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twiggzbetter ways to spend 300 bucks than give a kid a phone thats built so cheaply that itll break the first time its dropped.12:26
twiggzthey have really sturdy nextel phones12:26
twiggzive seen and messed around with those12:27
twiggzthose are decent, but still overpriced.12:27
twiggzall of the other ones...shit they feel like your gonna break them just by opening them up12:27
wbadgerwhat do you think is more important ?12:27
twiggzi think its more important for parents to keep an eye on their children themselves rather than think OH ITS OK, LET EM RUNN AROUND ALL NIGHT EVEN THOUGH HES 10! HES GOT A CELLPHONE!12:28
twiggzcellphone to the rescue!12:28
twiggzthats a bunch of bs.12:28
totalwormage:D12:28
BFTD!offtopic12:28
ubotu#xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:28
BFTDmove to offtopic please12:28
totalwormageargh12:28
totalwormagesilly buggers12:29
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twiggzok lets just sit here in silence to not piss the rule harping fascists off.12:30
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wbadger:P you could join #xubuntu-offtopic :P12:30
twiggzyea, and i could join a thousand others too...12:31
twiggzill just part this one.12:31
twiggzthanks for the advice.12:31
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System79Bah can someone send a mail to rick@phrozen-systems.ath.cx i want to see if my mail server works :$01:17
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kalikianaSystem79, Mail yourself, register somewhere with that address. No big deal.01:34
System79kalikiana: Already  did that >.>01:34
kalikianaSystem79, So don't keep us busy people from important work. :P01:35
System79Like im not busy ;)01:35
System79Ive been here all day yesterday helping people so dont complain =P01:35
System79be right back01:36
kalikianaSystem79, I'll keep complaining because you weren't here offering support all the other days. :|01:36
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Jester45true01:40
System79u sent me a mail jester?01:40
Jester45kalikiana, can i bother you?01:40
Jester45nope01:40
System79mmk01:40
Jester45still cant send01:40
System79i thought someone did :p01:40
kalikianaJester45, Sure01:40
Jester45yea :) im in the club01:40
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System79;D01:42
Jester45still workin on the email01:43
kalikianaJester45, Do you also have a mail server issue or what?01:44
Jester45no01:44
Jester45a "i havent used email in a year and have to fix a smtp problem"01:44
System79I could hook you up with an adress at my server but i dont think u want that ;)01:46
Jester45i sent it01:46
System79asdf? :p01:46
Jester45i have 2 one good one and one free one01:46
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Jester45yea01:46
System79mmk01:46
Jester45and my good one doesnt send01:46
System79i love my 100gb mailbox now01:47
System79:)01:47
Jester45i get a 55001:47
Jester45but for no reason01:47
Jester45* error occurred on SMTP session01:48
Jester45*** Error occurred while sending the message:01:48
Jester45550 This user account is not authorized to send messages with the address .01:48
System79Whoopie01:48
Jester45System79, what servers are you using01:48
kalikianaI'd think of a) illegal from address, b) reuqired smtpauth01:48
System79U didnt enter a password or your account is deleted01:48
Jester45well01:49
Jester45i can get mail01:49
System79Jester45: Im using postfix amavisd and courier imap/pop301:49
System79:p01:49
Jester45just not send01:49
System79then their mail server isnt configured right01:49
System79>:)01:49
Jester45well its nerdshack.com but they changed to lavabit.com01:49
Jester45but they said the old names will be supported still01:50
kalikianaJester45, Depending on your mail client, you might need to enable smtpauth01:50
Jester45the test working account is a lavabit one01:50
Jester45i will try that01:50
System79How do i add new users again01:50
System79>.>01:50
Jester45adduser01:50
System79syntax?01:51
kalikianaman adduser :P01:51
Jester45adduser user group01:51
System79no password? :$01:51
kalikianaThere is passwd.01:51
Jester45fine dont listen to me01:51
Jester45kalikiana, for send i have user ssl for SMTP01:52
Jester45there is user STARTTLS command to start SSL session and dont use ssl but if necessary use starttls01:52
Jester45and i have use non-blocking ssl checked01:53
kalikianaJester45, ssl might be the problem, e.g. my  smtp makes problems with ssl01:53
Jester45everyone has smtp01:53
kalikianaSure, that's why I said "ssl" can make problems.01:54
Jester45im using sylpheed-clawsgtk201:54
Jester45ummm01:56
System79errr01:56
System79;x01:56
Jester45i think i broke sylpheed01:56
System79Jester45 read pm :P01:56
Jester45i did01:57
System79Want it?01:57
System79>..>01:57
Jester45no not really01:57
System79K01:57
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curiogeoI have a desktop running xubuntu and I want to move the working copy of hda to the new server box03:32
curiogeowill this work03:32
Jester45possibly03:33
Jester45but i think it would be best to just install on the box03:33
curiogeowhat do I have to concern myself with03:33
curiogeothen I would have to reinstall SAMBA and the whole small office enviro03:34
curiogeoI want to transplant my DC to a new box like I would in windows03:34
curiogeothrow it in and look for new drivers03:34
Jester45are you going to be making its a command line only server?03:34
curiogeoif necessary03:34
curiogeoit is now03:34
Jester45no new drivers are needed03:34
curiogeowhat about networkk cards03:35
curiogeowill they auto detect03:35
Jester45should03:35
Jester45you might have a problem with the gui config03:36
curiogeoso if I want to run the xub desktop you think there may be a problem03:36
Jester45might be but it would take a minute to fix03:37
curiogeook so it is pretty low maintenance03:37
Jester45what might be better is to make a fresh install and copy the configs for samba03:37
curiogeobut then the sid is going to be all messed up isn't it03:38
curiogeodose the SAMBA security ID config move to the new server easily03:40
Jester45umm03:41
Jester45not sure03:41
Jester45but it should be easier than coping the harddrive03:41
Jester45i try not to use window stuff as it is not very good03:42
curiogeoyou mean windows OS in general or SAMBA03:43
