[12:15] hmm. Any sbuilders have any idea what I can do to fix http://pastebin.ca/626606? === tupa [n=tupa@201-167-108-67-cable.cybercable.net.mx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@125.212.12.179] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] good night === ogra_ [n=ogra@ip2.fa1-0-2.occ.iinet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:39] nite RainCT === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving."] === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-082-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === norsetto [n=norsetto@host93-197-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elektranox [n=elektran@p5481BF6C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-056-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === norsetto [n=norsetto@host93-197-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === twanj [n=chatzill@c-75-74-146-27.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sharon [n=sharon@NV315189-more6.fix.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sharon [n=sharon@NV315189-more6.fix.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CarlF1 [n=carl@adsl-75-57-179-33.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] hi, i'm an ubuntu user and i wish to alter it. i want it to resume after suspend by pressing any key and without providing password. can any one direct me to implement this? === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bmm [n=bram@cc400801-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jazzva [n=sasa@cable-89-216-184-157.dynamic.sbb.co.yu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [GruncH] [n=gruncho@190-76-16-77.dyn.movilnet.com.ve] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] hmm. Any sbuilders have any idea what I can do to fix http://pastebin.ca/626606? [03:20] ryanakca: Use pbuilder? [03:21] ScottK: so, sbuild will not work in any way shape or form for 'all'? [03:21] ryanakca: sbuild -A [03:21] ryanakca: Dunno. Never used it. [03:22] StevenK: aha! thanks :D === dcsmith_ [n=dcsmith@ool-4351bc6d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@125.212.12.179] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@cl-266.bru-01.be.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === brylie [n=brylie@CPE-75-81-100-187.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] Hello MOTU's: Could you please comment/first advocate Ampache. Thank You http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6131 === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@cl-266.bru-01.be.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] ooh, Amache. i've been meaning to try that out at some point [04:49] cool [04:49] (i'm not a MOTU though, so can't push the upload through) [04:50] more eyes the better === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@cl-266.bru-01.be.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:29] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/07/msg00010.html === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:29] white: trying to drag people away from ubuntu? :) [05:29] hello Hobbsee [05:30] Hey Hobbsee, ajmitch [05:30] VISTA SP1 BUILD 1711! WHOO! [05:30] ;-) [05:30] hello RAOF [05:31] And a hello to you too, crackmeister jdong :) [05:31] why hello, RAOF :) [05:31] ajmitch: just sharing the release party thoughts :) [05:31] oh dear [05:31] hey ajmitch! [05:31] !jdong | jdong [05:31] jdong: jdong is Hobbsee: jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK! [05:31] ajmitch: wondeful timing. Last night released, here was College party and tonight as well. I just have 1 lecture and none tomorrow :) [05:31] RE-O-Week :) [05:31] Hobbsee: the bot seems to have learned english as a 4th or 8th language :) [05:32] release party? that might be fun [05:32] heh [05:32] Hobbsee: well i consider the college party as my personal release party :) [05:32] ahhh === RAOF wonders how hard he should try to break nouveau [05:39] glxgears [05:39] poof? [05:39] Fails to break my nouveau. It even works. [05:39] that's amazing [05:39] beryl! [05:40] Nouveau doesn't even begin to support a GL compositing manager. There's no texturing yet :) === RAOF ponders wistfully that xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is probably a *bit* too raw for universe. [05:44] No one would have any problems with a git snapshot video driver and drm in universe, would they :P. [05:45] not at all [05:45] the nouveau guys would probably hate you if you stuck it in [05:46] ubotu] jdong: jdong is Hobbsee: [05:46] I'll remember that, nixternal [05:46] WOW! [05:46] no [05:46] stupid bot === minghua is under the impression that nothing is too raw for universe. :-) [05:46] @deleditor nixternal [05:46] that bot killed my joke [05:46] %deleditor nixternal [05:47] the whole "jdong is Hobbsee" was the whole part of it [05:47] lol [05:47] but obviously I copied a lil to much [05:47] !jdong [05:47] jdong is Hobbsee: jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK! [05:47] !forget jdong: jdong [05:47] I'll forget that, Hobbsee [05:47] !forget Hobbsee, she's mean. [05:47] hahahah [05:47] ow! [05:47] haha [05:47] grr, I just realised you deleted me :( [05:48] poor nixternal [05:48] I don't know what you're complaining about, I've never been an editor :P [05:48] always getting picked on [05:48] ajmitch: I am one every other month, and then people *cought*Hobbsee*cough* remove me :p [05:49] Hobbsee wouldn't be that mean [05:49] nah, i just havent added you prior to this === nixternal turns and walks away from commenting [05:49] who mentioned Vista? [05:49] !vista [05:49] vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org [05:49] nice [05:50] crimsun: did you have vista on highlight? [05:50] !nixternal [05:50] Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! [05:50] man you have everything on highlight [05:50] alsa.. kernel.... [05:50] no, I have nixternal on highlight so I know when to avoid the audio issues. === jdong ducks for cover [05:51] haha [05:51] crimsun: speaking of 3rd generation macbook audio.... [05:51] crimsun: haha no just kidding, it works great [05:51] ya, I switched to Debian, so my audio is working again ;p [05:52] hmm, no, that's a Debian vm running in Vista. [05:52] no, tried that already...doesn't work to well === man-di_ [n=mkoch@dyndsl-080-228-197-130.