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salty-horseping12:37
salty-horseahem.. anyway, can someone please update the status of this bug? it's been fixed upstream. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/11368312:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 113683 in firefox "hovering over splitter widget sets incorrect cursor" [Undecided,Incomplete] 12:43
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shirishhi all, does anybody know when we can have ff3.0m6 or ff3.0a6 or we going to wait to m7 or m8?08:17
shirishbroken down release plan http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3/Schedule08:18
shirishalso can somebody take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-granparadiso/+bug/12766808:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 127668 in firefox-granparadiso "does not clean up incomplete downloads" [Undecided,New] 08:21
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asacAdmiral_Chicago: thanks11:38
asachjmf: what is the state of the auto-crash retracing et al?12:04
asachjmf: has there ever been a sane backtrace for us?12:04
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gnomefreakthis is making me sick03:05
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asacgnomefreak: oh03:28
asacgnomefreak: how are you?03:28
asacwhat is making you sick?03:29
asactrunk is still crashing03:29
asaci started to look a bit into it now again03:29
gnomefreaknet connection03:30
asacoh03:30
asacU.S. :)03:30
gnomefreakdlink just told me thier wna-2330 isnt compatiable with linux, it was working monday at home now same card different router isnt working03:30
gnomefreakit looks like i stableized my desktop connection atleast for time being03:31
asachmm03:31
asacwireless is just a mess03:31
asacwherever you look03:31
gnomefreakagreed03:31
asaci see severe slow down over time03:31
asaci blame sucky router ;)03:32
asacafter resetting i get more throughput again03:32
gnomefreakhow does ubuntu support it and dlink doesnt :(03:32
asacat least most times03:32
asacgnomefreak: its the same for any hardware03:32
asacif you ask if they support linux its constantly NO03:32
gnomefreakyeah im seeing that03:32
gnomefreakhow did tribe3 go?03:34
asacthere was an undiscovered bug in latest firefox that prevented fresh profiles to be installed03:34
asacit was fixed in time though03:34
gnomefreaki saw that i think when i was in and out due to connection03:34
asacyes ... but given the severity ... there was really little noise03:35
gnomefreakthere were alot of profile bugs03:35
asacapparently most already have a profile :)03:35
asacright before the release yes03:35
gnomefreakcool03:35
asace.g. when CDs were tested03:35
asacbut not before03:35
gnomefreakhmmmm03:36
asacwhich scares me a bit03:36
asac:)03:36
gnomefreaki agree but other than waiting for us to test there isnt much we can do with that on a 2-4 day release firefox > tribe#03:38
asacyes ... maybe its a good sign that we see this during CD testing03:41
asac... so QA worked after all :)03:42
gnomefreakthe sooner the better so we dont have to hold back release03:42
asacyes ... but holding back tribe for a day is not that a big problem i guess03:43
gnomefreakno its normal03:43
asacof course ... better have no bugs :)03:43
gnomefreakno software is free of bugs :) or programmers would have no work :)03:44
asachehe03:44
asacyeah03:44
gnomefreakdo i want "enable roaming mode" for wireless in n-m?03:47
gnomefreakoh wait might have it03:48
gnomefreakha03:48
gnomefreakfuck dlink03:48
gnomefreakwell will know in a few03:49
gnomefreakbrb smoke03:49
asacat least some people appreciate that we still have 1.5 in dapper03:53
gnomefreakn-m seems to not care if wired or wireless with wireless it still shows up as wired in n-m03:57
gnomefreak2.0 introduced a good amount of bugs afaik03:57
asacgnomefreak: can you reproduce these "all extensions broken" bugs?04:01
asacmaybe you can try?04:01
asacgreasemonkey didn't break at least04:01
gnomefreakall extenstions? mine still work04:01
gnomefreakafaik04:02
asacyeah there are already 3 dupes04:02
asacwhich scares me04:02
asacbug 12723504:02
ubotuLaunchpad bug 127235 in firefox "MASTER Add-ons are broken after 2.0.0.5 upgrade" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12723504:02
asachmm just one dupe04:03
gnomefreakand they fail to work in safe-mode or --profile(whatever it is to run it in new profile)04:03
gnomefreak?04:03
asachmm04:04
asacthey just fail afaik04:04
asac-safe-mode would disable them04:04
asacso no point to ask if they fail in safe-mode :)04:04