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Jester45samba uses windows file share protocol so it has windows in it03:43
curiogeogranted03:45
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curiogeoIt is the only way I can pracice domain control in my primarily windows environment03:46
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curiogeoHave you tried any other way?03:46
guest68765468732What does it mean if Xubuntu locks up at "Mounting file systems"03:46
guest68765468732?03:46
cellofellowsounds bad03:46
guest68765468732Really?03:47
PumpernickelIs that during install, or on an installed system?03:47
cellofellowI'd turn off quiet and splash at the bootloader and get the goods.03:47
guest68765468732During install03:47
cellofellowoh, ok03:47
Pumpernickelbug 10725903:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10725903:47
cellofellowI was assuming on an installed system.03:47
Jester45well me i just use linux so nope.03:47
guest68765468732Installing 6.06.103:47
guest68765468732?03:47
cellofellowcuriogeo: Samba can be a Windows Domain Controller.03:48
curiogeoI use it for that now I was just wondering if there were alternatives03:48
curiogeousing a linux backend and a bunch of windows clients?03:49
cellofellowThat's been used a lot.03:49
guest68765468732Booting off the live CD.. It locks up at "Mounting root file systems"03:49
curiogeoIs there some kind of domain control03:49
cellofellowSamba can completely replace Windows NT networking stuff.03:50
Jester45bug 10725903:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10725903:50
Jester45guest68765468732, thats your bug03:50
guest68765468732The desktop cd wont boot though.03:51
cellofellowI think guest68765468732 is saying it freezes at boot. Good thing he's using Dapper and it tells him stuff.03:51
cellofellowguest68765468732: try alt.03:51
curiogeoI can stick with samba - does anyone know of a tut that shows you how to migrate Samba to a new box03:51
cellofellowor wubi, heard good stuff about that.03:51
guest68765468732K.03:51
cellofellowcuriogeo: just copy files, and try to mimic samba confs I guess.03:52
Jester45after a wubi install filesystem preformace dropes03:52
cellofellownot sure what you are up to03:52
cellofellowtrue03:52
cellofellowbut wubi is good for newbs.03:52
Jester45so is alt cd03:53
cellofellowso is livcd.03:53
Jester45:) at least i think its simple, live cd isnt easy when you have a bug03:53
cellofellowguest68765468732: try alt cd. It's really really stable, being based off of the Debian installer.03:54
guest68765468732I meant alt. >.<03:54
cellofellowthe alt cd is freezing on boot?03:54
guest68765468732Im afarid so.03:55
cellofellow>.<03:56
guest68765468732I'm on a eMachines T2042.03:56
cellofellownever had that happen.03:56
guest68765468732128 meg ram.03:56
cellofellowdo other Linux systems boot? Knoppix? DSL?03:59
guest68765468732Puppy Linux booted.03:59
guest68765468732So, Xubuntu not the way to go?04:02
guest68765468732or perhaps a cd defect?04:03
cellofellowit may be04:03
guest68765468732Ill trying burning another.04:03
cellofellowdoes the CD check thing work>04:03
cellofellow?04:03
guest68765468732it locks up at the same place.04:03
cellofellowtry another CD, or try the same CD on another box.04:03
guest68765468732k.04:04
guest68765468732ill burn another.04:04
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[PM] Hatehello04:12
[PM] Hateanyone willing to help me?04:12
zialso.o if I'm able to04:12
[PM] Hateim not sure whats causing it04:12
[PM] Hatei have a cd-rw of xubuntu alternative (because the pc has 64mb of ram)04:12
[PM] Hategets to the installation (low memory mode, should be anyhow) and gets to like the very last steps04:13
[PM] Hateof installing packages and configuring them04:13
[PM] Hateand it says it cant find 2 of them04:13
[PM] Hatelike aptitude04:13
[PM] Hateand another04:13
[PM] Hatesomething along the lines of "cant find"04:14
zialsmhmm, did you check the cd for any defects?04:15
[PM] Hatei suppose I should04:15
[PM] Hatehow long are u going to be on?04:15
zialsnot too long, but I'm pretty sure someone else would be here04:16
[PM] Hatelol :(04:16
[PM] Hatewell, ill give it my best and maybe burn it on a cd-r w/ another downloaded package04:17
[PM] Hateso later04:17
[PM] Hatethanks04:17
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guest68765468732its working.04:20
guest68765468732=D04:20
zialso.o04:21
guest68765468732n.n04:22
kalikiana_^(.-.)^ ~('-')~04:35
curiogeoso I made the change to my new server box and the server is running I have changed one ethernet card working but the other is seeminingly not listening04:40
curiogeohow can I remove and reinstall an eth card04:40
cellofellowlspci to get you started04:40
curiogeois this a mount and unmount kind of thing04:41
cellofellownope04:41
kalikiana_curiogeo, lspci is "list pci"04:41
cellofellownormally the kernel just takes care of it at boot time.04:41
curiogeook so if it is in lspci then what do I do remove it and restart the box then reinstall it again04:43
curiogeothat is the windows way04:43
cellofellowlspci will give you info on the card, and then you can find out more online or something.04:44
curiogeook I will take a look around04:44
curiogeointeresting thing is that the 2 controllers are identical04:45
curiogeoone seems to be working fine the other is not04:45
curiogeopicking up dhcp address04:45
cellofellowdo they have ethN scripts?04:46
cellofellowI forget where they live in newer kernels, used to be /dev04:46
curiogeoIf there was a previous one does it need to be erased and allowed to recreate itself04:47
cellofellowmaybe04:47
cellofellow!eth04:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:47
cellofellow!eth004:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eth0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:47
cellofellow!ethernet04:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:48
curiogeoubot is stumped04:49
cellofellowno, ubotu-er is stumped.04:51
curiogeoshould lspci tell me the ethx that is associated to the device04:51
cellofellowdunno04:52
cellofellowmine doesn't04:52
cellofellowcuriogeo: install bwm-ng and run it. It knows what all the ethernet cards are doing.04:53
cellofellowsimple terminal network monitor04:54
cellofellowpowerful though04:54
curiogeoany other name for that package04:55
curiogeoapt did not find it04:55
cellofellowyou have universe enabled?04:55
