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| DanaG | Aaargh, I had to login and magic-sysrq-kill Xorg about 7 times before gnome-panel would work. | 12:31 |
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| jussi01 | MikeRotch: you need to check the command used to launch it. it needs to be run as root | 12:32 |
| MikeRotch | jussi01 | 12:35 |
| MikeRotch | i do not know how to do that check | 12:35 |
| jussi01 | MikeRotch: as i said, go find the menu editor. find the thing for add/remove, the command is listed there | 12:36 |
| MikeRotch | oh sorry let me check pleae 1 second | 12:37 |
| MikeRotch | the command is /usr/bin/gnome-app-install | 12:38 |
| jussi01 | try changing it to "gksudo /usr/bin/gnome-app-install" | 12:38 |
| jussi01 | see if that works | 12:38 |
| jussi01 | with out the "" of course | 12:39 |
| MikeRotch | cool yes it works | 12:42 |
| MikeRotch | i did get some errors in terminal | 12:42 |
| MikeRotch | but i can see all the op[tions now thanks | 12:42 |
| jussi01 | great :) | 12:44 |
| jussi01 | MikeRotch: what errors did you get? | 12:44 |
| MikeRotch | oh it's alot | 12:46 |
| MikeRotch | can i IM you? | 12:46 |
| MikeRotch | it's long | 12:46 |
| jussi01 | !paste | 12:46 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 12:46 |
| MikeRotch | oh ok cool 1 sec | 12:46 |
| MikeRotch | jussi01 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30830/ | 12:48 |
| MikeRotch | that was directly after running gksu gnome-app-install | 12:50 |
| jussi01 | MikeRotch: I havent seen thse errors before, sorry | 12:50 |
| MikeRotch | haha yea me neither thanks anyay though for the first help | 12:50 |
| jussi01 | I have to go, nitwe | 12:50 |
| MikeRotch | laters | 12:50 |
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| mikedep333 | Hey, I have a laptop with a mobility radeon x1400, which is only supported by the ati binary driver fglrx at the moment | 02:03 |
| mikedep333 | I booted from the tribe 3 cd and only get a command line | 02:03 |
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| mikedep333 | sudo apt-get install fglrx did not work | 02:03 |
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| mikedep333 | is the driver not in the repo yet or something? | 02:06 |
| mikedep333 | nm, it is xorg-driver-fglrx | 02:06 |
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| DanaG | Hmm, why does "dhclient eth0" try to get an IP even when the cable is unplugged? | 02:47 |
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| zak | Hey! | 02:47 |
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| DanaG | Hmm, I'm using the iwl3945 driver instead of iwp3945, but I haven't noticed any great difference in the behavior, as far as a user is concerned. | 03:05 |
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| DanaG | Is the lack of a binary daemon the only major difference? | 03:12 |
| RAOF | And it uses the new softmac layer | 03:18 |
| DanaG | Aah. Is there somewhere I can find a nice explanation of the difference between that and the old system? | 03:20 |
| RAOF | Probably. Maybe kerneltrap? | 03:20 |
| RAOF | DanaG: Oh, sorry. It's that the new driver uses the kernel infrastructure rather than rolling its own wireless stack. | 03:33 |
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| keram | hey | 06:18 |
| keram | how do you mount a swap partition? | 06:18 |
| keram | my swap partition is /dev/sda5 but i dont know how to mount it | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | sudo swapon /dev/sda5? | 06:19 |
| keram | ah | 06:19 |
| keram | should that show up when i do df -h? | 06:19 |
| Hobbsee | that should show up when you do "free" | 06:20 |
| keram | ah | 06:20 |
| keram | thanks :] | 06:20 |
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| Dekkard | i have 42 gig of freespace on my drive..but the upgrade tool says i need 92 meg of freespace on /boot.. /boot only has 111 meg used.. whats up? | 06:47 |
| Hobbsee | want to paste the output of "df -h -T" ? | 06:47 |
| Dekkard | Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on | 06:48 |
| Dekkard | /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root ext3 72G 27G 43G 39% / | 06:48 |
| Dekkard | varrun tmpfs 237M 228K 236M 1% /var/run | 06:48 |
| Dekkard | varlock tmpfs 237M 0 237M 0% /var/lock | 06:48 |
| Dekkard | procbususb usbfs 237M 100K 236M 1% /proc/bus/usb | 06:48 |
| Dekkard | udev tmpfs 237M 100K 236M 1% /dev | 06:48 |
| Dekkard | devshm tmpfs 237M 0 237M 0% /dev/shm | 06:48 |
| Dekkard | /dev/hdb1 ext3 228M 104M 112M 49% /boot | 06:49 |
