[12:15] <runlevelten> yeah, once you get used to kmail, it's nice
[12:15] <runlevelten> I now know why mac users used to go on about enjoying the "integration" of their crappy client now, heh
[12:15] <runlevelten> -now
[12:15] <grul> i like gmail
[12:15] <grul> :P
[12:15] <grul> the web client
[12:16] <rrbiz> odd this time migrate docs and settings from MS didn't recognize
[12:16] <elite101> where can i download DSL linux?
[12:17] <rrbiz> google it, it'll give u the website
[12:17] <jhutchins> elite101: There's this great web site at http://www.google.com/ that can answer all kinds of questions like that.
[12:17] <waylandbill> elite101: damnsmalllinux.org?
[12:18] <elite101> is that a real site?
[12:20] <Silent_G> Dragnslcr, checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[12:20] <Silent_G> what next?
[12:20] <Silent_G> lol
[12:20] <NickPresta> Silent_G, I believe you need the *-dev packages.
[12:21] <Dragnslcr> In this case, the Qt dev libraries
[12:21] <Silent_G> so qt dev now?
[12:21] <NickPresta> yes
[12:21] <Silent_G> ok
[12:21] <NickPresta> what are you compiling?
[12:21] <waylandbill> elite101: of course it is. It's the project's website.
[12:22] <rrbiz> someone know a trick to getting the laptop to recognize fn-f3 to turn of lcd screen ?
[12:23] <persen> ARGH i give up
[12:23] <rrbiz> think in dapper it did now in feisty it doesn't
[12:23] <NickPresta> rrbiz, which laptop do you have? It worked automagically on my Dell Latitude in Dapper
[12:23] <persen> spent 6 hours trying to get 1920x1080 but this shit makes me so angry i want to break something
[12:23] <rrbiz> averatec 1050
[12:23] <NickPresta> !language | persen
[12:23] <ubotu> persen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:23] <rrbiz> person modify ur xorg.conf
[12:24] <NickPresta> persen, what is your problem?
[12:24] <persen> rrbiz, done that all night
[12:24] <ERIK_LIMA> !libdvdcss
[12:24] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:24] <rrbiz> really and didn't kickin
[12:24] <rollergrrl> i need help with my sound card
[12:24] <persen> i have a 37 LCD FULL HD tv i try to run in 1920x1080 mode, it says in kde control center i have it but the sides of the desktop is not displayed
[12:24] <NickPresta> !ask | rollergrrl
[12:25] <ubotu> rollergrrl: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:25] <persen> so i miss start button etc..
[12:25] <waylandbill> persen: /etc/modprobe.d/  is what you want. It's a directory rather than a single convoluted file.
[12:25] <elite101> waylandbill, thats not there website
[12:25] <waylandbill> elite101: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org is the site for that distro.
[12:25] <persen> waylandbill, what will i do with that folder?
[12:26] <elite101> ohh lol damn
[12:26] <elite101> i put dam
[12:26] <vzduch> o0
[12:26] <elite101> thank
[12:26] <elite101> you
[12:26] <rollergrrl> hello :)
[12:27] <waylandbill> persen: you asked about modprobe.conf earlier. It's now several files in a subdirectory with the same format as a single conf file.
[12:27] <persen> waylandbill, do you know what file the snd device is configured in?
[12:28] <rollergrrl> for some reason I can not get my sound to work??
[12:28] <rollergrrl> any suggestions
[12:28] <waylandbill> sorry no
[12:28] <vzduch> rollergrrl: mixer settings (in KMix _and_ alsamixer)
[12:28] <Dragnslcr> rollergrrl- check the mixer settings, make sure the output channel isn't muted
[12:29] <Dragnslcr> I still can't figure out why the digital output channels in alsamixer are muted by default
[12:29] <rollergrrl> lol how do i get to that ?
[12:30] <Dragnslcr> KMenu -> Multimedia
[12:30] <elite101> wow i love linux lol they can do some amasing things lmao a pendrive at wal-mart is like 10$ for 128mb usb and they are sitting by the casher like  no one cares about em
[12:30] <Dragnslcr> KMix is in there. There's no GUI for alsamixer installed by default, but you can install it through Adept or just use the shell version
[12:30] <vzduch> rollergrrl: you should have a loudspeaker icon in the system tray -> click on it and choose 'Mixer'
[12:30] <rollergrrl> i mean I do not see a mute setting on it
[12:30] <persen> elite101, Should the cashiers care that linux is amazing while theyre selling 128 mb flash drives for 10$?
[12:31] <Dragnslcr> elite101- that's because nobody cares about them
[12:31] <Dragnslcr> rollergrrl- the mute control is the small light at the top of each slider (for KMix)
[12:32] <elite101> lol
[12:32] <elite101> just saying linux is cool. and that pendrives are so cheap
[12:32] <elite101> lol
[12:34] <rollergrrl> i have no Kmenu?
[12:34] <Dragnslcr> Do you have a taskbar?
[12:35] <rollergrrl> i do have a taskbar
[12:35] <ERIK_LIMA> !libdvdcss2
[12:35] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:35] <Dragnslcr> Right Click -> Add Applet
[12:35] <Dragnslcr> Then select K Menu
[12:35] <Dragnslcr> Dunno how/why you removed it in the first place
[12:38] <ERIK_LIMA> Guys!! Help! I need the right repository to install libdvdcss2!!
[12:40] <alynx> ERIK_LIMA: Hope this helps mate http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[12:41] <mm__202> Could someone help me out?  I [accidently]  deleted my /etc/init.d/mysql file and now apt-get install mysql-server fails everytime.  Could someone send me the file or tell me where I can get it?
[12:41] <elite101> how big is dsl?
[12:42] <mm__202> I've tried removing it, purging it, forcing it, everything.
[12:42] <ERIK_LIMA> alynx: I tried to add Seveas Packages on my sources.list, but didn't work :'(
[12:43] <ubuntu> allo
[12:43] <mm__202> anyone?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> ERIK_LIMA, pls explain 'didn't work'
[12:47] <ERIK_LIMA> BluesKaj: Because I obtain errors about the public key.
[12:47] <alynx> ERIK_LIMA: I tried to follow the guide from the link i gave you , works here
[12:47] <rollergrrl> I can only find k menu in manager package
[12:47] <ERIK_LIMA> But nevermind! :) I added the Medibuntu repository and installed the libdvdcss2 :D
[12:47] <alynx> ERIK_LIMA: ah ok , nice
[12:48] <BluesKaj> ERIK_LIMA, don't worry about the public key , delete the seveas repos , they aren't working properly , replace them with the medibuntu repos
[12:48] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[12:48] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:49] <BluesKaj> ok, good
[12:49] <ERIK_LIMA> alynx: Let me explain. Todya I installed clamav. After I turn off my computer, go out home and come back to PC again...
[12:49] <ERIK_LIMA> My Ubuntu didn't boot! :( So I'm installing all the missed libs and programs I had again
[12:50] <BluesKaj> do you have a windows partition?
[12:50] <ERIK_LIMA> No.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> otherwise why use clamav
[12:50] <BluesKaj> you don't need it
[12:50] <ERIK_LIMA> Because of the viruses.
[12:51] <ProJ3ct> what is the french chanel pls
[12:51] <ERIK_LIMA> Linux is secure, of course, but it don't means it is free of viruses.
[12:52] <ERIK_LIMA> Nevermind about clamav. My next step is to install the drivers for my webcam
[12:53] <ERIK_LIMA> It's compatible with Microdia driver. I found a good explanation, in portuguese, to install it
[12:54] <rollergrrl> dragnslcr I found k menu in manager package what do I insall ?
[12:54] <Dragnslcr> !fr | ProJ3ct
[12:54] <ubotu> ProJ3ct: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:54] <ProJ3ct> Tks ubotu
[12:54] <Dragnslcr> rollergrrl- you shouldn't need to install KMenu from Adept
[12:55] <rollergrrl> i don't have it then
[12:55] <Dragnslcr> I'm not even sure if it's a package at all or if it's just part of the KDE core
[12:55] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, there is no KMenu package
[12:56] <rollergrrl> k thank you
[12:57] <Dragnslcr> If it isn't at the left end of your taskbar, you must have moved it or removed it yourself
[01:04] <elite101> hey what is the command line for java6?
[01:04] <NickPresta> elite101, to install it?
[01:04] <elite101> yeah
[01:04] <elite101> no download
[01:04] <elite101> sorry
[01:04] <NickPresta> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-* to install it.
[01:04] <elite101> then to download?
[01:05] <NickPresta> -d option
[01:05] <elite101> i dont get it?
[01:05] <elite101> -d option
[01:05] <vzduch> huh?
[01:06] <vzduch> the above apt-get command will download it automatically
[01:06] <persen> bye bye linux
[01:06] <persen> i cant take it anymore
[01:07] <NickPresta> lol
[01:07] <elite101> it sayed cant find any packets
[01:07] <elite101> for java6 -jre
[01:07] <vzduch> sun-java6-jre
[01:07] <elite101> yes i enabled multi universe and universe packets
[01:07] <elite101> yeah
[01:08] <vzduch> pastebin please
[01:08] <elite101> i spelt it correct in the konsole just wanted to save time typing
[01:08] <elite101> lol
[01:08] <vzduch> did an apt-get update beforehand?
[01:08] <ERIK_LIMA> So, guys. Here's how I installed the Microdria driver for my webcam on Ubuntu
[01:09] <elite101> no
[01:09] <elite101> how do u do that lol
[01:09] <ERIK_LIMA> I use the Debian packages
[01:09] <elite101> i did an update manually by adept when enabled the packets and hitting apply changes
[01:09] <ERIK_LIMA> First, you need to run a command on Terminal to see if your webcam is compatible with Linux
[01:09] <elite101> lol i didnt know there was an update command line
[01:10] <NickPresta> elite101, apt-get help
[01:10] <ERIK_LIMA> So, on Terminal enter "lsusb"
[01:10] <elite101> k
[01:11] <NickPresta> ERIK_LIMA, perhaps these instructions would be best on Pastebin or on Ubuntu forums
[01:11] <ERIK_LIMA> Must return something like "Microdia weex Mini WebCam" or equivalent
[01:11] <ERIK_LIMA> Calm down. I'm just retribuying your help :D
[01:12] <ERIK_LIMA> It is my "Thank You" to everyone. ^^
[01:12] <elite101> how do i enter an option on terminal?? when it says -u how do i type that in the command line to select that option
[01:13] <ERIK_LIMA> So I prefer to tell the ones who have an webcam with Microdia, how to install it
[01:13] <NickPresta> ERIK_LIMA, that's great and I appreciate your efforts but it will be difficult to share your findings when they're split over multiple lines of an IRC chat.
[01:13] <elite101> thats what forums are for?
[01:13] <ERIK_LIMA> OK. So, you can find the drivers dor other distros from this site:
[01:14] <elite101> if u post it here it will only be for like 2 sec's half of these ppl arent even on irc rite now its minimized????!?!?!?
[01:14] <ERIK_LIMA>       http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html
[01:14] <ERIK_LIMA> Thankd and goodbye
[01:14] <elite101> lol pointless?
[01:16] <caboose_1980> Hello.
[01:16] <vzduch> !hi | caboose_1980
[01:16] <ubotu> caboose_1980: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:16] <NickPresta> hi
[01:16] <elite101> okay i got java to install how do i get flashplayer9 working?
[01:16] <vzduch> same way
[01:16] <elite101> okay lol
[01:17] <vzduch> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:17] <elite101> i tried searching for it in adept and coulfnt find it
[01:17] <elite101> thanks
[01:17] <elite101> and what was the line for the update?
[01:18] <elite101> apt-get update
[01:18] <elite101> ?
[01:18] <vzduch> but, relating to Java..  @ all: my Java (sun-java6-jre) seems not to work in Konqueror, I keep getting errors on Java-heavy webpages (e.g. map24.com)
[01:18] <vzduch> elite101: it's enough if you do that once a day
[01:19] <elite101> i never done that thou
[01:19] <BluesKaj> elite101, if you didn't find it in adept then apt won't either , you need to add repositories
[01:19] <vzduch> the packages don't change that fast
[01:19] <alynx> i have troubles with konqueror on youtube , but firefox works like a charm
[01:19] <vzduch> YouTube works fine w/ Konq here
[01:19] <elite101> yeah? lol thats why i wanted flash i am using konqueror?
[01:19] <elite101> for youtube videos to work
[01:19] <elite101> and some webpages
[01:19] <malik__> i have installed kubuntu from a DVD . why dont i see Applications Menu there ??
[01:20] <gys> ??
[01:20] <runlevelten> Yep, I use youtube fine in konqy too.
[01:20] <vzduch> malik__: because KDE doesn't have an 'Applications' menu
[01:20] <elite101> man i wish i had a DVD drive :(
[01:20] <elite101> yeah really?
[01:20] <vzduch> it's all categorized in the K menu
[01:20] <malik__> ok
[01:20] <runlevelten> K Menu ftw.
[01:20] <elite101> they are in groups/internet/Multimedia
[01:21] <elite101> etc
[01:21] <malik__> i have installed vmware server from synaptec manager, where should i look for its startup icon?
[01:21] <runlevelten> Old friend. You know where stuff is in the K menu, because it says so on it.
[01:21] <vzduch> runlevelten: yep
[01:22] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic | elite101
[01:22] <ubotu> elite101: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:22] <elite101> cant u just upgrade your distro to a higher version like from 6.10 to 7.04?
[01:22] <alynx> yes
[01:23] <BluesKaj> nope
[01:23] <runlevelten> Yes.
[01:23] <elite101> really?
[01:23] <elite101> so i dont need to order the cd??
[01:23] <elite101> or well download the ISO
[01:23] <BluesKaj> well, if yer thinking you can include more apps by upgrading your distro
[01:24] <elite101> no so its just as if i installed it from the cd 7.04 but really i upgraded from 6.10
[01:24] <elite101> i dont have a dvd drive :(
[01:24] <alynx> elite101: I'll try and find the link that explains how for you.
[01:25] <elite101> okay but i really have 6.06.1 LTS KDE
[01:25] <elite101> its to old i know
[01:25] <vzduch> I keep hearing that Gutsy will be an LTS version.. so, after the experience w/ Dapper, it's likely to become 7.12 instead of 7.10 *gg*
[01:25] <malik__> how do i properly install the vmware server in kubuntu??
[01:25] <Hirvinen> vzduch: It won't. Gutsy+1 will be.
[01:25] <vzduch> Hirvinen: ah
[01:25] <NickPresta> vzduch, I just saw Mark post saying that it will be 8.04 that will be a LTS
[01:25] <vzduch> then that'll gonna be rather 8.06 ;)
[01:26] <elite101> The Flash plugin is NOT installed. why does it say that in terminal after i did sudo apt get- flash........
[01:26] <BluesKaj> malik__, there's a tutorial at the vmware server site
[01:27] <malik__> i just installed the vmware server from synaptec package manager, got the vmware server console in the system menu, but it does not start when i click on it
[01:27] <BluesKaj> elite101, i guess some ppl just don't don't read advice that's directed to them
[01:27] <elite101> what/
[01:27] <elite101> ?*
[01:27] <alynx> elite101: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=397221&highlight=dist+upgrade read post #6 in the treah
[01:27] <acidBURN> is kde 4 going to be in the next version of kubuntu 7.10?
[01:28] <BluesKaj> elite101, if you didn't find it in adept then apt won't either , you need to add repositories
[01:28] <Hirvinen> acidBURN: No.
[01:28] <alynx> **thread and change the names
[01:28] <elite101> i did
[01:28] <acidBURN> ? what not
[01:28] <elite101> what do u mean i didnt find?
[01:28] <elite101> i was going threw the programs list
[01:28] <Hirvinen> acidBURN: It won't be released nearly in time.
[01:28] <acidBURN> dam
[01:28] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic | elite101
[01:28] <ubotu> elite101: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:29] <acidBURN> is 7.10 going to have any cool NEW features?
[01:29] <aldcor> aldcor
[01:29] <rrbiz> acidBURN: u can install it urself though
[01:29] <vzduch> dayum.. if there's one thing I hate, it's rolling over my headphones cable w/ my chair..
[01:29] <Hirvinen> acidBURN: IIRC KDE 4 is currently set to be released roughly around the same time as 7.10. That's at least two months late.
[01:29] <rrbiz> install it all for that matter
[01:29] <acidBURN> can't wait for the unifed database setup....
[01:30] <vzduch> Hirvinen: I've heard that it won't be Kubuntu's default desktop for another 2 releases, so it will be in 8.10 at the earliest
[01:30] <vzduch> as default, that is
[01:31] <Hirvinen> acidBURN: 8.04 won't probably have it either as the default(though would be available) because they're afraid that KDE 4 won't be mature enough at that point to be in an LTS.
[01:31] <acidBURN> vzduch: your kidding right?  :(
[01:31] <Hirvinen> acidBURN: Nope. Riddell said it a while ago.
[01:31] <acidBURN> oh man
[01:31] <bsantos> hahahahuahuahuhauhauhua
[01:31] <Hirvinen> It should be available in 8.06 though.
[01:31] <bsantos> let got in home
[01:32] <vzduch> acidBURN: it'll probably made available as an update as soon as it's out & packaged, but it won't be the default desktop until at least 8.10
[01:32] <acidBURN> so, is there going to be any cool NEW items for kubuntu ?? :)
[01:32] <aldcor> aldcor
[01:32] <bsantos> I'm fucked
[01:32] <vzduch> !language | bsantos
[01:32] <ubotu> bsantos: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:33] <elite101> man i still cant view youtube videos
[01:33] <vzduch> elite101: did you reload the plugins?
[01:33] <jbasilio> elite101: what's wrong?  64 bit?
[01:34] <rrbiz> my RSS's quickly go beyond 1000
[01:34] <rrbiz> too much info out there
[01:35] <elite101> no i didnt load the plugin for flash how do u do that? configure konqueror plugins
[01:35] <BluesKaj> vzduch, you can kead a horse to water .....  :)
[01:35] <BluesKaj> lead
[01:35] <vzduch> BluesKaj: huh?
[01:36] <BluesKaj> elite101, did you edite you sources.list and add the repositories
[01:36] <elite101> yeah
[01:36] <vzduch> BluesKaj: I already gave him the cmd to install the flash player
[01:37] <elite101> but it didnt install the flash plugin?
[01:37] <BluesKaj> yeah, but he didn't have it in the repos
[01:37] <vzduch> and I assume he already did that
[01:37] <elite101> it downloaded but didnt install
[01:37] <elite101> at the very last line :
[01:37] <vzduch> huh?
[01:37] <elite101> :(
[01:37] <abijah> does anyone knwo how to connect ubuntu to exchange server on AD domain?
[01:37] <elite101> it downloaded the packets
[01:37] <elite101> but all of asudden at the end it sayed Flashplayer plugin NOT installed.
[01:38] <vzduch> abijah: there is a (afaik for-pay) plugin for Evolution to do that
[01:38] <abijah> what is required? do i have to install LDAP
[01:38] <elite101> i dont know why the file was a trz. file or something? im on KDE dapper it should be debian?
[01:39] <elite101> maybe thats why because on the adobe web page there is no debian file to download?
[01:39] <vzduch> elite101: can you paste the complete output of the flashplugin installation please?
[01:39] <elite101> um i kinda closed the terminal after
[01:39] <elite101> i can re download it again
[01:39] <vzduch> then re-run the cmd
[01:39] <BluesKaj> elite101, use adept to install the flashplayer-nonfree
[01:40] <vzduch> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:40] <elite101> i know that
[01:40] <BluesKaj> and flashplugin-nonfree
[01:42] <elite101> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version. thats what it said why isnt youtube working then??? even thou it said the plugin did not install??
[01:42] <aldcor> aldcor
[01:42] <abijah> we are rebelling againt microsoft and are switching to Linux but We have a problem with winxp and ubuntu desktops accessing an exchange email server
[01:42] <elite101> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[01:42] <aldcor> aldcor
[01:42] <elite101> it downloaded but didnt upgrade? o.0
[01:43] <vzduch> !exchange
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exchange - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <elite101> how do i upgrade it then?
[01:43] <elite101> java worked fine :)
[01:43] <elite101> just not flash? :(
[01:44] <renato> try with automatix elite101
[01:44] <elite101> i will install firefox maybe thats the prob? someone upthere sayed youtube doesnt work good on here anyways?
[01:44] <vzduch> Automatix?  no way..
[01:44] <elite101> im new to  kubuntu so if u say a program i prob wont know it
[01:44] <aldcor> aldcor
[01:44] <renato> youtube works wonders
[01:45] <vzduch> aldcor: stop it.
[01:45] <renato> www.getautomatix.com
[01:45] <alynx> elite101: try sudo update-alternatives --config javac
[01:45] <vzduch> renato: Automatix can screw your system up badly - don't recommend it.
[01:45] <alynx> java not javac
[01:47] <BluesKaj> !automatix
[01:47] <renato> didn't know vzduch, it has worked for me
[01:47] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:47] <solarwaver> is anyone here knows why ubuntu is not playnig divx?
[01:47] <solarwaver> is anyone here knows why ubuntu is not playnig divx?
[01:47] <vzduch> !codecs | solarwaver
[01:47] <ubotu> solarwaver: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:50] <elite101> im installing firefox maybe thats what my problem was, was just konqueror
[01:50] <renato> not really, youtube works with konqueror for me
[01:50] <vzduch> for me too
[01:50] <renato> it's just the plugin
[01:50] <vzduch> otoh, I don't have Dapper, I have Feisty
[01:51] <renato> me too
[01:51] <men007> oi
[01:51] <men007> q passa
[01:51] <BluesKaj> elite101, it should  run on konqueror too , but after installing an app sometimes you have to relogin or reboot
[01:51] <vzduch> !it | men007
[01:51] <ubotu> men007: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:52] <renato> with browsers  you just have  to restart the program itself
[01:52] <men007> ok baby
[01:53] <BluesKaj> renato, not alaways
[01:53] <men007> i want this program pls
[01:54] <solarwaver> vzduch thanx
[01:54] <BluesKaj> anyway BBL ...tvtime with wifey for a while
[01:54] <elite101> BluesKaj, yeah because when i updated my system kopete and kbit where still old looking once i restarted it was updated
[01:55] <elite101> well brb going to go reboot
[01:55] <malik__> how o mount an ntfs partition in ubuntu ??
[01:56] <powerpuffgirl> malik__: depends
[01:56] <renato> my desktop !ntsf
[01:56] <renato> !ntsf
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntsf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <renato> !partitions
[01:56] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:56] <powerpuffgirl> malik__: you can use linux ntfs kernel module to drive nt file systems read only
[01:57] <powerpuffgirl> OR
[01:57] <powerpuffgirl> malik__: you can use ntfs-3g or the like to have RW access
[01:57] <powerpuffgirl> malik__: google for ntfs-3g ubuntu etc.
[01:57] <malik__> ok thanks i found a google pointer to a resource
[01:57] <powerpuffgirl> welcome
[01:58] <vzduch> !ntfs | malik__
[01:58] <ubotu> malik__: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:58] <x_link> Hi
[01:58] <powerpuffgirl> x_link: traitor!
[01:58] <x_link> powerpuffgirl: ?
[01:58] <powerpuffgirl> stoned.
[01:58] <x_link> powerpuffgirl: hehe
[01:59] <powerpuffgirl> sup brother
[01:59] <x_link> powerpuffgirl: Not much
[01:59] <x_link> I need some help
[01:59] <powerpuffgirl> ask
[01:59] <powerpuffgirl> and ye shall receive
[01:59] <x_link> I just did sudo aptitude install automake1.9
[01:59] <x_link> But when I do automake --version it still says 1.10
[01:59] <powerpuffgirl> when did you start using kubuntu x_link ?
[02:00] <vzduch> x_link: did you sudo aptitude remove automake1.10 (if there is a pkg w/ that name)?
[02:00] <powerpuffgirl> x_link: you are on feisty?
[02:00] <x_link> 7.04
[02:00] <x_link> So I must do sudo aptitude purge automake first?
[02:00] <powerpuffgirl> !info automake1.10
[02:00] <ubotu> Package automake1.10 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:01] <x_link> sedde@sedde:~$ automake --version
[02:01] <x_link> automake (GNU automake) 1.10
[02:01] <powerpuffgirl> $>automake --version
[02:01] <powerpuffgirl> automake (GNU automake) 1.9.6
[02:02] <vzduch> I guess 'automake1.10' == 'automake'
[02:03] <vzduch> aptitude lists a void pkg named automake1.10
[02:03] <x_link> powerpuffgirl: Okej
[02:03] <renato> what the hell is automake?
[02:03] <powerpuffgirl>   Suggests: automake1.10-doc
[02:03] <powerpuffgirl> yup
[02:03] <powerpuffgirl> renato: it generates makefiles ?
[02:04] <renato> compiler?
[02:04] <powerpuffgirl> no
[02:04] <powerpuffgirl> it generates files which tell the compiler what to do
[02:04] <Biovore> its a tool to setup your source for a build
[02:04] <renato> ooooh
[02:04] <renato> iteresting
[02:04] <renato> wery wery intewesting
[02:05] <powerpuffgirl> renato: install automake and read the manpage
[02:05] <elite101> nope still doesnt let me watching youtube videos?
[02:05] <renato> don't really need it at the moment, just curious, but thanks
[02:06] <powerpuffgirl> so your curiosity is satisfied?
[02:06] <renato> indeed
[02:06] <powerpuffgirl> well ignorance can be bliss as well
[02:07] <vzduch> btw, guys, if you're looking for a really good-looking FREE truetype font, try Linux Libertine  http://linuxlibertine.sourceforge.net/
[02:07] <powerpuffgirl> nothing beats ttf-dejavu
[02:07] <powerpuffgirl> in particular, DejaVuSerifCondensed.ttf
[02:08] <powerpuffgirl> best font ever!
[02:08] <vzduch> DejaVu Sans is quite nice, but I don't really like the DejaVu Serif fonts
[02:08] <lewix> hi
[02:08] <lewix> im tryin to find out the driver of wifi card
[02:08] <lewix> of my*
[02:08] <powerpuffgirl> do lspci and tell us which wireless card it is
[02:09] <elite101> weird flash plugin in nonfree is installed and java is too but i cant view youtube videos on firefox or konqueror?
[02:09] <lewix> I can have internet with my wireless card but I dont know the driver
[02:09] <lewix> Atheros AR5005GS
[02:09] <elite101> in adept*
[02:09] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: go to about:plugins in firefox and check it again
[02:09] <vzduch> lewix: well, if it works, why bother?
[02:09] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: or if you are on konqi, then I dunno
[02:09] <lewix> vzduch, because I need it for something else
[02:09] <elite101> okay im on firefox
[02:10] <Fr0de> lewix: probably madwifi driver set
[02:10] <elite101> powerpuffgirls,nice nic name lol
[02:10] <lewix> I don't remenber if I installed it myseld or it has been installed automatically
[02:10] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: why not just get flashplayer from adobe and unpack the xpm/so file libs to ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[02:10] <lewix> Fr0de, how can I be sure
[02:10] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: one girl
[02:10] <elite101> well i was on konqueror before so i didnt know at the time plus i am just getting into kubuntu/linux/distros
[02:11] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: just use flash from adobe website
[02:11] <solarwaver> kserei kaneis pos pernas ton codec gia divx?
[02:11] <elite101> well i have it now installed
[02:11] <Fr0de> lewix: if you look at the output of ifconfig, if there's a ath0, then it's madwifi
[02:11] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: download the tar.gz file, and then tar zxvf blahblahfilename.tar.gz and then cd to unpacked directory and run the installer or cp/mv the files there to ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[02:11] <vzduch> elite101: in Konq  Tools | Configure Konqueror | under 'Netscape plugins' you will find the tab 'Plugins' that lists the plugins currently installed.. in my case the Flash player is /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[02:12] <renato> I know noone's asking me for my opinion, but I think a linux savvy woman is damn sexy!
[02:12] <powerpuffgirl> vzduch: packaged flashplayer or one from adobe?
[02:12] <vzduch> powerpuffgirl: packaged
[02:12] <powerpuffgirl> v9?
[02:12] <vzduch> I guess so
[02:12] <powerpuffgirl> hmm
[02:12] <lewix> Fr0de, thanks
[02:12] <NickPresta> renato, I'm trying to get my girlfriend to convert ;) she already swoons at the sight of Beryl/Compiz
[02:12] <powerpuffgirl> can't be
[02:12] <elite101> go to about:plugins in firefox and check it again............. how do i do that
[02:12] <lewix> so its madwifi
[02:12] <renato> i think there's even a .deb file
[02:12] <elite101> go to about???
[02:12] <elite101> there is no tab
[02:13] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: instead of going to www.google.com type in about:plugins
[02:13] <elite101> dont need that
[02:13] <mtv> ubuntu is telling me I need to sudo dpkg configure -a, and it resumes a vmware setup.  This issue is that vmware never completes the setup.  And I cannot get into synaptic because of this.  What should I do?
[02:13] <elite101> already have it installed flashplayer9
[02:13] <renato> that one you just right click, install package and that's that
[02:13] <elite101> just wont load youtube
[02:13] <renato> installed it, or just downloaded it somewhere?
[02:13] <elite101> me?
[02:14] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: start firefox from console, and then visit youtube
[02:14] <vzduch> !aptfix | mtv
[02:14] <ubotu> mtv: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:14] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: look in the console output for anything related to flash and see what it says
[02:14] <elite101> how do i open it up just console:firefox?
[02:14] <powerpuffgirl> no man
[02:14] <powerpuffgirl> go into konsole or terminal or soemthing and type firefox
[02:14] <renato> or go: sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[02:14] <vzduch> elite101: open a terminal and enter 'firefox' there
[02:14] <elite101> okay thats what i sayed?
[02:15] <chris_> f
[02:15] <powerpuffgirl> or apt-get -f install :)
[02:15] <elite101> they are already installed?
[02:15] <renato> have you tried talking to it?
[02:15] <elite101> its just youtube wont work
[02:15] <powerpuffgirl> does google video work?
[02:15] <renato> maybe it just needs a little love and understanding
[02:15] <powerpuffgirl> non youtube flash works?
[02:15] <powerpuffgirl> what about joecartoon.com
[02:15] <powerpuffgirl> does that work?
[02:16] <elite101> youtube doesnt work still says i need a upgraded flashplayer or javascript is not enabled even thou i have eveything they ask?
[02:16] <mtv> vzduch: is there anything else i could do.  dpkg configure -a just sits with vmware.  is there a way i could bypass vmware when in dpkg configure -a?
[02:16] <elite101> joecartoon.com no spyware?
[02:16] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: in about:plugins tell me what you see.  flash 7 or flash 9?
[02:17] <tk> anyone good with bluetooth setup under Kubuntu? I have to keep running hidd --search and reconnecting my devices whenever I leave the PC long enough for the screensaver to kick in...
[02:17] <vzduch> mtv: you could uninstall vmware
[02:17] <elite101> in about?
[02:17] <elite101> okay nvm
[02:17] <elite101> i know 1 sec
[02:17] <mtv> vzduch: i did a complete removal, but the issue remains
[02:17] <renato> spyware, linux, really?
[02:17] <vzduch> mtv: that's not possible if vmware isn't there anymore
[02:18] <mtv> vzduch: well then synaptic did not do what it was suppose to do.
[02:18] <tk> mtv: if you did a removal, maybe you can do apt-get clean to remove the local cache of hte package files?
[02:18] <elite101> okay i went to joecartoon it sayed plugin needs to be installed on a little bar that poped up so i clicked install and yeah gotta wait to see if it works
[02:18] <renato> or better yet: sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:18] <tk> that too :)
[02:19] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: flash isn't installed correctly
[02:19] <tk> no help on the bluetooth stuff though eh? hidd --search is really annoying :(
[02:19] <mtv> tk: i will take a look into that.  renato i will try that as well
[02:19] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: remove all flash player packages
[02:19] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: and install from flash from adobe's website
[02:19] <elite101> okay
[02:19] <elite101> how do i do that in adept?
[02:19] <renato> not in adept, elite
[02:19] <elite101> why not?
[02:19] <powerpuffgirl>  elite101 in command line
[02:20] <elite101> okay whats the command
[02:20] <elite101> sudo apt uninstall
[02:20] <elite101> ?
[02:20] <vzduch> *apt-get
[02:20] <renato> no sudo apt-get remove
[02:20] <ccollander> sudo apt-get remove ___
[02:20] <elite101> remove....?
[02:20] <renato> and the name of the package you have installed
[02:20] <renato> literally
[02:20] <vzduch> better.. sudo apt-get remove --purge $pkgname
[02:20] <ccollander> sudo apt-get remove beryl  #if you want to remove beryl, for example
[02:20] <elite101> i dont memorize these's command lines
[02:20] <powerpuffgirl> actually
[02:20] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: hold on
[02:21] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: which flash package did you install?
[02:21] <renato> you don't have to, it just happens over time
[02:21] <elite101> i dont wanna remove something i need.
[02:21] <elite101> flashplugin9
[02:21] <elite101> non free
[02:21] <powerpuffgirl> hmm that should work
[02:21] <zombielion> i am using kubuntu 7.04 i just installed my ddvd/cd burner and i already had a cd burner installed. i also removed a dvd player well now it isnt seeing the cd burner or the dvd cd burner is there like an add hardware or somethig i am still new to kubuntu
[02:21] <ccollander> sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[02:21] <aldcor> aldcor
[02:21] <renato> then: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin9
[02:21] <renato> you have to close adept, if it's still running though
[02:22] <elite101> thanx ccollander.
[02:22] <powerpuffgirl> its actually flashplayer-nonfree
[02:22] <powerpuffgirl> yeh
[02:22] <powerpuffgirl> zombielion: when you installed it, did you make sure that you did it right?
[02:22] <vzduch> powerpuffgirl: here it was flashplugin-nonfree
[02:22] <elite101> so im removing the wrong one?!?!?!?! o.0
[02:22] <ccollander> i would highly recommend reading up on apt-get and apt-cache
[02:23] <renato> now, elite101, this is the site where you download the tar: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW
[02:23] <powerpuffgirl> zombielion: if they are sata no worries, if you installed two IDE optical devices, you need to set the jumpers to either slave/master or connect them to different IDE controllers
[02:23] <powerpuffgirl> zombielion: or you can use cable select on the same controller
[02:23] <elite101> dont need it plus i thought KDE/dapper use's debian???
[02:23] <powerpuffgirl> zombielion: does your bios see the optical devices?
[02:23] <ccollander> okay, does anybody know if sata 3g works on ubuntu?
[02:24] <renato> did you get it?
[02:24] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: no. ubuntu uses the debian package management system only.  APT.  Debian itself has different packages
[02:24] <zombielion> wow i guess i will just start from the beging and check thanx
[02:24] <renato> download the tarball, elite101
[02:24] <renato> here: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW
[02:25] <elite101> tarball?
[02:25] <renato> the file with tar.gz
[02:25] <powerpuffgirl> a tarball is a term used for a compressed tar file
[02:25] <ccollander> tarball is a source code file you compile into a runnable program
[02:25] <elite101> what is that for? shockwave?!?!? im getting flashplayer rite now but i will prob need that next lol
[02:25] <powerpuffgirl> tgz or tar.bz2 or tar.gz etc.
[02:25] <powerpuffgirl> its a ball of tar
[02:25] <powerpuffgirl> basically
[02:25] <ccollander> lol
[02:25] <powerpuffgirl> ;D
[02:26] <powerpuffgirl> ccollander: not always a source package
[02:26] <ccollander> so , out of curiousity, what filesystems do ya'll use?
[02:26] <powerpuffgirl> ext3 > *
[02:26] <ccollander> pwerpuffgirl: yeah, i realized that after I said it
[02:26] <elite101> yeah it works
[02:26] <renato> shockwave was the old name
[02:26] <elite101> lol thanks
[02:26] <elite101> yeah i know
[02:26] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: what works?
[02:26] <ccollander> I have my / as reiserfs but my /home as XFS
[02:26] <elite101> flash
[02:26] <powerpuffgirl> flash working now on youtube?
[02:27] <elite101> no but on joecartoon
[02:27] <elite101> its installed properly thou
[02:27] <powerpuffgirl> ok, try youtube?
[02:29] <powerpuffgirl> tuberostomocologically grand.
[02:29] <ccollander> lol, wtf?
[02:30] <powerpuffgirl> =)
[02:30] <neusonce> god i hope java is installing this time
[02:30] <solarwaver> is anyone knows XVID MPEG-4 decoder?
[02:30] <elite101> hurray youtube works lol
[02:30] <ccollander> gratz!
[02:30] <powerpuffgirl> solarwaver: please ask your real question
[02:30] <powerpuffgirl> elite101: congrats
[02:30] <Biovore> solarwaver: it works on everything..
[02:31] <renato> hey, does anyone know how on earth you configure the home directory for java or something like that?
[02:31] <vzduch> renato: huh?
[02:31] <renato> tomcat won't install until I do that
[02:31] <ccollander> renato: what do you mean?
[02:31] <Biovore> I think is an enviroment variable called JAVAPATH?
[02:31] <solarwaver> where i find XVID MPEG-4 decoder?
[02:31] <renato> don't worry, I thought the same: what the fuck?
[02:31] <Biovore> solarwaver: xine, mplayer do it
[02:31] <powerpuffgirl> !w32codecs
[02:31] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[02:32] <renato> exactly Biovore
[02:32] <Biovore> XVID complete opensource..
[02:32] <solarwaver> powerpuffgirl u use linux?
[02:32] <powerpuffgirl> w32codecs+mplayer should take care of it all
[02:32] <powerpuffgirl> solarwaver: no
[02:32] <powerpuffgirl> solarwaver: I hate linux and unix
[02:32] <Biovore> http://www.xvid.org/
[02:32] <powerpuffgirl> I use windows 3.1
[02:32] <renato> ha ha ha
[02:32] <solarwaver> lol
[02:32] <powerpuffgirl> actually windows 3.11 for workgroups
[02:32] <Biovore> you should use the win3.1 program manager under win on linux :-P
[02:33] <solarwaver> i am impresed with u? ru a girl 4 resl?
[02:33] <renato> so, anyone the JAVA_PATH thingy?
[02:33] <powerpuffgirl> no man
[02:33] <powerpuffgirl> its just a friggin nickname
[02:33] <solarwaver> ok
[02:33] <Biovore> renato: export JAVAPATH="/a/path/to/something/"
[02:33] <stoned> happy?
[02:34] <Biovore> renato: stuff it in you .bashrc file in your home directory
[02:34] <renato> should I type that on a terminal?
[02:34] <renato> oh
[02:34] <renato> ok
[02:34] <Biovore> you can.. but it will not be perminate
[02:34] <stoned> permanent
[02:34] <Biovore> tnx
[02:34] <stoned> sure
[02:34] <Biovore> :-)
[02:34] <stoned> am I obligated to smile back?
[02:34] <vzduch> solarwaver: Welcome to IRC, where men are men, women are men, and children are a bunch of FBI agents.
[02:34] <neusonce> you guys are 1337
[02:34] <Biovore> no
[02:35] <stoned> Biovore: just messing. :)
[02:35] <renato> ...and noone's naked
[02:35] <Biovore> well if 1+3+3=7.. then yes..
[02:35] <renato> ...exept for the agents of course
[02:35] <stoned> we are far from elite
[02:35] <underdog5004> ha ha
[02:35] <stoned> #debian is elite
[02:35] <stoned> #gentoo is elite
[02:36] <stoned> ubuntu not so much
[02:36] <stoned> give it a few more years
[02:36] <renato> we're mainstream
[02:36] <stoned> all in good time my man, all in good time
[02:36] <Biovore> well the people in the know hide and only answer questions if a real question is asked..
[02:36] <neusonce> is ther anything that ubuntu cant be told to do that redhat cant?
[02:36] <neusonce> i think not
[02:36] <vzduch> neusonce: ?
[02:36] <stoned> thats not the pint
[02:37] <renato> until we stop right clicking on things to "edit as root" and "install package" we won't be elite
[02:37] <solarwaver> ok guys tell me how i put tha f..... xvid mpeg4 decoder?
[02:37] <Biovore> there all the same thing..  just a diffenence on whats on there by default and the configuration..
[02:37] <stoned> debian is strong since 1993
[02:37] <Biovore> solarwaver: add multiverse repo
[02:37] <stoned> its been there and as such its users from long ago are elite in the ways
[02:37] <Biovore> !multiverse
[02:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:37] <Biovore> and update your repos
[02:37] <Biovore> then install mplayer
[02:37] <ERIK_LIMA> !microdia
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microdia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <stoned> ubuntu is fairly new, and the people who move to ubuntu in lots are the windows users not very familiar with linux
[02:37] <aldcor> aldcor
[02:37] <neusonce> truthfully im a linux baby
[02:37] <stoned> so this is not elite as other distros
[02:37] <stoned> yet.
[02:38] <neusonce> i cant even istall java , anyway i gtg
[02:38] <stoned> give ubuntu 15+ years and see where it goes
[02:38] <Biovore> apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[02:38] <Biovore> bam.. java is installed..
[02:38] <renato> it'll go propietary
[02:38] <renato> :-P
[02:38] <stoned> it can't
[02:38] <stoned> it is under gnu gpl since it uses the linux kernel
[02:38] <renato> I'm joking
[02:38] <Biovore> you all can try just typing ubuntu install <thing>
[02:39] <Biovore> should get about 1000 hits
[02:39] <stoned> renato: i have no sense of humor
[02:39] <stoned> despite my constant mental state
[02:39] <renato> sad
[02:39] <stoned> see, that was a joke.
[02:40] <renato> yeah, well, you have to tell 9 bad, to get the 10th right
[02:41] <stoned> I got a bad throat
[02:41] <stoned> sore and all
[02:41] <stoned> I think I might be coming down with strepthroat
[02:41] <stoned> apt-get install sore-throat-remedy
[02:41] <stoned> =/
[02:42] <renato> sudo apt-get install stoned --fix-missing
[02:42] <stoned> umm what
[02:42] <Biovore> will probably have to download alot for that one :-P
[02:42] <mcrandello> 1 shot each lemon juice and honey, 2 shots whisky and a sprinkle of cinammon. Heat for 45 seconds and then slug down as soon as it's cool enough to drink
[02:42] <NickPresta> stoned, `cd hospital && fix_bs_and_del` ;)
[02:42] <mcrandello> will fix any throat problem
[02:42] <raptorquest> I am new to Kubuntu/Ubuntu so... I am running Kubuntu 6.10 and I have a disk for Ubuntu 7.04.  Can I update Kubuntu with the Ubuntu 7.04 disk or do I need to upgrade from a Ubuntu source?
[02:43] <aldcor> aldcor
[02:43] <stoned> if I drink alcohol I will go to hell
[02:43] <stoned> I cannot do that
[02:43] <stoned> thanks though
[02:43] <mcrandello> this is totally medicinal though
[02:43] <stoned> doesn't matter
[02:43] <mcrandello> sorry to hear about your hell problem then, it really works
[02:43] <stoned> me too
[02:43] <Biovore> raptorquest: I am not sure about the upgrade path from dapper (6.10) to 7.04 using a CD.. but I think you can do it via dist-upgrade
[02:44] <stoned> btw, 1 shot == 50ml.  isn't that a bit much lemon juice
[02:45] <stoned> are you just making things up?
[02:45] <Biovore> !dist-update
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <mcrandello> no, I usually double the recipe though
[02:45] <stoned> mcrandello: naughty
[02:45] <mcrandello> after taking, you hop in bed under covers and if you have a fever it will be gone in the morning also
[02:46] <renato> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:46] <stoned> I'm not religous though.  I toke up and I get wasted too
[02:46] <mcrandello> if it's a bad fever the hallucinations are a bonus side effect
[02:46] <stoned> see my nickname? hellooooo?
[02:46] <stoned> :)
[02:46] <mcrandello> well yeah
[02:46] <mcrandello> :)
[02:46] <raptorquest> okay.  thanks.
[02:46] <stoned> raptor is a great game
[02:47] <stoned> thank god there is a free raptor clone
[02:48] <randy> !resolution
[02:48] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:49] <raptorquest> by the way, for medical help you might try familydoctor.com
[02:49] <persen> Where does X write its log messages?
[02:49] <mcrandello> I've got a laptop and an external usb numpad. The numpad's numlock causes the laptops to engage, making the alphabet portion pretty much useless
[02:49] <Biovore> persen: /var/log/
[02:49] <mcrandello> anyone know an easy fix for that?
[02:49] <mcrandello> or a difficult one?
[02:50] <Biovore> mcrandello: tried pressing numlock again?
[02:50] <mcrandello> turns off both of them :(
[02:51] <persen> !widescreen
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widescreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <mcrandello> they seem to be coupled to one another
[02:52] <persen> hm
[02:52] <renato> what do you mean by coupled?
[02:52] <persen> Xorg.conf looks ok to me, but maybe this may scale things wrongly, (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (304, 304); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config   ??
[02:52] <mcrandello> renato: you press one and the other one goes.
[02:53] <mcrandello> I had a different numpad that didn't seem to do that but it died a few months ago
[02:54] <mcrandello> on that one you had the numpad numlock on and could still type words and things. This one you get leet-speak because the half of the keyboard doubles as a numpad
[02:54] <mcrandello> if that makes any sense
[02:55] <renato> did you have the numpad plugged in at the time of installation?
[02:55] <mcrandello> system installation? I've had kubunu on here for over a year, just bought the new numpad to replace the one that wore out
[02:55] <aldcor> aldcor
[02:59] <renato> no idea, sorry, and there doesn't seem to be a similar bug reported
[03:00] <stoned> hamena hamena hamena
[03:00] <Apollo1> Apollo1
[03:00] <ERIK_LIMA> It can't work :( My webcam can't work!
[03:00] <vzduch> wtf?
[03:00] <stoned> aldcor: why do you do that
[03:00] <stoned> vzduch:
[03:01] <ERIK_LIMA> My Microdia Triplex i-Mini PC Camera don't work
[03:01] <stoned> does it sit on the couch all day?
[03:01] <stoned> does it procrastinate doing the wash?
[03:01] <ERIK_LIMA> I tried installing spca5xx, but my webcam don't work
[03:02] <stoned> so get a new cam
[03:02] <aldcor> aldcor
[03:02] <vzduch> stoned: ?
[03:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> aldcor is still saying his own name?
[03:02] <stoned> aldcor: stop smoking crack.
[03:03] <ERIK_LIMA> stoned: It's not necessary. Other day my webcam was working fine :(
[03:03] <stoned> ERIK_LIMA: you said it doesn't work
[03:03] <ERIK_LIMA> But, today I needed to reinstall Ubuntu and I lost everything
[03:04] <ERIK_LIMA> Don't work now, I meant
[03:04] <stoned> ERIK_LIMA: you mean you can't get it to work again
[03:04] <ERIK_LIMA> Yeah... :'(
[03:04] <stoned> ERIK_LIMA: unfortunately I have never owned a cam
[03:05] <stoned> ERIK_LIMA: how did you do it last time?
[03:05] <ERIK_LIMA> I did this:
[03:05] <stoned> install the kernel module or compiled it from source, modprobe it, and you should be ok with a cam software
[03:06] <vzduch> if I ever gonna buy one, I'll take one that is known to work
[03:06] <ERIK_LIMA> First: apt-get install debhelper
[03:06] <vzduch> ERIK_LIMA: you already posted the whole story in this channel :/
[03:07] <vzduch> ERIK_LIMA: instead of in a blog post, forum post, or wiki
[03:07] <vzduch> where it would be much more helpful for other ppl
[03:07] <ERIK_LIMA> Second: download packages from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/gspca-source and http://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/spca5xx-source
[03:07] <mcrandello_> gah dropped wifi. anyway I tried all the different usb ports and a different cable, no dice
[03:07] <ERIK_LIMA> Third:
[03:07] <ERIK_LIMA> # dpkg -i gspca-source_01.00.16-1-1_all.deb
[03:07] <ERIK_LIMA> # dpkg -i spca5xx-source_20060501-2_all.deb
[03:08] <ERIK_LIMA> This worked for me one time. But, now doesn't. I don't know what's wrong...
[03:08] <stoned> probably dependency issues or something
[03:08] <stoned> don't mix packages from another distro
[03:09] <stoned> do sudo apt-get build-dep spcablahblahpackagename
[03:09] <stoned> then download the source from upstream and not from debian
[03:09] <stoned> then just comiple it
[03:09] <ERIK_LIMA> But Debian packages worked on my webcam...
[03:09] <stoned> unstable is constantly changing
[03:09] <ERIK_LIMA> I don't know why today didn't work
[03:09] <chrisq91> !wifi
[03:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:09] <mcrandello_> they may work but it's never a good idea to use them
[03:09] <stoned> what part of don't mix debian packages with ubuntu do you not understand?
[03:10] <mcrandello_> bad things(tm) could happen
[03:10] <stoned> ubuntu != debian
[03:10] <ERIK_LIMA> Yeah, you're right...
