command with root privileges but not as root?)
[03:56] <MilitantPotato> the KDE wallet program folder
[03:57] <Falstius> FFForever: yes.
[03:57] <MilitantPotato> ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl
[03:57] <Ademan> FFForever: if you had the correct privileges, yes, but you'd need to sudo, or run it as root
[03:57] <konam> Falstius ok, thanks :)
[03:57] <MichealxRock> iv all ready tryed that
[03:57] <Pie-rate> what's the best place to put a script i want to run on boot? doesn't have to run that early, but it does have to run before login.
[03:57] <MilitantPotato> I'm not seeing .kde in root
[03:57] <daedra> AWESOME - I've now got vga=791 in my terminal :D
[03:58] <Gaming1> After configuring and compile it tells me to run setup.sh script by typing sudo ./setup.sh but I get an error saying that command not found
[03:58] <FFForever> how big are the ubuntu source cd's?
[03:58] <sleepster> anyone know why a fresh installation of Ubuntu would pause for about 3 minutes and then finally run
[03:58] <Ademan> MichealxRock: have you tried #gamedev on irc.afternet.org ? they always talk about making games, that's what a lot of them do for a living
[03:58] <sleepster> It pauses at the bootup
[03:58] <royel> FFForever: who told you to do that?
[03:58] <FFForever> a friend of mine...
[03:58] <royel> FFForever: not a good friend if you ask me
[03:58] <Falstius> FFForever: the install CD is 1 CD, about 700mb.  The source isn't on the CD but you can download it.
[03:59] <threethreethree> i have to run out for a second, if anyone has solutions please PM me or something. thanks again!
[03:59] <FFForever> i just need source cd's incase a client wants one i can give it to them to comply with gpl :)
[03:59] <MichealxRock> Ademan: thank you
[03:59] <FFForever> i am going 2 start giving out systems with ubuntu on it....
[04:00] <sleepster> My Ubuntu setup runs and then when it is showing me the Ubuntu logo, it just sits there for like 3 minutes, and then after... it continues to load
[04:00] <nickrud> MilitantPotato, that's because you haven't run kde as root, I'd guess
[04:00] <sleepster> would anyone know why it does that?
[04:00] <sleepster> or how I could figure out
[04:00] <sleepster> why it does tha
[04:00] <kitche> FFForever: really all you have to tell the client is how to get the source really to comply with the gpl
[04:00] <Gaming1> How do I return to the default user from root?
[04:01] <FFForever> but i like 2 have it on hand just incase......
[04:01] <daedra> Gaming1: su - [USERNAME] 
[04:01] <jessica> or just 'exit' if you got there via su
[04:01] <royel> Pie-rate: depending on what you need the script to do would make a huge difference, but if you are talking about a init script, try the example file in /etc/init.d/skeleton
[04:01] <Falstius> kitche: that's not always true, but I don't think in this case he'd really be considered the distributor.
[04:01] <daedra> the dash fully emulates all the users configuration files
[04:01] <Mr_Happy> how do I get the list of rooms
[04:01] <LOWER_CASE> Gaming1: do an ls setup*  You should see setup.sh in this directory (the . in ./setup.sh means look in the current working directory)
[04:01] <EADG_> Mr_Happy:   /list
[04:02] <Pie-rate> royel: found my answer in ubotu
[04:02] <Pie-rate> i guess the useless bot was useful for something for once. that thing pisses me off.
[04:02] <MilitantPotato> whats the command to delete files?
[04:02] <FFForever> can i have my system start eth0/1 but not call for a dhcp?
[04:02] <MilitantPotato> dl?
[04:02] <MilitantPotato> sudo dl blahblah ?
[04:03] <daedra> MilitantPotato: rm    BUT BE CAREFUL WITH IT
[04:03] <MilitantPotato> will do daedra
[04:03] <MilitantPotato> ty
[04:03] <FFForever> so where can i dl the source cd(s)..........
[04:03] <FFForever> i didn't see any dl location on the ubuntu site
[04:03] <daedra> MilitantPotato: I recommend typing sudo alias rm="rm -i"
[04:03] <Gaming1> there is no such directory
[04:03] <Ademan> FFForever: why do you need the source code?
[04:03] <Gaming1> as setup.sh?
[04:03] <kitche> FFForever: don't think ubuntu has source cd's
[04:03] <MilitantPotato> whats that do dae?
[04:04] <royel> FFForever:  there is no source cd's
[04:04] <Ademan> FFForever: if you need the source (which i doubt you do) of a package, you do sudo apt-get source package-name
[04:04] <FFForever> ..., i was reading the shipit thingie..., it said i could get source media if i pay for shipping
[04:04] <Ademan> or rather without the sudo
[04:04] <daedra> MilitantPotato: It 'renames' rm to ask if you're sure you want to delete that file
[04:04] <royel> !source | FFForever
[04:04] <ubotu> FFForever: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[04:04] <daedra> and then you just type y [ENTER] 
[04:04] <MilitantPotato> ah cool :)
[04:04] <Ademan> FFForever: i don't think it literaly means source code
[04:05] <brk3> can someone tell me if wine can run batch files..?
[04:05] <Pie-rate> if the answer could be given by "factoids" there could just be a website with them, with a much better interface than some stupid irc bot has. of course, the basic problem that the bot causes wouldn't really be solved, which is that everyone would spam http://omgfactoidthatyou'vealreadyseen instead of !omgfactoidthatyou'vealreadyseen
[04:05] <MilitantPotato> thanks again :)
[04:05] <Cerzu> so do i just ask for help in here
[04:05] <Cerzu> or do i go to a sub channel or somin?
[04:06] <royel> Pie-rate: but then, we couldn't have fun doing this...
[04:06] <LOWER_CASE> Gaming1: what do you see when you type this>     ls set*
[04:06] <daedra> Aresilek_: You can get source distrobutions - I've got an 8GB double sided disc of debian 4.0
[04:06] <astro76> Pie-rate, they certainly could, and are, but people don't read them and ask here
[04:06] <royel> !off-topic | Pie-rate
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <royel> Pie-rate: err
[04:06] <daedra> then theres Gentoo, Source Mage...
[04:06] <Aresilek_> daedra?
[04:06] <Pie-rate> royel: owned.
[04:06] <imaginator> are any of you familiar with how hw0:0 maps to an audio device?
[04:06] <royel> Pie-rate: what you talking about, I owned the bot :)
[04:07] <Gaming1> Can you just tell me how to install tovid-0.30?
[04:07] <Pie-rate> royel: more like the bot owned you.
[04:07] <Xecuter88> hi
[04:07] <daedra> Aresilek_: sorry wrong person
[04:07] <daedra> I'M CRAZY
[04:08] <imaginator> I'm using the program recordmydesktop with Feisty, and somehow it uses hw0:0 to mmap I guess the device, but it doesn't work.  I suspect because I have 2 audio cards.
[04:08] <Xecuter88> i need some help compiling, is this the right place to ask?
[04:08] <daedra> "IRC is just multiplayer notepad" :D
[04:08] <LOWER_CASE> Gaming1: personally, no.  Also if directing a question to an individual, please put their name first (like I have done with yours).
[04:08] <pawan> hi
[04:08] <pawan> how to use roboform in ubuntu
[04:08] <Cerzu> Ok, so i have been dual botting windows XP and Ubuntu on a 80G hard drive (w/ partitions, i only kept windows for world of warcraft) and it was working fine. It would ask me whenever i turned my computer on if i wanted Linux or Windows. However, when i installed vista it boots only to vista and doesn't give me the option for linux. The linux partition is still there and i TOLD vista to install on the xp partition but hey MS is gay li
[04:09] <FFForever> daedra, how do i use a go2line in notepad on irc?
[04:09] <Cerzu> im on my shitty windows atm
[04:09] <royel> Pie-rate: pff
[04:09] <royel> !offtopic | Pie-rate
[04:09] <ubotu> Pie-rate: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:09] <Xecuter88> Cerzu: you have to reinstall grub
[04:09] <Gaming1> Can someone just tell me how to install tovid-0.30?
[04:09] <astro76> !grub | Cerzu
[04:09] <ubotu> Cerzu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:09] <TheManiacKY> I have a ubuntu server running 7.04. It currently has 1 network card. IF I was to turn off the machine and pop an additional network card in it. Once the system boots up will it find the new network card and assign it to eth1? Or am I going to have to edit a million different config files?
[04:09] <daedra> FFForever: WHAT?
[04:09] <imaginator> Cerzu: you could probably make a boot CD or floppy with grub to fix it.
[04:09] <pawan> how to rename broadband conenction
[04:09] <imaginator> oops, too late :)
[04:09] <Cerzu> THANKS!
[04:09] <royel> Pie-rate: :)
[04:10] <Cerzu> haha is Ubotu a bot?
[04:10] <Falstius> pawan: you need to reinstall grub.  You can use a liveCD to do this.  There are instructions on google.
[04:10] <Cerzu> cause thats pretty accurate
[04:10] <royel> FFForever: what is notepad?
[04:10] <Falstius> !grub | pawan
[04:10] <ubotu> pawan: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:10] <FFForever> ...
[04:10] <psilocyde> i think i did this right http://pastebin.com/m5dcb1704
[04:11] <FFForever> i can go 2 the samba share directly.....
[04:11] <FFForever> now....
[04:11] <Cerzu> ok well im gonna go try to install grub thanks guys...WINDOWS SUCKz =P
[04:11] <FFForever> but i can see it on a list of workgroup computers....
[04:11] <Xecuter88> im trying to compile some drivers for my echo mia soundcard. Trying to get to work on UbuntuStudio. but when i run "./configure --with-cards=mia,via82xx --with-sequencer=yes" i get "checking for kernel linux/version.h... no
[04:11] <Xecuter88> The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist.
[04:11] <Xecuter88> Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[04:11] <Xecuter88> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[04:11] <Xecuter88> sources (default is /usr/src/linux)." What to do?
[04:11] <TheManiacKY> Help please. I have a ubuntu server running 7.04. It currently has 1 network card. IF I was to turn off the machine and pop an additional network card in it. Once the system boots up will it find the new network card and assign it to eth1? Or am I going to have to edit a million different config files?
[04:11] <mjs> royel it's the only bug free app from microsoft :)
[04:12] <imaginator> Xecuter88: did you install the Linux sources?
[04:12] <Falstius> pawan: sorry, I got the name wrong :)  That was for cerzu.
[04:12] <imaginator> there is a package you can install with synaptic
[04:12] <Xecuter88> imaginator: what do you mean? the kernel?
[04:12] <psilocyde> anybody read that pastbin link?
[04:12] <Cerzu> oh hey while im here can i shrink my linux partition and add that to my vista partition (for room for world of warcraft) while in ubuntu?
[04:13] <imaginator> Xecuter88: some drivers need the kernel sources, rather than just the binary (that Ubuntu includes and runs with).  So you'll need to install the kernel sources package.
[04:13] <Xecuter88> Crezu: not the root-partition. it's best to use a live-cd
[04:13] <Stettin|work> Can anyone help me edit some files on my USB HD (set to boot to Ubuntu) from a LiveCD? I made some changes trying to get active directory authentication working, now I can't even log in (I have backup files). I cannot rename/change files on my USB using the live nautilus, and when I sudo nautilus the usb disk isn't listed
[04:13] <Xecuter88> imaginator: how do i do that?
[04:14] <Cerzu> so you mean if i want to resize my partition i have to dump my ubuntu and re install?
[04:14] <imaginator> Xecuter88: use synaptic under System -> Administration
[04:14] <Xecuter88> and install?
[04:14] <Xecuter88> name?
[04:14] <Falstius> Cerzu: he meant you need to boot from a CD to resize the root partition.
[04:15] <Flannel> Cerzu: You can only move the foot of ext3 (and ntfs) partitions.  You do need to do it from a liveCD though
[04:15] <Cerzu> hmm not 100% clear on it but im sure ill manage
[04:15] <swaj> Question:  I installed Ubuntu Feisty on my laptop about 2 weeks ago, it went very quickly and I'm quite happy.  So I finally decided to convert my desktop to Unbuntu also, however I notice that during the copying files process it's taking significantly longer than my laptop did.  It's been copying for almost an hour and it's at 66%... it is progressing, but quite slowly.  Are there known issues with Ubuntu and SATA DVD burners?  I'm
[04:15] <swaj> not using traditional UATA
[04:15] <pawan> how to use wine windows media player
[04:15] <mjs> have anyone test it .net app under linux?
[04:15] <Cerzu> thanks for the help guys this is the first live chat ive been in ever that i wasnt laughed at for being a noob lol
[04:16] <imaginator> Xecuter88: according to dpkg --list:  linux-source-2.6.20                        2.6.20-16.29
[04:16] <royel> Cerzu: just kidding :)
[04:16] <psilocyde> im thinking i need to rebuild my repository indexes maybe, thinking something maybe wrong in there.
[04:16] <Cerzu> hmmm to disconnect from server can i just close this window?
[04:16] <psilocyde> can i get a hand with that?
[04:16] <royel> Cerzu: yes
[04:16] <imaginator> Xecuter88: that gets you the sources, and then you'll probably have to use that --with-kernel option
[04:17] <Cerzu> lol thanks guys
[04:17] <EADG_> Cerzu: /part then /quit
[04:17] <imaginator> Xecuter88:  on my machine after I installed that kernel source package it ends up in: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.20
[04:18] <Xecuter88> imaginator: ok. i'm installing now. let you know in a minute...
[04:18] <mm_202> Guys, is there an [easy]  want to to able to store my /home/user directory somewhere and (for example, a laptop) be able to offline and then have my files sync back up when it gets connected back to the network?  I guess a cross between nfs and svn.
[04:18] <imaginator> as most drivers that aren't part of the kernel and require the sources assume /usr/src/linux you probably will need: ./configure  --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.20  or something  like that.  Hopefully the driver comes with a README :)
[04:19] <niuq> ive installed c/c++ packet compiler for netbeans 5.5. and when i try to compile a proyect it ask for Resolve Missing Native Build tools.... i am running linux btw, and not sure if what i am missing is the g++ compiler
[04:19] <royel> mm_202: maybe rsync
[04:19] <Falstius> imaginator: the /usr/src/linux think went out of style with the 2.4 kernel.
[04:19] <mm_202> thanks royel, I'll check it out.
[04:20] <imaginator> can someone explain to me how magic sequences like this:  hw0:0 and hw1:0 map to ALSA audio devices?
[04:20] <imaginator> I can't seem to find them listed in dmesg
[04:20] <swaj> has anybody else notice very, very slow performance when copying from a Serial ATA dvd drive?
[04:21] <Falstius> swaj: if you want to send me a serial ATA dvd drive I'll test it for you :)
[04:21] <royel> Falstius: swaj: lol
[04:21] <swaj> Falstius, lol, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my desktop from a S-ATA dvd drive onto an S-ATA hard drive and it's soooooooooooooo slow
[04:21] <Falstius> niuq: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[04:22] <niuq> ok.
[04:22] <royel> swaj: just a guess, but sometimes the media reacts differently on different drives, some media works great on some drives and other it works terribly
[04:23] <imaginator> swaj: is it using a lot of CPU according to top?   It could be that the transfer mode has fallen back to a slower mode
[04:23] <swaj> imaginator, I'm trying to check Top, but my system is so bogged down it's taking forever to even load a terminal
[04:24] <swaj> imaginator, this in on a dual-core Opteron, too
[04:24] <imaginator> swaj: sounds like it's not using DMA then.
[04:25] <swaj> my CPU is actually almost idle
[04:25] <swaj> it's just my system is unresponsive
[04:25] <blazemonger> why is it that open source free software is functioning and performing better than alot of proprietary stuff?
[04:25] <blazemonger> like seq-24..ZERO latency i know it's a very simple interface but i could care less about some fancy interface
[04:25] <niuq> Falstius: did not found the package
[04:25] <swaj> imaginator, how do I check DMA?  I used to know the command but I forgot :/
[04:26] <niuq> ive installed c/c++ packet compiler for netbeans 5.5. and when i try to compile a proyect it ask for Resolve Missing Native Build tools.... i am running linux btw, and not sure if what i am missing is the g++ compiler
[04:27] <imaginator> swaj: can you find the lines in your dmesg that correspond to the device?  you might also try hdparm to see what it's set to use.
[04:27] <Falstius> niuq: my bad, there was an extra s, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:27] <niuq> Falstius: ok, i'll try it out
[04:28] <niuq> Falstius: and what is supposed to do that package?
[04:28] <zeldafan500> i have my msn hacked perfectly for nudge-bombing people. xD
[04:28] <pawan> how to use roboform in ubuntu
[04:29] <blazemonger> who needs roboform when you have all of the nice software
[04:29] <blazemonger> ubuntu has better sequencing software in functionality on older systems than most windows stuff
[04:29] <astro76> niuq, it installs gcc, g++, make, and a couple other things
[04:29] <pawan> any form filling and password remembering software
[04:29] <blazemonger> ubuntu has turned this old pentium into a low budget daw ehe
[04:29] <blazemonger> p3
[04:29] <imaginator> swaj: for example with my disk: sudo hdparm /dev/sda1  that reports what type of transfers it can perform, DMA and so on.
[04:29] <blazemonger> tand the only thing that it does is sequence midi :)
[04:30] <Xecuter88> looks like i didn't need to... tried to use a linux-header-folder and it worked...
[04:30] <home_> someone help me with 8500gt install???
[04:30] <niuq> astro76: ok thx
[04:30] <swaj> imaginator, installer finished finally - -rebooting to see what it's set to
[04:30] <Falstius> niuq: it will install the g++ and gcc compilers
[04:31] <blazemonger> are proprosed  prerelease updates reccomended in ubuntu fiesty?
[04:31] <home_> how do i get my 8500 gt installed properly?
[04:31] <nerdboy1024> someone help me track down the guy that sold me the POS hardware and kill him
[04:32] <home_> what are the steps to install 8500gt?
[04:32] <zabi1> Some oneone help me Figure out how to start a vnc session?
[04:32] <oneone> google vnc
[04:32] <Falstius> zabi1: I start one with vnc4server -geometry 1024x768 -fp /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc -depth 16 -extension XFIXES
[04:32] <imaginator> zabi1: are you doing a connection to a vncserver or starting a server?
[04:33] <swaj> imaginator, it's a DVD drive at /dev/scd0, it shows 3 lines and then says  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[04:33] <zabi1> imaginator: starting
[04:33] <Falstius> oneone: there are some known bugs in feisty's vnc that make starting it cryptic.
[04:33] <imaginator> I use tightvnc without any problems
[04:33] <home_> can someone refer me to a channel that actualy helps you?
[04:33] <obf213> is rythmbox anygood, or should i stick with exaile.
[04:33] <zabi1> imaginator: what if i dont have an active destop on the computer though
[04:34] <Gaming3> Does Nvidia Geforce Fx 5200 AGP require nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy drivers?
[04:34] <oneone> there are a lot of bugs in feisty
[04:34] <Xecuter88> obf213: you'll have to test it for you're self
[04:34] <zabi1> Gming3: i think just the glx
[04:34] <swaj> !nvidia | home_
[04:34] <niuq> Falstius: thx it worked
[04:34] <threethreethree> im back now if any one has any more suggestions
[04:34] <Gaming3> thanks
[04:34] <ubotu> home_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:34] <oneone> for one it is almost inposable to get apache, PHP and Mysql to work togeather
[04:34] <zabi1> gaming3: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:35] <oneone> !php
[04:35] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:35] <imaginator> zabi: you don't need one.  tightvncserver :1   (I think that initially asks for a password to setup vnc server)  then you can use vncviewer to connect to the server.
[04:35] <threethreethree> once again, the problem is ZERO accessibility to any official Ubuntu resources (sites and repositories namely)
[04:35] <zabi1> imaginator: how do i start a desktop if i dont have one active on the computer to vnc to
[04:35] <Falstius> oneone: my wife managed it just fine.
[04:35] <oneone> i did too
[04:35] <oneone> took me a few hours
[04:36] <imaginator> zabi1: : see that "tightvncserver :1"   run that :)
[04:36] <oneone> but broke down when i decided to use postgrs
[04:36] <zabi1> install that?
[04:36] <imaginator> or even tightvncserver :0
[04:36] <imaginator> zabi: yes install tightvnc.  I find it works pretty well.
[04:36] <zabi1> imaginator: if im not logged into my cmputer?
[04:36] <imaginator> I don't understand
[04:36] <zabi1> ok i restart my computer
[04:36] <Falstius> zabi1: you shouldn't use vnc over an open network.  It is better to use it with ssh.
[04:36] <home_> what the hell is the matter with you people? who you got to fuck in here or live next door to to get some mother foockin help? some mother fuckin ass holes are playin favorites in here
[04:36] <zabi1> imaginator: it wont let me vnc in if my deslptp isnt active
[04:37] <home_> fuck you !!
[04:37] <zabi1> Falstius: i use ssh
[04:37] <oneone> lol
[04:37] <zabi1> how do i use ssh to start an active desltop for me to vnc into
[04:37] <Falstius> zabi1: you can tunnel vnc through ssh to encrypt it.
[04:37] <imaginator> zabi1: you can install it over ssh with apt-get I think
 hello i need help
 i tried to install xubuntu using loop installer wubi
 but i have already downloaded the alternate install cd
 i want wubi to use it but how
 ?????
[04:38] <zabi1> Falstius: if i tullel it though putty that encrypts it?
[04:38] <zabi1> if it Tunnel*
[04:38] <Falstius> zabi1: you can do it with putty too
[04:38] <punklej> r efnet
[04:38] <ytutyutyu> can any body hear me hellooooooooooooooo
[04:38] <punklej> sldkfjas;lkfjasldkfja;lsdkfj
[04:38] <zabi1> Falstius: do you know how to start an active desktop though ssh so that i can vnc into my computer?
[04:38] <Falstius> /ignore ytutyutyu
[04:38] <Falstius> stupid gaim irc ...
[04:38] <peer> hi ytutyutyu
[04:38] <Gaming3> how to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:39] <ytutyutyu> hi
[04:39] <swaj> !enter | ytutyutyu
[04:39] <ubotu> ytutyutyu: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:39] <martoya> Gaming3: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 it didtn work with linux-source so i tried linux-headers-xxx-generic. but i'm running a lowlatency-kernel. is that going to be a problem?
[04:39] <imaginator> Gaming3: sudo youreditor /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:39] <peer> lol@ubotu
[04:39] <Falstius> zabi1: yeah, you ssh to the other machine.  apt-get install vnc4server or tightvncserver, and then run the server.
[04:39] <imaginator> Xecuter88: I don't know.  I'm not familiar with the changes of the low-latency kernel
 ok i'll just test it then...
[04:40] <Gaming3> thankls
 hello i need help
 i tried to install xubuntu using loop installer wubi
 but i have already downloaded the alternate install cd
 i want wubi to use it but how
 ?????
[04:40] <sport> what does seting up a ftp server mean opposed to not setting up ftp?
[04:40] <obf213> can you uninstall gaim after you have pidgin
[04:40] <obf213> or do they run on top of each other
[04:40] <scoobydoo28139> hello again help room
[04:41] <peer> !paste |yty
[04:41] <ubotu> yty: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:41] <MilitantPotato> I'm trying to run Firestarter on a non administrative account, but it keeps requesting an admin password, how can I make it launch w/o giving the password to the user.  Ubuntu Fiesty.
[04:41] <scoobydoo28139> I would like some install help with a nvidia card.
[04:41] <zabi1> 1Falstius: i installed tightvncserver and i typed in tight vncserver and it said Starting applications specified in /root/.vnc/xstartup
[04:41] <zabi1>  but it wont let me vnc into it
[04:41] <zabi1> scoobydoo29139: what kind of nvidia card is it? lspci to find out if oyu dont know
[04:42] <sport> what does setting up a ftp server mean opposed to not setting up ftp? is ftp file sharing ?
[04:42] <ari_stress> morning all :)
[04:42] <ari_stress> what is the latest desktop effect for ubuntu?
[04:42] <metbsd> anyone here?
[04:42] <Co_What> Hi......semua
[04:42] <zabi1> ari_stress: where are u located its11 at night here
[04:42] <Co_What> ada org indonesia di sini?
[04:42] <nickrud> MilitantPotato, http://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php
[04:42] <scoobydoo28139> zabil: It is a new nvidia pny 8500GT
[04:43] <Falstius> zabi1: what kind of error message do you get?
[04:43] <MilitantPotato> ty
[04:43] <metbsd> anyone here?
[04:43] <ari_stress> zabi1: i'm in GMT +7 (south east asian)
 compiz fusion i think. but still a beta. it's 04.43 here...
[04:43] <imaginator> scoobydoo28139: if you're lucky the System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager will work for you
[04:43] <swaj> is there a linux-equivalent to the windows SMB technology that doesn't require NFS?  Last I saw NFS was horrible, but I'd still like to see a way to mount folders remotely in Linux to make file sharing a bit easier
[04:43] <Co_What> ada orang indonesia di sini?
[04:43] <ari_stress> Xecuter88: thanks
[04:43] <nickrud> MilitantPotato, use the path they mention for debian, and use use visudo to edit
[04:43] <scoobydoo28139> imaganator: it doesn't
[04:43] <ziroday> !id | Co_What
[04:43] <ubotu> Co_What: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[04:44] <Falstius> swaj: samba is the linux version of windows file sharing (they are compatible)
[04:44] <mjs> how can I writte something with nano with accents (I guess it's the word in english) like for example    etc..
[04:44] <Jhovall> Can someone help me with installing a scanner?
[04:44] <MilitantPotato> ok
[04:44] <Co_What> thanks ubotu :)
[04:44] <MilitantPotato> ty nickrud
[04:44] <wckdklw0n> i am currently using ubuntu live cd and was wondering if there was a way i can update this and make a new live cd with everything i have done so far (saved settings etc)
[04:44] <swaj> Falstius, I know, but what I'm saying is, can I do something *like* samba between Linux boxes?  I know samba works for Linux -> Linux, but I didn't know if there was something better out there
[04:45] <echosystm> hi, I have just learned that my ISP has a ubuntu repository online. however, some of the packages are not completely up to date. can i have my ISP repository as #1 priority, but default to the official ubuntu repo when packages are out of date? regardless... my internet is capped and I need to install ubuntu, so i gotta setup the ISP repo. can someone guide me through this?
[04:45] <Falstius> swaj: why do something 'like' samba instead of samba?
[04:45] <mjs> for example when i writte ol it apears Ol is this normal?
[04:45] <imaginator> swaj: there is NFS.  there are also some other more scalable shared filesystems you could use.
[04:45] <firebird612> How come when I try to uninstall desktop-effects to be able to install compiz fusion, it says it is going to remove ubuntu-desktop as well?
[04:46] <echosystm> here is the liste of repositories: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/763778.html i don't know how to add the sources
[04:46] <swaj> imaginator, NFS the last time I looked at it was pretty much garbage -- that aside, I'm assuming NFS and Samba are about my only real choices?
[04:46] <Falstius> swaj: afs is also an option.
[04:47] <mjs> echosystm: to edit your repositories lis just nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:47] <scoobydoo28139> zabil: any ideas? or maybe some can point to step by step instructions?
[04:47] <jsestri2> Does anyone here know how well aiglx works with XV compared to xgl?
[04:47] <NemesisD> ok guys, out of the blue this machine i've been trying to install ubuntu on (which has been having alot of problems) now won't detect any ide drives, ive tried 2 different cables on both channels, nothing, anything else i should try before i consider my dreams of a fileserver forever lost?
[04:47] <nickrud> firebird612, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, a list of packages to install. You can safely remove ubuntu-desktop; it's useful mostly when upgrading to a new release
[04:47] <echosystm> ok now what about the key files?
[04:47] <imaginator> Falstius: do you know what became of the plans to incorporate GFS into the kernel?
[04:47] <jsestri2> NemesisD: do you have a wierd system?
[04:48] <firebird612> nickrud: Ok, thanks
[04:48] <echosystm> "Release.gpg"
[04:48] <echosystm> there are 3 of them
[04:48] <Falstius> imaginator: I'm not sure why a bulk food store has to do with filesystems ... but I don't know anything.
[04:48] <imaginator> oh, I see a GFS2 in the sources.  So I guess it got merged
[04:48] <mjs> echosystm sorry that i can't help you i'm still a noob :P
[04:48] <Nutubuntu> firebird612, if you do remove ubuntu-desktop, do *remember* that you did so, when you later try to upgrade. :)
[04:48] <echosystm> ok
[04:48] <echosystm> :P
[04:48] <echosystm> thanks
[04:48] <echosystm> anyone else?
[04:48] <imaginator> GFS is Redhat's distributed filesystem.  I'm not sure how it compares to NFS, but it might be better.
[04:49] <firebird612> Nutubuntu: Ok, Thank you
[04:49] <Falstius> swaj: if you tell use what you're trying to accomplish maybe we can give you a better answer.
[04:49] <mjs> echosystm that's like what? repositories that need authentication?
[04:49] <NemesisD> jsestri2, i dunno, 754 2.1 or 2.2ghz amd64, 1gb generic ram, chaintech nforce3 mobo, some old hard drives
[04:49] <Nutubuntu> Does anyone know, is something like "make sure you have installed (k|x)ubuntu-desktop first" now part of the upgrade instructions each time?
[04:50] <jsestri2> NemesisD: Are you sure that your drives have the correct configuration (jumpers etc.) Are you using RAID? Can your BIOS see the drives?
[04:50] <Nutubuntu> NemesisD, does the bios see the drives?
[04:50] <Flannel> Nutubuntu: update-manager takes care of it, but for the manual ones, yes.  All your metapackages should be there (linux-[arch] , *ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-standard)
[04:50] <scoobydoo28139> imaginator: any ideas?
[04:50] <xilef___> Hi
[04:50] <swaj> Falstius, I just want my laptop to be able to mount a "Music" folder on my desktop.  I'm thinking samba will be best
[04:51] <Nutubuntu> t/y Flannel - I was bitten by that omission, once, back when...
[04:51] <NemesisD> jsestri2, Nutubuntu, it was the other day, not anymore, cleared cmos, loaded failsafe defaults, jsestri2: no raid, jumpers correct
[04:51] <echosystm> yes mjs
[04:51] <echosystm> you need to load the keys in
[04:51] <echosystm> or you get encryption errors
[04:52] <wckdklw0n> i am currently using ubuntu live cd and was wondering if there was a way i can update this and make a new live cd with everything i have done so far (saved settings etc)
[04:52] <jsestri2> NemesisD: If your BIOS can't see your drives, Ubuntu sure as hell won't beable to
[04:52] <imaginator> scoobydoo28139: you can download the nvidia drivers, telinit to a different runlevel *I think* and build and install them with the console-mode tool that nvidia includes.
[04:52] <Falstius> swaj: it will certainly be easiest.
[04:52] <Nutubuntu> NemesisD,  if the drives are *not* detected in the bios, and no physical changes were made (e.g, cabling, etc.) ... sounds like time for either a cheap IDE card or a new mobo
[04:52] <imaginator> scoobydoo28139: btw what's the problem with the restricted driver manager?
[04:52] <Falstius> imaginator: gfs looks like the redhat answer to zfs (sun)
[04:52] <nickrud> Nutubuntu, in a quick scan of the upgrade notes, it's not up in bright letters, no
[04:52] <Flannel> Nutubuntu: I believe it's been part of the docs since at least Breezy upgrades.
[04:52] <xilef___> I have an external PCMCIA sound card and the driver seems dead. I wanted to know how can I restart it ?
[04:52] <girls_moet> hi
[04:52] <NemesisD> Nutubuntu,  ugh project scrapped then, im just going to get a new video card instead :(
[04:53] <bathat_> i've been trying to recover my partition table for some time now and i've run testdisk multiple times
[04:53] <bathat_> it was able to reveal partition information and files but i never wrote the data to disk
[04:53] <Nutubuntu> t/y nickrud, Flannel :) ... IIRC it was the Breezy upgrade that baffled me. It's been awhile now...
[04:53] <bathat_> now it just says 'Disk doesn't contain a valid partition table'
[04:53] <bathat_> is it possible that running testdisk so often resulted in corruption???
[04:53] <Nutubuntu> NemesisD, I'm not by any means lordgawdkinghardware, so take what i say with a grain of salt. But ... if the BIOS doesn't see the drives something fairly basic is wrong.
[04:54] <imaginator> bathat_: I'd imagine you'd have to run it thousands of times to see any effect.  Is your hardware flakey?
[04:54] <nickrud> Nutubuntu, I also, hoary->breezy, it was unexpected ...
[04:54] <bathat_> imaginator, it shows up in the bios
[04:54] <jsestri2> NemesisD: before you go for all is lost, play with the cables a little, make sure they are seated fully etc.
[04:54] <bathat_> but it wasn't at one point and it only did once i switched in and out hdd's
[04:55] <bathat_> it's just really odd how the partition table was fine last night after a testdisk scan and now it's wacked
[04:55] <Falstius> Nutubuntu: you did set the jumpers on the HDs correctly, right?
[04:56] <imaginator> bathat_: so it passes the initial POST?  but now your partition table is corrupt?  did you change anything last night?
[04:56] <Getupstandup> Hi
[04:56] <bathat_> it's entirely possible that the hardware is flaky
[04:56] <Nutubuntu> Falstius,  it is NemesisD who is having the problem; I think he said he had set jumpers correctly though
[04:56] <Getupstandup>  I need program to change format .dat to .txt. I have Linux Ubuntu 7.04. Pleasy answer me... [My english is terrible] 
[04:56] <bathat_> this all started when i ran dd on /dev/sda1
[04:56] <Falstius> Nutubuntu: sorry.
[04:56] <Nutubuntu> n/p Falstius
[04:56] <bathat_> which apparently wiped out my MBR
[04:56] <bathat_> so i'm trying to recover the partitions and install grub again
[04:57] <cardanto1> hey there, trying to upgrade my ubuntu distro to 6.10 and getting lots of errors like this one (while fetching files) "Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found" -- any thoughts?
[04:57] <SchighSchagh> Can anyone help me install a scanner?
[04:57] <bathat_> SchighSchagh, xsane
[04:57] <SchighSchagh> bathat_ it doesn't detect my scanner
[04:57] <Nutubuntu> SchighSchagh,  have you verified that your scanner will work with Linux?
[04:58] <stroyan> bathat_: Was /dev/sda1 the source or the destination for dd ?
[04:58] <bathat_> i'd look at their website
[04:58] <bathat_> well, the input file was /dev/zero and the output was /dev/sda1
[04:58] <eboyjr> How can I install a network scanner? It doesn't detect it.
[04:58] <pawan1234> how to open rar files
[04:59] <dabaR> !rar
[04:59] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:59] <SchighSchagh> Nutubuntu yes I have. it is a very old scanner though and I think the problem comes from the fact that I'm using an adapter to convert to a USB port.
[04:59] <bathat_> dabaR, file-roller can do it, i'm sure
[04:59] <dabaR> bathat_: that is a front-end
[04:59] <bathat_> i know
[04:59] <Nutubuntu> SchighSchagh, I've wondered about that kind of thing. Serial port to USB adapter?
[05:00] <bathat_> not what pawan1234 is looking for, okay
[05:00] <swaj> !nvidia
[05:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:00] <cardanto1> my thoughts on the error "Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found" is that i need to update my lists file, ist that correct?
[05:00] <nickrud> cardanto1,  http://packages.freecontrib.org doesn't have an ubuntu dir anymore
[05:00] <swaj> !sli
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <SchighSchagh> Notubuntu, No; I don't even know what the port is called. It's ancient. Let me see if I can look it up.
[05:00] <cardanto1> nickrud -- any thoughts on how to fix this?
[05:00] <nickrud> cardanto1, so, remove it from your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:00] <cardanto1> nickrud, got it, but what do i replace it with?
[05:01] <bathat_> stroyan, if i could just write the fixed partition table to disk, i'd be set
[05:01] <nickrud> !medibuntu | cardanto1
[05:01] <ubotu> cardanto1: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:01] <TheManiacKY> HELP : Is there like some magic command I can run to have linux autodetect the new NIC I just installed? Or do I have to reinstall the OS for it to find the card? (I hope not the later)
[05:01] <bathat> but that's proving to be very difficult
[05:01] <dabaR> bathat_: no, that's not it, read the linked page, and you will know.
[05:01] <milllmannn> anyone know where the log file for postfix is stored in dapper?
[05:01] <DaniloCesar> O trying to install Ubuntu on my PC, but I'm having the "Loading, please wait" message and nothing happen! I'm stuck. What can I do?
[05:01] <stroyan> bathat: I've never needed to use testdisk.  Just lucky so far.
[05:01] <Tnax> does anyone know of a player or codecpack that makes it possible to play .amr files?
[05:02] <nickrud> cardanto1, that the most likely place to get the stuff that was in plf. But I'd just comment out that part of the sources.list during the upgrade. In fact, I'd be inclined to comment out anything but official ubuntu during an upgrade
[05:02] <cardanto1> sorry guys, i am confused, so what should i use, i wasn't going to use !medibuntu
[05:02] <Safrole> How big should the \boot partition be?
[05:02] <Safrole> Does 500 megs seem sensible?
[05:03] <peer> safrole : atleast 6'
[05:03] <dabaR> Safrole: for Ubuntu? You can just leave it on /
[05:03] <Safrole> I'm doing this by myself.. because I pressed some dumb multimedia key and now ubuntu won't load
[05:03] <Safrole> GRUB gets hung up on Error 17
[05:03] <Safrole> so I'm following instructions for reinstalling grub
[05:04] <dabaR> Safrole: they say to repartition?
[05:04] <Falstius> Safrole: you don't need /boot (unless you really know what you're doing and then why are you asking here?), but 100mb is plenty
[05:04] <cyberphaz> hmm i installed samba, now i have a "Shared folders" in my management section..but nowhere to configure samba itself...where do i configure samba? (since the shared folders are not showing up in my windows box as being shared)
[05:04] <bathat> it should just be a matter of grub-install
[05:04] <bathat> or use the SuperGRUB CD
[05:04] <nickrud> milllmannn, /var/log, as mail*.log
[05:04] <BrendanM> cyberphaz, you can configure samba by editing /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:04] <BrendanM> alternatively, there are some browser-based config utilities
[05:04] <cyberphaz> is it needed to make the shared folders work?
[05:05] <Nutubuntu> TheManiacKY,  did anyone answer you? The new nic should be discovered at boot time; you should not need to do anything drastic to make that happen.
[05:05] <cyberphaz> i assumed that since it added the "shared folders" in my management section of Gnome, that it would work
[05:05] <BrendanM> cyberphaz, I think you can also just right-click on a folder in nautilus
[05:05] <BrendanM> and enable sharing from there
[05:05] <C0_Wh4t> ada orang indonesia di sini?
[05:05] <BrendanM> it'll automatically add that folder to your smb.conf
[05:05] <cyberphaz> hmmm ok, wierd i dont see it then
[05:05] <Falstius> cyberphaz: you should also run smbpasswd to create a smb user.  sudo smbpasswd -a username
[05:06] <BrendanM> I have a different samba question
[05:06] <BrendanM> so until recently I was able to access my samba server by its netbios name
[05:06] <BrendanM> but recently I can only get to it by IP
[05:06] <interfear> what do you all recommend for an ubuntu partition? 20gb?
[05:06] <sodani_> can someone tell me where the iptables init script is installed?
[05:06] <dabaR> and you did not disable it in the config?
[05:07] <netyire> hi! how do you install software to your palm?
[05:07] <BrendanM> I'm on a campus network that resolves domain names using WINS, so is there something I need to do to make samba identify itself to WINS?
[05:07] <interfear> 10gb should probably be enough for anything you could possible want for linux i would assume
[05:07] <kkrusty> has anyone installed the bcm43xx-fwcutter package?
[05:07] <peer> sodani, install fedora instead
[05:07] <mavsman4457> Hi I am trying to install Ubuntu on my Dell Dimension XPS T700r, which is pretty slow, and when I boot up to the CD I go to the install then it gives me a black screen with my mouse that I can move around, with lag
[05:07] <dabaR> !anyone > kkrusty
[05:07] <sodani_> peer: does that mean that there is no init script?
[05:07] <mjs> how do I writte  letter with nano??
[05:07] <kkrusty> dabaR: sorry
[05:07] <netyire> hi! how do you install software to your palm?
[05:08] <SchighSchagh> I have a scanner with an SCSI port that I'm converting to a USB port through a series of adapters. Can anyone help me install the scanner?
[05:08] <peer> there is
[05:08] <kkrusty> I get an invalid MD5Sum when I install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:08] <BrendanM> mavsman4457, you might have better luck with the alternate text-mode installer CD. Especially if the system is really slow
[05:08] <dabaR> !repeat > netyire
[05:08] <BrendanM> mavsman4457, it's not really any harder to use, but it doesn't require as much RAM for the installer (and there's no live CD functionality)
[05:08] <mavsman4457> BrendanM: I was going to try avoiding burning a new disc :/
[05:08] <Absenth> !wpa
[05:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:09] <smoenux> I'm trying to run a Java App, but I get "No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH variable".... I have all the Sun Java stuff installed. What can I do to fix?
[05:09] <kkrusty> my wireless adapter used to work in edgy and its not working in feisty now
[05:09] <netyire> anyone know how to use gnome-pilot's file conduit to install files?
[05:09] <peer> smoenux : set environments
[05:09] <Nutubuntu> SchighSchagh, what error(s) are you seeing?
[05:09] <stroyan> netyire: I use jpilot to install files to a palm (abacus watch)
[05:09] <SchighSchagh> Notubuntu, xsane is not detecting any scanners.
[05:10] <SchighSchagh> Notubuntu, "no devices available"
[05:10] <peer> etc/environments should contain 'JAVA_HOME=/path/to/jvm'
[05:10] <SchighSchagh> Notubuntu, sane-find-scanner can't find it either, even as root
[05:10] <smoenux> peer: aaa... thanks
[05:10] <smoenux> gonna try that quick
[05:10] <peer> np
[05:10] <Wahyudinata> hmm i tried googling it but i cant find it so here it goes, what the hell is up with respawning too fast error in installing ubuntu??
[05:10] <mavsman4457> BrendanM: I have been on that black screen for a couple of hours now, it's not going to do anything is it?
[05:11] <sodani_> no one know where the iptables init script is?
[05:11] <peer> hmmmm, cant believe i actually had information to share with someone
[05:11] <lunargrove> Hey, does anyone know of any good statistics packages on the magnitude of SPSS for Linux?
[05:11] <netyire> stroyan: thanks for the reply! I've tried jpilot, the sync fails though :(, gnome-pilot seems to be able to work with the device :D! just that when you click system -> preferences -> palmos devices -> conduits, the file conduits says it installs files on the palm, any idea how to make it work?
[05:11] <BrendanM> mavsman4457, I really doubt it. I'd say bite the bullet and burn the text installer CD
[05:11] <BrendanM> use a CD-RW if that makes you feel less wasteful
[05:11] <mavsman4457> ok thanks
[05:12] <Nutubuntu> SchighSchagh, IDK what to tell you. That's farther along than I had to go to install mine....
[05:12] <BrendanM> lunargrove, you can try R. It's a really hardcore stats software
[05:12] <Nutubuntu> lunargrove,  R?
[05:12] <BrendanM> lunargrove, it's a lot harder to use than SPSS though.
[05:12] <mavsman4457> BrendanM: This CD is also old, I probably got it September 06, could that make a difference?
[05:12] <Wahyudinata> anybody?
[05:12] <lunargrove> I'll look into it :) I'm thinking about switching from Mac to Linux and I need a good stats package for my Master's thesis work.
[05:13] <stroyan> netyire: Are you using /dev/pilot?  and does it appear when you tell the palm to hotsync?
[05:13] <netyire> check http://linux.die.net/man/1/gpilot-install-file , however, is there a way to do it using a gui , preferably gnome-pilot though :D
[05:13] <pawan1234> rar file not opening
[05:13] <pawan1234> its on desktop
[05:13] <dissection> I have a rather silly question to ask but forgive me for being stupid. When my Amarok plays, it shows the album cover for some MP3s even though there's no jpg file in the MP3 folder. Where is it getting that from? Is it embedded into the MP3? How is that done? What is it called? Can I manually add any picture I want?
[05:13] <BrendanM> lunargrove, R is really powerful. All the stats professors at my school use it for their research
[05:13] <BrendanM> but the learning curve is steep
[05:13] <netyire> stroyan: currently I think its /dev/ttyS0
[05:13] <Falstius> lunargrove: my wife uses R
[05:13] <lunargrove> That's ok with me, I really don't mind reading and trying things out until I get it
[05:13] <stroyan> netyire: Oh.  I use a usb connection.
[05:14] <lunargrove> ooh, there's an OS X build
[05:14] <Nutubuntu> :)
[05:14] <pawan1234> how to extrat rar file
[05:14] <Wahyudinata> hello?
[05:14] <Static> haha, I just did one of the smartest thing I could have possibly done (im new to the whole linux thing)
[05:15] <BrendanM> lunargrove, yeah R is available for all major OSes. There's also some GUIs out there too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RKWard
[05:15] <peer> is it bad to have both java 5 and 6 installed at the same time
[05:15] <netyire> stroyan: :D! maybe jpilot works better with that. righto, try the command line :), thanks!
[05:15] <dabaR> pawan1234: and you installed the rar package?
[05:15] <Wahyudinata> anybody? im gettin no love here
[05:15] <Nutubuntu> !ask | Wahyudinata
[05:15] <ubotu> Wahyudinata: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:16] <peer> hi wahy
[05:16] <lunargrove> Drat, RKWard is KDE :(
[05:16] <nickrud> peer, no, it's fine, and you can select which you want to use by sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:16] <Wahyudinata> i did
[05:16] <royel> dissection: I can't give you some specifics, but alot of that is downloaded from the cd database
[05:16] <pawan> how to install rar package
[05:16] <Wahyudinata> hmm i tried googling it but i cant find it so here it goes, what the hell is up with respawning too fast error in installing ubuntu??
[05:16] <Tnax> anyone know of a player or codec pack that can play .amr files??
[05:16] <dissection> royel: So won't it be there if I disconnect from the internet?
[05:17] <royel> dissection: anything that it has already downloaded will be.
[05:17] <peer> !pos
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <dissection> royel: And how is it saved? As a jpg or is it somehow embedded into the MP3? In other words, if I copy the same MP3 file to another computer that does not have an internet connection, will it show up there too?
[05:17] <Wahyudinata> !ask test
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask test - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <Wahyudinata> !ask hmm i tried googling it but i cant find it so here it goes, what the hell is up with respawning too fast error in installing ubuntu??
[05:18] <nickrud> dissection, you can embed cover art, easytag is an easy way to do that
[05:18] <BrendanM> Wahyudinata, what're you trying to do?
[05:18] <peer> wahy, try the text installer
[05:18] <royel> dissection: it's saved as some file type, maybe jpg, I'm not certain
[05:18] <dissection> nickrud: Oh cool :D
[05:18] <royel> dissection: it's not imbedded though
[05:18] <Wahyudinata> peer: let me try that
[05:18] <dissection> Oh
[05:18] <cyberphaz> !samba
[05:18] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:18] <Wahyudinata> BrendanM: installing it
[05:18] <BrendanM> yeah, cyberphaz, SWAT is pretty good I heard
[05:19] <royel> pawan: sudo apt-get install rar
[05:19] <scoobydoo28139> is there a how-to for installing my video card?
[05:19] <BrendanM> Wahyudinata, yeah, I'd try the text installer
[05:20] <BrendanM> scoobydoo, what kind of video card?
[05:20] <peer> lol that is 2 people i helped
[05:20] <jos1> anyone here use xen?
[05:20] <peer> jos1, i use zest
[05:20] <Wahyudinata> BrendanM: how to access that?
[05:20] <pros1> ah yes, irish fresh it is
[05:20] <dissection> nickrud: Any idea how is its saved? Is it part of the ID3, or saved separately somewhere as a hidden file?
[05:21] <peer> lol
[05:21] <SchighSchagh> Can anyone help me install a scanner?
[05:21] <scoobydoo28139> if this is the listed ubuntu help channel it is kinda , well , bad
[05:21] <WooD> hi all
[05:21] <BrendanM> Wahyudinata, unfortunately, it's a separate CD image you have to download and burn. Does anyone know why they don't build it into the live CD too?
[05:21] <WooD> how to make a backup of /var/www files ?
[05:21] <peer> sch, hand me the cables
[05:21] <BrendanM> scoobydoo, what do you want?
[05:21] <pawan> installed rar now
[05:22] <pawan> how to open rar file
[05:22] <Wahyudinata> BrendanM: holy cupcake, i'll just install the server version then
[05:22] <netyire> pawan: install unrar, try to open with file-roller
[05:22] <BrendanM> Nobody can help you if we don't even know what kind of video card you have
[05:22] <nickrud> dissection, everything I see uses embedded as the terminology, but ....
[05:22] <BrendanM> Wahy, you can do the server install and then type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to add all the desktop software
[05:22] <scoobydoo28139> nvidia 8500gt
[05:22] <royel> scoobydoo28139: If you want better support, you could always use the official ubuntu support methods, of course those will involve a fee.
[05:23] <pawan> installed unrar
[05:23] <BrendanM> scoobydoo, did you look in the Ubuntu forums for that card?
[05:23] <C0_Wh4t> I can't change my resolusion display, I'm use PCI-eX Ati Radeon X1600XT
[05:23] <pawan> now how to open rar file with file-roller
[05:23] <netyire> pawan: try double clicking the .rar file you want to open
[05:23] <swaj> how do I force apt to install wine from the wine repos instead of from the ubuntu repos?  the version that winehq has is newer, and I'd rather use it
[05:23] <C0_Wh4t> my resolusion optin only 1028x768
[05:23] <netyire> pawan: it doesn't have to be painful ;)
[05:23] <royel> pawan: sudo unrar /file/to/open /directory/to/open/to
[05:23] <pawan> its opened
[05:24] <pawan> thanks
[05:24] <netyire> pawan: :D
[05:24] <Wahyudinata> BrendanM: can I do that using the desktop and apt get the server apps?
[05:24] <BrendanM> scoobydoo, here you go: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2768497
[05:24] <peer> lol
[05:24] <scoobydoo28139> brendanm: yes i looked around the forums and concluded to get the drivers from nvidia, i did but everytime i do my machine won't start
[05:24] <Falstius> swaj: the newer version should be choosen automatically
[05:24] <scoobydoo28139> need to get help configuring x something
[05:24] <BrendanM> Wahyudinata, you can apt-get basically everything. Is it LAMP you want for the server?
[05:24] <Wahyudinata> yes
[05:25] <BrendanM> scoobydoo, xorg.conf?
[05:25] <Wahyudinata> P=for php
[05:25] <swaj> Falstius, it's not -- it keeps getting wine-0.9.33 from the ununtu repository instead of wine-0.9.41 from winehq
[05:25] <royel> !resolution | C0_Wh4t
[05:25] <ubotu> C0_Wh4t: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:25] <pawan> can we use roboform in ubuntu
[05:25] <scoobydoo28139> brenanm: i think so
[05:25] <swaj> Falstius, nevermind, I forgot to do a "sudo apt-get update" after I added the winehq repositories
[05:26] <pawan> how to install windoors applications
[05:27] <BrendanM> Wahyudinata: here's a LAMP guide: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies   I think I used a different one when I set up my LAMP server, but that one looks like it should work
[05:27] <xtknight> pawan, use Wine-Doors
[05:27] <xtknight> no kidding
[05:27] <Wahyudinata> wiiiiii
[05:27] <Wahyudinata> BrendanM: thanks
[05:28] <xtknight> pawan, you have options of !virtualization and !wine  .  for configuring WINE, you can use Wine-Doors http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/
[05:28] <cyberphaz> does samba "need" a seperate user for it per se? i see the samba share but i cant access it...
[05:28] <scoobydoo28139> sudo
[05:28] <cyberphaz> as in, i can see the pc..
[05:28] <xtknight> cyberphaz, it doesn't *need* one, but it's highly preferable
[05:28] <xtknight> and secure..
[05:28] <CineScope> i have wine 0.9.41 and don't have the winehq repositories
[05:28] <BrendanM> cyberphaz, not necessarily
[05:29] <cyberphaz> well atm i can see the samba pc, but if i double click it complains it cant access it
[05:29] <BrendanM> if your network is secure, you can set security mode to "share"
[05:29] <xtknight> cyberphaz, this samba PC you're trying to access is a Linux?
[05:29] <BrendanM> and then any computer can access it without authenticating
[05:29] <cyberphaz> yep ubuntu...
[05:29] <CineScope> it just came across in the last day or two
[05:30] <xtknight> cyberphaz, and you're trying to access it from a Windows macihne?
[05:30] <cyberphaz> phazzie server (samba ubuntu) it says in my windows explorer
[05:30] <cyberphaz> yes xtknight
[05:30] <pawan> i want to install winamp
[05:30] <xtknight> cyberphaz, it's probably easiest to go the other way.  unfortunately i'm not sure what to do about your problem
[05:30] <xtknight> cyberphaz, other way, meaning Linux tries to access Windows PC
[05:30] <netyire> pawan: try it with wine, winehq.com
[05:30] <cyberphaz> i tried that, wont work cos its vmware :P
[05:30] <CineScope> it is in fiesty-backports
[05:31] <xtknight> cyberphaz, vmware?  so ;)
[05:31] <Falstius> cyberphaz: you need to allow browsing.
[05:31] <kersinc> ubuntu en espaol k alguien me diga
[05:31] <cyberphaz> it already says "browsable= yes" i added the share via the shared files from the admin menu
[05:31] <BrendanM> cyberphaz, you can also set "security = share" in smb.conf, but only do that if your network is secure/isolated/you don't care who gets at those files
[05:32] <cyberphaz> hmm ok
[05:32] <Falstius> cyberphaz: did you create a user with smbpasswd?
[05:32] <BrendanM> That's what he didn't do
[05:32] <Civik> StefG you here?
[05:32] <cyberphaz> falstius, i was told it doesnt need a user per se
[05:32] <Nutubuntu> !es | kersinc
[05:32] <ubotu> kersinc: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:32] <BrendanM> que beuno!
[05:32] <BrendanM> *bueno
[05:33] <Falstius> cyberphaz: it needs a user unless you do as BrendanM suggests and change the mode.  I would suggest adding a user, it is easy.  sudo smbpasswd -a username
[05:34] <smoenux> after changing the PATH environment variable.... do I need to restart some service or something so that it knows it changed, or will it automatically have a effect?
[05:35] <BrendanM> you probably need to restart something, but I have no idea what
[05:35] <pawan> i want to install winamp
[05:35] <smoenux> xmms
[05:35] <smoenux> !xmms
[05:35] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:36] <smoenux> pawan: try xmms ... it's a Winamp clone
[05:36] <Civik> Anyone know how to get ahold of stefg?
[05:36] <pawan> but there are no equilizer
[05:36] <pawan> no visualizations effects
[05:36] <smoenux> I remember seeing one
[05:37] <BrendanM> pawan, there is a visualizer, but I had to compile it myself
[05:37] <smoenux> ok... ya... I dont know about visualization
[05:37] <BrendanM> I could find it for you if you want. Visualization is very spotty on Linux. Which sucks
[05:37] <pawan> ya
[05:37] <smoenux> why not use something nice, like amarok? :P
[05:37] <pawan> how to get visualizations for amarok
[05:38] <cyberphaz> bah still doesnt work...oh well another time then damn samba
[05:38] <Falstius> pawan: there is an equalizer and visualization plugins.  you can install them using apt (not need to compile yourself)
[05:38] <BrendanM> pawan, here: http://xmms-projectm.sourceforge.net/
[05:38] <BrendanM> Smoenux, amarok has visualization?
[05:39] <smoenux> not really sure lol
[05:39] <smoenux> I remember seeing a option to enable visualizations... but it didn't work for me
[05:39] <smoenux> so I just left it there, and never touched it again :P
[05:40] <BrendanM> ProjectM was the only Linux visualizer I ever found. And it's awesome-looking (it's Milkdrop reimplemented) but unstable.
[05:40] <echosystm> is 6.10 any more stable than 7.04 ?
[05:40] <BrendanM> is 7.04 unstable for you?
[05:40] <pawan> how to install projectm
[05:40] <Falstius> even rythmbox has visualizations.
[05:40] <BrendanM> pawan, I had to compile it from a source release.
[05:40] <pawan> but no equilizer
[05:41] <Ademan> is there a channel for openwrt?
[05:41] <BrendanM> Falstius, are we talking "visualization" or a "visualizer"
[05:41] <pawan> visualization
[05:41] <BrendanM> because I think he's looking for more than just like a bouncing line or something
[05:41] <echosystm> just wondeirng which one to install
[05:41] <echosystm> anyway
[05:41] <Falstius> BrendanM: which is which?
[05:41] <echosystm> the dvd release... is it an alternate or normal install?
[05:42] <DaniloCesar> How can I change boot options before Ubuntu install (on grub screen yet)
[05:42] <DaniloCesar> ?
[05:42] <BrendanM> Falstius, to me, "visualizer" implies something on the level of milkdrop, or the iTunes visualizer. With lots of different full-screen patterns
[05:43] <dissection> nickrud: I just tried easytag and embedded an MP3 into the file. It showed up in amarok with no problem. If I send this file to someone else, he can see the picture too?
[05:43] <nickrud> dissection, yes
[05:43] <Falstius> BrendanM: to me it implies some kind of fourier transform.  I meant visualization.  A full screen of pretty swirly colors.  It is fairly basic, I know xmms has more options.
[05:43] <nickrud> dissection, as long as his client is capable of reading the image
[05:44] <bluesmoon> jcole?
[05:44] <bluesmoon> jeremy cole?
[05:44] <BrendanM> Falstius, the default options on XMMS for me were either "scope" or "peaks". Neither one was very impressive.
[05:44] <BrendanM> maybe I've got an old version of XMMS
[05:45] <jcole> bluesmoon: nah
[05:45] <bluesmoon> ah, okay
[05:45] <Falstius> BrendanM: xmms-blursk, xmms-bumpscope, xmms-goom, xmms-iris, xmms-jess, xmms-synaesthesia are just a few of the visualization plugins in apt.
[05:45] <UND3RDOG> hola
[05:47] <Civik> Anyone tell me why in Grub> when i type root (hd0,0) i get disk doesnt exist
[05:47] <Tnax> does anyone know if and how to make it possible to play.amr files?
[05:47] <daning> mplay i think
[05:47] <pawan> i downloaded projectm
[05:47] <pawan> but how to install it for amarok
[05:48] <BrendanM> So does anyone have any idea why I can't reach my samba server by name (only IP)?
[05:48] <dr_willis> BrendanM,  puts its name/ip in the hosts file perhaps.
[05:49] <Dezine> anyone know of a good program for managing posting to a blog? ie to a wordpress blog, I used to use blogdesk on windows.
[05:49] <Phrozen_One> what methods are there to mount a partition for a non-priviledged user, is FUSE the only method?
[05:49] <BrendanM> dr_wills, thanks, I'm actually on a big campus network which uses a WINS server for name resolution, so I'd like to be able to reach it from any machine on campus
[05:49] <BrendanM> I need to get it to identify itself to WINS somehow
[05:50] <RudyValencia> hi, how do I turn off IPv6?
[05:50] <RudyValencia> (in Ubuntu Feisty)
[05:50] <RudyValencia> ubotu: ipv6
[05:50] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:51] <Falstius> Tnax: looks like there is something called 3gpp ... you'd probably need to convert them to mp3 to really play though.
[05:51] <dr_willis> BrendanM,  thats over my head doing it that way. :) Thers the 'samba-doc' packages with books detailing that more powerfull stuff. :)
[05:51] <Dezine> I think I found one :)
[05:51] <Falstius> Phrozen_One: if you include the 'user' option in fstab for that partition a user can mount it.
[05:51] <pawan> robofrom for ubuntu
[05:52] <Phrozen_One> Falstius, r\w?
[05:52] <Tnax> falstius: okej, ill look it up, know of any converter program that is kapable of making that?
[05:52] <Falstius> Phrozen_One: yes, assuming linux has rw support for it.
[05:52] <marx2k> Question: Is there a utility for NVidia cards that will expand/shrink the DVI-out for an HDTV screen? It's a feature available in the NVidia control Panel for XP - This has to do with an overscan issue
[05:52] <BrendanM> dr_wills, I've looked at some of those samba-docs. They're brutal. Bleh. I guess I'll go back to searching forums.
[05:53] <Falstius> Tnax: google gives me this http://www.aquarionics.com/article/name/How_to_convert_AMR_files_to_MP3
[05:53] <Civik> Anyone tell me why in Grub> when i type root (hd0,0) i get disk doesnt exist
[05:53] <dr_willis> BrendanM,  read them. play with samba. read them again. :) thats how i learned it ages ago.
[05:53] <themacinjosh> hey i am getting an error while trying to install compiz-fusion on this system, i went to this site: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488385 and followed the steps exactly
[05:53] <themacinjosh> and at the very end i get an error
[05:53] <themacinjosh> help would be much appreciated :)
[05:53] <Tnax> falstius: oki, ill look into it, tnx for the help
[05:54] <Phrozen_One> Falstius, my issue prior was just NTFS permission issues, but I beleive thats not a mounting problem, rather the NTFS linux default support
[05:55] <Falstius> !ntfs3g | phrozen_one
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <dr_willis> Linux can read/write to ntfs using that ntfs-3g stuff..
[05:55] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[05:55] <Phrozen_One> Falstius, I beleive Linux is only capable of mounting read only with root being default owner
[05:55] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:55] <rolfen> my automount is all messed up
[05:55] <Falstius> thanks dr_willis.
[05:55] <dr_willis> rolfen,  you broke it. :)
[05:55] <Falstius> Phrozen_One: you want ntfs-3g.
[05:55] <Phrozen_One> Falstius, familiar with it, but I was trying to use the default kernel driver for ntfs I beleive
[05:56] <dr_willis> If writubng to ntfs , I really DO think its best to use ntfs-3g
[05:56] <Phrozen_One> Falstius, I beleive the kernel driver mounts NTFS as owned by root, and only read only
[05:56] <kravlin> is there a debian package for frets on fire?
[05:56] <Falstius> Phrozen_One: that doesn't have RW support.  ntfs-3g does.  And it is extremely easy to use.
[05:56] <rolfen> dr_willis: did not! it was working a couple of days ago... didnt do anything that could break it
[05:56] <dr_willis> rolfen,  :) it was the dog! he did it! :)
[05:56] <dr_willis> rolfen,  my wife never belives that when i tell her either.. :)
[05:57] <Falstius> my wife blames stuff on me when I'm not even there :(
[05:57] <Phrozen_One> Falstius, as I said I'm familiar with it, but this NTFS issue led me to thinking about how to give users access to certain partitions, thus my primary question. Althought I do appreciate your help.
[05:57] <rolfen> seriously though, linux behaves bizarrely sometimes
[05:57] <dr_willis> rolfen,  given the totally bazzare things ive seen under windows.. I find linux very logical.
[05:57] <rolfen> dr_willis:  like for example sometimes my machine will hang while shutting down, sometimes it wont...
[05:57] <dr_willis> rolfen,  its all these Idiotic 'user friendly' addons that mess things up. :)
[05:58] <rolfen> dr_willis: i fully agree, things were more predictable under bash
[05:58] <dr_willis> rolfen,  thats a classic apci/bios not following the standard   type thing.
[05:58] <Falstius> Phrozen_One: so what is the problem?  If a user mounts a partition that doesn't support permissions, like vfat or ntfs, files will be owned by them unless you configure fstab otherwise.
[05:58] <pawan> any passcard software for ubuntu
[05:58] <kravlin> is there a debian package for frets on fire? If not can anyone help me install it?
[05:58] <rolfen> but i need something fancy for my desktop
[05:58] <dr_willis> !find frets
[05:58] <ubotu> File frets found in r-cran-boot
[05:58] <CVD> its there away to know why i cant do anithing with opera?
[05:58] <marx2k> Question: Is there a utility for NVidia cards that will expand/shrink the DVI-out for an HDTV screen? It's a feature available in the NVidia control Panel for XP - This has to do with an overscan issue
[05:59] <themacinjosh> is there ANY way to make beryl or compiz-fusion work with ATI cards?
[05:59] <Falstius> marx2k: have you played with nvidia-settings ?
[05:59] <dr_willis> marx2k, check the nvidia readme/docs they got all sorts of settings/options in there they mention.
[05:59] <marx2k> Falstius, yes. but unfortunately it doesnt have the capability to do it. I lower the resolution and the hdtv still overscans :(
[06:00] <marx2k> dr willis: Ive been through those docs but they dont really mention anything regarding overscanning
[06:00] <dr_willis> marx2k,  the #mythtv guys MIGHT have some info on it. :) if they are awake.
[06:00] <Falstius> marx2k: I thought there was an overscan option in that program ...
[06:00] <marx2k> Falstius, nope
[06:01] <marx2k> dr willis, ill try it
[06:01] <bathat> if i ran testdisk yesterday and it was able to pick up all the partitions and, then, today, when i ran it again... nothing--what could cause that?
[06:01] <bathat> i did nothing in between yesterday and today
[06:01] <kravlin> is there a debian package for frets on fire? If not can anyone help me install it?
[06:02] <bathat> i'm completely confused by the whole matter
[06:02] <CVD> Opera work ?
[06:02] <Silkenshadow> hello?
[06:02] <rolfen> Mounting /media/sda1 failed.$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[06:02] <Pie-rate> is there any way to have an APT repository on a local server that stays synced with the official repositories? basically a clone of them?
[06:03] <echosystm> guys i get acpi errors when i boot up
[06:03] <echosystm> what key do i hold down to get to boot options?
[06:03] <echosystm> im gonna try acpi=off
[06:03] <dr_willis> kravlin,  none in the repos it seems.
[06:03] <mzanfardino> what is the command to rebuild the grub menu?
[06:03] <dr_willis> echosystm,  hit the escape key. or edit the grub menu to always show the menu
[06:03] <kravlin> dr_willis. agreed. But i don't know how to make it install though
[06:03] <dr_willis> update-grub  -> for the grub stuff
[06:03] <kravlin> I'm a noob to installing stuff without the repository.
[06:04] <mzanfardino> dr_willis: thanks
[06:04] <dr_willis> kravlin,  use source, or perhaps look at the autopackage site, or the klik site.
[06:05] <kravlin> dr_willis. I have the source. But i'm not sure where to take it from there.
[06:05] <dr_willis> kravlin,   time to learn the basics Im guessing. install the build-essential package for a start. then read the codes readme/install docs.
[06:06] <Keenen> Is there any good games for ubuntu :D
[06:06] <dr_willis> Keenen,  oodles of good games out there.
[06:06] <nickrud> Pie-rate, check out apt-mirror
[06:06] <Keenen> :)
[06:06] <dr_willis> of course your GOOD may not be my GOOD.
[06:06] <Pie-rate> nickrud: way ahead of ya
[06:06] <kravlin> dr_willis. Yeah. its been a long time coming. I've been using guides to installing things not in the repository instead of actually learning how to do it.
[06:07] <dr_willis> FreeCol just had a  new version released.. been playing that all day
[06:07] <nickrud> Pie-rate, catch me ;)
[06:08] <dr_willis> For those Old timers in here that Rember Sid Meiers' Colonization game.  FreeCol is a  Clone/Impoved version. :) worth checking out.
[06:08] <marx2k> Does anyone have a link to a decent USB PS2 or XBOX to PC joypad converter that works with Linux?
[06:08] <rolfen> so if you did not shut down windows properly then you cannot access your NTFS volume from linux
[06:08] <rolfen> i'm learning new annoying things every day
[06:08] <CVD> "default keyring"?
[06:08] <dr_willis> marx2k,  the few ive tried are not 'decent' even under windows.. :) sadly
[06:09] <dr_willis> rolfen,  cant say that ive noticed that.. but then again. i try to shut down windows properly.
[06:09] <rolfen> hey good news is... my automount is not messed up after all
[06:09] <Falstius> marx2k: I have a very nice gamepad with all of the ps2 buttons.  It is even wireless.
[06:09] <marx2k> dr willis: I have one for Windows tha is decent from Lik Sang, but when I plug it to the PC under linux, linux freezes completely and needs a hard reboot
[06:09] <dr_willis> rolfen,  Ive accessed 'bad' ntfs partitions befor to rescue files from them.
[06:09] <Pie-rate> isn't there a metapackage that should be used to install linux-restricted-modules?
[06:09] <rolfen> dr_willis: i try... when possible :-)
[06:09] <dr_willis> marx2k,  ouchies.
[06:09] <marx2k> falstius: I was hoping for a converter since I have like 4 or 5 PS2 joypads already :)
[06:09] <CVD> what i gonna miss if i install debian right-now?
[06:09] <rolfen> dr_willis: i'm using ntfs-3g must be because of that
[06:09] <dr_willis> marx2k,  i saw one at walmart the other day for $9 was going to try. but i got so many PC gamepads tha are ps2 clones.. i dont need them  any more
[06:10] <dr_willis> rolfen,  well to be safe.. i could see it doing that.
[06:10] <marx2k> dr_willis: Im gonna have to look online and find something good
[06:10] <marx2k> Ive found a few but none that connect more than one at a time
[06:11] <Falstius> I have a gameport to usb adapter for a MS sidewinder.  Got it at a garage sale hoping it would work with a gamepad, but no :(
[06:11] <marx2k> :(
[06:11] <daerid> anybody know if you can edit the Vista BCD store from within Ubuntu?
[06:11] <marx2k> yeah, linux needs a little work on the gamepad driver side
[06:11] <dr_willis> Falstius,  a normal gamepad to usb? i think the MS one is specific for the MS sidewinder. :) i got a few of those also.
[06:12] <dr_willis> Falstius,  radio shack used to sell a genric  gamepad to usb adaptor ages ago.
[06:12] <Falstius> dr_willis: it is :(  ohwell, I only paid a quarter for it and I got the gamepad for free.
[06:12] <MrGreencastle> I have a problem with K3B
[06:12] <dr_willis> Falstius,  some sound cards still have the old ports.. :)
[06:12] <MrGreencastle> it tells me it can't do mp3 burning
[06:12] <MrGreencastle> so
[06:12] <jlulian38_> I've got this new USB Audio device, and I've got the test noise working in the audio configuration window, but all the noise is still defaulting to the PC Sound card
[06:12] <dr_willis> MrGreencastle,  install the proper packages - and it can.. i forget their name..
[06:13] <jlulian38_> any idea how I can fix that?
[06:13] <MrGreencastle> sudo aptitude install libk3b2-mp3
[06:13] <Falstius> dr_willis: yeah, but not on the computer I want to use it on.  I have 2 usb ones also, I'm not really lacking :)
[06:13] <MrGreencastle> but it gives me an error
[06:13] <echosystm> guys, the ubuntu partitioner, when you type in "20gb" it will put 20x1000mb
[06:13] <dr_willis> Falstius,  i started cleaning the back foom.. i got a huge box of controllers.. :)
[06:13] <echosystm> isnt 20gb 20x1024mb ?
[06:13] <MrGreencastle> Could not resolve 'ca.archive.ubuntu.com'
[06:13] <MrGreencastle> E: Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/k3b/libk3b2-mp3_1.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb: Could not resolve 'ca.archive.ubuntu.com'
[06:13] <dr_willis> echosystm,  depends on who you ask. :)
[06:13] <echosystm> lo
[06:13] <Pie-rate> when is apt-get's cache cleared? if i apt-get -d install things will they stay downloaded forever?
[06:13] <echosystm> l
[06:13] <Flannel> echosystm: youve run into the 'giga' vs 'gibi' debate
[06:13] <dr_willis> MB vs MiB i think :)
[06:13] <daerid> so no takers, eh?
[06:13] <Flannel> echosystm: if you GiB it'll do 1024
[06:14] <Aresilek> How do I manage my wireless network profiles?
[06:14] <echosystm> right
[06:14] <Falstius> dr_willis: no marketing material actually uses those terms though.
[06:14] <Civik> How do i know what HD_,_ to set my root too???
[06:14] <echosystm> so if i did 20gib, when i go into linux and look at the hard drives
[06:14] <marx2k> Civik: 0,0 typically
[06:14] <echosystm> it should say useable space 20gb?
[06:14] <Cypher10> Will the new ubuntu be bigger them 700 mb?
[06:14] <Falstius> Civik: look at /boot/grub/device.map
[06:14] <Civik> marx2k, says it doesnt exist : /
[06:14] <Cypher10> then*
[06:15] <echosystm> as opposed to 19.something if i did "20gb"?
[06:15] <Cypher10> Will the new ubuntu be bigger then 700 mb? when it comes out to the public
[06:15] <dr_willis> Cypher10,  i would doubt it.  they try hard to keep it on 1 cd.
[06:15] <Flannel> Cypher10: It will always fit on a new 700mb CD
[06:15] <Cypher10> kk
[06:15] <pawan> hi
[06:16] <mikubuntu> hey guys, i've looked everywhere i could think to look and can't find a place to browse like, all the software titles and descriptions that are available for linux/ubuntu ... any suggestions?
[06:16] <pawan> how to install realtek sound card drivers for ubuntu
[06:16] <Cypher10> How long will it take to get a request CD?
[06:16] <marx2k> !realtek
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realtek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <Falstius> mikubuntu: synaptic is fairly convenient for that ... It is in the system->administration menu
[06:17] <Civik> Falstius, whats the command for the device.map? and do i have to be in grub or the normal terminal thing?
[06:17] <stinger_au> yo
[06:17] <Falstius> Civik: it is a file, you can just look at it with cat, as in cat /boot/grub/device.map
[06:17] <Cypher10> How long will it take to get a request CD? 30 day shipping or less?
[06:17] <stinger_au> i have my char set to UTF-8 but i still can't see circles ? i just get differnt types of boxes
[06:17] <Aresilek> How do I manage my wireless network profiles?
[06:17] <marx2k> Cypher: why not just download/burn?
[06:18] <Civik> Falstius, it says no such file or directory
[06:18] <Falstius> Civik: are you on a liveCD?
[06:18] <root__> where can i get os x86 on pc irc channel
[06:18] <root__> i have a grub problem
[06:18] <Cypher10> I like to have a cool looking disk ^_^
[06:18] <mikubuntu> Falstius: but doesn't synaptic only have the titles that are actually preloaded to ubuntu?  somewhere i heard that there are like 30000 titles potentially compatible with the system, even if they are not 'officially' supported
[06:18] <Civik> yeh but im trying to configure my grub because when i bootup all i get is the word GRUB and nothing else
[06:19] <Falstius> mikubuntu: ahh .. yeah I suppose so.  That would be a lot of reading.
[06:19] <Pie-rate> ok. i have a problem with xorg, i want to be able to move my external hard drive between systems and have it just work without manually resetting the xorg.conf. is there a command i could put in an init script that would reconfigure the xorg config like it would be if ubuntu was freshly installed on the system, with no user input? i know there's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but that requires a lot of input.
[06:19] <Falstius> Civik: did you chroot to the installed linux?
[06:20] <craigbass1976> Is anyone else having trouble using OpenOffice with files mounted up as nfs (the files are being shared out from another box)
[06:20] <Civik> Falstius, dont think so lol, refresh my mind on how to do that (im new to linux)
[06:20] <CVD> what gonna hapend if i nstall debian right-now?
[06:20] <lashmoov2> no sound in alien arena 2007 ?
[06:21] <craigbass1976> When I finally get a file open, it's read only, even though permissions are 622
[06:21] <Falstius> Civik: I don't remember the 'proper' way to do a grub install, but I always mount my harddrive to something like /media/root and then sudo chroot /media/root
[06:21] <fevel> hey guys...how do I install flash plugin for firefox in feisty 64?
[06:21] <craigbass1976> or 722.  User has write anyway...
[06:21] <Aresilek> can i use wirless and a wired networks at the same time in kubuntu?
[06:21] <Falstius> Civik: and then run grub install from the chroot (you can also check the boot/grub/menu.1st on the harddrive to found out the mapping)
[06:21] <Wahyudinata> ouw kay.....how do i make my wireless card work?......
[06:21] <Civik> so i do sudo chroot _____  what do i put in the blank?
[06:21] <mikubuntu> Falstius: and/or anyone; also i have not been able to get my screen resolution up to snuff, still only 600 x 800... i guess i have to know what type of vid card i have but don't know where to find out, it's a dell latitude 600 laptop... anyone with the same equipment that might be able to help me?
[06:22] <nivekc1> what is a good program i can use to make an iso from a disc
[06:22] <Civik> Falstius,  so i do sudo chroot _____  what do i put in the blank?
[06:22] <Cypher10> How do i get a cool Ubuntu disk they look very cool :D
[06:22] <Falstius> mikubuntu: I have a D600 and I believe it 'just worked'
[06:22] <Cypher10> I have the OS but i like to have a cool CD with a ubuntu cover
[06:22] <tetonca> grub-install --recheck --root_directory=. or somesuch.
[06:23] <Falstius> Civik: the directory you mounted your installed root partition to.  So for me, I would do sudo mkdir /media/root && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/root    ... then sudo chroot /media/root
[06:23] <marx2k> mikubuntu, use 'dmesg | less' and scan through there for mention of your vidcard
[06:23] <Civik> Falstius, How do i find out where i did it : / i didnt mess around with any settings so is there like a default one?
[06:24] <james296> can anyone tell me how to possibly change the system upgrade icon in Synaptic in Feisty Fawn?
[06:24] <Falstius> mikubuntu: but regardless, you can just modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf and include whatever resolution you want.
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> mikubuntu: Is that a C600 or D600
[06:24] <marx2k> try 'dmesg | grep agp'
[06:24] <Falstius> Civik: I think you go to places -> filesystem it will list the different partitions available to you.  Just click through them till you find the one with boot, bin, usr, etc
[06:25] <tetonca> james I think the themes are in /usr/share/gtk or somesuch.  Look for 'circle' in the output of 'cd / ; find . | grep ircle'.
[06:25] <nickrud> fevel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash , look for the amd64 section
[06:25] <Junecy> Hello is there modem drivers/support for Gateway 7330GZ with Ubuntu 7.0.4?
[06:25] <james296> well?
[06:25] <mikubuntu> jack_sparrow: D600 jack
[06:25] <Cypher10> Where can i order 100 cd copys of ubuntu?
[06:26] <taxman> hi all, is here an easy way to set up NAT basically for internet connection sharing? I want to share the connection this computer has and serve out dhcp to my laptop
[06:26] <Cypher10> Where can i order 100 cd copys of ubuntu? so i can hand them out
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> mikubuntu: Mine are both C just thought you needed to clarify that.. probably ati...
[06:26] <Falstius> !grub | civik did you follow those instructions?
[06:26] <ubotu> civik did you follow those instructions?: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:26] <Cypher10> Where can i order 100 cd copys of ubuntu? so i can hand them out
[06:26] <rolfen> taxman: yes, use firestarter
[06:26] <mikubuntu> Falstius:  how do i : modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[06:26] <taxman> rolfen: ok I'll install it, it is as easy as that?
[06:27] <floppyears> hi
[06:27] <floppyears> I have a macbook and a dual boot with mac os x
[06:27] <marx2k> rolfen: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:27] <Cypher10> Where can i order 100 cd copys of ubuntu? so i can hand them out????
[06:27] <rolfen> taxman: yeah there's a wizard you can launch in firestarter and it will ask you if you want to share your connection and do all the settings for you
[06:27] <rolfen> marx2k: that was not for me i think :)
[06:27] <floppyears> but now I want to get rid of ubuntu
[06:27] <marx2k> I meant mikubuntu
[06:27] <marx2k> :)
[06:27] <floppyears> can anybody help me with that ?
[06:27] <Falstius> mikubuntu: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, look for lines like -- Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480", and add the resolutions you want.  Add it to all of the modes lines to be sure (or just the one under Depth 24)
[06:28] <taxman> rolfen: excellent. Thanks, I need the quick and dirty at the moment :)
[06:28] <rolfen> np:)
[06:28] <Falstius> !res | mikubuntu
[06:28] <ubotu> mikubuntu: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:28] <james296> hello? has anyone seen my question?
[06:28] <mikubuntu> jack_sparrow:  thanks guys, i'll keep working on it
[06:29] <Cypher10> james296: what u need help on?
[06:29] <Civik> Falstius, no i didnt follow those
[06:29] <Falstius> james296: just reask after 10 minutes.
[06:29] <Falstius> Civik: that would probably be a really good place to start.
[06:29] <floppyears> anybody who can help me removing ubuntu from macbook ?
[06:29] <james296>  can anyone tell me how to possibly change the system upgrade icon in Synaptic in Feisty Fawn?
[06:29] <MrGreencastle> How can I change the theme for amarok to match my gtk theme?
[06:29] <marx2k> floppy: just format the partition
[06:29] <Falstius> floppyears: most people here are ubuntu advocates, more into helping to install it than remove it ;)
[06:30] <damejiar> MrGreencastle: install the gtk-qt-engine
[06:30] <MrGreencastle> thanks
[06:30] <nicholaspaul> Q: I've got a networking/wifi problem. I can see Ubuntu in my router setup, but when I type 'ping ....' from ubuntu, it says From ...the wrong address. how do i fix that?
[06:30] <rolfen> taxman: but i firestarter will not setup a dhcp server, it will only set up NAT
[06:30] <roachmmflhyr> I'm having trouble accessing phpmyadmin from outside my LAN......my port is opened I just don't know what the deal is
[06:30] <floppyears> Falstius: I'm removing it because I'm going to install it afterwards using vmware :)
[06:30] <damejiar> MrGreencastle: sudo apt-get install gtk-qt-engine
[06:31] <Toma-> Anyone tried installing flashplugin-nonfree lately?
[06:31] <marx2k> nicholaspaul, what do you mean wrong address?
[06:31] <MrGreencastle> damejiar: got it already, I love Ubuntu support, especially IRC
[06:31] <james296> no response?
[06:31] <MrGreencastle> damejiar: thanks a bunch :-D
[06:31] <Falstius> floppyears: the vmware part I could help with.  I don't know much of any thing about OSX though.
[06:31] <damejiar> MrGreencastle : you're welcome ;)
[06:31] <nicholaspaul> marx2k, well the router says its 192.168.0.120 and it says From 192.168.0.111 in the ping results.
[06:32] <marx2k> what does ifconfig say?
[06:32] <floppyears> Falstius: installing is easy :)
[06:32] <pawan> any mp3 burning software
[06:32] <floppyears> but removing it has proven to be hard :(
[06:33] <damejiar> MrGreencastle: does it work? if isn't work now, you must to restart X or the system to work fine
[06:33] <nicholaspaul> marx2k ath0 says 120, but wifi0 says 111
[06:33] <Falstius> floppyears: the safest is certainly to backup your data and reinstall.  You'd have to resize an hpfs partition otherwise and I have no idea if that is possible.
[06:33] <nicholaspaul> marx2k I only have one wifi adapter in there
[06:33] <marx2k> nicholaspaul, I have never used wifi0
[06:33] <marx2k> ath0 is usually the wifi adapter
[06:33] <nicholaspaul> marx2k um what is wifi0?
[06:33] <Falstius> pawan: serpentine is the basic package.
[06:33] <floppyears> Falstius: yeah :(
[06:33] <marx2k> Im not even sure
[06:33] <roachmmflhyr> I think my problem lies somewhere between me(port is allowed in firestarter), my router(port is forwarded), wireless ethernet adapter, and my ISP(my isp has opened my port for me) I cant access my apache server outside my LAN
[06:33] <MrGreencastle> damejiar: Haven't installed Amarok just yet, am now. I was using exaile in its place, but its just not the same
[06:33] <nicholaspaul> doh!
[06:34] <pawan> i want to burn mp3 files
[06:34] <damejiar> ok\
[06:34] <pawan> and not wav files
[06:34] <pawan> to play in a mp3 player
[06:34] <marx2k> I wonder if wifi0 is an internal loop
[06:35] <buzzy> I am having trouble enabling wifi on my lenovo R60 laptop
[06:35] <Falstius> pawan: burn to a CD?  just open up a CD writer window and copy the mp3 files.  When you insert a blank CD it should ask if you want to make a data cd.
[06:35] <CVD> q pasa aqui?
[06:35] <nicholaspaul> marx2k  weird. Well, should my own host name appear in 'Hosts' in Network settings?
[06:35] <pawan> should i select data cd
[06:35] <Civik> Falstius, can i talk to you in a pm?
[06:35] <Falstius> pawan: yes
[06:35] <pawan> ok
[06:35] <Falstius> Civik: it is better to ask in the channel.  It is fairly quiet now :)
[06:35] <marx2k> nicho: I believe thats how mine is set up
[06:35] <DShepherd> happy birthday BirthdayHobbsee
[06:36] <BirthdayHobbsee> thanks DShepherd :D
[06:36] <Falstius> Civik: and I might disappear soon.
[06:36] <DShepherd> BirthdayHobbsee, np
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> marx2k oh i see.
[06:36] <sport> anyone want to help me understand DNS and domains? you have to buy a domain. do you buy your DNS or do you just set your dns to your domain at say a router or server?
[06:37] <Civik> ok welli went into my file browers and in places it says ubuntu, desktop, file system, and 74.5 GB volume i selected disk and looked in the boot folder and there is a grub folder in there so is that the directory i want?
[06:37] <james296>  can anyone tell me how to possibly change the system upgrade icon in Synaptic in Feisty Fawn?
[06:37] <Falstius> sport: when you buy a domain you'll assign an IP address to it.  Or you can use a service like dyndns.  you don't buy a 'DNS' though.
[06:37] <Cypher10> Is there a ubuntu chan just for chat?
[06:37] <nicholaspaul> sport when you buy your domain, they will help you setup all that.
[06:37] <marx2k> the only thing of interest in the /grub folder is menu.lst
[06:37] <taxman> hmm, firestarter's connection sharing isn't working. It's telling me the device eth1 is not ready. Well that's the local network interface I want to share the connection out on. Why would it need to be ready to start the firewall and connection sharing?
[06:38] <Wahyudinata> how do i access the terminal?..
[06:38] <nicholaspaul> marx2k so any idea why the router sees one address, but when i try to ping it seems to be using wifi0?
[06:38] <DShepherd> Cypher10, yeah #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:38] <taxman> Wahyudinata: applications -> accessories -> terminal
[06:38] <Civik> Falstius, did you see what i said?
[06:38] <Falstius> james296: is it ugly?
[06:38] <james296> yes
[06:38] <sport> falstius, what if you run an ip off a privit server?
[06:38] <Wahyudinata> taxman: gotcha
[06:38] <marx2k> nicholaspaul, I wouldnt know- sorry :/
[06:38] <Cypher10> ok
[06:38] <nicholaspaul> marx2k np thx :)
[06:39] <sport> falstius, what if you run an *website* off a privit server
[06:39] <Falstius> sport look into dyndns if your IP address can change unexpectedly.
[06:39] <roachmmflhyr> anyone use an apache server behind a router that can help me?
[06:39] <nicholaspaul> Any other IP/wifi experts around?
[06:39] <Falstius> Civik: you said you hadn't read the instructions and then asked to PM.  I said you should ask in channel.  Did I miss something?
[06:40] <Civik> Falstius, yeh i said sumthin but i forgot your name infront here it is
[06:40] <Civik> Falstius, ok welli went into my file browers and in places it says ubuntu, desktop, file system, and 74.5 GB volume i selected disk and looked in the boot folder and there is a grub folder in there so is that the directory i want?
[06:40] <Falstius> Civik: which one is disk?  You mean 74.5GB volume?
[06:41] <nivekc1> what is the exact path to my cd rom drive
[06:41] <Civik> no the 74.6 GB volume is my windows install
[06:41] <ripp3r> nivekc1 /dev/cdrom
[06:41] <ripp3r> nivekc1 or /dev/hdc
[06:41] <ripp3r> or some shit
[06:42] <Civik> Falstius, under places it says exacly what i said in that list order "Ubuntu, Desktop, File System, disk, 74.5 GB Volume" in that order
[06:42] <james296>  can anyone tell me how to possibly change the system upgrade icon in Synaptic in Feisty Fawn?
[06:42] <TheManiacKY> I know this is the wrong channel but no on is in the Astaro channel.. Which file might the have where I assign mac addresses to the ethernet adapters in linux?
[06:42] <CVD> no hay nadie
[06:42] <TheManiacKY> As in define this nic is eth1 this nic is eth2
[06:42] <Falstius> Civik: disk is probably correct.  You can check by looking at the output of "mount" and see if it matches your harddrive (something like /dev/sda?)
[06:43] <Civik> Falstius, if i selec the disk option and go into the boot folder there is a grub folder inside of it
[06:43] <Falstius> Civik: yeah, sounds right  (but there is the same on the CD, so you should make sure it is a harddrive)
[06:43] <BaD_CrC> mu mu ubuntu
[06:44] <Civik> Falstius, how?
[06:44] <Falstius> Civik: in a terminal, type mount | grep /media/disk
[06:45] <blind> hey, I picked up a Wacom ET-0405-R tablet. I checked the forums, and someone said the "ET-0405" works perfectly, just plug and play, however, I just plugged mine in, and uncommented the input sections for wacom, restarted X, and it's not working. how can I get it to work?
[06:45] <BaD_CrC> i'm so happy. the hard drive in my win98se box finally died today.
[06:45] <programme1> is there something that will let me play .ogg files from the command line?  im thinking something like mpg123...
[06:45] <dr_willis> ogg123 i think
[06:45] <dr_willis> !find ogg
[06:45] <Samurai> can someone help me? my feisty fawn will not install itself b/c it gets an error when it tries to create a new partition. any ideas?
[06:45] <ubotu> Found: libcommons-logging-java, libogg-dev, libogg0, liboggflac++-dev, liboggflac++2c2 (and 33 others)
[06:45] <dr_willis> !find ogg123
[06:45] <damejiar> programme1: had you try mplayer?
[06:45] <itro> alguien habla espanol?
[06:45] <programme1> i dug around for ogg123, i thought.. lemme look...
[06:46] <ubotu> File ogg123 found in vorbis-tools
[06:46] <BaD_CrC> ogg123 <file>
[06:46] <programme1> ahh thanks...
[06:46] <Civik> Falstius, /dev/sda1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) is what it says when i do what you said to do
[06:46] <damejiar> itro : I do
[06:46] <RAOF> !es > itro
[06:46] <Pie-rate> how does ubuntu's installer generate an xorg.conf file, and how can i generate an xorg.conf file with no user input?
[06:46] <Falstius> programme1: maybe music123
[06:46] <itro> esque en ubuntu-es no saben contestarme
[06:46] <Falstius> Civik: that looks perfect.
[06:46] <itro> quiero desinstalar un driver  que instale con ndiswrapper
[06:47] <damejiar> itro: but I recommendo you to go to #ubuntu-es
[06:47] <damejiar> itro,: I am there ;)
[06:47] <itro> en ubuntu-es no saben
[06:47] <programme1> ogg123 sounds like a winner.. im dl'ng it now.. (im on dial-up .. grr...)
[06:47] <Civik> Falstius, so now what?
[06:47] <slavik> tengo un pene muy grande :D
[06:47] <itro> ya les pregunte y no saben
[06:47] <boyam> TheManiacKY: ifconfig will do what you want.  Check man ifconfig for syntax
[06:48] <damejiar> itro: de aqui nos pueden kickear por eso
[06:48] <itro> mm
[06:48] <jkthecjer> hello everyone
[06:48] <jkthecjer> anyone up for game testing?
[06:48] <Falstius> Civik: you can follow the instructions ubotu linked too .. they're more simple  than what I'd do :)
[06:48] <BaD_CrC> is it common for the trash icon in the lower right corner to stop working?
[06:48] <gerro> jkthecjer: eh?
[06:48] <Falstius> !grub | civik
[06:48] <ubotu> civik: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:49] <HellDragon> Greatmetal: lol
[06:49] <Pie-rate> yeah, i'm going to accept a file named "STARTKEYLOGGER!!"
[06:49] <blind> Can someone help me get a Wacom ET-0405-R tablet working?
[06:49] <Flannel> !ops
[06:49] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:49] <BaD_CrC> stupid
[06:49] <Pie-rate> could you be ANY MORE OBVIOUS?