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:00] nixternal: muhahhahahahaha [06:00] *now* you're removed. [06:01] ;( [06:02] nixternal: how on earth do you sad wink? have you ever tried it? [06:02] ya, it works well actually [06:03] kind of the puppy dog look, with a "you know you love me" wink [06:04] nixternal: you must have very good motor control then to be able to frown and wink :) [06:04] ;( [06:06] there, you did it! === LucidFox [n=LucidFox@wikia/Sikon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:12] nixternal: LOL the guy at the terminal next to me just asked me "WTF are you trying to do?" [06:12] nixternal: I quickly hid this terminal behind a firefox and said "nuthin.." === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13] hehe [06:13] use Yakuake, a simple keystroke and it disappears === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger [n=me@N818P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] Hello MOTU's: Could you please comment/first advocate Ampache. Thank You http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6131 === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:21] GUI applications aren't required to have manpages, are they? [07:22] If it's in /usr/bin, it should have a manpage [07:24] Heya folks. [07:24] Hey TheMuso [07:28] hi luke! === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _16aR_ [n=dolanor@unaffiliated/16ar/x-367395] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@203.131.87.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@203.131.87.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jeromeg [n=jerome@gra94-2-82-66-142-60.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-a8525dec75461703] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@203.131.87.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] when requesting a sync we should as a sync for the source package, or the binary one ? === jeromeg as just seen the wiki page... [08:47] s/as/has/ [08:48] jeromeg> source [08:48] because it will be rebuilt on Ubuntu anyway [08:48] We don't upload binary packages. [08:48] thank goodness. [08:49] If we did it would take calc twice as long to torture us with openoffice.org! [08:49] lol [08:50] can someone review? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6135 [08:50] StevenK: is volunteering [08:50] Funnily enough, I'm so not. === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-244-242-211.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@cl-266.bru-01.be.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:00] LucidFox: thx [09:01] could someone have a look at my sync request please ? bug 127672 [09:01] Launchpad bug 127672 in cal3d "[Sync Request] Please sync cal3d (0.11.0-2) from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127672 === ivoks [n=ivoks@3-183.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:02] I need this package to be synced to fix a bunch of bugs with python-soya [09:02] (well to update the python-soya package [09:02] ) [09:03] python-soya has been updated ... [09:03] I uploaded it last night ... [09:03] jeromeg: oh, you didnt follow sync requesting procedures [09:03] jeromeg: approved. will be synced in the next few days hopefully [09:04] The new soya should be on the mirrors [09:04] StevenK: well it doesn't build on my pbuilder due to libcal3d12 missing [09:05] python-soya was a merge, not a sync [09:05] Hobbsee: I don't understand, what should have I followed ? [09:05] It built on the buildds, and has probably hit mirrors. Ergo, you don't need to build it. [09:05] StevenK: mmm, ok. [09:07] StevenK: oh great ! I've just seen it, I will have a look to see if it fixes the bugs. [09:07] StevenK: thx a lot ! [09:09] jeromeg: hmm.. documentation seems to have been moved, or i cant find it [09:10] jeromeg: subscribe "ubuntu-universe-sponsors", basically, and the sponsor team will look at it [09:10] Hobbsee: I tried to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess , could you tell me what I did wrong ? [09:11] To request a sync, [WWW] file a bug in Launchpad with the above information. Once the bug is complete and correct, if you are not an Ubuntu developer, subscribe (NOT assign) ubuntu-main-sponsors for packages in Main/Restricted and ubuntu-universe-sponsors for packages in Universe/Multiverse. They will review the request and subscribe ubuntu-archive. Ubuntu developers should subscribe (NOT assign) the ubuntu-archive team to the bug directly. [09:11] This team will process the request and close the bug when it is complete. Please only subscribe ubuntu-archive to a bug once you have a clear action for the archive team to perform. Do not ask ubuntu-archive to help you decide what to do. [09:11] jeromeg: first paragraph under "submitting your request" [09:11] Hobbsee: oh yes.... sorry [09:11] cant say i like the term "Ubuntu Developer" there, though. === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-51-151.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:12] it should explicitly say "those who are in ~ubuntu-dev [09:12] no problem === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:13] Hobbsee: ok [09:15] as not all developers are MOTU's or in core dev === paras [n=paras@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:20] channel, where can i find the resourcr on localization of ubiquity ? === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:34] to solve bug 114534, what is the most appropriate, SRU with the two patches or backport of gutsy version ? [09:34] Launchpad bug 114534 in gimmie "Suggested patches for gimmie" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114534 === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-218-200.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hma [n=hma@cust.static.213-180-168-254.cybernet.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] anyone please ? [09:47] jeromeg: *Maybe* an SRU. Backports aren't for bugfixes. [09:53] RAOF : ok I'll try that [10:01] What does "triaged" mean? === gizmo [n=gizmo@p578b708f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:02] That someone trusted (ie: with the ability to change a bug to triaged :)) believes that all the necessary info to fix the bug is there. [10:05] Hello MOTU's: Could you please comment/first advocate Ampache. Thank You :) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6131 === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:05] anyone got a fix for firefox 2.0.0.5 quicksearch? === RAOF wonders whether porthose is really a bot :) [10:06] no just persistent:) [10:06] heh [10:07] did anyone elses break on the latest upgrade in feisty? [10:07] firefox_2.0.0.5+1-0ubuntu1 === RAOF wonders whether anyone in this channel are still running feisty [10:07] RAOF: maybe some crazy ones [10:07] RAOF: gutsy is fscked on my laptop [10:08] has been for ages [10:08] it randomly locks up [10:08] This week in Nouveau news: RENDER acceleration works fine, and compositing with xcompmgr works brilliantly. [10:08] i update every day in the hope it stabilises [10:09] i cant update this box because its running my tv === Sindwiller [n=sindwill@84-75-101-114.