[03:10] <mcrandello_> if you can't find a native package even using checkinstall to build and install from source is better
[03:11] <madrid> #madrid
[03:12] <stoned> I love Fear Factory
[03:14] <hatter> anyone aware of an irc client that has trapsparent backgrouds like the terminal emulators ?
[03:14] <NickPresta> hatter, xchat does, IIRC
[03:15] <hatter> NickPresta, cool, thx i will check it out
[03:15] <ERIK_LIMA> So, I cannot put my webcam to work??
[03:16] <redshadowhero> Hello, all.
[03:16] <ERIK_LIMA> I was dreaming when I saw my webcam working??
[03:16] <stoned> probably
[03:16] <runmerryten> kopete does too
[03:16] <runmerryten> transparent background that is.
[03:17] <NickPresta> hatter, perhaps the transparency I was remembering isn't what you're looking for. Apparently, only the textbox/conversation area can be transparent...
[03:17] <ardchoille> brb
[03:17] <runmerryten> hello stoned. grab this
[03:18] <hatter> NickPresta, yeah, just found it,  only the middle box :(
[03:18] <JustHuman> Hi All
[03:18] <ERIK_LIMA> Now, everytime when I run Kopete and configure my webcam, I see a blue screen and I cannot configure my webcam... :(
[03:18] <ERIK_LIMA> I will continue trying... I will not sleep until it works!
[03:18] <slacker403> does a default install of kubuntu take alot of ram ?
[03:18] <slacker403> im used to my slackware nstuff
[03:19] <slacker403> but i really would like a packahe management
[03:19] <abdulla14> hi all
[03:19] <runmerryten> irssi is transparent like a terminal emulator :D
[03:19] <runmerryten> and so is erc ;)
[03:19] <abdulla14> i am new to ubuntu, what is that chat room for?? troubleshooting?
[03:19] <aldcor> aldcor
[03:19] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> abdulla14: It's the support channel
[03:23] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Does anyone else think that aldcor might be some sort of bot, or at least using one? I doubt that someone would be so bored that they'd be physically typing their own name into a channel at some random timing.
[03:23] <stoned> aldcor: cut that out
[03:23] <stoned> my throat hurts
[03:23] <stoned> damn sickness
[03:23] <redshadowhero> wait, so that aldcor guy has been doing this since yesterday?
[03:23] <stoned> i know man
[03:23] <stoned> I been wondering why
[03:24] <stoned> I saw it do that yesterday too
[03:24] <redshadowhero> thats extremely odd...
[03:24] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> redshadowhero: Yup. I think he IS a bot, or is using one.
[03:24] <redshadowhero> Hmm, is there any way we can tell?
[03:24] <redshadowhero> has anyone tried talking to him directly?
[03:24] <stoned> aldcor: stop being a tool
[03:25] <stoned> that should be direct enough eh?
[03:25] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I think he ment via DCC.
[03:27] <redshadowhero> I think so... I'm relatively new to irc, truth be told...
[03:27] <aldcor> aldcor
[03:27] <redshadowhero> speaking of irc, how does one register their nickname?
[03:27] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !register
[03:27] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:28] <redshadowhero> WhtWolfTeraDyne: thanks
[03:29] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> redshadowhero: no problem.
[03:32] <redshadowhero> Hmm, I think that I just registered, is there anything else that I need to do?
[03:33] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> redshadowhero: not that I know.
[03:34] <redshadowhero> Alright, thanks.
[03:34] <stoned> hey guys
[03:34] <redshadowhero> Yes?
[03:34] <stoned> I installed lm-sensors and configured sensors but I can't see my cpu temp
[03:36] <stoned> http://paste.debian.net/33283
[03:36] <stoned> which one is the cpu temperature?
[03:37] <redshadowhero> Well, with my rudimentary knowledge on the subject, I would say that it is either 16 or 17
[03:37] <stoned> what?
[03:37] <stoned> thats too low
[03:37] <stoned> way too low. lower than room temp
[03:37] <stoned> in C or in F
[03:38] <AscendedDaniel> stoned: probably sensor number 16 or 17
[03:38] <stoned> oh
[03:38] <stoned> ohh yeah
[03:38] <AscendedDaniel> :)
[03:38] <redshadowhero> Ha ha.
[03:38] <stoned> hehehe
[03:38] <stoned> thanks buddy
[03:38] <redshadowhero> Sorry I didn't make myself clear earlier.
[03:39] <stoned> no worries, I'm higher than a kite
[03:39] <redshadowhero> Okay...
[03:39] <stoned> that can't be right temperature
[03:39] <stoned> room temp atm is about 40C
[03:39] <stoned> no
[03:39] <stoned> I'd say the room temp is about 80C
[03:39] <redshadowhero> Hmm, well, it looks like one of your fans is going...
[03:39] <stoned> maybe 75F
[03:39] <stoned> i mean
[03:39] <stoned> no C
[03:40] <stoned> going where?
[03:40] <redshadowhero> 80?!
[03:40] <stoned> what?
[03:40] <stoned> where?
[03:40] <redshadowhero> uh... part number... 13
[03:40] <stoned> what?
[03:40] <redshadowhero> *sensor number
[03:40] <stoned> fan1:     2986 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
[03:40] <redshadowhero> Yeah...
[03:40] <Skanarchy> Hi, so I have dual monitors working with my laptop and an LCD screen. How do I get it so each monitor displays a different desktop, like desktop 1 and desktop 2. As opposed to one monitor simply extending onto another.
[03:40] <stoned> what has that got to do with 80C
[03:41] <stoned> Skanarchy: can't
[03:41] <redshadowhero> Well... 80C seems far too hot for room temp to me...
[03:41] <Skanarchy> oh?
[03:41] <stoned> not C
[03:41] <stoned> 80F
[03:41] <redshadowhero> Oh... thats better...
[03:41] <stoned> maybe 70F I can't tell its pretty cool tonight
[03:41] <Skanarchy> so extending a monitor is all you can do?
[03:41] <stoned> still my cpu is about 33C
[03:41] <stoned> thats not bad man
[03:42] <stoned> Skanarchy: yes
[03:42] <rrbiz> NFS someone familiar with it ?
[03:42] <Skanarchy> mmph, ok
[03:42] <stoned> Skanarchy: you can have two desktops on two monitors maybe with xinerama and by telling xorg.conf about two video cards and two monitors and adjust the ServerLayout section accordingly
[03:42] <redshadowhero> !NFS | rrbiz
[03:42] <ubotu> rrbiz: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:42] <stoned> Skanarchy: search google
[03:42] <Skanarchy> I have :p
[03:42] <Skanarchy> thats why I came in here
[03:43] <redshadowhero> rrbiz: is that what you are looking for?
[03:43] <stoned> people have found GOD by searching
[03:43] <stoned> im sure you can find this solution
[03:43] <Skanarchy> found a thread, *occupies self*
[03:43] <rrbiz> redshadowhero: perhaps, i'll read through that and find out, i'm just getting authentication errors, sharing from win to lin is never a prob, sharing from lin usually is
[03:44] <redshadowhero> rrbiz: hence, why I hate windows.
[03:45] <redshadowhero> Skanarchy: if you find anything on that, tell me; I may like to know that for my reference one day.
[03:45] <Skanarchy> yeah, Im expecting it to be pretty awesome <_<
[03:45] <rrbiz> redshadowhero: yeah going cold turkey today and throwing buntu on my 3 boxes, just gotta work out all the rough stuff
[03:46] <rrbiz> xp is super cake, but then super vulnerable
[03:46] <stoned> is there a way to clear whats been cached in the memory ?
[03:46] <stoned> I like XP
[03:46] <redshadowhero> Me, too.
[03:46] <NickPresta> I actually find things are harder to do in Windows. Especially when you want to customize something to fit your needs exactly.
[03:47] <redshadowhero> Vista is the one that I refuse to do anything with.
[03:47] <stoned> especially cleaned out with nlite and with stuff from virtualplastic and other goodies and opensource tools and stuff
[03:47] <redshadowhero> even at work.
[03:47] <stoned> its a solid stable OS
[03:47] <stoned> well
[03:47] <tripppy> im trying to get kaffene to use two tv tuners? i have one working.
[03:47] <stoned> as stable as can be
[03:47] <stoned> from ms
[03:47] <redshadowhero> stoned: which is not saying a lot.
[03:47] <rrbiz> trippy which tuner is that one ?
[03:48] <ubuntu> frqncqis iciM
[03:48] <tripppy> twinhan DVB-T (VP3020C)
[03:48] <ubuntu> francais ici
[03:48] <stoned> are there any widgets for kde?
[03:49] <NickPresta> !fr | ubuntu
[03:49] <stoned> looking for a good sysinfo panel for *karamba
[03:49] <ubotu> ubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:49] <redshadowhero> widgets? You mean like dashboard widgets/ms gadgets?
[03:49] <NickPresta> stoned, glass monitor
[03:49] <tripppy> the 2nd one is a asus U3000mini USB (STK7700)- which is not working
[03:49] <parsek_77> my external usb HDD (ntfs) does not mount automatically. how can I fix it?
[03:50] <parsek_77> do I need to edit fstab?
[03:51] <NickPresta> parsek_77, that would work, yes
[03:51] <stoned> ohhh thats a nice panel
[03:51] <parsek_77> NickPresta: but how?
[03:51] <redshadowhero> with pico, or kate, or something like that.
[03:51] <stoned> how does one edit/configure any karamba theme?
[03:52] <parsek_77> redshadowhero: I know, I mean, what to add
[03:52] <NickPresta> parsek_77, I have this in my fstab at the bottom: /dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[03:52] <tripppy> rrbiz, twinhan DVB-T (VP3020C)
[03:52] <NickPresta> it works fine.
[03:52] <redshadowhero> parsek_77: oops... sorry...
[03:52] <tripppy> rrbiz, the 2nd one is a asus U3000mini USB (STK7700)- which is not working
[03:52] <NickPresta> stoned, download the source, find the python theme file and edit away.
[03:52] <rrbiz> ahhh twinhan, i'm tempted to buy one of them
[03:52] <parsek_77> NickPresta: it works for my windows too, but not for external usb
[03:52] <NickPresta> parsek_77, what is the path of your external usb?
[03:53] <rrbiz> trippy u got it opened up, with nagra2 or some'n ?
[03:53] <parsek_77> it is /dev/sdb1
[03:53] <NickPresta> and replacing the above with /dev/sdb1 doesn't work?
[03:53] <parsek_77> let me try again
[03:53] <NickPresta> does it work with `mount`?
[03:53] <parsek_77> yes
[03:54] <NickPresta> then it should work with fstab, somehow. It probably needs a little more tinkering.
[03:56] <mboso_> Is the kde.org website down?
[03:56] <mboso_> !topic
[03:56] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[03:57] <parsek_77> NickPresta: I corrected fstab, unplug and plug the HDD but no luck
[03:57] <tripppy> rrbiz: nagra2?
[03:58] <rrbiz> yeah not familiar with it though, how is the FTA channels ?
[03:58] <tripppy> rrbiz: FTA channels?
[03:59] <NickPresta> parsek_77, you have to mount the stuff in fstab. try this: `sudo mount -a`
[03:59] <NickPresta> and see if it's mounted
[04:00] <parsek_77> I think it worked
[04:00] <tripppy> hd is a bit choppy
[04:00] <NickPresta> parsek_77, =). If it did, then it should be mounted on startup...
[04:00] <parsek_77> NickPresta: how can I safely remove it,
[04:00] <tripppy> i think its my system tho. underspecced for tv
[04:00] <parsek_77> NickPresta: I don't use my external always
[04:01] <parsek_77> it doesn't need to mount at startup
[04:01] <NickPresta> parsek_77, it should be as easy as `sudo umount /path/to/mounted/device`
[04:01] <parsek_77> NickPresta: I see, but it's not automatic
[04:01] <rrbiz> tripppy: nevermind, thought it was a diff card
[04:02] <parsek_77> NickPresta: for my thumb drive, it shows an icon at desktop
[04:02] <NickPresta> parsek_77, i dont understand what you mean. if its in your fstab, it will be mounted automatically at startup. if you don't want that, don't put it in your fstab. mount it manually whenever you want it.
[04:03] <parsek_77> NickPresta: even if the drive is not plugged, how can it mount it?
[04:04] <NickPresta> parsek_77, I don't know. You could try right clicking on the desktop > Create New Link To Device > HDD. Play around in that window.
[04:04] <aldcor> aldcor
[04:05] <parsek_77> NickPresta: ok, thanks so much
[04:05] <NickPresta> No problem. I wasn't terribly helpful. I hope you find a solution to suit your needs.
[04:06] <parsek_77> I hope so
[04:07] <redshadowhero> I still wonder if there is a way of testing for a bot on here...
[04:07] <NickPresta> redshadowhero, #test
[04:08] <redshadowhero> NickPresta: I meant, testing for the presence of a bot on here.
[04:08] <redshadowhero> NickPresta: in this channel.
[04:10] <slacker403> how much ram does a default kubuntu use ?
[04:10] <Skanarchy> ok, im just going to stick with the extension thingy. But I have another question, how to get the laptop monitor as the main monitor, it always goes to the additional monitor.
[04:11] <NickPresta> slacker403, I was able to run Kubuntu (Edgy Eft) on a P3, 733Mhz with 256 of RAM without many slowdowns, if any. Almost all slowdowns were related to my processor anyways. What are your specs?
[04:11] <slacker403> 3 ghz 1 gb ram
[04:11] <redshadowhero> wow..
[04:12] <slacker403> BUT i have ot run something inda big on to pof that sooo
[04:12] <slacker403> i was really trying to keep it at a min
[04:12] <redshadowhero> that is more than sufficient, I would say....
[04:12] <NickPresta> well, does this thing you're running require processing power or tons of RAM?
[04:12] <NickPresta> if you're worried about RAM usage, use something like rat poison or something minimal and turn off all unneeded services.
[04:15] <uederfer> ok
[04:20] <tk> anyone that has access to the bot... this might be worth adding for people that have bluetooth questions
[04:20] <tk> http://wiki.tcl.tk/9112
[04:21] <tk> appears to have fixed my problem :)
[04:22] <ses59> i am looking at puppy modem dialer and wanted to know if anyone has tried this dialer program
[04:23] <ses59> it looks good on the site but wanted to make sure it would work with kubuntu
[04:23] <slacker403> i was just trying ot make a kubuntu light
[04:24] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Kubuntu Light... Isn't that an oxymoron?
[04:24] <slacker403> what do you mean ?
[04:24] <slacker403> i was saying trying ot make it as lgiht as possible
[04:25] <slacker403> no extra services etc just kde
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: about the lightest you'll get is if you use the alternate/server cd and install kde without all the kubuntu-desktop cruft
[04:25] <slacker403> i need kde though :p
[04:25] <slacker403> im saying keep it at the luightest with kde
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: you can install kde by itself, there is a seperate pkg for it
[04:26] <slacker403> im sure
[04:26] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> KDE is the heaviest DE out there. That's what I ment by "kubuntu light" being an oxymoron.
[04:26] <slacker403> but will that result in a better system / lighter ?
[04:26] <slacker403> or will just the default kubuntu beabou the same ?
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: kubuntu-desktop installs all kinds of useless (imho) stuff along with kde
[04:26] <slacker403> KDE is not the heaviest and is lighter then Gnome
[04:26] <slacker403> its how you configure it
[04:27] <slacker403> hitmanWilly, im really just owrieed about ram usegae not disk
[04:27] <slacker403> kde cna do around 80 mb
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: kde is going to suck RAM through a straw, period
[04:27] <slacker403> can be ran in 80 mb
[04:27] <slacker403> what do you mean ?
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: kde is a VERY heavy DE/wm
[04:28] <slacker403> still if kubuntu has 20 extera processesrunning in the background that could be a problem
[04:28] <slacker403> again i disagree since im very familiar with it ;)
[04:28] <slacker403> kde plus all the fancy stuff sure
[04:29] <vecina> anyone here know how i can decrypt -my- m4p files? (emphasis on -my- since im pissed at apple) I want to play them on linux
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> vecina: the only way i know of is to burn them to a CD through itunes and then rip it to another format
[04:30] <vecina> any idea why my itunes says neither of my burning drives are "recognizable by Itunes"?
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> vecina: the DRM on them makes them unusable under linux
[04:31] <vecina> everyone hates us
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> and we hate DRM :)
[04:31] <randy> Okay I have an odd question, Theres these little windows that pop open all the time and say "The KDE Window Manager" or "Conversation" How do I get rid of that? It keeps messing programs up.
[04:33] <NickPresta> randy, I don't know what you're talking about. Screenshot or more detail?
[04:33] <randy> ok gimmie a second
[04:35] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Can anyone recommend a good TV Tuner that works well under Linux? I'm thinking of getting one pretty soon, mainly so I can record some video game stuff.
[04:38] <draik> How do I convert mp3 to wma?
[04:38] <randy> NickPresta: http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/6532/snapshot21gp7.jpg
[04:39] <randy> like the one at the top but they pop up all over, when someone msgs in IRC a little window pops up enxt to in on the menu on the bottom of the screen with the persons name and the message
[04:39] <randy> Also happens when any program pretty much does ANYTHING
[04:47] <elite101> does kubuntu have a firewall?
[04:47] <intelikey> iptables
[04:47] <elite101> what are they?
[04:47] <intelikey> and or ipchains
[04:48] <intelikey> !firewall
[04:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:48] <elite101> lol i have this neat little code cor cmd prompt and i need like an acutal ip adress not the 192.168.... yeah i cant do it in kubuntu but just wondering
[04:48] <elite101> for*
[04:49] <elite101> it turns cmd into a messenger
[04:49] <intelikey> !find cmd
[04:49] <ubotu> Found: kjscmd, libcmd-ruby, libcmd-ruby1.8, libcmdparse-ruby, libcmdparse2-ruby (and 4 others)
[04:50] <randy>  http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/6532/snapshot21gp7.jpg anyone know any idea how to get rid of those little windows?
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> elite101: just remember its not setup by default
[04:50] <neusonce> how effective is  firestarter?
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> neusonce: as effective as you set it up to be
[04:51] <BluesKaj> dunno neusonce, been on linux for 18mos now ...haven't used it yet :)
[04:52] <neusonce> im a linux baby too
[04:52] <neusonce> only a few days
[04:52] <neusonce>  but i refuse ever to go back to windows
[04:52] <BluesKaj> err 18 months , not days
[04:52] <intelikey> the linux firewall capabilities are infinitly capable
[04:53] <neusonce> iv only being useing for a few days
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> neusonce: all linux "firewall" apps are just front ends for iptables/ipchains, the built in firewall
[04:54] <neusonce> im  LINUX BABY, im having a bitch of a time installing java  to you guys i must seem infantile
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> neusonce: unfortunately, im not really an expert on software firewalls, i generally have a router set up with a hardware one
[04:55] <BluesKaj> no, java and flash have been problematic on some setups lately , neusonce.
[04:55] <intelikey> hardware firewall ???   like pulling the plug ?
[04:55] <neusonce>  how effective are hardware firewalls aginst software
[04:55] <neusonce>  grrrrrrrrrr
[04:56] <BluesKaj> but it's my sacktime , so i'm off to the sandman...nite all , take care .
[04:56] <neusonce> iv done almost everything thats been asked of me and i still canot install java or flash
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ok, sorry, firmware would probably be a better term for it
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: in other words, the router's built in one
[04:57] <intelikey> yeah,  it's just code   wether in the bios of the router or in the kernel of the linux box  or some third party crap in windows
[04:57] <joe4288> hey guys whats up
[04:57] <randy>  http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/6532/snapshot21gp7.jpg anyone know any idea how to get rid of those little windows?
[04:57] <joe4288> im having trouble with beryl
[04:58] <joe4288> i installed the newest nvidid driver
[04:58] <aldcor> aldcor
[04:58] <intelikey> !beryl | joe4288
[04:58] <ubotu> joe4288: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:58] <Fr0de> randy: do they only happen when you have Konversation running?
[04:58] <joe4288> (had some trouble because i used nvidia-gxl not nvidia new)
[04:58] <aldcor> aldcor
[04:58] <randy> they happen all the time
[04:58] <randy> whenever someone msgs me on gaim one pops up
[04:58] <randy> whenever im on the desktop one pops up
[04:58] <randy> whenever a program does anything one pops up
[04:59] <joe4288> well atleast beryll works for u
[04:59] <neusonce> dose dvd 9 to 5 have an inbuilt decryter?
[04:59] <randy> i tried setting the notifications to default but the settings dont save
[04:59] <joe4288> the second i logged in with beryl to boot at start up
[04:59] <joe4288> all i got a black screen
[04:59] <joe4288> period
[04:59] <neusonce> whats beryl
[04:59] <neusonce> ??
[04:59] <joe4288> it makes you desktop all 3d
[04:59] <Fr0de> randy: try renaming your .kde directory to .kde_old: 'mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_old'
[04:59] <joe4288> well somthing like it its just preaty
[05:00] <intelikey> neusonce see ubotu above
[05:00] <Fr0de> randy: that should make all kde settings start from defaults again
[05:00] <joe4288> so what about me and my black screen?
[05:00] <joe4288> i think its a nvidia driver issue
[05:00] <Fr0de> randy: after renaming it, log out and in again
[05:00] <randy> okay
[05:01] <randy> lemme try that
[05:01] <joe4288> well thats asmuch as i could pick up from looking online
[05:01] <intelikey> joe4288 /join #ubuntu-effects
[05:01] <joe4288> ok
[05:01] <Fr0de> randy: beware that you might appear to lose settings
[05:01] <sergiu> hello
[05:01] <Fr0de> randy: which is why we're renaming, not deleting
[05:01] <sergiu> it is possible to install an .deb package with dependecy ?
[05:02] <Fr0de> sergiu: yep
[05:02] <sergiu> fr0de: how ?:)
[05:02] <Fr0de> sergiu: sudo dpkg -i <package> ; sudo apt-get -f install
[05:02] <intelikey> dpkg -i file.deb ;apt-get install -f    <<< sergiu as root
[05:02] <Fr0de> the dpkg command will fail, but the apt-get will get the deps, then install the .deb
[05:03] <intelikey> i'm eating,  i'm slow.
[05:03] <Fr0de> :P
[05:03] <intelikey> bon apiteete
[05:04] <sergiu> Fr0de:  sudo apt-get -f install <package> ?
[05:04] <intelikey> nope.
[05:04] <Fr0de> sergiu: hmm.. shouln't need package name
[05:04] <sergiu> ok
[05:04] <intelikey> not unless you want to dl it from the repos.   then yes.
[05:05] <Fr0de> what intelikey said! :P
[05:05] <ShockValue> ok, i ssh'd to this machine from work.. is there anyway for me to take over that ssh session from here?
[05:05] <sergiu> not it's download needed packages
[05:05] <sergiu> now
[05:05] <draik> How do I convert mp3 to wma? I need wma for my mobile phone
[05:05] <sergiu> then install it with sudo dpkg -i <package>
[05:05] <Fr0de> ShockValue: did you run a screen session?
[05:06] <ShockValue> Fr0de:  a what? :)
[05:06] <sergiu> thanks
[05:06] <intelikey> !info screen | ShockValue
[05:06] <Fr0de> ShockValue: check out the 'screen' program, handy for ssh sessions - keeps the stuff you're doing alive, and can be taken over from a new connection
[05:06] <ubotu> shockvalue: screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 571 kB, installed size 980 kB
[05:06] <aldcor> aldcor
[05:07] <ShockValue> i suppose if i didnt run that first, then its pointless to install it now?
[05:07] <Fr0de> ShockValue: it won't let you take over a non-screen ssh session, no
[05:08] <intelikey> search "-nohup"
[05:08] <randy> THANK YOU THOSE DAMN WINDOWS ARE GONE!
[05:09] <Fr0de> randy: :D
[05:09] <intelikey> !language | randy but;
[05:09] <ubotu> randy but;: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:09] <randy> sorry >_>
[05:09] <randy> Was just overjoyed there for a moment
[05:10] <dotz> hi i have a memory stick pro duo which i put into my laptop.. how to open it in kubuntu?
[05:10] <Fr0de> dotz: did you try plugging it in?
[05:10] <dotz> nothing happens after i plug in
[05:11] <Fr0de> dotz: and it works ok in other OSes?
[05:11] <slacker403> how big is a server install once installed ?
[05:12] <intelikey> less than 400m
[05:12] <elite101> i have a friend using online irc and i am in this channel #elitechannel and he is in the same one but it says on either no ones there?
[05:12] <intelikey> iirc
[05:12] <elite101> is there diffrent ports?
[05:12] <Fr0de> slacker403: but depends on what you install, of course
[05:12] <dotz> yeah..in windows it will pop out open folder to view files
[05:12] <intelikey> slacker403 best i recall 38?m
[05:12] <Fr0de> dotz: did you have to install any drivers in windows?
[05:13] <slacker403> huh?
[05:13] <hayden_> anyone know why no icons are showing inside openoffice on kubuntu 7.04?
[05:13] <Fr0de> slacker403: 380-390 MB, I think intelikey means.. :)
[05:13] <elite101> will diffrent IRC's know everychannel so it doesnt matter wich one u use?
 how big is a server install once installed ?  <<<< ><intelikey> slacker403 best i recall "three houndred eighty something megabytes
[05:14] <dotz> i don't remember i have to install drivers.. or maybe it is self installed
[05:14] <dotz> anyway, how do i check if the laptop has detected the card?
[05:14] <Fr0de> dotz: in a terminal, type 'lspci' and 'lsusb'
[05:14] <elite101> how do i change and IRC so its not on queit mode??
[05:15] <elite101> sorry offtopic
[05:15] <slacker403> ah thanks
[05:15] <slacker403> when i have a server install could i then install kde for a bare install + kde without all the useless stuff ?
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: yup
[05:16] <dotz> 02:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI7420 CardBus Controller <-- is it this?
[05:17] <slacker403> hitmanWilly, sounds good
[05:17] <dotz> its a sandisk memory duo pro card
[05:17] <Fr0de> dotz: is that from lspci or lsusb?
[05:18] <Fr0de> dotz: can you paste the output of both for me?
[05:18] <Fr0de> !paste
[05:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:18] <intelikey> slacker403 be advised that "kde" is a meta package that depends on "almost every kde specific app"   you may want kde-core
[05:18] <dotz> okay
[05:19] <intelikey> slacker403 at any rate you will want x-windowsystem-core    a meta package that will get xorg up and going for you.
[05:19] <intelikey> x-window-system-core     i forget which.
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: i would think kde-core would depend on that
[05:20] <intelikey> hitmanWilly but it doesnt'
[05:20] <slacker403> intelikey, if i install the kubuntu-desktop package or w/e
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> wow, that's dumb...
[05:20] <slacker403> will that install whats needed
[05:21] <intelikey> slacker403 without the kubuntu-desktop   that depends on everything that the liveCD would install
[05:21] <dotz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31031/
[05:21] <intelikey> and the name is.  x-window-system-core - X Window System core components
[05:21] <slacker403> hmm damn
[05:21] <slacker403> i just want a bare regualr install with KDE trying to keep things light as possible within reason
[05:21] <intelikey> if you want light weight you want that ^ plus some DE
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: that's xorg, not xfree, right?
[05:22] <intelikey> hitmanWilly right
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: k, just never had to install X outright on a buntu system before
[05:22] <Fr0de> dotz: any other usb devices (other than the key) plugged in?
[05:23] <intelikey> slacker403 it sounds like you want the server install plus x-window-system-core pluse kde-base + kde-core
[05:23] <slacker403> sounds good
[05:23] <intelikey> hitmanWilly i have several times now.  and you definitly want x-window-system-core
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: gotcha, its xorg-xserver over here in gentoo land :)
[05:25] <intelikey> slacker403 i normally default to installing   server install then add  x-window-system-core blackbox and some cli apps that i use regularly.
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: or vice-versa, can't remember off the top of my head
[05:25] <dotz> yes, my mouse..
[05:25] <dotz> do i have to reboot in order to see the memory stick?
[05:25] <Fr0de> dotz: shouldn't need to
[05:25] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yeah there is a meta package xserver-xorg  but that alone isn't quite enough for a satisfactory x server
[05:26] <rrbiz> damn, i miss gui-everything in MS, resorting to console often is a drag
[05:26] <dotz> i'm using kubuntu edgy 6.06
[05:26] <stdin> hitmanWilly: i find the best way to get X in ubuntu (eg in the server edition) is to just do: apt-get install xorg
[05:26] <dotz> maybe some modules not installed?
[05:26] <Fr0de> dotz: looks like only one device (the mouse, I guess) is being reported by your usb card
[05:26] <intelikey> dotz edgy is not 6.6
[05:26] <Fr0de> dotz: dapper is 6.06
[05:27] <slacker403> intelikey, apt correct ?
[05:27] <dotz> the card reader is an internal buildin the laptop type so i couldn't see the model
[05:27] <Fr0de> dotz: I recommend you move to feisty
[05:27] <dotz> sorry edgy
[05:27] <intelikey> slacker403 sudo apt-get install whatever
[05:27] <intelikey> slacker403 some like aptitude better...
[05:27] <intelikey> but ! i
[05:27] <Fr0de> dotz: at least try a live cd of feisty, see if the card is recognised
[05:28] <slacker403> yea well
[05:28] <slacker403> will do that intelikey  hopefully it wont pack in to much garbage
[05:28] <slacker403> or any extra stuff running
[05:30] <intelikey> slacker403 after any apt command you can read the list of things it wants to install/remove before you give it the go-ahead
[05:31] <Fr0de> intelikey: unless it's a single package with no deps.. ;)
[05:31] <intelikey> then you have typed the list
[05:31] <dotz> i read something it says it need this module usb-uhci and usb-storage .. and so i try modprobe usb-storage
[05:31] <dotz> and modprobe usb-uhci says usb-uhci not found.. how can i get this module? apt-get ?
[05:32] <intelikey> hey guys quick Q   will a USR usb modem work in linux   or are they also winmodems ?
[05:32] <stdin> I believe it's called uhci-hcd dotz
[05:33] <dotz> ok
[05:36] <tk> bleh, bluetooth still isnt auto connecting :(
[05:37] <hatter> can anyone point to a document on the web on why ubuntu uses sudo and disables root ?
[05:37] <intelikey> correction  'really slow' Q   will a USR usb modem work in linux   or are they also winmodems ?
[05:37] <intelikey> !root | hatter
[05:37] <ubotu> hatter: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:38] <dotz> i believe i need usb-uhci (not sure why) but its not there.. anyone knows how to get it?
[05:38] <tk> intelikey: any wise words about bluetooth and auto connecting to peripherals?
[05:38] <chaotic_> hey   i have to overwrite  something  in the /etc  directory and its on the desktop
[05:38] <chaotic_> how do i do that
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> hatter: its easy enough to turn it back on
[05:38] <intelikey> tk i dont have anything with blue teeth
[05:38] <chaotic_> hellanzb.cong
[05:38] <chaotic_> .conf
[05:39] <Fr0de> chaotic_: sudo cp ~/Desktop/itme /etc/subdir/item
[05:39] <Fr0de> item :)
[05:39] <hatter> hitmanWilly, yes i know, i do this,  i am trying to understand how its better not to, i just find it annoying
[05:39] <hatter> after using linux for years, it becomes a pain to sudo in front of everything
[05:39] <tk> hatter: sudo -s
[05:40] <Fr0de> hatter: make a password for root: sudo passwd root
[05:40] <varaonaid> hi, i don't seem to be able to view any websites that use javascript.  i keep getting an error saying that i have missing plugins (java runtime environment) but I have it installed as well as the java plugin.
[05:40] <elite101> is there Xchat for kubuntu?
[05:40] <varaonaid> i tried to reinstall it and got a message saying that java6plugin is already installed and set to manual install
[05:40] <Fr0de> varaonaid: javascript is not java
[05:40] <tk> varaonaid: javascript has nothign to do with java other than the first 4 letters of javascript
[05:40] <varaonaid> what does that mean?
[05:40] <hatter> Fr0de, yes, i am aware of this, i am trying to understand the reasoning of sudo by default
[05:41] <stdin> elite101: just install xchat, it works in KDE and Gnome
[05:41] <Fr0de> hatter: no password guesser will go straight to the root account
[05:41] <intelikey> hatter if you want a root password just set one.   it's your computer and your operating system (unlike M$ crap that you never own)
[05:41] <elite101> stdin: okay where do i do that
[05:41] <stdin> hatter: helps if you run sshd, trust me
[05:41] <elite101> adept
[05:41] <stdin> elite101: yeah, or apt, your choice
[05:41] <hatter> i run sshd, and disable root login, but thats different to typing sudo at every command
[05:42] <stdin> hatter: sudo -i  gives you a root shell
[05:42] <stdin> hatter: also sudo su - would work
[05:42] <Fr0de> hatter: I do 'sudo su -' if I have a lot of root work to do
[05:42] <varaonaid> Fr0de, tk: my mistake... i can't view sites that use java.  even though ihave java runtime installed and the plugin as well, i still get the error and don't understand what it meant that the plugin was set to manual install
[05:42] <hatter> i agree we can add a root password,  i am just wondering why sudo is default, if there is any great security increase
[05:42] <K-Ryan> How can I set a user not able to use sudo?
[05:42] <stdin> there really is no need for a regular user to "login" as root from the get go
[05:42] <K-Ryan> Well, remove root privaledges in its whole.
[05:42] <hatter> 'sudo su -' is a good idea, i will do this
[05:43] <intelikey> hatter and indeed i have to agree with stdin on that, if you run sshd either you don't want a root passwd or you don't want to allow root login or you want a really good root password.  one of the three
[05:43] <Fr0de> !sudo
[05:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:43] <chaotic_> sudo cp ~/Desktop/Hellanzb.conf /etc/Hellanzb.conf
[05:43] <chaotic_> cp: cannot stat `/home/chaotic/Desktop/Hellanzb.conf': No such file or directory
[05:43] <Fr0de> the /etc/sudoers file where you set perms for who can sudo, iirc
[05:44] <hatter> intelikey, well you would never allow direct root login across the net with ssh, but once you are in , you may as well have root
[05:44] <chaotic_> hey frode what am i supposed  to do
[05:44] <Fr0de> chaotic_: then it's not on your desktop.. :P
[05:45] <intelikey> hatter i disagree.  remote adminestration can be very useful    it all depends on what you do and where you do it...
[05:45] <Fr0de> chaotic_: open a konqueror window, navigate to the folder with the item, then hit F4
[05:45] <Fr0de> chaotic_: then sudo cp <item> /etc/<path>/<item
[05:45] <hatter> intelikey, remote administration is essential,  i am saying when you get there you still need to be root
[05:45] <gandhiii> got a newbie question that has probably been asked a billion times.  trying to install nvidia drivers..  but it told me i was missing libc..   i'm looking at adept now.. and it shows libc6 is installed..  if not that .. which of these libc similar packages are being asked for by the nvidia drivers?
[05:45] <aldcor> aldcor
[05:46] <intelikey> hatter if sudo works locally it will work for ssh connections too
[05:46] <hatter> intelikey, yes. I dont understand why i would want to type sudo in front of each command.
[05:47] <K-Ryan> Removing root privaledges anyone?
[05:47] <hatter> i think its a good idea for multiuser auditing but i am not understanding why it used on a single user system
[05:47] <stdin> K-Ryan: they can only use sudo if they are in the admin group or explicitly in the /etc/sudoers file
[05:47] <intelikey> hatter and some people think "well a hacker/cracker will never know my login name so my password is ok"   then the same idiot logs into an irc network with their user name....      like DUH  where do you think the cracker is going to look for victoms anyway ???
[05:47] <stdin> hatter: think of it from the windows users perspective too, they are used to having the user be an "administrator" and logging in as that. they see the root user as the normal admin user and think "well, I'll just login as root all the time". that don't quite get the power of root and that it can be dangerous to be root if you aren't careful
[05:48] <chaotic_> thanks guys it worked
[05:49] <chaotic_> hey btw
[05:49] <hatter> stdin, i am hearing the 'dangerous' angle, but what is the difference with rm -fr / or sudo rm -fr / ?
[05:49] <chaotic_> how do i get firefox to load  konversation when i click an irc link
[05:49] <stdin> hatter: the 1st won't kill your whole system, the 2nd will
[05:49] <chaotic_> isnt it -rf
[05:49] <intelikey> the differance is with sudo you remove all data  without it you remove your personal data
[05:49] <stoned> chaotic_: helper applications
[05:50] <stdin> chaotic_: the order don't matter
[05:50] <chaotic_> ah
[05:50] <intelikey> chaotic_ order of the switches is bull
[05:50] <intelikey> null even
[05:50] <stdin> bull :p
[05:50] <intelikey> typo
[05:50] <chaotic_> so  u can use cp   as  well as -pc
[05:50] <intelikey> that's not a switch it's a command
[05:50] <stdin> chaotic_: no, just for the options (switches), not commands
[05:50] <chaotic_> ah
[05:51] <intelikey> and there are apps and switches that the order does matter on.  just not that one.
[05:52] <K-Ryan> What would I edit in /etc/sudoers to make just one account be able to have root privaledges?
[05:52] <stdin> K-Ryan: easiest way is to remove all the other users from the admin group
[05:52] <intelikey> general rule of thumb, if the switch requires an argument be appended  then the order is important, if it doesn't then it doesn't
[05:52] <stdin> K-Ryan: only the 1st user set up will be in there by default
[05:53] <K-Ryan> stdin: It says "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:53] <intelikey> K-Ryan or change the word  admin   to the user name
[05:53] <stdin> K-Ryan: yes, that means that the people in the group "admin" can use it
[05:53] <stdin> K-Ryan: just remove all other uses from the admin group in system settings
[05:54] <K-Ryan> stdin: Thanks, now to find that =)
[05:54] <intelikey> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL <<>> ryan ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:54] <stdin> that would work too ^
[05:55] <stdin> but sometimes it's easier to just add/remove a user from admin (for me). plus if you mess up the sudoers file you can break sudo
[05:55] <hatter> 'sudo su -'  gives me a root shell ?
[05:55] <intelikey> i like my sudoers file :)))
[05:55] <intelikey> ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
[05:55] <stdin> hatter: yes, or sudo -i
[05:55] <intelikey> hatter so does   sudo -i
[05:56] <tk> and sudo -s
[05:56] <hatter> gives me a root shell without entering a password ?
[05:56] <tk> but you gotta enter the current users pass with -s
[05:56] <stdin> hatter: no, you have to enter the pass once
[05:56] <stdin> tk: and with -i
[05:56] <hatter> the users pass ?
[05:56] <stdin> hatter: your password
[05:56] <intelikey> yes   even with the   sudo su -
[05:57] <stdin> there is a way to make sudo "passwordless" tho ;)
[05:57] <stdin> actually there are 2 ways
[05:57] <hatter> so if we also had a root password then which password would it require ?
[05:58] <intelikey> except i think ubuntu sets up a timmer on the sudo  so you don't enter the password but one time if you use sudo every so ofter       what 1 minute or something ?
[05:58] <wolferine> sudo su is root
[05:58] <hatter> is root without a second password
[05:58] <wolferine> second password?
[05:58] <hatter> ie if i login to one of my boxes via ssh, i login with a user, then i have to su to root and enter a second password
[05:59] <dr_willis> hatter,  better to use 'sudo -s' or was it sudo -i
[05:59] <hatter> so if my first login were compromised i still would get root access with it
[05:59] <dr_willis> of course i tend to use 'sux'
[05:59] <hatter> 'still woudnt'
[05:59] <wolferine> sux :)
[05:59] <dr_willis> They would have to guess/hack your users  NAME, and then their password.
[05:59] <hatter> so what i am getting at is,  the sudo user has only 1 password level to get root access
[06:00] <intelikey> hatter well   if you like "exotic"  i have a totally passwordless system
[06:00] <dr_willis> the fact a haxor dont know you rusers name is another level of security.
[06:00] <dr_willis> the use of sudo is also there to protect the user from theirselfs. :)
[06:00] <stdin> hatter: sudo and su aren't just for root, you can do "su user" to login as "user", then you'd enter the password for "user"
[06:00] <hatter> intelikey, yes, using keys, but you still need a passphrase ?
[06:00] <intelikey> dr_willis unless you login to an irc server with your user name
[06:00] <stdin> hatter: but with "sudo su user" you'd enter your password
[06:00] <hatter> but is the passphrase useless without the key ?
[06:01] <intelikey> hatter no.
[06:01] <intelikey> hatter i mean a totally passwordless system.   all accounts are locked.
[06:01] <dr_willis> intelikey,  :) we never do that! :0
[06:01] <dr_willis> heh.
[06:01] <hatter> intelikey, but you still have a passphrase ?
[06:02] <intelikey> passwd -dl 'all users'
[06:02] <intelikey> hatter no.
[06:02] <dr_willis> totally passwordless , just hit enter. :)
[06:02] <intelikey> dr_willis exactly
[06:02] <hatter> so if i got your key i would have access
[06:02] <intelikey> there is no key
[06:02] <hatter> passwordless is using an rsa key
[06:02] <intelikey> no
[06:03] <intelikey> not here
[06:03] <VerWolF> Hi people. Where can i add russian translation for ktorrent 2.2?? Can u help me?
[06:03] <hatter> no rsa key and no passwords ?  what is your ip address ;)
[06:03] <dr_willis> hatter,  127.0.0.1
[06:03] <dr_willis> :)
[06:03] <hatter> :)
[06:03] <intelikey> hatter look it up.  but sshd isn't running anyway
[06:04] <hatter> ok, so we are offtopic,  we were talking of security ?
[06:04] <intelikey> hatter yeah and security is offtopic
[06:04] <hatter> ok
[06:05] <stdin> unless you ask "how can I secure my box", then it's on-topic :p
[06:05] <hatter> i think sudo is a definite ubuntu topic :)
[06:06] <intelikey> for this long maybe
[06:06] <intelikey> !sudo
[06:06] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:06] <Dark_alex> hello
[06:06] <intelikey> there you go  ^
[06:06] <dr_willis> Jello!
[06:06] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> hey dark alex
[06:06] <Dark_alex> hey
[06:06] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> hows it going?
[06:06] <Dark_alex> good
[06:06] <stdin> :p
[06:06] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> lol
[06:07] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> diablo too
[06:07] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> its elite
[06:07] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> 101
[06:07] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> Dark alex is my other Xchatter lol
[06:07] <stdin> elite? you mean 133T?
[06:07] <hatter> ok i have a new question,  my kubuntu menu is on the right hand side of the screen, however the menus appear directly over the top of the icons, making it painful to navigate the menus , any ideas ?
[06:07] <aldcor> aldcor
[06:07] <doctorow> When I put my Feisty Kubuntu Lenovo X60 to sleep and wake it up again in a different location, it doesn't see the local WiFi networks -- the network selector in the Kubuntu toolbar only shows the networks from the location I was in when I put the machine to sleep. Any ideas for getting it to refresh that list?
[06:07] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> its not a real person just me but im gonna change my nick its too long
[06:07] <xD3ATHSLAY3Rx> yeah
[06:07] <elite101> there
[06:08] <elite101> lol
[06:08] <intelikey> 1337 57d1n
[06:08] <hatter> that is when i move the mouse over the menus, the menus appear directly on top of the menu bar
[06:08] <elite101> i had to use xchat to help a friend join a channel so i made a fake account and started talking
[06:08] <magor666> wow alot of people use kubuntu
[06:08] <intelikey> or |337 57d1n
[06:08] <elite101> this is magor666 (curently running windows) :(
[06:08] <elite101> !windows
[06:08] <hatter> how do you like that.  now they arent.
[06:08] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:09] <magor666> lfmao
[06:09] <elite101> magor enter #psp-programming
[06:09] <hatter> oh yes they do.  after i have selected the 'k' icon for instance, the first menu appears directly above obfuscating the others
[06:11] <intelikey> when in a gui...
[06:11] <doctorow> What is the keyboard shortcut for screenshots in Kubuntu?
[06:12] <intelikey> print screen ?
[06:12] <dr_willis> intelikey,  thats too logical. :)
[06:12] <intelikey> :)))
[06:12] <doctorow> intelikey Do you know where the image file would go?
[06:12] <intelikey> in your home dir
[06:12] <dr_willis> doctorow,  it loads up a program I do belive
[06:13] <dr_willis> Using gnome at the moment.. *ghasp* :) it loads a dialog asking where to save to. but not suire on kde.
[06:13] <doctorow> dr_willis Any suggestions for troubleshooting if that doesn't work?
[06:13] <dr_willis> doctorow,  use any of a dozen+ screen grabber tools out there.
[06:13] <doctorow> dr_willis I'm trying to work around a bug in ksnapshot
[06:13] <vn-> hi, anyone knows the name of the non free nvidia drivers on kubuntu?
[06:13] <vn-> the package name
[06:13] <intelikey> doctorow last i looked there was a menu itom "take a screen shot"
[06:14] <dr_willis> gimp can grab screens also,
[06:14] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:14] <dr_willis> vn-,  nvidia-glx i do belive.
[06:14] <vn-> danke
[06:14] <dr_willis> but its best to read that bot url it juat gave
[06:14] <dr_willis> i always install that 'restricted-manager' program to isntall those thingss
[06:14] <doctorow> dr_willis by using KDE's built-in screen-grabber. The bug is that when I foreground a video window (VLC, Democracy, Kaffeine, Totem) and press New Snapshot in Ksnapshot, the video-player BLANKS OUT the video!
[06:14] <aldcor> aldcor
[06:15] <dr_willis> the video player is using some sort of special mode i belive, to get faster displays on the X display.
[06:15] <psyk0ninja> how do you change the default browser for rssnewsreader in superkaramba?
[06:15] <aldcor> aldcor
[06:15] <dr_willis> Ive seen similer 'issues' in other ways with video players also.
[06:15] <doctorow> dr_willis Any ideas for working around this?
[06:15] <doctorow> dr_willis I want to get a screenshot from a video
[06:15] <dr_willis> doctorow,  not really worried about it much. :)
[06:15] <dr_willis> most video players have a screencapture feature.
[06:15] <dr_willis> im sure vlc and xine can do it.
[06:16] <dr_willis> you might need to set up the keybindings however
[06:16] <intelikey> yeah use the app to save a frame of the vidio
[06:16] <elite101> #psp-progamming
[06:16] <dr_willis> Ive used it befor to get some screen shots for  wallpaper
[06:16] <intelikey> oh sorry too logical again ?
[06:16] <doctorow> dr_willis VLC doesn't have such a mode, nor Kaffeine. Do you remember which program you used?
[06:17] <dr_willis> im pretty suyre VLC does have a screen grab featuire
[06:17] <slacker403> anyways to make kubuntu + kde to run more light etc ?
[06:18] <intelikey> run lighter ?   kill un-needed/un-wanted processes and remove their startup linkx from /etc/rc2.d/
[06:18] <doctorow> dr_willis If VLC has one, it's not in any of the menus
[06:18] <dr_willis> vlc -------> video ----> snapshot
[06:18] <dr_willis> it does to0....
[06:18] <dr_willis> :)
[06:18] <intelikey> and maybe form /etc/rcS.d/  also
[06:19] <dr_willis> vlcsnap-7792694.png  vlcsnap-7792729.png  vlcsnap-7792762.png
[06:19] <intelikey> config kde to run only what you want it to run at startup also helps
[06:19] <vn-> thanks dr_willis got my stuff working =)
[06:19] <doctorow> dr_willis -- Thanks -- I'm going to reinstall VLC cuz that menu isn't there for me.
[06:20] <intelikey> doc your a bad influnce on me...     ;/      i'm twice the smart elic when you agg it on....
[06:21] <dr_willis> :)
[06:21] <dr_willis> i wonder if i got my vlc set for 'advanced' mode..
[06:22] <intelikey> prolly   can't see why you wouldn't have it that way
[06:22] <slacker403> what is your guys KDE + kubuntu use ram wise as  default ?
[06:23] <intelikey> slacker403 heh   95%  no matter how much you have
[06:23] <slacker403> i meant how much is actually being used but yea
[06:23] <NightBird> yeah.... my install uses most of my ram, but it's largely in file cache...
[06:23] <slacker403> that cache'ing gets kinda decieving
[06:23] <intelikey> got 64m it uses 95%     got 2g  it uses 95%
[06:24] <intelikey> slacker403 indeed.
[06:24] <slacker403> i can get my windows to run like 60 mb
[06:24] <NightBird> like a good third is cache... the remaining 2/3rds rougly is in use... and that's with 256 mb of ram.... maybe..
[06:24] <slacker403> ram
[06:24] <slacker403> although it does not cache
[06:24] <intelikey> my actual ram usage right now (x isn't running)  Used/Free: 8/241
[06:24] <elite101> wow
[06:25] <slacker403> they say kde adds about 80 without all the special features
[06:25] <elite101> lol im on KDE
[06:25] <slacker403> huh?