[06:49] <slavik> ooh, fin
[06:49] <jkthecjer> fuck it
[06:49] <jkthecjer> damn splits
[06:49] <slavik> /ignore greatmetal
[06:49] <BaD_CrC> it's not a split
[06:50] <Samurai> KICK Greatmetal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:50] <jinx099> Greatmetal: wtf
[06:50] <lightrush> Greatmetal:
[06:50] <ccherrett> what is with Greatmetal?
[06:50] <lightrush> KICK BAN
[06:50] <LadyNikon> !op
[06:50] <ianmcorvidae> Ignore it.
[06:50] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:50] <Greatmetal> hax?
[06:50] <lightrush> kick ban [;x
[06:50] <LadyNikon> oh for goddess sake
[06:50] <Pie-rate> !ops
[06:50] <jkthecjer> skiddie
[06:50] <DeepBlade> /ignore Greatmetal
[06:50] <Greatmetal> thank you :P
[06:50] <juano__> !help Greatmetal wants to send you startkeylogger (U
[06:50] <Pie-rate> ubotu got owned?
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about got owned? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <Samurai> hope ur runnin linux right now this guy is a haxor
[06:50] <Pie-rate> !ops
[06:50] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:50] <vas> yes
[06:50] <vas> very owned
[06:50] <LadyNikon> seriousl people fix your routers.. its nto that hard.
[06:51] <programme1> /ignore Greatmetal
[06:51] <Samurai> AHH KEYLOGGER!!!!!!!!
[06:51] <juano__> Greatmetal: someone get this guy outa here!
[06:51] <BirthdayHobbsee> !staff
[06:51] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[06:51] <Falstius> why doesn't gaim support /ignore ...
 hope ur runnin linux right now this guy is a haxor , ahahahahahahhahahahah
[06:51] <jkthecjer> hmm, what a dick
[06:51] <DeepBlade> i guess this means I won't be able to ask my ubuntu question for a while
[06:51] <LadyNikon> BirthdayHobbsee: can you join the staffers channel? if one
[06:51] <Malegnis> hey guys, i have a question.
[06:51] <LadyNikon> DeepBlade: got forums
[06:51] <slavik> happy bday hobbs
[06:52] <ccherrett> what just happened?
[06:52] <BirthdayHobbsee> thanks slavik
[06:52] <DeepBlade> no one is answering my question in the forums =(
[06:52] <slavik> how old are you know? you old fart? :P
[06:52] <LadyNikon> DeepBlade: whoops
[06:52] <jkthecjer> some douche ran a script he found on the net
[06:52] <LadyNikon> Falstius: get a rael client like irssi :D
[06:52] <DeepBlade> and my impression is that someone must know what's wrong..
[06:52] <ianmcorvidae> Or at least xchat.
[06:52] <ccherrett> jkthecjer: what did the script do?
[06:52] <BirthdayHobbsee> Falstius: because they're noticing the channel
[06:52] <juano__> /ignore Greatmetal
[06:52] <DeepBlade> i am having problems with xdmcp.. i am connectecting to my ubuntu machine from Mac OSX using X11's 'X', and the keyboard mapping is all messed up.. but the keyboard is fine in the login screen
[06:53] <tofaffy> When I start azureus via terminal, I get an error, want me to put it in pastebin fo rsomeone to see it?
[06:53] <tofaffy> It opens, then it shuts back down.
[06:53] <Malegnis> is there anybody really famillier with MYSQL?
[06:53] <Flannel> !anyone | Malegnis
[06:53] <ubotu> Malegnis: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:53] <jkthecjer> bah, i must sleep
[06:53] <jkthecjer> laters
[06:53] <mongolai> tofaffy, what command are you using?
[06:53] <tofaffy> azureus
[06:54] <mongolai> tofaffy, try azureus &    <-- note the ampersand at the end...
[06:54] <Malegnis> alright well, i want to put an BBS up on my site, and following what bit i could figure out from their documentation, it looks like i have everything all correct
[06:54] <Malegnis> but when i post, i get mysql error messages
[06:54] <tofaffy> If I open it from the ubuntu menu it opens, then clsoes as soon as it gets open, I get the same thign opening it with terminal I get core dump *one sec i'll try that mongolai *
[06:55] <Ramzi> Hello. I have an XP-Ubuntu dual boot. XP isn't detecting my sound card, but Ubuntu is. I want to install the appropriate drivers on XP, but I don't know my soundcard model.
[06:55] <CVD_> a  en/es es/en traductor for ubuntu/
[06:55] <Ramzi> How can I get that information from within Ubuntu?
[06:55] <CVD_> ?
[06:55] <Falstius> tofaffy: you can look at the core with gdb and run a backtrace ;)
[06:55] <nextse7en> Alright, what am I doing wrong, I just dl'ed enemy territory, and now, at the command line, I am trying to execute sudo ./etf.run and I am recieving "sudo ./etf.run invalid command"
[06:55] <tofaffy> Same thign happened, mongolai ...want the error?
[06:55] <mongolai> Ramzi, in a terminal try 'lspci'
[06:55] <tofaffy> Well, I get other errors too.
[06:55] <sauvin> Does ubuntu have the hal-device command?
[06:55] <BaD_CrC> Ramzi: lspci
[06:55] <roachmmflhyr> I think my problem lies somewhere between me(port is allowed in firestarter), my router(port is forwarded), wireless ethernet adapter, and my ISP(my isp has opened my port for me) I cant access my apache server outside my LAN
[06:55] <mongolai> tofaffy, Yea, maybe you should post the pastebin link
[06:56] <sauvin> OK, that's TWO ways to find your card :)
[06:56] <Ramzi> Thank you.
[06:56] <nextse7en> Anyone?
[06:56] <nextse7en> Anyone?
[06:56] <sauvin> What happens if the card isn't pci, though?
[06:56] <nextse7en> Alright, what am I doing wrong, I just dl'ed enemy territory, and now, at the command line, I am trying to execute sudo ./etf.run and I am recieving "sudo ./etf.run invalid command"
[06:56] <n2diy> nextse7en: sudo updatedb, and then try the command.
[06:56] <Malegnis> lspci?
[06:56] <CVD_> how to view all my logs?
[06:56] <nextse7en> kk
[06:56] <Falstius> sauvin: is it usb?
[06:56] <nextse7en> Thankyou
[06:56] <Ramzi>  Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> sauvin, lsusb ?
[06:56] <Ramzi> That is the only thing that says audio.
[06:56] <Sevk> how to view voltage of cpu, like cpu-z
[06:56] <Sevk> how to view voltage of cpu, like cpu-z ?
[06:56] <BaD_CrC> lsusb works well
[06:56] <sauvin> A sound card wouldn't be USB, would it?
[06:57] <nicholaspaul> sauvin could be.
[06:57] <BaD_CrC> yeah, Creative has a couple
[06:57] <Malegnis> could be
[06:57] <mongolai> Ramzi, there you go!
[06:57] <Falstius> sauvin: why not?
[06:57] <slavik> sauvin: could be (I have one)
[06:57] <Ramzi> Danke.
[06:57] <Keith-BlindUser> Hey.
[06:57] <sauvin> Wow.
[06:57] <LadyNikon> greattard is messaging people now.
[06:57] <LadyNikon> yay
[06:57] <Keith-BlindUser> Someone  on this channel just attempted sending mea keylogger.
[06:57] <Keith-BlindUser> From a GrateMeddle nick.
[06:57] <Keith-BlindUser> If you don't stop, I will have to call authorities.
[06:57] <BaD_CrC> LadyNikon: /ignore *!*greatmet@*
[06:57] <Keith-BlindUser> Thanks
[06:57] <tofaffy> mongolai, http://pastebin.com/d276ca7af
[06:57] <LadyNikon> BaD_CrC: meh i dont care.. im not affected.
[06:57] <LadyNikon> i think its funny
[06:58] <nextse7en> What does updateb do?
[06:58] <BaD_CrC> me neither
[06:58] <Civik> Falstius, i cant find what you told me i need to find
[06:58] <LadyNikon> nextse7en: helps your locate
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> LadyNikon, ya me neither... Linux is so good
[06:58] <BaD_CrC> was that a xchat exploit?
[06:58] <BaD_CrC> blah
[06:58] <LadyNikon> no
[06:58] <mongolai> tofaffy, OK, just a sec
[06:58] <LadyNikon> its a router exploit
[06:58] <n2diy> nextse7en: sudo updatedb, updates your local database.
[06:58] <Flannel> Keith-BlindUser: no, they didnt.  They just tried to abuse an overzealous router to get you disconnected.
[06:58] <Flannel> !exploit
[06:58] <LadyNikon> or samantic
[06:58] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[06:58] <Falstius> Civik: have you tried following the instructions here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:58] <BaD_CrC> meh, viva OpenWRT!
[06:59] <Malegnis> can anybody make sense out of this? http://www.wickedsins.net/sqpproblem.jpg
[06:59] <Falstius> Civik: they are more detailed and error free than anything I can pull out of my head.
[06:59] <nomasteryoda> wow
[06:59] <CVD_> logs?
[06:59] <nextse7en> Still "sudo ./etf.run" gives "sudo: ./etf: command not found.
[06:59] <jose> sat
[06:59] <jose> err say
[06:59] <Flannel> nextse7en: are you in the proper directory?
[06:59] <jose> Does anyone know how to find out an AVI file's resolution/aspect ratio from the command line?
[07:00] <nextse7en> Flannel, yes, "ls" shows the file "etf.run"
[07:00] <xdfhd> has anyone had a problem running the disc after you create a bootable cd from the iso file?
[07:00] <CVD_> any know why sometimes when i try to view flash videos firefox shutdown?
[07:00] <nomasteryoda> flash is defective
[07:00] <nomasteryoda> happens to me in windows firefox and here on ubuntu
[07:01] <mongolai> tofaffy, Hmmm. Lemme look again.
[07:01] <tofaffy> okay
[07:01] <tofaffy> do you need the link again, mongolai
[07:01] <Sevk> my englisg is pool ,,, how to view voltage of cpu, like cpu-z ?
[07:01] <mongolai> tofaffy, no...
[07:01] <Sevk> my englisg is pool ,,, how to view the voltage of cpu, like cpu-z ?
[07:01] <nomasteryoda> !sensors
[07:01] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[07:01] <nomasteryoda> try that Sevk
[07:02] <CVD_> view logs command?
[07:02] <nextse7en> Alright, "sudo updateb" done, still trying "./etf.run" recieving "sudo: ./etf: command not found"
[07:02] <cyberphaz> man samba is giving me headacheman samba is a female dog...
[07:02] <cyberphaz> ugh
[07:02] <Sevk> ok
[07:02] <cyberphaz> i cant type anymore
[07:02] <nomasteryoda> lm-sensors good too
[07:02] <Malegnis> can anybody make sense out of this? http://www.wickedsins.net/sqpproblem.jpg
[07:03] <nextse7en> Is the problem that it is ignoring the .run portion of the statement, should I change the file extention?
[07:03] <mongolai> tofaffy, Has azureus worked for you before on this same ubuntu install?
[07:03] <nomasteryoda> nextse7en, chmod +x  "./etf.run"
[07:03] <Civik> Falstius, why cant i unmount ?
[07:03] <nextse7en> K, Ill try it.
[07:03] <nomasteryoda> etf.run
[07:03] <tofaffy> no it hasn't mon
[07:03] <tofaffy> er, mongolai
[07:03] <hachaboob> has anyone had problems with rails with the current version of gutsy?
[07:03] <CVD_> still waiting?
[07:04] <Falstius> Civik: you probably have a terminal open in a directory on that device
[07:04] <CVD_> waiting
[07:04] <nextse7en> woking now, thanks.
[07:04] <Ramzi> Are you sure the thing I pasted is a soundcard?
[07:04] <nomasteryoda> Civik, cd to / or something else
[07:04] <zerokill88> Anyone familiar with PowerTOP?
[07:04] <sauvin> Malegnis, why was that posted as a jpg?
[07:04] <nicholaspaul> Q: I've got a weird prob. My router says ubuntu has an ip ending in 120, but ifconfig says 111.
[07:04] <Ramzi> I'm in Windows now, and in my Device Manager I see a lot of different audio stuff.
[07:04] <Civik> Falstius, it says command not found ?
[07:04] <Malegnis> can anybody make sense out of this? http://www.wickedsins.net/sqpproblem.jpg
[07:04] <hachaboob> i can't browse to http://0.0.0.0:3000, i just get a blank screen. with both webrick and lighttpd on rails 1.2.3 and edge
[07:04] <Falstius> Civik: umount not unmount
[07:04] <Ramzi> I tried to add the sound card in Add New Hardware, but there is no nvidia option
[07:05] <Civik> Falstius,  oj
[07:05] <sauvin> Malegnis, I'm not about to try to read text in a bitmap.
[07:05] <Malegnis> ramzi, just goo on thetr internet and find the DL for you sound card driver
[07:05] <nomasteryoda> Ramzi, you can get the device ID of the "unidientified device in windows
[07:05] <mongolai> tofaffy, That's weird that it's chocking on the language pack... I've never seen that before. Can you pastebin 'sudo azureus'?
[07:05] <Malegnis> well, it only shows up for about .5 seconds
[07:05] <pete83> Malegnis: you silly guy, you saved a BMP file, and renamed it with a jpg ending
[07:05] <Malegnis> and the only way to get it, is to take a screenshot
[07:06] <sauvin> That may be true... if you're running WINDOWS.
[07:06] <Malegnis> how so?
[07:06] <sauvin> I presume that text was dumped to a terminal?
[07:06] <pete83> Malegnis: the error messages mean you're not using Ubuntu
[07:07] <pete83> Malegnis: get rid of windows and try it again
[07:07] <Malegnis> no its an ubuntu server, that i am accessing from my windows machie
[07:07] <lunis> Very easy question: I have Ubuntu installed to a usb drive but I had to install through vmware since I have no working CD drive right now. I'm booted in to it but I need it to redetect all hardware and set everything up thusly, but I'm not UbuntuPro enough to know how to do that :)
[07:07] <echosystm> ARGH
[07:07] <Ramzi> I can't find the drivers for it.
[07:07] <Civik> Falstius, i think im trying to modify all this stuff on the cd and not the actual hard drive : /
[07:07] <echosystm> apt-get update wont update some things
[07:07] <Ramzi> Not even on Nvidia's website
[07:07] <tofaffy> yeah, just a sec mongolai
[07:07] <nicholaspaul> How can i tell which device is which under ifconfig?
[07:07] <mongolai> ok
[07:07] <echosystm> it says packages.gz is missing
[07:07] <echosystm> gives me a 404
[07:07] <echosystm> but i know theyre there
[07:07] <Malegnis> go here, and post some nonsense, you will see that i mean http://www.wickedsins.net/ImgBoard/imgboard.htm
[07:07] <echosystm> :S
[07:07] <sauvin> Malegnis, relaunch that process dumping stdout and stderr to a text file.
[07:07] <pete83> Malegnis: so it sent that text to a terminal?
[07:08] <Falstius> Civik: I looked at the instructions and they seemed reasonable.
[07:08] <MrGreencastle> How do I make KDE apps use my theme?
[07:08] <bobgill> what can I use to convert .ogg to .avi/.mpg ?? ffmpeg doesn't do it
[07:08] <MrGreencastle> someone told me gtk-qt-engine
[07:08] <MrGreencastle> but that does the opposite
[07:08] <tofaffy> mongolai, it starts the config wizard
[07:08] <mongolai> tofaffy, then what happens?
[07:08] <Civik> Falstius, well i think this is trying to do all this stuff on the cd copy of ubuntu for some reason, i dunno what to sudo chroot to get into the copy on the hdd
[07:09] <tofaffy> I go through it, and it starts azureus
[07:09] <mongolai> tofaffy, does it seem to work?!
[07:09] <MrGreencastle> bobgirl: mencoder input_file.ogg -ovc lavc -nosound -o output_file.avi
[07:09] <Falstius> Civik: you don't need to chroot if you follow the instructions in that link.
[07:09] <Ramzi> in googling, I ran across "realtek." That name sounds familiar.
[07:09] <sauvin> Looks to me like a malformed CREATE TABLE command, Malegnis.
[07:09] <tofaffy> yeah, it works
[07:10] <MrGreencastle> bobgill: mencoder input_file.ogg -ovc lavc -nosound -o output_file.avi
[07:10] <Civik> Falstius, what heading am i starting at "'Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader
[07:10] <Malegnis> so is that just a bad command? or do i need to do something in the mysql
[07:10] <MrGreencastle> thats what I use for my screencasts
[07:10] <mongolai> tofaffy, that's not so good. Running a network-connected app with root permissions is a serious security risk.
[07:10] <MrGreencastle> How do I make KDE apps use my gtk theme?
[07:11] <Falstius> Civik: yep
[07:11] <sauvin> I'd examine the code that creates the CREATE TABLE string first. Another thing you need to think about, I think, is finding a #mysql channel.
[07:11] <sauvin> I am no expert in SQL of any flavour, and this isn't an SQL channel.
[07:11] <Malegnis> alright sounds good, thanks
[07:12] <MrGreencastle> dameijar: that package you told me does the opposite....
[07:12] <MrGreencastle> damejiar: that package you told me does the opposite....
[07:12] <Wahyudinata> does ubuntu have make command?
[07:12] <kiba> hi
[07:12] <niuq> there is any ide for c++?
[07:12] <Wahyudinata> i just downloaded a tar and i cant install cause it doesnt have "make" command
[07:12] <mongolai> niuq, look at kdevelop
[07:12] <Malegnis> maybe you can answer this, are mysql and the "phpmyadmin" interface related?
[07:12] <Wahyudinata> '''''
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[07:12] <kiba> my restricted driver manager is telling me that I don't need restricted driver
[07:12] <Wahyudinata> soirry
[07:13] <damejiar> MrGreencastle : is to look like better the qt packages
[07:13] <pete83> MrGreencastle: you can't do it exactly. The best you can go is get the program Kcontrol, and then change the KDE Style to Klearlook
[07:13] <Falstius> niuq: I think eclipse can support c++ too.
[07:13] <damejiar> in gtk
[07:13] <Wahyudinata> was cealning keyboard
[07:13] <kiba> but I don't have opengl running
[07:13] <Wahyudinata> sorrry
[07:13] <kiba> nvidia drivers
[07:13] <niuq> Falstius: thx
[07:13] <mongolai> niuq, We also have eclipse and anjunta
[07:13] <GiZiM> Wahyudinata lol
[07:13] <james296>  can anyone tell me how to possibly change the system upgrade icon in Synaptic in Feisty Fawn?
[07:13] <Jack_Sparrow> If I boot livecd how do I get it to mount an ext3 partition.?
[07:13] <niuq> mongolai: isnt kdevelop for kde environment?
[07:13] <mongolai> niuq, it is fairly generic...
[07:13] <MrGreencastle> pete83: thats a bummer
[07:13] <niuq> mongolai: ok thx
[07:14] <SeveredCross> Jack_Sparrow: First make a directory in /media where you can mount it.
[07:14] <SeveredCross> (sudo mkdir /media/blah)
[07:14] <shawn34> Is there anyway to get menus on websites with flash to display on top? I've always had this problem where the menu is always hidden by other flash objects on the page
[07:14] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[07:14] <Falstius> niuq: a friend of mine who is a programing fanatic likes it.  There is also anjuta.  I tried it a few years ago and it wasn't mature enough but I imagine that has changed.
[07:14] <mongolai> niuq, I haven't used it in a while, but I remember kdevelop being fairly customizable
[07:14] <boyam> Malegnis:phpmyadmin is the frontend gui management tool for mysql
[07:14] <SeveredCross> Then use sudo mount /media/blah /dev/sda or whatever your ext3 partition is.
[07:14] <pete83> MrGreencastle: Klearlook looks close, and you can change the colours to match the ubuntu browns as well... but it won't look exactly like it
[07:15] <MrGreencastle> pete83: I want it to match the gtk themed I installed myself
[07:15] <Davy_Jones> good morning
[07:15] <niuq> Falstius: i think i'll try with eclipse!, i tried with netbeans but i keep having some issues!
[07:15] <niuq> mongolai: ok, maybe i'll give it a shot
[07:15] <Jack_Sparrow> SeveredCross: after I make the folder under media
[07:15] <Jack_Sparrow> oops
[07:16] <pete83> MrGreencastle: oh... then you'd have to find or make a similar KDE theme
[07:16] <MrGreencastle> yeah
[07:16] <SeveredCross> Yes Jack_Sparrow.
[07:16] <mongolai> niuq, Like Falstius said, eclipse is really good as well
[07:16] <niuq> mongolai: i am going to try it out, btw, do i have to install any extra package for c++?
[07:16] <Falstius> niuq: eclipse is originally for java and supports many many plugins.  You'll have to install a c++ plugin I believe.
[07:17] <bobgill> MrGreencastle: thanks!
[07:17] <mongolai> niuq, ^^
[07:17] <niuq> Falstius: thank you ^_^)!
[07:17] <MrGreencastle> bobgill: no prob
[07:17] <Davy_Jones> install the build_essential
[07:17] <Jack_Sparrow> SeveredCross: I can find the partition number with gparted but is there an easier way
[07:18] <Davy_Jones> fdisk
[07:18] <mongolai> niuq, Depending on your installation, you *might* need to install the gcc toolchain and g++
[07:18] <SeveredCross> Jack_Sparrow: sudo fdisk -l
[07:18] <Ademan> anyone know anything about open wrt?
[07:18] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[07:18] <SeveredCross> Ademan: I know I'd recommend HyperWRT. :)
[07:18] <SeveredCross> Er, HyperWRT Thibor.
[07:18] <niuq> mongolai: sudo apt-get install build-essential  ?
[07:19] <Davy_Jones> what's wrt
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> SeveredCross: is that -EYE or L
[07:19] <SeveredCross> -L
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks again
[07:19] <SeveredCross> But it's case sensitive so make sure you type a small l
[07:19] <Civik> Falstius, holy jesus i actually got the boot loader working :D Thanks soo much for your help man!
[07:19] <mongolai> niuq, I'm really not sure... I think apt-get install g++ will do the trick, if 'g++' fails...
[07:19] <Falstius> Civik: congrats.
[07:19] <Mendigo_D_Besos> hablan espaol?
[07:20] <Mendigo_D_Besos> hablan espaol?
[07:20] <niuq> mendigo si
[07:20] <Mendigo_D_Besos> necesito ayuda
[07:20] <niuq> Mendigo_D_Besos si
[07:20] <mongolai> !es | Mendigo_D_Besos
[07:20] <Falstius> !es | Mendigo_D_Besos
[07:20] <ubotu> Mendigo_D_Besos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:20] <madman91> hey guys
[07:20] <Mendigo_D_Besos> [niuq]  :D
[07:20] <niuq> hola, ah hay un canal en espaol
[07:20] <vikzx86> How do i install compiz themes in ubuntu?
[07:20] <Mendigo_D_Besos> [niuq]  te mando pv o te puedo consultar aki?
[07:20] <madman91> where can i find a feature rich gui that will reencode many formats into many formats with various codecs?
[07:20] <Mendigo_D_Besos> [niuq]  cual es?
[07:20] <Civik> Falstius, know any sites on installing beryl?
[07:20] <niuq> #ubuntu-es
[07:21] <Mendigo_D_Besos> [niuq]  gracias
[07:21] <niuq> Mendigo_D_Besos #ubuntu-es
[07:21] <niuq> de nada
[07:21] <Falstius> Civik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnFeisty
[07:21] <niuq> mongolai: well there it is a dedicated eclipse ide for c/c++ developers
[07:22] <AnAnt> !nvidia
[07:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:22] <Mendigo_D_Besos> [niuq]  como puedo hace para cambiarle el modo a una particion?
[07:22] <Mendigo_D_Besos> [niuq]  tenes idea?
[07:22] <Ademan> madman91: i think avienc or aviencode or something like that will do what you want
[07:22] <niuq> Mendigo_D_Besos: a que te referis el modo?
[07:22] <pete83> Davy_Jones: WRT refers to Wingless Robin Tatoos
[07:22] <madman91> Ademan: sweetness, thanks
[07:23] <Ademan> madman91: if only i was right lol, avidemux was what i was thinking of
[07:23] <Mendigo_D_Besos> [niuq]  a los permisos
[07:23] <madman91> Ademan: yeah, i was googling :)
[07:23] <Ademan> hehe
[07:23] <niuq> Mendigo_D_Besos: queres cambiarle los permisos a la particin?
[07:23] <Mendigo_D_Besos> [niuq]  si y no puedo porke esta en root
[07:24] <Falstius> Mendigo_D_Besos: ntfs?
[07:24] <niuq> Mendigo_D_Besos: creo que tendras que montar la particin con el id de tu usuario
[07:24] <Mendigo_D_Besos> ext3
[07:24] <Pie-rate> am i in #ubuntu-es by accident? =P
[07:25] <niuq> i think he has to mount the partition with his id user, im not sure if i am right
[07:25] <kitsuneofdoom> I've been having strange problems with 7.04 on my HP dv5000, the touchpad does weird things, including stopping working, and there is a hald-storage-addon that comes and steals all my cycles briefly. Certain programs have been crashing sometimes, and the graphics don't always work well. Is any of this a known problem? will this be fixed? I'm using 32 bit 7.04
[07:25] <Davy_Jones> Pie-rate: i think your IM client should tell you where you are
[07:26] <Pie-rate> Davy_Jones: http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense_of_Humor
[07:26] <Falstius> niuq: I read spansh (but I can't write worth anything).  Mendigo_D_Besos: porque tu no puedes chmod a+rwx /pippo
[07:26] <Pie-rate> Davy_Jones: oops, probably got capitalization wrong, but you get the idea from the URL
[07:27] <niuq> Falstius: i can help you with the translation
[07:27] <james296>  can anyone tell me how to possibly change the system upgrade icon in Synaptic in Feisty Fawn?
[07:27] <MilitantPotato> hey all
[07:28] <james296> can anyone PLEASE answer my question?
[07:28] <Pie-rate> james296: patience.
[07:28] <Davy_Jones> Pie-rate: why did you take me to an empty page?
[07:28] <Falstius> james296: your question doesn't make any sense.
[07:28] <defrysk> !patience james296
[07:28] <Pie-rate> Davy_Jones: i typed the url wrong, probably capitalization.
[07:29] <Pie-rate> Davy_Jones: you get the idea from the url, anyway.
[07:29] <MilitantPotato> I'm making a backup of my ubuntu install, does this bit a code look right? Especially the  - - exclude=/media bit  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30749/
[07:29] <james296> yes it does, I want the System Update icon to be changed in Synaptic, thats it
[07:29] <Floker> does any1 of you know an alternative to the windows program "netstumbler"? (not kismet, i want to have active scanning per probe requests)
[07:29] <robby> hi all
[07:30] <gerro> Floker: try wifi radar
[07:30] <NickABusey> I have a Linksys WMP11 v4 wireless card installed. I have ndiswrapper install and working. I have the drivers installed, and the device is present according to ndiswrapper. Yet I still have no wlan0 devices in iwconfig or ifconfig. lshw -C network shows *n-network:0 UNCLAIMED with the WMP11v4 listed
[07:30] <kitsuneofdoom> I've been having strange problems with 7.04 on my HP dv5000, the touchpad does weird things, including stopping working, and there is a hald-storage-addon that comes and steals all my cycles briefly. Certain programs have been crashing sometimes, and the graphics don't always work well. Is any of this a known problem? will this be fixed? I'm using 32 bit 7.04
[07:30] <Floker> thank you gerro
[07:30] <Pie-rate> james296: do you perhaps mean "mark all upgrades?" or the notification icon?
[07:30] <NickABusey> any suggestions on what else to do to get this driver working? the forum threads I've found seem to show that I have the proper setup
[07:30] <james296> yes, Mark All Upgrades, but its icon name is called system-upgrade
[07:31] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: umm don't know much about that older model I use dv9000t hp laptop, try checking forums perhaps
[07:31] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: having any problems?
[07:31] <Falstius> james296: why?
[07:31] <Davy_Jones> Pie-rate: i don't
[07:31] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: sounds like a mounting issue with udev, and not detecting touchpad right in xorg.conf, as well as irq setup
[07:32] <james296> why what? why do I want to change it? its UGLY! lol
[07:32] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: nah mine worked great, however I have builtin webcam and card reader that required extra configurations and my graphics card is newer model so I couldn't use the older drivers
[07:33] <Falstius> james296: so replace the .png with another one with the same name.
[07:33] <james296> thats exactly what I did
[07:33] <james296> but it didnt do anything
[07:34] <MilitantPotato> I'm making a backup of my ubuntu install, does this bit a code look right? Especially the  - - exclude=/media bit  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30749/
[07:34] <NickABusey> Anyone here have any experience installing a WMP11v4 on 6.06?
[07:34] <james296> still showws the same old icon, even though I dont have that icon anywhere anymore
[07:34] <robby> // Off Topic ///  saw on G4tv some people got into MS and got code for some music portable and now gets all music free.
[07:34] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: can you get me exact dv5000 model  and you said 7.04 right? what graphics card and proccessor? do you have direct rendering functioning?
[07:35] <Floker> new question: when i wardrive, my network-manager-applet shows a whole lot of networks. how can i tell it to re scan?
[07:36] <Floker> i do it per "disable network" -> "enable network" but that sometimes turns out really ugly
[07:36] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: DRI is not enabled, it's a custom 5000 with a Turion 64 (whatever the 2.2GHz one is) and ATI Mobility Radeon 200M. yes, 7.04, I've reinstalled like 5 times.
[07:36] <raylu> I've installed xubuntu-desktop, but I don't want it to load on startup; how do I do this?
[07:36] <raylu> I actually don't want gdm to load on startup at all
[07:36] <bruenig> Floker, if you are wardriving you might want to go more cli
[07:37] <bruenig> Floker, iwlist INTERFACE scan
[07:37] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: hmm you using x86 or amd64?
[07:37] <Floker> bruenig, i scan via iwlist already
[07:37] <Falstius> james296: download the source code and look through it for the icon name
[07:37] <Floker> but sometimes when i want to connect to a network, it doesn show up in the network-manager-applet
[07:37] <Floker> yet i see it in iwlist
[07:37] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: the 32 bit edition, I've found stability problems with the 64s and I haven't gone back yet
[07:38] <bruenig> well I don't use networkmanager so I can't help there
[07:38] <james296> how do I do that??
[07:38] <Floker> okay thank you bruenig
[07:38] <MilitantPotato> I'm making a backup of my ubuntu install, does this bit a code look right? Especially the  - - exclude=/media bit  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30749/
[07:38] <robby> man adderall makes me feel kinda weak and nervous after awhile
[07:38] <MilitantPotato> Anyone, please :)
[07:38] <Floker> it'll be fun anyways
[07:39] <MilitantPotato> my wife is making come to bed and I'd like to get a backup goin before I crash
[07:39] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: might want to start with getting the right ati drivers installed, think you can pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[07:39] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: the "right" ones?
[07:39] <_mongolai_> MilitantPotato: I wish I was in your shoes
[07:39] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: yeah you said you don't have dri going
[07:39] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: I've been using the OSS ones because the binary ones are all crashy
[07:39] <robby> i agree
[07:40] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: which binary ones did you use?
[07:40] <MilitantPotato> _mongolai_:  nah I wish I could stay up later tweaking Ubuntu :P
[07:40] <Falstius> james296: sudo apt-get source update-manager
[07:40] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: did you try the ones in ubuntu repository?
[07:40] <_mongolai_> Hehe
[07:40] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: the fglrx ones from the repos.
[07:40] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: might want to get the ones directly from ati
[07:41] <_mongolai_> MilitantPotato: first thing -- I think tar requires a '-' switch directly before the options...
[07:41] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: this might help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fglrx
[07:42] <Thanaton> _mongolai_: Actually, no.
[07:42] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: do you think the oss drivers are causing the problems and the ati ones won't?
[07:42] <_mongolai_> Thanaton: then I stand corrected :)
[07:42] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: http://pastebin.com/d1b662bfe
[07:42] <MilitantPotato> will the - -exclude=/media stop it from backing up my mounted drives?
[07:42] <robby> I love the Flamming Lips
[07:42] <bruenig> _mongolai_, used to, no longer though
[07:43] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: what do you mean oss?
[07:43] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: oss refers to open sound system which most use alsa now but oss for debugging and emulation purposes
[07:43] <bloobjib> hi
[07:43] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: Open Source Software?
[07:43] <bruenig> !hi | bloobjib
[07:43] <ubotu> bloobjib: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:43] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: I'm using the free drivers.
[07:43] <bloobjib> how hard would it be to convert knotes (it's open source) to GNOME?
[07:44] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: is yours one of those that can get direct rendering going?
[07:44] <ytoox> I am trying to install a phillips usb camera, how can I do it
[07:44] <bruenig> bloobjib, what do you mean convert?
[07:44] <ytoox> ?
[07:44] <bruenig> !webcam | ytoox
[07:44] <ubotu> ytoox: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:44] <robby> Anyone know what CGI is or what it means rather?
[07:44] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: I've managed to get dri but it always compromises stability a bit, and that's the last thing I want to do now.
[07:44] <_mongolai_> bloobjib: depends on your ability to read and understand source code
[07:44] <bruenig> does he mean convert from qt to gtk?
[07:44] <ytoox> ok
[07:45] <bloobjib> and more importantly, why hasn't anyone done it yet? ;P
[07:45] <_mongolai_> bruenig: ?! I don't know either
[07:45] <bloobjib> yea, from qt to gtk
[07:45] <bruenig> bloobjib, what does knotes do that is so great?
[07:45] <_mongolai_> bloobjib: that's not a trivial task
[07:45] <bloobjib> bruenig: it's purty
[07:45] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: because I can get dri by using the ati drivers but they stop hibernate/suspend from working and sometimes things crash.
[07:45] <james296> it says the source is already downloaded...
[07:45] <MilitantPotato>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30749/
[07:45] <robby> CGI anyone?
[07:45] <bloobjib> and is the most customizable of all the note applications available
[07:45] <MilitantPotato> Someone please review that
[07:45] <Thanaton> CGI is, depending on the context, either 'Common Gateway Interface' for web, or 'Computer Generated Imagery' for graphics
[07:45] <bruenig> bloobjib, well if it is purty, then that will change when you change the toolkit
[07:46] <_mongolai_> bruenig: lol. Perhape s/he meant "elegant"
[07:46] <bruenig> bloobjib, what kind of notes, like sticky notes or class notes, I am looking for a good app to take class notes
[07:46] <james296> now what?
[07:46] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: that might be caused by them editing xorg
[07:46] <bruenig> other than the generic word processor
[07:46] <bloobjib> bruenig: it's purty when running on gnome though
[07:46] <bloobjib> bruenig: they're sticky notes
[07:46] <bloobjib> meant to look exactly like post-it notes (but digitally, of course ;P)
[07:46] <bruenig> how much can you really do with sitckies
[07:47] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: if you can view the changes they make to xorg you can edit that perhaps
[07:47] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: but they haven't, I've reinstalled since then.
[07:47] <_mongolai_> bruenig: you use Tomboy notes?
[07:47] <bloobjib> they're my interactive todo lists
[07:47] <bloobjib> tomboy is horrible
[07:47] <bruenig> _mongolai_, is that viable for class?
[07:47] <bloobjib> the gdesklets applet for sticky notes is horrible
[07:47] <robby> cool, i would assume Common Gatway Int.  seeing as to how im reading a networking book.  thanks Thanaton
[07:47] <roachmmflhyr> I cannot access my Apache from outside my LAN, my port is opened in firestarter, forwarded at my router, ISP has opened it(i run a port scan and it says state is filtered?), I can access apache from anywhere on my LAN just no where outside of it. do i need to edit my /etc/host? I dont know im lost thanks in advance
[07:47] <Sevk> intel 945, ub 7.04 ..  search for acpi and sensor, I can view temperature now ,but how to view voltage?
[07:47] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: anyway how is your touchpad having trouble anyway?
[07:47] <SeveredCross> Is Tomboy good?
[07:47] <bloobjib> the only half-reasonable alternative is 'sticky notes' in the gnome panel
[07:47] <_mongolai_> i dunno. Is it?
[07:47] <bloobjib> tomboy is horribly, honestly
[07:47] <bruenig> tomboy has some cool features
[07:47] <Thanaton> My pleasure, robby
[07:47] <bruenig> but I don't know if it is viable for class notes
[07:47] <bloobjib> knotes is, imo, by far the best of the options
[07:47] <SeveredCross> Never used it, never bothered.
[07:47] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: the scroller stops working. Sometimes Firefox and other programs crash when this happens.
[07:47] <bloobjib> but it's KDE:)
[07:47] <Daveyboy> I need to install php5 from source becuase there maybe a problem with the package install via apt-get. I downloaded and installed with checkinstall but my phpinfo page in apache2 shows vesion 5.1.2 where as my cli version shows 5.2.3, any suggestions?
[07:47] <bruenig> bloobjib, it is a sticky note app, come on man
[07:47] <MilitantPotato> Text editor is great for notes :D
[07:48] <bloobjib> bruenig: do you ever buy post-it notes?
[07:48] <bruenig> xfce has one, called sticky note or something,  you type and then you close it
[07:48] <_mongolai_> Tomboy is a major memory hog, for what it is, but I still like it...
[07:48] <bruenig> it has tabs for different notes
[07:48] <bloobjib> bruenig: because I do..... well, did :P
[07:48] <bruenig> I don't see what more you could want
[07:48] <bloobjib> I don't want tabs
[07:48] <james296> what am I supposed to do now?
[07:48] <bloobjib> I want to be fooled into thinking there's real post-it notes on my screen ;)
[07:48] <bloobjib> but i might be alone on that
[07:48] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: hmm odd mine like most other laptops I have used doesn't have a scroller
[07:49] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: that is a rather unique feature
[07:49] <smash_> hello everyone. Can any one help me to configure my D-Link G510 wireless pci adapater.
[07:49] <Thrillhammer> hi
[07:49] <dewbie> hey0 all
[07:49] <bloobjib> http://news.softpedia.com/images//news2/KNotes-2.png
[07:49] <Thrillhammer> whats up
[07:49] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: not really. It's a bunch of bumps on the right side of the touchpad that when brushed against work like a scroll wheel
[07:49] <bloobjib> good review of knotes on that page by the way (in comparison to other sticky note applications): http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/KNotes-Review-32849.shtml
[07:49] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: I've seen it on a lot of laptops
[07:50] <Daveyboy> I need to install php5 from source becuase there maybe a problem with the package install via apt-get. I downloaded and installed with checkinstall but my phpinfo page in apache2 shows vesion 5.1.2 where as my cli version shows 5.2.3, any suggestions?
[07:50] <bruenig> bloobjib, I don't get it, there are many applications that can do that
[07:50] <_mongolai_> bloobjib: Tell ya what -- Set your desktop BG to black, then use a dry-erase marker on the screen!!
[07:50] <bloobjib> _mongolai_: been there, it just isn't as great
[07:50] <Thrillhammer> touchpad kinda pisses me off at times
[07:50] <bloobjib> bruenig: name one :P
[07:50] <Doublerob7> Hey guys, can someone lend a hand helping me set up my mouse real quick?
[07:50] <bruenig> bloobjib, well all the applet engines can do it
[07:50] <_mongolai_> bloobjib: then you're just too picky ;P
[07:50] <bruenig> I have a sticky note thing on my google homepage that will do that
[07:51] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: ummm ook that sounds odd
[07:51] <bloobjib> honestly, the _only_ reason i run it is because I want things that look exactly like real post-it notes on my desktop
[07:51] <_mongolai_> Doublerob7: what's the problem?
[07:51] <bloobjib> it's purely visual for me
[07:51] <bloobjib> which imo i'm allowed to have, as all the other applications I use I use for function or speed:P
[07:51] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: on side of my touchpad I have a line where I can scroll up and down
[07:51] <bruenig> bloobjib, if sticky notes were an important thing and there weren't already so many implementations, someone might spend time on it but it is pretty pointless
[07:51] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: that seems to work alright but gets annoying sometime
[07:51] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: same thing, exept mine is bumps
[07:51] <bruenig> a note is a note
[07:51] <panfist> hey, neither the regular nor alternate installer CD of ubuntu feisty work on my machine, if i try to use the text installer it fails to mount the cd drive, and with the regular instaler/live cd it does not boot into the live environment, i get a tty error or something
[07:52] <bloobjib> a note is a note much like a girl is a girl
[07:52] <bloobjib> I'd rather have a pretty one ;(
[07:52] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: well, actually, pits
[07:52] <bruenig> those don't look sticky notes anyways
[07:52] <bloobjib> they do if you change the colour to a lighter yellow
[07:52] <bruenig> bloobjib, they don't even make sense, if they were "sticky" why would there be a pin
[07:52] <luca> does someone know the command to shut down the screen by chance? :)
[07:52] <bloobjib> also, the other note applications don't have basic features such as mark-up
[07:52] <bloobjib> that pin thing does bother me ;)
[07:52] <bloobjib> I didn't say knotes was perfect, but it comes closest
[07:53] <bruenig> the fold is stupid
[07:53] <bloobjib> the fold makes it fun :/
[07:53] <Davy_Jones> luca: click the power button on the screen?
[07:53] <_mongolai_> bloobjib just needs to hack .vimrc and use vim...
[07:53] <bloobjib> Davy_Jones: might be a laptop:)
[07:53] <Thanaton> luca:  do you mean the 'screen' application, or the X11 server?
[07:53] <luca> Davy_Jones: I want to set up a hot key :)
[07:53] <luca> I want the screen to be shut down, not the X11 server :D
[07:53] <bloobjib> lol, i wasnt aware vim came in a post-it version :P
[07:53] <echosystm> ffs, i keep getting acpi errors and my hard drive keeps getting checked for errors
[07:53] <james296> I still need help changing the Mark All Updates icon in Synaptic...
[07:53] <SeveredCross> Ctrl-Alt-L locks the screen?
[07:54] <SeveredCross> james296: Recompile synaptic?
[07:54] <echosystm> i dont want to have to disable acpi though :(
[07:54] <james296> how?
[07:54] <echosystm> is there any way to just use apm?
[07:54] <Thanaton> Oh!  You want to put the display to sleep via DPMS
[07:54] <_mongolai_> bloobjib: vim is the zombo.com ov text editors
[07:54] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: well I don't really know what the issue is
[07:54] <SeveredCross> james296: If you don't already know, I don't really think you should even try.
[07:54] <bloobjib> _mongolai_: i'm familiar with it :P
[07:54] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: its really late and I'm sorta out of it
[07:54] <SeveredCross> Why do you need to change the icon anyway?
[07:54] <kitsuneofdoom> gerro: it stops working
[07:54] <bloobjib> not with zombo, but with vim :P
[07:54] <bruenig> vim is great though
[07:54] <Falstius> echosystm: you can add apm=force acpi=no to the kernel parameters I believe.
[07:54] <bloobjib> it is great
[07:54] <bruenig> zombo is pointless
[07:54] <_mongolai_> bloobjib: check out zombo...
[07:55] <gerro> kitsuneofdoom: try checking the forum for your model and whatever customizing you did
[07:55] <james296> why shouldnt I try? why should I have to deal with one HIDEOUS icon?
[07:55] <Startek> hi
[07:55] <SeveredCross> How often do you deal with the bloody icon?
[07:55] <SeveredCross> I mean really.
[07:55] <SeveredCross> Do you sit there and stare at it every time you open Synaptic?
[07:55] <james296> I thought anything could be done with Ubuntu, I thought it was supposed to be better than Windows?
[07:55] <bloobjib> but let me reiterate, I wanted a (sticky) note system for on my desktop and I had one criterium; it has to look as much a real post-it note as possible
[07:55] <BezNalogov> Hello everyone
[07:55] <bloobjib> james296: gah, better ask for your money back
[07:55] <bruenig> james296, which icon?
[07:55] <smoenux> I'm running CompizFusion.. When I run a JAVA app, (ie. ArgoUML) the window borders load, but no window content shows... if compiz fusion is turned off, it works fine... anyone know how I can fix?
[07:55] <bruenig> james296, the one in the menu?
[07:55] <SeveredCross> bruenig: The System Upgrade one in Synaptic itself.
[07:55] <luca> james296: it depends on WHAT you want to do
[07:55] <chowmeined> how come my mime types in ubuntu get messed up a lot?
[07:56] <bruenig> in synaptic itself?
[07:56] <Doublerob7> _mongolai_, i'm stuck after installing imwheel, my thumb buttons work, but they don't do what they're supposed to
[07:56] <SeveredCross> Yeah.
[07:56] <bloobjib> replacing icons tend to be fairly easy in ubuntu
[07:56] <echosystm> theres no option to choose apm or acpi in my bios
[07:56] <Tixer> Help! I have a process that won't die, and is taking up 86% of my CPU. It's called Java! How do I kill it!
[07:56] <echosystm> shouldnt there be one? :/
[07:56] <luca> james296: if you want gaming for example, windows is surely better, considering wine and cedega are good but not perfect :P
[07:56] <SeveredCross> Tixer: kill -9 pid
[07:56] <james296> no not in any icon, the Mark All Updates icon in Synaptic
[07:56] <echosystm> seems like a pretty straight forward thing
[07:56] <roachmmflhyr> I cannot access my Apache from outside my LAN, my port is opened in firestarter, forwarded at my router, ISP has opened it(i run a port scan and it says state is filtered?), I can access apache from anywhere on my LAN just no where outside of it. do i need to edit my /etc/host? I dont know im lost thanks in advance
[07:56] <smoenux> rofl
[07:56] <bruenig> SeveredCross, well he can always modify the source and recompile right
[07:56] <SeveredCross> That's what I told him.
[07:56] <luca> TIxer: gksu gnome-system-monitor and then kill it
[07:56] <SeveredCross> But he has no idea how to go about doing that.
[07:56] <smoenux> Tixer: lol.. funny
[07:56] <bloobjib> james296: the what?
[07:57] <_mongolai_> Doublerob7: how many mouse buttons do you have, and note a scroll wheel counts as 3 buttons?
[07:57] <bloobjib> james296: where's that?
[07:57] <james296> actually I find a few games like Quake 4 and Doom 3 to be better on Ubuntu than Windows Vista...
[07:57] <panfist> can anyone help me please, i'm trying to install ubuntu on a desktop and neither the live cd nor text installer cd will boot
[07:57] <SeveredCross> And if he has no idea how to go about it now, Synaptic is a pretty difficult project to jump into.
[07:57] <Tixer> YAY!
[07:57] <smoenux> Tixer: unfortunately I dont have any other choice... these are the best programs out there for what I need to do, and they run Java
[07:57] <bruenig> james296, go read some books on programming in c and c++ or whatever synaptic is coded in and then try to modify the source so that the icon is different
[07:57] <bloobjib> oh, in synaptic
[07:57] <james296> ok Mark All Upgrades
[07:57] <bruenig> or just uninstall synaptic and use cli, that seems a better solution really
[07:57] <SeveredCross> That icon isn't even that bad.
[07:57] <bloobjib> james296: i'm normally fairly open-minded in minor replacements in OSs, but... seriously?
[07:57] <Doublerob7> _mongolai_, i'm using a wireless intellimouse explorer 2.0, 7 buttons
[07:57] <robby> GOD!!  Flamming Lips are awsome!! sorry
[07:58] <bloobjib> how often do you see the 'mark all upgrades' icon? lol
[07:58] <xtknight> james296, what icon?
[07:58] <bloobjib> xtknight: mark all upgrades in Synaptic
[07:58] <xtknight> james296, icons dont require any source code moficiation
[07:58] <james296> every time I open Synaotic?
[07:58] <james296> Synaptic*
[07:58] <SeveredCross> Whenever you run Synaptic, but still, do you sit there and stare at it and say "Oh God, that's so UGLY."
[07:58] <bruenig> that is compiled in
[07:58] <xtknight> james296, you should be able to change it easily.  if not, file a bug
[07:58] <bloobjib> james296: yea, how often do you open synaptic? ;)
[07:58] <SeveredCross> How would you change that?
[07:58] <BezNalogov> I have installed openvpn on two machines (one in Brussels, one in Rotterdam). The VPN connection works fine. Both machines see eachother and can use eachothers services. The only problem is that the client machines on the network in Brussels can't access the servers in Rotterdam. The other way is possible. I simply have on the clients in Brussels this command: route add -net 172.19.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 gw 192.168.1.2 The gateway that
[07:58] <BezNalogov> is set is the machine that makes the openvpn connection to Rotterdam. It also has ip forwarding on.
[07:58] <bloobjib> i'd imagine there to be a .jar somewhere with the icon waiting to be replaced
[07:58] <james296> hmmm, everyday?
[07:59] <BezNalogov> Should I change anything else on that machine to make it work?
[07:59] <SeveredCross> WTF are you opening Synaptic for every day?
[07:59] <bloobjib> james296: you should start working in terminal
[07:59] <SeveredCross> You install and remove software every day?
[07:59] <bruenig> james296, do dpkg -L synaptic | grep png, go look at all of those to see if any of them are the right icon and if so switch it out
[07:59] <bloobjib> enjoy the linux experience and whatnot
[07:59] <_mongolai_> Doublerob7: you probably need to set-up xorg.conf for that. Luckily you have a fairly common mouse, so there should be tutorials that pertain to your problem...
[07:59] <xtknight> james296, i'll offer to find it for you
[07:59] <_mongolai_> Doublerob7: just a sec...
[07:59] <pawan> hi
[07:59] <SeveredCross> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/res/actions/system-upgrade.png
[07:59] <orange__> Hi i need help quick too . I need a program or command in terminal to shutdown at a specific time
[08:00] <orange__> Hi i need help quick too . I need a program or command in terminal to shutdown at a certain time.
[08:00] <bruenig> !repeat
[08:00] <orange__> Is it possible?
[08:00] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:00] <bruenig> !cron | orange__
[08:00] <ubotu> orange__: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[08:00] <Flannel> orange__: You mean you need to shutdown your computer at a certain time?
[08:00] <Doublerob7> mongolai, i've looked at them, but none seem to be able to help me any further, and i've tinkered with xorg.conf for each of them
[08:00] <james296> the thing is though I already changed the icon in the Synaptic folder to what I want, I got rid of the old icon in every directory I found it in and replaced them with the new icon, but when I open synaptic, the icon is still the old icon
[08:00] <xtknight> james296, e.g.,  /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/actions/system-upgrade.png
[08:00] <orange__> Flannel yes
[08:00] <james296> Im sorry I should have mentioned that earlier
[08:00] <orange__> certain time
[08:00] <Flannel> orange__: shutdown does that by default: `sudo shutdown [time] `  see man shutdown for all the details
[08:01] <Daveyboy> I need to install php5 from source becuase there maybe a problem with the package install via apt-get. I downloaded and installed with checkinstall but my phpinfo page in apache2 shows vesion 5.1.2 where as my cli version shows 5.2.3, I need them to both be 5.2.3, any suggestions?
[08:01] <mongolai> Doublerob7: can you /msg me, this channel is going too fast..
[08:01] <Daveyboy> I need to install php5 from source becuase there maybe a problem with the package install via apt-get. I downloaded and installed with checkinstall but my phpinfo page in apache2 shows vesion 5.1.2 where as my cli version shows 5.2.3, I need them to both be 5.2.3, any suggestions?
[08:01] <smoenux> I'm running CompizFusion.. When I run a JAVA app, (ie. ArgoUML) the window borders load, but no window content shows... if compiz fusion is turned off, it works fine... anyone know how I can fix?
[08:01] <bloobjib> orange__: use cron?
[08:01] <juano__> where can i report something for ubuntu ? i found out that they forgot to package fceu wtih open-gl in there repos, when i compiled from source fceu --with-opengl it worked fine
[08:01] <bloobjib> orange__: I recommend you to get http://gnome-schedule.sourceforge.net/
[08:01] <xtknight> juano__, launchpad
[08:01] <orange__> Flannel yes so i want shutdown at 3:00 AM
[08:01] <juano__> xtknight: what ?
[08:01] <pawan> can we use multiple login in yahoo messenger in ubuntu
[08:01] <xtknight> !launchpad | juano__
[08:01] <ubotu> juano__: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[08:01] <bloobjib> pawan: to the same account?
[08:02] <juano__> xtknight: ahh thanks!
[08:02] <orange__> use cron or grnome schedule?
[08:02] <n2diy> ! bugs | juano__:
[08:02] <ubotu> juano__:: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:02] <xtknight> juano__, report it as a bug
[08:02] <bloobjib> pawan: you can login as many times as you want on Gaim (now Pidgin, but Gaim is preinstalled)
[08:02] <bloobjib> orange__: gnome schedule uses cron
[08:02] <bloobjib> pawan: but only once per account
[08:02] <juano__> xtknight: good thanks
[08:02] <bloobjib> orange__: gnome schedule gives a GUI for cron, see the website
[08:02] <tetonca> bloobjib: i'd drop a semaphore file ~/.shutdown and test for that in cron to block it from actually shutting down or allowing it to, then schedule the shutdown in cron.
[08:02] <pawan> not more than one account login
[08:02] <bloobjib> orange__: what tetonca said
[08:03] <bloobjib> pawan: you want to log into the same account more than once?
[08:03] <pawan> how to install pidgin
[08:03] <xtknight> !info gnome-schedule
[08:03] <ubotu> gnome-schedule: GNOME scheduler for automatic tasks. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-2 (feisty), package size 428 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[08:03] <panfist> can anyone help me figure out how to start an ubuntu install i have on this machine...neither the live cd nor alternate installer cd will boot. thanks
[08:03] <xtknight> pawan, pidgin is "gaim" in Feisty
[08:03] <james296> so any other ideas?
[08:03] <pawan> two different yahoo account
[08:03] <xtknight> james296, did you modify /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/actions/system-upgrade.png  ?
[08:03] <bloobjib> pawan: gaim is already installed, you could use that
[08:03] <pawan> simultaneously
[08:03] <bloobjib> although pidgin is much nicer
[08:03] <james296> yes I already told you thats been done
[08:03] <tetonca> bloob: this way when you're into something neat at 2:40 a.m. you drop ~/.dont_shutdown to keep from losing the interesting thing at 3:00 sharp.  Been there done that.
[08:03] <bloobjib> there's a .deb out there somewhere, but i recommend manually installing it (go to pidgin.im and download it, read the INSTALL file)
[08:03] <james296> I already changed it to a new icon a while ago
[08:04] <bloobjib> tetonca: might want to tell orange__ :P
[08:04] <Civik> Anyone able to help me change what background when you go into cube form and the image on the top and bottom of the cube in Beryl?
[08:04] <james296> but in Synaptic it still shows the icon
[08:04] <bloobjib> james296: did you... restart the application?
[08:04] <james296> this is Feisty Fawn btw
[08:04] <james296> yes
[08:04] <james296> I did
[08:04] <smoenux> Pidgin will be in Gutsy
[08:04] <bloobjib> james296: I still find it hard to believe this bothers you, lol
[08:04] <james296> I even rebooted the machine several times
[08:04] <X704> what is a good CD copying program for Gnome?
[08:04] <pawan> what should i select to download fedora
[08:04] <xtknight> james296, hmm alright one moment again then
[08:04] <pawan> but i have ubuntu
[08:05] <pawan> and there is no ubuntu option
[08:05] <bloobjib> X704: the built in one isn't too bad
[08:05] <mongolai> james296: I missed your question. Can you ask again?
[08:05] <james296> hey some ppl could be very much into eye candy you wouldnt believe...
[08:05] <bloobjib> mongolai: replacing the 'mark all upgrades ' icon in Synaptic
[08:05] <mongolai> ok
[08:05] <smoenux> X704: give K3b a go
[08:05] <pawan> how to repo file
[08:05] <bloobjib> james296: oh I believe you, I was in here asking about notes looking exactly like post-it notes just 10 minutes ago
[08:05] <X704> hmm
[08:06] <bloobjib> smoenux: that's KDE
[08:06] <james296> mongolai Im having trouble changing the Mark All Upgrades icon in Synaptic to what I want
[08:06] <mind-shift> How do I lock the desktop from any usage?
[08:06] <pawan> pidgin.repo
[08:06] <smoenux> oops
[08:06] <smoenux> ya
[08:06] <mongolai> james296: ok. gotcha
[08:06] <bloobjib> pawan: one second
[08:06] <bloobjib> pawan: you want http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=235&filename=pidgin-2.0.2.tar.bz2
[08:06] <n2diy> mind-shift: google Ubuntu kiosks
[08:06] <bloobjib> pawan: unzip it somewhere, open a gnome-terminal, then read the 'INSTALL' file
[08:07] <bloobjib> pawan: it will tell you to ./configure, make, make install (don't forget to sudo)
[08:07] <smoenux> X704: bloodjib is correct that's a KDE app... so you might not like it... I'm using it though, even though I'm on gnome
[08:07] <bloobjib> it'll require extra libraries to be installed, k3b
[08:07] <bloobjib> X704: what's wrong with the default program?
[08:07] <bloobjib> too simplistic?
[08:07] <X704> heh, probably nothing
[08:07] <smoenux> lol
[08:08] <X704> I do have K3B...
[08:08] <X704> as well
[08:08] <bloobjib> X704: main menu > places > cd/dvd creator
[08:08] <bloobjib> is the default one... but k3b is generally considered the best burning program
[08:08] <roachmmflhyr> dumb question i image but what goes in /etc/host for Apache to run right
[08:08] <bloobjib> but it's not for GNOME (although it does work on GNOME)
[08:09] <panfist> can anyone help me work out how to install ubuntu..the live cd will not boot, and the alternate install will not either. the alternate install fails to mount to the cd rom drive. thanks
[08:09] <X704> bloobjib: K3B looks like it checks to see if the disk is "copy-protected"...
[08:09] <tetonca> panfist did you try a debian boot media?
[08:09] <james296> ok well Im off to bed now since I cant get any responses to my question and its getting VERY late here...
[08:09] <X704> does it?
[08:10] <bloobjib> X704: that I do not know
[08:10] <roachmmflhyr> panfist: did you set your boot priority to boot CDROM first
[08:10] <bloobjib> james296: good luck next time :] 
[08:10] <xtknight> james296, i'm sure somebody knows, anyway.  ask on the GNOME mailing list
[08:10] <mongolai> james296: sorry buddy. :(
[08:10] <xtknight> i just dont feel like dismantling my whole synaptic at 2am :p
[08:10] <bloobjib> so, who feels like porting knotes to gnome for me? don't be shy.
[08:10] <Daveyboy> I need to install php5 from source becuase there maybe a problem with the package install via apt-get. I downloaded and installed with checkinstall but my phpinfo page in apache2 shows vesion 5.1.2 where as my cli version shows 5.2.3, I need them to both be 5.2.3, any suggestions?
[08:10] <panfist> roachmmflyhr yes it is booting from the cd rom, both cds start booting then fail
[08:10] <panfist> tetonca no i have just used feisty regular and feisty alternat
[08:11] <BaD_CrC> do any of you know where i can find some good optimizations using sysctl.conf
[08:11] <roachmmflhyr> panfist: what error are you getting?
[08:12] <xtknight> james296, oh
[08:12] <mongolai> Daveyboy: Just a thought, but what version of mod_php do you have installed?
[08:12] <BaD_CrC> i'm told that's the file that has a lot of control over /proc settings and i should find some places to read up on the sysctl.conf file.
[08:12] <xtknight> james296, you might need to delete icon-theme.cache
[08:12] <panfist> roachmmflyhr it does "Detecting CD Rom drives" after selecting my language and keyboard, then,
[08:12] <xtknight> man sysctl
[08:12] <BaD_CrC> `man sysctl.conf`doesn't tell me much
[08:12] <panfist> "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted...Try again?"
[08:12] <james296> in which directory?
[08:12] <xtknight> james296, /usr/share/icons/hicolor
[08:13] <echosystm> does 6.10 use a different kernel from 7.04?
[08:13] <xtknight> james296, all i know is, that it's in /usr/share.  you rename icons to icons2 and then Mark All Upgrades is gone.
[08:13] <james296> ah ha, I'll check that out right now
[08:13] <panfist> if i hit yes i get the exact same screen, no i am sent to "ubuntu installer main menu"
[08:13] <xtknight> echosystm, yes
[08:13] <Daveyboy> mongal, is that in the phpinfo page?
[08:13] <echosystm> ive got acpi problems, want to see if the older kernel has same prob
[08:13] <echosystm> ok
[08:13] <echosystm> thanks
[08:13] <panfist> this is for the alternate install cd
[08:13] <tetonca> panfist: you can ALT+F3 or ALT+F4 to see other error messages. Try any low function key number with ALT to switch to the other available terminals.
[08:14] <Daveyboy> mongolai, is that in the php info page
[08:14] <hamadooo> so what can we do with ubuntu now
[08:14] <mongolai> Daveyboy: i think in phpinfo
[08:14] <panfist> it looks like "moyunt: Mounting /dev/scd0 on /cdrom failed"
[08:14] <hamadooo> should learn somthing
[08:14] <bloobjib> hamadooo: we can browse the web and open .jpg
[08:14] <bloobjib> hamadooo: what else could one want to do?
[08:14] <james296> AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:14] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> hi
[08:14] <james296> IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:14] <bloobjib> james296: congrats:P
[08:14] <hamadooo> no somthing specail
[08:14] <juano__> xtknight: k i reported it, thanks for the link
[08:14] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> i have a problem installing ubuntu
[08:14] <james296> I will remember that next time
[08:14] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> can someone help me?
[08:15] <panfist> also "CDROM-detect failed; unmounting CD just to be sure" there are lots of lines in this terminal about a mount fail
[08:15] <bloobjib> hamadooo: it runs firefox, also has a text editor.. do you perhaps have a more specific question?
[08:15] <bloobjib> i'm sure there's 23,433,592 pages out there explaining the differences between Ubuntu and <insert random OS>
[08:15] <james296> wow, Im a happy camper now!!!
[08:15] <james296> lol
[08:15] <panfist> is there a way i can jump into a shell terminal or something, try to manually mount the CD, then jump back in the installer script?
[08:15] <xtknight> james296, aren't you glad you didnt go to bed? ;)
[08:15] <james296> lol
[08:15] <hamadooo> i don't know ...... maybe want to learn some terminal commands
[08:15] <james296> I suppose
[08:15] <xtknight> cmon ubuntu rocks
[08:15] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> i have a problem installing ubuntu... can someone help me?
[08:15] <tetonca> panfist: can you swap in a different drive (physically) to get a possible different outcome?  Can you 'dmesg' in the shell?
[08:15] <xtknight> you knew it all along
[08:16] <mongolai> james296: how did you fix it?
[08:16] <bloobjib> hamadooo: you can also change your 'mark all upgrades' icon to whatever you want
[08:16] <xtknight> mongolai, he deleted icons cache in /usr/share
[08:16] <hamadooo> which mark all you mean ??
[08:16] <mongolai> cool
[08:16] <bloobjib> hamadooo: nevermind.. what would you like to know specifically?
[08:17] <panfist> tetonca i have 2x 500 gb drives in sata and i have tried both with both install media, and have got the same errors. i can't dmesg because im not at a shell right now (in the alternate install...altho when booting the live CD, i do end up at some kind of shell)
[08:17] <xtknight> to change icons in windows i had to use reshacker on shell32.dll.  then it contained about file protection.  i had no ownership of my pc anymore
[08:17] <hamadooo> well i want to update my wireless adapter driver
[08:17] <james296> I removed the icon-theme.cache file in the directory it was in\
[08:17] <hamadooo> could you help ??
[08:17] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> i downloaded the iso from the site , burned it and when it loads i selece start or install ubuntu... then it says loading linux kernel and then a black screen and nothing else.... can someone help me?
[08:17] <Daveyboy> mongolai, i dont see it
[08:17] <rryan> Hi... so my laptop is a tablet. I have Xubuntu 6.10.   I have two buttons on the tablet that for some reason generate Super_R + '1' and Super_R  + '0
[08:17] <rryan> ''
[08:17] <xtknight> panfist, do you end up at a "busybox"?
[08:17] <rryan> when I push them
[08:17] <Lunis> bah, i can't figure this out, i've enabled nvidia-glx but now I'm stuck at one resolution, despite having all resolutions set up in xorg.conf. I recall a certain option that is required, something about guessing monitor capabilities being bugged through nvidia-glx driver... anyone know?
[08:17] <rryan> I'd like to modmap them to Up and Down
[08:18] <panfist> tetonca maybe the problem is with my motherboard, i am using sata hard disks and a pata optical drive, and the motherboard is operating in "enhanced" ide mode, but when i ran in "compatability" i got the same errors
[08:18] <hamadooo> kathe_ti_pou_ana       ... maybe you burned the cd in wrong way
[08:18] <james296> Im sorry I was being a pest about it, but for me, I just want everything to look...well, perfect
[08:18] <xtknight> Lunis, yea NoDDC
[08:18] <xtknight> Lunis, or something like that.
[08:18] <rryan> anyone know if you can use xmodmap to make combinations of keys map to another keysym
[08:18] <james296> and obviously theres no way that can happen with Windows Vista...
[08:18] <xtknight> Lunis, it's either DDC or EDID that gets monitor capabilities.  Both X and nvidia have options to ignore it.
[08:18] <frankg> which firewall comes standard with ubuntu?
[08:18] <jetscreamer> you're having a problem with not finding root, right?
[08:18] <xtknight> frankg, iptables
[08:18] <Lunis> xtknight: yeah something like that, i'll try googling those to find the right one
[08:18] <keenen> I don't have a linux swap partition
[08:18] <Brime> does ubuntu come with a software firewall installed by defalut?
[08:18] <frankg> xtknight, thx
[08:18] <keenen> I don't have a linux swap partition
[08:18] <panfist> xtknight from the alternate or regular cds? from the alternate i end up at "ubuntu installer main menu" with the 3rd step "detect and mount cdrom" highlighted
[08:18] <hamadooo> kathe_ti_pou_ana       ... check the md5 number
[08:18] <xtknight> Brime, frankg it comes with an empty iptables firewall
[08:18] <keenen> how do i fix that?
[08:18] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: how much time did you wait
[08:18] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> i already done that
[08:18] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> a lot..
[08:18] <jetscreamer> you're having a problem with not finding root, right panfist ?
[08:18] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: in the black screen
[08:19] <Flannel> kathe_ti_pou_ana: it's not necessarily a bad thing.  Would you like a swap partition?
[08:19] <panfist> xtknight i dont recall busybox from the other install media but i really dont remember
[08:19] <mongolai> Daveyboy: ask again. There are probably more PHP people here now...
[08:19] <roachmmflhyr> should i put myhost.dyndns.com in /ect/host along with 192.168.0.100, localhost and 127.0.0.1
[08:19] <Flannel> keenen: it's not necessarily a bad thing.  Would you like a swap partition?
[08:19] <xtknight> panfist, hmm.  does it say "tty job control" or anything weird like that?
[08:19] <Daveyboy> I need to install php5 from source becuase there maybe a problem with the package install via apt-get. I downloaded and installed with checkinstall but my phpinfo page in apache2 shows vesion 5.1.2 where as my cli version shows 5.2.3, I need them to both be 5.2.3, any suggestions?
[08:19] <jetscreamer> you can use a swap file also
[08:19] <keenen> yea
[08:19] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: what iso did you download ?
[08:19] <panfist> jetscreamer im having trouble getting an install of ubuntu feisty to start
[08:19] <Flannel> keenen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[08:19] <warlocky> I kinda messed up my php.ini file (for php5) and my webserver aint working now, is there a way to get your orginal php.ini file back?
[08:19] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: and what is your system architecture ?
[08:19] <bloobjib> there's lokkit and guarddog on the firewall department for ubuntu
[08:19] <xtknight> Lunis, NoDDC or IgnoreEDID:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/peripherals-hardware/8822-nvidia-geforce2go-external-lcd-monitor.html
[08:19] <panfist> xtknight yes it does, i can pop in the live cd right now to get the exact error message but that rings a bell
[08:19] <bloobjib> both not installed by default, but both in repos
[08:19] <jetscreamer> xtknight: he's reached my favorite bug, it came around 2.6.13/udev
[08:20] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> 1gb ram athlon x2 2.4ghz
[08:20] <xtknight> Lunis, under nvidia:     Option "IgnoreEDID" "on" and    Option "NoDDC" "on"
[08:20] <Lunis> xtknight: thanks so much
[08:20] <warlocky> Anyone? *cries* :'(
[08:20] <keenen> I put my PC to stand by and then when i turn it on it says something about swap
[08:20] <panfist> jetscreamer really? what bug is that
[08:20] <jetscreamer> xtknight: make an udev rule and/or mkinitrd rule to control the order of loading the ide drivers
[08:20] <xtknight> jetscreamer, on the livecd?
[08:20] <jetscreamer> see also nuke udev
[08:20] <pawan> i downlodes pidgin but how to install
[08:20] <jetscreamer> yeh.. no nuking though
[08:20] <xtknight> not much of an idea about that :O
[08:20] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> i waited about 10minutes on the black screen
[08:20] <panfist> i have even tried PXE booting, yesterday i installed xubuntu on an old laptop over pxe using tftp on win server 2003, but for some reason this trouble desktop wont even PXE
[08:21] <bloobjib> pawan: unzip the .tar.gz, read the INSTALL file inside
[08:21] <jetscreamer> i also have dual controllers
[08:21] <bloobjib> it will tell you to configure, make, make install in a gnome-terminal
[08:21] <roachmmflhyr> Daveyboy: apt-get install php5 works fine for me
[08:21] <bloobjib> do that, it'll be easy
[08:21] <xtknight> jetscreamer, panfist is a bug filed then?
[08:21] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: then you downloaded the i386 iso right ?
[08:21] <jetscreamer> i could be wrong about ya'll's bug though
[08:21] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: athlon 64 or 32 ?
[08:21] <keenen> My ubuntu does not boot back up after stand by
[08:21] <flam> hi
[08:21] <asim> i am having problems running .wmv streaming on firefox
[08:21] <panfist> jetscreamer i am having trouble with both the regular and alternate media, is this bug supposed to apply to both?
[08:22] <asim> what should i do?
[08:22] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: if you have amd 64 you need another iso
[08:22] <bloobjib> how do I get the desk switching window to display the desks in a 2x2 square instead of a 1x4 line? it works fine when I have the panel applet loaded in, but once I turn off the panel applet it goes back to 1x4
[08:22] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> athlon 64 juano__ and yes i downloaded the i386
[08:22] <asim> i have all the players installed
[08:22] <Lunis> rebooting to see if it worked
[08:22] <asim> totem mplayer vlc
[08:22] <xdfhd> I'm thinking of making the switch from windows -> ubuntu.  I downloaded 7.04 iso and burned it as a bootable disk with nero.  Well, when I restart, instead of booting from the cd, i wind up going to a caldera dr-dos command prompt; i have also tried 6.06 with the same results; any suggestions will be most appreciated
[08:22] <asim> can anyone help?
[08:22] <panfist> i can get into a shell from the ubuntu install menu, it says i can run a bash clone and type exit to get back into the installer
[08:22] <warlocky> I kinda messed up my php.ini file (for php5) and my webserver aint working now, is there a way to get your orginal php.ini file back?
[08:22] <jetscreamer> panfist: this bug applies to kernels >2.6.14+udev ... i haven't checked out the livecd with it
[08:22] <keenen> My ubuntu does not boot back up after stand by
[08:22] <bulmer> what applications is Avahi really used for? multicast what services? in a private subnetwork? is it replacing a older feature?
[08:23] <jetscreamer> --force-conf-miss
[08:23] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: if its athlon 64 you need the x86_64
[08:23] <Daveyboy> xdfhd: you need to change your boot order in the BIOS
[08:23] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ok
[08:23] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: not the i386
[08:23] <jetscreamer> err --force-confmiss
[08:23] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> my cpu is athlon 64x2
[08:23] <xdfhd> it boots from cd before HD
[08:23] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: this can be the problem
[08:23] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> so i need the x86_64
[08:23] <Daveyboy> xdfhd: to cdrom first
[08:23] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: yes
[08:23] <keenen> My ubuntu does not boot back up after stand by?
[08:23] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> thnx
[08:23] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: yw
[08:24] <Flannel> warlocky: remove (with --purge) libapache2-mod-php5 and then reinstall it
[08:24] <pawan> how to change directory to pidgin
[08:24] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: in www.ubuntu.com, select download now feisty and then select 64 AMD or Intel computer
[08:24] <warlocky> Flannel, problem is that my sources.list aint working, I can't apt-get update - I only get errors, it has worked before
[08:24] <xtknight> juano__, all x86_64 architectures support i386!
[08:24] <Daveyboy> xdfhd: have you tried from other computer?
[08:24] <Flannel> warlocky: Well, lets address that issue then.  What errors do you get?
[08:24] <xtknight> in fact, 32-bit is the recommendation for new ubuntu users :)
[08:24] <xdfhd> 1 sec
[08:25] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, i hope you read that i386 is fine
[08:25] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> yes
[08:25] <juano__> xtknight: ahh ok
[08:25] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> so whats the problem?
[08:25] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, well, 64bit will give you a little more trouble
[08:25] <juano__> xtknight: well since it didnt boot thought it could be related to that issue
[08:25] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, with things like Flash, media player codecs
[08:25] <xtknight> juano__, oh i didn't know that
[08:25] <warlocky> Flannel, tons of errors - the links doesnt seem to work. I googled it up, and others seems to have the same problem
[08:25] <bloobjib> Does anyone know how to put the desk switcher in a 2x2 grid without using the panel applet?
[08:25] <tetonca> bloobjib that's the 'pager' (2x2 v 1x4)
[08:25] <xtknight> juano__, probably not though.
[08:25] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, what's the problem again ?
[08:25] <Flannel> warlocky: pastebin the errors
[08:25] <warlocky> ?pastebin
[08:25] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> i downloaded the iso from the site , burned it and when it loads i selece start or install ubuntu... then it says loading linux kernel and then a black screen and nothing else.... can someone help me?
[08:26] <warlocky> can you link me to a pastebin website
[08:26] <jetscreamer> !paste
[08:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:26] <bloobjib> tetonca: the name of the switcher, you mean?
[08:26] <juano__> xtknight: problem at live cd... black screen
[08:26] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, did you try waiting roughly 10-15mins after that blank screen?  it could be usplash not detecting your monitor correctly, and not displaying a splash screen
[08:26] <jetscreamer> heh
[08:26] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, that doesn't mean ubuntu won't work on your pc.  in this case you should try the Alternate cd Instead
[08:26] <xtknight> !alternate | kathe_ti_pou_ana
[08:26] <ubotu> kathe_ti_pou_ana: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[08:26] <jetscreamer> hit f6 take off splash & quiet, add vga=normal
[08:27] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, the alternate CD allows you to install it using text -mode instead
[08:27] <panfist> so what do you do if neither the live cd nor the alternate cd work :(
[08:27] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> the alternate cd has the same things as the other cd?
[08:27] <jetscreamer> see also xmodule xvrefresh et al
[08:27] <warlocky> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30755/
[08:27] <rryan> Anyone know how I could map Super_R + '1' to Up ?
[08:27] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: video card ?
[08:27] <jetscreamer> !info xmodmap
[08:27] <ubotu> xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB
[08:27] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, exactly yea
[08:27] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, it installs the same thing
[08:27] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> sapphire pci-e x1600 pro
[08:27] <Daveyboy> I need to install php5 from source becuase there maybe a problem with the package install via apt-get. I downloaded and installed with checkinstall but my phpinfo page in apache2 shows vesion 5.1.2 where as my cli version shows 5.2.3, I need them to both be 5.2.3, any suggestions?
[08:27] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> sapphire pci-e x1600 pro juano__
[08:27] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, instead, you must use a text-mode installer to do it.  available here under Alternate, x86.  good luck: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[08:27] <jetscreamer> you 'probably' need fglrx for support
[08:28] <rryan> jetscreamer : I know how to use xmodmap to map a key to another key.. but can it definitely map key combinations to a key ?
[08:28] <bloobjib> tetonca: i've no idea what you mean with 'pager' :)
[08:28] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: do you have windows and it works fine there ?
[08:28] <warlocky> Flannel: and this is my sources.list -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30756/
[08:28] <juano__> or another OS ?
[08:28] <jetscreamer> rryan: not sure :/ sowwy
[08:28] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> the video card?
[08:28] <NaNO2x> is there a good way to switch from evolution to thunderbird as evolution for some reason is packaged with firefox on ubuntu.
[08:28] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: yep
[08:28] <Flannel> warlocky: Ah.  You're using breezy.  Try switching back to the ubuntu repos, although I don't know if breezy repos are up anymore.  Breezy EOL was a few months ago
[08:28] <xtknight> NaNO2x, just set your preffered applications
[08:28] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> yes it works fine
[08:28] <jetscreamer> NaNO2x: apt-get install thunderbird
[08:28] <Flannel> warlocky: you really ought to upgrade
[08:28] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: thinking it could be a BIOS issue
[08:28] <warlocky> I don
[08:28] <NaNO2x> but how do you set preffered apps, haven't had experience with that
[08:29] <rryan> jetscreamer  : np :)  I've been screwing with xmodmap for a bit now but can't seem to get it right.. was just wondering if anyone could confirm that you could use it to map combinations
[08:29] <warlocky> I don't want to upgrade atm - as I don't want to risk crashing my server right now
[08:29] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: but if you have an onboard video then it should at first grab that
[08:29] <bloobjib> NaNO2x: right click > properties > open with
[08:29] <xtknight> NaNO2x, system->admin->preffered apps
[08:29] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> should i download ubuntu feisty fawn or from www.ubuntu.com or its the same?
[08:29] <bloobjib> oh
[08:29] <bloobjib> what xtknight
[08:29] <bloobjib> said
[08:29] <xtknight> NaNO2x, system->prefs->Preferred apps, actually
[08:29] <xdfhd> daveyboy; yes, I get the same problem on a different machine
[08:29] <keenen> My ubuntu does not boot back up after stand by?
[08:29] <juano__> kathe_ti_pou_ana: i recommend from www.ubuntu.com
[08:29] <tetonca> bloobjib: the quasi-official term for that mechanism is the 'pager' under X11.  fvwm2 has one and it's more obvious there how to manipulate it.  I think in your case the panel applet is 'swallowing the pager' when present, and the pager reverts to its 'natural geometry' .. this is about the /geometry/ of the /pager/ under X11.
[08:30] <Flannel> warlocky: Erm, you also shouldn't have those hoary errors.  Especially since they're not in your sources.list, you must have those in some other place.
[08:30] <keenen> My ubuntu does not boot back up after stand by?
[08:30] <Flannel> warlocky: but, that's the reason you can't upgrade any, because I don't think those repos are open anymore
[08:30] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> if its a bios prob what should i do?
[08:30] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, do you mean, can you download from releases.ubuntu.com?  it's fine from there.
[08:30] <NaNO2x> thanks
[08:30] <xdfhd> is there anything i need to type in the command prompt or should ubuntu fire up
[08:30] <warlocky> hmm, alright - I guess I have to re-install the whole server then?
[08:30] <keenen> I just get errors when i try to boot ubuntu form stand by
[08:30] <bloobjib> tetonca: right, following you now :) when I think of a pager in nix I think of the text file viewer (such as 'pager' on ubuntu)
[08:30] <Lunis> xtknight: fyi, custom modeline, noddc, disableedid, still no luck. this doesn't make sense, I've done this before, in gentoo no less, but I can't figure it out now :<
[08:30] <juano__> ahh kathe_ti_pou_ana yes , download from the link xtknight gave you
[08:30] <warlocky> I just want my php.ini file back, that's all -- and its soo urgent and important for me to get it back aswell.
[08:31] <xtknight> Lunis, i'd be able to help you but it'd have to be tomorrow, sadly as i'm tired as heck
[08:31] <bloobjib> tetonca: most importantly though, have any idea how to fix that? ;] 
[08:31] <alecwh> I'm trying to get Remote SSH working. Can someone guide me through it? I have a desktop and a laptop, and I want to CONTROL my desktop with my laptop.
[08:31] <hamadooo> i need a site for ubuntu thems ??
[08:31] <jetscreamer> kathe_ti_pou_ana: make sure your vidcard is supported in xorg with the installer,, you could do text mode at least?
[08:31] <Lunis> xtknight: no worries mate, just letting you know my status :)
[08:31] <xtknight> Lunis, or maybe i wouldnt.  that sounds kind of odd
[08:31] <jetscreamer> warlocky: i told you how?
[08:31] <warlocky> I didn't notice jetscreamer, how?
[08:31] <xtknight> Lunis, yea i always cant stand when i dont finish my jobs though :p
[08:31] <jetscreamer> man dpkg --force-help
[08:31] <NaNO2x> umm apt-get isnt finding thunderbird
[08:31] <bloobjib> xtknight: cron it
[08:31] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ill try...
[08:31] <tetonca> bloob: both are correct.  $PAGER in a terminal (completely different idea there) and 'the pager' in X11 (desktop switcher function) .. in X11 it's part of the topology of the desktop metaphor.  It has a /geometry/ tho so that's the rub here.
[08:31] <jetscreamer> --force-confmiss
[08:31] <xtknight> !info mozilla-thunderbird | NaNO2x
[08:31] <ubotu> nano2x: mozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.12-0ubuntu0.7.04 (feisty), package size 10638 kB, installed size 29708 kB
[08:31] <Flannel> warlocky: I'm not sure it's going to be possible.  Check your package cache (/var/cache/apt/ and see if libapache2-mod-php5 is in there.  Although, oddly enough, I can't figure out which package contains it (even though I have it on my system right now)
[08:32] <NaNO2x> thanks
[08:32] <xtknight> bloobjib, good idea
[08:32] <hamadooo> i need a site for ubuntu thems ????
[08:32] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> but from releases.ubuntu.com i download the x86 version or 64bit? cause i have athlon64
[08:32] <Lunis> xtknight: i understand that one. my problem stems completely from the fact that i don't have a working cd drive and had to install originally in vmware :x
[08:32] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, x86 should be the first one you try
[08:32] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> why?
[08:32] <rathel> How would I download pictures using a specific file name from a website using wget?
[08:32] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, it's less trouble if you're new to Ubuntu
[08:32] <warlocky> nope, its not there - does anyone run ubuntu (5.10>) who can send me the php.ini file for php5? would be soo appreciated.
[08:32] <Lunis> hamadooo: assuming you're still using Gnome, which is the ubuntu default, just look for Gnome Themes in google.
[08:32] <jetscreamer>  <dpkg> the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted.  You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>
[08:32] <xtknight> rathel, wget <URLtoFILEname>
[08:32] <xtknight> ?
[08:32] <bloobjib> tetonca: http://bardolph.ling.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/dwww?type=runman&location=Pager/1x seems to agree with you ;P
[08:33] <jetscreamer> warlocky: ^^^
[08:33] <Daveyboy> xdfhd: what architecture version did you burn?
[08:33] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> if i download the 64bit version the is 32-bit code supported?
[08:33] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, yes, it is
[08:33] <jetscreamer> yes
[08:33] <rathel> xtknight, I meant a group of pictures.
[08:33] <warlocky> jetscreamer: do you have it? :(
[08:33] <hamadooo> ok linus thanx
[08:33] <xtknight> rathel, a group of pictures, specified in which format?
[08:33] <xtknight> rathel, just a long list of them, perhaps?
[08:33] <jetscreamer> but with nvidia at least(not sure about ati) 64bit kernel and 32bit userland doesn't work out too well
[08:34] <keenen> I need help!
[08:34] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> and what kind of problems will i have if i download the 64bit version?
[08:34] <jetscreamer> warlocky: try scrolling up or doing /lastlog jetscreamer
[08:34] <xdfhd> daveyboy; standard pc
[08:34] <rathel> xtknight, jpg Say I wanna dowload a bunch of pictures for my resolution I can't do <websiteurl>/*1440x900.jpg
[08:34] <jetscreamer> about 3-5 lines above warlocky^^^
[08:34] <Flannel> warlocky: check /usr/share/php5/ there might be a copy of it there
[08:34] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, you won't be able to use Macromedia Flash as easily, some custom programs won't work
[08:34] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, Windows media won't play.
[08:34] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ok
[08:34] <xtknight> well it will, but not WMV9 or windows media audio, making it useless
[08:35] <tetonca> bloobjib: the problem is that the WM generally implements the pager in X11. Not all WM implement it.
[08:35] <jetscreamer> you sure mplayer won't do it?
[08:35] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> but it will stil have a good performance with my dual core cpu? (the x86 version i mean)
[08:35] <xtknight> jetscreamer, ya mplayer does wmv9 from svn now.  but no WMA3
[08:35] <Flannel> warlocky: actually yes, I think that's where it comes from, which is why it's not in the dpkg cache.  That file should be what you're looking for
[08:35] <warlocky> yeah, I think thats the copy :)
[08:35] <jetscreamer> and/or avifile et al
[08:35] <Daveyboy> xdfhd: i386?
[08:35] <warlocky> let me check
[08:35] <xdfhd> yes
[08:35] <bloobjib> tetonca: I can change it by using the panel applet though
[08:35] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, perhaps even better performance.  it goes both ways really
[08:35] <jetscreamer> sheesh
[08:35] <tetonca> bloobjjib: so you can't simply 'exec /usr/X11R6/bin/pager --option'.
[08:35] <alecwh> When I try to connect to my desktop via SSH, I get this error: ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.5 port 22: Connection refused. What does this error mean? How can I fix it? I generated a key, and then tried it.
[08:35] <bloobjib> tetonca: but once I remove the applet from panel again (because I don't want no stinkin' icon) it reverts back
[08:35] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, sometimes 32bit is faster, sometimes 64bit is faster.
[08:35] <tetonca> bloobjib: you have to dissect what GNOME did to launch a pager.
[08:36] <Flannel> alecwh: is your desktop 192.168.0.5?
[08:36] <bloobjib> if the panel applet can change it, surely I can without the panel as well? :/
[08:36] <alecwh> Flannel, yes.
[08:36] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ok... so i download the alternate cd x86 version from releases.ubuntu.com?
[08:36] <Daveyboy> xdfhd: and what kind of cpu do you have?
[08:36] <xtknight> kathe_ti_pou_ana, yea
[08:36] <Flannel> alecwh: and your desktop has openssh-server running?
[08:36] <jetscreamer> try |less
[08:36] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> thnx i ll try it
[08:36] <tetonca> bloobjib: not certain! hehe. But maybe. If it's a task in the process table then surely.
[08:36] <xdfhd> both will autoplay when I explore the cd, so I assume they're burned without corruption
[08:36] <alecwh> Flannel, I... don't know.
[08:36] <smoenux> compiz and AWN wont get out of Startup apps in sessions. I remove them, but for some reason they still start when I log in :(
[08:36] <Flannel> alecwh: well, that's your problem.  You can't connect to a non-existant server.  No key generation is necessary, just install openssh-server
[08:36] <alecwh> Flannel, how can I enable it?
[08:37] <warlocky> oh my god, thank you so much Flannel.
[08:37] <tetonca> bloobjib: look at it this way: the 1x4 indicates /that/ has a geometry. Change /that/.
[08:37] <warlocky> You've saved my day, definately!
[08:37] <jetscreamer> save your session w/o them being loaded
[08:37] <bloobjib> tetonca: i wish i even had half an idea where to start though :/
[08:37] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> is there a guide on the net on how to install ubuntu using the alternate cd?
[08:37] <alecwh> Flannel, after this is installed, will it work?
[08:37] <Flannel> warlocky: You really should schedule some downtime and upgrade to dapper though.  I took the plunge in february, since I didn't want to cut it too close.
[08:37] <warlocky> Phew, Though I was toast there for a while :- )
[08:37] <Flannel> alecwh: yes
[08:37] <bloobjib> lol yea, it's out there! but how to find, I doubt it'll come looking for me ;(
[08:37] <smoenux> jetscreamer: will try that... I think I did before, but I might have done it wrong or something
[08:37] <Flannel> kathe_ti_pou_ana: It's the same as installing with the desktop.  Same questions same answers, etc.
[08:37] <tetonca> bloobjib: I think it's under etc.
[08:38] <warlocky> Flannel: It's just a dev server anyways, I'm gonna run debian sarge in the future -- and I cannot access this server if it crashes, I can but I don't want to (kinda hard to explain the situtation im in)
[08:38] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> but its text-based?
[08:38] <warlocky> And I run game servers, and dapper is shit when it comes ot game servers
[08:38] <jetscreamer> sarge? sarge is oldstable
[08:38] <xdEad> algum brasileiro?
[08:38] <jetscreamer> !br
[08:38] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:38] <alecwh> Flannel, it's asking me for the password for "root@192.168.0.5". As far as I know, I don't have a password for root...
[08:38] <warlocky> well, I think it's called debian sarge, kinda forgot what I was running for before
[08:38] <Flannel> alecwh: Why are you using the root account on your local box?
[08:38] <Daveyboy> I need to install php5 from source becuase there maybe a problem with the package install via apt-get. I downloaded and installed with checkinstall but my phpinfo page in apache2 shows vesion 5.1.2 where as my cli version shows 5.2.3, I need them to both be 5.2.3, any suggestions?
[08:38] <jetscreamer> etch is the latest stable in debian warlocky ... used to be sarge
[08:39] <alecwh> Flannel, I'm not. I'm not using root on either machine.
[08:39] <alecwh> :P
[08:39] <Flannel> kathe_ti_pou_ana: Right, but it's a text-gui, instead of using th emouse to click buttons, you use the arrow keys and enter.
[08:39] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ok
[08:39] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> thnx
[08:39] <alecwh> root@192.168.0.5's password:
[08:39] <alecwh> Permission denied, please try again.
[08:39] <alecwh> root@192.168.0.5's password:
[08:39] <alecwh> Permission denied, please try again.
[08:39] <alecwh> root@192.168.0.5's password:
[08:39] <alecwh> Permission denied (publickey,password).
[08:39] <xdfhd> AMD athlon XP 2400+ with 2.0 GHz & 480 MB RAM
[08:39] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ill try the alternate version
[08:39] <Flannel> alecwh: did you use sudo ssh or something?
[08:39] <tetonca> alecwh: 'passwd root'
[08:39] <Keen> HEY GUYS!
[08:39] <warlocky> jetscreamer: Yeah, etch is what I meant :-)
[08:39] <Flannel> tetonca: no.  Please don't recommend that here.  There's no reason for anyone to have a root password.
[08:39] <tetonca> alecwh: 'sudo passwd root'
[08:40] <alecwh> on which machine, tetonca?
[08:40] <Flannel> alecwh: neither.
[08:40] <Flannel> alecwh: what command are you using to connect?
[08:40] <alecwh> alec@aleclaptop:~$ ssh alecwh@192.168.0.5
[08:40] <alecwh> Flannel
[08:40] <tetonca> Oh well the culture police forbid it.
[08:41] <alecwh> Flannel, I'm so confused, what am I supposed to do?
[08:41] <Flannel> alecwh: and that prompts you for roots password?  Is your desktop running ubuntu?  That's very odd, since (besides not having root enabled) ssh defaults to not allowing root login.
[08:41] <alecwh> no, let me post the whole log
[08:41] <Flannel> alecwh: pastebin it
[08:42] <jetscreamer> ssh doesn't let root log in? must be an ubuntu thing
[08:42] <Keen> There was a loud boom down stairs and i looked down there and i didn't see a thing
[08:42] <tetonca> heh.
[08:42] <alecwh> !topic
[08:42] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[08:43] <kidbuntu> !java
[08:43] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:43] <alecwh> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30757/
[08:44] <Flannel> alecwh: well, of course it's asking for roots password, thats who you're trying to connect as.  Connect as yourself, and you'll be fine (or whatever username you have on that box)
[08:44] <ectospasm> anyone know what version of the nvidia kernel module x86_64 Ubuntu has?
[08:45] <pawan> hwllo
[08:46] <tetonca> alecwh: the most common reason to ssh in as root is to use it in conjunction with a scripted rsync to grab every file off the remote system.  Best if neither is connected to the Internet (only to each other via the LAN) when doing so. ;)
[08:46] <alecwh> Flannel, that worked!
