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| [UPG] Pritchard | Hello. | 09:46 |
| nalioth | hi | 09:46 |
| jrib | hi | 09:46 |
| jrib | [UPG] Pritchard: are you familiar with irssi? | 09:47 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Not very much so. I had thought with irssi I couldn't join multiple channels and work at the same time through the terminal. | 09:47 |
| jrib | [UPG] Pritchard: k, do you know if irssi is already installed on your system? | 09:48 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Yes it is ^.^;; | 09:48 |
| jrib | good | 09:48 |
| jrib | you know how to get to a tty by pressing ctrl-alt-f1? | 09:49 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Yup. Can I switch workspace tabs using that? | 09:49 |
| jrib | well you can get 6 terminals to work with by hitting ctrl-alt-f1, or ctrl-alt-f2, or ..., ctr-alt-f6 | 09:50 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Right. In that case, let me reboot my system and join #ubuntu again | 09:50 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | brb ^.^;; | 09:51 |
| jrib | k | 09:51 |
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| advent | Back. Apparently it's started the installation and I'm on 7.04 | 09:53 |
| === advent is now known as [UPG] Pritchard | ||
| [UPG] Pritchard | I have a couple backups of the kernal on my booter, I think. Not sure though. | 09:54 |
| jrib | k | 09:54 |
| jrib | lets see how apt is doing | 09:55 |
| jrib | what does 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' do? | 09:55 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | E: unmet dependencies. try -f | 09:56 |
| nalioth | jrib: tty? why not use Console or Konsole ? | 09:56 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Tells me xorg has unmet dependencies. | 09:56 |
| jrib | nalioth: no X after direct dapper -> feisty | 09:56 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | It tells me apt-get -f install could fix the problem. | 09:56 |
| jrib | try it | 09:56 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Gah. Unable to correct dependencies. | 09:57 |
| nalioth | jrib: ouch | 09:57 |
| jrib | k, you need to pastebin some stuff... one sec | 09:59 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Alright. I can pastebin through the terminal? :D | 09:59 |
| jrib | alright, here's how we will do it: run the commands but append '| tee ~/pastebin1' to them. So run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | tee ~/pastebin1' for example | 10:01 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Okay | 10:03 |
| jrib | k, now dcc send them to me with: /dcc send jrib file1 file2 ... | 10:04 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | I didn't see the files that were output. | 10:05 |
| jrib | k, let me explain: COMMAND | tee ~/pastebin1 saves the output of COMMAND in the file ~/pastebin1 | 10:05 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Oh :D | 10:05 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Is /dcc an irssi command? | 10:06 |
| jrib | yeah, it worked | 10:08 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Didn't give me any feedback. Jw. Thanks for the help. | 10:08 |
| jrib | now show me 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-cache policy x11-common' | 10:08 |
| jrib | so this seems like it should work: (cat /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-cache policy x11-common) | tee ~/pastebin2 | 10:09 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Alright. I hope that worked | 10:10 |
| jrib | k, I didn't get sources.list | 10:11 |
| jrib | just the apt-cache policy part, but I think this is enough | 10:12 |
| jrib | lets get rid of the broken X and just install it again | 10:12 |
| jrib | do: sudo apt-get remove x11-common | 10:12 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Alright. Removed it, apparently O.o;; | 10:13 |
| jrib | it got rid of a bunch of stuff right? | 10:14 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Not sure. I can't really tell from the log. | 10:14 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | At the end of it, it still complains about dependencies. | 10:14 |
| jrib | what does it say | 10:15 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | packagename (ex: xserver-xorg) Depends: packagename - but it is not going to be installed | 10:16 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Does that far more packages than I can read, and it gives me another unmet dependency error at the end. | 10:17 |
| jrib | k, show me | 10:18 |
| jrib | k, check if x11-common is still installed: 'apt-cache policy x11-common | 10:21 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | installed: 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 | 10:23 |
| jrib | pfft | 10:23 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | installed: 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 0: 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 10:23 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Then I have a candidate version, 1:7.2-0ubuntu11 | 10:24 |