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@203.131.87.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:25] wnat could be causing gutsy to go unresponsive? === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:45] jmg: random lockups? [10:45] jmg: xfce? [10:45] jmg: i see that you are in fact running xfce [10:45] jmg: it's a bug with xfwm4 and gtk+ 2.11.x, upstream has a fix [10:47] jmg: run compiz and the problem will go away ;) [10:47] or, really, any other WM, i guess === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:55] what does "+1" mean in firefox_2.0.0.5+1-0ubuntu1? === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:10] compiz [11:11] ok thanks [11:11] i have enough ram to run gnome now [11:11] ill install it tomorrow [11:11] dont think my i910 can handle compiz [11:17] jmg: Sure it can. [11:18] jmg: My i855 can. :) === jekil [n=alessand@host228-234-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:31] is it okay to use chrpath in debian/rules? === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueCommand [n=blueComm@unaffiliated/bluecommand] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sindwiller [n=sindwill@84-75-101-114.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.231.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:46] Hello MOTU's: Could you please comment/first advocate Ampache. Thank You :) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6131 [12:07] porthose: Could you switch /usr/share/ampache/config/ampache.cfg.php and ./etc/ampache/ampache.cfg.php around? I.e. make the former a symlink to the latter rather than vice versa? [12:07] sure === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:13] soren: done === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:14] porthose: cool. [12:20] can a motu please review my debdiff for bug 52726 (it's attached there, please comment there any problems) ? [12:20] Launchpad bug 52726 in php-image-canvas "Missing file referred to in /usr/share/php/Image/Canvas/Color.php" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52726 [12:40] soren: dput new source now? [12:42] porthose: Sure. [12:42] anyone have the link to bite sized bugs? [12:44] jeromeg: Um... php-image-color does not exist? [12:44] nevermind [12:45] soren: dput new source done :) === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === marnanel [n=marnanel@pinkstuff.publication.org.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === IanC26 [n=IanC26@124.148.100.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sahin_w [n=KT@210.216.53.194] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-056-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] soren: new changes are showing on REVU if you would like to comment/advocate :) === white [n=white@debian/developer/white] has joined #ubuntu-motu === statik [n=emurphy@canonical/launchpad/statik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rraphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] porthose: /usr/share/ampache/config/ampache.cfg.php is now a link to /etc/ampache/ampache.cfg.php, but the config file seems to be named ./etc/ampache/ampache.conf . [01:31] TheMuso: Around? === birthdaylogger [n=me@N733P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:34] soren: ampache.cfg.php is the main configuration file for ampache which is generated with the web interface, do I also need to link ampache.conf to /etc/ampache? === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] porthose: Configuration files belong in /etc/. [01:36] Good morning folks! [01:36] is ftp.revu offline ? [01:36] porthose: During any sort of normal operations, /usr should be read-only. [01:36] porthose: The exception being when dpkg is running. [01:38] k will fix those === norsetto [n=norsetto@87.19.210.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:44] is ftp.revu offline ? [01:44] jwendell: it works for me [01:45] someone looking me? [01:45] hmmm, i'll check my firewall, thanks, siretart [01:45] Any kind soul wishing to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6130 ? === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dharrigan [n=david@host12.williamhill.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lmr__ [n=lmr@201.82.77.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jonh_wendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] soren: changes made, new source dput to REVU === cassidy [n=cassidy@44.201-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] if there is a debdiff that fixes two bugs, is it necessary to create a new one or is it enough if it's just attached to one and the other gets a link to it? === ivoks [n=ivoks@89-172-31-221.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] (they are just two little things so I don't think it would make sense to open a new one because of them) === infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] What team should I subscribe to bugs in Qt4? [02:11] LucidFox: None. Figure the bug contacts are correct. [02:12] Good morning all. === StevenK waves to ScottK === ScottK waves back to StevenK === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:18] Hi Scott === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu.member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === keyes_ [n=keyes@easyubuntu/keyes] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Ubuntu-motu [02:21] hello, have a problem while building a package : i've run dh_make and filled files in debian/ but when running debuild i've debuild: fatal error at line 617: problem executing dpkg-parsechangelog | grep: === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-143-235-27.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] when opening debian/changelog with vim i've a lot of : Error detected while processing function 16_MakeMenu: line 1: [02:23] with Gedit or other it's the normal file :| [02:24] StevenK: I am now... === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-84-20.