[08:46] <defrysk> ectospasm,  apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[08:46] <tetonca> not most common but 'a' common reason.
[08:46] <alecwh> tetonca, thanks too!
[08:47] <bloobjib> hm, here's a perhaps odd thought
[08:47] <alecwh> Flannel, how can I open GUI programs via SSH? (I want to open up the GUI on the comp I'm controlling)
[08:47] <tetonca> Simply transcends usual permission gates to file access in that one mode.
[08:47] <bloobjib> is there a way to access the preferences window of the workspace switcher panel applet without having the applet enabled?
[08:47] <Keen> Is there a google ubuntu themed google search?
[08:48] <Flannel> alecwh: this is all through the LAN?
[08:48] <alecwh> yes
[08:48] <Flannel> alecwh: you might be better off using XDMCP
[08:48] <tetonca> bloobjib I'd backdoor it and edit the underlying text file.  Not sure if it'd present in the GUI tool.
[08:48] <Keen> :(
[08:48] <bloobjib> tetonca: yea, but what's the underlying text file? ;P
[08:48] <bloobjib> I really suck at finding stuff
[08:48] <corevette> what deoes a creative commons liscence claim?
[08:48] <tetonca> bloobjib: surf.  grep!
[08:48] <corevette> can i claim someone elses work for mine?
[08:48] <bloobjib> I was kind of hoping to get into the preferences window because I don't know what to edit :o
[08:48] <jetscreamer> gconf probably bloobjib
[08:48] <Flannel> corevette: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[08:48] <jetscreamer> gconf-editor
[08:48] <strent> alecwh: Isn't there an -X parameter to SSH?
[08:49] <bloobjib> would it really be as simple as gconf? :/
[08:49] <tetonca> bloobjib: 'grep -i' is your friend.
[08:49] <jetscreamer> !info gconf-editor
[08:49] <ubotu> gconf-editor: An editor for the GConf configuration system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 294 kB, installed size 1996 kB
[08:49] <alecwh> what do you mean, Flannel?
[08:49] <bloobjib> let me check gconf, then grep!
[08:49] <bloobjib> brb, ty
[08:49] <Flannel> alecwh: XDMCP is something you'd enable on the desktop, and then at your GDM, you'd connect to a remote computer
[08:49] <alecwh> I want to open up GUI programs (like Rythmbox) with my PC. I want to lanuch them ON the remote computer, not on mine
[08:49] <Flannel> alecwh: your other choice is to tunnel X, like strent said
[08:49] <alecwh> like, I want to type "rhythmbox" and have it open rythmbox on the remote pc
[08:50] <alecwh> !tunnel
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tunnel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <alecwh> !xdmc
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdmc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <tetonca> alecwh: you can point $DISPLAY to another machine but there's usually security gates and such.
[08:50] <tetonca> alecwh: the chooser has a thing for that I think.
[08:50] <alecwh> chooser?
[08:51] <jetscreamer> gdm
[08:51] <Daveyboy> I need to install php5 from source becuase there maybe a problem with the package install via apt-get. I downloaded and installed with checkinstall but my phpinfo page in apache2 shows vesion 5.1.2 where as my cli version shows 5.2.3, I need them to both be 5.2.3, any suggestions?
[08:51] <jetscreamer> display manager
[08:51] <tetonca> The chooser is the widget that can present a foreign host to login to, but usually in the chooser you chose a local session.
[08:51] <xdfhd> davey, thanks anyway for trying
[08:51] <xdfhd> to help
[08:51] <varka> alecwh: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/
[08:51] <tetonca> gdm == chooser
[08:52] <Daveyboy> xdfhd:np
[08:52] <alecwh> how does it work?
[08:52] <alecwh> Is it SSH?
[08:52] <tetonca> vnc also good here, yep.
[08:52] <tetonca> alecwh I don't think it's a pipe over ssh, no.  Maybe.   Not sure on that one.
[08:53] <varka> alecwh: it can be tunneled via ssh but its not its default
[08:53] <defrysk> tetonca, gdm = a display manager
[08:53] <alecwh> ok. Well, what good is SSH then? :P
[08:53] <tetonca> defrysk: the older terminology was 'the chooser' iirc.
[08:53] <alecwh> I can't really do anything....
[08:53] <defrysk> tetonca, never heard of it
[08:53] <varka> alecwh: you can do everything what is called "administrative tasks"
[08:54] <tetonca> I'm a little behind on my terminologies. ;)
[08:54] <Flannel> alecwh: You can do anything on the command line without anything additional
[08:54] <jetscreamer> The Chooser -  spinoff from The Closer
[08:54] <alecwh> Flannel, what is the music player that plays IN the terminal?
[08:54] <jetscreamer> !info cplay
[08:54] <ubotu> cplay: A front-end for various audio players. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.49-10 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 232 kB
[08:54] <alecwh> Can I turn it off? reboot? reboot apache?
[08:54] <Flannel> alecwh: There's a few.  You'e probably thinking of mpd in conjunction with ncmpc
[08:55] <Flannel> alecwh: Of course
[08:55] <bloobjib> I found it in gconf-editor, and feel like a tool for not having looked there first
[08:55] <bloobjib> thanks a lot jetscreamer and tetonca
[08:55] <alecwh> http://polishlinux.org/apps/ssh-tricks/#
[08:55] <bloobjib> /apps/panel/applets/applet_2/prefs/num_rows for the record :P
[08:55] <AnAnt> Hello, I just got an HP dv6391 laptop
[08:55] <Flannel> alecwh: you can do anything and everything that doesn't require a GUI
[08:56] <alecwh> what is the command for restarting Apache?
[08:56] <AnAnt> Ubuntu always crashes on it
[08:56] <tetonca> bloobjib: I kinda thot it was there all along. ;)
[08:56] <Flannel> alecwh: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart, although that might be different with upstart
[08:56] <poningru> Flannel: no its the same
[08:56] <bloobjib> it's not uncommon I forget to check the obvious routes
[08:56] <AnAnt> I get this message at boot: PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6: 20000@e000000 for 0000:05:00.0
[08:57] <poningru> AnAnt: hmm can you bootup a live cd?
[08:57] <vas> alright I know this is kinda an ubuntu sever question.. BUT NO ONE IS EVER THERE... so please don't just redirect me to there... thnx... Anyways: I need to change the host name (Netbios) name for my server... what files would I edit to do that (and what commands should I run if any)
[08:57] <tetonca> bloobjib: I've used so many different WM's they're all a blur .. features cross over in my recollections of them.
[08:57] <AnAnt> also it sometimes crashes during boot at the "Loading hardware driver..."
[08:57] <AnAnt> poningru: no
[08:57] <poningru> vas: change localhost in /etc/hosts and then do 'sudo hostname Newhostname'
[08:57] <AnAnt> and sometimes I get this message when it crashes: error receive uevent message: No buffer space available
[08:58] <sport> what the recominded partition for a server that will be sharing many files
[08:58] <poningru> right that makes sense
[08:58] <alecwh> cool. :0
[08:58] <sport> what the recommended partition for a server that will be sharing many files*
[08:58] <AnAnt> so can anyone help  ?
[08:58] <vas> poningru: THNX
[08:58] <poningru> AnAnt: sorry what was the model number again?
[08:58] <tetonca> vas: /bin/cat /etc/hostname maybe for starters.
[08:58] <AnAnt> poningru: HP dv6391 running on a AMD Turion X2
[08:58] <poningru> hold onlooking
[08:58] <Flannel> poningru: er, isn't netbios done entirely through samba?
[08:59] <Flannel> !hostname | poningru, vas
[08:59] <ubotu> poningru, vas: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[08:59] <poningru> Flannel: gets it from /etc/hosts
[08:59] <poningru> so if you restart samba
[08:59] <poningru> it will work
[08:59] <Flannel> poningru: Ah, good to know
[08:59] <poningru> err it should
[08:59] <bloobjib> now for the big test
[08:59] <AnAnt> poningru: I had to remove /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm to get ubuntu to "sometimes" load
[08:59] <bloobjib> to see if the setting survives a reboot :] 
[08:59] <vas> whre do I edit in /etc/hosts
[09:00] <poningru> vas: localhost
[09:00] <poningru> change that to whatever
[09:00] <AnAnt> poningru: and sometimes it craches  during "Setting up console font and keymap"
[09:00] <jetscreamer> you can just chmod -x it
[09:00] <jetscreamer> no need to rm/mv
[09:00] <JASenpai> hmmm , hello.
[09:00] <JASenpai> i need some help....
[09:01] <vas> in /etc/hosts there are three colums, which do I change
[09:01] <jetscreamer> !ask
[09:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:01] <alecwh> Flannel, sorry, does that SSH server demaon launch on startup?
[09:01] <vas> in teh first line which is local host
[09:01] <strent> vas: Netbios? Are you running samba?
[09:01] <Flannel> alecwh: it does, like most everything
[09:01] <vas> strent: I am in the process
[09:01] <poningru> vas: change the 'localhost' to whatever the hostname is
[09:01] <vas> strent: of setting it up, so where would I change it so samba follows (I already did /etc/samba/smb.config)
[09:01] <strent> vas: Then you might not need to change your hostname, but to set up samba correctly?
[09:02] <vas> poningru: in the second column yes
[09:02] <vas> strent: ?
[09:02] <AnAnt> poningru: why did you ask about the model ?
[09:02] <poningru> AnAnt: to google it
[09:02] <jetscreamer> it's easy to browse to a windows box, but not as easy to let the winbox browse you
[09:03] <strent> vas: hostname: linux server name for linux machines - netbios name in samba for Windows machins.
[09:03] <poningru> ah here we go
[09:03] <AnAnt> it's like I've bought a piece of junk !
[09:03] <JASenpai> well, after i install some program , the pc freezes, with this message on terminal : Setting up ttf-opensymbol (2.2.0-1ubuntu4) ...
[09:03] <JASenpai> Updating fontconfig cache...
[09:03] <poningru> vas: you have to change it in lmhosts as well
[09:03] <poningru> http://linux.die.net/man/5/lmhosts
[09:03] <vas> strentL yes I have samba, and it is configured
[09:03] <JASenpai> and after that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30748/plain/
[09:03] <strent> vas: At least I think so. Please correct me if I'm wrong.  ;)
[09:03] <poningru> vas: changing it in /etc/hosts is not enough go to /etc/samba
[09:03] <poningru> and edit lmhosts
[09:04] <strent> Thanks, poningru
[09:04] <vas> I do not have the lmhosts file in etc/samba like it says it should be
[09:05] <file13> hello?
[09:05] <jetscreamer> goodbye
[09:05] <eboyjr> file13: hi ;)
[09:05] <JASenpai> any idea?
[09:05] <file13> hi, got a question real quick that ive been working on
[09:05] <tetonca> JASenpai: it's trying to install a truetype font.
[09:06] <tetonca> Those other packages probably want that font package before they will happily install.
[09:06] <obf213> is there a karamba or widget app for gnome
[09:06] <jetscreamer> remove ttf-opensymbol maybe
[09:06] <file13> i followed the instructions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 trying to get my sound to work
[09:06] <jetscreamer> unless oo depends on it
[09:06] <Toma-> Does anyone know at what point the rc.local file is executed in the boot process?
[09:06] <file13> and it works now, but now my sound gets little cracks and pops
[09:06] <jetscreamer> at the end
[09:06] <Ademan> anyone here used the gaphor package?
[09:07] <jetscreamer> ls /etc/rc2.S
[09:07] <jetscreamer> the S99 gives clues
[09:07] <pawan> how to install java plugin for ubuntu
[09:07] <jetscreamer> oops rc2.d not s
[09:07] <Toma-> ahh thx
[09:08] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search java | grep plugin,, apt-get install it
[09:08] <poningru> JASenpai: looking
[09:09] <JASenpai> k
[09:09] <poningru> JASenpai: go to synaptic and do a repair package from file
[09:09] <poningru> or something like that
[09:09] <poningru> if that doesnt do anythign
[09:09] <file13> does anyone have any idea about the audio issue
[09:09] <JASenpai> from    ttf-opensymbol?
[09:09] <poningru> no from synaptic
[09:09] <poningru> go to synaptic
[09:09] <JASenpai> yep
[09:09] <poningru> system->admin->synaptic
[09:09] <poningru> now go to file and do a repair
[09:09] <jetscreamer> dpkg --purge ttf-opensymbol
[09:09] <obf213> what is the widget packet called for gnome
[09:10] <poningru> it should find and fix all broken packages
[09:10] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search gnome|grep widget
[09:10] <jetscreamer> see also apt-get -f install
[09:10] <ectospasm> how do I disable agpgart backend drivers for 2.6 kernels, the Ubuntu way?  I could just delete the .ko files (assuming I could find them), but I'm wondering if there's a better way...
[09:11] <Toma-> ectospasm: blacklist them
[09:11] <Toma-> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:11] <poningru> AnAnt: still looking
[09:11] <TiMiDo> !flash
[09:11] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:12] <ectospasm> Toma-:  thanks
[09:12] <Toma-> np
[09:12] <file13> followed the instrucns here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 but now im getting cracks and pops in the audio
[09:12] <ComputinChuck> is there a plugin for xine that handles real media video?
[09:12] <frankg> Can someone tell me why my "3 steps to passwordless ssh remote login" does not work --> http://scsys.co.uk:8001/8658
[09:12] <AnAnt> poningru: thanks
[09:13] <JASenpai> jetscreamer Removing ttf-opensymbol ...
[09:13] <JASenpai> Updating fontconfig cache...
[09:13] <JASenpai> Bus error (core dumped)
[09:13] <JASenpai> dpkg: error processing ttf-opensymbol (--purge):
[09:13] <JASenpai>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 135
[09:13] <JASenpai> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:13] <JASenpai>  ttf-opensymbol
[09:13] <JASenpai> ups.
[09:13] <jetscreamer> zomg
[09:14] <SpiderDan> hello!  how does one make a particular program start on bootup?
[09:14] <Flannel> !bum | SpiderDan
[09:14] <ubotu> SpiderDan: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:14] <tetonca> frankg: probably just a typo in there.
[09:14] <frankg> tetonca, does it look logical?
[09:14] <tetonca> frank: it's essentially correct as-is.
[09:14] <frankg> tetonca, but it's not working for me
[09:14] <file13> does anyone have an idea twords the audio problem
[09:14] <Kjellviz> are there any option to stop (k)ubuntu from sending sound to pc-speaker on errors ?
[09:14] <tetonca> Just type in the path when you generate the key.  Name it uniquely.
[09:14] <jetscreamer> JASenpai: if it was me, i'd try finding an older package, and installing it, --force-all if necessary, then put it on hold and wait for a fixed version
[09:15] <jetscreamer> !ubo
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <jetscreamer> heh
[09:15] <jetscreamer> worth a shot
[09:15] <frankg> tetonca, I'll try again
[09:15] <poningru> JASenpai: gaah did you try synaptic way?
[09:15] <JASenpai> yep
[09:15] <SpiderDan> thank you
[09:15] <jetscreamer> packages.ubuntu.org probably
[09:15] <jafnoob> how do I get rid of all these glue marks from the windows removed stickers?
[09:15] <Wicked|KM> Hey guys, have a bit of an issue, while installing, I accidentally used my whole disc, removing everything that I was going to move over after installation (whoops). Any suggestions on how to get this lost data back?
[09:15] <JASenpai> but nothing to fix,
[09:15] <tetonca> jafnoob: kero
[09:15] <jetscreamer> jafnoob: acetone
[09:16] <JASenpai> now i have oo core broken
[09:16] <poningru> nail polish
[09:16] <defrysk> jafnoob, perfumed oil
[09:16] <poningru> JASenpai: its under edit
[09:16] <jetscreamer> JASenpai: apt-get install --reinstall ttf-openblah
[09:16] <ectospasm> if I pass agp=off to a loading kernel on boot and still load the kernel module, which wins?
[09:16] <jafnoob> acetone?!
[09:17] <JASenpai> i just tried to reinstall buti get this
[09:17] <tetonca> frankg: maybe dsa not rsa, also.  and edit ~/.ssh/config
[09:17] <JASenpai> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30748/plain/
[09:17] <frankg> tetonca, I don't have a ~/.ssh/config
[09:18] <obf213> !widgets
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widgets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <strent> Wicked|KM: There are companies recovering overwritten data - for a good part of money.
[09:18] <JASenpai> and this
[09:18] <tetonca> frankg: they're good to have handy (.ssh/config file).  Makes things easier when you try to login from the machine that has the ~/.config file to the one with only ~/.ssh/authorized_keys.
[09:18] <JASenpai> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30759/
[09:18] <Wicked|KM> strent: Any way of recovering the data myself?
[09:18] <Wicked|KM> Preferably for free
[09:18] <tetonca> I meant ~/.ssh/config of course. typo.
[09:19] <strent> Wicked|KM: You need special software for this at least. No, I don't see a way.
[09:19] <Wicked|KM> Damn
[09:20] <frankg> tetonca, sorry, you say that makes it easier but, how is a mystery
[09:20] <Wicked|KM> Oh well, there goes all my files... Thanks anyways :p
[09:20] <Flannel> Wicked|KM: it is possible, it's not difficult per sey.  first thing is to dd the disk to an image file, to safe whatever you still have.
[09:20] <nox-Hand> How do I make apt-get give me Firefox 2.0.0.4 back?
[09:20] <nox-Hand> 2.0.0.5 has bugs!
[09:21] <sotlef> hi all, does somebody installed PhysX_2.7.2_SDK_CoreLinux.deb.tar.gz?
[09:21] <tetonca> frankg: it allows you to skip the command line parameters and just type 'ssh myremotehostname'.
[09:21] <Flannel> Wicked|KM: If you only 'deleted' the partition, and haven't repartitioned any, the data should still all be there, more or less.  The internet will have mor einformation on this.  I've read a few articles on it, although I don't remember many specifics.
[09:21] <Flannel> !pinning | nox-Hand
[09:21] <ubotu> nox-Hand: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[09:21] <poningru> nox-Hand: what bugs?
[09:21] <nox-Hand> poningru: Primarily that Flash fails in 2.0.0.5
[09:21] <Wicked|KM> Yeah, then I'm screwed :p
[09:21] <nox-Hand> Doesn't function
[09:21] <Wicked|KM> Oh well
[09:21] <poningru> nox-Hand: reinstall flash
[09:21] <Wicked|KM> Thanks Flannel
[09:21] <strent> Wicked|KM: To me it sounded like you already had installed over the data, right?
[09:21] <poningru> Wicked|KM: what happened?
[09:21] <nox-Hand> poningru: Attempted, failed
[09:22] <frankg> tetonca, ic, well for now I want to keep the steps to a minimum, but thx
[09:22] <poningru> nox-Hand: did you delete the .flash file from your home folder?
[09:22] <Wicked|KM> strent: not installed, just repartitioned everything :/
[09:22] <nox-Hand> poningru: No sir :D
[09:22] <poningru> Wicked|KM: you can get that back
[09:22] <JASenpai> hmmm
[09:22] <Shoopuf> Will Beryl make my computer run slow? Is it unstable? Is it worth downloading?
[09:22] <strent> Wicked|KM: With formatting?
[09:22] <nox-Hand> poningru: Doesn't exist, either
[09:22] <tetonca> frank: make sure authorized_keys has same text as id_dsa
[09:22] <SpiderDan> is the bum program used to configure program that start upon booting the machine, or upon logging into gnome?
[09:22] <poningru> nox-Hand: .adobe or something
[09:22] <kaushal> Hi
[09:22] <JASenpai> shoopufwith nvidia is a pain in the....
[09:22] <poningru> nox-Hand: .macromedia rather
[09:23] <Flannel> SpiderDan: booting, !startup will give you stuff for on-login activities
[09:23] <sotlef> i have problem with PhysX, maybe somebody can help me
[09:23] <Wicked|KM> Was moving my from windows to linux on my PC, and, for some stupid reason, clicked the wrong button :/
[09:23] <poningru> !beryl | Shoopuf
[09:23] <ubotu> Shoopuf: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:23] <Shoopuf> poningru: #ubuntu-effects - thank you
[09:23] <poningru> Wicked|KM: you can recover your partitions
[09:23] <strent> Wicked|KM: After repartitioning, did you format the new partitions?
[09:23] <poningru> !info gpart
[09:23] <ubotu> gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4.1 (feisty), package size 35 kB, installed size 112 kB
[09:23] <nox-Hand> poningru: Right
[09:24] <nox-Hand> Going to see if I have multiple installs - since it is still here
[09:24] <poningru> nox-Hand: shutdown firefox and any thing else flash is running
[09:24] <poningru> and rm that file
[09:24] <Wicked|KM> Uhm, that partitions are already set up, not sure about formatting, sort of panicked and exited the installation to see if I screwed anything up
[09:24] <poningru> and then start up firefox try running flash
[09:25] <jerbear> every time i suspend my laptop, when i resume, firefox has been killed, any ideas what could be happening?
[09:25] <Catoptromancy> firefox has memleaks
[09:25] <Wicked|KM> It's not memleaks, it's a feature ;)
[09:25] <Catoptromancy> memleaks yet still the best
[09:26] <strent> Wicked|KM: If you didn't format, then gpart should be able to aid you. Otherwise it might be hard.
[09:26] <Wicked|KM> What could I do with gparted?
[09:26] <poningru> Wicked|KM: not gparted
[09:26] <poningru> gpart
[09:26] <Wicked|KM> O.o
[09:26] <poningru> man gpart
[09:26] <Wicked|KM> ok
[09:26] <frankg> tetonca, I've been at it for a long while - frustrating :(
[09:26] <strent> Wicked|KM: gpart can guess your old structure
[09:26] <nox-Hand> Something is really wrong now x|
[09:26] <poningru> you gotta install it first though
[09:26] <Jericho1> Are there any options I can type before I boot to see the loading process (text) instead of just the progress bar?
[09:26] <poningru> nox-Hand: whats wrong?
[09:27] <tetonca> frankg: it'll feel great when it works tho.
[09:27] <strent> Wicked|KM: ...and so restoring your old partitions.
[09:27] <frankg> tetonca, I'll stick it out
[09:27] <nox-Hand> poningru: Well, removed flash, and now flash sorta works
[09:27] <poningru> Jericho1: yeah edit the kernel line and remove quite and splash
[09:27] <Wicked|KM> Great, now gotta figure out how to use it :p
[09:27] <poningru> nn
[09:27] <Jericho1> is that going to be in grub or something else?
[09:27] <tetonca> frankg: this is one of the first things I do when setting up a new machine .. setting up ssh-keygen and xfering hte .pub file to the new box and cat > authorized_keys.
[09:27] <nox-Hand> Like, an animation, "End of Ze World" displays the preloader, which whizzes to the 100% then starts at 0% agaain
[09:28] <poningru> Jericho1: you want it to be permenant?
[09:28] <Jericho1> temp mostly, Its taking a long time at a certain spot on the boot
[09:28] <Jericho1> want to find out why
[09:28] <poningru> Jericho1: right at grub
[09:28] <poningru> hit e
[09:28] <tetonca> frankg: I'd md5 against both copies of the file.
[09:28] <frankg> tetonca, I've read 5 article on it and boiled it down to three steps -- seems easy - as long as you don't have murphy's law on your butt
[09:28] <poningru> and then edit the line that starts with kernel
[09:29] <Jericho1> ok cool, thanks
[09:29] <poningru> ...
[09:29] <tetonca> frankg: you have the steps. ;)
[09:29] <poningru> nox-Hand: how are you 'installing' firefox
[09:29] <poningru> or 'installing' flash
[09:29] <tetonca> let me look at a log of ssh-keygen for sanity check here.
[09:30] <Wicked|KM> gpart isn't getting anything
[09:30] <Wicked|KM> Bah
[09:30] <Wicked|KM> Oh well
[09:30] <frankg> tetonca, ok
[09:30] <Wicked|KM> I'll do what I can, but I've got to go
[09:30] <Wicked|KM> Thanks a lot strent =)
[09:30] <SinisterWays> Hey, Im new to the whole linux thing. Is there anyone who could link me to a realy good tutorial on how to dual boot XP and Ubuntu ?
[09:30] <strent> Wicked|KM: Good luck
[09:30] <tetonca> I use -t dsa
[09:30] <SinisterWays> plzz
[09:30] <Algorithmist> is the InstallShield directory of any use once an application has been installed?
[09:30] <poningru> !dual boot
[09:30] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[09:31] <poningru> SinisterWays: the first link
[09:31] <Algorithmist> in my case - Netbeans 5.5
[09:31] <Algorithmist> ?
[09:31] <poningru> Algorithmist: what?
[09:31] <Wicked|KM> And poningru, and others that helped, but find it unnecessary to tab them
[09:31] <mind-shift> http://code.google.com/p/dcsharp/        How do I get this program?
[09:31] <SinisterWays> awesome
[09:31] <mind-shift> in ubuntu
[09:31] <SinisterWays> thanks
[09:32] <poningru> Algorithmist: what do you mean installshield dir?
[09:32] <tetonca> frank: you're using -t rsa.  That's old school (and Protocol 1) iirc.
[09:32] <Jericho1> is there a easy way to put a clock in the corner (like windows) its the one thing my girlfriend is complaining about before she switches completely
[09:32] <Algorithmist> poningru, not installshield - InstallShield
[09:32] <poningru> Algorithmist: ...
[09:32] <frankg> tetonca, I tried -t dsa on my last attempt
[09:32] <tetonca> frankg: the debconf thing probably asked you if to enable Protocol 2.  If you said no, that'd do it probably.
[09:32] <poningru> wtf is that?
[09:33] <obf213> can you download adobe acrobat reader from repositories?
[09:33] <Algorithmist> it was added during my or before netbeans install
[09:33] <poningru> !alien | mind-shift
[09:33] <ubotu> mind-shift: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:33] <poningru> mind-shift: you can download the rpm package
[09:33] <Algorithmist> poningru, there's a difference
[09:33] <poningru> and then convert it using alien
[09:33] <frankg> tetonca, double checking /etc/...config file
[09:33] <tetonca> frankg: it gives you a short lecture in a text window as to running sshd with or without root suid or somesuch for prot 2 vs prot 1.
[09:34] <tetonca> frankg: probably need to re-setup sshd.
[09:34] <nox-Hand> poningru: apt
[09:34] <obf213> !adobe
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <Algorithmist> the directory name is InstallShield, found within the home directory
[09:34] <frankg> tetonca, looking into it
[09:34] <obf213> !pdf
[09:34] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[09:34] <Algorithmist> f it, I'll just get rid of it
[09:35] <poningru> nox-Hand: ok
[09:35] <poningru> obf213: what are you looking for
[09:35] <poningru> obf213: ubuntu supports opening pdf out of the box
[09:35] <poningru> with evince
[09:35] <jerbear> every time i suspend my laptop, when i resume, firefox has been killed, any ideas what could be happening?
[09:36] <Catoptromancy> firefox has memleaks
[09:36] <tetonca> I've seen this movie before.
[09:36] <Catoptromancy> jerbear, just close firefox and use "history" to go back to where you were
[09:36] <frankg> tetonca, all of a sudden it's working - I don't know why
[09:36] <SinisterWays> There are a few addons that fix the memory leaks though
[09:36] <SinisterWays> like
[09:36] <SinisterWays> TweakPlus
[09:36] <SinisterWays> stuff like that
[09:36] <tetonca> frankg: good.
[09:36] <jerbear> Catoptromancy: that doesn't really solve anything... why would it be killing it?
[09:37] <Catoptromancy> firefox has memleaks
[09:37] <frankg> tetonca, trying to see what I did
[09:37] <nox-Hand> poningru: It has the intelligence capacity of a teaspoon - it autoplays the first segment (chapter, title, whatever) of the flash film. It doesn't continue,and there cannot be right clicked to change anything
[09:38] <frankg> tetonca, the only thing I did was removed the other key from ~/ and set permission on authorized_keys to 600
[09:38] <frankg> maybe it doesn't like loose keys
[09:38] <tetonca> frankg: perms on authkeys are important.
[09:38] <OrgulloKmoore> I need help: I would really like to get my mic working under ubuntu. The trouble is where to test it? I don't test Audacity because I can't even hear sound with it...it's not picking up my sound car apparently and I have multiple sound cards. So I kinda need to play around a bit...
[09:38] <frankg> tetonca, apparently very important
[09:39] <frankg> tetonca, thanks for hanging with me on this!!!
[09:39] <OrgulloKmoore> And do mics need drivers, or are they pretty much like speakers?
[09:39] <MilitantPotato> !howto
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about howto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <tetonca> frankg: well yeah.  if another user comes in and reads authorized_keys -- they can copy it to their home directory then login using your private key if they also acquired that.
[09:39] <frankg> tetonca, right
[09:39] <tetonca> frankg: np
[09:40] <frankg> tetonca++
[09:41] <JASenpai> poningru
[09:41] <tetonca> frankg: so your steps should add #4 'chmod foo' or 'umask foo'.
[09:41] <JASenpai> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326341   this canbe the solution to my problem?
[09:41] <frankg> yes - working on that
[09:41] <tetonca> if you umask you don't need to chmod
[09:42] <frankg> tetonca, are you talking a permanent umask in .bashrc?
[09:42] <tetonca> 'umask 077 && cat ./foo > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys && mv ./foo DELME-DANGER_HELPHELP
[09:42] <SinisterWays> going to install ubuntu :P. Wish me luck !
[09:42] <mind-shift> poningru: I have changed it to a deb file. but I can't add the file in synaptics
[09:42] <frankg> tetonca, cool - didn't know about that baby
[09:42] <tetonca> frankg: per use umask.
[09:43] <frankg> nice
[09:43] <poningru> mind-shift: do a sudo dpkg -i package-name.deb
[09:44] <tetonca> umask sets the permissions on all future file or directory creations /per session/.
[09:44] <poningru> mind-shift: err I think you can just double click on it
[09:44] <frankg> tetonca, good to know thx
[09:44] <x_> hi all :)
[09:44] <poningru> tetonca: and for mount in fstab
[09:44] <tetonca> umask by itself says what it is set to right now.
[09:44] <poningru> JASenpai: sorry what?
[09:44] <tetonca> poningru: hm!
[09:44] <poningru> umask
[09:45] <JASenpai> about the problem with ttf-opensymbol: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 135
[09:45] <poningru> oh hmm
[09:45] <x_> i have problem with window , when i open window like browser or ... i haven't Minimize or Maximize or X button ... why ?!
[09:46] <poningru> JASenpai: before you try that can you try 'sudo aptitude purge ttf-opensymbol
[09:46] <tetonca> what buttons do you have
[09:46] <poningru> '
[09:46] <JASenpai> k
[09:46] <x_> nothin
[09:46] <poningru> x_: uh... are you using beryl?
[09:46] <tetonca> those are um 'window decorations' maybe.
[09:46] <poningru> when did this start happening?
[09:46] <x_> poningru   yeah
[09:46] <poningru> x_: support in #ubuntu-effects
[09:47] <tetonca> x_  xmms and sawfish both support supressing those things.
[09:47] <poningru> but it sounds like you dont have emerald installed or something
[09:47] <poningru> !beryl
[09:47] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:47] <x_> yeah
[09:47] <x_> what should i do now ?!
[09:47] <mind-shift> poningru: It's working thanks
[09:47] <tetonca> sudo apt-get beryl   <--- maybe?
[09:48] <tetonca> (throw an 'install' in there)
[09:48] <x_> tetonca  last time i installed XMMS and later my PC fucked
[09:48] <poningru> no there is a wiki page for it
[09:48] <poningru> mind-shift: sweet
[09:49] <tetonca> xmms simply makes use of this idea.  as an easy example of how a window without decorations on the frame is useful.
[09:49] <poningru> x_: but yeah ask in #ubuntu-effects they will help you
[09:49] <poningru> tetonca: no dude his window manager is broken
[09:49] <x_> ok
[09:49] <tetonca> poningru: rgr.
[09:49] <poningru> he is using beryl or whatever its called
[09:49] <poningru> soo crazy
[09:49] <tetonca> oh. so beryl is borked.
[09:50] <tetonca> x_: sudo apt-get install <myfavoriteWM>
[09:50] <jafnoob> i like beryl, they may call it hack but it provides functionality not yet found in compiz-fusion
[09:50] <NaNO2x> anyone know of a good way to change the top button from evolution to thunderbird without manually editing the shortcut?
[09:51] <tetonca> I'm what they call it blackbox wm user.
[09:51] <tetonca> sawfish good too if available.
[09:52] <tetonca> NaNO2x doesn't it drag?
[09:52] <poningru> NaNO2x: just drag and drop it from the menu
[09:52] <poningru> right what he said
[09:52] <NaNO2x> heh
[09:53] <poningru> JASenpai: did it work?
[09:54] <tetonca> another hour and there'll be predawn light.
[09:54] <vicious> hello
[09:55] <tetonca> I have no idea what my quit message says in naim (nirc mode).
[09:55] <wizardyesterday> .
[09:59] <Eclipse75> hello world
[09:59] <Impian> hola
[09:59] <AnAnt> poningru: nothing yet ?
[09:59] <jafnoob> is there a command I can use with sudo to kill the x server?
[09:59] <Bob_le_Pointu> kill gdm
[09:59] <Eclipse75> jafnoob, or use top
[10:00] <jafnoob> Eclipse75, top?
[10:00] <poningru> AnAnt: yeah sorry dude doesnt look like it
[10:00] <jafnoob> Bob_le_Pointu, that kills the session too?
[10:00] <tetonca>   mmaybe 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' elegant
[10:00] <Eclipse75> well iono if ubuntu has it, but its a process manager
[10:00] <poningru> it seems as if though they have a pci card in there
[10:00] <jafnoob> ok thanks
[10:00] <Bob_le_Pointu> Even better
[10:00] <poningru> that is causing the kernel to crash
[10:00] <AnAnt> poningru: where did you find that ?
[10:01] <poningru> AnAnt: google, I lost the link
[10:01] <poningru> jafnoob: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:01] <AnAnt> poningru: not on launchpad ?
[10:01] <poningru> AnAnt: err dont think so
[10:01] <AnAnt> poningru: or ubuntu forum ?
[10:01] <poningru> nope
[10:01] <AnAnt> hmmm
[10:01] <jafnoob> poningru, disabled it :)
[10:01] <poningru> hehe
[10:02] <tetonca> jafnoob: rename /etc/rc2.d/Sxxgdm to disable next boot.
[10:02] <AnAnt> poningru: that thing got vista on it
[10:02] <AnAnt> poningru: it looks nice, but I cannot do anything on it !
[10:02] <jafnoob> tetonca, ok
[10:02] <tetonca> jafnoob: that'll keep gdm from starting at all after a boot.
[10:02] <poningru> AnAnt: that sucks
[10:02] <tetonca>  and s/stop/start when u want it on-demand.
[10:02] <Eclipse75> any one hear of the rumor that walmart will be selling ubuntu pc's :D
[10:03] <AnAnt> poningru: that's dissappointing, I can't even run an i386 ubuntu distro on it !
[10:03] <tetonca> Tho that can strand you if it doesn't switch to the right VC node as it executes.  Have ssh handy already then. ;)
[10:03] <AnAnt> it's just like I've thrown away money in the trash
[10:04] <JASenpai> poningru still uninstalling the dependences
[10:04] <poningru> AnAnt: yeah if you can figure out which pci that is doing it... and then disable it in bios
[10:04] <poningru> hmm can you check in bios to see if you can turn off all pci devices
[10:05] <poningru> and then turn them on one by one
[10:05] <poningru> my strong guess is its the wifi or whatever
[10:05] <AnAnt> poningru: I suspect the graphics adapter !
[10:05] <JASenpai> Updating fontconfig cache...
[10:05] <JASenpai> Bus error (core dumped)
[10:05] <JASenpai> dpkg: error processing ttf-opensymbol (--purge):
[10:05] <JASenpai>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 135
[10:05] <JASenpai> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:05] <JASenpai>  ttf-opensymbol
[10:05] <JASenpai> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:05] <JASenpai> A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[10:05] <poningru> WTF
[10:05] <poningru> soo lame
[10:06] <poningru> JASenpai: do a install of all the stuff that got uninstalled
[10:06] <poningru> and then go install debian's package
[10:06] <poningru> AnAnt: which one is it?
[10:07] <x_> anyone are gen in beryl
[10:07] <AnAnt> poningru: it's an Nvidia Go Force 7200
[10:07] <jafnoob> tetonca, I see it's just sometimes logging out from gnome takes minutes before it responds, maybe killing gdm would do it then?
[10:07] <AnAnt> poningru: cannot disable PCI on the BIOS menu !
[10:07] <poningru> AnAnt: that vid card shouldnt cause troubles
[10:07] <AnAnt> poningru: it uses PhoenixBIOS Setup Utility
[10:08] <tetonca> jafnoob: wonder why tho.
[10:08] <x_> anyone in genius in BERYL ?!
[10:08] <tetonca> jafnoob: you can use xdm; faster and lighter.
[10:08] <poningru> wait can you try booting with the wifi and bluetooth if you have it off
[10:08] <jafnoob> x, no but did you try restart emerald?
[10:08] <AnAnt> poningru: they are on actually
[10:08] <poningru> err on
[10:08] <AnAnt> poningru: I can try to turn them off
[10:08] <poningru> right
[10:08] <poningru> turn them off
[10:08] <poningru> then try to boot the cd
[10:08] <tetonca> jafnoob: i usually ~/.xinitrc and have an open xterm as the last command.
[10:09] <tetonca> and start the wm in an xterm.
[10:09] <AnAnt> poningru: you mean the live CD ?
[10:09] <jafnoob> tetonca, don't you need gdm for gnome to behave properly, auto mounting etc
[10:10] <tetonca> jafnoob: possibly!  Don't often use GNOME tho.
[10:10] <poningru> AnAnt: right
[10:10] <tetonca> jafnoob: tho seems to me I use eog pic viewer without the full GNOME wm environ just fine.
[10:10] <poningru> AnAnt: what have you been booting from all this time?
[10:11] <tetonca> jafnoob: eog starts some daemon iirc.
[10:11] <poningru> going to sleep
[10:11] <poningru> nn
[10:11] <tetonca> ponin: night.
[10:11] <AnAnt> poningru: I installed linux (text mode installation)
[10:12] <AnAnt> poningru: and I removed /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm to be able to boot it
[10:12] <jafnoob> tetonca, ok
[10:12] <jetscreamer> you could have just added single to the boot line
[10:12] <tetonca> jafnooob: I like xdm not gdm because I can stealth it so it doesn't look like any DM.
[10:13] <x_> #ubuntu-effects
[10:13] <mpech> re
[10:14] <midl3> cstrike
[10:14] <SpiderDan> how does one add a program to bum?
[10:14] <AnAnt> poningru: crash again, blank screen
[10:16] <AnAnt> poningru: trying in Safe graphics mode
[10:16] <AnAnt> poningru: hmmm, I see this message: PCI: BIOS BUG #81[49435000]  found
[10:16] <bwoaas> Hello, I have a question regarding an update. Ubuntu says it has an update for iptables, but it is not authenticated, and not listed on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn. What should I do? Install, or not?
[10:16] <jafnoob> tetonca, I see your point.. just using gdm on this setup to have the gnome thing working properly, don't always use gnome either
[10:17] <tetonca> AnAnt: he's gone, Jim.
[10:17] <AnAnt> Jim who ?
[10:17] <tetonca> jafnoob: I put new users onto GNOME.  Some love it.
[10:17] <jkwjkw> ls
[10:17] <jkwjkw> hi
[10:17] <tetonca> AnAnt: I forgot to /bones that.  sorry.
[10:17] <jkwjkw> q
[10:18] <jkwjkw> quit
[10:18] <jkwjkw> exit
[10:18] <AnAnt> bones ?
[10:18] <jafnoob> tetonca, I like it, it's not perfect but then again not much is :)
[10:18] <enry> hi i need a little hel, i just buy an usb/com converter it's linux compatible but the installation han not a "reanme" there are only two strange files
[10:19] <tetonca> enry there might be an 'lsusb' or somesuch.
[10:20] <tetonca> I have an rs-232 USB dongle from Belkin.  Didn't work well so I stashed it.
[10:20] <stefg> bwoaas: rather don't install, and clean up your sources.list. you're not running gutsy, are you?
[10:20] <bwoaas> No, I am running feisty
[10:20] <enry> tetonca, http://ftdi-usb-sio.sourceforge.net/
[10:20] <bwoaas> Does nobode else get that update?
[10:21] <stefg> bwoaas: which version are you on?
[10:21] <stefg> !info iptables
[10:21] <ubotu> iptables: administration tools for packet filtering and NAT. In component main, is standard. Version 1.3.6.0debian1-5ubuntu2.1 (feisty), package size 365 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[10:21] <stefg> bwoaas: compare if you have the version above installed
[10:22] <echosystm> how do you make it such that moving/resizing windows shows an outline rather than the whole window?
[10:22] <bwoaas> How can I quickly determine my iptables version?
[10:22] <bwoaas> sources.list seems to contain the default, dutch mirrors
[10:23] <AnAnt> WQBA
[10:23] <AnAnt> wmi_add
[10:23] <stefg> bwoaas: iptables -V or dpkg -l | iptables
[10:23] <tetonca> enry: rgr. tnx.
[10:23] <enry> how to enable my converter?
[10:24] <bwoaas> I have 1.3.5
[10:24] <enry> it said that the dirve is just in the kernel
[10:24] <enry> driver
[10:24] <AnAnt> poningru: hello ?
[10:24] <tetonca> echosys: istr blackbox has that as an option
[10:24] <stefg> bwoaas: ok, so if there are no dubious repos in your sources.list then update. get your gpg keys fixed
[10:25] <bwoaas> So, I have a lower version of iptables, does that mean that it is okay to install the update that is not authenticated
[10:25] <tetonca> enry, maybe a modprobe
[10:25] <enry> how to know my com port?
[10:25] <bwoaas> Ok, thanks!
[10:26] <bwoaas> Oh, wait, synaptic says it is 1.3.6.0debian1-5ub
[10:26] <gunny01> what is hardware support for r61 thinkpads?
[10:26] <bwoaas> I misread the last output :S.
[10:26] <arso_> goodmorning people.
[10:27] <arso_> i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30735/ while "apt-get update" and i have already checked the keys with "sudo apt-key list".
[10:27] <Zenerek> hey guys i'm having aproblem with 5.1 sound in vlc player , it's seems to happen only when i play a dvd, i choose 5.1 from the dvd sound options, but when i check in vlc menus it's stereo and if i set it to 5.1 it begins to stutter, i'm using dapper and have the newest vlc, my sound device is onboard nforce2
[10:28] <tetonca> AnAnt: >> [04:09:03]  <poningru> going to sleep
[10:28] <AnAnt> oh
[10:28] <jeff_> hey can anyone answer a quick question about making a shortcut to an app?
[10:29] <arso_> what is it?
[10:29] <jeff_> well i just got wow working at ALMOST full framerate
[10:29] <jetscreamer> no they can't, you didn't ask
[10:29] <bwoaas> stefg: Sorry, I made a mistake. I have the correct version of iptables. Is there a delay in www.ubuntu.com/usn? Or is it possible that I have found a malicious update?
[10:29] <jeff_> and
[10:29] <x_> #ubuntu-effects
[10:29] <tetonca> hi arso_
[10:29] <Zenerek> jeff: ask your question
[10:29] <JASenpai> back
[10:29] <arso_> tetonca:  hey,
[10:29] <jeff_> i made a desktop shortcut, andit doesnt work
[10:29] <JASenpai> poningru hmm
[10:30] <blue> what are you trying to launch?
[10:30] <jeff_> when i execute from the wow folder,it launches. the launcher however, doesnt
[10:30] <arso_> tetonca:  u think you can help me with my question above ?
[10:30] <tetonca> arso_: I'll scrollback. eyes a bit blurry here.
[10:30] <arso_> tetonca:   <arso_> i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30735/ while "apt-get update" and i have already checked the keys with "sudo apt-key list"
[10:31] <blue> jeff?
[10:31] <jeff_> to make my desktop shortcut, i right clicked wow.exe and said send to desktop
[10:31] <stefg> bwoaas: delays certainly happen. but given the nature of iptables, a certain amount of paranoia seems healthy. I'd investigate wether your signing keys are out of date, or if you have indeed  a mlicious update. The day will com when the bad guys start attacking ubuntu
[10:32] <jeff_> but my desktop shortct doesnt work.
[10:32] <bwoaas> Ok, do you have a pointer to a website that explains this signing process? Or google search terms?
[10:32] <OsamaK> Oh! there are 1006 ;)
[10:32] <jeff_> blue i am trying to make a working shortcut for world of warcraft.
[10:32] <blue> no, right click on desktop, create launcher, then in the command bit, it should be someting like "wine "c_drive/program files/wow/wow.exe" "
[10:33] <blue> im afraid i cant help you any more than that
[10:33] <jeff_> thats the thing, wow isnt installed thru wint, i simply copied my wow folder into my home folder from my ntfs drive
[10:33] <stefg> bwoaas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureApt
[10:33] <bwoaas> Thanks a lot!
[10:33] <blue> so change the path you send to wine
[10:34] <blue> wine <path to wow>
[10:34] <bwoaas> If I find something, I'll let you know. Thanks again
[10:34] <arso_> tetonca:  u still there?
[10:34] <tetonca> arso_: typo? did u really 'sudo apt-get update'?
[10:34] <arso_> tetonca:  yes, and 'sudo aptitude update'
[10:34] <tetonca> The msg says that cures it.  You said it /causes/ it.
[10:34] <Zenerek> jeff:  so you guys are saying wine can run wow?
[10:35] <arso_> tetonca:   ? ? ?
[10:35] <tetonca> arso_: your quoted text says 'W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems'.
[10:35] <blue> Zenerek: yeah, i had it runnin CSS
[10:36] <arso_> tetonca:  thats what the error says,
[10:36] <balleyne> question about partition if anyone is able to help me: I have a dual-boot setup and want to wipe Windows XP, have a gParted Live CD - is my machine going to boot? lol... the XP partition is flagged 'boot'... anything I need to know?
[10:36] <tetonca> Sounds like the packages list cache is corrupt or outdated or out of sync.  Did u change servers?
[10:36] <arso_> tetonca:  but i still get the same error again if i run apt-get update
[10:36] <arso_> tetonca:  yes, i changed the mirror
[10:36] <arso_> tetonca:  but the problem was the same from the st art, so a friend told me to change to something else
[10:36] <jeff_> so... in target i would put "wine /home/jeff/World of Warcraft/WoW.exe"
[10:36] <arso_> tetonca:  so i changed to sweden
[10:36] <DarthShrine> balleyne, Assuming you're using grub, I don't see why not.
[10:36] <jeff_> correct syntax? or no
[10:37] <arso_> tetonca:  in the etc/apt/sources.list i think
[10:37] <OsamaK> look :  ##windows there atr 236 ;)
[10:37] <tetonca> arso_: maybe mv /var/cache/apt/something or /var/lib/dpkg/something to hide it.  the cache
[10:37] <Zenerek> blue: first what's css, second i thought wine could not handle dx9.... or has that changed?
[10:37] <SlickMcRunfast> how can i refresh my Apllications menu without restarting x or logging out?
[10:38] <EvilBro> I tried this before, but didn't get a working answer, so I'm trying again. :P Is it possible to change the size of the icons on toolbars (GNOME)?
[10:38] <arso_> tetonca:  (ive been using for linux for 3 days, so i have no idea what your last message means :( )
[10:38] <blue> Zenerek: CSS = counter strike source, and it can handle it okay :D
[10:38] <balleyne> DarthShrine, I am using grub.. the only thing that scares me is the 'boot' flag on the partition I want to get rid of.. should I add a boot flag to the ubuntu partition? or should it just be able to find ubuntu anyways, since it'd still be on "/dev/hda2"..
[10:38] <jeff_> blue can you tell me if that is the correct way of typing the target into the shortcut?
[10:38] <jeff_> so... in target i would put "wine /home/jeff/World of Warcraft/WoW.exe"
[10:38] <tetonca> arso_: well maybe you're missing the error.  I think you're seeing the symptom not the cause.
[10:39] <DarthShrine> balleyne, The boot flag shouldn't be necessary.
[10:39] <stefg> EvilBro: no, not independently from the size of the toolbar itself. they scale with with the toolbar height
[10:39] <blue> jeff_: yeah, man that loks okay
[10:39] <arso_> tetonca:  i really dont know, what i was doing, i was doing sudo aptitude update, because i wanted to add the medubuntu repositories i think
[10:39] <EvilBro> stefg: okay, how do I set the toolbar height?
[10:39] <arso_> tetonca:  and i got this error.
[10:39] <balleyne> DarthShrine, ok, thanks. I've backed up all my important data... so I guess I'll just give it a shot!
[10:40] <arso_> tetonca:  everytime i try sudo aptitude update or sudo apt-get update, i get this.
[10:40] <stefg> EvilBro: rihjt click on it, properties
[10:40] <DarthShrine> balleyne, Good luck :)
[10:40] <blue> jeff_: no should be :     wine "/home/jeff/World of Warcraft/WoW.exe"
[10:40] <balleyne> DarthShrine, thanks :)
[10:40] <EvilBro> stefg: I was afraid you would say that... you think I am talking about the panel, don't you?
[10:40] <Zenerek> jeff: if it does not work read the man file on wine, you see there is a special character that you have to put in the a path for every space or special character
[10:41] <stefg> EvilBro: indeed, so what are you talking of?
[10:41] <EvilBro> stefg: toolbar in an application
[10:41] <EvilBro> stefg: like ephipany.
[10:41] <Zenerek> jeff: i meant  if it does not work read the man file on wine, you see there is a special character that you have to put in the path for every space or special
[10:42] <arso_> hey guys, i get  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30735/ when i  "apt-get update" or "sudo aptitude update" and i have already checked the keys with "sudo apt-key list
[10:42] <Dezine> I have a second drive that I just formatted to ext3 for easier use, it was ntfs, I can't see to be able to do anything in the drive though. I can creater folders and such, chown didn't seem to work. Any suggestions?
[10:42] <stefg> EvilBro: oh, ok. there's only one user-setting, text below, or text besides icons. the actual icon size is determined by the app, or some them.index file, i guess
[10:42] <arso_> tetonca what happened?
[10:43] <tetonca_> arso_ 6 hour timeout ISP dialup. ;) That's what happened.  O my.
[10:43] <arso_> tetonca haha, too bad
[10:43] <arso_> tetonca so, any ideas?
[10:43] <Zenerek> Dezine: i have not worked with ntfs drives throughlinux but i think you need ntfs3g, anyone correct me?
[10:43] <Juki> anyone else got these: <DCC SEND from Greatmetal [0.0.0.0 port 0] : startkeylogger [0B bytes]  requested in channel #ubuntu>
[10:43] <Dezine> No, I formatted it to ext3
[10:43] <arso_> whats ntfs3g ?
[10:43] <tetonca_> whops
[10:43] <arso_> !ntfs3g
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <tetonca_> big keyboard problem. have to login /again/.
[10:43] <arso_> tetonca ok .
[10:44] <Dezine> so it's not an ntfs drive anymore
[10:44] <stefg> Juki: you should report that to #ubuntu-ops
[10:44] <Juki> kk
[10:44] <EvilBro> stefg: that just sucks. :( (outing my frustration here, not to be taken personally :) ). I do have a question on the panel though. As you said it is resizable, but icons don't resize with is (even though they are scalable). They just jump sizes when the size of the panel passes some threshold. Is this a setup-problem or normal behaviour?
[10:44] <Dezine> It mounts alright I just can't do anything with it, like create folders and move files into it.
[10:45] <Zenerek> ntfs3g allows you to read and write i think to ntfs....
[10:45] <Zenerek> Dezine:  how did you mount it?
[10:45] <stefg> EvilBro: broken by design. there are newer icon themes which uses svg-icons a lot, but i think the panel doesn't make use of it yet
[10:46] <tetonca_> Okay.  So.  An error missed.
[10:46] <arso_> tetonca welcome back
[10:46] <tetonca_> Someone with the exact path can say but the package cache /may/ be corrupt.  I think it's a good guess.
[10:46] <tetonca_> tnx.
[10:46] <Dezine> I used gparted to format it, when I go to Computer it's there, it says the size of the drive, I click on it and it mounts
[10:47] <stefg> !permissions | Dezine
[10:47] <ubotu> Dezine: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:47] <BaD_CrC> hmm, interesting. i've found that you get better results ripping dvds with xdvdshrink if you open the dvd and start playing the first chapter of the movie with your favorite decss dvd player program.
[10:47] <arso_> tetonca i have no idea what that means, how can we find if that is the problem,and how we can fix it
[10:47] <EvilBro> stefg: I see... that would also be the reason I can not make the panel smaller than 23 pixels (no icon would fit)... probably...
[10:47] <Dezine> Alright I'll try that
[10:47] <tetonca_> arso_: not really sure what to suggest.  It's surgery the way I do it here.;)
[10:47] <arso_> tetonca oh lord.
[10:47] <arso_> :P
[10:47] <stefg> EvilBro: test with another icon theme
[10:48] <tetonca_> arso_: how out of the question is a fresh install?
[10:48] <BaD_CrC> just about every Sony movie has ripped flawlessly doing that.
[10:48] <arso_> tetonca very.:(
[10:48] <tetonca_> haha.
[10:48] <arso_> tetonca i just worked 3 days straight on this fresh one
[10:48] <tetonca_> Can u pull the hard drive and put in another?
[10:48] <arso_> i am afraid i dont have any
[10:49] <arso_> how about a virtual fresh isntall?
[10:49] <tetonca_> The best I'd suggest is time and rest.  Think about things.
[10:49] <arso_> tetonca i am a beginner, i have no idea what this is all about
[10:49] <tetonca_> When something gets me I usually set it aside until I'm ready to work on it again.
[10:49] <arso_> W T F
[10:49] <tetonca_> channel split.
[10:50] <arso_> tetonca i srsly dont know anything, no matter how much i think, i wouldnt get anywhere
[10:50] <EvilBro> stefg: tested. didn't work. For some reason I am not allowed to increase the height beyond 120 pixels... stupid limitation.
[10:50] <Zenerek> dezine hey you still there
[10:50] <Dezine> yeah
[10:50] <tetonca_> arso_ not so: rest is a good teacher.  and sleep.  and just time.
[10:50] <Shoopuf> What package should I download from repository if I wanted to play quicktime movies? The auto codec-downloader wanted me to download something called "GStreamer BAD set" ... Sounds kinda sketchy.
[10:50] <fiber> hi
[10:50] <InvisiblePinkUni> I have an external USB sound card, I am able to play sound only through TOTEM, vlc and mplayer cannot play any sound. Please helpl on how to make sound work for ALL programs
[10:50] <arso_> tetonca i usually cant sleep till everything is fixed :(
[10:51] <Dezine> oi
[10:51] <Dezine> wth
[10:51] <tetonca_> arso_ heh I know the feeling.
[10:51] <stefg> Shoopuf: the BAD refers to the license....
[10:51] <Zenerek> dezine: i think i can help you out, do you know the device name of your harddrive? ike say /dev/hd something
[10:51] <echosystm> how do you make it such that moving/resizing windows shows an outline rather than the whole window?afudos
[10:51] <Enselic_> I'm stuck, my cd reader/writer is seems not do be detected, lspci nor lshw seems to find it, what can I do?
[10:51] <tetonca_> arso_ it's going to be like /var/cache/apt .. it's the archive of the package list and I think it's hashed too.
[10:51] <Dezine> /dev/hda1
[10:52] <Shoopuf> stefg: so i assume i shouldnt download it? >_>
[10:52] <arso_> tetonca hmm
[10:52] <stefg> Shoopuf: you have to, if you want to watch qt
[10:52] <jetscreamer> try /dev/scd0
[10:52] <tetonca_> arso_: maybe /var/lib/dpkg/something.  You have to look.  I don't have it present to look at.
[10:52] <fiber> After installing ubuntu server 7.04 and reboot, i get this error: "Int 14: CR2 c1000000 err 00000002 EIP c03f3c3e CS 00000060 flags 00010006 Stack: 373c0046 00000000 c0490000 00001400 00000080 00400000 ffffff80" any idea?
[10:53] <tetonca_> It'll reflect which server /etc/apt points to.
[10:53] <tetonca_> in the filename.
[10:53] <liquiddoom> hmm. I had some trouble with apache2 so I purged it and removed its config directory. Now it doesn't want to regenerate it when I reinstall it, even if I mkdir /etc/apache2 for it.
[10:53] <Toma-> fiber: you need to use the alternate cd and install in commandline mode, rather than using thes server iso
[10:53] <arso_> tetonca  i have no idea what to look for
[10:53] <Zenerek> Dezine:  ok first unmount the drive, second open a terminal and use this command sudo mount /dev/hda1/ -t vfat -o charset=utf8,umask=000
[10:53] <arso_> tetonca it could all be wrong and i wouldnt knwo
[10:53] <Zta> I've installed the nautilus-script-collection-svn package (providing subversion bindings from Nautilus) but I don't see any new menu entries anywhere, either in the top menu bar or when right-clicking the a file or dir.  Anyone familiar with this package?
[10:54] <Zenerek> Dezine:  oops wait
[10:54] <fiber> Toma-: what its the alternate cd? and why didnt works the server iso?
[10:54] <stefg> Enselic_: if i recall correctly, you're running gutsy. the kernel may simply have abug, so there's nothing you can do, except using a stable version
[10:54] <vikzx86> I have trouble installing nvidia drivers.. Can someone help me out??
[10:54] <Dezine> lol
[10:54] <Jammer> liquiddoom, use --force-confmiss
[10:54] <Enselic_> stefg: I'm actually at the stable version now, but the problem persists
[10:54] <liquiddoom> Jammer: On what command? apt-get?
[10:54] <Toma-> fiber: the server iso has an SMP kernel, and the CPU you are using doesnt like it. you need the generic kernel or even a 386 kernel to get it to work
[10:54] <jetscreamer> recompile your kernel w/o paravirt_ops enabled
[10:55] <jetscreamer> the do nvidia
[10:55] <Toma-> fiber: the alternate cd will install it by default
[10:55] <jetscreamer> oops wrong channel
[10:55] <arso_> jetscreamer:  heyy
[10:55] <tetonca_> arso_: did you look at the manual page for apt-get?
[10:55] <stefg> Enselic_: pastebin your 'dmesg' output.
[10:55] <stefg> !paste | Enselic_
[10:55] <ubotu> Enselic_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:55] <Enselic_> stefg: what really confuses me is that it worked out of the box of Gutsy previously, but suddenly stopped. THen after a reinstall, it still didin't work
[10:55] <jetscreamer> doesn't care if smp is enabled
[10:55] <arso_> tetonca no
[10:55] <jetscreamer> problem is elsewhere
[10:56] <tetonca_> arso_: dry 'sudo dselect' if you really want to be annoyed.  it's difficult to use but just choose <U>pdate (NO OTHER OPTIONS tho).
[10:56] <stefg> Enselic_: checked cables and connectors already?
[10:56] <Toma-> jetscreamer: not 4 hrs ago i had the same problem. different kernel fixed it
[10:56] <jetscreamer> dselect --expert
[10:56] <Zenerek> Dezine:  hold on first create a folder in in mnt call it win, then unmount the drive, second open a terminal and use this command sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win/ -t vfat -o charset=utf8,umask=000
[10:56] <Jammer> liquiddoom, you need to specify it in apt-get as dpkg option
 run dselect --expert. hit the down arrow once, then hit enter a lot. problem solved. (if the packages are available and/or scripts not borked), or eg, basically, DON'T edit sources, DON'T select anything, just go to option 1 (update sources) and JUST HIT ENTER a lot until you exit... you may have to hit y or n somewhere. Also, if you've never run dselect, you may have to use option 0 and choose APT Acquisition.
[10:56] <liquiddoom> Jammer: So apt-get install --force-confmiss apache2?
[10:57] <Kjellviz> Ive got a Dell XPS M1710 (laptop) running Kubuntu, Im trying to get rid of system beeps (like the errorbeep you get when you hit backspace in terminal and theres nothing to delete), even though ive got a headset connected, its beeping in the internal speakers (like a pc-speaker). How ca i get rid of this annoyance ?
[10:57] <Dezine> ok
[10:57] <Jammer> liquiddoom, apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>
[10:57] <arso_> tetonca updating now
[10:57] <Enselic_> stefg: I can install e.g. Feisty using it... so the connectors must be fine
[10:57] <disinterested> on the s-video out on my video card i know it plays video to tv but would it send out text also?
[10:57] <liquiddoom> Jammer: Awesome, thanks. I'll try that
[10:57] <stefg> Enselic_: so i need to look at your dmesg
[10:57] <tetonca_> arso_: what jetscreamer said.
[10:57] <fiber> Toma-: in http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download i select server edition and standar personal computer.. isnt that right?
[10:57] <arso_> tetonca i didnt see his messages
[10:58] <arso_> jetscreamer:  pleease add my name if ur talking to me
[10:58] <Enselic_> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30766/
[10:58] <jetscreamer> i'm trying not to talk to anybody
[10:58] <tetonca_> ;)
[10:58] <Zenerek> so anyway i need help with 5.1 sound in vlc, it stutters
[10:58] <Dezine> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[10:58] <x_> command for xorg.conf ?!
[10:59] <jetscreamer> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:59] <jetscreamer> ?
[10:59] <x_> what was command for xorg.conf
[10:59] <jetscreamer> i dunno
[11:00] <x_> how i can see  #Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"  inxorg.conf ?!
[11:00] <Zenerek> Dezine: crap, oops sorry try switching where it says vfat to the file system on the drive
[11:00] <arso_> tetonca:  can u tell me what jet said?
[11:00] <jetscreamer> less /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep -i something
[11:00] <jetscreamer> /lastlog jetscreamer
[11:00] <jeremie> bonjour
[11:01] <tetonca> arso_: no way. scroll back.
[11:01] <stefg> Enselic_: ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0x000118ff
[11:01] <arso_> tetonca:  lol k
[11:02] <Enselic_> stefg: interesting, I've tried to grep for -i cd and -i samsung
[11:02] <Enselic_> stefg: thanks for spotting, now I have something to build future fix-attempts on
[11:02] <x_> #ubuntu-effects
[11:02] <Dezine> nvm, I got it
[11:03] <stefg> Enselic_: see line 170: try pci=assign-busses as additional boot parameters in grubs menu.lst
[11:03] <Dezine> the drive had a boot flag, removed it in gparted and it mounted correctly
[11:03] <Zenerek> Dezine: how's t going?
[11:03] <abedo> guys there no "emacs" on ubuntu
[11:03] <abedo> ?
[11:03] <Catoptromancy> abedo, you can download emacs
[11:03] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search emacs
[11:03] <Toma-> !find emacs
[11:03] <ubotu> Found: emacs, emacs-el, emacs-goodies-el, emacs-nox, emacs21 (and 47 others)
[11:03] <Enselic_> stefg: wonderful, looks very promising, thanks for being awesome! :D
[11:03] <jetscreamer> !info emacs21
[11:03] <ubotu> emacs21: The GNU Emacs editor. In component main, is optional. Version 21.4a+1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1976 kB, installed size 5924 kB
[11:04] <jetscreamer> oops
[11:04] <mind-shift> How do I remove the hard drive icons that appears on my desktop?
[11:04] <tetonca> If mg is available it's got emacs keybindings.
[11:04] <ccherrett> I am trying to install qsampler that requires qtdir to be set. I set qtdir to /usr/share/qt4 but it is complaining it must have qt3 >= 3.1.1
[11:04] <donTommazo> does anyone know where to get the PowerPC version of Feisty?
[11:05] <tetonca> ccherrett maybe libqt
[11:05] <ccherrett> tetonca: I have installed every qt header and source I could find
[11:05] <Dezine> thanks for the help
[11:05] <Zenerek> donTommazo: tr  looking fora orrent at isohunt
[11:06] <tetonca> ccherrett there were licencing issues wrt qt but I thot they made friends with purists a while ago.
[11:06] <donTommazo> aha, so that's the way. :) thankyou very much.
[11:07] <Zenerek> Dezine was that directed at me....anyway i glad i could help i did
[11:08] <Enselic_> stefg: I suspect the conflict happend because I poked in BIOS, that would explain why it suddenly stopped working, would you agree?
[11:08] <InvisiblePinkUni> my usb audio device wont play from VLC or mplayer. but it plays from totem(gstreamer) please help me out here.
[11:08] <stefg> Enselic_: ohhhh yesss!
[11:08] <Enselic_> stefg: or does the BIOS have nothing do do with pci?
[11:08] <Enselic_> stefg: ok :)
[11:09] <zoom_> hello i would like to have text during the boot instead of progress barre i comment the line quiet in grub menu.lst but after update-grub the # is always present ??? thx
[11:09] <albreche> hy, anyone encouteringproblme while pairing a inspiron640M with a nokia serie60 using bluetooh? ie: i can send file from laptop to mobile, but my mobile can't see my laptop ?
[11:10] <Zenerek> so anyone help with my 5.1 stuttering in vlc?
[11:10] <Keen> What kind of fun stuff can i do on ubuntu :)
[11:10] <jimqode> zoom_, remove splash from kernel line on menu.lst. you don't need to do update-grub.
[11:11] <zoom_> thx jimqode
[11:11] <jimqode> zoom_, np. have fun!
[11:11] <zoom_> ;)
[11:11] <x_> #ubuntu-effects
[11:11] <Keen> What kind of fun games the have online play?
[11:11] <Keen> for ubuntu
[11:11] <jimqode> Keen, you can have a look at linux game tome (search for it on google)
[11:12] <Keen> ok
[11:12] <liquiddoom> Keen: What type of game?
[11:12] <Keen> Any kind of fun game
[11:12] <stefg> !games | Keen
[11:12] <ubotu> Keen: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[11:14] <Hweran> hola
[11:14] <Hweran> hi
[11:14] <Zenerek> well since i haven't gotten any tips as to what the problem might be with my sound, i must depart bye all
[11:14] <jeff_> so is xchat the best irc client? what if you want to run an fserve? i used to use this thing called invision on windows it was awesome
[11:15] <mind-shift> Is there a way I can lock the desktop?
[11:15] <mind-shift> so no icons appears there?
[11:15] <Hweran> i have a xchat client for irc
[11:15] <Catoptromancy> mind-shift, yes
[11:15] <mind-shift> how?
[11:15] <Hweran> and is great
[11:15] <jimqode> jeff_, try eggdrop
[11:15] <Catoptromancy> setting > something, probably desktop
[11:15] <jimqode> !find eggdrop
[11:15] <ubotu> Found: eggdrop, eggdrop-data
[11:15] <jimqode> !info eggdrop
[11:15] <ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1 (feisty), package size 461 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[11:16] <stefg> !icons | mind-shift
[11:16] <ubotu> mind-shift: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[11:16] <Hweran> the best irc client ?
[11:16] <stefg> !best
[11:16] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:16] <Hweran> what is the best irc client for Ubuntu Feisty Fawn ?
[11:17] <stefg> the one you like
[11:17] <stefg> !irc
[11:17] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[11:17] <jeff_> well say i wanted one with good file server capabilitie, both for serving and browsing
[11:17] <sauvin> I can't tell you what the best irc client is for $favourite_OS, but I can tell you that I like XChat a lot.
[11:18] <Hweran> what's clients has ? what doesn't xchat ?
[11:18] <jimqode> Hweran, xchat is pretty nice
[11:18] <sauvin> Hweran, I don't understand what you're asking.
[11:18] <mind-shift> thanks
[11:19] <stefg> Hweran: xchat is of course a good starting point, i use chatzilla tho
[11:19] <Hweran> i am spanish... my inglish is very bad
[11:19] <jeff_> maybe i just dont know how to browse and configure file servers with xchat yet.
[11:19] <mind-shift> :D
[11:19] <sauvin> I don't use xchat for browsing....
[11:19] <DarkSpecter> hi
[11:20] <DarkSpecter> anyone available who could help me get iec958 output working on a atiixp ?
[11:20] <Shoopuf> #f-spot
[11:20] <Hweran> my first client of irc is Xchat, i don't has other client, i like has other client, what client have in the internet? other clients?? names of clients for irc pleased ?
[11:20] <Shoopuf> sorry
[11:20] <jeff_> soy americano, mi espanol es mas shitty que su ingles
[11:20] <stefg> !irc | Hweran
[11:20] <ubotu> Hweran: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[11:20] <stefg> !es
[11:20] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:20] <Hweran> jeff jajajjaa si quieres hablamos en espaol
[11:21] <Hweran> ubotu, esque alli no habla nadie...
[11:21] <Hweran> ya estoy en ese chat...
[11:21] <stefg> !english
[11:21] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:21] <sauvin> Hweran, not here. We don't all understand Spanish.
[11:21] <jimqode> !es | Hweran
[11:21] <ubotu> Hweran: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:21] <jimqode> +
[11:23] <Hweran> they are very amiable
[11:23] <Stinker> hello
[11:23] <Hweran> hello stinker
[11:23] <Stinker> i get this error, i cant find help anywhere else :/
[11:23] <Stinker> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[11:23] <Stinker> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[11:23] <Stinker> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[11:23] <stefg> Stinker: installing vmware?
[11:23] <Stinker> ye ;p
[11:24] <Stinker> vmware player
[11:24] <stefg> !vmware | Stinker
[11:24] <ubotu> Stinker: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[11:24] <Stinker> ok, ta
[11:25] <revilodraw> hi! when i login to my laptop the wireless connection at my home isnt automatically found, i need to go into 'system, administration, network' and check the box next to 'wireless connection' and then it works fine... any ideas how to make it work automatically?
[11:26] <stefg> Stinker: the generic vmware installer won't work with kernels above 2.6.18 or so. you'd need to patch and sustain other pits, so rather just take the repo version
[11:26] <Stinker> ok
[11:26] <jeff_> is anyone using xfce? i cant figure out how to get stuff from my menu onto my shortcut bar
[11:26] <Stinker> ill try source :)
[11:26] <Daniel_Kyo> hello
[11:26] <jeff_> i dont have to do it manually do i?
[11:27] <Daniel_Kyo> you aren t bot yes?
[11:27] <stefg> !ubotu
[11:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:27] <Daniel_Kyo> ubotu
[11:27] <revilodraw> daniel; no we r real ppl
[11:27] <Daniel_Kyo> ok
[11:27] <Daniel_Kyo> i have many problemas
[11:28] <Daniel_Kyo> in the dapper
[11:28] <revilodraw> daniel; we all do at some stage.. someone here will help you
[11:28] <revilodraw> daniel; what is your problem?
[11:28] <stefg> !pt | Daniel_Kyo
[11:28] <ubotu> Daniel_Kyo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:28] <stefg> Just in case you need portuguese support
[11:28] <Daniel_Kyo> my zsnes not work 100%
[11:29] <liquiddoom> Daniel_Kyo: What happens?
[11:29] <Daniel_Kyo> stefg !pt |
[11:29] <Daniel_Kyo> pq vc num tah l
[11:29] <Daniel_Kyo> help me
[11:29] <wizek> Well, I have a complex problem. I instaled Vista before, and i had some tries to install ubuntu on my pc. It took me a long time because of some grub error, and the buggy grub destroyed my Vista's boot things, so i could not boot to it... After a while, I managed to install Ubuntu, but to the same hard disk as Win is. Now I need to make dualboot without reinstalling Vista or Ubuntu, is it possible? I don't mind if I'll use Vista's dual boot a
[11:29] <Daniel_Kyo> helooo
[11:29] <tetonca> viet
[11:29] <Daniel_Kyo> my zsnes not work 100%
[11:29] <BaD_CrC> impatience gets you nowhere
[11:29] <liquiddoom> Daniel_Kyo: We're here. What happens when you try to install/run zsnes?
[11:30] <Daniel_Kyo> he is very lag
[11:30] <jeff_> If anyone is familiar with the XFCE gui, please send me a PM and ill get back to you after i smoke a cig
[11:30] <Daniel_Kyo> in the live cd Kurumin 2.01
[11:30] <jeff_> thanks much
[11:30] <Daniel_Kyo> it is not
[11:30] <Daniel_Kyo> Kurumin sucks
[11:30] <Toma-> what file specifies what DE is run on startx?
[11:31] <Enselic_> Toma: startx only starts X afaik
[11:31] <Daniel_Kyo> liquidoom
[11:31] <liquiddoom> Toma-: It should be a file named xinitrc, I believe
[11:31] <Daniel_Kyo> hi
[11:31] <Enselic_> Toma: check out gdm
[11:31] <Daniel_Kyo> HELLO
[11:31] <Toma-> liquiddoom: thats what i thought... hmm
[11:31] <liquiddoom> Daniel_Kyo: I didn't understand. You're saying zsnes runs slowly?
[11:31] <Daniel_Kyo> yes
[11:31] <Toma-> Enselic_: hehe, gdm is much too big for this system
[11:31] <Daniel_Kyo> good
[11:32] <Daniel_Kyo> liquiddoom
[11:32] <Daniel_Kyo> yes
[11:32] <Stinker> um, i downloaded the source and installed it, but when i run the /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl it still gives that error
[11:32] <iv1> Hi, I've got problems with my w-lan connection. I'm working on a Thinkpad T60 with feisty and gnome-network-manager. Unfortunately every 3 minutes there is reconnection.
[11:32] <Daniel_Kyo> liquiddoom,
[11:32] <Daniel_Kyo> liquiddoom,
[11:32] <liquiddoom> !patience | Daniel_Kyo
[11:32] <ubotu> Daniel_Kyo: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:33] <iv1> I'm using an atheros card, and have ndiswrapper v. 1.38 installed
[11:33] <eddie> I have ssh server on a small pc connected directly to mine.......... So I didnt need to do much to be safe..... I want to set one up on this box... whats the Safest way to do it? So that no one cant "break" in
[11:33] <Daniel_Kyo> ubotu
[11:33] <velko> wizek, i don't run windows but remember people complaining about not beeing able to dual boot vista/ubuntu. maybe this tutorial will help you: http://www.eloff.se/tutorials.php?ubuntu_vista_dualboot
[11:33] <wizek> Well, I have a complex problem. I instaled Vista before, and i had some tries to install ubuntu on my pc. It took me a long time because of some grub error, and the buggy grub destroyed my Vista's boot things, so i could not boot to it... After a while, I managed to install Ubuntu, but to the same hard disk as Win is. Now I need to make dualboot without reinstalling Vista or Ubuntu, is it possible? I don't mind if I'll use Vista's dual boot a
[11:33] <Daniel_Kyo> are bot?
[11:33] <Stinker> Daniel_Kyo
[11:33] <Stinker> are noob!
[11:33] <liquiddoom> Daniel_Kyo: Yes, it's a bot. And I'm not sure how to make zsnes run faster. Try closing background applications
[11:33] <Stinker> *sigh*
[11:33] <wizek> velko, thx i'll read it out
[11:34] <liquiddoom> eddie: You might want to disable password auth and use keys
[11:34] <Daniel_Kyo> liquiddoom, i have xfce desktop
[11:34] <Dramr4ever> hello here is my problem : i need to manage traffic in my small network i used microsoft isa( internet security and acceleration server) server but it's runnig very slow as my pc is quite old i need webcaching traffic monitoring and bandwidth control and firewall can any body help ???
[11:34] <Daniel_Kyo> my machine is very slow
[11:34] <Daniel_Kyo> pentium 3
[11:34] <Daniel_Kyo> 750 mhz
[11:34] <Daniel_Kyo> 256mb ram
[11:34] <Stinker> well theres ur problem
[11:34] <Daniel_Kyo> no
[11:34] <Stinker> get a new pc :)
[11:35] <liquiddoom> eddie: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/sshrsakey.html
[11:35] <Daniel_Kyo> my uglyindows xp
[11:35] <Daniel_Kyo> works normally
[11:35] <stefg> Daniel_Kyo: you should try xubuntu on that machine. you'll need more ram (512MB) to hav ubuntu running at decent speed
[11:35] <Dramr4ever> hello here is my problem : i need to manage traffic in my small network i used microsoft isa( internet security and acceleration server) server but it's runnig very slow as my pc is quite old i need webcaching traffic monitoring and bandwidth control and firewall can any body help ???
[11:35] <eddie> liquiddom: Cheers
[11:35] <stefg> !xubuntu | Daniel_Kyo
[11:35] <ubotu> Daniel_Kyo: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[11:35] <Daniel_Kyo> yes
[11:35] <liquiddoom> eddie: It's a little confusing, but it's VERY secure.
[11:36] <Daniel_Kyo> i downloading it
[11:36] <eddie> liquiddom: Okay, Ill try it :)
[11:36] <Stinker> does anyone here know whats up with this prob im having? :/
[11:36] <Daniel_Kyo> Ubuntu + Xfce not resove liquiddoom ?
[11:36] <wizard> my eithernet adapter isn't working, only wifi :-(
[11:37] <wizard> no linklight when i try ifup eth0, it returns this over and over: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
[11:37] <stefg> Stinker: i told you *not* to use the generic vmware-installer. just sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[11:37] <cyberphaz> hmm beryl is pretty cool once you get it working
[11:37] <eddie> liquiddoom: Is there any other methods of doing it?
[11:37] <Stinker> ok
[11:37] <Stinker> ta
[11:37] <Dramr4ever> hello can any body help me
[11:37] <wizard> it then says "no working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[11:37] <liquiddoom> eddie: yes. Which do you want, convience or better security?
[11:37] <Dramr4ever> hello can any body help me
[11:37] <Daniel_Kyo> liquiddoom,
[11:37] <Dramr4ever> hello here is my problem : i need to manage traffic in my small network i used microsoft isa( internet security and acceleration server) server but it's runnig very slow as my pc is quite old i need webcaching traffic monitoring and bandwidth control and firewall can any body help ???
[11:38] <eddie> liquiddoom: Security
[11:38] <iv1> Hi, I've got problems with my w-lan connection. I'm working on a Thinkpad T60 with feisty and gnome-network-manager. Unfortunately every 3 minutes there is reconnection.
[11:38] <iv1> I'm using an atheros card, and have ndiswrapper v. 1.38 installed
[11:38] <liquiddoom> eddie: Generally, what I do is make keys with passphrases as well as using a nonstandard port for ssh
[11:38] <liquiddoom> !info seahorse | eddie
[11:38] <ubotu> eddie: seahorse: A Gnome front end for GnuPG. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3692 kB, installed size 9996 kB
[11:39] <liquiddoom> eddie: That will help with making the keys
[11:39] <eddie> liquiddoom: So basically.... Better password? and non-standard port
[11:39] <liquiddoom> eddie: Essentially
[11:39] <eddie> When you say "key"... You mean the pass right
[11:39] <liquiddoom> eddie: no
[11:39] <Daniel_Kyo> ubontu
[11:40] <liquiddoom> eddie: You have a public and a private key. Public can encrypt, private decrypts
[11:40] <stefg> Dramr4ever: that's a classical linux job, using squid, iptables and some other tools. But you will have to gain some linux expertise to set that up, or hire a local geek
[11:40] <Daniel_Kyo> stefg:
[11:40] <eddie> liquiddoom:Okay.. I get you, but where do I set the keys
[11:40] <Enselic_> liquiddoom: rather, public is public, private is kept private
[11:40] <Daniel_Kyo> you not use ubuntu-pt?
[11:40] <Enselic_> liquiddoom: one can encrypt and decrypt with both afaik
[11:41] <Dramr4ever> hello here is my problem : i need to manage traffic in my small network i used microsoft isa( internet security and acceleration server) server but it's runnig very slow as my pc is quite old i need webcaching traffic monitoring and bandwidth control and firewall can any body help ???
[11:41] <Dramr4ever> hello here is my problem : i need to manage traffic in my small network i used microsoft isa( internet security and acceleration server) server but it's runnig very slow as my pc is quite old i need webcaching traffic monitoring and bandwidth control and firewall can any body help ???
[11:41] <Daniel_Kyo> And my help?
[11:41] <liquiddoom> Enselic: I never got it fully when I tried it >_<
[11:41] <Daniel_Kyo> NOW LOADING...
[11:42] <Toma-> Trying to get a user to login automagically via startx and/or rc.local. any ideas?
[11:42] <arso> hey guys, i am having trouble removing beryl
[11:42] <tetonca> arso: re
[11:42] <Trashcan> what do you call those programs that sit on irc and you connect to them to chat
[11:42] <arso> tetonca:  i fixed the older problem btw
[11:42] <Dramr4ever> hello here is my problem : i need to manage traffic in my small network i used microsoft isa( internet security and acceleration server) server but it's runnig very slow as my pc is quite old i need webcaching traffic monitoring and bandwidth control and firewall can any body help ???
[11:42] <liquiddoom> eddie: As much as I hate linking you to another distro's page, http://gentoo-wiki.com/SECURITY_SSH_without_a_password
[11:42] <tetonca> Toma: you can substitute a shell script for /sbin/init.
[11:42] <arso> tetonca:  now i have a new problem, removing beryl
[11:42] <stefg> !repeat | Dramr4ever
[11:42] <ubotu> Dramr4ever: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:43] <liquiddoom> eddie: Just add a passphrase instead of leaving it blank in that guide
[11:43] <Toma-> tetonca: i still want all the process's to run tho
[11:43] <eddie> liquiddoom: oh okay
[11:43] <Daniel_Kyo> Are Brazilian ignored?
[11:43] <velko> Toma-, i don't think this is possible. at least i never heard of such tool
[11:44] <arso> Can anyone help me remove beryl completely from my system.
[11:44] <Toma-> velko i know its possible, its just a matter of getting the root process to start X as a different user, i presume
[11:44] <tetonca> Toma: so script startx as that user. youre trying to avoid getty, /bin/login, gdm.
[11:44] <Enselic_> sudo apt-get remove beryl?
[11:44] <heskethj> arso: Open up synaptic and do a search for "beryl" and then "compiz" removing all the packages that are start with either term
[11:44] <Toma-> tetonca: yep
[11:45] <arso> heskethj: Enselic_ oh i did sudo apt-get remove beryl-manager
[11:45] <arso> heskethj:  i want to keep compiz
[11:45] <tetonca> Toma: 'su -c startx myuser'
[11:45] <Daniel_Kyo> Are Brazilians ignored?
[11:45] <Toma-> tetonca: i think i need to change /etc/inittab
[11:45] <Enselic_> arso: heskethj's tip is better
[11:45] <Toma-> tetonca: good call :D
[11:45] <heskethj> arso, just remove beryl then. beryl-manager is the applet that sits in your panel and allows you control your window manager
[11:46] <arso> heskethj:  i see, great ty, and do u recommend compiz fusion to a newbie/?
[11:46] <JodiH> hi
[11:46] <Toma-> What the devil.... no /etc/inittab
[11:46] <Meridre> As a newbie, I just got it all working in a reasonable amount of time
[11:46] <tetonca> Toma: I just wrote a shell script to replace /sbin/init the other day.  I end up as my user in a chroot jail in a ramdisk .. logged in or with a getty acquiring that login.  With telnet access to the chroot jail.
[11:46] <arso> Meridre:  and is it working fine?
[11:46] <Meridre> yup
[11:46] <arso> stable
[11:46] <arso> ?
[11:46] <Toma-> tetonca: i see.
[11:46] <Meridre> mostly yeah
[11:47] <JodiH> hi guys im a newbie and just need some advice
[11:47] <arso> hmm
[11:47] <Daniel_Kyo> only because I am Brazilian you they ignore me!
[11:47] <arso> Daniel_Kyo:  hi :)
[11:47] <velko> Toma-, they switched to upstart. i don't know which config file it uses
[11:47] <Daniel_Kyo> aleluiah!
[11:47] <arso> Daniel_Kyo:  whats the problem ?
[11:47] <tetonca> Toma: I did not make it multi-user in the autologin mode tho. ;)
[11:47] <Meridre> it crashed when i tried to put a skydome on it, but other than that it works and looks great
[11:47] <Daniel_Kyo> My zsnes
[11:47] <Daniel_Kyo> not work correctly
[11:47] <Toma-> Ok, ill get to hacking. thanks guys
[11:47] <heskethj> arso, compiz fusion is defiantly a great improvement but it is still beta (maybe even alpha) software which means it is sometimes prone to breaking (although hasn't been too bad for me). If you find a good tutorial (a search for ubuntu compiz fusion will do) you should be fine, but be warned, it isn't all white clouds and dreams. Compiz fusion is a merge of compiz and beryl but is probably more similar to beryl. So if you don
[11:47] <heskethj> 't like beryl, why do you wish to upgrade to fusion?
[11:47] <stefg> Dramr4ever: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html see if you can make use of this
[11:47] <JodiH> can anyo help with fetchmail?
[11:48] <arso> Daniel_Kyo:  i have no idea, sorry
[11:48] <Tron04> hello! Why are my IDE Drives detected as /dev/sd* when I would expect them to be /dev/hd*? What about DMA then?
[11:48] <Daniel_Kyo> wait arso
[11:48] <velko> JodiH, yes. what is your problem
[11:48] <Daniel_Kyo> my kurumin live cd work
[11:48] <Daniel_Kyo> ubuntu not
[11:49] <Meridre> Can anyone recommend a good osx style dock software for icons?
[11:49] <JodiH> velko  we have an exchange server internal i need to configure all mail comeing to the linux box to forward to the exchange server
[11:49] <Trashcan> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/blogofractal.png
[11:49] <Trashcan> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/blogofractal.png
[11:49] <Trashcan> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/blogofractal.png
[11:49] <tetonca> arso: sorry it's a bit busy in here.  I forget -- u were the 'apt-get update' corruption holder?
[11:50] <IntuitiveNipple> JodiH: Can you not use SMPT forwarding and configure Exchange appropriately?
[11:50] <tetonca> Meridre: WindowMaker I think has a dock.
[11:50] <stefg> Meridre: there are several mediocre ones, some in alpha state... in general nothing to be too excited about
[11:50] <velko> JodiH, you have to use procmail for that task. maybe in combination with fetchmail
[11:50] <arso> tetonca:  yes, but thats fixed now.
[11:50] <stefg> !gnomedock
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomedock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <stefg> !gnome-dock
[11:50] <ubotu> gnome-dock is a MacOS X -like dock for the gnome desktop, see www.gnome-dock.org
[11:50] <fdr> !ntfs
[11:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:50] <arso> Meridre:  there is 'kiba dock' i think
[11:50] <fdr> !ntfs-3g
[11:50] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:50] <Dramr4ever> hello here is my problem : i need to manage traffic in my small network i used microsoft isa( internet security and acceleration server) server but it's runnig very slow as my pc is quite old i need webcaching traffic monitoring and bandwidth control and firewall can any body help ???
[11:51] <GiZiM> Dramr4ever unplug the router
[11:51] <heskethj> Meridre, You can use gdesklets if you wish not to use composite. Otherwise there is kibadock or my recommendation, "avant-window-navigator"
[11:51] <arso> heskethj: i removed everything with beryl from synaptic, but the effects are still working, do i need to restart x for it to work.
[11:51] <JodiH> thanks ill look into it and get back
[11:51] <NedTheFriend> can anyone help me install a tv card in ubuntu?
[11:51] <heskethj> arso, most likely. Or you can just type "metacity --replace" into a terminal. Also double check that beryl isn't in yoru session start up list. System->preferences->session
[11:51] <IntuitiveNipple> Any ACPI sleep/resume experts about? I have an intriguing issue with a PC that is getting to hwsleep.c::acpi_enter_sleep_state() and apparently writing the ACPI SLP_EN bit, but resuming immediately!
[11:52] <l3on> hi!
[11:52] <heskethj> Hello l3on
[11:52] <l3on> noflex: hi heskethj
[11:52] <l3on> :) LOL
[11:52] <bXi> anyone around who knows how to get the powernowd/cpufreq stuff to work on a dell latitude 120L ?
[11:53] <l3on> s/noflex /heskethj
[11:53] <lt_kowalski> hi l3on
[11:53] <Meridre> Does anyone know how to get a touchpad to middleclick if you press in the lower right corner, like it works on windows
[11:53] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> xtknight i still have the problem
[11:53] <GiZiM> Howdy all - Got a quick question i just installed Eggdrop from the Ubuntu Reps. question is... where the crap tasticness is the freaking .conf file at?
[11:53] <stefg> !synaptics
[11:53] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[11:53] <arso> heskethj: ty
[11:54] <heskethj> arso, no worries. I assume it worked fine?
[11:54] <arso> heskethj:  yes.
[11:54] <arso> heskethj: i only have 2 workspaces now
[11:54] <heskethj> arso, just right click on your workspace applet and set it to 4 (or your desired amount)
[11:55] <bXi> okay other question
[11:55] <yaeyo> Anyone using an HP NC8430 laptop and having overheating problems? I need a proper DSDT and have no knowledge on how to program one ...
[11:55] <jayde_drag0n> i'm trying to install some themes from gnome-look.org .. in the compiz section... but everytime i download something.. andf click on install all i get is "file format is invalid" and i can't seem to find a suitable walkthru to tell me how to install these... am i supposed to extract them somewhere?
[11:55] <bXi> where do i put modules that need to be modprobed at boot?
[11:55] <arso> heskethj: i went to system>pref>desktop effects> and selected the cube workspaces
[11:55] <arso> heskethj:  how does it work, wts the hotkey
[11:55] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> i download the iso and i burn it but when i selece install linux it says loading linux kernel and then a black screen ...... can someone help me?
[11:56] <velko> bXi, /etc/modules
[11:56] <TiTo> loooooooooooo
[11:56] <GiZiM> Howdy all - Got a quick question i just installed Eggdrop from the Ubuntu Reps. question is... where the crap tasticness is the freaking .conf file at?
[11:56] <milk_> hello
[11:56] <cyberphaz> lol now beryl works and wow wont run anymore
[11:57] <tetonca> kathe do a text mode installation.  Look for VESA (VGA 640x480) vid mode only.
[11:57] <bXi> velko: thanks
[11:57] <heskethj> arso, The desktop effects will only work if you have it turned on... if you wish to use your system without compiz (which is what I assumed you were aiming at doing) you just right click on the little side changer down the bottom right of your panel and select preferences. In both compiz, beryl and metacity (the non-effects default window manage for Ubuntu/Gnome) Ctrl+alt+left/right change desktop spaces
[11:57] <tetonca> Maybe the ubuntu iso has a key to press during boot for text install, or Grub may have a vid mode selection at bottom.
[11:58] <milk_> anyone known how to install vmware server (last build on vmware.com) under gutsy (uptodate, kernel 2.6.22 personnal build) ?
[11:58] <heskethj> cyberphaz, are you using Xgl, or do you have an nVidia card?
[11:58] <cyberphaz> xgl on a ati card
[11:58] <tetonca> kathe: edit the grub command line if possible and set 'vga=normal'.
[11:58] <Keen> What does XGL do?
[11:58] <Dramr4ever> hello here is my problem : i need to manage traffic in my small network i used microsoft isa( internet security and acceleration server) server but it's runnig very slow as my pc is quite old i need webcaching traffic monitoring and bandwidth control and firewall can any body help ???
[11:58] <cyberphaz> aparantly i need to use XGL for beryl to work on ati card
[11:58] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca i do a text mode installation (i have the alternate iso) and i select vga by pressing f4 in the ubuntu boot menu
[11:58] <Keen> !XGL
[11:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:59] <stefg> !vmware |  milk_
[11:59] <ubotu> milk_: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[11:59] <tetonca> kathe: try Alt+F2 or Alt+F3 where it goes black screen.
[11:59] <heskethj> cyberphaz, unfortunately due to poor drivers with ATI cards you can't do multiple graphic composting. An easy solution is to log out, and select "gnome" from the session option on the log in screen, log back in and then play WoW. Of course you won't have your graphics while you are like this, but it *should* work depending on your configuration.
[11:59] <milk_> stefg: mucha gracia
[11:59] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ok ill try
[12:00] <cyberphaz> ah crap
[12:00] <Jjohn> Drama4ever: sometimes  #kubuntu can help and it is a lot less crowded than here :)
[12:00] <cyberphaz> ati really isnt that great under linux :p
[12:00] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> and then what ?
[12:00] <heskethj> Does anybody know where I can find a list of !messages?
