[12:26] better ways to spend 300 bucks than give a kid a phone thats built so cheaply that itll break the first time its dropped. [12:26] they have really sturdy nextel phones [12:27] ive seen and messed around with those [12:27] those are decent, but still overpriced. [12:27] all of the other ones...shit they feel like your gonna break them just by opening them up [12:27] what do you think is more important ? [12:28] i think its more important for parents to keep an eye on their children themselves rather than think OH ITS OK, LET EM RUNN AROUND ALL NIGHT EVEN THOUGH HES 10! HES GOT A CELLPHONE! [12:28] cellphone to the rescue! [12:28] thats a bunch of bs. [12:28] :D [12:28] !offtopic [12:28] #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [12:28] move to offtopic please [12:28] argh [12:29] silly buggers === totalwormage [n=worm@flits102-83.flits.rug.nl] has left #xubuntu ["meh"] [12:30] ok lets just sit here in silence to not piss the rule harping fascists off. === twiggz shrugs [12:30] :P you could join #xubuntu-offtopic :P [12:31] yea, and i could join a thousand others too... [12:31] ill just part this one. [12:31] thanks for the advice. === twiggz [n=mike@75-161-61-179.albq.qwest.net] has left #xubuntu [] === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-160-111.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === steve___ [n=steve@kit-dhcp1.porchlight.ca] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA [n=thomas@67-150-244-254.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:17] Bah can someone send a mail to rick@phrozen-systems.ath.cx i want to see if my mail server works :$ === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === mscdex [i=yep@ppp-69-223-46-39.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu === mscdex [i=yep@ppp-69-223-46-39.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] [01:34] System79, Mail yourself, register somewhere with that address. No big deal. [01:34] kalikiana: Already did that >.> [01:35] System79, So don't keep us busy people from important work. :P [01:35] Like im not busy ;) [01:35] Ive been here all day yesterday helping people so dont complain =P [01:36] be right back [01:36] System79, I'll keep complaining because you weren't here offering support all the other days. :| === System79 [n=System79@ip201-151-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #xubuntu [01:40] true [01:40] u sent me a mail jester? [01:40] kalikiana, can i bother you? [01:40] nope [01:40] mmk [01:40] still cant send [01:40] i thought someone did :p [01:40] Jester45, Sure [01:40] yea :) im in the club === Jester45 thinks his in the club because he does not bother to much [01:42] ;D [01:43] still workin on the email [01:44] Jester45, Do you also have a mail server issue or what? [01:44] no [01:44] a "i havent used email in a year and have to fix a smtp problem" [01:46] I could hook you up with an adress at my server but i dont think u want that ;) [01:46] i sent it [01:46] asdf? :p [01:46] i have 2 one good one and one free one === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-244-254.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:46] yea [01:46] mmk [01:46] and my good one doesnt send [01:47] i love my 100gb mailbox now [01:47] :) [01:47] i get a 550 [01:47] but for no reason [01:48] * error occurred on SMTP session [01:48] *** Error occurred while sending the message: [01:48] 550 This user account is not authorized to send messages with the address . [01:48] Whoopie [01:48] System79, what servers are you using [01:48] I'd think of a) illegal from address, b) reuqired smtpauth [01:48] U didnt enter a password or your account is deleted [01:49] well [01:49] i can get mail [01:49] Jester45: Im using postfix amavisd and courier imap/pop3 [01:49] :p [01:49] just not send [01:49] then their mail server isnt configured right [01:49] >:) [01:49] well its nerdshack.com but they changed to lavabit.com [01:50] but they said the old names will be supported still [01:50] Jester45, Depending on your mail client, you might need to enable smtpauth [01:50] the test working account is a lavabit one [01:50] i will try that [01:50] How do i add new users again [01:50] >.> [01:50] adduser [01:51] syntax? [01:51] man adduser :P [01:51] adduser user group [01:51] no password? :$ [01:51] There is passwd. [01:51] fine dont listen to me [01:52] kalikiana, for send i have user ssl for SMTP [01:52] there is user STARTTLS command to start SSL session and dont use ssl but if necessary use starttls [01:53] and i have use non-blocking ssl checked [01:53] Jester45, ssl might be the problem, e.g. my smtp makes problems with ssl [01:53] everyone has smtp [01:54] Sure, that's why I said "ssl" can make problems. [01:54] im using sylpheed-clawsgtk2 [01:56] ummm [01:56] errr [01:56] ;x [01:56] i think i broke sylpheed [01:56] Jester45 read pm :P [01:57] i did [01:57] Want it? [01:57] >..