gnomefreakim thinking its a profile bug since there already is bug with profile not being made/made in wrong place and that is why they fail04:06
asacgnomefreak: what do you mean?04:06
asaci only know abut the profile bug we had before tribe-304:06
asacand that was gutsy only04:06
asacwhich profile bug do you refer to?04:07
gnomefreakasac: where the profile is not created or created in wrong place or named wrong i remember seeing them in passing04:07
asacif you find such a bug, let me know :)04:08
asaci will search my inbox too04:08
asacbut i can't remember such a bug atm04:08
gnomefreaki have ~600 or more emails to go through today im sure it will pop up in there, i may wait till after lunch to do email since its a weeks worth04:09
asacgnomefreak: hmm ... if i build minefield in mozilla source, i don't see the crashes04:11
asacnor do i see broken bookmarks04:11
asacwhats going on here :)04:12
gnomefreakminefeild?04:15
gnomefreakyou mean granparadiso?04:15
asacboth04:17
asacinteresting04:17
asaci somehow fail to see whats going on04:18
asacbut there are files missing04:18
gnomefreakasac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/127235/comments/8 tells me its a profile problem04:18
asacin -trunk04:18
ubotuLaunchpad bug 127235 in firefox "MASTER Add-ons are broken after 2.0.0.5 upgrade" [High,Confirmed] 04:18
asacgnomefreak: of course its related to profile04:18
asacquestion is ... why does profile break on upgrade04:18
gnomefreakiirc and i will look but it was failing to create it but ill let you know in a few if i see the bugs im thinking of04:19
gnomefreakmaybe profile bug im thinking of was in 2.0.0.404:21
gnomefreakasac: anyway to get bug 109732 fixed in next point release example: firefox 2.0.0.5+2-0ubuntu3? seems fairly trival04:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 109732 in firefox "Help menu entry "Report a bug" inconsistent with Gnome" [Wishlist,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10973204:32
asacyes its triaged04:33
asacpatches welcome :)04:33
asacactually those menus should go to ubufox04:33
asacso we can reduce patchset further04:33
gnomefreakpatch in ubufox sounds better to me but doesnt firefox control the menus?04:36
asacno ... we can overlay them04:36
asacwe currently carry a patch against firefox ... we just need a xul overlay in ubufox instead04:37
asacgnomefreak: so how should it be called in gnome?04:39
gnomefreakcool04:39
gnomefreakreport a problem is what gnome calls it but let me check to make sure04:40
asacyes its that way04:40
gnomefreakyep Report a Problem04:40
asacdamn we need to update all extension packages now04:41
asac:)04:41
asacaeh04:41
asacat least we need to collect icons for any of them04:41
asacas we need a app-install data package for extensions04:41
gnomefreakwhy not use gnome-app-install?04:42
gnomefreakor can we not do that nicely04:43
gnomefreakasac: i like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/88232/comments/7  just would change the short discryption to something else because it makes it sound like its the only mozilla browser04:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 88232 in firefox "Package description is very out of date" [Low,In progress] 04:46
asacyeah ... if some decent description comes up, I am willing to integrate that04:48
asacbut i am not native speaker ... so better not by me :)04:48
asacgnomefreak: ^^04:48
gnomefreaki will work up a debdiff sometime today04:49
asacgnomefreak: please don't05:01
asaci am already doing it :)05:01
gnomefreakoh ok05:01
asachave to remove from firefox as well05:01
bluekujaheya asac05:45
bluekujaasac: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=42409105:47
ubotuDebian bug 424091 in agg "agg: FTBFS if built twice in a row" [Important,Open] 05:47
bluekujado you think we can use those suggested patches?05:48
gnomefreakasac: what did mike say about iceape-calendar as i see it was accepted in debianhttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-mozilla-maintainers/2007-July/002852.html05:48
gnomefreakok im out for a while i have things to do around here.05:52
bluekujacya gnomefreak05:52
gnomefreakcya05:52
bluekujaasac: anyway I've noticed an increased bug traffic now^^05:55
asacbluekuja: please find a fix for that agg build problem05:58
asacjust try if patches work ... if not do something else :)05:58
bluekujaasac: that guy said "it works"05:58
bluekujagonna try it too05:59
bluekujaand then I add those patch05:59
bluekujaasac: I'm attaching gmsh debdiff05:59
bluekujafor you now05:59
asacgnomefreak: mike wants to resurrect it at some point05:59