[12:00] <MajorPayne> Can I set ssh and/or sshd to not require a password between two trushed machines?
[12:00] <GiZiM> !list
[12:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:00] <GiZiM> Holy crap that worked?
[12:00] <GiZiM> Hot damn
[12:00] <liquiddoom> I think it'll also take !factoids
[12:00] <stefg> milk_: BTW if you dare to run gutsy, support is in #ubuntu+1 . and i promise you'll get in trouble
[12:00] <eddie> MajorPayne: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/sshrsakey.html I think thats what you want
[12:01] <MajorPayne> eddie: Heh, I named the machine I am connecting to eddie :-P
[12:01] <tetonca> kathe: look for something different than so far progressed.
[12:01] <eddie> MahorPayne: Haha Why?
[12:01] <Orfeous> im searcing for a CAD/CAM software
[12:01] <mister> hello... i have a problem.. i installed apach2-default... now i dont know how i can use it.. i mean make my own index.html
[12:01] <tommide> hello to all!
[12:01] <Orfeous> and a program like 3d Studio max
[12:01] <eddie> Blender
[12:02] <Orfeous> cad/cam is for cnc routing
[12:02] <cyberphaz> well byebye beryl...guess ill wait till i get an nvidia card
[12:02] <GiZiM> Will it blend?
[12:02] <eddie> haha
[12:02] <MajorPayne> eddie: Duno.  It's a common name.  I would rather type ssh eddie than ssh 192.168 . . .
[12:02] <ketrox> mister googleis your freind
[12:02] <heskethj> cyberphaz, you can still use beryl, just not at the same time as WoW. Unless you wish to use nonXgl (google)
[12:02] <mister> ketrox, ?
[12:03] <pawan> hi
[12:03] <heskethj> Hello pawan
[12:03] <eddie> MajorPayne: Common :o haha
[12:03] <pawan> any good mp3 player for ubuntu
[12:03] <Shoopuf> pawan: Didn't you ask yesterday? :P Try EXAILE
[12:03] <ketrox> mister google or read the documentation in the apache website
[12:03] <ketrox> pwa vlc
[12:04] <ketrox> pawan vlc
[12:04] <pawan> ok
[12:04] <cyberphaz> well aparantly i need to use xgl for my beryl to work on the ati card
[12:04] <cyberphaz> or so im told
[12:04] <eddie> When I try and SSH to my server through its server name... it doesnt work o.0
[12:04] <eddie> I need to use its ip :|
[12:05] <MajorPayne> eddie: You can put it's name in /etc/hosts (the machine you are connecting from).
[12:05] <revilodraw> what percentage of the time does wine perform inadequtely for everyone else?
[12:05] <eddie> Oh right
[12:05] <MajorPayne> eddie: That's what I did.
[12:05] <Dramr4ever> hello here is my problem : i need to manage traffic in my small network i used microsoft isa( internet security and acceleration server) server but it's runnig very slow as my pc is quite old i need webcaching traffic monitoring and bandwidth control and firewall can any body help ???
[12:05] <Jjohn> cyberphaz: yes and it still may not work
[12:05] <Dramr4ever> hello here is my problem : i need to manage traffic in my small network i used microsoft isa( internet security and acceleration server) server but it's runnig very slow as my pc is quite old i need webcaching traffic monitoring and bandwidth control and firewall can any body help ???
[12:05] <cyberphaz> yeah kinda sucks...oh well
[12:05] <heskethj> !search spam > me
[12:05] <ubotu> Found: fawn, usetab, music players, grubrepair, debchroot, swat, ttys, flash9, spec, rescue
[12:05] <cyberphaz> i dont need beryl that much
[12:06] <cyberphaz> if i wanted to reboot for wow i'd stick with windows :P
[12:06] <pawan> how to download new screensaver for ubuntu
[12:06] <eddie> MajorPayne: Cheers that worked
[12:06] <Jjohn> Dramr4ever: did you try asking on kubuntu??
[12:06] <ketrox> pawan try gnome-look.org
[12:07] <Gruelius> Hey everyone, the default gnome wifi manager doesnt work for me, im using a RT2500 chipset. I can see networks but i cant connect
[12:07] <MajorPayne> eddie: It sucks when you have a lot of systems.  I have 4 on my home network.  Not too bad, but that's three entries on each machine I must keep updated.
[12:08] <eddie> MajorPayne: My server PC is right next to me.... I use it for backups ( connected directly through my ethernet )
[12:08] <novato_br> hi, good morning: I'd like know: ubuntu is really secure? 	
[12:08] <novato_br> Which is the type of used criptografia for the password?
[12:08] <ketrox> Gruelius did you try it manually ?
[12:08] <tetonca> eddie: edit ~/.ssh/config
[12:08] <ketrox> i mean with iwconfig
[12:08] <Gruelius> ketrox: i have no idea how to use iwconfig, but with the network tools thing i havent had sucess
[12:08] <novato_br> What is the kind of used cryptographic for the ubuntu password?
[12:09] <ant-> probly md5
[12:09] <x_> i have problem with AZUREUS ... program can't open port ... how i can let it connecting to internet ?!
[12:09] <novato_br> md5 is secure ?
[12:09] <ketrox> disable the roaming mode and try it with iwconfig
[12:09] <chowmeined> i never understood why they sometimes use reversible encryption for shadow passwords
[12:09] <ant-> pretty much
[12:10] <chowmeined> why dont they use sha256 and generate a random salt on first boot
[12:10] <ketrox> x_ check your router
[12:10] <eddie> tetonca: What for?
[12:10] <x_> ketrox   how ?!
[12:10] <eddie> md5 is secure if your password isnt common
[12:10] <Gruelius> x_: portforwarding
[12:10] <ketrox> x_ how are you connected to the internet ?
[12:10] <Gruelius> x_: google port forwarding
[12:11] <x_> System79    hello my friend :-)
[12:11] <System79> x_: Hey X u got another question?
[12:11] <x_> i connecting with ADSL
[12:11] <Gruelius> anyone know about the wireless?
[12:11] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca i did what you told me but nothing... the cd works fine... i tested it on another system... what is wrong with that?
[12:11] <x_> System79 ... yeas dear friend  :-)
[12:11] <ant-> !wifi | Gruelius
[12:11] <ubotu> Gruelius: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:11] <novato_br> but if the ubuntu store the crypt word on menu.list doesnt is it possible make any reverse engeneer ?
[12:11] <System79> x_: tell me :)
[12:11] <liquiddoom> x_: do you see anything at http://192.168.0.1 or http://192.168.1.1?
[12:12] <x_> i'm at start to runung Azureus ... it checking for open port Nr.14707   but it's close
[12:12] <System79> x_: Then you must forward it eh?
[12:13] <liquiddoom> x_: go into your router or ADSL modem's config and open the port up to your machine.
[12:13] <ketrox> x_ type ifconfig in a terminal see your internal ip annd replace the last number with 1 and open it in firefox
[12:13] <Jjohn> My landlord has given me his wireless WEP key a simple five letter pasword. When I enter the key into my network manager I cannot connect even when sitting on top of the router. I could connect to "open" networks so what do you think may be the answer peoples??
[12:13] <tetonca> eddie: to save keystrokes when invoking ssh.
[12:13] <tetonca> kathe: not sure.
[12:13] <x_> Liquiddoom  nope .. i can't see anything
[12:13] <eddie> tetonca: Oh okay
[12:13] <liquiddoom> x_: run tracepath google.com
[12:13] <scorp123> Question: I use a very very old laptop as "MP3 Jukebox" --- via "mpd", the "Music Player Daemon". X11 and "gdm" are disabled. Is there any way I could have some sort of "auto-login" on the console and have a program "auto-start" on one of the tty's (alt+f1, alt+f2, etc.) ... ?
[12:13] <x_> ketrox .. ok   wait
[12:14] <liquiddoom> x_: Tracepath should show you what your router/modem's IP is
[12:14] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca anything in mind?
[12:14] <System79> x_: Open up IFCONFIG in a terminal and find your gateway ip, then fill that in in your browser and you should get in your router
[12:14] <stefg> !upstart
[12:14] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[12:14] <tetonca> eddie: /bin/cat ~/.ssh/config    1: host <nick>  2: HostName <host|IP> 3: User me 4: IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa 5: Protocol 2
[12:14] <novato_br> !md5
[12:14] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:14] <novato_br> |md5
[12:14] <x_> ketrox    inet addr:192.168.1.2
[12:14] <novato_br> ubotu md5
[12:14] <novato_br> ubotu: md5
[12:14] <System79> x_: Open up IFCONFIG in a terminal and find your gateway ip, then fill that in in your browser and you should get in your router
[12:14] <tetonca> kathe: video.  And maybe you're further along than u see.
[12:15] <eddie> tetonca: Okay o.0
[12:15] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> what do you mean?
[12:15] <MajorPayne> novato_br: Easy.  If the bot knows what md5 was he would have responded when you typed !md5.
[12:15] <ketrox> then 192.168.1.1 should work x_
[12:15] <x_> system79 ... ok dear ... wait  :p
[12:15] <tetonca> eddie: ssh-keygen -t dsa   also
[12:15] <eddie> tetonca: What file should I save the key to?
[12:15] <x_> ketrox ... u mean in Azureus i should choosing port 1 ?!
[12:15] <Catoptromancy> Anyone remember how to patch? I use $patch -i filename.diff
[12:16] <ketrox> no
[12:16] <x_> ketrox ... so what ?!
[12:16] <System79> x_: Can you tell me what router you have and what i said succeeded? >.>
[12:16] <novato_br> thx, MajorPayne
[12:16] <Orfeous> i cant get lm-sensors work with my motherboard.. Asus P5B Deluxe vista edition
[12:16] <Orfeous> lm-sensors says it cant find any sensors.
[12:16] <x_> System79     how i can see that ?!
[12:16] <ketrox> i mean http://192.168.1.1 in firefox
[12:16] <novato_br> but why have md5 so little secure?
[12:17] <novato_br> 128bits ??
[12:17] <liquiddoom> Orfeous: You need to do a little magic.
[12:17] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca can i do anything with the video
[12:17] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ?
[12:17] <liquiddoom> !lm-sensors | Orfeous
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lm-sensors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <x_> ketrox ... it's empty
[12:17] <tetonca> eddie: ~/.ssh/id_dsa@host
[12:17] <System79> x_: Your internal IP is 192.168.1.2: Browse to 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.100 if the other one doesnt work
[12:17] <scorp123> Question: I use a very very old laptop as "MP3 Jukebox" --- via "mpd", the "Music Player Daemon". X11 and "gdm" are disabled. Is there any way I could have some sort of "auto-login" on the console and have a program "auto-start" on one of the tty's (alt+f1, alt+f2, etc.) ... ?
[12:17] <HEP85> novato_br: md5 is not used for passwords, but salted DES, which is also not secure, but for authentication it does not matter
[12:17] <Orfeous> liquiddoom: i did the steps in the ubuntu wiki with no success
[12:17] <System79> scorp123: You could do that with a bash file
[12:18] <x_> system79 ... says : Authorization required.
[12:18] <scorp123> System79: how?
[12:18] <eddie> tetonca: I have a key now...
[12:18] <System79> x_: Fill in admin admin
[12:18] <liquiddoom> Orfeous: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[12:18] <tetonca> kathe: what is the system description? laptop?
[12:18] <liquiddoom> Orfeous: That got it working for me
[12:19] <novato_br> HEP85, but if I want my ubuntu with more secure, what Can I do ?
[12:19] <scorp123> System79: I tried via /etc/rc.local ... but that didn't work as expected.
[12:19] <Pulea> hi, error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check what shall i install?
[12:19] <Orfeous> liquiddoom: thank you.. gonna try it
[12:19] <HEP85> novato_br: what do you want more secure? the login?
[12:19] <System79> scorp123: Then i dont really know either =[
[12:19] <x_> System79    it's a ASUS web page   !!!!
[12:19] <novato_br> yep
[12:19] <System79> x_: Wut the ****
[12:19] <tetonca> eddie: the .pub key is for 'authorized_hosts' on the remote side. no password needed then.
[12:19] <scorp123> System79: you see, that's my prob too :-)
[12:19] <ketrox> scorp123  http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[12:20] <System79> x_: Do you have an asus router :$
[12:20] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: its desktop : mobo:asus m2a mvp , 1gb ram , pci-e ati x1600 (sapphire)
[12:20] <scorp123> ketrox: gonna take a look ....
[12:20] <x_> System79   it says : ASUS  RX3041
[12:20] <eddie> tetonca: Sorry for my "newbishness" but now I have the Pub key.... How do I use it? Because SSH stills asks for a password
[12:20] <tetonca> kathe: any chance to put in different video card?
[12:20] <System79> x_: Google it up :x
[12:20] <Jjohn> My landlord has given me his wireless WEP key a simple five letter pasword. When I enter the key into my network manager I cannot connect even when sitting on top of the router. I could connect to "open" networks so what do you think may be the answer peoples??
[12:20] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> no
[12:20] <Meridr1> Qsynaptics doesnt let me specify a corner i can click in to middle click, just "double finger click" but now that I have succesfully middle clicked, it seems like middle click closes windows, how do i disable that, thats dangerous!
[12:21] <x_> system79       ????!!!!!!
[12:21] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: its pci -e
[12:21] <System79> x_: Its a router
[12:21] <System79> x_: Are you in right now?
[12:21] <scorp123> System79: some ASUS network devices will point 192.168.1.1 to www.asus.com or an internal web page of sorts. I have that phenomenon too with ASUS access points ...
[12:21] <pawan> can google earth run on ubuntu
[12:21] <tetonca> eddie: umask 077 && /bin/cat ./thekey > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys [do this on remote side that you will login to] 
[12:21] <System79> scorp123: The type he provided is a router
[12:21] <System79> scorp123: I searched it up :)
[12:21] <ketrox> pawan there is a linux version
[12:21] <Pulea>  error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check  any help with this?
[12:21] <x_> System79    ...  yeah  ... then what ?!
[12:22] <HEP85> novato_br: I have no clue how to do that, sorry
[12:22] <System79> x_: Try this guide: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Asus/RX3041/360Share.htm
[12:22] <eddie> tetonca: aah okay
[12:22] <scorp123> System79: yeap, same thing.
[12:22] <System79> x_: It learns you everything you want to know about port forwarding
[12:22] <GiZiM> Howdy all - Got a quick question i just installed Eggdrop from the Ubuntu Reps. question is... where the crap tasticness is the freaking .conf file at?
[12:22] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: isnt this card supported?
[12:22] <revilodraw> is wine really good and i just cant use it or is it rubbish?
[12:22] <Orfeous> liquiddoom: hmm..
[12:22] <System79> revilodraw: Depends what you want to use it for
[12:23] <scorp123> revilodraw: was your question really serious or are you just trolling around?
[12:23] <System79> revilodraw: It loads most things but some things it doesnt ;x
[12:23] <revilodraw> system79; dont laugh.. lol.. playing a lion king game (retro)
[12:23] <eddie> tetonca: where you have: ./thekey... would that be the key itsself, or the location of the .pub?
[12:23] <tetonca> kathe: most cards will respond to 'vga=normal' in the kernel arguments.
[12:23] <mister> how can i install php on my ubuntu ??? and to use it easy ? please ?
[12:23] <System79> revilodraw: Err.. i dont think games would work really =p
[12:23] <novato_br> HEP85, I want hash of 512bits for example
[12:23] <novato_br> how do Can I do that?
[12:23] <tetonca> eddie: the .pub is the key. the other stays in ~/.ssh/id_dsa@host
[12:23] <revilodraw> system79: what about in a virtual machine>
[12:23] <System79> revilodraw: Wine is mostly for emulation .exe resources so you can run an installer in a .exe etc.
[12:24] <x_> System79   .. it talking about 360Share     which hell i can get it ?!
[12:24] <System79> revilodraw: It might work in VMWare but im not sure
[12:24] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: i have selected the vga mode
[12:24] <Meridr1> does anyone know how to disable middle click closing windows, and enable a windows style drag to scroll thing?
[12:24] <revilodraw> thanks ill try that
[12:24] <System79> x_: 360Share is limewire for linux ;p
[12:24] <System79> x_: Just read under all the 360Share stuff
[12:24] <eddie> tetonca: Sorry, I didnt make my point clear... What I meant was where you have ./thekey do I put my key there... the one seperated with :
[12:24] <pawan> can oracle be installed on ubuntu
[12:24] <eddie> tetonca: the one that was wrote to host.pub
[12:25] <JodiH> hi whats the most reccomended and easiet to mange firewall on ubuntu
[12:25] <x_> system79  ... ok Honey ... don't be angry
[12:25] <tetonca> eddie: the one for host.pub goes on the remote side, renamed to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys with spare permission to access (chmod 600 ./authorized_keys).
[12:25] <factorx> JodiH: iptables
[12:25] <System79> x_: Im not angry :x
[12:26] <eddie> tetonca: Oh right... got you know :)
[12:26] <tetonca> eddie: go do it. working with kathe on the video problem.
[12:26] <skollie> mister_roboto: there are several php packages that can be installed via synaptic. What specifically do you want to do?
[12:26] <JodiH> factorx is managable by a newbie like me
[12:26] <skollie> !iptables | JodiH
[12:26] <ubotu> JodiH: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:26] <scorp123> JodiH: what do you need a firewall for?
[12:27] <System79> scorp123: To be safe cause he thinks hes on windows :D
[12:27] <tetonca> kathe: sounds like it consistently fails the iso boot sequence on that machine but not the other.  On my systems I have that with an burned .iso .. no fix since can't burn on the machine that needs to read the CDROM.
[12:27] <JodiH> just a basic firewall for a small network of 10 people
[12:27] <tetonca> kathe: could ask ubuntu to mail you a good CDROM maybe.
[12:27] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> but the cd rom is ok
[12:27] <scorp123> JodiH: different than Windows most Linux distributions are not running any stupid + unsafe services that are open to the network and that would require a firewall in the first place ....
[12:28] <System79> kathe: http://shipit.ubuntu.com <-- check it out :)
[12:28] <tetonca> kathe: It can be a physical alignment issue.
[12:28] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> if i use the cdrom reader from the other machine?
[12:28] <scorp123> JodiH: if you want to hook up a small network to the internet it may be easier for you if you just bought one small router with built-in NAT and firewall features.
[12:28] <tetonca> kathe: that one should work because it wrote the one it tries to read.
[12:28] <Jjohn> kathe_ti_pou_ana: did you get a distro aproppriatte to you system??
[12:29] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> yes
[12:29] <Jjohn> kathe_ti_pou_ana: OK
[12:30] <tetonca> kathe: you can install another Linux to see what the dmesg says.
[12:30] <tetonca> assuming about eight things are true. ;)
[12:30] <tetonca> kathe: does the machine have a floppy drive?
[12:31] <Orfeous> liquiddoom: didnt work for me
[12:31] <System79> Anyone not being helped yet? >.>
[12:31] <Jjohn> My landlord has given me his wireless WEP key a simple five letter pasword. When I enter the key into my network manager I cannot connect even when sitting on top of the router. I could connect to "open" networks so what do you think may be the answer peoples??
[12:31] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> no
[12:31] <ketrox> Jjohn
[12:31] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca but i can install one
[12:32] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca : why?
[12:32] <ketrox> what wlan hardware are u using ?
[12:32] <tetonca> kathe: what's the last good message the desired iso shows on screen legibly?
[12:32] <diego> Hello
[12:32] <diego> How I can mount a B6T CD Image file?
[12:32] <tetonca> kathe: can boot from floppy; maybe more control over the boot process that way.
[12:32] <diego> With kubuntu
[12:32] <pawan> where to download screensavers for ubuntu
[12:33] <ketrox> diego isomount
[12:33] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: boot from floppy? how do i do that?
[12:33] <diego> ketrox, OK I will try this
[12:33] <Stinker> does anyone here know how to setup network support for vmware?
[12:33] <System79> diego: Otherwise download alcohol 120% for linux
[12:33] <tetonca> kathe: you write a downloaded floppy image to the diskette.  Tools may be provided for use in another operating system to create the boot floppy.
[12:33] <diego> bash: isomount: command not found
[12:33] <Jjohn> ketrox: it is a broadcom running through a ndis wrapper has worked fine your years on open access but as soon as I entered the wep key it does not want to play
[12:34] <diego> And I can't find it in Synaptic
[12:34] <System79> diego: Otherwise download alcohol 120% for linux
[12:34] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: check please this:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ASUS_M2A-MVP.
[12:34] <diego> System79, Ok
[12:34] <ketrox> diego sry Gmount-iso
[12:34] <dystopianray> Jjohn: are you sure it is expecting a password and not a hex key or similar?
[12:35] <Karnaugh> hi
[12:35] <Karnaugh> is it possible to add an ldap user to a local group?
[12:35] <ketrox> Jjohn have you tryd googling it to see if this is a known issue
[12:35] <System79> Jjohn: Is it HEX or ASCII key? and how many bit?
[12:35] <skollie> and Jjohn check whether you can switch between a hex and an ascii key
[12:35] <velko> novato_br, take a look at this: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4846 and this http://www.linux.com/base/ldp/howto/Shadow-Password-HOWTO-2.html if you are interested in ways to improve your security
[12:36] <pawan> how to know which version of ubuntu i am using
[12:36] <Jjohn> dystropianray: my network settings allow for  hexadecimal or ascii I have tried both with no success
[12:36] <Orfeous> liquiddoom: maybe there are some know issues with my motherboard and lm-sensors
[12:36] <tetonca> kathe: checking.
[12:36] <kraut> moin
[12:36] <Jjohn> not sure how to answer multi
[12:37] <skollie> Jjohn: I had a problem where my wireless just stopped working. Reinstalled the ndiswrapper and it worked again
[12:37] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: i m trying smth.. so ill be back soon
[12:37] <diego> ketrox, GIsoMount doesn't work with B6T Image files. I try alcohol
[12:37] <Jjohn> skollie: I may have to try that then. I read that the new kernel has a better wireless stack
[12:38] <tetonca> kathe: (not here) I'd look at ACPI and all that too.
[12:38] <arso> whats the ubuntu channel for compositing?
[12:38] <kero_> arso: compositing musik ?
[12:38] <skollie> Jjohn: not guaranteed that it will work for you, but worth a try. Cannot cause any harm
[12:38] <arso> kero_:  no, compiz n stuff
[12:39] <kero_> ok
[12:39] <Jjohn> System79, simple word password five letters so I assume  ascii
[12:39] <Karnaugh> does users-admin allow you to do ldap control?
[12:39] <freepenguin> hello
[12:39] <dystopianray> Jjohn: the new kernel wireless stack does nothing for ndiswrapper
[12:39] <velko> arso, #ubunt-effects
[12:39] <Jjohn> skollie: fair enough
[12:39] <arso> velko:  ah, thank you
[12:39] <System79> Jjohn: and how many bit is it :/ 128 or 64?
[12:40] <Jjohn> dystropianray: not good
[12:40] <Jjohn> System79, I guess with it being wep 64???
[12:40] <x_> system79    in portforward should i choose TCP or UDP ?!
[12:40] <freepenguin> somebody have Install correctly the wi-fi Usb Pen NETGEAR WG111T with feisty?
[12:41] <System79> x_: Tcp
[12:41] <dystopianray> freepenguin: what wifi chip does it use?
[12:41] <System79> Jjohn: Then fill in your password and set 64 bit ASCII WEP
[12:42] <freepenguin> dystopianray, http://www.netgear.com/Products/Adapters/SuperGWirelessAdapters/WG111T.aspx
[12:42] <Jjohn> System79, I do not get an option of how many bit just  hexadecimal or ascii
[12:42] <dystopianray> freepenguin: that's just marketing junk, doesn't tell me anything
[12:42] <System79> Jjohn: ,,, :|
[12:42] <System79> Jjohn: then i dont know =x are you sure its WEP though?
[12:43] <Jjohn> System79, maybe I need to download a new network manager??
[12:43] <System79> Jjohn: Try it =o
[12:43] <dystopianray> freepenguin: judging from a quick google you'll probably have to use ndiswrapper
[12:43] <arso> can someone help me with emerald? once i removed beryl, and got compiz, it stopped working, and sudo emerald gets me this error :sudo emerald gets me an error : emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
[12:44] <Jjohn> System79, it worked with my windows sad to say
[12:45] <System79> Jjohn: As i said, i have no idea, the standard wireless manager gave me the option of WEP Ascii 64 bit or 128 bit or WEP Hex 64 bit or 128 bit
[12:45] <diego> System79, where I can download Alcohol for Linux?
[12:45] <pawan1234_> how to get new screensaver for ubuntu
[12:45] <dystopianray> pawan1234_: have you installed the xscreensaver packages?
[12:45] <freepenguin> dystopianray, I've tried to use ndisswrapper reading the passages from the Ubuntu forums but there aren't Correct
[12:45] <Jjohn> System79, this is an old distro Dapper drake so maybe i need to upgrade
[12:46] <pawan1234> how to install xscreensaver
[12:46] <System79> Jjohn: I would certaintly upgrade O_O
[12:46] <dystopianray> freepenguin: you just need to get a .sys and .inf file from the windows driver, then $ sudo ndiswrapper -i blah.inf
[12:46] <dystopianray> pawan1234: sudo apt-get install xscreensaver-gl screensaver-gl-extra
[12:46] <kero_> Hello, it is my first time on irc, do you know a french server ?
[12:46] <Jjohn> System79, you have convinced me :-)) thx
[12:46] <freepenguin> dystopianray, yes but don't work
[12:46] <diego> System79, where I can download Alcohol for Linux?
[12:46] <System79> Jjohn: No problem :p
[12:46] <System79> diego: Im searching >.>
[12:47] <dystopianray> freepenguin: no interface is created?
[12:47] <diego> I can't find it on the official Alcohol website
[12:47] <pawan1234> it is saying the screen saver set i newest
[12:47] <tetonca> arso: maybe 'man DISPLAY' or 'man X' like that. read up on $DISPLAY.
[12:47] <dystopianray> diego: what are you trying to do?
[12:47] <DeepBlade> i am having problems with xdmcp.. i am connecting to my ubuntu machine from Mac OSX using X11's 'X', and the keyboard mapping is all messed up.. but the keyboard is fine in the login screen
[12:47] <diego> open a b6T image file
[12:48] <pawan1234> can find package screensaver-gl-extra
[12:48] <System79> diego: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/AcetoneISO-16724.shtml
[12:48] <System79> diego: AcetoneISO seems to be similar :/
[12:48] <freepenguin> dystopianray, the driver are installed but the wi-fi pen is not see by the system and don't work
[12:48] <dystopianray> freepenguin: $ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:48] <ninnghizidha> Ssh-question: How can i remove a RSA Host key in .ssh/know_hosts WITHOUT using an editor?
[12:49] <SiebaZ> hey guys
[12:49] <ccherrett> can you force a package to install without it's dependancies?
[12:49] <tetonca> arso: 'unset DISPLAY' and then 'oclock' shows $DISPLAY must point to the current display to work.  'export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1' would probably restore it. If not close tht xterm and start again.
[12:49] <SiebaZ> is there someone who can help me with MOCP???
[12:49] <System79> ccherett: No u cant
[12:49] <diego> System79, can it handles B6T files?
[12:49] <freepenguin> dystopianray, I've tried the all istruction but don't work
[12:49] <ksivaji>  please someone help me my grub loader trying to boot fat file system and return error http://pastebin.com/d1a9f462d
[12:50] <dystopianray> freepenguin: what does dmesg say?
[12:50] <System79> diego: You'll have to see it they say its alcohol 120% for linux =p
[12:50] <diego> System79, Ok
[12:50] <dystopianray> freepenguin: pastebin your dmesg
[12:50] <Karnaugh> alright nevermind just duplicated the group into ldap
[12:51] <tetonca> ninngh: clever use of 'head' and 'tail' and 'cat' without an editor.
[12:51] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca:?
[12:51] <ksivaji>  please someone help me my grub loader trying to boot fat file system and return error http://pastebin.com/d1a9f462d
[12:52] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: did you check that site?
[12:52] <tetonca> ninngh: also 'egrep -v "the string" ./thefile > ./theModifiedFile'.
[12:52] <jafnoob> hi! how do I get nm-applet to respond more quickly after modprobing wlan module ipw3945? it's in blacklist because it hangs boot.. starting nm-applet manually works but then there's two aplets.. ideas?
[12:52] <System79> ksivaji: I dont see an error just a config >..
[12:53] <tetonca> kathe: yes.  you may need to disable ACPI and/or APM.
[12:53] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: how do i do that?
[12:53] <ksivaji> System79 what do you mean
[12:53] <System79> ksivaji: Is your hard drive partitioned or do you have 2 of them
[12:54] <tetonca> kathe: not sure.  it can be passed as an argument to the kernel in grub if it's set up that way (to accept say 'noacpi' or 'noapm' or both).
[12:54] <System79> G2g >.>
[12:54] <ksivaji> System79 no only one hd
[12:55] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: i modified the kernel by writing agp=off and it passes the black screen i told you but it stops somewhere else... it says hdb atapi cd rom udma33 and then nothing...
[12:56] <tetonca> kathe: that is good progress. excellent.
[12:56] <Jjohn> kathe_ti_pou_ana: sometimes in the time prior to boot you can type in an option then
[12:56] <pawan1234> how to know the ubuntu version
[12:56] <tetonca> kathe: so 'vga=normal agp=off acpi=off apm=off'
[12:56] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ok...
[12:56] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ill try this
[12:56] <tetonca> it's a guess based on the pattern....
[12:57] <Shoopuf> Why can't every program be packaged in a .DEB? If I plan on using Ubuntu should I start getting used to constantly having to compile things?
[12:57] <Jjohn> Shoopuf: No!
[12:58] <tetonca> Shoopuf: only compile when no .deb available.
[12:58] <chowmeined> Shoopuf: which isnt very often
[12:59] <tetonca> Shoopuf: a .deb is an 'ar' archive, 'ar x file.deb' extracts to a few files including the payload:  data.tar.gz.
[12:59] <vikzx86> How do i change the splash screen in Ubuntu??
[12:59] <Jjohn> Shoopuf: I have never compiled in the three years I have ubuntu
[01:00] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: acpi and/... whats the other one?
[01:00] <whazilla> hey
[01:00] <whazilla> i got problems the way fiety installs
[01:01] <_imran_> can anybody tel me how to edit menu.lst please?
[01:01] <whazilla> it first takes 2 hours to boot into live cd
[01:01] <whazilla> then it wont start the installer link
[01:01] <dystopianray> whazilla: why does it take so long?
[01:01] <whazilla> error about hd blocks
[01:02] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca?
[01:02] <whazilla> like a million of them
[01:02] <mtha> hi, can i have some help with bluetooth gprs please? thanks. the problem is that the PIN is being rejected by the phone
[01:02] <tetonca> kathe: yes. back.
[01:02] <ninnghizidha> Hello! I need help with my .ssh/known_hosts-File!
[01:02] <_imran_> can anybody tell me how to edit menu.lst please?
[01:02] <whazilla> but i wanne know why when i click on install it doesnt start the installer
[01:03] <tetonca> kathe: acpi apm
[01:03] <_imran_> mtha, what phone network are you?
[01:03] <whazilla> it just thinks for a second and stops thinking
[01:03] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: thnx for the help it works now!!!
[01:03] <tetonca> kathe: apm is the thing that manages powering low
[01:03] <vistakiller> sudo  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <tetonca> kathe: wow.
[01:03] <_imran_> an someone please tell me how to edit menu.lst
[01:03] <mtha> i am on airtel india
[01:03] <mtha> if i use the data cable, it connects fine
[01:03] <vistakiller> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <tetonca> kathe: that was a good one.
[01:04] <mtha> but on bluetooth, when doing DUN, it fails to pair, whilst it pairs whine when i send stuff from my phone to the laptop
[01:04] <tetonca> It's so much fun when it works.
[01:04] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: i typed adm... so i guess that apm=off is not needed
[01:04] <whazilla> dystopianray u know any ubuntu iso that hasnt got live and installs ?
[01:04] <uplink> g
[01:04] <tetonca> kathe: right. eliminate one by one until it fails again.
[01:04] <dystopianray> whazilla: you relaly should solve your hdd error problem
[01:04] <_imran_> does anybody know the command to get access to menu.lst
[01:05] <whazilla> dystopianray its only on live cds i got that issue
[01:05] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: i typed acpi=off agp=off and vga=normal
[01:05] <pinto> hi!
[01:05] <spikerman> _imran_, sudo 
[01:05] <Jjohn> inran, if you edit menu list it coes back all the time  better to remove the kernels you no longer require
[01:05] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: should i leave it like this?
[01:05] <tetonca> kathe: so now I know .. without ever seeing an ubuntu .iso .. that it is possible to pass arguments to the kernel from the media distributed to the public for general use.
[01:05] <Jjohn> imran, if you edit menu list it coes back all the time  better to remove the kernels you no longer require
[01:05] <_imran_> spikerman, sudo...
[01:05] <pinto> im playng Enemy terrotory, how can i get back to desktop wthout exit the game?
[01:05] <whazilla> so what iso from fiety release isnt a live cd ?
[01:06] <whazilla> pinto u cant
[01:06] <_imran_> spikerman, i think its /boot /grub something
[01:06] <ksivaji> alt+tab
[01:06] <whazilla> unless u got some et minimizer
[01:06] <tetonca> kathe: find out what level of acpi support is available for your hardware.  It may be re-enabled after boot possibly, or addressed during installation.
[01:06] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: how do i find that out?
[01:06] <mtha> _imran_, i am with airtel india, but it connects fine with a data cable. also, it sends stuff from my phone to pc fine with bluetooth
[01:06] <velko> pinto, have you tried to switch to another virtual desktop? like ctrl+alt+f2? i don't know if this works though
[01:06] <whazilla> so what iso from fiesty release isnt a live cd ?
[01:06] <dystopianray> whazilla: ubuntu alternate installer perhaps
[01:07] <spikerman> _imran_, can't you find the path?
[01:07] <whazilla> k thkx
[01:07] <pinto> ksivaji, Alt+Tab dont work
[01:07] <tetonca> kathe: the answer varies; it comes down to reading the kernel documentation.  Linux Kernel Mailing List for example; or ./Documentation or some such in the kernel source .tar.gz file (kernel.org).
[01:07] <_imran_> mtha, what problem are you having again?
[01:07] <pinto> whazilla, im gonna try that
[01:07] <_imran_> spikerman, path for what?
[01:08] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: what is acpi?
[01:08] <tetonca> Kathe: but basically google your hardware with 'ACPI' logically AND'ed together.
[01:08] <tetonca> kathe: I actually have no idea.  probably 'PCI bus' modification?
[01:08] <spikerman> _imran_, I cant't catch your meaning
[01:08] <The1> hi all
[01:09] <mtha> _imran_, when i do pppd call bluetooth on my pc, on my motorola l6 it asks whether it should pair with lenovo. i click yes and enter the passkey and as soon as i press ok, it says invalid pin on my phone and connection refused on my laptop. thanks
[01:09] <The1> Is there any rm to mp3 convertr for ubuntu please
[01:09] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca: acpi is for power management
[01:09] <tetonca> kathe: 'noacpi' or 'acip=off' common disable during installs -- seen that often.
[01:09] <tetonca> Power management chips (silicon) poorly documented to Linux developers maybe.
[01:09] <_imran_> mtha,  try password 0000
[01:10] <_imran_> spikerman, do you how to edit menu.lst?
[01:10] <mtha> _imran_, i have tried that, 1234 and 1
[01:10] <tetonca> I'd find out who's working on ACPI drivers and read their public messages in usenet.
[01:10] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> tetonca thanks
[01:10] <tetonca> kathe: quite welcome.  This was fun.
[01:11] <_imran_> mtha, have you tried leaving it blank?
[01:11] <Rynoo> For some reason, my volume controls went missing. Its not in any menus, nor in my toolbar. Anyone know how I can get them back?
[01:11] <_imran_> does anybody know how to edit menu.lst
[01:11] <Orfeous> liquiddoom: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/AsusFormulaHacking
[01:11] <_imran_> can anybody tell me how to edit menu.lst
[01:11] <spikerman> _imran_, how do you want to change?
[01:11] <mtha> _imran_, there is no 'OK' button in my phone so i ca't leave it blank. as for the laptop, yes, i have tried leaving it blank.
[01:12] <tetonca> _imran: it's under /boot/grub
[01:13] <Jjohn> _imran_: do you want to edit your boot up options?
[01:14] <_imran_> Jjohn, yes but i know how already...sudo gedit /boot/grub menu.lst
[01:15] <Daniel_Kyo> help
[01:16] <MajorPayne> What is the best way to watch .rmvb on Ubuntu.  Do I have to download Real Player?
[01:17] <southafrikanse> hello. I have no sound on Ubuntu
[01:17] <zero-9376> i am unable to change the ownership of a directory even using sudo or as root via sudo -s, i always get permission denied
[01:18] <zero-9376> anyone
[01:18] <velko> zero-9376, so either this is a read only medium or the file system is mounted read only
[01:18] <zero-9376> velko: no i can change ownership of all other files
[01:19] <tetonca> zero what file is it?  ls -la says what (one relevant line only pls)
[01:20] <zero-9376> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root Hex
[01:20] <arso> he guys, i have a movie in .img, how can i mount it >
[01:21] <tetonca> zero try 'rmdir  ../thisdir/Hex'
[01:22] <tetonca> assuming 'rmdir ./Hex' failed in currdir
[01:22] <zero-9376> these are files that were in lost+found after a reiserfsck, and i dont want to delete them
[01:23] <southafrikanse> "echo options snd-hda-intel model-lg | sudo teoa /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base". Doesn't recognize "teoa" what command could it be?
[01:24] <tetonca> zero so 'cp' first. to another directory away from lost+found.  'mkdir ./tmpabc && cd ./tmpabc && cp -p /lost+found/Hex .' (similar could be a typo .. don't really type this; do each step between the ampersands manually).
[01:24] <mpech> re
[01:25] <tetonca> zero should also reboot a few times to resolve any fsck that didn't go off perfectly during boot.
[01:26] <tetonca> Depends what's valuable in the files as to how to proceed most beneficially to you.
[01:26] <tafkaz> hello, i have a simple question i cant find any answers too.... i don't have /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
[01:26] <tobiasu> are you guys nuts? who would replace vi with FUCKING NANO in visudo
[01:26] <tafkaz> i need it to see how agp is used
[01:27] <predaeus> !language | tobiasu
[01:27] <ubotu> tobiasu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:27] <Anlar> tobiasu: everyone. vi is a legacy editor that should have died in 70s already ffs
[01:27] <tafkaz> what is the problem ? What should i have to install
[01:27] <zero-9376> im going to copy the files and then reboot
[01:27] <tobiasu> predaeus: i don't fucking care..
[01:27] <tetonca> tobiasu 'export EDITOR=vim'  'export VISUAL=vim'.
[01:27] <MajorPayne> Anlar: vi is only a legacy editor because there is vim :-P
[01:27] <predaeus> !language | tobiasu
[01:27] <ubotu> tobiasu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:27] <Darksand> hello all
[01:27] <tobiasu> it's called VIsudo for a reason
[01:27] <Jjohn> southafrikanse, is teoa a typo??
[01:28] <Anlar> MajorPayne: yeah that legacy editor too
[01:28] <MajorPayne> Anlar: Nope.
[01:28] <tafkaz> every google search seems to give me cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status as the way to diagnose agp....but there is no /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status...i dont get it
[01:28] <shriphani> folks my / is 100% full.
[01:29] <shriphani> any work around to this.
[01:29] <tetonca> shriphani: good to keep some ballast handy to delete when that happens.
[01:29] <MajorPayne> shriphani: Remove unused files.
[01:29] <IceLink> Hey there
[01:29] <velko> shriphani, try "sudo aptitude clean" first
[01:29] <predaeus> shriphani, try "sudo apt-get clean" for a starter, see "man apt-get" for what it does.
[01:29] <southafrikanse> jjonh: found  the command it was "tee -a" instead of "teoa"
[01:29] <IceLink> Does anybody know any good  midi-Soundfont?
[01:30] <AzMoo> Is there a way I can mount an ISO as a filesystem?
[01:30] <shriphani> AzMoo: mount -o loop what where
[01:30] <rausb0> AzMoo: mount -o loop,ro image.iso /mnt
[01:30] <Jjohn> southafrikanse, good you may have a better response now :-))
[01:30] <AzMoo> wicked, thanks :)
[01:30] <Darksand> could someone help a relative newbie with some graphics issues in ubuntu 7.04?
[01:30] <tafkaz> anyone ?
[01:31] <Daniel_Kyo> help
[01:31] <Jjohn> Darksand< just ask if some one knows they will answer
[01:31] <predaeus> IceLink, try http://www.hammersound.net/   I got http://www.hammersound.net/cgi-bin/soundlink.pl?action=view_download_page;ID=72;SoundFont_Location_Selected=Download%20UK;SoundFont_Filename_Selected=Ultimate.zip  from there but its not that great.
[01:32] <tetonca> tafkaz it may need to be created with 'echo' but that's iffy.  Not sure you can write to /proc and create the file.  Can modify /proc tho.  'echo "1" > /proc/this/and/that
[01:32] <IceLink> predaeus: does it suffice all GM-Inbstuments?
[01:32] <mpech> can somebody nmap me?
[01:32] <mpech> go to private
[01:32] <Jjohn> Darksand,  just ask if some one knows they will answer
[01:32] <shriphani> velko: can i move a dir like /usr to somewhere else or so ?
[01:32] <predaeus> IceLink, sorry I do not know, I am a midi newb. I found it at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736
[01:33] <tafkaz> tetonca: yeah but isnt it supposed to just be there ?
[01:33] <Darksand> well Im running 7.04 on this commell lv-671 http://www.commell.com.tw/Product/SBC/LV-671.HTM mainboard, and my 2d grapics are extreemly slow, cant even play vid, have run DSL and it was way faster, cant seem t find any answers on it, looking for more then a month now
[01:33] <IceLink> predaeus: okay, thanks
[01:33] <southafrikanse> I don't have sound. When I press my volume tuner it doesn't go more than 10%
[01:33] <rausb0> tetonca: echo cannot create files in /proc. /proc is not a real file system.
[01:33] <tetonca> tafkaz: no clue about that particular one no.  Maybe so!
[01:33] <velko> shriphani, yes. and create a link named "/usr" to it
[01:33] <rausb0> tetonca: all entries in /proc are provided by the kernel
[01:33] <shriphani> hmm so a simple cp -r will do the trick ?
[01:33] <tetonca> shriphani: generally boot to a 2nd root filesystem before moving /usr and linking it to standard location.
[01:33] <tafkaz> rausb0: there must be some way to see it...
[01:34] <tetonca> rausb0 I know but didn't know for sure if you can create. tnx.
[01:34] <tafkaz> lsmod | grep agp
[01:34] <tafkaz> agpgart                35400  1 nvidia
[01:34] <tafkaz> so i guess it should be there
[01:34] <Jjohn> southafrikanse, Make sure your Master volume is set at a level you can hear then adjust with the program you are running
[01:35] <rausb0> tafkaz: the nvidia driver (as part of the kernel) is responsible for creating that /proc entry. if it doesn't do that, it is maybe a different version of the nvidia driver. i don't have any nvidia card, so i cannot tell.
[01:35] <tetonca> tafkaz: may need a kernel build or a module.
[01:35] <tafkaz> hm...
[01:36] <southafrikanse> Jjohn: I think the Master volume is working fine
[01:36] <rausb0> tafkaz: at least some module called "nvidia" is loaded
[01:36] <tafkaz> hehe right!
[01:36] <kanpachi> hello feisty runs a bit sluggish on my machine compared to dapper, i have an athlon xp 2800 512 ram and an nvidia geforce 4 mx, when i say sluggish i mean, it's pretty fast, but i can't even run epiphany+quodlibet together since it starts drawing the windows slower, maybe i need to install the nvidia-glx-legacy?
[01:37] <Phuein> *cries* opensuse just died on me when i installed a bad nvidia driver :'(
[01:37] <Jjohn> southafrikanse, What about the volume on the program you are running?
[01:37] <tafkaz> actually glxgears shows me, that the prop driver seems to work
[01:37] <rausb0> tafkaz: but you have to check which one it is. i remember there are three different "generations" of nvidia binary drivers.
[01:37] <FurryNemesis> kandinski, let me check that for you
[01:37] <southafrikanse> Jjohn: It's 86%
[01:37] <tafkaz> but i have strange issues with mythtv...
[01:37] <Phuein> and when trying to install Ubuntu it gave me that common error right after GRUB runs :'(
[01:37] <tafkaz> and i think it must have something to do wit agp
[01:37] <Jjohn> southafrikanse, Sorry I know no more than that
[01:38] <tetonca> tafkaz: time to comb the kernel source.
[01:38] <southafrikanse> Jjohn: No problem, I'm going to google about it
[01:38] <tafkaz> rausb0: i have installed the latest one with envy this script that loads the newest one
[01:38] <tafkaz> but i treid also with the ubuntu nvidia-new
[01:38] <rausb0> tafkaz: the envy script is not supported i guess
[01:38] <FurryNemesis> kanpachi, yes, the legacy module is the one you want
[01:38] <rausb0> tafkaz: the ubuntu package way is
[01:38] <FurryNemesis> I have a 460 mx go, works fine for me
[01:39] <Anlar> Phuein: sudo grub, then "root (hd0,0)" and "setup (hd0)", assuming your boot partition is the first partition on first disc (adjust numbers accordingly, first one is disc, second one partition).. actually the installation otherwise succeeded
[01:39] <tafkaz> rausb0: i know...i tried before, but the same issue !
[01:39] <kanpachi> thanx
[01:39] <rausb0> tafkaz: but i better shut up now and let someone help who owns a nvidia card..
[01:39] <tafkaz> so i thought that maybe i would give the newest one a go !
[01:39] <tafkaz> lol ok !
[01:39] <pawan> how to change broadband connection name
[01:40] <Phuein> Anlar: im talking about the grub before installing, not after. Right when trying to load live cd...
[01:40] <IceLink> predaeus: did you try crisis? it'S about 100MB and has some dumb things but also some very good instruments
[01:40] <pawan> is wubi origional version of ubuntu
[01:40] <shriphani> okay this might be a stupid question, a lightweight web-browser which supports frames.
[01:40] <Anlar> Phuein: THAT grub? uhh.. that's really rare, must have ssomething to do with your bios/chipset :o you could try enabling all legacy support options in your bios..
[01:41] <rausb0> shriphani: dillo
[01:41] <predaeus> IceLink, nah, I don't remember that one.
[01:41] <FurryNemesis> shriphani, kazehakaze
[01:41] <predaeus> IceLink, but I will try it thanks
[01:41] <rausb0> shriphani: at least the dillo version in feisty. standard dillo doesn't support frames.
[01:41] <Phuein> Anlar: :S i saw some people talkin about the wiring of the harddrives... but i should be alright on that. It didnt happen with the older Ubuntu. Im just unlucky :'( (been through 10 distros as a noob linuxer)
[01:42] <tetonca> shriphani: people mention 'opera' a lot.  Dunno if it is small.
[01:42] <shriphani> small footprint yes.
[01:42] <Anlar> Phuein: you can't buy a Fiat Punto and expect it to perform like Ferrari Enzo
[01:42] <tetonca> shriphani: can nav frames somewhat in lynx.
[01:42] <fahman_dude> hi dudes, I have ben playing with my network and now have two pppoe connections - "ppp0" and "ppp1". I'd like to get rid of inactive one. Does anybody has an idea how could I do that? (ifconfig nopaste -> http://phpfi.com/251419)
[01:42] <shriphani> rausb0: so the feisty dillo supports frames ?
[01:43] <rausb0> shriphani: yes. frames, https support. no java script though.
[01:43] <unix4me> how do I set the installer to have 1/2 of my hd ubuntu and the other half windows?
[01:44] <ikonia> unix4me: you use different hard disk partitions
[01:44] <unix4me> ikonia: the problem is that during install when I do that, the installer freezes up
[01:44] <tetonca> fahman_dude: try 'ifconfig ppp0 down'
[01:44] <cadu> hello guys, how can i put ubuntu in single-user mode? i wanna umount /home (resize it with parted) but it keeps blocking me with "busy"...
[01:44] <ikonia> unix4me:are you sure its not just taking a long time to partition your disk
[01:44] <Phuein> Anlar: my hardware may be simple and cheap (cheap intel motherboard, geforce 4 mx440 etc), but if Windows can set me up quick and good, then any of today's OSs should be able to do the same, atleast similarly - agree?
[01:45] <rolfen> cadu telinit 1
[01:45] <unix4me> ikonia: so it does the partitioning before actual installation?
[01:45] <ikonia> cadu: add the lword  single to your grub boot options
[01:45] <ikonia> cadu: or use the rescue option
[01:45] <ikonia> cadu: or boot from the cd
[01:45] <ikonia> unix4me: of course - otherwise its got no-where to intstall too
[01:45] <unix4me> Phuein: xubuntu might be good for you, perhaps
[01:45] <rolfen> or type sudo telinit 1, that will put you into single mode
[01:46] <unix4me> ikonia: I see. Thanks for your help :)
[01:46] <fahman_dude> cheers tetonca
[01:46] <Phuein> unix4me: how come? whats the difference?
[01:46] <Anlar> Phuein: couldn't care less, I'm elitistic :) but, you should post as much information as you ever can about that on launchpad so that they can make sure gutsy (released in couple months ...) will work
[01:46] <Darksand> My commell mainbord has an Intel 855GME GMECH Built-in Extreme Graphics, my ubuntu gui is extreemly slow. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:46] <tetonca> 'sulogin' gives that Control-D for root password prompt on some distributions.
[01:46] <Phuein> Anlar: *cries*
[01:47] <unix4me> Phuein: Xubuntu was built with the XFCE windowing environment. XFCE allows you to have better performance on older/cheaper hardware.
[01:47] <Anlar> Phuein: you get any special errors?
[01:48] <tetonca> I have to fade. 73 all around.
[01:48] <Phuein> unix4me: oh my gear is strong enough.. just cheap and pretty old comparably ;) works fine with gnome/kde tho
[01:48] <unix4me> Phuein: Oh, Ok. So are you having trouble with Ubuntu? It seems like that's what you were trying to say.
[01:50] <mpech> what part of ubuntu uses python and needs help for testing and programming ?
[01:50] <Phuein> Anlar: couldnt get my Edimax usb wifi card (zd1211 argh) to work on like 10 distros (after several days of tuts etc). Then when openSUSE 10.2 actually showed me some magic (had to install zd1211 firmware even there), i had lots of bugs with packages, eg the nvidia system killer :(
[01:50] <unix4me> mpech: try #ubuntu-devel
[01:50] <unix4me> mpech: I think you might get better information there.
[01:51] <mpech> ok
[01:51] <mpech> join #ubuntu-devel
[01:51] <[swb] > hello all
[01:51] <[swb] > is there a place for feature requests?
[01:52] <Anlar> Phuein: zd1211 is problematic always, but possible. I've helped someone to get it running once... nvidia problems can be always fixed.. the one that you have with the ubuntu's cd is worse. you could install "ubuntu server" for the older version.. then, instantly after installation, upgrade it from network to feisty. and after that, install "ubuntu-desktop". a bit long route but should just work
[01:52] <unix4me> [swb] : perhaps in #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-devel
[01:53] <pawan> how to know version of ubuntu
[01:54] <Phuein> Anlar: im sure you would agree that that is a totally wrong way of doing things for a considerabley good and simple (and smart?) linux distro of 2007 :S
[01:54] <mpech> pawan: cat /etc/issue
[01:54] <[swb] > unix4me, cheers
[01:54] <Anlar> Phuein: most of the devels and users have 2007 hardware to test with, and just couple older machines to check backwards compatibility anymore...
[01:55] <Nuktar> hello! i've i question! my firefox is slow, i don't like opera either. Can someone advice a graphical browser?
[01:55] <TonnyB> join
[01:56] <unix4me> Nuktar: maybe epiphany
[01:56] <Anlar> Nuktar: try the epiphany? the renderer is the same that firefox has (gecko) but the rest is "simplified"
[01:56] <Nuktar> no, it's firefox based and it is slow too
[01:56] <Phuein> Anlar: never the less, having machines from 2000 and newer not be simply compatible, including similar hardware - now thats ridiculous. There should atleast be a quicky script DB, instead of spending days on learning the different linux commands and bins :S no?? am i too accustomed to windows already?
[01:56] <pawan> what is /n/l means in ubuntu version
[01:56] <Nuktar> just something independent
[01:57] <mpech> pawan: ignore
[01:57] <pawan> ok
[01:57] <Nuktar> what about flock ?
[01:57] <Anlar> Phuein: there's really no "similar hardware" when you start working with the hardware drivers... it's really complicated stuff and even the slightest difference can prove fatal
[01:57] <pawan> how to download screensaver for ubuntu
[01:58] <dr_willis> pawan,  fire up the package manager, search for screensaver. theres a lot in there, thats not isntalled by default
[01:58] <awsoonn> where can I find themepacks for ubuntu?
[01:58] <pawan> how to start package manager
[01:58] <Phuein> Anlar: but somehow the windows teams managed ? or is it because they have the vendors on their side as often said? (but often seems exeggerated)
[01:58] <Nuktar> gnome-look.org, see section gtk 2.x
[01:58] <pawan> screensaver
[01:58] <awsoonn> System>prefs>Theme
[01:58] <eboxnet> hi
[01:58] <awsoonn> ok
[01:59] <Anlar> Phuein: microsoft generalyl doesn't touch drivers and hardware support at all. it's the hardware vendors.
[01:59] <vikku> How to install desktop in Ubuntu Server ed 7.04
[01:59] <Anlar> vikku sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:00] <Nuktar> no linux browser except firefox? It doesn't surprise me that some people hate Linux. Why do they ship it preinstalled ? I hate it!
[02:00] <vikku> when i do : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop , it says no such package
[02:00] <liquiddoom> Nuktar: There are a few other browsers.
[02:01] <Toma-> Nuktar: kubuntu ships with konqueror?
[02:01] <wizek> how can i format an ntfs partition from linux?
[02:01] <lsproc> im trying to transfer photos from my olympus c-3030z, but it keeps reporting io errors (mainly as its detecting the wrong camera)
[02:01] <Toma-> Nuktar: theres about 6 others easily available
[02:01] <Nuktar> like what ? i mean ubuntu>
[02:01] <liquiddoom> Nuktar: Konqueror, Dillo, and Epiphany for a few.
[02:01] <vikku>  Anlar: when i do : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop , it says no such package
[02:01] <Toma-> Galeon
[02:01] <abo> hi, I installed Ubuntu on a new Disk, and now I cannot connect to the internet, I restarted and logged in into the previous installation.. and everything looks fine, what is needed to be configured?
[02:02] <liquiddoom> Nuktar: Opera also works under linux
[02:02] <Nuktar> yea, I used it, but it's too fat for my ram.
[02:02] <MajorPayne> Nuktar: links ?
[02:03] <MajorPayne> Nuktar: That should be fast.
[02:03] <Nuktar> downloading dillo....
[02:03] <abo> can anyone help me configure my internet connection with ubuntu?
[02:03] <wers> how do I hack evolution and kontact for them to share PIM data?
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[02:03] <Toma-> Nuktar: how much ram do you have
[02:04] <vikku> when i do : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop , it says no such package ....pls guide what to do to install desktop in Ubuntu Server ed 7.04
[02:04] <Nuktar> 256, but i like doing lots of things at a time...
[02:04] <Toma-> Nuktar: what DE are you uing? xfce?
[02:05] <Nuktar> nope, ubuntu
[02:05] <Toma-> Nuktar: thats the problem.
[02:05] <abo> Nuktar, I can't connect to the web, it looks like a dns problem (if I do ping www.google.com it says unknown host), I'm connected through a dsl modem using ethernet card... (at this moment I'm working with another installation of Ubuntu.. the other one does not work)
[02:05] <Toma-> Nuktar: if you want blistering speeds, try fluxbox, or even e17
[02:05] <Nuktar> it doesn't find dillo in add/remove
[02:06] <Nuktar> i've read the howto for fluxbox on ubuntuguide but i cant figure it out
[02:06] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install fluxbox, then select fluxbox from the login screen.
[02:06] <dr_willis> or install 'xubuntu-desktop' for a full lighter desktop
[02:07] <Nuktar> thanks, but how can i make it default
[02:07] <Toma-> Nuktar: im developing an ubuntu based tweak that turns ubuntu into a powerhouse on a 64mb ram machine. even with firefox
[02:07] <MajorPayne> links is the fastest browser that I know of.
[02:07] <dr_willis> telnet google.com:80
[02:07] <dr_willis> :)
[02:08] <Nuktar> no, i'm far from developing. I just kill my time browsing and watching internet videos
[02:08] <Toma-> Nuktar: you wont be watching much with dillo
[02:08] <vikku> when i do : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop , it says no such package ....pls guide what to do to install desktop in Ubuntu Server ed 7.04
[02:08] <dr_willis> Toma-,  i was about to say that. :)
[02:08] <Toma-> :P
[02:08] <dr_willis> !info ubuntu-desktop
[02:08] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.43 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[02:09] <Toma-> ive got a 64mb ram system, with X, a full DE, firefox and myspace running fine. not super snappy, but usable
[02:09] <dr_willis> vikku,  odd.. try an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, then try installing it again.
[02:09] <MajorPayne> dr_willis: Install size is 44 kB?
[02:09] <dr_willis> Toma-,  using Puppylinux or DSL, or Featherlinux for that here on some olkd box's :)
[02:09] <dr_willis> MajorPayne,  its a meta-packagage.
[02:10] <Toma-> dr_willis: yeh i was tempted, but the user im making it for wants easy to use
[02:10] <vikku> but i think i'll have to have myy internet working .... its not working in ubuntu
[02:10] <MajorPayne> dr_willis: I know that.  But they should maybe say it is a meta package instead of showing the size.  That can be a bit misleading.
[02:10] <Nuktar> what's the name of the process which installs stuff. I've canceled a install and it says that dpkg is corrupt
[02:10] <r0n22> Hey guys I just have a question about using wireshark on ubuntu
[02:10] <dr_willis> Toma-,  trying out the latest puppy, and feather last night. :) they both are very easy. but it all depends on your needs.
[02:10] <vikku> dr_willis:but i think i'll have to have myy internet working for apt-get update... its not working in ubuntu
[02:11] <dr_willis> vikku,  yep.. networking needs to be net-working, not 'not-working' :)
[02:11] <Toma-> dr_willis: basically, install and leave. MSN (via gaim) Myspace (via firefox) and Word processong (via abiword)
[02:11] <vikku> but i think i'll have to have myy internet working .... its not working in ubuntu how do i make it work ?
[02:12] <dr_willis> depends on what sort of networking you are talking about vikku
[02:12] <netyire> anyone know how to join 2 mp3 files, is it possible with lame?
[02:12] <dr_willis> that reminds me - i need to go track down a new wireless router.
[02:12] <Nuktar> E: The package secondlife-install needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[02:12] <Orfeous> just cant get this shit working with lm-sensors.. i have tried all kinds of guides but no success
[02:12] <dr_willis> Nuktar,  you installed it last time from a deb, you downloaded from the secondlife website? if so.. redownload it and reinstall it.
[02:12] <vikku> i have adsl router in my comp ... and its connected to my comp thru USB
[02:13] <MajorPayne> !ohmy | Orfeous
[02:13] <ubotu> Orfeous: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:13] <Nuktar> what should i do to make it disappear? installing again is not an option
[02:13] <dr_willis> vikku,  usb? ICK. cant use a normal network card/conection for it?
[02:13] <Orfeous> when i try to load the chipmodule manually it doesnt exist in my modulearchive
[02:13] <vikku> dr_willis: thats what ISP provided  !!
[02:13] <dr_willis> vikku,  does the thing even have a network conector on the back?
[02:13] <netyire> anyone know how to join 2 mp3 files, is it possible with lame?
[02:13] <vikku> dr_willis: lemme see
[02:14] <Toma-> netyire: here, i use audacity for simple little things like that
[02:14] <dr_willis> the cable guys here even say "DONT use the usb conector's" :)
[02:14] <netyire> Toma-: Thanks!
[02:14] <Toma-> netyire: then you can normalize if one is louder than the other
[02:14] <Toma-> np!
[02:14] <netyire> :D
[02:15] <Toma-> Is it possible to tweak the CPU speed down in a virtualbox?
[02:15] <dr_willis> Toma-,  hmm.. cant say taht ive seen that feature in vmware, or virtualbox.
[02:15] <Toma-> dang. might try adjusting its nice value then
[02:16] <Jjohn> Vikku, how long is that usb cable???
[02:17] <r0n22> in WIreshark i dont seem to get any other traffic then what my computer sends out
[02:17] <r0n22> for a wired network
[02:17] <vikk1> dr_willis: and Jjohn: USB is very short around 70cms
[02:18] <Orfeous> anyone here that have experiences with lm-sensors and asus p5b deluxe vista edition?
[02:18] <vikk1> dr_willis: and Jjohn: its like
[02:18] <dr_willis> :)
[02:18] <Orfeous> cant get it working myself
[02:18] <dr_willis> less then 3 ft. :)
[02:18] <Jjohn> Vikku, so you can use network cable?
[02:18] <thifaqah> I'm Feeling Better To Be Here :-)
[02:18] <dr_willis> Sit down, take a load off...
[02:18] <IdleOne> I dont remember the command to list all running processes :?
[02:19] <vikk1> dr_willis: and Jjohn: my networking skills are nearly equal to Not- working  :)
[02:19] <dr_willis> IdleOne,  'ps ax' is what i normally
[02:19] <MajorPayne> dr_willis: The english use cm.
[02:19] <dr_willis> use
[02:19] <dr_willis> MajorPayne,  its a conspericy! :)
[02:19] <IdleOne> dr_willis, ty I guess I had a brain spasm lol
[02:19] <dr_willis> In countrys that use the metric system.. do the kids learn fractions in school?
[02:19] <Jjohn> Vikku, all you need to do is plug in each end and make sure cable is not crossover
[02:19] <MajorPayne> dr_willis: Yea.
[02:19] <spikerman> who know network bridge ,i input command "brctl addif br0 eth0",then the pppoe connection lost
[02:20] <MajorPayne> dr_willis: How could you go about not learning fractions?
[02:20] <dr_willis> MajorPayne,  heck. im still wondering how the stepdaughter/son can graduate highschool, and barely be able to read.
[02:20] <daedra> I use the metric system - I learned fractions
[02:20] <MajorPayne> daedra: Same with me.
[02:21] <vikk1> Jjohn:  Already checked that ...its fine there
[02:21] <spikerman> who know network bridge ,i input command "brctl addif br0 eth0",then the pppoe connection lost,who can tell me why
[02:21] <Jjohn> Vikk1, so you are on line now?
[02:22] <daedra> I'm trying to learn Perl but it seems so weird to start from "Hello, World" etc..
[02:22] <MajorPayne> daedra: What do you mean?
[02:22] <daedra> I think the best way to learn is to look at examples, pull them apart etc
[02:22] <vikk1> in winxp .... well deperately trying to have my ubuntu work in another HDD ie hdc
[02:22] <Anlar> daedra: perl is one of the most useless things you can ever learn, do something more useful with your time
[02:22] <Jjohn> daedra, all the programming langauges seem to do that
[02:23] <daedra> lol
[02:23] <daedra> I'm learning it. There's no stopping me
[02:23] <Jjohn> jjohn is struggling with python :(
[02:23] <Thursley> <-- c and ruby :D
[02:23] <MajorPayne> In a way I liked Perl because I knew C and it really wasn't that different.  Basicly the extent of me learning perl was learning do use perldoc -f function.
[02:24] <Nuktar> i installed fluxbox, how can i change resolution
[02:24] <MajorPayne> daedra: Make sure you install perldoc, best thing for lerning perl.
[02:24] <pawan> how to install tar.gz file
[02:25] <daedra> Anlar: What languages would you say ARE useful then
[02:25] <daedra> MajorPayne: OK. I've got "Programming Perl" by Larry Wall
[02:25] <Thursley> pawan, you extract them: tar zxvf name.tar.gz
[02:25] <Anlar> daedra: abap, java, c#, for the reason that you can build stuff that is reusable on business logic level pretty nicely with them
[02:25] <Frogzoo> anyone got tips to tune Quake 4 performance up to something playable?
[02:25] <aa^way> heyy, how to be sure that VSync is turned off?
[02:25] <pawan> extract where
[02:26] <Thursley> pawan, man tar
[02:26] <Jjohn> MajorPayne,  Do you think Perl is easier than Python for a non programmer??
[02:26] <MajorPayne> daedra: Ahh.  I don't know about that.  I'm sure it's a great book.  But perldoc is free, and at the very least it is a good reference for after you read the book.  Kinda like the man pages for perl.
[02:26] <Frogzoo> Jjohn: I'd say so
[02:26] <pawan> after extraction
[02:26] <pawan> i extracted to pawan1234
[02:26] <MajorPayne> Jjohn: Didn't learn any Python yet.  But from what people say Python is a great language.
[02:26] <daedra> Jjohn: well it's easy for me and all I know is VB.NEt
[02:27] <Thursley> pawan, look at the files, and see if there is a readme or other instructions
[02:27] <Nuktar> dillo- the worse browser ever
[02:27] <Jjohn> Frogzoo, MajorPayne,daedra, Maybe I should take a look
[02:27] <aa^way> heyy, how to be sure that VSync is turned off?
[02:29] <pawan> where is command line
[02:29] <IdleOne> !cli | pawan
[02:29] <ubotu> pawan: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:29] <pawan> it is saying type make install from command line
[02:29] <r0n22> has anyone used wireshark in here?
[02:29] <Nuktar> can i install epiphany without/apart from firefox?
[02:30] <Thursley> Nuktar, yes
[02:30] <Nuktar> how can i do that ?
[02:30] <zero1328> hey, I just got this wierd problem with knetworkmanager and I don't really know how I should search for it on the db
[02:30] <Thursley> Nuktar, open synatic from System -> Admin
[02:30] <IdleOne> Nuktar, sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[02:30] <Thursley> or that
[02:31] <zero1328> basically it says network manager isn't running, with the disconnect symbol there and all..
[02:31] <Nuktar> nope, it install both
[02:31] <daedra> MajorPayne: how do you use this perldoc?
[02:32] <Thursley> Nuktar, I guess it depends on firefox then : / my bad
[02:32] <zero1328> I don't  really understand what I did exactly to get it into this state and I don't know how to make it "running" again
[02:32] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> i installed ubuntu but after grub loads i get a black screen /... can someone help me?
[02:33] <pawan> how to install xmms equilizer
[02:33] <pawan> it is in tar.gz format
[02:33] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: first see if pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1 brings you to a login prompt
[02:33] <Thursley> im off, bye
[02:33] <MajorPayne> daedra: For a starters you can type "perldoc perltoc".
[02:33] <Enselic> pawan: extact it and follow installation instructions in INSTALL
[02:34] <zero1328> um, some help, please? I'm clearly connected to the net, and the manual window says it is.. but I don't understand why it doesn't show that in the tray
[02:34] <MajorPayne> daedra: Or if you need information on a specific function you can type "perldoc -f functionName".
[02:34] <rolfen> pawan: to extract: gunzip filename.tar.gz
[02:34] <rolfen> pawan: then tar -xf filename.tar
[02:34] <pawan> i right clicked and extracted to pawan1234
[02:34] <pawan> then
[02:34] <pawan> there are many files there
[02:34] <rolfen> see if there is INSTALL
[02:34] <Enselic> rolfen: in that case        tar -zxcvf file.tar.gz     would be easier
[02:35] <Enselic> rolfen: -zxvf
[02:35] <rolfen> okay :) didnt know that...
[02:35] <zero-9376> i am using an external drive with reiserfs, i dont want to mess with fstab as this is only temporary how can i mount the drive so that i can manipulate files?
[02:35] <rolfen> thanks
[02:35] <rolfen> zero-9376: you dont get the option of mounting it in gnome?
[02:36] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt work
[02:36] <zero-9376> rolfen: yes but it wont let me change the files
[02:36] <Jjohn> zero1328, that happens for me too but if I log on as a different user (my grandaughter) then the thing sows in the tray thats all  know sorry :((
[02:36] <rolfen> ah ok
[02:36] <pawan> how to cd to directory xmms
[02:36] <Jjohn> shows
[02:36] <pawan> or pawan1234
[02:36] <nbjayme> hello all. got a problem when upgrading from edgy to fiesty.... http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1001/868946523_f95019530d_o.jpg
[02:36] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: ok, thinking...
[02:36] <nbjayme> how to fix it?
[02:36] <zero1328> erm.. if no one's willing to help, I'm just gonna reboot to see what happens. be back in a tick
[02:36] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: try ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:37] <Nuktar> new record : 19 seconds www.google.com, @ 64kbit/s. that's not normal. I hate mozilla engine. help
[02:37] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: and ctrl+alt+d
[02:37] <rolfen> pawan: use cd
[02:37] <pawan> after cd
[02:37] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> the system is stuck... ie the keybord doesnt work... when i press capslock it doesnt do anything...
[02:37] <zero-9376> i can make files in the subdirectories which i own, but not in the 'root' directory of the mount
[02:37] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: ah thats a system hang
[02:38] <pawan> it is coming back to dollar prompt
[02:38] <rolfen> pawan that is beyond my competences
[02:38] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: you'll have to fix that with a live CD
[02:38] <dr_willis> zero-9376,  thats how i set up 'data drives' for my users. They dont need tobe accessing the root of the drives
[02:38] <AnAnt> Hello, I got a machine that I want to run as a router, I want packets entering from eth0 to be forwarded to eth1 , how to do that ?
[02:38] <rolfen> pawan: ok
[02:38] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: but i just installed linux
[02:38] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: I know - sux huh
[02:38] <rolfen> pawan: you need to find the complete path to the forlder you want to cd to
[02:39] <DeepBlade> i am having problems with xdmcp.. i am connectecting to my ubuntu machine from Mac OSX using X11's 'X', and the keyboard mapping is all messed up.. but the keyboard is fine in the login screen
[02:39] <zero-9376> dr_willis: how can i make the root of the mount writable, as i said earlier preferably without messing with fstab
[02:39] <pawan> how to find it
[02:39] <rolfen> for example /home/pawan/Desktop/pawan1234
[02:39] <rolfen> something like that
[02:39] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: i read on the net that if you have an ati videocard it has a problem... i have an ati
[02:39] <zero1328> ok, back
[02:39] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: do you get to see the grub bootloader?
[02:39] <zero1328> um, hrm.. looks like its back to normal
[02:40] <pawan> doen it
[02:40] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: it says loading grub .... please wait... and then nothing... just a black screen
[02:40] <zero1328> I only tried restarting the X-server last time, but a reboot worked for some reason
[02:40] <pawan> then
[02:40] <pawan> but the prompt has not changed to pawan1234
[02:40] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: the only think I can see you being able to do is live booting into the system
[02:40] <rolfen> pawan: type pwd
[02:40] <rolfen> you wil see in which directory you are
[02:41] <zero1328> don't have any idea on what I did though..
[02:41] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra : and then?
[02:41] <pawan> it is sayin /home/pawan1234
[02:41] <mind-shift> HELP! I can't get DC (direct connect) to work, do I have to do something special, is something blocking the traffic?
[02:41] <rolfen> okay... what is the directory you want to change to?
[02:42] <pawan> eq-xmms-0.7
[02:42] <pawan> in /home/pawan1234
[02:42] <pawan> i extracted the files there
[02:42] <rolfen> that is /home/pawan1234/eq-xmms-0.7
[02:42] <pawan> yes
[02:42] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: then modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:42] <rolfen> type cd /home/pawan1234/eq-xmms-0.7
[02:43] <rolfen> or cd eq-xmms-0.7
[02:43] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: what card have you got by the way?
[02:43] <rolfen> did it work/
[02:43] <rolfen> ?
[02:43] <pawan> yes it has changed
[02:43] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: and how do i modify that? ati x1600
[02:43] <pawan> now how to install
[02:43] <rolfen> pawan what does it say in INSTALL
[02:44] <dr_willis> zero-9376,  not sure its doable. without some special fstab options, thats why i always set up the data drive for my users whit their own directories. I then link those user directories to the users /home/username/extrastorage dirs :)
[02:44] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: ok, once you're in the livecd desktop, you'll need to mount the harddrive your original linux install is on
[02:44] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: and?
[02:44] <zero-9376> ok i just made a directory and was going to change the owner of that to me and put everything in it so that i could mess with the files but i cannot change the owner of the directory to my user EVEN USING SUDO
[02:44] <shezif> i need someone that manager the loco team
[02:44] <pawan> 1. `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type
[02:44] <pawan>      `./configure' to configure the package for your system.  If you're
[02:44] <pawan>      using `csh' on an old version of System V, you might need to type
[02:44] <pawan>      `sh ./configure' instead to prevent `csh' from trying to execute
[02:44] <pawan>      `configure' itself.
[02:44] <pawan>      Running `configure' takes awhile.  While running, it prints some
[02:44] <daedra> now navigate to that drive
[02:45] <pawan>      messages telling which features it is checking for.
[02:45] <zero-9376> or root via sudo -s
[02:45] <dr_willis> zero-9376,  what filesystem is this drive?
[02:45] <daedra> and find /etc/X11/
[02:45] <zero-9376> reiserfs
[02:45] <rolfen> pawan: ok... then do it :)
[02:45] <pawan> what
[02:45] <rolfen> type ./configure
[02:45] <dr_willis> No idea on reiserfs. i always use ext3. could be its mounted oddly. but sudo chown user.user Directoryname   - normally works for me.
[02:46] <shezif> i need someone that manager the loco team
[02:46] <rolfen> pawan: after typing configure, type make and then type make install
[02:46] <pawan> i am getting > sign at terminal
[02:46] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: then open xorg.conf (there will be lots of them, only open the one with this exact filename) with gedit
[02:46] <rolfen> pawan: did you type ./configure?
[02:46] <dr_willis> no ? :)
[02:46] <Enselic> I have a hardware detection problem so I'd like to compile the very latest kernel source. Would that cause any incompatbility problems with the existing software, or are they supposed to be backwards compatible?
[02:46] <rolfen> pawan: and nothing happened?
[02:46] <dr_willis> !kernel
[02:46] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:47] <dr_willis> Enselic,  shouldent cause any probvlems with the software.. but gettting it going may be a bit of a hassle.
[02:47] <hsimah> hello. i just installed vista on my laptop and want to dual boot with ubuntu (which is already installed). how do i get grub back working?
[02:47] <pawan> no such file or directory
[02:47] <IdleOne> !grub
[02:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:47] <paroxysm> can someone explain to me why gnome-panel consistently hits 100+ MB of memory usage?
[02:47] <Enselic> dr_willis: the problem is that that page does not describe how to compile vanilla kernels, I'm afraid the linux-source source is not new enough :/
[02:47] <rolfen> ok
[02:47] <rolfen> pawa
[02:47] <rolfen> pawan type pwd
[02:47] <hsimah> thanks
[02:48] <pawan> typed
[02:48] <dr_willis> Enselic,  bummer..
[02:48] <IdleOne> hsimah, np
[02:48] <zero-9376> dr_willis: yep even as root i get permission denied
[02:48] <rolfen> pawan: gives?
[02:48] <dr_willis> zero-9376,  interesting check 'mount' see how its mounted. if its read only, or not.
[02:48] <Absenth> what do I ask Ubotu to get flash on amd64 help?  :)
[02:48] <rolfen> pawan: what's the result of pwd
[02:48] <nostotu> morning all
[02:48] <IdleOne> !flash | Absenth
[02:48] <ubotu> Absenth: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:48] <rolfen> morning
[02:49] <pawan> pawan1234@ubuntu:~/eq-xmms-0.7$
[02:49] <nostotu> i have a big stupid grin on my face for finally converting to ubuntu
[02:49] <zero-9376> dr_willis: mount says rw,nosuid,nodev...not sure if ive seen nosuid before
[02:49] <IdleOne> welcome nostotu
[02:50] <rolfen> ok pawan can you type this please: ls
[02:50] <dreamer> ok, can someone fitally help me? I've been getting this for same time now: sometimes during boot, apperantly another dhcpclient pops up .. trying to renew my ip-adress, F-ing with my netwerk. Here's some more info: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30776/
[02:50] <rolfen> that will list the contents of the directory
[02:50] <rolfen> see if you can find configure
[02:50] <dreamer> it's dhclient3 that's making the trouble
[02:50] <pawan> there is configure in green
[02:50] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: paste THIS: http://pastbin.ubuntu-nl.org/30775 in place of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:50] <nostotu> so for a new convert, does anyone have a recommendation for fun things to do? i was also curious if it is possible to do a vm of macosx
[02:50] <dr_willis> zero-9376,  nosuid disabvles the 'suid bit' stuff. shouldent be an issue.
[02:50] <Enselic> paroxysm: are you using many applets on it?
[02:51] <paroxysm> Enselic: i have shortcuts to programs there, and the character palette, that's it
[02:51] <dr_willis> zero-9376,  could unmount it, and remountit..  i dont know if this is a reiserfs issue, or not. why are you even using reiserfs?
[02:51] <pawan> but when i tyupe /configure it says no such file/directory
[02:51] <Enselic> paroxysm: how did you measure it's memory usage?
[02:51] <rolfen> no... type ./configure
[02:51] <shezif> i need someone that manager the loco team
[02:51] <IdleOne> pawan, you must type ./configure with the .
[02:51] <shezif> everybody here?
[02:51] <rolfen> pawan : with the dot before the /
[02:51] <paroxysm> Enselic: system monitor. it doesn't stay at that level, but it'll eventually get there, over time
[02:51] <shezif> i need someone that manager the loco teams
[02:52] <zak> other than gentoo and freebsd, can anyone recommend a good desktop unixy OS/linux distro for haters of apt?
[02:52] <Anlar> zak: foresight
[02:52] <Enselic> zak: why would anyone hate apt?
[02:52] <IdleOne> zak, try mandriva
[02:52] <pawan> pawan1234@ubuntu:~/eq-xmms-0.7$ ./configure
[02:52] <pawan> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[02:52] <pawan> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[02:52] <pawan> checking for gawk... no
[02:52] <pawan> checking for mawk... mawk
[02:52] <pawan> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[02:52] <paroxysm> Enselic: and the only way of getting rid of it is to restart gnome-panel afaik
[02:52] <pawan> checking for gcc... gcc
[02:52] <pawan> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:52] <pawan> See `config.log' for more details.
[02:52] <daedra> nostotu: I, atleast, find this fun: running mplayer -vo aa [VIDEOFILE] 
[02:52] <dr_willis> wrong channel to ask about haters of apt. :)
[02:52] <Enselic> paroxysm: hat version are you on? mine uses 6.4 MB
[02:52] <IdleOne> pawan,
[02:52] <liquiddoom> !paste | pawan
[02:52] <ubotu> pawan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:52] <IdleOne> dont paste in here
[02:52] <paroxysm> Enselic: of ubuntu? 7.10
[02:53] <pawan> ok
[02:53] <dr_willis> lets see, no apt, no portage, that just leaves.. hmm.. slackwares stuff and rpm? and perhaps a few other minor disrtos.
[02:53] <paroxysm> Enselic: sorry, 7.04
[02:53] <Enselic> paroxysm: me too     have you're system been running for long?
[02:53] <IdleOne> pawan, that is good when that is done it will tell you to type make and then make install probably. follow instructions on screen
[02:53] <paroxysm> Enselic: but i had the same problem with edgy too
[02:53] <daedra> zak: SLACKWARE
[02:53] <paroxysm> Enselic: it'll usually do it after a few hours of being up
[02:53] <rolfen> pawan type tail -4 ./config.log
[02:53] <zak> Enselic: because it keeps corrupting it's database or something and dying on me, and i'm sure installation could be faster than apt makes it
[02:53] <zero-9376> dr_willis: i have close to 1.5TB of drives on my main pc,which i pulled this drive from, i had issues with ext3 particularly with checking after bad shutdown
[02:53] <rolfen> pawan and pastebin if you want...
[02:54] <rolfen> give me the result...
[02:54] <Enselic> zak: has never happend to me, are you sure you hae not manually abused it? if you do everything "right", I doubt you will get any database corruptions
[02:54] <IdleOne> rolfen, looks like he needs build-essential :/
[02:54] <Absenth> zak: freebsd/PC-BSD
[02:54] <pawan> pawan1234@ubuntu:~/eq-xmms-0.7$ tail -4 ./config.log
[02:54] <pawan> #define PACKAGE_VERSION ""
[02:54] <pawan> #define VERSION "0.7"
[02:54] <pawan> configure: exit 77
[02:54] <rolfen> IdleOne: what's that?
[02:54] <daedra> omg PASTEBIN
[02:54] <dr_willis> zero-9376,  ive had opposite findings.. :)  i found ext3 more reliable for me then reiserfs after power-outages..
[02:55] <IdleOne> pawan, do this sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:55] <rolfen> IdleOne: okay.. thanks :)
[02:55] <zak> Enselic: well either it did it by itself, or i need a package manager i can understand better anyway :)
[02:55] <IdleOne> rolfen, after the build-essential package is installed ./configure....
[02:56] <zero-9376> dr_willis: yeah sometimes I question the decision but then my laptop which runs with ext3 for windows compatability takes 5 mins to start due to fsck
[02:56] <Enselic> zak: how does the corruption you speak of show itself?
[02:56] <Absenth> where's the ubuntu pastbin?
[02:56] <zero-9376> dr_willis: and i cant change anyway...dont have the cash for more drives
[02:56] <daedra> !past
[02:56] <Enselic> zak: I've tried a few package systems, and apt is imo by *far* the best and most stable one     it have only crashed when I have done nasty things to it
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <daedra> !paste
[02:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:57] <rolfen> !pasta
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <Absenth> thanks daedra
[02:57] <daedra> mmm pasta
[02:57] <AlinuxOS> hello, desktop effects work on my Ubuntu 7.04 I have no borders :)
[02:57] <IdleOne> !botabuse
[02:57] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:57] <zero-9376> dr_willis: thanks for the help...think ill just add a temporary entry in fstab
[02:57] <zak> Enselic: i can't really remember the details, but different problems have occured each time
[02:58] <daedra> anyone have any CLI must haves?
[02:58] <pawan> it is installing
[02:58] <Enselic> zak: it would help with an example problem
[02:58] <rolfen> pawan: good
[02:58] <Enselic> zak: the problem might have nothing to do with apt itself, but rather how use use it/wants to use it
[02:58] <zak> Enselic: it doesn't matter.. i also want to avoid debian based distros because i've already encountered a lot of them
[02:58] <daedra> my top programs for CLI are these so far: screen, nano, mpd, ncmpc, irssi, links
[02:59] <zak> wget!
[02:59] <zak> don't forget wget!
[02:59] <AlinuxOS> I use Compiz default configuration.
[02:59] <daedra> ah yesh
[02:59] <daedra> not used that much, but hey
[02:59] <daedra> also: rtorrent :)
[02:59] <Absenth> for CLI I use, irssi and vi
[02:59] <Absenth> that's it.  :)
[02:59] <zak> mine would be find, wget, cat and vi
[02:59] <Absenth> well and tar, apt-get etc.
[02:59] <Uriku> hey
[02:59] <IdleOne> bee
[03:00] <nostotu> hi uriku
[03:00] <Uriku> I'm having troubles with the Grub loader =/
[03:00] <dr_willis> daedra,  dont forget 'mc'
[03:00] <dr_willis> daedra,  'twin' is nifty also.
[03:00] <Uriku> I'm trying to set Windows as default, but it doesn't quite do it =/
[03:00] <daedra> I'm talking about programs not _usually_ in linux
[03:00] <nostotu> does it = impossible to run mac os x in a virtual environment?
[03:00] <daedra> dr_willis: twin is HORRIBLE
[03:00] <daedra> kill it in the face
[03:00] <dr_willis> daedra,  depends on your needs. I find it handy in some cases
[03:00] <Absenth> daedra: in that case, the only cli apps I add regularly are irssi and mtr
[03:00] <dr_willis> too bad many disrtos sort of cripple it with the fonts.
[03:00] <Uriku> I tried putting it at the first place, but then with each update to the kernal it overwrites on it
[03:01] <daedra> !mtr
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <daedra> !info mtr
[03:01] <ubotu> mtr: Full screen ncurses and X11 traceroute tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.71-2 (feisty), package size 46 kB, installed size 160 kB
[03:01] <Absenth> daedra: some machines get nmap, and a few other network tools, but that's a function of my job.
[03:01] <daedra> hmm sounds nifty
[03:01] <Shoopuf> Wow, moving items around in the alacarte main menu is extremely buggy.
[03:01] <pawan> done
[03:01] <Absenth> daedra: think traceroute,  expect it continues to ping every machine until canceled
[03:01] <pawan> after that
[03:01] <IdleOne> pawan, what is done?
[03:01] <Absenth> daedra: useful for troubleshooting links that sometimes go down, but not always.
[03:02] <Uriku> can anyone help with the grub loader? :(
[03:02] <pawan> installation complete
[03:02] <Absenth> Uriku: explain your problem.
[03:02] <IdleOne> pawan, installation of build-essential?
[03:02] <daedra> Absenth: I guess you could run it and then start fiddling with the other end of the wire
[03:02] <pawan> the xmms equilizer
[03:02] <IdleOne> oh
[03:02] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: thought of smthing?
[03:02] <zak> maybe i will try mandriva.. it's a bit of a noob distro, but meh :)
[03:02] <rolfen> good, now try ./configure again
[03:02] <IdleOne> dont know never used it
[03:02] <Absenth> daedra: I've used it to help prove to customers that it's not my mail server that's failing but rather their border router.
[03:03] <rolfen> pawan:  and paste the results in the pastebing
[03:03] <rolfen> *pastebin
[03:03] <Uriku> the problem is a double one: for one thing, it doesn't allow me to set Windows as default, it keeps going to the first entry. and the other problem is that with each update to the kernal it writes over the grub file, at least the first entry
[03:04] <Absenth> Uriku: there's a place to edit which entry is default.....  for windows likely it'll be 5 or 6 depending on how many kernels you have listed.
[03:04] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: well did you try livebooting?
[03:04] <Uriku> now there's a "default" command there, and it's supposed to go to the first entry with 'savedefault', but it doesn't :(
[03:04] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: and what configurations do i make to xorg.conf? i got in using livebooting
[03:04] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: and editing /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[03:04] <pawan> where is pastebin
[03:04] <Uriku> that is if I write 'saved' instead of the number
[03:04] <liquiddoom> !paste | pawan
[03:04] <ubotu> pawan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:04] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: w8
[03:05] <pawan> !paste
[03:05] <Absenth> Uriku: change.....         default 0       to be default   (whatever number is windows)
[03:05] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: ok, save xorg.conf to xorg-old.conf
[03:05] <Absenth> Uriku: use sudo to edit the menu.lst
[03:05] <daedra> ok .....
[03:05] <Uriku> but it keeps adding more entries
[03:05] <Uriku> I am using root to edit this, yes
[03:05] <Absenth> Uriku: kernel updates don't happen very often.
[03:05] <Uriku> it happens once in a while, that's enough
[03:05] <Uriku> to erritate anyways
[03:05] <Absenth> Uriku: you might have to edit it again, or remove the older kernel entries when they are updated.
[03:06] <pawan> i pasted it
[03:06] <Uriku> that's annoying :S
[03:06] <rolfen> pawan: now you need to give us the link!
[03:06] <Orfeous> are there any kernel update available without any manually building and compilation?
[03:06] <Siph0n> hey is top the only command to see whats using my memory? cause it says i am using 180meg out of 240meg when i only have a terminal and gaim open...
[03:06] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30778/
[03:06] <Orfeous> Siph0n: top
[03:06] <wers> what ubuntu package  is in charge of the color of notification pop-ups like the ones that come out of rhythmbox and libnotify?
[03:06] <stefg> Siph0n: free -m
[03:06] <Uriku> besides it says it should go to the first entry saved with '
[03:06] <Uriku> 'savedefault'
[03:06] <Uriku> it doesn't =/
[03:06] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: so i save xorg.conf to xorg-old.conf. what next?
[03:07] <Orfeous> Siph0n: cache is used also
[03:07] <Siph0n> stefg: that tells me how much i have used and free.. but not the programs that are using it
[03:07] <Siph0n> and top only shows like 5 processes using memory
[03:07] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: ok, now open xorg.conf and delete everything, and replace it with the contents of this paste-bin: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/30775
[03:07] <stefg> Siph0n: if want something more comfortableibstall htop
[03:07] <Enselic> If my cd is not at /dev/hda, where could it be?
[03:07] <Absenth> !flash
[03:07] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:08] <stefg> !info htop
[03:08] <ubotu> htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3-1 (feisty), package size 43 kB, installed size 172 kB
[03:08] <daedra> its a conf especially for ATi x1600
[03:08] <pawan> now
[03:08] <pawan> i cant see the equilizer in xmms
[03:08] <Siph0n> ok thanx stefg
[03:08] <rolfen> ok thanks pawan... do you have xmms installed?
[03:08] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: and then? restart?
[03:08] <stefg> Enselic: /dec/scd0
[03:08] <stefg> Enselic: /dev/scd0
[03:08] <pawan> yes
[03:09] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: SAVE
[03:09] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: and then restart
[03:09] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ok
[03:09] <mind-shift> (: A)>                        <------------ A MAN WITH A GOAT BEARD!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
[03:09] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ill try it
[03:10] <dr_willis> goatee
[03:10] <daedra> woah htop rules
[03:10] <daedra> never tried this
[03:10] <nostotu> is vmware busted currently?
[03:10] <dr_willis> daedra,  yea htop is a must have.
[03:10] <Enselic> stefg: pci=assign-busses didn't help though :(    it removed the warning about shadowned pci, but not this one: ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0x000118ff
[03:10] <dr_willis> nostotu,  its working for me. well vmware-server is...
[03:10] <mind-shift> (:-A)>
[03:10] <pawan> how to start the equilizer
[03:11] <mind-shift> hehe, it looks authentic
[03:11] <Uriku> mmm
[03:11] <mind-shift> (:-A)>
[03:11] <daedra> dr_willis: how about tmsnc
[03:11] <Uriku> gonna try something
[03:11] <daedra> CLI msn
[03:11] <dr_willis> !info tmsnc
[03:11] <ubotu> tmsnc: textbased (console) MSN client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.2-1 (feisty), package size 48 kB, installed size 148 kB
[03:11] <rolfen> pawan can you install xmms-dev please
[03:11] <nostotu> dr willis do u use automatix to get it?
[03:11] <dr_willis> daedra,   i never use any Im stuff, other then irc.
[03:11] <rolfen> pawan do you know how to use synaptic?
[03:11] <pawan> how
[03:11] <dr_willis> nostotu,  HECK NO. :)
[03:11] <dr_willis> nostotu,  hehheh...
[03:11] <daedra> ah
[03:11] <liquiddoom> !info bacula
[03:11] <ubotu> bacula: Network backup, recovery and verification (Meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.38.11-7ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 49 kB, installed size 84 kB
[03:11] <dr_willis> nostotu,  'friends  dont let froends use Automatix'
[03:12] <stefg> Enselic: so the kernel and your motherboard don't love each other anymore. So if it's not fixable with boot parameters you need to build your own adapted kernel
[03:12] <rolfen> pawan open synaptic in system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[03:12] <nostotu> well i'm nubuntunub
[03:12] <Enselic> stefg: yeah, I still have some things I can try though, so I'm not completely stuck, but I'm progressing slow
[03:12] <IdleOne> pawan, sudo apt-get install xmms-dev
[03:12] <nostotu> Please to teach me
[03:12] <Enselic> stefg: at least not I'm completely out of ideas
[03:12] <pawan> i used this command
[03:12] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> can i use msn messenger on linux?
[03:12] <rolfen> IdleOne: okay but i wanted to teach him the gui way so he can do it himself in the future :)
[03:13] <stefg> Enselic: tried the usual 'noacpi noapic nolapic'  for a test boot?