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee waves [02:25] Evening Hobbsee [02:25] hey Hobbsee [02:25] g'day Hob === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu.member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] :) [02:27] TheMuso: thanks for your comment in bug #127397 Luke. Is the proposed change acceptable? [02:27] Launchpad bug 127397 in rt2500 "Merge rt2500 1.1.0-b4-4 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127397 [02:28] norsetto: I'd need to look at it again, and I am currently not in a position to do so at the moment. [02:28] TheMuso: np, thanks === xxxxx1 [n=xxxxx1@44125.static.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:33] morning all! :D === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:34] TheMuso: zul norsetto :) === vbabiy [n=vbabiy@pool-71-164-85-238.albyny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matysek [n=matysek@39.Red-83-40-70.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] Hi, i did an upload that was interrupted, now i want to upload again but i receive an error 'Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of supertuxkart_0.3-0ubuntu1.dsc' [02:45] i've tried dcut to remove that file on server, but it seems to not work [02:46] dcut doesnt work on revu [02:46] oh, that's what i was going to do. patch that out [02:46] Don't do that. [02:46] All you'll do is annoy DDs who use Ubuntu machines to upload to Debian. [02:46] or add a message that say "dont try this on ubuntu hosts, such as revu and upload.ubuntu.com" [02:47] that was my preferred option === birthdaylogger [n=me@N733P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] jwendell: fixed [02:48] Hobbsee: I like that option much better. [02:49] Hobbsee, can i upload now? [02:49] jwendell: yes === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] Hobbsee, thanks [02:51] Hobbsee, that orig.gz has about 20MB... that's a bit big :) [02:51] heh [02:57] Any MOTU hopefuls (or MOTUs for that matter ;-)) want to practice security uploads? [02:57] ScottK: yea [02:58] I don't need to practise. :-P [02:58] See Bug #127718. I'll be glad to help/advise. [02:58] Launchpad bug 127718 in lighttpd "lighttpd security fixes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127718 [02:58] looking [02:58] StevenK: I wouldn't imagine you would, but IIRC we have MOTUs that have never done a security upload. === Hobbsee hasnt. havent needed to [02:59] Personally, I consider it an esoteric skill [02:59] oh wait, yes i have. [02:59] as long as you remember the CVE syntax [03:00] LP has forgotten me again :( [03:00] ScottK: you *do* realise that we have a copule of MOTU's who have never done a NEW package either? [03:00] Yes I do. [03:00] I even know who at least one of them is. [03:00] Me, me. [03:00] :-P [03:01] hehe [03:01] StevenK: You were after me earlier/ [03:01] ScottK: ditto for cores... [03:01] ScottK: ditto for core devs.. [03:01] TheMuso: Yup. You might be interested in bug 127705 [03:01] Launchpad bug 127705 in compiz "compiz doesn't "talk" when switching windows" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127705 [03:02] hah I have done several security uploads thank you very much === ivoks [n=ivoks@89-172-31-221.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] StevenK: Yes I would be, I'll have a look at it soonish. I reckon that if accessibility is enabled, we disable compiz, but I'll take that up with the devs when I'm ready. === xxxxx1 [n=xxxxx1@44125.static.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] ScottK: should I backport lighthttpd to dapper / feisty? Or patch-patch-patch... === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] coNP: Patch, patch, patch. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] Hobbsee, my uploaded failed again, i think due to the size of the file [03:06] Hobbsee, is there another way to upload them? [03:07] ScottK: is this for dapper or feisty? [03:07] jwendell: dont think so [03:07] coNP: You need to check dapper/edgy/feisty and then gutsy to make sure relevant issues are fixed. [03:08] oh, cool [03:08] jwendell: removed [03:09] Hobbsee, yesterday i managed to upload, but i did it on upload.ubuntu.com (my mistake) :) [03:09] ahhh [03:09] well, anywhere that you can upload is basically good. *shrugs* [03:09] it wont show on revu, etc === jwendell is going to do the 3rd try [03:10] Hobbsee, after that upload i received an email about 'not authorized' :) [03:10] indeed [03:11] :) === jekil [n=alessand@host228-234-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sommer [n=sommer@192.154.64.85] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matysek [n=matysek@39.Red-83-40-70.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@ubuntu/member/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] Hi all [03:30] Hobbsee: Thanks for the help. Can you give this one more look over? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6123 === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@121.97.250.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] evand: sure === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.102.113] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] why dget does not work for LP? === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@115.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] Since different components of the source are stored in different directory due to how Launchpad's Librarian organises things. [03:35] q. i have vlc compiled from trunk and would like to create a .deb for it. any hint on how i can do that ? === radhios [n=radhios@200.47.67.169] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] then how can I make this unpack & patch my sources? [03:36] I got orig.tar.gz and .dsc and .diff.gz [03:36] use dpkg-source -x foo.dsc [03:36] wow, thanks Hobbsee [03:37] zorglu_: what about the MOTU package update recipe (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Recipes/PackageUpdate)? [03:38] coNP: thanks, looking :) === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jazzva [n=sasa@cable-89-216-184-157.dynamic.sbb.co.yu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] evand: uploaded :) [03:50] Hobbsee: wonderful! thanks [03:50] no problem :) === Hobbsee archives === tobiasschulz [n=tobias@ACAECF6D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] Does someone feel like reviewing? ^_^ [03:56] evand: http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-bluetooth/0.9/gnome-bluetooth-0.9.1.tar.gz :D [03:57] ...ARR! [03:59] haha [03:59] poor evand [04:00] it is an easy update, though [04:00] indeed, on it [04:00] just a single bug fix === matysek [n=matysek@39.Red-83-40-70.