[06:25] <slacker403> this is kubuntu so i kinda expect that ;)
[06:25] <intelikey> slacker403 heh  i can run kde in a 64m p1 box
[06:25] <yotsuya> I have problems setting up my keyboard layout - it keeps resetting from "Russian" to "Unknown"
[06:26] <slacker403> KDE 4 and koffice 2.0 will mark a new line of accomplishment
[06:26] <aldcor> aldcor
[06:26] <intelikey> so i don't think kde takes quite 80m of ram
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> slacker403: i wouldn't assume that if I were you :)
[06:26] <slacker403> huh ?
[06:26] <slacker403> oh ah
[06:26] <slacker403> :p
[06:26] <slacker403> intelikey, i guess it all depends on how you set it up too
[06:27] <intelikey> slacker403 yeah  ubuntu has to be tweeked just a little to run in a 64m box      the install is the tricky part really.
[06:27] <slacker403> tweaked in what way ?
[06:28] <slacker403> 2ndly anyone here ever use Virtual Box ?
[06:28] <intelikey> clip out some of the things it defaults to run   too lighten the load
[06:28] <slacker403> defaults to run ?
[06:29] <slacker403> when i install my kubuntu-server  will it default anything ? lol
[06:29] <dr_willis> slacker403,  ive had much better luck with Vmware-server, then virtualbox
[06:29] <intelikey> hald udev and some other things that "they say" you need,  you know just common sense
[06:29] <slacker403> dr_willis, wow
[06:29] <slacker403> virtual server is about 10x faster then vmware server
[06:29] <chaotic_> do u guys know wheres teh queue directory  for hellannzb
[06:29] <dr_willis> I mainly test it with live cd.. virtual box dont work with a lot of them
[06:29] <dr_willis> ive never noticed virtualbox being that much faster running the other os's ive played with.
[06:30] <slacker403> i run virtual box from within linux and use a windows guest
[06:30] <dr_willis> but then again. ive not benchmarked the sttuff much. :)
[06:30] <slacker403> it gets 90 percent of perforamcne
[06:30] <slacker403> as if i was running  it on the real system
[06:30] <dr_willis> Ihad the wife set up wth a xp box, with vmware, with win95 in vmware for her. :)
[06:30] <dr_willis> so she couldent hirt the system
[06:30] <slacker403> hmmmmm
[06:31] <slacker403> vmware is much slower my friend
[06:31] <intelikey> wouldn't matter   win95 will fly on a p1
[06:31] <slacker403> virtualbox can use video drivers on the real system and network of the real system not some emulated stuff where it knocks the performance down
[06:31] <slacker403> all the executed code is sent directly to the processor again not emulated
[06:32] <slacker403> i used win95 fora long time i know ;)
[06:32] <slacker403> pentium 155 mhz worked great
[06:33] <intelikey> all the bull crap M$ churns out about "fastest windows ever"  is hardware dependant.    they expect you to run in on progressicely faster systems so you don't notice how much slower the system is than the previous one
[06:33] <intelikey> or in short     they lie
[06:33] <slacker403> MS is fine
[06:33] <slacker403> its all marketing ;)
[06:33] <slacker403> but i do wish they made photoshop for linux
[06:34] <intelikey> no   lie = lie        not    marketing = lie
[06:34] <slacker403> but it wont happen anytime soon i dont think
[06:34] <slacker403> not enough of a market
[06:35] <intelikey> well i'll rethink that.   M$ marketing == lie     yeah  you may have a point...
[06:35] <slacker403> well whatever
[06:35] <slacker403> MS makes solid products
[06:35] <slacker403> their server stuff is actually really good *if* you need it
[06:35] <slacker403> i use inux
[06:35] <intelikey> M$ owns you   not me.
[06:35] <slacker403> linux
[06:36] <slacker403> but by no means is thier stuff bad
[06:36] <slacker403> MS virtual server is really nice
[06:36] <elite101> help someone is floodinf a channel and the admin is not awake!!! :(
[06:36] <intelikey> your openion  not mine.
[06:36] <slacker403> linux  can open more options though
[06:36] <intelikey> elite101 ignore them.
[06:36] <elite101> okay
[06:37] <intelikey> elite101 /ignore uesrname@*
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> easiest way to fix channel spam :P
[06:37] <intelikey> elite101 but if you   /ignore *@*   it will get really quiet  :)
[06:38] <yotsuya> Help with skim, anyone?
[06:39] <Agent_bob> Agent_137 :)
[06:40] <Agent_137> Agent bob!
[06:40] <yotsuya> It keeps resetting to "Unknown"
[06:40] <Agent_137> WHile the new Get Smart movie is not the source of my alias, i'm excited nonetheless.
[06:40] <aldcor> aldcor
[06:41] <Agent_bob> lol
[06:41] <Agent_bob> i didn't even know there was a new "get smart"  but i liked the old show when i was a kid
[06:41] <aldcor> aldcor
[06:42] <Agent_bob> daavis what give dude ?
[06:43] <Agent_137> yea, i loved the old show. you know the get smart guy was also the voice for inspector gadget (the old cartoon, not the movie)
[06:43] <Agent_bob> yes indeed
[06:44] <Agent_bob> wait i have to answer my shoe
[06:44] <Agent_bob> i guess he was the first guy to have a cell phone
[06:45] <Agent_bob> maxwell smart  i mean
[06:45] <Agent_137> hahah
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> remember a few years back when they tried to bring that show back?
[06:47] <Agent_bob> but the coolest cat ever   had to be the work of "blake edwards"
[06:47] <Agent_bob> hitmanWilly i didn't know they did
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> Agent_bob: not surprised, it lasted all of like 3 episodes and royally sucked
[06:48] <Agent_bob> lol
[06:48] <Agent_bob> then i'm glad i missed it
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> oh well, screw it, ill play along
[06:49] <Agent_86> :)
[06:49] <Agent_bob> but you fellows are way behind really   i have had this nick registered for years now.
[06:50] <Agent_bob> na na nana na     </ticks out tongue>  :P
[06:50] <Agent_86> yeah, yeah, yeah...
[06:52] <Agent_bob> i wish someone would ask a linux question   and save us from further imbarisment
[06:52] <Agent_86> ok, back to normal mode now
[06:52] <dsmith> haha
[06:52] <dr_willis> :)
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: probably, if its a ppc architecture
[06:53] <dr_willis> yea - but  i havent seen any mention of that yet.
[06:53] <intelikey> dr_willis at least the tux ....
[06:53] <dr_willis> AppleTV isent ppc. apple' are not PPC any more :)
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> oh yeah, they're x86 now like everyone else
[06:54] <dr_willis> but every time i hear mention of linux on a Apple, they always talk about that virtual thinggie. :)
[06:54] <dr_willis> Just looking for my next pc. :)  a little appletv/linux box would be amuseing.
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> heh, even sun is doing x86 now
[06:55] <chaotic_> just get a mac mini lol
[06:55] <intelikey> something wrong with the present box ?
[06:55] <Viking667> Good evening. I'm looking for information on rebuilding the kde menus, except I can't find what I'm needing.
[06:56] <intelikey> kmenueditor
[06:56] <dsmith> right clikc on the K and click on meni editor
[06:56] <intelikey> or kmenuedit
[06:56] <dsmith> *menu editor
[06:56] <dr_willis> intelikey,  its like 4+ yrs old. and slowly dieing off. :)
[06:57] <Viking667> no, you aren't getting me. I've already seen that, and it doesn't rebuild the entirety of apps under /usr/share/menu
[06:57] <intelikey> dr_willis hmm  then should i replace my 12 year old stuff   it's 3X that
[06:57] <dr_willis> intelikey,  ive slowly been getting rid of my old junk. :)
[06:58] <dr_willis> trying to consolidate the things i dont need.
[06:58] <Viking667> i.e. there's a stack of stuff under /usr/share/menu, some gets included, some doesn't and there's no real indication of what KDE is supposed to pull in.
[06:58] <Viking667> i.e. I am supposed to have a Gnome submenu, but I don't.
[06:58] <Viking667> I'm supposed to have a entry for "xpenguins" under "Games/Toys", but again, I don't.
[06:59] <intelikey> Viking667 tried installing  menu ?
[06:59] <Viking667> intelikey: I'll have a look at that, it seems to have been missed off this box.
[06:59] <dr_willis> gnome submenu? hmm - i dont recall seeing that.
[07:00] <dsmith> all my gnome apps have always intermixed with my kde ones
[07:00] <Viking667> well, I've got gnome applications that don't turn up in the menu... sorry to bang on about it
[07:00] <Viking667> heh.
[07:00] <intelikey> Viking667 it makes the 'debian' submenu that will include those things
[07:00] <Viking667> ahh, I see now.
[07:00] <draik> Does the Ubuntu server have a GUI?
[07:00] <dsmith> no
[07:00] <dr_willis> draik,  if you count the console.. :)
[07:01] <dsmith> lol
[07:01] <intelikey> draik the server install    no
[07:01] <Viking667> right. So apps get mixed in. where does the user rebuild his/her/its menus from?
[07:01] <dsmith> cmdline GUI
[07:01] <draik> How do I manager anything?
[07:01] <dsmith> SUDO
[07:01] <Viking667> err, that's not a GUI as such.
[07:01] <Viking667> draik: hah! Like I do - by memorising about a hundred commands.
[07:01] <dsmith> sudo this and sudo that...
[07:01] <dr_willis> learn to use the shell. :)
[07:02] <dr_willis> or find some fancy frontend tools.
[07:02] <intelikey> draik manager whaty ?
[07:02] <draik> Is there a good book?
[07:02] <dsmith> oh toss in rm, mkdir and mv
[07:02] <intelikey> !cli
[07:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:02] <dr_willis> 'using bash' by Oreialy.
[07:02] <pedro> okay, so if used automatix to install things, but then removed all that software using automatix, then uninstalled automatix AND removed its repos, is there even a *HINT* of a chance of that screwing up my system when i do, say, a dist-upgrade or something?
[07:02] <dr_willis> is a must get. :)
[07:02] <dr_willis> pedro,  sadly YES...
[07:02] <intelikey> http://www.tldp.org
[07:02] <pedro> noooooooooooo!!!
[07:02] <pedro> i didnt want to hear that
[07:02] <Viking667> also, Linux in a nutshell (by O'Reilly)
[07:02] <neusonce> i hate windows, if programs ever become self aware windows would be like a jew walking in to nazi germany.
[07:03] <dr_willis> pedro,  but i will admit that i RARELY upgrade. i tend to keep /home on its own drive. and do clean reinstalls.
[07:03] <pedro> me too
[07:03] <dsmith> pedro: do clean reinstalls
[07:03] <pedro> yeah
[07:03] <pedro> erm... thought that was a question
[07:03] <Viking667> I've got a copy of UNIX in a nutshell, and it's been one of my most useful books
[07:03] <pedro> anyway, is it safe to say that i am at least safe for now?
[07:04] <intelikey> draik rute-book
[07:04] <intelikey> !info rute-book
[07:04] <intelikey> !info rutebook
[07:04] <ubotu> Package rute-book does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:04] <ubotu> rutebook: Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online book. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (feisty), package size 5468 kB, installed size 8264 kB
[07:04] <dr_willis> Viking667,  i got several old copies of that. :)
[07:04] <elite101> how do i download from a fttp:// site? it shows a folder's and files for DSL do i just copy and paste to desktop??
[07:05] <dr_willis> elite101,  ya could..
[07:05] <dr_willis> or drag/drop
[07:05] <elite101> so it can work like that
[07:05] <dr_willis> thats one way to do it..
[07:05] <intelikey> or wget    or even use    ftp
[07:05] <dr_willis> wget might be a better way
[07:05] <elite101> but it reads all the files as being 9.7gb and its DSL linux :S
[07:05] <Viking667> dr_willis: lol. of which? I seem to have the 1994 version (featured Solaris 2.0!!)
[07:05] <elite101> i dont even have that big of a hdd
[07:05] <neusonce> god i love ubuntu, i just wish  java would work.
[07:06] <Viking667> hrm? It doesn't for you?
[07:06] <intelikey> !java | neusonce you did read this ?
[07:06] <ubotu> neusonce you did read this ?: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:06] <elite101> well i got everything working now just expermenting some distro's
[07:06] <dr_willis> Viking667,  i always get my linux books on the bargin bins. :) they are out of date befor i even get them home
[07:06] <Viking667> dr_willis: ewww.
[07:07] <elite101> lol
[07:07] <dr_willis> but the Fundamentals are still the same.
[07:07] <elite101> or Linux for Dummies?
[07:07] <elite101> is that good
[07:07] <dr_willis> any book with 'dummies' or 'idiot' in the title - is not worth taking home
[07:07] <Viking667> It's ironic - the biggest book wife bought for me, was the one I used the least. The smallest computer book she bought, is the one I've used the most.
[07:07] <Viking667> elite101: be wary of those books.
[07:07] <elite101> why?
[07:07] <Viking667> they're more "monkey see, monkey do" books...
[07:07] <elite101> i have the whole series
[07:07] <elite101> lol
[07:07] <intelikey> dr_willis yeah generally should read   writen by *
[07:08] <elite101> no i dont
[07:08] <dr_willis> intelikey,  when they discuss how to upgrade from the 1.0 to 2.0 kernel... :) its a bad sign
[07:08] <Viking667> i.e. see what's on this screen, type that in, and wow cool, you're a guru
[07:08] <elite101> i dont even no that?
[07:08] <elite101> 1.0 to 2.0?
[07:08] <Viking667> dr_willis: lol. I started with 1.0.9...
[07:08] <dr_willis> but ya can occasionaly get some good OLD-Skool Info in some of those books
[07:08] <intelikey> dr_willis not really.  learning how to do that will help a lot in some respects
[07:08] <dr_willis> I got some RedHatbook thats basicially a Printout of 90% of the man pages that exist.
[07:09] <elite101> ohh lol the 90's book witht he guy with the black and white photos on the old comadore with the comeover
[07:09] <dr_willis> intelikey,  better to learn to do it with what ya got.
[07:09] <elite101> combover**
[07:09] <dr_willis> I do have some very old "linux kernel' books - that look like they were written with Troff. :)
[07:09] <elite101> hey cna u guys view youtube videos?
[07:09] <dr_willis> now thats old-skool
[07:09] <dr_willis> elite101,  i see them just fine
[07:09] <intelikey> dr_willis with any kernel really   the process hasn't really changed that much,   only the tools have grown
[07:09] <elite101> i have linux books ritten in dos
[07:09] <Viking667> elite101: I can, yes... though I have to dance a little to do so
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> elite101: just fine over here
[07:11] <intelikey> elite101  DOS == disk operating system  (R) micro soft trade mark
[07:11] <elite101> does this make any sense to you what so ever??? please tell me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY8Wi7XRXCA
[07:12] <slacker403> how do i instal the kubuntu server thing again where i just want a base and nothing more ?
[07:12] <elite101> please view dont worry its about computers
[07:12] <slacker403> kubuntu alternate is the same size as the desktop
[07:12] <intelikey> writen in "dos"  ???
[07:12] <elite101> lol nvm im dumb
[07:13] <elite101> who knows
[07:13] <elite101> but does that youtube video make anysense what so ever
[07:13] <dr_willis> elite101,  hes making a dish antanna out of Al. Foil and a plastic bowl
[07:13] <elite101> lmao
[07:13] <elite101> its way to fake
[07:13] <elite101> with teh phone thing
[07:14] <elite101> and ethernet cord like c'mon
[07:14] <dr_willis> I dident listen to it.
[07:15] <draik> intelikey: I installed rutebook. How do I read/access it?
[07:15] <dsmith> lol
[07:15] <dsmith> hmmmm, I will have to ry that
[07:15] <dsmith> just one time to see if it does work
[07:15] <Viking667> it's a series of webpages.
[07:15] <Viking667> sorry, that was to draik
[07:15] <dr_willis> it does seemt o be a 'joke video'
[07:16] <dr_willis> cd /usr/share/doc/rutebook/
[07:16] <intelikey> draik it's in html format you have a w3b cli based web browser installed    to see where the files actually are use this command     dpkg -L rutebook | grep index
[07:16] <dr_willis> I think it would be nice if all these web-books/docs could be accessde a little easier.. Hmm
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> let's say i were going to buy a laptop.
[07:16] <dr_willis> wonder if there is a kioslave for that.
[07:16] <elite101> what happens if by accedent u hit xkill and click on the desktop and u it goes to a black screen with just a cursor???
[07:16] <intelikey> draik then   w3b that file
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> who makes laptops and doesn't, you know, suck.
[07:17] <dr_willis> elite101,  then you hit alt-ctrl-backspace and restart X :)
[07:17] <intelikey> or is it w3m
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> dell, maybe a toshica
[07:17] <intelikey> w3[tab] 
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> toshiba, too!
[07:17] <Viking667> well, there's possibly a way to embed "lynx -dump" into a window?
[07:17] <elite101> okay
[07:17] <elite101> thanks
[07:17] <intelikey> draik w3[tab] 
[07:17] <Viking667> "links", or lynx, dillo, w3m
[07:17] <intelikey> :)
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> (toshica is the cheap hong kong ripoff, like sorny and samsang)
[07:18] <intelikey> Viking667 links2 or elinks
[07:18] <intelikey> Viking667 there isn't actually a "links" anymore
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> Viking667: i like w3m myself
[07:19] <dr_willis> Hmm.. looking at some parts for my next pc..    What the heck is this HUGE heatsink in the middle of the motherboard? its not the cpu.
[07:19] <dr_willis> http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/pix/dp35dp_lg.jpg
[07:19] <elite101> lol so i try it
[07:19] <intelikey> but not with the default colour set      <pukes<
[07:19] <dsmith> ok that youtube video is BS, I just watched another one
[07:19] <elite101> stupid me
[07:19] <elite101> lol
[07:19] <elite101> i know
[07:19] <elite101> i love his intros though to the video
[07:19] <dsmith> "electrical tape" is called electrical tape as it conducts electricity...lmao
[07:19] <dsmith> good intros, yes
[07:19] <dsmith> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brdmnUBAS00&NR=1
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: onboard gpu?
[07:20] <elite101> lol the mindsweeper one
[07:20] <elite101> doesnt work
[07:20] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  the mb specs dnt seem to indicate it has that.. wonder if its for the memory controller.
[07:20] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  thats a quadcore mb. :) Tigerdirect has it in a special deal this week
[07:21] <elite101> lmao recharge batterys
[07:21] <dr_willis> $600 for a bearbones Quadcore system
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: oh yeah, they sent me an email about that :)
[07:21] <Daisuke_Ido> passive chipset cooling.
[07:21] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  : ) i got them on my RSS feeds
[07:21] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  debating using it for my next linux box.
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, back to the laptop question
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> im an AMD kinda guy :P
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> any that you would recommend more than others?
[07:22] <elite101> im intel celeron
[07:22] <elite101> fasts CPU
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> celeron != fast :\
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> celeron == cheap commodity junk
[07:22] <elite101> lol
[07:22] <intelikey> i'm thinking of taking the vidio card out of this one box to make room for the fifth nic,   any chance that it will somehow break things ???
[07:23] <dr_willis> Laptops are all about your Budget.. :)
[07:23] <dvm> How to update the label widget dynamically in gtk?
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: does it have onboard? or are you just going to ssh in?
[07:24] <dr_willis> intelikey,  problemi had with a headless server, was once it lost power in a storm, and had a hd issue.. i had to hook up a monitor to realize that was whyit wasent booting properly.
[07:24] <intelikey> no
[07:24] <elite101> is it true that True intel prossecors are faster than celeron even with the same Ghz frequency?
[07:24] <dr_willis> bit of a bother. so now i keep a cheap montior handy. for just such emergancies
[07:24] <dr_willis> elite101,  i belive they offer more preformance.
[07:25] <intelikey> dr_willis k  indeed,   but if i set fsck to auto fix everything and reboot    will that cover power fail ?
[07:25] <dr_willis> the use of the term 'faster' can get confusing.
[07:25] <dr_willis> intelikey,  unless fsck fails, and wants/asks you to do somthing.
[07:25] <dr_willis> intelikey,  ive noticed inteh past ive broken things myself by messing up myfstab also. :)
[07:25] <stdin> elite101: not exactly, depends on the task. celerons have less pages of programming in them
[07:26] <dr_willis> intelikey,  i belive it normally asks 'hit ctrl-d to continue' or root pasword for shell.. or somthing like that.
[07:26] <intelikey> dr_willis heh not in my init scripts it don't   lol
[07:26] <dr_willis> intelikey,  so... if the thing ever fails to boot. you will have to put in a video card, and monitor to see why. which may be a bit of a hassle
[07:26] <intelikey> don't forget that is where i play the most
[07:26] <dr_willis> Im always swaping drives around, and forget to fix the fstabs befor i reboot.
[07:27] <intelikey> yeah that can be major malfunction
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> anyway, night all
[07:27] <stdin> dr_willis: that's why UUID's are nuce
[07:27] <dr_willis> But moving drives internally, works fine. since the fstab is using uuid
[07:27] <stdin> *nice
[07:27] <intelikey> i have gotten in a habbit of just rm /etc/fstab   and you don't have that
[07:27] <dr_willis> stdin,  moving them from one machine to another.. is not  as smart. :)
[07:27] <wnh001> hello all, I have an issue I was hoping you could help me out with
[07:27] <wnh001> when I boot into kubuntu
[07:28] <wnh001> it says that fsck is mounting a disk with errors
[07:28] <stdin> dr_willis: well, depends if you're booting off the disk you moved. it's worked ok for me (so far)
[07:28] <wnh001> it does this every time I boot
[07:29] <wnh001> any help?
[07:29] <dr_willis> stdin,  till it tried to mount a disk thats no longer there.. :) but the fstab says it is..
[07:29] <dr_willis> wnh001,  boot live cd. fsck the disk manually perhaps.
[07:29] <stdin> dr_willis: ahh, well that would be a problem :p
[07:29] <dr_willis> wnh001,  are you using windows xp, and that ext2-fs thing for windows?
[07:29] <intelikey> wnh001 i would reboot and at the grub prompt set  init=/bin/sh    then when it gets to the shell prompt run fsck on the root fs and see what is going on
[07:30] <wnh001> dr_willis: a friend of mine installed it recently... why?
[07:30] <intelikey> if none of that makes sense i'll just hush
[07:30] <aldcor> aldcor
[07:31] <stdin> yeah, that diver messed up one of my ext3 partitions a while ago
[07:31] <stdin> it's not 100% stable
[07:31] <stdin> (it's not even 50% IMO)
[07:31] <wnh001> OH MAN it didnt wreck anything did it?
[07:31] <wnh001> I mean I can still boot
[07:31] <stdin> fsck should fix it
[07:31] <dr_willis> wnh001,  IF windows has the linux drives mounted.. and windows crashes.. well it gets flagged as 'unmounted uncleanly' and a check is forced.
[07:31] <wnh001> this is constant
[07:31] <wnh001> everytime I boot
[07:31] <dr_willis> wnh001,  ive seen that issue on my own machines.
[07:32] <dr_willis> wnh001,  every time ya boot straight to windows eh?
[07:32] <dr_willis> err i mean linux. no windows at all
[07:32] <wnh001> no linux
[07:32] <wnh001> I had needed to move files from windows to ubuntu
[07:32] <wnh001> so my friend suggested that driver
[07:32] <stdin> wnh001: you know ubuntu can read from NTFS?
[07:32] <dr_willis> so ya boot linux, it checks the disks.. ya reboot and it still has to check .. eh.
[07:33] <stdin> wnh001: and write with the ntfs-3g driver
[07:33] <wnh001> no! stdin ! where were you when I needed you
[07:33] <wnh001> and it can be written to?!
[07:33] <stdin> wnh001: probably sleeping :p
[07:33] <dr_willis> wnh001,  thats a faq :)
[07:33] <dr_willis> heh heh..
[07:33] <stdin> !ntfs-3g
[07:33] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:33] <intelikey> !ntfs
[07:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:33] <dr_willis> !ntfs-config
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <wnh001> I didnt really know how to get onto irc
[07:33] <wnh001> but as you can see, im learning fast
[07:33] <dr_willis> ubuntu/kubuntu pages have a good forum section
[07:33] <lemon> hello everyone!... does anyone teach me how to change my bootscreen...
[07:34] <dr_willis> !slpash
[07:34] <dr_willis> !splash
[07:34] <wnh001> no one ever gets to tinker with my computer again
[07:34] <dr_willis> !bootsplash
[07:34] <intelikey> !usplash | lemon
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slpash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <ubotu> lemon: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[07:34] <dr_willis> we got way too many slash factouids
[07:34] <intelikey> amature
[07:34] <wnh001> dr_willis:  if I remove the driver and let fsck do its job will it be fixed
[07:34] <stdin> wnh001: but yeah, you can wither boot from the install cd and run fsck from there, or do what intelikey said. then it should be fixed
[07:34] <dr_willis> wnh001,  you can turn off the disks from windows control panel/ifs tool. BUT if you are not booting to windows in between, then thats not the problem
[07:35] <dr_willis> wnh001,  its possible windows dis somthing odd to the disks and they need to be checked manuyally
[07:35] <intelikey> wnh001 don't leave yet.
[07:35] <wnh001> intelikey: why?
[07:36] <stdin> wnh001: if you just want access to your windows files, linux can do that for you. if you want write access it takes a little more config, but it's not difficult. and more stable than the windows driver
[07:36] <intelikey> wnh001 it "could" be another drive / partition /file system     that is being mounted with errors
[07:36] <wnh001> point me in the right direction!
[07:36] <stdin> wnh001: tho you should always backup important data
[07:36] <intelikey> wnh001 would you care to pastebin your fstab file ?
[07:36] <wnh001> how intelikey
[07:36] <stdin> !paste
[07:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:36] <wnh001> no the fstab thing
[07:36] <intelikey> wnh001    cat /etc/fstabd
[07:37] <intelikey> wnh001    cat /etc/fstab
[07:37] <stdin> wnh001: open it in kate, then copy it to that website
[07:37] <stdin> or cat :p
[07:37] <stdin> whichever really
[07:37] <intelikey> or kedit or kword or nano  or .....
[07:37] <intelikey> openoffice even
[07:38] <dr_willis> fte, vi, vim, mcedit
[07:38] <stdin> kedit/kword aren't installed by default, and unless you have an hour for oo.o to open... :p
[07:38] <dr_willis> dd !
[07:38] <dr_willis> ed!
[07:38] <dr_willis> :)
[07:38] <intelikey> dr_willis or ted the joe
[07:38] <intelikey> :)
[07:38] <stdin> intelikey: or nopaste :)
[07:39] <intelikey> or echo $(<)
[07:39] <dr_willis> sed
[07:39] <wnh001> intelikey: dr_willis stdin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31034/
[07:39] <stdin> wnh001: heh, do you see your windows files in /media/sda2 ?
[07:40] <stdin> oh, and /media/sda1
[07:40] <wnh001> stdin windoes is in sda2
[07:40] <wnh001> and sda1
[07:40] <intelikey> ok you are forcing check on both vfat and ntfs  that's your error message
[07:41] <wnh001> intelikey: im not doing anything... this does it all by itself
[07:41] <intelikey> change the last digit from  1 to 0 on all but the root / partition
[07:41] <intelikey> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[07:41] <draik> How do I get out of rutebook?
[07:42] <intelikey> q
[07:42] <draik> intelikey: w3m
[07:42] <intelikey> q
[07:42] <draik> Thank you
[07:42] <wnh001> intelikey: which one is root?
[07:42] <intelikey>  /
[07:42] <stdin> wnh001: the one with ext3 on the line
[07:42] <intelikey> all others have  /something   but root is  /
[07:42] <wnh001> the one complaining of the errors
[07:43] <wnh001> ok I left root as 0 1
[07:43] <intelikey> yes and the others as 0 0   ?
[07:43] <wnh001> yes
[07:43] <intelikey> save and exit
[07:44] <wnh001> can I space these items out so that if this happens another time ill better know where to edit?
[07:44] <draik> intelikey: How do I manage/control Ubuntu Server?
[07:44] <intelikey> that should fix it.
[07:44] <stdin> draik: with the command line
[07:44] <intelikey> draik what part of it ?    what do you want to affect ?
[07:44] <wnh001> nvm
[07:44] <wnh001> thanks guys for releasing an awesome os like this one
[07:44] <intelikey> wnh001 yes you can.
[07:45] <draik> I'm not sure. I figured I'd have a GUI where I would have to manage users and such. I setup a LAMP server (instead of DNS)
[07:45] <stdin> draik: no, the server edition has no GUI
[07:45] <stdin> draik: you can install one tho
[07:45] <intelikey> draik users are added with   adduser
[07:45] <wnh001> intelikey: stdin thanks
[07:45] <draik> stdin: How so?
[07:45] <gandhiii> this video driver installing thing is more confusing than I had expected for 7.04
[07:45] <Viking667> I've been doing stuff via CLI so long it's .... almost (but not quite) etched in.
[07:45] <stdin> draik: depends, do you want just X or KDE/Gnome?
[07:45] <draik> intelikey: Thank you.
[07:46] <draik> stdin: KDE is possible
[07:46] <intelikey> draik sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core blackbox
[07:46] <Viking667> stuff on Debian I'm not so good at, not having it running all the time.
[07:46] <stdin> draik: just install the package "kubuntu-desktop"
[07:46] <intelikey> draik sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core kde
[07:46] <intelikey> if you prefer
[07:46] <stdin> intelikey: the kde package in kubuntu is a bit broke
[07:46] <intelikey> stdin in fiesty ?
[07:47] <gandhiii> I got the nvidia driver install from nvidia.com to work ..  but system settings/monitor and display is showing my graphics card as "VESA driver" and my monitor as "Custom 1"
[07:47] <intelikey> stdin in dapper it's fine
[07:47] <m0zone> hehe why does kubutu show my cpu speed wrong hehe
[07:47] <gandhiii> whats up?
[07:47] <stdin> intelikey: some of the kubuntu specific things (that kubuntu packages expect) don't get installed with "kde"
[07:47] <m0zone> shows my cpu speed at 1ghz  when its a 2.0 duel core
[07:48] <gandhiii> anyone experienced with getting a recent nvidia driver working?
[07:48] <stdin> m0zone: what does?
[07:48] <intelikey> stdin yeah kde doesn't install a lot of things that kubuntu-desktop does   that's one reason i recommend it
[07:48] <m0zone> when i look up cpu in kdeinfo it shows it wrong speed
[07:48] <m0zone> when i went to install it did also when i was lookin aty devices
[07:48] <stdin> intelikey: "kde" installs more packages than "kubuntu" tho :p
[07:48] <neusonce> can anybody tell me the name of the java file i need to get from the synaptic manger to get java to work
[07:49] <intelikey> by number yes by size no.
[07:49] <chaotic_> how does the whole aptitude  thing work
[07:49] <m0zone> shows 2 cpus at 1ghz each
[07:49] <chaotic_> is it like  apt-get
[07:49] <stdin> m0zone: what does "cat /proc/cpuinfo" show, post it to the pastebin site
[07:49] <m0zone> one sec  semi noob
[07:50] <intelikey> chaotic_ same as apt-get  in commandline mode   it also provides an ncurses frunt end  if called as    sudo aptitude
[07:50] <stdin> !aptitude
[07:50] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[07:50] <neusonce> !java
[07:50] <m0zone> posted it under m0zone
[07:50] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:51] <intelikey> chaotic_ if you don't know what an "ncurses" interface is you should run the command just for the exp.
[07:51] <stdin> m0zone: you need to post the URL here
[07:51] <Viking667> "pretty coloured text and windows drawn with line characters" == ncurses.
[07:51] <intelikey> m0zone you normally copy the url and post it here
[07:51] <m0zone> http://pastebin.com/d61d6260d
[07:51] <slacker403> how do i install a kubuntu base ? which image do i pick up ?
[07:51] <Viking667> even supports menus, pads, views...
[07:51] <m0zone> shows wrong there also same as kdeinfo
[07:51] <stdin> slacker403: kubuntu-desktop
[07:52] <gandhiii> i take it nobody here knows anything about nvidia drivers
[07:52] <gandhiii> ?
[07:52] <stdin> slacker403: huh? image?
[07:52] <Viking667> Right. Time I went... bye all.
[07:52] <riddler> how do you make xwindows not start automatically in kubuntu? i wanna have xwindows installed to use some times but mostly just want to startup right to console.
[07:52] <intelikey> Viking667 only thing that ncurses does that bash doesn't is lets you use the arrow keys to select text,  as far as i can see
[07:53] <chaotic_> i ran man aptitude
[07:53] <stdin> riddler: sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[07:53] <riddler> thank you
[07:53] <m0zone> i checked bios and windows to make sure nuffin was wrong before comeing here also
[07:53] <intelikey> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[07:54] <intelikey> i think that's the prefered methood
[07:54] <riddler> ok :)
[07:54] <intelikey> maybe needs -plow
[07:54] <stdin> nope, that won't stop it starting
[07:54] <intelikey> oh he's not switching from one dm to another ?
[07:55] <riddler> i dont want that little login screen coming up at boot
[07:55] <intelikey> sorry wasn't paying attention
[07:55] <riddler> :P
[07:55] <Daisuke_Ido> no, he's pulling an intelikey
[07:55] <Daisuke_Ido> cli all the way, baby!
[07:55] <slacker403> i want a base kubuntu with no desktop / extra stuff then i want ot install kde and its reuqired stuff but i dont want the other 200 apps
[07:55] <riddler> id rather just type startx when i wanna go in to xwindows
[07:55] <intelikey> riddler then the update line ^ is right.  sorry for not paging up and catching up.
[07:56] <riddler> thanks
[07:56] <intelikey> heh if he were really pulling an "intelikey" he would have just done   sudo apt-get remove --purge kdm
[07:57] <m0zone> i am wondering if i am getin fullspeed out of cpu doh
[07:57] <stdin> m0zone: seems that when AMD say it's a 2GHz CPU, they mean total, not per core
[07:57] <m0zone> oh when i look at it in bios its two 2ghz cores
[07:57] <draik> stdin: intelikey: Do you recommend any book with a great list, description and usage of the CLI?
[07:57] <stdin> !cli
[07:57] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:58] <m0zone> same with gigbyte mobo manager
[07:58] <draik> Well, not the CLI perse, but the commands available for the desktop and server
[07:58] <stdin> draik: that, and there's another too
[07:58] <intelikey> draik no.  but there are some pretty good docs on the web
[07:58] <draik> stdin: I mean like a physical book
[07:58] <stdin> book? hmm...
[07:58] <draik> I would really like something that I can read while I'm at work.
[07:58] <slacker403> does kubuntu - desktop run anythiong else besides linux kernel + kde .....is thier any other added stuff running ?
[07:58] <stdin> not really read any :p
[07:59] <flaccid> omg
[07:59] <Daisuke_Ido> check out the linux bible
[08:00] <stdin> m0zone: not sure then...
[08:00] <chaotic_> u dont know how many time  s i had to reinstall linux
[08:00] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido i did.  read several things in it that "simply don't work"  typos and other junk.  learned little (extreemly little)  and pitched it.
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i haven't read it, was just recommending based on the title
[08:01] <stdin> chaotic_: heh, sometimes I reinstall just because I'm bored :p
[08:01] <chaotic_> broke the  system like 2     times installing unsupported stuff
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> so i guess in a lot of ways (inaccuracies, complete falsehoods) it really lives up to its name!
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> two?
[08:01] <intelikey> chaotic_ i know about how many.   3
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> that's it?
[08:01] <chaotic_> the more  u configure the more likely to break ur system
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> not true
[08:02] <stdin> there are other ways to fix than a reinstall too
[08:02] <chaotic_> hey im still doing  it
[08:02] <Daisuke_Ido> the more you configure *and know what you're doing and why you're doing it*, the less likely you are to break your system.
[08:02] <intelikey> chaotic_ but i have installed linux about over 300 times,   so don't think that a hand full of installs is a big deal.
[08:02] <chaotic_> the poing of  configuring is that u dont kno ur  trying to learn how
[08:02] <chaotic_>  and when u dont know
[08:03] <Daisuke_Ido> "you"
[08:03] <chaotic_>  u dont know when u break it either till u reboot
[08:03] <stdin> that's what forums/IRC/google are for, research helps
[08:03] <intelikey> chaotic_ then don't reboot
[08:03] <Daisuke_Ido> really, it's only three letters, it's not like typing the full text of war and peace :)
[08:03] <intelikey> :)
[08:04] <Lynoure> chaotic_: keep backups of the configurations.
[08:04] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido draik was asking show him
[08:04] <draik> ???
[08:04] <Lynoure> chaotic_: and learn to restore them. That should keep you from most urges to reinstall. :)
[08:05] <intelikey> sirdaz.com/lin/
[08:05] <jussi01> intelikey: 300 times? wtf?
[08:05] <Daisuke_Ido> ...whoops ^_^
[08:05] <intelikey> jussi01 yeah    been at it a while ya know.
[08:05] <Lynoure> jussi01: Not that unreasonable number, in long term.
[08:06] <intelikey> and many boxen
[08:06] <jussi01> well i suppose it depends how much you like fixing bugs in your system...
[08:06] <intelikey> and how many systems you go through
[08:07] <intelikey> lets see slackware redhat mandrake debian ubuntu and seems like i'm skipping one....
[08:07] <jussi01> intelikey: true...
[08:07] <jussi01> pclinuxos?
[08:07] <intelikey> no
[08:07] <jussi01> fedora?
[08:07] <stdin> and how many HDDs fry due to freak power surges
[08:08] <intelikey> it was before fedora
[08:08] <Daisuke_Ido> suse?
[08:08] <intelikey> oh it wasn't linux    plan9
[08:08] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh
[08:08] <Daisuke_Ido> everything's a file!
[08:08] <intelikey> i didn't stay with glinda long
[08:09] <intelikey> not to mention that linux for windows thing what's it called ?
[08:09] <jussi01> linspire?
[08:09] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[08:09] <intelikey> no
[08:09] <Daisuke_Ido> it runs in a disk image
[08:09] <intelikey> cygwin
[08:10] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, that.
[08:10] <stdin> intelikey: there's Cooperative Linux too
[08:10] <stdin> another linux4win thing
[08:10] <jussi01> lol... anyway... we should talk support... or we will get !offtopic-ed
[08:10] <intelikey> stdin yeah.  there is even a ubuntu windows installer
[08:10] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't even count the number of OSes i've toyed with...
[08:10] <jussi01> !offtopic
[08:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:11] <jussi01> :)
[08:11] <stdin> all the ops are busy chatting about amazon in -ops :p
[08:11] <Daisuke_Ido> well, i can, it would take a while
[08:11] <intelikey> jussi01 if you don't mention it no one will notice  :)
[08:11] <jussi01> intelikey: lol...
[08:11] <Daisuke_Ido> os/2 (2 through warp 4)...  wasn't impressed.  BeOS.  looked nice, nothing worked :\
[08:11] <jussi01> stdin: yeah, jdongs radar detector thing... :P
[08:11] <stdin> yeah
[08:12] <stdin> i'm 1/2 tempted to get one :p
[08:12] <jussi01> hheeh
[08:13] <intelikey> i think i also had the record for using /me the most...
[08:14] <intelikey> err
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> shouldn't that...  yeah
[08:14] <jussi01> lol
[08:14] <stdin> 15811
[08:15] <stdin> that's after rm'ing that a while ago
[08:15] <intelikey> jussi01 i never have bothered,  but some unnamed jucato pointed me at it several times
[08:17] <intelikey> i don't even remember the url with all the kubuntu stats
[08:17] <stdin> umm
[08:17] <stdin> !logs
[08:17] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[08:17] <intelikey> !stats
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <stdin> hmm, what is it...
[08:18] <intelikey> stdin there is a page some places with "triva" stats on this channel
[08:19] <intelikey> i bet you are a high ranking oo boo naut  also
[08:20] <neusonce> !flash
[08:20] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:23] <chaotic_> finally got office 03   working with
[08:23] <chaotic_> crossover
[08:23] <stdin> intelikey: http://ubuntustats.homelinux.org/ i think, tho I don't think it's working
[08:24] <flaccid> it would be good if IE7 ran under crossover/wine or anything!
[08:24] <flaccid> if anyone knows if its possible yet, i'd love to know
[08:24] <stdin> ewww IE7
[08:25] <intelikey> 404'd on me.
[08:25] <flaccid> yeah stdin. just need the enviro for testing
[08:25] <stdin> flaccid: afaik, IE7 is built in to the windows OS now. so I don't think you can
[08:25] <jlund> flaccid: One option would be to run it using VMWare, Xen, KVM, etc.
[08:26] <flaccid> stdin: yeah but everything is built into the windows OS - its either registry or dll/flat file anyway. i'm sure it can be reversed by someone
[08:27] <flaccid> jlund: got that going already, im just lazy to open my virtualisation :)
[08:27] <stdin> flaccid: no, I mean it's part of kernel32
[08:27] <stdin> as in, really built in to the OS
[08:27] <flaccid> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/news/28
[08:27] <aldcor> aldcor
[08:27] <jlund> jlund
[08:27] <flaccid> stdin: not according to what i've search in google
[08:28] <flaccid> http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/2006-September/023434.html
[08:29] <flaccid> hmm that project going good.. http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/news/
[08:29] <aldcor> aldcor
[08:31] <Neil3> mornin
[08:33] <intelikey> stdin me and google never see eye to I so it's hardly proof but i can't find the page anymore and "jucato" might have taken it with him for all i know...
[08:35] <intelikey> oh stdin i have tested that script on both server and client end and it seems to work flawlessly for me.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38428
[08:36] <intelikey> draik you might be interested in that also if you are adminning a server now.
[08:36] <stdin> intelikey: I had an idea about that earlier, you *could* add -y to apt-get, for a more "automated" install
[08:36] <ardchoille> !dma
[08:36] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[08:36] <m0zone> weee i figured out  why it was showin cpu wrong  plus gained  alot of speed
[08:37] <tutu> hi
[08:37] <intelikey> stdin yeah but i really didn't want to cut the user out altogather if they didn't have something installed
[08:37] <m0zone> if u have cool and quite on  it will not show correct cpu speed nor use all of the cpus power wee
[08:38] <intelikey> stdin i even considered using read -p'can i install blah'  in there.
[08:39] <intelikey> stdin if you want to tweek it and post it some place feel free i'm just making avalable what i actually use.
[08:40] <stdin> intelikey: it seems fine to me, dose it's job and not to messy :p
[08:40] <intelikey> ty
[08:41] <niko_> hi to all
[08:41] <niko_> some help?
[08:41] <intelikey> no help
[08:41] <intelikey> :)
[08:42] <niko_> well
[08:42] <niko_> i commit a suicide???
[08:42] <intelikey> what ya need ?
[08:42] <niko_> ahahah
[08:42] <niko_> rep
[08:42] <niko_> more more rep
[08:42] <niko_> i wanna to write the lyrics
[08:42] <niko_> of my song
[08:42] <niko_> into tag id3
[08:43] <niko_> can u help me?
[08:43] <niko_> #kubuntu-it
[08:43] <intelikey> actually i can't.  i've never messed with that.  but maybe someone can
[08:43] <niko_> i remeber
[08:43] <intelikey> stdin you ?
[08:43] <niko_> that on open suse there was a program who can do that
[08:43] <stdin> i think amarok or easytags do it
[08:44] <niko_> stdin
[08:44] <stdin> !info easytags
[08:44] <ubotu> Package easytags does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:44] <stdin> !info easytag
[08:44] <ubotu> easytag: viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 788 kB, installed size 2552 kB
[08:44] <stdin> that should
[08:44] <niko_> amarok i don't konw
[08:44] <niko_> easy tag doesn't
[08:44] <intelikey> there you go.            ^   easytag
[08:45] <stdin> and amaok, in the Lyrics tab :p
[08:45] <niko_> easy tag it's great for all the rest of info
[08:45] <niko_> well
[08:45] <niko_> thanx
[08:45] <niko_> the last question
[08:45] <stdin> no problem :)
[08:45] <scotty> what's the konsole command to move a file? like I have a file in ~/Desktop/gemini/ called gemini.py. What's the console command to move it to usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins/
[08:45] <scotty> ?
[08:45] <niko_> i'm looking for multimedia-repository
[08:45] <intelikey> scotty mv
[08:45] <niko_> do u can suggest me someone?
[08:45] <scotty> thanks
[08:46] <niko_> scotty mv?
[08:46] <scotty> intelikey: So it's just sudo mv ~/Desktop/gemini/gemini.py usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins/
[08:46] <scotty> is that correct?
[08:46] <dvm> How to pass more than one argument to a callback function in gtk?
[08:47] <scotty> yep
[08:47] <scotty> thanks
[08:47] <yintelike> no you need the preceeding slash on usr/       /usr/*
[08:47] <yintelike> sorry modem reset
[08:48] <intelikey> back
[08:48] <niko_> hey
[08:48] <niko_> and then?
[08:48] <niko_> noone knows some repository for multimdie progs?
[08:49] <intelikey> niko_ mediabuntu
[08:49] <niko_> multimedia sorry
[08:49] <niko_> but i need only the rep!
[08:49] <intelikey> !media
[08:49] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:49] <intelikey> !mediabuntu
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <niko_> mediabuntu use fluxbox?
[08:49] <intelikey> !medibuntu
[08:49] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[08:49] <intelikey> there it is.
[08:50] <intelikey> scotty all well ?
[08:50] <ice9> Hello! I am the scorpion king!
[08:50] <intelikey> he asked
[08:51] <intelikey> ice9 heh big woop
[08:51] <intelikey> :)
[08:51] <scotty> intelikey: Yeah, I'm good
[08:52] <intelikey> as i recall the movie you got that form, the dude aint all that ice9   :)
[08:52] <ice9> hm?
[08:53] <intelikey> ah nothing.   maybe your referance was to something else...
[08:53] <ice9> ice9 = kurt vonnegut's Cats Cradle
[08:54] <stdin> woot, CPU freq scaling finally works for me :)
  still speeking different languages.    how about we meet at shell scripting ?
[08:55] <intelikey> stdin kernel update ?
[08:55] <stdin> intelikey: no, I just found the right module :p
[08:55] <intelikey> oh  heh
[08:55] <niko_> stdin
[08:55] <intelikey> yeah that'll do it.
[08:56] <niko_> i'v another one trouble
[08:56] <niko_> ktorrent
[08:56] <niko_> when i start a DL
[08:56] <niko_> it reports to me an error
[08:56] <stdin> what error?
[08:56] <niko_> i translate from italian
[08:57] <niko_> "impossible to create the simbolic link.....   .... function not permitted"
[08:57] <niko_> i've setted
[08:58] <niko_> the the directory
[08:58] <stdin> humm? where are you saving the download to?
[08:58] <flaccid> you might need root to make symlinks in certain places
[08:59] <intelikey> cant copy to what you don't own
[08:59] <flaccid> depending on the parent dirs perms
[09:00] <niko_> well
[09:00] <niko_> how can i solve the thing?
[09:00] <stdin> where are you saving the download to?
[09:00] <intelikey> save to $HOME
[09:00] <niko_> even if i launch
[09:00] <niko_> kterrent
[09:00] <niko_> with kdesu
[09:00] <niko_> it reports the same thing
[09:00] <niko_> but
[09:01] <stdin> niko_: keep it on one line
[09:01] <flaccid> have you googled the problem niko?
[09:01] <intelikey> that doesn't sound like a good idea  "kdesu ktorrent"  ????
[09:01] <niko_> if i chose a file system different from fat/fat32 & ntfs....
[09:01] <niko_> like ext3
[09:01] <flaccid> you can't symlink on fat/ntfs parts
[09:01] <niko_> nooooooooo
[09:01] <niko_> eheheh
[09:01] <flaccid> if a program needs to symlink, it has to be on an fs that supports it
[09:01] <intelikey> niko_ yes M$ file systems can have symbolic links
[09:02] <flaccid> eg. ext2, ext3, ufs etc.
[09:02] <niko_> i can't!!!!
[09:02] <intelikey> can't
[09:02] <flaccid> intelikey: since when
[09:02] <flaccid> oh
[09:02] <intelikey> can't
[09:02] <flaccid> soz
[09:02] <niko_> ahahah
[09:02] <niko_> well
[09:02] <intelikey> typo
[09:02] <flaccid> :)
[09:02] <niko_> so i've to create a partition
[09:02] <niko_> with ext2...3.... etc etc???
[09:02] <flaccid> your linux install will be ext
[09:03] <flaccid> the / part
[09:03] <niko_> with a linux file system?
[09:03] <niko_> sure
[09:03] <intelikey> or you could make a file system in a file and mount it...
[09:03] <_modem> hi there. anyone have experience with a MTP device in Amarok?
[09:03] <niko_> wath?
[09:03] <niko_> it sounds good
[09:03] <niko_> can u explain?
[09:03] <niko_> it's like an emulation?
[09:03] <stdin> no
[09:03] <evjunior09> Anyone Know any good Photo Editors?
[09:03] <evjunior09> Free
[09:04] <flaccid> !info gimp
[09:04] <ubotu> gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu4.2 (feisty), package size 2899 kB, installed size 7920 kB
[09:04] <stdin> gimp's free
[09:04] <ardchoille> evjunior09: gimp is quite nice
[09:04] <evjunior09> sudo apt-get install gimp?