curiogeospelling goof04:55
cellofellowfyi: tab completion works with apt.04:57
cellofellowJust type sudo aptitude install somepackage<tab> and it will complete it.04:58
cellofellowdouble-tab for a list.04:58
curiogeogood tip04:58
Jester45fyi: trying tab on all your common programs can help alot and take only a split second to test if it works04:59
curiogeooh well not sure why but my OS just will not see the second interface05:01
Jester45well05:01
Jester45bye bye everyone i know you will miss me but i will be back in a few hours05:01
cellofellowcya jester05:01
cellofellowcuriogeo: both cards do show in lspci?05:02
curiogeoyes they do05:04
cellofellowhmm05:05
curiogeoyour telling me05:05
cellofellowI never figured out how the ethernet stuff works.05:06
curiogeoI am really baffled05:06
cellofellowtry adding "auto eth1\niface eth1 inet dhcp"05:07
cellofellowthat \n is a newline05:07
cellofellowto /etc/network/interfaces05:07
cellofellowthen sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart05:07
cellofellowhttp://www.linuxforums.org/network/ask_dr._unx_2.html05:08
curiogeoI did that process of adding a new int to interfaces05:15
curiogeono changes05:15
guest68765468732New problem for me.05:15
curiogeoI am going to try adding a third interface05:16
guest68765468732When the alt cd goes to the Desktop, all it loads is a white screen with a mouse.05:16
guest68765468732and after a while, it locks up.05:16
guest68765468732Help??05:20
curiogeocellofellow: got it by adding the iface as eth2 into the interfaces file05:21
curiogeopretty peculiar it wouldn't addit on its own though05:21
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cellofellowguest68765468732: alt cd has no desktop05:34
cellofellowalt cd is command-line installation05:35
guest68765468732Hu?05:35
cellofellowThe Alternative CD installs a desktop OS using a command line installer. No desktop from the CD, only from hard drive.05:36
guest68765468732Ah.05:36
cellofellowso, if you are getting a desktop from the CD, you have the Live or Desktop (same thing) CD.05:37
guest68765468732Argh.05:37
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Redimerehey all06:39
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RedimereCan somebody help me with ATI drivers?07:02
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RedimereIs anybody alive? I've got a serious issue07:26
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jeff_anyone know how to take a screenshot with xfce?08:06
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zythSo ah... Ubuntu supports my WPA network by default...but in xubuntu, not?09:36
zythdid I just miss something?09:36
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jeff_how do i take a ss in xubuntu?10:00
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echosystmguys10:27
echosystmive got xfce4 installed10:27
echosystmhow do i enable automounting?10:27
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magic_ninjawhats up guys11:29
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k^^I trying to reinstall xubuntu 7.04 on my laptop but I get a "Failed to create a file system" error01:54
k^^what to do?01:54
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m0u5eanyone know a good program for audio editting and recording01:55
k^^I installed the beta with no problems01:55
wbadgerm0u5e, how about audacity01:58
wbadgerk^^, try unmounting the partition just after you start the operation01:58
wbadgerk^^, I know that helped me install 7.04.. I think it's a bug in the install disk01:59
Pumpernickelbug 10725902:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10725902:00
k^^great02:01
k^^I'll have another go02:01
wbadgergood luck02:02
k^^thanks :)02:02
k^^yay I worked02:05
wbadger:)02:05
k^^*it worked02:05
k^^thanks guys02:05
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Po1Hello hello02:23
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po1nickname is wrong. :)02:23
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mrpokBetter.02:24
mrpokWell, I got xubuntu going!02:24
mrpok(Im new to linux)02:25
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wbadgernice job02:26
mrpokMind if I ask a few questions?02:26
wbadgerthis is the support channel :P02:26
mrpokAwesome. :)02:27
mrpokI not sure if m,y keyboard is set up right. Occasionally Il try to type m, and it will give a system speaker beep, or put a comma before or after the ,m02:28
mrpokThusly. :)02:28
mrpokSo where do I go to select ,my keyboard type? I couldnt see it in languages,.02:28
wbadgerI never heard of something like that before..02:28
mrpokIt may just be the keyboard, then.02:29
wbadgerI believe you can enter XFCE Menu -> Settings -> Keyboard Settings02:29
wbadgerThen enter the last tab02:29
mrpokOK, where is the XFCE menu?02:29
wbadgerYou can choose your keyboard type there, although I'm not sure it will help02:29
mrpokOh, applications... m,y bad. :)02:30
mrpokI should have been able to figure that one out... *facepalm,*02:30
wbadgerI deleted the caption so I just call it the XFCE menu :)02:30
mrpokWill I be able to plug and play my iMac USB keyboard?02:32
wbadgerI never tried, but there's one way to find out :)02:32
mrpokOKieday02:33
mrpokmmmmmmmm02:33
mrpokwoot, no worries. Time to clean the old keyboard, I guess. :)02:33
wbadger:] 02:33
mrpokThanks mate02:34
mrpokNow, next question is a bit more involved02:34
mrpokI chose xubuntu over ubuntu because Im running a PIII with 256MB RAM.02:34
wbadgerI chose it because it looks better and doesn't take as much memory as kubuntu ^^02:35
mrpokFrom what I have gathered, since Im not using GNOME or KDE, the applications designed for ubuntu or kubuntu wont work, correct?02:36
pleia2mrpok: they should work fine02:37
wbadgerno that's not correct... ubuntu and kubuntu and xubuntu share application repositories, and every application in the repositories should work with every one of those02:37
pleia2mrpok: the exception might be some of the applets that sit in the KDE/Gnome docks02:37
mrpokAlright, thanks.02:37
mrpokWell, I stuffed up trying to install GnomeBaker, then.02:38
wbadgerhow did you try it?02:39
mrpokXFCE -> System -> Synaptic Package Manager02:40
mrpokSearched for it, marked the box to install, then hit apply.02:40
wbadgerok then what seems to be the problem02:41
wbadger?02:41
