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[06:03] <HarKoT> ol
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[09:46] <[UPG] Pritchard> Hello.
[09:46] <nalioth> hi
[09:46] <jrib> hi
[09:47] <jrib> [UPG] Pritchard: are you familiar with irssi?
[09:47] <[UPG] Pritchard> Not very much so.  I had thought with irssi I couldn't join multiple channels and work at the same time through the terminal.
[09:48] <jrib> [UPG] Pritchard: k, do you know if irssi is already installed on your system?
[09:48] <[UPG] Pritchard> Yes it is ^.^;;
[09:48] <jrib> good
[09:49] <jrib> you know how to get to a tty by pressing ctrl-alt-f1?
[09:49] <[UPG] Pritchard> Yup.  Can I switch workspace tabs using that?
[09:50] <jrib> well you can get 6 terminals to work with by hitting ctrl-alt-f1, or ctrl-alt-f2, or ..., ctr-alt-f6
[09:50] <[UPG] Pritchard> Right.  In that case, let me reboot my system and join #ubuntu again
[09:51] <[UPG] Pritchard> brb ^.^;;
[09:51] <jrib> k
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[09:53] <advent> Back.  Apparently it's started the installation and I'm on 7.04
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[09:54] <[UPG] Pritchard> I have a couple backups of the kernal on my booter, I think.  Not sure though.
[09:54] <jrib> k
[09:55] <jrib> lets see how apt is doing
[09:55] <jrib> what does 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' do?
[09:56] <[UPG] Pritchard> E: unmet dependencies.  try -f
[09:56] <nalioth> jrib: tty? why not use Console or Konsole ?
[09:56] <[UPG] Pritchard> Tells me xorg has unmet dependencies.
[09:56] <jrib> nalioth: no X after direct dapper -> feisty
[09:56] <[UPG] Pritchard> It tells me apt-get -f install could fix the problem.
[09:56] <jrib> try it
[09:57] <[UPG] Pritchard> Gah.  Unable to correct dependencies.
[09:57] <nalioth> jrib: ouch
[09:59] <jrib> k, you need to pastebin some stuff... one sec
[09:59] <[UPG] Pritchard> Alright.  I can pastebin through the terminal? :D
[10:01] <jrib> alright, here's how we will do it: run the commands but append '| tee ~/pastebin1' to them.  So run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | tee ~/pastebin1' for example
[10:03] <[UPG] Pritchard> Okay
[10:04] <jrib> k, now dcc send them to me with:  /dcc send jrib file1 file2 ...
[10:05] <[UPG] Pritchard> I didn't see the files that were output.
[10:05] <jrib> k, let me explain:  COMMAND | tee ~/pastebin1    saves the output of COMMAND in the file ~/pastebin1
[10:05] <[UPG] Pritchard> Oh :D
[10:06] <[UPG] Pritchard> Is /dcc an irssi command?
[10:08] <jrib> yeah, it worked
[10:08] <[UPG] Pritchard> Didn't give me any feedback.  Jw.  Thanks for the help.
[10:08] <jrib> now show me 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-cache policy x11-common'
[10:09] <jrib> so this seems like it should work:   (cat /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-cache policy x11-common) | tee ~/pastebin2
[10:10] <[UPG] Pritchard> Alright.  I hope that worked
[10:11] <jrib> k, I didn't get sources.list
[10:12] <jrib> just the apt-cache policy part, but I think this is enough
[10:12] <jrib> lets get rid of the broken X and just install it again
[10:12] <jrib> do: sudo apt-get remove x11-common
[10:13] <[UPG] Pritchard> Alright.  Removed it, apparently O.o;;
[10:14] <jrib> it got rid of a bunch of stuff right?
[10:14] <[UPG] Pritchard> Not sure.  I can't really tell from the log.
[10:14] <[UPG] Pritchard> At the end of it, it still complains about dependencies.
[10:15] <jrib> what does it say
[10:16] <[UPG] Pritchard> packagename (ex: xserver-xorg) Depends: packagename - but it is not going to be installed
[10:17] <[UPG] Pritchard> Does that far more packages than I can read, and it gives me another unmet dependency error at the end.