[09:04] <pag> _modem, could you plese be more specific?
[09:04] <niko_> so
[09:04] <ardchoille> evjunior09: yes
[09:04] <scotty> How do you upload a file via FTP in konsole? I'm connected to my server and I realize how to change directories and stuff.
[09:04] <scotty> Just not sure how to upload
[09:04] <niko_> explain wath do u mean with make a file system on a file?
[09:04] <flaccid> scotty: put
[09:04] <scotty> flaccid: ah!
[09:04] <scotty> thanks
[09:04] <flaccid> scotty: google ftp tutorial i guess
[09:05] <flaccid> np
[09:05] <flaccid> its put and get iirc
[09:05] <evjunior09> Thanks guys
[09:05] <flaccid> time for home... i just got notified dsl2+ is ready on my exchange
[09:05] <ardchoille> evjunior09: If you're going to get serious in the gimp, I recommend also installing: gimp-data-extras
[09:05] <_modem> oh, ok. I have a Creative Zen V Plus player, Amarok detects the device (I can see the songs) but I can't transfer any file. The process fails. With Gnomad2 I don't have any problem
[09:06] <evjunior09> What extra's are you talking about
[09:06] <ardchoille> evjunior09: apt-cache search --names-only gimp-data-extras
[09:06] <ardchoille> that'll give you a short desc
[09:07] <Apollo_> Apollo1
[09:07] <intelikey> niko_ example: dd if=/dev/zero of=~/myextfs bs=1024 count=1000000 ;mke2fs myextfs ;mount -o loop myextfs ~/Desktop        (ok maybe you want another mountpoint)    that file can live anywhere.  you could put it on a vfat and then loop mount it and make links there     windows can mount and access it...      it's a thought.   not that it's the best way.
[09:07] <evjunior09> Okay i installed the Extras, so will it be automatically on GIMP?
[09:08] <ardchoille> yes
[09:08] <evjunior09> okay
[09:08] <pag> _modem, feisty?
[09:08] <_modem> yeap
[09:09] <_modem> and kubuntu
[09:09] <ardchoille> evjunior09: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/   http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/
[09:09] <intelikey> _modem then i sujest using  Gnomad2  ???
[09:09] <luca> hi everyone
[09:09] <ardchoille> hi luca
[09:09] <luca> can someone help me set up a kde4 session? :)
[09:10] <intelikey> !kde4
[09:10] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[09:10] <ardchoille> intelikey: What's with that second url?
[09:10] <luca> intelikey: thanks :)
[09:10] <intelikey> ardchoille i didn't do it     ?
[09:10] <ardchoille> lol
[09:11] <_modem> Yes intelikey, I don't have problems transfering mp3 with gnomad2, but I have to reset the plaver evertime :s
[09:11] <admin-r> hi
[09:12] <pag> _modem, looks like you have to compile couple of libs to get it working - I'd suggest you to stick with gnomad2 if it works, since compiling might be problematic
[09:12] <intelikey> _modem  i was just saying if a default app doesn't work for you and something else does     use what works.    and report any bugs in the defaults so maybe next release they work...
[09:13] <slacker403> how much extra crap does kubuntu desktop install ?
[09:13] <_modem> Yes, I know. I was using Gnomad2 for a time. It's ok
[09:13] <slacker403> all i want is a wrokable base system with kde no special stuff
[09:13] <intelikey> !bug | _modem
[09:13] <ubotu> _modem: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:13] <ardchoille> slacker403: on a 200gb hd, I'd say not much :)
[09:13] <pag> ardchoille, the secont url is just example: ie. http://phonon.kde.org  or http://solid.kde.org
[09:13] <slacker403> ardchoille, i really meant ram wise
[09:13] <stdin> _modem: what version of amarok?
[09:14] <ardchoille> pag: Glad you caught that.
[09:14] <ardchoille> slacker403: Oh, well I have 1gb ram and I don't think I've ever used my swap
[09:14] <_modem> stdin: 1.4.6
[09:15] <slacker403> ardchoille, still im jus trying ot gert my whole thing to run under 100 mb at first atleast
[09:15] <intelikey> tty3 [greg$~]  mem
[09:15] <intelikey> Memory Used/Total Percent: 8/250 MB (3%)
[09:15] <intelikey> Swap   Used/Total Percent: 0/0 MB (0%)
[09:15] <ardchoille> slacker403: 100mb of ram?
[09:15] <slacker403> i got 2 gb
[09:15] <scotty> intelikey: When trying to transfer a file via FTP, this happens:
[09:15] <scotty> ftp> put ~/test.html ftp.scottyblack.com/public_html/test.html
[09:15] <scotty> local: /home/scotty/test.html remote: ftp.scottyblack.com/public_html/test.html
[09:15] <scotty> 200 PORT command successful
[09:15] <scotty> 553 Rename/move failure: Not a directory
[09:16] <stdin> _modem: hmm, ok. it's a bug then. anyhing above 1.4.4 *should* work with it
[09:16] <scotty> what am I doing wrong?
[09:16] <ardchoille> intelikey: What did you install to be able to use that mem command?
[09:16] <slacker403> i just hope kubuntu desktop doesnt install and run any useless sevices that will bog down my memory
[09:16] <ardchoille> maybe that was a dumb question
[09:16] <intelikey> ardchoille it's a script
[09:16] <pag> scotty, try: to move file to ftp.scottyblack.com/public_html/  and dont write the file name
[09:16] <intelikey> ardchoille http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38429
[09:17] <ardchoille> I was just going to ask ;)
[09:17] <scotty> pag: You mean use the mv command instead of put?
[09:17] <ardchoille> intelikey: Thank you :)
[09:17] <_modem> thanks stdin
[09:17] <pag> scotty, I'm not too familiar with ftp... with what command did you try to move it at first?
[09:17] <scotty> 'put'
[09:18] <intelikey> scotty   dir   public_html
[09:18] <stdin> intelikey: I still like my insane awk script :p
[09:18] <scotty> intelikey: Instead of cd?
[09:19] <intelikey> i think that's what is erroring scotty the error message is just a little vague
[09:19] <intelikey> stdin :)
[09:19] <intelikey> stdin post it for ardchoille he can use it if he prefer
[09:19] <scotty> intelikey: I get: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
[09:20] <ardchoille> stdin: Yes, please do. I collect scripts.
[09:20] <stdin> ardchoille: ok, but I did warn you it's insane: http://stdin.pastebin.us/38430
[09:20] <kraut> moin
[09:20] <ardchoille> stdin: lol
[09:20] <ardchoille> stdin: lol, is that upside down?
[09:21] <stdin> ardchoille: told you :p  this is some sample output http://stdin.pastebin.us/38431
[09:21] <intelikey> scotty i've never setup a ftp server before so i'm not the "goto guy" on that one.  but it looks like a dir structure problem  or possable permissions issue on the dir.  dirs must be executable
[09:21] <scotty> intelikey: I can access everything fine with a GUI ftp program
[09:22] <intelikey> scotty that implies group permissions
[09:22] <stdin> ardchoille: I wrote that quite a while ago, notice all the "/1024" parts? I could have just added -m to "free"
[09:22] <stdin> :p
[09:22] <scotty> intelikey: How do I fix that?
[09:22] <intelikey> give it more public permission to read/exec
[09:24] <intelikey> i have setup sshd apache and cherokee servers but not ftpd   maybe it's time i did...
[09:24] <intelikey> oh and one fetch/sendmail server...   that's not fun tho.
[09:25] <stdin> ftpd seems to be a bit "bloatish" to me, when I can use ssh/sftp
[09:25] <intelikey> if i do set one up i think i'll use ncftp
[09:26] <scotty> intelikey: I figured it out
[09:26] <scotty> I had to enter passive mode
[09:26] <scotty> yay for watching KFTPGrabber's commands :P
[09:27] <intelikey> err maybe not.  doesn't seem to be an ncftpd
[09:27] <chaotic_> when crossover office installs  office 2003
[09:27] <intelikey> scotty ok  it was a client issue heh   nice way of saying "pebcak"  :)
[09:27] <chaotic_> where is it located
[09:27] <chaotic_> how  can i open it
[09:28] <ardchoille> stdin: It's nice, tho
[09:28] <scotty> intelikey: indeed.
[09:28] <intelikey> ardchoille do the two report the same info ?
[09:28] <_modem> thank you everyone. Now I'll go. bye
[09:28] <stdin> ardchoille: that's what I do when I'm bored. and in that case, I was very board :p
[09:30] <chaotic_> so
[09:30] <stdin> anyone looked at the bottom of http://ubuntuforums.org/ recently, at the most search keywords?
[09:30] <intelikey> not yet
[09:30] <intelikey> should i ?
[09:30] <intelikey> :)
[09:31] <stdin> well, yes :p
[09:32] <ardchoille> intelikey: No, they show different output
[09:32] <ardchoille> Interesting
[09:33] <ardchoille> intelikey, stdin http://stdin.pastebin.us/38432
[09:34] <stdin> ardchoille: and what does "free -om" show?
[09:34] <ardchoille> http://stdin.pastebin.us/38433
[09:34] <Arnl> Hey, I have a problem with usb. I'm was surfing on Firefox, and suddenly all of my usb devices rebooted, and now, when i plug my mouse, My pc freezes in 2 minutes. (And the usb mouse doesn't work well)
[09:35] <chilisauce> How do i change the console font size? mine is like 24pt for some reason.
[09:35] <Arnl> How can I fix this problem?
[09:35] <JunglPerv> hey guys I just bought a 64bit machine and  installed Kubuntu 7.04 64 and I'm having trouble installing Java
[09:35] <JunglPerv> for Firefox
[09:35] <ardchoille> chilisauce: Settings -> Font  ?
[09:35] <JunglPerv> can't seem to find a clear cut answer on the web
[09:35] <ardchoille> !java
[09:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:35] <intelikey> ardchoille would you care to pastebin   cat /proc/meminfo   so i can make sure i'm not displaying free in place of used
[09:36] <chilisauce> ardchoille: there is no settings menu in kmenu ;o
[09:36] <ardchoille> chilisauce: That's in konsole
[09:37] <chilisauce> k
[09:37] <chilisauce> im talking actual console not gui console
[09:37] <ardchoille> intelikey: http://stdin.pastebin.us/38434
[09:37] <intelikey> chilisauce consolechars
[09:38] <ardchoille> intelikey: Well, that's four different mem readings, lol
[09:40] <ardchoille> intelikey: If you update that script, please let me know as I would like an update
[09:40] <intelikey> ardchoille i stand by my script it is reporting the total and the (total minus free minus cached minus buffered)     no upgrade needed,
[09:41] <ardchoille> intelikey: Thank you :)
[09:41] <intelikey> your actual used memory is listed.
[09:41] <intelikey> note that that is "real in-use" memory.
[09:41] <ardchoille> 17%, not bad
[09:42] <chilisauce> is there any gui programs to edit the console font settings instead of using consolechars?
[09:44] <intelikey> chilisauce don't go off testing this without doing a little research  but i think you can   'dpkg-reconfigure console-data'  to set those type things...     that may not be the package so check into it.     dpkg -l | grep console
[09:44] <chilisauce> ok ill try
[09:44] <chilisauce> for some reason my fresh install the console fonts are like 30+ pt so i can onyl see like 20 chars total a line lol
[09:45] <intelikey> chilisauce oh. wait.  that's not the issue.
[09:45] <chilisauce> o
[09:45] <intelikey> you have a frame buffering problem
[09:45] <chilisauce> what causes this and how might i fix it?
[09:45] <intelikey> boot with something like    vga=0x0f05
[09:45] <chilisauce> oh ok
[09:46] <ardchoille> I put vga=791 in my kernel line and that made the fonts smaller and bigger res in consoles
[09:46] <chilisauce> cool
[09:47] <intelikey> chilisauce there is also   svgatextmode that can set the frame buffer on the fly  but it has to be configured for your hardware
[09:47] <ardchoille> iirc, that is 1024x768 res for console
[09:47] <intelikey> ummm 791 is  1024x768x4  i think
[09:47] <ardchoille> Yeah
[09:48] <chilisauce> what would the x4 be?
[09:48] <chilisauce> 4pt?
[09:48] <intelikey> 793 is  1024x768x16
[09:48] <intelikey> no bit
[09:48] <chilisauce> oh ok
[09:48] <intelikey> i like 788
[09:49] <intelikey> 800x600x16
[09:49] <intelikey> iirc.
[09:49] <chilisauce> i added vga=791 at the end of my grub boot string
[09:49] <chilisauce> is that the right place to add it?
[09:49] <ardchoille> I use screen+irssi+elinks+mutt+mc+bash a lot and 800x600 just wouldn't be good for me
[09:49] <intelikey> the kernel line  yes
[09:50] <chilisauce> ahh kernal line no wonder it didnt work ;p
[09:50] <ardchoille> chilisauce: Here's what I have:  kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=4ac0a6ed-8457-4501-bf06-6b6f10f6b0eb ro quiet vga=791
[09:50] <chilisauce> thanks :D
[09:50] <intelikey> ardchoille i get along with 0x0f05   text mode 80x30
[09:51] <intelikey> but don't use his root=  section of that   :)
[09:51] <ardchoille> right
[09:51] <chilisauce> 791 didnt work but 0x0f05 does ;)
[09:51] <intelikey> yeah that's text mode
[09:52] <chilisauce> little skinny, hehe try another setting
[09:52] <chilisauce> but alot better than it was
[09:52] <chilisauce> ;o
[09:52] <intelikey> that's why i mentioned it.  if frame buffering is not working correctly text mode is safe
[09:52] <chilisauce> ic
[09:52] <ardchoille> intelikey: Why did 791 not work for him but it works for me?
[09:52] <chilisauce> it said it couldnt find the setting or something
[09:52] <intelikey> graphics card
[09:53] <chilisauce> then gave me a list of hex settings
[09:53] <ardchoille> I don't use frame buffering
[09:53] <ardchoille> oh, graphics card, ok
[09:53] <intelikey> ardchoille ?    lsmod | grep fbcon
[09:53] <chilisauce> for some reason grub isnt saving the settings i added >_<
[09:53] <intelikey> me thinks ya do if you use vga=791
[09:54] <ardchoille> intelikey: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/38435
[09:54] <intelikey> chilisauce you'll have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:54] <chilisauce> oh ok
[09:54] <chilisauce> linux irc help has got alot better than it was like 6-7 years ago
[09:54] <chilisauce> lol
[09:54] <chilisauce> back then they would of said STFU READ THE MAN FILE
[09:55] <intelikey> ardchoille all the frame buffer modules are loaded in your kernel
[09:55] <ardchoille> chilisauce: the debian channel used to do that to me a lot
[09:55] <chilisauce> thats kinda why i never went to linux because it was hard to get a straight forward answer. linux carried a elitist additude for a long time
[09:55] <intelikey> chilisauce debian still does that
[09:55] <intelikey> :)
[09:55] <ardchoille> intelikey: Oh, ok. I select no when xserver-xorg reconfigure aksed me if I wanted framebuffering
[09:56] <ardchoille> intelikey: I'm not gonna worry about fb, everything works great here.
[09:56] <intelikey> ardchoille totally different thing.  it's asking if you want to use that as your xorg driver,  you are already using it in the console
[09:56] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[09:56] <ardchoille> Makes sense.
[09:59] <chilisauce> trying to install the pkg "console-setup" what would be the command for that
[09:59] <chilisauce> not used to deb packages
[09:59] <intelikey> basicly if you have anything besides textmode 80x25 chars and no splash screen while the kernel is loading and the initramfs image is starting the system,   then it's kernel frame buffering you are looking at.
[10:00] <intelikey> chilisauce sudo apt-get install console-setup
[10:00] <chilisauce> ahh
[10:00] <intelikey> chilisauce sudo aptitude install console-setup   <<< if you prefer
[10:01] <chilisauce> whats the difference between the two?
[10:01] <intelikey> i think you probably have dselect also you can choose from
[10:02] <intelikey> they are all frontends to dpkg = the debian package manager     so to my notion there isn't much differance
[10:02] <chilisauce> oh ok
[10:02] <intelikey> a feature here a switch there...
[10:03] <chilisauce> hehe
[10:03] <Nuked> !usplash
[10:03] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[10:04] <intelikey> aptitude and dslect have ncurses (gui) interfaces if you like menu driven apps.
[10:06] <intelikey> i personally wrote a script that calls apt*  accordingly     so i just issue     urpm[qseid]  package    q for querry i install e erase s show  d depends   ....   lazy about typing although you can't tell it from irc....
[10:06] <chilisauce> lol
[10:07] <vzduch> 'urpm'?  you mean like 'urpmi'? o0
[10:08] <ardchoille> urpmi? reminds me of mandriva
[10:09] <intelikey> yeah i liked mandrake before they changed the name
[10:09] <ardchoille> I liked it before they fired their founder
[10:09] <intelikey> i think they happened about the same time
[10:09] <ardchoille> I worled for Mandrakelinux for a bit
[10:09] <ardchoille> *worked
[10:10] <intelikey> script ?
[10:10] <chilisauce> whats a good font to set normal console with
[10:10] <intelikey> lat0-16
[10:11] <chilisauce> how do i check to see if i have it installed?
[10:11] <vzduch> how do you set console fonts anyway?
[10:11] <intelikey> finnally you ask a question i can't answer
[10:11] <chilisauce> consolechars i believe
[10:11] <ardchoille> Wouldn't that font be in xfontsel?
[10:11] <intelikey> yes consolechars to set   but how to check ....  idk
[10:12] <intelikey> ardchoille it's a console font   should be in the console-data package   "i think"
[10:12] <ardchoille> intelikey: the lao font is in xfontsel. was the "t" a typo?
[10:12] <intelikey> no  lat
[10:13] <intelikey> lat0  thats zero
[10:13] <hatter> how do i send a command from an ssh'd terminal to a running x-session ?
[10:13] <intelikey> but you don't have to use that.   there are other good ones to
[10:13] <intelikey> too
[10:13] <intelikey> hatter dcop
[10:15] <intelikey> hmmm seems it may be    lat1-16  not 0-16   ooops   <blushes>
[10:15] <steve__> how do i partition my hard drive
[10:15] <hatter> intelikey, thx
[10:15] <blizzzek> not kubuntu specific, but are LPIC-1 and/or -2 of value?
[10:16] <intelikey> steve__ gparted   parted   cfdisk fdisk
[10:16] <Magles> Hello everybody! :)
[10:16] <steve__> intelikey> do i type that in the terminal?
[10:17] <intelikey> steve__ those are all partitioning tools at your disposal
[10:17] <intelikey> all but gparted can be ran from the console yes
[10:18] <steve__> intellikey> ok cool can i find those in the synaptic package manager
[10:18] <intelikey> steve__ you'll have to run which ever you choose as root   and may need to address the disk   i.e.     cfdisk /dev/hda
[10:18] <intelikey> steve__ most are installed already
[10:18] <Magles> Anyone here who has a dual-boot (XP and Kubuntu) ?
[10:19] <intelikey> Magles what you need.  or is that just a poll ?
[10:19] <aleksanteri> is there any way to have kde menus in GTK applications?
[10:19] <vzduch> !anyone | Magles
[10:19] <ubotu> Magles: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:20] <vzduch> I do, btw
[10:20] <Magles> Well, I was thinking about creating one myself, but I've had some troubles with Ubuntu's OS selector..
[10:20] <aleksanteri> Magles: i used to, but my computer "lost" the XP drive
[10:20] <vzduch> 'lost'?
[10:20] <aleksanteri> yeah
[10:20] <vzduch> how so?
[10:21] <intelikey> died ?
[10:21] <aleksanteri> like it was on sdb, now my computer can't find it... for example i can't mount /dev/sdb1 to mount my windows drive
[10:21] <intelikey> aleksanteri cat /proc/partitions
[10:21] <intelikey> aleksanteri and don't paste it in here
[10:21] <aleksanteri> yea, i know pastebins :)
[10:21] <Magles> Ubuntu wasn't for me at that time, and wanted to uninstall it, so went into XP (patition magic) and deleted the ubuntu partitions.. but the boot loader messed up, and I ended up having to format my drive.
[10:22] <aleksanteri> intelikey: but still, only sda, sda1-5 and no sign of sdb
[10:22] <steve__> intellikey> what is the diff. between primary and logical partition
[10:22] <intelikey> aleksanteri i was just expecting you to look through the output and see if you could see where the dirve is
[10:22] <aleksanteri> i know where it should be
[10:22] <aleksanteri> my computer can't find the other drive
[10:23] <Magles> So, my first question is, can I use a program to create the bootloader, ex. EasyBCD?
[10:23] <vzduch> Magles: in such cases, insert your Windows CD, run repair console & type 'fixmbr'
[10:23] <vzduch> then the Linux bootloader will be gone
[10:23] <Magles> It's just that the Linux bootloader is a bit advance.
[10:24] <ardchoille> !grub
[10:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:24] <intelikey> steve__ you can only have 4 primary partitions  if you have extended partitions one of the primaries has to fill the rest of the drive and the logical partitions are within that primary partition.    dos/windows can only boot a primary partition but linux can boot anything.
[10:24] <evjunior09> Anyone know how to make a .Gif Picture? (Moving Picture)
[10:24] <Magles> I guess I want to have a bootloader like Vista creates them, just 2 options.
[10:24] <Magles> With ubuntu's I have about 4 options for just 2 OS'es
[10:24] <aleksanteri> Magles: GRUB is able for doing that
[10:25] <ardchoille> evjunior09: gimp can do that
[10:25] <intelikey> steve__ without getting technecal that's about all i can say there
[10:25] <Magles> Allright, how do I get into GRUB?
[10:25] <evjunior09> Ardchille: how!? ive been trying to figure out Gimp and its hard
[10:25] <aleksanteri> hmm, you can only use it if you have an ubuntu system on your drive, or at least the /boot/ and /usr/ folders
[10:26] <steve__> intellikey> i currently only have linux as my OS, but was going to install the mac OS 10 on it. would that then be primary?
[10:26] <aleksanteri> Magles: do you have an ubuntu installed on your drive currently?
[10:26] <intelikey> steve__ i'm not a mac man.  so i don't really know.
[10:26] <ardchoille> evjunior09: Here's something to get you started http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Simple_Animations/
[10:26] <redshadowhero_> Hmm, I've already registered my name, but how do I login with it?
[10:26] <Magles> no, I don't want to have ubuntu, I want to make a dual boot with Kubuntu and XP, I'm currently running my LiveCD
[10:26] <intelikey> steve__ when in doubt give the other os the first primary
[10:26] <aleksanteri> aha
[10:27] <steve__> ok
[10:27] <aleksanteri> Magles: so you have kubuntu instaled?
[10:27] <aleksanteri> and GRUB went booboo?
[10:27] <ardchoille> redshadowhero_: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[10:27] <Magles> No, running LiveCD
[10:27] <intelikey> steve__ that's always safe cause linux can be anywhere and boot and if the other os can't then it will want the first primary
[10:27] <vzduch> Magles: Ubuntu and Kubuntu is essentially the same, apart from the default desktop environment and most programs that come w/ it
[10:27] <evjunior09> ardchille: wow thats reallly confusing
[10:28] <ardchoille> evjunior09: gimp does take a bit of learning
[10:28] <ardchoille> :(
[10:28] <Magles> Also, I have a 250 GB HDD, currently all Windows NTFS.
[10:28] <aleksanteri> hmmm
[10:28] <evjunior09> Ardchoille: any other way?
[10:28] <Magles> How much should I reduce that partition, how much should Kubuntu have?
[10:28] <aleksanteri> how can you dual boot XP with something that's not installed?
[10:28] <evjunior09> like i have 1 images i want to use
[10:28] <vzduch> what on earth do you need 250 friggin' GB NTFS for? o0
[10:29] <intelikey> steve__ in fact, not to confuse you but i don't even have a partition on a hd  i write streight to the disk itself for the file system   linux works fine that way but it wouldn't be possable for windows to live there.
[10:29] <redshadowhero_> ardchoille: but my name is redshadowhero, not redshadowhero_; how would I use it to register my regular name?
[10:29] <Magles> haha. good question vzduch!
[10:29] <ardchoille> evjunior09: You might try out gimp-gap (apt-cache search gimp-gap), I haven't used it but friends say it's nice
[10:29] <Magles> Well, since XP has been my one and only OS right now..
[10:29] <vzduch> my XP partition is 15 GB, that's more than enough
[10:29] <aleksanteri> redshadowhero_: change nick to redshadowhero and do: /msg nickserv identify <your-nickserv-password>
[10:30] <redshadowhero_> ...how would I change my nick to that?
[10:30] <vzduch> the rest of the hdd it's on (another 96 GB) is divided in 2 FAT32 partitions
[10:30] <ardchoille> redshadowhero_: What aleksanteri said
[10:30] <redshadowhero_> is it a menu in the app, or a msg command?
[10:30] <ardchoille> redshadowhero_: /nick new-nick-here  ?
[10:30] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:30] <Magles> Well, I also have an external which is also 250 GB
[10:30] <steve__> intellikey> do you mean the only OS you have is linux?
[10:30] <aleksanteri> redshadowhero_: /nick <newnick>
[10:30] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:30] <intelikey> steve__ yes
[10:30] <ardchoille> redshadowhero_: Which client are you using?
[10:30] <redshadowhero_> konversation
[10:30] <vzduch> is he _still_ here? o0
[10:31] <steve__> intellikey> same here, i just want iTunes
[10:31] <Magles> So, let me just install Kubuntu, and I'll be back to modify the bootloader, I'm gonna need some help with that..
[10:31] <aleksanteri> Magles: ok
[10:31] <evjunior09> ardchoille: how do i run Gimp-Gap?
[10:31] <ardchoille> redshadowhero_: I don't know if konversation will accept  /nick newnickhere
[10:31] <aldcor> aldcor
[10:31] <vzduch> steve__: how about tabbing other ppl's nicks?  then you can't mistype them :)
[10:31] <Magles> oh, last question, 64-bit or 32- bit?
[10:31] <ardchoille> evjunior09: sudo apt-get install gimp-gap
[10:31] <intelikey> !grub | Magles book mark this
[10:31] <ubotu> Magles book mark this: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:32] <vzduch> aldcor: wtf are you doing?
[10:32] <evjunior09> Ardchoille: i did that
[10:32] <evjunior09> now where do i find it?
[10:32] <ardchoille> evjunior09: like I said, I have never used it, but it's probably available from within gimp. maybe see the gimp help docs
[10:32] <evjunior09> its not under Graphics
[10:32] <aleksanteri> intelikey: it's kinda hard to bookmark something on a LiveCD
[10:32] <aleksanteri> :P
[10:32] <steve__> intelikey> lol my bad
[10:32] <ardchoille> evqit's part of the gimp app
[10:33] <ardchoille> evjunior09: ^^
[10:33] <Magles> Should I got with 64-bit or 32-bit?
[10:33] <intelikey> vzduch that's automated.  aldcor is not there
[10:33] <pag> Magles, 32 - easier.
[10:33] <vzduch> intelikey: lol?
[10:33] <Magles> But isn't 64-bit faster?
[10:33] <vzduch> is that a bot?
[10:33] <evjunior09> Ardchoille: im confused
[10:33] <pag> Magles, there's no relevant difference for average home-user
[10:33] <evjunior09> oh
[10:33] <intelikey> vzduch i think it's to keep the server from dropping the connection.   but it is annoying.
[10:34] <steve__> intelikey> it's asking me "File system type?  [ext2] ? " would you know what that meansd
[10:34] <ardchoille> evjunior09: I don't what to tell you, I've never used it, I just know it does some nice animations, have seen them. Maybe google for gimp-gap ?
[10:34] <Magles> right, since I've burned the 64-bit, I'll go with that :)
[10:34] <vzduch> keep what server from dropping what connection?
[10:34] <aleksanteri> intelikey: you should have ext3 there if you are installing a linux OS
[10:34] <intelikey> steve__ yes it wants to know what to mark the partition as
[10:34] <aleksanteri> erm
[10:34] <Magles> Bye, I'll be back from my HDD in a while.
[10:34] <intelikey> aleksanteri there is no ext3 partition format
[10:35] <aleksanteri> o.O
[10:35] <aleksanteri> i have all partitions on my hdd as ext3
[10:35] <redshadowhero_> Okay, so I can't change to my regular nickname, and I can't seem to figure out how to do it... any ideas?
[10:35] <aleksanteri> redshadowhero_: /nick redshadowhero
[10:35] <intelikey> aleksanteri no you have a file system on a partition the fs is ext3  the partition is ext2
[10:35] <ardchoille> redshadowhero_: /msg nickserv help  ?
[10:35] <aleksanteri> redshadowhero_: then /msg nickserv identify <your-nickserv-password>
[10:35] <evjunior09> redshadowhero: are you trying to change ur nickname on Konverstation?
[10:36] <aleksanteri> intelikey: ah
[10:36] <steve__> intelikey> could i just type ext2 or...?
[10:36] <aleksanteri> steve__: yep
[10:36] <intelikey> steve__ yes
[10:36] <redshadowhero_> evjunior09: yes, I am.
[10:36] <intelikey> steve__ which app did you select ?
[10:36] <intelikey> steve__ is that fdisk ?
[10:36] <vzduch> redshadowhero_: /nick redshadowhero
[10:37] <redshadowhero_> vzduch: it keeps saying that the nick is already in use
[10:37] <evjunior09> redshaowhero: click on file, server list, highlight the network (Ubuntu IRC), edit, Server Identiy, edit
[10:37] <evjunior09> and go from there
[10:38] <intelikey> i can't ping it. so it will time out soon
[10:38] <steve__> intelikey> not sure i typed ext2 and hit enter, the following step was "Start? "
[10:39] <ardchoille> RedKrieg: yay!
[10:39] <aleksanteri> redshadowhero: now: /msg nickserv <nickservpass>
[10:39] <intelikey> steve__ ummm gparted ?
[10:39] <evjunior09> redshadowhero: did it work?
[10:39] <ardchoille> erm, meant redshadowhero
[10:39] <redshadowhero> Yes, it did.
[10:39] <redshadowhero> Thanks.
[10:39] <evjunior09> Good.
[10:39] <intelikey> steve__ it may write a filesystem on the partition
[10:39] <aleksanteri> nice
[10:39] <evjunior09> yup
[10:39] <aleksanteri> :D
[10:39] <ardchoille> This keyboard lacks DWIM features
[10:40] <vzduch> redshadowhero: register it
[10:40] <redshadowhero> vzduch: I already have.
[10:40] <intelikey> steve__ if nalioth_ or someone that knows about os10 can help you set that up ....
[10:40] <redshadowhero> vzduch: I just couldn't figure out how to "log in" to it.
[10:40] <vzduch> then you could have easily ghosted your nick out of the network
[10:40] <redshadowhero> Hmm
[10:40] <intelikey> vzduch you a mac man ?
[10:40] <ardchoille> he's reg'd and id'd
[10:41] <vzduch> intelikey: no
[10:41] <aleksanteri> redshadowhero: /msg nickserv help
[10:41] <intelikey> ardchoille ?
[10:41] <redshadowhero> No  no, its done, now
[10:41] <evjunior09> Anyone here use Gimp-Gap?
[10:41] <redshadowhero> I've got it now.
[10:41] <ardchoille> intelikey: ?
[10:41] <vzduch> I use one @ work every now and then, that's all
[10:41] <intelikey> osx ?
[10:41] <redshadowhero> Did I hear OSX?
[10:41] <ardchoille> intelikey: Me?, no Linux user since 2001
[10:41] <intelikey> yea steve__ needs some info
[10:41] <redshadowhero> Oh... what about Macs?
[10:42] <intelikey> redshadowhero can you help him setup partitions/filesystems for an install
[10:42] <ardchoille> I saw an apple IIe once
[10:42] <intelikey> ardchoille that trumps me
[10:42] <ardchoille> hahaha
[10:42] <redshadowhero> intelikey: well, I would just boot from the mac os install cd, and use diskutility.app
[10:42] <steve__> intelikey> sorry, i used parted in the terminal
[10:43] <intelikey> steve__ see redshadowhero      redshadowhero see steve__
[10:43] <redshadowhero> oops
[10:43] <redshadowhero> steve_: boot from the osx install cd, and use disk utility.app to setup some partitions.
[10:44] <intelikey> redshadowhero he has linux already installed i think  so watch that   k     and i'm out
[10:44] <steve__> ok
[10:44] <redshadowhero> intelikey
[10:44] <redshadowhero> intelikey: alright
[10:44] <intelikey> fellows it's been real.    and it's been fun.   but it's not been real fun.    :)
[10:44] <ardchoille> Good night intelikey
[10:45] <intelikey> shalom
[10:45] <redshadowhero> steve__: alright, what model of mac are we talking about? PPC or Intel?
[10:45] <redshadowhero> steve__: the firmware is different, and it can get strange sometimes...
[10:46] <vzduch> "you stole the sun straight from my heart, from my heart, from my heart.." *sing*
[10:46] <steve__> redshadowhero> i got the OS 10 for mac
[10:46] <vzduch> steve__: Mac-PPC or Mac-Intel?
[10:46] <redshadowhero> steve__: I meant, which processor type is it?
[10:47] <hotterdam> !fonts
[10:47] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:47] <steve__> redshadowhero> intell
[10:47] <redshadowhero> steve__: So, you have a 10.4.7 version (or later) install cd, right?
[10:47] <hotterdam> what are the apple fonts anybody?
[10:47] <hotterdam> !apple
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <steve__> redshadowhero> yeah its 10.4.8
[10:48] <hotterdam> what are those open source fonts that aren't install by default?
[10:48] <hotterdam> !flash
[10:48] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:48] <redshadowhero> steve__: Alright... let me check some things first...
[10:48] <steve__> redshadowhero> ok
[10:49] <vzduch> hotterdam: ?
[10:50] <vzduch> there are several open-source fonts that aren't installed by default
[10:50] <hotterdam> freefonts or something like that
[10:50] <hotterdam> the ones that xorg always complains about in the logs
[10:50] <vzduch> if you mean those released by Red Hat not long ago --> sudo apt-get install ttf-liberation
[10:51] <vzduch> freefonts also exist
[10:51] <vzduch> I think I had them by default
[10:51] <redshadowhero> steve__: This may be weird for me, considering I've worked with partitioning from mac to linux, but not linux to mac...
[10:51] <redshadowhero> steve__: Try booting from the install cd by turning on the mac with the cd inserted and holding down the c key
[10:52] <vzduch> hotterdam: try 'sudo apt-get install ttf-freefont'
[10:53] <steve__> redshadowhero> i dont have a mac personally, just the software
[10:54] <khaije1> so why apparmor instead of SElinux?
[10:54] <redshadowhero> steve__: ...that makes things... considerably more difficult...
[10:54] <khaije1> it almost seems like cheating
[10:54] <vzduch> khaije1: ?
[10:54] <vzduch> to my knowledge, *buntu has neither
[10:55] <khaije1> vzduch: w/ gutsy it'll be integrated, but i find the choice of apparmor over SElinux questionable
[10:55] <redshadowhero> Well, hmm... and you don't have the partition set up yet, right?
[10:56] <hotterdam> got those
[10:56] <vzduch> khaije1: AppArmor runs nicely in the background & has never bothered me w/ anything when using openSUSE..  SELinux b0rks your permissions when run in restrictive mode (default in Fedora)
[10:57] <vzduch> of course, that's not an excuse, just my perception
[10:57] <khaije1> SElinux is ultimately more secure though as i understand it
[10:57] <redshadowhero> steve__: Well, hmm... and you don't have the partition set up yet, right?
[10:58] <vzduch> as a private user you don't need either, I guess
[10:58] <steve__> redshadowhero> to let you know, i have a 70G hard drive with 20G left and only the linux OS. i was going to try and partition the last 20G and put OS X 10 on that
[10:58] <khaije1> it seems like it would be better to gradually include the more powerful tech, rather than go full force w/ a good but less powerfull option
[10:58] <steve__> redshadowhero> no not yet
[10:59] <ardchoille> I used SElinux in Fedora a couple years ago.. it was more of an annoyance than anything
[10:59] <redshadowhero> steve__: can you use qtparted to do it?
[10:59] <aleksanteri> redshadowhero: gparted rocks :)
[10:59] <steve__> redshadowhero> i dont believe i have that
[11:00] <aleksanteri> steve__: sudo apt-get install qtparted
[11:00] <aleksanteri> in terminal ^^
[11:00] <redshadowhero> uh.. what they said.
[11:00] <vzduch> ardchoille: that's what I said
[11:01] <steve__> redshadowhero> ok i have it
[11:01] <neusonce> Help !!!! i did something to my ubuntu ...  i try to open the synaptic manager and it says  E: Type '"deb' is not know on line 44 in source list /ect/apt/sources/.list next line says E: the list of sources could not be read. next line go to the respoitory dialouge to correct the problem next line E:_cashe->open(failed), please report ........ iv done everying thing in my knowlege!!
[11:01] <khaije1> vzduch: ardchoille: perhaps this is because apparmor does less
[11:02] <redshadowhero> steve__: alright, use it to get your hd partitioned... I'm looking up how to do the install of os x from there.. it doesn't look pretty
[11:02] <steve__> redshadowhero> lol it never does
[11:02] <ardchoille> khaije1: I've never used apparmour, I'll have to look at it
[11:03] <khaije1> neusonce: it sounds like a simple problem, paste the file at /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin and i will correct it for you
[11:03] <vzduch> I always left AppArmor to its default settings in openSUSE
[11:03] <harmental> does anybody know if acrobat reader 8 will be available in the repos any time soon?
[11:03] <vzduch> never had a problem w/ it
[11:03] <redshadowhero> steve__: Bah... this is why I use a mac... its too convoluted and odd to do it externally like this.
[11:04] <vzduch> harmental: I don't know if I'd want it.. it's friggin' slow on Windoze already
[11:06] <harmental> vzduch:  i know i would...;o)
[11:06] <root_> i have to install kubuntu again
[11:06] <root_> and if it doesnt work i might replace it :(
[11:07] <steve__> redshadowhero> i clicked make a new partition and a dialog box came up asking if i were sure and said all data will be lost. does that mean its going to wipe everything out?
[11:07] <aldcor> aldcor
[11:07] <redshadowhero> uh... I'm not completely familiar with qtparted, anyway have an answer to steve__'s question?
[11:10] <redshadowhero> well, let my try... if it doesn't work, then I'll be back on in a few hours... after a kubuntu reinstall, ha ha.
[11:11] <stdin> ardchoille: ok, take a look at this one :) http://stdin.pastebin.us/38441
[11:12] <neusonce> how dose one move files in to the paste bin
[11:12] <stdin> neusonce: one normally coppies the text and pastes it in to the website
[11:13] <stdin> neusonce: but I have a script to do that for me :)
[11:13] <redshadowhero> steve__: is this partition on an external hd?
[11:13] <hw__> What is the ububtu replacement for apt-source?
[11:13] <steve__> redshadowhero> no
[11:13] <stdin> hw__: apt-get source ?
[11:14] <redshadowhero> steve__: interesting... you are running qtparted on the same hd that you intend to partition, no?
[11:14] <hw__> stdin: yes, used by debian. I thought ubuntu is a debian derivat...
[11:14] <vzduch> stdin, hw__: indeed
[11:14] <stdin> hw__: yes, the command is "apt-get source <package>"
[11:15] <steve__> redshadowhero> yeah
[11:15] <neusonce> khaije1 do you have a private paste bin?
[11:15] <hw__> stdin: Ahh, I'm sorry! Too simple =)
[11:15] <steve__> redshadowhero> i just wanna break of a part of what i already have
[11:16] <khaije1> neusonce: no you can use the general one
[11:16] <khaije1> do you know how?
[11:16] <neusonce> im learning
[11:16] <redshadowhero> steve__: Yeah... I would boot from the live cd to do this, though... because I think that partitioning a drive that you are currently running from is typically a big no-no.
[11:16] <stdin> neusonce: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/
[11:16] <vzduch> steve__: in this case you better boot from a live CD & partition from there
[11:16] <stdin> neusonce: copy and paste the file there
[11:18] <ardchoille> stdin: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/38440
[11:19] <stdin> ardchoille: yes, but that's perl :p
[11:19] <neusonce> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38442
[11:19] <neusonce> ok
[11:19] <khaije1> neusonce: checking it out
[11:19] <neusonce> thanks man
[11:21] <khaije1> neusonce: so if you look at line #44 do you see a difference there?
[11:21] <stdin> ardchoille: wouldn't running it in perl increase the mem usage> :p
[11:22] <stdin> neusonce: WARNING!! don't, I repeat, don't, use automatix
[11:22] <khaije1> neusonce: thats the first problem i see. and i think it's the only one
[11:23] <neusonce> ok i removed it
[11:23] <khaije1> though as stdin states, automatix is not recommended, and is mostly unnecessary in any case
[11:23] <neusonce> im  LINUX BABY
[11:23] <khaije1> neusonce: is it working properly now?
[11:23] <neusonce>  IM HAVING SO much  problems install pulgins for my browser
[11:24] <stdin> neusonce: automatix has a chance of breaking your system when it comes to upgrade.
[11:24] <vzduch> khaije1, stdin: you can have the Automatix repo w/o actually using Automatix..  so have I
[11:24] <khaije1> vzduch: whats the benefit?
[11:24] <stdin> vzduch: yes, but then what's the point of having the repo ?:P
[11:24] <vzduch> khaije1: a handful of programs you don't get as .debs elsewhere
[11:25] <neusonce> OMG
[11:25] <neusonce> You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[11:25] <khaije1> neusonce: no sweat, you'll need to edit it as root, this is good and as it should be
[11:25] <stdin> neusonce: you have to edit it by pressing Alt+F2 and typing in: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:25] <ardchoille> stdin: Good point
[11:26] <khaije1> neusonce: just wondering, are you using kubuntu feisty?
[11:27] <stdin> khaije1: that's what he's repos say
[11:27] <vzduch> he's? o0
[11:27] <ardchoille> !automatix | neusonce
[11:27] <ubotu> neusonce: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:27] <stdin> vzduch: heh, his
[11:27] <neusonce> im useing ubuntu fiesty
[11:28] <khaije1> stdin: right duh!
[11:28] <stdin> neusonce: so what plugins do you want, and for what browser?
[11:29] <khaije1> neusonce: i was just going to recommend you try adept manager, instead of synaptic, it's a good alternate option and you may like/prefer it
[11:29] <neusonce> grrrr iv still gotta fix  this sources.list problem
[11:29] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[11:29] <vzduch> neusonce: what problem exactly?
[11:29] <contrast83> Has anyone had any success getting KDE 4 running under Gutsy? I followed the instructions here - http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php - and it just crashes my X session and returns me to the login screen when I try going to the KDE 4 session.
[11:29] <neusonce> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list command cant be found
[11:29] <contrast83> khaije1: You actually prefer Adept over Synaptic?
[11:30] <contrast83> neusonce: Are you running that from the terminal?
[11:30] <vzduch> neusonce: did you put that in a terminal?
[11:30] <khaije1> contrast83: yup, not at first, but i do now
[11:30] <neusonce> god dammm
[11:30] <neusonce> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[11:30] <aleksanteri> ignore that
[11:30] <contrast83> neusonce: That's normal
[11:31] <neusonce>   Major opcode:  144
[11:31] <neusonce>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:31] <neusonce>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:31] <neusonce> Failed to open device
[11:31] <stdin> !paste
[11:31] <neusonce> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[11:31] <neusonce>   Major opcode:  144
[11:31] <neusonce>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:31] <neusonce>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:31] <neusonce> Failed to open device
[11:31] <contrast83> !paste
[11:31] <contrast83> lol
[11:31] <aleksanteri> !pate
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <aleksanteri> !paste
[11:31] <ardchoille> !baddevice | neusonce
[11:31] <vzduch> aleksanteri: pate is something to eat :D
[11:31] <ubotu> neusonce: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[11:31] <stdin> neusonce: are you on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:31] <aleksanteri> neusonce: and also those "errors" can be ignored
[11:32] <contrast83> Irony: 3 people getting uboto to flood the channel in an attempt to advise someone else not to flood the channel
[11:32] <neusonce> khaije1 it still wont allow me to safe the new sources.list
[11:32] <aldcor> aldcor
[11:32] <neusonce> save*
[11:32] <aleksanteri> heh
[11:32] <ardchoille> contrast83: lol
[11:32] <vzduch> /kick aldcor stop spamming the channel
[11:33] <stdin> neusonce: are you on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:33] <neusonce> ubuntu
[11:33] <khaije1> neusonce: lets do it from the command line, i'll walk you through it
[11:33] <neusonce> should i exit the gedit ?
[11:33] <khaije1> yes
[11:33] <vzduch> neusonce: wth are you then doing here? o0
[11:33] <vzduch> ;D
[11:33] <contrast83> neusonce: Do this from the terminal: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" (no quotes) - make your changes, then Ctrl+X, Y, Enter
[11:34] <khaije1> neusonce: ^^ this is what i was going to say
[11:34] <stdin> contrast83: you could just tell him to use "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:34] <stdin> as that's the "gnome way"
[11:34] <khaije1> stdin: cmdline is the *nix way
[11:34] <vzduch> stdin: or we could have told him long ago to /join #ubuntu and get help there :)
[11:34] <khaije1> !flamewar
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flamewar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <khaije1> hehe
[11:35] <contrast83> lol
[11:35] <aleksanteri> !flame
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <aleksanteri> !anything
[11:35] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[11:35] <aleksanteri> bah, he's smart
[11:35] <contrast83> !troll
[11:35] <vzduch> sure
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <aleksanteri> i'm smarter :P
[11:35] <ardchoille> !botabuse
[11:35] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:35] <aleksanteri> !anything
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <stdin> vzduch: are you insane? no one gets help in #ubuntu, they need a ticket system in there :p
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[11:35] <redshadowhero> !random
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about random - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <vzduch> stdin: lol
[11:35] <redshadowhero> Well, I tried...
[11:36] <contrast83> Is anyone here running Gutsy?
[11:36] <ardchoille> contrast83: Perhaps join #ubuntu+1
[11:36] <contrast83> (I know, I know - #ubuntu+1 - it's dead in there :-) )
[11:37] <ardchoille> :(
[11:37] <contrast83> Thanks anyway, ardchoille
[11:37] <stdin> contrast83: but that is the place for gutsy help/support, that or kubuntu-devel
[11:37] <DBO> ardchoille, thanks for the update =)
[11:38] <ardchoille> DBO: You're welcome :) and Thank you :)
[11:38] <aleksanteri> hmm
[11:38] <aleksanteri> where is the default konsole tab color defined?
[11:39] <neusonce> *HUGZ khaije1* thankyou
[11:39] <ardchoille> aleksanteri: In the kde theme you're using?
[11:39] <khaije1> neusonce: np, team effort :-)
[11:39] <Graham> settings > configure > notifications > tabs
[11:39] <neusonce>  and the reason i come to kubuntu cuase you guys are smarter and much much more hospitable than the other guys
[11:39] <aleksanteri> ardchoille: theme in what sense?
[11:39] <neusonce> you guys actually anwser me
[11:39] <Graham> neusonce: No w're not, fuck off.
[11:39] <aleksanteri> widget theme, color scheme, ?
[11:39] <stdin> Graham: konsole != konversation
[11:40] <ardchoille> aleksanteri: The overall kde theme. I believe that is what is used in the kinsolce tab color
[11:40] <neusonce> ow
[11:40] <Graham> stdin: Sorry, it's morning, I read that wrong.
[11:40] <aleksanteri> ardchoille: ah, i'm using a custom one
[11:40] <Graham> neusonce: Joking :)
[11:40] <aleksanteri> heh :P
[11:40] <ardchoille> lol
[11:40] <DBO> you sir qualify for the dillhole of the week award =P
[11:40] <Graham> What the hell is a dillhole?
[11:41] <Graham> I like coffee.
[11:42] <Graham> Who here likes coffee?
[11:42] <aleksanteri> not me
[11:42] <ardchoille> chai > coffee
[11:42] <aleksanteri> and btw i'm not english ^^
[11:43] <Graham> fair enough, because I like coffee and I am English
[11:43] <aleksanteri> oh, lol
[11:43] <Graham> I only drink tea if it's got like... 3 sugars in it.
[11:44] <aleksanteri> 3 sugars? o.O
[11:44] <aleksanteri> ye must remember to brush yer teeth then
[11:44] <stdin> ye?
[11:45] <aleksanteri> you
[11:45] <stdin> yeah,  in ye ol' english
[11:45] <aleksanteri> hehe
[11:45] <stdin> or nglish
[11:46] <cbo> hello all, i can't make work apache2, apt-get install apache2 gives no errors, but apache2 isnt running....
[11:46] <aleksanteri> cbo: try: apache2 -k start
[11:47] <harmental> does anybody know if acrobat reader 8 will be available in the repos any time soon?
[11:47] <stdin> cbo: by the way, #kubuntu-es is good for spanesh help
[11:47] <stdin> harmental: doubt it
[11:47] <harmental> stdin: why is that?
