| ryanakca | hmm. Any sbuilders have any idea what I can do to fix http://pastebin.ca/626606? | 12:15 |
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| RainCT | good night | 12:35 |
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| jussi01 | nite RainCT | 12:39 |
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| sharon | hi, i'm an ubuntu user and i wish to alter it. i want it to resume after suspend by pressing any key and without providing password. can any one direct me to implement this? | 01:52 |
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| ryanakca | hmm. Any sbuilders have any idea what I can do to fix http://pastebin.ca/626606? | 03:15 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: Use pbuilder? | 03:20 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: so, sbuild will not work in any way shape or form for 'all'? | 03:21 |
| StevenK | ryanakca: sbuild -A | 03:21 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: Dunno. Never used it. | 03:21 |
| ryanakca | StevenK: aha! thanks :D | 03:22 |
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| porthose | Hello MOTU's: Could you please comment/first advocate Ampache. Thank You http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6131 | 04:46 |
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| mwolson | ooh, Amache. i've been meaning to try that out at some point | 04:48 |
| porthose | cool | 04:49 |
| mwolson | (i'm not a MOTU though, so can't push the upload through) | 04:49 |
| porthose | more eyes the better | 04:50 |
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| white | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/07/msg00010.html | 05:29 |
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| ajmitch | white: trying to drag people away from ubuntu? :) | 05:29 |
| ajmitch | hello Hobbsee | 05:29 |
| RAOF | Hey Hobbsee, ajmitch | 05:30 |
| jdong | VISTA SP1 BUILD 1711! WHOO! | 05:30 |
| jdong | ;-) | 05:30 |
| ajmitch | hello RAOF | 05:30 |
| RAOF | And a hello to you too, crackmeister jdong :) | 05:31 |
| jdong | why hello, RAOF :) | 05:31 |
| white | ajmitch: just sharing the release party thoughts :) | 05:31 |
| ajmitch | oh dear | 05:31 |
| Hobbsee | hey ajmitch! | 05:31 |
| Hobbsee | !jdong | jdong | 05:31 |
| ubotu | jdong: jdong is Hobbsee: jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK! | 05:31 |
| white | ajmitch: wondeful timing. Last night released, here was College party and tonight as well. I just have 1 lecture and none tomorrow :) | 05:31 |
| white | RE-O-Week :) | 05:31 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: the bot seems to have learned english as a 4th or 8th language :) | 05:31 |
| Hobbsee | release party? that might be fun | 05:32 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 05:32 |
| white | Hobbsee: well i consider the college party as my personal release party :) | 05:32 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 05:32 |
| === RAOF wonders how hard he should try to break nouveau | ||
| jdong | glxgears | 05:39 |
| jdong | poof? | 05:39 |
| RAOF | Fails to break my nouveau. It even works. | 05:39 |
| jdong | that's amazing | 05:39 |
| jdong | beryl! | 05:39 |
| RAOF | Nouveau doesn't even begin to support a GL compositing manager. There's no texturing yet :) | 05:40 |
| === RAOF ponders wistfully that xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is probably a *bit* too raw for universe. | ||
| RAOF | No one would have any problems with a git snapshot video driver and drm in universe, would they :P. | 05:44 |
| ajmitch | not at all | 05:45 |
| ajmitch | the nouveau guys would probably hate you if you stuck it in | 05:45 |
| nixternal | ubotu] jdong: jdong is Hobbsee: | 05:46 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that, nixternal | 05:46 |
| nixternal | WOW! | 05:46 |
| nixternal | no | 05:46 |
| nixternal | stupid bot | 05:46 |
| === minghua is under the impression that nothing is too raw for universe. :-) | ||
| Hobbsee | @deleditor nixternal | 05:46 |
| nixternal | that bot killed my joke | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | %deleditor nixternal | 05:46 |
| nixternal | the whole "jdong is Hobbsee" was the whole part of it | 05:47 |
| jdong | lol | 05:47 |
| nixternal | but obviously I copied a lil to much | 05:47 |
| jdong | !jdong | 05:47 |
| ubotu | jdong is Hobbsee: jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK! | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | !forget jdong: jdong | 05:47 |
| ubotu | I'll forget that, Hobbsee | 05:47 |
| jdong | !forget Hobbsee, she's mean. | 05:47 |
| nixternal | hahahah | 05:47 |
| jdong | ow! | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 05:47 |
| nixternal | grr, I just realised you deleted me :( | 05:47 |
| ajmitch | poor nixternal | 05:48 |
| ajmitch | I don't know what you're complaining about, I've never been an editor :P | 05:48 |
| nixternal | always getting picked on | 05:48 |
| nixternal | ajmitch: I am one every other month, and then people *cought*Hobbsee*cough* remove me :p | 05:48 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee wouldn't be that mean | 05:49 |
| Hobbsee | nah, i just havent added you prior to this | 05:49 |
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| crimsun | who mentioned Vista? | 05:49 |
| nixternal | !vista | 05:49 |
| ubotu | vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org | 05:49 |
| nixternal | nice | 05:49 |
| jdong | crimsun: did you have vista on highlight? | 05:50 |
| Hobbsee | !nixternal | 05:50 |
| ubotu | Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! | 05:50 |
| jdong | man you have everything on highlight | 05:50 |
| jdong | alsa.. kernel.... | 05:50 |
| crimsun | no, I have nixternal on highlight so I know when to avoid the audio issues. | 05:50 |
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| nixternal | haha | 05:51 |
| jdong | crimsun: speaking of 3rd generation macbook audio.... | 05:51 |
| jdong | crimsun: haha no just kidding, it works great | 05:51 |
| nixternal | ya, I switched to Debian, so my audio is working again ;p | 05:51 |
| crimsun | hmm, no, that's a Debian vm running in Vista. | 05:52 |
| nixternal | no, tried that already...doesn't work to well | 05:52 |
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| Hobbsee | nixternal: muhahhahahahaha | 06:00 |
| Hobbsee | *now* you're removed. | 06:00 |
| nixternal | ;( | 06:01 |
| jdong | nixternal: how on earth do you sad wink? have you ever tried it? | 06:02 |
| nixternal | ya, it works well actually | 06:02 |
| nixternal | kind of the puppy dog look, with a "you know you love me" wink | 06:03 |
| jdong | nixternal: you must have very good motor control then to be able to frown and wink :) | 06:04 |
| jdong | ;( | 06:04 |
| nixternal | there, you did it! | 06:06 |
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| jdong | nixternal: LOL the guy at the terminal next to me just asked me "WTF are you trying to do?" | 06:12 |
| jdong | nixternal: I quickly hid this terminal behind a firefox and said "nuthin.." | 06:12 |
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| nixternal | hehe | 06:13 |