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:09] hmm i have to install pbuilder to rebuild vlc :) [04:09] zorglu_: you don't *have to* ... :) [04:10] asisak: really ? im reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Recipes/PackageUpdate and it end with a sudo pbuilder build brasero_0.5.90-0ubuntu1.dsc [04:10] asisak: i dont have pbuilder, how can i do without ? [04:10] zorglu_: yea, it is the recommended way if you want to make sure the package compiles with exactly the listed dependencies [04:11] asisak: ok and if i dont care ? :) [04:11] zorglu_: for your own use you can use e.g. debuild -uc -us -b [04:11] ok trying :) thanks [04:11] don't forget to run "apt-get build-dep vlc" before that [04:12] asisak: ok, i did that already :) the stuff already compiles fine, the point is to get a ubuntu package now :) [04:13] cool :) [04:14] 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- rejects in file modules/misc/freetype.c <- bouhou === zorglu_ is sad :) [04:15] You say, smiling [04:15] zorglu_: have a look at the patch, might be from SVN, i.e. not needed any more [04:16] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6149 If any sponsors have a moment to look it over, I'd very much appreciate it. [04:16] yes, please help poor evand :D [04:16] :) [04:17] is it okay to use chrpath in debian/rules to remove rpaths from executables? [04:18] asisak: is there an debuild option to ignore patch error ? or should i manually edit the diff ? [04:19] zorglu_: you should check the patches [04:19] evand: looks fine === tuxmaniac [n=tuxmania@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee testbuilds [04:20] asisak: building this pacakge seems a LOT of works :) [04:21] asisak: i will try another way. like static building :) [04:21] static building of a mozilla package, youhou :) [04:21] zorglu_: it is a hard way, but you can learn a lot from that [04:21] LucidFox: link? === hroo772 [n=hroo772@63.210.44.7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:23] Hobbsee> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6063 [04:23] or actually [04:23] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6138 [04:23] as it's the newer upload [04:24] maybe I should note that I am the upstream maintainer, so any comments like "ask upstream to..." can be directed to me ^_^ [04:25] i dont get how you guys can handle that many packages with such procedures :) === zorglu_ is in awe :) [04:25] zorglu_: Magic. [04:26] LucidFox: who's got copyright for years 04-06? [04:26] zorglu_: vlc uses quilt [04:26] zorglu_: so patches are easy to edit [04:26] asisak: quilt = ? [04:26] zorglu_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PatchingSources [04:27] all that because of a silly bug in mozzila-plugin-vlc :) if( (c < 'a') || (c > 'z') ) is in the source but this should accept number too :) [04:28] lol [04:28] Hobbsee> It was abandoned since 2003, so I took over. [04:29] ah right [04:29] +License: [04:29] should not be blank [04:30] at least from the homepage, it's gpl v2, not v2 or later [04:30] the copyright notice headers said v2 or later [04:30] +The printer icon is part of the Crystal project,(C) Everaldo Coelho [04:30] +and the Crystal users community. These icons are released inder the GPL. [04:30] i'm fairly sure they're LGPL [04:30] how can I check? [04:31] visit the website [04:31] i'm not sure if you need to actually specify which those files or directories are, either [04:31] Ah, that's odd. [04:32] It does say LGPL, but it's light text on a light background, while the dark header boldly says "GNU General Public License" [04:32] So it confused me. [04:32] As for the files, I'll specify the exact paths. [04:33] Since I'll have to edit debian/copyright anyway. [04:34] you dont need the sample stuff at the top of the rules file, either [04:34] and that's an odd way to find hte debian directory, i think [04:34] but it looks pretty goo [04:34] d [04:34] odd way? [04:35] just havent seen it used before [04:35] Hobbsee: Share? [04:36] what's the "proper" way? [04:36] +DEBIAN_DIR = $(shell echo ${MAKEFILE_LIST} | awk '{print $$1}' | xargs dirname ) [04:36] StevenK: ^ [04:36] ARGH [04:36] MY EYES [04:36] Hmm. [04:36] haha [04:36] $(CURDIR)/debian [04:36] That's odd. It isn't actually used. [04:37] if it's not used explicitly in debian/rules itself, may I delete it? [04:39] Hobbsee, i quit [04:39] jwendell: :( [04:39] LucidFox: i assume so.... [04:39] Hobbsee, i can't upload the big file :( [04:39] Hobbsee, anyway, could you see another upload? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6150 [04:42] jwendell: why the makefile modifications in the diff? === zorglu_ is now known as zorg_the_false [04:42] hmm === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@ubuntu/member/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] Hobbsee, i don't know :( [04:43] presumably a clean rule hasnt been run, or something? === CarlF1 [n=carl@ip67-153-238-154.z238-153-67.customer.algx.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] i just got the debian dir for 0.12 and changed it for 0.13 (and made a new patch) [04:44] Hobbsee, should i remove that non-debian-dir stuff from diff ? [04:45] oh, it runs autohell during build. [04:45] haha [04:45] autohell :) [04:46] jwendell: can you do a debdiff | diffstat > foo, and pastebin taht somewhere? [04:47] sure [04:47] Hobbsee, are you talking about the diff for 0.12 (previous version)? [04:47] and also without the | diffstat part, but with the rest of the command [04:47] yep [04:50] jwendell: please also fix debian bug 433403 [04:50] Debian bug 433403 in libgnomeprint15 "libgnomeprint15: Uninstallable: binNMUd." [Serious,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/433403 [04:50] jwendell: please also fix debian bug 433407 [04:50] Debian bug 433407 in pidgin-libnotify "pidgin-libnotify: needs stricter depends on pidgin" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/433407 [04:51] If an upstream release offers a choice between autotools and cmake, which build system is preferable to use in packaging? [04:52] Hobbsee, http://pastebin.ca/630823 (with |diffstat) [04:52] without diffstat i got a file with 1MB size! [04:53] wouldnt surprise me [04:53] Hobbsee, do