[11:47] <cbo> stdin: almost nobody there....
[11:47] <stdin> harmental: the licence acrobat reader is under prevents it from even being in multiverse
[11:48] <stdin> cbo: and the way apache normally starts is "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start"
[11:49] <harmental> stdin: maybe in non-free?
[11:49] <stdin> harmental: multiverse == non-free
[11:50] <cbo> stdin: (how did you know im spanish?!....)  apache2 start doesnt work also
[11:50] <vzduch> !sourceomatic
[11:50] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:50] <harmental> stdin: didnt know that.....sorry 4 my newbiness......
[11:50] <stdin> cbo: your hostname
[11:50] <stdin> harmental: it's ok, now you do :)
[11:50] <cbo> stdin: apache1.3 works ok but apache2 wont
[11:50] <stdin> cbo: do you have both installed?
[11:51] <cbo> aleksanteri: "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName"
[11:51] <vzduch> stdin: 'ye' is the old plural for 'you'
[11:51] <vzduch> formal addressing
[11:51] <cbo> stdin: no, only apache2
[11:51] <stdin> vzduch: I know, I do live in endland :p
[11:52] <stdin> cbo: ahh, I think I know the problem
[11:52] <aleksanteri> cbo: hmm. i don't really know, since i use XAMPP... only used "apache2 -k stop" to shutdown the unwanted apache2 processes
[11:52] <cbo> cbo: i cant wait to hear it....
[11:52] <aleksanteri> so i just logically changed that for you :P
[11:53] <stdin> cbo: edit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and add the line "ServerName localhost" to the end
[11:53] <cbo> stdin: ok
[11:53] <vzduch> stdin: even though thou wast not correct above.. thou wouldst have been correct to say 'thou must remember to brush thy teeth then' *gg*
[11:55] <zero> there is a site that has info on how to install stuff at kubuntu anyone knows the site?
[11:56] <stdin> zero: define "stuff"
[11:56] <pag> !software | zero, did you mean this
[11:56] <ubotu> zero, did you mean this: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[11:57] <zero> it had many how to sections
[11:57] <zero> i think it was a wiki...
[11:57] <pag> zero, umm? ubuntuguide.org ?
[11:57] <stdin> wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:58] <zero> thats the site pag
[11:58] <zero> i installed kubuntu again
[11:58] <cbo> stdi: 'apache2 start' doesnt give any message, but 'apache2 stop' says: *Stopping web server.... httpd(no pid file) not running
[11:58] <zero> and if i get errors again i might replace with open suse or debian
[11:59] <stdin> cbo: use the init scripts
[11:59] <stdin> cbo: try "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[11:59] <cbo> stdin: nothing happens
[11:59] <stdin> nothing at all?
[12:00] <cbo> nothing at all
[12:00] <cbo> is like pressing enter
[12:00] <pag> does a succesful operation even produce output?  (usually it does not)
[12:01] <stdin> pag: does on init scripts
[12:01] <pag> stdin, oh, ok.
[12:02] <stdin> cbo: try this again  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[12:02] <cbo> stdin: the same
[12:03] <magles> Hey again! :)
[12:04] <stdin> cbo: try "sudo killall apache2" then "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[12:04] <magles> So, how do I modigy the linux bootload, GUMB was it?
[12:05] <stdin> cbo: also check in /etc/default/apache2, make sure it has: NO_START=0
[12:05] <cbo> killall: 'apache2: no process killed', and apache2 start: (death silence)
[12:05] <stdin> magles: in the grub config file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:06] <pag> magles, what do you want to modify there?
[12:06] <stdin> !grub | magles also look at
[12:06] <ubotu> magles also look at: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:06] <magles> I want to make a more simpler bootloader than it is.
[12:06] <cbo> stdin: it was set to 1, i have set it to 0
[12:06] <stdin> cbo: I think that was the problem
[12:06] <vzduch> magles: simpler?
[12:06] <stdin> cbo: "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start " should work now
[12:06] <magles> ex. now it has about 4 options for 2 OS'es, I just want 2 options.
[12:07] <stdin> magles: remove old kernel packages then
[12:07] <cbo> stdin
[12:07] <vzduch> magles: you should leave the failsafe option where it is, it can be good for finding errors
[12:07] <cbo> stdin: you are right, that was the problem
[12:07] <magles> Allright, then I'll leave the whole thing alone :)
[12:08] <stdin> cbo: heh, had to search around to figure that out :p
[12:08] <cbo> stdin: thank you very much
[12:08] <stdin> cbo: no problem :)
[12:08] <cbo> stdin: i'm going to install php now....
[12:09] <stdin> cbo: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP ?
[12:10] <cbo> stdin: ok
[12:11] <magles> How do I use tar.gz files?
[12:11] <stdin> !tar
[12:11] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[12:11] <magles> Well, it's just that I downloaded a Style for KDE, how do I apply it?
[12:12] <pag> magles, which one (most of them have .debs that are far more easier to install)
[12:12] <stdin> magles: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[12:12] <magles> downloaded it from deviantart..
[12:21] <magles> how do i install that theme?
[12:22] <magles> I downloaded the .zip file, it had some tar.gz files for different resolutions, placed mine on the desktop, and extracted it.
[12:22] <magles> It contains some icons, JPEGS and a .rc file
[12:26] <magles> anyone here?'
[12:26] <vzduch> no :D
[12:27] <magles> :)
[12:27] <magles> Can't you help me out?
[12:27] <vzduch> no, sorry
[12:27] <aleksanteri> magles: so
[12:28] <aleksanteri> magles: do `sudo fdisk -l`, and pastebin the output
[12:29] <magles> Brug: fdisk [-l]  [-b SSZ]  [-u]  enhed
[12:30] <magles> F.eks.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for den frste IDE-disk)
[12:30] <magles>  eller: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for den tredie SCSI-disk)
[12:30] <magles>  eller: fdisk /dev/eda  (for det frste PS/2 ESDI-drev)
[12:30] <magles>  eller: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  eller: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID-enheder)
[12:30] <magles> Why did I have to do that?
[12:30] <aleksanteri> erm.. said pastebin it...
[12:30] <aleksanteri> i need the info to make you a GRUB menu
[12:30] <magles> Oh, I don't need that anymore :)
[12:30] <aleksanteri> oh
[12:30] <magles> Thank you so much anyway :)
[12:31] <magles> I just need to know how I set up that theme.
[12:32] <magles> Okay, how do you use a .rc file?
[12:32] <aleksanteri> magles: what theme?
[12:33] <magles> A theme I downloaded from deviantart.com
[12:33] <aleksanteri> hmm
[12:34] <aleksanteri> well first of all i suggest to look in http://www.kde-look.org/ for finding themes and theme components
[12:37] <vecchioGasometro> hey
[12:37] <vecchioGasometro> why is konqueror trying to open with Kate a .iso file that I'm downloading from the internet instead of saving it somewhere?
[12:40] <neusonce> oh dear, i think i may need some more help, im having issues with my  firefox puglins,
[12:41] <neusonce>  flash and java refuse to install even though i apprently instlled java it says it a out of date version and refuses to load in firefox
[12:42] <jussi01> neusonce: how did  you install it?
[12:44] <neusonce> though terminal commands  after downloading  all the types of file from the flash website
[12:44] <neusonce> then i went thought step by step on the ubuntu help site
[12:44] <neusonce>  in the terminal it just says files not found or command not vaild
[12:44] <neusonce>  then
[12:44] <neusonce> ....
[12:44] <neusonce> and endless circle
[12:45] <jussi01> neusonce: have you tried sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree sun-java6-jre
[12:45] <M_A_K> Can I enter multiple configurations for my wireless or wired adapter so I don't have to keep changing them when I move between work, home and my mothers house?  It can be done in windows, I just dont see where in kubuntu.
[12:47] <nodesert> i can not remove or install mono-xsp how can i fix this?
[12:48] <aleksanteri> hmm
[12:49] <jussi01> nodesert: how are you trying to install/remove it?
[12:49] <aleksanteri> how you get that information bar into dolphin like in this picture? http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/60475-1.jpg
[12:50] <Graham> Help! I've installed some new fonts and one of them has taken over firefox, every page the text is displayed as Alien... any idea why?
[12:52] <nodesert> aleksanteri: i get an error like try apt-get -f install
[12:53] <jussi01> nodesert: did you try that?
[12:53] <magles> How come I don't have the folder KDE in the usr folder?
[12:54] <nodesert> yes
[12:54] <jussi01> nodesert: and?
[12:54] <jussi01> what did it give you?
[12:54] <nodesert> and
[12:54] <nodesert> postinst failed `abort-upgrade'
[12:54] <nodesert> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:54] <nodesert>  /var/cache/apt/archives/mono-xsp_1.2.4-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[12:54] <nodesert> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:55] <nodesert> and KDE is not working
[12:55] <jussi01> nodesert: and you tried reinstalling??
[12:56] <jussi01> damn, he left
[12:57] <magles> how come I don't have the KDE folder in /usr folder?
[12:57] <stdin> magles: why would you?
[12:57] <jussi01> hello stdin
[12:57] <stdin> hey
[12:57] <nodesert> jussi01: yes i tried it doesnt work
[12:58] <magles> well, I want to install a theme, and the guidlines says that I have to go to usr/kde/VERSION/share/apps/kdm/themes
[12:58] <nodesert> sorry i also have problem with kde so i m using enlightment
[12:58] <stdin> magles: then the guide is wrong, put it in /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes
[12:59] <stdin> nodesert: post the whole output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to pastebin
[12:59] <stdin> nodesert: that's all of it, not just the bottom part
[01:00] <jussi01> !paste
[01:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:00] <jussi01> :)
[01:00] <magles> stdin: it tells me that I don't have the permit to do that.
[01:01] <stdin> magles: yes, you need sudo
[01:01] <nodesert> after apt-get dist-upgrade command i got
[01:01] <nodesert> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:01] <nodesert>   mono-xsp: Depends: mono-xsp-base (= 1.2.1-1ubuntu1) but 1.2.4-1ubuntu1 is installed
[01:01] <nodesert> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[01:02] <nodesert> just i got this
[01:02] <jussi01> heh
[01:02] <magles> stdin: that is?
[01:02] <stdin> !sudo | magles
[01:02] <ubotu> magles: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:02] <stdin> nodesert: ok, do "sudo apt-get -f install" and post that to pastebin
[01:03] <nodesert> how can i to pastebin i dont know this
[01:03] <jussi01> stdin: look about 10 mins ago
[01:03] <nodesert> how can i post to pastebin
[01:03] <jussi01> !paste | nodesert
[01:03] <ubotu> nodesert: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:04] <stdin> jussi01: the whole output is here, from start of the command to the end?
[01:04] <magles> stdin: but how does that apply to me? I don't have Ubuntu/gnome
[01:04] <stdin> magles: who said you did?
[01:05] <magles> stdin: in the drag&drop section, the guidelines are for gnome.
[01:05] <nodesert> stdin:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31059/
[01:06] <stdin> magles: use "kdesu konqueror"
[01:06] <stdin> nodesert: no, apt-get -f install, not apt-get dist-upgeade
[01:07] <nodesert> stdin: sorry :( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31060/
[01:09] <stdin> nodesert: hmm, ok. now post the file /etc/init.d/mono-xsp to pastebin
[01:09] <magles> stdin: how do you mean?
[01:10] <stdin> magles: press Alt+F2 to open the run dialog and put in: kdesu konqueror
[01:11] <nodesert> stdin:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31064/
[01:13] <stdin> nodesert: that package is from the official repos yes?
[01:14] <jussi01> \o/
[01:14] <nodesert> it happened after i upgrade to gusty
[01:14] <jussi01> nodesert: your running gutsy?
[01:15] <nodesert> yes
[01:15] <stdin> nodesert: heh, well it's time to report a bug
[01:15] <vzduch> nodesert:  #ubuntu+1
[01:15] <nodesert> :)
[01:15] <jussi01> nodesert: its easy to fix, just got to be done....
[01:15] <nodesert> but kde is not working now
[01:15] <stdin> nodesert: you can fix it tho, but you still need to report a bug  on it
[01:16] <nodesert> ok thanks
[01:20] <nodesert> from now on, i ll always use stable version of linux(recommended for newbies)
[01:20] <jussi01> nodesert: :)
[01:20] <stdin> nodesert: heh, if you don't want bugs, don't run unstable :p
[01:21] <stdin> and the bug's already been reported
[01:21] <stdin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsp/+bug/103934
[01:21] <nodesert> yes i see
[01:21] <stdin> nodesert: but like I said, you can fix yourself if you want
[01:22] <nodesert> stdin:how?
[01:22] <stdin> nodesert: just edit the file /etc/init.d/mono-xsp and change "kill $i >& /dev/null" to "kill $i &> /dev/null" on line number 82
[01:22] <nodesert> actually i m a software engineering student but i dont think i can do this
[01:22] <nodesert> ok
[01:22] <stdin> it's a text file, a 4 year old can do it so I'm sure you can :p
[01:23] <vzduch> o0
[01:23] <magles> stdin: I've downloaded the KDE theme manager, but how do I install it?
[01:24] <stdin> magles: you do "sudo apt-get install kdmtheme" and install it properly
[01:25] <stdin> magles: KDE theme manager or KDM theme manager?
[01:26] <stdin> magles: if you mean the KDE theme manager it's in kcontrol, press Alt-F2 and type in "kcontrol" the theme manager is in Appearance & Themes
[01:26] <nodesert> stdin: it works thanks for everything. i owe you
[01:26] <magles> stdin: KDM
[01:27] <stdin> magles: then do the 1st thing I said
[01:27] <magles> stdin: Alt + F2 and type the line?
[01:27] <stdin> nodesert: no problem, blame the lazy coders :P
[01:27] <stdin> magles: no, run that in konsole
[01:27] <stdin> magles: sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[01:28] <magles> stdin: thanks, linux is great, when you learn how to use it :)
[01:29] <stdin> that's why we use it :)
[01:29] <magles> stdin: what's gentoo?
[01:30] <stdin> it's a penguin :P
[01:30] <stdin> it's also another distribution of GNU/linux
[01:30] <vzduch> Gentoo is a hassle to maintain but great if you want to learn something
[01:31] <vzduch> of course, LFS is the best teacher of Linux things :)
[01:31] <cloakable> vzduch: LFS is Gentoo, without all the user friendly bits :)
[01:31] <vzduch> lol
[01:31] <stdin> I wouldn't have the patience for LFS
[01:31] <cloakable> I've done it!
[01:32] <magles> Oh, allright
[01:32] <cloakable> What did I learn? I can make an install that will boot into 8Mb RAM :)
[01:33] <magles> how do I restart KDE?
[01:34] <jussi01> ctrl -alt - backspace
[01:34] <stdin> well, that's one way
[01:34] <jussi01> hehe
[01:34] <jussi01> stdin: kiss principle
[01:35] <magles> Back again :)
[01:35] <stdin> we should just say to any question "press Ctrl Alt Backspace" and see what happens :p
[01:36] <gdholding> hallo leute
[01:36] <jussi01> lol
[01:36] <gdholding> ich hab eine frage
[01:36] <jussi01> !de
[01:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:39] <magles> !grup
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <magles> !grub
[01:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:39] <magles> hahah
[01:43] <magles> Which themes do you all use?
[01:44] <jussi01> domino
[01:52] <ubuntu_> hey all
[01:54] <jussi01> hi
[01:54] <magles> stdit: To install an application do I have to download the package?
[01:55] <magles> or can I just type sudo apt-get install ... out of the blue?
[01:55] <eagles0513875> magles: what u trying to do
[01:56] <jussi01> magles: yes, you can
[01:56] <magles> eagles: install firefox.
[01:56] <stdin> magles: sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:56] <stdin> magles: easy :)
[01:56] <magles> stdin: so I don't have to go to the webpage and download the package?
[01:57] <stdin> magles: no you don't
[01:57] <stdin> magles: the only reason you'd have to do that is if the package isn't in the repositories
[01:57] <magles> man, that's easy!
[01:57] <stdin> and most things you'll need are in them
[01:59] <magles> is there any games for linux?
[01:59] <stdin> !games
[01:59] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[01:59] <Stephanie> Hey all! I'm new with KDE, can anyone tell me why I have to be root ro change screen resolution? :)
[01:59] <HymnToLife> magles, games ? what's that ??
[02:00] <magles> hymntolife, heh :)
[02:00] <cloakable> Stephanie: Because screen resi is a system setting, and only root can change those :)
[02:00] <HymnToLife> get a Wii :p
[02:00] <stdin> magles: try frozen-bubble it's addictive
[02:00] <Stephanie> cloakable, but I didnt need to be root in gnome :S
[02:01] <ubuntu_> any one own a PSP here??
[02:02] <mimik> hey all, where do i find the disk usage analyzer in kubuntu?
[02:03] <magles> stdin: frozen bubble? what's that?
[02:03] <stdin> magles: a game, install it and see :)
[02:03] <magles> stdin: hehe :)
[02:03] <stdin> !info frozen-bubble
[02:03] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.1.0-1 (feisty), package size 150 kB, installed size 712 kB
[02:04] <stdin> !df | mimik
[02:04] <ubotu> mimik: Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[02:04] <magles> stdin: so, what else can you do with linux, besides basic computer functions?
[02:04] <mimik> thanks
[02:05] <stdin> magles: I'll steel a line from MS "What do you want to do today?"
[02:05] <magles> Well, play WoW :)
[02:05] <stdin> !wow
[02:05] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[02:05] <cloakable> Ewww :P
[02:06] <mimik> WoW runs almost perfectly on wine, doesn't it?
[02:06] <mimik> its GW that has some problems
[02:06] <blackbird> any one own a PSP here??
[02:06] <stdin> magles: well, there's a guide on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games
[02:09] <magles> stdin: Linux is a piece of art! :)
[02:10] <blackbird> hey is it possible to run counter strike source in DX9 mode yet?
[02:10] <mimik> hm. actually what i was looking for was something to map the hard drive usage?
[02:10] <stdin> magles: I'll let Linus know you said that :)
[02:10] <stdin> mimik: try kdirstat
[02:11] <stdin> !info kdirstat
[02:11] <ubotu> kdirstat: graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.4-3 (feisty), package size 272 kB, installed size 880 kB
[02:11] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[02:11] <mimik> ahh there, thanks just installed it
[02:12] <miles> hey man whats up yall
[02:12] <miles> BluesKaj : did u just get to work also?
[02:12] <magles> stdin: how come It doesn't work to type: sudo apt-get install java?
[02:13] <BluesKaj> just woke up , miles :)
[02:13] <miles> haha
[02:13] <miles> magles: it has a different name in the repository
[02:13] <miles> !find sun-java6-jdk
[02:13] <ubotu> Found: sun-java6-jdk
[02:13] <BluesKaj> had to put on the coffee and take out the garbage first ....priorities :)
[02:14] <hendrik_> hi
[02:14] <hendrik_> hallo ?
[02:14] <miles> halo?
[02:14] <hendrik_> german ?
[02:14] <magles> miles: thanks!
[02:15] <miles> !ge | hendrik_
[02:15] <ubotu> hendrik_:       #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge
[02:15] <miles> uhm,...
[02:15] <miles> i donno german
[02:15] <mimik> heh
[02:15] <hendrik_> who speaks german ? need some hepl
[02:15] <miles> whats the german channel?
[02:15] <BluesKaj> miles, I'm retired ...so my work consists being a house bitch and honeydo combo :)
[02:15] <magles> !de | hendrik
[02:15] <ubotu> hendrik: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:15] <hendrik_> i have ubuntu since a halfe hour
[02:15] <miles> o wow, life must be nice
[02:16] <hendrik_> thx
[02:16] <magles> No problem :)
[02:16] <miles> i am just entering the work force at the ripe ol age of 20
[02:16] <mimik> grumble.. was wondering where all my free space went, was playing around with vmware and there it was
[02:16] <magles> man, I'm really getting the hang of this IRC channel :)=
[02:16] <BluesKaj> worked for 40 yrs , miles ...that was enuff
[02:16] <stdin> magles: you'll want the JRE not the JDK
[02:17] <mimik> im sorry, if you want to develop in java, won't you need the jdk version?
[02:17] <miles> mimik yes
[02:17] <magles> stdin: why?
[02:17] <magles> I'm from DK :)
[02:17] <miles> denmark?
[02:17] <magles> Yeah :)
[02:17] <miles> international..nice
[02:17] <stdin> magles: jdk is the development Kit
[02:18] <magles> stdin: oh my.
[02:18] <magles> stdin: I've already started it :)
[02:18] <stdin> magles: Ctrl-C
[02:18] <miles> jdk includes the jre though
[02:18] <miles> its not like it would hurt to have both
[02:18] <stdin> yeah, but jdk is a big package
[02:19] <miles> true
[02:19] <mimik> yeah
[02:19] <BluesKaj> most ppl have both jdk and jre seems to work better that way
[02:19] <stdin> magles: if you want the plugin for firefox you'll need the sun-java6-plugin package too
[02:20] <mimik> hm. which os will run faster in vmware? 98 or xp?
[02:20] <miles> id assume 98, less resource intensive, but i dunno
[02:20] <stdin> probably 98, it'll use less resources
[02:20] <miles> i heard OSs actually run faster in virtualization
[02:21] <miles> ive never used it though
[02:21] <BluesKaj> if you do an "about:plugins" in the FF address bar , you'll be surprised at the number of javas that are instlled at a sublevel
[02:21] <mimik> thanks, guess ill test both later
[02:21] <magles> stdin: okay. I just cancelled it, wanted to install wine first :)
[02:21] <stdin> magles: you can install more than one package at the same time
[02:22] <stdin> magles: sudo apt-get install wine sun-java6-plugin
[02:22] <stdin> the -plugin will also pull -jre
[02:22] <magles> stdin: should i just open a new shell?
[02:23] <stdin> magles: you don't have to, no
[02:23] <magles> stdin: it's easier anyway..
[02:24] <stdin> magles: just remember, you can only have one instance of apt-get running at a time
[02:24] <magles> stdin: how's that?
[02:24] <miles> personally, im fond of apt-get remove --purge package1 package2+
[02:25] <magles> stdin: you just said I could install several at the same time?
[02:25] <miles> #postgresql
[02:25] <stdin> magles: yeah, put all the packages on one line
[02:25] <stdin> magles: like "sudo apt-get install wine firefox frozen-bubble sun-java6-plugin"
[02:25] <magles> stdin: oh, okaay.
[02:26] <magles> stdin: I'll just have to wait for wine to be done then, don't want to cancel it.
[02:26] <stdin> magles: ok, while you're waiting you may want to look at the command called "apt-cache"
[02:27] <stdin> magles: it lets you search the package cache on the command line
[02:27] <stdin> magles: like "apt-cache search wine" will search for "wine"
[02:28] <stdin> magles: then when you see a package you want more info on, you can do "apt-cache show <package>" (eg: apt-cache show wine)
[02:28] <magles> stdin: nice :)
[02:28] <stdin> very :p
[02:28] <magles> stdin: thanks for showing me " the linux way"
[02:29] <stdin> magles: actually, that just one of the "linux ways". as with just about everything in linux, there is more than one way
[02:29] <blackbird> hey is it possible to run counter strike source in DX9 mode yet?
[02:29] <magles> stdin: ;;)
[02:31] <kalib> good morning
[02:33] <magles> stdin: I have the soundblaster audigy 4 soundcard, can i get it to work with linux?
[02:34] <stdin> !soundblaster
[02:34] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[02:35] <stdin> there's a link :)
[02:35] <magles> thanks :)
[02:37] <miles> #opengl
[02:38] <stdin> hmm "A version for Apple Macs could be available in autumn, with versions for Window's Vista and mobile devices to follow, the BBC has said." so where's linux in there?
[02:38] <magles> stdin: where is the windows folder located?
[02:38] <stdin> magles: where did you mount it?
[02:39] <magles> stdin: I don't think that I've mounted it :)
[02:39] <kalib> hey guys...have anyone of you already tried Khtml?
[02:39] <stdin> magles: check in /media, it may be tere
[02:39] <magles> stdin: nope, only cdrom0 and 1 there.
[02:41] <stdin> magles: post the output of this command to pastebin: sudo fdisk -l
[02:41] <magles> stdin: pastebin? :)
[02:42] <stdin> !paste
[02:42] <stdin> magles: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:42] <stdin> well, that's nice of it to wait until I posted the link
[02:43] <magles> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31069/
[02:44] <stdin> magles: ok, now put in the right command :p "sudo fdisk -l" ( l is a lowercase L)
[02:45] <magles> stdin: haha :)
[02:46] <magles> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31070/
[02:46] <H4xC0r> hi
[02:47] <stdin> magles: ok, so what ones do you want to mount. you have sdb1 sa NTFS and also sda2
[02:48] <magles> stdin: sdb2, sdb1 is a dell utility
[02:48] <stdin> magles: no, sda1 is dell, sdb1 is ntfs (the 2nd hard drive)
[02:50] <magles> the first one!
[02:50] <stdin> magles: ok, post your /etc/fstab file to pastebin and I'll show you the changes you need to make
[02:51] <BluesKaj> sdb1 is prolly the windows rescue partition ...bet it's around 500mb
[02:51] <runlevelten> Why is it that some bugs will manifest themselves for the first time *ever* when showing the cool new feature to someone?
[02:51] <runlevelten> :(
[02:51] <magles> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31071/
[02:51] <stdin> BluesKaj: no, it's the whole 250GB disk :p
[02:52] <BluesKaj> wow
[02:52] <runlevelten> sorry, wrong chan. but anyway, hi folks.
[02:53] <stdin> runlevelten: because you didn't prey to the linux gods, or sacrifice a MS workstation in time
[02:54] <runlevelten> stdin: So annoying. It was a pretty female geek too. I'm all like *check this out* and it works once and looks cool. Then when I get all smug and say "that's not all, look", it goes *poot*.
[02:54] <stdin> magles: add a line like the one at the bottom here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31072/
[02:54] <runlevelten> Like a really crap steve jobs getting his own back.
[02:55] <aleksanteri> hmm
[02:55] <aleksanteri> is there a way of having transparent pixmaps as panel backgronds?
[02:55] <stdin> runlevelten: if she was your soalmate she'd have said "I know how to fix that" and done it for you :p
[02:56] <runlevelten> To be fair, I believe the canonical kind female response is to _not_ do that - men are fairly easily crushed and humiliated, heh
[02:56] <magles> stdin: now what?
[02:56] <BluesKaj> chick geeks can be impossible to deal with ... worse know it alls than the male of the species :)
[02:57] <stdin> magles: well you'd need to save the file
[02:57] <stdin> magles: but you probably can't
[02:57] <magles> stdin: yeah yeah, saved it.
[02:57] <stdin> magles: ahh, you opened it as root?
[02:58] <magles> stdin: yeah! :)
[02:58] <magles> stdin: quick learner here :)
[02:58] <stdin> magles: good :p then do this in konsole "sudo mkdir /media/windows" then "sudo mount -a"
[02:59] <magles> stdin: i'm in! :)
[03:00] <stdin> magles: it will automount at boot too
[03:04] <neusonce> !flash
[03:04] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:04] <magles> stdin: why can't I find the 2gmgsmt.sf2 file in Windows\system32\drivers
[03:04] <stdin> magles: I don't know, is it normally there?
[03:05] <magles> stdin: trying to get my soundcard to work
[03:05] <miles> !postgresql
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about postgresql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <miles> !postgres
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about postgres - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <mimik> !xine
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <stdin> magles: I'd just search google for the file
[03:08] <magles> stdin: wonder if my on-board sound will work.
[03:09] <stdin> not sure, haven't had a soundblaster card in years
[03:09] <magles> well, my on-board sound is SigmaTel
[03:10] <BluesKaj> SB cards used towork ok in Linux ..had one in my old PII
[03:11] <lewix> hi
[03:11] <kalib> hi
[03:12] <lewix> im trying to crack a wireless connection but I can't use airodump for some reasons
[03:13] <KomiaPoika> hi
[03:13] <kalib> KomiaPoika hi ;] 
[03:14] <KomiaPoika> with k3b, i have a problem: when i start it displays an error message: could not find mime type: application octet-stream
[03:14] <KomiaPoika> and i cant do anything inside the program
[03:14] <KomiaPoika> while it used to work in kubuntu 6.06
[03:14] <KomiaPoika> this is 7.04
[03:14] <BluesKaj> !xine-engine
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine-engine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <BluesKaj> KomiaPoika, did you upgrade directly from 6.06 to 7.04 ?
[03:16] <KomiaPoika> BluesKaj: no, i made a fresh install
[03:17] <BluesKaj> hmm
[03:17] <thrilla> hey
[03:17] <thrilla> i got a problem with the alt install cd
[03:17] <magles> stdin: how do I make my sound work? :S
[03:17] <stdin> magles: can you do "lspci | grep Audio"
[03:18] <stdin> !ask | thrilla
[03:18] <ubotu> thrilla: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:18] <thrilla> its gets to installing the package openoffice.org-common-data and freezes
[03:19] <magles> stdin: that is?
[03:19] <stdin> thrilla: what version are you installing?
[03:19] <thrilla> 7
[03:19] <stdin> magles: you need to tell me the output
[03:19] <thrilla> i386
[03:19] <stdin> thrilla: 7.04?
[03:19] <thrilla> ya i think
[03:19] <magles> stdin: the output? 5.1 speakers..
[03:20] <stdin> thrilla: well, it's either 7.04 or 7.10, probably 7.04 tho
[03:20] <stdin> magles: no, the output of that command
[03:20] <stdin> thrilla: have you checked the CD for defects?
[03:20] <thrilla> yep
[03:20] <magles> stdin: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[03:20] <JodiH> hi there
[03:20] <stdin> thrilla: and checked the md5sum?
[03:20] <thrilla> yep
[03:21] <thrilla> the disk itself is fine, i was just wondering if i can turn off installing open office until i get into KDE
[03:21] <KomiaPoika> with k3b, i have a problem: when i start it displays an error message: could not find mime type: application octet-stream
[03:21] <stdin> magles: then it's an Intel card, not SigmaTel
[03:22] <stdin> thrilla: not really, it's installed with KDE
[03:22] <DexterF> hi
[03:22] <magles> anyway, how do I make it work? :)
[03:22] <JodiH> if i install Kubuntu instead of ubuntu will i be able to use it as server
[03:22] <stdin> magles: it should "just work"
[03:22] <DexterF> is the GF 6100 IGP supported in feisty? it's not listed in the wiki
[03:22] <thrilla> ya
[03:22] <stdin> JodiH: the only thing that makes a server a server is services :p, so kubuntu will be fine
[03:23] <stdin> magles: what does "aplay -l" show, post it to pastebin
[03:23] <thrilla> best idea is to grab the drivers from www.nvidia.com and install those
[03:23] <DexterF> thrilla: that for me?
[03:23] <thrilla> ya dexter
[03:23] <kalib> JodiH it will work as normal as ubuntu
[03:23] <JodiH> tstdin thanks im a newbie download ubuntu ser which had problems in the installation with mi chipset
[03:23] <thrilla> its not hard to install drivers
[03:24] <kalib> the only difference is the kde
[03:24] <DexterF> ok. well, I don't need any 3D on that box, so I'd like to stick to the Xorg xserver rather. will that work?
[03:24] <stdin> DexterF: try the packages first, nvidia-glx-new for instance
[03:24] <stdin> DexterF: should do
[03:24] <magles> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31079/
[03:24] <stdin> DexterF: try the liveCD and see
[03:24] <JodiH> thanks guys i feel better
[03:24] <DexterF> stdin: cant run live on hardware i havent bought yet ;)
[03:25] <DexterF> well, ill ask on some lists for exp 1st, still thanks
[03:25] <mimik> heh
[03:25] <thrilla> the live cd won't even boot correctly on my pc
[03:25] <stdin> DexterF: ahh, :p well the opensource nvidia driver works on just about any nvidia
[03:25] <DexterF> ok, thats what I needed to hear
[03:25] <stdin> magles: so you have 2 audio cards
[03:25] <DexterF> if all else fails: vesa :P
[03:26] <thrilla> so what can i do about my problem?
[03:26] <stdin> thrilla: how long have you left it run for?
[03:27] <thrilla> about....
[03:27] <thrilla> 20 mins
[03:27] <magles> stdin: yes.
[03:27] <stdin> thrilla: still on the same thing?
[03:27] <thrilla> yep
[03:27] <magles> stdin: got the integrated motherboard sound, and a PCI soundcard..
[03:28] <stdin> magles: well the intel one is the onboard one, that should be working fine, and the other one is detected so that should be working, check the volume levels
[03:28] <mimik> can't you just turn off the integrated sound in bios?
[03:28] <stdin> thrilla: are you on the PC you're installing on?
[03:28] <thrilla> yep
[03:29] <lewix> what does it mean: lewis@lewis-laptop:~$ sudo airmon start ath0
[03:29] <lewix> -e -n ath0              Atheros         madwifi
[03:29] <lewix> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[03:29] <lewix>     SET failed on device ath0 ; Invalid argument.
[03:29] <lewix>  (monitor mode enabled)
[03:29] <stdin> thrilla: if you press Ctrl-Alt-Right then you should get to a screen with some logs on it
[03:29] <stdin> !paste | lewix
[03:29] <ubotu> lewix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:29] <lewix> oh ya sorry
[03:29] <stdin> lewix: and change ath0 to wifi0 for atheros
[03:30] <thrilla> that wont work
[03:30] <stdin> thrilla: why?
[03:30] <thrilla> cause i am not in kubuntu
[03:30] <miles> #postgresql
[03:30] <stdin> thrilla: yes?
[03:30] <lewix> stdin: I did but the i dont see (monitor mode enabled)
[03:31] <alehanders> ciao
[03:31] <magles> stdin: when I open kaffeine player to play a radio station, at the volume adjustment there is a red cross.
[03:31] <alehanders> qualche italiano?
[03:31] <thrilla> so how am i gonna get some logs from windows xp?
[03:31] <stdin> lewix: you use wifi0 as the device and you'll get ath1 set in monitor mode
[03:31] <stdin> !it | alehanders
[03:31] <ubotu> alehanders: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:31] <stdin> magles: you see a speaker icon in the system tray?
[03:31] <magles> Yes,
[03:32] <stdin> magles: right click it and choose something like "show mixer"
[03:32] <lewix> stdin, ok thans. so instead of ath0 I have to type in ath1
[03:32] <magles> stdin: yes?
[03:32] <stdin> lewix: yeah, ath1 is in monitor mode, but it can't connect to a access point, you use ath0 to connect (after you crack it ;) )
[03:33] <thrilla> red cross? means it wants you to give blood
[03:33] <stdin> magles: try moving the sliders up
[03:33] <stdin> thrilla: the alternate installer has logs on one of the VTs
[03:33] <magles> stdin: they are all up
[03:33] <stdin> magles: on both cards?
[03:34] <magles> yes.
[03:34] <thrilla> so when it hangs press ctrl+alt+right arrow?
[03:34] <lewix> stdin, I'm a lil confused what's the difference between wlan, ath. and wifi. thanks though..I'm gonna give it a try with ath1
[03:34] <stdin> magles: you should have sound out of one then
[03:34] <stdin> thrilla: yeah, press it a few times, there's some log screen there
[03:35] <thrilla> ok
[03:36] <stdin> lewix: well wifi0 is the actual wireless card, athX is the "VAP"
[03:36] <stdin> lewix: it's like a virtual device
[03:36] <stdin> lewix: it's how the madwifi driver works
[03:37] <lewix> stdin, ok thank.
[03:38] <stdin> lewix: there's more info on it at the madwifi wiki at http://madwifi.org/
[03:39] <magles> stdin: my message from Amarok is there is no soundchannel
[03:40] <lewix> stdin, I should use ath1 with airodump,right?
[03:40] <stdin> lewix: yeah
[03:40] <stdin> magles: hmm
[03:41] <phanto2> session replacement for kde is:put link into specific folder. Which folder?
[03:41] <stdin> magles: does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav" make any sound?
[03:43] <stdin> !ro | phanto2
[03:43] <stdin> phanto2: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[03:43] <magles> stdin: no, nothing.
[03:43] <ubotu> phanto2: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[03:45] <lewix> stdin, ewis@lewis-laptop:~$ sudo airodump ath1 filename channel# 1
[03:45] <lewix> "ath1" is neither a file nor a network interface, exiting.
[03:46] <lewix> how many lines am I allowed to paste in here?
[03:46] <stdin> lewix: no more than about about 3
[03:46] <stdin> magles: not sure then. look at the sound help
[03:46] <stdin> !sound | magles
[03:46] <ubotu> magles: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:47] <KomiaPoika> with k3b, i have a problem: when i start it displays an error message: could not find mime type: application octet-stream
[03:47] <stdin> lewix: see what devices are in "iwconfig" and "ifconfig"
[03:47] <stdin> KomiaPoika: someone on #kde may knwo
[03:48] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m658c6b7f
[03:50] <stdin> lewix: did "sudo airmon-ng wifi0 stat" work?
[03:50] <BluesKaj> magles, i found this page very helpful setting uo the asoundrc file , which is required and is seldom mentioned ,http://www.pcauthority.com.au/print.aspx?CIID=21424&SIID=10
[03:51] <lewix> stdin, command no found
[03:51] <lewix> stdin, ya it does work sorry
[03:52] <stdin> lewix: check that ath1 exists now, it should have said in the output of that command to
[03:52] <lewix> stdin, I can only see ath0 and wifi0
[03:52] <stdin> lewix: even in iwconfig?
[03:53] <Aranel> Hey, how can i install "gspca" and "linux-uvc" ? are there any .deb packets?
[03:53] <lewix> stdin, yep see the pastebin above
[03:53] <stdin> Aranel: both are already installed
[03:54] <Aranel> stdin: ok, thanks.
[03:54] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m4b5e6943
[03:54] <stdin> lewix: ok, time for the "manual" way :p make sure you have the "madwifi-tools" package installed
[03:56] <Aranel> stdin: but Kubuntu still have problems with my webcam, in lsusb ; Z-Star Microelectronics but I can't use my webcam, how can i solve?
[03:56] <lewix> stdin, where can I get it
[03:56] <stdin> Aranel: what do you mean by you can't use it, what have you tried?
[03:56] <stdin> lewix: sudo apt-get install madwifi-tools
[03:57] <lewix> stdin, couldnt find'
[03:57] <Aranel> stdin: I tried in Kopete. Kopete doesn't add my webcam to list.
[03:57] <stdin> Aranel: do you have a file called /dev/video0 ?
[03:58] <stdin> lewix: it's in the universe repository
[03:59] <Aranel> stdin: yes i have.
[03:59] <lewix> stdin, I do have it on...by the way im using kubuntu
[03:59] <magles> stdin, blueskaj: still not working :S
[04:00] <stdin> Aranel: can you see it in kopete's settings (in Devices)?
[04:00] <stdin> !info madwifi-tools
[04:00] <ubotu> madwifi-tools: tools for the Multiband Atheros Driver for WiFi. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.9.2+dfsg-1 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 196 kB
[04:00] <stdin> lewix: ^
[04:00] <Aranel> stdin: No :(
[04:00] <Aranel> stdin: a small blue screen and no webcams on list.
[04:01] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m691634fe
[04:01] <stdin> Aranel: try installing xawtv and see if it work in there
[04:01] <dettoaltrimenti> how can I make links in Kopete open with firefox instead of konqueror?
[04:02] <Yorokobi> lewix, you don't seem to have edgy multiverse enabled
[04:02] <stdin> Yorokobi: it's in universe, not multiverse
[04:02] <stdin> lewix: and it's not in edgy anyway
[04:03] <stdin> lewix: you could make compile it yourself tho
[04:03] <Yorokobi> stdin, nevertheless, it doesn't hurt to have multiverse avaiable, even if it isn't pertinent to the problem at hand
[04:03] <Yorokobi> *available
[04:03] <lewix> stdin: go ahead, I didn't come this far to back down lol
[04:05] <Aranel> stdin: xawtv crashed, i can't try.
[04:05] <Aranel> stdin: X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
[04:05] <stdin> lewix: ok, open a new tab in konsole and type in "sudo -i" to become root
[04:05] <lewix> stdin, done
[04:05] <stdin> Aranel: hmm, looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam ?
[04:06] <stdin> lewix: now "cd /usr/src"
[04:06] <lewix> stdin, done
[04:06] <stdin> lewix: then "wget http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/madwifi/madwifi-0.9.3.1.tar.gz"
[04:06] <stdin> lewix: then, tar xzf madwifi-0.9.3.1.tar.gz
[04:07] <Yorokobi> stdin, lewix: sorry, I didn't join early enough to know what device you're working on. I presume a wifi card?
[04:07] <stdin> lewix: then: cd madwifi-0.9.3.1
[04:07] <lewix> stdin, hold on my connection is slow
[04:07] <stdin> lewix: heh, ok
[04:07] <stdin> Yorokobi: madwifi
[04:07] <Yorokobi> stdin, atheros?
[04:07] <stdin> Yorokobi: yep
[04:08] <Yorokobi> stdin, my atheros worked out of the box in edgy. Madwifi drivers are part of the restricted kernel package
[04:08] <lewix> stdin, done
[04:08] <lewix> Yorokobi, yes sir
[04:08] <stdin> Yorokobi: yeah, but for what he wants he needs the newer drivers
[04:09] <Yorokobi> ah
[04:09] <stdin> lewix: then do "wget http://patches.aircrack-ng.org/madwifi-ng-r2277.patch"
[04:09] <lewix> stdin, done
[04:10] <magles> WHAT SHOULD I DO?
[04:10] <BluesKaj> magles, check 'alsamixer' in the terminal ..use the M key to unmute the cntrls , mute=MM, open=00
[04:11] <wolferine> how do you delete a symbolic soft link?
[04:11] <wolferine> symbolic/soft
[04:11] <stdin> lewix: now you need some tools, do "apt-get install linux-headers$(uname -r) build-essential"
[04:11] <stdin> wolferine: ln -s Target Linkname
[04:11] <wolferine> delete, not create
[04:11] <Raystlin_FM> wolferine: just delete the file
[04:11] <stdin> wolferine: oh, rm linkname
[04:12] <lewix> stdin, E: Couldn't find package linux-headers2.6.17-11-generic
[04:12] <stdin> lewix: opps, "apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential"
[04:12] <stdin> the dash is importand :p
[04:12] <wolferine> ok, i want offer a local dir in /media/hda5 on my FTP, symbolic links wont work, correct?
[04:13] <lewix> stdin, ( what does the dollar sign mean) done
[04:13] <doug_> hey, i want to copy files (data) to a blank DVD disk, and I have a DVD +-RW drive but it keeps telling me something about incorrect filesystem type when i try to mount it so i can then make it non-read only
[04:13] <doug_> location is at /dev/scd0
[04:13] <Yorokobi> doug_, you can't mount a blank CD/DVD
[04:14] <doug_> how do i write to it then?
[04:14] <stdin> lewix: anything between $() is a command to be run, the command "uname -r" prints your kernel version, so $(uname -r) would translate to "2.6.17-11-generic" for you
[04:14] <Yorokobi> doug_, use k3b or Gnonebaker to write to the DVD
[04:14] <doug_> ok thanks!
[04:14] <xst> For some reason kwalletmanager keeps forgetting the WPA key I enter in knetworkmanager for my WLAN. How can I fix that?
[04:14] <Yorokobi> *gnomebaker
[04:14] <lewix> stdin, thanks. it's done
[04:14] <stdin> doug_: use K3B
[04:15] <stdin> lewix: ok, now do "parch -p1 < madwifi-ng-r2277.patch"
[04:15] <doug_> stdin: Yorokobi: is there a difference?
[04:15] <vzduch> parch?
[04:15] <stdin> doug_: gnomebaker is for Gnome, it needs more dependencies on kubuntu, and k3b is already installed
[04:15] <stdin> doug_: and it just has more fratures
[04:15] <doug_> stdin: thanks
[04:16] <stdin> lewix:  "patch -p1 < madwifi-ng-r2277.patch" is the right command
[04:16] <stdin> thanks vzduch :p
[04:16] <lewix> stdin, done
[04:16] <vzduch> yw :)
[04:17] <magles> IT'S ALIVE, IT'S ALIVE!!
[04:17] <stdin> lewix: naw do "make info" and post that to pastebin for me
[04:18] <Yorokobi> doug_, the reason I suggested both is because k3b uses different system calls to the drive(s) than gnomebaker. I can't use k3b on my system but I can use gnomebaker. They both work well enough, though
[04:18] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m6a3ce43e
[04:18] <BluesKaj> magles, amarok ?
[04:18] <stdin> lewix: that's good :) now run "make"
[04:19] <magles> blueskaj, no, the SOUND!
[04:19] <lewix> stdin, done :)
[04:20] <stdin> lewix: ok, now do "make install"
[04:21] <lewix> stdin, remove old modules?
[04:21] <stdin> lewix: yes
[04:21] <lewix> stdin, done
[04:21] <killermach> I need some pointers on getting a 1394 dvcam to send data to kino in linux, thanks for any help
[04:21] <stdin> lewix: ok, now do "modprobe ath_pci"
[04:22] <lewix> stdin, (what was it for) done
[04:22] <jdt> What is the Gutsy (7.10) channel?
[04:22] <stdin> jdt: #ubuntu+1
[04:22] <jdt> stdin: thankyou
[04:23] <stdin> lewix: you just compiled the modules for the atheros card, and modprobe loaded it into the kernel (activated it)
[04:23] <lewix> stdin, ok thanks. I got it
[04:23] <stdin> lewix: now type "exit" to get out of root shell
[04:23] <lewix> stdin, done
[04:24] <stdin> lewix: and try "sudo airmon-ng start wifi0"
[04:24] <doug_> stdin: where would i download the MAD MP3 decoding library?  would i do apt-get install MAD Mp3 decoder plugin?
[04:24] <doug_> library or plugin sorry, lol
[04:25] <stdin> lewix: you should see something like "ath1            Atheros         madwifi-ng VAP (parent: wifi0) (monitor mode enabled"
[04:25] <Aranel> stdin: i tested in camorama, and it gives "could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection."
[04:25] <stdin> doug_: not quite, sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[04:25] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m53e5a953
[04:25] <doug_> thanks lol sorry :p
[04:26] <stdin> lewix: what command did you put in exactly?
[04:26] <lewix> stdin, lewis@lewis-laptop:~$ sudo airmon-ng start wifi0
[04:26] <lewix> stdin its different compared to the first time though
[04:26] <lewix> stdin, now the monitor m ode is enabled on wifi0
[04:27] <stdin> lewix: post the output of "iwconfig" to pastebin
[04:27] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m6791869e
[04:28] <doug_> stdin: is that for just the library or the plugin as well?
[04:28] <stdin> doug_: that's both
[04:28] <doug_> stdin: thanks
[04:28] <lewix> stdin, I tried again and its different now
[04:29] <stdin> lewix: well it has ath1 there anyway now
[04:29] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m4cb4243a
[04:30] <stdin> lewix: and iwconfig shows ath0 and ath1?
[04:30] <lewix> stdin, yes sir
[04:30] <stdin> lewix: good, done :)
[04:30] <BluesKaj> !mp3
[04:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:30] <lewix> stdin, now ath1 and ath2
[04:30] <lewix> and ath0
[04:30] <magles> stdin: How do I install the MS core fonts? :)
[04:30] <stdin> lewix: heh, well you have 2 "VAP"s in monitor mode, but it doesn't really matter
[04:31] <stdin> !msttcorefints
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msttcorefints - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <stdin> !info  msttcorefints
[04:31] <ubotu> Package msttcorefints does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:31] <lewix> stdin ok
[04:31] <stdin> ugg
[04:31] <Yorokobi> !msttcorefonts
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msttcorefonts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <Yorokobi> meh
[04:31] <stdin> magles: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[04:31] <Yorokobi> magles, install the msttcorefonts package (or whatever it is called) :)
[04:31] <stdin> !msttcorefonts
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msttcorefonts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <stdin> !info msttcorefonts
[04:32] <lewix> stdin, sudo airmon-ng start wifi0 ---> what's that command for exactly
[04:32] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 34 kB, installed size 208 kB
[04:32] <stdin> that's the one :p
[04:32] <meuhlol> yep :)
[04:32] <meuhlol> how da ya stdin?
[04:32] <stdin> lewix: it puts the interface in to monitor mode, so it can "listen"
[04:32] <lewix> stdin, ok thanks
[04:32] <lewix> stdin, so I suppose I can use airodump now
[04:33] <stdin> lewix: yeah, and aireplay etc...
[04:33] <meuhlol> sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[04:33] <lewix> hehe...thanks stdin , Ill get back to you
[04:33] <stdin> meuhlol: you need multiverse enabled to get the package
[04:34] <meuhlol> stdin: it's enabled already :D and me i've already installed them :p
[04:34] <magles> stdin: get the message:
[04:34] <magles> E: Kunne ikke opn lsen /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:34] <magles> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:34] <doug_> i looked online on wikis because I've been having sound problems with my Sigmatel STAC laptop audio card.  No sound comes out, but when i press the mute button on my laptop cover, it will say "mute on" , "mute off"  no sound comes out at mute off.  however, sound was coming out when i was running live cd, any thoughts?