mrpokWhen I opened it, it gave me a string of error messages about things that werent installed.02:41
mrpokI cant remember exactly what they were called, want me to d/l again and let you know?02:42
wbadgerdo you mean that you installed it and afterwards, trying to run it you got error messages?02:42
mrpokYes02:42
wbadgeror when you tried to install you got those messages?02:42
wbadgerdid you remove the package?02:43
mrpokYeah02:43
mrpokwith Synaptics again02:43
wbadgerok... lets try it again. usually if a package needs other packages to be installed (called dependencies), it finds them automatically and asks you to install them02:43
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mrpokThe synaptic summary says 47 packages will be held back and not upgraded, 1 package will be installed02:45
mrpokIs that normal?02:45
mrpok*1 new package02:45
wbadgerI don't know why would it hold back these packages, sorry02:46
wbadgerI really have to go now, hopefully someone else here will be able to help02:46
mrpokOK, no worries, thanks for your help so far.02:46
wbadger:) goodbye02:46
mrpokI appreciate you putting up with my ignorance. :)02:46
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mrpokHrm, well GnomeBaker started up this time02:50
mrpok*shrug*02:50
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echosystmxfce seems to not pickup my internet keyboard shortcuts02:54
echosystmis this normal?02:55
echosystmi think i'm going to die02:55
mrpokIm having keyboard problems too02:55
mrpokthe  only works on every second press. Bizzare.02:55
echosystmthat is rather bizzare.02:56
mrpokI have a single button mouse too, and I dont know how to right click. :)02:59
echosystmlol02:59
mrpokWeb says F11 or F12 should work, but it doesnt seem to.02:59
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Huh1hey there.03:11
Huh1Are there any things I have to keep in mind when installing xubuntu to a laptop?03:11
Huh1like things that will be different from installing normal ubuntu to a normal box03:11
echosystmno03:16
echosystmeverything should be setup normally03:16
echosystmthe only difference is the power management03:16
Huh1ok03:17
Huh1but the power management is difficult to handle?03:17
echosystmno, it should be automatically installed03:22
echosystm:)03:23
zythSo ah... Ubuntu supports my WPA network by default...but in xubuntu, not?  The Network applet thing only had WEP as an option03:23
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PMedauHello06:30
PMedauHow I can disable fsck on boot?06:31
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tuomoprHello, ... Howto update my xubuntu's xfce4 to 4.1.1 without re-installing everything? Maybe change some software sources?, ..07:32
tuomoprcurrently i have : version 4.3.90.2 (Xfce 4.4 BETA1)07:33
tuomoprhmm.. maybe this is stupid question :) ... Can i just get a .DEB package from xfce4's mainsite and install it? I'm afraid i can break something.07:34
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steve___tuomopr:  what's in the 7.10 repos?07:44
steve___tuomopr: why do you want to upgrade?07:45
tuomoprsteve, sorry, i dont understand your question? .. do you mean what do i have in my sources.list?07:45
tuomopr(i'm not very professional with this :) )07:45
steve___s'all good07:45
steve___why do you want to update those packages?07:46
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tuomopri want to try the compositor effects in new xfce4 :)07:46
steve___doesn't 4.4 come with 7.04?07:48
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tuomoprabout says: version 4.3.90.2 (Xfce 4.4 BETA1)07:48
tuomoprand this is not the newest... xubuntu 7.10 has newer.07:49
tuomopri could update completely to that also if i knew what i have to do07:49
tuomoprwithout re-installing everything....07:49
steve___what version of xubuntu are you running?07:50
tuomoprhmm... where could i check it? Originally, i installed ubuntu. Then removed ubuntu-desktop, and replaced it with xubuntu-desktop.07:51
tuomoprhmm.. Xfce 4.2 according to help file. (checking the xubuntu version)07:52
tuomoprUbuntu 6.06.1 says terminal login.07:52
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tuomoprMaybe i should just copy everything important to different harddisk and re-install07:53
tuomopr=07:53
tuomopr?07:53
OwdGitRontuomopr: Applications>About Xfce07:53
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tuomoprOwdGitRon, it only talks about xfce4 ?07:54
tuomopr"Xfce 4 Desktop Environment \n version 4.3.90.2 (Xfce 4.4 BETA1)"07:54
steve___tuomopr: do not reinstall - with linux that isn't the default action07:54
tuomoprsteve :)07:56
tuomoprok, ... sometimes it just feels easiest :)07:56
steve___tuomopr: i suggest upgrading to 6.10 and then upgrade to 7.0407:56
tuomoprsteve, so... how do i do that?07:56
steve___yeah but you aren't learning anything07:56
tuomoprsteve, i will try without re-installing. Actually thats what i prefer ... Would be terrible job to copy everything important.07:57
tuomoprsteve, something like this ? gksu "update-manager -c -d"07:58
steve___in /etc/apt/source.list replace all instances of 'dapper' with 'edgy' and save the file.  From a terminal type "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"07:58
tuomoprok steve, i'm trying right now.07:58
steve___make sure you have a solid net connection and some time to kill  :)07:59
steve___after you get it upgraded then you'll have to do it again.  This time change all instances of 'edgy' to 'feisty'.07:59
tuomopri do, and this is not my only computer (=i can get help if something goes wrong)07:59
tuomoprthanks.08:00
tuomoprok,08:00
steve___ask google and if you're still confused, ask here08:02
tuomoprOk, thanks steve08:03
steve___just make sure once you're a wizard you come back here and help out others  :)08:04
tuomoprWill be my pleasure :)08:05
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khatuidohello wbadger08:22
khatuidoi try install java with ur link on my firefox32 but it doesn't work, can u help me?08:23
wbadgerkhatuido, hi I'm back now08:23
wbadgerwhat is the problem?08:24
khatuidoi want install java08:24
khatuidoon my firefox3208:24
wbadgeryeah?08:24
khatuidothe flash plugin works but not the java one08:24
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khatuidoi do like the explain in the link u give me08:24
wbadgerdidf you install java on your computer?08:24
khatuidoi guess08:25