| Dekkard | sorry about that | 06:49 |
| Hobbsee | how weir... | 06:51 |
| Hobbsee | i dont know, tbh. | 06:51 |
| Dekkard | ok | 06:52 |
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| jmg | hey all | 09:58 |
| jmg | my gutsy keeps locking up | 09:58 |
| jmg | mouse still moves, x keeps updating, cant click or update, something going on on hdd | 09:59 |
| jmg | cant shell in | 09:59 |
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| jmg | guys my gutsy just died 10 minutes into the session. does it have anything to do with the fact im running xubuntu? | 10:36 |
| jmg | my rsync session is still running but the desktop is totally unresponsive | 10:37 |
| jmg | any ideas? | 10:37 |
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| RAOF | jmg: Possibly, People seem to be reporting xfce problems | 10:46 |
| Amaranth | RAOF: already dealt with in another channel :) | 10:47 |
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| Peaker | In one of the last gutsy upgrades, my wireless (zd1211) started becoming unstable.. I get disconnected/reconnected every few minutes | 03:15 |
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| Peaker | module-assistant fails to compile modules because of a missing linux/config.h | 03:17 |
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| humbolto | gusty installer (alternate cd) does not detect my cdrom drive | 05:12 |
| humbolto | While I can easily mount it via console (/dev/scd0) | 05:13 |
| humbolto | it is a firewire cdr | 05:13 |
| humbolto | I thing feisty had the same problem. | 05:13 |
| humbolto | how can I circumvent this | 05:13 |
| humbolto | I can perform all installation steps until "install base system" | 05:13 |
| humbolto | then it tells me "bootstrap could not determine release name" | 05:14 |
| humbolto | so how can I correctly performe the cdrom detection and mounting by hand, so I can continue my installation? | 05:14 |
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| humbolto | Anybody ther? | 05:20 |
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| Daviey | recent upgrade broken evolution? | 08:57 |
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| jriachi | hello | 08:59 |
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| jriachi | i am running kubuntu gutsy, I have noticed that since i upgraded from feisty, kopete is no longer saving my conversation history | 09:00 |
| jussi01 | jriachi: me too... | 09:00 |
| jriachi | is it a known bug / unfeature? | 09:01 |
| jussi01 | no idea | 09:01 |
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| wsjunior | jriachi: i did a clean install of kubuntu gutsy tribe 3 and kopete history plugins is working here | 09:03 |
| jriachi | wsjunior: enabled it or something in the config dialog? | 09:07 |
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| wsjunior | settings->configure plugins and check history ;) | 09:08 |
| jriachi | i dont have configure pluggins :S | 09:08 |
| wsjunior | click in settings on the main kopete window | 09:08 |
| wsjunior | not it message window | 09:09 |
| jriachi | mm.. i see it now :) | 09:09 |
| wsjunior | :) | 09:09 |
| jriachi | now working | 09:09 |
| jriachi | then it is a usability problem... ; not wanting history in new chats is different from not wanting chat at all | 09:11 |
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| luca__ | hi everyone | 09:32 |
| luca__ | can someone help me understand if some features are already working in gutsy please? := | 09:32 |
| luca__ | :) | 09:32 |
| tatters | hmm has ubuntu dropped support for wireless rt2500 drivers or are they not yet incorperated?? | 09:32 |
| coNP | lots of features are already working | 09:32 |
| Daviey | luca__: yes, some work, others not | 09:32 |
| luca__ | well suspension and knetwrokmanager are the ones I am most interested | 09:33 |
| luca__ | and of course stability of older features :P | 09:33 |
| Daviey | luca__: You really don't want to use it on a machine you depend upon | 09:33 |
| luca__ | is it that unstable? | 09:33 |
| luca__ | I am trying it on a virtual machine right now | 09:34 |
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| Daviey | plus upto 100mb a day updates | 09:34 |
| tatters | yup I had 3 big updates today already | 09:34 |
| Daviey | tatters: nautilus? | 09:34 |
| Daviey | Does it seems somewhat unstable now? | 09:35 |
| tatters | doont think I read that one | 09:35 |
| Raystlin_FM | luca__: knetworkmanager is working for me in gutsy... but that changes from day-to-day with updates... | 09:35 |