> [01:57] no not really [01:57] K === kalikiana_ [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-178-227.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B95677.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === guest68765468732 [n=Sydney@cpe-76-88-94-25.san.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p54B9622C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === curiogeo [n=mandani@bas13-ottawa23-1088841545.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [03:32] I have a desktop running xubuntu and I want to move the working copy of hda to the new server box [03:32] will this work [03:33] possibly [03:33] but i think it would be best to just install on the box [03:33] what do I have to concern myself with [03:34] then I would have to reinstall SAMBA and the whole small office enviro [03:34] I want to transplant my DC to a new box like I would in windows [03:34] throw it in and look for new drivers [03:34] are you going to be making its a command line only server? [03:34] if necessary [03:34] it is now [03:34] no new drivers are needed [03:35] what about networkk cards [03:35] will they auto detect [03:35] should [03:36] you might have a problem with the gui config [03:36] so if I want to run the xub desktop you think there may be a problem [03:37] might be but it would take a minute to fix [03:37] ok so it is pretty low maintenance [03:37] what might be better is to make a fresh install and copy the configs for samba [03:38] but then the sid is going to be all messed up isn't it [03:40] dose the SAMBA security ID config move to the new server easily [03:41] umm [03:41] not sure [03:41] but it should be easier than coping the harddrive [03:42] i try not to use window stuff as it is not very good [03:43] you mean windows OS in general or SAMBA === tripppy [n=tripppy@c220-237-80-19.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [03:43] samba uses windows file share protocol so it has windows in it [03:45] granted === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-160-111.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:46] It is the only way I can pracice domain control in my primarily windows environment === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu [03:46] Have you tried any other way? [03:46] What does it mean if Xubuntu locks up at "Mounting file systems" [03:46] ? [03:46] sounds bad [03:47] Really? [03:47] Is that during install, or on an installed system? [03:47] I'd turn off quiet and splash at the bootloader and get the goods. [03:47] During install [03:47] oh, ok [03:47] bug 107259 [03:47] Launchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107259 [03:47] I was assuming on an installed system. [03:47] well me i just use linux so nope. [03:47] Installing 6.06.1 [03:47] ? [03:48] curiogeo: Samba can be a Windows Domain Controller. [03:48] I use it for that now I was just wondering if there were alternatives [03:49] using a linux backend and a bunch of windows clients? [03:49] That's been used a lot. [03:49] Booting off the live CD.. It locks up at "Mounting root file systems" [03:49] Is there some kind of domain control [03:50] Samba can completely replace Windows NT networking stuff. [03:50] bug 107259 [03:50] Launchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107259 [03:50] guest68765468732, thats your bug [03:51] The desktop cd wont boot though. [03:51] I think guest68765468732 is saying it freezes at boot. Good thing he's using Dapper and it tells him stuff. [03:51] guest68765468732: try alt. [03:51] I can stick with samba - does anyone know of a tut that shows you how to migrate Samba to a new box [03:51] or wubi, heard good stuff about that. [03:51] K. [03:52] curiogeo: just copy files, and try to mimic samba confs I guess. [03:52] after a wubi install filesystem preformace dropes [03:52] not sure what you are up to [03:52] true [03:52] but wubi is good for newbs. [03:53] so is alt cd [03:53] so is livcd. [03:53] :) at least i think its simple, live cd isnt easy when you have a bug [03:54] guest68765468732: try alt cd. It's really really stable, being based off of the Debian installer. [03:54] I meant alt. >.< [03:54] the alt cd is freezing on boot? [03:55] Im afarid so. [03:56] >.