asacbluekuja: don't talk about the future ... only past :)05:59
bluekujaasac: lol06:00
bluekuja:)06:00
bluekujaasac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/17455806:00
asacyour remaining changes don't document everything06:04
asacthat is in the diff06:04
bluekujawhy?06:04
bluekuja#06:04
bluekuja+    - Added a .desktop file (still validates with latest desktop-file-validate)06:04
bluekuja#06:04
bluekuja+      with respective icon.06:04
bluekujais there06:04
bluekujaand the removed patch06:04
bluekujais not a remaining06:05
bluekujabut a new change instead06:05
bluekujaI used *06:05
bluekujainstead of -06:05
bluekujato push it as a NEW change06:05
asaclook through the diff and try to see whatelse is not documented06:05
bluekujanot remaining06:05
asacwhenever you see a diff that is not the changelog itself06:06
asacit should be documented in the remaining changes06:06
asac(except its a new change of course)06:06
asacnot of course06:06
asacnew changes are of course remaining as well06:07
bluekujamm06:07
asacjust important that they are in the changelog entry as well06:07
asacif you explicitly say remaining or NEW doesn't really matter for me06:07
bluekujaa MOTU, 1 month ago rejected a debdiff06:07
bluekujafor this reason06:07
bluekujaI put *06:08
bluekuja* -06:08
bluekujaand he said06:08
bluekuja"hey, you have to use *"06:08
bluekujawhen is newe06:08
bluekujae.g a change06:08
asacthats none of my business06:08
bluekujayeah, I know :)06:08
asacsyntax doesn't matter for me06:08
asacits just content06:08
asacthats missing06:08
asacunexplained changes06:09
bluekujaasac: I can't see an unexplained change there06:09
asacjust look at the diff thorougly and you will see06:09
bluekujammm06:09
asaccheck for every change if its in your latest changelog entry06:09
asacand you will find that its not06:09
bluekujayou mean the space in gmsh-2.0.8/debian/patches/00list?06:10
bluekujait's a minor06:10
asacjust do everything right06:10
asacthere are more06:10
asacthis one needs to go obviously though06:10
asacits a not-needed bloat of diff.gz06:11
bluekujayea06:11
bluekujagonna just delete it from debdiff06:11
bluekujabut that's not the matter now06:11
bluekujaneed to see what's wrong06:12
bluekujaasac: other point is the patch I removed?06:13
bluekujabecause I don't see anything wrong in the .desktop/icon remaining change06:13
bluekujaso only thing is the removed patch06:14
asacit doesn't document gmsh-2.0.8/debian/menu06:14
asacand don't say it does ... then be more explicit06:14
asacit just refers to .desktop file06:14
asacfurther debian/rules diff is not discussed06:15
asacand 00list should not be in debdiff at all06:15
bluekujadebian/menu is explained in Added a .desktop file06:17
bluekujawhere the icon refers too06:17
bluekujabut if you say that it's not explicit06:18
asacread what i said06:18
bluekujaI gonna fix06:18
bluekujayeah06:18
asacits something different06:18
bluekuja:)06:18
asaca .desktop file is a .desktop file06:18
asaca menu file is a menu file06:18
bluekujayeah06:18
bluekujaI did not explain the problem06:18
bluekujain the correct way06:18
asacyup06:18
bluekuja:)06:19
asacok ... if those three things are adapted, then I don't see anything else from that debdiff06:19
bluekujaI need to write more verbose things in changelog entry06:19
asacjust be a bot and document each change you see from top-to-bottom06:19
bluekujanice comparison06:20
bluekuja:)06:20
bluekujaunderstood the point06:20
bluekujaand fixing06:20
asacpattern: what do you see + what does it do + why was it done06:20
asac... initially06:20
asacif that is available for each change then its perfect imo06:20
bluekujayea06:21
bluekujabut unfortunately06:21
bluekujanot every developer document stuff in the correct way06:21
bluekujaso we have to restore everything06:21
bluekujathat was missed/forgotten from previous mergers06:21
bluekujaI've seen this in a lot of packages06:21
asacyes ... which is why its safe to document what you see in debdiff everytime06:24
asacyou never know if previous uploader did forget to document things06:24
bluekujayup06:25
bluekujaabsolutely right06:25
bluekujaasac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/17462406:28
asacwhy don't you just name the files you touch in the beginning?06:31
asaci mean its not a .menu file06:31
asacits a menu file06:31
bluekujayou mean something06:31
bluekujalike06:31
bluekujadebian/rules:06:31
bluekuja-change06:31
bluekujathis way?06:31
asacfor instance06:32
asacand don't abbreviations in file names you mention06:33
asace.g. .desktop becomes: PACKAGE.desktop06:33