khatuidohow i can check?08:25
khatuidoi install one java thing too08:25
khatuidothe java 1.4.208:25
wbadgerdid you download a file from the java website?08:25
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khatuidoyes08:25
wbadgerwhere did you install it?08:26
wbadgerand what version?08:26
khatuidoi do like this one :08:26
khatuidohttp://allostalk.com/showthread.php?s=3ddbb81fc8eea4b341a8df240c9622b2&t=20253708:26
khatuidodownload the linux self extracting file08:27
khatuidojava 608:27
wbadgerand you downloaded the 32 bit one right?08:27
khatuidoyes08:27
wbadgerthe second option08:27
khatuidofor my firefox3208:27
wbadgerok then08:27
khatuidoyes08:27
wbadgerdid you extract it?08:27
khatuidoyes08:28
wbadgerin the folder /usr/local/java32?08:28
khatuidoyes08:28
khatuidolike they explain08:28
wbadgershow me please the content of the directory /usr/local/firefox32/plugins08:28
khatuidocp -r -p ./jre1.6.0_02/* /usr/local/java3208:28
wbadgerkhatuido, "ls /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"08:29
khatuidoflashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libnpp.so  libnullplugin.so08:29
khatuidoi don't go the java thing i copy in /usr/local/java3208:30
khatuidoi need copy in plugin?08:30
wbadgeryou see you missed the last step08:30
wbadgerdo not copy the plugin08:30
khatuido?08:31
wbadgeryou must create a link to it instead. do this command: "ln -s /usr/local/java32/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/"08:31
wbadgeractually you need permission08:31
wbadgerso:  "sudo ln -s /usr/local/java32/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/"08:31
wbadgerok?08:33
khatuidogood :)08:33
khatuidoit work08:33
khatuidothanks you :)08:33
wbadger:)08:34
khatuidou a king of installing :D08:34
wbadgerthat was nothing08:35
khatuidothanks u :)08:36
wbadgernp :>08:37
khatuidooh08:37
khatuidoi try install a software yersterday08:37
khatuidoxvidcap08:37
khatuidou know it?08:37
wbadgerit is a program for capturing the screen right?08:37
khatuidoyes08:38
khatuidoi want a video screen capture08:38
khatuidofor my game08:38
khatuidobut don't success install it08:38
khatuidoi choose the "Platform-independent"08:38
khatuidoso normaly on amd64 it must work no?08:38
wbadgerwait, you tried to download it from a site?08:38
khatuidoyes08:39
khatuidohttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8153508:39
khatuidothere is i386 but i think it's for 32 bits no? so i think the platform-independent is the one for my amd64 environnement no?08:40
wbadgerlook08:40
wbadgerin ubuntu you usually don't want to install from sites08:40
wbadgerespecially if it is not stated that it's a 64 bit version08:40
wbadgerinstead we have package repositories which are officially supported08:41
wbadgerunfortunately I'm not sure xvidcap is in the repositories08:41
khatuidoi saw it but don't find a repository with xvidcap08:41
khatuidoi find something08:42
khatuidobut it didn't work08:42
khatuidohttp://asher256.tuxfamily.org/index.php?2006/06/19/122-depot-ubuntu-xvidcap-pour-dapper-est-de-retour08:42
khatuidoso i tried download and install the software08:43
khatuidowe cannot in ubuntu?08:43
wbadgerI can't read french...08:43
khatuidooh08:43
khatuidosorry i didn't check08:43
wbadgerwell I didn't say we can't install from the site, but it is never the preffered way08:44
khatuidohttp://asher256-repository.tuxfamily.org/08:44
khatuidou can choose english08:45
khatuidostar there08:45
wbadgerkhatuido, I checked the sourceforge.net site, the platform independent download is for the source code, which means you must compile it yourself.08:46
khatuidoyes08:46
khatuidobut the problem08:47
khatuidoi try it08:47
khatuidohumm08:47
khatuido./configure08:47
khatuidothen "make"08:47
khatuidobut make don't work08:47
wbadgerwhat does "make" say?08:47
khatuidono file make08:48
khatuidoor no option make08:48
khatuidoit's in french08:48
khatuidothey said no target08:48
wbadgerok then, I think we can compile08:48
khatuidoor no makefile08:48
wbadgerbut there is probably a better way08:49
khatuidohow compile?08:49
wbadgerwell first you must install the package "build-essential", before you compile anything08:50
khatuidowith apt-get?08:50
wbadgeryes, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"08:50
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khatuidoit's done08:51
khatuidothen ?08:51
wbadgerok now you can try again08:51
wbadgergo to the directory where the source is08:51
wbadgerwith the command "cd08:52
wbadgerthen "./configure"08:52
khatuidomake doesn't work08:52
wbadgerstill?08:52
steve___does he have gcc installed?08:52
wbadgerdoesn't build-essential depend on gcc?08:53
wbadgerkhatuido, what is the error message you get when you try to run "make"08:53
khatuidoThe pkg-config script could not be found or is too old.  Make sure it08:53
khatuidois in your PATH or set the PKG_CONFIG environment variable to the full08:53
khatuidopath to pkg-config.08:53
khatuidoAlternatively, you may set the environment variables PACKAGE_CFLAGS08:53
khatuidoand PACKAGE_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.08:53
khatuidoSee the pkg-config man page for more details.08:53
khatuidowbadger what is gcc?08:55
steve___nevermind wbadger is right08:56
wbadgerkhatuido, it is the standard compiler for the C programming language08:56
khatuidooh oki08:56
wbadgerkhatuido, I'll try it myself08:59
khatuidooki :)08:59
wbadgerkhatuido, ?09:05
khatuidoyes?09:05
khatuidowbadger i was on phone09:06
wbadgerI want you to enter the source directory in terminal again, and run ./configure again, this time paste everything you get into the box here http://pastebin.com/09:06
wbadgerthen press "send" and tell me the address of the page you get09:06
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porto88hey can someone help me compile socks proxy server?09:07
porto88is anyone here?09:08
wbadgerI'm here. what is the problem?09:08
porto88when i type ./configure, it gives me an error at the end that says09:08
porto88configure: error: *** Some of the headers weren't found ***09:08
porto88and im really new to linux, so im not even sure where to go from there09:09
wbadgerporto88, you have the whole source code?09:09
wbadgerand why is it you are trying to compile from source?09:10
porto88i couldn't seem to find a package for it...09:10
wbadgerkhatuido, ?09:10
porto88whats that?09:10
wbadgerkhatuido is the another person in this room09:11
