=== claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-50-86.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:29] ScottK: around? kio-umountwrapper_0.2-0ubuntu3 from http://ubuntu.lnix.net/archive/gutsy/ - tested and it works. [12:44] fdoving: Just headed out the door for dinner. Maybe later tonight (I'm on -0400). === s0undt3ch [n=s0undt3c@80.69.34.154] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:56] hello ppl, anyone knows if gtk+2 package ships with it's translations? [12:56] aparently not, is this a bug? === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-056-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:38] fdoving: added to seeds [01:41] fdoving: uploaded kio-umountwrapper_0.2-0ubuntu3 thanks [01:42] I'll promote to main tomorrow [01:47] Riddell: Phil is kool people :) === s0undt3ch [n=s0undt3c@80.69.34.154] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [02:17] hello folks, I have a tiny bugreport to report, and I think here is the best place for it === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.111.214] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:18] I tried to "apt-get source ksplash" and it said: WARNING: 'kdebase' is maintained in the 'Bzr' version control system at: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/debian [02:18] however, that bzr branch does not exist [02:20] file a bug. Iit should be https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase/debian [02:21] yeah, I figured === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-76-212-86-144.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:38] ok finally done with harry potter #7 [02:44] jjesse: harry dies! [02:44] everyone dies! [02:44] eventually [02:44] lol I have no idea what I'm talking about :) [02:44] i bet a lot of people would get pissed at jdong's comment [02:45] jjesse: how was the ending? :o) [02:45] mhb: didn't like it and that's all i'll say for now [02:45] jjesse: I told you :o) [02:57] real quick how do i turn off the system beep? === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387C472.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:11] set nobeep? [03:11] setopt [03:11] set nobeep i think did it === scotty [n=scotty@70-41-130-124.cust.wildblue.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:14] ok, cool [03:14] in some shells it's setopt [03:14] like say, zsh, and all the cool shells :) [03:15] ah i don't use a "cool" shell then [03:20] aww, well you should :) [03:20] your lazy tab finger will like you better :) [03:21] Riddell: I commented on that upgrade-manager bug I hit. After much investigation, I think that it'll take a major redesign to work on low memory systems. The cache is just to big. === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.50.75] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bsundsrud [n=benn@12-202-10-255.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:04] http://bayimg.com/jaEMBaABf I am hopeless. [04:05] On the other hand, I'd be happy to hear your feedback on that splash screen I just posted :o) [04:06] simple [04:06] yet elegant [04:07] maybe add a kde/kubuntu logo over the bar? [04:08] bsundsrud: I wish I could :o) if you know the KDE's "simple" black and white splash screen, this is the same code with Kubuntu upslash colours added in it [04:09] ah [04:10] did you use the kde4 packages or did you build it yourself? [04:11] bsundsrud: the printscreen was from kde3, but I usually build KDE4 myself [04:11] mhb: honestly... [04:11] on kubuntu? [04:11] I absolutely love it :) [04:11] I use the simple black & white one anyways [04:12] i tried to follow the techbase page on setting up a kde4 environment but i never could seem to get it compiled... === manchicken [n=manchkn@adsl-76-199-0-119.dsl.chmpil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:13] nixternal: that's not "honestly" :-) [04:13] nixternal: I did use that black and white too, but I thought I'd add some Kubuntu colours to it [04:15] nixternal: the good thing is that the code is toolkit-independent, so it is one of the few ksplashes that work in KDE4 [04:15] I remember looking for the code one day and gave up on it [04:17] bsundsrud: if you want to compile KDE4, switch to Gutsy