[04:35] <stdin> magles: do you have adept open?
[04:35] <magles> stdin: shutted it down
[04:36] <stdin> if you have adept open it will "lock" the database
[04:36] <stdin> !away | meuhlol[away] 
[04:36] <ubotu> meuhlol[away] : You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[04:36] <magles> stdin: well, I shutted it down, but it still isn't working.
[04:36] <stdin> !aptfix
[04:36] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:36] <stdin> magles: run that command ^
[04:37] <meuhlol> okey thnks
[04:37] <lewix> stdin, kismet doenst work no more
[04:37] <meuhlol> i just used "Set globally away" in Konversation :D
[04:37] <doug_> can someone give me pointers on audio?
[04:38] <stdin> meuhlol[away] : then don't have it change your nick or post a message
[04:38] <stdin> lewix: describe "doesn't work"
[04:38] <lewix> stdin, let me paste it
[04:38] <Yorokobi> doug_, opon Konsole and type 'alsamixer' sometimes the right channels are muted and the wrong ones on
[04:38] <gnomefreak> !away | meuhlol[away] 
[04:38] <ubotu> meuhlol[away] : You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[04:38] <doug_> Yorokobi: thanks
[04:39] <stdin> gnomefreak: I already did that
[04:39] <gnomefreak> stdin: ah i didnt see that  (he used it after you said it anyway)
[04:39] <meuhlol[away] > gnomefreak: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[04:39] <meuhlol[away] > ops
[04:40] <meuhlol[away] > would past a line with stdin !away | meuhlol :D
[04:40] <magles> stdin: now i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:41] <stdin> magles: ok, post the whole output (from when you ran the command) to pastebin
[04:41] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m32b77c73..it didnt do it before , why is it doing it now. is it because I tried to run kismet
[04:41] <stdin> lewix: OMG :p you have a lot of devices there, you only need to run that command once
[04:42] <lewix> stdin, how do I reset?
[04:42] <stdin> lewix: post "iwconfig" to pastebin
[04:42] <stdin> lewix: I need a list of all the devices you made
[04:43] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m2c388bf7
[04:44] <doug_> Yorokobi: i'm in alsamixer and everything is maxed out, still no sound
[04:44] <BluesKaj> doug_, this might help explain how to keep alsa working : http://www.pcauthority.com.au/print.aspx?CIID=21424&SIID=10
[04:44] <doug_> could it be that my avi drivers aren't up to date?
[04:45] <doug_> Blueskaj: thanks
[04:45] <stdin> lewix: run this, all one line: for dev in 2 3 ; do sudo wlanconfig ath$dev destroy ; done
[04:46] <Yorokobi> doug_, do you get sound from other sources (ie. ogg/wav/mp3 via amarok/kaffeine)?
[04:46] <lewix> stdin, done
[04:46] <grul> !mp3
[04:46] <doug_> don't have any mp3s available right now let me try cd
[04:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:46] <stdin> lewix: ok, have you setup kismet to use wifi0 ?
[04:46] <doug_> nvm i can't lol, burning a dvd right now
[04:47] <rustalot> anybody know where I can get an .svg of the KDE logo?
[04:47] <lewix> stdin, source=madwifi_ag,wifi0,madwifi
[04:47] <stdin> lewix: ok, now try "sudo kismet"
[04:48] <stdin> rustalot: ask in #kde
[04:48] <lewix> stdin,  it seems to work now although I dont see any connection (yet)
[04:48] <stdin> lewix: give it a sec
[04:49] <stdin> lewix: you can do "iwlist ath0 scan" to see if there are any access points in range
[04:50] <ninhertatil> ...or start kismet
[04:50] <lewix> stdin, 4 access point
[04:50] <ninhertatil> ;-)
[04:50] <MaTiAz> btw, cloning a harddrive with dd is just like dd if=/media/hda1 of=/media/hdb1
[04:50] <MaTiAz> ?
[04:50] <stdin> ninhertatil: he already has :p
[04:50] <lewix> stdin, let me try to run kismet again. ( so I wont need that airmon command again ?)
[04:50] <stdin> MaTiAz: that clones the partition. not the whole disk
[04:51] <MaTiAz> stdin: Oh, how does it clone the disk then?
[04:51] <stdin> lewix: you'll need it after you reboot, but not before
[04:51] <stdin> MaTiAz: take off the "1"
[04:51] <MaTiAz> ah, ok :)
[04:51] <ninhertatil> or restart the networking daemon
[04:51] <MaTiAz> stdin: It'll copy MBR and everything too?
[04:51] <lewix> stdin, ok
[04:51] <stdin> MaTiAz: yep
[04:51] <MaTiAz> stdin: Ok, thanks a lot :)
[04:51] <stdin> np :)
[04:52] <genii> stdin: I wonder if his hda and hdb are same size and geometry
[04:53] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/mf4bf6d7 -->thats what happen the secon time I tried to run kismet
[04:53] <MaTiAz> stdin: btw, does the kubuntu CD contain dd by default?
[04:54] <magles> stdin: allright, now I've installed Wine, how does it work?
[04:55] <Atila> Nice Wine
[04:55] <Atila> I play Diablo II LOD on B.Net with my Kubuntu.
[04:55] <MaTiAz> magles: You just double-click an exe, or run it from terminal with wine <programname> <options> :)
[04:55] <doug_> Yorokobi:  I'm trying a test wave right now using aplay in konsole, but i only get very light static at full volume which would probably mean my channels in alsa are wrong, right?
[04:56] <Yorokobi> doug_, possible, or your sound card is not (fully) supported.
[04:56] <miles> i finally got postgresql working...
[04:56] <lewix> stdin, here is the output when I type in iwconfig: http://pastebin.com/m2e4889d
[04:56] <doug_> Yorokobi:  but it worked in live cd mode
[04:56] <stdin> MaTiAz: yes the CD has DD
[04:57] <stdin> magles: you run it like "wine file.exe"
[04:57] <stdin> lewix: looking...
[04:57] <stdin> genii: hope so :p
[04:57] <MaTiAz> stdin: awesome, thanks :)
[04:57] <magles> stdin: but it's very very slow..
[04:58] <magles> and How can I do that if the game folder is on my Kubuntu desktop?
[04:58] <stdin> magles: the 1st time it is, it's making the files you need
[04:58] <stdin> magles: run the exe in the folder
[04:59] <stdin> lewix: try using this config http://stdin.pastebin.us/38444
[04:59] <rustalot> stdin: I got it from wikimedia commons. unfortunately, adobe Illustrator can't do SVG properly - WTF?
[05:00] <stdin> rustalot: inkscape does svg well
[05:01] <chaotic_> hey im editing  the kde menu adding items  whats the difference between  command path  and work path
[05:01] <magles> stdin: isn't there a folder called \home\magles\.wine+
[05:01] <stdin> chaotic_: the command path is the path to the command, the work path is where it's run from
[05:01] <rustalot> stdin: I don't trust its print controls though, so I'm using it to export a bitmap and using photoshop
[05:02] <lewix> stdin, same thing
[05:02] <chaotic_> for some reason
[05:02] <Yorokobi> doug_, I'm out of ideas. Have you checked the Ubuntu wiki yet? (http://wiki.ubuntu.com)
[05:02] <chaotic_> crossover office
[05:02] <stdin> chaotic_: eg, if a command expects files in the working dir then you'll need to set it. for most command you don't need to enter it
[05:02] <chaotic_> didnt make me a windows app tree
[05:02] <stdin> magles: yes, but with forward slashes and without a +
[05:03] <stdin> chaotic_: ls ~/.wine/drive_c/
[05:04] <doug_> Yorokobi: I'll try looking more.  i think i just ruined a blank dvd though.  told me my disc was finished, and i took it out, now i can't view the data files on it
[05:04] <doug_> adios
[05:05] <magles> stdin: It works now, but it's still, very very very slow..
[05:06] <chaotic_> actually its in the /.cxoffice/
[05:06] <stdin> for crossover office, yes
[05:06] <chaotic_> yeah thats what   im using it with
[05:07] <stdin> lewix: well you only need kismet to find the APs, if you can see them in the scan then you don't really need it
[05:07] <eilker> !beryl
[05:07] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:07] <eilker> !xgl
[05:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:07] <lewix> stdin, do you have a good tutorial about all that process
[05:07] <stdin> lewix: there are a few, I'll find one
[05:08] <lewix> stdin, ok I'm gonna try to use airodump. if it doesnt' work I'll restart my computer and try kismet again
[05:08] <stdin> lewix: restarting is a bad windows habit, normally doesn't do anything in linux
[05:09] <lewix> stdin, ok thanks. I won't then
[05:10] <lewix> stdin, sudo sirodump ath1 filename channel# 1 . isn't working either. It is working but I don't see any connection
[05:10] <psygrass> hi guys, what programme do u advice for terminal-based torrents download?
[05:10] <pag> psygrass, rtorrent maybe?
[05:10] <stdin> lewix: you should select a bssid to listen to
[05:11] <whyhankee> psygrass: my personal favorite is rtorrent
[05:11] <andreas_> german+
[05:11] <andreas_> german
[05:11] <pag> !de | andreas_
[05:11] <ubotu> andreas_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:11] <lewix> stdin, whenever i do iwconfig..I see 'kis ...' in addition of ath0 ath1 on the output. is it kismet?
[05:11] <andreas_> thx
[05:11] <psygrass> pag, whyhankee: thanx a lot
[05:12] <lewix> stdin, ok . I was just following a tutorial I guess this is a bad one :)
[05:12] <chaotic_> told me something i cannot wriite
[05:13] <chaotic_> to kde menu
[05:13] <stdin> lewix: post "iwlist ath0 scan" to pastebin
[05:13] <chaotic_> this  ubuntu sudo  crap   is  really getting to me
[05:14] <Yorokobi> chaotic_, sudo -s to change to root
[05:14] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m1da14570
[05:14] <chaotic_> the problem is
[05:14] <chaotic_> im editing the kmenu thru the gui
[05:15] <stdin> lewix: which one do you want to crack?
[05:15] <Yorokobi> chaotic_, ah, I hope you're using kdesu then instead of sudo
[05:15] <chaotic_> sudo -s dooesnt  effect any thing u try to do with the gui
[05:15] <lewix> stdin, torrilo
[05:16] <Yorokobi> chaotic_, do menu entries require the kdesu/sudo prefix for their commands? if so, why?
[05:16] <chaotic_> i guess they do
[05:17] <pag> chaotic_, no they don't?
[05:17] <vzduch> don't guess, know
[05:17] <chaotic_> well it wont let me write changes
[05:17] <vzduch> there is (almost) nothing in the menus that requires to be run as root
[05:18] <vit___> spaeak spanish???
[05:19] <Yorokobi> !es | vit___
[05:19] <ubotu> vit___: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:19] <stdin> lewix: try "sudo airodump-ng -i -w wep -c 9 ath1"
[05:19] <chaotic_> tell my kde menu that
[05:20] <Yorokobi> chaotic_, are you saying you can't modify menu entries unless you edit it as root?
[05:20] <chaotic_> could not  write
[05:21] <stdin> lewix: then something like: sudo aireplay-ng -3 -a 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo ath1
[05:21] <chaotic_> thats the error it gives me
[05:21] <lewix> stdin, I don't see any connections still
[05:21] <stdin> chaotic_: the only reason it wouldn't be able to write to it is if something in ~.kde/ is not owned by you
[05:21] <chaotic_> menu changes could not be made because of the following problem could not write
[05:21] <genii> Running X as root in some non-root home directory might mess stuff like menus up
[05:22] <magles> stdin: How come when i run Wow.exe my system crashes to the login screen?
[05:22] <stdin> magles: don't know, I don't really run wine. try asking on the #winehq channel
[05:22] <lewix> stdin, it works but there's no bssid,station,pmr,packets....
[05:22] <chaotic_> everything in there is owned by me
[05:23] <elite101> atheros? is that a wif-fi card driver or a an actual card from intel because i have to install that driver to a wireless card for aircrack and i dont know if u need and intel one
[05:23] <elite101> for packet monitoring
[05:23] <stdin> lewix: try this: sudo aireplay-ng -1 0 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo ath1 (in another shell)
[05:24] <Ahmuck> hi, what program comes with kubuntu to recoginze scanners?
[05:24] <stdin> elite101: atheros is the make, madwifi is the driver
[05:24] <stdin> !scan | Ahmuck
[05:24] <ubotu> Ahmuck: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[05:25] <ninhertatil> Ahmuck: try gimp itself
[05:26] <elite101> stdin, can i only use that type of card arthero's? or can i use a linksys card with the madwifi driver???
[05:26] <elite101> i was on a tutorial on how to use aircrack and it sayed athero's? so i thought u only need that card?
[05:26] <elite101> and since i have a linksys
[05:26] <stdin> elite101: no, the madwifi driver is for only atheros. you need the driver for the card you have
[05:27] <elite101> stdin, okay so it kinda patches that card for aircrack kinda thing? so i should be okay to use mine!!!?
[05:27] <lewix> stdin, lewis@lewis-laptop:~$ sudo aireplay-ng -1 0 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo ath1
[05:27] <lewix> ioctl(SIOCGIFINDEX) failed: No such device
[05:27] <Ahmuck> i need device detection.  i think it was kooka
[05:28] <stdin> elite101: take a look at http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php to see if it will work for you
[05:28] <stdin> lewix: is ath1 still there? in iwconfig
[05:29] <Ahmuck> hrm, no, kooka \
[05:29] <lewix> stdin, yes sir, ath0,ath1 and kis
[05:29] <elite101> what is that type of connection anyways? ath1? i wave wlan0 and eth0/1
[05:29] <Ahmuck> not what i was looking for ... i know it comes with kubutu by default, but i uninstall it because i have never had a scanner
[05:29] <stdin> elite101: ath is for atheros, yours will be different
[05:30] <lewix> stdin, wifi0 : no wireless extensions
[05:30] <stdin> lewix: ok, try changing "ath1" to "kismet" or "kis"
[05:31] <lewix> stdin,  no such device
[05:31] <stdin> lewix: which one?
[05:31] <lewix> stdin, both
[05:31] <stdin> hmm
[05:31] <stdin> lewix: you're on edgy yes?
[05:32] <lewix> stdin, I believe so, kubuntu
[05:32] <Graham> What's a good application that allows iso files to be mounted and unmounted easilly?
[05:33] <genii> Graham It is pretty easy to do it manually
[05:33] <Graham> I know, I just don't like to fuss around with it.
[05:33] <Graham> I found gisomount, seems up to the job.
[05:34] <stdin> Graham: you can use my little app if you want :) http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=61955
[05:34] <stdin> lewix: ahh, the version in edgy is quite old, that may be the reason it's not working for you
[05:35] <lewix> stdin, hmm
[05:35] <stdin> !info aircrack-ng edgy
[05:35] <ubotu> aircrack-ng: Wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 460 kB
[05:35] <stdin> !info aircrack-ng
[05:35] <stdin> ...
[05:35] <ubotu> aircrack-ng: wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.6.2-7ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 186 kB, installed size 528 kB
[05:35] <sparrw> Can anyone recommend WYSIWYG page layout software that can visibly arrange text across multiple pages that will be trimmed?  For making banners and such.  I know a lot of graphics programs can "just do" that sort of printing, but I want to see where the page breaks will be while editing.  InDesign can almost do it.  Scribus apparently can't.
[05:35] <MaTiAz> hey, how do I determine which HDD is /dev/hda and which one's /dev/hdb?
[05:35] <MaTiAz> I don't wanna clone the wrong one
[05:36] <sparrw> mathieu: hda is primary master, hdb is primary slave
[05:36] <stdin> MaTiAz: sudo fdisk -l should help
[05:37] <lewix> stdin, shoul I upgrade
[05:37] <stdin> lewix: it's up to you
[05:37] <stdin> lewix: it works on feisty, because I've done it
[05:37] <MaTiAz> stdin: hmm, dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb doesn't seem to work
[05:38] <lewix> stdin, tell me what you think and Ill do it. ( i dont know how to upgrade though)
[05:38] <stdin> MaTiAz: define "doesn't work"
[05:38] <MaTiAz> stdin: http://rafb.net/p/QyUwiI72.html
[05:38] <MaTiAz> sorry :)
[05:38] <lewix> stdin, also if you know a good tutorial please let me know
[05:39] <stdin> lewix: there is a guide to upgrading here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#head-6146e7b1dd7a50f5029fd0704e38cad9420c000a
[05:41] <lewix> stdin, I use kubuntu :)
[05:41] <magles> stdin: how do I remove application (console version) ?
[05:41] <stdin> MaTiAz: try http://pcquest.ciol.com/content/linux/2005/105041202.asp
[05:41] <harmental> hey guys....
[05:41] <harmental> which is the best tool translate latex to html?? tex4ht? latex2html? tth? hevea?
[05:41] <stdin> magles: apt-get remove package
[05:42] <stdin> lewix: yes, I know, you're on the #kubuntu channel and I gave you the kubuntu instructions
[05:42] <Graham> I think I'm gona have a go at setting up my own little iso mount routine.
[05:42] <stdin> Graham: nah, just use mine :p
[05:42] <Solifugus> What is Canonical's business model?  I have no idea where they make their money?
[05:42] <lewix> stdin, I think you did a mistake then because I see the ubuntu instruction
[05:43] <stdin> Solifugus: they make money with commercial support
[05:43] <Graham> Solifugus: Mark Shuttleworth :P
[05:43] <magles> stdin: thanks!
[05:43] <stdin> lewix: you don't see
[05:43] <Graham> stdin: But I'll be more impressed if I do my own.
[05:43] <stdin> "Network upgrade for Kubuntu desktops (recommended)"
[05:43] <stdin> Graham: heh, well fee free to steel/hack mine, to get you started
[05:44] <Solifugus> but that doesn't make sense... it is extremely rare that any company has made money from technical support services...
[05:44] <Graham> You know in Konquer you can right click a file and get an actions menu, is there I was to add to that menu?
[05:44] <stdin> Solifugus: RedHat do
[05:44] <elite101> stdin: i can only use my pci card for aircrack, mad-wifi doesnt support usb :( but it does support my pci/d-link!!! :)
[05:45] <Solifugus> stdin: redhat makes it money from Professional Services--consulting support, and shut down their own non-enterprise business because tech. support was too expensive for them to provide.
[05:45] <stdin> Graham: download my package, it has that. take a look in the installGUI.sh file
[05:45] <stdin> Graham: hack away :)
[05:45] <Graham> Fine...
[05:45] <lewix> stdin, ok my bad :)
[05:45] <stdin> Graham: it'll give you some ideas
[05:46] <neusonce> ok guys, im almost in tears, i cant install flash or java, i have  followed every net guide you can throw at me
[05:46] <Graham> But if there's anything I don't like, I'm gona edit the fuck out of it, mkay?
[05:46] <neusonce> PLEASE GOD HELP
[05:46] <stdin> Solifugus: TBH, canonical aren't really making a profit
[05:46] <Agent_137> neusonce: are you using 64 bit os?
[05:46] <stdin> Graham: it's GPL, do what you want with iy
[05:46] <neusonce> yes i believe so
[05:47] <Agent_137> neusonce: don't.
[05:47] <stdin> !flash64 | neusonce
[05:47] <neusonce>  how can i not ?
[05:47] <Agent_137> flash isn't going to work unless you jump through a bunch of hoops, sacrifice a kitten, and get lucky
[05:47] <ubotu> neusonce: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:47] <Solifugus> stdin: actually, their website seems to focus on "engineering and professional services" (http://www.canonical.com/)--so I guess it's the same as Redhat's business, essentially.
[05:47] <Agent_137> install the 32 bit kbuntu
[05:47] <neusonce> shut up ubotu
[05:47] <stdin> Agent_137: flask is "ok" on 64bit now
[05:47] <Solifugus> stdin: only redhat doesn't distribute their's for free...
[05:48] <Agent_137> stdin: pics or shens. my SOUNDcard doesn't work in 64 bit, much less flash
[05:48] <stdin> Agent_137: tried that guide?
[05:48] <lewix> stdin, once it's done.  airodump, and aireplay are suppoed to work correctly, right?
[05:48] <neusonce> whats the command to find out if youre machine is a 64 bit
[05:48] <neusonce> -name
[05:48] <neusonce> ?
[05:48] <stdin> lewix: should do, they do here
[05:48] <pag> neusonce, ie. uname -m
[05:48] <Graham> stdin: I like it, but there's only one place I'll ever want it to mount so I'm gona change it a bit.
[05:49] <Agent_137> stdin: no, but i see it's emulating 32 bit for firefox, that still doesn't sovle my soundcard issues
[05:49] <stdin> Graham: fine :)
[05:49] <Agent_137> further, it doesn't seem worth the effort to gain a little speed
[05:49] <lewix> stdin, by the way , why do you always type in airodump-ng instead of airodum or aireplay-ng instead of aireplay
[05:49] <chaotic_> how  come  microsoft outlook is not connecting to my mail servers
[05:49] <neusonce> x86_64
[05:49] <neusonce> god
[05:49] <neusonce> no
[05:49] <neusonce> OK
[05:49] <chaotic_> i usto work   at comcast tech support so i know all the settings
[05:50] <neusonce> IM WILLING TO SACRAFICE A SMALL EUROPEAN CHILD
[05:50] <chaotic_> i know theyre good
[05:50] <stdin> lewix: the OLD packages are without the -ng, but they aren't maintained anymore, so they are -ng now (next generation)
[05:50] <Graham> stdin: I reckon you should make that into a package for the kubuntu repository.
[05:50] <stdin> chaotic_: because outlook sux?
[05:50] <lewix> stdin, ok thanks.. anyway I'll get back to you when the upgrade is done.thanks
[05:51] <Agent_137> neusonce: try that guide stdin poasted if you haven't already. if that fails, just go back to 32 bit kbuntu, it'll work just fine on your 64 bit machine.
[05:52] <stdin> Graham: I could, but it's just a shell script. and there is also fuseiso that can mount ISO (with fuse). but it's there for anyone who wants it
[05:52] <Agent_137> neusonce: then installing flash is easy, just DL the tarball and drag it the contents into the appropriate folder for konq, don't bother with that /.flash-player-installer-stupid-ass-command shit
[05:52] <neusonce> GOD DAMM
[05:52] <stdin> !language | for all
[05:52] <ubotu> for all: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:52] <Agent_137> ...
[05:52] <neusonce>  do i need to download another version of ubuntu
[05:53] <neusonce> i cant just change a setting or to ?
[05:53] <Agent_137> you'd have to do a new version
[05:53] <Agent_137> are you on kbuntu or ubuntu?
[05:53] <neusonce> ......
[05:53] <neusonce> ubuntu
[05:53] <Agent_137> why
[05:53] <neusonce> agnet
[05:53] <Agent_137> kbuntu has better programs.
[05:53] <Agent_137> and you're in the kbuntu channel
[05:53] <Agent_137> kubuntu, rather
[05:53] <neusonce> personaly  agent
[05:53] <Graham> stdin: I know it's small but it's awesome.
[05:53] <Agent_137> personaly.
[05:53] <neusonce>  whats better
[05:53] <neusonce> and if i can ask why
[05:54] <stdin> Graham: thanks :)
[05:54] <Agent_137> kubuntu is better because the programs are better
[05:54] <Agent_137> it has digikam and a better mud client and if you -have- to have firefox you can install it
[05:54] <Agent_137> but konq works just as well.
[05:54] <neusonce> so i need to download kubuntu 32 bit
[05:54] <Agent_137> also i find kopete superior to gaim.
[05:54] <miles> konq's only pitfall is that it isnt supported by yahoo.com
[05:55] <Agent_137> and it has Ktorrent which is a graphical torrent client that actually works fine
[05:55] <neusonce> kubuntu is KDE
[05:55] <Agent_137> who the hell uses yahoo for anything?
[05:55] <Agent_137> yes neusonce.
[05:55] <miles> mr. yahoo
[05:55] <neusonce> yahoos evil
[05:55] <neusonce>  ok
[05:55] <miles> so is google
[05:55] <miles> but i guess its the lesser of the two
[05:55] <neusonce>  is KDE more stable ?
[05:55] <Agent_137> google is not evil
[05:55] <chaotic_> how do i get konversation to launch when i click  on an irc link
[05:55] <neusonce> i use google
[05:55] <Agent_137> google is borg evil.
[05:55] <Agent_137> not malicious . . . just . . . all encompassing.
[05:55] <neusonce>  i own google shares
[05:56] <Agent_137> anyway neusonce, i had your same troubles
[05:56] <Agent_137> and i'm offering you the solution i used. might be a better one, but mine definitely worked. so, that's that.
[05:56] <neusonce>  and i guess i only really brought them becuase  i couldent believe that  a search engine could go  public
[05:56] <neusonce>  why
[05:56] <neusonce>  whats the key differnce between 32bit and 64
[05:57] <Agent_137> 64bit offers speed advantages WHEN PROGRAMS ARE BUILT FOR IT
[05:57] <Agent_137> which they aren't.
[05:57] <BluesKaj> hardware support
[05:57] <neusonce> by logic shoudent 64 bit be faster
[05:57] <miles> and it really isnt that much of an advantage
[05:57] <Agent_137> should be faster when shit is programmed to USE it
[05:57] <Agent_137> which it isn't.
[05:57] <Agent_137> give 64-bit another year or two.
[05:57] <Agent_137> just like dual cores
[05:57] <neusonce> i really need blender  will that be in kubuntu
[05:57] <miles> half-life 2 64 bit ran a tad bit faster
[05:57] <Agent_137> the hardware right now is WAY WAY WAY ahead of all software.
[05:58] <BluesKaj> none at all , since most apps aren't written for it...and the hardware support sucks on my setup
[05:58] <neusonce>   and will the net magically work lon kubuntu like on ubuntu
[05:58] <stdin> chaotic_: take a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&id=92390
[05:58] <Agent_137> if blender works on ubuntu and gnome it'll work on kde
[05:58] <neusonce> ok
[05:58] <neusonce>  serisouly
[05:59] <neusonce> i was almost intears
[05:59] <Agent_137> what do you mean the net?
[05:59] <neusonce>  iv been trying for 4 days for a simple java program
[05:59] <Agent_137> you'll have to install java and flash
[05:59] <Agent_137> but it'll actually WORK
[05:59] <Agent_137> once you've installed it
[05:59] <Agent_137> there is some trouble getting konq to work with flash, but it's not systematic
[05:59] <neusonce>  well the internet works on ubuntu with out any configuration
[05:59] <neusonce>  i was expecting a hell of a time
[06:00] <Agent_137> oh yea
[06:00] <Agent_137> the same for kubuntu
[06:00] <Agent_137> just not flash or java
[06:00] <Agent_137> hey LISTen
[06:00] <Agent_137> when you get it installed
[06:00] <Agent_137> get the flash tarball from the flash site
[06:00] <vzduch> !enter | ag
[06:00] <ubotu> ag: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:00] <vzduch> !enter | Agent_137
[06:00] <ubotu> Agent_137: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:00] <stdin> Agent_137: you know flash is in the repos?
[06:00] <Agent_137> wtf is repos.
[06:00] <vzduch> omfg
[06:01] <stdin> Agent_137: repositories
[06:01] <Agent_137> oh. yea, doesn't work
[06:01] <stdin> Agent_137:  oh yeah it does
[06:01] <Agent_137> not for me
[06:01] <Agent_137> tried it
[06:01] <vzduch> works fine here
[06:01] <stdin> Agent_137: it downloads the EXACT same file
[06:01] <Agent_137> yea well it doesn't put it in the right spot, konq wouldn't find it on a scan
[06:01] <stdin> Agent_137: yes, it will
[06:02] <vzduch> and?  you can always put your own path into Konq
[06:02] <Graham> stdin: How do I change the default location?
[06:02] <Agent_137> stdin: IT DIDNT.
[06:02] <neusonce> ok but a few more q's
[06:02] <Agent_137> vzduch: yea, but not if i don't know where the hell the repo put the so file.
[06:02] <stdin> Agent_137: it put a link in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ and that's where konq looks
[06:02] <neusonce>  linux is rather impervious to virus's, correct?
[06:03] <Agent_137> stdin: konq looks in a lot of place, not just there, and if i'm having to move crap around after getting it from a repo, why the hell not just get it from the site?
[06:03] <Agent_137> neusonce: not only does it have more robust security, no one bohters to write virii for it
[06:03] <stdin> Agent_137: the package sets it up for you , so you don't have to move anything
[06:03] <neusonce> why is that?
[06:03] <neusonce> mutual respect ?
[06:03] <neusonce> hatred for windows
[06:03] <Agent_137> stdin: read my words: didn't f'ing work.
[06:04] <stdin> read mine, it did
[06:04] <Agent_137> GOOD
[06:04] <Agent_137> IM GLAD
[06:04] <stdin> i'm glad your glad, now we're all glad
[06:05] <Agent_137> not sure, neusonce, but i imagine they don't want to pee in their own backyard, but also i imagine the linux community can respond faster to such threats.
[06:05] <Agent_137> virii depend on security holes
[06:05] <stdin> Graham: just remove all the places $dir is set and make it static
[06:05] <Agent_137> and security holes are patched -real- quick in linux
[06:06] <neusonce> so i should be downloading Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn with PC (Intel x86) ?
[06:06] <neusonce> remember guys im a linux baby
[06:07] <neusonce> i was once, i imagine like you
[06:07] <neusonce> unknowledged in the ways of linux
[06:07] <Agent_137> i'm still a noob, but yes, neusonce, that one.
[06:07] <Graham> dir=/media/iso :)
[06:07] <neusonce> man
[06:07] <Agent_137> neusonce: i gotta get moving, PM me any questions if the channel at large doesn't answer them, and i'll take a look when i get back
[06:08] <neusonce> i brought a 4k machine   and within a few weeks of putting up with vistas shit i was like, fuck this
[06:08] <elite101> hey can u get a command prompt for Kubuntu???
[06:08] <elite101> like a windows one
[06:08] <Graham> Konsole
[06:09] <stdin> !language | neusonce
[06:09] <ubotu> neusonce: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:09] <cloakable> Graham: He might want a dos prompt rather than a bash one :P
[06:09] <PriceChild> lol "like a windows one"
[06:09] <stdin> you've been warned
[06:09] <neusonce> thanks agent
[06:10] <dr_willis> export PS1="C:"
[06:10] <dr_willis> :)
[06:10] <chaotic_> hey the ubuntu server is irc.freenode.net right
[06:10] <cloakable> Yup
[06:10] <elite101> yeah i need a cmd. i made this code to turn it into a mssenger by ip adress calling :) but i cant us terminal (obv)
[06:10] <cloakable> Also irc.ubuntu.com
[06:10] <dr_willis> that is the freenode server, which hosts the ubuntu channel. and this one. :)
[06:10] <Graham> freenode isn't ubuntu specific
[06:10] <elite101> i my friend uses freenode (xchaT) hes onwindows
[06:10] <Graham> ##linux #linuxforums #slackware #debian #fedora #redhat #opensuse
[06:10] <chaotic_> just downloaded excursion was always my fav mirc script for windows
[06:11] <cloakable> Graham: I know. Debian is on here too :)
[06:11] <dr_willis> irc.ubuntu.com irc.freenode.net   - both are part of the freenode network.
[06:11] <Graham> You get the idea :)
[06:11] <elite101> chaotic_: where do i download that?
[06:11] <Graham> dr_willis: Are you for real?
[06:11] <Agent_137> neusonce: check the pm
[06:11] <chaotic_> excursion.humr.org
[06:11] <dr_willis> Why would you not think im real?
[06:11] <gnomefreak> iirc irc.ubuntu.com IS irc.freenode.net
[06:11] <Graham> stdin: What about actions > mount file, what does that do?
[06:11] <elite101> is it just like the windows one
[06:11] <dr_willis> !freenode
[06:11] <gnomefreak> it fowards to freenode.net
[06:11] <ubotu> freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[06:11] <stdin> yeah, it's an DNS alisa
[06:12] <elite101> cant i get a friend to send me MSDOS and run it under wine???
[06:12] <elite101> lol
[06:12] <dr_willis> !info freedos
[06:12] <ubotu> Package freedos does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:12] <dr_willis> !info dosbox
[06:12] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (feisty), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[06:12] <dr_willis> !info dosemu
[06:12] <ubotu> dosemu: The Linux DOS Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.2-8 (feisty), package size 947 kB, installed size 2204 kB
[06:12] <stdin> Graham: it runs the mountfile script in lines 102-125
[06:13] <stdin> Graham: it basically calls the script with $file already set
[06:13] <kenshin6x> hi! need help for monitor resolution! anybody can help me?
[06:13] <dr_willis> !fixres
[06:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:13] <dr_willis> checked there yet?
[06:14] <Graham> stdin: You rule :)
[06:14] <stdin> Graham: yes, yes I do :p
[06:16] <Ryaren> hi
[06:16] <Ryaren> how can i check what CD-ROMs i have?
[06:17] <sveweck> uh, look around your room?
[06:17] <sveweck> kidding :)
[06:17] <kenshin6x> man, my resolution is instable, ! all time i startx my resolution start in 640x480 mode, but my xorg.conf is "OK"! other users of the my pc can use 1280x1024.. but at 2 days ago, my resolution no change... i use the command "xandr" for manual change, but when restart X all back again (640x480)... any solution for this? (sorry for my english)
[06:17] <sveweck> look in media:/
[06:17] <dr_willis> yea.. slashdot has a 'why linux has failed on the desktop' artical.. wonder how wrong it is...
[06:17] <sveweck> (or /media if using kubuntu)
[06:17] <Ryaren> but my problem is that any cd-roms connected
[06:17] <sveweck> dr_willis: heh, another one?
[06:17] <dr_willis> sveweck,  yep.. so far - it dont seem to actually say much
[06:18] <sveweck> Ryaren: do you mean CD drives?
[06:18] <dr_willis> a Kernel Developer got irate and ranted, and quit... that proves linux fails?
[06:18] <Ryaren> yes
[06:18] <Ryaren> No CD drives connected
[06:18] <Ryaren> but i have
[06:18] <Graham> stdin: Really, you need to put that script in the repositories.
[06:18] <DexterF> someone ever installed fglrx and had random system lockups when using 3D apps like Google Earth?
[06:18] <stdin> Graham:
[06:18] <stdin> Graham: heh, I can always ask :p
[06:19] <zombielion> im using kubuntu 7.04 what is a good prog to use to burn dvds to play on the dvd player
[06:19] <logixoul> Ryaren:  maybe check KInfoCenter -> CD-ROM
[06:19] <elite101> i need a better dos the excurision is .rar?
[06:19] <logixoul> zombielion: k3b
[06:19] <kenshin6x> man, my resolution is instable, ! all time i startx my resolution start in 640x480 mode, but my xorg.conf is "OK"! other users of the my pc can use 1280x1024.. but at 2 days ago, my resolution no change... i use the command "xandr" for manual change, but when restart X all back again (640x480)... any solution for this? (sorry for my english) ... anybody can help me?
[06:19] <dr_willis> DexterF,  ive just had hanging issues when loggint out.. not tried googleearth however.
[06:19] <elite101> anyone know of a good dos prompt
[06:19] <DexterF> zombielion: only burn an iso or incl mastering?
[06:20] <dr_willis> elite101,  you may want to try tio make a little more sence.
[06:20] <logixoul> kenshin6x: don't repeat so often ;) . 10 minutes is ok, 2 minutes is not
[06:20] <elite101> i need a dos prompt for kubuntu
[06:20] <Graham> stdin: Either you do it, or I do.
[06:20] <logixoul> elite101: the proper term is "console" or "terminal". remember that.
[06:20] <DexterF> dr_willis: had some weird problem back then on slackware, video wouls stop for a second or so once every 1-2 hours. when this occured and 3D was active, system froze. haven't seen that on kub so far tho
[06:21] <elite101> lol no not really
[06:21] <logixoul> elite101: you can use Konsole for that.
[06:21] <zombielion> i just want to take a avi and burn it to a dvd to watch  on the dvd player
[06:21] <elite101> no u cant
[06:21] <ph3r> How can I turn digital sound output off?
[06:21] <elite101> lol
[06:21] <logixoul> elite101: ?
[06:21] <stdin> Graham: heh, you can if you want :p
[06:21] <elite101> is there  a way i can download MSDOS?
[06:21] <zombielion> maybe if i used it for like a picture slide show to play on the dvd player i might want to add a menu or something
[06:21] <dr_willis> elite101,  not legally, there is a freedos alternative
[06:21] <DexterF> zombielion: different. need to convert to mpeg2 first, then master a dvd. there's apps for that tho. look in Adept.
[06:21] <logixoul> elite101: and this has what to do with KDE?
[06:21] <ph3r> How can I turn digital sound output off? ?
[06:22] <elite101> ohh nvm
[06:22] <Graham> stdin: I shall.
[06:22] <dr_willis> elite101,  ther are also dos emulators under linux.  time to hit google. I  mentioned them earlier
[06:22] <elite101> okat
[06:22] <dr_willis> dosbox - runs most old dos games very well.
[06:22] <chaotic1> im back
[06:22] <chaotic1> do guys see colors on me its set by default
[06:22] <elite101> lol the one person said konsole is no diff then dos. lmao type ipconfig or ipconfig/all.
[06:22] <ismael__> how can I install my vivanco IseeU webcam in ubuntu?
[06:22] <logixoul> Hi. I have both GRUB (one in MBR and another one in a Wubi virtual partition) and the NT bootloader (in the Windows partition). I wanna get rid of the MBR GRUB (so I go straight into the NT bootloader). How do I do that?
[06:23] <elite101> terminal is for bash i need plain dos
[06:23] <dr_willis> ismael__,  id do somt googling on that webcam and linux to even see if its supported at all. Ive got several webcams here with no linux support.
[06:23] <BluesKaj> kenshin6x, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:24] <stdin> logixoul: you need to run "fixmbr" from the windows restore CD
[06:24] <dr_willis> elite101,  then install a dos emulator.
[06:24] <dr_willis> the 'terminal' can run several shells, bash, csh, fish, others... :)
[06:25] <elite101> okay i am i need dos to open up a .bat file i made
[06:25] <logixoul> stdin: Right, ok. Do you know if that will retain the current OS selection menu I have in there? (Kubuntu and Windows)
[06:25] <dr_willis> elite101,  we are back to 'install a dos emulator' then...
[06:26] <vzduch> logixoul: you're contradicting yourself.. you said you want to get rid of Grub
[06:26] <stdin> logixoul: it will overwrite grub and just go to the ntldr, I don't know if it can boot linux tho.
[06:27] <vzduch> it can, I've done it before
[06:27] <logixoul> vzduch: yep. Didn't you know the NT bootloader also has the OS-choice-menu feature? :)
[06:27] <stdin> logixoul: but can it boot linux?
[06:27] <Graham> stdin: I don't have a clue how to make a .deb file... none at all.
[06:27] <stdin> you should check before
[06:27] <vzduch> I guess it can't _boot_ Linux.. it can pass to a Linux bootloader
[06:28] <logixoul> exactly :)
[06:28] <stdin> !packaging | Graham take a look
[06:28] <ubotu> Graham take a look: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[06:28] <vzduch> iirc, I had it call a Grub installed on the / partition
[06:29] <vzduch> but when the Grub in the MBR calls the ntldr via chainloader it's no different, only the other way round
[06:29] <elite101> what is there just a link i can download it from? or use adept or something
[06:29] <logixoul> stdin: one of my GRUBs is installed on a virtual partition (a loopmounted file from a NTFS partition). It's what the NT bootloader boots for me.
[06:29] <vzduch> and you can configure Grub to not show on boot
[06:30] <Silent_G> hello
[06:30] <Silent_G> can someone tell me how to compile a custom program
[06:30] <logixoul> vzduch: yeah, but for that I need to have a separate configfile. Is there a way to do that?
[06:30] <Silent_G> i mean if i created a C++ document and i want to compile it how do i do it?
[06:30] <vzduch> Silent_G: the program should come w/ instructions on how to build
[06:30] <Silent_G> vzduch,
[06:30] <Silent_G> no its a program i made
[06:31] <Silent_G> just a small program
[06:31] <pag> Silent_G, simple c++? g++ file -o file2
[06:31] <vzduch> and if you wrote it yourself you should know how to use a compiler.. o0
[06:31] <dr_willis> vzduch,  :)
[06:31] <dr_willis> helloworld.c
[06:31] <Silent_G> yes im taking a tutrial on C++ language
[06:31] <Silent_G> how to write programmes
[06:31] <pag> Silent_G, ie. g++ code.cc -o myfirstexe
[06:31] <stdin> Silent_G: get a good book, it helps
[06:31] <Silent_G> on windows i used to have DevC++ wich has a gui and i used the compile button and compiled automatic
[06:32] <vzduch> even these have instructions on how to use gcc/g++
[06:32] <stdin> Silent_G: kdevelop is a nice IDE
[06:32] <Silent_G> in what format should the files be save for the gcc to compile them?
[06:32] <Silent_G> i dont think .cpp like dev right?
[06:33] <stdin> Silent_G: just text files, the extention doesn't really mater, but normally .cpp, .cc and .c++ are all good
[06:33] <Silent_G> ah ok
[06:33] <vzduch> the file extension is arbitrary.. convention is .c for C source code and .cpp/.cc/.c++/.cxx for C++ source code
[06:33] <logixoul> Hey, what happens if GRUB can't find its configfile (or the partition it used to be on)?
[06:34] <eagles0513875> anyone running a x86_64 system
[06:34] <Silent_G> and in what format will the gcc make the compiled file?
[06:34] <stdin> Silent_G: ELF on linux
[06:34] <Silent_G> ic
[06:34] <Silent_G> that file without extension?
[06:34] <logixoul> yes
[06:34] <Silent_G> also do someone know a good c++ tutrial
[06:34] <Silent_G> or a book maybe
[06:35] <Silent_G> but i prefer online
[06:35] <logixoul> ask in ##c++
[06:35] <stdin> Silent_G: the book I'm reading now is "C++, A Beginer's Guide", by Herbert Schildt
[06:35] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, I'm running x86 on my AMD64
[06:35] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: what version of kde u running
[06:35] <Silent_G> stdin,  is it an online book ? or a book to buy?
[06:36] <BluesKaj> 3.5.7
[06:36] <stdin> Silent_G: paperback
[06:36] <Silent_G> * ke- has quit ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )")
[06:36] <Silent_G> how can he use noname script on linux
[06:36] <Silent_G> O_O
[06:36] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: ok what is ur music encoded in
[06:36] <BluesKaj> wav
[06:36] <vzduch> Silent_G: mIRC is said to run in Wine
[06:36] <vzduch> *ugh*
[06:36] <eagles0513875> crap
[06:36] <eagles0513875> just realized something
[06:37] <Silent_G> oh is ee
[06:37] <Silent_G> * i see
[06:37] <Silent_G> noname script rocks
[06:37] <vzduch> Use force. Use irssi.
[06:37] <lewix> stdin, it takes a long ass time :)
[06:37] <BluesKaj> vzduch, yes, mirc runs fine in wine
[06:37] <stdin> lewix: yeah :p
[06:37] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: u wont have my problem cuz in gutsy they use the next version of xine
[06:37] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: u dont have a machine with gutsy on it do ya
[06:38] <chaotic1> hey guys how do i get mirc to open up when i click on irc links
[06:38] <BluesKaj> I use wav cuz I'm a bit of an audio snob , don't care or lossless codecs
[06:38] <Silent_G> vzduch, but irssi is not gui
[06:38] <stdin> BluesKaj: flac?
[06:38] <BluesKaj> correction: lossy
[06:38] <vzduch> Silent_G: where's the problem w/ that?
[06:39] <eagles0513875> stdin: im going nuts with this gutsy issue i have i need another 64bit usr to confirm it
[06:39] <vzduch> BluesKaj: do you ever hear a difference between WAV/FLAC and >128kbps Ogg Vorbis?
[06:39] <stdin> eagles0513875: i'm on 32bit
[06:39] <vzduch> eagles0513875: ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:39] <eagles0513875> stdin: i know im just saying
[06:40] <eagles0513875> nobody in there seems to have one
[06:40] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, I don't mind flac, cuz it's lossless, but not a fan of mp3 , altho i do tolerate it for a while on internet radio :)
[06:40] <eagles0513875> lol
[06:40] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: im still trying to figure out how with alsa my audio sounds so much better than in winblows
[06:41] <stdin> BluesKaj: ogg/vorbis dose retain a lot of quality at lower bitrates than compared to mp3
[06:41] <BluesKaj> vzduch, yeah,.. being a drummer the cymbals sounds are especially thin and flangy sounding and guitars as well
[06:41] <lewix> stdin, do I have to restart after the upgrade
[06:41] <neverblue> eagles0513875, send me your report when you have it complete :)
[06:41] <stdin> lewix: yeah, when it's finished
[06:42] <lewix> stdin, it's finished. brb
[06:42] <eagles0513875> neverblue: lol it wont be for quite some time it looks like cuz no other gutsy 64bit user seems to have the problem
[06:42] <neverblue> :)
[06:43] <eagles0513875> neverblue: u wanna try and help me
[06:43] <logixoul> Guys, what happens if GRUB can't find its configfile (or even the partition it used to be on)?
[06:44] <lewix> how do I find out the edgy version im using
[06:44] <venik> does anyone know how to clear the screen in Kopete?
[06:44] <stdin> !version | lewix
[06:44] <ubotu> lewix: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[06:44] <eagles0513875> !xine
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <eagles0513875> !libxine
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <logixoul> !xinelib
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinelib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <eagles0513875> lol
[06:45] <neverblue> eagles0513875, sometimes #xmms knows a thing or two about audio
[06:46] <eagles0513875> whats xmms
[06:46] <lewix> If you are using the Edgy KDE 3.5.6 repository, also add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/ edgy main
[06:46] <eagles0513875> !xmms
[06:46] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:46] <lewix> I don't understand that step
[06:46] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok ill go in there
[06:46] <Yorokobi> eagles0513875, xmms is similar (in looks, at least) to Winamp
[06:46] <lewix> stdin, see above please
[06:46] <neverblue> eagles0513875, when a person types something with a # in front of it, usually means an irc channel
[06:46] <neverblue> xmms is based on winamp
[06:47] <logixoul> it's not
[06:47] <stdin> lewix: but you aren't on edgy
[06:47] <logixoul> it's a winamp clone
[06:47] <lewix> stdin, : it's still the upgrade part
[06:47] <lewix> stdin, I just clicked on upgrade..I didn't add that repository
[06:47] <stdin> lewix: can you choose to ignore/continue?
[06:48] <eagles0513875> neverblue: forgot what that channel was for
[06:48] <lewix> stdin, ok let me be clear. I opened adept manager and just clicked on upgrade. now I just saw that I skipped that step
[06:48] <edulix> can knetworkmanager setpup proxies? because in different networks I have different proxies...
[06:48] <edulix> (or no proxy at all)
[06:49] <neverblue> eagles0513875, they know their shit about audio
[06:49] <neverblue> you just have to word your questions carefully
[06:49] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:49] <eagles0513875> neverblue: ok lol
[06:49] <venik> Is Kopete still being developed, or is it eclipsed by Pidgin?
[06:49] <lewix> stdin, the upgrade is done though, but I skipped that step and I'm not sure if it was necessary
[06:49] <stdin> lewix: if you didn't add the kubuntu.org kde-3.5.6 repo to your sources then that's ok
[06:49] <lewix> stdin, should I?
[06:49] <logixoul> venik: it's still in development. Pidgin is an unrelated project.
[06:50] <BluesKaj> Kopete works quite well, I don't see the need for pidgin ...found it clunky
[06:50] <neverblue> ;)
[06:50] <venik> I tried file transfer in both, but it failed in both
[06:50] <runlevelten> pidgin is has an ugly, badly designed interface
[06:50] <stdin> lewix: no, it was if you did add it before, then you'd have to do that. if you didn't then you can ignore it
[06:50] <eagles0513875> i love kopete
[06:50] <runlevelten> more of a gnome app ;)
[06:50] <eagles0513875> runlevelten: its renamed gaim lol
[06:50] <venik> does anyone know how to clear the screen in Kopete?
[06:50] <runlevelten> indeed it is
[06:51] <stdin> venik: look in the menus??
[06:51] <lewix> stdin, ok cool I restart now
[06:51] <BluesKaj> Konversation has a few flaws but i prefer it to xchat for IRC
[06:51] <Yorokobi> venik, does Ctl-l work ?
[06:51] <venik> I did, of course-- did not find it
[06:51] <venik> no
[06:51] <Yorokobi> venik, drop it and use screen+irssi :)
[06:52] <venik> wtf is that?