| nixternal | use Yakuake, a simple keystroke and it disappears | 06:13 |
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| porthose | Hello MOTU's: Could you please comment/first advocate Ampache. Thank You http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6131 | 07:08 |
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| LucidFox | GUI applications aren't required to have manpages, are they? | 07:21 |
| RAOF | If it's in /usr/bin, it should have a manpage | 07:22 |
| TheMuso | Heya folks. | 07:24 |
| RAOF | Hey TheMuso | 07:24 |
| Hobbsee | hi luke! | 07:28 |
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| jeromeg | when requesting a sync we should as a sync for the source package, or the binary one ? | 08:47 |
| === jeromeg as just seen the wiki page... | ||
| jeromeg | s/as/has/ | 08:47 |
| LucidFox | jeromeg> source | 08:48 |
| LucidFox | because it will be rebuilt on Ubuntu anyway | 08:48 |
| RAOF | We don't upload binary packages. | 08:48 |
| Hobbsee | thank goodness. | 08:48 |
| StevenK | If we did it would take calc twice as long to torture us with openoffice.org! | 08:49 |
| LucidFox | lol | 08:49 |
| LucidFox | can someone review? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6135 | 08:50 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: is volunteering | 08:50 |
| StevenK | Funnily enough, I'm so not. | 08:50 |
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| jeromeg | LucidFox: thx | 09:00 |
| jeromeg | could someone have a look at my sync request please ? bug 127672 | 09:01 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 127672 in cal3d "[Sync Request] Please sync cal3d (0.11.0-2) from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127672 | 09:01 |
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| jeromeg | I need this package to be synced to fix a bunch of bugs with python-soya | 09:02 |
| jeromeg | (well to update the python-soya package | 09:02 |
| jeromeg | ) | 09:02 |
| StevenK | python-soya has been updated ... | 09:03 |
| StevenK | I uploaded it last night ... | 09:03 |
| Hobbsee | jeromeg: oh, you didnt follow sync requesting procedures | 09:03 |
| Hobbsee | jeromeg: approved. will be synced in the next few days hopefully | 09:03 |
| StevenK | The new soya should be on the mirrors | 09:04 |
| jeromeg | StevenK: well it doesn't build on my pbuilder due to libcal3d12 missing | 09:04 |
| StevenK | python-soya was a merge, not a sync | 09:05 |
| jeromeg | Hobbsee: I don't understand, what should have I followed ? | 09:05 |
| StevenK | It built on the buildds, and has probably hit mirrors. Ergo, you don't need to build it. | 09:05 |
| jeromeg | StevenK: mmm, ok. | 09:05 |
| jeromeg | StevenK: oh great ! I've just seen it, I will have a look to see if it fixes the bugs. | 09:07 |
| jeromeg | StevenK: thx a lot ! | 09:07 |
| Hobbsee | jeromeg: hmm.. documentation seems to have been moved, or i cant find it | 09:09 |
| Hobbsee | jeromeg: subscribe "ubuntu-universe-sponsors", basically, and the sponsor team will look at it | 09:10 |
| jeromeg | Hobbsee: I tried to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess , could you tell me what I did wrong ? | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | To request a sync, [WWW] file a bug in Launchpad with the above information. Once the bug is complete and correct, if you are not an Ubuntu developer, subscribe (NOT assign) ubuntu-main-sponsors for packages in Main/Restricted and ubuntu-universe-sponsors for packages in Universe/Multiverse. They will review the request and subscribe ubuntu-archive. Ubuntu developers should subscribe (NOT assign) the ubuntu-archive team to the bug directly. | 09:11 |
| Hobbsee | This team will process the request and close the bug when it is complete. Please only subscribe ubuntu-archive to a bug once you have a clear action for the archive team to perform. Do not ask ubuntu-archive to help you decide what to do. | 09:11 |
| Hobbsee | jeromeg: first paragraph under "submitting your request" | 09:11 |
| jeromeg | Hobbsee: oh yes.... sorry | 09:11 |
| Hobbsee | cant say i like the term "Ubuntu Developer" there, though. | 09:11 |
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| Hobbsee | it should explicitly say "those who are in ~ubuntu-dev | 09:12 |
| Hobbsee | no problem | 09:12 |
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| jeromeg | Hobbsee: ok | 09:13 |
| Hobbsee | as not all developers are MOTU's or in core dev | 09:15 |
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| paras | channel, where can i find the resourcr on localization of ubiquity ? | 09:20 |
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| jeromeg | to solve bug 114534, what is the most appropriate, SRU with the two patches or backport of gutsy version ? | 09:34 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 114534 in gimmie "Suggested patches for gimmie" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114534 | 09:34 |
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| jeromeg | anyone please ? | 09:46 |
| RAOF | jeromeg: *Maybe* an SRU. Backports aren't for bugfixes. | 09:47 |
| jeromeg | RAOF : ok I'll try that | 09:53 |
| LucidFox | What does "triaged" mean? | 10:01 |
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| RAOF | That someone trusted (ie: with the ability to change a bug to triaged :)) believes that all the necessary info to fix the bug is there. | 10:02 |
| porthose | Hello MOTU's: Could you please comment/first advocate Ampache. Thank You :) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6131 | 10:05 |
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| jmg | anyone got a fix for firefox 2.0.0.5 quicksearch? | 10:05 |
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| porthose | no just persistent:) | 10:06 |
| LucidFox | heh | 10:06 |
| jmg | did anyone elses break on the latest upgrade in feisty? | 10:07 |
| jmg | firefox_2.0.0.5+1-0ubuntu1 | 10:07 |
| === RAOF wonders whether anyone in this channel are still running feisty | ||
| Hobbsee | RAOF: maybe some crazy ones | 10:07 |
| jmg | RAOF: gutsy is fscked on my laptop | 10:07 |
| jmg | has been for ages | 10:08 |
| jmg | it randomly locks up | 10:08 |
| RAOF | This week in Nouveau news: RENDER acceleration works fine, and compositing with xcompmgr works brilliantly. | 10:08 |
| jmg | i update every day in the hope it stabilises | 10:08 |
| jmg | i cant update this box because its running my tv | 10:09 |
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| jmg | wnat could be causing gutsy to go unresponsive? | 10:25 |
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| Amaranth | jmg: random lockups? | 10:45 |
| Amaranth | jmg: xfce? | 10:45 |
| Amaranth | jmg: i see that you are in fact running xfce | 10:45 |
| Amaranth | jmg: it's a bug with xfwm4 and gtk+ 2.11.x, upstream has a fix | 10:45 |
| Amaranth | jmg: run compiz and the problem will go away ;) | 10:47 |
| Amaranth | or, really, any other WM, i guess | 10:47 |
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| LucidFox | what does "+1" mean in firefox_2.0.0.5+1-0ubuntu1? | 10:55 |
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| jmg | compiz | 11:10 |