Gibbon, you'll have the Qt4.3 libs built and the other stuff is easy (use the techbase tutorial) [04:17] k [04:17] im using gutsy atm anyway :D [04:18] i like cutting edge === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A73B72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:19] nixternal: but I'm so glad you like it. [04:19] Sweet, the debtags issue is fixed/ === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:25] Do we know if anybody has been documenting libapt? [04:28] nixternal: if you want, you can check out http://mhb.ath.cx/tmp/ksplash-engine-simplecolours/ , add the folder into your kdebase-3.5.7/ksplashml/themeengine/ folder and try to compile it (I don't promise anything) [04:30] nixternal: what I can promise is that I'll try to clean the code a bit, add some more colours (10 should be enough) and then try and push it into Kubuntu Gutsy universe [04:32] I'll see if I can get some warnings for when folks try to modify stuff with packages of required and important priority. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:29] hello Hobbsee [05:31] heya mhb! [05:37] Hobbsee: did you see my latest garbage screenshot? http://bayimg.com/jaEMBaABf [05:37] mhb: neat! [05:38] Hobbsee: "simple" ksplash meets kubuntu usplash === Hobbsee hasnt read backscroll yet [05:38] yep [05:38] the usplash usually doesnt have the icons on it by that point, though [05:40] Hobbsee: ah, you mean the desktop icons? They're there because I was testing the ksplash, not actually starting KDE. [05:41] ahhh..... [05:41] yes [05:42] that seems to be as simple is designed, actually [05:42] to not actually have another background [05:44] howdy! [05:44] hiya nixternal! [05:44] hiya Hobbsee! [05:45] Hobbsee: yes, not loading another background is one good aspect of it [05:46] yep :) === Hobbsee likes it [05:46] although i thikn i'm using the moodlin one at the moment [05:47] Hobbsee: which is the default one, right? [05:47] unsure [05:47] actually, i think we may have a kubuntu splash? [05:48] ya, and the Kubuntu splash is a moodin one, which I didn't know.. [05:48] Hobbsee: yes, but on a moodin engine [05:49] ah right [05:50] Hobbsee: the moodin engine is quite the opposite of the "simple" engine :o) very customizable, but very complicated [05:50] for a splash screen, that is [05:50] ahhhh === DaSkreech [n=chatzill@72.252.29.223] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:51] How do I handle stoned? [05:52] sleep it off [05:53] Heh [05:53] gutsy+1 was announced as LTS? [05:53] a while ago [05:53] that was decided at UDS, yes [05:53] every 2 years [05:53] sweet [05:57] Hobbsee: to be honest, I have never undestood why that KDE splash screen always prints messages like "setting interprocess communication" [05:58] heh [05:58] true [05:58] Hobbsee: I mean: who cares? :o) users care only if something bad happens (an that usually results in a error pop-up), developers know what's happening anyway [05:58] mhb: User comfort [05:59] Is it actually tied to anything in the background? [05:59] unsure - maybe being able to see what is happening, if it's lagging? [05:59] I just thought that all that stuff was just a pretty little bar that keeps running to keep users happy knowing something is happening [06:00] DaSkreech: true, but why write messages that are incomprehensible to the user? [06:00] mhb: have you ever played the Sims? [06:00] DaSkreech: hehe, i know where you're going with this. [06:00] sims 2 has even better messages [06:00] my sister had [06:01] Hobbsee: doesn't it? [06:01] Hobbsee: I know those :o) [06:01] oh yes ;) [06:01] mhb: did your sister ever play with the buyable fire, in multiple colours? [06:01] mhb: Yeah if we wanted we could make the purposely over the top and throw pouring milk for the kitty in the middle [06:01] I don't think it matters === Hobbsee misses her purple fire. [06:02] Hobbsee: I've never paid much attention to the sims, I must admit [06:02] awww, darn. === Hobbsee always wondered how far the multiple colours of buyable fire spread. [06:04] I would guess within the visible spectrum? [06:04] DaSkreech: i meant across that community [06:05] http://simsattic3.si.funpic.org/miscellaneous_files/Pleasant_4_0002.jpg [06:05] ^ be the buyable