=== jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@125.212.12.179] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@247.52.78.208.dyn-ip.domaccess.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:37] hey jsgotangco === ogra_ [n=ogra@ip2.fa1-0-2.occ.iinet.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:37] hi Burgundavia === ogra_ is now known as ogra [12:37] hey RichEd [12:46] hi [12:46] hmmm [12:46] having an all-nighter? [12:52] jsgotangco, its note even 4pm here :) === pauljw [n=paul@pool167.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:01] oh i guess you're all in portland then ;-) [02:14] jsgotangco: RichEd & ogra from this channel ... yes indeed === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.111.214] has joined #edubuntu === merriam__ [n=merriam@82-133-115-120.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@125.212.12.179] has joined #edubuntu === ari_stress [n=fajar@202.73.101.253] has joined #edubuntu [04:32] morning all :) === infoshopkeeper [n=infoshop@66.93.119.120] has joined #edubuntu === infoshopkeeper is now known as johnny_ === johnny_ is now known as johnny [04:35] hi folks [04:35] is there a better channel than here for ubuntu ltsp ? === Dante123 [n=dante123@206.132.57.172] has joined #edubuntu [04:36] Hi all....anyone here know much about library automation and open source library management systems? [04:37] johnny: what do you mean? this channel is good [04:37] just wondering if it was [04:37] or #ltsp for generic question [04:38] i'm getting an error when booting [04:38] nfsmount: need a path [04:38] Dante123: i've just read about it, let me remember about it [04:38] booting a client that is [04:38] johnny: was it working ok previously? [04:38] no [04:38] now i'm dumped in an ash shell [04:39] ok, possible configuration problem [04:39] not possible [04:39] definitely :) [04:39] ok :) [04:39] well, as far as i know [04:39] edubuntu ltsp is work out of the box [04:39] we dont need to set a thing [04:39] did you set anything? [04:39] yeah.. this is ubuntu [04:39] not edubuntu [04:40] oww.. then we need to set something [04:40] ubuntu server and ubuntu clients [04:40] Hi all....anyone here know much about library automation and open source library management systems? [04:40] if edubuntu had existed when this box was setup, we'd be using it [04:40] Dante123: let me thing about it for a minute. my brain isn't dual core yet :) [04:41] i'm having an issue due to two configuration oddities [04:41] one.. in that i'm using both ppc and i386 clients on an amd64 server [04:41] okay....I've seen Koho website...but wondering what else is available and maybe some ubuntu support or install files available [04:41] and the 2nd in that i'm using dnsmasq for dhcp/caching dns/tftp [04:42] Dante123: here's some good url: http://library.rider.edu/scholarly/ecorrado/il2004/ossfeatures.html http://eprints.rclis.org/8074/ [04:42] Dante123: oh ubuntu? ok let me search my ubuntu, i remember seeing something like that [04:45] Dante123: sorry, i cannot find anything about library in my ubuntu. i guess the above mentioned urls are a good starting point [04:45] johnny: oh two different clients? [04:45] then you need special steps [04:45] yes, i'm sure of i t [04:45] ok thanks [04:46] in building the client environment [04:46] well i'm ignoring ppc for now [04:46] until i get i386 working [04:46] since i am far more familiar with i386 [04:46] johnny: let me get the reference, i read about it once [04:46] i think i know how to do it [04:46] once i get i386 working [04:48] it's looking in /scripts/nfs-premount but i see nothing in there [04:48] i thought it was a file, but it seems to be a directory [04:50] oh ok [04:50] but i suspect the i386 isnt working, because the server is 64? [04:53] doubtful [04:54] other people have done it [04:54] you just need to have a client built [04:54] the problme i'm getting now is that my rootpath: seems empty [04:54] it seems set .. but i can'te tell [04:54] should my client hae an empty /etc/fstab ? [04:56] looks like KOHA is the best [04:56] Dante123: really? [04:57] johnny: what do you mean? the client is diskless right? [04:58] ari_stress: Can you paste your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf? [05:00] yes.. i meant in the /opt/ltsp [05:00] the mounted directory [05:00] it's loading the kernel [05:00] but it can't mount the root fs [05:01] sbalneav: ok [05:02] Paste it to the pastebin [05:02] !pastebin [05:02] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [05:03] sbalneav: it's http://pastebin.com/m3e172158 [05:03] sbalneav: thanks for being so patient with me :) [05:03] sbalneav: it's a standard dhcpd.conf from ltsp5, i just add some lines at the above [05:05] what's your /etc/exports file look like? [05:05] So, you've got a 64 