[06:52] <stdin> maybe you can't do it in kopete, it's not a real IRC client anyway
[06:52] <Yorokobi> !info irssi | venik
[06:52] <ubotu> venik: irssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB
[06:52] <venik> I much prefer irc clients, like Klient, but many of my friends use Yahoo and AIM messengers, so...
[06:52] <Yorokobi> !info bitlbee
[06:52] <ubotu> bitlbee: An IRC to other chat networks gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 308 kB, installed size 780 kB
[06:53] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: I meant to say, you should consider extracting the contents of $KDEDIR/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml and using it in your konversationrc
[06:53] <eagles0513875> neverblue: xmms room is dead
[06:53] <stdin> venik: you can't use 2 apps?
[06:53] <Yorokobi> screen+irssi+bitlbee = terminal irc/im happiness
[06:53] <logixoul> Guys, what happens if GRUB can't find its configfile (or even the partition it used to be on)?
[06:53] <eagles0513875> !patience
[06:53] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:53] <venik> you can't use 2 Operating Systems?  Of course we can, but one is better than two
[06:53] <runlevelten> a small awk script could probably turn it into something you can just >>
[06:53] <vzduch> eagles0513875: what do you expect of an app that's been unmaintained for 4 years?
[06:53] <Yorokobi> logixoul, something "not good" probably. Try it and find out.
[06:53] <venik> or three
[06:53] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, err..how would I do that, not much of a scripter
[06:54] <eagles0513875> lol whose maintaining it now
[06:54] <stdin> venik: linux philosophy: make an app that does one thing, but does it well
[06:54] <vzduch> it's still being packaged, but not even bugfixes
[06:54] <stdin> s/app/tool
[06:54] <logixoul> Yorokobi: sure, but I'm afraid I might be unable to get back to my Kubuntu and reverse the operation then
[06:54] <pag> logixoul, it'll say that error has occured, and you can't get past that point.
[06:54] <stdin> logixoul: you can always reinstall grub
[06:55] <runlevelten> I don't really IRC in kopete, but you can do almost anything you want with kopete through scripting
[06:55] <venik> OK-- irc, AIM-clone, Yahoo Messenger clone, Google Talk clone...
[06:55] <logixoul> pag: Ah, thanks
[06:55] <stdin> google talk = jabber
[06:55] <venik> yes, I am using Kopete with GT (Jabber)
[06:55] <lewix> stdin, ok
[06:55] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: You could either pull it out manually then using kxmledit, or you could use sed/awk
[06:56] <eagles0513875> ever room i need to help me try fix my issue is dead
[06:56] <runlevelten> sed is much easier for newbies :)
[06:56] <logixoul> stdin: but can I install it to 2 separate places (with different configs), if I have only one Kubuntu installation?
[06:56] <BluesKaj> I run konversation due to it's simple and familiar interface ..Kopete is ok for IM but i don't bother using it on IRC
[06:56] <stdin> lewix: try it now, 1st use the airmon-ng command then the others
[06:56] <lewix> what was the command again? to check the version
[06:56] <lewix> stdin, ok
[06:57] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: and contrary to what some people think, konversation is perfectly scriptable :)
[06:57] <cox377> anyone of there is anyway to archive in evolution mail?
[06:57] <venik> I am using Konversation for irc, to chat with you guys now
[06:57] <stdin> logixoul: why would you want/need to?
[06:57] <runlevelten> You could easily make a konversation bot using a language of your choice.
[06:57] <venik> and Kopete to emulate the other chatting programs
[06:58] <zoohouse> Hello everyone
[06:58] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, I got a script to autload an IRC Server list, but i couldn't get it to work
[06:58] <lewix> stdin, sudo airmon-ng start ath1 or wifi0?
[06:58] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, ,.. in konverstion
[06:58] <venik> file transfer, if it worked on Kopete, would be a great help for me
[06:58] <stdin> lewix: wifi0, but I think you'll need to remake the drivers first, to make it work
[06:58] <zoohouse> I have a bin file in my home dir, if I want to be able to run that app in console, do I need to place a link to a ~/bin dir?? Iv done this and it's not working...
[06:59] <zoohouse> I mean I placed a link to the file in my ~/bin dir
[06:59] <stdin> lewix: so do "cd /usr/src/madwifi-0.9.3.1/ ; make clean ; make && make install"
[06:59] <lewix> stdin, I think its working :) airodump
[06:59] <lewix> stdin, now let's try aireplay
[07:00] <StoneNewt> you'tr gonna fund it any which way you look at it
[07:00] <StoneNewt> meh!
[07:00] <lewix> ohh I have to remake ? stdin
[07:00] <stdin> lewix: to make aireplay work properly
[07:00] <stdin> lewix: but try without first
[07:01] <logixoul> stdin: Because I need the following setup: The first GRUB unconditionally chainloads a NT bootloader, which in turn gives me a choice between Windows and the "second GRUB". This second GRUB, then, boots unconditionally into Kubuntu. (the reason I can't just go without the first GRUB is: otherwise I would need to install the NT bootloader to the MBR while retaining its menu, and I don't know how to do that)
[07:01] <Yorokobi> zoohouse, 'chmod +x binfile' then './binfile' to execute it
[07:01] <logixoul> stdin: slightly headache inducing, I know =)
[07:02] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: if you find and open your konversationrc, you'll find it's fairly self explanatory how to add them, and the serverlist from kopete is in/opt/kde3/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml
[07:02] <lewix> stdin, ok done
[07:03] <zoohouse> Yorokobi: no no I mean that I want to be able to run the app regardless of my pwd. Just like you can type a command and it runs. Know what I mean? I want the app to run like a command
[07:03] <lewix> stdin, too late Im remaking
[07:03] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, konversationrc?
[07:03] <lewix> stdin, it's done . now im trying aireplay-ng
[07:03] <stdin> lewix: ok
[07:04] <runlevelten> sorry, it's not /opt/kde3 by default, it's /usr/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml
[07:04] <Yorokobi> zoohouse, move it to /usr/local/bin then check the output of 'echo $PATH' to see if /usr/local/bin is there, if not, 'PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin; export PATH'
[07:04] <lewix> stdin, please specify a bssid (-b)
[07:04] <zoohouse> thanks
[07:05] <stdin> logixoul: you just edit the C:\boot.ini file (IIRC)
[07:05] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: find ~ -name "konversationrc"
[07:05] <stdin> lewix: the bssid is the thing that looks like a MAC address, in the form of XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
[07:06] <runlevelten> (it's in .kde/share/config btw)
[07:06] <logixoul> stdin: Marvelous, this seems to solve the whole problem! Thanks.
[07:06] <stdin> logixoul: :)
[07:06] <joe4288> hey i have a little problem
[07:06] <joe4288> its happened twice now
[07:07] <stdin> lewix: you get it from either kismet or "iwlist ath0 scan"
[07:07] <joe4288> randomly when i turn the comp on after the kde log in screen before kde boots up ill lose the signal to the monitor
[07:07] <DexterF> does it come back?
[07:07] <OuZo> how can i make my normal user start kdm, instead of root? thanks
[07:07] <joe4288> yea if i restart the comp
[07:07] <lewix> stdin, I did sudo aireplay-ng -3 -a 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo ath1
[07:07] <DexterF> joe4288: viceo card?
[07:08] <joe4288> DexterF: its a onboard geforce 6100-m9
[07:08] <joe4288> DexterF: its a biostart mother board
[07:08] <stdin> lewix: change -a to -b
[07:08] <joe4288> "star"
[07:08] <DexterF> hmm. standard driver or did you install the binary nv?
[07:09] <joe4288> DexterF: im useing nvidia-gxl-new i think
[07:09] <joe4288> DexterF: it might just be nvidia-new cant remeber
[07:09] <DexterF> hmm. fesity?
[07:09] <DexterF> gnn. feisty?
[07:09] <joe4288> DexterF: i do know nvidia-gxl doesnt work yes its feisty
[07:09] <DexterF> I'd give hte binary driver a shot
[07:10] <DexterF> !nv
[07:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <joe4288> DexterF: i was using nv before
[07:10] <hacker> hi
[07:10] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: you can print that file to screen without xml tags by stripping them with sed
[07:11] <joe4288> DexterF: but i want to use beryl so i updated the driver
[07:11] <DexterF> joe4288: oh, wait.
[07:11] <eagles0513875> avoid the xmms channel they r total jerks
[07:11] <DexterF> i just read up on thsi. looks like glx-new actually *is* the binary driver
[07:11] <hacker> i know
[07:11] <lewix> stdin, now it says please specify a source MAC(-h)
[07:11] <runlevelten> ie: sed -e 's/<[^>] *>//g' /usr/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml
[07:12] <joe4288> DexterF: well im going to see if maybe i used the wrong 1
[07:12] <DexterF> I have an ATi myself, so maybe someone else's comment here would help rather. on beryl: well, if you can live without it for the moment, do so. it's unstable and buggy anyway
[07:12] <stdin> lewix: put -h then the mac address of ath1 in there, use ifconfig ath1 to find it
[07:12] <joe4288> DexterF: theres 3 diffrenet nvidia drivers i think
[07:12] <hacker> yeah
[07:12] <joe4288> DexterF: and i know for a fact gxl doesnt work fore me
[07:12] <orbisvicis> i cant seem to get nfs working with guarddog ... all i need to do is permit Network File System - Sun Microsystems
[07:12] <nasty> how is every one
[07:12] <DexterF> nope, sorry, then im outta ideas here.
[07:13] <orbisvicis> ... i think
[07:13] <joe4288> DexterF: well i dont know if im going to use it or not i just wanted to see it and try it out a little
[07:13] <DexterF> orbisvicis: what's guarddog?
[07:13] <stdin> DexterF: iptables GUI, like firestarter
[07:13] <orbisvicis> DexterF, kde iptables configurator
[07:13] <DexterF> joe4288: its fun and has one or two nifty features but it's not like it makes kde a whole new experience.
[07:14] <joe4288> DexterF: yea i know
[07:14] <DexterF> orbisvicis: hmm... guess you need to use NFS on IP then and assign the daemons and clients fixed IPs
[07:14] <joe4288> DexterF: but doesnt change the fact that i have a weird little problem now
[07:14] <DexterF> err, bullsh!t, IP, NFS on TCP of course
[07:14] <joe4288> DexterF: well thanks g2g
[07:14] <DexterF> yw
[07:15] <admin2> f
[07:15] <DexterF> there's howtos on that, google
[07:15] <admin2> hey theres a bug in nickserv
[07:15] <lewix> stdin, sudo aireplay-ng -3 -b 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo -h ath1 06-11-F5-8D-E0-F1-D0-E3-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
[07:15] <admin2> i just logged in with an already used nick!
[07:16] <lewix> stdin, invalid source mac adress
[07:16] <stdin> lewix: ahh, try 06:11:F5:8D:E0:F1:D0:E3
[07:16] <orbisvicis> description of guarddogs NFS service: portmapper:111 (tcp/udp) - mountd any port - nfsd port 2049 tcp/udp
[07:16] <stdin> adminh: ??
[07:16] <orbisvicis> is that right ?
[07:16] <lewix> stdin, the same
[07:17] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, /opt/kde3/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml ...can't be found
[07:17] <admin2> change nick to admin2
[07:17] <eagles0513875> this is pissing me off
[07:17] <Moderator> what
[07:17] <eagles0513875> !language |eagles051387
[07:17] <ubotu> eagles051387: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:17] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, I do have konversationrc open , however
[07:18] <orbisvicis> that is right ... so i dont know why it isnt working through guarddog
[07:18] <eagles0513875> Moderator: lol i cant find anyone who is familiar with xine coding to help me debug a bug
[07:18] <stdin> lewix: ahh, try F5:8D:E0:F1:D0:E3
[07:18] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: it's not in opt/kde3 by default, I remembered that after saying it:)
[07:18] <Moderator> oops
[07:18] <runlevelten> [18:03] <runlevelten> sorry, it's not /opt/kde3 by default, it's /usr/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml
[07:19] <eagles0513875> anyone in here able to read code lol
[07:19] <hacker> i am
[07:19] <lewix> stdin, the same
[07:19] <hacker> i only read c
[07:19] <hacker> and python
[07:19] <runlevelten> you can read it with the tags stripped out using that sed snippet up there ^ :)
[07:19] <eagles0513875> whats xine programmed in
[07:19] <hacker> no idea
[07:20] <hacker> i use vlc
[07:20] <hacker> it is codec-free.
[07:20] <stdin> lewix: you need to move "ath1" to the end of the command
[07:20] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:20] <eagles0513875> anyone else able to read code that uses xine
[07:20] <eagles0513875> and knows how to debug
[07:20] <hacker> it will play anything.
[07:21] <stdin> eagles0513875: looks like it's written in C
[07:21] <hacker> figures
[07:21] <orbisvicis> where does guarddog/iptables keep logs ?
[07:21] <runlevelten> Does it play DRM-infected windows media?
[07:21] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, sed snippet? ...your speaking a lingo that's not familiar to me :)
[07:21] <lewix> stdin, it seems to work now but I dont see packets on airodump
[07:21] <lewix> anymore
[07:21] <hacker> i think it might.
[07:21] <stdin> orbisvicis: probably syslog or kernlog
[07:21] <hacker> i use a mac
[07:21] <runlevelten> drop this in a console: sed -e 's/<[^>] *>//g' /usr/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml
[07:21] <hacker> so i dont have any.
[07:21] <runlevelten> that will print the list without all the xml tags :)
[07:21] <orbisvicis> stdin, where are those ?
[07:22] <elite101> Hey i am in my Display Setting's Network tab and My video card (nvidia vanta) wont let me configure it. the button is shaded out? not clickable?
[07:22] <hacker> it doesnt play itunes though.
[07:22] <lewix> stdin, so I have "read 0 packets......sent 0 packets...:"
[07:22] <stdin> lewix: you have to wait
[07:22] <elite101> hardware tab*
[07:22] <stdin> orbisvicis: in /var/log
[07:22] <jhutchins_lt> elite101: Do you have an "admin mode" button or checkbox?
[07:22] <eagles0513875> hacker:  u might be able to help me but let me see if i can get any info out of anyone in the xine room first
[07:22] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, gotcha ...copy n paste
[07:22] <elite101> 1sec i might lol
[07:22] <hacker> ok
[07:22] <lewix> stdin, you sure? because it's like airodump is not working
[07:22] <hacker> i will be moderator
[07:22] <orbisvicis> ty
[07:22] <elite101> stupid me lol
[07:23] <Moderator> ha
[07:23] <elite101> jhutchins_It: thanks
[07:23] <eagles0513875> Moderator: lol im conused lol
[07:23] <neusonce> whats an intresting name " hacker"
[07:23] <hacker> yeah
[07:23] <stdin> lewix: it has to get some packets before it can send them
[07:23] <hacker> why are you confused
[07:23] <lewix> stdin, let me try to do it step by step again because I did aireplay before airodump
[07:23] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:24] <eagles0513875> hacker: u a moderator of the channel or something lol
[07:24] <hacker> i am, though. everyoner talking about different stuff
[07:24] <neusonce> !register
[07:24] <hacker> no
[07:24] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:24] <eagles0513875> hacker may i pm ya
[07:24] <stdin> lewix: you can try running that command in another shell, but with "-1 0" instead of "-3" too
[07:24] <hacker> i just am amazed by the lack of security.
[07:24] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:24] <thrilla> problem
[07:24] <elite101> it says my video card is a RIVA TNT? but its a Nvidia vanta?
[07:25] <lewix> stdin, becuase I dont see any connection on airodump either
[07:25] <lewix> stdin, ok I try it
[07:25] <eagles0513875> hacker: did u get my pm
[07:25] <thrilla> alt install cd is crashing on me
[07:25] <neusonce> hey guys whats the linux  terminal command for the dos format c:
[07:25] <hacker> no im unregistered
[07:25] <elite101> lol reads it as 256kb ram? i have mb ram?
[07:25] <eagles0513875> hacker: u should register
[07:25] <stdin> neusonce: huh? that doesn't make sense
[07:25] <hacker> not right now sorry
[07:25] <eagles0513875> ok
[07:26] <phiona> neu: cd .. ?
[07:26] <thrilla> can anyone WHO KNOWS what they are doing help me
[07:26] <hacker> what about email. i have i great spam filter
[07:26] <neusonce> ok the msdos  way of wiping clean your harddrive befoer you reinstall is format c:
[07:26] <hacker> nate.techboy128@gmail.com
[07:26] <eagles0513875> !ask |thrilla
[07:26] <ubotu> thrilla: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:26] <dr_willis> thrilla,  check the checksum, for a start on the cd and the iso file.
[07:26] <dr_willis> i gotta go. byeee
[07:26] <eagles0513875> hacker: mine is eagles051387
[07:26] <stdin> neusonce: ahh, the installer will do that for you
[07:26] <thrilla> already did that
[07:26] <eagles0513875> hacker: @gmail.com
[07:26] <neusonce> no no no
[07:27] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[07:27] <neusonce>  of got some logical partitions i wanna get rid of
[07:27] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:27] <hacker> email me instead of pm
[07:27] <neusonce>  and i need to keep some stuff safe in the d :
[07:27] <stdin> neusonce: you can't do it from a mounted disk
[07:27] <eagles0513875> hacker: sent u chat invite
[07:27] <stdin> neusonce: and format isn't the same as removing partitions
[07:27] <lewix> stdin, failed: no such device
[07:27] <neusonce> well this computer wont let me boot into dos
[07:28] <jcku393> does anyone know how to figure out what chipsets you have in your hardware, i need better display drivers for my new monitor
[07:28] <neusonce> i need to do a clean format
[07:28] <thrilla> the installer is getting to 85% then crashing
[07:28] <hacker> what is that
[07:28] <stdin> lewix: make sure you put ath1 at the end
[07:28] <stdin> !format | neusonce
[07:28] <ubotu> neusonce: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:28] <lewix> stdin, yep
[07:28] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: clean format so you can re-install Windows?
[07:28] <neusonce> NO
[07:28] <stdin> lewix: post the command you used
[07:28] <neusonce> GOD HELL NO
[07:28] <neusonce>  I JUST WANNA FORMAT SO I KNOW ITS CLEAN
[07:28] <stdin> neusonce: man mkfs < read
[07:28] <jussi01> !caps
[07:28] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:29] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: What then?  And watch the language, children present.
[07:29] <neusonce>  iv got a 330hdd and its only saying iv got 300 aviable
[07:29] <thrilla> and someone told me to try pressing ctrl+alt+right arrow when it crashes
[07:29] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: What you need to do depends on what you plan to use the partition for.
[07:29] <thrilla> that does nothing
[07:30] <jhutchins_lt> thrilla: Did you verify your disk?
[07:30] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m3adbd282
[07:30] <neusonce>  i "need" to clean info from my hardisk
[07:30] <thrilla> yes
[07:30] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: What you need to do depends on what you plan to use the partition for.
[07:30] <jhutchins_lt> thrilla: Standard or Alt disk?
[07:30] <runlevelten> you want to wipe information? What, wipe securely?
[07:30] <thrilla> the package it crashes on is
[07:30] <thrilla> openoffice.org-java-common
[07:30] <thrilla> alt disk
[07:31] <neusonce> yes
[07:31] <jhutchins_lt> thrilla: It's possible that it's just taking a long time to install that very large packge.
[07:31] <hacker> eagles
[07:31] <neusonce> securely
[07:31] <runlevelten> You should use thermite-based data rearrangement to securely remove the data from it.
[07:31] <stdin> lewix: put -h before 06-11-F5-8D-E0-F1-D0-E3 and change it to "F5:8D:E0:F1:D0:E3"
[07:31] <thrilla> how long should i wait?
[07:31] <neusonce> is KDE  more stable ?
[07:31] <hacker> eagles
[07:32] <hacker> imback
[07:32] <runlevelten> Thermite formatting isn't cheap or safe though, heh
[07:32] <neusonce> and what are the fundemental difference's between kde and gnome
[07:32] <hacker> eagles
[07:32] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m1d5f3e40
[07:32] <neusonce> no
[07:32] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: There's a floppy-based distribution called Darik's Boot and Nuke - http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[07:32] <runlevelten> Gnome sucks. Kde, less so.
[07:32] <thrilla> the way the GUI looks
[07:32] <neusonce> i highly doubt
[07:32] <neusonce> i will be useing  thermite
[07:32] <thrilla> so go rent a wood chipper
[07:33] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: That will securely erase the partitions.
[07:33] <neusonce> grrrrrrrrrr
[07:33] <runlevelten> It's the only guaranteed method of secure data removal, heh#
[07:33] <neusonce> my computer so new it aint got a floppy
[07:33] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: There are ways to do it manually from Linux too.
[07:33] <neusonce> however i should still be able to load on a cd
[07:33] <runlevelten> thrilla: I used to do some forensic data retrieval, and we got (relatively speaking) a lot of data back from a disk that had been chopped into small pieces.
[07:34] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: It's also available for CD and DVD.  Have a look at that page and come back if you have questions.
[07:34] <neusonce> i just need to keep the d: partiton the rest of them are snaky logical partitions
[07:34] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: So what are you going to do with them?
[07:34] <stdin> lewix: try  sudo aireplay -1 0 -a 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo -h F5:8D:E0:F1:D0:E3 ath
[07:35] <thrilla> run: you cann't get data off a disk the size of wood chips
[07:35] <lewix> stdin, no such device
[07:35] <stdin> lewix: yeah, put ath1, insread of ath
[07:36] <chuso> Hi :)
[07:36] <chuso> First of all sorry for my English
[07:36] <neusonce> well the only reason i wanna keep the d: partiton "if its still there" is to make sure just in case i ever need windows again iv got a back up
[07:36] <lewix> stdin, error
[07:36] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: drive letters are only meaningful within windows.
[07:36] <neusonce> shhhh linux baby
[07:37] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: Anyway, like I said, read the web page I sent you.
[07:37] <stdin> !es | chuso
[07:37] <ubotu> chuso: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:37] <stdin> lewix: what error?
[07:37] <chuso> i'm running kubuntu feisty, and i'm trying to mount an external ntfs partition. I have just installed ntfs-3g, ntfs-config, and added my user to fuse group, but i'm not able to mount the partiton. Thanks in advance :)
[07:37] <lewix> stdin, the same one as in the pastebin
[07:38] <neusonce>  2 hours 18 mins till i get kubuntu
[07:38] <stdin> lewix: you used "sudo aireplay-ng -1 0 -a 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo -h F5:8D:E0:F1:D0:E3 ath1" ?
[07:38] <chuso> stdin: I know those chanels :/ thanks anyway
[07:38] <runlevelten> thrilla, how big is wood chip size?
[07:38] <neusonce> so whats the difference between  the desktops
[07:38] <lewix> stdin,  yes sir...exactly
[07:38] <stdin> chuso: btw, permissions don't apply until you logout and back in, so try that
[07:38] <lewix> stdin, why don't we just do it from scratch step by step to see what's wrong
[07:38] <runlevelten> oh, thrilla went :)
[07:38] <jhutchins_lt> chuso: Have you rebooted since you installed the 3g stuff?
[07:39] <stdin> lewix: ok
[07:39] <chuso> ok stdin, thanks a lot :) i'm going to check it
[07:39] <H4xC0r> i would you like run perl script in my apache server
[07:39] <eagles0513875> hacker: pm me again lol
[07:39] <hacker> hi
[07:39] <lewix> stdin, do I have to type in airmon--ng start wifi0?
[07:39] <stdin> lewix: no
[07:39] <lewix> stdin, ok..so now airodump
[07:40] <elite_hacker> lmao
[07:40] <runlevelten> hacker128: why are you continually changing your nick?
[07:40] <runlevelten> You're making me dizzy
[07:40] <hacker128> im not
[07:40] <lewix> stdin, in iwconfig I can see ath0 and ath1
[07:40] <elite101> lol yes thirty times a minute
[07:40] <elite101> moderator,hacker,hacker128
[07:40] <hacker128> elitehacker is apparantly a cracker.
[07:40] <elite101> lol
[07:40] <elite101> its elite101
[07:41] <elite101> if u think u can hack? why not joing #hacker ?
[07:41] <elite101> or #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:41] <stdin> lewix: ok, see if kismet works
[07:41] <neusonce> you need to be invited dont you ?
[07:42] <elite101> how do i change the apperance of KDE so its got the Black and grey look? and appearnce packs to download?
[07:42] <lewix> stdin, it works but no connection on it just like airodump
[07:42] <hacker128> i hack not crack
[07:42] <hacker128> mr elite
[07:42] <runlevelten> h
[07:42] <neusonce> and the difference is  mr hacker ???
[07:42] <elite101> exact? join #hacker
[07:42] <stdin> lewix: kismet and airodump interfere with eachother, only use one at a time
[07:42] <hacker128_> no
[07:42] <jhutchins_lt> Guys, we do have some active support conversations going on here, could you move the chatter to offtopic please?
[07:42] <lewix> stdin, that's what I did
[07:43] <elite101> thats what i said
[07:43] <elite101> #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:43] <lewix> stdin, do you think that my lan connection interfere
[07:43] <jhutchins_lt> elite101: They're called themes for kde.
[07:43] <elite101> how do i apply them?
[07:43] <stdin> lewix: not if it's wired
[07:43] <stdin> !changethemes | elite101
[07:43] <ubotu> elite101: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[07:43] <lewix> stdin,  it is
[07:43] <jhutchins_lt> elite101: http://www.kde-look.org/
[07:44] <elite101> thanks
[07:44] <lewix> stdin, iwlist ath0 scan: I can see 4 AP
[07:44] <chuso> stdin: it didn't work :(
[07:44] <stdin> lewix: airodump onld dumps packets it sees, you need to initiate the packets with aireplay now
[07:44] <elite101> i got some 3D looking desktop's that look really good and changed the colour of my taskbar but everthing else is stil blue and white lol
[07:45] <stdin> chuso: what does "ls -l /dev/fuse" show?
[07:45] <chuso> crw-rw---- 1 root fuse 10, 229 2007-07-24 19:17 /dev/fuse
[07:46] <stdin> chuso: and "groups|grep fuse" shows output?
[07:46] <elite101> and how can i make firefox my default browser? uninstall konqueror?
[07:46] <chuso> yes it do
[07:46] <stdin> elite101: no, in system settings -> default applications
[07:46] <chuso> my user is in fuse group
[07:46] <elite101> okay
[07:46] <chuso> but I still cannot mount ntfs partitions
[07:46] <stdin> chuso: what happens when you try to mount the partition?
[07:47] <chuso> stdin: you mean trying to mount with sudo?
[07:48] <stdin> chuso: no, when you try to mount it, what happens ?
[07:48] <chuso> if so, its mounted without write premissions (for the root user). I think its not using a suitable driver
[07:48] <stdin> chuso: how are you trying to mount it?
[07:49] <chuso> stdin: with mount command
[07:49] <chuso> mount /dev/sde1 /path
[07:49] <lewix> stdin, I tried to run aireplay and it says device or ressource busy...
[07:49] <stdin> chuso: you need to put "-t ntfs-3g" on the end
[07:49] <krzysiek> czesc
[07:49] <kamui> is there a linux manga reader or image viewer that can read manga in rar format?
[07:49] <stdin> !pl
[07:49] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:49] <krzysiek> hi
[07:50] <stdin> kamui: rar is an archive
[07:50] <stdin> !rar
[07:50] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:50] <BluesKaj> !cz
[07:50] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[07:50] <chuso> stdin: ok :) it tells me the device was not correctly unmounted, so its locked. I'm going to unmount under windows
[07:50] <stdin> lewix: hmm, what command did you use?
[07:50] <chuso> thank you very very much stdin!
[07:50] <stdin> :)
[07:51] <kamui> no kidding, I you arne't supposed to extract the contents, they're sorted inside the rar additionally programs like CDisplay for windows do it fine
[07:51] <chuso> and thank you for trying to understand my English!
[07:51] <kamui> just asking if there was a linux image viewer that can view inside of rars
[07:51] <lewix> stdin, aireplay-ng -3 -a xxxxxxxxx -e xxx -h xx
[07:51] <neusonce> the kde desktop im looking at seems much more  dare i say windows like. than  anything i seen outside windows
[07:52] <runlevelten> kamui: All they generally do is extract the data to a temporary location, provide it to you, and delete the temp data when done.
[07:52] <runlevelten> You can do this yourself if you wish...
[07:52] <stdin> lewix: what's all the x's?
[07:52] <kamui> runlevelten, CDisplay decompresses on the fly, its fine, it apears there's nothing available that anyone knows about
[07:53] <kamui> Im using this on HPC with linux installed, leaves me with less than stellar options for decompression
[07:53] <neusonce> dose anybody know of a program that can mask youre ip though a proxy or any other method
[07:53] <stdin> neusonce: for what purpose?
[07:54] <neusonce> privacy
[07:54] <jhutchins_lt> kamui: just unrar it.
[07:54] <neusonce> the reason why
[07:54] <stdin> on what? IRC, WWW ... ?
[07:54] <jhutchins_lt> kamui: unrar will assemble it from a chopped-up rar too.
[07:54] <jhutchins_lt> kamui: It's so easy in linux that nobody's ever bothered to make it easier.
[07:55] <neusonce> is  my last os VISTA  got a zob.trojan and basicalyy 3 years of  blender work, scripts and financial records were lost  in half a sec
[07:55] <kamui> jhutchins_lt, unrarring 400 mangas into already limited space is not an option, ill find another solution thanks anyway
[07:55] <neusonce>  i cant risk that again so im reeducating myself with linux,
[07:55] <neusonce> and i would have got a mac but they scream of hardware issues
[07:56] <stdin> neusonce: masking IP won't stop torjans on windows
[07:56] <stdin> neusonce: but look in to the "tor" package for "Maximum" security
[07:56] <lewix> stdin, ok. here is what I did: http://pastebin.com/m64a4b997
[07:56] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: I would say the first thing you should do is learn how to do proper backups.
[07:56] <stdin> neusonce: tor puts proxys to shame
[07:56] <runlevelten> kamui: you can unrar to stdout
[07:56] <runlevelten> you don't need to save it to a disk.
[07:57] <kamui> what and pipe the output into the eye of gnome?  lol
[07:57] <runlevelten> use unrar p if you want to pipe it to another app, not the disk.
[07:57] <neusonce> like i said im a linux baby i feel so infantile reeducating myself  with you guys around
[07:57] <venik> How can I change the size of the icons in the main (right) panel at the bottom of the screen?
[07:57] <runlevelten> spose so.
[07:57] <jhutchins_lt> kamui: Yeah, pipe the unrar output to mplayer (or your player of choice).
[07:57] <neusonce> can you explain what this tors basicly dose
[07:57] <runlevelten> if eog is your favoured image viewer
[07:58] <kamui> well, Ill give it a shot right now on the desktop and see what happens
[07:58] <jhutchins_lt> kamui: That's another reason things aren't bundled in linux, they can be used more flexibly.
[07:58] <kamui> if this works the you get kudos
[07:58] <stdin> lewix: ok, some routers aren't venerable to to the attack, you can always try another attack or accsspoint
[07:58] <runlevelten> and it reads from stdin, which I don't actually know because I don't use it :)
[07:58] <lewix> stdin, airodump is not working though
[07:58] <lewix> stdin, you know..it works but I dont see nay connection
[07:59] <venik> The icons are WAY too big, but the place to change them in System Settings is grayed out
[07:59] <stdin> neusonce: it 1st will mask your IP, but more than that it's impossible to see what your IP is or where your date is going to/coming from as it's wrapped in encryption
[07:59] <stdin> neusonce: look it up on wikipedia
[08:00] <neusonce> i just did, stdin but thank you very much,
[08:00] <kamui> gok didn't work at all
[08:00] <kamui> nvm
[08:00] <kamui> Ill just buy a bigger compact flash
[08:00] <stdin> neusonce: that tor is probably THE most secure you can be
[08:01] <runlevelten> kamui: did you try piping it to mplayer?
[08:01] <kamui> yep
[08:01] <kamui> mplayer didn't know how to handle the incoming stream
[08:01] <runlevelten> and you seem like you'd know to try the individual images, not a complete extract
[08:01] <kamui> yea, I did
[08:02] <kamui> rar p blab.rar file.image | gqview
[08:02] <kamui> then I tried mplayer
[08:02] <kamui> neither worked
[08:02] <lewix> stdin, the other command with -3: http://pastebin.com/m7df06f3f
[08:03] <kamui> at least if I could get single images, I could write a perl script to automate it
[08:03] <stdin> lewix: ok, now it's waiting for ARPs to resend, leave it
[08:03] <neusonce> so totaly theoritically and in jest say if i have this "tor" on my system   if i  "hacked" in to some goverment facillity i would in effect be  protected? " this is not a serious question but id like a serious anwser "
[08:03] <kamui> regardless, It looks like this is less usefull than just investing in an 8gig CF card
[08:03] <lewix> stdin, ok
[08:05] <stdin> neusonce: pretty much, as your IP wouldn't be in any logs. the "government facility" would only see the outward address of the tor "router" you connected from (which is random and changes)
[08:06] <stdin> neusonce: tho, as a warning. some sites block knows tor routers all together
[08:06] <stdin> neusonce: like irc.freenode.net, you'd need to give the freenode staff  your gpg key to use tor with freenode
[08:07] <neusonce> omg
[08:07] <neusonce>  when i was useing my terminal is said could not install no gpg key !!
[08:08] <ryjin> hello all
[08:08] <eagles0513875> hey
[08:08] <elite101> hello
[08:08] <ardchoille> Why would someone need tor if they aren't planing any malisious activity?
[08:08] <acpopai> hello
[08:08] <ryjin> How do I install skype-1.4.0.74.deb?
[08:08] <acpopai> some one speak rench?
[08:08] <ardchoille> !skype
[08:08] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:08] <stdin> neusonce: the package is "gnupg"
[08:08] <elite101> commet cava?
[08:09] <elite101> lol
[08:09] <acpopai> merci
[08:09] <acpopai> ca va
[08:09] <elite101> cava bein
[08:09] <elite101> jem apple elite101
[08:10] <stdin> ryjin: right click it, there is a kubuntu menu then, choose install package
[08:10] <joe4288> hi im having some troube with a few programs
[08:10] <elite101> all i know from french class
[08:10] <elite101> lol
[08:10] <ubuntu_> boa tarde
[08:10] <joe4288> when i try to load them they just kinda flash by
[08:10] <stdin> !br
[08:10] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:10] <elite101> but i know this
[08:10] <joe4288> like when i try qemu
[08:10] <elite101> von frai evashe'
[08:10] <elite101> hahah :P
[08:10] <joe4288> if i try loading it with qemu launcher it will just flash by
[08:10] <winol> Hey there .
[08:10] <ryjin> ok
[08:10] <runlevelten> kamui: ramdisk?
[08:11] <joe4288> like it loads then closes imediatly
[08:11] <stdin> joe4288: qemu is a command line app
[08:11] <joe4288> stdin: yea i know
[08:11] <winol> I got a problem with my Epson Stylus Photo RX520 and i cant Scan anything . can someone help me plz ? :(
[08:11] <joe4288> stdin: if i load it from a terminal i have no problem
[08:11] <joe4288> stdin: but if i use qemu launcher it just flashes
[08:11] <joe4288> stdin: i never had that problem with debian
[08:12] <stdin> joe4288: what qemu launcher?
[08:12] <joe4288> stdin: theres a program qemu launcher
[08:12] <neusonce> say i was a very very motivated hacker,   could i anychance at all trace an ip  thats been pass thougth a tor  server?
[08:12] <lewix> stdin, im trying to lower my transmit rate to see: iwconfig ath1 rate 1M
[08:12] <joe4288> stdin: it lets you pick everything graphicly
[08:12] <eagles0513875> this is really upsetting me now
[08:12] <stdin> joe4288: which one?
[08:12] <lewix> stdin, there's an error "operation not permitter". should I use wifi0?
[08:12] <joe4288> stdin: like the driver the proccors thats its emulating
[08:13] <stdin> lewix: no, use sudo
[08:13] <BluesKaj> is a " *.ro file " a compressed file similar to zip or rar ?
[08:13] <winol> Hey guys ! i've got a problem with my Espon STYLUS photo RX520 . I cant scan anything .. can someone Help me plz ? ive got a mail to send tomorow and its very important :(
[08:13] <joe4288> stdin: qemu launcher is just a grachpical front end
[08:13] <stdin> joe4288: yes, there are a few of them, what package ?
[08:13] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: now lame pkg in gutsy x64 is broken
[08:13] <jhutchins> winol: Do you have the sane packages installed?  Was this previously working?
[08:13] <joe4288> stdin: whats do you mean feisty?
[08:13] <jhutchins> !info sane
[08:13] <ubotu> sane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (feisty), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB
[08:13] <runlevelten> winol: what do you get when you crank up xsane?
[08:14] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, bummer
[08:14] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i cant transcode this one mp3 to flac
[08:14] <stdin> joe4288: no, what is the GUI foe qemu you are using, there's more than one
[08:14] <winol> runlevelten : Sorry guys , im a newbie with Ubuntu . i didnt test Xsane or whatever ...
[08:14] <lewix> stdin, association succesful :)
[08:14] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Gutsy is SUPPOSED to be broken.  That's why it's available for TESTING!
[08:14] <joe4288> stdin: its called qemu launcher
[08:14] <stdin> lewix: it should start sending ARP requests soon
[08:15] <winol> Jhutchins: i dont know how to install them . i have a .tar.GZ file ! but i have them
[08:15] <runlevelten> that's cool - try it now
[08:15] <BluesKaj> why do it eagles0513875 ?, it won't sound any better and the file will just be larger
[08:15] <eagles0513875> jhutchins: i know but this happened after i transcoded about 300 songs or so it could be the song ripped wrong
[08:15] <stdin> joe4288: where did you get it from?
[08:15] <runlevelten> I use a similar MFD to the 520, and I only use xsane with it :)
[08:15] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i actually notice a difference
[08:15] <joe4288> stdin: i got it from the ubuntu packages
[08:15] <joe4288> stdin: with kpackage
[08:15] <bentob0x> I have my K menu on the left hand side of the screen and everytime I download something onto the desktop, I have to right-click on the desktop>icons>line up vertically to realign and see the icons
[08:15] <stdin> joe4288: ok, what package name?
[08:15] <rustalot> how would I go about getting KDE 4? Can I run it as a seperate desktop session?
[08:15] <lewix> stdin, it is sending...I wait
[08:15] <joe4288> stdin: on second and ill tell you for sure
[08:16] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: As the topic of #ubuntu+1 says, " Please *don't* run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems
[08:16] <jhutchins> winol: sudo aptitude install sane
[08:16] <stdin> lewix: airdoump should be doing something now
[08:16] <lewix> stdin, it is :)
[08:16] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, i fail to understand how it could ..Itdoesn't fill in the missing bits that were stripped when it was encoded into MP3
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[08:17] <lewix> stdin, what's the next step
[08:17] <joe4288> stdin: its under the package name qemu-lanucher under otherosfs
[08:17] <stdin> lewix: when you have a about 500,000 packets (more is better), you can start aircrack-ng
[08:17] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: for some reaosn i notice a difference
[08:17] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: You can't get back data lost to a lossy compression program like mp3.  You will only loose additonal data by transcoding to another lossy compression, even if the other compression is better.
[08:17] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok
[08:17] <jermain> hi everyone
[08:17] <runlevelten> It may be psychosomatic eagles0513875 :)
[08:18] <lewix> stdin, ok thanks
[08:18] <eagles0513875> lol
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[08:18] <winol> E: Impossible de verrouiller /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Ressource temporairement non disponible)
[08:18] <winol> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it
[08:18] <eagles0513875> !pastebin
[08:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:18] <Cocytus> Whats with the "big icons" frenzy nowadays? Oxygen apparently wants icon view to default to 128x128?
[08:18] <winol> ops sorry guys !
[08:18] <elite101> lol wow i found this SDRAM stick it says imprinted on the corner 4MBx64? its a 256!!
[08:18] <jermain> !LAMP
[08:18] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:18] <eagles0513875> lol nice
[08:18] <vzduch> !aptfix | winol
[08:18] <ubotu> winol: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:18] <runlevelten> and even by transcoding to a lossless codec :)
[08:18] <jhutchins> winol: Make sure you don't have any other package tools running, make sure you began with "sudo", if all else fails:
[08:18] <eagles0513875> i somehow find more help in here than i do in the gutsy channel
[08:18] <jhutchins> Do what ubotu said.
[08:18] <joe4288> stdin: but i also have other programs that act a little weird
[08:19] <stdin> joe4288: try the package qtemu it's newer and would work better with newer versions of qemu
[08:19] <joe4288> stdin: ok
[08:19] <eagles0513875> j/w what other programs r there for transcoding
[08:19] <elite101> i only have 192mb now with 256 i will have (taking out my 64)  i will have 384mb/sdram brb going to try it
[08:19] <winol> jhutchins: ok its working now .
[08:19] <winol> jhutchins: what do i have to do now ?
[08:19] <joe4288> stdin: but other programs will try loading (bouncing icon) then just dissapear
[08:19] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: There are a bunch.
[08:19] <joe4288> stdin: do you have any idea of the cause?
[08:19] <jermain> wtf ubuntu has a lamp PACKAGE? If only i had known sooner :(
[08:19] <BluesKaj> soundKonverter, works well
[08:19] <jhutchins> winol: Read the docs for sane and set it up.
[08:20] <stdin> joe4288: all apps, or just some?
[08:20] <winol> jhutchins: ok !
[08:20] <joe4288> stdin: just some
[08:20] <stdin> joe4288: which ones?
[08:20] <lewix> stdin,  seems like its gonna take about 10min. im gonna watch some tv. ill get back to you in 10 min
[08:20] <jhutchins> winol: Usually you just need to run it and it will set itself up.
[08:20] <stdin> lewix: yeah, it takes ages
[08:20] <eagles0513875> jhutchins: like what others im using sound konverter and im having a problem wiht it with this one song
[08:20] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, soundKonverter
[08:20] <runlevelten> yeah, and the konquerer service menus that offer conversion from everything to everything else are cool :)
[08:20] <lewix> stdin, thanks though
[08:20] <winol> jhutchins: im running Xsane atm . but it told me that my device is my logitech webcam :(
[08:20] <joe4288> stdin: one off the top of my head is avida evolution simulator
[08:20] <jhutchins> winol: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[08:20] <joe4288> stdin: but there are others that i cant remeber right now
[08:20] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: already using it but its not working with this one song
[08:20] <jhutchins> winol: Grrr, sorry.
[08:21] <jhutchins> !xsane | winol
[08:21] <ubotu> winol: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[08:21] <stdin> jhutchins: is this on dapper or edgy or feisty?
[08:21] <jhutchins> The first URL.
[08:21] <BluesKaj> song data could be corrupt
[08:21] <jhutchins> Konversation doesn't select properly for cut-and-paste
[08:21] <joe4288> stdin: i cant find the package qtemu
[08:22] <jermain> oh dang i misread, there is no lamp package >< Does anyone have time to help me with a small problem?
[08:22] <jhutchins> stdin: Sorry, what did you mean to ask?
[08:22] <jermain> I installed php5 but cant open php files in the browser
[08:22] <vzduch> jhutchins: I told the Konversation guys that already 2 years ago.. they said they would look into it, but apparently they haven't
[08:22] <joe4288> stdin: ow and also my wine doesnt work
[08:22] <stdin> jhutchins: tab completion error :p
[08:22] <jhutchins> vzduch: That or it's not trivial to fix.
[08:22] <runlevelten> what's the boggle with selection in konversation?
[08:22] <stdin> joe4288:  this on dapper or edgy or feisty?
[08:22] <joe4288> stdin: feisty
[08:22] <BluesKaj> winol, i'm very disappointed in kooka and sane ...still behind the the windows drivers in terms of colour , light and resolution capabilities
[08:23] <vzduch> runlevelten: if you are selecting something (or have selected) and the line scrolls up, the selection is gone
[08:23] <jhutchins> runlevelten: If you have say two URL's in a post, and you try to select one for cut and paste, you'll usually get the other.
[08:23] <winol> ubotu: nothing is working i think .
[08:23] <stdin> joe4288: hmm, some apps (for some reason) just don't start  the 1st time, nothing you can really do
[08:23] <BluesKaj> I'm keeping my windows partition due the fact that linux scanning sucks ..
[08:23] <joe4288> stdin: hmmm
[08:23] <jhutchins> vzduch: You can get around that by scrolling up a bit to freeze the scrollbuffer.
[08:24] <runlevelten> Ah, I see vzduch
[08:24] <winol> BluesKaj:  yeah i noticed that .... i think im going to install both System on my computer ! :(
[08:24] <stdin> jhutchins: I think that's a Qt bug actually (well, Qt3)
[08:24] <vzduch> jhutchins: that won't work in my experience, at least it didn't in earlier version (0.10.x)
[08:24] <joe4288> stdin: but how come the programs work under the terminal
[08:24] <runlevelten> jhutchins: how are you selecting it
[08:24] <joe4288> stdin: like i can run wine thorugh the terminal and qemu
[08:24] <jhutchins> runlevelten: Right click on URL, choose "Copy URL to Clipboard".
[08:25] <vzduch> I'm lazy to check now, running irssi here :)
[08:25] <runlevelten> Ah yes.
[08:25] <jhutchins> Hm.
[08:25] <BluesKaj> winol , make sure you install windows first , so you don't have boot problems afterwards
[08:25] <stdin> joe4288: kde doesn't execute the command directly, it runs it "inside" another app
[08:25] <jhutchins> I see that the URL is displayed in the status bar, and I got the one I wanted that time...
[08:25] <joe4288> stdin: i know so what could be the problem?
[08:25] <jhutchins> This is why I hadn't filed a bug on it yet.
[08:26] <stdin> joe4288: don't know, probably just a but, it the app doesn't start in about 10 seconds try again
[08:26] <joe4288> stdin: done that no good
[08:26] <stdin> jhutchins: it's a known bug in konvi
[08:27] <joe4288> stdin: i also have an issue with beryl
[08:27] <stdin> joe4288: if it's a command line app, then it normally needs you to run it in a terminal
[08:27] <kaic> hi. my internet in kubuntu seems slower than in windows. what could it be?
[08:27] <joe4288> stdin: i can get it to run but i can see any of its effects
[08:28] <stdin> joe4288: what graphics card?
[08:28] <MstbZalle> so now let it scroll up, then I'm gonna check
[08:28] <joe4288> stdin: nvidia geforce 6100
[08:28] <joe4288> stdin: and yes i have the nvidia-gxl-new driver
[08:28] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: now with my problem its saying xine cant initialize any audio drivers
[08:28] <stdin> joe4288: do you get the beryl icon in the system tray?
[08:29] <joe4288> stdin: yes
[08:29] <underdog5004> I'm trying to install awn on my lappy...I've already got it installed on my desktop, I used the download.tuxfamily.org repo...but I can't find the gpg key for the repos...is there a way to find it?
[08:29] <joe4288> stdin: and i can select beryl as windows manger
[08:29] <joe4288> stdin: but then all my boarders dissapear
[08:29] <eagles0513875> time to update my bug report
[08:29] <jhutchins> underdog5004: They may not have one.
[08:29] <BluesKaj> in soundKonverter ?
[08:30] <M_A_K> What program can I use to convert an AVI to a DVD?
[08:30] <underdog5004> jhutchins, no, I think they do, because when I did sudo apt-get update, it spat out an error:  W: GPG error: http://download.tuxfamily.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 576856718434D43A
[08:30] <stdin> underdog5004: "gpg --search-keys SearchTerm" or if you know the key number "gpg --recv-keys KEY"
[08:30] <winol> BluesKaj: yeah yeah :) can u tell me how to install PROPERLY Kubuntu plz ? (number of PArtition ? size ? etc etc ? tks )
[08:30] <BluesKaj> Tovid , or devede, M_A_K
[08:30] <genii> M_A_K:
[08:31] <underdog5004> stdin, thanks
[08:31] <genii> bah
[08:31] <genii> M_A_K:  Whatever avi to dvd you use, be prepared to wait a long time
[08:31] <kaic> hi. my internet in kubuntu seems slower than in windows. what could it be?
[08:31] <stdin> joe4288: only way to debug is to exit beryl and run it from konsole, and talk to the people in #ubuntu-effects
[08:31] <H4xC0r> hi ;)
[08:32] <joe4288> stdin: well thanks
[08:32] <joe4288> stdin: im tired ill try and figure everything out later
[08:32] <underdog5004> stdin, didn't work...couldn't key on keyserver
[08:32] <M_A_K> Is there a better way?  I took video on my camera and used windows (i know... :(  ) to make a movie I want to put on dvd.
[08:32] <underdog5004> I searched for awn, avast, and avast window navigator
[08:32] <stdin> underdog5004: do you have the keyserver set?
[08:33] <M_A_K> What is the linux equivalent for windows movie maker ?
[08:33] <BluesKaj> winlol , i'm using 20G for windows on hda1 , and the rest is for kubuntu and linux swap on hda2 and hda3
[08:33] <underdog5004> stdin, I'm not sure...what does that mean?