fires. [06:06] I wonder if Seven deadly sims is still around [06:07] should be. [06:07] for sims 1, anyway [06:07] maybe for ts2 [06:07] creating for the sims is so hard anyway [06:07] there's multiple tools, so you use about 5 in any creation [06:08] and apart from that, they change the base level code during most of hte expansion packs, so the more objects and stuff you do, the more of them you have to fix. [06:08] (seeing as they never actually released edith) [06:09] C&C is gone, though :( [06:10] [06:11] edith? [06:11] Who? [06:12] it was the tool the people at (then) maxis used to create the objects. [06:12] you knew edith too? [06:13] archie was the best [06:13] heh [06:13] Jughead [06:13] DaSkreech: editing things in hex instead is fun, y'know :P [06:14] for the stuff they didnt really have plugins for [06:14] not that archie you silly [06:14] Oh yeah we used to do that for SC tournaments [06:14] Umm [06:14] Archie and Edith Bunker [06:14] wait [06:14] I swore never to talk about that [06:14] Ah [06:14] Those were the days [06:14] haha yes [06:14] I catch it every now and then on Nick at Night [06:15] DaSkreech: hahahahaha [06:15] [14:14] I swore never to talk about that <-- i usually operate on the same [06:15] :-) [06:16] Hobbsee: You mean the swearing? [06:16] DaSkreech: no, the stuff about the sims, actually [06:16] ah yeah :-) [06:16] Sims is great [06:16] Wish they still had the music in Sims2 :-( [06:17] and my website design is not so bad...ish. [06:17] you can grab the sims 1 music, iirc [06:17] Yeah [06:17] I have a playlist [06:17] I'm unfortunately addicted to simolease lyrics === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:17] hi Mez [06:18] DaSkreech: *grin* [06:18] DaSkreech: you cant seem to get the ts2 songs out, though. [06:18] I know [06:18] sucks the === Hobbsee has no insider contacts to get them out, either. [06:19] I wonder if they would be so nice as to have them on the website [06:20] doubt it [06:20] some of htem, maybe [06:20] Yeah [06:20] !packagingguide | mhb [06:20] mhb: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports [06:20] EA should use that money to buy a soul [06:21] EA couldnt be that sensible. [06:23] You mean like making the games Linux compatible? [06:24] now that'd be nice.... [06:24] ts1 has a linux port, though. not the expansions, though [06:24] a port? [06:24] serious? [06:24] mandriva made one. [06:24] http://thesims2.ea.com/getcoolstuff/index.php?pid=GetCoolStuff [06:25] You can buy the music [06:25] DaSkreech: means it should be easy enough to pirate. [06:25] er, "obtain" [06:26] what aaarrrrrrr you talking about? [06:26] :P [06:26] EA's copy protection sucks. [06:26] http://talklikeapirate.com [06:26] then again, their games are of beta quality when they release, so.... [06:27] yay! They have the lyrics sheeets for the sims songs online [06:27] :-P [06:27] jackasses [06:27] haha [06:28] this is to damn scary in here [06:28] to or from ? [06:36] http://thesims2.ea.com/getcoolstuff/music/The_Sims_2_Theme.mp3 [06:36] See this I can live with [06:38] my lord, you have issues [06:39] haha [06:39] nixternal: better than your vista ones [06:39] See.. I could answer you in Simese [06:39] Cancel Or allow? [06:39] *grumble* [06:39] Heehee :) [06:40] dude, that is no f'n joke about the cancel or allow junk [06:40] one of my best friends, she just bought a new laptop and it is soooooo slow [06:40] I had to press 6 of those to click one button [06:40] it is a crazy fast rig, but vista is god awful on it [06:40] was really annoying [06:42] oh way cool. sway is actually a real song, too. [06:44] I'm listening to banana_blaster.mp3 [06:44] The BNL ones are a little too much [06:46] BNL? [06:46] Bare naked Ladies === DaSkreech ponders too much bare naked ladies [06:46] In any case they apparently have a full sims album [06:47] ahhh [06:47] I could probably do that with DMB but I actually like BNL lyrics so it's a bit off putting === apachelogger [n=me@N818P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:14] gah. too many bugs. === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495764A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger is now known as birthdaylogger [07:45] Well they just started shooting up my area [07:46] Guess it's bed time === birthdaylogger is now known as help === help is now known as birthdaylogger === Hobbsee hugs birthdaylogger === birthdaylogger smiles :) === DaSkreech ducks [07:52] Ok yeah really [07:52] getting closer now [07:52] Night === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t is now known as hunger === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-170-173.