| jmg | ok thanks | 11:11 |
| jmg | i have enough ram to run gnome now | 11:11 |
| jmg | ill install it tomorrow | 11:11 |
| jmg | dont think my i910 can handle compiz | 11:11 |
| soren | jmg: Sure it can. | 11:17 |
| soren | jmg: My i855 can. :) | 11:18 |
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| LucidFox | is it okay to use chrpath in debian/rules? | 11:31 |
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| porthose | Hello MOTU's: Could you please comment/first advocate Ampache. Thank You :) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6131 | 11:46 |
| soren | porthose: Could you switch /usr/share/ampache/config/ampache.cfg.php and ./etc/ampache/ampache.cfg.php around? I.e. make the former a symlink to the latter rather than vice versa? | 12:07 |
| porthose | sure | 12:07 |
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| porthose | soren: done | 12:13 |
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| soren | porthose: cool. | 12:14 |
| jeromeg | can a motu please review my debdiff for bug 52726 (it's attached there, please comment there any problems) ? | 12:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 52726 in php-image-canvas "Missing file referred to in /usr/share/php/Image/Canvas/Color.php" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52726 | 12:20 |
| porthose | soren: dput new source now? | 12:40 |
| soren | porthose: Sure. | 12:42 |
| peanutb | anyone have the link to bite sized bugs? | 12:42 |
| soren | jeromeg: Um... php-image-color does not exist? | 12:44 |
| peanutb | nevermind | 12:44 |
| porthose | soren: dput new source done :) | 12:45 |
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| porthose | soren: new changes are showing on REVU if you would like to comment/advocate :) | 01:09 |
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| soren | porthose: /usr/share/ampache/config/ampache.cfg.php is now a link to /etc/ampache/ampache.cfg.php, but the config file seems to be named ./etc/ampache/ampache.conf . | 01:27 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: Around? | 01:31 |
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| porthose | soren: ampache.cfg.php is the main configuration file for ampache which is generated with the web interface, do I also need to link ampache.conf to /etc/ampache? | 01:34 |
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| soren | porthose: Configuration files belong in /etc/. | 01:36 |
| jwendell | Good morning folks! | 01:36 |
| jwendell | is ftp.revu offline ? | 01:36 |
| soren | porthose: During any sort of normal operations, /usr should be read-only. | 01:36 |
| soren | porthose: The exception being when dpkg is running. | 01:36 |
| porthose | k will fix those | 01:38 |
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| jwendell | is ftp.revu offline ? | 01:44 |
| siretart | jwendell: it works for me | 01:44 |
| zul_ | someone looking me? | 01:45 |
| jwendell | hmmm, i'll check my firewall, thanks, siretart | 01:45 |
| norsetto | Any kind soul wishing to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6130 ? | 01:45 |
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| porthose | soren: changes made, new source dput to REVU | 02:01 |
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| RainCT | if there is a debdiff that fixes two bugs, is it necessary to create a new one or is it enough if it's just attached to one and the other gets a link to it? | 02:04 |
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| RainCT | (they are just two little things so I don't think it would make sense to open a new one because of them) | 02:05 |
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| LucidFox | What team should I subscribe to bugs in Qt4? | 02:08 |
| ScottK | LucidFox: None. Figure the bug contacts are correct. | 02:11 |
| ScottK | Good morning all. | 02:12 |
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| norsetto | Hi Scott | 02:18 |
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| keyes_ | hello, have a problem while building a package : i've run dh_make and filled files in debian/ but when running debuild i've debuild: fatal error at line 617: problem executing dpkg-parsechangelog | grep: | 02:21 |
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| keyes_ | when opening debian/changelog with vim i've a lot of : Error detected while processing function <SNR>16_MakeMenu: line 1: | 02:23 |
| keyes_ | with Gedit or other it's the normal file :| | 02:23 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: I am now... | 02:24 |
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| TheMuso | Evening Hobbsee | 02:25 |
| zul_ | hey Hobbsee | 02:25 |
| norsetto | g'day Hob | 02:25 |
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| Hobbsee | :) | 02:26 |
| norsetto | TheMuso: thanks for your comment in bug #127397 Luke. Is the proposed change acceptable? | 02:27 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 127397 in rt2500 "Merge rt2500 1.1.0-b4-4 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127397 | 02:27 |
| TheMuso | norsetto: I'd need to look at it again, and I am currently not in a position to do so at the moment. | 02:28 |
| norsetto | TheMuso: np, thanks | 02:28 |
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| xxxxx1 | morning all! :D | 02:33 |
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| Hobbsee | TheMuso: zul norsetto :) | 02:34 |
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| jwendell | Hi, i did an upload that was interrupted, now i want to upload again but i receive an error 'Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of supertuxkart_0.3-0ubuntu1.dsc' | 02:45 |
| jwendell | i've tried dcut to remove that file on server, but it seems to not work | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | dcut doesnt work on revu | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | oh, that's what i was going to do. patch that out | 02:46 |
| StevenK | Don't do that. | 02:46 |
| StevenK | All you'll do is annoy DDs who use Ubuntu machines to upload to Debian. | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | or add a message that say "dont try this on ubuntu hosts, such as revu and upload.ubuntu.com" | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | that was my preferred option | 02:47 |
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| Hobbsee | jwendell: fixed | 02:48 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: I like that option much better. | 02:48 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, can i upload now? | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: yes | 02:49 |
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| jwendell | Hobbsee, thanks | 02:50 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, that orig.gz has about 20MB... that's a bit big :) | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 02:51 |
| ScottK | Any MOTU hopefuls (or MOTUs for that matter ;-)) want to practice security uploads? | 02:57 |
| coNP | ScottK: yea | 02:57 |
| StevenK | I don't need to practise. :-P | 02:58 |