[03:13] <pawan> sudo apt-get install xmms-dev
[03:13] <Absenth> kathe_ti_pou_ana: using kopete (kde) or pidgin (gnome/others)
[03:13] <rolfen> pawan: no you did not you installed something else before, now you're installing xmms-dev
[03:13] <Eldara> anyone got a link for some basic terminal commands
[03:13] <Shoopuf> Is it common that the Main Menu is incredibly buggy and sometimes won't update?
[03:13] <IdleOne> rolfen, the cli way is easier if you ask me :) and besides he is already in the cli learning to compile so ...
[03:13] <cyberphaz> kathe, there are a few programs which can use the messager fine, gaim and amsn, too
[03:13] <Enselic> stefg: nope, will, thanks for the tip
[03:13] <nostotu> willis?
[03:14] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: yup: use gaim
[03:14] <Absenth> cyberphaz: gaim has been depreciated, and replaced by pidgin (just an fyi)  same application, new name.
[03:14] <stefg> Enselic: but that's no cure, just diagnosis
[03:14] <dr_willis> nostotu,  Huh?
[03:14] <daedra> !amsn
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <pawan> yes
[03:14] <NoNick1> Hello. I need help installing an rt61 based wireless adapter. Anyone?
[03:14] <daedra> !info amsn
[03:14] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB
[03:14] <pawan> i only installed xmms
[03:14] <Otacon22> hi guys, i have found in my house a PDA of 3/4 years ago, a hp ipaq, i can install ubuntu linux on it?
[03:14] <shezif> i need someone that manager the loco teams
[03:14] <pawan> and not xmms-dev
[03:14] <stefg> !wifi
[03:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:14] <pawan> are these two different things
[03:14] <rolfen> pawan:  what do you mean?
[03:15] <nostotu> could u point me in the right direction where to go? for a vmware that will let me run osx?
[03:15] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: does your installation work?
[03:15] <cyberphaz> hmm that must be pretty new then, since gaim is still in the list
[03:15] <cyberphaz> and not pidgin
[03:15] <pawan> xmms and xmms-dev
[03:15] <bluefox83> how do i get compiz to always launch emerald on startup instead of gtk-window-decorator (is it possible to remove gtk-window-decorator without removing compiz?)
[03:15] <pawan> whats the difference between the two
[03:15] <rolfen> pawan: yes xmms and xmms-dev are different things
[03:15] <dr_willis> nostotu,  i use the vmware-server, and 'found' a os-x  vmware image for it on the net. :)  it worked..   and i think thats abouit all i can legally say on it. Heh heh.
[03:15] <daedra> NoNick1: hey
[03:16] <IdleOne> pawan, -dev includes the development files wich are sometimes needed when adding plugins like the eq
[03:16] <rolfen> pawan:  you need to probably need to install xmms-dev for compiling the xmms-eq plugin, be patient :)
[03:16] <nostotu> but u use vmware server not viewer?
[03:16] <pawan> ok
[03:16] <rolfen> pawan: did you install xmms-dev ?
[03:16] <daedra> NoNick1: I've got a ra0 card - RaLink rt61
[03:16] <pawan> it is installing
[03:16] <Eldara> join irc.undergroundsystems.org
[03:16] <Eldara> connect irc.undergroundsystems.org
[03:16] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: it says i dont have permission to save the fil
[03:16] <daedra> NoNick1: check if you have the same
[03:16] <bluefox83> wtf we have a spammer O.o
[03:16] <IdleOne> blueCommand, happens
[03:17] <IdleOne> bluefox83, ^^
[03:17] <blueCommand> :)
[03:17] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: ok, go into terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:17] <bluefox83> i haven't seen a spammer in years :O
[03:17] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: THEN paste http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/30775 in
[03:19] <IdleOne> !staff
[03:19] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[03:19] <kloeri> what's up IdleOne?
[03:19] <IdleOne> klobster, Eldara (n=mitchell@user-514f3cb0.l2.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk) is spamming other network
[03:19] <IdleOne> kloeri, ^^
[03:20] <IdleOne> stupid tab completion lol
[03:20] <nbjayme> how do you let mkfontdir to rebuild all font cache?
[03:21] <NoNick1> daedra: Mine is a Linksys WMP54G.
[03:21] <NoNick1> daedra: Version 4.1.
[03:21] <daedra> NoNick1: ok I can't help sorry
[03:21] <pawan> installed the xmms-dev version
[03:21] <pawan> now
[03:21] <NoNick1> daedra: Thanks anyway :-)
[03:22] <echosystm> i cant seem to boot from my dvd drive
[03:23] <echosystm> its connected to a sata controller in ahci mode
[03:23] <echosystm> can that be done? :/
[03:23] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: hello?
[03:24] <rolfen> pawan: not try ./configure (again!)
[03:24] <pawan> tried
[03:24] <stefg> !boot
[03:24] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:24] <rolfen> pawan: and? can you pastebin the results again? what was the last line?
[03:25] <sciboy> Hi, I am using an AMD Athlon64 3000+ and I was wondering if there was a way I could underclock this to 1.6ghz temporarily, I'm looking at a laptop and I need to test whether that cpu power is sufficient for graphics work.
[03:25] <nostotu> dr_willis, are you there?
[03:25] <dr_willis> nostotu,  in and out...
[03:25] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30780/
[03:25] <nostotu> understood, since i'm nub i need help installing this thing to ubuntu
[03:26] <nostotu> but i appear to be not good at this yet
[03:26] <dr_willis> sciboy,  my laptop is 1.6 ghz and does my gimping needs ok. :) i dont do big things however.
[03:26] <rolfen> ok pawan it seems to have succeeded
[03:26] <rolfen> now type make
[03:26] <rolfen> and close xmms by the way
[03:26] <dr_willis> sciboy,  theres some cpu-throttling applets/panel apps ive used on my laptop. but not sure if they will work on a desktop machine.
[03:27] <pawan> typed make
[03:27] <pawan> again at command prompt
[03:27] <sayers> sciboy, well 1.6 is what I had and I could run beryl and such fine
[03:28] <sciboy> dr_willis, That's kinda why I asked. I had to throttle my old toshiba because the fan got clogged with dust.
[03:28] <rolfen> ok pawan now close xmms and type make install
[03:28] <sciboy> sayers, The demands of a 3D application are much different to that of a 2D. 2D relies more on cpu power where as 3d mainly relies on the graphics chip.
[03:28] <Absenth> swf-player is perfect :)  Kudos to whoever started that project :)
[03:28] <rolfen> pawan what were the last lines of make by the way... any error mesasge?
[03:29] <sciboy> sayers, So Beryl has little relevance. =)
[03:29] <sayers> sciboy, true
[03:29] <sayers> sciboy, well it ran fine
[03:29] <OldPink> IM me if you're up for reading a Ubuntu blog article and leaving a comment, in return for me doing the same for you on your blog. Just looking to get the ball rolling on a new post, please?
[03:29] <IceLink> can anybody tell me where i can find the lame-library and where to put it?
[03:29] <dr_willis> sciboy,  I found a Pomerianian in my desktop machine last week. :) it was FILTHY
[03:29] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30781/
[03:30] <nostotu> willis is there an efficient guide to what you were referring to earlier
[03:30] <sciboy> dr_willis, How the heck...
[03:30] <sciboy> I don't want to know
[03:30] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: nothing happens.. it says i dont have permission
[03:30] <dr_willis> sciboy,  well it was a dust/hair ball the size of my dog.. :) and it was his hair.
[03:30] <dr_willis> nostotu,  I just download/install the vmware-server package from the vmware site.
[03:31] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: thats when trying sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:31] <dr_willis> nostotu,  then thers the !vmware bot linfo
[03:31] <nostotu> right any help on doing htat? ehhe
[03:31] <dr_willis> !vmware
[03:31] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[03:31] <rolfen> pawan:  uh ok sorry my bad
[03:31] <rolfen> pawan type : sudo make
[03:31] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: yes
[03:31] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: hmm
[03:31] <nostotu> thanks wills
[03:31] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: brb
[03:31] <rolfen> pawan: actually nooo
[03:31] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: ok
[03:31] <rolfen> type sudo make install
[03:31] <rolfen> sorry
[03:32] <rolfen> but it's okay if you have already typed sudo make
[03:32] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30782/
[03:33] <rolfen> pawan: ok it should work now, try launching xmms and see if you have an eq
[03:34] <pawan> ya got it
[03:34] <pawan> thanks
[03:34] <rolfen> you're welcome :)
[03:34] <pawan> good one
[03:34] <Otacon22> i have found in my house a PDA of 3/4 years ago, a hp ipaq, can i install ubuntu linux on it?
[03:34] <rolfen> pawan: now you know how to compile a program: ./configure then make then sudo make install
[03:34] <orange__> I try drag files to a harddrive
[03:34] <dr_willis> Otacon22,  try google? since i doubt if its doable..  :) good luck. put a xterm onit!
[03:34] <pawan> yes
[03:35] <orange__> but it doesn't alow me
[03:35] <pawan> thats the way to complie tar.gz file
[03:35] <artabrahao> hi, How Can I change date time in the server?
[03:35] <Anlar> Otacon22: yeah there are couple linux distributions for ipaqs.. they sort of work but they are not as usable/finished as the default windows on those
[03:35] <pawan> thanks
[03:35] <Otacon22> :/
[03:36] <Anlar> Otacon22: gpe and opie being the desktop environments for the thingy
[03:36] <sciboy> dr_willis, I'm looking at a Toshiba M200, (older model tablet pc)
[03:36] <Otacon22> Anlar, and http://www.ipaqlinux.com/?
[03:36] <orange__> When i try copy files to a hard drive it say error and you do not have permissions to write to this folder
[03:36] <Anlar> Otacon22: and power saving might have problems, they use more power when you got the linux on it
[03:36] <dr_willis> sciboy,  tablet pc. was supposed to be the next-big-thing. :) Im still amazed at those hinges on those things
[03:36] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra>>>???
[03:37] <sciboy> dr_willis, *SNAP*
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> orange__: what format is the drive/partition you are trying to write to..
[03:37] <sciboy> dr_willis, =P It just seems there's not many with what I need cpu wise that aren't way out of my price range.
[03:38] <dr_willis> sciboy,  i got a $350 laptop for the wife the other day. :) go ahead let her break it!
[03:38] <askand> Can someone please check what is the default fon for amsn?
[03:38] <orange__> Jack_Sparrow> ntfs >
[03:38] <askand> font*
[03:39] <echosystm> amsn uses helvetica
[03:39] <orange__> Jack_Sparrow> its storage harddrive
[03:39] <maxpower> just last night my computer slowed way down. I noticed that klogd, syslogd and dd are taking up the entire cpu. tail -f /var/log/kern.log shows that it is getting stuffed with lots of stuff, like "bbbbbb" and "errbus" and "ebus" and so on.... Anyone know what this means?
[03:39] <echosystm> and it looks absolutely horrible
[03:39] <echosystm> :)
[03:39] <echosystm> use gaim
[03:39] <GibaJack> g' day guys
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis: I picked up a laptop for the wife this week for $40.. A little sweat equity and she has a decent HP to work with.
[03:39] <WM-666> compile amsn with tcl/tk 8.5 for anti-aliased fonts
[03:39] <orange__> Jack_Sparrow> ntfs >
[03:40] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  life is good. :)
[03:40] <GibaJack> i'm looking for something od similar to matlab
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> orange__: Have you enabled writing to ntfs as in ntfs-3g
[03:40] <GibaJack> something to do processing (dsp)
[03:40] <orange__> Jack_Sparrow> how i enable ?
[03:41] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: still thinking
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g
[03:41] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:41] <askand> Can someone please check what is the default font in amsn?
[03:41] <mind-shift> what should I do if I want to become root in the desktop?
[03:41] <mind-shift> the graphical thing
[03:41] <mind-shift> not using the console
[03:41] <echosystm> askand, i already said itis helvetica
[03:41] <Orfeous> how do i update to gutsy alpha?
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> mind-shift: what are you tying to accomplish
[03:42] <WM-666> !update
[03:42] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:42] <stefg> mind-shift: what reason do you have for such a potential dangerous action?
[03:42] <dutch> how do you know which video set up that you're using (xorg or xfree) ?
[03:42] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: ok I have an idea
[03:42] <Orfeous> WM-666: been there done that :D
[03:42] <WM-666> well then? :p
[03:42] <Orfeous> but nothing says about gutsy
[03:42] <dutch> I need to change the resolution on this box
[03:43] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: the partition you installed linux on should be in /media/hda1 or whatever
[03:43] <echosystm> whats the best gui app for extracting zip and .rar files?
[03:43] <askand> echosystm: thanks!
[03:43] <mind-shift> Jack_Sparrow, Stefg: I'm trying to delete a directory in my home folder that is owned by root
[03:43] <mind-shift> I made it when I was root
[03:43] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: you need to sudo umount /media/hda1
[03:43] <GibaJack> anyone could help me?
[03:43] <mind-shift> How can I delete it without the console
[03:43] <echosystm> anyone?
[03:43] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: then sudo mount -o rw /media/hda1
[03:43] <askand> echosystm: hrm..its not in my fontlist :S
[03:43] <stefg> mind-shift: sudo rm -f /home/foo/bar
[03:44] <WM-666> Orfeous: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501893
[03:44] <mind-shift> stefg: But I can't do it in nautulus?
[03:45] <sciboy> dr_willis, The main thing throwing me off some of them are those intel graphics chips. I still don't know the situation under linux 3d acceleration wise.
[03:45] <stefg> mind-shift: you can run a root-natilus. alt-f2 , gksudo nautilus ...
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> mind-shift: gksudo nautilus  but use with caution and only as necessary
[03:45] <GibaJack> anyone can tell me if does exist a software for digital signal processing?
[03:45] <artabrahao> hi, How Can I change date time in the server?
[03:45] <fiveiron> is there an option for centralized user/group management other than LDAP?
[03:45] <liquiddoom> artabrahao: date
[03:46] <liquiddoom> artabrahao: You can use ntp to automatically set the system time
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[03:46] <Stinker> lo all,  quick question, whats the shortcut to edit in the console text editor?
[03:46] <stefg> mind-shift: as a general rule: Only acquire root-privs as needed, for one task at a time. Never run more than necessary as root
[03:46] <pawan>  i wann install beizer visulaization plugin in xmms
[03:47] <echosystm> guys, how do i unzip a zip file??
[03:47] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: you there?
[03:47] <echosystm> what progrmas are there for linux
[03:47] <WM-666> echosystm: right click and "extract" ?
[03:47] <stefg> !software
[03:47] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[03:48] <pawan> opengl not supported please install first
[03:48] <liquiddoom> artabrahao: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[03:48] <echosystm> i have an alt install of ubuntu
[03:48] <echosystm> there is no extract option
[03:48] <Stinker> liquiddoom, do u know?
[03:48] <liquiddoom> Stinker: Know what?
[03:48] <orange__> Jack_Sparrow> the ntfs-config i was able enable write support for external device
[03:48] <mind-shift> ok
[03:48] <Stinker> whats the shortcut to edit in the console text editor?
[03:49] <orange__> Jack_Sparrow> but not internal
[03:49] <pawan> how to install opengl
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[03:49] <liquiddoom> Stinker: You mean, to use a CLI text editor like vi or nano? I'm not sure
[03:49] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra
[03:49] <Stinker> ye, like that :/
[03:49] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: found anything?
[03:49] <Xecuter88> is there a program to monitor sound? input and output? i'm using two soundcards but i can't figure out if the studiocard is working. i've just got the drivers working, i think...
[03:49] <Otacon22> Anlar, do you know how to mount the ipaq on ubuntu to see files inside?
[03:49] <pawan> cant find opengl pakage
[03:50] <Stinker> !vi
[03:50] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[03:50] <stefg> pawan: that's a feature provided by the video-driver
[03:50] <pawan> i have nvidia graphics card
[03:51] <orange__> Jack_Sparrow> the ntfs-config i was able enable write support for external device..
[03:51] <stefg> pawan: so if you are on feisty use the restricted  manager to enable the 3d accelerated, opnegl capable driver
[03:52] <Xecuter88> anybody know of an ardour-chat?
[03:52] <pawan> how to enable it
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> orange__: I saw our note.. please dont repeat quite that quickly as I am a little busy..  Is there a lock on that drive (windows) that might need to be cleared.
[03:52] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: the partition you installed linux on should be in /media/hda1 or whatever
[03:52] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> yes
[03:52] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: you need to sudo umount /media/hda1
[03:52] <Jonathan_> hello all
[03:52] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: then sudo mount -o rw /media/hda1
[03:52] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> sudo unmount or umount?
[03:52] <pawan> my graphics card is enabled
[03:53] <liquiddoom> !info dnsmasq
[03:53] <ubotu> dnsmasq: A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.37-1 (feisty), package size 186 kB, installed size 592 kB
[03:53] <WM-666> umount
[03:53] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> o
[03:53] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ok
[03:53] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: then try sudo gedit /media/hda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:53] <Toma-> how can i get the TTY1 terminal login to spawn latter in the boot process?
[03:53] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ok
[03:53] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ill try this
[03:53] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: and paste in http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/30775
[03:54] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: sorry about taking so long
[03:54] <pawan> how to enable opengl
[03:54] <stefg> !nvidia | pawan
[03:54] <ubotu> pawan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:55] <stefg> pawan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:55] <sam1337> how do dell partition the hdds?
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> sam1337: no differently than anyone else
[03:56] <fiveiron> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5551137361.html
[03:57] <stefg> fiveiron: use #ubuntu-offtopic for this
[03:57] <ShackJack> Hi all - my Dad got one of those Dell with Ubuntu on it already and wants some help setting it up.   It comes partitio ned kinda "funky" - no /home partition, a separate partition for an disk image and dell utilities. I'd like a more traditional setup - do you think it'd be easier to just reinstall Ubuntu or fiddle with the partitions?
[03:58] <sayers> Can I run I386 on AMD64?
[03:58] <ShackJack> sayers: Yep :)
[03:58] <pawan> i have this card
[03:58] <pawan> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)
[03:59] <stefg> ShackJack: first i'd do a complete backup. If you're in for support/warranty Dell will be happy do deny it because you tinkered
[03:59] <sayers> ShackJack, I built this myself
[03:59] <sayers> stefg, I sell computers :)
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> sam1337: Sounds like he has a standard insatll already.. you can shrink the existing partition and create a home partition if you like..
[04:00] <echosystm> how the hell is nautilus writing files to a flopppy disk
[04:00] <echosystm> but the light doesnt even comeon
[04:00] <echosystm> ?
[04:00] <echosystm> is it doing a deferred write or someting
[04:00] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I make feisty show a specific icon instead of a blank white one for a specific file type, for example jar file type?
[04:00] <stefg> pawan: go and read the links i gve you, everything is explained there
[04:01] <ShackJack> stefg: I don't think they can deny warranty because OS was reinstalled - don't most Windows users do that anyway :)
[04:01] <pawan> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)
[04:01] <Xecuter88> where can i see that my soundcard input is receiving audio? a graph of some sort...
[04:01] <Safrole> Given that GRUB has an error 17 upon booting, is there any way I can still get into ubuntu to resolve this problem?
[04:01] <mrsno__> Safrole you can use the liveCD to mount the partition
[04:01] <GibaJack> can i recompile the kernel or something else using an apt command?
[04:02] <mrsno__> then see about fixing grub
[04:02] <stefg> ShackJack: reinstalling, not flatten the hd and write a new partition table
[04:02] <bluefox83> Safrole, or you can use the livecd to fix grub...i think
[04:02] <Safrole> mrsno_: I did that last night and wasn't sure about the partition sizes
[04:02] <WM-666> Safrole: follow this (with your Live CD) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=install+grub+from+live+cd
[04:02] <mrsno__> GibaJack you can apt-get install the latest linux-image for the kernel, but if you wish to compile for whatever reason then you can apt-get the source and then build it
[04:02] <ShackJack> stefg: Yell, yeah, six of one have dozen of the other... You're no really doing anything *physical* to the HD
[04:03] <TheProphet[S] > Hi all
[04:03] <Safrole> thanks WM-666.. I'll try that now.
[04:03] <stefg> ShackJack: but i think it should be easily manageable to modify the partition layout without reinstalling, or deleting the Dell diagnostic partition
[04:03] <ShackJack> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, I have shrink other partition, but then have to fiddle with fstab, etc... And then they have these partition for disk image (useless) and "utilities" which I'd like to nuke. Just didn't know if it'd be easier to just repartition/reinstall....
[04:03] <Xecuter88> does anyone here have an Echo Mia? working?
[04:04] <pawan> i enabled by graphics card
[04:04] <pawan> now how to install opengl
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ShackJack: I would leave the dell restore until it is out of warrantee.
[04:04] <ShackJack> !enter | pawan
[04:04] <ubotu> pawan: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:04] <pawan> ok
[04:04] <stefg> ShackJack: don't nuke the utility partition.. you mght find yourself locked out
[04:05] <ShackJack> Jack_Sparrow: stefg: O.K. -- I'd ask over at Dell support chat - but they're useless, usually...
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> ShackJack: It is not hurting anything and you will most likely not fill up the drive before the warrantee expires..  FYI those like to run hot, use a coolpad to extend the life of the laptop.
[04:05] <TheProphet[S] > I am getting into learning perl and python, I have a laptop with a small HD and is running WinXP (unfortunately I need it for some programs). Is there a small distro, maybe live, particularly good to learn programming?
[04:05] <stefg> ShackJack: so throw a sudo fdisk -l listing to pastebin to let me have a look
[04:05] <r0n22> anyone here have experence with wireshark?
[04:06] <ShackJack> Jack_Sparrow: desktop - not laptop :)
[04:06] <Frogzoo> !anyone | r0n22:
[04:06] <ubotu> r0n22:: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:06] <Xecuter88> does anyone here have an Echo Mia? working?
[04:06] <ShackJack> stefg: Don't have it online yet...
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ShackJack: Ok.. sorry
[04:06] <mind-shift> does anyone know a good RAR DC hub?
[04:06] <ShackJack> Anyone happen to know of good guide of making separate home partion once Ubuntu is installed... Had it aorund here somewhere...
[04:06] <oush> this is a very random question but i was wandering is there anywhere where i can get some help with vbulletin?
[04:07] <Frogzoo> TheProphet[S] : run ubuntu inside a vmware image maybe
[04:07] <TheProphet[S] > mine didn't start with does anyone
[04:07] <liquiddoom> TheProphet[S] : You can fit ubuntu into around 5gb if you want to
[04:07] <Frogzoo> !anyone | Xecuter88
[04:07] <r0n22> I am not getting any traffic showing up in wireshark other than from my laptop running ubuntu
[04:07] <ubotu> Xecuter88: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:07] <liquiddoom> TheProphet[S] : there are a few livecd/usb distros however
[04:07] <simonaG> hi all
[04:07] <Frogzoo> !anyone | mind-shift
[04:07] <liquiddoom> TheProphet[S] : check out DSL (damn small linux)
[04:07] <TheProphet[S] > liquiddoom: I could run it live as well of course
[04:07] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: hey you there?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Frogzoo: the anyone bot is WAY overused..
[04:07] <Frogzoo> r0n22: are you connected to a switch ?
[04:08] <ubotu> mind-shift: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:08] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: it says -o illegal operation
[04:08] <Frogzoo> Jack_Sparrow: matter of opinion
[04:08] <royel> r0n22: are the other computers connected to the same switch/router as you?
[04:08] <liquiddoom> TheProphet[S] : Running ubuntu live is pretty slow, I'd use a more lightweight distro
[04:08] <r0n22> linksys wireless router
[04:08] <r0n22> i can sniff traffic with my windows box
[04:08] <royel> r0n22: can't sniff wireless
[04:08] <Frogzoo> r0n22: that's what switches do - stop you from seeing traffic to other ports
[04:08] <aka> hi all, anyone here can help me with a start crash of quanta pls ?? this is the error log that quanta tells me http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148111
[04:08] <r0n22> wirede
[04:08] <r0n22> wired*
[04:09] <r0n22> i dont think my linksys router is a switch
[04:09] <TheProphet[S] > liquiddoom: I tried quite a few distros over the years, I have Ubuntu 7.04 on my desktop, I was wondering if maybe slackware was more suitable for a person who wants to learn programming
[04:09] <royel> r0n22: it is a switch
[04:09] <Frogzoo> royel: well you can, just not with wireshark
[04:09] <royel> Frogzoo: exactly
[04:09] <r0n22> ok fair enough
[04:09] <liquiddoom> TheProphet[S] : I have no clue, I haven't tried slack before
[04:09] <Frogzoo> r0n22: well, guess again - linksys has a 4 port switch
[04:09] <pawan> not able to install beizer plugin in xmms
[04:09] <mind-shift> Frogzoo: Lol, how should I put it then? :D    I need a RAR DC hub, GIVE IT TO ME!
[04:09] <pawan> opengl not enabled
[04:09] <aka> hi all, anyone here can help me with a start crash of quanta pls ?? this is the error log that quanta tells me http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148111
[04:09] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: thats actually insane
[04:10] <Frogzoo> mind-shift: yeah, bout right :)
[04:10] <Frogzoo> mind-shift: apt-cache search rar
[04:10] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: ok... try sudo mount -w /media/hda1
[04:10] <Safrole> WM-666: find /boot/grub/stage1 is returning "File 15: File not found"
[04:10] <TheProphet[S] > liquiddoom: I just wish I didn't need windows for certain applications
[04:10] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: ok w8
[04:11] <liquiddoom> TheProphet[S] : You can always virutalize.
[04:11] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30785/
[04:11] <liquiddoom> TheProphet[S] : Slow, but it works well.
[04:11] <WM-666> that's bad Safrole :s      That method always worked for me
[04:11] <Toma-> is there a way to disable the getty term from loading before the rc scripts are all done?
[04:11] <Frogzoo> Safrole: think you need to reinstalling grub - also check /boot/grub/device.map
[04:11] <Safrole> WM-666: Can I private message you?
[04:11] <WM-666> yes
[04:11] <mrsno> pawan what are you compiling and why ??
[04:11] <TheProphet[S] > liquiddoom: the apps are quite slow on windows and the laptop isn't the fastest
[04:11] <mrsno> beizer plugin ?
[04:11] <pawan> a beizer visualization plugin for xmms
[04:12] <TheProphet[S] > liquiddoom: there's ports for Linux but they're not quite the same
[04:12] <TheProphet[S] > there are*
[04:12] <Frogzoo> pawan: audacious > xmms
[04:12] <pawan> what
[04:12] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: now it says cant find /media/hda1
[04:12] <mrsno> pawan audacious is great :-) but for xmms you need some dev files to compile against opengl/xmms
[04:12] <TheProphet[S] > Thanks anyways all!
[04:13] <daedra> kathe_ti_pou_ana: thats because hda1 is just an example, put where your installation lies
[04:13] <pawan> i have the xmms dev version installed
[04:13] <mrsno> pawan but you are using the nvidia drivers
[04:13] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra: and how do i find out which is?
[04:13] <pawan> yes
[04:13] <mrsno> pawan what does dpkg -l |grep -i nvidia say ?
[04:13] <pawan> then
[04:13] <royel> kathe_ti_pou_ana: what are you trying to do?
[04:14] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> royel: im trying to config xorg.conf using livebooting
[04:14] <pawan> ii  nvidia-glx                                 1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.29                NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[04:14] <pawan> ii  nvidia-kernel-common                       20051028+1ubuntu7                      NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
[04:14] <pawan> pawan1234@ubuntu:~$
[04:14] <mrsno> pawan so install nvidia-glx-dev from synaptic, or in the terminal type sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-dev
[04:15] <mrsno> then try your plugin compile once more
[04:15] <mrsno> gl.h is stored in the -dev package
[04:15] <limetang> I can't get my joystick working on Ubuntu 7.04. $ cat /proc/asound/card0/audiopci outputs "... Joystick enable  : on ..." and I've loaded analog and joydev, but jscalibrator says that it cannot access /dev/input/js0 (it does exist). I've tried two different joysticks and neither worked, any ideas?
[04:16] <askand> whats the default font in amsn?
[04:16] <WM-666> askand: helvetica
[04:16] <facecoos> Im trying to set up proftpd and so far I got it working to download, but I cant upload anything. And the proftpd.conf is correct... so it must be a permission thing. But I cant figure it out
[04:16] <Toma-> is there a way to disable the getty term from loading before the rc scripts are all done?
[04:16] <pawan> done
[04:16] <pawan> now
[04:17] <killermach> I need help recovering  my fiesty partitions, here goes the story, I a drive with my Fiesty worktation on it only, all is good for months, then last night I added a second drive to install winxp, the bootcd kept showing the 1st drive as "C", so I created partitions on drive2 NTFS, but could not figure out how to make the new partition on drive2 to be drive C:
[04:17] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> if i use another distribution will i have the same problem?
[04:17] <killermach> I then abandoned the install, power off the machine, unplug drive1 and only plugin drive2 and install
[04:18] <royel> kathe_ti_pou_ana: what is the problem?
[04:18] <bluefox83> killermach, and when you put the linux drive back in, it wouldn't detect grub or ubuntu, right?
[04:18] <kitche> killermach: of course not drive2 will always be named D: or another letter
[04:18] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> when it boots it says loading grub and the it hangs.. black screen
[04:18] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30786/
[04:18] <killermach> today, I plug in drive1 and Fiesty doesn't boot, I boot ubuntu livecd and it shows only one partition on drive1 a Fat16 <32M Type 4
[04:19] <blorro> hello all
[04:19] <mrsno> pawan you need to use sudo make install
[04:19] <killermach> and I never did any kind of commit  when setting partitions in the win bootcd,
[04:19] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> ??///
[04:19] <bluefox83> killermach, make the windows machine your master drive, ubuntu drive the slave or set it to "cable select" and then pop the livecd and put the bootloader in the windows machine...
[04:19] <Otacon22> Anlar, what do you think about Familiar Linux ?
[04:20] <killermach> kitche: at this point I could care less about winxp, I need my workstation back
[04:20] <blorro> ive got this display problem, i cant connect my laptop to a 27 inch lcd monitor without losing the resolution , to 800 x600
[04:20] <kitche> killermach: if you only havve a fat partition then you whiped out your ubuntu most likely
[04:20] <killermach> I don't understand why my drive1 partitions ever got touched
[04:20] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30787/
[04:20] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> daedra?
[04:20] <bluefox83> killermach, pop just the ubuntu drive in, and check to make sure ubuntu still boots
[04:20] <killermach> kitche: yes so I'm looking for how to recover the partitions
[04:21] <mrsno> pawan success :) that means it should now work
[04:21] <kitche> killermach: get a tool like testdisk and such
[04:21] <killermach> bluefox83: I'm booted from the liveCD now to access the net
[04:21] <bluefox83> killermach, and the ubuntu drive is the only one plugged in?
[04:21] <cavediver> Hi guys. Can someonr point me to a recent guide on how to migrate a running server with 2 physically identical discs to RAID1. The non-/ drive is empty of course.
[04:21] <stefg> killermach: the bios might have swapped numbers, and you nuked the wrong drive
[04:22] <unix4me> How do I change my splash screen?
[04:22] <killermach> bluefox83: currently only drive1 FIesty is plugged in
[04:22] <royel> kathe_ti_pou_ana: what video card do you have?
[04:22] <r-c> how do i exit VI ???
[04:22] <blorro> ati card
[04:22] <bluefox83> killermach, i have nooo idea how to repair that....sorry D:
[04:22] <WM-666> unix4me: which splash ?
[04:22] <stefg> killermach: did you actually run the winxp installer?
[04:22] <pawan> its working
[04:22] <mind-shift> unix4me: You have to install a program
[04:22] <unix4me> VM-666: after login in, a splash saying "Ubuntu" appears, and then the desktop comes up
[04:22] <blorro> friend told me about atitool for linux
[04:23] <unix4me> mind-shift: what program?
[04:23] <liquiddoom> r-c: believe you use :q to exit
[04:23] <WM-666> ah the gnome-splash
[04:23] <blorro> cant seem to find it
[04:23] <limetang> I can't get my joystick working on Ubuntu 7.04. $ cat /proc/asound/card0/audiopci outputs "... Joystick enable  : on ..." and I've loaded analog and joydev, but jscalibrator says that it cannot access /dev/input/js0 (it does exist). I've tried two different joysticks and neither worked, any ideas?
[04:23] <killermach> stefg: the windows install was only completed with only drive2 installed in the system, fiesty was physically unblugged before commiting to install
[04:23] <liquiddoom> r-c: Yeah, :q.
[04:23] <r-c> liquiddoom i'll try that thx
[04:23] <orange__> How i set the setting for NTFS-3G Read/Write Driver usage3
[04:23] <orange__> usage
[04:23] <liquiddoom> r-c: also, sudo apt-get install vimtutor if you need it
[04:24] <blorro> so , anyone got tips ? Cant connect my thinkpad properly to LCD Tv ,
[04:24] <stefg> killermach: i see, so see if testdisk can sort things out
[04:24] <mind-shift> unix4me: Open up Add/Remove and search for splash screen
[04:24] <orange__> how i mount harddrive
[04:24] <stefg> !info testdisk | killermach
[04:24] <ubotu> killermach: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[04:24] <orange__> with "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows"
[04:24] <r-c> liquiddoom is that "q" or ":q" ?
[04:24] <mrsno> orange__ ntfs-config allows you to easily mount + enable read/write for ntfs partitions
[04:24] <liquiddoom> r-c: :q
[04:24] <orange__> mrsno how i able to dthat
[04:25] <mrsno> orange__ first install ntfs-config from synaptic, or at the terminal sudo aptitude install ntfs-config , then run it :-)
[04:25] <mind-shift> unix4me: You can also install art manager
[04:25] <nostotu> random question is there some type of cross windows linux remote control software i can get?
[04:25] <r-c> liquiddoom so i shift -> ; -> q ?
[04:25] <pawan> i am trying to install dancing particle plugin in xmms
[04:25] <liquiddoom> r-c: Yep.
[04:25] <liquiddoom> r-c: then press enter
[04:25] <nostotu> so while i'm at work i can play with linux? ^_^
[04:25] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30789/
[04:25] <killermach> bluefox83: I had fiesty drive1 and a empty drive2 installed and ran the winxp setup disk, when it got to choosing/creating partitions, it showed drive1, fiesty, as C:  healthy unknown, I then created partitions on drive2 which showed as unpartitioned space, then not finding a way to be sure that windows would be installed to drive2, I powered off the machine
[04:25] <mrsno> pawan that paste says it compiled ok, so restart xmms and try selecting the vis ?
[04:25] <liquiddoom> !vnc | nostotu
[04:25] <ubotu> nostotu: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[04:26] <kitche> nostotu: umm freenx maybe?
[04:26] <orange__> mrsno Nice thanks a lot.
[04:26] <mrsno> orange__ your welcome
[04:26] <sean> 43% [412 texlive-lang-mongolian 2365713/2884kB 82%]             41.0kB/s 4h5m24s <--- Don't think I'll be learning Mongolian any time soon... wish my wifi were faster so it didn't matter :P
[04:26] <nostotu> does vnc have a control that doesn't require install windows sie?
[04:26] <nostotu> side even
[04:26] <pawan> but i cant see that in xmms
[04:26] <mrsno> pawan on thats another plugin, you will need make install for it as well and possible more -dev files. First try sudo make install and see what that says
[04:26] <nostotu> !freenx
[04:26] <liquiddoom> nostotu: There's a java client
[04:26] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:27] <nostotu> hmmm
[04:27] <bulmer> fyi  Freenx  requires ssh client installed as it uses it to secure the link
[04:27] <kitche> nostotu: freenx works with the windows remote control program
[04:27] <r-c> is there a way to remove all the packages i installed in ubuntu server7.04
[04:27] <r-c> ?
[04:27] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30790/
[04:28] <liquiddoom> r-c: That would make the system unusable
[04:28] <blorro> anyone have an idea why i cant connect my ibm thinkpad to an external lcd tv without losin 1024x768 resolution?
[04:28] <killermach> stefg: there should be no information change on drive1 except the partition table, if I can restore that I think fiesty will still be there
[04:28] <nostotu> yea well my work has a lot of things blocked and such
[04:28] <nostotu> tryin to find a loop hole
[04:28] <nostotu> !vnc
[04:28] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[04:28] <mrsno> pawan install freeglut3-dev and libsdl1.2-dev
[04:28] <r-c> liquiddoom i followed some howto's and in the middel it comes up with problems
[04:29] <pawan> how
[04:29] <liquiddoom> r-c: dependency problems?
[04:29] <stefg> killermach: then testdisk is for you
[04:29] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> royel: ati x1600 (sapphire)
[04:29] <bluefox83> nostotu, be careful, some companies will fire you just for trying
[04:29] <mrsno> pawan the same way you installed nvidia-glx-dev :-)
[04:29] <blorro> ?
[04:29] <r-c> liquiddoom i have to be honest i have no clue
[04:29] <nostotu> oh, i kno
[04:29] <mrsno> pawan as you can see compiling by hand requires many dev packages, depending on what you are compiling, so it can be tricky
[04:29] <bulmer> nostotu  you can modify sshd to serve on port 80   which normally is not blocked
[04:29] <royel> kathe_ti_pou_ana: does it appear to lock up the system, or are you just losing video?
[04:29] <blorro> losing video
[04:29] <allquixotic> nostotu there are some web-driven services that let you share a desktop over a network with firewalls on both ends
[04:30] <pawan> ok
[04:30] <blorro> or if i change resolution to 800x600 it works
[04:30] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> the system hangs
[04:30] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> when it boot
[04:30] <nostotu> so many options
[04:30] <r-c> liquiddoom my server couldn't access mysqladmin
[04:30] <nostotu> i just want my linux box at home to have the server part and something i can useo n my flash drive to access my linux box at home
[04:30] <r-c> liquiddoom or something like that
[04:30] <nostotu> *located at home controlled from work
[04:30] <liquiddoom> r-c: Not sure what to do there.
[04:31] <bluefox83> nostotu, i think :putty" has some vnc stuff in it for windows...
[04:31] <bluefox83> *putty
[04:31] <r-c> liquiddoom thanks anyway, i think i should just reload the damn server and start allll over :(
[04:31] <allquixotic> nostotu that would be VNC, there are good VNC servers for Linux and good VNC clients for Windows
[04:31] <royel> kathe_ti_pou_ana: this is a new installation of feisty?
[04:32] <allquixotic> nostotu the important part is that your *outgoing* ports at work are not blocked. Actually it's a lot less likely that your outgoing ports are blocked than the incoming, at work. problem may be if you have NAT at home
[04:32] <blorro> q
[04:33] <Intalecture> /server -m irc.axpi.net
[04:33] <foo_> hmm, test
[04:34] <facecoos> Im going insande over this proftd thing
[04:35] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> royel:yes
[04:35] <askand> whats the default font in amsn?
[04:35] <r-c> liquiddoom how do i remove packages from my server to start over? pls
[04:35] <kronos> hello
[04:36] <kronos> i get the following error when i try to remove a package, how can fix it ?
[04:36] <kronos> ERROR while trying to
[04:36] <kronos> Aborting...
[04:36] <kronos> that appears in the log file
[04:37] <chimp_rex> Hi everyone! I just migrated from Windows XP to Ubuntu Feisty...and I need help. :-)
[04:37] <Nev`> Hello
[04:37] <MajorPayne> "Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (206.167.141.10). - connect (113 No route to host)"
[04:37] <MajorPayne> !ask | chimp_rex
[04:37] <ubotu> chimp_rex: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:37] <MajorPayne> !hi | Nev`
[04:37] <ubotu> Nev`: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:37] <chimp_rex> oh, thanks!
[04:37] <Nev`> I have one question: Howto obtain the Git diff model ? diff --git , --git no exist :(  plz
[04:38] <Nev`> thank :)
[04:38] <chimp_rex> Recently, i've been running Ubuntu LiveCD for a week to get the hang of it...the sound was working well that time...but now after i installed it wont.
[04:38] <pawan> ok
[04:38] <tck> !alsa
[04:38] <pawan> now
[04:38] <Vorian> Nev`, sudo apt-get install git git-core
[04:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:38] <Nev`> i have just install git :s
[04:38] <bulmer> what applications is Avahi really used for? multicast what services? in a private subnetwork? is it replacing a older feature?
[04:38] <tck> !alsa | chimp_rex
[04:38] <ubotu> chimp_rex: please see above
[04:38] <chimp_rex> ok. will do that.
[04:38] <Vorian> Nev`, git-clone <link>
[04:38] <chimp_rex> Thaks!
[04:39] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30792/
[04:39] <Kjellviz> hi there, my Amarok aint behaving to good, it starts fine but when i add a song to playlist it becomes greyed out and hangs  (im running kubuntu)
[04:39] <killermach> sfdisk -l shows 4 partitions, 1 type 4 FAT16 <32, and 3 more primary partitions all Type 0 and Empty sizes
[04:39] <Nev`> thank
[04:39] <tck> chimp_rex, no problem
[04:39] <Vorian> np Nev` :)
[04:39] <Nev`> :)
[04:39] <larson999> topic!
[04:39] <_wattazoum_> Hello there
[04:39] <chimp_rex> will try that...will give feedback later. :-)
[04:39] <kitche> bulmer: Avahi is a system which facilitates service discovery on a local network. This means that you can plug your laptop or computer into a network and instantly be able to view other people who you can chat with, find printers to print to or find files being shared.
[04:40] <r-c> pls help i need a command to remove packages pls
[04:40] <bluefox83> kitche, that sounds cool :O
[04:40] <killermach> testdisk doesn't seem to be searching the raw disk /dev/sda, but seems to be looking only at 113 cylinders/sectors (cannot tell which
[04:40] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30793/
[04:40] <bluefox83> r-c, apt-get remove <package>
[04:41] <bluefox83> r-c, erm...try sudo apt-get remove <package> as you kinda need sudo >.>
[04:41] <Vorian> kronos, your nick as in the html timekeeper app? just curious.
[04:41] <r-c> bluefox83 thx
[04:41] <allquixotic> sudo aptitude remove <package> if you're removing anything that might have dependencies... apt-get can be stupid about removing your entire system if you take out the wrong pieces
[04:41] <pawan> now
[04:42] <bulmer> kitche but those other people must also advertise their services via avahi too right? or one server acts at the distro point?
[04:42] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30793/
[04:42] <aike_> how can I change my REfresh Rate with kubuntu ?  I already tried the way shown in the wiki. But there does not happen anything. I can not choose another Refresh rate tough I already extended the horizontal refresh rate in /etc/x11/xorg.conf  What can I do ?
[04:42] <kelnoky> what's the command to see which apps are using the sound device?
[04:42] <allquixotic> kelnoky: fuser /dev/snd/pcm*
[04:43] <royel> kathe_ti_pou_ana: take a look at this and see if it might not be helpful.
[04:43] <pawan> my visualization plugin not working
[04:43] <kitche> bulmer: it pretty much actively searchs the network
[04:43] <royel> kathe_ti_pou_ana: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_on_a_ThinkPad_T21
[04:43] <sayers> With my dual core amd64 that will still work with I386 Ubuntu right?
[04:43] <allquixotic> kelnoky: be aware that it's potentially misleading if you are using a sound server that accesses the sound device out-of-process and you have clients connected to that server... some programs may crash if their sound server unexpectedly dies (e.g. you killed it)
[04:44] <pawan> now
[04:44] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30794/
[04:44] <willofthewisp3> Hey guys, I'm kinda new to linux, and I'm not sure what the best ftp server I can use under it. Any recommendations?
[04:45] <bulmer> kitche is it like the microsoft thing that one can click on an icon and search for printers and other net services? it seems similar in tone
[04:45] <allquixotic> sayers: I'd recommend *not* using the X86_64 architecture, even though your system supports it, due to many proprietary programs and some drivers being broken on X64. short answer is yes, the i386 distribution will work fine
[04:45] <sayers> willofthewisp3, the torrent is the fastest download
[04:45] <kitche> bulmer: it's Zeroconf for Apple OSX
[04:45] <pawan> now
[04:45] <sayers> allquixotic, I use amd64 version atm and java and everything is over-complicated
[04:46] <willofthewisp3> sayers: for an ftp server.
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> sayers: you might benefit from the i386 version.
[04:46] <bulmer> kitche, i heard of that, but i have never owned an apple or used osx..so i assume its like the microsoft feature
[04:46] <sayers> IndyGunFreak, I probably will
[04:46] <allquixotic> sayers: One problem with the x86_64 (amd64) version is that the Sun Java JRE doesn't support a browser plugin - don't know when they'll get around to that - so you've either got to use a 32-bit firefox or just use the i386 distro
[04:46] <predaeus> willofthewisp3, I used vsftpd (very secure ftp daemon) but there are a lot more see !ftpd
[04:46] <sayers> yes and allquixotic Skype doesnt work etc etc ETC
[04:46] <sayers> :)
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> sayers: i've got a 64bit PC, but 64bit Ubuntu is to big of a freakin pain, and the things that don't work annoy me, so I stick with 32bit, and everything is awesome.
[04:47] <kitche> bulmer: seems to eb NetBIOS is what your thinking of which yes Windows used to use
[04:47] <kbrosnan> allquixotic: sayers there is a plugin wraper for 64 bit firefox
[04:47] <davidpersson> helo
[04:47] <willofthewisp3> predaeus: Thanks! I'll look into it.
[04:47] <sayers> kbrosnan, i've tried
[04:47] <kbrosnan> http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux-amd64.html
[04:47] <System79> System79 is back from being away (Birthday)
[04:47] <aike_> does someone know how to set the refresh rate of the monitor ?
[04:47] <bulmer> kitche ahh okay...thanks for the insights
[04:48] <arpegius> is there a standard list of dev packages to install when building items from source?
[04:48] <System79> aike_: At your settings panel -> display
[04:48] <arpegius> gcc, etc....
[04:48] <arpegius> i ask because i don't yet have them installed and i'm looking for a solid list that will take care of most dependencies
[04:48] <kitche> arpegius: build-essential
[04:48] <IndyGunFreak> arpegius: if you install build-essentials, it will probabl;y install a majority of them
[04:49] <arpegius> kitche: IndyGunFreak  thanks... looks perfect
[04:49] <allquixotic> kbrosnan Only the Blackdown JRE appears to be supported, and that thing is *ancient technology*, really... I have apps that require JRE 1.5.0 and recommend 1.6.0
[04:49] <IndyGunFreak> arpegius: well, what programs do you have in mind installign?.. they might be in the repos(which is almost always best to us)
[04:49] <bulmer> arpegius you may want to look at linux embedded systems where one builds from scratch and you customize to your heart content
[04:49] <allquixotic> kbrosnan I have tried before to use the latest Sun JRE with a 64-bit Firefox and was unsuccessful, so....
[04:49] <kitche> bulmer: you mean lfs linux from scratch maybe?
[04:50] <System79> allquixotic, it works if you write your own plugin :\
[04:50] <aike_> System79: I tried, but The reresh rate I want to have is not listed there
[04:50] <System79> aike_: Then its not supported
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> allquixotic: just switch to 32bit, no need to keep complaining about it.
[04:50] <arpegius> IndyGunFreak: i'm setting up an itunes server. pretty good instructions here: http://www.mrblack.co.uk/blog/2007/04/02/tunnelling-music-from-ubuntu-to-itunes-via-ssh/ ... only im on amd64 so i have to build a few of his packages
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> arpegius: i see...
[04:51] <bulmer> kitche i dont know of lfs, i tried embedded systems where one builds from scratch including compilers and libraries..
[04:51] <kitche> bulmer: lfs is what your talking about embedded systems is like pda and such
[04:51] <arpegius> gdbm.h not found error... ideas?
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> arpegius: why not just use i386, so you can follow the instructions exactly, and you'll likely have less problems
[04:51] <allquixotic> IndyGunFreak, I've been on 32-bit for over a year, I was just trying to inform sayers (who started the 64-bit discussion) and kbrosnan about the unsolved JRE issues
[04:51] <bulmer> kitche yeah targeting pda, cellfones, those single board puters..
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> allquixotic: i see, my bad
[04:52] <kronos> Vorian: no
[04:52] <kitche> bulmer: well lfs is the same thing :)
[04:52] <arpegius> IndyGunFreak: i downloaded the deb package he references specifically, but it wouldn't install because of my arch settings
[04:52] <bulmer> kitche ah okay
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> arpegius: thats my point, why not just use 32bit?... it might be easier.
[04:52] <arpegius> IndyGunFreak: i'm pretty familiar w/ building apps from source. at least enough so they run fairly stable.
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> arpegius: but you didn't know about build-essential?
[04:53] <arpegius> IndyGunFreak: it's been a while....
[04:53] <vi390> System79: How can that be, My Monitor should be able for more than 50Hz
[04:53] <arpegius> i live on os x all day long
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> clearly.. well, good luck with it.
[04:53] <System79> vi390: Install your video card drivers =.=
[04:55] <unimatrix9> would it be an good idea to have a kind of keynote but then for ubuntu?
[04:55] <vi390> System79: seems they already are intalled .. hmm
[04:55] <System79> vi390: Then blame your drivers =.=
[04:55] <unimatrix9> and who should give the talk?
[04:55] <unimatrix9> jono bacon?
[04:55] <vi390> System79: :-) but where can there be found all the drivers
[04:55] <unimatrix9> LOL
[04:56] <System79> vi390: I dont know it should just work ;)
[04:56] <defcon> good morning all, quick question, for some reason when I installed my wireless card and set it up with ndiswrapper I am unable to use wlan0 with my wep key in gnome network manager, but I can connect with ifdown wlan0 ; ifup wlan0 how can I properly configure the network monitor/network manager for gnome so it connects?
[04:57] <unimatrix9> maybe its shows up too as eth1 , can you check?
[04:57] <defcon> im willing to paste info but im not too sure what to paste exactly, also I have wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces and it wont auto connect on boot? which file to I fix it
[04:58] <royel> !paste | defcon
[04:58] <ubotu> defcon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:58] <unimatrix9> then configure eth1, as your wireless instead of wlan
[04:58] <defcon> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:17:3F:C5:BF:91
[04:58] <defcon> unimatrix9, thankyou for the response, I have eth0 as a wired connection but I dont use it
[04:58] <allquixotic> defcon I find that NetworkManager really sucks with wifi and any kind of encryption/authentication, so I just wrote my own script to do the magic and put it in /etc/init.d...
[04:59] <unimatrix9> defcon, wich version of ubuntu?
[04:59] <defcon> allquixotic, word, so I could make a bash script that does if down and then ifup?
[04:59] <defcon> feisty
[04:59] <allquixotic> maybe someday when the developers get around to improving their GUIs and encryption abstraction layers or whatever, it will be usable :)
[04:59] <vi390> System79: should it rearrange the available refresh range, when changing the resolution
[05:00] <allquixotic> I have not found a respectable wifi GUI for Linux yet
[05:00] <System79> vi390: Possible >.> With my screen on max resolution my max refresh rate is 75 Hz
[05:00] <bluefox83> allquixotic, if you can do all that, why not help with the development?
[05:00] <unimatrix9> defcon , does the wireless not show up twice? what does the wireless manger say?
[05:00] <unimatrix9> manager
[05:00] <defcon> im not that advanced yet in ubuntu and dont know exactly how a wifi connection is established but I got it to work with ndiswrapper
[05:00] <defcon> unimatrix9, it shows up but it doesnt connect me
[05:01] <defcon> the only way for me to connect is ifdown then if up
[05:01] <unimatrix9> defcon, only as wlan0?
[05:01] <defcon> unimatrix9, correct
[05:01] <Koisoooo> hi. how do i play dvds in linux ubuntu feisty? thanks?
[05:01] <kitche> !dvd | Koisoooo you need libdvdcss2
[05:01] <ubotu> Koisoooo you need libdvdcss2: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:01] <allquixotic> bluefox83 that's a nice attitude :) yes I'd love to fix every single little problem I ever have with every Linux utility, but "diminishing returns" comes to mind
[05:01] <unimatrix9> defcon, what kind of card is this? usb, on motherboard..etc?
[05:02] <defcon> unimatrix9 usb r73 with ndiswrapper
[05:02] <bluefox83> allquixotic, if you can do it, you should for the mere fact that it's giving back to the community
[05:02] <Seoke> Can someone tell me what went wrong here http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8637/screenshotjn2.png I'm trying to install UT
[05:02] <defcon> connection is great but id like to auto connect instead of manually doing it each boot up
[05:03] <smoenux> Does anyone know if there is a workaround for JRE6 and Compiz Fuzion?
[05:03] <allquixotic> bluefox83 I give back to the community 8 hours a day at work :-) I come home, hack on my own hobby projects, and help in IRC where I can. at this point if I *start* any new project work, I'll have to curtail my efforts elsewhere, so it would be a zero net-gain
[05:03] <elvirolo2> hi everyone
[05:03] <bluefox83> allquixotic, ooooooh
[05:03] <unimatrix9> defcon lspci , what does it say?
[05:04] <unimatrix9> oh, sorry lsusb
[05:04] <unimatrix9> hehe
[05:04] <bluefox83> allquixotic, thank you for contributing :)
[05:04] <vi390> System79: ok seems to work now , thanks
[05:04] <defcon> it shows up as belkin components,
[05:04] <bluefox83> allquixotic, i wish i had some programming or scripting skills...i would be happy to contribute in my free time
[05:04] <allquixotic> bluefox83, it's nice to work for a company that owns an open-source project. http://www.hikerproject.org
[05:04] <System79> vi390: No problemo
[05:05] <elvirolo2> i'm looking for a laptop which would be compatible with ubuntu ... there a dozens of pages for hardware compatibility but that doesn't really help me ... would anyone recommend one model in particular?
[05:05] <l3on> Hi all
[05:05] <Seoke> Can someone tell me what went wrong here http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8637/screenshotjn2.png I'm trying to install UT
[05:05] <l3on> I'm some problem with apt-listbug
[05:05] <c_lisp> anybody know how to add programs to right click in gnome not using nautilus?
[05:05] <l3on> it says me DEBIAN BUGS and not UBUNTU BUGS !
[05:05] <allquixotic> elvirolo2, I have had very positive experiences with using the hardware of a Lenovo ThinkPad X60 on Ubuntu. I hear similar positive feedback with any ThinkPad from T42, T60, X60, etc.
[05:05] <l3on> why ?
[05:05] <bluefox83> allquixotic, that's pretty awesome ^_^
[05:06] <elvirolo2> allquixotic: thank you, i'll look these up :)
[05:06] <royel> elvirolo2: he is corret the Lenovo/Thinkpad models are very friendly to linux
[05:06] <elvirolo2> royel: ok :)
[05:06] <kitche> l3on: if you notice on packages.ubuntu.com it says debian changelog also because that's how they did it they just didn't change stuff to ubuntu instead
[05:06] <RenatoSilva> hi, i'm desperated
[05:07] <allquixotic> actually, I don't think there is any hardware in this ThinkPad X60 that *is not* supported by Ubuntu - even the TPM/Biometric Fingerprint Reader is supported via libthinkfinger
[05:07] <RenatoSilva> i've made a rm-rf with a folder, and i want to recovery it
[05:07] <bluefox83> are there any laptops with integrated wireless that is supported by linux without any proprietary drivers for the wireless card?
[05:07] <RenatoSilva> how?
[05:07] <royel> RenatoSilva: you can't
[05:07] <l3on> kitche: so It's completely
[05:07] <l3on> useless
[05:07] <royel> RenatoSilva: sorry, but that is gone
[05:08] <l3on> on Ubuntu System...
[05:08] <Nev`> bye
[05:08] <defcon> brb reboot
[05:08] <unimatrix9> defcon, does the wireless , in the right corner of your gnome desktop show anything?
[05:08] <kitche> l3on: no it's not
[05:08] <unimatrix9> hmm
[05:08] <RenatoSilva> royel: yes i can
[05:08] <unimatrix9> :)
[05:08] <RenatoSilva> royel: i just don't remember how
[05:08] <allquixotic> bluefox83, due to the method of firmware loading into the wireless chipset, any 100.0% Free Software wireless stack would be a violation of intellectual property and significantly more illegal than, say, libdvdcss2 (which itself is probably illegal in many interpretations of the DMCA)
[05:08] <RenatoSilva> royel: the files are there
[05:08] <smoenux> Is there a workaround for JRE6 and Compiz Fusion (Java windows are grey)
[05:08] <allquixotic> bluefox83 There are many "mostly open-source" wireless drivers for Linux but at some point you have to use proprietary firmware, I think
[05:09] <bluefox83> allquixotic, would you need ndiswrapper to get them working?
[05:09] <allquixotic> bluefox83 I am using a driver that is not ndiswrappered right now.
[05:09] <RenatoSilva> royel: i would delete only a subfolder, but trying to complete folder name i entered in the main folder :(
[05:10] <RenatoSilva> how to recover a folder removed with rm-rf?
[05:10] <allquixotic> bluefox83 there *are* native Linux wireless drivers, and they're open source. they have a "firmware loading utility" that injects volatile firmware into the wireless chipset which enables it on the hardware side. on the CPU/kernel side, the driver there is open
[05:10] <bluefox83> allquixotic, that's very cool...i intend to buy a laptop at some point, and i wanted to make sure i'd be able to find one with wireless that would just work when ubuntu is installed
[05:10] <mind-shift> DAMNIT, GNOME KICKS ASS!
[05:10] <kitche> !caps | mind-shift
[05:10] <ubotu> mind-shift: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:11] <allquixotic> bluefox83, oh if all you want is "just works", I hear rumor that certain ndiswrapper drivers "just work" without any changes. but I don't own a card that requires ndiswrapper, so
[05:11] <mind-shift> kitche
[05:11] <killermach> ok.. gpart /dev/sda found my partitions quickly, and I wrote them to disk, time to reboot in to my OS, brb
[05:11] <yow|5570> can someone tell me what pkg provides glib-genmarshal ?
[05:11] <RenatoSilva> how can I get again a folder removed with rm-rf
[05:11] <unimatrix9> i thought gnome was old fashion
[05:11] <RenatoSilva> ?
[05:11] <unimatrix9> hehe
[05:11] <killermach> ok.. FYI: all, I found my previous notes written in the margin of my Knoppix Hacks in Hack #55 Find Lost Partions
[05:11] <royel> RenatoSilva: so, you made an alias that places them into a "trash" folder?
[05:11] <silvertip257> Good Morning
[05:11] <Seoke> Can someone tell me what went wrong here http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8637/screenshotjn2.png I'm trying to install UT
[05:12] <RenatoSilva> royel: do u mean a softlink to that folder?
[05:12] <bo77> I tried to use the usermod -G command to add a new group but did not append. Result lost all other groups than the one I added. How to get them back ?
[05:13] <allquixotic> RenatoSilva, Did you use the built-in coreutil tool "rm" to nuke a folder? You do realize that under almost all circumstances this is unrecoverable?
[05:13] <silvertip257> Seoke:  sorry I can't help, but could you tell me what you're using for your Apps bar ... is that the python bar?
[05:13] <limetang> I can't get my joystick working on Ubuntu 7.04. $ cat /proc/asound/card0/audiopci outputs "... Joystick enable  : on ..." and I've loaded analog and joydev, but jscalibrator says that it cannot access /dev/input/js0 (it does exist). I've tried two different joysticks and neither worked, any ideas?
[05:13] <Seoke> silvertip257: I believe so
[05:13] <bluefox83> limetang, i have yet to hear of anyone in here that got joystick working...i have been wondering if you could do it in ubuntu...
[05:14] <unimatrix9> seoke , i think the file is corrupts
[05:14] <silvertip257> Seoke:  did you install it?
[05:14] <limetang> blueCommand: from the guides I've seen, it looks possible.
[05:14] <Seoke> silvertip257: nope how is it different from yours?
[05:14] <limetang> bluefox83, sorry.
[05:14] <Seoke> unimatrix9: I've tried redownloading it like 4 times >>
[05:14] <bluefox83> limetang, no problem
[05:14] <tomce> is there a live-transmission of ubuntu-live-oregon?
[05:14] <unimatrix9> hmmm
[05:14] <silvertip257> Seoke:  yes ... I'm looking for a nice way to customize / make mine more colorful & transparent
[05:14] <blueCommand> limetang: haha, that' the second time today!
[05:14] <limetang> Apologies, blueCommand.
[05:14] <Seoke> silvertip257: Right click the bar and go to preferences =P
[05:15] <bluefox83> tomce, i don't think so...but if you find one, let me know i am very interested in hearing it
[05:15] <silvertip257> oh?!
[05:15] <silvertip257> will try Seoke =)
[05:15] <blueCommand> limetang, Think no more about it :D
[05:15] <Seoke> silvertip257: Properties xD
[05:15] <yow|5570> can someone tell me what pkg provides glib-genmarshal ?
[05:15] <silvertip257> haha nice Seoke .. thanks
[05:15] <Seoke> silvertip257: no problem ^_^ anytime
[05:15] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> does anyone know how to config grub?
[05:15] <silvertip257> =)
[05:16] <elvirolo2> yeah the thinkpads look great... a bit expensive though
[05:16] <bluefox83> kathe_ti_pou_ana, to my knowledge the only way is to edit /boot/brug/menu.lst
[05:16] <unimatrix9> defcon, does wireless show up in the gnome desktop on the right?
[05:16] <defcon> unimatrix9, nope
[05:16] <defcon> if I go into roaming mode it does
[05:16] <royel> elvirolo2: yes, they are, but it's one of those cases where "you pay for what you get", and they are worth the extra money.
[05:17] <defcon> then I try and give it my wep key and it wont connect
[05:17] <unimatrix9> yes it shold
[05:17] <unimatrix9> should
[05:17] <elvirolo2> royel: ok
[05:17] <unimatrix9> i see
[05:17] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> bluefox83 i press esc when it loads and then i edit it but then when i boot (by pressing b) i cannot edit xorg.conf
[05:17] <defcon> unimatrix9, when I click on it, it just shows me enable networking, not enable wireless
[05:18] <unimatrix9> defcon, do the following, disable wireless roaming, then manually set it up with wireless manager in system / networks
[05:18] <defcon> and it doesnt show me anything or change anything
[05:18] <unimatrix9> defcon. ..once setup add on the menu of gnome
[05:18] <defcon> did that, thats what I did unimatrix9, unfortunately still not working
[05:18] <killermach> ok, I now have "error loading os" on boot, but the Hack#55 gives some more info
[05:18] <unimatrix9> the wireless manager icon
[05:19] <unimatrix9> defcon and select from the dropdown menu your wlan...or type it in
[05:19] <defcon> unimatrix9, I think wireless manager is screwd up cuz I am loading it and its froze
[05:20] <stavrosg_> The system freezes mere seconds after X starts [x86_64, -generic kernel]  . Running on console now with no apparent problems. I have a Pentium D and a VIA PT880 Pro based motherboard, any ideas?
[05:20] <unimatrix9> defcon, the thing is, when you set it up the first time, it should prompt for storing your wep key and ask for password
[05:20] <unimatrix9> defcon thats a bit tricky on fiesty...
[05:21] <defcon> unimatrix9, I set it up for hex encrypted key and it doesnt connect
[05:21] <defcon> what does network manager use to connect? maybe my permissions are screwed up or something
[05:21] <jughead> Hello, I have an interesting problem.  I have two remote machines.  I need one of them to access a website, then take a screensot or somehow caopy the data from the terminal, then scp it to the other remote machine.  How can I do that?
[05:21] <RenatoSilva> allquixotic_away: i do can recover it yes
[05:22] <RenatoSilva> allquixotic_away: files are still there
[05:22] <defcon> "Network Settings"= froze
[05:22] <RenatoSilva> allquixotic_away: only references was deleted, which includes the file names (my major problem)
[05:23] <RenatoSilva> allquixotic_away: the only thing unrecoverable are the file names
[05:23] <RenatoSilva> how to recover a folder removed with rm-rf?
[05:23] <smoenux> any workarounds for JRE6 and Compiz Fusion?
[05:23] <aelliott> jughead, does teh data have to be graphical? if its text data then its a lot easier
[05:25] <Orfeous> upgrading to gusty but i got some package errors..
[05:25] <Orfeous> bad image index
[05:25] <Orfeous> The generated cache was invalid.
[05:25] <Orfeous> any solutions?
[05:25] <unimatrix9> defcon, google around for your card..got to go eat, good luck with it ( or try an other wireless card )
[05:25] <defcon> unimatrix9, thankyou, have a good breakfast
[05:25] <defrysk> Orfeous, gutsy is not stable, try ubuntu+1 for solutions
[05:26] <jughead> aelliott, the data I need is from the terminal.  When I run the command "lynx http://whatismyip.org" the only thing that gets returned is my IP address.  That's what I need sent to the other machine
[05:26] <sx66gns> Hello
[05:26] <druid> can somebody help me i'm trying to run a .run script but it keeps saying there's an error in the md5 checksum
[05:26] <defrysk> druid, it means your download is incorrect
[05:27] <druid> ah so i can delete it
[05:27] <massctrl> mdadm can make a raid10 setup.  But you can't expand it.  If I would unify sets of raid1's with lvm2 into 1 big physical device, than I will have the possibility to expand.  Is there a better way to make an expandable raid 10 setup without a raidcontroller?  Its for a homebrew nas setup. (no production)
[05:27] <sx66gns> any ideas on troubleshooting amarok having very low volume compared to VLC , rythmbox etc.
[05:28] <saliak> hi!  I had a system that was running of a CF card (for a robot).  it was running for a while without a problem, then i took it apart to do some work on it.  when i re-assembled, it wouldn't boot anymore (it'd hang at the progress bar screen).  I reinstalled ubuntu to another CF card, and can mount the old card (so I copied off everything important).  how can i check/fix whatever errors were keeping it from booting?
[05:28] <aelliott> jughead the command "wget http://whatsmyip.org" will dump your ip into a file called index.html
[05:28] <druid> defrysk, ah so i can delete it ...thanks for the info
[05:28] <aelliott> jughead, just write a simple shell script that does the wget and then uses sendmail to forward the file to you
[05:29] <jughead> aelliott, I have never used sendmail... could I get that to email me the index.html?
[05:29] <saliak> i was thinking i could run fsck, but i'm not sure how to do it on an unmounted usb CF reader
[05:29] <aelliott> jughead, yes thats what its for :) its an email server
[05:29] <jughead> aelliott, do I have to set up sendmail with some kind of email account?  I only use gmail.
[05:29] <aelliott> jughead, im afraid i dont know the command to use off the top of my head, but im sure you can google it
[05:30] <aelliott> jughead you will need a destination account to receive the email, but you don't need to set an account up at your end to use sendmail
[05:30] <HEP85_> beep -f 698.5 -l 25 -D 25 -n -f 698.5 -l 28 -D 144 -n -f 698.5 -l 25 -D 25 -n -f 698.5 -l 28 -D 363 -n -f 987.8 -l 30 -r 4 -D 25 -n -f 493.9 -l 30 -r 7 -D 25
[05:31] <aelliott> jughead, and to automate the task you can just use cron to schedule the script to run as often as you want
[05:31] <tambu> does ubuntu use something instead of truss? doesn't seem to be installed and haven't had any luck searching for it in synaptic
[05:32] <aelliott> jughead, by the way - if you are doing all this because your ip address changes and you don't want your domain to break - there are lots of dynamic dns services on the web
[05:32] <stavrosg> how can I force the -generic kernel to not enable SMP mode ?
[05:32] <jughead> aelliott, yes I need cron to automate this - will wget automatically overwrite the old index.html each time it runs?
[05:32] <KDan_> what command can i type to immediately resync the date/time with a server online?
[05:32] <aelliott> jughead, yes it will overwrite the same file
[05:32] <CPrompt^> hi all.  can someone answer a quick question about dual boot with 2 hard drives?
[05:32] <mind-shift> I want to play DVD with encryption and mpeg's, which package should I install?
[05:33] <IndyGunFreak> !dvde
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <sil3nt|warri0r> hello frnds
[05:33] <IndyGunFreak> !dvd
[05:33] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:33] <mind-shift> am I still online+
[05:33] <mind-shift> yep
[05:33] <mind-shift> or?
[05:33] <mind-shift> it's very quiet in here
[05:33] <mind-shift> NOOOOOO, Im talking to myself
[05:33] <JodiH> !fetchmail
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fetchmail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <tambu> !truss
[05:33] <sil3nt|warri0r> is it possible to install ubuntu directly from the iso umage without burning it to cd or dvd
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <xtknight> mind-shift, yeah now stop spamming ;)
[05:33] <aelliott> jughead, i assume you have allready looked into using dyndns.org to look after your IP changes? I believe that the service is free if you use one of their domains, but even if you use your own its still pretty cheap
[05:33] <JodiH> !shorewall
[05:33] <xtknight> it's too early and none of us has had his coffee
[05:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:33] <IndyGunFreak> KDan_: i'm not sure there is a command for that.but you can set your clock settings to access a certain time server
[05:34] <jughead> aelliott, yes it's because of a changing IP address.  I have a little fileserver that I setup FreeNX and ssh, etc. on comcast doesn't have static IPs
[05:34] <CPrompt^> got an issue with multiple x.org config files.  Anyone know why that would be?
[05:34] <Pretor1ab> hello all
[05:34] <xtknight> stavrosg, specify "nosmp" on the kernel command line
[05:34] <IndyGunFreak> sil3nt|warri0r: there's a way to do that, but i'm not sure how.
[05:34] <Pretor1ab> is there a way to create dvd's from avi files using ubuntu ?
[05:34] <JodiH> !esmtp
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esmtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <stavrosg> xtknight: thanks
[05:34] <aelliott> jughead, if you can cope with your server having a domain name like jughead.dyndns.org, then you can have this done for free for you
[05:35] <desi4life> hello all
[05:35] <aelliott> jughead, basically you install a client onto your server and it automatically tells dyndns.org everytime your ip changes, they then change the IP address on their DNS servers
[05:35] <desi4life> can anyone suggest a good audio player which has good file management
[05:35] <Pretor1ab> is there a way to create dvd's from avi files using ubuntu ?
[05:36] <nair> amarok is a good one
[05:36] <jughead> thanks aelliott I'm looking into it now.  Are there any downsides to this service that you know of?
[05:36] <aelliott> jughead, take a look at this page - ihttp://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/t might be a good solution for you mate
[05:36] <desi4life> nair: was that an answer to my question?
[05:36] <CPrompt^> hey all.  I just switched out video cards and am having problems getting Linux to boot.  For some reason I have multiple xorg.conf files.
[05:36] <nair> yeap
[05:37] <desi4life> ok thx
[05:37] <nair> np
[05:37] <aelliott> jughead - yes the downsides are 1) you have to pay if you want your own custom domain name ie jughead.com, although it is free to use a subdomain of one of theirs (ie jughead.dyndns.org)
[05:37] <khadim> slt  a tous
[05:37] <khadim> comment installer limewire
[05:38] <aelliott> jughead and 2) there is a short delay before the new DNS record is populated around the planet - when your ip changes it could take 30 min - 2 hours to take effect. I usually find it pretty instant though
[05:38] <CPrompt^> desi4life : also check out DvdAuthor.  That might help as well.  Have to convert the avi to mpeg using something like ffmpeg
[05:38] <aelliott> jughead - but overall using a dynamic dns service is considered to be the best solution to the problem you are dealing with
[05:38] <liquiddoom> jughead: there's also freedns
[05:38] <tambu> Anyone know what package "truss" is part of it didn't come preinstalled apparently.
[05:38] <jughead> thanks aelliott
[05:39] <aelliott> jughead, yes dyndns are only one provider there are others
[05:39] <aelliott> np jughead
[05:39] <CPrompt^> need some help with a new video card.  anyone care to help :(
[05:39] <aelliott> jughead, let us know if you need anything else :)
[05:39] <desi4life> ok i have an issue
[05:39] <desi4life> anyone here use logitech wireless keyboard
[05:40] <desi4life> i get to xwindow login and my keyboard and mouse dont work for like 10-15secs
[05:40] <desi4life> and then eventually they'll start working
[05:40] <nair> is that a nvidia video card or a ati?
[05:40] <desi4life> i have an ati card
[05:40] <CPrompt^> nair : I have an ati
[05:40] <nair> sorry dude I have only used nvidia cards
[05:40] <nair> but I guess that is the same
[05:41] <nair> what do you need?
[05:41] <CPrompt^> yeah.  I think I'll put the nVidia back in.  Got the ATI Raedeon from a friend and thought I'd give it a shot
[05:42] <khadim_> slt a tous
[05:43] <desi4life> anyone know what my issue is?
[05:43] <aelliott> hey guys, does ubuntu have a PAE enabled kernel pre-built? I have 4gb ram but only see 3.5gb.  I don't want to use 64bit.
[05:43] <nair> well that is a 32 bit memory addressing limitation
[05:43] <diam> je voudrais installer limewire
[05:44] <MrTsunami> !fr | diam
[05:44] <ubotu> diam: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:44] <nair> it does not matter that OS you use as far as its 32 bit
[05:44] <diam> mais sa passe pas
[05:44] <thebigham> Hello everyone, my ubuntu partition has 140GB, and windows partition has 40 which is not enough, I wanted to redruce the size of the ubuntu partition and add it to windows partition,I have tried Partition Magic and GNOME Partition Editor, and they dont work.
[05:44] <xtknight> !info xen-hypervisor-3.0-i386-pae | aelliott
[05:44] <ubotu> aelliott: xen-hypervisor-3.0-i386-pae: The Xen Hypervisor for i386 (pae enabled version). In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0.3-0ubuntu10 (feisty), package size 262 kB, installed size 316 kB
[05:44] <xtknight> that's all i know of
[05:44] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hey folks!
[05:44] <aelliott> xtknight: thanks mate
[05:44] <xtknight> nair, PAE is supposed to let you use over 4gb virt on a 32bit system
[05:45] <xtknight> tad buggy that's why it's not mainstream i think
[05:45] <xtknight> or maybe just becuse most people dont need it
[05:45] <MrTsunami> thebigham: can you successfully shrink your ubuntu partition?
[05:45] <thebigham> MrTsunami: No =(
[05:45] <nair> I did not know about that :S
[05:45] <gnuskewl> thebigham> try parted
[05:45] <emosamurai> Hi. I'm trying to bittorrent, and azureus tells me that I might have a firewall up preventing me from bittorrent.
[05:45] <thebigham> Gparted?
[05:45] <emosamurai> How do I change that?
[05:46] <emosamurai> And how do I open port 46782 UDP?
[05:46] <xtknight> emosamurai, ubuntu doesn't have any firewall rules by default
[05:46] <aelliott> emosamurai: are you behind a router
[05:46] <emosamurai> Yes.
[05:46] <xtknight> if you're behind a NAT router you must configure that
[05:46] <IndyGunFreak> emosamurai: then you probably need to adjust your router settings.
[05:46] <xtknight> put yourself in DMZ, or forward that port to you MAC/IP
[05:46] <aelliott> emosamurai: you need to access the router and tell it to port forward 46782 to your local ip address
[05:46] <emosamurai> How do I find my local IP address?
[05:46] <xtknight> emosamurai, ifconfig -a
[05:46] <aelliott> emosamurai: ifconfig
[05:47] <DyD_> i am attempting to reroute x through ssh
[05:47] <xtknight> !gparted | thebigham
[05:47] <ubotu> thebigham: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:47] <DyD_> i get two error messages
[05:47] <DyD_> /usr/bin/X11/xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/dyd/.Xauthority
[05:47] <MrTsunami> !partitions | thebigham
[05:47] <ubotu> thebigham: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:47] <DyD_> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[05:47] <DyD_> Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[05:47] <gnuskewl> thebigham. tried gparted yet
[05:47] <IndyGunFreak> !paste | DyD_
[05:47] <ubotu> DyD_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:48] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> so i was in here yesterday looking for the answer about me not being able to resize anything on my desktop ( i am running beryl) someone mentioned to me that it was a flaw with my gfx card and beryl ..can anyone els help me with this?
[05:48] <tambu> Can someone at least say they don't know, to my question i'm getting paranoid my messages aren't being received :) Does anyone know where/how to get truss onto ubuntu? Thx
[05:48] <xtknight> tambu, truss=?
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> tambu: depends on what your question is?
[05:48] <aelliott> tambu - reading you loud and clear, is truss a software package?
[05:48] <nair> tambu I don't know
[05:48] <gnuskewl> :D
[05:48] <thebigham> I have tried Gpart already
[05:49] <tambu> IndyGunFreak: thx.. I need to install truss. I can't seem to find it pre-installed nor a package for it
[05:49] <xtknight> thebigham, and you cuoldn't shrink a partition?  why not?
[05:49] <royel> tambu: what is truss?
[05:49] <xtknight> thebigham, you might need the tools for the file system
[05:49] <IndyGunFreak> tambu: then you'll likely have to compile it from source
[05:49] <thebigham> its a ext3
[05:49] <xtknight> tambu, i will guide you through compiling it then.  give the URL
[05:49] <tobi1canobe> DyD_, did you use su ?
[05:49] <tambu> aelliott: truss is debug tool for reading the system intput output request for applications
[05:49] <aelliott> tambu: you mean this http://www.scit.wlv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/mansec?1+truss ?
[05:49] <Trigger-Happy> Can I change font color to green in console mode?
[05:49] <xtknight> Trigger-Happy, click edit->current profile
[05:49] <royel> Trigger-Happy: yes
[05:50] <tambu> I've never seen a linux distro that didn't come with it.. I'm a bit surprised nobody has heard of it.
[05:50] <thebigham> i have tried using Gparted with the Live CD, and it didnt work.
[05:50] <xtknight> tambu, not installed by default, surely?
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> what is truss?
[05:50] <DyD_> tobi1canobe: yes
[05:50] <xtknight> i don't see it in debian either
[05:50] <DennisG> hi. ive got a problem :P
[05:50] <DyD_> sudo
[05:50] <Trigger-Happy> No-no, command-line system. plain text
[05:50] <tobi1canobe> and you are trying to ssh -X to some other box from that su session ?
[05:50] <thebigham> and now the resize option for the ubuntu partition is unavailable
[05:50] <gnuskewl> thebigham:re you root
[05:50] <aelliott> tambu: "strace" is supposed to be the linux equivalent command
[05:50] <tobi1canobe> DyD_, ^^
[05:50] <xtknight> Trigger-Happy, oh maybe in ~/.bashrc i dont know
[05:50] <DyD_> oooh
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> !ask | DennisG
[05:50] <ubotu> DennisG: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:50] <DennisG> fglrx dont run correcly
[05:51] <DyD_> i didn't sudo ssh from my local box
[05:51] <tambu> aelliott: ah strace ok thx.. lemme give that a shot :)
[05:51] <DennisG> when i select it, and restart my pc, it says No Signal
[05:51] <DyD_> thanks
[05:51] <DennisG> when it comes to the login screen
[05:51] <xtknight> tambu, and ltrace traces library calls
[05:51] <royel> Trigger-Happy: yeah, you can do that too, although.. I don't recall off top of my head, let me look a minute
[05:51] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> well i can tell thats a tuff one.. so lets slow it down for all our brains on this Sunday morning.... i d/l this rpm and having troubles getting it to work.. any takers?
[05:51] <thebigham> gnuskewl:how can i do that?
[05:51] <tambu> xtknight: thx will try that too
[05:51] <Trigger-Happy> royel, i'll be grateful
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: well, that because its anrpm package.... compile it from source to make it .deb, or use alien
[05:52] <DennisG> My graphical card is a ati radeon 9550 btw
[05:52] <tobi1canobe> DyD_, your not suposed to sudo ssh either
[05:52] <DennisG> in ubuntu-nl they cant find a solution
[05:52] <gnuskewl> thebigham: type su b4 the command
[05:52] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> indy: thats great... i did know that .. but its been so long since i had to do this... any chance of a step by step .
[05:53] <gnuskewl> thebigham:sudo b4 the command
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: step by step of what?
[05:53] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> indyGunFreak: well lets go back to the basics...
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: ok, wel,l the basics are, don't download an rpm package
[05:54] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: what program is it?
[05:54] <IndyGunFreak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: after that, a basic is, don't compile packages when you're new, find something in the repos, or pre-compiled
[05:54] <DennisG> fglrx does not work. When i select it and restart my computer, it says "No Signal"
[05:54] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Indy: well thats all good and great info. but its a suse update that has my lissb in there that i need for a program.
[05:54] <DennisG> and then my monitor goes into standbye. But the computer is still running
[05:54] <IndyGunFreak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: are you using ubuntu?
[05:55] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> indy: yes i am .. and yes i know its a suse update..
[05:55] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: you can use apt-get -alien i believe to open an RPM, but you are better off googling for the name of the library you need + the word ubuntu
[05:55] <IndyGunFreak> !alien | Vsop_vsop_vsop_v
[05:55] <ubotu> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:56] <DennisG> nobody who can help me?
[05:56] <arpegius> what do most ppl use these days for managing id3s from the command line?
[05:56] <GOD> boker tov
[05:56] <amishjim> AELLIOTT: THATS ALWAYS A GOOD SEARCH PHRASE, TOO MANY DONT EVEN TRY IT
[05:56] <amishjim> oops srry caps
[05:56] <IndyGunFreak> !beryl | DennisG
[05:56] <ubotu> DennisG: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:56] <emosamurai> Does anybody know how to hack a router? I forgot my username and password.
[05:57] <aelliott> amishjim: forums would be empty if people searched properly :P
[05:57] <aelliott> emosamurai: look for a reset button :)
[05:57] <IndyGunFreak> aelliott: well, not completely.., but it'd be pretty boring here.
[05:57] <emosamurai> Oh... okay.
[05:57] <GOD> emos : use the reset button on the bottom
[05:57] <unix4me> Hi. I have 6.10.  When I try to update to 7.04 this pops up: Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server.
[05:57] <GOD> or back
[05:57] <amishjim> lol yea
[05:57] <nair> their muts be a reseat button in your router or check the manual of the router
[05:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i am aware of the issues and implications of using rpm, but i need One pck that i cant find in apt-get cache ssl
[05:57] <IndyGunFreak> unix4me: i'd guess there may be a problem with the network or with the server
[05:57] <aelliott> emosamurai: its not exactly "hacking" but it should work :)
[05:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i meant Search!!
[05:58] <aelliott> emosamurai: remember that you will lose all your existing settings when you do it though
[05:58] <unix4me> IndyGunFreak: but I'm on the internet perfectly right now.
[05:58] <DennisG> IndyGunFreak, i wanna keep gnome ;)
[05:58] <IndyGunFreak> unix4me: maybe the problem is on their end
[05:58] <alaQ> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: what package are you looking for?
[05:58] <GOD> emos, or you could try to dl the firmware and decyript the pass from there
[05:58] <IndyGunFreak> DennisG: are you just trying to install the ATi driver, or install BeryL?
[05:58] <unix4me> IndyGunFreak: how do I fix that?
[05:58] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> one sec::
[05:59] <GOD> or just try admin:admin admin:password
[05:59] <IndyGunFreak> unix4me: well, you don't.. the problem is on THEIR end...
[05:59] <DennisG> ati driver dont work, it dont support opengl very well
[05:59] <nair> is their a tool to make *.deb from rpms?
[05:59] <DennisG> it give errors when i wanna play sofII
[05:59] <IndyGunFreak> DennisG: ati's driver sucks, always has, probably always will(or at least fr the forseeable future)
[05:59] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | DennisG
[05:59] <ubotu> DennisG: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:59] <GOD> or you could even ask the owner what the password is
[05:59] <DennisG> thnx
[05:59] <unix4me> IndyGunFreak: So what should I do?
[05:59] <NapsteR> hi all
[05:59] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ala@: i am looking for libssl0.9.6
[05:59] <daedra> hello
[05:59] <skollie> !rpm | nair
[05:59] <ubotu> nair: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:59] <NapsteR> how can i enable my desktop effects?
[06:00] <unix4me> what do the ops do?
[06:00] <puzzle> hi, somebody use notebook hp?
[06:00] <IndyGunFreak> unix4me: uh, find another server..., mabe download the full version of Feisty, and do a clean install, wait out the problem, i don't know, what do you want to do?
[06:00] <xtknight> puzzle, i use an hp dv2000
[06:00] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> when i search for it all i get is libssl0.9.7
[06:00] <unix4me> NapsteR: system>preferences>desktop effects
[06:00] <skollie> puzzle: I have one, yes
[06:00] <NapsteR> i know that
[06:00] <unix4me> IndyGunFreak: how do I find another server?
[06:00] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> and ya seems not to be the right one..
[06:00] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/oldlibs/libssl0.9.6
[06:00] <alaQ> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: any specific reason you need 0.9.6?
[06:00] <NapsteR> but it doesnt work
[06:00] <IndyGunFreak> don't know unix
[06:00] <alaQ> or just follow aelliott's link.
[06:00] <NapsteR> i have an x1900xt videocard
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ala yahoo..
[06:01] <NapsteR> and i cant enable them
[06:01] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: thats for breezy. what version of Ubuntu are you on
[06:01] <GOD> ala?
[06:01] <unix4me> NapsteR: you need intel or nvidia.
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Sorry
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> alaQ: i ment to say
[06:01] <NapsteR> i have an intel pentium d940
[06:01] <NapsteR> 64bit
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> sheesh
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> ATI sucks for Linux, when will people learn
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i am on 6.10
[06:01] <unix4me> NapsteR: I meen the graphics card. Sorry :P
[06:01] <GOD> oh, thaught u were calling me
[06:01] <quaal> ati sucks for more than linux
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> HAHAH GOD
[06:01] <GOD> :)
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> NICE
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> quaal: lol, well true, but sucking at Linux is near te top of the list
[06:02] <_wattazoum_> IndyGunFreak, some times people doesn't have the choice
[06:02] <NapsteR> i have payed 500$ for this video card....
[06:02] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: lol, thats a very handy co-incidence
[06:02] <unix4me> IndyGunFreak: how do I choose a different server?
[06:02] <NapsteR> and know people said that sucks
[06:02] <puzzle> xtknight and skollie, which modem yous uses?
[06:02] <DennisG> IndyGunFreak, i know how to change from driver, but when i use fglrx, and i restart gnome, the monitor says No signal and goes into standbyem, but the computer is still running
[06:02] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> and whats the big hype with ATI i am running ati X1400 and it works just fine
[06:02] <xtknight> puzzle, hmm i dont use a modem
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> _wattazoum_: then why come here and complain when it doesn't work?.. use the generic driver and be happy, i done it for a long time when i had ATI
[06:02] <xtknight> puzzle, only ethernet and wireless
[06:02] <skollie> puzzle: I use a pci wireless modem
[06:02] <NapsteR> i dont know whats a generic driver
[06:03] <_wattazoum_> IndyGunFreak : I have an ATI too, and open source drivers works too
[06:03] <NapsteR> so?
[06:03] <ViljasenMatti> "<aelliott> forums would be empty if people searched properly :P" If they did, there would be no forums to google from and IRC channels would be packed ;D
[06:03] <daedra> ATi sucks
[06:03] <aelliott> ViljasenMatti:  touche! :)
[06:03] <ViljasenMatti> no, ati doesn't suck
[06:03] <NapsteR> how can i make them work?
[06:03] <ViljasenMatti> IMO ;)
[06:03] <IndyGunFreak> _wattazoum_: ok... funny, there's a lot of questions in here about ATI, every single day.., and Nvidia questions are usually solved in about 5min
[06:03] <FreckledP> yes ATI sucks
[06:03] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> aelliott: sorry i missed your statement.. whats a very hand co-incidence?
[06:03] <_wattazoum_> It 's no use to just say ATI sucks
[06:03] <FreckledP> :)
[06:04] <GOD> i prefer an IBM chipset
[06:04] <allquixotic_away> is there a package that will nip my toenails for me?
[06:04] <daedra> even their windows drivers don't fully utilise the power of their cards
[06:04] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: arnt you using Breezy?
[06:04] <pSychlome> Can someone tell me how it was to refresh apt?
[06:04] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> sorry no i am useing edgy
[06:04] <NapsteR> so noone can help me?
[06:04] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v:  oh i see lol, sorry
[06:04] <quaal> allquixotic, yes its called a woman
[06:04] <pSychlome> I`ve put a new sources.list
[06:04] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Aelliott: wow whats that sorry for?
[06:04] <royel> Trigger-Happy: I'm not having much luck, I was thinking it was something in ~.bashrc, that does change the prompt colors, but I haven't got one to change my text colors... yet!
[06:04] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> lol
[06:04] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: try downloading the package from that link, it should still install fine
[06:04] <allquixotic> quaal: you are lucky that I am not a woman :-)
[06:04] <puzzle> skollie, but which modem use notebook beyond ethernet and wireless?
[06:04] <pinkdoll> hello
[06:04] <daedra> !woman
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about woman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <_wattazoum_> pSychlome : sudo apt-get update
[06:04] <allquixotic> LOL daedra
[06:04] <silvertip257> quaal:  has fios?
[06:04] <quaal> allquixotic, women dont know how to use the internets
[06:05] <ViljasenMatti> uh, that was that ATI problem again?
[06:05] <skollie> puzzle: what do you mean?
[06:05] <pSychlome> _wattazoum_: thanks alot
[06:05] <alaQ> ubotu must be lonely... :)
[06:05] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> fawn really dont like my laptop.. well i should say my gfx card
[06:05] <Trigger-Happy> royel, thanks i'll continue my quest alone :-)
[06:05] <ViljasenMatti> that=what
[06:05] <quaal> silvertip257, correct
[06:05] <silvertip257> quaal:  nice =)
[06:05] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, mine?
[06:05] <quaal> silvertip257, yep.. 20/5 i'm happy
[06:05] <NapsteR> i cant enable my desktop effects
[06:05] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, tell me
[06:05] <_wattazoum_> NapsteR : fill a bug on Launchpad
[06:05] <silvertip257> quaal:  20 hrs / 5 days ?
[06:05] <IndyGunFreak> NapsteR: what kind of graphics device?
[06:05] <NapsteR> radeon x100xt
[06:05] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti,  when i use fglrx, and i restart gnome, the monitor says No signal and goes into standbyem, but the computer is still running
[06:05] <GOD> 82845g/gl IBM Graphics chipset
[06:05] <quaal> silvertip257, 20mbps down 5mbps up
[06:06] <NapsteR> 1900
[06:06] <NapsteR> srry
[06:06] <aelliott> NapsteR: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in an editor and tell us what driver you have set up
[06:06] <NapsteR> x1900xt
[06:06] <_wattazoum_> lol ATI :p
[06:06] <silvertip257> oh lol quaal ... mighty price tag on it right?
[06:06] <quaal> 49/mo
[06:06] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, so that means it boots just fine?
[06:06] <quaal> only 5more than my cable was
[06:06] <IndyGunFreak> another ati problem.. hmm.
[06:06] <DennisG> yeah
[06:06] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> so ya.. not that i got some attention with a silly question.. what about the fact that i cant resize anything on my desktop..
[06:06] <DennisG> when it goes to toe login part
[06:06] <silvertip257> not so bad quaal .. not much more than cable
[06:06] <DennisG> it says no signal
[06:06] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Now**
[06:06] <ViljasenMatti> now, that's weird
[06:06] <ViljasenMatti> what's your system conf?
[06:06] <tambu> Thx guys, strace helped solve my problem, and I just realized that truss is on solaris :P my bad. I've been working on this too long :P
[06:06] <allquixotic> hmm.
[06:06] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, you mean xorg.conf?
[06:06] <allquixotic> sean@vk5rms:~$ apt-cache search woman
[06:06] <allquixotic> sean@vk5rms:~$
[06:07] <aelliott> tambu: glad to hear it
[06:07] <Shoopuf> Would a cheap Sound Blaster card be more compatible with Ubuntu than my ASUS on-board sound?
[06:07] <ViljasenMatti> no, I mean your graphics adapter an such
[06:07] <NapsteR> i have the latest driver
[06:07] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> tambu: most times its just great to walk away ... go for a puff and clear ya head then come back to it.. works wonders
[06:07] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, its a ati radeon 9550GE
[06:07] <IndyGunFreak> Shoopuf: whats wrong with your onboards ound?
[06:07] <NapsteR> how can i make them work?
[06:08] <FreckledP> DennisG, has it ever worked?