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Stecchino [n=bart@d54C56F83.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [i=sfs@nat/ibm/x-81ecabc4cc2514f0] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.48.121] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:47] <_StefanS_> morning [09:50] morning! 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[02:20] Riddell: sorry - very busy learning for my exam next monday :-( === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [02:20] ooh, good luck [02:21] ;-) thx === Nightrose hates examtime [02:21] 2 months of no life for me *g* === marseillai_ [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-167-133.w90-37.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:25] greetings [02:25] Greetings Hobbsee [02:26] :) [02:31] Well I've upgraded to Gutsy now. It at least feels faster to start with. [02:31] woo! [02:33] Upgrading from Feisty + KDE 3.5.7 to Gutsy I got a number of file conflicts - package kyyy tried to install file whatever, but whatever was installed by package kzzz. Is this known/being worked are would a report be useful? [02:33] a bug report of them all would be useful. please target it to tribe 4 [02:34] OK. I was afraid you were going to say that. Good thing I took notes. [02:34] as in, it's not feature freeze and such yet, so everything still moves around a bit [02:34] hehe [02:34] i know about the libkdepim file conflict [02:34] but nothing else [02:34] Which package do I file the bug against, the conflictor or the conflictee? [02:35] kubuntu-meta will do [02:35] OK. WIll do. [02:36] I verified the gnupg changes we did and they are good. [02:36] \o/ [02:37] BTW, dunno if you noticed, but Kmail GPG and S/MIME by default were the only Gutsy changes in that section of the last UWN. [02:38] yeah...we need to find some more [02:38] the recent kde4 snapshot would be news, but we dont want people running it, and filing billiions of bugs [02:38] I would encourage people to just go to the wiki page for the next UWN and add stuff. That's how the Kmail stuff got in there. [02:39] sounds smart. [02:39] i would encourage you to post that to the mailing list :) [02:39] OK. I'll add that to my list. [02:39] as in, kubuntu-meta i'll get bug reports about. although any predone bugs will be under their respective packages, fo course [02:40] Sure. I'll do my best on the packages. [02:42] cool :) [02:45] Hobbsee: For kdepim can all file conflicts go in that one bug or do you want one bug per conflict within kdepim? [02:45] no, that one bug is great [02:45] OK. [02:45] (as all the conflicts are in one source package anyway) === birthdaylogger [n=me@N733P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:48] The bad news is that I found a lot more in kdepim. The good news is I installed every binary package in kdepim, so this should be all of them. [02:49] great :) [02:49] we do need to test this later anyway, so it's all good :) [02:52] OK. Bug #119664 is commented. Kdepim was about 75% of the problem. Off to do the rest. [02:52] Launchpad bug 119664 in kdepim "Kubuntu upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy failed due to conflicting file in kdepimlibs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119664 [02:53] great :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.102.113] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:40] OK. Done filing bugs for the moment. [03:41] ScottK: upgrade bugs? [03:41] Yeah [03:42] BTW, that update-maanger bug for low memory systems is going to be a bitch to fix. [03:42] hiya Riddell! [03:43] ScottK: which one? [03:43] mhb: gimme a sec and I'll get you the number. [03:44] Hobbsee! [03:44] :D === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:44] ScottK: you said it was due to a large list? [03:44] I think so or too much