< [03:56] I'm on a eMachines T2042. [03:56] never had that happen. [03:56] 128 meg ram. [03:59] do other Linux systems boot? Knoppix? DSL? [03:59] Puppy Linux booted. [04:02] So, Xubuntu not the way to go? [04:03] or perhaps a cd defect? [04:03] it may be [04:03] Ill trying burning another. [04:03] does the CD check thing work> [04:03] ? [04:03] it locks up at the same place. [04:03] try another CD, or try the same CD on another box. [04:04] k. [04:04] ill burn another. === [PM] Hate [n=CodyJ@cpe-24-243-181-90.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:12] <[PM] Hate> hello [04:12] <[PM] Hate> anyone willing to help me? [04:12] o.o if I'm able to [04:12] <[PM] Hate> im not sure whats causing it [04:12] <[PM] Hate> i have a cd-rw of xubuntu alternative (because the pc has 64mb of ram) [04:13] <[PM] Hate> gets to the installation (low memory mode, should be anyhow) and gets to like the very last steps [04:13] <[PM] Hate> of installing packages and configuring them [04:13] <[PM] Hate> and it says it cant find 2 of them [04:13] <[PM] Hate> like aptitude [04:13] <[PM] Hate> and another [04:14] <[PM] Hate> something along the lines of "cant find" [04:15] mhmm, did you check the cd for any defects? [04:15] <[PM] Hate> i suppose I should [04:15] <[PM] Hate> how long are u going to be on? [04:16] not too long, but I'm pretty sure someone else would be here [04:16] <[PM] Hate> lol :( [04:17] <[PM] Hate> well, ill give it my best and maybe burn it on a cd-r w/ another downloaded package [04:17] <[PM] Hate> so later [04:17] <[PM] Hate> thanks === [PM] Hate [n=CodyJ@cpe-24-243-181-90.hot.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] === guest68765468732 [n=Sydney@cpe-76-88-94-25.san.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:20] its working. [04:20] =D [04:21] o.o [04:22] n.n [04:35] ^(.-.)^ ~('-')~ [04:40] so I made the change to my new server box and the server is running I have changed one ethernet card working but the other is seeminingly not listening [04:40] how can I remove and reinstall an eth card [04:40] lspci to get you started [04:41] is this a mount and unmount kind of thing [04:41] nope [04:41] curiogeo, lspci is "list pci" [04:41] normally the kernel just takes care of it at boot time. [04:43] ok so if it is in lspci then what do I do remove it and restart the box then reinstall it again [04:43] that is the windows way [04:44] lspci will give you info on the card, and then you can find out more online or something. [04:44] ok I will take a look around [04:45] interesting thing is that the 2 controllers are identical [04:45] one seems to be working fine the other is not [04:45] picking up dhcp address [04:46] do they have ethN scripts? [04:46] I forget where they live in newer kernels, used to be /dev [04:47] If there was a previous one does it need to be erased and allowed to recreate itself [04:47] maybe [04:47] !eth [04:47] Sorry, I don't know anything about eth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:47] !eth0 [04:47] Sorry, I don't know anything about eth0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:48] !ethernet [04:48] Sorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:49] ubot is stumped [04:51] no, ubotu-er is stumped. [04:51] should lspci tell me the ethx that is associated to the device [04:52] dunno [04:52] mine doesn't [04:53] curiogeo: install bwm-ng and run it. It knows what all the ethernet cards are doing. [04:54] simple terminal network monitor [04:54] powerful though [04:55] any other name for that package [04:55] apt did not find it [04:55] you have universe enabled? [04:55] spelling goof [04:57] fyi: tab completion works with apt. [04:58] Just type sudo aptitude install somepackage and it will complete it. [04:58] double-tab for a list. [04:58] good tip [04:59] fyi: trying tab on all your common programs can help alot and take only a split second to test if it works [05:01] oh well not sure why but my OS just will not see the second interface [05:01] well [05:01] bye bye everyone i know you will miss me but i will be back in a few hours [05:01] cya jester [05:02] curiogeo: both cards do show in lspci? [05:04] yes they do [05:05] hmm [05:05] your telling me [05:06] I never figured out how the ethernet stuff works. [05:06] I am really baffled [05:07] try adding "auto eth1\niface eth1 inet dhcp" [05:07] that \n is a newline [05:07] to /etc/network/interfaces [05:07] then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [05:08] http://www.linuxforums.org/network/ask_dr._unx_2.html [05:15] I did that process of adding a new int to interfaces [05:15] no changes [05:15] New problem for me. [05:16] I am going to try adding a third interface [05:16] When the alt cd goes to the Desktop, all it loads is a white screen with a mouse. [05:16] and after a while, it locks up. [05:20] Help?? [05:21] cellofellow: got it by adding the iface as eth2 into the interfaces file [05:21] pretty peculiar it wouldn't addit on its own though === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-22-17-254.