bit server? [05:05] did you build the chroot with --arch i386? [05:06] sbalneav: you talking to me? === sbalneav looks around [05:06] Don't see anyone else with a problem :) [05:06] sbalneav: :D [05:07] sbalneav: i'm using 32bit for the server [05:07] ok [05:07] sbalneav: the client can boot OK [05:07] sbalneav: if I don't use those dhcp-dns-dynamic-update [05:08] oh, are you the guy on the lists? [05:08] sbalneav: but when i add those lines in dhcpd.conf for dynamic update, the client got the IP, but cannot load tftp [05:08] sbalneav: yes, i'm fajar on the list :D [05:08] k, why do dynamic, and complicate things? Why not just statically define all your ltsp hosts in dns? [05:09] sbalneav: that's exactly i'm thinking. but since he's the one has the money, i as consultant can just do my best to provide it === Dante123 [n=dante123@206.132.57.172] has left #edubuntu [] [05:11] but, i take it as a challenge. i always believe in foss, and i'm sure it can mimic the feature of MS W2k feature [05:11] it's just me that dont know the sytax/conf correctly yet [05:11] I'm sure you can too, but WHY? What does DYNAMICALLY assigning a hostname give you, over simply pre-defining them? [05:12] sbalneav: you are right, it's over kill feature for ltsp, and dont have any real benefit. but... [05:12] he wants it for the rest of the network too [05:13] the erroring i'm geting is tht it's trying to run /scripts/nfs-premount and says nfsmount: need a path [05:13] some of the network dont use ltsp, that's why he wants the dynamic thing [05:13] sbalneav, any ideas? [05:13] johnny: Ah, so it's YOU who's having the booting problem. [05:13] it's loading the kernel [05:13] johnny: paste your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file. [05:13] i don't have one [05:13] i'm using dnsmasq [05:13] ari_stress: You getting paid to research this? [05:14] johnny: Good luck with that. [05:15] it's already booting the kernel [05:15] so i'm not sure what it has to do with anything [05:16] where is the nfsmount root defined? [05:16] in the dhcpd.conf file [05:16] it's passed as an option from dhcp [05:17] dnsmasq doesn't handle that option. [05:17] so, the client has no idea where it's root drive is. [05:17] sbalneav: i'm an employee of a linux consultant. my boss who is get the big money, i'm just my monthly salary [05:18] johnny: so, dnsmasq isn't going to work. [05:20] i've heard of folks doing it thus the reason why i tried === cajan [n=cajan@CPE-124-183-161-169.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #edubuntu [05:21] Where have you "heard" this? [05:21] The only way it would work is if you hacked up the initramfs, and hardcoded a bunch of values. [05:21] http://www.quixotic.org.uk/Articles/LTSP.shtml [05:22] aha..had that one, but in another dnsmasq config file [05:22] That looks like he's doing it for the older ltsp 4.2 [05:24] Any reason why you want to use dnsmasq over the standard dhcpd? [05:25] cuz dnsmasq is an awesome package and i was already familiar with it.. run it on every network [05:26] Ah, so just personal preference. [05:27] Well, your options are: hack dnsmasq to supply the option you need (root-path) or, hack the initramfs to hardcode the root path. [05:27] its showing up now [05:27] it says rootpath : 192.168.1.5:/otp/ltsp/i386 now :) [05:28] Well, according to the manpage on it I saw, it didn't support that option. Maybe newer ones do. [05:28] it's still not booting, but at least that isn't empty [05:28] yeah.. it read that too [05:28] i* [05:28] but newer versions fixed that [05:28] ditch the 192...., and just have /optl/ltsp/i386 [05:29] /opt/ltsp/i386 [05:29] Someone should tell them to update the manpage on the dnsmasq site then :) [05:30] it shows rootpath: /opt/ltsp/i386 but it still says nfsmount:need a path [05:31] Here's the question: does it boot if you use the stock dhcpd? [05:34] i'll try after my users get off the network [05:34] prolly 5 min [05:55] aha.. it loads nbi [05:55] image [05:57] hi? [05:57] test.. [06:02] sbalneav, you here? [06:08] Yep [06:12] just had to add these [06:12] dhcp-vendorclass=etherboot,Etherboot [06:12] dhcp-vendorclass=pxe,PXEClient [06:12] hcp-boot=net:pxe,/i386/pxelinux.0 [06:12] dhcp-boot=net:etherboot,/i386/nbi.img [06:12] with different file paths [06:12] obviously [06:12] but it was booting === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu [06:34] sbalneav, what is the most acceptable way to enable autologin ? [06:34] for each machine to different accounts [06:35] You'll need gadi's patched ldm. [06:36] how come it is not in there by default? [06:40] Because autologin under ldm wasn't developed until recently. === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt [06:40] I'm working on the ldm2 rewrite, and autologin will be a part of that, for