information cached. [03:45] yop [03:45] ScottK: what makes you think that? [03:45] Bug #107188 [03:45] i think i know what's up with that bug, i'll have a look sometime [03:46] Launchpad bug 107188 in update-manager "[MASTER] [kde] Upgrade tool crashed with " Cannot allocate memory" (edgy -> feisty)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107188 [03:46] ScottK: the problem is in the forkpty function of the embedded konsole I'm sure [03:46] oh, not that one. imeant the conflict one [03:47] ScottK: it's not really about not having memory, although it tends to show only on lower memory systems [03:47] Riddell: OK. I traced it as far as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/107188/comments/60 where python goes from ~120mb to ~750 mb in less than one second. [03:47] Launchpad bug 107188 in update-manager "[MASTER] [kde] Upgrade tool crashed with " Cannot allocate memory" (edgy -> feisty)" [High,Confirmed] [03:47] OK. [03:47] ScottK: but if that were the case it would mean the gtk frontend had the same issue [03:48] That's true. [03:48] ScottK: and it's an evil one, gdebi-kde is plagued by this one, too [03:48] OK. [03:49] ScottK: I am quite certain it's a KDE-only bug, related to python-kde and konsole kpart [03:49] OK. [03:49] Well I got as far as the memory bloat happened while executing the commented line in update-manager. I took a stab at trying to follow things from there. [03:50] My eyes got watery and I gave up and used the text mode installer. [03:50] Which, if it were just the cache wouldn't have worked either. [03:53] ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-kde3/+bug/117731 [03:53] Launchpad bug 117731 in python-kde3 "Python crashes after attaching pty to a konsole kpart" [Undecided,New] === ScottK looks [03:53] ScottK: that is my attempt at finding some information [03:54] ScottK: the key that might help us fix this issue is that Edgy with pre-update repositories is not affected [03:54] Interesting, but note that the update-manager bug was first filed against Edgy though. [03:55] ScottK: yes, edgy without pre update repositories is affected [03:55] Ah. [03:55] ScottK: but with packages from those repos, it vanishes [03:55] I see. [03:56] I wonder what magic Riddell there? [03:56] ScottK: if you had the time, you might try installing a chroot edgy system and find the magic [03:56] Too bad LP doesn't support bug dependencies. [03:56] If... === ScottK ponders an update manager patch to kick you to text mode if memory + swap is less than 1gb as a work around. [03:57] or maybe 1.5 [03:58] ScottK: I'd say let's find the magic package / line of code that makes Edgy with pre-update repos tick :o) [03:58] Is it just me, or is the kubuntu logo icon missing from the latest adept? [04:00] Anybody know what changed in kdebase 3.5.7-1ubuntu12? [04:00] mhb: Agreed that's the best approach, but if we get close to the beta without it fixed, it's an option. [04:01] manchicken: aptitude changelog kdebase. [04:01] manchicken: iirc, it was the kdesudo patch [04:01] Righto. [04:01] Lots of meta packages (kdm, kdesktop, etc), are showing up, too. [04:02] mhb: Is there a deb-src repository for the pre-upgrade repos? [04:03] Hobbsee: Neither aptitude nor adept can find that changelog. [04:03] That actually makes me feel better about the changelog functionality in adept :) [04:03] manchicken: because the binaries havent built yet [04:03] Ah. [04:03] Then why is it showing up in the repos? [04:04] ScottK: http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/pool-edgy/python-kde3/ [04:04] kwwii: Hey, did you change the logo? I'm currently trying to make a box with this kind of texture... http://www.enghelberg.com/eng/GLASS_FROSTED_COFFEE_MUGS10OZ.gif [04:04] ScottK: I'd bet on this package as the magic one [04:04] OK [04:05] ScottK: sources are there, so if you had a minute of your time :o) [04:05] Sure. [04:05] ryanakca: nope, didn't find any time on the weekend === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:05] ryanakca: isn't that pretty close to the look that we had in edgy/feisty? [04:05] mhb: With your reduced test case, I might just get it. [04:05] Riddell: oh, merge qcomicbook? Anybody taken up that offer yet? [04:05] kwwii: umm. I don't remember. === ryanakca checks [04:06] ;-) [04:06] ScottK: yes, installing one package is faster than upgrading the whole system :o) [04:07] Not only that but the trace should be less overwhelming. [04:08] kwwii: ah, yes, http://debianadmin.com/copper/displayimage.php?album=78&pos=1 :) === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F2E84.