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B95950.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:34] guest68765468732: alt cd has no desktop [05:35] alt cd is command-line installation [05:35] Hu? [05:36] The Alternative CD installs a desktop OS using a command line installer. No desktop from the CD, only from hard drive. [05:36] Ah. [05:37] so, if you are getting a desktop from the CD, you have the Live or Desktop (same thing) CD. [05:37] Argh. === guest68765468732 [n=Sydney@cpe-76-88-94-25.san.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === Akuma_ [n=martin@218.81.95.113] has joined #xubuntu === cellofel1ow [n=josh@69-71-160-110.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu === Redimere [n=pj@c-24-147-189-235.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:39] hey all === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@61-229-43-62.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #xubuntu === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === Redimere [n=pj@c-24-147-189-235.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:02] Can somebody help me with ATI drivers? === Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === Redimere [n=XNETSplo@c-24-147-189-235.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:26] Is anybody alive? I've got a serious issue === Jester45 [n=ryan@72-161-146-2.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-244-77.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=ryan@72-161-146-2.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA [n=thomas@67-150-255-223.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === jeff_ [n=jeff@75-17-251-251.lightspeed.ftwotx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:06] anyone know how to take a screenshot with xfce? === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-255-223.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === jeff_ [n=jeff@75-17-251-251.lightspeed.ftwotx.sbcglobal.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === OGDA [n=thomas@67-150-255-223.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === zyth [n=Zyth@wnpgmb06dc1-3-110.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #Xubuntu === Mo0oSaH [n=mo0osah@cpe-70-116-21-77.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === vidar_ [n=vidar@193.216.156.38] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === zyth [n=Zyth@wnpgmb06dc1-3-110.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #Xubuntu [09:36] So ah... Ubuntu supports my WPA network by default...but in xubuntu, not? [09:36] did I just miss something? === Naughtyboy [n=Naughtyb@135.217.95.91.static.ter-s.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #xubuntu === kikr [n=ant@ool-435499fc.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu === jeff_ [n=jeff@75-17-251-251.lightspeed.ftwotx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:00] how do i take a ss in xubuntu? === echosystm [n=echosyst@ppp121-45-172-248.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:27] guys [10:27] ive got xfce4 installed [10:27] how do i enable automounting? === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5EF44.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@1-1-13-27a.rny.sth.bostream.se] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === OwdGitRon [n=ron@88-110-12-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@1-1-13-27a.rny.sth.bostream.se] has joined #xubuntu === Dr`Maison [n=fred@62.147.164.174] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === MiP-Boxer[I] [n=W4R@71-218-251-94.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:29] whats up guys === hhlp [n=hhlp@164.Red-83-61-176.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === System79 [n=System79@ip201-151-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@88-111-112-105.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === wbadger [n=wbadger@bzq-88-152-86-168.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:54] I trying to reinstall xubuntu 7.04 on my laptop but I get a "Failed to create a file system" error [01:54] what to do? === m0u5e [n=denniska@61-229-43-62.