[06:08] <DennisG> no, not in linux
[06:08] <tambu> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: I don't smoke... perhaps thats my problem :P
[06:08] <DennisG> on windows, yes.
[06:08] <aelliott> ubotu, tell NapsteR about ati
[06:08] <Shoopuf> IndyGunFreak: Quake 1, NEStopia, Frets of Fire all have sound problems, also the only way for me to adjust the sound is through "Speaker 1" (which is the combination of the 8 channels)
[06:08] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i am running beryl and and someone said that there is a flaw with beryl and my gfx card...  can anyone concur with this?
[06:08] <allquixotic> !ati
[06:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:08] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, that should work with the open driver (mine is Mob Radeon 9600 Pro), do you especially need fglrx?
[06:08] <NapsteR> i have installed the latest drivers
[06:08] <puzzle> somebody use modem SmartCP for Conexant?
[06:08] <FreckledP> DennisG, so when you go to boot the install disc, it doesn't display anything after the system boot.... at about the login screen
[06:09] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> tambu: well hey not that i would recomend that.. but if you think thats goin to help
[06:09] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, yes, otherwise opengl dont work
[06:09] <allquixotic> NapsterR: what do you get when you run glxinfo | grep direct
[06:09] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, what ubu version?
[06:09] <sivik> ok, we had to move someones /var folder to its own partition and now the customer is complaining about mail recieving is delay, is there somewhere in a mail configure file or cpanel where we can or need to change something, is this an issue with cpanel or the os?
[06:09] <IndyGunFreak> Shoopuf: that might be a wine issue, does your sound work otherwise.. with native programs?
[06:09] <NapsteR> i get direct rendering: Yes
[06:09] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, 7.04, and i get this error: http://imgdumper.com/index.php?p=view&id=8154
[06:09] <simonaG> hi all
[06:09] <FFForever> how do i see how big a folder is from the command line?, it just says 4kb.....
[06:09] <aelliott> NapsteR: are glxgears fast when you run them?
[06:09] <skollie> puzzle: if you're looking for a driver, google 'conexant ubuntu'
[06:10] <royel> Trigger-Happy: setterm looks promising: setterm --help for more info
[06:10] <NapsteR> i dont know what are they :((
[06:10] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> sorry to push.. but kinda silly that i cant resze anything on my desktop..
[06:10] <allquixotic> aelliott: glxinfo reports direct rendering: Yes for him, so that isn't really necessar
[06:10] <Shoopuf> IndyGunFreak: all those games are linux versions, but sound does work with other programs yes. I just find it peculiar that I have to adjust the sound through "Speaker 1" and not "Speaker" in the Alsa Mixer.
[06:10] <NapsteR> glxgears
[06:10] <nicholas76> Hello. I have Windows Vista Home Premium on my computer and  want to install Ubuntu. I have used the Live CD and it works great. I was wondering...After Ubuntu is installed, will GRUB detect Vista automatically?
[06:10] <pyrokay> hey guys, i has a trvial problem, in that i can't move my mouse - it worked fine before, and i had to do a hrad reboot, and now it just doesn't work.
[06:10] <sivik> nicholas76, yes
[06:10] <nicholas76> Are you sure?
[06:10] <allquixotic> aelliott: NapsterR: I frankly don't know whether the default desktop effects uses Beryl or Compiz, but you should try switching from one to the other
[06:10] <sivik> nicholas76, at least it has with the older versions of winblows
[06:10] <alaQ> nicholas76: yes.  Running dual-booted here.
[06:10] <nicholas76> No additional setup?
[06:10] <Seoke> Whats the terminal command to delete a folder?
[06:11] <pyrokay> rm -r
[06:11] <FFForever> nicholas76, grub found my vista home basic
[06:11] <FFForever> :D
[06:11] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, so you want to play games :) that's a good reason fglrx :D
[06:11] <DennisG> Seoke, , rm -rf
[06:11] <nicholas76> Cool
[06:11] <nicholas76> Thanks
[06:11] <NapsteR> ok i will try
[06:11] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, ok
[06:11] <NapsteR> thanks
[06:11] <sivik> nicholas76, as long as u install the grub on the mba and not on the partition u should be good to go
[06:11] <nicholas76> That helps :-)
[06:11] <Nicke> FFForever: du -sh folder
[06:11] <Seoke> Dennis6: Where do I put the path to the folder at?
[06:11] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, but it just dont works. When i set the friver to fglrx, and i restart gnome, it says No signal
[06:11] <mind-shift> Is there a SIMPLE painting program written in gtk?
[06:11] <mind-shift> Any recommendations?
[06:11] <mind-shift> If I could bring 2 programs from qt, I would have Konversation and Kolourpaint
[06:12] <daedra> hey how about rmdir
[06:12] <alaQ> mind-shift: gpaint?
[06:12] <aelliott> mind-shift: isn't GNU paint a gtk app?
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> mind-shift: you can install those programs on Gnome, it will install the KDE libraries necessary to run it... I use Amarok, because its probably the best IPOD tool there is(IMO)..
[06:12] <daedra> hey my /media/sda3/music/Sigur Rs/()/Untitled 1
[06:12] <daedra> whoops
[06:13] <pyrokay> heh
[06:13] <daedra> just messing with autocomplete
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> only KDE apps I use is Ktorrent, Amarok
[06:13] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, how familiar are you with xorg.conf?
[06:13] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, im not.
[06:14] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, have you modified it?
[06:14] <DennisG> yes and no... they said some things in ubtuntu-nl
[06:14] <Injen> Anyone notice any mirc scripting "socket" problems running mirc under wine? :/
[06:14] <cyberphaz> why would you want to use mirc under wine?
[06:15] <nicholas76> Ubuntu is awesome! All you Windows fans, come on and switch (You can dual-boot.) to Ubuntu!!!
[06:15] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, what outputs does your card have?
[06:15] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, dvi, vga, tv-out etc
[06:15] <zac> no fake, nicholas
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> Injen: why in the world do you run IRc under wine?
[06:15] <DennisG> dvi, vga, tv out
[06:15] <ViljasenMatti> nicholas76, I think we all know that
[06:15] <alaQ> nicholas76: preachin' to the choir here, buddy :)
[06:15] <_wattazoum_> nicholas76, is on the place :-p
[06:16] <zac> there should be no reason to run mIRC under WINE
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> Injen: running IRC w/ wine, is a bit like putting a chevette engine in a corvette
[06:16] <Injen> I'm just curious in theory, I notice some of my script don't work on nix
[06:16] <zac> you have XCHat
[06:16] <zac> which is the best IRC client anyways
[06:16] <Injen> Nah
[06:16] <cyberphaz> kvirc is nie too
[06:16] <pyrokay> *cough* irsssi
[06:16] <Injen> :P
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> xchat, xchat-gnome, irssi, bitchx, and several others
[06:16] <daedra> irssi
[06:16] <aelliott> irssi
[06:16] <Injen> If khaled made a nix version, mirc wns
[06:16] <FFForever> how do i make a folder "link"
[06:16] <cyberphaz> i like kvirc since its very similar to mirc :P
[06:16] <Injen> irssi,, you should be ashamed
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> irssi is to bare for me.... i need a least a little bit of a GUI..lol
[06:17] <alaQ> konversation.
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> whats the kdE irc client, konversation?
[06:17] <zacdavis> sometimes i feel like going full terminal though
[06:17] <daedra> well some people are in #ubuntu to get xserver to work... so they NEED irssi
[06:17] <aelliott> if your installing gentoo or something like that, then terminal IRC is pretty useful
[06:17] <zyth> daedra, xchat-text works too ;)
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> daedra: i didn't say irssi didn't have its place, just saying unless i absolutely had to use it, i wouldn't use it.
[06:17] <daedra> its best to learn the bare minimum just incase you need to one day
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> daedra: now i do agree with that.
[06:18] <Injen> Sorry, im just salty, because I was one of those few to be owned by irssi implanted backdoor, Ill trust eating nails for iron before irssi, again.
[06:18] <aelliott> in ubuntu its not as necessary, but still worth having - what if your X server breaks and you need help?
[06:18] <Injen> telnet irc :/ :P
[06:18] <aelliott> lol :)
[06:18] <Injen> Not practical on some networks, but yall dont ping here
[06:18] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> so do i need to ask if there is a beryl guru in the room??
[06:18] <ibb217> hoi
[06:18] <ubuntu> What kind of backdoor with irssi? :O
[06:18] <Injen> Google it,
[06:18] <Injen> then bastard
[06:18] <Shoopuf> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: Try #ubuntu-effects
[06:18] <Injen> them bastards*
[06:18] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> that dont help me
[06:18] <daedra> backdoor eh
[06:19] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> or does it
[06:19] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> lol
[06:19] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti ?
[06:19] <_wattazoum_> hehe , ubotu is fun
[06:19] <alaQ> irssi (or weechat in ncurses for others) through ssh.
[06:19] <daedra> alaQ: how do you do that?
[06:19] <mz--> hi.  attempting to do a reinstall, booted off the livecd, when double clicking the 'install' icon, i get the error "failed to exec new process: exec format error".  any ideas?
[06:19] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, can you attach more than one display to your card?
[06:19] <DennisG> yeah
[06:19] <Housito> Hi to everybody from spain
[06:20] <pyrokay> mz--, tried rebooting?
[06:20] <zacdavis> mz--: try rebooting
[06:20] <mz--> pyrokay: ill give it a shot
[06:20] <alaQ> daedra: have either irssi or weechat installed on the host box, ssh to it, and then run it.
[06:20] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, yeah
[06:20] <Housito> know something about a ubuntu keyboard with the replacement of the windows key?
[06:21] <aelliott> Housito: no but it would be cool
[06:21] <daedra> so in order to use ssh you need two boxes?
[06:21] <nicholas76> Housito, not that i know of
[06:21] <aelliott> either that or a nice "M$" symbol on it :)
[06:21] <pc_> Bonjour  tous, j' ai du mal  lire certaines videos du fait d'un manque de codecs.
[06:21] <nicholas76> xD
[06:21] <cyberphaz> you can ssh on your loopback device :P
[06:21] <Pici> !fr | pc_
[06:21] <Housito> damn...
[06:21] <ubotu> pc_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:21] <Housito> i think will be cool =P
[06:21] <alaQ> daedra: it was a situation for me, because I had to pass my college's overly-conservative firewall. :/
[06:21] <pc_> Comment les obtenir ???
[06:21] <nicholas76> Housito: yep
[06:21] <daedra> cyberphaz: could you walk me through that?
[06:22] <daedra> !fr > pc_
[06:22] <William7532> Does anyone have any experience editing their xorg.conf to get a widescreen monitor to work?
[06:22] <_wattazoum_> !fr | pc_
[06:22] <ubotu> pc_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:22] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> wow there is like no one in that channel
[06:22] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> lol
[06:22] <pyrokay> alaQ, what sort of firewall? is 443 forwarded?
[06:22] <Housito> and too another question, how to buy ubuntu stickers says "Powered by Ubuntu" my LoCo team haven't (Spain)
[06:22] <cyberphaz> no, but setup an ssh server and use the client to connect to 127.0.0.1 would work :P
[06:22] <nicholas76> Housito: It should be the Ubuntu symbol and it does something special in Ubuntu 7.10 :P
[06:22] <alaQ> pyrokay: we had 21-23, 80, 443, and 6000 open.  that was it.
[06:22] <daedra> cyberphaz: cheers
[06:22] <nitrocks> i'm having a weird issue.. for some reason the other day i stopped getting network access on my ubuntu box running feisty.  I am running a wired connection to my onboard ethernet port from a linksys wrt54g.  i took a look at ifconfig output and it only shows three interfaces lo, vmnet1, and vmnet8.  There is no eth0 present, which is odd because it used to be there.  does anyone have suggestions?
[06:22] <pc_> ubotu : merci  toi !
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about merci  toi ! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <pyrokay> lucky, i only got 443 with proxy forwarding, you should have no problems
[06:23] <_wattazoum_> pc, c'est un bot
[06:23] <Housito> hahahaha yes nicholas76
[06:23] <Housito> if open the apps menu be cool... or the console lol
[06:23] <_wattazoum_> pc_, ubotu est un bot
[06:23] <Housito> terminal* sorry
[06:23] <daedra> lulz
[06:23] <aelliott> Housito:  http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop/ has a few ubuntu stickers - not "powered by" though
[06:24] <zacdavis> i am making some powered by Ubuntu t-shirts
[06:24] <Housito> thx aelliott  so the problem is, i have 4 from my cd request
[06:24] <nicholas76> Housito: Let's rip out the windows key and stick in a special key with nothing on it, then put on an Ubuntu sticker on it lol
[06:24] <ViljasenMatti> I gotta go, see ya later
[06:24] <daedra> cyberphaz: so what would I type in terminal for ssh? ssh 127.0.0.1
[06:25] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> sheeesh not a soul,,, tff
[06:25] <Housito> and i want a sticks for put yn my new laptop
[06:25] <William7532> Anyone know how to edit an xorg.conf file to get wide screen resolutions working?
[06:25] <pyrokay> need to buy6 a mouse on a sunday, the suxx0rs
[06:25] <zacdavis> nicholas76: you could do that, I know how to make keys for desktop keyboards
[06:25] <Housito> nicholas76, LOL oh god, thats cool so... a bit bit dificult
[06:25] <pyrokay> William, what resolution? and ubuntu 7.04?
[06:25] <William7532> 1680x1050 and yes
[06:25] <genefitz> William are you using an Acer monitor?
[06:26] <William7532> no LG
[06:26] <aelliott> daedra: localhost, 127.0.0.1 or your hostname will all work fine
[06:26] <fishbuntu> in kubuntu, when i make a resolution change, it doesn't appear to take effect immediately.  it's a VM and i dont have vmtools installed yet but is there something i need to type to refresh the new settings?
[06:26] <Housito> what is the best desktop GNOME or KDE?
[06:26] <allquixotic> ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:27] <cyberphaz> xfce :P
[06:27] <Shoopuf> fishbuntu: get vmtools
[06:27] <Pici> Housito: its a matter of preference really.
[06:27] <cyberphaz> there is no best desktop it depends on what you prefer to use
[06:27] <aelliott> Housito: i vote Gnome
[06:27] <genefitz> I had the same problem with my acer al1916w (not getting 1440x900. There is a article about it in the ubuntu forum...
[06:27] <mind-shift> alaQ: Gpaint doesn't have the right feeling to it.
[06:27] <mind-shift> IndyGunFreak: Yeah, but I want a pure gnome desktop
[06:27] <allquixotic> Housito, that debate has been raging on for 5 or 6 years (maybe longer), but it's not an objective question
[06:27] <fishbuntu> i will but in ubuntu it doesnt require it to refresh resolutions.. was wondering if it was the same
[06:27] <William7532> the odd thing is that when I went into xorg.conf it had all the right resolutions in there, and had detected my monitor but the resolution selection gui still only has 4:3 options.
[06:27] <ormandj> not really ubuntu related, but perhaps someone here might know, is there a site where you can grab oggs/flacs of independant electronic music? ie - legal stuff
[06:27] <pyrokay> William7532, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and follow the instructions very, very carefully. if you have problems, ctrl + alt + f1 and sudo apt-get install irssi and come back here.
[06:27] <genefitz> It should work for any monitor, you just have to go to their site to get the correct H-Sync and V-sync.
[06:28] <Housito> allquixotic, i know this question is old and a bit stupid so somethimes its good know the opinion of anothers persons
[06:28] <zyth> ormandj, www.legaltorrents.com has some
[06:28] <allquixotic> http://www.ormandj have you tried AnywhereCd ?
[06:28] <ormandj> zyth: i'll go look there, thank you kindly
[06:28] <pyrokay> Housito, what's your favourite colour?
[06:28] <ormandj> allquixotic: never heard of it
[06:28] <genefitz> After that, it is just a sudo gedit xorg config command
[06:28] <allquixotic> oops
[06:28] <fishbuntu> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:28] <allquixotic> ormandj didn't mean to http your name lol
[06:28] <ormandj> it's ok :p
[06:28] <Housito> black or ble lol
[06:28] <wepeel> off-topic question, but I hope someone will answer. Is there a channel that I can ask a notebook-hardware question on?
[06:28] <pyrokay> kde it is ^_^
[06:28] <William7532> I ran dpkg-reconfigure last night again and it picked out the right resolutions but I still didn't get the options in the gui
[06:29] <Pici> wepeel: ##hardware perhaps
[06:29] <wepeel> PIci: thanks
[06:29] <allquixotic> ormandj AnywhereCD is the name of the site. try that or eMusic - both "independent" non-DRM music stores
[06:29] <pyrokay> you have to press space when you pick out the resolutions to star them, try that
[06:29] <ormandj> wepeel: there are tons of really great laptop forums out there, i had the same question the other day. i just searched google for laptop review, laptop forums, etc - found tons
[06:29] <igorgue> what's the effect that is alike expose in mac os?
[06:29] <William7532> what does the -phigh switch do?
[06:29] <wepeel> PIci: sorry, thanks!
[06:29] <ormandj> ok allquixotic, awesome, thanks :)
[06:29] <Pici> wepeel: no problem
[06:29] <xtknight> William7532, only shows high priority questions
[06:29] <Housito> i have to go, take care everybody nice chat
[06:29] <wepeel> ormandj: I've got a really specific one, this time :) I'm gonna try #hardware
[06:29] <pyrokay> William7532, i have no idea, but it specifies it in xorg.conf, at the top
[06:29] <daedra> aelliott: I get connection refused when I try ssh localhost
[06:30] <ormandj> wepeel: well, less audience on irc than on a forum, but best of luck to you! :)
[06:30] <pyrokay> daedra, did you enable ssh in ssh_d?
[06:30] <igorgue> what's the effect that is alike expose in mac os?
[06:30] <pyrokay> i don't understand the question
[06:30] <Injen> William7532: In your x.org under "monitor" section, do you have these lines in there: 	HorizSync	28-73
[06:30] <Injen> 	VertRefresh	43-60
[06:30] <William7532> ahh my xorg.conf file seems to be correct though it has the right resolutions its got the right vertical and horizontal sync
[06:30] <xtknight> !effects | igorgue
[06:30] <William7532> yes different values though
[06:30] <Injen> Ahh
[06:30] <ubotu> igorgue: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[06:30] <xtknight> igorgue, it's one of the features of beryl and compiz
[06:30] <aelliott> daedra are you sure ssh is running? do "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start"
[06:31] <wepeel> ormandj: that's true, I'm hoping to minimize time but might have to settle for minimized frustration
[06:31] <genefitz> William there should be a section for native resolution..
[06:31] <metalspy> exit
[06:31] <ormandj> wepeel: what's the question, btw?
[06:31] <igorgue> ok thanks
[06:31] <genefitz> I had to change the options in resolution and add the 1440x900
[06:31] <William7532> ok what does a native resolution section look like?
[06:31] <fishbuntu> is it possible to set Gaim to dock to the side of the desktop similar to AIM?
[06:31] <genefitz> it is under monitor, there are is a list of several resolutions available..
[06:32] <wepeel> ormandj: whether or not I can use PC2700 RAM instead of PC2100 in my laptop
[06:32] <mz--> hi.  attempting to do a reinstall, booted off the livecd, when double clicking the 'install' icon, i get the error "failed to exec new process: exec format error".  rebooted and tried again.  same problem.  any thoughts?  burn a new install disc?
[06:32] <William7532> I also saw some stuff about "MetaModes" or something like that in a forum post
[06:32] <ormandj> wepeel: bud, i can probably answer that for you, just msg me the model/etc and i'll find out for you
[06:32] <pyrokay> mz--, try verifying your disk at the ubuntu bootscreen
[06:32] <aelliott> mz--: the live CD has a "check disk for errors option" have you done it yet?
[06:32] <genefitz> add your native resolution to the list, and you should, directly under the monitor name see "native"
[06:32] <mz--> pyrokay: ok,
[06:32] <mz--> aelliott: ok def, thx
[06:32] <William7532> ok never seen resolution settings in Monitor before, what is the key? NativeResolution?
[06:32] <pyrokay> what aelliott said is the same thing btw ^_^
[06:33] <William7532> ok
[06:33] <mz--> pyrokay: yeah, but thanking people is important :] 
[06:33] <pyrokay> yeah, it's always nice. my mouse still doesn't work. might be a bios thing.
[06:33] <genefitz> should say nativeresolution also you have to add your resolution to the list of resolutions available.
[06:33] <Injen> William7532: You got your horizontal and vertical values from a ddcprobe right?
[06:34] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> YAY i got it fixed.. thanks for whoever gave me that #ubuntu-effects channel
[06:34] <daedra> aelliott: I get ..fail! when I try and start ssh via sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[06:34] <genefitz> Note: before you make any changes, make sure you do a backup of your xorg
[06:34] <William7532> the right resolutions are in the screen sections
[06:34] <pyrokay> daedra, you have to enable ssh and then turn it on
[06:34] <William7532> I got the syncs from the manual for my monitor
[06:34] <aelliott> daedra: ok thats not a problem, its allready running then
[06:34] <daedra> pyrokay: how?
[06:35] <aelliott> daedra: type "ps -aux | grep ssh" and tell us what you see
[06:35] <daedra> aelliott: no its not running, sudo killall ssh does nothing
[06:35] <aelliott> daedra: when the daemon is running it should be called sshd i think
[06:35] <mz--> ok, cpu is crashing during the defects check.  i'm going to go ahead and assume hte cd is hosed.
[06:35] <pyrokay> daedra, brb
[06:36] <Injen> William7532:make sure its the same as listed in a ddcprobe, that has solved the majority of my monitor ills.
[06:36] <William7532> ok I'll try that... the "Native" thing didn't work though
[06:36] <aelliott> mz--: i agree it sounds like it is - i think if you check the downloads page it tells you how to check that the ISO you downloaded is not corrupt using md5
[06:36] <daedra_> aelliott: I see this: root     11456  0.0  0.0   5088   952 ?        Ss   17:32   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[06:37] <mz--> aelliott: thing thats throwing me off base, is ive used this cd about a dozen times already for installs
[06:37] <mz--> aelliott: im just more concerned that its a hardware error than a disc error
[06:37] <aelliott> ok daedra_ that means it is running
[06:37] <daedra_> k
[06:37] <daedra_> well what do I do now to launch irssi in ssh
[06:38] <aelliott> daedra_:  try typing "hostname" to get your hostname, then do ssh followed by the hostname
[06:39] <Syntax_Error> hello, i have troubles with phpmyadmin, whatever user i try for login, it trys tu login using "www-data", what could be responsible for that?
[06:40] <Zhamz> my system won't boot after compiling latest kernel
[06:40] <Zhamz> hangs on the first ubuntu splash!
[06:40] <Zhamz> this is 5th compile with no luck
[06:40] <Zhamz> following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=master+kernel
[06:41] <daedra> aelliott: ok - some success but now I get "Error opening terminal: Unknown"
[06:41] <mind-shift> How do I install this program in ubuntu?   http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/mtPaint
[06:42] <damir> hi all , how can i play dvd on my laptop , what codecs do i need ?
[06:42] <Pici> mind-shift: sudo apt-get install mtpaint
[06:42] <aelliott> daedra, do you have another machine on the network that you can try logging in from? it might help troubleshoot this problem
[06:42] <Pici> mind-shift: its in the repos already :)
[06:42] <daedra> aelliott: yea
[06:42] <daedra> aelliott: how would I go about that
[06:43] <aelliott> daedra is it a windows machine?
[06:43] <daedra> aelliott: yep
[06:43] <daedra> aelliott: but I can run a live linux or whatever if need be
[06:43] <aelliott> daedra: ok you need to download putty from http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
[06:43] <mind-shift> Pici: I can't find it
[06:43] <mind-shift> Pici: It's not there
[06:43] <daedra> aelliott: ok
[06:43] <daedra> brb
[06:43] <William7532> ok so I just got back into my box but I don't seem to have ddcprobe, what package is it under for apt-get?
[06:43] <thebigham> How come my video quality is so crappy???
[06:44] <aelliott> daedra: its a windows ssh client, its very good - its also a single file so no need to install it, just download and run
[06:44] <Pici> mind-shift: er, sorry, its in Gutsy, not Feisty.
[06:44] <daedra_> test
[06:44] <defcon> gnome-network manager problem: Ok i have my wireless connection on wlan0 and for some reason the nm-applet does not connect me to the internet, I had to add wireless-key open <KEY> and then ifdown wlan0 then ifupwlan0 to connect, why doesnt nm-applet work? I have tried using anscii and hexidecimal keys and I select the right access point with no luck
[06:44] <mind-shift> how do I acces gutsy repos?
[06:44] <mind-shift> access
[06:45] <aelliott> daedra: you also need to use the ipaddress of your linux box as the target, find it by doing "ifconfig -a" on your linux box. It will show up under eth0 probably as the "inet addr"
[06:45] <damir> how can i plaY DVD ON UBUNTU 7.04 ?
[06:45] <aelliott> daedra: you type the ip of the linux box into the hostname box in putty, and it should connect you
[06:45] <Pici> !dvd > damir (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[06:47] <arpegius> i seem to have my wireless card connected to my wpa2 network. when i check out the ifconfig list, i see eth0 and ra0 and they both have dhcp-assigned address. however, when i disconnect the wired connection, i cannot ssh/smb/anything to ra0's assigned address. what could be going on here?
[06:47] <obf213> what command is like the alt tab in windows
[06:48] <arpegius> obf213: alt tab i thought....
[06:48] <obf213> no that is the same thing except instead of the windows on the pageit shows u desktops that way
[06:48] <obf213> so like switch throuhg different desktops, i was wondering if there was  a command that did that for the windows
[06:49] <arpegius> obf213: ah... dunno then. its been a while since i've been in the gui.
[06:49] <macuser> excuse me i have a question about ubuntu
[06:49] <daedra> aelliott: ok I've ssh'd into my linux box from windows
[06:49] <daedra> (putty)
[06:49] <daedra> aelliott: now what?
[06:49] <jussi01> DaRk: please dont do that....
[06:49] <DaRk> lol thats cewl
[06:49] <macuser> Can you run ubunto an a macintosh with the powerpc arcitecture?
[06:49] <aelliott> daedra: ok cool, so we know ssh is definately working
[06:50] <wahdff> DaRk
[06:50] <wahdff> ^^
[06:50] <wahdff> da DaRk
[06:50] <wahdff> xD
[06:50] <ninnghizidha> Hello! I'd like to tell gnome to stop resuming the last session ...
[06:50] <panfist> hello, can any anyone help me out with a new feisty installation, both the live cd and alternate installer CD begin booting, but then give me an error
[06:50] <aelliott> daedra: im just checking my sshd_config file to see if there is a setting to allow local login
[06:50] <daedra> aelliott: I just can't ssh from myself
[06:50] <wahdff> DA DARK
[06:50] <wahdff> hob i gsogt
[06:50] <daedra> hmm
[06:50] <wahdff> !!
[06:50] <DaRk> DA wahdff
[06:50] <aelliott> daedra: have you every changed the ssh configuration?
[06:50] <ninnghizidha> i already told the settings that, but it loads always the old session since then
[06:50] <wahdff> HUGA HAGA
[06:50] <aelliott> daedra: its strange, because i can ssh to myself fine
[06:51] <Pici> !ppc | macuser
[06:51] <ubotu> macuser: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[06:52] <aNh0> LautesOnlineLachen
[06:52] <aNh0> xD
[06:52] <aNh0> Schwuuchteln
[06:52] <macuser> can you run ubunto on a power pc based mac?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[06:52] <panfist> when i try to boot the ubuntu live CD, a little while after selecting "boot or install ubuntu" i get dumped to a terminal that says: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. (initramfs)"
[06:52] <wahdff> aNh0 mach des :P
[06:52] <Pici> !de
[06:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:52] <daedra__> test
[06:52] <Pici> macuser: read the link ubotu just gave you.
[06:53] <daedra> aelliott: nope never changed it
[06:53] <wahdff> ^
[06:53] <smurf3365> /ctcp #ubuntu version
[06:53] <smurf2769> /ctcp #ubuntu version
[06:53] <smurf7498> /ctcp #ubuntu version
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[06:53] <smurf6887> /ctcp #ubuntu version
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[06:53] <smurf5050> /ctcp #ubuntu version
[06:53] <macuser> i can't find the link
[06:54] <Pici> !ops
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[06:54] <Thursley> what a silly mistake smurf..
[06:54] <daedra> omg flud
[06:54] <Thursley> and a bad one to
[06:54] <aelliott> daedra: see what "ssh 0.0.0.0" does when you use it on the linux box
[06:54] <stuart-> anyone else have a Dsound error with Wine?
[06:54] <Pici> !traffic
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[06:54] <macuser> could somebody send that link again for the ubunto on a power pc mac
[06:54] <Pici> !ppc > macuser (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[06:54] <stuart-> i keep getting this dsound override error, which i think is slwoing down my games
[06:54] <daedra> aelliott: sure thing
[06:54] <Amaranth> !staff
[06:54] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[06:54] <pedro> hi, i had buy an external hard disk, when i connect the hard disk to the HD is mounted as read only. How can i change the rights ?
[06:55] <Pici> Amaranth: nalioth is already her
[06:55] <nalioth> macuser: join #ubuntu-powerpc or ##apple
[06:55] <nalioth> Amaranth: yes?
[06:55] <daedra> aelliott: it seems to hang with a cursor blink
[06:55] <aelliott> daedra leave it for about 20 seconds, hopefully it will ask you about a host key
[06:55] <pedro> how can i mount a usb with write mode rights ?
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> pedro: is the format on that hard drive ntfs
[06:55] <daedra> aelliott: wait no I can login - but same problem "Error opening terminal: Unknown"
[06:56] <pedro> daedra : i think so.
[06:56] <aelliott> daedra: are you doing this from a desktop terminal? or are you outside of gnome?
[06:57] <IntuitiveNipple> ok, weirdness! Suggestions for why Bluetooth mouse is suddenly not connecting, despite showing up on scan and will respond to a query (hcitool info) and hidd is running. Tried a reboot. It stopped bonding as I was using it. Tried replacing batteries.
[06:57] <William7532> where does the screen resolution gui come up with these numbers?
[06:57] <calidoso> hey everyone, I've been trying to get my wireless to work on my dual boot laptop but I can't seem to get it working with ubuntu... I've been reading the wiki and I've gone through the steps but I still don't get an IP address. I've put in the SSID and the WEP key, not sure what's wrong.. any ideas?
[06:57] <arpegius> pedro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1601636&postcount=7 looks helpful. take away the &postcount=7 from the URL to get the full thread
[06:57] <William7532> they don't seem to match anything in my xorg.conf file
[06:57] <arpegius> pedro: its all about external hds
[06:57] <Injen> William grep returned nothing?
[06:57] <warlocky> it seems like I cannot apt-get update anymore or apt-get install anything, I'm using ubuntu 5.4 breezy, anyone care to help?
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !wireless
[06:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:57] <pedro> arpegius : yes
[06:58] <William7532> I must have missed that message I haven't greped anything
[06:58] <Injen> ohh
[06:58] <warlocky> it seems like I cannot apt-get update anymore or apt-get install anything, I'm only getting errors -- I'm using ubuntu 5.04 breezy, anyone care to help?
[06:58] <daedra__> oh
[06:58] <William7532> what was I supposed to grep?
[06:58] <sivik> if i reinstall cpanel, does it mess up all the mail in the cpanel mailboxes
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[06:58] <daedra> aelliott: I am doing it outside gnome (terminal)
[06:58] <calidoso> ubotu: I'll take another look but that's what I've been reading....
[06:58] <William7532> ok I'll try that
[06:58] <sivik> warlocky: why 5.04?
[06:59] <calidoso> haha I'm chatting with the bot
[06:59] <obf213> is there a way to get ubuntu to stop creating copied hidden files everytime you delete something off your fat32partition
[06:59] <Injen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> warlocky: Have you EVER used the script automatix or envy.. both are bad ideas
[06:59] <warlocky> sivik: Don't bother asking, I just want to get it working right now, I'm gonna upgrade later - and is there a possibility to upgrade now though?
[06:59] <aelliott> daedra: control - alt and F1 - F7 switches your terminals, try doing "control-alt-f3" and ssh from there
[06:59] <Injen> explains it, but you should double check that before you mess with anything.
[06:59] <daedra> aelliott: ok..
[06:59] <Flannel> warlocky: You can't apt-get anything because the repos for 5.10 (which is breezy, hoary is 5.04) don't exist anymore.
[06:59] <aelliott> daedraits as if it wont let you ssh into your own terminal if that makes sense :)
[06:59] <sivik> warlocky: u have to go into the sources.list and change all the entries that say breezy to fiesty (or however you spell it) and then do an aptitude update and aptitude dist-upgrade (apt-get works as well)
[07:00] <arpegius> i seem to have my wireless card connected to my wpa2 network. when i check out the ifconfig list, i see eth0 and ra0 and they both have dhcp-assigned address. however, when i disconnect the wired connection, i cannot ssh/smb/anything to ra0's assigned address. what could be going on here?
[07:00] <Flannel> sivik, warlocky, NOOOOO.  You can't upgrade from breezy to feisty.  Only one at a time.
[07:00] <obf213> how can you get ubuntu to stop creating a hidden recycled folder when you delete something off of a partition??
[07:00] <younghacker> hello
[07:00] <warlocky> ok, stop confusing me :'(
[07:00] <GhostlySnow> when trying to install a driver in ndiswrapper it gives me an error saying Inappropriate ioctl for device-- How do i fix that
[07:00] <sivik> warlocky: at this point of time, i would be easier and fast to just use a cd to do it and start over
[07:00] <daedra> aelliott: same problem "Error opening terminal: Unknown"
[07:01] <Flannel> sivik, warlocky, you should simply upgrade to dapper.  Not reinstall.
[07:01] <warlocky> that's what I thought, guess I'm going debian etch then
[07:01] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, what kind of driver
[07:01] <warlocky> Flannel: well, dapper isnt working well with game-servers.
[07:01] <younghacker> as anyone familiar with installing the w32codecs into mplayer, I already have the codecs i am just looking for the folder in which to install them
[07:01] <sivik> flannel quit saying my name, ir eally don't care
[07:01] <sivik> younghacker, just use vlc
[07:01] <aelliott> daedra: im getting stumped now:) try doing "echo $TERM" and see if it comes back as 'xterm'
[07:01] <Flannel> sivik: You're giving bad information.  Please stop.
[07:01] <GhostlySnow> for a wireless card that is not supported
[07:01] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, what card?
[07:01] <genefitz> young, if you are using ubuntu (pre-gutsy) you should just use automatix..
[07:01] <younghacker> sivik: vlc? app?
[07:01] <Injen> nice ;)
[07:02] <sivik> younghacker, vlc is an app that has all of that stuff already installed on it and working
[07:02] <genefitz> It will help you install any extra codecs you may need
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow> genefitz: Bad idea
[07:02] <Flannel> genefitz: please don't recommend automatix here.  It's a bad idea.
[07:02] <sivik> just use vlc
[07:02] <younghacker> can i use both?
[07:02] <donald> anyone here using dual-head on ubuntu?
[07:02] <younghacker> ok
[07:02] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, what card?
[07:02] <daedra> aelliott: yep, I get xterm
[07:02] <genefitz> Sorry, didn't know it was a bad subject..
[07:02] <olliwoll1> is there a way to save the current state of packages installed, then install or remove packages and later restore the previous state with synaptic or dpkg. there is dpkg --set-selections, but it only works for installing new packages and not removing (--purging).
[07:02] <warlocky> Flannel: Mind joining a channel so we can chat for a sec? I'm geting confused by all the text in here
[07:02] <HEP85__> !automatix
[07:02] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:02] <Flannel> warlocky: sure, join #ubuntu-classroom
[07:03] <GhostlySnow> one minute
[07:03] <younghacker> wow
[07:03] <ormandj> why do i get random wxvlc processes running even after I've quit vlc? only happens sometimes - but the problem is - it disables my monitor going to sleep
[07:03] <younghacker> i'll do vlc
[07:03] <ormandj> it's quite irritating
[07:03] <aelliott> daedra: hmm, i don't understand it im afraid
[07:03] <aelliott> daedra: i cant see why it wont work
[07:03] <daedra__> aelliott: ok
[07:03] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, bcm43xx?
[07:04] <younghacker> is vlc command line or gui?
[07:04] <aelliott> daedra sorry mate
[07:04] <ormandj> younghacker: gui
[07:04] <bobgill> Hey I'm trying to install gparted, but I keep getting an error on the repo, I did apt-get update and I'm getting this: http://pastebin.ca/629733
[07:04] <sivik> vlc is gui
[07:04] <younghacker> cool, thanks
[07:04] <easytiger_home> whats the name of that ubuntu official laptop company.. i cant find the god damn site
[07:04] <GhostlySnow> broadcom Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card
[07:04] <ormandj> a cli video player - interesting. :p real-time *format* -> ascii conversion :p
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> GhostlySnow: That should be the bcm43xx chipset
[07:05] <ormandj> easytiger_home: I don't know which one you're referring to, but lenovo is always a good choice ;) (thinkpad series)
[07:05] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, its probably a bcm43xx of some sort, go into the bcm-users channel and talk to them about getting it to work without ndiswrapper
[07:05] <easytiger_home> ormandj: see the aalib plugin for zine
[07:05] <easytiger_home> xine
[07:05] <shonen> does the default ubuntu feisty kernel support ipsets?
[07:05] <elkbuntu> easytiger_home, there is no official ubuntu laptop company, however system76.com has ubuntu laptops
[07:05] <William7532> Ok injen I tried ddcprobe and it said the bottom horizontal was off but changing that didn't have any effect
[07:05] <younghacker> =o
[07:05] <ormandj> easytiger_home: I have :p
[07:05] <easytiger_home> elkbuntu: thats the one thanks
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> GhostlySnow: Easy to get going.. without ndiswrapper
[07:05] <GhostlySnow> yea but it dosnt work
[07:05] <sivik> bobjill: get rid of the ca in all the repo locations, that should fix it
[07:05] <William7532> I still only see 4:3 resolutions in the screen resolution preferences
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> GhostlySnow: WHat all have you tried so far?
[07:05] <GhostlySnow> the button on the labtop dosnt work
[07:05] <aelliott> daedra see if "export TERM=vt100" helps
[07:05] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, mine does with the bcm43xx firmware
[07:06] <GhostlySnow> hmmm
[07:06] <daedra__> aelliott: ok
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> GhostlySnow: fwcutter will get it going
[07:06] <sivik> Jack_Sparrow, the thing i can't get working is figuring out how to get wpa to work
[07:06] <GhostlySnow> well the button wont light up on mine
[07:06] <cdehaan> Hello! I am running Feisty, and when I plug in an HFS+ volume (external HD or iPod, both USB) I can read the contents but not write... #1) Is HFS+ write support included in the default Feisty kernels and #2) If so, how do I write to these?
[07:06] <sivik> cdehaan: how is the drive being mounted and if its ntfs, its not recommened to write to
[07:06] <GhostlySnow> when it does it still wont work
[07:06] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, who cares if the light is on or not as long as it bloody works
[07:07] <cdehaan> sivik: The drive is being mounted automatically... I can't recall offhand what Feisty uses to do that.
[07:07] <bullgard4> What is the diffeence between LVM and LVM2?
[07:07] <bullgard4> What is the difference between LVM and LVM2?
[07:07] <shonen> cdehaan: if you need stable ntfs write support, install ntfs-3g
[07:07] <cdehaan> sivik: If it's not well supported, though, I may just reformat the iPod as VFAT
[07:07] <sivik> cdehaan, what partition type is it
[07:07] <cdehaan> shonen: Not NTFS... HFS+.
[07:07] <francis> Jack_Sparrow:
[07:07] <cdehaan> sivik: HFS+
[07:07] <shonen> k
[07:07] <aelliott> daedra also you could try a quick "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart" and see if that makes a difference, im afraid i cannot replicate the problem on my box though, ssh to localhost is working fine here
[07:07] <Injen> William7532: I'm afraid thats my only educated recommendation, anything else will is.. guess.
[07:07] <sivik> i know nothing about trying to rewirte to hfs+, i hate ipods
[07:07] <francis> hey i have my wireless card working with ndiswrapper
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> francis: yes did you need something, I didnt see a question
[07:07] <sharaf> could somebody help me with usb 2.0 installation
[07:08] <panfist> can anyone help me out, apparently i've run into a kernel bug in 2.6.20-15, and i can't boot using either the live CD or alternate CD.
[07:08] <cdehaan> sivik: I'm sorry you hate HFS+... I am, however, a mac user, and so my love for HFS+ is, of course, unending :)
[07:08] <francis> thanks a lot for all the help the other day
[07:08] <sivik> not sure, can't help u with that one
[07:08] <sivik> !nfs
[07:08] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:08] <ormandj> cdehaan: as a mac user, your love for HFS+ should have ended a long time ago when you realized it was an unstable POS filesystem
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> francis: Not a problem.. glad it is working
[07:08] <cdehaan> sivik: THanks for your time :)
[07:08] <ormandj> cdehaan: this coming from an ex apple employee
[07:08] <sharaf> hi
[07:08] <daedra> aelliott: ok
[07:08] <sivik> cdehaan, sorry i can't help u more
[07:08] <hydrosol> ormandj,  lol :)
[07:08] <sharaf> how do i install USB 2.0 drivers
[07:08] <cdehaan> ormandj: I was being sarcastic, but I've actually never had an issue with HFS+... what do you recommend instead?
[07:08] <sharaf> ????
[07:08] <francis> Any here using the hp tx 1000 series laptop
[07:08] <davf> I'm getting a PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA error installing winxp in Qemu in Ubuntu
[07:09] <francis> Jack_Sparrow: dude you RoCk
[07:09] <cdehaan> ormandj: What OS X calls UFS?
[07:09] <ormandj> cdehaan: for what purpose? if you're going to run OSX, HFS+ is really the only game in town for your system
[07:09] <davf> sorry, running windows xp in Qemu. Works without kqemu
[07:09] <ormandj> but any kind of storage, use something else
[07:09] <Jack_Sparrow> francis: Thanks, I occasionally get one right
[07:09] <ormandj> XFS, JFS - doesn't matter - just NOT HFS+! :p
[07:09] <ormandj> ZFS should be in 10.5 and that's a good route to go
[07:09] <obf213> anyone know how to turn of that like auto fill word thing in OO writer
[07:10] <cdehaan> ormandj: Right, my MacBook runs HFS+... I thought there was an option to use UFS instead, though I could be lying, on my main volume
[07:10] <Injen> Haha http://www.oreilly.com/pub/h/1963 uses freenode on its irc over telnet example. :)
[07:10] <ormandj> cdehaan: there is, but it sucks. don't even waste your time trying UFS on an osx system, stuff starts randomly breaking
[07:10] <iAlice> Hi everyone! Since today I can't start any programs that use OpenGL: Error-Message: "Xfree86-DRI missing!"... Maybe some updates are to blame. Is there any history of the last updates made in ubuntu?
[07:10] <daedra> aelliott: hey I did do a ssh-keygen a while back
[07:10] <cdehaan> ormandj: OK, so HFS+ until 10.5 and then use ZFS?
[07:10] <ormandj> iAlice: open your /etc/x11/xorg.conf file and look through it to see if DRI is enabled or not
[07:10] <daedra> aelliott: do you think that would affect logging in?
[07:11] <ormandj> cdehaan: nope, 10.5 will only let you use ZFS on non-boot drives. you're stuck with HFS+ for a while yet ;)
[07:11] <daedra> aelliott: the thing is I can putty ssh in from windows just fine
[07:11] <aelliott> daedra i wouldnt have thought so, because you can ssh in from windows ok
[07:11] <daedra__> damn
[07:11] <iAlice> Section "DRI" \n Mode 0666 \n EndSection
[07:12] <cdehaan> ormandj: Ah. Do you know of any articles explaining why HFS+ sucks? I'll admit I've never looked into it, but that's mostly because I"ve never had (Or never pinpointed it as the culprit) issues with HFS+
[07:12] <sharaf> hi iAlice
[07:12] <ormandj> cdehaan: i use macs for my hobby (music production/composition) and i've had nothing but trouble with HFS+, random filesystem screwups being the #1 issue. Disk Warrior helps, but it's still a PITA. Then again, I've known many people who never had an issue.
[07:12] <GMWeezel> The volume switches on my keyboard change the wrong sound card volume; fix tips?
[07:12] <iAlice> and Section "Module" ... Load "dri" ...
[07:12] <PhoenixGI> Is there a channel that is more geared for the new Ubuntu user?
[07:12] <cdehaan> ormandj: I could see usage being a difference -- admittedly most of my computer usage, at least on my Mac laptop, is pretty basic.
[07:12] <sharaf> hi GMWeezel, could u possibly help me with usb2.0 installation
[07:12] <pedro> how can i know the info of my hard drive?. I mean the filesystem, the mount point, the partition ...
[07:12] <ormandj> cdehaan: my "HFS+ sucks" argument is based on my past experience with HFS+ filesystem corruption, both on personal machines and also with the multitude of failed computer apple recieved back while I was working for them
[07:13] <ormandj> if you check wikipedia about HFS+ you'll probably get all the information you could ever want
[07:13] <GMWeezel> sharaf: a PCI usb card?
[07:13] <Enselic> pedro: df -h     for example    also try     sudo fdisk -f
[07:13] <Enselic> pedro: sudo fdisk -l         i mean
[07:13] <BenLinkr> HFS+ isn't that bad if you immediatally throw out the rubbish format job at the factory.
[07:14] <sharaf> i've no extra card, it's built in with ma motherboard intel 865gm
[07:14] <ormandj> cdehaan: basically, what i'm trying to impress upon you is that you should make sure you have a good backup policy in place, because you really can't rely on that filesystem to maintain integrity, hardware issues aside
[07:14] <larsemil> i get errormsg telling me that something is using my soundcard.. but nothing is
[07:14] <cdehaan> ormandj: I do regular backups, so I should be pretty safe.
[07:14] <ormandj> cdehaan: now, truly, you should have a good backup policy regardless (especially on a laptop) ;)
[07:14] <panfist> can anyone please help me figure out how to install feisty...both the live and alternate install CDs start booting, then fail. apparently this is some kind of kernel bug introduced with the new kernel in feisty?
[07:14] <cdehaan> ormandj: And this macbook has been in... 5 times in the past year, yes... so I am already on that track.
[07:14] <vinay> on a laptop, is there a way to switch from internal to external display without restarting X ? ..
[07:14] <ormandj> cdehaan: yeah, the only pain is doing the reinstall, but it's not much more than 10-15 minutes of your life for the OS and then another 30 for software :p
[07:14] <sharaf> GMWeezel:i've no extra card, it's built in with ma motherboard intel 865gm
[07:14] <oellinux> hi
[07:15] <pedro> My HD its 400GB NFTS. Can i format to FAT32 ?
[07:15] <BenLinkr> vinay: What kind of card is it?
[07:15] <cdehaan> ormandj: Of course if I have any luck at all my persuasive argument with the Apple Store manager should mean a replacement this week.
[07:15] <ormandj> vinay: depends on card afaik
[07:15] <larsemil> vinay, for me i push fn + f4
[07:15] <GMWeezel> sharaf: if it's built into the motherboard what's the problem? Linux doesnt recognize it?
[07:15] <ormandj> cdehaan: actually, after 3 times in the shop with the same issue, the company policy is to replace
[07:15] <jcku393> hey guys, is there a channel where people just talk about hardwear issues, i have a question about RAM.
[07:15] <ormandj> if it's been in 5 times for the same issue
[07:15] <ormandj> they're fucking you in the ass
[07:15] <PriceChild> !ohmy | ormandj
[07:15] <ubotu> ormandj: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:15] <sharaf> GMWeezel:Right now, copying from flash drives is a big pain, it takes like 10 mins for a small file
[07:16] <cdehaan> ormandj: Yup, and I pointed that out. Lots of issues have been intermittent or showed up after repair, so this is pretty much the final straw for me.
[07:16] <ormandj> they're shagging you in the chute? :p
[07:16] <BenLinkr> vinay: I do it by my driver settings, with an ATI card.
[07:16] <oellinux> i have non-vital problem. i want to know if it is possible to assign to different softwares/plugins the playback of audio/video streaming in mozilla firefox
[07:16] <sharaf> GMWeezel: So i figured it's still running on USB 1.1 or something
[07:16] <vinay> ormandj, larsemil: I have a button on the keyboard to do this, but how does X have to be configured to understand that the button was pressed and displays should be shifted around?.. note i have an nvidia chipset with proprietory drivers
[07:16] <ormandj> cdehaan: sounds like you've just gotten a crappy apple store/manager. call up apple and talk to them, they'll have all your ticket info, and should be able to issue you a new machine
[07:16] <GMWeezel> sharaf: sounds like it could just be the flash drive not supporting USB 2.0. have you tried it on windows?
[07:16] <sharaf> GMWeezel: n no linux hasn't recognized USB2.0 till now
[07:16] <William7532> damn, so now I installed the "intel" driver instead of the i810 and I can't even get into gnome now
[07:16] <cdehaan> ormandj: and it's been ridiculous things like my backlight flickering for no reason, my entire case's paint chipping off (when the black one seemed like a good idea to me I have no idea), battery life of ~1 hour, etc.
[07:16] <sharaf> yup, it worked quite fine
[07:16] <vinay> BenLinkr: ya i saw instructions on doing this with aticonfig ... trying to find something that would do it with nvidia !
[07:16] <cdehaan> ormandj: I was always dealing with a different store -- we finally have another one closer to me (only an hour away now) so I went there this time
[07:17] <sharaf> GMWeezel: yup, it worked quite fine on windows
[07:17] <GMWeezel> sharaf: in that case im not sure; my flash drive works at a good speed and much faster than on windows so not sure how to help you; sorry
[07:17] <BenLinkr> vinay: Drats, I use ATI cards all over the place... try looking up "twinview how to" on the ubuntu forums.
[07:17] <William7532> I got to go now anyway, thanks for all the help I'll probably be back in a while
[07:17] <sharaf> GMWeezel: oh k, no probs, anyways, thanx for ur time
[07:17] <ormandj> cdehaan: ahh, good, maybe you'll have better luck with this one. my email is ormandj@gmail.com, you should shoot me a line if you still have problems, i still know plenty of people @ apple corp.
[07:17] <BenLinkr> I think twinview is the Nvidia one.
[07:17] <Maoserr> Hello, Does anyone know of an introduction to scripting for Ubuntu?
[07:17] <cdehaan> ormandj: I'll keep that in mind, thanks much!
[07:17] <ormandj> maoserr: what kind of "scripting" would you like to do?
[07:17] <Maoserr> I'm just looking for something simple, that lets me execute two programs in succession
[07:18] <Dhraakellian> where the feisty is libdvdcss?
[07:18] <ormandj> so probably a bash shell script
[07:18] <Maoserr> yea
[07:18] <Dhraakellian> I have multiverse and universe enabled
[07:18] <pedro> How can i changed my HD Format ?
[07:18] <larsemil> vinay, for me it just happends. never configured anyything. but then on the other hand i get the same resolution on the external as the internal
[07:18] <tehtechman> Maoserr: two progs in sucession...  "prog1 && prog2"
[07:18] <Maoserr> ok, thanks for the tip
[07:18] <Dhraakellian> https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#video-dvd says to install libdvdcss2, but I can't find it with Synaptic or apt-cache search
[07:18] <BenLinkr> Dhraakellian: I really don't think those are in many of the popular repos. Maybe media-ubuntu has them?
[07:18] <ormandj> maoserr: just search for "bash shell script tutorial" on google.com and you should find what you need, but another way to do it, is just put the commands on the CLI like this: "ps aux; df -h", which would execute ps aux, then after it finished, df -h
[07:19] <Dhraakellian> BenLinkr: then why would the official docs say that it's in Universe or Multiverse?
[07:19] <pedro> gparted, dont found my external HD? How can i change the file system HD ?
[07:19] <narfy> I'm try to make dapper print with cups for the lan. I have it working for local printing. To make it work for the lan, do I just at ipp://hostname:631 (hostname replace by my hostname)?
[07:19] <dfgas> how do i set the default card again with alsactl?
[07:19] <vinay> larsemil: alrigfht, i'll have to play around with this some more... thanks :-)
[07:20] <ormandj> narfy: you might want to read the cups docs and realize ubuntu's version at least back when i messed with it in 6.10) was pretty jacked up (no web iface/etc) so setting up a print server might be "fun"
[07:20] <ormandj> an easier (and cheaper, if you find time == money) way would be just to pick up a print server for your printer
[07:20] <cdehaan> ormandj: Should I be concerned about ext3?
[07:20] <ormandj> or get a network printer
[07:21] <triden1> ormandj: Really? My cups setup was fine in 6.10.
[07:21] <ormandj> cdehaan: nope, ext3 isn't the fastest of all FSs, but it's decent
[07:21] <cdehaan> ormandj: OK, just making sure I shouldn't start worrying about that too, haha
[07:21] <ormandj> triden1: well, i was dealing with about 17 different printers, and printing over the network, and i had a relatively negative experience getting it to "work". once I mucked with it and got the web iface up, it was simple as pie, but the gnome control panel stuff didn't cut it
[07:22] <ormandj> cdehaan: hehe, no. best policy is always to keep backups, but ext3 seems much more stable than hfs+.
[07:22] <triden1> ormandj: Heh, that's 15 more than I needed.
[07:22] <narfy> ormandj: ok, which ubuntu version has printing for the lan via cups as a no brainer, if any?
[07:22] <hammedhaaret> Hi.   how do i uninstall a limewire install that doesn't work?
[07:22] <triden1> narfy: I think all of them do... enable sharing.
[07:22] <ormandj> narfy: well, it depends on what you're talking about - are you talking about a locally connected printer on one machine being shared? or a network printer?
[07:23] <triden1> hammedhaaret: How'd you install it?
[07:23] <narfy> ormandj: locally connected printer on one machine being shared. lpd style.
[07:23] <ormandj> for a simple setup, as triden1 mentioned, it should be doable with any recent revision of ubuntu
[07:23] <tehtechman> hammedhaaret: apt-get remove if you used the pack manager
[07:23] <ormandj> narfy: i've never tried to share out a local printer, hopefully somebody else can help you with that, i've always just worked with network printers
[07:24] <hammedhaaret> triden1 & tehtechman: uuuhmm.... didn't use the manager. think i did it with a .bin file or somethin
[07:24] <triden1> hammedhaaret: A script?
[07:25] <tehtechman> hammedhaaret: did it ask u for a root pw?
[07:25] <triden1> Well, it's not a package officially, so apt-get remove won't do it
[07:25] <narfy> ormandj: sigh. I chose dapper 'cos it was supposed to have fixes etc support until 2009. I guess network printing via sharing a local normal printer isn't something a normal desktop user really does.
[07:25] <tehtechman> triden1: didnt know that... i dont use ubun
[07:25] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: where is it installed at?
[07:25] <Guilty_as_Sin> I have an acer aspire 5100 that hangs on every live cd I have thrown at it so I decided to overwrite the entire hard drive using DBAN..  and I get half way through the overwrite and it just powers down.  Anyone know where I should begin this google adventure?
[07:25] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: ie: to run limewire, what did you click - where was it?
[07:25] <triden1> narfy: I did... let me go get that guide I used.
[07:26] <triden1> narfy: Windows -> Ubuntu, Ubuntu -> Ubuntu, or the grabbag?
[07:26] <ormandj> narfy: for a desktop pc, you should probably stick with the latest current release of ubuntu (feisty fawn/7.04 at this time). LTS (6.06/dapper) was more for enterprise workstation/servers where longevity of a platform is important - it also means having old stuff/lacking functionality.
[07:27] <hammedhaaret> don't really know.... how do I find out?  im quite new to linux as you probably figured out
[07:27] <ormandj> Guilty_as_Sin: toss it out the window
[07:27] <narfy> triden1: cool. just point me to where I can read it. linuxes -> ubuntu dapper printserving
[07:27] <Guilty_as_Sin> lol..  felt like it a few times
[07:27] <GOD> !fishsticks
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fishsticks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <ImmortalEVENT> Hey guys Im having some sudo problems .. can I get some help?
[07:27] <ormandj> Guilty_as_Sin: if the laptop is shutting down with DBAN running it's probably heat related
[07:27] <hammedhaaret> ormandj: its in the menu, under internet
[07:27] <ormandj> maybe a dead fan or something
[07:27] <triden1> narfy: That's easy, especially if you are using gnome on all of them.
[07:27] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: right click and select properties
[07:27] <mcantor> Hey guys.  I just fresh-installed Kubuntu and for some reason, when I type :help in vim, it says "No tags file" "Sorry, no help for help.txt".  Whawt gives?
[07:27] <ormandj> and it should tell you where the icon points to
[07:28] <basvg> hey all ... just installed emacs metapackage on Feisty. When I start it all I get is a new window with a lot of squares instead of nicely formatted text... any clues on what's going wrong?
[07:28] <GOD> !the murder
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about the murder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <Guilty_as_Sin> I think you may be right
[07:28] <PriceChild> GOD, please don't abuse the bot
[07:28] <Guilty_as_Sin> side fan is not kicking out anything
[07:28] <ormandj> mcantor: sudo apt-get install vim-full
[07:28] <joe_> hi all
[07:28] <ImmortalEVENT> .. hey
[07:28] <jeff_> Anyone here use xfce instead of gnome? i have some questions about setting up my menus.
[07:28] <GOD> sorry, just funny, he does not do this in message
[07:28] <easytiger_home> this dell TrueLife display thing. does that just mean glossy screen?
[07:28] <hammedhaaret> ormandj: at what? the icon? its just a command.... "limewire" it says
[07:28] <PriceChild> jeff_, #xubuntu maybe?
[07:28] <easytiger_home> causei hate glossy screen
[07:29] <genefitz> With laptops, I know this one, after so long one of my 2 cpu fans went out.. If I don't keep the notebook elevated, where there is plenty of room for air to get to my remaining cpu fan, the heat shuts it down..
[07:29] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: whatever, the button you click to start it, right click on it this time and choose properties
[07:29] <ImmortalEVENT> I'm Having some mode problems on sudo  and permissions I need to revert in order to do any thing any help ??
[07:29] <narfy> ormandj: no, icewm on the rest (debian lightweight). But they were using cups before. Just the printserver (also debian originallY) died and so I thought I'd give ubuntu a go.
[07:29] <genefitz> I have ordered another fan, and let me tell ya, they ain't cheap
[07:29] <GOD> but i think he is lying, i think he knows something about the murder
[07:29] <ormandj> genefitz: nor are laptops fun to take apart/put back together
[07:29] <hammedhaaret> ormandj: ive done that.... it's just a command. no path....
[07:29] <triden1> narfy: On computer with printer, Adminstration -> Printers, -> Global Settings -> Share printers.
[07:29] <triden1> narfy: On others, Global Settings -> Detect Lan shares.
[07:29] <triden1> /connect
[07:29] <ImmortalEVENT> ????
[07:29] <genefitz> ormandj, you ain't joking
[07:30] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: ok, open a terminal, and type "which limewire"
[07:30] <ormandj> basvg: you're going to the bad place
[07:30] <mcantor> ormandj: Is there a KDE equivalent of that, or will KDE just play nice with vim-full?
[07:30] <Guilty_as_Sin> ok, temporary fix in place..  (laptop in freezer)
[07:30] <hammedhaaret> ormandj: ok... /usr/bin/
[07:30] <dr_willis> mcantor,  it works well for me
[07:30] <Guilty_as_Sin> lmao
[07:30] <basvg> ormandj: 'xcuse me?
[07:30] <ImmortalEVENT> lol
[07:30] <mcantor> dr_willis: Jolly good.
[07:31] <basvg> ormandj: the package seems seriously borked so.. time to move on and try if handcompiling works
[07:31] <ormandj> mcantor: there are no vim UIs not written in gtk. you don't need vim-full, i installed it and never use the GUI version
[07:31] <ImmortalEVENT> I guess ill wait
[07:31] <ormandj> basvg: it's EMACS dude - of course it doesn't work
[07:31] <Dhraakellian> mcantor: there's a kvim, but I don't know if Ubuntu has it.  GVim with gtk-qt is quite satisfactory for me
[07:31] <genefitz> Note,  laptop will also overheat if it is set in a place where air can't get to the fans at all, like on the carpet, on a cloth desk cover, and such..
[07:31] <triden1> Gosh I hate flakey wireless.
[07:31] <dr_willis> !find kvim
[07:31] <mcantor> ormandj: You mean, there are no Vim UIs written in Qt?
[07:31] <narfy> triden1: I'm on dapper. That menu sequence isn't there for local printers.A
[07:31] <ubotu> Package/file kvim does not exist in feisty
[07:31] <basvg> ormandj: not here to start a holy war... vim-user myself but others on this box need emacs
[07:31] <manitou_> hi is it any howto to install ubuntu on amd64 (x2) with flash , java , etc. ?
[07:31] <Guilty_as_Sin> I'm at my desk..
[07:31] <triden1> narfy: Really? Then it's time to go edit cubs.conf.
[07:31] <ormandj> basvg: i was only making a joke, you just didn't seem to get it so i was explaining :p
[07:32] <mcantor> Dhraakellian: Well, I only ever use it on the command line anyway, really
[07:32] <basvg> ormandj: :-)
[07:32] <tazz_> need help with download to update fiefox is a gz filebut cant it working
[07:32] <ormandj> basvg: i could care less what OS (editor in vim's case) people use :p
[07:32] <Dhraakellian> mcantor: yes, there is a Vim with Qt/KDE gui
[07:32] <dr_willis> manitou_,  note that you proberly do NOT NOT NOT. want to use the '64bit' version of Ubuntu. stick with the 32bit version.
[07:32] <triden1> narfy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu?highlight=%28NEtworkPrinting%29
[07:32] <Flannel> !flash64 | manitou_
[07:32] <ubotu> manitou_: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:32] <Guilty_as_Sin> I think I may have damaged the hard drive..  but the heat scenario plays out
[07:32] <hammedhaaret> ormandj: ok... its in /usr/bin/
[07:32] <ormandj> yuck, well, UIs on vim in general suck :p
[07:32] <genefitz> check at the bottom and the side of the notebook for heat, check to see if the fans are running, check if the heat is blowing out the side or the back..
[07:32] <mcantor> Dhraakellian: But it's not in the Ubuntu repos?
[07:32] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: that's bad. it means that .bin you ran installed crap all in your system's base install
[07:32] <Dhraakellian> mcantor: you could look
[07:32] <ormandj> see if there is an uninstaller build into that .bin
[07:32] <Dhraakellian> but I doubt it's there for some reason
[07:33] <Dhraakellian> mcantor: speaking as a dyed-in-the-wool KDE user, GVim is fine
[07:33] <Guilty_as_Sin> I used the alternate cd to install kubuntu a month back and edited raid.. think I may poked around where I did not belong
[07:33] <mcantor> Dhraakellian: Doesn't seem like it's there.  (apt-cache search vim qt brings up nothing, really)
[07:33] <Dhraakellian> mcantor: kvim
[07:33] <mcantor> Dhraakellian: Yeah, I'v ebeen using it for a while, it's just that I reinstalled yesterday and forgot how I set everything up
[07:33] <Dhraakellian> search for that
[07:33] <mcantor> Dhraakellian: nope
[07:33] <ormandj> mcantor: really, why?? :)
[07:33] <ormandj> UIs in vim suck
[07:33] <Guilty_as_Sin> no wait that was on the desktop because I wanted to make two drives one continuous space..  I remember now
[07:33] <mcantor> ormandj: Why what?
[07:34] <Dhraakellian> oh, and if you manage to get it installed, make sure you have it set to use a monospaced font
[07:34] <Guilty_as_Sin> nm..  must be the heat issue
[07:34] <hammedhaaret> ormandj: :C    crap..... the program really sucks...    where could i find the uninstaller if its in the .bin?    just run the .bin again?
[07:34] <mcantor> ormandj: BTW, installing vim-full worked like a dream.
[07:34] <ormandj> mcantor: they are pointless, they just slow the workflow down
[07:34] <mcantor> Dhraakellian: Of course!  Using Vim with anything but a monospace font would be anathema.
[07:34] <Dhraakellian> proportional fonts in KVim are... interesting
[07:34] <ormandj> if you get good with vim, you should never be using a mouse or even the arrow keys (unless you remapped them to macros)
[07:34] <ImmortalEVENT> I don't want to keep typing this.. but i dont know what else to do..  Um..  Im having some sudo  mode problems where I get this message "sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0460, should be 0440" , I can't do a init=/bin/bash in kernal , and when I go into recovery mode and try to do a chmod 440 /etc/sudoers it says I do not have the right permissions.   GAh.. plz help plz plz plz
[07:34] <Dhraakellian> mcantor: read: the window very quickly resizes down to about 10-20px wide
[07:34] <genefitz> Guilty, usually when a notebook just shuts itself off, it is either a heat or a power issue
[07:34] <Dhraakellian> don't ask me why.  it just does
[07:34] <tazz_> i have a p4
[07:34] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: read the documentation (should be a README or something) - if that fails, try running the bin with --help after it
[07:35] <mcantor> ormandj: I've been using Vim for 5 years, dude.  Trust me, I know
[07:35] <mcantor> ormandj: I just wanted the help files
[07:35] <Dhraakellian> heh... and I've known this one to shut off due to heat issues when the bottom is barely warmalmost coolto the touch
[07:35] <mcantor> ormandj: I'm not entirely sure how I got sidetracked into the GUI discussion
[07:35] <ormandj> mcantor: so avoid those nasty UIs! :p yeah. i had the same issue, that's why i suggested vim-full. it does the gnome UI crap but just don't use it
[07:35] <Dhraakellian> on bootup, that is
[07:35] <genefitz> I run a desklet that keeps track of my cpu use and heat...
[07:35] <chattr> hi
[07:35] <defcon_> where can I find what I can remove from /etc/init.d because somehow something is getting ran and killing my wifi
[07:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> well the thing is, when it has an OS.. whether it be ubuntu, kubuntu, windows, etc.  it runs great..
[07:35] <ormandj> mcantor: i wish there was a vim-full-nogui package ;)
[07:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> it's only during live cd's and installation
[07:35] <narfy> triden1: aha. got it, thanks. The problem was the client configs need fixing to conform to the ubuntu ipp address. Thanks ormandj triden1
[07:36] <ormandj> narfy: awesome, glad you got it working!
[07:36] <mcantor> ormandj: That would be pretty awesome
[07:36] <Guilty_as_Sin> oh and DBAN and Webroot
[07:36] <chattr> is there a possibility to create flash animations like mms flash ?
[07:36] <ImmortalEVENT> ?
[07:37] <genefitz> Guilty, here's an idea, try re-installing it's original OS, and see what happens.. If it loads, then you can re-try Ubuntu. When you re-install the native OS, it usually does a complete computer re-set. Kicks it back to how it should hae been from the factory
[07:37] <ormandj> mcantor: looks like "sudo apt-get install vim vim-common" might do the trick minus the GUI stuff
[07:37] <chattr> is there a possibility to create flash animations like mms flash ?
[07:37] <mimik> is there a program i can use to fool a site into believing my ip is from the us or canada?
[07:37] <mcantor> ormandj: hmmm, well, I already have vim-full
[07:37] <ormandj> mimik: you'd need an anonymizer or something like that
[07:37] <dr_willis> mimik,  try that 'tor' router proxy project. :) it ramdamizes things
[07:37] <mimik> thanks ill look it up
[07:37] <triden1> chattr: Flash is usually done in director, see macromed... no, adobe now.
[07:38] <ormandj> mcantor: yeah, same here, just saying if you really want to get rid of vim-full and the gui related packages, you could go that route. personally, i'd just leave it as is :p
[07:38] <Traveler7> mimik i'll send your IP to RIAA
[07:38] <ormandj> tor sucks, slow as poop
[07:38] <Guilty_as_Sin> well I have tried that, and it went great..  but I tried booting Sabayon live..  no gui..   tried booting ubuntu studio..  powers down..  tried installing kubuntu (alternate cd) in text mode.. and can't retrieve software packaging
[07:38] <manitou_> strange my realplayer crashes somethimes ? (when watching video)
[07:38] <chattr> triden1,  so is there something like this for ubuntu? i dont want to use windose...
[07:38] <Guilty_as_Sin> return back to windows, runs great..
[07:39] <basvg> hmff, emacs even dumps core... weird
[07:39] <genefitz> Guilty, I have an idea. What processor does your notebook have?
[07:39] <ormandj> sounds like other problems basvg
[07:39] <Traveler7> Guilty_as_Sin you have foulty cd recorder
[07:39] <ormandj> run gdb on emacs
[07:39] <ormandj> and see what's going on
[07:39] <triden1> chattr: I'd haven't heard of flash creation on ubuntu recently, flash is owned by Adobe...
[07:39] <Guilty_as_Sin> I have had a few distros on it before and running great..  this seems to be the "issue of the week" for me
[07:39] <ormandj> do a stack trace, that should give you an idea
[07:39] <Guilty_as_Sin> now that is a possibilty as well
[07:39] <chattr> triden1,  also no possibilty then :/
[07:39] <Guilty_as_Sin> I have had a trouble out of this pioneer
[07:39] <triden1> Actually, chattr, hold on.
[07:40] <Guilty_as_Sin> you know you can't even get firmware for it?
[07:40] <Traveler7> Guilty_as_Sin try reflashing firmware
[07:40] <genefitz> guilty, are you running an amd 64 bit processor?
[07:40] <Guilty_as_Sin> pioneer only supports the k16... not the k16rs..
[07:40] <triden1> chattr: It's a lucky day, I think some projects are tackling that problem.
[07:40] <dfgas> how do i set my default sound card in alsa?
[07:40] <triden1> chattr: http://linuxappfinder.com/development/flash
[07:41] <Guilty_as_Sin> and acer does not have firmware for it either
[07:41] <triden1> dfgas: volume-control?
[07:41] <chattr> triden1,  hui thanks
[07:41] <dfgas> no its done with the alsactl just don't remember how
[07:41] <Guilty_as_Sin> so if neither the manufacturer(pioneer) nor the pc assembler (acer) have the firmware..  where would I gert it?
[07:41] <Guilty_as_Sin> get*
[07:42] <Guilty_as_Sin> I have been in circles over this
[07:42] <stuart_> hmm.. amsn does seem to take up a lot of resources, doesn't it
[07:42] <triden1> stuart_: Java does that.
[07:43] <Guilty_as_Sin> I called pioneer and they have no idea.. the guy on the phone said contact acer and acer says contact pioneer
[07:43] <larson999> triden1, kick that keyring while you're at it
[07:43] <ImmortalEVENT> Um..  Im having some sudo  mode problems where I get this message "sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0460, should be 0440" , I can't do a init=/bin/bash in kernal , and when I go into recovery mode and try to do a chmod 440 /etc/sudoers it says I do not have the right permissions.   GAh.. plz help
[07:43] <Vai_Ro> can any one help me install g15 tools for fiesty?
[07:43] <Guilty_as_Sin> moral of the story, don't buyt an acer
[07:43] <stuart_> triden1, happen to know any alternatives that still have proper msn support?
[07:43] <dfgas> hmmm maybe asound
[07:43] <ladydoor> stuart_: bitlbee does, I believe, if you like IRC
[07:43] <dfgas> bah i don't remember now
[07:44] <ormandj> hey folks, what network laser printer are most of you happy with using? i need to get a new one for my house, this HP is turning out to be a POS
[07:44] <larson999> Guilty_as_Sin, conference them both in.  that sometimes makes for funny conversations.  doesn't usually help the situation though.
[07:44] <genefitz> guilty, don't you love that? The pioneer people will say "call Acer" the acer people will say "call pioneer"
[07:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> lol.. your right
[07:44] <triden1> stuart_: Unless you truely care for webcam support and the ocassional... custom emotion, Gaim/Pidgin works.
[07:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> that would be great
[07:44] <genefitz> anything to keep from actually having to perform customer service...lol
[07:44] <stuart_> ladydoor, will try, thanks.
[07:44] <stuart_> triden1, Gaim has file send/receive, right?
[07:45] <ImmortalEVENT> yup
[07:45] <ladydoor> stuart_: You might also like Gaim/Pidgen.
[07:45] <ImmortalEVENT> can any answer my question?
[07:45] <zenspirit> Hi all ... question from a linux/ubuntu noob (yes another one :p ) How do i make pidgin launch when i start ubuntu (startup script?)
[07:45] <triden1> stuart_: Yep, was sending zips a plenty yesterday.
[07:45] <aelliott> does anyone know if Fiesty uses prelinking as standard?
[07:45] <triden1> News: windows Vista Helps Boost Sales Of... Windows XP by 50%!
[07:45] <stuart_> triden1, could you get a display pic of yourself up as well?
[07:46] <triden1> stuart_: Yup.
[07:46] <ImmortalEVENT> Um..  Im having some sudo  mode problems where I get this message "sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0460, should be 0440" , I can't do a init=/bin/bash in kernal , and when I go into recovery mode and try to do a chmod 440 /etc/sudoers it says I do not have the right permissions.   GAh.. plz help
[07:46] <ladydoor> triden1: Yeah, it seems like GNU hardly even needs the BadVista campaign--MS did it all themselves.
[07:46] <jetscreamer> boot single
[07:46] <triden1> stuart_: If you want to test stuff with me, I'll be happy to add you.
[07:46] <justin420> hi everybody. can anybody tell me how to get swat WORKING on feisty? ive installed netkit-inetd and xinetd and made sure that the off part is not in front of the swat line ( which is the only line in /etc/inet.d.conf ) .  I am stumped at this point, and its top priority right now to get swat working.
[07:46] <jetscreamer> boot single ImmortalEVENT
[07:46] <larson999> hmmm, reactos just released 3.3.  wonder if i should try it
[07:46] <aelliott> i used vista for 3 months and i have to say its really bad
[07:47] <ImmortalEVENT> boot single?
[07:47] <ImmortalEVENT> what do you mean
[07:47] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah it suckas
[07:47] <genefitz> I won't say anything bad about Vista. I have a dual boot Vista/ubuntu system
[07:47] <Guilty_as_Sin> sucks*
[07:47] <aelliott> even browsing to a folder on the root of your disk takes ages lol
[07:47] <jetscreamer> ImmortalEVENT: when you boot, chose single or rescue... if it's not there, hit e, hit e again, edit the kernel line add it to the end
[07:47] <ladydoor> ImmortalEVENT: When you boot, you should see a line that says "press escape to enter the menu"
[07:47] <larson999> i love vista!  it made my wife finally switch to linux
[07:47] <rambo3> !ot
[07:47] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:47] <stuart_> triden1, it's okay, wouldn't wanna trouble you so much, but how'd you set up a display pic in Gaim? i didn't see the option
[07:47] <ladydoor> ImmortalEVENT: do that, and there should be an option that says "single" or "recovery mode"
[07:47] <vas> hey I have set up Samba onmy server, but when i try to access the share with my mac laptop, I see it in it's rightful Workgroup, and the name comes up correct, but when I click the share to connect it tells me the Alias is gone and I can not find it
[07:47] <ImmortalEVENT> yeah I got that part already
[07:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> my wife uses it, I hate it..  I'm having to run half of her crap in compatibilty mode..  not to mention all the holes I had to poke in the firewall just to get the basic stuff working like media center for instance
[07:48] <dr_willis> hmm.. dont ya love reading user reviews of products and every other one is a 1 or 2 out of 10, while the others are all 8 to 9out of 10...
[07:48] <Dhraakellian> jetscreamer: so that's how one would disable the fancy graphical progressbar while booting?
[07:48] <triden1> stuart_: I updated my GAIM to pidgin, let me open my old copy quickly.
[07:48] <vas> srry to ask that here, but ubuntu-sever channel almost always has no one talking
[07:48] <dr_willis> Looking for a decent new printer for My system. :) mine is 10 yrs old.
[07:48] <aelliott> vista works in linux's favor because once people use it, XP seems dated, but then again vista is unusable - so no choice other than linux :)
[07:48] <jetscreamer> Dhraakellian: yes except just take splash off, and maybe quiet
[07:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> redicka' iculousness
[07:48] <Dhraakellian> jetscreamer: on the liveCD, I was just removing splash
[07:48] <triden1> dr_willis: I like my HP printers, fairly well supported.
[07:49] <Dhraakellian> jetscreamer: is that permanent or just per-boot?
[07:49] <rambo3> dr_willis,  some  HP
[07:49] <triden1> stuart_: Bottom right, the little photo thing.
[07:49] <jetscreamer> spash is set somewhere else not in defoptions , i forget where... <--for permanent
[07:49] <Dhraakellian> okay
[07:49] <unimatrix9> seen mac os x keynote? vote for an ubuntu keynote every release!
[07:49] <jetscreamer> no quiet is set elsewhere
[07:49] <jetscreamer> spalsh is in defoptions iirc
[07:49] <zacdavis> bleh, keynote...
[07:50] <unimatrix9> keynote on ubuntu !
[07:50] <stuart_> triden1, upgraded? is pidgin better tehn?
[07:50] <unimatrix9> would that not be great?
[07:50] <dr_willis> rambo3,  thats what im looking at now. Seeing some very nice all in one products
[07:50] <triden1> stuart_: Well, it's just that gaim is discontinued, so, I went to pidgin.
[07:50] <zacdavis> i wouldn't care if keynote came to ubuntu
[07:50] <unimatrix9> or at least some great video's showing off ubuntu, would you prefer that?
[07:50] <zacdavis> triden1: GAIM is Pidgin
[07:51] <dr_willis> A Scanning QUestion. For a "network scanner/all in one printer gizmo" can linux even USE a network enabled scanner?
[07:51] <ImmortalEVENT> Ok, Im having trouble with sudo  I edited the permissions under /ect and now it wont let me do any thing else to revert it back.. IT gives me this error sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0460, should be 0440..   I know that I can type Chmod 440 to revert it back but when I do it says I don't have the right permissions which brings me back to the start.. I just want to be able to revert what I did on /ect permissions so that I can
[07:51] <Pricey> !offtopic | unimatrix9
[07:51] <ubotu> unimatrix9: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:51] <unimatrix9> ubuntu is off topic?
[07:51] <rambo3> dr_willis,  i have just a printer 1 year old. works good. not as best printuout on linux. don't know about all in one types
[07:51] <zacdavis> lol....
[07:51] <unimatrix9> in your opinion?
[07:51] <Pricey> unimatrix9, anything but ubuntu support is offtopic here
[07:51] <FFForever> when will ubuntu tribe 2 be out?
[07:51] <unimatrix9> hmm, strange \
[07:51] <Pricey> FFForever, #ubuntu+1 please
[07:52] <triden1> zacdavis: Yeah, but the GAIM branch is dead in the water, if I remember correctly.
[07:52] <zacdavis> so everything that is being talked about here is off-topic then
[07:52] <unimatrix9> thats the first time i see you around here privey
[07:52] <leetcharmer> hihi all :D
[07:52] <unimatrix9> pricey
[07:52] <Flannel> ImmortalEVENT: next time don't mess with permissions in /etc, that's always a bad idea.  Reboot into recovery mode (at your GRUB menu) and ou'll be able to fix it
[07:52] <Hammwell> how do i find out what version I'm running from command line?
[07:52] <Flannel> Hammwell: lsb_release -a
[07:52] <genefitz> Rambo, my HP officejet works wonderful. Of course, it has it's dedicated fax line (direct to the printer) And I haven't found a reason to use the scanner (since I have owned it)
[07:52] <aelliott> Hammwell: "uname -r"
[07:52] <leetcharmer> is there an easy way to setup a network media server that you can easily upload files to and stream from?
[07:52] <genefitz> but the printer works like a charm :-)
[07:52] <stuart_> triden1, oh okay. does pidgin show 'MSN nickname quotes' ?
[07:52] <Pricey> unimatrix9, lets please stop the offtopic talk and move to #ubuntu-offtopic or pm
[07:52] <Hammwell> aelliot: thx!
[07:52] <dr_willis> genefitz,  looking at all the new goodies in the store today.. doing research befor i buy. :)
[07:53] <sauvin> Does xfce have no taskbar or virtual desktops?
[07:53] <triden1> stuart_: I'm pretty sure, you mean that little text under the name? Yeah.
[07:53] <unimatrix9> i was not talking to you was i?
[07:53] <unimatrix9> :P
[07:53] <dr_willis> Looking at the HP L7680 for my next printer. ANyone have any experience with it and Linux?
[07:53] <mcantor> sauvin: Xfce has both.
[07:53] <stuart_> triden1, k. will get that. so i apt-get install pidgin?
[07:53] <sauvin> Where?
[07:53] <mcantor> sauvin: Are you on a fresh install of Xubuntu?
[07:53] <triden1> stuart_: Not in the repo yet, you'll have to download it from a website.
[07:53] <sauvin> Just ubuntu.
[07:53] <ImmortalEVENT> Hey flannel ... I tried to reboot into recovery and tried to fix what ever i did.. and still no luck..  permissions wont allow me to do any thing
[07:53] <unimatrix9> whats you problem any way?
[07:54] <sauvin> but yes, it's relatively fresh.
[07:54] <mcantor> sauvin: You've installed the xubuntu-desktop package, then?
[07:54] <triden1> stuart_: http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=1045
[07:54] <Flannel> ImmortalEVENT: At the recovery console you should have a root prompt, and you should be able to do whatever you need to do to fix things
[07:54] <stuart_> triden1, kay. thanks.
[07:54] <akos> Hello! Is there a way to make my home directory available in windows also?
[07:54] <sauvin> I don't think so, but on first login, I have options for several things: gnome, kde, xfce, fluxbox, a few others.
[07:54] <dr_willis> akos,  use  /install samba and share your HOMES.
[07:54] <aelliott> Hammwell: if you want to see the version of ubuntu rather than the linux kernel version then you use "cat /etc/issue"
[07:54] <dr_willis> !samba
[07:54] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:55] <Flannel> aelliott, Hammwell, lsb_release -a
[07:55] <akos> dr_willis, on the same machine with dual boot 8-|
[07:55] <triden1> akos: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Share_files_using_Samba
[07:55] <mcantor> akos: If you google "windows ext3fs" (or was it ext2fs?) you can install something in Windows that will let it access Linux filesystems.
[07:55] <justin420> has anybody got swat to work on feisty for them? ived installed netkit-inetd and xinetd and made sure the off part is not there in /etc/inetd.conf.  It is very important that i get swat working on feisty but i cant seem to get it working! ive even tried following the guide at ubuntuguide.org and it still wont work.
[07:55] <akos> mcantor, thanks
[07:55] <aelliott> Flannel:  thats a good one :)
[07:55] <mcantor> sauvin: Huh, I'm a little perplexed by that.  Usually, you shouldn't see those until you've installed their corresponding packages in Ubuntu.
[07:56] <dr_willis> akos,  thats even easier.. windows can read/write to ext2/3 filesystems
[07:56] <phixnay> is there a ubuntu floppy I can use on a computer that won't boot from cd?
[07:56] <dr_willis> !ext2
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <dr_willis> !ext3
[07:56] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:56] <sauvin> I installed "just ubuntu" from a livedvd, and so can't tell you precisley what that means.
[07:56] <unimatrix9> so...
[07:56] <mcantor> sauvin: Well, try right-clicking on the desktop and noodling around in the appropriate menus.  Also use the Xfce menu to get into System Settings, and there should be a menu for panels and virtual workspaces and such.
[07:56] <unimatrix9> i am back
[07:56] <stuart_> triden1, so what do i do with .deb file again? dpkg -i filename?
[07:56] <sauvin> mcantor, thanks, I'll try that.
[07:56] <ImmortalEVENT> ok not to sound newbish but i am... lol  how do you pull up the console in recovery,   is that the terminal if so, when i entered recovery and went to terminal it did not have root prompt?
[07:56] <unimatrix9> dpkgi -i is correct
[07:56] <evoluter> Is there any way to see what services are running via the terminal?
[07:56] <unimatrix9> to install
[07:57] <mcantor> sauvin: Good luck!  I'd give more thorough help, but I'm in KDE right now.
[07:57] <triden1> stuart_: If you download it, GDebi or another package manager should do it.
[07:57] <unimatrix9> dpkg -i
[07:57] <unimatrix9> sorry
[07:57] <Awsoonn> evoluter: top
[07:57] <Flannel> ImmortalEVENT: The recovery console is *only* a terminal
[07:57] <mcantor> ImmortalEVENT: You have to login first.
[07:57] <ladydoor> evoluter: ps aux
[07:57] <unimatrix9> ps aux -a
[07:57] <stuart_> k.
[07:57] <sauvin> How about "settings"...? :D I know what you're saying. I'd been using KDE for so long that other desktops leave me lost, confused, alone, cold and scared.
[07:57] <unimatrix9> wil show a lot
[07:57] <ladydoor> evoluter: (the ps manpage explains more options)
[07:57] <mcantor> evoluter: You can also try "top", though I prefer "htop" (which must be installed via aptitude first
[07:57] <Flannel> ImmortalEVENT: sounds like you didn't actually get to the recovery console, there won't be a login, won't be anything except a root prompt
[07:57] <evoluter> Got to love the ubuntu community, thanks everyone :-)
[07:58] <Nemes> How can I change the GNOME language for a second user (and only for him)?
[07:58] <mcantor> sauvin: Settings should work.  It shouldn't be too hard to find the right dialog.
[07:58] <ImmortalEVENT> /flannel
[07:58] <sauvin> Oh, if you swear these things are there, I'll find them, sooner or later.
[07:58] <stuart-> and what's xfce's window manager again
[07:58] <mcantor> sauvin: I'm absolutely positive that Xfce has panels and virtual desktops
[07:58] <mcantor> stuart-: xfwm
[07:58] <stuart-> thanus? or something? as in gnome's nautilus equivalent
[07:58] <donald> i'd like to plug in an external monitor to a laptop and use Xinerama.. any help?
[07:58] <ImmortalEVENT> hrmm... may be there is my solution
[07:58] <unimatrix9> nemes you could create an user with any language you like i guess
[07:58] <mcantor> donald: Are you using NVidia or ATI?
[07:58] <Flannel> stuart-: thunar is the file browser, not the window manager
[07:58] <donald> nvidia
[07:59] <stuart-> Flannel, silly me. thanks.
[07:59] <phixnay> hey, how can I boot a ubuntu cd if the computer won't boot from cd?
[07:59] <mcantor> phixnay: How do you know it won't boot from CD?
[07:59] <genefitz> Phix, I don't think you can..
[07:59] <unimatrix9> phixnay , have you got an floppy drive?
[07:59] <genefitz> I have never seen a ubuntu floppy set
[07:59] <Nemes> unimatrix9, how? I cant find nothing at "Users and Groups"
[07:59] <ImmortalEVENT> .... cause i did go to the grub menu and try to enter the recovery mode...  but as you said there shouldn't be a login and again thats what i saw...  it asked me to press cntrl d for password or something to continue
[08:00] <Flannel> ImmortalEVENT: right, that's correct.  hit ctrl-d
[08:00] <Guilty_as_Sin> do you need synergy w/ xinerama?
[08:00] <phixnay> mcantor: I tried
[08:00] <donald> Immortal.. that only happens in Ubuntu
[08:00] <phixnay> unimatrix9: yes
[08:00] <Guilty_as_Sin> sorry, just now heared of xine'
[08:00] <unimatrix9> nemes , i think you boot up the user you like to use and set language there
[08:00] <donald> oop.. i mean Debian
[08:00] <stuart-> also, what package should i download if i already have xubuntu installed but want to change to ubuntu
[08:00] <mcantor> phixnay: How old is your computer?
[08:00] <aelliott> phixnay: do you currently have an operating system installed?
[08:00] <rambo3> phixnay, easies way is to swap HD to other computer with CD
[08:00] <Flannel> stuart-: ubuntu-desktop
[08:00] <bmartin> stuart-: ubuntu-desktop
[08:01] <unimatrix9> phixnay there is an program called smartbootmanager that can be run from floppy to boot cdrom
[08:01] <Flannel> !install | phixnay
[08:01] <ubotu> phixnay: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[08:01] <aelliott> phixnay: if you have windows you can install ubuntu from windows https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[08:01] <stuart-> kay thanks.
[08:01] <sauvin> However, until I find these things, where did the Konsole I just minimised go!?
[08:01] <Flannel> phixnay: that first link has a bunch of alternative methods, depending on what you have at your disposal
[08:01] <donald> synergy or xinerama?
[08:01] <ImmortalEVENT> yeah.. i did hit cntrl d.. but when it logged back into ubuntu and asked for my user name and pass again and loaded as normal?
[08:01] <Guilty_as_Sin> theres also wubi
[08:01] <Crow-> !
[08:01] <mcantor> sauvin: Try just Alt + Tabbing, dude
[08:02] <unimatrix9> phixnay , read here http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/
[08:02] <phixnay> quite old, it runs 98 but doesn't have internet access.
[08:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> you can install ubuntu "in" windoze w/ wubi
[08:02] <phixnay> I'll try the smart boot manager, thatnks guys
[08:02] <sauvin> Ah! That's OK,then...!!
[08:02] <unimatrix9> lots of luck!
[08:02] <ImmortalEVENT> ill try once more and come back just incase... it might have been just some retardedness in my part.. but if not thx again
[08:02] <donald> so back to dual screens on a laptop.. what i want is to use Xinerama when the CRT is connected and not when it isn't
[08:02] <Crow-> ok, basic question...i want to install ubuntu like...soonish...though i never ran 2 os on 1 harddrive before...so do i have to go through any additional setups to get something like a dualboot screen on startup?
[08:03] <Nemes> unimatrix9, but I can't find anything related to language! Do you know where I could set that?
[08:03] <donald> is there something i can add in xorg.conf to detect the presence of the external monitor?
[08:03] <Guilty_as_Sin> crow, no.. just install it and you will be presented w/ grub
[08:03] <mcantor> Crow-: During the install process, the Live CD will help you split your hard drive into two halves, one for Windows, one for Linux.
[08:03] <Jamesinator> Is there any way to optimize memory usage in Ubuntu? I have 256mb and Windows 2000 ran perfectly, but Ubuntu hogs nearly all of my memory, and makes running 3D apps that ran smoothly in Windows impossible to run on Ubuntu.
[08:03] <genefitz> Crow, what os are you using now?
[08:03] <Guilty_as_Sin> that will be where you decide which os to boot
[08:03] <unimatrix9> nemes , give this site a read on languages
[08:03] <unimatrix9> http://planet.ubuntu-nl.org/rss10.xml
[08:03] <Crow-> genefitz, Windows XP
[08:03] <Nemes> unimatrix9, thank you very much
[08:03] <mcantor> Jamesinator: You should use Xubuntu, rather than Ubuntu.  Also there are special "low memory" alternative install options.
[08:04] <unimatrix9> hope it helps , other wise come back here
[08:04] <Jamesinator> mcantor: I *am* using Xubuntu
[08:04] <Crow-> mcantor, i still got some free hd space
[08:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah, now partitioning might be a lil scary at first
[08:04] <Jamesinator> mcantor: I've used both XFCE and GNOME, it makes no difference
[08:04] <akos> dr_willis, thanks
[08:04] <tarzeau> Jamesinator: the problem is the software used in ubuntu
[08:04] <bmartin> Jamesinator: try Fluxbox
[08:04] <mcantor> Crow-: How big is your hard drive?  How much free space do you have?
[08:04] <tarzeau> Jamesinator: openoffice, gnome and firefox are memory hogs
[08:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> just remember that you are deciding what the"new" size of windows is going to be..  not the size of the install
[08:04] <genefitz> Crow, I am not sure if it works the same in XP, but in cista, at the disk manager, I was able to right click and shrink my windows hard drive, to clear up some un-partitioned space.
[08:04] <tarzeau> Jamesinator: try livecd.gnustep.org
[08:04] <unimatrix9> get more ram!
[08:04] <Crow-> mcantor, 160gb, around 35-40 gb left
[08:04] <jetscreamer> Jamesinator: try looking in /etc/init.d and see what you don't need
[08:04] <unimatrix9> its cheap
[08:04] <mcantor> Crow-: That should work fine.
[08:04] <tarzeau> unimatrix9: you can't upgrade all computers with memory
[08:04] <genefitz> Then when I loaded ubuntu, I chose guided using most unused space..