| ScottK | See Bug #127718. I'll be glad to help/advise. | 02:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 127718 in lighttpd "lighttpd security fixes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127718 | 02:58 |
| coNP | looking | 02:58 |
| ScottK | StevenK: I wouldn't imagine you would, but IIRC we have MOTUs that have never done a security upload. | 02:58 |
| === Hobbsee hasnt. havent needed to | ||
| StevenK | Personally, I consider it an esoteric skill | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | oh wait, yes i have. | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | as long as you remember the CVE syntax | 02:59 |
| coNP | LP has forgotten me again :( | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: you *do* realise that we have a copule of MOTU's who have never done a NEW package either? | 03:00 |
| ScottK | Yes I do. | 03:00 |
| ScottK | I even know who at least one of them is. | 03:00 |
| StevenK | Me, me. | 03:00 |
| StevenK | :-P | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:01 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: You were after me earlier/ | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: ditto for cores... | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: ditto for core devs.. | 03:01 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: Yup. You might be interested in bug 127705 | 03:01 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 127705 in compiz "compiz doesn't "talk" when switching windows" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127705 | 03:01 |
| zul | hah I have done several security uploads thank you very much | 03:02 |
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| TheMuso | StevenK: Yes I would be, I'll have a look at it soonish. I reckon that if accessibility is enabled, we disable compiz, but I'll take that up with the devs when I'm ready. | 03:02 |
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| coNP | ScottK: should I backport lighthttpd to dapper / feisty? Or patch-patch-patch... | 03:02 |
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| ScottK | coNP: Patch, patch, patch. | 03:03 |
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| jwendell | Hobbsee, my uploaded failed again, i think due to the size of the file | 03:06 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, is there another way to upload them? | 03:06 |
| coNP | ScottK: is this for dapper or feisty? | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: dont think so | 03:07 |
| ScottK | coNP: You need to check dapper/edgy/feisty and then gutsy to make sure relevant issues are fixed. | 03:07 |
| coNP | oh, cool | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: removed | 03:08 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, yesterday i managed to upload, but i did it on upload.ubuntu.com (my mistake) :) | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | well, anywhere that you can upload is basically good. *shrugs* | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | it wont show on revu, etc | 03:09 |
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| jwendell | Hobbsee, after that upload i received an email about 'not authorized' :) | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | indeed | 03:10 |
| jwendell | :) | 03:11 |
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| DarkSun88 | Hi all | 03:30 |
| evand | Hobbsee: Thanks for the help. Can you give this one more look over? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6123 | 03:30 |
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| Hobbsee | evand: sure | 03:33 |
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| asisak | why dget does not work for LP? | 03:34 |
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| StevenK | Since different components of the source are stored in different directory due to how Launchpad's Librarian organises things. | 03:35 |
| zorglu_ | q. i have vlc compiled from trunk and would like to create a .deb for it. any hint on how i can do that ? | 03:35 |
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| coNP | then how can I make this unpack & patch my sources? | 03:36 |
| coNP | I got orig.tar.gz and .dsc and .diff.gz | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | use dpkg-source -x foo.dsc | 03:36 |
| coNP | wow, thanks Hobbsee | 03:36 |
| coNP | zorglu_: what about the MOTU package update recipe (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Recipes/PackageUpdate)? | 03:37 |
| zorglu_ | coNP: thanks, looking :) | 03:38 |
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| Hobbsee | evand: uploaded :) | 03:49 |
| evand | Hobbsee: wonderful! thanks | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | no problem :) | 03:50 |
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| LucidFox | Does someone feel like reviewing? ^_^ | 03:52 |
| asisak | evand: http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-bluetooth/0.9/gnome-bluetooth-0.9.1.tar.gz :D | 03:56 |
| evand | ...ARR! | 03:57 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | poor evand | 03:59 |
| asisak | it is an easy update, though | 04:00 |
| evand | indeed, on it | 04:00 |
| evand | just a single bug fix | 04:00 |
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| zorglu_ | hmm i have to install pbuilder to rebuild vlc :) | 04:09 |
| asisak | zorglu_: you don't *have to* ... :) | 04:09 |
| zorglu_ | asisak: really ? im reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Recipes/PackageUpdate and it end with a sudo pbuilder build brasero_0.5.90-0ubuntu1.dsc | 04:10 |
| zorglu_ | asisak: i dont have pbuilder, how can i do without ? | 04:10 |
| asisak | zorglu_: yea, it is the recommended way if you want to make sure the package compiles with exactly the listed dependencies | 04:10 |
| zorglu_ | asisak: ok and if i dont care ? :) | 04:11 |
| asisak | zorglu_: for your own use you can use e.g. debuild -uc -us -b | 04:11 |
| zorglu_ | ok trying :) thanks | 04:11 |
| asisak | don't forget to run "apt-get build-dep vlc" before that | 04:11 |
| zorglu_ | asisak: ok, i did that already :) the stuff already compiles fine, the point is to get a ubuntu package now :) | 04:12 |
| asisak | cool :) | 04:13 |
| zorglu_ | 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- rejects in file modules/misc/freetype.c <- bouhou | 04:14 |
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| StevenK | You say, smiling | 04:15 |
| asisak | zorglu_: have a look at the patch, might be from SVN, i.e. not needed any more | 04:15 |
| evand | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6149 If any sponsors have a moment to look it over, I'd very much appreciate it. | 04:16 |
| asisak | yes, please help poor evand :D | 04:16 |
| evand | :) | 04:16 |
| LucidFox | is it okay to use chrpath in debian/rules to remove rpaths from executables? | 04:17 |
| zorglu_ | asisak: is there an debuild option to ignore patch error ? or should i manually edit the diff ? | 04:18 |
| asisak | zorglu_: you should check the patches | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | evand: looks fine | 04:19 |
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| zorglu_ | asisak: building this pacakge seems a LOT of works :) | 04:20 |