| tatters | Stable enough IMHO for me, I am a noob to linux 6 weeks, but used computers for 25 yrs and not much prob yet apart from my wireless card has not been detected as it qas with fiesty | 09:37 |
| tatters | but the I aint got a clue whats happening under the hood, its probably destroying itself as I speak | 09:38 |
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| jriachi | [21:38] <tatters> but the I aint got a clue whats happening under the hood, its probably destroying itself as I speak <----- I think you should file a bug about that 'self-destruction procedures iniciated' pop-ups | 10:18 |
| jenda | QUIZ! Ubuntu quiz in #ubuntu-trivia at 21:00 UTC! Be there or be square. Today's prize: 5 Ubuntu case badges. | 10:18 |
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| hwilde | is there a way to do fractional crontab entries, like run every 30s ? | 10:57 |
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| j4ne | hi | 11:07 |
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| Shaftoooo | Possible to get DVD support inside gutsy? | 11:10 |
| j4ne | apt-cache search libdvdread3 | 11:13 |
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| Shaftoooo | I have that, What media player will it work with? Totem doesnt liek it | 11:14 |
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| Karark|away | nautilus crashes everytime i try to navigate to another folder, any ideas? | 11:29 |
| coNP | Karark|away: I can confirm, but no ideas :( | 11:30 |
| coNP | it seems to be known, actually | 11:30 |
| Karark|away | hmm | 11:30 |
| Karark|away | i had just altered my partitions and thought maybe i had borked it | 11:30 |
| Karark|away | not sure if i'm happy to have no done this or not :) | 11:30 |
| Karark|away | not* | 11:30 |
| Karark|away | on the topic of partitions, i moved my swap to another disk and now it isn't mounting auto... does the follow look correct? | 11:32 |
| Karark|away | /dev/hda1 swap sw 0 0 | 11:32 |
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| coNP | /dev/hda1 none swap sw 0 0 | 11:33 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Karark|away: UUID=e5eb4b0d-f98b-4ab6-b1a8-0e2bd9ecc4dd none swap sw 0 0 | 11:33 |
| coNP | so a "none" is missing | 11:33 |
| IntuitiveNipple | you've a "none" missing | 11:34 |
| Karark|away | ah, great thanks | 11:34 |
| === coNP was quicker :S | ||
| IntuitiveNipple | or a nun | 11:34 |
| IntuitiveNipple | only cos I don't yet have my glow-in-the-dark keyboard lettering :p | 11:34 |
| Karark|away | that's not a bad idea, IntuitiveNipple | 11:34 |
| Karark|away | a glow in the dark pen might work well | 11:35 |
| IntuitiveNipple | I just found some tonight... I've been wanting some for ages, because i work in low-light alot | 11:35 |
| IntuitiveNipple | http://www.hebrewworld.com/glowing-keyboards.html | 11:35 |
| SeveredCross | Anyone here know about iwl3495? | 11:36 |
| Karark|away | that is neat | 11:36 |
| IntuitiveNipple | I've ordered three, guessing they'll wear out :) | 11:37 |
| coNP | Karark|away: is it the same as bug 127826 ? | 11:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 127826 in nautilus "nautilus error opening directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127826 | 11:37 |
| Karark|away | same as what i've seen at top of gutsy forum, will check bug | 11:37 |
| Karark|away | yea, that is the same | 11:37 |
| Karark|away | you can right click a folder and open in a new window, though | 11:38 |
| Karark|away | easy work around for the moment | 11:38 |
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| rjek | Evening. | 11:38 |
| SeveredCross | Is there a reported bug where X sessions don't get locked when you lose the screen? | 11:38 |
| rjek | How does the GNOME shutdown dialogue know if you can suspend/hibernate your laptop? | 11:38 |
| SeveredCross | Because I've looked through all of my preferences and I can't find any option about locking sessions (using GNOME here). | 11:38 |
| SeveredCross | I think it checks acpi rjek. | 11:39 |
| rjek | Oddly, the first time in any session that I open the window, they're not included. However, futher attempts at opening the window shows them. However, it still doesn't work. | 11:39 |
| rjek | SeveredCross: Any idea where to look at the logic that decides if it can or can't? | 11:42 |
| rjek | I'd like some reasoning, or to fix any bug that might be there. | 11:42 |