[08:05] <tarzeau> unimatrix9: besides some bios don't allow more either
[08:05] <Crow-> mcantor, i know, i just wanted to know how to set up a dualboot ;o
[08:05] <unimatrix9> i see
[08:05] <jetscreamer> no xp doesn't resize it's a vista thing
[08:05] <Injen> When uninstalling something with wine, how do you delete left over Applications/ directories?
[08:05] <unimatrix9> to bad
[08:05] <Jamesinator> It's a problem with the Ubuntu install I have itself, even running after disabling all except system-critical boot apps it still is very slow
[08:05] <mcantor> Crow-: It does it automatically.
[08:05] <genefitz> Loaded up, grub in the MBR, and when my computer starts I use grub to decide windoes or linux
[08:05] <Crow-> mcantor, perfect :D thanks for your help heh
[08:05] <Jamesinator> It shows most frequently with ANYTHING 3D.
[08:05] <dr_willis> Injen,  wine uses a .wine dir - everything is in there.
[08:05] <pete83> Jamesinator: what 3d apps are you using, by the way? (and what video card?)
[08:05] <jetscreamer> Jamesinator: yeah you might check your vid card drivers
[08:05] <tarzeau> any of you do 3d creation stuff?
[08:05] <mcantor> Crow-: Hehe, no prob!
[08:05] <bmartin> Injen, you mean in the GNOME menu? you should be able to right-click on the menu and edit it
[08:06] <mcantor> Corvinis-V: Remember to defrag first
[08:06] <Jamesinator> SiS 315e for the video card, and my 3D apps range from simple things like the 3D chess and Neverball to Morrowind (via WINE)
[08:06] <unimatrix9> sounds like asus terminators
[08:06] <jetscreamer> sis315? that's like very old isn't it
[08:06] <bmartin> SiS makes 3D cards?
[08:06] <jetscreamer> yeh kinda
[08:06] <cdehaan> haha "kinda."
[08:06] <bmartin> lol
[08:06] <Jamesinator> Most likely, but it still ran Morrowind perfectly on Win2k, which seems strange that Ubuntu wouldn't be able to match :\
[08:06] <unimatrix9> does it run planet ping racer?
[08:07] <unimatrix9> :P
[08:07] <cdehaan> Graphic games? You kids and your graphics... ASCII GAMES FTW!
[08:07] <cdehaan> lol
[08:07] <mcantor> Jamesinator: wine isn't really that stable in the first place, to be honest.
[08:07] <Kornbunto> Anyone worked with Nvidia Twinview? I'm trying to find a way to make my desktop function like it did in XP with Ultramon
[08:07] <g0l> nalioth, good afternoon
[08:07] <mcantor> cdehaan: Have nethack, will travel
[08:07] <cdehaan> mcantor: ++
[08:07] <g0l> i need to talk you
[08:07] <g0l> nalioth,
[08:07] <dr_willis> Kornbunto,  assume that NO ONE knows what Ultramon does. :) and Yes i do use twinview
[08:07] <donald> Kornbunto.. twinview works great
[08:07] <genefitz> mcnator, wine is very unstable, it seems...
[08:07] <Kornbunto> Yes it does
[08:07] <nalioth> hi g0l
[08:08] <Jamesinator> mcantor: I know, but if (with my old video card) I was able to run Morrowind perfectly on Win2k, why shouldn't something very simple (like 3D chess, which is running natively) work?
[08:08] <Guilty_as_Sin> unless you running utorrent
[08:08] <genefitz> Just about everything I have tried to run in wine crashes
[08:08] <g0l> my chanel #gerardo
[08:08] <Guilty_as_Sin> lol..  that runs explicitely well
[08:08] <Kornbunto> But I jsut want applications to show on the task bar on whatever screen they are on
[08:08] <unimatrix9> jamesinator : this has probably to do with the card, althouhg it has some 3D support, its really at an hold on development
[08:08] <dr_willis> genefitz,  yep - it can be a gamble.
[08:08] <mcantor> genefitz: Remarkably unstable.  Not only are they reimplementing the Windows API, they're reimplementing *BUGS* in the Windows API that different programs use.
[08:08] <unimatrix9> and the windows drivers are better for this card
[08:08] <putergirl> .
[08:08] <unimatrix9> .
[08:08] <unimatrix9> :)
[08:08] <mcantor> Jamesinator: Everyone seems to be mentioning that it's an older card; perhaps its Linux drivers aren't as up-to-par.
[08:08] <Jamesinator> unimatrix9: Dang! Well, thanks for the help. I guess I'll just keep saving those cereal boxes to buy a system that's remotely modern.
[08:08] <vip3rousmango> anyone know if Nero Linux has buffer under-run protection, or is that a windows only thing?
[08:08] <jetscreamer> Kornbunto: http://linux.hfds.com/files/xorg.conf.debian  & ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/README/chapter-13.html
[08:08] <ferronica> how to do port forwarding in ubutnu fiesty fawn GNOME using DELUGE ?
[08:09] <genefitz> I went out and spent the money on crossover. It works surprisingly well.
[08:09] <Jamesinator> mcantor: No, they're not. I checked the SiS site and they only had ONE generic Linux driver. D'oh.
[08:09] <dr_willis> Kornbunto, huh? a little 1 or 2 by the programs name in the tasklisting ?
[08:09] <unimatrix9> jamesinator : i have the same kind of card for an project at schoool
[08:09] <sauvin> Hrm... xfce hasn't shown me yet where its virtual desktop(s) might be, but apparently taskbars are in the form of "panels" with nothing preconfigured into them. This *might* be a Good Thing, with a little bit of work.
[08:09] <genefitz> But it isn't open source, so ya are kinda screwed with it
[08:09] <unimatrix9> these are games machines with ubuntu, the games
[08:09] <unimatrix9> i used are flash games...
[08:09] <donald> so any help on getting xorg or ubuntu to detect if i have an external monitor connected to my laptop??
[08:09] <unimatrix9> so they do have some fun!
[08:09] <unimatrix9> :)
[08:09] <jetscreamer> try alt+2  sauvin, works in some wm's
[08:09] <unimatrix9> with this old pc
[08:09] <mcantor> sauvin: Yeah, I mentioned "panels" before.
[08:09] <pete83> Jamesinator: if you do get a new computer, make sure it's one with really good linux drivers. The Phoronix website is great for reviews of video card drivers
[08:10] <mcantor> sauvin: Once you have a panel, right click and hit "Add Item", then add a "Desktop Pager".
[08:10] <mcantor> sauvin: That will let you view your different workspaces
[08:10] <bmartin> donald, what you're trying to do is a bit beyond the scope of most users... try posting in the forums
[08:10] <Guilty_as_Sin> speaking of games..  just played sauerbraten for the first time l;ast night..   loved it
[08:10] <sauvin> Ah.
[08:10] <genefitz> Donald, have you tried the monitor switch on your notebook? That is usually a process controlled by the mobo
[08:10] <donald> i see
[08:10] <Popoi> Hi, what did happen with NVU Web Editor in Repositories? If it's no more, what easy editor can I use?
[08:10] <unimatrix9> jamesinator : check support for your new pc before you get it ( nvidia cards maybe )
[08:10] <donald> thanks guys
[08:10] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah I will never buy another ATI anything
[08:10] <tarzeau> Popoi: i think it's still on backports.org
[08:10] <Jamesinator> Ok, thanks guys. Is nVidia the most well-supported Linux Video card?
[08:10] <tarzeau> Popoi: any editor is good? i prefer mcedit and emacs
[08:11] <sauvin> OH! I see... I get to decide for MYSELF what gets put on the taskbar!
[08:11] <bmartin> Jamesinator, i'd have to say yes
[08:11] <dr_willis> Guilty_as_Sin,  they are known as "AMD" now anyway :) so thats true!
[08:11] <Guilty_as_Sin> I hate my laptop for the ATI card inside
[08:11] <mcantor> Jamesinator: So I've heard.  I've had no end of trouble with ATI
[08:11] <mcantor> sauvin: It works that way in all the DEs
[08:11] <Jowi> !info nvu
[08:11] <ubotu> Package nvu does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:11] <Jamesinator> Righto then.
[08:11] <bmartin> the drivers are currently proprietary, but the Nouveau project is working on a FOSS implementation
[08:11] <IndyGunFreak> Guilty_as_Sin: my laptop has intel graphics, and its OK..
[08:11] <unimatrix9> jowi
[08:11] <unimatrix9> http://www.planetmy.com/blog/?p=340
[08:11] <Popoi> tarzeau: Ok, thx, I'll check or maybe I'll try Bluefish ^^
[08:11] <panfist> hello, i was wondering which were some good/popular media players...im trying out xmms but i was wondering if there was something more like amarok for gnome or xfce
[08:11] <unimatrix9> get your nvu there
[08:11] <unimatrix9> backport 7.04
[08:11] <sauvin> I realise, but in some DEs that fact is less immediately obvious.
[08:11] <Guilty_as_Sin> something about radeon xpress 1100.. can't get it to fly on any distro
[08:11] <unimatrix9> http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/n/nvu/nvu_1.0final-0bpo1_i386.deb
[08:11] <Guilty_as_Sin> not even Sabayon
[08:11] <jughead> panfist, there's rhythmbox
[08:11] <mcantor> sauvin: You think so? I always have a blast playing with my DE panels and stuff
[08:12] <genefitz> I am all about nVidia for graphics cards, and AMD for cpus.
[08:12] <IndyGunFreak> panfist: if you like xmms, use audacious, xmms doesn't come out w/ new versions anymore(that i know of), and audacious is pretty good.
[08:12] <bmartin> panfist, you could use Amarok in GNOME or XFCE... do you dislike KDE apps? they always crash for me, even Battle for Wesnoth
[08:12] <genefitz> Personal prefrence..
[08:12] <Guilty_as_Sin> and there live disc is 3d accelerated
[08:12] <Jowi> unimatrix9, good to know if I upgrade to feisty. thanks
[08:12] <panfist> thank you all for replies
[08:12] <sauvin> mcantor, I gave up trying to work with gnome and for the longest time decided if a computer doesn't have KDE on it, it's worthless.
[08:12] <panfist> jughead, i'll try it
[08:12] <genefitz> Mainly because every ATI card has crapped out on me, and about every intel processor has as well..
[08:12] <IndyGunFreak> bmartin: Amarok works fine for me under Gnome, what errors do you get when running it.
[08:12] <panfist> indygunfreak i'll try audacious
[08:12] <mcantor> sauvin: Hahaha, I've been enejoying KDE for a while.  I forget why I switched away from Gnome
[08:12] <Popoi> unimatrix9: than you! =)
[08:12] <mcantor> panfist: I suggest amaroK
[08:13] <sauvin> I remember why I did. gnome crashed a lot.
[08:13] <IndyGunFreak> panfist: i like it a lot but your mileage may very, similar to xmms, but w/ more options, etc.
[08:13] <user01> what ports do i need to forward to get bittorent to function correctly?  im forwarding tcp from router to the static address of my computer, but has 0 upload
[08:13] <panfist> bmartin im running xubuntu on my celeron laptop and was worried that enabling KDE apps might slow things down
[08:13] <oasisfai> 
[08:13] <Kornbunto> dr_willis,  sorry fo the delayed reponse was reading, bascially I just want the bottom panel to show whatever app is active on that monitor, right now they are all shoping up on my primary monitor
[08:13] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah me2..
[08:13] <bmartin> IndyGunFreak: i get random crashes in just about every KDE app i use... even Konqueror crashes on me... but I use Fluxbox now (and used to use GNOME) so i don't use many of them
[08:13] <pete83> panfist: the Gnome clone of Amarok is supposed to be Exaile
[08:13] <stuart-> eh? anybody know how i can set pidgin up so that i can see their MSN 'nickname quotes'?
[08:13] <IndyGunFreak> bmartin: i see
[08:13] <jetscreamer> user01: bittorrent randomizes the ports, change the config if you wnat to limit it
[08:13] <Guilty_as_Sin> don't care for enlightenment at all
[08:13] <panfist> mcantor pete83 well technicaly im not running gnome but im running other gnome apps in xfce and they seems to work fine
[08:13] <IndyGunFreak> panfist: depending on the speed of your PC, kde apps might slow it down a tad, whats the system specs?
[08:14] <sauvin> panfist, I'm running kde (usually) on ubuntu on a laptop and am being continually amazed still at how FAST things run. I'm used to Fedora Core being a bit, um, lethargic.
[08:14] <unimatrix9> panfist : choice enough , i use beep-mediaplayer
[08:14] <user01> jetscreamer:  to i have allow allow an outgoing rule then on my router?
[08:14] <bmartin> panfist: it depends on the application; some are very resource intensive. i find a huge savings from not using a big desktop manager
[08:14] <unimatrix9> it can be skinned with winamp classic skins
[08:14] <mcantor> panfist: Yeah, they should.  Gnome and KDE apps should work fine in Xfce.
[08:14] <pete83> panfist: yes, but try Exaile and see how the interface in GTK compares the Amarok one
[08:14] <IndyGunFreak> beep?... has nothing on audacious if you ask me.... plus isn't that supported by communism?
[08:14] <obf213> can you edit tags in rythmbox.
[08:14] <panfist> pete83 will do
[08:14] <user01> jetscreamer:  for the ramge of random ports?
[08:14] <panfist> unimatrix9 thanks ive made a note of that one
[08:14] <mcantor> obf213: There's a great tag editing program called EasyTag
[08:14] <IndyGunFreak> obf213: i think so, if not, sudo apt-get install easytag
[08:14] <obf213> i googled it, and ppl say u can but i cant for somereason
[08:14] <z> is anyone a wiz with teh xserver?
[08:14] <jetscreamer> user01: you'd have to limit the range of ports bittorrent uses, or you'd have to open up a large range in the router
[08:14] <obf213> alright
[08:15] <genefitz> I am running Ubunty Feisty on my desktop and Ubuntu Ultimate 1.4 (feisty) on my notebook. I am impressed with both
[08:15] <IndyGunFreak> obf213: use easytag, its awesome.
[08:15] <unimatrix9> z ask what you like to know
[08:15] <bmartin> i honestly haven't noticed a big difference in speed between KDE and GNOME and XFCE, but KDE takes forever to load; it helps to use prelink to make it load faster
[08:15] <obf213> easytag it is, thanks guys
[08:15] <z> I can't seem to use startx fluxbox --:3
[08:15] <Popoi> obf213: Easytag rox!
[08:15] <panfist> sauvin what are your specs? my specs are 2.0ghz celeron and 256 megabytes of ram, 32 of which is shared with the video card...as soon as i have a some money to spare i will add another 256 or 512 or ram and then i wont really need to worry
[08:15] <jetscreamer> prelink means it's hogging your mem just waiting for you to use it
[08:15] <putergirl> I am unable to recieve messages on irc from people i know is there a way to recieve them?
[08:16] <IndyGunFreak> putergirl: you probably need to register
[08:16] <panfist> im worried that enabling KDE app support in xfce will eat up some more RAM
[08:16] <bmartin> jetscreamer: i believe you're thinking of preload
[08:16] <IndyGunFreak> !register | putergirl
[08:16] <ubotu> putergirl: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:16] <genefitz> bmartin, KDE is a little more friendly for the common windows user, the layout is more windows like, Personally, I am more into gnome myself.
[08:16] <jetscreamer> putergirl: try being identified, or having them identify, or both
[08:16] <Kornbunto> Jetscreamer after reading what you posted, maybe I didn't make myself clear, twinview is up and running perfectly, I just want a panel to show what apps are on what screen
[08:16] <jetscreamer> what he said
[08:16] <jetscreamer> bmartin: maybe... :/
[08:16] <sauvin> AMD Turion 64 1.8GHz, 1GB RAM, a mother of a HD. (wtf is an "amd turion 64"?)
[08:16] <calidoso> is anyone around that can help me trouble  shoot my wireless setup?
[08:17] <z> exit
[08:17] <IndyGunFreak> genefitz: i don't find KDE to be anymore user friendly for Windows converts than Gnome or Xfce
[08:17] <user01> jetscreamer:  so if im getting good download speed but no upload i have to create a rule somewhere allowing uploads . . . somewhere on the computer iptables?
[08:17] <FFForever> if the us gov asked ubuntu 2 include monitoring software in its releases would it?
[08:17] <Justi1> what are some windows emulators besides WINE?
[08:17] <Guilty_as_Sin> I prefer KDE but still use Synaptic
[08:17] <obf213> ah nvm i guess for some reason. some of my files just can't be tagged
[08:17] <Jamesinator> calidoso: Are you using an RT card, and do you have encryption on your wireless network?
[08:17] <obf213> they just dont show up in easy tag
[08:17] <Flannel> FFForever: no
[08:17] <jetscreamer> user01: yes that is usually the cause, port blockage
[08:17] <Guilty_as_Sin> just never have cared for adept
[08:17] <TimMc> Hey, folks, what the crap is up with Thunderbird + Ubuntu?
[08:17] <IndyGunFreak> obf213: what doesn't show up?
[08:17] <Flannel> TimMc: What do you mean?
[08:17] <TimMc> I mean, why are we still on 1.5?
[08:17] <Anlar> TimMc: ?
[08:17] <recon> Does anybody know a command that will show the size of a file in bits?
[08:17] <Flannel> TimMc: because TB2 was released after feisty
[08:17] <Jowi> Justi1, there are none. however I use qemu to run some older games instead of wine'ing them.
[08:17] <Anlar> TimMc: no one cares, they all use google mail anyways :)
[08:17] <tuxs4w> hi people, i installed ubuntu for my little brother, everything works fine apart from the fact that he can't seem to access https pages correctly in opera or firefox, he is connected to a wireless router. other pc's running windows connect fine to hotmail . . .
[08:17] <Kornbunto> Timc works fine for me
[08:18] <bmartin> genefitz: I'd agree... I simply encountered GNOME first and it's what i got used to... when i show people Ubuntu i load both desktops for them... i don't recommend one over the other
[08:18] <genefitz> Indy, I liked the layout of KDE more when I had just been introduced to linuc (mandrake 9) and I found it to be more like what I was used to...
[08:18] <TimMc> Anlar: You might be right. O.o
[08:18] <mcantor> Justi1: Wine's the only one in the game
[08:18] <FFForever> does the ubuntu team check the source b4 compiling it?, to see if another project has agreed 2?, or do u guys just hope that they don
[08:18] <tigerx> hello
[08:18] <FFForever> 't
[08:18] <genefitz> Now that I have become more comfortable in the linux world, I prefer gnome..
[08:18] <unimatrix9> hi tiger
[08:18] <tigerx> Just installed ubuntu yesterday :)
[08:18] <user01> jetscreamer:  or could it be because i didnt include udp?  i only have forwarded tcp from router
[08:18] <unimatrix9> and?
[08:18] <obf213> ok. so i figured out why i can't edit the tag on some fo the files...they are m4a.. is there a workaround to this anyone kows about
[08:18] <Flannel> TimMc: TB2 is in Gutsty, and I believe someone has a repository for TB2 also.
[08:18] <Kornbunto> dr_willis,  did you see what I typed to you?
[08:18] <TimMc> Kornbunto: Did you get TB 2 directly from Mozilla, or through apt-get?
[08:18] <IndyGunFreak> genefitz: i guess i was the opposite, i figured if i was switching to linux, i wanted somethin totally different
[08:18] <mcantor> FFForever: The Ubuntu team wouldn't distribute something that wasn't freely available.
[08:18] <sauvin> I actually thing Windows users would find xfce to be hostile.
[08:18] <dr_willis> Kornbunto,  proberly not :)
[08:18] <tigerx> I really really like it, it seems very very stable!
[08:19] <Jowi> Justi1, there are a commercial copy of wine that some have more luck with ( i forgot its name)
[08:19] <jetscreamer> user01: afaik, it's either/or, tcp/udp... not sure though
[08:19] <Kornbunto> dr_willis,  sorry fo the delayed reponse was reading, bascially I just want the bottom panel to show whatever app is active on that monitor, right now they are all showing up on my primary monitor
[08:19] <calidoso> Jamesinator: I have a built in wireless. driver is ipw2200. I have WEP and an SSID. I have configured both on the card. I can connect to the wireless network when I boot in windows. when I run iwlist scan I pick up cell 01 and cell02 on wlan0
[08:19] <Jamesinator> Jowi: Cedega
[08:19] <stuart-> so after installing ubuntu over xubuntu i have the option to choose either, right?
[08:19] <bmartin> obf213: m4a files can be converted to other formats... if that's not too much work
[08:19] <Flannel> TimMc: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/05/18/manually-install-thunderbird-2-ubuntu-704/
[08:19] <IndyGunFreak> i dont think iv'e ever heard of m4a
[08:19] <Jowi> Jamesinator, Justi1: that's the one. I prefer win98 under qemu though :)
[08:19] <jetscreamer> sure you have
[08:19] <Justi1> if I install windows on a separate partition, can I load that windows installation from linux, or do I have to boot up into windows?
[08:19] <jetscreamer> mpeg4
[08:19] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[08:19] <Shoopuf> Is there a way to make my MP3s defaul to Exaile? It keeps defaulting to Totem Player. :( :(
[08:20] <tigerx> is there anyway to play Mp3's with this?
[08:20] <dr_willis> Kornbunto,  doubt if thats doable.  could go ask in #gnome, but they tend to keep things very minimal. with twinview the 2 moitors are often treated as 'one' big monitor.
[08:20] <jetscreamer> man update-alternatives
[08:20] <Jowi> Justi1, you need to boot into windows.
[08:20] <tigerx> do I need like a converter?
[08:20] <bmartin> Jowi: is Win 98 easy to set up in qemu? i want to play some of my old Windows/DOS games (DOSBox usually does the trick)
[08:20] <Guilty_as_Sin> yes you can mount the windows volume from linux
[08:20] <SeveredCross> Justi1: You can try load it with VMWare, but it may fail.
[08:20] <tuxs4w> hi people, do you know waht coudl be blocking https / 443 pages? i can host game servers for people to join from the net etc, just HTTPS doesn't work for some reason :( any ideas where to look?
[08:20] <genefitz> Indy, well, when I first started using linux, I was just curious about it. In fact, I put away any ideas about linux for a few years afterward. Then when Ubuntu started gaining some popularity, I gave it another go..
[08:20] <unimatrix9> Shoopuf : was it not rightklick and open with ? then make default?
[08:20] <genefitz> At that time, linux was not nearly as user friendly as it is now..
[08:20] <IndyGunFreak> i bet Amarok will edit tags on m4a's
[08:20] <Shoopuf> tigerx: get exaile it's a good MP3 player. you'll need the codecs as well
[08:20] <mcantor> IndyGunFreak: I haven't gotten amaroK to support M4As
[08:20] <madman91> what command do i start virtualbox with?
[08:21] <Jowi> bmartin, it is very easy. kqemu (speedier hardware plugin) is good to have installed as well though. I run starcraft mostly.
[08:21] <IndyGunFreak> mcantor: oh ok.
[08:21] <tigerx> alright, Im use to winamp for windows, anything similiar to that?
[08:21] <Jowi> bmartin, s/run/play
[08:21] <calidoso> Jamesinator: Everything looks like it's configured properly but I just can't get an IP address when I run ifup wlan0 I run into this error - no dhcpoffers recieved
[08:21] <Guilty_as_Sin> virtualbox
[08:21] <dr_willis> madman91,  i though it was 'virtualbox' or VirtualBox
[08:21] <madman91> Guilty_as_Sin: its not there
[08:21] <jetscreamer> xmms ==winamp
[08:21] <mcantor> IndyGunFreak: I heard some other people got it to work with it, but I haven't, hehe
[08:21] <TimMc> Kornbunto: Did you get TB 2 from repo or did you download it and install it manually?
[08:21] <Shoopuf> unimatrix9: i right-click to open with Exaile but it says nothing about default :(
[08:21] <madman91> tigerx: try amarok as well
[08:21] <ERIK_LIMA> !stream
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <IndyGunFreak> mcantor: i never tried, i just figured it was possible.
[08:21] <Guilty_as_Sin> then you didn't install it right
[08:21] <jetscreamer> !mplayer
[08:21] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[08:21] <Guilty_as_Sin> no offense
[08:21] <Jamesinator> calidoso: Do you have WEP configured properly, and do you have any restrictive rulesets on your router such as MAC filtering?
[08:21] <mcantor> IndyGunFreak: I'm sure it is, I just haven't managed it
[08:21] <madman91> Guilty_as_Sin: sudo aptitude install virtualbox
[08:21] <ERIK_LIMA> !vlcs stream
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vlcs stream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <madman91> Guilty_as_Sin: everything went as planned
[08:21] <panfist> bmartin you mentioned some battle for something app, is that a game?
[08:21] <Guilty_as_Sin> is it in the repos now?
[08:21] <IndyGunFreak> mcantor: well, let me rephrase, i figured it was probably pretty easy...lol
[08:21] <madman91> Guilty_as_Sin: yes
[08:22] <ERIK_LIMA> !vlc stream
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vlc stream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <Guilty_as_Sin> when I last installed it it was not
[08:22] <ryancr> #awn
[08:22] <jetscreamer> battle for wesnoth? blegh
[08:22] <madman91> Guilty_as_Sin: it is now
[08:22] <Guilty_as_Sin> try the one from the website
[08:22] <bathat_> i've been trying to recover my partition table after accidentally wiping the MBR for some time with testdisk, which was able to discover the partitions but i never wrote it to disk and the very next day, it stopped picking up anything
[08:22] <bmartin> panfist: Battle for Wesnoth is a turn-based RPG... it's in one of the Ubuntu repos
[08:22] <bathat_> i did nothing that would have caused any problems between the time it was working and when it stopped
[08:22] <Stuart87> Hi, I just installed ubuntu this afternoon, but can't get X to start
[08:22] <unimatrix9> Shoopuf : then its system / preferences and media ....
[08:22] <madman91> Guilty_as_Sin: ok
[08:22] <dr_willis> ' freecol ' is fun if you are an oldtimer like me and liked the original Colonization.
[08:22] <bmartin> panfist: it comes highly recommended... my 11-yr-old brother and i are addicted... i'm 24
[08:22] <sauvin> Found the virtual desktops under xfce. Please don't ask me to remember where I found them, though... :\
[08:22] <unimatrix9> Shoopuf : in the gnome menu
[08:23] <panfist> bmartin how does it compare to baldur's gate, or square RPGs
[08:23] <Jowi> dr_willis, I got the original *floppies* of colonization even :)
[08:23] <Kornbunto> TimMc,  I'm a noob, but basically I just installed it via ubuntu's applications manager
[08:23] <unimatrix9> panfist try battle of weshnot
[08:23] <tigerx> where do I get codecs for mp3's and such
[08:23] <TimMc> Kornbunto: Okay, thanks.
[08:23] <Flannel> !codecs | tigerx
[08:23] <justinkaas> hello, i just put ubuntu on my acre and something odd happened...the j and p keys stopped working
[08:23] <mcantor> tigerx: google "EasyUbuntu"
[08:23] <ubotu> tigerx: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:23] <TimMc> And you have 2.0?
[08:23] <calidoso> Jamesinator: Yes I have it restricted by MAC address but I already entered this MAC address into the router's list. WEP is enabled. 128 bit key. I've entered it into the /etc/network/interfaces file
[08:23] <sauvin> tigerx, for what application?
[08:23] <dr_willis> Jowi,  :) A true Classic
[08:23] <IndyGunFreak> !codecs | tigerx
[08:24] <justinkaas> they worked under windows
[08:24] <IndyGunFreak> mcantor: easyubuntu is an awful idea.
[08:24] <bmartin> panfist: i'm not a big RPG player... i've played a couple of the first FF games... it's a top-view war game, supporting many players... and there are campaigns... it's hard to compare it to other things
[08:24] <Stuart87> Does anyone here run ubuntu on a 965GM???
[08:24] <Jowi> dr_willis, sure is. I haven't owned a floppy drive for ages though. heh
[08:24] <mcantor> IndyGunFreak: It usually works fine for me.
[08:24] <IndyGunFreak> tigerx: i
[08:24] <IndyGunFreak> !works4me
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about works4me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <mcantor> IndyGunFreak: What's wrong with it?
[08:24] <IndyGunFreak> !works
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about works - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <Guilty_as_Sin> there should be easy gentoo, lmao
[08:24] <calidoso> Jamesinator: Thanks for the help BTW.. I've been reading up in the wiki and the forums all day and i haven't been able to get this up and running
[08:24] <dr_willis> Jowi,  i found a game thta was on the large floppies.. :)  LOOM! with audio tape!
[08:24] <tigerx> ?
[08:24] <Jamesinator> calidoso: http://mepislovers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2819
[08:24] <IndyGunFreak> mcantor: do a search, its been known to break systems, just like automatix
[08:25] <Guilty_as_Sin> easy 30 hour install..  how funny
[08:25] <smash_> hello everyone
[08:25] <Stuart87> Does anyone here run ubuntu on a 965GM?? I can't get X to run
[08:25] <dr_willis> Users - have been known to break systems. :)
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> !worksforme
[08:25] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:25] <Jowi> dr_willis, loom is fantastic. I had no idea there was a separate cassette for it. how cool.
[08:25] <mcantor> IndyGunFreak: You know, everyone always says that, but I've never actually met someone who's had it break their system.
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> !automatix
[08:25] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:25] <mcantor> !easyubuntu
[08:25] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:25] <smash_> can any one help me. should i recompile my kernel headers while i am installing indiswrapper
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> mcantor: then yuou've not hung out here long enough, there's been several here trying to work out hosed systems because of easyubuntu/automatix
[08:25] <dr_willis> Jowi,  some audio/music tracks i guess. havent played it. :) aint got no tape player
[08:25] <Flannel> mcantor: We've had plenty, trust us.  They exist
[08:25] <ladydoor> smash_: Shouldn't be necessary
[08:26] <ladydoor> smash_: Just make sure they *are* installed.
[08:26] <Jamesinator> calidoso: As you can see by some of the commenters there, WEP apparently didn't work well for them, but one suggested that using madwifi instead of ndiswrapper would work
[08:26] <mcantor> IndyGunFreak: Dude, it takes like 20 minutes to install Ubuntu.  If you have a fresh install, and EasyUbuntu screws things up, you can just reinstall.
[08:26] <Guilty_as_Sin> doesn't it come on pclinux?  automatix I mean
[08:26] <Shoopuf> tigerx: there's also a new version of exaile out 2.10 -- download instructions are here http://www.exaile.org/downloads
[08:26] <smash_> ladydoor: how can i  make sure it
[08:26] <IndyGunFreak> mcantor: well, some people don't want to risk that
[08:26] <Flannel> mcantor: And when you use it after you've already done lots of stuff, what then?
[08:26] <dr_willis> Or course I do belive that 'automatix' is NOT under the GPL....
[08:26] <bmartin> smash_: i don't recommend recompiling your own kernel, ever, unless you've got a lot of spare time on your hands and want to learn
[08:26] <IndyGunFreak> and thats hardly a reason to "try it anyways"
[08:26] <madman91> Guilty_as_Sin: doesnt work
[08:26] <ladydoor> smash_: search for "headers" in synaptic
[08:26] <sauvin> GAR... the !codecs links points to a document that contains a link to realplayer10, only, it's a DEAD LINK!
[08:26] <mcantor> IndyGunFreak: That's fair.
[08:26] <Guilty_as_Sin> well I have never tried pclinux nor have I ever wanted automatix
[08:27] <justinkaas> hello, i just put ubuntu on my acre and something odd happened...the j and p keys stopped working they worked under windows.
[08:27] <calidoso> Jamesinator: yup. I'm reading this. maybe it's worth a try.
[08:27] <mcantor> Flannel: Then, I wouldn't recommend EasyUbuntu/Automatix.
[08:27] <sauvin> I looked at the automatix page. It scared me.
[08:27] <Guilty_as_Sin> just seemed like I seen that browsing the watch one day
[08:27] <bmartin> smash_: ndiswrapper doesn't require recompilation of anything, but if you're compiling ndiswrapper yourself, you should have your kernel headers installed... did you want to know how to do that?
[08:27] <tigerx> so does the 2.10 include what I need for the playing the Mp3s
[08:27] <unimatrix9> if you can type j and k , then it works
[08:27] <IndyGunFreak> mcantor: of course, its a lot easier to just install the codecs, etc, the righ way
[08:27] <stuart-> thansen, how'd you set pidgin up so you could see the sentences under their nicks?
[08:27] <Jowi> dr_willis, I was surprised when I saw that my wife had a cassette walkman in one of the drawers (she had been hiding it there for years probably)
[08:27] <vip3rousmango> What can you do when ctl+alt+bckspace doesnt work?? :(
[08:27] <Jamesinator> calidoso: Ok, good luck. Sorry if I wasn't much help, I mostly help with people setting up RT cards on WPA/PSK. :P
[08:27] <ERIK_LIMA> exit
[08:27] <Jowi> !offtopic > jowi
[08:27] <mcantor> IndyGunFreak: Flannel: The thing is, EasyUbuntu & Automatix help Ubuntu get past the chicken & egg problem of "Users won't come to Linux until 3rd parties make it easy to use things" and "3rd parties won't make it easy to use things until users come to Linux."
[08:27] <unimatrix9> mcantor : wich version of ubuntu?
[08:27] <mcantor> unimatrix9: At the moment I'm on Kubuntu 7.04
[08:28] <unimatrix9> ah i see...
[08:28] <Flannel> mcantor: Feisty has gotten past that.  Automatic codec installation, etc.
[08:28] <IndyGunFreak> mcantor: the problem is, EasyUbuntu/Automatix go about it the wrong way...,
[08:28] <unimatrix9> hello pricechild
[08:28] <smash_> ladydoor: so just i need the linux headers while i am installing ndiswrapper?
[08:28] <unimatrix9> :P
[08:28] <sauvin> mcantor, automatix struck me as being a marketing/spyware game.
[08:28] <mcantor> IndyGunFreak: I've been using Ubuntu for 2 years now, and whenever I decide to reinstall, I always forget which wiki pages help you install which codecs, etc.  It's just too frustrating.
[08:28] <IndyGunFreak> mcantor: and i agree with Flannel if you can't install codecs, etc.., w/ Feisty, you're not trying
[08:28] <mcantor> sauvin: I don't know too much about Automatix
[08:28] <sauvin> Go look at the web page.
[08:28] <JohnsonsWhatever> I'm new to Linux and all that. Been around for 12 years almost and it's been like all the Windows ever been out there almost and some Mac OS X and I must say, I gone over to Ubuntu. I never use Windows anymore.
[08:28] <JohnsonsWhatever> Ubuntu is fuckin' magical shit.
[08:28] <ladydoor> smash_: Yeah, it should be fine. They're useful to have around, anyway. Just make sure they match your kernel version.
[08:28] <JohnsonsWhatever> Specially with the Beryl!
[08:28] <JohnsonsWhatever> <3
[08:28] <IndyGunFreak> mcantor: bookmark them... i've got probably 20 bookmarks saved, in addition to .mht files of extremely important info i'm worried might go down
[08:29] <bmartin> vip3rousmango: why are you using those keys? lockups?
[08:29] <Jamesinator> IndyGunFreak: The point of Ubuntu is that you shouldn't HAVE to be trying. Ubuntu is masterful at the amount of ease it puts into the installation, but were it not for several weekends lost googling fixes and asking for help in the IRC, I wouldn't have a working Ubuntu install.
[08:29] <unimatrix9> mcantor, try to follow the how to on restricted codecs , if it does not work, you can still ask here
[08:29] <obf213> does anyone know how to get
[08:29] <Jamesinator> IndyGunFreak: It still needs a way to go towards hands-free installation
[08:29] <mcantor> unimatrix9: Aye, aye.
[08:29] <mcantor> Jamesinator: That's what I'm saying
[08:29] <bmartin> ofb213: what are you trying to get?
[08:29] <IndyGunFreak> Jamesinator: what does?
[08:29] <obf213> does anyone know how to get easytag to write mp4 files
[08:29] <mcantor> IndyGunFreak: Linux.  Ubuntu.
[08:29] <ant-> Jamesinator, my install was hands free
[08:29] <Flannel> Guys, take the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, you're drowning out the support requests, thanks.
[08:29] <smash_> ladydoor: after that why i need to run sudo apt-get install dh-make fakeroot gcc-3.4 build-essential
[08:30] <Stuart87> Does anyone here run ubuntu on a 965GM?? I just installed, and I can't get X to run at all!
[08:30] <vip3rousmango> bmartin: yeah, i was in the middle of swtiching tabs of playing vids on youtube and whamo, everything froze including the mouse. tryed c+a+b: it stared the desktop reboot and it froze in the middle of that!..
[08:30] <obf213> their website says easytag supports writing m4a files
[08:30] <obf213> but they never show up when i run easy tag
[08:30] <IndyGunFreak> mcantor: oh i agree with that, its not quite there yet, but recommending automatix/EU is bad mojo.
[08:30] <Jamesinator> ant-: Not everybody is using the exact same hardware with the exact same configuration with the exact same needs, etc.
[08:30] <obf213> i have 2.0
[08:30] <obf213> it said 2.x can support m4a.
[08:30] <Guilty_as_Sin> I'm pretty impressed with Sabayon myself..   don't get me wrong I will always be a ubuntu fanboy as well..  but for kicks and giggles..  Sabayon has been a lot of fun
[08:30] <Jamesinator> ant-: Hands-free installation is a rather hit-or-miss problem for the Ubuntu devs at the moment
[08:30] <aruiz> does anyone knows which is the bazzar url to branch this project: https://code.launchpad.net/vala ?
[08:30] <Jowi> Stuart87, yeah. it works fine. you need to install the package "915resolution" and use the driver "i810"
[08:30] <Guilty_as_Sin> (I like to try all the distros by the way)
[08:31] <sauvin> Dunno about writing an m4a, but mplayer with all da codecseses can play them.
[08:31] <Stuart87> Jowi, Thanks heaps, where can i dl it?
[08:31] <bmartin> vip3rousmango: you can go to one of your terminals (CTRL+ALT+1) and issue the command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:31] <Jowi> Stuart87, after you install 915resolution run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select i810 and the resolution you want. then restart the computer.
[08:31] <bmartin> vip3rousmango: CTRL+ALT+F1, sorry about that
[08:31] <Jowi> Stuart87, "sudo apt-get install 915resolution"
[08:31] <unimatrix9> mcantor : install all codecs , and config , use aptoncd to backup your cache of apt deb files
[08:31] <vip3rousmango> bmartin: couldn't everything froze.
[08:32] <mcantor> unimatrix9: Duh-buh-wha?
[08:32] <obf213> yeah i cna play the file with rhythmbox fine.
[08:32] <Stuart87> Jowi, does it need to be compiled? Or can i just run it in a tty?
[08:32] <Jowi> Stuart87, I run beryl on the 945GM and it flies (even though it only uses 64MB shared memory it is really good)
[08:32] <smash_> ladydoor why i have to do dh-make
[08:32] <bmartin> vip3rousmango: are you on a laptop? it sounds symptomatic of a low battery... i don't really know what might have caused it
[08:32] <Jowi> Stuart87, open a terminal. type "sudo apt-get install 915resolution"
[08:32] <worzel> 72.20.58.137
[08:32] <Stuart87> Jowi, arrrrrrr my dream! Beryl....
[08:32] <vip3rousmango> bmartin: yup, on a laptop but im plugged in right now...
[08:33] <unimatrix9> never mind
[08:33] <sauvin> I saw screenshots of beryl and don't understand the fascination.
[08:33] <unimatrix9> hehe
[08:33] <CharminTheMoose> what does 915resolution do?
[08:33] <smash_> does anyone knows about the availability of native driver for D-Link DWL510 ethernet in ubundu
[08:33] <Jowi> !resolution | Stuart87 (here are instructions)
[08:33] <ubotu> Stuart87 (here are instructions): The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:33] <vip3rousmango> sauvin: um.. rotating desktop actioN?? thats sweet is it not?
[08:33] <bmartin> vip3rousmango: i don't know what to tell you... if your computer's completely frozen, a restart is the only option i can think of
[08:34] <sauvin> Vip3rousmango, eye candy.
[08:34] <bmartin> sauvin: me neither... it doesn't make me more productive or anything like that
[08:34] <Guilty_as_Sin> you can restart x with a simple ctrl+alt+backspace as well
[08:34] <Stuart87> Jowi, thankyou!
[08:34] <Jowi> CharminTheMoose, it patches some bios commands for the intel chipsets so it can use higher resolutions i believe
[08:34] <mcantor> Has anyone here ever installed WINDOWS on an Ubuntu-only laptop, with the intention of dual-booting?
[08:34] <vip3rousmango> bmartin: thats what i figured, so thats what I did.. and during boot up (after ubuntu splash screen) I get [150.196000]  Buffer I/O Error on device sr0, logical block 225
[08:34] <CharminTheMoose> Jowi, wouldn't that run the risk of blowing up the chipset/monitor?
[08:34] <vip3rousmango> while its booting up
[08:35] <Jowi> CharminTheMoose, no.
[08:35] <bmartin> vip3rousmango: did you try Google?
[08:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> mcantor, you will like the "supergrub" disc
[08:35] <stuart-> i've installed a bunch of stuff on XFCE, when i install ubuntu-desktop and use Gnome later, it's still gonna be the same, right?
[08:35] <mcantor> Guilty_as_Sin: What's that?
[08:35] <smash_> hello everyone...  does any one knows about the native driver
[08:35] <XiXaQ> how do I change which ethernet interface that is used for internet from bash?
[08:35] <CharminTheMoose> Jowi, um, why not?
[08:35] <vip3rousmango> bmartin: im googling it as we type, but i thought someone might have an idea in the chan
[08:35] <linoleum> please everybody : I wonder if there is an alternative to Flashget, under ubuntu ? because my ADLS hang up very often, and I need to download large files
[08:35] <mcantor> stuart-: You might see a few new entries in your Applications menu, but otherwise Gnome shouldn't be different
[08:35] <mcantor> XiXaQ: Look into the "ifconfig" command
[08:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> well when you install windows last it destroys grub..  so..  that fixes grub for you so you can boot both systems again
[08:35] <bmartin> vip3rousmango: i don't know what device sr0 would be
[08:35] <Shoopuf> linoleum: DownThemAll
[08:36] <unimatrix9> supergrub is an good tip thanks , thats new....
[08:36] <vip3rousmango> bmartin: well what would that reference too normally?? Is that usb, cd, hd?..
[08:36] <XiXaQ> mcantor, what shall I look for? The eth interface is connected and up and running, it just doesn't connect to the internet.
[08:36] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah I love it
[08:36] <Jowi> CharminTheMoose, http://intellinuxgraphics.org/
[08:36] <bmartin> vip3rousmango: looks like a CD/DVD device
[08:36] <Guilty_as_Sin> had to use it today actually
[08:36] <stuart-> mcantor, as in all the programs i've installed earlier would be on gnome's menu's as well? no dependency issues, right?
[08:36] <genefitz> The whole resolution fix was the hardest thing for me to get past. I crashed my x-server quite a few times.. Until I found out how to let ubuntu set up my screen and video card without having to do a gedit
[08:36] <Shoopuf> linoleum: My internet cuts out often too. DownThemAll is a download resumer for Firefox (an addon) that works pretty well.
[08:36] <vip3rousmango> bmartin: ok well that'd ahve to be my dvd burner then, its the only one for the laptop
[08:36] <Jowi> CharminTheMoose, it's the intel guys themselves that provide the drivers so I doubt they would risk it :)
[08:36] <sauvin> mcantor, it may be possible to install Windows on an $other_OS desktop, but some surgery will be needed afterwards because MS is notorious for NOT respecting anybody else's boot loader.
[08:37] <linoleum> Shoopuf: gret tank you very much
[08:37] <bmartin> vip3rousmango: do you get the error every time?
[08:37] <mcantor> sauvin: That's so, SO lame.
[08:37] <CharminTheMoose> aww damn
[08:37] <vip3rousmango> bmartin: nope, only after this lil freezing mishap
[08:37] <sauvin> Um... "lame"? You're a MUCH nicer person than I am.
[08:37] <unimatrix9> windos overwrites any bootloader it meets
[08:37] <napster_> i really need help...Can any1 plz help me?
[08:37] <unimatrix9> its not friendly ...
[08:37] <Guilty_as_Sin> I hope he partioned his drive b4 installing windows secondf
[08:37] <unimatrix9> napster?
[08:37] <CharminTheMoose> however useless it'd be.
[08:37] <mcantor> sauvin: Looks like it'll be simpler to just backup my home directory, blast my whole hard drive, install Windows, then install Linux again
[08:37] <bmartin> napster_: what's the problem?
[08:37] <Guilty_as_Sin> otherwise he has no ubuntu anymore
[08:37] <sauvin> mcantor, yes, that would be a lot less painful.
[08:38] <bmartin> vip3rousmango: it's probably nothing to worry about... if you were burning a CD or DVD it's probably no good anymore
[08:38] <Guilty_as_Sin> unless he has multiple drives
[08:38] <genefitz> I found it easier to load windows then linux.
[08:38] <napster_> bmartin: i just got a tv card but i cant seem 2 get it to work...i dont knopw wat 2 do
[08:38] <vip3rousmango> bmartin: hokay.. well if it comes up again.. i'll poke around a little more
[08:38] <unimatrix9> lucky that ubuntu installs in under 30 minutes
[08:38] <genefitz> Grub takes over the bootloader position and is friendly.
[08:38] <m1r> napster_ try tvtime
[08:38] <bmartin> napster_: what brand? it might not be supported. my Hauppage worked out of the box
[08:38] <napster_> wats that?
[08:39] <vip3rousmango> thats because linux has nothing to fear =b
[08:39] <persept> can i write zeroes to EVERY part of a hard drive including the boot sector with dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1  ?
[08:39] <smash_> hello everyone please come any one for help
[08:39] <m1r> napster_ , tv applcation
[08:39] <napster_> its a lifeview
[08:39] <sauvin> I find windows a lot tougher to install than windows. It takes longer, it requires more reboots, and when you're done, you'll be rebooting after each new application is installed.
[08:39] <unimatrix9> napster try tvtime its an program fro you tv card
[08:39] <gravemind> hey guys, I tried that smart boot disk floppy thing, but when I selected boot from cd rom, it said disc error 00xAA or something
[08:39] <unimatrix9> for*
[08:39] <m1r> napster_ , does it detect with lspci ?
[08:39] <abo> how can I change screen resolution in Ubuntu?
[08:39] <bmartin> !lspci
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <bmartin> stupid bot
[08:39] <unimatrix9> gravemind  , i recommended the program for you , it does not see cdrom?
[08:39] <sauvin> As for Ubuntu installing in under 30 minutes... heee... bitch installed itself on my laptop from a livedvd in less time than it took for me to grab some food out of the fridge and chuck it into the microwave.
[08:39] <sfreak> persept: yes, also good to use is DBAN, wonderful little utility for erasing disks from start to finish
[08:39] <mcantor> By the way, does anyone know a good way to debug/test bricked external USB hard drives from Linux?  Is that possible, practical?
[08:40] <napster_> bmartin: no
[08:40] <Guilty_as_Sin> on the alternate disc I can get it installed in about 23minutes
[08:40] <gravemind> unimatrix9: cdrom is an option, but trying to boot from it does not work. I hope that answered your question
[08:40] <sauvin> mcantor, what do you mean by test?
[08:40] <Shoopuf> abo: go to System Menu > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[08:40] <Guilty_as_Sin> (text install)
[08:40] <mcantor> sauvin: Er.. find out if the data is recoverable?  Or see what's actually wrong?
[08:40] <unimatrix9> hmm, seems to be an very old cdrom drive?
[08:40] <napster_> bmartin: sorry. Its a lifeview and the chip says conexant FUSION...
[08:40] <sauvin> Oh. I don't know :(
[08:41] <m1r> napster_ , apt-get install tvtime
[08:41] <panfist> im kind of an xchat noob...is there a way to filter out joining and leaving messages? is there a way to dynamically add key words that will be highlighted like your nickname?
[08:41] <smash_> bamartin: does the native drivers for DWL-G510 available in ubuntu
[08:41] <Guilty_as_Sin> right click and hit preff.
[08:41] <IndyGunFreak> napster_: not sure if that chipset will work with TVTime.
[08:41] <Jowi> panfist, right click on the channel tab and untick the join/leave messages
[08:41] <gravemind> unimatrix9: yes it is. I've had troubles with cdroms in windows 98 before, but usually they work fine in linux or xp
[08:41] <Shoopuf> panfist: if you're using the one that doesn't say "GNOME" in the name, right-click on the channel name (like "#ubuntu") then uncheck join/leave
[08:41] <gravemind> unimatrix9: perhaps the bios will need to be updated afterall
[08:41] <unimatrix9> gravemind : there is no option , you are sure in bios to set to boot from cdrom?
[08:42] <bmartin> napster_: So you ran lspci and the chipset showed up?
[08:42] <Shoopuf> panfist: And if you find out a way that they don't turn back on every time you open the program up let me know. :P
[08:42] <napster_> bmartin: no
[08:42] <Guilty_as_Sin> even better answer (I haven't used it in a few)
[08:42] <gravemind> unimatrix9: right, that is not an option in the bios setup
[08:42] <younghacker> I am getting a NAT error on my ports when setting up Azereus , My VMWare is providing the NAT service is there something that i have to do in Azereus to mitigate this?
[08:42] <sauvin> I've actually had the opposite problem. I've never had Windows give me any crap over a CD or DVD, but Linux does once in a blue moon.
[08:42] <panfist> jowi shoopuf thank you
[08:42] <persept> sfreak: it's a scsi drive, so i think the floppy wouldn't have the drivers for it, so i'll just use dd, and that will write to EVERY spot?
[08:42] <younghacker> or should i suspect that my VM won't allow me to use Azereus?
[08:43] <Guilty_as_Sin> azureus sucks in linux
[08:43] <panfist> is anyone familiar with hydra irc for windows? is there a similar client like that for nix?
[08:43] <sfreak> afaik
[08:43] <vip3rousmango> younghacker: there is an azureus for linux.. but it blows
[08:43] <bmartin> napster_: i'm looking for instructions in Google... have you tried using it in any programs?
[08:43] <younghacker> really
[08:43] <Guilty_as_Sin> (java clients suck in general if you want my opinion)
[08:43] <arpegius> how do i figure out the driver that my (working) wireless card is using?
[08:43] <younghacker> aww man , so it's most like the software?
[08:43] <madman91> vip3rousmango: why does azureus blow?
[08:43] <unimatrix9> gravemind did you try more times, and was the cdrom that you needed to boot in the drive, i use it ( smartboot ) many times with older ibm machines
[08:43] <smash_> is anyone familiar with linux wireless ethernet drivers
[08:43] <sauvin> panfist, hydra is/was on what platform?
[08:43] <abo> Shoopuf, ok it lists 1024/768 as the highest, how could I increase that?
[08:43] <kitche> younghacker: not really since it's the same pretty much as in windows
[08:43] <sfreak> That's what DBAN does, but instead I think it reads from /dev/urandom to wipe the drive
[08:43] <IndyGunFreak> napster_: i'd use google and see if anyone else has gotten your card to work....
[08:43] <panfist> sauvin windows
[08:43] <napster_> im trying 2 download tvtime now
[08:43] <mcantor> arpegius: Try "lspci | grep 802" in console.
[08:43] <sauvin> Don't know a damn thing about it. :(
[08:43] <vip3rousmango> madman91: in linux, its just too bulky and i find it wont find peers as quickly as bittornado or ktorrent
[08:44] <younghacker> oh just linux and azereus don't play nice together?
[08:44] <Shoopuf> abo: increase screen resolution past that? ............ no idea... umm, what is your video card?
[08:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> azureus in linux is like a hole in the head
[08:44] <younghacker> lol
[08:44] <napster_> its my first time ever having a tv card for linux or windows or anything so im clueless
[08:44] <younghacker> dag
[08:44] <recon> What unit does "du" show file size in? bits? bytes? kilobytes?
[08:44] <sauvin> panfist, if you're using the full xchat, and not the gnome-xchat thingie, you're probably already using the best client available (IMO).
[08:44] <panfist> sauvin hydra is a pretty fully featured free client, i dunno if it's as popular as mirc or easy to script for but i dont need those features and hydra is free
[08:44] <vip3rousmango> az in windows is great, i use it to the max but linux.. nope.
[08:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah just do what I do...  install wine and run utorrent
[08:44] <madman91> vip3rousmango: you find it wont find peers as quickly? did you conduct a study or just base it on how bored you were?
[08:44] <IndyGunFreak> napster_: well, first time or not, Google will likely hold some answers for you
[08:44] <unimatrix9> younghacker  , try frostwire..maybe an option?
[08:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> or if you want to stay linux native ktorrent is as close as I could get
[08:44] <dshufelt> if there is anyone here that is at Ubuntu Live, we just started a #ubuntu-live room
[08:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> but it seems sluggish
[08:44] <madman91> rtorrent is the best linux torrent client
[08:45] <sfreak> recon use du -h to make it easier to read
[08:45] <younghacker> is frostwire command line or GUI, rtorrent?
[08:45] <larson999> i use it in linux and don't think it's THAT bad.
[08:45] <clouder> I like transmission for torrents
[08:45] <IndyGunFreak> rtorrent?.. never heard of that one, i like Ktorrent
[08:45] <napster_> i searched google...i didnt find anything
[08:45] <madman91> younghacker: frostwire is gui , rtorrent is cli
[08:45] <unimatrix9> gui frostwire
[08:45] <madman91> IndyGunFreak: rtorrent is cli
[08:45] <younghacker> i'll take both
[08:45] <panfist> sauvin hydra has a nice feature where there is a small panel which shows chat messages of all the channels you have open
[08:45] <younghacker> lol
[08:45] <IndyGunFreak> madman91: i see
[08:45] <unimatrix9> hehe
[08:45] <madman91> younghacker: rtorrent is only for bittorrent.. frostwire is for gnutella networks
[08:45] <recon> sfreak: K being kilobyte?
[08:45] <vip3rousmango> madman91: bordem. i have tones of free time at work. and i sat there and watched az download a 5mb file at 25kb/s i downloaded the same file @ 124.2kb/s with ktorrent
[08:46] <IndyGunFreak> napster_: how do you even know if your card is recognized?
[08:46] <sfreak> yupper
[08:46] <recon> sfreak: ok, thanks.
[08:46] <recon> been a while since i've worked w/ubuntu
[08:46] <sauvin> xchat has all the tabs along the bottom (well, mine does, anyway) and you CAN enable a "rawlog" if you want to see everything.
[08:46] <napster_> IndyGunFreak: i dont...i dont know how 2 check
[08:46] <madman91> vip3rousmango: same exact amount of peers? .. did the tracker announce at the same time?
[08:46] <sauvin> why would you want to see ALL the messages in ONE window anyway?
[08:46] <madman91> vip3rousmango: how do you know those people didnt start uploding another torrent, thus draining their bandwidth
[08:46] <Guilty_as_Sin> too many variables to say one app is better.. maybe one is better configured, I still prefer utor
[08:46] <abo> Shoopuf, Radeon X300
[08:46] <IndyGunFreak> napster_: open a terminal, and type 'lspci', no quotes, then hit enter, and look at the output, see if anything looks like your tvtuner
[08:47] <jetscreamer> lspci | less
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> jetscreamer: what would that do?
[08:47] <jetscreamer> not scroll all the screens at once
[08:47] <pr4bh> can anyone recommend a good looking chess package for ubuntu plz?
[08:47] <Shoopuf> abo: If you go to System Menu > Administration > Restricted Driver Manager   does it say anything about letting you install a video driver?
[08:47] <kitche> Guilty_as_Sin: ah so you like bittorrent then since that's what utorrent is owned by
[08:47] <jetscreamer> let you read it
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, nevre saw that one
[08:47] <bmartin> napster_: try this page (see jumpfroggy's post): http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=344884
[08:48] <vip3rousmango> madman91: yes. at the time of download yes, it was the same amount of peers. i can't tell you about the bandwidth on their side, have nothing to check that..
[08:48] <IndyGunFreak> jetscreamer: well, all you have tod o is expand your terminal, and you'll likely see everything
[08:48] <vip3rousmango> madman91: it was a quick test out of fustration that az was going slow.
[08:48] <recon> on ubuntu, is /dev/random a psuedorandom number generator or actual random number generator?
[08:48] <madman91> vip3rousmango: :) thats fun, I am not defending azureus
[08:48] <madman91> vip3rousmango: i just wanted to know your experiment
[08:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> kitche I guess I do
[08:49] <vip3rousmango> madman91: yar matie
[08:49] <Guilty_as_Sin> but I don't like bittorents GUI if that is what you are getting at
[08:49] <napster_> bmartin: i cant open firefox anymore. I just did an update and it wont let me do anything
[08:49] <madman91> vip3rousmango: next time test out rtorrent as well
[08:49] <Guilty_as_Sin> and there are nowhere near the amount of settings
[08:49] <twiggz> anyone ever have problems installing fiesty over a 6.06 install? 6.06 installs fine....fiesty will not.
[08:49] <madman91> in order of greatness .. rtorrent --> azureus --> the rest
[08:49] <nayyares> our company has about 800 clients, we are looking to update some of the packages time to time, is there any tool available that can search clients with older version of especific packages and update them from local mirror?
[08:49] <twiggz> I am going to try tribe 3 of gutsy not.
[08:49] <Guilty_as_Sin> can't really tweak that lil thing that comes on ubuntu
[08:49] <twiggz> now*
[08:50] <bmartin> napster_: open up a terminal and rename your .mozilla directory to something else (like .mozilla-old) and see if it starts... you could also try running it from a terminal to see if it spits out an error message
[08:50] <IndyGunFreak> napster_: so what kind of tvtuner do you have
[08:50] <bmartin> napster_: renaming that directory will remove all your plugins, but you can move/copy them back, of course
[08:51] <bullgard4> What is the difference between LVM and LVM2?
[08:51] <Guilty_as_Sin> and trying to seed it back after you have closed the operation..   you have to go all the way back and find the place where you downloaded the file and start the torrent all over again, what a pain in the rump
[08:51] <ramza3> how do I lock my screen
[08:51] <Guilty_as_Sin> utorrent rules!
[08:51] <napster_> wats the command 4 rename?
[08:51] <bmartin> ramza3: normally CTRL+ALT+L
[08:52] <shishir> mv oldfilename newfilename
[08:52] <abo> Shoopuf, it lists an ATI proprietary driver which is not enabled... should I enable it?
[08:52] <napster_> bmartin: it didnt work
[08:52] <shishir> anybody has idea about DVDs of Ubuntu's repo
[08:53] <Shoopuf> abo: i dont have expertise in that. i assume it's your video card driver but ask someone else
[08:53] <unimatrix9> abo what do you need the most?
[08:53] <bmartin> napster_: did you try running it from the terminal?
[08:53] <unimatrix9> abo : 3 D desktop , or playing games?
[08:53] <ikonia> shishir: in what way ?
[08:53] <Shoopuf> unimatrix9: abo wants to raise his screen resolution past 1024 but screen resolution wont let him
[08:53] <Xecuter88> can anybody tell me of a good program for monitorin audio input and output?
[08:53] <unimatrix9> ah i see
[08:54] <student_modnar> could someone please tell me what program\process should I use if I installed Fiesty on a box with Win 2k and afterwards, the NTFS partition on the drive I installed to with the guided option doesn't work?
[08:54] <napster_> bmartin: when i go into the update screen though it says: Software index is broken
[08:54] <napster_> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[08:54] <unimatrix9> abo , you need to know what your screen can do ( look into you monitors manual )
[08:54] <jbsn> does Ubuntu run on the Dell 531s ?
[08:54] <IndyGunFreak> jbsn: thats a pretty specific question, try google.
[08:54] <unimatrix9> then edit your xorg.conf settings to the right value
[08:54] <IndyGunFreak> but it all depends on the hardware
[08:54] <bmartin> napster_: run that command in a terminal... it happens to me often, sadly
[08:54] <Guilty_as_Sin> napster did you edit your sources list?
[08:55] <] DR[Blargh> does ubuntu support sata ?
[08:55] <student_modnar> I've tried gpart, but that just seems to freeze up, it ran for 16 minutes trying to detect NTFS partitions
[08:55] <fiveiron> whats that app that can run an OS installed on a separate partition from within a window?
[08:55] <unimatrix9> google around for your monitor ( for example samsung 710c ubuntu )
[08:55] <kitche> ] DR[Blargh: yes
[08:55] <clouder> Guilty_as_Sin: you run utorrent under wine?
[08:55] <bmartin> ] DR[Blargh: yep
[08:55] <jbsn> IndyGunFreak, already tried google.. was hoping someone in here might have a Dell 531s running Ubuntu, hence the question! :)
[08:55] <Guilty_as_Sin> yes
[08:55] <napster_> i did
[08:55] <napster_> il show u the output now
[08:55] <kitche> fiveiron: vmware workstation can
[08:55] <] DR[Blargh> ntfs is usable ?
[08:55] <fiveiron> yeah thats it ... vmware...  or xen too i think
[08:56] <student_modnar> jbsn: It comes on a live cd so you can test drive it before installation, have you already run it?
[08:56] <Xecuter88> can anybody tell me of a good program for monitorin audio input and output?
[08:56] <Guilty_as_Sin> clouder, why?
[08:56] <napster_> bmartin: napster@napster-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
[08:56] <napster_> Reading package lists... Done
[08:56] <napster_> Building dependency tree
[08:56] <napster_> Reading state information... Done
[08:56] <napster_> Correcting dependencies... Done
[08:56] <napster_> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[08:56] <napster_>   python-pygoocanvas libgoocanvas-common libgnokii3 libsqlite0 python-pysqlite2 python-dateutil python-sqlite
[08:56] <napster_>   python-vobject python-elementtree libgoocanvas1
[08:56] <] DR[Blargh> im a first time linux user
[08:56] <kitche> fiveiron: well xen is different
[08:56] <napster_> After unpacking 73.7kB of additional disk space will be used.
[08:56] <jbsn> student_modnar, I don't have the box, I didn't want to buy a box that wouldn't run Ubuntu.. but I didn't want to buy one of Dells crippled Ubuntu pre-installed boxes :)
[08:56] <napster_> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[08:57] <napster_> (Reading database ... 125111 files and directories currently installed.)
[08:57] <napster_> Preparing to replace firefox 2.0.0.4+1-0ubuntu1 (using .../firefox_2.0.0.5+1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> welcome to the club
[08:57] <napster_> Unpacking replacement firefox ...
[08:57] <fiveiron> kitche, how so?
[08:57] <johny5> Ok, I'm still having problems installing Ubuntu 6.06 on a Software Raid system...is there anyway that I can create a /boot cd without ever accessing the computer which it needs to boot?
[08:57] <student_modnar> jbsn: ah, hmm don't know then, sorry
[08:57] <bmartin> !pastebin | napster_
[08:57] <ubotu> napster_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:57] <] DR[Blargh> can linux work on ntfs partitions ?
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> boy he doesn't listen well...lol
[08:57] <spy80us> any1 know how to get the zen vision m recognized?
[08:57] <Xecuter88> can anybody tell me of a good program for monitorin audio input and output?
[08:57] <ikonia> ] DR[Blargh: bit reakky
[08:57] <student_modnar> ] DR[Blargh: you can't run Linux off a NTFS partition but it can read and write
[08:57] <] DR[Blargh> ahhh crap
[08:57] <] DR[Blargh> all my hds are ntfs
[08:58] <bmartin> napster_: did that solve the problem? or is it still not loading?
[08:58] <clouder> Guilty_as_Sin: just don't see the point.  I'm was a huge utorrent fan on windows as well, but transmission is basically utorrent for linux/mac
[08:58] <unimatrix9> !ntfs
[08:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:58] <napster_> bmartin: did u c that thing?
[08:58] <student_modnar> ] DR[Blargh: ntfsresize if you have any free space so you can just resize the partition
[08:58] <Guilty_as_Sin> ah'  I heared of that but just never got around to giving it a go
[08:58] <PriceChild> !paste | napster_
[08:58] <ubotu> napster_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:58] <Guilty_as_Sin> I would love nothing more than to get wine off my system
[08:58] <Guilty_as_Sin> that is all I use it for
[08:58] <] DR[Blargh> thank you modnar
[08:58] <napster_> sorry
[08:58] <bmartin> napster_: yep... it replaced your Firefox with a newer one... that's all i gathered
[08:58] <napster_> didnt know
[08:58] <obf213> can anyone here familiar with easy tag tell me how i can change the info for more than one song at the same time
[08:59] <obf213> for example changng the genre of a an album of songs
[08:59] <napster_> but it has those errors at the end so it wont let me update and stuff
[08:59] <Shoopuf> abo : try turning the ati driver on, cant hurt can it? >_>
[08:59] <IndyGunFreak> obf213: i'm not sure you can
[08:59] <clouder> Guilty_as_Sin: highly recommend it them ;D
[08:59] <Guilty_as_Sin> I usually only fix it if it's broke..  if you know what I mean
[08:59] <] DR[Blargh> vista is a piece of crap and xp takes a good amount of money to protect yourself so im looking for alternatives
[08:59] <bmartin> napster_: i didn't see any errors... could you use pastebin so i can see the whole thing in one spot?
[08:59] <Guilty_as_Sin> but yes, I will give it a go
[08:59] <gravemind> how do you format a floppy to fat? gfloppy doesn't seem to exist anymore :(
[09:00] <Guilty_as_Sin> (after I figure out what is wrong with this acer)
[09:00] <ilovejump> hello everyone i've got a question=) is it possible to get the audio working on Call of Duty 2 on wine?
[09:00] <burak_> hello
[09:00] <Guilty_as_Sin> besides the fact that it's an acer I mean
[09:00] <IndyGunFreak> obf213: i know with Amarok, you can change tags for multiple songs(for example, you can change the tags for al lthe songs under a particular artist)
[09:00] <IndyGunFreak> not sure about easytag though
[09:00] <bmartin> ] DR[Blargh, you can resize your NTFS partition and install Linux on a drive that has Windows on it... that's always an option
[09:00] <] DR[Blargh> im going to set a partition on one of my 3 drives and put it on there
[09:01] <student_modnar> gravemind: mkfs.vfat /dev/fd0 should work for you
[09:01] <bmartin> i don't own an NTFS-formatted drive... i have 7 computers in my house and one of them uses FAT32 with XP... i'm just not a fan of locking myself into proprietary MS stuff
[09:01] <burak_> help pls
[09:01] <DJ-_-> !iptables
[09:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:01] <napster_> i cant get onto firefox so i cant so let me pm it 2 u
[09:01] <gravemind> student_modnar: yay! thanks. this is readable in win 98, right?
[09:01] <DJ-_-> is there anyway to stop iptables?
[09:01] <unimatrix9> Guilty_as_sin : did you look at alternatives for utorrent : deluge, ktorrent or something like that?
[09:01] <student_modnar> gravemind: should be, might check the man page on it, I haven't personally done it
[09:01] <Guilty_as_Sin> yes
[09:01] <bmartin> napster_: my mistake... you could use another browser, go ahead and PM me
[09:01] <ikonia> DJ-_-: iptables -F
[09:01] <ikonia> DJ-_-: iptables -X
[09:02] <] DR[Blargh> i just use windows to play games
[09:02] <ilovejump> So can anyone help me with audio in CoD2, wine?:p
[09:02] <unimatrix9> Guilty_as_sin : did not like them?
[09:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> and even after port forwarding and stuff, they all ran slow
[09:02] <ikonia> DJ-_-: or the iptables init script
[09:02] <obf213> yeah i figured it out. you have to click a the button next tot he article that you change to apply to all selected songs
[09:02] <] DR[Blargh> nothing with sensitive material
[09:02] <DJ-_-> iknoia: X to bring it back?
[09:02] <unimatrix9> ah i see
[09:02] <unimatrix9> to bad
[09:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> (tested them on various distros since they have the about the same speeds usually)
[09:02] <DJ-_-> ikonia: /etc/init.d/iptables does not exist
[09:02] <bmartin> ] DR[Blargh: i'm looking into qemu ATM to play a couple Windows games... probably in Win 98
[09:02] <ikonia> DJ-_-: no . man iptables for more details
[09:02] <SuperNova-A64> does anyone use LMMs?
[09:02] <DJ-_-> ok
[09:02] <DJ-_-> thx
[09:02] <ikonia> DJ-_-: you have to write your own init script
[09:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> ktorrent is nice
[09:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> just seemed a lil slow..  bit tornado was ok too but hate that ugly gui
[09:02] <] DR[Blargh> i think protection should be free
[09:03] <napster_> bmartin: u c it?
[09:03] <IndyGunFreak> napster_: try opera, it may work....
[09:03] <madman91> how do i split files?
[09:03] <student_modnar> ktorrent is pretty nice indeed
[09:03] <unimatrix9> Guilty_as_sin : could utorrent be ported you think?
[09:03] <Pie-rate> what optimizations can be done for a sata drive?
[09:03] <napster_> IndyGunFreak: I like firefox and i just want 2 know wats gone wrong
[09:03] <napster_> i cant even download stuff
[09:03] <IndyGunFreak> napster_: ok, no prob, was just a suggestion
[09:03] <junmin> hi, somebody know where can i downlaod a ALSA cvs version deb package??? please
[09:03] <napster_> i cant do apt-get install
[09:03] <napster_> thnx
[09:03] <Guilty_as_Sin> that is beyond my expertize (at this point)
[09:04] <DJ-_-> why do I received sendto() not permitted
[09:04] <unimatrix9> ok
[09:04] <bmartin> napster_: no... i don't use IRC often... and the message didn't appear on my screen - i think you might have to register your name on here to PM people... i'm not sure
[09:04] <IndyGunFreak> bmartin: thats correct
[09:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> but I try and learn a lil more each day..  so maybe
[09:04] <unimatrix9> DJ-_- you are not registered? or something
[09:04] <IndyGunFreak> napster_: have you tried reinstalling?
[09:04] <DJ-_-> unimatrix9: from local pc
[09:04] <bmartin> IndyGunFreak: thanks
[09:05] <DJ-_-> terminal says sendto(): operation not permitted
[09:05] <DJ-_-> i tried disabling iptables, but no success
[09:05] <student_modnar> should having Win 2K SP2 without 48-bit LBA support crash after adding a linux partition beyond its NTFS partition that is 137 GB?
[09:05] <ikonia> DJ-_-: join #freenode for lessons on how to register your nick
[09:05] <DJ-_-> lol
[09:05] <DJ-_-> i have registered my nick
[09:05] <b0lland> Hi #ubuntu, I would like to let a common user do /etc/init.d/apache2 restart, but obviously you normally need to be root to do that. Is there any resonable work-around available?
[09:05] <ikonia> DJ-_-: if there is no init script, iptables won't be enabled
[09:06] <DJ-_-> i am talking of ubuntu terminal
[09:06] <ikonia> b0lland: sudo
[09:06] <DJ-_-> ikonia: i am running a script with sudo....but it always stops at sendto(): operation not permitted
[09:06] <b0lland> ikonia: but that makes the user able to execute all kinds of stuff, I'd really like to avoid that
[09:06] <DJ-_-> ikonia: i tried disabling iptables also
[09:06] <Guilty_as_Sin> I'm guessing that must be a heat issue with the laptop whoever it was that suggested that, ever since I set it on the vent in the floor I have successfully made it to the 3rd pass on DBAN
[09:06] <ikonia> b0lland: no it doesn't You setup sudo for that command and that user
[09:07] <b0lland> ikonia: a-HA! thanks I'll look into that
[09:07] <ikonia> DJ-_-: why do you keep saying you want to disable iptables, if there is no init script - iptables is not enabled
[09:07] <panfist> where can i go to find out about codecs, media players, etc. specifically, i followed some random guide online which installed 170megs of codecs, then i saw a package called gstreamer.10-ffmpeg which claimed to decode divx, mpeg, etc which seemed like it would do the job a lot better
[09:07] <DJ-_-> ikonia: ok that is not the point, you know why terminal might say "sendto():operation not permitted" ?
[09:08] <NaPsTeR> IndyGunFreak: Re-installing wat?
[09:08] <ikonia> DJ-_-: that is the point as you keep going on about it
[09:08] <IndyGunFreak> NaPsTeR: reinstalling firefox
[09:08] <ikonia> DJ-_-: it depends what your asking your terminal to do
[09:08] <] DR[Blargh> i guess reformatting a drive is my next step
[09:08] <IndyGunFreak> NaPsTeR: open synaptic, do a search for firefox, right click it, and choose "Mark for reinstallation"
[09:08] <Flannel> !codecs |  panfist
[09:08] <ubotu> panfist: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <] DR[Blargh> so is the movie hackers a good tutorial on how to use l33t speak and hack gibson super computers that pen is the system admin of???????!!!
[09:09] <] DR[Blargh> j/k
[09:09] <Guilty_as_Sin> lmao
[09:09] <PF|Ubuntu> How do I install the flash plugin for Firefox? Is it a package?
[09:09] <Guilty_as_Sin> lookout it's zerocool
[09:09] <Flannel> !flash | PF|Ubuntu
[09:09] <] DR[Blargh> lol
[09:09] <ubotu> PF|Ubuntu: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:09] <rambo3> !1337
[09:09] <ubotu> 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[09:09] <panfist> thank you
[09:09] <PF|Ubuntu> ok thanks
[09:10] <] DR[Blargh> hahahahaha
[09:10] <guest__> hallo everobody
[09:10] <Guilty_as_Sin> saw that again on Starz the other night,  I love AJ
[09:10] <unimatrix9> PF|Ubuntu , just use firefox on an flash site
[09:10] <unimatrix9> and it will install
[09:10] <] DR[Blargh> does anyone know lord_nikon personally ?
[09:11] <PriceChild> !offtopic | ] DR[Blargh
[09:11] <ubotu> ] DR[Blargh: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:11] <ikonia> ] DR[Blargh: this is a support channel for ubuntu that is very busy, Can you please take the offtopic discussion to #ubuntu-ffoptic
[09:11] <unimatrix9> ohoh
[09:11] <] DR[Blargh> ack
[09:11] <ilovejump> #wine
[09:11] <] DR[Blargh> sorry guys
[09:11] <PF|Ubuntu> I got a md5sum mismatch when I tried to install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:11] <paolob> hi guys! Anyone could tell me whether I can install ubuntu on the "green" pc of http://zonbu.com? thank you!
[09:12] <guest__> hi
[09:12] <guest__> hi
[09:12] <ikonia> palomer: weak advertising
[09:12] <Guilty_as_Sin> what is the green pc?
[09:12] <LadyNikon> how many times you gonna say hi?
[09:12] <guest__> hi
[09:12] <unimatrix9> PF|Ubuntu , just go to an site woth flash, did you try that?
[09:12] <guest__> hi
[09:12] <b0b> hello
[09:12] <LadyNikon> guest__: stop it
[09:12] <emi> hi
[09:12] <palomer> ikonia, eh??
[09:12] <PF|Ubuntu> I tried using alien to convert the rpm to a deb
[09:12] <unimatrix9> yes hi to you too guest
[09:12] <PF|Ubuntu> didnt work
[09:12] <krzysiekbs> siema ziomy :P
[09:12] <unimatrix9> :P
[09:12] <Flannel> paolob: Looks good, yeah.
[09:13] <ikonia> PF|Ubuntu: alien is never a good idea
[09:13] <PF|Ubuntu> Should I try to compile from source
[09:13] <paolob> Flannel, do you mean I can install ubuntu on it?
[09:13] <aelliott> PF|Ubuntu: what package is it? i find it hard to believe there isnt a *.deb
[09:13] <artabrahao> hi, whent I try to install postfix the error appears: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:14] <PF|Ubuntu> aelliott, flashplugin-nonfree
[09:14] <PF|Ubuntu> aelliott, I got a md5sum mismatch when I tried to install it using apt
[09:14] <unimatrix9> PF|Ubuntu , go to the download site of flash plugin for linux and download it, then put it into your plugins folder the .so file
[09:14] <PF|Ubuntu> ok
[09:14] <Flannel> paolob: yeah.  It's just a normal low power computer.  The only thing you might have issues with (since I don't see a CD drive) is ithe installation itself.  You'd have to know if the bIOS supported booting from USB or not (probably does)
[09:14] <unimatrix9> its  a bit of work, but should function
[09:15] <PriceChild> PF|Ubuntu, http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz extract that, and read the README for where to put the .so file
[09:15] <PF|Ubuntu> ok
[09:15] <sdfsdfdsa> can i install drivers when im using live cd just to check if ubuntu support my hardware?
[09:15] <Savage-{> clvm errors when removing or re-installing - http://pastebin.com/m27a22814; This is a dependency needed by automatix2
[09:16] <Flannel> sdfsdfdsa: yeah, liveCD works just like a real install, just it's all in RAM
[09:16] <sdfsdfdsa> ok thx for help
[09:16] <Justi1> what is a good first person shooter that can be played on both linux and windows?
[09:16] <rambo3> !games
[09:16] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[09:16] <jussi01> Justi1: open arena, tremuloous
[09:16] <jussi01> tremulous
[09:17] <jussi01> Justi1: tremulous is a lot of fun...
[09:17] <Guilty_as_Sin> open arena, saurbraten, nexium maybe?
[09:17] <Justi1> okay
[09:17] <Guilty_as_Sin> not sure which can play on windows
[09:17] <Guilty_as_Sin> just a few of my favs
[09:17] <jussi01> hmm, warsow might be windows also...
[09:18] <Guilty_as_Sin> oh and don't forget tremulous
[09:18] <jussi01> enemy territory also
[09:18] <unimatrix9> for some games you need 3D accel
[09:18] <Savage-{> clvm errors when removing or re-installing - http://pastebin.com/m27a22814; This is a dependency needed by automatix2
[09:18] <ikonia> why do we care about what can be played on windows ?
[09:18] <PriceChild> Savage-{, it is an automatix problem?
[09:18] <dr_willis> ikonia,  i dont care about windows much at all.. :)
[09:18] <jussi01> !automatix | Savage-{
[09:18] <ubotu> Savage-{: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:18] <ikonia> Savage-{: we don't support automatrix
[09:18] <unimatrix9> if you like to match?
[09:18] <IndyGunFreak> NaPsTeR: did reinstalling work?
[09:18] <ikonia> dr_willis: good
[09:18] <Guilty_as_Sin> we don't but I do want to know your linux favs while were at it
[09:18] <Savage-{> ok thx
[09:18] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> what would stop the glitch with dvd playback.not so much of a glitch then artifacting
[09:19] <ikonia> Guilty_as_Sin: this is a support channel not gaming discussion
[09:19] <dr_willis> Fav Linux game = FreeCol for this week. ;)
[09:20] <Savage-{> wait that clvm package is an ubuntu package though
[09:20] <fishbuntu> anybody know if it's possible to dock Gaim to the side of the screen like you can in AIM?
[09:20] <ikonia> yes but automatix wants it
[09:20] <Savage-{> it is just a dependency
[09:20] <Shoopuf> Justi1: World of Padman !!!
[09:20] <Savage-{> isn't it used for other things?
[09:20] <PriceChild> Savage-{, for automatix, you have added automatix repos etc. Please seek their support.
[09:20] <Guilty_as_Sin> Sorry Ikonia, sometimes I forget
[09:20] <Savage-{> I see sorry
[09:20] <Flannel> Savage-{: Or just don't use automatix, save yourself headaches
[09:20] <Shoopuf> Guilty_as_Sin: can talk to us about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:21] <ikonia> Shoopuf: excellent idea
[09:21] <easytiger_home> anyone running ubuntu on an intel mac book? any probs getting it working?
[09:21] <ikonia> easytiger_home: working on it at the moment. Lots of problems
[09:21] <PriceChild> easytiger_home, many have it working fine
[09:21] <ikonia> actually problems are not the right words, hassle is
[09:21] <easytiger_home> mixed response then :)
[09:22] <ikonia> PriceChild: I'd certainly appriciate a discussion with you
[09:22] <easytiger_home> ikonia: what kinda things?
[09:22] <Savage-{> anybody know when that CNR technology will be implemented into ubuntu
[09:22] <ikonia> easytiger_home: the EFI boot loader
[09:22] <ikonia> easytiger_home: the requirment for a specific boot loader
[09:22] <artabrahao> hi, whent I try to install postfix the error appears: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:22] <dr_willis> Savage-{,  heh.  im not a big fan of the CNR stuff.. but heck it if works nicely....
[09:22] <PriceChild> easytiger_home, apart from the webcam
[09:22] <IndyGunFreak> Savage-{: if its anything like Linspires, hopefully never.... synaptic is better
[09:22] <Savage-{> ok
[09:22] <panfist> is there a file that stores the bash command line history i can view or grep?
[09:22] <easytiger_home> ikonia: does grub not work on macs?
[09:23] <dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  Linspire released the CNR stuff to the GPL i think. so it is Linspires. :)
[09:23] <IntuitiveNipple> panfist: type 'history'
[09:23] <bluefox83> is there a place to find themes for beep media player?
[09:23] <ikonia> easytiger_home: not quite, there is a hack for it, but there are other boot loaders
[09:23] <IndyGunFreak> dr_willis: well, cnr is just to friggin slow, i hate it...
[09:23] <Flannel> easytiger_home, ikonia, the new intel macbooks have BIOS emulation
[09:23] <bluefox83> i know..sounds like an odd request seeing as there are tons of better players..but i feel bad with this one payer looking like crap...
[09:23] <dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  yep. i agree
[09:23] <PriceChild> easytiger_home, use their "bootcamp" software.
[09:23] <Savage-{> yeah apt is fast
[09:24] <PriceChild> easytiger_home, its their software to "install windows", but it works with linux fine afaik
[09:24] <easytiger_home> ahh.
[09:24] <IndyGunFreak> dr_willis: really when you think aout it, synaptic is ubuntu's versionm of CNR, its got a ton of software youu can install with 1 or 2 click
[09:24] <easytiger_home> PriceChild: i'm not really lookin to dual boot
[09:24] <syntux> guys, I have two service for power management, acpid and apmd, why would I need both of them for power management ?
[09:24] <ikonia> easytiger_home: this is something I'm working at the moment
[09:24] <PriceChild> !eliolo | easytiger_home
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eliolo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  cnr is just callint the apt-get stuff from what ive seen. :) with a purty web interface
[09:24] <ikonia> easytiger_home: most things are centered around dual boot
[09:24] <PriceChild> !info elilo | easytiger_home
[09:24] <ubotu> easytiger_home: elilo: Bootloader for systems using EFI-based firmware. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 120 kB, installed size 412 kB (Only available for i386 ia64)
[09:24] <eugman> Is there a way to get my laptop o no use all of the screen? The screen is too wide and distorts things?
[09:24] <PriceChild> easytiger_home, that boot loader supports EFI... however I haven't heard of anyone doing it... maybe its possible, maybe it isn't :)
[09:25] <IndyGunFreak> dr_willis: yep, i'd rather See Ubuntu/Canonical, whatever, focus on getting popular programs into the repositories, so that compiling isn't necessary, screw cnr
[09:25] <diambadie> slt q tous
[09:25] <dr_willis> eugman,   odd.,.  on the laptops ive tested Ubuntu handles the widescreen find. what video card? and have you installed the drivers for it?
[09:25] <ikonia> PriceChild: I'm working on that now, it works but appears to be hassle
[09:25] <easytiger_home> eugman:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:25] <PriceChild> ikonia, I'm not surprised :)
[09:25] <ikonia> its a real fighter
[09:25] <Moduliz0r> Hi, how would I make /home/utserver/ucc.init start run at startup? (Im in Ubuntu Server), please dont start sending me Ubot posts :( Im in irssi and its awkward, and no, I didn't get far with Upstart
[09:25] <easytiger_home> agh. might just get a normal laptop ikonia PriceChild
[09:25] <ikonia> I'm working on a mac mini
[09:26] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  easy way - put it in the rc.local script
[09:26] <Moduliz0r> dr_willis:  Will it get run as root?
[09:26] <unimatrix9> ikonia and pricechild are offtopic ? ;)
[09:26] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  you can always use su i think to make it run as other users of course.
[09:27] <Moduliz0r> i know, but if its in rc.local will it be run as root?
[09:27] <IndyGunFreak> dr_willis: this is interesting.. look at the poll   http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7474779842.html
[09:27] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  use su IN the rc.local script
[09:27] <Moduliz0r> so su /home/loadofcrapfilelocation?
[09:27] <paolob> Flannel, the zonbu website sells an external usb DVD R/W. Is such a device boot-capable?
[09:27] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  'man su'
[09:27] <ikonia> paolob: ask them. it depends ont he bios
[09:28] <IndyGunFreak> dr_willis: if you add the two NO options, its pretty close to half the community says no thanks.
[09:28] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  it has an option as to what user to run as- I belive.
[09:28] <dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  :)  No way! Linspire is evil and I want nothing to do with them! (9 percent)
[09:28] <IndyGunFreak> ;)
[09:28] <Moduliz0r> dr_willis: But without it, will it run as root in rc.local? thats what I want
[09:28] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  then of course it will run as root. :)
[09:28] <IndyGunFreak> dr_willis: i consider that sidebyside with the first one... to just use apt
[09:28] <Moduliz0r> cool
[09:29] <Moduliz0r> What's the difference between "exec /somecrap" or just putting the program name?
[09:29] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  might be Safer to runit as a user.. but it depends on how paranoid you are i ugess
[09:29] <mister> my problem : i dont know why it downloads the file instead of open to see it ( php ) http://86.106.92.114/mda/testing.php
[09:29] <LinuX_-_Ubuntu> hey
[09:29] <ikonia> mister your webserver is not setup to handle php
[09:29] <Savage-{> Great flight simulator game - Package: fgfs-base
[09:29] <LinuX_-_Ubuntu> i would like to know from where i can download Linux Ubuntu Beryl
[09:29] <Moduliz0r> dr_willis: The script puts it down to a user
[09:29] <dr_willis> Moduliz0r,  may wan tto check the advanced bash scripting guide, and the Bash docs for that. Its somthign to do with spawning a child process Ibelive
[09:29] <aelliott> hi, please can someone tell me why i can install a program at the command line with apt-get, but i can't find it in synaptic - for example openvpn.
[09:29] <Moduliz0r> k
[09:29] <IndyGunFreak> LinuX_-_Ubuntu: its in the repos..
[09:29] <mister> ikonia, how can i set it please ? or what do i have to install ?
[09:29] <seo1> i need to install ubuntu server to manage apache, tomcat and postresql server do i need to have more than /, /home , swap ?
[09:29] <jussi01> LinuX_-_Ubuntu: join #ubuntu-effects
[09:30] <IndyGunFreak> !beryl | LinuX_-_Ubuntu
[09:30] <ubotu> LinuX_-_Ubuntu: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:30] <Moduliz0r> ok, reboot time
[09:30] <Moduliz0r> Bye
[09:30] <aelliott> my assumption was that a synaptic search would show me all availiable packages in my repos
[09:30] <ikonia> mister there is a guide on the ubuntu wiki
[09:30] <jussi01> aelliott: correct
[09:30] <mister> ikonia,  can you give me the link please..
[09:30] <ikonia> mister https://help.ubuntu.com
[09:30] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[09:30] <ikonia> mister search that site
[09:30] <Ind[y] > Is there any Game Boy (Advance, or even Color)?
[09:30] <jeff_> i have the "checkgmail" app running in my taskbar, and i want it to be there every time i boot.
[09:30] <Ind[y] > emulator
[09:30] <jeff_> will it?
[09:30] <ikonia> jeff_: if its in your desktop profile
[09:31] <Shoopuf> Ind[y] : plenty of emulators for Ubuntu, try www.getdeb.net
[09:31] <IndyGunFreak> Ind[y] : emultion is of questionable legality, so its likely off limits for discussion, but there's a few out there
[09:31] <IndyGunFreak> *emulation
[09:31] <jussi01> !info zsnes
[09:31] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:31] <eugman> Dr_willis, I think the issue is that the only resolutions offerred at the moment are 3:4 ones and easytiger_home's suggestion is a good one.
[09:32] <Shoopuf> jussi01: the repository is 1.42, getdeb.net has 1.51 in a .deb package
[09:32] <IndyGunFreak> jeff_: i never had much luck with the checkgmail app, but mail notification wll do that.
[09:32] <Ind[y] > IndyGunFreak: oh, ok.
[09:32] <Ind[y] > Shoopuf: ok. thanks.
[09:32] <marshall> are the ubuntu repos down or something?
[09:32] <ikonia> marshall: no they are fine
[09:32] <seo1> i need to install ubuntu server to manage apache, tomcat and postresql server do i need to have more than /, /home , swap ?
[09:32] <ikonia> marshall: which ones are you using
[09:32] <IndyGunFreak> marshall: i just updated, they seem fine
[09:32] <kyja> help !!!!!!!
[09:32] <marshall> hmm
[09:33] <ikonia> seo1: you can do that ont he desktop edition
[09:33] <PriceChild> seo1, you don't even need seperate ones. You could just have / and swap
[09:33] <marshall> feisty backports
[09:33] <kyja> I am getting a message at login that says $home file cant be written to
[09:33] <ikonia> marshall: but which hosts
[09:33] <jeff_> whats mail notification is that an app?
[09:33] <marshall> how do i see which host?
[09:33] <jeff_> i like checkgmail, i just need to know how to make sure it runs every time i boot
[09:33] <ikonia> kyja: home is mounted read only or your permissions are wrong
[09:33] <bruenig> kyja, don't use sudo for graphical applications
[09:33] <IndyGunFreak> jeff_: yes, sudo apt-get install mail-notification
[09:33] <PriceChild> !startup | jeff_
[09:33] <ikonia> marshall: look in your sources for list
[09:33] <ubotu> jeff_: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[09:33] <amorphous_> why can i not set crontab to start up a music player to wake me up??? it will copy files etc & the command works on the comand line, but no player will start up when asked by cron??? >/
[09:33] <marshall> http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:33] <seo1> PriceChild> but i will install ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop and share /home
[09:34] <PriceChild> seo1, ah ok :)
[09:34] <kyja> k
[09:34] <bruenig> amorphous_, it doesn't inherit environmental variables what command are you running?
[09:34] <ikonia> amorphous_: because cron doesn't have a shell so won't have a desktop display session
[09:34] <seo1> PriceChild> because i think ubuntu desktop is not a good idea to a server?
[09:34] <ikonia> seo1: its fine
[09:34] <bruenig> no you can get it to work you just need to use DISPLAY=:0 or some such
[09:34] <Justi1> how do I change settings in tremulous?
[09:34] <seo1> ikonia> no to have LTS to 2011
[09:35] <ikonia> amorphous_: you need to specify a shell and options as a startup script
[09:35] <ikonia> seo1: the desktop is LTS too
[09:35] <seo1> ikonia> stopping in 2009
[09:35] <ikonia> seo1: then its up to you
[09:35] <aelliott> am i right in thinking that a cron job is the best way of running a scheduled backup?
[09:35] <ikonia> aelliott: thats an excellent way
[09:35] <aelliott> ikonia: cool, thanks
[09:35] <bruenig> backups schmackups
[09:35] <ikonia> aelliott: although there are backup manager tools too
[09:35] <seo1> ikonia> do you prefer to have a server with desktop edition?
[09:36] <ikonia> seo1: depends what I'm doing
[09:36] <bruenig> guesses*
[09:36] <seo1> ikonia> a last question , i have 80 gb
[09:36] <whatwherewhen> anyone have any luck installing asterisk 1.4 on ubuntu?
[09:37] <seo1> ikonia > what will be the most larger for my server / or /home
[09:37] <ikonia> seo1: depends how you want to lay it out
[09:37] <ikonia> whatwherewhen: astrix is in the repo - works fine
[09:37] <seo1> ikonia> i will install a database server with 20 gb
[09:37] <ikonia> seo1: depends how you want to lay it out
[09:37] <amorphous_> bruenig, ikonia - i've made a script to say play mplayer too... but no joy :/.. do want help but was trying other stuff for a minute (sorry)
[09:37] <seo1> ikonia > Can i install my data in the /home?