| zorglu_ | asisak: i will try another way. like static building :) | 04:21 |
| zorglu_ | static building of a mozilla package, youhou :) | 04:21 |
| asisak | zorglu_: it is a hard way, but you can learn a lot from that | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | LucidFox: link? | 04:21 |
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| LucidFox | Hobbsee> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6063 | 04:23 |
| LucidFox | or actually | 04:23 |
| LucidFox | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6138 | 04:23 |
| LucidFox | as it's the newer upload | 04:23 |
| LucidFox | maybe I should note that I am the upstream maintainer, so any comments like "ask upstream to..." can be directed to me ^_^ | 04:24 |
| zorglu_ | i dont get how you guys can handle that many packages with such procedures :) | 04:25 |
| === zorglu_ is in awe :) | ||
| StevenK | zorglu_: Magic. | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | LucidFox: who's got copyright for years 04-06? | 04:26 |
| asisak | zorglu_: vlc uses quilt | 04:26 |
| asisak | zorglu_: so patches are easy to edit | 04:26 |
| zorglu_ | asisak: quilt = ? | 04:26 |
| asisak | zorglu_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PatchingSources | 04:26 |
| zorglu_ | all that because of a silly bug in mozzila-plugin-vlc :) if( (c < 'a') || (c > 'z') ) is in the source but this should accept number too :) | 04:27 |
| asisak | lol | 04:28 |
| LucidFox | Hobbsee> It was abandoned since 2003, so I took over. | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | ah right | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | +License: | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | should not be blank | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | at least from the homepage, it's gpl v2, not v2 or later | 04:30 |
| LucidFox | the copyright notice headers said v2 or later | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | +The printer icon is part of the Crystal project,(C) Everaldo Coelho | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | +and the Crystal users community. These icons are released inder the GPL. | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | i'm fairly sure they're LGPL | 04:30 |
| LucidFox | how can I check? | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | visit the website | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not sure if you need to actually specify which those files or directories are, either | 04:31 |
| LucidFox | Ah, that's odd. | 04:31 |
| LucidFox | It does say LGPL, but it's light text on a light background, while the dark header boldly says "GNU General Public License" | 04:32 |
| LucidFox | So it confused me. | 04:32 |
| LucidFox | As for the files, I'll specify the exact paths. | 04:32 |
| LucidFox | Since I'll have to edit debian/copyright anyway. | 04:33 |
| Hobbsee | you dont need the sample stuff at the top of the rules file, either | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | and that's an odd way to find hte debian directory, i think | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | but it looks pretty goo | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | d | 04:34 |
| LucidFox | odd way? | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | just havent seen it used before | 04:35 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Share? | 04:35 |
| LucidFox | what's the "proper" way? | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | +DEBIAN_DIR = $(shell echo ${MAKEFILE_LIST} | awk '{print $$1}' | xargs dirname ) | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: ^ | 04:36 |
| StevenK | ARGH | 04:36 |
| StevenK | MY EYES | 04:36 |
| LucidFox | Hmm. | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 04:36 |
| StevenK | $(CURDIR)/debian | 04:36 |
| LucidFox | That's odd. It isn't actually used. | 04:36 |
| LucidFox | if it's not used explicitly in debian/rules itself, may I delete it? | 04:37 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, i quit | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: :( | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | LucidFox: i assume so.... | 04:39 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, i can't upload the big file :( | 04:39 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, anyway, could you see another upload? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6150 | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: why the makefile modifications in the diff? | 04:42 |
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| jwendell | hmm | 04:42 |
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| jwendell | Hobbsee, i don't know :( | 04:43 |
| Hobbsee | presumably a clean rule hasnt been run, or something? | 04:43 |
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| jwendell | i just got the debian dir for 0.12 and changed it for 0.13 (and made a new patch) | 04:43 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, should i remove that non-debian-dir stuff from diff ? | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | oh, it runs autohell during build. | 04:45 |
| jwendell | haha | 04:45 |
| jwendell | autohell :) | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: can you do a debdiff <the debian .dsc> <your .dsc> | diffstat > foo, and pastebin taht somewhere? | 04:46 |
| jwendell | sure | 04:47 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, are you talking about the diff for 0.12 (previous version)? | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | and also without the | diffstat part, but with the rest of the command | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: please also fix debian bug 433403 | 04:50 |
| ubotu | Debian bug 433403 in libgnomeprint15 "libgnomeprint15: Uninstallable: binNMUd." [Serious,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/433403 | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: please also fix debian bug 433407 | 04:50 |
| ubotu | Debian bug 433407 in pidgin-libnotify "pidgin-libnotify: needs stricter depends on pidgin" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/433407 | 04:50 |
| LucidFox | If an upstream release offers a choice between autotools and cmake, which build system is preferable to use in packaging? | 04:51 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, http://pastebin.ca/630823 (with |diffstat) | 04:52 |
| jwendell | without diffstat i got a file with 1MB size! | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | wouldnt surprise me | 04:53 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, do you still want to see it on pastebin? | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | yes please | 04:54 |
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| jwendell | Hobbsee, pastebin.ca has a 150KB limit :( | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | use rafb.net/paste | 04:56 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, http://rafb.net/p/toobig.html :) | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | hahaha | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | oh dear | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: did you change *anything* outside the debian dir? | 05:00 |