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| cblack0 | I am trying to set up apt so that it installs certain packages from gutsy but the rest it leaves alone. I am using apt pinning in /etc/apt/preferences for this. I am having issues, it seems to want to update like 20 other packages to gutsy releases | 11:43 |
| rjek | ACPI_SLEEP and ACPI_HIBERNATE are set to true in /etc/default/acpi-support | 11:44 |
| rjek | cblack0: Are you sure that the packages you want to install from gutsy don't depend on those 20 other packages? | 11:44 |
| cblack0 | I am on feisty now but want just certain packages to be from gutsy. I have read a few apt pinning guides but it doesn't seem to be doing things right | 11:44 |
| cblack0 | rjek, well, the package I want from gutsy is ant, and apt wants to update OpenOffice, so I don't think so :) | 11:44 |
| rjek | Well, OpenOffice might depend on ant - I do recall them using Java in its build system. | 11:45 |
| cblack0 | and python, which has nothing to do w/ ant | 11:45 |
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| rjek | Some support scripts might depend on the newer python. | 11:45 |
| rjek | Everything so far sounds feasible. | 11:45 |
| cblack0 | rdesktop? | 11:45 |
| cblack0 | adept? | 11:46 |
| cblack0 | having all these depend on ant seems crazy | 11:46 |
| rjek | It's amazing how quickly dependancy trees spread. | 11:46 |
| cblack0 | yeah... | 11:46 |
| rjek | They don't have to depend on ant, something ant depends on might depend on them. | 11:46 |
| rjek | It's worth actually *checking* though, rather than assuming it's wrong. | 11:46 |
| cblack0 | question is, will gutsy adept+python+openoffice+update-manager-core screw up a feisty install? | 11:47 |
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| rjek | If it did, I'd imagine there was a bug in their dependancies. | 11:47 |
| cblack0 | ok, another question :) : adept and update-manager don't hard-code repo/version prefs, they would just use the existing apt prefer3ences and repos, right? | 11:49 |
| Karark|away | anyone noticing tool tip on xchat coming up randomly? | 11:49 |
| rjek | cblack0: I'm not a KDE person, but I'd assume so. | 11:51 |
| cblack0 | we shall see :) | 11:51 |
| cblack0 | luckily I have an autoinstall cd for our workstations so this shouldn't be too disasterous | 11:52 |
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| kazukisan | anyone having problems with random freezes? | 11:56 |
| rjek | Only in winter. | 11:57 |
| kazukisan | har har :P | 11:57 |
| rjek | If you're having random freezes, first thing I'd check is your memory and system temp. | 11:57 |
| kazukisan | had linux on here before, and feisty, its only doing it with gutsy | 11:58 |
| rjek | Next thing to check if you're absolutely sure it's not your hardware is to try an older kernel. | 12:01 |
| kazukisan | k | 12:01 |
| cblack0 | man, after all that it didn't even update ant, gah | 12:02 |
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| rjek | I'm at a complete loss with my problem, too. | 12:06 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, I'm using iwl3945. | 12:08 |
| DanaG | I've found that you have to use mac80211 8.0.2 and iwlwifi 0.0.42 -- the iwlwifi 0.1.something panics the kernel. | 12:09 |
| kazukisan | wow k3b gotten a little shineyer | 12:15 |
| === pwnguin loves k3b | ||
| pwnguin | gnomebaker's gotten better, but it's still not quite up to k3b | 12:19 |
| kazukisan | pwnguin, to burn dvds do i need to install libdvdread3? | 12:19 |
| pwnguin | hmm | 12:19 |
| === rjek pats growisofs. :) | ||
| pwnguin | kazukisan: i donno. i do believe i have it installed however | 12:20 |
| kazukisan | hmm its already installed | 12:20 |
| humbolto | I am trying to upgrade from feisty to gutsy but get stuck at libc6. How can I force the installation of this package? dpkg --force-all does not help. | 12:21 |
| pwnguin | what error do you get at libc6? | 12:22 |
| humbolto | where is the pastebin again? | 12:23 |
| kazukisan | okay i have a .bin im trying to burn to a dvd, i put a dvd-r into the drive and load up k3b and open the .bin and click burn, but it says please insert an empty or appendable cd-r(w) medium .... | 12:23 |
| kazukisan | hmm nm | 12:23 |
| kazukisan | i figured it out | 12:23 |
| humbolto | pwnguin: A non-dpkg owned copy of the C library was found in /lib/tls. | 12:24 |
| humbolto | pwnguin: this is reffering to the old libc6 file(s) | 12:25 |
| humbolto | removing it disables sh of course. | 12:25 |
| humbolto | now I installed libc6-i686 first, with the result that everything segfaults now! | 12:27 |
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