asacet al06:33
bluekujaok06:34
bluekujaasac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/17468606:39
bluekujai think it should be ok06:39
bluekujait's now well documented06:39
bluekujawith every file I touched06:39
asacits still .menu ... which is wrong06:40
asacanyway ... otherwise ok imo06:40
bluekujayeah noticed06:40
bluekujahttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/17468906:41
bluekujaI copied it06:41
asaci trust that you fixed it06:41
bluekujathat's why was still there06:41
bluekuja:)06:41
bluekujait builds06:41
bluekujadpkg-deb: building package `gmsh' in `../gmsh_2.0.8-1ubuntu1_i386.deb'.06:41
bluekujafrom now on, I gonna write verbose changelog's entries06:42
bluekujafrom your words, I've understood it's really important06:43
bluekujato restore informations previously losty06:43
bluekujafor instance06:43
asacsure06:45
bluekujaasac: thanks for nice hint btw06:45
bluekuja;)06:45
asacremaining changes should obviously document remaining changes ... and not remaining-documented-chnages :)06:45
bluekuja:D06:45
bluekujaasac: when you'll have time to push it let me know06:49
asache?06:49
asacthought you want to go sponsor way then06:50
bluekujaoh06:50
bluekujamm06:50
bluekujadunno06:50
asacbugs are needed to document anything06:50
asaci can sponsor then06:50
bluekujaopening a bug right now06:50
bluekuja;)06:50
bluekujaasac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmsh/+bug/12776606:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 127766 in gmsh "Merge gmsh (2.0.8-1) from debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] 06:54
asaccan you please post links to upstream pieces?06:54
asacotherwise its like digging for gold :)06:55
bluekujaasac: for?06:55
bluekujaFTBFS for gcc?06:55
asachow the hell do you get to that conclusion06:56
asacnm06:56
asaci pull it manually now06:56
bluekuja0_006:56
bluekujaI didnt understand ^^06:56
asacsource pieces06:57
asaclik orig, diff, dsc06:57
bluekujaoh06:58
asacnote: i have no merge infrastructure06:58
asacso i do manually06:58
bluekujaoh sorry06:58
asacbut already grabbed manually06:58
bluekujadidnt know that06:58
bluekujaoh cool06:58
bluekuja:06:58
bluekuja:)06:58
asaci hate tex packages06:59
asaci don't want that on my system06:59
bluekuja:D07:00
asacso please agg now07:04
bluekujayeah07:04
bluekujanext TODO is agg now07:04
bluekujaI need to push those patches07:04
bluekujaand try to see if it works07:04
asacplease try to understand patches before you apply them07:05
bluekujayea07:05
asace.g. read patches ... if they look reasonable apply .. otherwise develop on your own07:05
bluekujaneed to re-check the whole bug07:05
asacdon't apply and test07:05
asack07:05
bluekujaI read it and said "damn"07:05
bluekujathat's all07:05
bluekujaI had to leave07:06
bluekuja^^07:06
asack07:06
asacgmsh upload finished07:06
bluekujathanks alex07:06
bluekuja;)07:06
asacplease be responsive in case issues pop-up07:06
asac;)07:06
bluekujaasac: agg issues?07:06
asacany :)07:07
bluekujaor general talking issues?07:07
bluekujaoh07:07
bluekuja:)07:07
asacfrom this upload i mean07:07
asac:)07:07
bluekuja:)07:07
asacfor agg as well07:07
bluekujayea07:08
bluekujaalex, remember to mark it fix committed07:08
bluekujaet all07:08
bluekujaas alwais07:08
bluekuja;)07:08
asacme?07:08
bluekujagonna move it to fix released when built07:08
asaci don't want to do that :)07:08
bluekujalol07:08
bluekujaat least say "uploaded"07:08
asacplease include LP: #BUGID in changelog next time :)07:08
bluekuja:D07:09
bluekujaI thought it was for "bug fixes" only07:09
asacyes i set fix committed07:09
asaci thought you mean fix released ;)07:09
asacthats your job when build succeeded iirc07:09
bluekujayeah07:09
bluekujaadding LP: #07:09
asacdone07:09
bluekujais for bug frixes07:09
bluekuja*fixes07:09
asacok07:09
bluekujaonly07:09
bluekujaI think07:09
asaci have no idea ;)07:09
asaci think it should be done for sponsoring as well07:10
bluekujayeah07:10
bluekujabut maybe it can mess up things07:10
asacits a new feature so probably nobody revised current policy07:10
asacbut anyway07:10
asacmight be07:10
bluekujasomething like "hey, was it a bug fix or a merge?"07:10
bluekujaand stuff like that07:10
bluekujaI really need to fix agg07:11
bluekujabefore holidays07:11
bluekujaI don't want to have a delay on that07:12
asacbluekuja: try to reproduce the bug first ... then figure out a fix07:45
asacout for a few hours07:45
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asachjmf: did benjamin review your patch?08:58
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