you still want to see it on pastebin? [04:54] yes please === fernando_ [n=fernando@189.0.247.83] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:55] Hobbsee, pastebin.ca has a 150KB limit :( [04:56] use rafb.net/paste [04:59] Hobbsee, http://rafb.net/p/toobig.html :) [04:59] hahaha [05:00] oh dear [05:00] jwendell: did you change *anything* outside the debian dir? [05:00] nope [05:01] right === coNP_ [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] jwendell: okay, can you run diff -urN oldsource/debian/ newsource/debian > foo, and pastebin that somewhere please? [05:03] it shouldnt be that big [05:03] one sec === Hobbsee is attempting to get the diff into a reasonable form, as it's easier doing that, than reviewing the entire damned tarball [05:05] Hobbsee, http://pastebin.ca/630839 [05:06] Hobbsee, i just dropped older patch (it was applied upstream), updated changelog, and created a new small patch [05:06] yep [05:06] oh, i changed Maintainer field too [05:06] why is that so much smaller than the debdiff? [05:07] debdiff got the entire tree (including new upstream tarball) [05:07] oh, sure it is only debian/* diff [05:07] coNP: debian/ only === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/pidgin-libnotify-0707231030/pidgin-libnotify_0.13-0ubuntu1.diff which is everything not in the original tarball isnt much help, as it has a whole block of autohell in there === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:09] ScottK: is it a problem if I cannot finish lighttpd for now? I started but now has to go for a while... [05:09] jwendell: looks sane. testbuilding [05:09] Reuploaded qink per Hobbsee's suggestions: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6153 [05:09] coNP: Sooner the better, but whenever you can get it done. [05:09] jwendell: please send the contents of that last pastebin to the debian maintainer, inviting him to use it. [05:10] jwendell: also, please fix the debian bug that i mentioned earlier [05:10] ScottK: okay [05:11] Hobbsee, about that debian bug, i think it's not valid at all: pidgin is going to have its own notify engine, so, pidgin-libnotify will be deprecated at pidgin 2.2 (or 2.3) [05:11] MOTUs: can you check http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6151 please? [05:11] 3.0 is too far [05:11] jwendell: fair enough === Neonightmare [n=neonight@247-27.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@247-27.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:16] Who manages the NEW queue? [05:16] hmm... Any sbuilders have an idea for this? E: Couldn't find package build-essential [05:16] ryanakca> this probably means you don't have mirrors configured properly [05:17] repositories, that is [05:17] LucidFox: archive admins [05:17] ryanakca: build-essentials. [05:17] LucidFox: http://pastebin.ca/630863 [05:18] Hobbsee: it's different in a chroot? apt-cache show build-essential works here, outside my chroot. [05:18] Hobbsee: and I'm getting the samething for devscripts and fakeroot, so I'm guessing it's a messed up schroot [05:18] ryanakca> is it in pbuilder where you get this error? [05:19] ryanakca: ah right. no idea. === Hobbsee doesnt use sbuild and friends [05:19] jwendell: looks sane [05:19] LucidFox: no, schroot/sbuild... see "Entering the chroot" on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SbuildLVMHowto [05:19] Hobbsee, should i update changelog (i forgot to say i changed Maintainer field) ? [05:20] jwendell: probably, but i just hit the big red "upload" button [05:20] probably doesnt matter that much [05:20] haha [05:20] ok then [05:21] ryanakca> ah, sorry, I haven't worked with that [05:21] Hobbsee, does that mean the package was accepted? [05:21] jwendell: you should get an accepted mail === Hobbsee hasnt got one yet [05:21] Hobbsee, thanks [05:21] later i'll try that big upload again === zorg_the_false [n=zorglub@115.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] [05:25] jwendell|lunch: there we go [05:26] good morning! === _16aR_ [n=dolanor@tui75-2-82-66-244-103.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:27] morning Toadstool! [05:28] hey Hobbsee! [05:29] does somebody know if emerald 0.3 works with compiz? [05:30] geser> it does === shahab_sh [n=shahab@82.99.193.159] has joined #ubuntu-motu === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.154.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:30] cool [05:30] but you have to run emerald before compiz, otherwise it will use gtk-w-d or kde-w-d === geser waits till emerald passes NW [05:30] NEW [05:31] so you can't change it afterwards? [05:31] you can with emerald --replace [05:32] as for NEW... it's really slow at times :( [05:33] I hope it's a little faster now as tribe-3 is out of the way [05:34] I'm still waiting for qca2 to be accepted... it's stuck there since July 9 === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] hi [05:39] i have a question about ubuntu packages and repositories [05:39] anyone can help me plz [05:39] can i use debian etch repositories (dvds or ...) in ubuntu? [05:41] shahab_sh: no you can't [05:42] there is no way? === infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tobiasschul1 [n=tobias@ACAECF6D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:44] MOTUs: can you check http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6151 please? === radhios_ [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-19-88.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:48] shahab_sh> Only at your own risk. And you're EXTREMELY likely to meet dependency hell. === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:01] LucidFox: look, i dont have high speed internet and i just have 1 ubuntu cd. its very difficult for me to download some packages but i have 3dvds of debian etch. now i wanna use the dvds for ubuntu. [06:02] now do i meet dependency hell?? [06:02] :-/ [06:03] Hobbsee, i saw that sparc and ia64 failed due to unmet dependencies. Is that my fault? [06:03] jwendell: URL? === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@ubuntu/member/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] Hi all [06:04] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8551695/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-sparc.pidgin-libnotify_0.13-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:05] jwendell: yes you should [06:05] although it's probably gtk+2.0 that is broken on sparc [06:06] same for ia64 [06:06] yeah [06:06] Hobbsee, what