porto88lol oh...nm then09:11
wbadgerporto88, I believe there is a package09:11
wbadgerporto88, it is called socks4-server09:11
wbadgerdo you know how to install a packge?09:12
porto88alright let me look again09:12
porto88i think so09:12
khatuidowbadger http://pastebin.com/m740f720309:12
porto88i don't see the package in the synaptic package manager09:13
wbadgerporto88, what version of xubuntu are you using?09:13
porto886.1009:13
wbadgerkhatuido, please install the package "pkg-config"09:14
khatuidooki09:14
khatuidoi install then http://pastebin.com/d544c74a109:17
khatuidothat after ./configure09:17
khatuidooh hello porto88 :p09:18
khatuidosorry i was in phone in same time09:18
khatuido:D09:18
porto88hi09:19
wbadgerporto88, this package appears to exist in your version too!09:19
System79wbadger <309:19
wbadgerit is in the Universe repository09:19
wbadgerSystem79, hi there09:19
System79:)09:19
khatuidohey System7909:19
wbadgerporto88, you need to enable the universe repository and then you will be able to find the package.09:20
System79hai09:20
khatuidou don't got problem now System79?09:20
System79porto88: Applications -> System -> Synaptic packagem anager09:20
System79khatuido: No problems except i still dont have the drivers :D09:20
System79But i have an interface now09:21
khatuido:p09:21
porto88yeh im there09:21
porto88but i do not see socks anything even when i goto all09:21
khatuidoso two expert ready now :)09:21
System79porto88: in synaptic package manager go to the Settings thing at the top and click repositories09:22
System79Then check them all09:22
porto88ok09:22
khatuidowbadger: i must instal gtk something?09:22
System79porto88: Now try finding the package :p09:23
wbadgerkhatuido, I'm sorry didn't have time to look at the new pastebin09:23
porto88still downloading09:23
khatuidowbadger: u busy?09:23
System79khatuido09:23
wbadgerI was talking to someone else in the #beryl channel too :P09:24
System79whats ur problem?09:24
khatuidoi try install a software09:24
khatuido:p09:24
System79Now thats helpfull XD09:24
khatuidobut don't understand my last trace09:24
khatuidohttp://pastebin.com/d544c74a109:24
wbadgerkhatuido, you are correct. the error messsage tells you exactly the problem09:24
wbadgerthere are four packages you need to install09:24
khatuidowith apt-get?09:24
System79Apt-get or add/remove or synaptic package manager09:25
System79all works :)09:25
wbadgeryes khatuido09:25
wbadgersimply09:25
khatuidooki oki09:25
wbadgersudo apt-get install gtk+-2.0 libglade-2.0 glib-2.0 gthread-2.009:25
System79Nickleback -> If everyone cared <-- Supermusic :)09:25
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khatuidoi don't find the package gtk+2.009:27
porto88ok found them09:28
porto88and its downloading now09:28
wbadgerkhatuido, did you try "gtk+-2.0" ? there is a dash there after the plus sign09:29
khatuidodash?09:30
khatuidowhere?09:30
wbadgerdash is like a minus : "-"09:30
khatuidooh yes09:30
wbadgeryou tried gtk+2.0, try gtk+-2.009:30
khatuidokhatuido@pcgk-mobile:~/Desktop/xvidcap-1.1.6$ sudo apt-get install gtk+-2.0Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait09:31
khatuidoConstruction de l'arbre des dpendances09:31
khatuidoLecture de l'information d'tat... Fait09:31
khatuidoE: Impossible de trouver le paquet gtk+-2.009:31
khatuidothey don't find it09:31
wbadgerkhatuido, we need to find the correct name, just a minute09:33
wbadgertry this: "sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0*"09:36
wbadgerkhatuido, this should install about 4 packages09:36
wbadgeroh wait thats too much09:36
khatuidoi lauch09:37
khatuidolaunch09:37
wbadgerwait a minute09:37
khatuidoit's too late09:37
wbadgeryou can cancel :)09:37
khatuidohow?09:37
wbadgerwell if you install too much its not that bad, just a wait09:37
khatuidoctrl c?09:37
wbadgerbut ok then09:37
wbadgerbetter not09:37
khatuidohow cancel?09:37
khatuidoit look install a lot09:38
khatuidool09:38
khatuidolol09:38
wbadgeryou install 3 packages too much, that's not bad at all. you could cancel when it asked you09:38
wbadgerhow many packages?09:38
khatuidooh oki09:38
khatuidodon't know09:38
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wbadgeryou can try ctrl+c but I don't think you should09:38
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khatuidothere is many text09:38
wbadgerok then.. we can uninstall the ones we don't need09:38
wbadgerafter it finishes.. would you like that?09:39
khatuidoi don't think it must be very fat?09:39
khatuidono?09:39
wbadgerbut it is still unimportant09:39
khatuidoit's long09:40
khatuidolol09:40
wbadgerso when it finishes, if you like you can remove some with this: "sudo apt-get remove libgtk2.0-data libgtk2.0-0-dbg libgtk2.0-0png3 libgtk2.0-doc libgtk2.0-cil libgtk2.0-dbg"09:41
wbadgerI'm sorry I made you install so much .. I didn't think there would be ten of those. but it will not do harm09:41
khatuido^09:42
khatuido^^09:42
wbadgerdid it finish now?09:42
khatuidoyes09:42
khatuidou make me install09:42
khatuidoes paquets supplmentaires suivants seront installs:09:42
khatuido  binfmt-support libatk1-ruby libatk1.0-dev libcairo-perl libcairo-ruby09:42
khatuido  libcairo-ruby1.8 libcairo2-dev libexpat1-dev libfontconfig1-dev libfreetype609:42
khatuido  libfreetype6-dev libgdiplus libgdk-pixbuf2-ruby libglib-perl libglib2-ruby09:42
khatuido  libglib2.0-cil libglib2.0-dev libgtk2-ex-podviewer-perl09:42
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khatuidooups09:43
khatuidobanned09:43
khatuidolol09:43
wbadgerkicked.. it was an honect mistake.09:43
khatuidohttp://pastebin.com/d7946a1ec09:43
khatuidothis09:43
khatuido:)09:43
wbadgerwell do you want to remove all the packages that are not important?09:43
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khatuidoif u can easy09:44
khatuidoelse i don't really care09:44
wbadgerlets try to ./configure now, and later you can remove everything listed there (just copy and paste the lists after "sudo apt-get remove"09:45
khatuidohumm09:46
khatuidostill a problem09:46
khatuido error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0 libglade-2.0 glib-2.0 gthread-2.0) were not met:09:47
khatuidoNo package 'libglade-2.0' found09:47
khatuidoi try apt-get on it doesn't work09:47
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khatuidostill a problem wbadger09:48