| jwendell | nope | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | right | 05:01 |
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| Hobbsee | jwendell: okay, can you run diff -urN oldsource/debian/ newsource/debian > foo, and pastebin that somewhere please? | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | it shouldnt be that big | 05:03 |
| jwendell | one sec | 05:03 |
| === Hobbsee is attempting to get the diff into a reasonable form, as it's easier doing that, than reviewing the entire damned tarball | ||
| jwendell | Hobbsee, http://pastebin.ca/630839 | 05:05 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, i just dropped older patch (it was applied upstream), updated changelog, and created a new small patch | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 05:06 |
| jwendell | oh, i changed Maintainer field too | 05:06 |
| coNP | why is that so much smaller than the debdiff? | 05:06 |
| jwendell | debdiff got the entire tree (including new upstream tarball) | 05:07 |
| coNP | oh, sure it is only debian/* diff | 05:07 |
| Hobbsee | coNP: debian/ only | 05:07 |
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| Hobbsee | http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/pidgin-libnotify-0707231030/pidgin-libnotify_0.13-0ubuntu1.diff which is everything not in the original tarball isnt much help, as it has a whole block of autohell in there | 05:08 |
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| coNP | ScottK: is it a problem if I cannot finish lighttpd for now? I started but now has to go for a while... | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: looks sane. testbuilding | 05:09 |
| LucidFox | Reuploaded qink per Hobbsee's suggestions: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6153 | 05:09 |
| ScottK | coNP: Sooner the better, but whenever you can get it done. | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: please send the contents of that last pastebin to the debian maintainer, inviting him to use it. | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: also, please fix the debian bug that i mentioned earlier | 05:10 |
| coNP | ScottK: okay | 05:10 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, about that debian bug, i think it's not valid at all: pidgin is going to have its own notify engine, so, pidgin-libnotify will be deprecated at pidgin 2.2 (or 2.3) | 05:11 |
| tobiasschulz | MOTUs: can you check http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6151 please? | 05:11 |
| jwendell | 3.0 is too far | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: fair enough | 05:11 |
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| LucidFox | Who manages the NEW queue? | 05:16 |
| ryanakca | hmm... Any sbuilders have an idea for this? E: Couldn't find package build-essential | 05:16 |
| LucidFox | ryanakca> this probably means you don't have mirrors configured properly | 05:16 |
| LucidFox | repositories, that is | 05:17 |
| Hobbsee | LucidFox: archive admins | 05:17 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: build-essentials. | 05:17 |
| ryanakca | LucidFox: http://pastebin.ca/630863 | 05:17 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: it's different in a chroot? apt-cache show build-essential works here, outside my chroot. | 05:18 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: and I'm getting the samething for devscripts and fakeroot, so I'm guessing it's a messed up schroot | 05:18 |
| LucidFox | ryanakca> is it in pbuilder where you get this error? | 05:18 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: ah right. no idea. | 05:19 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt use sbuild and friends | ||
| Hobbsee | jwendell: looks sane | 05:19 |
| ryanakca | LucidFox: no, schroot/sbuild... see "Entering the chroot" on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SbuildLVMHowto | 05:19 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, should i update changelog (i forgot to say i changed Maintainer field) ? | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: probably, but i just hit the big red "upload" button | 05:20 |
| Hobbsee | probably doesnt matter that much | 05:20 |
| jwendell | haha | 05:20 |
| jwendell | ok then | 05:20 |
| LucidFox | ryanakca> ah, sorry, I haven't worked with that | 05:21 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, does that mean the package was accepted? | 05:21 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: you should get an accepted mail | 05:21 |
| === Hobbsee hasnt got one yet | ||
| jwendell | Hobbsee, thanks | 05:21 |
| jwendell | later i'll try that big upload again | 05:21 |
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| Hobbsee | jwendell|lunch: there we go | 05:25 |
| Toadstool | good morning! | 05:26 |
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| Hobbsee | morning Toadstool! | 05:27 |
| Toadstool | hey Hobbsee! | 05:28 |
| geser | does somebody know if emerald 0.3 works with compiz? | 05:29 |
| LucidFox | geser> it does | 05:30 |
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| geser | cool | 05:30 |
| LucidFox | but you have to run emerald before compiz, otherwise it will use gtk-w-d or kde-w-d | 05:30 |
| === geser waits till emerald passes NW | ||
| geser | NEW | 05:30 |
| geser | so you can't change it afterwards? | 05:31 |
| LucidFox | you can with emerald --replace | 05:31 |
| LucidFox | as for NEW... it's really slow at times :( | 05:32 |
| geser | I hope it's a little faster now as tribe-3 is out of the way | 05:33 |
| LucidFox | I'm still waiting for qca2 to be accepted... it's stuck there since July 9 | 05:34 |
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| shahab_sh | hi | 05:38 |
| shahab_sh | i have a question about ubuntu packages and repositories | 05:39 |
| shahab_sh | anyone can help me plz | 05:39 |
| shahab_sh | can i use debian etch repositories (dvds or ...) in ubuntu? | 05:39 |
| Toadstool | shahab_sh: no you can't | 05:41 |
| shahab_sh | there is no way? | 05:42 |
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| tobiasschul1 | MOTUs: can you check http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6151 please? | 05:44 |
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| LucidFox | shahab_sh> Only at your own risk. And you're EXTREMELY likely to meet dependency hell. | 05:48 |
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| shahab_sh | LucidFox: look, i dont have high speed internet and i just have 1 ubuntu cd. its very difficult for me to download some packages but i have 3dvds of debian etch. now i wanna use the dvds for ubuntu. | 06:01 |
| shahab_sh | now do i meet dependency hell?? | 06:02 |
| shahab_sh | :-/ | 06:02 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, i saw that sparc and ia64 failed due to unmet dependencies. Is that my fault? | 06:03 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: URL? | 06:03 |
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| DarkSun88 | Hi all | 06:03 |