gutsy. [06:42] ldm ? [06:42] is that a fork of gdm? [06:42] or? [06:42] it looks similiar [06:44] well i'm interested in the patch [06:45] No, it's a completely ltsp-developed display manager. [06:45] Unlike most display managers, it runs on the client, and not the server. [06:45] aha.. [06:45] so how does it pull its options? [06:46] check the edubuntu and ltsp-discuss mailing lists, the link to the patched ldm's been posted there. [06:46] through lts.conf [06:46] lts.conf .. never seen it [06:46] oh i see it now [06:46] neato.. [06:46] is that what i should use then? [06:47] for having workstations logging in by workstationname/workstationname [06:47] user/pass [06:47] you'll have to set up a username and password for each workstation in the lab [06:48] Personally, I'm adding the feature under duress. :) As far as I'm concerned, it's a HUGE security hole. [06:49] But people seem to want it, so we're adding it. [06:51] security hole for who? [06:51] for the client? or the server? [06:52] For the whole network. [06:52] it is definitely something i want to understand [06:53] It breaks the chain of authority. [06:53] The "One person, one userid" rule. [06:53] oh [06:53] these are public terminals [06:53] Excellent. [06:53] nobody needs an account [06:53] so user ids will never work here [06:54] if we ever get a new box [06:54] then maybe we'll offer some local storage [06:54] atm we'll just be clearing it every night [06:54] so does that security issue apply to me? and can it be exploited to get root on the box? [06:55] So, I just walk up, sent an email death threat to and walk away, and when comes calling, and comes to you looking to know WHO logged in to that terminal WHEN, you say..... [06:55] what? [06:56] I've never seen a "public access area" that didn't have SOME way of handling a login. [06:57] At my public library, you sign in with your librarycard number, and PIN. [06:57] etc. [06:59] not here [06:59] never has been [07:00] not here, what? [07:00] no signups === sbalneav shrugs [07:00] Same thing if any local root exploit is discovered. [07:01] sure [07:01] they're on the box, with no way for you to know WHO did it. [07:01] yep.. same as the way they were running before then [07:02] Now you know the risks. [07:02] i knew those ones [07:02] i just wanted to know if there were risks specifically with the way the autologin works [07:03] none extra. [07:03] ok cool [07:03] The existing ones are huge enough. :) [07:03] sure [07:04] at least we have a good backup procedure [07:04] we don't even take pictures inside the shop without consent of everybody inside [07:05] lol [07:05] one of the collective members helps run the imc network [07:06] and they make sure not to log IP addresses for any of the IMC sites in the network [07:10] Well, late here, I've committed my patches, so I'm of to bed. [07:10] night all === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === ari_stress [n=fajar@202.73.101.253] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@203.131.87.66] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@203.131.87.66] has joined #edubuntu === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-170-173.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@203.131.87.66] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-aedee9d4ce764531] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@203.131.87.66] has joined #edubuntu === cajan [n=cajan@dip-58-6-28-26.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === Patrick_ [n=chatzill@p54935EC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A97552.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === humbolto [n=elias@213-147-185-150.ADSL.ycn.com] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@121.97.250.93] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:43] Morning all [03:45] morning sbalneav [03:46] hi juliux === Dante123 [n=dante123@bas4-kitchener06-1096617155.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #edubuntu === Dante123 [n=dante123@bas4-kitchener06-1096617155.dsl.bell.ca] has left #edubuntu [] === lunaphyte [n=lunaphyt@70.90.148.1] has joined #edubuntu === lunaphyte [n=lunaphyt@70.90.148.1] has left #edubuntu [] === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === sgonzalez [n=sgonzale@70.91.216.222] has joined #edubuntu === ananas [n=ananas@xdslcv016.osnanet.de] has joined #edubuntu [05:18] My edubuntu 7.04 server is requiring me to put my password in twice when I log in. My admin GUI tools seem broken by this (are they looking for the password twice also?) I also see this when I'm using the command line, but it just asks twice and then lets me use tools. Any ideas? This happened after I set up the server to authenticate against Active Directory. I am trying to log in using a local admin account (not an AD