khatuido error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0 libglade-2.0 glib-2.0 gthread-2.0) were not met:09:48
khatuidoNo package 'libglade-2.0' found09:48
khatuidoapt-get not works on it09:48
wbadgernstall this package:libglade2-dev09:49
khatuidonot the good one09:51
khatuidocos it change nothing on the ./configure09:51
wbadgerthen try this one :P (sorry): libglade2-009:52
khatuidostill not good one09:53
khatuido:p09:53
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khatuidoi uninstall them09:55
wbadgerare you sure khatuido that you did it well?09:55
wbadgersudo apt-get install libglade-2.0 libglade2-dev09:55
wbadgerit worked for me09:55
wbadgerkhatuido, maybe the error message is now different?09:56
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khatuidolibglade-2.0 this one doesn't  exist09:58
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wbadgersorry, no dash (libglade2.0)09:58
khatuidolibglade2-0      libglade2.0-cil  libglade2-dev    libglade2-ruby09:59
khatuidowhich one?09:59
khatuidofirst?09:59
wbadgeryes..10:00
khatuidostill libglade-2.0not found10:00
wbadgerplease tell me the output of "dpkg -l | grep libglade2"10:01
khatuidohehe10:01
khatuidoi know what i need install10:01
khatuidothe third10:01
khatuido:D10:02
wbadgerI told you to install the third one before10:02
khatuidono10:02
khatuidoanother10:02
wbadger<wbadger> nstall this package:libglade2-dev10:02
wbadgeryou see, that was many messages ago :P10:02
khatuidooh yes10:02
khatuidosorry10:02
khatuido:D10:02
wbadger:)10:02
khatuidobut i thought i install it10:03
khatuido:s10:03
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khatuidobut make still doesn't work10:03
cellofellowwhat are we compiling?10:04
khatuidoa stupid software for me :D10:04
khatuidobut i am a noob10:04
wbadgerxvidcap10:06
wbadgerit seems to have a lot of dependencies10:06
cellofellowis there something wrong with the repositories version?10:06
cellofellow!info xvidcap10:06
ubotuPackage xvidcap does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:06
cellofellowoh, I see10:07
cellofellowit's not there10:07
wbadger:] 10:07
wbadgerexactly10:07
wbadgerkhatuido, what is the error now?10:07
khatuidowbadger : is it important "Couldn't find libXmu in LD_LIBRARY_PATH, checking X11 paths"10:07
khatuido?10:07
wbadgerI think the only important things appear in the end10:07
wbadgerwhat error does it give?10:08
wbadgerchecking for XmuClientWindow in -lXmu... no10:08
wbadgerCouldn't find libXmu in LD_LIBRARY_PATH, checking X11 paths10:08
wbadgerchecking for XmuClientWindow in -lXmu... no10:08
wbadgerlibXmu required for drawing the frame around the area to capture10:08
wbadgersomething like this? bah should have used pastebin..10:09
khatuidoyes10:09
khatuidooki10:09
khatuidobut i just got that10:09
khatuidohttp://pastebin.com/md6af92510:10
wbadgerok then khatuido10:12
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khatuidothen?10:12
wbadgersorry just a minute10:12
khatuidooki oki10:12
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wbadgerkhatuido, sudo apt-get install libxmu-dev10:14
wbadgerafter I did that, configure seemed to work, it is processing a lot of text.10:14
wbadgerkhatuido, I almost forgot we are doing all this for xvidcap.10:15
khatuidolol10:16
wbadgerkhatuido, I guess it is a good experience, but perhaps it would have been a better idea to go for recordmydesktop10:16
khatuidobut i learn use it :)10:16
khatuidoi try install recordmydesktop10:16
khatuidodon't success10:16
khatuidolol10:16
wbadgerwhy not?10:16
khatuidodon't know with amd64 all is more hard10:17
khatuidoi think choose this one was my worst idea10:17
wbadgeryou tried to install recordmydestop from source??10:17
wbadgerthere is a package for it..10:17
khatuidoyes cos it's for 3210:17
wbadger!info recordmydesktop10:17
uboturecordmydesktop: Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 128 kB10:17
khatuidooh10:18
wbadgerif you have ubuntu 64bit, the packages for it are 64 bit also. so if there is a package USE IT lol :)10:18
khatuidoi can with apt-get?10:18
wbadgernow you learned another important thing.10:18
wbadgeryes!10:18
khatuido^10:18
wbadger:D10:18
khatuido^^10:18
khatuidobut nvm xvidcam is better10:18
khatuidoi guess10:18
khatuidoi can choose a part of my screen10:18
khatuidonormaly10:19
wbadgerit better be...10:19
khatuidolol10:19
wbadgeryou can try them both and decide10:19
wbadgerdid you manage to ./configure yet?10:19
khatuidoit's still running10:19
khatuidoa lot of text10:20
khatuidoblablabla10:20
wbadgeryes it was like that for me too10:20
wbadgermake will also take sometime10:20
khatuidoi don't know why they put so many text don't time to see it :D10:20
wbadgerwell make does not take long, I was wrong.10:21
wbadgerI managed to install by now.10:21
wbadgerSo you should be able to too10:21
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khatuidoit's still configure10:22
wbadgeryou were right, khatuido, it is a great program10:24
khatuidoyes :)10:24
khatuidoi saw some screen shoot10:24
khatuidoit look great10:24
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khatuidomy configure is very long10:25
khatuidois it normal?10:25
wbadgeryes10:25
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khatuidofinish10:27
khatuidoi do make?10:28
khatuidowbadger i launch :)10:28
wbadgerkhatuido, "make"10:28
wbadgerand when that is done10:28
wbadger"sudo make install"10:28
khatuidothen make install?10:28
khatuidooki10:29
khatuidoit looks work10:29
khatuido:)10:29
wbadger:)10:29
wbadgergood job10:29
khatuidoi try  on the chat10:29
khatuido:)10:29
khatuidohummm10:30
khatuidodon't know how save10:30
khatuidohumm10:32
khatuidoi will try10:32
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wbadgerit saves it automatically when you stop :) in your home folder10:32
khatuidooh10:33
hyper_chhiho, I'm back10:33
wbadgerhi there10:34
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khatuidohello10:35
khatuidodon't success read the video10:36
khatuido:p10:36
hyper_chkhatuido: you have a problem=?10:36
khatuidoohoh10:37
wbadgerwhat do you mean?10:37
khatuidoi got big problem10:37
khatuidoi lost all my system things10:37
khatuidowhere there is synaptic10:37
hyper_chkhatuido: what system things?10:37
wbadgeryou mean the XFCE menu?10:37
khatuidoall the stuff for install10:37
khatuidoyes10:37
wbadgerdo you have a panel?10:37
khatuidoa panel is a menu?10:38