[10:18] <jrib> k, show me
[10:21] <jrib> k, check if x11-common is still installed: 'apt-cache policy x11-common
[10:23] <[UPG] Pritchard> installed: 7.0.0-0ubuntu45
[10:23] <jrib> pfft
[10:23] <[UPG] Pritchard> installed: 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 0: 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[10:24] <[UPG] Pritchard> Then I have a candidate version, 1:7.2-0ubuntu11
[10:24] <jrib> yeah, that's the new one we want to get in there
[10:24] <jrib> easy way is to get apt to just remove X
[10:24] <nalioth> tried 'sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade?
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[10:25] <[UPG] Pritchard> nalioth, wasn't able to correct dependencies.
[10:25] <[UPG] Pritchard> alright so sudo apt-get remove X?
[10:25] <nalioth> [UPG] Pritchard: my command was different from any you've been offered previously
[10:26] <nalioth> [UPG] Pritchard: it's sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg <enter>
[10:27] <[UPG] Pritchard> Is it still common to have it give me dependency errors then?
[10:27] <[UPG] Pritchard> Removing xserver-xorg is what we tried earlier, right?
[10:28] <jrib> nope, go ahead and try xserver-xorg, we tried x11-common before
[10:28] <nalioth> i think honestly, you should start over the install.  basically you're gonna have to break the machine some more, before you can build it back up
[10:28] <nalioth> and you may break it to the point it doesn't talk to humans at all
[10:28] <[UPG] Pritchard> ;_;
[10:29] <jrib> installing will probably be faster to be honest, just backup your /home and it will be the same anyway
[10:29] <[UPG] Pritchard> Right.
[10:29] <nalioth> wasn't the warning on the upgrade page about skipping releases?
[10:30] <[UPG] Pritchard> Yes.  There was indeed a very large warning.
[10:30] <[UPG] Pritchard> I wasn't aware of that before I tried this, however :P
[10:30] <[UPG] Pritchard> Alright, will I need to redownload from a CD to install, or can I do this through the command-line?
[10:30] <[UPG] Pritchard> Heheh.
[10:31] <nalioth> you'll need a cd,
[10:31] <[UPG] Pritchard> Darnit.
[10:31] <[UPG] Pritchard> Would the CD remove my current distro for me?
[10:32] <nalioth> it has the capability of wiping your drive, yes
[10:32] <[UPG] Pritchard> By drive you mean partition, meaning only the one Ubuntu's on, right?
[10:32] <[UPG] Pritchard> I'm on a dual-boot XP/Ubuntu.
[10:34] <nalioth> no, the drive is the whole thing
[10:34] <nalioth> a partition is a subsection of a drive
[10:34] <[UPG] Pritchard> That was a joke.  I don't want my XP partition deleted
[10:34] <[UPG] Pritchard> :D
[10:35] <nalioth> losing XP is a step in the right direction, imho
[10:35] <[UPG] Pritchard> I have a looot of stuff on that partition, and I use XP for development atm because I'm too lazy to learn it on Linux.
[10:35] <nalioth> it's easier on linux
[10:35] <[UPG] Pritchard> Probably :P
[10:36] <[UPG] Pritchard> I *wish* I could be on Linux most of the time, but I can't.
[10:36] <[UPG] Pritchard> And removing XP also means that I can't play all my fun Windows programs :P
[10:36] <nalioth> fun windows programs?
[10:36] <[UPG] Pritchard> Yeah.  like BSOD.
[10:37] <[UPG] Pritchard> And uhm, games that don't have a Linux port :D
[10:37] <[UPG] Pritchard> (which is a lot of them, sadly)
[10:37] <[UPG] Pritchard> Oh, and photoshop.
[10:37] <nalioth> two words
[10:37] <nalioth> Cedega
[10:37] <nalioth> GimpShop
[10:38] <[UPG] Pritchard> Gimp's UI is awful imo.
[10:38] <[UPG] Pritchard> Haven't tried anything else really though.
[10:38] <nalioth> [UPG] Pritchard: um, i didn't say "Gimp"
[10:39] <nalioth> i said "GimpShop"
[10:39] <[UPG] Pritchard> Is it free?
[10:40] <nalioth> yes, it is.
[10:40] <nalioth> i don't use payware
[10:40] <nalioth> i've not used Windows since the year 2000
[10:41] <[UPG] Pritchard> Thanks for the info.  Got to go now.  See ya.
[10:41] <[UPG] Pritchard> Thanks for the help jrib.
[10:41] <[UPG] Pritchard> Guess I'm just going to have to reinstall.
[10:56] <nalioth> jrib: did you see a ban on him in #ubuntu ?
[10:56] <jrib> nalioth: no
[10:56] <nalioth> me, neither