[09:37] <whatwherewhen> is ubuntu a good distro to start with?
[09:37] <ikonia> seo1: depends how you want to lay it out
[09:37] <whatwherewhen> or should i try redhat?
[09:37] <ikonia> whatwherewhen: a fine choice
[09:38] <bruenig> amorphous_, what is the exact command you have specified for cron?
[09:38] <bXi> how does one fix sound in wine?
[09:38] <kyja> hmm that might have fixed. I will try tthat
[09:38] <fishbuntu> it has the power to be a good distro to keep using forever, too
[09:38] <whatwherewhen> is this irc channel 24/7?
[09:38] <bruenig> bXi, try in winecfg, if not registry
[09:38] <Shoopuf> bXi: Try #winehq channel
[09:38] <ikonia> whatwherewhen: yes
[09:38] <bruenig> whatwherewhen, closes down at 20:00
[09:38] <whatwherewhen> k thx
[09:38] <fishbuntu> lol
[09:38] <fishbuntu> bedtimer
[09:38] <fishbuntu> -r
[09:39] <aelliott> seo1: i would personally either just have a single root partition scheme or use LVM - creating pre-sized partitions for your mount points can be really annoying further down the line
[09:39] <bXi> bruenig: the winecfg gives problems
[09:39] <amorphous_> bruenig, kaffeine /home/amorphous/Max\ Romeo\ -\ Pray\ for\ Me\ The\ Best\ of\ Max\ Romeo\ \(1967-1973\)/
[09:39] <bruenig> bXi, just make sure it is using alsa
[09:39] <Savage-{> hey guys I found out what is causing this issues with clvm; it is related to redhat-cluster-suite that I installed before automatix2 that I noticed caused some errors installing.
[09:39] <bXi> bruenig: i cant open that tab
[09:39] <seo1> aelliott> i am a learner, what is LVM?
[09:39] <bruenig> amorphous_, ok replace it with: DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/kaffeine /home/amorphous/Max\ Romeo\ -\ Pray\ for\ Me\ The\ Best\ of\ Max\ Romeo\ \(1967-1973\)/
[09:40] <whatwherewhen> anyone have any experience with voicebuntu?
[09:40] <ikonia> amorphous_: also change the track to something good ;)
[09:40] <amorphous_> bruenig, sorry  * 20 * * * * /home/amorphous/alarm ... the command was in alarm
[09:40] <ikonia> whatwherewhen: only official ubuntu releases here
[09:40] <aelliott> seo1: its logical volume manager.  It allows you to divide a disk up into partitions virtually so that the partitions can be resized on demand
[09:40] <amorphous_> ikonia, Hmmm.. ;)
[09:40] <bruenig> amorphous_, just make sure you use full paths and always give it a DISPLAY=:0
[09:41] <aelliott> seo1: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/benefitsoflvmsmall.html
[09:41] <bruenig> amorphous_, even use full paths in that alarm script
[09:41] <lukealpha> can ubuntu run on 800 mhz cpu ?
[09:41] <ikonia> lukealpha: yes
[09:41] <aelliott> seo1:  LVM is difficult to implement, but if you really want to seperate your mount points it is the best way
[09:41] <amorphous_> bruenig, ok - trying...
[09:42] <Savage-{> having problems with package: redhat-cluster-suite; It installs a dependency called clvm that has issues and causes errors when installing other packages
[09:42] <aelliott> seo1:  i would personally just have a default ubuntu install with a single / and the file system as simple directories though
[09:42] <bruenig> separate /home is nice
[09:42] <aelliott> aye, especially if you reformat a lot :)
[09:42] <Enselic> bruenig: what is the pro?
[09:42] <Enselic> or what are the pros, rather
[09:43] <aelliott> security wise it is a bonus to have seperate partitions because you can write lock them as appropriate, but estimating the sizes can be really hard
[09:43] <bruenig> Enselic, if your system breaks, your files are still there mainly
[09:43] <carrot_> IndyGunFreak: sorry. i had 2 change my nick. it was napster_. still having trouble with this thing
[09:43] <carrot_> do u have any ideas?
[09:43] <bruenig> Enselic, if you need to reinstall later because of breakage, all your settings and files are still in place, so you don't have to go through reconfiguring everything
[09:43] <Enselic> bruenig: isn't that true anyway? unless it's a harddisk crash, and /home is on another harddisk
[09:44] <Enselic> bruenig: hmm, ya
[09:44] <bruenig> Enselic, there are some exploits which it will circumvent such as the dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda1
[09:44] <bruenig> hda2 is spared
[09:44] <aelliott> bruenig, imagine if your ubuntu got screwed up, you could reinstall a fresh copy and link it to your home directory on the other disk.
[09:44] <seo1> aelliott> can i shared one lvm/home to another distribution
[09:44] <Moduliz0r> It doesnt work with su
[09:45] <Guilty_as_Sin> separate drive or separate partion?
[09:45] <Moduliz0r> I used su -c "/home/utserver/ucc.init start" utserver
[09:45] <Moduliz0r> and the program doesnt work
[09:45] <Guilty_as_Sin> I'm jumping in "in the middle"
[09:45] <bruenig> Moduliz0r, by the way exec will make the script or shell exit if the command fails, whereas just running it won't
[09:45] <Moduliz0r> ok ill try that as well
[09:45] <aelliott> seo1: not very easily, the LVM system has to all be mounted together
[09:45] <Moduliz0r> so exec su blahblah?
[09:45] <bruenig> Moduliz0r, I don't know what you wanted with that, I am just saying generally, what are you trying to do?
[09:46] <aelliott> seo1: its certainly not good for sharing partitions between distros
[09:46] <Moduliz0r> I need to have a program run at startup
[09:46] <XiXaQ> how do I set an environement variable for all users permanently?
[09:46] <Moduliz0r> and it needs to run as the user "utserver"
[09:46] <aelliott> seo1: in fact most distros wont be able to read the LVM drives at all unless they have the driver module loaded
[09:46] <Moduliz0r> Really it needs to be started from /home/utserver
[09:46] <bruenig> Moduliz0r, ask the people in #bash
[09:46] <Guilty_as_Sin> in effect, it already is..  but I was wondering earlier about using the same /home for sabayon and kubuntu on my desktop..  never really tried that b4, will it work?
[09:46] <Moduliz0r> ok
[09:47] <Scunizi> LiVes looks like a promising video editor.  But what does a person use to make a DVD from a video file?
[09:47] <Guilty_as_Sin> even if I can't it's already mounted
[09:47] <Guilty_as_Sin> but that would be great
[09:47] <Mikeh> I keep hearing about "please let me in" as a way to get into the root account... what does that mean?
[09:48] <bruenig> Mikeh, someone messing with you it sounds
[09:48] <Moduliz0r> Wait it appears to have worked now
[09:48] <seo1> aelliott> LVM is good if we want to add more disk space after?
[09:48] <aelliott> Mikeh: trust me, its not that easy :)
[09:48] <kitche> Mikeh: umm someone trying to social engineer their way into the system
[09:48] <javier> alo ?
[09:48] <Moduliz0r> Heh
[09:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> and they are even polite about it
[09:48] <kitche> which is very easy to do really if you have a user that doesn't know enough to look for
[09:48] <eugman> Aw crap, anyone know how to go back a few steps in a xserver reconfig?
[09:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> they said "please"
[09:48] <aelliott> seo1: yes, thats what its there for - its ideal if you know you will be buying more hard disks in the future
[09:48] <juano__> !bugs
[09:48] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:48] <javier> alguien habla espaol ?
[09:49] <Scunizi> eugman, check for the backup files
[09:49] <seo1> aelliott> ok good
[09:49] <aelliott> seo1:  for example i have a 250gb disk now.  If I bought two more 250gb disks and added them to LVM, it would see one single 750gb disk - I could partition it into chunks as I wanted
[09:49] <aelliott> seo1: the only downside is that it is more complicated than a standard filesystem, theres a bit of a learning curve
[09:49] <eugman> Scunizi, no I mean I'm still in the process of making a new one and made a mistake I want to quit the process or go back to a pevious question
[09:50] <whazilla> hey
[09:50] <Guilty_as_Sin> so that is what LVM is
[09:50] <Guilty_as_Sin> ok, thanks
[09:50] <whazilla> how doi i fit fiesty on a MS pro duo 4Gb ?
[09:50] <aelliott> seo1: redhat and Fedora Core come with LVM set up as standard, ubuntu can be installed with it using the "alternative install disk"
[09:50] <Scunizi> eugman, oh.. you're in the automated setup it sounds like.  You might be able to hit "q" or Ctrl-c
[09:50] <kitche> LVM is only good for raid pretty much
[09:50] <seo1> aelliott> and is it different from ext3
[09:50] <syntux> how can I disable some of my ttys ?
[09:50] <amorphous_> bruenig, still not auite sure I get this - i had DISPLAY=:0 in the crontab command and the
[09:50] <Guilty_as_Sin> and the alternate kubuntu as well (that is where I first seen it)
[09:51] <whazilla> RE: how doi i fit fiesty on a MS pro duo 4Gb ?
[09:51] <stefg> !lvm
[09:51] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:51] <Mikeh> Well, it's not a social engineering attempt, because it wasn't my system. But I was intrigued as to what he meant. We were working with Linux thin clients, and we couldn't get into the root account to recompile rdesktop. I left for awhile and when I got back he had done it and told me that there was a backdoor, "please let me in" perhaps something weird in the kernel? like when you type "windows" and it says "you don't exist"
[09:51] <Mikeh> on some older versions of the kernel
[09:51] <aelliott> seo1: no ext3 is formatted on top of the LVM logical drives
[09:51] <Vai_Ro> has any one set up a logitech g15 keyboard before?
[09:51] <whazilla> RE: how doi i fit fiesty on a MS pro duo 4Gb ?
[09:51] <eugman> Scunizi, Doesn't seem to do anything. Is it safe to just restart the computer?
[09:52] <aelliott> seol: image LVM as a big pool where all your hard disks space is poured together and then partitioned.  Once its partitioned you can choose different formats for each partition just like on a normal disk
[09:52] <amorphous_> bruenig, still not auite sure I get this - i had DISPLAY=:0 in the crontab command and then the alarm command - and now the kaffeine command in the crontab - but still no joy! works ok at the command line though... is there more to it?
[09:52] <Scunizi> eugman, before doing that go to a terminal and "cd /etc/X11".  You'll see "xorg.conf". type "sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak" and see if it creates another file.  Type ls to get a directory listing.
[09:53] <tux_> sera
[09:54] <eugman> Scunizi, yeah it made a backup
[09:54] <Scunizi> What do people use to create a DVD useable on a DVD player?
[09:54] <Scunizi> eugman, good.. now you can reboot.
[09:55] <C-{pR0F> Scunizi: DVD write + DVD software
[09:55] <Scunizi> C-{pR0F, is DVD write in the repo's? also DVD software? is that the title?
[09:56] <IndyGunFreak> did the room freeze
[09:56] <Scunizi> it's warm here.
[09:56] <kitche> IndyGunFreak: nope
[09:56] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[09:56] <amorphous_> Aha! bruenig, ikonia have found it - it's export DISPLAY=:0 && COMMAND
[09:56] <juano__> xtknight: hi
[09:57] <IndyGunFreak> i just get curious when nothing happens for more than 10-15sec
[09:57] <amorphous_> --- :) ---
[09:57] <vox754> IndyGunFreak, I had 10 sec of lag!
[09:57] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[09:57] <C-{pR0F> Scunizi: to make it useable on a DVD player , u need to know what's  the format  that dvd player does play , and then convert your movie into that format , then write it to a DVD-rom
[09:57] <WeepingDemon> :-
[09:58] <amorphous_> Thank you both ikonia bruenig
[09:58] <ikonia> welcome
[09:58] <kyja> I have chmod my home to 744 and the .dmrc file to 644 like it is supose to be but it still says its getting ignored at login
[09:58] <ikonia> glad you got it
[09:58] <amorphous_> ikonia, me too ;)
[09:58] <amorphous_> ikonia, now to find some good tunes :)
[09:58] <juano__> ikonia: hi
[09:58] <kitche> kyja: well chmoding your home can be bad but what is .dmrc used for
[09:58] <ikonia> hello
[09:59] <Scunizi> C-{pR0F, other than Pal, ntsc etc aren't most dvd files stored as vob files.  I'm just looking for software to create a universal movie (ntsc) DVD from .. say a mpeg4 video file.
[09:59] <carrot_> wat does the "apt-get -f install" thing do?
[09:59] <kyja> the .dmrc file is used at login to recall your desktop and language setings from previous sessions
[09:59] <liquiddoom> !apache
[09:59] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:00] <m1r> .
[10:00] <phalkone> I have a problem installing: I want to use a second hard disk as swap space (install just stops)
[10:00] <C-{pR0F> Scunizi: what are u using linux , widows ?
[10:00] <kyja> oooh I think I found the trouble
[10:00] <Scunizi> C-{pR0F, I've got Dapper, Feisty (gnome & kde) and windows xp.. prefer linux
[10:00] <kitche> kyja: well you have to chown your home to the right user but sicne you chmodded your home you most likely messed it up
[10:00] <kyja> I had my 3 logins having the same group name
[10:01] <ikonia> kyja: thats not a problem
[10:01] <Scunizi> C-{pR0F, LiVes will allow me to create a video file of different clips and pic then write it out to a mpg4 file.
[10:01] <vox754> phalkone, how much swap do you need? One GB is enough.
[10:01] <GodSyn_> help : wanting to create a startup script for a mythTV frontend to run AFTER x starts, and BEFORE mythtv-frontend starts. Using fiesty. where would i find the call to start mythTV and add my needed lines before it?
[10:02] <whatwherewhen>         can one install asterisk on the desktop ditro og ubuntu/
[10:02] <whatwherewhen> ?
[10:02] <ikonia> GodSyn_: how can you have a startup script for mythtv that you want toe xecute before it start
[10:02] <phalkone> it's a very old computer: the disk I want to use as swap is only 1.1 GB
[10:02] <ikonia> GodSyn_: a mythtc startup script STARTS myth
[10:02] <kitche> kyja: well you really messed up your /home directory since it should not be 744
[10:02] <GodSyn_> sorry, poor wording on my part. mythtc? thanks!
[10:02] <ikonia> whatwherewhen: I've told you
[10:02] <C-{pR0F> Scunizi: I used to use a software called "Xilisoft video converter" on windows , but let me see what' available for linux
[10:02] <ikonia> whatwherewhen: its in the repo and works fine
[10:03] <Scunizi> C-{pR0F, thanks.
[10:03] <Flannel> kitche: actually, home being 744 isn't unusual.  Mine's 755
[10:03] <phalkone> I set it to logical and swap and the other disk to primair and start up mounted on /
[10:03] <GodSyn_> find -name mythtc is being slow... any clue where it is? (sorry for being a pain)
[10:04] <kitche> Flannel: so you have it setup so any user in the users group can run executables from home
[10:04] <ikonia> GodSyn_: just wait for it to find it
[10:04] <vox754> phalkone, how many partitions do you have in each disk and what are their izes?
[10:04] <ikonia> normally /usr/bin
[10:04] <kitche> Flannel: or whatever group owns home
[10:04] <Flannel> kitche: That's the default perms for home folders in dapper
[10:04] <IceLink> hey there, what was the command to search packages?
[10:05] <vox754> IceLink, use "aptitude search <package>" or "apt-cache search <package>"
[10:05] <phalkone> My first disk is 8.6 GB which I want to use as the main drive with one Ext3 partition; the second drive is 1.1 GB which I want to use as swap; I set this manually but the install process just stops
[10:05] <IceLink> vox754: thanks a lot
[10:05] <kitche> Flannel: true I can execute stuff also but no one else can read my home :)
[10:05] <Flannel> kitche: and world readable is expected, since thigns like public_html need to be world readable, you a-r for anything you don't want readable
[10:05] <SinisterWays> I fell in love with ubuntu
[10:05] <SinisterWays> lol
[10:06] <WeepingDemon> is gentoo better than Ubuntu?
[10:06] <C-{pR0F> Scunizi: well , i can't find one for linux , maybe someone else could help , or u can use one under windows or u can use wine if u don't like windows !
[10:06] <Flannel> IceLink: apt-cache search [stuff] 
[10:06] <vox754> WeepingDemon, that is an offtopic question, which starts flame wars.
[10:06] <IceLink> uff, the list is so long, does anybody know a good terminal-dictionary?
[10:06] <WeepingDemon> sorry fellow,
[10:06] <GodSyn_> ikonia: no files returned.
[10:07] <Flannel> GodSyn_: what are you looking for?
[10:07] <whatwherewhen> if i want to load the clent version of ubuntu is says errror reading bootcd what now?
[10:07] <Guilty_as_Sin> it takes a lot longer to install
[10:07] <ikonia> GodSyn_: then its not on there
[10:07] <ikonia> whatwherewhen: what ?
[10:07] <kitche> Flannel: true myself I just give users a directory in /var/www :)
[10:07] <Scunizi> C-{pR0F, thanks for looking.  I may have to go to winxp to do this. I was hoping to avoid that. Wine is problematic and cumbersome. With all the linux rippers out there you'd think someone would actually like to create a DVD! :)
[10:07] <arooni> does ubuntu now or will it ever support the intel turbo memory?
[10:07] <eugman> What's the driver for intel and how can i tell for sure if I have an intel video card?
[10:08] <whatwherewhen> i daownload the iso image but loads to the installation file but does not wanna go further that saying error loading bootcd
[10:08] <Guilty_as_Sin> WeepingDemon have you tried either yet?
[10:08] <K`zan> Anyone using the mobiledev OO filter to write out .pdb file and have it work?  Keeps telling me "Write Error" ?  Any thoughts appreciated!
[10:08] <GodSyn_> flannel : find / -name mythtc (i was told it is the script that X uses to start mythtv-frontend, I need to add "tvo_set" commands to correct my video display.
[10:08] <whatwherewhen> i used 4 cd'd still o luck!
[10:08] <juano__> eugman: dmesg | grep intel
[10:08] <WeepingDemon> Guilty, yes i'm on Ubuntu now, its great
[10:08] <C-{pR0F> u can use a trial of Xilisoft video converter , it allow u to convert 5 videos kitche
[10:09] <juano__> !intel | eugman
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <Guilty_as_Sin> if you want to give gentoo a try I suggest trying the Sabayon flavor
[10:09] <whatwherewhen> do you thing something wrong with cd or downloaded iso image
[10:09] <Guilty_as_Sin> just my advice
[10:09] <xtknight> juano__, hello
[10:09] <K`zan> Also tried kpalmdoc and that blows out :-(.
[10:09] <juano__> xtknight: hi
[10:09] <K`zan> Do i have to use wincrap to do that?
[10:09] <Sirrush> Hello, I just installed some programs and they are not showing up on KDE I am on Ubuntu Fiesty
[10:10] <Guilty_as_Sin> but neither is better, I'm giving it a go just to see if my hardware is better supported since I didn't do my homework b4 making a big buy
[10:10] <juano__> xtknight: have one question, i got this in response to my bug report yesterday
[10:10] <kitche> Sirrush: what is these programs
[10:10] <juano__> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8544159/fceu_0.98.12-1ubuntu3.diff
[10:10] <dr_willis> Sirrush,  and what programs may that be? you mean they are 'not showing an icon in the menus' ?
[10:10] <juano__> xtknight: and this
[10:10] <xtknight> juano__, can you post the bug # please
[10:10] <Job314> Hey I'm looking for a way to reinstall ubuntuvia ssh.. Is that possible.. Got a server and when i kinda fuckup, i would like to run a script or sometinhg, so I got a clean ubuntu server with ssh again
[10:10] <Flannel> !install | Job314
[10:10] <ubotu> Job314: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:10] <juano__> xtknight: sure sec
[10:11] <K`zan> Well, sigh, lemme try rebooting before I give up completely.
[10:11] <Scunizi> C-{pR0F, looks like there is a program called DVD Author I just found.. http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=dvdauthor
[10:11] <Flannel> GodSyn_: wouldn't that be tv not tc?  Is it an executable?  then use `which`
[10:11] <juano__> xtknight: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/127499  ------> 127499
[10:11] <Sirrush> kitche,  They are from the repo's various programs
[10:11] <juano__> xtknight: im not sure what the response means
[10:11] <kitche> Sirrush: well that doesn't help sicne some programs are cli
[10:11] <Sirrush> hang on I'll give you an example
[10:11] <C-{pR0F> Scunizi: well done
[10:11] <xtknight> juano__, okay.  i will subscribe "ubuntu-universe-sponsors" and have someone look at it.
[10:11] <Sirrush> bx-gtk
[10:11] <xtknight> juano__, he has fixed the bug and is waiting for the patch to be approved
[10:12] <juano__> xtknight: ahh ok
[10:12] <Scunizi> C-{pR0F, probably shoulda googled first but I was feeling lazy. :)
[10:12] <marc> hi dudes
[10:12] <kiwi> er rea.irc.gr
[10:12] <Sache00> hello
[10:12] <xtknight> juano__, actually he already subscribed it.  so now all we have to do is wait for an official Ubuntu person to look at it
[10:12] <rdesh> is gusty okay for normal use? or is it unsafe still?
[10:13] <Flannel> rdesh: it's still alpha software
[10:13] <PriceChild> rdesh, unsafe
[10:13] <DigitalNinja> Can someone tell me what the package "linux-server-image" is?
[10:13] <xtknight> rdesh, quite unsafe
[10:13] <xtknight> !info linux-server-image | DigitalNinja
[10:13] <ubotu> digitalninja: Package linux-server-image does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:13] <GodSyn_> Flannel: >.< rewording. I have 4 commands I need to run prior to mythTV starting. I am using a myth frontend box to do so (ubuntu fiesty), Where would I edit to execute 4 commands after the mythTV user is logged in, but prior to mythTV(frontend application) starting?
[10:13] <rdesh> thx
[10:13] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: you mean linux-image-server?
[10:13] <Job314> Flannel can't really see any with a reinstall from a img or so... the one that comes near is the dedicated, but then i need the "rescue" system
[10:13] <C-{pR0F> Scunizi: "Ask google before asking anybody"
[10:13] <xtknight> !info linux-image-server | DigitalNinja
[10:13] <ubotu> digitalninja: linux-image-server: Linux kernel image on Server Equipment.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20.16.28.1 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[10:13] <DigitalNinja> Flannel: Oh, right. Sorry
[10:14] <Scunizi> C-{pR0F, yea.. but sometimes you just want to "talk"
[10:14] <Flannel> Job314: Job314 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH
[10:14] <JohnsonsWhatever> I've got the newest Gimp now! Can anyone tip me about the best photo album thing to use in Ubuntu 7.04? I soon got a Canon EOS 400D
[10:14] <JohnsonsWhatever> :)
[10:14] <DigitalNinja> So it's just a kernel for servers then
[10:14] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: that's the -server flavor of the kernel
[10:14] <xtknight> Scunizi, C-{pR0F i have to agree.  we can google for 5 hours and not get one-on-one attention
[10:14] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: it has PREEMPT disabled, and a few other tweaks
[10:14] <Flannel> GodSyn_: Does the myth thing startup on boot?
[10:14] <DigitalNinja> Flannel: PREEMPT?
[10:14] <xtknight> preemptive
[10:15] <whatwherewhen> how does ubunto compare to suse and redhat systems?
[10:15] <obf213> how do you set a splash for grub?
[10:15] <xtknight> i think it means that an app can grab control of the cpu whenever it needs
[10:15] <xtknight> !grub
[10:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:15] <Scunizi> xtknight, C-{pR0F , sometimes you can google for 5 hours and not find what you want :(.. www.google.com/linux seems to work better.
[10:15] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preemption_%28computing%29
[10:15] <xtknight> Scunizi, yea
[10:15] <DigitalNinja> Flannel: Thanks
[10:15] <Sache00> how fast is hdd install compared t live cd?
[10:16] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: yeah, PREEMPT allows for faster interrupt response times.  If you use the server kernel on a desktop machine, you might notice the mouse lagging a bitor whatnot.  But it allows server things (that don't deal with HW interrupts) to run faster
[10:16] <xtknight> Scunizi, besides a lot of the pages on the web are over-technical.  when you talk to people they are more human oriented
[10:16] <xtknight> if that makes sense ;)
[10:16] <GodSyn_> Flannel: mysql (and other backend processes), GDM, autologs user "mythtv", then once session is active, runs mythfrontend.
[10:16] <C-{pR0F> Scunizi: yea , sometimes , u can save time  ,by asking someone with experiance
[10:16] <Flannel> GodSyn_: Ah, so, it's probably some sort of startup thing with gnome then
[10:16] <Flannel> !startup | GodSyn_
[10:16] <ubotu> GodSyn_: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[10:16] <vox754> xtknight, I hope you can be here tomorrow monday. Yesterday some stubborn guy wanted to know how to install java for his 6.06 using a CentOS guide and a .rpm
[10:16] <DigitalNinja> Flannel: Should I use this on a web/email/storage server?
[10:16] <Flannel> GodSyn_: check that out, see if you can find osmething there.
[10:16] <GodSyn_> ty, reading
[10:17] <xtknight> vox754, lol ya i will be here, why?
[10:17] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: shrug.   I use the desktop kernel on my serverish box.  It's up to you.  You should read up about it and decide for yourself
[10:17] <phalkone>  vox754, any ideas on my problem?
[10:17] <mads> Hi. I have just installed apache2 along with some php. When I try to open index.php, it asks me if I want to download the file. What shall I do ?
[10:17] <kitche> mads: setup apache the correct way
[10:17] <DigitalNinja> Flannel: Reading now
[10:17] <Sache00> anyone know bout live cd?
[10:17] <Theory> mads: what is "some php" ?
[10:17] <vox754> xtknight, that guy said he'd return tomorrow because nobody listened him... and then he left with lots of F-words
[10:18] <xtknight> vox754, not too uncommon here ;P
[10:18] <dr_willis> Some day i need to invent a way to slap people over IRC.
[10:18] <dr_willis> :)
[10:18] <dr_willis> i will make a fortune!
[10:18] <Job314> ubuntudk
[10:19] <Sache00> anyone know bout live cd?
[10:19] <kitche> mads: most likely your apache2 is not setup to work with php
[10:19] <xtknight> Sache00, what's your question about it?
[10:19] <vox754> phalkone, you seem to be doing things okay. My only suggestion would be to prepare the partitions before installing them. But other than that I don't know. I'd need to try it myself.
[10:19] <Sache00> speed compared to hdd nstall
[10:19] <madman91> if i split a file with "split" how do i merge it back together?
[10:19] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq#head-6e155f7d88034e0b4ed7fa0f73f87d83b5c7f6e2  and I imagine the 'long list' is available in the mailing list archive somewhere
[10:19] <sauvin> You do that and I'll get busy creating a "irc-slap-shield" facility.
[10:19] <xtknight> madman91, "cat"
[10:19] <mads> Hmm.. That's odd. I just did the sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[10:19] <GodSyn_> Flannel: it isn't a true gnome session... or rather, no start bar / etc. It is a minimal install. Directions followed can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Frontend
[10:19] <madman91> xtknight: cat file1 file2 ?
[10:19] <phalkone> vox754, ok thanks for your time
[10:19] <xtknight> madman91, um cat file.part* > bigfile
[10:19] <xtknight> madman91, i think..
[10:19] <madman91> xtknight: sounds about right.. thanks!
[10:20] <JohnsonsWhatever> I've got the newest Gimp now! Can anyone tip me about the best photo album thing to use in Ubuntu 7.04? I soon got a Canon EOS 400D
[10:20] <whatwherewhen> why would i have error reading boot cd when trying to install ubuntu desktop i did not ave any problems installing the server edition?
[10:20] <JohnsonsWhatever> Help!?
[10:20] <Sache00> ?//
[10:20] <xtknight> madman91, so like "cat file.part1 file.part2 > bigfile"
[10:20] <JohnsonsWhatever> Look at me guys, please. Guys!
[10:20] <jetscreamer> whohoo!!! \o/ teh gimpy!
[10:20] <xtknight> Sache00, the HD is faster.  how much faster depends on your setup
[10:20] <dr_willis> JohnsonsWhatever,  you sure that printer even HAS linux support?
[10:20] <dr_willis> JohnsonsWhatever,  theres a Picassa for Linux now. :)
[10:20] <JohnsonsWhatever> PRINER!?
[10:20] <xtknight> lol
[10:20] <JohnsonsWhatever> Hey, printer!?
[10:20] <whatwherewhen> do you think i have to download the image again>?
[10:20] <JohnsonsWhatever> It's a camera I talk aboot!
[10:21] <dr_willis> JohnsonsWhatever,  you are lucky then.. avoide canon printers with linux.. if you can. :(
[10:21] <dr_willis> I found that out the hard way
[10:21] <Flannel> GodSyn_: if you go here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/metapackages/ubuntu-mythtv-frontend  and then traverse down the depends tree (only myth specific things, obviously) there's a little table at the bottom fo each where you can view all the files that the package installs.  It *has* to be one of those, so that should be able to narrow it down for you
[10:21] <JohnsonsWhatever> dr_willis: Picasso or digiKam best!? :)
[10:21] <xtknight> JohnsonsWhatever, any probellm with F-spot?
[10:21] <GodSyn_> Flannel: thanks, will poke around
[10:21] <whatwherewhen> i think i am going to have better luck with fedora or redhat
[10:22] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, which image?
[10:22] <xtknight> whatwherewhen, http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[10:22] <xtknight> you can verify CD too
[10:23] <xtknight> with Md5
[10:25] <raziekiel> Is there a way to delete files based on their size? Like, all folders in a directory that are less than 5mb?
[10:26] <defcon> how do I enable wpa for my wireless in ubuntu, in nm-applet or network manager I dont see it
[10:26] <ketrox> defcon you don't need have to enable it
[10:27] <defcon> ketrox, I dont see an option to login
[10:27] <ketrox> youjust have to select to select a network that uses a wpa encryption
[10:27] <towski> is there a way to get the full command line in top?
[10:27] <ketrox> what do u mean towski
[10:27] <ketrox> ?
[10:28] <xtknight> towski, well htop is better
[10:28] <xtknight> !info htp
[10:28] <ubotu> htp: An HTML pre-processor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.15-3 (feisty), package size 105 kB, installed size 964 kB
[10:28] <xtknight> !info htop
[10:28] <ubotu> htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3-1 (feisty), package size 43 kB, installed size 172 kB
[10:28] <xtknight> or "gnome-system-monitor"
[10:28] <defcon> for some reason I only have WEP available as authentication in gnome network manager
[10:28] <towski> ok hm....
[10:28] <xtknight> defcon, you may need wpasupplicant
[10:28] <towski> but top is tried and true
[10:28] <DjViper> how can I see which process is accessing the HDD ?
[10:28] <defcon> I do not have WPA personal etc available
[10:28] <Broccoly> does anybody have experiance with pxe?
[10:28] <xtknight> !info wpasupplicant | defcon
[10:28] <ubotu> defcon: wpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.5.7-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 251 kB, installed size 640 kB
[10:28] <xtknight> !pxe
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pxe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <towski> i guess ill try htop
[10:28] <G_Willakers> !stunnel
[10:28] <xtknight> !netboot
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stunnel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:29] <defcon> xtknight, I have it installed
[10:29] <rolfen> hello #ubuntu... if i have a dvd and want to encode it to a divx file under ubuntu, what app do i use?
[10:29] <xtknight> Broccoly, please see here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[10:29] <sntnl>  /XDCCC
[10:29] <xtknight> !wireless
[10:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:30] <Broccoly> xtknight: thanks but i didn't even ask my question yet
[10:30] <DjViper> how can I see which process is accessing the HDD ?
[10:30] <xtknight> what are you waiting for? :)
[10:31] <xtknight> defcon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[10:31] <xtknight> does gutsy have improved wpa support?  has the new wireless stack from 2.6.22 doesnt it?
[10:32] <c2c2rock-puptop> how what X "no screens found" fatal io error 104
[10:33] <ninix> !ati
[10:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:34] <ketrox> sc0tt
[10:34] <ketrox> OOPS
[10:35] <LiveUSB> hey folks. I've got an odd question about chrooting into a liveCD's Filesystem to change the root password. it's not a matter of how to do do it, rather will it work?
[10:35] <kitche> if you have irssi this will ignore all joins quits and parts /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +QUITS +PARTS not sure about any other client though
[10:35] <Ahadiel> Could anyone tell me if this laptop would be compatible with Ubuntu? http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10090086&catid=20354#
[10:36] <Ahadiel> Or if anyone has had experience with HP laptops + Ubuntu
[10:36] <DjViper> !offtopic  kitche
[10:36] <DjViper> !offtopic | kitche
[10:36] <ubotu> kitche: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:36] <kitche> DjViper: not really offtopic since it is support
[10:36] <lakcaj> Ahadiel, is it listed here?  http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[10:36] <akos_> Hello! My internet is working fine, but hostnames on the private network don't resolve... What can I do?
[10:36] <nephish> hello all
[10:37] <DjViper> kitche: this isnt the irssi support channel
[10:37] <nephish> anyone know anything about video capture cards?
[10:37] <kitche> DjViper: people do use irssi on ubuntu you know and that question would have been asked anyways
[10:37] <Ahadiel> lakcaj: I'll take a look, thanks
[10:37] <lakcaj> akos, did you add entries to /etc/resolv.conf ???
[10:37] <russe11> Counter Strike Source with Steam under Wine crashes while I'm playing with an error "wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000024 at address 0xd34b423 (thread 0044), starting debugger... Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x00000024 in 32-bit code (0x0d34b423)."
[10:38] <DjViper> kitche: people use alot of stuff ON ubuntu...
[10:38] <clouder> In the file permissions tab, there's blank, check, and a minus looking sign.  What's the minus sign mean?
[10:38] <nephish> is there a program to capture video from a capture card without going through all the mythtv stuff? seems like an aweful lot for what i want to do
[10:38] <akos> lakcaj, it's DHCP, so they are dynamic...
[10:38] <Jowi> russe11, you better ask in the wine channel
[10:38] <akos> lakcaj, what should I add?
[10:38] <Ahadiel> lakcaj: No it is not, it's the HP Pavillion DV6418
[10:39] <Jowi> !wine | russe11
[10:39] <ubotu> russe11: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:39] <Jowi> russe11, think its in #winehq but not sure
[10:39] <russe11> Jowi, just joined ;)
[10:39] <lakcaj> Ahadiel, well, just from personal experience, one thing I would say is to stay away from ATI video cards.  If you can find a lappy with NVidia, I would go with that.
[10:39] <xbaez> hi i have a question, i have in a HD a debian installed with reiserfs filesystem, but i want to install ubuntu in the same HD, how can i resize the reiserfs partition
[10:39] <r0n22> how can you change the screensaver without going into the scrennsaver GUI?
[10:39] <Ahadiel> lakcaj: How about Intel GMA?
[10:40] <Anlar> Ahadiel: gma is wonderful
[10:40] <Ahadiel> lakcaj: It has an Intel GMA 950 (New it seems)
[10:40] <wesolek> hello :) does anybody know how to set (or check) ports in bittorrent?
[10:40] <kitche> DjViper: but it's always good to know you like being spammed with quit and join messages :)
[10:40] <pete83> xbaez: do you have the program gparted?
[10:40] <Ahadiel> Powerful enough to run Compiz Fusion? Anlar?
[10:40] <Anlar> Ahadiel: gma950 runs beryl/compiz extremely smooth.
[10:40] <lakcaj> Ahadiel, I don't have experience with that, sorry.  All i know is I HATE the radeon card in my laptop
[10:40] <DjViper> kitche: I dont notice them
[10:40] <Ahadiel> lakcaj: I used to use an ATI AiW 9800 Radeon in my Desktop PC... well let's just say the heatsink fell of
[10:40] <Ahadiel> off**
[10:40] <lakcaj> akos, an entry would like like "hostname 192.168.1.3" (without the quotes)
[10:40] <clouder> nephish: I think vlc can do what your looking for
[10:41] <lakcaj> Ahadiel, :)
[10:41] <Ahadiel> yeah =/
[10:41] <Ahadiel> Now I'm using an nVidia 7600 GF
[10:41] <akos> lakcaj, I told you they were not static... IP addresses are aquired via DHCP
[10:41] <T-Connect> Need help on this DCC setup. http://img478.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshoten8.png
[10:41] <Anlar> Ahadiel: gma950 runs compiz/fusion as smooth as that 7600 :)
[10:41] <T-Connect> XChat
[10:41] <Jowi> Ahadiel, I have i945GM (GMA950) with shared memory and beryl is very smooth.
[10:41] <Anlar> Ahadiel: that sort of stuff is specifically what gma950 what designed for
[10:41] <Ahadiel> Anlar: Nice. :)))), then maybe I will get that laptop.
[10:41] <nephish> ok, will google and check vlc thanks
[10:42] <lakcaj> akos, well how do you expect your machine to know what IP addys are assigned to other machines on the network?
[10:42] <kitche> T-Connect: you sure your using xchat? I'm checking your screenshot right now
[10:42] <Ahadiel> I happen to know someone who works at HP Canada, so possible discount :D
[10:42] <T-Connect> Do I need to put my IP to get faster speed?
[10:42] <akos> lakcaj, well, they should be able to query the DHCP server, right?
[10:42] <wesolek> bittorent - how to set up the ports? I can't find a proper program interface, only when I run a torrent, but there is no options for that
[10:42] <wesolek> help :)
[10:43] <s_v_e_n> Hello ! when booting Ilike to start a X application on a server, without XDM or GDM, because thre is little memory  - putting  "startx" or "xinit" in rc.local close X immediately after starting - any help apreceated !
[10:43] <akos> lakcaj, ?
[10:43] <T-Connect> I get faster speed on mIRC Upp than XChat
[10:43] <lakcaj> akos, one sec, I'm looking for some info
[10:43] <napster_> hi. I need hep with a tv card quite urgently
[10:43] <Jowi> Ahadiel, it's not very good at 3d games although they run but staggers somewhat. but beryl is very smooth. as I said it uses shared memory (64Mbyte).
[10:43] <locoooo> can anyone help with a wierd networking problem??
[10:43] <raziekiel> Is there a way to delete files based on their size? Like, all folders in a directory that are less than 5mb?
[10:44] <umop-apsidn> i'm sure there's a bunch of stuff in my system slowing me down... how do i optimize the kernel modules and such, so i can not bother loading ati drivers on my nvidia system, etc.?
[10:44] <napster_> can anyone help me?
[10:44] <s_v_e_n> @raziekiel:man find !
[10:44] <Ahadiel> Jowi: The one I'm looking at, has 200mb+
[10:44] <raziekiel> ty s_v_e_n
[10:44] <locoooo> I'm connected to the wireless netowrk and I can ping websites, but I cant sure to the websites in a browser....
[10:44] <Ahadiel> The only game I'd actually want to play would be World of Warcraft
[10:44] <locoooo> isnt that wierd?
[10:44] <eddie> Does anyone know of a good C++ ide that compiles the project in one? Anjuta is doing my heading... and kdev is eww
[10:44] <locoooo> surf*
[10:44] <T-Connect> Set it back to 0?
[10:44] <sotec_prod> anyone know if the playstation 2 controller is plug n play with Ubuntu 7.04?
[10:44] <Flannel> eddie: You check out eclipse?
[10:45] <akos> lakcaj, windows seems to be able to handle it.... I'm looking too
[10:45] <s_v_e_n> @raziekiel: find /home/dir -size +5G -type f -exec rm {} \;
[10:45] <Jordan_U> For some reason when I double click bash scripts I no longer have the option to run them, they just open in gedit instead
[10:45] <eddie> Flannel: I thought that was for Java
[10:45] <umop-apsidn> sotec_prod: i don't know, but i bet google does
[10:45] <Anlar> eddie: eclipse is the heaviest and buggiest fscker you can get.. but other than that, it and anjuta and kdev are pretty much the only ones
[10:45] <Flannel> eddie: It does C++ too, and a bunch of other languages.  CDT is the C(++) development toolkit addon
[10:45] <sotec_prod> google surprisingly does not have a solid answer umop
[10:45] <eddie> Anlar: Damn
[10:45] <Jowi> s_v_e_n, you have several options. one is to use the automatic logon in GDM and start a "default" session. run the command you need in .xsession file in that users home dir.
[10:45] <InfoYANN> hello all
[10:45] <umop-apsidn> Jordan_U: right-click the file, properties, allow execution
[10:45] <sotec_prod> hence my arrival here. :)
[10:45] <raziekiel> thanks! I'm trying to get rid of music folders that just have album art, no songs
[10:45] <s_v_e_n> why can't i start xinit from rc.local???
[10:45] <eddie> Flannel: okay, I think ill stick with Anjuta
[10:46] <Jowi> s_v_e_n, the "default" session in the GDM screen launches what it finds in .xsession.
[10:46] <lakcaj> akos, do you have a domain-name that the machines all belong to?
[10:46] <T-Connect> XChat is crap?
[10:46] <kitche> T-Connect: just check that checkbox to get ip from server
[10:46] <Jordan_U> umop-apsidn: Is that the same a chmod +x ?
[10:46] <s_v_e_n> @jovi: Im less memory on that server, I like to avoid GDM
[10:46] <T-Connect> Ok
[10:46] <guevara> hi
[10:46] <lakcaj> akos, try adding "search domainname" to resolv.conf
[10:47] <guevara> i need some help...
[10:47] <umop-apsidn> Jordan_U: possibly, i'm not very familiar with the command line
[10:47] <lakcaj> akos, where domainname is the domain the machines belong to
[10:47] <sotec_prod> Anyone tried a ps2 controller with Ubuntu?
[10:47] <pete83> guevara: a psychologist?
[10:47] <guevara> when i start my pc... grub stops and output me error 25
[10:47] <umop-apsidn> i want to do some optimization, i'm sure i'm loading modules i don't need to, but i don't know where to look to verify, much less fix it
[10:47] <guevara> pete83..xD
[10:47] <Pricey> sotec_prod, how on earth do you think you would plug it in? The ps2 controllers don't have  astandard connection?
[10:48] <umop-apsidn> Pricey: perhaps into the playstation itself?
[10:48] <wesolek> does anybody know which file to alter to set the right ports (or check the existent ones) in bittorrent?
[10:48] <bluefox83> !flv
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Jowi> s_v_e_n, mingetty perhaps
[10:48] <guevara> i just wanna deleted the grub or modified to start with windows...but i cann't
[10:48] <sotec_prod> Pricey, I'm watching a ps2 to usb converter on ebay currently. it is possible, i just want to know if there are any extra drivers or software required.
[10:48] <bluefox83> dang...does anyone know of a good link to guide you through downloading flash movies and converting them to avi ?
[10:48] <eugman> 2A2A2AI want to replace the DSC_ in the file names of a bunch of images with EXP_ how do I do that with some commandline voodoo?
[10:49] <lakcaj> umop-apsidn, lsmod will list all the modules that are loaded
[10:49] <akos> lakcaj, no, I only have a workgroup
[10:49] <akos> no domains
[10:49] <Pricey> sotec_prod, ok right... I am unsure. I know the xbox 360 controllers work fine... have you ggogled at all?
[10:49] <eugman> hmmm, that 2a2a2a shouldn't be there
[10:49] <locoooo> Hey guys, a wierd network problem, I can ping websites fine, but I can't surf to the sites in a browswer, any ideas?????
[10:49] <umop-apsidn> lakcaj: and once i find out what i'm running, how do i edit that?
[10:49] <Jordan_U> guevara: Do you want to be able to boot linux at all or are you just trying to restore windows?
[10:49] <sotec_prod> Of course I've googled it.
[10:49] <sotec_prod> i can't find a solid answer
[10:49] <sotec_prod> usually live people are the best to ask
[10:50] <Jordan_U> sotec_prod: I would be verry surpriesed if it didn't just work
[10:50] <guevara> jordan_u restore windows... the problem is that i don't want to deleted my windows... i have some informations, works, etc
[10:50] <lakcaj> umop-apsidn, a lot of modules are loaded dynamically now.
[10:50] <s_v_e_n> @jowi: I dont have a inittab to start mingetty
[10:50] <T-Connect> Man. This still slow.
[10:50] <pete83> guevara: see http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html#25
[10:50] <Jowi> s_v_e_n, otherwise slim ( http://slim.berlios.de/index.php ) is very low on resources but not sure if it support autologin...
[10:50] <umop-apsidn> lakcaj: great, so i can turn them off, right? where do i look for that?
[10:51] <orbisvicis> torcs ./configre cant find libX11, but its there. Should i tweak some path variable ?
[10:51] <umop-apsidn> lakcaj: as a specific example, i have a wacom tablet  loaded in here, for some odd reason - and i don't even own any wacom products
[10:51] <lakcaj> umop-apsidn, you can look at /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:51] <sotec_prod> umop, Ubuntu is fastly becoming the next big bloat...
[10:51] <Jordan_U> guevara: To delete grub and restore the windows bootloader use a windows install CD and run fixmbr from the recovery console
[10:51] <Ahadiel> Would a "Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG" work with Ubuntu? (Anyone have any previous experience?)
[10:51] <sotec_prod> does anyone know anyone that owns a wacom tablet?
[10:51] <jeff_> why is it, that every time i log out and then back in, my resolution changes back to 1024x768? i have to use the nvidia configuration tool to change it back to 1280 every time i reboot
[10:52] <Jordan_U> Ahadiel: Yes
[10:52] <sotec_prod> i mean, it would be awesome to own one. i want one
[10:52] <Ahadiel> Jordan_U: Thanks :)
[10:52] <umop-apsidn> lakcaj: aha, thank you
[10:52] <sotec_prod> but i don't need the module loaded into the kernel if i don't have it.
[10:52] <sotec_prod> reminds me of....oh right, windows. :|
[10:52] <pete83> jeff_: couldn't you add the tool into your startup programs?
[10:52] <AngryPenguin> jeff, set your resolution in your xorg file
[10:52] <speedo_> Ahadiel: the support is built into the kernel
[10:53] <brainiac8008> hi.  I have a dual boot of Ubuntu 7.04 and Windows XP.  Sometimes, when I start up my computer, GRUB appears, and I select the Ubuntu boot option, it doesn't say in the top left, "Starting Up... Loading...Please Wait..."  Ubuntu then starts up as normal until my desktop comes up.  The wireless internet program doesn't connect to the internet automatically like I set it to and my sticky notes don't come up.  If I 
[10:53] <jeff_> i know how to open my xorg file and edit it. but where do i change/add something
[10:53] <sotec_prod> not to abate Ubuntu, because it is far and wide the best OS i've ever used.
[10:53] <Jordan_U> Ahadiel: Intel has great linux support
[10:53] <Ahadiel> Jordan_U: :) k
[10:53] <sotec_prod> infact, i want to modchip my PS2 and install linux on that
[10:53] <sotec_prod> :D
[10:53] <orbisvicis> nvrmind, simply configure option
[10:53] <AngryPenguin> jeff, should be in the monitor section
[10:53] <obf213> yeah i tried to change a link i created and i did in terminal and it said it was correct
[10:53] <AngryPenguin> you will see a bunch of resolution settings
[10:54] <sotec_prod> void my warranty right to hell
[10:54] <kitche> sotec_prod: don't even have to modchip it to install linux get the linux install kit for it
[10:54] <obf213> but when i look at the file, it still says its is linked to a different file that doesnt exist
[10:54] <obf213> thats why i changed it...
[10:54] <sotec_prod> kitche, oh nice
[10:54] <sotec_prod> :)
[10:54] <wesolek> does anybody know how to change UCP/TCP ports in bittorrent?
[10:54] <sotec_prod> so PS2 reads cdr's or dvdrs?
[10:54] <lakcaj> akos, sorry, I don't know the solution to your issue
[10:54] <jeff_> ok i see those resolutions, what do i do just add in 1280x1024?
[10:54] <napster_> plz can some1 help me?
[10:54] <guevara> Jordan_U but i can deleted it by another way.. i don't have to install win cd...:-P
[10:54] <akos> lakcaj, ok thx
[10:55] <jeff_> its okay to just throw that in there?
[10:55] <Anlar> Ahadiel: 3945abg is what for instance I am using at this moment and it's perhaps the best wlan chipset around :) if you buy a laptop that is Intel all the way (display adapter, wlan, disk controller, sound chip, usb controller, ..) it will just simply work and usually out of the box
[10:55] <HHP2K> Does anyone know how to edit advanced mouse properties? My mouse buttons are doing different things and I don't know how to fix it.
[10:55] <pete83> jeff_: yeah, just follow the same format as the other entries
[10:55] <obf213> anyone know why the link didnt change.
[10:55] <raziekiel> I have a windows box as my file server, and I have the partitions mounted, when I open them in linux it's "smb:name@computer" but how do I get to them through command line?
[10:55] <AngryPenguin> make sure its present in the 24 depth section jeff
[10:55] <sotec_prod> HHP2K, i have the same problem with my Logi G5. my scrollwheel toggles are backward and i don't know how to fix it
[10:56] <AngryPenguin> or whatever section your screen depth is set to
[10:56] <sotec_prod> i tried switching the numbers in the xorg.conf section, and to no avail...
[10:56] <HHP2K> sotec_prod: My scrollwheel navigates pages in Firefox back and forth. :( It's very inconvenient.
[10:56] <MikeRotch> raziekiel from what i have heard you can not access linux partition from windows... but i am very new
[10:56] <MikeRotch> sorry if that is misinformation
[10:56] <napster_> I am in dire need of help. PLZ some1 help me? PLZ PLZ PLZ!!!
[10:56] <jeff_> thanks much, testing it brb
[10:56] <pete83> jeff_: and if it says "Defaultdepth 24", then make sure to enter your resolution in that section
[10:56] <raziekiel> MikeRotch,  Not linux form windows, windows form linux
[10:56] <sotec_prod> HHP2K, my toggles do that. you need to change the ZAxisMapping option in xorg.conf
[10:56] <HugLeo> hi
[10:56] <sotec_prod> one sec, i'll show you my xorg
[10:57] <foey> hello, anyone know of a decent dock program?
[10:57] <`eric-> kiba-dock
[10:57] <ladydoor> !ask|napster
[10:57] <ubotu> napster: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:57] <AngryPenguin> awm
[10:57] <s_v_e_n> @raziekel: there is a ext2 filemanager fpr xin-XP
[10:57] <Scunizi> raziekiel, you can access linux partitions with windows using the appropriate driver. Your linux partitions have to be ext3 formatted.
[10:57] <`eric-> hey, anyone have any experience with svideo out and nvidia..? I'm having some wierd issues...
[10:57] <HHP2K> sotec_prod: Oh, okay. I'll try that, thanks
[10:57] <HugLeo> ubotu: Is you the boot?
[10:57] <AngryPenguin> foey, awm
[10:57] <Justi1> what program can I use to record what is happening on the screen and post it on youtube or something?
[10:57] <raziekiel> Scunizi I'm in linux, trying to access my windows partitions
[10:57] <JohnsonsWhatever> dr_willis: Picasso or digiKam best!? :)
[10:57] <anmar> hey guys. I have an MD5 problem with the bcm43xx-fwcutter.
[10:57] <JohnsonsWhatever> Picasso or digiKam best!?
[10:58] <JohnsonsWhatever> Anyone
[10:58] <JohnsonsWhatever> What is teh best!+ :O
[10:58] <sotec_prod> HHP2K, http://pastebin.com/m6c0d2d35
[10:58] <Scunizi> raziekiel, are they ntfs in windows? or fat32?
[10:58] <raziekiel> NTFS
[10:58] <worzel>  /serever 72.20.58.137
[10:58] <sotec_prod> raziekiel, be careful with that. I fried a very important 80gb windows drive doing that...
[10:59] <Ahadiel> is the "NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150" any good for beryl/compiz fusion? I notice many HP laptops come with it.
[10:59] <T-Connect> XChat recommand ports?
[10:59] <jussi01> Ahadiel: it should work
[10:59] <Justi1> what program can I use to record what is happening on the screen and post it on youtube or something?
[10:59] <raziekiel> sotec_prod,  I'm just trying to use the find command to help me sort my music, but I don't know what the path is for my windows partitions
[10:59] <Scunizi> raziekiel, depending on your version of linux, you'll always be able to read files and copy from win to lin. To write to ntfs also requires the right driver. /etc/fstab has to be configured correctly to read ntfs.
[10:59] <AngryPenguin> beryl does work on an nvidia 6150\
[11:00] <Ahadiel> jussi01: Do you know how it is compared to the GMA 950?
[11:00] <Scunizi> !mount | raziekiel
[11:00] <HHP2K> sotec_prod: Thanks so much :)
[11:00] <ubotu> raziekiel: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:00] <AngryPenguin> better
[11:00] <raziekiel> scunizi I can get to the partitions fine through a gui, I just don't know how to do it through command line. I don't know what path
[11:00] <guevara> can i modified a grub by a ubuntu cd live?
[11:00] <sotec_prod> raziekiel, just don't move anything on your windows partitions. at all. i moved a video using linux, and it killed my hdd.
[11:00] <jussi01> Ahadiel: no
[11:00] <sotec_prod> HPP2K, you're welcome. let me know if that works
[11:00] <Ahadiel> Well, does anyone know how the NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 is compared to the Intel GMA950?
[11:00] <AngryPenguin> Ahadiel: the nvidia chipset is better
[11:00] <T-Connect> Screw XChat then.
[11:00] <sotec_prod> HPP2K, also, you need to find out what your mouse device is actually called before you add that into the section
[11:01] <Scunizi> raziekiel, ah.. ok... most things are mounted in /media/xxx.  xxx representing the file name of the drive or directory. Do you only have one drive and is it ide or sata?
[11:01] <T-Connect> >(
[11:01] <Jowi> !scraancast | Justi1
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scraancast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <Jowi> !screencast | Justi1
[11:01] <ubotu> Justi1: Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[11:01] <sotec_prod> one sec, i'll find that for you
[11:01] <AngryPenguin> you can also screencast with ffmpeg
[11:01] <wesolek> aybody here that know a bit about setting in bittorrent?
[11:01] <jeff_> thanks it worked great... now if i could just add beryl manager to my startup prgrams id be good to go
[11:01] <jeff_> im using linux mint btw
[11:01] <wesolek> *knoes
[11:01] <wesolek> *knows
[11:02] <AngryPenguin> jeff: go to sessions
[11:02] <Jordan_U_> jeff_, System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[11:02] <pete83> jeff_: click system>>preferences>>sessions
[11:02] <AngryPenguin> under preferences
[11:02] <AngryPenguin> ya
[11:02] <jeff_> im using xfce, not gnome :/
[11:02] <raziekiel> Scunizi: In my linux comp, I have one SATA drive. /media/sda1
[11:02] <T-Connect> Don't use the crappy XChat people
[11:02] <napster_> can any1 help me?
[11:02] <jeff_> its not the same in xfce huh
[11:02] <larson9999> xchat is fine
[11:03] <ph4mp573r> !sourgrapes | T-Connect
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourgrapes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <T-Connect> XChat isn't fine with DCC
[11:03] <Ahadiel> Could anyone give me a link to the page where it shows what nVidia cards are supported under the Linux driver?
[11:03] <AngryPenguin> screencast in ubuntu: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/06/08/how-to-create-a-screencast-in-ubuntu/
[11:03] <Scunizi> raziekiel, ok.. if you have win and linux installed on the same drive you'll have different partitions.  If win was the first that was installed it usually is in /media/sda1.. linux will be in /media sda2,3,4,5 etc. depending.
[11:03] <sotec_prod> HPP2K, cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
[11:03] <clouder> If I set timeout = 0 in /boot/grub/menu.lst will it wait for ever or boot instantly.  I want it to wait until I choose something
[11:03] <kitche> T-Connect: nothing fine with DCC
[11:04] <sotec_prod> type that into your Term
[11:04] <ikonia> clouder: it boots straight away
[11:04] <Anlar> Ahadiel: everything except ancient (pre-2001 etc) and the newest couple cards (VERY high-end) AND some of the laptop ultra-cheapo models like X200 (they usually work.. or then not.. mileage varies)
[11:04] <Jordan_U_> jeff_, This may not be the easiest way but: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Autostart_Programs#XFCE4
[11:04] <HHP2K> sotec_prod: I put those values into where it had it on the pstebin you gave me, that same entry is my mouse. What else needs to be changed?
[11:04] <T-Connect> DCC is faster on mIRC UPP and it better.
[11:04] <kitche> T-Connect: of course it's setup correctly
[11:04] <raziekiel> Scunizi, windows is on a different computer. This computer just has linux, but I have a second computer that I store my music etc on, which runs windows 2000. I'm trying to use the find command to search the windows machine from my linux box, but I don't know the path
[11:04] <sotec_prod> HPP2K, pm me
[11:04] <Anlar> Ahadiel: if it's good middle range card it's good.. other than that you are often screwed :) but that's not what they will say officially :)
[11:04] <pete83> Jeff_: what's in the ~/.config/autostart/ folder?
[11:04] <RedLink> Is it possible to dual boot Ubunto using a ICH8 raid configuration?
[11:05] <clouder> ikonia: thanks, I guess I'll try 9999 see how that works
[11:05] <T-Connect> I send you the snapshot -> http://img478.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshoten8.png
[11:05] <kitche> T-Connect: but mirc has problems also I found out
[11:05] <napster_> PLZ!!!
[11:05] <T-Connect> mIRC is fine. XCHat isn't.
[11:05] <Ahadiel> Anlar: Ah kay, so ultimately which would give better preformance? nVidia or Intel? (GMA950 vs NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS)
[11:06] <raziekiel> Scunizi, the command I'm trying to figure out is this "find /home/dir -size -5M -type d -delete" but instead of /home/dir I need to put in the path to my server's music folder
[11:06] <RedLink> I've got a raid 0 partition done by Windows, but I saved 150gb for Ubuntu but I just find the two harddrivers I use for the raid 0 partition
[11:06] <eddie> Anyone got any experiance with Libcurl + C++?
[11:06] <Scunizi> raziekiel, I must have come into your question late.. I didn't catch that in the beginning. I'm not sure how to guide you in the command line for that.  I can do it via gui. Usually another computer is //server-name/path
[11:06] <Anlar> Ahadiel: 8400 is mighty card :) it's good for games.. but if you're not much into gaming, always go for intel :)
[11:06] <Jordan_U_> Ahadiel, Probably the Nvidia card but the intel card should be given some extra points for having open source drivers
[11:06] <Jowi> napster_, ask a question and be precise in your description.
[11:06] <aoeuhtns> anyone know what I can run from the command line to put my laptop in standby (i.e. from a virtual console, not under X)
[11:07] <raziekiel> Scunizi, Yeah, I know how to do it in gui too, but I can't figure out the CL way. Thanks anyway! =D
[11:07] <IntuitiveNipple> raziekiel: mount the remote windows directory using smbmount, then search it as part of your local file-system
[11:07] <Jordan_U_> Ahadiel, And therefore being the first to support new things like AIGLX ( Compiz / Beryl )
[11:07] <Scunizi> raziekiel, sure.. wish I could help more.. I haven't tackled that one yet.
[11:07] <napster_> k. i need to get my tv tuner working but ihave not a clue wat 2 do. it is a lifeview with a conexant chipset
[11:07] <Ahadiel> Jordan_U: yeah, the only game I play is WoW
[11:07] <sotec_prod> HHP2K, check your pm
[11:07] <napster_> can some1 help?
[11:07] <Ahadiel> Could the intel GMA950 possibly support that?
[11:07] <raziekiel> IntuitiveNipple, I'll try that out! Thanks
[11:07] <Scunizi> raziekiel, why not just try with the ip?
[11:08] <Anlar> aoeuhtns: I thing you have to "cat /proc/acpi/sleep" and then echo into it something from that list.. and it WILL happen instantly without any warnings etc :)
[11:08] <sotec_prod> HHP2K, are you still there?
[11:08] <Anlar> Ahadiel: if you really want an honest answer, wow is kinda heavy and gma950 is not really fit for game like wow.. it woudl run but it's not really enjoyable..
[11:08] <RedLink> Anyone know if its possible to Dual boot Ubuntu using a raid 0 (ICH8, Asus P5B Deluxe) conf? As it is now I can only find the two harddrivers and not the raid0 conf (I'm writing this using the installation CD so please give me some slack =)
[11:08] <pete83> jeff_: i think you just put an executable script in the ~/.config/autostart/ folder
[11:08] <IntuitiveNipple> raziekiel: look at section 5.2... http://www.linux-tutorial.info/modules.php?name=Howto&pagename=Intranet-Server-HOWTO/Intranet-Server-HOWTO-5.html
[11:09] <aoeuhtns> Anlar, thanks I'll check it out
[11:09] <Jowi> !tv | napster_ (I don't have a tv card but maybe this can help you getting started)
[11:09] <ubotu> napster_ (I don't have a tv card but maybe this can help you getting started): http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[11:09] <raziekiel> IntuitiveNipple, Thanks a bunch!!
[11:09] <Anlar> RedLink: that's hard question, might be that ich8 and that semi-hardware raid isn't a good combination at this moment...
[11:10] <T-Connect> What ports are the best on XChat?
[11:10] <T-Connect> Maybe I'm using bad ports
[11:10] <dr_willis> T-Connect,  Huh? you mean the irc server ports?
[11:10] <kitche> T-Connect: whatever your router is setup to use
[11:10] <Anlar> aoeuhtns: perhaps it's just the numer of the S state that you want to echo there.. S3 is the suspend mode I usually use
[11:10] <Jordan_U_> T-Connect, I use 8001
 Yep. You're slow.
[11:11] <guevara> i need some help with my grub
[11:11] <guevara> can i modified my grub that is install on hda for start with windows by a live ubuntu cd?
[11:11] <RedLink> Well performance vise its a good combo, but I've had a lot of problems installing it on Vista too
[11:11] <T-Connect> 1024 port is setup on Linksys
[11:11] <T-Connect> It open
[11:11] <T-Connect> It shouldn't be doing that
[11:12] <buzz_> Uhm.... No Firewire Networking working in Ubuntu? :(
[11:12] <T-Connect> Download is under 3.0kb
[11:12] <Justi1> when I try to install sauerbraten, I get the following error: justin@JustinJones:~/Desktop/sauerbraten$ ./sauerbraten_unix
[11:12] <Justi1> ./bin_unix/linux_client: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:12] <Justi1> can anyone help?
[11:13] <RedLink> Anlar: I'm currently running the x64 version, is there a better chance that ICH8 RAID works on the x86 version?
[11:13] <Jordan_U_> buzz_, http://www.linux1394.org/eth1394.php
[11:13] <T-Connect> What that other irc?
[11:13] <T-Connect> I forgot
[11:13] <doom_ster> hello
[11:14] <Jowi> Justi1, missing library. to find it type "apt-cache search -n sdl mixer". you will probably get the correct library to install. type "sudo apt-get install libsdl-mixer....whateveristhecorrectresult" to install it
[11:14] <Justi1> jowi: thanks
[11:14] <doom_ster> can i use gparted live cd to resize a partition without oosing any data from it? (add some free space)
[11:14] <Jordan_U_> RedKrieg, I doubt that 32v64 bit would make a difference with RAID, but I don't know for sure
[11:14] <Jordan_U_> doom_ster, Yes, but you should always backup
[11:15] <doom_ster> yes of course:)
[11:15] <RedLink> damn I wanted to run Ubuntu on my deskt comp, I've got Debian running on my server and I love it =((
[11:15] <raziekiel> IntuitiveNipple. When I run the " smbmount //Teapot/Dump2 /mnt/Dump2 -n" command, it says "Could not resolve mount point /mnt/Dump2"
[11:15] <guevara> can i modified grub to start windows from a live cd ubuntu?
[11:15] <Matic`Makovec> Okay, it seems my "control-a" cmmand (which is for select all of course) is somehow gone. Any ideas where or what to check what the hell is wrong?
[11:16] <nemik> does anyone have a thinkpad t61 and has all the nonworking crap with it been fixed? (4595 wifi, alsa, etc)?
[11:16] <T-Connect> Bye. I guest I will find that other irc and reinstall it. XChat DCC isn't working right.
[11:16] <Jordan_U_> nemik, What chipset is it? We may be able to help if you give us some info.
[11:17] <Justi1> what can I press to minimize fullscreen applications and games?
[11:17] <aoeuhtns> Anlar, it looks like for the 2.6 kernel, /sys/power/state should be used
[11:17] <whazilla> RE: how doi i fit fiesty on a MS pro duo 4Gb ?
[11:17] <aoeuhtns> I just tried echo -n mem > /sys/power/state and it worked
[11:17] <whazilla> usb mem stick ?
[11:18] <whazilla> fiesty on ms stick ?
[11:18] <whazilla> installed ?
[11:18] <Jordan_U_> whazilla, You can use the compressed LiveCD image to make a Live Drive
[11:18] <whazilla> with write acces ?
[11:18] <whazilla> can i install packages ?
[11:19] <whazilla> allso id allso love this on ps3
[11:19] <vox754> !enter | whazilla
[11:19] <ubotu> whazilla: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:19] <Jordan_U_> whazilla, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[11:19] <gamerfreak> will apt-get only work on debian based distros?
[11:20] <dr_willis> apt is common to debian based systems....
[11:20] <dr_willis> others may use different package manager systems. rpm, portage, ect.
[11:20] <HHP2K> Hey guys, I still have that misconfigured mouse buttons problems.. anyone else care to help me out?
[11:20] <Jordan_U_> gamerfreak, There are some strange exceptions but generally yes
[11:20] <NoobSauce> For some reason, my xsession file does not work... I set a couple commands in .xsession, but it does not run on startup. I have write permission for it, and it works fine if I run it manually (./.xsession)... Anyone know what's wrong?
[11:20] <Matic`Makovec> Okay, it seems my "ctrl-a" cmmand (which is for select all of course) is somehow gone. Any ideas where or what to check what the hell is wrong?
[11:21] <eugman> Anyone know anything equivalent to the  'rename' program? It's taking too long.
[11:21] <noodles12> i'm trying to run kismet but it says it isn't picking up any networks. I changed the source to ipw3945,eth1,Intel   . Why wont' it detect anything?
[11:21] <obf213> anyone in here know anything about getting OO writer to stop thinking of words you want to type
[11:22] <Jowi> Matic`Makovec, in one app or several?
[11:22] <Jordan_U_> eugman, mv ?
[11:22] <Matic`Makovec> Only one it seems Jowi. And that one is this dear xchat
[11:22] <hypa7ia> obf213: that's autocompletion, you can turn it off in preferences
[11:23] <eugman> Jordan_U_ , I'm hoping to rename a batch of files to have a different prefix so they don't conflict with identically named ones.
[11:23] <napster_> how can i check if my tv tuner is compatible with ubuntu?
[11:23] <Jowi> Matic`Makovec, restart xchat and see if it fixes itself....?
[11:23] <HHP2K> Hey guys, I still have that misconfigured mouse buttons problems.. anyone else care to help me out?
[11:23] <Jordan_U_> !hardware | napster_
[11:23] <ubotu> napster_: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:23] <Matic`Makovec> Yeh, we shall see
[11:24] <Matic`Makovec> Thanks :o
[11:25] <bmk789> can anyone help me setup LVM?
[11:25] <adrian_> hi
[11:26] <Scunizi> eugman, as in "mv file.name prefix*.extension"  test first before ruining everything
[11:26] <IntuitiveNipple> raziekiel: Have you created the local mount directory with mkdir first?
[11:26] <adrian_> how can be changed the key assotiations to remote control keys of the ir_common module
[11:26] <adrian_> how can be changed the key assotiations to remote control keys of the ir_common module?
[11:26] <Jordan_U_> eugman, Do they all start with the same letters? Can you tell me more about the problem?
[11:26] <napster_> my computer is not picking up my tv tuner. how can i get it 2 find it?
[11:28] <mOrO^> kudos to those who help in here, Im a new user and Ive learned quite a bit in here.
[11:28] <slackbr_> Hi folks, how can I install xfce on Ubuntu 6 ??
[11:29] <Kevin11919> hi..
[11:29] <Megaqwerty> slackbr_: does sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop work for you?
[11:29] <Jordan_U_> slackbr_, install xubuntu-desktop
[11:29] <ge2x> i have just installed kubuntu-desktop and how do i remove ubuntu-desktop?
[11:29] <juan> does anibody know wich is the command in console for hibernate???
[11:29] <HHP2K> Hey guys, I still have that misconfigured mouse buttons problems.. anyone else care to help me out?
[11:29] <Kevin11919> anyone here know how to install a DVB-s card on ubuntu with the saa7134 module..
[11:29] <Phocion> hey all...when I try to install something in Synaptic I get the following error:
[11:29] <Phocion> E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[11:29] <Phocion> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[11:29] <slackbr_> Megaqwerty Is not really for me I will ask to my friend one second
[11:30] <Megaqwerty> slackbr_: cool.
[11:30] <Jordan_U_> ge2x, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[11:30] <ge2x> i have just installed kubuntu-desktop and how do i remove ubuntu-desktop?
[11:30] <Phocion> any ideas how to fix?
[11:30] <ge2x> thnx
[11:30] <Jordan_U_> ge2x, np
[11:30] <Megaqwerty> Phocion: you need to stop any programs that are installing stuff, or updating
[11:30] <phisher1> hey
[11:30] <ziro01> Hi
[11:30] <Megaqwerty> Phocion: then it will work
[11:30] <Phocion> Megaqwerty, everything is.....i rebooted
[11:30] <Megaqwerty> Phocion: oh, didn't read the whole thing :-\
[11:31] <Phocion> yea i figured something had it locked
[11:31] <Kevin11919> any kaffeine DVB-s experts?
[11:31] <Phocion> but i rebooted....same thing :(
[11:31] <teer2> Hi - I am going to start troubleshooting why Ubuntu is not working to "Suspend" on my desktop.  I know the hardware feature is called ACPI, but I'm not sure what subcomponents in Ubuntu that I should be tracking down.
[11:31] <Megaqwerty> Phocion: you need to run:
[11:31] <Megaqwerty> sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[11:31] <angasule> is there a games-related channel for ubuntu? I want to set up a gameport joystick
[11:31] <adrian_> how can be changed the key assotiations to remote control keys of the ir_common module?
[11:31] <phisher1> I'll find out
[11:31] <Phocion> Megaqwerty, any idea how it got removed in the first place?
[11:31] <ziro01> not sure
[11:31] <Megaqwerty> Phocion: according to the error, it's missing. Go figure.
[11:32] <Megaqwerty> Phocion: I have no idea how that could have happened.
[11:32] <Phocion> yea its weird
[11:32] <scoobydoo28139> someone got a link to a page that i can learn comand line how-too ? ubuntu?
[11:32] <Jordan_U_> Phocion, Just going off the error, you might try "sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial"
[11:32] <Jowi> Phocion, use the -p switch with mkdir in case it's parent dirs are missing as well
[11:32] <Phocion> Jordan_U_, yep that did the trick
[11:32] <Megaqwerty>  !bash | scoobydoo28139
[11:33] <ubotu> scoobydoo28139: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:33] <Phocion> alrighty lemm see
[11:33] <Fir3Ligth> hello
[11:33] <Kevin11919> anyone hear every setup a LifeView DVB card on ubuntu..
[11:33] <Phocion> no idea how everything got deleted like that
[11:33] <Jordan_U_> nick Jordan_U
[11:33] <Jordan_U> :)
[11:33] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hey folks
[11:33] <kersinc> ubuntu en espaol
[11:33] <Jordan_U> !es | kersinc
[11:33] <ubotu> kersinc: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:33] <angasule> !es
[11:34] <Phocion> welp guys......looks like it worked :)
[11:34] <Megaqwerty> Phocion: glad we could help
[11:34] <angasule> teer2: stalking me? ;)
[11:34] <miles800> I am trying to teach myself some shell scripting, and am trying to figure out command substitution.  Reading an example.  I tried create a txt file with two file names in it.  I then ran:  rm 'cat filename.txt'   . I thought this would delete the files, but instead it outputs rm: can not remove 'cat filename.txt' no such file/directory.  What concept am I missing?
[11:34] <Phocion> thanks all
[11:34] <Megaqwerty> Phocion: really weird though
[11:34] <HHP2K>  Hey guys, I still have that misconfigured mouse buttons problems.. anyone else care to help me out?
[11:34] <angasule> miles800: try `` instead of ''
[11:34] <Phocion> I'll prolly screw it up again.......playing around with UMPC Moblin
[11:34] <Jordan_U> miles800, ` instead of '
[11:34] <angasule> miles800: still, dunno if that works, I'm no good with bash scripting :)
[11:35] <Kevin11919> linuxtv?
[11:35] <slackbr_> Megaqwerty he said sudo aptitude install shows: Try `apt-get -f install' without a package.
[11:35] <Megaqwerty> slackbr_: sounds like something is broken
[11:35] <slackbr_> cant find the dependencie
[11:35] <Jordan_U> miles800, I would use rm -i though, so you don't accidentally do something you might regret :)
[11:35] <miles800> No, that was it.  Thanks guys!
[11:35] <Megaqwerty> slackbr_: run that command as suggested
[11:35] <gamerfreak> My sound is not working on my Acer Aspire 3050 notebook with ubuntu (2.6.20-16)....what can I do about it?
[11:35] <mharris> hey i have a new external hd. -- it gets recognized when plugged in but says i dont have permissions when I try to copy files to it
[11:36] <mharris> how to fix?
[11:36] <Dj-avu> hi i have some problem, if i run squid show some msg please set visible_hostname
[11:36] <Dj-avu> how to fix this problem?
[11:36] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> so i am running 6.10 and i am trying to record my desktop and i cant find it.. anyone have an idea?
[11:36] <miles800> Well, is just for learning, just files I created with touch
[11:36] <MrTsunami> mharris: how is it formatted? ext3? ntfs?
[11:37] <mharris> hmm
[11:37] <mharris> i just copied windows files onto oit
[11:37] <Kevin11919> saa7134-dvb help? {anyone}...
[11:37] <mharris> going windows free after all files needed are on it ;)
[11:37] <Megaqwerty> miles800: http://bashscripts.org/viewforum.php?f=15 (read the "sticky" topics)
[11:37] <slackbr_> Megaqwerty ok tks
[11:37] <Megaqwerty> miles800: they're some good bash scripting tutorials
[11:37] <Punkunity> im having problems playing my first person shooter games like tremulous, they wont start
[11:38] <Megaqwerty> slackbr_: you guys get xfce running?
[11:38] <Megaqwerty> slackbr_: (or...downloading ;) )
[11:38] <mharris> i tried to change the permissions but nautilus is saying its a read only disk
[11:38] <AndreSilva> Megaqwerty: I am with slackbr_ and the message after typing sudo apt-get install -f  was:  preciso fazer o download de 2269kB/18,5MB de arquivos. (which means Its needed to dowload 2269/18,5 of files) I just can't download...
[11:38] <recon> I just installed a new video card over my integrated, and all hell just broke loose.
[11:38] <Kevin11919> sudo nautilus..
[11:38] <Jordan_U> !gksudo > Kevin11919
[11:39] <Megaqwerty> AndreSilva: Why can't you download it? No network connection?
[11:39] <fubbleskag> i can't get ubuntu (or anything for that matter) to run on the wife's pc unless we disable her nvidia card via the bios. mine works fine, and my card is older than hers. is this a known issue i can get info on?
[11:39] <Kevin11919> "gksudo" doesnt work for me >jordan_U
[11:39] <Punkunity> i have installed tremulious and a gamer called Nexiuz, and LXDoom Shoot em up, all dont start
[11:39] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> can anyone help me?
[11:39] <Punkunity> they just make the screen look all big
[11:39] <miles800> Megaqwerty: Thanks, I will keep that in mind.  Right now I am going through Sam's Shell Scripting, I just did not see the difference between   ` and '
[11:40] <Jordan_U> Kevin11919, In what way does it not work?
[11:40] <mharris> i cant even find the external hd on my filesystem, even though an icon shows up on my desktop
[11:40] <AndreSilva> Megaqwerty: I got this error message: E: Impossvel pegar alguns arquivos, talvez rodar apt-get update ou tentar com --fix-missing? (which means Its impossible to download some files, try to run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing)
[11:40] <Megaqwerty> miles800: ah, yeah. Took me a bit to notice when I was starting out too.
[11:40] <Gasten> hi there! if I do cat * |grep foo, I will get all lines with foo in them. is there a way to make cat output which file each line belongs to?
[11:40] <adrian_> how can be changed the key assotiations to remote control keys of the ir_common module?
[11:41] <Scunizi> mharris, what happens when you double click the desktop icon?
[11:41] <Megaqwerty> AndreSilva: that's kind of odd. I guess you should run sudo apt-get update to update your list of packages, which should allow ubuntu to download them from the correct places.
[11:41] <recon> I just installed a new video card (a radeon...er, something) and when I try to start ubuntu, the progress bar loads up to the point it starts GDM, then the screen turns black and it freezes.
[11:41] <miles800> I'm out, thanks for the help guys!
[11:41] <mharris> nautilus opens up
[11:41] <Anlar> Gasten: I think grep itself can do that for you somehow, no need for the "cat" at all
[11:41] <Gasten> Anlar: How?
[11:41] <AndreSilva> Megaqwerty: I've done it before and nothing happens
[11:41] <Scunizi> !chmod | mharris
[11:41] <ubotu> mharris: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[11:41] <Anlar> Gasten: grep -H and something else.. man grep to learn
[11:41] <mharris> the only thing in /mnt is win_c
[11:42] <Gasten> Anlar: wait, I found it!
[11:42] <Gasten> Anlar: grep * foo does the trick.
[11:42] <Megaqwerty> AndreSilva: do you mind if we move into a private chat so we don't flood the channel with output?
[11:42] <mharris> what do you mean scunizi?
[11:42] <NoobSauce> /eit
[11:42] <mharris> (!chmod) | mharris
[11:42] <NoobSauce> /exit
[11:42] <AndreSilva> Megaqwerty: I think its better yeah
[11:42] <Gasten> erh... grep foo *
[11:42] <Scunizi> mharris, might be in /media.  If you have permission problems .. ie you can't write to it you'll need to change the permissions with chmod.
[11:42] <Kevin11919> anyone knows any chat that deals with DVB-s / saa7134/ linuxtv off hand...???
[11:43] <Jowi> Adrian, depends on what you actually mean. if you want to change "KEY_MENU" to "MENU" you do it in /etc/lirc/lircd.conf. if you want to change what the button do when you press it you edit ~/.lircrc
[11:43] <Adrian> :)
[11:43] <mharris> hmm doesnt appear to be permissions
[11:43] <mharris> saying its a read only filesystem
[11:43] <mharris> i bet because its ntfs
[11:43] <mharris> what can i do in this case/
[11:44] <adrian_> how can be changed the key assotiations to remote control keys of the ir_common module?
[11:44] <mharris> im trying to preserve my working xorg.config before I reinstall linux over entire disk
[11:44] <Jordan_U> mharris, NTFS does not support Unix permissions
[11:44] <alper> hey guy, how can I open my C: and D: drives enabled to write on from ubuntu?
[11:44] <vox754> !enter | mharris
[11:44] <ubotu> mharris: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:44] <Scunizi> mharris, type sudo fdisk -l in a terminal window and it will list all your drives and the file systems. It's a good check.
[11:44] <Jowi> adrian_, (sorry Adrian ) depends on what you actually mean. if you want to change "KEY_MENU" to "MENU" you do it in /etc/lirc/lircd.conf. if you want to change what the button do when you press it you edit ~/.lircrc
[11:44] <Jordan_U> mharris, But the problem you are having is most likely that you need ntfs-3g to mount it rw
[11:45] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g > mharris
[11:45] <Adrian> Jowi ;)
[11:45] <mharris> hmm
[11:45] <recon> I just installed a new video card (a radeon...er, something) and when I try to start ubuntu, the progress bar loads up to the point it starts GDM, then the screen turns black and it freezes. Unfortunatly, I'm in recovery text-only mode now. The same exact thing happens with the Install LiveCD. Oddly, it works on the Windows Vista partition (don't ask why I have it, please oh god don't ask.)
[11:45] <adrian_> i can't be able to enable lirc
[11:45] <Scunizi> mharris, if it is ntfs and you're going away from windows, you might be better off reformatting the drive to ext3
[11:45] <Jordan_U> mharris, Or rather ntfs-config which will setup ntfs-3g
[11:46] <fubbleskag> i can't get ubuntu (or anything for that matter) to run on the wife's pc unless we disable her nvidia card via the bios. mine works fine, and my card is older than hers. is this a known issue i can get info on?
[11:46] <mharris> well there are a whole bunch of files on my windows partition which I need to preserve
[11:46] <adrian_> But the kernell's ir_common works with my remote
[11:46] <madman91> IS IT possible to install a package locally? with aptitude or something.. to install a package into a directory in the home directory
[11:46] <faceman2209> Question: How does one set a program to launch at start up? EG: Beryl
[11:46] <madman91> so it is only available to one user
[11:46] <alper> does anyone know know how can I write on files at NTFS partition?
[11:46] <scotty> How does one turn off clicking via tapping the touchpad in Ubuntu on a lpatop?
[11:46] <scotty> *laptop
[11:46] <arooni> how can i measure the time it takes a given gif to complete one loop of its animation?
[11:46] <madman91> faceman2209: system-preferences-sessions .. add it there
[11:46] <adrian_> if i press the "1" button, then a "1" is "pressed"
[11:46] <wbadger> alper, install ntfs-3g
[11:46] <fubbleskag> faceman2209 system, preferences, sessions
[11:46] <vox754> !startup | faceman2209
[11:46] <ubotu> faceman2209: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[11:46] <alper> ty man
[11:46] <faceman2209> Thanks!
[11:46] <madman91> alper: sudo aptitude install ntfs-config
[11:46] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g > alper
[11:46] <Scunizi> mharris, once the external drive is formatted ext3 you can drag and drop files from the win partition to the drive from within linux.
[11:47] <recon> madman91: You have a couple options here. A stopwatch would work, or you could load it up in the GIMP and see how long that says.
[11:47] <Scunizi> mharris, or use the command line to copy them all.
[11:47] <madman91> recon: ? ..
[11:47] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> is there any options for recording my desktop?... in 6.10 edgy
[11:47] <alper> thanks man, I appreciate
[11:47] <eddie> anyone know where I can get some ubuntu stickers XD
[11:47] <Scunizi> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, xvidcap
[11:47] <recon> eddie: comes free with every LiveCD from ShipIt.
[11:47] <Jordan_U> fubbleskag, Does it not boot at all or does X just not start?
[11:47] <Kevin11919>  LifeView FlyDVB-S /Acorp TV134DS / saa7134 ??
[11:48] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: there is gtkrecordmydesktop or istanbul
[11:48] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> scunizi: nice..
[11:48] <eddie> recon: okay
[11:48] <nikin> i prefer istanbul
[11:48] <vox754> eddie, you should contact people of ubuntu marketing
[11:48] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Nikin i tried that and got errors
[11:48] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> whats this xvidcap like?
[11:48] <fubbleskag> Jordan_U won't boot at all, not any of the options via livecd even. starts, then a fault error, then nothing. seems as it's probing hardware, specifically video
[11:48] <nikin> madman: what time do you want to messure?
[11:48] <mharris> ok ill handle that part later -- next question: how should i partition a 100GB harddrive for a clean install?
[11:49] <Jordan_U> fubbleskag, Can you switch to another tty?
[11:49] <Scunizi> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, check it out http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/.  It's also in the repos I think
[11:49] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: it shouldnt look around in the options
[11:49] <Jordan_U> mharris, gparted, or let the installer do it
[11:49] <fubbleskag> Jordan_U i'm not even sure what you mean by that, sorry
[11:49] <davina> night night
[11:49] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: do you have the theora codec installed?
[11:49] <Anlar> mharris: 10GB /, rest for /home, swap on file
[11:49] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Scunizi: do you have a link or what have your for that progy?
[11:49] <Jordan_U> fubbleskag, You can get to a terminal without X by pressing ctrl+alt+F1
[11:50] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> nikin :let me go look there
[11:50] <Scunizi> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, gave you the link above .. check synaptic too.
[11:50] <mharris> Anlar: so just 10 gb for the system and the rest for a home?
[11:50] <nikin> madman91: what do you want to messure?
[11:50] <Jordan_U> fubbleskag, ctrl+alt+F7 to get back if X is running
[11:50] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> sorry there i missed it
[11:50] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> my bad
[11:50] <Scunizi> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v, np
[11:50] <madman91> nikin: i dont want to measure anything
[11:50] <nikin> madman91: sorry then.. misunderstanding
[11:51] <fubbleskag> Jordan_U, oh it never even makes it that far. it's hanging long before X attempts to load
[11:51] <Anlar> mharris: the default installation is roughly 4gb, to that 6gb you can fit A LOT.. so why not.. I use swap on file instead of partitions because it's more flexible :) requires 3 commands to set up :)
[11:51] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> nikin:: no theora codec ...
[11:51] <madman91> nikin: no problem.. priobably a tab complete thing
[11:51] <Jordan_U> fubbleskag, Does it give any errors?
[11:51] <nikin> Alar: and what about fragmentation?
[11:51] <Blisken> Hi people, nero,, installed it and its saying it does not have access to my cd drives ie: /dev/sg2 and 3, how would "one" efficiently assign nero the right permission?
[11:51] <lashmoov2> anyone know of a virtual keyboard, not vkeyboad?
[11:52] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: gtkrecordmydesktop and istanbul, both use ogg theora, so install that
[11:52] <Jordan_U> Blisken, Out of curiosity, why use nero?
[11:52] <fubbleskag> Jordan_U, about 50 but they're all in something i don't understand, and there's now ay to copy/paste them etc.
[11:52] <Megaqwerty> lashmoov2: I think there is one in system>preferences>accessibility
[11:52] <MikeRotch> hey is there a way a can reinstall the add/remove thing with synaptic???
[11:52] <mharris> do i need a seperate partition for sleep/hibernate to work correctly?
[11:52] <MikeRotch> i am having a problem where i open it but ithe entire window stays grey
[11:52] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> nikin: whats the cmd if you would be so kind
[11:52] <Anlar> Blisken: setuid nero executable, or add yourself into group that sg2 etc has set.. and thank Linus personally, that's his "security tweak" personally
[11:52] <lashmoov2> megaqwertyno, for music:
[11:52] <Jordan_U> mharris, That is the easiest way, it is not required though
[11:52] <mwe> no only swap
[11:52] <] DR[Blargh> i am having trouble installing a driver from nvidia
[11:52] <fubbleskag> Jordan_U they look like the text equivalent to the old BSD in windows if that helps
[11:53] <Megaqwerty> lashmoov2: oh, yeah. No idea in that case, sorry about that.
[11:53] <Kevin11919> anyone know any chatrooms that deal wid linuxtv
[11:53] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: not sure but afaik.. sudo apt-get install libtheora0
[11:53] <Jordan_U> fubbleskag, Are you willing to install to the comp without the card working?
[11:53] <] DR[Blargh> instructions say to run yaddayadda.run
[11:54] <] DR[Blargh> but it wont run
[11:54] <] DR[Blargh> and i cant open the file
[11:54] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> nikin : libtheora0 is already the newest version.
[11:54] <Blisken> Jordan_U: well I've always used win to burn/dl my media, I'm trying to become more nix dependent if you have any suggestions please, your info is not wasted on me.
[11:54] <fubbleskag> Jordan_U, i would be, but she's not :|
[11:54] <Jordan_U> ] DR[Blargh, What are you trying to install?
[11:54] <Jowi> adrian_, so irw reacts to the remote?
[11:54] <] DR[Blargh> video card driver
[11:54] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: then you have theora installed ... hmm what error do you get?
[11:54] <Blisken> What a good nix iso burner?
[11:54] <varun0> ] DR[Blargh: did you do sudo sh nameofscript.run?
[11:54] <nikin> Blisken: CLI or GUI?
[11:54] <adrian_> irw?
[11:54] <] DR[Blargh> no
[11:55] <varun0> ] DR[Blargh: try that
[11:55] <] DR[Blargh> but i didnt know sudo had to go infront of that
[11:55] <] DR[Blargh> thank you
[11:55] <Blisken> better than nero?
[11:55] <Jordan_U> Blisken, I generally just use the built in one but I have heard good things about gnome baker and k3b
[11:55] <MikeRotch> hey is there a way a can reinstall the "add/remove programs"  thing with synaptic???
[11:55] <Azslande> Anyone know of a good program to manage a touch pad mouse (like on laptops). Ubuntu's default wont seem to let me edit the "scroll" option.
[11:55] <Blisken> nero owns on win :)
[11:55] <Flannel> !synaptics | Azslande
[11:55] <ubotu> Azslande: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[11:55] <Azslande> Thanks Flannel
[11:55] <nikin> Blisten: Gnomebaker, k3b on GUI and cdrecord if in terminal
[11:56] <Jowi> adrian_, "irw" is very useful. it lets you know if the remote is working and lircd is configured correctly. run irw in a terminal and if you get no errors, press some buttons on the remote. you will get output like "00000000800100a4 00 KEY_PLAYPAUSE APPLE_REMOTE" so you know it is working ok.
[11:56] <Anlar> Blisken: nero sucks on windows.. it's plain horrible.
[11:56] <Megaqwerty> Blisken: K3b is my favorite
[11:56] <Blisken> ;)
[11:56] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> nikin: not so much a error.. but when i type  (     sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop gtk-recordmydesktop  i get this ( E: Couldn't find package recordmydesktop
[11:56] <Blisken> Ok, Im going to check some out, but i fear Ill still run in to the permission problems
[11:56] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: did you try istanbul?
[11:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> nikin no not yet
[11:57] <Jordan_U> Azslande, I believe it is called gnome-app-install
[11:57] <nikin> sudo apt-get install istanbukl
[11:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ok i will try
[11:57] <Blisken> "challenge"
[11:57] <nikin> sudo apt-get install istanbul
[11:57] <adrian_> Jowi: I do't have installed irw and isn't in the repositories
[11:57] <Blisken> :)
[11:57] <Anlar> Blisken: to burn .iso, all you have to do is to right click it.. and to burn files, nautilus provides burning abilities on its own. there's no need to install anything
[11:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> nikin: ok now thats done
[11:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Next?
[11:57] <Jowi> adrian_, irw is a part of "lirc" package.
[11:58] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: sudo apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop
[11:58] <nikin> but thats only in Fiesty
[11:58] <Jordan_U> Adrian, A trick, try running it in a terminal now, without it installed
[11:58] <Adrian> :)
[11:59] <fubbleskag> Jordan_U the next time we give it a go, i'll try to write down some of the errors and come back - thanks though :)
[11:59] <Jowi> !info lirc
[11:59] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.1+cvs20070310-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 336 kB, installed size 1624 kB
[11:59] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> nikin: same error after i tried again
[11:59] <Jowi> adrian_, "lirc" is in universe
[11:59] <adrian_> I'm reinstalling it
[11:59] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> nikin: E: Couldn't find package recordmydesktop
[11:59] <hawkeye> Can anyone give me some advise on getting my USB Loogitech headset working on my 7.04 install of Ubuntu  desktop version?
[11:59] <madman91> hey guys
[11:59] <hawkeye> hi
[11:59] <adrian_> I follow a how to and it doen't work
[12:00] <madman91> is it possible to setup a .. chroot on a server to which you only have login access.. and use aptitude to install packages?
[12:00] <hawkeye> hi
[12:00] <hawkeye> Can anyone give me some advise on getting my USB Loogitech headset working on my 7.04 install of Ubuntu  desktop version?
[12:00] <rodrigo18> hello
[12:00] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: it is called  gtk-recodmydesktop
[12:00] <adrian_> ...  I couldn't load the required kernel modules
[12:00] <nikin> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: it is called  gtk-recordmydesktop
[12:00] <adrian_> it seems not to work
[12:00] <Jowi> adrian_, which kernel module did you try to load?
[12:00] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> nikin i was sure i did that
[12:00] <nikin> maybe it is in automatix?
[12:00] <adrian_> irw -> Connection refused
[12:01] <nikin> bytheway i prefer istanbul :D so thats ok
[12:01] <adrian_> I don't remember
[12:01] <mwe> fsck
[12:01] <adrian_> :D