wbadgerno, the panel is that line which has launchers inside it, sometimes a menu, system tray, minimized windows10:38
khatuidoi just lost the menu where there is add and remove10:38
wbadgerso press with your right button on the panel10:38
wbadgerclick "Add Launcher"10:39
hyper_chkhatuido: oh... do you know how to open a terminal?10:39
wbadgersorry, "Add New Item"10:39
khatuidothen?10:39
wbadgerthen choose the last one, XFCE Menu :)10:39
wbadgerand click Add of course10:40
khatuidono10:40
khatuidoit's add another menu10:40
khatuidoi ever got it10:40
khatuidobut the problem is i lost a lot of program10:40
khatuidoinside10:40
wbadgeroh...10:40
khatuidolike the thing for install10:40
khatuidosynaptic10:41
khatuidoor something like that10:41
khatuidoand all the setting10:41
wbadgeryou lost things in the "System" submenu?10:41
khatuidowhen i remove libglad....10:41
khatuidoyes all10:41
khatuido:)10:41
khatuidothat so bad10:41
hyper_chkhatuido: open a shell termina10:41
wbadgerall other submenus are ok?10:41
khatuidoyes10:42
khatuidojust this one10:42
khatuidobut i use the add and remove for install software but now cannot go in10:42
khatuidoit's removed10:42
khatuidohyper_ch i got a shell10:43
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khatuidowbadger can i install it again?10:45
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wbadgerkhatuido, try running "synaptic" from a terminal, lets see if that works10:47
hyper_chkhatuido: open a shell termina10:47
hyper_chkhatuido: then run this:    sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop10:47
khatuidothey ask me install10:47
hyper_chkhatuido: ?10:48
khatuidoi try10:48
khatuidoit install a lot of thing10:48
hyper_chkhatuido: like?10:49
khatuidour things10:49
hyper_chkhatuido: like?10:49
khatuidodon't know too much text10:50
khatuidoi cannot copy paste10:50
khatuidoi think i lost my desktop10:50
khatuidobefore10:50
hyper_chkhatuido: well, "things" doesn't help much as a description10:50
khatuidohumm my desktop10:51
khatuidoubuntu sound10:51
khatuidomany lins10:51
khatuidolibs10:51
khatuidoit's not finish10:51
khatuidoit looks work10:52
hyper_chkhatuido: it looks work?10:52
khatuidomy menu appear10:52
khatuido:)10:52
khatuidothanks hyper_ch10:52
khatuido:)10:52
khatuidoi got all my menu i guess10:53
khatuido:)10:53
System79khatuido :D10:54
khatuidodon't laugh not funny his menu :(10:54
khatuidou know it ;)10:54
System79xD10:54
khatuido:p10:55
wbadgergoodbye guys :)10:57
khatuidogood bye11:07
System79u leavin too?11:08
System79:x11:08
khatuidoyea11:08
khatuido:p11:08
khatuidou will be alone11:08
System79why :(11:08
khatuidolol11:08
System79 *cries*11:08
khatuidolol11:08
System79no seriously11:08
System79u leaving?11:08
System79>.>11:08
khatuidohumm11:08
khatuidosoon i guess11:09
System79what irc client u using11:09
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khatuidome?11:10
System79yes11:10
System79=P11:10
khatuidoKonversation11:10
khatuidou know it?11:10
System79come to server phrozen-systems.ath.cx same channel? :P11:10
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khatuidohumm11:12
khatuidoi search how do it11:12
khatuidooh i find11:12
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System79:P11:12
System79lol why did you disconnect arleady11:14
System79XD11:14
hyper_chSystem79: ?11:15
System79i wasnt talking to you11:17
System79=/11:17
chalshi everybody11:17
chalssomeone can helpme11:18
chalsmy apt-get can not install anything i already change the source.list several times11:18
hyper_chchals: well, what error do you get?11:19
chalsno found package11:19
hyper_chchals: then there's none available11:20
chalsshould i  change my sources.list?11:21
chalsit can not found any pakage11:22
hyper_chchals: well, I have no clue what you did11:23
hyper_chchals: you could pastebin yours11:24
chalsok11:27
chalschals@xubuntu-gateway:/etc$ sudo apt-get install netselect-apt11:28
chalsLeyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho11:28
chalsCreando rbol de dependencias11:28
chalsLeyendo informacin de estado... Hecho11:28
hyper_ch!pastebin | chals11:28
ubotuchals: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:28
chalsE: No se pudo encontrar el paquete netselect-apt11:28
hyper_chchals: and you could pastebin your sources.list11:28
chalsok11:29
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nikolamHello, I got to share one amazing thing with you folks here ;)11:35
nikolamI just removed PATA IDE disk and putted in external USB2.0->IDE box11:35
nikolamAnd.. Xubuntu Works!11:36
System79Thats known ;D11:36
nikolam:)) Amazing to me :)11:36
nikolamSurely I have no idea how (maybe motherboard support it) But i am still amazed :)11:37
System79:)11:37
nikolamXp on same disk did not boot, of course :)11:37
hyper_chxp sucks11:37
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cheeseboymy bios cant boot usb is there a boot loader that will let me?11:39
hyper_chcheeseboy: maybe grub will11:41
cheeseboyhow?11:41
hyper_chcheeseboy: I said "maybe"11:42
cheeseboy:/11:42
cheeseboyi need how11:42
cheeseboy:(11:42
hyper_chcheeseboy: how about informing yourself what grub can do and what not?11:44
cheeseboynah11:47
hyper_chcheeseboy: well, then you'll never konw11:49
cheeseboyu could find out then wed both know11:50
cheeseboyj/kj11:50
cheeseboy:-P11:50
hyper_chI don't need to know, my computer boots from DSL just perfectly from my usb stick11:51
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Troubled-Jayhey, anyone know how to burn a DVD with subtitles? do i just add the srt file to the root directory of the DVD, or in VIDEO_TS?12:05
Troubled-Jayor do i have to add them as permanent to the AVI first?12:05
Troubled-Jaytried googling this, but couldn't really find anything useful, just forum posts, mainly about DVD players that play divx12:06
hyper_chTroubled-Jay: copy it12:07
hyper_chTroubled-Jay: or use k9copy (or shrinkdvd with wine)12:07
Troubled-Jayi'm not copying a DVD, i'm using an AVI i ripped from VHS, and subtitles i found online.12:09
Troubled-Jayi take it i'll need to re-encode the avi as MPEG-2, then overlay the subtitles? i've never done this with linux before, what tools can i use for that?12:12
Troubled-Jaya video transcoder should be easy enough to find, i guess, but what can i use to add the subtitles?12:13
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