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:09] hehe :) [04:10] mhb: If I find the fix, will you do the Feisty SRU? [04:10] ScottK: okay [04:10] kwwii: I'll mess around and find something. [04:10] ScottK: I've never done a SRU before, so it might be good practice :o) [04:11] ryanakca: we can probably simplify that quite a bit though [04:11] I would definitely like to change the logo used in any casea [04:11] case [04:11] the feisty one? [04:11] yepp [04:11] hiya kwwii :) === Hobbsee met a person at the airport a few days ago who looked a lot like kwwii === Hobbsee was almost goign to say hello [04:13] Hobbsee: what? fat and bald? [04:13] :P [04:13] I bet there are a lot of them out there [04:13] ryanakca: nope, please go ahead === mbiebl [n=michael@85.180.67.53] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:15] kwwii: do you still have the Kubuntu Feisty usplash SVG on the net? === Hobbsee wonders how one can have a 4D trackball mouse === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:15] Hobbsee: it changes in time ;) [04:15] ah right [04:17] kwwii: hmm... mind tarballing all the Kubuntu/Ubuntu .svgs that you have/that I might need? [04:18] (aka, the logo & the old ones, and the old splash screen stuff) [04:19] mhb: yepp, http://sinecera.de/kusplash_feisty_idea2b.svg [04:19] ryanakca: well, there really is only the kdm and usplash stuff [04:20] http://sinecera.de/feisty_kdm2_dark2b.svg [04:20] kwwii: *nods*, then the old KDM files? I have the feisty one, but no edgy [04:21] http://sinecera.de/usplash_2fc.svg and http://sinecera.de/gdmFrom_2fc.svg is ubuntu [04:21] I'll have to dig for the edgy version [04:22] kwwii: thanks :) [04:23] http://sinecera.de/edgy_kdm_final_03c.svg [04:23] the window part is the same in both of those, the only difference is the logo === ryanakca nods, thanks :) [04:25] kwwii: sorry to be such a bother, but that kubuntu upslash svg was without the progress bar, which is what I'm looking for ... do you happen to have one with the progress bar? [04:25] the progress bar should be in another level which is just turned off [04:26] ah, sorry then :o) [04:26] mhb: note that when you are working on the usplash you need to make sure that you do not use too many colors [04:26] I was going to pretty much leave the usplash alone, except to make a brighter outline for the blue part [04:26] the blue part of the progess bar, I mean [04:27] but I would probably just open it in gimp and find one of the indexed colors that is already in the png file instead of starting fresh === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:28] Tonio_: ping [04:28] Tonio_: I may have thie --nonewdcop stuff working, how do I test it out for real? [04:28] how do I have kcontrol launch admin mode with kdesudo instead of kdesu? [04:29] Riddell: just build the kdesudo package including your patch [04:29] kwwii: thank you [04:29] Riddell: the package includes a dpkg-divert to replace kdesu silently [04:29] Riddell: then just use systemsettings [04:30] Riddell: if it doesn't work, I'll check if another command line option is required, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't [04:30] kdesu: Unknown option '-n'. [04:30] mhb: no problem [04:30] Riddell: then we'll have to add this one too.... [04:30] Riddell: it is probably the last missing option [04:30] Riddell: I guess you should be able to use your dcop to connect to the elevated app... [04:31] Riddell: which is the most *real* testing you can get, isn't it? :o) [04:32] mhb: -n is just to not cache the password [04:32] mhb: I think we should fake this option, as sudo is supposed to cache the passwords by default right ? [04:33] mhb: kdesudo should just accept the option and do nothing with it in my opinion [04:33] Riddell: what's your opinion on that point ? [04:33] Riddell: another option is to patch kdelibs not to use the -n for this [04:33]