| jwendell | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8551695/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-sparc.pidgin-libnotify_0.13-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 06:04 |
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| Hobbsee | jwendell: yes you should | 06:05 |
| Hobbsee | although it's probably gtk+2.0 that is broken on sparc | 06:05 |
| jwendell | same for ia64 | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 06:06 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, what must i do? | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | there's a new source in the archives, it seems, so that may fix it | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | if it's gtk, either fix the gtk (or wait for teh new source binaries to build) | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | or ignore it | 06:06 |
| leonel | http://www.phoronix.com/?page=news_item&px=NTkxNA <-- This is Great | 06:07 |
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| jwendell | Hobbsee, ok, i'll wait | 06:09 |
| Hobbsee | jwendell: yeah, gtk fails on sparc | 06:10 |
| Hobbsee | so the rest probably will too - ie, anything that depends on it | 06:10 |
| jwendell | indeed | 06:10 |
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| Ash-Fox | Linden lab needs to stop making their client requirements change. Each time theres a new version I end up redoing a ot of the package get it to compile again under pbuilder | 06:19 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, could you please remove supertuxkart_0.3-0ubuntu1.dsc again? I'm going to try it again :) | 06:21 |
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| Hobbsee | jwendell: done | 06:22 |
| jwendell | Hobbsee, thanks! | 06:22 |
| geser | Hobbsee: have you some time to review (and upload) bug #87077? | 06:23 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 87077 in scons "The build of xmms2 fails because of HASH(0x82db558)="" in the environment" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87077 | 06:23 |
| Hobbsee | ewww, i'm not touching scons. | 06:23 |
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| geser | ok, who should I ask instead? | 06:25 |
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| Hobbsee | the last uploader of scons | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | oh, no one from ubuntu is sane enough to touch it | 06:25 |
| geser | :) Uploaded By: Ubuntu Archive Auto-Sync | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | broonie: would be able to tell you if it's sane | 06:25 |
| geser | guess who provided that patch (the first debdiff) | 06:26 |
| Hobbsee | geser: in fact, broonie would probably want to upload that to debian. | 06:26 |
| LucidFox | Hobbsee> Why such a knee-jerk reaction to scons? | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | LucidFox: because i dislike scons | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | hmm, looks OK. guess i can sponsor | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | LucidFox: because i know that i'll have to merge the rotten thing in gutsy+1 | 06:28 |
| broonie | If this is the patch to fix interop with the launchpad buildds I wrote the patch :/ | 06:28 |
| geser | yes, that's the patch | 06:29 |
| Hobbsee | broonie: yeah, just noticed. | 06:29 |
| broonie | Ideally I'd get upstream fixed. | 06:29 |
| Hobbsee | broonie: were you going to upload that to debian too? | 06:29 |
| === Hobbsee uploads | ||
| geser | I've tested a patched scons and two packages which fail with the unpatched one on PPA | 06:29 |
| geser | and they both build now | 06:29 |
| Hobbsee | if the debian maintainer wrote the patch, then i trust it. | 06:29 |
| geser | Hobbsee: thanks | 06:30 |
| Hobbsee | no problem | 06:30 |
| === Hobbsee feels dirty now | ||
| Nafallo | oooh :-) | 06:31 |
| === Nafallo wakes up | ||
| broonie | I wasn't going to upload immediately - ideally I'd fix upstream or convert to use a patch system before I add mroe patches. | 06:31 |
| Hobbsee | point | 06:31 |
| broonie | OTOH it's a relatively pressing issue for you guys so Ubuntu could use a quick fix. | 06:32 |
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| Hobbsee | yeah, fair enough | 06:32 |
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| geser | Hi dholbach | 06:55 |
| dholbach | hey geser | 06:56 |
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| bur[n] er | greetings all... anyone know if xtightvncviewer 1.3.9 is on deck for inclusion in gutsy? 1.2.9 is there currently | 07:44 |
| geser | only if someone packages it, Debian has still 1.2.9 | 07:44 |
| bur[n] er | oh rrrright, forgot it has to be in debian :) /me hopes someone packages it | 07:45 |
| AndyP | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=424077 | 07:45 |
| ubotu | Debian bug 424077 in xtightvncviewer "xtightvncviewer: new upstream stable release 1.3.9 available" [Wishlist,Open] | 07:46 |
| bur[n] er | cool, thanks AndyP, i'm hoping the new tightvnc helps my https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vnc4/+bug/123631 problem | 07:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 123631 in vnc4 "vncviewer -listen allows connections from UltraVNC SC clients, but doesn't display the window" [Undecided,New] | 07:47 |
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| leonel | there's been some noise about 6.06.2 any info on the release plans ? | 07:54 |
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| NeilW | REVU requested for vim-rails: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6132 | 09:18 |
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| AndyP | ooh, polls for the uvf team | 09:56 |
| === AndyP waits for bribes :) | ||
| === jussi01 kick AndyP in the pants... you should know better :P | ||
| AndyP | jussi01: i only vote for those who *don't* offer bribes ;) | 09:57 |
| ScottK | AndyP should ask if the pollees prefer to win or lose. | 09:58 |
| jussi01 | lol | 09:58 |
| norsetto | ***norsetto sits down, open a popcorn sack and enjoy the show | 09:58 |
| AndyP | ScottK: what's your preference? | 09:58 |
| ScottK | That we have a good UVF team. If there are enough people better, then fine. I don't care much. | 09:58 |
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| AndyP | a few extra conscientious members couldn't hurt though | 10:03 |
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| zorg_the_false | q. is there a channel for the motu multimedia team ? | 10:09 |
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| infinito | does anyone know why seahorse fails signing packages built using debuild? | 10:19 |
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| geser | infinito: feisty or gutsy? | 10:20 |
| infinito | geser: feisty | 10:20 |
| geser | bug #78165 | 10:21 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 78165 in devscripts "debuild fails to use seahorse-agent or gpg-agent" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78165 | 10:21 |
| geser | there is also a workaround which should work on feisty | 10:22 |
| ScottK | infinito: That or just sign with debsign. | 10:22 |
| infinito | thanks! | 10:24 |
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| guardian | hi | 10:30 |