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:55] anyone know a good program for audio editting and recording [01:55] I installed the beta with no problems [01:58] m0u5e, how about audacity [01:58] k^^, try unmounting the partition just after you start the operation [01:59] k^^, I know that helped me install 7.04.. I think it's a bug in the install disk [02:00] bug 107259 [02:00] Launchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107259 [02:01] great [02:01] I'll have another go [02:02] good luck [02:02] thanks :) [02:05] yay I worked [02:05] :) [02:05] *it worked [02:05] thanks guys === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu.member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === Po1 [n=pok@ppp59-167-170-229.lns4.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:23] Hello hello [02:23] Whoops === Po1 is now known as po1 [02:23] nickname is wrong. :) === po1 is now known as mrpok [02:24] Better. [02:24] Well, I got xubuntu going! [02:25] (Im new to linux) === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu.member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu [02:26] nice job [02:26] Mind if I ask a few questions? [02:26] this is the support channel :P [02:27] Awesome. :) [02:28] I not sure if m,y keyboard is set up right. Occasionally Il try to type m, and it will give a system speaker beep, or put a comma before or after the ,m [02:28] Thusly. :) [02:28] So where do I go to select ,my keyboard type? I couldnt see it in languages,. [02:28] I never heard of something like that before.. [02:29] It may just be the keyboard, then. [02:29] I believe you can enter XFCE Menu -> Settings -> Keyboard Settings [02:29] Then enter the last tab [02:29] OK, where is the XFCE menu? [02:29] You can choose your keyboard type there, although I'm not sure it will help [02:30] Oh, applications... m,y bad. :) [02:30] I should have been able to figure that one out... *facepalm,* [02:30] I deleted the caption so I just call it the XFCE menu :) [02:32] Will I be able to plug and play my iMac USB keyboard? [02:32] I never tried, but there's one way to find out :) [02:33] OKieday [02:33] mmmmmmmm [02:33] woot, no worries. Time to clean the old keyboard, I guess. :) [02:33] :] [02:34] Thanks mate [02:34] Now, next question is a bit more involved [02:34] I chose xubuntu over ubuntu because Im running a PIII with 256MB RAM. [02:35] I chose it because it looks better and doesn't take as much memory as kubuntu ^^ [02:36] From what I have gathered, since Im not using GNOME or KDE, the applications designed for ubuntu or kubuntu wont work, correct? [02:37] mrpok: they should work fine [02:37] no that's not correct... ubuntu and kubuntu and xubuntu share application repositories, and every application in the repositories should work with every one of those [02:37] mrpok: the exception might be some of the applets that sit in the KDE/Gnome docks [02:37] Alright, thanks. [02:38] Well, I stuffed up trying to install GnomeBaker, then. [02:39] how did you try it? [02:40] XFCE -> System -> Synaptic Package Manager [02:40] Searched for it, marked the box to install, then hit apply. [02:41] ok then what seems to be the problem [02:41] ? [02:41] When I opened it, it gave me a string of error messages about things that werent installed. [02:42] I cant remember exactly what they were called, want me to d/l again and let you know? [02:42] do you mean that you installed it and afterwards, trying to run it you got error messages? [02:42] Yes [02:42] or when you tried to install you got those messages? [02:43] did you remove the package? [02:43] Yeah [02:43] with Synaptics again [02:43] ok... lets try it again. usually if a package needs other packages to be installed (called dependencies), it finds them automatically and asks you to install them === cliffdover [n=ircap8@190.84.55.147] has joined #xubuntu [02:45] The synaptic summary says 47 packages will be held back and not upgraded, 1 package will be installed [02:45] Is that normal? [02:45] *1 new package [02:46] I don't know why would it hold back these packages, sorry [02:46] I really have to go now, hopefully someone else here will be able to help [02:46] OK, no worries, thanks for your help so far. [02:46] :) goodbye [02:46] I appreciate you putting up with my ignorance. :) === magic_ninjai [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:50] Hrm, well GnomeBaker started up this time [02:50] *shrug* === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-179-131.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === echosystm [n=echosyst@ppp121-45-172-248.