| jrib | yeah, that's the new one we want to get in there | 10:24 |
| jrib | easy way is to get apt to just remove X | 10:24 |
| nalioth | tried 'sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade? | 10:24 |
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| [UPG] Pritchard | nalioth, wasn't able to correct dependencies. | 10:25 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | alright so sudo apt-get remove X? | 10:25 |
| nalioth | [UPG] Pritchard: my command was different from any you've been offered previously | 10:25 |
| nalioth | [UPG] Pritchard: it's sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg <enter> | 10:26 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Is it still common to have it give me dependency errors then? | 10:27 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Removing xserver-xorg is what we tried earlier, right? | 10:27 |
| jrib | nope, go ahead and try xserver-xorg, we tried x11-common before | 10:28 |
| nalioth | i think honestly, you should start over the install. basically you're gonna have to break the machine some more, before you can build it back up | 10:28 |
| nalioth | and you may break it to the point it doesn't talk to humans at all | 10:28 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | ;_; | 10:28 |
| jrib | installing will probably be faster to be honest, just backup your /home and it will be the same anyway | 10:29 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Right. | 10:29 |
| nalioth | wasn't the warning on the upgrade page about skipping releases? | 10:29 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Yes. There was indeed a very large warning. | 10:30 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | I wasn't aware of that before I tried this, however :P | 10:30 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Alright, will I need to redownload from a CD to install, or can I do this through the command-line? | 10:30 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Heheh. | 10:30 |
| nalioth | you'll need a cd, | 10:31 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Darnit. | 10:31 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Would the CD remove my current distro for me? | 10:31 |
| nalioth | it has the capability of wiping your drive, yes | 10:32 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | By drive you mean partition, meaning only the one Ubuntu's on, right? | 10:32 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | I'm on a dual-boot XP/Ubuntu. | 10:32 |
| nalioth | no, the drive is the whole thing | 10:34 |
| nalioth | a partition is a subsection of a drive | 10:34 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | That was a joke. I don't want my XP partition deleted | 10:34 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | :D | 10:34 |
| nalioth | losing XP is a step in the right direction, imho | 10:35 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | I have a looot of stuff on that partition, and I use XP for development atm because I'm too lazy to learn it on Linux. | 10:35 |
| nalioth | it's easier on linux | 10:35 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Probably :P | 10:35 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | I *wish* I could be on Linux most of the time, but I can't. | 10:36 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | And removing XP also means that I can't play all my fun Windows programs :P | 10:36 |
| nalioth | fun windows programs? | 10:36 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Yeah. like BSOD. | 10:36 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | And uhm, games that don't have a Linux port :D | 10:37 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | (which is a lot of them, sadly) | 10:37 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Oh, and photoshop. | 10:37 |
| nalioth | two words | 10:37 |
| nalioth | Cedega | 10:37 |
| nalioth | GimpShop | 10:37 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Gimp's UI is awful imo. | 10:38 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Haven't tried anything else really though. | 10:38 |
| nalioth | [UPG] Pritchard: um, i didn't say "Gimp" | 10:38 |
| nalioth | i said "GimpShop" | 10:39 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Is it free? | 10:39 |
| nalioth | yes, it is. | 10:40 |
| nalioth | i don't use payware | 10:40 |
| nalioth | i've not used Windows since the year 2000 | 10:40 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Thanks for the info. Got to go now. See ya. | 10:41 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Thanks for the help jrib. | 10:41 |
| [UPG] Pritchard | Guess I'm just going to have to reinstall. | 10:41 |
| nalioth | jrib: did you see a ban on him in #ubuntu ? | 10:56 |
| jrib | nalioth: no | 10:56 |
| nalioth | me, neither | 10:56 |
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