must i do? [06:06] there's a new source in the archives, it seems, so that may fix it [06:06] if it's gtk, either fix the gtk (or wait for teh new source binaries to build) [06:06] or ignore it [06:07] http://www.phoronix.com/?page=news_item&px=NTkxNA <-- This is Great === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] Hobbsee, ok, i'll wait [06:10] jwendell: yeah, gtk fails on sparc [06:10] so the rest probably will too - ie, anything that depends on it [06:10] indeed === shahab_sh [n=shahab@82.99.193.159] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:19] Linden lab needs to stop making their client requirements change. Each time theres a new version I end up redoing a ot of the package get it to compile again under pbuilder [06:21] Hobbsee, could you please remove supertuxkart_0.3-0ubuntu1.dsc again? I'm going to try it again :) === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] jwendell: done [06:22] Hobbsee, thanks! [06:23] Hobbsee: have you some time to review (and upload) bug #87077? [06:23] Launchpad bug 87077 in scons "The build of xmms2 fails because of HASH(0x82db558)="" in the environment" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87077 [06:23] ewww, i'm not touching scons. === vbabiy [n=vbabiy@pool-71-164-85-238.albyny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:25] ok, who should I ask instead? === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.142.50.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:25] the last uploader of scons [06:25] oh, no one from ubuntu is sane enough to touch it [06:25] :) Uploaded By: Ubuntu Archive Auto-Sync [06:25] broonie: would be able to tell you if it's sane [06:26] guess who provided that patch (the first debdiff) [06:26] geser: in fact, broonie would probably want to upload that to debian. [06:27] Hobbsee> Why such a knee-jerk reaction to scons? [06:27] LucidFox: because i dislike scons [06:27] hmm, looks OK. guess i can sponsor [06:28] LucidFox: because i know that i'll have to merge the rotten thing in gutsy+1 [06:28] If this is the patch to fix interop with the launchpad buildds I wrote the patch :/ [06:29] yes, that's the patch [06:29] broonie: yeah, just noticed. [06:29] Ideally I'd get upstream fixed. [06:29] broonie: were you going to upload that to debian too? === Hobbsee uploads [06:29] I've tested a patched scons and two packages which fail with the unpatched one on PPA [06:29] and they both build now [06:29] if the debian maintainer wrote the patch, then i trust it. [06:30] Hobbsee: thanks [06:30] no problem === Hobbsee feels dirty now [06:31] oooh :-) === Nafallo wakes up [06:31] I wasn't going to upload immediately - ideally I'd fix upstream or convert to use a patch system before I add mroe patches. [06:31] point [06:32] OTOH it's a relatively pressing issue for you guys so Ubuntu could use a quick fix. === daniel [i=daniel@conference/oscon/x-9a8adb63d239266d] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:32] yeah, fair enough === matysek [n=matysek@39.Red-83-40-70.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:55] Hi dholbach [06:56] hey geser === davromaniak [n=cyril@LAubervilliers-153-52-16-160.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [i=daniel@conference/oscon/x-22b4be9f9c8307dc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crevette [n=crevette@man06-2-88-167-44-76.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@LAubervilliers-153-52-16-160.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:44] greetings all... anyone know if xtightvncviewer 1.3.9 is on deck for inclusion in gutsy? 1.2.9 is there currently [07:44] only if someone packages it, Debian has still 1.2.9 [07:45] oh rrrright, forgot it has to be in debian :) /me hopes someone packages it [07:45] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=424077 [07:46] Debian bug 424077 in xtightvncviewer "xtightvncviewer: new upstream stable release 1.3.9 available" [Wishlist,Open] [07:47] cool, thanks AndyP, i'm hoping the new tightvnc helps my https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vnc4/+bug/123631 problem [07:47] Launchpad bug 123631 in vnc4 "vncviewer -listen allows connections from UltraVNC SC clients, but doesn't display the window" [Undecided,New] === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmar1 [n=neonight@87.87.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davro-desktop [n=davro@LAubervilliers-153-52-16-160.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:54] there's been some noise about 6.06.2 any info on the release plans ? 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[09:58] lol [09:58] ***norsetto sits down, open a popcorn sack and enjoy the show [09:58] ScottK: what's your preference? [09:58] That we have a good UVF team. If there are enough people better, then fine. I don't care much. === zorg_the_false [n=zorglub@115.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AndyP educates himself of the current team membership and agrees === stratus_ [n=stratus@c91113c5.rjo.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:03] a few extra conscientious members couldn't hurt though === ivoks [n=ivoks@38-126.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:09] q. is there a channel for the motu multimedia team ? === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] does anyone know why seahorse fails signing packages built using debuild? === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:20] infinito: feisty or gutsy? [10:20] geser: feisty [10:21] bug #78165 [10:21] Launchpad bug 78165 in devscripts "debuild fails to use seahorse-agent or gpg-agent" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78165 [10:22] there is also a workaround which should work on feisty [10:22] infinito: That or just sign with debsign. [10:24] thanks! === yamal [n=yamal@unaffiliated/yamal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === guardian [n=Guardian@ANantes-252-1-27-136.