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:54] xfce seems to not pickup my internet keyboard shortcuts [02:55] is this normal? [02:55] i think i'm going to die [02:55] Im having keyboard problems too [02:55] the only works on every second press. Bizzare. [02:56] that is rather bizzare. [02:59] I have a single button mouse too, and I dont know how to right click. :) [02:59] lol [02:59] Web says F11 or F12 should work, but it doesnt seem to. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === Huh1 [n=adi@p57B26CA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:11] hey there. [03:11] Are there any things I have to keep in mind when installing xubuntu to a laptop? [03:11] like things that will be different from installing normal ubuntu to a normal box [03:16] no [03:16] everything should be setup normally [03:16] the only difference is the power management [03:17] ok [03:17] but the power management is difficult to handle? [03:22] no, it should be automatically installed [03:23] :) [03:23] So ah... Ubuntu supports my WPA network by default...but in xubuntu, not? The Network applet thing only had WEP as an option === zyth [n=Zyth@wnpgmb06dc1-3-110.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #Xubuntu === steve___ [n=steve@kit-dhcp1.porchlight.ca] has joined #xubuntu === Huh1 [n=adi@p57B26CA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #xubuntu [] === wbadger [n=wbadger@bzq-88-152-86-168.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #xubuntu === mahtavamatt [n=mahtavam@ppp-48-59.grapevine.net.au] has joined #xubuntu === Joakim [n=Leho@80-235-70-232-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === hhlp_ [n=hhlp@174.Red-83-49-114.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-179-131.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu === mahtavamatt [n=mahtavam@ppp-48-59.grapevine.net.au] has joined #xubuntu [05:13] join #alsa [05:13] oops === maxamill1on [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu === hhlp [n=hhlp@174.Red-83-49-114.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === Alkaron [n=Alkaron@177.246.95.91.static.ter-ks.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #xubuntu === Alkaron [n=Alkaron@177.246.95.91.static.ter-ks.siw.siwnet.net] has left #xubuntu [""Tweaking,] === otep [n=demo@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-114-193.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === zials [n=zials@bas3-windsor12-1177903771.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-253-234.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === jikuty [n=em@CPE001195752c87-CM00111ade8af2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === PMedau [n=pmedia@brln-4db1b7b8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #xubuntu [06:30] Hello [06:31] How I can disable fsck on boot? === apit [n=apit@217.112.38.100] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === PMedia [n=PMedia@brln-4db1b7b8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #xubuntu === PMedia [n=PMedia@brln-4db1b7b8.pool.einsundeins.de] has left #xubuntu [] === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === wheels3572 [n=wheels@dsl-69-50-50-80.pivot.net] has joined #xubuntu === tuomopr [n=tuomo@e82-103-210-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #xubuntu [07:32] Hello, ... Howto update my xubuntu's xfce4 to 4.1.1 without re-installing everything? Maybe change some software sources?, .. [07:33] currently i have : version 4.3.90.2 (Xfce 4.4 BETA1) [07:34] hmm.. maybe this is stupid question :) ... Can i just get a .DEB package from xfce4's mainsite and install it? I'm afraid i can break something. === s|k [n=bjorn@ip70-171-201-121.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === OwdGitRon [n=ron@88-110-12-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:44] tuomopr: what's in the 7.10 repos? [07:45] tuomopr: why do you want to upgrade? [07:45] steve, sorry, i dont understand your question? .. do you mean what do i have in my sources.list? [07:45] (i'm not very professional with this :) ) [07:45] s'all good [07:46] why do you want to update those packages? === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu [07:46] i want to try the compositor effects in new xfce4 :) [07:48] doesn't 4.4 come with 7.04? === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:48] about says: version 4.3.90.2 (Xfce 4.4 BETA1) [07:49] and this is not the newest... xubuntu 7.10 has newer. [07:49] i could update completely to that also if i knew what i have to do [07:49] without re-installing everything.... [07:50] what version of xubuntu are you running? [07:51] hmm... where could i check it? Originally, i installed ubuntu. Then removed ubuntu-desktop, and replaced it with xubuntu-desktop. [07:52] hmm.. Xfce 4.2 according to help file. (checking the xubuntu version) [07:52]