account.) [05:19] sgonzalez: You might want to look in your pam.d files [05:19] You're probably missing a try_first_pass in there somewhere. === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@64.122.195.244] has joined #edubuntu [05:20] i.e., in common-auth, for ldap auth, you'll want something like: [05:20] auth sufficient pam_ldap.so [05:20] auth required pam_unix.so nullok_secure try_first_pass [05:20] What should I look for in them? I edited common-account, common-auth, common-password and common-session. Any suggestions on where to start and what to look for? I followed the same directions using ubuntu 6.06 and had no issues like this. [05:21] sbalneav: Ah, just reading your post. Will look there. [05:21] How about pasting your common-* to the pastebin? [05:21] !pastebin [05:21] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [05:22] sbalneav: Thanks! That worked. Saved me a bunch of looking! [05:23] np [05:23] heheh [05:23] me has [05:23] auth required pam_usb.so [05:23] hehehe [05:24] Ah, yeah, saw your blogpost. [05:24] Very cool. [05:24] hehe [05:24] brb [05:29] back === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [i=richard@conference/oscon/x-37d7309f7e401b69] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [i=richard@conference/oscon/x-d80af21220ed17ff] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A95B20.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === sgonzalez [n=sgonzale@70.91.216.222] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@84.78.183.65] has joined #edubuntu === Patrick_ [n=chatzill@p54935EC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === Athanasius [n=ath@c-68-43-127-17.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw_vm [n=paul@pool191.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A95B20.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [08:47] back === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === ananas [n=ananas@xdslcv016.osnanet.de] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #edubuntu [10:10] bdoin: any exciting stuff in the new gcompris release === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu [10:12] not really [10:13] we are more focused on olpc port that adding new features [10:14] but since distro are always slow packaging things, there are probably still new things going through the pipe ;) [10:15] do you know our wordprocessor, internal and local irc chat [10:15] ? [10:19] LaserJock: hey, saw the blog post the other day! Wasn't aware you had burned out! [10:21] sbalneav: no? [10:21] bdoin: no, I haven't seen that [10:21] You're scaling back though, right? [10:21] sbalneav: "no?" as in, you haven't heard? [10:22] sbalneav: yes, scaling back, at least for now, almost completely [10:22] Well, good for you. [10:22] Get your PhD done. === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu [10:22] That's way more important. === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [10:28] sbalneav: oh, while you're here. there is a new nbd version from Debian available === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@200.84.129.134] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [i=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [i=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === Patrick_ [n=chatzill@p54935EC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:14] hello, could somebody tll me what i have to do to make usb sticks working on the LTSP clienes ? === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #edubuntu [11:18] Patrick_: If you have a stock edubuntu server install, they should work out of the box. [11:18] LaserJock: Ping [11:18] sbalneav: hola [11:19] Off the top of your head, who would I go to to add a couple of packages to the edubuntu-bugsquad? [11:19] I'm thinking sabayon and pesselus [11:19] ogra? [11:19] I can do it [11:19] in fact I think anybody in ~edubuntu-bugsquad can do it [11:19] Only if you have time. [11:20] ~edubuntu-bugs rather [11:21] sbalneav: pesselus is already there [11:22] sbalneav: did you figure out how to add them? === ogra [i=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [11:24] ogra: are you really here? :-) [11:24] LaserJock, in portland, yes [11:24] ogra: I uploaded edubuntu-addon-meta to NEW [11:24] how's life ? [11:24] yay [11:24] \o/ [11:24] life is really busy [11:25] i added gobby to -desktop yesterday [11:28] LaserJock: No, I'm a moron. :( [11:28] grrr [11:28] sbalneav: it's ok, I'll show you [11:29] I'm sure it's something obvious, I'm just not seeing [11:29] ogra: I have the patch ready for debian-cd so as soon as I get edubuntu-addon-meta into Main (I assume it has to be in Main) then I'll give it to colin [11:30] sbalneav: go to the sabayon LP page [11:30] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sabayon [11:30] ah, well, you're right, sabayon is listed on the +package-bugs page [11:30] argh [11:30] pessellus === sbalneav slaps forehead [11:30] under Actions on the left sidebar hit Bugmail Settings [11:31] shutup balneaves and just do what the man with the laser says [11:31] Under "Team bug contacts" you should see Edubuntu Bugsuad [11:31] *squad [11:32] got it. [11:32] it's there now. [11:32] Thanks! [11:32] "Teach the man to fish ...." [11:32] Build a man a fire, and you'll keep him warm for an evening. [11:33] Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. [11:33] lol [11:33] *grin* [11:33] ogra: if I have time I'll look at the new versions of gcompris, and tuxpaint* and see if there's anything worth merging [11:34] are there new versions ? [11:34] i can do that as well i think [11:34] according to merges.ubuntu.com [11:34] ah [11:34] i didnt follw that [11:35] no coding time at al here [11:35] but sbalneav is coding like mad [11:35] there is a new nbd too [11:35] going from 2.9.3 to 2.9.5 [11:35] that should have our fixes [11:35] i'll look t it next week [11:35] ogra: I'll look at gcompris and tuxpaint* . I don't want to get rusty ;-) [11:36] I should be able to do those this evening I think [11:36] heh, ok [11:36] if you insist :) [11:36] ok off home [11:36] night all === RichEd [i=richard@conference/oscon/x-6a88cc8f4ca836c1] has joined #edubuntu [11:38] ogra: well, I gotta keep my core-dev credentials up ;-) [11:38] I haven't worked in Universe for some time now === Dante123 [n=mark@bas4-kitchener06-1096617155.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #edubuntu [11:43] Hi all.....I am a teacher and I am looking at setting up Koha library management software on a PIII 800mhz computer......should I be running edubuntu on that or go with the ubuntu already installed? Koha uses mysql.....I have done lots of ubuntu desktop installs....no server installs....Edubuntu is a server edition correct? [11:45] hi RichEd [11:45] hi LaserJock [11:45] Dante123: actually Edubuntu is a desktop install with some server stuff added to it [11:45] Dante123: edubuntu is an either or [11:46] Dante123: well, I guess I should clarify. It uses the alternate-disk like installer [11:46] but it installs a full desktop [11:46] it has a bunch of educational software and edu games that install by default onto the desktop ... so it is a good idea to try it out in the library [11:47] Dante123: it already has Ubuntu installed on it? [11:47] will it have server stuff with it too....in case I want to setup another computer to use the search features of Koha [11:47] Yes, I had ubuntu on it before....just to try and show the kids something other than WINDOZE [11:48] yes, you can install LAMP (Linux Apache MySQL PhP/Python) with the Edubuntu Classroom Server CD [11:48] you can also do it all from your existing Ubuntu installation [11:49] an easy way to get the server stuff from an Edubuntu/Ubuntu install is to use tasksel in a terminal [11:49] you just run tasksel and then select what tasks you want to install, like LAMP Server and Edubuntu desktop [11:50] and it'll install all the needed packages [11:51] Dante123: and if you want educational apps in 7.04 you can get the Edubuntu Classroom Server Addon CD, burn it, and pop it in [11:51] ogra: is that ( -devel ) regarding the Desktop CD? [11:52] yup [11:52] well....if I can run taskel from terminal and add LAMP...then that would be great......and I'd leave ubuntu 7.04 on there [11:52] seems its done [11:52] (as i promised you) :) [11:53] if i choose edubuntu desktop.....and lamp......the configuration of everything else will remain the same right? === johnny [n=urr@66.93.119.120] has joined #edubuntu [11:55] okay i am running tasksel....so what should I add.....besides LAMP and Edubuntu Desktop? [11:57] that's it [11:58] unless you want to run an LTSP server [11:58] then you could also do Edubuntu server [11:59] ogra: so does it automatically look at the contents of the LiveCD or do we have to manually adjust it? [11:59] do I deselect the ubuntu desktop if I am adding the edubuntu one and I already have ubuntu? Also what about DNS server....I don't think I need that now or yet [12:00] LaserJock, it automatically builds an intersection for -desktop vs -live [12:00] and installs the result [12:00] ogra: sweet [12:00] yeah [12:01] colin made a mathematical formula out of it when we discussed it very impressing [12:02] heh [12:02] I guess that's why we pay him the big bucks [12:03] yeah === Dante123 [n=mark@bas4-kitchener06-1096617155.dsl.bell.ca] has left #edubuntu [] === Burgundavia_ [i=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [12:18] hi does anybody here know where that patch is to allow autologin ? [12:18] in ldm [12:18] i tried googling the ltsp list, but i only found references