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:30] hi [10:30] were could i find support about debian multiple binary packages please ? === Burgundavia [i=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] guardian: anything about multiple binary packages in particular or just how to package them? === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:32] well i'm starting knowing how to making multiple packages: typical use case is some program that comes with bunch of data that can be splitted [10:32] however, i found no information about versioning: if only the executable changes, will data package versions change ? [10:34] guardian: in multiple binary packages, yes, the version is taken from the changelog... some packages have separate -data packages, which can have a different version [10:35] so if i want to allow different versions for executable and data, i need to make standalone packages right ? [10:35] 1 for the executable, and 1 per data pack ? [10:35] guardian: you dont need to, but its much easier to do [10:35] guardian: yes, as i understand it [10:36] man-di: what's the other option ? [10:36] guardian: writing the whole logic to determine the version numbers for the packages yourself [10:36] guardian: which is a major pain [10:36] :) [10:36] i see [10:37] debuild -uc -us -b <- when i do that, it always clean all the previous compiled .o, aka i recompile everything instead of the .o what need to be recompiled. any way i could avoid this clean ? [10:38] zorg_the_false: to avoid clean, use -nc [10:38] man-di: thanks [10:38] also i have another question which may be dumb :/ i followed the maintainer guide which instructs how to take a source tar.gz file and debianize it by creating package-version directory then invoking dh_make etc ... is there a way to have a debian directory right into my project (beside src dir ?) ? so that version is taken from configure.ac ? [10:38] zorg_the_false: but beware this can clutter the resulting packages === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:38] man-di: how so ? [10:39] guardian: thats really not recommended for several reasons [10:39] guardian: I would file bugs about this against upstream [10:39] guardian: as it makes packaging for a distro much harder [10:39] you mean for a non debian disto ? [10:40] guardian: no, another debian based distro [10:40] guardian: you get diffs for the debian dir, thats a big pain [10:40] in fact i would like to avoid doing what's explained inside maintainer guide again and again for each version i release [10:40] it's a maemo package (nokia n800) [10:40] so it's not aimed to run elswhere [10:41] it's not meant to run elsewhere === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:41] guardian: the maintainer guide is only about initial packaging [10:42] guardian: you dont need to redo it each time, just updated the package, uupdate is your friend === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] guardian: for most software an upstream update is done in 5 minutes in the debian package [10:42] maybe i missed something then. i had foo directory. i made foo-0.1 and followed the maintainer guide. now relevant stuff is in foo-0.1/debian [10:43] zorg_the_false: becuase uncleaned files and so [10:43] where should i keep what's generated in foo-0.1 then ? [10:43] i don't want to write copyritght files again and again [10:43] guardian: you dont need to [10:43] ah you mean i keep the 0.1 package then update it ? [10:43] cd foo-0.1 ; uupdate ../foo-0.2.tar.gz ; debuild ; dput [10:43] guardian: thats mainly it === crevette [n=crevette@man06-2-88-167-44-76.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:44] ok [10:44] guardian: as long as foo-0.2.tar.gz doesnt ship a debian dir [10:44] man-di: ok [10:45] and is foo-0.1 supposed to be included in SCM ? what's generally done ? [10:46] guardian: Depends. Some people keep only debian/ but most import all of upstream. === calc [n=ccheney@conr-adsl-209-169-124-200.consolidated.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:46] The foo-buildpackage documentation will have standard workflows for each SCM. [10:47] what's a .desktop.in file? a disabled one? [10:47] RainCT: .in files are usually processed by the configure script with some configuration it worked out. [10:47] RainCT: a file that will be processed and become a .desktop file [10:48] ah ok, thanks [10:48] well in fact i don't want foo-0.1/src to be in SCM or any other source/header/makefile etc [10:48] RainCT: some placeholders will be replaced in it [10:48] guardian: you dont need to [10:50] so only foo-0.1/debian === NeilW [n=neil@84.13.215.195] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:58] someone knows why always I debuild something it says /bin/pwd: can't open directory ../../../../../..: Permission denied ? [11:00] ScottK, PM? [11:00] i sent a core dev application in 10 days ago and only got one response back so far is there anything else i need to do? [11:00] xxxxx1: If it's quick. === ogra [i=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:07] broonie: when you say foo-buildpackage, you refer to cvs-buildpackage or svn-buildpackage ? === IanC26 [n=IanC26@124.148.100.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:10] does simple-patchsys automatically apply al patches from debian/patches/? [11:11] RainCT: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PatchingSources [11:12] thanks [11:18] well but that command basically only adds a .patch to debian/patches, or? === ogra [i=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:25] does MOTU created packages get overwritten when syncing from debian? [11:25] Yes [11:25] If a Ubuntu change needs to be preserved, then you do a merge instead. [11:41] thank you very much for your detailed answers guy. was much appreciated [11:41] bye :) === guardian [n=Guardian@ANantes-252-1-27-136.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === asisak [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:58] good night all === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving."] === mohammad [n=mohammad@auth2-37.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-14-82.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vbabiy [n=vbabiy@pool-71-164-85-238.albyny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:02] could anyone please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6052 for me? === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-143-235-27.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sommer [n=sommer@192.154.64.85] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nightrose [n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grimeboy [n=grimboy@85-211-243-213.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia_ [i=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] mohammad: Does it still doe the mozilla init stuff? [12:12] ScottK: the copyright issues are completely resolved but not the mozilla init stuff [12:13] ScottK: do you have any suggestion for me?