[08:33] <vzduch> jhutchins: you're right, scrolling up a bit will hold the selection now in Konvi
[08:33] <stdin> underdog5004: try: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 576856718434D43A
[08:33] <underdog5004> gpg: requesting key 8434D43A from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[08:33] <underdog5004> gpg: key 8434D43A: public key "Aren Olson <reacocard@gmail.com>" imported
[08:33] <underdog5004> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[08:33] <underdog5004> gpg:               imported: 1
[08:33] <underdog5004> sorry for the spam
[08:34] <viraj> my usb speakers are not workig
[08:34] <persen> Hi, looking for a ok bittorent client that supports RSS. anyone? Azuerues is out of the question as it uses to much system resources
[08:34] <stdin> underdog5004: now you have to give the key to apt: gpg --export -a 8434D43A | sudo apt-key add -
[08:35] <underdog5004> stdin, ok
[08:35] <viraj> could somebody tell me why my speakers are not working?
[08:35] <eagles0513875> !patience |viraj
[08:35] <viraj> logitech v10
[08:35] <ubotu> viraj: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:35] <viraj> sorry!!!
[08:35] <eagles0513875> its ok is this a desktop or laptop and was it a clean install of kubuntu
[08:36] <underdog5004> stdin, it totally worked!
[08:36] <underdog5004> thanks a lot
[08:36] <stdin> underdog5004: no problem :)
[08:36] <genii> underdog5004: I see stdin is taking care of you :)
[08:37] <genii> !helpersnack | stdin
[08:37] <ubotu> stdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[08:37] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i have isolated the problem
[08:37] <BluesKaj> aha !
[08:37] <eagles0513875> viraj: did u do a clean install
[08:37] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i compiled libxine from source and now its saying xine cannot initilize any audio devices
[08:37] <viraj> yes my kubuntu installed perfectly
[08:38] <eagles0513875> !helpersnack |eagles051387
[08:38] <ubotu> eagles051387: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[08:38] <chaotic1> heyhow come caffeine will play xvid but mplayer wont
[08:38] <eagles0513875> viraj: open up the mixer and see if anything is muted and unmute it
[08:39] <chaotic1> is their propietary codecs for mplayer
[08:39] <StoneNewt> chaotic1: define 'doesn't'?
[08:39] <eagles0513875> chaotic1: use vlc
[08:39] <StoneNewt> lavc should decode xvid
[08:39] <MaTiAz> hmm
[08:40] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, i think i'd trust the repos for libxine on gutsy , not the xine source
[08:40] <viraj> no ... unmuting "pc speaker" does not help
[08:40] <MaTiAz> Do you have problems fetching packages from the repositories?
[08:40] <stdin> besides, xvid isn't proprietary
[08:40] <eagles0513875> ok
[08:40] <MaTiAz> I can't install Firefox, it says 404 :|
[08:40] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: if i do can u explain the cuttin in and out
[08:41] <stdin> MaTiAz: try "sudo apt-get update" first
[08:41] <viraj> however, i can change my laptop speaker volume from the volume control on my usb speakers.... interesting :)
[08:41] <venik> The icons in the "Quick Launch" panel are WAY too big, but the place to change them in System Settings is grayed out
[08:41] <BluesKaj> no eagles0513875 , sorry :(
[08:41] <genii> stdin: I heard also earlier today Aussie repos are down
[08:41] <MaTiAz> stdin: Haha, works now, thanks :D
[08:41] <viraj> venik, did u try administrator mode?
[08:41] <venik> no-- let me try
[08:42] <stdin> genii: it was just an out-of-date cache :)
[08:42] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: its ok u rule
[08:42] <venik> viraj-- not available for Appearance
[08:42] <araizen> hi all
[08:42] <araizen> i just installed kubuntu a couple of days ago
[08:42] <eagles0513875> !helpersnack |blueskaj
[08:42] <ubotu> blueskaj: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[08:43] <genii> stdin: Ah, OK
[08:43] <araizen> my pppoe internet connection stops working after it's been connected for a while
[08:43] <venik> Administrator mode, I mean
[08:43] <araizen> anywhere from a few minutes to a half hour
[08:43] <viraj> ok.......
[08:43] <autoscum> hey guys, i got a major problem, my resolution doesnt wanna change above 640x480
[08:43] <elite101> how big is DSL linux the livecd? anyone know?
[08:43] <elite101> i wanna burn the iso
[08:43] <araizen> suddenly no new connections work, though older connections that are still active continue to work
[08:43] <autoscum> and yet it was working fine a few mins ago
[08:43] <autoscum> :/
[08:43] <araizen> does anyone have any idea what the problem might be?
[08:44] <viraj> venik, was ur install smooth?
[08:44] <elite101> autoscum: restart your computer!!! worked for me i had the same prob
[08:44] <chaotic1> what the hell is this
[08:44] <stdin> !xconfig | autoscum
[08:44] <ubotu> autoscum: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[08:44] <venik> yes it was
[08:44] <genii> araizen: Offhand it looks possible to be mismatched MTU between computer and what the pppoe modem/ISP uses
[08:44] <elite101> autoscum: just restart your computer it works fine after it reloads
[08:45] <stdin> autoscum: but restart X first to check, logout and choose "restart X server" from KDMs menu
[08:45] <viraj> i would suggest restarting and logging in as admin.. or root.. it worked for me once
[08:45] <chaotic1> error opening/initializing the selected voideo_out (-vo) device
[08:45] <araizen> genii: can you point me to where to look to fix it?
[08:45] <chaotic1> mplayer keeps telling me that
[08:45] <elite101> crtl-alt-space? or backspace
[08:45] <viraj> eagles?
[08:45] <stdin> chaotic1: what -vo device did you use?
[08:45] <stdin> elite101: nither
[08:45] <stdin> elite101:  logout and choose "restart X server" from KDMs menu
[08:46] <chaotic1> what do u mean vo device
[08:46] <stdin> chaotic1: what command did you use?
[08:46] <genii> araizen: If there is some web interface to your modem/router perhaps tinker with the MTU settings there.
[08:46] <rrbiz> skype's unreliable in linux :(
[08:46] <chaotic1> nothing just opened it from kde menu
[08:47] <stdin> chaotic1: you using the mplayer GUI?
[08:47] <viraj> my usb speakers r not working but i can control my laptop volume from them .... ???
[08:47] <chaotic1> Yeah
[08:47] <araizen> genii: okay, i'll look into it, thanks
[08:47] <chaotic1> Yeah the gui
[08:47] <chaotic1> never prompted me for a vo device
[08:48] <autoscum> ubotu: can you repeat that, please?
[08:48] <stdin> chaotic1: right click, go to preferences, go to the video tab, and change it to x11 or xv is that dosen't work
[08:49] <autoscum> problem repeat: my resolution wont go above 640x480, yet it was working fine a few minutes ago
[08:49] <genii> araizen: There is a way to change the mtu of your ethernet adapter also, eg: sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1492   For a permanent change, /etc/network/interfaces needs to be altered
[08:50] <genii> 1492 is a standard type mtu for pppoe
[08:50] <stdin> autoscum:restart X first to check if it's intermittant, logout and choose "restart X server" from KDMs menu
[08:50] <autoscum> it happened when i restarted X
[08:50] <stdin> !xconfig | autoscum: try this
[08:50] <ubotu> autoscum: try this: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[08:50] <araizen> genii: thanks
[08:50] <genii> araizen: Some info here:    http://www.debianadmin.com/change-mtu-maximum-transmission-unit-of-network-interface.html
[08:51] <stdin> autoscum: use the 2nd command (the one with -phigh in it)
[08:51] <autoscum> stdin: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[08:51] <root_> how do i stop dhcp from overwriting my /etc/resolve.conf?
[08:51] <autoscum> what now? ;/
[08:51] <stdin> autoscum: try "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"
[08:52] <Karti> !dvd
[08:52] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:52] <autoscum> it worked now
[08:52] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: does gutsy come with kde 3.5.7
[08:52] <autoscum> my video card is ATI Radeon 9200 SE i should choose the ati driver, right, stdin ?
[08:53] <stdin> autoscum: yeah
[08:53] <kaic> hi. my internet in kubuntu seems slower than in windows. what could it be?
[08:53] <autoscum> well there are marked resolutions there
[08:54] <autoscum> that reach to 1024x768
[08:54] <jhutchins> kaic: Did you disable ipv6?
[08:54] <viraj> has anybody had probs with logitech v10 speakers?
[08:55] <autoscum> viraj: if they're a 5.1 surround system, i couldn't get them to work
[08:55] <jhutchins> viraj: are they USB or somethng/
[08:55] <lewix> stdin,
[08:55] <stdin> yep
[08:56] <lewix> stdin, we're looking at the data column or number of packets
[08:56] <autoscum> stdin: like i said, there are marked resolutions in the next screen that reach up to 1024x768 after i click ok nothing changes :/
[08:56] <lewix> stdin, read 15300 packets sent 614000
[08:57] <stdin> autoscum: try restarting KDM, open konsole (save everything if you haven't), and type in sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[08:57] <stdin> lewix: look in the airodump window
[08:58] <lewix> stdin, 787 data
[08:58] <viraj> they are usb's
[08:58] <stdin> lewix: you need a LOT more
[08:58] <lewix> 852500 packets
[08:58] <lewix> geez...I thought it was the packets lol
[08:58] <stdin> lewix: no, has to be data
[08:59] <stdin> lewix: leave it over night :p
[08:59] <lewix> stdin, I thought it was faster though. how long does it take you
[09:00] <autoscum> wow, thanks, stdin
[09:00] <eagles0513875> does anyone have a 64bit testing system
[09:00] <autoscum> that worked
[09:00] <fotoflo> hey all, where do i choose default applications for filetypes in kubuntu?
[09:00] <lewix> stdin, should I use that to speed things up : sudo aireplay -0 ath0 -a BSSID ath0
[09:01] <autoscum> all hail stdin =)
[09:01] <autoscum> thanks a lot
[09:01] <stdin> lewix: depends on the net, and you can try
[09:01] <viraj> usb speakers
[09:01] <stdin> autoscum: no problem :)
[09:02] <autoscum> one more problem, tho. i cant run mozilla firefox, theres no shortcut... whats the command for it?
[09:04] <lewix> stdin, so in my case it is: sudo aireplay -0 aireplay ath1 -a BSSID ath1, right?
[09:04] <stdin> yeah
[09:04] <viraj> fotoflo, does the option come in ur metabar in konqueror?
[09:05] <fotoflo> viraj: would that affect what happens when i open a file in firefox?
[09:05] <autoscum> stdin: do you know the command to run mozilla firefox? the shortcut is missing... :?
[09:05] <stdin> autoscum: "firefox"
[09:05] <lewix> stdin, an error ...guess i have to wait lol
[09:05] <stdin> heh :p
[09:06] <stdin> the pains of a cracker hey
[09:06] <autoscum> 'Could not run the specified command.'
[09:06] <autoscum> :/
[09:06] <_m0ns00n> Hey
[09:06] <autoscum> Adept says that mozilla is installed
[09:06] <autoscum> weird o0
[09:06] <_m0ns00n> After installing a .deb, how can I poll where the files installed to?
[09:06] <_m0ns00n> Google is not my friend =)
[09:06] <lewix> oh its working
[09:06] <_m0ns00n> It didn't show any results on that
[09:06] <viraj> fotoflo, do you use firefox to browse stuff on your home?
[09:06] <lewix> sending deAuth to broadcast
[09:06] <stdin> autoscum: the package is called firefox, not mozilla
[09:06] <autoscum> i see
[09:07] <stdin> _m0ns00n: dpkg -L PackageName
[09:07] <_m0ns00n> ah thanks
[09:07] <lewix> stdin, do I leave it like this:  it keeps sending deAuth to broadcast
[09:08] <stdin> lewix: doing that is an attempt to get the router to send some ARP requests, that's all it does
[09:08] <stdin> lewix: if it already is then there's nothing you can really do, but wait
[09:08] <fotoflo> viraj: no, im trying to open a video from a web page
[09:08] <fotoflo> want it to open in VLC
[09:09] <lewix> stdin, so I can stop the process of the latest command
[09:09] <stdin> lewix: yeah
[09:14] <vbhide> you need the vlc plugin fotoflo....
[09:14] <fotoflo> vlc plugin? for firefox?
[09:15] <vbhide> sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd mozilla-plugin-vlc libdvdcss2 is all this in?
[09:15] <vbhide> or try entering this:
[09:16] <vbhide> sudo apt-get update
[09:16] <vbhide> sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd mozilla-plugin-vlc libdvdcss2
[09:16] <vbhide> hope it helps
[09:16] <MaTiAz> Hey, how do I mount my Windows partition in Kubuntu Live CD?
[09:16] <MaTiAz> I need to back up some important stuff
[09:17] <NightBird> MaTiAz: is it an ntfs partition?
[09:17] <MaTiAz> NightBird: Yeah
[09:17] <NightBird> !ntfs | MaTiAz
[09:17] <ubotu> MaTiAz: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:18] <MaTiAz> thanks
[09:18] <autoscum> does anyone know how to change my keyboard layouts with alt+shift?
[09:18] <NightBird> (it had a '?' in it, which windows doesn't like, but... )
[09:19] <autoscum> i did edit my xorg.conf file and restarted X, but it doesn't work :/
[09:21] <AcE13> sudo mkdir '/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc' <--- gives no errors
[09:21] <vbhide> usb speakers dont work.... logitech....
[09:21] <takumi_> Hello
[09:21] <AcE13> but when installing a font pack.. I get error /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory
[09:21] <sveweck> autoscum: there is only one easy way and it requires that you don't use Alt in other key combos anymore. is that ok?
[09:22] <autoscum> it's okay :)
[09:22] <autoscum> logixoul: throw it at me x)
[09:22] <stdin> AcE13: don't worry about that, it's an old dir for fonts, the error is harmless
[09:23] <vzduch> dayum.. can Kaffeine be configured so that it stays on top even if off-focus?
[09:23] <AcE13> stdin: apparently I need that dir to get artwiz font working?
[09:23] <vzduch> VLC has an option, but it doesn't work
[09:23] <AcE13> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=453790&highlight=artwiz
[09:23] <lewix> stdin, well i have to get off internet. Ill talk to you later. thanks for everything. I'll let you knoe
[09:23] <logixoul> ok so: systemsettings -> regional -> layout -> xkb options -> enable them and make Alt a thirdlevel chooser
[09:23] <logixoul> autoscum: ^
[09:24] <vzduch> nvm, got it :)
[09:24] <stdin> lewix: no problem, see you later
[09:24] <logixoul> autoscum: then it becomes possible to assign alt+shift as a shortcut (as well as ctrl+alt and win+alt, etc)
[09:24] <stdin> AcE13: install the packages, they make all the dirs they need
[09:24] <logixoul> autoscum: you may need to press it as shift+alt though
[09:25] <autoscum> hold on, what do you mean a 'thirdlevel chooser'?
[09:25] <autoscum> oh, got it
[09:25] <logixoul> ;)
[09:25] <logixoul> I don't know its meaning either
[09:25] <logixoul> except that it removes the "modifier" flag from keys
[09:26] <vbhide> ok bye!
[09:26] <vbhide> goodnight
[09:27] <autoscum> logixoul: there was a better way to do it, i just cant seem to find it :/
[09:27] <logixoul> autoscum: it might have involved xbindkeys or imwheel
[09:27] <logixoul> or xmodmap
[09:28] <autoscum> if you can find me the thing with xorg.conf
[09:28] <autoscum> cuz i did it from memory, lol
[09:30] <rrbiz> yo someone good with smb or nfs, trying to share some folders are neither are doing it
[09:30] <autoscum> stdin, you're a smart dude, can you tell me how to switch between kbd layouts with alt+shift?
[09:30] <autoscum> =)
[09:32] <autoscum> guess not
[09:32] <stdin> autoscum: never needed to, looked in system settings -> Regional & Language ?
[09:32] <autoscum> yeah, i did
[09:32] <autoscum> but there's no alt+shift shortcut key
[09:33] <autoscum> i did something before when i was using kubuntu. i edited xorg.conf to make it change and the scroll lock led to light when it's changed
[09:33] <autoscum> :P
[09:33] <stdin> autoscum: not even in the Xkb tab in Keyboard Layout ?
[09:33] <autoscum> err
[09:34] <autoscum> i cant seem to find any
[09:37] <autoscum> !layouts
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about layouts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <autoscum> !keyboard
[09:37] <tzanger> has anyone here experienced LONNNNNNG delays/lockups with 7.04?
[09:37] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[09:37] <stdin> autoscum: http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5905/image1gq6.png ?
[09:37] <tzanger> I thought it was perhpas something starving out the memory allocation but it doesn't appear to be the case
[09:37] <genii> I found something about keyboard layouts and how to switch between them here https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[09:37] <joakim_> I live in sweden and cant play a region 1 (usa) DVD in my laptop, is there a way around this?
[09:37] <tzanger> this is on a thinkpad t60 (ATI chipset) but I'm using the standard VESA driver
[09:38] <autoscum> well i dont think that has anything to do with it
[09:38] <autoscum> it doesnt work even tho i checked it :P
[09:42] <tzanger> it seems to definitely be linked to HDD access
[09:43] <autoscum> stdin: here's my input device section of xorg.conf
[09:43] <autoscum> http://pastebin.com/m433ea148
[09:43] <stdin> working?
[09:44] <tzanger> aha
[09:44] <tzanger> kontact and kopete are taking up ALL my memory
[09:44] <tzanger> 1G RAM and 0.5G swap
[09:44] <tzanger> wtf
[09:46] <autoscum> tzanger: i second that opinion.. wtf?!
[09:48] <autoscum> stdin: nope
[09:48] <autoscum> stdin: sorry for the late reply, i didnt notice you wrote
[09:49] <stdin> hmm, not sure then
[09:49] <tzanger> I restart them and they behave
[09:49] <tzanger> so far
[09:49] <tzanger> kopete however has grabbed 30% of my memory
[09:49] <tzanger> 51%
[09:49] <tzanger> 60%
[09:49] <tzanger> 76%
[09:49] <tzanger> what the hell
[09:49] <slacker403> how much ram does a defualt kubuntu with KDE use ?
[09:49] <autoscum> !mp3
[09:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <slacker403> nothing else running
[09:50] <slacker403> no spcial effects
[09:50] <tzanger> I'm running 213M
[09:50] <tzanger> as shown in top
[09:50] <tzanger> that's with a behaved kontact running
[09:50] <tzanger> (5% memory)
[09:50] <autoscum> !easykubuntu
[09:51] <autoscum> er
[09:51] <autoscum> !easykubuntu
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easykubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <vzduch> ?
[09:51] <autoscum> !codecs
[09:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:52] <stdin> autoscum: don't use easyubuntu or automatix, can do damage
[09:52] <stdin> !easyubuntu
[09:52] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[09:53] <stdin> !automatix
[09:53] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:53] <autoscum> !worksforme
[09:53] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:53] <autoscum> i see
[09:53] <autoscum> so, stdin, where can i get audiocodecs for amarok? when it says it doesnt have mp3 support it crashes
[09:54] <jussi01> !mp3
[09:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:54] <stdin> autoscum: are you on feisty ?
[09:54] <autoscum> yeah, 7.04
[09:54] <stdin> autoscum: should just download it for you then IIRC
[09:55] <stdin> autoscum: if not, make sure you have multiverse enabled and run "sudo apt-get install libxine-extrecodecs
[09:55] <autoscum> what's multiverse? o0
[09:55] <autoscum> !multiverse
[09:55] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:00] <autoscum> stdin: it worked :)) thanks again x)
[10:00] <stdin> :)
[10:00] <autoscum> stdin: now to get back to the @$%tty keyboard layout problem
[10:01] <autoscum> !keyboard
[10:01] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[10:01] <autoscum> !shortcuts
[10:01] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[10:09] <jhutchins> autoscum: I've got a problem with a different distro where it's not accepting any of the keyboard shortcuts I configured in KDE.  Haven't tracked it down yet, it could be a 3.5.7 bug, but it's more likely to be a distro-specific problem.
[10:09] <autoscum> jhutchins: i dont think so, im just not doing something right.. like always =)
[10:09] <jhutchins> I installed a new USB keyboard and my menu key doesn't work any more either.
[10:10] <jhutchins> ...in fact, why don't I work on this a bit now.
[10:12] <Kjellviz> hi, ive got ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop installed on it, i had my mediakeys working fine in gnome but they dont in KDE, any ideas ?   (im using a Microsoft wireless entertainment desktop keyboard)
[10:14] <autoscum> jhutchins: good luck :)
[10:15] <jussi01> !shortcuts | Kjellviz
[10:15] <ubotu> Kjellviz: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[10:16] <Kjellviz> jussi01: thanks
[10:17] <jussi01> :)
[10:20] <logixoul> Kjellviz: btw, if your multimedia keys aren't recognized by kde, there's something to try before resorting to keytouch: systemsettings->regional->layout->choose your model from the list
[10:20] <logixoul> Kjellviz: (and if it's not there, try ones that seem similar. then try them all, one by one)
[10:20] <autoscum> !lampp
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <autoscum> !xampp
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <Kjellviz> logixoul: ok, im trying to find mediakeys in the shortcut settings
[10:22] <slacker403> how much does kubuntu use ram wise as default with kde ?
[10:22] <logixoul> Kjellviz: no, you don't get it. Mediakeys aren't separate from the rest of your keys. They're just stuff you can assign to a command. E.g. you could bind Play/Pause to a mediakey or to Win+P - same principle.
[10:23] <logixoul> slacker403: dunno but I have successfully ran Kubuntu Breezy with OpenOffice.org on a 64MB RAM system.
[10:23] <slacker403> with KDE ?
[10:23] <logixoul> yes
[10:23] <logixoul> it was kinda slow, of course
[10:24] <logixoul> and I did have 1GB swap
[10:24] <vzduch> CPU[AMD Athlon clocked at 900.075 Mhz]   Kernel[Linux 2.6.20-16-lowlatency i686]   Up[-5:33-]   Mem[-145.0/757.5MB-]   HDD[-280GB(40%used)-]   Procs[-117-]   Client[Shell wrapper] 
[10:24] <vzduch> slacker403: this w/o cached stuff and while watching a DVD
[10:25] <Kjellviz> logixoul: no i DO get it, the thing is i cant find play/pause next stop etc in shortcut list
[10:25] <Kjellviz> logixoul: hence i cannot assign any mediakey to it
[10:26] <logixoul> Kjellviz: that's because "play" or "next" etc, are not universally defined things. you need to look for them in your mediaplayer, such as Amarok.
[10:26] <logixoul> hint: they're called global shortcuts
[10:27] <saizai> is there a good reason why ~/.xsession-errors is 6G? Or better, some way I can prevent that from happening again? I can't even start Amarok 'cause I'm now at 0 free space :(
[10:29] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: There's a media keyboard support package, but I haven't figured out how to use it yet.
[10:30] <logixoul> saizai: open the file in a text editor and look for repetitive lines. This should give you a hint about what's going on :)
[10:30] <Kjellviz> ok, ill look in my mediaplayer =)
[10:31] <saizai> logixoul: already deleted. (though it doesn't seem to have chaned df -h...?)
[10:31] <Kjellviz> brb
[10:32] <slacker403> vzduch, so how much emmory ws it using there 145 mb ?
[10:34] <vzduch> slacker403: yep, 145 MB for actual programs (KDE, Konsole, Krusader, Kaffeine, KMail and the tray apps).. there are probably some 500 MB more shown as used, but these are for cache
[10:35] <slacker403> im saying what is actually sed
[10:35] <jhutchins> Ah, that media keyboard package is lineak.
[10:35] <slacker403> do you htink its possible for me to use kernel + kde in under 150 mb ?
[10:37] <vzduch> slacker403: try it :)
[10:37] <slacker403> whats yoru gut feeling :P
[10:38] <vzduch> my guess is: it'll be f***ing slow, but it'll work
[10:39] <slacker403> well the min requirements is 80 MB of ram
[10:39] <slacker403> for KDE
[10:40] <Bytepoet> any way to make one machines sound output to another machine?
[10:40] <Bytepoet> both running /04
[10:40] <Bytepoet> 7.04*
[10:43] <serenity> hi
[10:43] <stoned> hi
[10:43] <stoned> that movie serenity sucked btw
[10:43] <saizai> logixoul: any idea why rm'ing the huge error file hasn't changed my disk free space? it still claims it's at 0 free, though the file is gone. :(
[10:43] <stoned> worse than that firefly crap
[10:44] <serenity> i installed compiz fusion, but my window deco is away.
[10:44] <stoned> serenity: away?
[10:44] <serenity> yeah
[10:44] <MaTiAz> Argh
[10:44] <stoned> you mean you don't have it?
[10:44] <neusonce> ok iv just switched from ubuntu to kubuntu, IM IN LOVE ...
[10:44] <stoned> kde > *
[10:45] <serenity> 100% right stoned
[10:45] <Kjellviz> anyone know if theres a program avail to adjust the LEDs on a Dell XPS M1710?
[10:45] <Bytepoet> neusonce, i just did the same.... love it.
[10:45] <MaTiAz> The update system in Linux is like 51312^1235 times better than Windows Update
[10:45] <stoned> kde > food/sex/music/fun/bowling
[10:45] <stoned> :D
[10:45] <MaTiAz> stoned: lol true
[10:45] <neusonce> MAN
[10:45] <stoned> serenity: I've never used it before, however I have experience with beryl
[10:45] <Bytepoet> neusonce:  did your vid card install go okay?
[10:46] <neusonce> i lost 3 years of work last week ' thank you vista" so my hatred for windows is beyond anything known
[10:46] <stoned> serenity: see if compiz fusion has channel on freenode.  or ask in #beryl or #compiz to find out where to ask
[10:46] <stoned> neusonce: use it.
[10:46] <stoned> but positively
[10:46] <neusonce> yes
[10:47] <neusonce> i have a new machine 4k worth
[10:47] <stoned> what is it?
[10:47] <stoned> 4k? goddamn
[10:47] <neusonce>  every thing is state of the art
[10:47] <stoned> what did you get?
[10:47] <runlevelten> Is it a hovercraft?
[10:47] <Bytepoet> mine was a little bumpy, i had trouble with the 8800GTS
[10:47] <tzanger> interesting
[10:47] <tzanger> kontact crashed with SIGABRT
[10:47] <Bytepoet> and it would only recognize 4gb of my ram :-/
[10:47] <tzanger> that's unusual
[10:47] <neusonce>  in ubuntu when i installed the video driver that was recomended for me by unbuntu  it ruined my screen it was tiny
[10:48] <stoned> try 64bit
[10:48] <stoned> amd64 or ia64
[10:48] <neusonce> the " shitty" in built driver work perfectly
[10:48] <neusonce> i just switched from ubuntu 64 bit
[10:48] <stoned> not you
[10:48] <stoned> the guy with the ram problem
[10:48] <neusonce>  i spent 4 days trying to install java and flash
[10:48] <neusonce> im almost cryed
[10:48] <Bytepoet> oh, i got it figured out, runnin at all 8gb
[10:48] <stoned> neusonce: well
[10:48] <stoned> neusonce: its a piece of cake
[10:48] <rustalot> tzanger: what's SIGABRT mean?
[10:49] <tzanger> rustalot: it's just another signal that can be used for process communication
[10:49] <stoned> neusonce: you create a file with dd, you format the file to a file system, with mkfs.ext3 or something, then you mount that file as a block device using loopback.  Then you can install a 32bit chroot ubuntu inside that file.  In there you can have all your 32bit apps and it will work transparently with 64bit os
[10:50] <stoned> its really quite trivial
[10:50] <stoned> just need to read a bit
[10:50] <stoned> or, use nspluginwrapper
[10:50] <neusonce> *STARES*
[10:50] <stoned> whichever you want, they both work great for me
[10:50] <neusonce> im a linux baby
[10:50] <neusonce>  dont talk to me like that
[10:50] <stoned> lol
[10:50] <neusonce> my brain will explode
[10:51] <MaTiAz> stoned: That seems pretty interestng
[10:52] <neusonce>  no, i need blender and smilier apps like that for work, and iv already noticed that linux handels thouse tasks far far far far x 7734239 times better than vista
[10:52] <BluesKaj> stoned , x86 32bit runs fine on AMD 64 ...no hassles at all .. no need for loopbacks etc
[10:52] <stoned> BluesKaj: there is a need
[10:52] <neusonce>  and, becuse im in a computer realted industry i guess being competent  with linux would be a major advantage
[10:52] <stoned> BluesKaj: read the entire conv.
[10:53] <BluesKaj> well, I haven't encountered any probs
[10:53] <stoned> BluesKaj: using loopback becuase I don't have any spare partitions to use for a 32bit chroot
[10:53] <logixoul> saizai: hmm, I did once have the same problem. don't remember how I solved it, or what had caused it. You might wanna try rebooting. What springs to mind now is, "something" had been trying to write to disk some data all along, and at the first possibility (after the rm) it just happens.
[10:53] <Bytepoet> heh...harder to fire me now that i know the basics of rm -rf
[10:53] <stoned> BluesKaj: so you can use a file as a blockdevice/hdd
[10:53] <Bytepoet> theyre skerred!
[10:54] <stoned> Bytepoet: without opening the manpage, what is -r and what is -f
[10:54] <stoned> ?
[10:54] <BluesKaj> too much stuff ! stoned ;0
[10:54] <Bytepoet> r is recursive
[10:54] <stoned> BluesKaj: what do you mean
[10:54] <Bytepoet> f makes it not care
[10:55] <stoned> ok so good
[10:55] <stoned> keep up the good work
[10:55] <stoned> Bytepoet: now learn some shell scripting
[10:55] <stoned> :)
[10:56] <Bytepoet> if they fire me, the three most important skills i'll need is rm, cron jobs, and.... remoting in to do the dirty work
[10:56] <Bytepoet> oh, and ontop of that.... learning how to re-write my resume'
[10:57] <stoned> i used to work at cox communications
[10:57] <Bytepoet> did i mention how much i love the ubuntu community?
[10:57] <stoned> I got fired for hacking the internal database
[10:57] <Bytepoet> oh yeah?  i, at comcast....
[10:57] <stoned> looking up cuztomer info
[10:57] <stoned> hehe
[10:57] <MaTiAz> stoned: haha, was it worth it?
[10:57] <stoned> bugging people i know on irc
[10:57] <Bytepoet> word....nothing really interesting in my cust info
[10:57] <stoned> scaring people on line who have cox cuz i can look up their addy/billing info by ip
[10:57] <Bytepoet> LOL yeah
[10:58] <stoned> it was hella fun
[10:58] <stoned> one time
[10:58] <Bytepoet> wow, you got fired for that?
[10:58] <stoned> I left a window open
[10:58] <Bytepoet> i best watch myself
[10:58] <stoned> and went to the bathroom
[10:58] <stoned> manager saw it
[10:58] <stoned> i was fired on the spot
[10:58] <stoned> oops
[10:58] <Bytepoet> heh, none of my managers would know what theyre looking at....
[10:58] <stoned> but its ok
[10:59] <stoned> they only paid me 10$/hr
[10:59] <stoned> then I worked at dell for a good while
[10:59] <stoned> got promoted twice
[10:59] <stoned> i still have friendly dinners with some of my clients
[10:59] <haffi> Hi. Can anyone help me with getting my USB camera to work with Kubuntu 6.10?
[11:00] <stoned> haffi: which camera is it?
[11:00] <Bytepoet> <3 stoned
[11:00] <haffi> Canon SD400
[11:02] <haffi> It seems to recognize it, digiKam even auto detected the type. It can't connect to it though
[11:03] <stoned> seems like gPhoto should work it
[11:05] <haffi> I'll try it
[11:05] <stoned> http://www.gphoto.org/doc/manual/
[11:05] <haffi> Konqueror can't connect to it either though
[11:05] <neusonce> hey where is the synaptic manager in kubuntu ?
[11:06] <stoned> install synaptic
[11:06] <neusonce> .....
[11:06] <stoned> or use kynaptic or kpackage instead
[11:06] <BluesKaj> have to ask the obvious question, haffi , did you check 'storage media' ?
[11:06] <stoned> you can do alt + f2 and in the run box, type synaptic
[11:06] <haffi> BluesKaj: Nope
[11:06] <stoned> that is, if synaptic is installed
[11:06] <haffi> BluesKaj: Where would I find that?
[11:06] <stoned> I would recommend kpackage
[11:06] <vzduch> is Kynaptic still active?  I thought it was more or less replaced by Adept
[11:06] <neusonce> hey, im iv only been useing linux for a week, and kubuntu for a few mins
[11:07] <BluesKaj> system menu/storage media
[11:07] <neusonce> give a guy a break
[11:07] <stoned> it will be in kmenu > system
[11:07] <haffi> Not there, I'm afraid
[11:08] <stoned> then it isn't installed
[11:08] <stoned> synaptic isn't installed with kubuntu
[11:08] <stoned> apt-get install synaptic
[11:08] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:08] <elite101> whats ndsiwapper?
[11:08] <elite101> can someone do the info bot
[11:08] <elite101> for m friend
[11:08] <stoned> !ndiswrapper
[11:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:08] <elite101> !ndiswapper
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndiswapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[11:09] <elite101> thankz
[11:09] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[11:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:09] <confrey> I've installed kubuntu, how can I browse windows network? is there in kde a friendly app like gnome does?
[11:09] <jhutchins> confrey: Yes.
[11:10] <jhutchins> smb:// in konqueror will work.
[11:10] <confrey> jhutchins: how?
[11:10] <stoned> smb4k
[11:10] <stoned> !info smb4k
[11:10] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-1build1 (feisty), package size 1762 kB, installed size 3756 kB
[11:10] <jhutchins> confrey: I don't have GUI access to a kubuntu system right now, but it seems like it's integrated into the menu these days.
[11:10] <jussi01> confrey: go to koonqueror and putthis in the address bar: remote:/
[11:10] <confrey> jhutchins: no, smb:// in konqueror is a malformed URL
[11:11] <s0undt3ch> how can I find out if I have a package matching a string installed?
[11:11] <jhutchins> Hm, smb:// gives me /, but smb:/ works here.
[11:11] <s0undt3ch> for example *vmware*
[11:11] <stoned> s0undt3ch: which package
[11:12] <s0undt3ch> stoned: anything matching vmware
[11:12] <BluesKaj> elite101, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/
[11:12] <stoned> s0undt3ch: apt-cache policy vmware
[11:12] <stoned> maybe
[11:12] <confrey> jhutchins: ok, it works, very thanks
[11:12] <futonrevolutiona> need some help with frostwire
[11:12] <jhutchins> s0undt3ch: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[11:12] <nahemoth> I installed allegro, but can't run it
[11:12] <jhutchins> s0undt3ch: I don't recall, but it's in there somewhere.
[11:12] <nahemoth> you have any idea?
[11:12] <s0undt3ch> k, thanks ppl
[11:12] <jhutchins> s0undt3ch: dpkg -L I think, or -l
[11:13] <stoned> its not an apt-get howto question
[11:13] <stoned> dpkg -L lists files within a package
[11:14] <stoned> he want to see if th package he wants is installed or not
[11:14] <haffi> Does anyone know where Kubuntu (KDE) mounts USB cameras?
[11:14] <stoned> you can check this using aptitude search pkgname
[11:14] <stoned> in the results, the first 2 letters will tell you if it is installed or not
[11:14] <jhutchins> stoned: Perhaps it would be worth your while to have a look at that URL.  It covers his question as well.
[11:14] <stoned> read aptitude manpage to see what the codes mean
[11:14] <haffi> *** Error ***
[11:14] <haffi> An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'):
[11:14] <stoned> jhutchins: but the commands you gave were the wrong answer for his question
[11:15] <jhutchins> haffi: I'd guess they mount to /media, but mount woud tell you.
[11:15] <stoned> jhutchins: you can read the website too, it would help out.
[11:15] <confrey> ok, I can browse win net now, to use konqueror, is there a way to import firefox bookmarks?
[11:15] <futonrevolutiona> frostwire and limewire both freeze on splash, anyone else had this problem?
[11:15] <jhutchins> stoned: dpkg -l ?*foo*? -- find packages whose names contain ?foo?.
[11:16] <stoned> jhutchins: thas not what he asked
[11:17] <haffi> This is strange, gphoto2 also auto-detects the camera type but says that it "can't claim the USB device"
[11:19] <jhutchins> stoned: Perhaps you should submit a contribution to the wiki, I didn't see your solution there.
[11:19] <BluesKaj> haffi, my USB devices usually mount in Storage Media, like most other drives would
[11:19] <stoned> jhutchins: sure I could do that
[11:19] <haffi> BluesKaj: I can't see anything called storage media in my K menu
[11:20] <johey> Hi!
[11:20] <stoned> hello
[11:20] <haffi> BluesKaj: It's not in /media either
[11:20] <jhutchins> stoned: There's an example using it, but it isn't explained.
[11:21] <BluesKaj> look in the panel for computer icon , called system menu or you can do alt+f2 and type kcontrol , it will suely be there
[11:21] <persen_> Hi again
[11:21] <jhutchins> stoned: That is something I do all the time, but I use rpm -qa | grep <foo> (I should use rpm -qa '*<foo>*'}.
[11:21] <BluesKaj> er surely
[11:21] <johey> I have a HP laptop. When I first tried it, bluetooth worked out of the box. Now, severalt months later, it does not work anymore. I don't know what I have done. 'hcitool dev' just sais 'Devices:'
[11:22] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: kdesu kcontrol
[11:22] <persen_> In VLC media player i play a video from a windows computer over SMB, why doesnt VLC stream the file instead of creating a local tmp copy of the whole file first_
[11:22] <persen_> ?
[11:22] <johey> dmesg says 'Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized'
[11:22] <ubuntu> devfr
[11:22] <BluesKaj> he just wants see it jhutchins , nor need to edit
[11:22] <BluesKaj> no need
[11:22] <jhutchins> persen_: The remote host has no method for creating/indexing a stream.
[11:22] <johey> How can I trace this problem with my bluetooth?
[11:23] <stoned> I have the worst headache ever
[11:23] <jhutchins> !bluetooth | johey
[11:23] <ubotu> johey: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:23] <persen_> jhutchins, this works in a windows to windows setup.
[11:24] <johey> jhutchins: I have read that. It doesn't help me with my problem.
[11:24] <persen_> anyway, can i have VLC preview the file its copying?
[11:24] <jhutchins> persen_: Have you tried mplayer to see if it works any differently?  iirc mine appears to play without first making a local copy; my remote share is an NT box.
[11:24] <stoned> mplayer > *
[11:24] <persen_> will try mplayer then
[11:24] <persen_> !mplayer
[11:24] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[11:24] <jhutchins> johey: Sorry, the existence of that page is just about the extent of my bluetooth knowledge.
[11:24] <persen_> !codecs
[11:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:24] <stoned> what is bluetooth
[11:24] <johey> jhutchins: Ok.
[11:25] <stoned> i hate that friggin term, bluetooth
[11:25] <stoned> couldn't they call it something else
[11:25] <stoned> bluetooth the word is soooo annoying
[11:25] <jhutchins> stoned: Wireless local networking commonly used for headsets on wireless phones and for pda/pc links.
[11:25] <stoned> jhutchins: rhetorical question :)
[11:25] <persen_> stoned, BT
[11:25] <johey> I hate the fact that it does not work and that I don't know how to find out why. The name is a second problem.
[11:25] <jhutchins> stoned: Talk to apple.
[11:25] <persen_> you can refer to it as BT
[11:26] <jhutchins> persen_: People will confuse that with Bittorrent.
[11:26] <stoned> or Brutal Truth
[11:29] <persen_> jhutchins, mplayer also makes a local copy first
[11:30] <haffi> I guess I'll have to give up
[11:31] <Graham> How would I find out the tempreture of my CPU?
[11:32] <persen_> !monitor
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <stoned> apt-get install lm-sensors
[11:32] <stoned> sudo sensors-detect
[11:32] <stoned> then it will tell you the kernel module drivers you need to load
[11:33] <stoned> you should take the output and paste it into /etc/modules
[11:33] <stoned> restart then, or instead, sudo modprobe ......
[11:33] <stoned> .... being the module names sensors-detect spat out
[11:33] <stoned> then use sensors to get your info or start lm-sensors x gui program or other stuff
[11:34] <confrey> hi again
[11:35] <confrey> when I run konqueror clicking on my home icon, konqeror start without left panel; how can I force it to start with left panel?
[11:35] <stoned> confrey: in konqueror
[11:35] <stoned> hit F9
[11:35] <stoned> it will show the side panel, then go to settings > save profile
[11:35] <stoned> save the profile
[11:36] <papick> hi
[11:36] <haffi> Just for those who have been helping me with the camera problem, it was because i didn't have read or write access to the camera. I could download the pictures as root.
[11:36] <papick> have a question
[11:36] <confrey> stoned: thanks
[11:36] <papick> i have 6 different workstations (hardware) that I would like to have kubuntu running. can I create one image 4 all and just clone it?
[11:37] <stoned> if they have the same hardware yes
[11:37] <stoned> but you will have to modify their network configs manually
[11:37] <papick> no, different hardware
[11:37] <stoned> then no
[11:37] <confrey> and then ; I haven't a shortcut icon to my home, neither in panel, and in desktop, how can I add it?
[11:37] <papick> i was thinking in something like knoppix does when booting
[11:37] <stoned> since config files and kernel modules will be different
[11:38] <stoned> like a live cd image?
[11:38] <jhutchins> persen_: What transport are you using?  What kind of system is the remote share on?
[11:38] <stoned> or you want to ghost the hdd?
[11:38] <papick> yes, like that
[11:38] <jhutchins> persen_: 'cause mplayer plays streams just fine.
[11:38] <papick> i would like to ghost the hdd
[11:38] <papick> but have a something like a live cd image
[11:38] <persen_> jhutchins, i browse using konqueror and use "open withj mplayer"
[11:38] <Graham> stoned: Sorted, thanks.
[11:38] <jhutchins> confrey: Right click the desktop, create a new shotcut to ~/
[11:38] <persen_> the share is on windows xp
[11:39] <Graham> stoned: Do you know of any good GUI applications I can use?
[11:39] <papick> so I would have the ultimate image which I could use everywhere
[11:39] <jhutchins> persen_: Those are applications, I'm asking abouty transport protocol and remote filesystem.
[11:39] <stoned> Graham: not really.  I'm a console kinda guy
[11:39] <stoned> or konsole rather
[11:39] <stoned> :)
[11:39] <persen_> transport protocol is SMB
[11:39] <IceLink> hey there
[11:39] <IceLink> can anyone tell me how to change the shown lines of konsole?
[11:39] <papick> so I will probably have to use knoppix - sniff
[11:39] <jhutchins> persen_: Remote system is what?
[11:39] <persen_> win xp
[11:40] <jhutchins> persen_: How are you sharing the files?  Are you using a guest account or a regular user?
[11:40] <stoned> !info ksensors
[11:40] <ubotu> ksensors: lm-sensors frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-13ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 296 kB, installed size 940 kB
[11:40] <persen_> guest account, open for all, no password
[11:40] <stoned> Graham: ksensors
[11:41] <stoned> enjoy
[11:41] <Graham> Thanks mate
[11:41] <jhutchins> Mine is an NT controlled domain, with a user account/password for the Linux machine, and the share mounted locally using smbfs (configured in fstab).
[11:42] <persen_> ok
[11:42] <jhutchins> persen_: fmask and dmask are 777.
[11:42] <persen_> this share is not mounted in fstab
[11:42] <jhutchins> persen_: Just browsed to it using konq?
[11:42] <persen_> yes
[11:42] <jhutchins> smb:/ ?
[11:42] <persen_> smb://smbname/folder/movie.av i
[11:43] <stoned> Graham: welcome
[11:43] <jhutchins> persen_: See if it works better if you mount it.  Create /mnt/xp; mount -t smbfs -o username=<name>,password=<passwd>,fmask=777,dmask=777
[11:43] <jhutchins> (iirc)
[11:44] <jhutchins> You'll need to use sudo to do that of course.
[11:45] <persen_> sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=guest,password=guest,fmask=777,dmask=777
[11:46] <persen_> anything wrong with that syntax?
[11:46] <autoscum> !burn
[11:46] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[11:46] <persen_> i get the help page
[11:48] <elite101> i think someone is trying to use my nickname
[11:49] <elite101> god i keep on having problems with my nickname
[11:52] <persen_> jhutchins, yay, that did it, even works in vlc. thanks!
[11:53] <persen_> Now, anyone know how i enable my usb soundcard instead of the one thats installed in my mobo?
[11:53] <persen_> its detected in lsusb
[11:53] <persen_> its a edirol ua-5
[11:54] <neusonce> ok im installing  updates for kubuntu,  but i wonder why it wouldent let me log on as su in terminal
[11:56] <stoned> because root password is probably not set
[11:56] <jhutchins> persen_: Try blacklisting the driver for the mobo unit or disabling it in the BIOS.
[11:56] <stoned> try sudo su passwd
[11:57] <jhutchins> stoned: It would be better to try to work within the ubuntu security plan and not set the root password.
[11:57] <jahshan> in kubuntu, don't su, use sudo su
[11:57] <jahshan> and enter YOUR password
[11:57] <persen_> i wish i could select what device i want audio out on, that is the default in windows.
[11:57] <jhutchins> 1) don't use su, use su -, 2) sudo -i is more in keeping with the ubuntu design.
[11:58] <stoned> He asked why, I told him why, and how to do it.  If he wants to, he can.
[11:59] <stoned> I mean.. you can drive a car with one foot and use the other foot to steer it, but it doesn't make it a good idea, does it?
[11:59] <jhutchins> stoned: Don't be so defensive.
[12:00] <stoned> jhutchins: what?
[12:02] <stoned> anyway... neusonce that is why you can't login as root or use su, because the root password isn't set.  If you set the root password, and someone else guesses it, they have admin rights to your system.  If you don't set a root password, that won't happen, unless someone guess your password.
[12:02] <TheGodfather> well you can set it =)
[12:02] <stoned> with which they can use sudo
[12:03] <stoned> so the security BS aside, do what you want to do, but you've been told what is better to do
[12:03] <vprints> Hey, can anybody recommend some live cd with hardware health testing tools ?
[12:03] <stoned> yes
[12:03] <stoned> hiren's
[12:03] <stoned> hiren.info
[12:03] <persen_> jhutchins, i've blacklisted my emu10k1 module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, do i have to restart some daemon to make it effective?
[12:03] <stoned> ultimate boot cd as well
[12:03] <jhutchins> vprints: SystemRescueCD
[12:04] <stoned> google for that
[12:04] <jhutchins> persen_: That might do it, but you might actually need to reboot in order to run the hardware detection for your other card.
[12:04] <TheGodfather> Anyone know how to set up a Proxy for IRC, in Koncoversation? I've been having a little trouble
[12:06] <swimmerino88_> hi to evrebody!i have a little problem with my usb disk...I can only see a diectory locked,after the creation of the partition with qparte...how can i copy thingd to the disk?i think i have to chenge the privileges...how????
[12:06] <vprints> thanks, stoned
[12:06] <neusonce> in adept  can i install java, flash , tor packages ? if i can how so
[12:07] <vprints> thanks, jhutchins, but i need a cd to locate hardware problems :)
[12:07] <neusonce> and will gnome apps still work well in a KDE space?
[12:08] <jhutchins> vprints: system rescue cd has a lot of hardware test tools on it.
[12:08] <stoned> !info dircproxy
[12:08] <ubotu> dircproxy: IRC proxy for people who use IRC from different workstations. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.5-5 (feisty), package size 118 kB, installed size 264 kB
[12:08] <jhutchins> !install | neusonce
[12:08] <ubotu> neusonce: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[12:08] <jhutchins> neusonce: Bother, that's not it.
[12:08] <neusonce> ..... i hate ubotu
[12:08] <jhutchins> !packages | neusonce
[12:08] <ubotu> neusonce: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[12:08] <neusonce> !ubotu
[12:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:09] <vprints> jhutchins, they werent on the list on the webpage :)
[12:10] <TheGodfather> I can set up a proxy in mirc, using wine, but it would be nice not to have to use wine
[12:10] <jhutchins> vprints: K.
[12:10] <stoned> dircproxy
[12:10] <jhutchins> vprints: Sorry, it's still useful.
[12:10] <stoned> TheGodfather: use it
[12:10] <stoned> TheGodfather: or setup psybnc or something
[12:10] <TheGodfather> thanks
[12:10] <stoned> you'll have to compile it from source more than likely
[12:11] <stoned> ubuntu package might not exist for psybnc
[12:11] <TheGodfather> oh well thats nto a big deal
[12:11] <stoned> or you can also setup a proxy in irssi
[12:11] <stoned> in fact you should try irssi, its amazing
[12:11] <TheGodfather> i have it
[12:11] <neusonce> !samba
[12:11] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:12] <neusonce> what is samba
[12:12] <TheGodfather> !samba
[12:12] <TheGodfather> !info samba
[12:12] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 3262 kB, installed size 7992 kB
[12:13] <neusonce> how can i access knaptic ?