| guardian | were could i find support about debian multiple binary packages please ? | 10:30 |
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| AndyP | guardian: anything about multiple binary packages in particular or just how to package them? | 10:31 |
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| guardian | well i'm starting knowing how to making multiple packages: typical use case is some program that comes with bunch of data that can be splitted | 10:32 |
| guardian | however, i found no information about versioning: if only the executable changes, will data package versions change ? | 10:32 |
| AndyP | guardian: in multiple binary packages, yes, the version is taken from the changelog... some packages have separate -data packages, which can have a different version | 10:34 |
| guardian | so if i want to allow different versions for executable and data, i need to make standalone packages right ? | 10:35 |
| guardian | 1 for the executable, and 1 per data pack ? | 10:35 |
| man-di | guardian: you dont need to, but its much easier to do | 10:35 |
| AndyP | guardian: yes, as i understand it | 10:35 |
| guardian | man-di: what's the other option ? | 10:36 |
| man-di | guardian: writing the whole logic to determine the version numbers for the packages yourself | 10:36 |
| man-di | guardian: which is a major pain | 10:36 |
| guardian | :) | 10:36 |
| guardian | i see | 10:36 |
| zorg_the_false | debuild -uc -us -b <- when i do that, it always clean all the previous compiled .o, aka i recompile everything instead of the .o what need to be recompiled. any way i could avoid this clean ? | 10:37 |
| man-di | zorg_the_false: to avoid clean, use -nc | 10:38 |
| zorg_the_false | man-di: thanks | 10:38 |
| guardian | also i have another question which may be dumb :/ i followed the maintainer guide which instructs how to take a source tar.gz file and debianize it by creating package-version directory then invoking dh_make etc ... is there a way to have a debian directory right into my project (beside src dir ?) ? so that version is taken from configure.ac ? | 10:38 |
| man-di | zorg_the_false: but beware this can clutter the resulting packages | 10:38 |
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| zorg_the_false | man-di: how so ? | 10:38 |
| man-di | guardian: thats really not recommended for several reasons | 10:39 |
| man-di | guardian: I would file bugs about this against upstream | 10:39 |
| man-di | guardian: as it makes packaging for a distro much harder | 10:39 |
| guardian | you mean for a non debian disto ? | 10:39 |
| man-di | guardian: no, another debian based distro | 10:40 |
| man-di | guardian: you get diffs for the debian dir, thats a big pain | 10:40 |
| guardian | in fact i would like to avoid doing what's explained inside maintainer guide again and again for each version i release | 10:40 |
| guardian | it's a maemo package (nokia n800) | 10:40 |
| guardian | so it's not aimed to run elswhere | 10:40 |
| guardian | it's not meant to run elsewhere | 10:41 |
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| man-di | guardian: the maintainer guide is only about initial packaging | 10:41 |
| man-di | guardian: you dont need to redo it each time, just updated the package, uupdate is your friend | 10:42 |
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| man-di | guardian: for most software an upstream update is done in 5 minutes in the debian package | 10:42 |
| guardian | maybe i missed something then. i had foo directory. i made foo-0.1 and followed the maintainer guide. now relevant stuff is in foo-0.1/debian | 10:42 |
| man-di | zorg_the_false: becuase uncleaned files and so | 10:43 |
| guardian | where should i keep what's generated in foo-0.1 then ? | 10:43 |
| guardian | i don't want to write copyritght files again and again | 10:43 |
| man-di | guardian: you dont need to | 10:43 |
| guardian | ah you mean i keep the 0.1 package then update it ? | 10:43 |
| man-di | cd foo-0.1 ; uupdate ../foo-0.2.tar.gz ; debuild ; dput | 10:43 |
| man-di | guardian: thats mainly it | 10:43 |
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| guardian | ok | 10:44 |
| man-di | guardian: as long as foo-0.2.tar.gz doesnt ship a debian dir | 10:44 |
| zorg_the_false | man-di: ok | 10:44 |
| guardian | and is foo-0.1 supposed to be included in SCM ? what's generally done ? | 10:45 |
| broonie | guardian: Depends. Some people keep only debian/ but most import all of upstream. | 10:46 |
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| broonie | The foo-buildpackage documentation will have standard workflows for each SCM. | 10:46 |
| RainCT | what's a .desktop.in file? a disabled one? | 10:47 |
| broonie | RainCT: .in files are usually processed by the configure script with some configuration it worked out. | 10:47 |
| man-di | RainCT: a file that will be processed and become a .desktop file | 10:47 |
| RainCT | ah ok, thanks | 10:48 |
| guardian | well in fact i don't want foo-0.1/src to be in SCM or any other source/header/makefile etc | 10:48 |
| man-di | RainCT: some placeholders will be replaced in it | 10:48 |
| man-di | guardian: you dont need to | 10:48 |
| guardian | so only foo-0.1/debian | 10:50 |
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| RainCT | someone knows why always I debuild something it says /bin/pwd: can't open directory ../../../../../..: Permission denied ? | 10:58 |
| xxxxx1 | ScottK, PM? | 11:00 |
| calc | i sent a core dev application in 10 days ago and only got one response back so far is there anything else i need to do? | 11:00 |
| ScottK | xxxxx1: If it's quick. | 11:00 |
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| guardian | broonie: when you say foo-buildpackage, you refer to cvs-buildpackage or svn-buildpackage ? | 11:07 |
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| RainCT | does simple-patchsys automatically apply al patches from debian/patches/? | 11:10 |
| ScottK | RainCT: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PatchingSources | 11:11 |
| RainCT | thanks | 11:12 |
| RainCT | well but that command basically only adds a .patch to debian/patches, or? | 11:18 |
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| infinito | does MOTU created packages get overwritten when syncing from debian? | 11:25 |
| ScottK | Yes | 11:25 |
| ScottK | If a Ubuntu change needs to be preserved, then you do a merge instead. | 11:25 |
| guardian | thank you very much for your detailed answers guy. was much appreciated | 11:41 |
| guardian | bye :) | 11:41 |
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| RainCT | good night all | 11:58 |
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| mohammad | could anyone please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6052 for me? | 12:02 |
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| ScottK | mohammad: Does it still doe the mozilla init stuff? | 12:12 |
| mohammad | ScottK: the copyright issues are completely resolved but not the mozilla init stuff | 12:12 |
| mohammad | ScottK: do you have any suggestion for me? | 12:13 |
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